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Ryanc2002

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sisalou - Well don't I feel special. LOL. Actually, I'm kind of pissed off (see my members folder). What'd I miss while I was out today, anything?

Max

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just got into the feeds in time to hear Jason say something about a typical woman and Amy yelled "You don't even know what typical woman is!" Everyone cracked up and she seemed a little embarrassed that she said it. Jason just laughed, looked a little embarrassed himself. Amy apologized, but everyone said that was the comment of the day.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks, cute. at least i know i didn't make it up! i don't know why someone would talk like that, either. chiara is probably someone who should count to ten before she says some things to see if she should really say it or leave it unspoken.

Wcv63

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason handled himself very well IMO. He didn't make a scene but I believe he made the others embarrassed that they had gone over the line with him. Everyone in that house is in agreement that Jason is very nice guy. A good guy. A sweet guy. That fact in and of itself may make them fear him in the context of the game because someone like him would be very difficult to beat in the finals.

Jason has a lot more patience, tolerance and RESPECT for his housemates than I would be able to muster in his same situation. He also is still playing the game, strategizing and aligning but without making any enemies.

That to me is the consummate game player. I hope he is able to continue in this same vein till the very end.

P.S. Last night Roddy and Chiara were laying (lying..I always get those two mixed up) in bed in the HOH room and were talking about Jason. Roddy told Chiara that Jason really likes her and there is a fine line between a crush and Jason being put into a situation where his heart will be broken. He told Chiara he is worried about Jason because he doesn't want him hurt. This conversation happened as they were falling asleep and didn't have a "strategizing" tone to it. Hmmmmm...

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol I agree tabbyking...I think thats why I do actually like Chiara because I have been accused of verbal diarrhea myself in my younger days...although I don't think i've ever said anything as discusting as what chiara was saying last night!
I guess 'cause of my own experiences that may be why I excuse her language more than others do.
It's too bad she isn't on this side of things and hears how she really sounds, I bet it would be an eye opener for her to know what impression she is really giving people.

Kady

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother, I love your post.

Lilacs04

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've never liked Chiara but she is REALLY starting to irritate me beyond words. While I do feel sorry that she has such an obvious lack of self-respect, she HAS to know better than to tease Jason so much. I really wish he'd take a stand and tell her off. Also, what's with the TV editing? Why haven't we seen more of the "real" Kiki? Arnold (or Arnold's flunkies), if you're reading this, expose what Chiara is doing!! She's worse than Shannon and Jordan put together!

C1mag

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So does he really like Chiara? Absolutely NOT! Remember, before he entered into the house he realized that there would be multiple personality types. He isn't their to change someones approach in life. He's not going to rock the boat. He knows that if he stands in good graces with the girls for now then he stands a longer chance in the house before he is next in pecking order. Is Chiara Roddys type? Absolutely NOT! All that childish vulgar talk just shows her insecurity. He'd never date this type of woman. The man would go after a WOMAN not a child. At his stage of the game, and again its a game, you use ANYTHING to your advantage. I've heard Roddys comments about Chiara behind her back. He thinks shes a mess. Yet he still gives to her what he knows she needs in order to stay in good graces. He will deal with "The feelings" issues after the show, but don't think for one second they will be an item outside of the show. He already knows this as well. Look at what he really thinks of Josh, Gerry, and even Amy, but yet he hugs them and engages them in meaningless conversation. Why can't Jason be playing the same mind game? The only thing that "Values" do in regard to Jason, is they help him to hold his tongue is saying out loud his true feelings as he might think this would be judging someone. Think about this... After everything that Chiara has said, could you see him even taking her to meet his parents? Hell No! She's just too vulgar.

Wcv63

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I stayed up late and listened to several conversations that showed all of the hgs in a much better light than I had previously seen them. I kind of like them all now in varying degrees. I don't have that intense dislike that I had before for some of the players. It was enlightening.

Maryann

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
as for the 'sorry' and 'we were just joking' thing. i agree wholeheartedly. i'm a middle school teacher as well and i hear that many times a day. i always say, 'well, that's a nice start. what are you going to do to make it better?' and most times i have them report back to me about it. <--
Snee
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Why didn't "I" have a teacher like you!!??
Thanks for trying to civilize the next generation, Snee, folks need to realize that the
kids you're working with will be the ones who decide on my Social Security benefits. I want them to be NICE!
I don't approve of the way Chiara is acting but she's embarassing herself, not Jason

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Afternoon everyone!
(Touchy topic and very proud it hasn't turned into a flame thread!
Sorry this is soooo long!)

Wow what a great thread! You guys really have made some very interesting observations and comments. To many to mention by name!
Also Thanks for thinking of me and taking my post about the whole situation so well!

I was thinking about all this today, and talking to my sis-in-law and my neice (12yr old) asked me why would they pick on Jason so bad?

Without going into all the gory details of the topic...(she is very mature for her age!)
I told her as a Christian, we all have to be careful of how we are preceived by things we do.
Just as we judge the character of a person for things they say and do.

As a Christian I share my beliefs with others but don't push my religon on them.
When that person is open and accepting, they will seek their own answers.

Jason is trying to stand up for his own personal beliefs. To keep pushing their beliefs on him or their words at him without listening to him say stop or showing he is uncomfortable, would be just like him going around preaching to them all!

In THIS GAME he is caught between showing his real feelings or suck-up-and-deal with theirs.
If he gets mad and lashes out he will be kicked out.
Not only that, but he is also being judged on his actions and words by each of us that are watching him.

If he did something that changed how he is acting or if he went to the "dark side" he would affect the opinion of many veiwers and the HG preception of him.

I believe they, especially Chi is trying to provoke him so he'll do something to give her an out for getting him out. Maybe they all are.
He's too squeeky clean. They need to tarnish his image, then they won't feel bad kicking him out.

If this is all an act, then GREAT! So far he's representing a good fellow Christian and I'm proud of him.
(acting out this way saying his a virgin- so he won't have to sleep with or hook up with anyone. He knows this could be a disaster. Look at Roddy.
ACting like a Christian - he will be preceived as honest and true. Less threatening and more reliable than the others, so ppl will trust him)

All that said, which is way too much, Chi could use being around someone who is more spiritual or at least more refined. I hope she can see some good out of this in the end, and learn something.

If Chi is or is not a Christian, ( I do not know her heart) then hopefully she will look deeper into her own heart and find the answers she needs to grow into the beautiful young woman she is.

One last thing...If Jason knew this show would be this graphic this year I wonder if he would have gone?
You sure can't judge this year from the last two, if he was going based on those!
I pray for him to be strong and be very proud of who he is and what he believes.
He has touched many lives by his actions and I hope that he will not waver from them.

Sorry to "preach", and to those of you who do not have a spiritual preference, I do appologize for voicing my opinions. You have every right to voice your opinions also and I will not judge you by them. I am not trying to push my beliefs on you, just posting my thoughts.

Thanks again for the great thread and the understanding you have given each other in your posts. I'm glad we are not turning this into a bash religon or bash no religion forum.

Sincerely,
FLy

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmm I don't know c1mag. You do seem to feel strongly about your opinion but I really do believe that Jason is just a guy that tries to see the good in everyone. I honestly think he likes everyone in the house but just doesn't like some of their behavior. I'm not as forgiving as he is but I kinda feel the same way. Looking for the good things and trying to see past the bad things that might be due to the situation they are in rather than their actual personalities.

I do think that if he is upset about how people are behaving he should try to be more verbal that it's bothering him. Doesn't need to yell but if he was stern with them the first time, that is so out of character for him, they may have gotten the point quicker.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Cute that Jason is the type that does try to find the good in all, but in that house you don't have the choice to walk away from them if needed so you have to hold your chin up or face the possability of elimination. Finding the good in all does not mean you would associate yourself with an individual that offends you. Ann Frank(sp) sadly concluded in her diary... "In spite of it all, I still believe there is good in every man" or something very similar. What she was suggesting is that in order to survive you have to believe there is good in everyone. I know it's an extreme example but it does apply with Jason to a lesser degree. He'd find good in you, but if you were just too vulgar he'd prefer to surround himself with different individuals. You have no choice in this current setting so you play the game and count the days til you can get out and detox from all the filth.

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think my biggest concern this year is that they seem so shallow. They either talk strategy or sex. There is so much going on in the world I guess being one who perfers to hear intelligent conversations between people from such a vast demography I'm sad. We know there are educated people in that house and people who have come from many different walks of life. Is it too much to ask that they share some of themselves with each other? We all hear "You don't know what it's like to be black, gay, an unwed mother,a single woman,yada,yada,yada" so share those things and enlighten each other. It doesn't have to be your damn life story, but if anyone expects others to be educated about their race or religion or lifestyle then who better to educate them than those who live it. Why can't they talk about the stock market, oil prices the plight of the farmworks, fixing the public school system, the criminal justice system or just anything but sex? (need to settle down and go to dinner with friends and talk about world peace.)

Costacat

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you 100% Earthmother! There is no "exposing" themselves (and quite obviously, I don't mean physically!). All they ever talk about is the same thing over and over again. I'd be in there trying to learn all about what it's like to be a southern belle, how Marcellas got into modeling and bein' a stylist, why Josh has a chip on his shoulder (presumed) about being Jewish, why Lisa got that big nasty tat on her backside, what Roddy wrote and was it published, what Jason's Christianity means to him. I mean *real* stuff.