Lisa & the Good People
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Bigbrotherbelle | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:13 am     Josh has apologized for the way he treated Gerry. Of course his sincereity is doubtful, but has anyone else apologized? NO. I have seen Lisa bash Tonya, Amy, Gerry, Josh, and Chiara. She is not the good girl she is trying to get people to think she is. |
Angelbleu | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:16 am     I think that Lisa and Eric were so sure that Gerry was going to do their dirty work and put Josh up that they are in a state of shock to find themselves in that seat instead and just don't know how to handle it. |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:22 am     OMG of course he apologized does THE POWER OF VETO ring a bell. He is no more sorry than any of those who participated (not telling him to stop is still participating)...and what about all the compliments he's getting, isn't that the same thing? We all knew this was going to happen and you can bet Gerry is sitting back laughing. Transparency rears it's ugly head...Do you really think any of this is redeeming? hahahahaha |
Bigbrotherbelle | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:26 am     Like I said his sincerity is doubtful, Gerry sees that too, but at least he isn't sitting there saying so and so talks bad about you and so and so is "bad" pretending like he is the queen of all that is "good" in the world. THAT was my point. |
Catfat | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:28 am     I think Lisa's definition of "good people" is those who are young(ish), beautiful, sexually active, hip, barely dressed, plastically enhanced, bodies shaven and sculpted, and they think they are better than the rest of us. And they only want to be with each other. |
Hohoho | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:35 am     Uh huh Catfat, agree with your interpretation of Lisa's definition of "good people." That's why I despise all four of them... because, surprise surprise, when they get to be Gerry's age, I doubt they'll be as beautiful, sexually active, hip, barely dressed, etc. As a 40-something myself who used to be a REAL hippie and looked pretty damn gorgeous in the 60s, I can tell her she's in for a rude awakening when she's Gerry's age! |
Catfat | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:45 am     Exactly, Hohoho. I was a hippy, too, dreaming my way to a better society. And now everywhere all we see are these quality-wannabees like the four in the household. Ugh. I despise them and all their fetid values. Oo-oo-ooh. I got carried away. I think Gerry is quietly planning a major retaliation for the way he has been ostracized. At least I hope he is. GO GERRY!!!! |
Dedonjo | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:47 am     "Lisa admitted that she wanted the bad people to go so they could have a "Cool Hippie Household."" I guess it hasn't occurred to her that Gerry was quite likely a REAL hippie! Hoho, my thoughts exactly! Aaahh, to be young and clueless!! |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:51 am     somehow sagging pecs and boobies changes your perspective. Gerry's belly + Eric's chest = 30years (too bad Eric is so bad at math, maybe he would have allied with Gerry instead of King Roddy) |
Battlestar | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 11:57 am     it would have been interesting to see the four of them at the end--just to see then at each others throats.....but it ain't gonna be so...and Eric is the Fall Guy. Roddy was brilliant making the deals he did, and it is time for one of the pack leaders to go and with Roddy's deal--it is the Beta Male instead of the Alpha Male |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:02 pm     This happens every year, doesn't it? There is always a division in the house of the 'good people" versus the "bad people". I wish that just once, they would ALL realize that this is a GAME....it's not a morality play and it's not real life....it is a game of strategy. If they MUST divide the group between "good" and "bad", then they should be looking at who are the GOOD PLAYERS and who are the BAD PlAYERS. So what if some jerk calls you a Nazi in that house? Big deal! YOU know he's full of it, the rest of the HGs know he's full of it, and the VIEWERS know he's full of it. If Gerry lets Josh's remarks psyche him out (which is exactly waht Josh wants....to mess with Gerry's head) then Gerry is blowing it. We all also know that Josh's remarks are making him more and more disliked. It is the smart thing for Gerry to go after two seemingly popular players that are much stronger players than Josh....while he has the chance. The object of the game is to weed out the GOOD PLAYERS, not the BAD PEOPLE. Once the bad players (the ones that currently think they are the "good people") realize that, they might stand a chance at winning something. Look at Jason....he is both a good person and a good player. He deserves respect on all counts. JMO |
Inkydinkyspider | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:05 pm     Gerry didn't obtain 2 master degrees because he was stupid...he is very smart and understands very well how these people operate. Let's not forget he has dealt with thousands of people (parents, students, collegues etc) in his time and can read facial expressions as well as body language. These houseguests are really dim witted to think they are pulling anything over on him. Bet they wished they had been a little nicer to the old man. I don't ever remember being that self centered when I was there age. Now I might look like I ate two Lisa's for lunch but I'm still pretty and sexy in my husband's eyes! Middle age rocks! lol |
Abigail1970 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:06 pm     I think that everyone who has been nominated thus far have all had 'justifiable' reactions. If I was in that house and even though I would realize it was 'just a game' I would be offended when I got nominated. I think Eric and Lisa are behaving like anyone would. Now having said that, I can't believe that people don't realize that EVERYONE is talking about everyone in there even sweet little Jason. So, on that note, Lisa really has no right to go on and on about Josh when she does the EXACT same thing. She has dogged Gerry constantly since that first week. And Amy too. But I hope Eric wins veto save Lisa and they put up Chiara and she goes. Buh Bye! |
Bbadict | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:06 pm     Another old Hippie checking in here! Earthmother gave me a flashback too! LOL I looked pretty damn good in the sixties myself! Lisa has no idea what really being a hippie is. She is about as far from being one as you can get. I think we should all go to LA and have a sit-in in front of the BB house for old times sake. Smoke dope, sing, "All we are saying, is give peace a chance." Get dragged away by the cops. Ah! The memories! |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:17 pm     I'm sooooooooo confused...When I was their age bad meant you gave it away too freely so I was good. Now Lisa gives it away and she's good. I was told it's not what you say but how you act and that makes you good or bad. Then Josh says something and he's bad. Lisa tattles on Josh and she's good, and he's bad, but tattling is bad. Hippy was related to drugs and that was bad, but then they told me it makes you feel good. And after all that Sanfranjoshfan tells me it's how you play the game that makes you good or bad.. I'm gettin a migrane....lol |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:25 pm     Don't trust anyone over 30. The establishment is bad. Don't sell out to the man. Of course once you pass 30 it doesn't seem so old. Once you realize that you need a job to survive the establishment seems somewhat important to your continued livihood. The man....never really understood that one. Sounds like just another name someone over 30 caught up in the establishment. That said. It doesn't have a damn thing to do with this game. The game is about money, strategy and luck. I'm sure it sucks to be in the hot seat. I really don't have anything against either Lisa or Eric except that they are part of the alliance (or coalition) I have chosen to dislike. In order for my favorites to get ahead that alliance needs to be cracked. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:38 pm     Earthmother....I think they are ALL very good at being very bad. :-) |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:45 pm     LISA IS SO BAD! She is talking with Chiara about offering Gerry a deal....if Chia uses veto and Gerry puts up Josh....then they are prepared to "allow" Gerry to stay for three more weeks , otherwise, he's gone in one week. (How magnaminous). The truly hysterical part is that Lisa said if she makes it thru this week, and gets HOH, the she is defintiely putting Gerry up. Lisa, is that an example of being "GOOD people"? LOL Her denial and self righteiousness is so entertaining. |
Kappy | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:47 pm     And as Inky pointed out, Gerry's education and life experience is nothing to laugh at and that's something that the younger 'pretty' crew doesn't quite understand. I like Lisa and can easily see her doing promotions, commercials, etc., when she leaves. But is she playing the game? No. As for Gerry and Josh, IMO, Gerry has always reacted and behaved as a teacher when it comes to Josh ~ the troubled emotional kid who walks in the door with really heavy baggage and blames the first adult in the house old enough to be his parent. It's classical behavior and Gerry as a teacher knows how to deal with it and not let it effect how he plays the game. As for who's good and who I like and dislike, I really didn't care for Danille at all until this past week when I finally figured out what her strategy is and it's a very good one. But I still think Gerry has one up on her. I think the two of them could very well be in the final 3. And earthmother ~ yes, hippies would have loved Gerry! |
Abigail1970 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:49 pm     I laugh and laugh when these guys talk their 'crap' (and that is what it is) about so and so is so gone if he/she does this. Don't these people know that this game is a lot of luck. It all depends on who wins HoH. That's it. Lisa should zip it and not approach Gerry in that manner.A |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:50 pm     I think every one of them has the right to disregard a "promise" or lie in order to advance in the game. However, each and every action is going to be evaluated in the end game should they make it that far. Logically, trying to find a way to get herself off the block is sound. She also wants to save her bf. Also understandable. She needs however, to give Gerry something other than Josh to hang his hat on. Some other twist that will seem beneficial in the long run. Something like.....Roddy. |
Kappy | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:51 pm     SFJosh ~ The first reaction of most nominated folks are "How dare they! Well I'll get them NEXT week!" Without really considering the possibility that there may be NO next week! |
Earthmother | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:52 pm     So Chiara does or doesn't know that Gerry made a deal with Josh? I can't remember, but if she does and tells Gerry he doesn't have to honor that deal then she will be in essence telling him he doesn't have to honor the deal with Roddy either. Even though I think the deal made with Roddy was very vague..."You owe me one right?" "Yeh, I owe you one." He kept that promise by not putting him up, and maybe Gerry will just figure he did his part. |
Abigail1970 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 12:54 pm     I think if they approach him in the manner they plan on, he will say no way. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 01:15 pm     "SFJosh ~ The first reaction of most nominated folks are "How dare they! Well I'll get them NEXT week!" Without really considering the possibility that there may be NO next week!" SO true....and to take it a step further....what about LAST week? If they are so powerful, then why the heck are they up for nomination? Why did they "let" Gerry stay this long? LOL These guys are hilarious....they live in the future, promising and threatening things they have no power over. AND they think about what they should've done the previous weeks....but they have absoluetly no clue as to what they should be doing RIGHT NOW. Right now the "good people" are being very "bad players". |
Azriel | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:18 pm     Earthmother, the deal was really more than the 'you owe me one' that they showed on TV. They actually had a conversation and Roddy said,'If I don't put you up for nomination this week, then if you get HOH next week you promise not to put me up?' Gerry agreed to that deal. The you owe me one was just a further confirmation of the deal they made. How Gerry actually interprets that deal is another thing, though. We don't know if that includes the veto nom in Gerry's mind because nothing was said between Gerry and Roddy about that possibility turning up. |
Ginger | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:30 pm     I think Gerry will interpret the deal to be that he will not nominate either Josh nor Roddy this round...including if a veto is used. But who knows! And one thing, about all this talk about hippies and the 60s, I don't mean to be too mathematical here, but a poster above (I forgot who) wrote: "As a 40-something myself who used to be a REAL hippie and looked pretty damn gorgeous in the 60s." But I'm confused. The last year of the 60s was 33 years ago. The oldest you can be and still be a 40-something is 49, so you were in your teens at most in the 60s. These HGs are well into their twenties. Do you mean the 70s by chance? |
Wcv63 | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:36 pm     I was gorgeous in the 60's myself. A gorgeous child. If I do say so myself. At least once I got some hair. But the only thing remotely "hippy" about me back then was where I was carried.  |
Hohoho | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:49 pm     Ginger asked: "And one thing, about all this talk about hippies and the 60s, I don't mean to be too mathematical here, but a poster above (I forgot who) wrote: "As a 40-something myself who used to be a REAL hippie and looked pretty damn gorgeous in the 60s." But I'm confused. The last year of the 60s was 33 years ago. The oldest you can be and still be a 40-something is 49, so you were in your teens at most in the 60s. These HGs are well into their twenties. Do you mean the 70s by chance? " I consider myself a child of the 60s... 49 years old now, and yes, I was a teen in the 60s. That was the heyday of "hippiedom." I went to Woodstock, protested the Vietnam War in D.C., campaigned for both McCarthy and McGovern for President, experimented with some illegal smoking matter, dabbled with the concept of free love, all that good hippie stuff. But yeah, you're right, the HGs are in their 20s. When I turned 20, it was the 70s. Ouch, this math is making my head hurt!!! LOL I guess my point was/is: Lisa may THINK they are "hippies" but that makes me laugh. She seems so clueless about anything outside her own beautiful body and those of her buds, I doubt she's even registered to vote. |
Azriel | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 06:55 pm     Hohoho, as I hear the air whistle between Lisa's ears, I HOPE she ISN'T registered to vote!
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Ginger | Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 07:16 pm     Thanks for the clarification Hohoho! And I do know what you mean about laughing when Lisa uses the term "hippy." I am 33. I grew up in true hippy fashion without electricity, running water, a telephone, or other such luxuries. I thought I'd commit suicide if my mother would not shave under her arms. She wouldn't. I didn't. So I too laughed when Lisa talked of hippies in the house. I was like, HIPPIES? This from the woman who went on at length about how gross it is to have an inch of flesh to pinch or hair growing anywhere but on the top of one's head? Lisa and the rest of her pals are as much a hippies as you were an old lady in the 60s...NOT! |
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