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Wcv63

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just an observation, but I notice that Verdana addresses all his/her posts this way even if they are not directed at anyone in particular. Even the first post in a thread was addressed to "honey". It may very well be a writing affectation. His/her profile states that he/she is from Atlanta and this may very well be a conversational form of writing.

Additionally, Verdana seems to be involved in politics as that is mentioned in his/her profile as well. Could be why he/she is more passionate about this subject than the average Joe.

I don't wish to offend or butt in where I don't belong but thought I'd add my own observations to the mix. I apologize if I was presumptuous.

Wcv63

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is trying to participate in conversations with the knowledge he has available to him. This is definitely a viable form of communication. This is how one learns and grows. A back and forth exchange of ideas, facts, observations, perceptions is the backbone of discussion. He certainly doesn't seem closeminded nor does he sound like he wouldn't be open to different points of view.

Cajunrambler

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Auntie,

I guess even us Christians have a little devil in us. It's called "self". Mine comes out every now and then. More now than then lately.

Damfino

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is a self-avowed "reality addict" and is very savvy to the game - even more so than Roddy and Danielle. I also believe he is a genuinely nice guy and will try to play the game in a way that won't compromise his ethics. This will get harder and harder the longer he lasts. I wouldn't be surprised if he intentionally throws every HOH competition in order to not have to betray someone.

He can go to the end and the only manifestation of the "dark side" would be casting a deciding vote when it's down to 4.

Verdana

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Damfino: I don't hate Jason. Hate is an awfully strong word to use. That's the type of word Rush Limbaugh would use. I never said I hated Jason. Again they are your words, not mine. I wish people would READ what I write rather than try to put words in my mouth. I keep in mind that this show is ONLY a game and I don't hate people because of the way they choose to play a game. Hatred of Jason? Why? Please...


Also a message for Wcv63:

Honey your observation is right-on! "Go on, Keep preachin' baby!" (Just playing with you honey). I guess I just got someone bowels in an uproar by just saying that. Well Good Lord in Heaven. I guess I'm just not sterile enough. Oh well. I haven't said anything on this board in the way that some people took my comments. I was just expressing my views just like the rest of you.

The way I talk is the way I write. No one has complained about my style or writing up until now by labeling it "condescending, demeaning, degrading, knee-jerk, or gut-level reaction." Did I leave out any of the code words, honey?

People tell me in emails that they like my "down home" (that's what they call it) down-to-earth style. They find it very endearing. It's just the way I am precious.

You are right; I am very passionate about politics. I'm here to tell you that political matters run our lives and I'm sorry to say that at the current time the average Joe seems to be in a coma when it comes to politics, honey. I spend a lot of time thinking about what I write about and I mainly write about religion and politics.

As for Verdana, I'll just watch the feeds and post A LOT less so I don't ruffle anyone else's feathers or pure ears on here. Y'all know how some of us people from Atlanta are.

Well you take it easy baby.

Crossfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like this is going to work out for us all.

Peachie

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL I love Jason, not a very talkative guy. he is a reality tv junkie, he watched the feeds of BB2 last year so I am thinking he knows how to play the game. Of course I dont know watching it would make you know how to play the game. I am hoping he does cause I would love to see him win, none of them this year I am too crazy about, I am starting to like Amy and Marc but more so when they are together. I learned along time ago not to talk religion or politics cause my sister goes on and on and never shuts up so I will stay out of those conversations on here cause it brings back horrible memories. LOL

Wcv63

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Peachie I also avoid (for the most part) debates about religion and politics. My views are not likely to be changed by arguing nor am I likely to change anyone else's. I do enjoy reading articles about these subjects but seldom join in either agreeing or disagreeing publicly.

As for Jason, I think he's a good guy playing a complicated psychological game. So far his read of the situation is to hang back and not make waves. At some point he is either going to amend his strategy or fall to the wayside. IMO

Mschumacher

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Reading these threads I couldn't help but post some thoughts that came to mind,

I did not come to the conclusion that Verdana had any hatred for Jason. Frankly, I get more of a gamesmanship feel from Verdana than anything else. Jason's statements are just part of the game. I think it may have been Jason's plan in the house to use the God card so as not to pick up additional baggage during the game by having others in the house show an interest in him, other than platonically speaking.

Some individuals on this board have a problem with the words honey and babe used by one of the posters. That seems very odd to me considering the type of show this is.

With all the colorful, provocative language used by most of the HGs, honey and babe seem mild-to-tame to me, but yet I read no one complaining about the language used by the HGs in this thread. I sense that someone's political and religious views were really the crux of the issue at hand and not the language they used.

Last night (07-23-02) there was colorful language used repeatedly in the house during the argument. It sure brought excitement to us viewers. We immediately became glued to the screen and now it looks like we're having a little excitement here on the board. I'm for keeping it friendly, and for keeping the discussion going. I'm for Verdana posting as often as she wants and I'm a Republican!

P.S. Verdana, I enjoyed reading your articles.

Twiggyish

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh my heck!! I think Jason is playing a good game. He's keeping quiet. I suspect we'll see more of him, as the game progresses.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When is Jason going to show his dark side.....?

Damfino said: "Oh my goodness... he doesn't care for San Francisco... "

If that's true, HE ALREADY DID! :-)

SANFRANjoshfan (that's still BB1 Josh....don't forget!)

Damfino

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 06:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really didn't mean to get this thread into a religio-political quagmire. And I do owe Verbena an apology - she never said she hated Jason. It's just that phrases (code words?) like "right-wing bile" get my dander up... as "Phyllis Schlafly" gets hers.

I think we both tend towards colorful hyperbole. We're both passionate, committed people who care deeply about issues and don't happen to agree. But we both watch BB3 and enjoy this forum, and I hope we can be on a friendly footing from now on.

Wcv63

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm all for different personality types, different perspectives and different levels of passion to coexist peacefully in this forum and on this thread. I enjoy the interaction and have been known to be involved in, and the cause of, moderation a time or two.

That said, I still like Jason and think he's wonderful. :)

Auntie

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it true Jason voted to save Josh? Is that a sign of his "dark side"? Is that Jason snapping?

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's Jason trying not to hedge his bets on alliances.

Archie

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All of the men except Gerry voted to keep Josh.

Auntie

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63, what exactly does 'hedge a bet' mean? Is Jason placing his bet on the male alliance (Roddy, Eric, Josh) as more favorable to him in the long run? I see the men seeing him as an easy nominee and as an easy out especially when the women are vulnerable (only 4 of them now). Yet, it's the women who are far more pleased with his demeanor and more likely to keep him around longer. The Chiara/Lisa/Tonya coalition would have probably not even have nominated him until Josh/Gerry/Marcellas were gone. Oh yes, to keep on topic, does 'hedging a bet' have anything to do with a dark side? Isn't that ... gambling?

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Auntie!! This whole game is one big gamble! What I meant by "hedging his bets" is that Josh is voting on the Roddy/Eric side BECAUSE he knows that the women are more likely to keep him around longer simply based on his attitude. Vote with the guys gain their trust. Be sweet the girls, gain their trust in an entirely different way.

That's the way I see it. Of course, he could be just a freewheelin' independent spirit who is coasting by while voting his conscience. He may get tripped up along the way but I sure hope not.

Niceguy

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's the deal on how I see this. I see him continue to ride Roddy and Dani's coattails but at some point they are going to try to shake him loose. He's human like the rest of us. He's going to pull some duplicitous moves. Chiara is probably going to be the catalyst.

Auntie

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63--thanks, your explanation was great! The women are a sure thing for Jason, the men are not; so Jason strengthened his tie to the men by voting Tonya out, but didn't weaken his tie with the women--at least at the moment.

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's my thinking Auntie.

Plus Jason has been telling Chiara he's got a crush on her. Smart boy knows the way to that woman's heart is through her vanity. Meow! Boy did that sound catty!

Or I suppose he really could have a crush on her thus revealing his dark side. :)

Auntie

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So, if Jason has a crush on the dark side (Chiapet), then Jason has finally shown his dark side? Or, could this be a revelation of his truly shining bright side? Ya know, that whole 'opposites attract' thingie?

Flyonthwall

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP


FLy buzzez in, wing in a sling and head banging....

It's okay you guys! I'm fine! Jason did smash me and throw me in the trash, but I got a napkin and fixed my broken wing!

I know he was just trying to get rid of the FLy buzzin around their food and all but gezzz he didn't have to be so ruff!

Anyway...I forgive you Jason. It's those demons taking over, you didn't know I was there to help you!

Love you still sweetie!

FLyonthwall....going to lay on the cam for a while and stay out of the way!

Auntie

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SIGNS OF THE DARK SIDE (from this morning 7/26):
(1) Possible attempted murder of the innocent (that fly): "Also some strange buzzing noise in the background." Just what was Jason doing?
(2) Probable vanity: "Lisa asks if Jason shaves his chest, he says he does." Oh woe is me, vanity vanity, all is vanity. He shaves his chest!
(3) Possible sloth & bad taste: "Danielle says Jason will be so ready when he gets married. Lisa says it will be all cute and romantic, and jokes that she wants Jason to videotape it so she can watch. They all joke about rosepetals, candles, etc." And he's standing there with a big grin on his face...?
(4) Definite dishonesty & pride: "Lisa aks if jason’s looking to marry a virgin or not, he says it doesn’t really matter." Virginity doesn't matter to Jason? what a dissembler! Oh right, only Jason's virginity counts, not anyone else's.
(5) Definite gluttony: "Danielle jokes she knows everything about Jason, so just come to her with questions. So Jason quizzes her on what his favorite mcdonald’s food is. Jason’s favorite mcdonald’s meal is a double quarter pounder." Oh the shame, a double quarter pounder! Oh, never mind, he's just a growing boy.

Wcv63

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I must disagree with you on number 4 Auntie. Jason was asked if he required his future wife to be a virgin also. His response; "No, I might be missing out on an incredible woman." No dishonesty there. And I look at it as Jason doesn't push his own personal standards onto others. Pretty durn tolerant if you ask me!