Archive through July 30, 2002
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Archive through July 30, 2002
Mrdisguise | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:55 am     If I was a religious, decent, polite person like Jason, I would not be attracted to Chiara. I would be appalled by her language and her personality. I would be attracted to a woman with class and manners. So I doubt very much that Jason is infatuated with Chiara. He is just pretending to like everyone. No doubt that he is disgusted by almost everyone in the house. |
Twiggyish | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:57 am     Guilty, no need to duck, that's a good assessment. I also think he may have a crush on Chiara (Lori's post). Although, we can't know that for sure. Time will tell. |
Guiltyviewer | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:10 am     Thanks for the support, Twig! I'm operating on very little sleep today (again! gotta stop reading the live feeds at bedtime....can't pull myself away once the hamsters get going in the wee hours...LOL!). Wasn't sure if my thinking was as sound as I thought it was, best way to find out is posting in a thread---you'll find out soon enough if your ideas are sane or not . I agree that Jason may have some kind of crush on Chiara, or at least a mild interest in this 'witchy woman' ...if he does, I'm sure it would only last if he could persuade her to make different choices than she has so far. "You've got to change your e-vil ways, Ba-by, before I stop lov-in' you!" (OOPS! I know we're not supposed to be SINGING! Shame on me...now I'll probably get punished with a spider bite on my tooshy!) think it's time for a nap for me.... |
Missy2 | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:16 am     I think outside of the house Chiara would not be his type. I think he just has fun with her and she with him. I also think Chi is completely uninterested in him and obsessed with Roddymeister. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:18 am     Maybe he just has been taught to not judge people, but to try and help them see that they are better than that. He gets very annoyed when she calls herself a wh***, because I think he believes that she is not bad but just misguided. Having tasteless manners is not indicitive of evil. She is not my favorite hg by any means but I'm sure she has some redeeming qualities that he finds attractive in her. We have not been there every waking moment with these people (FOTH. I think he just needs to have a heart to heart with her and let her know that although he really likes her that he is offended by some of the things she says. Of course I think he tried to do that last night when she left with her feeling wounded because she won't LISTEN!!!! |
Spunky | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:30 am     I bet you on tv it would come out as a "gentle teasing" with Jason's shy smile and Chiara as an innocuous temptress... How editing changes the story!!! |
Alaginger | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:26 am     I still think Jason is acting and just playing the game. Of course, I don't have the livefeed and don't get to see everything. Has he actually said in any of the Diary Room sessions that he has a crush of Chiara (or words to that nature)? My memory is not what it used to be, so if he did, I've forgotten it. |
Groucho | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:29 am     You do have to wonder how this will be show on TV, if at all. Given that Chiara has done this sort of thing repeatedly, it's almost dishonest not to show it in some form on TV. On the other hand, if it's as bad as folks are saying (I didn't see it), it sounds like it would come across very bad for Chiara on TV. I wonder if the producers are willing (or maybe eager) to do that to her. It's also funny to me because Roddy is always so concerned about how he is going to come across on TV, and he's told Chiara she needs to be careful about this too. Clearly she's not paying attention to him on this. I wonder what Roddy will think when he sees the tapes (if they do show it). |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:41 am     Groucho I think you're right. Roddy seems to want to have a good image and as I said before many times you are judged by the company you keep. That is not always fair and I don't always agree with it, but we are all still human and still living in a country that censors (more so than many other countries) many aspects of the media for the purpose of wholesomness. It is quite apparent on these boards that Jason's demenor is much easier tolerated than Chiara's or Marc's. |
Hunter | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:01 am     Jason is a virgin....Chiara is not. Jason has moral values....Chiara does not. Jason, for the most part, is respected by the majority of people in and out of the house. I wonder why she feels the need to demean his religious beliefs and try to humiliate him publicly ??? I think I've heard this story before. |
Grannygrunt | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:04 am     And Jason (bless his heart) goes to bed every night and says "Father forgive them, for they know not, what they do". I agree, I think Jason is trying his dead level best to help someone get on the right track and straighten out their life. Chiara is certainly one who needs to straighten out her life. And maybe Jason is just the one to help her. It's all about being in the right place at the right time. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:10 am     Well he better start praying a little harder, because it appears to me he has many years and layers of crust to get through. I do so want to give these people the benefit of the doubt (locked in a house, bored, etc.) but I'm feared that as time goes on they are what we see. |
Ryanc2002 | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:17 am     I think it's a little harsh to assume that someone you've never met has no moral values. |
Bidasea | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:19 am     I agree Ryan..They may have their own set of values/morals..Just different than Jasons. |
Bernie | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:22 am     You're right in one sense, Ryan, but a person's behaviour is always the benchmark for judging his or her values. It's all we've got in life, in dealing with our fellows, until we all develop ESP, that is! |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:26 am     Who said she had no moral values? |
Ophiliasgrandma | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:32 am     Oh, I'm sure she has 'moral values'. It's just she has them set a wee bit too low for my taste. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:36 am     oops, just saw it. I don't agree with that I think she does but she's not showing much of them. Ryan, I don't know about your mom but I always told my kids "It's one thing to act the fool at home, but if you act that way in public you will see my wrath." This is called setting boundaries, there is a time and place for everything (you don't make out in church..HELLO!!!), COMMON SENSE... Maybe it's my southern upbringing but I was scared to death to embarrass my parents, it just wasn't done. I as well as my own kids were raised with manners and by God they better be on their best behavior when out because they were representing their parents. I can't tell you what I would do to that girl if she were mine, but they don't have enough soap in the state of California or peach tree switches in the state of Georgia to do the job. |
Foodbunny | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:47 am     Jason is a big boy. If he doesn't want to be in those kind of situations he can say so. If he wants to tolerate it for the sake of the game or if he does enjoy the attention even if it embarasses him, then good for him. I don't recall Josh asking permission to run around smacking people's butts but he does, and if the women don't like it they have to say "I don't like this, stop it". Jason being religious or being a virgin doesn't mean he can get away with not saying anything and still be a victim. The comments implying that Jason is better than the rest of the house because he is religious are hurtful for those of us who are definately NOT religious and would never harass or badger him. |
Muse | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:58 am     Again...Jason has said that those situations make him uncomfortable. He asks them to stop. They should respect him enough to do so. It's not fair to expect him to go off by himself simply because they can't tone down the sex talk a bit. It's not like he's being unreasonable...he doesn't insist that they not talk about sex at all. Plus being in the house is different than real life. Jason can't snap at people or tell them off without some potentially serious repercussions. He tries to be polite, both because that seems to be his nature, and because it makes sense for someone who wants to stay in the game. It shouldn't be too hard for Chiara (and the rest) to get the point. |
Oregonfire | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:03 pm     I definitely don't like what Chi Chi is doing, bugging Jason with the sex talk. It's the biggist thing that she does that I don't like. I can't believe how desperately she needs attention, which is really what it's about, IMO. I wish someone would tell her off in that house. I don't like that the HGs have to hide their feelings SO much that they have to put up with (what I think is) borderline sexual harrassment just to stay in the game. She's really been working my nerves the past few days. |
Snee | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:39 pm     i think it is sexual harassment, oregon. it's not the kind where someone's job is threatened, but it is unwelcome sexual advances ('i want to suck your ****.' what!?!) and 'creating an atmosphere'. at least it is where i live. (granted, i'm not a lawyer; what i know is from the 'harassment awareness course our entire school district staff took...from a couple of lawyers.) even so, i really doubt that anyone there is aware they're getting to that point or that jason is as uncomfortable as he seems. they have crossed a line they probably don't even realize is there. as for the 'sorry' and 'we were just joking' thing. i agree wholeheartedly. i'm a middle school teacher as well and i hear that many times a day. i always say, 'well, that's a nice start. what are you going to do to make it better?' and most times i have them report back to me about it. i'm disappointed with many in this group because they have, in my mind, gone beyond the boundaries of the game: name-calling ('nazi' and 'f'ing b'come to mind); perhaps leading someone on emotionally; the atmosphere of sexual harassment around jason. i love the game itself. i love the mindgames, the alliances, the scheming. i wish they would be nasty playing the game and not just be nasty. |
Sisalou | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:42 pm     Oregon - I don't know if it was posted in the live feeds or not but Chiara told some of them that the reason shes talks about sex all the time is to get attention. Hopefully when she leaves the house a friend or family member will give her some advice about this. Guilty viewer - I definitely agree with you about Jason and I feel he has shown alot of restraint and kindness in dealing with the other house guests. Fly - Thank you for the detailed post. You are great at this. P.S. I didn't see if but I know it must have bad if Ryan says something. I use Ryan as my "barometer" on the threads as to how things are going in the house! |
Tabbyking | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:44 pm     well, okay, i think i am losing it. i swore i read on the live feed posts last night that chi and some others were in the bathroom area and jason came in and said he had to pee and chiara asked if he wanted to pee in her mouth. now i can't find that live feed post anywhere, and am wondering if i am like the poster who said they can't remember now if they saw a BB thing 'on the live feeds, on the aired show, or dreamed it or made it up'! i mean it sounds like something chiara would say, but did i imagine it because i think of her as "potty mouth"?!!! gosh, did anyone else read this or see it on the live feeds late last evening?! |
Cute1073 | Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:47 pm     No, she did say that last night....I wish she would stop doing that...makes it harder for me to continue liking her! I mean...why ever would you say that? I think chiara suffers from verbal diarrhea sometimes....things just slip out that she doesn't have time to think about! |
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