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Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'm totally bummed out tonight, and confused, because the screen caps site is currently inaccessable due to exceeding bandwidth, but the strange thing is, I am supposed to have unlimited bandwidth. According to the terms of my contract with the webhost, I've not done anything they don't allow, so I will be contacting them to get to the bottom of this. Sorry folks, I'll see what I can do to get it back. :(

Trulyscrumtious

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mind if I ask how much you pay a month and if you are allowed remote linking of pics?

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
2.50 a month paid in full for a year. There is no mention of remote linking being allowed or not. I've asked people to not link pics from my site to theirs or any others.

Trulyscrumtious

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, that's pretty good. I asked about the remote linking cos' basically that's all I want to buy web space for. For now anyway, one day I'd like to learn HTML and build a site. Don't worry, I didn't wanna link to any of your pics. I just need someplace to store the hundreds and hundreds of screen caps I have, lol.

Is there a setup fee?

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There is no setup fee. Here is the url: 2mhost.

I don't know html. I use a program that came with my win98, called Front Page Express. It's a wysiwyg (what you see is what you get) type program. Its a very basic program, doesn't allow for doing anything too fancy, that I'm aware of. It works for what I'm doing. I keep saying someday I'll get a more professional program, or I'll learn html. LOL.

Trulyscrumtious

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Bunches Sage! bow

Edit: I just checked the conditions and it's says you can't have any jpg's/gif's stored on their servers that are not being directly used on a web page within the same account. :( The hunt continues. Thanks anyway though. :)

Crossfire

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is a bummer Sage, but if there is one thing I know, is that you will never ever get someone to offer, then actually deliver unlimited bandwidth for 2.50 a month.

Be very careful, I've seen cases where people have misinterpreted agreements, and got socked with outrageously large crippling bills.

__Tera

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sage

Quote:

Well, I'm totally bummed out tonight, and confused, because the screen caps site is currently inaccessable due to exceeding bandwidth




You might want to check and see if your images are being linked somewhere else. I had a problem with some nekkid Eric pics being linked to some sites I wouldn't dare go to.. I had to remove them.

It was brought to my attention because I had over 400 hits to my site in one afternoon. It was all because people directly linked the pics instead of downloading and uploading to their own server.

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
SAGE...Yooohooo! You still around?

I'm sure you already know about crunching your gif and jpg files, but if you need a free cruncher, there is one listed at this site.
http://www.spinwave.com/

It lets you reduce the size of your files so they load faster and use less bandwidth.

Also I remember hearing of a program that you could use to incorperate a blocking feature into your graphics so no one could link to them...
But for the life of me I can't find my link for it. I'll keep looking for it!(You might check into some Java programs, that might be where I saw it.)

There is also a program, think it was in Cnet.com, or perhaps at spin also that tracks where your page is linked to.
It gives you the html link to find out who is linking to you.
You can use it and go give them an email to take the link off or you will contact their server and have them cancel their website... but maybe a little nicer said! LOL
Generally that takes care of the problem with them!


I do feel your pain!!!
It's really a bummer when this happens and it happens a LOT! So maybe post on some graphic boards and see if you get some more advice on how they handle it.

Sure wish I could help you out with more info. but I'm having a bad thinking spell. I'll do some looking later and try to find out! Sorry!
I tend to forget where I posted so if you need to email me from my profile and I'll get back to you from there!
FLy

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, well I did pose the question to my webhost as to why my site was shut down. Their reply was a bit greek to me, and I posted in another thread if there was someone who could help me decipher what it means, but I've had no replies. This is what they sent me:

Thank you for contacting us. In answer to your question, we would
like to inform you that:

i increased the trafic a little bit to check your site .. see what your
log say:

68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2723.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 17499 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2722.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 14941 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2724.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 18051 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2725.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 11704 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2727.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 13183 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2729.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 13936 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2730.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 17338 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2731.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 16135 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2732.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 15291 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"
68.80.111.108 - - [30/Jul/2002:06:34:59 -0400] "GET /7%2027/2733.jpg
HTTP/1.1" 200 17764 "http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm" "Mozilla/4.0
(compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)"

and check this page: http://jjrj38.com/bb3p2.htm
then read our terms twice

I've read the terms about 5 times, and still cannot figure out what the deal is. I did take out the pics of Lisa's bum showing her bite, thinking that might have been the cause. Anyway, here is the link for the terms of service:
http://www.2mhost.com/2m/terms.2m

If anyone could help me find out the cause of this, I would appreciate it. I don't know very much at all about doing websites, I just my little free FrontPage Express program, and put the pics on it, then upload with cuteftp. I do need to learn more, but my brain just gets fried too easily on trying to figure this stuff out without someone helping to explain. <sigh>

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It makes not sense..is there a phone number that you can call? It looks like they made an error..

1)Not a chat or message board
2)correct file types
3)No offer of uploading

I didn't see any problem..again..I think your best bet would be to call them

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Saga, I'm not sure about the problem at this point.

Your site works fine for me. I have it on fav's.
Can you tell me again what is happening?

If your exceeding a set bandwidth, even though they say it's unlimited they put restriction on everyone so one person does not "hog" and bog down their system.

If that happens they can do a temp suspend of your account. Means it blacks it out for a while till the load to their server is lower.
then they turn you back on.

I'll check back later and see what your up to. If you want to email me feel free!
You might also want to post your question over on the Tech thread. Maybe get someone more experienced than me to help you out.

Let me know if I can help you find answers and I'll try!
FLY

Crossfire

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is just like I said. Sites offer unlimited bandwidth to reel people in, then crap their pants when someone actually tries to do it.

Basically, you are blowing them out of the water.

I did some quick math on your page, your counter claims 6313 hits.

If all 6313 people hit just the page marked 1, that is worth 1.4Gb of bandwidth.

If all 6313 people hit just the page marked 2, that is worth 1.1Gb of bandwidth.

If all 6313 people hit just the page marked hall of fame, that is worth 1.4Gb of bandwidth.

Add that up, and you get 3.9Gb or about 4000Megs.

You also have 15 pages of archives I never even bothered to count. God only knows what that adds up to.

From the TOS agreement:
--
Please note that over 85% of our clients never exceed even 2000 megs of total FTP and web page transfer combined, so you can be assured that our bandwidth is not choked by numerous 'load-heavy' sites. To further protect the integrity of our service, any individual site consistently using 10% or more of the system's resources may be issued a warning or have its account deactivated.
--

Which is what happened.

Spygirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang, Sage. Your site is just too popular!! :)

Moderator

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, but I had to remove the screen cap posted here. It might have been funny to some, but it was a bit cutting

(14)

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
mod, i love amy, and i love my cat. i thought it was cute, not cutting. sorry you didn't see it that way. for those who missed it,someone put a really cute picture up. it was a cute, wet,orangey-colored kitten with a white towel draped around it's neck. (like amy always wore marc's HoH robe). i think it said something about 'amy just out of the shower in the white robe'...

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fly, the site went down around midnight lastnight, and when I went to bed around 3:30am, it was still down. When I got up at noon, and checked, the site was back up. Basically, when someone went to the site, you got a page that said the site had exceeded its limited bandwidth. Phooey! Unlimited bandwidth, my A$$!

Thanks Fly and Crossfire, for all your help... I guess popularity does have a price. LOL!

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sage,
You might have to rotate the caps to keep your bandwidth down.
Maybe have a change each week...post the date you change the pictures. then have a limited number of pic's. Or daily, but man what a lot of work! UGH!

Also in your agreement it says you can't use it for "storage", all gif's or jpg's MUST be linked to a Html page. (meaning you can't just upload and use part of them. If there in there you have to use them on a web page!)
Which means you'll have to keep them on diskett on your desk and upload each week.

If you just keep them in a file on the server your breaking their rules.
So keep them on a disk and then upload that weeks pics.
Then delete them and upload the next round.
Major pain, but you can work around it and still have fun!

Using a table with thumbnails is also a great way to save.
Tables load faster and then set the size of each picture smaller then the actual live feed screen cap. Size it at 200x200 or less.
(caps generally come out at 268x234 avg compresed at 5 to 15KB)
Yes it is harder to see them but it still will show up. Especially the one person close-ups.
One's that are smaller or harder to see keep them larger. You'll ballance better this way.

It is really a MUST to crunch you gif or jpg files.
I don't know how much you know about this and don't mean to offend, but I'll add it just in case you don't know. (or if someone else needs to know this)

It is best to use JPG's as they are not generally as big a file. (less pixels)
When you save the file see if your paint program has an "export as compressed jpg" from the "file" area.

Paint shop Pro has a "export as optomized jpg or gif"
You choose that and choose how much to "crunch" or compress the graphic. This will reduce the file size.
Try to keep them clean but compress at about 50% the first time, then try 60% ..and up etc.

When you have it like you want it save it to disc.
(keep a copy of the original!!!!!!)
Upload it and look at it. If it's good then go on and do all the rest of your files that are not compressed. (KEEP the original in case you don't like the newly compressed one after you upload it!)

Keep them as low a file size as possible. In the KB area. If they are hundreds of kb or MG then it's way to big a file!!
Compress down to under 20KB is the ideal way!
But sometimes the graphic suffers to much so you have to go bigger on the file size to save the quality of the graphic.

That spin site I gave you is a good way to do it if you don't have one on your system or are not sure of how to do this step. It will do it for you basically, then you just save the result then upload it to your server.

Hope this helps! You can store twice the amount of files if you do this and you won't exceed your bandwidth as often or maybe never!
( IF YOUR LOADING TO THIS SITE in your post this is also a good thing to do as it save TVClubhouse on their bandwidth!!)

LAST:
(Sorry to be so long winded but I'm on a rolll! LOL)
Get a freebie site at Geo, Angelfire, and any others you can find. Open multipal sites, all looking the same but with a different grouping of pics. Link them all together with Page 1, Page 2,
The person will go from site to site and never know they left the first one!
Make sense? That way you spread the bandwidth around. LOL

Sorry if I'm telling you things you already know, but hey maybe it'll help someone else!
Good LUCK!
FLy
(your site is awesome BTW! If you need help with writting html I'll be happy to offer my assistance. I know how to write it without using a preset program. let me know email if you need me K? plezzzzme@cs.com (oh no..here comes the spamers! LOL

Draheid

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sage: Perhaps what you should do is 'compress' the images into clickable thumbnails ... then, if someone wants to see a 'bigger' picture they can click on the thumb of it and it'll pop up for them. That should help reduce your bandwidth demands ... JMO

**SWAT** Fly ... you were posting the same time I was ... in fact I got the nasty 'Admin...' message when I tried to post...(just kidding about the **SWAT** BTW :) )

Flyonthwall

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FLyOUCH!

GMTA!!!
FLy

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Once again Fly, you have outdone yourself! Thank you for so much info. Most of what you have told me, I already know. The file sizes of each pic is about 10 to 20 kb's each, so I think I'm ok there. I've also thought about getting other freebie sites for the archives and linking them from the main site... just haven't done it yet.

Draheid, I don't want to make all my images into thumbnails.. I think that is a pain to click on each image to see it bigger, but that is just me, I'm picky.

My pics are usually rotated either every day, or every other day, and I delete the old ones from the server, so there are no unlinked files.

This a great experience, and I'm having fun (most of the time) learning it all. And I truley do appreciate everyone's great suggestions and help.

Sage

Draheid

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sage: If you are interested, here is a link to a program that can automatically create thumbnail index pages for you ... I used it last year to put about 350 Santa photos online for families to download ... works really well... Image Cataloger (IMCAT).

Sage

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid, I downloaded the program, and will work on figuring it out later tonight. Thanks again.

Sage

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The site is down again.

Delilah

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang Sage, I am sorry you are having so much trouble with your site! I check it every day and I hope you get it sorted out soon, I wish I could help but I have absolutely no clue about things like that. Good luck!

Misslibra

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Fly that animation is so cool!!

Sage, all of you screencaps are great. You do a excellent job! Sorry to hear about your site but I'm sure the kinks will be worked out soon. :)

Sage

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Its because of the amount of traffic I'm getting. I had no idea this would happen. In hopes of saving bandwidth, I'm deleting all the archives.

Thanks everyone! :)

Sage

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
On a happier note, I still have my old website, and I put up a little page there for all you Jason fans. Earlier today, I caught him doing some excerises, and got 3 caps of him doing them, then I made them into an animation. So, here is Jason exercising.

Crazydog

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, I know this has been posted somewhere before, but I have looked in all the likely threads and can't find it. If someone could please re-post the answer I'd appreciate it: how do you get screencaps? I tried the rightclick mouse button and it doesn't seem to be the way. Thanks.

Trulyscrumtious

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There are programs you can download on free trial periods (I use Snagit), or you can just hit your 'Print Screen' key and then just right click in any paint program you have, and hit paste. A picture of your entire screen shows up. Then just crop out everything that isn't the cap.

Poser

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
1. In your real player: Tools, Preferences, Hardware, Turn off Optimize Video Display.

2. Alt-PrintScreen

3. Paste into a graphics program.

Trulyscrumtious

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's a link to SnagIt!

Max

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All I get when I try using SnagIt! is a picture of the RealOne window with a big black area instead of the video cap. My RealOne Player doesn't have a Hardware section in the Preferences or anything I can find that says Optimize Video Display. Oh well. Y'all have been getting great screen caps. :)

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, Flyonthewall told me to use Paintshop, so that's what I've been using. Apparently it comes with Windows, so you should have it on your computer under Accessories. The mouse must be clicked on the screen to be captured, press Alt and Print screen, and then go under edit>paste in Paintshop, which should already be open. It took me a few tries to get it right. I got the black screen thing at first too, but not anymore.

If you have a Mac, then I don't know squat.