Is there any strategy that would evict Danielle?
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Penpoint

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle is playing this game brilliantly, and I've always believed the one who plays best (but within the rules) is the one deserving to win. My problem, however, is that I just don't like Danielle. She is so different from Will last year, who I could like even when I could see him manipulating the house. Danielle just doesn't have the charm that Will had. All that said, I think Danielle is on the road to winning; I've been trying, but can't come up with a logical--or even illogical--scenario that would eliminate Danielle. Can you?

Lurknomore

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sure easy. If she gets put up against Roddy or Eric she would get the boot for sure. I think she would still most likely get the boot up against Jason, and depending on when maybe even Lisa or Chiapet.

Jasons_First

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Why do men have sooo many problems with Dani? Is she that threatening? Geeeessshhhh



Will was so incredibly nasty. He was nasty about all the others. Will had no charm, he was humorous. What if Dani played like Will and had his supposed charm? You'd hate her even more. Will had the charm of a cobra.

Misslibra

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She's all powerful woman ... hear her roar!! :)

Maryk

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only way Danni will be evicted before the final 3 is somehow the core 4 get their way. Otherwise, I think she is assured a top 3 finish, she is playing them very well.
(I don't particularly like the way she is doing it but thats the way I see it right now.)

Wcv63

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
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But it's wisdom born of pain
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You can bend but never break me
'cause it only serves to make me
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And I come back even stronger
Not a novice any longer
'cause you've deepened the conviction in my soul

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Guinevere

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can respect Danielle for not just latching on to a guy as strategy (ala Chiara and Lisa). That said, I don't like her. She appears to me to be arrogant and a little too desperate to win. It has nothing to do (for me) with her being a woman; I don't like the same arrogance in Roddy or the same desperation to win in Josh.

I think she has a good chance, but like Roddy, there is a danger inherent in not flying under the radar. R, C, E & L are aware of her as a potential threat. If the other five were to hang together and oust R, C, E & L, I don't know. I think she'd be in a good position then, because Jason is more loyal to her than to any other of that group, and Marcellus and Josh are at least as loyal to her as they would be to anyone else in that group. So she could easily be construed as the power in a group of five consisting of Josh, Gerry, Marcellus, Jason and herself.

Again, there's still a threat; if any of those guys are smart, they would not want to go up against her in the finals. Better Gerry or Josh, I would guess most of them would think.

Of course, this is all based on how Danielle is viewed in the house RIGHT NOW; who knows how it'll be at the end...

Sheila494

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i hope that somebody in that house uses there head for once to get her behind kicked out..yes it can be one..will somebody please get to doing it.she needs to go.

Niceguy

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Sheila!! It may boil down to the abs class. Do they want to throw out their coach. They need to do it now. Jasons_First it is admirable that you'd like a woman to win. Danielle, however isn't the one I'd like to see win it all. It isn't about her strength and brains. How strong or brainy is it to run someone down at every opportunity. Especially when the cameras have caught you doing the same thing. She thinks she's a mastermind but she really is a piker. Gerry has too much class to rip her open quietly in front of the others. Right now. But I think its coming and then you'll see a woman bouncing off the walls claiming racism and sexism. She's not invincible. Lori pushed her buttons but didn't have the skills to really manipulate it. Gerry does and Danielle knows it that is why she is attempting to keep him on edge. When he does lower the boom(as I expect)everyone will see how pathetic her attacks really are. Jason is already knows and he's supposed to have her back.

Niceguy

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When a rookie quarterback is crunched by several defensive linemen and he's laying on the ground dazed, confused and in massive pain the last guy gets up gives him a smile and says,"Hey, welcome to the N.F.L.!" That's the moment I'm waiting for with Danielle as the quarterback.

Aloha1961

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
to me it doesn't matter if dani is one of the last 2 because if the other hg's are allowed to watch the tapes before they vote i don't think they will vote for her to win.

C1mag

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First you would have to asses who would put Dani up for nominations and then look at who would be voting. The two guys won't touch putting up another female at this point. They know that is touchy with the women right now. Lisa and Chiara aren't gonna do it. Josh? He's not gonna get h0h and if he does he will do what the guys say and then look who's left to vote. At least one female, 2 of Danis boys, and Gerry. She wouldn't get voted out this next week and probably will not get nominated. The targets this week are Josh and Gerry.

C1mag

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aloha... I don't see how watching the tapes would cost her the game. The rules make it clear you can lie, backstab, and be ruthless. Now to my recollection so far she has not bacstabbed anyone. She is playing by the rules and is doing an awesome job. The challenge in your final speech is to remind them of the rules and then challenge them to vote based on who played the game the best based on those rules and not let hurt feelings and jealousy rule their decision just because they didn't get to the finals. You just challenge their integrity and force them to admit that you beat them to the finish line and even if they don't give you the money you can let them know in the end you made it all the way and are still the winner regardless of what amount of money you go home with. Case closed.

Maryk

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
C1mag, do you think she has a chance against either her 2 allies Marcellas or Jason in the finals? In my opinion, I don't think so.

Texastillie

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the evicted HGs can use any criteria they want to in determining the winner (even hurt feelings and jealousy).

In many ways, I like Danielle - she is smart, aggressive, etc. But she is also quite unkind and she shows this outside the boundaries of playing the game.

Danielle has played one against another in so many directions it boggles the mind. I honestly give her a lot of credit for just being able to keep up with all her crosses and double-crosses.

If some of the other HGs put their heads together, they'd realize what she has been doing and it could very well blow up in her face.

She is, however, playing a very good game and certainly could win. Since the evicted HGs are being sequestered, I doubt they are allowed to see tapes, etc. of the show.

Earthmother

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wouldn't count out anyone getting HOH. Sometimes they throw in those competitions that are not competative at all but a game of chance so you wouldn't have a choice but to accept it. Once in that position you might just start thinking a bit more about who should go up. I just think Josh truly believes he is in the Roddy/Eric group because he can't see past wanting to be one of the popular guys. Danielle will eventually have to play against those who have trusted her and then the tide turns once again. I just remember last year thinking when it came down to Hardy, Nicole, Bunky, Will and Monica that there was no way that Hardy could lose. Danielle knows she can't beat Jason in the finals and he knows what is seen and he also knows no one can beat him if it were to end today. I see him being on the block soon for nothing more than he is standing in her way to the cash. Depending on who is left in the house this move on her part may not set too well and she may find herself gone too.

Lancecrossfire

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 06:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think if the core 4 decide she is playing the game a little too well, they might ddcide to put her up if any of them can get HOH.

Of course without winning HOH, any group's plans are of little value.

Rules are funny things--they don't cover every situation. No where in the rules for monopoly does it say you can't throw the board and have a raving tantrum at any point. Yet, I think it would be looked upon in a very negative light.

Dani has something going for her right now that really helps her out--and that is the fact that Josh is running around talking to more people more times than she is--so she is getting ignored for that trait. Josh looks to be seen as a bit out of control with his actions--loose cannon is the term I believed they used.

Aloha1961

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
c1 i never said she wasn't playing the game good.. i just think the people she's in the house with will take offense to her playing all sides and making each side think she's with them.. i don't think she'll have a chance against... marcellus, jason, or even roddy... she has a slim chance against lisa ...

who knows this game is unpredicable... it's rumored that they may put an evicted hg back in and that person could win it all... i wouldn't bet anything on a winner right now...

Bmh

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle I believe has the best stratedgy and is playing the game the best..she is extremely intelligent and has had a agenda since day 1..I definitely see her in at least the final 4..as long as her and her allies can mantain HOH for the next few weeks

Niceguy

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She wants the money. That is clear. Her plan is not brilliant. Lori and Tonya were picked by the HOH before she added any grace notes to their evictions. I'm personally hoping Amy drops a bombshell as she walks out the door Thursday, like,"Watch your backs y'all, Danielle thinks she got everybody fooled. Especially you Gerry." Now that would be great t.v.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy wouldn't say that Niceguy..sorry to disappoint you..but Amy and Marcellas had a talk and they both love Danielle to death and said they would vote for her if she was up against Jason because she is woman and she deserves the money..
I still dont understand why everybody is hating on Danielle just because she tries to make things interesting and she is actually playing the game unlike some other houseguests

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
After last night I don't find her to be intelligent at all. She may have all the angles but she keeps shooting herself in the foot with her nasty mouth. She has dissed just about everyone in the house in a very trashy way and now making Jason uncomfortable with graphic sexual talk which he has repeatedly asked to stop. She won't need anyone to stop her she is doing a fine job of doing it to herself.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Umm..Earthmother I will admit what Chiara and DAni did was wrong..but it was a joke!!..everybody likes to tease Jason..but he knows nobody means anything by it..if you watched the LF's after Jason got upset..Chiara said she was kiddin and they were laughing and everything was fine..Alot of you guys are more upset about this than Jason is..it's ridiculous!

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The thing to remember about this show is that it is a marathon......the real game playing hasn't started. We will see how Danielle and the other contenders react to being nominated, being head of household, or winning the all-important veto challenge. This game may feature back-biting not seen in the first two BB's, and the one that keeps their cool will take home the $$$$$$. It is all about the $$$$$$; these people will have little or no contact with each other by the end of October.

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He was offended and it's not funny to make someone uncomfortable I don't care whether you meant it as a joke or not! He is not going to put himself in a position to be called a nut if he goes off, but I don't think he will forget it. These are my opinions based on what I see and hear in an 8th grade class. Saying "I'm sorry, I was just joking" can not be said over and over again, after making the same comments over and over again, without it becoming only an excuse to get yourself out of hot water. The hurtful pattern of behavior which some people continue to exibit even after saying "I'm sorry" proves that they are not really sorry, but instead meant to do and will continue to do it because they don't respect other people's feelings.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya but what I was trying to say is Jason laughed it off after Chiara said it was a joke..I totally understand what you are saying and a somewhat agree..but there is no reason to say how terible Chiara and Dani are if Jason was okay with the whole thing after it was explained..if it bothered him that much..he would still be angry and would have probably explained the situation with other hg's saying he doesn't appreciate what Dani and Chiara have been doin..he hasn't..maybe he is too nice..but from the looks of it after it was all over it didn't bother him..I just dont want anyone getting the wrong impression..because it seems like most people on this thread thing Jason is extremely upset and mad and he isn't..thats it

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
and then what..."Oh Jason is acting like a baby, I can't believe he would really think we meant it. He is losing it in this house, maybe we should work together to send him home." Seen it happen too many times before and Jason knows it because he is a reality junkie, so he has to play it off. You don't make fun of a person by using his church or his mother's respect as bait. He will bide his time. He will pretend it's ok but I would stake my life on the fact that he is not ok with it.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya I agree Earthmother..it didn't seem to bother him from my perspective..but ur right if they keep it up..he will show his dark side.. Can you imagine Jason yelling and arguing with ppl lol??..i guess it could happen if they push him to far

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just want him to wait until he has it in the bag..lol

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The definition of "dark side" here is hard to understand. He may get angry, but that would be normal. He may tell them to knock it off, but that would be normal. He may even say what he thinks of their behavior, but that would be normal. He isn't violent, but he isn't a wimp either. These people mean little or nothing to him, just obstacles on the way to a big paycheck. Being dull and non-confrontational has its benefits.