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Hotty_Toddy

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara and Lisa are making up ugly words to Hotty Toddy to possibly say to Amy on her goodbye tape. Personally, I am INSULTED! See my screen name. I shall challenge that little Yankee slattern to a duel. Oh, my heart. And talking about how she is going to say Mississippi State is the best school in the country. I am sorry, but I feel the need to beat this person soundly about the head and shoulders. She has personally insulted me and everyone I know now. You can do whatever the hell you want but once you insult Ole Miss you have to mess with me, sister. No quarter! No quarter! GRRRRRRRRRRR!

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What *was* Amy's going away message to Tonya? I've never heard her talk about it, but I don't listen to the feeds 24/7. So apparently Chiara had the meeting, and then found out about the mean going away message to Tonya, and then Chi Chi and Lisa were making up the cheer. Do you think Chi Chi will actually do the cheer? If she does, will Arnie show it?

Marcellasfan

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hotty, breathe in, breathe out....;)

Jojo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa said Amy said goodbye to Tonya in ten languages in a b*tchy manner.

Riviere

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
There, there, HT, we all know Miz Amy is about as real as Scarlett O'Hara with equal sense most of the time, and she's mad her lil painted kewpie doll face won't get as much tv time as BB1 Jamie did. You notice when Amy drinks she loses her accent, too?

Hotty_Toddy

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope y'all know I'm exaggerating...a little. ;) I am not sure what your point is, Rivere. My accent gets worse when I drink.

Isn't it just so funny, though? All these people saying Chiara has gone up in their estimation tonight, but I am now irrevocably against her now just because of dumb luck in timing and the fact that she happened to be insulting something that is personal to me. (Didn't see anything before this convo.) It has progressed far beyond distaste. I can tell you that if Kiki does do that, Amy is going to be as mad as I am. How is she doing that right after this supposed big moment? Can anyone explain? The plus side to Amy getting evicted is that my short-lived BB3 addiction will be over by Thursday and I can go back to just watching the shows.

Riviere

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That was my point, HT, heheh! When Amy drinks her southern belle accent fades, that's a first for me, with many kin in the south and theirs get heavier after a couple drinks.. How phoney is Amy? Oh well it was just a thought.. :)

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Good news...Roddy just talked her out of doing the cheer by pointing out how immature it was. She was talking about how she empathized with Amy about the small-town crap, and then he pointed out the similarity between the small-town crap and doing the cheer. Smart Roddy! I like him better now.

I think it's hard to judge a person by any one act. If throwing Amy the pity party is the only thing Chi Chi's done that's redeemable to most folks, then hearing she's being catty is going to switch their opinion right back. People do nice and stupid things all day long.

Hotty_Toddy

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is good. Thanks, Oregon. That really would be humilating to have something so important to you that you shared with someone thrown back in your face and everyone around here would know exactly what it meant. But I swear I can't take any more of this. Run, Amy, run! Come home!

Rig

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hotty_Toddy,if you have a set of those old-fashioned pistols, you could duel her in true southern fashion. I'll be your second (but that would mean I would have to negotiate with Roddy!)

Bigbrotherbelle

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'm glad Roddy talked some sense in her, especially after Amy said how sorry she was for the DR entries that she made before. What is it that Roddy said repeatedly? The highest form of ethic is forgiveness (or something similar).

Bigbrotherbelle

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"I am sorry, but I feel the need to beat this person soundly about the head and shoulders. "

This had me LMAO.

Wcv63

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay...now I guess I have to go read the live feed reports to figure out what happened. I knew my warm and fuzzy feeling would be FOTHed too soon.

Trulyscrumtious

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was one of those people who was really impressed with Chiara's act of compassion and empathy towards another human being. That lasted about an hour.

Lisa tells her what Amy's good-bye message to Tonya was, and it took all of about 3 seconds for her to decide to start playing tit-for-tat.

First off...Was she not listening during Amy's little speech tonight? She must not have been. If she had, she would have heard Amy apologize profusely for all the nasty comments she's made in the Diary Room against the housemates. That would include good-bye messages, as that's where they are taped. She flat out admitted to being verbally abusive towards others when she feels she's being attacked or hurt by someone.

Which brings me to my second point...Tonya made a nasty, out of line, flippant comment to Amy, that in a nutshell, basically accused her of being an alcoholic. What does Amy do, she walks away (like the lady she is), without starting a big raucous, heads back out to the yard, lifts her mike to mouth and repeats, 'Emergency Diary Room, Emergency Diary Room'. No sooner does she drop the mike back down, dangling around her neck, than Tonya comes bombing out, finger waving, 'Don't Mess With Me' threats, fake boobs and all.

She felt attacked, insulted and I'm sure, in no mood to be at all pleasant to this woman when it came time to tape her good-bye message. If you ask me, Tonya got off light. Amy has a mouth and a half on her when she gets mad, and if being told good-bye in 10 different languages is all she said (even if it is in a b*tchy manner), than I'd say that's proof positive that Amy is trying to be a better person, just as she has said she wants to.

My point is (and yeah I have one, lol), that Amy had already apologized for her behaviour. Which Chiara seemed to accept. To then have her jump on the very first band-wagon that comes along promising 'Good TV' (as her and Lisa put it) through complete and total humiliation of another human being is deplorable. It was as if she hadn't actually heard a word Amy said.

Something tells me that she hung on every word Marci was screaming at Amy though.

Marcieb

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wait, Amy DIDN'T go to Mississippi State? She doesn't wear an Old Miss garment every day because she's a 24-year old virgin? Oh, that's Jason? OHHHH, I get it now.

Bigsister

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcieb - As I understand it, Amy attended Ole Miss, which is the University of Mississippi. Mississippi State University is their bitter rival.

What555456

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, because Amy apologized and people did not immediately reject it (who would?), that should make every nasty thing she has ever said go away as if it never came out of her mouth?

I don't think so.

Trulyscrumtious

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No, these things do not go away. But if you act as if you are accepting of her apology to her face, and then jump at the first opportunity to humiliate her (for something she has just apologized for) behind her back...well, let's just say I have a problem with that and leave it at that.

btw... I have always looked at forgiveness as an act of compassion. Something you do for another human being not because you deem them worthy of it, but because they need it to move on. Perhaps my opinion on last nights events differs from yours because of my beliefs. This does not make my opinion wrong, just a different one than yours.

Max

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I said it last night and I'll say it again. I fully expected Chiara and Dani to both be backstabbing Amy after she left, if not sooner. It's part of the game and you can never be sure of anyone's motives in that house.

I still like what both of them did for her last night during all the drama, though. I just don't think either act is the full picture for these gals.

There's some things I like and some things I don't about most people. If the "like" outweigh the "dislikes" then I want to be around those folks more often. Otherwise, I just try to be an acquaintance, a co-worker, or at least just polite. :)

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I'd like to see what else folks have to say about this, so is bump-worthy in my book!

Lurknomore

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Truly thank you for your post...you saved me A LOT of typing lol. It was precisely what I was thinking. Who could fault Amy after how wicked Tonya was to her. And last night prior to the Chiapet arranged love fest Amy told her that she said simply horrible things in her goodbye messages. Chia told her not to worry. HA!

I got yelled at (ok not yelled at but most here thought I was wrong lol) last night for thinking Chiara was totally phony in her feelings towards Amy and that lovefest. I think this proves it. She knew all this before she planned it, so now she can see "see look how kind I was to Amy before I found out how horrid she is." BLECHHHH Chiara I can't stand this woman!

Snee

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i think chiara had a kind moment or two initiating the living room scene. i did not like the farce that went on there because i think it was demeaning for amy. 'we like this about you, but make no mistake, you're going...and here's a bone to take with you.' still, i'm not convinced they realized they were so condescending.

i'm not happy that chiara and lisa planned an anti-amy cheer after all that, but i'm not surprised. apparently they didn't think amy's apology for her dr remarks was sincere, or perhaps sincere enough for them to dispense with their payback. roddy made a good point about the smalltown meaness reflected in the planned cheer.

as for the forgiveness issue, i think it can be a difficult thing to do, especially when emotions are still so raw. still, i think that if you don't think you are in a place to forgive, you shouldn't say you do forgive. indicate that you need to think, you need to take some time. but, that's in the real world, not this pressure cooker of a house. also, i think many people say they forgive because they find it awkward to NOT say it even if they don't feel it. anyway, maybe some of these hg's should say: talk to the DR because the face AND the hand aren't listening!

Surini

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you posters (and I mean that sincerely)!! You all seem to have such a wonderful way of expressing yourselves and, whether you know it or not, you are doing it for me too... I for one struggle with how to put what I'm thinking or feeling into words (i.e. will the post be too long winded, am I offending anyone etc.). I'll sit and struggle with how to word it and I'll look up and see that someone has already put a wonderful post up there describing exactly how I feel ... and I think "phewwww, thank you poster!" I've learned now to just sit back when I want to post and wait because I know someone will much more eloquently post my thought within a minute or two and all I have to do is say "yes, my thoughts exactly!" Love you all!!

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was a quick fix to calm Amy down and make her feel better. It's one of those "take it for what it's worth" moments IMO. I personally don't think it was that demeaning because it was what she needed at that moment so badly--attention and approval. And if it was demeaning, Amy started the whole demeaning ball rolling by begging for a vote to begin with. Amy won't stay because she's too high maintenance at this point. No I don't hate her, yes, I feel sorry for her, but the game goes on.

Snee

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OF, i agree that the begging wasn't a good idea. i think that if the living room comments made amy feel better then that's good, but thought they were demeaning because, i suppose, i was on the outside looking in. to me some of them were giving her back-handed compliments--still managing to be a bit snotty.