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Bmh

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I understand the majority of you guys dislike Chiara but it is not like she is taking it out of spite and it isn't because she was selfish..As much as i love her lets face it Amy is a lush and made a fool out of herself last nite..they are doing it for her own good..plus Amy is greedy and takes everybody elses wine and does not share well at all when it comes to alchohol..Im sorry but what Chiara did was justified

Tabbyking

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i have heard many comments (said laughingly) by the other houseguests about amy filling her glass to the top and giving them 'one inch of wine'. they never said anything to her while it was going on, however, other than to tease. if they want more, they are adults, they can ask.
i do think there is an awful lot more alcohol (sponsors and all that) than ever before. last year they had to do challenges to even get a six pack or two to share among all of them. and i think it's funny they won't give them red wine, because that is what krista and justin were drinking during the knife incident. i guess malt drinks, beer and white wine don't get you drunk?

Mizinvancouver

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh come on people who are trying to justify them hiding the booze from Amy. They are not 'protecting' her!! It's not like she's hurting herself or destroying things or hurting anyone else. (Well ok, she is hurting her liver! lol)

But jeesh, they're just as bad as she is in my opinion.

Bmh

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy is selfish no-one else in the house can have a nice glass of wine..because of her..there is no reason to be rude and fill ur glass to the top and give everybody else a drop..that is just selfish..No-one else does that..everybody else manages to share most of the things in the house why cant she?..why is it okay for her to do these things??

Mizinvancouver

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not a matter of it being ok for her to not 'offer' wine, but that doesn't justify them hiding it on her.

I agree she should be kind and offer wine to others, but they could also just address the issue with her when ever there's alchol to be offered. Not hiding it like children.

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Question: Did they hide all the wine or just their share?

Kapow

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I will again state my opinion that all of the HG's are supposed to be adults. If Amy seems to be hogging the wine, then tell her so at that point. I have been around many a person who seems to be a "hog". My friends and I call them on it when it is happening. We say - HEY! quit hogging! Give us some. To remain silent and then to complain about it later is passive aggressive crap. Selfish - smelfish. We all are - about our own things important to us. Maybe wine is important to Amy. I've seen Chiara awfully selfish about Roddy time. And Lisa about Eric. How is that different? Adults just say it like it is ---- Amy, quit hogging, Chiara, stop being so jealous. It's the way I live.

Keiffer

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL, I was just thinking about how people are saying that the other HG's should have protected Amy from drinnking so much by demanding theirs, and here they are making sure they get their share. SEems like there is no argument here.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hiding booze from Amy seems like a natural thing that a lot of people would do. I used to have a bf in the mid 70's that drank all the time....he always had a pint of whiskey around. He would get drunk and obnoxious every night, so I began hiding it, like a good little co-dependent. :-)

Unbeknownst to me, he had extra bottles that HE hid, and he would just leave his decoy bottles out for me to hide (he put flat, watered down cola in them to make it look like whiskey). I didn't drink whiskey, so it never occurred to me to check the contents!

The point is that I was not hiding it from him so *I* could drink it....I was hiding it from him so I could have some peace of mind without having to deal with HIS drunkeness. Needless to say that relationship didn't last long. LOL

I'm not saying that is the "right" thing to do or the most healthy way to deal with a situation like that....just that it really is not unusual at all for some non or social drinkers to hide booze from people they are living with that they *perceive* to have a problem with drinking.

Meggieprice

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw a scene the other night when Amy had poured a glass of wine and was drinking it and Lisa pointedly removed the bottle to the other end of the table- Amy snatched it back with a totally devilish look on her face and poured her glass full again while Lisa's back was turned. Amy has already been confronted-to no avail- in fact she was told it was her selfishness that led to her evicition... she's got a problem and I think with her (most probably) leaving soon they'd rather make it easy instead of trying to fix her and make another scene.

jmo, of course!

Kk3

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, what I saw on the feeds was this.

Chi found beer and wine in the SR off camera and yelled for Dan (who was in with Lisa in bed waiting for the doctor).

Dan left the room to see what Chi was yelling about. They came back in with Dan holding a good size bottle of wine. Some discussion about gettin a wine sponsor. Dan was very excited about the wine, not chi. LOL Dan even did a little cabbage patch dance with the wine for the cameras. Dan suggested that they hide it for later. Dan & Chi leave the room to hide it in the HRD.

Hope that helps.

Saph036

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Solution to the problem is give them ENOUGH alcohol to share peacefully. I recall that the last two BB's had much more than thier share.

JMO

Mizinvancouver

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly SanFranJoshFAn!!!

Besides, you were only one person! Here there are quite a few houseguests who have a problem with her drinking, but nobody says anything?!! It's ridiculous. It's like they're in elementary school.

(Oh ya, someone asked if they just took their own share... it doesn't matter if was only their share, it's still childish.)

Meggieprice

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do we know for sure they will not give her any? That remains to be seen.Perhaps they just want to retain control until later.

Sisalou

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree about calling people on it when they are hogging stuff, have done it several times. But, I have to admit I have done my share of hiding stuff.

If I was in there I would be stashing any sweets I could get my hands on! :)

Tootseug

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, because of this "hiding the liquir" incident, Big Brother now has ANOTHER negative storyline in which to send Amy out on. When she finds out, their will be a scene. And you know about how they edit, they'll show her like she was last night, and go to the arguementative scene for which we have yet to behold. Amy will then leave on Thurs, with her tail between her legs. Talk about kicking a lady when she's down...

BB has never during BB3 to my knowledge, given them this much alcohol. I ask you...why tonight?

Spygirl

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kapow said:
I understand what you are saying. However, shouldn't the other HG's confront her at the time of the misbehavior rather than waiting until she has taken their share and complaining behind her back?

HAHAHAHAHAHA! This group? But then that would give them NOTHING to complain about :)


Anyway, pretty amazing how this thread has also turned into a bash Amy's drinking thread. They are getting to be almost as bad as the Bash Chiara threads

Kk3

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Toot, I saw 1 bottle of wine and 1 bottle of beer for each HG. This is NOT a tremendous amount of alcohol. From what I saw, nobody mentioned Amy at all. Dan wanted to hide the wine to share later. R & C took their beers, and I believe Ja, L & E's to put in the HOH fridge.

Not a big deal.

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So this whole thing has nothing to do with Amy??? Grrrr....

Seamonkey

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think part of the problem early on was that sometimes Marcellas gave his "portion" of the alcohol to Amy and I believe Jason has also done that as well.. that set up the idea that she got more. Seems like it would be a good thing to give each one a certain amount and a non-drinker could get some other drink or item. I remember Krista drinking up a huge number of beers in one evening more than once.

The bottom line is that the producers actually
WANT people to get looped, sadly. Me, I'd probably just not provide booze for the next three days, but I'm sure they hope that Amy will again drink.

They have previously hidden wine this season, by the way.

I don't think they've handled the issue well, I don't blame them for setting aside their share, but they should make sure it is only their share. Like whatever is left in the storeroom should be for those who don't have a stash. They might also look at who is eating more, etc. I've not noticed Gerry eating leftovers in the morning, but some of them seem to pack in an awful lot of food/icecream when they stay up late, so maybe he just gets "his" early?


Off topic sort of, but so far this year it seems like the smokers aren't as addicted. I think Roddy asked Chiara if she was upset that she (they) were out of cigarettes and she really wasn't.. sorta like if they were there she might smoke, but no big deal. Last year there were any number of them who might have literally gone over the wall without them (or the patch).

Mizinvancouver

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Meggieprice-- I didn't know that Lisa took (probably snatched is more like it, but I can't say as I don't have the live feeds.) the wine bottle from Amy to the other side of table then Amy took it back with a devil-lish grin while she had her back turned.

My thought is if someone took the bottle out of my had without having the courtesy to say something like," I would like a glass too please." no wonder she flipped. Not that I'm justifying her but it just seems everyone is childish to me.

I don't think Amy should be the only one to blame here.

(Wow, just noticed the most horrible run on sentence above...sorry. lol)

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mizin - "Here there are quite a few houseguests who have a problem with her drinking, but nobody says anything?"

Yep....last night after the "date" when Amy was going on and on to Eric and Lisa about how much she liked them....Dani, Marce and Jason were at the table in the backyard just cracking up. They were laughing and rolling their eyes because Amy was being so loud, and foolish, talking nonstop. They tried to get Marce to go drag her away from Eric and Lisa to save her from herself, but he was afraid to. Then Dani instigated Jason to do it...which he finally did. When he went over, Dani and Marce were kind of cowering down, looking over and giggling, not knowing what to expect, but seemed relieved when Amy went inside with Jason. It was all funny for them, but didn't seem to be in a mean way. They were honestly concerned for Amy making a fool of herself.

Later, Amy came back out and Dani took her back in, telling her several times that she didn't want Amy to "appear drunk *on television*"....that way Dani was able to be truthful without having to deal with telling a drunk person that she was drunk and making a fool of herself. (They dont like it when you do that) Amy acquiesced and Dani walked her to the bed and sat and listened to Amy for awhile....Amy was calling her "mom" and rambling on and on. I got bored and stopped watching.

My point is that a lot of the HG were concerned over the fact that Amy didn't seem able to handle her liquor.

Still....I spoze it's possible that Dani and Chia just hid the wine for a late night girl slumber party....or maybe she is planning to ply them with wine to try and learn strategies!

:-)

Kk3

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, without saying anything about Amy, they felt the need to hide the alcohol. Did not mention her by name, but it was a 'just in case' attitude. Not meant to be hurtful or selfish. Just to make sure that when they wanted their beer, they could have it. Or in Dan's case, the wine.

Tootseug

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kk3, actually Chira said there were two bottles of wine, one red and one white. Plus all those beers. For BB to do this tonight, after the fiasco of last night is..manipulative. Period. They may well be trying to assure that Amy gets the boot..manipulative. I just feel that their timing is off, on this one. They know she has a problem, out of courtesy, why not wait till Thurs. night to bring out the alcohol.

As far as them hiding the wine, I agree, that that is not a good idea. They all should own up, and pour her her share and consume their share, if they so choose. And if they don't want their share, perhaps, just for this week, offer a portion of it to other Hg's as well as Amy. It's not so much being co-dependent, as just being considerate for her and her reputation once she leaves.

And BB definitely does not need anymore bruhaahaa on this for Wed. show.

Mizinvancouver

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 08:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said Tootseug!!! :-)
(Sorry no fancy clip-art here..lol)