Is it possible to evict Roddy?
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Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:24 am     First: I do not like Roddy. At all. But, ignoring feelings: is it possible to get rid of this man, or has he pretty much won? Who could you put him up against and he not win? First, the only person strong enough to nominate him is Marc. So, assuming Marc won HOH, who would he put Roddy up against (presuming Marc's aim is to evict Roddy)? Gerry or Josh would be a waste - they'd be evicted. Jason? Nice as he is, he has formed no allegiances, and might be viewed as a threat. He would probably be the one evicted. Chia or Lisa? The men would vote them out, including Eric. Danielle? Marc is loyal to her. That leaves Eric. So, in Roddy vs. Eric, who would win. Chia and Lisa would vote for their man. Gerry has sworn his loyalty to Roddy, but Josh would vote to evict Roddy. That leaves Danielle and Jason. I think Jason would lean towards keeping Eric, but who knows for sure. Danielle would have figured all of this out and would be too scared for Roddy to win and she had gone against him. And finally, what if a Roddy-sympathizer got veto? Roddy would kill Marc and whoever he felt betrayed him (Josh, Dani, or Jason. He always manages to keep the majority. |
Earthmother | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:39 am     It's never over til it's over. Last year everyone, including himself, thought Hardy had it sewed up too. Roddy is a threat but the rest will have to wait until the playing field in less crowded to make their move. Kent didn't help by putting Hardy in victim role and I don't see anyone doing that for Roddy except maybe Josh who has no real followers). |
Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:44 am     Josh doesn't have the guts. He may do some mean things, but not things that require courage. He was so astonished when Tonya got booted. He can't handle that again: Roddy, Eric or Chia would get revenge. |
Marcieb | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:21 am     I think Roddy's lectures on a new topic daily are meant to relay to the other's, "Don't bother thinking, I'll do all that for you." He explains his strategy to Eric patiently as though it's to a nephew and never incorporates any input from E. or anyone else. When he chastized Josh for (allegedly) privately suggesting Roddy may have 'game' I was amazed that Josh looked like a child who knew he deserved to be spanked. Roddy is more than a threat. He's in control. With a capital C. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:41 am     The time to get him out would have been last week. But it would have involved those NOT in the 6 pack (if they could even figure out who that is) smartening up and realizing they had to get him out NOW while they still had the numbers. Unless they impload and turn on each other soon I see this game being totally boring from here on out as we just watch them pick off anyone worth watching. I can't see anyone watching the last month of this show if it turns out they way they want. There will be no suspense, intrigue, or interesting conversation. If Arnie doesn't have some trick up his sleeve to prevent this I would hope he is smart enough to hire someone capable of thinking up something SOON. |
Muse | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:43 am     I don't see Roddy winning BB3. He has a better chance that some (okay, most) of the HGs, and will probably go pretty far in the game. But people also see him as a threat. Even Eric has outright told him that he would vote Roddy out if it got down to the final three. I think Roddy might be nominated by Danielle or Marcellas if they win HoH next, but unless he's put up against Eric (unlikely), I don't know if he'll actually go. But if he's put up later in the game he's in more danger, IMO. |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:46 am     If Roddy is ever voted out I hope whoever is left in the house would pick him up and literally throw him out. |
Jan | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:46 am     I also have a hard time imagining a scenario where Roddy gets evicted. The only way it has a chance is to put him up against Eric and split the vote...but then the power of the Veto would probably save both of them. How do they realistically get rid of this boy? or Eric? |
Surini | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:48 am     lmao Ketchuplover....my sentiment exactly! |
Loriwillwin | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:54 am     Lurknomore, is there anyone in this House who doesn't at least WISH they were in the six-pack? I'm sure Amy, at one point, would've loved to be a part of it; Jason would be happy to join up as would Danielle; Marcellus, when he was HOH and picking a team for the food challenge, expressed that he always enjoyed being part of the in-crowd, and then there's his mad crush on Roddy; Josh is certain he's "in"; Gerry was "in" at the beginning and I bet he secretly feels if he makes the right moves, he can join up again; Tonya, I was certain, was in the six-pack while she was in the House. In fact, who IS in the six-pack? And if they aren't one of the Core Four, does it really matter anyway? This certainly contrasts with last year when you had the Hardy/Nicole team who wouldn't have joined Chilltown if you paid them. I don't think Bunky, Kent and Autumn ever aspired to join Chilltown either. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:56 am     I want him evicted and will send all my eviction vibes in his direction. If that doesn't work I'm flummoxed. |
Maryk | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:56 am     Short answer is Yes. He is the biggest threat to win the game. Given the opportunity, he will be voted out. Even if they don't admit openly, they all went there for the money and/or to last as long as possible for the exposure. this opinion coming from a Roddy supporter still
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Lurknomore | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:00 pm     Good points Lori, but I think there is one who not only wouldn't join them but has NO intention of doing it even if invited...Marcellas. He already told Gerry that he waivered in his loyalty to him but from here on out it is back regardless of what he says. Marcellas is my only hope of saving this game but it might be too late. My hope is Marc gets real smart soon and organizes against the rest. But I'm not sure he could bring Jason onboard at this point. I think a lot would depend on how open Jason's eyes are. He adores Roddy, but he is also the only true BB fan in the house, and he is NOT dumb. The problem is they really needed Amy in the house for this and right now it's look unavoidable that she is gone In hindsight last weeks nominations should have been Roddy and either Eric or Chiara. I saw where Marcellas didn't want to burn his Roddy bridges, but they would have had the best shot at keeping the numbers and making this a real game if he had done that. Sigh. |
Anneph | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:00 pm     I can see this happening next week - it's a HOH tie breaker if there is a tie. Daniell - wins HOH - puts up Roddy & Eric Marc wins POV - chooses not to use it Lisa, Marc & Josh vote to evict Roddy Chiapet, Gerry, Jason - vote to evict Eric Tiebreaker - Danielle - votes out Roddy I think I would love to see that scenario |
Trulyscrumtious | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:04 pm     Hahahahaha Ketchup...I agree, whole-heartedly!  |
Zeyna | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:15 pm     I can't see Danille winning HOH. She likes to work behind the scenes and being HOH will surely result in unwanted enemies. If she does for some reason win, she will put up the obvious choice - Gerry and whoever else, resulting in Gerry's eviction. Mar is the only one with enough guts right now to nominate Roddy, but I don't think he'd be evicted. He keeps things organized at the moment and does the thinking for the 4 pack. They will want to keep him around until the last 4-5. |
Jan | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:24 pm     zeyna Dani, Marc and Jason just solidified the clique. They include Gerry and Josh as temporary parts of their clique. THey will lay low and let Josh or Gerry win HOH and urge them to nom 2 of the core 4 (Dani seems sure she can get Josh to nom Lisa and Chia while Marc thinks he can get Gerry to do one of the couples) All of this was just discussed about 15 minutes ago. |
Zeyna | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:27 pm     Arghh! I missed that - thanks Jan |
Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:40 pm     Jan, did you forget that Gerry swore he wouldn't nominate or vote against Roddy? So, he'd do Eric/Lisa or Lisa/Chia. Roddy would still be in control. Josh would do Lisa/Chia. In all honesty, Roddy would not care that Chia was almost gone, but Lisa would see clear through it. She would become a threat to Roddy and he would have to get her out. He would still be in control. And Anneph, there is no way Danielle would have the guts to put up Roddy. (P.S. Thanks, guys! This was my first time starting a thread. I can't believe I got responses!) |
Jan | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:49 pm     Pinky yeah I hear what you are saying but this is Dani's plan. She wants the core 4 down to 3..then she figures it's her 5 against their 3. Once that happens she figures they run the core 4 out then dump Josh and Gerry and that leaves her clique of 3. So she doesn't see Roddy going in the near term. She wants Josh and Gerry hung out for the next two weeks to take the retribution. Then, she said, we three will start to play.(they will lay low till then) It might work! |
Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:02 pm     I don't have live feeds so I have to rely on you all. Does Gerry seem comfortable going back on his word to Roddy? And is Jason reliable to vote to evict Roddy and/or Eric? |
Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:06 pm     One more question: as emotional as Marc is, I was certain that he'd be so angry at Amy being evicted (if she is!) that he would go straight after Roddy. I'm surprised to hear that he is planning to lay low and let Josh or Gerry win HOH. I understand that Dani persuaded him to her plan, but I thought his passions would be overbearing this week if Amy is ousted. |
Jan | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:07 pm     IF I remember correctly (which I don't often do!) pinky Gerry gave his word not to oust Roddy..did he say anything about the rest? He could put up Eric and Lisa could he not, without breaking his word? |
Jan | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:09 pm     No Pinky, Marc has said a few times that he realizes that Amy cooked her own goose. Even before she was nommed, he told Dani that he realized that Amy was becoming a liability, that he kept telling her to quit acting out but she just wouldn't listen. In his heart, he knows that he is only nommed because of her actions. So I think he will be willing to wait. (besides he still is bent on getting Josh out if you can believe it) |
Pinky780 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:28 pm     Jan, you are confusing me!!!!! You and I keep following each other from thread to thread! I can't keep my topics straight! |
Cyn | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:44 pm     anneph, hope your dream comes true |
C1mag | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:29 pm     It's really an easy deduction. You have to have the guts to put both him and Eric up on the block at the same time. No matter which one goes you have defeated Roddy at that point. You are forgetting that Roddy does not see the women as strong enough to play this game. So he won't know who to turn to after that. By taking away his buddy in crime you give him virtually no backing and you can even smile at him at that point and let him know that given the chance he is the next to go because "He's just too smart" That way you passify his ego and he realizes the game is over for him. I'm like so many on this board that believe secretly they all want him out they just don't know how to go about it without it messing up their easy ride to the finals. I think some of them are scared to take him on. Funny thing is the longer he stays the more likely even his buddy Eric will turn on him the first time Roddy gets nominated. I don't know about anyone else but I'm a bit tired of hearing how integrity should be played in this game. ITS A GAME for god sakes. So if any of them are in fear of Roddy standing up at the end and looking at them and calling them "liars" all they have to do is refer back to the rules. The rules make it clear that lying, backstabbing, and being ruthless are all accepted forms of game play in order to get to the prize. Then challenge him by saying, " You will either hand me the top prize because I beat you to the finish line based on the rules" or "You will hand the person next to me the prize based on jealousy" now that's the real challenge of integrity. Personally I think they are afraid of this man. |
Loriwillwin | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:55 pm     C1Mag, I don't think it's so much fear of losing their integrity that keeps people in line as fear of losing their credibility. Case in point: the second week when Gerry used his "power of veto," there was an outcry among the HG's that he'd acted dishonorably and violated his agreement with the six-pack. All of us out here were dismayed by how mean the HG's were to Gerry, and how quickly and completely they ostracized him. We didn't see that he'd acted dishonorably at all. (Maybe pompously, but that's it.) But it was almost like Roddy, Eric, etc. were establishing the "rules" of their little society right then and there: exercise the power of veto and you're toast. They were almost setting up a "code of ethics" right then and there, which if disobeyed would threaten any HG's survival in the game. Yesterday, Roddy was remarking about his strategy in nominating Amy/Marcellus, and how he'd deliberately selected people whom he could "afford to alienate." Notice how he didn't nominate Chiara, or Eric, or Lisa, or even Josh. I'm sure he'd love to see any one - or all - of them go, but he couldn't nominate them because it would violate the ethics of the game, which they are all inventing as they go along. |
Earthmother | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 05:13 pm     yep..put up Roddy and Eric, if their so called girlfriends win veto and save one of them, then you put up the other's girlfriend. Either way you have a chance to get rid of one of the guys who seem to think they are in charge. If someone else gets the veto power and chooses not to use it then the L and C votes will cancel each other out. |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 29, 2002 - 01:03 am     WOOHOO they sound like they have seen the !!!!! Jason, Marcelle, and Danielle were strategizing and they all were agreeing that Roddy HAS to go. Jason was all fired up and going on about how brilliant Roddy is because he put up and is booting out Amy and now she LOVES him and how he can win. Does my heart good to hear how many times they agreed he had to go. Then (damn it) Amy came in and that ended the conversation. Was cute watching them all jump in their beds and pretend they weren't huddled together. I'm so glad I couldn't sleep LOL. Finally something worth seeing! |
Wcv63 | Monday, July 29, 2002 - 01:18 am     Ooooo Lurk...I was watching that too! I posted in the Jason dark side thread... Jason is finally showing us a little bit of his game playing. Love it! |
Flyonthwall | Monday, July 29, 2002 - 01:26 am     Has anyone been able to pick up the convo with Eric and Lisa? they are whispering but i heard Josh several times from Amy and about Hoh and put her up as far as my ears could hear. This house is in turmol tonight! I feel a revolt coming to Roddy's House. I think everyone is using Amy's coming out party to get things in perspective...Hopefully! GO JASON!!! |
Susieq | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:02 pm     Could someone fill me in with the details of Jason's response lastnight? I missed the show. Thanks! |
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