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Oregonfire

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it's not a spider bite, then it looks like a boil to me. Some folks are prone to them. A friend of mine got one once out of the blue. Has any other HG had a BB-related illness other years?

Cousin_Jake

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bunyun - I'm with you! I haven't heard a single houseguest ragging on Lisa and how gross this is! If it had been Gerry we would have had hours of childish, meanspirited talk on how he'd better not touch anything they touch or how he's leaking or how he's infecting the toilet etc., etc., etc.! Talk about a double standard. (Not that I think they SHOULD do this to Lisa)

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well you know the pretty people don't pick on the pretty people...Personally I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Theyll say stuff about it if she's evicted though, cuz then she's not one of the populars anymore is she? I know this because it comes from the book 8th grade 101

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, i have another theory on why they are leaving lisa alone...I think that what Earthmother and cousin_Jake were saying is partly true, but I also think that they are leaving her alone because she is OBVIOUSLY not feeling well. I like to think (i know, i know wishful thinking) that if Gerry was feeling as crappy as Lisa they wouldn't bash him behind his back either.Although I don't think they would be as tolerant as they have been with Lisa.
Remember other houseguests made plenty of comments about T's breasts' leaking and she was considered one of the 'pretty' people. I'm sure Tonya was very concerned about that. But she also wasn't feeling as crappy as Lisa is now, so maybe those that made comments about her problem would have laid off if she was really sick with an infection.
Just adding some perspective. I don't think these people are totally heartless!

Vancouvergirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps they all need a lesson in hygiene and cleanliness? (except for germ freak Marcellas).
It would be very easy to get "something" from someone else in the house, especially in a dirty hot tub. She should clean it with a mild saline solution. I think it's totally disgusting for them to be popping each other's zits and shaving each other, etc.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
perhaps they 'justified' to themselves talking about tonya's leakage because she was up for eviction. it seems as if you automatically go down a notch in the rest of the houseguests' opinions, when you are 'one of them' (a nominee) as opposed to one of 'us' (safe until at least the veto). it's as if you are halfway out the door already.
i do think lisa is feeling pretty bad and i also think they would be different if it were gerry, but i would hope not. maybe they would surprise us!

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
absolutely Vancouvergirl, i was thinking of that when I watched them picking zits and stuff...like do they wash their hands before playing with other people's open sores? Might as well just inject the bacteria staph right into you body!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
per live feeds Lisa is in with the Diary Room or the doctor now after a rough night.. so if it is the doctor maybe we will hear more when she emerges.

Keiffer

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why do you guys think that they are avoiding putting Lisa on the live feeds this morning? Are they trying to hide something, or are they just trying to be nice to her, and let her suffer through this without having to do it front ofthe world?

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
darn seamonkey....now i'm gonna have to turn on the feeds...and here I was being so good keeping them off! I'm such a procrastinator.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ok.. it says in the DR with the doctor :)

Goddess146

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The producers seem to be shy about broadcasting this subject over the internet. They have changed the feed several times when Lisa started talking about it.

Are they planning to make Lisa's condition going to be a "TV moment?"

Are they trying to protect the "privacy" of the HGs (who are being paid to be in a "no privacy" situation)?

Bunyun

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps Lisa is feeling ill just for the sympathy. Not just from others, but she is such a "perfect" girl, that any type of owey would make her depressed and ill. Wasn't it Lisa that had the "sore" foot, and now this? Maybe feeling sorry for herself. And wanting others too.
But I doubt seriously that no comments would be made if it was Gerry. They would all jump to the opportunity.
Wasn't it just a couple of days ago someone was making nasty remarks about Gerry and hemeroids? and the ointment showing through his shorts?

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they don't want to make a huge deal about it in case it turns out to be something embarassing and lisa might not want to talk about it. Plus it's respectful..it is her personal medical stuff....confidentiality and all that.

Watcher

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Excessive foaming can also result from other things on the body, such as lotions on the skin, deodorants, perfumes, colognes, hairspray, and SWEAT. That's why it is preferable to take a shower before entering a hot tub if your body isn't free of those things. It just keeps the tub cleaner.

Vancouvergirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
could you imagine the hysterics and outrage if one of the HGs had sex with another and contracted an STD while in the house!!!!!!!
or even worse...... got pregnant?

I bet there has been some sex going on in the house. maybe not all the way intercourse, but lots of closeness with roddy and Chiara, Eric and Lisa.

not to get too far off topic, but just a thought....

Keiffer

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bunyun, that is sort of mean. First she did crush a toe pretty good, and in fact they showed it in the feeds and it went from being purple to yellow. I don't know if she can fake that for attention. Second I don't know how you fake large bumps on your tushy that are getting larger and filling with puss. That is causeing one side of her backside to actually be warmer than the other, and other HG's have confirmed it.

In fact she has played it to be very brave. Whenever anyone asks she says she is doing fine, and feeling better. This when in actuallity half her backside is getting bigger by the day. Heck she isn't even allowing Eric to help as much as he wants.

As for the Gerry thing I disagree a bit more. If he had gotten bitten by something that had the potintial to get him thrown from the game I am sure that even if they didn't mean it the other HG's would give him help.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI, Lisa says she is feeling better today. The pain is a lot better, but it is getting bigger. So, it may have been a bite if it's getting better this fast....or if it's an infection the antibiotics may be kicking in.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa out of DR, Jason said they would tell her something in a couple of hours.

Roddy is going on and on about the perils of being TOO clean and how you don't end up with any immunities (he thinks MarSALLAS, as he pronouces it, would die quickly under bioterrorism).. he is telling Chiara, as they sit in green bathroom chairs. Lisa enters, Roddy asks how she is, etc.
He tells her she can watch Josh shower.. now they are all saying that Dani always leaves the stove or oven on after using it..

oops that was my live feed post personality..

Anyway, Lisa sounds a bit more perky to me.. good thing.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keiffer...i am in complete agreement with you. Lisa hasn't been complaining at all about it. Imagaine if some of the other houseguests who seem to need attention more had been hurt as much as her? I mean chiara had a sore roof of her mouth the other day and was upset that Roddy didn't give enough sympathy for it (and I like chiara!). Imagine the whining we'd hear if it were, josh, chiara, marc, or amy (the people who I think whine the most...nothing against them...just a little whinny)

Vancouvergirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa's owey should be a wake up call to all of them to keep themselves more clean and watch their hygiene. Danielle was right to make note of Gerry not washing his hands - they all should be washing themselves appropriately to avoid any bacterial infections. It is very unfortunate for Lisa to have her illness and suffering displayed for all to see. It would suck to be her right now.

Bunyun

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffler, I didn't say it in a sense of being mean. Maybe I didn't try hard enough to get my point across. Self pity, is a human act. We all at one time or another feel sorry for ourselves. Maybe Lisa is doing the same thing with her bite. I have lots of mosquito bits on me right now that look just like it.
Anyway, my personal opinion is, unless it gets proven differently by the Dr. who is treating Lisa, stands.
Sure, they would help Gerry, but just as quick, they would be bad mouthing him behind his back.

Keiffer

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know I agree that people living together in close areas like this need to be clean to make things comfortable for other HG's. I DO NOT think though that wearing thongs, or washing hands, or picking your nose has anything to do with Lisa's condition. She was diagnosed with a bite... more than likely spider when the doctor first looked at it. Why has that changed? In fact they found a spider in the back yard there last year. Is it so hard to believe that ther might still be a spider around this year?

On that subject I do hope for the producers that she doesnt have to leave the game. She has to be at this moment considered one with a good chance to win, and if she has to leave because of a spider bite, and they knew they had spiders last year and did nothing to fix the problem, then I think they should pay her as though she won.... maybe more because how do you put a price on TV exposure for a pretty girl?

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she came out of the DR yesterday saying that the Dr told her they didn't think it was a bite anymore...that it is something else. Sure seems like a bite tho doesn't it?!

Emt911

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
'A' spider in the back yard last year? I live in California, and we have lots of spiders in the yard, all year long. You can't 'fix the problem'. We have the bug guy come once a month, but spiders can drift on their webs for miles and miles, so you can spray and have news ones arrive by 'airmail' the next day! (Unfortunately, because i hate them and they terrify me!)
But, knowing they had a spider last year doesn't mean they should have to pay her as though she won. We have lots of spiders in California!!
Plus, the doctor did supposedly tell her last night that he didn't think it was a spider bite anymore, as cute said.