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Weinermr

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Funny thing is there ARE people who use language like that in the workplace, and get away with it. I'm personally aware of at least two people - one man, one woman - different areas of the country, different industries, different settings, but use such language every day. No one steps in to stop it, or alter their behavior. I'm not saying it's right, or proper, but I know that it does happen.

Draheid

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

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Dagny Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:24 pm
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Danni is letting the girls know that she is not what she seems. (basically telling them she has a wild side that they aren't seeing in the house)

Danni goes on to tell the girls the picture of her kids aren't real. She picked them up at K-mart. (joke) She is actually a stripper...no make that a Madame. (more jokes)


C-(to Danni) your probably as nasty as me, but not nastier. You are the black me.
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I realize that the poster indicated that most of the conversation at this time was joking, but that's going overboard, IMHO...edited to put the statement into context...still not very appropriate, IMHO

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goodness, gracious - Chiara has a little something to offend everyone today. I wonder if Roddy put her on a mission to get a rise out of Dani so they can go after her next.

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh, god let someone say something to me like this at work. (JUST JOKING) but, seriously, i would be a millionaire within a year, cause they will pay me not to sue. my workplace is 100% non-tolerant of any type of chiara's vocabulary.

Redhalo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not defending Chiara in the least....her mouth is disgusting........but I take it as another aspect of her insecurity and self doubt. The only self worth she sees in herself is her sexuality..albeit gross the things she says. She knows not other way to get attention. It is sickening and whatever stipend she gets.......she needs therapy....no doubt............I wonder if she will hear and see any of the things that she says and does.........and if so.....will she be embarrassed.

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe this thread will help. remember when she said a few wks ago about how she used to take her clothes off all of the time. she used to moon everyone, until she was in college and one of her friends pulled her to the side and told her how inappropriate it ws to do now at her age. she said it was at that ime she stopped doing this.

Earthmother

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think girls like Chiara embarrass easily. I can't help but laugh at the things that offend her they never seem to have anything to do with importance just superficial stuff. Instead of a thread about how many times she's asked to put on her mic we should start one about how many times in the middle of a convo that has nothing to do with her she makes a comment about herself (usually crude). Today when the guys were talking (I can't remember who) about Gerry and some fears they have about where he is coming from she pipes up with "I can't stand him, I think he's after me." I laughed so hard. I wanted to scream at her "Just because a man says good morning to you, doesn't mean he wants you (pathetic)he's just being polite which is obviously something you wouldn't recognize."

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I remember the convo - unfortunately, for whatever reason, within the household she seems to be unable to take any sort of criticism without immediately going into counter-attack mode. Remember the "Joseph and Mrs. Potiphar" episode the other night? Maybe when she's out (and hopefully someone will prepare for her a highlight reel of her most vulgar moments) she'll take the opportunity to reflect on the objectionable aspects of her behavior. Unfortunately, I think by then the damage will have been done (if it hasn't already - does this girl have a boss? I'd be very concerned about employing her in any capacity).

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the situation depends on this one. She seems to take criticism from Roddy well on occasion, especially when he is browbeating her in front of everyone. She also had a lot of patience during the whole "why did you tell everyone we kissed/you are too demanding" session with Roddy. Even though she rattled off a list of situations that Roddy had put himself in that were more embarassing than a 3-second kiss, I think she was entitled in that case. But otherwise I would agree--she's touchy about criticism, and I don't see how she couldn't understand that her crude comments makes others uncomfortable. It's so obvious. And it seems to me that the HGs who require the most "work" are the ones put on a hit list.

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She's just really starting to make me sad, Oregon. Some people have to live their lives dealing with the fact that they're their own worst enemies, and she increasingly strikes me as someone who may have that struggle. Who knows, maybe she's a completely different human being in any other environment. I hope so for her sake.

Earthmother

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess there is hope for everyone. I sometimes feel I'm being too judgemental because I didn't grow up with brothers, and being a Navy brat my dad was gone a lot so it was just the girls. Mom was from the South and living there girls were expected to behave like ladies. I don't think expected behaviors have changed as much over the centuries as we would like to believe. Having nothing but sons myself I seem to be very tolerant of their potty mouth behavior and that of their male friends, but cringe when I hear women talk that way. My son had a girlfriend who could swear and covort as good as his friends, but he found it distateful coming from her. My nephew, who is very liberal, always talked about total equality(what's good for guys is good for girls), then all of a sudden he is the dad of a young girl and I start to see the puritan come out. I just think it's easy to say it should be the same but I'm not so sure we have come to that jucture.

Costacat

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
There is something seriously wrong with this girl (I refuse to call her a woman). Danielle is helping Roddy clean up/pack up the HOH room. Chiara comes in (of course!) and asks if she can interrupt. I missed what Roddy said to her, but I guess he asked her what she was doing. Because she HAD to go into detail as to what she just did changing her t@mpon. I mean, hello?

More and more this girl is just plain gross. I'm gonna apologize up front to your Chiara lovers, but this girl has about as much class as, well, she doesn't.

Pulk

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara enters HoH room where Dani is helping Roddy clear his stuff out of there.

Roddy asks where Chiara has been...

Chiara: I've been removing my bloody tampon, i had to stick my fingers up inside myself (holds to fingers up close together) and pull out the filthy bloody tampon.

Kaili

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, too much information I'm sure for anyone in the house! That's something that people just don't need to know. Maybe she thinks she's funny. Or, you know how sometimes people try and act "cool" and "tough" by behaving very extremely?

Maybe chiara feels that she needs to talk like that in order to be accepted by the guys, assuming that they would rather be around a girl who isn't too prissy. Chiara talks so openly about everything related to sexual/body functions and she has been portrayed as a "guys girl" whereas Amy is portrayed as prudish/prissy.

Abigail1970

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ewwwwww!! I think she is just plain immature. I don't think she is malicious or anything but very immature.
I feel bad for her. But she has time to grow up.

Crossfire

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
More importantly, since we already know she can be disgusting at times, did anyone else react appropriately?

Pulk

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, Roddy kinda laughed it off and joked back to her about it. Danielle never said a word and looked as though she was trying hard to keep a straight face and not react to the comments.

Its a pity they dont have psychologists on the show anymore as i would love to see them analyse some of Chiara's behaviour.

Earthmother

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did she really have to take her shirt completely off last night? Did she really have to make the display while Lisa was rubbing lotion on her back? No!! This IMO was trying to tease him into doing exactly that. She wants what Lisa has and I think she equates sex with love. On many occasions he has had to tell her that his father may be watching and maybe that keeps him from taking her up on it. I do think Roddy has self respect and respect for his family. He is only human and I think if he had the chance she would be out of his bed, not because he doesn't like her but because it's too hard for him not to give in. (we all know men are horndogs...lol)

Katrina

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, Pulk, yeah! This is right up Dr. Drew's alley! He has lots of experience with adolescent sexual acting out! (Reference his radio program and the former MTV "Loveline" show.)

Marameko

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She should feel so ashamed when she views the tapes. Don't think she will get any positive public attention later.......Roddy the psuedo intellect better lose this girl fast.
She is the poster gurl for TACKY,TACKY, TACKY

Theowl

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After that comment (Pulks post), Richard is probably telling Chi to take her microphone off.

Sisalou

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Want to throw my in. Did ya'll happen to catch the live feed post when Chiara was telling Lisa "If my dad is watching this he is saying look at that fat f***." They happened to be sunbathing the time.

I just thought it was really sad that her dad would say something like that. I know I am speculating here but I think she may not know any better. She probably has no clue how offensive it is. I think she likes to shock people but doesn't realize what kind of impression she sends out.

Perhaps when she gets out of the house one of her friends will point this out to her.

Kaili

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Unless her friends really aren't any better...

Was she saying her dad would say that about her, or was Gerry by some chance in the area and she was just commenting on what her dad might say about him?

Earthmother

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She admitted last night that she is hasn't really had many consequences in her life. When she wasn't being a good girl with the car daddy bought her he took it away, did he make her walk? NO he just gave her an ugly car...poor thing. That's like sending your kid to their room where they have use of a phone, a tv, a stereo, video games, etc. and them telling them "that'll teach ya". Teach em what?

Max

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I saw that. She said her dad is single and is a womanizer (I think that's what she called him if memory serves -- at least that's the meaning I got out of it) and that he tells her she is fat.

I thought it was pretty sad since she is about as far from fat as I am from the moon! Of course, it could be another one of her "stories" said for effect. She's readily admitted to other HGs that she makes things up.