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Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
you're right sunriver....you also got to the symptoms of herpes before I could post! like minds I guess.....
It is fun to speculate isn't it....we all obviously feel bad for her tho.

Misslibra

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Cute, and thank you for saying it!

Justin42

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fly-- it was on the camera and looked like a pretty common spider around these parts. It was probably tiny, just looked huge on the lens due to the angle.

Wyndie

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I can tell you that I had a spider bite on my leg many years ago and it looked JUST like that screen shot - really nasty blisters. Really, really nasty and it hurt like he11. I feel so badly for her not knowing what is going on and not feeling well. :(

Flyonthwall

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Justin, I knew I saw that somewhere!

Well I just hope she gets to feeling better quickly! No one deserves to go thru what she has so far, expecially while on TV! UGH!
{{{Lisa}}}}
and {{{WYndie}}} Ouch! That sounds really painful for you! Hope I don't have that again either!
I hate creepy crawlies!

Sunriverose

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I do really feel badly for Lisa. I know how patients feel when they don't know what is wrong and doctors suddenly start doing all kinds of tests and issue warnings. (like "use seatcovers")

Docs have to over-caution patients in order to not be sued, particularly when the patient is on national television.

If it is a bite of some type, specifically a black widow, she should begin feeling better by tomorrow morning. Do we know if she has been given any antiobiotics?

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sunriverose - Doing all kinds of tests and issuing all kinds of warnings is called CYA medicine...

CYA means Cover Your Ass.

Hypermom

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel sorry for her being isolated from the rest of the hg's and feeling like crud.

At least Eric keeps checking in on her.

Tracy

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't have any medical background but can't help wondering why a doctor would recommend toilet covers. Bug bites aren't contagious, are they?

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard (or read) that she was given something in the DR yesterday but that is unconfirmed.
Using the seat covers may also be for her own protection....prevent infection. It's in an area that comes into contact with some dirty places and thats an open sore....wouldn't want any more of an infection!

Bbrules4ever

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
could it be SHINGLES?

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
People: It COULD be the Hawiian Pineapple flu for all we know. The doctor will tell her tomorrow!

Sunriverose

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeppers, they sure otta give her some of them "antiobiotics" :) Sorry.

Flyonthwall

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
THANK YOU Cute for pointing that out!
Maybe it is for HER protection NOT to protect others from HER!

Now that was an excellent observation!

I do remember her saying they gave her something from the DR too. But not sure what it was.
I know she's was taking Advil or Aleve. Eric cautioned her about taking to many in a short amount of time last night.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or they may be taking tests, and using procautions because they don't know what it is. Believe or not, the medical profession is not always out to protect themselves. I've seen this approach in canada too where the incidents of suing dr's and nurses is much less.

They may not have swabbed it because it might not be 'leaking' anything. The blood test will tell many things such as if there has been cell damage (certain enzymes show) if there is any organ involvment (checking liver enzymes) and probably other tests one might do to check indicators that she may have been bitten.
My guess is that if a spider bite is suspected and if antibiotics are indicated for spider bites (i don't know for sure) then they probably started her on some just in case.

Puck1021

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the seat covers would be more for Lisa's benefit and safety then the other Hg's since they have said she is not contagious. Males including this one (ask My ex...LOL...) are notorious for being bad aimers especially at night. With the seat covers and M's supply of 90% alcohol I think she would be safe from further infection.

Texastillie

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The precaution is probably for the benefit of everyone. Even medical professionals use rubber gloves when dealing with open sores, etc.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
its called universal percautions......you treat everyone like they could be infected with something that could harm you.

Texastillie

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, Cute. Lisa has an open sore with blisters and infection. And even though she probably does not have a communicable disease, they probably do not want to expose the other HGs to those fluids.

Danielle

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric is soooooooooo sweet with isn't he!! LOVE is in the air for those two .. and think they make a cute couple .. Better then Shannon and Will and Chiara and Roddy!

Spunky

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it's contagious we'll find out soon enough. I'm surprised the doctor ruled out a bite from a spider. Another possibility (I read that somewhere else) is folliculitis (infected boil) which she may have caught it in the hot tub...
I now rule out Lime disease..

Well, poor Lisa, she'll suffer for a while or she may be pulled out of the game..

Dedonjo

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just FYI to set the record straight, (and certainly NOT to imply anything about what Lisa might be suffering from), symptoms such as naseau, headache, tiredness etc. - general flu-like symptoms - are experienced even with recurrent outbreaks of herpes. It's a lot worse with the initial outbreak. I have herpes, and I generally know when I'm having an outbreak before I notice the blisters appearing because I experience those flu-like symptoms for a couple days prior. I know someone else who also experiences the same mild flu-like symptoms with outbreaks of herpes. The initial breakout can be like a really bad flu, I was really, really sick in bed for a week the first time.

Important to make sure that info cited is current - even 7 years is a long time past for a disease that is relatively "new" and still being researched and learned about...:)

I do hope that whatever Lisa has going on, that they figure it out for her and can make it go away soon so she has the energy to mentally stay in the game. I feel bad for her having something like this happen so publicly, whatever it may be.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
thanks dedonjo....personal exeperience is always the best...my book is only 5 years but could be incomplete (not a whole lot said on it), I just looked in another book and it includes the symptoms you described (fever, malaise, and lack of appetite) i will point out however she hasn't experienced itching (to my knowledge) and that is also a major symptom (or at least thats what the books say). There is also only one leison, which is also uncommon in herpes.
I like learning new things....I agree tho we should be careful about 'diagnosing' and making assumptions...again..poor lisa...i'm glad they are keeping the cameras off her tonight...give her what privacy she can have just to feel crappy.

Dedonjo

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, Cute, itches like the devil!

I think she should get her teddy bear back.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
uh oh....that sucks....god..i'm seriously hoping for her sake thats not what it is! Please be a bug bite, please be a bug bite!