Archive through August 01, 2002
The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: "If Gerry puts up one of us four he is Fried!":
Archive through August 01, 2002
Poser | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:08 pm     Quote:Gerry has made deals with Roddy and Josh already. My guess would be Chiara and Eric.
I agree, with Lisa as a backup.
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Eden | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:10 pm     Since when does Gerry's "debt" to Roddy extend to include Chiara?!? I've heard that mentioned more than once. Personally, I think anyone stupid enough to think that any agreement in this house is binding deserves to be chagrined with surprise when they find themselves nominated. It's a GAME!! You have to play advantages and weaknesses. We all know Roddy wouldn't have offered the "deal" to Gerry if he had any true intention of ousting him in the first place. Nominate Roddy and Eric and let's get this GAME started! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:13 pm     He should nominate Roddy and Eric.....if anyone uses the veto, then he should replace that vetoed person with the remaining nominated guy's girlfriend. We know that if Rod and Eric were nommed and Lisa got the veto, she'd veto Eric rather than Roddy. The opposite is true if Chia won the veto power....she'd save Roddy. If anyone other than Lisa or Chia got the veto power...the final noms will still either be: Roddy and Eric Roddy and Chiara Eric and Lisa One of those four would be outta there. I hope Gerry does the math and does the smart thing. That is, of course, unless next week's big surprise screws it all up. I'd hate to see the "outsiders " finally get a chance to even things out and then have a new twist that throws the leverage back to the "pretty people"! |
Eden | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:22 pm     I totally agree, SanFran!!! |
Poser | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:24 pm     Gerry is motivated to be honorable. It's a dumb motivation, but he really seems to think he's been put on earth to act honorably in this stupid game. He will keep his word. He won't nominate Roddy. But... I could be wrong (please)!
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Wcv63 | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:27 pm     Poser then he should "honor" his alliance with Dani and Jason and put Roddy up. There is honor and integrity in that action! |
Gouraphik | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:27 pm     I'd prefer that Gerry put up Eric and Lisa, and amend the deals with Roddy, Josh, and Marcellas. Why Eric and Lisa? So that if you can't touch Roddy (due to the damned deal), you leave Chiara in the house as an albatross for him. Chiara is a liability for Roddy. As long as he's around, she should be there too. Roddy's deal should be amended so that for Gerry to spare him, he must promise not to use the Veto if he wins it. It's tricky, since Roddy may well use it in order to save Eric and put Chiara in jeopardy. It would also be wise to make sure that Roddy prevents Chiara from using it if she wins the Veto. If she does, Gerry should make it perfectly clear that Roddy would be up in Eric or Lisa's place. Gerry has to figure out a way to make it not worth it for Roddy himself to use the Veto, though...I can't think of a juicy reason or compelling threat just yet. Josh's deal should be much the same, unless Gerry is willing to be sneaky and define the deal as regarding original nominations only, and not Veto noms. If so, he could ask Josh to use the Veto if he wins, and pull out Lisa, so that Gerry can throw Roddy up and have him ousted. It'd be very dirty, but it could work...unless Josh screws it up, or blabs it to Roddy, which is a distinct possibility. The Marcellas deal could be similar to the alternate Josh deal. Marcellas is a better choice to do this, since he would benefit from Roddy's demise as well. He's also way less likely to blab to Roddy or any Core Four member about it. Gerry will have to do a lot of gameplaying and Joshesque "honoring" of deals. If he plays his cards right, he could get rid of Roddy. Whether the remaining 3 Core Four members or the Clique (Marcellas, Danielle, and Jason) would let him last long enough to win the game is quite another and is outside the scope of this analysis. |
Poser | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:28 pm     Quote:then he should "honor" his alliance with Dani and Jason and put Roddy up. There is honor and integrity in that action!
I missed an aliance between Gerry, Dani and Jason to put Roddy up. When did he make that? |
Jadeygurl39 | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:30 pm     I agree with you SanfranJosh  |
Bmh | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:30 pm     Ok just to make it official Gerry just told Josh Lisa is up..but he isn't sure if the other nominee should be Eric or chiara..he is trying to decide |
Earthmother | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:31 pm     I look at it this way if he puts up Roddie and Eric the girls will start playing emotionally not strategically. They will both catfight for the power of veto and there is only a one in 5 chance for each. If one of them does happen to win then you put up the other girlfriend. It really doesn't matter then who stays those girls will not be able to get over what the other one did to them. Both of these girls are spent on these guys and I just don't see the guys that committed. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:33 pm     Well Poser perhaps the D/C/J alliance wasn't to specifically put up Roddy. But it should be! |
Deirpg | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:35 pm     Gouraphik, you were made to play this game! I enjoyed your explanation there. I would be thrilled if Gerry put up 2 of the 4 - someone there needs to go home. I'm so glad Gerry won. It's sweet payback for everyone being so rotten to him last week. I think he's a tad bit annoying too, but they have really ostracized him for no good reason. |
Ryn | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:40 pm     God I am liking this more and more..... this week is going to be FUN!!! unlike last week when the outcome was known, this week will have lots of twists and backstabbing and on and on...... (or course, as I put on my moderators cap, I shake my head because emotions on the board are going to run wild and the potential for bashing just increased 10 fold..... ) |
Amac | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:49 pm     Whoever posted that Gerry should nominate Roddy and Eric--and if one of them is vetoed, nominate his girlfriend--was right on. I posted this earlier, but we need to remember how Will in BB2 made promises to others he had no hesitation in breaking, and how far in the game that took him. I wonder if Gerry has the balls to do this. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:58 pm     From what I saw....Gerry's only deal with Roddy was "to owe him one". He never specifically said he wouldn't nominate Roddy. Heck, he could nominate Roddy and Eric and tell Roddy that he paid his debt by not nominating Roddy's girlfriend, Chiara! Of course, the more I think about it, the more I believe that Gerry will do something really stupid. If he tries to get rid of Lisa or Chiara by putting them up, he'll have Roddy, Eric, and Danielle mad at him. (Three votes is a majority after the next eviction!) The smart thing is to break up the solid "Powers-of-2"...but Gerry isn't really known for doing the "smart" thing. |
Cyn | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:59 pm     gerry can't put up both of the girls. if he did, he would have to realize that everyone would then think he is a woman hater. he's gotta be torn between roddy and eric. there's no other choice. he has to see this. he has to! like i said in another post: i haven't had this much fun with tv since mork threw the egg in the air and said, "Be Free! Be Free!" |
Bmh | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:00 pm     Gerry told Josh that he isn't gonna put up 2 girls he said 1 girl will be up for sure..Im bettin it's Eric and Lisa...Eric will go if those are the nominees |
Moedog | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:01 pm     Oooo.. this is exciting! I'd like to see Gerry put Eric and Chiara up. It'd force Roddy to choose between them which could hurt him bigtime if he makes it to the final vote (NO!). Gerry would keep his promise to Roddy about not putting him up. If Lisa or Josh got the veto power and used it to remove Eric or Chiara, then Gerry could put Roddy up... he never promised to save him TWICE. heehee If Jason got the veto power in this scenario, would he save Chiara? |
Dagny | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:04 pm     I think it should be Chiara and Erik. I think that would be the most fun. It would be interesting to see the couple's campaign against each other...or maybe not. Maybe the boys will show their true alliance to each other....and vice versa the girls. I also wanted to point out that Josh and Gerry need each other at this point, if they are really thinking about winning the game. Who else would they stand a chance against when it comes to the jury? (they are both almost equally disliked) |
Bmh | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:06 pm     Gerry did say he thought about putting Chiara and Eric up together..that would be crazy Because how would Lisa and Roddy vote?..I think Lisa would vote out her boyfriend and Roddy would vote out his girlfriend if it came down to that |
Ryn | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:07 pm     Cyn... he said "Fly, be free" (I like that quote too) Hmmmm - would rather see chiara squirm..... Sorry, I feel like she has walked around the house without feeling any pressure. Eric has had a little with the veto, Lisa had tons with the 1st HoH. Chiara needs a turn. but alas, I think it will be Eric and Lisa as well. Rather see Eric and Chiara |
Amac | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:08 pm     BTW, if anyone gets a screen cap of the other HGs, particularly the "four," kissing Gerry's butt this week, please post it. That's an image I'd like to frame. |
Dagny | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:08 pm     And if Chiara was up...it would be so fun to watch her hound Roddy about winning the vito...and then watching him throw it...because he probably wouldn't use it!! Oh I love this week! |
Ryn | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:09 pm     bmh? why would that be crazy? we could watch em pitted against each other, and the vote would be interesting. |
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