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Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone know any details? She just told Eric she was queasy and tired.

Lauram

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe she is pregnant!!

Cyn

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the DR told her earlier that they believe it is a black widow spider bite. she saw a doctor and gave her medicine.

Wcv63

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it is a black widow spider bite shouldn't she be hospitalized?

Curlyq

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I take it they never actually found the spider? Reading through a list of the symptoms, it sounds like even with medicine she'd be in for a rough couple of days. I hope it doesn't bite anyone else.

Didn't Shannon find a black widow at that house last summer?

Bmh

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes..Curly ur right..she did I remember that..and Will called her a black widow..haha..maybe it's the same spider..gezz if only Shannon killed it last year Lisa wouldn't be in this mess

Katrina

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Poor Lisa.... as if the venomous human predators in the house aren't bad enough!

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shannon wouldn't let them kill it.

Earthmother

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it had bit Shannon it would have died..

Bmh

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol no Ryan I remember Shannon wanted to kill it..but Will wouldn't let her..because he is a animal lover remember??

Sanfranjoshfan

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63 - I recently saw a spider documentary on the Discovery channel....they commented that Black Widow spiders aren't nearly as dangerous as most people think....that it is really very very rare for anyone to actually die from one, that a lot more people die from bee stings.

Did they ever determine that it actually was a black widow...or is that still just an assumpton?

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, so I had it bassackwards.

Wcv63

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa sure does seem to be having some problems in that house. She broke her toe and got bit by a spider. I'm not even going to talk about the other vipers in the nest!

Bmh

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is just a assumption that Lisa was bitten by a black widow

my brother was bitten by a black widow and he was given antibotics and he was okay in about a day..but I remember he was really tired and felt sick..and it looks like Lisa is expressin the same symptons..so by tomrrow night she should be okay..they really aren't that serious

Misslibra

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They should remove all the linens from all the beds in that room and take them outside and give them a good shake. I think they should also clean under the beds, and clothes laying around should be shaken out. I wouldn't be able to sleep in the room myself without that room getting a good going over.

Cyn

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
just looked up symptoms and this is what i came up with:

According to Willia Gertsch, curator of spiders at the American Museum of Natural History, New York, the venom of the black widow spider is 15 times as toxic as the venom of the prairie rattlesnake. However, only a minute amount of the toxin is injected with a single bite by the spider, while the relatively large amount of injected rattlesnake venom results in about 15 to 25 percent mortality among those bitten.

The severity of a person's reaction to the bite depends on the area of the body bitten, amount of venom injected, depth of bite, seasonal changes and temperature. The bite feels like a pin prick or is not even felt. At first, there may be only slight local swelling and two faint red spots surrounded by local redness at the bite. Pain becomes intense in one to three hours and may continue up to 48 hours. Pain usually progresses from the bitten member up or down the arm or leg, finally localizing in the abdomen and back. The abdominal muscles may become rigid and board-like with severe cramps (resembles appendicitis). There may be pain in the muscles and soles of the feet, and eyelids may become swollen. Other symptoms may be nausea, profuse perspiration, tremors, labored breathing and speech, and vomiting. During this time, a feeble pulse, cold clammy skin, unconsciousness, convulsions and even death may result if the victim does not receive medical attention immediately. Additional complications may occur due to the infection of the bite. However, with some untreated individuals, symptoms may diminish in several hours and be gone in several days after agony. Bites are uncommon and serious long-term complications or death are rare. Only four deaths were officially attributed to black widow bites in the United States from 1960-69.

so, yeah, i don't think that's what it was.
hopefully, any way. i don't wanna see that kinda stuff.

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
People assume that black widows are killers, could that come from not having the ability to combat the bite back in the day?

Misslibra

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they were killers back in the day without the proper treament. Now we have all kinds of miracle drugs.

Bmh

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
From the info Cyn gave us..it seems like Lisa has some of the symptons..I mean she said she felt queasy and tired..and she was developing a red blotch on her butt

Meggieprice

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was wondering myself when Lisa took to her bed...hope they are keeping close tabs on her.

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Miss, Lisa and Eric did wash their bed stuff today out in yard. It was kinda cute because Lisa said she was not sleeping in that bed again unless something was done, and just a few minutes later Eric was out there helping her get that stuff washed.

They did find a spider last year, and had to go into lockdown after Will caught it so they could get it out of the house. For sure they have a problem there, and if she gets truly sick they may have problems. FOr sure they could have forseen there being a problem with spiders since they found them there before. Maybe they could have called the Orkin man?

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW: Eric must be getting lots of brownie points right now. Lisa is sick, in a lockdown outside with a drunk Amy talking their ears off. He is just sitting there through it even though he could leave the girls alone. GOOD JOB ERIC.


PS: THink the lockdown is for them to spary for deadly spiders?

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa looks really sick right now, poor girl, and Amy is going on and on with some drunken story. The house is out of wack this evening.

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric if he has any feelings for Lisa should pick her up, and carry her to bed.

Cute1073

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
keiffer, He already put her to bed once tonight but she didn't want to go to sleep. Eric is being really sweet and hanging out with her trying to make her feel better.