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Lilacs04

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is anyone else noticing this?? The editing makes Amy look like a stick-in-the-mud and Chiara like the loveable "bad" girl. Anyone who's seen (or read about) the live feeds knows this isn't the case. Why didn't they show Jason's reaction? Why just Amy? *Sigh*

And yes, I dislike <> intensely.

Trulyscrumtious

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The editing in this show is something else man. Not only are they painting Amy as some kinda freak and Chiapet as the All American Girl (yeah RIGHT!). But now I just seen them show a clip of Eric's DR entry about how the girls are over emotional. During the clip they showed some examples of the girls spats that included a quick shot of Danielle outside rubbing her eyes with her head down, looking as if she was about to cry (or blow) outta frustration.

But I was watching that night and she was outside PRAYING for crying out loud! Is nothing sacred to these people?!? Completely unbelievable that they would take a shot of Danielle praying to God for the strength she needs to get through this game, and pervert it like this.

Sickening. smash

Stargazer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hated how they just put the positive comments of the other HG's of Chia's actions on the show. They did not show Jason and they certainly didn't show any of her outragious comments re: Jason either. I'm glad they showed some of it but they sure edited it to make it not look so bad. On a happier note, they did make Amy out tonight ok so that she has nothing to be embarrassed about when she gets out.

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maybe cause most of what chiara says on the live feeds would be an FCC violation if it were on the old fashioned tv.

Bigbrotherbelle

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I definitely noticed this too. It makes me sorely tempted to only watch the live shows. The rest are fiction.

Missy2

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was sad to see how horrible Amy is being painted. :(

On a good note I enjoyed hearing about the Dani/Jay alliance :)

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
At first I was impressed that they were actually showing a small sampling of her real behavior, but when they turned it around to look like Amy was the one with the problem I just gave up all hope.

At least they did balance things out a little by choosing not to show Amy all tipsy after that dinner. But I didn't like the way they cut that dinner scene up so that it looked like Marcellas never said a word while Amy ran on and on in a monologue. I really had the impression from the live feed posters that their conversation was two-way that night.

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe the haters on this board do not appreciate how slanted their view of Chiara has been, and that when showed on TV they wake up to the fact that it isnt bothering other HG's like it bothers them. In my opnion Chiara got the short end of the editing stick tonight.

Amy was never show doing the things that cause every person in that house including her to think that she is selfish. They didn't show her drunken show the night of the date. Didn't show how annoying she was in that talk with Roddy repeating the same thing so ofthen that Roddy had to tell her over an over that she was not a bad person, but if you say it again you will be.

They did however show almost a whole segment of Chiara talking about a foursome, orgasm, flashing, and about 6 other things.

WINNER: AMY

Lilacs04

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And isn't CBS the "family network"? I'd think they'd have the perfect opportunity to showcase Jason with his "old-fashioned" values rebuffing Chiara.

Orwellsvision

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that Amy was shown in a negetive light on tonight's (Wednesday's) show, but I don't think Chiara came off as either a "loveable bad girl" or an "All-American girl", as was suggested in earlier posts. In fact, I thought she came off as pretty sleazy, possibly portrayed even worse than Amy...

But then.. I can't stand Chiara and have a soft spot for Amy, so I'm probably biased!

Lilacs04

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer--so you thought it is just fine and normal the way Chiara relentlessy bullies Jason? They showed about a tenth of how she really behaves...

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps showing Jason "rebuffing" CHiara wasn't an option... he seems most of the time to flirt right back to her. I have noticed though that they never never show Jason giving opnions about other HG's on the TV show. WHich if he makes it to the final two gives him a huge advantage.

Also ABC might be the family network from TGIF in yesteryear, to being owned by Disney.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, they followed that segment up with Chiara saying it's all just talk and then made it look like Amy was just "narrow-minded" for not enjoying it. Amy definitely wasn't the winner there.

Personally, I think it's out of line to call people "haters" when they don't share your opinion. I don't hate anyone, but I quickly lose respect for people who don't show respect for themselves or others.

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lilac... say Chiara "bullies" poor little defenseless Jason who couldn't defend himself to save his life 10% of all the time she is in there. Well she got almost an entire segment devoted to her being crass in the house. She because the didn't choose examples that you like does not mean that they didn't expose her behavior.

I still think Amy won the editing war tonight.

Hippyt

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The haters on this board??? Chill out there my friend! There are no 'haters' here,we're discussing editing. As far as I can see,there was no real "winner." Neither one of them was portrayed in a great light tonight. It's TV,if they were nice and boring,we wouldn't watch.

Orwellsvision

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When the editors switched between shots of Kiki talking about her sexuality and Amy sitting alone, I thought Amy just looked uncomfortable with the conversation... and was not necessarily portrayed as "narrow minded" because of it.

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alright, I stand corrected... forget about the haters thing. Perhaps detractors? Very vocal detractors? Those will work for me.

I might be slanted as much as the Amy supporters are in their blind devotion to everything Amy when it comes to supporting Chiara, but I just did not get the thing about "made it look like Amy was just "narrow-minded" for not enjoying it". The truth is that Chiara more than the one time she said that about just acting, and not really being like that. For sure you would give Chiara a chance to defend herself as much as Amy got with the self revalation thing about understanding that it is her own fault, and that she had been selfish?

Halfunit

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget - you have to mentally erase everything you have seen or read here before you can even think about how someone was portrayed. It's not easy to do as we have all formed some sort of opinion about each of the houseguests.

cop

Tabbyking

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i haven't watched the show yet, but i have learned keiffer and i are usually worlds apart on how we feel about chiara! we have agreed to disagree about her. he likes her. i don't.

however, i do feel if chiara made the effort to defend herself as much as she makes the effort to offend others, she would be more likeable.

Lilacs04

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think I'm blind to Amy's faults but I DO think it's unfair to edit everyone else saying they think Chiara is lighthearted, sweet, funny, etc. and make it appear as though Amy is the only one who thinks Chiara is crass. Jason DID finally stand up for himself when Chiara just couldn't seem to grasp the fact that her graphic sex talk just makes him uncomfortable and not aroused as she hopes. Maybe it's hard (no pun intended) for me to like someone who tells someone she'd suck his .... and then get offended when he tells her that he doesn't think they should sleep in the same bed because it doesn't look right.

Aerojunki

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did you ever think we may be the HAMSTERS in the cage & they are reading all this & voting us off..LOL!

Aerojunki

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok..Stop throwing things at me..I'm going to bed! (S)

Night All!

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Halfunit, that is a great point. I don't think that either Amy loyalists, or the one or two Chiara fans could possibly see the show as being fair. We all already are convinced we are right, and a hour show will never change our minds. Mich like Presidential debates... people just see what they want to see on both sides.

Earthmother

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't care for either one of them but the shows have definately favored Chiara and portrayed her aa a light hearted chick loved by all except Amy. They have on the other hand portrayed Amy as a sharp-tongued prude with wit. Amy has also been shown more than once drunk while Chiara has yet to be shown interruping every convo to get the focus on her. They haven't shown her whiny little fits when she's not getting attention either. Nor have the facial reactions of the other hgs to her comments been shown effectively. So to me there is a bias.

Mystery

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, great, we get to see the word "haters" again.