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Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FYI.. in Southern California black widow spiders are common as dirt, almost. I saw one in my patio just last week. We do get brown recluse and violin spiders but they are pretty rare.

As I heard Lisa describe it they never saw a spider. She put on a pair of pants that had been drycleaned and put in the drawer and the pants were irritating that area and she discovered the "bite" or bump.

She'd also been tired prior to that and had mentioned a number of times that she was bruising easily too.

I hope they can diagnose something and treat it easily. It is absolutely NO fun being sick in a strange place and specially in what is a pretty tense, sometimes hostile environment, where the slightest "problem" can be used as a rationalization for sending you home.

Eric's doing a good job of supporting her.

Marcellasfan

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to add to Seamonkey about Black Widow spiders in So. Cal. They are very common here but are shy and not very aggressive. They tend to stay in dark places like garages, eaves, etc. Recluses are not common and are even more 'reclusive'.

Whatever is wrong with Lisa, I hope it's not serious and she can get up and running soon.

Cousin_Jake

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 04:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry that Lisa is hurting and isn't feeling well. However, I must say that NOBODY in the house is making snide comments about having to use seat covers in the bathroom or Lisa's leaking fluids or any other such gross stuff. How nice. Can you imagine what they'd be saying if it had happened to Gerry? I'm not saying I'm a big gerry fan, but man, they have said some pretty mean things about him. The other day Eric was telling everyone that he had never seen Gerry take a shower. Gee .... maybe if he got up before 2 pm he would have seen it!

Ginap

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She could have an abcess. I had some about 10 years ago and they are painful as hell and suck the life right out of you. They do have a tendency to pop up in that area too. Here is a definition I found on line because I can't describe it properly


An Abcess forms when pus accumulates in a localized area of the body. An abcess is caused by infection from bacteria, viruses, parasites, and fungi. The infection becomes swollen, tender and inflamed and there may be associated fever and chills. An abcess can be the result of an injury, and it can be internal or external. Some abcesses are removed through surgery.


Considering how dirty things are around that house and that they can't possibly be able to wash stuff properly with that ringer I think this might be the problem.

Ddr1135

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank God Marci brought so many bottles of the good rubbing alcohol, he'll be on toilet cleaning alert! I had a spider bite me in the middle of the night in my bed about 10 years ago, got sick to my stomach, skaking, feverish. Spot was hot to the touch, itched, was swollen, etc. For about 30 minutes I thought I was going to die. BUT I was so very grateful that the spider hadn't bitten my two year old sleeping on the side of me.

Alaginger

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if nothing else, this thread has sure been an education for a lot of us! I sure hope it is something that can be treated quickly and that Lisa gets to stay in the game.

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe it's a boil.

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry just woke up..uhhh who is a boil?

Ocean_Islands

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She also could have gotten a nick, and then caught an infection in the hot tub.

Victoriafla

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really hope she feels better.I don't have a clue as to what it is, but from the picture it looks painful, poor girl.

Kissysmom

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ocean Islands..

That's my guess too.

If she had a nick, or a pimple and popped it, she could EASILY have picked up an infection there..

ESPECIALLY since we all know that Tonya was in that hot tub quite frequently with an oozing breast.

Eww eww eww!

Spunky

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wasn't Lisa squeezing someone's pimples???

If the doctor ruled out a spider's bite, then it's an infected boil, but it looked more like a nasty insect bite to me...

I hope she'll feel better soon...

Floridagirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It surprises me that the doctor doesn't even know what it is? Maybe they should bring Will back in? hehe
I hope she gets over it soon to...she, Amy, Marc and Jason are my favorites:)

Ark

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Floridagirl, I'm not surprised that the Dr. doesn't know what it is. My daughter had a rash that started out looking similar to the one in the picture. Her Dr. was out of town so I had to take her to another Dr. He diagnosed it as poison ivy and sent us home. It continued to get worse, so I took her back and he gave her a steroid creme to put on it. When her regular Dr. got back in town, we went to see her and she immediately said that she thought it was lime disease and did a blood test. She was correct.

I really doesn't look like a boil to me. It looks more like a lime rash or spider bite. Whatever it is, I hope they figure it out this morning and start treating her accordingly. I feel very badly for her. It's very unnerving to have something like that on you and not know what it is.

Sabbatia

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with Ark, it doesn't look like a boil to me. Speaking as someone that is prone to staph infections and just got over folliculitis, Lisa needs a way to wash her bedclothes, undies and anything else that touches that spot in very hot water. Whatever it is, it's obviously infected and this is common proceedure to keep from spreading it to other parts of the body.

I feel sorry for her, but I'm glad the others aren't being nasty about it. It's miserable having something like that and not knowing what it is.

Floridagirl

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This may sound gross but with hot tubs you have to be very careful about the chemicals. If someone tinkles in it you can break out in a horrible rash...it happened to my husband and I. I only brought this up b/c I've heard many times from the HG's that the tub was foamy...which to me means it's far from clean.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ark I'm with you. As I type this a dear friend of mine, an older woman who is like a surrogate Mom to me, is in the hospital. She has been for almost a week. She has a bizzarre rash, bruises, burning and a slew of other symptoms and so far they can't pinpoint anything. And she is in the hospital having a battery of tests done.

Also they may need to bring in a specialist for Lisa, and to do that they might need to narrow down what she has, be it a some type of bite, virus, infection and so forth.

I really feel for her. Bad enough she is on TV and with strangers, but think what most everyone does when they are sick. Curl up in front of the TV and veg. Laying alone feeling lousy sure can't be much fun. And Eric seems to be the only one I've seen really showing her kindness and caring (I'm telling you the way he has treated Lisa has me totally rethinking him).

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
i think some of the foam may have been from people going in with clothes they handwashed. it is hard to get all the soap out of them. well, i'd like to think some of the foam was from soap!
also, lisa's sore could be from contact dermititis from soap not rinsed well out of her pants, etc. she does wear thongs, so her jeans would be right on her buttocks.

Woodpecke®

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
144 posts about a bug bite.....This is amazing!!!!! I definitely need to get my tan darker and enjoy the summer more.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok...FYI hot tubs get foam. It is the nature of the beast. It has nothing to do with nastiness, or cleanliness or any of the other things being talked about. They get foam, you squirt in some crap it cuts it down. But it is a normal part of hot tub operation.

Bunyun

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whatever this may be, I hope it becomes a wake up call for the childish comments they have made about Gerry. Can you imagine what they would say about him? "children" can be so cruel. But they seem alright with this so called bite with Lisa. I hope I don't hear another word out of her about Gerry. If she does, and Gerry happens to hear it, I hope he lays into her!
Just a half cent worth here. Whew! feel better now!
Guess thats the grandma in me!

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
guys, as I said in a previous post.....foam in hottubs can be one of two things (speaking from my experience as a lifeguard)
It is most often from the oils in people's skin....causes the foaminess. It could also be from soap residue from clothes, skin, or even cleaning the hottub.
We have a huge foam problem in the hottub where I work and the maintenance guys told me that the above reasons are what causes it.
So, since they don't have a 'crazy foam problem' it's probably the oils from their skin causing it. If it was from soap the foam would be overflowing (I've seen it happen even from just a slight residue)
So, when you see Gerry or someone else put chemicals in the tub while people are in it....thats 'defoamer' and it doesn't harm people.

As for why the dr hasn't diagnosed yet...man there are sooooo many skin problems it's hard to identify them just by looking. That would be why he/she ordered blood tests. I would be worried if they diagnosed quickly...like the previous post where the dr made an assumption about poison ivy and was wrong....too hasty.

I think the number of posts shows that everyone here is caring and interested in finding out what is ailing lisa and everyone is hoping she gets better (thats so nice!)

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What REALLY surprises me is that they haven't been using seat covers until this time? I mean really..with this group of people I'd be using 10 covers and still do the not let my butt touch the seat half squat!!

Maris

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If Lisa has a spider bite, why can't CBS just get some spider exterminators in and fumagate the whole place? It makes no sense to have spiders loitering around. Lisa might be reacting more than usual because she is so thin and it makes her more prone to being sicker.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
maris, they don't think its a spider bite anymore.