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Misslibra

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well what ever it is Lisa keeps saying it's hot to touch. Wouldn't some ice applied to the area take some of the fever out, and possibly help with some of the pain?

IS THERE A DOCTOR IN THE HOUSE?! :)

Texastillie

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate to see anyone sick. I'm sure that even if it is not contagious, having something like that with blisters and infection, they would all be well advised to use seat covers, wash their hands often and avoid any kind of contact.

Draheid

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone know if 'Brown Recluse' are in that part of the country? Those things are NASTY (voice of experience!!)

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bring in Dr. Will!

Sisalou

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thats awful. I hope it is nothing serious and I'm sure the others will assure her there is nothing to be embarrassed about.

Tabbyking

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if they are suggesting toilet seat covers, it would not be a bite or sting, because she couldn't pass those on.

Draheid

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No Ryan, if you bring Will in, he'll want to stay and win the prize!!!

Tabbyking

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the picture looks more like impetigo...not the ringworm i originally thought possible.

Sunriverose

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They apparently do have brown recluse in that area but had that been what bit her, she would be in ICU by now, it is a very deadly bite.

Misslibra

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid your right. LOL

Tabby the Doc isn't sure what it is they think it's a bite but to be on the safe side they want her to use seat covers.

And Texas is right they should of also reminded the Hg's to wash their hands... with soap.

Sisalou

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if it could be shingles? I had that once and it started with a bump similiar to Lisa's then blistered up. Shingles usually stay on one side of the body and also can be brought on by stress. I hope thats not what it is.

Tootseug

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Max, I hear ya. I know what your thinking too. But has this actually been causing her alot of pain??

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hate to do this, but weren't we just lectured on another thread about ameteur diagnosis?

Curlyq

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I guess we just need to wait for the lab results. We'll find out soon enough.

Dixiebelle31

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Brown Recluse bites are not deadly. They are quite nasty and linger for years but are rarely fatal.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sunriverrose,
The biggest problem here is that even if you do have a medical background (which i do...nursing) there are sooooo many skin conditions and many of them include redness, swelling, heat and pain. What is really telling and interesting is that she is also feeling tired and nauseas. I would say that, that is why the doctor is taking blood. It does imply to me that it could be a bite where venom has entered the body...but most people with medical backgrounds wouldn't want to speculate on skin conditions too much unless it's obvious which this is definately not. More investigation is definately needed, and seems to be happening! I'm glad to know they take care of them well there....dr on call and all.

Flyonthwall

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is all I've heard her say about it:

hot to touch, fever in her but cheek
Pain in her leg.
Blisters have developed.
She was feeling sick to her stomach
Very tired and fatigued.
Head hurt
Seems symptoms came on quickly after discovery of the "bite" area.

Since it seems so localized it seems to be a bite of some kind to me based on what I've experienced.
I had a spider bite like that on my face and it got hot swollen, fever, lymph glands inflammed, headache, tired and sluggish, sick to my stomach, and my face broke out around the bite with tiny red spots.
I have allergic reactions to bees and spiders and even mosquito bites get huge and swollen with fever!
I'm sure the doc is just being precauious about this. After all he's supposed to watch out for everyone in the house.

We'll know tomorrow ...maybe..

Violet

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Max & Tootseug, I'm with you both, "h" breakouts are common in this area. The first few days can be very painful.
How awful...in front of all of America. I bet they'll drop the subject if it is something that could cause her embarassment.

Poor girl.

Max

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with what Cute said above. There are LOTS of things it could be, including a bite of some kind. :)

Curlyq

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A bite would be a little ironic, because on Saturday night's show she was whispering to Eric in bed "I've never been bitten before."

Sunriverose

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute, you are absolutely right, of course. I am only curious about why they wouldn't culture it if they think it might be contagious. Why just blood tests?

The acute onset, general malaise, flu-like symptoms and inflammation, etc at the site would lead me to think it is a bite of some kind. I specifically meant to imply that "H" is not likely because I thought that many people would immediately think of that.

Also, to Dixie, you are right. For some reason I had the brown recluse and the violin spiders mixed up.

I also agree that speculation is a futile exercise, but we do it so well here.

Tabbyking

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
heck, it could be a dermititis rash from soap staying in her clothes, or chlorine and sitting around in a wet suit. could be lots of things,so it's great they have a doctor available.

now, which gal did josh bite on the rump?

Flyonthwall

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anyone on here that remembers the morning Gerry was working out on that exerciser and a spider was around...somewhere?

I don't know if it was around him or on the camera lens. Sorry but I forgot what I read but it was joked about.
Just struck me and wondered about that since they have all been using that exerciser.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
for all of those who are jumping to 'herpes' conclusions:
"Characteristically, recurrent genital herpes causes LOCAL, but not systemic manifestations"
(Black, 1997.....this is a medical/surgical text for nurses, email me if you want the full reference.)

When they say that it has no systemic manifestations that completely rules out herpes in the case of Lisa. Her symptoms include systemic symptoms....headache, nausea, fatigue, lack of appetite.
So, Please everyone do not suggest anymore that Lisa has herpes....her symptoms are not consistent with that virus.

Spunky

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 09:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Also, looks a lot like Lime Disease, you know, the one you get from an infected tick, although the grass there is not that tall but if she sat on it with her bikini it may be possible.
If it's a spider must have been a nasty one, some people are susceptible even to the tiniest spiders bites, but a black widow's bite would have caused more severe symptoms and hopefully she was given antibiotics.
I feel sorry for her, of all the people the spider could have bitten she was chosen, bad luck. T'was supposed to be Josh's butt...