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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: Are Lisa and Eric in love?: Archive through July 28, 2002

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We've been watching ... is this going to be a Will/Shannon thing or ... ... ... what?

Jan

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well OI they seem to have more feelings and trust for each other than Chia (who seems to relaly like Roddy but not trust him at all) and Roddy (who seems to be using Chia).

But then I am not sure that I trust Eric. He doesn't talk to Roddy about Lisa the same way he talks to Lisa.

Loriwillwin

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it even appropriate to use Will/Shannon as a paradigm of true love? Will was much more convincing than any of these characters, I admit. But I'll never forget when Will was wooing Shannon at the beginning of the show, saying "what do I envision us doing in a year? I envision you lying in bed and me lying right beside you, reading to you." (Not an exact quote.) A year later, Will sits alone as he is interviewed for "BB3" and remarks cryptically, "Shannon doesn't want me talk about our relationship." I've heard rumors that she's back down South, so was this really the star-crossed match that Will, and everyone else, exclaimed that it was going to be? It may well be that they've broken up, and Will was the heart-breaker!

Will may well have been inventing an "inside-the-House relationship" to build allies and soften his image. Sound familiar? That's what Roddy seems to be doing, only Will was better at it!

Draheid

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Loriwillwin: Is that convincing or conniving?
Just curious!

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric and Lisa kind of bore me as a couple. Not sure about the depth of their relationship or intentions.

Eric talking in his sleep, though, is an interesting development. Maybe he has a higher consciousness in there struggling to get out? Maybe it gets squished by his mus-kulls and testosterone in the waking hours.

Pinky780

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know this is only slightly on the subject, but I loved Will. I started out hating him, but when the others kept allowing him to remain in the house and he made his famous "Of course, I lie; I'll lie about anything!" speech, I was hooked on this crazy conniving man!

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was using the Will/Shannon thing as the opposite of true love... oh -- I know it's crazy; but, it's just my way.

Cute1073

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oregonfire, I feel the same way....Roddy and chiara have more drama, it can be painful to watch sometimes but you still can't take your eyes away! (or at least MY eyes anyway)

Ark

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I believe that they THINK they're falling in love but I see it more as "we're the last people on earth" syndrome and they're being driven to repopulate the world.

Jan

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well the way Eric is just now talking to Roddy about Lisa, he is really feeling it for Lisa. He has gone from using her to seeming to really have a lot of feelings for her. He seems to be surprised about how much he cares about her.

Roddy said "well don't let Josh know how you feel!"

Minnyace01

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMHO, R & C are falling for each other, it is more than sex. With E & L, the infatuation stage is now being played. In about a week, they may move it to the deeper level that R & C are at. As a side note, can you imagine how difficult it is going to be for L outside the house after her lesson teaching and her comments in bed last night. Maybe R does know a thing or two, when he takes his microphone and holds it up between C and himself. Did you also notice how R & C are spending more time under the covers the last couple of days.

Sheila494

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
eric and lisa are in lust.

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sheila is right. They are in lust.

I do think their rapport is much more genuine than the Roddy/Chiapet hook-up, but it still lacks realism. They may be greatly attracted to each other, but they don't seem to really know each other nor are taking the time to know each other. They seem to be swept up in the moment and the situation.

Cyn

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
my take is eric's into her more than she is into him.

Creampuff

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I read the question and answered to myself....they're not IN LOVE, they're IN LUST!

Ark said they THINK they are in love. Sheila said they are in lust. My comments exactly. Same type of thing as if they were two people on a desert island, yeah? Convenience and all that.

Hearing what Will had to say on the show the other night, regarding Shannon, it doesn't sound like they are committed to a blissful and meaningful relationship, does it? Would he be so evasive otherwise?

While sex is an important component of any relationship, it usually takes more to constitute a foundation.

We'll have to wait and see though.

Barbiedoll

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course they are in love..like:
Will and Shannon
Kirsta and Boogie
Josh and Brittany
These realtionships were real and lasted a long, long time...way after the show ended! LOL

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Out of all the relationships Barbie listed I do think that Eric, and Lisa have played this much better, perhaps the best we have seen. They are not flaunting their falling for each other. They usually limit their shows of affection for the night time. Of course as they start to feel more comfortable with each other they are bringing it out to the house.... slowly.

Love may be a strong word to use, but I do think that are going to become very close with each other. WHo knows what happens after the show. They live right now on two different coasts. Remember most relationships don't make it to marriage. Why does it have to be a bad thing if these two don't get to marriage?

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anybody say it was a bad thing if they don't get married?

Eric and Lisa have said thing to each other that I have never heard on a BB show. That's what prompted the question.

Maris

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont think they are. Remember the conversation Lisa had with Roddy last week about how she would love to get to know him better after she gets outside the house. She is afraid to start anything with Roddy because of Chiara and those were her words.

I dont know about Eric, if he had such strong feelings about her he wouldnt be giving the play by play to Roddy the morning after their "rendevouz"

Lurknomore

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they may be developing real feelings for each other, as they know it. Both seem to be rather shallow in relationships, but I actually think they are caring as much as they know how to. Earlier in the week I heard Lisa talking to Chiapet about how Eric is really growing on her. She went on to tell how she was having a nightmare and how kind and caring he was with her after it. It was a genuinely sweet story and she seemed quite surprised at what was going on with them.

Minnie I was munching on cherries as I read this thread and so help me I damn near choked, literally, on your comment that they are moving to "the deeper level that R & C have." I think they ONLY relationship those 2 have is a manipulative farce. Personally I see nothing real or any signs of genuine caring (other then each about themselves).

Maris

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Minny was referring to Chiara's grooming of Roddy's ear. She got in pretty deep there.

Weinermr

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Eric and Lisa are in lust right now, but that doesn't mean they aren't falling, or will fall in love as time goes on. How can they form a "real" relationship in that house anyway? How can anyone? Give the kids a chance. See where they are after BB3, after the cameras, and forced proximity, and unnatural environment. Meanwhile, we get to watch, if we so choose, the soft porn.

Loriwillwin

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, now that you mention it, I do see Lisa as more Roddy's "equal" than Chiara is. (I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.) Roddy would like someone like that, and physically Lisa resembles Chiara quite a bit. Has anyone else noticed that Eric and Roddy sort of resemble each other, and Lisa and Chiara sort of resemble each other? Even in the early days, I was rather surprised by CBS' "duplicate casting."

Weinermr

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Lisa and Chiara resemble each other, or that Roddy and Eric resemble each other.

Wcv63

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 03:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think there is a genuine "attraction" with both couples. Whether it can be sustained into a relationship is another matter entirely.