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Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We're all sick of Arnold Shapiro cutting to FOTH right when one of the HGs says something really juicy...

But the good news is that every time he cuts away, it comes after about 10 seconds of really good information! So, in effect, he's TELLING us exactly what's important. He's flagging the legally dangerous stuff for us to notice.

On this thread, feel free to compile all the good stuff that Arnie DOESN'T WANT US TO KNOW but was revealed as important by FOTH!

--For example, just now, Amy and Marcellas were in the HoH room and Amy was talking about Chiara and Tonya.

Amy: "Here's a little tip. The next time they're casting this show, don't go picking up drunk hookers at the mall. There are so many people, on the Internet and at home, who REALLY wanted the opportunity to be on this show, so you don't go casting drunk hookers at the mall--" --FOTH.

So obviously, Arnie is trying to hide the fact the selection system is rigged.

What else is Arnold Shapiro trying to hide from us? What does he think we're too stupid to catch?

Pay attention when FOTH pops on, and put the info in this thread for our future reference:

Crossfire

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys with feeds need to hide your money from Arnie, but tell him why in clear terms.

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire, those of us with feeds mostly feel the good outweighs the bad, so I don't think your suggestion, although virtuous, will go very far. Besides, this isn't a thread about the worth of live feeds. This is about things that trigger FOTH.

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very true Bastable. They are trying to hide facts from live feed watchers but the live feed watchers are hardcore internet fans who are already on to their scams so what difference does it make.

Crossfire

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I gathered as much, I read the topic.

ktnx bye.

Tootseug

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the most recent, full frontal of Roddy in the courtesy of Chiara.

Bohawkins

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They are obviously concerned about paying music royalties, which seemingly would not be that great if radio stations can do it. If someone starts to sing a song they cut to the front door.

On the subject in general, I have not had a chance to watch the feeds much this season, but the five times I have, after a few minutes of "live" action, it went to the front door (that term was so easy to type, and I didn't have to do all caps). I really do see why so many posters are annoyed. This really is bad programming. It seems like the Real.com people would be concerned as well, since they are attempting to use this as a vehicle to promote internet video programming as a quality media alternative.

It comes off as very amateurish. I have to believe that there are some true pros concerned about this as well (I can imagine those meetings). Maybe they will get the kinks out.

Delilah

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course the most obvious thing FOTH hides is the comps (apart from food comp) and the greatest thing it hides is more annoying details of Tatonya's divorce.

Jesse

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They must be paying millions in royalties for that da*n FOH tune.

Crossfire

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The music industry can SMLN, they wonder why they are doing so poorly. I can't think of another product that would enact rules that prevent it from getting free promotion on TV.

Paulyaceiii

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
of course, they went to FOTH for about 54 minutes during the nominating Friday...

BUT!

Prior to the nominations, there was about a 30, maybe a 45 minute stretch where they had 4 feeds on 2 people..

1-2 on Josh sleeping
3-4 on Tonya doing her hair..

Imagine my surpise when Josh and Tonya were revealed as the nominees!

Goddess146

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They go to FOTH during most of the competitions. At first I thought they did it to preserve the viewing "fun" of the competition for the TV show. As time went on, I realized from the HGs conversations they did to hide the scripting, coaching and re-takes that take place. What we see on TV is not the bumbling activities of a group of ordinary people. What we see on the TV is a rehearsed and re-shot activites of a group of semi-profesional-but-lousy actors.

Look at what happened when they showed the HOH competition on live TV. Julie and the cast made several embarassing screwups. The HGs were talking about how Marc screwed up the nominations with things like calling Josh "Jason" and several other things. We never see any of this on TV.

I am not saying that the outcomes of the competitions are scripted. I am just saying that they do re-takes and so forth to make it looks good.

Personally, I am not very interested in watching the silly competitions for this reason. The only thing I care about is the outcome. Who won the veto power, etc.

Keiffer

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that they seem to be going to the FOTH a bit much. In fact they have been there for what an hour tonight doing the luxery comp? SOmetimes it doesnt even seem like the HG's are talking about other people, or singing a song, but just a wish by the editors to break up the viewing of us internet people to keep some things fresh for the show. In addition like said earlier that they also seem to be getting into this thing were they show basically the same things on feeds 1-2, and feeds 3-4. For example what was all this stuff Eric and Roddy were talking about having to do with Eric and Lisa last night "breaking the rules", and yet not on any LFP that I can find on any site is there an record of this happening.

Paulyaceiii

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course I forgot the best part...

They were only showing Josh and Tonya..

Before Nominations

Paulyaceiii

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I did say that...OK...in my best Emily Letella, nevermind..

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I kind of meant BESIDES the competitions... I'm talking about specific subject matter that triggers FOTH. We should record all of them in one place (this thread) so we don't have to comb through topics and Live Feed posts to find all of them.

We have so far:

--Tonya's divorce. (What specifics have we learned about it so far?)
--That Tonya was apparently found at the mall and cast afterward, so the selection process is definitely rigged (Amy)
--That Chiara was having a snappy affair with Mr. Silverstein (more details are in topic "Chiara's Code")
--Songs, because CBS is too cheap to pay the recording industry and the recording industry is too cheap to allow free publicity to take place.

..what else?

Curlyq

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When Roddy started relaying a story about Shapiro being a snob. He made a comment about why is Roddy reading Kafka and...FOTH.

Don't bash the boss I guess.

Cyn

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya when she talks about her brother who her family thought was gay. Never find out cuz it always goes to FOTH.

Demeter

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They went to FOTH today when Gerry, Danielle and Jason were talking about a movie (can't recall the name...even though I've seen it) with Bruce Willis and Michelle Pfieffer...they were talking about the house in the movie, how they liked the house and to clarify what movie they were speaking about Danielle said something about "where they are getting divorced and they both love the kids..." then we got FOTh

So, it looks like talking about movies, especially movies about divorce, are also off topic...Maybe the control room was mistaking Michelle Pfieffer for Tonya! (not even close)

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's right!

I also remember reading in another topic that Eric or Roddy started complaining about the alchoholic beverage (Sauza Diablo? Stoli?) that sponsors the show. He was talking about how terrible it was, how they could have gotten a better friggin' sponsor than this filthy dishwater-- FOTH!

Again, no bashing the boss! (Of course, what's so STUPID is that if they hadn't gone to FOTH fewer of us would have even noticed the insult.)

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 04:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They do cut up important conversations. It's very frustrating. I think the Eric/Lisa stuff didn't end up being shown because of other conversations going on. God forbid they actually use the 4 feeds and show 4 different parts of the house at one time. E/L stuff was probably going on when they were showing Danielle/Jason and Josh/Chiara/Roddy or when they were showing Amy/Marcellas (I forget who was on the other feed at this time). Essentially they only have 2 feeds. I don't even know why they even bother pretending there are truly 4 feeds.

Verdana

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Cameltoes. I just sent an email to Arnold Shapiro Productions complaining about so much front of the house time and that awful, repetitive music I'm here to tell you. Honey, I hope others on here have written him as well, though I'm not too confident our input will amount to a hill of beans to him. Baby, I forgot to mention the new ad preview that is running before the video feed starts and everytime I change feeds up pops this ad. It is annoying honey. I'm here to tell you it's enough to make me not want the feeds for BB4.

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya was just talking about her infection. She said that when she is sick, she gets cloudy urine that really, really stinks. And then FOTH! Why on earth should that be withheld from us? Sure, it's gross, but not a legal issue. What, does her pee need to sign a waiver first?

Spygirl

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was the "David and I have having so much sex" comment that did it, not the urine.

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Spygirl. The divorce again. Tonya is probably the single biggest bonehead I have ever seen in my entire life.