Archive through August 01, 2002
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Archive through August 01, 2002
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:17 pm     I nearly gagged when Chiara and Danielle were on the hammock discussing Roddies qualities and one of them said he was perfect. I guess he is if you are looking for someone to dominate you, Chiara. |
Suitsmefine | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:19 pm     I personally find Roddy to be extremely fake. He tells Chiara he really cares about her {and she believes it!} then he tells Eric she is just too emotional. As a matter of fact he tells EVERYONE he really cares about them and then turns around and backstabs them.....I just want to smack him and make him cry. |
Eden | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:21 pm     Roddy is playing a good game. He has carefully cultivated an enviably powerful position in the house...Even managed to ingratiate himself to those he has helped to oust. That's all the more reason, anyone actually playing the game and not riding his coattails would and should want him gone! |
Misslibra | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:24 pm     OMG Wink, how could you go to the dark side. Eric is so much more sweeter, caring and kind, not to mention a hunk of burnin love! Roddy is playing a great game though, I just can't stand his cockiness, arrogance, know it all attitude. But hey, he is playing a hell of a game. Can't wait to see which HG's is going to knock him off his pedestal. Wow, what if Chiara built up enough nerves to do it. That would be must see TV for me. But the girl has let her heart get in the way of the game.  |
Misslibra | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:25 pm     If I was rooting for a couple it would be Eric and Lisa. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:27 pm     Me too, Misslibra |
Misslibra | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:28 pm     <High five> Llkoolaid |
Tracy | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:29 pm     Why would someone who wants less sex talk want to keep Roddy? His girlfriend (who he tells he wants to take to the end) is far and away the worst sex talker of the bunch. |
Keiffer | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:29 pm     I agree Miss, of the two couples I very much perfer Lisa/Eric. Lisa has yet to show herself as being a bad person, and Eric has for sure been very nice to Lisa. For sure they actually seem to me to actually be like a couple, unlike Will/Shannon for example. What would be funny though is if I am all wrong, and five years we see a where are they now, and Roddy and Chiara are married with a couple kids... you never can tell. Maybe Lisa and Eric are good in the house, but Chiara and Roddy would be better outside the house. |
Azriel | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:29 pm     Earthmother, Roddy hasn't performed character assassination? That seems to be his forte. He is just very subtle in his machinations. |
Misslibra | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:31 pm     I could see Lisa and Eric married with child too. |
Lovemarc | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:48 pm     I simply can NOT understand why everyone finds Roddy to be so desirable. I wouldn't give him a second glance. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:01 pm     Maybe it is my age, I don't know but he doesn't impress me either. Sure he is good eye candy but there is so much more to look for. He is so slick, he manipulates people so well. He irrated me with his reasons for putting Amy up and then saying he forgave her because she learned her lesson. The way he controls Chiara is sickening. I actually find myself feeling sorry for her. He is a control freak IMHO |
Wink | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 09:06 pm     MissLibra not to worry. Roddy is strictly eye candy. I agree he is playing a pretty good game but his slick handling of the female houseguests, (with the exception of Danielle I hope), will I think be his downfall. Tonite when he approached Marc and Amy in the hammock and when he spoke privately to Marc in the HOH room I cringed. This guy is only a fair to middling actor and his insincerity in both those situations screamed at me. Glad Marcellas told him to take a hike. Marcellas is my favourite to listen to and Jason now that he's finally speaking in complete sentences is becoming another. |
Earthmother | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:30 pm     Azriel I was talking about personal frontal attacks of meanness..like "he's a Nazi" "he is nasty and digusting and stinks like a pig" "he's fat"..you know childish picking on someone on a personal level rather than clear cut reasons and showing no mercy. Even his little speech to Amy, though hurtful he chose words that attacked her actions not her as a person, he softened the blow and made sure he apologized. I don't like the guy, but he manages to smooze his way through calmly and it works for him so far. |
Gouraphik | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:53 pm     Well, I like to root for the underdog, too...I won't deny it. But what I really like to do is try and analyze the strengths and weaknesses of the strong players in the game (like Roddy or Danielle at this time) and figure out how to exploit those weaknesses and turn those same strengths into weaknesses. So...what are Roddy's weak points? 1) His mirroring/seduction skills: This is his greatest strength, and his greatest (potential) weakness. Why? Because it's like when a guy tries to date too many women at once. It's fine if they don't know about each other's existence, but if they ever put two & two together...uh oh. Also, playing with emotions is playing with fire. I'm not sure if Roddy understood just how dangerous his gameplaying could be (especially regarding Chiara & Amy). He's had to essentially focus on ousting Amy in order to fix the mess he made...and he's still got that Chiara monkey on his back. Whether he has feelings for her or not is NOT the issue. She's a liability, and she may well cost him the game. 2) His "image": It's been obvious that Roddy is very concerned about how he appears. He wants to seem honest. He's not honest (nobody is in this house), but he wants to look like he is. This can be exploited in many ways...just set it up so he feels compelled to salvage his image in a way that benefits you, or help him damage his image so that he gets thrown off. All you need is the opportunity to strike. Those are the major ones, IMO. His reticence to talk about his writing career in detail, his misogyny, his pseudo-intellectualism and other serious flaws are worth noting as well. I just hope one of the HG's figures out some way to use them to his/her advantage. Time will tell. |
Snee | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:15 pm     roddy is playing the game well...right now. he may be able to continue this, but some people are onto him: dani, marce, jason, and...gerry? i started out being neutral about roddy, but i don't like the superior attitude he has shown and i don't appreciate his condescending remarks about women. still, i don't want him out because of that. i want one of my faves to win: marce, jason, dani...and i think it would be HILARIOUS if gerry won! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! |
Snee | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:18 pm     oh, and the kiki issue? if he is playing with her emotions, i think he should be smacked upside the head. that's just not on. messing with a fellow hg's mind--lying, scheming, manipulating, etc.--is fine, but messing with emotions is just mean. |
Wink | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:38 am     Gouraphik I think your analysis of Roddy is right on. To me his overriding concern is his image and the key to throwing him off his game is to strike at that vulnerable spot. |
Costacat | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:54 am     Gouraphik, your analysis of Roddy is pretty much what I came up with. And the one thing that rubs me wrong the most is his "pseudo-intellectualism." He is NOT the smartest in the house. He may be one of the most well-read (I'd say Gerry takes that honor). The fact that he (Roddy) thinks he's the smartest in the house is the one reason why I don't like him. That, and I do not agree with those who think he's eye candy. He ain't candy for THESE eyes! |
Eden | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:08 am     Excellent post, Gouraphik! I have to agree with you that Roddy's "relationship" with Chiara is a liability. The true nature of his personal feelings aside, the fact is it interferes with his ultimate strategy which is to be all things to all players. Being a part of a couple puts a huge target on his back, simply because he seems to control two votes. He can't be as flexible and agile within the game as others, because he can't swing between alliances without making himself look like a jerk. Roddy made his biggest mistake almost the first minute he stepped in the house. |
Bidasea | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:10 am     Same feelings here Costacat..Just once I wish that they would have a man more my age that was just a normal guy...Every time they have a middle age person they are shown as a moron like Chicken George or Kent..I'd like them to cast more guys like Rodger from Survivor..A few more Cassandras would be nice too..All people don't sit around and talk about sex all of the time. Some conversations are about movies, books, or world events..I like the casting of the Mole, and the Amazing Race better. |
Costacat | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:15 am     OMG, Bid... The Mole and Amazing Race are my two fav reality shows!! And I agree 100% that the casting on those shows is more "real" than other reality shows. I absolutely cannot relate to any of the HGs on BB3; I've even had a hard time relating to any HGs on previous BB shows. The "middle-aged" women are all shown as emotional wrecks, too. Nicole is the only one who made it past the first coupla weeks. (Wasn't Sheryl axed the first week of BB2?) Kent was a bit more real than Chicken George (and I actually like how his relationship with Bunky deepened as the show went on.) Deep relationships on this season's BB? I think not! |
Earthmother | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:24 am     We are only in the first few weeks. We are all aware of how people can change their minds about an HG every week. I absolutely hated Eddie and Will in the first 5 weeks of the show, but as the dynamics in the house changed so did my opinions of them. I think if we really look at last year we will see some similarities to this group, but remember they are different people. I see a little of myself in each of them if I'm being honest. As time goes on the controversy eases and some who we think will never gel actually do. |
Bidasea | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:30 am     So true Earthmother..I am guilty of judging too soon also..Or maybe it is the lesser of evils..Someone gets on my nerves so bad that they make someone else look good..I ended up really liking Eddie after seeing he did indeed have a sensitive side.. Costacat..Yeah you are right..Kent and Bunky had a nice relationship..I wonder if Roddy will actually stay friends with anyone in this house? |
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