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Oregonfire

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 10:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's called the "poo on a stick" phenomenon.

Zachsmom

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Oregon..lol..:)

Sia

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I think Chiara's crude, vulgar comments show that she may have depressed-IQ. In other words, she's just not very smart. I honestly wonder whether she falls into the category of people we called (back in my younger days) "educably mentally retarded." People in this category have IQ scores between 80 and 100 (100 being considered "normal" or average).

Did she complete a regular high school course, or did she go on to college at all? I haven't tried to research Chiara's background, as I don't have the time/energy to waste on her. I don't have a psychology degree or a doctor's medical license, so I'm not qualified to determine her level of emotional disturbance, but I believe that she has some "issues" involving sex--which may again stem from a low-IQ or from brain-injury. Has she had a significant physical trauma that could explain her behavior? Brain-injured and low-IQ people her age often lack the experience and emotional maturity to grasp the social ramifications of their statements and relationships.

As an example, a girl I knew who was brain-injured in a car accident was left comatose and paralyzed. Through physical therapy following her awakening, she regained her speech and the use of her limbs. She lacked the understanding, however, of all social mores that she'd grown up with and her "boyfriend" essentially repeatedly raped her by convincing her that it was "okay" and acceptable behavior. My friend's social maturity is still significantly less-developed than you would expect for someone her age, but she has progressed beyond the level of understanding that she had shortly after the accident.

Oregonfire

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sia, that's what Rosemary Kennedy, Joe Kennedy's daughter had--mild retardation. She was given a frontal lobotomy because Joe Kennedy was afraid she would embarrass the family. The Special Olympics was started out of the family's guilt over that decision, IMO. (Kennedy history.)

I don't know. Again, it's one of those speculation things. Sounds plausible, but at this point unprovable in Chiara's case. My sister had a boyfriend that had mild brain damage from a motor cycle accident, and he would be weird about sex stuff also. Too bad. (Don't even ask why she chose to go out with someone with brain damage, one of life's little mysteries.)

Curlyq

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What a charitable group we are to want to think up every possible reason to explain Chiara's behavior. Still...maybe...just maybe the girl just really REALLY likes sex and doesn't censor herself because the only people around her right now act like her behavior is funny and attractive. If any of them ever work up the nerve to set her straight she'll take offense and spend the rest of the game playing victim and pouting.

That's my personal theory.

Sia

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to agree, CurlyQ, that Chiara wouldn't take being "corrected" well by her fellow HGs. LOL at our being such a "charitable group!" I posted what I said about Chiara coming off as low-IQ because I really don't want to think that an intelligent, pretty girl would behave the way she does purposely. The other HGs may not be saying anything to her right now because they use the same rationale that we've assigned to their keeping Josh around: against either Josh or Chiara, the remaining HGs must believe their chances of winning the 500K are pretty good. And I'd have to agree with that assessment!

Hootyhoot

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First let me say that I have a weakness for gross humor, and I might say something gross/appalling/funny to one very close friend, but not in a crowd (or on TV!!!)! But to keep at it like Chiara does, with hardly any let-up, does make you wonder what is wrong with the girl? My daughter was in an automobile accident about 8 years ago, with a serious head injury. While she was in intensive care, the medical staff prepared us for the transitions she would go through as she recovered ... confusion, fantasies, confabulation, rage, etc. ... and even from the first day, they told us she WOULD recover fully. And she did recover, faster than any of us had imagined (thank God!) ... but for about six months, she would say ANYTHING that popped into her head. Let's face it, people think about sex ... and while most of us might THINK a funny sexy weird thought, my daughter would just blurt it out! It's funny now, but at the time, I couldn't figure out what to do ... I thought I should call her doctor but I didn't want to be the "stool pigeon mom." Luckily, she gradually recovered that restraint and now, like me, she may say something naughty to a friend but not to the whole family at Thanksgiving dinner!

Wendydarling

Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Chiara listing what number she was with different guys.......I was someone's first, second, 45th. Says she always asks, it tells alot. If he's been with alot of girls, he should be good in bed."

From Sat., August 3.

She's curious about what number she is so you can extrapolate the sexual skills of her temporary partner. And it sounds like, to kind of keep a score card. No mention of risks of STDs. She's <>.

Lexie

Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
45th ?? good lord

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If she is someone's first, that means it's his first time, not hers. So if she is someone's 45th, he has been with 45 different women (it could have been her first time).

Her comment doesn't indicate how many men she has been with.

Earthmother

Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if she puts notches in her headboard..

Hootyhoot, I too do not have a problem with gross humor (I have 2 sons and a husband, it's hard to escape) and I too say and do things when with friends that I would never think of saying or doing in public. My shock is not so much what she says (well maybe the tampon thing) but where and who she is saying it to. Your friends know you and love you and if this is the way you play it's fine because you are all in agreement that it's ok, however these people are strangers to her and hundreds of people are hearing her who don't know her. It's very difficult not to judge the behavior of someone who obviously has no boundaries.

Wcv63

Saturday, August 03, 2002 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother...you've got it. It's the "no boundaries" thing that bothers me too.