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Mockme

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 02:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been a lurker here since BB1. (go Curtis!) I usually keep a bead on the live feed posts while I'm working, checking every little while to see if anything new is happening.

We have a new system administrator here who just installed an internet filter and he just informed me that my constant BB web surfing is tripping the porn censors!! (I didn't think anyone knew what I was up to....hehehe) Of course, he had the hutzpah to mention this in front of my boss, but THAT'S another subject entirely....

ANYWAY, any advice? I don't know if anyone has run across the same problem. It would appear I have my very own Big Brother situation here at work and I don't want to be spied on!

Obviously, his little warning did nothing to stop me today since here I am. Damn addiction!

Thefan

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Most companies monitor internet usage, especially if you work for a large company. Some have restrictions on what you can see and do, others have blanket restrictions and if you get caught you are out of there.

I would find out what the policy was and then decide what you want more, your job or the live feeds.

I really don't see how BB would trip a porn sensor though, since it is a Real Player feed and porn sensors are looking for different content and key words I thought.

Good luck.

Amac

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Mockme! I can't offer advice but..... is it really surprising that all the sex chat in that house would trip your Internet porn censors? hee hee

Crossfire

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Pfff!

What a novice admin. I would have used that info to gain favor somehow. That is the kind of thing you file away for later. ;)

__Tera

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You definetly have BB watching you (system administrators). The best advise I have for you is to become friends with those who know about your addiction. And ask them to keep their big yap shut.

Or

Get a 2nd p.c. and use dial up.

Marylee

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Try going to Surfola.com, then use their stealth mode. Their homepage will describe what their site does, ie., allow to go to a site and not be monitored by an employer, etc.

Good Luck,
MaryLee

Lawyerman

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You might want to try the Jam Updates web site. It's a showbiz type of web site with less frequent updates, but enough updates during the day to give you the highlights of what's going on. Also, since it's an entertainment web site, it may be less likely to trip the porn filters. It's not as extensive as this web site, but give it a try:

http://rapids.canoe.ca/cgi-bin/hchat/hchat?Room=BigBrotherThree

Thefan

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I tried going to the surfola site and it is blocked! Anything they don't want us to see they put some sort of filter on, but I have never been blocked from Big Brother.

Max

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The port they'd need to block to keep RealOne from working would also block things like business briefings from On24 and news video from CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, or any other business-related video/audio news. That's how I get away with seeing it behind our firewall. When they switched firewall services, the port ended up being blocked by default in the new service and I had to make some calls saying that earnings reports were coming and we needed to provide links to On24 video updates for employees (I work in corporate communications). That got them to reopen the port -- they hadn't realized the new system blocked it. Very convenient for me! :)

The content filtering software your company is using might be triggered by the disclaimer that Real puts up about adult content. Most non-porn sites don't do that and the software might be logging anything that has such a warning.

Could be that the network guy/gal was testing the waters by mentioning it to you. I agree with what Crossfire said -- could have been used much differently! :)

Brenda1966

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Coming to TV Clubhouse it tripping the p*rn sensors? Really?! Then I may be in big trouble...

Fanny

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 03:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mockme, I have been LMAO reading this entire thread!!! There but for the grace of god.........

Good luck to you! You have my sympathies!!!

Grannygrunt

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I work at a school and we start back Monday. We also have that kind of firewall that is suppose to block certain sites but somehow we manage not to get into trouble. Really not sure why, other than the fact that our computer guy is just as addicted as we are. So he always comes by and ask for the latest updates. lololol

Mockme

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, I KNEW I'd come to the right place to ask!

The admin is gone today and I sent him an email saying "If the porn sensors have been tripped, I'm GUILTY! By the way, did you know Amy and Marcellas are up for eviction tonight and tonight is the HOH competition??"

I figured I might as well try to get him hooked!

Ryn

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Some of the content on Bomis (OTHER areas) might be seen as not appropriate and be hitting their lil 'censors'

No suggestion from me but thats most likely the reason, I know of a few folks that cannot access this site from work because of the hosting site :(

Kinda sux huh? Cause Bomis has never been anything but good to us.

Deaffy

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 05:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This will be incredibly unpopular, but did anyone consider that it is inappropriate to use your employer's time (yes, it's "your time", but they're paying you for it) and equipment for personal entertainment?

Doesn't matter it it's BB feeds or scouting eBay, or planning a vacation. Stealing is stealing.

Off my high horse, so he's safe from the flames.

Ryn

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 05:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmmm - well I am lucky that I have lots of 'down' time waiting for things and I often work odd hours - nights, etc. If I were paid hourly I could agree, but as I am on salary it doesn't matter how many hours I work as long as the job is done, and if it takes me a bit longer because I am sometimes distracted by BB then so be it.

No flames, its a good question, but I think there are a lot of things that could be considered inapropriate. Not just keeping tabs on this show.

Personal e-mails, long breaks, a pen that accidently finds its way to your house. Using the internet for anything but work.

as you say.

I assume that you haven't done any of those things and your employer hopefully see's what a dilligant, hard working employee you are :)

Mine see's it when I go in to fix problems on my day off (such as today), when I am told I HAVE to take vacation days or else becaus I am losing them, and when I am in the office at 2 am babysitting the server while it comes back up after a crash.

Car54

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here here, Ryn....pic

Deaffy

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 06:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's true -- I can pose this question with a clear conscience. I *haven't* done any of those things you or I mentioned. Something I pride myself on. Nary a Post-It Note has made its way into my home. Even when I telecommute, I use a separate computer for my personal activity (different connection, too!).

Leadership by example. I can't exactly admonish staff for it if I'm doing the same exact thing. Most can agree that hypocrisy is maddening.

The use-it-or-lose-it vacation day is no stranger to me, either. Faced with that right now, actually.

Allyg8r

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 06:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well put Ryn. I don't feel guilty either for time spent at the office reading the LFP's, the discussion groups, and (as of today) watching the live feeds that I finally broke down and paid for.

It is easily rationalized by the following: the factthat I have never taken a vacation without spending a chunk of time at least every few days on my cell phone with my office, on my laptop (usually on dial-up from local horrific isps); weekends where my kids get dragged into the boardroom with a bunch of hilighters while I troubleshoot the problem of the day; and countless other instances of their time infringing on MY time.

So let BB infringe on THEIR time. Sometimes.

Ryn

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Deaffy - once again, good for you, you are a better person than I in that aspect I suppose.

Oh, and no discussing anything non work related - right? I mean if you tell a joke thats taking time away from productive work-time. No asking co-workers how their weekend was, etc etc etc...

I guess its all where you draw the line. I get my job done and go the extra mile for my employer all the time.

If my employer paid me to have a second computer at home for when I logged on remotely and a third line as well I would gladly use that exclusivly for that work. As it is I use my personal computer every day from home to log into my work network.

:)

Whit4you

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As someone who's owned a few business's - I think when your on the clock your on the clock - and should put all your effort into your job. In most business's there's always something you can be doing to benefit the company...:) That being said... there are ways to watch some BB AND still give 100% to your job.

:)

Fabnsab

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think this is hysterical. Today, while I was doing evaluations, I had this site on my comp. and my two asst mgrs came in and asked me about it so I showed them. They wanted to see naked pics so I showed them some caps. it was too funny because my audience grew pretty big. Hey, it's either that or play freecell like my boss does...lol

Wcv63

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I work all day with the feeds running in the background. Of course I'm self-employed so the boss encourages this kind of behavior.

Yellek

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the whole issue is whether you are in a job that is "on the clock" or not. If you're paid by the hour, then yes you're technically stealing. But if you're salary and you get the job done regardless of the hours put it, what's the problem? I hate places that treat employees like children, I find it makes them WANT to get away with more than if they were treated fairly. A friend of mine actually has to badge out (clocking out at a security station) if he goes to the bathroom!

Mockme

Friday, August 02, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, I love that this sparked a debate! But in my defense....

First off, I schlep my personal laptop back and forth to work for my personal things (email-personal and work, chat, BB board viewing, etc.). I use a company computer strictly for my work.

Second, I work in a very relaxed environment. My boss even got me hooked on several sites! We even go to the movies together and have staff meetings centered around our favorite websites because the boss thinks it makes us more productive!

I would never do it if I was asked not to, and even since the system administrator told me I was triggering the porn sensor, it's become an office joke. So I'm not worried. I'm a very dedicated worker who works as much as 60 hours a week when I need to.

I do agree that if your company has a policy, or if you don't know what the policy is, you should make sure to be ethical in your work. However, I think some of us are lucky enough to work for people who realize that we're not robots!