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Boredtart

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think we all knew exactly what Amy call KiKi because we watch the feeds. If the only thing people saw was the show, we would just assume that it was her southern tone that made Charia's name sound odd.

Cynny

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm a fairly new poster here, but have been lurking and reading and having fun on this site since BB1. I don't want to start right out disagreeing, but I would like to comment on this subject.

I don't personally feel that Amy should have had to anticipate being "humiliated" or refrain from being on the show because she wasn't firm and fit and tan. I think people should be able to expect a reasonable amount of respect and acceptance and civility from others. I don't understand why anyone would feel someone who doesn't fit a particular mold should have to limit what things in life they want to do because of a fear of the popular people not liking them. How sad would that be if all of us who weren't perfect felt like we had to stop participating in events with the perfect people just so they couldn't embarass or bully us.

I speak from experience. As a polio survivor who has always had trouble gaining and keeping on weight, I have been the recipient of mean remarks from all different shapes and sizes of women, similar to remarks I've heard made about Lisa's weight, anorexic, stick thin, etc. But, you would never have caught me feeling like I should refrain from participating in anything out of fear of being humiliated and it would offend me for someone to suggest I should sit it out to protect myself from people whose rude behavior is more offensive than my bony frame. :)

I have loved watching Amy. I think her figure is petite and adorable and fits her perfectly. I hope that when she leaves the house and returns to her life that she can look back and see that she is sweet and vulnerable and beautiful just as she is.

Earthmother

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The things you say and how you conduct yourself is how I determine your beauty. Amy is far from fat...She is very well rounded and I should be so lucky. My husband and both sons picked her as the best built of the female hgs. Unfortunately like some posters and hgs their perception of beautiful is not the question but their self-esteem is. The fat remark Chiara made was a clear cut case of jealousy and she hasn't stopped being jealous. She made a stab at Amy and that started the feud. I personally find attractiveness from within and I'm having a hard time locating it this year. I don't find Roddy or Eric attractive in the least. Jason is a cute kid, but he really hasn't done anything to find the ugly in him yet. I don't see any real beauty in any of the females. I thought Lori was the nicest so she obviously was the most beautiful to me.

Azriel

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, we are on the same wavelength about this year's show. There is a gang mentality in this show that is more pervasive and ugly than any other season that I've watched.

Sisalou

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Back again. I agree that it is producers responsiblility to judge what is broadcast. BUT, I have heard all of the houseguests numerous times say horrible things about each other.(except for Jason)

Cute, I also don't like it when others call people "trash" but I have heard Chiara call Amy trash. None of these people are angels ( except for maybe Jason ) and I know that I'm not one either. I think lots of people vent when they are frustrated and these people are in place where there is lots of frustation. IMHO thats what the show is about.

Lastly, Bohawkins, you really had me ROTFLMAO when you said that Amy is "slightly pudgy". In my opinion she looks great. I am marveling that anyone would think she is overweight. Oh well, I guess thats what makes this board so much fun most of the time is the difference in everyones perceptions and opinions. Diversity is a good thing.

Now, excuse me for my "rant" I have to go marvel at the live feed posts and the other threads. :)

Bernie

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just have to jump in here to add my comments re Amy's figure.
Doesn't she have the lowest weight of any of the other women in the house?
Wasn't she around 117llbs, when all the others were well over that?
I'm sure I recall 130, and 137, for at least two of them.
And before anyone says oh but she's smaller-I know, and I still can't for the life of me understand why anyone would call Amy fat.
We had exactly the same situation last year when Shannon of the perfect bod made fun of the rounder girl, who it turned out, had a thyroid problem, and the same discussion too.

Millions of years of evolution have determined that women will have a higher ratio of body fat than men.
It's all to do with reproduction, and the need to store hormones and nutrition, for offspring.
It's no fluke that menses fail in women who starve themselves to lose weight, and in some of those who participate professionally in sports. That's nature's way of saying-don't have a baby, it won't survive.
The fads in the way women look change all the time-we just happen to be in a prolonged one that prefers the boyish look, alas.
Marilyn Monroe was a size 16, and just look at some of Reubens nudes-today they'd be called gross.
Arrggghhh! That this topic would crop up again after last year's discussion really gets my goat!

Sherbabe

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First time here, and enjoying the conversation, compared to other chat rooms.
At first I did not know how to take Amy, but now, I really like her. I stick up for the underdog, too.
There is a website I found, www.amycrews.com.
You should check it out. It is not written by any member of her family, but, does list some
"amyism's" on there that are hysterical. Some very interesting links too. One is regarding Tonya's divorce, 1 regarding Eric's fight to save his job, 1 regarding Josh's law suit (he is lazy) and one of course, regarding Chiari DUI before she went in the house. Do any of you here, think Eric, will exercise his VETO option?
Also, as in past Big Brother's, people tend to evict people they don't like and forget to evict people who are major threats in the house. The "popular " group is making a big mistake evicting Marcellas or Amy, I think.

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's like the two issues that haunt and plague women--body fat and sexuality--crop up over and over again. In my own way I was sticking up for Amy when I was being catty about Chi Chi. (Gawd, will it ever end?) It seems sad too, when one woman in the house a least partially got her great figure from plastic surgery/tummy tuck, and it looks like one of the others may have an eating disorder. Chi Chi works out, but not as much as Shannon last year, so I think a lot of her thinness at this point is due to youth and genetics (yes, I'm going there.)

That said. I would like to see the "pudgier" female HGs "suck it up," so to speak, and get into an exercise regimen in the house. They have weights, an ab class, and nothing but time. Bunky did it last year, and Gerry's doing it this year. Even just for the sake of neutralizing the competition and cattiness, it wouldn't be a bad idea.

Azriel

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
~shakes head in disbelief~

Trulyscrumtious

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My husband, who hasn't clue one how to use a comp, let alone post to a message board, lets me vent my frustrations at some of the posts here when they are picking on Amy. So thankfully, every impulse thought I had on the whole Amy is fat discussion here has been safely vented, lol.

Hubby said I should post his thoughts on Amy though, so I'm gonna. He said that aside from Dani (whom he is not at all attracted to), Amy (who, according to hubby is just lovely to look at) is the only one in that house that looks, like she would feel like a woman should feel (to him). Warm, soft and comforting. Unlike the others, who look to him like he would need three pairs of thermal socks to bed, lol. They remind him more of a machine.

PS...lmao...he's making me say that he would never use the word lovely. Ummmm, yeah, I prettied it up a bit, he's a truck driver and I would get edited up the wazoo if I used HIS language, lol.

Trulyscrumtious

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
edited: wrong upload

Cute1073

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whoa, not getting into the body size issue, I never considered amy 'pudgy' until it was mentioned HERE. I did consider her exceptionally white tho (meaning the least tan, lol). But cynny has a point when she mentioned that we only get sensitive when someone is called fat. I too am someone who struggles to gain weight and have women tell me that 'they hate people like that' or people ask me if i'm anorexic. I was marginalized in high school because i was too skinny and certainly know what it is like to be excluded from the 'popular kids'. We should be aware of which insults are 'socially exceptable' and which are not.
This includes honest mistakes like saying 'is that your grandchild' when it is really your kid. Earthmother, you said people like that are idiots? Well I guess you would consider me an 'idiot' because I am one of those people who often put their foot in their mouths simply by being too well intentioned and honest. I guess that was why I understood why chiara may have said something accidentally about Amy's weight (MY perception)
Wow, so much to comment on......this thread (and others) has helped me see another side to Amy and I appriciate it. I will admit I still can't help but like Chiara because there are a lot of things about her I can relate to.....as i'm sure is the same with amy for others (that is one of the things i've realized). I will admit I also heard her calling Amy trash and hated every second of it. Its funny that i can tolerate someone being called a bit ch but when someone acts more superior and says someone is trashy or 'white trash' it rubs me the wrong way. I guess that just another example of different perceptions!!!!!
thats why i love you all so! :)

Sisalou

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Cute - I agree with you very strongly about the trash comments. It rubs me the wrong way too. Luv you too! :)

Ark

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy & Marc were just laughing about Amy saying "Chihora" during the competition yesterday. I guess there can be no doubt as to whether it was an accident or not.

Hunter

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 05:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Face it...my friends. This is a superficial world, with many thoughtless and ignorant people in it.

If you are not beautiful or slim you are defined as...ignorant...lazy...useless...dirty. You don't wash...shower....your feet stink and are ugly. If you are medicating for emotional illness you are...unstable.

Poor Gerry...He is feeling the full brunt of this thoughtless mindset. Do any of these people give a damn about the feelings of this mans family, his students.

Is character assasination fair play because you are on a game show.

It is sad...but typical...of this thoughtless...selfish society we live in.

Lauword

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 07:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In defense of Amy calling Chiara trash, well sometimes the truth just hurts. The way Chiara conducts herself is just plain crude and in Amy's world that could very well be contstrued as trash. I like Amy because she is self confident and funny and really doesn't care what the other girls think of her. She outshines every one of them.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lauword, my point was i don't think anyone should call anyone trash. But thats just my opinion. Amy shouldn't call chiara trash, chiara shouldn't call Amy trash....I just don't think it's ever acceptable to look down on people.....like i said i'm very sensitive to that...rubs me wrong.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara probably shouldn't continually refer to herself as a wh0re, but she keeps doing it.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh i agree seamonkey....it seems like she is trying to justify her behavior that way...like she admits she's like that to make it ok to keep acting that way. Part of insecurities probably...and maybe she likes hearing Ja say that she's not (digging for compliments)

Snee

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i really don't like the name calling at all...even though i called josh and chiara pinheads a couple of weeks ago...i'm weak.

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
since this is a thread about amy....can I just say that amy is hilarious right now running around the backyard frying ants and spiders with a magnify glass!

Costacat

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do you think the fact that Chiara always refers to herself as a ••••• is an attention-getting gimmick? Do you think that maybe she says that all the time so that someone (who seems to be missing the cue) will say "Oh, no, you're not!"

I remember saying a lot of very outrageous things when I was younger. To get attention, reactions, whatever. If she *is* as insecure as she seems to be, this could just be a device to get attention and to receive some stroking from the other HGs.

Note: I never EVER called myself a •••••. And I quit with the not-so-cute outrageous stuff when I got outta high school. Maybe Chiara just hasn't grown up yet?

Costacat

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 12:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dang... forgot to correct the bleeps. Those little red dots were where I said "wh*re".

Cute1073

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally agree with that costacat. I think thats exactly why she does it....she even admitted that it's an attention getting ploy.

Costacat

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Cute. I hadn't heard/read where she admitted it.

I think (my opinion) that Amy shouldn't have called Chiara "Chi-wh*re-ah". But I also think Chiara is asking for it by her behaviour and by the things she says. And darnit woodpeck... I keep forgetting about the married boyfriend! You are SO right!