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Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys! I wanted to be the one to do the 100th post in this thread!!!

POO!!

Wcv63

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Oregonfire beat me to it and translated it more accurately than I.

Guinevere

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't care about who's talked crap about who. I've said it before - they have ALL done it. Every single one of them, even sainted Jason. Big deal.

It annoys me that the others complain about Amy not wanting to learn about them. How self-centered are they? Have they tried to learn about her? I doubt it. It seems to me that this is more a case of the inner circle feeling that Amy, as one of the outsiders, should be subservient and know her place and kiss their asses 24/7. And because Amy chooses not to, they rip her to pieces.

The flamboyant, I'm-better-than-you thing is obviously an act and a protection that Amy puts up. It shouldn't hurt anyone (and I don't believe it has) and no one should take it seriously.

The others are bullies. What else would you call someone who would kick a person when they are down? It's ugly and they should be ashamed of themselves.

I don't care about the sex talk one way or another, except it gets boring after a while, like any one subject talked about endlessly is wont to do. My problem with Chiara and her sex talk, specifically, is that I don't believe for a second that she is this sexually enlightened young free spirit. She strikes me as the sort of woman who has learned somewhere along the line that her only value is as a sex object, and her only way of relating to men (and controlling them) is by using her sexuality. I find that pathetic and I find her repulsive. If she showed a scrap of humanity beneath her overweening arrogance, I would pity her, but so far she hasn't, so I can't.

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Scorpio - 'bout time I get a "Hi" around here, I've been getting my ass kicked on these boards lately! (jk everyone.)

Onlyhuman

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, wcv, now I'm mad at you because you managed to make those tears fall...

I just pictured the pain, shock and disbelief that Amy would feel if she knew what Marcellus was saying about her...

Et tu, Marcellas?

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Guinevere - IMO, the majority rules in this case. It's up to the person to go to the group, rather than the group go to the person.

Snee

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
if the ass-kicking fits... *wink*

Battlestar

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Learn from them??? Learn how to take naked showers with other women?? Learn how to paint peanut butter on her nether regions??

so many important things to learn.....

They all need to learn to have fun and not take it all quite so seriously---cause none of them seem capable of it except AMY

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Wcv, but I don't do the pity party thing, with anyone, not just Amy.

Onlyhuman

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire...I'm not saying Marcellus shouldn't have feelings, but why can't he just talk to HER about some of this? Tonight at dinner, she said that maybe Roddy was right, maybe she is selfish and he said "No" very quickly. How is she supposed to know that he is frustrated if he just talks about her behind her back?? And to the very people he knows take pleasure in making fun of her?

It just seems so...petty, I guess. Or just unecessary. I just know it's hurtful to people and I don't understand why they do it. There's no strategy or benefit to be gained from it. Amy is leaving on Thursday, they all know it. It becomes cruel and vicious after a while...

Wcv63

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, I wasn't talking about Amy. I thought *we* were friends. Besides, I meant it as a joke.

Sorry, Onlyhuman. I am chastising myself for making you cry.

Snee

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree, onlyhuman. it's not just that marce is saying this stuff behind her back, but that he's saying it to the people who are nasty to her.

i also think the hg's could be decent to someone whom they've let know is going out unanimously.

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv - Ok, I understand now.

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whatever--Marcie's an evil human being, Amy is a saint, and the other girls are sl*tt* wh*r*s. How this again managed to turn into another "Chi Chi is nasty" thread is beyond me. I think Amy *is* self-centered, she hasn't made an effort, and I'm glad she's going.

Onlyhuman

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's okay, wcv...you may have posted the words but you certainly didn't do the action.

I can place the blame where it belongs...it's all Ryan's fault...(j/k Ryan:) )

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm the board whipping boy...I'm Jason! LOL

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here she is on feed for for all this time talking to Roddy, and the poor guy has been able to say I think 25 words.

As for her not getting to know other people I think is sorta valid if this conversation with Roddy is any example of her normal talks. I mean she is going on and on about herself, and he can't interject anything at all. Add to that when Chiar made an effort and talked to her for like 2 hours one night listening to her talk about x's, and her family, and school, and her whole life, and Chaira said that I know all this stuff about her, but she doesn't know anything about me.

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The next one to who kicks Ryan's butt has to go through my butt first. :)

Keiffer

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One last thing. Why do we make excuses for Amy's behavior... things like her tough life, allways getting picked on, or whatever we say to make alright her bad behavior. But when Chiara, or Lisa or any of the other women do something we don't like we just bash them for it?

I suppose people have to have their favorites, but hypocraxy is hypocracy.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sigh I agree oregon, I think both sides just like to defend the others...there have been many kiki bashing threads and some even go as far as to call her 'chiapet' in live feed updates...no one else gets a nasty nick name in a place thats not suppose to be about that stuff.
As for crying about this stuff....I don't think I care THAT much about these people...they really are just entertainment not a good cross section of real people in the US or at least I hope not!(maybe you need some canadian's in that house for some good ole fashioned politeness eh?)

Scorpiomoon

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hahahaha!!

I just saw the look on Roddy's face. He looks like he wants to slash his wrists right about now.

I think Amy just wants to say everything she has ever wanted to say--get it all out--before she leaves. I don't blame her. Don't leave with regret.

Kmjm

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy is now in an endless loop- she's repeating the same things over and over to Roddy. He finally said "Amy you already TOLD me that". He's not behaving too badly, actually. She's someone I can feel a lot of empathy for, and who cares if she gets tipsy, but someone needs to tell her to stop running off at the mouth!

Wcv63

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer this has been addressed. It's our tendancy to view things as saints vs. sinners.

I'm aware of falling into this trap and I'm sure others are as well.

Each of us takes a little bit of ourselves into this game and uses that to identify in some way with the houseguests.

Cute1073

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah, finally Amy is showing regret about what she has said about people in the DR
Amazing!
she says being verbally abusive is her defense mechanism, at least she can admit it...Man she IS drunk, lol

Kappy

Monday, July 29, 2002 - 12:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Go back through this thread and it was a ChiChi-lover/Amy-hater who brought Chiara into this, not Amy supporters.

Ugh ~ But then I should probably thank those people for ticking me off because now I'll get to sleep before 1:00 am, lol!