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Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, I figure this thread is long overdue. I keep watching, I keep coming here to vent (I love u guys lol). I figure the topic may change but the need to WHINE doesn't. So here are things currently driving me nutz.

Tonya has now droned on about her $4,000 exotic cat (no saving an animal from a shelter from our classy lady here). I don't think anyone else had said anything for the last half hour. They have probably lapsed into a coma too. Beyond her boobs, does anyone see any reason why she was cast?

Whine 2: Why do they have 12 people in the house and almost always are showing only ONE group or conversation. I can't believe there isn't more talk going on in there (and I hope it's better than what I'm usually seeing).

Whine 3: Where are the assignments from BB to get these folks interacting, most especially folks from different sides of the fence? Last year we had stuff...stupid stuff but stuff nonetheless..the questions, the idiotic seance (I take that subject seriously), and so on. So far we had nests that resulted in alliances when no one knew anyone.

Ok done for now...am certain I'll have more later.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well..on a positive note..we did find those women that men in Penthouse write about..

Ddsbarefootagn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, maybe BB is hoping this pack will devour each other so no need for interaction??? lol

I missed the part about $4,000 cat. (I could make a very tacky remark about that, but Ryn would probably take away all my privileges, so I won't!) From what I've read, Tonya is a very shallow individual. Her wants are a house, flashy jewelry, etc.

I thought last year's group was bad, but this group - they barely trip the moral meter.

Micknrc

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just posted this convo in LFP....


The cat convo is excruciating and goes to prove what I already knew:
Tonya is the most shallow, undereducated, money conscious, self-absorbed, feather-brained twit on the face of the earth--and the MOST annoying part is that she truly believes that she is hot s**t.

I can't count the times when she (and lori and other HGs) have not known what the most basic conversational references are to or about.

And now that we are getting another convo on feed 4 it's Gerri and Lori again...and I've had to listen to her repeat her three basic themes all morning already.....

Halfunit

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk,

I started typing 4 different times and cancelled them out, but it was along the lines of what you are saying!!

My first thought was that I wish TPTB (The Powers That Be = Shapiro, producers, interns, anyone!!) would get Tonya under control when it comes to her ex... "For crying out loud Barbie, Ken has moved on !!!!!"

THEN, the part about the bengal... crikey! This woman is phonier than the feed loops they keep playing and think that we're buying that it's live.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Stop the insanity !!!!!!!!!!

Willabemine

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Mick,
You're right they are idiots! I sent in my tape but didn't get called when I read the bios and heard them speak I know why I wasn't called. I'm too intelligent. I would have probably confused most of them when I started speaking. I'm not bitter. I'm glad. If you wanted confrontation I would have been the one to give it. I would probably not have had the self-control to keep my mouth shut about how stupid and self-centered they are. Is it any wonder Tonya has had all these men problems?

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
WOW they have another conversation on another feed??? WooHoo...I finally couldn't take any more of the cat conversation (which was on all feeds) and just closed out BB. One good thing about this BB...it's making work seem less boring :)

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk- work? THAT's why I am sitting in this office and not in my Robe with BonBons in front of my computer at home..}

Kstme

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is there a baseball game on yet?

My RealPlayer hasn't been back to BB since the second day.

I REALLY, SERIOUSLY keep asking myself if I ever acted like any of these people when I was their age. NOPE and I was part of Hippy Dippy, Flower Power, Free Love And Worry About Tomorrow Next Year generation!

Don't we ALL just want to be like, you know, airheads and have bodies by Fischer(old saying)? Our values so skewed, our cat is like, you know, more important, you know, than our families?

Foodbunny

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I love bengals, but if she spent $4,000 on one she got ripped off BIG TIME. Both my cats and both my dogs are shelter mutts and I love them to death but eventually I'd like to ahve a bengal just because Ilike the idea of having a water cat.

Mindyrama

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I can see why I didn't get picked too. I made it to the semi-finals, and now that I see what they were looking for, man, I didn't have a chance in hell! Sheesh. And ya know what?...looking at who I'da had to live with, I think I'm glad (even if I am still desparate for cash.) Pffft!

Iceprincess

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Kstme,

I *AM* their age and I KNOW I don't act like that. HOWEVER, my exhusband is JUST like the guys in there. All sex all the time. He even told me once...well if you really want a laugh email me and I will tell ya. Anywho, those people enforce my PERSONAL belief that all men want are sex and women like that give us a BAD NAME!!! I was so sickened by the convo. that I turned it off. Not that I am a prude, but that it was WAYYYYYYY too much information. I mean honestly do you after a week of knowing someone tell them you like it up the bum?? Or after a few days of knowing a gay person ask if they are a giver or a reciever???? It is just NOT right. But this is my belief. I like to watch BB for the interpersonal relationships not the T&A.

Willabemine

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sex Sells... that's what Shapiro and the gang think. However, if this continues all they are doing is confirming what some people think about Reality TV. I love BB but this is sick. Hell, even Shannon had more modesty than this at least she picked someone and stuck with them at least on the show. If I acted like that I'd go home to find my family had gone into hiding. Tonya is setting such a fine example for her children. How to be a woman and how to treat women.

Luvscoutii

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You have to remember that they were in the house I think 5 days before they started broadcasting so it's been roughly two weeks now that they've been getting to know each other. It's not like they can have time to themselves or get away from each other so I would think that forced isolation with each other all the time would open a lot more conversation gateways than under normal circumstances.

Tabbyking

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
did that cat sign a waiver?
and why all the 'ex' talk, unless she is still in love with him? she has a current boyfriend, right? this david guy we seem to hear less and less about. doesn't even rank up there with her cat. neither do the kids, come to think of it. except that she mentioned once she helps her 6-year old daughter shave her legs. wow! that's a normal mother-daughter experience!

Yankee_In_Ca

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
kstme -- I thought I was the only one. I haven't turned on the BB feeds since the second day, either (though I have come here from time to time to read live feed posts).

I am NO prude and am not easily shocked by nudity and sex talk. BB3 doesn't shock me -- unless you count my shock at how transparent the houseguests are in their quest for air time. I do, however, find myself turned off by the seemingly-prevailing attitude that a perfect outside equals overall perfection and some sort of superiority -- and that there seems to be little true regard (or value held) for intelligence, kindness or meaningful interaction in this group/game.

These people are clearly acting for the cameras, as evidenced by the "I think we gave them enough material today" comments. And everyone knows that sex sells, right?

I was one of the people who were initially drawn to BB as a sociological experiment -- I found it fascinating to see how people reacted and acted when forced to co-exist in a small space with no outside contact.

The show as it exists today seems to be aimed square at the "sex sells" mantra.

Well, sex may sell, but in this case, it's not interesting to me. I don't think it's sick; it's not a moral judgment -- just not where my interests lie. I will be cancelling my Real Player after the two week trial -- it's getting no use now.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah but the problem is half of them are brain dead and their idea of conversation is sex talk PERIOD. The few with brains are either scared to use em cause they don't want to alienate themselves from the perverts, or they have rotted from lack of use (they also had the hotel time before this to atrophy lol).

And Ice...I respectfully (honest) disagree with you. While men may certainly be sexual animals hehe, I think there are A LOT of men out there with a lot of depth and personality to them. I keep a few as good friends. You hose em down, they are great to deal with LOL. I actually wanted one to apply for the show last year (he would have fit the Hardy role nicely...has the looks, but also is a HELL of a nice guy with a LOT more personality and smarts. He also is very spiritual). This year I didn't even suggest he apply I was too scared for him if he got in.

I just still don't understand why they can't find us interesting people and create some interesting situations in the house. It seems SOOO simple to me. If Arnie wanted his eye candy FINE (not my choice but for arguments sake fine), but couldn't he have gotten some eye candy with DEPTH?

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
uh Lurk.. you can send your friend my way..I promise.. I'll be nice.. I'll be verrrrrrrrrryyyy nice oh wait no

Ryn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whine # 3 -- Most of the stuff you are speaking of - the games, came after the HGs had been whittled down a bit and they were tired of the same old stories from each other ;)

This is the 11th day of their captivity (including Saturday night when they entered).

They have been together 24x7 though - if you un-compressed that it would easily eaqul a month or more of normal time people spend together (or even longer). Not that I am excusing their open ness when it comes to discussing everything under the sun.

Grannygrunt

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I guess I will just in there with all of ya'll. I was so excited for the start of BB3. I had everything ready. Got roadrunner for better feed. New computer to handle all I wanted to do. Signed up for RealPlayer and even posted on the live feeds for a few days. After about Sunday or Monday I thought "Why am I doing this?" I wouldn't post half of the stuff they talked about (after a while the language and sex talk bores a person to tears.) I have Direct TV and can rent Playboy Movies if that's what I want but I thought I was gonna watch a game show about strategy and wits. And so far all I've seen is playboys and •••$. I've cut RealPlayer off also and will be canceling before my 2 weeks is up and give up the 30 extra days RealPlayer gave me for having so much trouble downloading it and getting it to work. All of that for this???????? Give me a break.

Lurknomore

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh but Granny, the "why" is so we can have the fun we do here INSPITE of Arnie, the feeds, the show etc. I'm probably a fool, but I'm holding out some hope if they weed out some of the idiots things might get more interesting (let a girl dream over here).

And Zachsmom...sorry, I was an only child...I don't share well :) Well actually I do, but not some things teheeeheeee

Iceprincess

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk,

I know deep in my heart not ALL men are like that, but living out here where I am and my past experiences, then to see it on TV it sure feels that way.

-------my rant------
I understand that they are together 24-7 and that 11 days can be like months. But I don't know if I could reveal to them some of the things I had done or happened to me sexually. I feel it is none of their business. That is where they differ from me. I respect myself more then to put it out there for all of America to see. If that is how they are then fine and dandy, which is why I turn it off when they get into those conversations. I honestly do not care about their sex lives.

On the other hand, THEY and only THEY are doing this to themselves. They decided to become a hamster and let people watch them. If they can't handle the criticism tough. It is not MY fault Chiapet explained her code and we could figure it out, it is not MY fault that they showed them undressing. BUT WE can get called names for being "internet freeks" because WE watch, yet it is WE who are in part paying them by buying the sponsors products or paying for the feeds. Which in part I believe this is why none of them can make it in Hollywood. The houseguests should remember wholeheartedly, NEVER BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!

I love BB for the interaction and the scheming, I thought about cancelling my feeds, but then again it is only the first week. I decided to just turn off what I don't want to watch and to keep caught up I read the LFs. All in all it has provided a ton of entertainment if you are watching at the right moment, some of the one-liners are PRICELESS. Those are the moments I love to watch unfold.

Am I upset with the FOTH...YEP but looks like they talked to Tonya about talking about her EX. Cause it has not been as much.

Am I upset with the way the women and men act...YEP but this is them, now their friends may say ohhhh nooooo they REALLY don't act this way. My answer to that is BS then QUIT ACTING. I watch the show for that, not the sex. Call a spade a spade if you act like an idiot on the show then they ARE an idiot IMHO. They would have to prove otherwise, someone's word is not what I consider PROVING it.

Ok I am sorry I am ranting...

Kris

Kstme

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm going to do a little rant about the "cat" too!

Do you know how STUPID it is to "privately" own a tiger, lion or any other exotic animals?

These animals are up for sale EVERY day and by the time the animal is under two years old "most" owners can no longer control them and don't know what to "do" with them! "Most" owners have them declawed and/or defanged for "safety" reasons, leaving the animal defenseless! Zoos don't want them and animal sanctuaries are overrun with them! Just because they "appear" cute and cuddly for a few months, they most likely will be destroyed by the age of two!

Unfortunately, Tonya is not far from the "typical" private owner!

Oh geez, I'm steaming...so I'll close without doing my two hour dissertation!

Buzzelda

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is totally thoughtless to attempt domesticating a wild animal, but what do we expect from a mother of five children, one only four years old who leaves them for three months to strut around half (and sometimes totally) nude.

This woman is clueless and it is very, very sad for her children.

Maris

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She isnt clueless, she is self involved and if I got one thing out of the last ten days it is that Mama comes first as well as the two carat ring. I suspect the children figure into monthly checks and that is it. The kids are her income.