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Kalekona

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
patman- isn't that exactly what l and c are doing to Danielle? they have no intention of letting her go any farther than they want her to. there is no difference here.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya I agree with Kalekona..Danielle/marcie/jason are using Lisa and Chiara to attempt to get rid of Roddy because he is the biggest threat

And Lisa and Chiara already said they will keep Danielle around..they said probably the final 5 and then dump her..they said they needed her now

They are using each-other to get rid of the biggest threats or the people they have a problem with

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's the name of the game isn't it...Lie, Lie, Lie...there's nothing wrong with that. Personally the only time I get angry is when they start on personal character assasinations. I don't think any of them should be telling the honest truth to each other because you can't trust anyone. Why would you? It always makes me laugh when posters want the hgs to be totally honest with each other because nice people don't lie, but this is not real life. This is a game and if they don't lie then they are essentially saying "here I want you to have $500,000 because I won't comprimise my priciples by lying even though I know everyone else is lying." You make alliences for the purpose of getting yourself ahead not for getting the other person ahead, and since you are both doing it for the same reason why isn't this fair?

Patman

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, that's what Roddy was trying to get across to Chiara (he failed miserably) that you have to treat people as threats and votes, not down gender lines automatically. He sees where L and C are pulling D into their girl power clique blindly, and is worried that his power base is shifting. But remember, their (E/L/R/C) alliance wasn't on gender lines, per se, but on mutual attraction. D is solely playing the gender line, moreso than L and C (who don't really have a strategy, just hang out for the summer type of attitude). I would call D the Silent Infiltrator/Instigator of BB3. She's quite the social chameleon, but I think she's no Will, and will eventually have her cover blown, and it won't be pretty.

Wendo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
So, now that the Mar/Amy brouhaha is over and the HG's are all touchy feely, I thought I'd resurect my Danielle is Goooood thread. Many have commented in the Amy thread about how well Dan mediated tonight. However, were they true feelings or, does Danielle have ulterior motives.

I think it's both. I do think that Dan, as a mother, could see Amy was suffering and that Amy and Mar are friends. So, she wanted to get things resolved as soon as possible.

But, I also believe that Danielle, more than any other HG's is always thinking about the game. And, tonight she was. Someone posted that Dan knew it was important to get this resolved b/c she wanted to ensure that Mar stays in and she needs him. By doing what they did tonight, Amy is guaranteed to go and her guy stays. Plus, she gets points from Amy, possible future jury vote.

C'mon, ya gotta admit, this woman is GOOOOOD.

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
see it's interesting....someone in the other thread asked if they thought Chiara had alterior motives and i didn't think so.....with Dan however, I do think she is smart enough and savvy enough to be thinking ahead in the game....It may be highly possible she had alterior motives in this whole broo ha ha. She may not have planned the 'intervention' (chiara did) but she did start up the whole confrontation...very interesting...Danielle makes me go hmmmmmm

Wendo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute, I'm with you, I don't think Chi has ulterior motives. She just hasn't exhibited that kind of cunning and deviousness.

But, with Dan, I think it's highly possible. I do note that I do think she truly wanted to help Amy feel better, but also knew she could capitalize on it. And, that's the name of the game. Take advantage when you can.

Danielle is so fun to watch. You get annoyed with her, frustrated, mad, but then you also feel impressed with her game skill, manipulation, and all around being able to control things. And, it's all about control.

Where she's bound to run into trouble is with Roddy. Roddy's as strong and competitive as her. He's always thinking of the game too. And, he's already started working the let's put Danielle up on the chopping block angle.

I really feel the true competition (to date) will be between these two...

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I really think danielle has a good chance for this year...she is a smart cookie..but you're right about Roddy...he seems to know what he's doing too.

Floresmama

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if we are really looking for the ones with ulterior motives. I wouldn't lay it at Danielle's feet I would put it at the feet of the person who acted completly different than she had up until this point and that is Chiara.

I don't really think any of them were working it too hard tonight. I think we actually heard some genuine feelings.

Riviere

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle is very smart to see the Flintstones and Rubbles as only core-4 threats! She could see thru Chiara & Lisa, she helps them in this so called Girl Power plan and she's shooting herself in the foot. If Dani thinks like me she might have already seen how Roddy & Eric think, they are like star football players, it's cool to date the cheerleaders but in the big game plan the ladies are expendable!!! Wow, if Dani can convey this to Jason, Gerry, Marcellas, Josh, they could have the biggest alliance. But Josh is probably too dumb to see he's just a Roddy pawn. I wish I knew if Dani does have a secret alliance with anyone yet! Outsiders caught playing all sides against others usually find themselves outside permanently.. Hope Dani stays awhile, she's making things very fun!!! :)

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
sorry floresmama, I already pointed this out on another thread but i will again. I really like chiara but I honestly don't think that she has the forsight to make this into something else. I don't think she was looking for votes for the final meeting, and I don't think she was trying to get Roddy to like her more like some have said.....What I think Chiara was doing was she saw someone hurting and wanted to make her feel better because she knows she would be upset in that situation too.

danielle however really kinda started the whole deal....and I do think she is smart and I do think its possible that she could have been thinking of the ways that this situation could help her. Danielle is the one to watch!

Wendo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Floresmama, I'm not saying that we didn't hear genuine feelings tonight. I totally agree with you that we did.

I just feel that Danielle, knowing what we know about her to date, that her mind was running 100 miles a minute. Calculating and evaluating the situation. I said in the Amy thread, I'll be real interested to see Danielle's diary room entries tomorrow and Thursday night. It wouldn't surprise me at all to hear her utter, "three down, seven to go" in relation to tonights events.

Regarding Chiara, I agree, completely different behavior tonight. I'll be watching her diary room and live feed talks closely. I just think she hasn't shown this kind of cunning behavior where as Danielle has.

(edited b/c I hit the button to soon)

Jojo

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also don't think that Chiara had any ulterior motives this evening. Her strategies in the game seem to come more from emotions than from the brain.

When Dani went out and pulled Amy into the house with her "nip it in the bud" spill, she was playing the game. She knows what happens when emotions and tempers flare the night before a vote (she had visions of Tonya dancing in her head). She had to do something to calm Marc down before he said something that might alter some votes. I do think that the mother in her eventually took over in the mediation.

Dani has been playing a great game, but made a huge error last evening with "the Rodfather". Checking his frig for beer last evening, has made her his next target. He doesn't like it when someone calls him on anything. He never forgot about Tonya getting on him for saying f**k on the live show.

I have seen 3 conversations now where he is putting out Dani's name to be evicted next. The day before this all happened his conversations were about how much he loved Dani.

Dani's plan to have Josh or Gerry get HOH this week and have them nominate Rod and Lisa doesn't hold water. Josh will never win HOH unless the contest is about who can be the most annoying. Gerry has already made a deal with "the Rodfather" not to nominate him this week if he gets HOH.

Dani, Jason, or Marc are going to have to get HOH this week and put up Roddy this week. Otherwise I'm afraid every other week Roddy wiil win HOH just like Hardy did last year, and Dani will be his next target.

Thedunit

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle good? Good at what, laying low and thinking that she is the supreme being and has this game already dialed in? Laying at bed at night thinking of ways to spend your money that you have not won does not make you good. If she is as good as she thinks then she certainly has not shown it yet!

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
the bumpster

Spunky

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 01:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she is good when she is not directly involved, a good mediator, yes, but she could get mean if she is directly attacked. Look at how she reacted to Lori "Bring it into the open" with Gerry's handwashing matter. Do you remember her eyes popping out, I was afraid for a fist fight, but things calmed down fortunately.

But she knows how to play "neutral" and that's a good thing (Hey, I'm not Martha)

Auntie

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One thing that bothers me about Danielle is her tendency to express her irritation with people when the irritation is either irrelevant or somewhat dangerous. After Tonya left, she couldn't leave her disgust with Tonya. She seemed to harp on Tonya's bad points. She was saying all these negative things right in front of Chiara & Lisa, both of whom were disappointed that Tonya left. Today she seemed to keep bringing up Gerry's disgusting feet. Why? I thought she wanted to "use" Gerry as a shield. So, why not keep her mouth shut about his feet so that people would forget about him. She expressed her foot-fetish disgust to Josh, who was just reminded again of his own irritation with Gerry. Maybe she just wants to keep the pot boiling, but I think these kind of little jabs are going to get her into trouble.

Muse

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've noticed that as well, Auntie. I could understand that sort of behavior if she thought that criticizing another HG would help her...like commenting on Josh to Lisa and Chiara could help work things in her favor. But she often seems to go on about something that she really shouldn't. It's puzzling (to me, at least) because I feel like she's extremely good at playing the game...it seems like she should realize that keeping her mouth shut is sometimes the best course of action.

Anyway, on another note - I was happy to see Danielle say in tonight's episode that she is committed to her alliance with Jason. I've been wondering if she has any true loyalties, or if she was simply playing Marcellas and Jason, like all the others. It's nice to see her say that she intends to keep her word to someone. I can feel better about praising her for how she plays the game because of it. If that makes any sense. :)

Bmh

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Muse..Im glad Danielle is actually going to stay loyal to at least 1 person..so she isn't a complete backstabber..

oh and I dont understand some of the comments Dani makes about other people either because it doesn't help her..but Im kind of like Dani..and if a person has ugly/disgusting feet..I get all grossed out and cant be near them..I've always been like that..it's weird..so I can kind of see where she is coming from because something that really grosses you out..u just cant stop thinkin about..I wouldn't want to live with Gerry either

Earthmother

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think her comments do help her sometimes. To tell Josh her disgust of Gerry keeps Josh (who still really hate him) from thinking she will align with Gerry. She wants Josh and Gerry to be her allys against the 4, but she doesn't want each of them to know it. She would rather make these people think that if she got HOH that she would put him up and that could help her. We don't really know what she is thinking but she's no dummy.

Eden

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In my opinion, it's wrong for Roddy to target Danielle for nomination right now, especially since he is well aware of how the "girls" feel about seeing their numbers dwindle. Roddy needs to be patient, bide his time with Danielle (who I think has a great strategy) for at least one more week and push to vote out one of the guys next. He's feeling threatened by Danielle, and rightly so, but he shouldn't overeact and get ahead of himself. The person he most needs to get rid of now is Josh. Josh is nothing but a liability, at this point, to everyone in the game. Gerry then becomes the swing vote and I think Danielle along with Marcellas can turn him to their side, but I don't think Roddy realizes that.

If Danielle goes too soon the drama in this game is over. I'd love to see her take out at least one of the "fab four".

Patman

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Just put Josh and Danielle up for eviction and sit back and watch the fireworks. Heh heh.

Draheid

Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or for more fireworks let someone nominate Roddy and Danielle and see what happens...