Archive through August 01, 2002
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Archive through August 01, 2002
Stargazer | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:18 pm     Oh the one good thing that I liked tonight was it finally showed why Chia started not liking Amy. When Amy said she tried to talk to Roddy but then Chia came up with the mad look and off he went. That was good, showed Chia's jealous side and then Chia saying that she did have a hand in Amy being put up for nomination. |
Tabbyking | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:22 pm     mystery, quick making bubbles come out my nose! |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:24 pm     I don't like the Chiara that I read about in the live feeds in fact she is my least favorite player. Maybe it is here mouth or maybe it is the way she lets Roddy control her. Ok here goes, I am going to compliment her. What she did for Amy in gathering everyone around and getting them to tell her a good thing that they thought of her was very nice. They don't hide the fact that they don't care for each other so I think it was very big of her to do that. I hope they show it on the show tomorrow night. Ok I am going to bed now because I must need sleep. |
Willsmom | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:35 pm     I do not have the live feeds but have read some of the transcripts of Chiara's behavior. I don't care how CBS tried to portray her ..as the fun party girl or whatever, but it still shocked me to hear her talk about her "experiences." If that is just a fun party girl then I cannot imagine what a "painted" woman does! I don't agree with Amy's drinking, but Chiara is just too much and very much so in the dark about herself and her behavior. |
Eden | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:37 pm     The editing definitely favors Chiara...making her out as lovestruck and sexually "playful". But then they have little choice since so many of the things that actually come out of her mouth are not airable at all. They certainly haven't shown the extreme extent to which she "teases" Jason. And little of the equally vindictive and catty comments she's made about Amy. If you are just watching the TV show you have a very skewed version of the "reality" of this game. |
Texastillie | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 08:54 pm     Behavior Score 1-10: We see on live feeds: Amy - 4 Chiara - (10) Shown on TV: Amy - 4 (a gain of -0-) Chiara - 4 (a gain of 14) Editing was definitely in favor of Chiara! |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:07 pm     They did leave one thing out of the Amy/Roddy talk that would have made her look worse. She talked about how she was "drop dead gorgeous" in high school. It may be true, but it come across as pretty conceited to me. The editors did her a favor by leaving it out. |
Earthmother | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:20 pm     I figure it's even though because they didn't put in "Hey Jason do want me to give you a BJ." lol |
Snee | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 10:37 pm     chiara looked to me like a modern young women with a healthy 'sex in the city' attitude toward sex. amy looked like a prude. amy called kiki a wh*re and trash. kiki called herself a wh*ore then explained that this was a joke. kiki then called amy an f'n b*tch which just looked like a defense for the wh*re/trash thing. we don't see why amy thinks kiki is a ... just the titillating but not over the top stuff they can show on tv. we can see why kiki thinks amy is an ... chiara looked vulnerable when talking about roddy. then possessive and unpleasant when he and amy were talking. amy looked fun with marcellas and self aware when she said she was going out because of her own behaviour. that's the snee analysis. i thought they both had good and bad moments in tonight's edit, but kiki came out ahead. |
Lurknomore | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 11:21 pm     Actually tonight was interesting. I went out with a few friends(taped BB but the blasted tape ran out with 15 minutes left ARGGHH...i'm passing through on my way to the show recap thread). During the night I mentioned that I was actually missing Big Brother for this so they should be honored lol. Two of the folks knew of my addiction, but the third, who I NEVER would have thought was into BB got all excited and said OH you watch that too? Needless to say we got into a chat about it. If you are all wondering I'm about to go on topic here lol. She doesn't have the feeds and only watches the shows. She thought Chiara is SOOOOOO nice and just kinda "fun wild." When I started telling her what a WITCH (w was NOT the first letter I used trust me) she was stunned. We didn't go through the entire house, as another friend of mine who thinks I'm out of my mind for being addicted to BB looked like he was about to kill me for going on about it lol, but I was amazed at her wrong impressions for the some of the HG's. So I brought her up to speed on some of it. So if we ever doubted that those without the feeds and this forum are getting a different perspective this sure confirmed it. |
Orwellsvision | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:29 am     Earthmother: Did you just say that Chiara offered to give Jason a "BJ"????!! Oh my, I must have missed that! Why would she say something like that when she knows it makes him terribly uncomfortable?? |
Abigail1970 | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:38 am     I think the show last night made Chiara look stupid. They showed her talking about swinging with other partners. I'm all for 'to each his own' but I personally thought that made her look like a ho. I would be so embarassed as her parents to hear my daughter on national TV talking about swapping sex partners. I was glad BB finally showed some negative aspects of Chiara rather than all the cutesy stuff. |
Strkaholic | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:52 am     Orwell..IMHO, everytime I have heard C say anything sexual to Jason it has been in a joking manner and she has not been the only...the men are often as bad about saying things like that to Ja (not that they will give him a BJ..but general sex talk with him). C & J do joke a lot about it and usually, when he tells her he is uncomfortable..she stops. IMO C & J have a good relationship in the house. |
Nutsy | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 07:58 am     I was amazed that after everything they showed Chiara talking about, CBS still attempted to portray her in a positive "girl next door" light. I'm so glad that this thread was here this morning. I thought it was just Amy and I thinking that Chiara really didn't have any class. |
Eden | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 08:58 am     Strk from what I saw last night, I think Jason doesn't say much to Chiara about her inappropriate and unwanted, and to my mind disrespectul, remarks because he is well aware of her position in the house and basically he's a really nice guy. I think he takes a lot of her "teasing" because he's biding time and genuinely doesn't want to hurt anyone's feelings no matter how apparently unaware or uncaring they are of his. "I've never met anyone like her before", he's said that several times. Yeah, I bet he hasn't and hopes he doesn't again anytime soon. |
Bmh | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:01 am     They edit Chiara the way they do..because as she has said before..she was suppose to be cast as the girl next door role..and obvioulsy Arnie made a mistake because Chiara is no girl next door..thats for sure..she is more like the ho next door..but Arnie still wants her to be the girl next door role..so he tries his best to edit her as the girl next door with a sexy edge..but as you and I know the chiara on tv is a angel compared to the one of the live feeds |
Mslyegirl | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:12 am     I am new to the site and have posted a few times but I have to say I feel so at home here. As I was watching the show last night I was yelling to my husband in the other room about how they are making Amy look so bad with her references to 'Chihora' and then showing the other HG refering to Chiara's behavior as 'innocent fun'. Give me a break!!! No respecting woman, knowing she is being watched by millions of people, uses the word c*nt or c*ck, or (insert any disgusting word/story that she has told in the past month). How humiliating. The brief snippet about Chiara's partner swapping was so quick, I am sure most people didn't even catch it. Now, Amy is leaving and the tandum of R/L/C/E have the nerve to threaten people with eviction if they don't do what they want. Also, all that talk about people knowing not to mess with Chiapet b/c R would come after them. What a joke!! He is looking out for numero uno and no one else. PLEASE, if there is anything just and right about this world those four will go out in one fell swoop. There, I've vented. I feel much better. LOL!! |
Spunky | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 09:38 am     The editing was boring, I found, but Amy explaining in the DR about Chiara should have told us the truth, even though the scene favored Chiara. We are really watching the show to see what they say in the DR and what they'll show from what you see on the Live Feeds. I must confess they know how to join those DR monologues to the various scenes..even if sometimes they are not related. |
Luvscoutii | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:32 am     You know, I read the live feed from the posters (always grateful) which are not supposed to be colored by opinions (everyone is very good about it) and honestly I don't think she's some sexual sleaze ball that some people seem to be inntonating here. Maybe it's just that I'm somewhat close to her age and have had my own wild and crazy times. I think if anything, she makes it kind of interesting. Talking about sex and sexual experiences especially with friends (the people in the house are the only friends on hand) is very natural and if the people are responsive to you then, you'll continue to do it. How realistic do you think the editing was or were the hgs lying when responding to Chiara's behavior on tv last night?? The people that responded (Dani, Lisa, Josh, and Rod I think were the only ones shown with comments?) seemed to not be bothered with her behavior. Dani mentioned she felt that her stories/acting were done comically. It seems like they all suspect she does it perhaps over the top for perhaps the shock factor. Any thoughts? |
Nutsy | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:49 am     If it's done for shock factor, or if it's the truth, it still has the same effect for me. I have far more interesting things to discuss with my friends; and honestly, I wish she'd talk a little more about ANYTHING else. Surely she has other hobbies? Or maybe that is just wishful / wistful thinking. |
Oregonfire | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 10:57 am     I was a little suprised that the showed that Chiara/Lisa lotion scene...I thought that was a little more Showtime, not primetime! And I think they kept on looping back through the moaning part! Talk about a bit uneasy. I was glad that they showed Marcie disagreeing with Amy about Chiara being sleazy. I had noticed that he got pretty quiet when she would bash Chiara. Whether he is genuinely disapproving of Chiara bashing or is trying to save face with the banished HGs who like Chiara I guess is open to speculation. I suspect that whoever is slated to be evicted each week is going to get more negative editing than usual. I think that they did show some of the reasons that Amy was being evicted, and they could have been more unkind to her. I did this the Marcie/Amy dinner was not edited nicely though; the conversation was more give and take than they portrayed. |
Jane_Bond | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:00 am     I'm going to bring up the Chiara-Jason thing again, cuz I there is an aspect of this that I haven't seen adressed, yet: If Chiara was a man and Jason a woman and their behaviour was exactly the same as it is now, what would we (and Arnie Shapiro) be saying about it? If a sexually liberal man "came on to" an openly celibate woman repeatedly "jokingly" referring to bjs, rug munching (why isn't their a better slang for that!), water sports, etc, it would be considered a serious case of sexual harrassment. The fact that Jason is a man does not excuse Chiara's actions as a sexual predator. In fact, that whole "just joking" bit is an attempt to downplay the seriousness of the situation. Above all else, this is Chiara's main fault - she has no respect for anyone, including herself. |
Bunyun | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:06 am     The problem I have with Chiapet and her mouth is, grant you young people talk about sex with each other. BUT!!!! the "young lady" KNOWS she is being watched 24/7. She KNOWS she has a humungus audience. Not just friends. It was said back when the show started that each houseguest has a secret. Some may revel their secrets, some may not. Chi to me sound like she is a paid street walker. The foulness that comes out of her in public makes her sound like a workin lady for sure. Just my nickles worth..... |
Azriel | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:07 am     Luvscoutii, although the feeds are supposed to be unbiased straight dialogue and actions of the HGs, the majority of our live feed posters are uncomfortable typing up the crude sex language and antics in the house and they will either give a synopsis of the sex talk without the vulgarities or switch feeds. I don't blame them at all for feeling this, by the way, and I still think we get a fairly clear and full picture of what's going on. But, this might be one reason why you don't see the extent to which Chiara talks about sex and teases Jason in the feeds. |
Oregonfire | Thursday, August 01, 2002 - 11:12 am     I have a problem with the Jason harassment too. I think at this point it's Big Brother's responsibility to step in and say something to Chi Chi in the DR. I know that can cause major trouble ("Who told BB that I was bothering Jason!!" I can just see it), but they can't really monitor each other for fear of being ostracized and possibly thrown out of the house. It's a sticky situation indeed. |
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