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Max

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've had that and it is what came to mind when I saw the first screen cap of Lisa's "condition." Nothing too major, but it is irritating and embarrassing.

Flyonthwall

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa now has the most famous butt in world history! LOL

Ryanc, you made me laugh!
Have a good day!

FLy

Sia

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, don't you mean "Happy-Happy, Joy-Joy?" (Where are Ren and Stimpy NOW?)

Tracic67

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hate to kill the Shingles theory, but... Normally Shingles is prone to the elderly, yet in some cases (very rarely) it does appear on young adults. Unfortunatly, I had experience with this as a teenager, so I know a lot about it. It works like Chicken Pox, it is from the same viral family, and it spreads all over the body, it does not localize and also very painful, not like Chicken Pox, where you just itch like crazy. Shingles is brought out by an overwhelming feeling of stress, which I don't see her really experiencing. If Lisa had shingles she wouldn't be able to sit down, and she would have been prescribed medication and it would be all over her body, not just on her hiney (hehe). Sorry but I beleive she has something else....what? I have no idea, yet! Just thought I would throw my two cents in.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have to disagree. I know two people (ages 31 and 34) who were diagnosed with shingles and they both had it on one localized area. They also had differing degrees of pain. Apparently different people can have different experiences with it, just like with chicken pox. I had it all over my body (the chicken pox, not the shingles), but some kids don't get it quite so severely.

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sia - Last time I saw it was on MTV under the title "Ren & Stempy Rocks" (I realize you probably weren't really looking for an answer.)

Blinky

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like peanut butter poisoning to me

Ddr1135

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First Gerry's hands, then Tonya's b**bs, then Chiara's mouth, now Lisa's butt.........what's next?

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh's Co...nevermind!

Crazyfan

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My husband was exposed to fumes from a paont shop and got Shingles. It will appear on the face or belly. This is not common on the but. I am not sure of the spelling but it sounds like emphitigo(?) You see this most common on children around the chin and mouth. I don't know if you can get it on the butt? Any nurses out here?

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey crazy fan, I will be a nurse in less than a year so I hope I qualify (in my fourth year of my nursing degree)

I looked it up:

Herpes Zoster (shingles): An acute viral disease caused by a nerpesvirus (same virus that causes chickenpox); characteristics include inflammation of spinal ganglia and a vesicular eruption along the area of distribution of a sensory nerve (ed: basically an irritant on the nerve cell) It may appear in persons who have been exposed to chickenpox and it sometimes accompanies other diseases such as pneumonia, tuberculosis, and lymphoma or is triggered by trauma or injection of certain drugs. In some cases it appears without any apparent reason for activation.
Herpes zoster is a very exhausting disease, especially for elderly people, because the constant itching and pain are difficult to control, even with systemic analgesics in some cases. (Encyclopedia Dictionary of Medicine, Nursing, & Allied Health)

So, since you asked....thats what my book said. Don't know if these relate to Lisa's symptoms or not. It did say that this virus is very communicable so, if they even suspected it I can understand the percautions.
Also, I wonder if she's had any shots lately in the butt cheek? Maybe tetanus or something? The book did say that needles can activate it.

Sorry for the long post guys...just trying to help

Gina8642

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ohhhh

Shingles!!!

My roommate got shingles on her back. It looked a lot like Lisa's sore.

Shingles are very painful, and hard to treat.

Gotta go, need to go tape the show....

Gina8642

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BTW

My roommate with shingles was only about 23.

Her medication was topical, and only on the outbreak.

She had less stress in her life than being watched 24/7.

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sent an email out to an epidemiologist (MD) friend. they sent the foloowing response to me.

Definition: Shingles (herpes zoster) is a nerve infection caused by the chicken-pox virus. Shingles results from reactivation of the chicken-pox virus that remained in your body since you had chicken pox--perhaps many years ago.

Symptoms: The rash of shingles begins as red patches that soon develop blisters, often on one side of the body. The blisters may remain small or can become large. They heal in two to four weeks. They may leave scars.

Many patients mistakenly believe that "nervousness" causes shingles. this is wrong; shingles is a viral infection of a nerve and has nothing to do with being "nervous."

Shingles is often painful, this is because the virus travels along the nerve to get to the skin resulting in inflammation and damage to the nerve.

Crazyfan

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cute thank you for the time and effort. Any other ideas about this (sore)?

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it's a boil, because I've seen one and it looked just like that. The webmd description seems to back it up. If it is a boil, she might to have it lanced, and it would leave quite a scar. JMHO


from webmd.com: boil

Miller-Keane Medical Dictionary, 2000


(boil) a painful nodule formed in the skin by circumscribed inflammation of the dermis and subcutaneous tissue, enclosing a central slough or "core." Called also furuncle. Boils occur most frequently on the neck and buttocks, although they may develop wherever friction or irritation, or a scratch or break in the skin, allows the bacteria resident on the surface to penetrate the outer layer of the skin. A "carbuncle" CARBUNCLE is a group of interconnected boils arising in a cluster of hair follicles.
CAUSE. Most boils and carbuncles are caused by Staphylococcus aureus. When these bacteria gain entrance to the skin, the infection settles in the hair follicles or the sebaceous glands. To combat the infection, large numbers of leukocytes travel to the site and attack the invading bacteria. Some bacteria and white cells are killed and they and their liquefied products form pus. The body's defenses may succeed in overcoming the invaders so that the boil subsides by itself, or the pus may build up pressure against the skin surface so that it ruptures, drains, and heals.
Boils most often afflict healthy persons but occasionally their appearance is a sign that the resistance is low, usually as the result of poor nutrition or illness. Patients with recurrent boils should be suspected of being chronic staphylococcal carriers. The nose is the most common carriage site.
TREATMENT. In most cases a single boil is not serious and will respond to incision and drainage. Systemic antibiotics are also sometimes indicated. Although complications are rare, a boil on or above the upper lip, on the nose or scalp, or in the outer ear can be serious because in these areas infection has easy access to the brain. Other danger zones are the armpit, the groin, and the breast of a woman who is nursing. If bacteria from a boil enter the bloodstream, septicemia may result. (See also "blood poisoning" BLOOD POISONING.)

Crazyfan

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Boil (friction) too much spooning :( sorry I could not resist. Must be Amy rubbing off on me.

Flyonthwall

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazyfan...just watch out, Amy "rubbing" off on you might cause a boil!

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm oregon, thats a good possibility too...makes sense...can understand why boil would be too gross for her to talk about (and embarassed). We probably will never know but its funny we got so enthralled in Lisa's but cheek!
I like you're theory Crazyfan...too much spooning lol

Ginap

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ouch Oregon I had that only my doctor called it an abcess. No matter the name it hurts like hell. All I can say is that Lisa better be very careful to make sure everything is clean because it will come back again and again. I was getting one like once a month for about 5 months and it was miserable. And yeah they do like the butt. I had one there 3 times. Codeine does do a body good though :)

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A roommate of mine had one on her inner thigh and asked me to pop it. Ew Ew! Those things do not respond to "popping." Anyway, she was a very clean and healthy girl, and ended up having it lanced, but it left quite the scar.

I think this is definitely veering into the "too much information" category.

I think it may be Arnie Shapiro's decision not to make it public, whatever it is, because it'll make the HGs look like a leper colony--in his head, anyway.

Dagny

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She DID mention that it popped. A boil can pop on it's own if it's not lanced. Also hot/heat can cause a boil to come to a "head" and burst sooner, rather then later. She was told to lay in the sun, and use the hot tub...so that fits the boil theory as well.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hey, a boil is what tom the goat herder had on his neck--you know that scared all the other survivors?!

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A boil wouldn't cause her to feel sick and have pain going all through her leg, not to mention fever. I still suspect it was some kind of bite.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 07:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That makes sense about the heat thing, Dagny. What I more meant is that they can't be squeezed like a pimple...too deep under the surface. At least in my experience. Okay, that's quite enough!!! Sorry for the grossness everyone.