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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: CCCC (aka CHIARA'S CRASS, CRUDE COMMENTS): Archive through July 31, 2002

Suitsmefine

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara is the classic example of the kind of girl you do not want hanging around your boyfriend, your brother ,your father, your husband. I have to fight my gag reflex every time she opens her foul mouth. There is a big difference in flirting and being a total horndog...<this part was moderated> She calls Amy "white trash", while Amy may drink too much, at least she acts like a lady and can joke around without making the other HG's as well as the rest of us cringe in disgust...just my opinion

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Buttercup

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not sure it's been mentioned before, but when Chiara told Jason that he needs to get down on a girl and "eat her box," and she repeated it a few times--well, my respect for her was long long long gone. Well, it was probably gone before then, but it definitely sealed it.

Wink

Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 09:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Butter a comment like that makes me glad I don't have the live feeds. She has really crossed my boundaries with this one.

Seamonkey

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She's also put out there that Dani needs to eat Chiaras "box" to stay in the house.. joking, but
that sort of joking just gets SO tiresome. Also irritating when you are trying to talk to this sort of person and it is quite clear that, rather than listening to what you are saying, they are listening for a hook so they can make another innuendo filled comment.

Earthmother

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't figure out how she can say this stuff and think she appears to be witty or intelligent. I don't dislike this girl but I feel so sorry for her, as I can only assume that she has had no real upbringing. Am I just being old-fashioned? Has dignity for one's self really become a thing of the past?

Bandmom

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This girl is getting on my very last nerve! I was watching the feeds when she made the comment about "box-eating". It was disgusting!! No one sitting at the table laughed except Chiara. Dani didn't even look up when she said it and you could tell she was embarrassed by the comment. Like I said in another thread....I'd like to wash that girl's mouth out with soap!!!

Sia

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why don't people in the house confront Chiara about her potty-mouth? Don't you think that THIS might just be the issue that would allow Roddy to extricate himself from this extremely painful "relationship" and might just be the ticket for which he's been looking? If the Houseguests who find her constant sex-talk inappropriate, unwelcome, embarrassing (for themselves as well as for Chiara) would just SAY this to her it might kick up another fight. Chiara might just end up the next target for banishment. Roddy could say, "Hey, I tried to save you from eviction, but you sealed your own fate."

Color me hopeful!!

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
last night roddy was talking about how his family are still church going people and his dad works in the stock exchange. these were reasons he couldn't kiss her on tv. he even mentioned that they wouldn't be happy that he's sleeping with her every night. this is the least of his problems. just imagine how they feel about her trash mouth.

poor chiara trying to find herself (sort of like genet, minus the criminal element)

Costacat

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey Sia! You wrote just what I was thinking. I read about that last comment Chiara made to Danielle, and thought to myseld "goodness, that girl needs an intervention, and she needs it now!"

I don't remember where Chiara was raised (and really don't care much). And I'm not meaning to sound like a snob, but that girl talks like she's nuthin' but white trash. I think she'd be perfect on the Jerry Springer show.

Mods: I know I'm not supposed to dis' anyone, but Chiara is just asking for it. Does she ever say anything that is not a sexual innuendo or fishing for compliments?

Sisalou

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy doesn't seem to have a problem telling Chiara how to run her business why doesn't he tell her to cool it with sexual comments? Or has he?

Maybe I am old fashioned too because I can't for the life of me understand why she keeps doing it.
Actually it gets pretty boring after awhile.

I've put my foot in my mouth a few times (many) but I could always tell when I had done it. Seems to me like she could pick up on the body language of the others and cool it.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What surprises me is that seemingly no one has ever told her that the potty mouth thing is a problem. I mean, you can't talk like that on the job, unless your job entails a 1-900 number.

Katrina

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She must be doing it for effect there. I can't believe that she speaks that way around her mother, people she's doing business with, Roger's young sons, etc., etc. It must be some kind of attitude pushing the boundaries thing in the house.

And maybe she also speaks that way around people in her own age group in social situations. Apparently she views this as one big social situation, not a job or a public appearance.

It's weird that it's such an exaggerated affectation. It doesn't even match with her self-reported sexual experience. She's a big talker.

Off2cthwizrd

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Somewhere earlier in the live feeds, Chiara was talking about when she gets out of the house, and how people are going to be walking up to her and saying "Hey, I saw you on TV."

Does she not realize that they are going to be saying far worse things to her than that? I don't wish her bad, but what she is saying in the house is NOTHING like she is probably going to hear when she gets out - and she has totally set herself up for it.

Sia

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Omigosh, Cyn, are you referring to Jean Genet's works? I found his "The Balcony" seriously disturbing when two of my English profs made me read that when I had an independent readings course as a college junior. I was young and from a pretty sheltered home; I was shocked, disgusted and it made me really mad at those professors. I eventually fought back! Man, I hated Genet.

Snee

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
remember, the info people are getting from the show is different for the info people are getting on the internet. if you didn't have 24/7 access (minus foth) wouldn't you just think she was an outgoing young woman? are there many bleeps for her on the shows? really, i'm not sure because the tv info and the 'net info get jumbled.

aside from that, all i have to say is: EWWW!

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to spark an unnecessary debate here, but I've grown increasingly uneasy with Chiara's adventures in sexual harassment for the following reason: I think any man similarly situated and persistently tendering these same remarks and innuendos to the houseguests would have been bounced by BB a long time ago. Two warnings and out a few weeks ago. Joke or not, that comment to Dani crossed alot of lines which would be extremely dangerous in an ordinary employment situation. I don't know what's in their contracts, but if I were Dani and Jason I'd be complaining at the top of my lungs. I wouldn't even waste a nomination on her - I'd make BB do the dirty work. JMO.

Earthmother

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I see them all eventually using her crass behavior as a stepping stone up and her removal by vote. She will be the object of ridicule in my opinion when she is on that block, they are just biding their time.

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can't happen soon enough for me, Earthmother.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 03:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't imagine that happening as long as Roddy's in the house. They wouldn't dare. After his eviction, though, she's toast.

Cyn

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
sia, that's what i mean. i am outraged that we have to listen to this stuff. i bring up the "trying to get to know her self" cause someone said that in the "say nice things about the HGs" thread. she doesn't really make me uncomfortable. she makaes me angry! i have traveled and seen way too much (more than any sane person would want to). but, i FEEL for the folks who didn't have to go the route of the traveler cause they knew what they needed without it. praises to all of you who have had the courage to listen through this foul-mouthed trashy and mean woman degarde herself. IMO

Katrina

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You make a great point, Goddess. Interesting also that they're in a difficult position in speaking up against her behavior. Since their positions in the house are so tenuous, they're kind of living/working in an environment that seriously discourages them from speaking up about the harrassment.

Sometimes, in a regular work situation, if someone who is not in a supervisory position over you behaves inappropriately, you can try to halt the behavior semi-tactfully. You say, "I'm going to write that down," or, "You wouldn't be sexually harrassing me, would you?" You say it in such a way that it's a little bit light and friendly and not overtly accusatory, but with the serious undertone which means you've just politely put them on notice. Sometimes doing that a few times is enough to get your point across. But that only works when the coworker you're dealing with can't vote you out of your job.....

The houseguests are in a position of great disadvantage as to speaking up for their own rights if they want to maintain their active "employment" in the house. I'm no legal expert, but that would seem to up the responsibility of their Big Brother Employer to oversee what's going on in the house.

Goddessatlaw

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well stated, Katrina.

Katrina

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank you. I hadn't really thought about it before you brought it up. I was still on the "rude and tacky" bandwagon. You're right, the show has some responsibility there. Of course, over on NBC on "Fear Factor" they're regularly trying to maim or kill their cast members, so maybe everything is relative in La La Land.

Finio

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara wants attention and airtime (internet, that is) with the way she talks.. and this thread proves she's getting what she wants!!

Finio

Cute1073

Wednesday, July 31, 2002 - 05:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
nice one finio now that is a good analysis.