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Jesse

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great poing Penpoint!

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 07:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For the sake of clarity and discussion, Tonya's statements within the household likely ARE admissible in court. Most states at this point have adopted the Federal Rules of Evidence as their evidentiary guidelines. Within those, the statements of a "party-opponent" are an exception to the hearsay rule and fully admissible. I'm not positive that Nevada has adopted the guidelines, but it would be in the minority of states if it hasn't. Please correct me, Bohawkins, if you know differently - my statement is on generalities without knowing the specifics.

Having said that, I'm not sure that Tonya's statements regarding past drug use are going to be that damaging unless there's some proof of an ongoing problem. Making that kind of admission to a houseful of strangers would lead me to believe her husband had likely heard the same thing before he chose to marry her (a leap, but likely). More damaging,I think, on top of her alleged pre-show adventures, is going to be the fact of her joining the show during a custody battle and her behavior within the house. Any judge on this case is going to be concerned about her ability to place the well-being of her children first. However, we don't know whether her husband also has issues which would make him an undesirable custodian. Could be a messy case.

Draheid

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Excuse the semi-off topic question!
Goddessatlaw: What do you think the possibility/probability that Tonya's husband's attorney might subpoena tapes of some of the conversations for use in court? Would ASP be legally obligated to provide such? Would it be admissable?? Does it even matter, given the already strong case he appears to have based on the court papers that are already out there???
Just curious.

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Draheid: her husband would likely be more successful in attempting to subpoena tapes than personnel from the show. Depends on whether CBS has significant contacts with Nevada, which they probably do. Nevada can only subpoena what (or who) is in Nevada or has significant contacts (like national corporations) in Nevada. If CBS fits the mold, then Tonya's husband would and should get his hands on the tapes. The problem is in editing the same for use in court - everyone else' comments BESIDES Tonya's are hearsay, and Tonya's attorney will argue Tonya's statements taken out of the context of a discussion are meaningless. Won't keep them out, just diminishes their evidentiary worth. PS I don't think any of the houseguests are going to visit Tonya in Las Vegas, given that the minute they cross the state line they're likely to be subpoenaed. Oh, wait - that would presume they have brains which allow them to think that far into the future. Nevermind.

Earthmother

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmmm Gerry cleaning up, Gerry washing his clothes, where are the others? SLEEPING.....How the sam hell would they know what this man does when they sleep until noon. I'm aware he didn't shower after ab class but you would think he could catch a break since he was doing his workout in the POOL!!!!! I think I'll watch today and see how many of them shower, if they are wearing the same clothes without washing them, if they are touching each other and not washing hands, if they are washing anything at all...We should really keep track of these things for the safety of others. lol

Jesse

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Earthmother . . . when you think about it, Gerry actually bleaches his entire body daily in the clorine filled pool!

Earthmother

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
not to mention he's the only one who puts the chlorine in the hot tub and the pool...this is a lazy lot...lol If they kick Gerry out they will be swigging their citronas in a alge infested green tub of slime, but they will have ridded themselves of a health hazzard.

Floresmama

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just think that Gerry Hygeine issue could be approached and resolved by BB. I like Gerry better than a whole lot of the others. But you still need to wash your hands with soap after you go to the bathroom and before you prepare food.

I think the sitting on the counter is equally disgusting but doesn't make Gerry any more correct it just makes them just as if not more wrong.

I just wish they would stop talking about it and him behind his back. Roddy doesn't wash with soap all the time either.

Pirate

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This hand washing thing has been an issue with the Internet watchers every year. This year was the first that I remember that it was actually discussed/argued about in the house. Maybe it was BB that instigated the tirade for the fans that every year seem to be obsessed with who's washing their hands.

Just a thought...

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Another way Danielle is smarmy IMO.. she ranted about Tonya taking food out of her kids' mouths to have implants..

Sometime last night she had a convo "bonding" with the guys about football and how she wanted to "invest" $50 betting on the Patriots, I think, the year they did so well (if the team is wrong, that's me, but the concept is still there). She was making fun of her husband for adamantly not wanting her to bet $50.. and SHE said $50 to them is a really big thing.. "that's FOOD money". So, where did dear Dani get the money to pay for HER
breast implants?????

Personally I don't care if either of them have implants and their kids look to be reasonably well fed, but Dani does an awfully good job of being on a very high horse over other people's lives and choices.

And yes, her way of bonding is often by making fun of someone else. And also by using the technique of sounding minorly "understanding" and then dishing dirt about the same person. It is NOT attractive at all.

The only shower of Gerry's I saw (I happened to be up at that time, that day, and watching feeds) was of a totally reasonable length.

I tend to stress for myself to wash my hands just BEFORE I handle food.. because I'm sure I touch things between handwashings that might pose a problem. So having a bottle of liquid soap antibacteral whatever in the kitchen is a must.
My brother and his wife use antibacterial handwash constantly.. like whenever they return to a vehicle after shopping. To each his own. Yes, Gerry should wash with soap before food handling. I doubt if he mixed the pancake batter with his hands, but I didn't see that.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pirate.. both Danielle and Jason made handwashing an issue in statements made before they entered the house this year.. so it may have been one of the anticipated "storylines".

Pirate

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Seamonkey, that sort of confirms the jist of what I was trying to say.

BTW, I like your posts. We think along the same lines, but you say it better than me.

Ketchuplover

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 11:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought Grease was the word :)

Smarmy just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Bob2112

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey KL,

"B-b-b-bird, bird, bird, b-bird's the word"

Mystery

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nevada has adopted the Uniform Rules of Evidence, which are almost identical to the Federal Rules of Evidence.

Goddessatlaw

Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 01:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey, Mystery - thanks. I'm too lazy to look it up on a Sunday.