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Foodbunny

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is Josh the houseguest we all "Love to Hate"? I have to say that he does not satisfy that role for me. When I love to hate someone it's because I don't like what they are doing but I can respect the thought and cunning and goes into what they do. I loved to hate Will because he was brilliant and funny. I just really disliked Shannon because she didn't seem to think out the consequences of any of her actions.

I feel the same way about Josh, I just don't like him. I wanted to watch Will to see what he was coming up with or how he was playing people. I turn the feeds away from Josh because I know all we're going to get is "Gerry is a Nazi" or "Please feel sorry for me" if he's not slapping people's butts.

I don't really love to hate anyone in the group right now, no one has shown the cunning and ruthlessness to be worth that kind of attention. Neither do I really adore anyone, though Marcellas has his days. None of these people evoke any strong feelings, there's just the tolerable to watch people vs the intolerable to watch people. And I think that's where the real failure of the casting people lay.

Bmh

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree I just dont like him..lol..he is no Will thats for sure..I'd rather love to hate Chiara,Dani,or Amy

Maris

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont hate Josh, cant stand the butt slapping but the other stuff doesnt bother me. The only HG that really gets on my nerves is Gerry.

Maryann

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, is it because Gerry does all that posturing? I thought that he was really insecure.
I don't care for Josh, but he doesn't evoke any strong feelings for me,either.
The girls are grossing me out, except for Amy.
I still confuse Rod and Eric and Marc is my favorite HG...but I could have done without his
advisory on his you-know-what getting you-know-what on it. GAG!!!

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hate is completely the wrong word for me. I guess I'd have to say that I like hgs who fit the "villian" role because every good story needs an antagonist.

What we have here in BB3 are pale imitations of a true antagonist.

Foodbunny

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said, Wvc63. That's essentially how I feel as well.

Maris

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont know Maryann, he just gets on my last nerve.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He repulses me. With Will, who I didn't like, especially being a Nicole fan, I could still stand back at times and say "he's really good".. or "he's so cute and goofy at times". Josh shows me nothing that redeems his actions.

Gerry annoys me, but I also feel compassion for him.

Danielle irritates me, but I see her as a competitor who admits to being sneaky snake.

TLC are mostly just ridiculous. The "guys" are overbearing. Jason shows me nothing.

And, I really like Amy and Marcellas.

Maryann

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey I really like Amy and Marcellus as well-
I feel sorry for Gerry because they all tried to chill him out.
But I can understand how Maris feels, Gerry seems to do that to a lot of folks.

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy has reached villian status for me. The antagonist lives.

Cameltoes

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't love to hate Josh... I just hate him.

Wendo

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Frankly, I have to agree with Foodbunny. Not one of these HG's appeals to me at all. Sure, I find Mar and Amy amusing, feel bad for the treatment of Gerry, TLC...whatever, the boys...whatever, Josh...ick.

I have found, this year, that I turn the feeds off more than on; or, don't even turn them on and watch tv instead. Not so last year...at all.

I even wonder if I'll stick it out for the entire run of the show, honestly. Fall tv will start before the end of the show and, unlike last year where I taped those shows and watched later, this year, I doubt I'll do that.

But, who knows.

Ginger

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really actually dislike Josh. Anyone who would say the things he says is not a good person, in my book. Did you hear him say outright that Gerry was "a piece of crap"??? Calling someone a piece of crap is plain mean. I can forgive many things, but not mean. I also think he should be ashamed of the way he's tried to play the victim because he's Jewish. Give me a break! No one in that house has done one thing that could be called anti-sematic, though of course it was Josh who has made racist comments. I'm so sad that he's still in the house--not that I was crazy about Tonya.

My favorite player, and in fact the only player I truly like at this point, is Marcellus by a mile.

Muse

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well...is there something in between? Because at first I just disliked him. But now that I see him ruining his chances, and basically making himself look bad. And...well, there's a villain I don't mind. I don't love to hate him, since I don't find enough characteristics that really balance it out. He's not funny like Will, or especially intelligent, shrewd, or charming, either. But I'm comforted by the fact that he's (probably) not going to win the game. So my dislike has sort of lessened. If that makes any sense. :)

Spunky

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's no longer a matter of "like to hate" anymore, with Will it was such fun, but with Josh is a "turn off" for me.

Really so far I can't root for any of these hamsters...

Lurknomore

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really dislike him and his actions. I can't help but feel he came in with a "game plan" and he's trying to be a cross between Will and Boogie. But he doesn't have Will's humor to balance out tolerating him, and Boogie...well why anyone would want to emulate him totally eludes me. And personally any hope he had of me liking him he lost when he played the "Jew card." That really did not sit well with me.

So I don't love to hate him...I just want him and that voice (in a toss up with Chiapet for most annoying HG voice) to go away and off my computer screen.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I needed a thread to come to so I could vent.

I am so sick and tired of Lisa.

Why is she on this show? WHY?

Yes, she may have a pretty face and a nice body, but beyond that, damn it, there just isn't anything there.

I will give her credit for this: she seems like she is sincerely a nice person.

But at the same time, she is totally wishy washy about everything and she's a total follower. She has nothing interesting to say and she just seems to go along with whatever everyone else is doing. Can she not think for herself? It seems like Eric and Chiara do all the thinking for her.

Chiara has a charisma about her. So do Danielle and Amy. Lisa is just "there". Sometimes I wonder if the girl is in a catatonic state and can't snap out of it.

And I find it ironic that Lisa is usually involved in the sex-related conversations. The girl is hardly a vixen and so totally has no sexual vibe about her.

Ok, I will stop for now.

This girl annoys me!

Ryanc2002

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Powerpuff girl #1 officially has anti fans. I'm with ya.

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol, you two. I just figure she's attempting to fly under the radar as long as possible, kind of like Jason. I mean look ~ no one is discussing her behind her back ~ and that's a good sign, don't yah think?

Ryanc2002

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think Jason's intentionally going under the radar. I think he just kind of...is.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan: I still love you. :)

Kappy: In my heart, I believe Jason is consciously staying out of the way--he has a plan. I don't think Lisa has a plan...or a clue. I just think she's wandering around the house going with the flow. And if this was the "Real World" that would be fine. But, damn it, this is a game!

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lol, Ryan.

And yes, Scorpio ~ you could be right. But I don't know, I just think it's part of her strategy to not speak much. You know . . . 'better to not speak and have others think you're stupid then to speak and prove them right', lol.

Scorpiomoon

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kappy: If your theory proves to be right, you can have the privilege of kicking my butt. :)

Riviere

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Flying under radar is right!!! Unlike old Jerri of Survivor and old what's her name (Will's babe on BB2) Lisa isn't using her physical attributes to attract the men or the dislike of the women so I admire that much about her. As for looks, she resembles rocker Steve Tyler a lot more than his dau Liv, anyone noticed? Lisa is smart to play down her smarts and her looks, she doesn't seem like anything to be intimidated about but look at her eyes, she's a cool calm thinker! I thought I'd like Chiara best but she's already way too wrapped up in the dreary triangle deal that kilt off Brittany early on BB1. Note: I have missed all of BB and catching up via tapes & posts with 3 hours left to watch, so far I agree Lisa hasn't been that interesting but I have a feeling there is a plan somewhere once she feels everyone out and the best way to do that is don't ally early, just watch and listen! She probably knows the worst thing she can do is shoot her mouth early relying on looks and flirting to stay in. I'm almost rooting for Lisa, finally a cute gal using her head, the ultimate game manipulation..?

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well then, no need to worry, Scorpio! I've been completely wrong the last two years!