Can someone please explain?
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Chelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
People seem to think that Marcellas and Amy are so great. I don't get it. I was looking at live feed posts where Amy said that she has so much self-respect. She thinks it comes across as being snobby. It is snobby. She and Marcellas talk about the people in the house being terrible people because of the things they say. I have heard Amy and Marcellas talk more negatively than just about anyone. They sit in their throne thinking they are so high and mighty. They live in another world.

Battlestar

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
so???

Jeneane

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc and Amy interact with the others and Marc does so very well. If you look at the first few days I think you will realize what has both of them on the defensive. Danni started yelling at her something about looking at Tanyas "Ts" when all she did was notice a necklace she had on. They were targeted the first night while still in the nests. Neither one was given a chance to speak before judgements were made. Now right or wrong they team togeter and get by with the catty commedy. Also watch as the others rip Amy apart for no reason. They aren't even comical about it just mean.

Costacat

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you, Jeneane. I don't think they were ever really given a chance, and were judged almost instantly as being "outsiders." As such, I think they (rightly) teamed up, and have found a co-conspirator, so to speak. I agree that some of the gossiping they are doing is a bit excessive. But Amy is getting totally dis'd by the others, and for pretty much no reason. (See the Chiapet/Roddy/Amy threads; I don't think Amy is doing anything wrong.)

Based on what I've seen of the "characters" of the folks in the house, I am now strongly rooting for Amy and Marcellas to be the final two!

Chelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Marcellas when he interacts with others. I just don't like the two of them alone. Marcellas was judged unfairly the first few days. Amy grew on me for about three seconds, but I find most of her behavior appalling.

I guess we have to agree to disagree here.

Marcieb

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh,my gosh, Chelle, a soulmate! I've been thinking I'm the only one who feels this way. Somewhere else I referred to the Amy-Marcellas "Shredding Hour." It sickens me in the same way I'm sure others have responded to TLC's time in the HRD. I also don't get how so many complain about Josh's voice grating on them but not Amy's nasally flat twang. This is not a bashing session in any way, by the way. I'm just so relieved after feeling on the wrong side of the fence all along.

Bigbrotherbelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She and Marcie are hilarious, they are almost the only ones in there with a drop of personality beyond sexuality. Amy is right - she does have a high amount of self respect and she knows who and what she is. They are much more enjoyable to watch than "I am a 10. My butt is fat, do you like me, am I pretty, I can get any guy I want, I want to *(#&(#&@) you, and one time at band camp..."

Bigbrotherbelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Remember when Will went in the DR with that doll or whatever and pretended like it was Nicole, making fun of her? I did not like Will last year at all, but that was hystericaly funny.

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The difference I see between Amy's behavior and the behavior of the other houseguests is that while all are being catty and gossippy (1 "p" or two?) Amy fully admits to being a flawed human being. She accepts herself completely "flaws and all" and knows who she is and what she is willing to do in life to get ahead. This is called self-respect.

Additionally, Amy has said that she has ALWAYS been on the receiving end of teasing and/or bullying behavior and that she HAD to achieve a strong sense of self or retreat. I'm glad she didn't retreat.

If ANY of the other houseguests (besides Marcie) have admitted to flaws or faults I haven't seen it. Well with the exception of Josh but I'm still questioning his sincerity.

Bigbrotherbelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know Jason is the most humble guy around LOL.

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason hasn't done anything flawed yet IMO. But I'm sure if he does he'll admit to it.

Vinnyinla

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Battlestar's comment:"so?"...LOL!
Amy and Marcellas are hilarious together! They remind me of the sophisticated characters in "The Women", or the diner talk of the girls of "Sex and the City".

Guinevere

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't expect the HGs to be perfect. Jason is on the surface the "nicest" and sorry, I find him b-o-r-i-n-g.

Marcellus and Amy can be b*tchy, but they are funny, entertaining and human. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Amy thinking she's better than TLC - I think she's better than TLC, as well.

It's not that A&M bashing others is okay, and TLC bashing Amy isn't, it's just that I already like Amy and am predisposed to take her side. Also, the "ganging up" feel I get watching all of the other four women in the house trashing Amy makes me uncomfortable. It's just ugly. And A&M are the underdogs, so for me their trashing is more palatable.

Wcv63

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah... what Guinevere said! So there! Ha! (Well except for the Jason part)

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I really enjoy Marcellas and Amy. I don't have to approve of every action, but I know if I was in that house, I'd be earning criticism. But, still I find them the most appealing singly and definitely together.

Keiffer

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know if Marcellas and Amy had not been percieved as underdogs in the first week, but instead as favorites then their behavior would be the type that we hear people bashing on the six about. You know if a non-six person had won HoH the first week then most peoples perceptions would be different.

What people don't like is people who are percieved to be in power bashing the people they are thought to be in power over. If you flip the switch and place Marcellas and Amy in the first weeks as being part of the pwer group then their gossip seesions would be getting slammed.

It's all just perspective.

Chelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcie I am happy to know that I am not the only one. I did like Will last year, but I liked him for his honesty more than anything.