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Keiffer

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 06:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lets count the ways.

She is hot

Knows how to dress

Is adventerous

Washes dishes all the time

Apparently is wild in the sack


Oh, and by the way she will spend an hour plucking out your ingrown hairs, and black heads.

Bohawkins

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is strange that a personality like Lisa exhibits is often found in the gals who get left behind so many times. I know that her subservient nature seems so desirable on the surface, but after a while, all that devotion wears on a man. I have known quite a few women like her. You couldn't ask for nicer people, but I see many of them in their thirties settling for guys they really wouldn't have picked early on.

Shianname25

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is just my opinion, so don't get all mad at me. I don't like Lisa at all. I think she's just as bad as Tonya and Chiara. I read the live feed posts at several websites and the way she talks and behaves is just ridiculous. She really seems like the type that would cheat on her boyfriend and try to take other peoples' boyfriends' or husbands'. It's really sad.

Missy2

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't stand the voice Lisa uses when she talks to the men folk. Drives me nuts. I think Amy is more interesting of the women.

Keiffer

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Shianname25, I actually watch the live feeds a great deal, and I was wondering if you could remember any specific events in which Lisa gave you the opnions that you seem to have? I might have missed something.

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer: If I were a guy, I would be into Lisa for all the reasons you mentioned above.

But speaking as a chick, I have to say, beyond the pretty face there doesn't seem to be a whole lot there. Granted, Lisa doesn't seem to be as cunning as Chiapet or even Tonya (or Amy for that matter). She does seem like a decent person. But she seems wishy-washy, intellectually limited and, to me, rather boring.

(I was waiting for her to talk more about her photography. I've heard her make references to it twice. Does she really have a passion for photography or anything for that matter?)

So, yeah, if you're into women who are nice to look at and sexual but won't offer a lot of stimulation beyond the physical, then Lisa is your girl.

Shianname25

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, here are some of the things I read on another site that made me form my opinions:

She was talking with Tonya and Chiara about her being a stripper and saying she would and could take any man she wanted to.

Again, talking with Tonya and Chiara about how much sex she has had and with so many people and how she'd take anyone she wanted. It would make her feel good.

Basically, it was alot of conversations like this that just annoyed me. Lisa, Tonya, and Chiara just seem like their so proud of their "sexual adventures" and their "being bad girls" all the time. It just gets on my nerves.

The people in the house that I really like are Jason, Danielle, and Gerry. I like Amy somewhat too.

Bastable

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I am not attracted to anyone who travels in packs. You have to have independence and wit to make me fall for you...Lisa, sadly, doesn't.

Lisa derives power trips from her relationships with men, which actually means she'd be the WORST girlfriend ever. She's a user.

Sobaditsgood

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer - I don't know what others are referring to, but some of the stuff I'd read in the LF's that Lisa has said (that never makes the tv show, where they seem to be painting her as a wholesome all american girl type)seem sleazy to me. A specific example is when she was in the HOH room and Jason came in and asked if she needed help with the sheets and she said "are you going to lick them clean?" or something like that. I mean, okay, if he was a typical guy who'd been flirting back with her or something, I guess it'd be semi-ok to say such a thing, even though IMHO it's low-class and crass/cheap. But given it's Jason, who has made his principles known in the house, I just think it's pretty disgusting. In fact I think every woman in the house except maybe Danielle (not sure about Amy either) has pretty much made a total @ss of herself as far as Jason is concerned.... what's the deal, do they think it's "cute" to tease him constantly? Can they possibly think he finds them appealing or sexy? I think he's mostly embarassed and maybe borderline disgusted. Sure, on a purely physiological level he might respond (ahem) to certain kinds of overtures because he's a man and they're women but I think that'd be the beginning and end of it.

Anyhow, so, Lisa - she might be the best gf ever for a certain kinda boy-man who's mostly interested in a superficial physical/immature attachment kinda thing, but I think men with more life experience who's interested in something of substance would get bored with her after a while. She's one of those people who you give a second look because she's more attractive than average, but then when she starts talking and you observe the way she is, it becomes apparent fairly quickly there's just not much there. Isn't she the one in her CBS bio who said 'I'm not the smartest cookie in the box, but I'm the tastiest'? Yeah, yeah, cute soundbite, but Y-a-w-n.

I agree with whoever commented on the cutesy/little-girl voice she affects when talking to the men (and also sometimes in the DR). Majorly annoying, brings back scary memories of Jamie's voice - which was like that just about all the time.

Pirate

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 07:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think she's all that hot. I saw the naked shots. She looks to skinny and her bones poke out. I like the women a little softer. But, you know if you strut your stuff around for some guys, they'll jump on anything.

Amy is way much more attractive than any of the others. Of course that's only my opinion.

Flyonthwall

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer...."Oh, and by the way she will spend an hour plucking out your ingrown hairs, and black heads. "

All I want to know is, Did she wash her hands after all this picking????? Ewwwwwwww!

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Look what you started, Keiffer. :)

Twiggyish

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, I think the answer to your question is no. I can't see someone like her settling for one guy. She doesn't seem to have much self-esteem. (This is strictly based on my own observation)
Of the three women (Tonya, Chiara and Lisa) I think Lisa is the more intense.
She's been through a lot in her life, and it looks like she carries a lot of internal scars.
You might have a lot of responsibility with someone like her. (Just my opinion)

Lovemarc

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't imagine why anyone would want her, but, that said, I have never understood hetero men.

Tweepee

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
...which leads us to an interesting inversion: Which HG would be the best gay boyfriend, besides Marcellas? Lovemarc?

Lovemarc

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason

Lovemarc

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
no debate about that

Sheila494

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with missy2 lisa is not that great..amy is the best looking of all the women in there..she is sweet..and she has shown morals so far..the others dont.

Realitytvaddict

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, I have never never EVER picked someone's pimples much less my own. Where did they find these people? The local zoo? This is just utterly disgusting. Also, they were talking about anal sex when she was doing this. I didn't even eat dinner after that. It was too much for my stomach. Blech.

Zeyna

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, don't forget that she could probably mix you a good drink as well...j/k

I have never seen her demeaning Jason about his viginity directly or indirectly. And why should she talk to him as if he's grown up in a bubble? He seems to handle himself quite well and should not be patronized.

She is a very pretty girl, and I think people are deluding themselves if they think that most men would not find her very attractive.

Classycassfan

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The poll at my house goes::

51 year old male (yes he belongs to me) No thank you, I like to do my own grooming in the privacy of the bathroom where you can't see me. (Pheeeeeeewwwwwww and I am thankful for this)

30 year old son in law: No she is to needy that is why she is grooming this guy, it might be cute for a while but just as I don't wanna feel my wifes legs when she chooses not to shave I dont' want her to make me help her. ok so they have been married 7 years what can I say :)

7 year old grandson: Nope she is to skinny there is nothing soft to hug (gawd have I ruined this child or what)Since he is present we had to keep it clean

Misery

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! I was watching the Discovery Channel the other day and the animals on there were picking bugs and stuff out of the hair of each other. That's the first thing I thought of after reading this thread!

IMHO, I think Lisa is not attractive at all, sorry to say that, but I can't lie. For one thing she's way too skinny.

I like girls like Amy who are shorter (she looks shorter anyhow) and have some meat on their bones. Plus, Amy seems funny and more like a girl than the others, in other words, doesn't talk like the others from what I've read and has some social standards. She cute.

Bohawkins

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa fits the profile of the submissive who gets thrown out after a man tires of this behavior. The talk about anal sex (most likely she was saying she liked it) is typical. The picking the pimples is very much similar to simian communities where the submissive ones service the dominant.

Sometimes these gals play the game in the courtship period only to change when they feel more secure. The change to the real personality, is often what gets them tossed.

There is a term used today in rating prostitutes, called GFE (girl friend experience), which means they will do anything and everything, including anal (called speaking Greek in the rating game). By those standards Lisa would qualify as the ideal GF. In reality the true GFE is someone who will interact with her guy antagonistically from time to time, and certainly not give in to his every whim. Lisa would not meet those realistic standards for an ideal girlfriend.

Serena

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No, she wouldn't

Curlyq

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmm. I don't know how submissive Lisa really is. I have a feeling she's just playing her game and staying on his good side. She seems to have been able to stay emotionally detached from Eric and not think of him as a boyfriend no matter what they do physically. Just yesterday she told Chiara that she wouldn't mind if Chiara wanted to go after Eric to make Roddy jealous. Chiara declined.

Maybe that's another quality a man would enjoy: willing to share you with her friends.