Archive through July 23, 2002
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Archive through July 23, 2002
Ginger | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:29 am     I am also very upset about the treatment of Gerry in the house. In other BBs we've seen nothing like this--even when a hg was truly annoying. Gerry has his faults, but no more than many of the rest of them. The behavior of the hgs is just plain mean and I am particularly disappointed in Marcellus. As for the age thing, this issue has come up before on BB and it always confounds me. I've observed that the age differences get exaggerated way out of proportion. Gerry is 46, I believe. He is slightly older than the rest of the hgs, but for god's sakes the gulf is not THAT wide. I am 33 and MOST of my friends are seven to ten years older than me and never is this a problem. I also have friends who are ten years younger. And one of my best friends is 53. I LIKE having a wide range of friends. What's wrong with these people? Tonya is 35--I wouldn't consider her in a different generation than Gerry. I think you've all said it before and it comes down to this: these people are acting in a kind of junior high, pack mentality manner. By and large this group has put way to much energy into thier exterior beauty, at the expense of their interior beauty. Shame on them! |
Ginger | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:32 am     Mr Bozack, yes, I completely agree that Gerry made a big mistake by talking at people instead of to them. He also has this way of seeming to be humble, but actually being very self-congratulatory. He DID bring some of this on, but not to the level that it's at in the house right now. Like I said before, other people have been and are annoying, creepy, whatever, but still the group has generally not rejected them to this degree. It's sad to watch. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:34 am     I didn't say it would be interesting, I said it would be a nice way to payback those nasty people. As far as wearing thin I think you could say they are all guilty of doing things that are wearing thin...Paternalistic attitude..hmmm who was just out giving little Jason the Daddy speech hmm would that be Roddy? a know it all who talks above their level of understanding and is playing one against the other as well. I personally can't think of one who I would want to see win any money right now, sad huh? This is the first year I'm rooting for who gets to leave first, not who will finish first. |
Jkm | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:44 am     I also have no one to root for winning... Sad -- there is no one I truely "like"!! |
Jkm | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:47 am     OH >>>>>> Just thought of what this reminds me of.... They are all "Sue" and Gerry is the girl she ragged on for doing the exact same thing she was doing!!! (the it's ok if I do it but not if you do it to me attitude -- ) |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:01 am     That's right Jkm, just like kids do.. It's the "not me sydrome" that all little kids have. When we grow up (obviously something that has yet to happen to these hgs) we usually learn that we look at our own behaviors and reflect on it before judging someone else's transgressions. |
Jkm | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:09 am     I'm with you, Earthmother -- I've got tween girls -- understand very, very well -- I also understand the exclusion stuff girls do. My oldest is usually the victim of it. But sadly, when given the chance -- I've seen her jump at the chance to do it to her sister or the neighbor girl. This is so much -- we've decided we don't have anything else to do -- so we've decided we don't like you today and are going to be really nasty to you until something better to do comes along!!! |
Bogey | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:17 am     The really ironic part about them all being mad at Gerry for messing up the alliance is that they had pretty much already replaced him and Amy with Roddy and Tonya. So how dare he screw the alliance he was no longer in?! I think its wrong to treat a human being so badly for such stupid meaningless reasons. |
Max | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:20 am     Gerry is 51, according to his bio. I think the producers cast one "older" HG each year just to add an instant element of tension to the house. Kent certainly brought that last year, but they erred by having Karen and Bunky there, too, who were in the same age bracket. This year, they only have Gerry as the older tension point. The next oldest was Lori at 36, then Tanya at 35 (but maturity level is much lower, IMHO). Marcellus is 34, then it skips down to a couple of 30-year-olds. It's a gap that is further compounded by demeanor and lifestyle. Gerry is a teacher. He's sort of, well, stodgy would be a good word, I think. He probably doesn't have a lot of friends who are under 40 and understandably seems a little lost with this group of sex-crazed hotties. Lori was the most mature of the bunch and he made a connection with her. Now she's gone and he's drifting. Gerry is doing his part as the producers planned. He's providing the "someone to hate" element for the other HGs. If they vote him out, that target will move to someone else, just as the venom some have towards Josh will migrate to someone else. It's gotta be a realy drag to be Gerry in that place. He's a social kind of guy trapped with a bunch of kids who don't want to talk to him. He's certainly not my favorite nor someone I think I'd enjoy hanging out with (and I'm 46), but he doesn't deserve what they are throwing at him. In an atmosphere where everything gets magnified and blown out of proportion, though, he's an easy target. |
Katrina | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:47 am     Y'all are very nice -- some summer when none of us has anything to do, we could all move in together and have a very nice time! I hope Gerry will read the boards when he gets out and be glad that many people respected him as a fellow human being during this experience. They just weren't in the house to demonstrate it personally. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:49 am     okay..cool, I'm always up for a party. We don't have to live together or anything do we? |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:51 am     omg you did say move in together!!!ummmm sending my rsvp..."sorry won't be able to attend". |
Mr_Bozack | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:53 am     Ginger: I doubt Gerry would be as much of a cast out as he is right now if it wasn't for the game environment. If you make a mistake, it could cost you your spot, which means everyone else is safe for yet another week. So everyone has an invested interest in singling out Gerry. What can you say? He's an annoying guy. |
Theowl | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:58 am     Like my hubby said, they are looking at Gerry and seeing their future, and they don't like it. Maybe if they act 12 years old, they will never be 51.  |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:58 am     I seem to think annoying is a must in this house..Maybe these people are upset because his little speech last week hit a little to close to home..."Me think they do protest too much" |
Maris | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 09:59 am     Gerry started digging his own grave before the first vote with his attacking everyone the minute they got up about the ants. He was annoying, paternalistic and drove everyone nuts. I can still remember that morning when Jason got up and he guy hadn't even washed his face when Gerry accosted him in the hall about cleaning up. There is no excuse for the way these people are treating him and the women are the worst. When he was doing his exercises yesterday and Lisa, Tonya and Chiara were laughing out loud at him, it was disgusting. However, I do want to see Gerry gone too. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:05 am     I say toss em all out and bring in the next 12 pleassssssssse! |
Sweaty | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:22 am     Gerry is a <MOD>. Only worse house guest is Josh. Amy is such a sucker listening to to his deceit. I think the best players are Eric and Lisa. They have settled in and are having more fun than anyone else in the house because of their sexual liaison. Hope they stay all the way and win 1st and 2nd. (c) |
Draheid | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:22 am     Disclaimer: This is entirely my own oppinion! It seems to me that Gerry has in fact instilled in these people that he is a somewhat of a 'Father-figure' to them, albeit, probably subconciously. And who wants to talk about their sexual exploits (which seems to be the overriding topic in this house) in front of their father?? Also, the 'Pack-mentality' mentioned earlier, combined with the immaturity level, is very true. Where else in society, other than in children, do we see the singling out of someone because they are different and everyone else joins in partly because a) they don't want to be that one and b) they want to join in with the rest of the bunch. After reviewing the 'speech' Gerry made at the veto, I am convinced that he honestly meant what he said, but only about himself and no-one else in the house. The others just decided that, for whatever reason, they resent that he's put it out there for them to have to reconcile within themselves. And because it gave them a basis to treat him the way they are now. Someone else here observed that, once Josh and Gerry are out, the group will find someone else to target similarly. I suspect that Amy will likely be the next victim of this behaviour. I do not envy her as I doubt the she'll be able to tolerate it nearly as well as Gerry has. And it will continue like this until the game ends because that is the way this group appears to work. Again, all of this is just my oppinion and in no way reflects the oppinions of the moderators, administrators, or other members of this board. |
Fluffybbw | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:25 am     I like Gerry and I do think he can be annoying sometimes, a little like Cliff on the t.v. show, Cheers, but that is no excuse for the treatment he is getting Of course I can see why Josh and Dani are trashing him all the time, so they can keep the attention of the HG's away from all their own little dirty tricks and schemes. P.S. thanks for the invite, Katrina, will PB&J be served at this party? |
Hardywins | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:36 am     I'm Gerry, Same age; same difficulty relating to younger less wise, less experienced, less educated, less moral, and less compasionate "brats". The brats are no longer children to be taught. They are adults with their own minds, their own decisions to be made, their own errors to make, and their own wisdom to learm from their mistakes. Gerry is used to teaching/telling children exactly what to do and to think. Doesn't work in the BB3 house where he is NOT the authority figure. Because he assumed the role of the "daddy" (like Kent was called daddy by Nicole last year); he has been placed in that 'ole fogey', not to be listened to category. Gerry's saving Marcellus Epiphany and implication that everyone else in the alliance were racists also did not set well with any of the houseguests (even Marcellus). Although Marcellus and Gerry are closer in age and maturity than any other houseguests; and both are most certainly social idealists desiring that others in the house be gentler and kinder and act more for the well being of the house, Marcellus still relates much better to others because he has never been in an authoritarian position like Gerry has been for most of his life. Marcellus is playing the "Hardy" this year; Champion of the outcasts, outsiders, and underdogs. Gerry has turned into "Kent"; overly-self-satisfied-opinionated pariah because he is overly obsessed with the BB3 game. Like Hardy, last year, Marcellus has been emotionally burned out by the game and seeks peace and diversion from the game. Gerry, like Kent, won't let up and keeps picking, picking, picking; until irritation has developed to the point that Marcellus, like Hardy, will dump Gerry/Kent as soon as politically expedient; even before all the opposition, like last year when Hardy saved Wil by having his friends vote Kent out. Gerry really needs to ease up, back away, read the Bible instead of trying to join into conversatins until the others approach him. On Tonya, Although 35, she will always will be "17" in maturity; shes nice but not a strategic game player or she would be fighting much harder to stay in the house. |
Katrina | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:36 am     Earthmother, operative phrase was, "some summer when none of us has anything to do". The odds of that being practically nil. :-) Draheid, "[w]here else in society" we might see such behavior besides in children probably includes prison, where you do not want to stand out as different, and military type training programs/initiations, such as boot camp, where conformity and unity of the group are desired results. Neither of them fun experiences..... |
Katrina | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:42 am     Fluffy, PB&J, brownies, Citrona, and Sarefem for all! Bikinis optional. |
Earthmother | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:49 am     Ok now you may have changed my mind..fluffy and brownies are calling to me...lol |
Squaredsc | Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 11:13 am     imo, i don't think that gerry was that annoying. to me josh was annoying from the 1st moment he opened his mouth. and that "pack mentallity" sucks. if they were in school then gerry would be the one to totally lose it and shoot the place up. of course the sex pack are too stupid to even realize it. this group this year really disgusts me. i have already cancelled my live feed, before the 14 days were up. and i thought chilltown was bad. if i was gerry's family i would storm the gates and beat the *&(&%^$%&'s down. and i am sad to say that i would also have to smack marcellas to bring him back to reality and he is my favorite along with jason. |
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