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C1mag

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I gotta give Josh props. He has found a true sucker in Amy. The only sad part is when she gets out and sees all the footage she is gonna feel like the biggest sucker. That man would sell his mom into slavery right now to get back in this game. He has made sooooooo many promises he could never keep them all.

Wendo

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, she went back in to HOH with Marcellas and talked about Tonya etc. I certainly hope Mar sticks to his convictions and, in case of a tie, boots Josh.

I can't peg Amy at all. Is she planning on voting to keep Josh in or vote him out? She says one thing to Josh, another to Mar.

Cameltoes

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't wait for her to be voted out at this point. Her blind hatred for those girls renders her useless as a game player. If one of the girls get HOH I hope it's a Gerry/Amy nomination and she leaves. Getting evicted over Gerry and then finding out the truth about Josh would be a cold dose of reality that she desperately needs.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh made a point to tell Amy that he over heard Tonya call Amy a Num Nut while she was cooking and that her mommy probably cooks all her meals. Now isn't it ironic that he says Tonya has allegedly said this? Even Amy is telling Marcellus that she expected that trash talk from Chiara but she never expected that type of comment from Tonya. All I can say is... Wake up honey!!! Figure it out!! He is trying to taint Tonya to ensure your vote. The woman would never say something like that about you. Like I said... Josh is playing EVERY angle in order to get this womans vote. It really is gonna come down to Jason and Dani. Please Lord let it be a Tie and let Marcellus boot this guy. He's too sleazy. I wanna see the rest of them play this game from a different angle and not the way Josh is playing it.

Cameltoes

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah.. Jason and Danielle are the only hope of getting rid of him. I think Gerry and Chiara are pretty much sure things to vote out Josh. Although if it doesn't go down that way (4-4 tie), Marcellas will likely know Amy screwed him over and then she will be left in there with no friends. Maybe she would then understand how Gerry feels in that house.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well we've still got one more day of all of this Josh Campaigning and since Marc is half asleep I'm sure once he is awake he will hear the full story and he can help her deduce that the messenger in this case shouldn't be taken literally. He keeps telling her that she is being played. Hopefully he will point out to her that it seems a bit odd that Josh is telling her things that specifically tonya has allegedly said about her. If she does vote to keep Josh in because of petty reasons sadly I have too agree that she needs to go so that she can see the truth. She's gonna feel soooo stupid for listening to that weasel. Wait til she sees who voted her out durring the first eviction. That alone will make her feel like a sucker. He really does know her number and I fear before the vote somehow Roddy will get Jasons number as well, and Dani may privately want Tonya gone as well because remember last week Dani was complaining that she didn't like Tonya announcing that she considered Dani a threat. She thought that was her way of saying she would nominate Dani. We shall see. They have no idea the mistake they will be making if they keep him in this game.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is my concern. Lets look at it through his eyes... If he votes based on Morals he will boot Josh. He may feel it is beneficial to him specifically to get rid of Josh because then he could fill Joshs space with the guys ( He knows that Rod, Eric and Josh are in an alliance otherwise Rod wouldn't be working so hard to keep the weasel in) So with the weasel gone Jason could form what he believes to be a solid alliance with Rod and Eric since they treat him pretty good. Remember, Jason is just waiting for the perfect alliance with two Key players. He said in his bio that was his strategy. Maybe he would see his chance to meet his goal with Josh gone. The whole house knows that Roddy is the key player right now with Eric as his sidekick so Jason sure would like to be a part of that strength wouldn't he? Phew do I live vicariously through this house or what? LOL

P.S. I'm not even being greedy. Dani could vote for Josh if she wants thats cool with me. Just give me a freakin tie and I will be happy!

Cameltoes

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason seems leary of the idea of keeping someone like Josh around (he has made specific reference to Richard Hatch winning Survivor). I doubt he wants to be in with the guys since it would hardly be a beneficial alliance with them all gunning to boot him as soon as possible. He needs an alliance with someone who feels confident that their game playing skills could outweigh Jason's good nature in a F2 situation. I think that leaves Marcellas and Danielle who both want the power people in the Six Pack gone before they would even think about nominating Jason. Gerry and Amy being pawns for votes until they finally get the boot. Also his position is such that I don't think any of the girls would go after him first. He needs to stay far away from the guys. By the time the rest start to think about getting rid of him, it might be too late.

Realitytvaddict

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes: Her blind hatred? How about them talking about her every two seconds. I think you have that backwards. She was having a GREAT time until the <edited> started in on her. That was what made her change her attitude. You can't blame it on her.

Oh, and Tonya did badmouth Amy. Saying she could get any man unlike Amy. She is so insecure and she knows it. She also instigated Chiara's hatred for Amy like Lisa did. Maybe this sounds outrageous, but I honestly think that Chi wanted to befriend Amy. I think she was upset that Amy didn't want to be her friend. Yet, it doesn't matter at this point. Yet, Amy saw what we saw and that was a little <edited> running around doing unspeakable acts and talking about them as well. I wouldn't touch her with a ten foot pole either.

The only thing that matters is that Amy is playing JOSH like a violin. I just don't see her screwing over Mar. I really don't. She is saying what Josh wants to hear. I could be wrong, but I just hope and pray that I'm not.
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Deeya

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 05:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1 - You've missed some of the conversations I've seen apparently. Last night at the hot tub Tonya was trash talking Amy to Gerry... I'm not disagreeing about the fact that Amy has done her own bit of trash talking... but Tonya isn't an innocent... I have no doubt that Tonya did make the comments that Josh repeated to Amy... she has made no secret that she can't stand Amy.

Also.. while I'm not a huge fan of Josh, and I know he is playing the other HG for anything he can, I also think he does like Amy. Last night he was talking to Chi about Amy and how supportive she has been to him this week, understanding how he feels to be nominated, etc. If he was completely playing Amy, I doubt that he would have made these comments to Chi, who is part of the 6pack.. and Tonya's biggest buddy.

Realitytvaddict

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 06:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that he really does like Amy. I was watching them together the other night. He was so sweet to her. Yes, he's a jerk for voting against her, but it is a game in the end right? I think Amy would forgive Josh for doing that over Dani badmouthing her behind her back to the the girl alliance.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 06:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You guys should probably check the other thread about Amy..because according to that thread Amy told Marcellas that she knows that Josh was the 4th vote to evict her..so this whole time she has been playing with Josh and trying to see if he would tell her the truth but he never did and she now realizes this and will proudly vote to evict him.

Cameltoes

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has been trashing Tonya from the very beginning. Tonya has finally overheard some of what Amy has said. She specifically said that she hates when people think they are better than others. Given the things said about her, I understand where she is coming from. The past few days Amy has been in a funk and there is negativity coming from the girls but I am not sympathizing with someone who has given as good as she is currently getting.

As for her voting to evict Josh, I'll believe it when I see it.

Realitytvaddict

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya never heard about Amy said about her. Besides, who hasn't been trashing Tonya since the beginning? I'm not saying it's right but that's the truth. She started in on Amy because she was sticking up for Chiara. The first time I heard her say something nasty about Amy was the day Chiara was having a hissy fit over Amy spending time with Roddy. Interesting that Chiara is making fun of Tonya behind her back as well along with Lisa.

Honestly, I didn't start watching the live feeds until last week, so Tonya could have said a lot more about Amy before that day.

Tonya put her trash out on the front lawn for all to see with her talk. Now, she wants people to respect her for it? I could NEVER EVER respect her, Chiara, or Lisa. They don't think before they speak at all. Amy may say some questionable things at times, but at least she does it with style. I can't say the same for someone that admittedly wants to start plucking their private part's hair in public. That is TRASHY. It is also trashy to run around naked. I feel bad for Tonya because she is a pawn in the game, but I feel bad for her ONLY when it comes to Rod, Chi, and Lisa. Amy never claimed to be her friend.

Ark

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
C1, while Chiara & Tonya were sitting on the bed, painting their toenails, last night, Tonya did indeed go on about Amy's mommy cooking all of her meals for her. Dani said that what Amy was cooking looked and smelled delicious but Tonya wasn't having any of that. She again made a comment about Amy's mommy doing everything for her.

Guinevere

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can agree that in some respects Amy isn't playing the game well right now, but the fact is, it's in her best interests to keep Josh and boot Tonya. Though she should work it out with Marcellus first.

Previous vote or no, Josh is more Amy's friend than Tonya is. Josh can't be trusted, but Tonya hates Amy.

As for who has talked bad about who, they are ALL guilty in that house, except maybe Jason. So I can't really make judgements based on that. I like Amy way better than I do Tonya. She is far more entertaining than that shallow dimbulb.

Realitytvaddict

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 10:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Guinevere: Jason's guilty of it too. He joined in on the conversation of slamming Amy the other morning. Sometimes, I think his bible is a cover. He doesn't seem as sweet to me in all honesty.

Saggkl

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 11:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry I agree with Cameltoes about Amy, plus she likes the attention Josh is giving her. The other men are not paying her any attention. Remember her football parties? 10 guys 2 girls?

Bigbrotherbelle

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
COMPLETELY (lol) agree with you Realitytvaddict and Guinevere. First of all, Tonya has not even tried to like Amy, much less win her vote. What did Gerry say about Josh campaigning for his vote? Never hurts to try. She digs her own grave by continuing to diss someone and then expecting their vote. Josh is the only one in that little clique that will talk to her and not run afer and have a meeting blasting her to assure themselves that she is a horrible person.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh is just screwing Amy...as soon as Josh has Amy's vote and he is still in the house on thursday(which Im hopin doesn't happen)..he will start trashin Amy and screw her over..u actually think Josh is being nice to Amy out of the goodness of his heart?..ya right..after the vote he'll hate her too..

Bigbrotherbelle

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, Tanya's doing it now, that is certain, so which is preferable? Someone who you guess MIGHT blast her behind her back or someone who openly does it. Says a lot about these people, but at least he is playing the game. She isn't even trying.

Bmh

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has been talking behind Tonya's back since day 1..how come it is so terible that Tonya is dissin Amy because she found out what a mean person she is..but it is alright for Amy to diss Tonya?
I say what goes around comes around..Amy started it and Tonya has every right to finish it

Guinevere

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly. These are Amy's two options - whether Josh is a real friend to her or not, I can see Amy thinking that he's a better bet than Tonya.

I don't like Josh OR Tonya, and I'm not really an advocate of one going over the other. Because I like Marcellus and Amy both, I'd rather she gets it settled with Marcellus if she's going to vote against Tonya. It's not to her advantage to keep Josh happy (especially if he gets booted anyway) if it's going to piss off her one true friend in the house (Marcellus).

Bmh, I don't know whether Josh is screwing Amy or not. He is a jerk for sure, but he's also a little hard for me to figure out. Did anyone every come up with a better reason for his vote against Amy, other than his promise to Lori? Because that's the only reason that I've heard, and it actually casts Josh in a better light.

Guinevere

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 12:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, my "exactly" was for Bigbrotherbelle, btw.

Bmh, I don't have the live feeds so maybe you know more than me, but I haven't heard anywhere that Tonya trashing Amy was because Tonya found out that Amy was "a mean person" - my perception was that it started with the Chiara/Roddy situation; that TLC began trashing Amy in earnest after that.

Again, they all talk about each other. I don't always like them for it; sometimes it gets really ugly. I think it bothers me especially in situations where there's a "ganging up" effect - everyone against Gerry, or the girls against Amy.

I don't think it's "right" for Amy to trash Tonya, but I understand Amy disliking Tonya. I dislike Tonya, myself.

Lovemarc

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 01:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No offense to the female posters out there, but the girls in the house make me quite happy to be gay.