Archive through July 26, 2002
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Archive through July 26, 2002
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:05 pm     Well, even though it didn't turn out the way I wanted (dang that Josh), I can't say that it ain't interesting. I was somewhat surprised that Roddy ended up winning HOH. I'm inclined to believe that he really was trying to throw the competition in a smart way by attempting to slightly overestimate the total weight, but maybe that's just a cover story. Doesn't matter. He's HOH now. I believe that the potential nominations (including replacement nom's if the Veto is used) are: Marcellas, Danielle, Amy, Gerry (although that would violate Roddy's rule of not telling boldface lies), and Chiara (if he lets his emotions get the better of him). I would be upset if Marcellas and Amy got nommed, but they sort of deserve it if they do. They both brought it upon themselves. Marcellas neglected to nom two "knights" (Josh and Roddy, using Eric or Lisa as replacement nom's), making it possible for a weak pawn like Tonya to go. As I warned in other threads, Tonya's removal would be (and was) a very poor consolation prize. Amy betrayed (or to put it nicely, "ignored") Marcellas and voted for personal reasons...either to get rid of Tonya, or to save Josh so he could help her evict Chiara, or both, or whatever. It doesn't matter. She voted foolishly, and I won't shed a tear if she ends up paying the ultimate price. The same goes for Danielle. She's too greedy (or "ambitious") for her own good right now, and may well pay for it. Roddy may decide to pull the trigger now in order to have Jason all to himself and rid himself of a troublesome competitor. Gerry & Chiara would be more personal nom's, and less likely. But...still likely. It's also possible that he'll betray the others (Lisa, Eric, or Josh), but that'd mean that he's willing to wreck the reputation that he's worked so hard to build...and I just don't think that he's that reckless. One final thing regarding Gerry. Some people consider Gerry to be a shady player since he's said he'd be willing to go along with a Marcellas vs. Amy nom. I don't think that's fair...at least, not based on that. Marcellas was (wisely) using Gerry as a shield. Unfortunately, Marcellas wasn't using the best strategy in the world, so he's a potential target now. So is Amy. Too bad. If you had the chance to control your destiny, and you blew it, then you've gotta deal with the consequences. If Gerry takes the opportunity given to him, good for him. Kudos to Josh as well (as much as I hate to say it). It's the player's ball, now...so let the players play. |
Snee | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:06 pm     roddy and chiara! oh sorry, that was just a snee-fantasy... |
C1mag | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:10 pm     Sorry Itscrazy but it is for sure Amy. He already has told Gerry that it is definitely Amy and since he just promised Gerry he wouldn't nominate him the only logical person is Marcellus so there ya go. I think that since he is saving Gerry he has an agenda for Gerry later on in the game. I predict that although at first it will appear as if Amy is going that by this time next week we will all be seeing Marcellus walk out that door. Josh will make sure of it. So... Marcellus first, then Amy and then the game gets real interesting because there will have to be sub alliances to stay safe in the game and thats when all the nice people are going to turn on each other and Jason will go. None of them will want to have him go much further. Then the 4 guys will get rid of the Three girls and then Roddy will use Josh and Gerry to get rid of Eric and then just when Roddy thinks he has the game all figured out Gerry and Josh will save each other and Josh and Gerry will be the final two. Like I said, the finals will be Gerry and Josh. It was all basically decided tonight when they allowed Josh back in the game and Gerry was kept off of the chopping block this go around. Do I hold it against either Josh or Gerry to step it up and do some more screwing? NOPE!! I blame those that they are about to beat to the finish line. They allowed these two back in the game and they will go back to these early rounds and realize they literally handed them the game. In a perfect scenario Marcellus would go all the way but he had his moment and he didn't play his cards very well. Why oh why did he put up Tonya and not someone like Rod or Eric? Too chicken to take on the kings of the game and because of it he is gonna get bit. Amy was never in this game so good riddence we enjoyed the shtick but boy is she gonna get her ass chewed out by the other players when they hear what she had to say about them. Anyway, It looks like we are gonna see one of the bad guys when again and some fool will swear they were brilliant win the truth was they were handed this game this week. |
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:13 pm     I fear you may be right C1mag. Ugh. Man, do I hate it when HG's think with their private parts (or not at all) instead of with their heads! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:13 pm     Roddy needs to pick 2 noms and 2 alternates. (In case one of his alternates gets veto power and cannot be nominated, he needs a second alternate) This means (IMHO) that one week from tonight one of these four will be evicted: Amy Marcellas Gerry Danielle I believe no matter which two are originally nominated and no matter who in the house gets veto power....the final outcome will be a fond farwell to one of those four. (I put them in the order in which I think they are most likely to wind up in that regrettable slot) |
C1mag | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:20 pm     Sorry Sanfran there will be no veto use this time around. Everyone will be very happy with these nominations. Gerry has already promised he wont change this one if he gets the veto and Dani has already switched sides to the girls. Their theory is at least they are all safe by keeping it this way. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:25 pm     I didn't mean that someone would use the veto....just that HOH *always* needs a set of 4 "possibles"....HOH picks 2, and if by some chance one gets vetoed, then he has to pick someone else. But...I could easily see Marcellas on the block with Amy, possibly winning veto power and using it to save Amy....although if, like I said, Roddy has these 4 picked as his 4 "possibles" then one of them is still definitely gone next week. There will be no surprises. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:31 pm     Although this guy wants the men to be the bigger force in the house, he'll nominate Gerry (I don't think Marcellas) and Danielle, just to show he can do it, but I think he wants to keep Josh and Marcellas since he needs the controversial ones in the house so that everyone notices how well mannered he is and how well he plays the game....He's the smooth operator and I don't like him!!! |
Auntie | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:32 pm     I don't think it was sleazy of Gerry to make a deal with Roddy. Marcellas and Amy didn't cultivate Gerry as the natural ally that he was. They allowed their personal distaste for Gerry to distort their thinking--not that there's anything wrong with that! They just weren't playing the game. Rod's deal was focused on Amy, not Marcellas. I suspect Gerry would have been willing to make the same deal about Marcellas. Again, not sleazy at all. He made his grand gesture for Marcellas without attempting any deal for later protection. Gerry's winging it. He was once a member of the alliance; with the deal, he's now aligned with them again, at least for this week. Roddy will nominate Amy--he wants to teach that Southern belle a lesson. Brag about class, get kicked in the a**. |
Bigbrotherbelle | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:34 pm     I heard Roddy tell Chiapet that he will tell Marcellas (after he noms Mar and Amy) that if Mar wins the veto and uses it to save Amy that Roddy will put in someone who Mar will not be able to beat. I wish he would do this and Mar would use the veto. Not because I want Mar to go, but because I hate when people think they can control the house and threaten people. Mar did not have to threaten anyone. |
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:34 pm     The Veto may not be used, but Roddy's got at least 4 people (5 including Chiara on the off chance that he loses his mind and goes with his emotions) that he can nominate strategically, no matter what happens. Then again, Marcellas had 4 strategic people to nom, too (Josh, Roddy, Eric, and Lisa), and we all know how that turned out. Nonetheless, I doubt that he'll do a "knight-pawn" combo. Amy isn't a useless pawn, since her removal will calm down Chiara. That's already been noted, though. I guess the best we can hope for is that the Veto power changes (allowing the winner to both remove and nom, or to choose who goes up, leaving the HOH to decide who gets switched), and that somebody uses it. You never know in this game. |
Penpoint | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:35 pm     It makes sense for Roddy to keep Gerry and Josh in the house because they aren't competition. He isn't going to nominate Eric, Chiara, or Lisa. Amy and Marcellas are possibilities--I wouldn't mind not ever watching Amy's cloying act again. I think Roddy would be smart to get rid of Danielle. The longer she is in the house, the stronger and interconnected she becomes. And there aren't that many chances for him to eliminate the biggest competition he has. The question is who could be put up against Danielle to ensure she will be evicted? The only one that will work is Jason. I think Roddy could easily rally at least four votes to keep Jason safe. |
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:40 pm     I seriously doubt that Roddy would risk putting up Jason in order to get rid of Danielle, or anybody else. Too risky. Rule of HOH #1: Never do a knight-pawn combo. It almost always blows up in your face. |
Kittykatt | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:41 pm     I heard Roddy tell Kiki He is putting Amy and Josh up, Josh he said to distance himself from for a while and Amy for obivous reasons ;) |
Zeyna | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:44 pm     I agree Pepoint. The wisest thing he can do is nominate Danielle. He's letting personal stuff get in the way of the game. At this point Amy is not a threat and he's just appeasing Chiara. On the other hand, he's going to look weak for doing so, so I'm not sure what he's up to.. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:47 pm     Whatever he does, let's hope a man will leave the house or it's going to be a bit too ridiculous to have so many men and few women left... |
Oregonfire | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:48 pm     I think Danielle is a good choice, but would he have the votes to back it up? Who would vote to evict Dani? Maybe Josh and Eric, but that's it. Hmm. Maybe a Jason/Dani combo. That way, Jason can't vote to keep Dani, since she's got him in her pocket. P.S. When Dani does get nominated, it truly will be a sight to behold. I can see her going into massive overdrive. |
Zachsmom | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:51 pm     there's men in the house? |
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:58 pm     Since there's no way to guarantee that any one particular HG will be evicted, the HOH must prepare for the worst and have alternates that will benefit him if things don't go his way. Lisa was thrown by the Veto. Marcellas simply didn't use his head (or used the "other head" if he has designs on Roddy ). I don't think Roddy will make the same mistake, but he might catch a case of Chiaraitis and do something wacko. Who knows? |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 11:16 pm     I think Roddy will be a target after his week as HOH. And he may well be targetted by any number of people: Lisa, Danielle, Jason, Josh, Gerry, Marcellas, Amy (assuming survival) maybe even Eric or Chiara (if she gets more wacked out) Who knows indeed? But I'm certainly not looking forward to this week. |
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Fabnsab | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:51 am     I am very sad, indeed. This is going to be so boring if they break up the mar & amy show. Maybe the producers will realize this and sway Roddy in another direction. Like they've never done that before(wink,wink). Roddy is dumb. Amy is in his back pocket and he doesn't even realize it. I think Amy would be more loyal to him than Chia. Mar did make a mistake by putting up the most expendable girl in the alliance. |
Wendo | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:27 am     I don't think Roddy realizes that his biggest competitor is Danielle. Hearing him and Eric talk about her tonight, it's obvious he's clueless, as are the rest of the six. Both Roddy and Eric said they completely trust her. (DOH!) Danielle is playing this game GOOD. She's getting things done the way she wants, without anyone noticing. She's letting the others spin the wheels, make deals, stab others in the back, etc. and coming out squeky clean. Her only problem maybe at the end when it comes to the jury vote. However, those on the jury may respect the way she played the game. To hear Roddy talk, he is so cocky about "their" position that they don't see the enemy in front ot their face. |
C1mag | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:36 am     I still can't believe Roddy. This is by far the most cocky guy that has ever played this game. Will mugged for the cameras. Roddy is sooooo sure he has it all figured out and everyone is just gonna play his game. It's never gonna happen the way he wants. It aint over til its over. He is so insulting. He basically said that he thought they would put in more intelligent people and he feels he has gotten away with murder by keeping in both Gerry and Josh. He has no idea how hard he is gonna fall off his pedastal. I guess it's a new day and the best thing a fan can do is switch gears and hope that Dani prevails along with Jason and HOPEFULLY Marcellus will still be in the mix. Amy is toast this week but thats ok. The key is next weeks HoH. Dani, Marc, or Jason has to get it to turn this puppy around. |
Eliz87 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 05:01 am     I'm thinking he will nominate Gerry and Danielle. |
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