Archive through July 25, 2002
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Is Josh a nice guy after all????!!!:
Archive through July 25, 2002
Wink | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:59 pm     LOL Bastable and Off. Agreed. |
Pirate | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:01 pm     Braveheart, just do a search on Furry and you'll find all her posts. Read to your hearts content. I can't seem to find any redeaming qualities of the Josh I see in the BB house. A few tears do not change my mind. I hope I can say Buh-Bye to Josh this week. |
C1mag | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:03 pm     It's all in the editing. The un edited version is the same <> that entered the house. The edited version begs for the viewer to stay tunned. This man would sale his parents into slavery to stay in this game. |
Csnog | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:18 pm     Josh is a user of people. Look what he did when Marc offered him his box to be nice to Gerry. He turned him down. Josh is morally bankrupt. For him to treat Gerry as he did was unforgivable to me. He must treat elders around him the same way. The only thing I feel for Josh is PITY for not being brought up better. |
Muse | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:26 pm     I do think that Josh has a good side. I find him annoying for various reasons (crass behavior, how arrogant he seems at times, etc), but I've seen some good as well. I think he overplays the game a lot, and that doesn't make him look very good. He's not a smooth manipulator (although he claims differently ), either. The only think that *really* bothers me about Josh is his treatment of Gerry. That just crosses the line. I bet he's a good friend and nice enough person in real life, but I don't think I could ever like the BB version of Josh after seeing some of the things he's said to Gerry. I think his paranoia makes him act out in certain ways, and his pride prevents him from admitting it was stupid (or rude, or whatever). Too bad, since I think I could overlook the other stuff if it wasn't for that. Btw - Furry, you're a good friend for standing up for Josh the way you have. And it's admirable that you can come here and post (and be a very nice and civil poster at that! ), despite all the Josh bashing that goes on. |
Wink | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:31 pm     Muse I don't care for Gerry at all but I agree that Josh has gone way over the line when it comes to Gerry and unfortunately for both of them there's no going back. |
Lizardsamongus | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:40 pm     I think the reason we were given this depiction of Josh is because he is not going anywhere. I'm betting Tonya is out 5-3. CBS doesn't want us to be too disappointed when Josh stays. |
Wendo | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:42 pm     "Is Josh a nice guy after all????!!! " Hmmm....within the context of BB, the game, the feeds, and the show (not based on Josh outside the house 'cause I don't know wit about him). Nope, I don't think he's a nice guy at all. Tears with Danielle don't change my mind. He wasn't crying b/c of some realization (oh, I've been terrible to Gerry, etc.), he cried b/c he's upset he has to leave. He f**ked up and realizes it. Plain and simple. |
Marcellasfan | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:07 pm     Josh is not nice. He was emotional because he is afraid he's leaving the house not because of any remorse for his actions. His machinations go beyond "playing the game" to just downright despicable. I just hope he's gone tomorrow! |
Mrs_Taz | Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:42 pm     If Josh is as sensitive as he says he is, then you wouldn't expect him to be treating Gerry the way he has been treating him. He would be sensitive to his feelings and he could care less. He might be trying to show he can act by going from one extreme to the next in hopes that it makes it on the show and he is "discovered". Maybe there's a part for this "extra" somewhere. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:10 am     I hope we all get to find out he is a nice guy. I've never appreciated his game face, although hope he approaches real life (and the people in it) differently. |
Furry | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:16 am     Hello? Just seeing if anyone is out there. |
Goddess146 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:30 am     Josh did say on National Television that he had "no morals whatsoever" when it came to playing this game. Josh did lie when he said he did not suggest the nomination of Marc. Josh has promised to almost everyone that he will not nominate or vote against them. Josh did cheat in the food competition. Josh did tell how he steals from hotel honor bars. Josh does carefully choose his words so he can go back on his word when he needs to. Josh did take things told him confidence to other people. Josh did say he does not have any friends in the real world. I wonder why he does not have friends. If he really does have friends, why did he lie about it? |
Jkm | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 05:28 am     Josh --- Arnold Horseshack --- Sweathogs -- you make the connection........ |
Bbfanatic | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:31 am     nope ! i still can not stand him. I have been watching BB too long to fall for their editing. |
Julieboo | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:23 am     I agree with Marcella (He was emotional because he is afraid he's leaving the house not because of any remorse for his actions.) and Mr. Taz. (If Josh is as sensitive as he says he is, then you wouldn't expect him to be treating Gerry the way he has been treating him.) Josh was only emotional cuz he was sad Dani didn't veto him... |
Ryn | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:48 am     I did feel bad with the tearing up segment, but as others have said, her has done an awful lot of other stuff that is not very nice. Marcel offered an Olive branch and Josh refused. (ed - rant - one thing that ticks me off is there was probably A LOT more said at that point and CBS edited it down to Josh saying 'no' - he might very well have rationalized his reasons but that would not help the 'story' so the cut it out) We shall see tonight if we get more of him. I don't think CBS slanted the show one way or another, I think it was in the can before the votes Wednesday AM - so they had to play both angles (Tonya and Josh). |
Cherylbinnc | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:34 am     From what I’ve seen (or from what he has chosen to show us), I don't like Josh. I would otherwise have thought that choosing the least likeable from this year’s crop would be difficult, but Josh makes it easy. That being said, he is also the one person in the house for whom I have any respect. Again, considering the whack-jobs we have to choose from, being considered the most worthy of respect isn’t exactly a great accomplishment, but nevertheless, as big a (censored) as Josh appears to be, I am starting to notice some admirable traits. I have to hand it to this guy. Had he not given his word, he would have voted Lori out of there in a heartbeat. But he HAD given his word—and he kept it. That really got my attention. I don’t like the way he treats Gerry at all (regardless of what Gerry did) but he is completely up front about it. While bartering for the veto, he refused to accept an offer involving his being nice to Gerry. It would have been easy to think, “sure, I can fake being nice to the (censored) for a few days for the sake of the game” but Josh made it clear that he would not compromise his true feelings for Gerry, even for the veto. And, where does Marcellus get off trying to make that deal, anyway? It’s made me cringe to hear the way he and Amy have ripped Gerry to shreds behind his back. Until last night I rather liked Marcellus and even Amy, and I’m sure I will continue to find them most entertaining, but any real esteem I might have had for Marcellus is gone. Hypocrites. It makes me sick to see Tonya smugly report how she told Amy "if you have something to say, say it to my face”. The next time The Three <>are in the bedroom gossiping about Amy behind *her* back, how about they invite Amy in so they can say it to *her* face? Hypocritical, phony, b******. Say what you will about Josh. Say you don’t like him—-I don't think I do, either. But at least the man has *some* principles. For that matter, who am I to hold it against Josh that, while he has some redeeming qualities, he also has some obnoxious ones? Don’t we all? He does remind me of Will in a lot of ways. I didn’t like Will either, but I was so glad to see him win. It wasn’t so much that he deserved to win, it was more of a feeling that everyone else deserved to lose. Not only do I like Josh more than when I first "met" him, I think I like him more than when I first started this post. Cheryl |
Sonia | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:48 am     Cheryl, your post descripts exactly my thinking too. I couldn't say better. By the way, are you the Cheryl of BB2? If you're, welcome on this board, it's very interesting to read you. If you're not, welcome anyway! LOL It still very interesting and nice to read you! |
Ryn | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:56 am     Cheryl - Question.... What has Jason done to make you respect Josh more? Just curious |
Karuuna | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:57 am     I've never thought it particularly helpful or wise to ascribe motivations to someone I don't know particularly well. So to me it's a bit of stretch for anyone to say they know what motivated Josh's tears. Josh started off the game quite harshly and arrogantly; however he does seem to have adapted his behavior somewhat. To me, that's a sign of some maturity in itself. Whether he's a nice guy or not, I'll leave up to those who know him best. All I've seen of him is two weeks in a contrived and somewhat bizarre situation. I can't imagine thinking that's enough to know someone. Heck if I were in that house, I'd be running around to each and everyone of them saying "will you just please grow up?" And they'd be thinking, "look who's talking!"  |
Ryn | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:57 am     Sheryl spells her name this way ;) And I bet her son ('Sherbal' on this site) would let us know if mom was gonna start posting |
Sweetgirl4josh | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:24 am     I LOVE *Josh* I dont understand why anyone else doesnt! He's so good looking! It totally drives me crazy! If he goes tonight I'll probably give up on BB! How does Furry know *Josh*? |
Cherylbinnc | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:34 am     <<What has Jason done to make you respect Josh more?>> Geeeeez there I go again!! I keep forgetting about Jason. Last night I was trying to guess how the voting will go, but kept coming up one short. Jason. Jason, Jason, Jason. I gotta keep repeating that or I'll forget him again. Okay, re-read my post but insert "except Jason" after everything. No, Sonia, as you have already been informed, I am not Sheryl. But hello to you, too! Cheryl |
Ryn | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:50 am     ok Cheryl, just making sure Jason had not done something I was unaware of ;) he really does define the term 'flying under the radar' |
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