What about Lisa?
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Jkm

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Her name seems to have slipped off of most conversations in the past hours. Is she trying to sit back awhile? Or just nothing new? No new connection hopping or just not as exciting as the rest of the drama?

Maisie52

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she is just sitting back and i think she is playing the game perfectly. Besides her, what I think is, wrong choice for Eric, she is doing great. It is a tough call as to who will take this game.

Tabbyking

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmmm....interesting point. i think perhaps seeing the mess tonya has gotten into and the jealousy and games chi is playing right now makes lisa want to distance herself from them. it makes sense to me, but i think i would have done it from the start.
yes, i have no idea what it's like to be a houseguest on BB; however, being one of 9 kids makes me remember being friendly with different siblings at different times and sometimes being alone and just sort of all living together without huge squabbles. perhaps if i were crazy enough to have tried to get onto BB3, i would have tried that large family approach: i would not have made alliances right off the bat, would have been friendly with people, found the ones who liked to play cards and done that for a while, found the ones who liked to swim and done that for a while, and just sort of been all around and appropriately friendly, helpful,or standoffish as each circumstance called for.
watching the houseguests, it almost seems like major acting for so many of them, which leads to so many lies and who did they say 'that' to, and what did so and so tell this person about that person...it would be hard to remember what conniving i had done. so it seems easiest just to be myself and be at least surface-friendly with everyone. i wouldn't tell the others who i was voting for. i would listen to those who wanted to appeal to me for not voting them out, but would be noncommital. no promises!! because things change too quickly and too easily and i would not be able to keep the promise maybe...i would like to feel i had the choice up the last second to pick one person over another.
that way, i wouldn't be disappointed when a 'best friend' (yeah right, in that house?!) turned on me. there can only be one winner, and that is known right from the start. i wouldn't want to become totally attached to any one person.

Ark

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't like Lisa at first but she's growing on me. I don't think that she really likes Amy all that much but last night, after the blow up, the food people were sitting down to eat and Amy didn't seem to know what to do. Lisa piped up and said "Amy sit down, come on Sweety, sit down and eat." I thought that was so nice of her. I really think that she and Dani are playing this game very well.

Katrina

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the camera people are keeping her in the background also. After the blow-up, there was an interesting convo between Danielle and Lisa about whether to vote out Josh or Tonya, which one they could better stand to have around for another week. Lisa is clearly becoming very disenchanted with both of them and thinking deeply on what her strategy should be, given past agreements versus their behavior, etc. Just as it got intersting, LF's all switched to E. and R. playing chess, which was way more boring. I think maybe she's keeping herself a background player and so are the camera people. For now.

Maisie52

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What blowup Ark?? Can you tell me what happened. Thanks.

Ladytex

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She is playing a good game. She is nice to everyone (at least to their faces) and doesn't cause scenes.

Katrina

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maisie, see "What just happened" thread for the account as it happened and got everyone all excited last night!

Emo1979

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 09:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I actually am really starting to like Lisa - I think she was initially portrayed as the bitchy, self-obsessed one, so I was prepared not to like her, but I don't think that's panned out at all.

She seems the least self-obsessed, and while she did join in the sex talk an awful lot, it seems like she's mellowed in that area as well and certainly seems to flaunt it the least. She also seems to be reasonably intelligent, and kind to everyone. I don't get what's going on between her and Eric, though. Eric just reminds me of a big gorilla!

Now, Chiara I was prepared to like because she was portrayed as the sweet girl next door type originally. For awhile there I thought she was the worst houseguest outside of Josh, but now I'm just really starting to feel sorry for her... she's got problems, or at least is not handling herself well in the house.

Tonya, well, Tonya is a just a living blowup doll. I don't hate her... and I'm certainly NOT jealous of her. She's the quintessential dumb blonde with the fake body to match. If being that makes her happy, I guess that's her business. It just sickens me to watch her and offends me people actually WANT to look like that. You couldn't pay me all the money in the world to be like that! I really feel sorry for her kids. The part that really bothers me the most about her is how she rarely seems to think about them or care about them.

Texastillie

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also did not like Lisa at first but I think she is playing a good game. I expect to see her and Roddy as the final two.

Crossfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know...regarding the Tonya<->kids issue.

Last year, I felt we got too much info on the kids, in particular, I recall Krista having too much to say. Lucky for her, I have about a two second memory and recall not the specifics, just that I did not like it, and felt she should have just STFU about it.

Without presuming to know what Tonyas up to and given what little we have been told, I think it is just as well that she also keeps her piehole shut.

In the long term, it is better for her, and better for the kids. I am more afraid that anything she does say, will cause more harm than the fact that she seems to have little to say.

Emo1979

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 11:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't mean specifics ABOUT the kids... just some sign that she's thinking about them/missing them, like "Oh, I miss so and so a lot."

Admittedly Danielle doesn't talk much about her kids either, but I think she's probably TRYING not to give out much in the way of specifics. She has vaguely talked about them many more times more than Tonya has. I mean, the thing that did it for me was when Tonya said she was excited about having sex when she got out of the house. No mention about seeing her kids or anything.

I agree that specifics about underage kids should probably be avoided. But the biggest problem these kids will have to deal with (Tonya's especially) is the stuff that their mom is actually doing, not stuff she's saying about them. ;)

Crossfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 11:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I knew what you meant, I just think it is too risky. I don't trust her to speak.


Krista got into a similar PR snafu like the 'when I get out' issue when she spent her bonus winnings on flowers for booger.

Emo1979

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 11:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL... I know! I cringe every time T says anything...!

Max

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 12:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought this was a thread about Lisa.

Jkm

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 01:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That was the idea....

Lisa, where oh where has our little girl gone, oh where oh where can she be....

oops singing again FOTH.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 01:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is a smart player, but kinda sneaky. Maybe those two things go hand-in-hand. I think she's mousey and boring, but that just might get her in the final two. She already had secret talk with Amy about not liking Chi Chi's petty jealousy and the PMS episode. The girl is hedging her bets, which is smart.

On the other hand, she is selling out my favorite (guess who?), would willingly take her man (let's not argue semantics), and waits for others to have enough personality to make some waves while she reaps the rewards. Sneaky.

Thefunnyfarm

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 06:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have thought Lisa was "the sleeper" in this from the beginning. Thought she, Dani and Roddy were the ones to "watch" Lisa is individually aligning herself with each person, i.e. talks with Dani about Chi and Tonya, talks with Amy, talked to Marc right away after nomination. Did you notice last night after the blow up that she said "boy I'm glad I'm just one of the guys" when she was sitting there with Eric and Roddy? She has been friendly with everyone to their face, and also talked bad about everyone behind their back..... yet she has not ruffled anyone's feathers. She is playing the game well, although she would not be my choice.

I think the others are catching on to Roddy, and Danielle has butted in a few to many times.

Sam222

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa is playing a very smart game, right now she is toally kissing up to Amy, talking about the whole Roddy drama, how she is staying out of it. In my opinion she is the one that really pushed it on Chiara, she call Amy white trash. Now that it has blown up she is stepping back and making Chiara look really bad (not that hard to do, but she helped) She also said it would be great if Amy was HOH and how it would be good to shake things up, Gerry is too obvious. I think she wants Chiara gone and is working it.

Wendo

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 10:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lisa realized that after week one and being HOH, it was best to sit back and observe. She's done a good job of that. Not on the map of most of the HG's.

However, I can't stand the "little girl voice" she gets when she's with Eric. Those times, I want to slap her. Ugh.

p.s. anyone know what happened to JokersUpdates.com???