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Braveheart61901

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My feelings towards Josh are starting to change and I am beginning to see a more human side to him. Mind you, at the beginning, I despised him with every fiber of my being.

But now....I see something there that has softened my feelings for him.

Any comments?

Squaredsc

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
no, i still feel exactly the same about him. still despise him.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the title of this thread is gonna have Furry over here soon (poster who is a personal friend of Josh). Not making judgments, just that it's inevitable.

Floresmama

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he definitely has a human side but all that Nazi crap he heaped on Gerry and the way he treats him like dirt is unforgivable.

Twiggyish

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know. I have mixed feelings.

Missy2

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My Josh stock went up - :)

Moderator

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Changed the title of the thread to be less of a bash.

(c)

Bmh

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol i also still feel exactly the same way about him..I still hate him more than anyone else in the house..and he will NOT be another Will where we will all like him in a couple of weeks if he stays..I wont allow myself to like him..and I doubt BB can find redeeming qualities about him anyways

Aloha1961

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i still think he's a *****..on tonights show the way he is playing on dani and marce because he is jewish and says he's the only one who can relate to them...

this is absolutly nuts he talks about gerry playing the race card, what the heck did he do.... he's a *****... i don't think i have ever in my 41 yrs of living disliked someone so much as i dislike josh, that i can almost say hate...and even more he makes me angry for feeling this way towards him

Crossfire

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That nazi stuff, and racism woe is me victim crap is too much for me.

Puttergirl

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Feeling sorry for yourself doesn't make you a better person. Remembering what it feels like when you feel hurt, and then treating others better so they don't have to feel that way, makes you a better person. His emotional moment tonight isn't going to make him treat others better.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think he's a nice guy, but he does have feelings deep down like any human being. That being said, if he feels like he has no hope, then he has no one to blame but himself. He went about the game all wrong from day one and refused to make the necessary adjustments to make up for it.

Delilah

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was a little surprised by his emotional side but even &^*^%&**()#$@#$#'s have one I guess. I was touched but I think it is just because he knows his game is up.

Archie

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Everytime they show him in the diary room and I hear him going on and on about his strategy and how great he is I want to turn the channel.

Braveheart61901

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just think that tonight we saw Josh having some fun (bowling) and joking before the veto meeting. Then, at the end, the tears...I know some will say he's fake....but I'm trying damn hard to find some redeeming quality(ies) in him. I get the impression that perhaps....perhaps...he's beginning to see the error of his ways. Maybe I'm naive??

Furry

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon- I'm Here! But refraining from commenting for the time being.

(Oh wait, I guess I just blew the whole "no-comment" thing by posting here. Oh well, nobody's perfect.)

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know it might have been a pretty good example that these people are not so one diminsional. That we on the boards like to group these HG's as either "good". or "bad". When in fact each have good and bad qualities. FOr example there are people who just love to death Marcellas and Amy. Maybe because they were percieved to be underdogs the first week. But this afternoon while we had all four fedds on them at one time I must say that if any of the six talked that way about other HG's then there would be a thread talking about how evil they are.

Braveheart61901

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Furry -

Are you really a friend of Josh? How hard is it for you to read these things? Can you give us any insight on the real Josh? Or maybe you already have and I missed it??

Aloha1961

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
i agree with Delilah i think he knows his game is up and he knows these people are gonna see the tapes of his diary room entries and he won't have a friend on the show... remember he went against the "Six Pack" and voted to evict amy instead of lori like he told them he would...(even though that was noble of him to keep his word to lori) but doesn't change my opinion of him sorry

Furry

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes, I am really his friend. (I'm ducking so please don't throw things!) Actually, I've written a few comments on this board, but I'm running out the door now to go meet some friends to watch the show. I'll try to pop in here tomorrow. Night all!

Sunlit

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh did come off differently tonight, but we also saw an edited 45 minute version that seemed heavily focused on Josh. I don't know how much any of it swayed my opinion of him. There were too many shots of body parts, mainly Tonya's, but I know I'm not the only viewer CBS tries to please. :) I would love to see a condensed 45 minute version of Amy and Marc's laughter, but she seemed really harsh tonight and I think Arnie might stick to his characterization of Amy. I noted that Lisa, especially, seemed a non player in the house, and I for one don't think that's true.

Lurknomore

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok gonna get into my personal life philosophy for 5 seconds. Aside from the Hilter's of the world I don't think that most people are all good or all bad. Philosophy done (told you I'd be brief lol).

I think Josh probably has a nice side as a person in the real world. That said I HATE how he has played the game and treated other people. I think in the game his nice side is teensy weensy (smaller than most of Tonya's bikini's).

Wink

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
>>>>I think Josh probably has a nice side as a person in the real world.<<<<

I agree Lurk. I think he does have a conscience and for me that puts him in a different category than Mike from last year. I think what we saw of Mike Boogie was the sum total of that guy. There was not another side to him. He plays the game of life the same smarmy way he played BB. To me Josh is ruled by his emotions and Mike had none.

Bastable

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sure he's a nice person. Everyone is at heart. But it's true that the pressure of this situation has made him do and say plenty of ill-advised things. He's not cut out for the stress of this game. I'm sure he'll see new things about himself once he gets out. Crocodile tears from the Lizard Boy.

Off2cthwizrd

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted one message when the show first started and haven't been able to get in again. Hopefully it's fixed this time. Thanx, Gail!

I just wanted to say that I do believe that Josh probably behaves differently outside the house...so let's let him get back to that...outside the house. :)