DR Biased against Amy?!?
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Bigbrotherbelle

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy just got finished telling Danielle, Chiapet, and Lisa that THE DR TOLD Roddy Amy said Chiapet was using her sexuality to manipulate Jason. Before that, he had no idea she said that at all. That is a serious transgression... what is said in there is supposed to be private from the other HGs and can seriously effect the voting. This makes me so mad.

Goddess146

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This has happened numerous times. The producers are clearly manipulating the HGs with the DR questions. Next thing you know, the producers will be flying banners.

Crossfire

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't mind that it happens, only that they try to pretend that it doesn't.

Poohbear

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess: Yes, that is totally ridiculous (not to mention completey unfair) "IF" the DR really told Roddy that. But, I certainly wonder if Roddy did'nt make that up to make sure that Chiara doesn't change her mind about Amy and go for "Girl Power". He sure seemed unnerved tonight that the girls (Including Amy) were getting along so well. He's a slick one... Watch for him to continue to stir the pot against Amy this week.

Pooh :)

Wcv63

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The DR has in the past created tensions in the house for Amy. Namely, the Chiara/Roddy/Amy triangle. Of course, Amy did say she only got what she asked for but does skewering one players opportunities for winning the game really constitute "fair play"?

Perhaps Pooh is right and Roddy is using his own observations (I mean Chiara isn't very subtle about her actions) to once again manipulate Chiara.

Neither scenario is beyond the scope of believability. But may I just say that a filelocking filelock?!!

Minnyace01

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's make sure that we don't take things out of context again. I don't believe that Roddy said that the diary room told him that it was Amy that said it, but it was implied based upon the conversation he was having, that it was she who said it.

Bigbrotherbelle

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He said specifically "They asked me what I thought about the fact that Amy felt Chiara was using her sexuality to manipulate Jason."

They were quite surprised that the DR revealed this to Shoddy themselved and did remark about how they thought the conversations in there were private.

There's the context and I assure you it does not change the implications of the actions of the DR.

Jhezzie

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The DR is BB. BB will stir the pot at all times. They plant seeds of mistrust, doubt, deception. I also believe that they do slant against the HG who is most likely out.
I think Amy is really getting screwed over here. I know she hasn't handled some things well, but she has got to feel under attack most of the time. She's the fave geek target of the cool cheerleaders. This is a sad bunch.

Jojo

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The conversation I heard with the girls, he said the DR told him Amy said this. Dani immediately got worried and said that she didn't think that the DR was supposed to reveal things like that. Roddy said that this was the first time they had revealed something like that to him. I'm not sure he isn't making the whole thing up about Amy saying this. I think he's trying to make sure Jason votes against Amy because Roddy told him about this earlier.

I'm sure Dani will be in the DR getting the truth about this matter. If the DR is saying so and so said this, noone would be telling the DR anything. They might have asked Roddy if he thought C was using her sexuality on Jason, and he decided to embilish the story to his advantage.

Minnyace01

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If a couple of people heard it that way, I stand corrected.

Oregonfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason and Chiara currently on the hammock, discussing the "DR Amy/using your sexuality to control Jason" comment. They are laughing and fine with it. Chiara said that Arnie said she looks like Winnie Cooper (the Wonder Years). Jason laughs and agrees.

Jhezzie

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If Chia is so fine and comfy with her expressions of sexuality, why has she been explaining and justifying it all night? Sheesh!

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Oregon, for the clarification. I thought it was Chiara was on the hammock with Roddy ~ shows how bad the pic on my feed is! But listening to Chiara running around and whining to as many people as possible about what Amy supposedly said in the dr - she's complaining about everyone knowing about it. Well, by announcing it so much - yes, we all now know about it.

After all that Chiara has done and said on the live feeds, why the sudden innocence act? OR as Poohbear said ~ is Roddy playing both girls? Good question.

Minnyace01

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kappy - how many times do we have to go over it. We've hashed it to death and both R, E, and C have stated that he was playing A. Lets move on.

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm discussing behavior that's happened in the last two hours, Minny. Leave me alone.

Trulyscrumtious

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dan, Chi & Lisa were just outside discussing the fact that the Diary room told Rod something that Amy had said (in re to Chi), and Dani lifted her mike saying quite clearly to the people listening in the house, that that was just WRONG! Then, wouldn't you know it...FOTH! Grrrr...

Enigma

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 03:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I fell compelled as an avid BB fan and a lurker on this board from bb1 though bb3, to voice my anger on what now appears to be a blatant violation of rules. Big Brother has not only broken their on rules (regarding Diary room conversations and eating violations) they (BB) may very well be in violation of a few federal game show regulations as well. Hmmm….does the $20,000 dollar pyramid scandal rules mean anything?
One such case however does come to mind. A few months after the second season of Survivor, I recall a couple of contestants protested and filed suit against CBS claiming the game was rigged. Among the complaints where; The shows producers where in fact pushing one contestant over others and, events where rigging to favor the outcome over other contestants.

Where these charges later dropped due to an undisclosed settlement by CBS???? Makes ya go hmmm…

If I was Amy I would seek an attorney fast. She has been setup by the DR twice so far. Both times regarding Rodless and Chiapet. And yes… I heard Rodless say "They asked me what I thought about the fact that Amy felt Chiara was using her sexuality to manipulate Jason."

And yes … I heard Amy say that the, “DR told Chiapet about Rodless and her (Amy’s) conversation", which started this whole triangle mess. Does anyone disaggree this is the biggest factor why Amy is on the block? Thanks BB

Now, Is this enough for any contestant to be worried what else is being a said and done behind their backs to ensure that a fare game is not to be had? Yes!

CBS…. This is by far the worst Big Brother show yet…. Arnold should be fired…

However, kudos for casting Amy. She ROCK’s and my heart goes out to her.


PS I F**king dare you CBS to LET us ( you know the fans…. Remember ) have a veto say! If not, BB3 will only be remembered by as the Beavis and Butthead show part 3.

C1mag

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 03:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that they are blatantly controling the house this year. I wouldn't be surprised if both Dani and jason were manipulated into booting Tonya. All they would have to do is place a couple subliminal thoughts and you've got a whole new game on your hands. I think it sucks. The whole air of this years contest seems VERY intense. It seems as if they are ALWAYS playing the game. Just when they try to have some down time someone comes out of that DR and things start heating up.

Eliz87

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 04:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You all have GOT to be kidding. The drama this creates is top-notch. Haven't we all expressed before the desire for BB to get inside the HG's heads more instead of just treating them with hospitality and kindness? Isn't this the very IDEA of Big Brother?

Missy2

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 05:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
can you say ugh?

can you kill me now, before the world becomes too small because of king roddy's huge ego?

i love both amy and marc - they have made this show interesting! amy is getting a raw deal. yes she is a princess, but she is not as "mean" as she claims or as horrible as king roddy is making her out. she has a strong personality and she rocks! can you imagine watching chiara and lisa picking at roddy and erics backacne for the last four weeks of the show? oh my goodness. please oh please just put the live feeds on the lizards for the rest of the show.

What555456

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Who is to say what the DR people are doing? So much of what these people say in the DR are things they have said to one or two or more outside of it. Thus, the DR need not break any confidences by talking about what was said in the house. The fact someone learns about it in the DR from the interviewers is not indicative that what is being said in the DR has been compromised.

One also has to wonder if the DR is actually telling people anything -- or just asking questins that lead the person to believe they are being told something.

However, it would make for a great turn in the mentality in the house if all thes epeople begin to believe they cannot even trust the DR with their real thoughts. They are finding out that they can trust no one in the house. If they then decide they cannot trust the one place they thought they could unload, the tension will rise wonderfully and the resulting drama could be quite interesting.

Yea, this could be quite an interesting development.

But it won't last. The producers will defuse this because they need that free self expression -- so they can use it on TV as well as the stir up more trouble.

Piratesbay

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If a HG says something ONLY in the DR and it is then repeated by another HG of course, it makes sense to conclude that it was repeated to another HG in the Diary Room. That's why Amy was so upset last week when she said that BB had f'd her.

It's blatantly skewing the show. I've got a list going. I'm up to 58....

Smartypants

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm just wondering if anyone has actually heard or read about Amy saying that Chia's crude, crass... language was making Jason feel uncomfortable? I have read, on this board, that live feed viewers think she is acting inappropriately toward Jason but I haven't heard a houseguest say those words. I have heard Amy say that she thought that Chia's conversations were disgusting, etc... but not mentioning Jason in particular. Sometimes I think that the DR people read our posts and then talk to the houseguests about what we've seen or analyzed...
Then the houseguest just assume that another houseguest shared their views when really it was the viewer that told them the scoop. I also agree that it is likely that people coming out of the DR are probably making stuff up - but (another question) aren't the houseguest told that they are not to talk about their DR entries???

Confusion.

Earthmother

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
People don't go off on a tangent. Anyone can come out of the DR and say "they said this and that", but do we really know that? The name of this game should be "Lie Your Ass Off." How can we expect anyone in that house to trust someone if we can't even seperate truth from fact and we see and hear most of it. I do not believe BB is divulging secrets to anyone. I do believe if they hear a convo between two people that they take that info and ask questions about it and then the HGs can take that info and use it to their own advantage.

Draheid

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Has anyone considered, isn't it just possible that, given all the other conversations that are 'overheard' whether intentionally or unintentionally, some of the people might be using this information for their own gain, yet putting it off as BB is providing them with the information?? Otherwise, some future conversations might not take place if they suspect that they might be overheard by another HG. In fact, I don't recall seeing anything in these threads that the HG's have claimed to have come from the DR that hasn't also been openly discussed elsewhere. JMHO &

Azriel

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I still remember when Mega had to fess up and apologize to the other HGs when he lied and told them the DR told him to rearrange the furniture. ~wistful sigh~

Auntie

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Have to agree with Eliz87 on this one. I thought the DR could ask about anything including other houseguests' DR entries, but that houseguests themselves were advised not to talk about DR conversations outside the DR. BB should do more manipulation. Just wish BB allowed viewer manipulation too--banners, megaphone lady, tennis ball messages, voting for nominees.