An Epiphany on Negativity
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An Epiphany on Negativity
Eliz87 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:49 am     I just had an epiphany (hehehe for the BB2 watchers) and wanted to share it with everyone. This board is on the Big Brother FAN CLUB website. As such, don't you all find the negative comments about the HG's ironic? Isn't a fan club supposed to be reserved for positive comments? I remember in the first season, although there was some negativity, the mods really tried to subdue it as much as possible. This has changed in the past two years. Is it just that the HG's have become increasingly less likeable with each season of the show? I've noted my posts on this board this year, and I don't think I've had one good thing to say about any of the HG's except for Marcellas, and I did try to defend Tonya a bit at first, and even said I laughed at one of Josh's jokes one night. Other than that, I've been pretty nasty about Chiara, and Gerry, and Danielle, and I just think it's interesting that I'm posting my thoughts about them on a FAN CLUB site. hmmmm |
Earthmother | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:59 am     I thought it was a fan club for BB the show not necessarily for the people inside. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:01 am     Godluvya, Earthmother. Second the notion. |
Marcieb | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:13 am     I don't know that all fans are sightless in their devotion. Wouldn't it mean, despite someone's failings, you still admire them? Think of Michael Jackson's fans, for example, do they all think of him as pure as the driven snow because his music makes them happy? Or I mentioned John McEnroe in another post, I know he acted like a jerk on court but was the most talented player I've ever seen. So I'm still a fan. See? With BB3, we see the warts but still take the time to watch and read about it, sharing thoughts with others here at the fan club. |
Csnog | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:19 am     I'm sorry to say that I don't like this years show. There is NOT one house guest that I can root for or even love to hate. This is not entertainment because it is mostly MEAN spirited and I don't like how BB is finding the house guests at the nearest porn shows. Give me a break are all of American young people so mean and nasty to their elders? I hope not. |
Ocean_Islands | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:20 am     I won't comment about this site but the HGs are less likeable than before. The first year the HGs were chosen for interests' sake. Now they are chosen for competitiveness. Few of them have anything interesting to say and even someone somewhat intelligent (like Roddy but he's not that smart since he went on this show) hides his intelligence, dumbs himself down and dumbs us down in the process. |
Moderator | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:20 am     It is good for everyone to keep in mind when posting this is a Fan Club and not a Hate Club. It's true we all have difference of opinions, and It's ok to disagree with someone. But it is not ok to come here and be rude attacking people or the House Guests, baiting people, and calling people names. That kind of negativity we do not need. If you disagree with someone's post that is fine, but do it in a respectful manner without flaming and baiting. Our goal here at TVCH is to have fun, and we want you to have a enjoyable experience here as well. Everyone's cooperation is needed to make this a reality. Thank You! 007 |
Inkydinkyspider | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:21 am     FAN CLUB F-Find A-a N-noteworthy C-characterisation L-lurking in this U-unlikely B-bunch |
Realitytvaddict | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:29 am     Csnog: I can safely say that this young adult is NEVER rude to her elders. I have a problem with calling people by their first name and I'm 26. Yes, I still use the words sir and mam as well. My mother is still complimented on her children's manners and we're not children anymore. lol I guess maybe that's a cliche in this day and age. Obviously, most of these people were brought up not to respect people. Some of their manners are atrocious. I've never seen women act like Lisa and Chi. I guess I just hang around with classy people. Interesting, that someone from Manhattan is this low on the class meter. I don't like any of them but Amy and Mar. I can't respect women that talk like men. I can't respect men that talk like buffoons. I don't think any of these people have had a stable relationship in their lives. |
Keiffer | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:35 am     I don't think that people on here really hate this years HG's more than last year. The first few weeks last year was a non-stop bashing of CT, and how they were evil, and mean spirited. The reason for this change from the way we percieved BB1 and the next two is very simple. In the first BB the American public voted out the HG's. They were shown very early on if you stirred the pot, or stuck your head up at all you would be voted out the first time you came up for eviction. That meant that BB1 HG's had to be the love bed group, and never say anything negative towards another HG. I am sure had they voted each other out we would not be holding them up as the angels of reality TV. One last thing I just don't remember the group from BB1 having "interesting to say and even someone somewhat intelligent ". They couldn't say anything controversial about politics, religion, or life views because they knew that could cost them votes with the American public. |
Grannygrunt | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:42 am     OK Gang, let's don't forget about Jason. What mother wouldn't be proud to call him her son? He shows his manners and even last night when everyone was bashing Gerry and his habits, Jason jumped in and said to take him off to the side, or when they see him do something, to correct him on it and not in the presence of everyone else. I know most of the houseguests are crude but PLEASE don't throw Jason in that lot. CAN YOU GUESS I REALLY LIKE JASON??? |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 09:53 am     Personally, I always hope on reality shows to locate a contestant with characteristics to which I can relate (and then root for them 'til I bleed out the eyes). This particular group seems to have been overloaded with contestants lacking in maturity, emotional depth and compassion. Combine that with an overweening lack of intellect, well -it's kind of left me rudderless with this group. Nonetheless, there is still the ability to pick out the best qualities of the people within the group - Marcellas' attempts to treat Gerry with kindness (yes, it's wearing on him, but he's the only one who tries - he's just buckling under the pressure of being Gerry's lone lifeline); Amy's humor and attempts to maintain feminine decorum; ummmmmm - I'm stalling here. Anyway, it's still fun to watch how things play out for the good or the bad of it. I just hope that next year they attempt to pick a group of players who can marshall an intellectually interesting approach to the game, as opposed to this predictable one based upon who is sleeping with whom. |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:00 am     Granny - I'm glad you pointed that out about Jason. I liked Jason, but had written him off after he voted for Josh regardless of how brutally cruel Josh had been to Gerry. Cruelty (or tolerance of it) is a quality I can't accept (understand it's a game, but still). That led me to believe Jason wasn't quite the choirboy he seemed. I have to go reevaluate now and maybe post some nice things about Jason. |
Marcieb | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:08 am     Granny--I like Jason, too, and voted for him in the People's Choice last night. Since he doesn't reveal himself too much, I'd love to see how he "plays" it with an invitation to dinner. Chiara? Roddy? Dani? Who would it be? Goddess--Finding someone to relate to is so important to how we respond to a show. That's why so many of the great sit com's had ensemble casts (like the Mary Tyler Moore Show had 8 or more regulars and Seinfeld had a dozen or more "semi-regulars.) For me, BB3 has enough 20-somethings that I watch with great interest, having 21- and 19-year-old sons. We didn't do too badly raising them, my husband and I keep reminding ourselves, because, besides the sleeping 'til noon on days off, we don't see a lot of the characteristics the young HG's exhibit. EXCEPT for Jason, Granny! |
Grannygrunt | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:08 am     Goddess, I agree with all that you said and even last night if I recall correctly, Jason said he would join Dani and Mar, but previously had said he was with Roddy all the way. I guess that's playing the game to try and stay on both sides. But at least Jason does show some self-respect by not joining in all the sex talk and by using his manners. So, I'm just trying keep him from being lumped into the others, who apparently, have neither one of the above mentioned traits. (Is that bashing the HG's? If so I apologize) |
Maris | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:15 am     Jason is strategizing and there is nothing that says you have to lay your cards on the table to be a moral or ethical person. Its a game. What sets Jason apart from the others is that he doesnt engage in the toilet talk, the vicious attacks of other HGs or behavior he or any decent person should be ashamed of after their time in the House. The worst thing I have heard him say is he cant take Gerry and I wouldnt be able to take Gerry either. He always seems to be in an amiable mood and will engage in talk with anyone. He has manners and was brought up well instead of being "dragged up" as some of the HGs seem to have been. As far as not being negative on the HGs, well I cant be too negative on Jason, but the six pack? I would be hard pressed to say anything too nice about them because they just arent very nice people. That is what Arnie picked and he picked them for a reason. |
Aylana | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:19 am     Jason in my opinion, is just like the TV Evangelist Christians. They wouldn't say "chit" if they had a mouthful, yet happily sit back and watch some poor soul have it shoved down their throats. Jason to me is the worst kind of representative of christian behavior. How Christian like is it to sit back and not once ask the others to stop the ugly and vicious cruelty towards first Gerry, then Lori, and now Amy. Personally if someone is that good of a Christian, and wants to bring that to the game... then should he not make an example of how ugly and cruel and deceitful his best friend Danielle is? If you drive the get-a-way car, you are considered a criminal the same as the guy who held the gun and entered the bank...right? Jason is for Jason and no one else.. and that is fine... but please do not label his hiding behind his religion, when it serves him and only him, his ability to not only watch as another person is ganged up on in the most disgusting and degrading way... but he also has added to it... little subtle, not too obvious ways.. but he is in there with the Devil, and not on the side of the angels. I respect him least of all the houseguests. We also have to remember.... Jason has been on TV, on radio, and in the business since he was a child. Billy Graham? Jim Baker? You betcha! |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:23 am     Oh, chit - here it comes. I'm taking a personal FOTH for a few. Or is it now a personal lizardcam? And how does one effectively communicate that one is taking a personal lizardcam, particularly if there's no identifiable musical interlude attached thereto? Anyone? |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:25 am     No need to apologize granny. You have the right to express your opinion like everybody else here. CAPEESH? |
Earthmother | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:25 am     Wow did I miss something? I haven't heard Jason shoving his religion down anyone's throat. He is behaving like a nice young man and if he was acting like a fool (not naming names) like some of the others he would be bashed because he should know better due to his upbringing. Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't. How does anyone know what his real stategy is? He hasn't really been forthcoming with his hand yet. |
Csnog | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:26 am     I do like Jason and Amy as well. Marc can be a hoot. I don't like BB screwing with the DR and I think BB is lying to them to create problems. PLEASE PLEASE let them (BB) make their surprise move this week. |
Grannygrunt | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:30 am     Hey, Ketchup........capeesh!! and thanks. |
Earthmother | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:30 am     Jason was not told the whole truth about the Lori and Dani blowup only what Dani wanted him to hear. He wasn't in the room when it first started. If I remember correctly he did say something to Josh about the Gerry bashing and made it clear he didn't approve. If he starts telling them all off he will meet Lori's fate and he knows it. |
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