Ok...... Can we all take a big deeeeep breath before the show? Please?
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Lurknomore

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Lance, I'm a pisces <>< ...we take everything in this world personally anyways. And since you specifically referrenced a few points I made I assumed your post was directed my way. Glad to hear it wasn't just at me. I'm now moving along from this thread and back to the business at hand...this BB addiction :)

Grant

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that members shouldn't be bashing each other - but the game players put themselves in a public position. I watch what these people do in the house and I'm also interested in what they have done outside the house. It completes the picture of who they are.

I haven't seen any post here that has any vulgarity in it or hatefulness to a member. To me that's a moderated site.

Telling people what they can and cannot think or speak about a game player just because their views don't match yours is something different all together.

This is a great site and I wouldn't want to see it get a bad name. Thanks for letting me express my opinion.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, you have that right--it sure is an addiction:)

One thing I do like about thsi show is that so far it's hard to prdict what will happen, Last year Chill Town vs everyone else--and it was obvious who would do what. We've already seen the allainces take on a "fluid nature". What a game this is!

Maryann

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 03:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This was a "i am tired of all the negative stuff, all the bashing, and I am gonna vent a little" thread. <--Ryn
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That's what I figured. I didn't read anything else
into what you said. <Complaining and whining about moderation is against the rules of this board>.

LurkNoMore,I understand exactly how you feel, a part of my life was damaged by a drunk driver as well and I have no sympathy for people who still, in spite of education and a national campaign, indulge themselves this way.
Lance, I have never had a problem with you, you are a reasonable person.

<moderated>

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Goddessatlaw

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cranky night on the boards - thought this could use a bump (Ryn's initial thought, I mean - not all the crankiness that ensued).

Bastable

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey-- is there a way to find out whether you've been edited? I understand that if the post is removed entirely, it's gone, but how can a person find out what objectionable things they might have unthinkingly posted before?

Is there a search that will show you your name and <edited> or something?

Not that I'm worried about myself in the slightest, of course.

Oregonfire

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know. Just were *is* that bottle of Serafin?

Goddessatlaw

Friday, July 26, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon, girl, I'm feeling ya. My head hurts. Is it fun yet? Are we having fun?

Oregonfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This board is a really negative place to be at times. If you are in the minority about liking a HG, it seems that some posters will not tolerate your difference of opinion. It's gotten worse the past few days. Frankly it's a little frightening. Those of you who are in the majority about liking a specific HG, please attempt to to put yourself in the position of the minority. It has gone too far when assumptions are made about your morals or relationships because you like a certain HG or not. Frankly that's too personal for my tastes and feels like someone is trying to reach through the screen into my head or life. That's just too much for me.

I would like to see the discussion stay on the HGs and how they act in the house. I'd also like to see the mainly disliked HGS not discussed quite so much in the context of what they *must* be like outside of the house. Sure real life spills over sometimes and you or I can speculate, but it is just speculation, nothing more nothing less. Nobody *knows* for sure.

Anyway, thought I'd put that out there.

Minnyace01

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire - I agree with you. If you have an opinion of a guest that is different than the majority, it gets nasty. In the one thread that you got into it a little bit, it might very well have been me that triggered it. If it was, thank for taking the hit for me!

Kappy

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The point about keeping the discussion on the hg's and how they act in the house is a good one, Oregon.

Oregonfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi Minnyace! No, I didn't even read the whole thread, but trying to avoid the negative-Chiara ones is getting more difficult by the minute. I noticed a spike in Chiara-hate after Roddy won HOH. Maybe it will die down soon. It is a bit scary.

Wcv63

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire, if it makes you feel any better I don't dislike Chiara anymore than I did before Roddy got HOH. I don't dislike her any less either. I do however feel a lot more negatively towards Roddy and most of that has to do with how he is treating Chiara (and women in general).

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon, you bring up an interesting situation that is unique to BB. You indicate that people make comments/assumptions/speculations about how the HGs are outside of the context of the game.

After BB1, I remember some of the HGs doing interviews and saying how amazed they were that people would come up and talk to them (and even say in some cases out right) as if they had known them all their lives.

It seems a lot of people felt that after watching them 24/7 for 3 months, they knew who they were as people.

Yet, those 3 months were the playing of a game. I'm sure they let out some of who they were, but they still had to play the game. Indeed, as I keep telling myself about Josh (the one I have the most issues with), he may well be completely different as a person than he is as a player of BB.

I also agree with your comments that sometimes people make assumptions about a poster based on who they like in the game.

I've always thought that in a way, we all play a game while watching and posting about BB--making comments about HGs and sometimes each other, trying to root for our favorite, and explain why we should be against those HGs we don't like, etc. Just like they do in the house.

Minnyace01

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok - somebody want to explain to me how Roddy is treating Chiara so poorly. In my mind, he seems to be treating her pretty well, with the exception of the dim-witted argument that they got into the other night. She sure seems to think that things are going well.

Oregonfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess I tend to want to look at all aspects of their relationship, and of all aspects of the HGs in general. Not every moment is a horrible one. Some are quite nice in the house. People laugh, agree, play games, do silly stuff, and have genuine moments. I just don't like every little gesture to be interpreted as negative and calculating. I know this kind of game lends itself to that type of thinking, but I think we are all starting to act a little too much like Josh on a Gerry rant! That's all I gotta say--for now.

Wcv63

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Minny: I kind of equate it what he is doing to water torture. A slow drip that will eventually drive her mad. Watch him and how he works.

Wcv63

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon I do understand what you are saying. It is human nature to base tolerance and intolerance toward others' behaviors based on one's personal feelings. I tend to be more tolerant of those I like and less tolerant of those that have done things to get my dander up.

It's not a fair way to view things, I admit. I recognize this flaw in myself but can't say I've had much success in reigning it in.

Minnyace01

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63 - how? I'm just not seeing it and I'm not saying that I'm right. Just tell me what he's doing that makes you think that so I can watch for it.

Wcv63

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:52 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's the classic pull her close, push her away. Be nice, be cold. Keep her off kilter and play with her emotions.

Also Minny I have found several of his remarks about women to be disturbing. I'm not saying he's a mysogynist....but he does seem do think no woman is his equal.

Oregonfire

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 01:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That's okay, Wcv--your comments always strike me as even-handed. I, however, can be on a short fuse on occasion! I think I've done a pretty good job of not freaking out too badly, considering the hundreds of posts I read on a daily basis that go against my position.

That's something we all have in common--reading hundreds of posts a day about a game show?!

Azriel

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 06:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv, exactly! I see that, too. I just scratch my head when anyone here starts talking about their relationship like it's some sweet love thang. How the heck do they see that? All I see is manipulation and Roddy shrouds his disrespect for Chiara and women ,in general, with jokes.

Maryann

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 06:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I feel that Roddy has issues with women as well and I recognized what he was doing to Chiara when he said that she couldn't stay all night every night in the HOH room.If she gets HOH I hope that she tells him the same thing.
Guys like Roddy, who have,or appear to have issues with treating women as equals are always annoying to me.
One of the things I love about Will is that he's always been respectful of Shannon in the interviews about her.

Juju2bigdog

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 06:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Y'all may have noticed I almost never post in BB threads. But while we are on the subject, I too cannot see how anybody can say Roddy and Chiara are having a romantic relationship. Well, maybe Chiara is, but Roddy's disdain for her and all women comes through loud and clear. He gives me the willies.

Webkitty

Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 07:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Juju (and others) about Roddy and Chia.
~scratching head along with Azriel~

I also agree with Maryann about Will's respect for Shannon regarding their relationship.