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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: Archive Two: Question for the girls.....?: Archive through July 25, 2002

Oregonfire

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay girls, we've been rakin' the female HGs over the coals enough for the moment. What do you think of the guys? Who would you date or find attractive or whatnot?

We have:
Eric
Gerry
Jason
Josh
Marc
Roddy

Hey...I'm just listing them...I didn't pick them out! I think the guys have a better litter to pick from, IMO. When you look at the choices together, it's like "Bachelorettes in Alaska" all over again.

Ladytex

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry, I'd have to pass. I wouldn't date any of them. I'd love to have Marcellas as a friend, but other than that ......

Eric - not enough personality, and not all that
Gerry - blech
Jason - much too young (and not just in age)
Josh - blech
Marcellas - friend
Roddy - too manipulative

Saphyre

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Of all of them, Eric, Roddy and Jason are the ones that I find attractive physically. Of those three, Jason is the only one that I would want to date. He just has this overall sweetness about him and seems like he would care about the person he was with and not just himself. Eric and Roddy seem to have an ego thing going and its a turn off seeing them use their looks to try to help themselves win. Josh, well I can't get past his personality to even notice his looks. Marc seems like he would be a great friend to hang around with and Gerry, well I really don't know. I think Gerry is out of his element in the house with everyone younger and possibly if he was in a group of his peers, we might see him in a completely different light.

Luckhunter777

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For any kind of debate or intellectual discussion I would have to say Roddy - but he is way too full of himself and manipulative for any kind of relationship.

Eric seems like he would be fun to go out with in a group or have a 'guy friend' and I feel he may be being a but more of a 'dog', in terms of the way he speaks, in the house trying to compete with Roddy. May be worth getting to know a bit better.

Jason seems ideal - nice guy but I would have major problems with the religion thing. He is respectful and courteous not to mention great looking - but of course all of them have that.

Ark

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not attracted to any of the guys either. I would also love to have Marcellas for a friend. I think Jason is cute but I'd adopt him before I dated him. Eric, Gerry, Josh & Roddy do nothing for me, except irratate me. The only one out of those four that I think is semi good looking is Roddy but his personality ruins that.

Jane_Bond

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellas is the only one of the men who shows any of what I might find attractive: kindness, good looks, intelligence, humour, style, streetwise.

The rest of these guys are just dumb as pins! Even Roddy's supposed intelligence - not really all that smart, just **smarter than** the dim bulbs in that house. (No Roddy, we are not in fact in the middle of the galaxy - the Earth is on the far, trailing edge of a spiral arm.)

Kristakat

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think you would have to take these people out of this house before I can even consider picking one to date. In these types of compounds, you see all their flaws, and you see the worst in them. Sure it may give you insight as to what they're like on the outside, but under the circumstances, I don't see how you can compare dating someone to participating a game with a prize of $500,000.

That being said, I think Roddy and Eric are attractive, but in the house, and playing the game, I don't like who they are. Jason seems very sweet and caring, but we really haven't seen all his sides. I think outside of the house he would be much more outgoing and fun to be around.

And of course, Marc would be my best friend! I love a guy with a sense of humour that can keep me laughing... too bad he's gay though.

Earthmother

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Physically..none of them. geeeeze Jason looks like my kid. I'd be friends with Marcellus and Gerry (I don't care what anyone says I think outside this house Gerry is probably a really great guy and since I teach Middle School also I think we would have a lot in common.)

Bbfanatic

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
when the show started, i thought Roddy would be the one i would like. I am a huge hockey fan and i noticed all of the hockey jerseys. But, now i do not have any i would be able to date. Marcellas would be great for a friend. Jason is cute as a button. Even though i have religious beliefs, Jason is far beyond me. Josh YUCK! Eric does nothing for me and I have trouble remembering his name. Gerry would be fun to chat with.

Jan

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes jane, Roddy is what I like to call a smatterist..he knows a little bit about a lot of things and, therefore, comes across as very smart. My best friend is like that. Roddy, himself, said it best..something about in LA if you know 5% about something you are considered an expert. If you've read a book about something , you are considered an expert.

My friend tells me that she is always astounded that people are constantly telling her how smart she is, when really she knows very little about the topic over which they are so impressed!

Chelle

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a huged dislike of Josh.

Gerry is okay. He has made mistakes in the house. I don't think that I would be friends with him but don't really dislike him either.

Eric is cute, but he seems to have a bit of the dumb jock persona.

Roddy is cute and intelligent, but he is way too manipulative to trust as a boyfriend.

Jason is a great catch. He is too young for me, but I wouldn't be disappointed to see my daughter with someone like him when she's old enough.

Marcellas is the biggest disappointment as of late. I really liked him at first and could totally see myself hanging out with him. Now I think that he and Amy are worse than the others. Marcellas is sooooo caddy. I would worry that everytime I changed a hairdo he would be off saying bad things behind my back to all my friends.

Oregonfire

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't be shocked. I am not delicate.

Eric: Good for an occasional rendezvous after closing time at the bar, and for some help on moving day.

Gerry: Ugh. I'm sure he's a nice man, but physically repellant to me.

Jason: Good for corrupting and toying with.

Josh: Very sensitive, probably a very good boyfriend. But he's little, and I'd look like a monster standing next to him.

Marc: A great, loyal friend. Would be a great roommate.

Roddy: How can I say this without getting moded? He's been a bad boy and needs to be punished.

Zachsmom

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh - No! I have read from Furry that he is a great friend..that is about the only thing I can possibly say a maybe on(having him as a friend)..even then I'd only be friends with Josh because he has such loyal friends as Furry..his only remeeming quality..

Gerry- I'd love to have coffee and chat with him a while...I could be his friend..he doesn't bother me much..

Eric- I've had roomates like him..he'd be a hoot to party with..and fun to just hang with..but I don't feel any chemistry with him..

Jason- umm.. I am the woman his mother warned him about..He's absolutely adorable and cute as a bug in a rug..I would love to just hang out and be his friend..

Marcellas- What a hottie..but as the saying goes..all the good ones are either gay or married..I'd love to hang out with him and Amy..THAT would be a good time..

Roddy- This is the type of man that I typically date.. I think he is cute,funny and I do believe that he has some morals and high standards.. I think he'd be loyal.. some of his actions in the game have made me cringe..but on the whole..hubba hubba..

Sobaditsgood

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric - It befuddles me when people refer to Eric as being attractive. Looks - he ain't got none I find appealing. His face is flatly unattractive, somehow caveman-ish to me. This *might* be mitigatable if he had a lot going on upstairs and was funny, interested/interesting, etc. Those traits way more than counterbalance physical stuff in my personal-preference world. His body I recognize as being stereotypically "hot" but it does absolutely nothing for me, utterly cancelled out by the overall effect of (for lack of better word) vacancy.

Gerry - If he would stop trying so hard to prove how hip and 'down' he is, esp with what he clearly believes is cutting-edge gayspeak when he's with Marcellas (I cringed when he told Marc that his nom speech was "very butch") he might actually be an okay guy and yes, I'll say it at the risk of being set upon with gasps and a straitjacket - appealing. For starters, and this is a very big deal for me in terms of what I find attractive, I think he's probably the most *thoughtful* of the male group, thoughtful meaning 'thinks about things other than himself' and is genuinely interested in the larger world... not 'thoughtful' meaning 'thinks about women in a certain way.'I'm talking about just world viewpoint. In that way he seems deeper than pretty much anyone in the house, which I do find appealing. Furthermore, personally I don't find his physical appearance to be a turn-off but I tend to find older men more attractive. (Note: I don't think Gerry's in the least 'old' but I mean 'older' as opposed to the 20-somethings perpetually cast on this show) He's not my *first* preference in the looks department out in the real world but on the other hand the looks thing would be no problem at all if his more obnoxious *personality* traits could magically fade into the background and let the appealing ones come to the fore and stay there. I agree with someone else that in another atmosphere (read: with a group of ADULTS, behaviorly) Gerry might be perceived totally differently, i.e. better.

Jason - A total cutiepie and I could look at him for a very long time quite happily. However, he seems too much still a boy for me to think of him as good potential date/lover/partner/etc. It's not the virgin thing, it's more a general vibe of someone who has been quite sheltered and/or thoroughly steeped in a rather narrow viewpoint of the world. This is someone who despite his surface likeability may in fact be quite narrow-minded. Just a bit of a hunch on that. But otherwise he's just too young all the way around - not an age thing, an experience/perspective thing. He's a cutie, but I'll just look, thanks, not interested in taking him home today. :)

Josh - Unappealing physically. I see glimpses of a genuinely funny/sharp sense of humor now and then but it's so obscured by his various personal issues that he comes off looking like a jacka**. Not good mate partner in any sense until he loses a LOT of the insecurity he's compensating for with all the BS. Also his voice drives me up a wall. The voice is important to me. (I probably place almost as much importance on it as some do looks!)

Marc - I had started to like him but seeing how he professes to be all about integrity re: Gerry yet can allow Gerry to walk around thinking they're pals (Gerry in the DR saying 'I think I've found a friend for life') yet meanwhile say some very, very bitchy/catty and insulting things to Amy about Gerry behind his back... for the game or not, it diminishes him in my eyes and therefore I wouldn't want a guy like this as a friend. I know that's not the popular opinion on the boards - lots of you other women seem to think Marcellas would be a scream to have as a pal. I don't. Too high maintenance and too ready with the catty comments behind someone's back, if he thinks it'll make him appear witty.

Roddy - Sigh. I thought he had potential but the man has dashed every hope I had. I know much of his machinations (w/ Chiara, e.g.) are for the benefit of the game, but I'm going with my gut feeling response to most of these folks... by now I'm convinced all of them have let slip enough of their REAL personality for us to get a glimpse of who they are. And I don't think I like who Roddy is. He has a superiority complex to rival if not surpass Gerry's, only Roddy's is a different variety. Gerry's manifests as a thing of "I'm wiser, let me teach you some things for your own benefit..." which is annoying but (to me) at least doesn't sound condescending. Roddy, by contrast, seems to talk down to people sometimes, sounding condescending. Plus, he's not even all that smart, at this point he seems to be one of those people who knows a little about a lot of subjects rather than a lot about any one subject. (Except maybe hockey?!) Granted, it's not like anybody gets a real chance to demonstrate their depth/brains in this game, so maybe he really is a genius. Sadly, even if that turned out to be the case, some of his actions in the house have permanently turned me off, I'm afraid.

I guess I have to agree with some of the rest of you... there's no man in the house as-is that I find especially appealing, not even for sheer fantasy material, much less whimsical musing about 'would he make a good partner?'

I wish just once they'd fill the house with HG's who are all undeniably adult (this has more to do with experience, life circumstance, attitude etc than actual age) and with looks/personalities that tend more toward 'interesting' than 'hollywood cattle call.' Yes, I know I'm whistling in the wind. Oh well. You asked. :)

Zachsmom

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon: Roddy: How can I say this without getting moded? He's been a bad boy and needs to be punished.

I'll volunteer to punish him !!!!!!!

Oregonfire

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Better take your stilettos, girlfriend.

Minnyace01

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom - the question on Roddy is, is he really being sincere with Chiara or is he just dragging her along for his benifit? If he is just using her, he goes from being a personal favorite to being a first class jack a##, that is sterotypical of a lot of men.

Abigail1970

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Defintely Roddy!!! He is cute and smart and yes, manipulative but I am thinking that is mostly strategy!
Eric is cute in a big oaf kind of way but I haven't heard him converse enough to know if we'd be able to find anything to talk about.
Josh would be fun to have as a friend cuz he's funny but he is way too furry!!
Gerry would be too old for me! So, N/A
Marcellus - N/A

Crossfire

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That was an excellent report sobaditsgood. Very well considered, and effectively communicated.

Iceprincess

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
First I have to preface this with: I don't know if I am seeing their true selves come through during the "game" therefore I am basing my opinion based on what they portray in the house. Also besides the fact that most of them would not even give me the time of day for a cup of coffee.

Josh: No way No how, No offense Merritt. The way he is acting reminds me of my Exhusband sex, sex, and stupid talk.

Roddy: I had such high hopes for him and uuuuuhhhhhhhh....YUCK YUCK talk about a control freak. Maybe to play a game of chess with and pick his brain about his beliefs but other then that..UHHHH

Eric: NOPE NOPE NOPE, not only NOPE but NOPE. He is too self centered, too high maintence, too MUCH!

Jason: What a cutie. Naive as all heck but cute none the less.

Marcellas: Oh how I would love to sit and have a gabfest with him.

Gerry: Father figure, I wouldn't even have a cup of coffee with him because I would have to shoot him everytime he tried to explain something. He needs to give people the benefit of the doubt. He is not the know-it-all teacher.

Sobaditsgood

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Minny - I think Roddy's using Chiara for the game, though I believe he is genuinely attracted to her. I think he intends to wait until they're outside the house to figure out if there's anything worth pursuing... everything else is for the game. Just my thoughts on it. Personally I'm not overly bothered by his manipulation of Chiara, in fact I think it's a sign he's playing the game 'well'.

Also I know everyone's mileage may vary but in my life there have been many more *women* who turned out to be jacka##es and otherwise viciously manipulative than men, so I won't be jumping on the 'most men are ultimately dogs' bandwagon if one comes around in this thread...! :) It sounds like a cliche, but basically with men OR women I've learned to trust my gut.. and my gut with Roddy feels a bit queasy.

Sobaditsgood

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for the kind words Crossfire, and for elevating my modest little 'as I see it' spiel to the level of full-fledged 'report.' Gosh, you should see me when I *really* get on a deconstructivist tangent...! :) Thanks again.

Zachsmom

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Oregon..:)

Minnyace.. I think Roddy genuinely likes Chiara as a person(no comment on that)..I think he planned on "using" her (not sexually but game wise) and now he is seeing her more as a person than just a pawn in a game.I think he is now seeing perhaps those actions were wrong and he really doesn't know how to deal with that..I don't think he wants to hurt her..but doesn't know how to go about "breaking up" with her..

Guinevere

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is the only one I find attractive (even though I suspect he's a jerk). Jason is okay but so bland, personality-wise, from what I can see. Eric looks like a troll doll. Marcellus is nice looking but I can't really evaluate him separately from his, uh, flamboyant personality.

Gerry or Josh, no, no, no.

As for Roddy's personality making him unattractive, it hasn't reached that level for me, yet (though it probably will...). I would actually prefer to think he's playing Chiara; that would mean he's playing the game well and also that at least some of the crap he spews is just bs. It would also mean, hopefully, that IRL he would know better than to get mixed up so quickly with such a neurotic loser.

Nicoledfw

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Eric: He looks like my boyfriend's nephew, and he's 4 years old..but they could seriously pass as identical father/son. He is cute..but just in a little boy kinda' way. My dad would never take him seriously.

Josh-FREAKS ME THE F*&% OUT!
Roddy...ok he was cute, key word..was, until I watched him more..big head..huge!
Jason: Ahhh....refreshing he is, very cute, reminds me of Aidan from Sex in the City..love his smile
Marcellus..well he's gay so that's that. But he would be soooo much fun to hang out with and bring to girl's night.
Gerry: tooo philisophical and trie's to be too "wise" about everything.
I don't think I left anyone out did i?