What determines who you like or dislike?
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What determines who you like or dislike?
Strkaholic | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 06:54 pm     I know the subject is misleading, but I did not know how to word it. Here is my question? If you are not a live feed watcher..do you base who you like or dislike based on how the live feed's are reported...example...someone saying...such and such is mad about such and such...etc..etc.. I ask this because I do watch the live feeds and notice that sometimes the viewers see it differently than I do..they will report a conversation in a different light than it actually occurred..not what was said, but the inflection behind it. An example is the conversation between Danielle and Chiara where Danielle was telling her why she voted for Tonya. In the reports, it sounds as if Chiara is mad at Danielle, when in fact, that is not the case at all and Danielle never acted like she was on the defensive. Another is when Chiara and Roddy were talking on the hammock..Chiara was never mad at Roddy and when Roddy suggested they go inside, she said she wanted to stay, but he did not have to stay with her. There is no criticism involved in what I am asking..I am just simply curious if those who don't watch the live feeds and simply read the reports go by the inflection implied by the poster. It is inevitable that if the poster does not like a particular HG, they will view all actions by that HG in a bad light and the same if the like them... It's only human nature. I simply became curious because I don't see what everyone dislikes about the different HG's with the exception of one and find it interesting. Lord..I know this is rambling and probably makes no sense whatsoever, I just don't know how to word or ask the question any differently. I apologize in advance if I offend anyone. Thanks! |
Curlyq | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:10 pm     Well, I've both watched the feeds and relied on the posts at different times and I agree that often the posts can give you the wrong idea. Most of the time, though, I don't think it's because of the poster's slanted viewpoint. I think it's because when you're trying to get everything typed so quickly you don't have time to stop and look at the faces and report their tone of voice or body language. The few times I tried live feed posting it was all I could do to just get the gist of what was said. Still some people are faster typists and gifted at reporting the little details, which is why I love it when several people post at the same time. After reading 4 posts of the same scene you can usually get a much clearer picture of how it actually went. |
Sheila494 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:13 pm     i base my opinions on what i see on television. although i do read the posts. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:21 pm     I base my opinions on what I read, what I see and how I feel about what I see and read. LOL....How's that for convoluting the issue? Mostly it is based on my own feelings toward a hg. If I am not fond of someone it is a lot easier for me to to assign a negative connotation to something which may not be negative at all. I believe we all have these tendencies. To forgive or be more tolerant of those we like and to be more hardline towards those we don't like so much. |
Pinky780 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:27 pm     I don't have the live feeds. I base my opinion on the hundreds of different sites' posts that I read and the interviews in the Diary Room (teleast). I put no stock in the actual show (it's contrived), except for the way Marc yelled at Tonya. Oh, none of you all did that one justice! |
Wcv63 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:29 pm     Pinky the cameras were outside when Marc went in to confront Tonya. We could only hear...not see the action. Well at least on the Feed I was viewing at the time. Nobody wants to change feeds mid-fight in case you miss any of it! |
Crossfire | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:31 pm     Pinky, what do you mean about the interviews in the diary room (teleast)? |
Wcv63 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 07:59 pm     I'm sure she meant "telecast". That finger just went up instead of down. |
Pinky780 | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:03 pm     Either that, or I was posting "in tongues". (It is close to Sunday!) |
Crossfire | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:18 pm     OH, OK, I thought she might have one of those giant satellite setups that can snag the signals or something and could see un-broadcast DR entries. Wouldn't that be sweet. Something that would actually make the feeds worth paying for IMO. |
Fruitbat | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 08:31 pm     Pinky...LOL! I have been too busy to read much of the board this year and tonight I am running into great stuff. I tend to like those that play the game and play hard. Will last year and Josh and Daniella this time. I don't find their lying and insincerity a turn off at all. I watch to see the strategy and manipulation. Joshs fake tears were great and Dani is really going to town. Good stuff. I am put off by too much jawbone about integrity and "it is not worth the money if you have to back stap" rap. Why apply for a game show of this nature if you are not willing to play to win? That is the fun of it all for me. |
Spunky | Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 10:13 pm     As I said in the beginning of BB3 I'll watch just to see how bad this game will become, since we've come so far from BB1 already (and not in a positive way). I'm glad that I can't feel any preference for any of these people and this way I can easily distance myself from them and the show altogether. It's just fun to see what everyone here makes of it and the speculations which are very interesting. |
Jake | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:50 am     I scan the live feeds to get a idea of what's happening. When something catches my eye (or interest) I read a little more thoroughly and compare what different posters are saying about the same action/event/conversation. Sometimes this is the best area to get a general, everyday picture of the houseguests' personalities. I try to ignore any inferences made by posters here. I'm looking mainly for activity and conversation. I also scan the general discussion area. If anything has happened in live feeds, there's generally a frenzy of postings there. I can see in a glance what the "hot" topics are for the day or hour and therefore get a feel of what's happening in the house that is of significance. I also watch the show with the postings in mind. From the show, I watch facial expressions, body language and eyes. I know the show is edited, and I'm aware that there are things that happen before and/or after many things that are televised. Therefore, I take the show with a grain of salt. But it is very useful for the physical clues. So basically, I absorb all areas, then come to my own conclusions regarding the houseguests. BTW... In answer to what I THOUGHT the thread was about: I don't like meanness against another person and that's something that figures highly in who I like or dislike on the show. I know it's a game, but games can be played in many ways! |
Jake | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:53 am     PS: I notice that there are a LOT more complaints from the live-feeders about the feeds going to FOTH, or all 4 cameras on one scene. I'm seeing more complaints this year than I can remember being in either of the first two years. This makes the live feeds somewhat useless because we're NOT watching them 24/7 and therefore, not as much information can be gathered from the "actual" houseguest behavoir. Bad CBS! |
Hosewater | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 01:00 am     I compare all houseguests to the one true original houseguest: Chicken George. I base my likes and dislikes on how these pretenders measure up to the king of all Big Brothers. Chicken George Lives! Buy Hose Water Today! |
Dedonjo | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 01:16 am     I echo Jake - I do exactly the same. (thanks for doing all the typing Jake!) I dislike deliberate cruelty, and love intelligence and cunning and the ability to remember that it's all a game. Will was the best, he was smart, sly, and never lost the ability to laugh at himself as well. |
Adorable67 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 12:25 pm     I'll kick in with Jake too. He did some most of what I think too! Thanks Jake for putting my thoughts in to your words...haha I think CBS has gone extremely worst in their selection.....from Jamie and Curtis to Amy & Rod! Ugh! It would be nice to have more real people but that's a whole 'nother tread! |
Kappy | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 06:16 pm     Pinky ~ I base my thoughts about the hg's from both watching the live feeds (granted not ALL the feeds) and from watching the show. To me, Tonya was out of line by calling Amy an alchy as Amy poured herself a glass of wine. Amy then walked outside and Tonya, without even knowing what was being said, assumed that Amy was talking about her (she wasn't) and went outside to confront her about how she, Tonya, would at least say things to her face. Amy was trying to ignore her because Amy hadn't been talking about her to begin with. Tony wouldn't accept that because in Tonya's mind, only TONYA can be right AND Tonya wanted a fight, period. So Tonya continued in Amy's face and Marcellas came to Amy's defense saying she didn't say anything. Tonya refused to accept the reality of that and then got in Marcellas's face to make a point that she is a woman who can street fight (big surprise). Tonya continued this scene merely as a way to try to make both Amy and Marcellas look bad rather then apologize for going off on Amy with no reason to begin with. Up until then, I did not have very strong feelings about Tonya but now? She is just the Boobs from Vegas as far as I am concerned. And mind you, Tonya is the one who thinks Chi is the most wonderful person ~ a person, ahem, who got a drunk driving ticket just weeks before. Drunk driving KILLS other people. Who is Amy going to kill by having a glass of wine while confined to a house? So while Amy is no saint by any means, I sure as h--- wouldn't side with the Boobs from Vegas after what I saw and heard. |
Jake | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:24 am     *Curtsies to Dedonjo and Adorable* Um, I'm a "she" but it was my pleasure to type your words. Being psycho.. er, psychic is one of my talents! *grin* |
Riviere | Saturday, July 27, 2002 - 12:52 am     THANKS for helping me catch up!!! I've been away visiting my ill Granny and missed BB entirely so between watching tapes and reading posts here it's been like an overdose of info to sort out & I still have 3 episodes to watch before the next live show.. I'm so glad I saved my $ because I haven't seen live feeds since BB1, seems CBS has been charging $ for half the feeds (baaad CBS indeed).. After seeing 3 hours of tape I decided BB made some very stereotypical choices (duh what a shock) but most of these players have earned my dislike on their own and the feed posters really underline how conniving they are. This is where CBS promos were true, but they already booted the 1 gal I liked best and when they boot Gerry it'll be another genX fest. Feed posters could never sugarcoat the crap going on in that house, nor do I think anyone could make the players look worse than they act on tv! Gives me a headache to know 1 of these fools will get $ because none seems to have much of a fan base so far, do you think? |
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