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Karuuna

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter - thank you for sharing your story. No need to apologize, I think you showed great courage in offering it. It's real stories of real people that help transform our understanding.

Calamity

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Before anyone gets too upset...putting aside the physical discomfort and people's differences in tolerance for pain, I think we should keep in mind that there is a big difference between those women who suffer such extreme symptoms that it interferes with their ability to cope or function with everyday life and those women who use "that time of the month" as an excuse to unleash their inner, let's say, assertiveness. I sympathize with people who have serious complications but I neither like being made an innocent target of someone's bad mood swings nor do I welcome the rap such behavior lays on women in general as unstable and unable to control their own behavior.

Marcellasfan

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well said Calamity. You're my hero.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Abigail..from day 1 (or 5) I have seen nothing but a catty snotty possessive spoiled little girl in Chiara..her behavior hasn't changed..this is just my opinion..If she suffers from PMS and takes medication..good for her..I hope it helps..I think anyone who suffers from any physical disorder should seek treatment and I don't think they are weak and unstable for it (I myself suffered from PPD after my son was born)..my opinion is that I haven't seen any change in her just more of the real her is coming through..and I don't think it has anything to do with her PMS..I have just been more aware of what is finally coming to the surface..

Snee

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
on a lighter note: i like the name snoodle.

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thank goodness there is finally something we can finally take to help ease the effects, when I was young all we had was midol for the cramps but no one helped with the emotional issues. We are an emerging and growing society and no one should have to JUST RIDE IT OUT AND COPE WITH IT if there is something that can help them. Do you just ride out a migraine headache? I don't know about the rest of you but there is no reason to suffer if you don't have to and unless you have walked in the shoes of someone who really suffers from this then you need to move on to another topic because you are making some people, who may suffer greatly and can't help it, feel bad. Lucky for you if you don't suffer from this, but shame on you if can't have compassion for those who do. When I am angry I unleash it and I don't have to have PMS to do so, but I seem to have less control over the degree and less reason for the anger when I do have it.

Deadzone

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellasfan: Walk a mile in my shoes. Overpopulation would be totally erased if men had children. First, after one year of having monthly cycles they would all opt for hysterectomy's. They would never make it to child birth or menopause.

Marcellasfan

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Deadzone, I get the impression you think I'm a man? I'm a woman...just clarifying

Earthmother

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
By the way I have found more often than not when a woman has a legitimate gripe and has the guts to tell you so, what is the first thing that most men say?.."It must be that time of the month." Personally I think men shrink away from the truth and use this as a excuse to act like jerks and spray us with unwanted testosterone...

Rolandcat

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember Chiara telling either Lisa or Tonya on the live feeds (real early in the show)that she takes the pills two weeks before her period because she has PMDD and goes crazy. She said you would not want to be around me if I did not have the pills.(paraphrasing)

Just to clarify the reason from her mouth of why she is taking the pills.

Deadzone

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marcellasfan: You're right I thought you were a man, but it just goes to show you. Even other women can't understand things that they personally don't experience. Walk a mile in my shoes applies to anyone. It's pretty much like telling someone at a wake that you know how they feel. I don't care how many people you may have lost, you will never know how they feel.

Twiggyish

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
All this might explain Chiara's behavior. I do feel sorry for her. I don't think she realized going into the house the toll it would take on her emotions.
I initially didn't like Chiara, but I'm going to rethink my previous opinion of her. I don't understand some of her actions, but it could be her age vs. my age.

Wcv63

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Earthmother I agree with that sentiment. I for one don't feel as if having emotions is something I need to apologize for. I do apologize if I'm feeling irritable and that state of being isn't always brought on by PMS (more than likely it is a result of insomnia, different topic, different story).

I would like to also point out once again that men are not immune from mood swings, irritability etc. It is not "women" who suffer from PMS and mood swings that have brought a stigma to the menstrual cycle. It is "people" who want to dismiss certain emotions as being "unreasonable and brought on by PMS" that have created that stigma.

Women who suffer from hormonal inbalances or mood swings don't need to get a grip. People need to be educated.

Jojobee

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
prozac(serafem) has a very long half-life of 14 days......so if chiara is taking the pills for two weeks it will stay in her system for the following 2 weeks....

Snee

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
rolandcat, it really seems weird to me about only taking the pills two weeks before her period because from what doctors have told me about the drug it just isn't an off and on kind of thing. (i've done my own research too from when i was on it. don't want to be on anything i don't know about!) oh well, different docs, different treatments.

Max

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
< Peeking in to see if this subject has been beaten to death yet. Doesn't look like it! >

Car54

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey. I have about the worst PMS there is. I have it right now. Around here, they call it UMS...(UGLY Mood Swings).

AND I take prozac.

So watch it.

Buttercup

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter, I appreciate you sharing your story. Hopefully it opened some people's eyes, or at least challenged their thinking :)

Car, I am getting the heck out of here

Katrina

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
We women may have monthly hormonal cycles, but men have daily hormonal cycles -- which might just explain all of their irrational behavior!

Twiggyish

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Katrina!

Deadzone

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Let's take away VIAGRA. I mean isn't that just a natural occurence in nature.

Delilah

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Delilah runs from the room screaming "No I will not argue with anyone!! We are supposed to be enjoying ourselves on this board!" Chill out peeps

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Earthmother

Tuesday, July 23, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wcv63 well said...

Manicpanic

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 07:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Clearly this has been more than beaten to to death, but what the heck-I'll add my two cents-

1) I've said it before, I'll say it again, I am bipolar. I take two-count 'em two antidepressants for debilitating depression. I have nothing against anyone who feels the need to get help with their mood. Antidepressants do nothing to a "normal" functioning brain. If you aren't depressed or panicky or ocd the drugs do nothing for you at all.

2) Prozac or Sarafem as its called when prescribed for pmdd, can be used intermittently because of its long half life.

3) Nevertheless, the way Chiapet made the comment about her secret lover's wife being bipolar and she takes one of the same medications prescribed to bipolars kinda makes her a hypocrite to me. She can judge one person's mood swings as a reason to cheat with their sig. other, but mentions her own mood swings as a fact of life.Whatever.

Why do I even care about this show? Do I care? I don't even know that.

Twiggyish

Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 08:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good point on #3!! She did make that comment about Roger's wife being bipolar.

Snee

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 12:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
hehe, manicpanic..i can tell you're bi-polar but not from you saying so or the symptomatic reasons; you can casually refer to half-lives!

Costacat

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't disrespect Chia for taking drugs, especially if she really DOES have PMDD. What I do disrespect is that she "milks" it for all it's worth. PMS doesn't last for a whole month, and really doesn't usually last for two weeks (some more severe cases, do, I know). But I feel strongly that Chia is using PMS as an excuse for acting like a spoiled brat.

Also, do you really think TPTB (Shapiro, et al) should've put her on the show if she was so unstable? I don't; I think they should've checked their screeners. Looking at her history and her actions, I mean...

Minnyace01

Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 01:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire - I'm going to leave this one up to you!