Can we get a little pride and dignity for Lisa and Chiara?
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Can we get a little pride and dignity for Lisa and Chiara?
Crazyintexas | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 01:27 pm     Example: "Lisa talking about how much she wants wine. Eric says not to worry, Roddy will make sure she gets the bottle of wine “in there” (HOH I think). She can go off and drink the whole thing as long as “you come back in and see us both later” he laughs." I would get evicted the first week because there is no way I would put up with those losers talking to me that way! ...and don't even get me started on the butt slapping Josh! |
Nicoledfw | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:05 pm     I agree completely! Josh is awful and those 2 guys are your average <>! |
Inkydinkyspider | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:09 pm     What about sharing that wine!!! Wasn't that the complaint about Amy....there are a lot of double standards in this house... |
Crazyintexas | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:19 pm     Well said, Nicoledfw!!!! LOL |
Sam222 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:20 pm     Just to clarify, the comment was made to Danielle, who has talked a lot about wanting some wine, it was just said as a joke |
Crazyintexas | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:24 pm     oh....well...nevermind! |
Earthmother | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:47 pm     If they don't have any pride and dignity in themselves there's no way we can give it to them. LOL |
Ryanc2002 | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:49 pm     It's amazing how we rant and rave based on misinformation and assumptions. And for once, Earthmother, I agree with you. |
Crazyintexas | Friday, July 26, 2002 - 02:55 pm     Ryanc2002 My "misinformation" was based on a live feed post I read posted by Jogging02 on this site. I "assumed" nothing. |
Cute1073 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 12:52 am     crazyintexas I said this in another thread but i'll say it again, I notice that some (probably all) of the live feed posters have biases of their own and will often post in a biased way (i'm sure i'm just as guilty) Be wary of what you read in the posts because things happen fast and sometimes you don't get to write the whole picture, just your impression and that can be tainted by assumptions and biases. |
Spygirl | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:08 am     Well, duh. No offense, Cute, but of course we are all tainted by our own biases. It is not possible to report something without filtering it through our own perceptions, since what we are reporting is our own perception of a conversation or event! That is why it is so important that there are multiple LFP at a time. First, we have more than one feed (okay, that is contingent on A.S.'s mood..hehe), but second, we are all trying to get what we think is happening. Having more people reporting gives different views. Yes, every single LFP is biased. There is absolutely nothing that can be done about it. The exchange above is still based on speculation and people's perceptions of the conversation. "It was said as a joke" is completely up to the person who heard it to decide whether that is "true" or not. There is a debate still going about whether a series of comments Roddy made to Chiara about how he expects the women he dates to act was actually said as a joke or seriously. You could line up 40 people in here who heard that conversation, and I guarantee that half will get pissed off and say it was absolutely a joke and the other half will pitch a fit and say he was completely serious. Just goes with the territory, I guess... |
Cute1073 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 02:19 am     um...yeah...you just reaffirmed my point crazyintexas was pointing out that the information they got was from livefeed posts...all I was saying was just a reminder...I wasn't complaining about the bias, I am well aware it exists that is why I have the live feeds...i was just reminding crazy not to take word for word as fact. I am continually surprised at reading the posts and then comparing it to my own inturrpretation of what happened. Spygirl, i'm not quite sure what you were trying to tell me there. Like I said, I wasn't saying this as 'new news' or as a complaint. Just a reminder to keep things in perspective, something I wish everyone would do more often |
Goddessatlaw | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 07:13 am     Men generally won't talk to women this way when a clear line has been drawn in the sand as to how far their jokes or sexual comments may go. I've found most are very respectful and accepting when asked nicely to curb it. Unfortunately, the line drawn by Lisa, Chiara, etc. is somewhere east of Baghdad. Other female houseguests like Amy, who seems to cringe at this kind of banter, have to make a decision whether to roll with it to avoid drawing "negative" attention to themselves. I think Amy has managed pretty well by walking away from or not encouraging the trashier comments. Dani doesn't seem to pay any attention at all, which also seems to work for her. She handled Josh' hiney-handling habits somehow (I didn't see), but apparently he's only slapped her twice and it hasn't been an issue since. The other girls seem to like it and frankly are just as bad, particularly with relation to their comments to Jason. Earthmother's comment about not being able to give them pride and dignity is dead right. You get what you demand. |
Piratesbay | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 07:33 am     Goddessatlaw said "Unfortunately, the line drawn by Lisa, Chiara, etc. is somewhere east of Baghdad." That's a great line. I love that! It works for so many things, even not to do with Lisa, Chiara, and BB3 (not that I have a life outside of BB3...it's so sad...) |
Spygirl | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 08:56 am     I was reaffirming your point, too, Cute I just directed the first part to you so you wouldn't take offense and think I was pionting you out. Sorry for the confusion.  |
Minnyace01 | Sunday, July 28, 2002 - 10:18 am     Spygirl - I also heard the conversation that Roddy had with Chiara on how his girlfriend should act and based upon how I've seen him act around her, I think that he was being sarcastic to her. What was your opinion of it? Also, I think that Roddy, even though he says that he's not, is a little bit jealous of all the attention that Chiara is paying to Jason. |
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