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Archive through September 23, 2002
Eden | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:11 am     I'll believe anything coming from a woman who has NEVER HEARD or SEEN ribs in her adult life (26 yrs old). Sorry, I am still nonplussed by that particular admission on Lisa's part. Cave dweller? |
Wendo | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:21 am     Cave dweller! LOL! I'm sorry but that's just hilarious. |
Oregonfire | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:22 am     Hey, try being friends with someone who thinks that way! It's been a source of irritation that when something bad happens in my life, she says something like "that's because you thought something bad was going to happen, and so it did." Grr. I can attest to the fact that in the past year, bad things happened because I wasn't paying attention and took my eye off the ball, not because I was mulling over the negative possibilities. These things took me completely by surprise, and I didn't expect them to happen at all or "will" them into existence. Another gem is "if you have to struggle to achieve something, then it wasn't meant to be and you're on the wrong path." Uhh, okay. I'll just wait for things to fall into my lap. Thanks for letting me vent; that was seething under the surface. |
Tobor7 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:23 am     Just read today's LF's Back to post again. I think Crossfire got it. Dani is one snake. Roddy is two snakes. ERIC is three snakes. That is why it will blow Dani's mind. That is why she didn't vote him back into the house. Anything else won't matter. Also, when she sees that Eric told Roddy that Lisa was great in bed... boy will she be pissed at him. Eric made it seem like they went all the way. I was shocked that Eric did that. |
Eden | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:36 am     Wendo, making you laugh thrills me! LOL Hard to believe someone living in NYC and LA can be so clueless about "ribs" and, yet, have seen D/J's alliance from week 3, when we know Lisa was more interested in the smell of Eric's skin. |
Seamonkey | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:38 am     I thought somewhere in tonight's live feeds Lisa says that SHE was the second snake? I think I'll go along with those saying that what is mind-blowing to Lisa may not be to others? |
Wendo | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:38 am     Eden, LOL!, and playing with his "thing" under the covers. |
Eden | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:07 am     LMAO, Wendo!!! |
Phillymom | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:45 am     I'm sorry to any Lisa fans, but the girl is bizarre. Wacko. It's a darn good thing she was quiet most of the game, because if she had opened her mouth sooner she would have been gone. I only hope the jury is watching the live feeds and catching some of this nonsense. Of course, Lisa can't reveal who the other snakes are until AFTER the game is over--and she gets a chance to watch the tapes and figure out who the snakes are. As for Dani being the "good" snake, I bet you can find a bunch of ex-houseguests who totally disagree with that assessment. |
Fruitbat | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:08 am     Maybe the mind blowing part is not *who* the snakes are but the fact that the card reader was acurate in her description of behavior or dynamics she was about to experience. Lisa did not know who the snakes were when she entered as she said it was not until Dani used the word snake that she identifed the good snake. There are never many articles on Hg's after the show completes but it will probably come out in an internet chat. Someone is bound to ask her. |
Phillymom | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:20 am     Hmmm ... except that many people would disagree that the prediction was correct, Fruitbat. Many BB watchers and many of the ex-houseguests are unlikely to view Dani as the "good" snake. When you get right down to it, a lot of the ex-houseguests could fit the description of "good" or "bad" snake. So it's just a bunch of nonsense, in my opinion. |
Fruitbat | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:25 am     The reading was a personal one to Lisa and Dani definately was a good snake to her. Whether you believe in this sort of thing or not we have all experienced some kind of 'coinsedence' or moments of anticipating an event before it occurs at some point. |
Costacat | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:32 am     I think that discussing Lisa's beliefs is similar to discussing Jason's Christianity. Lisa believes in the tarot readings she received; why would that make her "wacko" or "bizarre" or "coo coo for coco puffs"? Is Jason's belief in Christ any more "wacko" or "bizarre"? |
Phillymom | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:54 am     Costacat, I don't particularly care what Lisa believes in, as long as it makes sense and doesn't lead to delusional thinking. Jason's Christianity didn't lead him to believe he was some kind of all-knowing master game-player. The point is that Lisa is trying to make her reading and her Tarot card findings "fit" the outcome of the show. Here's a question for you, then--why won't Lisa tell Dani who the bad snakes are until after the show is over? Maybe it's because Lisa hasn't been able to watch the tapes or talk to anyone, and she needs to figure out who the bad snakes are (even though she CLAIMS she knows who they are now). That's my problem with everything that Lisa is saying ... she only says she knew it after the fact. And she can twist the "bad" snake thing to fit any person at all (it could be Roddy, or Chi, or Josh, etc.). The saddest part is (and I'm not being cynical here, I think it's truly sad) that Lisa actually has convinced herself that all this stuff is true. Geez, I'm afraid if she wins she'll blow the money on readings and psychic hotlines and other nonsense. |
Missy2 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:55 am     Lisa is completely Loopy. |
Letmeinthere | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:13 am     The snake on the cards mean wisdom and knowledge, and the ancient symbol of female power. You can find them on the Lovers & 7 of Cups in the tarot deck. Is Lisa Pagan/Wiccan by any chance? |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:27 am     Letmeinthere, I think she might be. (Just a hunch) and I don't think Lisa is loopy. |
Watching2 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:35 am     You would be surprised at the number of Christians (obviously not fundamentalist) who actually look at the charts and Tarot cards. I've actually been really surprised at people I would think wouldn't go near them because of the occult connection who did. I am Christian and have friends who are always getting "words from God" but then when it doesn't happen they say, "Well then it wasn't from God, I guess." When it does happen, they got it from God. I really had to leave a group I was part of when these "predictions" or "words" just got to be too much for me. Still have my faith, I just think we as humans can convince ourselves of just about anything afterwards, no matter what we put our trust in. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:38 am     Right Watching! |
Phillymom | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:40 am     Letmeinthere, thanks for the info. So, according to what you're telling me, that means the other snakes that Lisa is referring to--the bad snakes--have to be female, too? Since the snake is a symbol of female power?? And, yeah, Lisa is loopy. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:44 am     Well I don't dismiss people as loopy, who believe in something different. just my thought. |
Phillymom | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:49 am     Neither do I, Twiggy. And I think you know that's not what we're trying to say. She's not loopy for believing something different ... she's loopy for convincing herself it's all true. She making the facts fit her case. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:51 am     Danielle does the same thing with her prayers, etc.. |
Cas | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:55 am     I´m with Costacat on this. I don´t care if people like the girl they have seen the last few months, whether they think she doesn´t deserve to win because she didn´t play the game the way THEY think she should have or something "tangible" but to change your mind because all of a sudden when she reaches the final she relaxes enough to admit she might have had a tarot card reading with info about three snakes and such. Well I see absolutely no difference between that and having to hear Dani going on about Gods will the last few months. And for those who believe in God surely there has been plenty else to occupy his time this year then worrying about helping out a woman who HAS a home, a stable family, kids in private school with outside activities and hobbies. Because if it´s God´s will that this woman needs 500 thousand dollars to change her living standards when good people are living on the streets, where innocent children are made refugees through bombing of their home/country then I find that more disturbing and delusional then Lisa having a tarot card reading where she thinks the reading predicted this outcome. Some of us need to get a grip. The girl is into tarot cards, big freaking deal. At least she isn´t looking for some all loving superior being to ignore the truely unfortunate to fatten her bank account. btw..I really am sorry if that comes out as Dani bash, I haven´t joined in any Dani bashing and that isn´t my intent. Just the best way I can illustrate how ridiculous it is, imho, to turn on Lisa for something so unimportant and personal, it´s her belief, she´s entitled to it. Oh as as far as not revealing the third snake, well it could be she hasn´t figured it out yet OR it could be that naming the third snake at this point might offend them and she wants their vote. I didn´t need proof that Christ existed and I don´t need proof that Lisa was told about three snakes, happy are those who believe and have not seen and all that................ |
Oregonfire | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:56 am     Hey, if the Tarot reading gave Lisa confidence in herself, maybe being delusional was a good thing. Lisa always seemed self-assured from the very beginning. If she has an innate belief in the goodness of the universe and things turning out her way, maybe that works for her. Not everybody makes logic their god, which of course to a logical person sounds illogical. |
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