Lisad | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:38 am     This has been bothering me for some weeks now. About trash talk - It seemed to be at it's peak for a week or 2 while Marci was still there - right after Roddy was evicted. Jason laid low with the trash talk. He tried to discourage it by saying things like "let's talk about something else", etc. But it was more along the lines of "let's talk about happy things". Dani' statements & behavior imply she didn't fully realize the evicted HGs were able to watch EVERYTHING (feeds, etc.). She seemed to imply she didn't have a clear understanding of how the show works. She even flat out stated many times "I think they aren't recording now", etc. No one in their right mind would have continued bashing knowing it would come back to slap them in their face before the end. Jason watched BB1 & BB2. He was totally knowledgeable about the game. He knew everything was being recorded. Did Jason ever tell Dani her every word will get back to the HGs before the final vote? Did he ever inform her & warn her about this? If not - that isn't very supportive of the Alliance. Then again - great strategy to ensure Jason winning in a D&J final. |
Klm72 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:41 am     Hmmm.... VERY good point (and original! LOL! Something we've lacked here for a few weeks) I like it, I like it very much. Oh Jason you schemer you- you just went up a notch in my book! |
Wiseolowl | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:48 am     Can't recall that Jason specifically warned her but he shared information with all of the HGs, and I would assume Danni as well, as to how it worked. And to Roddi's credit he shared that information too. For someone who was as intuitive as Danielle was supposed to have been as well as her treating the Rule Book as her Bible one can only assume that she either didn't get it or was so wrapped up in playing hard and micromanaging that she didn't put her mind to it. |
Lisad | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:54 am     Yes - Dani should have put great efforts into doing more research before the show. If so - she would have known & I'm sure would have kept her mouth shut & acted accordingly. Jason did share info, but I never heard him say anything specific to the group or Dani in any private convo informing her she's shooting herself in the foot. Interesting Jason.  |
Lauram | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:54 am     I don't think that Jason ever fathomed that Danielle would be so nasty in her Diary room entries. (which really was her downfall IMO) I think that he, too, was shocked by her but he remained loyal. |
Katlady53 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:07 am     Danielle had her chance to rectify the DR situation. She could have said in the Q&A that she didn't always mean everything she said in the DR's. But when asked, she said she meant everything she said in DR. So whether or not Jason told her to chill and watch what she was saying really didn't matter. Danielle *herself* knew the things she said in DR and didn't try to cover her butt at the end by pretending she didn't mean all of it. |
Jagger | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:21 am     Jason did on numerous occasions tell people that everything they say gets put on the net. He also said that some of DR would be seen on the shows. He wasn't aware of what they would all be shown, or as in the case with the first few if they were being sequestered. He wasn't sure if they were going to keep everyone sequestered. They all asked that numerous times, what the other hgs would be doing. Jason did say that last year they were allowed to find out information. So yes Jason did make everyone aware that some of what they were saying could be heard |
Marameko | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:30 am     House guests should have known to be careful about what they said or did not say. Since Jason did remind them about the camers, mics, all the more reason to be careful. I wanted Dani to win, but her mouth did her in. I understand why they voted the way they did. |
Max | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:38 am     Besides, it wasn't up to Jason to "educate" them. If he had sat them down and told them EVERYTHING, they probably wouldn't have listened or believed anyway and some would have used it against him (as in, "Who does he think he is, the producer?"). I think he did a great job of trying to inform them without being overbearing or 'preachy' about it. |
Ptomaine | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:44 am     This has been stated many time. Once more? Dani did know that DR was important and stated that she was concerned about her DR entries in the week prior to Eric's eviction. But Dani also said that she needed an outlet to vent and that was what she used the DR for. Dani was honest about her DR. Lisa stated that she held back in her F2 interviews. Roddy stated that he was playing 2 game, the DR being one of them. Jason said that he was careful about his DR as well.
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Tobor7 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:10 pm     Jason should have pulled Dani ASIDE and told her to cool it with all the trash talk. Explain it was bad strategy. He did it about other things, but not this. Calculated on his part? I say yes. |
Woodpecke® | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:14 pm     I say no. She was hell bent on gossip talk and admitted after the show she would play it the same way. She was proud of her performance. Jason could have talked forever and it wouldn't have done a bit of good. |
Demeter | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:15 pm     Jason warned her many times. It wasn't his responsiblity to hammer it into her head. Danny also watched tapes of the show. |
Whit4you | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:33 pm     Jason made it clear to all of them that all this stuff was being heard on the nets - can't count how many times he'd say something to them like "People on the net are all talking about us talking about them right now" and so on.... the only thing he DIDN'T clear up (or at least I NEVER heard him clear it up) ... many times I heard them talking about a 'net delay' and how if there was any nakidness they'd not show it on the net... he never cleared that one up.. not sure why lol but he never said when I was listening "No there is no net delay" |
Tobor7 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:07 pm     Demeter--- Don't you think "friends" have responsibilities to each other? Or do you think they were never really friends? |
Whit4you | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:18 pm     Tobor - that's what Marc did - try to tell Amy how to act - his bad. Dani's a 30 year old woman - it's not Jason's place to tell her what she should and shouldn't say etc... Jason was in that game to win as well as well he should have been - it's not his place to tell a fellow contestant friend or not - how to beat him in the game. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 06:36 pm     I think Dani thought she'd be like Will and that she could get away with the trashtalk in the DR. As for knowing people watched everything, maybe Dani wasn't paying attention when Chiara's "code" was cracked so quickly by the internet viewers... And I think Jason did repeatedly try to educate other HG, but mostly they didn't want to believe it. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:13 pm     Actually, IIRC, Jason told all of them the first week the feeds were up that the internet would see literally everything. And, I mean he said EVERYTHING. Some chose to keep it in mind. Others forgot about it. It happens. However, I do not think it was his responsibility to remind his fellow HG's (including Dani) that their comments both on the feeds and in the DR could come back and bite them on the butt. As to Dani specifically, I think her total focus on Roddy as a threat threw her off her game with respect to her diary rooms. Before Roddy became such a focus, I don't recall her diary rooms being as "scandalous" as she would say. After he became such a central focus, that, imo, is where her train went off the proverbial tracks. In addition, it didn't help matters having Marcellas in there. (And, I'm not saying that it's Mar's fault for the trash talking.) However, it's apparent that Mar enjoys partaking in critizing others. (Don't know if he's like that in real life, but certainly in the game.) At first, it was funny because they were harmless cracks here and there. And, some of the HG's gave him the material for fodder. Anyway, anyway...on topic, not Jason's responsibility. (And, I do think he tried to curtail it many times.) |
Itsallgood | Friday, September 27, 2002 - 04:53 am     Yes, Jason did tell them about the Live Feeds. I really don't think it sunk in to Danielle tho. Even up to her last night in the house, when she was acting that way, Lisa told her to calm down because she didn't want her children seeing the way she was acting. Lisa knew they were on Live Feeds 24/7 and that anything they did was getting out there. (not saying Lisa did some things that she shouldn't of) And I agree, they were given the information numerous times, they just chose not to listen. JMO |
Pixichik | Friday, September 27, 2002 - 05:12 am     Did Jason even know Dani was being so vituperative in the DR? I know sometimes HGs would go in there several at a time, but weren't they usually alone? While in the house, the HGs only know what happens in the DR if the person chooses to tell them, no? Maybe he thought she was being more discreet. |
Tvgirl | Friday, September 27, 2002 - 06:38 pm     I don't think it's the DR that did Dani in, it is the way she sat in the backyard and trashed the other houseguests the second they left the room. |
Lisad | Friday, September 27, 2002 - 08:06 pm     I agree TVgirl. And that's what I was referring to in my question because I heard more than once Dani saying things to the effect of "the internet probably is off now", etc. |