Archive through September 22, 2002
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Jason played the final HOH so badly....:
Archive through September 22, 2002
Eden | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:59 am     First, Jason allowed himself to be distracted and let go of the key. Then he played the final game with Lisa so badly!!! Was he so unaware of how others perceived him? Was he wildly nervous, knowing his life in the game depended on this showing? How can you explain away Jason's poor play in this final, ultimately important competition? I've seen some posters blame Danielle. I can't make that work for me. Jason was fully aware that he needed to win tonight, regardless of Danielle, to remain viable in the game. I noticed he seemed to choose himself when the real answer was Lisa and Lisa when the answer was himself. If his "innocence" was something of a persona, then he was incredibly unintuitive as to how he was truly perceived by most HGs. Can Jason still be thought a savvy player? |
Whoami | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:10 am     I noticed he was really panicking once he fell behind in correct answers tonight. He was shaking, and fumbling his pictures, and really unsure of his picks. He was a nervous wreck. Poor guy. |
Wcv63 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:13 am     I think he choked. He knew this was vitally important to his staying in the house and let himself get rattled after his first miss. Not only that but he had been talking about how both Lisa and Dani deserved to be in the final two. Perhaps he subconsciously sabotaged himself because of that belief? |
Bbrules4ever | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:24 am     Mmmmmmm...i dont know if its that jason played badly but that lisa played so well!!! surprising, lisa is smarter than i thought. |
Meggieprice | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:29 am     I also think that the last competition played more to the sort of intuitive strength a woman rather than a man would have. Lisa kicked butt in BOTH of her compositions. Jason just did not come up to the bar. |
Cc1976 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:40 am     How do you think Danielle would have done in that competition? Pretty well I think, at least much better than Jason. He really doesn't deserve to be in the final two if he is so out of touch with the other houseguests. |
Krossd | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:55 am     Lisa smarter than poeple thought shows how NOT revealing all about yourself IS the smarter move. (I actually thought Jason would show some 'stuff' once he cleared a certain point in the game.... it never did build past that intial american boy next door surface stuff tho. Lisa was more able to be herself after the initial shock of getting in there, and then getting stuck with being first HOH and how that would play back on her. She correctly fixed that error and in timem over came the effects of making 'enemies' for no valid reason of her own.. fought an uphill battle the entire time she was in there.... I love it when the real powers are not so blantant... it is what I watch for, look for, hope to find, and often do. Lisa is a gem. The female version of Jason, less repressed, sorta. As for these last 2 important comps, which she HAD to win both to advance (never mind she didn't get the nice HOH room for it) Talk about PRESURE! Jason got off easy he at least had Dani and a 50/50. Lisa didn't choke, whine, complain, or try to psychic out Dani in the pool, she just did what she had to do and endured. You could tell Jason was going to be the first to go... then today Jason and Dani didn't even know who her parents were!.. and were going to (try) to make her nervous... like Jason noticed she was the week before being nominated. I was hoping they were overplaying all that memorisation for the last competition and psychi-ing them selves out, and that is what happend! There was no last minute fix to 'get' what they didn't know from plain caring about others in there. 7 of of 9 is really good in a mulitple choice, but comes easier to someone who is actually listening. Lisa is just able to observe better, read better, and she litterally was interested in those who actually bothered to talk with her, even when it was about themselves. I will never forget the morning her and Gerry talked for 2 hours.... when Gerry asked her if she had read Song of Solomon (and told her why she might like it... having to do with love etc.).. she didn't like him but she did listen, and she learned something too. It amazes me when people only pay close attention to the limelight hoggers, whiners, and negative people... then turn round and say they (the Lisa's) fly under the radar (easy way - sheesh - it is HARD to do in there folks!). Lisa isn't dumb because she is quiet and a bit off the 'norm', but I am glad they all thought so! Last laugh thing She played the BEST game, with the least harm, and not selling herself out (or getting someone else to do it for her so she could remain looking pristeen) and she deserves to be rewarded for being able to do it pleasantly as she did. It's time and some want the nice person to win... and hey.. Lisa is the female verson of Jason, less inhibited, less arrogant, less plotting, more thoughtfull... and her 'boyfriend' is a firefighter, that is a bonus! LOL |
Cc1976 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:06 am     Actually the thing I dislike the most about Lisa is the whole Eric thing. Call me cynical, but I don't believe people go on a TV show, spend a few weeks with somebody and have suddenly found their soulmate, worthy of talking about constantly, the person you first want to see when it's over. I just think reality show "romances" are a fraud. Just like Mike and Krista. |
Toolhound | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:27 am     Mike and Crista were a big joke from the start. He was the biggest idiot on the show and she was second. Lisa and Eric truly seem to care for each other. When they are both out of the house it might be a diferent story. |
Sia | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:44 am     LOL @ myself! When I read your post, Krossd, I read "Lisa is a gem" as "Lisa is a germ." ROTFL! I tipped my head & thought, "How so?" Cc1976, I'm with you in believing that Eric isn't Lisa's "true-love." I'm afraid he's just still publicly supporting her 'cause she's going to be a richer woman next week than she was when they met. She will have the opportunity, thankfully, to find out that he said he'd have no problem evicting her in order to get the money himself. I've always felt that the house distorts the HGs' perceptions of truth & relationships. It's an artificial environment & would be stressful, weird, & paranoia-inducing! Real life awaits the hamsters beyond the walls of BB. Good luck to them all! |
Betty | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:24 am     I'm not surprised J lost because the game was more skewed to a female mind. However, I am surprised he did so badly. I don't understand what was going on with him, whether he choked or what. He missed such, imo, easy questions. |
Solidsnake | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:51 am     lisa did say before she had a good memory.. |
Gina8642 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:06 am     I agree, he really didn't play that well at all. As soon as he got behind he got really flustered and just did worse. I was surprised after he told Dani that he wasn't nervous and he was just going to 'pretend' to be to make Lisa more nervous. Lisa appeared absoluty calm in comparison to Jason during that final comp. I think that is an interesting take on it Betty, that it is skewed toward females. I don't know if you are right or not, but it sorta fits the stereo type of women paying more attention to feelings and emotions and therefore having a better idea of how someone would describe another. |
Sawyou | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:16 am     Most of the aswers were LISA, so she got more of them right. |
Lucymac | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:22 am     I too was surprised at how poorly Jason did and it almost made me wonder if it was intentional. I remember him saying recently he wanted Lisa and Dani to be the last two until Dani convinced him differently. Otherwise, he just doesn't handle pressure well. We did see that in the last question in the 2nd round when he ran into trouble he panicked and messed up completely. Lisa on the other hand played extremely well. You could see the determination on her face (and displeasure on Dani's.) While she was quiet and flying under the radar, she was obviously very observant and taking a lot in about the other house quests. Kudos to Lisa for playing the game so well and knowing when she had to step up to the plate and fight for herself. |
Mrdisguise | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:20 am     Meggieprice wrote: "I also think that the last competition played more to the sort of intuitive strength a woman rather than a man would have." Yes- I agree. It may sound like a stereotype... It was a game of chance and lucky guesses too. |
What555456 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:28 am     LucyMac I agree. I think he threw it to allow Lisa and Dani in the final two. I think it was a misguided attempt to look like Mr. Wonderful, while it really just made him look like Walter Mitty. To have been in that house all this time and then to throw a game like this for image purposes is just silly. |
Justshirley | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:32 am     Most of the aswers were LISA, so she got more of them right. Actually, the answers were split exactly evenly. 3 each for Lisa, Dani and Jason. |
Wrat1010 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:42 am     For the posters who speculate that the challenge was gender-biased: Last year the same type of questions were used for Part 1 of the 3-part HOH, and Will did better than either Monica or Nicole. Lisa, like Will, was simply more observant. Plus once we read/saw on the feeds that pre-competition Jason was panicking on details like Lisa's parents' names and such, you could tell he was very uptight and he choked, plain and simple. |
Boodles | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:20 am     I agree Cc1976. But after he left and she started playing the game, I started liking her. I thought she showed she wanted to keep playing the game and win when she voted Amy back in. As to Jason, I can't decide if he threw it, or if he choked. We will probably never know. |
Rissa | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:30 am     I don't think he threw it. Did you guys see his expression after the 2nd or third one he got wrong? Talk about a picture being worth a thousand words. LOL You could literally see his doom in his face. He knew he had blown it beyond salvation and was going to be evicted. Was a heartbreaking expression. |
Lurknomore | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:35 am     I think sometimes in most of our lives, when something has really mattered, we have all choked, and I think that's what he did during the Saturday competition. I think the boat was just that stupid disraction missle test in the sky and too much going on at once. Bad combo. I say this in a polite agree to disagree mode, but the reasons Krossd gave about Lisa are the exact reasons why I don't feel she deserves to win. It was why I didn't think Monica deserved to win last year. If you walk in there and do nothing but hide under the radar and never take a stand on anything, then in my mind you are not playing the game. I think if folks go in to play a game, to win it they need to have done more than sit through it. Dani played her fanny off, but not so nicely. Jason played when he had to, but VERY nicely. So in my mind regardless of who gets the money, Jason won this game. I think he played it the best. He just blew a couple crucial competitions. Just my opinion. |
Alaginger | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:38 am     Well, I have not had a good week. I live in Slidell, La and the guy from Slidell got kicked off Survivor the first show. My guy Jason lost BB. My friend's hubby died of cancer and I'm going to a funeral this afternoon. And there is a huge hurricane in the Gulf!!! But, I think Jason gave it all he had. I do not think he threw it. I think he just got very nervous which he has showed in the past he does tend to do. I could not believe how cool Lisa was in the water and again in the test. Basically, she stayed focused and I think that carried her over the top. As much as I wanted Jason to win, I think he had every chance and it just wasn't in the cards! |
Victoriafla | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:01 am     Yesterday Jason wanted to make sure Lisa was nervous for the competition. I think it was him who was really nervous and he just couldn't pull it together. |
Puck1021 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:14 am     On a couple of the Questions, Jason's innocence and age showed, I specifically use the Marc answer, who is attractive, Jason thought Lisa, because he was thinking as a hetro not a gay man, if had had been able to put him self in the shoes of the evicted he would have figured out that of the remaining three he would have been considered attractive by Marc. The biggest disadvantage that Jason had was age and innocence. The contest was fair, Jason is just young and not as worldly as the others. |
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