Archive through September 20, 2002
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Dani -- The Most Trustworthy of The All?:
Archive through September 20, 2002
What555456 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:29 am     It seems to me, that Dani is one of the most trustworthy of all of the HG's. From week 1, she has stuck to Jason to be in the Final 2 and is still working hard to do that. After Eric left, she promised Lisa to be in the Final 3 which she delivered. Of the three left, she has been the most activist of all in this game, setting strategy, identifying threats, making decisions. Of course some of those were going to be hard decisions and some would be against others who may or may not have deserved to be evicted. So, of course, she will be the most controversial of all three. Her willingness to stick by what she promsed could have no other effect on her reputaion. Someone had to be the bad guy for Lisa and Jason, neither of whom would have had the guts, much less the brains, to have gotten to where they are now. This game requires a dark side to win -- and she provided it for all three of them. Yes, Lisa and especially Jason, helped her out. But with all the people on this Board who hate Dani because she is a backstabber, liar and gossip, it seems you all fail to remember that she made promises to two people early and has stuck to them. How else would any of you Dani haters have had her act when she was carrying two others on her back? Her trustworthiness to both Jason and Lisa is more than anyone can say about virtually any of the evicted houseguests that got far enough to have to actually do some dirty work. No one can get this far in this game without getting their hands diorty, like Dani has done, or without having someone else get their hands dirty for you -- like Jason and Lisa have let Dani do. Feel free to go down the list of HG's and tell me of one other one who was willing to take the risk of alienating people by doing the dirty work week after week for someone they supposedly were connected with. I can't think of one. Not Amy. Not Roddy. Not Marcellus. Not Eric. Not Gerry. Not Josh. None of them have taken the risks or would have taken the risks for others that Dani has taken. To me, she has shown herself to be not only the best strategist and game player this year -- but also the most trustworthy. All the Dani haters on this Board and the negative comments we here from evicted HG's seems to me to be nothing more than the inevitable consequence that someone as true to her commitments as Dani is was going to have to suffer. She has stayed her ground with Jason and Lisa, done the dirty work to get them and herself this far and is now bashed for it. But she stayed the course and did what needed to be done to be true to her word. |
Ladytex | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:34 am     LOL, dang, What555456 ... hope you have your kevlar and fire resistant suit on for this one! swiftly running out |
What555456 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:36 am     Yep, LadyTex, I know what is going to happen -- and it will happen because Dani has stood her ground for those she was committed to -- Lisa and Jason. |
Twiggyish | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:38 am     The game isn't over, yet. |
Seanflynn | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:38 am     What555 Are you trying to introuduce reasonable analysis into this room? You're no fun! Actually, I agree with you. It's curious that she's such a lightning rod; I find her the most interesting and noble HG, and the one I most would trust in a foxhole with me if it came to that. |
Crazydog | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:42 am     She may have been loyal to Jason but I would hardly describe Danielle as "trustworthy". I wouldn't use the word "trustworthy" to describe someone who stabbed nearly everyone else in the back and gloated about it. She is intent on screwing Lisa over as well by throwing Round 2 of the HoH and thus ensuring she won't have to take Lisa to the finals. As she said so herself, the only people she was loyal to was herself and Jason. I recognize that she stood by Jason. But she only used Lisa because she needed the extra vote, and Lisa herself said that now that they don't need her they will get rid of her. |
Max | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:45 am     If you're Jason, Dani is the most trustworthy person in that place EVER. If you're anyone else? Not so much. |
Itsallgood | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:45 am     I'm Danielled out. If people haven't gotten my Opinion by now, then they don't need it. In less of course, something scandelous happens, then I'll have to speak up again. I'll just say Ditto to Crazydog and Twiggyish's post. ;-) |
Jaxrock | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:46 am     I'm in your corner, What...she has done nothing more than "play the game", and she has stuck with Jason when she could've cut bait and run. She promised Lisa that DJ&L would be final 3, and here they are (even though she has to be worried about Lisa getting HOH, and could've stabbed Lisa in the back and kept Amy in the house). I mean, the point is to get to the end...by whatever means necessary, or did I miss something? |
Niceguy | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:49 am     Not everyone wants to be a errand boy like Jason has been. Some self-effacement is necessary for survival in the game but his was to an absurd level. No one challenged or really paid attention to Danielle's behavior until it was too late and she built enough flimsy alliances to coast her way to this point in the game. Fortunately, people like Danielle will be targeted early next time. Male players won't back off when its time to take a female like that to the mat. |
Marymary | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:50 am     You know, I think if it served her purpose she would she would dump Jason in a NY minute. She really is a treacherous person and I guess that IS to be admired in this game. But I don't like her and I really hate the way she wears her religion.....as if God really gives a hoot about her winning the money. She can't win....can she??? |
Cindyluvsroddy | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:54 am     was Dani trustworthy with Marcy? i don't think so .... |
Harkonnen | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:55 am     I agree that Dani has played the best game, probably in BB history, inside the house. Where she failed miserably is in the DR and her bashing of former houseguests. There was absolutely no reason for this and is the only thing that will cost her the game. |
Spunky | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:57 am     Her only problem (referring to the first post) is that she got too confident that she had the game with all her "discerning" and "scheming" but underestimated the determination of another one, not Amy, but Lisa. Danielle should be happy with the 50k. |
Bomom | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:59 am     But was Marcy trustworthy with Danielle? (Remember the covert deals with Roddy in the hot tub, Lisa in the kitchen, etc.) |
Wcv63 | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 08:59 am     I agree with your post What. I admire your willingness to withstand the slings and arrows that are sure to follow. I've decided that the "hit and run" method of defending Dani is more conducive to the good of my mental health. Those who are willing to take blow after blow have a stronger consitution than I. Be strong What555! I have faith in you. I'm very loyal to your cause. |
Guinevere | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:00 am     "If I have something to say, I'll say it to your face" - Danielle to Amy "Don't worry - I've got your back" - Danielle to Marcellus, as well as others Trustworthy isn't the word I'd use for her. |
Beocca | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:01 am     yeah right! now she is gonna throw the next comp so she doesnt have to "scumbag lisa" I wouldnt trust her with my dog!!! |
Cindyluvsroddy | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:01 am     i so agree with you Harkonnen -- Dani has failed that last crucial part of this game ... the most important part - the votes from the jury. i think the jury could excuse being lied to and stuff ... or being played .. cause that is what the game is about ... it is the name-calling - that has no bearing on getting yourself ahead in the game - that will ultimitly decide her fate and lose this game ... with that said, Dani is not the best player ever in BB3 ... i think that has to go to Will |
Spunky | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:03 am     There are no "slings" or "arrows", the comment by What was very appropriate and it's true that Dany had the best strategy, her "only" flaw was that she had the tendency to underestimate another...and we had proof of that last night...simple as that.. |
Sunni | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:04 am     I agree with you What.. Dani is the best and I hope fortunately there is more than one female like her in the next BB. God cares about all people (in and out of a game ). She is not perfect but it is not anyones place to judge her relationship with God or her family. IMHO. |
Niceguy | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:05 am     I need to make a correction, instead of: Male players won't back off when its time to take a female like that to the mat. It should say: Grown-ups won't back off when its time to take an individual like that to the mat. |
Marymary | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:07 am     Gosh....Sorry Sunni....you don't think she's using her version of religion to manipulate others? |
Onlyhuman | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:09 am     Bomom...no one said that Marcellas was more trustworthy than Danielle, just that Marcellas would not support the contention that Danielle was the most trustworthy. Danielle has been fiercely loyal to Jason, there is no denying that. He has also been loyal to her. You could also make the argument that Amy was intensely loyal to Marcellas (though most thought she was crazy for that.) In terms of forming an alliance and remaining loyal to that...well, yes, Danielle and Jason have stayed the course. But Danielle made a promise to Lisa last night and has no intention of keeping it. Does that make her trustworthy? Only if you're Jason and not Lisa... |
Twintown | Friday, September 20, 2002 - 09:09 am     What555: I agree with you. May the FORCE BE WITH YOU because the Dani Hate Crew as I deem them swarm like locust with the purpose of nothing else but to destroy Dani and all those who say ANYTHING, even 1 thing, positive about her. What555, I'm going to have a sip wine and pour some out on the ground to you as a tribute. |
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