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Gina8642

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Nice analysis Tripwaste.

I think you did a really nice job there. There are many parallels in the Jason/Dani and Hardy/Nicole alliances and you id'd them nicely.

If Jason's parents are anything like Jason, I don't think they will rue anything about his loyalty to Dani in the house. I think they will think it was great. True friendship is looking beyond your friends' faults. Jason epitomizes this.

Dogdoc

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was all for Jason until the endurance boat-key competition. I think he showed a lack of spirit for the game by dropping out early. Roddy did the same thing in the HOH pool endurance but there it was more obvious. I think that Lisa likes Jason a lot but she knew her chances were better going up agains Danielle.

Letmeinthere

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is the true winner of this game. He never bad mouthed Dani, he never strategized against her - even till the final end. He was unselfish in wanting her to win - even if they both went to the final together - he always said he wanted her to win. He even supported her throw the HoH so she wouldn't have to keep her promise to Lisa for the final 2. He didn't hold it against her.

His parents should be proud of him. He's a decent guy with a bright future I believe.

Bigsister

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tripwaste - great insights.

One minor quibble - I don't think it was Jason that Dani sold out in the pool. I think she sold Lisa out (or would have). I do agree with your last statement. Jason has class.

Tresbien

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, I agree with your comments and would add one more. When Jason nominated Gerry instead of Roddy, that was based on his self-interest as well. He knew that Gerry would come after him and that Dani was in jeopardy with Roddy, but he chose the course that worked best for himself.

Earthmother

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason is young and has years to make his fortune. He had an opportunity to show the us that there are some really wonderful and special people in this world. I hope he will be given opportunities based on his performance in life. He walks away from that house with something that most don't and that's respect. Thousands of people respect this guy and he deserves that. What a nice young man!!

Mrdisguise

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason did not seem to care about the money. Yes- shocking.

Screeminmeemie

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason seems a little controlling to me. He acts like he wants to direct people in what happens. He has corrected people many times, and even though he keeps his voice soft, I could tell he was angry. Saturday, he was telling Lisa and Danielle when and what to ask before the competition, to the point that Danielle became angry with him. She said "fine, I'm just not going to talk". It is easy to back him down, though. He is overly image concious, both in his appearance and in his actions. When he was so angry about the food competition, I was thinking that he is really spoiled and cannot take physical deprivation gracefully. I think there is a real conflict in Jason and it manifests itself in his halting speech. I'm not saying he is not a nice person. I have found it more interesting to observe him than any other houseguest. Perhaps he is trying to keep up the image of being totally innocent to his family so as not to disappoint them. I really think Jason would have liked to been more a part of the group than he was. I just get the feeling that he is not his own person because of the image that he feels compelled to display.

Wcv63

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Screemin...I don't think he is displaying an "image" but trying to stay true to his morals and morals and beliefs. Everyone has an Archille's heel and everyone has human weaknesses and failings. Jason is aware of his failings (he said he is impatient) and has worked on this for as long as he can remember.

I think Jason is an admirable young man with a good sense of who he is and what he wants out of life. I believe he has his priorities straight and because of his self-awareness and convictions will have a bright and wonderful future.

Cmore

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo said "Additionally, of course the money is more important to Dani. That's why she went on the show. The money would be for her family. She should be loyal to a man she's known for two and a half months over her family? Is that what you're saying? Be more loyal to a stranger than yourself in a competition such as BB? I find that so odd.

True friend. Hmm. Yes they're friends. And, I do believe they may become true friends. I just can't believe you're suggesting that someone on a "game show" should be loyal to another game show player when they really don't know each other all that well."


No Wendo, again you are trying to read something into what i am saying that just wasn't there. Sure Dani was there for the money as they ALL WERE, except maybe Jason.

What I was implying by the statement is that it is just another classic statement of the kind of person Dani really is. It was something perhaps they all were thinking, but only something a mean spirited and hurtful person would say out loud.

The only purpose it could possibly serve is to once again hurt other HG's feelings. It goes to show you that Dani is only about Dani and has little or no respect of others feelings. She is a very very self centered person.

Mrdisguise

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason controlled himself becuz he didn't want to be trashed by viewers like Karen of BB1 or Nicole of BB2

Bernie

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason seemed to be the most informed of all houseguests so far, as to what actually makes it over the airwaves. If that made him circumspect, then that also made him a good player of the game, because he used his knowledge to try to win both inside and outside the house. He and Roddy had a similar technique, in fact, but Roddy manipulated too much and so he lost. I think Jason played an awesome game, and I can't fault him for not speaking up when those around him were doing their trashtalk, because it would have put him in the same position Gerry was after his POV speech. NO one likes to be shown the error of their ways.
His most crucial error was in following Danielle's lead and making Lisa part of their alliance, because of false reasoning. The night before the final parts of the contest, he said to Danielle that he would beat Lisa in a memory test, and ironically later on Lisa said to Danielle that she would beat Jason in a memory test, because that was her strongpoint, and she proved it. I'm sorry that Jason didn't make to the end.

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cmore, but aren't you assuming that the response wasn't illicited by BB in the diary room, rather than Dani just offering it up freely? As some of the HG's have stated, BB would ask certain questions of the HG's to get responses. So, it's fair to say that it's possible that Dani wouldn't have said this comment had BB not asked it of her.

Look at it this way, imagine your a BB player. You're in the final three and you came on this show with the purpose of winning the money for your family. BB asks you, is the money more important to you than Jason and Lisa? Would you say that people you just met are more important than the original purpose you came into the game?

You're faulting Dani for saying it out loud when it's entirely possible (even likely) that the question was asked by BB.

Eden

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bernie, isn't that moot? I'm a purist. I judge the game not by moral judgments, like some, but gameplaying.

Jason was a very nice guy!!! Thing is, he BLEW the final HOH competition. He didn't blow it to advance Danielle, cause he KNEW she was on her way to the final two. He didn't blow it for Lisa, cause he thinks she's pretty. He just plain blew it. I suppose you can believe he sacrificed himself for others and lost on purpose. I don't buy that. He was too much of a competitor for that. He lost fair and square. Is that an indication that he isn't ruthless? Maybe. Who knows? Might have been nerves. Maybe he just doesn't see himself as others perceived him. Maybe he knows himself much better than people who knew him for a mere weeks. Maybe he played his role so well he was completely misperceived. Maybe he should have realized that.

WOW! Lots of maybes... Jason was in this game to the end and HE LOST it HIMSELF. That's the truth of it. He wanted to win as much as anyone. He didn't. He was a great BB player!

Tobor7

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason was cast as the "innocent" and he delivered on his role.
I'm glad that he had his fate in his own hands at the end. I just wish the event he lost was a longer or more complicated one.

When he had to deliver (in the boats) he was just soft. Too concerned about everything around him-- not about the task at hand. He needs to learn to FOCUS.

He existed in the show well.
On a chess board, he was an advanced pawn protected by Dani the bishop.

Jasonfan

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that J had his fate in his own hands. I disagree, though, with the idea that he was "too soft" to win in the boats. J himself has said he is hyperactive (I'm not sure he used that word, but as a teacher, I think it applies). To say he just should have focussed is like telling a person with depression to cheer up. It's not so simple. That competition would have been nearly impossible for someone like J to win. I'm glad he had his chance in the third part, but it just wasn't meant to be for him.

Will he be remembered as the guest who helped D get to the final 2? I think he'll be remembered as the guest who made it, along with his number one alliance, to the final three and then was beat out by a strong competitor who peaked at the right time.

I think all three played excellent games.