Lisa is telling Dani not to worry , she will tell secret at wrap party!
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Spotbiter

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It is fun to think it might be something more, but I watched and honestly think that Lisa's "secret" she plans to tell Dani at the cast party is simply that she would have chosen Dani to be in the final two even without the deal she made in the boat.

She wants to make Dani feel better about Jason's exit (since Dani feels responsible), but doesn't want to say it until the voting's done.

Lanzee

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish I could get an invitation for the cast party since I live in LA. LOL!!! It would be blast! But, I am sure that it's best for Lisa not to say it. She's smart!!

Go, Lisa, go!!

Krossd

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spotbiter, she has already told Dani that, and she told Dani that she knew Dani would have choosen Jason even with that deal. Whatever reasons she gave herself, or were 'given' to her (by signs) it was her belief that she would get there that got her there.

Wendo, I've enjoyed your thoughts and posts on this game but if you don't mind my saying, I think you have a bit of a blind spot in not being able to see that Lisa was 'playing' the game even tho she didn't appear to be in those intiital weeks. I have disagreed before and tried to point out that Lisa did play before AND after Eric left (just more obvious playing after)... she didn't appear to play...but she had to overcome being first HOH and laying low, and still being a part WAS playing, was a way, a strategy, just not a plan. She rode the waves as they came at her, and was observant while she watched, and listenend, it wasn't obvious, but that doesn't mean it wasn't there. When she heard Josh and Gerry plotting in SR next to the HOH she was alone in... that tipped her, and the hanging round and REALLY listening after that... gave her the confirmation that matched... and on we go... GOOD Game Lisa! You may not (appear to) be the "smartest cookie in the house" but you were in actuality, and in competence as well.

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Krossd, well, that's your opinion. IMO, I don't have a blind spot. I give Lisa credit for kicking butt in the final two HOH competitions. I give her credit for making good moves in the game to advance her position. (ie: hooking up with Dani, and, by extension, Jason.) And, I give her credit for making the final two with the (likely) possibility of winning the big bucks.

However, I also think that had she not been brought into the game by Dani, she would not be in the house tonight. Lisa herself said tonight that she learned a lot from Dani and it helped her get to this point.

(I also think this is one reason (other than the obvious, she can beat Dani) why Lisa chose Dani over Jason. I think she respects Dani for helping her see where her position was with Roddy and Chiara, as well as where she was in the game; in danger.)

I give kudos to Lisa, I really do. I just think she had the right help at the right time.

Itekks

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
does anyone here have the live feed? no one has posted in the live feed area for over 3hrs and i just wanted to know if anything is going on - are they asleep? thanks

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They're asleep Itekks. Went to bed awhile ago...

I actually turned off my feeds.

Phillymom

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think even Lisa herself said she didn't start playing the game until after Eric left, or words to that effect. I like Lisa, she is sweet, but she's not the brightest crayon in the box. She's been pretty clueless about what's been going on for most of the game. I think she's there mostly as a matter of luck, not game-playing skills. I guess it's better that she remained quiet throughtout most of the game, because the more she talks, the more flaky she sounds, LOL. Just my opinion.

Jasonfan

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The more Lisa says, the more credit I give her. She made the comment last night that "Eric would have turned on me in the game eventually." She knew what was going on. The fact she answered those final questions so well shows me she can read people. she just doesn't see the need to talk about what she's reading. Where J may have been hurt in the final competition is he does talk about what other HG's think with others, and the thoughts of others may have entered his mind. I'm thinking in particular of the Chiara comment (he thought she said he was insecure).

Just a thought.

Mrose4243

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if Lisa's secret is her LIPREADING ability?

that would explain a lot!

Goddess146

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"We have not seen Lisa playing the game."

Would that not be the very best way for her to play the game? If she played the game such that none of us could see it, then it is certain that none of the HGs would see it.

She is either playing the game very, very well or is very, very lucky. Why not give her benefit of the doubt and assume that she is playing very, very well?