Did You Get What You Came For? A Superfan says NO!
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Turgon

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
my only problem was that it was 1 hour instead of 2. we needed that closure of everyone sittin down together after the winner was decided. would have been nice to see more of lisa and dani's reunions as well. instead we got listen to them say things about each hg's ...,. great...

Jagger

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was not happy with the game over all, I wanted to see more twists in it, it was almost the same as last years, except for the veto. I would have liked something differently for the ending, it was too predictable, even the final challenge was predictable. I would also like them to go back to 1st 2nd 3rd place winners, that might make the final weeks a little more exciting.

Creampuff

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am totally disappointed. Not necessarily due to who won, but in the way the majority feel compelled to play the game.

I won't bother to critique the entire show, others have covered most aspects of it, and quite adequately. Thanks everyone for your comments.

What I will say is that it is evident 11 of 12 hg's were willing to compromise their principles repeatedly and for the most part did not play the game with any semblance of integrity.

The person I really choose to bash?.....Myself! Given the fact that I wasted 30-40 hours of my life watching the show on TV and countless hours reading the LFP's ticks me off, at me!!

At the moment I tell myself I shall stick with The Mole, Amazing Race and Survivor. Maybe I will change my mind when BB4 rolls around. The problem is that I would have to watch to see if anything is improved, wouldn't I? LOL

Dixielady

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Althought I do not have the feeds I have friends that do so have been "inside" as well as the edited, "cleaned up" views that TPTB allowed.
I did NOT want Dani to win. True she "played a good game" but at the expense of others feelings.
It is over, done and BB4 being made. I hope they make some major changes and maybe someday get it right.

Bastable

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Creampuff, I think it has everything to do with the HGs and how they play the game. Last year, they gave the prize to the person who played like Dani. This year, they did the opposite.

It all depends on how the mood and theme of the house develops in those first weeks. In this case, Roddy, Gerry, and Marcellas set the tone of "I-was-a-good-person" (true or not) and Dani got gummed up in that at the end. If she were in Will's house, it would have been a cakewalk.

So next year could be just fine. Depends on how the jury members choose to spin it.

Creampuff

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You're right, Bastable. The tone in the house IS determined at the beginning of the game. My point is that a hg need not 'buy into' the darker aspects of the game to remain a player. Guess a lot of it is resorted to as a method of retaliation and grows from that point.

I must add that although I despised Will last year, once I understood what his strategy was, and how he told everyone at the outset that he was going to lie (!), I changed my mind and rooted for him!

Now you KNOW I am confused! ~LOL~ Like everyone else, I'll get over it.

Brenda1966

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Um, isn't it always a love fest when these reality show contestants reunite? It happens each time with BB and with Survivor and even Amazing Race. The only example I can think of where tensions were still present is with S1 btw Kelly and Sue.

Whether the gushing, kissing, and forgiving are real or are just show so that they don't appear to be jerks is questionable, but it happens every time and, yeah, it's boring and cheesy.

I'd have liked to see the reasoning behind each vote... "I voted for you because...". Other than that it was okay.

Jimmer

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just wish they weren’t so shallow about it. Be polite, be civil, and be gracious in giving and accepting apologies. That’s fine. Just don’t fall all over loving each other.

Uhoh

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
my biggest disappointment is that marcellas was STILL proclaiming himself so bloody 'kind' and claiming that's why he lost the game.

i also wanted to see an extra hour and the houseguests calling each other on some of their behavior. too unrealistic, though, i know...

Stargazer

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya said she watched the live feeds also, I'm sure most of them did that had time to after being evicted, and to my knowledge, CBS has NO WAY to edit those!>>>

But didn't a lot of the evicted HG's state they were basing their votes on the DR comments?

Jimmer

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Realistically (now there’s an ironic word used here), as disappointed as I am at the ending, it is unlikely that we will ever see the houseguests show much more than shallow emotion at the end of the game. Most of these people either want to try to get promotional stuff in the entertainment industry (good luck) and don’t want to say anything that will hurt their chances or they want to just slink off into the sunset. Of course some are just delusional. Also they’ve had a chance to see how good/bad they appeared in the house. Compare this to the final Survivor Tribal Council, where no one has seen any tapes and they are still close to the game. Overall though, even in the Survivor wrap-up, which takes place long after the final Tribal Council, I think the contestants are much more honest in their feelings toward each other. There is no big final love in, just mutual respect (with a few notable exceptions).

Cricket

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I too would have liked to see them together after the winner was decided. I'd love to see if Marci would be rude to Dani to her face or if he is just all talk. I felt bad for Dani because everyone ignored her and was hovering around Lisa.

It would have been more closure to see any of them have a conversation with her after their votes. We only got to see Josh give her a hug on the steps when they were posing for the pictures.

I read somewhere that he cried and said he should have voted for her. I've never seen people who vote one way and then regret it.

Also wouldn't have minded seeing more interaction between Eric and Lisa, as the last few days, I'm not exactly sure where she was going with that romance.

Does anyone think they will have a special of the cast party?

Cheetah

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They didn't even make a comment about the relationship Amy & Marcellas had! I was waiting for Julie to ask Amy about what Marcellas had said about her!

Also-I don't think Danielle is EVIL(or Roddy for that matter) It wasn't GOOD vs. EVIL either. How they voted was how they voted-that's that! I think anyone who could have won $500,000 would be lucky no matter how they "played".

After the first week I said: I don't like Danielle. And after the Chi/Ton shower incident w/
Amy-right then and there I thought-"good for u Amy" they were acting immature. Like words from a song: "In the end-it doesn't even matter!"
I still liked the show and will miss everyone!

Llkoolaid

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The show was a disappointment for me, but probably because my favorite didn't win more than anything. The love in was sickening. I also agree with whoever said we should be discussing statagey instead of fighting over personalities. I really missed the good discussion of what someone should do, or what we think they should do,and why it would help them win.

I would have like to see them vote in the DR and give a justification for their vote. Next year I think that the ehg's should be given a criteria to pick a winner from and that the hgs should know what they are going to be judged on. I don't like that it was a popularity contest. I realize that there was no set way that they were supposed to vote but I think there should be. I think it would be a much better game if they had to rate each player on things like manipulation, under the radar, scheming, making alliances, being loyal, lying , lack of lying , game playing. I think that is the only way we could really say who played the best game, it should be defined.

I would also like to see better games. Those q&a, games got a bit boring. All in all I enjoyed the game, but not the last show. It seemed to be so fake. Maybe that is just sour grapes because my girl didn't win but I don't think so because I did like Lisa too, I just didn't like the 9-1 vote, which I think was not really true of the hgs feelings. Anyway it is over and I am glad because I need to clean my house real bad.