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Spunky

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Looks like it's going to be a close vote

Danielle has: Jason, Josh, Gerry, Amy

Lisa has: Eric, Roddy, Chiara, Tonya, Lori, Marcellas

However, Chiara or Marcellas could choose Danielle

AND WE'D HAVE A TIE!!!

So call in!!

Ilovewill

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy - hmm wild card but may be Lisa cuz Lisa didnt mock her as much as Dani
Chiara - Lisa
Eric - Lisa
Gerry - Lisa
Jason - Dani
Josh - Dani
Lori - Lisa
Marc - Lisa
Roddy - Lisa
Tonya - lisa

8-2 FOR LISA
OR MAYBE 7-3 depending on Amy's vote

Bohica

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa with seven votes.

Dani receives votes from Josh & Jason.

Gerry refuses to vote for either one.

Bohica

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Charlesfk asked:

"Does some of you get outside info about Amy. She said many times that she want Danielle to win."

Amy had a chat on her website yesterday evening. She said she had viewed tapes of 10 shows and has changed her opinion on Dani. Sounded like she will vote for Lisa.

Emo1979

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Lisa made the best decision she could have by getting rid of Jason... as someone pointed out, it would have been viewed as the finale of coattail-riders.

I think Danielle played an excellent, smart game IN THE HOUSE, but she screwed up in that she didn't play to the evicted houseguests enough. What was she thinking, talking so much smack on everyone?

If I was voting, I would want to vote for Danielle's in-house strategy, but I would have a hard time bringing myself to actually doing it. And I'd feel stupid for being emotional about it, but it IS part of the game to not bag on people whose votes you'll need later!

I know the same argument could possibly be made against Will, but Will was a different story... I actually felt like he invented a persona for the game and that a lot of the "mean" things he said about people were really true (i.e. Monica is pretty stupid and Nicole is a psycho). So people kind of gasped when he said that stuff, but they knew deep down that he was just saying stuff that everyone knew was true. Not to mention he admitted upfront repeatedly about what a scumbag he himself was, LOL.

Anyway... My predictions on who will vote for who:

For sure Lisa:
Eric
Tonya
Roddy

For sure Danielle:
Jason
Josh

Up in the air:

Lori - We haven't heard enough from her lately to understand her thinking on the people left. She'd have reasons to go either way.

Chiara - It would be my guess that she would NOT vote for Danielle, but I could see her just as easily deciding to spite Lisa for whatever reason she felt like.

Gerry - He dislikes both L & D and both of them have said unkind things about him. I have no clue who he's going to vote for.

Marci - Has said he's changed his tune about Danielle, but he's so volatile I have no faith that he'll stick to that.

Amy - Basically the same thing, but it sounds pretty likely that she is anti-Danielle now.

But I don't think we can count many people as for sure on this... just like this year's Survivor, I think people are really going to be grappeling with this until the last minute because they don't like the choices they've been presented with.

Edited to add that while people may think Lisa shouldn't win because she had no strategy, I don't think that's entirely fair. I think she should win because she made few enemies and when tough choices had to be made, she didn't shy away from making the difficult, but right decisions (ie. not voting for Eric to return). Frankly, sometimes I think that's enough, especially if you're faced with someone who valued one strategy (making to the final two) too much to actually have a plan to win the game.

Silversamba

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lori-Not sure, but because of the handwashing thing, I will guess a vote for Lisa

Tonya-Lisa

Amy-Another I am not totally sure of, but if what has been reported on chats and such is true, I would guess Amy will go with Lisa

Eric-Lisa(duh!)

Josh-Danielle

Chiara-Lisa

Gerry-He is probably the only one that sees a "lesser of two evils" scenario. BTW, when did Lisa appologize for anything she said about Gerry? Lisa I think made the "P" word comment on the feeds(don't think it was shown on TV) so he might not know about that. He also said in his chat that he never took Lisa very seriously nor her parting comment. Therefore, I think he will think Lisa as the lesser of the two evils and vote for her.

Roddy-Lisa

Marcellas-Lisa

Jason-Danielle

My overall prediction-Lisa wins 8-2

Onlymytulips

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Votes for Lisa to win:
Roddy, Gerry, Chiara (she owes her), Amy, Marcellas, Lori, Tonya, Eric
Votes for Dani:
Josh, Jason

8 for Lisa / 2 for Danielle

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Quite honestly, I think it's just too difficult to call this. There are so many variables. The jury is going to be together and will likely talk to one another, deliberate as they say. Jason may appeal to them to vote based on the game (as well as Josh too.) As he said tonight in his exit interview, this isn't life and death, it's a game. While Roddy has a lot of pull, I think Jason has the respect of the others too. There are also a number of swing votes this year.

Actually, having Jason on the outside may help Dani in the end. Who knows.

Gerry for instance. Does he vote for the one who criticized his hygiene habits, or does he vote for the one who basically accused him of sexual deviency? (Pedophile or pervert, still rather insulting.) Amy is another one. Yep, she's rather angry with Dani right now. But she was angry with Roddy too, and now all is right as rain with him. She knows she mocked HG's in the house, will she hold it against Dani when she did the same thing?

It's really impossible to know.

Tobor7 said, "Josh liked Lisa."

Actually, Tobor, Josh can't stand Lisa. He said it repeatedly while he was in the house.

Northstar

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
For the most part, the EHG are an emotional bunch. I'm not confident it will be a certain win for Lisa. I'm thinking the question will ultimately be, how many 99 cent calls will friends and family be willing to place for a $450,000 return?

Dagny

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo...how can jason have any pull?? He was called spineless...and a pushover. Obviously they feel he was under Dani's spell.

Bigbrotheraddit

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It would be the best for the show if it comes to a tie as america would decide. If that happens just from being in the chat rooms I think Lisa will have it, after saying that, I don't think the EVH will want America to pick their game winner.
Remember, HOw amy and marcellas got mad then glad, well I have a supension that both will go for Dani.
Dani Lisa
Jason Eric
Josh Roddy
Gerry Tanya
Marcellas Chiara
Amy
Lori is my crazy vote I don't know about but think it will go for Dani

Ministryoftruth

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Josh and Jason for Danielle;
Everybody else for Lisa.

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if he'll have any pull, I didn't say that. I stated that it "may" help Dani, not that it would.

However, based on comments from the EHG, I do believe he has their respect. Just because their one word descriptions intimated that he was under Dani's thumb, it doesn't give a full representation on their feelings about him.

While I don't know if he'll have any ability to sway people one way or another, and who knows if he would even do that, they may listen to his thoughts on why he's voting for her to win.

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bigbrotheraddit, don't be too sure how America would vote. There's about nine million people watching the show. How many are "internet BB watchers"? Likely a small percentage. While I don't think every viewer will call in, tv viewers of reality shows tend to have different feelings and perspectives than internet watchers.

Impossible to say, imo.

Phillymom

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:08 am EditMoveDeleteIP
At first, I thought Lisa had this thing wrapped up. But now, I'm not so sure.

Probably Dani: Jason, Josh
Probably Lisa: Eric, Tonya, Roddy, Marc
Who Knows: Gerry, Lori, Amy, Chiara

So, a win or a tie for Dani is still a possibility.

Smowen99

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is my opinion:

Lori - Lisa
Tonya - Lisa
Eric - Lisa (vote omitted)
Roddy - Lisa
Chiara - Lisa
Gerry - Lisa
Marc - Danielle
Amy - Danielle
Josh - Danielle (vote omitted)
Jason - Danielle

Yippie!!!! LISA WINS!!!!!

Earthmother

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It depends on what criteria they use to make the final decision..game playing, or personal vendetta!!

If they vote game playing:

Dani will have all the votes except Eric's. (Eric wouldn't know game since he really never played it)

If they are voting based on what was said about them and not the game itself

Lori.....Lisa
Tonya....Lisa
Eric.....Lisa
Josh.....Dani
Chiara...Dani
Amy......Dani (if aware that Lisa trashed her as much as Dani did)
Gerry....Dani (if aware of Lisa's pedifile comment)
Roddy....Lisa
Marc.....Lisa
Jason....Dani


That would make it a tie and the viewers would be able to then decide.

Monalisa

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would have said it will be 8-2 with Danielle only getting the votes of Jason and Josh. But now that Danielle is being so honest about everything.....and Lisa saying "I knew that." I don't know. I think alot will also depend on the questions. It may not be the boring finale we thought it would be.

(Hoping they were watching live feeds last night)

Moonfairys

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is my prediction:

Lori - Lisa
Because she had the argument with Dani

Tonya - Lisa
Because Dani said so many nasty things about her

Eric - Lisa *Vote thrown out*
Because he said "Hi"

Roddy - Lisa
Because she has lots of soul.

Chiara - Danielle
Because she is a vindictive *&#@.

Gerry - Danielle
Because he will admire the way she played the game.

Marcelus - Lisa
Because he thinks Dani played him.

Amy - Lisa
Because she finally saw what was really goin on.

Josh - Danielle
Because (and I really dont understand why) he just plain dont like Lisa.

Jason - Danielle *Vote thrown out*
Because he is Dani's "boy"


Which would mean: Lisa 5 -valid votes
Danielle 3 -valid votes

Lisa would win! As I predicted, and hoped for (even when she got whiney) from the first show!!!!

Floresmama

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya - Lisa

Eric - Lisa

Roddy - Lisa

Marcellas - Lisa

Lori - Danielle even though they had the argument over the Gerry thing I think that Lori got over it just as she said she did after they talked. Lisa on the other hand used her as a decoy to remove Marcellas and then abandonded her when Gerry used the POV. So Lisa is ultimately responsible for Lori's removal from the house.


Chiara - Danielle because Chiara never really liked Lisa beyond the women vs. men thing. She tried to get rid of her. Danie on the other hand was her friend and was really sad when she had to bend to Amy's will and rally votes to cause her to leave. Once again Danielle didn't vote her out Lisa did.

Gerry - Danielle even though Danie had a personal problem with his MLK type speech and his hygiene. It was Lisa who actually started and continued to assert that Gerry was a pervert/pedophile. I personally find that too hard to forgive and I would hope Gerry would also.

Josh - Danielle

Jason - Danielle

Amy - I think that she could go either way. She is the one I think might be the most swayed by the final speeches and the Q&A.

So as I go back and tally up my guesses I am surprised to see that it is:

Danie - 5
Lisa - 4

With Amy either giving it to Danielle or to us the American Public. HMM I already voted last night 5 times I guess I will have to throw a little more money CBS's way.

Marcieb

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I keep coming up with a tie and I'm guessing America will vote for Lisa--lots of teens impressed with visible navels!

Dannie gets votes from: Lori (moms unite!), Josh (respects her game), Chiara (loves D, wouldn't choose Li as a friend outside), Gerry (can you spell "pedophile"?), & Jason (loyal to the end)

Lisa gets votes from: Tonya (6-pack + D's character assasination of her), Eric, Roddy (the "devil" will make him do it), Amy (tough call here but Marc might get to her), & Marcellas (he perceives a ruthless betrayal by D)

This is such a better end-game than I ever dreamed!

Deetles

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it will be 8-2

Dani getting Josh and Jason. The rest for Lisa!!

Monalisa

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
If the vote ends up in Dani's favor (still hoping), I see Roddy jumping up, saying the vote was rigged, the voting machines didn't work, we need a recount.....it's Florida all over. LOL

Spunky

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:06 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it true that this year they don't void a vote???

Wrat1010

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
TONYA: Lisa (she called Lisa "fake" but as far as I can judge, coming from Tonya, that's a compliment!)

ERIC: LISA (easy)
RODDY: LISA (easy)
JASON: DANIELLE (easy)

JOSH: LISA: I agree as someone else posted that while he thinks Danielle deserves to win, he would rather be on the "winning team" for selfish reasons, e.g., the trip to Cancun with Roddy, Lisa, Eric, Chiara. The fact that he describes Danielle as overconfident tells me he thinks Lisa is the winner.

CHIARA: LISA (same reason as Josh)

GERRY: LISA since probably he is more disappointed in Danielle. Then again, he could pull another "cast the first stone" speech and vote for DANIELLE.

LORI: DANIELLE (because LISA was in 6-pack; peanut butter bikini contest)

MARCELLAS: ?
AMY: ?
I would assume that both will vote for Lisa, but while in the house, Danielle had a lot of pull over them, and I could see her winning them back at the last moment with some heart-tugging apology.


AMERICA'S CHOICE (if tied): LISA (easy to predict based on the results of last week's CBS poll about who do you think should win HOH which LISA won by a wide margin)

VOTES: 8-2 LISA or 6-4 LISA. If the voting was Survivor-style, where the Final 2 get to address the jury face to face, and make opening and closing remarks, then I think Danielle would have a much better chance, however - conceivable for her to win back lost votes from Marcellas, Amy, Chiara, and Gerry, if she appeared more genuine than Lisa.