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Archive through September 26, 2002
Moe | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:39 am     whywrongpersonwon.html |
Ginger | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:00 am     That link took forever to load, so I copied and pasted the whole thing in here for your reading pleasure. I like Lisa, but I have to say I basically agree with this writer. Oh, 'Brother' Why the wrong person won the ''Big Brother'' dough -- If it wasn't Jason taking home the half mil, says Dalton Ross, it should have been Danielle She wuz robbed! Okay, Danielle may have been a major-league backstabber, overplayed the angles at times, and gone a little overboard with the whole Roddy-is-the-devil thing, but at least the woman played the game! At least she made the show interesting to watch. Lisa? BO-RING! What in 12 weeks did she contribute to the show? What did we learn about her, other than the fact that she thinks it's really cool when guys stop to say ''hi'' while making out with her on national television? Now some may say she ''played under the radar,'' but that's a bunch of baloney. Homegirl just lucked out. The one smart thing she did was not voting her boyfriend Eric back in the house. I'll give her that. But otherwise, this was all Danielle's show. Well, Danielle and Jason's. Anyone who's read this column before (Hello, anyone? Bueller? Anyone?) knows I was pulling for the last American virgin for stabbing people with a smile, but once he was gone, you'd figure his partner in crime should at least get the dough. More like d'oh! That was almost a clean sweep we had there in the final tally, which had to be the most lopsided vote -- 9-1 -- in reality-TV history since Recruit Wolf got skunked in ''Boot Camp.'' Once again, the live portion of the broadcast was a well-oiled machine, assuming said machine is anything used from Radio Shack. I especially loved the part where the doorbell sound came on -- BEFORE JASON EVEN RANG THE DOORBELL!!! And then after they announced the winner, we were treated to some awesome instrumental music that sounded like Jan Hammer married to some warmed over Najee. Memo to dudes at CBS: Spend some of next year's prize money on a soundtrack. Of course, this all wasn't nearly as entertaining as host Julie Chen playing word association with Lisa and Danielle by bringing up all the evicted housemates. (At least, I'm assuming it was entertaining. To tell the truth, I think I fell asleep somewhere in between ''teacher'' and ''angelic.'') So another season of bitching and bikinis is behind us, and while it wasn't quite as entertaining as last year's edition with Will the Evil Doctor, it was still pretty damn good. It's just too bad that that lame-o Lisa had to walk away with the loot. I mean, look at the example it sets for all future ''Big Brother'' contestants. It basically says, be nice, boring, have no personality, and you can win it all. It might make for a good morality tale, but it doesn't make for good TV. After all, remember the first season of ''Big Brother''? No, didn't think so. (Posted:09/26/02) |
Seamonkey | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:33 am     He's certainly welcome to his opinion. I'm happy and yes, I absolutely do remember the first season. |
Ark | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:35 am     Thanks for the article. They pretty much sum up my opinion. Until the last two weeks of the show, I can't remember one entertaining moment that Lisa provided me with. She spent the first few weeks in bed, either sick or snuggling with Eric. Once Eric was gone, she just stood behind Jason & Dani and let them get her to the final three. THEN she finally started playing the game. I would LOVE to be friends with Lisa but as an entertaining game player, she fails terribly. |
Battlestar | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:36 am     ---I think in the next BB installment the HGs will target the NICE people for immediate eviction.... "Everybody likes ya--you're outta here!!!" |
Lycanthrope | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:09 am     I have a totally opposite take on this year's game. Why is it so bad for someone to win if they have a SWEET personality?? Lisa didn't have NO personality, she was just LOVEABLE. Where's the harm in that? Why do some folks want to come down on her for being a genuinely caring person. What did it for me was the phone call competition. She has a HUGE heart, and she fully deserved the cash. I'll defend her to the end. And the houseguests obviously felt the same... |
Kailas | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:30 am     I think Nicole from BB2 said it best: "Comparing BB2 and BB3 is like comparing the American Civil War with "The Summer Of '69." It is a matter of taste in entertainment. |
Cameramanbob | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:34 am     Thank you sooo much for this link, Moe! |
Cricket | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:47 am     Thanks for the posts Moe & Ginger. This article said exactly what many of us feel. Quote I mean, look at the example it sets for all future ''Big Brother'' contestants. It basically says, be nice, boring, have no personality, and you can win it all. It might make for a good morality tale, but it doesn't make for good TV. After all, remember the first season of ''Big Brother''? No, didn't think so. End Quote I posted about this exact same thing. The message the other houseguests sent was for the next people to be yet even MORE plastic than these yahoos were. We know that some of them were tapped for the show without even auditioning. Without Danielle's real feelings and her and Jason's teamwork, this show would have been dull, dull, dull. CBS will hopefully take heed of what happened and next year get some 'real' people in there and not manipulate the players so much. Let everything show and DO NOT let the houseguests see the tapes once they are evicted and the evicted houseguests should not be able to talk to each other until the final show. They should be sequestered (in individual rooms) until they vote and then they can discuss among themselves what they think about the final 2 houseguests. I don't know what they'd do about the live feeds though, because we HAVE to have those, lol. However, I feel the live feeds more accurately portray the house, as the TV shows are heavily edited. They mix days, etc. and some things look like they happened different than they actually did. |
Zachsmom | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:58 am     Having the HGs sequestered after their eviction..they would not know who truly played the best game..they would then have to go more by their emotion on who they "felt" played the best game.. Dani would have won this if she followed her own advice.."Keep your eyes open and your mouth shut!" and "Be innocent as a dove and sly as a snake" she opened her mouth and didn't remain innocent.. Lisa fits the "Be innocent as a dove and sly as a snake" better than Dani did..THAT is why Lisa won! |
Ark | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:59 am     Lycanthrope, I LOVED Lisa's personality. I think she's a wonderful, sweet girl. I tuned in to see a game played though. If people are going to win by just being the nicest to the people that you live with, why not just go to a college dorm and ask them who is the most popular person on the floor and give that person the money. It's just plain boring, that's why. I know dozens of Lisa's in my real life. When I tune into one of these shows, I want to see the gears turning and people working hard towards a goal. I don't want to see my friends and neighbors sitting around everyday, playing cards and then at the end of three months everyone deciding that the person that spent much of her time in bed or quietly in the corner was the nicest and should be rewarded. I want to see everyone work for that reward. |
Curtisahahahaha | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:01 am     Sometimes people win games because they are lucky. What's wrong with that?! What's wrong with a little good, old-fashioned luck? |
Mystery | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:07 am     Danielle had a strategy but I don't see that she displayed any more "personality" than Lisa did. Maybe EW and I have different definitions of the word. |
Espen | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:12 am     I am not sure how Lisa is that much different from Ethan, Vecipia or Tina in the way she played the game.. All three of these stayed under the radar for a long time, and then started playing the game for real when it mattered, yet always tried to remain likeable.. Ethan to me is the most similar, though he was perhaps even more like Jason than Lisa.. I wonder if this person would have still written this article if it was Jason who won? Although I agree Lisa didn't really do much strategywise until Eric was evicted, I feel she played very focused after that, and never took her eyes of the ball, even though many people took their eyes off her (well, strategically that is, she wasn't exactly hard on the eyes in other regards, even though luckily not many have claimed that is why she won). |
Pugholio | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:13 am     There only job was to be in the house. They were not there to entertain us. We find whatever pleasure we can in watching what they do. It's up to the editors of the TV show to generate "good TV" BB1 was excellent. Sorry if there wasn't enough conflict and turmoil for those who thrive on that. To make it to the end, you HAVE to get along with each other. So, the ones who did that best get put down by the Jerry Springer fans who want to whole show to look like a Springer show. BB2 was so disgustingly obnoxious I bailed after 3 weeks. This one was getting that way for awhile. Go fight amongst yourselves, if that's what you want. I see enough backstabbing, gloating, and lies in the real world. I turn the TV on for escape and enjoyment. |
Cindyluvsroddy | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:13 am     "I have a totally opposite take on this year's game. Why is it so bad for someone to win if they have a SWEET personality?? Lisa didn't have NO personality, she was just LOVEABLE. Where's the harm in that? Why do some folks want to come down on her for being a genuinely caring person. What did it for me was the phone call competition. She has a HUGE heart, and she fully deserved the cash. I'll defend her to the end. And the houseguests obviously felt the same..." I agree 100%!!!!! and to add quite a few Dani supporters are sore losers!! |
Battlestar | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:16 am     ---cricket, and how would CBS enforce the evicted HGs not having any access to information regarding the house?? I for one wouldn't like it, if a HGs wants to win, then their strategy has to include the HG on the outside...getting them to support you inside the house and keeping their support when they are on the outside |
Laura11103 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:20 am     Good article. I tend to agree but not completely. I mean, Lisa did win that oh so important HOH and Dani let go of the key. If she had held on things woulda been different. I do think Dani deserved more votes and was shocked that Amy voted against her too, I thought Amy loved her so much! |
Battlestar | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:24 am     Amy loved her inside the house.....Danielle lost her vote the same way she lost everybody else's. When one sees oneself mocked by a supposed friend, support is removed. |
Bastable | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:25 am     Prediction: Next year, ASP will load the show with a bunch of evil, backstabbing narcissists--just to avoid a repeat of the snoozefest that happened last night. They're going to start casting nasty, folks. Lisa is an extinct breed. |
Zachsmom | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:26 am     From your lips to ASPs ears Bastable.. |
Cc1976 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:35 am     "I wonder if this person would have still written this article if it was Jason who won?" Excellent comment, Espen! And of course the answer is no since the author of the article states he was pulling for Jason to win....which sort of undermines the whole point of the article. |
Bastable | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:38 am     This all goes back to something that we've been saying for two seasons now: AJS shouldn't have eliminated the audience from the show. The final winner should be determined BY THE AUDIENCE. We see everything. It's the only way to make it fair. The HGs determine the final two. We pick the winner. |
Wigglepuppy | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:44 am     I guess you didn't read the article, cc1976 (a good year, the one I was born in). This critic was rooting for Jason BECAUSE he was playing the game with such an original spin ("last american vigin") He loved D, because she was playing the game and made the show fun to watch. Lisa was boring, dumb ("beautifulness? please!) and lucky. It's harsh, but it's our opinion. If you like "nice" people on TV, watch PAX. Give me Danielle and Jason, Richard Hatch, or Tara and Wil any day over boring people like BB1! |
Toolhound | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:48 am     Why all the Lisa bashing? Haven't you people watched the boxer that starts slow and lets his oponent tire himself out and then go in for the knockout. How about the race car driver that hangs with the pack untill the last few laps then he pulls ahead. It is strategy and it is a winning strategy. I think Lisa's strategy made Big Brother 3 great to watch,because Jason and Danielle were so sure of themselves they never even thought that Lisa would knock them out!!! |
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