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Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Since chess seems to have dripped into one of the other threads and I would like to continue it without pushing the "off topic" envelope, I started this.

For the record, I believe Roddy already knew how to play chess. I think he let Lisa win that day as he was still telling her how pieces could move.

Can anyone comment on who LEARNED how to play chess in the house other than Lisa? It is amazing to me to see some of those people in that house for 2 or 3 months with nearly nothing to do and NOT at least learn the game to try it.


I am a chess player. Have been all my life. My Dad showed me how to play and we had a chess board set up in the LR as long as I can remember. I didn't beat him till my teens. Once I knew I could beat him I usually let him win because I knew it made him feel good (or at least win one out of 2, or 2 out of 3.)

Chess is a pure game, pure strategy. It is liberating in that when you sit at the board, all you have to worry about in life are those little pieces on the board. Under stress, chess is one of the great relaxation solutions (for me) because it allows me to think of nothing else but the chess game.

I was glad to see them playing chess in the house. I'm surprised that BB didn't use it in one of the comps.

Oregon or Whit, maybe we should have a chess game in the general section under games? May be fun?
(P-K4)

I have more to add, but I'll be back.

Loppes

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7,
I noticed the folder for Chess a while back, but I didn't have time to play and read BB3 posts. I may check it out in the following weeks. I've played chess most of my life too. It is pure game and pure strategy.
Lon

Draheid

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO - the game of chess is one which requires a good amount patience and mental strategizing abilities. Several HG's that chose to not learn (or play) the game may have tried it in the past and found they weren't interested. Or, perhaps, some were afraid to become 'involved' in the chess game and maybe reveal a little of their real game strategy in discussing the chess game they are participating in. My son (9yo) likes to play chess and we occasionally play a game or two, (he's more into video games, but that's another story) however, neither of his sisters nor his mother have any interest at all in the game.

Card games, on the other hand, usually require far less mental effort to play and would be less likely to cause one to lose focus on the primary game they were in.

JMO - FWIW

Lancecrossfire

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor, there is already a chess game going on:) There is a section of the board called "Games". If you look at the Topics page, it is just below Mole. If you use the view new messages feature, just add "Games" to your favorites.

Actually they are on the 8th game. They start a new thread for each new game. It isn't just pure chess though:) We have what is called a peanut gallery--all the folks who are watching each match. We have all sorts of food brought in by the group, we do goofy things to each other, but through it all a game of chess does go on. Every so often someone will put up a chess board picture to show the current status of the game.

Ketchuplover has played all 8 games, winning 6. The only person to beat ketchuplover left after his win, so KL kept playing. It is pretty laid back--no time limit to make a move or anything. Anyone can challenge the winner as each game is played. If you go over there, you will find that everyone has either a clipart from the board or a symbol they have picked up or liked that they saw on the board.

chess thread--8th game

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lance! Thanks! Sorry I didn't see that there. My bad.

Oh, that does look like fun.

I've got a bit more to add here but I gotta run out for a while.

I'll be back.

Keep 'em flying!

Ocean_Islands

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 04:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's just a way to find out how smart/logical people are.

Oregonfire

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for starting this thread. I haven't played in years, so am rusty and need a review of the rules. I will lose many times and am getting that out of the way right now.

A review, tell me if I'm right/half right/wrong:

The rook only slides forward and to the side, not diagonal. Are they best kept in the back rows to protect the king?

The knight moves up three, and over one?

The bishop moves diagonally? Something does.

The queen is a bad*ss that I never learned to use for maximum effect. Guidance on how to unleash the power of the queen would be much appreciated.

The King can only move one square at a time, right?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! I'll post this over there too.

Whit4you

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup Roddy was definately a chess player prior to entering that house... don't know how good a chess player but I have a feeling he's good :)

Whit4you

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor - I definately wouldn't play chess in public right now lol... it's been like 10 years since I last played...:) Perhaps we could play a private game sometime - but geez I'm sorta afraid to get back into Chess again I lived and breathed it for a few years, it's pure strategy and skill and that's my kind of game...>:)

Scarlett

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 05:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The knight moves only two spaces up or sideways before changing direction to it's left or right. Hope that helps. I have to add, that my son has become quite the little chess player recently. He plays his pawns better than any other person I have ever played. I never knew they could be so powerful when worked together.

Oregonfire

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 06:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks, Scarlett. I just got my wooden chess board back from my Mom's house. I bought it in Poland, and all the pieces are these cute little peasants and fuedal lords. I wish someone had taught me to play when I was young. Kids are the best, fastest learners. All us folks over the age of 15 better just give it up!

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 08:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
In one of the episodes of HBO's "The Wire" there was a great explanation of chess. 2 drug dealers were playing checkers w/chess pieces because they didn't know how to play.
Another drug dealer comes over and tries to explain it to them. He does it by making comparisons to the street drug trade. I thought it was a fine piece of writing.

I wish I had a transcript to post here.

Anyone else see this?

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 08:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't believe in the "take your hand off the piece means you moved it" thing.

When I play, if you move and you want to take the move back BEFORE I move then it is ok with me. I don't want to win because you missed something--- I want to win because my strategy was better and no matter where you moved you could not escape.

Ketchuplover

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 09:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yo Tobor 7

How's Ryan? Ryan Seacrest.

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
KL--
How do you know a Ryan Seacrest?

Ketchuplover

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
He's one of the hosts on American Idol :)

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't watch the show.
No relation. Don't know him. Sorry.

Whit4you

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well there are a few times of games.. the kind when you play with someone closely matched...and winning...matters.. in that case - the 'rules' I've generally played by is - if you take your finger off a piece...and then immediately want to put it back that's fine... but no you can't a few minutes later move it back... for a few reasons 1) it's easy to see things watching the OTHER player then working out their strategy... and 2) it's going to totally throw off my stragey if a minute or two after you made your move you then move it back... but it isn't like so serious that 10 seconds after you take your finger off you can't put it back LOL.

As far as the Knight goes .. just think of the letter L - PIVOT the letter L in any direction

Tobor7

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Usually I will even let you take your move back after I make my move.

"Oh no! I didn't see that."

"Oh, you didn't? I'll tell you what. I'll take my move back and you take your move back and see if you can find something better."

Not really a RULE, but it is usually how I play it. I'm sending a quiet message. "I don't care where you move. You don't have a position that can win."

I guess I got this from my father. He would let me go back many moves and still I would not win. Now I play the same way. The victory is that much better. Not only did you win a game of skill, but you won it on BRUTE SKILL and not on an overlooked move or mistake.

Today, when I play my Dad, I let him go first. After his first move I tell him... "You just lost, you want to take that back?"

It is always a good laugh.

Whit4you

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL ya - the guy who taught me to play - would tell me 'checkmate' after like my 2nd or 3rd move :)

(and it would be eventually of course..LOL)

Oregonfire

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess that's the chess eqivalent of Roddy's PB&J question to Danielle: I don't care what I ask or you answer because you already lost.

Scandalous!!

Tobor7

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy said once that he thought Gerry plays chess like he was playing BB.

I guess if BB had a CU of the board for every game, I'm sure someone would have kept a chess notation record of every game and we'd have our Shelby Lyman giving analysis! LOL


So... Roddy knew how to play chess before he got in the house. He let Lisa win that game in question. He didn't tell her he threw it right?
I don't remember.

Whit4you

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well there are some similiarities between chess and BB for Roddy to have compared Gerry's chess game and his BB game, but there's more differences then similiarities. If you think ahead 3 moves in chess. that's thousands of possible options... 3 moves ahead in the house would be a few dozen options... well till they introduced the power of veto - that changed the equation exponentially LOL.

The way Lisa played in the house - I think she'd be a good chess player but she seems a bit to 'antsy' to ever really get into the game.

I have a question for those chess players here - do you usually play a 'timed game" - I've tried them - don't like them at all... especially those professional type timed games LOL.

Tobor7

Monday, September 30, 2002 - 01:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy said that Gerry is not aggressive and waits till you make the mistake (chess comments).

Speed chess is bad for the brain.

But a timed game is good-- few hours for each side. I have a chess clock and use it when I play at my house, but most don't have the clock so we just play by "shame" time.