Tobor7 | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 08:58 pm     I'm sure the producers had "cast types" they were looking for when they started casting for BB1. When BB2 happened, they had to add two more people. This is my observation (as a 1st glance) of the casting types and how they evolved. Some are obvious, but after you do the obvious ones, it gets harder. I'm hoping some of the bright lights out there have some better thoughts... Here goes... George = Kent = Jerry Brit = Krista = Amy Josh = Mike Boogie = Josh Cassandra = Monica = Dani Karen = Nicole = Lori Jordan = Shannon = Chiara Curtis = Will = Roddy Jamie = Bunky = Marci n/a = (add new type) Autumn (type didn't work/go opposite) = Lisa Mega = Justin(type didn't work/go opposite)= Jason n/a =(add new type) Sheryl = Tanya Eddie = (try to fix obvious flaws) Hardy = Eric |
Bmh | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 09:25 pm     Tobor..nice analysis..but I got a few suggestions I see Autumn fitting in with the Brit and Amy group more than Krista..Krista was more of a party girl and really wasn't that needy..a little bit more trashy..Brit/Autumn/Amy all seeked attention constantly and were very needy thats why I think Autumn belongs in that group Chiara wasn't orginally suppose to be a Jordan/Shannon character..she did that to herself Sheryl was NO Tonya..Sheryl was way more classy and more motherly..but SHeryl did say herself..she seems the most in common with Tonya..so I guess they should be grouped together And explain to me how Curtis and Will are grouped together..that doesn't make any sense whatsoever..I see a Curtis/Jason comparison myself Hardy and Eric grouped seems okay but I think you should add Josh(bb1) to that group..I would put Eddie in with Mike Boogie and Josh..not sure about this one though And the way CBS casts African-American women is very unique..I would by no means but Cass,Monica,and Dani in the same group just because of the color of their skin.. Cassandra was very classy,quiet,guarded,and was a calm influence in the BB1 house.. Monica was inspirational,loud,funny,reserved,but also kind of wild...neither of the 2 were strategic or manipulative whatsoever they were just there.. Dani on the other hand was a little more complex...strategic,manipulative,dishonest,gameplyer...So Dani could almost be in her own catergory or could be joined up with Will in some ways..but I dont think Dani/Monica/Cass had anything in common Also Lisa is very much in her own catergory..she was suppose to be "the " of BB3 but that was a total opposite..and she turned into a sweet innocent girl..so Lisa is pretty confusing JMO |
Tobor7 | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 09:55 pm     Interesting BMH. Thanks. It is hard to separate what they turned out to be from what was intended by their "type". I'll answer the one I'm sure of the most: Curtis was supposed to be the "smart professional" w/advanced education, going to be a lawyer. Will the same. Advanced education- he was going to be a doctor. They couldn't find a lawyer or doctor for BB3, so Roddy was the closest to this "type" I think. Think about Monica and how Dani was the first few days. Dani reminded me of Monica. Lemme think on Cassandra, but I remember her interactions with Mega a lot. I can go along with Brit/Autumn/Amy. BMH said: "Chiara wasn't originally suppose to be a Jordan/Shannon character..she did that to herself" Oh, I think they knew exactly what she was going to be about. The profiles they put in the promos & on the web aren't necessarily what they really think each person is. They don't want it to be too predictable. Eddie was an angry man when he entered the house. He had the biggest personal transformation during the show. I personally think he changed AND we got to see it. I thought it was very interesting. I'll think more on your comments and come back to this later. |
Bmh | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:21 pm     Good point Tobor..Curtis and Will were both intellectual types..but Will was "evil" lol..even though BB2 was way more competitive and strategic than BB1..I never really saw a dark side to Curtis thats why I see him fitting in with Jason..because although he was smart like Will he was also nice and kind like Jason..Will was def. Dr. Evil! And as for the Dani/Monica comparison I can see what you are saying Dani and Monica have more in common than Cass does with either of them..but as a whole Dani was more of a player..Monica and Cass were just there never really made a impact on the actual game itself..whereas..Dani was all over the place..playing the game 24/7..not to mention her darkside |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:43 pm     I agree with alot of those but it should be Eddie / Mike Boogey / Josh |
Tobor7 | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 10:54 pm     Ok Whit-- I can go along with Eddie / Mike Boogey / Josh Then who was in Hardy's heritage? AND I never really saw Will as evil-- He just played one on TV. (LOL) I just don't think evil could be as funny as he was. (LOL) Plus, I think the educated doctor thing is what got him the job. I guess you have to ASSUME that they did not want to cast tow of the same "type" so they all have to represent a different type. The producers have a pretty good idea which one will be gone first as well. I think we'll be able to figure this out. ANY SHRINKS IN THE HOUSE? CALLING ALL SHRINKS! |
Tobor7 | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:04 pm     Can we all agree on this one: George = Kent = Jerry |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:14 pm     I'd agree with that if BB didn't see George's insane wacko crazy side prior to the game.. all other aspects of those 3 yes.. but Kent and Gerry didn't have the insane crazy wacko side that George did.. it's more like George/ Will / Marc (or at least how BB might have seen Marc prior to the game) This only assumes they saw the real George prior to the game.. if not yes definately George/Kent/Gerry |
Whit4you | Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:18 pm     FYI this one you have totally pegged Karen = Nicole = Lori I remember thinking a few days into this years BB - Lori is this years Karen... (she didn't stick around long enough for us to see it though) |
Tobor7 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:36 am     Ok. So we got: Karen = Nicole = Lori George = Kent = Jerry let's work on the Jordan = Shannon = Chiara (if not Chiara then who?) |
Sunflowr | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:14 am     >>Then who was in Hardy's heritage?<< Roddy was this year's Hardy. Eric could fall into this group too even tho they are from the same season.. As for Karen-Nicole-Lori.. I dont see Nicole in that set up. I think it's more like: Karen-Sheryl-Lori there will always be the older man and the older woman. |
Tobor7 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 04:38 am     Interesting Sunflower--- We're trying to get a consensus here. And remember we're keeping in account how the producers must have cast them BEFORE they saw them in action on the show itself. Let me know which ones you agree with so we can set them aside. If you suggest Karen-Sheryl-Lori then where does Nicole go? And how do you set-up the lineage for ???=Hardy=Roddy Not saying anyone is wrong here. Just trying to create a lineage for all the characters in all 3 shows. The producers didn't have anyone to compare BB1 to. But imagine them talking during the casting of BB2. "We need a George" or "We need a Jordan" Fill them in a bit more and we'll all try to agree on something here. |
Cablejockey | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:21 am     CBS does the same thing on Survivour---they have their cast list to fill up too. |
Smartypants | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:37 am     This is a great thread. I applied for BB and rec'd one interview. Since then I've tried to analyze casting and agree with your ideas. BB appears to go by looks first, then general lifestyle and finally certain "quirks". I look similar to Lisa but unfortunately I am older than she is, I do not live in CA and I am married (all negative lifestyle traits for BB). I would love to have been on the show but have since realized that I don't fit enough of the requirements. When BB3 started I matched the players up almost exactly as you did Tabor and was only slightly surprised after we got to know the "true" person inside the prescribed traits. And an aside.... isn't it interesting that there have been so very few (true) blondes on the show? Makes me wonder who defines the "requirements"?? :-) |
Bmh | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 09:14 am     No I still say you got Karen/Nicole/Lori pegged Tobor And George/Kent/Gerry I agree with Whit in saying Eddie/Mike Boogie/Josh def. go together Brit/Autumn/Amy Where would you put Krista?..I see her fittin in with Lisa..although Lisa wasn't as trashy and alot more sweet The Shannon/Jordan fit..Lisa was suppose to go in this group but Chiara claimed it in a weird sort of way..because Chiara was more of a ho than a b*tch you know what I am saying? |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 09:46 am     Well I honestly think BB was trying not to have a bb2 and 3 like BB 1... so to really do this properly what you need to do is find the matches between BB 2 and 3 and then SEE how many of the orignals they kept... (original types....) I think they kept the Eddie type... George type... Karen type... Josh type... Brit type... etc... I think they left off a few of the types which is why we are not able to make the perfect matches... |
Ginger1218 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:31 am     Ok, so how does Jami fit in with Bunky and Marcellas??? Jami was more the pageant girl like Amy, but weirder. Amy had the neediness but Jami didn't. Was Jami gay? Was I not aware of that??? |
Jazzmaroo | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:51 am     Here's what I came up with. Keeping in mind, the first year they only had 10, the next two yrs they had 12. Cassandra / Kent / Jerry (Intellectual) Will-Mega / Nicole / Lori (Dominant-Opinionated) Jordan / Shannon / Lisa ( The Witch) Jamie / Hardy / Amy (Mr/Miss Universe contestant) Brit/ Autumn / Chiara (Needy) Karen / Sheryl / Dani (Mother Figure) Curtis / Bunky / Jason (Kind-hearted, Warm) Eddie / Justin / Josh ( New York tough-guy) Josh / none / Eric (Nice-guy) none / Will / Roddy (Charismatic) none / Krista / Tonya ( Low Morals ) none / Monica / Marcellus (Angry-woman) These were catogorized by me based on personality type ONLY, not on race or gender. Even if they may not fit into that category I placed them in, I just wonder if this was a category CBS could possibly have put them in. Just guessing |
Ginger1218 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:02 pm     LOL, I love the last one Jazz (giggling) |
Jazzmaroo | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 12:15 pm     Ginger, I don't know if anyone else thinks of them like that, but that is what I think of those two. They're mad-at-the-world arrogant type personalities. |
Xcentric1 | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:21 pm     I thought Dani was an exact replica of Nicole. Both are control freaks, sex obsessed, married, and seemed to feel entitled to the win. The only difference is that what Nicole said to their faces, Dani said behind their backs. Nicole went whacko when threatened. Dani was only threatened towards the end, and she did go whacko. I waited throughout the whole season for someone to put Dani up so we would see her freak out. We had to wait for the end, but freak out she did. On a personal note, I always liked Nicole and felt sorry for her. I didn't like Dani from the first complaint she had about Gerry's hand washing, or lack thereof. If it bothered her, she could have/should have gone to him quietly and told him. She purposely (I felt) make a mountain out of a molehill to discredit him to the others. JMO of course. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 03:38 pm     yes that is your opinion..but I dont find many comparisons between Nicole and Dani Nicole was a complete psychopath..and freaked every chance she got..whether she was nominated or not Dani was alot smarter..and never went crazy..she strategized and got emotional towards the end..but never got crazy like Nicole did.. And we have exact opposite opinions I guess..cuz I absolutely hated Nicole..and I love Dani |
Rosa | Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 11:43 pm     I agree with X as we did see Dani freak out in the last two days, it just took longer than Nicole and it is true that both Nicole and Dani saw themselves as the Alpha females and intitled to win the big money. This was very clear to me in both their personalities. I watched with amazement as Dani kept getting drunk and finally freaked out and started humping the bed. Lisa even tried to stop her several times to no avail. Then in the insuing days to come, Dani became almost paranoid at the thought of facing the hg's and ended up hiding as Lisa answered the door. Very strange behavior and very weird Nicole like behavior at the end game. |
Tobor7 | Monday, September 30, 2002 - 01:46 am     Where are we now with this... I'm losing track... Have we been able to agree on anything yet? |