Archive through September 19, 2002
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Archive through September 19, 2002
Maris | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:48 pm     Nope dont need a 12 step program, I am pretty good at transitioning and I will transition myself right into Survivor. I am surprised that you never saw such vitriol and animus, I guess you werent watching Danni on the feeds. Well you didnt miss much. |
Carigsby | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:50 pm     Maris, don't forget the bile. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:57 pm     Twiggyish said, "Wendo, my family has "bug eyes" and it isn't thyroid related. There are many people who have slightly bulging eyes. sheesh. I bet her mother had them, too. You can't say for certain that is what causes it, even though we know she has a thyroid condition. Yes, I know about thyroid conditions and the symptoms with the eyes." Ok Twiggy, I see your point. "Possibly" would be a better word; that her bulging eyes could *possibly* be a result of her thyroid disorder. However, the main thrust of my argument is the use of a physical characteristic to suggest that there is something wrong with Danielle. Said physical characteristic is something that she cannot control or change, and should not be used as a basis to say she's an evil person. That was my point. Sorry it wasn't clearer. Thanks. |
Loppes | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:58 pm     I'm not worried about the 12StepPrograms, I worry about the 13Steps. Wendo, I think enough people have posted to you to make it clear Dani's bug eyes aren't the result of her thyroid. If I recall, you made that assumption. Truth is there is no excuse for the vile and "bile" behavior of Dani. If she had any class and integrity, she would have won the game without all her evil doings. Lon |
Hermione69 | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 02:58 pm     LOL, Maris and Carigsby, you handled that with more humor that I would have! I tried to respond to that post and found myself speechless! As someone who is pretty neutral right now, I'm flabbergasted at how personal some people get to other posters just because they have different opinions! |
Wendo | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:13 pm     See, Loppes, you're making an opposite assumption that her bulging eyes AREN'T a result of her thyroid disorder. As I stated in my last post, I clarified that it was a possibility. Obviously there is no way to know for certain whether it is or isn't. Is it a possibility, yes. Is it certain, no. Additionally, I have not made any excuse for Dani's behavior (thyroid problem or not). Where have I? Point to a post. (Nor have most Dani supporters.) You keep stating that I'm making excuses when I clearly have not. I think most posters would agree that I have specifically stated (numerous times) that there is NO excuse for the childish gossiping. So again, please stop putting words in my mouth. I would argue that most Dani fans have been upfront when it comes to her gossiping and trash talking. We've stated that she does it, it's bad, and will hurt her in the game. We don't excuse it. However, since this is an opinion thread, I am going to post my opinion that there IS a double standard when it comes to knocking Dani for her trash talking when ALL of the HG's have done it. Some worse than her, some less than her. You don't have to agree, but I have a right to post my opinion. |
Maris | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:18 pm     well I say we all move over to the official I like Danni thread and post our opinions there. Come on folks, lets put on a show........... |
Twintown | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Hermione69: There is no BALANCE amongst this Dani Hate Crew. If she saved a baby from a burning building they would find some way to spin it into a negative. I am not supressing anyone's opinion, (and by the way, that tactic of saying EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO AN OPINION is constantly used by the Hate Crew) I'm just stating mine. Danielle has faults, as do others in that house but this crew is fixated on Danielle and the comments about her are as bad as what they espouse to hate about her. |
Beserkknight2 | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:20 pm     How about Dani's own opinion of herself today? "D: you know I consider myself an average little girl, but then I watch myself on TV, and I think, "Hey, I'm pretty cute!" Ewwww - cute is NOT a word that comes to my mind... |
Richardfan | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:22 pm     To All Danielle Fans/Supporters/Defenders: You now know what it feels like to have been a Roddy fan while he was in the house. Hey, now we have something in common, go figure, maybe we can be friends! My Opinion of Danielle, you ask? I don't like her |
Zachsmom | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:30 pm     Thank you Richard fan!!!! I have been thinking that ever since the tide turned..when <sob> Roddy was evicted!! Wanted to post the same thing..but..well..didn't want to rub it in.. I know how it feels to have your favorite bashed trashed and rehashed!! You now know what it feels like to have been a Roddy fan while he was in the house. I am still a Roddy fan..and he still gets reemed!! zachsmom closes her eyes and wishes she was back 4 weeks ago..and amy used the veto..and Dani was gone instead..we'd have Roddy and Amy at the end!!! GO RODDY GO AMY |
Hermione69 | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:35 pm     Twintown, I guess as someone who got lumped into the Dani-hater category by another poster (not you) because I commented on some of her negative behavior, I don't like to see such blanket assumptions made. I like Dani fine. I like all of the HGs that are left in one way or another. I dislike all of them in one way or another. I think that Dani is remarkable to have escaped nomination this far. She has masterminded a lot of the ousters. But I also agree with those that assert she could have done all of this without talking about others the way she has. I think that is going to cost her the grand prize. Since I got lumped with the "haters" by one of her more assertive fans for voicing this, I'm uncomfortable with posts that define people on the basis of their opinions. Am I making sense? |
Loppes | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:37 pm     Wendo, Yes, you "state" and "clarify" quite often. You don't like those of us who vehemently dislike Dani posting in the I Love Dani folder, but have no problem coming here and dissecting posts. Wendo, nothing personal, but you seem to have a penchance for triggering off people who dislike Dani. Lon |
Monalisa | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:39 pm     Danielle said early on.....I am non-confrontation (translation - I talk about people behind their backs). How do I know this, I am the same way. However, I usually do my "ranting" to my husband, he understands I have to get it out somehow. After my "rant," I can then speak rationally to the person about the incident....or let go of it until the next time it happens. If I were in the house, without hubby, I would probably be doing the same thing, especially if my audience were so obviously entertained by it. Does it make it right, no. Do we all do it....yes. Do I think it went overboard with Gerry, yes. Was Danielle the worst concerning Gerry, no. Jason and Lori seemed to be the only 2 uncomfortable about Dani's talking. Lori called her on it and Jason usually leaves the room. If I were in the house, I would ask Danielle to please let me in on the laughs if she has an imitation of me, which undoubtedly she would. I think she is funny. IMO, I think any who are so offended by Dani talking "behind their backs" should send her an e-mail directly and not post it to a public forum when she isn't even here. Again, that pot and kettle come to mind. But again, this is just my opinion. Now, does any of this make me a terrible person. If you ask anybody who actually knows me, I don't know of anybody who would think that....well, maybe my sister's ex-husband....he still resents me for knocking the living daylights out of him after I found out he beat my sister and her baby....oops, that was one of my "confrontational" moments. Now, I must go before CPS comes to take my kids, because I talk about people. At least I'm honest about it. |
Meggieprice | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:39 pm     This thread is not titled I hate Danielle. It invites a debate about opinion. If it did say I hate Danielle I would not think of coming in to "put on a show." That's doesn't seem too nice a thought. Sort of like a lynch mob. |
Loppes | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:40 pm     Zachsmom, Well said! Lon |
Lisad | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:45 pm     Richardfan/Zachsmom - I agree. Roddy got reamed a zillion times over. I don't think he did 1/100th of all the stuff he was accused of here! It was bizarre. Marci got it pretty bad for a bit too. However, I don't quite remember anyone countering the reaming. It was almost agreed upon by the majority of the board. LOL What does Dani's facial expressions be they medical related or the fact that she's animated have to do with anything? LOL I have a Jim Carey type face myself. My husband's face is dead stoic. So what! LOL Am I spending time on boards watching people argue about a person's eyes they saw on TV? Yep. Do I desperately need to get a life? Yep - IMMEDIATELY! I thank the board for helping me realize this. ;) |
Monalisa | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:50 pm     Lisad...so funny. My husband and kids always say..."watch out for the eye" or "uh-oh, I just got the eye." Another thing I am guilty of. I'd better watch out, I may need therapy after this....lol. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:53 pm     Loppes "Wendo, Yes, you "state" and "clarify" quite often. You don't like those of us who vehemently dislike Dani posting in the I Love Dani folder, but have no problem coming here and dissecting posts." Excuse me Loppes, but if I make a mistake, then I fully own up to it and correct it. That you are now pointing it out as fault is ludicrous. If you want to personally attack me, fine, do it out in the open rather than veiled like the above comment. Secondly, where have I stated I don't like people who dislike Danielle? Again, point to the post. As far as the I Like Dani thread, the mods set the parameters for it, not me. If you have an issue with it, take it up with them. However, I've never even made such a comment, so your point is inaccurate. As far as posting in this thread, it's an OPINION thread. That means pro and con posts, whether you like it or not. I have a right to post here and debate the posts. "Wendo, nothing personal, but you seem to have a penchance for triggering off people who dislike Dani." Nothing personal? Ok. Sounds pretty personal to me. As far as "triggering" people, I comment and make opposite opinions here and debate the posts. That's the point. If people are going to get upset, that's not my fault. I'm not emotional here, just posting my opinions. Frankly, it sounds as though you're telling me I'm not allowed to post here. If so, that's a job for the mods. |
Loppes | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:55 pm     Wendo, Yes, I can hear you typing out a complaint email to summons the mods right now. They should be here soon. Lon |
Sanfranjoshfan | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:57 pm     Richardfan, Zachsmom - I SO "ditto" that!!!!! In fact, I remember someone posting how they thought the Roddy haters would find themselves in the same boat as us Roddy lovers when the tide turned on *their* favorites. Suck it up and deal! A LOT of folks have a very low opinion of Dani. Keep in mind, too, that many of you go on about how strong the anti-Dani posts are. Some of that may come from the Dani supporters who keep saying that Dani isn't so bad and saying that they see justifiable reasons for her negativity. The non-Dani-loving crowd are simply defending their (our) positions. Many of us would not be sharing our anti-Dani feelings over and over if we weren't being ASKED to defend them over and over. I say she's hateful and I don't like her. That's my informed opinion. If you ask me why, I will just give the same reasons as I have given before about why I feel that way...unless of course, she adds to her repertoire and gives me brand NEW reasons to not like her. If I am asked to justify my feelings about Dani (or any other no-Dani-lover is asked to justify his or her position), then please don't blame us for replying. (I would just be trying to make my point to people that apparently have not understood it previously and who ask for my reasons again) JMO |
Wcv63 | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 03:59 pm     To Zachsmom, Richardsfan and other Roddy fans: I've known for some time what it is like to be a part of the minority when it comes to posting on a message board. It's a daunting task to defend someone when the majority are so vehemently vocal in their disapproval. I've made it a point to let certain posters who seemed to be getting overwhelmed (even though I wasn't on the same side) that I appreciated and admired their tenacity in coming to the defense of the favorites. I was for one brief shining moment part of a majority on the board and it was certainly an easier task to debate when I had so many to back me up. It was fun....then in the blink of an eye, the tide turned and I was sitting right back on lonely street. BUT, although we Dani fans may be a minority, we are a fierce and vocal contingent!! Loosely translated that means we have big mouths, big opinions and no qualms about letting loose on either. Hello topic! Dani rocks!! run away, run away! serpentine, serpentine! |
Wendo | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:00 pm     Loppes said, "Wendo, Yes, I can hear you typing out a complaint email to summons the mods right now. They should be here soon." And you say you're not getting personal Loppes. Ok. |
Loppes | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:06 pm     Wendo, Are you baiting me? I'm not biting anymore, I'm done with you. Lon |
Denecee | Thursday, September 19, 2002 - 04:08 pm     If you are against Dani, you are against Jason. So it is written, so it is law. |
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