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Archive through September 23, 2002
Justshirley | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:54 am     I, too, have come to the conclusion that this is nowhere near as slam-dunk a final vote as many are assuming. I think Danielle has got herself at least a tie, if not an outright win. For-Sure Lisa: Eric Roddy Tonya For-Sure Dani: Jason Josh Undecideds I firmly believe will vote for Dani: Lori: In spite of the hand-washing argument and the "cuckoo for Cocoa-Puffs" DR entries, I think that Lori will ultimately vote for Dani over Lisa. Lori is a single mom who will identify with Dani doing what she did for her family. Lori also respected and bonded with Gerry more than anyone in that house, and I think she will not look kindly on Lisa's comments about him. Gerry: I know he has said that he wouldn't vote for Danielle, but I cannot see him voting for Lisa after the hurtful comments she made about him. I think he will make it clear to Danielle that, while he doesn't necessarily approve of all of her behavior in the house, that she played the better game. I also think the "parent" thing will factor in to his decision, as well. Chiara: There are a multitude of reasons why Chiara will vote for Dani and they all have to do with Chiara's desperate need to be the center of attention. Lisa and Eric are the sweet, "real" couple that Chiara so wanted she and Roddy to be. Lisa is young, beautiful, well-liked by the public and HGs alike. Lisa helped evict Chiara and then went on to establish very close ties to both of Chiara's men, especially Jason. No way does Chiara want her good time at the cast party ruined by having to watch Lisa play queen of the ball. Remember, too, that Chiara has been spending quite a lot of time with Josh. People keep talking about the possibility of Jason campaigning for Danielle, but I think that Josh is the one most likely to be trying to sway EHG opinion toward Dani, and I bet he's doing a good job of it. So, with those votes right there, Danielle has assured herself a tie. So, it all comes down to Amy and Marcellas. How appropriate. They are both complete wildcards, in my opinion. I know they have both had extremely negative things to say about Danielle and have both indicated that there is no way they will vote for her. But they are both so extraordinarily emotional and dramatic, I just think it will depend on the moment. I really think either of them could go either way. I only hope that ONE of them votes for Danielle, because I would really, really hate for it to come down to an AC tie-breaker. I don't think any of us has any business getting a say in this decision. I know that's not going to be a very popular statement here, but I really think that the people who lived it should get to decide who played the best. |
Jadeygurl39 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:30 am     Ok I will give my : Lori-Lisa Tonya-Lisa Josh-Danielle Eric-Lisa Chiara-Danielle Gerry-Danielle Roddy-Lisa Marcellas-Lisa Amy-Lisa Jason-Danielle I think Josh is happy and is into Merit. His comments about Roddy/or he suggested people he trusted in the house turned out to be untrustworthy. I see him sticking by Dani. I remember Marcy got close to Lisa. I think he will preceive her being more true to herself than Dani. For Marcy that seems to be it, ethics... Gerry will not forget the DR with what Lisa said. I can't see him giving her a vote when she used the P word. For his students' sake, he'll vote for Dani. I think Amy will vote for Lisa because when Marcy hurt Amy who was at her side? It was Lisa consoling her. I believe if she reviews all the tapes she will feel more loyalty to Lisa. I see in my crystal ball Lisa coming out just a wee bit ahead but enough to be 500 k richer....both played a great game to be where they are now... Who knows. Just my thoughts.  |
Bailey | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:09 pm     Why are so many disregarding what the hg's themselves have already said? The only one I'm guessing with here is Lori, but I think she showed what impresses her and what offends her through her own actions. Here's how and why I see the vote going...... Amy... Lisa (she stated her opinion of Dani has changed) Eric...Lisa Roddy..Lisa Tonya..Lisa Lori...Lisa (guessing, but she made it clear she doesn't like backstabbing when she made Dani confront Gerry) Chiara..Lisa (in her chat she said of the 4 that were left, she'd vote l-Jason,2-Lisa,3-Dani,4-Amy. Doesn't anyone believe her?) Marcellas..Lisa (he also has made that clear since he's been out of the house) Gerry..Lisa (he stated he was most offended by Dani.. said he never took Lisa very serious. Josh.. Dani Jason.. Dani Lisa wins 8-2.. I'll be surprised if the votes go any other way. |
Sherball | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:11 pm     Ok let me see what I can come up with: -Lori- will vote for Dani. I think she can identify with her. Though they aregued over the gerry thing, Dani voted to keep her. Lisa did not. In the exit interview lori seemed pro danielle ohhh in her cbs exit interview. -Tonya- voes for lisa-duh -Eric- Lisa -Josh- Dani he respects her game. Realizes it was just a game. -Chiara- i think she votes for Dani. Remember the whole Lisa/kiki thing. She does not like lisa. I think Dani has her vote. -Roddy- obviously a vote for lisa. -Jason- obviously a vote for dani. -Marc- I think he will try and be dramatic and take it to dani. Remember lisa voed to keep him. -Amy- think she can be easily swayed. I think she might vote in a block with marc. I dont know though. She could go either way, but lisa for now. -Gerry- I think he goes for dani. He undersands where she is coming from RE family and all. Dani needs it more. It will either be a tie or a 4-6 vote either way. This one will be close, but in a tie i think lisa takes it. Oh well I like either one, but would vote for dani. |
Pepper | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:19 pm     My predictions: Lisa will win with 6 votes: (1) Marcellas (he was betrayed by Danielle); (2) Amy (she now says Danielle is the devil after seeing some of the tapes and because Dani made fun of her behind her back); (3) Eric (no brainer); (4) Roddy (he won't vote for a she-devil); (5) Gerry (the hygiene thing); (6) Tonya (doesn't like Danielle because Dani criticized her parenting and behavior). Danielle will get 4 votes: (1) Jason (again, no brainer); (2) Josh (says Danielle deserved to be in the final two); (3) Lori and (4) Chiara (because Lisa did not vote for her to stay in the house). YEAH LISA!!!!!! |
Battlestar | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:24 pm     I have an strange feeling that even though Marcellas was 'betrayed' by Danielle, he will bite the bullet and vote for Danielle as the 'black' winner. Making history with a black woman winning Survivor and a black woman winning BB will be too much for him to ignore He wanted 2 black people in the finals, so if it can't be 2, he'll still want her to win. |
Cliotheleo | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:54 pm     I've gone back and watched the final HOH competion as a meter for judging how the jury might vote. As you remember, the evicted HG's were asked to describe Jason, Lisa and Danielle with one word. Here's how I see things based on what they said.... (I think we can assume Eric and Jason's vote will cancel one another out. Whenever we weren't told the jury's real answer, I'm going with what I think is their most likely desciption.) Lori... Lisa is "mysterious" Danielle is "funny" her vote is a toss up Tonya.... Lisa is "Fake" Danielle is "conniving" her vote seems to be a toss up, but she had some really negative things to say about Danielle in another interview, so I think she'll vote for Lisa. Amy.... Lisa is "sweet" Danielle is either "fertile" or "precious." At first I thought she was describing Jason as "precious" leaving Danielle with "fertile," the nicest thing she could figure out to say to her. But being that Jason is a virgin, maybe she meant HE was fertile leaving Danielle as "precious." So Amy's vote is a toss up Josh.... Described Lisa and Dani as either overconfident or child-like. Hard to tell by that, but I feel pretty sure that he'll vote for Danielle. Chiara... Lisa as "insecure" and Danielle as "strong". She will vote for Danielle Gerry... Lisa as "lucky" and Danielle as either earnest or energetic. Gerry seems to be implying that Lisa didn't deserve to be where she is, Gerry will vote for Danielle Roddy.... Described Lisa as "uncertain" and Danielle as "soulless." He will vote for Lisa Marcellas... Lisa and Danielle as either "guarded" or "instinctive." Another toss up So that leaves us with (not counting Eric and Jason) 2 definate votes for Lisa, 3 for Danielle with Lori, Amy and Marcellas as the swing votes. |
Cmc209 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:40 am     Not sure how my prediction is going to play out, but for BB3 I predict the jury will vote: Dani - Josh (he said in a clip that she played a really good game) Jason (for obvious reasons) Lori (not sure about this vote, but she might vote for Dani) Lisa - Eric (for oblivious reasons) Tonya (trying to re-live her youth) Roddy (the whole devil thing probably upset him) Amy = ? (no clue how Amy will vote), Marc = ? (he will vote for himself), Gerry = ? (maybe he'll vote for Dani), Chi = ? (maybe she'll vote for Lisa) |
Spunky | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 01:38 pm     These past 2 day the Jury may have changed their minds and they just had a group discussion. Please just keep them sequestered and not see or hear Danielle or Lisa until voting night. I think Amy may have voted for Jason and not Danielle (as she said) but now Jason is gone, so I believe Amy will vote for Danielle. So again, this is how I see it: Danielle has: Jason, Josh, Gerry, Amy Lisa has: Eric, Roddy, Chiara, Tonya, Lori, Marcellas However, Chiara and Marcellas could choose Danielle shoot, I said this three days ago, how is it possible that we're gonna have a tie!!!! |
Adrian | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:55 pm     I'll say it again, Danielle will win it all. (Moderator please revive that thread I started entitled "Fearless Forecast: Danielle will win it all!".) Danielle 6 - Lisa 4 Danielle: Jason, Amy, Josh, Marcellas, Lori, Gerry Lisa: Roddy, Eric, Chiara, Tonya Josh, Lori & Gerry (+Amy, Marcellas & maybe Roddy, Chiara) will vote for the best player of the game. Amy will vote for the "real devil". Marcellas felt betrayed by Danielle but will eventualy agree that he was just outplayed. Do I need to explain Jason's vote? Believe it or not. Lisa has sure votes only from Eric and Tonya (and not Danielle only getting votes from Josh and Jason). I'm not kidding.  |
Lycanthrope | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:00 pm     This is how I see it based on what has been said by the evicted HG's in interviews and such: Eric: Lisa Roddy: Lisa Tonya: Lisa Marcellus: Lisa Lori: Lisa Amy: Danielle Chiara: Danielle Gerry: Danielle Jason: Danielle Josh: Danielle A five to five split I think with Jason and Eric being vetoed(if they do that this year). If it comes to a viewer vote, I'd have to go with Lisa. I'm pretty sure on Jason's, Josh's, and Amy's vote for Dani since Josh doesn't think Lisa earned that spot, Jason has already said he's voting for Dani, and in Amy's exit interview she said she is rooting for Dani. Likewise I'm also fairly certain of Roddy's, Eric's and Marcellus's vote for Lisa since Roddy said the one person he doesn't want to win is Dani, and Marcellus said in his exit interview that he was rooting for Lisa. Eric's vote is a no brainer. The other 4 could go either way and I'm just guessing on those. |
Whit4you | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:04 pm     Guess I better get this done before they come back and start talking about jury questions... Ok lets see For sure for Dani: Jason Josh For sure for Lisa Eric Marc I think for Dani Chaira Amy I think for Lisa Roddy Gerry Lori Tonya But I think the final vote will be - 5-5 I think at least one of my Lisa peeps will vote for Dani...just not sure which one (lori perhaps) |
Crazydog | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:08 pm     That Amy interview was conducted before she learned of Danielle's machinations. On Amy's website Amy had a chat where she said she felt betrayed by all the things Danielle said about her and would support Lisa. Although it was quite some time ago, both Chiara and Gerry said in interviews they would not support Danielle. My predictions: Lori: Lisa (likes nice people) Tonya: Lisa (Dani's horrible comments) Eric: Lisa Josh: Dani (good gameplay) Chiara: Lisa (played by Dani with girl power promise) Gerry: Dani (grudgingly - better player) Roddy: Lisa (Devil comments) Marcellas: Lisa (betrayed by Dani) Amy: Lisa (hurt by Dani's mean comments) Jason: Dani I see 7-3 Lisa. To me, sure votes for Lisa are Eric, Tonya, Roddy and Marcellas. Sure vote for Dani is Jason. All Lisa has to do is get one vote of Amy, Lori, Chiara, Josh or Gerry because I think she blows Dani away in AC. Unless they change the rules re voting, I think Lisa wins easily. |
Wrat1010 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:17 pm     Cliotheleo: Interesting speculation of yours about how the ex HG's will vote based on their one-word comments from the last HOH. But keep in mind that each ex-HG was asked to submit both a + and a - comment but that Big Brother didn't tell us which was which. In Chiara's case, I wonder if they mixed a "strong" as the + for Danielle with an "insecure" as a - for Lisa... I would like to have heard what the - comment Chiara gave for Danielle before I can infer that Chiara would vote for Danielle over Lisa. As for Amy, it's been established from her recent Entertainment Weekly interview that Amy would prefer that Lisa win over Danielle, and others have brought to my attention that Amy was always calling Jason "precious" (before she switched to "sugah" I guess) and it doesn't seem Amy's style to call a man fertile. The Marcellas comments were the strangest... I couldn't tell if guarded or instinctive were supposed to be + or - traits (or one + and one -)coming from him, and that makes it even harder to assign them to Danielle or Lisa. I'm guessing he called Lisa's playing style instinctive and Danielle guarded about her alliance with Jason... maybe he chose these words to make the contest harder for Danielle to win |
Ark | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:09 pm     My two cents: Lori - Danielle I know Lori and Danielle had a confrontation in the house but I don't think Lori holds a grudge. In the final HOH, Lori said that Danielle was funny. I'm guessing that Jason was polite & Lisa was mysterious. That says that Lori doesn't feel like she really made a connection or knew Lisa. I also think that the fact that Danielle is also a mom and wants to better the lives of her kids with the money will score points with Lori. Amy - Lisa Amy can hold a grudge and probably will. Interviews since she's left the house indicate that she is very hurt by things Danielle said about her. In those interviews she indicated that she wanted Jason to win. Jason is no longer there so she may decide to forgive Danielle but in the final HOH she said that Lisa was sweet. I'm guessing that Jason was precious and Danielle was fertile. On her website, she stated that she now thinks Danielle was the devil and Roddy never did anything wrong towards her. I'm giving her vote to Lisa Chiara - Danielle Chiara admitted when she was in the house that she didn't really connect with Lisa and Lisa wouldn't be the type of person that she would be friends with outside the house. I think she'll admire Danielle's playing of the game because she would have liked to play the game the same way. In the final HOH she said that Lisa was insecure. I'm guessing that Danielle was strong and Jason was perfect. Chiara likes strong women. I think Chiara will vote for someone that she thinks is strong over someone she thinks is insecure. Roddy - Lisa While Roddy might be able to admit that Danielle played a hell of a game, I'm thinking that his ego is too big for him to even admit it to himself, much less anyone else. He will feel much better about himself if he punishes someone than he will if he admits that someone was better at something than he was. Remember, before he left, he had to tell Lisa that she never really beat him at Chess, he let her win. In the final HOH didn't say anything positive about any of the remaining people. Danielle was soulless. I'm guessing that Jason was inexperienced and Lisa was uncertain. Eric - Lisa I don't think he could ever step foot outside his front door if he didn't give Lisa his vote. In the final HOH he said that Danielle was spontaneous and Jason was a push-over. If it were Jason & Danielle in the end, I think Danielle would get his vote but he better vote Lisa. Marcellas - Lisa OK this one could go either way. Marcellas said that at the very beginning he had picked Lisa as someone that he would be friends with. He spent time, after leaving the house with Lisa's friend and it looked like they had a good time. He is the first one to admit that he didn't play the game well strategically though so he may give Danielle the vote because she did. I don't recall Danielle saying anything negative about Marcellas personally, only about his game playing and he has to agree that his game playing wasn't all that great. In the final HOH, he said that Jason was attractive. I'm guessing that Danielle was instinctive and Lisa was guarded. In exit interviews Marcellas said that if the final two were Josh & Danielle, he would vote for Josh. I have a feeling that in the end, Marcellas will forgive and vote for Danielle but I'm giving the vote to Lisa here. Tonya - Lisa In the final HOH Tonya said that Jason was sexy. I'm guessing that Danielle was conniving and Lisa was fake. It doesn't sound like she likes either one of them, but her segment on the show focused on what a good mother she is and I think that was all a show for her custody battle. I don't think she'll give the vote to Danielle because Danielle questioned her mothering abilities. Also, since her boyfriend just left her, I think she's going to be doubly bitter right now and that will come out in her vote. Gerry - Danielle First, I don't think Gerry is the type to hold a grudge. He's used to people (kids) saying things in the heat of the moment that they may regret later. I also think he will appreciate someone that played the game really well and while Lisa may have started playing well in the last few weeks, she just sort of coasted at the beginning. I think that most of the time that Gerry was in the house, Lisa was in bed, either sick or with a broken toe. In the final HOH, Gerry said that Lisa was lucky. I'm guessing that Danielle was earnest and Jason was energetic. Gerry understood that this was a game similar to Chess and I don't see him voting for someone that was just lucky. To top it off, Lisa good-bye speech to Gerry was the meanest one aired all season. Josh - Danielle Josh and Danielle were kind of friends in the house, in fact Danielle didn't want him to leave. Lisa spied on Josh and Gerry? and then confronted Josh and they had the whole yelling match with each other and Josh said in the Diary Room that he couldn't stand Lisa. In the aired interview with Josh the other night, Josh said that Danielle was playing the game brilliantly and said some not so nice things about Lisa. In the final HOH he said that Jason was spineless. I'm guessing that Danielle was over confident and Lisa was child like. Jason - Danielle Need I say more? So, in the final analysis, I see the vote being split 5 to 5 with America's Choice determining the outcome. In that case, I see Lisa as the winner. So, Lisa wins unless my gut feeling about Marcellas is correct and the final count is actually 6 to 4. Can't wait until Wednesday. |
Bmh | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:16 pm     Ark I am liking your analysis..god you have no idea how much I want you to be correct..Danielle should win! |
Spunky | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:46 pm     Looks like Lisa lost Tonya's vote with her balloon thing! bmh, you may get your wish yet!!! |
Mystery | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:47 pm     I was surprised to see in the Jason thread outside the house that Jason said he was going to be watching tapes before Wednesday's show. I would've thought he'd vote for Danielle without even looking at tapes. |
Bmh | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:52 pm     What happened Spunky? |
Spunky | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:52 pm     He may have wanted to watch for a bit of fun. He'll vote for Danielle for sure. At least he's honest even with a knife in his back... |
Spunky | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:54 pm     Bmh, looks like Danielle got another vote: Tonya. Remember Amy and Lisa playing with the balloon for their breasts (imitating Tonya), well, looks like Tonya wasn't impressed....(someone heard Lisa commenting on it.. after questions). |
Pulk | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:56 pm     I dont know how you can suggest Chiara will vote for Dani to win when D was the one who kept Lisa in the house then went running off to L and told her how Chiara voted. Then Dani went back to Chiara and thanked her for voting to keep Lisa screwing C even more. |
Bmh | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:57 pm     Hmm..that is interesting..god for Tonya this is basically voting between lesser of the two evils |
Pulk | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:58 pm     One of Lisa's first DR comments on Tanya was about her breats, something like "thats sad". |
Momiee43 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 07:27 pm     Iput this ona different thread but thought this one might be better choice. When I went to Fantasy League this is what I saw. Before Lisa and Danielle battle it out for the $500,000 prize, the ten evicted HouseGuests will return to vote on the winner. If all your players have been kicked out and you think the Fantasy League is over for you, THINK AGAIN! 100 points has been awarded to your team for each of Final Two Houseguests that you have on your team. In time for the finale, the Fantasy league is giving EVERY player a chance to score big points and climb up the leader board! Here's how: Your roster has been wiped clean. All registered players have the opportunity to restock their rosters with 4 new players, this time selected from the EVICTED HouseGuests returning for the final vote. 100 points will be awarded to each HouseGuest on your squad who casts their final vote for the eventual winner of BIG BROTHER 3 -- a possible bonus of 400 points! In the finale, this will be the only way to score points, so make sure you pick your team accordingly! |
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