Favorite vs. Favored to win: A Spin Off
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Favorite vs. Favored to win: A Spin Off
Oregonfire | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 01:31 pm     It's been quite some time since I started a thread around here, but I got inspired in Jaggar's thread about favorites vs. who you wanted to win. This is the place to go through each hgs and add any final comments. I don't care if you go off topic. I'm all about the off topic. That's a really tough question. I have to run down all of the HGs now, because I can't help myself. In no particular order.: 1. I really liked Chiara, maybe was my favorite, but I never expected her to win it all; I just enjoyed watching her escapades! The person who was probably most-maligned by being taken out of her natural habitat. 2. I really liked Marcellas, thought he was funny with the ducks, but he got on my last nerve around the time of the Amy nomination speech, and I didn't just didn't picture him in the final two. Self-involved to the nth degree. 3. I started out very much disliking Amy, but pretty much liked her by the end. I never expected her to win it all, but she was very good at the comps, and probably the luckiest non-finalist HG (trip to Mexico, 10 grand, got to kick out Chiara, which must have felt pretty darn good, even though I wan't happy about it.) I really respect that she fought the Roddy mind meld and did not use the POV on him, which completely changed the game. 4.Josh never really bothered me; I always thought he was a funny, unusual guy. Never pictured him in the finals. 5.Gerry was boring for me; pretty much a bump on a log. I did feel sorry for him for getting picked on so much. Never saw him in the finals. Ed. to add: He did make some choices that really shook up the game--the Marcellas veto, breaking up Lisa and Eric--so I guess he was a pivotal player. 6. Lisa was boring for me, and I though she was sneaky at first. Turns out she was sneaky, but in a good way. I always had her pegged to win. (She was the good snake.;) 7. Roddy I liked at first, but grew to dislike after watching him rip Chiara a new one numerous times. I really did NOT want him to win in a major way, so when he was booted, the rest was just gravy. 8. Tonya: Kind of neutral about her. Another one that I didn't expect to win. Her incessant FOTH-inducing prattle was annoying. Never pictured her in the final two. 9. Lori: I couldn't stand the sound of Lori's voice, and was pretty happy she was one of the first to go. I think she was a nice person, but out of her depth in the game. Never saw her going to the end. 10. Danielle: At first I was neutral about Danielle; I thought her impressions were kinda dumb, and that her butting into every conversation was so obvious and annoying. I grew to have a lot of respect for her, and if there's anyone I'm happy to see in the final two, it's Danielle. *The one who I would've liked to see win the game, just to sort of stay on topic.* 11. Eric: Boring beefcake, untrustworthy, cocky, presumptious. Was very confident about seeing himself in the final two with Roddy. I did think that he had a good chance to get to the finals. His sleep talk was pretty entertaining. 12. Jason was always just sort of there for me; a nice guy, but a tad boring. I did enjoy the Dani-Jason dynamic immensely. An odd, interesting team. I did expect him to be in the final two, but think he was best able to handle being in third place without being too bitter. A nice guy all around. |
Jagger | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 02:21 pm     My thoughts on each of the hgs Jason, well what can I say I liked the way he acted in the house, always a gentlemen, showed true integrity till his closing closing comments to Julie. Roddy, I loved the way he played the game, you knew you were in for some excitement when he got going. He could make anyone think just the opposite of what they were thinking when they first started to talk to them. I wanted him to go far, but not at Jasons expence. Danni was a great game player, knew how to convince people to her way of thinking. She played a great game, good enough to possible win, my only negative comment about her is that she did too much trash talking of the other hgs. Lisa, never really got to know her, she didn't allow people to really know her, she kept quiet too much. Amy, liked her attitude most of the time, but her continuous butting in, and loud mouth turned my stomach. Liked her southern little drool. Liked the idea she was there to have fun and get on camera. Mars was funny at times, but I just couldn't handle his whining and his ripping on everyone. Loved some of his one on one convos with himself. Gerry, could never really associate with him, nothing againt the guy, but I just didn't care for him. I did like the idea that he was determined to lose some weight. Chiara, I loved her wild side,especially how she was teasing Jason, but I couldn't stand the way she hooked onto Roddy and what ever he told her was gold, she needed to think on her own. Eric, did not leave much of an impression on me, however I did love his sleep talking and he did seem to have a sence of humor when he was in the mood. He spent too much time with Lisa Tonya, she was really not around long enough for me to make any decision on her. Could tell though that she was a wild one and probably liked to party. Someone that would be nice to know on the outside of the house. Lori, I enjoyed her morning convos, would have been nice to see her stick around longer to get to know her. Her downfall was she didn't know how to play the game. Josh, last but not least, I loved the way he played the game, I was really sorry to see him leave, he was my favorite at the beginning. I never knew what he was going to do or say. I disliked the way he picked on Gerry though. I think Josh would be a great guy to hang out with outside of the house. |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 02:27 pm     Thanks for stopping by, Jagger! (a special guest appearance by the Fonz on Laverne and Shirley comes to mind) |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Doesn't *anyone* want to comment on all of the hgs one last time? I want to read your comments! I am now shamelessly pimping this thread, so someone throw me a friggin' bone here. I'll let it die after this if no one is interested, I promise. Maybe the title could be changed to "One Last Look at all the HGs" or something, mods. |
Zachsmom | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:03 pm     I'd love to oregon..but I am afraid I'd get moderated.. but since you wanted a bone and I don't want this thread to die.. hmmm Lori..I was sad to see her leave so soon..would have really like to seen more of her.. Tonya..I was glad to see her with her kids on the last show.. Eric..cutie and I hope him and Lisa work out..I think they are PERFECT for each other.. Josh..I wish him and Merrit well..I didn't like him but when Furry posted on the board I found that he must have some redeeming qualities to him cause she REALLY stood up for him.. Chiara - <moderated before I am moderated> lol..just kidding..if anything I wish that Chiara would find someone to love her..and that person is herself..once she loves herself she will find that she is a lot happier in life..She's a beautiful girl and I wish her well.. Gerry- I loved this man..If I were in the house I would have spent a great deal of time with him..I love associating myself with people who have vast amounts of knowledge..I think it's so it rubs off on me.. Marcellas- Funny and not so funny..I don't want to even go where my thoughts take me with him.. Dani- I wish her luck in life..not on of my favorites..but I do wish her well.. Lisa- Beautiful and smart and as whip..contrary to what some might think! I hope she wins it all and I hope that her and Eric are forever.. Jason- Where in the world can I find one just like him..only a few years older..lol..I think he's a peach and I am thrilled that one of US was on the show!!!! Amy- My stunning queen..the one I wanted to hate but couldn't after I saw her on the live feeds..she has kept me in stitches..I hope she has someone in her life who is a true "friend"!!! last but not least..I saved the best for last.. Roddy- What can I say but I loved the guy! Intelligent handsome and a wonderful sense of humor! He made me smile everytime I saw him and I missed him when he left..I wish him happiness..though..he won't find true happiness until he meets me!!! He'll then feel his life is complete.. So Oregon..here's your bone..  |
Jagger | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:11 pm     Well Oregonfire I thought it was a great idea for a thread, but than again, I've only started one thread on this board so maybe my mind wasn't working correctly. I know everyone is just dying to let everyone else know how they really feel about the hgs. |
Oregonfire | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:15 pm     Oh boy--what's sad is that Zachsmom and I have been through this routine before! (I am not posting the dog gif this time! I have to have some pride.) Thanks for stopping by. Don't worry about it Jagger. I used to be a thread starting queen around here, but I'm a bit of a has been these days. Some catch on, some don't. |
Llkoolaid | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:29 pm     I'll was looking forward to this thread after reading in the other one that you were going to make it. I'll give it a try: Lori: I wish she had of stayed longer, I think she would have made a differance in what Roddy and Dani were able to get away with. Tonya: I didn't care for, she was too trashy for me, but we really didn't get a chance to know her Josh: He was playing the game. I like that. The butt slapping was annoying, I would have decked him for that. Eric: Hot, but sexist. Gerry: I liked him but he didn't have a chance with all these beautiful people. Chiara: Didn't care for her, kind of desperate in her obsession with Roddy Roddy: Played a great game, his mistake was making too many deals. Marcellas: I don't know if I was laughing with him or at him but he made me laugh Amy: Could be obnoxious but there was something about her that I just loved. Kind of a spoiled little girl getting a taste of reality. Jason: I want one for each of my daughters. Lisa: Sweet but cunning, I found her whiney and boring at first but liked her when she began to play Dani: My favorite player, loyal to friends ruthless to enemies. Love how she played the game. Trash talked a bit too much but which one didn't. |
Essence | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:31 pm     I'll take a stab at this... Lori...just never got a chance to know. Seemed a bit scatter brained, but might have been a good player. Tonya...never really cared for. Too catty for me or something. Really don't know what it was. Eric...I liked him. Would have liked to see him go further in the game. Seemed like a good person. Josh...a bit over the edge for me. Never really warmed up to him. He should have waited for Fear Factor. One show with him would have been enough for me, instead of the whole summer. Chiara...I guess she was OK. I was neither one way nor the other for her. She tended to be a bit over the top sometimes. Gerry...I liked Gerry. I think the others were too hard on him. (I agree he should wash his hands after using the restroom and before cooking.) Roddy...didn't like him in the game (because he was my girl's 'enemy'), but he seems to be OK. He does have a few denial issues, but it looks like they all do. Marcellus...love, love, love this man. I hope he's not too upset with Danielle. He did it to himself (he tried to play her, but she beat him to it). Amy...she was OK. She could stand up for herself a bit more, but overall I liked her. Jason...I'm not on the 'love bandwagon' like most people. I do like him, but I guess not as much as others. He's a sweet young man, and I'm sure he'll go far in life. Lisa...I'm neutral when it comes to her. I won't be upset if she wins, but I'd rather her not. If she does, she deserves it, and I wish her well. I think she's nice, but she has a dark side too. Just a tad bit of it came out in the beginning of the game, and then she kind of went in to a shell. Danielle...I really like her!!! I hope she wins this game. She has played a great game. Others in the house didn't even see it coming. Those are the reality players that I like the most. Yes she has some flaws, we all do; but I don't believe she's the evil that people say she is (just as I don't believe Roddy is the devil ). |
Toolhound | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:32 pm     Lori= I did not like her but felt a little sorry for he. Josh= The most annoying person I have ever seen. Eric= I think Eric a pretty nice guy but a little self centered. Jason= He is a nice boy that has a lot to learn to be a man. Gerry= Reminded me of every teacher I ever had that I could not stay awake in his class. Chiara= I really liked her she is very funny, but a little crude. Marcellas= A waste of Oxygen. Give him a mirror and set him in the corner. Roddy= One of the most self centered people I have ever seen. Danielle= I hated her then liked her then hated her. Amy 1st= I hated her. Amy 2nd= Kind of liked her. Lisa= Liked her from the begining and still do. Tonya= Liked looking at her as long as she didn't talk. |
Beegee | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:00 pm     I don't want this thread to die until we've heard from more people. I think the problem is that it sounds like hard work! But I'll share my opinions. Lori - Liked her very much. I admire someone who is a little older being gutsy enough to go on these shows. She had Danielle's number about trashing others behind their backs before most of us did. Tonya - She never interested me, and wasn't around long enough to get to know. She seemed superficial, but the segment that showed her with her kids was very sweet. Eric - Seemed like a nice guy, and I had no idea people talked that coherently in their sleep! I was sorry to see him go, but when he did it resulted in Lisa becoming more interesting. Josh - A decent human being, but overplayed the annoying role. Scenes of him outside the house are probably more what he's really like. I like him better out of the house. Gerry - I really liked him - again, maybe because he had the guts to go in as an older person. I could see how he annoyed some of the HGs, but I kept wishing they would stop and listen to him instead of assuming he was irrelevant. He got annoying because he had to try so hard to get anyone to have a conversation with him. He treated the other HGs with respect and was given little respect in return. Chiara - great personality if channeled in the right direction. Her bawdiness would have worn me out if I'd been in the house with her, but her genuine fondness of Jason redeemed her somewhat. Roddy - I liked him a lot. I didn't see him as evil at all, just great at relating to people and finding a common ground. He was one of the few who befriended the unpopular Gerry and Josh. Maybe it was for selfish motives, but I still liked him for it. Like Gerry, he was one of the few in the house who tried to elevate the conversation. Marcellas - entertaining and fun a lot of the time, but a real cruel streak that bothered me a lot. Always colorful. Amy - I didn't think I'd like her, but she grew on me. I began to see her more negative attributes as coming from insecurity rather than snobbery or meanness, yet at times I thought she was amazingly self-assured. She would take me by surprise because just as I thought I knew her she would let down her guard and show a new side of herself. I thought she was fun and full of personality. I admired her poise during all those times when she was nominated and finally evicted. It made me want to root for her because she is a good sport. Jason - my absolute favorite in the house. I hope my sons grow up to be like him. Take every nice thing that's been said on this board about Jason, and I agree with it all. 'nuf said. Lisa - wow! What a dark horse. I always liked her okay because she seemed nice enough. Then as the game progressed I liked her more and more - the way she tried to comfort Amy and looked so sad on Amy's behalf, how she seemed to genuinely fall for Eric, the way she aligned herself with Danielle after Eric left the house. But what really impressed me was how calm and collected she was in the boat. The girl showed a depth of determination that we didn't know existed. Danielle - She worked the hardest and smartest except for the trash talking and the drinking last night. She was my favorite at first, but all the trash talking has made me like her less and less. Still, I do admire how well she played the game overall, and I like the side of herself that she let the HGs see. She said early on something to the effect that you can think you know Danielle and not know anything about Danielle. She has proven that true. However, I have a feeling that if there were no game at stake she would be a good friend. |
Victoriafla | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:24 pm     Dani- I wanted her to win until maybe the middle of the game, then I changed my mind. Lisa- She is my favorite, always liked her Marci - Liked him in the beginning but then couldn't stand him Chaira- never liked her, to vulgar. Tonya- never liked her Amy - Liked her from day one Gerry - He was ok, not my favorite by a long shot. Jason - Never like him, He got on my nerves alot. Josh - Really didn't like him, I think he tried to hard, total turn off. Eric- Seemed like a nice guy. Lori -didn't like her at all! Roddy - Liked to look at him, but didn't like his personality or lack of.. |
Wedge | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:36 pm     Dani: Liked her at some point and lost it with all that "devil" talk and her whacked out attitude Lisa: Never liked the baby-talkers, cant respect someone who plays dumb when we know she is smarter than that. Marcy: Loved him at one point, lost all respect as he trashed everyone and became more self-righteous...he needs a life or at least a hobby Chia: Never liked her much, but she made me laugh. Tonya: ICK. Fake in more ways than one. Amy: Loved the kid. She was always my fave. Gerry: Thought he was the best. Knew he didnt have a chance in there. Jason: In the class with Dani now...a bit to self invovled. Guy didnt even know they were bashing on him when they were! Josh: Couldnt stand him. Tried to play a race card and lost. Bad sport, unattractive, what were they thinking? Eric: A bit to "cro-mag" for my liking, and a bit to simple. Never liked him, hope him the best in his life. Lori: Get over the accent, we dont sound like that...try being yourself...never liked her on the show. Roddy: Loved him on the show. Brought alot of spark to it and had an IQ double to those left. JMO |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:38 pm     OK Oregon. Here ya go. In no particular order: LORI: I wish she had stayed in the house longer. I think she is the one HG who would've challenged Danielle's oft-repeated threat of "going ghetto." Of course, by week 2 that accent would've driven me up a wall. TONYA: I think Tonya was a producer's mistake. She was unknowingly funny, though, such as when she called Amy fake. I think Tonya is a troublemaker, as evidenced by how she would run to Chiara if Amy even glanced Roddy's way. Tonya *could* be a very pretty woman if she toned down the fake everything. And didn't open her mouth to speak. JOSH: I think Josh was annoying, like a fly that buzzes around you and won't give up. I didn't really like him, and I liked him even less after he started smacking all the women on the rear end. I think Josh thinks pretty highly of himself. He was the "class clown". ERIC: I wasn't sure about Eric at first (typical musclehead stereotype, I thought). But I do think his feelings for Lisa are real, and I hope he pursues a real relationship with her. I'm not sure if I would consider him long-term material. He was sweet, and he was one heckuva sleep talker!!! GERRY: Gerry got on my nerves, and often. I thought he had a supercillous tone about 100 times too often, and I didn't like how he spoke AT and not TO the other HGs. I do not think Gerry was near as bad as the other HGs made him out to be, and I think he was treated very unfairly. I think every HG owes him a massive apology. CHIARA: Trash, plain and simple. I don't believe the "I'm a free spirit" BS. I'm a free spirit and I don't put my legs up trying to see what I look like in a sexual position. She also excelled in badmouthing some of the other HGs. RODDY: Interesting man. I would love to meet him on the outside. I think he is charismatic, and I'd like to find out if that's how he is all the time. I didn't particularly like the mind games that I perceived him to play on the other HGs, though. And I don't like how he treated Chiara. MARCELLAS: Now here's the man I thought had the most potential, once he straightened his 'tude out the first few days. And then he hadda go ruin it by going drama queen on me. I did not like how he pulled his version of an intervention on Amy (which he knew would be televised) and I didn't like how he badmouthed other HGs. I had such high hopes for this man. And he blew it by not using his GPOV. AMY: Amy drove me nuts a bit at first; her accent took some getting used to. But I think Amy learned the most from her experience, and except when alcohol or Roddy was involved, handled herself with the most grace under pressure. I would've loved it if she had come in first or second place. JASON: I don't really have much of an opinion of Jason. I respect how he pretty much stuck to his beliefs. But I think Jason is a tad bit wishy washy (although he did show backbone on occasion). He was just a little too "white bread" for my taste; he could've used some spicing up. DANIELLE: I never liked this woman and I never will. I sincerely hope she gets some professional help when she leaves the house. I think she used the game as an excuse for bad behaviour. 'Nuff said. LISA: I liked Lisa from the beginning. I kinda lost faith in her as she got sidetracked with Eric (but remember, she also had a painful sore on her behind and was medicated at the same time). I think she played a great game, and I don't hold it against her for being unable to correctly pronounce or use words, or that she hasn't seen certain items of food. Interestingly, most of the HGs I liked the most ended up the last six in the house (with the exception of Danielle). |
Costacat | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:41 pm     Dang, I'm a wordy thing, ain't I? Wish I got paid by the word! And it appears that I accidentally sorta listed the HGs in eviction order, with Amy in the place for her final eviction... |
Lisad | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 05:46 pm     I don't feel like doing them all. I rooted for the D&J Alliance from the get go. I like Lisa & Amy well enough also. But... GERRY - I feel really bad for how BB portrayed him & how he was treated by the others. Lisa's parting words to him were ridiculous unless he did something evil to her we don't know about (doubt it). I liked him. RODDY - Got a bum rap from this board. Don't see where he lied as stated and DO see where he COULD have lied but didn't. |
Onlyhuman | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 06:04 pm     I'll spend my 20 minutes before heading to the spoiler thread trying to give my opinions... Lori - I admired the way she tried to bring all the Gerry backtalk into the open. The fact that no one in the house seemed to realize what she was trying to do was a foreshadowing of things to come. Tonya - I really believe that people should use their assets to their best advantage in this game. But one night of watching Tonya wrapped in only a towel hold court with the men was enough and all of her conversations convinced me she had little respect for herself, which meant I had little respect for her. Eric - I confused him with Roddy up until the moment of his eviction. Just not enough personality to interest me. Josh - I really disliked his game play, but by the time he left I felt a little sorry for him, especially since he got played by Roddy big time. Chiara - There were times when I liked her and times when she just irritated the heck out of me. Watching Roddy work her over, I just felt sorry for her. Gerry - When others were talking about Gerry, I felt sorry for him. When he was talking, I just wanted him to be quiet. Roddy - His subtle manipulations of the HGs were fascinating to watch...from a SAFE distance. His proclamations of his wonderfulness got on my last nerve and I was happy to see him go, especially when he managed to get in a last dig at Amy on his way out. Marcellas - Loved him when no one would talk to him, hated him when he gave his nomination speech and laughed when Jason evicted him. Enough said. Amy - The first time I turned on the feeds, I wanted to strangle her, since all I could hear was her whining about cheese. Her fondness for Marcellas when the rest of the house was ignoring him and her general self-accepting attitude started to win me over and when everyone got mad at her for wanting one vote I cried along with her. I cheered jubilantly when she came back into the house since she brought a spark that the house desperately needed at that point. She annoyed the heck out of me at times and I occasionally rolled my eyes at her affectations but overall she was my very favorite HG. Jason - I'm not sure why I never felt the Jason love that seems so prevalent on this board. He's a nice enough guy but I never got the feeling that I knew who or what he really was. Watching him serial crush on the various women in the house was a little off-putting, but it was his refusal to play the game for himself when it counted that really disappointed me! Lisa - She annoys me with the baby talk voice when she is talking to men. Her strength & determination during the final HOH makes me have more positive feelings for her than negative. Danielle - She's no Will. |
Northstar | Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 06:26 pm     I'll take a quick bite: Chiara: She makes very apparent the joys and pains of a carefree life. Marcellas: He isn't fabulous in my eyes but he made me laugh once in a while. I hope for him that his mother learns to embrace the concept of unconditional. Amy: Fun-loving belle. Gives up too much of her power to others. Josh: A butt slap for me? Dirtnap for you! Merrit is a cutie. Gerry: Way too much venom spewed his way. Way too much "insight" spewed the other. Roddy: Didn't like him the moment he became a self-proclaimed representative of Alaska. He's in need of a more knowledge. I like that his parents were diplomatic. Tonya: Vegas seems like a nice place for her to live. Lori: Well ya know, just a gosh darn talkative gal. Would liked to have seen more of her, but you can't freak people out the first week and expect to stay. Dani: She is one determined lady. I'm glad she's rewarded with a top two position. Great smile. Jason: Nice guy, loved his giddy dance. Scares me a little though. Eric: Jughead with a heart. Too much frat boy for my taste. Lisa: Seems like she would have been my best friend in High School (20 years ago). I like quiet, kind people. However, remember that movie "Nell" with Jodie Foster? "Jus sway'n in da win". |
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