Archive through September 23, 2002
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Betrayal - Whose was the most Dastardly?:
Archive through September 23, 2002
Sybilbb3oracle | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:34 pm     Dani betrayed Jason by not winning Rubber Boats? Marcellas betrayed Amy? Roddy turned his back on Chiara? Whose betrayal and WHY was the most dastardly? Personally DAni convincing Marcellas that they were putting Amy out; convincing Marcellas that he need not use the Golden POV; allowing Marcellas to believe that he could make a grand stand play of not using the gpov and would still be safe; and then Dani voting him out; still leaving Jason to do the actual eviction vote. |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:58 pm     Irnoically as much as I disliked Marc and wanted him out - I think Dani's convincing him not to use the POV - wins that distinction. Probably the most priceless 10 seconds on reality tv. Next to Nicoles face when she realized Will won (sorry nicole fans) |
Litafreak | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:02 pm     Kiki voting to evict Lisa... that was low. Also, Dani lying to Marc, but I didn't feel sorry for him because of hos actions and bashing to Amy |
Krossd | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:05 pm     Jason betrayed himself by not winning in the boats sheesh! .... Dani did her best, she hung on 4 hours and 23 minutes to his measly 45. Lisa just endured best. That is not a 'betrayal. |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:06 pm     Lita - I woulda awarded Dani the 500 g's right then and there if I could have for that Marc ploy - but I still feel it was the most 'dastardly' thing I've seen on reality tv lol. Rich's letting go of that pole was prolly 2nd .. he soooooooo did Rudy wrong at that moment. |
Marcieb | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 08:55 pm     No doubt, Dannie repeatedly reassuring Marcellas he'd be staying...the most shocking moment in BB was Jason saying, "Well, Marcellas, you should have used your veto because I have to vote you out." I am still floored thinking about that two minutes during an entire season of 24/7 BB3. Second place, the hour or so when Roddy hammered Jason in the HOH to keep Jay from nominating him. It was agonizing--and I'm a Rod-meister fan! Third, Eric, Roddy, Josh, and Jason in the HRD when E was up against Lisa. They all swore their allegience except Jay who was silent. They looked right at him but didn't pin him down...he said nothing, signalling a tacit agreement. E went down, still trusting in J. |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:04 pm     Marcellas not using the Veto was not Danielle's fault. He never blamed Danielle, either. What a Turnipbrain. |
Jimmer | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:17 pm     Dani convincing Marcellus that he didn't have to use the GPOV was by far the worst (or depending on your perspective) the best, betrayal. It was stupid on his part not to use it but she was the major factor in that decision. I don't think that Dani betrayed Jason in the boats at all. She hung on for well over 4 hours. A real betrayal in that situation is what Vecepia did to Kathy on Survivor 4. They had an alliance and she negotiated a deal with Neliah within less than a minute of Kathy accidentally letting go of the idol. |
Trulyscrumtious | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 10:47 pm     I absolutely hate being the only person in a relatively new thread to go against everyone elses opinion, lol, but I thoroughly enjoyed watching Marcellas eat a little crow. Turn-about is fair play in my books. Which is why, as an Amy fan, I was able to look the other way when she (Amy) went off on Kiki and Tonya. She overheard them saying some pretty nasty things about her one night and from that moment on the gloves came off and she dished it out just as good, if not better than either of those two could manage, lol. I guess I relate cause I am the same way. I can be the most pleasant person you've ever met, people used to call my mother Miss manners so you can just imagine how I was raised, lol. But, cross me, and all bets are off. So anyway, getting back on topic here, I think the worst act of betrayal was Marcellas and his treatment of Amy. To me, acting like someone is the next best thing since sliced bread in front of their face, and then trash talking them behind their back is despicable. Dani convincing Marcellas not to use the power of veto was done for game purposes, strategically, it was BRILLIANT! So in the context of the game, who can blame her? Marcellas choosing to humiliate the one and ONLY person in that house who never said an unkind word about him, and remained loyal and trustworthy to the end, for no other reason than the fact that he simply COULD, makes me sick. He took advantage of a vulnerable, emotionally crippled young woman he claimed to adore, and who clearly adored him, and that, to me at least, is unforgiveable. |
Hypermom | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:15 pm     Marcellas didn't need to be convinced too hard about not using the GPOV. Remember, he felt he could win over Amy and wanted to prove it. |
Trulyscrumtious | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:18 pm     Yep, the combination of his MASSIVE (beyond belief) ego and his feelings of superiority over Amy were his undoing, not Dani. It's just reeeeeeally conveniant for him to blame her now. |
Wendo | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:26 pm     Well, while Amy may feel justified in dissing Tonya and Chi because they did it to her first. There is such a thing as taking the high road. I'd respect Amy (and most of the HG's who trash talked) more for that. I really wish that gossiping hadn't been the theme this year. And, I wonder if Mar hadn't been in the house if it would've caught on as it did. Dunno. |
Silversamba | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:40 pm     I think Marc's presence did change things. He is a "germaphobe" so Gerry's hygiene became overblown. He is a trasher and brought other people along. I am not saying that no trashing would have taken place without Marc there, but I bet it would have been greatly dimished. |
Trulyscrumtious | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:02 am     Wendo, while you (and without a doubt, many others) out there might respect her more for taking the high road...Others would not only think her a wimp, but start multiple threads saying just that, lol. It's a lose-lose situation. Damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. That said, on a more personal note, and because I said I condone Amy's bashing in response to overhearing herself being slammed, I have to say this; While I have been known to take the high road on one or two occasions when finding out someone has said something behind my back I wasn't too keen on, it's only been with people I respect and who's opinions matter to me. I'm sorry, but if you are straddling tables (legs spread - and in the air), are prone to spontaneous (physical) reinactments of past sexual experiences, and spreading peanut butter on your boobies...well...then...I'm sorry, but I'm just gonna have to lace right back into you. Life's a b***h and so is payback. |
Duchess | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:17 am     Gotta add Roddy's betrayal of Josh, provoking a confrontation with him, making Josh look like he was the traitor in their alliance, when in fact, it was Josh who had been loyal to Roddy all along. |
Wendo | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:33 am     Duchess, good point. I forgot about that; and they even showed it on Sat.'s show. They aired a clip of Roddy dissing Josh (in the game.) Could this be construed as another lie by Roddy? Did he not tell Josh his last week that he had always been loyal to him, always stuck up for him? Based on that clip, I would argue no, and that he lied to Josh. |
Eden | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:36 am     Wendo, you make a point I have long held. So much of the "bashing" was instigated by Marcellas. I do think he set a catty tone in the house which was, unfortunately, contagious. |
Alaginger | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:06 am     My huge betrayal memory is when Chiara turned on Lisa. Lisa was suppose to be her best girlfriend (with Tonya gone), and she let Roddy influence her into evicting Lisa. That alone is a bit of a betrayal, but the way she went about it, in MHO, was complete betrayal. She put Lisa down verbally, especially in the hammock with Roddy saying something like, "I don't like her. She reminds me of some past girlfriends that are like wahwahwahwah" and she had a nasty look on her face doing the wahwahwahwah part. But to Lisa's face, she acted like they were still best friends. |
Snee | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:08 am     roddy's betrayal of josh, but i figure most of them betrayed each other AND i think they were smart to do so. friends? or winning a game you signed up for to win? |
Maris | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:12 am     Hands down it was marcellas - His betrayal of Amy was ugly. I didnt like Gerry but he owed Gerry some respect for saving him. |
Marcieb | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:18 am     Uh, Moderator, I believe at 9:04 pm on Sunday I was bashed--I was referred to as a "turnipbrain." Oh, wait, maybe Woody was referring to Marcellas. Nevermind then, Marc IS a huge turnipbrain! |
Kellirippa | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:22 am     RODDY ~ jumping out of the fish guts tub, he served Chiara up on a plater with that one. |
Twiggyish | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:29 am     LOL Marcie! |
Spunky | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 10:06 am     Definitely the last betrayal by Danielle when she made a deal with Lisa and let go of the key. Jason had to win HOH because he could not longer count on Danielle. If Danielle had really cared about Jason she would have denied Lisa's offer and kept holding that key until she could no longer hold it. (Lisa would have lasted much longer). She would have come out smelling like a rose had she explained to Jason she just could not hold that blasted key and that she refused to make a deal with Lisa. That gesture alone would have guaranteed Danielle the 500k had she made it to the finals without Jason. |
Beserkknight2 | Monday, September 23, 2002 - 10:16 am     Marc's nomination speech to Amy was the meanest, cruelest and most unnecessary of all betrayals on BB3. Marc takes the cake for the nastiest guy on reality TV for the year - give him the Emmy live on Wed. Amy. |
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