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Strawberry

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 08:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oops I missed it - sorry - Good idea marymc :o)

and nice emphasis Mags3...hehe

Kaili

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I want to see the jury's final reasons for their vote decisions. They showed them thinking about it, but I want to hear, I vote for _____ because _______!!!!

Sia

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, Gramma, that's a fabulous list you came up with for suggestions; I only hope that ASP will take ALL of them to heart.

Rather than sequester the jury (cost-prohibitive), have each evictee vote for a winner as part of his exit interview. The evicted HG would be asked to choose between each possible set of final-two hamsters. No lobbying for votes is possible this way, and I think it would be more fair.

FREE LIVE feeds--and NO CENSORING.

Enforce the rules of the house--and follow through with threatened punishments (like penalty nominations).

Choose a different decorator for the house. (What's with that ugly patchwork rug, anyway?)

Announce that the numbers of cameras and microphones will be CUT by half for BB4, but don't really reduce the number at all--just hide them better! Make the hamsters think they're safe saying anything--and make them less likely to play to the cameras.

Lisad

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma - You HAVE TO send that perfect list to CBS.

I add.... If you are going to do this jury thing (besides what Gramma listed), create some darned RULES for their voting. Whether it be the most liked, the best game player no matter if they lie, etc. Come up with a goal here?

Mikrsmith

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I’m Full of suggestions for BB4,

First I’d like to see CBS make a deal with DirecTV and Dish Network to authorize five Channels to BB Subscribers, I would have actually changed my from cable to have a channel for each feed and the four-way, plus the feeds would have been a lot clearer.

I agree that giving America the POV would be an excellent Idea.

Would like to see the winner of BB make as much as the winner of Survivor, BB lasts over twice as long and on survivor the castaways can walk off and away from someone causing a problem, the BB house is smaller than most apartments and anyone who’s ever had a relationship knows that for your own mental well being you need to get space away from a person causing you stress.

Revealing of votes, I would like to see anything other than the Key out of the nomination box that we saw tonight, I found it hokey, I would have actually preferred to have made the finale two hours long and watch the final two HGs view The DR room tapes of the evicted Hg’s making their votes for the winner. It lets the second place winner see if they were even considered a possibility for the vote and it will cause a lot more tension. If spaced evenly throughout the finale.

Tab

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see only applicants 50 yrs and older accepted for BB4. Now that would be interesting!

Silversamba

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
1. Either have a better mix of ages or just have the young and beautiful ones. I prefer the age mix

2. Have the POV but make it a GPOV and add a monetary incentive(like 1-2K) for using it.

3. Someone suggested the viewers have an 11th vote in some other thread. I like that idea.

4. The psych exams need to be better. Nicole and Marc anyone?

5. Reign in hgs more. There should be a behavior/comment line that hgs can't cross. Issue warnings, penalty nominations, whatever it takes. Backstabbing and the like are just fine for the game, but wishing someone dead ought to have a penalty!

6. Give them more to do! Even if it is just a bus load of board games and such, it would help. I think a lot of the mean stuff in the house was due to plain ol boredom.

7. Have mini-competitions for small prizes like shopping sprees and such.

Silversamba

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
One more-make the new hgs watch a few episodes prior to going in the house-just for them to know the basics of what goes on. Make sure they truly understand that evicted hgs will see the tapes and possibly the internet feeds as well.

Justin42

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Something I had thought about is to try to make the show even more of a mind-tweak than it currently is... do little things to mess with the contenstants (anyone remember Hardy's stolen protein bars?)

To that end-- they should do something kind of like The Mole. Start off with a small prize (say, $100,000). Every time a contestant voluntarily left (be it from insanity, some other prize offer, etc), the grand prize would go up $100,000. Like if you drove someone to try to jump up on the roof and run away (like in the UK) the pot would go up.

Or you could do this another way, say voluntary nominations that people could 'gamble' their portion of the pot-- like each player controlled 1/10th of the final prize money, and as they left, that money would be added to the final pot, unless they volunteered for nomination and put up some amount of money they would personally win if they stayed in the house. Like, say, Josh had $50,000 of the final money at his disposal. He knows people hates him, so he'd put up $25,000 and get nominated. If he left, he'd get the $25,000 as his 'stipend'. If he stayed, the $25,000 gets added to the grand prize at the end. So there would be a reason to stay, and a reason to go. (the greed to get the pot big, vs. a smaller but guaranteed win for you at the end)

Obviously both ideas would need some refinement... but I think it'd make for an interesting show-- if they're going to 'shake it up' next year, I hope they REALLY shake it up and not add a couple minor gameplay changes and act like they spend 9 months figuring it all out. ;)

(and other things-- free live feeds, MUCH more interactivity [weekly chat sessions with AC winners?, America's Choice FREE internet voting for REAL things-- "Should the houseguests get 1/2, 3/4ths, or a full portion of their normal food supply?"], etc-- the fact the show happens "NOW" is BB's biggest strength in my mind; the winner isn't already known to the producers before the show even starts airing-- take advantage of that!! play to it!! get America involved, don't treat it like a Survivor that just happens to take place in a parking lot in the middle of the LA river! :)

Fabnsab

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I would love to see so many of these things happen but the essential one is---

sequester the jury!!!!

Until this happens, we're going to have a bunch of willy nilly politicans in the diary room for fear of being frowned upon by the EHGs. This will become such a boring show now that future HGs know they cannot be backstabbing for fear of losing it all. Noone wants to feel duped so they lash out and don't give that person their vote, whether they deserve it or not. I know my game would be ruined if I were there.

Muse

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Make every POV a GPOV. But still allow the HOH to nominate the replacement if it's used. And eliminate the POV a week earlier.

Make America's Choice when it gets down to the final four a choice between who gets evicted. Either have the HOH nominate two people that the public votes on, or just make the HOH immune, or put everyone on the block. Oh, and make the voting like American Idol for just that week - toll-free voting (allowing you to vote as many times as you want within a certain time period), vote for who you want to keep in. The person with the fewest votes leaves. That form of voting would help keep the interesting three in (as opposed to BB1, where people voted the more outspoken people *out*) and would reduce the effect that friends/family would have on voting numbers (since voting would be free, most of the fans would vote, as opposed to just friends and family members of the HGs and a few of the more dedicated fans who were actually willing to spend money on the vote).

Try to get some people who are more distict individuals, like in BB2. There were too many similar people this season, which led to the six pack (blech). And balance out the sleazy/mean-spirited people with plenty of relatively nice people who still want to play the game. It's tough for a fan to really enjoy the show when they dislike most of the HGs. You need your "villains" and people to keep things stirred up, but casting shouldn't overdo it. And get more people who would think about who played the game the best *in addition to* who they personally liked best when voting, and people who can be sincere (whether that's being nice or not-so-nice) in the DR and in interviews...we don't need a repeat of BB3, with the fake-y sweet finale and 9-1 vote. And look for people with good senses of humor. That sort of thing can really liven up DR commentary.

Wendo

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma said, "3. Choose all HGs based on their applications, background checks and interviews. It's an insult to the viewing public when some are chosen and asked to 'apply'"

Agreed. Not only is it insulting to the viewers, but it's also insulting for those people who sent in applications and went through the process. (For instance, like some people here.) If they're just going to pick people out of malls and bars, then you might as well pick them all that way. JMO.

Tobor7

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Wendo on her above post.

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Every time a HG lies, BB keeps track of it and subtracts $10,000 from their winner's total. (If in the final 2.)
The money that's subtracted, is added to the pseron that is lied to.
So if you lie a lot, you may actually not win any money at all.
Hit 'em where it hurts!

Bigsister

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Lots of great ideas. Having a more equitable mix age-wise is a good suggestion. An IQ test sounds like a pretty good idea, too.

I would like to see BB keep the houseguests more occupied, with week-long challenges or compulsory chores. Give the houseguests a little less time to sit around and bash people behind their backs.

Giving the viewers the POV sounds great. Or let the viewers call in to vote. Let the Viewer Vote represent one vote in evictions and/or for selecting the final winner.

Spunky

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 09:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, stick to leather furniture... we saw a preview in the last show.. looks cool and luxurious at the same time...I would pick lighter color for leather in the living room..

Demeter

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I would like to see more twists. They should ALWAYS expect the unexpected.

Do fire drills in the middle of the night (including making sure any pets are "saved"). Have at least one new "twist" in the game every week. Keep them on their toes.

Do more "secretive" challenges...like the potato clock sabotage in season one.

Reward them well, but also penalize them consistently.

Find a way to let them SING! Leaving out the singing and going to FOTH made for lots of boring time for the feeds. The first season was hilarious when they would get into song fits, plus every year there has been at one or two people with beautiful voices. Let us enjoy them.

Return to less of the pampering of the HGs...set an early wake-up time. No later than 8 am. Return to rationing of the hot water. Let them have a microwave, but get a new basic one that does not have a time clock. Get rid of the clock!

How fun it was in season one when they were surprised that it was air time? It was hilarious.

A scandalous idea would be to occasionally put a new person in the house when someone is evicted. The new person has full voting power and participates just like everyone else, but they have immunity from eviction and do not count towards the final three, they can "win" the other rewards just like all the others, but not the final prize monies.

Air the show four times a week. Do a Monday show. It's a long time between Saturday and Wednesday. A lot was left out or short-cut this year because too much had to be condensed into the Wednesday show.

Of course, let us watch it ALL. Limit the amount of censoring done. What is the big deal if we hear BB, or if we watch them practice, etc.?

Absolutely make BB anonymous to the HGs, get back to when they had to fantasize about the voices they heard rather than "knowing" the names of the staffers and some of the staff's personal lives (like knowing this one or that one is married). Let BB be more mysterious.

That's enough for now.

Joyful

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This is my first post so be gentle! What I would like to see different on the next BB4.
1. Combine food/luxury and HOH together. Choose random teams from a hat. The Teams would compete to win because the losing team would have to camp outside without showering facilities and beds.
2. Winning team has to elect HOH. HOH has to nominate one person from each team. This would keep alliances changing daily and would keep anyone from sandbagging competitions so they could go under the radar.
3. Nix the Power of Veto competion and have a TV viewers choice of who to save. Make this live and give HOH 2 mins to confer with team of person saved and vote another to nominate.
I think all of this would keep the show from being so predictable and would force all houseguests to participate to win, not just fly under the radar by not ruffling feathers. There is just something in me that says it is wrong to throw competitions.

Cricket

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma, great post. I agree with most everything you said. I too think the evicted houseguests should be sequestered.

The only thing I might say different is let the public vote. However, if CBS took your suggestion and sequestered the evicted houseguests and only let the last 7 vote, that would be great, as I agree the DR's would be so boring, why bother watching the shows when they air on TV?

I'm also totally with you regarding the age groups. I'm so tired of seeing these youngsters who have no life experience go on these shows and show how stupid and vapid they are. Make it an even number of 20's, 30's, 40's and 50's. Make it a fair playing field.