DANNI is extremely upset that Roddy thinks she is "soulless",as revealed from tonights hoh comp.
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Wcv63

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beegee...thank you for your post. I don't agree with all of it but I respect it.

As far as Roddy's DR conversations. He admitted to Lisa that he always lied in the DR. He did NOT tell the truth because he said he was playing for the end game.

SanFran...I guess we're just gonna have disagree on this point because I can see that you can't be PERSUADED to see the truth. :O

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
"Also, different kinds of behind-the-back talk is more hurtful than others."

Perhaps. But if you were Josh, who seemed to greatly like and admire Roddy, wouldn't said comments be just as hurtful if not more? Because, as people point out about Dani, he showed himself to be a "true" friend of Josh. Yet, he took the opportunity to diss his friend.

As to quantity and frequency, I see your point. But saying it once versus saying it 100 times may not matter to the person it's being said about.

In addition, we know that we cannot go by Roddy's diary rooms since, as he stated, he wasn't being entirely truthful in them. He was playing the game inside AND outside.

Zachsmom

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo:"In addition, we know that we cannot go by Roddy's diary rooms since, as he stated, he wasn't being entirely truthful in them. He was playing the game inside AND outside"

Don't you think that if Dani had done the same..she'd win hands down?

I don't think Dani sees that it's not just her DR session either..I mean..we saw how mean and catty she was on the live feeds..she doesn't even consider that behavior as wrong..

Beegee

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo, like I said, I didn't hear Roddy say Josh was a slob, so I really can't comment on whether it would be as hurtful -- only that it doesn't strike me as something that would be as hurtful. If it was hurtful, he shouldn't have said it.

As to quantity and frequency, I think it does matter. My friend may become frustrated with me over something I do and say something once or twice behind my back that shouldn't have been said. That's a human foible most of us are at least occasionally guilty of. However, if that same friend is in the habit of doing it over and over and over to whomever will listen, and not just during a point of frustrastion, but to make her/himself feel good at my expense, then that friend is not being a friend.

As an example, Danielle's DR descriptions of Gerry's physical appearance during competitions had nothing to do with the game, with getting along in the house, or with anything, and were totally uncalled for. Danielle's exaggerated imitations of Amy while Amy and Jason were on the boat was just plain mean and catty. Too often, her only point seems to be to put others down.

If others don't see it that way, I understand. We all perceive things differently based on our own experiences.

Beegee

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom, I agree. Maybe Roddy "lied" in the diary room, or maybe he practiced discretion. Either way, if Danielle had practiced discretion I have no doubt she would be a shoo in. She needed to follow that old rule for living -- If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom said, "Don't you think that if Dani had done the same..she'd win hands down?

I don't think Dani sees that it's not just her DR session either..I mean..we saw how mean and catty she was on the live feeds..she doesn't even consider that behavior as wrong.."

Actually, had she played the diary room like Roddy I don't think she would win. But I do get what you're saying in that, had she not been so brazen then, yes, hands down.

As to not understanding that it's not just her DR's, I agree, she's not aware of that. (Though, I suspect she's finding out now.) IMO, she doesn't consider her behavior as wrong because no one called her on her behavior. They laughed with it, which reinforced and validated it for her. However, as I said above, she will certainly find out.

Mystery

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Beegee, Arnold Shapiro would hate it if BB houseguests followed the old rule! :)

Beegee

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mystery, you are right -- and we would hate it too. Bad behavior is infuriating, but it is interesting to watch. LOL.

Zachsmom

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo"she doesn't consider her behavior as wrong because no one called her on her behavior."

That's what I find sad..she's thirty years old and doesn't recognize that it's wrong..

Ruditoo

Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 06:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa' statement last night 9/23/02 about 8:30p.m. BB time. Roddy took the lowest of the low roads you could imagine, and the references to the other two snakes should help Dannielle deal with all of the neg. attacks she is getting and perhaps even some of the posters,at last she knows her gut feeling to avoid Roddy was true.