Oh my gosh..Lisa and Dani telling everything
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Oh my gosh..Lisa and Dani telling everything
Jaysgal | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 09:56 pm     Now, I love this! I just read somewhere that the money is not paid all at once. It is paid over a certain number of years. That makes me in a subtle way accept Danielle getting even a pence. At least we know it won't all be available for her, especially when tax's factored.... Can anyone very whether or not it is a one time pay? |
Mschumacher | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:12 pm     Wendo wrote, "Lisa has played a great game." Not sure what you mean by that. In my opinion, she's in the final two by default, aside from having won the two HoH challenges at the end. The way I see it, Lisa just quietly existed the entire time - very passively existed with coffee cup in hand, didn't say much the entire time except on some one-to-one situations. I think she was the least offensive--along with Jason--to anyone and that's probably why she's there in the final two. It's easy for a person to be "least offensive" when they don't say much. Has anyone seen Lisa get fired up about anything since she's been in there? But as far as having played a great game. I didn't see her "play" much at all. Now I will say that Amy played the game well. Amy should be where Lisa is now. Amy had to put up with so much stuff in that house. |
Azriel | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:21 pm     Mschumacher, it seems like a good strategy to me to be least offensive. I haven't seen Lisa get fired up but maybe that's because she can control her emotions which would also be a good stategy in the game. I disagree that the only people playing the game are the backstabbers and secret alliance members. I think Lisa played the game and did it well. |
Jaysgal | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:25 pm     Has anyone ever thought that being quiet is part of a strategy? Why do people think that one must be talkative, trashy or whatever in order to have played a good game? Just as silence is music, quietness is strategy--even if it is one's nature. If I were in that house, I would probably have been a lot like Lisa. I would be strategising [in my mind many times and with other houseguests], but I would be quiet for the most part. I wouldn't talk much except with those with whom I had personalised relationships (and that takes time) or were debating on politics, religion, etc. Danielle, in my opinion, used her true nature to her advantage in this game, and so did Lisa. Why are people willing to accept Danielle's but unwilling to accept Lisa's? About a week ago, people were saying how Lisa is a gonner because she wasn't good at competitions and that she only won HOH once because it was given to her by popularity vote. And Jason made the mistake of assuming the same thing (forgetting that she might be playing exactly as he was, such as pretending to be bad at competitions), so he kept her. Now she proved the assumption to be incorrect, but people are still calling it luck. People call it luck but refuse to call the fact that Danielle is still there or that Jason was still there luck because of the major twist that brought Amy back. Had that twist not existed, Jason or Danielle would not have been at an advantage of putting up a decoy repeatedly without having to put one of theirs and losing a vote to evict someone; and had that not happened, they would have been targeted by the surviving houseguests. The second twist changed the whole outcome of this game. I hope they do not do that again next year. |
Mschumacher | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 10:53 pm     >>>Has anyone ever thought that being quiet is part of a strategy? Why do people think that one must be talkative, trashy or whatever in order to have played a good game?<<<< Oh yes. Of course being quiet can be one's strategy. But this IS a television show and in the broadcasting business they can't have "dead air," and Lisa gave them tons of dead air. If all HGs had taken Lisa's approach (assuming Lisa had a strategy and that strategy was I'll keep my mouth shut), they wouldn't have had a show. Will anyone know who Lisa is if she wins on Wednesday? Will Julie know anything about her other than her connection with Eric? I didn't care for many of the conversations in the house personally. I prefer to hear people talk about themselves and their lives (BB1). |
Superfan | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:13 pm     Didn't see much from Lisa, other than trying to squeeze in cuddle time with Eric, talk about belly button tricks, constantly conscious of where her waistband was placed (just above the pubic line), writing love notes in peanut butter, wearing peanut butter, adjusting thong, etc., etc. AFTER Eric left was when Lisa came out to play. She made some smart moves (aligning with Dani), tried some stuff of her own (Marcellas), won the last HOH, watched, listened AND LEARNED from Dani. Don't get me wrong, I think Lisa is adorable and sweet and a very good person in RL. I just don't believe she is the best player. Not by a long shot. I would compare her to Bunky from BB2. Along for the ride with whoever was in power at the time, but not doing much to 'create' or 'manipulate' the environment like Dani did. |
Saph036 | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:20 pm     I Ditto that, Superfan! |
Kminfinity | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:22 pm     Double ditto, Superfan.. |
Wcv63 | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:27 pm     Triple ditto and big CO-SIGN Superfan!! |
Monalisa | Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 11:46 pm     Doesn't anybody else find it odd that Lisa knew all of this? She knew about Dani and Jason's alliance from week 3? She knew EVERYTHING. My personal take.....she is pandering to the jury, in case they vote for the best game player. |
Wendo | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:30 am     Mschumacher said, "Wendo wrote, "Lisa has played a great game." Not sure what you mean by that." I meant in respects that she aligned herself to the right people, then utilized the "under the radar" strategy. Additionally, she won that boat challenge and tonights question challenge quite well. She is, afterall, in the final two. Do I think she'd be there if not for the efforts of Jason and Dani? No. However, I do give credit where credit is due. Which is another reason why Lisa maybe chose Dani to take to the finals. She relizes that she has a REALLY good shot at the half mill and, had it not been for Danielle, she wouldn't have. She said a few times tonight that her loyalty lay with Dani, she never had anything concrete with Jason. Bring Dani because she knows she can beat her, as well as reward her for helping her in this game. |
Fabnsab | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:15 am     I want to elaborate on what Wendo said. On the live show, Lisa said she didn't play this game selfishly but her decision tonight was selfish. That says to me, she KNEW she could win against Dani so she feels selfish in picking her for the final 2. Maybe if she chose selflessly and with her heart, Jason would have been the one. |
Maryann | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:51 am     I too believe that Lisa knew that Dani was not well liked and that's the reason she chose her over Jason. On the other hand,it's possible that "the Cards" told her that she could win over Dani. Either way,it was a good move. |
Monalisa | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:29 am     Fab, she also did some selfish things in the game. Such as voting Amy back in the house. I think to make it to the end you have to play selfishly....to some degree. |
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