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Alegria

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi guys, Dani has some great fans. It was a pretty harsh outcome but she dealt with it beautifully. Her exit reminded me of last year's ending; but I think Dani is a much stronger woman and will happily put all of this behind her. What a show!

Avrey258

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
A couple of things bugged me about tonight's show.
Number one, Marcellas. Please! Moving away from Jason because all of a sudden Marcellas found his morals. Hypocrite.

Number two: Tayna, please stop calling yourself a "sexy" mom.

Number three: Josh, grow a spine. You know you wanted to vote for Danielle.

Number four: Chiara, please quit fawning over Roddy.

Number five: Eric, you knew you were going to vote for Lisa, so that announcement of not letting your relationship with her influence you was useless.

Number six: Amy, what can I say...you followed the in crowd, AGAIN!

Number seven: Roddy, the game is over so please quit trying to say you played it honestly. You did tell some lies too.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma--the cartel!! LOL

Dani still rocks! I'll proclaim it from the top of the closest fan site. Dani, a virtual hug from me to you.

Misslibra

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I could like Dani as a person outside of the game. I wish her and her family all the best.

Kappy

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The best thing about tonight's show was when Jason had his turn to ask questions and he only spoke of his respect for these two women. Seeing the respect among those final three was a wonderful moment. No matter how bitter the other nine feel for losing, they can't take that away from them.

Annitar

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chat live with the BB3 runner-up today at 1PM ET (10AM PT)!

This is posted on the CBS Website!

Dallasbbfan

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I am a huge Dani fan and don't care who knows it. I like Lisa and hope she has luck with the money she won. The EHG voted with their heart instead of their head. None of us can say that we wouldn't have done it differently if someone trashed us on national TV. I think if Daniel had toned down her DRs a lot of the other stuff would have been forgotten. Hopefully this will be a lesson that next years players will keep in mind.

Go Dani! You are a winner to me!

Earthmother

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 08:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani did a phone interview on a local radio station in San Francisco this morning. She was quite funny.

She said she thought a lot of the vote was sour grapes because they did the same things she did, she was just there longer..lol.

She thought Roddy's problem was that he got beat by an uneducated (she didn't go to college), smart, teenage mother he couldn't control..so true from what I saw last night.!! She said "Yeh Roddy you played a good game, but I got 50gs and you got????oh yea, nothing!!" I cracked up...

She didn't say she loved them all, or that she went to the cast party. She will be on this radio station for a live interview in about 2 weeks.

Wcv63

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani handled herself with class, honesty (giving herself a (1) in the ethical department) and laid herself bare to the jury. I was disppointed in the pettiness and the self-righteousness I saw last night.

No one besides Jason, Josh and Chiara even gave Dani a hug or spoke to her directly. I found it shameful and a lot more telling of their character than Dani's.

Bmh

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey guys I am kind of late..but I was really upset last night..my girl only got 1 freakin vote!!...grrrr..but I got over it..Dani won 50G's and was the best player this year and should have won..but what can ya do?..Thanks to all for all the love and support you all gave Dani she needed defending this summmer lol..Love ya Dani~best houseguest ever!!! :)

Gramma

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I made this post long ago enough that it's since been zipped up and sent to TVCH archive heaven. Since my feelings about Dani still remain the same, I want to repost it now so she can see how some of us were perceiving things a few weeks back.

A reality game exists that has an end prize of $500K that is awarded to the one HG who can out-wit and out-last all the others, after having spent over 2 months living in a confined, artificial, stressful environment with 11 other people who also want the prize.

A married woman with a family who has worked hard all her life to provide a good home for her family sees this and decides she'd like to go for it. That $500K could be life altering for her and her family and she thinks she has the chutzpah and determination to maybe pull it off. It's worth giving up 2 months of her regular life and living under stressful conditions to give it a try.

So..she goes into it with one fixed goal in mind. Make it to the end at any costs. Stay focused on the game.. don't forget it's a game, don't forget "it's business", don't slip and let your emotions rule your intelligence, hope like heck that others WILL slip and forget what the game is about. Hope like heck that they have enough personal issues that they'll become entangled in their emotions and self-esteem issues with the other 11 strangers and lose their focus. Stay true to yourself and your goals and don't forget that your aim is to be the last person standing. Never forget why you're there. You're not there to make friends. You're there to win the prize. You don't need those people in your life. You need them out of the game.

That's the game. Dani has focus. Dani knows and loves herself and so doesn't need validation from 11 strangers to stay focused. That's her winning card.

She's a gamer. I say good for her. If the other HGs are also gamers and don't fall victim to their own emotional egos at the end, they'll tip their hat to her ability to stay true to her goal and vote her the money. If not, if their egos are too fragile to deal with the bruises they've received, she'll have to settle for $50K which still will be a nice tidy little sum for a summer job.

None of us are perfect, and under the circumstances of being in the BB environment, we'd all probably be a lot less perfect than we were to begin with. With no access to outside influences or stimuli, we might even find ourselves slipping into a situation where we gossip. This isn't R/L. It's a contrived situation that's designed to unravel the emotions of the players self-esteem and cause them to lose their focus.

BB sees that Dani has a will of steel. I say good for her. She'll make it to the end because she's played the hardest and smartest game and deserves to. She hasn't played anyone else's game. She's playing her own game. I hope her final speech to the jury knocks their socks off and sends them all into a last minute moment of clarity and therefore, change of heart.


Well, it seems that their egos WERE too bruised and in a shameful display of a charismatically led Group-thinking exercise, chose to vote against Dani in the end. With the exception of Eric, I don't think any of them voted for Lisa. No, they voted against Dani. While forgiving each other for committing the same sins to each other that they blame Dani of, for some reason they can't forgive Dani. Why? Sour grapes folks. Sour grapes.

Seeing the 10 EHG all gushing lovey-dovey over each other was embarrassing. Kumbaya and all that. blech.

Had she been a less kind person, she and Jason would have taken Amy or Marcellas with them to the final two. Dani's biggest mistake in this game was wanting someone who deserved it to win if she couldn't herself.

Lisa owes a huge thanks to Dani and Jason. They gave her the game.

Shereebie

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma, what an excellent post. I couldn't have said it any better myself. *applause*

Oregonfire

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I noticed that too W. I was glad that Josh and Chiara gave her hugs, (Jason too, but that was a bit more expected). A lot of those folks have some acceptance issues, even the ones that hugged her!

Too bad I missed the chat, radio interview. Wish I could get a post game wrap up by Dani.

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma- I wish you'd post this in another thread so more people could see it. Articulate and elegant.

Bmh

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma the Dani site keeps gettin better and better..I am loving it!..thank you to Jeeny also for helping Gramma out!

I even registered a user name for the Dani message board :)..come on y'all go register on the Dani message board and support her!

I got one question though..the Dani bedtime story isn't loading..I was wondering about that

And please let me know if you want me to look for Danisms I would be happy to do so..if I get the okay:)

Whit4you

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well Dani made it to the final 2 that's more then most BB contestants can say.. and she took the 9-1 loss with class. Wishing her all the best...

Bmh

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanx Whit nice of you to drop by and say..I know it was hard on her to lose that badly..but she really did take it in good spirits and genuinely seems happy with how she did and the money she got..which makes me feel better!

Wendo

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great post Gramma, I agree wholeheartedly. I will say, though, I wish Dani had done a wee bit better in the Q&A and final argument speech. But, I think after the questions, she was resigned to the fact she was going to lose. Hard to mount an offensive when the war is already done.

I found one thing interesting in another thread that was initially denied, but then corraborated. Roddy did, in fact, say to Dani before he asked her the PB&J question, that she hurt a lot of people. And, I wonder (this is speculation) if that was meant to hurt Dani, or was it to "remind" the jury of how they feel hurt before they voted? IMO, that was said for the jury's benefit. I know some disagree, but I'm drawing my conclusion based on how Roddy was in the house. No way, obviously, to know for sure.

Anyway, long story longer, I think Dani played a kick butt game. I'm sorry she didn't win first place, sure, but second is dandy too. As I said, she bested 10 other people (including Roddy. LOL!)

I will certainly be visiting her fan site (hope she visits!) And will be joining the new forum. Thanks guys for setting up a place for the Dani fans.

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wendo- I agree about her closing statement and answers. I think she could have really made a case for the game she played and gained some votes. I was surprised to see her give up.

I was gratified to see articles about the game today that agreed she played the best game. I was also shocked she said in her chat that the bunch of bad losers do not seem to have forgiven her-and forgave Marc! I am so disgusted with that bunch that I wasn't glad to see any one of them but Jason yesterday. Jason said it so well-to deaf ears.

I've registered to be an official visitor at the fan site and I hope to see you all there...meanwhile of course I am still visiting this one-hey BB may have ended but meggie is still in bed contemplating what to do now!

Gramma

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 10:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP

Thanks to those of you who offered kind words on my above post. Meggie, I wouldn't want to bother posting it elsewhere, because , well, as the message at the top of the forum says, no one's going to change their minds now and I find it a war zone out there. This one thread has pretty much become my whole forum. It's safe here and I don't feel like banging my head on a brick wall. ;) It's one reason I've never been inside of the other, anti-dani thread. They have theirs, we have ours.

New article at ew.com They interviewed Dani

Reyes of Light

ok.. I can't make this a clickable link since there are commas in the link itself. You'll have to copy & paste I'm afraid :
http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,355372~3~0~danielledishesonlosing,00.html

We weren't the only ones who felt we were witnessing the effects of Roddy's manipulation during that fiasco of a jury vote.
Dani saw it too.

From the above article :

"...Before Roddy asked me his question, he said I hurt a lot of people, and I knew by his tone, Roddy influenced a lot of people not to give me a vote. ...

Why didn’t you give a speech at the end saying, ''Yes, I was harsh in the diary room but it was a game. I still love you folks.'' Why did you say, instead, that you’d do nothing different?
You know, I thought about that, but you gotta understand Roddy was in the room and he influenced a lot of people. I’m a woman with a lot of pride. I said to myself, ''I’m not going to say this because they may not believe me.'' If I want to apologize and ask for forgiveness, I’ll do it afterwards. I wasn’t going to grovel.


It's a long interview and only strengthened my resolve that she's a good, strong, caring, intelligent woman, who lost out to a bunch of folks who never matured beyond their days in High school when getting to sit at the Cool Kids table was the most important goal in life.

Wendo

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma, thanks for posting the link to the article. Very good and quite fascinating. She sounds like such a strong and intelligent woman.

Meggieprice

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Great article- and confirms our feelings about Roddy feeding sour grapes to everyone. Usually I feel warmth when I see everyone come back in the house at the end and this time I didn't. They were a sorry bunch IMO- all but Jason Lisa and Dani.

Oregonfire

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for that article, Gramma. Enlightening and interesting. I don't think that jury should walk around thinking their sh*t don't stink. Sorry to be crude, but they were just full of it last night.

Pequamom

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 04:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bravo, Gramma! I love your post. I wish Danielle could see it, and know that her fans understand.

I hated the final show, and was so shocked and disappointed in the EHGs. Blech on all of them (except Jason, of course.)

Fluff

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 08:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Danielle because she doesn't kiss butt.

Moderator

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 08:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
A reminder, this is an I like Danielle thread. Please stay on topic. :)

(c)

Gramma

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 11:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
saying a fond good bye to all the wonderful posters here. I've so enjoyed watching you all "fighting the good fight". Hope to see you all here when the next Big Brother begins!

Avrey258

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is anyone else having trouble reading the whole article at EW? I can't get past the second page. Also I was surprised to learn that Danielle's boss terminated her. I know having any employee leave for three months is a shock but geez, have a heart!

Bmh

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 11:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
bump

Bmh

Saturday, September 28, 2002 - 12:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gramma..i found the Dani/Jason alliance webpage..you were asking for earlier..I gave it to Jeeny to post on the Dani site :)

Bhintx

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 08:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just wanted to add my two cents about Dani - She did absolutely wonderful... played the best game ever and should've won. This year was the best year in terms alliances, scheming, plotting, duping of others and lying... everything that makes this kind of show exciting and whether we admit it or not its what makes us all eager for the next episode to air. Dani had alot to do with why we couldn't wait to see what was gonna happen next. I know, I know some think that there was alot of "trash talking" and to that I say "whatever!" Thats life... its real and it happens everyday... so what? As Curtis from BB1 would say, "Suck it up and deal". I thought Dani was hilarious in the livefeeds and in the DR. Its too bad we've gotten so thinskinned that alot people can't take a little ribbing every now and again. Most of what she said and did was in jest and thats the way it should have been taken and she should have gone home with the money. Oh well, 50Gs aint bad. Thanks for a great show Dani!

****Had to add this little bit---- isn't it ironic that the 1st HG to ever refer to another HG as Satan was none other than Mr. I don't see how they didn't see I was only being kind, Roddy. (Livefeed post July 11 10:59 am) Of course we know he was only kidding when he called KiKi "Satan" and "the dark underlord with her pitchfork, horns and tail" while she was telling about another one of her crazy stories. Yet when Dani did the same thing she was accused of character assasination. Go figure....

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 09:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Good post,Bhintx. I have to admit it still feels wrong to me, the way it happened.

One of the things that worries me is that next years crop will know that they can scheme and lie but they have to give good DR playing to the EHG. That means they wont tell the truth and that adds up to boredom for us. Truth is, I (and most of you probably) only watch the TV show to see the diary rooms, and a few competitions.A new trend like that will not be good for ratings. Oh well.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 09:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is a positive Dani thread, not a bash Roddy thread. Please get back to the topic of Dani and not Roddy.

Meggieprice

Sunday, September 29, 2002 - 10:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What? Noone is bashing anyone here!