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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archive TWO: DANNI is extremely upset that Roddy thinks she is "soulless",as revealed from tonights hoh comp.: Archive through September 22, 2002

Bbrules4ever

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
shes telling lisa "how can he think that that...i'm a mother, i have 2 children....how can he think i'm soulless....?"

Guinevere

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This, from the woman who called him "the Devil" about 10,000 times?

Unbelievable.

I don't think Danielle is soulless, but I think her soul is pretty ugly.

Superfan

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani needs to suck it up, kharma's comin back on her (and I'm rootin for her!).

As usual, Roddy's just trying to keep up with Dani.

She called him the Devil so he had to find another word.

Roddy you're a day late and a dollar short.

Just to think, I used to really like watching that guy work it!

Crossfire

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it is fair turnabout. One would not have happened without the other.

Having said that, if he wants to keep playing the nice guy card, he needs to get above that stuff. Shame on him.

Toolhound

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Seems fitting to me. If I was Roddy and had watched the tapes and saw her call me the devil over and over again Soulless would be one of the nicer things I would say about her.

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Roddy said that to get at her emotionally. The guy is that good at reading people and knowing what to say to get under their skin. What I find funny, though, is while she's a bit bothered about it, she is laughing at it as well. A lot more than I can say about Roddy.

And, I agree with Crossfire, so much for that AWESOME and most honest guy image. Not surprising though. Ego is always the downfall for people like Roddy.

Dagny

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What else could Roddy have said about her, that would have been polite?

What was Amy's comment about FERTILE all about?? Lisa and Dani thought it was maternal...but I am pretty sure it was fertile.. What was Amy's point on that?

Cc1976

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, it was "fertile"...I'm glad I'm not the only one who didn't understand Amy's point on that one!

Who do you think Marcellus described as "Guarded" and who was "Instinctive"? That's the only one I'm not sure about.

Anyone surprised at any of the descriptions?

(The ones in caps are the ones they answered and we're 100% sure about, the other ones are just my guesses)

Lori: Funny = DANI. Mysterious= Lisa. Polite= Jas

Amy: Sweet= LISA. Precious= Jason. Fertile= Dani

Chiara: Insecure=LISA. Strong= Dani. Perfect= Jas

Roddy: Soulless= DANI. Inexperienced = Jason. Uncertain = Lisa

Marcellus: Attractive=JASON. Guarded= Lisa(?) Instinctive= Dani (?)

Tonya: Sexy=JASON. Fake= Lisa. Conniving= Dani

Gerry: Lucky= LISA. Earnest=Dani Energetic= Jas.

Josh: Spineless=JASON. Overconfident=Dani. Childlike= Lisa

Eric: Spontaneous=DANI. Beautiful=Lisa Pushover= Jason.

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Cc1976, Yeah, I didn't get the "fertile" thing either. Huh???

What an odd adjective.

Oregonfire

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd maybe switch those two for Gerry, but otherwise I think you've got it right. I think that energetic=Dani and earnest=Jason.

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm surprised that so many of the comments/words about the remaining three are so negative.

Roddy's particularly shows someone who is pretty bitter.

His 'soulless' comment shows how deeply he was hurt by Danielle's devil doings.

However I don't think that is fair. "Devil" can be taken as a joke, while there's only one way to take 'soulless'. And I don't think that it is an apt description for Danielle anyway.

Danielle's defense on the other hand is meaningless. Being a mother doesn't prove you have a soul -- just about anybody can have a kid.

Maryann

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle's defense on the other hand is meaningless. Being a mother doesn't prove you have a soul -- just about anybody can have a kid.
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This is true...look at Susan Smith.
Anyway, it's a dumb move to brag about having kids until they've grown up and you can see the results of your work.
Did they grow into confident people with good hearts?
Can they earn a living?
Did you teach them to swim,to drive, to work for what they want?
Having the child is no big deal...raising a decent human is the trick.
Personally, I think that having breast implants takes a lot more courage than having kids,the idea of implants is scary.

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Let me add that the above seem pretty much correct except for:

Marcellus: Attractive=JASON. Guarded= Danielle Instinctive= Lisa

Lisa is clearly instinctive, because she hardly had to do anything to come this far. She knew to trust Dani when necessary, and Jason as well. I'm thinking she's a bit psychic at this point as well.

On the other hand Danielle is clearly guarded since she had so much to hide.

Dagny

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it possilbe that Amy was making a derogatory remark towards Dani...but trying not to sound like it?

Fertile...having babies...at 16? Could that have been what Amy was getting at??

Fertile..doesn't make you a Mother...

John32070

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I almost burst out laughing when Jason realized Josh had called him spineless. Even though I can see why Josh would say that (his following of Dani) I felt bad for Jason as I'm sure it really hurt him. I wish Gerry had said something stronger about Lisa than lucky, but maybe it's his way of saying he knows what she's said about him and she's lucky no one else in the house ever called her on them.

Cas

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:17 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy can be pretty witty sometimes, I´d like to think her "fertile" was the kindest way of saying "full of sh*t"(you know manure being a great fertilizer).

Gina8642

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I swear that Julie clearly stated that each former house guest was asked for one positive AND one negative word to describe the remaining three.

So they HAD to come up with a negative word.

This is the same thing as the taped good byes in the DR. The HGs have mentioned that they are all asked for one negative statement and one positive statement on why each person should stay or go.

My point? - No former HG is necessarily trying to say only bad things about the remaining HGs. Big Brother is asking them for these words. And, Big Brother's editing crew gets to decide which ones to use.

Do I think soulless is mean? Sure, a little bit, especially aimed at a religious person. But what comes around goes around and it isn't any worse than calling someone the devil.

Until I went to bed at about 8:00pm BB time, Dani seemed to be handling everything fine. She was laughing. She was saying (to herself) 'it's a game'. She said aloud that she might only get one vote. To me, she seemed fine with it. Yes, emotions were running high, but she wasn't freaking out or anything. Personally I think she is really glad she won 50k. If she could have won more - great, but 50k is great too.

Braveheart61901

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's my take on "fertile"...

I think she was referring to Jason. You know....virgin = sperm stored up = fertile.

JMO

Rig

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:57 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Could be, Braveheart.

Fruitbat

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with everything you said Gina. Roddy has a lot of animosity for Danielle and souless expresses this.

I think Gerry said Lisa was lucky because she will win and sees her as being carried to the end by happenstance. (I don't agree but Josh would)

Car54

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
All through the game, people kept saying Roddy was a master manipulator, but now he has gotten inside her head from OUTSIDE the house. HE IS GOOD!

Tresbien

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have yet another take on Amy's use of the word fertile to describe Danielle. I think it might be in the sense of a fertile imagination because of Dani's claims to have seen Amy "showing her business."

Beserkknight2

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Car54 - Roddy knew precisely how
Danielle would react to the "soulless" adjective.
I can't wait to hear his question for Dani. It
should be GOOD!

Nimtu

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that perhaps fertile was the nicest thing that Amy could come up with about Dani. I mean she has two kids so therefore you know that she is fertile. Kind of like when we had that thread to say something nice about a HG you didn't like and some people said thing like "breaths quitely" cause it was the nicest thing that they could say.

Fruitbat

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That sounds about right to me Nimtu.