Archive through September 26, 2002
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Archive through September 26, 2002
Ark | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:10 pm     I've thought about this before and now after hearing that Danielle's oldest daughter was very upset with the outcome, I'm thinking about it again. Should parents of children, under the age of 21, be banned from future BBs? Krista's daughter had to endure too much, as far as I'm concerned. Tonya's kids also heard more than they ever should have. Imagine learning that your mom was high when she got pregnant with you. Now Danielle's daughter, living three months without a mom but knowing that mom was gone so that they could all have a new home and then thinking that because Mom didn't win, there would be no house. I think this is too much for a child to understand and I'm thinking that BB should just chuck the applications of anyone with young kids. |
Dallasbbfan | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:21 pm     I think this may be a good idea. I jokingly told my 8 year old that I was going to apply for BB4 and she put her little foot down and said she was not going to watch people be mean to her mom. Besides, I couldn't imagine 3 months away from her. Maybe if she were 16 or so, but never under that. |
Draheid | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:22 pm     Ark: You have a valid point. However, I believe in parenting being the responsibility of the PARENTS. It should not be ASP or CBS's responsibility. If an individual chooses to participate in something like Big Brother, that is their right to do so. They should be responsible enough to understand the implications of such a choice. The fact that their participation and HOW they participate will have an affect on their families is something they should be well aware of prior to undertaking such a venture in the first place. The only involvement ASP/CBS/etc should have in this process is to make certain that the applicant is aware of the possible affect that it might have on their families and friends, based on past shows. Then, after obtaining from the applicant that they have a full understanding of this, allow them to continue in the process. JMO - FWIW |
Skeldragon | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:25 pm     Hmmm...somethin' must be wrong with my little ones then. Last night they were BOTH asking me to apply for BB4. I told them there's no way on earth I'd apply for a reality show, 'cause I couldn't take people on the internet being mean to me - LOL Maybe they just wanna ditch Mom for a couple of months.... |
Zachsmom | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:26 pm     I think if the children are hurt by the show no one is to blame but the parent.. Dani's daughter was disappointed because Dani didn't win the 500,000..(what teenage kid wouldn't be) Tonya is the one to blame for her children hearing things that they shouldn't have heard..Tonya is the one who put the information out there.. Krista..well..same applies.. Perhaps they should get more responsible parents and do a better screening of applicants.. but to deny a parent from going on the show just because they have kids? NO WAY! Sheryls kids didn't suffer.. Lori's kids didn't suffer.. and I don't believe Gerry's kids suffered either.. |
Demeter | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:31 pm     I agree...it is the parent's responsiblity to consider their children. No one else has that responsibility. Personally, I don't approve of parents with young children going on the show. However, it is their right. All people in the limelight have to consider the effect of their actions on family, children, and friends. Should we say someone like Madonna can not have children because her actions may create grief for her children? Children of politicians, sports figures, musicians, actors, etc. all must deal with the public reactions to their parent's behaviors. Even on a different scale, children of teachers, ministers, etc. must deal with their peer group in terms of their parents actions becoming known in the community because of their position. Having people from all walks of life and age groups is what makes the show interesting. I wouldn't want to restrict that option. |
Bladewelder | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:32 pm     You make a good point Ark....but...I don't believe that Danielle should have put so much into winning it for her kids. She went on and on and on and on about how she HAD to win the money because she'd promised her kids. Speaking as a mother myself, children don't like to be promised something and then have you fall back on your promise. They hate that!! Her children believed that she would do it and she might have had she not been so deceitful behind the others backs. On the other hand, Tonya, knowing what went on in the house while she herself was there, should have known better than to let her kids see the live feeds. Of course how was she to know that Marcellas and others were talking badly about her once she was gone? But all her conversations seemd to be about her ex, or her boobs. Hardly talked about her children at all. Krista from BB2, well.....she's a different kind of person altogether. I'm sorry but I have no sympathy for the child of a mother who carries on with a yahoo on the show she just met, then several weeks later agrees to marry him on live television, claims she has no recollection of the knife incident with Jason while they were totally inebriated, but then turns around almost a year later and tries to sue Arnold Shapiro and CBS because of it. Give me a break!! What about the fathers who were on the show?? You never said anything about Kent or Gerry. I'm sure they're kids got some ribbing but take into account that Kent quit smoking during the show (and still smoke-free), and Gerry worked out and lost weight on the show. They both put their time to good use and I'm sure their kids are proud of them. Anyhow, I'm rambling..... |
Ark | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:38 pm     Sheryl & Lori were barely in the house before they were right back out the door. Gerry didn't last too long either. I agree that it's a parent's responsibility to protect their children. But we've seen time after time that they don't always do that and then it's time for someone to step in and do it for them. The producers of Temptation Island stepped in when they discovered that one of the couples had a child and that the parents actions on the show could hurt that child. It's easy to assign blame to the parents but in the long run, assigning blame does nothing to protect the children. |
Minkster1973 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:49 pm     This is compared to saying that you can't be President of the United States if you have children. Ridiculous! Danielle portrayed herself in the way she did because she wanted to win the game. If she didn't keep her children in mind when she made that decision, then that's her fault. I have a nine year old son, and IF I decided to apply for BB4 and actually made it, I would portray myself in the best way possible because I would constantly KNOW my son is watching. My son and I don't have a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of relationship. I try to be the best person possible because that's the kind of influence I want to be in my child's life. One bad apple should not ruin the entire bunch.....in this case. |
Minkster1973 | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:50 pm     On TI....they had a child TOGETHER....that was the issue....not that she had a child. |
Twiggyish | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:20 pm     It would be a form of discrimination to not allow someone with or without children. I agree it's the parent's responsibility to raise and protect their children. |
Toolhound | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:59 pm     When my daughter was young I would have never left her for 3 months for any reason. Especially not to be on a reality show. You can never get that time back. Children need their parents more than they need money. |
Luvhubby | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:20 pm     I was going to apply for Big Brothers 4, and I do have small children. I would not do anything on the show that I do in my own home. I do drink a glass of wine occasionally, but does this make me a bad mom? I thought about how Danialle acted and portrayed herself. She stated she was young when she had her first child, she didn't get her youth out of her system, so she came on the show and she let loose. Not ALL moms act like her. I had my first child at the age of 23, I would say I got my youth out and enjoy having fun when the time is right. But I don't see that banning all parents for the show is right. If that was the case, well CBS would have a big lawsuit for discrimanation. Because I can tell you, yes family is important and so is money. I wasn't going to apply for the show but this thread made me think twice. I am a mom and I would go on the show just to prove that all of us young mothers is NOT like a young Dani. Well, now I think I will go print that application. Who knows, maybe all of you will see me on the show. LOL |
Sunni | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:38 pm     I don't have any children yet, but why do mothers get scrutinized for going on gameshows and not fathers? Eventhough Ken and Gerry had older children I think they could get embarrassed (Gerry's kids) seeing their dad's butt exposed or him laying on a bed watching some guy sleep. If I had kids and I saw an opportunity that seemed adventageous and profitable I would go for it. You can lose and equivalent of 3 months with your kids by working long hours or more than one job. JMHO. |
Demeter | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:55 pm     Sunni, I don't think it's a good idea for moms or dads that have young children to go on a show like this. It's not a good idea for them to work two jobs either. But, that is an ideal. Those that choose to do this need to be like Jason. However, a Jason would probably not choose to voluntarily "gamble" on three months of their child's life. |
Itsallgood | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:59 pm     I think anyone should be able to apply for BB. It is the parents responsibility to monitor their children. Does anyone know the REAL reason Dani's daughter was upset. Maybe it was the way she acted or was portrayed??? I haven't seen any interviews since last night, was just wondering if Dani gave the reason for her being upset? |
Zachsmom | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:02 pm     "I don't have any children yet, but why do mothers get scrutinized for going on game shows and not fathers?" Well..if you look at the history of mothers on BB and fathers on BB I do believe only 2 mothers were actually married (Karen BB1 and Dani)..the rest of them were single mothers..all the fathers were married.. and we all know how single mothers are the cause for all the evil that is going on in our society..I don't think Karen or Dani were scrutinized for leaving their children at home..because a father was there to care for them..at least I didn't see the bashing for that..could be there..I just didn't see it.. |
Hypermom | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:08 pm     Itsallgood: In an interview with Dani, she said her daughter was upset because her Mom didn't win the 500k. |
Wendo | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:21 pm     "Does anyone know the REAL reason Dani's daughter was upset." I believe she said in chat it was because her mom didn't win first place. Pretty understandable, wouldn't you say? LOL! |
Woodpecke® | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:29 pm     No parents????? I have a better idea. How about all the players being between the age of 40 and 55, except for 2 token players in their 20's or 30's. I would love to watch that show. |
Sunni | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:36 pm     Demeter, my point was that eventhough they spend 3 months away. In the real world parents can spend that much and more time away from their children. Mothers who work may only get 2-3 weeks after their child is born to spend Quality time with them. Dad's get NONE. Many children do not see their parents until late in the evening and early in the morning. Some don't see them for days at a time. If you can spend that much time away and come home with enough money to take time off from work then you can spend as much Quality time with your kids as you'd like.(or until they start asking you when are you going back to work ) Zachsmom- earlier there was bashing, but the mods cut it out. There was definitely bashing for Krista leaving her 11 yr old daughter with her father for the summer. Something she did every summer. There is a double standard especially when the only dads have been much older men. I would like to see some dad's married or not in the house. Good dad's not deadbeats. JMO. |
Mlt | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:53 pm     Maybe the BB psychologist should make sure that parents are fully aware of the possible effect being on the show could have on their children? I watched BB for the first two years and enjoyed it. But since I wasn't a big internet fan, I didn't realize before this year just how much extra stuff there is that we don't see. And since some of the HGs didn't seem to know exactly how this internet stuff worked, maybe giving them a full run-down might not be a bad idea. Just a thought. |
Demeter | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 04:57 pm     Sunni, I realized what you were trying to say. I also indicated that ideally no parent would be working two jobs or spending long hours away. Some have to make that choice. BB is a gamble. If you have young children, it's like choosing to play the lottery over having three months with your child. Even if you took the money draw away from it, not many would support a parent taking a 3 month vacation away from their young children, "just because" whatever whim suits the parent. I'm not saying it is wrong. Just not good judgment from my perspective. |
Sunni | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 05:07 pm     Demeter- I respect your perspective. I just see it differently. That's all. |
Karuuna | Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 06:23 pm     It really depends on the age of the children. Very young children need constant contact with their parents, or they can't even remember what their parents look like. Even if parents are away during the day, their children do see them every evening, which is important for a child's sense of security and stability. Going away for several months with young children is detrimental to the children. In the long run, how many young kids say they wish their folks made more money? Or do they say they wish their parents spent more time with them? |
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