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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archive ONE: Oh my gosh..Lisa and Dani telling everything: Archive through September 21, 2002

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yeah.. Jason left something in Amy's suitcase too..

Very sweet :)

Cameltoes

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I do respect Dani for being honest with herself about things she has done. I always knew she'd be the least likely to be delusional about it all. I think she will handle the negativity she will encounter like a trooper.

Seamonkey

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa just told Dani that her plan was to take Dani to final two before they walked into the house.. they'd better ask her about that in her interviews!

Crossfire

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bbnan: I understand, while I am not Dani's biggest fan, I am not out for blood either, I think I have well founded, well reasoned reasons that do not include bashing, or excusing the others for nasty behavior for why I think the way I do. I am satisfied with this final two.

I was just curious about that minor detail since someone explicitly mentioned that Lisa came clean about her Marcellas deal.

I think its really cool that they both have all their cards on the table now. Until speech time, there is not much they can do to change anything, so might as well decompress a bit. :)

Time for them to raise a glass and celebrate themselves and remember and the fallen.

Kappy

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sounds like a great conversation between the two!

Lombadier

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is wrong with me?!? I just finised watching tonight's show on tape and I was very sad to see Jason leave. Very sad. Now, here comes the weird part that I don't understand, I believe Dani deserves the win more than Lisa and am kind of hoping Dani wins. Like I said, what is wrong with me?? I have been anti-Dani for weeks now, and here I go losing my mind at the end of the game.

Bmh

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OMG that is crazy..How did Lisa come up with that one?..what made her want to take DAnielle to the final 2 even before they got in the house!!!

Hawaiiandew

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Alegria,
I just heard Lisa say she had picked Dani to be with at the end before they even entered the house. Ohhhh maybe she is psycic.
Back when Chiara got her tarot cards, Lisa kept saying she was doing the cards wrong.

This explains the secrecy....because they are not supposed to talk about seeing each other before entering the house in case people might accuse them of tampering.

C1mag

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Now dani is playing the viewers? Oh brother!

I don't think anyone is saying dani fessing up is making her angelic. However, it does prove in the end that she is an honest woman.

It would be interesting if that Jury decided to let go of some of the hurt feelings over words and decided to reward her game play. I'd be hella shocked!

I still think it was interesting when Lisa said, " if you tell me that you made up that whole chiara and josh thing I will personally hand you the 500,000 dollars" In other words if you look at her game minus the words you can't help but be impressed by all the slop she shoveled to get to the end.

Bmh

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
lol Lombadier you are finally coming to ur senses!!!:)

Bkmac

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Aww C1, I agree completely with you about Dani being unfairly villianized by certain former HG and posters here- but I disagree about Lisa not earning this. Honestly, I think she worked harder than Jason for this coveted final two. She managed to hide her feelings about Chiara and put on a game face, nurtured relationships with the other HG, cozied up to Roddy even though she clearly disliked him, voted Amy back over Eric, contributed to the house so as not to be known as a lazy one, worked to not offend anyone, stayed just quiet enough to escape the chopping block, used her beauty in a subtle way so as not to enflame the women with jealousy but still catch the men's eye, and was onto the J/D alliance in time to wise up. I think she played a decent game.

Eden

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
How is Danielle responsible for Jason leaving? He played that last competition so BADLY! He blew two thirds of the final HOH. Danielle didn't cause Jason to leave. HE did and he knows it.

I think Danielle and Lisa have always genuinely liked one another. I think this conversation is an emotional release... a way to finally let down the game face, fess up and just enjoy each other's company until time for the final vote.

Hawaiiandew

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry I addressed my last comment to Alegria when it should have been addressed to Alteredartist---sorry for the confusion.

Zeyna

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BB should just let these two watch the tapes. I would love to see their reactions.

Cindyluvsroddy

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
oh! and also, i think Dani is the lucky one because Lisa took her into the final 2 ...

Seanflynn

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually, and this is from a Danielle fan, the fact that she voted for Amy, not Eric, to come back in the house (thus going over to Danielle's side when the issue was still in doubt) goes a long way to making her a deserving winner (she didn't and still doesn't know that her vote didn't decide it alone)

Meggieprice

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Bkmac...and noone can deny she fought hard and won this HOH!Not to mention the shift she had to make to switch sides and resist Roddy's moves. My hat is off to her. I have a great deal of respect for both of these women in the game and I am loving this conversation.

Cathie

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They did appear to cry. Dani with her head down, sobbing, hands covering her face. She may have been devastated for a minute. By the time Julie went back to 'check in on the HG one more time' at the end of the show Dani was all smiles. Quick recovery. So be it.

Ozarktracy

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps she thinks she's psychic? She needs to get out of that house!

C1mag

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
BKmac in my post I said Lisa was a lucky woman to have remained for as long as she did but totally agree in the end by winning the final hoh she earned it all on her own. I give her kudos! Was it really luck that Dani is in the finals with Lisa? Luck would be a crap shoot without knowing what Lisa was gonna do. In this case Dani set up two scenarios.. One with Lisa taking her and one with Jason taking her. Both giving her their word to get her there. That isn't exactly luck, but if ya wanna say that I'm cool with it.

Bmh

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes Cathie but then Dani broke down twice while talking to Lisa..about Jason..she truly loves Jason and Lisa..despite how harsh she has been to some

Alegria

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I heard that on the feeds too Hawaii and Alterdartist's theory holds :)

One excellent thing is that these two women are going to keep things interesting for the next few days.

They are going over things piece by piece. Dani just said it will be hard for people next year to figure out which approach to take in order to win. LOL

Suitsmefine

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason is one of the nicest people we will ever see on this show....He handed the game to these two women, as far as Dani comparing herself to Will?????PLEASE!!!! Will came thru the door and went out the door saying the same thing...."I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna lie, I'm gonna lie.....and those people just didn't get it, Dani, did just the opposite, how does that make her the female Will??? I hope Lisa walks away with the money, the man, Her Daddy, and lives happily ever after....I hope Dani gets her dreamhouse, I just don't think she deserves to get it paid for in full,JMHO.....

Meggieprice

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani has cried several times during this covo with Lisa, both times because of her feelings about Jason.

Cliotheleo

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 07:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lombadier, I was for Dani early on. But my reasons for changing my "vote" are due to her personal attacks on the other HG's which was often done with a, relentless, uncaring "my sh** doesn't stink" attitude. While Lisa, Amy, Josh and others did some trash talking, only Marcellas (and I grew to dislike him for the same reason) equaled Dani's trashing of the other HG's. I had no problem with her strategy to play the game, it was a GAME and I DO think she played the game the best. Together with Jason she pulled off one of the few alliances in reality show history that went almost totally unnoticed. But I cannot get over her one personality quirk.

So for that reason, it's almost like I'm docking her $450,000 for being mean. Earlier tonight I said I'd rather see Jason win the $50,000. But the more I think about it, Danielle is a smart woman, she played the game the best and her family IS very deserving to use that 50k as a down payment on a new house.

Jason is younger, has perhaps a better foothold in life to be successful. Plus the fact that he honestly WANTS Danielle to have all the money. (It would be nice for Dani to split whatever she wins with Jason, but we all know he wouldn't take it.) So because of that, while I don't want her to win it all, I am happy that she'll (hopefully) be taking home a little reward for her time and EXCELLENT effort.