Archive through September 22, 2002
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The MVP for BB3 -- Danielle!:
Archive through September 22, 2002
What555456 | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:29 pm     OK, so we can't agree on whether Dani should win or not. Hell, we can't seem to agree on anything about Dani! One thing I think we can agree is that from the standpoint of making the game interesting and worth talking about, Dani is clearly the MVP! First, whether she was right or wrong, souless or a saint, no one can deny she shaped this game this year. Yes, with help from others. And yes, others had an impact. It was not just her. But week after week, it was her alliance and her strategizing that shaped the course of the game either by their direct action or how they responded to others' actions. Second,if one simply reads this Board and others, no one has had more discussion about her or him than Dani. I am not talking about pro or con -- just total amount. No matter which one wins -- Dani or Lisa -- it seems to me Dani is clearly the most valuable player in making this show what it was was this year. |
Showmemoney | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:31 pm     On that, I'd definitely agree with you, Whit. Very well put. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:31 pm     What I totally agree..I have said before the show wouldn't amount to much without Danielle Reyes..She has truly been one of the major players if not the most major player..She has entertained us,interested us,made us laugh,cry,get angry etc. Danielle is one character..and no matter what your personal feelings of Dani are..she is the MVP of BB3..as What said..anybody can agree with this one..The game wouldn't be the same without her! |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:33 pm     (Thinking Show means What not..Whit hehe since I havne't posted here yet...) I'd give Roddy MVP - he definately had these boards hoping. LOL. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:34 pm     I disagree. The MVP goes to Gerry. The climax took place with moves Gerry made. The other significant players, but not necessarily most valuable players were Marcellas, Roddy, Chiara, and Amy (involuntarily a significant player). Each of these persons did things that reshaped the entire game. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:35 pm     He had the boards hoping..Whit..but not the show..he was BORING on the show and only got a little interesting towards the end leading up to his eviction..Danielle entertained us on the show, on the feeds, and has most definitely got discussed the most on the boards |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:37 pm     The only thing Gerry did was veto Marc then he was basically there as the house's punching bag chiara entertained us..but wasn't a big game-player I agree with your assesments of Marcellas and Amy though those were major people in this show..but Danielle takes top honors in my opinion whether she wins or not |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:38 pm     Dunno Bmh - it's just my opinion - if you were to take away any post relating to Roddy between say week 3 and week 7 - this board would have been pretty desolate. Like I said though I think everyone has their own take on who'd be MVP here. Now keep in mind I totally couldn't stand Roddy till the 5-0 vote so I think my take is unbiased here as I woulda choose him even prior to that as the one who's making this game 'intersting' this year. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:40 pm     well I guess we will have to agree to disagree..Without Danielle and Roddy BB3 would be nothing! |
Whit4you | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:43 pm     Well no cause now I agree with you - so now we are going to have to agree to agree. Without Dani and Roddy this game would have been nothing. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:44 pm     Bmh, no, that's not the only thing Gerry did. It was also Gerry who nominated Eric and Lisa. And it is he who had to determine who would stay ultimately. He had several scenarios to go with, but he chose the Lisa and Eric scenario and voted the way he did at the end. It opened room for the battle of whose side the houseguests were on. Did not Danielle claim on the show that it was at that point that she, Danielle, began playing the game? |
Kits | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:45 pm     I still give the MVP to Amy. At least the most enjoyable to watch. Since she has left, even with the last eviction, it has been boring. I feel 'Who cares who wins". Sorry but JMHO. |
Tallyho | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 03:50 pm     the only thing Dani did was make me nod my head. Why are you insulting these people? These people love you and are going to vote for you, why are you saying cruel things that will only cost you votes?? <mod> |
Phillymom | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:13 pm     The MVP doesn't necessarily have to be the winner of the game. But the term "MVP" isn't quite correct in this instance, because it refers to the most valuable player on a team sport, the one who contributes the most to a "team," not to an individual undertaking. But ... taking that thought a step further, I guess you would have to consider Dani the MVP. It was mainly through her work (although I know others contributed) that Lisa, Jason, Marcellas, Amy, and her ended in the positions they did. |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:25 pm     She isn't the Most Valuable Player in her own house. <mod> "OK, so we can't agree on whether Dani should win or not." What555456. The thread asking us who should win Big Brother was RESOUNDINGLY CLEAR. A 75% plurality decided LISA should win BB. I repeat. A 75% plurality decided LISA should win Big Brother. Danielle allowing Lisa into the Final Four ended her chances at the Big Money. Most Valuable Costly Decision is more like it. |
Phillymom | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:46 pm     Like I said, Woodpecker, MVP and winner aren't the same thing, so I'm not sure what the percentage of people who want Lisa to win has to do with the MVP. I'm not a sports expert, but I seem to remember athletes being awarded MVP, but they were not on a winning team. |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:50 pm     Very few Philly. They almost never honor a player in any sport with an MVP from a losing team unless what they accomplish is so outstanding that the voters simply cannot ignore it. Danielle was reviled by the voters and the fans and the result simply will not be an MVP. |
Danddur | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:51 pm     Maybe Dani's motive is to prove that she is the best actor? She certainly proved herself to be with the contrast between her actions and her DRs. Lisa says that she was a good actress but what evidence is there? She did not seem to know anything until there were M,A,D,J and her in the house. Then her thoughts were well documented in her actions and her DR entries. Noone else in the house really showed that they could act. |
Bmh | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:51 pm     I agree Wood..what the heck are you talking about??..that poll was for who they want to win BB3..not MVP..I think you are mixing things up there |
Bettyrubble | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 04:55 pm     I think you've made an excellent point What. No other HG that I've seen has caused so much board chatter. For or against her, everyone posted about her. |
Phillymom | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:01 pm     Thanks Bmh, that's what I was trying to say. One has nothing to do with the other. |
Jaysgal | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:33 pm     "I think you've made an excellent point What. No other HG that I've seen has caused so much board chatter. For or against her, everyone posted about her." Actually, no, Roddy did too. In fact, Roddy was the focus of discussion. I looked like a minority when I started talking about Danielle since week 2 and described her as another Nicole. It was only when Roddy left that people began to notice much of Danielle and pick on her significantly. The people who noticed her earlier were mostly her fans or Jay's fans, who liked her for aligning with Jay. |
Tripwaste | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 05:47 pm     Hmmm, let's review: * Lori Spice, Tonya Spice, Eric Spice: _ non-factors, non-impactors for the most part. * Gerry Spice: _ seriously monkeywrenched the Gang of Six+ by vetoing Marcellus, thus turning Marce's story arc from that of non-factor outkast into future playa and halting the planned juggernaut of the 6+'s blitzkrieg on the Low Countries. _ further reduced the Couples Axis powers by nominating Eric and Lisa, with Eric expelled. _ made a sensational salad! * Joshy Spice: _ terrorized Gerry; threw shiitfits; slap people's asses; looked damn good in drag; showed his own ass. * Chiara: _ tested the boundaries of propriety with lewd behavior/adult language/adult situations. _ online outed her real-life real estate heir manfriend. _ nominated Josh and her bunkmate Roddy, expelling Josh. * Roddy Spice: _ elevated the level of conversation, both engaging and enraging lay people inside and outside the house. _ nominated and expelled Amy, who later returned to snipe out his bosom buddy Chiara. _ mustied up the atmosphere with cigar smoke. _ survived two nominations, but not the third wherein his initial bootee Amy saved herself, thus expelling him. * Amy Spice: _ got drunk loudly _ cat-fought with both Tonya and Chiara. _ got expelled by Roddy. _ got drunk with braids in Mexico. _ called BB3's bluff to make it back into the house. _ nominated and expelled . _ guilt-trippingly saved herself to expell Roddy. _ won a cell phone and some other stuff. * Marcellus Spice: _ nominated and expelled Tonya. _ got mad bitter towards his initial savior Gerry. _ nominated Amy/Roddy and expelled Roddy. _ failed to veto himself, thus expelling hisself by proxy. * Danielle Spice: _ engaged in multiple backroom dealings and stage mother whispers too numerous to detail here, possibly influencing others not to target Jason and/or Lisa. _ nominated Amy and Lisa, from which Jason had to chose who to expell. _ bowed out of 2 HoH semi-final competitions. * Jason Spice: _ marinated his beefcake, remained chaste, got bullied by Roddy, kissed . _ nominated Marcellus and Amy, expelling Marce. * Lisa Spice: _ after winning first HoH, survived the decimation of the Six; survived and even abetted the dissolution of the Couples Axis _ managed to stay under the radar the whole time. _ swept the HoH semi-finals in grand fashion. So, as far as noting which players had the most IMPACT in how the game turned out prior to the semi-finals: The Top Tier might include: * Gerri * Amy * Chiara * Marcellus * Second Tier: * Roddy * Lisa * Dani * Jason * Bottom Rung: * Lori * Tonya * Josh * Eric * Actually the Top and Second Tier kinda BLENDS together, but Gerry definitely heads the IMPACT team. Bottom Rung is pretty much defined. |
Earthmother | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:08 pm     very well done and I agree Tripwaste...Gerry blew the 6pack apart and got rid of Roddy's biggest ally..Marc didn't use the golden veto because he was sure he could have won without Gerry.. 3 of the most impacting incidents in this game were because of Gerry!!! |
Woodpecke® | Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:45 pm     Was Danielle the MVP of BigBrother3 when she lost the second part of the crucial, all-important, money-determining, final HOH of the game? On purpose of course! |
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