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TV ClubHouse: Archive: Archive THREE : Is Roddy Coordinating A Loser's Campaign Against Dani?: Archive through September 26, 2002

Bmh

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No..Amy did claim that she talked to Marc and Josh on the phone briefly..and had e-mail contact with Roddy for a little bit right after she got outta the house..we have no way of knowing if she e-mailed with Roddy first or did a EW interview first..so Goddess may not be wrong at all..in fact I agree with her..

Roddy <>..and has been campaigning a sore loser vote against dani..<>

Zachsmom

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why is it that he's campaigning a sore loser vote against Dani and not a PRO-VOTE for Lisa? He was very fond of Lisa in the game..his exit with Julie he even stated he wanted her to win!!!

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Exactly, Zachsmom - in fact, had he just told Amy that would promise to vote to evict Lisa (if Amy vetoed him and Lisa was put up in his place) he could've been in the final 2 right now. He liked Lisa, he looked out for her and it cost him his last chance. Oh wait a minute....Lisa didn't cost him his last chance...it was HIS LOYALTY to the Lisa he got to know and like towards the end of his stay in the house that cost him his last chance. (Well, that plus... I got the impression that he had told Eric that he would "watch out for her", a "general" type promise that did not contain technical loopholes like Dani's promises always did).

Roddy may be doing exactly what Dani would be doing had Lisa booted her and kept Jason....lobbying for his favorite, something that is PART OF THE GAME, not some nefarious underhanded or diabolical thing. It is expected and encouraged...it's what makes for an exciting ending!

JMO

Zachsmom

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YEP SanFran..so if Jason is lobbying for Dani..could we then say that Jason is lobbying a sore loser vote against Lisa?

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I was actually a Jason fan....but if that's what they wanna call it, I'll bite. Jason would also have to be considered a "sore loser" to lobby against Lisa getting the big money. :)

Shewrites

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's completely ludicrous to even suggest that Roddy is lobbying a campaign against Danielle, without one shred of evidence. I think there are some over-active imaginations at play here.

Niceguy

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Even when you state facts in here, Shewrites, you can still be considered wildly imaginative.

Cricket

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Great posts here and they make a lot of sense. My only problem is Roddy telling Danielle at the Q&A session that "the houseguests are hurt." Where did that come from? If he hadn't discussed Dani with them, how would he know? Was he putting words in their mouth or did every houseguest say they were 'hurt.' I'm sure Gerry was hurt by Lisa when she said her only thing with him getting booted was that she or Eric didn't get to do it. I'm sure Gerry was also hurt by her saying he was looking at her funny...like a pervert. So was Roddy speaking for ALL the houseguests or did he just make it sound that way?

Goddess146

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 01:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am absolutely amazed at Roddy's power to get into peoples' minds and bend their thinking. Not only did he manage to get to some of the house guests but he also managed to get to some posters here.

The mind meld that Roddy did on Sanfranjoshfan is astounding. :)

Sanfranjoshfan, I know you know that I love you despite your being under the influence of Roddy. One of these days I will have drop by and have a cup of coffee with you. We can watch the hunks strolling down Telegraph Avenue and compare notes. :) :) :)

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Goddess146 - "The mind meld that Roddy did on Sanfranjoshfan is astounding. "

Spoken like a true Dani "manipulatee"!

ROTFLMAO!
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Shewrites

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
{{Niceguy says: Even when you state facts in here, Shewrites, you can still be considered wildly imaginative.}}

So I've noticed. (Facts being the key word.) :-)

{{Cricket says: My only problem is Roddy telling Danielle at the Q&A session that "the houseguests are hurt."}}

I was so happy to see that Roddy didn't actually say that. (I thought he said it too, from listening to what Danielle was saying on the feeds after the questions.) It turns out she was the one who said it about herself to Lisa. I was a little uncomfortable with some of the things Roddy said tonight, but I was very glad to see he didn't smash Danielle in the Q&A session.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cricket...

Dani trashed them all....saying Tonya was a bad mother, mocking Amy, ccalling Roddy the devil (and a lot more), trashing Gerry, etc....

I think the ex HG's vote of 9 to 1 for Dani to lose the big bucks pretty much speaks for itself.

I also think the HG's remarks before the vote pretty much explained Roddy's remark, too. I think they put those words in RODDY's mouth, not the other way around. He wouldn't have known she hurt them had they not told him. (I didn't see anyone DENY that she hurt them)

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oops...In my last post, I was going under the assumption that Roddy had said that in tonight's show and that I had just missed it....I guess I should've realized it was just someone else putting more untrue words in Roddy's mouth.

Cricket

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Shewrites and Sanfran...How do we know that it wasn't edited out? I'm sure they didn't show everything the evicted houseguests said in the Q&A session. You've got to know that CBS edits the entire program to make it look like they want.

I still think Roddy is a manipulator, who is in total denial of any faults he possesses. I guess I just can't get too upset about the things Danielle said, because none of them were incorrect. I still think that without her buddy Marci (yeah some buddy) going on and on about the people, Danielle wouldn't have said as much. As far as her 'imitating' Amy, I thought it was hysterical. Sheesh, she had to do something in that house to keep from going nuts. Without Danielle, that show would have been totally boring.

We don't really know everything the other houseguests said in the DR because CBS only showed what that wanted to.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"Shewrites and Sanfran...How do we know that it wasn't edited out? I'm sure they didn't show everything the evicted houseguests said in the Q&A session. You've got to know that CBS edits the entire program to make it look like they want. "

Absolutley correct....we DON'T know what was said and then edited out....which is why we should NOT assume that whatever Dani (the self professed most diabolical liar in the house) says is the TRUTH....ESPECIALLY when it concerns Roddy!

Bastable

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:33 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Zzzzzzzzzz. Last night it was sharp and passionate. Funny how a day after the show, SFJF's animated GIF just seems, well, catty.

Ocean_Islands

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wake up, people. They had an ENTIRE talk session before that phony 'question and answer' session.

Many things were said that were not revealed. I've never seen such a phoney canned set of questions -- right down to Roddy asking her if she really 'didn't like peanut butter.'

Lisa and Danielle were crushed after the whole thing; Danielle and Lisa cried. Lisa cried all night long, and Danielle got smashed in recovery from the whole thing. They just didn't show it on tv.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable - that animated cat "has NEEDS"...:)

Johnnydollar

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 11:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think there is something to what Ocean Islands says. On the Jam! Canada site where they have had periodic updates on the live feeds several times a day, after the Q&A there was a reference to Marcellus saying something to Dani along the lines of "When you said you had my back, I didn't know you were going to stick a knife in it." (John Powell the summary guy put this together from the snatches of post-mortem conversation between D & L.) Obviously nothing like that was shown last nite. And what about Lisa's comments re something about Eric saying she 'screwed' him?

Considering the highly stressed reactions of D & L after the session, and considering how LONG the FotH was during the session, it's not beyond possibility that BB stepped in and 'encouraged' the losers to be a little less vitriolic in the questioning. Maybe someday we'll find out for sure.

Sanfranjoshfan

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 12:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's quite possible, Johnnydollar....but we also cannot guess as to what Dani's *answers* to any tough questions might have been....CBS *could* have edited stuff out because both the questions AND the answers were too vitrolic to air. I don't think we should just assume that Roddy asked hateful things and that Dani was a poor victim....without seeing *both* sides of the Q&A, we'll never know. (Remember...there were no cameras following Roddy around after the Q&A session like there were following Dani and Lisa).

Think about this....had Dani actually DEFENDED her own hateful gossip and mocking (the NON strategy stuff) it would have looked even worse for her....maybe THAT was why it wasn't aired. As it turns out, they never aired one single second of Dani acknowledging making UNNEEDED *personal* remarks that may hurt the feelings of the ex HGs...(I'm referring to the stuff that had nothing to do with strategy). I do think it's safe to assume, though, that since she lost in a 9-1 vote...she DID hurt the ex HG's feelings.

I am NOT, however, suggesting that she WAS hateful or coldly defensive in her answers to any questions regarding non-strategy dissing and mocking. I'm just pointing out that we don't have EITHER side of the unaired Q&A footage so we will never truly know the whole story.

Just an observation...

Loppes

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What's with the Roddy haters? Can't you all just let it go? The guy was evicted weeks ago.
He's a good decent and honest man. Is that so hard to accept? Hmph!

Lon

Zachsmom

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't you know Loppes..it ALWAYS about Roddy..

Why..he's Big Brother's Little Brother..

Maris

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well come on, who hated Roddy? Danni and what was her modus operandi? Trash talk, trash talk trash talk. Why on earth be angry at a guy who wasnt even anywhere near the final two in the game. He didnt win anything and he just came off better than she did to the evicted House guests, because as the phrase goes "the elevator is still in the basement with Danielle, she aint ever getting to the first floor". She didn't have the brains to pull out the final win. She could play dirty and that was it.

Nicole had it right she played the dumbest game in the history of big brother dairy rooms. Dani singlehanded threw this one away and it was within her reach to win it. Her ego got in the way, she had to go into those diary rooms and do her countdown, just to say look at me, I am still here. Well they looked and answered with but you aint getting the money girlfriend.

Goddess146

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy's PB&J question to Dani was a form of the "Damning with faint praise" tactic. It was a bigger slap in the face to Dani than anything else he could have said. Roddy may be evil but he is also smart. It was the perfect thing for him to to do and it was certainly well deserved by Dani. Dani's reaction to the Q&A reflected the true and well deserved sting of Roddy's question.

I do think that it is interesting that Dani and Roddy the only two HGs that had to tell people over and over again that they were "good or nice people." I suppose they think that if they say it enough that they themselves and others might believe it. Of course, the effect is the opposite. Every time they say it their listerners remember all the counter examples. This deceiving mantra only serves to reinforce the known truth.

Richardfan

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What if Roddy had two questions prepared, the PB&J one, and a different one (the type a lot of people here thought he would ask).

Perhaps he saw the tone of the Q&A was decidedly anti-Dani and chose not to continue it and went with the soft question instead. D'ja ever think of that?

I doubt it because it might make Roddy seem like a good guy and that's simply not possible.

ETA: Hey Scorpiomoon, I got #100 & Hi Zachsmom, I saw that (thx) and I will be posting there sometime (need to gather my thoughts, I dropped them)