If votes are for "gamesmanship" then Danielle should win
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Rain

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I've been wavering back and forth on whether I'd like Dani or Lisa to win. But finally after some thought I've decided Dani would be my choice afterall, because she really played the game to win, and played with strategy, and played for the entire time. I admire and respect that.

Lisa, on the other hand, was too busy being Eric's bed partner to have any strategy other than that. And I don't respect that at all. I do respect how she played the game after he left, but that's not good enough.

I'm not on the jury, and I think either of these two people will be worthy of winning, but in the end, MY HOPES GO WITH DANI.

GO DANI. You played the game.

Lisad

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
First or 2nd - I'm pleased. But would prefer Dani take the big prize.

Go Dani!

Keiffer

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does gamesmanship include the ability to get people to like you like they did Jason even though you are the reason they wont win the 500k?

Blinky

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, I am complete agreement ... May the best player win. GO DANI!!!!!!

Wiseolowl

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was going to post this in the "things my father told me", but didn't. He had it framed in his office and reads(which is pertinent to Danni and her Christian beliefs):

"When the one Great Scorer comes to write against your name, it matters not whether you one or lost , but how you played the game."

Jaysgal

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gamesmanship trophy wouldn't go to any of the two [finalists]. Gamesmanship would go to one of the evicted houseguests.

Adrian

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Rain, I'm with you.

Moe

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree 100% and I hope Danielle wins, even though I like Lisa. I liked the fact Danielle stuck by Jason throughout the show. What is the criteria for choosing the 1st place winner anyways?. I thought legally this wasn't a game show, it's a reality show.

Ddr1135

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just my opinion, but the most critical moment for Danielle to stick by Jason was the boat HOH competition. Instead of holding on to win, she made a deal with Lisa and took her hand off the key.

Floresmama

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ddr1135 4 hours and 23 minutes she held on to that key. When she couldn't hold on any longer that is when she made the deal with Lisa and not before. Jason lasted for 45 minutes and his teeth were already chattering. Cut her a break I know I couldn't have held on for that long.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 03:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Agree with Rain 100%. It wasn't Dani's job to win for Jason, that was his, she held on for 41/2 hours and made a deal when she knew she wasn't going to last. She had every intention of taking Jason and not keeping the deal with Lisa which would have hurt her.

Lisad

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Trust me - I'll bet BB was getting REAL nervous over Dani's condition. Dani COULDN'T hold on to the key much longer. Anyone watching could see the pain she was in.

Jagger

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they voted on gamesmenship between the two I would have to vote for Danni, if it was between all the hgs I would vote for Jason.

Dallasbbfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani could have one this due to gameswomanship if only she hadn't had the nasty DRs. Roddy ruled in the DR.

Beserkknight2

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle has lost, therefore Lisa had the best
gamesmanship...

Cindyluvsroddy

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think 'Gamesmanship' includes your ability to pick HG's off each week and still get their vote in the end

Sunrisedd

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle played this game 24/7 from the moment she walked in the door. She should win for playing the game :)

Maris

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I give Lisa the kudos for gamesmanship. She played very low key and let everyone think she was dumb as a post. She even said it today to Dani, she would ask really dumb questions. She picked a great way to go, no threat apparently clueless.

She even has the evictged HGs wanting her to win because they all are so pissed at Dani. Not bad for an enigma. I think she will get Josh's vote in the end.

Keiffer

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IF Danny HAD been really "playing the game" 24/7 then she would have made sure to play to the evicted HG's as well as the ones inside the house. She NEVER did that. Part one of the game is to make it the jury vote, the other part is haveing the gamesmanship to get those evicted to vote for you to win the big money.

I still think Danny might pull of the vote tonight, and if she does then she truly did have the BEST gamesmanship. If Lisa gets the votes then she did. It is really a point that doesnt need to be debated because the vote tells us who did play the best.

Adrian

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, let's see who will win and who are wasting their time, life & blah blah, 24/7 in this board. :)

Keiffer

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
huh?

Trisha1

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of the two, Lisa gets my vote for gamesmanship.For the most part, she played low-key, in contrast to Danielle who didn't know when to shut-up. Of course, the one who played the best game is the one standing at the end with the big cheque. But if things could be otherwise neither one was my choice to go to the end.

Maryk

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am hoping that nastiness and mean-spiritedness will not be rewarded. They should vote for Danielle to lose.

Itsallgood

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree with the title of this thread. She let her mouth overload her. Goooo Lisa!

Fuddyduddy

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Dallasbbfan: This is a moot point, since Roddy is not in the finals, but I think his DR entries were so contrived...he was playing to the houseguests....without feeling, I believe.

He was constantly aware of the cameras, what he wanted to say and not say......don't know that he ever totally relaxed, as he seemed to be always "on".

As for Danielle.....(and I am not a fan of hers)I do think she came in with a plan and stayed focused. Don't like the way she trashed the HGs during and after they left the house. But it does seem as if she had to do lots of strategizing to keep things moving.

Toolhound

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Danni did start out playing a good game but she trashed everone in the house. The worst thing she did was stick it to Jason by making a deal with Lisa in the end. If anyone thinks she made that deal to help anyone but herself they did not have the live feeds and can't read. I know she did it for her family!!! I don't believe that either.

Wiseolowl

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 04:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I haven't been supportive of Danielle the last number of weeks, but in fairness , when that "kid" bowed out an hour into the competition - to then say Danielle somehow owed it to him to keep him in the game is not fair. I don't completely buy that he had a mental lapse - think it's more likely that he did it on purpose and left it on Danni's shoulders to win - if it was a lapse - with a half million on the line I don't feel a bit sorry for him. And I don't blame her for whatever she did after that.