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Tobor7

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was shocked (so was Eric) that Roddy asked such soft questions. I also felt Josh had one of the best questions. (One that I don't think he came up with by himself.)

Why do you think Roddy did this?

Loppes

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor,
I think Roddy did it, because he knew everyone expected a tough question from him. I think it was great reverse psychology.
Lon

Crossfire

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was not surprised by Roddy at all. I even speculated at one point that he might even vote for Dani. He didn't, but he did not embarrass himself by being petty either. He just let it go, and played a softball.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Josh is a very smart fellow who nonetheless is very insecure and wants acceptance from his Master. I personally think he came up with the question. I think Roddy did the "PB&J" question to preserve his reputation as an "awesome softie," a perception that will come in handy when he runs for mayor of Whoville.

Weinermr

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy was hurt and insulted by Danielle's "devil" comments. He had already decided who he was going to vote for, and there were no questions he needed to ask to help him decide how to vote.

Whoville notwithstanding.

Curlyq

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he did this so he wouldn't be giving Danielle the opportunity to defend whatever he held against her. That's also why I think Tonya didn't ask her about the things she said, even though she asked Lisa and gave her the chance to say she was sorry. She didn't want to hear Danielle apologize. In fact, Marcellas didn't address his issues with her either.

You could tell who already had their minds made up. I think they just came in with a "talk to the hand" attitude. Danielle should have used her final speech as an opportunity to give out the apologies she'd been planning to hand out at the cast party.

Misslibra

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy took the high road IMO. And I say good for him.

Loppes

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra,
Absolutely.
Lon

Betty

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ITA w/ Oregon. What's more wholesome and honest than a pbj?

Anyone else scream at their tv during the St. Roddy speech?

Tobor7

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Half way through her speech I realized IT WAS HER FINAL SPEECH. She didn't make the most of it.

The fact that Eric was so shocked (in my view of it) that Roddy asked what he did, tells me that either they didn't talk about it, or Roddy said he was going to ask something else and changed his mind at the last minute.

If you assume Roddy is a good guy, then he didn't want to make it harder on Dani than it was already going to be. What would be the point of that? He was hurt and didn't want to respond in kind.

If you assume Roddy is a bad guy, then he didn't want to appear bad on TV again and he had already talked everyone else into voting for Lisa and wanted it to hurt even more when she heard the final tally.


Personally, I think Roddy is a good guy. Not perfect, but a good guy.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 10:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Misslibra - abso-DOUBLE_lutely.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, you guys can vote for him if he comes to your district!

Northstar

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think it was two-fold. He took the high road, and he showed his hand to Dani through the simplicity of the question.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7 - "Why do you think Roddy did this? "

heheheh....I can't answer that question because I don't think he did...I saw absolutely no evidence of it.

It's like that old question that one political opponent could ask another just to make him look bad- "When exactly did you stop beating your wife?" :)

Muse

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Oregonfire. Roddy wanted to prove that he wasn't the devil that Danielle painted him to be - that he really was awesome (lol - I'm still amused by the "I've been awesome" quote - sorry, but it summarizes a whole lot of what Roddy says about himself in interviews and to other HGs, IMO :)). While I don't buy that at *all*, and while I think that he was sort of hoping that it might indirectedly cast Danielle in a negative light (since she was so worried about what he might say) in addition to making himself look good, I do have to give him credit. Although I think Danielle was ready to stand up for herself against him, I'm sure she was relieved that he opted not to attack her. She got enough from the other HGs, and there was nothing that Danielle could say to change Roddy's mind anyway. So while my opinion of Roddy didn't change because of that question (Roddy obviously did have ulterior motives - he thinks a lot about how he's perceived on the show, so of *course* he plans his words/actions carefully to reflect himself in the best light), I do think he made the best choice for himself *and* Danielle.

Tobor7

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sanfran--

You don't think Roddy asked soft questions?
(that was my question - sorry if confusing)

Oregonfire

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Very diplomatic, Muse. I did appreciate that he let Dani off the hook on that one, and did take the high road. I guess his motives are up to conjecture.

Sanfranjoshfan

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7 - Oh! I missunderstood....with your first post and the thread title "Did Josh ask Roddy's question for him? " and then "Why do you think Roddy did this?"...I just didn't realize you were asking "Why did Roddy ask a soft question?". :)

I think Roddy just already knew what he was going to ask and had no reason to make Dani squirm...lord knows she had been squirming for two days already!

In fact...now that I think about it, Roddy is SUCH a nice guy! :)

Zachsmom

Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 11:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Josh asked his own question (quite good actually)

and Roddy asked his question (which was excellent by the way)..if you don't get Roddy's question then you don't understand what an excellent sense of humor the man has!!! I LMBO at that question!!! GO RODDY!!!

Tobor7

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 01:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom--

As I think about it, very subtle humor. Excellent, you are correct.

I think Josh had the best question of the bunch.

Oregonfire

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, I don't get it. What's so subtle about PB&J? Everyone knows that Dani hated eating it. What am I missing?

Tobor7

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well---

I hope ZM tosses one is as well here, but I think it could go a few different ways---


(In Roddy's mind is the following)

You described your dislike for PPJ a lot better than you described your dislike for me. See, I knew you could do it. It wasn't that hard.

I know you hate PPJ, and you're going to hate what is about to happen even more.

You're going to be "eating" a lot of something you don't like. (crow)

We've heard the same things out of your mouth so much, so I'll give you a chance to say it again, and again, and again--- once again.

I'm going to ask you the only question I care to hear the answer to.

Never ask a question you don't know the answer to.


Anyone got anything better? (As far as what he meant by his question. Let's not get into a "thing" here.)

Northstar

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tobor7, sheesh-thanks for this perspective. Now I have to go find her words verbatim. That sly little Roddy! Oh, and Oregonfire, thanks for asking.

Oregonfire

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 02:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay, that's good enough for me. Thanks for brainstorming, Tobor. I always thought Rod was a smarty, but not especially witty. Maybe he had that one cooking in his head for a while.

Eden

Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 03:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I disagree SanFran. I don't see Roddy's question to Danielle as "taking the high road" or being a nice guy. I think it was his way of negating Danielle completely, giving her no respect, letting her know his mind was made up and there was no reason to ask a meaningful question when it had no bearing at all on his decision, all the while still "appearing" to be a great guy. Naturally, most fell for it. Lapping up his shenanigans the way the HGs did in the house. It was a last subtle dig Roddy style! The kind that stings, later!