So, Do you think Dani THREW the Comp?
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Tobor7

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She told Jason she would throw the comp.
The way it was edited, it looked like she was going as fast as she could.
On station 3 jason was 2:30 ahead of her though.
I don't know. IF she did throw it she (or BB editors) made it look good.
That do you think?

Maris

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!

Craziel

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She was probably ordered by BB not to.

Tobor7

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting.

Maris

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
she said she threw it. She said she did not want to win it because she gave her word to lisa and didnt want to be proven a liar. That tells me she threw it.

Cassie

Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Do bears crap in the woods?

Wendo

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, actually, I believe she said in the diary room that, No she didn't throw it but she took her time to be methodical and accurate. She also hoped that Jason would go through the course quicker than her.

In addition, Jason wanted her to throw it, he asked her to.

Betty

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Took her time? Heck yeah, she took time, waaay too much time. Jason ran between stations, Dani took casual strolls. She complained about the jelly but took her time to slather on a mound of both pb and jelly instead of just putting on a tiny bit of both. The laundry water looked like she stopped it above the line. Of course Jason was two minutes ahead of her by #3. She knew she was going to the F2 with either of them. I suspect she knew she would stand a better chance against Lisa than Jason and this was just a play not to have to honor her word to Jason.

Beserkknight2

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What was so funny, though, was that Jason almost
lost it anyway...he was one nervous wreck the
whole stretch of the HOH competition. Pitiful.

Letmeinthere

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 06:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dani knew it was smooth sailing to the final 2 since she made the deal with Lisa as soon as it was just the three of them left. She didn't have to win HoH - not even to keep her alliance with jason going.

Bmh

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Danielle took her time...but she did say she did NOT throw the competition..she always tells the DR when she throws challenges but this time she didn't..I think she really got stuck with the PB&J we all know how much she hates it and she had to eat the jelly too..so that took up alot of her time..Jason on the other hand wolfed his sandwich down and was at the next station in a matter of 30 seconds or so..So I think that was the main factor in Dani's loss

Fruitbat

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
She did not want to win it. She was hoping Jason would. She said she did not throw it but instead took her time. In a challenge that requires speed to win, taking you time certainly implies you are not going for the win. Semantics. Of course she threw it.

This is not meant as criticizm, I like Dani. Her choice to thow it is allowed. It is a strategic move. Most HG's do that at least once.

Bb3friend

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In the end Dani "scumbagged" Jason. She may not have thrown the comp but she certainly didn't try her hardest. If she was to remain true to her allaince she would have done everything in her power to win and made sure she took Jason all the way. She used him just like everyone else along the way. The ultimate betrayal. I was also not surprised that she was really mad at him for letting go of the key. She expected HIM to stay out there for her.

Lucymac

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:28 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think she did throw it and is just saying differently at this point in an 11th hour attempt to win votes. She didn't complete two of the tasks in time that involved getting the houseguests in order and I think she remembers such details very well and doesn't seem to panic either, so I have to conclude it was intentional. It was her option to do so.

Coyote

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
BB3friend I agree with you 100 percent

Gritss

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 07:53 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Does it really matter? Whether she or Jason won #2, Lisa would still need to lose #3 for Jason to make the finals. Maybe she thought Jason would be the better player in #3.

Liddiebug

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 11:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I also agree with BB3friend 100%. Dani accused Roddy of using people to do his dirty work, and this is just what SHE did to Jason for the entire game, right down to the end. If their "alliance" was so good, why didn't she take the hard work every once in a while...like winning HOH and having to evict a houseguest herself earlier in the game. She used and abused that boy! And what's more sad is that he let her! If it were not for Jason, Dani would have never made it to the final 3...JMHO. She just makes me sick!

VOTE FOR LISA!!!

Wiseolowl

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She threw it allright - sauntering around from station to station - but that's Danni. If you like her and realized Jason had to go - it's strategic - if you don't ,then she's cold and calculating - a matter of perception . I have my own perception but who cares what I think. Just know in real life I would stay far , far away.

Llkoolaid

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I went back and watched the tape. I don't think she threw it, even though it was agreed by her and Jason that she would, she seemed to be going just as fast as Jason, the only difference was the pbj. We all know she hates it and we all saw how fast Jason ate those twinkies. Could it be that she just lost, could it be that she told the truth in the DR like she always has. No, I guess not, that would be a waste of another excuse to sh#t on Dani and we couldn't waste one of those, that would be terrible, why there is actually one thread out there that hasn't turned into a bash Dani thread, we better do something about that.

Catfat

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am not so sure Danielle has been throwing as many comps. as she would want us to believe. She probably really could not win very much so she used "I threw the competition" to cover up her ineptitude. (Is that a word?)

Llkoolaid

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or maybe when she says "she threw the competition" she means she didn't give it her best effort, or she didn't try to win, or she made sure she lost. I don't remember her saying she could have won them, just that she threw them, which by the way a lot of the hgs did. Lisa came on pretty strong when she had to. I wonder if she threw a few or was also just inept( I don't know if that is a word either.)

I like both these players and will be happy for whoever wins, which will probably be Lisa. They both did a great job, both used great stategy, both worked very hard, both were lucky, both made mistakes, both used other people, and both trashed other hgs, and IMO both deserve to win.

Itsallgood

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Of course she threw it. That is her M. O. get others to do the dirty work and she reaps the benefits. She did that in the 1st part of the HOH comptetion, but b-4 she let go of that key, she made damn sure she was going to the end, selling out her BEST FRIEND while doing it.

Max

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, I think she threw it. She's just good at making it LOOK like she didn't. As has been pointed out, she didn't rush between tasks. The PB&J gave her a really easy way to waste time and still act like she was trying. As has also been pointed out, she could have put much less PB and/or J on that sandwich and been just fine. The kicker for me was when she casually walked over to station 3. She was not in a hurry AT ALL and it seemed pretty obvious. If she wanted to win, she would have hustled.

Yeah, she knew she had a ticket to the finals either way. Well played, Danielle! I'm betting that the DR told her to make sure to do her best and that afterwards they asked her if she threw it. At that point, there is NO WAY she would admit throwing it.

Overall, I think Dani played the most savvy game of all the HGs, but that doesn't mean I want her to win.

Go Lisa!!!

Kendalia

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 12:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a REAL problem when people insinuate that Dani was stabbing Jason in the back by making sure she went to the end instead of him.

Just what the heck was she supposed to do?? Her first choice was her and Jason as the final two, but if it could be only one of them she had EVERY RIGHT IN THE WORLD to want it to be her rather than him. If she hadn't, people would have said she was an idiot, just like they said about Jason when he said he'd rather Dani make it to the final two than him.

Geez! Get a grip!

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't know if she "threw it" but I do think she took her time to make sure she finished each task accurately. However, she did hope that Jason finished quicker than her.

Had Ja completed six tasks to her three, then I think her throwing it would be obvious.

However, Jason only completed one more task than Dani. So, I don't think it can be said with certainty that she threw it.

Seamonkey

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I just remember how fast Monica, Nicole, Will.. and Jason moved. Dani just ambled.. makes no sense if you really want to win.

And if she won part 2 she still could have lost to Lisa in part 3.

She had no intention of being the one to make the decision.

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 02:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Sea, true, a good argument. However, she did know that Jason wanted to be in control of his own destiny. He not only told her, but he told us as well in the diary room.

Perhaps she didn't throw it, but played it slow and steady to give Jason the chance to win it.

He only got one more task done. (And, had he messed up one or two tasks, Dani could've conceivably won.)

I wonder what they would've done had Jason and Dani completed the same number of tasks?

Cc1976

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the Jason fans are just doing the "sour grapes" routine. Now you're mad at Dani for not beating Jason in the 2nd part of the competition? Jason himself wanted to be the one who faced Lisa. So are you saying you would have wanted Dani to ignore Jason's wishes and beat him in the 2nd competition?

"I am not so sure Danielle has been throwing as many comps. as she would want us to believe. She probably really could not win very much so she used "I threw the competition" to cover up her ineptitude. (Is that a word?)"

I totally agree with that, Cat. I think that was very apparent when Dani made the comment that she "let" Lisa have the 1st part of the competition. She knew Lisa had her beat and she was simply trying to save face. Dani looked in rough shape, almost like she was on the verge of seizure, meanwhile Lisa looked calm and composed. No way did Dani "let" her win.

Gail

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 04:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Maybe Jason is the one that threw the competition? By this point in the game, you really care about each other, and it is obvious that he did care about both Lisa and Danielle a lot as good friends. He probably felt the least painful option (for him) was to throw the competition and let Lisa vote him out. I don't think it was ever about the money for him - just about having a good time and playing the game.

Lainee

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether she threw the comp or not...I agree with Itsallgood...Danielle made darn sure she was gonna be in the final two. Did she stab Jason in the back? Well she certainly didn't tell him everything about her deal with Lisa. Will Jason be hurt by the treatment at Danielle's hand...I somehow don't think so...he has always maintained he wanted Danielle to have the 500 thousand. Did Lisa play dirty and underhanded by waiting till Danielle was shivering and shaking in pool? You could well say that Lisa took advantage of Danielle in that moment, but you could just as well say that Lisa did what she had to do.

And I say GO LISA!!!!

Woodpecke®

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:49 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Danielle threw the competition. She tried to do the tasks, but showed no urgency in completing them quickly. Her lack of honesty throughout the latter part of this game was completely selfish and cost her the money. Gail says something I would like to talk about and analyze. Many people on this board are mad at Danielle for her selfish treatment of the other players, especially Jason. I agree. She is all about herself. I was and still am a Jason supporter. I really wanted him to win this game. He is a nice person and played the game in a way he can be proud. Jason choked. He blew it. Danielle didn't blow it for him. He had numerous chances to put himself in control of this game without compromising his beliefs and morals. He needed to evict Lisa. He didn't. He needed to be more rested the day of the final HOH competition. He wasn't. He was up very early that day, I saw him and Danielle talking strategy while Lisa and Amy snoozed. Lisa beat him fair and square. If you are on a game where they are giving away $500,000, YOU HAVE TO WANT THE MONEY. He obviously didn't want the money enough. He proved to be quite lazy. I don't blame Danielle for him losing $500,000. Lisa earned it. She was the best player. She came prepared on Thursday to triumph. She succeeded. She dominated. She embarrassed them. Lisa = Winner.

Crazydog

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Whether she threw it or just took her time to be careful, it's all the same. The end result is that she did not want to win it. If she had really wanted to win it she would have been tearing through those tasks no matter how unpleasant. Didn't Will Nicole and Monica all finish 6 or 7 of them? Dani did three right?

I think that BB should have insinuated to both Dani and Jason that perhaps the loser of round 2 would be evicted. Then we would have seen how fast she really could have moved.

In the end it doesn't matter since Lisa won HoH anyways, but I'm hoping that the evicted houseguests are smart enough to figure out what happened. Especially the way it was edited with the Dani and Lisa promise in the boats followed so closely by Dani taking her sweet time to try to get to the finals.

Wendo

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Crazydog, yeah, Will and Nicole finished more tasks, however, their's were different tasks than what Jason and Dani had to complete. Nic and Will's were more of the household chore variety. Where as, Ja and Dani's included them having to know what happened in the game (Order of eviction, order of PoV - I would've had a hard time with this one, and order of HOH.)

Crazydog

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, sorry. thanks Wendo, I never watched that competition on the internet after it was unaired so I didn't know it wasn't the same.