Jason played the final HOH so badly....
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Bomom

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Puck-
I think you hit the nail on the head. I also think that Jason's modesty would not permit him to identify himself as attractive, wonderful, or any other very complementary trait.

PS: He was also a bundle of nerves.

Bbfanatic

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
one of the posters on these boards said that each year the person they had been rooting for comes in 3rd. they said jason look like he may be coming in third. it looks like it happened again? i cant remember which one of us has had that happen.

i want lisa to win and i dont believe jason threw the comp. i think he lost it. he didnt have dani telling him what to do.

Costacat

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh please. Jason just flat out couldn't take the pressure. He "lost concentration" in the pool? Danielle and Lisa didn't. And Lisa so completely aced him during the third part yesterday.

That final comp, by the way, was NOT skewed towards male or female. Jason just couldn't handle the pressure and choked, big time. Lisa was determined to win, she remained calm and thought out her answers. I think she also was a better listener than Jason, and so might have been able to presuppose who would've said what about which HG. Remember, Jason is pretty blinded to Danielle whereas I think Lisa saw Danielle for the exact person she portrayed in the house.

Jason just couldn't handle the pressure and wimped out.

Bbfanatic

Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
many have pointed out in the past that lisa is young and not as worldly as others ( because of not knowing what a plum was or about ribs ), so it doesnt make sense to say that is why he lost the contest. i didnt quite catch if these were things the others said about dani, jason, or lisa while they were still in the house or now, after they had been evicted. couldnt that make a difference in the answers? i know at first i started answering as if it was while they were in diary room (or just on shows or feeds) and then i started thinking maybe it is what they think of them now. i didnt quite catch that part of it.

Weary_Watcher

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Jason threw the competition. I think he's a better "player" than we think.
I think he wanted Danielle to win and he knew he'd beat her in the final 2 and didn't want to do that. I think he knew Danielle would only have a chance against Lisa, if at all.
I know we have different perspectives from the outside, but Jason is just that kind of guy. I think he sacrificed himself for the girls.

Missy2

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 05:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey it happens. There was a lot at stake. Overall Jay played a good game.

Watching2

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 06:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Aren't Jason & Lisa the same age or close to it? Lisa has been picked on for not knowing certain things and being "clueless." Jason gets excused for not knowing things because of his innocence.

I don't think either are good representations of either of them. Both of have lived in the "Big City" and while Jason may choose not to discuss certain things, I can't believe he hasn't at least "heard of them." His is a man, not a boy, as Danielle often said! Also, he knew Marcellas was gay. Who was the likely choice on that? Of course it was him! He may not have wanted to think Marcellas thought that about him, but most school yard kids know what gay is and means these days.

I think the rubber boat incident may have been a fluke, but those ladies were hanging on to their keys for dear life! I think Jason either just didn't read the houseguests as well as Lisa or he choked. He looked like a nervous wreck to me and Lisa seemed cool and calm, no matter what she was feeling inside.

I do think it would have been ridiculous for him to throw the last competition since he was so close to accomplishing what he and Dani planned all along. Both of them in the final two. They WERE the dynamic duo.

Lisa just got her act together and did what she had to do. It makes you wonder when she said she would be surprised if she didn't win the last HOH, if she was holding a lot of things "up her sleeve" she never let on to anyone about. (And no I don't mean Tarot cards LOL) JMO :)

Ryn

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a problem with the competitions in this aspect......

During each HoH competition involving the quizes, Julie would basically keep them all up to date on who was winning/who was left. I wish they would NOT do that, then they would have to play hard, or, if they were gonna throw it - throw it badly.

Jason was elimited in the 3rd part about 5 questions in, there was no need for Julie to ask any more because he could not come back. I think he knew this and kinda gave up, and Lisa also knew she had won, the last 3 or 4 q's were pointless.

I think that next year when they do those kind of quizzes and they are all blindfolded, they should just make sure the eliminated people step aside and not say WHO it is, and not how many are left, until one person wins.

Shadowkat

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Ryn. Even if they did the quizzes next year, instead of giving updates after each question they could continue asking the questions, not letting the hgs know who got the answers right or wrong. What they could do is just say something like "3 hgs answered that question correctly" and move on to the next question. Once the winner is determined, they could announce not only the winner, but how each hg placed in the competition. This way, if someone wanted to throw a competition, they would have to be obvious about it and get all or most of the answers incorrect, thus "showing their cards" to the remaining hgs.

Kellirippa

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
That is brilliant Shadowkat, I love that idea.

I do like this particular quizz as the final HOH, it lets the winner know how the jury feels about the other two and gives them a good idea about who they can beat.

Marysafan

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I totally agree with weary_watcher. I think Jason threw it. I went to bed thinking "Geez Jason...you were dummer than a box of rocks tonight!" I woke up realizing that Jason is not that dumb. He threw it. It was never about the money for Jason ...it was always about the experience. Comment to Julie: "I was in EVERY episode!"

He wanted Danielle to get to he final two. He considered it his job to get her there. When he learned that Danielle had a deal with Lisa, he gave it a great deal of thought. They were all trying to figure out the jury votes and Jason probably figured out that Danielle would stand a better chance of winning against Lisa. I think the good Christian boy ...made a decision from his heart. Comment to Julie: "I gave it a lot of thought and I have made my decision." Jason did not need to give a lot of thought to the decision of eviction ...so I am assuming he was referring to a decision to bow out.

Why I think he threw it...the Amy question.

Who is strong....who is sweet ...who is precious? How many times did Amy call him precious? There is no way logically that he could have not known the answer to that question. It is way too obvious...Dani is strong, Lisa is sweet, Jason is precious.

I love Jason dearly...and yes he could have "caved" under pressure...but I honestly think he threw it. He got what he came for ...He "made every episode" ...and he really wanted to give Dani the best chance to win the money. And yes...when I realized what he did ...I cried.

Maris

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
well if that is the case, I hope his mother slaps him upside the head and says "What were you thinking???"

Hummingbird

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jason didn't throw the final competition but Dani obviously threw round 2, betraying Jason.

Hypermom

Monday, September 23, 2002 - 09:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Considering Jason told her to throw it, she didn't betray him.

Ptomaine

Friday, September 27, 2002 - 04:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marysafan,

Amy may have called Jason precious many times, this I don't recall, but I do remember that she called him sweet in a memorable event. When answering that 2nd question, Jason was smiling and didn't seem to have any doubt. Lisa was unsure of her answer.

What probably did Jason in was getting this 2nd question wrong when Jason was sure that it was right... what can shake someone's confidence more? Jason didn't have any reason to think otherwise... "sweet" was what Amy told him out of her own mouth.

Here is a live transcript and a verbatim transcript from a clip I have.

"A tells D to stop laughing we love sugar, she's not joking Sugar is sweet, she loves him."

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Here is the verbatim transcript from video clips provided by Citrona-X

Lisa and Amy are sitting on Jason's bed wearing his undies, and Amy has on Jason's shirt. Lisa is there to kiss Jason per her AC chat for the internet people. Dani is laying on the adjacent bed.

J: So you guys have plans? ...(except)... Appologized to Dan-Dan?

The girls laugh.

... (excerpt) ...

Jason laughs nervously. Lisa is smiling broadly and makes eyes contact with Amy like they have something mischevious on their minds. Jason notices this and asks:

What LiLi?

Somebody's about to do something and I'm about to run.

D: That's it!

The girls laugh again.

... (excerpt) ...

A: Dani why don't you quit laughing it's not funny. We love sugar.

L: I'm not the actress that people want me to be.

A: I'm not an actress, I really do love Sugar, I think sugar's sweet... (excerpt) ... I'm serious I'm not joking I think Sugar's sweet.