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Zachsmom

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 08:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL.. he was funny.. what is he up to now..does he have a website?

Bgood

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 09:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chia-pet in that low-intelligence conversation, claims R.S. before she left him in Laguna gave her a beautiful "Robert Lee Morris" piece of jewelry (I think it was a pin) with a design of two hearts and he told her, he wanted the two hearts to become one when she gets back.....
Maybe..... She was just doing an ad for "Robert Lee Morris" jewelry?"

Twiggyish

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 09:50 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought maybe you were Chicken George! I miss him.

Delilah

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kent replied to me and basically he doesn't know any of this, he thinks we should contact Roger ourselves and ask him to confirm/deny. Hmmmm. Anyway I replied again with more detail and will let ya'll know what he has to say. Seems like he hasn't been keeping up to date with this years hamsters (well at least not yesterday LOL) I am sure he doesn't want to get involved.

Kaili

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Interesting- thanks for letting us know Delilah! I don't see myself attempting to contact this Roger guy...he probably doesn't respond to most of his own messages anyway. Personal secretaries and all that!

Delilah

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Kaili, maybe if Kent was up to speed he would be as outraged as we are, but I doubt it. Still I'll let ya know if he has further comments!

No way would I contact Roger, I would not want to get myself into the middle of that LOL

Kaili

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Can you believe the racist/homophobic stuff going on now- that might deserve a thread soon!

They should have discussed that in code! (Trying to stay on topic, Kaili tosses in a line about codes... :) )

Niceguy

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara may be in for a long ride in a car trunk followed by a dirt nap. But I hope not.

Angelsluv

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The statement of her's about dating the owner of the WTC is wrong to begin with..

The owners of the WTC are Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

http://www.skyscraper.org/tallest/t_wtc.htm

Delilah

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Found this, courtesy of Realitytvplanet: Chiara and Roger Silverstein


Allegedly, Chiara has been dating a New York City millionaire. In fact, he was the reason why she got on BigBrother. Chiara was with him in Los Angeles while he was out visiting with his divorced wife and two children. While she was visiting in LA, she met with the BigBrother Producers.

While talking to Lisa and Tonya, Chiara says that she has a secret and that her family does not know about this. She said that she is secretly dating a high-profile, New York millionaire. Chiara is worried about loosing him, due to some of her behavior in the house. Chiara does not want to say directly who this person is, so she makes up a code. All vowels are a finger snap A=1 snap E=2 snaps I=3 snaps O=4 snaps U=5 snaps. All consonants are codes words: B=banana, D=Danger, L=lollipop, M=mango, S=sandwich, T=tangerine, V=Victor etc... She spells out the name, Roger Silverstein.

Rodger Silverstein is the son of Larry Silverstein, who owns Silverstein Properties. Like Donald Trump, Larry Silverstein is a developer. He developed several sky scrappers in New York City (e.g., River Place Apartments and Seven World Trade Center). In April of 2001, Silverstein Properties (along with Westfield America) signed a 99-year lease for the World Trade Center from the Port Authority. This lease was worth about $3.2 billion, and was the richest real estate transaction in New York history. Larry Silverstein oversees more than 10 million sq. ft. of Manhattan office space, including the US's largest apartment complex.

Larry’s son, Roger, is 38 years old, tall and thin and competes in triathalons and half-marathons. He has two children, both boys--Robby is 10, Cory is 7. He married Liana Chen Silverstein at a young age, and he is recently divorced. Rodger is the Vice President of Silverstein Properties.

Allegedly, Chiara has been dating Roger for about three months, and he gave her a beautiful Robert Morris necklace—two hearts. But, she knows that Roger is not exclusively dating her. She says that he has other girlfriends. But, nevertheless, she is afraid of losing him, if she hooks up with someone in the house.

Kaili

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ahh...so someone did get a hold of the info! This is SO going to come back to haunt her!

BTW Delilah- Check your folder- I made you some Josh pics!

Kaili

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:02 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ooh. I have to be in class in 6 hours so I need to get to bed soon :( I'll probably stick it out another 10-15 minutes.

I'll be back tomorrow night though!

Delilah

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
ROFL Kaili!! Those are amazin! How did you do it?! I will find you some and put them in your folder. Heee Heee this is fun! Nite and thanks!

Sorry for being OT again!

Kaili

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:16 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's all about Adobe PhotoShop and the distort features- I just select sections of the picture and pinch or spherize as needed. The Sick Josh picture is done with the burn tool and some other one right next to it. You can whiten faces and then redden parts so they look beat up or sunburned- it's great!

But yeah...the code...I thought of a code I would use to talk about/mention people in the house. Each chapter of a book would represent a houseguest in alphabetical order. (Ch 1- Amy, etc).
Or a page number that corresponds to a letter of the alphabet. Probably would be hard to do, and with these people it would be impossible to wait for them to count on their fingers to what letter I was referring to. My name is now 11, 1, 9, 12, 9

Amac

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This has become a story in today's Chicago Sun Times:

'Big Brother' gossip slips out on Web

July 16, 2002

BY PHIL ROSENTHAL TELEVISION CRITIC

If you only watch "Big Brother" on TV, you aren't really seeing "Big Brother."

True devotees swear the best show isn't the one aired three times a week on CBS, but rather the one that runs 24/7 on the Internet.

Video voyeurs monitoring the live, round-the-clock online feed at www.cbs.com already say they've seen players shower together, give each other shaving-cream bikinis and, until a producer figured out what was happening Sunday afternoon, potentially slander the wife of a man with whom one of the players claimed to have had an affair.

And this year's show is only in its first week.

Chiara, a 25-year-old marketing rep from New York, thought she was being clever, creating a code for her housemates so she could tell them all about her sex life. The only problem is she explained the code in front of some of the 40 cameras and 60 microphones that make "Big Brother" what it is.

So Sunday, when she started talking (by name, albeit in the code she very clearly delineated) about a well-to-do Manhattanite with a home in the Hamptons and his "bipolar" wife, the Internet chat rooms went berserk.

"This was brought to our attention about an hour after it happened," executive producer Arnold Shapiro said Monday. "Neither Allison [Grodner, another executive producer] nor I have seen the tape or read the transcripts yet.

"As soon as the staff figured out the code, they blocked them [and cut off the feed]. They didn't know what they were hearing until they interpreted it. As soon as they interpreted it, it was off."

But not before "Big Brother" fans--16,000 of whom subscribe to the Internet feed--started messaging one another with this juicy gossip about the man and his wife.

Because the Internet feed is live, producers and everyone else connected with the show have to be very careful--out of legal considerations, if nothing else--about what's released to the public. Contestants are briefed ahead of time on defamation and privacy laws, and release forms are secured from their families and friends. But that's apparently not enough.

"Obviously we don't want anybody to be slandered or defamed in any way, so we have a cutoff," Shapiro said. "We have a switch by which we can cut off the Internet as soon it becomes apparent that that's what's happening. Again, it's a human system and we do our best to do that whenever we hear something."

The first season of "Big Brother" prohibited players from using codes to communicate with one another, but that rule was relaxed last year when Shapiro took over.

"We are going to continue to talk to these people about talking about people who [haven't signed] releases," he said. "It's nothing that we want to happen."

No matter how interesting it might be.

Halfunit

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:15 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Amac - that was enjoyable reading!!

Jkm

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow!

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks for that article, Amac!!

Score one big one for us!

Internet freaks w/no lives - 1
BB3 bigmouthed chicks   - 0

Crazykids

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL!........ never underestimate the power of the "internet freaks"

Sadlady12

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:07 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I wondered how long it would take this to get out. Apparantly not too long, huh?

I don't get the feeds yet but I've been reading the posts to keep up with everything. This girl really needs to get a life.

I am wondering too about the possibilty of CBS getting sued by other applicants who were passed up so that they could go scout for their contestants this season. Eric says he was scouted, Lisa, Chiara. There are way too many public ties, as with Amy and Gerry, for this to all be coincidence. I don't buy it. They put the people in they wanted and never gave a chance to many applicants.

Anyone's opinions?

Merlin

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
16,000 people paying $25 generates $400,000. This is a drop in the bucket in the whole scheme of things.

Shapiro will have to pay more than that just to get an attorney to listen to what has happened much less try to do damage control.

It wouldn't surprise me to find a lot of FOTH in the future. A less of a surprise would be Shapiro pulling the plug on live feeds next year.

Zachsmom

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Merlin "A less of a surprise would be Shapiro pulling the plug on live feeds next year."

and a no-brainer for a no-show the year after!

Sanfranjoshfan

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he might realize that the internet community does have the power to create some buzz and raise interest in the TV show. Remember the Justin knife situation? The "internet freaks" forced them to acknowledge the incident which led to multiple stories in the papers on ET and Access Hollywood, etc...

As for the $400K total for 16000 subscribers....you know that goes to Real, who keeps some to make a profit....I'm sure Arnie doesn't have to pay that much!

JMO

Emjaycue

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
But you also have to consider that this is free publicity and will only cause more people (at least in the Chicago area) to tune into one or more episodes of the actual show (what they really care about).

No publicity is bad publicity, as they say...

--M

Merlin

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 09:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Zachsmom,it would be interesting to see what happened if Shapiro cut out the internet fans. There is no real way to know how many people are only watching the televised version because of what they can read on various message boards.

It is easy to know how many people are willing to pay for live feeds, but what is the count of viewers who would never miss the live feeds and continue to support the televised portion?

It has always seemed to me that the internet fans have been more of a pain in the rear for the producers when it comes to the producers getting what they want out to the TV audience.

I know I would lose interest in the TV portion if I didn't have access to the internet portion. My question is.......do 16,000 people make or break this show?