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Lurknomore

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Know what gets me? If they were gonna just ignore the entire audition process (even though they faked it and publicized it) and lie about using "real people" on reality tv, ok fine. Not really, but for arguments sake ok fine. But if they were gonna hand pick people, this is the best they could do??? Why not go after the Drew and Kevin's of the world if they were gonna go after people?

Were is the wit? The personality? The charm? Lot's and lot's of sex talk, which is clearly what the powers that be think will sell. But couldn't they find some amusing perverts??? :)

Cameltoes

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tracked down? Are they going through people's FBI files to find contestants now? Seriously, do they just send out a contestant finding crew at spots where they think pretty people are?

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well if I was to bet this is how they found some folks so far from what has been said:

Gerry--they saw him on "The Chair" and added plus the connection with his wife and the Murphy Brown show. So he was, via various sources, familiar to them.

Lisa--admitted they called her last minute. She had been on some trash show that someone posted in a another thread. Don't recall what.

Josh--I would wager cash from what he has said he is a friend of Mike Boogies.

Amy--still not sure the "in" but she did mention something about beauty pagents early on. She has probably done some industry work and they were familiar with it.

Ok I know I'm forgetting more stuff like this. What else?

Lostinthefog

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Makes one wonder why Arnold and Co. go through the charade of having nationwide tryouts when they seem to do their casting through talent agents and the "cold soliciting" of reality show stereotypes.

Bastable

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurk, Lisa was on Ricki Lake's "Dateless and Desperate on New Year's Eve" episode. This according to Josh from last night's feeds.

So, which of our HGs actually got in honestly from the nationwide audition?

(And how many thousands of people wasted, like, a day of their lives applying for ASs?)

Fabnsab

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget that Marcellas's ex is dating an old "real world" person. Not that that's too fishy but what are the chances of two people in the same circle making it on a reality show.

In watching the dating shows(i rarely do,wink,wink), I see alot of the same people reused from show to show. I do think these shows have talent scouts who will use people if they think they'll fill a need.

Keiffer

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is there evil in producers of a tv show handing out cards, and extending invitations to audition for their show even if it is a reality show? I don't think there is an evil plot to fool the puclic here. That if they had gotten a person they wanted from the send in applications they would interview them. If a producer was in a bar and there was a hot bartender there why not ask her if she has any interest?

IF we liked the people they put in the house (and some on here semm to hate this years cast) we could care less how they got there, we would just be happy they were there.

Cliotheleo

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:06 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL! Y'all are definately more conspicacy-minded than me. But I've always been too trusting.

Anyway, the impression I got from what Amy was saying was "I don't feel like my chances are strong for staying in the house all summer, so I'm gonna act like I don't want to stay and will be more than happy to leave when I do when in reality, that's not the case."

Who is Marcellus' ex dating?

Corriecat

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching when Amy was talking. She made her tape as a joke to make her roomate laugh but was not serious about getting on the show. A channel 3 guy made the tape for her. So she must have gone to an open call at the tv station. When Gerry said something about they shouldn't be talking about this it cut to FOTH and I missed his comments.

Bastable

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think the poster who has the most information about this topic should collect it and send it to a few magazines (like the guy who edits the News and Notes section in Entertainment Weekly.)

I think it's disgusting that a show solicits for applicants and yet casts most of them in-house. But it's common-- Keith Famie from "Survivor: Australia" was a well-known TV personality in his area, and that's just for starters.

I think it's worth a magazine expose.

Mare

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What I'd like to know is, why don't they get some people on the show that actually LOOK like "real people". I mean, get some women in there with cellulite who need to lose some pounds. Okay, I know they got that one guy (forgot his name) who's overweight, but every girl in that house has a "thong body" and it makes me sick.
They gotta have 2 girls on that are a size 2, another that has fake boobs (should've had the work done on her teeth), another blonde who I'm sure wouldn't be caught dead without make up on, etc.
Real women are NOT like that.

Bastable

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd much rather watch a show full of average-looking evil geniuses and connivers than one full of sex-obsessed prettyboys and silicone farms. Sadly, I must be in the minority.

Ryanc2002

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The problem is, Bastable that the average people get on a show like BB and it becomes summer camp.

Bastable

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah, but now we're in for a campy summer instead!

;-)

...unless you cast people with real personality (the early Real World, early Survivor.. I think The Mole does a terrific job in casting)

Cameltoes

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think BB has casting problems in part because of the appeal of the show and the monetary prize relative to a show like Survivor. Survivor can get average looking evil genuises because more people are attracted to sign up for the show. Personally I think raising the BB payout to a million dollars would attract a more interesting pool of applicants.

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm not sure that's it Camel (though it couldn't hurt). I think it all boils down to Arnie's vision of the show. He was brought in to spice it up last year, and to him "eye candy" is what sells. He admittedly has never wanted a web audience or participation.

Personally I think he should just go make a nice show for Fox and give us back our BB. Bring in someone who has studied what has made the show successful around the world and adapt it slightly for American tastes. I'm such a dreamer though...

Cameltoes

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah his vision of the show is definitely an issue but they even had problems with BB1 casting. I liked the show and the group but most were definitely too aware of the cameras. So I think the problems predate Shapiro. Actually since he took over the houseguests are still too aware of the cameras and the show but they just take it to a different extreme. I hate hearing them discuss "Will this make the show" and "getting the Emmy" and things like that. The focus should just be on living in the house and playing the game. I don't know if houseguests in other countries are this way but I find it odd compared to other reality shows.

Ryanc2002

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The only way to truely see what it would be like sticking 12 strangers in a house is for it to be like the Truman Show, they don't know they're being taped, and the cameras don't Whir in the night.

Onlyhuman

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 02:46 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd just like to see a balance...

We've had really nice people with little plotting and planning...the audience voted out the interesting ones.

We've had self-absorbed fame-wh*res who have schemed for air time and formed all kinds of alliances. They voted each other out.

How about nice, normal people who have to vote each other out?? That should cause SOME kind of mental breakdown and torment that we can enjoy!

Or a house of narcissists with the audience participating in the voting process? At least we would feel some kind of investment in the show.

Right now we just have a bunch of beautiful people trying to playact the roles from last year. Been there, done that...time for something new!

Stinky

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cameltoes--I should have been a little clearer in my post. Chiara's father said they kept tracking her through the store, as in following her. I'll
see if I can find the article.

Cameltoes

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yeah I figured that. The idea of FBI stuff just amused me :)

Sweaty

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
IMO the casting is fine. They got an old person, a few minorities, a gay person, etc. I expect things to heat up both romantically and competitively. It's still early. Gerry seems more a misfit for this group than Marcellus. I'm a Tonya fan. I don't hold her multiple kids or wonderful cleavage against her. I liked it when she said she was going to hate going without sex for 3 months. I hope she doesn't.

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
great...let's forget the demographics. Who of this group has a really great sense of humor (Marcellas is somewhat amusing not not exactly a thigh slapper). Who has seemed really intelligent and INTERESTING? Who has amused you, with personality, intrique, interesting strategies and so on???

Also I might like these folks more if they weren't constantly preening and discussing what perfection they are. BLECHHHHHH. I didn't watch all of the challenge now but caught Lisa run into bathroom, and her first stop was to vogue in the mirror, flip her hair, gaze at herself and then and only then did she continue on. Charming.

Last comment. I'm wondering who is most out of place...Gerry or the rest of these mostly plastic people?

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 03:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
PS Sweaty (so much for last comment LOL)...they have cable channels you can buy to watch that stuff. Videos too I hear.

Shannon31

Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 04:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mare i agree that they should have at least one women that doesn't look fake.But in todays society sex sells.I'm not saying i like that.I just realize that's the case.