Beauty Pageant or Reality Show?
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Beauty Pageant or Reality Show?
Hoon4vr | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:48 pm     Why have they filled the house with another bunch of actor/model wannabes??? I don't understand it! This is supposed to be reality TV - a show with REAL people that that average viewing public can identify with. The whole problem with scripted TV is that it is such an innacurate relection of the real world and the people in it -and now reality TV is becoming the same thing. I don't care who hooks up with who or who looks good in a freakin' bathing suit - it's about the whole psychology of the game and the relationships formed and betrayals and the mind games - beauty and sex are not really the attraction - so why do they think that's what we want? We can watch beautiful actors anytime - I want REAL PEOPLE darn it!!! Anyone else agree? |
Necie | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:55 pm     I agree with a lot of what you said. I think it should be a mixture of all different types of people. Personality wise these people may be different but looks wise they are practically interchangable. We have 3 brunette women and 3 brunette dudes who look a lot like each other. |
Jadeygurl39 | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:57 pm     I agree. I have never seen so MUCH ego. I really liked Tonya but my God she is arragont like the rest. LOL...I will admit it is fun to watch but reality is ...there are a lot of rich surgeons!!! Jade  |
Victoriafla | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:23 pm     I agree. I just wish I could like something about this BB, but right now I don't. |
Wink | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:24 pm     Just like your favourite sitcom or drama, reality programming has to attract advertisers to survive. Non-controversial, plain-looking, middle-aged people do not fall into the advertising demographic. |
Donut | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:31 pm     thanks for the thread! thank goodness. everyone is having so much fun here i have been afraid to be a party pooper, although i whispered a tiny opinion on the Bunny thread... Yes, with the millions of people in this country, why do they have to come up with people who all look, act, and live alike except for the usual token gay guy and older person. and this time it is pitiful how they picked such clones of last year. Last year, we didnt like that some of them were testing the waters of getting agents and playing characters. this year they clearly all have agents, are blatant actor wanna bees, and they are playing cartoon characters of the characters that were created last year. and for all the complaints of josh trying to play the game too hard, cbs is trying to play the game even harder. they are pushing really hard for sex, scheming(even mentioning toilet toothbrushes) instead of trusting that these things will just happen on their own in their own time, which is much more interesting i think. It really is being produced to be Melrose Place. and the bottom line is that the people in the house are the demographic for advertising which is what drives all of tv. ok, phew, i will duck now in case anyone wants to throw a fish at me for widening this can of worms that Hoon so nicely started... and that said, i let myself start to get into it more tonite, than last nite, so soon i will just end up supporting someone that seems to be the lesser of the evils. there just doesnt seem to be anyone innnocent, sweet and real like bunky, for example that you want to root for against the others... |
Zeyna | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:38 pm     It's too early to judge I think. All of them are still not being themselves and eventually the real peple will start to appear. There's also too many players the moment, and a conversation doesn't seem to go on long enough before someone comes in to interrupt. I think it'll get better as they start losing touch with reality The fact that they are attractive is irrelevant in my opinion. It doesn't make them any less "real". |
Misslibra | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:40 pm     Yea, what Wink said. |
Hoon4vr | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:40 pm     Then how do you explain the success of Rosanne? Or Rosie O'Donnel? It's not that plain looking middle aged people don't attract audiences - it's just that attractive people get an audience because the "powers that be" give us very little choice in the matter because that's all they will cast. It's not that I mind staring it Brad Pitt with his shirt off - but he is an actor - and people that are about nothing but how they look do not belong on "REALITY" TV - they belong on a movie set or a runway. The homegenity of television is getting worse all the time and it's really getting on my nerves, cause I live for my reality shows (as sad as that is) and they're screwing them up! |
Oregonfire | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:43 pm     I think it's sad too that they have a "token" old guy, who everybody knows is not going to make it to the end, for every single season. I don't think there'd be so much agism if they had at least a few more older people. Then again, it could turn into the oldies against the youngies. Actually Survivor is more democratic than this show. That said, I like this group a lot. The folks seem to be smarter than any other year as a whole. I like listening to their conversations--on occasion. |
Wcv63 | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:47 pm     I agree that some "stereotypes" have been put in the house. Fact is...there are a lot of really attractive gen xers who work as waiters/bartenders/etc. Also divorced single moms are a large segment of the population. Admit it. Everybody knows somebody like each one of those people in the house. Sure...they're all pretty. It's like the Osbornes (realness removed) had a makeover. |
Hunter | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 08:35 pm     Come now!!! Do your really think that people would be watching this program if we had a few beer bellied construction workers or haggard looking waitresses who sit around talking about their mundane lives.. People are already living that life. They enjoy seeing a bunch of egotistical hard bodied hotties trying to screw each other in every way possible |
Delilah | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 08:38 pm     Yup Hunter, it was tough, but I gotta agree with you. |
Chance | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:11 pm     I find all the sameness boring as well. I know,however, that sponsors want the 18-49 demographics. They often don't care for a show in the top 10 that skews to over 49ers. BOOOOO HISS I am reminded of Howard Sterns show with the constant sex talk....may be interesting for awhile but IT GETS OLD. But it's way too early in this season to be sure how I'll feel about this group. |
Bastable | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 09:17 pm     If you need proof that narcissism makes for dull TV, I think most people agree that "The Real World" was much more interesting back when they cast it for personality, not looks. Compare Puck, Rachel, Julie, Neil with wet towels like Kyle, Jamie, Keri. (Some exceptions exist, like Coral or Melissa.) My point is this: One you start casting for appearance, you bring in a self-indulgence that you can't overcome. Once people are there because they want the exposure to become models and actors, you're not getting the real human experience that Big Brother was designed to elicit. |
Snee | Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 10:12 pm     i agree with the advertising point of view thing, but it seems joe-poster around here would rather have a more diverse group. |
Realtvfan | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:05 am     The first sentance out of my mouth when I saw the 12 HGs for the first time was: "Arnold went casting for the pretties: both boys and girls". Arnold can't blame anyone but himself with all the now boring self-body talking. Even with all the tape they have, last night the show spent two scenes explaining the details of the eviction process when one scene would have been sufficient. That goes back to the bad production values of BB1. Do they have so little story telling tape from the HG that they have to go over the eviction rules twice? Can I believe I'm saying this? Both BB1's and BB2's cast seemed more interesting, diverse and intellectually honest/dishonest right from the get go. Make the twist for this year a visit from "Week One Will Mega or Jordan" BB1 and "Week one Nicole or Mike Boogie" BB2. Those 4 folks knew how to start emotional firestorms right off the bat. This appears to be a slow starting set of HGs. |
Kaili | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:34 am     They always go over the eviction rules a ridiculous amount. Every episode the HOH will explain to the exactly what must be done (like they can't remember). I assume it is for viewers who are not regular watchers, but come on. Viewers could figure it out- it isn't that hard! |
Bladewelder | Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:40 am     Speaking of the amount of tape.....I for one do not watch the live feed but I do read the postings of whats happening. Why is it that we never get to see on TV some of the interesting stuff that goes on during the day? Like last year when it was just Nicole & Will at the end, Will asked for BB for something to do and they gave him a Konex(sp?) ferris wheel he spent days putting together and it looked really good! We never saw that on TV. We saw the boring stuff of them just talking and Nic having anxiety attacks over seeing the evicted houseguests again. I realize that with all the tape they have and from all the camera angles they have to put together an hour long show, but geez can't we see something else besides the 'alliances' strategizing and the gossiping? And why is it this years girls all wear the skimpiest clothes they can find?? It's almost like that's what they were told to bring!! |
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