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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: Archive Three: Is it just me or does Lisa have the ugliest bikinis?: Archive through July 17, 2002

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sorry if I've offended you.

Abby7

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zach, how do you think Amy would take YOUR comment that "she seems the most womanly"?

I think you are being ultra-senstive here and not using common sense. Did you ever think that those people who come up to you are actually giving you a compliment (in their own way?). I think you know you really are being close-minded by finding it "highly offensive" and really just being a bit overly sensitive.

Zeyna

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hey OF, I was not intending to stir up anything by my comment either, just thought it was harsh to compare her to a survivor.
And saving arguments for a rainy day is a good idea, the show has barely started, so plenty of time for scraps :)

Ryan, sorry to put a damper on this topic.

Zachsmom

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon- check your folder..I think we have been off topic here enough..

Abby- you are entitled to your opinion..and you are right.. I am sensitive about my weight and many who suffer the same disease as I also are sensitive..but I am sure that when people ask how I stay so thin they want to hear that I eat right and excercise..not the graphic details of of how my entire intestinal track becomes severly inflamed to the point where I can not absorb nutrients and what little I do consume generally doesn't stay in my system for long ..everytime someone asks.. it puts me in an uncomfortable postition..as I said before..you wouldn't ask a heavier person how they put weight on..but feel it's a compliment to someone who is thin..

last post on this subject..

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's okay Zeyna, it WAS harsh! I paused when I typed it, and I usually self-edit pretty well, but decided to leave it in anyway, not sure why. I just, well I dunno, I just felt like saying it. Talk about lack of impulse control!

Keiffer

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Really haven't noticed Lisa's bikini's yet... not really what I am concentrating on. It is funny that early on people on this board seemed to be against the six because they didn't like the good looking people banning together to get rid of the "normal" people, and now we have people an here actually saying that Lisa isn't attractive? She could wear bathing suits that people on here thought were cuter, but I doubt it. Last year Shannon (who modeled swim suits) wore about 15 different suits, and I don't remember many people on here commenting on how they liked them either.

Perhaps a bit of jealousy towards the thinner attractive females on the BB shows is just the way it will allways be.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Zach, I left a message for you in your folder too. :)

Hey, I think Chiara has a great body, the best of the females. If I were to be jealous of anyone, I guess it would be her! But the thread was about Lisa, who I am honestly not jealous of.

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No problem Zeyna

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer: I don't think it's jealousy we feel. It's more like growing frustration and being tired of having to listen to constant talk between the hgs about how good looking they all are. They never ease up.

Curlyq

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 03:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If it makes you feel any better, Oregonfire, you're not the first poster to note Lisa's "strange aura". Another poster once referred to it as "that *used* look" and I myself noted it in yesterday's "In Semi-Defense of Tonya" thread. It's a certain countenance that I personally have only seen on women who've worked in strip clubs. It's a strange phenomenon and I don't know what it means, but there's a sad look behind the eyes and a hardening of the features as though they've seen something horrific or been through some kind of trauma. It is very hard to look at without feeling sad.

Just for the record Keiffer, having an opinion on another woman's looks or on her choice of swimwear isn't about jealousy. It's about taste. It's seems rather hurtful to accuse women of jealousy when they honestly dislike something. It implies that you feel we are somehow inferior to these people and should be jealous when you don't even know what most of us look like. If you knew we all looked like supermodels would you still accuse us of jealousy? If I find something unattractive, it's not because I'm jealous. It's because it's unattractive in my opinion. Frankly, after seeing what passes for "hot" these days, I'm feeling much more secure about my own looks.

Eliz87

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh Curlyq, you GO girl! :-)

Jesse

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Anorexia comes to mind

Jesse

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Who was that fabulous singer that had that same vacant look . . . she died of anorexia . . . can't think of her name . . . Lisa reminds me of her

Maris

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Karen carpenter. You are dead right. I thought she looked anorexic too

Jesse

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ah . . . Thanks Maris . . . I just couldn't come up with her name

Luvscoutii

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, I do see your point that a prevalent opinion of posters seem to be against the six "good looking people" banning against the more "normal" looking hgs. I've read different posts that put down Chiara for her "sleaze" talk and praise Marcellus, yet he went into a very graphic portrayal of his sexual ritual yesterday I believe. The point is, I don't think anyone is innocent of delving into their sexual escapades except perhaps Jason as he doesn't have any experience in that arena, but does that make them bad or "sleazy" people? Conversations can go to far and some definitely have, but think about the conditions these people are in.

Also, I didn't get a negative or accusatory feeling when reading Keiffer's post. It sounded like a rather generalized post and not meant to be hurtful or accusing anyone in particular.

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, is it me or did this thread just get really morbid?

Maris

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Amy, Marcellas, Danielle and Jason all goodlooking people. I don't have much of an opinion on Lisa. I dont like Josh or Gerry (neither of whom i would consider being noteworthy of a cover of GQ). I do consdier Tonya and Chiara sleazy and way more sleazy than Marcellas. With Tonya and Chiara it is more than how they speak it is that is all they can talk about. Their actions and their attitude scream sleazy.

Marcellas has not stripped for the public, lathered himself in shaving cream or peanut butter. He dislikes people for their actions and behavior not because they aren't cool and won't join in his repartee.

It isnt a matter of being goodlooking it is that these are pretty shallow people.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's my fault, Ryan. I put that energy out there. Sorry about that. Geez what a bummer.

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not your fault. If you hadn't someone else would have. I just didn't see the thread going this direction.

Twiggyish

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer, I can't stand Tonya's personality. It has nothing to do with her fake looks.
Lisa's ok, but not my favorite there.
Don't generalize all of us, because we don't like someone. It just so happens the "pretty ones" are rude and obnoxious.
Survivor had attractive people who also had brains, wit and nice personalities. Why couldn't Arnie take lessons from Mark in casting?

Jesse

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm . . . I didn't mean my comments to be negative . . . I was responding to the vacant eyes that Lisa seems to have . . . and have observered her eating habits . . . only once did I see her eat a complete half of sandwich . . . most of the time I've only seen her eat a spoonful of something at a time . . . made me wonder if she had an eating disorder such as anorexia . . . I dont' rate beauty on what kind of bikini a person wears or their body type . . . to me it is the whole package.

Kat

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 05:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jesse i was wondering the same thing. When I read this folder I thought about how hollow her face seemed and I couldn't remember her eating a full meal either.

I agree with Twiggy and Maris I don't base my decisions on looks. if I did that then Josh would be my favorite.

As far as her bikinis are concerned, I havent paid attention but then again I am not a teenage male (he he).

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 05:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
No fair kat...LOL

Seriously, I didn't mean to make anyone feel guilty about the direction of conversastion, I was just making an observation.

Zachsmom

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 06:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am sorry too Ryan..