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Mssilhouette

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 09:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My opinion on banners. I see it like this....They do add an interesting angle to the game. Plus since it is called Big Brother and you're on camera 24/7 it's kinda silly to plot stratgy when you KNOW it might be flown over in a banner. (What no one from BB II had watched BBI? I doubt that can be said for anyone on BB III)

We already know that BB prodcution is NOT going to really have them in that house without contact....So the banners can be annoying but they've always proved to stir something up in a sometimes boring house.

Since CBS doesn't control the air space, count on seeing the banners. Unless they make the banner people an offer they can't refuse, which I don't see them doing. To counter the banner effect I'm sure CBS will just go to FOTH or some other such nonsense.

Personally I just wanna see the hampsters drink beer and go crazy..LOL Okay not Nicole or Justin Crazy but maybe Josh & Eddie crazy. *Sigh* I miss those witty folks from BB1, the kinder gentler version.

Mags

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I miss the BB1 cast too...they were hysterical. The hair dying and drinking episodes still make me laugh. And those goofy infomercials that Jamie and George did.

Here's hoping to more week long challenges, like the Tour de Big Brother and dancing!

Webkitty

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 04:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I miss the BB1 cast too. There wasn't the same type of goofy humor last year as the first, and now it sounds like this years crew is going to even tougher.........

down with the banners!

Frozenfeline

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 04:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
last year, i remember staying up late some nights to watch the live feeds. i swear, all that was going on was Will and Boogie talking on how they could make the ratings soar by doing this and that. it was so weird...

as much as i hated her when she was on, i think we need another nut like Karen!

Roamjotiba

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 06:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wish they would put something over the backyard that would still let sunlight in but blur the banners if they tried to read them like a iced type glass or plastic or something and also not let the hamsters get so cozy with the staff as they did last year that was about as bad as the banners seems like some were tipped others strategy and things like that because some of the staff had disliked some of the house guests

Therlin

Wednesday, June 26, 2002 - 08:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Or some fabric that gets extended when a banner gets close. Or call them inside like they did in BB1, it's really that simple. And they don't come inside? PB&J for 2 days.

Keiffer

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 06:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh, how I miss the days of the virgin teasing a guy for weeks on end. I miss the guy who by accident shot a friend of his then on national TV wore a shirt with fake bullet holes in it. I miss an attention starved girl who would rather talk for a fewminutes with an angent than her mother. I miss everyone trying so hard to be nice all the time and never cause an argument because they saw how the black guy who did argue with people got kicked out so early. Basically nothing would make me more happy than to have another group of goof balls around all summer who never argue, and fret over whether or not to kiss a guy.

How I miss the cast of BB1.

Bigfan

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 08:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer,
I so agree with you!! Also the dry, funny humor of Curtis, the nut in the john trying to blast into outerspace, the colored hair and changes of Brittany. The list could go on and on!

Last year we remember a biscuit for a cook, a guy with a knife that couldn't cook, smoke, smoke and more smoke, bad word, after bad word, after bad word! Give me more of Big Brother 2000

Therlin

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 09:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I read somewhere that this year's BB has a nice mix of both kinds of people. I wish I remembered where I read it.

Keiffer

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 11:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Man, I am sorry Bigfan, but it seems that my point was missed a bit there. What I was trying to say was that BB1 was not near as entertaining as BB2. When I think of all the time we got to debate, and chat about the evil chill town last year, and talk about the planning going on I cry to think of BB going back to the love fest of BB1. Come on last year we had Will, and Mike forming strategies, and we had a girl that wasnt scared to let a guy touch her (like Brit was). I was not on this chat board for BB1, but what did everyone get into debates about? Once Jordan, and Mega got kicked out there was no conflit amongst the HG's anymore. Only between the HG's and BB.

Bigfan

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 12:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer,
Well, I guess you and I would have the two different sides of opinions that are in this clubhouse. As they say, "that's what makes the world go round". If this year is like last year, I'm not sure how much I'll be around. I'd rather debate what color Brit needs to change her haircolor to than if they should let Nicole talk to her husband because she's about to loose it. As for strategies, to me they are what smart people keep to themselves. I would have to say that I'm a peace loving person and conflit is not what I want to see, at least not the type of I'm cool and your not that we got from the chillers last year. In year one, they all thought George was a goofball but they were all tolerant of his personality. I would have to say that year one was a group of fairly nice people and year two was nice people gone bad under duress.

And, once again this is my opinion and may be mine alone and I'm more than happy for you to disagree with it.(that's my peaceloving personality trying to let you know that I'm not taking it personal and hoping you don't take my posting as something harsh against you.)

Mygetaway

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 01:47 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I enjoyed both seasons for both the reasons Bigfan and Keiffer sighted. I liked the first season and the "family feel" and getting to know the people, etc.
I also enjoyed (most) of last season because I loved hating chill town, and watching Will's plans, and wanting Hardy to get even with Shannon. And then waiting to find out how they would handle 9/11.
I think if every season is a little different then it's easier for it not to get stale. And each time you get a new crowd, there are bound to be some who have learned from watching the others before them. (Although we could debate FOREVER about what Kritsa learned from her watching..LOL)

My favorite part of the whole BB experience is watching those feeds, and then seeing how they play it all out on the TV. It never ceases to amaze me.

Demeter

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think I'm more in line with BigFan on this issue. I much preferred the first season.

Last season most of the folks were not very likeable. I would rather that Will won than Nicole, but it still irritates me a bit that a guy who comes across as pretty much a narcissistic creep won the money. I was never a big fan of Eddie the first year either (Curtis was my true love), but I feel better about him winning than WIll.

I was still hooked last year, but never did like it as much as the first year.

As far as watching the feeds and seeing how it plays out on TV, I enjoy that too, but I can see how much is edited to slant the public view. I went to the site and watched that 28th episode last week and realized how much it was edited. They really did not catch the full "drama" of Nicole's self-pity trip when she lost the cd player to Will.

I want more "Trinitron Dance" episodes! Or the yard full of "pugita" dogs running around. Or...you get the idea. It was just more fun on the whole (even though we had Karen "hiding" in the garden to talk). I liked that it was painful for them to see someone go...it showed they had feelings. I guess I'm just a sucker for the "family" feel rather than the "feud".

Keiffer

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I suppose I am just a more simple minded "average" TV viewer in America. Look at the TV shows that get good ratings, and see what they have in common. When you talk about Friends, ER, Sopranos, or most other top rated shows you start to see a trend... that is sex, violence, and plotting. Maybe I already get those things from other shows, and I should be happy to get a show like BB1 that had the goody goody feel through most of it.

I however like BB, and like that during the summer we get something fun to watch. For BB to continue for summers to come they are going to have to get good ratings. To get good ratings in this country there has to be some conflict of some sort in the show. Whether it is sexual tension, or one group plotting against another that is what gets ratings, and maybe sad to say is what keeps me interested in a show.

And back to the banners thing... this is another reason I don't want HG's to see banners. It stunts players abilities to have private conversations with one or two others to plan things. They know an hour after they are done the rest will get a banner warning them of the plot.

Necie

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 04:11 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am new to the board and am really looking forward to the new season whether it be like BB1 or BB2. I liked both seasons. I liked the banners and if family members or friends had money to do the banners it might help with strategy in one way or another. Did any one have the live feeds last year? If so, was it worth the money as far as entertainment? Did it help you in knowing what was going to happen?

Seamonkey

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 05:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Welcome, Necie..

Oh yes, lots of us had live feeds last year and the year before too (well they were free then) and yes many thought it was worth it and some who didn't spent lots of time here on the board reading what people posted in live feeds!!

If you liked it both seasons, you belong here..

Necie

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 06:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am glad I joined in. Thanks Seamonkey for welcoming me. I will be looking forward to reading what everyone has to say especially about the live feeds and such..

Seamonkey

Thursday, June 27, 2002 - 06:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, we are mostly all loony-tunes about BB but as you poke around you'll find a wide variety of interests and interesting people here.

Gusto

Friday, June 28, 2002 - 03:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What we really need is LIVE coverage of a little Cessna banner plane being shot out of the sky by a pair of F-16's.

It would make me feel safe and proud to be an American seeing some plane shot down for flying over restricted airspace.

Of course I hope the pilots safely eject and whatnot, but I just want to see something on fire for once... besides Colorado... besides Arizona...

You get the point.

Texastillie

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 11:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Altho I think I read every word posted here last season, I'm new to posting, too. I agree with Keiffer that BB2 was much more interesting than BB1. I still laugh at some of the things Evil Will said in the diary room -- He was the best! The banners do thwart some of the scheming HGs but it also adds an interesting twist. Remember how crazy some of the HGs got over some of the messages? That was entertaining (in a mean way, I know).

I had the live feeds last year and lost a lot of sleep. But the LF posts here MADE the season for me. I'm sure it is a lot of work and I really appreciate it. You posters did a terrific job. THANK YOU!!!

Adamblast

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 12:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I side with BB1 much more than with BB2 -- my idea of entertainment is to like and care about at least *some* of the people in the house -- not to watch a bunch of cruel folks mistreat each other...

I was a regular chatterbox around here during the first season, but I quickly dropped away during last year's show...

It was too demoralizing to read post after post of people cheering when bad stuff was happening to real people...

Delilah

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 01:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Arnie won't allow banners this year, I read somewhere that he has "anti-banner" planes flying and if one enters (BB house airspace - LOL what is this a war zone?!) he will know when one is a mile away. Oh yeah and what'll you do then Arnie? Shoot it down with a bazooka? How about we all bunch together and rent a hot air balloon?

Kador

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think he's going to have planes flying, that would be WAY too expensive. But he is going to have "plane spotters" out there watching the skies, and said that the HG's have been warned that if they look up at a plane they could be kicked out of the house.

Delilah

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You are right (as usual ) Kador, I also read that if a plane is heard flying any where near the compound, they will be told to go inside and if they look up, could be expelled on the spot. Hey, everyone saw that banner Nicole's Jeff sent and then the threats etc... Arnie learnt a lot from Nicole....Geez, so did we ::::gulp:::::

Kador

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Sorry Delilah, I hope you don't think I'm picking on you. =)

Twinkle

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I have a feeling that the on-the-ground spotters thing is hype and the real "spotters" will be sitting in front of their computers, lurking at sites like TVCH that flew banners in the past.

My feelings are mixed about the banners, but I'll sure miss the excitement of reading and contributing to the creative process, knowing when the banner will fly, and then watching the live feeds, getting cold chills as THE PLANE is heard approaching in the distance.

Maris

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they make too much of the banners the real problem is that CBS gives them too much power. When Nicole's husband flew the banner last year, it wasnt the banner that was the problem and affected the game, it was CBS caving and allowing her to call her husband. When the banner was flown regarding Justin Krista and the knife, it was very entertaining watching the HGs try to figure out what all those letters meant.

I say let the banners fly and if people want to blow their money on them, go for it.

Shadowkat

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I liked the banners. It was fun watching the hampsters try to figure out what the banners meant. It was also funny when they didn't believe banners that were actually truthful. It's another psychological game to play on them, but I guess Arnold prefers to hold the strings.

Adamblast

Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 02:53 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If they manage to discourage the banners completely I'll be glad... I always thought they detracted from the game...

Example: Last season, Will was getting ready to pretend he had cancer, when a banner tried to warn the other HGs about his plan... The other HGs never did figure out the message, but *he* knew enough to halt his plan at that point...

That one banner alone significantly altered the course of the season... If his plan had been attempted and failed, Will could *easily* have been banished by the rest of the HGs in disgust...

Misslibra

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night while watching the live feeds some of the guys, I think Josh and Eric were talking about getting banners. :)

Shannon

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 07:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I also miss the first Big Brother cast, they were great! Especially Curtis, he had the wittiest sense of humor! I know that watching fights and sexual encounters may be more exciting and good for the ratings, but I enjoyed how the first group viewed themselves more as them against big brother instead of against each other.

Now each year the houseguests just keep getting more outragoues, the first group really seemed like real people. But that's just my opinion.