Archive through July 20, 2002
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Archive through July 20, 2002
Draheid | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:09 pm     IMHO, Marcellas should 'let it ride' for now, with Danielle thinking she's got it locked how she wants it. Then, when she vetoes Tonya, Marcellas should replace her with Chiara. This would require Roddy (love interest) and Jason (Major Crush) to vote out Josh. Win-Win, I think!  |
Jojo | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:11 pm     Marc can still turn this thing to his advantage. He should let Dani go ahead with her plan, and veto Tonya. When it is his turn to nominate someone else and give his explanation he should nominate ChiChi and expose Dani for who she is. Explain that Dani was not really saving Tonya she was saving Josh, but since he really wanted Josh out he had no choice but to play her. Then explain she wanted Eric, Lisa, and Gerry put up. This should gain Dani some formidable enemies is the six-pack, and detract attention from Marc. Marc will then have his just revenge on Dani for pulling this stunt. |
Neeners | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:11 pm     But Danielle wants to veto Josh, doesn't she? |
Neeners | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:12 pm     sorry, my mistake! |
Kissysmom | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:13 pm     Oh Jojo! That would be so sweeeeeeeeet! |
Draheid | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:13 pm     She was lobbying hard to veto Josh, but Marcellas wouldn't hear of it so she finally relented and offered Tonya in exchange for Marcellas putting up Gerry ... let everyone else choose between the two most controversial houseguests, Josh and Gerry. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:18 pm     I dunno if Danielle is necessarily "evil"....just playing the game. Whether she uses the veto or not doesn't matter unless Marce is stupid enough to put Gerry (one 0f his few allies) on the block. I did not see him agree to do that. I saw him tell her to not screw him over because she knows how torn up he is about wanting Josh out. If Dani uses her veto...for either nom, all Marce has to is nominate whomever he feels Danielle is closest to (out of the "popular" people crowd)...or better yet, tell her that he will nominate one of the people that he thinks Danielle wants most to stay in the house. That threat could work to his advantage. Just as good, or even better...he just needs to tell Lisa, Chia, Roddy, and Eric that if Dani vetos Josh, then he will nomintae one of THEM for sure....that way, they will all lobby Dani to not use the veto. In any case...Marce still has the final say. Marce also knows that Gerry being nommed is a vote lost for his agenda. Ain't no way he will put up Gerry. |
Outsider892 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:19 pm     i think she should veto tonya or just leave it alone, how do you make the smiley faces??? |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:21 pm     I agree, SanFran, and I think it has to be Lisa! Marc will not sacrifice himself to save Dani, which is what her request amounts to. That way they both win, as Dani will look like she doesn't want to see a friend (Tonya) go, and everyone else in the Six Pack will claim that they "had a hard decision to make." |
Draheid | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:22 pm     San: Marcellas agreed to put up Gerry ONLY if Danielle vetoed Tonya! outsider: click on the 'FORMAT' link at the top of the page for instructions. |
Texastillie | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:24 pm     Marc is telling others (Rod/Chi) that he is putting Gerry up so I guess he is going to do it. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:25 pm     A quickie way of doing just the smiley or frowny face is colon : and ) or ( next to one another. They will happen automatically |
Cameltoes | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:25 pm     When did this happen? Chiara told Roddy that Marcellas said he considered Gerry but that he wanted Josh out first. Roddy is saying that Josh told him that Marcellas would put up Gerry (a bold faced lie). |
Tisha90029 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:26 pm     jojo (if it's tonya, is it a hoho?) that is the best idea yet. I think he is letting Dani think she has won this battle and he is going to turn it around on veto night and tell the truth about Danielle's backstabbing. If he can get enough evidence--and certainly Amy can supply some of it--he can pull the carpet right out from under her. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:27 pm     This is so stupid. The whole game is going to be ruined of Josh stays. Okay, maybe not, but it sure feels like it. Dani, what is your problem? What a power freak. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:28 pm     I can't believe that Marcellas is that dumb....agreeing to put the enemy of the majority of the HGs up against his own biggest enemy....he ends up losing an ally and being even MORE outnumbered by enemies! He is smart enough that he will think this over and change his mind....that is, if he was being serious with Dani when he agreed to that. |
C1mag | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:31 pm     Marcellus is NOT going around the house telling them he is putting up Gerry. Thats Joshs little lie! |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:35 pm     Roddy and Chia just compared notes on what Josh told Roddy (that Marce would put up Gerry) and what Josh told Chia(I forget...but that's beside the point here anyhow)...and Roddy realized that Josh was definitely lying to one of them...after thinking a minute he decided that Josh had been lying to him because the scenario was highly unlikely that Marce would put up Gerry. |
Maris | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:36 pm     I hope and pray that my little Marcellas is rethinking this. He needs to regroup, think about it and then when she saves Tonya, he puts up Roddy. That way he gets Josh out and she has a big bullseye in her back from Roddy. Another thing, we are all sitting here watching this go down and know exactly what she is up to. I think Marcellas is just as capable of seeing it too. I think he was just in shock but I will be the started to rethink Danielle as soon as she won the challenge. He asked her last night not to try to win it. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:36 pm     I wonder if Dani will turn on Marc if he puts up someone other than who he and Dani agreed to. Does she even get it that what she's asked him to do is unreasonable? Gerry can be gotten rid of next week or the week after: he will cleary be nomininated again, and voted out with very little argument from anyone. Josh is another matter--he'll worm his way into the Six Pack even more if allowed to stay. I still say Lisa is the best bet for the replacement nom. |
Goddess146 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:39 pm     If Dani vetos Josh, he will replace him with one of (Chichi, Roddy, Lisa or Eric). If this is the case, the vote will probably split four to four between Tonya and X. This will force Marc to make the choice about who to expell. In either case, it will end up bad for him. If Dani vetos Josh, Marc is screwed just about anyway you look at it. Marc is screwed and Dani looks good to a lot of people. |
Emjaycue | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:40 pm     Remember, that Marcellas doesn't know what WE know ... i.e. that, as of yet, Danielle is an "outsider" to the 6-packers and only wanting in on their power. He might think she already has converted to the 6-pack side and they are using her to fool him. And if Marcellas decides that is the game he is playing he won't have any problems betraying her. "If you make a pact with the devil, there's no dishonor in breaking it." He may think Dan. has done just that. --M |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:44 pm     My guess is that if Dani vetos Josh, he should nominate Jerry, but if she vetos Tonya, he should put up Lisa. I wonder how long the gold star for saving Josh would last. I think it will also look good if she saves Tonya, but it's good for both Marc and herself. Vetoing Josh only makes herself look good, and proves a little too early on that she is a selfish player. (Granted they're all selfish, but should not reveal that so early in the game!) More people may secretly want Josh gone than Dani realizes, and may not be happy to have this opportunity to get rid of him taken away. |
Goddess146 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:47 pm     Marc also has not seen the B Roll where Josh is saying the he has "no morals" when it comes to winning this game. |
C1mag | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:48 pm     Pay attention to the words Marcellus said to Dani after her little pitch to save Josh. He said very directly and with complete strength.. Danielle, if you are screwing with me I'm coming after you. Folks she already has screwed with him and he's going to nail her over this. Did anyone else feel like if his words were a nife they would have cut her right then? I believe he can't believe that this black woman would ask him to give up one of his voting strengths over that foul mouthed weasel. A man that even joked about black face and this black woman is asking him to now save the idiot and in the process give up one of his people that he needs to stay safe when voting. How insulting! She even suggested aligning with Josh and that he can be trusted. GET REAL!! ( add a real nice colorfoul word in here please) She basically tried to get rid of Marci's chances in the game. That aint cool at all. Mark his words. He is going to get even with her and for the record, she may think she was cool going "Ghetto" on Lori, but we all know Marcellus would verbally rip her into if it came down to it. I think his final words to her meant more than just a warning. I think he was telling her, "B#tch I get your game and I'm not playin. You've screwed yoursef" Interesting thought came to mind and it was that last night he told Amy he knew Dan was playing him and now he knows for sure. |
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