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Ryanc2002

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Keiffer - Telling a joke.

Maris

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think they were alone because i saw the feeds where Marcellas told Danielle about it (he and Danielle were in the kitchen). He told Gerry and Lori outside. He told Roddy, Tonya, Chiara in the bedroom. I dont know of one person that substantiated that they heard him say it.

Flores was it on the feeds that Josh said it? By the way I cant stand Josh, I am just wondering if anyone actually heard him make the comment besides marcellas.

What555456

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't feel sorry for any of these people. Nor did I feel sorry for any of them last year. They all knew this is the way the game is played. Gerry did too. If he did not want to be put under the microscope and take this sort of bad moutghing, he should have stayed home and watched.

Ryn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, question, I am sick of Josh going on and on and on about this (others too).

What bugs me is they think Gerry is going to lose his job for what he said.

Based on what WE know - do any of you think he would? Personally I don't.

I feel if we see anything we will see Gerry admit that like it or not he feels he might have some racism/homophobic tendencies (gee - don't we all if we are honest?) and that he now feel that clouded his judgement.

Given that - I cannot see how ANYONE would see it as reason to terminate his job, he has admitted he has faults, but its somethign he is working in (personaly I think he just wanted to veto Marc and used this as his reason).

So - is it me? I think he will keep his job, and I think Josh (and others) are clueless to think he would lose it, that they are simply dwelling on it because they feel Gerry made them look bad.

Moondance

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I completely agree with you Ryn!

Oh how the HGs protest too much

Ryn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ty Moon - glad it was not just me :)

Whit4you

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Depends on what he said and how it comes across - at least when it comes down to a school board they'd hear the entire speech and not an edited version if it came down to a potential job loss.

Those guys heard his speech - we didn't so we really can't say for sure if he's risking his job or not but I do know that newscasters, radio announcers and so on have gotten fired for making a racist joke etc.

C1mag

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 02:41 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
When you are in this type of environment everything is magnifide and you look for ANYTHING to use to rag on someone. Thats the only reason this was going on. It was gross to listen too. The man has family and friends watching this all happen. What the man said made sense but they aren't going to see it that way. Their brains have become toast and they have regressed back to childhood.

Danimom

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, thank you everyone for your comments and honesty on the issue. As a person of color, watching parts of reality shows can be disturbing when issues like this come out. But I do think the house guest are really out of control with their attack on Gerry. Personally I don't know who in the house is racist. There are things that have definitely caught my attention and I take a look at the person with a raised eyebrow.

The reality is, because of the 'game', everyone always looks for any reason to justify kicking someone out of the house, for Gerry, his speech is the current vehicle of attack. In reality, someone else just could be racist, if we were going to be honest. But for this game it doesn't matter. Gerry did and said what he wanted and people are antsy about it.... like someone said about, if its not you, don't be nervous.

Man this show is great, its like being a scientist watching lab rats! (meant in only the most positive light of course.)

Theowl

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 03:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
of course!! LOL!!

Ryn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 08:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry didn't make a joke - big difference between making a joke and saying you may have mistakenly done something because of racism that you didn't even realize you were doing until later.

(I think I heard Gerry sighted both racism and homophobia)

Having a wife thats a teacher, I would say Gerry is going to be fine, he would have to do a lot more than I think he did to get fired.

Cliotheleo

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, this is driving me CRAZY!!! If I hear the boring people say that Gerry is "really gonna have some problems on the outside," one more time I'm gonna, fly to LA, grab the megaphone lady's megaphone so I can SCREAM at them!!!!

The notion that Gerry's life is going be a living .... heck .... when he leaves the house because of his "admisison that he is racist," is absurd and here's why......

1. As much as we all love it, BB is NOT that big to the entire country, the average person is gonna be like "Gerry who?"

2. Those who actually KNOW him, and that's the key word, KNOW him, won't base their judgements on what he said, but on how he's treated them. His nephews, gay friends whomever aren't suddenly gonna change their minds about him because of something he said (and that's assuming it even makes onto the TV show which it may not.) Does anyone remember during the OJ trial that African American friends of Mark Furhman came forward to say that they didn't think he was racist. The notion still seems a little off to me, even today, but he's THEIR friend, I'm not gonna argue with them! So my point is, Josh, Roddy and Eric, quit being so self righteous. Gerry's gonna have the same friends and loved ones he had when he went into the house because, and here's a news flash, THEY know him better than y'all do!!!!

Ok, I feel better. I'm going to bed now. :)

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:30 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm with you, Clio. Bt the way these people are going on and on--saying Gerry has disgraced his family, how there will protests over what he said etc etc, you'd think Gerry said something truly disgusting and horrid. But from what I have witnessed, it couldn't have been that bad because Marc and Danielle don't seem to have a problem with what he said. And if Marc had a problem, he'd be upset and would not hold it in.

I can't wait to see tonight's show just to see what all the fuss is about.

Abby7

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 11:59 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hi all, (my first post). Didn't Hardy say something last season to the tune that he was going to do/say something on the show that would blow America away? I'm thinking Gerry is just really hoping to make his mark in life through this show. (BTW, did you know that Shadow Hills...where Gerry is from is very close to the Burbank airport, which is also very close to the BB house in Studio City.)

Abigail1970

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree that everyone signed up for this and we shouldn't really feel bad for them. BUT, I do feel kind of bad for Gerry becuz it seems as though no one is really talking to him anymore. And that whole comment from Lisa about him being too touchy/feely was just stupid. Get over it Lisa, not everyone wants you and your thong.. I think Gerry seems like a pretty decent guy.

Abby7

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 12:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'm sure Gerry is a decent guy. However, just like many of the houseguests this year (IMO), he is trying too hard. Either trying too hard to make the show what they think is interesting or to stand out in some way. It sounds like Gerry never made it as an actor and now really feels it necessary to make "his speech" to the world through BB3.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just thought of something.

Rather than insult him behind his back and obsess about the veto speech he made, why don't one of these drama queens go up to Gerry and call him on it? Why not ask him to clarify or tell him they disagree?

Josh keeps talking endlessly about this beig speech he will give if he gets HOH. Why not sit everyone down and give it now?

These people think they are so evolved yet they are so damn spineless.

Abby7

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Actually Scorpio, I had hoped that had already been done and I just hadn't read it yet on the live feed transcripts. I stopped reading, but figured someone would have said something directly to him. hmmm. How strange he hasn't been confronted.

Lancecrossfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That would take honesty, courage, respect and integrity to do something like that.

Abigail1970

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Right on Scorpio!! If I was in that house I would call a house meeting and get it all out. These guys just prefer to talk crap behind his back. Say it to his face, punks!!

Jan

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was really surprised just now (before this lastest FOTH) to hear Amy going on and on to Josh about how she hates Gerry and wants him gone as the next evictee.

I know his veto cost her a nomination but it did save her best friend and she is really in no danger.

Why does she HATE Gerry so???

Kmjm

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amy has been totally kissing up to Josh last night and today. What gives? Does anyone have a sense that this is a strategy or is she really switching sides and going after Gerry?

Jan

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
That's what I keep wondering too Kmjm. Has anyone heard her talking about this with Marcel? When she talks to him , is she for or against Gerry? For or against Josh? I thought she told Marc just a while ago that she does not trust Josh so is she playing him?

Kmjm

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Jan, I'm hoping it is a strategy, but I didn't hear that conversation with Marcellus. I guess we'll all have to stay tuned. Right now she is making my stomach turn with the constant Gerry and Lori bashing. It seems not right somehow to keep on going after someone who is already basically gone- Lori I mean.

Chance

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 04:44 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't figure out Amy. I,too, don't get her hatred of Gerry. Also I thought it was sooooo hypocritical of Lisa to say she may complain complain about Gerry hugging her (but it's ok for Josh to smack her butt ??????????)
I just don't like most of these folks. They have no insight into their own behavior but condemn others at the drop of a hat !!