Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:26 pm     Okay, trying to not start new threads, but the other Eric and Roddy thread fell off the list. Eric and Roddy are currently strategizing. Yes, they definitely see themselves in the final two. They plan on going after Marc soon! It was actually Eric who was explaining to Roddy that the final HOH picks one of the final three to be evicted. Eric needs to gain some confidence around Roddy. Still seems insecure around him to a certain extent. These two guys think they have it wrapped up. What can be done to break up the power of two? |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:33 pm     Well apparently Ruddy was under the impression they had a deal to be the final 2..and Eric wasn't ..now Eric is clear on the fact Ruddy thinks they had a deal to make it to the final 2 and Eric has agreed to it... appears he didnt HAVE much choice because Ruddy made it clear that the two of them already HAD HAAD that agreement and even this early on - if ERic were to be honest and tell him he didnt want Ruddy in final two that at the end of the game Ruddy would use that to cost ERic the game. It was the most manipulative thing I've seen a MALE do in my life LOL... I'm creative and manipulative and have met a few girls who were my match on that but .. to see a guy being THIS manipulative was so interesting. What will be even MORE interesting is to see if Ruddy is being geniune or not - if he's NOT then he's a better player then both Will and Eddie were... he's either being genuine...and honestly felt Eric had made the agreement..or extremely creative in his manipulating to force him to do so NOW with no chance of ever changing his mind... and will Ruddy come up with an excuse to forget about this set in stone agreement OR... does he actually NOT want to win the 500 grand? Cause obviously taking Eric to the final two is probably his LEAST likely chance of winning at THIS point ....hmm |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:38 pm     Thanks for filling in the blanks, Whit! That's true, if Roddy and Eric do make it to the final two, Eric may be more likely to win becuase he's been more under the radar. Don't know though--Roddy's charm may be so great that it extends beyond the eviction process and convinces the evictees that he should win based on "divine right" or whatever. I just think it's funny that they are *very* sure that one of them will win the next HOH, and *very* sure that they will be the final two. I want the women to rally, but they are too divided by wanting the men's attention. |
Whit4you | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:48 pm     Well if Ruddy is being geniune with Eric - and does somehow make it to the final two sticking with that honesty he could win... IF he's being very cleaver and maniuplating Eric this way he could easily do so with the others as well...and even IF in the end they find out that he somehow wrangled a FINAL 2 deal with each of them ... he could STILL win. It's very interesting....lol.. I haven't seen how Ruddy has made any deals with either Charia or Josh or anyone else... Maybe he is being really geniune and only making this deal with Eric..because he knows ERIC has other deals going and thus in the end will save him..... Ruddy is now talking to Charia trying to convince HER to keep Josh in but she says she has an agreement and cant do that. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:54 pm     It's true, Roddy's playing everyone. For some reason I see him as being most sincere about the Eric alliance. Interesting--I just saw a bit of that conversation between Josh and Eric, with Eric saying that he would vote out Chiara but didn't push the isssue with Roddy. It seems like both of them are willing to vote out the other one's girlfriend. Heard Chiara say that if its the final three--Roddy, her, and LISA. It seems like the power couple both think they are bringing their best friends into the final three with them. What will win out...best buddyism or coupledom? |
Curlyq | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:23 pm     I don't know. I got a different feeling from these conversations. Eric told Roddy he didn't want to go against him in the final two. He wanted to tell him now and be honest about it. He wants to stick with him until the final 3 and then see who wins the last HOH. Something like that. By the way Eric was talking they totally see the girls as their enemy and they're doing what they can to beat them at this game. That's when Roddy wanted the confirmation that their alliance of 2 still stands. Eric was telling Roddy to work on Chiara to get her to change her mind about keeping Tonya over Josh. It sounded to me like these were two guys using two girls to get what they want. It didn't sound like two guys discussing "girlfriends". |
Maris | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:27 pm     You are right Curly. I got that from Roddy but not from Eric. He said that he could see having a relationship with lisa outside the house. he also said that lisa understands they are both in here to win this game and he understands the same thing. Also, he said that Lisa knows he goes off an strategizes and he knows she does. They dont discuss that aspect of it. Now what was interesting is that Eric was saying to Roddy that they had to vote Tonya out and keep Josh. Eric was very clear that he wanted to ride with Roddy till the end and his relationship with Lisa was totally separate. |
Minnyace01 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:30 pm     Does the possibility exist that now R can screw E over and take C with him and not even have to feel bad about doing what he was going to do anyway? I've got a feeling that when it gets down to brass taxes, they (R&C) will vote together. |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:34 pm     That's my question too--if Roddy, as the final HOH, had to choose between Chiara and Eric, would he choose Chiara to be evicted and expect her to understand? And vice versa? If Chiara won the last HOH and had to choose Lisa or Roddy to go, who would it be? At some point these alliances may have to be tested. Would the women make the same decision as the men? |
Minnyace01 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:36 pm     Oregonfire - Have you seen the show tonight yet? |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:39 pm     Nope--it's a West Coast thang Have you? I'm glad to see that we often agree on things--it's nice to have a buddy out there! |
Minnyace01 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:44 pm     Oregon - after you see it, I think that you may also think that our boy Roddy is playing Eric and has just gotten a free ticket to take Chiara to the final 2. What is interesting is that it appears to me that both of these couples are going to try to play the other couple in the end. And from what I heard Lisa say in the girls talk yesterday, her fling is only a short term thing. If that is true, I kinda feel sorry for Eric - not! |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:49 pm     I'd rather see it be a couple thing in the end--that's never happened before, and would add an interesting twist. I'll watch for that angle on the show, thanks! |
Minnyace01 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:51 pm     Oregon - enjoy, and set your tape player so you can watch a portion of it over again! |
Webkitty | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:18 pm     Oregon, I agree with you that a couple final two would be different and interesting, but I wonder if the camera would be FOH all night. It sounds like from what I am reading that Eric and Lisa got "romantic" last night and just as it was really heating up, FOH. I just wonder exactly how much BB is willing to show even the internet people. Then again, they didn't go FOH for the girls when they were getting ready for the bikini contest so.......... |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:26 pm     LOL that's true, Webkitty! Though I remember the last week or two of BB2 was the most boring thing on the planet. Monya and Nicole playing backgammon--shudder. BTW, I can't remember how long the final three are in the house? Anyone? |
Tabbyking | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:31 pm     hey, weren't nicole and will a couple at the end?! a couple of idiots, yeah, but there was the spa weather report! |
Oregonfire | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:26 pm      |