Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:39 pm     She will walk, I can't seee it changing - no matter - who do you wan to win HoH?? I want Jerry, he is the only one I trust to Nom 2 of the 5 I want gone - Josh, Eric, Roddy, Lisa or Chiara. |
Ryanc2002 | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:40 pm     As much as I hate to admit it after today, I'm with you. |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:42 pm     If the 6pack wins HoH - the others are toast. they will be whittled away. |
Fifi | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:42 pm     I'd love to see what Danielle would do if she won HOH next! |
Ryanc2002 | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:43 pm     What about Jay? |
Cameltoes | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:43 pm     Gerry - I agree. I don't want Josh nominated yet and Gerry may not do that. Amy has mentioned she may put Jason up (hopefully Marc will talk some sense into her) against Chiara. Marc would also put 2 six packers up but he will put up Josh which I think is the wrong move at this point. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:49 pm     1. I'd like to see Marcellas win HOH. 2. I'd like to see him nominate any two 6 packers except Josh. 3. I'd like to see Amy win the veto. 4. I'd like Amy to veto a 6 packer to help her trustworthiness with them. 5. Then I'd like to see Marcellas nominate Josh. The only way for Josh to be nominated and NOT be saved with a veto is to him BE the veto replacement nomination. I think Josh would lose against any other 6 packer (or "core 4" or whoever the heck they are these days). The rest of that group would turn on him, as would everyone else. This is what I WANT to happen....but like they say "People in hell want iced water" |
Realtvfan | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:50 pm     It will be interesting to see which game the HGs have to play to become HOH. a) A game of semi-skill or random luck, or b) a game of calling out other's names (as we just saw with the first veto game), or c) a game of questions in which BB can potentially slant the questions one way or the other. |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:51 pm     Why don't you guys want Josh nominated yet? My fear if he stays is that he will ride the same type coattails Will did (my only comparison to them, I still think Josh is Mike Boogie deux). Folks will leave him in thinking they can get rid of him at any time and that he isn't a threat. Of course since only Jason seems to have any legit knowledge of BB2, they may be too stupid to see this. |
Curlyq | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm     I hope Gerry wins. After officially breaking with the alliance he's the only one who has really got to worry about the alliance getting a chance at revenge. Danielle would probably put one 6-packer against one Outsider, like Krista did last year. Amy, Marcellus, and Jason all strike me as people who will try to get an in with the 6-Pack by kissing up to them. In spite of all Marcellus has said I can still see him making amends with them and joining them later on. Gerry is the only one who has burned his bridge with them. Hopefully he'd either put Roddy and Eric against each other or Lisa and Chiara against each other. Let's get rid of some of these clones. |
Muse | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm     I'd like Gerry to win HOH. He has the guts to do what he thinks is right, and he'd probably talk to other people (Marcellas and Amy, at least) to get their input. So he'd do what was in all of their best interest. I hope. I wouldn't care who won the veto. Gerry could just pick someone else from the alliance to replace a nominee, assuming the veto was used at all. |
Cameltoes | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:57 pm     The reason is that he is not to my mind part of the power core (Roddy/Eric, Chiara/Lisa). I think a powerful (yet still relatively likeable as far as the other HGs are concerned) person like Roddy, Eric or Lisa should go first. I don't think Josh can pull a Will at this point because some other people are playing too well. Roddy for instance would have fall really far in their estimation to lose to Josh in a final 2 scenario. My ideal scenario would be a power person leaving followed by an obnoxious one. So Roddy, then Josh, then Lisa, then Chiara etc. |
Curlyq | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:59 pm     I guess that was the foolish thing about building an alliance of so many members. Even if there's a veto there's plenty of other members to target. When will they learn that alliances just don't work in this game? |
Seanflynn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:00 pm     Keep in mind it's a two-step -- HOH AND Veto holder So any discussion of HOH must keep that in mind Marcellus for HOH Gerry for Veto again (unless can;t have for two straight weeks) PLUS who knows what other wrinkles could occur |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:00 pm     I'd take Gerry or Marc--Any too as far as winning the next HOH. Of course I'd want one of these to alsow in the veto so Josh stays on the chopping block. Part of it for me is wanting to see how loyal his group would be to him. We saw thaht Chill Town was at least loyal to each other--they never gave in. I'm not so sure these folks with stick with Josh if Tonya was the other one againts him. I can see the females booting Josh like he was penniless road kill. I also wonder if Roddy and Eric would want Tonya around over Josh. I think it would be kind of fun to see Josh's eyes when all the votes were for him--including his "buddies". |
Mystery | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:08 pm     I'll be interested to see how many HGs actually even try to win HOH or the veto power. I think some of them don't want to win either. |
Delilah | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:16 pm     As much as I want him to go, they would be crazy to get rid of Josh right now. They need to eliminate strong players and break up alliances. Josh thinks he is important and he is - he is easily swayed and not very clever. I also hope he doesn't win HOH or the veto. That being said, I would like to see Roddy win HOH, (he has more integrity than the rest of the six pack/core 4 and wouldn't be their puppet) or Amy. Roddy is playing the game strategically. I would like to see Jason or Danielle win the veto vote. I know this has been said before but the veto thing is silly because the HOH just has to pick three people each week and they still choose the noms. Mystery, I do agree with you, Will threw a lot of challenges and never won HOH - make them hate you and think you're not a threat. Take him with you til the end because anyone could win over him etc.... It was a great strategy and it fooled everyone. JMHO |
Seanflynn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:17 pm     Mystery -- If too many people try to duck either, BB will come up with away where it is not skill but luck of the draw |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:18 pm     Here is why HoH is important.... whomever wins HoH this week determines who is out if you are a fan of the non 6-pack - whatever. I ran these numbers but let me run em once more. assuming there are/will be - 6 (sixpac) and 5 (non) if a 6 pack wins HoH he/she noms 2 no then 6pac have 5 votes (one hoh) non's have 3 votes (two noms) Non is OUT the other route Non HoH - noms 2 6pacs veto to 6pac... HoH chooses another 6pac 6pac - 4 votes (2 noms) Regs - 4 votes (1 HoH) Tie - HoH breaks it - 6pac out. |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:19 pm     Roddy alread talked aobut throwing it, none of the 6pack want it except Josh I think, but they can't afford to let the other people get it either.... mwhahahaah |
Cameltoes | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:24 pm     Yes Ryn. It cracks me up. They all want someone else to be the fall guy and Josh is stupid enough to actually want to be the one to win HOH. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:28 pm     Ryn....good mathematics! I agree. |
Faerygdds | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:18 pm     can we NOT call them "the other people" shades of BB2's TOP and all that... I was in the kitchen when I thought of an excellent moniker for them... The Dream Team! Why? If the think you can win this game without being Machiavellian in any way shape or form... they are DREAMING!!! |
Grumblingdrake | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:54 pm     Personally, I want to see one of the Geckos win. (just kidding... looking for an excuse to post so I can say Hi to faerygdds) |
Maris | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:02 pm     I think Marcellas will do everythhing in his power to get HOH. If he gets HOH he will put Josh up against Tonya. |