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Kapow

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:12 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Perhaps the long term exposure to bleach in her head has affected her brain. Or maybe aluminum has affected her short term memory. Her poor children - BTW - does anyone know the age range of her kids?

Maris

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know she said she has a four year old. Dont know about the others.

Iceprincess

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I remember the 4 year old...it shocked me that she said that the 4 year old calls her breats chi chis and her pelvic area a hootchee...Then said I don't know where she gets it from it is so cute...Then I remembered her in the hot tub saying that Tonya herself used those words to describe her parts...so leads me to believe her kids are smarter then their mother.

Kstme

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
kstme would like to make a declaration that NOT ALL WOMEN FROM VEGAS are like Tonya! Thank you from myself and thekid!

Spygirl

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The 4 year old is also the one who stole the basting brush from a store and Tonya did not make her return it because she needed a basting brush.

Loppes

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Spygirl,
That is sick, if my 7 year old did that I would take her right back to where she stole it from.
Couldn't Tonya afford a dollar for a basting brush?

Alegria

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The people posting here have much better sense than the subject of the conversation. It is pretty unusual to see a mom of five, especially little ones, leave them for this length of time to be on a tv show (no less!) With kids things are always happening, they get sick/hurt need their parents...

At this point I don't have any expectations regarding Tonya's good judgement or common sense and only hope (for her sake) that she does not really make a total fool of herself for the world to see.

Wcv63

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What an interesting discussion! IMO, sexuality is being used as a tool, a weapon if you will, in this game by 3 of the women and 3 of the men. The 'six pack' are using it to "bond" themselves to each other and to intimidate the "others".

In the women catagory, Tonya seems to be the one most obsessed with her own body and her sexuality. She has talked about having a boob job, a tummy tuck, collagen injections, etc. It seems that she defines herself and her worth with her appearance.

Chiara is playing with sex like its a game. Using it to tease and intimidate. Lisa is being more selective with whom and how she plays with sexuality.

Josh is the most agressive in objectifying the women but to be fair they are not only putting up with it but encouraging it.

Eric and Roddy are both eager participants in the game but are somewhat more reserved in their responses....so far anyway.

The "others" may have discussed sex and sexuality but it seems they are much more focused on the game.

Bridgetlovesbb

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 06:10 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What said:
<Feminism or no feminism, this is true of most of the women I know. If the price is high enough, they will sell themselves. May not be for money, may be something else. Often for marriage with a man they do not love that much or simply a man who will given them children. But they will sell themselves.

Watch the pre-teen and early teen girls. They practice it daily and are egged on by such celebrities as Brittany Spears and all the teen magazines. It is the way girls are raised in this society.>


I cant even tell you how untrue this statement is. Not all women or even most women "sell
themselves" and not all or most girls are raised to sell themselves! That is offensive.

Oregon said:
<Then I hope you understand my point of view when say that most men I observe are lying cheaters. I mean, I'm just putting it out there, right? So men of the world realize that we are on to you.>

I HOPE you were only making this statement to make a point of generalization.

We are all entitled to our opinions. I for one did not see the tonya/chiara thing and i DONT want to. I would have been offended but the way i see it is.......if you dont like what you see DONT WATCH IT! I choose not to watch certain things because they offend me and I dont think they are moral but they are still out there.
Whoever said "its just sex!", that DOES offend me. But thats just my opinion!!

Oregonfire

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 06:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yup, to make a point. And I said that other thing too--it is just sex to me, in the broader sense of the word. Not a big deal, especially on a live feed where viewers contractually agreed not to throw a legal hissy fit about the potential adult content.

Earthmother

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Tonya, Tonya, Tonya...that whole Hitler thing just reafirmed that when they increased her bust size it's like they needed a graft and I think they took it from her brain...Can you imagine raising 5 kids without one ounce of smarts..