Cameltoes | Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 09:58 pm     It was very interesting during the challenge how most eliminated themselves first. That says alot about the group think. |
Chyang | Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 10:19 pm     Real's got the clear picture on this. Gerry will check with Lisa and follows her wish. If he passed the power, he'd either tell Lori and Marc. each a sad story like how he has really made friends with both of them and find it hard to decide, or simply claim to be playing the game.... Lostlikely he'd begic the conv. with....really don't want to play the game.... he loves every HG.... But, even though this VETO power feels as important as the Great Britain Monarch, five weeks from now, when there's seven HGs left, it should be very appealing! Maris, I have the same thoughts you have about the "Twists" Arni promised. He never mentioned when, at what point of the game, or if there could ever be "twist" on top of "twist". Come to think of it, they did dropped a lot of hints to us, or shall we say "build ups" before this "twist" was revealed to all. So I have a very small feeling that maybe the VETO thing was IT, or at least the biggest plot his production team could come up with, that actually aprooved by Arni!! |
Skol | Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 10:20 pm     The veto power will become more interesting as the numbers diminish. When they get down to four hgs divided into equal numbered alliances, the hoh would nominate two from the opposing alliance. Say for example, Lisa was HOH and she was allied with Chiara and she put up Jason and Danielle. Then Jason won veto and removed Danielle, Lisa would have to nominate Chiara. The only person allowed to vote would be Jason and his two person alliance could take control of the game. This makes the HOH position less powerful as the game goes on. They wouldn't have an automatic lock on the game. |
Tabbyking | Saturday, July 13, 2002 - 11:34 pm     Media game results are up, so you can go make your picks and choose there whether or not gerry will exercise his veto power! |
Eliz87 | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 07:04 am     I just wish that whoever won the veto challenge was REQUIRED to keep one of the current nominees. Would make it more exciting that way. |
Aussiedeb | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 07:19 am     I hope they put in when Gerry does his veto and Lisa is about to announce the replacement, that BB comes over and says"Sorry Lisa, new twist, the other nominee gets to choose who to run against". Sorry if someone has said this..still half asleep and meds are still messing with me here.. But I say more twists Arnie please, just to throw that group of "beautiful people" off track.. |
Corriecat | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 09:16 am     I agree with those who think the veto does not have enough power to change the game. The HOH should not be the one to pick the new evictee. Give that power to the veto winner or even better to the nominee that gets saved. As it stands now you are only causing the HOH to pick 3 nominees each week. They are smart enought to figure out if they put an unpopular person and a popular person up the popular one will be saved and they can easily substitute someone else they really want to see gone. |
Pamy | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:03 am     Does anyone know when he has to decide? If it's not until Wed then that would only leave 1 day for the new nom to try and save face.
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Maris | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:09 am     I believe he has to decide on Monday. |
Auntiedotcom | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:12 am     gerry has to decide by monday house meeting. i think he will save marcellus. if he saves marcellus, then lisa will have to decide who to nominate in his place. she is totally cowed by the men, especially eric. i think she will put up amy. amy will go. if gerry does not use his veto power, i think that maybe LORI will be the one to go, rather than marcellus. there is a definite spin going on now to paint lori out of the picture, led by eric and roddy. |
Maris | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:15 am     Does anyone know when lisa has to put up the other nomination? Does she have to do it on Monday? |
Alegria | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:20 am     How would it help Gerry to use the veto? Since he would not be able to name the replacement nominee the veto is pretty useless. Maybe later on in the show the veto could cause some exciting upsets but that does not seem likely at this point. |
Aloha1961 | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:37 am     i would hope gerry would use his veto and but i don't care who he saves i just would love to see lisa put josh on the chopping block... and then maybe josh will leave... he's showing his manipulations to alot of people so i think his time will come soon.. |
Car54 | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:46 am     He says he wants to talk with Lisa...I don't think he is going to do anything unless she has decided she needs his action to change her nominations. |
Hardywins | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 10:59 am     Status Quo! If Gerry violates the sanctity of the Cartel; he may gain one friend but will lose the other five members of the cartel; thus dooming himself! Gerry seems to be falling into the Kent syndrome of playing the game too far in advance ( meaning the contemplation of eliminating members of the cartel). Kent really p-oed Hardy last year by playing the game too far ahead instead of simply methodically and sequentially eliminating chilltown. Hardy then turned on Kent and got Kent out. Same thing may well happen to Gerry because he is getting on other cartel members nerves by playing too far in advance. |
Cousin_Jake | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 11:26 am     Gerry is already out as far as the body nazis are concerned so he might as well use the veto. At least then their negative opinion of him will be out in the open. |
What555456 | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 11:29 am     Gerry will only veto someone if he feels (knows) he has the support of whatever group is in power at the moment. If he does not find a consensus about what he should do, he will veto no one and let the blame lay with Lisa for whatever happens. |
Chyang | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 11:31 am     I still don't see Gerry doing anything but a "safe" move. Agree with those of you, I also think it'd be much more fun if the Veto king is forced to both saving and replace the nomed. Only one other thing could make it more interesting-- BB comes on and give Josh a penalty nomination! But if any producer over there is actually working for ratings, they'd try to keep Josh in a few more weeks until all 50 states are screaming for him to be evicted! |
Liddiebug | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 01:31 pm     I think that Gerry will do absolutly nothing with his veto power, and think himself superior for it. |
Maris | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:04 pm     I hope he does veto it. Chiara, Lisa and Tonya were just talking about it and Tonya was saying Gerry is such an idiot he isnt changing anything. Chiara agreed, and said he just wanted to show his power. Lisa agreed he wont use the veto. Oh I hope he uses it but I think they are right. |
C1mag | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:37 pm     I think he is going to veto. The man is not an idiot. He knows that the "in crowd" is NEVER going to let him in this game no matter how much they lie to him. He knows the score and would be smart to see another potential alliance as his road to victory. I'm sure he has counted the people and has come up with other potential alliances with, Marc, Amy, Dan, Jason, and Lori. All of whom he would think he might have a chance to beat in the end. Or at least a better chance at making the last 5 or 6. If he keeps the nomination as it is then he comes across as a sucker and I don't see this guy as a sucker. We forget that as a teacher he has a lot more strength in character if any of them tried to be rude to him for making the choice to change the game up or mix it up. So his real delima is.. Hand the prize to the "in crowd" by keeping the nominations the same where he gets booted real early in the game. OR.... Mix it up, gain new support and have a better chance at going further in the game against people he might be able to beat to the finsih line. My guess is the man will mix it up and veto. If he doesn't then he deserves to be booted very early because he failed to prove he was worthy of this prize. What he isn't aware of is if he does veto then Josh will be nominated as instructed by Eric to do in that event so it looks like they aren't being to mean. Josh will seal his own fate against Lori when he freaks for 3 days while being on the chopping block and both Lori and Marc will have beat the boot. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 03:42 pm     C1mag - "The man is not an idiot." Doesn't that belong in the "Is Gerry an idiot?" thread? LOL |
C1mag | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:14 pm     By the way, after hearing the latest conversation with Gerry, Marc and Amy I would put all my savings on the fact that Gerry will definitely be vetoing tomorrow. It's a done deal. He all but told Marc it's taken care of. Let the games begin! |
Mystery | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:31 pm     I just watched last night's show on tape and I was disappointed that all the HGs aimed at their own targets in order to avoid getting the veto. I would like to see the chance of doing that eliminated from other veto competitions. When I first heard the veto challenge I thought wow, this will stir things up, people will be aiming to eliminate the veto chance for people they dislike. But the result disappointed me. It was too much like the last BB when hardly anyone wanted to step up and be HOH. Maybe if everyone couldn't see who the HGs were aiming at, they would have aimed at the people they dislike instead of at themselves? |
Kaili | Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:39 pm     If they just told them they are having a challenge and that it might be the veto, might be food, or it might be a luxury. They would never know which they were playing for and either would all try to win, or try not to win thinking it might be the veto. Then those who are avoiding getting veto power wouldn't get a luxury or food. That would force them to try to win until the veto one was the last one for that week. |