Archive through June 14, 2002
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Unexpected Twists and Turns in BB3?:
Archive through June 14, 2002
Wcv63 | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 03:31 pm     Hi Wink and Fruitbat! I'm happy to see everyone again. |
Rabbit | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 04:21 pm     Accckkkk!!!!! It's you !! <Rabbit gives a warning grrrrowl to the Alphanumeric-Cyber-Entity> |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 05:22 pm     I hated the Survivor people coming in; that just broke their own rules and looked to be a BIG attempt to manipulate the outcome. I followed last year's Aussie BB closely and the addition of the intruders was interesting but seemed awfully stressful for the intruders. Don't know if they are doing that this time or not.. but I would say anonymous intruders who stay to play would be better than Survivors. Wcv63.. your crabby name could be Wcrabv63! |
Wilsonatmd | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 05:45 pm     this is interesting....remember I told you about the house split in the UK BB3? Well, although perhaps not as a direct result of it, a SECOND person has chosen to leave voluntarily....one left in the first week! I wonder if any of the "changes" this year for the US will cause this.... |
Seamonkey | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:07 pm     What reasons are they giving for leaving, Wilson?? Glad you are going to be around for US BB.. |
Mygetaway | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:31 pm     I agree with Sea that we West Coasters are usually on the short end of the stick, so we deserve to have this one little thing..{LOL} (BB house out here) As for the way the house runs.. I also think there needs to be a little bit more to do during their days. I liked the group challenges where they had to work together, like in the first season. I like the idea of a HOH, but I'm not sure if I like them having all the "power" of deciding who gets nominated. Let them have their own room, and special privileges, but I'd like to see some kind of contest or some other way of deciding who gets nominated. Maybe they should get points or something for doing their jobs, etc. as a part of it. What if they had to change room assignments every week? That might be interesting. No one group would be assured the "good" room, or good beds. I'm going to go check out the rest of the threads! I'm anxious for this to begin. |
Kaili | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:36 pm     I agree about the HOH- there should be a challenge like with immunity in Survivor. I like the room idea too. Maybe there will be just one big bedroom. Maybe the whole house should be open as one room (except for the bathroom)- like a studio apartment- so the only place they have to gossip and plot is outside or in the bathroom and everyone can see who is talking to eachother. |
Therlin | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:40 pm     Maybe it'll rain one day this year. That'd be an unexpected twist. |
Demeter | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:48 pm     Oh, I don't know Therlin, it snowed last year! |
Therlin | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 07:54 pm     And the HGs didn't seem very amused. |
Wilsonatmd | Tuesday, June 11, 2002 - 08:47 pm     Seamonkey...from what I read (and I'm only getting this off of websites since they decided to charge in the UK this time, plus I live in Maryland ;) )the first person who left (a woman) was a little too concerned about her aftershow image, because she was training to be a lawyer, plus she really never bonded with the group. The guy who's leaving never really bonded as well, and he really disliked one person...who ended up being with him on the "rich" side of the house when they split it....plus he was the oldest HG, at 43. (and there was a bit of a scandal after he entered..turns out he has a daughter he hasn't seen in about 15 years...) BB is also huge over there because there is a lot of wagering done on who goes and who stays...there have been accusations of trying to rig the vote as the betting parlors took a bath on the last eviction, which was decided by less than half a percentage point, and turned in the last 15 minutes of voting from one person to another. |
Keiffer | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 08:03 am     There seems to be a conflict of ideas here. On one hand people hated that people sat around smoking and playing cards all the time last year. On the other they seem to want to have a say in who gets voted out (to have some control on the HG's). If the public had been voting out, or nominating last year we would have had a complete summer of smoke, and cards because Will would have gotten voted out very early. Then the rest of Chill Town who like them or not would have been kicked out. In the limited space of the house the only ways for intrique are for there to be plotting for voting blocks, and sexual tension. If the public votes then neither of those things will ever happen because people that put themselves out there by either plotting, or flirting cause opinions to be made of them, and therefor causes the ones who are upset to call in and vote. Remember people in this country never vote FOR a person but AGAINST a person. |
Twiggyish | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 08:12 am     A good point about dislikes and likes. It almost seems the best way to stay is to be boring and under the radar. Plus, public opinion could also be swayed by creative editing by Arnie. Most people are not as educated about the house as we devoted internet fans. |
Julieboo | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 08:43 am     I liked it better when all members (not just HOH) voted for the 2 nominated people. I agree that we should not be the ones who vote off people. (I agree with Keiffer-read his/her post for reasons.) |
Wilsonatmd | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 02:04 pm     I think they can combine the two systems to make it better. This is how I would do it: -Every week the audience votes on people they want to stay in the house. These would be reset after every eviction, so it could change from week to week. -You would still have HOH contests, and a HOH -The bottom three non-HOH people would be in the "elimination zone" -The HOH would then save one of the three, and leave two for the eviction vote. -The HG would vote to evict, with the HOH not voting except in a tie. -When it got down to four, the audience would vote for a HOH, and the process would go as normal. -When it got down to three, I would still do a HOH contest, but it would be like this: 1/3 of the score would come from an audience vote 2/3 would come from things like a quiz or something. High score picks their finalist partner. -For the final 2: The audience and the 10 (assuming it is gong to be 12 HG to start), evicted HG vote for the winner. The audience vote counts 50%, and would be rounded to the nearest tenth of a percentage point (thus no tie is possible)=Total available points 100. Each evicted HG has 10 points they can split however they want among the 2 finalists. They must give all 10 points, and they must use whole numbers (so they can give one HG 7 and the other 3 for example, but they can't split it in ways like 7.5-2.5) Total available points=100 -High score wins. This lets both the audience decide who they want to see go, but still lets the HG make the choice (and gives the HOH a lot of power due to the fact he or she can save someone). It also gives the audience power in decidng who wins, which I think is neccessary. Since evictions and HOH contests most likely are on Thursdays, you can have votes take place from Thursday to say Sunday night, Announce the results to the HG on Monday, and give the HOH say 12 hours to make their decision on who to save in time for the midweek show. (and HOH MUST pick someone) |
Therlin | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 02:51 pm     Once a week, one lucky audience member will get to enter the house for 10 minutes with a cattle prod. It's confirmed. It's happening, for real. I'm hoping they'll pick me. |
Ketchuplover | Wednesday, June 12, 2002 - 07:41 pm     Can you say WAKE-UP CALL ? |
Keiffer | Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 10:03 am     Julieboo: Thanks, and btw I am a guy. Still people who insist on the public having some sort of say in who gets voted off have no answer for how boring the show would be if the interesting people are the ones voted out first. Lets look at history. In BB1 it was Jordan that got voted out early because the public didn't like the x-stripper being there flirting with Josh. Then Brit got out early because of the save George campaign. What besides the all for one against BB happened worth watching happened once the single women were gone? In BB2 is there any doubt that after the first week that it would have been Will, Shannon, then Mike voted out 1,2,3? Once they left all we would have had was smoking on the back porch to watch. The only saving grace the last few weeks was Will still being there. What is this fascination with thinking you have some say because you can call a 900 number? Don't you realize it would take at least 100-1000 calls to make any difference in the eviction? Also anyone who wants this 900# thing is no longer allowed to complain about them charging for live feeds. Yet another way to milk the fans out of some money. |
Julieboo | Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 11:06 am     I agree with you again, Keiffer! As much as I wanted certain House Guests voted off, those same people made the show worth watching. (Just like in Survivor. There were plenty of people who I wanted voted off--Sean, Rob M, etc--but they sure made the episodes more entertaining.) |
Grooch | Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 11:08 am     Will from TAR... |
Neko | Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 01:53 pm     Nah...I could have survived without Weasel. I'd have survived on Oswald and Danny. |
Seamonkey | Thursday, June 13, 2002 - 03:33 pm     awwww.. yesss... I miss those two. |
Wcv63 | Friday, June 14, 2002 - 05:26 am     Keiffer don't bring logic into this conversation! I want free live feeds and voting ability and I want to be able to complain about stuff and I realize all the contradictions in this post but I'm hormonal. So there. |
Keiffer | Friday, June 14, 2002 - 06:32 am     Wcx63 - LOL That is fantastic! I look forward to many good natured back and forths over the next three months with you. I love a person that can take an opposing view, yet not have to be all serious about it. Last year I was always being put down for defending, and rooting for CT. PS: I will make an effort to avoid any logic from now on. |
Floridagirl | Friday, June 14, 2002 - 07:07 am     It's really going to be hard to beat BB2...although I'm hoping for more confrontations and more single people...the stuff going on with Nicole and her husband kind of ruined the show for me. Her crying and nervous breakdowns were just too much to watch. I'm hoping for more comedians like Will and fun people who will do just about anything! Looking forward to the new season with everyone! |
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