It's JOSH and Tonya up for nomination
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It's JOSH and Tonya up for nomination
Penpoint | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:12 pm     Seamonkey, Josh has been melting down since day one. If he hasn't been obsessing over Marcellas, he's been going over the top against Gerry--his vindictiveness is a sure sign of meltdown. |
Moondance | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:19 pm     LOL Ryn... same reaction here... it was my wish right after Marc got HOH |
Bmh | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:19 pm     I dont see Tonya goin personally..Dani and Amy talked to Marcellas and they both know how much he wants Josh out..and Jason will do whatever Dani tells him to do..and Chiara and Lisa are gonna want to keep Tonya bc she is another girl Vote Amy-Josh Danielle-Josh Jason-Josh Gerry-Josh Chiara-Josh Lisa-Josh Eric-Tonya Roddy-Tonya So the vote would be 6-2 Josh..besides if the vote is some how a tie..Marcellas would just get rid of Josh..so all Josh needs is 4 votes to be evicted |
Floresmama | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:21 pm     I can't see anyone in the house really wanting to continued to watch the abuse that Josh is heaping on Gerry it has got to be a strain on them all. I am surprised that BB hasn't told him to cut it out. |
Ryanc2002 | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:22 pm     Be Kinda funny if Tony A went. |
Lurknomore | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:22 pm     Also, I'm not sure I agree with you votes Flores for one reason. There's been a few conversations about a girlpower type alliance. Given how they have all seen Josh for the weasel he is, I think some of the girls will at least want to keep Tonya around a few weeks to see how things in the house play out so they can decide if they want to do that or not. At this point I think EVERYONE views Josh as expendable, so if they are smart (and I'm still not sure about that lol) they will just all get him out. |
Cameltoes | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:25 pm     I agree Lurk. I will be disappointed if it's not a unanimous vote. An alliance of 5 is still a big deal with 10 people left. It's just like going back to the beginning. No need to sweat it yet or make waves. |
Floresmama | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:30 pm     So Lurk you are not saying that Josh won't be out you are saying you don't think there will be a need for Marc to excercise his vote right. That works for me too. My vote line up is a worst case scenerio to show that Josh is out in any case excluding veto. |
Firebird05 | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:32 pm     Dani. Amy and Jason IMO think Josh is the most easily swayed from the alliance. After all he did not go with the six-pack last eviction.. They have to know Tonya will just revert back to her original alliance (she doesn't seem to know that she was never really included). So I think they will keep Josh over her. |
Gouraphik | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:46 pm     Josh vs. Tonya? I mean, come on! Josh will lobby her plastic booty right outta there! I'm really disappointed in Marcellas, man. What I'm hoping is that Gerry or Amy (the most pro-Marcellas and trustworthy of the HG's right now) fixes this mess by winning the Veto and replacing Tonya with Roddy. If Tonya stays, and gets the boot, it'll be mostly for naught. The powerful people will still be in the game, the "Core 4" will still be intact, and there'll be nothing but weeping and gnashing of teeth in the house if any of the soon to be 5-packers win HOH next week. |
Lurknomore | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:51 pm     No Flores--I'm saying that they all (or at least the vast majority) will vote Josh out, because the women will still want to keep Tonya in the house for a potential female alliance that has been discussed. I don't think they (Chiapet and Lisa specifically) until they see how the next few weeks play out, but I think they want to keep that option open. I think most of the guys no longer trust Josh and see he was playing folks. My guess is they will keep Tonya thinking she will go along with them and they can trust her more than Josh. |
Ladytex | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:56 pm     They are already discussing Jason becoming the 6th member of the 6pack .... I guess they've already conceded Josh |
Floresmama | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 09:59 pm     That is what I am the most worried about at this point. It is quite obvious that Jason is enamored with Chiara but I can only hope he is playing around and he won't let it effect his possibility of winning the game. |
Firebird05 | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:00 pm     I sure hope you are right Lurk cause I would really love to see Josh go. |
Cameltoes | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:07 pm     Josh is such slime. One minute working Lisa to get her to veto and the next minute telling Tonya he's not doing anything like that or trying to talk to Lisa or Chiara. He did the same thing earlier. Weasel. |
Lurknomore | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:08 pm     I sure hope I am too |
Hardywins | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:14 pm     Marcellas nomed Tonya to control the remaining core 4 of the 6 pack alliance. He is telling them that if they veto Tonya or Josh's nom; he will nom one of the remaining core4. The core4 still desire to hang together and don't want to chance losing a core member so they won't veto either of the noms. Danielle got the wild idea that it was Gerry who instigated the playing of the black card instead of Josh; she would rather have Gerry go before Josh. Josh told her that he wants Josh gone but at least one of the remaining alliance must go this week. Marcellas will nominate one of the remaining core 4 if anyone does veto either of his noms. He will then work hard to have that core4 member evicted. I think that to be safe he should have nominated 2 of the original five alliance; he still would have been able to replace a vetoed nom with another core member. He probably didn't want to chance a core 4 member vetoing Josh, because the max damage had been done by two core alliance members being nomed so it wouldn't make much difference if another core4 member was substituted. This strategy could backfire though if all the core 4 members vote against Tonya and even only one of the others also vaotes against Tonya. Five votes will oust Tonya; leaving the core5 intact with Josh remaining. That is how Josh is hoping that the game will play out. He has returned to his arrogance since finding out that Tonya was up against him. Josh will desperately try to get one of the outside Kids to vote against Tonya. One of them might do so because everyone also knows that Tonya is now one of the PrettyDumb Alliance. Josh really cracked up BEFORE his nomination instead of waiting for it to happen. He pulled Bugger Mikes old tactic of telling Gerry OFF like Bugger told off Kent; insulting him and bringing his family into it saying that Gerry's family will be ashamed of what he did inside the house; below the belt! |
Fabnsab | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:21 pm     Guys, you're forgetting that Jason has spent alot of time with Tonya and,I believe, has a weakness for the ladies, especially the single mothers. Also, Amy has softened to Josh and loves the attention. Any chance to get one of the chicks out, she will take it. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:27 pm     "If Tonya stays, and gets the boot, it'll be mostly for naught. The powerful people will still be in the game, the "Core 4" will still be intact," I dunno....it occurs to me that Tonya is VERY loyal to the core 4...basically making it a voting block of FIVE. They can totally count on her to vote whichever way they tell her to in most cases (meaning she would never vote against a core 4 member if they were up against one of the "outsiders".) Of course, unbeknownst to her, they are not as loyal back. For instance...If Tonya were vetoed and replaced with Roddy and then Roddy was evicted....the core 4 would then be Lisa, Chia, Eric, and Tonya....and don't forget...she is still in a sub alliance with Lisa and Chia! Things will change a lot as the number of BB HGs decrease...at THAT point, she could be even more important to the "popular people"...especially the popular FEMALE people! I guess I just see it like this....if a "core 4" member leaves, Tonya would get a promotion from 'fringe" to "new core 4"... |
Sunlit | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:28 pm     I agree, Amy wants the other girls out. Actually, she wants someone to use the veto so Marc can nominate Chiapet and leave Roddy all for Amy! Poor Amy, her weakness is male attention, and it may cost her the game. |
Gouraphik | Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:47 pm     True, the "Core 4" would adapt to the situation if they lost a member, but I'd rather have Tonya in that group than Roddy. You can't destroy the "Core 4" or even the 6-pack (which is what they'll remain if they can recruit Jason, Danielle, or even Amy) in one week, but you can reduce the quality of their gene pool. Out with the strong...that's my motto. Once that's over with, you can do what you will with the weak. |
Fabnsab | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:04 am     Amy told mar the other night that Josh wasn't on the top of her list and when he asked who, she said Chiarra. Her cattiness will truly be the death of her. The men will pick up on this and use it to their advantage just as Chia and Roddy are using Jasons crush on Chia to theirs. |
Sanfranjoshfan | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:01 am     Gouraphik...within the last hour, Dani suggested to Marc that they bring Jason into *their* alliance, which also loosely includes Amy and Gerry at this point...although I think Dani is upset with Amy for talking too much. She also said that her gut told her to keep Josh, but that she would vote to evict him if that's what Marc wants....she also told him that if she wins Veto Power (and that she WILL try to win) that she will NOT use it! I swear there is SO MUCH in the way of back room politics going on, you'd think you were watching the Whitehouse, not the BB house! LOL I swear...this game could make a hairpin turn in a split second....oh wait, it just did that didn't it? :-) |
Sisalou | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:25 am     Penpoint, you expressed my feelings exactly. Josh has been on melt down since he's been there! Or, I guess it could just be the way he always is. LOL, Sanfran, I always love reading your posts. |
Twiggyish | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:59 am     Tonya's medical condition will be the reason the others evict her. |
Car54 | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:12 am     Twiggy, I was thinking the same thing...the ones who are sort of teetering will use it as an excuse to boot Tonya instead of Josh. The only hope we have to get Josh out is if the Veto winner saves Tonya and takes her out of line for a sympathy vote. |
Maris | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:12 am     a la Autumn, evicting her for her own good and her own health. I am with you there Twiggyish. |
Paulyaceiii | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 08:14 am     By the way, I caught some of the feeds yesterday. Noticed that for about a 30-minute period last night say around 9, the 4 feeds were on 2 people out of the 11. Josh and Tonya. 1-2 had Josh sleeping 3-4 had Tonya doing her hair Coinky dink? |
Squaredsc | Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 09:49 am     what's tonya's medical condition. also someone mentioned that jason has a weakness for single mothers, i thought tonya didn't have custody of her kids? i am good with the nominations because if he had josh vs lisa, then if one of the sex pac got the veto then vetoed lisa, oh he** nevermind that doesn't sound right. ok, josh vs tonya, someone gets veto, doesn't use it, then i could see josh leaving 'cause the sex pac could still have the majority, with chia lisa roddy tonya eric vs marc dani jason gerry and amy is a swing so far, imo. |
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