Bladewelder | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:24 pm     Of course remember last year when Mike nominated Nicole & Sheryl thinking that everyone would vote Nicole out and poor Sheryl ended up leaving. Gerry was hoping that Lisa would nominate Josh and that everyone will vote Josh out instead of Lori (whom he still really wants to stay). Oh Gerry, this is going to backfire just like last year and Josh will end up staying till the end!!! UGH!! |
Shadowkat | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:26 pm     Not everyone!! Roddy is sitting outside with Amy, Marcelles, Danielle, and Lori. They were talking about the 6-pack, and Roddy says he knows nothing about it!! Roddy is smart for talking to the "out" crowd! |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:27 pm     As I said in the Veto thread, Marcellas played his hand TOO soon. Instead of trying to recruit everyone to get Josh out before the veto thang, he should have gone along with this stategy, played it up, THEN and only then gone after Josh. Gerry had the right idea but none of them were smart enough or organized enough to pull it off. |
Bladewelder | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:31 pm     Lurknomore, you're right. Gerry did have the right idea. Personally I think he's the only one (aside from Jason) who has any brains. At the beginning I immediately like Danielle thinking she was a level-headed player but I'm not so sure now. She spends a lot of time siding up with the other girls. Who knows?? Maybe she's just acting like one of them for now and then she'll turn against them later..... |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:34 pm     my turn to agree with you Blade...I'm on the same page with Danielle. Really liked her at first, now not sure at all. I also think there is a lot more to Jason and Roddy than they have shown. Think they are both trying to fly under the radar and not paint themselves into any corners. |
Iceprincess | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:36 pm     Bonkers or Narcistic...Egocentric...take your pick. These people are so freaking selfcentered it is NOT even funny. Their WHOLE plan is based on the one fact that each one of them will win HOH each week. I would love to see a non six packer win and THROW their whole world off axis!!! |
Abigail1970 | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:37 pm     Does anyone agree that this years group talks about alliances and such constantly? It's almost like there is just way too much talking about it. And I can't wait until they get caught talking about someone, like Lisa caught Josh. |
Tabbyking | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:39 pm     roddy is not exactly under the radar when he sleeps with chia pet already and was in the bathroom during the shaving cream bikini act. he isn't as verbal in showing his hand, though, i'll give you that. i still don't like him much. if he split with chia pet, i would have more respect for him. i understand they are just using the girls for now, though. seems like the girls would know since they have basically put themselves out to be used in both their home and BB lives! i still feel bad about how chia pet treats jason. enough is enough already. i think she's just jealous that here is a guy about her own age who is 'unsullied', where we all know she is far,far, far.... from that! she may be one who feels superior if she can make someone else uncomfortable. |
Tabbyking | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:42 pm     abigail, i think there has always been a lot of alliance talk, but it seems 'early' this year. i don't remember so much talk while all 12 were still in the house, that's for sure!! |
Bladewelder | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:44 pm     I have to agree with Iceprincess. I truly thought the 'self-centred' thought about them all the very first night and with each day that goes on (I read the live feed posts since I don't have live feed - thanks everyone!!) my thoughts haven't changed. I'm looking forward to someone like Gerry, Marcellas, Jason or Amy to win HoH next!! For sure Josh is gone then! |
Abigail1970 | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:46 pm     Yeah, real early. And it's so funny how like all of them have like 5 different alliances. I just wish sometimes you could just drop into the house and fill them in on what's going on. Drives me nuts sometimes. |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:46 pm     Let me explain more what I mean by Roddy being "under the radar." While he is clearly pals with the SelfLovers, he has really held back on what he has said. As far as I've heard he hasn't been in on most of the strategy discussions, and the ones I've seen him on he usually just stands there and nods, not playing a really active role. My gut tells me, as it does with Jason, there is a LOT more to the guy than he is currently showing. I think we'll see this come out if they are both here down the road. |
Dovedzwiek | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:48 pm     The "6-Pack" is more like the "Ego-Eight". |
Cameltoes | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:49 pm     I agree Lurk - he is letting his alliance members dig their own graves in terms of how the rest of the house perceives them. He strategizes with Eric and Josh almost exclusively and lets them look like the masterminds who talk to everyone else. |
Mware | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:52 pm     Not so soon, Bladewelder. Unfortunately, having one of the "regular people" win HOH wouldn't guarantee the eviction of one of the 6 pack. Regardless of who leaves this week, that leaves the regular people with 5 votes at most. Again, Jason and Danielle have not firmly joined a group yet. If one of them becomes HOH, that drops them to 4 votes at most. The 6 pack, if two of them were put up for nomination, would still have 4 votes against the regular people's 4 votes max. And heaven forbid one of the 6 pack winning the veto, because that would guarantee the departure of another one of the regular people. Unfortunately, the math doesn't favor the regular people for as long as the 6 pack stays strong. (Say what you will about him, but Josh did have the right idea about the size of the alliance he needed to maintain control. So that's like, what? One point for him, twenty zillion against?) |
Pulk | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 12:57 pm     The others dont have to win both HoH and veto, just HoH is enough. The 6 pack can veto one of their own but then HoH just has to replace them with another one from that camp. Then HoH will come in after a 4-4 tiebreaker and vote of a 6 pack. |
Iceprincess | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:00 pm     Oh good point Pulk. I don't think they realize that. Very interesting as the plot thickens. Only 3 more days of this talk...I already have a headache....LOL |
Floresmama | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:04 pm     I disagree Mware if one of the regular people wins HOH and put up two of the "beautiful" people even if they win the veto the regular person HOH still substitutes a "beautiful" person and one of them is out. No matter what. That is what we need to have happen. Gerry, Mar, or Amy need to win HOH. Then we can get rid of at least one of them. |
Lurknomore | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:10 pm     Personally I still prefer thinking of that group as the "LessNauseatings." I wouldn't go as far as calling them "regular" lol |
Pulk | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:21 pm     With regards the HoH competition i dont think things lookd good for the regular people. Look as the line ups when it comes to competing. You have to favor B5 (Lisa sits out) when it comes down to competing for HoH against Gerry, Amy and Marcellas. Sadly I think the most B6 will lose in this game is 2 people before they are even forced to vote one eachother. |
Dovedzwiek | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:30 pm     "Beautiful" people with JOSH in it? That's an Oxymoron if I every saw one! LOL and am I wrong here but isn't Amy against Josh? And if so, does that mean that the "6-pack" put Amy up against Lori and still plan on keeping Lori and getting rid of Amy? I'm very happy with Gerry for dropping the "6-pack" and making them the "Powerless Pee-on's". I've been rooting for the "Nesters" ever since Josh opened his mouth. |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:30 pm     "I'm beginning to think everyone in the house is bonkers!!" I'll co-sign that!!! |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:31 pm     Lori is gonnnnneeeeeee the six pack is strong - current members are Eric, Roddy, Chiara, Lisa (core four - hey I just came up with that) - then Josh and Tonya. |
Cameltoes | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:31 pm     Yeah, the numbers don't look good for the Classy ones. The only thing working in their favor is that several of the 6 Pack don't really want the HOH. They want someone else on their group to take the fall. It will be interesting to see how the competition plays out. |
Ladytex | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:35 pm     I would love to have Amy, Gerry, or Marcellas win Hoh next time, put up Josh and Chiara, then if one of the B6 wins veto, who would they save??? Then have the Hoh put up Tanya or Eric in place ... who do they save? Will that cause a rift in the group? |
Sanfranjoshfan | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:41 pm     True....if any "reg" person gets HOH....then one of the 6pack is gone! |
Ryn | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 01:49 pm     and it will be a tie - and HoH will have to break - if the "regs" can stick together. |
Kathyb | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:05 pm     Abigail, I agree with you. I don't ever remember such constant strategizing in previous BBs. If this is going to go on like this until the end, I'll go bonkers. They don't talk about anything else. |
Peachie | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:38 pm     They sure do eat up all the food fast too dont they. Keep hearing them say they dont have much left to eat and it is only Monday? Wow! Sounds like they dont know how to ration. |
Corriecat | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 04:24 am     Danielle reminds me of Vee from Survivor. She's making friends with all the women but not really doing much else to cause attention to herself. |