Archive through July 18, 2002
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Why is Gerry everyone's punching bag?:
Archive through July 18, 2002
Lawyerman | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:05 pm     Except for Marcellas and Jason, everyone is putting him down and putting him down. The purposeful alienation of Gerry is a cruel way to treat another human. Whatever Gerry has done, it doesn't justify the alienation and two faced treatment, does it? Why is Gerry everyone's punching bag? I can understand why Amy and Josh don't like him. They have specific, personal reasons for not liking him. For the six pack and Amy, it's like they have a need for someone in the house to despise. I can't stand how two faced Amy is when it comes to Gerry. Even to a minor degree - most prominent the hand washing incident - Danielle has been a bit two faced, but I only put her in the category of haters to a minor degree because she passively listens as everyone else puts him down instead of walking out when the conversation gets really ugly. Does anyone besides Josh and Amy have specific, personal, and articulable reasons to dislike Gerry? These people are ugly and cruel and they seem to think that they're actions are acceptable. It's hard to watch. |
Curlyq | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:10 pm     They didn't get their way, and Gerry vetoing Marcellus' nomination played a big part in that so they're taking out all their frustration on him. It's easier than admitting they were short-sighted fools to count on riding an alliance to the end. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:10 pm     It's simple, they're a pack of rabit wolves following a rabid leader. |
Ryn | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:13 pm     Yup - gerry veto'd marcel, told lisa to put up josh, basically mucked up the whole 6pack plan (of course gerry was already out of the 6pack and didn't know it). They also are mad at him for his veto speech, feeling he implied they picked marcel for racisist & homophobic reasons - making them look bad. and it is hard to watch - and CBS is not offering us anything else on the feeds (or weren't). I feel sorry for Gerry, although I still don't know what he was doing when he told amy she was going to be out. THAT was dumb. |
Muse | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:14 pm     A) The main reason: because he didn't do what they wanted him to do. B) Because he's different - it's easier to pick on flaws when you don't feel you have much in common with him. It's really cruel. You can't even blame it on the stress of the house, since they've only been there a week and a half. |
Xanaxnyquil | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:18 pm     No one likes Gerry because he's two-faced and self-serving. Gerry's grandiose "I'm no homophobe, some of my wife's best friends are gay; I'm not a racist, I got little black nephews" statements are as disgusting as Chiara's lewd comments are vulgar (if funny). I can't wait'll they get the spooky <edit> outta the joint! 007 |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:24 pm     Wow Xanax--I didn't realize being old and fat was the determining factors that someone shouldn't be in the BB house. Now if you think that your first two issues (and those are issues qualify for the reasons he should be gone), then why bring up the other stuff? I'm old and fat--do you think I should leave? (and depending on who you ask, maybe even demented) |
Maris | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:24 pm     well xanax I am with you on the first line and the second paragraph. I want him gone too but there is plenty of time for it. Priority is to get josh out. Face it everyone wants Gerry out. He is slimy in another way but he is slimey. |
Kmjm | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:25 pm     Actually, I think Gerry's comments hit a bit too close to home for all of them. He was right- Marcellus was an easy target because he was "different". Why is Josh now lying, saying the whole thing about nominating M was Gerry's idea? Gerry WAS pretty pompous about it all, but he was sincere and well motivated. I think the rest of the bunch are the two-faced ones, not Gerry. They say the most vicious things about him, then smile to his face. It's sickening. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:27 pm     Ya know, Gerry puts us in an odd posistion. Normally we whine because they get rid of the hated yet exciting people first in favor of the nice and boring people.. Gerry is both hated and boring...Wow. |
Xanaxnyquil | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:28 pm     Lance: Read my first line again: No one likes Gerry because he's two-faced and self-serving. That's why I don't like him. His self-serving statements make me cringe and ashamed to be a white man. He's a fool. He's also fat but mostly he's a fool. And no- I don't want you to go away. There's room for everyone. Just don't eat all the pizza. |
Maris | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:30 pm     well I would keep Gerry around. Everyone hates him. Not a single HG likes him. That is the guy you want to be up against in the final two. You can bet that no matter who it is they would win against Gerry in the final two. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:30 pm     Don't eat all the pizza?? How do you think I got fat? |
Bmh | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:32 pm     I feel really bad for Gerry..I mean I understand that the alliance and Josh especially feels like Gerry accused them of being racist and prejudice and they should be mad..but they are taking it over the top..they are just plain cruel..and I was surprised to find out that Danielle and Amy bad-mouth him too..it's awful..they did the same thing to Lori..I just hope Gerry can live in that house knowing over half the house hates him... |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:35 pm     Ya know? I sort of understand why they do it. In the real world if you're mad at someone or just plain hate them you wwalk away and cool off. These people, with the exception of HOH don't have that option. The solution? Get together and have a b!tchfest. |
Muse | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:38 pm     If I was Marcellas I'd definitely keep Gerry around. He'd look pretty bad if he didn't, what with Gerry using the veto and all. People would later use it as a reason not to trust him - remember how Hardy and Nicole made fun of Bunky for voting Kent out, even though they told him he should? Plus Gerry is more hated than Marcellas...I would imagine that the alliance would target Gerry next week, and hold off on getting rid of Marcellas. It's not like Gerry is the type who can keep quiet and stop pissing people off...lol. And if by some chance Gerry wins HOH next time - well, Marcellas is guaranteed safe for another round. I'm not a big fan of Gerry's (although I do like him better than some of them), but he could be very useful to certain people (Marcellas, Amy, Danielle, Jason - possibly even Roddy if he plays it right), at least for a little while. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:40 pm     Ryan, there is another option, however not namy people use it--address your issues directly to the person. It really is possible to have an issue oriented discussion when you are less than happy. I think it's just easier for most people to not have to put forth the effort. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:41 pm     Marcelleas would look bad to us to nominate Gerry, but think about this. Everyone hates Gerry, so if Marcelias dumps Gerry he looks like a god in the house. Like Amy said, it's a new week and a new game. |
Texastillie | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:43 pm     Gerry obviously doesn't fit into their little spoiled brat pack but I give him quite a bit of credit (as I did Kent last year) for being a pretty straight-shooter - even when it is the unpopular thing to do. Self-serving you say? He has acted anything but self-serving. He could have made the pack happy with him by not using the veto but he used it anyway. Even though Gerry (and Kent) would never be on my list of people I want to spend a lot of time with, I do respect them. The REAL self-serving ones are the 6 who think the show is only about them and everyone else is just there so they can have some people besides themselves to eliminate. I can't wait until they are voting each other out! |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:44 pm     I don't know Lance, addressing this issue with Gerry isn't going to fix it, whereas b!tching to the others at least lets them vent. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:46 pm     Texastille - He does seem to be planting seeds trying to take the heat off of himself and place it on others.. |
Lancecrossfire | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:46 pm     Well, addressing the hand washing thing directly to Gerry fixed it, and without any grief at all from Gerry. Ryan, you make a good point about the potential strategy value in nominating Gerry. I'm betting Marc is going to decide that doing so would cost him way more than he's willing to "pay". Just a hunch of course. |
Gouraphik | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:47 pm     Even if Marc despises Gerry, he's got to wipe Josh out. Josh seems to be very vindictive, and he'll smite both Gerry and Marcellas in a second if he ever gets the chance. If he's smart, Marc will boot Josh, keep Gerry around as an ally & object of hate for the others, and get into the top 2 (if he's lucky). |
Seamonkey | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:49 pm     Presentation.. being right in the house isn't worth a fig if you embarrass a group of them. Lori was dead right when she confronted Danielle and the others for working up a hate on Gerry about hand-washing.. and not only were they righteous toward Lori, they kept on hating Gerry, even though he reacted calmly. Gerry may have been right about why marcellas was targetted, but calling them all on it publicly just solidified them against him. He could have stated his own mea culpas in the diary room and not rocked the boat in the house. Gerry did rock the boat with his use of the veto but that was key.. had he caved in to those who strive for total control (Josh and some others) it would have set a bad precedent. He's too honest at times. And Gerry DOES come off as pompous. And then, he's dealing with a bunch of people who are, by definition, out to rip each other to shreds.. He annoys me but I think the group is being unnecessarily cruel. |
Ryanc2002 | Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 10:54 pm     Lance - This issue is bigger. Gouraphik - Everyone hates Gerry, a few like Josh. His best bet? Nominate both Josh and Gerry. I see it going down like this. Gerry Chia Roddy Tonya Lisa Amy Eric Josh Danielle Jason |
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