Jesse | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:35 pm     The best move Josh could do now is make Dani the same deal he tried to make with M . . . and that is a promise that he will never nominate her or vote against her is she vetos him. |
Bmh | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:40 pm     OK just now on the feeds..Marcellas and Amy were strategizing..and Marc wants Josh out and Amy said she understands completely and will vote to evict josh if..he helps her get rid of chiara..so who is amy lying to Marcellas or Josh?..It's gotta be Josh So the way I see it the votes to evict Josh are: Chiara Lisa Gerry Amy Jason and Danielle are wild-cards and Eric and Roddy are going to vote to evict Tonya.. So as long as Amy is telling the truth to Marcellas then Josh is gone..all he needs is 4 votes to evict and Marc can kick him out! |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:43 pm     It's insane to me that in order to get Josh gone Lisa and Chiara have to be counted on while Danielle and Jason cannot be. |
Jesse | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:46 pm     So true Cameltoes . . . Dani's and Jason's lack of committment to a group was smart in the beginning, but it soon will wear thin . . . and towards the end everyone will remember who they were able to trust from the beginning. |
Zachsmom | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:47 pm     because Jason and Dani know that in the end if they are across from Josh..they can win the game.. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:52 pm     They (Danielle moreso) think that but they are being shortsighted. Jason even specifically made reference to Richard Hatch winning Survivor. Whenever people are so sure they can win against a certain person, it comes back to haunt them. |
Zachsmom | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:59 pm     jason is a lot smarter than what the HGs give him credit for..they should be afraid..very afraid of Jason.. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:03 pm     Jason is very smart. Left to his own devices he could win this game. However, his trust in Danielle could be his downfall. He should trust his own instincts and no one else because every single person in that house would vote him out in a heartbeat. The fact that Danielle wants to keep Josh around for the end game should be sending up red flags for Jason. I hope he votes independently of Danielle this Thursday. |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:08 pm     Which is stronger:The power of veto or the power of cheese? |
Zachsmom | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:21 pm     why the power of cheese Ketchup..just ask Amy.. |
Crazykids | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:28 pm     I am sorry I missed something??? Did Danielle already make her decision not to veto? and it is stil Josh and Tonya? |
Lilsandi | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:38 pm     Im a bit confused too Crazykids. I have been out of town this weekend. Im trying to catch up. Someone said Danielle no longer has power to veto she was neutrelized. Whats that about. |
Bob2112 | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:45 pm     To summarize:
- Ketchup is a nut (and a condiment)!
- You can only be neutralized in the Mole.
- After sleeping on it, Danielle has told Marci that she will not use the veto.
has the power! Glad I could help!  |
Gouraphik | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:48 pm     Danielle simply cannot be trusted. If she's truly decided not to use the power of veto, all that means is that she'll try to save Josh (for her own purposes) by voting with the 6-packers (and convincing them to save Josh as well). She can easily do this, with or without Jason's help. This is why I've been saying that Marcellas should've put Josh & Roddy up in the first place, and if Roddy got vetoed out, throw up Eric or Lisa in his place. Losing Tonya isn't much of a consolation prize, IMO. However, if Danielle screws things up and uses the Veto, the plot to remove Josh could still work. If Danielle removes Josh, put Roddy up. Roddy would probably stay in the house, but Danielle would be tarnished as a result. If Danielle removes Tonya, put Roddy up, regardless of whatever she was promised. Roddy would likely stay, but if he didn't, at least one powerful 6-packer (rather than a weak one) is out. As a bonus, Danielle would take a larger hit in the eyes of the remaining 6-packers, reducing her ability to stay allied with them. Danielle may well have realized this and decided to leave the Josh vs. Tonya situation as is in order to make sure that she keeps Josh without damaging herself in the process. She's still a mighty foe, and needs to be bumped up in the "hit list" as a result. Anyway, we'll see what goes down on Monday, won't we? |
Ketchuplover | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:30 pm     No we won't |
Aloha1961 | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:44 pm     according to live feeds dani said she wont use the veto.. so i think the votes will be: Lisa to evict josh chi to evict josh gerry to evict josh amy to evict josh (because she told marc she would) eric to evict tonya roddy to evict tonya dani to evict tonya jason to evict tonya (because he and dani are in an alliance together) marcellus to break tie and then bye-bye josh.. i am hopeing it turns out that way |
Jan | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:48 pm     I think Josh thinks he has the 5 votes needed to stay. Maybe Dani thinks so too and that might be why she gave in to MArcel about not using the veto. But, if Amy is true to her word to Marcel, then Josh is gone. With Amy's vote to evict Josh as well as Gerry's, Lisa's and Chiara's, that's 4 votes to evict Josh..so at least a tie. Marcel then has the control to kick him out. So even If Dani and jason vote to evict T, as long as Amy keeps her word, Josh is gone. |
Bmh | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:52 pm     me too Aloha1961!.. But I think maybe Jason will vote to evict Josh too..bc he doesn't trust the guy..and told danielle that he thinks josh was the 4th vote to evict Amy..so he is definitely on to Josh The vote is either going to be tied or 5-3..with Josh going There is no way Josh can get 5 votes to evict Tonya it isn't possible..thank god lol So as long as Danielle doens't screw with her veto power..then Josh is out this week |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:56 pm     All he would need to do is convince Lisa to evict Tonya (if Dani and Jason vote out Tonya). The good thing is that Lisa is suspicious of the guys (she overheard Roddy and Eric plotting when she was HOH). I HOPE Jason votes Josh but with Danielle buzzing in his ear I am not sure about that at all. I do think he was trying to get into strategy discussions with Marcellas today as he was hanging around the HOH room quite a bit. I hope he tells Marcellas his suspicions about Josh's vote against Amy. |
Aloha1961 | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:00 pm     i honestly think the only reason chiara and lisa will evict josh is because they want more girls in the house so they have a better chance in their minds... |
Hardywins | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:08 pm     Where is it written on the Wall that Lisa and Chiara are voting to evict Josh? Until proven otherwise; they are still in the alliance (irregardless of what they say to mis-lead Marcus). That is 4 solid votes that can keep Josh in. If Dani has made a pack with the devil (Josh); then she thinks she can controll the alliance by Joining them, save Josh, and then use the Alliance to win the game. Dani was hoping to also get Gerry evicted this week by getting Marcus to replace Tonya with Gerry. She has come to realize that it is unreasonable to expect Marcus to betray Gerry (probably convinced by Roddy); so she has given up on trying to accomplish so much this week. Dani, by joining the alliance, saves Josh; and (she thinks) gains tremendous power for herself. Dani is leaving her loose association with Marcus in order to be the devil's queen! |
Jan | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:15 pm     I think Lisa and Chiara have said that they will save Tonyhaven't they?. They are an alliance within the alliance ..for girl power. They have always said they would stick together over the guys, since the beginning. Roddy tried to turn Chia around but no deal. Eric thinks he has turned Lisa but I don't think it will happen, . |
Cyn | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:18 pm     jan, me too, with what you just said. especially since the other night i caught lisa and eric laughing at chiarra cuz she's taking her and rodster's relationship serious. |
Cameltoes | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:19 pm     If the vote is 6-2 for instance Marcellas will know how Danielle voted. She would be burning that bridge for good. She better make damn sure she wins HOh if she does that. If Amy were to win HOH I wouldn't be surprised to see a Chiara/Danielle nomination if things went down like that. |
Jan | Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 03:22 pm     Roddy and Eric are guaranteed to evict Tonya so a 6-2 vote means Dani kept her alliance and voted to evict Josh, doesn't it? If the vote is 5-3 then either Jason or Dani voted to evict Tonya, Marc won't know which. If the vote is a tie, then he knows Dani voted to save Josh and not to be allied with Marc. |