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Peachie

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
So Chiara was just telling Tonya the story Lisa told Danielle? Chiara made up the code thing?

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Damn it! I must have missed the good stuff because when I started listening to the convo Lisa was the one who was talking.

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lisa was sitting looking dumbfounded in what I saw.

Kador

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, technically the World Trade Towers were owned by the Port Authority, and LARRY Silverstein bought a 99 year lease.

__Tera

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It was definetly Chiara telling Lisa (who was totally lost) and Tonya.

Serena

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
okay, it's the son of Larry Silverstein of Silverstein Properties,
Roger Silverstein

sounds like it's this guy:

http://www.newgomemphis.com/newca/appeal/health/073001/a30food.htm

chiara mentioned he has two kids, before the show she went to laguna at the four seasons to play "mommy"

but he's dating someone already, etc.etc.

mentioned his money several times so it's obviously important to her

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ok, don't mind me. For some reason I keep getting Chiara and Lisa mixed up.

I just looked at Chiara talking to Josh.

It ws Chiara who told Danielle the story about travelling to CA.

Sorry x 3.

Mrose4243

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here's an article I found on google re: Roger Silverstein:

Mom fights to cure son's unusual illness

By Ellis Henican
Newsday

NEW YORK - Like most great movements for human betterment, this one started with a mother and a child at home.

Young Robby Silverstein, who turns 10 in September, came into the world with a medical condition that alarmed almost no one - no one except his mom. Robby had trouble eating certain foods.

"It was peanut butter, peas, sesame seeds, even eggs," Liana Chen Silverstein recalled. "I was running him to pediatricians, to dermatologists. They told me his vomiting and his eczema and his hives were all perfectly normal.

"The vomiting and the hives, they said, should be treated with Benadryl, and he should just be put to bed. The eczema, they said to treat with hydrocortisone. And they kept telling me to reintroduce the foods that made him sick," she said.

Those are the kinds of things that doctors say when they think a parent is worrying too much. And none of those suggestions did a bit of good for Robby Silverstein. If anything, he was getting worse.

He would eat and his face would blow up like a red balloon. His vomiting was something out of The Exorcist.

"I kept calling and calling the doctors," his mother remembered. "They thought I was neurotic."

The really scary moment came when Robby was 3. His mom was pregnant with her second son, Cory. Robby had eaten a sugar cookie, which should have been safe - but who knows what ingredients get mixed together in the backroom of a local bakery?

"His face swelled to an almost unrecognizable state," his mother said. "His lips, too. His eyes rolled back. His tongue was bigger than anything I had ever seen. I gave him a bath. I gave him the Benadryl. I called the pediatrician. He was very cavalier to me. He said, `OK, if you insist, bring him to the hospital.' "

Frantically, she grabbed the boy, rushed out the door and hailed a cab to the hospital. "Robby was losing consciousness," she said. "I remember the driver wouldn't go through the orange lights. I kept talking to Robby. I thought he was dead. He wouldn't respond. I was shouting to the driver, `We've got to get to the hospital!' "

Working frantically, doctors managed to revive the boy. Eventually, they stabilized him. And when the nonchalant pediatrician finally appeared, he wasn't so nonchalant anymore.

"His face was gray," Robby's mother said. "I remember I said to him, `Now do you believe me?' I think he was worried about litigation. He said, `He'll be all right.' "

But suing wasn't what Liana Silverstein had in mind. Getting answers was.

After a brief visit to a family support group, she knew that wasn't for her. "All the women were bawling," she said. "I figured, `You know what? Forget this. I have a kid who has a disability. I'm gonna find the best doctor in the world. By the grace of God, I married into a family that has money and knows people. Let's see what can be achieved.' "

The Silversteins are not unsophisticated people - or New Yorkers of modest means.

They live on the Upper East Side. Robby's father, Roger Silverstein, is vice president of Silverstein Properties, the giant commercial real-estate firm. Roger's father, Larry Silverstein, is president. One recent Silverstein deal? A 99-year, $3.2 billion lease on the World Trade Center.

So, off Robby went to the National Jewish Hospital in Denver, a renowned center for immune disorders. Finally, he was in decent medical hands. His mom, meanwhile, was poring over medical journals. She was interviewing researchers. She was calling members of hospital boards. She was learning about this disease.

She discovered that the federal government doesn't track food-allergy deaths. She learned that a typical medical school curriculum includes just one hour of allergy training.

And in this city of a thousand charities, she found, few people seemed focused to the condition that so threatened her own son's life. One exception was the Jaffe family, owners of Dress Barn. Several of Elliott Jaffe's grandchildren live with life-threatening food allergies.

Together, they launched a new charity, the Food Allergy Initiative.

A cure would be the ultimate goal, of course. But much had to be achieved first. So a board was assembled, an agenda drawn up and a fund-raising campaign launched.

Still tiny compared with some "big diseases" charities, the Food Allergy Initiative is in its third year now. So far, $7 million has been raised. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is on the board, along with many other business-and-society names.

The group has set up its own think tank, offering seed money to promising researchers. They've reached out to schools, day care centers, restaurants and camps, teaching workers about proper food preparation. Special effort is focusing on the airlines. Can't they serve some snack besides peanuts, a common "danger food?"

"Our goal is to have a cure by 2010," she said. "But at the rate we're going in our fund-raising, it will hopefully be sooner.

"Millions and millions of people suffer from this. People are starting to believe it's real. Your child could die at any second."

As for Robby, he's doing well. He's going into fourth grade in the fall. He plays sports. This summer, he's been off at camp in Massachusetts.

"He lives a normal life, although he is quite conscious of what he has," his mother said. "As he gets older, I think it gets harder.

"His brother and his friends are protective. Sometimes, other parents are afraid to have him over to their homes, understandably. Most play dates are at our home.

"But it's inevitable, as he gets older, he'll take more responsibility for his life. He's going to be a teenager a few years from now. By the time he's an adult, we're hoping, we'll already have a cure."

All articles posted here need to have a link with them so that we can verify this information. Otherwise it will have to be removed.

007

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Fascinating uttering fascinating. I know I already said that, but that's all I'm capable of at this point.

Emjaycue

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't think either Tonya, Lisa, or the producers could follow her... i had a keyboard to keep track of each letter and it was hard enough to follow...

Kaili

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, that clarified that question for me. From Chiara...a little less surprising than from Lisa. Although I don't see Lisa as a girl scout, I think she's a little more self-respecting than Chiara is.

Halfunit

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't forget - the first name of the guy was ROGER... perhaps a grandson or nephew?

Ed - Mrose - you put me to shame!!! Great scoop!!!
I am never amazed at the investigation capabilities of this group !!!!!!

Justin42

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep, Chiara ran that whole conversation... Tonya was pretty lost, as well. Apparently, the only people who understood it were the Internet folk. (Hey, Chiara, you may think we're all 300 pound women but we spread information about your codetalking pretty fast! ;)

Kaili

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Something's going to be on Hard Copy or Extra or one of those shows soon...

Sunshinemiss

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What fun to be in on some intrigue and not the FOTH for a change.

Seems the last name being right could be a family connection? A son or brother? Or maybe Chiara, not being the sharpest tool in the shed, just WAS snowed by a fast talker. He would have to have some money though to live the lifestyle she says she witnessed.

Catchy code, though- I think I will file that away in my "could be useful someday" file.

Hmmm...

Angelbleu

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
here is a picture of Mr & Mrs. LARRY Silverstein http://www.wtc-childrensmural.org/info/news.htm

Zeyna

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
guys read the story mrose posted above

Halfunit

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
PS - ok, how did Chiara know Roger had TWO sons... I am giving credence to her story for the moment....

Angelbleu

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roger is the son

Another father, real estate megastar Larry Silverstein, who owned the World Trade Center, presented a Builder of Israel Award to his son, Roger, senior vice president of Silverstein Properties.

Larry recalled a solidarity mission when Yitzchak Shamir took Roger aside and told him, “We need housing here, now. Tell your father.”

“I can say no to the prime minister,” Larry said, “but I can’t say no to my son.”

http://www.thejewishweek.com/news/newscontent.php3?artid=6249

Ryanc2002

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
News, TV, Internet, who knows Halfunit. They've only been in the house a week. She could have gotten on the internet last month.

Emjaycue

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:29 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
CBS'd better HOPE it's true... because truth is a defense to libel & slander... and if the Silverstein's get wind of this... Oh my heck!

--M

Cameltoes

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yep.. sounds legit to me.

Foh4ever

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hmmm... am i the only one kinda gleefully hoping the sh*t not only hits the fan, but buries the table? .... *shakes head* BB has destroyed my morals, hasn't it?

::: waiting with baited breath for the God-like BB voice...
"Chiara, please come to the Diary Room."

Bbwatcher

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
These are real people she's talking about - whether she's read about them and is making up her connection or if it is true - either way, she just screwed up big time. There is no way that this isn't going to blow up for her and maybe for CBS. These are seriously monied and connected people that she's talking about. Whew!!

Emjaycue

Sunday, July 14, 2002 - 04:33 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I wonder if the CBS people have even figured it out yet? Do they even surf the internet?