Shifting alliances
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Oregonfire

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:13 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
After watching Marc and Roddy talking in the HOH room, I think there's a real possibility for shifting alliances here. Marc and Roddy are the two smartest players in the game--they are so people savvy. I think there is room for Eric to get bumped from the Core Four, maybe not next week, or the week after, but soon, and for Marc to take his place.

I don't subscribe to the view that there are just two groups; there are many shifting groups and subgroups, and nothing is set in stone.

Anyway, what do you think?

Kissysmom

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:15 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ya know..

I have to say that I have NO CLUE what these people will do. I have never seen a group of people with such a lack of morals and values.

Nothing will surprise me.

Hardywins

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Marc is feeling out Roddy for Seduction and Roddy is backpeddaling and denying his alliance against Marc.

Zeyna

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Well I agree, and I hope that alliances do shift. I would not want to see Gerry, Danielle, Jason, Mar & Amy at the end - just because I don't think that would be as exciting as some other scenarios.

Bastable

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:21 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It's a game! How do morals figure into it? Dr. Will taught me that. He always spared people's feelings, but never spared sharp strategy. People say and do whatever they have to in order to win... in years past (or on Survivor, where the queen of suspicious "morals" just won), everyone seemed to come out of the house with the understanding that nothing's personal.

Minnyace01

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with you Oregon - there is a good chance that M will join the core 4. Who do you think will be the 4th with R, C, and M, because I think that if Jo goes this week, and E goes sometime soon after that, will L replace him as the 4th? C told R that she did not trust Li.

Oregonfire

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hmmm, I don't know. Marc said in the HOH that he *would* sacrifice Amy for the sake of the game if he had to--not sure about that though. Maybe Danielle if she plays her cards right. Then again, there could be a total upset. And Chiara sems to really like Lisa.

Marysafan

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think as the balance of power shifts so will the alliances. One of the 6 packers will go this week... and then it will be all even again.

The other thing to watch is the gender deal. It is going to be interesting to see if they dep things balanced.

Head of Household means so much. I bet those that have been "opting out" will change their tune REAL soon.

Iceprincess

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Things are changing so fast I can't figure out who is where. I can't even tell who is lying or telling the truth, so I am confused.

Luvscoutii

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know it's kind of funny because people (posters/watchers and even the hgs) talk about morality, integrity, goodness, etc like in that situation it should be a prevailing point of being there. Yet, it's a game where you have to be deceitful and chameleon-like to get to the end. And that is the point of being there to *win* money. I don't buy nor do I think that hgs should be there if they think it's supposed to camp friendly-friendly with morality reigning. I believe in last nights show they showed a clip of Gerry saying something to the effect of him wanting to be there because of the "social experiment" aspect. It's very similiar to BB2 in that there is the group that wants to play the game(whatever that entails) and the other group that thinks it should be like camp and everyone should be nice.

Another thought and question... Marcellus has made comments about Josh being a cheater. How do you cheat there? Let alone, during the food competition, did he cheat by grabbing rocks and holding onto them during the second weigh-in??? I just get disgusted with the hypocrasy in trying to act like the whole thing is not a game and they are all there to meet new friends and experience the isolation.

Maris

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
he cheated by putting food in his pocket. LOL.

Of course there is fun in watching them lie to each other and setting up five or six alliances at a time but the individual behavior of some of the HGs is pretty low class and trashy which I can do without. Some of them should think about who they have to face when they leave.

Cameltoes

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:58 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Someone said Josh put something down his pants. They wouldn't have disqualified him if he didn't do some sort of cheating.

Iceprincess

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They could not disqualify him because it was NOT stated in the rules that if you cheat you would have to eat PB&J.

Cameltoes

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 03:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They didn't count his weight though. So, in essence he was disqualifed as a contestant. There was no punishment that is true.

C1mag

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy and Marcellus an alliance? Ok i'm laughing at that bigtime. It's never gonna happen. Have you been watching the same game I have? Roddy THINKS he can convince Marcellus he would flip flop, but Roddy would NEVER do that! and Marcellus knows this. The only advantage that Roddy has created with Marcellus is the belief that if marcellus gets rid of all of Roddys pals then Roddy will not have any sidekicks, but thats about it. Marci realizes this is a game and marcellus said last night to danielle... " Roddy is the one to beat in this game" That says it all. There will never be a comitted alliance beteween these two. I'm still going to say that once this is over that many of Roddys "pals" will be disgusted by his game plan. Its all about mirroring the other and pulling out their weaknesses and then using that information to expose thier vulnerable side. Roddy said last night to Chiara that the one person that scares him is Danielle because she will not talk about the game with him. For those of you paying attention watch very closely when Roddy pulls a one on one conversation with someone. The man is in his game mode when he does this because every time someone walks up he is up and out of there. He becomes the person he is talking too and through humor he gets info out of them as to how they would respond to certain situations within the game. It amazes me how they don't see it. Like I said, it's creepy as hell.

Funny thing is that you could literally use Roddy. Let him think you are playing his game and then nail him in the end. Right now he would help you peck off his strongest buddys without him even knowing it. lets face it... Right now Roddy knows that one of his 6 has to go so his goal is to eliminate the most expendable in his group. Therefore, at this point he is working for you and doesn't realize it. When Roddy is working to protect one of his strongest buddys, that is the person he will not mention as a possible nomination. If you are suggesting nominating one of the people he considers to be a strength for him he will suggest that you nominate someone like Jason when you know he would vote out Jason over that person. If Roddy does that then you have picked the right person to nominate because you have taken one of Roddys strengths away. You gotta really keep your game cap on with this guy. Did that make sense? LOL

Sheilaree

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 03:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope they pick Josh and Tonya. Get rid of the sick people in the house. The house will be alot calmer. When they are gone