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Missy2

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 04:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara is looking desperate and Roddy is just trying appease her. Ugh. I'm embarassed for Chiara. All I can think is why would you attempt to start a relationship in a game like this? Chiara puts too much of her heart and past into it. She has no game for BB, her biggest concern is what Roddy is doing, she needs to get evicted. She is stressing me out!

Oregonfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 04:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hopefully she will recover her game and fast. It takes two to tango, and up until yesterday it was still Roddy and Chi Chi all the way. He changed his tune pretty fast. I hope the girl alliance gains power and evicts his sorry butt.

Kmjm

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
This really pi**es me off! Roddy really hit hard on Chiara in the first couple of weeks of the game. Amy DID set out to 'steal' him from her- it was not just innocent conversation or flirtation. Chia is responding to a real situation, and now she is being made to feel like she is to blame. I don't see her as clingy, I see her as allowing herself to get really emotionally involved when she should have kept her distance. She is all the more vulnerable to this because she is self-centred and insecure. When I was younger, I remember guys doing this all the time- coming on aggressively to you, then if you respond, backing off and telling you they 'need space' and that it was all in your mind. It's crazy-making. I really feel for Chiara- she's in a no-win situation.

Minnyace01

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregonfire and kmjm - being a male, I can see where R is coming from. He didn't do anything wrong. He is true to C. In his mind, why is she pissed at me for not doing anything? All she has to do is to tell him why she feels the way she does and tell him about the Silverstein fling. Then he will understand and everything will be fine, if it isn't already.

Battlestar

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--what pisses me off is that any woman with any brains in her head (Chiapet ain't stupid) let her hormones take control of her game. This is not the Dating Game honey---it's Big Brother and NOBODY is your friend.

That she didn't take Roddy talk for typical pick-up lines and took them as a love connection is her biggest mistake. Roddy may be a scoundrel, but nobody made Chiapet a pasty except herself

Crossfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
In concise terms exactly what is it that Roddy has done that makes him so evil?

I've seen plenty of complaints, and a few snippets of conversation, but I am not feeling the outrage yet. Is he being vilified because he liked C, but now is reconsidering? Did I miss a marriage along the way?

Help me, I like moral indignation as much as the next person, but can't seem to build up a head of steam yet.

Minnyace01

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire - and, he has not backed off of her yet. He told L last night that he liked C, she is F##in awesome." What else does the guy have to do?

Battlestar

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy hasn't really done anything wrong, Chiapet is the one that has interpreted everything as bonded for life.

Oregonfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, if you don't feel it, Crossfire, nobody can make you, even with the best argument in the most concise terms.

My problem with the situation, and I've said it a few times, is that R pressed C for an explanation of her cool behavior, she gave him one, namely the flirting with Amy, and he tried to play it off as stratagy and as being all in her head, when he knew it wasn't. Now he's going around saying he's "not allowed to flirt" and exaggerating the situation for his own selfish gain.

That's enough for me. It doesn't have to be enough for someone else.

Abigail1970

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Crossfire - I'm with you.. I haven't seen or read about Roddy doing anything more than flirt and have fun with Chia and Amy. How Chia can assume they are in a 'relationship' after about two weeks is beyond me (not that it can't happen) but I just got the impression there was just a lot of flirting going on. And she is looking pathetic right about now. Jealousy is not becoming.

Kmjm

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy set out in a deliberate and calculated way to bond with Chiara. It's a dangerous game, playing with people's emotions. If he got more than he bargained for, it's his fault, not hers. He should take responsibility for his own strategic errors, not diss her to Lisa and Eric behind her back.

If it's true that she was 'discovered' in a shopping mall for BB3, then are we surprised that she really isn't into playing the game?

Crossfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Dear Oregonfire,

Please be aware that I do not have the feeds, so I am relying quite a bit on what I read here to guide me in my feelings about what is going on, and how the players are handling themselves.

I accept any failing to be my own, but STILL, what you describe does not sound like it is outside predictable boundaries of fair game play.

Thank you for trying though.

Love Crossfire.

Oregonfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kmjm, thank you!

Battlestar

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
--so Roddy is to blame cause Chiapet fell for his lines??? Good Grief--if she hasn't heard his lines before now, they she isn't the experienced woman she claims to be.

Chiapet is a Non-Virgin Brittany

Oregonfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:37 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Don't worry, Crossfire, I'm not mad at you--I'm just not happy with the situation. (I know I need a life big time)

Crossfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:38 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Life is overrated. I hate to feel like I am missing out on a good rant, that is all. :)

Earthmother

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Is he a jerk? YES Is she a grown woman, not some 16 year old who falls madly in love with some guy she just meets? Why aren't her so called friends telling her "WHOA GIRL, you really don't know this guy and guess what you really don't know us, we could be helping him work your last nerve because it makes you look bad and not us." This is a classic case of the Peter Pan Syndrome only everyone wants to be Peter (I won't grow up) Pan. I can't believe everyone is so upset about a soap opera love affair. The best part of this is that they will soon end up trying to evict each other, then they'll watch the tapes and find out how really stupid they all are.

Battlestar

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
---that true!! Good ingredients for some Drama! We don't want to be bored now do we??

Kmjm

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 07:56 am EditMoveDeleteIP
You're welcome, Oregonfire!

I'm basing my opinion on what I have seen on the live feeds from the first day they went on. Chiara is a young woman of limited life experience, maturity and intelligence. (I was convinced of that when she painstakingly explained her snapping code to Lisa and Tonya live on the internet.) She's a very young 25. I don't admire that, but it's not her fault. Her stupid sex conversations, I believe, in her mind show how experienced and sophisticated she is, being from Manhatten and all. I get tired of her being vilified here as some sort of scarlet woman-she has even admitted that she really hasn't had a lot of sexual partners, and in college her girlfriends joked that she had a 30 day period- her excuse for avoiding sex. She's not going to do well when she comes out of the house and sees herself through others' eyes.

Roddy, on the other hand, is a grown-up of well above average intelligence. It's clear that he picked her to bond with because he felt that he could control her. This was very arrogant on his part, and he'll pay for it.

Crossfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 08:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP

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It's clear that he picked her to bond with because he felt that he could control her.


I am not sure I would blame Roddy because someone else came into the house unarmed and he noticed.



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This was very arrogant on his part, and he'll pay for it.


This remains to be seen. At this point, I am getting the general feeling that C is also not looking too hot at the moment.

Poser

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 08:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
"nobody made Chiapet a pasty except herself "

Not *there's* a classic Freudian slip!

Foodbunny

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 08:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like to see who approached who first. Chiara's "I need male attention immediately!" attitude leads me to believe that she latched on to Roddy when he was being friendly with all the ladies. She strikes me as the sort of girl in high school who couldn't be single because if she didn't have a guy saying he liked her she felt completely without self-worth. Most everyone else seems to feel that Roddy waited to see who was most vulnerable and chose Chiara to persue.

Since we didn't have the feeds until several days after they went inside the house chances are that we will never know who made the first move. So I think demonizing either one of them for the beginning of their dumb relationship is pretty unfounded.

Bigbrotherbelle

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy is playing the game, it is not his fault if she was picked up in a mall, and therefore is more interested in finding a husband than playing the game. Sure, it sucks that she has such a low self esteem, but I do not feel sorry for her because she uses insults and a facade of over confidence in order to hide the lack of self esteem. I keep remembering the words "I am more mature than Amy, I am smarter than Amy, I have better friends than Amy..." Well, nanna nanna boo boo to you too Chia.

Sure he said yesterday that Chia was fing awesome. That does make him want to marry her, or even commit to her. He also said Amy was hot yesterday.

Oregonfire

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 09:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
What is WITH at the anti-Chiara sentiment? It's practically making my stomach churn it's so negative. Let's just run her out of town on a rail, shall we? Isn't it enough that she's going to pay for her naivete with an eviction and then have to watch Roddy and Amy flirt the rest of the show, while Amy calls her a two-penny ** on the live feeds and gloats? Just how much is enough punishment for the girl?

Minnietlm63

Monday, July 22, 2002 - 09:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Didn't Chi tell Amy that she came to the house to find a husband? I thought that's what Amy said she told her. So that's why she doesn't have playing the game on her mind.

I think Chi is unbalanced and needs to learn to live by herself for a while and not be so strung out on a man. She seems to go from man to man. She came in talking about this other man and now she's trying to hook up with Roddy. Amy is right, she is too needy!