If Gerry said what they're saying he said...
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If Gerry said what they're saying he said...
Dovedzwiek | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:06 pm     Gerry spoke for himself not including the others on what he was saying. He didn't say "we", "us" etc. He said "I" felt..."I"think...."I" did it because....the fact that they THOUGHT he was talking about them and started defending themselves about not being racist etc was their own undoing and as far as I can see..Marcellus/Lori and Danielle see that and have noted it. |
C1mag | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:43 pm     You gotta remember that the inies are going to spin this thing too support them. Its all mental and they will use anything and spin it too justify why they would be angry that the old man changed their game plan. This would include spinning Gerrys comments to appear as something they are not. I am sure once we hear him we will all be laughing at the suggestion that he indicated that they are rascist. I've heard comments by Marcellus and Dan that clearly indicate that what Gerry said was FAR from rascist, but when you are out to Dog someone it only takes one person to spin it a different way. |
Whit4you | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:32 pm     On Gerry's behalf let me say... unless you were watching it live as I was you don't quite understand the sincerity he felt ..right or wrong.. that he felt when he said it. Yes it may be offbased to feel he could make an impact on a Realtiy game show ok? BUT look as someone just under 40.. I was not THERE and felt the personal impact of the MLK speech...ok? BUT you just need to realize he was there - we don't know what was going on in his life or what impact it had on him at the time but I totally feel like there is nothing wrong with him after hearing that speach and witnessing first hand the impact of it .. that he might spend his life wanting to make that sort of difference himself. Personally while I think his timing and intent (a Reality game show) is offbase - I felt he was being truely sincere. He knows he has an internet audience and perhaps his speech might have been told on TV etc.. maybe he truely felt he could say something that might make a difference and personally I don't think there's anything wrong with having the hope of being able to make a difference. All I can say is I saw his emotion and intensity this morn and it was geniune, regardless of how it came across later (ie making the others feel he was implying they were racist) |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, July 15, 2002 - 11:39 pm     Thanks for posting that Whit---having him be that intense and having it be genuine helps me with Gerry a lot. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:02 am     Curlyq, I agree with you 100%! I think we’re ALL a lot more racist/homophobic whatever than we would like to admit. Of course this board is not about me, but just as an example, I’m white and have only had one white boyfriend, the rest have been black. That has usually been my personal preference. But when I see an interracial couple, just for a fraction of a second, my immediate reaction is a negative “they are doing something wrong” one. Now that makes no since, but it’s true. The point of all that is, I think that just goes to show how deeply ingrained racism is in this society. This pretty much sums up my views…. http://www.horizonmag.com/4/jane-elliott.asp So Smileeys, just imo, I don’t think that just because someone marries or dates someone of the opposite “race” that that means they aren’t prejudice. That just means they fell in love with someone who was of the opposite race. Anyway, as someone of their generation, the whole argument that Generation X is color-blind is total BS. If Gerry really felt that he wanted to nominate Marcellus because he was black and gay then he should have apologized for that. It might have been smarter to do it on an one-to-one level rather than making a “thing” about it at the meenting though. But I’ve never understood the logic behind WHY people use personal reasons as an excuse for why they nominate someone. If I were HOH, I’d say something like, “I’m nominating you because I feel that the two of you are the strongest threat to my winning the game.” Doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, at least it SOUNDS good. It sounds like you're giving the person a compliment, as opposed to "I'm nominating you because I don't like you" which is how it usually sounds. Besides, if Lisa REALLY wanted to nominate someone who was safe from being voted out, why not put up Eric, Roddy or Chiarra. Of course WE know why, I just hope the other HG’s can see through her lie. |
Ruditoo | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 12:41 am     Well, Sounds like they quit being dull...hmmmm |
Kearie | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:13 am     Clio-- I wouldn't say I prefer dating black guys, but I have and the thing is, I don't see myself as in an interacial relationship. If I am in public with this person, I don't notice stares or comments. I am simply with a man. I honestly don't believe I see the color. In other couples, in interacial relationships, I simply see ugly or good looking people; fat or thin people. I'm prejudice tho, but I don't believe I have issues with race. I have problems with obese people and ignorant people. I think many people are less prejudice based on race than they have been in the past. I wouldn't say I'm "color-blind"...I notice obvious difference such as skin color. I'm so NOT attracted to very pale blondes. Get some color guys...and dye the hair. |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:24 am     Well, I've always been of the opinion that IF I were black, and a friend of mine said to me, "when I look at you I don't see a color, I see a person," I would be offended. If I were black, there's obviously nothing wrong with that, so there should be no reason not to recognize it. When I look at my boyfriend I see a beautiful BLACK man, and I'm proud of that. I've never been crazy about the notion of being "color blind" because being of-color is not something we should be ashamed of, that's the way God made us. I think the link I gave above addresses that. But I agree, it's not just limited to a black/white thing. I'm seeing a LOT of prejudices against Mexicans these days as this is the first time people in this part of the country have had to deal with migrants and aliens. People talk about "can't go to Wal-Mart for all the Mexicans!" and I'm like, "they've got a right to go there too just as much as us Hillbillies!" |
Kearie | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:30 am     I don't wanna go ta the Wal-mart ya go ta if'n yer a hillbilly. Them thar backwoods sorts kinda scare me.  |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:33 am     LOL! This is Tennessee, we're ALL hillbillies! |
Kearie | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:37 am     Woohoo!!!! I'm safe from the hillbillies. (wiggle wiggle happy dance) You ain't plannin on movin to the pacific northwest are ya? hehehe |
Cliotheleo | Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 01:58 am     uh.. no ;-) |
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