How about a kinder ...friendlier...fun..Big Brother
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Hunter

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
OK...We have a house full of basically...unhappy people. It has been a week of
backstabbing...insulting....disrespecting women and bitching. .To a great extent many
of the fans who have been so loyal and enamored by the show
are..disappointed...confused or just pissed off..

I really like this show and want to see it succeed. I like the premise (as I see it) of
putting complete strangers in a fish bowl, challenging them to use their
intelligence,charm or savy to win the friendship...affection. and trust of the other HG so they want to keep them in the house.

I would like to see a little romance in the house. Maybe it would help if one of them
would let someone know that they think they are special. Take them away from the
crowd...maybe a picnic on a blanket away from the house....find out about them as a
person...what they like....what they hate...what are their aspirations...what turns them
on....tell them why they think they are special.

I only see these people talking about....themselves. I have never seen them talking about... what is going on the world and how it effects them....social
issues...relationships...Mars ~ Venus. I am sure that several of these people are
intelligent...opinionate.....sensitive...loving. Let’s see it..

Weren’t the humorous and romantic moments? The ones we all loved and remembered
from BB2. Where is the romance? Where is the humor.? Where are the humorous
people? I would like to laugh , be touched and smile.

I don’t really think that they are all that shallow. They ( like many other people ) are
afraid to expose that side of their personalities for fear of being seen as weak ..or.. having
that part of them used against them in some way. I guess it is an atmosphere that breeds
paranoia.

This game doesn’t have to be a hate fest. A love fest can still be interesting. Hg
advancing because people love and admire them....not hate or fear them.

Throw in the X factor...JEALOUSY...and you have the makings of a really good show

Its only my humble opinion....Friendly Smile

Bogey

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:38 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The first Big Brother turned into a love fest, notso much in terms of romance, but where they all bonded (against BB). It was deemed too boring, and the producers are doing everything they can to make sure that doesn't happen again by picking crazy people and getting them to do crazy stuff. The first one seemed way less phony. But I have to disagree with you on one point...I think they are that shallow.

Abigail1970

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter - what romance from BB2? Will and Shannon? UGH! That was so gross. Krista and Mike Boogie? Yuck!!! I think they are all just still trying to get to know one another.

Oregonfire

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter, I think your gonna get that X factor in the Amy-Roddy-Chiara situation. I hope none of them get voted out any time soon becuase I want to watch that situation develop.

I'd be *very* curious to see who Roddy would vote out if he had to choose between Amy and Chiara. It could happen.

I'm watching the situation very closely, so will keep you posted!

Costacat

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 01:27 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Hunter, I really do think they are that shallow. And I think that is precisely why BB picked 'em. I know BB was unhappy with how BB1 ended up with "let's all love each other". And I'm sure they did all they could to stir things up in BB2. It's pretty apparent that these 12 people are very self-centered.

I, too, miss the humor! They don't seem to be having any FUN! And all they talk about is either themselves, gross stuff, sex, or themselves.

I am very disappointed in this year's BB. I don't know about those in the 15-30 age bracket, but I'm finding absolutely nothing much likeable about these folks (well, Marcellas' sense of humor when he acts like a "queen" is pretty funny). I can't identify with any of these people. And right now, I could pretty much care less who won.

I'd also bet that not a one of 'em would think of doing something useful with their winnings.

BB2's "evil Will" worked because he was evil and he freely admitted he was working 'em. But these people really think they are special. Bleah!

Gentoo

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 01:52 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You know, I take exactly the opposite position. I couldn't care less who is sleeping with who, or who is making "friends to last a lifetime" and all that, well, crap.

This is "Big Brother" named after Orwell's novel... This shouldn't be happy happy fun show. It should be a show about people who are put into a hamster cage, poked, prodded, and toyed with by the producers.

I want to see more twists, more turns, more .. well.. psychological challenge. This is nothing more than a popularity contest. It should be more.

Make big brother into the controlling entity it is meant to be. Have people be penalized for things like not putting their mic on etc, and then punish the group for it. Play with social influence, group dynamics, etc.

The "heaven and hell" thing where the separated the house right down the middle with bars in the UK game was a great idea. There are so many more that could be had if the producers would only expend some effort.

I'd place the whole thing in an industrial complex instead of a house, no windows, no backyard. They'd go batty just to see the sky. Have competitions, not just for HOH and veto, and reward. Have competitions, not just to gain advantage, but to avoid punishment. Both for the group and for individuals.

Picture the loudspeaker sounding off in an onimous voice "The loser of this competition spends one day in solitary confinement". A lot happens in a day. Plotting would be missed out on. Worse (better) yet, people would blurt out just about anything and everything when they got out, dying for a chance to talk to somebody, even those who will use whatever they say against them.

This game could be a fantastic sociological and psychological experiment for us, and challenge for the hamsters.

Cameltoes

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 01:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I used to feel the same way Gentoo but I've given up all hope of that ever happening. CBS surely doesn't have the guts to air such a show. Maybe FOX would. I can't wait for someone to use the same concept on a new Reality series because I know it can be done better.

Lostinthefog

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gentoo, great concepts, but I doubt Arnie or CBS, or the other people involved with BB will ever do anything other than what they are doing right now: taking the easy way out...and making big bucks doing it.

The show is very inexpensive to produce. The house is already built. It is furnished by Ikea for an advertising plug. They use low paid interns for most of the production. The live internet feed money is just extra gravy. The largest expense was probably the nationwide talent search, and obviously, since they already had most of the HGs pre-selected, that was unnecessary.

So everybody does as little as possible, and they kill off 3 months in the dog days of summer. They still get higher ratings than reruns, and everybody at CBS is happy.

The only other alternative would be no Big Brother IV.

Whineandroses

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree with Bogey. BB1 - while the HGs were "nice" the show was quite boring. There weren't any power shifts or secrecy. BB2 and BB3, while not kinder and gentler are much more interesting.