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Lurknomore

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
or whatever intern they have at the controls...finally my Real is running for 10 straight minutes. I finally get to hear Roddy talking (something I keep missing). Funny drunk story and they cut to not one, not two, but FOUR cameras of Lori. I want to beat these people and it's only the second day.

Ryanc2002

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I posted this in the "Damn BB, damn them all to hell!" thread. LOL.

Lurknomore

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL yeah I just saw...we were simultaneously whining. GMWA hehe

Bastable

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:30 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Does anyone have any hard evidence that CBS reads these boards? There's no way to reach CBS itself...but maybe they reach us.

Ryanc2002

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
hehehehe. As I posted in the other thread, I've had a horrible case of the nods today watching the feeds and there was finally something worth listening to.

Lurknomore

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Bastable...I think the more important question is does CBS CARE what any of us think?

I say this seriously. I think Arnie has proven, and has virually said as much, that he only cares about the TV show and wishes the internet viewers would go away. They say this while they reap in our $$$. Problem is they could care less about satisfying us. Personally I feel this is an absurd choice and if I worked for CBS I'd never permit it. All over the world BB's success has stemmed from the web feed successes. Hopefully some day they will wise up and pay us some mind. But I'm gonna avoid holding my breath until then, even though I do like rather good in blue :( hehe

Bastable

Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Lurknomore, I agree, and I'll go a step further:

A person getting rich off of pretty people who happen to be impressionable and insecure.

He cares about T&A, patronizing his audience, and money money money. Because he thinks the universe revolves around television, he forgets the immense word of mouth that live Web feeds provide. In fact, if he really knew what he was doing, he'd make them free again---THAT'S how to make sure you attract more and more people.

The British BB only charged for feeds once it was established as the biggest show in the country. You don't become the biggest show by acting elitist and treating your audience with disrespect and secrecy.

I know what AS thinks of me. I think about the same of him.

Spunky

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 08:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Oh I can't wait till they realize how much people hate their feeds and how many will cancel and how few are really watching on the net. But do they really care? I don't think so. They obviously don't need any money (Real or Shapiro)but they want people to pay for their own frustration. They're playing a sadist game with the people as well not just with BB players...

Lumbele

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 09:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The only reason I watch the show is this board. The 3 shows a week alone would lose my interest really quickly, and I bet I am not alone.
Personally I am not willing to spend the money on live feeds, and the moment the generous ones sharing with the rest of us decide to cancel (an understandable reaction considering all those FDCSs when things start getting interesting) BB will be history for me. Shapiro must be rather full of himself.{wink}

Oregonfire

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
FOTH x 4 at the moment. They rely on FOTH even more this year, too much for my tastes.

Lurknomore

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Spunky I slightly disagree with you. I think Real needs the $$$. They keep trying to get established in the market, keep selling, and keep doing things half aswellyou know.

We don't know their financial terms. CBS might slightly care if they are getting money based on how many people sign up. If they just sold the rights to Real then they won't care at all. Real might care cause this could be a cash cow for them, but I'm not sure they are organized enough to do anything about it.

As for our beloved AS, he only cares about his TV show. Sigh

Ryanc2002

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't understand where you're getting that everyone will cancel. Most everyone who has the feeds are quite happy with them. In fact, I've thought for a long time that the feeds could survive without the TV show, as an online show only, but the TV show could not survive without the internet feeds, because there is too much possibility of editing room manipulation, which is why I'm not nearly as into Survivor as I am Big Brother. I'm not very interested in watching the producer's version of what happ;ens. Also, some of you make too much of the front door cam. They go to FDC for competitions and other similar things and when there is potential for a lawsuit. (mention of family members who haven't given consent, mention of non CBS copyrights/trademarks such as songs.) Point is, as long as there a Big Brother television show on CBS there is going to be FDC, and you can't blame Arnold for that, they did it in Season 1 also, when Arnold wasn't part of BB. If you want the bare minimum of FDC, petition CBS to make BB3 online only. The only time you'd see FDC is when there was potential for lawsuits, and/or in a catostrophic situation such as the knife weilding maniac from BB2.

Lurknomore

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:22 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryan, perhaps you aren't aware, but it seems a majority of us (most with cutting edge systems loaded with resources) are having MAJOR RealPlayer problems with it locking, crashing, and sometimes locking our system in short order. That, coupled with HG actions that so far has mostly provoked groups YAWNS is making some folks ready to cancel.

I'm trying to be optomistic and hope the action picks up, but Real is starting to act more like a virus than a program...and certainly hasn't been providing the stability of something anyone should be paying for.

Keiffer

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Last night I had better performance from Real than I had had before, but it still sin't perfect. As for the yawns being produced from the HG's I have a couple of thoughts.

They are still feeling each other out, and this has a long way to go. Second and most important is the choices being made to show what on each of the four feeds. There are 12 HG's right now, and most of the time feeds 1&2 are showing the same thing from different spots, and feeds 3&4 are showing the same thing from different spots. Do we need 2 feeds to show M and A playing cards, while two feeds are on four guys lifting weights? There are six other people they could be showing on two of the feeds. Just an example from yesterday.

Maybe if they utilized all four feeds to truly show us four different things paticularly while there are 12 people there it might help us enjoy ourselves more.

Ryanc2002

Friday, July 12, 2002 - 10:31 am EditMoveDeleteIP
See, that's odd. I haven't had any problems other than the yawn factor, are you guys who are having the problems using the free realone player? I'm using the full player. Could that be the difference?