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Earthmother

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 09:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally I think the whole thing is hysterical. Chiara reminds me of one of those girls who tormented girls like Amy when they were young. Amy has admitted that she was not very attractive when she was a kid and she is a cutie now and knows it, maybe she likes to give back a little of what she got. I think she's bored and this "stir it up game" keeps her busy.. It's funny how girls like Chira think guys like gutter talk and honesty about past affairs or how they like their sex, when the truth is most adult men really want the girl who is less touched, if you know what I mean. We talk about generation gaps but most of the old virtues are still expected today from the girl you take home to meet your mom. There is no relationship here to be destroyed as far as I'm concerned Chiapet is just embarrassed she will be dissed on national tv.

Seamonkey

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 10:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Chiara's done such a good job of dissing herself, at least on the internet.. remember she was all over Jason and has way too much contact with Josh
(I hope she washes her hands) and turns almost any convo into innuendo and vulgarity. She needs not one bit of help with the dissing business. Oh yeah and she's smeared herself and past relationship all over too.


As for Danielle, you bet your sweet A$$ she'd trying to encourage a confrontation!! And she's been telling tales back and forth all along. She's being a snake (self-described that way).

Off topic a bit, or not -- what Reality TV romances have actually worked??

Pam and Judd from RW San Francisco, but they didn't get together until after the season when they were both involved in the Pedro Zamora foundation. They seem to be solidly married. Not to mention that they are actual adults with actual careers (doctor and illustrator/cartoonist).

Sean and Rachel clicked on a RW/RR challenge and are married with two kids.

Tara and Chris or Alex from TAR2, but that seems more like spite (I cold be wrong).

There have to be others??

Anyway I don't think Chiara and Roddy are likely to make that list. TWT.

Tabbyking

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 11:44 am EditMoveDeleteIP
oregon, i was kind of surprised by your post about the chi-rod thing seeming 'natural'--then you point out several things that aren't natural at all! the games, the acting like a 'dawg', flirting with amy, having his cake and eating it, too...not to mention chiara's talk of her guy outside the show waiting to take it to the next level. to me 'natural' would not have so many problems and obsessions associated with it.
to me, both seem like they are just used to having attention from the opposite sex. they seem to demand it. it's almost as if once they 'get' someone, they are done with them. it's the whole 'dance of the chase' that is the attraction for them. once they have what they chased after, the fun is over.

Foodbunny

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 11:54 am EditMoveDeleteIP
My take on the situation is that Roddy came into the game figuring he'd be friendly to everyone and maybe a little extra friendly to the women to try to keep a women's alliance from forming. He doesn't want to play mean and nasty just yet because the people who come in mean and nasty are the first targets. However, Chiara is ruining this plan. She NEEDS male attention because Lisa is getting male attention and she'll feel like less of a woman if she can't get a man in the house too.

Jason is not interested in giving her the attention she wants. Josh is a disgusting little troll of a man. Gerry is too old and Eric got snapped up by Lisa. That leaves Roddy who she has nothing in common with.

So Roddy has the choice between giving Chiara what she wants and trying to retain a friendly relationship with the other ladies in the house, or he can tell her to piss off which will make him look horrible to all the other women because Chiara will be non-stop trash talking him. Not a great situation, he's going to come off cruel either way. But no, I don't honestly believe that Roddy is really attracted to Chiara and I don't believe that Chiara is attracted to Roddy other than the whole "He has a penis and can validate my existance" thing.

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:09 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree Foodbunny.. I saw the live feeds last night and the whole "Chiara/Roddy" convo.. you could tell that she is very insecure..especially the way she spoke about Amy to the "girls" was catty and you could tell she was jealous of Amy.. what is she afraid of? Gasp..that Roddy would prefer Amy over her.. The look on Roddy's face at times last night was priceless..like he wanted to tell her "Chiara..we've known each other for 2 weeks..I don't need to justify my actions to you". Also..Chiara was more concerned about the audiences "perception" of the situation than how Roddy actually felt about her.. that to me says it all..Roddy should have said "I have to live in this house and that means I have to get along with everyone.. you need to suck up and deal"

Nimue

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I was watching the feeds a while back and Roddy and Eric were just having a whispered discussion over the chessboard. Roddy said some things that really made me feel IMHO that he is playing Chiara. I can't remember exactly what he said, but my impression at the time was that it seemed pretty unkind.
I don't really like Chiara very much, but I do think that she seems more into him that he is into her, especially after watching Roddy and Eric talking.
Then my feeds froze up and I had to reboot and missed the rest of their conversation.

Earthmother

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
and how bright is any women who thinks she is not being played after two weeks in a house where the object of the game is to lie, cheat and do whatever you have to legally to win $500,000?
"KIKI, SPELL D I L L U S I O N A L..."

Tracy

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 12:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Seamonkey, you left out Holly and Chadwick and
Emily and James tho all were from different shows. Sorry OT.

On topic - so far I haven't seen anything that would make me think either Chiapet or King Rod have a sincere bone in either of their oh-so-better than everyone else's bodies.

Madelane

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:01 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
You were joking with the spelling of delusional, right?

Earthmother

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:22 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yes I was...I was so worried someone would take that one and run with it...lol

Peachie

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:31 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just saw roddy naked, where is delilah and zachsmom LOL

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am always a day late and a dollar short..:(

Peachie

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Was just a flash zachs but I did see him, ummm not too shabby. LOL

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:35 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I just turned on the feeds and he commented that "the whole internet saw me naked" or something along those lines..lol..then dani says "oh they block that out"..too funny..

Peachie

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:36 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
they just dont have a clue do they

Zachsmom

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
no..they don't.. If I could watch anything..it would be to see their faces as they watch what we have watched!!! THAT would be priceless..

Wcv63

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 01:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It seems others in the house are noting that Roddy's "connection" with Chiara is hurting him in the game because it is hindering his ability to interact with others in the house without Chiara becoming jealous and overwrought. Seems to me that Roddy will come to the same conclusion but the harm may already be irreparable.

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:03 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is this thread active? I just posted to it but nothing.

Bob2112

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:05 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Did somebody just post something? I thought so, but I can't see it.

Wcv63

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Oregon, Bob what are ya'll talking about?

Delilah

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:14 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Peachie I hope you got a screen cap! ::::Gasp:::: My one chance to see the rodster au natural and I just pulled myself away to make a quick sarnie before I fainted from low blood sugar

Peachie, I assume from the fact that you are still standing that it wasn't earth shattering LOL, still would have liked to have seen it

Bob2112

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Nothing, Wcv63. :)
Just teasing Oregonfire and her missing post.

Oregonfire

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:20 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Okay let me try to recapture this how it was. I should be saving everything I type this days in "Copy," because it can go floopy in a second.

I knew that nobody was going to agree with me, so I just (somewhat) quietly go along and believe what I do, and be an optimist about it. I can just relate to the whole Roddy-Chiara connection in a way that others can't I guess. I dated a lot from college and in my 20s, and the kind of things they are going through seem natural to me.
Dating is hugely messy and complicated. Right now they are negotiating the boundaries of their relationship. It seems fair to me to call it a relationship because everything in the house is accelerated and intensified to an alarming degree.

Regardless of how serious Roddy may be or may not be, he has chosen to share a bed with Chiara and become more emotionally intimate. He shouldn't have choosen Wife Number One so soon if he couldn't see a month down the road, especially if he is going to use flirting of the kissing and butt-slapping variety as a strategy. He's not quite as smart as he thinks if he seriously thought his behavior wasn't going to cause problems! Duh, IQ boy! Do you know *anything* about women beyond the fact that they like to be flattered?

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:25 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Not to belabor the point, Oregon, but I still disagree with you. I don't think they are "dating". I think they are using each other.

I do agree with the latter part of your post. If Roddy thought making a love connection was going to serve him well in the game, he was underestimating the power of emotion...and not factoring in how insecure and cattty Chiapet really is.

Scorpiomoon

Sunday, July 21, 2002 - 02:26 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
And here I am leavig post #100.

Heh.

This is the third time I've done this.

I love it. :)