Is anyone else feeling a bit sorry for Gerry?
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Sunlit

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 10:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I ask this question because so much hostility seems to be focused on the big guy. I haven't been able to glean just what is so *awful* about him. He did a self-examination and discovered some unattractive truths about himself, but besides that, why is there so much anger and hatred focused toward him? Is it the classic "need a fall guy" syndrome?

Guinevere

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that's part of it. I think it's a combination of him being annoying to the other HGs, not connecting with the other HGs, and the fact that having a communal focus for the antipathy in the house is helpful and natural, psychologically.

I find him irritating, but I do feel sorry for him. He doesn't deserve to be hated, at all.

Snee

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
yep. agree with both of you.

Chance

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I agree. Gerry is even taking criticism on this board for isolating himself...pullllease who is he supposed to hang with??? If he's with anyone then everyone else accuses him of following them around. I may have to take a break from all this for awhile. I am really beginning to despise Josh. all the lies, all the endless backstabbing by so many people. ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Montybooth

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:37 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think he's pompous and not genuine, very self serving. He first tried to play the race card on the entire group, and then turned it on himself, making a big spectacle, "On, look at how I have fallen". I think what happened was the minute the crew, "the first 6", he was with started to not like him and he couldn’t be the dominate leader of the group, so he turned on them and created (in his mind) this belated whole fall from grace to ingratiate himself with everyone else (which Marcellus and Danielle and everyone else didn’t seem to buy for a second).

In general, the way he talks, I can tell he’s trying to sell himself. I'm not saying he deserves hatred, but I don’t like him because I think he's an egotistical man with askew self knowledge who unsuccessfully tried to turn himself into a martyr.

Bbadict

Friday, July 19, 2002 - 11:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I like Gerry. Maybe it is because I am nearer his age group than most of you, but, I don't see him the way most of you do at all.
He is not going to fit in with the young houseguests.
He has nothing in common with them.
He seems like he is acting pretty much like most people would at his age.
I know that if I had to live with that bunch I would probably kill them!
The best thing for him would be for him to get voted out and save his sanity.
But saying that, I still want him to stay if he can take it!

Fabnsab

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:00 am EditMoveDeleteIP
No matter what Gerry has done, he does not deserve this. They chose him early on to hate. They are shallow people who use his age as the reason they don't communicate well with him but I am their age and I would have no problem with people from other ages. It is called an open mind. They have dogged him at every chance. So what, the guy says he has a black friend or a gay friend or a fireman friend. Why does that make him evil? They love that they THINK he wants to be like them but he proved them wrong by using the veto and their egos just couldnt stand it.

Classycassfan

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:01 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bb I so agree with you, also maybe since I come from the same generation as Gerry. I see some on this tread and on other Gerry threads find what he does as wrong. Yet they don't seem to acknowledge that other players are doing the same things as Gerry. Such as changing his view of Marc. Hasn't some of the other 6/sex packers also shown a change toward Marc? And the must ado about the Race/Homaphobic cards Gerry is accused of playing. If you are reading either the live feeds or the board tonite you can see that the Race card is being used by Josh in a way that Gerry never did.

Any way how do the Gerry Haters want him to act??? Maybe they think he should be spoonin with Tonya, Chiapet or lori? Isn't that what the other males in the house spend alot of their time doing? Or maybe better yet he should go around smacking everyones a$$ for entertainment.

I guess I need to take a break for BB cuz I am getting so frustrated about some posters going on and on about Gerry and his wrongs while they seem to think that the same actions of Josh or the others is fine.

Fabnsab

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
How can Mar even think about putting Gerry up when he saved him??? Is he saying this just to placate Dani or is he serious?

Gelcell

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I can't stand Gerry (in the house). He is everything to everyone and it comes off fake, or mischievous. This is why he is not liked. He has been the yes man when it suited him. He stood up and said he was a bad boy but has seen the light again, when it suited him.

Unlike Amy and Marc the group didn't come in and start not likening him he brought it on himself.
Yes Josh is a jerk and the business between them should not be considered, and from what I have seen most of the house guest didn't come to their conclusion about Gerry via Josh.

I'm sure Gerry is a different person on the outside, and I can tell in his own element he has the potential of being a well liked dynamic person, but the house can bring things out of people that aren’t the way they really are, and I think that has happened to him.

I have Gerry in our BB Pool at work, and I am not going to miss him when he goes.

Feel sorry for him?....................no.

Classycassfan

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have the feeling this tread is just falling into the I hate Gerry treads such as "Why is Gerry everyones punching bag" and "I'm not to crazy about Gerry".

However I find it VERY hard not to take the Josh/Gerry problem into consideration as it is one of the most posted items in the lfs. And why is the issue there so much, because of one person. Josh. hmmmmm makes me wonder why Josh feels the need to attack Gerry so much? And surly Josh is mature enough to let last weeks noms and veto go as it is a done issue. But then again maybe he's not.

I am sorry to see this tread change into another let me list the reasons I hate Gerry...

Because I do feel sorry for him. Seem there is a double standard going on

Roamjotiba

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:04 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone catch the feed today when Gerry left the HOH room with Marcellas, Amy and Danielle in there and said he didn't know if he would be back in and a few minutes later Danielle said what do you wanna bet and opened the door real fast and low and behold there was a surprised Gerry standing right there eavesdropping. Didn't see it in the live feed posts

Crossfire

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:20 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Hehehe®

That is the kind of stuff I want to see on the TV program.

Squidward

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:51 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is not my favorite, but I don't hate him. I am beginning to wonder whether some posters dislike him so much simply because he is older? There is always a group here that detests the older guy with a passion. No, I'm not in Gerry's age group (I am 28), but I don't understand the hate towards him from some posters and Josh. Well, I can understand it coming from Josh, he needs someone around to blame everything on and try to be ousted in his place.

Sisalou

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is not my favorite but neither is Josh. You would think that Gerry is Charles Manson they way they are carrying on!

Gerry hasn't done anything worse than anyone else. They need to give it a rest and move on to something else.

What is that saying about "beating a dead horse"? Is that how it goes?

Trying to make sense but I am tired!

Maris

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 05:13 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont like Gerry and I am closer to his age than I am to 20. He tries to present himself as someone who is morally and intellectually above every single person in that house and people like that ultimately get taken down.

I can't stand watching the way he follows Marcellas around. He thought he could manipulate people and he realized too late that he couldn't.

I am glad he had an epiphany so early in the game but I think it only came about when he realized that he was not going to be long for the six pack and that he would look like a bigger ass he if he stuck around with them. I was tired of his dad routine after day two when he greeted everyone in the morning with you have to clean up we have ants.

I agree with Marcellas there is time enough to get rid of Gerry but I sure do hope it comes soon.

Tre34

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:18 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is not my favorite but in the end I would rather be standing next to him or Josh. These people forgot that the evictees are the voters therefore keeping in the least liked individuals secures a win (see Will and Nicole) all hated Nicole and with real reason.

Auntiedotcom

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 06:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
gerry would not be my favorite to win, but he also doesn't strike me as "evil."

i am horrified that josh is treating him so badly - nobody deserves to be disrespected in the ways that josh is disrespecting gerry.

of course josh is so over the top in his behaviours, he will now have to pay for that with his eviction.

any HG with any sense will realize that it's gerry right now, but it could be any of them another week down the road, and josh is SOOO awful, none of them want to be his target.

Maryann

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:27 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't feel sorry for Gerry, he's a smart guy and he'll weather this storm.
The only HG I have a grudge against is Lisa because she made that remark about possibly needing security if Marc went off on her when she nominated him.
That told me all I needed to know about how she
perceives people...OTOH, it's possible that this may provide a moment of epiphany for her..Kent certainly learned that his fears about Gays were
rather silly as he got to know Bunky.

Earthmother

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 07:40 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I don't feel sorry for him but I think he is being treated unfairly. Josh has made it a point to discredit him based on the fact that if Gerry had not used the veto then Josh would not have had to go against his alliance (agreement: purely semantics)during voting. He felt an obligation to Lori because it was him (personally) who told her they would save her and he had to look at the end when she could do him harm if he didn't. This put him in the position of being caught going against the 6 pack and insure his eviction. He has gone overboard on his Gerry bashing to keep the others from looking at the vote more closely. Gerry always has said the race and gay thing were his crosses to bear not the others...Once the 6 pack is disolved completely and if Josh is still around someone will tell him to "shut the hell up."

Montybooth

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 11:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have absolutely nothing against his age, whatsoever- I simply dont buy him. Like I said, I think he tired to turn himself into a ‘holier than thou’ martyr, no in the house believes it and he has been paying the consequences, especially with the group he first aligned himself with (their young age is just a coincidence, a minor factor). Is Josh being too harsh- yes, but what the heck do you expect, its paranoid, power hungry, Josh after all?

Yeah, they (the 6) have done some of the same behavior, Josh playing his own race card, but the difference is they are more upfront about being deceitful, whereas Gerry tried to turn himself into some righteous man when he’s just as much of a snake.

Bbadict

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 12:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What is so terrible about Gerry?
I don't get the feeds but nothing I have read on this board or seen on TV seems that bad to me.
Except for the speech, which I don't agree was fake, why does everyone hate him so much?
Why is he a snake?
I am honestly curious, I just don't get it.
And does everyone think if Gerry left, Josh would just turn his hatred on someone else?

Texastillie

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 01:55 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry is deceitful? Gerry is egotistical? Gerry is self-serving? OMG! He doesn't hold a candle in those categories to most of the others. He shot himself in the foot to try to do the right thing by Marcellus. Granted, he wanted to be sure that everyone knew about it but so what? Gerry certainly is not the villain in the house. He was bound to be an "outsider" solely due to his age and couldn't possibly have much in common with any of the others. But he's okay - He surely hasn't been mean to anyone.

Draheid

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 02:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Gerry said what was in his heart. He didn't say it for anyone's benefit but his own. I also believe, whether consciously or sub-consciously, he was also trying to raise the race issue in order to prevent Danielle from possibly being nominated. The last part is something I don't think most people are aware of, but I think it's a true. IMHO, of course.

Kappy

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 02:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Amen, TexasTil, to what you just said. And I agreewith ClassyCass that everything the hg's come up with to discredit him has for the most part been planted by Josh. Gerry took Josh in the beginning and tried to be a mentor because as a teacher, he saw a troubled insecure kid. Josh has been against him ever since. All Gerry has to do is walk by and Josh instantly starts in to the others about "did you see that fat nazi . . blah, blah, blah." And yes, for that, I feel sorry for Gerry. Gerry's biggest crime is that he saw through Josh by day two and he's been paying for it ever since.

Lurknomore

Saturday, July 20, 2002 - 03:04 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally I can't say I like Gerry that much and did find his speech to be pompous and an attempt to put himself on some shining pedestal.

But that said, I see it as a reason to be ANNOYED with him. But absolutely NO legit reason to be as hated and despised as he his. And talk about double standard. They at all listened to Josh force the "jew card" (an embarassment for those of us raised Jewish I might add...least it was for me) and try to use it last night. But Gerry is evil for his words??? I don't get it.

And for Josh to say that Gerry will have no life to go back to outside the house for what he did? GOOD GRIEF. Sounds like Gerry has a lot more of one than Josh does.