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Kapow

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:34 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Just a note - look at one of the other reality shows - Survivor. No one EVER washes their hands with soap and it is ok. They eat weird things that would not be normally classified in the US as food. No one on Survivor has died.

Also, think of young mothers who let their babies/toddlers drop pacifiers and pick them up and stuff them back in their little mouths. They don't die, either.

Yes, it is gross. Yes, i would be unhappy if someone went to the potty and did not wash their hands before preparing my food. But, is it a serious health issue? No.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, Lori freaked out. You have to see it to really understand I guess!

She could've been a lot calmer--I had no idea that she was that spastic during the confrontation. I could barely even look at her I was so embarrassed. That was some stream being blown off for sure.

Maris

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I dont know a single mother that would pick a pacifier up from the ground and put it in the babies mouth (they might put it in their mouth first. lol). They just dont do it.

As far as survivor is concerned, we dont know that they didnt wash with soap, we didnt have 24/7 feeds. In any event, if soap is available it should be used. These people are in a house with showers, soap, and everything they need to maintain hygiene. I just dont believe you can "forget" to wash your hands after the bathroom, either you do it or you dont. I could never forget, it is ingrained in me just like I am incapable of littering. It is there.

Kaili

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:45 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
This is a bit off topic, but in a way it applies. Awhile back I was at this resturant and my boyfriend went to the bathroom...when he came out he said there was a cook in the bathroom who peed and left without washing his hands. Think about a sweaty cook in a hot kitchen peeing. Yep, we won't be returning to that particular establishment.

Stuff like that makes me hate eating out. So yeah, it is a gross thing. I have been to Dairy Queen and watched people wipe their hands on their dirty, sticky shirts before serving food. This stuff happens non-stop. But I bet all those people condemning Gerry that night have eaten out before and not thought a lot about it. It's always worse when you see it.

But you're right Kapow- nobody is dying from it. It's gross, but not the end of the world. So many people have good points that we could almost have a Places To Pick Up Germs thread...ATM buttons, door handles, escalator handles, miniture gold clubs, movie theater seats, INHALING!

Urgrace

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:48 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Karuuna, I TA. Hand washing is not something that lasts all day long, and should be done in no less than 20 seconds thoroughly and with soap - often.
<A pal of mine laughed at me for washing the sink before I washed the dishes in it>

Fluffybbw, you are getting a great start on your posting!

Kapow

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Maris, I agree with you. It is best practice to wash hands (and pacifiers!). But I have seen more than one of my friends pick up their baby's pacifiers and say "five second rule!" (meaning that if has not been on the ground more than five seconds - it is ok) and put it back in baby's mouth.

I also agree that one SHOULD wash their hands after going to the bathroom. Unfortunately, statistics show that not everyone does this. While it is gross, it doesn't really hurt people that often. The kinds of food poisoning that people usually get is related to meat contamination - not poor hygiene.

Not at all trying to be argumentative...just sharing my viewpoint.....

Katrina

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 09:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Webkitty, FWIW in answer to your question, I heard recently on A&E's "Biography" that the late, great James Beard preferred to toss salads by hand. Apparently, none of the available utensils were as satisfactory to him, until eventually he designed some of his own to work more like hands than any other implements. Not that I'm crediting Gerry with being some kind of culinary genius, absent proper kitchen hygiene skills.

Cameltoes

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:35 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I found the Danielle humor segments interesting in the sense that I think they chose to air them during this episode to balance out the Lori/Danielle confrontation. If they had only showed that without showing another side of her, some viewers might get a skewed idea of her. Still, many houseguests are enigmnas to the TV only audience. I still don't think they do a good job of truly showing the house dynamics. They are still too in love with their own challenges. I did laugh when Amy commented on wanting the grass skirt and lei that matched. I found Danielle humorous. Her comments on Josh? Priceless. His butt smacking - I wouldn't have stood for it for a second personally. I'm over the whole hand washing incident but it made for good TV. Gerry's veto moment didn't live up to my expectations. I think he's out to lunch as far as his judgement in this game. I can't roast him too bad though because I do feel bad for the situation that has now been created for him in the house. Marcellas's breakdown was so over the top I had to laugh. He handles himself beautifully during the veto meeting. Love him.

Pirate

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 04:05 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I was writing this last night and when I went to post it, the server had come down. Glad to see it's OK now.

Tonights show was entertaining. I think they will concentrate on a few HGs on each show. It just makes better viewing.

The hand washing thing was blown way out of proportion. Yes, you should wash your hands after you use the bathroom. But, like a couple of the others have said here, you should wash them immediately before you begin to prepare the food. (Webkitty - guess you never watch the Food Channel or Martha Stewart. They use their hands all the time preparing any and everything.) How many run to the sink to wash up if they use their hands to cover their mouth when they sneeze or cough? Or blow their nose? We can all think of a gizzillion different reasons when one should wash their hands. I also think it's ironic that these women were going on and on about the hand washing when they all sit around talking about oral sex all the time. Guess you don't get germs that way.

I think Danielle is funny. I think she has them all pegged with her impressions. From the first few shows she came across as being pretty laid back and serious. But I love her humor and I laughed at her DR entries.

Marc is entertaining too. I think the more the others get to know him, they will keep him around longer.

Josh makes my skin crawl. Wish he'd crawl back under that rock they found him under.

Gerry, Gerry, Gerry - I almost started to like you. You're trying to hard man, tone it down a notch or two.

I am beginning to warm up to Amy a little bit.

It's so sad that the only thing anyone notices about Tonya is her boobs. But I guess she wants it that way. Not much else going for her. She is the dumb blonde joke personified.

And the others are to dull for comments.

Floresmama

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 04:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Did anyone else notice(they haven't posted about if they did)that when Chiapet and Booby were in the shower and Amy went to the bathroom she came out and guess what? She didn't wash her hands.

Maris

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 04:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
LOL Flores. Actually in that meeting about washing hands, they talked about Amy not washing her hands too but they said that it wasn't as serious because she didnt handle food or cook. I knew there was a good reason for her not doing anything.

Eliz87

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 05:34 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I think that Lori was absolutely correct in how she handled the hand-washing situation. She didn't have to be as spastic as she was about it, but apparently that's just her personality. Even I was getting annoyed with the catty way the girls were gossiping about Gerry, and the producers showed maybe only 15 seconds of it, right? Lori was the only one who suggested an appropriate way to handle it, but I think she would have been much more effective had she not been soooooooooooooo totally over-the-top about it. She seemed to have been so upset, she couldn't even get her thoughts well-organized, and it prevented her from making her point clear about the "running our hands through our hair" topic. I appreciate she called them on being so two-faced. So, right idea, Lori, just the wrong way to go about it.

Other thoughts on the show tonight:

Marcellas is a card. :-) I love his flamboyant nature. Also very clever how he "played" the fiancee story.

Josh was presented to be the pig that he is (so what else is new?). Would it even be POSSIBLE for the producers to show this weasel in a positive light? I think not.

I don't think the producers have really shown how "sleazy" the other five are yet. It wasn't really made clear what was going on in the shower. Tonya just portrayed to be eye candy - not much shown of her conversations yet. Noticed that Chiara didn't get too much airtime either. Lisa came across pretty good on the show. Eric and Roddy - who are they? (hehe)

Amy is lovely - I think about the most "normal" person there.

I find Danielle's impressions to be VERY annoying. If I were in the house, I'd be vying to get her out ASAP. Yuck. But at least she was honest when she said she "could be as fake as her implants."

Gerry's just Gerry - I think he's a little drab and there's something about him I just don't like - can't get it pegged yet though.

Also, who's Jason? Didn't see too much of him at all, besides the fact that he couldn't find any missing items in the house.

And, the luau scene made me hungry!! :-)

Overall, a pretty good show. I agree wholeheartedly with whoever said it's put together much better than BB2.

P.S. Are we really SURE that Lori is gone? I sure hope so, but with Chiara getting jealous of Amy/Roddy, I don't know.

Spunky

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 07:26 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Pretty much what I wanted to say was said by so many here which shows we are reacting much the same way to the tv show. It seems, however, that the net viewers are getting the other side of the story which we, the tv viewers only, will never see. I'm okay with that, reading it here is just as good.

I'm sorry to see Lori leave because she has the guts to be upfront with everybody and I applaud her move to force the others to tell Gerry of his duty to handwashing after using the toilet. However, when she was asked by Danielle if she was satisfied she should have said not only "yes" but also, "you'd better remember next time to go straight to the person involved before you talk behind his/her back". But hopefully that was understood.

Will I ever like that Josh? Doesn't look so. I wonder if he does that on purpose and encouraged to do so by BB (since they don't mind showing his annoying behaviour at every show).

All in all, I kinda of miss BB2 players.

Realtvfan

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 07:32 am EditMoveDeleteIP
To me, the seach game spoke volumes about the HGs basic abilities to think and observe within general day to day life. Which HGs are not focused completely upon only themselves?

The games this year are much more potentially thought provoking into the minds of the HGs. Hopefully no more boring key sliding games. This is a very big improvement over BB2.

How the game turned out as to who could play the search game well and who could not, was not a suprise to me.

Then Josh was upset because he was chosen last, never mind that he personally was a prime reason that his team lost. Given his very predictable poor performance, that was much too funny that he still can not add 2 and 2 together. And no one told Josh to shut up by explaing to Josh that he caused the team to lose. Don't let me in the house. I could not keep my mouth shut.

I'm in agreement with previous posters - Given that Amy is both so cute and so well spoken, she showed she has a much stronger background than I originally anticipated. Great job Amy. I'm impressesd.

Was Jason eliminated last week? LOL.

Rissa

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 08:03 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I have only been keeping up with the live feeds half as much as with BB2 and I can see the difference when I watch the show. Last year I would make comments at the screen about how they were *editting* the players, this year I am forming opinions partially based on the show (big mistake uh? LOL) Hubby does not keep up with the net talk or the live feed summaries at all so it's very interesting seeing his reactions as well. He is totally impressed with Danielle and thinks Gerry is a huge drama queen. I was in the midst of telling him the Chiara-the-huge-idiot-who-explains-codes story when she had to ask for help spelling oar. RFLMAO He got the impression that Lori is a major emotion repressor and just grabbed the first opportunity to vent (re: the handwashing), he cant stand her voice or her body language when she talks. He is also at a loss at to why Josh is still being allowed to walk free and breathe much less not being nominated. He saw the diary room with Marc. and made a comment that if he was in the house, he would HAVE to punch him out. LOL By the end of the show though he said he would still have had to punch him out but would probably come to like the guy. (chances are that this is a good time to mention that hubby has NEVER punched anyone out. LOL) The shot of the two girls in the shower with the 3 guys just STARING at them was a pain inducer, we were laughing so hard, even though I had already read about it.

The one place we (hubby and I) really split in opinions is over Amy. I didn't like her the first show which is obviously before the live feeds began but since then she has really grown on me and I like her more and more. Hubby has only seen her on TV and does not care for her at all, thinks she is a bubble head with a bubbly little girl voice and a blank stare.

Spunky

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Well, this time the Nudity warning was only shown once (I think it was just before the Luau).

I agree, those 3 guys staring the two women showering was just too funny and tv viewers must have made a double take...(well, I read what went on and so seeing it on tv, even if just a glimpse, was just too funny..)

Tabbyking

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 08:21 am EditMoveDeleteIP
well, your husband is sorta correct about amy, and she is still the best gal in the house!!
i didn't care for her the first night, then thought she was a scream. had she changed? no, but i appreciated her more after seeing tonya, lisa and chiara!
if you watch the live feed and your hubby watches only the episodes, it sure shows what editing can do!

Lostinthefog

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 08:24 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Rissa, your husband has stolen (just kidding) every single thought that was ever in my head about this BB3 cast. I second his viewpoint.

Ginger

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
My take on the Lori/hand washing thing was kind of like Sobaditsgood's. Though I did think that Lori was basically hysterical, I thought she was ultimately right. She wanted these hot shots to have the courage of their convictions and to stop their back stabbing and instead communicate like adults. Lori was righteous. I liked that. What I didn't like is how she chose to communicate her righteousness like a raving lunatic. If she had handled herself better, she'd have been pretty wonderful in that moment I think.

Gerry, oh Gerry. I was embarassed to watch. Way overblown. Way too self-congratulatory. He seemed to have no clue that all his talk about how not racist and homophobic he is has the opposite effect.

Amy seemed cool. I didn't like her one iota on show one, but now she seems like the best woman in the house.

I want to be on Danielle's side, but she's too enamoured of the sex-pack for my taste. Also, I didn't find her to be that humorous, though she earned big points for her comment on Josh being the least sexy man she'd ever met.

The sex-pack were invisible! Except for Lisa, who was presented as a fairly nice person.

Marcellus is by far my favorite HG. I adore him and hope he goes all the way.

Oregonfire

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 12:56 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I know about the Danielle thing, not too funny. There was a whole thread on another board about how her impressions were too broad and generic to be that funny. We are a discriminating audience, we BB3 fans.

She was telling a "sex story" the other night that wasn't too funny either. Lisa and Chiara were not laughing. A potential flaw?

Angelbleu

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 01:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I am glad that the public is not voting because if they were just going by what they see on tv they would NOT be getting a true feel of the people.

Azriel

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Is it just me or was anyone else not moved by Marc's story about his proposal to his girlfriend? Granted, I didn't hear the whole story at the time that he told it and I haven't got a clue why they never actually married, but I really didn't understand the kleenex moment that all the girls shared over it. He fell in love, bought a ring and asked a girl to marry him...ho hum.

Inkydinkyspider

Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:23 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
ON the hand washing item....I agree it is gross...however the live feeds showed Chiandra sitting on countertop and today Eric put is legs up....if Chaindra had on her swim suit (or worse the thong one) then that is really gross as there is so little of it to cover anything....and Eric's legs and feet can't be that clean either....they all need a lesson on hygiene....