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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: Archive Three: Ok, so Lori is outta here - Who do you want to win next HoH ???: Archive through July 15, 2002

Ryn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:39 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
She will walk, I can't seee it changing - no matter - who do you wan to win HoH??

I want Jerry, he is the only one I trust to Nom 2 of the 5 I want gone - Josh, Eric, Roddy, Lisa or Chiara.

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:40 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As much as I hate to admit it after today, I'm with you.

Ryn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
If the 6pack wins HoH - the others are toast.

they will be whittled away.

Fifi

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:42 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd love to see what Danielle would do if she won HOH next!

Ryanc2002

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
What about Jay?

Cameltoes

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:43 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Gerry - I agree. I don't want Josh nominated yet and Gerry may not do that. Amy has mentioned she may put Jason up (hopefully Marc will talk some sense into her) against Chiara. Marc would also put 2 six packers up but he will put up Josh which I think is the wrong move at this point.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:49 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
1. I'd like to see Marcellas win HOH.
2. I'd like to see him nominate any two 6 packers except Josh.
3. I'd like to see Amy win the veto.
4. I'd like Amy to veto a 6 packer to help her trustworthiness with them.
5. Then I'd like to see Marcellas nominate Josh.

The only way for Josh to be nominated and NOT be saved with a veto is to him BE the veto replacement nomination. I think Josh would lose against any other 6 packer (or "core 4" or whoever the heck they are these days). The rest of that group would turn on him, as would everyone else.

This is what I WANT to happen....but like they say "People in hell want iced water"

Realtvfan

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:50 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
It will be interesting to see which game the HGs have to play to become HOH.

a) A game of semi-skill or random luck, or
b) a game of calling out other's names (as we just saw with the first veto game), or
c) a game of questions in which BB can potentially slant the questions one way or the other.

Lurknomore

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:51 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Why don't you guys want Josh nominated yet? My fear if he stays is that he will ride the same type coattails Will did (my only comparison to them, I still think Josh is Mike Boogie deux). Folks will leave him in thinking they can get rid of him at any time and that he isn't a threat. Of course since only Jason seems to have any legit knowledge of BB2, they may be too stupid to see this.

Curlyq

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I hope Gerry wins. After officially breaking with the alliance he's the only one who has really got to worry about the alliance getting a chance at revenge. Danielle would probably put one 6-packer against one Outsider, like Krista did last year. Amy, Marcellus, and Jason all strike me as people who will try to get an in with the 6-Pack by kissing up to them. In spite of all Marcellus has said I can still see him making amends with them and joining them later on.

Gerry is the only one who has burned his bridge with them. Hopefully he'd either put Roddy and Eric against each other or Lisa and Chiara against each other. Let's get rid of some of these clones.

Muse

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd like Gerry to win HOH. He has the guts to do what he thinks is right, and he'd probably talk to other people (Marcellas and Amy, at least) to get their input. So he'd do what was in all of their best interest. I hope. :)

I wouldn't care who won the veto. Gerry could just pick someone else from the alliance to replace a nominee, assuming the veto was used at all.

Cameltoes

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:57 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
The reason is that he is not to my mind part of the power core (Roddy/Eric, Chiara/Lisa). I think a powerful (yet still relatively likeable as far as the other HGs are concerned) person like Roddy, Eric or Lisa should go first. I don't think Josh can pull a Will at this point because some other people are playing too well. Roddy for instance would have fall really far in their estimation to lose to Josh in a final 2 scenario. My ideal scenario would be a power person leaving followed by an obnoxious one. So Roddy, then Josh, then Lisa, then Chiara etc.

Curlyq

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 02:59 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I guess that was the foolish thing about building an alliance of so many members. Even if there's a veto there's plenty of other members to target. When will they learn that alliances just don't work in this game?

Seanflynn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Keep in mind it's a two-step --
HOH
AND Veto holder
So any discussion of HOH must keep that in mind

Marcellus for HOH
Gerry for Veto again (unless can;t have for two straight weeks)

PLUS who knows what other wrinkles could occur

Lancecrossfire

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:00 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'd take Gerry or Marc--Any too as far as winning the next HOH. Of course I'd want one of these to alsow in the veto so Josh stays on the chopping block.

Part of it for me is wanting to see how loyal his group would be to him. We saw thaht Chill Town was at least loyal to each other--they never gave in.

I'm not so sure these folks with stick with Josh if Tonya was the other one againts him. I can see the females booting Josh like he was penniless road kill. I also wonder if Roddy and Eric would want Tonya around over Josh. I think it would be kind of fun to see Josh's eyes when all the votes were for him--including his "buddies".

Mystery

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:08 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I'll be interested to see how many HGs actually even try to win HOH or the veto power. I think some of them don't want to win either.

Delilah

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:16 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
As much as I want him to go, they would be crazy to get rid of Josh right now. They need to eliminate strong players and break up alliances. Josh thinks he is important and he is - he is easily swayed and not very clever. I also hope he doesn't win HOH or the veto.

That being said, I would like to see Roddy win HOH, (he has more integrity than the rest of the six pack/core 4 and wouldn't be their puppet) or Amy. Roddy is playing the game strategically. I would like to see Jason or Danielle win the veto vote.

I know this has been said before but the veto thing is silly because the HOH just has to pick three people each week and they still choose the noms.

Mystery, I do agree with you, Will threw a lot of challenges and never won HOH - make them hate you and think you're not a threat. Take him with you til the end because anyone could win over him etc.... It was a great strategy and it fooled everyone.

JMHO

Seanflynn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:17 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Mystery --
If too many people try to duck either, BB will come up with away where it is not skill but luck of the draw

Ryn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Here is why HoH is important.... whomever wins HoH this week determines who is out if you are a fan of the non 6-pack - whatever.

I ran these numbers but let me run em once more.

assuming there are/will be - 6 (sixpac) and 5 (non)

if a 6 pack wins HoH he/she noms 2 no

then

6pac have 5 votes (one hoh)
non's have 3 votes (two noms)

Non is OUT

the other route

Non HoH - noms 2 6pacs

veto to 6pac... HoH chooses another 6pac

6pac - 4 votes (2 noms)
Regs - 4 votes (1 HoH)

Tie - HoH breaks it - 6pac out.

Ryn

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:19 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Roddy alread talked aobut throwing it, none of the 6pack want it except Josh I think, but they can't afford to let the other people get it either....


mwhahahaah

Cameltoes

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:24 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Yes Ryn. It cracks me up. They all want someone else to be the fall guy and Josh is stupid enough to actually want to be the one to win HOH.

Sanfranjoshfan

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 03:28 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Ryn....good mathematics! I agree.

Faerygdds

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:18 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
can we NOT call them "the other people" shades of BB2's TOP and all that...

I was in the kitchen when I thought of an excellent moniker for them...

The Dream Team! Why? If the think you can win this game without being Machiavellian in any way shape or form... they are DREAMING!!! :)

Grumblingdrake

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 04:54 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Personally, I want to see one of the Geckos win.
(just kidding... looking for an excuse to post so I can say Hi to faerygdds)

Maris

Monday, July 15, 2002 - 05:02 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
I think Marcellas will do everythhing in his power to get HOH. If he gets HOH he will put Josh up against Tonya.