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The ClubHouse: General Discussion Archives: Archive Three: Short Q & A archive: Archive through July 17, 2002

Mygetaway

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:07 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
Cinder... Thanks, I thought so!
Yep, I guess it's a copyright thing on the signing.. Sounds stupid to me..
Why did Sean get to sing on Survivor? Probably because they had time to get the copyright approved or whatever... jeez!

Ryn

Tuesday, July 16, 2002 - 11:32 pm EditMoveDeleteIP
They have to pay royalties on every song sung. Its one thing for Sean to sing a song or two, the HGs sing 5 or 6 an hour ;)

The handyman painted almost all the squares, I hav eno idea if they are the "same" ones. I watched him paint many of them a darker color.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:41 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I keep hearing the phrase "wife beater" being brought up in jest by several of the hgs.

What does it mean?

I don't mean to sound totally PC or anything, but I find it kind of an offensive term to use while joking around.

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:43 am EditMoveDeleteIP
White tanktop thingy I think

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Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:45 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Put it on my tab, Ryan!

I'll owe you $500K by the end of the show. :)

So, let me get this straight, a "wife beater" is a white tank top?

*Rolls eyes"

Tootseug

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's one of those white, undershirts, without sleeves, usually ribbed, open neck. very sexy if you ask me...for men or women to wear

Wcv63

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:55 am EditMoveDeleteIP
One of those sleeveless white undershirts (sometimes ribbed). Commonly called a wifebeater because the majority of men appearing on cop shows getting arrested for domestic violence seem to wear them.

Oregonfire

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Kid Rock wears them...Pammy Anderson is hanging them from a clothes line in that one video.

Tootseug

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 01:58 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I didn't know that second part Wcv, that's very interesting. Makes sense.

Ryn

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:09 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Bump - a great thread for Q & A's that don't need a thread of their own.

Maris

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:11 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Wow, I didnt know that is what those t-shirts were called. I cant stand them myself but you are right you do see people wearing them on tv when they are arrested. Back in the 70s tv shows the guy was usually fat and had a half smoked cigar sticking out of his mouth. LOL

Resortgirl

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:19 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Can anyone fill me in on the "NO singing" rule?

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:23 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Copyright infringement I think. Funny thing is it seems to be "The No Singing for Amy" rule.

Chiparock

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:29 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I thought the "wife beater" t-shirt was so named because that was what Stanley Kowalski (played by Marlon Brando)wore in "A Streetcar Named Desire." Stanley was rather abusive to his wife "Stelllla!" Ever since then, the t-shirts have been symbolic of low-life, wife-beating scum.
It's amazing how many creeps on "Cops" wear the "uniform!"

Faerygdds

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The Copyright infringment thing is crystal clear in my mind... and I can explain the FOTH in one word - NAPSTER!

think about it...

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 07:39 am EditMoveDeleteIP
They can't sue someone for singing... The record labels could give a damn if Amy or anyone else SINGS! And can't sue an individual for downloading mp3's, only the company. I mean, it's possible for the labels to sue a single person, but not logical.

Beagle

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:10 am EditMoveDeleteIP
*New Question*

Can someone please explain the "six pack" who's in it, when did they form, is this the name we gave them or did they give it to themselves.

Resortgirl

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:12 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Thanks Ryan... guess if I would have scrolled up to the top I would have answered my own question... DUH!!

Iceprincess

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:14 am EditMoveDeleteIP
The original 6-pack were the 6 out of the tree first (the first night money challenge). This was: Amy, Gerry, Josh, Lisa, Eric, and Chiara. Gerry nicknamed them the "Cartel". I believe we dubbed them the 6-pack.

The new and improved 6-pack is Josh, Lisa, Eric, Chiara, Roddy and Tonya.

But! It gets hairier. There is a core 4 which includes: Lisa, Eric, Chiara and Roddy. They feel that Josh and Tonya are expendables.

Beagle

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:25 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Many thanks, Iceprincess. It helps to explain a great deal to me. I guess we have to watch for Amy and Josh to break off from the six pack, because they will at some point pick up on the fact that they're not "included" and may be expendable. This could get interesting real quick.

Iceprincess

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:36 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Beagle,

you mean Tonya and Josh. But they are so snowed right now I don't know if they will see it. The core 4 are playing a good game.

Marcieb

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:42 am EditMoveDeleteIP
I've got one...Why are the six pack now saying Gerry's the poster boy for the KKK? And that his robe is already made?

Ryanc2002

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:46 am EditMoveDeleteIP
He admitted at the Veto-vote meeting that his decision to go with the group and oust Marc. was because of race and sexual prejudice.

Then, if you believe the six pack he proceeded to say that the others did the same thing.

Iceprincess

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:47 am EditMoveDeleteIP
Because he pulled the race/gay card saying HE felt they only nominated Marcellas because he was black and gay. When Gerry said this (probably will be shown on tonites show) he made it clear that it was his own personal prejudices and that he was fixing it by using the VETO on Marcellas. The 6pack turned this around now and are making him out to be a KKK member.

Katrina

Wednesday, July 17, 2002 - 08:48 am EditMoveDeleteIP
It's not about being sued for singing; it's about having to pay the royalties. Businesses that broadcast copyrighted music within the course of their business without permission/special exemption (like radio stations, videos on MTV, etc.) have to pay royalties. This has been well established even prior to Napster or wide use of the Internet. Health clubs have to pay if they use songs for their aerobics classes, restaurant chains have to pay if they use the traditional version of "Happy Birthday", etc. CBS does not want to incur the royalty expense, especially not over a broadcast medium like the 'net, where the royalty issues might get a little tricker or more expensive. They're stuck on this one. It just wasn't as well enforced in past years, because people were slow to start applying it all to the 'net. Faerygdds is right to mention Napster, in that that is the thing that really focused the RIAA's attention on music use on the Internet. They've been increasingly vigilant about uses of copyrighted music on the 'net ever since.

BTW, it's not so much that it's "singing." It's that it's considered "performance" when it's broadcast that way by a commercial enterprise. BB3 is not some lone production off on an island somewhere that the RIAA would have trouble reaching. There are industry practices and agreements for this kind of thing, presumably being updated for modern technology uses as time goes by, and Hollywood production companies/studios/networks definitely have to play ball with the music industry on a regular basis. It's all in the course of business, and BB3 has to block the singing or pay up. It would be nice if they would at least give the HG's a list of any acceptable songs or suggest they make up their own songs or something. Or punish them for singing, rather than have to punish the LF viewers with FOTH every time.