Archive through September 23, 2000

The ClubHouse: Big Brother 2000: General - Archives: Questions, questions and more questions: Eddie's Desire to "Clothesline" Jamie--Unacceptable?: Archive through September 23, 2000

Whatever

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post

Creamynougat- I agree with your statement.

Annah

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Jade888, Creamynougat and Whatever....seems you three account for the most sizeable block of posts on this thread...in spite of the fact that most other posters disagree with your position/viewpoints.

The vast majority of posters seem to feel that you folks have blown this out of proportion...I agree with them.

This Message Board is for fans having a little fun...you are trying to turn it into a Domestic Violence Chat Room...Perhaps you should consider moving to a domestic violence support board....which this is not.

Annah

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post

How to end this thread....hmmmmm....
I pledge to make one call to banish Jamie for each and every posting made by Creamynougat, Jade888 and Whatever on this thread...
so everytime they post AGAIN to say the same points, they will be in fact helping Eddie win it all!

Rozyred

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:49 pm Click here to edit this post

Editing could never change what happened - Eddie threatening Jamie with bodily harm.

Katie

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:53 pm Click here to edit this post

Censorship,threats, blackmail????????

Soweird

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Here's the thing. Do you believe Eddie has sex with midgets? Do you believe Pugita is really the Queen of Brunei? Do you think Eddie would have actually kicked George's ass if he walked out? Why not? He said all those things.

Why do you choose to believe him when he says he "wants to clothesline" Jamie? Sure, it was pretty obvious his joke fell flat, but I saw no evidence that anyone in the house thought it was anything but a joke.

Call his comments unacceptable, unfunny, tasteless, wrong, insensitive, inappropriate, boorish, etc., but don't pretend that he seriously intended to assault Jamie.

Whatever

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:58 pm Click here to edit this post

Annah-


If greater awareness and knowledge about domestic violence were commonplace, there would be less controversy and subsequent need for some of the posts here.

The following obvious suggestions might apply to anyone with your concerns:

If you don't have any interest in this discussion, don't read it.

If you don't have anything to contribute to the discussion, don't post.

Guitarman

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:10 pm Click here to edit this post

No I don't believe Eddie was going to strike Jamie. But Eddie crossed the line.

You don't swing your arm within a few inches of a woman's neck and say you want to break her windpipe. Then do it several times even after it is very clear nobody is laughing.

This incident was not just a bad joke. It says something about the real Eddie. Isn't that what the Eddie fans say, he's so real?

Annah

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever:
Ya-da-ya-da-ya-da

you, creamynougat and jade888 account for 33 posts on this thread...most being redundant rehashes of what you have already posted...

I have no problem with you stating your case....but the repetition is boring...creamynougat leads off her umpteenth post by saying "Not to belabor the point" LOL!

This has turned into a long belabored bore.

33 votes to banish Jamie....it's a game afterall....I have to get some gamesmanship back in here....so I will put up the calls to cover you posts....post away!

Koka

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:37 pm Click here to edit this post

What the whole thing comes down to is that Eddie's behavior has come to be perceived by society as unacceptable. I taught school for six years. Alot of what used to be passed off as "boys will be boys" is now taken very seriously and attended to as quickly as possible. If a male student had treated a female student like that in my class, I would have been expected to report him for sexual harassment, parents would have been called in, reports would have been filed, etc. We're hopefully moving away from a passive blame the victim society to a proactive protective approach.

Creamynougat

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Call his comments unacceptable, unfunny, tasteless, wrong, insensitive, inappropriate, boorish, etc., but don't pretend that he seriously intended to assault Jamie.

I have yet to see anyone claim that Eddie seriously intended to do bodily harm to Jamie. This is another straw man and beside the point.

Yes, I agree that Eddie's behavior was unacceptable, unfunny, tasteless, wrong, insensitive, inappropriate and boorish -- not just his comments but his actions, as well. This is what some of us have been saying all along. Good to see you're coming around. :)

Wendy

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:39 pm Click here to edit this post

I can't believe you guys are still analyzing this to death.

I can just imagine Eddie reading this thread and probably laughing hysterical and saying "This is some funny sh-t!"

Mbliving

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:41 pm Click here to edit this post

Annah, your my hero.

Annah

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:44 pm Click here to edit this post

Creamynougat's post adds another banishment vote for Jamie....up to 34 now.

Creamynougat

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:46 pm Click here to edit this post

This has turned into a long belabored bore.

No one is forcing you to either read or post on this thread. And I do not care how you vote. It's irrelevant -- just as the rest of your arguments have been irrelevant.

Webtvlurker

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie lovers, let this thread die! Eddie haters, this thread has become as boorish as you say Eddie is! Quit beating a dead horse!

Soweird

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:00 pm Click here to edit this post

>I have yet to see anyone claim that Eddie seriously intended to do
>bodily harm to Jamie. This is another straw man and beside the point.

In all seriousness, the only reason I rejoined this unholy thread was because I thought it was unfair for Whatever to repeatedly refer to the incident as "physical aggression". He has now agreed with your posting acknowledging that it wasn't that. Works for me.

>Yes, I agree that Eddie's behavior was unacceptable, unfunny,
>tasteless, wrong, insensitive, inappropriate and boorish -- not just
>his comments but his actions, as well. This is what some of us have
>been saying all along. Good to see you're coming around.

At least that is an opinion based on the facts. I won't bother to try to change that opinion, and I've already stated my own opinion early on in this thread. I'm done.

Tishala

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:05 pm Click here to edit this post

Here is what I can ascertain from this thread, since I have only posted about its relative length [for convenience's sake, this will be in shorthand]:

Eddie=Bad. Mean man
Jamie=Bad. When mean man yells, yell back!
Eddie "Lovers"=Bad. Say mean things like mean man does.
Eddie "Haters"=Bad. Mean man not "mean," only playful!

Annah

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:07 pm Click here to edit this post

Creamynougat:
35....

you have made it clear ad nauseum to all that , like Jamie, the only opinions you believe relevant are your own.

Sad....you have tried to transform something fun into a politically correct diatribe hootenanny...
my point was that there are more appropriate venues on the web if you want a deep hand wringing discussion.

Russ702

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:10 pm Click here to edit this post

unacceptable, tasteless, wrong, inappropriate,

Would all be suitable words to describe any situation the sees Eddie in the last three.

By the way, will the post counters tell us what is deemed to be the appropriate number of posts for any given topic. It ends when people run out of things to say.

Probably want this dropped so the neanderthal man can slide into the big bucks.

Eddieluver

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Tishala = someone that desparately needs a life

Gail

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:14 pm Click here to edit this post

Who votes to have this topic closed?

Tishala

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:16 pm Click here to edit this post

Jeez, some people have NO sense of humor! Wow.

Whatever

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Actually, Eddie's non-verbal communication, even without striking Jamie, is "physical aggression".

Further, if anyone is that hungup about the language, remove Eddie's gestures from the analysis altogether, and the verbally abusive behavior is still unacceptable.

Katie

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:20 pm Click here to edit this post

More censorship? Whatever happened to free speech?