Understanding Curtis

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Suziebird7

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 01:14 pm Click here to edit this post

I was really disappointed in my boy Curtis the last few days of the show, but this morning I started thinking.

When they told each other their noms, Curtis told Josh that he stopped nominating him because he felt close to him, meanwhile Curtis found out that Josh nominated him *every* time and never nominated Eddie. Also, that Eddie nominated Curtis almost every time and never Josh. Those two kept him out of the inner circle of the boys club. That has to hurt, and hurt can look ugly. Curtis initially handled it with his customary humor, but we know from his conversation early on with Britt that the nominations hurt him.

When Jamie was in the house, it probably felt a little more equal, because Curtis had someone who felt close to him. After Jamie left he was odd man out. I can only imagine how painful and uncomfortable that must have been, and I think that the hurt came out as anger when he drank. Especially at Josh, since Eddie apologized for nominating him all those times, and Josh (who Curtis felt close to), didn't seem to have any feeling about it at all.

Not excusing him, I think just understanding how he may have felt.

Jana

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 01:25 pm Click here to edit this post

great insight suziebird! i totally agree with you!

Britisnaive

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 01:42 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with you. But, just to elaborate:

First, they were drunk. Irrational behaviors are to be expected.

Second, Josh actually took some good shots at Curtis that night. He said "Oct 99" like 100 times. Just because Josh seemed inoffensive doesn't mean that Josh was just "taking" Curtis' abuse.

Another thing, Eddie did tell all those racist jokes. People seemed to be okay with that. I may well be true that Curtis just didn't like Josh. At least Curtis didn't dislike people for their skin colour.

Renata

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 01:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Did Curtis apologize to Josh for nominating him? No! His explanation was he didn't feel close to him. Curtis just plain didn't like Josh. Remember how he insinuated that Josh was hiding that he was gay. Towards the end he was so condescending it was painful to watch. Actually I don't know if he just didn't like him or if he was just so jealous of him. The girls were acting up over Josh and not Curtis.

Shoot_Me_Now

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 02:24 pm Click here to edit this post

I think that Curtis was probably one of those geeky guys who got good grades in school but was socially inept. For the first time in his life he was "one of the boys" and didn't have the social "grace" to fit in with that sort of situation. That's why he got along with the girls so well too. He's a non-threat sexually, and is good at getting along with others and being the "nice guy". I am sure he felt uncomfortable with Eddie and Josh.....as they are both great looking and are athletes, and just seem to posess some macho charm.

Britisnaive

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 02:29 pm Click here to edit this post

You think the Pikes would want a geek in the house?

Petunia

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 02:44 pm Click here to edit this post

Suziebird, I was honestly never disappointed in Curtis, and thought he held his tongue fairly well, all things considered (he is a Scorpio...) - but, I do appreciate your insights.

Azlen

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 03:06 pm Click here to edit this post

Another bit of speculation is that Curtis has a thing for Brittany and could be upset because Britt seemed to have a thing for Josh instead of him.

Jayavy

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 03:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Oh, I think everyone is over-analyzing Curtis and the last three days and his relationship with Josh and Eddie.

I saw the live feeds of the drunken party and never saw anything of Curtis being angry or condescending or any such thing. There were three young guys who all had too much to drink. They were acting silly and having fun and jibing each other. Each one gave it and received it. My god, did you hear the unending, filthy harangue that Eddie unleased upon Josh! They were releasing tension, all three of them. As a witness to the scene, I first laughed and then became disappointed in the actions of all three guys--that happens when you're the only sober one with a bunch of drunks. I suppose we could hold Curtis to a higher standard, since he's a few years older than the other two, but I think he was just going along with the moment.

And yes, Eddie and Josh had formed a close bond that excluded Curtis, but I don't think there was any animosity toward Curtis or held by Curtis toward the other two. Sometime during the last few days, Josh even told Curtis that he felt that Curtis was the glue that held the house together (or words to that effect).

My opinion of Curtis remains high based on three months of his intelligent, fair, caring, witty, entertaining actions--not three days of celebrating.

Dpmd

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 04:31 pm Click here to edit this post

My opinion of Curtis rmains as high as ever. He is a nice guy. I hope he does well in as a lawyer.

Webrover9

Saturday, September 30, 2000 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post

My opinion of Curtis is just as high as it has always been. You do not erase almost three months of respect for someone because of three days of "frat behavior"! He will have a great future. No wonder I like him, he's a Scorpio!