Archive through September 09, 2000

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Fifi

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:08 am Click here to edit this post

Just one more post...

Josh told Curtis that if/when he finds out on sunday, he'll probably keep it to himself...

Curt says that it just mystifies him not knowing.

Curt: do you think Megaphone Lady is telling the truth?

Josh: Curtis you are a smart guy...think about time frames...think about the banners...and you'll know everything I know

Josh: let me ask you first...don't you think our opinions of HGs now should be based on everything we know from here?

Curt: I don't know....well CMG lady has said some horrible things about George...but what I see of George is nice.

Curt: but then again....what you are saying about what you know will change the dynamics of the house? But are you saying that the dynamics of the house are half truths...if you have info that renders everything here to be lies..

Josh: I don't...there isn't anything I've seen here that make it seem like a lie.

Curt: but what you do know think will affect everyone here?

Josh: yes..

Curt: interesting

(ed. sorry, they were talking too fast)

Josh: no one has been lied here

Curt: I'm torn...I mean I don't think there has been any lies here but I don't know if I trust your judgement.

Josh: they asked me in the redroom if you ever kept secrets...i've kept a secret about my friend...will never tell anyone about it...will take it to my grave..

(ed. dang, did anybody else catch this conversation??)

Fifi

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:10 am Click here to edit this post

Josh: they (BB) asked me, would you feel better if you just told one person? I said no..I'd feel like I'm favoring one person...I could never do that...

BB: Houseguests...it's curfew time (ed. btw, it's only Josh and Curtis in the LR)

Curtis joking that they wanted that last scene of Curtis pressuring Josh for info..

Now they get up to get ready for bed....

(ed. if anyone here can fill in the blanks of this convo, please do!!! I missed some stuff I'm sure of it!)

Fifi

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:14 am Click here to edit this post

Josh and Curtis in bathroom area.

Curt: Sorry if it seems like I'm badgering you.

Josh: that's okay...when you come back on sunday..take your time...(ed. missed some of it)

Now they are getting ready for bed...

Jamie is still up....says goodnight to JOsh and Curtis (gives Josh and looooong hug!)

(ed. Okay, now I will go to bed....maybe Curt and JOsh will talk in the boys room??? hope someone is up tonight!)

Noslonna

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post

1:05 AM
[.. Coming in to the tail end of BB voice telling them it was past curfew or something like that but they asked a question and are not getting up from couch.]

Josh, Curtis, George and Jamie in LR in mid-conversation...
Josh tells Curtis he "is a smart guy." Tells him he could figure it out before Sunday. He gives him a hint... tells him to put together all the banner messages and he will "know as much as him."
Curt mulls this over. Asks if he knows if all megaphone ladys messages have been the truth.
Josh says peoples opinions change over time, even ML's. Josh explains why he doesnt want to tell. He asks if Curtis agrees that everything in the house should be based on what they do know.. about George and other things. Curtis says he trusts Josh... not sure if he trusts his judgement. Josh says he can trust him on this one. He reassures them it is nothing that can hurt them. Josh compares it to keeping a secret that only he knows about a friend and after 5 years he still hasnt told and will take it to the grave with him. Josh says, "a secret is only a secret as long as a person keeps it a secret."
If you tell someone a secret its no longer a secret.. Curt chuckles and says, "yeah but you are only defining a word." Josh agrees it was only "semantics" Curtis considers thoughtfully and does not comment too much more. The serious moment is broken with some light-hearted jokes about their little funny pug and they finish up the last swallows of beer, and head towards the bathroom.

Lawyerman

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:18 am Click here to edit this post

(I can't believe no one is covering this. I hope someone besides me is.)

I'll backtrack later.

Josh is telling Curtis that the dynamic of the house should be based on what's going on in the house. Curtis is trying to pry out information from Josh. Jamie is listening. Curtis says if Josh has information that they're living in a lie, that might not be a good thing to withhold that information.

Backtracking a bit. Josh says that Curtis is capable of figuring things out for himself. Curtis knows or thinks he knows the secret has to do with CMG and/or the planes. Josh says something like, "Even CMG or the planes can change their minds."

Backtracking even earlier: When George was in the room, he asked Josh 2-3 times if what Josh knows is good or bad. Josh says that its good, but can affect the house dynamic if revealed at this time. But when they get out of the house, they'll laugh about it and understand.

Back to the present. Josh is pleading with Curtis to trust his judgment in not telling. Curtis says that he trusts Josh, but doesn't necessarily trust Josh's judgment on this point. Josh also mentions that Curtis may find out when he leaves the house to go to the Emmys, and if he (Curtis) does, he thinks Curtis will probably make the same decision as he not to tell.

BB gives the HG a second curfew warning. BB gave them a first warning somewhere in the middle of this conversation. After the second warning, Curtis says, BB probably just wanted to get more footage of this conversation - me pressuring you into telling your secret. Josh, "Probably. BB thinks they can get some beers in me and watch me reveal my secret." (Ed - Heh!)

(OK, that's what I can cover. The flow of the conversation as described above is, as I said, disjointed because I didn't know if anyone was covering this and I wanted to make sure I caught what was going presently as well as in the recent past.)

Noslonna

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:19 am Click here to edit this post

...To add to my last post above, at one point George and Jamie must have left because they were there when I first tuned in but gone when Josh and Curtis left the LR

Room_101

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:20 am Click here to edit this post

(ed: I missed some of it too)

Jamie came lurking down the hallway and joined them half way in to the conversation.. sits on the couch and stays silent.

(ed: just wanted to add that)

Voyeur

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:22 am Click here to edit this post

fifi, you did a darn fine job. I was glued to the monitor, I've never managed to actually catch any of the real good stuff myself, so I sure didn't want to miss this.

I would add though that Curtis said, "I trust you (meaning Josh) but I don't know if I trust your judgement."

They also think that CMG is responsible for all the banners. Josh said something about your (the rhetorical your) opinion of people changes all the time, even CMG's opinion changes over time, and he stressed the timeline of the banners. I think he was trying to hint that CMG said bad things about George in the beginning (thinking that CMG flew the anti-George banners), but now (since they think CMG said, "We love George") CMG has changed her opinion.

Oooh, there's a good quote. Josh asked Curtis, "Have you ever met people, that in the beginning you hated them the most, and over time, you come to like them the most?" Then Mrs. S butted in and told them to go to sleep. Curtis said no he hadn't ever felt that way, and (funny voice) asked if that had anything to do with him. Mrs. S is riding them hard to get to sleep, she should be getting off their butts because Josh is drunk and really opening up to Curtis.

Fifi

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:23 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie corners Josh in kitchen while Josh is sweeping.

Jamie: so you told Curtis that you don't think that the info you know would change Curtis if he knew...do you think it would change me?

Josh: (thinks for a few seconds)..I don't know..

Now Jamie goes to bed.

Jamie talks to Cass: Josh was just talking about the thing and said that Curtis wouldn't change if he found out...asked him if it would change me....and he said he didnt' know.

Cass: I do trust each of them....and I really don't want to see the house upset...I think it's important to keep the house okay....if Curtis knows...it puts them under stress too...I'm sure JOsh is going through stress knowing but not telling anybody. Have they been asking you about it in the redroom?

Jamie: not today


F1/F2 of Cass/Jamie in girls room

F3/F4 of Josh and Curtis in kitchen..

Curtis gets drink of water

Josh: have you ever met ppl in your life that in first impression you hated at first but then liked?

Curt: I've met ppl that I've hated but then learned to respect..

BB: Josh and Curtis, go to bed

Jamie and Cass still talking in girls room..


Jamie saying that the more you know the more an advantage you have....

Cass: my feeling is that it's something that will come out.

Jamie: I thought that with the banners that it might mean that George is high in the polls.

Cass: but look what that did to Brit. It could be an advantage or not...don't know how the polls work.

Josh and Curtis have gone to bed now...

Cass: Megaphone girl knows what it is...if it's that big or important, she'll let us know what it is.

Jamie: it's interesting that ML wants us to know with banners and stuff but she hasn't told us.

Now they've stopped talking...will post (ed. I keep saying I'm going to bed but I'm not!!)

Room_101

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:27 am Click here to edit this post

At the DR... Curtis and Josh gets a drink of water.. Jamie is gone to her BR.

Josh: "have you come across a person you hated when you meet them and you end up liking soo much and respecting them in the end?"

Curtis: (paraphrase) "huh, why?.. well, no..I have ended up respecting a person a lot that I didn't like"

Josh: "Well, this happens to me all the time.. its a life lesson."

(ed: seems like they were going to go in to a deeper convo when..)

BB Sexy Bedtime Voice "Curtis, Josh please go to bed."

(ed: ARgghhh)

Kalihiwahine

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 01:39 am Click here to edit this post

Josh & Curtis were in kitchen and Josh asked Curtis if he ever really didn't like someone when he first met the person and then ended up liking that person the best.

Curtis said, "well, not really liking the best"..josh did not go any further...

bb announced it was time to go to bed, so curtis and josh said their goodnites to each other

cam went to the pool area where josh was just sitting himself poolside, when BB announced, "Josh, it's time to go to bed"....

Josh reluctantly walked back in, a few words to curtis...and they both went into men's bedroom.

Lawyerman

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 02:01 am Click here to edit this post

F3/F4 Josh is in the kitchen with his head down on the table - looking torn.

F1/F2 Jamie and Cass are talking. Cass is telling Jamie to be prepared in case she leaves. She mentions that there are secrets she would tell Jamie but not others - like the fact that she saw a doctor today.

(Ugh!) Even though the lights are out, BB tells Jamie and Cass to go to bed. At this same time, Josh's head pops up. (Did BB tell him to go to bed too?) He gets himself up and goes to bed.

(Ed - Yet another lost opportunity for good paranoia discussion and BB screws it up!)

Lowfreakwency

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 02:04 am Click here to edit this post

Whoa! There's movement! Josh went to the bathroom and ran into Jaimie in the hall... they hugged, and he said something like:
"Don't stress about---" (ed: sorry couldn't hear. no mics). He went to the kitchen and laid his head down on the table for 5 min until the BB lady told him to hit the sack. Looks like he listened.

Noslonna

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 04:40 am Click here to edit this post

2:10 AM - 4:30 AM
HG have had a quiet slumber. Almost no snoring and only a few wheezy breathing sounds for the last 2 1/2 hrs. Around 3 AM I heard a small repetitive noise from the boys room and it sounded a lot like someone chuckling for a few seconds in their sleep! I peered closed at the screen but couldn't detect which male made the noise. At about 4 AM, Eddie raised up slightly and rolled over with a groan, adjusted his coverings, tried to get comfortable, then became still again.

That's all I could see or hear during these early hours.

Gail

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 06:39 am Click here to edit this post

Just because no one has posted for a while . . . On the quad cam, all four bedrooms are dark. Everyone is sleeping.

Luckiegirl

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:04 am Click here to edit this post

my first time, yea!
8:04 a.m. all houseguests fast asleep.

Kalmia

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:11 am Click here to edit this post

F1&F2 - Jamie and pug sleeping in the lovebed.

F3&F4 - Cass up at the kitchen sink.. washing something. Looks like she's making coffee. Now she's headed outside, groans and sighs little. Back inside working at the counter.

Heard an off cam voice, maybe George, asking if anyone else was up. Cass didn't respond or appear to have even heard the voice.

Cass continues to work on clean up routines. No sign of whoever it was that called out.

Downehill

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:28 am Click here to edit this post

George just came out of RR, is in LR looking at BB Manual (I think) and just sighed and said "What an idiot!".....then leaned back, looks definately worried or upset and says "It was there all the time". Now going into BR, putting on belt.

Leaves BR, goes outside...asks Cass "how are the ladies doing" Cass says "ok", now Cass talking
to chickens...saying one of em is out.

George bawking and talking...gonna post...anyone else hear George earlier with BB manual?

Downehill

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:35 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie is up...George says "Good Morning Hollywood", she says GM and asks how George is, didnt hear his reply.

He then tells Jamie there is hot water. Jamie to w/c and now in shower. Curtis just got up and in w/c. Jamie calls out of shower, George? oh Curtis .... good morning.

Jamie asks Curtis if he wants a hot shower, he says No he is going to lay down for a bit more. Curtis back in bed.

Josh asks Curtis what time is it, around 8:30 ...he says yeah.

Boys are laughing about what a way to start a day...think someone farted. Now all laughing, can't understand what they are saying.

Kalmia

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:47 am Click here to edit this post

(ed. Damn, lost my post)

Anyway, mystery voice turned out to be George in the shower. He called out again and Cass told him that they were the only ones up.

George gets out of the shower and heads to the RR. Cass goes to wake up Jamie because she also wanted a hot shower.

George gets out of RR and sits in LR with BB manual.

Cass & George go outside to check on chickens and see about eggs.

George goes inside for chicken feed, says good morning to Hollywood and Chiquita.

George & Cass back outside with the chickens.

Just saw Curtis? on the quad cam going into the w/c.

Yes, its Curtis. Jamie asks if he's headed to the shower but Curtis says he's going to go back to bed for a while.

George says to Cassandra he had the best sleep he's ever had in the house. He does appear to be in a good mood.

Curtis back in the men's room. Eddie is stirring. Josh, Eddie and Curtis are all laughing in there. It appears to be more farting humor.

George back in the house with the BB manual. (ed. He's been spending a lot of time with that book the last few days.)

George called to RR for batteries. He brings them into the boys room.

G: Batteries boys… and hot water for a little bit.

E: Hardon… for a little bit. (laughter)

George leaves to find Jamie's mic to change batteries.

Jo: I almost lost my lunch last night

E: How many did you have?

Jo: Six

E: Wuss

George has gone back to the BB manual. Cass is still outside and Jamie in the shower (I'm guessing - no cams) and the 'trusted trio' are in the boys room.

Teemo

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:53 am Click here to edit this post

George is walking all around the house whispering to himself things like "I figured it out! Son of a •••••! It was here all along and it took so damn long, but I finally figured it out."

Now he told Cassandra, he figured it out, but he's not going to tell her until 10 a.m.

G: "The 40 year old man with the high school education figured it out! It was there all along!"

Ca: Okay, you got a date at 10!

Cdnchick1

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:55 am Click here to edit this post

George and Cass outside.

Geo: I figured it out! A man with a high school education and I figured it out! It was there all along! I'll tell you at 10 o'clock.

Cass: Ok George, you got a date.

He'd been reading the BB handbook. (ed- what was it he was "looking for"? And why 10 o'clock?)

Downehill

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:55 am Click here to edit this post

Cass and George outside watering garden.

Cass "I was telling Jamie last night that we just aren't processing the information correctly"

George says "I figured it out, it's been there since the beginning....the man with the HS education has figured it out, but I'm not gonna tell you until 10:00, gonna tell everyone then (?)

Cass "alright, George you got a date"

(ed. please someone cover this supposed revelation by George, I won't be here :-( )

Now George is whispering...just heard him say "Yes, F*** I figured it out"

Teemo

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 08:59 am Click here to edit this post

George continues pacing around house, from kitchen to living room and back again and again. Now outside again.

Ca: Laundry day for me today. Chiquita has been doing these massive poop jobs. Hopefully that cream cheese is out of her system now. (ed: sorry, I just report, I don't make it up)

Ca: You know that was a nice evening last night, we haven't done that in a while.

Ge: Yeah that was very enjoyable

Ca: Definitely was.

Cass is filling red tubs with water.


Ca: I scraped my arm in the chicken coop. Do I have to worry about antiseptic and all that? It's just a little scrape, I didn't even break the skin.

George examines Cass' arm.

Jan

Saturday, September 09, 2000 - 09:01 am Click here to edit this post

OMG no one is posting and I'm a rookie!

Paraphrasing last few minutes -- George is frantic -- walking around the house whispering to himself. He goes out to tell Cass the he 'figured it out' -- we are all winners. Just a high school graduate 40 something and he was the one to see that they are all winners. He is going to explain to all HG's at 10 BBT