Archive through August 16, 2000

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Adige

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie explains how she felt about nominating Karen. She is talking about how everyone reacts when nominated. She talks about the fact that Julie talked about told who nominated Karen. Talking about how knowing who you voted for changes the whole dynamics. Cass says that you can not trust BB with their secrets. Brit says that you never know and she could not count the times that Karen told her that she knew that Brit or Jamie did not vote for her and she was wrong.
Jamies says that all we are doing is saying two names and the public decides. They can not let it affect them.

Laurie

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Group all still in LR talking about plan to go forward. They are setting rules amongst themselves as to what they need to do to eliminate stress and get through.

Jamie- talking about nominating Karen and how bad she has felt all week... and how Karen told her in the garden she wanted to go. Says this was the toughest week of all of them. Jamie talking about Karen knowing that she nominated her.

Curtis - saying it was killing him that Karen thought it was him. And how forgiving people are when they get back to the real world.

Jamie - talking about feeling like she could have told Karen she nominated her... but it would have made other people think who had nominated them.

Cass - Can't trust BB to protect confidentiality.

Britt - Thinks good to show that they never know who it was that nominated them. (Like they should all learn from it)

Jamie - talking about how it killed her to see Karen think it was other people.

Curtis - talking about eveyone's standards different for picking people.

Eddie - again says how people were asking him... asking him well, what did he base his choices on.

Jamie - talking about what they say in the RR affecting people.

Hope this makes sense... they are talking fast... and saying alot..

Cass- saying they need to make the stress as small on each other as possible.

Jamie - talking about not having power except how they react to one another.

Posting....

Teecee

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Watching the live feeds - F1 - continuation of the conversation all the HGs were having as the live show came to an end (hopefully someone recorded that and can transcribe)

Eddie and Curtis have been talking about how everyone has to agree on a policy of not talking OR asking about nominations. Curtis brings up as an example that Karen gave him a lot of crap - now admitting that he did NOT vote for Karen. He admits that he would have loved to tell her and get himself off the hook, but that would have put everyone else that much more on the hook (his words). Now JAMIE talks about how she did vote for Karen - now saying that if she had told Karen, then it would have messed up everyone else thinking that she had voted for someone else.

Curtis mentions (at an earlier point in the convo) that Josh and Cassandra dealt with the nomination really well - subtly (or not so subtly) leaving out Karen...

Jamie makes the point that with only "eight" (sic) people left, even one person going on about nominations can change the whole dynamic.

Pretty much everyone agrees about not talking about nominations - Cass, George most vocal. (Brit not saying much). George says that with already half of the time gone, everyone left is already a winner (the next person to go will have lasted 2/3rds of the time). Subject changes to how much they should study for the interstate challenge and dinner - posting...

Karen

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:11 pm Click here to edit this post

Now they have decided not to put a great effort into this weeks challenge. Just enough not to lose 50%. Curtis says he will try hard but won't fault anyone who misses the question. They agree that it is next to impossible to memorize them all. Its been a tough week and they don't think a day is enough to cram.

Phantommenace

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:13 pm Click here to edit this post

Forgot one comment that Karen said from the studio to the houseguests "Josh, stay close to Brittany, but not too close!!" Everyone laughed.
Back to the present, Cassandra says 7 is a small group. Everyone looks around. Curtis changes the subject and asks how much effort should they put into the Highway challenge. They decide that it was a tough week and the blame will be placed on no one if they fail the weekly challenge.
Brittany says she will miss her pats on the head at night before she goes to bed.
The group decides on what to eat for the Bimonthly Post Banishment Dinner. Brittany asks Josh what does it feel like to expect to be banished, but not be voted out. He says it's a feeling of mixed relief and guilt that someone else left.

Jana

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:14 pm Click here to edit this post

everyone milling about the LR and kitchen.....Ed and Curt discussing food....they are all freaking about food (missing Karen already?)....they have 10 or 11 chicken legs and thats not enough....they have ground beef, so ed can fire up the grill for burgers...no they will save it for taco's tomorrow...brit will just have cereal...george will make potatoes.....Brit and Josh sit very close....Jamie seems distraught..Brit asks Josh what it feels like to be nominated and then not go....he doesn't know how to explain it......he is also very pensive.....too many conversations to keep up....i know ed and cass are talking about karen....curt talking about karen's hubby being there.....(side note: if you didnt see the show, Karen seemed truly happy to see her hubby and they seemed close) curt says he is prolly a good hubby for someone, but just not for her.....ok, i need a minute to take this all in i hope someone else will post!

Phantommenace

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:16 pm Click here to edit this post

The conversation move to Karens husband. Curtis says that to hear her be happy was great. Some say they were surprised that he showed up after all that's happened and all the bad things that Karen said about him. Josh reminds the group that there are two sides to every coin and that they have only heard Karens version of the story, not her husbands.

Teecee

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:18 pm Click here to edit this post

Just wanted to point out one thing about the live show - when Tom Fowler walked into the studio, they only hugged at first. Finally Karen looked at him, he audibly said "it's all right" and they kissed very quickly on the lips. (Guess she was right about him hating to kiss -ed.)

F1
in LR, Brit now complimenting Curtis on how he handled Karen accusing him. Curtis joking about how he has to 'master baste' tonight because the week has been so hard. Curtis does mention that every time there's been a banishment, it's been the right choice for the house. (No kidding -ed) Cass, Eddie, George going about in kitchen setting up dinner - hamburger. Switching feeds to cover them...

Phantommenace

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:23 pm Click here to edit this post

George said that he told Karen that when she gets out, there would possibly be some changes in her husband for the better. Eddie says he hopes he's treating her right. Eddie, Cass, and George prepare the ritualistic dinner while Curtis hunts for the dog. George asks he wonders how long did it take for Karen to get a smoke. Eddie said that if her kids are any good, they'd have one ready for her.

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Teecee

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:25 pm Click here to edit this post

F4
Eddie and Cass in kitchen - Eddie doing something at sink, Cass sitting at table. Now Curtis walks in. Sounds like chicken and cucumber salad (for those dying to know what to eat tonight). George at the oven. Rotten cabbage goes to the chickens.

Now George and Cass talking about Karen. Cass thinks that Karen can make whatever decision (about her husband) that she needs to. Now Curtis is helping. Cass mentions to George and Curtis that in her life, she's usually the one who's going - on an adventure or whatever. It's strange being the one not banished or going away.

George mentions again that there "sure was a big crowd out there tonight". (This has been at least the third time I've seen George mention that -ed) Now they're joking about the fourth they need for cards. Cass says she doesn't hate cards, but she's not passionate about it (implying like Curtis?)

Teecee

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:31 pm Click here to edit this post

F4
Cass, Curtis, and George at the ktichen table, Eddie still messing around at the sink (washing dishes??). Still talking about cards...Sloshy plays sometimes...Brit has played it but has no "love for the game"...George says he likes it b/c you get to start thinking, from counting cards. He likes the strategy. Ed plays poker and sh*t, but only for money - what can he play for here, nominations? (funny) They agree again that it was "cool" for Karen to get banished. (I'm getting kicked off every few minutes...hope the other ppl are having better luck... -ed)

Penguin

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:32 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm on camera 2. This is Jamie and Britt in the girls bedroom talking about the nominations. Jamie is really upset that Julie allowed Karen to speak back to the house and make it clear that she knew who voted for her. Britt is reassuring Jamie that she did the right thing. They are both angry about being told how many nominations everyone has, and they don't think the banished person should be told who voted for them after they leave.

Ender

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:34 pm Click here to edit this post

Brit and Jamie in room talking about nominations (ed. so much for Eddies speech). Jamie upset over Julie Chen letting Karen tell everyone Jamie nominated karen.

Paranoia setting in.

Brit trying to figure out who voted for her again.

Again Jamie can't believe Karen was allowed to say what she said.

Brit talking about being in RR and if they had a chance to change votes and she said she would vote for George. Then after fear of BB releasing RR confessions she told George what she said.

Jamie hopes they show the Garden, Karen bawling. (the reason Jamie voted for Karen).

Jamie can't understand why Karen was pissed at Curtis for voting for her when she had voted for Curtis.

Brit saying she did the right thing (Jamie voting for Karen)

Ender

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:39 pm Click here to edit this post

Brit mad that Eddie said people approached him about nominations cause she never had anyone approach her. She also said she didn't approach Eddie.

Only 7 people in house how could 4 approach him (???)

Brit and Jamie defending themselves against what Eddie said.

Brit: he (Eddie) told me he never voted for me. It surprised me, I never asked him. I think he did vote for me.

Really

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:40 pm Click here to edit this post

feed 1 - Jamie and Brit talking about her nomination being aired by Karen on the live show tonight. Jamie is expressing how it disturbs her. Brit tells Jamie she thinks Jam was right in not telling Karen about her voting for her.

Brit thinks its weird about what Eddie said about what he said earlier in dealing with the nominations. Their discussing what they think he meant by it....
Brit says she has a soft spot for him (Ed)

Teecee

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:41 pm Click here to edit this post

(Gavrina - it was the same letter that Tom had read during an earlier studio show. Stuff about being damned to love one who walks in darkness and light - his love being cold and harsh - could probably find it on the BB2000 website if nowhere else. -ed)

F1
Brit and Jamie in the girls room
Brit thinks it's funny about how Ed said four ppl had come up to him. Jamie admits she was another one. Brit is somewhat mad - said she questioned their friendship not his vote. (does this make sense to anyone else? -ed) Brit points out there are only seven ppl - can figure out who voted for anyone. Jamie says she told Eddie it was okay if he did. Brit had a conversation with Eddie about voting but never - she leaves off. Now quieter - she was talking to E, he wouldn't say either way. So it very well could have been E who voted for Brit and Jamie. Brit admits she has a soft spot for him - Jamie says she does too - but Brit realizes he is playing the game and who knows. Brit says it's not possible to just nominate those who nom'd you because you don't know. Brit points out that if Jamie hadn't voted for Karen, she wouldn't have been marked but "you can't think about it that way". Brit says she thought she could keep nom'ing the same ppl again, but didn't do that w/Curtis. Brit says she wouldn't nom Jamie and Karen but she did consider nom'ing Karen when she (Karen) said she wanted to go home.

Brit says it is weird that Josh is still here. Jamie agrees. Brit whispering - very hard to get it.

Penguin

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie: why would she be pissed at Curtis when she voted for him?
britt: I didn't get that either.
[lots of talk about Karen changing]
Britt: I was going to vote for her the next time for all those reasons (ed: Karen missing her kids, pleading to leave, going negative after the nomination)
Britt: I don't like the non-Karen side that I saw, and I think you were right in not telling her. Now there's two people in the house who know that Curtis voted for them.

Britt: You know what was weird about what Eddie said, you know nobody has approached me about what my votes were.
Jamie: Me neither.
Britt: I was questioning his friendship, not his vote. I never asked him if he voted for me.
Jamie: he came up to me a few days ago and said that you asked, said that four people asked.
Britt: I'm trying to remember now, lot of kiding around
Jamie: I told him I didn't care if he did, didn't affect anything
[they whisper]
Jamie: That surprised me too
Britt: yeah, and he said 'I'd never vote for my girls' and I said whatever (ed dunno who they're talking about)
Jamie: once in a while I get a glimmer of something in him that I really like, a soft spot
britt: one thing's clear in this game that you can't nominate who you think is going to nominate you because you won't know!
[quiet]
b: one thing I've decided is that I'm not going to think until the day before who my next two is going to be. had thought I would keep nominating the same person but I totally changed my mind about Curtis - oh, I'm talking about it and totally shouldn't be -
J; I was doing that too until what happened [with Karen]
b: yeah, if you came to me and said "britt, I want to go home". If you asked me to, I'd nominate you.
[pause]
B; So weird knowing that josh is still here. Today' was a really weird day.
[talking about josh now, gonna post this, sorry it's so disjointed!]
j: gotta do what you feel is right, you have more independence, making your decisions based on you, makes more sense
b: was talking to curtis today, he said it must be hard having feeligns for josh and him not having feelings for you, feelings for jamie, if he stays how will I handle it
j: talks about how karen was telling people about josh's feelings after bbq, have to trust yourself about whether you want Karen's version or Josh's version. have to be independent and trust your own intuition. be smart about it and understand what he's said
b: he talks about in house, after house, it's confusing...
{ed- more of same old josh confusion, really posting this time!}

Battlestar

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:44 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie says you have to decide whether to believe Karen's version or Josh's version. Now she can be independent in her decisions now that Karen is gone.

Still obsessing over Josh--Britt says that she changes her mind just as many times as Josh but she verbalizes it

Penguin

Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 07:49 pm Click here to edit this post

Enough people on Britt/Jamie, who are wandering between voting and Karen and Josh.
Britt: I don't know how to stick with a decision when I don't feel control. It'd be so easy in the real world. I'd never ever ever stick around, never dated someone I had a class with, and co-worker, a friend...
j: so hard in this house, have to be at peace with who you are. Make your decision, Britt! It's a tough one. Do you feel like your intuition is strong enough to make this choice?
b: Nope. seems like the feelings I have are warped by this house. I'm like 'what in the hell are you talking about'?
[pause]
b: I think you did the right thing with Karen.

(ed - this is where I came in, I'm out.,...)