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Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:32 pm  You have just entered room “The Bowl” OnlineHost: Remember, your comments are seen only by other members of your row. AOL LIVE: come in here, so if we get a AOL LIVE: chance to talk to them about AOL LIVE: kissing you, I will do whatever AOL LIVE: I can. AOL LIVE: Karen: Just for a joke. AOL LIVE: Host: Next question -- who is AOL LIVE: your favorite house guest? AOL LIVE: Karen: That's probably so AOL LIVE: obvious. AOL LIVE: I love Bret. AOL LIVE: But it's like 100% all-American AOL LIVE: girl. AOL LIVE: She is just an awesome lady. MrLiveGuy: Brit AOL LIVE: She is kind. AOL LIVE: She is everything her out-- AOL LIVE: everything her outward AOL LIVE: appearance. AOL LIVE: People have these ideas about AOL LIVE: people. AOL LIVE: She has green hair now. AOL LIVE: She's wonderful. AOL LIVE: Host: Wasn't it great when your AOL LIVE: daughter sent you the letter, AOL LIVE: then they actually said how much AOL LIVE: they liked her? AOL LIVE: Was that a great moment for you AOL LIVE: and her? AOL LIVE: Karen: It was, because I loved AOL LIVE: Brit. AOL LIVE: I noticed my kids accepted her. AOL LIVE: If my kids like my friends, they AOL LIVE: must be good. AOL LIVE: It's going to be the opposite, AOL LIVE: where the mom is always AOL LIVE: dictating who her kids run AOL LIVE: around with. AOL LIVE: It's important for me for my AOL LIVE: kids to like the people I run AOL LIVE: around with, as well. AOL LIVE: William was here. AOL LIVE: He actually said he didn't want AOL LIVE: to keep in touch with anybody AOL LIVE: after the show was over. AOL LIVE: Now, I'm wondering is Brittany AOL LIVE: somebody you think you'd keep in AOL LIVE: touch with now that you're out AOL LIVE: of the house? AOL LIVE: Karen: I'd like to keep in touch AOL LIVE: with everybody. AOL LIVE: I really -- we all went through AOL LIVE: something really stressful AOL LIVE: together, that is like AOL LIVE: unbelievable, and I think AOL LIVE: they're all -- you know, people AOL LIVE: -- it's so funny, I talked to my AOL LIVE: family and my mom has her AOL LIVE: opinions about all these AOL LIVE: different people and my friends AOL LIVE: do as well. AOL LIVE: And they don't realize because AOL LIVE: we went through such a difficult AOL LIVE: time together, we are bonded. AOL LIVE: There's a part of us that, you AOL LIVE: know, we can relate to one AOL LIVE: another. AOL LIVE: And there are people I liked, AOL LIVE: but, you know, they weren't my AOL LIVE: best friends and they probably AOL LIVE: never will be my best friends. AOL LIVE: But I have a lot of respect for AOL LIVE: them because this really took a AOL LIVE: strong person to stay even just AOL LIVE: a little bit that I did. AOL LIVE: These people are going to be AOL LIVE: there longer. AOL LIVE: This is funny, Jordan was only AOL LIVE: there for, you know, four weeks, AOL LIVE: but Jordan, we had our AOL LIVE: differences and we resolved AOL LIVE: them, I believe, but I have a AOL LIVE: lot of respect for her, as well. AOL LIVE: I'm anxious to see her again. AOL LIVE: Host: Well, you nominated josh AOL LIVE: and Cassandra, then there they AOL LIVE: were nominated along with you. AOL LIVE: You know, that must have been an AOL LIVE: interesting moment. AOL LIVE: But if you were still in the AOL LIVE: house, wajama 11 asks who would AOL LIVE: you have nominated in the coming AOL LIVE: weeks? AOL LIVE: Would that have stayed the same? AOL LIVE: Karen: Oh, probably -- it AOL LIVE: probably would have been AOL LIVE: Cassandra again. AOL LIVE: It's not because I didn't like AOL LIVE: her. AOL LIVE: I liked Cassandra. AOL LIVE: The personality of the house, AOL LIVE: the way it was, I felt like it AOL LIVE: was, you know, lighter and, you AOL LIVE: know, she was probably good AOL LIVE: because she really kept the AOL LIVE: house stable. AOL LIVE: So I guess I didn't want stable. AOL LIVE: Host: Kind of interesting, there AOL LIVE: was a poll on AOL recently and AOL LIVE: 33% said Cassandra would AOL LIVE: probably be the next person AOL LIVE: voted out of the house. AOL LIVE: Karen: I guess that -- I think AOL LIVE: people see that. AOL LIVE: You know, she does try. AOL LIVE: She tries to get crazy with us AOL LIVE: because it's part of it. AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" has always given AOL LIVE: things to her that stretches AOL LIVE: her, and she does it. AOL LIVE: She's a good sport. AOL LIVE: Host: This has got to be hard to AOL LIVE: narrow down, but L.H.M. -- AOL LIVE: L.M.H. dancer says what is your AOL LIVE: favorite memory from the house? AOL LIVE: Karen: This is silly, but the AOL LIVE: thing that really -- I know AOL LIVE: people, I don't know what they AOL LIVE: said on-line if they ever said AOL LIVE: anything about chickens, but AOL LIVE: those chickens were an escape AOL LIVE: from reality for me. AOL LIVE: They were my pets, my cat, my AOL LIVE: dog, anything, you know. AOL LIVE: They -- AOL LIVE: Host: Your cigarettes. AOL LIVE: That was so funny when George AOL LIVE: said, you're going to actually AOL LIVE: smoke the chicken now, aren't AOL LIVE: you? AOL LIVE: Karen: I would never do that to AOL LIVE: those chickens. AOL LIVE: And that really wasn't that bad. AOL LIVE: I thought I was going to go stir AOL LIVE: crazy, but that worked, too. AOL LIVE: Host: Isn't it kind of weird to AOL LIVE: have you listen to me sort of AOL LIVE: talk about all these AOL LIVE: experiences, and you didn't see AOL LIVE: any of us watch this along with AOL LIVE: you? AOL LIVE: Are you surprised by the AOL LIVE: intimacy? AOL LIVE: Karen: You know what surprises AOL LIVE: me the most, because in the AOL LIVE: house we speculated whether or AOL LIVE: not anybody's even watching us. AOL LIVE: We figure whenever big brother AOL LIVE: gives us something special, they AOL LIVE: must be doing OK. AOL LIVE: Then it got to the point where AOL LIVE: big brother was only giving us AOL LIVE: rump roast and pancake batter AOL LIVE: and pancake syrup. AOL LIVE: And you're like, must not be AOL LIVE: doing too well. AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another AOL LIVE: question. AOL LIVE: Skateboarder 5577 says, Karen, AOL LIVE: do you miss the dog that was in AOL LIVE: the house? AOL LIVE: That's Chiquita. AOL LIVE: You were asked to bring in the AOL LIVE: new house guest. AOL LIVE: You guessed who it was. AOL LIVE: Karen: Maybe I'm wrong, but I AOL LIVE: think they thought I was ready AOL LIVE: to collapse mentally. AOL LIVE: I know they did this in some of AOL LIVE: the other "Big Brother" houses, AOL LIVE: but the timing couldn't have AOL LIVE: been better. AOL LIVE: I called her Pugsly and AOL LIVE: Chiquita. AOL LIVE: She really helped me. AOL LIVE: It was almost like it was OK for AOL LIVE: me to sit and read because I was AOL LIVE: taking care of the family dog. AOL LIVE: It was nice to have her on my AOL LIVE: lap. AOL LIVE: She was good to me. AOL LIVE: She responded really well. AOL LIVE: Host: Did she get along with the AOL LIVE: chickens? AOL LIVE: Karen: No. Lazy but Crazy08: (118) hi karen AOL LIVE: That bothered me. AOL LIVE: No, she big ap agnes -- no, she AOL LIVE: bit Agnes. AOL LIVE: Everybody else thought it was AOL LIVE: funny because they didn't like AOL LIVE: the chickens, except Fred. AOL LIVE: I'm worried about the chickens AOL LIVE: now. AOL LIVE: Host: Maybe Brittany will take AOL LIVE: care of them. AOL LIVE: Joe D.-fm says how do you think AOL LIVE: Brittany will get along without AOL LIVE: threw? AOL LIVE: Karen: I hope she does well. AOL LIVE: I love her. AOL LIVE: She's wonderful. AOL LIVE: I hope that her parents realize, AOL LIVE: you know, that -- I know they AOL LIVE: love her and they think she's AOL LIVE: wonderful, but I hope they see AOL LIVE: that she is -- they have to see Lazy but Crazy08: (118) why did u always have junk wedged between ur teeth? AOL LIVE: a different side of her. AOL LIVE: And I hope they got to see all AOL LIVE: of the different sides, because AOL LIVE: she is an awesome person. AOL LIVE: I really feel like Brittany knew AOL LIVE: that I cared for her, and that AOL LIVE: she could say anything to me and AOL LIVE: even if it was the craziest AOL LIVE: thing or even something mean, I AOL LIVE: cared, and I hope that somebody AOL LIVE: else will genuinely care for her JoeBaccala: (118) she can't see that, Lazy AOL LIVE: like I did. AOL LIVE: Host: C.M. white would like to AOL LIVE: know, who do you think will be AOL LIVE: in the final three selected? AOL LIVE: How early on did you kind of AOL LIVE: make the answer to this question AOL LIVE: in your own head? AOL LIVE: Karen: Actually, I had me down AOL LIVE: in the final four of I was AOL LIVE: hoping, you know. AOL LIVE: And I thought it would be George AOL LIVE: and myself and Eddy and Brit, AOL LIVE: because there was an alliance AOL LIVE: there with us. AOL LIVE: I liked Eddy from the beginning. AOL LIVE: And then of course Brit and I AOL LIVE: hit it off. AOL LIVE: And George was somebody that had AOL LIVE: something in common with me, he AOL LIVE: had children too. AOL LIVE: So I knew it was a good feeling AOL LIVE: to know that somebody understood AOL LIVE: what I was going through. AOL LIVE: So now I can tell you the two AOL LIVE: that I think I would really love AOL LIVE: it to be, and that is definitely AOL LIVE: Brit and Eddy. AOL LIVE: The third one, that's a tough AOL LIVE: call, you know. AOL LIVE: It used to be George that I AOL LIVE: would think. AOL LIVE: So for George's sake, it was AOL LIVE: great for him, because he AOL LIVE: doesn't want to do roofing AOL LIVE: anymore. AOL LIVE: So maybe financially this will AOL LIVE: be a boost for him. AOL LIVE: It would be a help. AOL LIVE: So -- and all three of them AOL LIVE: could benefit from that, the AOL LIVE: financial end of it. AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another AOL LIVE: question from AOL. CYBERCAZ: (118) Karen, are you leaving your husband? AOL LIVE: Janda 43 says, based on the last AOL LIVE: four days, if you could tell the AOL LIVE: group in the house one thing AOL LIVE: now, what would it be? AOL LIVE: Karen: Based on the last few AOL LIVE: days? AOL LIVE: Host: Well, you did get a chance AOL LIVE: to sort of say good-bye. AOL LIVE: The other two guests didn't AOL LIVE: really get that opportunity. AOL LIVE: Are you kind of glad that you AOL LIVE: had the opportunity to tell them AOL LIVE: what you thought? AOL LIVE: Karen: Yeah. AOL LIVE: And I guess another thing I AOL LIVE: would like to tell them is that AOL LIVE: life on the outside isn't that AOL LIVE: bad. AOL LIVE: Because that's always a fear AOL LIVE: when you're in the house, you AOL LIVE: know, you have to leave the AOL LIVE: house and miss the whole AOL LIVE: experience. AOL LIVE: I felt like I lived the whole AOL LIVE: experience. AOL LIVE: I don't feel deprived. AOL LIVE: I wanted to -- I thought I had AOL LIVE: to be there for three months to AOL LIVE: have the experience. AOL LIVE: I feel like I got it. AOL LIVE: Now it's to the point where it's AOL LIVE: hard. AOL LIVE: It's going to be painful, AOL LIVE: nominating and everybody. AOL LIVE: I got out at the right time. AOL LIVE: It was perfect. AOL LIVE: Host: Somebody has the same AOL LIVE: question I have, work mom 31 -- AOL LIVE: how did you feel about the big AOL LIVE: brother, the people who gave you AOL LIVE: the curfews and how they AOL LIVE: portrayed you in all these AOL LIVE: challenges and things? AOL LIVE: They were responsible for AOL LIVE: throwing in all these with AOL LIVE: reference to your relationship. AOL LIVE: How you do feel about big AOL LIVE: brother? AOL LIVE: Karen: I was asked that earlier. AOL LIVE: No, I wasn't. AOL LIVE: I thought I was just telling AOL LIVE: somebody about how I felt. AOL LIVE: I was angry with them a lot of AOL LIVE: times. AOL LIVE: We were in the house, we felt AOL LIVE: like they were manipulating our AOL LIVE: emotions and everything. AOL LIVE: They told me they weren't. AOL LIVE: I actually said -- that was AOL LIVE: probably the first thing I said AOL LIVE: to Paul and Doug. AOL LIVE: They were kind of mean to us. AOL LIVE: And they said they didn't do it AOL LIVE: on purpose. AOL LIVE: See, they didn't know what was AOL LIVE: going on inside of us because we AOL LIVE: couldn't all fall apart at the AOL LIVE: same time, and we couldn't -- a AOL LIVE: lot of people didn't and they AOL LIVE: haven't, but inside, trust me, AOL LIVE: they are -- it's hard. AOL LIVE: It's so difficult. AOL LIVE: You have to suppress everything, Art2heal: (118) why didn't you bid Cass farewell, like you did everyone else? AOL LIVE: because if you actually allowed AOL LIVE: yourself to feel all the AOL LIVE: feelings that you're feeling AOL LIVE: inside, I think everybody would AOL LIVE: come undone. AOL LIVE: Unfortunately, I went too far AOL LIVE: and I wanted to feel -- I wanted AOL LIVE: to think about my kids, because AOL LIVE: I missed them. AOL LIVE: So the more I thought about my AOL LIVE: kids, the worse it was for me. AOL LIVE: But without a doubt, big brother AOL LIVE: was good to us. AOL LIVE: You know, I don't have anything AOL LIVE: bad to say about CBS. AOL LIVE: The way they portrayed me, some AOL LIVE: things I don't agree with, you AOL LIVE: know. AOL LIVE: And it's not the way they AOL LIVE: portrayed me. AOL LIVE: They couldn't show me 24/7, so AOL LIVE: they did the best that they AOL LIVE: could. AOL LIVE: But the story editors were AOL LIVE: great. AOL LIVE: Host: Now that you're out of the AOL LIVE: house, you get to watch the AOL LIVE: show. AOL LIVE: So janda 2000 says will you AOL LIVE: watch "Big Brother" on TV? AOL LIVE: Karen: I'm angry, I missed it AOL LIVE: last night. AOL LIVE: We went for a walk and didn't AOL LIVE: get back until after it was over AOL LIVE: with. AOL LIVE: I would have liked to have seen AOL LIVE: it. AOL LIVE: I'm sure somebody taped it and AOL LIVE: I'll see it. AOL LIVE: Yeah, I will watch it. AOL LIVE: I will watch it probably it will AOL LIVE: be emotional for me, though, AOL LIVE: because I can relate now more AOL LIVE: than ever what these people are AOL LIVE: going through. AOL LIVE: And I'm sympathetic. AOL LIVE: Host: How is all this being out AOL LIVE: of the house treated you? AOL LIVE: How quickly are you able to AOL LIVE: adjust? AOL LIVE: Did you get to talk to your AOL LIVE: family right away? AOL LIVE: Karen: It was crazy. AOL LIVE: The first night was a mess. AOL LIVE: I went into the place on sunset AOL LIVE: and it was some country-western AOL LIVE: place, and -- AOL LIVE: Host: The place with the bulls? AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, yes, yes. AOL LIVE: Host: OK. AOL LIVE: I go there, too, so I guess I AOL LIVE: could be on the show. AOL LIVE: Karen: The place was so loud. AOL LIVE: I haven't had music. AOL LIVE: I haven't had TV. AOL LIVE: They had TV screens all over the AOL LIVE: place and the music was loud. AOL LIVE: My head was pounding and I was AOL LIVE: totally overwhelmed, because the AOL LIVE: first thing I heard from my AOL LIVE: children, well, all the mean AOL LIVE: things people are saying about AOL LIVE: me. AOL LIVE: And that hurt because I don't AOL LIVE: think of myself as a terrible AOL LIVE: person, so I was hurt that they AOL LIVE: didn't know my heart. AOL LIVE: Or why I said what I said, AOL LIVE: because you can't clear up AOL LIVE: things because you don't know AOL LIVE: about them. AOL LIVE: So that was a real struggle for AOL LIVE: me. AOL LIVE: I don't know, it was -- what was AOL LIVE: it? AOL LIVE: I don't know what else I was AOL LIVE: supposed to answer, but go AOL LIVE: ahead. AOL LIVE: Host: We've got another question AOL LIVE: from J.B. jizzmo 819, what's in AOL LIVE: the future for you and have you AOL LIVE: gotten any TV offers? AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, I've gotten some AOL LIVE: offers. AOL LIVE: Host: Really? AOL LIVE: Excellent. AOL LIVE: Karen: Three of them so far. AOL LIVE: Host: Incredible. AOL LIVE: That's great. AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't expect it. AOL LIVE: I thought I would do the show AOL LIVE: and I didn't realize I was going AOL LIVE: to be controversial. AOL LIVE: So I thought I would do the show AOL LIVE: and go home, be with my kids and AOL LIVE: life would kind of fall into the AOL LIVE: same rut. AOL LIVE: But anyway I'm amazed, and the AOL LIVE: people here have been so AOL LIVE: awesome. AOL LIVE: You know, I walk Don the street, AOL LIVE: I have not heard one negative AOL LIVE: comment. AOL LIVE: People come up to me and tell me AOL LIVE: they love me, I was their AOL LIVE: favorite. AOL LIVE: People drive down Sunset AOL LIVE: Boulevard and scream out, "we AOL LIVE: love you, Karen." AOL LIVE: I'm amazed, because from AOL LIVE: everything I heard I felt AOL LIVE: everybody hated me. AOL LIVE: It was hurtful to me, because I AOL LIVE: don't hate anybody, you know. AOL LIVE: And I couldn't understand how AOL LIVE: people could pur receive me as AOL LIVE: being bad -- people could AOL LIVE: perceive me as being bad. AOL LIVE: That was tough. AOL LIVE: Host: I guess it would be hard AOL LIVE: to not take those personally, AOL LIVE: but you had to vote people for AOL LIVE: banishment. AOL LIVE: Kate wants to know, did you AOL LIVE: blame anyone in the house for AOL LIVE: banishing you? AOL LIVE: Karen: I don't. AOL LIVE: The funny part is I voted for AOL LIVE: Josh and ca sand rafment I guess AOL LIVE: I can't -- and Cassandra. AOL LIVE: I guess I can't say anything AOL LIVE: about that. AOL LIVE: The first time when your hear AOL LIVE: you're nominated, this is the AOL LIVE: tough part, and I feel for AOL LIVE: Jordan because Jordan was the AOL LIVE: first to react, and it's a AOL LIVE: personal attack. AOL LIVE: And I understand why Jordan felt AOL LIVE: that way. AOL LIVE: And nobody else, unless they've AOL LIVE: been there, can relate. AOL LIVE: But you feel like they're AOL LIVE: saying, I don't want you. AOL LIVE: So I felt that way. AOL LIVE: Even though I wanted to be AOL LIVE: nominated, it still hurts. AOL LIVE: Even if I would have gotten -- AOL LIVE: if everybody in the house AOL LIVE: nominated me and I asked them AOL LIVE: to, I think if they would have AOL LIVE: said everybody nominated me, I AOL LIVE: would have been like AOL LIVE: [gasps] AOL LIVE: even though I asked them to. AOL LIVE: It's like they're judging you. AOL LIVE: When I heard it was Jamie, I AOL LIVE: didn't know why, you know, I AOL LIVE: just -- and I knew it was Jamie. AOL LIVE: We were laying on the bed and AOL LIVE: there was something she said or AOL LIVE: did, and it was like all of a AOL LIVE: sudden, the lights went off in AOL LIVE: my head. AOL LIVE: I'm like oh, my gosh, she AOL LIVE: nominated me. AOL LIVE: Luckily because of that, when AOL LIVE: Julie asked me on the show and I AOL LIVE: told her it was Jamie, I was AOL LIVE: glad, because I would have been AOL LIVE: unprepared and would have had AOL LIVE: the same look when they told me AOL LIVE: I had three nominated votes. AOL LIVE: I would have been like AOL LIVE: [gasps] AOL LIVE: so I was glad I figured that out AOL LIVE: before I heard it. AOL LIVE: Host: How often did you think AOL LIVE: about the $500,000, about the AOL LIVE: winning? AOL LIVE: Karen: It probably didn't hit me AOL LIVE: till the third week. AOL LIVE: It was like, OK, I'm making it, AOL LIVE: I'm doing this, wow, this would AOL LIVE: be cool. AOL LIVE: And then as I started falling AOL LIVE: apart and found myself -- I AOL LIVE: don't know, I felt like I was AOL LIVE: losing who I was. AOL LIVE: That bothered me a lot. AOL LIVE: Then, all of a sudden, I knew I AOL LIVE: wanted to see my kids and I AOL LIVE: thought, OK, I'm only halfway. AOL LIVE: Oh, my gosh, there's no way. AOL LIVE: You know? AOL LIVE: Everything else -- I refuse to AOL LIVE: lose myself over money, and I AOL LIVE: needed to know that my kids were AOL LIVE: OK and happy, that they -- you AOL LIVE: know, I didn't know. AOL LIVE: They may have missed me so much AOL LIVE: and wanted me off the show, but AOL LIVE: wanted me to stay if that was AOL LIVE: what I wanted. AOL LIVE: I kept trying to figure, this AOL LIVE: what they want? AOL LIVE: Is this what I want? AOL LIVE: Then I thought, it doesn't AOL LIVE: matter. AOL LIVE: I have to see them and know. AOL LIVE: I need that peace of mind. AOL LIVE: Host: Well, n-dice wants to AOL LIVE: know, Karen, are you still not AOL LIVE: smoking? AOL LIVE: Karen: I wish I could say I'm AOL LIVE: not, but I am. AOL LIVE: I think it will be easier now. AOL LIVE: I look at it like OK if I could AOL LIVE: not smoke during nomination AOL LIVE: week, you know, and through all AOL LIVE: of that, gosh, I could surely AOL LIVE: quit, right? AOL LIVE: And that was stressful. AOL LIVE: So I always said I needed it for AOL LIVE: stress. AOL LIVE: So I -- I'm not smoking as much. AOL LIVE: I find that to be true. AOL LIVE: And I'm not even chewing AOL LIVE: Nicorette gum. AOL LIVE: Host: I know a lot of friends AOL LIVE: who smoke, so I was laughing the AOL LIVE: whole time, going, yeah, I know. AOL LIVE: I would like to see a lot of my AOL LIVE: friends in the same position to AOL LIVE: see if they could last. AOL LIVE: Karen: I think everybody thought AOL LIVE: I was going to lose it, just AOL LIVE: blow up and yell at everybody, AOL LIVE: because that's what I do at home AOL LIVE: when I can't smoke. AOL LIVE: But I didn't yell at anybody. AOL LIVE: Host: Kinda 97 says, would you AOL LIVE: let your own daughter on a show AOL LIVE: like this? AOL LIVE: Karen: First, you have to be 21, AOL LIVE: so luckily she wouldn't be of AOL LIVE: age. AOL LIVE: And I would strongly urge her AOL LIVE: not to, because I think part of AOL LIVE: the reality stuff is in dealing AOL LIVE: with people in such a small AOL LIVE: environment and having everybody AOL LIVE: watch you, you're bound -- your AOL LIVE: flaws are bound to show. AOL LIVE: And when your flaws show, I AOL LIVE: think people are quick to judge. AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, you know, I AOL LIVE: think my daughter's wonderful AOL LIVE: and I couldn't watch her be -- AOL LIVE: you know, I couldn't watch AOL LIVE: problems and watching her make AOL LIVE: mistakes or whatever. AOL LIVE: You know, I'm sure everybody AOL LIVE: thought I made quite a few AOL LIVE: mistakes, and I probably did. AOL LIVE: You know, I know I did. AOL LIVE: There were a few things that I AOL LIVE: probably would never repeat. AOL LIVE: So it would be hurtful for me. AOL LIVE: Funny, my mom watched it and my AOL LIVE: mom, she still loves me. AOL LIVE: I talked to her for two hours AOL LIVE: and she was so supportive. AOL LIVE: It meant the world to me that AOL LIVE: she didn't ever say, Karen, AOL LIVE: shouldn't have done this or AOL LIVE: shouldn't have done that. AOL LIVE: She wanted to make sure I was AOL LIVE: OK. AOL LIVE: That's real mom. AOL LIVE: Host: Next question -- what was AOL LIVE: everyone's favorite meal in the AOL LIVE: house? AOL LIVE: And and can you give us a little AOL LIVE: insight for those who don't know AOL LIVE: how you get the food and the AOL LIVE: alotment is made and you decide AOL LIVE: what you're going to meet? AOL LIVE: -- what you're going to eat. AOL LIVE: Karen: You get $5 a person per AOL LIVE: day. AOL LIVE: Then you get your weekly AOL LIVE: challenges and you have to wager AOL LIVE: a portion of that, anywhere from AOL LIVE: 20% to 50%. AOL LIVE: So of course, we always had 20%. AOL LIVE: Except for the bike. AOL LIVE: Then we did 50. AOL LIVE: One time I think we did 30%. AOL LIVE: Then we had a basic list from AOL LIVE: Big Brother, so our list wasn't AOL LIVE: very comprehensive. AOL LIVE: It was like staples and fruits AOL LIVE: and vegetables,enges things like AOL LIVE: that. AOL LIVE: And then we would just order it. AOL LIVE: I was kind of dominating that, AOL LIVE: only because I knew what I AOL LIVE: needed to make things from AOL LIVE: scratch, because I knew that AOL LIVE: would help stretch our budget. AOL LIVE: Host: You know what Curtis said AOL LIVE: when you were banished? AOL LIVE: The food gets substantially AOL LIVE: worse now. AOL LIVE: So they're glad that you had AOL LIVE: control. AOL LIVE: It sounds like they loved your AOL LIVE: cooking. AOL LIVE: Karen: Yeah, we had apple pie, AOL LIVE: brownies and cakes. AOL LIVE: I made a lot of things from AOL LIVE: scratch. AOL LIVE: Host: This is our last question, AOL LIVE: believe it or no. AOL LIVE: . AOL LIVE: L.M.H. dancer says, if you let AOL LIVE: Brittany die your hair, what AOL LIVE: color would you have wanted her AOL LIVE: to dye it? AOL LIVE: Karen: Purple. AOL LIVE: Host: It would go great with the AOL LIVE: out fit. AOL LIVE: Karen: I know. AOL LIVE: I really did want to, but I was AOL LIVE: scared if I went out, I wanted AOL LIVE: to be mom. AOL LIVE: So I got to leave the house and AOL LIVE: be who I was. AOL LIVE: Host: Well, thank you for all of AOL LIVE: your insight today. AOL LIVE: Now you can go do just that. AOL LIVE: Karen: That's right. AOL LIVE: Host: Thanks for joining AOL AOL LIVE: Live. AOL LIVE: Thank you to all of you for AOL LIVE: joining big brother 2000.com. AOL LIVE: And watch CBS. |
Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:34 pm  I got to the chat room a little late but this is at least part of it... I can get the transcripts later. |
Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:40 pm  The AOL LIVE is what was broadcasted .. the random posters were in my chat row and were not heard by the host or Karen ... guess they didn't get how it worked. The questions were sumitted earlier. |
Cathie | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:51 pm  Zelda - I think this is everything before you came in: AOL LIVE: Host: Welcome, everybody, to AOL LIVE: America Online live. AOL LIVE: I'm Robert Ell, and joining us AOL LIVE: in the studio today is -- well, AOL LIVE: you've got a few names here. AOL LIVE: Mob. AOL LIVE: Mad dog. AOL LIVE: Karen springer. AOL LIVE: Do you mind if we just call you AOL LIVE: Karen? AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, please. AOL LIVE: Host: Welcome to big brother AOL LIVE: 2000.com, everybody. AOL LIVE: Tonight we'll be chatting with AOL LIVE: our third banished house guest, AOL LIVE: Karen. AOL LIVE: Thank you for joining us AOL LIVE: tonight. AOL LIVE: Karen: Thank you for having me. AOL LIVE: Host: Are you ready and prepared AOL LIVE: to meet your fans on line? AOL LIVE: Karen: I think so. AOL LIVE: Host: Have you had a chance to AOL LIVE: go on line at all to see what AOL LIVE: the experience is like for all AOL LIVE: of us and how we're really AOL LIVE: seeing you? AOL LIVE: Karen: I guess I heard about it AOL LIVE: through family, and I heard a AOL LIVE: lot of negative, so I guess I'm AOL LIVE: a little nervous. AOL LIVE: Host: Well, don't be nervous. AOL LIVE: Everybody joining you here today AOL LIVE: is interested and fascinated by AOL LIVE: what you've just done. AOL LIVE: What an incredibly unique AOL LIVE: experience for all of us who AOL LIVE: were able to watch "Big AOL LIVE: Brother." AOL LIVE: Why don't we go right to the AOL LIVE: questions. AOL LIVE: Moon glow asks, by being in the AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" house, how much AOL LIVE: did you learn about yourself? AOL LIVE: And what, if anything, was an AOL LIVE: eye opener for you? AOL LIVE: Karen: Oh, I don't know. AOL LIVE: There was so much I learned AOL LIVE: about myself. AOL LIVE: There are things probably that I AOL LIVE: thought were important, probably AOL LIVE: weren't as important as I AOL LIVE: thought they were. AOL LIVE: So I need to totally relax about AOL LIVE: little things, don't sweat the AOL LIVE: small stuff. AOL LIVE: The eye opener, oh, the eye AOL LIVE: opener is probably that I can AOL LIVE: learn how to -- I can be with AOL LIVE: people that are controversial AOL LIVE: now, I think. AOL LIVE: I can deal with it better than I AOL LIVE: could before. AOL LIVE: Before, I always avoided AOL LIVE: controversial people, and I just AOL LIVE: would remove myself from it. AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, I had to deal AOL LIVE: with some problems in the house AOL LIVE: from the very beginning, and I AOL LIVE: was able to talk to those people AOL LIVE: and work it out. AOL LIVE: Host: What a great life lesson. AOL LIVE: I mean, that's amazing. AOL LIVE: That's fabulous. AOL LIVE: Most people can't overcome AOL LIVE: something like that. AOL LIVE: Karen: I just hope it stays. AOL LIVE: I had to do it there, you know. AOL LIVE: But it was good because it was AOL LIVE: -- it really pushed me, you AOL LIVE: know, and it made me realize AOL LIVE: that I was stronger than what I AOL LIVE: really was. AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another AOL LIVE: question from AOL. AOL LIVE: Linda would like to know, Karen, AOL LIVE: Linda would like to know, Karen, AOL LIVE: if you had the opportunity to go AOL LIVE: back to the first days in the AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" house, what would AOL LIVE: you do dimple? AOL LIVE: Karen: Well, I think I can AOL LIVE: address -- what would you do AOL LIVE: differently? AOL LIVE: Karen: Well, I think I can AOL LIVE: address that. AOL LIVE: I'm sure it's my disclosure AOL LIVE: about my married life. AOL LIVE: And I wouldn't change it. AOL LIVE: The only thing that I think AOL LIVE: bothered me was I think the TV AOL LIVE: audience probably didn't get the AOL LIVE: full effect. AOL LIVE: Obviously, they didn't -- it AOL LIVE: would have been a long show. AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, even the AOL LIVE: on-line people, they don't know AOL LIVE: my heart. AOL LIVE: They don't know exactly what's AOL LIVE: going on inside of me. AOL LIVE: And the 22 years that I AOL LIVE: experienced. AOL LIVE: I mean, I'm not saying that it AOL LIVE: was awful. AOL LIVE: But it was stressful. AOL LIVE: It was -- it's been a hard AOL LIVE: marriage. AOL LIVE: And I guess I would probably AOL LIVE: stress that -- you know, that my AOL LIVE: husband is a good person. AOL LIVE: We just probably were not made AOL LIVE: for each other. AOL LIVE: We're total opposites. AOL LIVE: And as much as we've tried to AOL LIVE: work things out, tried to make AOL LIVE: it look like we have a perfect AOL LIVE: family, things aren't perfect, AOL LIVE: you know? AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, they're not. AOL LIVE: Because my ideal is to have -- AOL LIVE: be married to the same man, you AOL LIVE: know, forever, and to have a AOL LIVE: house where kids can bring their AOL LIVE: grandkids to our house and they AOL LIVE: have grandma and grandpa, you AOL LIVE: know? AOL LIVE: And I like those ideals. AOL LIVE: I like that little fairy tale AOL LIVE: arrangement. AOL LIVE: But it doesn't always work. AOL LIVE: And I know, you know, somewhere AOL LIVE: down the road, you know, when AOL LIVE: things happen that we're not AOL LIVE: together, you know, it can work. AOL LIVE: I've seen it work in a lot of AOL LIVE: other families. AOL LIVE: But it's a disappointment to me AOL LIVE: that I couldn't share those AOL LIVE: feelings, as well, because it AOL LIVE: wasn't all about me. AOL LIVE: You know, it was about me and AOL LIVE: nine other house guests, so I AOL LIVE: couldn't really share it. AOL LIVE: But they had to know me. AOL LIVE: That's the one thing I guess I AOL LIVE: probably got the most feedback AOL LIVE: on, was that people were angry AOL LIVE: with me because of saying these AOL LIVE: things, you know, hurting my AOL LIVE: husband. AOL LIVE: And -- but I want everybody to AOL LIVE: know that I had to share that, AOL LIVE: because I wanted people to know AOL LIVE: who I was. AOL LIVE: And I didn't feel like I could AOL LIVE: get to know my other house AOL LIVE: guests and they couldn't get to AOL LIVE: know me unless I was honest with AOL LIVE: them. AOL LIVE: And I couldn't pretend like I AOL LIVE: had a perfect life. AOL LIVE: Host: Braeden would like to AOL LIVE: know, will you and your husband AOL LIVE: stay together and seek AOL LIVE: counseling? AOL LIVE: It sounds like you pretty much AOL LIVE: have decided like counseling may AOL LIVE: not actually -- AOL LIVE: Karen: We've gone to counseling AOL LIVE: together, and I -- you know, it AOL LIVE: remains to be seen. AOL LIVE: You know, I've only spoken with AOL LIVE: him probably for just that brief AOL LIVE: -- you know, when they saw me on AOL LIVE: TV. AOL LIVE: And then I saw him probably for AOL LIVE: just maybe 15 minutes at night, AOL LIVE: alone. AOL LIVE: We talked and I thanked him for AOL LIVE: being there, because that was AOL LIVE: important to me that he was. AOL LIVE: There I wanted him to -- I AOL LIVE: wanted him to be there, just AOL LIVE: because I wanted to thank him AOL LIVE: for knowing that he did take AOL LIVE: care of the kids. AOL LIVE: I knew that they were well fed AOL LIVE: and he was there for them when I AOL LIVE: wasn't, and that meant a lot. AOL LIVE: Host: Have you had the chance to AOL LIVE: meet any people yet that have AOL LIVE: recognized you, you know, from AOL LIVE: the show? AOL LIVE: Because on-line, at least I've AOL LIVE: noticed, there are so many moms AOL LIVE: out there, you know, people AOL LIVE: going through what you went AOL LIVE: through, and you've kind of AOL LIVE: become a hero for them. AOL LIVE: In that regard. AOL LIVE: Karen: That's scary, you know, AOL LIVE: because I don't -- I'm not a AOL LIVE: perfect wife. AOL LIVE: I'm not a perfect person, you AOL LIVE: know. AOL LIVE: And I guess that's what scared AOL LIVE: me the most was somebody would AOL LIVE: think that I was representing, AOL LIVE: you know, a mom, I was AOL LIVE: representing a married person, AOL LIVE: because I wish I could say that AOL LIVE: I have led this perfect life and AOL LIVE: everything's been wonderful. AOL LIVE: It hasn't. AOL LIVE: It hasn't. AOL LIVE: And I feel like every AOL LIVE: circumstance is different, and I AOL LIVE: would hate to think that I would AOL LIVE: motivate somebody to leave their AOL LIVE: husband without really AOL LIVE: exploring, you know, every, AOL LIVE: every way of resolving that AOL LIVE: difference. AOL LIVE: Host: Fair enough. AOL LIVE: And I'm sure you have. AOL LIVE: Cheesy big grub, kind of an AOL LIVE: interesting name, Karen, what AOL LIVE: was your most embarrassing AOL LIVE: moment? AOL LIVE: Karen: It wasn't embarrassing on AOL LIVE: the show, I don't think, but it AOL LIVE: was embarrassing when I found AOL LIVE: out I Mooned the camera. AOL LIVE: I thought it was prifed. AOL LIVE: That was in the camera -- that AOL LIVE: was in the bathroom. AOL LIVE: Host: There was a camera AOL LIVE: everywhere. AOL LIVE: That was one of my favorite AOL LIVE: moments, when you -- not that AOL LIVE: moment, but when you were told AOL LIVE: there was a camera behind the AOL LIVE: mere where you did that in the AOL LIVE: bathroom. AOL LIVE: I mean, you really were AOL LIVE: surprised by that? AOL LIVE: Karen: I was. AOL LIVE: But then I heard it, every time AOL LIVE: I go past it, you hear on the AOL LIVE: camera track or whatever, you AOL LIVE: hear them, and I'm like, oh, my AOL LIVE: gosh. AOL LIVE: I learned whenever I blew my AOL LIVE: nose to make sure my nose was AOL LIVE: clean. AOL LIVE: Host: Next question, what did AOL LIVE: you do about the showers? AOL LIVE: You talked about this before you AOL LIVE: came on. AOL LIVE: Did you forget there were AOL LIVE: cameras in the showers, as well? AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't forget, but when AOL LIVE: I first was at the house, I AOL LIVE: don't know why I did this, AOL LIVE: either, I was taking a shower AOL LIVE: and I turned around to rinse my AOL LIVE: hair out, realized I was giving AOL LIVE: them a full frontal view and I AOL LIVE: was like -- it really made me AOL LIVE: upset. AOL LIVE: From then on, id tried to stay AOL LIVE: away from the corner where the AOL LIVE: camera was and close to the AOL LIVE: faucet. AOL LIVE: Because of that, the water would AOL LIVE: splash out and there would be a AOL LIVE: flood when you got out of the AOL LIVE: shower, all this water on the AOL LIVE: floor. AOL LIVE: Host: You revealed something to AOL LIVE: me earlier before, you said AOL LIVE: you're klaus ro phobic. AOL LIVE: I went -- claustrophobic. AOL LIVE: How in the world you did stay as AOL LIVE: long as you did? AOL LIVE: Tony 498 asks, did you ever AOL LIVE: think about walking out of the AOL LIVE: door even before you were AOL LIVE: nominated? AOL LIVE: Did you realize what you were AOL LIVE: stepping into when you walked AOL LIVE: into this "Big Brother" house? AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't feel like AOL LIVE: walking out the door until I AOL LIVE: couldn't resolve the issues with AOL LIVE: my kids. AOL LIVE: You know, that was -- I feared AOL LIVE: that I would walk out of door AOL LIVE: because of the claustrophobia, AOL LIVE: because there were nights I had AOL LIVE: to force myself to fall asleep AOL LIVE: and totally clear my head, AOL LIVE: because I felt like I was ready AOL LIVE: to explode, because I needed AOL LIVE: air. AOL LIVE: There were times you'd go in AOL LIVE: this little bedroom and I'd AOL LIVE: sleep against the wall. AOL LIVE: Of course, I lived in the love AOL LIVE: bed, so there were lots of AOL LIVE: people in our bed. AOL LIVE: Host: That's an Aaron Spelling AOL LIVE: show waiting to happen. AOL LIVE: Karen: I'd nobody the bed in the AOL LIVE: corner and the room, like they AOL LIVE: wouldn't have the air on at AOL LIVE: certain times, you know, you AOL LIVE: wouldn't have any air blowing, AOL LIVE: and the doors are shut, so it AOL LIVE: was perfectly black in the room AOL LIVE: and no air, and I had to fall AOL LIVE: asleep. AOL LIVE: So I could clear my mind luckily AOL LIVE: to the point of falling asleep AOL LIVE: but not losing it. AOL LIVE: Host: I'm going to combine a AOL LIVE: question somebody posted on the AOL LIVE: board with the next AOL AOL LIVE: question. AOL LIVE: OK, beatle mar said when Karen AOL LIVE: is banished she wished someone AOL LIVE: kiss. AOL LIVE: Would you please have George AOL LIVE: hamilton there to greet her with AOL LIVE: the kiss of her life. AOL LIVE: Did you get your kiss? AOL LIVE: Karen: No, I didn't get my kiss. AOL LIVE: I'll get it some day, surely. AOL LIVE: I would rather have somebody AOL LIVE: else like Tom Green. AOL LIVE: I love Tom, I love Jim carrey, AOL LIVE: Louie anderson, Kramer. AOL LIVE: I would have taken any of them. AOL LIVE: Host: We have a lot of stars AOL LIVE: come in here, so if we get a AOL LIVE: chance to talk to them about AOL LIVE: kissing you, I will do whatever AOL LIVE: I can. |
Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:54 pm  You're the best Cathie! I really wanted everyone to see it that weren't able to get to the chat room... Thanks! |
Cathie | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:59 pm  I was happy to do it - this site has been sooooo helpful to me with the live feeds, so I'm glad to pay back a bit! |
Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:25 pm  Admin: I just posted an apology in other discussions. I didn't realize that we were not to do this because of the length. My bad |
Murphy | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:35 pm  Zelda - Thank you for the transcript. Other MBoards have posted it, too. |
Zelda | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:40 pm  You're welcome... Cathie was great and added what I didn't get. Lots of misspelled words etc... Love that AOL chat stuff (ha) but you can get the jest of it. |
Puttergirl | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:51 pm  LAME... LAME... LAME... LAME If the questions they threw at her had been any softer, they would have evaporated into thin air. |
Bigbrofan | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:54 pm  Thanks a lot! I missed it too! I appreciate it! |
Zlfd | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:56 pm  Thanks for posting this. It was just as lame as I figured it would be. |
Twiggyish | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:56 pm  I enjoyed reading that, thank you for sharing. |
Ccc | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 07:01 pm  Thanks Zelda and Cathie |
Moderator | Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:48 pm  relocated from the general discussion area (r) |
Egbok77 | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:05 am  Thank you Cathie and Zelda for helping this BB Addict get her fix. Also to those who complained, that is SO not right to say the AOL chat with Karen was lame. (a Karenism!!) |
Spaga | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 10:40 am  To Cathie and Zelda for the chat script - THANKS A BUNCH. You both did so well. Enjoyed reading it very much. Couldn't get in on the live chat so you really helped me out too. |
Laura | Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:50 pm  Thanks cathie and zelda !!! We appreciate it. But the interview was really boring. Everyone treats Karen with baby gloves. Is everyone so afraid that she will melt down that easily ?? I wonder why ?? And another thing, how many times did she said "you know" ? Get her a dictionary to expand her vocabulary. I didn't want to be rude, but you know !!! |
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