I am proud of all three boys for the drunkfest last night....

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Delia

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:18 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie: Absolutely right. The guys certainly soaked up any alcohol they could get their hands on while in the house. As I recall, they even ran out of toilet paper at one point because they spent their money on beer instead. That's very intelligent, isn't it? (Rhetorical Question)

Delia

Whatever

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:40 pm Click here to edit this post

Related discussion:

No more booze for Eddie

Irish

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:46 pm Click here to edit this post

For everyone who thinks that they shouldn't have been 'cutting loose and drinking' last night, I have one question for you.

If you knew you were receiving at least $50,000, would you NOT have celebrated in your own way?

This was their way! Let's not bash them over this. They played a good game and they deserve to enjoy this, THEIR, moment!

LMAO my 54 year old mama says GO BOYS GO! :)

Singblueeyes

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe*gasp gasp*hehehehehehehehehehehehe *gasp*
OMG!...I'm STILL laughing today!
I don't think there was anything unhealthy about three young men cutting loose after three months of an unbelievably weird situation!Everyone said rude and obnoxious things all night AND apologized for them in the morning. My only disappointment of the evening was that I didn't get to see Curtis's heinie too!!! hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

Jombie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:12 pm Click here to edit this post

That's right...it was a PARTY and nothing more...

Bunny is right: An elixir is just an alcohol-based concoction...it is not a drug or they wouldn't say 'Drugs AND Alcohol' in the first place...and far more often than not, an elixir has NO medicinal properties at all...the quack con-artists and gypsies of yore sold them all the time...what about water being the 'elixir of life'? And it doesn't even have alcohol in it???

These guys are in the money no matter which place they end up in...and it's time to celebrate!!

Delia, you're just a buzzkill at this point...

Katie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:13 pm Click here to edit this post

And they are all, especially Josh, sick today. Josh passed out and can't remember parts of last night. There is such a thing as moderation. Why couldn't they have been drinking and still not gotten that drunk?

Tarotot

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:33 pm Click here to edit this post

As a woman I find this kind of "male bonding" bizarre. No wonder men don't have deep friendships. And yes, alcohol is a drug.

Katie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:39 pm Click here to edit this post

What I think is strange is all of this talk about male bonding when I don't think that Eddie and Curtis will have one thing to so with each other once this is all done and who know if either one of them will with Josh. I don't think it was real male bonding so much as 3 guys just getting drunk because it was there and they could. I think it interesting that BB hasn't given them more beer today.

Jombie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:54 pm Click here to edit this post

This is not male bonding...it's PARTYING!!!

Drinking, getting drunk, passing out, vomiting, passing out again, waking up the next morning with a headache, cleaning up, taking a nap and starting all over again!!! Did anyone here ever go to college...par for the party course...

And, it's a poisonous elixir...not a drug...the distillation process alone precludes this...drugs are chemical compounds with different methods of coming to be...

And for the record...I personally am a temperance advocate and do not partake of the poison elixir myself...but it is sure fun to watch...

Floresmama

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:56 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with most of you that was some of the funniest stuff I have ever seen. I was laughing so hard I was crying.

Yes Delia it probably wasn't prudent for them to have done this but they have worked hard win the money and they had just found out they were winners of at least 50k. I think you need to lighten up and cut them so slack.

Enbwife

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:04 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with Jombie (Angel)... They had a party last night, and provided some much needed entertainment for their ever faithful, die-hard BBFC fans out here! I've never laughed so hard reading the live feeds and watching the drunken dance tonight on the TV show. I think they deserve to cut loose and celebrate their success on the show! Way to go boys....Hope they have fun again tonight :) By the way, I'm an ex-drinker that abused the stuff a long time ago, and I'm alive to talk about it (alcohol is a drug) :)

Katie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:09 pm Click here to edit this post

They seem to have finished the beer last night and BB doesn't seem to coming up with more. Curtis and Josh are still feeling so sick they don't really care. Don't think it will happen again tonight.

Delia

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Jombie, you are correct that *some* people use the phrase "Drugs AND alcohol." Do you know the reason for this? The reason is to separate the LEGAL drug alcohol from all the ILLEGAL drugs. But if you read my quote above from the State of California, they don't take that approach. Instead, they say "Alcohol and OTHER drugs" so as not to give the impression that alcohol is a "preferred" drug and/or that society should approach alcohol with "kid gloves."
And wasn't it just wonderful--during their drunken party last night--for Josh to mar the walls of the house with his blue-stained hands (after coloring Curtis' hair blue). I think I'm more than made my point regarding the problems with alcohol and tonight's show was additional confirmation. Hope this helps.

Delia

Visualpollution

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:20 pm Click here to edit this post

Delia: I read an earlier post of your where you mentioned the following: "... marijuana IS an elixir because there are some medicinal benefits from using marijuana ..."

Frankly, marijuana has *NO* medicinal qualities. It is used by many chronically ill (eg. those undergoing chemotherapy), due to it's ability to act as a painkiller and, as such, provide temporary relief for symptoms associated with their ailments. Unfortunately, this doesn't qualify it as an 'elixir'.

One of the main reasons marijuana is useful is that its effects are noticeable very quickly, whereas ingestible painkillers often take a few hours for their full effects to become apparent.

A drug is a drug is a drug. Don't tiptoe around definitions. As an advocate of medicinal marijuana, please keep in mind that you are also an advocate of drugs.

I certainly don't begrudge anyones freedom to do what they want with their body. Personally I would love to see a legal means for chronically ill people to obtain marijuana. What bothers me are people who fudge definitions to fit their own belief systems.

Ian

Jombie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Alcohol is a fermented liquid that will not freeze...

Drugs are chemical compounds...

Marijuana is an herbal plant substance...

Boy, the government can truly alter people's realities...

Deeya

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:50 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't particularly care what you call it... the guys are all of legal age and drank of their own free will....

I truly hope we haven't become so intolerant that we are going to raise a fuss about 3 guys getting drunk...

Did they have too much...??? sure... are they dead from it?? nope... they simply had a good time getting carried away...

And many of us watching it and/or reading the posts later had a good time too. No one was forced to watch it... I wish I could have seen it all... unfortunately I have to work in the mornings.. .and am 2 hours ahead of them... arrrrrggghhh... (BB put the next version someplace closer to Central time zone please)

Visualpollution

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:58 pm Click here to edit this post

Jombie: Just for you ...

drug (drg)
n.

1
a - A substance used in the diagnosis, treatment, or prevention of a disease or as a component of a medication.
b - Such a substance as recognized or defined by the U.S. Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act.
2
A chemical substance, such as a narcotic or hallucinogen, that affects the central nervous system, causing changes in behavior and often addiction.

This is *not* a government definition. This is a dictionary definition. Your definition of marijuana as an 'herbal plant substance' is correct, but only half the story.

Let's all take some peyote! That's another of your narcotic 'herbal plant substances'. What would you consider 'shrooms?

Why is it that advocates of marijuana just seem to refuse to acknowledge that it's a drug?

Pot, hash, mushrooms, acid, e ... been there, done that. All drugs. Live with it.

Ian

Lilith

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:06 pm Click here to edit this post

There are some really uptight people here. And Delia... it was Jamie's idea to spend all the money on beer, she mentioned it many times, saying that them having a good time was more important than food.

Visualpollution

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Anyway ...

As for the houseguests drinking - more power to them. All we can do is hope that they don't hurt themselves or anyone else by doing so.

Personally, I would have liked to have seen some Ikea Baseball.

Ian

Jombie

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:40 pm Click here to edit this post

What they are and what you do with them are two completely different things...

U.S. Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act? Sounds like the government to me...you've got to stop reading those Army-issue dictionaries...

All the substances you've described are poisons as well...narcotics and hallucinogens are comprised of BOTH drugs and herbal plant substances...lumping everything together and calling them 'drugs' is so old and petrified, it's as if Nancy Reagan wrote the definition...

Black and white doesn't exist anymore, and even color isn't enough to adequately describe something these days...it is a digital world now, and things are broken down to their most simplistic elements - 1010101010101, and as a result of that that simplicity comes the most clear and defined view that we can achieve...

LSD is both a hallucinogen and a drug...Marijuana is a herbal plant matter until you BURN it... Alcohol is a mild liquid poison and being drunk is the effect of the poison on your body...it's like eating blue cheese...it can also make you delirious!

It doesn't change the the fact that for some, alcohol is a source of recreational pleasure... and a means to celebrate...Beer is nothing more than a party beverage...they weren't having any hard liquor (strong poisons) at all...

Visualpollution

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Jombie:

Aaah. You almost answered my next question with your answer but stopped short.

I agree. Marijuana is just a plant until you burn it ... but what does it become then? A narcotic? A poison? A drug? An elixir? Burnt plant matter?

All too confusing; this obtuse talk and blurring of definitions.

Fine. Let's call marijuana a 'happy smoke'. Still doesn't change the fact that happy smokes are an illegal substance. Whether they have any positive effects is moot.

Hopefully that will change to some degree. I know a joint can be helpful to some (and I'm not talking abut high-school stoners), and should become legally available through a doctor.

Blah, blah, blah ...

Ian

PS

Your statement that things aren't black and white any more, and that things, in this digital world, are broken down into 1's and 0's just doesn't make sense. Black & White, 1 & 0 - they're essentially the same thing.

I believe the opposite. With todays 'digital' world we have access to much more information which helps blur those defintions that are imposed upon us, and to see that things aren't neccessarily black and white, but rather painted with shades af grey.

_Willow

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:42 pm Click here to edit this post

"Alcohol is a fermented liquid that will not freeze...

Drugs are chemical compounds... "

Not that this is really important, but alcohol is, in fact, a chemical compound. A compound results when something reacts with something else to create a new substance with new (and unique) properties all its own (incidentally, one of the properties that defines alcohol as a compound is that it won't freeze -- unlike some if its elemental components.) Fermentation itself is the chemical reaction that creates the compound, alcohol.

Now what we know as "booze" is not a compound, but a dilute mixture of 2 different compounds -- water and alcohol.

So, alcohol is a compound. But is it a drug? That depends on your definition of "drug". IMHO, it's not.

(Sorry about this post -- I'm a Biochem major!)

Willow

Delia

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 12:04 am Click here to edit this post

VisualPollution wrote: Don't tiptoe around definitions. As an advocate of medicinal marijuana, please keep in mind that you are also an advocate of drugs.


VisualPollution, I take it that the pollution has hindered your vision because you have completely misread, misinterpreted and/or misunderstood what I have written in previous threads...but that's all right. Nevermind.

Delia

Tarotot

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 07:04 am Click here to edit this post

I don't give a d*mn if the HG drink, puke, whatever. What DOES surprise me is that people on this board see it as "bonding" "exciting" "fun". I see it as boring, empty, and not worth watching. And why all the backing away from calling alcohol a drug? not that it makes any difference. It happens to be USA drug of choice.

Action9026

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 07:31 am Click here to edit this post

Oh come ON... these guys are of age, and in case some of you self righteous people have forgotten, beer is LEGAL in the U.S.A. So quit preaching to these guys and let them have fun. Geeeeze

Avenlee

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:04 pm Click here to edit this post

I can't believe the act of 3 20 yr. olds getting drunk could sparked such a ridiculous conversation. You people really need to lighten up and not worry about how this one or that one defines a drug . . .

Unbelivable