Eddie's Unfair Advantage: He's Censored

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Deeya

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Nishy while I don't believe I am influenced by the fact that Eddie has one leg.. I understand what you are saying... yes it is possible that people cut him slack because of it...

In fact.. I started off biased against him because I thought he might win a lot of sympathy... instead I find I enjoy his antics.. love the way he plays the game.. and participates in everything...

I think Eddie (yes I am reading his mind here) would be pissed to get support based on sympathy .. but that's just my opinion...

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:41 am Click here to edit this post

First of the duplicate posts should be deleted.

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:13 am Click here to edit this post

Tis true that we don't know more about the other HG's losses and successes. Probably because they don't discuss these things. Eddie has. It isn't his loss of leg that encourages me to appreciate Eddie. It is the mere fact that he talks passionately about things. Losses, beliefs.
Eddie is one of the few HG to express his inner self. I call this being REAL. And to me, this realness outshines his faults and crudeness


The other HG's are trying so hard not to offend the veiwing public, so in that effect they aren't being real, IMO. I would like to see heated discussions about differing topics. It makes life interesting.

Eddie seems to be the only one who will step forward and say.."This is me, the good the bad and the ugly. Take me or leave me. I remain true to myself. Money and fame can't make me behave different than who I truly am.

In my opinion, this is a winner.

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:33 am Click here to edit this post

Kearie-


Eddie has a well-crafted story he has told time and again since he has lost his leg.

The other houseguests do not have such a prepared script, because they neither require nor seek special attention.

As for the "real' argument, Jamie, Josh and Curtis have shown more real, connected involvement with previously-banished houseguests and among themselves.

Perhaps Eddie lovers define "real" as cussing, belching, farting, and other obnoxious and more socially unacceptable behavior. The truth is that it is possible to be "real" without such negative behavior, despite the fact so many Eddie lovers live in denial of it.

Eddie refused to have a meaningful conversation with Jamie, despite her efforts, for 3 months.

On your own criteria, Eddie fails to deserve to win.

Your post is out of place here and contains nothing relevant to the subject: "Eddie's Unfair Advantage: He's Censored"

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:45 am Click here to edit this post

Whatever--

I am a member of this fanclub also and have a right to my opinion as does everyone else.

CBS's scripting of Eddie is not Eddie's doing, it is CBS's for whatever reason they may have.

As to my previous post...I was simply responding to the last paragraph of your post prior to mine.

How are you so sure his story is scripted and well rehearsed?

Name some examples of when Jamie tried to start real conversations with Eddie and was rejected.

And may I point out to you, the connectedness that Jamie has shared is surface only. True, she has been a good listener for certain HG.

Part of sharing also involves sharing of one's thots and perceptions. Sharing of ones ideas. Being open and honest enough to be controversial.

Please note also...that you were the one who brought Jamie into this little conversation, not I. I only mentioned Eddie and 'other HG's'.

I see that you recognized some truths about Jamie upon reading my post since you were quick to defend her when I wasn't specifically attacking her or her character.

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:53 am Click here to edit this post

Kearie,
Jamie tried to start real conversations with Eddie and was rejected.

This did happen at least a couple of times. I saw this myself. I wondered why he was doing it but he did.

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:58 am Click here to edit this post

Kearie- "How are you so sure his story is scripted and well rehearsed?"

He's had plenty of practice answering the same question(s) and repeating the same stories for most of his life.

"Name some examples of when Jamie tried to start real conversations with Eddie and was rejected."

Do your own homework and read the live feeds. Eddie has pushed her away on numerous occasions.

"And may I point out to you, the connectedness that Jamie has shared is surface only. True, she has been a good listener for certain HG. "

No, you may not. Jamie has discussed philosophical topics relevant to her quote book, and more. She's had meaningful conversations with most houseguests, especially Brit, Josh and Curtis.


I included Jamie because she's one of the houseguests still in the house- not because of your bizarre and incorrect presumptions.


Again, the topic of this discussion is "Eddie's Unfair Advantage: He's Censored".

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:20 am Click here to edit this post

Then quit arguing back and I will leave you to your losing task of trying to encourage people to keep Jamie in the house. I will leave you to your very biased beliefs and your inability to be open.

Ain't nothing like the REAL thing Baby!

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:55 am Click here to edit this post

Ooops Katie.

Girl, we got to make you see the light about Jamie.

Don't want to get into discussions with you about Jamie or about Eddie. I hope you know I don't go out of my way to bash any HG. I did note that Jamie was a very good listener and asked questions about her. This isn't bashing her.

Uh-oh, me bad.

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:00 am Click here to edit this post

Kearie,
I like Jamie because I think that underneath all of the makeup is a scared little girl trying to get approval. I think she needs the money for some therapy to help her to learn to accept herself.
I personally don't see what you see in Eddie but we can still be friends.

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:04 am Click here to edit this post

I agree with you about Jamie and being a scared girl. I hope she soon realizes that she needs some help. And I mean this in the most heartfelt sincere way.

Katie....you have a thing for Curtis...lemme have my fun with Eddie. Me and the man could get into some awesome belching contests. I think he is just about the sexiest youngun I have seen. lol

Whatever is going to attack me some more. SAVE ME!

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:14 am Click here to edit this post

You can have Eddie, IF you can get him from Monika. From what I have heard she is a tough woman. Even Eddie seems a bit afraid of her.

Casper

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:55 am Click here to edit this post

I for one could have done with Eddie telling Jamie not to get her "panties in a bunch". This was after the banner "Jamie 2faced--saveeddie.com banner.
talk about 2faced Eddie tells the people "like my a$$ needs saving", making fun of the folks who sent it in front of Curtis and Jamie...then after they went into the house Eddie stays behind and gives the banner his thanks.
Then instead of being the "big hearted guy" everyone keeps talking about tells Jamie "not to get her panties in a bunch". Isn't that sweet of him ...yes a big "teddy bear" he is. She asks him not to say that...he says "oh your being sensitive". How about Eddie being "gross". And is so "chauvinistic" to say something like that. So "teenish/childish".
And was completely uncalled for. I was expecting him to say "Oh Jamie are you raging?"
Eddie you have got to be the "groty-est" person I've seen on t-v. And the thing is you are not acting. That is the real you. You are a bevis&butthead one man show. This "Texas chick" will BE voting for ya man. I wish they'd censor not only your words but put a big "blur spot" on you face.

Eddie ---- you are a "GROTY" man.

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:10 am Click here to edit this post

Eddie tells the people "like my a$$ needs saving", making fun of the folks who sent it in front of Curtis and Jamie...then after they went into the house Eddie stays behind and gives the banner his thanks.
I also notice this and I don't get it.

Sunshine

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:20 am Click here to edit this post

I could be wrong but how come I haven't seen or heard of any of the nude pictures of Eddie in the shower or Josh at the trampoline here at the Big Brother Fan Club.Did i miss something? But I did see them in another smaller NG...Just curious
Eddie and Josh Fan.......

Dulci

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:28 am Click here to edit this post

this person posted them here:

http://raygardner.com/bigbrother1.htm

Deeya

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:35 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't see the contradiction in Eddie laughing with the HG about his a$$ needing saving.. and then taking the time to thank his supporters.

The name of the website is saveeddie.com. He obviously finds humor in the fact that somewhere out there in the public is a person/group that feels he needs saving. Nothing wrong with that.

At the same time he seems to appreciate the fact that there are people out there that do support him and are willing to spend them money to prove it.

I like the fact that Eddie takes the time to thank people who support him. Jamie has done the same thing and I give her the same credit. It's nice when "celebrities" (if you can call the HG that) take time to acknowledge their fans/audience.

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Deeya,
What seems inconsistent is that he doesn't thank them when anyone else is around. He waits until they are gone. While the others are there he makes fun of the banner people and then when the others leave he thanks them. Why doesn't he say "I think it is funny that you think I need saving, but thanks for the banner." while the others were there to hear him. His whole tone changes as soon as the others walk away.

Rufusgriswold

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie -- Eddie doesn't want the others to see his real personality; it might screw up his "I hate the world" image.

Deeya

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:14 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie.. I keep the live feeds on most of the time when I am at home... and Eddie tends to thank the people that send the banners with other HG around and without them. In fact, I have seen him bring it up when the others are there.. and then later he will reiterate his thanks.

One thing that most of us (posters) do is look for things to pick apart about the houseguests (and yes I include myself in this too). If we don't like someone, we can and will find flaws to shine a light on. All of the houseguests have flaws.... needless to say if we were under the cameras 24/7 people would be able to point out our flaws too... or interpret our actions to fit the image they have of us. I'm not saying it is right or wrong... or that some do it worse than others.. because we all know it is all over the boards here. I think it starts out as a way to make someone else see a particular point of view.. and then escalates as we feel the need to defend our comments. It's so easy to lose our objectivity.

Katie.. don't take this as directed specifically at you (beyond the first paragraph).. believe me it isn't. I am telling myself this as much as anyone else. I can't tell you the number of times I have deleted posts that I have started that will flame Jamie, or George, or another poster..

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:25 pm Click here to edit this post

Russ
I think you might be right there.
Deeya
He just changes his whole tone of voice when he does it. One minute he is yelling and then the next he is nicely thanking someone. That is the problem I have with Eddie. He yells, swears and insults others and then he will turn around and say and do something nice. Kind of like a Dr.Jeykll and Mr. Hyde. I am not putting him down ok? I know he isn't like this guy but just the best type of symbol I could find He totally confuses me because of this. I don't get him. I don't know which one is the real Eddie

Snowgirl

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:26 pm Click here to edit this post

The thing that bugged me about that little exchange was that even though the banner was anti-Jamie, Eddie kept focusing on himself and didn't seem to want to acknowledge the "two-faced" part.

Seems to me it was pretty self-centered of him. It was just the sort of thing that Jamie's gotten slammed for in the past - I think there was some banner in the past that slammed George, but said something nice about the other HG? I can't remember exactly, but I remember Jamie getting slammed because she said "that's nice" about that banner and didn't acknowledge the anti-George part (at least, that's the way I remember it.)

I would have liked it a lot more if Eddie had been a gentleman (it is to laugh) and said something in defense of Jamie.

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:33 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie sounds a lot like me. Unpredictable...and you never know who your going to get from day to day. Will I have a positive attitude, a bitchy attitude? Will I be happy, sad, mad, compacent?
will I be on my best behavior or will I let it all hang out? Is life so good I can't get down, or is life so down I can't get up?

One thing is certain...Eddie is very complex.

I think one thing is certain...you either like him alot or you dislike him.

Jacque

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:53 pm Click here to edit this post

I hope producers of BB2 (if there is one) will try not to put someone in with quite the level of vulgarity Eddie has had for the entire show.

I watch and listen (I certainly don't like hearing what I hear from him), but when my kids walk into the room, I absolutely have to turn it off.

I wish I didn't have to do that.

Anyone else have the same problem?

Byron

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Yes Jacque, the hypocrisy of the so-called family channel, CBS, pushing for this vulgar contestant is mind-boggling.

9 Losers, 1 wealthy Loser

Kearie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:07 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie bashers

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:19 pm Click here to edit this post

Kearie- That was pretty cool!

Spright

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:32 pm Click here to edit this post

Jacque, I don't know if CBS would be able to tell from a short interview what kind of language they'd be getting out of a potential HG. But I do wish that if there's a BB2 they will not bother to warn HGs about their language, just show things as they happen and let the audience decide. It seems unfair to me that BB would help Eddie out by warning him that his language could offend some people and then set up Jamie to take as many falls as she has (granted, she has only her own behavior to blame) like offering her the choice between the casting director and her mother and letting her "host" the night that Brittany was banished. I can't think of any other HG who was given a warning about possibly offensive conduct, as Eddie was, or who was played with the way Jamie was.

Deeya

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:58 pm Click here to edit this post

Snowgirl.. while I understand your point of view regarding Eddie not saying anything to comfort Jamie... another way to look at it was that he was not reacting to the negativity of the banner. I personally dislike the negative banners regardless of who they are about.. as I think it is unfair to all the houseguests... just my opinion. I think that by ignoring what the banner said he was showing just how unimportant the message was to him. Also, he has said that he doesn't believe the negative banners about Jamie... and I believe the only one(s) he has had any real belief in are the ones that the HG have been able to determine were really from someone they trust (i.e. his mom). I think that's a pretty healthy attitude for him to have.

Mbliving

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:10 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with you again, Deeya.

I think Eddie could see how upset Jamie was and was trying to insult himself and make light of it. It would have been tacky to thank the senders in front of her so he waited to do it when he was by himself. I think if someone took the time and spent the money to show thier support, you should thank them whether or not you agree with the banner.

Snowgirl

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post

Deeya, I see your point - I was just trying to point out that there was a similar instance with Jamie and George and Jamie got slammed for being insensitive (but I don't remember the details, so maybe I hallucinated the whole thing).

Mbliving, I'm not sure I agree with you. If I were really loyal to another HG, I wouldn't feel the need to thank someone for the money they spent on a banner for me if it also slammed that other person. Of course, I don't think Eddie is necessarily loyal to Jamie, nor is he under any obligation to be. But I think it would be nice to see - I've often enjoyed those moments when the HG have stuck together (usually against BB).

Whatever

Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 09:32 am Click here to edit this post

See also:

"Does BB have an agenda?"

http://www.bomis.com/bigbrother/discus/messages/65/5413.html?970039616