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Spaz

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:06 pm Click here to edit this post

Cass now outside (joins jamie, curtis and george):
Group is setting quietly and thinking (Karen took dog inside)
Cass: has anyone ELSE been to the red room

G: Yep

Cu: Uh-huh

Cass talks about how being nominated means the roast is for her but it is unfair to make others humilate the nominated (???).

MOre quiet from group.

feed switched to chicken coop.

Julesjis

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:07 pm Click here to edit this post

ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT

Xfmboy

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:09 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis to Cass

"You know the only time they know we feel down
is when there is nomination..
Maybe the best thing now is that we band together.. Cass you wanna prepare that big breakfast.. We'll all get together and hang out
Make it simple and won't hurt.."

I'll gladly help they all say..
I'm really scared at this point George says

They're coming in to cook guys - Cass says

OK that's fine, Karen says

Where's it going George goes on... It'll all be better tomorrow

Max

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Wow! TOTAL silence in the house except for the damn dog barking (still). Josh is in the redrum. George is sitting outside alone. Last I saw anyone else, they were just standing around staring.

Now Curtis and Cass talking about not letting BB do this to them. It's different than nomination tension because it's something that BB did to them entirely, not something they contributed to at all. Says maybe they should make a big breakfast and just hang out together for a while (they didn't have dinner because of the basketball game and then the roast). Cass says there's something she has to do by tomorrow morning so she's going to sit somewhere and do it. Curtis, George, and Jamie say they are going to go cook.

George says he's really scared, but doesn't elaborate. He says he doesn't know where it's going and they all better think about that.

MOre silence.

Glass

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:12 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis: The only time this comes up is at nomination time. We need to band together and not let them get to us. Maybe a
big breakfast now. Our blood sugar is probably low. Cass: Needs a quiet palce for awhile but may join them later.
George; where is this all giong? We need to think about that. Curtis: We do need to be careful. Although they do care
about us, the bottom line is to make money. In order for them to exploit us they need to show us in a good light.

Scoobettenq

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:15 pm Click here to edit this post

(Ed. I've never seen so many of them in one place and have it be so quiet. They're obviously upset and feeling uncertain about what they can and should even talk about. Paranoia sets in when you don't know who your enemies are. Important to say this because it's silence and more silence, and this is the reason why.)

Curt: the only other time we feel this down is nominations when they make us do this to one another. we agree not to let them get us down. This isn't something we've done to one another. Not being insensitive, but let's get together and have fun and hang out. Our blood sugar is low too. Not that it fixes everything that simple but it wouldn't hurt. Let's go fix a big breakfast like we had planned.

Cass: I have something I have to do for tomorrow morning, so you guys go ahead and cook.

Curt joking, well if CASS isn't in on the plan...laughing. Ok go ahead.

George: I'm really scared at this point.

Telling Karen we're all going in to cook.

George says the thing is we don't know where it's going. We all better think about that.

Curt: we need to be careful. they do take care of us and look after us. they care about our emotional lives, they're watching and taking care - but at the end of the day, the only reason we're here is to make money for them. they'll act in their best interests. I do worry about hurting people. like with Brit, she's worrying but there's not a damn thing we can do about it but I'm almost 90% sure they're portraying her ok. They'll portray us decently to make money off us. If they portray her as a slutty ••••• they can't make money off of her. So selfishly they'll portray her as funny etc. it's not the greatest consiliation but it's what we've got. We can reassure her that in their complete selfishness, to exploit us they have to portray us well to continue to exploit us.

Jamie; Why would they write a joke about 3 ••••••• joining Josh - explaining how the joke went with Pugita hiding. Jamie asking why they would write something like that. Curt says it's playing up the drama with everyone confronting him and calling him on his actions. Jamie says she was just sitting there and happened to be there. Curt says they portray it like all 3 b*tches ganging up on him.

Jamie: it's such an insensitive thing to do on their part after the week they've had, and it's stupid on their part because it interferes with the way people will act because they're afraid of how they'll be portrayed.

Talking about a meeting. Jamie still upset, saying she doesn't go near Josh at all anyway so the joke was stupid. George saying, if you guys all want to sit down (to talk)...

Max

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:15 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis says it is about the money for BB and that is what they signed on for. But he does worry about BB betraying people. Like Brit, Curtis knows she's worried, but there's not a damn thing they can do for her 'cause they don't know how BB is putting it out there. Says it's in BBs interest to portray them pretty decently or they can't make money off of them. Says it's not in BBs interest to portray Brit as a w*ore 'cause they wouldn't make money. Need to portray her as crazy, funny person. Says they need to have faith. Can either call them altruistic in protecting their interests or consider that BB is completely exploiting them.

Jamie again questions the b*tches joke. Why would they do that? Repeat the joke for George. Why would they write something like that? Curtis says they are playing up the drama with the episode where the three of them confronted Josh. Jamie says she was just sitting there. Curtis says they might be playing on both sides of the story to cause controversy. (ed note: she's really gotta be worried about the pageant folks now)

Jamie says it's so insensitive and stupid because people will change their actions because they are now thinking more about how they are being portrayed.

More talk about possibly having a house meeting. Lots of silence and heavy sighs.

Spaz

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis tries to explain BB philosopy to George.

Curtis points out that the only other time HGs feel this bad is @ nomination because BB makes them feel this way. Let's enjoy each other's company and cook our big breakfast as planned. Our blood sugar is low too..must be why we're depressed.

Everyone leaves except george and curtis. Curtis explains to george that the only reason HGs are there is to make money off of BB so BB will sometimes do things not in the best interest of HG's. He breaks the BB house down into economics: if BB portrays someone poorly than they are gonna looose money.

Jamie repeats the B*tch joke:
"josh, we know why chiquita hides from you; it is because you've already gone after 3 •••••••: jordan, jamie and brit" (ed: WOW I'd be pist too!)

Curtis asks if they still want to meet.

George "If you gus all want to sit down. . ."
*silence*

Jamie talks about the joke BB made her tell about Josh getting Brit off (she says 'I'd never say that "

Xfmboy

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:18 pm Click here to edit this post

Final post for me folks..

They're talking about that at future roasts
they're gonna mention that this is their jokes (as in BB's joke) and here is ours!

Talking about the 7 dirty words you can't say on TV.....

Doggy barking a little and now a lot...

Talking about what jokes what will get aired,
Karen talking about the one about her and her husband having sex etc

Nite folks

Chrisp

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:28 pm Click here to edit this post

News flash, folks! Brit is crying on Josh's shoulder in the boys room. After looooong hugs (Brit complained about getting makeup on Josh's shirt), Josh kissed Brit on the forehead!

Their heads lingered close together for a few minutes. They're holding hands, and he then kissed her hand. She offers him the rest of her cider.

B: "Thanks for being nice to me. You don't have to be, ya know".
J: "Thanks for being nice to ME, after everything....By the way, your parents know you and are proud of you."

More hugging.

Scoobettenq

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:28 pm Click here to edit this post

More silence, dog barking in house.

Curt trying to change the subject, but Jamie still mad.

Jamie talking about editing, and how they'll show her saying the comment about Josh getting Brit off, and how she'd never say that.

They're talking about how they'll do things differently next time or how they can say the jokes to make it look better.

Karen calling Chiquita.

Curt sounds muffled, hard to hear. Karen asks if she can come back or if it's private.

They're moving both cameras in the kitchen on purpose to make the dog bark on purpose. Curtis: @ssholes.

Curt is telling Karen about what they've been talking about - about the jokes, editing, and how they'll all look on TV.

Karen: no doubt, I havne't had sex with my husband since the first of May and they're cracking jokes about it when it's August.

Curt: talking about low blood sugar, and how they're going to need to eat now. Still trying to talk everyone into dropping it and moving on to eating.

Karen's talking about how her experience is over now, she's gotten all she wants out of it and is SOO ready to leave. And won't trade her peace of mind for a million dollars, so it's done. She's never worried about where her next meal is coming from so she has nothign to worry about and it's done - been there done that got the suitcase to prove it.

DAMN DOG BARKING UP A STORM AGAIN!

Karen's going to take the dog in, start cooking and try to put the dog somewhere that there's not a camera to shut her up.

Now they're trying to calm the dog down. Karen yells, do you not realize they're trying to piss you off to the dog. Laughs.

Jamie's talking to Curt about the "getting off" joke and Curt's trying to put things in perspective and calm her down. Saying that it meant Josh getting Brit off his chest, not meaning really getting her OFF sexually.

Telling her not to worry about how she's being portrayed - they can only magnify what you give them and you haven't given them anything to make you look bad (Ed: true, Jamie's behaved carefully).

Curt's ready for anything they make him look like - not a problem for Jamie, Eddie, George, Cass, me or you (meaning Jamie). It's different for the rest he thinks. It's an interesting drama - the love starved virgin, that is somewhat her character. They're interested in making people real and they'll have to show more of her than just that. She's got a serious side and is full of contradictions so they'll show all of her.

She'll have lots of fans who will love her, and a few that will hate her but in my case it will be more (middle of the road - didn't catch exact words).

Curt's still talking, quiet and fairly muffled so it's hard to catch. But he has faith in BB's caring for them, and more faith in their selfishness in wanting to make them halfway likeable. Jamie's saying they'll make money while they're in there, but the odds of making money after they leave aren't good - maybe one or 2 of them - so it's important to say good things about the show after they leave.

Curt's implying that it will be harder on Brit as far as reputation/portrayal than it will for Jamie. Talking about how they say good things about her in the red room, and try to make her look good vs looking like the love starved virgin. Curt worries about Brit. And also worries because she's emotional and it would hurt her more. Says the same about Karen.

Neither have any idea who will be banished Wednesday. Curt thinks probably CASSANDRA (!) but there are equal reasons for all 3 to be banished. Jamie hopes it's not Cassandra.

Drpepper84

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Just came in on Josh comforting Britt at the table. She is still sniffling and he is kissing her hands. She gives him her beer. She thanks him for being nice to her. You dont have to be you know. Sniffle Sniffle. Hug Hug. Muffle talk.He says don't ask me how I know, I just know. Dont know referring to what. sound muffled as they hug VERY liong time

Jules

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Josh is not in the redroom. He is in hugging Brit and I mean really hugging.

Pretty close moment and get to see a different side of Josh. Can't believe there hasn't been a kiss yet. Oops...kiss on the forehead.

Brit puts her forehad on Josh's forehead. Playing with each others' hand. Brit has a beer in the bedroom. Josh giving hand massage. This has to be leading up to something. Still no words....just quiet intense staring at each other.

Josh kisses her hand and looks like he is maybe going to leave. He lightens it up and they talk about the beer. Brit thanks him for being nice to her in her baby voice. She is looking intently at him like she wants to say something...but nope...

Josh tells her her parents are still proud of her and another hug. (Talk about shifting focus)

Hugging and rocking. No one else has come in to see them. Still hugging..and rocking. big sighs.
Not fair you know says Brit.

It's not what they give us...it's what we make of it he says. Can't hear what she said.

he puts his head on her lap and she says his ears are cold.

Whatever

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:31 pm Click here to edit this post

Just a quick note- Eddie hasn't been seen since immediately after the roast.

Brittany found Josh after her talk with George, and they've been hugging ever since.

(ed.- Poor Josh, I guess he gets Karen's Twittany-caretaker job after Wednesday.)

Scoobettenq

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie says noms are harder this time because it's been a month and a half so you grow to love and care about people. Curtis agreeing and saying it's hard. But it's easier in a general sense because you've come to terms with the fact that it's lame and part of the game and won't affect relationships with people.

Airplane, missed part of it (Ed. sorry previous posts are so long, I just start typing and forget to hit post!)

Talking about nominations. Curtis laughing. Thinking about his own nominations, saying some of them were silly dumb reasons but it was at least not personal! Laughing more.

George comes out and says he's still got to do eggs and stuff. Jamie asks if they're still moving the cameras around. George says it's quiet, in fact the cameras are pointed at the ground and not moving.

George: You all can stay out here for a while. Nothing going on. Eduardo is in his cave (laughing). Everybody else is in the bedrooms and scattered. Talking about Pugita has a "lincoln log" coming out of her. Haha. Poop jokes.

George tells Curt to keep Pug outside, so Curt's calling her. Jamie's asking Curt to come inside. Dog barking.

Switching feeds to try and find something else.

Chrisp

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Feed 1...

B: "I just feel like its not fair, ya know?"
J: "It's not about what they give us..."
B: "It's not even that, so much..."

Long looks into each others' eyes.

B: "Stop..."

Josh leans down and puts his head into Brit's lap. (They're sitting knees-to-knees cross-legged). Brit rests her head on his. They sit like this for a few minutes.

B "Do you promise me that no matter how long we're freinds, you'll tell me what you really think, not just what you think I wanna hear?"
J "Yes."
B "...thanks..."

They now realize they can hear someone talking in the LR. Silence as they listen...

Brit commetns on Josh's "rosy cheeks".
J "You're wierd <smile>"

Now Brit's describing her various rings from her world travels...

Drpepper84

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Josh says its not about what they give us, its about what we do with it. Britt says its not even really about that. He says tell me what its about. For some reason she can't bring herself to tell him what her problem is. He has his head in her lap. Her head on his head. Britt asks him to promise no matter what to always tell her what he thinks and not what he thinks and not what he thinks she wants to here. He promises this. B now talking about how much he likes his rosy cheeks. He keeps asking her if she is ok. Seems very concerned about her.

Glass

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:36 pm Click here to edit this post

George just made an interesting comment. He said that it was really quiet inside and that all of the cameras were pointed down. Someone else said because they already had their footage.

Chiquita just passed "a lincoln log" outside, Yeah!

Julesjis

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:37 pm Click here to edit this post

george "this place is like major depression city"

Scoobettenq

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:40 pm Click here to edit this post

Found Josh and Brit on feed 1. Talking about a ring. Closeups of Brit/Josh both playing with the ring on his finger. Talking about how little Brit's hands are. Brit: makes me mad that they would take feelings that I don't have that often, and... Josh: exploit them? Brit: not exploit them just make me so mad. I don't think feelings are bad? Josh: No.

More holding hands. Josh saying come here, hugging. LOTS of hugging, sound very muffled from mics being all hugged up. Josh talking but I can't understand what he's saying. Brit's clinging to him like he's the last life preserver off the Titanic. Sorry, had to be said.

More hugging.

(Ed: can't stand any more of them, moving back to feed 3 if someone wants to do the Josh/Brit play by play)

Drpepper84

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:45 pm Click here to edit this post

Brit finally says she is upset because she has feelings that are unreciprocated and it is happening on tv and then BB made a big joke about it. Aw, huge hugs from Joshie for this revelation. More weeping from Britt. "I'm not doing so bad I'm I?" Now telling him to leave her there. She is really sobbnig now. He is holding her and rocking her from behind.

Clockwatcher

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:45 pm Click here to edit this post

ok, so brit and josh have been hugging so long that I think that they are fused together!!! Brit says she's ok. Oop, I was wrong they are now apart and talking about the movie "To Gillian on her 37th Birthday". Obviously trying to lighten things up a bit. Josh said that they should go...Brit says she doesn't want to, but she thinks she's handleing it pretty well granted. George comes in and says pancakes are ready.
Josh now hugging Brit from behind. Brit looks like she's crying more now!

Scoobettenq

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Back to feed 3. Karen talking and laughing about how small George is mincing the scrambled eggs. Asking if Eddie's coming out to eat. He says yeah. Curt: should I see how they're doing (they who?)? Karen: the dog finally settled down, that's a good thing. Do they want any?

Cass comes out. George cracked a joke - too many laughing, can't understand what the joke was. Something about Cass doing dishes.

Cass is freezing and has wet hair with curlers in (ed: that's where she went after the talk outside, to fix her hair after today's pool stuff) so she's turning the kettle on. Karen says not to ever say it's cold in that place. George is offering Cass his coat.

Karen says she doesn't remember everyone being this upset after the last roast (ed: compared to Brit and Jamie, she's handling it VERY well - took the roast in stride). Karen says the food she made isn't that great, she feels bad. They're saying it's fine.

OK I am done for now. Carry on. :)

Chrisp

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:47 pm Click here to edit this post

More talk of Brit's jewelry. Mentions size of hands..."Eddie's hand is as big as my FOOT!"

B "It makes me mad that they would take some feelings that I don't have that often..."
J "and exploit them..."
B "Not just exploit them -- turn them into something bad..."

Brit starts to cry again. They hug again...

B "it's like they did this on purpose...."
(mikes muffled BAD by the hugging...can't make out what they say)

Josh says the roast seems to hurt others worse than they hurt him..."I don't give a sh*t what they think..."

Still hugging...silence...

B "I'm OK,..I'm okay"
J "I know you are. I'm still there..."

Still hugging...

J "Let's go play with the real people..."
Describes a sad movie "To Jillian on her 30th birthday" (ed. it IS a sad movie!) about a widower and his conversations with his dead wife. The above is a quote from that movie.

George pops in and announces that pancakes are ready...

B "I don't think I'm doing so bad...am I? I mean, I'm not handling it the best, but I'm handling it OK, aren't I?"

Josh sits down again and hugs her from behind. One or both of them is breathing heavily into the mike!

B "Let's go eat pancakes, OK?"
J "Just give me two minutes...Just remember I'm here for you anytime, anyplace."
B (through tears) "'Kay...I'll be okay through this experience."
J "Y'know what? 'Okay' is not good enough. I want you to be better than 'okay'."

More hugging and heavy breathing...

They now comment on how BB must be showing Josh shaving his chest in the shower, since they mentioned it in the roast.

Canucknucklehed

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:49 pm Click here to edit this post

Jeez, was I the only one to lose the feed for at least 5 minutes? I'm sure it was intentional on C-BEE ESS's part.

Josh and Britt still in love bed, he's hugging her from behind. She's talking about liking herself, J confirms that he likes her too. She's still crying. She just tells him to go eat his pancakes; he asks if he should turn the light off and she says no.

Josh leaves, Britt still a bit snively. She's staring into space, sniffing. Rough night all around.

Glass

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:49 pm Click here to edit this post

F3 Karen is in the kitchen making apple pancakes. Not very sweet but eveyone likes them anyway.

She asks if they created this drama because the shows' rating have droped? Curtis; I hadn't hought of that. Maybe. K:
No copters have been flying overhead like usual.

George & Curtis go to call the others to breakfast. Cass thanks George for signing her t-shirt (something funny). Karen:
George are you doing another informercial.? G: No my days are over. Roofing doesn't look that bad anymore. Cass:
Your'e not going back to that George. hgs are sitting down at table with plates. no sign of Brit, Jamie,or Josh yet .
Eddie just walked in.

Whatever

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Spirits are back up in the house- George, Curtis, Karen, in happy moods. Cassandra her usual self, maybe a little worn out. (Eddie is missing, not sure if Jamie is around.)

Brit and Josh still together, Brit had another crying spell, says she "likes me". Josh agrees.

Cassandra joking about saying evil things to camera people if she's left alone.

Now Josh joins group. Says RR told him that "whatever you want to say, we don't want to hear". Some HG's comment. BB announces "Josh please come to RR". Josh- "You had your chance!"

Chrisp

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Josh finally leaves to go eat pancakes. Brit stays behind and crawls into Josh's bed. She's still crying, staring up at the ceiling, sniffling...

...now wiping her eyes and nose...trying to pull herself together...

Feed 1 switches to Josh briefly...then cuts back to kitchen as Cass and Curtis discuss BB's motivation for the roast jokes.

Glass

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:53 pm Click here to edit this post

Josh just said that went he went into red room they told him that what ever he had to say they didn't want to hear now. He asked if they wanted to ask him anything and they said no. Right after his statement to the hgs BB called him back to RR. a collective "OOOH!"

Canucknucklehed

Monday, August 14, 2000 - 11:55 pm Click here to edit this post

They're all sitting down to eat, talking about how BB in the RR wouldn't talk to Josh...he just told them this when he joined them.

I didn't see anyone post about this event, while they were outside: George and Curtis and Jamie were all talking, with Britt listening, and they were basically discussing a REVOLT!!!!

George said they could all walk out the door, right now, and what could CBS do??? but they would have to act as a united group, everyone would have to do it. After tossing that idea around, between Curtis and George, and Jamie (who must have been aghast at the idea of leaving her soapbox) they decided that a walkout would be a ratings boon to CBS and then replacing them with 8 new characters would also be a ratings winner.

Subject dropped; I'm surprised it wasn't turned to the kippen cam.