Archive through September 14, 2000
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Archive through September 14, 2000
Suziebird7 | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 11:35 am  From Jamie: Mother comes first From George: Follow your dream, (there *may* be money in the garden!) From Josh: If you want to be loved and admired, save a small animal From Curtis: Sometimes good things *do* come to good people From Eddie: F*ck it! What about you? |
Battlestar | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 11:52 am  From Britt--Too much Glitter and Hairdye make you a target |
Gottaluvit | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:01 pm  jamie-- education does come first josh-- having intelligence does not mean they have common sense. curtis--chinese guys can be pretty cute and lawyers are not all evil. eddie-- always think before you speak george-- you can take the man out of the country but cant take the country out of the man (dont get mad, i am a country girl) cass-- boring and pentup can be mistaken for class jordan-- strippers are self-centered will-- hate doesnt always come from the people the media says it comes from karen-- i am happy i enjoy my independence and space or i could be in the same situation brit-- pink hair, piercings, may mean insecure like i suspected |
Deni_San | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:41 pm  "cass-- boring and pentup can be mistaken for class" Wow! How wrong you are! |
Gottaluvit | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:45 pm  i know a girl who at work who comes off as classy, but after watching real class from cassandra on bb, the girl at work is actually just boring and pent up. am i still wrong? |
Delia | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:51 pm  Gottaluvit wrote: curtis--chinese guys can be pretty cute and lawyers are not all evil. I *don't think* Curtis would refer to himself as a "Chinese guy." Curtis was born in the States, not in Asia, to my knowledge. I believe he would say he's Asian-American. Hope this helps. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:56 pm  What's wrong with saying 'Im Chinese' vs. 'Im Asian-American'? |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:59 pm  Because he's not Chinese. Nor, I believe, are his parents. They were born in America. I do not consider myself Russian, nor are my parents, though several of my grandparents were. Why can't people be proud to call themselves Americans? |
Dortega | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:02 pm  Rufusgriswold: What do u mean he's not Chinese? He is American because he's born here. So what's the diff by saying he's Chinese/Asian-American? I dont see any difference! |
Whatever | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm  Folks, all your criticism of Gottaluvit's post proves is that you're incapable of posting something original and related to the topic of this discussion. |
Noslonna | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm  I thought of something I learned in life each time a HG was banished: Cassandra: You can be true to your beliefs and keep your dignity by just being yourself. Brittany: You can be emotional and like attention and still make others feel happy and loved. Karen: You have to admit there are problems and talk about them before you find a solution. Jordan: Your values, morals, and ethics may determine your behavior, but too often they are compromised to justify actions. William: You have two choices in life, you can be first or last. |
Gottaluvit | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm  i had asian on my post at first but changed it because i am not sure how it would be worded. i knew someone would try to pick me apart. i lived with a chinese girl from america in college and she went by chinese. that is why i chose chinese. should chinese restaurants be called asian-american restaurant, if they are in american and the people that own it were born in america?? For some reason, i do not really see Curtis minding which way it is put. But Curtis is open-minded. So, i will leave it as is, considering i was giving him a compliment. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:10 pm  Everybody: I was reacting to Delia's comments. Nothing to do with Gottaluvit at all! |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:10 pm  My point, Dortega, is that it should not be necessary to preface "American" with anything. America is a melting pot of all nationalities and races. It seems to me that racism will only end once we have all learned to think of ourselves as one people. What could be more racist, for example, than telling a "white" woman that she is "black" simply because one grandparent was "black." And yet, in this country, a single drop of blood can make you so, whether or not you want that distinction. We are what we want to be, and judging people by race alone is simply stupid. I know there are others who strongly disagree, but unlike the HGs, I'm not afraid to express my opinion. And that's my two bucks. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:22 pm  but why would a full blooded Chinese be ashamed to say he's chinese (from what delia is assuming)? just because he lives in the usa? what's wrong with saying 'hi, im curtis, im chinese'? this is dont understand. |
Suziebird7 | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:27 pm  From Pugita: You don't have to be beautiful to loved. |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:28 pm  Because Chinese is a nationality, not a race. Curtis is American. His ethnicity is Asian. I am Caucasian and American. I am not a Russian -- I have never been to Russia, nor have my parents. To insist that Curtis is Chinese means that if the Chinese go to war with the U.S., Curtis must fight for them. That's as stupid as imprisoning hundreds of thousands of "Japanese-Americans" during WWII. Most of those people were born and raised in the U.S. and yet when war came they were treated like the enemy. We didn't have German-American or Italian-American internment camps. Why? Because of physical differences only. That's racism, when the issue was really nationalism. |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:31 pm  And for those who question if this subject line is on-topic, I think it is. Big Brother has dealt with questions of race, and learning from the show is what this thread is all about. |
Rollerboy | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:32 pm  Will Mega: Black men, especially outspoken black men, are always targets in a white society. Jordan: "Exotic Dancers" lose some of their appeal when they come down off the stage and start talking. Karen: Hysterical head cases really stand out in a small crowd. Britt: Hysterical, clinging vine, drama queens are best taken in small doses from a great distance. Really stand out in smaller crowd. Cass: Black women last longer than black men and nuts. Eddie: Doing more on one leg than a lot of people do with two may not be something people want to be reminded of six days a week. Curtis: If you're ever prosecuted in Federal Court pray Curtis gets the case. Josh: Run, don't walk, when approached by women with affected accents and/or pink/green/blue hair. Jamie: If you are driven/ambitious and self centered you might want to avoid unscripted speaking on national tv programs. George: If you are an evil genius perpetuating a plan that would put Dr. NO to shame, don't use doofus from Rockford, Ill as cover identity. |
Cackyh | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:34 pm  from bbfc: give people a forum, and they will argue over just about anything. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:37 pm  so rufusgriswold, it is wrong then for curtis to say 'im chinese'...because by saying such, he's being a racist? |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:43 pm  Dortega, I was participating in a philosophical discussion. Curtis is free to call himself anything he pleases. Okay. |
Suziebird7 | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:48 pm  Not to be rude, but any chance you could take the race discussion to another thread so we can continue the lessons learned thread here? |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:53 pm  I'm done. |
Mjji | Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:54 pm  Wowza! Good to see the George/Anti-George, Jaime/Anti-jME threads aren't the only nitpicky ones! ;-) Rufusgriswold, good point in distinguishing nationality vs race. Having said that, isn't the wording that "chinese guys can be pretty cute" a little more implying that in certain perceptions, Chinese guys are generally not attractive? Don't jump at me! I know fully well that Gottaluvit said it fully with good intentions. This would lead me to say that one of the important things I've not necessarily learned from BB, but now have a stronger belief in, is that semantics is an extremely important factor in communication. |
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