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Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:32 pm Click here to edit this post

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AOL LIVE: come in here, so if we get a
AOL LIVE: chance to talk to them about
AOL LIVE: kissing you, I will do whatever
AOL LIVE: I can.
AOL LIVE: Karen: Just for a joke.
AOL LIVE: Host: Next question -- who is
AOL LIVE: your favorite house guest?
AOL LIVE: Karen: That's probably so
AOL LIVE: obvious.
AOL LIVE: I love Bret.
AOL LIVE: But it's like 100% all-American
AOL LIVE: girl.
AOL LIVE: She is just an awesome lady.
MrLiveGuy: Brit
AOL LIVE: She is kind.
AOL LIVE: She is everything her out--
AOL LIVE: everything her outward
AOL LIVE: appearance.
AOL LIVE: People have these ideas about
AOL LIVE: people.
AOL LIVE: She has green hair now.
AOL LIVE: She's wonderful.
AOL LIVE: Host: Wasn't it great when your
AOL LIVE: daughter sent you the letter,
AOL LIVE: then they actually said how much
AOL LIVE: they liked her?
AOL LIVE: Was that a great moment for you
AOL LIVE: and her?
AOL LIVE: Karen: It was, because I loved
AOL LIVE: Brit.
AOL LIVE: I noticed my kids accepted her.
AOL LIVE: If my kids like my friends, they
AOL LIVE: must be good.
AOL LIVE: It's going to be the opposite,
AOL LIVE: where the mom is always
AOL LIVE: dictating who her kids run
AOL LIVE: around with.
AOL LIVE: It's important for me for my
AOL LIVE: kids to like the people I run
AOL LIVE: around with, as well.
AOL LIVE: William was here.
AOL LIVE: He actually said he didn't want
AOL LIVE: to keep in touch with anybody
AOL LIVE: after the show was over.
AOL LIVE: Now, I'm wondering is Brittany
AOL LIVE: somebody you think you'd keep in
AOL LIVE: touch with now that you're out
AOL LIVE: of the house?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I'd like to keep in touch
AOL LIVE: with everybody.
AOL LIVE: I really -- we all went through
AOL LIVE: something really stressful
AOL LIVE: together, that is like
AOL LIVE: unbelievable, and I think
AOL LIVE: they're all -- you know, people
AOL LIVE: -- it's so funny, I talked to my
AOL LIVE: family and my mom has her
AOL LIVE: opinions about all these
AOL LIVE: different people and my friends
AOL LIVE: do as well.
AOL LIVE: And they don't realize because
AOL LIVE: we went through such a difficult
AOL LIVE: time together, we are bonded.
AOL LIVE: There's a part of us that, you
AOL LIVE: know, we can relate to one
AOL LIVE: another.
AOL LIVE: And there are people I liked,
AOL LIVE: but, you know, they weren't my
AOL LIVE: best friends and they probably
AOL LIVE: never will be my best friends.
AOL LIVE: But I have a lot of respect for
AOL LIVE: them because this really took a
AOL LIVE: strong person to stay even just
AOL LIVE: a little bit that I did.
AOL LIVE: These people are going to be
AOL LIVE: there longer.
AOL LIVE: This is funny, Jordan was only
AOL LIVE: there for, you know, four weeks,
AOL LIVE: but Jordan, we had our
AOL LIVE: differences and we resolved
AOL LIVE: them, I believe, but I have a
AOL LIVE: lot of respect for her, as well.
AOL LIVE: I'm anxious to see her again.
AOL LIVE: Host: Well, you nominated josh
AOL LIVE: and Cassandra, then there they
AOL LIVE: were nominated along with you.
AOL LIVE: You know, that must have been an
AOL LIVE: interesting moment.
AOL LIVE: But if you were still in the
AOL LIVE: house, wajama 11 asks who would
AOL LIVE: you have nominated in the coming
AOL LIVE: weeks?
AOL LIVE: Would that have stayed the same?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Oh, probably -- it
AOL LIVE: probably would have been
AOL LIVE: Cassandra again.
AOL LIVE: It's not because I didn't like
AOL LIVE: her.
AOL LIVE: I liked Cassandra.
AOL LIVE: The personality of the house,
AOL LIVE: the way it was, I felt like it
AOL LIVE: was, you know, lighter and, you
AOL LIVE: know, she was probably good
AOL LIVE: because she really kept the
AOL LIVE: house stable.
AOL LIVE: So I guess I didn't want stable.
AOL LIVE: Host: Kind of interesting, there
AOL LIVE: was a poll on AOL recently and
AOL LIVE: 33% said Cassandra would
AOL LIVE: probably be the next person
AOL LIVE: voted out of the house.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I guess that -- I think
AOL LIVE: people see that.
AOL LIVE: You know, she does try.
AOL LIVE: She tries to get crazy with us
AOL LIVE: because it's part of it.
AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" has always given
AOL LIVE: things to her that stretches
AOL LIVE: her, and she does it.
AOL LIVE: She's a good sport.
AOL LIVE: Host: This has got to be hard to
AOL LIVE: narrow down, but L.H.M. --
AOL LIVE: L.M.H. dancer says what is your
AOL LIVE: favorite memory from the house?
AOL LIVE: Karen: This is silly, but the
AOL LIVE: thing that really -- I know
AOL LIVE: people, I don't know what they
AOL LIVE: said on-line if they ever said
AOL LIVE: anything about chickens, but
AOL LIVE: those chickens were an escape
AOL LIVE: from reality for me.
AOL LIVE: They were my pets, my cat, my
AOL LIVE: dog, anything, you know.
AOL LIVE: They --
AOL LIVE: Host: Your cigarettes.
AOL LIVE: That was so funny when George
AOL LIVE: said, you're going to actually
AOL LIVE: smoke the chicken now, aren't
AOL LIVE: you?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I would never do that to
AOL LIVE: those chickens.
AOL LIVE: And that really wasn't that bad.
AOL LIVE: I thought I was going to go stir
AOL LIVE: crazy, but that worked, too.
AOL LIVE: Host: Isn't it kind of weird to
AOL LIVE: have you listen to me sort of
AOL LIVE: talk about all these
AOL LIVE: experiences, and you didn't see
AOL LIVE: any of us watch this along with
AOL LIVE: you?
AOL LIVE: Are you surprised by the
AOL LIVE: intimacy?
AOL LIVE: Karen: You know what surprises
AOL LIVE: me the most, because in the
AOL LIVE: house we speculated whether or
AOL LIVE: not anybody's even watching us.
AOL LIVE: We figure whenever big brother
AOL LIVE: gives us something special, they
AOL LIVE: must be doing OK.
AOL LIVE: Then it got to the point where
AOL LIVE: big brother was only giving us
AOL LIVE: rump roast and pancake batter
AOL LIVE: and pancake syrup.
AOL LIVE: And you're like, must not be
AOL LIVE: doing too well.
AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another
AOL LIVE: question.
AOL LIVE: Skateboarder 5577 says, Karen,
AOL LIVE: do you miss the dog that was in
AOL LIVE: the house?
AOL LIVE: That's Chiquita.
AOL LIVE: You were asked to bring in the
AOL LIVE: new house guest.
AOL LIVE: You guessed who it was.
AOL LIVE: Karen: Maybe I'm wrong, but I
AOL LIVE: think they thought I was ready
AOL LIVE: to collapse mentally.
AOL LIVE: I know they did this in some of
AOL LIVE: the other "Big Brother" houses,
AOL LIVE: but the timing couldn't have
AOL LIVE: been better.
AOL LIVE: I called her Pugsly and
AOL LIVE: Chiquita.
AOL LIVE: She really helped me.
AOL LIVE: It was almost like it was OK for
AOL LIVE: me to sit and read because I was
AOL LIVE: taking care of the family dog.
AOL LIVE: It was nice to have her on my
AOL LIVE: lap.
AOL LIVE: She was good to me.
AOL LIVE: She responded really well.
AOL LIVE: Host: Did she get along with the
AOL LIVE: chickens?
AOL LIVE: Karen: No.
Lazy but Crazy08: (118) hi karen
AOL LIVE: That bothered me.
AOL LIVE: No, she big ap agnes -- no, she
AOL LIVE: bit Agnes.
AOL LIVE: Everybody else thought it was
AOL LIVE: funny because they didn't like
AOL LIVE: the chickens, except Fred.
AOL LIVE: I'm worried about the chickens
AOL LIVE: now.
AOL LIVE: Host: Maybe Brittany will take
AOL LIVE: care of them.
AOL LIVE: Joe D.-fm says how do you think
AOL LIVE: Brittany will get along without
AOL LIVE: threw?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I hope she does well.
AOL LIVE: I love her.
AOL LIVE: She's wonderful.
AOL LIVE: I hope that her parents realize,
AOL LIVE: you know, that -- I know they
AOL LIVE: love her and they think she's
AOL LIVE: wonderful, but I hope they see
AOL LIVE: that she is -- they have to see
Lazy but Crazy08: (118) why did u always have junk wedged between ur teeth?
AOL LIVE: a different side of her.
AOL LIVE: And I hope they got to see all
AOL LIVE: of the different sides, because
AOL LIVE: she is an awesome person.
AOL LIVE: I really feel like Brittany knew
AOL LIVE: that I cared for her, and that
AOL LIVE: she could say anything to me and
AOL LIVE: even if it was the craziest
AOL LIVE: thing or even something mean, I
AOL LIVE: cared, and I hope that somebody
AOL LIVE: else will genuinely care for her
JoeBaccala: (118) she can't see that, Lazy
AOL LIVE: like I did.
AOL LIVE: Host: C.M. white would like to
AOL LIVE: know, who do you think will be
AOL LIVE: in the final three selected?
AOL LIVE: How early on did you kind of
AOL LIVE: make the answer to this question
AOL LIVE: in your own head?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Actually, I had me down
AOL LIVE: in the final four of I was
AOL LIVE: hoping, you know.
AOL LIVE: And I thought it would be George
AOL LIVE: and myself and Eddy and Brit,
AOL LIVE: because there was an alliance
AOL LIVE: there with us.
AOL LIVE: I liked Eddy from the beginning.
AOL LIVE: And then of course Brit and I
AOL LIVE: hit it off.
AOL LIVE: And George was somebody that had
AOL LIVE: something in common with me, he
AOL LIVE: had children too.
AOL LIVE: So I knew it was a good feeling
AOL LIVE: to know that somebody understood
AOL LIVE: what I was going through.
AOL LIVE: So now I can tell you the two
AOL LIVE: that I think I would really love
AOL LIVE: it to be, and that is definitely
AOL LIVE: Brit and Eddy.
AOL LIVE: The third one, that's a tough
AOL LIVE: call, you know.
AOL LIVE: It used to be George that I
AOL LIVE: would think.
AOL LIVE: So for George's sake, it was
AOL LIVE: great for him, because he
AOL LIVE: doesn't want to do roofing
AOL LIVE: anymore.
AOL LIVE: So maybe financially this will
AOL LIVE: be a boost for him.
AOL LIVE: It would be a help.
AOL LIVE: So -- and all three of them
AOL LIVE: could benefit from that, the
AOL LIVE: financial end of it.
AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another
AOL LIVE: question from AOL.
CYBERCAZ: (118) Karen, are you leaving your husband?
AOL LIVE: Janda 43 says, based on the last
AOL LIVE: four days, if you could tell the
AOL LIVE: group in the house one thing
AOL LIVE: now, what would it be?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Based on the last few
AOL LIVE: days?
AOL LIVE: Host: Well, you did get a chance
AOL LIVE: to sort of say good-bye.
AOL LIVE: The other two guests didn't
AOL LIVE: really get that opportunity.
AOL LIVE: Are you kind of glad that you
AOL LIVE: had the opportunity to tell them
AOL LIVE: what you thought?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Yeah.
AOL LIVE: And I guess another thing I
AOL LIVE: would like to tell them is that
AOL LIVE: life on the outside isn't that
AOL LIVE: bad.
AOL LIVE: Because that's always a fear
AOL LIVE: when you're in the house, you
AOL LIVE: know, you have to leave the
AOL LIVE: house and miss the whole
AOL LIVE: experience.
AOL LIVE: I felt like I lived the whole
AOL LIVE: experience.
AOL LIVE: I don't feel deprived.
AOL LIVE: I wanted to -- I thought I had
AOL LIVE: to be there for three months to
AOL LIVE: have the experience.
AOL LIVE: I feel like I got it.
AOL LIVE: Now it's to the point where it's
AOL LIVE: hard.
AOL LIVE: It's going to be painful,
AOL LIVE: nominating and everybody.
AOL LIVE: I got out at the right time.
AOL LIVE: It was perfect.
AOL LIVE: Host: Somebody has the same
AOL LIVE: question I have, work mom 31 --
AOL LIVE: how did you feel about the big
AOL LIVE: brother, the people who gave you
AOL LIVE: the curfews and how they
AOL LIVE: portrayed you in all these
AOL LIVE: challenges and things?
AOL LIVE: They were responsible for
AOL LIVE: throwing in all these with
AOL LIVE: reference to your relationship.
AOL LIVE: How you do feel about big
AOL LIVE: brother?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I was asked that earlier.
AOL LIVE: No, I wasn't.
AOL LIVE: I thought I was just telling
AOL LIVE: somebody about how I felt.
AOL LIVE: I was angry with them a lot of
AOL LIVE: times.
AOL LIVE: We were in the house, we felt
AOL LIVE: like they were manipulating our
AOL LIVE: emotions and everything.
AOL LIVE: They told me they weren't.
AOL LIVE: I actually said -- that was
AOL LIVE: probably the first thing I said
AOL LIVE: to Paul and Doug.
AOL LIVE: They were kind of mean to us.
AOL LIVE: And they said they didn't do it
AOL LIVE: on purpose.
AOL LIVE: See, they didn't know what was
AOL LIVE: going on inside of us because we
AOL LIVE: couldn't all fall apart at the
AOL LIVE: same time, and we couldn't -- a
AOL LIVE: lot of people didn't and they
AOL LIVE: haven't, but inside, trust me,
AOL LIVE: they are -- it's hard.
AOL LIVE: It's so difficult.
AOL LIVE: You have to suppress everything,
Art2heal: (118) why didn't you bid Cass farewell, like you did everyone else?
AOL LIVE: because if you actually allowed
AOL LIVE: yourself to feel all the
AOL LIVE: feelings that you're feeling
AOL LIVE: inside, I think everybody would
AOL LIVE: come undone.
AOL LIVE: Unfortunately, I went too far
AOL LIVE: and I wanted to feel -- I wanted
AOL LIVE: to think about my kids, because
AOL LIVE: I missed them.
AOL LIVE: So the more I thought about my
AOL LIVE: kids, the worse it was for me.
AOL LIVE: But without a doubt, big brother
AOL LIVE: was good to us.
AOL LIVE: You know, I don't have anything
AOL LIVE: bad to say about CBS.
AOL LIVE: The way they portrayed me, some
AOL LIVE: things I don't agree with, you
AOL LIVE: know.
AOL LIVE: And it's not the way they
AOL LIVE: portrayed me.
AOL LIVE: They couldn't show me 24/7, so
AOL LIVE: they did the best that they
AOL LIVE: could.
AOL LIVE: But the story editors were
AOL LIVE: great.
AOL LIVE: Host: Now that you're out of the
AOL LIVE: house, you get to watch the
AOL LIVE: show.
AOL LIVE: So janda 2000 says will you
AOL LIVE: watch "Big Brother" on TV?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I'm angry, I missed it
AOL LIVE: last night.
AOL LIVE: We went for a walk and didn't
AOL LIVE: get back until after it was over
AOL LIVE: with.
AOL LIVE: I would have liked to have seen
AOL LIVE: it.
AOL LIVE: I'm sure somebody taped it and
AOL LIVE: I'll see it.
AOL LIVE: Yeah, I will watch it.
AOL LIVE: I will watch it probably it will
AOL LIVE: be emotional for me, though,
AOL LIVE: because I can relate now more
AOL LIVE: than ever what these people are
AOL LIVE: going through.
AOL LIVE: And I'm sympathetic.
AOL LIVE: Host: How is all this being out
AOL LIVE: of the house treated you?
AOL LIVE: How quickly are you able to
AOL LIVE: adjust?
AOL LIVE: Did you get to talk to your
AOL LIVE: family right away?
AOL LIVE: Karen: It was crazy.
AOL LIVE: The first night was a mess.
AOL LIVE: I went into the place on sunset
AOL LIVE: and it was some country-western
AOL LIVE: place, and --
AOL LIVE: Host: The place with the bulls?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, yes, yes.
AOL LIVE: Host: OK.
AOL LIVE: I go there, too, so I guess I
AOL LIVE: could be on the show.
AOL LIVE: Karen: The place was so loud.
AOL LIVE: I haven't had music.
AOL LIVE: I haven't had TV.
AOL LIVE: They had TV screens all over the
AOL LIVE: place and the music was loud.
AOL LIVE: My head was pounding and I was
AOL LIVE: totally overwhelmed, because the
AOL LIVE: first thing I heard from my
AOL LIVE: children, well, all the mean
AOL LIVE: things people are saying about
AOL LIVE: me.
AOL LIVE: And that hurt because I don't
AOL LIVE: think of myself as a terrible
AOL LIVE: person, so I was hurt that they
AOL LIVE: didn't know my heart.
AOL LIVE: Or why I said what I said,
AOL LIVE: because you can't clear up
AOL LIVE: things because you don't know
AOL LIVE: about them.
AOL LIVE: So that was a real struggle for
AOL LIVE: me.
AOL LIVE: I don't know, it was -- what was
AOL LIVE: it?
AOL LIVE: I don't know what else I was
AOL LIVE: supposed to answer, but go
AOL LIVE: ahead.
AOL LIVE: Host: We've got another question
AOL LIVE: from J.B. jizzmo 819, what's in
AOL LIVE: the future for you and have you
AOL LIVE: gotten any TV offers?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, I've gotten some
AOL LIVE: offers.
AOL LIVE: Host: Really?
AOL LIVE: Excellent.
AOL LIVE: Karen: Three of them so far.
AOL LIVE: Host: Incredible.
AOL LIVE: That's great.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't expect it.
AOL LIVE: I thought I would do the show
AOL LIVE: and I didn't realize I was going
AOL LIVE: to be controversial.
AOL LIVE: So I thought I would do the show
AOL LIVE: and go home, be with my kids and
AOL LIVE: life would kind of fall into the
AOL LIVE: same rut.
AOL LIVE: But anyway I'm amazed, and the
AOL LIVE: people here have been so
AOL LIVE: awesome.
AOL LIVE: You know, I walk Don the street,
AOL LIVE: I have not heard one negative
AOL LIVE: comment.
AOL LIVE: People come up to me and tell me
AOL LIVE: they love me, I was their
AOL LIVE: favorite.
AOL LIVE: People drive down Sunset
AOL LIVE: Boulevard and scream out, "we
AOL LIVE: love you, Karen."
AOL LIVE: I'm amazed, because from
AOL LIVE: everything I heard I felt
AOL LIVE: everybody hated me.
AOL LIVE: It was hurtful to me, because I
AOL LIVE: don't hate anybody, you know.
AOL LIVE: And I couldn't understand how
AOL LIVE: people could pur receive me as
AOL LIVE: being bad -- people could
AOL LIVE: perceive me as being bad.
AOL LIVE: That was tough.
AOL LIVE: Host: I guess it would be hard
AOL LIVE: to not take those personally,
AOL LIVE: but you had to vote people for
AOL LIVE: banishment.
AOL LIVE: Kate wants to know, did you
AOL LIVE: blame anyone in the house for
AOL LIVE: banishing you?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I don't.
AOL LIVE: The funny part is I voted for
AOL LIVE: Josh and ca sand rafment I guess
AOL LIVE: I can't -- and Cassandra.
AOL LIVE: I guess I can't say anything
AOL LIVE: about that.
AOL LIVE: The first time when your hear
AOL LIVE: you're nominated, this is the
AOL LIVE: tough part, and I feel for
AOL LIVE: Jordan because Jordan was the
AOL LIVE: first to react, and it's a
AOL LIVE: personal attack.
AOL LIVE: And I understand why Jordan felt
AOL LIVE: that way.
AOL LIVE: And nobody else, unless they've
AOL LIVE: been there, can relate.
AOL LIVE: But you feel like they're
AOL LIVE: saying, I don't want you.
AOL LIVE: So I felt that way.
AOL LIVE: Even though I wanted to be
AOL LIVE: nominated, it still hurts.
AOL LIVE: Even if I would have gotten --
AOL LIVE: if everybody in the house
AOL LIVE: nominated me and I asked them
AOL LIVE: to, I think if they would have
AOL LIVE: said everybody nominated me, I
AOL LIVE: would have been like
AOL LIVE: [gasps]
AOL LIVE: even though I asked them to.
AOL LIVE: It's like they're judging you.
AOL LIVE: When I heard it was Jamie, I
AOL LIVE: didn't know why, you know, I
AOL LIVE: just -- and I knew it was Jamie.
AOL LIVE: We were laying on the bed and
AOL LIVE: there was something she said or
AOL LIVE: did, and it was like all of a
AOL LIVE: sudden, the lights went off in
AOL LIVE: my head.
AOL LIVE: I'm like oh, my gosh, she
AOL LIVE: nominated me.
AOL LIVE: Luckily because of that, when
AOL LIVE: Julie asked me on the show and I
AOL LIVE: told her it was Jamie, I was
AOL LIVE: glad, because I would have been
AOL LIVE: unprepared and would have had
AOL LIVE: the same look when they told me
AOL LIVE: I had three nominated votes.
AOL LIVE: I would have been like
AOL LIVE: [gasps]
AOL LIVE: so I was glad I figured that out
AOL LIVE: before I heard it.
AOL LIVE: Host: How often did you think
AOL LIVE: about the $500,000, about the
AOL LIVE: winning?
AOL LIVE: Karen: It probably didn't hit me
AOL LIVE: till the third week.
AOL LIVE: It was like, OK, I'm making it,
AOL LIVE: I'm doing this, wow, this would
AOL LIVE: be cool.
AOL LIVE: And then as I started falling
AOL LIVE: apart and found myself -- I
AOL LIVE: don't know, I felt like I was
AOL LIVE: losing who I was.
AOL LIVE: That bothered me a lot.
AOL LIVE: Then, all of a sudden, I knew I
AOL LIVE: wanted to see my kids and I
AOL LIVE: thought, OK, I'm only halfway.
AOL LIVE: Oh, my gosh, there's no way.
AOL LIVE: You know?
AOL LIVE: Everything else -- I refuse to
AOL LIVE: lose myself over money, and I
AOL LIVE: needed to know that my kids were
AOL LIVE: OK and happy, that they -- you
AOL LIVE: know, I didn't know.
AOL LIVE: They may have missed me so much
AOL LIVE: and wanted me off the show, but
AOL LIVE: wanted me to stay if that was
AOL LIVE: what I wanted.
AOL LIVE: I kept trying to figure, this
AOL LIVE: what they want?
AOL LIVE: Is this what I want?
AOL LIVE: Then I thought, it doesn't
AOL LIVE: matter.
AOL LIVE: I have to see them and know.
AOL LIVE: I need that peace of mind.
AOL LIVE: Host: Well, n-dice wants to
AOL LIVE: know, Karen, are you still not
AOL LIVE: smoking?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I wish I could say I'm
AOL LIVE: not, but I am.
AOL LIVE: I think it will be easier now.
AOL LIVE: I look at it like OK if I could
AOL LIVE: not smoke during nomination
AOL LIVE: week, you know, and through all
AOL LIVE: of that, gosh, I could surely
AOL LIVE: quit, right?
AOL LIVE: And that was stressful.
AOL LIVE: So I always said I needed it for
AOL LIVE: stress.
AOL LIVE: So I -- I'm not smoking as much.
AOL LIVE: I find that to be true.
AOL LIVE: And I'm not even chewing
AOL LIVE: Nicorette gum.
AOL LIVE: Host: I know a lot of friends
AOL LIVE: who smoke, so I was laughing the
AOL LIVE: whole time, going, yeah, I know.
AOL LIVE: I would like to see a lot of my
AOL LIVE: friends in the same position to
AOL LIVE: see if they could last.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I think everybody thought
AOL LIVE: I was going to lose it, just
AOL LIVE: blow up and yell at everybody,
AOL LIVE: because that's what I do at home
AOL LIVE: when I can't smoke.
AOL LIVE: But I didn't yell at anybody.
AOL LIVE: Host: Kinda 97 says, would you
AOL LIVE: let your own daughter on a show
AOL LIVE: like this?
AOL LIVE: Karen: First, you have to be 21,
AOL LIVE: so luckily she wouldn't be of
AOL LIVE: age.
AOL LIVE: And I would strongly urge her
AOL LIVE: not to, because I think part of
AOL LIVE: the reality stuff is in dealing
AOL LIVE: with people in such a small
AOL LIVE: environment and having everybody
AOL LIVE: watch you, you're bound -- your
AOL LIVE: flaws are bound to show.
AOL LIVE: And when your flaws show, I
AOL LIVE: think people are quick to judge.
AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, you know, I
AOL LIVE: think my daughter's wonderful
AOL LIVE: and I couldn't watch her be --
AOL LIVE: you know, I couldn't watch
AOL LIVE: problems and watching her make
AOL LIVE: mistakes or whatever.
AOL LIVE: You know, I'm sure everybody
AOL LIVE: thought I made quite a few
AOL LIVE: mistakes, and I probably did.
AOL LIVE: You know, I know I did.
AOL LIVE: There were a few things that I
AOL LIVE: probably would never repeat.
AOL LIVE: So it would be hurtful for me.
AOL LIVE: Funny, my mom watched it and my
AOL LIVE: mom, she still loves me.
AOL LIVE: I talked to her for two hours
AOL LIVE: and she was so supportive.
AOL LIVE: It meant the world to me that
AOL LIVE: she didn't ever say, Karen,
AOL LIVE: shouldn't have done this or
AOL LIVE: shouldn't have done that.
AOL LIVE: She wanted to make sure I was
AOL LIVE: OK.
AOL LIVE: That's real mom.
AOL LIVE: Host: Next question -- what was
AOL LIVE: everyone's favorite meal in the
AOL LIVE: house?
AOL LIVE: And and can you give us a little
AOL LIVE: insight for those who don't know
AOL LIVE: how you get the food and the
AOL LIVE: alotment is made and you decide
AOL LIVE: what you're going to meet?
AOL LIVE: -- what you're going to eat.
AOL LIVE: Karen: You get $5 a person per
AOL LIVE: day.
AOL LIVE: Then you get your weekly
AOL LIVE: challenges and you have to wager
AOL LIVE: a portion of that, anywhere from
AOL LIVE: 20% to 50%.
AOL LIVE: So of course, we always had 20%.
AOL LIVE: Except for the bike.
AOL LIVE: Then we did 50.
AOL LIVE: One time I think we did 30%.
AOL LIVE: Then we had a basic list from
AOL LIVE: Big Brother, so our list wasn't
AOL LIVE: very comprehensive.
AOL LIVE: It was like staples and fruits
AOL LIVE: and vegetables,enges things like
AOL LIVE: that.
AOL LIVE: And then we would just order it.
AOL LIVE: I was kind of dominating that,
AOL LIVE: only because I knew what I
AOL LIVE: needed to make things from
AOL LIVE: scratch, because I knew that
AOL LIVE: would help stretch our budget.
AOL LIVE: Host: You know what Curtis said
AOL LIVE: when you were banished?
AOL LIVE: The food gets substantially
AOL LIVE: worse now.
AOL LIVE: So they're glad that you had
AOL LIVE: control.
AOL LIVE: It sounds like they loved your
AOL LIVE: cooking.
AOL LIVE: Karen: Yeah, we had apple pie,
AOL LIVE: brownies and cakes.
AOL LIVE: I made a lot of things from
AOL LIVE: scratch.
AOL LIVE: Host: This is our last question,
AOL LIVE: believe it or no.
AOL LIVE: .
AOL LIVE: L.M.H. dancer says, if you let
AOL LIVE: Brittany die your hair, what
AOL LIVE: color would you have wanted her
AOL LIVE: to dye it?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Purple.
AOL LIVE: Host: It would go great with the
AOL LIVE: out fit.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I know.
AOL LIVE: I really did want to, but I was
AOL LIVE: scared if I went out, I wanted
AOL LIVE: to be mom.
AOL LIVE: So I got to leave the house and
AOL LIVE: be who I was.
AOL LIVE: Host: Well, thank you for all of
AOL LIVE: your insight today.
AOL LIVE: Now you can go do just that.
AOL LIVE: Karen: That's right.
AOL LIVE: Host: Thanks for joining AOL
AOL LIVE: Live.
AOL LIVE: Thank you to all of you for
AOL LIVE: joining big brother 2000.com.
AOL LIVE: And watch CBS.

Zelda

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:34 pm Click here to edit this post

I got to the chat room a little late but this is at least part of it... I can get the transcripts later.

Zelda

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:40 pm Click here to edit this post

The AOL LIVE is what was broadcasted .. the random posters were in my chat row and were not heard by the host or Karen ... guess they didn't get how it worked. The questions were sumitted earlier.

Cathie

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Zelda - I think this is everything before you came in:

AOL LIVE: Host: Welcome, everybody, to
AOL LIVE: America Online live.
AOL LIVE: I'm Robert Ell, and joining us
AOL LIVE: in the studio today is -- well,
AOL LIVE: you've got a few names here.
AOL LIVE: Mob.
AOL LIVE: Mad dog.
AOL LIVE: Karen springer.
AOL LIVE: Do you mind if we just call you
AOL LIVE: Karen?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Yes, please.
AOL LIVE: Host: Welcome to big brother
AOL LIVE: 2000.com, everybody.
AOL LIVE: Tonight we'll be chatting with
AOL LIVE: our third banished house guest,
AOL LIVE: Karen.
AOL LIVE: Thank you for joining us
AOL LIVE: tonight.
AOL LIVE: Karen: Thank you for having me.
AOL LIVE: Host: Are you ready and prepared
AOL LIVE: to meet your fans on line?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I think so.
AOL LIVE: Host: Have you had a chance to
AOL LIVE: go on line at all to see what
AOL LIVE: the experience is like for all
AOL LIVE: of us and how we're really
AOL LIVE: seeing you?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I guess I heard about it
AOL LIVE: through family, and I heard a
AOL LIVE: lot of negative, so I guess I'm
AOL LIVE: a little nervous.
AOL LIVE: Host: Well, don't be nervous.
AOL LIVE: Everybody joining you here today
AOL LIVE: is interested and fascinated by
AOL LIVE: what you've just done.
AOL LIVE: What an incredibly unique
AOL LIVE: experience for all of us who
AOL LIVE: were able to watch "Big
AOL LIVE: Brother."
AOL LIVE: Why don't we go right to the
AOL LIVE: questions.
AOL LIVE: Moon glow asks, by being in the
AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" house, how much
AOL LIVE: did you learn about yourself?
AOL LIVE: And what, if anything, was an
AOL LIVE: eye opener for you?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Oh, I don't know.
AOL LIVE: There was so much I learned
AOL LIVE: about myself.
AOL LIVE: There are things probably that I
AOL LIVE: thought were important, probably
AOL LIVE: weren't as important as I
AOL LIVE: thought they were.
AOL LIVE: So I need to totally relax about
AOL LIVE: little things, don't sweat the
AOL LIVE: small stuff.
AOL LIVE: The eye opener, oh, the eye
AOL LIVE: opener is probably that I can
AOL LIVE: learn how to -- I can be with
AOL LIVE: people that are controversial
AOL LIVE: now, I think.
AOL LIVE: I can deal with it better than I
AOL LIVE: could before.
AOL LIVE: Before, I always avoided
AOL LIVE: controversial people, and I just
AOL LIVE: would remove myself from it.
AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, I had to deal
AOL LIVE: with some problems in the house
AOL LIVE: from the very beginning, and I
AOL LIVE: was able to talk to those people
AOL LIVE: and work it out.
AOL LIVE: Host: What a great life lesson.
AOL LIVE: I mean, that's amazing.
AOL LIVE: That's fabulous.
AOL LIVE: Most people can't overcome
AOL LIVE: something like that.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I just hope it stays.
AOL LIVE: I had to do it there, you know.
AOL LIVE: But it was good because it was
AOL LIVE: -- it really pushed me, you
AOL LIVE: know, and it made me realize
AOL LIVE: that I was stronger than what I
AOL LIVE: really was.
AOL LIVE: Host: Let's take another
AOL LIVE: question from AOL.
AOL LIVE: Linda would like to know, Karen,
AOL LIVE: Linda would like to know, Karen,
AOL LIVE: if you had the opportunity to go
AOL LIVE: back to the first days in the
AOL LIVE: "Big Brother" house, what would
AOL LIVE: you do dimple?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Well, I think I can
AOL LIVE: address -- what would you do
AOL LIVE: differently?
AOL LIVE: Karen: Well, I think I can
AOL LIVE: address that.
AOL LIVE: I'm sure it's my disclosure
AOL LIVE: about my married life.
AOL LIVE: And I wouldn't change it.
AOL LIVE: The only thing that I think
AOL LIVE: bothered me was I think the TV
AOL LIVE: audience probably didn't get the
AOL LIVE: full effect.
AOL LIVE: Obviously, they didn't -- it
AOL LIVE: would have been a long show.
AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, even the
AOL LIVE: on-line people, they don't know
AOL LIVE: my heart.
AOL LIVE: They don't know exactly what's
AOL LIVE: going on inside of me.
AOL LIVE: And the 22 years that I
AOL LIVE: experienced.
AOL LIVE: I mean, I'm not saying that it
AOL LIVE: was awful.
AOL LIVE: But it was stressful.
AOL LIVE: It was -- it's been a hard
AOL LIVE: marriage.
AOL LIVE: And I guess I would probably
AOL LIVE: stress that -- you know, that my
AOL LIVE: husband is a good person.
AOL LIVE: We just probably were not made
AOL LIVE: for each other.
AOL LIVE: We're total opposites.
AOL LIVE: And as much as we've tried to
AOL LIVE: work things out, tried to make
AOL LIVE: it look like we have a perfect
AOL LIVE: family, things aren't perfect,
AOL LIVE: you know?
AOL LIVE: And unfortunately, they're not.
AOL LIVE: Because my ideal is to have --
AOL LIVE: be married to the same man, you
AOL LIVE: know, forever, and to have a
AOL LIVE: house where kids can bring their
AOL LIVE: grandkids to our house and they
AOL LIVE: have grandma and grandpa, you
AOL LIVE: know?
AOL LIVE: And I like those ideals.
AOL LIVE: I like that little fairy tale
AOL LIVE: arrangement.
AOL LIVE: But it doesn't always work.
AOL LIVE: And I know, you know, somewhere
AOL LIVE: down the road, you know, when
AOL LIVE: things happen that we're not
AOL LIVE: together, you know, it can work.
AOL LIVE: I've seen it work in a lot of
AOL LIVE: other families.
AOL LIVE: But it's a disappointment to me
AOL LIVE: that I couldn't share those
AOL LIVE: feelings, as well, because it
AOL LIVE: wasn't all about me.
AOL LIVE: You know, it was about me and
AOL LIVE: nine other house guests, so I
AOL LIVE: couldn't really share it.
AOL LIVE: But they had to know me.
AOL LIVE: That's the one thing I guess I
AOL LIVE: probably got the most feedback
AOL LIVE: on, was that people were angry
AOL LIVE: with me because of saying these
AOL LIVE: things, you know, hurting my
AOL LIVE: husband.
AOL LIVE: And -- but I want everybody to
AOL LIVE: know that I had to share that,
AOL LIVE: because I wanted people to know
AOL LIVE: who I was.
AOL LIVE: And I didn't feel like I could
AOL LIVE: get to know my other house
AOL LIVE: guests and they couldn't get to
AOL LIVE: know me unless I was honest with
AOL LIVE: them.
AOL LIVE: And I couldn't pretend like I
AOL LIVE: had a perfect life.
AOL LIVE: Host: Braeden would like to
AOL LIVE: know, will you and your husband
AOL LIVE: stay together and seek
AOL LIVE: counseling?
AOL LIVE: It sounds like you pretty much
AOL LIVE: have decided like counseling may
AOL LIVE: not actually --
AOL LIVE: Karen: We've gone to counseling

AOL LIVE: together, and I -- you know, it
AOL LIVE: remains to be seen.
AOL LIVE: You know, I've only spoken with
AOL LIVE: him probably for just that brief
AOL LIVE: -- you know, when they saw me on
AOL LIVE: TV.
AOL LIVE: And then I saw him probably for
AOL LIVE: just maybe 15 minutes at night,
AOL LIVE: alone.
AOL LIVE: We talked and I thanked him for
AOL LIVE: being there, because that was
AOL LIVE: important to me that he was.
AOL LIVE: There I wanted him to -- I
AOL LIVE: wanted him to be there, just
AOL LIVE: because I wanted to thank him
AOL LIVE: for knowing that he did take
AOL LIVE: care of the kids.
AOL LIVE: I knew that they were well fed
AOL LIVE: and he was there for them when I
AOL LIVE: wasn't, and that meant a lot.
AOL LIVE: Host: Have you had the chance to
AOL LIVE: meet any people yet that have
AOL LIVE: recognized you, you know, from
AOL LIVE: the show?
AOL LIVE: Because on-line, at least I've
AOL LIVE: noticed, there are so many moms
AOL LIVE: out there, you know, people
AOL LIVE: going through what you went
AOL LIVE: through, and you've kind of
AOL LIVE: become a hero for them.
AOL LIVE: In that regard.
AOL LIVE: Karen: That's scary, you know,
AOL LIVE: because I don't -- I'm not a
AOL LIVE: perfect wife.
AOL LIVE: I'm not a perfect person, you
AOL LIVE: know.
AOL LIVE: And I guess that's what scared
AOL LIVE: me the most was somebody would
AOL LIVE: think that I was representing,
AOL LIVE: you know, a mom, I was
AOL LIVE: representing a married person,
AOL LIVE: because I wish I could say that
AOL LIVE: I have led this perfect life and
AOL LIVE: everything's been wonderful.
AOL LIVE: It hasn't.
AOL LIVE: It hasn't.
AOL LIVE: And I feel like every
AOL LIVE: circumstance is different, and I
AOL LIVE: would hate to think that I would
AOL LIVE: motivate somebody to leave their
AOL LIVE: husband without really
AOL LIVE: exploring, you know, every,
AOL LIVE: every way of resolving that
AOL LIVE: difference.
AOL LIVE: Host: Fair enough.
AOL LIVE: And I'm sure you have.
AOL LIVE: Cheesy big grub, kind of an
AOL LIVE: interesting name, Karen, what
AOL LIVE: was your most embarrassing
AOL LIVE: moment?
AOL LIVE: Karen: It wasn't embarrassing on
AOL LIVE: the show, I don't think, but it
AOL LIVE: was embarrassing when I found
AOL LIVE: out I Mooned the camera.
AOL LIVE: I thought it was prifed.
AOL LIVE: That was in the camera -- that
AOL LIVE: was in the bathroom.
AOL LIVE: Host: There was a camera
AOL LIVE: everywhere.
AOL LIVE: That was one of my favorite
AOL LIVE: moments, when you -- not that
AOL LIVE: moment, but when you were told
AOL LIVE: there was a camera behind the
AOL LIVE: mere where you did that in the
AOL LIVE: bathroom.
AOL LIVE: I mean, you really were
AOL LIVE: surprised by that?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I was.
AOL LIVE: But then I heard it, every time
AOL LIVE: I go past it, you hear on the
AOL LIVE: camera track or whatever, you
AOL LIVE: hear them, and I'm like, oh, my
AOL LIVE: gosh.
AOL LIVE: I learned whenever I blew my
AOL LIVE: nose to make sure my nose was
AOL LIVE: clean.
AOL LIVE: Host: Next question, what did
AOL LIVE: you do about the showers?
AOL LIVE: You talked about this before you
AOL LIVE: came on.
AOL LIVE: Did you forget there were
AOL LIVE: cameras in the showers, as well?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't forget, but when
AOL LIVE: I first was at the house, I
AOL LIVE: don't know why I did this,
AOL LIVE: either, I was taking a shower
AOL LIVE: and I turned around to rinse my
AOL LIVE: hair out, realized I was giving
AOL LIVE: them a full frontal view and I
AOL LIVE: was like -- it really made me
AOL LIVE: upset.
AOL LIVE: From then on, id tried to stay
AOL LIVE: away from the corner where the
AOL LIVE: camera was and close to the
AOL LIVE: faucet.
AOL LIVE: Because of that, the water would
AOL LIVE: splash out and there would be a
AOL LIVE: flood when you got out of the
AOL LIVE: shower, all this water on the
AOL LIVE: floor.
AOL LIVE: Host: You revealed something to
AOL LIVE: me earlier before, you said
AOL LIVE: you're klaus ro phobic.
AOL LIVE: I went -- claustrophobic.
AOL LIVE: How in the world you did stay as
AOL LIVE: long as you did?
AOL LIVE: Tony 498 asks, did you ever
AOL LIVE: think about walking out of the
AOL LIVE: door even before you were
AOL LIVE: nominated?
AOL LIVE: Did you realize what you were
AOL LIVE: stepping into when you walked
AOL LIVE: into this "Big Brother" house?
AOL LIVE: Karen: I didn't feel like
AOL LIVE: walking out the door until I
AOL LIVE: couldn't resolve the issues with
AOL LIVE: my kids.
AOL LIVE: You know, that was -- I feared
AOL LIVE: that I would walk out of door
AOL LIVE: because of the claustrophobia,
AOL LIVE: because there were nights I had
AOL LIVE: to force myself to fall asleep
AOL LIVE: and totally clear my head,
AOL LIVE: because I felt like I was ready
AOL LIVE: to explode, because I needed
AOL LIVE: air.
AOL LIVE: There were times you'd go in
AOL LIVE: this little bedroom and I'd
AOL LIVE: sleep against the wall.
AOL LIVE: Of course, I lived in the love
AOL LIVE: bed, so there were lots of
AOL LIVE: people in our bed.
AOL LIVE: Host: That's an Aaron Spelling
AOL LIVE: show waiting to happen.
AOL LIVE: Karen: I'd nobody the bed in the
AOL LIVE: corner and the room, like they
AOL LIVE: wouldn't have the air on at
AOL LIVE: certain times, you know, you
AOL LIVE: wouldn't have any air blowing,
AOL LIVE: and the doors are shut, so it
AOL LIVE: was perfectly black in the room
AOL LIVE: and no air, and I had to fall
AOL LIVE: asleep.
AOL LIVE: So I could clear my mind luckily
AOL LIVE: to the point of falling asleep
AOL LIVE: but not losing it.
AOL LIVE: Host: I'm going to combine a
AOL LIVE: question somebody posted on the
AOL LIVE: board with the next AOL
AOL LIVE: question.
AOL LIVE: OK, beatle mar said when Karen
AOL LIVE: is banished she wished someone
AOL LIVE: kiss.
AOL LIVE: Would you please have George
AOL LIVE: hamilton there to greet her with
AOL LIVE: the kiss of her life.
AOL LIVE: Did you get your kiss?
AOL LIVE: Karen: No, I didn't get my kiss.
AOL LIVE: I'll get it some day, surely.
AOL LIVE: I would rather have somebody
AOL LIVE: else like Tom Green.
AOL LIVE: I love Tom, I love Jim carrey,
AOL LIVE: Louie anderson, Kramer.
AOL LIVE: I would have taken any of them.
AOL LIVE: Host: We have a lot of stars
AOL LIVE: come in here, so if we get a
AOL LIVE: chance to talk to them about
AOL LIVE: kissing you, I will do whatever
AOL LIVE: I can.

Zelda

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:54 pm Click here to edit this post

You're the best Cathie! I really wanted everyone to see it that weren't able to get to the chat room... Thanks!

Cathie

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 04:59 pm Click here to edit this post

I was happy to do it - this site has been sooooo helpful to me with the live feeds, so I'm glad to pay back a bit! :)

Zelda

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:25 pm Click here to edit this post

Admin: I just posted an apology in other discussions. I didn't realize that we were not to do this because of the length. My bad

Murphy

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Zelda - Thank you for the transcript. Other MBoards have posted it, too.

Zelda

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:40 pm Click here to edit this post

You're welcome... Cathie was great and added what I didn't get. Lots of misspelled words etc... Love that AOL chat stuff (ha) but you can get the jest of it.

Puttergirl

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post

LAME... LAME... LAME... LAME

If the questions they threw at her had been any softer, they would have evaporated into thin air.

Bigbrofan

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 05:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Thanks a lot! I missed it too! I appreciate it!

Zlfd

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Thanks for posting this. It was just as lame as I figured it would be.

Twiggyish

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 06:56 pm Click here to edit this post

I enjoyed reading that, thank you for sharing.

Ccc

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 07:01 pm Click here to edit this post

Thanks Zelda and Cathie

Moderator

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 10:48 pm Click here to edit this post

relocated from the general discussion area
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Egbok77

Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:05 am Click here to edit this post

Thank you Cathie and Zelda for helping this BB Addict get her fix. Also to those who complained, that is SO not right to say the AOL chat with Karen was lame. (a Karenism!!)

Spaga

Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 10:40 am Click here to edit this post

To Cathie and Zelda for the chat script - THANKS A BUNCH. You both did so well. Enjoyed reading it very much. Couldn't get in on the live chat so you really helped me out too.

Laura

Saturday, August 19, 2000 - 12:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Thanks cathie and zelda !!! We appreciate it. But the interview was really boring. Everyone treats Karen with baby gloves. Is everyone so afraid that she will melt down that easily ?? I wonder why ?? And another thing, how many times did she said "you know" ? Get her a dictionary to expand her vocabulary. I didn't want to be rude, but you know !!!