Archive through September 26, 2000

The ClubHouse: Big Brother 2000: General - Archives: Houseguests: Eddie: No more booze for Eddie: Archive through September 26, 2000

Lulu

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie said today that he's going to stop drinking alcohol, that he's been boozing too much for a while and especially in the house. Yesterday he talked about how his kidneys are shot due to his illness. I hope he's okay - do you think he's hurting?

Wendy

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:00 pm Click here to edit this post

He seems to be hurting often, but seems to recuperate quickly. As far as him not drinking anymore, this afternoon Josh pointed out they have Guinness to drink tonight and Eddie was happy about that. He'll probably get wastes tonight. He also talked about asking for champagne for Friday.

Lulu

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:07 pm Click here to edit this post

I hope you're right about his recuperative abilities. He's also been worried about Monica, thinking she's breaking up with him. He said he'd start drinking again if she's not there when he leaves the house. Eddie has pride and always tries to act tough or joke about things, but you know he goes through so much pain that he doesn't want to reveal.

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:23 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie is a sad case.

On the one hand, he condemns those who don't take advantage of life, and choose to waste time or damage themselves with drugs or booze.

On the other hand, he drinks to excess, knowing he has a medical condition which causes him to be vulnerable to substantial health risks as a result.

I am now convinced he has earned my pity.


There is more discussion here:

"Tonight's show - Eddie in RR"

http://www.bomis.com/bigbrother/discus/messages/65/5593.html?969996256

Franny1

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:00 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever, you are just a ray of sunshine...face it no matter what happens or what is said you will fly from thread to thread spewing your nasty Eddie comments. God it must be great to be so perfect.

Webrover9

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:06 pm Click here to edit this post

I believe that Eddie has a drinking problem. He talks about others wasting their lives and yet he will continue drinking. He already mentioned Monika didn't like it which tells me he may not have very good control of it. I think there may be opportunities for him but he may blow it with the booze.

Kuh

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Franny1 - Whatever makes a very valid point here, it's not petty and it's not motivated by hatred. Eddie has stated he's appalled by the waste an alcoholic makes of his life and yet he drinks excessive amounts of beer in one sitting. He's being hypocritical, it's just another example of Eddie's all talk-no action mentality. He talks a good game, but he has trouble living up to his own standards.

Nance

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:15 pm Click here to edit this post

With all that Eddie has been through it surprises me that he has faired as well as he has....
I am surprised Eddie's has not turned to hard drugs or chose to just give up when he lost his leg and almost lost his life.
The reason Monica doesn't like Eddie drinking is because of his kidneys,one is damaged. Eddie said he didn't like that Monica smokes so it evens itself out.

Mlady

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:18 pm Click here to edit this post

I think Whatever and Kuh are related...they have the same pessimestic attitudes.....but again, everyone to their own opinion. :(

Kuh

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:21 pm Click here to edit this post

Nance - With all Eddie's been through, you'd think he'd have the sense not to further damage his body by drinking alcohol. It is ridiculous for him to be appalled by an alcoholic's wasteful existence and then turn around and damage his own body with alcohol, the hypocrisy is blatant. Stop making excuses, it does the guy no good to make excuses.

Annah

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:25 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever:
Gosh, who will you turn your hate on after Ed wins on Friday?

This board says "vengeful and hateful posts will not be tolerated"....yet you continue to do it on every thread possible.

Ed doesn't need your pity. You need the pity yourself.

Lulu

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:26 pm Click here to edit this post

When Eddie talked about alcoholics and drug addicts, he was referring to how they waste their lives by not doing anything except abuse substances. Eddie goes to college, plays on his team, has a girlfriend and is trying his best to get ahead. Yes, he has too much beer sometimes, but what 21 year old guy doesn't? He's not being a hypocrite, he's being honest about how much it pains him to see people limit themselves when they have the physical ability to do everything he wishes he could do. Like he said, he would kill to be able to run on the beach, so when he sees an addict choosing to opt out of living, it's unbearable.

Annah

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:26 pm Click here to edit this post

Kuh: and what is your excuse?

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:28 pm Click here to edit this post

It's sad that anyone could find something "vengeful and hateful" in the expression of compassion for another human being.

Nance

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Kuh ....whatever lol you have your opinion and I have mine ! cheers

Kuh

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Lulu - I'm tired of hearing 'he's only 21' as if that should excuse him. It doesn't. It's unbearable for me to see the guy ruining his kidneys night after night, no matter his age. There's something blatantly hypocritical about a guy who complains about waste, wasted time and wasted existence, when he's the most wasteful person in the house. I'm bashing Eddie, making excuses for nasty or damaging behavior is not going to help him.

Jwmalibu

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie's showing a number of classic symptoms of alcoholism:

- obsessing on drinking, as he did during periods when they had no alcohol in the house..."I NEED a beer", etc...

- drinking to excess on virtually every occasion that alcohol was available in the house...

- obsessing on how others view his drinking (i.e., Monika)

- justifying his own level of consumption by comparing his drinking with those of a skid row bum (here's a clue, Ed: not all alcoholics are bums, some are politicians, doctors, executives, etc...)

- talking about "quitting" drinking, and then "starting to drink again" if Monika is not there to greet him on Friday...

- drinking despite the fact that he knows his body has been impaired from his prior health problems; continuing to drink despite the resultant physical pain of his kidneys...

I'm fine if Eddie wins, he really needs the money...but he needs to take a closer look at his drinking.

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Lulu:

There is a big difference between Eddie's drinking and "other 21 year old guys", because Eddie has health problems with his kidneys, and is very aware that drinking exacerbates those problems detrimentally.

Eddie has stated his drinking seriously damages his health, to the extent other people in his life are seriously also concerned about it.

Eddie supporters and fanatics who say they like him should be a little more careful and concerned for his well-being, I should think.

I wouldn't go so far as to say he should not win BB, if only as a life lesson that prompts him to get serious awareness and subsequent help for his problems.

Rufusgriswold

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever, when are you going to learn that you can't act like Eddie here and be admired for it. Rudeness and aggressive behavior are only attractive on television. :)

Lulu

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Kuh - You're right and I agree that it is painful to see Eddie hurt himself by drinking. But I also think that he tries to be a functioning member of the house: never complaining about the dance challenge, sumo, etc., even opening up more recently about his feelings (which is very hard for him to do given his defenses).
You're also right that excuses won't help him, but I think he's working his way through some of his problems. Maybe his talk in the RR helped him see that he needed to change.
Anyway, he's an amazing person: not always packaged perfectly for the public, but a truly compelling person who I only wish the best.

Kuh

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:58 pm Click here to edit this post

And on that, we agree, Lulu.

Katie

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:01 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie has said that his kidneys are shot from the chemo. When he says it, it sound serious. The kidney have to process that alcohol and it is not a good idea for him to be drinking like this. He is endangering his life. To me that is like a diabetic sneaking candy. It is dangerous and a real medical concern.
As far as 'Yes, he has too much beer sometimes, but what 21 year old guy doesn't?' How many 21 year old have had cancer and had a leg removed and have shot kidneys?? He is not like every other 21 year old in this regard. He needs to take care of his health a lot more then the typical 21 year old.

Watchers

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:14 pm Click here to edit this post

I once worked with a kid that had juvenile diabetes and he was in a frat and drank himself into the hospital on any number of occasions. Everyone around him knew he was self-destructive and he did too. He didn't care. Eddie may have some of that in him. He does indeed have an alcohol problem.

Franny1

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:27 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddie also admitted that he had been drinking more inside the house, and I think that is from the boredom. I don't think what we are seeing is his usual behavior. I think Curtis and Eddie are drinking much more than normal too.

Jade888

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:25 pm Click here to edit this post

Well any 21 year old who knows he has kidney damage should know better than to drink alcohol. Is losing a kidney worth drinking alcohol? Is being on dialysis three times a week fun? No!

Everyone seems to make excuses for eveyone now it is the age factor. At 21 we can buy a gun, drink alcohol and of yes vote as well.

At what age do you think he will be more responsioble for his own health?

I know children that have diabetes they know better not to eat candy...so what's the difference?