Archive through August 11, 2000

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Bubbaesq

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:06 am Click here to edit this post

Per Geo to others, K is going into rr to tell them to just let her go...callers or bb

Battlestar

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:06 am Click here to edit this post

Feed 1---Karen thinks that Curtis has hidden some hairspray that he said she could use--did it in spite.

Karen is crying--george says a lot of is to do with the cigarettes.

Jamie says she should go in the RR and be honest that she really does want. Jamie stated that some of her nominations may be because of her missing her kids!!! Also saying that Karen can't spend her time being miserable--the cameras take it all in and will use it.

George says that deep down inside she wants to stay--Karen says that when she sees the kids at the end of the walkway--it will be worth leaving.

Karen says--no she wants to go--GONE INSIDE!!

Curtis asks how she is doing--George says badly--she is planning on going in and say please vote for me--I want to go home!! George warns Curtis to stay away from Karen and not try to comfort her even though Curtis wants to.

Bubbaesq

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:07 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis pointed out that there is no use talking to her, he would like to comfort her but she won't allow it at this point since she is convinced he nomd her

Bigbrotherryan

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:09 am Click here to edit this post

Feed 1-George and Jamie telling Karen to stay and enjoy whatever time she has left in the house

Feed 2-Far View of Karen/Jamie/George thing, Josh has joined them.

Feed 3-Karen now talking to ummm...Jamie, Brit, and Cass somewhere in the house about wanting to leave.

Feed 4-Feed 4, same as feed 3 but different view. They're in the bathroom.

Chrisp

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:13 am Click here to edit this post

Gotta record this...

Karen talking to Jamie, George and Brit at the card table. They were discussing what she would say during her 30 seconds, and she reiterates that she will plead to be voted out. All three are trying (yet again) to convince her to give it at least one more week.

She said that, earlier this week, she had asked Curtis if it was OK if she used his hairspray sometime. He said it was OK, and told her it was in his drawer. Karen went to look in his drawer this morning to get the hairspray, and it wasn't there. She thinks this is some kind of vindictive move on Curtis' part in retaliation for her attitude toward him since the nomination.

Brit volunteered to go see if she could find it, and darted inside. Meanwhile, Jamie and George told her they didn't think Curtis would do something like that; that it was most likely just a coincidence that the hairspray had moved. Karen didn't seem convinced.

After a few minutes, Brit hadn't returned, so Karen went to go find her. Feed 1 briefley follows her inside then switches back to George and Jamie outside. G and J are reiterating that "there's no way" Curtis would do something like that.

George goes to lift weights with the guys, while Jamie also heads inside.

Kilarney

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:13 am Click here to edit this post

Britt, Jamie and George are really trying to get Karen to want to stay. Jamie says that the environment they are in is tough, and that's what the producers want. Karen is still wanting to leave so she can see her kids. She continues to cry.
Karen and Jamie go to the bathroom, where they enter into a group hug with Cassandra and Britt.
Karen is talking about what she will say in her speech... Instead of asking to be voted out, she is going to ask the audience to do what they think is best. She thinks that they audience knows more about her family and her life than she does right now, and they can make the best decision. Karen is still obsessed with seeing her kids. She is looking forward to walking out the door and meeting them.
Karen says that she can handle all sorts of stuff, and then it goes away... but this does not go away. Karen admits that she is an incredible judgmental person. She says that she does not like Curtis. Curtis doesn't want the dog there, but he acts like he does so he will not upset people. Karen does not like how he does this. She thinks that he is sucking up to the camera. Karen says that she does not like George, either.
George enters the bathroom.

Karen: "All I know is that I want to see my kids. I'm sorry to my kids, but the money is just not that important to me."

George leaves.

Britt says that there was a lot of uneasiness in the beginning, but the hard part is over. She again suggests that Karen should stick it out for one more week.

Theresa

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:15 am Click here to edit this post

Karen talking to Cass, Brit and Jamie....She says she can't stand the weirdness....Saying Curtis is all weird about the dog at first and now he plays with it...And I don't like George...I see things in everyone that I don't like and it bothers me! Says she just wants to see her kids and doesn't care bout money.....Brit is telling her she has to be ready for the regrets outside too...That maybe everyone will be saying "Why didn't you stay?"

Battlestar

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:19 am Click here to edit this post

All the women are in the bathroom---Karen hates it cause it is so weird--constant.

Karen finds out that she is not so nice as of a person as she thought--she is judgemental. Lots of anger feelings.

Cass says we all have our faults--Karen says she is more sensitive--could be the cigarettes--but everything is bugging her. She wants to see her kids--money is not important/even if it is to them--she says she couldn't handle more weeks in the house.

Britt says that there was a lot of uneasiness in the house was the beginning---now it's the little things/ comfort level---if Karen can stick it for a couple more weeks then it does get easier. Britt tells her that Karen has to be prepared for the regret she will feel if she leaves prior to Wednesday.

Jamie says it is going to get tougher not easier as time goes on (Karen is out of the room)--Jamie says for the first time she really understands the show and it's appeal to the audience

Janine

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:22 am Click here to edit this post

After the conversation with Jamie, Cassandra, and Brit...the camera went back to the convo b/w Josh and Curtis. Earlier Josh said that there was something about him that people didn't know. By the time I got back to Josh and Curtis....it seems that Josh had already said what it was. Something about neuro something. Did anyone catch this??

Battlestar

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post

Cass says it is unpleasant for her too---but she knew she could be nominated--but she wasn't going to be ugly about the nomination.

Cass says she can't support her the way that Britt and Jamie can because she nominated her and will appear to be self-serving.!!!...

Karen

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:26 am Click here to edit this post

Talking about Karen
Cu: she doing bad?
G: She's gonna torpedo herself. She wants to cruise.. she wants to tell people to vote her out.

F3: Karen, Jamie, Brit, Cass
K talking about the weirdness. I don't like George, I dont like Curtis (gives example of his trying to like the dog). I see lots of things about people I don't like.

Also wondering if its the no smokes effect.. she says she's usually a bee itch when she stops. Doesn't want to stay longer.

B: lots of uneasiness in the beginning.. the hard part is over. The next week or so we're probably going to be completely out as to who we are.
Ja: we all get along.. noms will be tougher now
cass agrees.. we have to do something that is unpleasant
B to K: you're the only one who knows whats in your head and what you need to do... if you're sure you won't regret leaving. What if you get home and your whole family wanted you to stay.
K: I'm just gonna ask for Dr W every day
They tell her to go now... and she does..
Ca: she's got to stop these emotional highs and lows.. its unhealthy. It may be time to leave. If she's feeling that way, she should. She liked Curtis 2 days ago.. now she thinks he's a wuss cuz he's allergic to the dog.
Ja; It's gonna get worse and worse each week. I don't want it to influence her with her decision but it's gonna get WAy worse.
ja: For the first time I understand what the appeal of this show is and what its about. Look whats happening in the last 48 hours.. and its real. Totally heart-wrenching stuff. We're gonna go through all these emotions and America is gonna tune in
Br; I had 3 crying episodes yesterday. God, I'm such a baby.
Ja: She has to make a decision. My mom said if you get picked first.. you miss the ugliness.
Ca; for me this is really unpleasant but I won't let it destroy me.
Ja: if this were my best friend.. I would not want her to flip out on TV
CA; You guys have to talk to her.. If I do, it would seem self-serving
Ja; What she said just now about hating two people.. I worry about her regretting that, too.. and it being shown on TV
Ja; I don't know what is best to say.. she knows herself and has to do what's best for her.
ca: If I'm gone next week.. you have to sit down as a group and decide how your gonna handle the nomination and banishment process. Just decide you're not gonna turn this into people against each other.. not trusting each other, etc
ja: I think you should talk to her Brit.. you're closest to her.. talk to her as a friend.

Ryn

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:31 am Click here to edit this post

Since you are covering B&K - I will watch Jamie & Cass who are also haveing an interesting conversation....

Kilarney

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:34 am Click here to edit this post

Britt is talking to Karen. She said that in the letters Karen got from her kids, they said that they wanted Karen to say. Karen said that she has "read in between the lines", and they actually want her to leave.

Battlestar

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:35 am Click here to edit this post

Karen said that just because Curtis treated her like sh*t--she would never be that way to anyone.

Britt says the house makes everyone act differently then everyone--

Karen says she just had a brainstorm---she is going to plead to her kids to make the decision--go to the Big Brother site and plead the way they want it to go and however they post will be the way the votes to go.

Britt says the letters say Karen's kids want her to stay.

Britt wants her to put the kids aside in her decision--Karen says the one good thing out of the whole experience is Britt-

Janine

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:35 am Click here to edit this post

Brit and Karen are talking. Brit is basically telling her what Cass and Jamie said..that it is gonna get harder not easier. Brit is telling her that she needs to consider whether she will regret staying possibly if she ends up having a breakdown on cam. Then, Karen interrupted and said she had a brainstorm...to tell her kids to log on to the web site and tell people that her mom should stay. (Big mistake!!) Brit is telling her that this is not smart b/c it has to be up to Karen..it's not about her kids. KAren says it is about her kids. Brit is trying to tell her no..that she had to make the decision...that she cannot make it about her kids. NOw I think they are crying. Karen said she only likes Brit in the house really. And I think she said Eddie too.

Boom

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:36 am Click here to edit this post

Ok, I can help out for about an hour. Feed 1.

B: To K: on the couch.
Karen: It is just like this morning I was making coffee for everybody, I was thinking you can treat me like s*** I am just gonna be myself and make coffee for people.

B: I think that this house makes us act in a way that we would never act. If you feel like you are losing it, would you regret more staying on the show and losing it or would you regret quitting.

K: I had a brainstorm, I will ask the crowd to go into the chatroom, to go to the website and tell them what you think, do you want me to stay or want me home.

B: You have to figure out what you want, the show is not about your kids.

K: It is about my kids,

B: You got your letters you know that they want you to stay.

K: No now I have read between then lines, I think they want me home.

K: If they needed me they might not be saying it.

B: For one second set your kids aside and think about you.

K: Am I gonna get anymore out of this, no I will not.

K: The only good thing that has come out of this is you Britt. (She is crying now) I hope everything perfect happens to you.

K: You have made this wonderful, it has been a riot just knowing you. They are huggin now.

B: Whispers something I could not hear.

Karen gets called to the red room she is still crying. Hacks a cough out before she goes in.

boom

Bb2000watcher

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:36 am Click here to edit this post

I think this is Feed 1. Karen had a brainstorm... she said that is wants to plead to her kids to go into the BB200.com chatrooms and tell the people how they feel -- whether they want her to stay or go. Brittany is dispencing good advice to her... think about Karen and what Karen wants. The show is not about your (K's) kids, but it is about you. You need to do what is good for you. She was just called to the RR. I guess it is time for her to make her plea.

Janine

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:36 am Click here to edit this post

Karen was just called into the RR..not sure if it is about the plea to the public or something else.

Ryn

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:38 am Click here to edit this post

11:30 BB time - Feed 3

Jamie, Cassandra and Curtis on the outside talking.

Jamie giving Cass encouragement that she needs to let the public know that she wants to stay (as opposed to that she doesn't want to be banished).

The tennis ball thing is brought up - they all still wonder if it was real or not.

Jamie wonders if she is still "Miss Washington" and says BB has not mentioned it at all and they all agree that BB won't tell her either way.

Now they are making fun of the Dog. The name Chiquita (they wonder if they call it Chiquita Banana if BB will bleep it because its not a sponser.

Curtis talks about playing some game last night & his relationship with Karen. Says things are "ok" - "civil" that they are better today. That she doesn't "hate" him now.

Jamie says eddie thinks she voted for him and is holding it against her.

Cassandra thinks they need to all talk about the voting and the revealing of the voting after the next banishment - she talks about it as if she might not be there.

Curtis says he thinks everyone has a better understanding of it and the need "not" to talk about it.

They go inside, I think they are preparing for the pie eating contest.

Jamie keeps calling the dog Chaquita Banana (my apologies if I am mis-spelling that).

F3 switches to Britt in bedroom with..... Eddie and Josh and Goerge.

Timbit

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:40 am Click here to edit this post

Karen wants to see the doctor in the RR about her plea to leave... wants the public to know she wants out... the rest of the girls sitting around in bathroom, K leaves and the other girls talking about her ups and downs... Cass thinks its unhealthy... don't think it's going to get any better.. last 48 hours have been hell...

Ja talking about her thoughts re: why BB is so popular, people watching all the "drama" heartwrenching difficult emotional crap that they have to go through for noms and then having to live for another week with noms over their head, others agreeing

Brit talking about her crying breakdowns over the last wto days

Karen walking around the couches, others are there, not sure yet... will change feeds soon, Ja still talking in bathroom

Karen coughs, very depressed looking, still in livingroom... Cass in bathroom, doing very well (Ed. everybody forgets that she's nom'd too) saying that she's not going to let it get to her... there's nothing she can do about being nom'd...

they've decided taht Karen won't just walk out the door... "she's not a quitter"...

Cass says that they need to sit down next week and discuss how they'll deal with the nom and banishment process (she even said, "and if I go, you need to sit down with the rest and figure out how to deal with this, you can't go through this over and over again")

Brit mentions K's timing re: quitting smoking and how it's probably not helping either

Brit says "well, I may not be her friend in about five minutes"... she's off to do something, but I'm not sure what

Cass and Jamie debriefing together in the bathroom ... idle chatter changes to the pie eating contest

cameras change to couches... people milling around... Brit sits down next to Karen... cameras follow jamie and cass going to kitchen & outside

cam 1 in living room, cam 2 on kitchen (nobody there), cam 3 outside (jamie & cass talking... jamie thinks the public should know that

Britt telling Karen that millions are watching and that she thinks that the public are seeing Karen acting vengeful and that the media can be cruel and to think about her future... what people see can haunt her (an example she gives is future employers,etc) when she leaves... B tells K about how the house makes them act in ways that they would never act..

B: if you feel like you are losing you or losing it, it's something that you should think about.. would you regret leaving more or.. (Karen cuts her off)
K: I know what I should do, I should plead to my kids that if you want me to stay, go to the website and log in and tell people what you want... if you want me to be home, I'll be home, if you want me to stay, tell people
B: you have to figure out what you want for you, this is not about your kids"
K: it is about my kids, this whole thing is about my kids
B: you got your letters, you saw everything was ok
K: i read between the lines and I saw more stuff
B: your kids encouraged you to go on this show they knew you'd be gone for 3 months
K: they're kids, maybe they didn't realize how long 3 months is
B: if they needed, you the producers would contact you... just for one second, set your kids aside, think about you
K: am i going to get anything more out of this? absolutely not... the only good thing that's come out of this is you... I like Jamie and I like Eddie, but I won't get anything more out of this.. I wish the world for you and I want you to have everything

Brit crying
*sobfest*
Brit: do you think if you asked them to talk to your kids that they'd let you
K: no they won't let me
Karen summoned to the RR

fallout with the rest of the gang on other cams... Eddie says to stop worring about K... she'll be ok... conversation changes to something lighter... laugher... I'm outta here for a little bit

Boom

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:45 am Click here to edit this post

Ed: Note( I am not sure that Karen's brainstorm was about her kids going onto the chatrooms, but about the general public going on)

Feed 3. Eddie, George, Britt Jamie, Josh,Curtis,in men's room

E: Whatever she decides she will be allright(To B about K)

Josh: I am hungry y'all I am hungry

Ge: that is good you have to eat a bunch of pies.

Laughing about vomiting on TV. They are all talking at once, and laughing, (A much different scene than when Karen is there)

Even Britt is laughing though she just left a crying Karen.

Curtis to Britt, I thought you were a natural pink head but now your roots are showing, there is only one wat to find out for sure though. (Curtis makes a sex joke!)

Josh gets called into the redroom. Karen must be finished.

They are whispering now.
Geor: Blueberry stains are tough to get rid of.

boom

Ryn

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:47 am Click here to edit this post

F3 A crowd in one of the bedrooms now...

Curtis has joined the people I already listed before.

They are now talking about the Pie eating contest and making jokes

Curtis (I think) in a silly voice "I have nothing to do today but eat pie and vomit!!"

Now they are joking that international callers will call in to vote Josh out because of his terrible fake accent.

They are commenting on Britts brown roots showing through.

Josh has been paged to the red room (ed - He seems in much better spirits than when I last saw him yesterday)

George says after josh has left "thats a good-humored guy"

<silence......... someone is clipping something - no eddie is tossing a coin or somethign and catching it>

Low voiced comments to britt by george and curtis - I think about her talkign to karen ("youre doing good britt" etc)

They talk about playing darts, like it would be a good game to have inside. (ed: how about a challenge BB??)

Britt comments that karen was done fast and that she went to talk to "dr _____" (NOT drew)

Josh is already back. They ask him what he did "I did the french laugh at the end 'hahahah'"

Josh said that he said "its worse out in the real world than in here." "I'm having a good time"

Janine

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:47 am Click here to edit this post

Josh is back from the Red Room and now Karen is there again. Note: KAren's brainstorm WAS about her kids going online. She specifically said she was going to tell them to sign on to bigbrother2000.com and to tell the public whether or not they wanted their mom to stay.

Willow

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:49 am Click here to edit this post

Just a correction on an update above: Cass did *not* say that she couldn't talk to Karen because she had nominated her, but because she herself (Cass) was nominated, and so it was potentially self-serving.

Kilarney

Friday, August 11, 2000 - 11:52 am Click here to edit this post

The atmosphere in the house has changed tremendously since Karen went into the red room. Everyone is laughing and telling jokes.
Karen just came out of the Redroom, and is crying her heart out. Once again the atmosphere is morose.