Please no bashing, just speaking my thoughts.
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Deni_San | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:24 am  I was never jealous of Jamie. Being a beauty queen has never impressed me. I was more impressed that she worked her way through school and got a scholarship to Yale and Columbia. Beauty is so subjective and outward beauty can be fleeting. The stuff that makes for inner beauty is far more important. To me, Cassandra was far more beautiful than any of the women in the house. I like seeing women being awarded for something more substantial than how they look. I prefer women being awarded for talent, intellect, and other achievements that are less fleeting. Out of the block Jamie had to prove to me that she was more than a beauty queen, and I think she could have if she wasn't so fresh out of beauty competition. She is not as bad as everyone makes her out to be and certainly doesn't deserve all the hatred and spitefulness of the fans. Her mistake is that she has ambition, but nothing to back up her ambition, and therefore she became a target for BB. Jamie is naive and I think she has been given poor advice by friends who are trying to break into acting in Hollywood. If she wants to become a Meryl Streep caliber actress, she will need training, stage work, and voice coaching, especially since she doesn't seem to have any raw acting talent or expressiveness. This is what Meryl has done to get where she is, including going to Yale Drama. I have for the most part had constructive criticism of her. As someone, who has had the acting bug since grammar school to about Jamie's age, I know what its like to have a passion for acting and theatre. I loved being able to bringing a character to life before an audience, nothing replaces that high. When I was 22, I was part of an acting troupe that put on plays for artist salons and for the general public. Having a complete stranger come to me on the streets of San Francisco to thank me for a performance in Crimes of the Heart, was one of the best moments in my life. I wouldn't trade those memories for being Jamie ever. Passion for acting is trudging across town after a 13 hour workday for late night rehearsals, putting the ticket sales back into the troupe, going to acting school, and doing scenes from plays just because you love it. I was disappointed in Jamie when she said she had a passion for acting, but had not really done anything but a walk on in Bay Watch. I think it is more accurate that she has a passion to be famous. She wants to be a starlet, not an actress. I was never bothered by her 24/7 makeup, because that maybe part of her role as Miss Washington, to never be in public without make up. After analyzing her stay in the house, I am not convinced she has been 2-faced, or intentionally mean to people. Jamie is a good person with good intentions, trapped in the persona of a beauty queen. |
Snowgirl | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:47 pm  Feedmealine: "But I'll take a 'real', homely, humorous person anyday over a stiff, insecure meely mouth, self absorbed one!" Well, I'd take a kind-hearted and compassionate person over an unkind and judgemental one - which is why, for all her faults, I think Jamie's a lot better than many of the people who post here. I guess we all have different priorities. |
Leef57 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:52 pm  (deleted) |
Gottaluvit | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:09 pm  savejamie & snowgirl i agree |
Watchers | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:12 pm  Battlestar - I think you are right that the people who wish her ill and can't wait to see her fall flat on her face are either jealous or evil people. But that is the way of culture - successful, famous people are always being shot down. Personally, I don't like the Jamie she has let us see - she is superficial, self-absorbed, overly concerned with image, very unhelpful in the house. I don't wish her ill however and I can easily see her having a local gig with some limited exposure. I wish her luck, wish them all luck. She may outgrow her obsession with fame although unlikely. So be it - takes all kinds. I was so thrilled for George's daughter that I cried when he got the SVC offer. |
Watchers | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:22 pm  Deni San - You are right, she has shown no passion for acting. She did not participate in high school or college drama. I think she is still just formulating her goals and the work and poverty involved in acting just won't do for Jamie. She will land on her feet with something though. Reading the weather on a local news station or something like that. |
Leef57 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:22 pm  Sorry....Must have said something wrong but I don't know what it was. Sorry. |
Rmgreco | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:25 pm  Yeah Battlestar- i liked Jamie before she picked the director and not her mom. In my books that is wrong. Family should always come first. Maybe her family is different but I can't help the way I feel. It was all downhill from there. Not jealous at all and the men in my life dislike her as much as I do. |
Battlestar | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 02:29 pm  Watchers--- I wasn't saying that if she was not successful it would be because of the nay sayers on the chat boards-------but that she could blame the chat boards and not her abilities to attract an audience or not if she does not become a working actress. That is the Good Deal |
Rbc | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:42 am  I believe curtis is more self-absorbed than jamie. Jamie is obsessed with 'how she looks & how she comes across on tv'; however, she does have some real moments of compassion and caring for all the other hgs. Curtis once asked jordan if she was 'into multiples'. He also made disparaging remarks in the RR about josh, indicating he thought josh was a homosexual. Jamie told curtis she knew a girl named Helen? Hunt and curtis responded 'Mike Hunt's sister?' Curtis also uses foul language and he is much much older than eddie who will, hopefully, outgrow this habit. The HGs are all human with flaws like the rest of us. I wish the final 3 could be eddie, josh & jamie because, out of the final 4, each of these 3 have SHOWN redeeming qualities to the viewers. I am certain curtis has redeeming qualities as well; however, he has played it 'safe' and not let down his guard to show the viewers what these qualities are. I do not hate any of the hgs but have just given my humble opinion. |
Alpine | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:29 am  We live in a society where people would like to believe that looks should not be a factor to get ahead in life. Studies after studies have proven it otherwise, and many of us know it and resent it. Jamie's fatal mistake is that she is relying heavily on her looks to advance herself, and this immediately stirs up the dormant and innate sense of injustice that many of us harbor. This is truly unfortunate, as she is actually a decent person. |
Deni_San | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:57 am  "Curtis once asked jordan if she was 'into multiples'." This is Jordan we are talking about who basically is very frank and open to talking about sexuality. Jordan even brought up beastiality at one point. If he had asked any other woman, my eyebrows would have been raised, but in talking with Jordan, who he liked, it was appropriate. "He also made disparaging remarks in the RR about josh, indicating he thought josh was a homosexual." Again, I have addressed this in other threads. Curtis' speculation in the RR stemmed from this supposed "secret" Josh had announced early on in the game. It fueled speculation among fans what this secret could be. For a long period of time there was speculation among fans and I think the producers that Josh and Curtis may be gay or bisexual. Josh has been referred widely as "wishy washy". George, Karen, and Brittany have all done more to cast Josh in a unfair negative light. BB producers have contributed by highlighting "the nipple session" and asking who is the best guy-guy dancing couple. Curtis had recanted his speculation that Josh was gay after seeing him interact with women and said that he was so offbase, and Brittany has also confirmed this recantation. "Jamie told curtis she knew a girl named Helen? Hunt and curtis responded 'Mike Hunt's sister?'" Since, I didn't see this so I am not sure how this is relevant. "Curtis also uses foul language and he is much much older than eddie who will, hopefully, outgrow this habit." First of all, I have never criticized Eddie for his cursing. When I was in highschool, people used to kid me because I never cursed. For most of my life, I never cursed. When I became close to a friend of mine who is a Yale graduate of Linguistics and grew up in Jackson Heights in Queens, my cursing went up because she curses like a sailor. Curtis seems to pick up mannerisms and speech of who he is around. I can relate to that because I often pick up accents and speech mannerisms of who I am around without even realizing it. I think it is a way to gain acceptance. If he resisted picking up these habits, people would accuse Curtis for being uptight. The worst thing about cursing is that it is a lazy way to communicate, yet I don't factor cursing in on who I want to win. |
Chris | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:32 am  Rbc: > He also made disparaging remarks in the RR > about josh, indicating he thought josh was > a homosexual. He said nothing disparaging. Your comment, however, indicating that it you think it is a bad thing to be suspected as gay, reveals your own bigotry against gays. |
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