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Moi | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 09:27 am  Jordan: 'Brother' Was A Bad Air Day By RICHARD HUFF Daily News Staff Writer ecently booted "Big Brother" housemate Jean Jordan says that what people saw of her on the small screen is not real, and she blames the show's editors for misrepresenting her. "I feel like I was portrayed as kind of a bad girl in the house, the person people love to hate," Jordan told The News. "People saw me as a manipulative, crafty, sneaky, immoral person." The former stripper said that while in the "Big Brother" house, she gave producers tons of material to work with, though they latched onto the juicy stuff and created her character — a character that isn't really her. Jean Jordan's friends and family were 'mortified' by what they saw. A CBS spokesman declined to comment on Jordan's charges. "She was a fantastic contestant and she will be missed from the house," the spokesman said. Jordan hasn't watched any of the shows that aired before she was kicked out, though the clip she saw from the night she was evicted was enough. Her family and friends "have just been mortified" by what they saw on the small screen, she said. "Big Brother" revolves around 10 people who live in a house where every move is captured by cameras and microphones. CBS is airing the show six nights a week, and it has been billed as "reality" fare, though according to Jordan it's anything but. "It's not reality," she said. "Everything that happens in the house is reality. How they edit it distorts that reality." Indeed, Jordan suspects housemates Karen and Brittany, both very vocal in the house, also will be upset when they emerge, while Jamie, Josh and Curtis won't have trouble. "I feel like I've really been slaughtered," she said, but adds, "I don't want to come across that I was a victim. I was very real. I took a lot of risks and I made some not-so-wise decisions." But it's clear, she said, that through the editing, producers can control how the audience reacts to the contestants. Every other week, the inhabitants nominate two people to be banished. For the following week, viewers vote on who gets evicted. The last person in the house wins $500,000. "I think the editors have the ultimate say on who stays and who leaves," she said. "I don't think they put a lot of thought into what was going to happen, the repercussions of showing things and editing them together." In the end, she said, it will benefit the show if the winner is an "all-American father figure" like participant George. "I don't think it's a very good image [for CBS] to have an ex-exotic dancer win 'Big Brother,' " she said. As for her future, Jordan's going to use the next couple of months to finish a book on the sex industry. "As far as 'Big Brother' goes, it's exploitative because of the editing," she said. "There's no way it could actually be real. It all comes down to entertainment and economics." Original Publication Date: 8/7/00 |
Moi | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 09:29 am  Jordan will appear on the Late Show with David Letterman tonight, if you haven't heard. |
Ginger | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 09:46 am  Moi--thanks so much for posting that article. Not to be picking on Jordan, but here are some BIG questions I have, which I am irritated that the reporter above did not ask: 1. If, as Jordan says, she has not watched any of the shows aside from the clip aired after she was kicked out, how can she be so sure that she was mis-edited? How does she know that Brit and Karen will also be unhappy with the editing when she herself hasn't even seen them? 2. The big one is this--why doesn't Jordan understand that editing has little to do with it because we all saw her on the live feeds? I watched both the shows and the live feeds and my impression of Jordan was exactly the same. It wasn't like I was seeing Jordan be this multi-faceted great woman all day and then on the show she became the evil wench. I don't envy Jordan's position right now and I hope she can use the experience positively rather than negatively, but it does get irritating that she is so set on denying reality--not "reality television" but REALITY. |
Ledarney | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 09:51 am  I admitt right off the top that I am a Jordan Fan. But It is hard to to addmit ones mistakes and/or faults at the best of times, I can not imagine how hard it is to stand up and say to the world I was Wrong and I regret things I said. I suspect that after the spot light fades bit then Jordan will be able to look back and learn some thing. This will probaly be the same for all the house Guests. |
Fruitbat | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:00 am  I ABSOLUTELY agree with you Ginger. I think it is too scary for her to look at this fact yet.....or ever. Certainly her friends and family saw some of the feeds. |
Wenko | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:10 am  Ginger, your last paragraph says it all. However, as nice as it would be for her to try to learn from her stay, she won't. Jordan is one of those great people who are convinced that the world owes her a living and that any problem she has is caused by someone other than herself. Remember her first week of running around saying "vacuous" constantly? It was probably a case of "freudian hiccups" on what the other hgs were about to face. |
Deni_San | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:29 am  You have to give her credit for admitting that she took risks and did not make good decisions in the house. She probably found out how CBS portrayed her from her family and boyfriend. Towards the end of her stay I think she was painfully aware how the BB room was manipulating things. She was probably egged on pretty hard to be the bad girl when she was in the RR. I have never been particularly fond of Jordan, and think she was not wise in handling her first nomination, because she let Mega egg her on too much. I also think that she should have waited to tell people she was a stripper, like Jaime waited to tell people she was Miss Washington. I have no problem with her playing with Brittany and Josh because that would have eventually happened with or without Jordan being around -- she just exposed it sooner and it made for interesting TV. While Jordan was a pain in the neck, I don't think she is as bad as Karen and Brittany. I am glad that Jordan got out when she did. I am hoping that she matures more and focuses on more positive pursuits that keep her from being self-centered. |
Battlestar | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 12:09 pm  Check out this picture of Jordan from 1995--she is listed as Jean Jordan-Sweet <url>http://www.vb.bnl.gov/images/champs95.gif</url> |
Battlestar | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 12:22 pm  I take that back---it resembles her but I don't believe it is her---this woman who shares a name with our beloved Jordan has a PHD is physics and works at a Laboratory. N |
Grinder | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 01:21 pm  Wow, if that's not her, it's uncanny! Look at the Jaw line, the nose line, and the mouth. Very similar and they have the same name! (with the -sweet exception)Bizarro world! |
Ginger | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 06:10 pm  I forgot to mention (in my post above) that another fact that contradicts Jordan's claims is this: She says that her friends and family "have just been mortified" at what they saw on the "small screen." Why then, when Julie Chen interviewed both her sister and her boyfriend on national television, did they not give any hint of this? I understand that they couldn't launch into a major attack, but not only did they fail to express any discomfort at the way CBS was "presenting" her, they made several statements saying that what they were seeing was the Jordan they knew and loved. Her sister said, "Jordan's not the easiest person to live with." They both said that Jordan was "strong" and "intense." Indeed, over and over they affirmed that the "character" Jordan claims CBS made her into was the real one. |
Alfredo | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:06 pm  In my case, it was the internet feeds, not the TV editing, that motivated me to call to vote her out. Jordan was making excuses before she even got voted out. In a conversation with Curtis, after Curtis said he thought people would vote out the "boring lawyer guy" in order to keep the "hot stripper" around, she said that *she* *might* get voted out -- if she were edited in a bad light. Interestingly, in a much earlier feed, she said that if she got voted out it would be due to her personality. Just caught her on Letterman. I thought she looked good -- not great, but that's probably colored by my negative impression of her personality. She did her now standard "the editing did me in" spiel, accompanied with the others being "chore happy". In keeping with her self-absorption (hey, at least she's consistent), when Dave asked about the audition process, her answer was a listing of all her good qualities that impressed them (How do I express the rolling of eyeballs without actually typing, "I rolled my eyeballs"?). Overall, though, it was better than I expected, with some funny bits, and for the ease of mind of her fans -- yes, Dave was gentle with her. |
Ryn | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 10:47 pm  Am I mistaken - or didn't Jordan make the naked trampoline jokes?? And tonight she puts it back on CBS to say THEY brought up her dancing and getting nekked. Interesting of her to have selective memory And one other thought, unlike the Bryant G interview, Letterman is pretty much scripted so she knew what was coming. |
Chrisp | Monday, August 07, 2000 - 11:00 pm  Ryn, the difference was that, when she suggested naked trampoline, she was KIDDING!! When the RR suggested she do a strip tease before being banished, they were serious! I thought she was great with Letterman! |
Moi | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 05:06 am  A transcript of Jordan's appearance on Letterman can be found at Joker's site. http://disc.server.com/discussion.cgi?id=121772&article=3449 This may be the last time we'll ever hear from Jordan. Good riddance to her. |
Mysteri | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 06:13 pm  I don't think Jordan was truly kidding about the naked tramoline. I think that she would have done it if she was given a guarantee that it would keep her in....she sure did talk about it often enough. It wasn't just one joke...she talked about it almost daily |
Jellak | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 07:33 pm  Hmmm... I dont think Jordan was serious about the naked trampolining either. She always laughed and joked about it with other HG, but never mentioned she would seriously do it. Also I dont think that: Naked Trampolining = Stripping in front of the others. Naked trampoling into the pool would be a gag something to laugh at whereas stripping would be percieved in a more derogatory way. Lots of people go skinny dipping for fun, but dont strip in front of others. IMHO. |
Poohbear | Tuesday, August 08, 2000 - 07:39 pm  I am really saddened by the fact that , so far, the two that have been banished have blamed everyone else for their banishment! I agree that what they portrayed on tv was very much like what I saw on the live feeds. And as for CBS editing her in a certain way , why does she not talk about the fact that it was the houseguests , the people she LIVED with, that nominated her in the first place. That had nothing to do with editing! I also hope that jordan can someday see this and realize that is was more 'her' than CBS's editing that got her banished......She went into BB knowing what the possibilities were and therefore i think she should not complain....but perhaps focus on something more positive. I agree that it is difficult to be 'regected', but she knew before that this was almost inevidable. I also think that she is taking this 'stripper' thing way out of hand, at least from my perspective. I honestly couldnt care less that she was a stripper. that would never make me banish someone more than the others.... |
Jake | Wednesday, August 09, 2000 - 12:32 am  I agree with you, POOHBEAR. And I believe Jordan is exercising denial even when she thinks about the houseguests. Her reasoning there is that they were afraid of her and, to interpret different things she said, they were not worthy nor smart enough to see the real... valuable... her! Again, she lays blame on their inadequacies rather than her own. She says the houseguests didn't like her because she was controversial??? Get real, Jordan... they didn't like your lying and scheming for the fun of it! Hurting people in the process of trying to elevate yourself. And I agree with you on the stripper angle. I think most folks could care less about that aspect of her life.. It was her personality and behavoir that got her axed. TOTALLY! *laughs* I think she had already set it up in her mind that if she were to be voted out, it would HAVE to be because mainstream America couldn't deal with her ex- (current?) stripper status. That way, when things went awry, she had a very convenient excuse all set up. If she had been brave, she never would have told anyone about her ex-stripper status. When she did, it made it very neat all around: Everyone knows and everyone hates me for it and that's why they don't like me! Wahhhh... here's a tissue Jordan... blow your nose. |
Knute | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 12:51 pm  Jordan's downfall began after her first nomination. Not only her fixation on finding out who voted for her, but her time spent plotting with Will, made for a complete separation between her and the houseguests. If you saw the Internet feed of the notorious "tribal council meeting" (when she admitted her past) you would not only have seen the absolute worst side of Jordan, but the growing reaction of all the HG's as they cemented their dislike for her the longer she went on and on with her diatribe. It was after Will's ouster that Jordan laid out, in the Redroom, her plan to drive a wedge between Britt and Josh. This is so like the villain's prologue in a Shakespeare play that *she* painted herself the antagonist, editing be damned. And as we all know, the bad guy loses and the good guy wins ... especially on a TV show. She came on BB as an earthy, pretty girl next door (with a past), but left as a manipulating, whining, borderline unstable woman in full denial. Bottom line, for Jordan not to understand the real reason why she's out ... I dunno, speaks volumes about how selfish and manipulative people can be so clueless as to how transparent their behavior really is to others. |
Chris | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 01:16 pm  Interesting, that is exactly the problem with Karen as well. No wonder they both hated each other so much - they think they are opposites, but are really the same. |
Alfredo | Thursday, August 10, 2000 - 04:18 pm  Jordan was initially my favorite, even after her "unveiling", which was the first episode I saw -- I missed her post-nomination tirade. Not coincidentally, I also initially considered her the best looking HG. However, the more of her actions I saw and words I heard, the less attractive she seemed. Still, nice bod. I guess you have to give her some credit for being a stripper for two years without getting a couple of THOSE THINGS installed. |
Ledarney | Tuesday, August 15, 2000 - 12:28 pm  I just recieved this e-mail from the Star Tribune. The daily paper in Minneapolis. mike-- we'll be running an interview with jordan in the Thursday star tribune. while i cannot relay any messages, she will be fielding questions from readers at our web site (startribune.com). details are with the story, which will run in the variety section. Tim Campbell Entertainment Editor Star Tribune 425 Portland Av. S. Minneapolis, MN 55488 612-673-4865 fax 612-673-7872 |
Jake | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 03:49 pm  Ledarney, I know you're a fan of Jordan's, and I know you don't appreciate some of the things that have been said about her out here. I respect that, and say "good for you", but I don't agree with you, and it's okay to agree to disagree! *smiles* I went to the Star Tribune site today to check out the "Ask Jordan" section and decided to write her myself. The following is my post and her follow-up answer. I thought I would share it with you folks. I watched you 24/7 - unedited I, too, have watched Big Brother from the beginning - online and on TV. I am one of those who DO know what has gone on in the house, unedited and I have a couple questions for you: 1) Why, if you were so worried about people identifying you only with your exotic dancer role, did you keep referring to yourself that way? (thereby reinforcing the connection of you to that role) Why did you not emphasize OTHER things you have done in your life such as the triathalon, your travels, etc.? Why did you even tell the houseguests of that part of you? I believe you were more buried in the consequences of that part of your life than the houseguests or anyone outside the house was. 2) You had many opportunities to turn conversations around to more meaningful topics (such as ones you mentioned in the Star Tribune article) yet you did not. Why? It's not as if you didn't have anyone who could have conversations like that; I point to Cassandra, Curtis and Jaime as possible conversationalists. 3) What is your response to people such as I who DID see you 24/7 UNedited and felt you were responsible for your own negative portrayal? I saw a young woman who had opportunities to get her messages across, who had the intelligence to pull it off, but opted of her own accord to remain self-absorbed and unable to accept any view that was not her own. The Jordan I saw was the Jordan who WAS, and that Jordan blew her own opportunities. I believe you truly are interested in growth and self-awareness, and I applaud you for that. But consider that not all of us saw only what CBS wanted us to see. Good luck in your endeavours, Jordan. May you use your knowledge well. ANSWER FROM JORDAN: The "stripper" terminology was so ludicrous it became a joke. I used it because it was so NOT who I was, and I believe the other people in the house knew that at least, it was a joke - esp. between Curtis and I. Great questions by the way. As far as the conversations, I sank copious amounts of energy into having them the first week or so. Yes, certain people did engage initially, only to let the conversation fall flat after awhile. People in the house just didn't have the same curiosity as I do - that isn't inherently bad but it was bad for me. I gave up after awhile because I knew what I could expect - that was a polite exchange and a conversation for a few minutes and then silence. People would answer my questions, but they wouldn't ask many. Also, after awhile people began to get irritated with how inquisitive I was. They started to criticize me for being "too deep". This also shut me down. I appreciate your comments. I must point out, however, that there is NO WAY you watched 24/7 literally, for one because you have to sleep and another because you have a life (I hope)so there are plenty of things you missed. |
Jake | Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:00 pm  I've gone back to the site since writing this, and have seen some of y'all asking her questions too. Apparently, even after telling her I watched her 24/7, she was not going to believe I saw enough to form any "real" opinion. Ah... being on BB time, being a late-nighter, and being able to keep the online feeds up pretty constantly during the day... I can say I DID see enough, and I won't be going back to the site to argue that point. Let her live where she lives... |
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