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Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:24 pm  UGH..PLEASE STOP WITH THE SIDE COMMENTS!!! Distracting to make editorial comments!! Josh still playing with dog..says he is a lil tired after the stress of the day. Eddie talking about the Karen situation. Sounds like he is in the Red Room! RR asks him about the lving space? Eddie - more space the better. The house does seem to have more space added to it but not much. Not big difference b/w 7 and 10 people. When it gets to 5 it will start to get tight. If I'm still here then , then it will hit me..space is pretty big. RR - Do you think other people will have hard time with less people? Eddie - Brittany w/o a doubt. If she doesn't have a selection of people to direct her attention towards...Brit will have less people to go to. She might start to get more irritating. Cass will get irritated with Brit quickly. RR - If you were in last 3 who would u have more difficulty with being? Eddie - I don't know. I can't honestly answer that question. I won't be irritated by one person more than another. Brit doesn't irritate me..she's entertaining. Brit might bother Curtis..definitely bothers Cassandra. No one here really bothers me. Back in the day Jordan did. RR - who do you irritate? Eddie - I don't know but obviously somebody b/c i have a vote to my name. Maybe Curtis b/c he's older i'm younger. He's shirt and tie..i'm grease monkey punka** kid. I can see me annoying Curtis RR - Many people have said they are forced to pick. Do you think they are being sincere or are they gunning to get people out? Ed - nah.. there's always a reason why you give one name and not another. I don't think gangvoting is an issue. Last nomination i said i had no reasons but there were reasons..whether i choose to express it is my call. That's bull when they say i just had to come up with a name. Unless it comes down to 4. Not this early in the game. Someone looks at u funny and that's a reason to some. RR - Is it a game to some in the house or is it still just living together Edd - for the house it's not a game. They are just trying to survive..-let's be happy go lucky..let's learn from each other. For me it's a lil of both... |
Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:26 pm  Eddie - i think people are gonna try to get along as best as they can..granted tomorrow is halfway. Whether or not they can do it i don't know. Once banishments are every week..people are gonna clam up and try not to pi** anyone off.. Audio from RR cut off..chicken cam..now i hear George..oops... |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:26 pm  Eddie's audio can be heard on F3. He's talking to man in RR. eddie: he may vote for curtis, they're just diff. curtis is older, shirt-and-tie, he is younger, monkey-punk(???) man: someppl say they have hard times with noms. do you think other ppl are gunning to take others from the house? eddie: there's always a reason why ppl give u a name. sometimes everyone gangs up on someone. i don't think that's an issue. i have reasons, but i don't express it, i'll just come in give names and have no reasons. ppl saying i just had to come up with names, that's BS, unless it cmae down to maybe 4 ppl. but not this early in the game. there's somebody who looks at u funny and that's it - get em. man: is it a game or more let's stick together experience this. ed: for me or the house? man: either ed: for the house it's let's just survive, beat BB, let's learn about each other. for me it's a bit of both. for me i enjoy being here, the ppl, their experiences, i appreciate them sharing, and yet it's a game. it's apopularity contest. there's no brains, no offense to the challenges but they're not that hard. to the household and the HGs it's not a game. but when it starts coming down to the wire, 5 ppl, you start thinking more let's see, it's gonna become eye for an eye. man: do you think there will be more of those games, or more let's just get along no matter what the tension is. ed: i think ppl are gonna try to get along best they can. now that we're halfway. whether or not we can do it i don't know. once nominations & banishments are every week, ppl are gonna just clam and try not to p*ss anybody - darn camera switched, ed's audio is gone. |
Max | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:28 pm  Came in and discovered the audio playing of Eddie in the redrum. Missed the first part! Here's the last before they cut the audio, best as I could get it. BB: Does anyone in the house particularly irritate you? E: No one here has an knack, skill, or talent to get under my skin. Will or Jordan, sure, but not these guys. BB - Who do you irritate? E: I don't know, somebody. Maybe Curtis 'cause we're just different. He's older, I'm younger. He's Wall Street, I'm a grease monkey. Maybe I can see me annoying Curtis. BB: Do you think people are being sincere when thye say they don't know why they're nominating someone? E: No, there's always a reason, whether they give a specific one or not. No "gang voting" going on. Like me, I make my noms for a reason. This past one I said I just came up with 2 names, but there's a reason whether or not I choose to express it. BB: At this point, is it a game for everyone or is just just let's live together? E: For me or the house? BB: Either. E: For the house it's not a game, it's let's survive, let's show BB and beat them at their own game. For me, it's a little of both. For me, I enjoy being here, enjoy the people, their expoeriences, the fact they share with me and yet it's a game, a popularity contest. no brains involved, no offense to the challenges, but they aren't that hard. To the household and the housemates, it's not a game. But when it starts coming down to 5 people, you'll see people stoppin' and stepping back and little and it'll be eye for an eye. BB: As it goes along, do you think there will be more games between each other then or just let's get along no matter what? E: I think people will try to get along the best they can. AFter tomorrow, it's half way. Whether or not they can do it, I don't know. I see people looking at each other and sneering. Once noms and banishments are every week, people are just going to reserve themselves. Audio cut off. |
Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:32 pm  Ok..Josh in room unpacking it looks like. Jamie and Brit in garden talking. Jamie - I'm at peace with what I did but i'm not at piece with... Curtis is there. Brit - I hope they don't go through our briefcases and take away the phone numbers and addresses. Curtis - I'm gonna put them on my person not in my briefcase. plane overhead Jamie - I just pray that the public....That's all i can do Brit - i thought it was weird what she said..i dont know...when josh said take care of her but not too good care of her..it was kinda funny I could hear the audience laughing almost. plane overhead..hard to hear If things were bad they wouldn't have let her talk to us says Curtis. Jamie - I couldn't believe how many people were out there. Brit - I didn't see people. I was just trying to see her kids. Jamie - I saw signs. Teh parking lot was full of people. Curtis - wondering why CBS didn't want them outside Jamie - George was the funniest..he stayed out the longest yelling about his blue hair |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:33 pm  (Nice work getting that Janine - I misheard what he said about Brit, I was on F7 and distracted by other talking. -ed) F3&4 Brit, Jamie, Curt talking by pool about Karen. Curt saying he thinks by the end K would have been okay with it if he had actually voted for her. She really wanted to go. (Josh unpacking on other feeds.) They're talking again about the ppl in the parking lot. They really liked the big crowd, signs, ppl yelling. Curtis not sure why they didn't want HGs going outside - whether for security or so they couldn't see the crowd. C thinks he heard someone yelling "Curtis", J thinks she heard some "Jamie". Thought it was cool that ppl were yelling their names. C: "Just for a minute I could taste how big this thing might be, but now I think we better get back to normal." Brit speculating about her father being out there, didn't hear anyone yelling anyone's name. |
Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:34 pm  Brit Jamie and Curtis continuing to talk. Discussing that night they all wanted to walk out. Brit doesn't want to know who nominated her. From now on, she says she's not gonna tell anyone who she voted for. Curtis says it does no good to talk about it. Ok..i'm gonna switch cams. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:41 pm  F7 Jamie thinks the challenge is too hard. Brit says she would have been okay with the challenge, if anyone else wanted to do it (now talking about the special live challenge, with the RR tapes). Curtis saying why would you want to damage so many relationships esp. when they didn't know the prize. Brit didn't want to see her family (they're assuming the prize was tapes of family). Curtis and Jamie would rather have seen a BB episode, or even just the bumpers or commercials (like for the real world), just to see what they were saying. long pause. Curtis wonders if it's going to speed up or slow down now that they're halfway (i vote for speed up! -ed). Jamie says with Karen gone, who was like the leader and stuff, they have to do that stuff. Curtis points out they have cooked before but K won't be around to supervise. C says K was everywhere, spades, getting involved in rel'nships, B misses the lectures. another plane overhead. they wonder how Karen knew, Jamie thinks they told her. They did hear the studio audience laughing at some pt. when Karen said something (this might have been K saying sh*t on LIVE NAT'L TV -ed.) Brit wonders if Mega or Jordan was there, Curtis says "not for her" laughs. C thinks it was a big nom, thinks the show is picking up steam. Brit would't be surprised if the next nom was a 4-way. It's all in the public's hands Curtis says. Josh is on F1&2 lying on his bed. Not saying anything. Reading apparently. |
Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:42 pm  Looks like Josh and Eddie in their rooms reading. Curtis Jamie and Brit talking about missing KAren..how she had a presence..with the cooking..chores....spades.. Nothing much going on so I'm taking a break. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:48 pm  F7 Curtis, Brit, Jamie in back. Curtis again - Jamie shouldn't worry about noming Karen. It was the right principled thing to do. J worries about how it plays with the public (she should read these forums -ed). C says she knows it was right, it doesn't matter. J again saying that Karen changed so much after being nom'ing. She prays that everything that happened was shown on TV. Now that Karen's gone C hopes that if she's in a happy place, it won't matter a bit what she thinks of Jamie. The dog starts barking again, just pooped on the lawn. Jamie carries the dog inside. Apparently the new nickname for the dog is "crazy pug" (Curtis). Brit didn't think it was Jamie who voted for Karen - maybe george. She was also sure about Cass and Josh. Curtis again - public vindication or house vindication might be nice, but Jamie knows it was the right thing to do. Jamie again about how emotions are magnified in the house, the RR isn't enough. HGs are also trapped and can't give good advice. Perceptions are skewed, Brit says. Jamie's going to miss her. Curtis says she was a huge presence. The dog is still outside. George coming outside bawking at the chickens. Going to feed them the rotten cabbage. |
Ryn | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 09:57 pm  Pointless post will be deleted - PLEASE no questions in this thread - there are folks int he General discussion that can help you - or in a live chat room - this thread is STRITCLY for posting of the goings on in the house |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:01 pm  (I'm good for another 1/2 hr here, then going to sleep -ed.) F7 Brit talks about allowing the nom'd ppl to have a day or two to just let it hit them. Curtis says Cass took about 5-10 mins to adjust, Josh 24 hrs., Karen took 2 1/2 days. Maybe four days but who's counting (laughs) Brit says she's probably just going to cry after the noms, just let me cry. George checks the hens, who have laid 7 eggs, guess the dog isn't bothering the hens. Pugdog continues to bark. Brit says again she'll probably cry for a day in her room, dont tell her not to cry or anything. Now Jamie and Curtis wondering when the shows air around the country. Live on the East Coast, should be playing soon on West Coast. Jamie points out that those are probably the big markets (ever concerned about TV exposure -ed). F1&2 show Josh and Eddie in boys' room, Josh fell asleep reading, Ed still awake. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:10 pm  Curtis thinks it was great for Karen, the public screaming, her kids. It may have been negative to get such a high percentage, but that she would have been happy anyway. Repetitive - Cass now talking to Brit on Feed 1 F1 Cass in LR with Brit and Eddie (out from RR I guess). Whoa - brief shot of inside of RR - no one inside. Ed talking about Josh is West Coast, he's East Coast. Cass looks tired (but great -ed) George enters LR, lies on couch. Josh is asleep. He wanted to lift before, Ed debates waking him up to lift. Brit and Cass both think he's wiped out. Brit says he was as sure he was going to leave as Karen. Cass says it was strange to pack up like you're going, then unpack b/c you're staying. Very unique experience. (no - ask Curtis and Josh -ed). Brit's stomach gurgles. Cass thought her stomach would make noises during the show. Everyone's tired - not much of a convo. George and Cass think the show is getting bigger, each live show is bigger. Cass thinks the show is gaining momentum. Started off good (after Survivor) but it's probably building. LOTS of yawning. They gave their ph#'s to Karen to call their families. |
Sher | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:19 pm  I think this was missed: Jamie and Curtis were outside a few minutes ago and Jamie was bringing up the voting block, (the ones who vote together) She says she is against that, she could have participated but didn't. Curtis says sooner or later everyone will be nominated. He says even the block will have to turn on itself as the group gets smaller. Then at least if you get nom then you won't have participated in those games and will look better in the public eye. He says they could have joined Karen and made their own block, following the direction Karen was taking, but they didn't. After that they go on about other things. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:27 pm  F1 Ed thinks it will be 3 weeks before Karen can sit down and breathe. More yawning - both Ed and George. Brit looks wiped. Very slow convo - these ppl are waiting for each other to go to bed - time to switch feeds. F4 Curtis and Jamie talking about alliances. Curtis thinks George has an unwavering devotion to Eddie - but he wouldn't necessarily never vote for him. Curtis didn't notice anyone's reactions to Karen revealing that Jamie nom'd her in the LR on the live show. Curtis never heard it from Eddie or Brit but assumed they were on board (what? the alliance?). Curtis thinks everyone knows about the next votes, and will try (what?) but may not execute. He thinks he's capable of staying in a pact and not talking but some ppl need to talk and deal with it. Curtis thinks in the last week, he and Karen never completely recovered from the first 2 days of accusations. He regrets it. Another airplane. Her attitude changed a little by the end but only b/c she was less sure that he had nom'd her, he would hate to think that was the whole basis of their relationship. Curtis says he did tell Jordan whether he had or hadn't nom'd her the first two times (not revealing to Jamie what his votes were). Jordan is probably having more fun than them now anyway. (It's really tough to hear anything Jamie says.) They go inside |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:30 pm  (Thanks Sher - I saw that part and thought I posted it but guess not.) F4 Jamie and Curtis are back outside. jamie asks curtis if he talked to brit and upset her. jamie doesn't know how brit thinks about josh, esp with karen involved. doesn't think brit knows what to do. Karen was kind of the mediator and now she's gone, Jamie doesn't want to step in b/c it's too awkward. (Curtis points out that technically, she's already in it.) Jamie wants brit to do what's best for her. Brit told Curtis that during the confrontation josh wasn't interested in a rel'nship with Brit, that he liked Jamie but wouldn't start anything. Brit said Josh said he definitely wanted to date Jamie afterwards. Jamie repeats she doesn't want to be part of it. Once again Jamie talks about the house magnifies relationships. Curtis says when they asked him, he said he could not possibly imagine having one, maybe if he met someone great. (That's not what I remember from the first show -ed) Jamie talking about how you have so much contact w/people here, you're sharing so much with them, you get to know people really really well. Curtis says he would probably be interested in a person who would also think that it would be crazy to have a relationship on national TV. Jamie agrees, they joke about getting it on right there. Eddie comes outside, he's going to bed. J & C come inside, everyone says their goodnights to Ed. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:38 pm  all feeds currently showing LR F4 Cass and Curtis sitting on couch, Jamie lying down btwn them with blanket. Brit is on another couch. They mention the dog has a lot of energy, Cass says she (Pugita) slept thru half the live show. Jamie thinks Julie interacts with them more during nom week than banishment week. Banishment week is more planned. Curtis thinks they need time for the studio and whatever. Cass wonders how much time they would have taken if they had watched the videos. They speculate again about the surprise. Cass thinks it was probably something stupid, not worth it, that they would have done that to themselves and then found out they had gotten such a stupid surprise. Curtis thinks they're doing okay as it is, what could be so great. Jamie thinks they probably thought it was weird that they refused. Curtis thinks it may have been contact with the outside. George got his phone call and Karen got her letters. But it wouldn't have been good enough. George jokes they may have gotten to watch a movie, after destroying themselves. George wonders why they didn't say what the surprise was. Cass thinks they probably thought it would encourage them, but they were wrong. Curtis thinks they had to have been prepared that they would have gone for it. George thinks no way would they have done it. Curtis thinks they must have known almost all the HGs wouldn't do it. |
Teecee | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:46 pm  F7 George's hair is turning green - Cass says it's lightened a lot in the back to blonde or whatever. George washed it tonight (shampooed) for the first time and alot of blue came out. Cass noticed blue on George's pillow earlier today. George gets up to go to bed. "Love Pug" starts barking and goes to follow George, but the door closes. Now it's Cass and Curtis playing with the dog, Brit wiped out on a couch. Jamie lying down the other couch. Pug is crawling over Brit, licking her face. Brit mutters half-asleep. Cass and Curtis sit with Jamie again. Camera zooms in bigtime on the Pug. The pug sits down on Brit's legs, panting. Cass petting Pugita's head, Brit playing with her tail. Cass leans close so we can hear the pug's panting on her mic. Curtis thinks Karen could handle the "Love Pug". Cass points out that she sat down and held her so she couldn't move. Cass finally does that, gets up, picks up the dog and holds her in her lap. Cass talking to the dog now, "You make me sick.", "You're so crazy", "I don't want that love pug kissing me". Curtis mentioning they don't need to be pug-hair-free now. They're laughing at the dog...I'm going to sleep...hope someone takes over... |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:49 pm  F1 Brit wakes up and can't figure out where George is. Everyone tells her he went to bed. Brit decides to go to bed too because she's "so exhausted". Curtis points out that it was an emotionally exhausting day. Curtis, Cass and Jamie discussing how funny dog is. Earlier, they were moving the cameras again and the dog was barking at them. Now, Curtis points out that they are moving the cams more slowly. All just looking at dog. I'll keep posting, but only if something happens. If they're just looking at the dog, it's pretty boring! |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 10:55 pm  F1 Curtis and Cass discussing the moment when banishment numbers were announced. Cass thought she was the one who got banished at first because they gave Josh's numbers, then Karen's. Curtis says it feels good to be nominated but not banished. Cass agrees. More laughing at dog. Curtis says they all can't move so that cameras don't have to move. They discuss how dog has taken over house. Cass says she thinks dog was in boys' room once. Curtis laughs that dog has been in their room a lot, will soon take over all couches and the chair. Dog walked over and flopped down right by Cassandra's head -- that was pretty funny. Cass laughing so hard she's crying. Jamie says Karen and dog were snoring very loudly last night. Curtis says not long b/c Karen came out for pre-party. Cass asks what pre-party was about. Curtis talks about last night's events, how Curtis, Josh, Ed and Karen got up and talked outside with keg. Brit is back. Gives everyone kisses, and then goes to bed. |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 11:02 pm  F1 Brit slammed door and woke up dog. Curtis says the dog would lick an intruder until he petted her. Cass tries to calm dog down, but camera moves and dog barks at it. Jamie calms her down. Curtis asks if dogs have six nipples and Cass laughs at him. BB tells Jamie to put mike on. Curtis asks if they can go in RR (he and Cass are both waiting), didn't hear reply. Jamie is going to bed, taking dog, hugs and kisses for Curt and Cass. Curtis is losing battle against dog hair, but he says things seem to be fine so far. He hasn't used medication yet. Curtis says that they are the "two urban ethnic professionals". Cass jokes that audience just dropped 50%. Curtis jokes that he has a billion fans on other side of earth. Cass jokes that they don't have TVs, Curtis says they make them. Cass jokes about percentage of web visitors from Africa. Eddie is back up, goes into kitchen. Cass says there is a large young audience for show based on people outside. Curtis is glad they got to see civilization for a second. |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 11:13 pm  F1 Curtis and Cass talking about how happy Karen was to see her kids. Cass is dying to see how it works out with her husband. Curt says George is optimistic about them, but he thinks husband showed up b/c he is so concerned about appearing supportive, not right husband for K and she's not right wife for him. Cass says they were kids when they got married, grew in different directions, only have one young kid left. Curtis suspects K will get divorced. Cass says kids being so glad to see her probably reassured K that she didn't do anything wrong. Curtis tries to figure out demographics of audience based on vote. Cass says vote was skewed because of Karen saying she wanted to go. Curt speculates some more. Cass says Josh has strong teenage following. Cass and Curt talk about why K got voted out -- was it a vote to keep Josh, a vote to reunite her with her kids, or because of K's reactions to being nominated? Cass doesn't know if public saw what they all went through. Curtis thinks she had so many conversations about it, they couldn't help but show it. Curtis looks forward to all of them seeing each other afterwards. Cass hopes that Jordan and Mega will be a part of it. Curtis doesn't know if Mega will want to, or if rest of group will want him to. Cass thinks Jordan left on a more positive note, with birthday party. Curtis says George has a good heart, saw good in Mega. Curtis thinks "so-called alliance" is no longer. Talking about how someone (Eddie?) will step up to plate and assume more paternal/maternal duties. Curtis says that Karen's loss is huge because she permeated every aspect of house. Cass was surprised that Karen started having trouble (even before noms) because she thought Karen was in it for the long haul. |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 11:20 pm  F1 Curt and Cass still only ones up (where did Eddie go?). Talking about how Karen's family was so happy to see her, and their own families are not as demonstrative, and they themselves have limited emotional spectrum. Curtis asks if Cass ever wishes she did feel more. Cass says she does feel emotions like others but chooses to control it and not share it, especially in the house because producers will use every tear she sheds. Curtis says people who are more emotional have huge highs and lows. Cass says that she and Curtis still have huge highs and lows, just don't show them and Curtis agrees. Cass says she has faced a lot of adversity, and if she fell apart at every turn, she would never have made it. Curt wonders if they picked people based on emotional scales. Cass says she was asked a lot of "control" questions. Curt says he was asked a lot about his emotions too. Cass says she was asked when the last time she cried, and she told them she doesn't cry in public because people use it against you, being open and emotional is dangerout because people can use it, but it also means that people think you don't feel. Cass is sure that some of her RR stuff comes off as cold. Curt asks if Cass is going to RR. Cass has to powder her nose. Curtis goes to bathroom. Good time to post! |
Janine | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 11:29 pm  Eddie Brit and Jamie were in the lovebed with the dog. B/c of hte snoring I'm having a hard time hearing...it looks like only one girl with Eddie now. Is this Jamie? Can someone help out She just told him that he can sleep in the love bed whenever he wants and he said that he might do that some time. they are whispering..all i hear are bits and pieces..sorry... |
Fresh | Wednesday, August 16, 2000 - 11:36 pm  Cass went into RR. F4 Jamie and Eddie whispering in love bed! I would have switched to this feed earlier had I known. Brit is sleeping in the bed too. Dog sleeping by Eddie's leg and snoring. Eddie talking about how fast things are going by, how they don't have much time left, 44 days the most they could be in there. Now just lying there, but Eddie isn't asleep. Dog is snoring SO LOUD! F7 Curtis is back in LR playing solitaire, waiting for Cass to come out. F1 Cass is back, talking to Curtis but no audio. Ooh, the mikes just came on and I had my speakers turned way up! Cass goes to bathroom and Curtis goes to RR, and I missed their entire conversation. |
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