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Big Brother 2 may fly in February says New York Times
Rufusgriswold | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:50 am  The New York Times this morning announced that a second outing of Big Brother is almost a certainty, probably as early as February, but CBS is demanding more control over casting and other details. Big Brother," the CBS reality series that did not become a hit, winds up its run on Friday, hoping to light some last-minute ratings sparks. But regardless of how well the show does this week, the series is close to winning a second life on CBS. Executives from both the network and the show's production company, Endemol, said a renewal announcement awaits only some last details. Probably the biggest is over control of things like casting and daily production, elements that CBS executives believe Endemol fell short on largely because it misread both American television and American culture. CBS will want more hands- on control of future versions of the show. Even Endemol executives have conceded that the American version of the show played out in ways radically different from previous European versions, all of which were far bigger ratings successes. Officially, CBS said it was satisfied with the ratings, which, while never spectacular, always improved the network's previous summer showing, especially among young viewers. Unofficially, many CBS executives expressed disappointment with the show — but never so much that a second edition was threatened. A new session could be ready as soon as February, Endemol executives said. For now, "Big Brother" may only be summer programming for CBS — unless threatened strikes by Hollywood writers and actors come to pass. In that case, CBS may want "Big Brother" available to fill scheduling holes. "Big Brother" will eliminate one of the four remaining house guests on Wednesday and collect votes from the audience on Thursday and Friday to choose among the final three. Friday's finale will be a live show, with the third-place finisher announced first. Then the host, Julie Chen, will enter the house and sit down with the last two contestants before she tells them who gets the first prize of $500,000. Second place is worth $100,000, and third $50,000. BILL CARTER Copyright 2000 The New York Times Company http://www.nytimes.com/2000/09/25/business/25BRO.html |
Webrover9 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:00 am  That would be good, maybe I'll be caught up on my housework by then! |
Auntie | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:18 am  I sure hope the people at CBS read my website on Suggestions for Big Brother 2001. http://www.auntie.com/bigbrother.asp Please feel free to add your suggestions to the message board on the site. |
Wahoowa | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:59 am  Webrover, too funny! Me, too. February? But what about the weather issue? Remember the other day the HGs talking about how lame it is that they can't spend as much time in pool, etc., because of the cold weather. What will they do in Feb?! |
John | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:01 am  Hope this site and others keep up so I and others can know how to submit ourselves for the next one. Feb is perfect for me as summer is busy time for me. I wonder if they will stipulate that to be on the next one, you can not have been a viewer of this one, as I have to admit I would try to insure I didn't act certain ways that were unpopular with us. I'd be myself (which was Cassandra's mistake, NOT being herself) but I would try to be cautious not to be outspoken (Mega), emotional (Karen) or too much of a certain way (Brit and George). Although, we really don't know how the mind works in there, so for all we know, they all could have went in thinking not to be the way they turned out. |
Judy | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:43 am  I wonder if "Beth" has a guaranteed spot on BB2? |
Wahoowa | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:47 am  Too funny, Judy! I hope not with that sourpuss attitude she has - wouldn't watch the show because she was so sore about not being chosen. |
Shmoopie | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:13 am  Wonder when/if we will hear word for sure on this matter. I'd love to try out for it, think it'd be a blast. Even if not, I'd love to be able to see it again. I miss the show already, just thinking about Friday is making me sad... If you hear anymore, let us know, and thanks for the insight. BTW, the petition is still going, just not very strong. If ya'll have time, check out the petition and sign if ya don't mind.... http://www.petitionpetition.com/cgi/petition.cgi?id=821 |
Judy | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:37 am  <because of the cold weather. What will they do in Feb?! > 10 man hot tub!! A nice big fire/bbq pit that everyone can sit around in front of - have some cocktails and roast marshmallows Snowball fights Naked Snow Angels!!!!!! |
Creamynougat | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:45 am  Maybe they can figure out how to keep the HGs away from the influence of airbanners, megaphones and tennis balls. |
Ccc | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:52 am  Too funny Judy - but I think the naked snow angels are out. I did hear they had snow flurries once back in the eighties . . . and most of Hollywood was outside frantically trying to snort it. Being inside more would cause a lot more interaction, maybe some verbal fights - and maybe they'll find a sofa to have sex behind. Definitely more friction (no pun intended...well, if you must) |
Webrover9 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:52 am  Auntie I just read your suggestions and you have some great ones! I would suggest everyone go to your page and read it! I am suggesting nicely though. |
Shayrainb | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:35 pm  Rufus,thanks for the info,that makes me happy!! |
Green | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:47 pm  If they do have another BB, they should schedule it to air simultaneously on both coasts ... 10:30 pm Eastern 7:30 pm Pacific 9:30 pm Central and live shows would start a half-hour earlier ... right? |
Kiari | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:28 pm  wouldn't that be 8:30 pacific time? |
Lynnseamonkey | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 10:04 pm  I read somewhere that in several of the European BB houses the weather was quite nasty but still the HG spent much time outside, so I gather having a yard is a good thing. |
Riviere76 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:50 pm  Thanks for sharing the NYTimes article. I really wondered if CBS would try another BB show, since this one hasn't been everything hoped for. IMHO it's just dragged on too long, American players and viewers are mostly more uptight and or too polite to be themselves on 24/7 cameras, and it makes for boring entertainment. These HGs turned a potentially exciting gameshow into a bland ice cream social. Unlike Survivor's faster pace that never lost sight of the gaming element, these HGs began acting like it is just another hohum day in the Little House on the Prairie, every day, until I even had to stop watching the live feeds. I've seen threads giving viewers flak about putting $ needs into their voting criteria. Again, another example it's been on air too long, some forget it was the HGs themselves who brought up their needs for the prize money in RR and between 2-3 talking yet when the whole group was together they'd try to out-nice each other and take some high moral, just here for the exp. stance. As in, "I really don't want any money." "I don't want it more than you don't want it!" "I want so & so to have it since he 'needs' it most." ETC.. Their finances have nothing to do with my voting choices, just funny seeing posters here bicker over that topic when it's been the HGs talking about their needs and plans for the cash more than anyone out here. Hope CBS will take a firmer grip on control, make it maybe a 7 week show with 8 HGs or something, 1 winner only. Give em 2 weeks to get to know each other (and us them) and start banishing weekly on week 2, they'd have a lot less time to get bored and forget it's a gameshow, not summercamp.. I'd like to see Beth there for sure! CBS could run a few BB games per year if it was shorter, give one prize of $250k per game. They could make it age 20s & 30s, then 30s & 40s next, keep a closer age range to avoid some problems that happened this time. Just a few changes I'd like to see.. This has been a nice enough group of HGs and I wish em all the best, but I can't wait until it ends. I predicted the outcome within 5 weeks and there is just no suspense, only a lot of sleeping now! BB could be a good format if the public fascination with reality gameshows continues. With changes. Can't see a full USA live show because there are so many time zones to consider. 10pm EST is 9pm CST, 8pm MST, 7pm PST, and 6pm Alaska-Hawaii, it would cost CBS viewers in some areas, and I think any BB2 show would need all the ratings help it can get, IMHO.. |
Larrblue | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:09 am  Wow, Auntie! You're my choice for the producer of the next Big Brother! You obviously put a lot of thought into those suggestions. I like most of them. (BTW you have a typo where you reference Survivor - you say Josh needed to invite someone on the boat and I think you meant Sean). |
Snogrl | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:56 am  Riviere 76, I'm honored you included Alaska in your list of time zones. We are usually left out. Actually we get BB at 7pm AST which is the same as 8pm PST. |
Riviere76 | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 05:31 am  Hi Snogrl, I'd sure never forget Alaska! I have lived or traveled in many states but spent the most years on Kodiak Is.. I'm on Central time these days, but remember tv in Alaska. That is why I mentioned the difficulty of a USA wide live BB show. I see it truly live now at 7pm when HGs are on live at 5pm Pacific, and it's 8pm Eastern time. Going west a tape delay is required to air it at 8pm Pacific and 7pm A-H. To broadcast live in all zones would interfere with other programs, local newscasts, etc.. I can't imagine New York residents viewing at 10, or Alaskans viewing at 6, and only Pacific & Mountain time residents watch at the usual primetime of 7 or 8. Be nice if we could all see the live shows live, but you see how it is. CBS would take a big loss on a show with already so-so ratings.. If they have a BB2 could you imagine an Alaskan on it? After those long, dark, near claustrophobic winters a few months in BB house would be a cakewalk. On the other hand, one might be so used to wide open spaces it would make BB house seem like being stuck in jail. |
Samplecd | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 06:15 am  Just to let you guys know. CBS is starting to get names for BB2. GO to www.cbs.com and go to the big brother part of that website, and it has a link to click on to sign up to be a contestant. |
Fruitbat | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 06:40 am  Auntie...great site! |
Tootseug | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 09:46 am  Weather in LA? I don't think that's much of an issue. I do think the hot tub is a great idea, as well as a sauna. I ALWAYS go naked in a sauna! |
Tootseug | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 09:48 am  Auntie. Your site is great. Very well thought out. Keep your phone line clear..you may be getting a call from BB producers! |
Rootinforeddie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 03:16 pm  C'mon guys!! Sign the petition for BB2001. I just checked it out and I was #246. I can't belive that there aren't more people pushing for another Big Brother. I have really enjoyed all of the highs and lows with BB2000, and I am starting to get a little depressesd to think it's almost over........................SIGH Hope to see ya'll next year!!! |
Skw | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:04 pm  Well, I for one hope they get different editors for the show. As boring as these people are a good portion of the time, it doesn't compare to what BBhas put on the air. There are so many times, (eddie's racism, political discussions, misc. disclosures and most of all funny, funny comments made by the hgs that never get on the air. We all have heard that commment, 'you had to be there'. Well this proved to me once and for all, 'had to be there' extends so far as to even if it was taped it isn't as funny as when inthe house. And time and time again we've seen eddie, josh, jaiME, and George the laughing hyena Oswell, amuse themselves but not anyone else. It's as if the producers on the other hand think it's more important to make us feel as that the hgs are having fun rather than us! The interesting moments are when someone makes a comment and evryone gets uncomfortable because its out of line or a hg makes a joke that truly is funny because of its trueness and they way it was deadpanned. Its often lost on the hgs but not us.(ie<paraphrased> George: "I would've been good at dem dar survivor with the strugglin' and all" Cass " MMMMHmmmm" That is only funny when watched and only by us. Also a HUGE beef and a question to you all. Wouldn't you have much preferred a couple episodes where fewer situations were on the show but they were set up completely so you could get invested in the relationships/discussions going on instead of mere slipshod clips of interesting dialogue mixed in with someone throwing a ball around or jamie plucking her eyebrows. That's one of the biggest complaints of movies.(No plot development, therefore no investment in the chars. Would anyone still watch frinds if all Phoebe did was make dumb comments and Ross whined about his lesbian exwife) In reference to the grooming habits or dumb activities, WE DONT CARE. Cleaning up chicken dung does not make exciting television! If someone is angry or distrustful, wouldn't it be nice to know why? The first two weeks were a riot with mega. It was somewhat interesting, since they actually aired tension between hgs, but how could you not? There was never a moment with Mega that tension didn't exist. but you never knew why-from the broadcast. It was like a bad comic serial. " And now the ADVENTURES OF ANGRY BLACK MAN!!! Last week when we left him Angry Black man was heard saying 'Don't write a check thta your ass can't cash. This week watch as our evil villain, ABM spontaneously gets into a fight with brittany for no apparent reason and hear him being counseled by Mature Grounded Black Woman "Look I know they don't understand you but whatever you said or did, which noone will ever find out, is going to get you booted." "MGBW, I hear you, but I pity the fool that argues with ABM" (Mr T's voice dubbed to prevent any understanding of ABM) Tune in next time to hear little, learn less and watch as EVERY interesting character gets booted off the showuntil we climax with Jamie saying " As the sage Milton Bradley once said, We're all winners in the game of life, Or at least I am. I'm coming Anthony!!!" Someone help this show. PS I stand by my request that the most BORING person is voted off, if not by the hgs at least by the viewers. Pardon me I think I need a nap. |
Lafatme | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 04:05 pm  WOW auntie, you did your homework! i would add one more thing: make the daily update shows more like the evening news. have an anchor who "updates" what's going on then shows clips to illustrate it. the random clips with voiceover used now is too spotty and hard to follow for the tv only watcher. the anchor can tell the viewers about current polls and internet activity, expose websites, etc. on slow days guests can be brought in to comment on what's happening. like dr. drew but also including personalities. for instance, when talking about rosie being an "eddie fan" bring rosie on to comment. anthony sepulveda could have been on to talk about "his side" of the jamie interview. these opinions will only enhance our perspectives and make the show more enjoyable. imagine if brit's mom and teresa were on big brother update instead of the early show. i don't get the early show connection anyway. promote BB on BB. |
Joni | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 06:59 pm  I think that they should do what the Italy house is doing.. THere is a channel that is playing the house 24hrs a day.. Kinda like ED. I would watch it.. I think that it would be better than just watching the fuzzy screens on the internet.. I highly doubt that they do that though.. Ah a wish.. |
Chris | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:04 pm  Joni: Wow. If there was a BB channel, I would definitely have it on most of the time. |
Rufusgriswold | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:08 pm  I'm unclear as to why we're signing a petition for BB2. The contracts are already being signed, and I don't think 250+ signatures are going to speed the process up any. |
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