Archive through September 23, 2000

The ClubHouse: Big Brother 2000: Live Feeds - Latest News: Big Brother I Archive: September 23 - Live Nominations: Archive through September 23, 2000

Dagny

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:11 am Click here to edit this post

Still on feed 4...and whispering now...

They are talking about the wizard of oz web page.
Cowardly lion...found out he had courage all along
ect...but didn't catch what she said about the good witch.(Jaime)

Curtis "who the hell came up with the pool idea anyway? Silly people!!"

Talk about tomorrow being the live show...and "I guess nominations" "either before or during the live show"

Jamie and Curtis are now alone in the LR...discussing the live show...and Cassandra
coming into the house. (Where did Josh go?)

(bed time for me...)

Dagny

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:16 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis asks Jamie about a particular banner...
and "what did it say?"

She says...it was to all the boys...and they should vote her out..."or something like that" she says.

(why would he ask her this, he saw the banner!)

Curtis talks about his brother having a baby...
and what fun...or something like that.

jamie step-sibblings have children (sharing with
curtis)

(Can someone find Josh and Eddie?? Don't want to leave this conversation)

Noslonna

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:16 am Click here to edit this post

Things have calmed down. Curtis sitting in hall area and Jamie joins him. Curtis is saying to pug, "Come to me where it is safe."

Curtis talk about lazy pug. Josh says she ran today and tells her, "You are a beautiful pug."

Curtis starts to sing, "Beautiful, beautiful, pug."

Jamie talking about the Good Witch of the North and how that is Rosie's favourite. She is munching on chiops out of a bag.

Curtis and Jamie promenade hand in hand towards LR where they sit on couch.

Curtis asks Jamie if she is tired. She says, "Not really."

They wonder when Cassandra is coming. Jamie wonders if she is not coming til after they nominate so she can't influence them.

Curtis says maybe she will just be here an unlimited time, maybe only during the live show.

They talk about what they would want to know from her. Jamie says there is stuff she would want to ask her on a personal level but she would never do it on a live show.

Jamie keeps talking about influence from the banners. Curtis says he has trouble remembering them all now.

Curtis trying to remember the one from today that said "boys." Jamie said it was the one that said to save Eddie and vote her out. Curtis brushes it off, "oh yeah, I could only remember the "boys" part.

Curtis says maybe he should have used his time more wisely when he spoke to his mom and found out some information. Then he decides he found out good stuff from his mom like the fact he was going to be an uncle and it is going to be a boy.


(Looks like they are going to keep chatting so I will post now.)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:18 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie, Josh and Curt were still in Bathroom.. Jamie leaned over and whispered her "Good witch has a crush on mayor of munchkinland" comment to Josh. He says "Oh really", but no other comment.

Jamie and Curtis go to LR. Talk about live show tomorrow and nominations. Wonder if Cass will be coming during the live show. Jamie says, if she is only allowed to come for 5 minutes, she wont ask her anything, it would be pointless. Also says she has alot personally to ask, but wont in front of the cameras.

They talk about the banners today. Jamie says, everyone has their own websites. Curtis says "not me!"

Jamie says she is step-aunt to many children. (Josh is on kitchen floor playing w/Pugita)

Jamie: You know what I've learned in life? WHen God throws shit (Ed: So now God sent her banners?) at you in life, he has a reason. He has put me in them to prepare me for something in life. (silence) Like today is an opportunity to take something false that hurts my feelings and deal with it.

Silence...posting

Dagny

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:21 am Click here to edit this post

Looking for Josh and Eddie... Feed 1
FOUND JOSH!! he is laying on the floor in the
bathroom?? playing with the pug.

(Eddie must have gone to bed...."to warm up")

Ok...Josh isn't doing anything...so going back to
LR to hear more of Curtis and jaimie's conversation.

Feed 3...Jamie looking down the hall at josh and
pug.

Josh is playing with pug...and cam does close up
on Jamie watching.

Josh joins the group.

(now I am really outa here...someone take over!!)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:24 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie and Curtis talk about what all they have done today, can't remember. Laugh about George's misspelling of chicken, wonder if he meant to spell it wrong.

(One thing from awhile back... when Ja, Curt, and Josh were in the bathroom, Eddie yelled to them, saying "what do you think I look like, a joker or an ace?" Josh said an ace, Curtis said a joker, and Jamie refused to respond. He acted like he was juat talking about a deck of cards he had, but the other HG's caught on to what he was saying. BB interupted at that moment to tell them all to put on their mics.)

Curtis hugs Jamie and is going to bed, Jamie says she will sleep in George's bed tonight. Jamie and Josh left in the LR. Jamie starts the "which would you choose" game.

Dagny

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:26 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis is off to bed...and they (josh and curtis) told her she was invited to sleep in the guys room

jamie picks up the "what would you choose game"
AGAIN...

Noslonna

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post

[Dagny, just noticed your question. It was Josh coughing]

Novasea

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:49 am Click here to edit this post

Can anyone refresh here about the curfew? Was it lifted? I hope so!

Novasea

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:52 am Click here to edit this post

Nice, relaxing, quiet "What would you choose" game and short (revealing) conversation still continuing between Josh and Jamie :)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:52 am Click here to edit this post

Haven't heard anything about the curfew.. Curtis and Eddie are asleep, and Jamie and Josh aer still trying to play that stupid game... (ED: Give it up, already..)

Meridian

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:08 am Click here to edit this post

No curfew yet. I _think_ Big Brother is playing along with the Saboteur game. Since Josh has set the clock back an hour, curfew will be at 2 AM.

Sparky

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:09 am Click here to edit this post

Josh has to be biding his time to change the clock again.... Jamie go to sleep!

Novasea

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:13 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie worked in the Safeway, bagging groceries, while she was in training for the fitness contest (bodybuilding one she was in, maybe?)... on the diet they were on the 1.5 Liter bottles of water she had to drink made her sick when she drank it on her breaks but the 1 liter bottles didn't. She had to drink 2 gallons a day during that training time.

(Ed: So not a spoiled little rich girl. Hardworking, needs $$$?)

Josh: doesn't want to go with the group. Wants to stay with the logical approach, individual.

Pondering.
Still silence.

They seem tired.
Josh: I think that I have one fear. That I will be misunderstood my whole life. I don't think I have found a person that completely understand me. He hasn't meet anyone that tried to completely understand me...

now said he means some have tried,

Josh: Sometimes people see me as a contradiction.
Like my talking with you out by the pool that night and doing naked trampoline. Some might think I am acting..

<sorry too much to fast>
he feels he has to do what feels right for him even if it is or seems like a contradiction.

Silence.
Jamie: What about your guy friends, do they...Josh: They can seem to get only one thing at a time. Wouldn't get both sides (of above example.)

JO it is hard to explain,
the way I think and the way I feel arent't the same.

I think I should be, showed dignity take care and business. Then have a good time and all that.

I ACT on both what I think and feel, and I do both to the extremes... that is what people to understand. He doesn't want people to be critical of it... I have never hurt anyone, my intentions are good. I wouldn't hurt anyone, I have nothing to be ashamed.

What it comes down to is I don't want people to be critical.

Jamie: How are people critical. I haven't seen that.

Josh: hard to explain....
in 3 months.

Jamie asks him, no one, Friends or ....

I don't think I have experienced being unconditionally loved.

People question his intentions?

Jamie: You don't think you will find someone who loves you unconditionally, enough not to question your intentions?

Josh: Yeah

Silence

Posting.... (ED: couldn't get all Jamie's questions typed in here.. good conv.)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:15 am Click here to edit this post

Josh says when Eddie and Curtis are arguing, Josh takes into account what everyone is saying, but basically has to stay out of it (??)

Jamie: The audio people are laughing their asses off at that argument.
Josh: It wasn't an argument though, just a disagreement. Say I ahve four freinds...I've never been one to go with people. What I think is logical, I always take a logical approach.

(ED: WTF is he rambling about this time?)Silence

Josh: I take that back, I have one fear, I have a fear that I will be misunderstood my whole life. That I'll never find someone who wants to know all of me. I'm sure alot of people feel that way.

Jamie: You don't think anyone know you now?

Josh: No, I mean some people have tried to get to know me. I really feel like I am a contradiction, and people don't understand. Like, people will see you and me by the pool the other day, and now see me naked tonight, and think "how can he be that way". But you see, both are me, and seome people might think I am a liar or fake, but thats just who I am. (Is he worried about Cass??)

Jamie: WHat about your guy freinds.. don't they get you. (he shakes his head no) Really? So you think they are your best friend, but they don't know you.

Josh: They know me, but don't understand me. They don't know why I do the things I do. The way I thinka and the way I feel are always 2 different things. I think I should be serious and dignified, but I feel like I should go out and have fun. But I act on Both... I do both to the extreme. And its not even that I want people to totally understand, I just don't want them to be critical of it. I never hurt anyone, my intentions are always good. I don't feel like I ahve anything to be ashamed of anything. I feel like I am not critical, and people are critical of me sometimes.

Jamie: How are people critical of you, I don't really see that.

Josh: You'd have to spend alot more time with me than three months. I don't feel like I have ever been unconditionally loved. (silence) And it hurts that, it feels like my intentions have always been questioned.

Jamie: Why do you feel like your intentions have always been questions?

Josh: Cause noones ever understood me. (silence)

Jamie: Do you worry about that more because out of friends and family, you've never found someone who feels that way?

Josh: I am scared that I will be surrounded by people my whole life that don't understand me. I hope and pray that will change. I would be lying if I said I wasn't afraid.

Jamie: You'll find that person. I know you'll find your soul mate. (silence)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:26 am Click here to edit this post

Josh: sometimes I feel like my supporters are not even my supporters. Thats why when I get out of here, every family member will be behind me and support me, but may not have liked what I did in here. They just won't understand. (silence) And I am the last person to talk about this normally. I hate to whine and ••••• and moan about stuff. This is the one thing I've never been able to fix or change, I'm at a loss. I don't know what to do with it.

Jamie: Do people take the time to listen to everything you have to say?

Josh: Some do, it's not something I really talk about.

Jamie: you can look at people and unless they have experienced something, they'll never know. Like this week, know one will ever know what it was like except those that experience it. (silence)

Josh: ANd i hate to talk like this, ever, because I think I am a very lucky person. Its just, I am at a loss.

Ja: What to you mean?

Josh: Its like you said, I'll just have to wait, and hope to find the right person, someone who will understand. (sielnce)

Ja: I see what you are saying, about takeing both to extreme, but I don't see anything wrong with it. Yuo shouldn't care if people critique you.

Josh:(someone) questioned his intentions, and he got angry and had to take a few breaths.

Ja: Questioned you? About what?

Josh: I'll tell you later, it infuriated me.

Jamie: Tell me in a week?

Kalihiwahine

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:29 am Click here to edit this post

Josh & Jamie laying on separate sofas...discussing how much josh has not been able to get anyone to really understand him..

Josh saying that he's not the type to b itch and whine...if something is wrong, just take care of it...basically this is the one thing he is lost on...

Jamie asks josh if people take the time to listen to him...Josh says that he does not blame anyone...it's his responsibility... Jamie tells him he'll find people who will understand him...

josh: and I hate to talk like this because i'm a happy person..but let's just say I'm at a loss..
goes on to say that he likes to think this is something he can change or fix...

jamie: i can see what you're saying but you don't need to take it to extremes..

jo: these people in here (bb house), they question me all the time...my intentions...

jamie: like what...

josh: i'll tell you later

ja: you'll tell me in a week

ja says something [i didn't get it, sorry]

jo: it infuriates me..

lots of silence...

[BB HAS NOT announced curfew yet...I guess they're going to help the saboteur]

Noslonna

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:31 am Click here to edit this post

1:00 AM - 1:30 AM

Jamie and Josh in LR.

joining conversation...

Josh just said, "Three people arguing with a drunk man, can't win."

Josh says with his friends he is the one that takes the logical approach.

silence

Josh says, "I think I have one fear, I fear I will be misunderstood my whole life."

Jamie says, "Mmm"

Josh says it has happened all his life and he doesn't feel anyone understands him.

Jamie asks if he feels he understands anyone.

Josh thinks he does. He says he has made an effort and he has made an effort to help other understand him.

Josh says he has always had a problem making people understand. He refers to the night he talked to Jamie by the pool and compares it to him jumping naked on a trampoline. He fears people won't understand that is just him being himself even though it looks contradictory.

He repeats a lot of people don't understand, but it would be nice if they did.

Jamie asks "What about your guy friends, do they understand you?"

Josh says he can act like he did tonight around his friends. Josh says they know him and expect it but they don't understand.

Josh says he feels like he acts on what he thinks is right but sometimes he wants to follow his heart.

He doesn't want people to be critical of him. He says his intentions are always good and he never hurts anyone. He says he always tries not to hurt anyway. He says what it all comes down to is he is not ashamed of anything he has done. He also says he feels he is not critical of others.

Jamie asks him how other people are critical of him. Josh answers that she would have to know him a lot longer then 3 months for him to be able to explain.

Jamie pursues the issue and says she doesnt understand how people are critical. He says he has never felt unconditional love... people always question his intentions.

Jamie thinks. She paraphrases, "So what you are saying is that people never understand you and always question your intentions?"

Josh agrees, "Yes, it's as simple as that."

silence

Jamie asks if he worries about it when he is around friends and family.

Josh says it is his biggest fear that he could have a million people around him and still lead a lonely existence.

Josh says, "but I am an optimist and I hope and pray it doesn't last." He adds he is not afraid.

Jamie says she doesn't thinks he will find the person to love. Josh says its not just about finding a person he loves, its also about friends and family.

Josh says he could get out of there and find all sorts of love and support from friends and family but they could still disagree with everything he has done or said.

Jamie asks, "Disagree or not understand?"

Josh answers, "Not understand."

Josh says, "I am the last one to moan and cry like this. If something is wrong I am the first person to fix it." He goes on to say this is the one thing he has never been able to fix. He says he is at a loss to know what to do to fix it.

Jamie probes further, "Do most people take the time to ask and listen?"

Josh says "Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining about other people." He says it is his problem.

Jamie tells him to try and understand it is not other people, it is something he is trying to understand and feeling.

Jamie compares it to people going through Vietnam, others can't understand what they went through. She says on a much smaller scale it is like what they are going through in Big Brother. She reassures him that he will find other people that understand what he is going through.

Josh says he "hates to talke live this, ever." He says he feels he is a very lucky person but he is just at a loss.

Jamie murmurs, "I know."

Josh says he will just have to wait and hope the majority of people understand. He hopes there is something he can fix.

Jamie says she sees what he is saying.

Josh says, most people don't.

Jamie doesnt understand why most people wounldn't understand.

Josh says people always question his intention, like with John.

Jamie asks "Like what?"

Josh says he will tell her later. Jamie asks, "Like in a week?"

Josh gives a nervous giggle.

Jamie persists, "He questioned your intentions?"

Josh admits, "He questioned my integrity, three times."

Jamie is intrigued, "Really, with what?"

Josh says, "I won't even go there."

Jamie says, "mmm" and asks him if they talked to him about it in the RR tonight.

Josh says the only thing that is important is that he doesn't question his own integrity.

Jamie says, "mmm"

(There are long silences between almost every sentence uttered between these two. Sorry, I feel all I have done is clone the words critical, understand and integrity... posting before I have to retype them.)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:32 am Click here to edit this post

Josh: He literally questioned my integrity. He asked me three times.

Jamie: ABout what? (he mumbles) Who was in there today when you went in. (couldn't hear reply)

(LONG silence)

Ja: You'll do fine, though. Just that you know yourself that well, You're ahead of 90 percent of people. You internalize so much though. I know that because I do it all the time. If I were to guess, I would say you internalize 95 percent of what yuu think. Am I close?

Josh: Not what I think, what I feel. I say everything I think.

Ja; I don't think so. (silence)

Memyselfi

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:48 am Click here to edit this post

Jmie and Josh appear to be getting ready for sleep. Jamie says there is something huge on her forehead.. a bite from the pool maybe.

Jamie was haning around Josh in the bathroom, cornered him and gave him a bih hug. "That feels so good"

Both go into the BR and settle down.. (Now I am going to my BR to settle down.. Night)

Noslonna

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:49 am Click here to edit this post

1:45 AM - 1:50 AM
Josh in kitchen. Jamie comes in with pug and tells Josh she is going to take her out before she goes to bed.

Josh wanders back to LR and straightens out cushions on sofa.

He walks around yawning and goes back to kitchen. Jamie is coming in from outside. She somehow got a scratch or somthing on her face. Josh asks if it hurts, he saw it earlier at the pool. Jamie rushes to look in mirror in bathroom then goes back to kitchen.

Jamie calls for Chiquita from back door. Pugita finally finishes her business and follows Jamie to bathroom.

Josh is in bathroom. Jamie says goodnight and they share a big, long hug. Jamie goes towards boy's room and Josh asks if she is sleeping there. She is.

Cam switches to boy's room and Eddie sleeping. Jamie closes door and gets into George's old bed. Curtis is sleeping in his bed, snoring.

All feeds are on boy's room.

Lawyerman

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 05:13 am Click here to edit this post

All four feeds are in the cave, where everyone was sleeping. At about 5:00 a.m. BBT, Eddie got up and left the room, and as of now, is not in the room. All our feeds show Josh, Curtis, and Jamie sleeping in the cave. Don't know if the pug is there or not.

Lawyerman

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 05:16 am Click here to edit this post

After about ten minutes of his absence, Eddie has returned to the cave. Jamie moved a bit and Eddie whispered softly, "Slacker," as he entered the room. Eddie then climbed into bed and presumably went back to sleep.

Lawyerman

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 05:44 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis got up a few minutes ago and left the cave for about five minutes. Everyone else was seemingly sleeping. When Curtis returned to the cave, Eddie whispered to him, "Corn fed logfish." Curtis then climbed back into bed.

Corriecat

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 07:04 am Click here to edit this post

I've been waiting to see if our sabateur will get up early. All feeds have been showing the 4 HG's sleeping. Sounds of snoring and occasional rustle as someone moves in their sleep.

Dilligaf

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 08:25 am Click here to edit this post

(Will add this since no one posted it last night. After the groceries arrived, Josh volunteered to change out the potatoes in the clock. He worked on the clock for several minutes and placed it up high on one of the cupboards. After a minute he asks Eddie if the clock should be blinking. He said it needed to be reset to stop the blinking so Josh reset the clock and put it back on the cupboard. A few minutes later, BB showed a closeup of the clock at 6:55PM and it was indeed 1 HOUR behind real time. So he did his second round of sabotaging right in front of all the HGs. Thought I would clear this up.)

Corriecat

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 08:53 am Click here to edit this post

Well I'm back from taking hubby to work and it looks like I haven't missed much. Still nothing but snoring from the BR on all 4 feeds.

Switching to other cams because I thought I heard someone walking and speaking in a low voice - Bob maybe?. Could not be sure - may just be the snoring on my feed. Chickens are up and loudly calling Eddie to come feed them.

Looking at the control room now. Sounds of HG's snoring. (Funny! Makes it look like the control room people are bored and sleeping.)

Argh! RP died will post and reboot.

Watcher

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 08:57 am Click here to edit this post

Just checking in on HG

All feeds on BR...appears everyone still sleeping

Light snoring can be heard, no movement

(be back later)

Avenlee

Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 09:33 am Click here to edit this post

Whoop, Eddie's up and about going to take a shower I believe. He woke up JA to ask if she wanted to get up to take one.

CUR is now out of bed and playing with something under the bed. (Fresh clothes) and exits the Mens BR.

Ed goes into the RR.

CUR goes to K sink to look at the clock??? then proceeds into the Bathroom, goes into the W/C. (Hate the morning rituals)


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