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Rpupkin | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 01:51 am  Alien8 - if Curtis said that Josh or Eddie should have won, would you think that he was any less of a "phony self serving b*tch"?? Either way it'd probably somehow still reinforce your belief that he's fake and selfish. Sounds like there's a bitterness or hatred in your voice towards him that built up awhile ago. Just curious, are you an Eddie or Josh supporter?? If Eddie had said the same exact thing as Curtis, would you say that Eddie choked? I doubt it... |
Guitarman | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 01:56 am  Rpupkin, you said it all. Good posts. |
Solos | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:05 am  Gooooooooooooo Eddie ....Go Josh !!!! |
Big_Al | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:08 am  Haven't read all of the posts on this thread, so I don't know if this point has been made already, but it seem to me that Curtis was the only one of the three smart enough to answer the question two ways--who would you like to win (himself) and who is deserving to win (any one of them). He was also was the only one smart enough to point out, in effect, that it didn't matter who he or the others preferred because it's the public who votes for them, not themselves. My criteria is that it's the smartest one that should win, not the poorest or the dumbest!! Vote Curtis!!! |
Karri | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:13 am  I have to agree. Curtis answered honestly. He didn't lie to gain votes. I wouldn't want him to say anything differently than he did. It would have been fake. Eddie should have stated he hoped to win, but if Josh won he would be very happy for him. That would have been honest and aligned with everything Eddie has ever said. I'm ok with Eddie or Curtis winning first. I'll be spending some big bucks on them (one more than the other). Entertainment value. The one who entertained me the most..gets more money. My payment for a good time. Josh was entertaining tonight. But as Jenna said about Ramona..it's a little too little too late. |
Guitarman | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:21 am  Eddie is the one who choked. All along Eddie says that his family needs the money for doctor bills, to move and so on. Very good reasons to vote Eddie if you are basing your decision on need. Now Eddie says that Josh is worse off. Why does Eddie change his mind now? |
Guitarman | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:33 am  Curtis could have done better “Curtis Choked” implies that Curtis blew it because he came across as selfish. Nonsense! Essentially, what Curtis said was that he would like to win but whatever happens is cool. Jeez, how can someone find fault with that! Do the folks slamming Curtis think he should have said Eddie or Josh should win? I was a little disappointed in Curtis’ answer because it was too blasé. Maybe he does not really care that much about the money at this point. I dunno. Anyway, this was his final argument for taking home the big prize and I thought it was a little weak. He gave a very safe answer. Too safe I think. He is going to get third if the public votes on need so what does he have to loose? Something like “first prize should go to the winner of the game. And the winner is the one who ....” and he could go on to list positive things he had done in the house. No begging, just an attempt to shift the audiences mindset away from need and towards accomplishment. Josh gave a good answer. I thought he was sincere. It was consistent with he previous statements. Also, kudos to CBS for not spinning the vote on Wed. Night and letting the HG’s put the spin on it themselves. |
Georgeliveson | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:50 am  Bali, I have to agree. Can you do anything else besides rant, rave and insult other posters? It's people like you that are ruining the fun of this board. Geez, lighten up. I like all three guys and don't know who to vote for, I'm leaning towards Eddie or Josh. Hate to see the show end Friday. |
Zaney | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:52 am  I took the question as other than you who should win? Because who doesn't think they (themself)should win? That's why their all there. |
Kuh | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:56 am  Georgeliveson - Bali is merely offering a passionate defense of her opinions. |
Kuh | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 03:37 am  Zaney - The question was worded so that it was open to interpretation, it doesn't matter how you took it. |
Ocean_Islands | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 04:05 am  After Curtis's behavior last night, you have to wonder if he hates Josh and/or is extremely jealous of him to take advantage of him while he had been drinking. I'm amazed that Curtis's strategy has fallen apart to this extent. Curtis truly revealed himself last night on many levels and showed how he does not deserve to win. |
Lucyricardo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 04:22 am  I was going to stay out of this but cannot. Kuh, there is no excuse for insulting other posters. A person can passionately state their opinion without resorting to insults. NO excuse at all. Ocean, I agree with you regarding Curtis and Josh. Oh well, at least they are enjoying the last days in the house. I am happy to see all three of them up for some money. |
Kuh | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 04:44 am  It's funny to watch people literally grasping at straws in a last-minute, desperate attempt to sway votes. Not gonna happen. Unless Curtis sprouts horns, turns red and carves 666 with a rusty razor blade on Josh's forehead, he's got my vote to win it all. |
Smashedkat | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:14 am  Oh come on! Both Josh and Eddie went for the sympathy vote. Don't believe for an instant they both want themselves to win and believe they are the most deserving. Curtis just told it how it is instead of playing the audience. Surely you all know this. I am voting for Curtis for being upfront and forthright. |
Bali | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 05:26 am  Georgeliveson - Your use of those pejorative terms says a lot about why I wouldn't take your insults seriously. But let me try anyway. Stealth willingly and knowingly threw out untrue statements and used them to deliberately say something negative about Curtis. I didn't think this was right and felt compelled to point it out. We all support whichever hg we like, but shouldn't there be some STANDARD OF TRUTH to hold on to? She is acting blithely like this doesn't matter. I have no respect or patience with people who will use ridiculous, inaccuracies and act ladeeda about it. It says so much about their lack of integrity. If you're going to say something negative about a hg, at least use something real to substantiate your point. Saying that Curtis doesn't deserve to be the winner because he makes an x amount of dollars and then in a later post, saying she doesn't really care what he makes...is ridiculous. She made it a personal matter and in post after post, in her responses, has also insulted me. Just because I'm a little more articulate and clear about what I'm talking about doesn't make my points as "rants". People like you who support Eddie or Josh are obviously bothered by the fact that I'm trying to be an advocate for accuracy. You're telling me I shouldn't insult others and yet that's all you did in your post - insult me, without acknowledging at all what this is all about. I'm sorry if there are others who are bothered by the exchanges between Stealth and myself. I didn't mean it to get to this point but I have a right to defend myself as well. Curtis isn't a perfect guy but he has shown far more basic human decency than anyone else (IMO)...but if you disagree and want either Eddie or Josh to win...that's fine, just play fair, that's all I ask. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:12 am  i can't believe a single comment last night generated a barrage of reactions. shouldnt anyone base their decision to what transpired over the 3 months? i think it's rather shallow that people be judging the hg from one statement which is not even a strong statement, just being honest and all. but then again, im 100% sure it ain't gonna be a minority winning the big pot. especially an asian like curtis, he just doesnt have the appeal of an all american fans look for. |
Zelgar | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:33 am  I personally don't think that Curtis choked during the RR conversation, but I definitely think he stunned many with his response. Everyone probably expected him to say either Eddie or Josh as it is considered polite and humble to say someone else deserves the grand prize; but as it has been mentioned above, he's never been too close to them and know that both of them nominated him almost the entire time he's been in the house. I also wonder (as I mention in another feed) if it was possible that maybe Eddie and Josh may have heard the question BB gave to Curtis in the RR since they didn't make them move into the DR as they required when they had the live nominations. That would of allowed them a little bit of time to think of an answer before they went in. |
Nishy | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:46 am  Stealth, I'm waiting for the link you promised - you know, the one that says Curtis makes $300K per year. Bali is dead on. Curtis said he COULD POTENTIALLY make $500K over three years (and I assume he meant if he chucked government work and went into private practice). Josh turned that statement into "Curtis WILL make $300K per year". Now you've turned that misstatement into "Curtis MAKES $300K per year". There is a difference between expressing one's opinion, which I encourage, and supporting that opinion with incorrect facts, which is wrong. BTW, I don't think you are lying. You are just mistaken. |
Nishy | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:51 am  Back to the main topic... I have no problem with what Curtis said. As posted above, he didn't even say he deserved the dough. He said he wanted to win (who honestly wouldn't) but he would be happy if either one of the others won, and it was really up to the public to decide. I wouldn't have even had a problem if he'd said he deserved to win and gave the reasons he gave in that other challenge. But he didn't say that. I think Eddie "choked", if anyone did, by changing his strategy of being, in his words, brutally honest, at the last minute. Where was the "real" Eddie who would "piss on any HG to support his family", who made a point of saying he was in it for the grand prize, etc. Frankly, I don't think Eddie lied in the RR. Rather, his earlier "tough competitor" comments were bluster. |
Nishy | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:57 am  One final thought. Someone made a snide remark about Curtis not being too broken up about Jamie leaving. I think a couple things ought to be kept in mind. First, it was not unexpected - they all thought it would be her (unlike with Brit). Second, and most important, he had just won $50K. All three guys were congratulating themselves (and to her credit, Jamie was congratulating them too). In their minds, the three guys had just won the game (I think Eddie said something like that when they were standing on the fence) and all that's left is to see how much they each won. So Curtis must've had mixed emotions when Jamie left. And any sadness he'd have for her wouldn't be because he would miss her (there are only two days left), but, rather, becasue he would be sorry she wouldn't get any cash. |
Zlfd | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:37 am  I wasn't going to vote as I could not decide between Eddie or Josh. Howver I have decided to give Eddie a vote and Josh a vote keeping Curtis as my number 3 choice. He already got to go to the emey's and won the TV so he did well. I really think Josh or Eddie deserve to win. |
Twiggyish | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:46 am  I agree with Curtis giving an honest answer. It is obvious they all want to win. Why would they be in there so long if winning wasn't the goal? |
Kitkat | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:48 am  I am still voting for Curtis. He was truthful in the RR. Do you really think Eddie wants Josh to win? Curtis has been ostracised by the guys the whole time he has been there. he has never been accepted. Are they jealous of him? Eddie is rude and obnoxious, but let Curtis do anything "Eddie-like" and you all jump on him. I am afraid tho' that this might lose Curtis the big money. Curtis fans vote often! ! |
Kitkat | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:51 am  Zelgar, I had the same thought. Eddie and Josh seemed already prepared with their answers VOTE CURTIS |
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