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Treestud

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 09:51 am Click here to edit this post

It seems like females can do nothing right in that house ... since 99-percent of them have already gotten the boot. So far,

Jordan: Troublemaker, flirt, exhibitionist = REJECTED!

Karen: Domesticated, motherly, psychotic = REJECTED!

Brittany: Silly, flakey, phony, "virgin" =
REJECTED!

Cassandra: Smart, moral, peacemaker, reserved = REJECTED!

JAMIE: Fairly intelligent, celibate, vain beauty queen ... MOST LIKELY REJECTED AND HATED BY MOST FEMALE VIEWERS!

So what's a woman to do? Like George said, a house needs women. I love women. But many viewers seem to want them banished from televison. So what characteristics would make one an ideal female houseguest?

I'd really like to know since the men have been allowed to be RUDE, OBNOXIOUS, MALE SLUTS, EFFEMINATE, STUPID, CRAZY, GREEDY, CONCEITED -- and yet allowed to stay till the very end.

Donnalea

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:00 am Click here to edit this post

Colleen = not afraid to state her opinion, intelligent, funny, easy going, not overly dramatic (Brit), not vain (Jamie), doesn't gossip (Karen), isn't afraid to let her hair down and play around (Cass), doesn't try to cause problems between HG's (Jean).

Prince

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:03 am Click here to edit this post

I would also put Jenna and Gretchen up there too as some ideal female HGs.

Ocean_Islands

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:04 am Click here to edit this post

According to the hate postings here, it must be:

Never wear makeup.

Wear only burlap that covers the whole body.

If someone asks you to nominate them, don't do it.

If you're intelligent, don't show it, speak about it, refer to it, or intimate it.

If you're stupid, just keep cooking.

Always ask to see your mother first, never anybody else.

Do not be sexual in any way, shape or form.

Be ugly, misfit and never achieve anything.

Then you might get some approval around here!

Kavman

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:09 am Click here to edit this post

I agree
Love Colleen, Jenna, Brit is cool too but can get real annoying sometimes
They are all beautiful outside and INSIDE

Treestud

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:13 am Click here to edit this post

I agree about Colleen. I think Gretchen is also cool. But wouldn't Susan also be fun to stir things up? She probably would be booted out by the public though.

As for Jenna, I think the BB format would really expose her talkative nature that the castaways often complained about. I think she'd probably wear thin.

Mjji

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:21 am Click here to edit this post

Wow, some of Jamie's fans are only focusing on the "negatives" that they don't like reading about. Wouldn't it be better if you didn't encourage it and instead drive home the good points? Some people don't like the Jamie bashing but yet they seem to prompt and challenge it, thus encouraging it. Not just in this thread but in many others as well.

Mbliving

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:36 am Click here to edit this post

As a woman, I would have loved to see a female winner. I think there was some bad casting here.
I also agree that a Gretchen, Kelly, Colleen or Jenna would have done well.

Karen and Jordan both came into the show with major unresolved issues. Bad casting.

I liked Brit but her neediness was annoying to many viewers and houseguests.

Jamie came onto the show for exposure only and is too concerned about editing. This show is suppose to deal with real issues and feelings so again bad casting.

That leaves Cass. I liked her but then again she said she had to be careful of editing because of her career.

I think its a shame that we probably won't have a female in the top three. But I think casting is to blame.

Twiggyish

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:51 am Click here to edit this post

I wanted Cassandra to win. She wasn't exciting enough for people!!

Personally, my wanting someone other than Jamie to win, has nothing to do with her as a female. My complaint is with her in general.

It is possible as women, we see through Jamie's acts.

Nance

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Gretchen would be kewl, Colleen,Jenna, and Kelly of course I would of liked Cass in the finale 3 but that is no longer an option.
I don't hate Jamie I just find she lacks Passion or commitment to anything but herself and the cameras.
I like the Passion Curtis has about things in general,in life as well as Eddie. Cheers may the best hgs win !

Puttergirl

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:05 pm Click here to edit this post

Amen, Twiggish!!!!

Watchers

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:06 pm Click here to edit this post

Women have a much narrower range of acceptable behavior, so unfortunately, it will always be hard for them to win. At least it isn't Iran where they can't be seen in public, so look at the glass as half full.

Kady99

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:21 pm Click here to edit this post

Why does everyone keep refering to the women on Survivior?? We did not see those ladies 24/7. We saw an edited television show 1 hour each week. I can only imagine what would be said about those ladies if we were able to watch them day in and day out. Now I personally would like to see women like the BB Angels in the house. That would be fun!!! How about it Angels?? Sound good to you??

2dweyes

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:25 pm Click here to edit this post

There are millions of girls that might not be "perfect" but would still be "ideal" for BB. Basically, anyone who is real, open, fun to watch, sense of humor, natural beauty of course is a plus. Jamie is a cliche of herself. She is the stereotypical beauty queen who tries to play both sides of the fence and ends up not standing for anything. My sister, her friends, my friends, ex girlfriends, hell my mom would be more interesting to watch then Jamie. I don't disslike Jamie at all but she is a complete bore. Either that or she is a complete phoney and has been for 3 months. I don't know which is worse.

Kiari

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:31 pm Click here to edit this post

Meg Ryan

Treestud

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:34 pm Click here to edit this post

Don't you all see what you're doing. We're actually listing standards of what an ideal female houseguest would be. As if there is such a thing. This is my point. we don't do the same thing for men. They can be whoever they wanty to be. I think even Mega would have stayed longer if differing political and racial viewpoints by the audience didn't get in the way.

Mee

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:34 pm Click here to edit this post

LOL Watchers!

I say, Jordan. I really liked her.

Fifi

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Elaine Benis (sp?) from Seinfeld.

I'd like to see her do her famouse "Get Out!" shoves on any of the guys (especially Eddie). Seeing the guys get knocked down by her would be hilarious!

Solos

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:37 pm Click here to edit this post

Anybody BUT jME ! Final answer :)

Watchers

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:41 pm Click here to edit this post

<<Anybody BUT jME!>>

Or Karen, Jordan, Brit, Cass huh?

Fifi

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:51 pm Click here to edit this post

How bout if we put the female characters from Friends on the show?

It would be pretty fun watching Rachel, Monica and Phoebe interacting with Josh, Curtis and Eddie.

Monica: Eddie you need to scrub those pans in a circular motion.

Eddie: F*** you! I'm doing the b*tch work here.

Phoebe: Whoa! Look at that smelly dog, Pugita. Need to write a song about her.

"Smelly dog. Smelly dog."

Rachel: Curtis...you believe me right? Ross said we were on a break but I know I'm right.

Curtis: Well, from a legal standpoint, you two *were* on a break. I'd have to side with Ross here.

Josh: (to himself) How am I going to bed both Rachel and Monica ????

Curtandeddie

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Sandra Bullock and Colleen from Survivor

John

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 01:59 pm Click here to edit this post

Jordan's good looks, Karen's motherly attitude, Brit's spunk, Cassandra's sense, and Jamie's kindness and body. That's the perfect BB woman.

Lancecrossfire

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 02:51 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm not sure there is a "perfect BB woman". Since everyone has different ideas of what they would like to see in a HG (without regard to gender), I find it hard to believe anyone would be considered perfect. If it's that important to you to make this about a woman (or a man) then so be it. (I know if I were to write that I wanted to the winner to be a man, I'd be blasted for being sexist). Anyway, just place your favorite gender where I say perosn or someone, or HG.

Instead of a person's name, I've approached this from the aspect of what the game is all about. I did this because different games require different traits to do well. (let's see a prfessional footbal player do well in gymnatsics, for instance)

So, what were the producers of BB looking for, and what might we be looking for? (some traits could be the same, some could be different)

At this point, some might be obvious (no bumps on a log wanted by BB), some more in the gray area. I think BB wants someone to be themselves--not hold back. So, if you have a job where the priority for you as a HG is to "do and say just the right thing" at all cost, this game probably isn't for you.

They want someone who is willing to interact with the other HGs on a regular basis. That probably doesn't mean all the time--just not go off by yourself and build a wall between you and the other HGs.

The probably want someone with a decent amount of charisma. After all, it is TV. They would want someone who will be decent toward the other HGs. That doesn't mean no conflict. It probably means something along the line of don't screw with people as your major source of dealing with them.

They probably want someone who genuinely likes and cares about people. They probably want someone who has had an interesting experince in their life.

They probably want someone who knows it's a game, will follow the rules, and who will play it like a game.

They probably want someone who wants to have some fun in a positive way while playing the game.

They wold want someone who will contribute to doing the chores in the house, as doing chores is a way to become a more intergrated HG.

Now, what do we want for the perfect man/woman/HG?? That one is harder to answer, because I've seen everything from far right to far left (and anything in between). In the end though, I think (just MHO) that if a person was all the things above, they would probably do fairly well in the eyes of post of us.

I guess to get that, you'd have to take the most positive traits of all the HGs and all the Survivor cast. I think a lot of people would like that in a woman. (don't want to get OT of the thread)

Kathyb

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 07:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Lancecrossfire, sounds very much like Brittany
if I'm not mistaken, except for doing chores.
But she had green funny hair, didn't she? Kick her ass out. A woman needs to be more conventionally attractive, I guess. I'd like to know why there are such specific, detailed requirements for an acceptable woman hg, while several men of very different types are ok. Can
anyone explain this phenomenon?