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The ClubHouse: Big Brother 2000: General - Archives: Questions, questions and more questions: Eddie's Desire to "Clothesline" Jamie--Unacceptable?: Archive through September 21, 2000

Katie

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:36 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddielover
Britt would go around and say he had bruised her. Now I don't have a zoom on my viewer so I couldn't get a close up to see if she did, but I took her word for it. Since I couldn't see it for myself, I have no other choice. She also talked with Karen about it too. Once again I only have her word for it since I couldn't see her body well enough to know. I have seen people who are just playing around and still one of more of them ended up bruised. It didn't mean the other meant to but it does happen. Some people are more easily bruised. From what Britt was saying, I got the impression she was one of them.

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:37 pm Click here to edit this post

And your metaphor that Jamie "is faker than a pair of boobs on a stripper" seems inappropriate given Jordan's natural resources. :)

Deeya

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post

Eddieluver... you aren't the only one to defend him... but I admit I wondered where you were... this thread got long in a hurry without your comments... I figured you would jump in somewhere soon...

Zappre... I think if Eddie had said this to Curtis.. Curtis would have come back with one of his infamous one-liners... Josh would have probably gotten into a wrestling match with him... and Jaime, from what I could tell, simply tried to understand him.. I give her a lot of credit actually... she still doesn't have a clue about living with guys... but she, at least, seems to be trying to figure them out.. and how to fit in with them... which is evident by the way she joined in the fun last night...

Russ.. no one ever said Eddie was a polished gem... but he is real... I have to admit I would rather he be genuine than to have him stifle his exuberance just because he is on TV... look at the complaints on this board about houseguests that have kept themselves so contained we don't really know what they are like.

Gubblebum

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:44 pm Click here to edit this post

aarrgghh...
if this thread could be anymore pc i'll clothsline myself!!!
he wanted to bug her!!! it worked
yes he's an idiot, but for petes sake...

Franny1

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:49 pm Click here to edit this post

WHAT JAMIE WANTS IS TO HAVE EVERYONE THINK EDDIE IS A BAD GUY SO CURTIS AND JOSH CAN COME TO HER RESCUE..SHE IS THE WORST ACTRESS. GUYS PLAY THIS WAY AND SHE KNOWS IT. SHE IS ACTING PEOPLE SO SHE WON'T GET NOMINATED AND THEY WILL ALL NOMINATE THAT BIG BAD EDDIE. HE SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES RIGHT THROUGH HER AND SHE CAN'T STAND IT.

Zappre

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Deeya: Fair enough. I actually suspect Curtis would have reacted very much like Cassandra did during the infamous pot caper.

Gubblebum: Do you get paid everytime you mention the term p.c.? Do you even know what political correctness is? And I don't mean the Angry White Male definition, but the actual one.

Moderator

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Franny1: please turn off the caps lock!!


(b)

Deeya

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever... for me at least.. it isn't that you disagree with me that I took offense to... as I stated .. you have a right to disagree.. just as anyone does..

My problem with your post to me was your cooment that my "judgment was highly questionable and not to be trusted.." That's sort of a blanket statement for you to make without knowing a lot more about me... and my judgment/ideas/opinions..

Of course having read the boards for weeks before I ever posted.. I knew this was typical for you... attack the person you disagree with rather than attacking their point of view...there's a big difference in the two... But that's just my point of view... take it or leave it.. your choice...

Nagster

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:53 pm Click here to edit this post

Being a mother and grandmother, my immediate thought when observing Eddie and his "I'd like to clothesline you" routine was: What is his poor mother thinking right now? Does she, as a woman, in addition to being a mother, think it was okay for her son to act in this childish manner?

IMO she was just as upset as some of the above posters and was horrified to have her son behave in this manner. I know I would still be cringing. You see, mothers, at least a good many of us, feel the actions of our children are a reflection upon us even when they are supposedly grown men.

Whatever

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Zappre- Thanks for your kind thoughts (I think).

Maybe someday you will acquire the courage or ability to stand up for your own original thoughts and beliefs, rather than sit on the sidelines making pro and con remarks in reaction to others expressing themselves.

Ladykat

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Here is my two cents ... I like Eddie, but I'm not going to try to defend Eddie on this one. What he did was way out of line. Whether he was playing or not ! The way Jamie handle it, I mean by giving him a poem, and a kiss later on, was just her way of turning a negative into a positive.

What's that saying ... kill them with kindness. But like someone said at this point in the game to do this, knowing the public will be voting soon is just plain dumb on his part. Eddie gets a D for dumb move !

Jamie is not Brittany, or his sister, or Monica. And people who don't like Eddie already, will dislike him even more after seeing what he did.

Next banner ... Eddie clothesline move was DUMB ! I agree with Josh and Curtis ... Eddie needs to hurry up, and go break several seals ! :)

JMO

Deeya

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Zappre... kudos for being able to disagree without it becoming personal... a nice example you set there...

Katie

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 10:59 pm Click here to edit this post

Ok I have held this in as long as I can and I can't anymore. Eddie is real? Real what???????
I married a man like Eddie a few years ago and I made excuses for his behavior. "He was just young. His parents never taught him any better but he would learn." So on and so forth. I told myself that he would get better. He would grow out of it. After we got married it got worse and worse. Before long he was standing in my face and if I didn't step back he would give me a little push back. The little push became a big push until I was pushed across the room into the next wall. He laughed and said he was just playing. It was my fault because I was clumsy. I started to just stay away from him and he would start to come after me. For every step I took back he would take one forward. One time, after taking several backward, I took a step backward and fell down a very long flight of stairs on to a concrete floor. He laughed and said he was just playing.
Eddie is real??? Yes he is really angry. He is angry with the whole world. He is just doing a good job of covering it by pretending he isn't. It comes out in the jokes, language and treatment of others.

Gubblebum

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:00 pm Click here to edit this post

political correctness=
anything that has an edge or not from mr rogers neighborhood is then portrayed as sexist, racist, misogynist (sp), hateful etc

where has everyones sense of humor and sense of irony gone ( i am female and i wasn't upset- heck, my daughters kick back on the soccer field)

and yes i do get paid- so there

Franny1

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:01 pm Click here to edit this post

I am a good mother and have raised my boys right, but they do act up. I think this was taken way out of proportion and it's being done by people who want to sway your vote. Jamie was not harmed, and she annoys as well. There is a saying and she needs to remember it for future reference "If you can't run with the big dogs, stay on the porch." She needs to give as good as Eddie sends and she will gain his respect. Right now he views her as a phony.

Zappre

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:02 pm Click here to edit this post

OK, Whatever. If taking a shot at me is what you need to do to feel better about yourself, that's fine with me. I hope it works for you. Anything I can do to help.

Trish

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:03 pm Click here to edit this post

From the dictionary:

JOKE [2] (verb) joked; jok*ing

verb intransitive

First appeared 1670

: to make jokes : JEST

verb intransitive

: to make the object of a joke : KID


Both people don't have to be laughing for it to be a joke. Of course it would have been a much better JOKE if the other person involved had a sense of humor.

Katie

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:05 pm Click here to edit this post

It would have been a joke if anyone else was laughing but Eddie was the only one who was laughing.

Eddieluver

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:07 pm Click here to edit this post

Well, why don't we just burn Eddie at the stake. Obviously, he is now the next to be banished in your minds. He is already out the door or you want to push him out. Jamie will be the next to go if she is up no matter what. Remember, she is America's most hated House Guest at this point. Even her own state has a hate poll on the girl. Doesn't that seem a bit strange to you? The girl doesn't want to see truth much less tell it. Jamie is fake. There's no way around that statement. She doesn't even know who she is and quite frankly the ONLY one playing the game STILL at this point is Eddie. I don't know if he will win it all but my support is always with him. Just to let you know in the beginning I supported BOTH George and Eddie to win. I didn't know Curt yet but right off the bat I knew there was something about Jamie that wasn't kosher.


Eddie wanted Britt back in the house. If he was so cruel and cold would he have wanted her back? NO! Eddie cares about the people he chooses to care about and that's that. If you want to call him cold then fine but don't insult him with these crazy accusations about him beating women. You people truly need to smell the freshly brewed coffee on this one.

Well, I have NEVER heard her say that regarding the bruises and I want someone (UNBIASED) to show me Britt saying that. Look, no offense but until I see it I won't take anyone's word for it. Besides, if Britt was so upset with Eddie would she have said she wanted him to win? No, I don't think that is the case. People do play around a lot when their close. Damn you people make him sound like a wife beater. Give me a break. He's immature not someone that should be on a America's Most Wanted picture. Eddie probably doesn't realize his own strength either.


Deeya: I had classes this evening in fact almost every evening I do so the board is going to the wayside lately. I'm here for a bit and then bed. I've stayed up the past three nights doing papers. *yawns* It sucks because I miss getting on here. :(

'he is real'


You know I think that truly sums it all up for me. Josh doesn't know who he is but truly thinks that once he gets this money he won't be corrupted. Oh, this boy is so unaware of what a little power can do. I hope he doesn't win and that he keeps these values because not many still have them. Curtis I truly and absolutely adore and have from the beginning but he's not my fave Eddie is. Eddie wants to play it like a game. It IS a game remember? Everyone in the beginning was oh Jamie's playing the game and now because her jig is up due to all the bad banners she's playing the sweet, innocent heroine. ARGH! I don't hate this girl but I really dislike her in this house. I never seen anyone so blind to reality. It's almost like she doesn't even realize except in her deep layer of subconscious that she isn't America's sweetheart. Oh well.


P.S. Everyone I'm sorry if there are typos but I truly am about to konk out from pure exhaustion of work and school. :) Oh, and no hard feelings. I don't care who likes who but I do like to debate about it. Okay I'm leaving and don't bash him too hard because I'll be back probably tomorrow at work. Man, I love my job!

Whatever

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie- exactly right.


Dr. Drew Pinsky from the Big Brother show has had a radio program, Loveline, for the past 14 years, on MTV also for a few years.

The topic is discussed with regularity. Everyone should check Loveline out.

Dr. Drew and the discussion on Loveline helps prevent situations such as yours from ever occuring, and offers help when they are.

Sorry to hear about your past troubles. Others have also mentioned their involvement with domestic violence. Thanks for sharing yours and I hope some of the unenlightened posters or readers of this thread learn something worthwhile.

Azlen

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:09 pm Click here to edit this post

The Eddie lovers vs Eddie haters debate is already getting as tired as the Republicans vs the Democrats.

Toomuch25

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Scanning all the posts in this thread. I saw a lot of boys will be boys comments and what not. However I missed anyone saying it is the two little kids on the playground hitting each other because they like each other. Eddie has accepted Jamie as a sister and if you remember the first episode it showed Eddie and his brother wrestling and rough housing (in a pool if I rememer correctly.) A way of showing love.

I for one am an only child and notice this thing all the time with my friends and their brothers and sisters. Rock on Eddie.

And Eddie it is ok to cry.

Zappre

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:12 pm Click here to edit this post

Well, Gubblebum, if that's what you think p.c. is, no wonder you feel the way you do. It's almost as if you're over-sensitive to over-sensitivity. Your definition discounts the main tenet of p.c....taking others' feelings into account, especially when you have never walked in their shoes. I hope you don't ridicule the concept of "consideration for others", but, you probably will.

Eddieluver

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:13 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie: One more thing before I go and that is that you sound upset about a past relationship. Here's a piece of advice and that is not to judge solely on what you see of Eddie on the show. He doesn't give you all of himself because he saves that for his family and friends in the real world. People don't call him poohbear because he's a total jerk 24/7. Eddie has a deeper layer but only Geo and Britt could even get to the beginning of that surface. I don't think you can compare Eddie to your past relationship and also I think that's unfair and you are already biased when watching him.

Oh, and whoever said you would cringe because of his actions tonight. I also didn't agree with them but I know he meant no harm. He is compulsive in this house and doesn't think before he speaks. I'm sure Mama Denise will give him a good talk when he gets outta there. She knows her boy though and he's a good kid you just gotta look a little deeper than the surface!

Okay I'm going. Night all or should I say morning? Peace. :)

Franny1

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:13 pm Click here to edit this post

If you look at the list of discussion topics, the eddie haters are out in force. They are trying to do the same thing to you that George did to the hgs. They are making up wild untrue stories so you will follow them and vote eddie out. Don't listen to the babble, it's not true.