What exactly is your ideal female houseguest?
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What exactly is your ideal female houseguest?
Lancecrossfire | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:46 pm  Wow, I hope that question was not directed at me--since I did provide "specifc detailed requirements". Note that I said it was HMO that this would be a "perfect HG" WITHOUT regard to gender. Frankly I don't get hung up on this---I would be rooting for a female Eddie just like I'm rooting for the mail version. I'd also want a male Jamie out to the same degree I want the female version out. As far as hair color, George or Brit provided no problem for me when it came to hair color. |
Zelda | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 10:51 pm  Fifi ...LOL first Seinfeld then Friends ... that was great! |
Kathyb | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:18 am  There is not a shred of doubt in my mind that a female Eddie would have been gone the first week, probably even before Will. People would have been outraged. Since there's evidently going to be a BB2 (NYTimes), I hope they will choose a female just like Eddie so we can see how many people defend her for being "real". Although on second thought, they would probably find a different reason to rag on her so as not to appear hypocritical - like maybe she doesn't wear make-up and looks like a hag. |
Notbored | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:32 am  There is no perfect houseguest. It doesn't matter who CBS/Endemol casts, there will be just as much controversy as there has been this time. What I have learned from both Survivor and this show is that what America wants is for the person who cares about no one to win. I base this on Richard's statement that he didn't care about anyone there and didn't want to get to know them except to know how he could use them to win the game and on Eddie's statement that he will "pi**" on anyone to win. I think it is a sad commentary or our society. I guess I must be with a minority. JMO |
Nishy | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:33 am  KathyB - I think you have a point. Survivor had something close to a female Eddie, and, had it been up to viewers, she would've been voted out well before the final show. |
Zlfd | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:46 am  Cassandra would have been in the final 3 if she would have been a bit more open and carefree. I really liked her. |
Syrabrian | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:11 am  My God, could you imagine Jenna and Brit in the same house? Nobody else would be able to get a word in edgewise. My vote goes for Anna Kournikova, now that would be entertainment! |
Gottaluvit | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 10:22 am  as a woman i believe jamie was the perfect female hg. the producers just had to turn her into someone that was hated. jamie is my fave, but i am not upset she is being banished wed. i think she probably believed she was going last wed. i have liked all the hgs, but i guess i hope curtis wins. good luck, jamie!!! oh, by the way, life is so much more fulfilling when one is not a jealous female. gottaluvit |
Is93267 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:01 pm  women suck women hate women and men dont really want women to win so basically, the big brother house should just have male contestants..It'd be kewl a bunch of men sitting around farting and cursing all day.... |
Kavman | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:11 pm  Gottaluvit "the producers just had to turn her into someone that was hated" That is just ridiculous We watch the live feeds! There's no editing! So letme know how the producers turned her into someone that was hated? LOL |
Deni_San | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:04 pm  Cassandra. I am still sad she didn't win it all. |
Faerygdds | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:07 pm  OK... I've read all your posts. excellent points in all of them. What it boils down to is this... This is a societal problem! Women are viewed much more critically than men. We see this in society in general everyday. No matter how far the feminist movement has come what it boils down to is this... Women will always be the ones having the babies... therefore they will be the most heavily scrutinized by society as they are "in charge" of instilling the morals and values into the children... OUR future" And no matter how far the feminist movement goes... this is a fact that women cannot change. I'll put it this way... I pray for the days of the glass ceilings to be over... I wait for the day we have a female President.... and I hope for the day a woman wins in ANY of the BB houses! May sound like I'm a pessimist, but I think of myself as a realist... My 2 cents... |
Katie | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:09 pm  I would take a cross of the class and wisdom of Cassandra, determination of Jamie and the free spirit of Britt. |
Lancecrossfire | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:36 pm  Kathyb, I hope they do choose a female version of Eddie. I'd like to find out how well she is. received as well (since I would be rooting for her) Not wearing make up and physical looks have nothing to do with it, IMHO. Nishy, If by close to female Edde you meant Susan, I was fan of hers with a small problem, then a big problem at the end (although she was out when the big one happened). I was frustrated that she only had negative things to say (b!tched about everyone all the time), although had nothing positive to say about anyone except herself. That could have been the editing, since it was on just once a week with no live feeds. I thought she was fairly straight up (except lying about the UHA), and a hard worker. I'm going to wait and see what Katie has to say about her poll on another thread. For the what it's worth department, just be aware that not all of us would have a double standadr about a HG based on gender!! |
Gottaluvit | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 01:45 pm  kavman how rude to say i am ridiculous. i have watched everything available to me. so how many times did a feed change in mid sentence in a conversation. how many times did i see chicken coups. i have something i would like to call you, but i am not so rude. take a chill pill |
Kathyb | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:43 pm  I don't think people have any idea that they have a double standard. Of course everyone thinks that they're being fair and equal. Reading these boards for a couple of weeks will clearly show that the women have been scrutinized and criticized by the majority of the posters (both men AND women) far more than the men. Jamie, in particular. Somehow she managed to slide through banishments or she'd have been gone along with the rest of the women, who all went one after the other right after Will. Brittany was too loud and needy; Cassandra was too quiet and boring; Karen talked about her marital problems; Jamie is fake and doesn't talk about problems.What are the odds that the 5 women were all crappy and the guys were mostly ok? The few posters who have the nerve to criticize Eddie's boorish, anti-social behavior immediately get jumped on by the majority. And everyone thinks they are being totally fair. Maintain the illusion, folks. |
Rasputin | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:40 pm  Okay, I'll make it easy for all of you -- how about we get some females in BB2 who are brave, fun, adventurous, and only semi-crazy... BB Angels!! I'm sure Zelda, Jombie and I would make fine houseguests (with the conflict to add interest, of course--we wouldn't be boring). Most importantly, we're all just normal, real people (well, this is debatable...) No, really I think BB went wrong when they were looking for easily marketable people to put on their show. They kind of lost track of the reality which is the best part of this kind of reality tv by picking many stereotypes in their female guests (arguably more than they picked stereotypical male guests). For the females, they had the ex-stripper, the mature career woman, the unhappy housewife, the virgin, and the beauty queen. What about the waitress? What about the part-time administrative assistant? What about the mother who works full time and lives with her mother who watches her two kids and who microwaves fish sticks for dinner every Tuesday night? I loved our female houseguests, but if I had a choice I'd rather see real people. |
Iwatchtoo | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:06 am  Well said, Rasputin. Real people rule! How about an obese woman who is confident, sincere, caring, outgoing, witty, moral, beautiful and (gasp!) sexy? The world is filled with them, but how many do you see on television? They're, apparantly, not very marketable. Unless, of course, they're interested in becoming talk show hosts. Or, how about an older woman (50+) with all of those qualities? On the flip side, how about a homely young girl who has confidence in herself, despite her unattractiveness? |
Boogie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:15 am  Iwatchtoo, I'd watch if any three of those women were on!!! Come on, CBS, give us a REAL woman for once... someone who likes FOOD but still has a personality!
I liked Jamie, Brit, Cassandra and Karen as the female reps on this version... yeah, I voted for Jamie and Karen, but I still think they were fine. Any woman they cast is fine by me, because I only like people based on personality. |
Nishy | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:21 am  Lance - I was referring to Sue, and, while she did have some fans, she was easily one of the more unpopular castaways. If the public got to vote she would have been out fairly early on. Maybe even second. |
Katnphx | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 08:24 am  Ideal female houseguest? Me, of course! |
Jombie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:24 pm  It's pretty funny, I for one would not be able to hang in the house for very long... I would use all of Jamie's lipgloss to blur the camera lenses, and constantly think of ways to get the f-n camera off of me...hair dye, towels, you name it...and then I'd swear worse than Eddie at BB when they told me to fix it, wash it, clean it... I'm Italian and kind of a hothead... Iwatch: I love the description above...it's kinda how I view myself, except I usually say 'round'... I personally would like to see someone like Daisy Fuentes or Jenny McCarthy...beautiful women who aren't afraid to be themselves and speak up... |
Lancecrossfire | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 11:53 pm  Nishy--it's possible you are right about how fast she would have been voted off. I for one woudn't have voted ger off that quickly. If she would have been a bit positive to go along with the negative she had for everyone, I think she would have done better with us as voters. She seems to be one of those that holds everyone to the same rules as she does for herself. That can sometimes hurt you with a crowd as well. I think it's ok to expect as much from someone--just not as much AND in the same way. All in all, she wasn't the worst for playing the game! I could see her and Eddie in wrestling matches with beer bets. The house might not survive after 3 months, although I think she'd do a god job of showing Eddie a few things about his approach to life and other people. |
Smrtass | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:11 am  Like some of the previous posters, I think Colleen and Gretchen would've made ideal House Guests. Jenna and Kelly would've been interesting, but Sue and Rich would've been out on their asses. (Oh yeah, Rich is a guy.) ;-) I liked Brit as a House Guest and would've liked to have seen how she'd have handled the last few weeks with fewer and fewer people. |
Lancecrossfire | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:14 am  Smrtass--good thought about Brit and how she would be with 5 or less people. Would we see her best traits come through stronger, or her weaker ones show more?? Guess we shall never know. |
Bigbromo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 04:57 pm  Curtis embodies all of the qualities I'd like to see in a female houseguest...sans that annoying laugh, though. |
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