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Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:30 am Click here to edit this post

I just went through live feeds and no one caught this here. I was watching live feeds when it happened and couldn't belive it came out of Curtis' mouth. It seemed more like an Eddie statement to me. So I went to the Joker site and not only did Curtis say it but Eddie lectured him afterwards. I heard the statement and the lecture but still couldn't believe it. They were listening to Eric Clapton. Eddie asked for the song "Tears in Heaven" Curtis called it the "Throw the dead baby out of the window" song. Eddie replied something to the effect of "what a f***ing role model."

For those that don't know the song was written about Eric Clapton's son who I believe was four when he fell out of the window and died. A lovely song. Not very nice of Curtis. I lost some respect for him because for 3 straight months he's managed to be a pretty classy guy. Just seemed highly unlike him to say something like that. I wanted to hold off posting it until I knew for sure who said it because one of my pet peeves is rumors and misposts. I was surprised no one else caught it.

Big_Al

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:45 am Click here to edit this post

If true, I agree fully that the comment was awful and deserves to have attention called to it.

Did you catch whether Curtis made some apologetic comment immediately after? Did he say something like "Oh my God, I can't believe I said that" or anything to that effect to show that he recognized that he had made a stupid comment and was instantly sorry?

Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:56 am Click here to edit this post

Big Al if he did I didn't hear it. You know how loud Eddie is! LOL He laughed after he said it though. He may have apologized but Eddie went into a cursing monologue so if Curtis said anything I missed it. I'll go look again at the Joker site and see if he apologized. I know people on the AOL boards posted about it so I'll check there too. Like I said, I was pretty surprised and pretty much immediately started bitching about it to my husband! The same husband who is looking forward to BB being over I might add! The poor guy!

Wendy

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:17 am Click here to edit this post

Even though it was an inane thing to say, I would guess he felt comfortable saying it because Eddie has said someone brow-raising things supposedly in jest and Curtis was probably just trying to push the limit as well and thought they'd all think it was fuuny.

(As always) I adore Eddie, but who is he to scold Curtis after Eddie himself made a dead baby joke a few days ago?

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:21 am Click here to edit this post

I was surprised and a little bit shocked to hear Curtis make that thoughtless remark, I didn't even want to go near Live Feeds to record it. Tears In Heaven is the reason I own Eric Clapton Unplugged and I found Curtis' quip very tactless. I have enjoyed Curtis' quick wit very much. However, that "dead baby" comment fell very flat.

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:26 am Click here to edit this post

btw Bigbrofan, I can not believe you would think Eddie would utter a comment so thoughtless towards the loss of a child!

Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:27 am Click here to edit this post

I agree with you Wendy. I don't think it makes Curtis a jerk. I just lost some respect for him. To be fair I also lost respect for Eddie. Sometimes I wonder if being in the house just makes you lose all concept of being on television and what things are appropriate and inappropriate to say. Regardless, it was still not a nice comment and it did really suprise me. I was surprised no one recorded it but am glad I'm not the only one that heard it. I kept trying to rationalize that I must have heard wrong because there's no way Curtis would say that. I didn't see anything posted about Curtis apologizing afterwards. Anyone hear more to the conversation afterwards?

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:34 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis did not apologize or appear to take Eddie's distaste for the comment seriously. He laughed it off and then said nothing.

Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:37 am Click here to edit this post

Noslonna- Sorry if I offended you but I do feel that this comment would be more Eddie's than Curtis' style. In fact, just the other day Eddie told a joke about a dead baby. I'm not going to list my reasons because they don't really matter anyhow. I didn't mean to offend, it was just my opinion.

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:49 am Click here to edit this post

Bigbrofan, you did not offend me but I think you insulted Eddie. I am not his mom or defender but I have watched and listened to him enough to know his deep compassion for children and the painful loss of a loved one. Telling an off color joke is not the same as making fun of a tragedy.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:59 am Click here to edit this post

My god, you people, Eddie can sprew beer and spittle and write the word 'c*nt' in it in regards to another HG, he can make n*gger jokes he can call the African American HG, brutha and sista, disparaging and ridiculing them, he can lie and shoot his big filthy mouth off, he can nap for three frickin' months (in between racial slurs and dead baby jokes), but when Curtis makes an inappropriate comment you're all over him like a cheap suit. I'll be so glad when this crap is finished. This board has really gone beyond decency and turned into a paranoid, finger-pointing, self-righteous, nit-picking coven of cackling crows who must be bored beyond imagination. So much so, that you seem to literally hang on every word that is spoken in the house and wait for something that can be construed as inappropriate, so that you can jump on it like a group of preening vultures and pick it apart with the glee of a two year old opening a Christmas present.

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:10 am Click here to edit this post

Kuh, does that mean you approve of Curtis calling Eric Clapton's moving tribute to the death of his son "the dead baby song?"

Makeitstop

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:18 am Click here to edit this post

Kuh has really gone beyond decency and turned into a paranoid, finger-pointing, self-righteous, nit-picking cackling crow who must be bored beyond imagination. So much so, that he/she seems to literally hang on every word that is written on the board and wait for something that can be construed as inappropriate, so that he/she can jump on it like a preening vulture and pick it apart with the glee of a two year old opening a Christmas present.

I couldn't resist! Flame on, Kuh! Flame on!

Lisat

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:19 am Click here to edit this post

Kuh -"paranoid, finger-pointing, self-righteous, nitpicking coven of cackling crows...LOL! thanks for sharing......it's so nice to communicate with people who respect other viewpoints even when they are different from their own.

Ocean_Islands

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:21 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis's act has broken down, that's all.

You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all the people all the time.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:22 am Click here to edit this post

Noslonna - It was an inappropriate, stupid comment and Curtis has never made a habit of saying such inappropriate things. No big deal.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:23 am Click here to edit this post

Makeitstop - You have the imagination of a tick.

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:24 am Click here to edit this post

Well Makeitstop.. all I can say is, Sue couldn't have said it better. Moral is not to repeat a tick's imagination I guess.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:26 am Click here to edit this post

It has nothing to do with respecting other viewpoints, if you can't see how this crap has gone beyond ridiculousness, that's your problem. It needed to be said, and I feel better for having said it.

Lisat

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post

Kuh - It has everything to do with respecting other viewpoints...and I'm glad you feel better.

Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:28 am Click here to edit this post

Kuh- I don't think by starting this thread I was being hateful. Just expressing my disappointment. There is a definite difference. I've tried very hard to post my opinions without hate so I take offense to your post. While I disagree with what Eddie says often, and Curtis' comment I never said I hated them. I merely said I was disappointed and surprised. Saying "the throw the dead baby out the window song" was insensitive and I pointed it out for discussion. You calling me and other posters nit-picking and cows is actually FAR worse than anything I've posted. Maybe you should take a break if you're so tired of all of this. I admit it gets frustrating but calling myself and other posters in this thread names is not the answer.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:34 am Click here to edit this post

Bigbrofan - I didn't all you cows, I called you crows.

Kuh

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:34 am Click here to edit this post

Bigbrofan - I didn't call you cows, I called you crows.

Noslonna

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:40 am Click here to edit this post

Why are all the crows, cows?

Bigbrofan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:43 am Click here to edit this post

I give up Kuh. What's the difference? You still don't have to call anyone names. The comment was insensitive. I waited until I thought the polls were closed and I was positive I heard what I heard befoer I posted. I tried to discuss the issue and how I felt. I don't see how that deserved a personal attack from you? Have you ever lost a child or had a loved one lose a child? It's a very painful experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone. What Curtis said was rude and uncalled for and I wished to discuss it. So how about we discuss the comment, and not each other? If you want all the hate on the board to stop, just don't contribute. The thread was going fine, and all posts seemed pretty on topic and without venom. That is they were until yours.

Noslonna- You're absolutely correct. I haven't ever heard Eddie make a comment about a personal tragedy such as this one. Thank you for pointing that out. (I just saw your post it was smaller and I guess I didn't notice it sorry!) I didn't think about it from your standpoint, but after you pointed that out I shouldn't have been so quick to say it wouldn't surprise me if Eddie said that. Especially after he himself went through a personal tragedy as a child.