Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:42 pm  I find it very sad that those of you who think that going to college...getting a good job...having a career...having good manners...being a friend...not back stabbing one another...and being a good person would not allow someone to win the big money. I guess that is why our country is on the verge of a socialistic society...everyone in this country thinka that they deserve everything that some work very hard for. Is hard work a crime? What happen to the American dream? For all of you who bash Curtis for being a nice guy than so be it...we'll wave to you while in the line standing to pick up your goverment food alotments and we will see you in the Goverment run hosiptals...for me, I'll make it on my own, thanks! Success is a good thing just remember...when we are all equal we will be living in Russia! |
Really | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:48 pm  So 'how' old are you?? It's a good thing not everyone has such a narrow view as this! |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:50 pm  Old enough and make enough money to pay over 60 percent in taxes and you? |
Ocean_Islands | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:51 pm  No one is bashing Curtis for being a nice guy. I think Curtis is great and he has a fantastic career ahead of him. |
Skwmom | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:51 pm  I have a college education, a professional job and my mother always stressed manners when I was growing up. But I have something else that I think is more important - compassion for my fellow man. I believe Eddie and his family could really use the money. I believe in the saying "there but for the grace of God go I." Your welfare comments are really out of line. |
Curtandeddie | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:53 pm  Ditto Skwmom. And Curtis is not being bashed. The only HGs that have really been bashed lately on this board are George, Jamie and Eddie. |
Watchers | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:54 pm  Well Jade - this country is about as far from a socialistic society as we have ever been. All the tax codes are set up for corporations, corporations pretty much run the country with their donations and lobbying. The wage gap is larger than ever and the American Dream has passed by most everyone. And it becomes attainable by fewer and fewer people each year. All power is with big business. Doesn't sound like socialism. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 07:56 pm  Skworm... I really do not think that they are out of line when almost 40 perecent of our population in the US will be only receiving Social Security to live on is not out of line...it is reality. WHen the system will last till the year of 2030 is that reality or not? Face it...the world is not fair...life is not fair...and we are all responsible for our own lives and futures. If it hurts to think long and hard...than I suggest you think about it and think about it now. |
Bali | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:00 pm  I believe in compassion. I believe in the underdog. I believe in helping the less fortunate. I DO NO believe in rewarding someone who doesn't deserve it...someone who thinks being obnoxious and rude and obscene and someone who spouts obscenity left and right is excusable behavior just because he's had more challenges in his life. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:00 pm  Well if you want National Health Care than we are looking at Socialism! |
Zappre | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:03 pm  No, actually, Jade888, you're looking at a compassionate Liberal democracy. It's called Canada, my home, and a superb place to live. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:05 pm  Zappre: Well if the health care is so good...than why did our friends have to sell their home for his wife to come to the States and have immediate treatment for her breast cancer. Are woman and mothers not deserving of immediate attention? You explain to me? |
Skwmom | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:09 pm  Watchers - I'm a CPA and you told the truth with your statements. Corporate welfare dwarfs private welfare payments in our country. |
Bali | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:09 pm  I ditto Zappre. I'm Canadian and proud to be so. |
Petunia | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:12 pm  Jade, please correct me if I'm wrong, but did you just equate Social Security with Welfare? |
Zappre | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:12 pm  Jade888: My mother just finished her breast cancer treatment without so much as a hiccup in the system, and with a complete recovery and no bills coming. I was born with one leg and that freak occurrence, along with the simultaneous contraction of leukemia by my brother, now dead, didn't put my family in the poor-house, because I live in a country where people believe "there but by the grace of god go I"...it's called community. I suspect if Eddie's family had a choice, they're rather have lived here in Toronto during his illness. I don't begrudge you your opinion, but don't ignorantly trash the place I live just to make a point. I lacks class, and i'm surprised at you. |
Lafatme | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:18 pm  jade when did this become a political board? bali, they all deserve to win. according to the rules they had to survive the banishments, they did. that's enough to DESERVE it. they played the game and got to the end. now we vote who we want the $ to go to. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:21 pm  How bad was the cancer? Could it be that our friend who is a respected physician in Canada did not trust the system...they kept saying she had to wait as she was still young. With Cancer you can not wait a day. Time is of the essence. The Canadian system is good if you are young but if you are very sickly I think I would rather be here in the States with no one dictating where, who and when I receive treatment. Myself...I consider SS not a retiermant plan but for some of us who hope to be able to decline our payments it is like welfare. Our govenment will not be able to care for all of the BOOMERS that are on the verge of retiring...liosten to Bush and GOre with their plans and see what they ahve to say. Addressing Corporate welfare...well I agree but we the people now have very little say over our government. Remeber...the US has many social issues and economic issues to deal with wo I hope you all vote for the canidate who can make a difference to you and your family. Also...When the feds decide they don't like BIll Gates...yesterday was one of the greatest days of the year 2000 for me when a little guy can stop being bullied for his success. Go Bill Gates...maybe he should be our next President. |
Zappre | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:24 pm  Jade888: You said: "How bad was the cancer? Could it be that our friend who is a respected physician in Canada did not trust the system...they kept saying she had to wait as she was still young. With Cancer you can not wait a day. Time is of the essence. The Canadian system is good if you are young but if you are very sickly I think I would rather be here in the States with no one dictating where, who and when I receive treatment." My dear, you simply do not know what you're talking about. Quit while your behind. It's getting embarassing. |
Bkmac | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:26 pm  Jade, this isn't about political idealogy or fiscal conservatism vs. socialism, it's about which HG you like more. You like Curtis best- cool. Vote for him. If Curtis doesn't get the grand prize it won't mean the rest of America has a f---ed up mentality, it will simply mean the rest of America likes him less than one or both of the other houseguests. The HG figured it out months ago, shouldn't we have by now as well? The contest isn't about most deserving, or best behaved, or most needy, or least offensive- the contest is about popularity. Who is best liked. The "why" of it all doesn't matter much at all. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:28 pm  I just get pi**ed off when anyone in our country makes it the government decides they are not entitled to make it...what's up with that. Another thing...we just had our primary election on Saturday and can you believe that less than 40 percent of the folks who registered to vote actually voted...what the heck is happening? The point is life is not fair and why should someone who dedicated their life to having a career not deserve to win the 500K... That is what makes my BLOOD boil! |
Mbliving | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:31 pm  Jade, I don't know why your friend would have to go to the States for medical care. Especially for breast cancer. I have never heard of this. My Aunt just went through it and I know several others. They went from the doctors, to having an x-ray and then to the hospital in no time flat. All are recovered. Canada has a fantastic medicare system. My other Aunt lives in the States and she always says they are insurance poor. |
Whatever | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:31 pm  Jade888: Is egocentrism a common Asian-American trait? I perceive egocentrism in many of your self-centered views and posts, and occasionally in Curtis' condescending remarks. I ask you because in numerous other posts, you tell us your overly-generalized views of Asian-American and Asian culture. Yours is a somewhat shallow perspective, because most culturally aware individuals I know realize that it is fallacy to substitute limited stereotypical notions for more complex truths, regardless of whether or not a culture is as homogeneous as some Asian cultures. Further, many of your posts include personal information about you and your family which have no connection to the topic being discussed or any commonality with anything anyone else has posted. In this regard, it appears to be a form of shallow, overly status-conscious posturing. While I occasionally agree with some things that you post, and I believe Curtis is an admirable houseguest deserving of recognition as such, your tirade is simply unwarranted and out of place. |
Mystery | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:32 pm  Curtis is being bashed every time someone says that Eddie "deserves" to win because he could use the money. Give Eddie the money by all means but there's nothing "deserving" about that. |
Jade888 | Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:38 pm  Mystery... Maybe you are right! Let's give the most deserving person allof the money? And for all you others...I will call Canada and ask why he brought his wife to NYU for treatment? Also..we are waiting for all the R&D from Canada...drugs...new procedures...new advances in equiptment. Our healthcare here is expensive because we are creating all of the technology...face it! What new pharmacuticals have been developed in Canada in the last ten years. |