Archive through September 03, 2000

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Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Thanks Jake for the comments,

And you are right when it comes to this point there is nothing left to say. ;)

Chris

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:27 pm Click here to edit this post

Her capacity for denial is surpassed only by Karen's. And perhaps "femmef8tl".

Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Consider this; it's been 3 weeks since she got the boot and yet we are still talking about her.

Jake

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Keep on pluggin', LEDARNEY! I admire your tenaciousness at the very least! *smiles*

Yes, we are still talking about her, and yes, she and all her followers COULD take that as a compliment and dance to the beat of that different drum. BUT.. not all the talk is GOOD talk. Personally, I would prefer quality talk if folks talked about me, and I'm afraid I don't see much of that in Ms. Jordan's corner of fame.

Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 04:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Someone once said; "Any publicity is Good Publicity". It may not be good, but I will take it. ;)

Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:21 pm Click here to edit this post

I grabed this drom the "Strar Tribune" site where she is answering questions. This is a response and I know it won't change anybodies mind, but I will post it anyways.


Jean Jordan - 06:56pm Aug 17, 2000 CST (#48 of 49)
'Big Brother' house guest
Willow,

again, you need to put yourself in the house and try to project yourself into this situation to even begin to understand. The monologues became just that because people would not engage. Conversations I started would often result in my voicing a thought only to have it die a few seconds later.

I liked the term "narcissistic drama queen" and I must admit I can be that at times. I CAN be very self-centered. But I am open to discussion and learning. By the time the nomination rolled around, there had been a week of creepy silence and fake ass-kissing, and people who had issues with me (even if they were quite small) were in NO WAY about to bring them up - that might jeopardize their position in the house and their safety! So instead of being honest and open, they silently nominated me and then refused to talk about it, claiming that it was "for the best of the group" when I saw it as running to the group for safety and hiding. I saw people in the house as largely afraid, afraid of confronting others and more importantly, afraid of confronting themselves because they didn't know what they might find (Karen, Curtis, Brittany). I blew. Was it the best way to deal? No. You're right. But I was also under enormous stress and I didn't feel heard or understood by anyone - at least heard to the point where I felt like I really had a friend. It drove me crazy that people wouldn't open up - I wanted people to insult me or yell at me...anything! Just something honest. I was so sick of this "I love you" bullshit (like anyone loves each other there) and tip-toeing around each other trying not to offend or look bad. I started going a little crazy and made some not-so-mature decisions and was a little reactionary, but I think I speak for a lot of people by being "real" at least. Life isn't always beautiful...at least in the traditional sense.

Jake

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:36 pm Click here to edit this post

*lol*

LEDARNEY.. I'm sure Gary Hart or Thomas Eagleton and other such will agree wholeheartedly about the publicity comment! Okay, if that's all it takes, then tally me up on your roster and YOU OWE ME! *lol*

As for the reply to WILLOW, there is nothing new in her response. What she never covers is why folks started shutting down on her. There is some validity to the fact the others were certainly not as combative as she was nor interested in some of her topics, but she totally misses her OWN contribution to the shutdown. She doesn't see, and she refuses to look at the fact that she brought about much of what happened to her in that house. And that, in itself, is one of the reasons I stay on this side of the fence. She is only open to discussion and learning within her OWN frame of rules, reference and topic. Conditional open-ness. Ah well.. I'm just glad I don't have to live with her.

Dee

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Ledarney -- when I was at the site, I saw questions, but no answers. How do you get to the replies from Jordan?
Thanks!

Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Hello Dee,

Jordan will be logging on from time to time till the 24th. her responses are posted in between the questions, just as a normal boards is. She answered one of my questions, post one and see if she answers your.

Thier is no set time for her to login, so to catch her while she is posting, could be a gamble.

Ledarney

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 05:57 pm Click here to edit this post

I owe you a big one Jake ;)

Willow

Thursday, August 17, 2000 - 09:25 pm Click here to edit this post

I was pleased that she answered my letter, but I totally agree with Jake about how severe and permanent her blinders are.

She's a good post-writer, though, gotta give her that...

Lafatme

Friday, August 18, 2000 - 12:23 am Click here to edit this post

i just read the minneapolis paper and it has a story about jordan. she has joined a morning radio team there.

Alfredo

Sunday, August 20, 2000 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post

It's interesting that Curtis is one of the ones she mentioned as an "avoider". Not only did he not nominate her either time, but he also took heat (and in part was nominated) for asserting that he considered both the stripper and Will to be friends. Looks like Curtis needs to learn to be more discriminating in who he considers friends.

The only real victim of the Alliance was Curtis -- Will and the stripper were such obvious targets that their nominations required no special agreements. Cassandra was an obvious choice once they were gone, as she had not become really close to the others, and Josh got caught in the web weaved by the stripper.

If anything, the stripper is in more denial than Karen. If you read the live feeds, it is obvious that Karen felt badly about how she treated fellow HG's in the house, and she hasn't trashed them since being banished, or blamed the editing.

I wouldn't go out of my way to do so, but if I could meet either Karen or the stripper, I'd choose Karen.

Ledarney

Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 09:44 pm Click here to edit this post

Just to let you guys know that Jordan was interview on WCCO, a local CBS station in Jordan home town, and I will transcribe it this week end and either sunday night or monday morning I will post it here.


This is just giving you all fair warning.

Ledarney

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 06:02 am Click here to edit this post

Well Here it is, as promissed.

http://broadband.ibsys.com/mediasite/search.asp?mssearch=Jean+Jordan&brand=c4k&x=15&y=12

>> Last night we found out what happened to the "survivor" crew.
>> I got a chance to talk to the exotic dancer who was banished. The credits lay out the big-brother premise. 10 People, no privacy. Three months. $500,000. But jean jordan went home early. The woman with the exotic-dancing past was the second one banished from the big brother show after just three weeks. When you came back and had an opportunity to look through them, were you surprised?
>> My worst fears were they were just going to focus on the stripping aspect, and kind of make me the village •••••, you know, of the set, and i felt that way. It was almost always me crying or me talking about sex.
>> I vb ton honest. My sex life is -- i have to be honest. My sex life is driving me crazy right now.
>> I don't consider myself, like, yes, i'm interested in women, i want to have a torrid love affair with a woman.
>> Reporter: That's not what she's mad about.
>> Would i do what?
>> Like menage a trois.
>> Reporter: She isn't mad about that, either.
>> I could be labeled as loose or slutty or whatever when i'm totally not.
>> Reporter: The sexy wail of the saxa phone and the slow slow-motion close-up of her bare feet.
>> People could view me as a slut and totally not right there, and that's, you know, the sex music and the slow-mo is saying, "but she is!"
>> Reporter: What did you expect when you talked about things like "i find women attractive"?
>> I just thought, well, this will be a factor and it will be a story line but not the only story line.
>> Reporter: She admits she spoke freely, giving producers plenty of titillating tid bids.
>> Everything i said in the scene, i said and i did.
>> Reporter: She says she is not the victim she was portrayed to be, despite her days stripping. She is comfortable with her sexuality.
>> I don't think america is ready for my reality. I am so open about sexuality, and i am an exotic dancer, and i don't think america is really ready to embrace an ex-exotic dancer.
>> Reporter: But thanks to big brother, she says her exotic-dancing days are behind her.
>> Coming out on national television has created [ audio not understandable ] i said i wouldn't go back, and i won't go back.
>> Reporter: Right now she is writing a book about her experiences in the adult entertainment industry.
>> What is jordan doing now?
>> Reporter: She is also working at "the point" as part of the morning drive team.
>> I don't think i would want to do it my whole life, but it's definitely a stepping stone.
>> Reporter: Maybe on the radio she will be able to accomplish what she set out to do on "big brother".
>> There wasn't anything i didn't want to discuss; i just wanted to have good conversation.
>> Reporter: You can catch the "big brother" finale right here on channel 4.

<<End of Transcript>>

Slh

Monday, August 28, 2000 - 08:47 am Click here to edit this post

I thought the latest installment of the interview w/ Paul Romer on the official site was interesting. He mentions both Jordo and Karen facing what went on in the house. In his opinion, Jordo's had the tougher time, has been more in denial. He says he thinks Karen's done just fine. He adds that the producers keep a psychologist available for each HG for months and months after the show ends, recognizing that there may be long term affects to deal with.

Ledarney

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:38 pm Click here to edit this post

Well this real does not fit this thread but I did not want to start a new one.

Being a Jordan Fan I would just like to point out for the record that, Britts' Best moment was with Jordan the night they stayed up talking about Josh.

So for these of you how still have a strong opioin about Jordan I hope the fact that even Britt, who was in the middle of everything, still ranks this as her best moment in the house. If you don't believe me read the transcript of the AOL live chat.

Zelda

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Ledarney... I was pleasantly surprised by Britt's - Jordan comment! I have a feeling they have talked since she has 'gotten out.'

Ledarney

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 05:50 pm Click here to edit this post

When jordan was asked what her best moment was in the house she also said the time her and Britt stayed and talked.

That night was a turning point in both thier relationships.

Lanzee

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 06:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Being a big Jordan fan here. Yeah, I was so glad that Britt did say a positive thing about Jordan! I remembered and saw them on videofeed that they had a great ball stayed up and talked all nite! It was a great thing for them while they were in BB house.

U rock!
Lanzee =o) \lm/

Ledarney

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 06:13 pm Click here to edit this post

Lanzee,

Have you contacted Jordan! I see that she did not get a chance to post any responses to your posts.

Lanzee

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 09:25 pm Click here to edit this post

Ledarney,

First of all, I wanted to thank you for Jordan's WCCO interview transcript. I enjoyed reading it.

No, she didn't give me her response to my posts, yet. I did send my email to her "business" email address if she ever read my posts or not. It looks seemed that she's very busy on those days. Or she must got lots of emails. I really enjoyed reading her posts over there. She's so intelligent, a great thinker and incredible writer. It's a marvelous learning for me to read her bold, awesome and interesting posts there. Do you know when the BB reunion show will be? I believe that she will show up for that reunion. Then we will see her again for the reunion show. YAY! That will be my exciting moment even yours!

U rock, Mike!
Lanzee =o) \lm/

Lanzee

Thursday, August 31, 2000 - 10:41 pm Click here to edit this post

Ledarney!!


I just got an email from her tonight! Whoo! She said that she promised to answer my questions later!

She really ROCKS! Have a happy dance!

U rock!
Lanzee =o) \lm/

Katie

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 01:02 am Click here to edit this post

Is there an email address to write her at?
I was facinated by her while she was on the show and disappointed when she was banished.

Katie

Sunday, September 03, 2000 - 01:09 am Click here to edit this post

I thought and still think that she had valid points. The people were and still are not opening up and really dealing with their feelings. Everyone is playing nice! That is why BB is and has been trying to stir things up. BB has commented several times on them not being forthcoming with their feeling about each other. They have even gone so far as to call a couple of them on it.I think she became more and frustrated and yes she did act out but under the circumstances it would be easy.