Archive through September 27, 2000

The ClubHouse: Big Brother 2000: General - Archives: Weeks gone by: I changed my mind about ____ in the past 48 hours because...: Archive through September 27, 2000

Fenixtx

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 02:20 am Click here to edit this post

I just thought this might be an interesting topic. Maybe the swing voters will change the outcome of this game.

Jay0mck

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:17 am Click here to edit this post

Well, all along I've been thinking of Eddie as winning, hes been honest & direct about wanting to win and why he wants to win. Hes a decent guy with a good heart, but then there's Curtis. Hes come along way from the start of the show. Hes open, honest, very funny, does need to say f**k every sentence, he played the saboteur game great. (someone on another thread said that Curtis should give the tv to Eddie because Eddie really wanted it, ummm, well, maybe Eddie should have tried to at least play the game) Loved the Trinitron Dance. Hes very helpful around the house, can even bake. :) I also don't think the winnings should be based on Need. Thats not what the games about, is it? Who is most needy? I don't think so. blah, blah, blah, I could go on forever. but anyways... I started with Eddie and am ending with Curtis.

Franny1

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:26 am Click here to edit this post

I think Eddie will do fine on his own merits. He admittedly said he did not really try to win this game. I didn't see him as angry that Curtis won and I didn't see Curtis being arrogant in any way. I still want Eddie to win, but only because I like him. I like Curtis too, but Eddie is still my favorite. I don't think Eddie expected Curtis to give him anything. I think they have come to truly like each other and Eddie will be happy for whoever wins as will the rest of them.

Katnphx

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:29 am Click here to edit this post

I was kind of feeling Eddie should win too because of the need/want factor, but I've liked Curtis best from day one. Lately, I've been thinking: If Eddie needs and wants the money so badly, why has he just slept the time away? I don't think the winner should be determined based solely on need, so I'll be voting for Curtis to win the 500k.

Stealth

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:32 am Click here to edit this post

Im voting for Eddie all the way :)

Katnphx

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:41 am Click here to edit this post

Just want to add that I do hope Eddie gets second place. He has said 100k would be enough to move his family to a nicer area and I think Eddie will make a lot of money when he gets out of the house too. He has too many fans who love him to not be a success at whatever he chooses to do once he's outside.

Solos

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 08:57 am Click here to edit this post

I will be voting Eddie all the way .....

Really

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 10:09 am Click here to edit this post

I feel that I cannot or will not vote based on who I think deserves it because I have learned that life does not always give people what they deserve...

Referring to monetary gain...If that was the case then greedy people would be poorer, giving people would be richer.

I am much more able to judge on need rather than 'deserving'. I certainly don't think Eddie deserved to get cancer and have a leg amputated at age 11 and go through life without a limb, but it happened.

Some people who appear to work very hard also sacrifice their moral, ethical, spiritual - values, family, etc to gain money & riches, that doesn't mean they deserve it.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that life does not give people what they deserve...I've seen mean, nasty, cheating liars get ahead in life and I've seen good, giving, honest, hard-working people with very little just because they were not in a powerful position or the efforts were not compensated.

So I have a hard time voting off of who 'deserves' to win. I must say Eddie entertained me more than Curtis. Curtis finally entertained me with the Trinitron Dance. I don't know that I believe entertainment value should really be the criteria either, people are gonna just vote who they ultimately like better, I guess. I do like both Eddie and Curtis. There are some things about each of them I dislike also.

So I think people should vote according to their own heart as they say, who you feel you would like see win 1st, then 2nd and of course 3rd.

Forgottenlore

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 10:22 am Click here to edit this post

Really, I think we should vote on entertainment value! This is a television show!
We all have different senses of humour I am sure, so there should be no argument about WHY I find Eddie entertaining and George, for example, not.
As for the remaining house guests, JOsh has NEVER entertained me, Jamie, well, she tried to, but the only timed I laughed was the love affair on Bob segment. And Curtis has entertained me by watching him win the emmy and figure out the sabateur game. My point is I have always felt that I would vote on entertainment value, because who am I to judge human value or need or the goodness of one's heart? We have all complained about how boring the house guests are, I say reward the ones who made it worth it to sit in front of our computers for 3 months!
note to self: Try not to post before having any coffee.

Rmgreco

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 10:46 am Click here to edit this post

Deserve it? That is silly!!! NObody DESERVES money unless they have toiled long and hard. SO I am not voting based on who deserves it. I am voting on who I would like to see have it. Who it will do the most for. So Eddie is my choice. But I will be happy if he wins 2cnd. I like Curtis alot too. And I think he woule do wise things with the money like he said. So as long as Curtis and Eddie are in he top two I am happy

Rosalind

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 10:46 am Click here to edit this post

I will vote for Curtis to win. In the beginning, I felt he was expendable. Sort of boring. However, he truly is neither. He has been able to let his guard down and treat the HG as he would friends and/or family, so I as a viewer have been able to see and appreciate the man he truly is.

But the main reason I will vote for Curtis to win is the fact that he TRULY never believed he would or could win. Not only did I think he was expendable and boring, so did he. I want him to know that many of us learned his value through his humor, intelligence, kindness, integrity and loyalty.

GO CURTIS!

Deni_San

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 11:17 am Click here to edit this post

If you judged merits by viewing this as a game, Curtis has played the game the best and should win. He has gone through 5 nominations for banishment which went from people not feeling close to him to him being a strategic threat.

If you judge based on contributions to the house, Curtis again should win.

If you are judging on personal qualities, Curtis comes in with the most positives and the least negatives.

If you judge on Entertainment level, Curtis has not hid in the cave for naps, and has infused humor in the place. He has consistantly been a good sport about everything. Its entertaining to see Curtis figure stuff out through deductive reasoning.

If you are judging on the best use of the money then Curtis and Eddie are in a dead heat. Yes, Eddie could really help himself and his family, who do need a reversal of fortune. Curtis is old enough and wise enough to put the money to good use. He had already made a decision to leave private practice for the less lucrative public service. He has the legal skills that extra money could allow him to provide pro-bono services.

Eddie has already said that 100k is plenty money for his needs. For a long time since, I think that 2nd place for Eddie is reasonable, even though it would be a bit much when you consider his contributions, game play, immaturity, and poor judgement.

Curtis should win the 500k by all measures of this show and contest.

Whatever

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 11:24 am Click here to edit this post

Anyone might wish to consider that the winner serves as spokesperson for the show in interviews and media events.

Curtis will be the best of all the houseguests to serve in that role.

Mlady

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 11:35 am Click here to edit this post

Go Eddie!!!

Rod

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Hmmmm..I've long wondered if Josh is beneath the radar for both people who dislike and people who like. In other words, does he have both limited detractors and limited support? People don't call to banish him and won't call to vote him winner. If this is true, it would make him the third place winner.

If one could judge from this thread, it would seem so...all the entries to date are for either Eddie or Curtis. But it is , as yet, a small thread.Any strong feelings for Josh out there?

(I, myself, am a Curtis fan)

Sugarwater

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:26 pm Click here to edit this post

I've changed my mind about 20 times in the past 48 hours. I keep going back and forth mostly between Curtis and Eddie, but I wouldn't really mind much if Josh won. I want Curtis to win because, who at the beginning would have expected to see him in the final 3 and I want to see him through to the grand prize so that we can say, "See, nice guys CAN finish first". I want Eddie to win because he does need the money and has been the only one to be completely honest about the fact that he is there for the money. No whining about how he's there for the experience, the money doesn't really mean that much, blah, blah, blah. He wants that money.
I wouldn't mind Josh winning, because it would add a little chocolate sauce to his vanilla life.

Spright

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 12:32 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't understand the people who say they are voting "on need" or on "who it will do the most for." What was the point of the show, if that's how you vote? You could have decided within ten minutes of the first show who needs it the most. In my opinion that's turning BB into a telethon instead of a contest.

Beachfeet

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 01:15 pm Click here to edit this post

As it stands right now I'm going to vote for the underdog -Josh! Eddie and Curtis were my favs until Saturday's show. Eddie's little commentary on alcoholics and drug addicts, was insensitive and immature. It woke me up to the true essence of Eddie - he's a work in progress and a crude one at that. I've lost all enthusiasm for him winning. He seems to think that loosing a leg or something of that order is the only real handicap a person can face in life.
Curtis is my favorite, along with Josh now and I think it would be interesting to have the least expected, win it. ---Josh
Josh is a true sweetheart that would never think of saying "I'll take the b***h spot to wash the dishes" or say the f* word every other sentence. I think he is misunderstood and very shy about getting close to people. Pugita latched onto Josh first and animals have a way of knowing who has the most open heart.
It's amazing to me now that I was so animate in my support for Eddie. He's an ok guy but judging by his behavior when he drinks, he could well be on his way to becoming one of the people he despises.
If Curtis and Josh could split 1st place , that would be great, but I think the whole experience has given Curtis some real personal confidence that he might not of had before.
Josh lost his Mother before he was completely grown up and I think he feels this loss deeply every moment. He seems lonely for a person that can understand him and be there for him unconditionally.
The right criteria or not for voting---I've changed my mind to Josh.

1. Josh
2. Curtis
3. Eddie

Sugarwater

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 01:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Spright I think you hit the nail right on the head. That's exactly what this show has turned into. It's a pity, but that's the way it goes.

Jay0mck

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 01:34 pm Click here to edit this post

Beachfeet. Although I'm voting for Curtis, I wouldn't mind in the least if Josh won. Your idea of them sharing 1st place would be great. Days ago I would have said GO EDDIE & CURTIS, well now its GO CURTIS & JOSH..

Katnphx

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 01:55 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever wrote: "Anyone might wish to consider that the winner serves as spokesperson for the show in interviews and media events.

Curtis will be the best of all the houseguests to serve in that role."

That's a great point, whatever. I wonder why the BB editors aren't favoring Curtis more than they are.

Somewhere

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 01:59 pm Click here to edit this post

OK, I changed my mind about Jamie in the last 48 hours because I think even with all of her faults and affectations she is well regarded in the house. I find that when it really looks like someone is sure to be banished, I let go of the resentment I felt for them. I was upset with her for voting for Cassandra (my favorite) two rounds ago, but I think she was playing a strategy, though she would be the very last to admit it.

Having said that, she should by no means deserve a first or second place finish.

Josh has been so hard to pin down I would prefer he not win prize money. Sugarwater said it best -- that winning a prize would bring some chocolate sauce to his vanilla life.

Josh seems to be a shoe-in for third, Eddie second and Curtis first place.

It would be nice to see the nice guy finish first.

Franny1

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 02:07 pm Click here to edit this post

How can anyone who heard Eddie's rr remark about alcoholics and drug addicts wasting their lives be called insensitive and immature when he came so close to losing his? He is in college trying to make a good life for himself and is mad at people who have no self-respect or who don't value thier life. He was referring to the fact that their choice to kill themselves annoys him when so many are losing their lives to a disease that they didn't choose.

Juki

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 02:09 pm Click here to edit this post

I have always wanted Eddie to win 1st but now 2nd or 3rd will do. I have changed my mind to Curtis. He has cracked me up more times in the past month. Just like he just said a min. ago ( Josh says neat that the tv they used will be in Curtis' living room!! Curtis says he just needs to get a living room now.) His humor is just so dry Yes I think he could be on SNL.
So I guess I want Curtis to win the big money.

Creamynougat

Wednesday, September 27, 2000 - 03:05 pm Click here to edit this post

How can anyone who heard Eddie's rr remark about alcoholics and drug addicts wasting their lives be called insensitive and immature when he came so close to losing his?

I don't think the listeners were called insensitive and immature: Eddie was. But maybe that's what you meant...