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Majic | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:45 pm  1. wearing makeup. She's a genuine beauty, why can't we ever see the real girl. My favourite Brit moment was when they called an everyone dance in the middle of the night and she came out all rumpled looking. Jaimie always grabbed the brush and/or lip gloss. Sigh 2. observing not participating. During the first month in particular there was nothing to her being there, just sitting and listening in on everyone's conversations. 3. the Anthony thing. Family should be first always. |
Tashina | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:53 pm  Hmmmm... a very good platform IMO. Thanks for the info. Any ideas on why she doesn't promote it much when she's always trying to talk to the internet cameras? It wouldn't seem to be out of character for her to do so. She does hear Eddie talk about his cause, but like I said all I hear her talk about is herself and her banners. I have looked for reasons to like Jamie, but sadly just haven't seen many. And she has such a sense of fakeness about her, that even the nice things she does are hard to see as "real". |
Juki | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:57 pm  After Curtis won the TV and all was said and done. On live feed Jamie said OH I looked bad on TV did you see me!!!!!! Anyway back to her mother thing Jamie is young and she had to be raised by someone who knows Jamie might have known her mother would have been mad at her for picking her. We have to remember parents raise these kids. Go Eddie!!!!!!!!! |
Chris | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:26 pm  1. For being female. They are judged more harshly than men. 2. For making it to the final 4. Which POs all the fans of those who were banished before. 3. Just being on this show. What was she thinking? She did not realize how cruel and evil the viewers can be. |
Rwsbetter | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:40 pm  Bali: 1) I'm sorry if you thought I was slamming or vilifying her. The point of the post was that she annoyed *me* for that reason. There's nothing mean or unfair about saying that someone did something that bothered you. If it didn't bother you, cool. You're right that anybody would be cautious in that situation, but, in my opinion, 9 people were more honest in their on camera behavior than Jamie (with Cass coming in with a close 9th place) and that's what I tune in for. 2) It was clear to me. I think there may be a lot of people over-magnifying little things here, but I did not. I stated an event and my interpretation of it. It was not a little thing, either way. It was an important moment in this game show. If you saw it differently, cool. I don't put IMHO at the end of a post like that just for kicks. Vive la diffence. |
Remus | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:47 pm  Chris, I love your sappy post One of those "everyone doesn't get it and I do" posts about how us evil people don't understand Jamie Jamie is a fake phoney fraud..I see it...I reported it. And Wednesday night I am going to beat you over the head with Jamie's Landslide banishment like it was one of those foam fingers you see at ball games. |
Latearriver | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:07 pm  Chris-how can any of us understand Jamie? She has never let out any emotion or feelings on anything to give us an idea of what she is about. Why is it so difficult to understand that people who do not want Jamie to win feel that way because not only do we have no reason to want her but she gives the impression that she is so much about her physical appearance. If/when Jamie reads these boards, there is a good chance that she will realize that if she acts naturally, she will be more successful. Hopefully it will be an easy thing for her to do. I think the only reason that Josh isn't bashed as much as Jamie is due to him showing his vulnerability a few times. Now he has the image of the young, mixed up guy. Whether or not this is true, people have been able to form an emotional feeling towards him that is positive. If Jamie had shed a few tears after some of the banners, and done it in front of any of the other HGs, a lot of the criticism of Jamie would have been blunted. I've babbled on long enough |
Kathyb | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:15 pm  Oh yes, I can just hear what the posters here would have said had Jamie ever brought up her interest in baby-girl infanticide in third world countries! She made a very wise decision to keep that to herself, IMO. She would have been torn to pieces. The less Jamie says about anything, the better off she is at this point. I have never seen anyone so demonized, for so little cause. |
Chris | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:28 pm  Remus: I will be looking forward to seeing you in the house for BB2, so we can all see just how perfect you are. |
Jimmer | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:34 pm  The ultimate irony is that one of Jamie's biggest problems is she just isn't a very good actress. She tried to project a certain image and was unsuccessful. |
Battlestar | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 08:55 pm  No---the real ultimate irony is that she had remained the Beauty Queen who was going off to YALE to get her MBA---she would have been more popular--and may have even won the whole shebang. |
Nance | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:02 pm  Jamie lacks zest and passion for anything but the camera's and herself we don't even know what her platform is from her Ms.Beauty Pagent ? One would think she'd carry her passion over from that ???? But she lacks any zest or passion imho plus what I said in my other post ...about the RR letter,her than lying to Cass about it. The crap she handed off to Cass to clean, about the toilet,it seemed beneath her to do that ??? And her doggin Curtis about the Queen going to the bathroom, with NO mic on doggin Curtis and TELLING him she did not want this to become a story line, Truth of the matter is, she knew what she was getting into and all hgs have been showed in one way or another, we just see alot more on the internet live feeds. I don't like the girl....she seems to be a phoney...the key word here is seems to me ! |
Chuck3049 | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:04 pm  Her complaint about the Emmy ticket was during the continuation of the "poop" blow up and took place on the bed Jamie used to sleep on when she first came to the house. She didn't dwell on it, but for some reason she expected that he would have given it to her. I guess I can see how she might have hoped for that. She is the one who is completely focused on show business and Curtis knows this and they are very close. |
Mas | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:27 pm  Thank goodness for Jamie. Without her, the final four could have been George, Eddie, Karen, and Brittany. Jamie and Curtis would have been gone in 3rd and 4th rounds. Throughout the nomination process she was looking for people with good hearts and intentions. When there was no clear cut choice, then she got into trouble. Let me try to give an argument against your statements. 1. The dice. Jamie was getting physically sick worrying about the nomination process. She had several migraine headaches and that painful knot in her back that Eddie was constantly massaging. She even saw the doctor about it. Rolling dice was unwise strategically, but within her right to do so. 2. The storyline. Jamie represents Miss USA pageant, who's connected to CBS. CBS wanted a beauty queen on the show (notice that Miss Alabama was interviewed during Eddie's audition). They chose Jamie over Miss Alabama to represent the pageant. Jamie was under extreme pressure to uphold her organization; therefore, she was limited to show any controversial side - no romantic involvement, no wild partying. No other houseguest had such exterior pressure. If she failed her state title would surely have been taken away and her chance in Hollywood gone. 3. Anthony. BB opening credits say NO OUTSIDE CONTACT. All the houseguests were well aware that they would not see their families and friends for 3 months. If anyone had been overly worried about their spouse, parents, or kids, they should not have signed up for the game. Jamie was willing to wait to see her mom until the game played out. Back to Anthony. BB played a trick on Jamie, where they told her about picking a big casting director <pause> or her mother. CBS knew she'd pick Anthony with the other houseguests encouragement. Same thing about cohosting with Julie, knowing her best friend would be banished. (Knowing that the daily challenge prizes now include going to the Emmys and doing the weather report in a major market, don't you think the casting director could put Jamie in a small part for a CBS movie as a reward and cross promotion. Then everyone would say Great Choice!) Other miscellaneous comments. 1. Karen accusing Curtis. Curtis is old enough to protect himself. He honorably protected his friend against a vengeful, Karen. 2. Jamie attacking Curtis. I am a big Curtis fan, but he deserved the chewing out. He and the frat boys were harassing her semi-intentionally about watching her sun tanning, the guys getting turned on/off, the croquet game, and the bathroom humor. Even Dr. Drew applauded her for standing up. 3. The Romer Letter. Big deal. They could have tossed the letter out or stuck it in a drawer. If its such a big deal, let us read the whole letter and let us make up our own minds, not just an edited portion. No one said she couldn't ask, its was up to BB to determine whether to accept it or not. I admit I know the tide is against Jamie and her end is near, but give her some slack, she's a pretty nice kid. I've really enjoyed watching Jamie and Curtis hang together to the final four. It was fun. |
Jimmer | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:41 pm  I agree with many of your points: One of Jamie's major contributions was getting rid of Karen. The dice bother me, as they seem to have come up for Eddie a little too often. I understand why Jamie "attacked" Curtis. She did this because she likes him the best and therefore felt the most hurt by his actions and felt that she could make him understand her viewpoint. The "Anthony" choice over Mother really didn't bother me that much other than it was poor judgement on her part. Having said this, I still like Jamie the least of the remaining houseguests. Other posters have detailed most of the reasons at length so I won't go into this here. |
Lynnseamonkey | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 09:56 pm  The Romer letter wasn't the big problem but she lied to Cass about it. Most of the Jamie moments have been covered here, but just today she was at it again. AFTER she knew she hadn't won the Trinitron, she announced that she had told BB in the redroom that if she won she would give it to Eddie or Josh. We sure didn't see that, so maybe she did, maybe she didn't. Later she again mentioned it and said to Curtis that he could give it away. I think had she won, and had she given it away that would be most generous, but she tends to want to direct others in thier generosity.. makes them look bad, her look good. She's mentioned dozens of times that the winner should pay for all to go to Las Vegas. Again.. not her money to spend. And when people tried to say that could be expensive, she brushed it off and said SHE would pay for them!! Yeah, right. Her self promotion can be irritating, but often that self promotion is at the expense of someone else when she doesn't have anything to lose (e.g., the Trinitron wasn't hers to lose or give when she announced that she planned to give it) I just hope that she'll be able to grow from this experience. |
Mjji | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 10:53 pm  MAS, If Jamie had all this pressure on her going into this house, then she should have known better than to apply for it. She has shown herself to have so many insecurities and for that, I feel sorry for her. But, there comes a time when people need to take responsibility for their actions. The way she CHOSE to conducted herself (IN RELATION TO THE OTHER HGs AND HOW THE OTHER HGs PERCEIVE EACH OTHER) had a big part in getting her this far but it's also that same conduct that is causing all these topics of debate and essentially leading her to, what seems to be obvious, banishment on Wednesday. No one forced Jamie to go into that house. No one forced Jamie to stay in that house and no one has forced Jamie to conduct herself the way she has, in that house. Jamie has said many times that it's the experience that she's in this for. If that is the truth, then the real reward for her in the end is the opportunity to look back at that experience and see what she can learn from it and become a better person because of it. If she can do that, then she will have achieved something greater than prize money, a title, or fame. |
Katie | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:01 pm  I was listened to her this afternoon before they announced the winner of the TV and she was asking the guys about who had a TV and who needed one. She said she had one. Then later after the announcement she said if she had won she would have given it to Eddie or Josh because they didn't have one and she and Curtis both did. Taken all together I think it is the truth. |
Watweety | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:11 pm  since I don't want to start a whole thread on this and it has been mentioned here. What are the Vegas odds that 100% of the time she rolled the dice that it will come up with Eddies number? Of the three times she admits in the artical on http://webcenter.bigbrother2000.aol.com/entertainment/NON/article513.html they came up with Eddie's number each time. Maybe she should go to vegas with those odds. And did Jamie fib when she stated in the same artical that she nom George and Cassandra and she really nom Eddie and Cassandra? I am sure her supporters will say it was a slip and she just forgot who she really nom... And I will be most likly accused of Jamie Bashing again and called a jealous hater of her. In reality I am just pointing out facts. |
Lafatme | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:39 am  okay, let's all agree that jamie is not perfect. let's all then be thankful that WE are! none of us wear makeup, fib, make poor decisions, do less housework than we should, have ambitions, are insecure, become offended, or have any faults. thank god we are able to recognize all these imperfections in others though, it makes us better people, doesn't it? |
Katie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:45 am  Gee, do you mean that I am the only other imperfect one?? |
Kearie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:49 am  Sitting down in the 'very imperfect' row of posters. |
Katie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:52 am  Here Kearie Have some cocoa. |
Watweety | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:38 am  WOW I guess I should not discuss facts here then... Because if I discuss facts I am saying I am a "perfect" person... I know I am not a perfect person... was just discussing what I read and how I saw it... Maybe I should just make up stuff and say how I hate women who wear make-up... naw I will stick with facts.. I find them hard to dispute even if people want to hate me because of it!!!! (BTW I am laughing at this .... hope you are) |
Kearie | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:36 am  Thanks Katie. I love cocoa!  |
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