Did Curtis' Comments Hurt Him Last Night?
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Did Curtis' Comments Hurt Him Last Night?
Lucinda | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:21 am  I don't think Curtis hurt his chances, necessarily. But I do think that of the three he came across as most taken by surprise. Most people who like one of these guys aren't going to change their minds based on that snippet. But I would say that Josh, in particularly, probably helped himself with his calm, heartfelt plea for Eddie. Both Josh and Eddie came across as more warm, not because of what they said but because of their ease with the camera at that moment. It might have also been that Curtis was most affected by Jamie leaving and that he would have been pleading for her, except that this "alliance" didn't work out... |
Teo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:32 am  OK, I see what you mean, thanks for the clarification. I live in the smallest county in the USA, but I don't think I'm any less "busy" than anyone else no matter in which geographic position they are located. I understand now that you meant the atmosphere and the feeling are different.... |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:38 am  teo: i dont know, i could be wrong, but i worked in the deep south, west, great lakes region, and nothing tops nyc in terms of work atmosphere (people want things done NOW)...and again, the rent is ridiculous too... but then again, i love it here and getting stressed at times is worth the stay... |
Alpine | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:43 am  Dortega, I have to sadly agree with you. For a woman, a minority or a homosexual to win a popularity contest, they will have to soooooo perfect, almost saintly. If they make one teenee tiny mistake, their borderline fan will run away in droves and won't touch them with a ten foot pole. Curtis was almost faultless, and for that he was called a bore, wimp, wuss, spineless, and a homosexual by his detractors. Last night Curtis said that he wanted the money and suddenly he became the greedy lawyer. Before last night, his detractors were saying he did not want the money because he never mentioned it. Either way, there must be something really wrong, scheming or evil about Curtis. I believe in equality for all, but that won't happen now. Eventually, maybe in a few decades, it will happen for women, minorities and homosexuals, in that order. I will vote for the person who has been kind to all housemembers (no matter how mean they were, like Karen and Will), witty, loyal, entertaining, extremely helpful around the house, and most importantly, someone who has integrity. This person is Curtis. I urge Curtis' supporters to do the same. |
Teo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:48 am  Dortega: I've never worked in a city, so I wouldn't even begin to make an assumption -- I believe you since you have first hand experience. Here, we have one stop light, one grocery and 5000 people in the entire county. My town is the county seat -- only because it's the only town in the county! LOL... But, I'm waaayyy off subject here. |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:55 am  Alpine: i have to admit i wont be plunking down any money on this round as destiny has taken over. i do admire your tenacity and the rest of curtis supporters for believing in miracles. however, i must disagree with you on equality: it will never happne, not in america, not anywhere else in the world. what to do about it? i dont think we should ignore it nor whine about it but rather just treat people with respect. should everybody heed this? great if they do, and if they dont, i dont have a problem. again, a large part of our subconscious truly roots in the society we grew up. things we do or decide that strikes others as being racist, are by general just being ignorant. if it is a conscious effort, that is a totally different story. but then is being ignorant excusable? i have to say it is not. should we tolerate it? this is where people all over the world differs. im all for equality, but from observations and experiences, it might just be wishful thinking for now. |
Columbus | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:58 am  I am totally shocked by what Curtis said, Eddie no, that is his style, but I am really disappointed in Curtis. Can you imagine what his family must be thinking? He certainly has changed in the last week or two. And yes, it has affected the way that I will vote. Go Josh! |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 10:58 am  teo: dont worry about it, i have nothing totally against big/small/tiny cities |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:00 am  Columbus: why would one be shocked by someone who's just being honest? if eddie/josh truly meant what they say, i challenge them to hand over the $500k to each other. |
Teo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:10 am  Dortega: I'm afraid and deeply saddened to say that you are right about ignorance. How we act, the beliefs we hold most dear and what we deem appropriate are enculturated by our familial and regionalistic environment. So many times, I have run across people who are prejudiced that do not even realize it. Some of those same people, though, will change their minds when they are presented with a viable option. When people are only given one choice of how to think, they tend to think that way. Until acceptance becomes the tenant by which parents raise their children, all the "isms" will never be totally eradicated. |
Alpine | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:12 am  Dortega, it is not about believing in miracles, it is all about sticking to your principles and conviction. Big changes won't happen without small changes, and it has to start with every individual person. One vote may seem small, but collectively you can make a difference. |
Katnphx | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:15 am  I agree, Dortega. Curtis was being honest. What did he say that was bad? The question was, "Who do you want to win?". He answered truthfully. I can't believe Eddie TRULY wants Josh to win, but I'm not Eddie, so don't know for sure. It is contradictory to what Eddie has been saying all along though. Curtis also said it is in the public's hands and that he will be happy for whoever wins. What's wrong with that? |
Dortega | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 11:19 am  Alpine: i agree with you but it depends on the 'movement' you're supporting. for a lost cause like 'curtis getting the gold medal', i say why bother. while miracles do happen, people have to get practical at times (eddie's got an insurmountable lead! and my theory of the all american image is true, no matter how taboo it may sound to the majority). truth hurts, it's a matter of handling the inevitable. |
Lilith | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 01:19 pm  I think it definitely changed the way I feel about Curtis. I don't hate him, and I'm not going to try to get anyone else to feel the way I do. But, I think it will change how people vote (the ones that actually witnessed it) I can't imagine most of that will end up on tv anyway. |
Bigbromo | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 01:39 pm  Yes, what Curtis said DID hurt his chances. After Jaime left last night, his whole body language changed and he was acting totally cocky. His comments sounded a little bit snotty. His true character was finally revealed. And he says that he is just in it for the experience. What a joke. |
Jonathan | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 01:51 pm  Disclaimer: I don't have an agenda or favor any particular houseguest. I like this game as a psychological experiment more than anything else. I was disappointed with Curtis last night. He seemed just a little too malicious towards Josh. There is good natured teasing and jokes and then there is mean spiritedness. I think Curtis crossed that line. (I will also say that that line is drawn in two different places for Curtis and Eddie. Eddie is a "Noo Yawka" and is more naturally aggressive and loudmouthed). My estimation of Eddie went up a little, as he took care of his little buddy after realizing the hair dyeing thing was going a little too far. Even with all the verbal abuse that Eddie heaped on Josh, you could tell that they are friends. If Curtis had just played it cool, done a little good natured teasing and ribbing, stayed away from the hair dye, and help take care of the sick Josh, he would be a shoo-in for the prize. Eddie appeared more sympathetic than Curtis, while "keeping it real". He could have played the later Josh confessional scene about the cheating girlfriend to the hilt, and come off as the understanding friend supporting his buddy, but actually came off as MORE caring by deflecting Josh from spilling his most private demons in front of the viewing audience in his weak moment. The interesting thing will be how all this is spun for the TV audience tonight. I for one am holding my vote 'till the last minute. I'm still undecided. Nobody is an angel and nobody is the devil. I've decided to weight the next day heavily in how I vote (like it matters :-) ) |
Rufusgriswold | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 02:04 pm  It is astonishing to me that anybody has still to make up their mind about which of the three remaining HGs they support. If Curtis' staightforward suggestion that the audience will be the one to decide who wins could turn anyone against him, then they weren't with him to begin with. The saddest part about the past week is that Curtis has tried to become one of the boys by emulating the boorish behavior of Eddie and Josh, and he is the one who gets criticized for it. In the real world, Eddie and Josh would ignore an intelligent, educated man like Curtis and Curtis knows it. He need not worry, however, in the "real world," men like Curtis are valued and respected, and frat boys like Eddie and Josh end up in dead-end blue collar jobs. |
Lafatme | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:11 pm  what did curtis say that so many are upset about? "i HOPE to win, i don't know if i SHOULD win, and if josh or eddie win that would be great too" i could understand maybe, if he just said "me" but he didn't. does anyone believe that josh and eddie HOPE NOT TO WIN? get real! btw, i'm not voting, i don't care who wins, they're all ok. i just don't see any value in bashing any of these 3. |
Lilith | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:18 pm  Oops... I actually thought you were talking about the drunken talks they were having last night. I was surprised by what he said in the RR, but I don't think it changed my view of him. |
Kitkat | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:28 pm  Last night Eddie was not against the hair dying. He said he would not take part in it, covering his butt. But he thought it a good idea. Also, Curtis was almost as drunk as Josh. Eddie gets away with anything. If he had two legs he would have gone months ago. He is accepted because we feel sorry, as we do for anyone with a handicap. We make excuses. Eddies main contribution is to sleep until he's hungry. get up. curse. f**t and burp. Eat until he's tired and go back to bed. If it weren't for Curtis these last few weeks the house guests wouls have eaten sandwiches. Give credit where it is due. |
Kearie | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:36 pm  Hey.... don't be bashing Eddie or his fans. I like Dortega's and Laf's strategy. LOL |
Katie | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 06:42 pm  Kearie, EASY now! lol |
Rbc | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:34 pm  Curtis has been insulting Josh in the rr for a long time and last night what he did was wrong. What is Curtis' problem that he would dye Josh's hair blue? I thought it was quite funny though when Curtis thought he might not be able to get the blue dye off his hands. (forgot to wear gloves) bahahahahah! I think the 'real' Curtis can now stand up. Curtis took advantage of Josh and everyone knows it. Liking Eddie and Josh has more to do with their honesty and integrity and heart than it has to do with the fact that Curtis shows no allegiance to anyone IMHO. I believe that Eddie will be friends with Josh after BB ends. Also,I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie shared some of his winnings (if he does win 1st) with Josh (if Josh is 3rd) and perhaps George as well; whereas Curtis will share his with Curtis. |
Ricmunoz | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:44 pm  Rbc: If you still want EM's address, I'll email it to you. The moderator (understandably) removed it from my Live Feed post, but I hung on to it. Let me know. My address: init4longrun@earthlink.net |
Frome2u | Thursday, September 28, 2000 - 07:50 pm  Rbc--get over yourself already! BTW--Josh wanted his hair dyed, and they asked and got permission from the RR before it was done. Figured you needed some facts. |
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