Archive through September 10, 2000

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Rwsbetter

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:11 am Click here to edit this post

Jo and Ja talking about after BB jobs.

Jo: I'll do anything except porn (talking about modeling).

Ja: I thought you said you'd do Playgirl.

Jo: Yeah I did but I'm reconsidering.

Talk about RW casts (see my nick).

Ja: Guy from Hawaii did a bunch of TV stuff afterwords. Talking about RW reunion where inconsistencies were pointed out and the cast member said "you try living your life in front of cameras and see if there aren't any inconsitencies.

Jo: John told me I was the HG most worried about editing. But I'm not. I asked about it once and they told me that BB wants to show as much as possible and fairly. I said okay and they never heard a peep from me about it again.

Ja: Yeah that's funny I don't think about you being worried about it at all.

Jo: I'm not.

Cu. comes from RR I guess.

Cu: I guess the game is becoming distasteful to me. Icky. And after hearing you guys say the same things it feels good. I'll do what ever the house does. I'll be happy either way. I'm now thinking we should leave, but that's mainly because I don't want to go back on this morning's decision. John told me not to be involved in group-think. Be individual. Like the Emmies, you're very excited but told the HGs you'd give it up for the group. Decision should be based on your internal feelings, not on what you think is going on outside the house. I disagree because our behavior effects family, employers, CBS, Endemol, fans, press. I think we can't know what the effects will be on all those parties, but we should consider it. Don't want to be viewed as backstabbing.

Jo: John proved to me that editing is good by showing things he knows about me from watching the show. My big reason for leaving is the perception that we may be like "win at all costs," and John pursuaded me that that's not the case. I believe it. John said life is difficult, so is BB.

Cu: He said that to me too and I was not persuaded because, unlike the real world, we can leave here.

Concern that Ge still believes they will still get money. Must try to convince him that that's not the case.

Jo: He also told me that "nominate everyone" is not okay. Would be null and void.

Cu: And rolling dice is okay.

More talk about reasons for nominations.

Kitt

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:12 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis just emerged from RR.

He says early on he could treat BB as business, now he feels 'icky' as they have come more close. He's heard the others feel so bad, he likes that.

He would not push the group if he had the sense that any one had a doubt at all.

This is fun, he's had a blast, whatever happens now he's fine with that, whether they walk or let fate run its course.

He still thinks taking a walk is the best decision at the moment, but isn't sure if that's because he doesn't want to go back on his decision. He will sleep on it.

He said the RR guy said he shouldn't lose himself in the group, but should make his own decision. RR guy Cu's decision to not go to the Emmys if it wa better for the group.

RR guy says the decision should be based on what is going on here, not what you think is going on outside. Cu disagreed with him in part as the decisions they make impacts their families, CBS, the fans who are watching the show. The question is how many are being affected and to what extent. He thinks they have to consider the range of scenarios that result from his decision and whether he can live with it.

Josh says BB might be focused too much on storylines, and not on the hg's characters. BB reassured him by pointing out things in Josh's character that he had noticed. Josh said he was pretty accurate, and that created some reassurance that BB had the intention to bring out what they really felt.

Josh said his decision for walking would have been that the audience thought the Hgs were win at all cost, now he doesn't believe that's what the fans perceive.

Cu says he doesn't think the audience perception is important, it's whether he wants to do this anymore, as it's distasteful. BB said of course the decisions are hard, that's what the real world is life. Cu says unlike the real world, he CAN leave here.

BB suggested that George still has the impression that they all walk out as winners, and Cu has a duty to tell him that's not true. Cu says he's tried.

BB said the equal nomination option is not possible. They want the nominations to be more personal. Cu says he feels he has to make up reasons to find someone he can nominate.

Cu says he is torn about nominating people but knew it was the rules when he came in. He wonders if they are quitting because they think it's hard, or are they making a decision which is better for them.

Josh says tomorrow will be interesting, Jamie and Cu agree. Talk about Emmys.

Lawyerman

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:23 am Click here to edit this post

Josh just revealed to Jamie what he revealed to Curtis earlier. Jamie just said, "I wish I didn't hear that because I don't know what that means."

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:24 am Click here to edit this post

Josh, Curt, and Jamie talking in LR. Josh asks Curt for his consent, then reveals to Jamie what else Brit said, only to trust Curtis and Eddie. Jamie looks perplexed, glaring with furrowed brow at Josh as he tells her this. Her only reaction: "I have no idea what that means." Curtis agrees that he doesn't understand it either. Jamie says that she wishes she hadn't heard it, because she doesn't understand it. Josh says it must have been meant to mean something to him, but that he doesn't understand it. Jamie slouches lower on the couch and says she's unhappy that her "closest friend" would say that about her. Curtis tells Josh his version of what Josh told him earlier, that Brit "doesn't know about" everyone else but Curtis and Eddie. Jamie continutes to look upset, and after a silent pause, Josh tries to reassure her by saying "don't overanalyze it." He says that in the RR, he told her the same thing, that it went in one ear and out the other.

Kirabira

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:24 am Click here to edit this post

oh great josh told jamie and cur that whole brit said only trust curt and eddie at tis point.
all silent... jamie very pensive
jamie: that doesnt make sense to me
josh tries explaing
jamie: that doesnt make sense to me at all
josh says how thats just what brit thought.. they thought different about things anyway! laughter...
jamie says it a THIRD time.

jamie: i wish i didnt hear that. cause i have no idea what that means..

jamie upset.. says thats mean..
now curt asks wait waasnt the quote this way...
josh i dont know now..
(trying to soften it so jamie doesnt feel so bad )
decide she said 'the other i dont know about.. as opposed to saying you cant trust anyone else..

josh says dont worry about it.. dont over analyze it.
curt: what is brit doing? ...running the house amuck..

Lawyerman

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:24 am Click here to edit this post

Just to clarify my above post, Josh just revealed to Jamie that Brit told him, "You can trust Curtis and Eddie, I don't know about anyone else."

Kitt

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:25 am Click here to edit this post

12.20, Josh says he thinks he should tell the other hgs what Brittany told him, so it's not hanging over him. He tells Jamie that Brittany told him he could only trust Curtis and Eddie.

Jamie said that doesn't make sense to me (ed - I think, hard to hear, very quiet).

Josh explains again that Britt was told there were certain things she couldn't say.

Jamie says that still doesn't make sense.

Josh says he can't make decisions based just on what Brittany said, he trusts everyone here.

Jamie says she wished she haven't heard that as she doesn't understand it. It seems funny someone she thought of as a closest friend would say that.

Josh tries to remember the exact phrase Britt used "You can trust Curtis and Eddie, the rest of the house I don't know about" (Ed - she actually said "rest of the house there are questions about").

All sit quietly. Josh advises Jamie not to think about it or overanalyse it too much, that's why he didn't tell everyone before. He also said he'd told Britt he didn't care.

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:27 am Click here to edit this post

They all sit in silent thought. Curtis looks contemplative; Jamie looks down, troubled; and Josh looks bored. Continuing silence.

Kalihiwahine

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:30 am Click here to edit this post

In living room, Josh has just told curtis that he will tell the rest of the house about the other thing that brit told him...re: "trust only curtis and eddie and as for the rest of the house, I don't know about"...josh says that he wants to tell so that he doesn't have anything hanging over him....wants to clear the air

Jamie is sitting on sofa w/ curtis...josh says that he could just tell jamie now since she is already there...curtis agrees....


Jamie looks absolutely STUNNED and speechless when she hears that....wants to know exactly how brit said it and why would she say that...

Josh tries to remember exactly how she said it..and tries to explain that maybe she said it because she really didn't know about the rest of the house...

Dion

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:31 am Click here to edit this post

Josh want to get all off his chest so it's not hanging over him. So, Josh tells Jamie what Brit said. "Josh, you can only trust Curtis and Eddie." Jaime says I don't know what that means, she's my best friend. I wish you didn't tell me. Josh says she probably meant it in context to noming him. He says, he doesn't care who nom'd him, he never did. Cu says he thought it was you can trust Eddie and Curtis, I don't know about the rest. Tells Jaime not to over analyze it.

Cu says it's ironic that we were together several night ago talking about what this was. Now we're together and we know.

Jaime not saying much, looks pensive. Everyone now quiet.

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:34 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie says it'd be weird of Brit to say something like that with everyone's family and friends in the studio, and Curtis and Josh laugh and talk over each other about how wacky and unpredictable Brit is. "The girl gets away with murder, and you still love her.. I dunno," says Curt. Curtis laughs that it's ironic, that they were just like this three nights ago when they didn't know what the information is, and now that they do, they're sitting around thinking the same way. Josh explains that they're trying to rationalize it with incomplete knowledge. Jamie wonders who flew the banner with their four initials on it; Josh doesn't believe it's Brit, since there are so many people out there who could have done it; Curtis wonders what the law is regarding using her name. "You are the freaks that funk" is her humor, he says, but that anyone who watches closely would know her humor by now. Jamie mentions that there was another banner supposedly from Brit, and tries to recall what it said about their good chances. She also recalls the one about loving Josh, for him to keep the faith.

Curtis says their decision to walk should not be based on their perceived chances of winning, and Josh agrees; Curtis says on the other hand, you must consider that you might be shocked when you get out to find that you had it won already. Curtis says he does like the idea of walking out with Pugita; "Curtis, please return the dog," says Josh. Curtis jokes that there's no rule about the dog crossing the threshold, that the next day they'll amend the rules to make the dog part of the house, or a houseguest. "I love our dog, I mean my dog," says Curtis.

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:38 am Click here to edit this post

Jamie says that what Josh just shared proves that people inside are pitted against one another; Josh defends that it's only true of someone outside of the house, but that it's not how he thinks. Curtis says he never talked with Brit about the nomination process, so he doesn't know how much trust she invested in the nominations. "She has a good heart and I trust that what she said was to help you somehow," Jamie says. Josh agrees that it was to help him out. Curtis repeats that he doesn't know what she meant; Josh says he doesn't matter what she meant. Curtis speculates that maybe she was referring to people who have never nominated Josh, and Josh says that in the RR they asked him about that possibility.

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 12:53 am Click here to edit this post

Briefly: Josh and Curtis are discussing working out George's issues, like addressing the possibility that he doesn't have such a large fanbase, and that it's expected that one's family and friends will do everything they can to promote their own houseguest. Curtis reasons that they have no idea what criteria the voting public uses to vote them out.

Arteitle

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 01:07 am Click here to edit this post

The group has broken up to go to bed. Josh has gone out to sit by the pool, and Jamie joins him. Josh is worried that he looks like a hyporcrite; Jamie reassures him that he does not. He doesn't want anyone to look at him differently, or think that he looks at them differently, based on what Brit told him, because he doesn't feel any different. He doesn't know if human nature would allow this, however. Meanwhile, in the bathroom Curtis snips a few hairs from above his temple (as he earler discussed giving himself a haircut) and then brushes his teeth.

Jamie says she doesn't understand Brit's comment, but that seeing the banner with their initials that may have been from brit was nice, but she doesn't know if maybe Karen was bitter and influenced Brit, or maybe she was feeing betrayed that day when she talked with Josh; Josh asks for it not to affect things in the house. Jamie says that it's commendable the way he handled it "on the drop of a dime". Meanwhile, Curtis wipes hair clippings out of the sink.

Kalihiwahine

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 01:40 am Click here to edit this post

Josh & Jamie had been sitting at pool and talking but have now said goodnite...They both go into house...Jamie picks up pugita and josh says goodnite to both of them...

Sitting on the kitchen counter, Josh eats a banana..

Josh has completed eating the banana and is now sweeping the kitchen floor...gets dustpan and sweeping something onto it..

Josh walks into living room and flops over onto sofa and looks like he may fall asleep there..after a short while, he props himself up on his left arm with his hand bracing his head up and appears to be deep in thought..

F1 mens bedroom, view of eddie asleep..

F2 long shot of mens bedroom...eddie and george in their respective beds...

F3/F4 josh still propped up on sofa, eyes closed so maybe he fell asleep....

Timbo

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 04:03 am Click here to edit this post

bb time 3:32
F3
Cassandra is awake sitting on the floor of the living room.
She is facing a plant, looks like she is reading a book.
Snoring can be heard in the backround, no one else seems to be awake.
She is now petting the pug.
Cassandra gets up from the floor.
Cassandra and the pug go outside.
Cassandra goes back inside, and looks at one of the two-way mirrors.
After a few mins. Cassandra lets the pug back in.
Cassandra goes back to sitting on the floor with the pug at her feet.
Cassandra just sitting there petting the pug.
Cassandra yawns (me too).
bb time 4:00

Modulated

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 04:03 am Click here to edit this post

Just want to add one little interesting bit that was left out of the 12:30 am conversation between Josh, Curtis and Jamie (where Josh revealed who Brit said Josh should trust).

At one point, Josh left, leaving Curtis and Jamie alone. Curtis and Jamie agree that "CBS was trying to help out Josh" by allowing Brit to give him potentially helpful information. (ed. When Josh was around, they had not discussed CBS' motives.)

Rperlow

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 06:45 am Click here to edit this post

Just checking in, everyone is sleeping.

[ed. my husband is not used to being in the computer room when I'm watching live feeds - he was startled when he heard snoring!]

Corto

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 07:24 am Click here to edit this post

f1 - f4 Serious snoring ... and nother more.
f5 I can see two (bb control room) people and hear the HGs snoring.
Cass or Jamie is muttering in sleep.
f6 couple of bored chickens...

Jana

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 07:27 am Click here to edit this post

HG all still sleeping and a snore that i can only assume is Curtis. Control Room looks pretty quiet too, I see just two people in there....one walking around and the other one just leaned back in his chair and stretched...they will probably all sleep til wakeup today after last nights events zapped their energy

Lawyerman

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 08:24 am Click here to edit this post

Just checking in. Everyone is still soundly asleep in their respective beds. The girls in their room, and the guys in the cave. The pug, I believe, is in the love bed with Jamie.

Ryn

Sunday, September 10, 2000 - 08:24 am Click here to edit this post

House is asleep - not even any snoring that I can hear. All feeds on the bedrooms.