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Sixtieslibber

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:21 pm Click here to edit this post

I thought Eddie's threat to Jamie in tonight's (Thurs. 9/21) show was sickening and unacceptable. He said he'd like to "clothesline" her--which he demonstrated as hitting her in the throat with his arm locked straight. The "why hate Eddie?" thread has some discussion of this but I think this incident was serious and startling enough to deserve its own thread. Is anyone not bothered by this?

Wishnik

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:25 pm Click here to edit this post

I thought it was very wierd. How did the other guys at the table react? I wsa half-watching the TV when this happened and missed the full thing. I know Jamie just got up and walked away. I'm not an Eddie hater at all, but this incident was sort of scary. Scarier than any of George's wacko/wacky stunts.

Wendy

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:26 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm not.

I haven't seen the show yet (still on video) but knowing Eddie, he was just being overzealous. If his behavior was consistently cruel, then I could see being upset by it.

But this is just Eddie being his goofy self.

Did Jamie freak out/cry/whine/talk non-stop about it? If she never, then she obviously never had a problem with it, so why should anyone else?

Kady99

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:27 pm Click here to edit this post

I found nothing wrong with it. It doesn't bother me at all. I love Eddie and nothing anybody says will change my mind.

Deeya

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:30 pm Click here to edit this post

If you watch the tapes... Jaime did walk off..but look at what Eddie is doing when she did... he has his hands fulls and is eating something... the editing of this makes it look like she walked off upset.. but I don't believe it happened quite that way... Anyone watching the live feeds see this??

I think Jaime is unused to boys roughhousing....but she is FINALLY learning to play with them... she might have been unsure about Eddie's playfulness.. but I would be surprised if she was seriously concerned that he was close to be abusive

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:31 pm Click here to edit this post

Although I doubt that Eddie was in any way serious about this, he has proven himself to be a monumental imbecile to pull a stunt like this three days before the final nominations. If he is actually "playing the game," he must really have nothing but contempt for the voters. Why doesn't he just turn to the camera, say "This is for you audience" and p*ss on the lens? Anyone who argues that he is just being himself only solidifies the argument that he just doesn't have a clue. Fourth place will be just right, I think.

Judy

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:32 pm Click here to edit this post

I thought he was just trying "to get a bite out of her". Didn't work though - I was yelling at the TV - "Jamie take the guys hat off and bop him on the head with it -- he's begging for it!!"
Or better yet - let him put that arm in front of your face one more time - grab it and CHOMP!
He just wants to horse around...earlier in the show when everyone was sitting quietly and he started screaming - I knew what he felt - silence can be annoying!

Rmgreco

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:33 pm Click here to edit this post

I noticed that too Deeya and thought Oh Jeez, BB is trying to start trouble!!

Stealth

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:34 pm Click here to edit this post

yeah cbs did Edit that .. if u were watchin the live feeds at the time it happened u would know that for a fact. Again CBS just did that to get an uproar out of everyone and from what ive read "mission accomplished" which i think is wrong. jmo

Kiari

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:36 pm Click here to edit this post

Anyone who found Eddie's desire to clothesline jME obviously never had a big brother---no pun intended.

Rmgreco

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:39 pm Click here to edit this post

LOL! Kiari!

Green

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:40 pm Click here to edit this post

concept comedy

Kara

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:41 pm Click here to edit this post

So, explain what really happened then? Would Eddie have done that to Cassandra? I don't think so.
I was watching the show with my 16 yr. old son, (who has watched BB about 5 times total), and he said, "Man, what's wrong with that guy"?

If a 16 yr. old thinks it was weird, what are other people thinking? It may have been a joke, but it was a bit scary for a moment there.

Cubed

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:41 pm Click here to edit this post

They were all joking around at this time - trying to release frustration. I was surprised to hear both Josh and Curtis mention that Eddie needed to "break the seal" at least one time each in the show. Don't know how many times the might have said it in the live feeds.

Have you ever really watched Eddie with the Pug-dog? The mouth says one thing.. but the body says another. Some of the most poignent scenes have been Eddie and the dog. One of the scenes that sticks out is Eddie on the ground covered in pugs and talking to them.

Ricmunoz

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:41 pm Click here to edit this post

The next scene showed her visiting his bed to deliver the poem. Even if this wasn't chronologically accurate, it showed the viewer that she wasn't upset by it. Yikes! She even gave him a kiss before she left the room. He may scare her every now and then, but all told, she DOES like him (if she didn't, I seriously doubt she would go so far as to kiss him).

But to answer the original question--YES, I was bothered by the gesture. I am uncomfortable with ALL depictions of male violence against women--playful, feigned, speculative or real.

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:42 pm Click here to edit this post

I would like to reiterate that I don't for one second think that Eddie meant any harm to Jamie. I know he's a sweetheart inside. My point was the he is doing a really lousy job of winning half a million dollars, which has been his spoken intention since day one.

Judy

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:43 pm Click here to edit this post

<So, explain what really happened then? Would Eddie have done that to Cassandra? I don't think so.
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No he bangs pots and pans in her face in an attempt to get her to slug him ...that didn't work either, she just walked away like Jamie. <sigh> I miss Britt.

Bigbrotherchick

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:45 pm Click here to edit this post

I just replayed that scene in slow motion... BAD CBS!!!

It WAS edited! Here is how it works in slow motion.

As Eddie is explaining how he wants to clothesline Jamie, There is a glass pan on the table with (looks like) chicken in it. Curtis has a blue plate in front of him that he is eating. Only ONE blue plate on the table. Jamie has a green fork in front of her. Eddie goes on about how to do the clothesline. Cut to Curtis putting piece of chicken in his mouth from his plate, Cut to close up of Jamies face looking upset. Now shows Jamie getting up and walking away, and while she gets up and walks away, Eddie has a blue plate in front of him with chicken on it, You see him chewing something and then taking another bite.

This was CLEARLY edited with a slant!

Now I am not saying Eddie didn't upset Jamie in some way, but it was edited clearly.

What is UP did anyone see this on live feed?

BigBrotherChick

Notbored

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:46 pm Click here to edit this post

What Eddie did was wrong! And Wendy, if Jamie had freaked out/whined/talked non-stop about it we would be hearing about how awful she is for it. She did the right thing, asked him why he would want to do that and then removed herself from the situation. I started out liking Eddie. I didn't really watch much when the show first started so didn't see/hear the racist remarks. Decided I didn't like him much when he did his screaming and pot banging. He kind of redeemed himself for awhile because he does have a quick wit. I was still bothered by his constant nastiness but was willing to give him another chance because he is "young". After seeing this act with Jamie and his snide gay remark to Josh last night he lost any chance with me. And yes, I know he was joking but they weren't really very funny jokes.
Eddie really doesn't seem to have any respect for anyone. Every once in a while he does something that seems sweet but it is nearly always followed by nastiness. And for all you folks who go on and on about how Eddie is "real" , yes, he is real...a real jerk.

Deeya

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Actually I think that Eddie would have done the same thing to Cass. Remember him wrestling in the love bed with Britt... Eddie likes to play... It's just like a guy that wraps his arm around a girl's shoulder from behind and then does a "noogie" on her head (rubbing his fist in her hair)... it's playful and it's fun..

Elisa

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Have you ever lived with young men? My son said more than once that he wanted to see if he could drop me with one punch and then proceeded to shadow box. They're boys, they rough house, they think they're funny. How do people get through life taking everything so seriously.

Jennylynn79

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Those complaining must have never had brothers.

Judy

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Right on Deeya - dontcha wish you were there sometimes- I would catch him unawares and tackle him!! He'd LOVE it!

Kokomo

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:51 pm Click here to edit this post

I think Eddie is frustrated with Jamie - and has been for some time - I think she gets on his nerves in a big kind of way.

I don't think it was a brotherly taunt, (I have a big brother - I perfectly understand that scenerio) but it didn't seem to be a serious threat either - more insulting than anything. Kind of a passive-aggressive way of saying - "hey, I don't like you"

Of course if Jamie would have played into Eddie's hand and thrown a hissy fit - Eddie could have said "Don't get your pantys in a wad - I was just joking!" Making her seem uptight. But Jamie didn't bite the bait....

Battlestar

Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:52 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie wants to be one of the boys--Eddie is treating her like one of the boys.

I think he would have wanted to clothesline anybody who sat down in that chair beside him---she was the one---and she was treated like one of the guys.