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Archive through August 29, 2000
Fruitbat | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 05:43 am  Scoo. This is entertaining. I can't help but think you may have influenced her. Please try not to talk about this with her. It is more fun if she is really in the dark and goes only by the charts. |
Doyle | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 06:04 am  Noooooo! I want George to go this time. Brittany breathes life into that house and it won't be the same without her. I hope Scoo's mom was right the first time. And I also hope she's wrong about Eddie not winning. I do take some comfort in knowing that Curtis and Cassandra aren't going to be banished any time soon and that Jamie will not win. There' always a silver lining |
Jayavy | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:56 am  To continue with my message above about banishment possibly following the order of the Zodiacal signs, here is the rundown of the entire ten house guests: Leo----------Will, Jordan Virgo--------Karen, Brittany Libra--------George, Cassandra Scorpio------ Sagittarius--Curtis Capricorn---- Aquarius-----Joshua (on cusp, possible Pisces) Pisces-------Eddie Aries-------- Taurus------- Gemini------- Cancer-------Jamie |
Eddieluver | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:08 am  Josh is NOT an Aquarius but instead a PISCES and that is a different sign all together dear. I am an Aquarius and if you would read above I stated that it's a shame there is none of us in the house. |
Jayavy | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:26 am  Sorry, Eddieluver, I was just glancing at the birth dates and didn't use an ephemeris to figure out if the Sun had already moved into the sign of Pisces on February 21, 1977--Josh's birth date. The signs change on or about the 21st of the month, but every year it varies slightly. Also sorry that in reading all the above messages I did not remember that you were an Aquarius. |
Ccc | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:33 am  Unfortunately I don't know much about astrology (altho I use it in my garden). The sun sign is only a part of a chart and wouldn't determine the order of anything. Thank God - if Jamie wins I lost all hope for humanity. Probably doing event charts to determine who goes when and I think that involves comparing aspects of the whole chart and what's in the sky at a given time. Anyway, I'm a sag and haven't met another one I didn't like - maybe that's why I like Curtis! |
Fruitbat | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:53 am  Ccc I'm a sag too! Curtis is my favorite and I enjoy reading your posts too. |
Ccc | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:56 am  Fruitbat - kisses to you |
Scoobettenq | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:13 am  Fruitbat, one thing that I can say for my mom is that she is NOT influence-able (if that's a word). She goes strictly by reading the charts, and has astrological facts to back up her theories. In fact, since her last prediction I have said over and over, are you SURE? It looks like George will be the one to go! And she keeps telling me, well... that's what I see - the edge is for Brit to leave this time when they're not expecting it. I think I've irritated her by asking her every 5 minutes if she's really positive! Prediction astrology is of course never exact, because events are all influenced by free will. But we'll see on Wednesday what happens! The sun sign theory is an interesting one. I think the 2 Leo's were bound to go first because they clashed with everyone else. But after that, it's coincidence. Banishments are more influenced by transits and progressions than sun signs, and sun signs are only a minimal part of someone's chart. And for another thing I can't see Jamie winning this thing unless it's completely rigged!!! |
Zelda | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:50 am  Hi Scoob... Love your Mom! So how does she feel since Saturn (planet of lessens to be learned) is on the cusp Taurus/Gemini going retrograde with George's Rising in Taurus ... it just seems fitting that he gets banished this time (if not the next). With the sun in Virgo it just amplifies the energy surrounding that sign. Big lesson he did not completely deal with in the past coming back to haunt him... Saturn takes 10-12 years to return to a sign so I find this very interesting since his accident happened, I believe 12 years ago. Just my thoughts! |
Jayavy | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 03:52 pm  Regarding the order of the sun signs, I offered that only as an interesting observation about the first three persons banished--and then projected out from there. Obviously the complete charts with progressions and transits are necessary for predictions. By the way, astrology is really a study of things that coincide ("just a coincidence"!) using astrological positions as keys to worldly happenings--relating the character and essence of a particular moment to the planetary pattern at that moment. The planets do not cause events to happen, but they do indicate a probability within a defined range of actions or characteristics. Back to the banishment by sun sign idea--I can see how that order might actually play out. And this does not mean that Jamie would necessarily be the winner. Remember, from the last three remaining in the house--Joshua, Eddie, and Jamie in this example--the public votes for the winner and the game ends. So no "banishments" as such. At any rate, for those with an astrological bent, it is an interesting speculation. |
Zelda | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 04:30 pm  Hi Jayavy! I thought your post about the order of banishment was interesting! I do have to say though... Astrology is from the Greek meaning "science of the stars." The definition is... The art and science of studying the celestial bodies and their cyclical motion, and determining their influences on human character, behavior, experience and events. I have to say that it is not coincidence that this happens...It's science. The energy can effect one in a way but what they decide to do with it is the outcome. Like I have always said... It is a science and a tool. It's fun. |
Scoobettenq | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 12:47 pm  Mom's astrology picks: She wrote out her in depth astrological reasoning for why both would be nominated at this time, why George won't win, and why she gives Brit the edge for banishment this time around. It's really too long to post here, I think?? But I've typed it up if anyone wants it, I'll email a copy to you - just email me at disney@uswest.net . Or, if you think I should just take up the space and post it, I will. The terms might be interesting to some, and gibberish to others not familiar. I asked her to do so, so that it will eliminate possible thoughts that I might have influenced her, or this may be "guesswork" with no basis in fact astrologically. It's pretty interesting, nonetheless!  |
Zelda | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 01:10 pm  Scoobettenq I would love to see it posted here... I think it would be interesting to alot of us! |
Scoobettenq | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 01:40 pm  OK I'll post it - I don't know if there's a space limit but here goes, from mom: Why I saw George being nominated this time: Well, I don't think he'll win so banishment is a foregone conclusion in the next few weeks. Transiting Saturn is conjunct his natal Mars - this is a very hard aspect! It frustrates and restricts your ability to act unless the action is well thought out and for the highest good of all concerned. Pluto is on the cusp of the 8th house after passing over his progressed Mercury, not exactly a good luck charm. Transiting Mars has aspected natal Uranus and is now opposing transiting Uranus, indicating a change for him, and then for everyone in the house. Will he win the money? I don't see anything that indicates winning money at this time. Jupiter is going into the second house (money/self-worth) but there are no planets there and the ruler of the 2nd is in the 6th (work!). Pluto is going into the 8th, which is usually hard personal, spiritual work of transformation and renewal. The 10th house is empty and unaspected except for Neptune which may bring the illusion or desire of money/fame, but not the real thing. The ruler of the 8th is also in the 6th (work again), and the ruler of the 10th - Saturn - is in the 8th, requiring hard work, responsibility and self-discipline. Not aspects for someone winning big sums of cash. Brittany: Brittany was my second choice for nomination, second mostly because I think she had a chance at winning the money where George didn't have any chance at all. Will she win the money? Transiting Jupiter over progressed Moon, and moving up to natal South Node conjunct Moon in Gemini - in the 8th house (lucky - the house of other people's money!). Transiting Pluto conjunct natal Neptune conjunct North Node in Sagittarius in the second house (house of money/personal finance). Powerful 2nd and 8th house aspects give her a shot at winning the big money. The trick is, what's her motivation? How is she acting under stress? Is she working positive traits of her North Node in Sagittarius by being centered, direct, idealistic and really interested in those around her? Or is she falling back on negative traits of her South Node in Gemini by acting scattered, superficial, flighty, flirtatious? One of life's challenges is to learn how to work our North Node, so the way she chooses to conduct herself in this situation will have a direct impact on whether or not she'll win the cash. Transiting Mercury moving onto her Sun in the 11th gives her the opportunity to focus on her goals and think carefully about her motivations. However, if she chooses South Node in Gemini activities, Transiting Uranus is trine her Moon (Moon conjunct South Node) ready to upset the apple card and change her plans - not necessarily for the better! Who will be banished? Either one could go, but I choose Brittany because: Transiting Neptune trine Natal Pluto conjunct Mercury in the 12th - her motives are hidden, even from herself. Transiting Pluto has squared her natal Pluto conjunct Mercury in the 12th this last year, emphasising again deeply hidden motivations. Transiting Saturn is in the 8th house - the message being get serious, be honest with yourself about what you really want and value. Not an easy aspect. Expect 2 years of emotional hard work. If by some fluke she wins the money, it won't make her happy. Transiting Saturn sextile her natal Venus - this is stirring up all of her old insecurities about herself as a woman. Transiting Pluto square natal Sun - problems with authority figures, learning to use personal power wisely! One crisis after the other involving power struggles, ambition and trying to force your way of thinking or agenda onto other people around you. (This aspect will still operate even if she wins the money, but will be harder/tougher!) However, this is one more hard aspect that also leads me to think she'll be banished. Transiting Pluto sextile her progressed Sun and Mars in Libra in the 12th. Time to look deeply at how you interact with other people - another hard aspect showing that this is a time of personal crisis for her. Her psychological position is not a good one, and is not in a "winning" mode (a simulation that adds to the picture that she's become "her own worst enemy" during these transits). Transiting Uranus Trine Moon conjunct South Node - she's locked into a mental position thinking she can have her own way no matter what, and Uranus provides a sudden, shocking external change out of her own control. How you control other people doesn't control what fate does. Transiting Moon conjunct Venus in Virgo, right on the 12th house cusp at time of banishment - what happens at this time will come as a shock to her (and surprise to lots of people around her), and have a deeply emotional impact on her, especially as that Moon crosses her natal Mercury conjunct Pluto in the 12th. In closing: Brittany has a LOT of aspects, transits, some positive some negative and a few that could swing either way - but she has a lot of internal conflicts and external events going on. George has only a few major transits, most of them difficult/challenging. Events and happenings are usually triggered by transits to natal or progressed planets. It was destined astrologically that they'd both be nominated during this period. And they both have chance for banishment but by these facts above, I give the edge to Brittany at this time. "Scoob's" mom |
Fruitbat | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:07 pm  Thanks Scoo's mom! |
Zelda | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:15 pm  Yeah Scoob's Mom This is why I came up with the prediction (in another thread) that Britt and George were going to be neck and neck. The stars point more toward Britt because of the increase activity but I still have a feeling it will be George. The 8th house-hard work aspect...I feel this means back to work sooner for George. But it could also mean Britt has more opportunities for TV. I still think CBS will oust George if it is close ... Thank you for all the work Scoob's Mom! |
Ccc | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:29 pm  Wow - thanks so much Scoob's Mom (and Scoob for talking her into it!) Sure wish my mom did this - I'd have her working full time! Ya think she'd do this for us each nom/banish event? |
Ccc | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:32 pm  Zelda, does it sound to you like if Britt DOESN'T go this time, she might be unbeatable? Might change my vote if that were the case.!! |
Zelda | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 02:54 pm  It depends on a couple of things... Scoobs Mom mentioned her North Node and her South Node... It's kind of like the higher road and the lower road. She does switch quit often from one subject to another ... emotion to another etc... which are traits of her Gemini South Node (Geminis are great ... it just brings out the less desirable traits). The North node traits would be the stable fun girl. Attention getter but in a positive way. So that is her choice. As Scoobs Mom charted; she has a lot of action going on (a lot of bottled energy in herself) it looks she may make some wrong choices. The HGs may nominate her thinking she will be safe (just like George didn't get any noms before) but if BB announces how close it is... or the hgs are getting bad vibes from Britt... she isn't helping with the puzzle much, both Curtis and Cass have mentioned this ... then I think she will be up for banishment next. The closer to her birthday, the more intense energy (can go either way) I have a feeling something will be up with Jamie soon... I will look at her chart and get back to you. I hope all this was clear. Ccc...I will be getting to you soon... love your chart ... we will talk! |
Ccc | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 03:33 pm  Zelda, thanks. Not sure "clear" is the appropriate term, but you helped! Think they will announce how close the votes were; they set the precedent last time. If I were a houseguest, I'd nominate her again if the votes were close because it'd be safer if I was also nominated. Plus, if she isn't banished this time, but votes are close - it sounds like she may not take it well, and that seems to get you nominated, too. Think I may be past caring who goes when (since I can't control it anyway) and focusing on hoping one of my favorites makes it to the end! I just find the astrology part so interesting. Also a good chance to watch it in action. Luv my chart?? Now I'm intrigued. I thought I was a "bucket" case..... |
Jayavy | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 09:42 pm  Scoob, thank you for sharing your mother's analysis--and of course, thanks to her. One question--and you may have already answered it in some message above, so forgive me--does your mother have the birth times and places of the house guests? I know the birth dates are posted, but I haven't seen the other information. Since your mother's analysis includes the house structure, I assume she has all that data. |
Scoobettenq | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 11:08 pm  Yes she does, actually that info is posted on the official BB site. Go to "House Guests" where their profiles are, and click on the tab that says "Astrology". There's a brief astrological personality profile on each of them, and their birth info is there too. |
Ccc | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 12:19 pm  Zelda - Hope that last msg, first line, was taken with humor. I shd have said "clear to me". I don't get enough blood flow to my brain anymore (long story) and, among other things, have recently discovered to my dismay that my "humor" is often so "dry and subtle" now that absolutely no one sees it but me! (This has been pointed out by my husband a lot, but it doesn't mean I've learned it!) Anyway, was not commenting on what you said - but on MY ability/inability to understand. Also, as on many of my posts, I later see them and realize - that's not what I was trying to say at all - or just how lame can a person be! This is not self-deprecating, actually, just trying to accept limitations and laugh at the reality. |
Zelda | Tuesday, August 29, 2000 - 12:29 pm  We 'bucket' people must stick together... I actually got exactly what you were saying! My humor also dry... I go back to my posts too and say, well I didn't mean it that way... oh well I am freaked because I have to go to a job in an hour and I won't be able to be on the computer until tomorrow. Do they have a laptop that I can where around my neck??? I will be e-mailing you sometime tomorrow... do some posts for me! |
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