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Archive through September 23, 2000
Lisat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:12 am  Mlady - Very Well Stated!!!!! |
Bigbroho | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:21 am  Some of you folks just "don't get it". Eddie would love to clothesline everyone. Not because he is violent but because he is so frustrated with the "happy-happy, love-me, love-you" attitude in the house. If you remember, his comment that he wanted to clothesline Jamie was said to break an uncomfortable moment when they were all sitting around staring at each other. Eddie was really saying he was bored. He was saying "C'mon, someone. Lets play. How about you Jamie, you want to play with me?" Because Eddie has learned to protect his vulnerability behind his toughened exterior does not make him abusive, aggressive or improper. It makes Eddie, Eddie. What's happening here is, Eddie is saying exactly what his on his mind. And ladies, you may not get it but guys actually have a need for physical contact - whether its football or rough wrestling. It has a lot to do with testosterone and clearly Eddie has plenty. The fact that he said that just means he knows actually doing it is not right. He spoke what went through his mind and all of you with some sort of past problem with men, start a bashing. Oh, I know, here I am setting myself up for the wrath of the man-hater community but so be it. Get a life you sorry bunch of man-haters. Not all men do what instincts tell them and not all are as aggressive as the ones you might have endured. I'm sure that Eddie was equally desirous of horizontal mamba with Jaime but he hasnt done that either, has he? And hey, Jade! That Big Brother showed it and did not have him carted off should tell you something too. Watch Eddie with the dog. That will show you how Eddie deals with things he loves. Eddie loves that dog - he is just not fond of showing how much. |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:22 am  Creamy: Oh I'm sorry I stepped on your turf. I was making a remark about men in general not all men.... You Eddie Haters are taking this so seriously. Eddieluver, apology accepted and I am NOT an Eddie Hater. I simply disapprove of some of his actions. He doesn't deserve to be taken out and shot but he ought to be repremanded. Jamie's honesty (or lack thereof) in the RR is irrelevant to the discussion. It is ludicrous to take Eddie's joke to "clothesline" Jamie seriously. Taken not seriously, it's still inappropriate. |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:25 am  Watch Eddie with the dog. That will show you how Eddie deals with things he loves. He treats people he loves like dogs? |
Franny1 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:27 am  GOD!!!!!!!!! WILL YOU PEOPLE CHILL OUT......Today Jamie thinks Eddie is the greatest. Doesn't sound like she's all that upset. Eddie haters are just trying to sway your vote. The best thing to do is not post to this stupid thread |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:36 am  I am AMAZED! If that were your daughter and someone threatened her in such a manner would you still find it funny? WE ARE NOT MAN HATERS! This is about an aggressive behavior and viloence against woman. Why not put yourself in the shoes of a woman or a child who has been abused in their own home. I was mortified by his act last night and now if he goes home with money...sorry. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 11:40 am  I am sure PETA will be after him when he gets ut of the house as they already had a problem with them putting all of the PUGS in the PUG challenge |
Soweird | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:22 pm  Whatever, if you think Jamie was physically abused by Eddie, you should call the police and report it. I don't know how you could stand by and allow a woman to be physically assaulted. Otherwise, please stop posting messages about Eddie's "physical aggression" as you call it. Last time I checked, verbal comments weren't physical. As a matter of fact, commenting that you "want to" do something technically isn't even a threat. I don't recall you saying a word when George leapt into Curtis's face and nearly slapped his hand across his mouth to shut him up. Give it a rest. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:44 pm  Verbal comments are considered "VERBAL ABUSE" and can be just as dangerous or life threatening as "PHYSICAL ABUSE". Would you want your own daughter treated in such a manner? How about your mother? YOu may not agree with me and that is fine, but I did feel Jamie felt threatened by his actions and I for one was stunned that BB did nothing. And who knows since it is on tape, she could press charges when she get's out...you never know. |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:51 pm  Soweird, So, according to you, as long as Eddie does things which don't require police intervention, it is acceptable. There is no justification for Eddie's repeated pattern of behavior. It remains unacceptable, despite your very obviously flawed argument. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:52 pm  I agree with you WHATEVER! |
Donnalea | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:52 pm  Many of you are falling prey to the current witch-hunt called "domestic violence." For some REAL information, ask a guy who's in jail for it. http://www.jimgoad.com He's in jail for hitting his girlfriend after she punched him in the nose. Women are much more violent than men in domestic situations. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:55 pm  Donnalea...if such were the case than both deserve to be in jail! |
Twofacedjamie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 12:59 pm  I cannot believe this thread is still going strong. Like someone above mentioned, get a life! I cannot believe how some people latch onto something, twist it all out of proportion and just go on, and on and on about it. Haters, get a life. |
Katnphx | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:03 pm  I posted very early in this thread that I thought the incident was a little wierd, but to me, that is a red flag that CBS edited something to look like a bigger deal than it was. It wouldn't be the first time they've done it. With a new round of voting coming up and Jamie the most likely to get a lot of votes for banishment (if she is up), CBS needs to get us all to hate another hg as much so they will make more $$$ in a voting war. Looks as if everybody is playing right into their hands judging by the length of this thread. |
Katie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:06 pm  I find it rather interesting that so many people come in here to complain about the thread continuing and yet post. That continues the thread. I guess I don't get it. If you don't like it, it would make sense to just avoid the thread. There are so many of threads here it would be easy to find plenty to respond to. |
Curtandeddie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:06 pm  PETA?? That's the same bunch of nutcases that had a fit over an actor eating a maggot in the film Shawshank Redemption. LOL. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:08 pm  I just think that everyone was mortified by his behavior that it is now become a huge matter for discussion. Also, I do tend to agree that this is an editing thing! Like you say they can edit any way they want. |
Katie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:13 pm  The live feeds were diffent then the show. During the feeds she sat there wide eyed and ate her breakfast and when she was done she got up. That looks very different then what the TV showed. Everyone seems to think that my veiwpoint is warped so I will leave it there. |
Sixtieslibber | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:13 pm  I started this--maybe I can help wind it down. I read the first 200 posts and here is a summary of them. I counted 65 different posters with 4 basic views plus 11 posters off the subject, flaming others, etc. 24 posters: Eddie's comments just goofing around--often mentioned similar experiences 19 posters: Blame the victim, blame the editting, or Jamie wasn't bothered so that makes it o.k. 18 posters: Behavior unacceptable or worse 4 posters: Disappointed Eddie would do something like this near the end of the game. Remember the old joke about guys in an institution calling out numbers and laughing and a visitor asks what they are doing and the answer is that they are telling jokes but they've heard them all so many times they've decided to save effort by numbering them. So the visitor asks why everyone laughs so much more at one particular guy and the answer is "he tells them so much better than anyone else." I was surprised that some people who commented hadn't see the show at all or had been half-watching. Only a few had it on tape. Eddie did say that seeing a bruise on Jamie's throat would be cooler than giving hugs. Vote your conscience! |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:14 pm  Women are much more violent than men in domestic situations. Women are generally not as prone to violence and in any event, this hardly justifies anything. Was Jamie behaving violently? Was Eddie acting in self-defense? What is your point? |
Soweird | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:28 pm  >So, according to you, as long as Eddie does things which don't require >police intervention, it is acceptable. Nope, I didn't say or imply that. I implied that if a man commits an act of "physical aggression" against a woman then intervention is completely appropriate. What I saw didn't constitute physical aggression. I object to you repeatedly characterizing it that way because I assume it is an attempt to sway the opinions of those who didn't see what actually happened. |
Katie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:34 pm  Women are much more violent than men in domestic situations. I don't think that is true. Men are more likely to become violent but women are more likely to cause serious or fatal harm when they become violent |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:38 pm  Soweird, Eddie has demonstrated a pattern of physical aggression, beyond the one act that you refer to, which you would have realized if you read previous messages in this discussion. Anyone can form their own opinions about whether they find Eddie's behavior acceptable or unacceptable based on the information available to them, whether it be television, live internet streams or discussions. It's not up to you or me to control what other people think, despite your concerns or flawed assumptions and desire to do so. |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 01:38 pm  What I saw didn't constitute physical aggression. I would not characterize his behavior as "physical aggression" either (though others may disagree). Eddie did not lay a hand on Jamie. However, I do think his behavior was inappropriate, insensitive and wrong-headed. Mostly, it was just plain dumb. |
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