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Teecee

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 09:22 pm Click here to edit this post

9:11pm thought Curtis was supposed to come out soon? ANOTHER plane flies overhead. Eddie says he got thrown out of Student Council, etc. He was in good w/the teachers. He didn't kiss @$$ but he showed them the respect they deserved. Just "Good morning, how you doin'." and the teachers loved him. So his brother came to school and they always called him Bobby Eddie's younger brother. Eddie left, his bro took over his spot, and now when he comes back the teachers tell him his brother's great etc. Eddie says his brother is cool, very smart, but of course he corrupted him. Cass says it's hard to be the second kid following when the first kid's successful. She doesn't know cuz she was the first, but looking at her younger sister she thinks so. Yet another plane flies low overhead. Her sister's only 13 mos. younger than her so maybe that was why. Eddie's brother is three years younger but taller than him - maybe 6'4" or 6'5". He would come in and his parents would have sh*t to hate - so by the time his brother was coming w/the same stuff, his parents were broken in. His parents realized, he's 18, old enough to fight for his country, should be old enough to drink a beer. They always said he could call if he was drunk and they'd pick him up. He and his friends were responsible and would walk home for 5 miles rather than drink and drive. Eddie sees his mom being involved in his kids, b/c she did such a good job with him. Cass points out grandparents can just be good and love their grandkids w/o having to discipline them. Eddie says he'd love to give her Mom a grandkid, not to make her a grandmother but so she could enjoy kids again. He quotes at 20 a kid (missed it) a woman, at 30 a kid preserves her, at 40 a kid makes her young again. His mom went thru some sh*t as a kid and kind of missed out on her childhood, but she's said she kind of got to live another one thru Eddie and his brother.

(The most I've ever heard Eddie open up about his family - think he's close to Cass maybe? -ed.)

Teecee

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 09:33 pm Click here to edit this post

F3
George comes outside for a moment. Goes back in at some point.

Cass asking Eddie if he ever felt like ppl were trying to bring him down, Eddie says nah. Eddie talking about someone (must be his mother). She's tiny, like chest-high to him, even shorter to his brother. Cass thinks he could just pick her up and move her wherever he wants. Eddie says Monica is short too, like 5'8". Cass objects, that's not short, Cass is 5'6 1/2". Eddie guesses she's about Cass's height, 5'6 1/2".

Got disconnected. Reconnect to Cass saying that at some point she has to leave (NY), but she wouldn't mind living someplace warm. She loves the weather of LA, she loves it. San Diego has beautiful beaches but it doesn't do it for her. Not enough to do culturally and going out etc. LA offers a lot more. Of course entertainment industry and media too. It's funny how in NY and East Coast it's all about going to Europe, but in LA and West Coast, it's Asia and Australia. Eddie says the thing about NY is it's close to Germany, it costs him $150 maybe to fly there. Cass points out if he moved to LA it would cost a lot more and take 5 hrs. more. Eddie figures $500 more to go from LA to NY, then on to Germany. Eddie thinks about what's the scenario, b/c the 8th (Sept. or Oct., not clear, but I think Sept.) is their anniversary. She's going to be in university in Hannover so he can go out and see her. Not sure what the timeframe is of how soon he can meet her if he walks next. Cass says when she was nom'd she wanted to find out too but couldn't.

Pause in convo. Cass points out depending on what the atmosphere is outside, he may not want to leave the country. Not b/c of media attention or whatever but he may just like the vibe. Eddie says school starts Monday, so even if he does walk he'd still probably be going back to school. His coach is working deals on letting him get to school late. The "administrator of disabilities" is trying to swing things as well. Eddie said at worst he'd be in school Oct. 2, coach said the school needs him academically and athletically.

They lose contact for a few moments as Cass goes to put on her hood, and adjust her sign. Camera switches suddenly to the love bed - looks like Brit is alone there, as Jamie gets up to go to bathroom sink. Argh!

Teecee

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 09:37 pm Click here to edit this post

(Thanks for pitching in, Amellia!)
F3
Jamie and Curtis talking, Curtis at bathroom sink, Jamie hugs him from behind briefly. Talking schedules, Curtis is next apparently? Bathroom cam, he's soaping his face and washing it.

Now Jamie's outside, says she just felt like coming out. Brit is sleeping well in love bed. Cass says there's bugs in her hose water, she needs another glass. Jamie goes and gets a glass for Cass. Cass says Brit's been in bed for a long time - since about 6:30pm.

Jamie is still outside and Cass and Eddie apparently done talking about anything personal. Eddie starts whistling. Now they're talking schedules. Curtis is 1-4, Sloshy at 5, then Eddie again in the morning. Cass says she's sure she'll be up then too - someone ought to cover that one. This convo looks to be mostly done - and as I type that F3 switches to the LR - Curtis and Jamie on couches talking about network coverage of something.

F7 shows they switched cams again, F1+2 on the dancers, F3+4 on Curtis and Jamie. Audio for F7 is switching intermittently. Very strange. Two convos...time for two more ppl to take over - g'nite :)

Max

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 09:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis and Jamie in the living room lounging. Curtis: You look totally bothered by something.
Jamie: you can tell that just by looking at me?
Curtis: yeah
Jamie: Yeah, you probably know me that well.
Curtis: Well, it just looks like something is annoying the he11 out of you. You don't want to talk about it in here, though, right?
Jamie: that's the frustrating part.

George comes out of the redrum and chats briefly. Nothing important. George leaves.

Curtis: I wouldn't worry about it too much. It'll work out, whatever it is. I'll be in the redrum unless you want to talk.
Jamie:I would if there weren't any cameras.

Then she said something about George.

Jamie: It just sucks when you find out something disappointing about someone.
Curtis: a recent discovery?
Jamie: Yeah. I just hope the public sees everything about everybody.

Silence.

Curtis heads for the redrum. Says they will continue later.

(ed: the way Jamie interjected "Chicken George" in the middle of that was interesting.)

Teemo

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 09:47 pm Click here to edit this post

Even Curtis can't take it any more and leaves Ja alone to go to RR. Ed, Cass and George talking about dance schedule again. George goes inside. Ed says Monica worries about their future alot and cries, and Eddie tells her to stop. Cass says you can't tell her to top crying, but he says he does.

Monica says "I live here and you live there, and you have another year of school and I have 4, and you do this and I do that..." and he gets stressed out. Ca says it's a stressful situation but it can work.

Max

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 10:21 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie and Eddie in the living room. (Missed the first part!)

Jamie says Eddie's ring looks familiar. Eddie says it's an old ring. She says she had one like it before. Says it could probably fit on her wrist. Eddie says he finds that hard to believe.

Jamie: you've done a lot today, huh?
Eddie: yeah.

Curtis comes out of redrum. Eddie asks if Sloshy is asleep, Curtis says yes. Says it seems he was in the redrum forever.

Eddie tells them they've been in the house for 50 days tomorrow. They say that's a long time. Eddie says 38 to go!

Chicken cam!!!!!!

Switched to F2 (was on F1)

Still the three of them in the living room, but quiet. Eddie says good night and heads to bed.

Curtis: Was I in there for like ever?
Jamie: yes.
Curtis says the redrum asked if they were compiling information. He told them he was bothered. "Essentially it was nomination related."

Curtis: it drives me nuts that i can't talk to anyone here because we're all in the game and subject to the same rules, so essentially I'm just going to waste your time here (this is what he told the redrum). Says he "pulled a Jordan" and told the redrum that. They say it's okay, Jordan left a vacancy.

Jamie: what are YOU bothered by?

Curtis: heavy sigh. laugh. I guess the nominations, generally, well specifically this round. Yeah.

quiet

(camera zooms in closer. each on a couch)

Jamie: are you still thinking about what to say?
Curtis: No, I know I'm not going to say anything, but I'm thinking about what I could say. laughs I'm sticking with my principles about not talking about it.
Jamie: I didn't realize you were so bothered by it.
Curtis: I think talking about it in the redrum helps 'cause you can just ramble and get your head clear in there.

quiet

Jamie: I don't like it that you're bothered by it.
Curtis: It's not that bad. I'm actually glad I had the extra day to think about what I'm going to do. I don't know. It's really.... I think what it is is that when you do nominate, it's based in part on how you see perceive and feel about people. You could do it based on something else, though. And so...

quiet (curtis yawns)

Curtis: What did you recently learn that was sort of disturbing?
Jamie: (heavy sigh) Just that a certain person who is so vocal and pissed off that anyone would ever talk about nominations already told a few people who he's voting, one by one with numbers 1 thru 10 who he's voting for from beginning to end. Big story. Disaster. I don't even want to talk about it. It really bothered me.
Curtis: Wow.

quiet

Jamie: that was why I had that look on my face when you asked me waht was on my mind.
Curtis: Brit just told you this?
Jamie: Yeah. That's why I can only hope that the public has seen everything, 'cause I'm not going to talk about it.. in the redrum or anywhere, 'cause all it does is make me look...
Curtis: I talik about it in the redrum, cause my policy is it's no good here with all of us... Besides, sometimes people need to talk about it to get it off their chests. Other people may talk about it as manipulative ploys. I don't want to talk about it right now, though. It's not my way.
Jamie: Yeah, don't. It's weird, too, cause like....

quiet

Curtis: 1 thru 10!? <laughs>
Jamie: shhhh!
Curtis: Only Brit and you know this?
Jamie: I don't know. I don't even really want to know too much beyond Brit talking about it because, you know, I just didn't want to....
Curtis: well...
Jamie: It's just disappointing, you know?

quiet

Jamie: I have really bottled up wayyyy too much here, it's like all inside.
Curtis: Yeah, you can't let it really get to you.

Jamie said something, couldn't understand.

Curtis talks about how it's hard 'cause you think people are one way in this closed environment and then it's hard when you find out they aren't that way. Worse is when you suspect they aren't that way.

Jamie says something about not thinking anyone is a spy.

Curtis says he needs to trust his instincts.
Jamie: I haven't seen you get close to anyone except me and Cass?
Curtis: I love everyone here. You and Cass I've opened up to quite a bit more than anyone else. Maybe 'cause you guys are more receptive to it. But, no, true.

Curtis heads to the bathroom.

Max

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 10:35 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis is now making coffee. Jamie still lounging on the couch. Curtis said before that he needed coffee 'cause it was too cold in there. He only has one blanket that is "pug free" and doesn't want to bring it into the living room (to become pug infested, I guess :) ).

Curtis checks with George and Cass who are dancing to see if they need anything and when he needs to relieve one of them.

Back to couches.
Jamie: if there was something about me, you'd tell me, wouldn't you?
Curtis: yes
Jamie: promise?
CUrtis: Yes! Laughs. Definitely after the show! Laughs some more. NO, we're close enough that I would definitely tell you. Absolutely.

Jamie: Do you remember a long time ago when we were playing chess and you didn't directly ask me a question, but you sorta did and I told you I'd tell you if I ever did? Actually, when Jordan was here and we were playing chess you said that something would happen and I said no way and then later it did.
Curtis: I don't remember specifically, no.
Jamie: Okay, I'll tell you later then.
Curtis: just tell me
Jamie: you know how I never told anyone who I nominated except with the first time for Jordan and Mega? I was really close to Jordan and I told her that day or whatever, and I told her if I ever did nominate her again, I'd tell her. Then the next time, the second time around, I told her whether I did or didn't because I said I would. After that, I kept it to myself. I told you the same thing when we were playing chess. It was after you were nominated. Ater that, though, I never told anyone. Until CBS announces it.
Curtis: But I knew that one.
Jamie: I don't know how you knew that.
CUrtis: Cause I know you and I knew what you were thinking on that one. Oh, Jamie, you're like an open book to me! (in funny voice)
Jamie: really?
Curtis: I know you pretty well, I think. After this long I generally know how everyone ticks here, or I think I do. Or I don't like the general conclusion I've come to. Idon't like what I'm doing though...but I should.... Ohhh.....

quiet

Curtis: I just have to keep in mind that in the end, we're still here for fun, and it IS fun. We've gotten out of this experience some of the best stuff that you could in a full 8 weeks at the very least now. Great memories. Maybe a little fame. Maybe a little infamy, who knows? Laughing But it's just totally cool. And yeah, maybe you miss out on the prize money or don't get to stay as long as you want to, but you got the super chunk of what was important. You know it's gotta fall to somebody, or whatever. So in a way, I've kinda gotten everything that I expected and maybe....you know...everything beyond this is sorta like gravy. We all want to stay and win, I'm sure, but....so maybe it shouldn't matter so much, getting all upset by things and people and all that and maybe instead of 9 close friends you walk out of here with 8 or 7 or 6, but some. Fun times none the less. Now I'm rambling!
Jamie: was he able to give you any feedback or just talk with you or just listen (redrum)
Curtis: a little bit. He's cool. I seem to talk to him a lot--he seems to be there the most. I haven't talked to Mrs. S very much, though. I don't know why.

Curtis goes to get coffee. Jamie says she'll wait.

Max

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 10:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis gets coffee for himself and George (George asked for his black and Cass said something about "how can you do that to yourself?").

Curtis asks Jamie if the dog needs medication. She thinks maybe the eye stuff. Dog is sleeping, though and they don't want to wake her, so decide to do it tomorrow. Joking about how they aren't being very responsible with the dog. Evidently the dog has a blue tongue for some reason.

Curtis: How did Brit react to what you were saying earlier?
Jamie: What she told me? She's known for a long time.
Curtis: Really? Wow! This wasn't a sudden thing?
Jamie: Just sudden for me.
Curtis: craziness!

quiet

Curtis: I guess if this person did it, though, 10 thru 1 would have been a long time ago, huh?

quiet, sipping coffee

CUrits: Does being here bother you as much with the nominations and banishment, or do you think you're doing better?
Jamie: oh, don't say anything to anyone, by the way!
Curtis: who would I tell? laughs
Jamie: anyone in this house or whatever
Curtis: okay
Jamie: No, I think watching the nominations now three times, you know half the house has been up and I think there are three people here who set a really good example. And then with you having happened early, but not afterwards, that's like a cool thing.
Curtis: it's cool for me, I gotta say!
Jamie: And um... yeah, I mean it still sucks, but...What sucks more than anything is just not being able to, like talk, you know?
Curtis: uh huh And yet, people are still talking! (in the funny accent) pause
Probably we'll be able to look back at this and laugh. i can't believe I get all in a bunch about this. I don't know why I don't just go into the redrum, do my business and walk out without a second look. I don't know if you could be human and do that.

quiet

Curtis: the house is just so quiet now. it's cause so many of us are asleep with this new thing. It's quiet anyway, now, with only 7.

quiet

Jamie: What are you thinking about?
Curtis: Huh? same as before! laughs
Jamie: you should see the look on your face.
Curtis: It's so funny, I think by the time we can get our sh*t together, road trip, whatever, this will be so far behind us.
Jamie: probably random stuff will come up. We'll be in some random town and some stuff will come up.

They start laughing about suddenly saying "Holy Sh*T! Remember this!"

Jamie: you have good intuition, though.
Curtis: Hope so. I just can't trust it now, though. LIke when can I ever trust it. Granted this is a messed up situation in some respect. I always think I've been a good reader of people. Then I guess if you mess up, you mess up. Not reading somebody or undertanding somebody.

quiet - can hear George and Cass laughing outside
Curtis sips his coffee.

Curtis: You're back! (Eddie came out of the bedroom)

Curtis whispers: he's back!

Curtis: we're just going to let the tonic go to waste, aren't we?
Jamie: George smelled it tonight and I asked if the alcohol content was getting higher. He said he didn't know.

More talk about alcohol and that BB never told them if the beer ban would be lifted. Curtis guesses it's not completely outlawed 'cause they got Heineken for the basketball challenge and some Guinness after the massage. Curtis figures the Guinness was an ex post facto (after the fact) because of the massage was so rough and BB didn't expect that.

(ed, note: sorry for the long posts. I don't wanna miss anything!)

Scoobettenq

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 11:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Max, you're doing a FANTASTIC job, thank you so much! This is a very interesting conversation. :)

Max

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 11:06 pm Click here to edit this post

(I've gotta go to bed! Hope someone can pick up for these late hours)

A little talk about when they need to dance, then Jamie got up to get coffee and go check on Brit.

Jamie briefly got in the love bed, but then got up again (missed anything that was said due to switching feeds). She goes to the bathroom where Eddie is and asks if she should take a shower now or wait 'til morning. SHe's going to be outside dancing and is concerned about having wet hair in the cold. Says her hair is getting really light. Asks Eddie what color he thinks it is now. He's not mic'd so I couldn't hear what he said. Eddie is cleaning his face and Jamie is just sort of standing there looking in the cubbyholes where they store bathroom stuff.

Now she sits down next to the sink. Says something to Eddie about her hair being blond once and that she doesn't like it this color. Then leaves as Eddie starts blowing his nose.

She went back to the couch. Talking to Curtis about when to shower, when to nap, when she needs to dance next. Miscellaneous talk about the dance schedule and cookies.

Curtis says he'll dance for 4 hours 'cause he's up and it's easier for him to do that than anyone else. George can't stay up late, Eddie has sleeping problems, so it's easiest for him and Josh to stay up and do 4 each.

Jamie decides to go sleep with Brit until it's time for her to get up and dance. Various talk about how to wake people up since the dancers can't leave the floor.

Eddie is back. Says his back is hurting a bit and leaves (still no mic on and BB hasn't admonished him). He goes back to the girl's bedroom again.

Jamie says you can hear everything from that room. To wake her, they just need to pound on the windows and yell. Curtis says, Everything?

Some discussion about the gossip trail and how you can hear voices from some of the rooms but not necessarily make out what's said.

Lots of quiet.

(That's it for me tonight, kids!)

Hocus

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 11:41 pm Click here to edit this post

Jamie & Curtis were sitting quietly on the couches. George & Cass outside dancing. Cass is talking about her job.
The cam switches to the guys rooms.Josh just sat up in bed. He & Eddie have a quiet conversation which is hard to hear.
Eddie-Yea, they are really looking out for us, they say 'I'm looking out for your health', they have us eating, sleeping and dancing for four. 'This week we don't give a f**k, next week we will give a care.'
Josh makes fun of BB watching out for them by making them eat pie till they puke their guts out.
Jamie comes in, they kid her about something but I couldn't hear what. Jamie & Josh say that it's good that Brit is getting some sleep. They talk about the dance schedule. Josh inquires about the pug's medicine. Eddie says 'stupid f**k'
Eddie says he wants to sleep, but Jamie's still not leaving.
She asks Josh if he's tired, he says he isn't but it's best if he sleeps for a couple of hours. They continue their small talk for a while.

Hocus

Tuesday, August 22, 2000 - 11:56 pm Click here to edit this post

Josh talks about doing stuff in his sleep (like driving) and just not remember it. Eddie says that happens when you're drunk.
They talk about the nomination process tomorrow. Eddie still thinks it may happen on the live show. Josh says it will probably happen when he's asleep and he'll go in the redrum and make his nominations while asleep.
Eddie starts singing. Josh leaves to go to the loo? Cam switches to Josh asking Cass & George outside what the dance schedule is going to be. He tells them that Jamie is going to sleep in the guys room and Eddie is sleeping in there also. Brit wakes up. Josh tells her that he guesses that they will not be dancing together that night.
Cam switches to Geo & Cass, they are talking about the weather and the pug.
Cass says 'This is terrible, a dance marathon without any music. They ought to be ashamed' (ed. what happened to the music?)
Geo reports his laundry is in awful shape and should do it in the morning. Cass convinces him to wait until Friday afternoon after the dancing is finished.
Curtis comes out. George tells him that he smells good. Curtis "That's to hide the stink" George "Don't let Sloshy smell you like that" Curtis is going to take a restroom break and then relieve George.

Hocus

Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 12:12 am Click here to edit this post

Cass & Geo discuss the toll the dancing is taking on all the hgs. Geo says he could do more, Cass said 'These guys have 15 years on you, let them do it.' She goes on to say that she's surprised that they haven't given them hot water during the day to help out. Geo is really worried about Cass and went to the door to motion to Curtis to come out and relieve her. Cass still has to eat and do the redrum before she will be able to sleep.
Curtis said that dancing not bad, just annoying. They haven't had a sit down meal since it started.
Geo says what I found out is you've got to go in the groove and the time passes. Geo has the menu all worked out for the next day. A full breakfast, which Curtis thinks is cool.
Curtis asked Geo if he was still listening to the music. Geo said 'yea, I'm kinda liking some of it'
Curtis said 'One of these songs could be the BB Theme song and we wouldn't know it.'
Geo 'No, not one of these, only if the show was a flop. A big freaking flop'
They talk about how the dancing schedule messes up showers, meals and chores.
Curtis asked if they were giving Geo any more problems with his dancing style. Geo answers 'This late at night they ease up a little. They're cool about it.' Curtis 'They are already doing enough by giving us this music'

Hocus

Wednesday, August 23, 2000 - 12:28 am Click here to edit this post

Cam 1 is on Cass in the redrum, but the sound is from the guys outside. Cam 2 is chickens. Cam 3&4 are outside. Brit comes out to relieve George. Brit is actively dancing and is going to wear herself out. Cass comes out of the redrum. She and Josh are cleaning the kitchen. Geo comes in from outside and said, 'yea, she's in high gear' (meaning Brit). Josh asked if they listen to the music, Geo kids 'No, Cass wanted to, but I didn't.'
Cass wants to do something with her teeshirt to mark her mom's birthday. She had two ideas which she told the redrum about. They didn't answer her, but told her to be creative. Geo asks Josh if he's going to be up for a while and if he's going to lift weights. They laugh. George recommends that Cass make a sign on a cereal box and hang it from her dancing number. Cass thinks thats a good idea.
They talk about the redrum people, Josh says he likes the night crew the best. Geo did a little dance, packaged up the rest of the food and is then going to bed.
Cass wonders if they will get an ALL DANCE tonight, but Josh thinks they will wait till the morning.

(I hope someone is awake who can pick this up)