August 27
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Chrissy808 | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:11 pm  F2 on table outside They are eating while the pug is sniffing around the grill. Cass asking for the mayo. Alot of shuffling of plates and stuff. Cass talking about what she likes on hamburgers. Pug eating something off floor. George asking Sloshie for a burger. Alot of food talk, boring. Jamie saying that the onion rings are awesome. George saying "come on hollywood" George asking for salt and pepper, everyone coming out to eat. Jamie is surprised how well her onions came out. I think everybody is eating but Brit. I don't hear or see her. They are all still just eating and talking. Britt has finally come outside to join the others. There is a lot of mmmm's and ahhh's |
Janine | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:12 pm  To clarify some earlier live feed updates...Josh and Brit were talking about Josh's fear of dying..how he wrote once that in 5 years he saw himself dead. Brit asked if this had to do with his mom and so many others close to him dying. When they got up to leave...they hugged and embraced. Gave each other kisses on the cheek and he thanked her for listening to him. |
Snowbunny | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:38 pm  Dinner patter - Eddie claiming that Romer was in the house the first night they were there - while they were asleep. Everyone is skeptical. Cass and Curtis were called to RR - they are to discuss racial stereotypes in America (Curtis using geek voice). Discussion must last 30 minutes, everyone must talk. |
Lawyerman | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:42 pm  Since no one has posted lately, I'll try to sum up the past 30 minutes. The HG's have been eating dinner outside. Eddie has discussed his belief that one of he BB staff was in the guys room on their first night in the house when everyone but him was asleep. The personal was looking at the camera cross. The other HG's seem to doubt what he's saying, but he sticks with his story. Curtis and Cass have been given a discussion topic for after dinner. BB wants them to have the discussion in the living room. Curtis reveals the discussion has to do with racism and the HG"s must discuss for at least 30 minutes per BB's instrictions. All finish up dinner and assist in cleaning up the patio area where they were having dinner. |
Snowbunny | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:46 pm  Eddie just said "So much wood, so little crutch. The better to bone you with." lol. People back inside from dinner. George and jamie in bathroom cleaning up, Jamie talking in really odd stage voice. Brittany making out with pugita "she's taught me a thing or two". They're all assembling around the puzzle now. |
Scribe | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:46 pm  F-3 B and Ed at sink.. Ed hugging Brit f1 Pug sitting / Curt at sink in bathroom doing teeth with Cas in room too..can't hear anything but scrubbing of teeth.. F3 brit at sink in kitchen.. Cass on f1 scrubbing teeth ...now George scrubbing teeth.. Brit and Eddie, Ed hanging on Brit hugging ... Ah now jamie at mirror ..Curt may be at table with puzzle (hard to see)...not much audible talk..Jamie on f1 looking in ata camera in hall..Brit on f3- still at sink in K. Ed no loner at sink with Brit.. Alot of moving around..must be preparing for discussion. |
Snowbunny | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 08:52 pm  Oops, actually they're in the living area having the discussion. Ed going first. Saying people need to look past skin color, handicap, etc. "ignorance is the only true handicap". He doesn't think it's a major problem but then again, he's never dealt with it - every race has it's own kind (white people have white trash, for instance). Did he have any preconceived notions of people before he came in the house, asks Cu? No, other than Brit was a bit weird. Brit says she disagrees, thinks racism is still a big problem. She does have some stereotypes and is judgemental even though she wishes she could say she wasn't. Her partner at work is from a small town, only black person, was treated poorly and doesn't want to have kids because of it. Net congestion... |
Snowbunny | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:01 pm  Brit thinks education is key and thinks it would be great if there were no stereotypes in the world. She had preconceived notions about everyone before she came into the house but not based on their race. If anyone says they didn't, they're full of crap. Now Josh is talking, he was raised with exposure to various races. Always has a lot of friends of different race. Moved around a lot as a kid. |
Snowbunny | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:13 pm  Lost feed. Cass is talking, disagrees with Eddie saying that racism isn't a problem in the US, but she respects Ed's point of view. She feels racism every day, thinks it goes both ways as far as black people harboring resentments towards other races as well. There is a strained relationship between asians and blacks as well. She deals with stereotypes everyday at work, when she shops in nice stores she gets followed around, talks about how hard it is to get a taxi in New York. She says the little things build up and make black people frustrated overall. Brit asks if black people have stereotypes about whites, Cass says sure. Black people have a hard time seeing interracial dating because there is a sense of "you are a part of me - why am I not good enough for you?" |
Janine | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:29 pm  George's turn. He says, "Racism do exist." Says he lives in a minority neighborhood and his kids go to public school... Says it's impt to expose children to people of all races, religions, etc. Says you should treat people like how you want to be treated yourself. Talks about running the concessions in the school system where he volunteers. Says it all goes back to the home and how you were brought up. Time is gonna take a long time to heal the wounds that have been created over the years. (ed note..i'm trying to quote..hehe) We've come quite aways but we have a long ways to go that's for sure. |
Smartassbbw | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:30 pm  After Jamie gave her long opinion on race. Snyopsis: The media needs to take responsibility George giving his opinion. G: It all goes back to the home. My kids have been raised with people of all races, religions. They have always gone to the public school system. It basically comes down to this. Treat people how they want to be treated. More talk about the school system (ed. missed some of it from bad feed) G: (restating) it all goes back to the home. Yes I do see improvement but yes there is still need for imporvement. THe old school is still out there. (missed a bit) Time is going to be needed to heal the wounds that are out there. (net congestion) G: It won't go away overnight. But I do believe with time we are making progress. Once again I can't walk in another perons's shoes. I live in a minorty neigborhood and i love it. Yes, we've come quite a ways ..(repeating statements now) |
Teecee | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:31 pm  (one shot update from me, George's thoughts) George agrees with Cass, says racism does exist. He lives in a minority neighborhood, his kids go to public schools. He says racism starts at home, a lot has to do w/just not knowing ppl of different races, or hearing bad things about them on TV. He's lived in minority neighborhood for 20 yrs, and loves it - he has excellent friends there, it's "just neat" and his children don't know it any other way. That's how they raised their kids. But the kids've been exposed to all sorts of races, religions, haven't gone to elite private schools, always gone to public schools. It always goes back to "you treat ppl like you want to be treated yourself, no matter how they are". He runs concession stands at the football games, and welcomes anyone and everyone to help out. It all goes back to the home and how you're brought up. (I don't know about you but my respect for George just increased tremendously -ed.) George sees improvement but there's still some ground that needs to be covered. But there's still the 'old school' out there (Cass agrees), but over the period of time they're chipping away at it. Gonna take a long time to heal the wounds. But, George says he can't walk in another person's shoes either, that's for sure. (Some more repetition here -ed.) Brit says that family matters but school is key too. Says her grandparents have 'prejudism'(sic) but her father is much less, then she is much less. |
Teecee | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:35 pm  Just pointing out - Jamie's "long opinion on race" included a couple of anecdotes of overt racism at her high school, including some kids who cut radio station stickers (like K106 or something) to spell out "KKK" on the back of their cars, and kids who ran thru some assembly wearing white sheets. Curtis was before Jamie, I only caught the tail end of what he said but he did mention that when he was younger, he thought being Asian hurt him in dating (white girls I assume), but now in NYC maybe he's among ppl with wider experiences or something, b/c it's not a factor in dating. |
Smartassbbw | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:36 pm  Thanks TeeCee - I missed a lot of what Jamie said since she was repeating it. But that's a better synopsis than mine short line |
Blue | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 09:55 pm  Looks like no one caught Eddie's turn. I caught it in the middle -- he says that he's been a member of AMA for two years now -- Association of Mexican Americans (? -- I know the Mexican part is right). Says there are only three white guys, himself included, that belong. Says it's great, he loves it, they all band together to study, to help people move. Says he wasn't going to join at first, but when he went to a meeting with one of his teammates, everyone took the time to get to know him, and was invited to a BBQ on the weekend, and the rest is history. |
Whatever | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:07 pm  Short note, the discussion continues- Ironically, now the HG's turn the discussion around to BB! They are discussing selection process, and the ideas they had about who BB might pick from the applicants based on race. Some applicant mentioned to Curtis he might get picked because he was Asian. Talk about BB selecting black HG's, consensus that one or two would be included. Josh- thought BB might select cross-section of America population, guesses they have- two black people, one Asian, the rest white but with mixed ethnicity within that. more comments and recollections that i missed. this topic winds down. Eddie begins talking about blurry definition of racism, briefly mentions "is telling joke racist", etc. yes racist, no racist, etc. Cassandra questions Eddie- "We've talked before, and you've shared some jokes together, but let me ask you if you told black male a joke about black people, would he come back to you and tell a joke about a white person? I don't think so." George tosses in concern about Native Americans- "they really got the shaftola". Case in Wisconsin where Native Americans spear muskie (fish), state gave them their right as they had fished for "hundreds" of years, but the resorts tried to make it difficult because of scarce fishing. Debate in illinois about Indian chief mascot symbolizing Illinois sports team. Cass mentions similar Eddie- what about fighting Irish- with the little leprechaun! Cass- I don't know, c'mon Eddie, that's different- but I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. Brit- went to some native american cultural "thing" "with all her white friends" and it was "um, so neat" "I don't know" "but we don't have anything where we have all white things" but "it was so neat, you know, um". (Ok that's it- got carried away- guess this isn't a "short note" oh well, whatever!) (just want to mention, in case it was missed earlier- Eddie was on schools Mexican-American group, and told story I missed about helping to raise awareness and also helped raise money for basketball?) |
Whatever | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:11 pm  Cass just added- Eddie, we know you're open-minded, joking is just in fun" Eddie- "I don't associate with anyone who isn't open-minded" (prior discussion was Eddie about terms Ginuea(sp) and Ginzo(?)- one might be used derogatorily, but wasn't really taken that way, the other one was more derogatory.) |
Setsuna | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:19 pm  Eddie has got Britt to walk on his back to try to crack it. After trying for a while she gives up, with Eddie saying she's too light to do it. A minute or two later he picks her up of the red chair she was sitting on and tickles her until she cries "uncle" and "eddie is the greatest". The other guys are sitting on the coaches and encouraging Eddie while he tickles her. |
Timbo | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 10:36 pm  Cassandras : Curtis not only are you the lord of the dance, you're lord of the puzzle. Josh, George, Jamie, Cassandras, Curtis are working on the puzzle. George brags about getting two pieces together. Eddie and Josh are humming and singing. George: Sloshie is this you? Josh: Yes. George: I like that song. George: Black border. Cassandras: Thank you. Curtis: We got the important stuff put together, almost, me and Jamie. |
Tamtam01 | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:16 pm  Gonna post since no one has for a while. Not much has happened, the camera people are doing really weird things with the cameras. Moving them around in all directions, zooming in and out on Eddie and Brit, on the Los Angelas coffee mug. George wondered if Brit had completed "all of this" but it was Curtis's work (he had got up and away from the table for a second). Everyone's just doing funky talk at the table. The pug is barking at the cameras outside (you can hear her in the background).Eddie's going "Can you dig it?" |
Zoe | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:16 pm  F7-All feeds showing all HG at table doing puzzle. F4 - Talking about first night in house when they had to find the money in the garden. George & Eddie saying how they decided to wait until the morning to dig up the $$. Eddie talking about missing pieces of the puzzle. Eddie saying he thinks BB is holding back puzzle pieces. They are looking for red pieces that are missing Brit -they should go through buckets of pieces to make sure. Eddie planning something for Thursday - net congestion - (ed- I think to confront BB about missing pieces if there are any) Josh talking about pie eating contest and eating 3 1/2 pies and puking. They all laugh. George & Brit talking about drinking the tonic. Britt talking about the puzzle will be easier once they get part of it done. She thinks they will finish. Curtis thinks maybe the Pug might have eaten the missing red pieces. Jamie doesn't think that she could have eaten that many. George- could ask if they are all there? Eddie - Oh yeah , like they'll tell us. Pug is barking at something - I think she is outside. |
Zoe | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:34 pm  F1 - shows Josh, Eddie looking at pieces using coffee table next to dining table, George sorting pieces George - Curtis there is like one blue one missing? Curtis - Yeah, you'd think that one blue one would be visible (rest of conv is garbled) Hard to understand what they are all saying - different conversations going on, Brit & Jamie singing. Eddie singing Mrs Mary Mack , mack mack, had a heart attack...... Puzzle chat, singing. Pug has stopped barking. Switching feeds F7 Britt- It would be crappy if they held back pieces Josh - They wouldn't do that Eddie - They would too , I am missing like a dozen blue pieces Curits - are you sure Eddie - look here (Grr-Net Congestion - switching feeds) F1 Talking about Josh's sleep talking G - I didn't believe you to be honest with you Slosh (about talking in your sleep) Brit tells story about Josh talking in his sleep and she having a conversation with him. They all laugh. She thought he was awake. |
Zoe | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:42 pm  Talking about pieces missing. George asks Curtis if the piece he has is same blue he needs. (Ed -I guess he cant tell) Curtis - No, George - I will sort through the blue pieces then. Lots of laughing can't understand what they are saying.... (Ed- George is really having fun) He and Josh are talking about "cuddling" I think (someone help too much noise in there) George tells Slosh that he is a really good sport. Eddie is massaging Jamie shoulders. Brit tells everyone that she traded up from a foot massage last night to a back massage from Jamie . More puzzle talk. Movement in the house, switching to F7 |
Zoe | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 11:55 pm  F-7 everyone in kitchen again - Pug is back in the house - someone let her in. Brit spots a puzzle piece on the floor by Jamie. Jamie rescues it from the Pug. Ed still massaging Jamie's shoulders. George moving places - "sloshie I got your chair" Talking about what they were wearing for that picture, Karen white shirt, Eddie, black shirt. Something is working good for George Britt - George I want you to know ......I like you George - Thank-you, except for an airplane pilot (laughing) Britt (funny voice) - But he doesn't know you Britt talking to pug "down, down, down!", "where are the missing pieces?" (Pug doesn't answer) More puzzle talk. Sighing. Singing (Britt & Jamie) Josh - where did you guys get that song you keep singing? Eddie tells a joke he heard Gallagher tell about how stupid his cat was (couldn't catch it Curtis and Cass were talking) George- There are a lot of black pieces guys, a lot! Britt - Any edge pieces George - I've gone through them, I don't think so Britt - Look there aren't a lot of edge pieces. Curtis, Eddie, Cass, humming to themselves. Josh singing country. |
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