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Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 11:45 am Click here to edit this post

Josh keeps saying that Curtis doesn't need the money - and I fear that folks out here will be influenced by that thought and possibly vote Curtis out, or put him in a lesser category than the others if he makes top three.

I really hope that is not the criteria folks use when they vote. Otherwise, why have the contest AT ALL since we all have KNOWN from the beginning who needs the money most? CBS could have just GIVEN the money to the most needy!

This has been a contest from the start and each HG has added (or not added, as the case may be) to the entire experience, enlightenment, positive and negative of the BB house. We all have our favourites for whatever reason and I hope folks end up voting on that vs. the "who needs it most" criteria.

At the very LEAST, I'm hoping that Curtis does not get short-shafted yet again, this time based on his income potential that really has nothing to do with HIM as a PERSON. If one wanted to speculate on how much money one or another may make outside the house, they ALL have potential. Who knows what opportunities may arise due to fame and popularity? For that matter, Josh as an engineer will not be stuck making pennies, and if his teen popularity flares, HE could possibly be making big-bucks in some sort of entertainment field. Eddie could end up being in demand due to the handicapped aspect of his life (not to mention the personality factor) and Jamie could go belly-up because nobody wants her and therefore SHE might be the one most needy of the money. Is THAT how we really want it to go????

Naww... ignore the "needy" factor folks. We have come to know the HGs individually and the INDIVIDUAL should be the one who walks away with the grand prize.

Nance

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post

Well Curtis has played the game very well and should win !!!!!

Solos

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 11:54 am Click here to edit this post

You are so right Jake & Nance.I'd like to see Eddie take second place he has played the game too.
Curtis all the way,went all out in the game
Eddie takes 2nd or 3rd he is the next best hgs that played the game.

Watchers

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 11:59 am Click here to edit this post

Yeah, in fact if you use this criteria as Josh has done, then he should just leave the house altogether. With an engineering degree, he can move to Silicon Valley, work 20 hours a day and become a millionaire. He should have nominated himself every time.
If we adopt this criteria, then we should bring Karen and George back to the house. It's not a valid way to play the game.
Why not use the lazy, noncontributing aspect - ok, Jamie's out.

Poco

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis won't be voted out this time for sure. That's not what I worry about.
However, when people vote for the final 3 based on the need of money, Eddie will win.
People, Eddie will be gettin tons of offers after the show. Rosie for one. She is very geneous.
So, no sympathy vote plea...........se.

Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:02 pm Click here to edit this post

That's my order too, NANCE and SOLOS... Curtis first, Eddie second and the toss-up is between Josh and Jamie as they're interchangeable personalities to me. BUT, if I were to have to choose, I'd choose Jamie for third as Josh has been inconsistent, incomprehensible and frankly, just doesn't add or detract ANYTHING in the personalities. At least Jamie gets folks' blood running be it good or bad! *laughs*

I hesitate to put my "druthers" on this string as I don't want it to be taken as a "bash Josh, promote Curits" thread. I truly just want folks to really think about voting on merit rather than need.

Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:04 pm Click here to edit this post

*laughs* Wow.. WATCHERS and POCO... you popped in there while I was writing. I'm with you too!!!

Nance

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:09 pm Click here to edit this post

Jake, I agree it should be about merit, and Curtis has earned his way in this game...he is funny and contributes to every thing in the house and outside,challenges and all count on Curtis.
Same with Josh he seems to take it all on the cuff, where is Eddie shoots from the hip,complains at times but eventually does it.....I really want to see Curtis in it to win number one then Eddie , Josh or even Jamie fight it out in the publics votes for 2nd or 3rd.

Guitarman

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:12 pm Click here to edit this post

Let’s get some perspective on the need factor. None of the HG’s really NEED the money.

Starving and homeless people need the money. AIDS orphans in Africa need the money. I could go on but you get the idea.

For all the HG’s, the money will help people with relitively comfortable lives be a little more comfortable. That’s it.

Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:18 pm Click here to edit this post

*bows to the ADMIN folks* Sorry, I just noticed there was another NEED thread out there. Didn't see it when I started this one, but I STILL don't want CURTIS to get the short-shaft!

Absolutely, GUITARMAN.

Nikkid

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:20 pm Click here to edit this post

If this is based on merit - Eddie should win. He has actively and successfully pushed a charity (he askes that money towards banners go to NWBA) and Curtis has ruined a lot of chances for Josh by "outing" him with no confirmation. I know a lot of you will flame me, but check the threads, it is STILL being bandied about that Josh is gay.

Webtvlurker

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:36 pm Click here to edit this post

Jake, I respect your opinion but like I said on another thread, if you are a Curtis fan, the best thing you can do to sway people to your thinking that Curtis should be awarded the top prize money of $5000,000 is to list what you think his good points are. Arguing against the so called "pitty vote" will turn some off. This is a contest with a cash prize. I have seen a pattern on this board of mainly Curtis fans saying that the Big Brother contest is not about money. 1/2 MILLION dollars is to most people a life altering amount which cannot be ignored. Curtis is almost 30 years old. He's had an elegant and well rounded education that is paid for. He has been working in his choosen profession for a number of years with lucrative rewards. Curtis has said numerous times he does not need the money. Curtis has also said over and over that he wanted to participate in Big Brother for the experience. He has said that he has enjoyed this experience so much he would be willing to participate in BB2. Curtis has said he is just happy to have made it this far. If you believe Curtis is an honest person then you have to belive what he says. I sincerely don't believe Curtis would feel as though he was "gettin the shaft" with 3rd place. If you feel that Curtis is kind and caring then you must realize he would feel "bad" about taking 1/2 million dollars from his friends who he knows need it more. The FACT is that there is $650,000 dollars to be split up three ways between 3 friends. Josh and Eddie have expressed a desire for it, Curtis has not. Maybe he is smarter than you even know. Maybe he does not want to be perceived as the cold hearted rich lawyer guy who swoops into this contest and wins it hands down because because he has a smoother life, less baggage to deal with. I, for one don't believe the test of a winner is the one who sailed through the game the easiest. Please don't blame your frustrations on Josh (not on my Joshy!) Curtis is the one who has many times put out the information on his lofty salary expectaions within the next couple of years. He's not stupid, I think he did it for a reason!

Britisnaive

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 02:40 pm Click here to edit this post

Webtvlurker,

I get your point completely.

However, one shouldn't determine "need" based on presnet facts.

So, Eddie has "pressing" need for money. However, Curtis' parents will retire one day and they will need money then. Josh's niece will go to college and he will need money then.

Also, don't assume Curtis will go on to be a lawyer. Maybe he wants to be a starving actor for a while and wait for the big opportunity to come up.

Maybe Eddie will become the highest paid inspirational speaker in the US.

You just never know what will happen.

Alpine

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 03:32 pm Click here to edit this post

Curtis does not know that he has a lot of supporters. All he knows is that he has been nominated almost everytime since the second round and that his AOL popularity poll (back then) was the lowest among all the HGs. Anyone in such a precarious position knows better than to give out any impression that he is greedy! He also has to fight the stereotypical belief that lawyers are selfish and greedy. What would happen if he said that he needed the money? Many audience will grab the chance immediately to say: "Lawyers and always be lawyers, selfish and greedy."

Curtis, having been raised in an emotionally repressed family, is too familiar with repressing his own wants and needs. Surely he wants and needs the money. He did say that if he won, it would mean that he did not have a be a lawyer and that he could be a public servant. I personally think that he is not mean enough to be a lawyer and that he will most likely change his profession if given the chance.

Fenixtx

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 03:57 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree, the winner should be determined by the events that happen in the house, not the HG's financial situation prior to the game. Otherwise the entire game was pointless. If financial need will be the determining factor, the money should have been given to the most pathetic HG's (Eddie) from the start. It is unfair to the other HG's who spent all summer in the house under the pretense that some how they may win the grand prize. I know some of you will argue that most of them said that they were in for the experience rather than the money. This is true, however if any of the other HG's had admitted to being there just to win as Eddie did, they'd most likely already be out of the house and most definitely targeted as a selfish individual by the bloodthirsty public. I'm kind of surprised that Endemol didn't realize that by adding a crippled individual to the group, it would give that individual an unfair advantage over the others. This is no longer just game show. It has become a charity of sorts, with the American public deciding who should get the grand prize. A waste of time for everyone involved from the players to the viewers.

Webrover9

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 04:22 pm Click here to edit this post

That is only Josh's opinion which doesn't mean a thing to me. Curtis deserves the big prize because he has earned it. Josh has voted for Curtis practically every time for the same dumb reason. I do know that Josh doesn't deserve it!

Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 06:59 pm Click here to edit this post

WEBTVLURKER -

Frankly, I don't believe ANY of them would turn down the money regardless of "BB experience". And even tho' Curtis has expressed his financial situation openly, I still believe he's deserving of the grand prize money. I've stated, and have seen stated all over this board, Curtis' good points and therefore don't feel the need to do so again. AND, the point of this discussion was not to argue in favour of Curtis and/or against Josh, but to argue that "need" should not be the ONLY criteria. Else, as FENIXTX said above, "the entire game would be pointless".

Jake

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 07:01 pm Click here to edit this post

However... I'm REALLY glad to see all the CURTIS supporters!!!

And yeah, sorry... but Joshie CAN leave in my opinon! *grin*

Jade888

Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 07:05 pm Click here to edit this post

I think that CUrtis wins the money he would be able to do some pro bono work like he stated earlier. TO do pro bono you still need the cash for filing fees and expenses.

Curtis, Eddie and than Jamie or Josh

Grag

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:29 am Click here to edit this post

I would never vote for Curtis. He don't need the money. And who said people shouldn't consider need? You consider what you want and I'll consider what I want.

You vote how you like and I'll vote how I like.

Don't you tell me how to vote and I won't tell you how to vote.

My grandfather died at Pearl Harbor defending this country and his death gives you and me alike the right to vote how we like in this country.

Vote for Curtis? Not likely.

Ocean_Island

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 12:20 am Click here to edit this post

Curtis does need the money. Who wouldn't?

Jake

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 01:35 am Click here to edit this post

GRAQ -

You think what you want, I'll think what I want. You say what you want, I'll say what I want.

It doesn't mean one cannot have a discussion on it.

Vote as you will.

Curious

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:31 am Click here to edit this post

Winning BB would be just another notch on his belt for Curtis, so I'm not inclined to vote for him. I'd rather see Eddie, Josh or even Jamie win it. They would appreciate and value the victory more and the money too. The way I see it, this was a walk in the park for him. The only real personal challenge Curtis faced was being amongst the first to be nominated after Will and Jordan were banished. I remember the look of shock on his face. It was only then that he decided to start to open up a bit. I'd rather award people for their performance in the house based on the degree of difficulty it presented to them.

The viewing audience was not asked to vote based on a certain criteria. We can vote based on whatever reason we want and no doubt each of us will...no matter who played the best, needs it most, we simply like, etc etc

Whatever

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 02:33 am Click here to edit this post

Curious- "I'd rather award people for their performance in the house based on the degree of difficulty it presented to them."

According to that criteria, you would select George to win. Did you?

Britisnaive

Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 07:41 am Click here to edit this post

Grag,

I applaud your grandfather for fighting at Pearl Harbor. However, I doubt he fought for you to vote in BB.

BTW, do you know federal DAs are there to protect the rights of the public, as earned by your grandfather?