Jamie is Tracy Flick from "Election"

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2dweyes

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 11:16 am Click here to edit this post

IF you want to know why most of us with brains can't stand Jamie go rent the wonderful movie Election starring Matthew Broderick and Reese Witherspoon. Not only is it a great movie but you will see how all of us see Jamie. She resembles (not in appearence but in personality) Reese Witherspoons character Tracy Flick. Of course Election is a dark comedy so the character is exagerrated but this is how I view Jamie. Every school in America has one of these overachieving, brown nosing, self centered, insecure, mommys girls, who annoys the hell out of everybody except the girls who are also like her and the guys who are so blinded by her beauty (ha) that they are too dumb to see her how the rest of us do (see Curtis and Josh). Ok, now I'm getting a little bit away from the character in Election but you will get the idea. If anyone else is familiar with this movie let me know if you see the comparrisons.

Katie

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 11:28 am Click here to edit this post

Oh I get it now. Jeolous!

2dweyes

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 11:37 am Click here to edit this post

I guess you haven't seen the movie. It's a good movie but might be a little over your head. Anyway, I'm a guy so I wouldn't be jealous of Jamie. At first I found her attractive but after seeing more of her and her personality, I find her ugly. And I am talking more of her as a person then her physical appearence. I have had many girlfriends more attractive and cooler then Jamie. However I have encountered my fair share of girls like Jamie (mainly in Sororitys at Univ. Of Miami) where I went to school). I don't find them appealing at all. Give me Colleen or Jenna from Survivor over 10 Jamies any day. Hell give me Brit or Jorday over Jamie. Someone who can at least express individuality and some character depth. To sum this up, no I am not jealous of Jamie. If anything, I feel sorry for her. And I don't "hate" her either. I find her pathetic and warranted of my sympathy if she hadn't come on TV and make a good show boring just to further her star potential.

Kavman

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 11:50 am Click here to edit this post

Jealous??
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
That is some funny shit
Btw you spelled it wrong
I've seen parts of election, will try to watch it again
Think it's on one of the movie channels
Katie
Tell us why you would like jaiME
Hmmmmm i can't think of 1 darn reason
LOL
Btw you are from Seatle right?
This is not a guess, I've seen a post of yours that makes me say this

Katie

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:08 pm Click here to edit this post

Actually I don't like or dislike her. She is not one of my favorites. Actually I have a hard time having a favorite. I even feel sorry for George even thought I don't want him to win. What is strange to me is all of the intense hatred of a person we have never really met in the outside world. I don't like hatred. That is my issue. It doesn't matter who it is that is hatred, I will feel badly for anyone who is hated this much. I find all of the houseguests multi-faceted. I see good and bad in all of them and it bother me that people are being inconsistent here. They call her two-faced for nominating Karen and then being nice to her but everyone of the houseguests do it every time. They don't stop being nice to the ones that they nominate. Why is it that when Jamie does something it is because he is evil and when others do it, it is so easy to excuse? I see a girl who has a lot of growing up to do. I see a girl who wears a lot of make up. I see a girl who needs to learn a few things but I don't see someone worthy of the hate she is getting. Hatred scares me because of where it sometimes leads.

Therat

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:18 pm Click here to edit this post

saw election - yes in ways jamie reminds me of tracy flick - has the wool pulled over the boys eyes

Ricmunoz

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:18 pm Click here to edit this post

You omitted a crucial aspect of Tracy's power. Jamie does not currently have, nor does she appear to have ever had, SEX. Tracy wielded some of her strongest power by using her "off-limits" body. Has Jamie even mentioned having a boyfriend??

Sasha

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:21 pm Click here to edit this post

I have seen that movie also. But for a different take on the "moral"...
Matthew's character did not like Tracy because she slept with his best friend and she was an overachiever. He felt that she succeeded in everything she tried and she never did experience failure. This bothered him because he was in the same job and marriage for 17 years and probably never reached his full potential. So instead of trying to reach his own goals he became obsessed in squashing Tracy's aspirations. BTW Tracy ended up being a success in her career. JMO

2dweyes

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:30 pm Click here to edit this post

I don't remember Tracy being a success. I thought that was the final joke. She ended up working on someones campaign in D.C. or something. Far short of her lofty aspirations of being the first female president or whatever. She didn't turn out to be a bum on the street. She was doing all right but not the fame she wanted. I imagine JaiME will turn out the same way. Not a failure, but not living up to the lofty goals she set for herself. JaiME has said she want to be a icon for young woman or some such nonsence. Somehow, I don't see her reaching that goal. If she does then armaggedon is coming.

Frostilicus

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:35 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with 2dweyes, she IS Tracey Flick with a touch of Nicole Kidman in "To Die For".

George is so dry.

Sasha

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:40 pm Click here to edit this post

2dweyes - I guess we have differing opinions about the film. It seemed to me that after seeing Tracy in the limo some years later, Matthew's character was still obsessed. He threw the drink at the car and ran. It also seemed that Tracy was still quite young and on the path to her ultimate goal. I thought Matthew's obsession was the final joke. Once again JMO. :)

Ycp

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:40 pm Click here to edit this post

2dweyes - It is so weird that you started this thread! I rented and watched Election last night for the first time but fell asleep watching it. I finished watching it this morning. I immediately came to BBFC (about 9:00am PST) to see if anyone else had made the connection between Tracy Flick and Jaime. I did a word search of "Election", "Reese Witherspoon", "Tracy Flick", and "Jaime reminds me of." Nothing came up. I was surprised! And then I come back a couple hours later and da da! There it is. So thank you and yes, I see it too.

BTW I thought the movie was hilarious.

Ricmunoz

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post

Ycp: I love the first four words of your post, 'it is so weird.' Could you have been influenced by.....Satan? Oops, wrong show!

Dianali

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 12:58 pm Click here to edit this post

I've seen the movie a couple times and I don't see Jamie in Tracy. Those who do, clearly don't see Jamie the way I do. I see her as someone who is ambitious yet does not have a win-at-any-cost mentality. (Jamie would never tear down a rival's posters.) Jamie is somewhat of a fatalist. Tracy, on the other hand, felt her destiny was something she could and would control.

Tracy was a success at the end of the movie, working amongst the powerful and clearly upwardly mobile herself.

Chuck3049

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 01:31 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree. I had noticed the similarity a few days ago when "Election" was playing on cable.

Cinwagon

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 06:27 pm Click here to edit this post

I TOTALLY see the comparison! It's been so long since I've seen the movie, I never would have made the connection if you hadn't pointed it out. TOOOO FUNNY!!!

BTW... "Election" was filmed in my old high school. Got to watch them film a couple of outdoor scenes.

Ohjohnny

Sunday, September 17, 2000 - 06:38 pm Click here to edit this post

2dweyes-- I agree with Sasha and Dianali-- that you misread the end of the film. Tracey was indeed a success, and even though all of the characters suffered moral ambiguity, the final joke of the film was on Matthew Broderick's character. He was the bigger "loser," IMO. (Although there probably really weren't any "winners" in the complex world of Election). Think about the ending again-- she's in a limo with Washington's elite and he runs like a coward, back to his tiny basement apartment in NYC.