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Archive through September 23, 2000
Scully | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:21 pm  Please. Put it out of our misery. |
Annah | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:22 pm  RUSS is so right! The thread should end when people run out of things to say....on thais thread that actually happened about 200 posts ago! However, some are so consumed with the domestic violence topic that they just wanted to keep repeating the same points over and over again! I will not post here again. THIS TOPIC IS DONE> (the only thing accomplished: 36 votes to banish Jamie) |
Twofacedjamie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:24 pm  LOL Eddieluver. This thread is hilarious. |
Chris | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:29 pm  Katie: I don't think it's censorship if it's up for a vote. I vote YES! |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:29 pm  you have made it clear ad nauseum to all that , like Jamie, the only opinions you believe relevant are your own. Then you are misreading me. But that comes as no surprise. Your opinions have consisted mainly of bemoaning the length of this thread and figuratively threatening to hold your breath until you turn blue if it doesn't stop. That is fine. Carry on. |
Jujubean | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:31 pm  Jay0mck: "Did he hit her? Did he throw her to the ground? Did he actually clothesline her? or was it just Eddie goofin around? Good grief!!!" Creamynougat: "If he put a loaded gun to her head but did not pull the trigger, would that be okay?" ************************************************ Creamynougat:Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 07:22 am "Bare hands can be as lethal as any weapon, especially if the attacker is physically overpowering as Eddie is. Now, my comment about the loaded gun was simply in response to someone who made the point that Eddie did not follow through on his threat and therefore did nothing wrong. If it is unacceptable to threaten someone with a loaded gun, it should be equally unacceptable to threaten someone with other potentially lethal weapons (bare hands)." I KNOW what your comment was in response to Creamynougat. So then, are you saying that Eddie was "threatening" Jamie with his potentially lethal "bare hands"? How can you even equate these two- A loaded gun pointed to Jamie's head and this incident, how do you correlate the two?! Then, you say, in another post. Creamynougat: Friday, September 22, 2000 - 07:36 am "Yet the young woman should have spoken up if she felt uncomfortable. He may have crossed the line but she must also take some responsibility for setting her own personal boundaries." And you say another post: Creamynougat:"Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 06:42 am Of course Eddie didn't mean to harm anyone. But he does exercise poor judgement, IMO, knowing full well that he is constantly in the public eye." Creamynougat: Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 02:38 pm "I have yet to see anyone claim that Eddie seriously intended to do bodily harm to Jamie. This is another straw man and beside the point." What is THIS referring to then?: Katie: Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:39 pm "Whatever I agree with you! That is what others aren't seeing. It is not just playing around since he doesn't do it with Curtis or Josh but only with Jamie. It is so easy to just dismiss it. No one ever suspected what was going with my husband for years. Everyone thought he was just a sweet man. Until I fell down those stairs and couldn't cover for him any more because I was unconscious." So I'm a little confused here Creamy....What are you saying? And the straw that broke the camels back: Creamynougat: Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 06:42 am "I guess it's more exciting to toss basketballs through a hoop" Now you are knocking basketball????!!!!!! Well, if you are referring to the fact that maybe you are not a basketball fan and perhaps don't like the sport of basketball. Prepare to be FLAMED BY BASKETBALL FANS as well! LOL... Seriously, I think it is very commendable what Eddie has managed to do as an athlete and a basketball player. He’s even spoken of his Olympic aspirations. Whatever: Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:27 pm "If it was an act of "sexuality", Jamie and Brit would show their enjoyment, respond with consent and encourage the behavior further. Didn't happen. Physical aggression towards weaker females is both cowardly and a sign of hostility and dominance." Again, wrong and not a FACT. Especially on Brittany's part. Brittany would jump on Eddie, tease him and goad him on. Whatever: Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 06:42 am "Jujubean, It's questionable how you could demonstrate more ignorance about this topic.The fact is, based upon Eddie's observed behavior, it is possible, and, in fact, more reasonable than not, to make conclusions that, yes, it is highly unacceptable. " It's interesting to see what you think is unacceptable Whatever, as you said in a previous post: Whatever: Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 08:58 pm " It's only fun when both participants consent and are enjoying themselves that it is actually "fun". Otherwise, it's harassment, at best, or, quite possibly in many cases, something worse. Apparently, a lot of you Eddie supporters are from somewhat dysfunctional family environments. Such behavior is not "play"." It may be highly unacceptable to you- therefore you chose to simply make conclusions and assumptions about Eddie's background and personality as well as MINE AND OTHERS ON THIS BOARD???!!!!THAT, Whatever is UNACCEPTABLE. Whatever: Thursday, September 21, 2000 - 11:37 pm " So far in this thread I think Katie and Deni San are the only posters informed about this topic, and we are all in agreement saying basically the same thing." Hmmmm....Very interesting.........Only INFORMED posters.....hmmmm.... Sorry for the long post, but I hope ALL of the FACTS, including these...... speak for themselves. |
Curtandeddie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:37 pm  I applaud you for your post Jujibean. Very well thought out, and it made sense unlike your 'opponent'. Hats off to ya. There is now a new thread regarding this thread. Lol. |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:51 pm  Good post, Jujubean. Even though we may disagree at least you're addressing the topic. So then, are you saying that Eddie was "threatening" Jamie with his potentially lethal "bare hands"? How can you even equate these two- A loaded gun pointed to Jamie's head and this incident, how do you correlate the two?! Very easy. The fact that Eddie did not carry out his "threats" does not excuse his behavior (as someone earlier argued). What difference does it make whether Eddie threatened bodily harm with his bare hands or a loaded gun? Either could be lethal. My point was to amplify the inherent wrongness of his actions by replacing his bare hands with a different -- perhaps more threatening -- weapon. It's just a matter of degree. As for your other points, you've taken liberties with quoting out of context so I won't get into all that. I did not read Katie's statement to mean that she believed that Eddie was seriously intending to physically harm Jamie, but I could be wrong. Otherwise, I don't see any inconsistencies in my position. We simply disagree. |
Koka | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 03:59 pm  If you don't want to continue the conversation, by all means pass this thread up and move on to one you find more interesting. No need to continually stop by and tell everyone who's still here to shut up.I don't think the topic ought to be closed if people want to continue to discuss it, but we do seem to have examined it from all angles I can think of. And no one has changed anyone else's minds. We all come at it with our own pasts--whether we grew up in a rough and tumble household where bruises were as affectionate as kisses to the other extreme, growing up in a household where a harsh word or an insult was deemed the same breach as a physical assault. |
Bigbroho | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:00 pm  HEY JADE888, I WANNA CLOTHESLINE YA, YA MAN-HATER! YEAH, I WANNA CLOTHESLINE YA!! LOL |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:01 pm  Jujubean- I made the statement: Physical aggression towards weaker females is both cowardly and a sign of hostility and dominance. You dispute it and state it is not a "FACT". Thereby, you suggest that physical aggression is both courageous and a sign of kindness and submission. Further, you state "Brittany would jump on Eddie, tease him and goad him on." But you conveniently ignore her admonishments to Eddie, requests that he stop, and remorse at the bruises and contusions she unwillingly received. Jamie never engaged in such activity, while you infer that both did, "especially Brittany". Your ridiculous arguments are severely flawed. I stated: "The fact is, based upon Eddie's observed behavior, it is possible, and, in fact, more reasonable than not, to make conclusions that, yes, it is highly unacceptable." That remains completely true. It is completely undeniable, except to those in denial. |
Donnalea | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:01 pm  1. They're both not in jail, only he is. 2. In survey after survey it has been proven that women will hit or kick a man FIRST, then if the guy hits or kicks back, the woman will call police. 3. Jamie out-weighs Eddie by at LEAST a leg and could probably kick his ass 4. Eddie was joking around in the way most laid-back, easy going guys would kid each other. 5. Ya'll are too uptight and I'd hate to be ya. |
Bigbroho | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:03 pm  Why don't some of you whining old bags ask JaiME if she thought Eddie was just joking with her or really threatening her. Man-haters all of ya! |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:05 pm  I won't predict what any Eddie fanatics will do, but at what point will someone post: 1. That they find Eddie's behavior acceptable, 2. That they are proud of Eddie for his behavior, 3. and that they encourage Eddie to do more of it. |
Katie | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:06 pm  I did not read Katie's statement to mean that she believed that Eddie was seriously intending to physically harm Jamie, but I could be wrong. No, I didn't think he intended to physically harm her. |
Eddieluver | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:08 pm  Psst. I just found out that Eddie is actually the devil incarnate himself coming back in the form of a one-legged man who beats on dogs and women and has the nickname poohbear. It's all a cover and us Eddie lovers are falling for it completely. Wow, I was told Armageddon was coming, but would have thought that the BB show would be the one to feature such a thing. NOTE: Just trying to add a little humor and realization that this thread has gone beyond overboard. |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:13 pm  Why don't some of you whining old bags ask JaiME if she thought Eddie was just joking with her or really threatening her. I think virtually everyone is in agreement that Eddie was not serious. This has never been the main concern. Jamie out-weighs Eddie by at LEAST a leg and could probably kick his ass You are kidding, right? Ya'll are too uptight and I'd hate to be ya. LOL. |
Ladykat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:29 pm  If Eddie hadn't did something so stupid we wouldn't be talking about this now would we ?? I have enjoyed reading all the post about this. Some I agree with, some I don't. But I have a problem with people trying to silence people's opinion. Everyone have a right to their opinion. If you don't agree with it fine. But stop trying to silence people that's WRONG! And attacking people is WRONG ! Remember we live in a free country not a communist state ! I like Eddie but will not defend his actions. This stupid stunt he did may very well cost him the money ! This really did offend a lot of people, who only watch the show on tv. People that don't post here, and people that don't watch the live feeds. I think this have be a good dicussion, even if you don't agree with everything everyone is saying. FREEDOM OF SPEECH RULES !!! |
Bigbroho | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:32 pm  MOooooooooooo! That's how I answer whining old cows. Moooooooooooooo! Now stand back or I will clothesline ya!!! LOL |
Creamynougat | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:39 pm  Moooooooooooooo! Ah, the mating call of Bigbroho.
20 minutes 'til showtime, BBFans.... |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:54 pm  Moderator- Please delete inappropriate Bigbroho posts. |
Whatever | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:56 pm  If awareness was increased, or someone will suffer less in their lives as a result of something learned here, then this discussion will have been worthwhile. |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 04:59 pm  Bigbroho: Hey, I leave for an hour to do my show and wow...if you really mean what you say than put your email on the board so we can notify the authorities. Remeber someday it could be one of your family members. You have a right to an opinion but so do we...and of you can not agree to disagree than obviousley you come from little or no substance when you attack and threaten woman in such a manner. |
Bigbroho | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 05:16 pm  Oh Jade, YOu are such a loser. It was a joke. Just like Eddie was joking with Jamie. But you consider this a threat? Holy smokes. You are a sick puppy....oops, I mean a sick.... what do they call a female dog???? |
Jade888 | Saturday, September 23, 2000 - 05:22 pm  You can call me anything you want...I have a beautiful home, a beautiful family with son's sho would never ever threaten another woman as they have their emotions in check...like I said karma will stike back in one way or another. Maybe you find the behavior acceptable but I as an adult, a wife...not a man hater...and a mother and most of all a human being I find the behavior unacceptable. GOOD LUCK TO YOU! |
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