Archive through September 14, 2000

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Suziebird7

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 11:35 am Click here to edit this post

From Jamie: Mother comes first
From George: Follow your dream, (there *may* be money in the garden!)
From Josh: If you want to be loved and admired, save a small animal
From Curtis: Sometimes good things *do* come to good people
From Eddie: F*ck it!

What about you?

Battlestar

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 11:52 am Click here to edit this post

From Britt--Too much Glitter and Hairdye make you a target

Gottaluvit

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:01 pm Click here to edit this post

jamie-- education does come first
josh-- having intelligence does not mean they
have common sense.
curtis--chinese guys can be pretty cute and
lawyers are not all evil.
eddie-- always think before you speak
george-- you can take the man out of the country
but cant take the country out of the man
(dont get mad, i am a country girl)
cass-- boring and pentup can be mistaken for class
jordan-- strippers are self-centered
will-- hate doesnt always come from the people
the media says it comes from
karen-- i am happy i enjoy my independence and
space or i could be in the same situation
brit-- pink hair, piercings, may mean insecure
like i suspected

Deni_San

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:41 pm Click here to edit this post

"cass-- boring and pentup can be mistaken for class"

Wow! How wrong you are!

Gottaluvit

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:45 pm Click here to edit this post

i know a girl who at work who comes off as classy, but after watching real class from cassandra on bb, the girl at work is actually
just boring and pent up.

am i still wrong?

Delia

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:51 pm Click here to edit this post

Gottaluvit wrote: curtis--chinese guys can be pretty cute and lawyers are not all evil.


I *don't think* Curtis would refer to himself as a "Chinese guy." Curtis was born in the States, not in Asia, to my knowledge. I believe he would say he's Asian-American. Hope this helps.

Dortega

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:56 pm Click here to edit this post

What's wrong with saying 'Im Chinese' vs. 'Im Asian-American'?

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 12:59 pm Click here to edit this post

Because he's not Chinese. Nor, I believe, are his parents. They were born in America. I do not consider myself Russian, nor are my parents, though several of my grandparents were. Why can't people be proud to call themselves Americans?

Dortega

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Rufusgriswold: What do u mean he's not Chinese? He is American because he's born here. So what's the diff by saying he's Chinese/Asian-American? I dont see any difference!

Whatever

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post

Folks, all your criticism of Gottaluvit's post proves is that you're incapable of posting something original and related to the topic of this discussion.

Noslonna

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post

I thought of something I learned in life each time a HG was banished:

Cassandra: You can be true to your beliefs and keep your dignity by just being yourself.
Brittany: You can be emotional and like attention and still make others feel happy and loved.
Karen: You have to admit there are problems and talk about them before you find a solution.
Jordan: Your values, morals, and ethics may determine your behavior, but too often they are compromised to justify actions.
William: You have two choices in life, you can be first or last.

Gottaluvit

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:06 pm Click here to edit this post

i had asian on my post at first but changed it because i am not sure how it would be worded. i knew someone would try to pick me apart.
i lived with a chinese girl from america in college and she went by chinese. that is why i chose chinese. should chinese restaurants be called asian-american restaurant, if they are in american and the people that own it were born in america?? For some reason, i do not really see Curtis minding which way it is put. But Curtis is open-minded. So, i will leave it as is, considering i was giving him a compliment.

Dortega

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:10 pm Click here to edit this post

Everybody: I was reacting to Delia's comments. Nothing to do with Gottaluvit at all!

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:10 pm Click here to edit this post

My point, Dortega, is that it should not be necessary to preface "American" with anything. America is a melting pot of all nationalities and races. It seems to me that racism will only end once we have all learned to think of ourselves as one people. What could be more racist, for example, than telling a "white" woman that she is "black" simply because one grandparent was "black." And yet, in this country, a single drop of blood can make you so, whether or not you want that distinction. We are what we want to be, and judging people by race alone is simply stupid. I know there are others who strongly disagree, but unlike the HGs, I'm not afraid to express my opinion. And that's my two bucks.

Dortega

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:22 pm Click here to edit this post

but why would a full blooded Chinese be ashamed to say he's chinese (from what delia is assuming)? just because he lives in the usa? what's wrong with saying 'hi, im curtis, im chinese'? this is dont understand.

Suziebird7

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:27 pm Click here to edit this post

From Pugita: You don't have to be beautiful to loved.

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:28 pm Click here to edit this post

Because Chinese is a nationality, not a race. Curtis is American. His ethnicity is Asian. I am Caucasian and American. I am not a Russian -- I have never been to Russia, nor have my parents. To insist that Curtis is Chinese means that if the Chinese go to war with the U.S., Curtis must fight for them. That's as stupid as imprisoning hundreds of thousands of "Japanese-Americans" during WWII. Most of those people were born and raised in the U.S. and yet when war came they were treated like the enemy. We didn't have German-American or Italian-American internment camps. Why? Because of physical differences only. That's racism, when the issue was really nationalism.

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:31 pm Click here to edit this post

And for those who question if this subject line is on-topic, I think it is. Big Brother has dealt with questions of race, and learning from the show is what this thread is all about.

Rollerboy

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:32 pm Click here to edit this post

Will Mega: Black men, especially outspoken black men, are always targets in a white society.

Jordan: "Exotic Dancers" lose some of their appeal when they come down off the stage and start talking.

Karen: Hysterical head cases really stand out in a small crowd.

Britt: Hysterical, clinging vine, drama queens are best taken in small doses from a great distance. Really stand out in smaller crowd.

Cass: Black women last longer than black men and nuts.

Eddie: Doing more on one leg than a lot of people do with two may not be something people want to be reminded of six days a week.

Curtis: If you're ever prosecuted in Federal Court pray Curtis gets the case.

Josh: Run, don't walk, when approached by women with affected accents and/or pink/green/blue hair.

Jamie: If you are driven/ambitious and self centered you might want to avoid unscripted speaking on national tv programs.

George: If you are an evil genius perpetuating a plan that would put Dr. NO to shame, don't use doofus from Rockford, Ill as cover identity.

Cackyh

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:34 pm Click here to edit this post

from bbfc: give people a forum, and they will argue over just about anything.

Dortega

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:37 pm Click here to edit this post

so rufusgriswold, it is wrong then for curtis to say 'im chinese'...because by saying such, he's being a racist?

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Dortega, I was participating in a philosophical discussion. Curtis is free to call himself anything he pleases. Okay.

Suziebird7

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Not to be rude, but any chance you could take the race discussion to another thread so we can continue the lessons learned thread here?

Rufusgriswold

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:53 pm Click here to edit this post

I'm done. :)

Mjji

Thursday, September 14, 2000 - 01:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Wowza! Good to see the George/Anti-George, Jaime/Anti-jME threads aren't the only nitpicky ones! ;-)

Rufusgriswold, good point in distinguishing nationality vs race.

Having said that, isn't the wording that "chinese guys can be pretty cute" a little more implying that in certain perceptions, Chinese guys are generally not attractive? Don't jump at me! I know fully well that Gottaluvit said it fully with good intentions.

This would lead me to say that one of the important things I've not necessarily learned from BB, but now have a stronger belief in, is that semantics is an extremely important factor in communication.