Is there a sympathy factor operating here?
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Is there a sympathy factor operating here?
Curtismaximus | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:47 am  i wouldn't be surprised if the bars in austin texas voted for eddie. they probably paid thousands of dollars for calls knowing that they'll their money back next week.
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Fenixtx | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:58 am  I think that after this has all blown over, there are going to be some people that will regret the criteria that they used for voting. |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:25 am  Fenixtx: What do you mean? |
Brutus | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 05:39 am  Eddie lives his life in a way that makes you forget about his leg. Sympathy because he's missing a leg......no. Admiration of how he lives without his leg.......Yes! I will admit there have been times when he has said something that has tugged at my heartstrings for example when they were doing the headline challenge and he in repsonse to finding out about the nude photos on the internet said "I hope you put me on a two legged body" I can't help it. That to me was something that he may have just blurted out but it gave me a measure of some of his pain that he had masked before. |
Leef57 | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 12:59 pm  I'm afraid the answer is "Yes". |
Leef57 | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:01 pm  Forgot to say I don't agree with that! |
Ocean_Islands | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:12 pm  Maybe the reason he swears so much and burps so much is so you won't pay attention to his missing leg. |
Lucinda | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:14 pm  It's not a sympathy factor--it's an empathy factor. People can relate to Eddie. People can relate to Curtis, and Josh too. Apparently, many of the other hgs people just couldn't feel that same level of affection for. Comparing Curtis and Eddie, I feel more pity for Curtis--just because of that sad story about never being hugged as a kid or being told he was loved. I also felt sorry for George when he couldn't spell MA. I felt sorry for Karen when she was acting out so much. But feeling sorry for them made me want to vote them out, not keep them around. |
Whimbrel | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:17 pm  I have sympathy for Eddie and what he has been through. Is that wrong? Should I be unsympathetic to cancer survivors? |
Spartanchan | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:32 pm  His leg has nothing to do with it. In a way, he was mini-George. He wanted to win the money to put his brother through school (George his daughter). He wanted to win to give money to his parents who have worked so hard and been through so much (George a layman working stiff). Eddie's strategy all along was to make sure he was compassionate and sympathetic to others so he would get sympathy from the voting public. In fact, remember how he was busted by Karen and Britney, for saying he would take in Jordon. After he was called on it, he basically trashed her everytime they reminised. It's all been a well orchestrated act to win. I'm not buying. The true character of all these characters will be a year or two from now if they do a "Big Brother, where are they now." |
Renee | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:38 pm  I think that's a factor and CBS set it up that way. This show has been as overproduced as the Olympics. They started with caricatures; we had "the conniving stripper, the angry young black man, the tough guy amputee with a heart of gold", etc. and people bought into it. When they Didn't - BB would bring it up. Remember the last noinations when they questioned both Curtis and Jamie, asking "shouldn't Need be a factor?" or something along those lines? I know that Eddie's mom said he didn't want any votes based on sympathy - but then I was very surprised reading the live feeds how many times he brought up his condition himself over the last week or so. If he truly didn't want that to be a factor I wondered, why the constant reminders? I didn't vote at all. I think that CBS can pay this prize money from the advertizer revenues. Why should I pay? I wonder how much they've actually brought in with this 900#. |
Lucinda | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:43 pm  Perhaps some people are incapable of viewing Eddie without constantly thinking that he is missing a leg. Personally, more htan once, I have seen Eddie stand up and been surprised to be reminded that he has only one leg. I don't feel sorry for Eddie, I really don't. If he were a student in one of my classes, I would love it--I think his mind is inquisitive and he is opinionated and interesting. I just think of his leg when I think of him. It is not that often that someone as young as Eddie has had the depth of experience he has had (I think Josh in another example as well). And I really appreciate his views. Once again, compared to others in the house, Eddie's "handicap" just doesn't impress me as all that pathetic. |
Kearie | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:44 pm  Wood-- I respect your opinion, but I don't want to hear it because it is wrong! hehehe "He is the type of guy no one really likes, they only feel sorry for him and put up with his attitude because they feel sorry for him." This staement is wrong, I actually like the guy and it has nothing to do with sympathy. I doubt Monika is dating him on sympathy either. People do like him. He is missing a leg...so f*ckin' what? He is sincere and honest, not to mention one mighty sexy man. He lacks manners on the show, but I would suspect that in serious situations he also knows how to behave in a respectable manner. I find him admirable in his basketball and in the smpathy he can give others. If you want to feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for me. I deserve it since I'm mentally ill. Gosh, I never thoght the only reason I have friends is because they feel sorry for me. WOW!!! Time for me to go crawl in a corner and feel sorry for myself. Nobody loves me. Everybody hates me. I'm gonna go eat worms.  |
Zappre | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:54 pm  What a black and white world we live in. It's all about sympathy and he's pathetic otherwise. No, I didn't even notice the missing leg, he's just a great paragon of virtue. How about: He's a complex, fascinating individual with varying degrees of compassion, hate, love, disgust, warmth, venom, self-assuredness, self-pity, pride, hubris, anger, gentility, etc. Enough with the "box them into a one-dimensional TV character mentality" cause our brains can't handle actual humanity. Will he get a sympathy vote? Of course. Is that the ONLY reason people will vote for him? Of course not. |
Lucinda | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:59 pm  Let's see, Brittany told Eddie he was HOT. HOT HOT. After she was banished, she gushed about what a great guy he was, and how much fun they had, going so far as to tear up as she watched them do their little "DON'T BE STOOPID" thing. George LOVED Eddie and thought he had an amazing heart, even AFTER Eddie nominated him. Josh and Eddie have bonded in a way that is pretty amazing. Almost an unspoken kinship. What else? Oh. Just like the teeny-bopper girls who were interviewed on TV, I think Eddie is extremely sexy. The guy is a major hottie with a fantastic sense of humor. Even Cassandra had trouble disapproving of his ribald humor--"Edward!" Face it, the guy is likeable. He has charisma. |
Jasper | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:59 pm  ZAPPRE I just read through this thread and saw your post from last night. I 100% agree with what you had to say. I thought you had some very sound arguments and reasoning as usual. And unlike most of us, you have the experience to back your opinions up. I hope your life is as lucky as Eddie's. |
Marymary | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:01 pm  Zappre---finally someone said this properly. That's the truth. And that's my dissertation finished. ;) |
Kearie | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:29 pm  Lucinda-- I loved that scene. Eddie and Brittany sitting on the couch...'don't be stupid!' and the other sound she was trying to mimick. It was great. I still laugh when I think about that. Thanks for reminding me and giving me a chuckle. |
Fenixtx | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:31 pm  We turned a simple game show into an emotional battlefield. Ignoring the fact that we have a moral obligation to be fair to each of them. This is clear proof that our American society can not be expected to be objective on anything, not even a game show. Thank goodness, we don't decide the outcome of the Olympics. |
Zappre | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:40 pm  Ya, Fenixtx, let's leave the Olympics to the "impartial" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink) Lithuanian judge. Jasper: So do I. I sure could use the money. (Actually, i've had both a tough and lucky life) Marymary: Needless to say, you have impeccable taste. |
Franny1 | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:57 pm  well said Zappre, I agree with you. It is never all or nothing in this world. You can like and dislike things people do but it doesn't mean you have to like or dislike the person. We all vote for many reasons not just one. Some feel pity, some feel he is deserving for varing reasons. |
Shan | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:00 pm  I think that sympathy may play a role in why people like Eddie so much, but not consciously. I don't think people are sitting around thinking I feel sorry for Eddie. At the same time, I think that his offensive ways would not be tolerated if it was someone else. People in chat rooms often said, wouldn't you be mean if you lost your leg? |
Woodpekker | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:01 pm  Thats a true statement......and if Eddie acted in public the way he does in the house....his actions would be laughed at as those of a pathetic immodest bully. |
Zappre | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:03 pm  I'm surprised but heartened to hear you say that Franny1. Peace. |
Jana | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:05 pm  i have not read ONE post of this thread, only the question...just thought i'd add my answer... ....probably yes.....i LOVE Ed....and he needs the money the most...Curt is my favorite and he needs it the least..... i will be happy when whoever wins, and it may sound ugly to mention a sympathy factor, but this is a REALITY show, and the REALITY is yes, probably.....is that something you could change? no....is it wrong? not really....it's just the way REAL people will vote.... ....i'll be happy for him though....they ALL deserve it! |
Beachfeet | Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:14 pm  *Reality Check!* It's because he has one leg. .....Rats Rife! |
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