Josh Deserves to Win
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Lesbianprincess | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 12:12 am  Okay, I guess our votes come down to this: What is our reason for spending our own money to make someone a half millionaire? It is either based on choosing the "best' candidate or making a difference in someone's life and possibly the life of their family. The first prospect has been addressed quite a bit, so I will focus on the second. The three cash prizes are $50, 100 and 500 thousand dollars. All great amounts of money (that I would love to win myself) However, when we consider the HGs reasons for wanting to win we see that: **Eddie wants to win to pay off his medical bills, thus helping out his family and to pay for his brother's education. He may or may not make any additional money once the show ends. **Josh-wants to pay off tens of thousands of dollars of student loans and help his family (example, using money to send his niece to college) *Curtis, well, I don't actually remember, but I know that his reasons were more of winning for merit as opposed to winning for need. That's fine, I do not fault him for achieving his goals in life, I applaud him. I believe Jamie will be banished, so I will opt to skip her. >>> Now, about the prize money: As I said, all great sums of money, but let's look at the third place figure: $50,000. After taxes, 50 grand leaves you with about enough to either put a down payment on a very small house, OR a Ford Explorer, maybe with leather seats and a CD player. If you have tens of thousands of dollars of debt, you can't even buy those. It will already be spent. Third prize will not really make much difference in the lives of people like Eddie or Josh. It would however make a nice prize for a new lawyer. I am not saying to vote any way in particular, but I thought I might throw out some food for thought for the people who have decided that they would like someone who needs the money to win the first and second prize. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I do like Curtis, but I favor Josh and Eddie. They are the people I would have chosen to bond with if I had been in the house. And I tend to have a good sense of people's character. The reason I choose the username that I did was for a reason. I know many young girls think that Josh is cute, hot,... and I wanted to be clear that that was not why I support him. I truly believe him to be an honest, caring person. People on some boards have called him gay, or wussy, and I would like to comment on that. Josh lost his mother when he was 14 years old. I'm not sure how his relationship with his biological father is, but it's probably safe to say that he didn't have a great time when his parents divorced. Yes, lots of people come from broken homes, and many of them show no scars. But many do. To couple that with losing a mother at such a difficult age, well, I can see someone becoming more introverted. People fault him for that, yet I can see it hurting nobody, except perhaps, himself. Would I vote him out because of this? Because he's not as entertaining as I might want him to be? No. Nor do I think he is gay, but if he is, who really cares? What he is we may not know, but we do know some things that he is not, at least as much as we can learn about anyone on TV in three months: he is not homophobic nor is he a racist. People have claimed that he is racist because he nominated Cass and Curtis. Yet, he did NOT nominate Curtis every time, and he never nominated Mega. I know, I know...all the sex stuff. Show me one good looking guy his age that doesn't act like that sometimes. Maybe I feel like I'm a good person to comment about him, because 95% of the time, I would probably categorize someone like him a user. But I don't think that at all. I think he is sincere, and that gets my vote before all else. Eddie is a very close second, but the one thing that I have liked about Josh from the beginning is that he is living in the moment and appreciating his experience as opposed to Eddie just wanting to win and be done with it. Thank you for taking the time to read this. (paragraph separations inserted by moderator to improve readability for the 40+ crowd) |
Webtvlurker | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 08:00 am  "POOR" and Curtis? Don't think so. I've made up my mind, next week my votes go to Josh to place 1st. I couldn't stand to see him come in 3rd after Curtis. I think Eddie (love him) has enough support to take #1 but if not, I would be delighted to see Josh take it. |
1985 | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 08:16 am  hmmmm josh ... josh.... nope. Sorry. Doesn't ring a bell. |
Creamynougat | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 08:20 am  LOL 1985. And I think Munch's reason definitely deserves honorable mention for creativity: "Josh deserves to win because he has done nothing much." This is classic. ROFLMAO! |
Webtvlurker | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 08:29 am  This is supposed to be a pro Josh thread, go make fun of him somewhere else. May I suggest a Curtis to win thread? I'll promise not to come over and spoil yours if you don't do it here, OK? |
Creamynougat | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 08:52 am  This is supposed to be a pro Josh thread, go make fun of him somewhere else. There is no discussion of a topic if only those who are in agreement have a say. This is a discussion board, after all. A topic such as "Josh Deserves to Win" should be open to those who offer dissenting opinions as well as those who agree with the proposition. Either position is on-topic. Note that even the original poster began this thread not with any reason why Josh deserves to win on his own merits, but rather because "Curtis is stupid...." |
Webtvlurker | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 09:31 am  Creamynougat, note taken |
Soweird | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 01:03 pm  Creamynougat, the moderators have been enforcing a policy of preventing negative posts in "love" threads. It's impossible to have hard and fast rules, but I've seen more than one person banished for posting negative messages to a "love" thread. Personally I see nothing wrong with dissenting opinions in any thread, but of course it isn't my message board. |
Tubasu | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 01:30 pm  Josh deserves to win because we watched him learn some painful truths about himself. He went in acting like a player, ran into the female united front, and backed off gracefully. He seems like a sensitive guy, takes care of other people's feelings, handles Pugita like a genuine dog-lover, and, not least, has consistently done chores without complaint. He has been a good housemate in every way and deserves the big prize. |
Creamynougat | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 02:38 pm  Thanks, Soweird, I've seen the moderators' tendencies, which I think have been pretty fair. I was merely expressing my opinion. I think there is a difference between "hate" posts, which gratuitously bash HGs and dissenting opinions, which can be relevant to the topic. |
Marlo | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 07:10 pm  Josh does not deserve to win, he did not earn it. He is like a piece of furniture, just there. no personality, does not say much unless he is drunk |
Nance | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 07:14 pm  Josh saved the pug Go Josh !!!! |
Petunia | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 09:24 pm  >Yet, he did NOT nominate Curtis every time um... YES, he did. http://webcenter.bigbrother2000.aol.com/entertainment/NON/article388.html |
Soweird | Sunday, September 24, 2000 - 11:34 pm  Nance, I agree. Josh may be the Hamlet of Houseguests, the Prince of Indecision, but when it really counted he didn't hesitate at all to save the pug. Is this one action commendable enough to put him in the money? Ya, you betcha. |
Save_Jamie | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:05 am  Why does Josh deserve to win after stabbing Jamie in the back??? What he did to her was horrible. Poor Jamie, she's had to fight an uphill battle the whole time she's been in there. |
Lesbianprincess | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 12:06 am  Um,... Well, Petunia, you're right, that web page does say he nom'ed Curtis, but the one I had looked at before, I believe on this website had him not nominating Curtis in one of the first rounds, and I believed that I also remembered that to be true. I guess I'm wrong about that, but I still believe that he is not basing Curt's noms on race. As I said, Josh did not nominate Mega, which he could have done (IMO) when Mega was causing tension in the house and never been thought of as racist for doing so (given Mega's unpopularity) I believe Josh has nominated according to who he believes either needs the money the most, or who "misses" being outside the most (Karen). I also think that he simply likes Eddie more than he does Curtis, but I don't think racism has anything to do with it. >>> I also think that since AOL/BB moniter their message boards and the subject of Josh being racist has come up there, that it may be the subject that they questioned him about and got him so upset. I think racism is terrible, but I also think labeling someone a racist if they're not one is very unfair. >>> What I find funny is that Josh has been called racist far more than I myself ever saw Karen's "spade" comment posted. And that was not only on live feeds but on TV, also. (I'm not neccesarily referring to this particular board.) Anyway, thank you for pointing that out! |
Petunia | Monday, September 25, 2000 - 11:14 am  I don't happen to think racism had anything to do with it, either. I think it was pure envy, both of Curtis as an individual and the fact that Jamie seemed to prefer his company over Josh's. In any case, the fact that he did nominate my favorite HG every single round, makes him a monumental goober in my book. Curtis did nothing to deserve being marked for banishment as often as he was and I hold Josh at least partially responsible for it. |
Dulci | Tuesday, September 26, 2000 - 10:04 am  Save Jamie - How die Josh stab-Jamie-in-the-back? By nominating her for the first time in the final round? According to his so-called nomination 'criteria,' he had no choice but to choose Curtis and Jamie, as he feels Eddie needs the money more than Curtis or Jamie. |
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