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Sauldaddy | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 12:00 pm  Just caught the end of Sheperd Smith interview with Karen. It was great! No fluff. Sheperd nailed her. I wish I could have seen the whole thing. If we can get a transcript, PLease Post! |
Spaga | Monday, August 21, 2000 - 12:12 pm  Just saw it myself. Sheperd was friendly but to-the-point. He asked Karen if she was getting a divorce. She said she and Tom only talked for 15 minutes after the show, stayed the night then went back home the following morning. Said they both wanted to be together for the children when they were younger, and that's what they've done for 22 years. Said they will talk when she gets home today about the future, that she will take it one day at a time. Sheperd asked if she thought about how her kids might feel seeing their mother cry and talk about their dad as she did. She said they had seen her cry about her relationship for years, they were used to it by now. Sheperd asked if a former hg drove her crazy like he did everyone else in the house, she didn't answer, before he asked if SHE had a forum. She said absolutely not. He said she had a lot on her plate to deal with when she got home and she agreed, that she would take it one day at a time. |
Kanekat | Thursday, August 24, 2000 - 04:47 pm  The thing that bugs me most about Karen is that she is so completely oblivious to the fact that the main problem we had with her was not (although horrible) talking about her bad marriage on television for her children, their friends, friends' parents, teachers etc. to see, BUT rather that she in the FIRST instance decided that she would confide in her children, cry on them, etc. about her bad marriage before BB ever came around. If you are going to remain in a loveless marriage "for" your children, why on earth would you allow your children to know how unhappy you are??? Children are to be protected not be used as your best friends. It sickens me. |
Jana | Sunday, August 27, 2000 - 07:13 pm  here here kanekat |
Jellak | Monday, August 28, 2000 - 10:36 am  Think Karen said she was moving out to LA. Anyone have any news on that and what she is planning to do out there? Think she mentioned some offers she received but did not specify what they were. |
Yankee | Friday, September 01, 2000 - 08:13 am  Brittany said last night on AOL Chat that yesterday she talked with Karen via cell phone while Karen was on the road with a U-haul headed for California. Someone here in OUTSIDE THE HOUSE has transcribed the whole interview in text. |
Yankee | Friday, September 01, 2000 - 08:16 am  It's transcribed in AOL CHAT WITH BRITTANY thread. |
Katie | Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 01:07 am  Would like to comment on BUT rather that she in the FIRST instance decided that she would confide in her children, cry on them, etc. about her bad marriage before BB ever came around. If you are going to remain in a loveless marriage "for" your children, why on earth would you allow your children to know how unhappy you are??? Not everyone is good about hiding their feelings. Sometimes you get upset and face it kids are smart and perceptive. They and hear things no matter what. They would know if the marriage was bad and the couple unhappy. It doesn't mean she confided in her children but that they saw it or sensed it. For example the kids are out and she and Tom are home and fighting and one or more of the kids walked in the house. They could have tried to act as if nothing was going on but the tears might have already been in her eyes and believe me the kids would have noticed. Tom might have quickly left the room. If the kids asked they might have tried to pretend that everything was ok but the kids would know better. After awhile the kids would have put it all together and known when their parents had been fighting without a word being said to them. Her kids aren't little kids but basically adults and they have had a lot of time to figure it all out. What I do find fault with is her staying in that marriage if she was that unhappy. She said she stayed for the kids but since the kids knew, she was better off leaving. She wasn't protecting them by staying but it is not uncommon. Let's pretend for awhile that we believe what she said about him being cold, withdrawn and such(and his poem to her seems to admit it)then she WAS probably pretty unhappy in the marriage. They seem to be two totally different people. Like night and day. She is very emotional and he is totally unemotional. She likes to talk and he is the silent type and so on. To me it is amazing that they ever got married but who knows maybe one or both of them changed that much during the marriage and grew apart. I think that she should have left him long ago but we also know that when women get a divorce, their standard of living goes down and so does that of the kids living with them. Maybe she was thinking of that. I don't know but I would like to give her the benefit of the doubt on this. |
Yankee | Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 09:13 am  KATIE - You've given quite a bit of heartfelt thought about your post. Your empathy is noteable and I agree with you. There may be a couple of facts you may be unaware of that may provide some light on the subject. Karen admitted to the other houseguests she had an affair with her step-father's nephew twelve years ago. She told Tom about it. He packed up his family, his career and moved from Detroit to Alabama to start over. Question: do you think this may have begun the beginning of the end? In an answer to my email Karen's oldest daughter Jill said her mother had a total hysterectomy as a result of surgery a few years ago and did not need harmone therapy. Karen also admitted to Jamie and Brittany that she was afraid at that time that she had contacted a sexual disease as a result of her affair. Question: if ovaries were removed which produce estrogen, could she possible be approaching menapause? Would that be a factor in her severe mood swings, insecurities, depression and nervousness displayed in the BB house? To me this might explain one reason for the distance between Karen and her husband and the result now in progress of her moving to California with a uhaul. I'm sure there are other unknown factors involved we're not aware of but Karen did make these facts public while in the house. (I do know of a few marriage failures as a result of "the change of life" factor and all the symptoms above were involved.) Sad but true. jmo |
Anovarho | Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 11:28 am  Karen is in her forties. If she hasn't had a total hysterectomy, she is indeed approaching menopause. |
Ccc | Saturday, September 02, 2000 - 12:28 pm  Uh - if you have a total hysterectomy - or just lose your ovaries while in your childbearing years, you go into INSTANT menopause. That's what menopause is, when your ovaries reach the end of their hormone-producing years. I'd be surprised if a doctor did a complete hys on someone in their late 30's/early 40's and DID NOT put her on hormones for awhile. After a certain period of time (different for different women), the symptoms can subside and you can quit taking them. Karen is only 43. Menopause can normally happen in your forties or sixties - but late 40's- early 50's is about the average age, I think. I'm 46 and if I miss the estrogen for a few days I still get mild hot flashes AND some irritability and depression. (And my surgery was at age 33). So, without surgery, I may not have started menopause yet. Karen may or may not have any symptoms anymore. You'd actually have to ask her! No way to guess. It's also possible that if she's not taking any kind of hormones, she could have the depression, irritability, etc and not have hot flashes - so she might not tie the two together. Some doctors don't recognize anything but hot flashes as symptoms. They are wrong. I, and others I've known, know that as soon as you take the hormones, the irritability and depression magically go away. Hope this helps! Disclaimer - I'm not a doctor, but I have to play one in my life. |
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