Archive through September 25, 2000

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Solun

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:11 pm Click here to edit this post

Katie --

Celexa was great -- no/little sexual side effects, no nausea. I wish it hadn't stopped working!

Hokum

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:14 pm Click here to edit this post

Wow, forget Josh...lol

You ladies are incredible for sharing your experiences. My heart goes out to you.

Someone told me about a med that was used for smoking cessation and also eased depression. I wish I could remember what it was called.

The thing about meds is...if you just happen to have an eating disorder, it's not very easy to swallow a pill ;)

Best wishes to you all.

Gonnagetfired

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:16 pm Click here to edit this post

Yep, we're self-absorbed. And in 4 days Josh will have more than enough money to pay for all the therapy he wants!

All we have is this thread!

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:24 pm Click here to edit this post




Thanks I got it!!

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:30 pm Click here to edit this post

Hokum,
You are right about eating disorders.

Ocean Islands there is nothing we can do for Josh. If he needs help, he will soon have enough money for it.

Ocean_Islands

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 04:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Then I suggest we rename this thread, "Where the fans talk about their own problems".

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 05:42 pm Click here to edit this post

Ocean...

This thread did start our about Josh...but many of these gals have the same kind of depressive dsiorders so they are sharing their feelings...you know now adays it all comes down to feelings. I think the discussion has been great for them and if it makes them feel better sharing...than what can I say. I admire them for sharing their stories as they are the most discrimnated population now in healthcare with the largest untreated patient population in the US.

Hokum...the med you are discussing is Zyban. Zyban is Wellbutrin marketed under a different name just like a new drug Soraform that is for PMS is really a low dose of Prozac. THe major problem with Zyban and Wellbutrin is the seizure side effect.

Katie and others I am waiting to hear from my Washington contact for you gals...as soon as he calls I will let you know.

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:02 pm Click here to edit this post

Jade,
I never knew that Wellbutrin was Zyban.

Ocean Shores,
This thread would probably be gone by now if we weren't continuing it with our talk. I could be wrong but that is they way it looks to me.


Can someone tell me how you make the smiling and sad faces??

Columbus

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:08 pm Click here to edit this post

I took Zyban to try to quit smoking and it almost
killed me. You are right that it is Wellbutrin
and there are so many side effects especially when
taken with other medications. I had stopped my
Celexa before I started Zyban and it just made me
so sick. With celexa I had no appetite, so then
my doc put me on Sinequan (which is a tricyclic)
at night and it really gave me back my appetite
and also lets me sleep real well at night. As far
as the sexual side affects..for use of a better..
it sucks. I'm sure that it is from the Celexa, so
now I am a happy, non-depressed impotent(female).

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:17 pm Click here to edit this post

Actually...just reading the PDR...Celexa has little sexual side effects indicated. Per their clinical trials here in the US there were only two reported.

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:23 pm Click here to edit this post

My hubby lectures for all of these companies and I have sat through over the last twenty plus years at least a 1,000 lectures is what I figured iut with the kids...God they are so boring.


SNOOOOZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Columbus

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:26 pm Click here to edit this post

When I was off of the Celexa I was chasing my
husband around the house and at 78 he can't run
that fast (or maybe he wanted to be caught).

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Too funny Columbus! Good toknow that it keeps on working and working.

Columbus

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:30 pm Click here to edit this post

I did it!

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:35 pm Click here to edit this post

What is so funny is that Celexa has been in Europe for over 15 years and it has taken the FDA...you know those drug whores all this time to put it on the market. And it is the cheapest SSRI around today.

Many new meds coming out this years and next years even more. Although new meds brings high costs.

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:42 pm Click here to edit this post

With celexa I had no appetite

If I can only get so lucky. I have noticed that I am not as hungry as before.
BTW I just noticed the time and other then a couple of pretzels I haven't eaten all day.I just noticed the HGs eating and thought of it.

Kearie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:50 pm Click here to edit this post

Ocean---

This thread was originally about Josh but it changed as do many threads.

I intentionally took the focus off Josh. I do not think it is fair for the average lay man to try to diagnos someone with a mental illness. I also do not like people assuming someone has mental illness simply because they seem down.

Instead of turning this into a focus on "what is wrong with Josh" I decided to play a little game called..."What is wrong with ME".

Because of the length of the thread, I assume some people enjoyed trying to figure out what was wrong with me. I knew I wouldn't get hurt or offended and other posters would eventually get the right answer.

I think it is kind of self-serving to think that we as posters can help Josh with his unhappiness and loneliness in any way. He may read these threads but they won't be life changing to him.

I am happy this post has became what it has. It has proven to offer support to many of our on-line poster buddies. What is more important?

If anyone feels the need to flame this thread or the posters on it...please don't.
Save your flames for me and me alone.

I am mentally ill. So what! If I want to talk and share about a subject that is tabu and misunderstood I will.

I am in no way a threat to you, the houseguests or to any posters. I can be dignified in my illness and I will continue to do so. There is no shame in the illness. If others care to open up, Kudos to them.
Everyone can benefit from sharing and knowledge.

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 06:54 pm Click here to edit this post

Kearie:


I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!!!

Kearie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:20 pm Click here to edit this post

Jade----

what for?

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:26 pm Click here to edit this post

For speaking your mind about your feelings and stuff.

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:28 pm Click here to edit this post

((((((((((Kearie))))))))))
That was so wonderful!!
I sure wish we lived closer together. I would be honored if I could have had you as a friend. Although I don't like Eddie as much as you, I am sure we could have agreed to disagree. That was one of the most mature things I have read.

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:31 pm Click here to edit this post

BTW If anyone wants to flame Kearie, I am standing right beside her so you might as well include me.

Hokum

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:37 pm Click here to edit this post

Jade...eeks! I thought it (Zyban) sounded like a good one from what someone else told me. Thanks for the insight.

Jade888

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Hokum...Zyban is just another name for Wellbutrin it was used in another clinical study for smoking cessation. After the clinical trials...which is had very strong data, they always market drugs with new names.

Also, they can make it more expensive for the first five years of patent.

Katie

Monday, September 25, 2000 - 07:46 pm Click here to edit this post

Jade,
Does that mean it costs more for Zyban then Wellbutrin? If so, could someone just get the Wellbutrin instead?