Last Chance to save Curtis

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Kitkat

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:04 am Click here to edit this post

Come on all Curtis fans. Dig deep into your piggy banks and vote Curtis. Think what a great person to represent Big Brother. Remember his class at the Emmies? Do you want a crude loud mouth to win? Let the good guys win for once. Before the polls close VOTE CURTIS. I am going to spend another $10 to vote him in

Poco

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:06 am Click here to edit this post

I voted 10 times last night. I am going to vote 10 more for curtis this morning.

Kitkat

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:12 am Click here to edit this post

Thanks Poco. Tell all your friends! Wishing us both luck that our choice wins.

Webrover9

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:12 am Click here to edit this post

I have done my part, but if Curtis gets the #2 spot I will be happy. Let Eddie represent CBS, it will serve them right, and might be interesting! ;-)

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:16 am Click here to edit this post

Yup, I agree. Eddie is a better representation of CBS, and of the public.

Rufusgriswold

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 09:20 am Click here to edit this post

Dortega, subtle. I like that. :)

Bbluvr

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 10:46 am Click here to edit this post

Eddie is not a good representation of the public that I am familiar with and neither is Curtis or Josh. I don't think this is about who best represents the public. This comes down to who's fans are willing to waste enough money getting them voted #1. I am personally a Curtis fan but I don't have enough spare income to make sure he is voted as the winner.

Jade888

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 10:55 am Click here to edit this post

I voted a 100 times on phone cards from a pharmecutical company...ha!ha!

If Eddie represents the American Public...heaven help me! It is time for the dictionary to be revised with the extnded and limited vocabulary he has.

Give me a break!

Elisa

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 11:02 am Click here to edit this post

No wonder drug prices are so high, pharmacutical companies are giving Jade money to vote. :) I stayed up late and did all of my voting. Let the chips fall where they may.

Alpine

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 11:05 am Click here to edit this post

Dortega, I like your writing style, keep it up. You are my fav!

Simonshado

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 11:42 am Click here to edit this post

I only recently completed my book on the compelling history of stripping called "Exotic Hip Movements, Ancient & Modern" so I haven't got my advance yet. However, I did spend around $8 voting for Curtis.

Lucinda

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 11:51 am Click here to edit this post

Just a note to say Curtis doesn't need saved at this point. The worst case scenario is $50,000! He's a great guy (I think they all are at this point). So, whoever wins the big money, they all are winners from here on out. Hopefully no one will be disappointed--just varying degrees of joy. They are going to be so happy to out of that house, I am not sure they'll even notice the money.

Iron_Chef

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 01:58 pm Click here to edit this post

I agree with Lucinda. Saving Curtis for the sake of this gameshow is a pretty minor thing in the whole scheme of things. I'm still pleasantly surprised that an Asian-American man was selected for this show. We can't turn a blind eye to the fact that in the less than 30 years since Bruce Lee was told it was a no-go to play Kane (the role he co-created) in Kung Fu because he was "too Oriental" looking, there hasn't been much progress made on that front on US television. I made the same comment about Cassandra and the feelings and burden she undoubtedly had being an African-American woman on a CBS show -- reality or not -- which most viewers couldn't understand. Remember my post? Isabel Sanford, Esther Rolle, Della Reese and.....? Ah, thought so. Nevermind.

This hits upon what Dortega has been planting all around. Race is still everything. If you've been hooked on BB 3months/24/7, you're probably oblivious to the whole Wen Ho Lee fiasco. But pick up the Sept 25 issue of TIME to catch-up on it, and also an article about the stereotyping and profiling Asian-Americans continually face. Very interesting read. As Dr. David Ho (TIME's Man of the Year in 1996) says, "[Asian-Americans] need our Jesse Jacksons and Al Sharptons..."

I wouldn't put that burden on Curtis Kin, but I think he's done a good job (though unintended) putting a human, tangible face on an Asian-American man for the CBS viewers. I know some of you are thinking "wtf? how dare you bring race into this? i wouldn't care if curtis was green, blue, orange, etc." But I trust many of you are in tune with exactly what I'm speaking about. I think Curtis entered the house as a de facto outsider. Unlike others who were warmly embraced at the get-go as the dad, the mom, the all-american boy, the one-legged guy, etc, he's had to prove himself. Which he has. It's a shame that a certain minority here has had to resort in the last week to throwing out the old discredited "dishonest, greedy, inner cruelty" barbs around the clock.

I apologize in advance to the people on this thread for killing it. Seems everytime I post something, the thread dies. Is it my body odor or just the abhorrance of the people and topics I target to think and write a rebuttal of substance? I do have hope people will say something this time. After all, this is about race, and people always have things to say about that, right? Oh well, as long as I have the soul of Jean Jordan possessing me, I'm off to go dancing. Later all... LOL.

Battlestar

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:08 pm Click here to edit this post

One of my all time favourite 'Asian' characters on TV can seen on Star Trek "Voyager'

Ensign Harry Kim played by Garrett Wang

Curtis reminds me of him---

Hinten

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:21 pm Click here to edit this post

At least Eddie can represent the gay viewers of CBS...
http://www.eonline.com/Gossip/Awful/Archive2000/000928c.html

<Little did CBS know that one of their comely choices has a sexual past that very well might surprise his or her sofa-chums. Seems one of these trapped cuties has romantic leanings that are quite the opposite of those declared on prime time.


And not only is the network now aware of this fact, so my insiders tell me, the execs are terrified the sexy poop will get out. What fools. Nothing would help this monotonous mishap more. After all, what is a horny hullaballo, if not increased ratings?
>
and all they show are Eddie pictures...

Jasper

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:36 pm Click here to edit this post

The polls show it neck and neck between Josh and Curtis for 2nd place(with Curtis just slightly in the lead). It is not to late to vote for Curtis. The polls are apparently still open. I just placed a vote anyway. I hope it counts.

Don't bother voting for eddie. He is so far in the lead that it is virtually impossible for him not to win.

Carole

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:37 pm Click here to edit this post

Hate to disappoint you Hinten.. but George is sitting next to Eddie in that picture.

Cfan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:43 pm Click here to edit this post

Thank you Iron Chef!

I noticed from the beginning that it didn't seem that anyone took Curtis seriously. It's as if they just assumed he would get voted off right away. It made me so angry. Here he was nice, always supportive and the people in the house thought nothing of nominating him off.

What was especially telling was when they had that question challenge. When they had to answer who is most likely to get banished, The group didn't even hesitate to yell out CURTIS and then start laughing. I didn't find that funny at all.
Why Curtis? That had to hurt and he must feel that he's not one of the "popular" ones. But instead of sulk about it, he took it in stride and just had a great time. I believe he most of all appreciated his time there and tried to just enjoy every moment.

I'm thrilled to death that he made it to the final three! I'm just so happy about that.

I do believe that the producers probably felt that he was expendable. I don't remember him getting as much camera time as the others. I think it was because he was Asian. He was like the 5th man cast in a star trek episode. nice but not memorable. I love it that he has proved them all wrong. Nice guys can win!

In case you are wondering. I am Asian myself. My Mom is Korean and my Dad is Chinese and Spanish. I only speak English. I read somewhere that someone criticized Curtis for not learning Chinese. Oh, pleasse. I doubt that there are many people who make it a point to learn the language of their heritage. Why would they assume Curtis should. Is it because they think all Chinese people should know Chinese? Give me a break!

Sorry to rant but have always felt that he didn't get as much respect as he deserved for the fact that he was "the Asian". I would cringe every time Josh would refer to him as the Asian lawyer. UUGH! It seems when someone makes fun of Asians, it's OK. There's no outrage. I love Eddie but didn't like his old joke about the Chinese phonebook. Ha! Ha! yeah, we just think that is so funny. Bless Curtis, he's such a good sport. He just laughs along with it.

He really is an exceptional person. I feel honored to have gotten to know him.

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:49 pm Click here to edit this post

Yup, Curtis did make us Asians proud to be one.

Whatever

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 02:57 pm Click here to edit this post

Out of the tens of thousands of posts and thousands of posters here on BBFC, the only individuals who have even mentioned Curtis' ethnicity claim to be Asian.

For very nearly all BBFC posters, and I imagine the great majority of BB viewers, Curtis' ethnicity is/was a complete non-issue.

To suggest otherwise ignores facts and demonstrates a level of bigotry and ethnocentrism that is not shared by others.

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:04 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever: it is part of the issue, not the total issue. and majority of viewers voted out of charisma, and appeal. geeze, wehn r u gonna stop ridiculing me...

how many times do i have to say if curtis is up against karen/geroge, he has the chance because these two doesnt embody the all maerican image whereas going up against josh/eddie is different because curtis, as an asian, have a different appeal...

u still insists on caling people names, geeze...who's teh one ignoring the facts being presented...all you're saying is me being a bigot and repeating and repeating....where in my statements did i prove to be one?

Whatever

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:15 pm Click here to edit this post

Dortega: Your questions have been directly answered in my previous posts.

Your repetitive demonstrations of ignorance are tiresome.


SEE JULIE CHEN: Thur. Morning 9/27 Radio Interview- "I Think EDDIE Will Win!"

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Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:17 pm Click here to edit this post

u have pointed out how my statements are wrong.
geeze, quit calling people names...

u r taking this way too personal when in fact my theory has nothing to do with racism nor hatred of one race or the other...

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:20 pm Click here to edit this post

i mean give me how u pointed out...

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:26 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever: American Culture, ok! nothing more nothing else...ayayay

Whatever

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:29 pm Click here to edit this post

Dortega: nothing to do with racism nor hatred of one race or the other...

Racism and/or bigotry can exist without hatred.

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 03:36 pm Click here to edit this post

huh? your point being?

i dont understand how u dont see american culture as plyaing a thing which has nothing to do with bigotry nor racism nor hatred...

Whatever

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 04:04 pm Click here to edit this post

Dortega: I'm trying to help you understand, but we're not communicating very well, sorry.

The fact you ignore everything that I've stated to you does not help the process.

Maybe someone else who does understand will jump in here or in the other thread to explain it to you.

I trust that you are trying to understand- I just do not know how to be any clearer than what I've stated previously. Again, review the past discussion for greater understanding.

Cfan

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 04:39 pm Click here to edit this post

whatever says <"To suggest otherwise ignores facts and demonstrates a level of bigotry and ethnocentrism that is not shared by others.">

and by pointing out that <"the only individuals who have even mentioned Curtis' ethnicity claim to be Asian."> Thank you for pointing the fact that we are ASIAN out. And your point is..?

Are you suggesting that our opinions mean something negative because we are Asian? And why is that? So if an Asian relates to another Asian, we are bigots? hmmmm

If you think what anyone on this board has written demonstrates bigotry, I've got news for you. It isn't. Your carefree use of that term is a slap in the face to people who have experienced REAL bigotry.

I'm sure that those pretty statement made you feel really good about yourself. But ask yourself, at what expense? By spouting such a judgemental statement like that to people who this is a real issue for, implies an insensitivity for another's race and concerns that I find disturbing.

Why don't you try appreciating our point of view instead of criticizing it. Instead of being interested in this bit of insight your reaction is to degrade it. Interesting.

I personally have never noticed which Curtis supporter was or wasn't Asian. Or cared. For someone so "open" It is interesting that it stuck out for you enough to make a point of it.

I was merely replying to Iron Chef and thought he/she might be interested in that fact. I also thought it would be interesting for people to see where I was coming from. I must say being derided for it has really surprised me.

Really disappointing.

Whatever

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 04:48 pm Click here to edit this post

Cfan: Are you suggesting that our opinions mean something negative because we are Asian? And why is that? So if an Asian relates to another Asian, we are bigots?


To answer your questions:
1. No.
2. Not applicable.
3. No.

I don't why you have that misperception, but I'm sorry you did.

Dortega raised the issue in another thread.

Her belief is that Curtis could not win, because he was Asian-American and does not fit an "all-American image", in her words.

I think she is wrong, and that her view demontrates bigotry.

Did you bother to look at the link provided above?

SEE JULIE CHEN: Thur. Morning 9/27 Radio Interview- "I Think EDDIE Will Win!"

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Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 05:45 pm Click here to edit this post

Whatever: you removed a lot of my basis....it's not just Asian-American and all american thingo, remember i said it would be different had he been up against jamie/george/or karen!

guess who should be reading more...

Dortega

Friday, September 29, 2000 - 05:51 pm Click here to edit this post

whatever: if u really read all your responses....u started with labels after my initial post about my theory...and then u just went on and on...labels after labels...i presented a lot of things but all u see are two things 'asians'...'all american image'...u completely dismissed my statements about 'this being a popularity content', 'eddie/josh not as bad as karen/george/jamie', 'curtis has a chance of getting 500k if he be against karen/george/jamie/whoever', 'that because of eddie/josh having the typical all american aura will make them get the top spot'!!! are these bigotry??? these are just cultural facts and i dont see anything with them....the reason why i started this was that im just amazed at how people go on analyzing and overanalyzing how curtis will lose/win...etc...when facts are so obvious but always overlooked because people regard such thinking as taboo!

p.s. results tonight just goes to show you how popular eddie is despite his actions/remarks over the last 3 months.