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Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jesse: I don't know I still haven't made a decision.

Jessica B.: What? You mean the final ceremony is less than 24 hours away and you are still not sure?

Jesse: This is a tough one. I still haven't made up my mind.

Jessica B.: Let me help you out. I'll tell you what, if you haven't had enough information to make up your mind to this point I'll make it real easy for you. Take Tara because I am out of here. I've had all I can listen to of your spineless drivel. Have fun. I REJECT the rose. Save the tape stock. I'm outta here.


(Well, don't you just wish that's what happened?)


Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 1:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, tonight made me like Tara alot more than I did. Her concern over Jessica possibly being hurt was endearing. She made mention of it in the limo then again when she was talking to Jesse and it seemed very sincere.

Also, I like that she called him out for his "inappropriate" behavior. She made it seem obvious that they had sex or something similar and that would be inappropriate if he we was choosing someone else the next day.

I think Jesse always brought up Tara to Jessica because he was starting to feel like she was someone he could say anything to and he needed to talk about this stuff with a friend and she was becoming that friend for him. He knew she could handle it.

It was very funny to watch his parents have their own favorites. Boy, Mom sure didn't like Tara, did she? She was brutal when she told Jesse that she didn't think Tara had feelings for him. I thought that was a bit unfair of her to judge. Give your opinion on the girl but don't presume to know their heart.

I like Jesse. I thought he was an honest guy. I hated how he punctuated his sentences with a kiss everytime though.

PS. Jessica looked like crap. The hair was awful and the dress looked like a tablecloth.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 2:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fabnsan - I agree with everything you said. I rewound the tape since I had been flipping channels the first hr on AI commercials.. and tried to look for "inappropriate things" Jesse may have said and done. She did mention the last night they were together. I noticed he seemed to whisper something in her ear before he kissed her when she was looking for some kind of reassurance.

I always thought he would pick Jessica. She's really on the ball for her age. She's probably more mature than Jesse if you want to do a comparison. The girl was already in LAW SCHOOL by the age of 21. Most people don't get their bachelors until 21-22 yrs old. Besides, Jesse is only 25-26? Jessica was almost 22. That's only 3- 3 1/2 yrs... quite typical. Jesse is the one I think is probably too young to settle down.

I always thought his age was the minimum a guy should be. Now that my girls are in their 20s.. I keep thinking they should go w/the trends and marry later... much later! LOL Well, I supposed if they were with the right guy.. :-)

ROFL re: Jessica's hair. The hair was the worst thing I ever saw!! argggh!!

I think Tara has a much more natural beauty look to her. My 20 yr old DD commented she thought she was a lot prettier than Jessica. I told her Jessica COULD look very pretty.. lol. Hmmmm.. I wonder if Jesse was watching his back for her father and his guns? heh heh

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 2:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm with you on the school thing. Did you notice how Jesse's dad mentioned numerous times how she's still a college student. No, Dad, she is a law student which means she graduated from college already! There is a big difference. That shows determination and drive. She's not some sorority chick going to keggers every friday night.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After watching last night's show I think Jessica is a better match for Jesse. Although I had no opinion previous to last night cuz they really did not show that much interaction between Jesse and the girls. They really need to either lengthen the show or start with fewer girls.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
p.s. I agree Jessica's hair looked awful but I loved her dress. Tablecloth indeed...LOL!

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I am going with my original opinion from the very first show. I don't think any of them were suited to him.

To me, 25, for a guy to think of settling down...no way...he's still a kid in my opinion. I know it's brushing with broad strokes but I did say in 'my' opinion.

I've told my sons, if they are smart, to not even think about that 'til they're around 30.

Okay...I'm going to sound shallow but in my initial reaction to the women on this show, I didn't think any of them were particularly good looking.

I think Jesse is quite handsome and none of them equalled him in looks. Not even Trish, who's personality detracted from any looks she may have had.


Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/

Jesse picks Jessica B., doesn't propose.
Alleged spoilers be damned, Jesse Palmer picked Jessica B. during The Bachelor 5's finale. First, he showered her with praise ("You make me a better person. You have given me everything that I asked for. And never once did you expect anything back.") and then really faked her out, dropping a big "but" into his speech and then pausing oh-so-dramatically. Then he said, "I don't want to wake up tomorrow morning if I can't wake up with you." Instead of proposing, however, he offered her a one-way first-class ticket to New York City. Jessica was okay with that: "I don't need a proposal, I just wanted to walk out of this with you." Tara, meanwhile, was on the side of a road vomiting into the bushes with nervousness. By the time Jesse told Jessica, "Chase all your dreams, but do it with me," viewers were heaving right alongside Tara. Tara finally managed to get back in the car, and then out of it again (although she spent a lot of time hyperventilating). Jesse sent Jessica into the house, and once Tara arrived, pausing time and time again and making Jesse stand there with her. She went into full drama mode, telling Jesse, "I really don't want you to say anything. ... Today I had such bad feelings, and I don't know if it's because you're not feeling the same way I am, which is really hard for me," or because one of her "best friends in the world" would get hurt. "Either way, I feel like this is not a good situation." Jesse finally was able to start talking, and told her that she wasn't the one. Tara fought back, vomiting all over Jesse. No, not really; actually, she got pissed: "I'm going to try my hardest to be happy for you...I really wish you wouldn't have led me on the way you did." She added something about their time together, saying, "I do feel that there were a lot of things that were completely inappropriate" since he didn't end up with her. Whatever; get in the limo, <nk>. The "After the Final Rose" special airs next Wednesday at 9 p.m. ET.


Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought this was the most unbelievable Bachelor...he's home BEGGING his friends and family to make a choice for him and 24 hours before he still has no clue which one (of 2 identical girls lol) to choose. And he says he has real feelings? If you have real feelings it's easy not the torture we watched IMHO.

But this sticks with my "not enough time to really fall in love" theory. He prolly had an attraction to both of them, but not enough time with them to figure out if he really cared for either of them. THEN the show keeps them apart for months. And they expect couples to really fall in love that way????? Talk about fiction not reality tv.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The premise is ridiculous, Lurk.

It's just a fairy tale they're trying to weave for people.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well Rupert I totally agree with you re: the looks. I thought this in the beginning but was too chicken to voice it aloud. Added into the equation is the fact that Jesse is somewhat of a celebrity. He certainly, I am sure, has had his pick of beautiful women. I really am amazed though that he is only 25...he appears older while the girls seemed sooooooooooo much younger than he.

Pascalle
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09-25-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think most of the girls were very pretty either. I hope next season they don't have 25 girls with that ugly streaky blond limp hair. Most of them looked alike to me and some of them had no desernable waist lines.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
if he really is dating a 'former miss canada'--and was doing so before this was even filmed--and he gave an interview less than a year ago stating he wasn't ready to settle down for several more years, he never intended to end up with any of these gals. that's why i didn't even watch. just another 'bob' show for me, with the guy on it to get publicity.

i think when it's done with the women picking a mate, the bachelorettes are more looking for a life-long partner, while the bachelors who are picking a mate aren't.



Danzdol
Member

04-21-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I for one was so bummed when it seemed that Jessica was a goner because she got out of the limo first. FINALLY! ABC got with it and used their EDITING tools to change it up a bit. They need to keep doing this differently each time to avoid us from immediately knowing who wins from seeing who gets out of the car first.

I was glad they did that. I was impressed at Tara's intuition telling her something was wrong. She should really work on that further to develop it more! Ultimately, I have always thought that she acted spoiled and selfish. I think she planned to say the "innappropiate " comment the entire time. Probably after she slept with him she thought, "if he does not choose me after doing this.." Think of how Jessica felt when watching this last night. She was also very impatient, rolling her eyss and jumping the gun before he has a chance to finish. She jumped in with her "but" like saying "get it over with already. What if Jesse would have chosen her? She would have looked even crappier for acting so jumpy. I'm not saying it's wrong to answer back but she seemed bitter about it. All that was missing was her stomping her foot like a 2 year old!

Anyhow, I never liked any of the women choices. I always wish these couples the best but never have any faith that they will last, at least on the Bachelor shows..........

Now maybe if we had Jesse's brother as the next Bachelor. HOT HOT HOT! Did anyone like him......



Tweety
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04-14-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What I want to know is what happened to the ring? Bob gave one as a 'promise' ring, but I didn't notice Jesse do the same.

I believe Tara said the inappropriate behaviour happened during their "overnight" date, not their last date.

Did anyone else think that Tara could have been sick due to too much alcohol (we have heard it was flowing freely during the taping) rather than only nerves?



Lori
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04-18-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought the same thing Tweety. As she was hurling I thought to myself..."did she have anything to drink." Who knows...maybe she has an ultra-sensitive stomach and is prone to stomach upsets but the poor girl sure was sick!

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I seem to recall Tara saying the inappropriate behavior was on their last date.

I must confess I differ with y'all here on the looks!!

First, I thought Jessica looked gorgeous... hair & dress... so did my MIL. So weird to come here & read that others thought differently

My MIL thinks that Jessica is more attractive than Tara. I kinda thought Tara was a bit more attractive.. she reminds me of Britney Spears (not that that means anything)

I think Jesse's dad def thought Tara was more attractive and maybe that's why mom didn't like her so much

But I think they're both extremely attractive & actually moreso than Jesse! I don't find Jesse really attractive & neither does my mom. And both of our hubbies are very tall, with dark hair & blue eyes like Jesse btw.

We all thought that Jessica could do much better than Jesse. Thankfully for her it won't last!

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yea for Buggles! I thought Jessica's hair and dress was very pretty too, and I too was surprised with all of the comments. I thought they both looked very pretty.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tara said the inappropriate stuff happened on their "last alone date", whatever she meant by that.

I also thought both of those women were quite beautiful. I felt sorry for Tara at the end. but Jessica was a lot more secure it seems to me, and it would take that to be a pro football players wife, I would think.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For me, they were pretty girls not beautiful women. As ugly as Trish came across to me on the inside, at least she had the outside package together. And I totally agree that Jesse seemed much older but I think that comes from establishing a personal persona as an athelete versus real maturity, which to me he clearly lacks. (A MAN in love doesn't beg friends and family for help).

From what I've heard right now Jesse's pro career isn't going so well, so not sure Jessica or anyone is going to be a pro football player's wife even if he was ready.

And RB, I totally agree it's a fairy tale...but I like a good fantasy now and again. But this one didn't come close to me being able to believe it :-(

I still think the biggest problem with reality TV now is that there are no real people left on it...just folks using it as professional or personal promotional tools. And they think we're too stupid to see through it. ARGHHH.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm, wonder if the puking means Tara is pregnant? LOL! Hopefully the girls were smart enough to ask him to use protection during those "inappropriate" moments.

Didn't care for Jessica's hair, looks like "The Swan" hairdressers got hold of it.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting to read all the diverse opinions.

Only thing I will say about Jessica's hair is...parting waaaay over to the side and scraping across her forehead, reminds me of an old mans combover.

Realbiz
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10-24-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
all i can say is that:

"Rob's marriage proposal(in Survivor All Stars) stole the intrigue of an entire season of The Bachelor in a few minutes."

Sherbabe
Member

07-28-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 3:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wow, bring out the cat claws.

tara was probably nervous because, inside, she knew this was going to happen and she was going to be dumped on natl tv. she was sick, because, she did care for him. these are true feelings and her body reacted to that.
i too find it ironic that jesse needed so much help from his friends and family. and on the morning of final rose ceremony suddenly things are crystal clear for him? if he had listened to his heart without everyone's 2 cents maybe the answer would have be clearer to him earlier. first jenny tells him tara is perfect for him, then she tells him that jessica would make him happy. she wielded a lot of power in his mind. regarless of who he picked, at least it would have been his total choice. when you know, you know. with his career being in the balance, maybe he will become a media as bob did. jesse is much cuter, i must admit. in a previous thread, pre show chatter back in january, i posted that jesse would pick a blonde. most athletes do. so he has his trophy girlfriend, for now. good luck to both of them.

Sherbabe
Member

07-28-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
does anyone know when they will be doing the whirlwind of abc shows. i always like reading body language. maybe after next weeks after the final rose show, when they both have to confront tara.