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Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 10:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
AND this is why kids this age should not be on shows like this. They do not know how to handle situations like this, they just do not have the maturity to understand and deal appropriately with it.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, November 17, 2011 - 11:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
However, I must give credit to Rachel, who is younger, but seems to be handling the whole process better. To me she is the whole package. Great singing talent, cute as a button, good stage presence.....she just makes you smile when you watch her. I hope she goes far. She certainly seems to be embracing this whole experience and learning from all the comments. She is certainly more mature than Astro.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Keldogg, these children are too young to be in such a stressful situation as this competition. These kids have been praised continuously on their "greatness" and won't deal well with rejection. If LA is so sure of Astro's success or Simon of Drew's or Rachel's, then sign them up and promote them. I don't need the kids to tune into the show.

Kids this age being on shows like this is pretty close to child abuse IMO, or at least exploitation. As much as I like to see young talent, I don't want the kids used for my entertainment.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think it helps to have a bit of an ego in certain professions (acting, performing, sales, etc.) because you are rejected a lot and it helps your resilience. Young people (generally) don't have as much experience handling rejection. It sounds like Astro acted like a real jerk but hopefully he can learn from this. Otherwise he won't get far with his singing or even in life.

LOL - Maybe next week he can rap about being unappreciated.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
The judges will keep him when he's in the bottom two, so doesn't really matter.

He should have been sent packing for attitude alone.

He always had the attitude but L.A. Reid has a lot to do with how bad it's gotten since the beginning. Like on performance night he said "is there ever a question with Astro?" when Nicole was giving her remarks.

That's another thing... I wish these judges would learn how to give an opinion in a sentence or two.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
1) Maturity level has nothing to do with age.

2) I wish the judges would quit trying to "one up" the other and give helpful critiques.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
sadly Astro will keep getting the breaks, and even if his fans stop voting for him, he will always beat out the person standing with him in bottom 2- his attitude is so beyond crappy - he threw a hissy fir during boot camp and never even had to dance with everyone else - he needs to learn humility by being voted off and going out and fending for himself -

in case people who missed his hissy fit (like I did) lol

http://www.toofab.com/2011/11/18/x-factor-astro-simon-cowell-video/

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't think that the judges will continue to give Astro breaks, particularly if he is up against stronger competition. For example, there isn't a prayer that the judges would choose Astro over Rachel if Rachel were in the bottom two with him.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 18, 2011 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
The judges were also really keen on Stereo Hogz (as was I :-() but after they were bottom two twice in a row it makes sense to get rid of them, it's not like they'd ever win.

I hope someone (or several ones) has given Astro a good talking to. He came into the show with an attitude and I kind of thought back then Simon or the producers would have told him they think he's talented but he can't have an attitude and continue with the show... obviously they didn't or if they did they blew it by telling him little but how wonderful he is the past few weeks. It'll be interesting to see how he is next show, but I think he's too immature to change.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
At this point, everyone still in the comp. is very talented. They all need to realize that being in the bottom 2 is a posibility. Astro is the only contestant IMO that put himself above this & it showed in his reaction. If the voters continue to put this kid in the bottom 2, he isn't in it for long. The judges will listen to America........I don't believe Nichole would vote to keep Astro against anyone that's left at this point. Don't think Simon took too well to that negative display of attitude either, so he would prob. never get Simon's vote either. It'll be interesting to watch.

I hope Drew does something different next show. She has been one of my fav's since the start but her same ole, same ole dragged out style is getting old.

Rachael is prob. my top choice right now but there are still several others that I would be OK with for the win.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
Drew, LeRoy, Josh, Melanie, and Rachel are my favorite voices.

I wish Drew would show some variety but I love her.

LeRoy and Josh, Melanie I would buy their music.

Rachel, is cute as a button, full of talent and has a good chance of winning BUT would I buy her music, hmmmmmmmmm probably not. They need to find a niche for her that works with a girl her age, imo. I am not critizing her, love the kid, she is sweet, talented, a pleasure to watch, just don't see anyone lining up to buy her music, although they may go to see her in concert.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 3:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
His problem now is that he has been tagged as disrespectful and a jerk. It does not take much for the American public to turn on a contestant in a talent show.

I think Rachel might be a big hit among her demographic which would be the teen public. I could see her selling a lot of albums.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I was just reading that next week is a double elimination. If they had mentioned it on the show, I missed it.

Heckagirl631
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09-08-2010

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heckagirl631 a private message Print Post    
I hadn't heard about the double elimination either. Josh is my fave, but I've always loved the rockers. Melanie is very talented, too, as is Rachel and Drew. I, too, would like to hear Drew do something different.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Saturday, November 19, 2011 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
Since Simon is the creator & executive producer of this show, I'm pretty sure he knows the audience vote totals before the show.

So I'm guessing Brian <I refuse to refer to him as 'Astro' due to his bad attitude> had the lowest percentage of the audience's vote this week so Simon Cowell didn't vote against Brian which would have sent him home by the tie-breaker.

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Sunday, November 20, 2011 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I don't see Rachel appealing to teens, my daughter and her friends love Drew, I had to ask them, all said Rachel is ok but they don't like what she does. One girl even said, "she is annoying" she put her finger on her cheek and did a hehe, making fun of her cuteness. Then my daughter said awe she is cute but her songs suck, she sings like an old woman.

Now me, I love the kid.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, November 21, 2011 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Astro apologised.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/x-factors-astro-apology-facebook-stacy-francis-263987

Writing on his "The Astronomical Kid" profile, Bradley said, "I seriously apologize to my fans, what I said and my emotions weren't directed toward you. I'm 15 and I think I know everything, but the truth is, I don't, and I handled the situation wrong! Win or lose next week, I will make you all proud!?"

He also explained, "What I do, I do for the love of Hip-Hop and my fans, and I would never doing anything to hurt either."

He went on to compare his actions to that of boxing great, Muhammad Ali. "I believed I was being mistreated, and in the moment I thought about Ali's moment. I want to be the new ambassador for Hip-Hop and a leader of a new young movement of positive kids, but to be that I must have Integrity and Honor first! People are saying I'm "cocky" and "arrogant", well maybe I have watched too many [sic] Muhammed Ali films or maybe I grew up having to fight my way home everyday or battle on street corners of Brooklyn for respect. My guards are always up, and maybe I took the situation too heavy."


Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Ya think, maybe?

Maturity takes time; not just one apology.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Monday, November 21, 2011 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
Ha - especially if the "appology" was the idea of LA Reid- which is who I'm sure is the only reason he appologised. he didnt think of it on his own. He should have (if he truely ment it) wrote out the appology that very night and got it out then - jmo

I hope his "humulity" is tested again wed night by being in the bottom 2 again

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, November 21, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't know, I think we should give the kid a break - he needed a big reality check and he got it, I think we should give him a chance to learn from it. We'll see soon enough whether he has.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Monday, November 21, 2011 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
so 2 acts are going home wed night - wonder if both acts in bottom 2 go home

Hayley Orrantia
Just a reminder that for this week only, the XFactor performance show is Tuesday night. We found out that this week will be a double elimination so 2 acts go home


Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
And his apology was to 'his fans'... "I seriously apologize to my fans, what I said and my emotions weren't directed toward you." LOL

So the people that didn't vote for him, he probably isn't thinking too kindly about still.

And, then the end where he puts in the excuse (having to fight his way home everyday, etc.) for his behavior.

He was told what to write to save his butt, and he wrote it.

I think he will go far in the competition. People see a tear and an apology...think he's a kid...he doesn't know any better and then... congratulations Astro, here's your 5 million!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
A double elimination would double my delight if Astro were one of those eliminated.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
I agree with Auntiemike 100%!!! Astro's five minutes of fame are up!!

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Tuesday, November 22, 2011 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
No one is spoiling tonight?