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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that Rachel has "it" as well for all the reasons that Auntiemike mentioned. Huge potential.

I'm really starting to dislike this show. The judges (especially Nicole and L.A.) are awful and the format is horrible. It just leaves a big yucky taste.

I don't see how Melanie can lose and at this point I'm not all that invested in the other contestants so I'll keep watching but it is a mess.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
If Melanie does not win I would think there is something TERRIBLY wrong with this show! It's been sort of a train wreck and the judges sure have gotten in the way of the talent! Simon needs to regroup if he wants to do this again...make it about the singers (and note, I don't mean rappers!) and not about the judging. In fact, their comments are usually totally inappropriate to help the singer and are very self focused. LA and Nicole have been a huge detriment to this show this year.

I do like to see the talent that is out there and to see how they grow and mature week to week so the idea of a singing show like this is not bad....just needs revamping, in my book.

I usually concur the most with Simon's assessments as well. A singer doesn't always need all the lights flashing, back up singers and dancing to present a good song. I guess there is talent and there is TALENT.

Holly
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07-21-2001

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Ha. That's what the producers of this show get for firing Cheryl Cole because of her accent! They replaced her with that Nicole person who apparently is ruining their show. Karma!

(I understand the UK version is not doing so well this season either. I've never watched the show. I got turned off AI years ago due to Paula's nonsense, so this new talent show never appealed to me at all.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1390959/Cheryl-Cole-SACKED-X-Factor-USA-Geordie-accent.html

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
I just watched Rachel on "Good day LA" and she was all good, she even talked about how she was a crack baby who was adopted... SImon told her he had bog plans for her ...

I watched Nicoles back stage interview and she said she wanted to vote out Marcus, but wanted him to go out with dignity, hoping americas's choice would have sent him packing .... pfffft

I say, if you sign on to be a judge, you do your job - it was about who did best in the "sing off" after all why in the heck have them then, if they dont count - she sould have had the guts to send Marcus home - hope she isnt back next season, she is a horrible horrible nasty mean judge- I also think LA is the very same- get rid of them both-

I love Josh, and want him to win, but I cant stand that would alos make Nicole a winner (to her) of all of the judges

So I realy hope Melonie wins the show-

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Chris is the one with the tat on his arm? Destiny or something, yes?

And Josh, kinda a long hair rocker type?

I liked both of them. Not quite a fan of Melanie but I think I may have caught her on a less than stellar performance. And wasn't all that impressed with Marcus at all and though he was a dime a dozen, with no star quality at all.

Rachel was cute but I think she'll be better in about five years. I'm really over the uber teens. I don't think they really have "it" at that age. They are cute and adorable, and yes, she can sing. I would never buy her music ever. But I'm sure there's a ton of teen fans who would.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
One good thing for Rachel, if the rumours are true of Disney wanting her then being out fifth surely means she has more leverage to go to Disney rather than be tied to some music label she doesn't want for a year. She'd be a great fit for Disney.


I've always liked Nicole in things she's done in the past but this show has not brought out the best in her. When a 13 year old has to tell you not to cry and it's ok, that's when you kick yourself out of it, NOT when you decide to dwell in some sort of pityfest for yourself. I was mad at her and Paula last week for being too attached to Marcus but at least then they had the excuse that Marcus performed better than Drew in the sing-off, but Rachel was the hands down winner last night, and Nicole knew it. I think she should be sacked for that, she couldn't do her job and it wasn't even one of her own acts.

To those saying America voted, the sing-off is to give another chance to those who are randomly at the bottom, and it's meant to stop things like the Chris Daughtry moment. If the person at the bottom steps up in the sing off (which Rachel clearly did) they get another chance, with the voters reminded that if they like her they have to vote, and they have to stop assuming she's safe.

I'm sure Simon will look after Rachel though, so that is something.

Hummingbird
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08-21-2002

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hummingbird a private message Print Post    
I have already posted my feelings about last night's elimination -- heartbreaking! But what's the big deal about Cris Rene's last song? I hardly remember the words but I think he repeated "where do we go from here?" about a hundred times. Sounded like the old-time records when the needle got stuck.

Pippin04
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10-26-2007

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pippin04 a private message Print Post    
TMZ.com is reporting that Rachel is meeting with Disney this month.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I hope so.. she does have the whole package.. all the talent, chutzpah, personality, etc.. and she's even a normal size for her age, too. Fun hair, too.

Nicole, it wasn't kind to keep Marcus again past his time to go and I was REALLY irritated when she kept looking to L A for what to do.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
You can't blame the show for who will end up winning. Viewers decide that part.

While Rachel was overdoing it (in my opinion.....stop throwing stuff at me!) I felt bad for Marcus having to stand there listening to the Rachel chant from the audience and then the booing. Everyone has feelings, no matter their age.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think Marcus realised it was time to go, after being in the bottom three for three weeks running, and probably didn't want to deny Rachel a slot when he knew his time was up sooner or later. In a way the only "win" for him was to lose, so it was a horrible situation to be in, up against a 13 year old girl.

Just another reason why they shouldn't have youngsters in the show - it's unfair on the other competitors too.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
If Marcus is planning on being an entertainer, he'll have to come up with personality on stage and he'll have to develop a thicker skin, too.

As for the viewers, the whole idea of the singing for your life is for the judges to decide who stays and Nicole wasn't up for it, or more likely, she heard from L. A. that they needed to keep HIM (L.A.) in the mix and get rid of one of Simon's singers. No guts. Rachel was clearly better last night and if she emotes to the audience, isn't that part of being a performer?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, December 09, 2011 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
My understanding is the X-Factor judges have two jobs for which they earn more money than most of us can imagine. One is mentoring their contestants and the other is judging and making decisions about who stays and goes. Nicole only did half her job last night. Pathetic.

Of course, Rachel is emotional.

a) She is young

b) She is an artist and almost every artist relies on emotions to make their performance great. You don't see a lot of unemotional artists.

Hummingbird
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08-21-2002

Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hummingbird a private message Print Post    
Marcus doesn't have an ice cubes chance in hell of winning.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, December 10, 2011 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
We have to remember there will only be ONE winner. All the others will fall by the wayside....sooner or later. I just wish Marcus had gone before Rachel.

When this program first started and I heard Rachel I thought for sure she would win this but now that I've heard Melanie and have seen her grow and develop and gain confidence I feel she will be the winner. This means that Josh and Chris will fall by the wayside too. They're all good in their own way and I hope their careers get a good boost from this show and exposure.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
I agree Marcus should have gone this week based on the save me songs. Rachel wasn't that impressive to me on the performance night and I figured it would be her and Marcus in bottom. Apparently everyone (including Rachel, I think) thought Marcus got the least votes and that's why they went to deadlock. SURPRISE!

So, I'm assuming it will be Chris, Josh and Melanie in final. All good.

Heckagirl631
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09-08-2010

Sunday, December 11, 2011 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heckagirl631 a private message Print Post    
I like Josh the best, but I've always loved my rockers. Melanie has a beautiful voice, but it's not my thing. I wouldn't buy a cd of her. Liked Chris's original song, which surprised me.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, December 12, 2011 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I'm w/you, Heckagirl631 - I love rockers & Josh has been a fav since b/4 they even broke them up in groups.

I couldn't even tell you who Melanie was until 3 wks ago. But, once the girl found her comfort & started showing a little personality to go along with that big talent that she has....WOW! I look forward to seeing what she will do now every wk. I would be fine with her winning this!

Chris: I loved his back-story & had a warm place for him from the start. I love how he is also a writes his own music & feel that he is at his best when he is doing his own material. I would also be fine with him winning this!

Marcus is very talented & lights up the stage. However, he is out of his league with these other 3 so, he should go next.

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
Hate Hip Hop Rap type music-Hate Mariah Carey type music, so Josh is the man.

Roteach
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06-01-2003

Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roteach a private message Print Post    
Rachel is going to be on Live with Kelly tomorrow morning.

Millymoe
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Millymoe a private message Print Post    
I've not been impressed with Xfactor. I think they've got too much going on. I'd like to see them fire Nicole (as a judge she needs to be able to choose no matter how emotional it may be) and eliminate the entire group category. Keep the other three judges and give each one an extra singer... voila! Also, I'd love to see the host replaced with Cat Deely from So You Think You Can Dance, she visibly cares about the contestants and is great with pacing and the banter with the judges.

Nessietessie
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02-03-2007

Tuesday, December 13, 2011 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nessietessie a private message Print Post    
I like Steve Jones as the host. He is under a lot of pressure to get the show done on time, and Nichole, etc, just ramble on and on and create drama, and the host has to hurry them along. I had never heard of him before, but I really like him. I love Cat Deely too, but she is busy! That show should be starting up again soon.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
No one spoiling???

Heckagirl631
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09-08-2010

Wednesday, December 14, 2011 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heckagirl631 a private message Print Post    
I was thinking tonight was the performance finale, for some reason. At least, there will be something to watch next week. Still love Josh! I've been voting for him like crazy!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 12:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
First songs were Ppesi Challenge songs (viewers' choice).

Marcus sang I’ll Make Love To You.
Chris Rene sang I Just Wanna Fly.
Melanie sang Hero.
Josh sang Come Together.

For the regular songs:

Marcus sang Never Gonna Dance Again.
Chris sang No One.
Melanie sang Feeling Good.
Josh sang Hallelujah.

I thought Melanie was excellent in both songs. Josh's second song was good but I think he lost the grit of the first song somehow, didn't do it justice.

I love Chris Rene but his first song was pretty bad, the second was better but still not wonderful. There's something about him though, I would hate for him to leave.

Marcus has got to go. His first song was pitchy, and the second was just wrong.

I think there's a good chance Chris will go tomorrow, because Marcus fans know he's at risk and will be voting like crazy. It could even be a shock with Josh or Melanie going because they're probably assumed to be safe.