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Justin Guarini's new CD

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Jbean

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
has anyone else bought justin's cd? i bought it tonight on the advice of a friend with the same taste in music that i have.
from what i have listened to so far, i like it. it is really soulful, kind of brian mcknight-like
songs. you gotta love justin's smoothe voice. it is definitely a different style than kelly's cd.

there is a duet with kelly called timeless, also unchained melody, and get there are on it. i give it a thumbs-up. so far, so good.


Luvmom

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvmom a private message Print Post    
I'll be picking it up on the weekend Jbean.I'll let you know once I've heard it.Did you hear that RJ Helton is releasing a singlein the next couple of weeks?I don't know exactly when.It was mentioned on his official website.You should check it out.He's so cute.........8-)

Luvmom

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvmom a private message Print Post    
oops.....I guess I should give you the website.........lol
It's www.rjheltononline.com

Jbean

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
lol luvmom, i tried to post at the same time as you. i hadn't heard that about rj...i am glad! he is a cutie, he was one of my favorites from the first season. he seems like a genuinely sweet guy. do you know if it is going to be a christian song? i had heard a long time ago that he got signed with a christian recording company...i will check out the site. thanks! :)

Luvmom

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvmom a private message Print Post    
He mentions that he will be singing a bit of christian and some r&b with a latin flavour so I'm not too sure,and I agree,RJ is definitely a cutie.I liked him right from the start.

Jasonfan

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasonfan a private message Print Post    
I love Justin's CD. I think it's so unfortunate (and unfair) for him that it was released the same day as Clay and Ruben's singles. Of course they'll get more publicity. I love that he has a variety of styles on the CD. He has such a gentle voice. I love the song "Inner Child". I can't stop moving when that's on!

Makays

Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 9:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Makays a private message Print Post    
Jasonfan

Go to cdnow and listen to Texas's song called Inner Smile. It sounds a little too much like Inner Child.

Hotlantan

Monday, June 16, 2003 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotlantan a private message Print Post    
According to early SoundScan reports, Justin is on track to sell around 50,000 copies this week, which might land him a debut inside the Pop Album Top 20. Final numbers will be available Wednesday.

Estimates for the June 10th releases:
Luther Vandross 400,000+
Radiohead 250,000
George Strait 150,000
Joe Budden 100,000
Steely Dan 80,000
Justin Guarini 50,000

In comparison, Kelly Clarkson debuted at #1 last April with first week sales of 297,000; her album "Thankful" is currently ranked #10 with sales of 75,000 last week.

Jasonfan

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasonfan a private message Print Post    
Where have all the Justin fans gone? Vocally, Clay and Ruben are stronger, but like Justin pointed out on Oprah, they are all such different artists, there's room for everyone. I worry that a poor showing for Justin's CD will reinforce the critics' view of the show-- no lasting power by the contestants.

Justin's singing or stage presence hasn't changed since being on the show and he was incredibly popular. Any theories on why his CD isn't doing as well as expected?

Seamonkey

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Maybe what they liked had nothing to do with his singing?

Kady

Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kady a private message Print Post    
I bought it and to be honest I haven't listened to the whole thing. I've only listened to the first few songs and they didn't appeal to me very much. :(

Meli456

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meli456 a private message Print Post    
I was a Justin fan last year (and Clay fan this year) and I can say why I wouldn't buy Justin's album now. When we first saw Justin, his style vocally was more like Clay's. He had a stronger, musical theater-type of voice that just melted me at first. After the first couple of shows, I said "I would definitely buy his CD". I know his little brother used to read his AI boards and a lot of people said Justin was "musical theatre" like it was a bad thing. Justin obviously altered his singing style to sound more R&B (probably a strategic move), but to me he has really lost all appeal. I think he has a sweet face, but not that attractive, so when he stopped singing with power and started doing his current style was when I stopped voting in the last AI. If you heard his audition when he sang the National Anthem, you'd know what I was talking about. He gave me chills in the first show, whereas I really like Clay's voice and personality but I don't think he's ever given me chills. Or Ruben either, for that matter. But I haven't heard him sing like that since about the middle of last season and I won't buy his music because I just feel I'm not getting the genuine product.

Pagal

Friday, June 20, 2003 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pagal a private message Print Post    
I feel the same way Meli but you said it a lot better then I could. He just doesn't seem like the Justin we grew to know and love.

Luvmom

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvmom a private message Print Post    
I just bought his cd and I guess I'm one of the few who loved it.He has a beautiful voice.It is so soothing and he's not bad to look at either!!

Sadiesmom

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Didn't Justin say something about being offered the lead in Cabaret? I think that would be an excellent move for him. This movie was not good, the fact that he vanished for 6 months was not good either. I think he has real issues with his management and anything he can do that people do not expect would be good for him.
I hear that he will be on the Idols Christmas cd with Kelly, Tamyra, Ruben, Clay and Kim Locke. I think he would do better to distance himself for the Idol trademark though.

I never saw Justin in AI1, so I am not a fan of what I have seen so far this year. I just do not wish him ill. I feel he has been poorly served by his management and desrves better than what they what they did for him.

Jasonfan

Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasonfan a private message Print Post    
Luvmom--I love the CD too, in fact better than I like Kelly's. It's energetic and entertaining. I really think his publicists would have been better off giving him a release date a week before (or even after) Clay and Ruben's.

Luvmom

Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvmom a private message Print Post    
I agree Jasonfan.I think that really hurt him.I like it better then Kelly's too.My 9 year old daughter says it's a tie for her.She's my little grown up pre teen.....lol.

Hotlantan

Tuesday, June 24, 2003 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotlantan a private message Print Post    
HITS Week 2 preliminary numbers: 22,568 copies sold, down 62% from last week.
In comparison, the AI Season 2 Compilation sold 23,333 and Kelly Clarkson sold 65,231.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I wonder if the pressure is getting to him?

Saw on a crawler on CNN this am.. that Justin Guarini was charged with dangerous operation of a boat in Texas..

Seamonkey

Tuesday, July 01, 2003 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The whole story is in the Justin to Kelly thread.. she was also involved.

Sadiesmom

Wednesday, July 02, 2003 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
His single is moving up on the media charts, so his fans are doing their job requesting radio play. Good for them.

Hotlantan

Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 1:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotlantan a private message Print Post    
A much fuinnier summary from TV Guide Online: :)

FROM JUSTIN TO KELLY TO JAIL?: Justin Guarini is in a boatload of trouble for nearly running over a girl with a personal watercraft at a Texas lake Saturday. According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the 24-year-old former American Idol runner-up was ticketed for unsafe boat operation after he ran the watercraft up on shore, stopping a few feet short of a 5-year-old girl. (Maybe his hair got in the way.) Guarini was with five friends, including AI winner Kelly Clarkson — who he still insists is not his girlfriend. If convicted, he faces a fine of up to $2,000 and a maximum 180 days in jail. Rumor has it authorities are willing to drop all charges if he promises to immediately put an end to his singing and acting careers.

Seamonkey

Thursday, July 03, 2003 - 4:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sounds fair to me

Hotlantan

Thursday, November 27, 2003 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hotlantan a private message Print Post    
Justin's Silent Night
By Joal Ryan

It sounds like Justin Guarini could use a little holiday cheer.

Amid reports the singer has been dropped by his record label, Guarini was MIA from Tuesday night's American Idol Christmas special on Fox.

The network told E! it "has no idea" why the curly-haired one did not participate in the hourlong special. The decision reportedly was Guarini's, and may have involved a scheduling conflict.

When Fox announced An American Idol Christmas last month, Guarini was billed as one of its stars, along with Idols Clay Aiken, Ruben Studdard and Kelly Clarkson.

In the end, Aiken, Studdard and Clarkson taped the special, assisted by fellow alumni Kimberly Locke, Tamyra Gray and Christina Christian. All are featured on the new album, American Idol: The Great Holiday Classics. Guarini contributed a solo track ("I'll Be Home for Christmas") to the collection, as well.

According to the latest Us Weekly, Guarini's Yuletide croon could be his final one for RCA Records. The magazine says the 25-year-old Idol has been shown the door by the label.

RCA did not return calls for comment Tuesday. Reps for Fox and 19 Management, the U.K.-based multimedia giant behind Idol, expressed surprise to hear of the reputed dumping.

It's already been a rough month for Guarini--two weeks ago, he was sued for more than $100,000 by a Pennsylvania couple over a 2002 traffic accident.

Next month may not be any easier. That's when Simon Cowell's new book, I Don't Mean to Be Rude, But..., hits stores. In it, the resident nasty Idol judge offers this assessment of Guarini: "He could end up as a huge star, or he could end up singing at weddings."

As of Tuesday, any sign that Guarini was ever signed to RCA was all but absent from the music giant's official Website. He was not listed in its artist roster, a roster highlighted by Aiken and Clarkson. A link to a contest called "Win the Jacket Off Justin Guarini's Back" redirected the user to an unrelated page. Still to be had was a press release from last January heralding Guarini as a young man "set to become a huge music industry name."

But when Guarini's self-titled solo debut from RCA was released last June, the album did not fulfill the label's prophecy. It opened at number 20 on the Billboard chart, with a non-huge 54,000 copies sold, and slid from there.

The soundtrack for his big-screen beach-party musical with Clarkson, From Justin to Kelly, fared even worse--no company dared released one. Or, perhaps it was the beach-party musical itself that fared worse--Fox did release that opus, and it bombed, grossing, if that's the term, less than $5 million in theaters.

As a solo act, Clarkson, Idol's first-season winner to Guarini's first-season runner-up, has had better luck. Her album, Thankful, went platinum (more than 1 million copies sold), with 297,000 albums bought in the first week.

Second-season runner-up Aiken raised the Idol bar in October, with his Measure of a Man moving 613,000 copies in its first week. It, too, has achieved platinum status.

Studdard, the reigning Idol champ, will be the next Idol to face the buying public. His disc, Soulful, from RCA's sister label J Records, is due out December 9.

Sadiesmom

Monday, December 01, 2003 - 12:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Justin has been poorly served by his management. He stated that he was given about 30% of what he wanted on the album and the others were assigned to him. I think that Clive Davis was too ambitious for his voice. I don't think Justin should have been given Unchained Melody because people expect it to sound a certain way and it did not because he used melisma instead of sustained notes. That did not help him.

They also kept jerking around what his single would be, they let Kelly drag on with her album so Justin could not get his out while he was hot. He also ill served himself, I saw the two Oprah tapes and she was much warmer to him last year, this year, she seemed very cold to Justin and paid more attention to Clay and Ruben. The name dropping got to me and the talk of being famous.

Then one day I saw him on the Tom Green show, which I would never watch, and Justin was warm and funny and witty and not so concerned about his status, he just broke out and had fun. I know some fans thought it was not dignified, but I think I started to see some of that charm that won people over to him.

I just don't like to see lists of how different competitors are handled differently. They are all different and if they want something, they have to ask for it. And, according to Justin's site, he needed to control his fans as well. Aparently they had some e-mail programs that got him into hot water with RCA.