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Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I've never ventured into this thread before, but I was curious to see what people were saying.

I do have one question...when did it become okay to ask someone what their sexuality was, and when did it become mandatory that someone tell us what their sexuality was?

So I don't know if he denied it or not...I don't care. To me, he had every right to keep it private. I think anybody has the perfect right to say "it's none of your business" if they are asked that question.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
That's what I don't understand either Keldogg. I just don't get it. Why do people think it was okay to ask Clay in the first place? And then, now, they are upset that he wasn't truthful when it wasn't their business to begin with.

Clay has even said he knew he couldn't raise his son to hide or to tell lies. So, it's not like Clay doesn't own up to the fact that he was hiding something.

I wish I could see Spamalot!!

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Tuesday, September 30, 2008 - 10:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
I agree no one has a right to ask you personal questions, but that does not stop them. My example of how I reacted was a few years ago I went to blockbuster to rent a movie and before they would rent to me they asked, no demanded, my social security number, so I made one up. I feel that those lies are justified.

There has always been gossip, when I was a child I remember seeing a gossip rag about hollywood stars in the living room and picked it up and started reading it (we read a lot growing up). My mother caught me and grabbed it out of my hands, I have no idea how it got into the house, but it was considered not good reading material. Today, tabloid journalism is everywhere in your face, so what was once a small thing on the side of the grocery store is now all over the internet and accepted as "news". If you track down stories, you usually find thay only have one source and that source can be very unreliable. I did that when there was a story about something that happened in my town and it got misreported, it was reported the same way over and over and over, even after I wrote to tell them the story was wrong. I don't blame the reporters, I don't think the papers and magazines have the budget to check sources anymore.
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I have seen Clay far too many times, at least in spamalot. I was only going to 3 shows and people kept flying in and I wanted to see them and I had the time. Of course, at some point I had to pay the credit card bill even though most of the tickets were gifts, I decided not to do that again way before anything was announced. There is a limit to how much money you can spend on seeing the same play. This year I have talked a few people into seeing other plays as well and am looking forward to White Christmas.

Sure I am still a fan, but unless the stock market improves, I am not going to be spending as much money on anything. And I am still a little sad because seeing things too closely had a different set of reality than the rest of the world and most people will not understand. He does have a lot of remarkable non-performing achievements, but most people won't see that, depth does not make headlines.

Well, I do have to get up to speed on the Amazing race now.
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The key to seeing Spamalot is to live in the most expensive area of the country - a double edged sword. With outrageous hotel rates, my friends stay with me. I can't believe how much people pay for hotels! If you live anywhere near by there are standing room tickets for $20.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 4:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Actually people have the right to ask you whatever they want but you have the right not to answer.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is exactly what I was going to say, Mocha. It may be in poor taste for them to ask but they have the right to ask. It is also your right and responsibility regarding if and how you answer. If Clay wants to tell them to mind their own business (possibly in a nicer way or not) then that is up to him.

This whole thing certainly hasn't changed my opinion of Clay. It makes absolutely no difference to me if he is gay or not. He is still the same person.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 01, 2008 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I LOVE LOVE LOVE White Christmas (off topic, I know, but I just had to say it!).

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Thursday, October 09, 2008 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittystj a private message Print Post    
Sadiesmom,

Did you ever find the quote?

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
N ote, there is apparently going to be an E! True Hollywood story on Clay. Word is, it will not be flattering.
I don't understand how someone who does endless charity work, doesn't drink or get arrested for any crime, tried to live his life privately, gets all this negative media coverage. I am still not over the wansering foot story on the airplane, when he fell asleep and his foot touched he footrest in front of him and the woman sitting there got up and started hitting him with a magazine to awake him up. That story is still alive and negative. I guess the moral of the story is don't get so tired you fall asleep on airplanes and have short legs. I am sure allthese mini scandals will fill this show.

E! is tryingto get people to give them their pictures and video, but you don't get paid and lose control of the use of the pictures, so not a good idea. I think they gave up and are trying to get their own video at the theater.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Sadiesmom, it is really puzzling to me why some people so vehemently dislike Clay, or at least want to knock him down in some way. He does do so much good charity work. As far as I know, he doesn't badmouth anyone or mistreat people. I can understand that not everyone would like his music or acting, but why do they even care about anything else about him? I don't get it.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Those E! True Hollywood stories always try to show any scandalous side of a star they can find (or make up), so until I see it air I'll reserve judgement. I usually enjoy their productions, but I keep in mind they are not Biography shows, they are more like US magazine. :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Sadie, I agree, it is horrible that a nice young man like him has to endure such meanness! You never hear anything bad about him (like some of the other youung stars, LIndsey. Paris, etc)

I hope is he laughing all the way to the bank and is a multi millionair, i hope he has a good money manager

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Well, it starts with one bully and then others see how well it works and joins in. Of course, bullies have their reasons, usually stupid. Add in some OTT fans that wrote nasty letters to the media for any little diss and I know one person who said she joined other idol boards to convince them how bad their idol was and why they should be a Clay fan and then those people get mad - all that happened is that she made people hate Clay. (Note: I know her but we are not friends, she attacks me as well as anypone else who disagrees with her. She needs help)

When Clay did the video with Bing Crosby, so many fans went over to the Crosby board, and most thanked them. One person said Bing was lucky that Clay wanted to sing with him and went on from there. The Bing Crosby fans were gracious and not phased by this though, but other boards were pretty angry about this kind of behavior.

So we have message boards that hate Clay fans, media with leter writing campaigns that hate Clay fans and generic bullies and shock, jock DJs who need to make nasty remarks about everyone finding Clay and easy target.

There are also some seriously odd people on the internet that apparently have too much time on their hands.

I guess rumor and insult is the new reality. Someday people will know that just because it is on the interent it does not mean it is worth reading. <- see my post. ha ha.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Lol at the end of your post, Sadiesmom! ITA about the seriously odd internet people with too much time on their hands.

There have been "fan wars" and lots of hateful stuff between fans of two of Season 6's Idols, too. I don't even want to put their names here, for fear some "odd troll" will come find them. LOL!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
the net has made more ppl bullies, imo. The weak ppl that wanted to be a bully but were too afraid can now do it and not be seen. It is much easier to be nastier on a keyboard than face to face.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
That's so true, Pamy. I fear for so many kids who don't have anyone protecting them when they are online.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Seems like Clay has another album coming out now that he is no longer associated with RCA - they are putting a best off album out. A little premature but it still makes a buck for the company.

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittystj a private message Print Post    
The song list is up at Amazon.
I'll buy it, of course. Gotta support Clay.
Glad he split with RCA.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Does anyone know what Clay is up to lately?

I'll buy the CD too. I love solitaire!

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Friday, March 06, 2009 - 11:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Ah, He is recovering from surgery on his jaw.

Ann
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09-27-2005

Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ann a private message Print Post    
"Does anyone know what Clay is up to lately?"


Clay is going to be on "America's Next Top Model" on April 8th, then he will make a cameo appearance on the finale of 30 Rock.

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittystj a private message Print Post    
Did you see the video of the David Foster show?
So good to hear Clay again.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Video? Where? What Show?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Maybe this one, Brenda? From 5/9/09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qU2U3-Yp5F0

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 20, 2009 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bee! Um... why is he singing in a mall? :-)

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Saturday, May 23, 2009 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittystj a private message Print Post    
He is not singing in a mall. Earlier in the evening he was singing with David Foster in his concert. This is in Las Vegas. After the concert there was a party, and this is at the party.