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Faerygdds
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08-29-2000
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:19 am
Well, zap2it shows it was on at 8... which it wasn't... basjetball. Shows it's on tonight at midnight (ugh), but reshows Fri and Sat at 9om, so I guess I'll catch it on one of these nights. 
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Skypilot
Member
10-11-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:14 am
Scorpiomoon, I actually liked the photo of Tyra with no make up. There are some women who I think are really striking and interesting looking once they remove their makeup. There is a bleary-eyed quality that works better on some women than others. I know that sounds strange but I thinks it's true. I've seen a few photos of Tyra with little or no makeup and I really prefer her without it.
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Catfat
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06-22-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 11:47 am
Heather who? Until tonight, no one even knew she existed. She wasn't right for this show. The next to the last girl, who whined about no one paying attention to her during her shoot, can't remember her name--I hope she takes a look at herself in that black lipstick, she was truly grotesque. I think she will be the next to go. I can't figure out why she got cast for the show, there are thousands of AfAm girls who are stunningly gorgeous and also have straight teeth. No amount of coloured eye shadow is going to make her look good. I am more and more impressed by Shandi, she is really workin' it. She looks good as a blonde. I liked Cadie's short spikey do. And the other girl, the dark-haired one who wears glasses sometimes, her short spikey do is also very good. They are all looking better and walking better.
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Realfan
Member
12-17-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 1:54 pm
I felt bad for Xiomora when they chastised her for not demanding the photographer attend to her while he was comforting Catie. She was probably worried that she'd come off like a mean diva--who wouldn't worry about that? It wasn't like she was in a position to walk over there and pull him aside and privately ask him to pay attention to her. The best she could have done was holler across the room, "Yo! I could use some help here!" which you know others would interpret as snotty. Man, Catie lost all my respect tonight. I think she's an attention seeker. Put a sock in it already! I like Yoanna alot. Funny how hurt Heather was that she wasn't picked for dinner. Just because Yoanna is your one friend doesn't mean Yoanna has only you for a friend. I think if she had smiled and been more enthusiastic instead of looking morose Yoanna might have picked her. Janice Dickenson?? I never even heard of her before this show. Before, Tyra called her "One of the first supermodels," so now obviously JD threw a hissy fit and demanded she call her "the first", like she did last year. I don't know who Gia Carangi was--was she before Twiggy? That's the only one I can think of who might be the first or among the first. And what the heck defines a "supermodel" anyway?
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Scorpiomoon
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02-01-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:24 pm
Skypilot: I totally agree with you about someone women looking better without makeup. We'll have to agree to disagree about Tyra. Maybe, for me, it was the dramatic difference between no eye makeup compared to having it layered on that shocked me. Truthfully, I don't find Tyra attractive at all. And every time she opens her mouth and uses outdated "street" slang, I want to throw up. Realfan: I know there is a detail definition of what a "supermodel" is out there, but it's not readily coming to mind. Tiggy was a well-known model and in the public eye. But it is my understanding it wasn't until the late 70's-early 80's that, not only were models becoming celebrities but were also making a great deal more money than models had in the past. Gia, Janice, Cheryl Tiegs and Christie Brinkley brought modelling to another level.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:25 pm
Great show as usual. I did feel kind of bad for Heather when Yoanna looked at her and then chose April instead, it was kind of cold. I felt bad for Catie getting that short short haircut, it is a bit shocking I'm sure. It looked good though and Yoanna's looks really good too. I agree Catfat about Xiumara, I like her, nice personality, but she's really not very physically attractive IMO. What was up with that AWFUL makeup job Camille did at the end, lmao... that was crazy!
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Skypilot
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10-11-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:36 pm
Scorpiomoon, You are so right about Tyra's "street" thing--or street "thang", as she would probably try to call it. She has no street cred at all in my opinion and I wish she'd stop with all that "homegirl" posturing. It's one of the fakest things I've ever seen a model do. In fact, it's just below Janice Dickenson's EVERY utterance in its annoyance factor.
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Gina8642
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01-25-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 2:54 pm
Did anyone else think they made Camille look worse? Last year the made Robyn, the bible thumper, lighten her hair because the dark hair was too much? Well, this year, they take Camille - who admitly has personality issues - and make her lighter hair jet black. I'll have to believe them that her braids weren't versitle enough but I have to say her braids were beautifully done and the ends were not braided and thus available for some styling. I know Camille has issues, but I think she is really beautiful and they made her look worse. That's a shame. If I had a vote, I'd ditch Catie for the drama queen act. She treated Xio terribly. No reason to backstab at the elimination ceremony, a polite 'thank you' or no comment at all would have been a million times more appropriate.
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Skypilot
Member
10-11-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:19 pm
It seems that they simply removed Camille's braids and gave her extensions. I'm wondering just how versatile the extensions are going to be unless they are made of real human hair.
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Catfat
Member
06-22-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:19 pm
Was it Cadie who treated Xio so badly or was it the fact that the others just sort of abandoned Xio to work with Cadie? I agree, Realfan, Xio was in a no-win situation. And Cadie really needs to get a grip. No one should be allowed to behave that way when it disrupts everyone's work. Really unprofessional of her. Is there something about her that is so impressive that the photogs and everyone are willing to work so hard to pull her together? Also, who was it at the table who was eating only pickles and wouldn't eat a good meal? Was it Shandy, who then went on to pass out? Shandy later said something about needing to sleep and eat regurlarly to keep her blood suger up. Could be she is diabetic or hypoglycemic.
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Meemo
Member
08-13-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:22 pm
great show. when i saw shandi all i could think was WOW. i like yoanna but she focuses too much on camille. just like her cruella de vil comment. this is a competition.
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Gina8642
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01-25-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:33 pm
I think Catie treated Xio terribly by attacking her at the elimination ceremony. I wasn't that upset with her during the shoot, if you're pertrified, you're petrified. Someone deathly afraid of heights can't just 'get over it'. I think the make-up guy should have done his job better, not Xio. Also, the photographers should have called the make-up guy over. There should have been someone else to babysit the 'upset' model. I would think there would be a safety person around (notice all the deep holes) that could have hung with her during the shoot. Where Catie really lost my respect was attacking Xio at the elimination for her kindness at the shoot instead of thanking her or keeping quiet. I also thought the little 'freak-out' after the elimination ceremony but before the actual elim was simple attention getting to avoid the disgust that would have been aimed at her for her dis-ing of Xio. Catie really disgusted me with that act.
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Gina8642
Member
01-25-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:35 pm
It wasn't Shandi eating only pickles it was Heather - the girl who was eliminated at the end.
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Danzdol
Member
05-15-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:37 pm
ok, I ran into this show by mistake. Gosh I felt like shooting myself. These women are nasty to each other but who does this Tyra Banks girl think she is and that other co-host judge of hers. WHo died and made them so powerful? oh yeah the producers who hired them and are paying them. I don't care what experience you have. NOTHING excuses you from making people feel so horrible about themselves. No wonder the world is full of sick girls who are chasing a dream to look like an airbrushed model. I was screaming at the tv because they made me so upset. NEVER in my reality tv watvhing history have I disliked 2 people so much with 15 minutes of tv time. Let me tell you, I am not one to bash anyone that bad but that was ridiculous. Telling the one girl "I bet her pictue is better then yours". The sweetest revenge for these 2 is going to be time. Yup , time. When they get so old and wrinkled that they are not going to know what to do with themselves. Ok, enough venting. I feel better now. Maybe I'll go shower and I will feel completely refreshed.
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Sunshyne4u
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07-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 4:05 pm
}} ** I sure love this new TV clubhouse look! ** Xiomaria was so caring....while others were being photographed instead of watching and learning what was wanted, Xio spent the time babysitting a hysterical Catie. Xio went first in the harness, all the while hollaring out "look it isnt that bad" to a bawling Catie who was sitting with the makeup guy. ** I feel so bad for Xio.....she got scr*wed at the judging by Catie. There is no doubt in my mind that Xio was so distracted that a good shot would have been almost impossible. Catie? All she had to do was stop crying and pout for a minute. Seemed a little 'attention seeking' to me...like the hysterics during the judging break. ** These girls are much more vicious and backstabbing then last year. It is a little difficult to watch. IMHO
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Jbean
Member
10-12-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 5:06 pm
i thought last night's show was great! is shandi diabetic? i didn't know that. yoanna mentioned her blood sugar was low or something like that. i thought shandi looked great. i guess i am rooting for her. i actually thought heather was the cutest of all the girls, but her age definitely showed. no one talking to her? please, talk to them first. and catie? well i never have liked her because she reminds me so much of heather graham, but last night i wanted to reach through the screen and strangle her. lol! i am scared of heights, myself, but dear god, they have them in a harness. they aren't going to let you die. and both her and zio got on my nerves at the elimination. they should have kept quiet about it. scorpio, i agree with you about janice being the first, and now apparently "ONLY" first supermodel. give me a freakin' break. i thought to myself "only because gia is dead". sheesh. and by the way, i have always been fascinated with gia. i read about her somewhere by accident and always have been curious about her since. this weekend i rented the hbo movie Gia, with angelina jolie playing her. very interesting. sad life she had. as always, jmho
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Scorpiomoon
Member
02-01-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 5:49 pm
Jbean: Me too. I wouldn't know nor care about anything having to do with modelling if it wasn't for my fascination with Gia. On another note: To add to what you guys are saying about Tyra's criticism about Xiomaria: For the love of God, the girl was being suspended high above the ground. What was she supposed to do? Tell the photographer to wait, stop focusing on keeping her balance, call out for the makeup guy and ask him to come over? Please.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 7:17 pm
I lost all respect for Katy last nite...that little finger waving bit at the judging was the last straw! I felt bad for Xio and think she is a great person, she really seemed to care about the others. I like her but...I still don't know how she beat out 2000+ girls, he mouth is horrid, I know teeth can be fixed, but why not pick someone that wouldn't need that much dental work.
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Yuhuru
Member
02-03-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:20 am
Danz, I think Tyra is the producer.
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Catfat
Member
06-22-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 3:23 pm
Not sure what your point is, Danzdol. The panel of judges are there to critique the girls, pointing out good things and areas that need improvement. If everyone keeps telling you that you are perfect, you will never get any better. The girls knew the format of the show going in, they knew they would be critiqued, they knew all but one of them would be going home. I think the comments by Tyra (the produce and owner of the show) and Janice were appropriate. And I can't remember any comments last night about wanting the girls to lose weight and to look "sick". Actually, Tyra wants to seem to promote plus sized models. I have seen vicious comments by people in charge of productions such as this one, but nothing of that sort happened last night.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
02-01-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 4:13 pm
I agree, Catfat. As much as Tyra and Janice annoy me, their comments are valid. None of the judges are the ones setting the standards in the modelling industry. They are simply being realistic and letting the girls know what would be acceptable and wouldn't if they were working professionally.
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Kappy
Member
10-05-2002
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:22 pm
Okay ~ I must have typed on here in my sleep because my post is gone to cyberland, lol. I saw a documentary on 4 girls trying to make it into modeling. The people are brutal to them when they go on interviews with even the tiniest of physical flaws. The purpose I saw of this show last time was to educate these ladies on what to expect and where to improve so as to help them have more of a chance of making it in modeling. I think in comparison to reality, the judges are being kind even though it seems brutal to us. Catie needs to head to Hollywood, period. She's right up there with Gwynneth Paltrow in my book. Xiomara just needs to get her teeth fixed and then I could see her get modeling jobs at a lower level, just not high fashion. I wondered how long before they would give Shandi contacts. And what's her name ~ the one who won the dinner cooked by the others ~ is bugging me big time. It's good to be confident but she has a definite 'high society' attitude that is making even Camille look better to me this week. The only one I like is Janescia because I agree with everything she says about the others, lol. But it's honestly hard for me to get behind anyone yet on this season.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 11:33 pm
I like Janescia also. But they keep making a big deal of the fact she is only 5'7" so I feel that she won't be there much longer. Although supermodel Kate Moss is only 5'7" I wonder if Shandi will ever look/be comfortable? Her makeover was great! But she still looks so uncomfortable.
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Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 11:56 pm
regarding judge Janice Dickenson: I found an interesting website on her history. http://v64.com/bio.html Apparently she was one of the first "Supermodels". (I had never heard of her before this show) Actually, she supposedly created the term "Supermodel" (this is in the gossip blog): Janice Dickinson on coining the phrase "Supermodel" ... . "I did coin the term back in 1979. I was working night and day like a fiend. Monique Pollard, my then agent at Elite said to me with her French accent, 'Janice, are you crazy? You are accepting every single job there is ... who do you think you are Superman?' And I said 'No honey, I'm Supermodel. And from now on you will address me as Supermodel.'" And in the biography, it sounds like Janice was already a known model as Gia was rising in the model world: "Being a leggy young supermodel in the late seventies demands a social life that compliments the job. Janice became a fixture at Studio 54 along with Andy Warhol and Truman Capote. Janice's new best friend became a young model on the rise named Gia Carangi and the two were inseparable"
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Catfat
Member
06-22-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:44 am
Interesting, luvmykitties. Thanks for posting that. Also, isn't Lauren Hutton 5'7" too?
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