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Reader234
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08-13-2000

Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
{{{hugs}}} Puttergirl

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 12:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Puttergirl, my heart goes out to you.
If doing the game is something you want to do then i want to play!

The genral discussion area has some threads that might be comforting for you.

(((Puttergirl)))

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 3:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Putter, I have mixed feelings about playing. Knowing the show was rigged from the start left a bad taste in my mouth. But I wouldn't want to abandon you either in playing the game.

So, here's the deal. I think you need to make the call. Do you think you can/want to apply the time to it? Would it be a good therapy, a sort of "get your mind off things" moment; to sort of get away from it all if only for a moment? If that's the case, then for your sake, I'll play, if it makes life just a little more bearable for you. But if you need your time to tend to you and your family, then by all means please do so, and don't worry about us.

Your polls are a big reason these shows are so much more fun to watch. But no way do I want to add to your stress. We'll be here when the time is right for you to do polls again. And goodness knows there won't be a shortage of reality shows to do polls on for a very long time!

Whatever you decide, know that our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, June 20, 2004 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who said what I was trying to say so much better!

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed the show yesterday... does anyone know if it replays on Comedy Central?

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know the answer to that, Carrie, but I do know that the finals in Las Vegas were repeated quite a few times so maybe each episode will be as well?

I did not watch this show last summer but was looking forward to watching it after tuning in for the NYC and Las Vegas competitions. I was a little shocked though to see exactly how the competition is working so far. Was it run the same way last year with the comedians voting on one person and then that person picking who they would go head to head with? I wasn't expecting to feel like I'm watching a Big Brother with professionals. I was really taken back by the gossip and manipulation that went on. Don't these people realize that even if they were to win the production deal, they would still have to have an audience that likes and respects them as a comedian in order for the production to work? That's going to be kind of hard to do after watching some of last night's behavior. Or maybe it's just me and my instant dislike of Ant and failure to comprehend how he's funny.

Beckyann
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06-23-2004

Wednesday, June 23, 2004 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kappy, that was how it worked last year, but the comedians weren't nearly as gossipy. They just seemed to want to have a good time and be funny. Sure there were some fights (Cowboy hat dude and Rich Voss fought over Voss' smoking) but nothing like we saw with Tammy and Bonnie. So apparantly the rigging by the producers worked - We got drama!!
Some thoughts: I thought it was sweet that Corey chose Kathleen to go to Colorado because she had been nice to him when he was starting out. Also, Ant is such a schemer! He is really out to win! I really prefer the comics who are trying to just have fun in the house. although Todd was pretty annoying (and funny) with his Attention song! I was so glad John beat out Bonnie. He is just funnier and one of my favorites. Did they say how much he beat her by? If they did I missed it.


Demeter
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08-05-2001

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 3:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought I heard them say he had 94% of the vote.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Carrie, Yes it is supposed to be repeated on Comedy Central on Saturday night. I missed it too...as I watching AFI's top 100 movie songs.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What a bummer that Bonnie had to go up against John. Obviously John was funnier but Bonnie is way funnier than half the people in the house. I wish she had thought longer about who she picked to go against. And I wish John had thought twice about voting for her.

The thing she was saying about not picking a woman to go up against - it's a HUGE issue in comedy, about women. It's bigger than Wal-Mart's women problems. Remember when Jerry Lewis said no women were funny? He stirred that pot again a few years ago when he said that. Women comics try to support each other because so many male comics think women aren't funny. Too bad, because Bonnie is funnier than Tammy and she should have challenged her on talent, not on politics.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The following article was found at Ain't it Cool News

Dave Mordal Silenced????
LAST COMIC Censoring??


Holy Dat Phan, I love “Last Comic Standing,” but I’d love it so much more if the show’s producers would cast the 10 funniest people auditioning. Dan Naturman was easily the funniest guy in the final 20, and for him to lose his spot to the likes of Ant is pretty fricked up.
Now arrives these rumors that Dave Mordal, easily the star – if not technically the winner – of last year’s edition of “LCS,” has had his comments deleted from the “LSC” Web site, reportedly because he disparaged the eminently disparagable Ant.
Here’s a typical email on the subject:

Hey Herc, thought you may want to include this on your next report on Last Comic Standing. It seems that the conflict and drama caused by last week's ep didn't end with the "judges" and contestants. At the beginning of the show NBC's website had a link on the LCS subsite to rants by LCS 1 alumni Dave Mordal, rants that are now inexplicably gone. In Dave's first op-ed piece he blasted Ant's success in making it to the semi-finals. Dave was angered by the fact that Ant has had a whole year since LCS 1 and still has no material and was quite confused at his being chosen. So right out of the box we find out that Dave isn't happy with the way season one has begun. So I don't think it's that big of a logic leap to assume that Ant making it into the house pissed him off something fierce. Now, not only is there no week two rant, but week one's rant has been deleted. Guess Dave's as fed up as Drew Carey and Brett Butler.
Is this true? Man, I would have loved to read Dave’s takes on what’s going on with this show. Come on, NBC, you’re better than that! Don’t bottle up the brilliant Mordal!
9 p.m. Tuesday. NBC.

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Aww shoot. I'm getting the feeling I missed an episode. I need my TVCH to keep my tv watching schedule straight. What night is this on again just to refresh my memory?



Luvmom
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10-17-2000

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tuesday's at 9:00 EST


Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*taking notes*

Thanks Luvmom.

Luvmom
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10-17-2000

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
YW!!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First NBC edited Dave Mordal's rant, taking all the stuff about Ant out. Then they obviously had a falling out and removed the entire thing. I'm so disappointed as I adore Mordal. Shame on you NBC. If you ask someone to give their opinion, you have to let them give it.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Becky, for the info on last year's season.

And thanks, Madelane, for the further explanation on women in comedy. I agree that Bonnie had a better chance of beating Tammy. I was hoping she would pick Ant to go up against but her anger at John got the better of her. He's easily one of the best in the house.

I couldn't stand Todd before but after this last episode, I'm liking him so much better then some others. I'm also starting to understand why he enjoys irritating a certain bunch of them so much.

What I don't get about Ant is that he really doesn't seem to understand that the tv audience has to end up respecting you in the end. And unless he actually shows us some talent, as opposed to only being manipulative, that ain't gonna happen. So again, what good would it be for him to even win this competition when he's so obviously lacking in talent?

One last question for those who watched last year . . . Does anyone ever get picked over and over again to go to the heads up elimination? And do they start to run out of material after awhile?

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dat Phan did get picked, I think three times.
He used same & new material on the head to head, and then picked his favorite stuff for the big finale where the American Public voted...which is why I am confused that he won. It was "old" stuff to the view audience and it stops being funny when it has been said over and over again.

Last year all the houseguests were present during the head-to-head show (in the audience) and the theatre was half the size of the place this year. It looks like John went home by himself (instead of in the 'team bus' like last year, so maybe the other houseguests were not at the show and didn't hear the two sets).

'squeek'

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, June 24, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I adore this show. I like to laugh & some of these folks sure give me reason. I knew Bonnie wouldn't be there long. Hey, does anyone remember who played the "safe" card (ala Geoff from last yr.). You know, saying they're funnier than someone that they knew wouldn't get the most votes just so they wouldn't be one of the choices that Bonnie would have to choose from. I don't like this stragagy & I hope the others pick up on it soon & get his butt nominated.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Friday, June 25, 2004 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Kona, for that info!

I like the show, T-Deb, because I love comics but I just had to admit that I was really taken back once they were in the house to see how the actual competition plays out.

I liked the laundromat challenge because it was such a difficult audience that it gave you an insight as to who has the flexibility to adjust to a strange situation. It's a tough business being a comic and I have alot of respect for what they go through. I guess that's why I'd like to see an honest competition and not one based on manipulations. I'm going to watch assuming that talent will win out in the end.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess it is all in taste. I think Tammy is much much funnier than Bonnie. I really did not even think there was any contest between the two of them. I do believe she should have gone up against Ant though, she probably would have made in through that contest.

Hobbs
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08-05-2002

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She probably saw Ant get through the early rounds without being funny and thought this part might be fixed too. And as far as we know, it might still be. The producers may have veto power.

My boss says our office is a democracy, but his vote is worth 20!

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bonnie didn't go up against Tammy because she knew she couldn't beat her (bull crap about the not picking a female IMO). I'm thinking she picked John because she didn't know that much about his ability on stage & he really hasn't shown much personality in the house so far. Bad move on her part because IMO John is top 5 funniest. Ant would have been her best pick - the only one she would have stood a chance at beating.

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fallen Comic Laughs Last
by Ben Katner

On last week's Last Comic Standing, Bonnie McFarlane became the first funny person given the boot from the finalists' ha-ha hacienda. But, when talking with TV Guide Online, the California girl sounded more relieved than bereaved. Has she told so many jokes that the punch lines have left her punch-drunk? In anticipation of tonight's episode (airing at 9 pm/ET on NBC), you can read on and decide for yourself.

TV Guide Online: I'll make this as quick as possible.
Bonnie McFarlane: I hope so. I've got things to do. I've got rice and beans with my name on it!

TVGO: Mmm... beans. On an unrelated note, John Heffron seemed to be really sweating during your head-to-head. Were you as surprised as I was that he wasn't eliminated instead of you?
McFarlane: Not really. I thought I had a pretty good set, but then they took me to my dressing room — you're not allowed to watch the other person's set. But I heard the laughter. It really was more than I got. I was like, "Okay, I guess I lost!" On some level, it was a relief. It was nerve-wracking being in the house.

TVGO: I bet. That Tammy Pescatelli was really gunnin' for you! Why didn't you challenge her instead of John?
McFarlane: People keep saying that to me, but I didn't know [she was being so two-faced]! She's got to be an incredible actress, because I had heart-to-hearts with her, which they never showed. [From the footage that aired], it looks like she totally hates me. But the day she said that not-nice [or printable!] thing about me at dinner, she'd had a really rough day, and I totally just brushed it off as her being a little sensitive. I even apologized to her and said I didn't mean to make her feel bad. Then we hung out together and joked around.

TVGO: That explains that. I can't wait to interview her.
McFarlane: When Kathleen Madigan was in Aspen, she came to me and said, "Kathleen thinks that we shouldn't vote for any of the girls because it would seem catty." And I really did think that three girls could make it to the top five, so I was elated. I said, "Yeah, let's not vote for each other. I'm totally on board with that." So when they both voted for me, [Jay Mohr] said, "Why wouldn't you take out a girl?" and I said, "Because it seems catty." I was basically throwing it back in Tammy's face, but [the audience didn't get it] because they never showed the part with her saying "Don't vote for women because it would seem catty!"

TVGO: Consider the record straightened. What was up with you saying you couldn't beat Kathleen in a head-to-head? It seemed like you were going, "Well, I'm in it, but I ain't gonna win it."
McFarlane: I never really thought about winning. I wanted to hopefully get on TV and be funny, so more people would see me and come to my shows. Then I'd make more money on the road and get more TV shows.

TVGO: How on Earth did you stand being in the same room as Todd Glass?
McFarlane: I think he's really funny. He's very deconstructionist. You have to understand comedy, and he breaks it down.

TVGO: Oh, I understand comedy all right.
McFarlane: When he was saying, "Everybody thinks I'm too 'on,' and I have to be not as 'on,'" he did that totally on purpose. He played games all the time which were really fun to play! I loved that Todd was there, because he was one of the only people who had a sense of humor.

TVGO: Uh-huh. But I still wanted to turn his volume down a notch or two.
McFarlane: That was probably in part the editing. He wasn't obnoxious. I mean, I wasn't around when he did "The Attention Song," but we're there for days and days, and there's nothing to do. There's no TV... one treadmill. You can't read a newspaper. We just all sat around. So when Todd did something that was funny, it was great! It was, like, "Thanks for being TV for us!"

TVGO: Since your anorexia bit went over so big, has Weight Watchers come around trying to get you to do endorsements?
McFarlane: [Laughs] That's funny!

TVGO: Told you I understood comedy! So what happened? Did Mary-Kate Olsen get the gig instead of you?
McFarlane: It would suck to be Ashley right now. She must be constantly going, "No, I'm not the anorexic one. I'm bulimic, she's anorexic."

TV Guide Insider


Kappy
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06-29-2002

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Essence!

That explains alot. If they don't have tv and they can't do anything with the latest current events then they would have to rely on what they've built up in their comic stash so to speak.