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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 8:02 am
Anyone think that barscene was planned?? I cant imagine a girl dumping a drink like that with all the cameras rolling. I wonder if that tough girl was an actress and they did all that for drama.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 8:17 pm
I kinda wondered about why no one was hurt by flying glass. The girl that was dancing and had beer poured on her had a huge cut behind her ear but no one else was shown injured. Maybe it was a TEST to see if that roughtough girl could control herself. She failed it seems. Just a theory!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 12:49 pm
I think she did well considering she told us she has had to fight her whole life. She did well to hold back and not punch that girl. I still say that whole thing was planned.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 2:36 pm
I keep thinking about that girl of and on this week. I wonder what has happened to her. My heart often breaks for her. What chance does she have in life?? I wonder if the producers did anything for her to try and hook her up with some counselling or anything?? I certainly understand why they couldn't choose her ( the danger of her getting physical with the others under the stress) but she just so deperately needs some help to change directions. Something like the Starting Over house.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 9:59 pm
Concerning Amanda's blindness, I am thinking I would do exactly what she is doing. It seems that modelling is a job that a person with limited vision can do just fine. No runway, of course, but still photography would be easy enough. She would be earning a living and could support her daughter and certainly wouldn't have to work longer hours than what she was able. How many other jobs could she keep on doing that would pay this much? Even if she went 100% blind, she could still do modelling if she had someone to take her disability into account. By the way, did Tyra and the staff know ahead of time that she is going blind?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 2:56 am
I have just had a thought. You can make a lot of money being a TOP MODEL. Once you have a good income you can AFFORD to have the best possible medical care (Isnt that how it is in the USA?) I still say that a Dr telling her she will be BLIND in ten years is bothersome when there ARE procedures to help. I wish her all the best but if Tyra feels she was mislead Tyra may not want her in the final group. I think they need to give the girl a chance though. She can obviously do the daily basics and interact normally with people or someone would have noticed something wasnt right with her. Just a theory!!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 8:20 am
I think they knew about her condition, if not as soon as she told everyone the camera crew would tell Tyra and producers. They could be liable for an accident if she has to do something that requires perfect vision.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 8:39 am
Even if she went 100% blind, she could still do modelling if she had someone to take her disability into account. By the way, did Tyra and the staff know ahead of time that she is going blind? Let's be realistic. This is the modeling industry we're talking about. This is an industry that is COMPLETELY unforgiving of any physical flaw. Why would they hire someone with any sort of a disability when there are, literally, thousands of other non-disabled models just waiting to do the same job? It's all about time and money. If there's one thing we have learned from this show it is that the best models are the ones who can give everyone what they want with as little fuss as possible. Disabilities=fuss. (Addiction=fuss as well.) Models, besides standing in front of a camera, also have to travel. As Amanda's eyesight deteriorates, how is she going to be able to travel to international cities? Someone would have to accompany her. Who's going to pay for that? Even young, teenage models have to travel alone. Sure, if she could model in her hometown--for companies and photographers she forms relationships with--that could work. But, sadly, the modeling industry wouldn't allow someone like her to advance to the big leagues. And yes, I am absolutely sure Tyra knew about her eyesight. She was probably cast because of it. You know, let's bring on Amanda for a few weeks to inspire all those young girls who have disabilities only to eventually eliminate her because she's not the norm (just as they do every season with the plus-sized models).
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Faerygdds
Member
08-29-2000
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:42 am
Retinitis Pigmentosa is still incurable. It is a degenerative disease where the retina actually pigments (thus the name). There are 2 forms of the disease. One that starts on the outside of the retina and works it's way in. This causes tunnel vision, night blindness, and poor peripheral vision. The second starts from the middle and works it way out. Which causes loss of central vision. Complete blindness is really rare, however..... My grandfather had both types. By the time he was 60 all he could see was a thin ring (he had BOTH types). He was pretty much blind! There is no sure at this time, although there has been research on vitamin A delaying the progress, but not halting it. It takes a LONG time to go blind with RP. Oh.... my great aunt also has RP. when I was little, her eyes were deep brown... and now they are the most brilliant shade of light blue... it's part of the disease. When I saw her on the show and then she said she was going blind and they cut to commercial, I remarked to my DH that I bet it is RP. He asked why I thought that and I told him because of the color of her eyes... Sorry to be so long winded, but I've learned about and seen what this disease can do first hand, so I have some interest in it!
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 12:34 pm
Faerygods, will her eye color change still? The way the judges kept complimenting her eyes made me believe that they do not know. I think it is a big factor in modeling. In modeling, how you work your eyes with the camera, "make love to the camera", if you will, is everything. Part of me wonders if someone on the staff does know and they told her to play it up for drama with the girls because it was weird how she "needed" to make such a public statement so early in the game.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:06 am
Who got kicked? I think the show ran a minutes past 8:00, and by then my VCR started taping apprentice! Uggh. Not much activity here...
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:23 am
Missed this show last night -- traveling back from L.A. -- anyone care to give me a recap? Thanks!
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 7:14 am
Quick recap: The 14 finalists go to NYC where they meet Tyra on a rooftop. Tyra tells them they are going to Jamaica for a photo shoot. Everyone is excited. On the plane to Jamaica, Ann, who is uncomfortable with flying, has a bit of a meltdown. Eva comforts her. They get to the photo shoot. Jay and J are there to meet them. Without getting any rest, they have to get to work. Jay is overseeing everything. J just kind of stands there. Only a few stood out as being really good. (YaYa was probably the best.) Most of them sucked. They went back to their hotel for one night. Jay and J sit in front of a laptop and a speaker phone talking to Tyra who is in a bed somewhere also with a laptop and speaker phone. They are all looking at the photos on their laptops and talk about the girls. Over brunch, Jay brings in an envelope with the name of the first eliminate girl. It was Magdalena. She gets up to leave, is hugged by the other girls and does her tearful good-bye interview. The girls go back to NYC. Their new pad in the Waldorf-Astoria. It's a huge suite with pictures of Tyra everywhere and themed rooms. (It all looks tacky to me). The girls are excited as they choose their beds. Ann was expecting to room with Eva. But Eva was the last to get a bed. When it ended up they weren't in the same room, Ann had a fit. She was angry at the other girls and then got angry at Eva. The next morning, Ann confronts Eva about not making sure they room together. Eva is saying they barely know each other and even though they have become friends, Eva still needs to be herself. Ann is saying that she wants Eva to win more than herself, how they will be friends forever and how Ann, when she gets married, wants Eva in the wedding party. Ann is crying. Eva cries. They hug. (It was really uncomfortable to watch Ann be so needy.) In confessional, the girls comment on how co-dependent Ann is. One says (I can't remember which one) that Ann's neediness will come out in the photos. Later that day, Kelle took them out to show them NYC. In confessional, everyone is complaining about Kelle--especially Eva who is annoyed at how Kelle doesn't embrace her black heritage and acts too white. That night, Tyra comes over for dinner. She sits them all down and asks them what they think their biggest physical flaw is. When they get to Kelle, she says she has "monkey lips" and this upsets the black girls. Later, they are talking about Kelle behind her back and them, I believe, Eva, goes up to Kelle and tells her what people are saying. Kelle starts to cry. Amanda comforts Kelle, Kelle says she now has one friend out of the group. Finally, the girls go to meet the judges. Tyra tells them if they win they get: -A contract with Ford -a photo spread in Elle -a $100K contract with Cover Girl Janice is there. So is Nigel. And so is Nolan with his tiny dog on the pillow. They looked at the photos from the Jamaica shoot and give the usual comments. The last two girls are Ann and Leah. Ann sucked because she was tired and lacked energy and passion. Leah sucked because she lacked rhythm and kept moving while the photographer was trying to shoot. Leah was eliminated. In the exit interview Leah says, as they all do, how we haven't seen the last of her. Next week: They get makeovers.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 7:45 am
P.S: The show airs again on Friday. Ok, after writing that recap, I must release my thoughts: I really do give Tyra credit for taking what could have been a lame premise for a reality show and making it into something watchable. And thank God she has something to fall back on. That music career didn't exactly pan out. But I feel like this show is getting too big for it britches, sort to speak. What exactly was the point of having 14 finalists? Having one eliminated during the first half hour of the show made everything seemed more rushed rather than heighten any drama. I hate that they took the models to Jamaica as their first "job". In past seasons, the girls worked up to that kind of challenge. It didn't feel right at all. Tyra's presence on the show seems to be decreasing with each season. I'm not exactly the biggest Tyra fan, but I'd rather see her than Jay. And making J Alexander a bigger part of the show seems pointless. He just stands/sits there and makes catty comments every once in awhile. When I first saw J Alexander during season one, I got the impression he was a serious pro and it would be an honor for a new model to work with him. Seeing him play a bigger role on the show, to me, lessens his credibility. He comes across as someone who just wants some TV time. It's only the second episode and already Tyra is giving her "You have to love yourself no matter what" lectures. Give it a rest, already. Remember the loft from season one? Remember how NORMAL it looked? That suite at the Waldorf-Astoria is over the top. Can you freakin' imagine living somewhere where revolving cylinders with Tyra picture lit up 24/7 existed? Good gravy! I was actually glad to see Janice--the one thing that hasn't changed. Seeing her do her usual, "I was the first supermodel" shtick, poke fun at herself and make some catty remarks was cool. But still, it felt as though everyone was being so low-key--like someone decided now that show is getting good ratings, everything and everyone has to be more polished. I know the core of the show won't change. I'm just not digging the more subtle changes.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 8:15 am
Scorpio, thanks for the update. However, I do think Janice has changed-plastic surgery or something. Her face looks better...
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:47 am
I am loving Janice more after tonite, I loved how she was making fun of herself and her comments on the girls are always right on!! The needygirl needs to go. I am wondering if she is gay and wants to be Eva's lover. I agree with the judges that the girls looked awful when they showed up for the judging...the big ass flower in the hair is soooooo last year!
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Monkeyboy
Member
05-27-2001
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 4:54 pm
I agree Pamy, I am loving Janice and her snarkiness! Yea i wonder why they all showed up to the judging looking the way they did? Some of them could of at least brushed their hair!
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:01 pm
Monkeyboy, ITA about their appearance at judging. Hopefully next week's makeovers will make a big difference in how they dress/look in the future. Loved, loved, loved the dog on the pillow!!!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:47 pm
LOL!! Beachy!! My 8 yr old(who will be 9 Sunday) asked if he could watch this with me, I said you prolly won't like it, no challenges, just a lot of girls fighting and talking...he looked up at the tv when they said what the next shoot would be and he said 'girls, bikinis, jamaca!!!!!...this is gonna be good!!!' LOL! he watched it and loved it! He likes Kelly...he always goes for the person ppl pick on! He has such a gentle soul
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Pirate
Member
06-20-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:52 pm
LOL Pamy, my friend Joe said the same thing, and he has 30 years on your son. 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:56 pm
LOL!!!
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, October 01, 2004 - 10:49 am
Well, I guess my guess for Leah being the winner is a little out the door. Good thing I'm not a gambler. The girls did look really bad during the cut. Maybe they told them to so next weeks makeover is that much more dramatic? Alot of them look short to me but I know its probably just an optical illusion because they're all probably tall but look short when grouped together or something.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, October 01, 2004 - 1:31 pm
You have to be 5'7" to apply.
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Roteach
Member
06-01-2003
| Friday, October 01, 2004 - 6:26 pm
Gee, Boston doesn't get the rerun because of baseball. At least when the playoffs come about, Fox will have it and not UPN. I am sorry that Magdalena was cut. She was a Massachusetts girl.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, October 01, 2004 - 9:27 pm
Julieboo, Janice did have a facelift. I saw her on a prome for one of those ET type shows with lines drawn on her face and she was saying something like "Try to put the scars back in my hairline so they won't show." I also like her catty remarks and snarkiness, but I don't think she was the first super model.
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