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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 11:07 am
Scorpiomoon ... I'm late to this, but I wanted to thank you for the recap. I just read it today (traveling on a junket with you-know-who (not Voldemort)) ... and am bummed that I didn't realize it aired again last night. Thanks again for giving me that recap!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 11:12 am
Thanks for that info catfat. I, too, was wrong about Leah. Now my list is down to four: Amanda, Eva, Tocarra and Yaya.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 1:53 pm
I watched the show BOTH times...I find I catch different things in the scenes. This competition was difficult!! I have walked on lava beach rock in Sneakers and had trouble standing. SPIKE heels?? on Rock?? No wonder most of the girls had so much trouble staying focused on posing. If you fell you'd be cut up by those rough rocks. ANYWAYS, I never pick a favourite until Makeovers. There have been a couple of teasers shown and I want to see how they finish off Amanda. She looks like Anne Lennox with that long bleached blonde hair. . We shall SEE!! I always look forward to see what the makeover people do to these poor girls LOL. I wonder if they do skin regime as well. Yaya has got very bumpy skin. Some types of laser will fix that right up.
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Roteach
Member
06-01-2003
| Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 3:29 pm
Head's up for Bostonians. UPN is supposed to show ANTM tonight instead of last night. Yay! I get to see it. Bummed that Magadalena is out.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 8:07 pm
I felt sorry for the last girl cut... it was pretty clear to me that Tyra orchestrated it out of jealousy. I saw it coming when Tyra scowled at Nigel's comments about her eyes & body, and made fun of her saying she looked like a 'soccer mom.' She looked all too happy to deliver the bad news. The same thing happened last season when April (the asian) told Tyra she had a crush on Nigel.... BIG MISTAKE. The next cut she was gone 
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 11:31 am
Is Nigel Tyra's boyfriend?
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 7:21 pm
not that I'm aware of
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 11:51 pm
Ok,so i know that i will get flack for this, but you know what i don't care...i have an issue with Tyra putting plus size people in the mix...tocarra should not be in this show at all!!! I am all for Tyra doing a Plus Size Model show, but to have them on this show is just ridiculous...and seeing her in a bathing suit next to the others just made me mad, mad, mad. Its like she is making a fool of her on the air, and others who are big. JMHO
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 3:09 am
I won't give you flack but I won't agree either. I think Tyra should be commended for producing a show that casts women of all shapes, size and color. I don't know how many times we complain about shows like Big Brother only going after the "beautiful" people instead of real people. Tyra has a show thats all about beautiful people yet she chooses to show many different ways women can be beautiful. I do think it is wrong for them to choose a plus size model then not have appropriate costumes for her, like in the last episode where they didn't have a bathing suit in her size. They should adjust to have many different options for her too or else she is at a disadvantage.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 6:38 am
You know what, I agree with you both!!! I agree that Tocarra really doesn't have a real chance, but on the other hand, i am happy to see that this show does have someone "plus" size included.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 10:13 am
Actually, I agree with you both too LOL!
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 2:00 pm
Is Nigel Tyra's boyfriend? No. Tyra's dating some basketball player from some team in California. I have an issue with Tyra including plus-sized models as well. Tyra has a show thats all about beautiful people yet she chooses to show many different ways women can be beautiful. Yeah, but here's the thing: Tyra uses these plus-sized models for symbolic reasons. Tyra is big on "Be yourself! Accept who you are!" (blah, blah, blah). Those women are cast strictly for the purpose of illustrating how, supposedly, all shapes and sizes can, and should be, accepted. Tyra doesn't include these models because she honestly thinks one will make it to the end. They are there to get Tyra's message across. And, I suppose, that's great for all the "normal"- sized teenage girls watching the show. They get to be inspired. But it seems pretty unfair for the plus-sized model to put herself out there when she's only there to serve as an example, but doesn't have a hope in hell to succeed on this show.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 2:41 pm
Excellent points Scorpio!
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 8:23 pm
the 'soccer mom' who got cut looks like a young Sheena Easton http://sheenaeaston.com/singles1.html
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 10:10 pm
While I agree with you, Scorpiomom, I will still give her credit for doing it when no other reality show wants to. There is hardly any reality when casting agents look past applicants and recruit T&A girls from malls and bars. And have every challenge be about bikinis. We have always had the "token" something. It took years for a particular "type" to go from "token" to mainstream. There had to be one sitcom that showed their married couple in one bed versus twins, there had to be one show that showed a bi-racial marriage, there had to be one show that showed a single woman in the workforce. These were things that may have been done to garner ratings or not but they were done and we have to acknowledge them as trailblazers. I don't mind if she's making a statement with the plus size girls. That statment needs to be made and like every other unchartered course, babysteps is the way.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, October 04, 2004 - 11:22 pm
Good perspectives! casts women of all shapes, size and color. I dont see this...so many of these girls are the same size and shape. Usually each season we get ONE big girl and ONE almost TOO thin girl. Doesnt Covergirl have Queen Latifah as a cosmetics model?? Now Q L is a big beautiful black women similar to Toccara. If this was legitimate competition I would have expected BOTH larger sized models to have been included at least until the Jamaica Bathingsuit comp. Then one could have been cut if need be. I personally feel that the "soccermom" must have been the only strong Christian girl therefore filled the casting requirement. I truly dont know how else the gorgeous largesized girl got left behind when soccermom got thru! Just my opinion!! Having just one big girl is like having one orange entered into an Apple competition. No comparison...therefore no hope.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:19 am
Tyra should see the $ potential and have a America's Next Top Plus-Size Model show. This would be interesting to see Plus-Size models of all races and cultures compete for the prize. Maybe Emme could be a judge.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:27 am
Who's Emme?
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:50 am
She is a famous plus size model who now has a clothing line (sold at Nordstroms). She has been on Oprah in the past helping women find the right fit/style for their size/shape. Here is her website http://www.safesearching.com/officialemme/allaboutemme/press/0202_familycircle.shtml
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 5:00 pm
\i(I will still give her credit for doing it when no other reality show wants to.) If Tyra was doing any other kind of theme for a reality show, I would wholeheartedly agree with you. If this was legitimate competition I would have expected BOTH larger sized models to have been included Not only plus-sized, but what about petite models or disabled models?
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 5:36 pm
Scorpio, she is having a contestant who is going blind, isn't that considered a disability? I am still of the opinion that a blind model could do fairly well except in runway modelling. Granted that she will need extra directions and care will have to be taken for her safety, but I think it could be good.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 12:23 am
I also think allowing girls to only be 5'7 qualifies many of them for the petite category. No true runway model is that short. And that is short in a models world. It is another example of Tyra not obsessing too much about the "rules."
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 9:09 am
The woman who wins this competition will by necessity be very tall and thin, as that is what is required by the profession at this time and if she wants to works she must conform to certain physical qualfications. However, I like that fact that Tyra is presenting women of other looks as being beautiful enough to be on the show. Don't have a favourite so far, but I like Amanda's face & eyes and her spunk for getting on with it in spite of her oncoming blindness.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 9:28 am
The woman who wins this competition will by necessity be very tall and thin, as that is what is required by the profession at this time and if she wants to works she must conform to certain physical qualfications. However, I like that fact that Tyra is presenting women of other looks as being beautiful enough to be on the show. Don't have a favourite so far, but I like Amanda's face & eyes and her spunk for getting on with it in spite of her oncoming blindness.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 6:41 pm
I am having a hard time enjoying this season--so far. Have these girls not watched the first two seasons? Crying over getting your hair cut? That is so old and not even close to be dramatic or funny anymore. Admitting to someone you are bulimic and getting defensive about it? Oh please. Been there. Seen that. And you all know what's coming soon: the girl who freaks out over having to do a nude shoot. A few of the girls looked better after their makeovers. But I thought many of them looked hideous. Amanda's bleached hair didn't do anything for me. Neither did whatever they did to Eva's hair. Kelle looked horrible too. Julie blabbing about not wanting to be a model was so ridiculous; especially after having to listen to her many "I want Indian women to be represented in this industry" soundbites in confessional. Even though Amanda comes across as flaky, I like that her maturity helps her do well in front of the camera. And I like Yaya. She has an all-around beauty about her. But the others, to me, aren't attractive and don't have neither that spark or hunger we've seen from girls on past seasons.
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