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Archive through December 27, 2003

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Seamonkey

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer we agree on the Polish judge, Alex, Ryan, Peter the Belgian rocker and the lack of respect from the judges..

Will is coming up up now . not looking forward to Light My Fire.. probably not the best choice.

Will seems pretty unemotional singing that song, no matter what special effects they use.

Wanting to ff to Kurt..

OK.. he ended it on a high note..

Seamonkey

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm.. I think I'll put them in this order.. have NO idea what order the world will come up with..

1. Kelly Clarkson- USA
2. Kurt Nilson- Norway
3. Guy Sebastian- Australia
4. Peter Evrard- Belgium
5. Alex- Poland
6. Ryan Malcomb- Canada
7. Will Young- UK
8. Jamai Loman- Netherlands
9. Diana Karzon- Pan Arabic
10. Heinz Winckler- South Africa
11. Alexander Klaws- Germany

Kitt

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I voted for Kurt (Norway), although I really like the Aussie guy too. And of course I have a soft spot for Will :).

I'd be surprised if Kelly didn't win, although it's possible there will be a bit of political voting, though I hope not. I think Kurt, Guy and Will will be 2, 3 and 4 (though possibly not in that order).

Apart from the German guy, who was pretty awful, they all sang very well imho.

Dognutbc

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Anyone have the number for Kelly Clarkson? (I'm in Canada)

Kitt

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wilson - what show are Ant and Dec bringing to the US?

Jimmer

Thursday, December 25, 2003 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The number to vote for Kelly in Canada is 1-866-943-6507 (at least that was the number shown when it aired in Toronto).

Also, from other comments I've read, I have the impression that the order of the performances is different depending on which country you are viewing from. Go Kelly! I didn't think she was great tonight, but I really like her in general.

Wink

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 12:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Kurt
2. Kelly
3. Ryan
4. Will
5. Guy
6. Peter
7. Heinz
8. Jamai
9. Alex
10. Diana
11. Alexander

Muse

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 2:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Puttergirl, here's my order:

1. Kelly Clarkston- USA
2. Kurt Nilson- Norway
3. Guy Sebastian- Australia
4. Will Young- UK
5. Diana Karzon- Pan Arabic
6. Peter Evrard- Belgium
7. Heinz Winckler- South Africa
8. Ryan Malcomb- Canada
9. Jamai Loman- Netherlands
10. Alexander Klaws- Germany
11. Alex- Poland

I split my vote -- half for Ryan, and half for Kurt. I like Ryan in general, and I thought Kurt had the best performance of the night.

Speaking of Kelly -- I thought her performance was really bad for her. Her version of Natural Woman on AI was much, much better, and not just because of the high note. That being said, she's still very good, and I thought she was better than everyone except for Kurt. I don't care if she wins or not, though. I don't think it'll really hurt or help her career if she wins or loses, and I doubt she's especially invested in it. It might help some of the others, though...of course I'm not familiar with their public perception in their countries, so I don't really know.

Tishala

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This morning the KTLA morning news (channel 5 in Los Angeles) showed Alex, the Polish girl, to make fun of her. They said "the 80s called and they want their untalented singer back."

If was a funny line, even if it was a bit unfair.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm.. that makes me want to march into KTLA with a cattle prod and urge those news types up on the stage and make them sing.. maybe in Polish :)

Then let people poke fun at them..

Now, the Polish JUDGE.. he's fair game, IMO. I think he in particular doesn't GET IT that while Simon is being harsh, he is also actually evaluating the singers, not just trying to make a sarcastic joke which may or may not have anything to do with the performance. And he doesn't have to read his lines, either :)

Pamy

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
here's my guess

1. Kelly Clarkson- USA
2. Ryan Malcomb-Canada
3. Guy Sebastian- Australia
4. Will Young UK
5. Alex- Poland
6. Kurt Nilson-Norway
7. Peter Evrard- Belgium
8. Jamai Loman- Netherlands
9. Diana Karzon- Pan Arabic
10. Heinz Winckler- South Africa
11. Alexander Klaws- Germany

Hotlantan

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not necessarily my choices, but how I predict the results show will go...

1. Kurt Nilson - Norway
2. Kelly Clarkson - USA
3. Will Young - UK
4. Guy Sebastian - Australia
5. Diana Karzon - Pan Arabic
6. Ryan Malcomb - Canada
7. Peter Evrard - Belgium
8. Jamai Loman - Netherlands
9. Heinz Winckler - South Africa
10. Alex - Poland
11. Alexander Klaws - Germany

Ginger1218

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Kelly Clarkson- USA
2. Kurt Nilson- Norway
3. Guy Sebastian- Australia
4. Will Young- UK
5. Ryan Malcomb- Canada
6. Heinz Winckler- South Africa
7. Jamai Loman- Netherlands
8. Alex- Poland
9. Alexander Klaws- Germany
10.Diana Karzon- Pan Arabic
11.Peter Evrard- Belgium

Ladytex

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Kelly
2. Kurt
3. Guy
4. Jamai
5. Diana
6. Will
7. Heinz
8. Peter
9. Ryan
10. Alex (female)
11. Alexander

Puttergirl

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Based on the order we've picked so far, this is how TVCH thinks it will turn out:

Idol1st2nd3rd4th5th6th7th8th9th10th11th
Kelly-US82         
Kurt-Nor25 2 1     
Guy-Aus  811      
Will-UK 215 11    
Ryan-Can 11 42 11  
Jamai-Neth   1 2241  
Peter-Belg   1 223  2
Diana-PanArab    3 1 33 
Heinz-SAfr     24 13 
Alex-Pol    2  2222
Alexr-Ger        226


Kady

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Kelly - USA
2. Kurt - Norway
3. Guy - Australia
4. Will - UK
5. Ryan - Canada
6. Diana - Pan Arabic
7. Heinz - South Africa
8. Jamia - Netherlands
9. Alex - Poland
10. Alexander - Germany
11. Peter - Belgium


Shelb724

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
personally, i don't know how diana will end up anything higher than 10. sorry, but i felt a little nervous about what she was singing and i don't have a problem being politically incorrect here. i wish they had at least translated it.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's a site I found: WIcontestants

Llkoolaid

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
1. Kelly
2. Heinz
3. Kurt
4. Will
5. Guy
6. Alex
7. Ryan
8. Alexander
9. Peter
10. Jamai
11. Diana

Wilsonatmd

Friday, December 26, 2003 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
the tricky part is trying to figure out how some of the other countries will vote, since we don't know how their shows were edited.

1.Kurt-I think he might do very well in the European countries, perhaps just enough to beat Kelly.
2.Kelly-It'll be close, but she's probably in top three regardless of how the votes pan out.
3.Guy-A dark horse to win this. Probably in the top 3 performance wise.
4.Will-Still in the 1st tier of singers by a little bit, and the other European countries might favor the European winners slightly more than the others. An outside shot to win.

5.Heinz
6.Peter
7.Ryan
The 2nd tier...they'll probably be in the middle of the pack in all the votes, so they could be in any order.

8.Diana (she might get some good place scores-because others did worse, and she had the guts to not sing an English-language song.She's sort of in the middle of the 2nd and 3rd tiers)

9.Alex
10.Alexander
11.Jamai
The 3rd tier...no one did horribly, but some were just clearly better than others.

I think the winner will end up with 70-80 points-12 points from their own country, 3 or 4 first place finishes, a couple of 2nds and 3rds, and one or two outlier positions (like 5th place or worse).

Oregonfire

Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really enjoyed watching WI. I liked Kelly, Kurt, Ryan, Will, and Diana--in no particular order. I love Middle Eastern music and was so glad she brought that to the table.

Some of the others had fabulous voices (i.e. Guy from Australia) but just didn't do it for me. I found Ryan from Canada most compelling for some reason. I liked his phrasing. I think they (the judges) underestimate "geek" sex appeal. He reminds me of a potential Elvis Costello.

Alexander from Germany and Alex from Poland were uncomfortable to watch--they just seemed off and not really up to snuff.

I loved watching the judges bicker and the Polish judge make an *ss of himself. I thought the Belgian judge was exceptionally well spoken, and I thought the long-haired rocker from that same country was very well-spoken with Simon and put him in his place. Well done, Belgians!

Sorry, no idea what the scores may be--Kurt and Kelly will be up there for sure. :)

Ginger1218

Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only thing I have to say, is that considering how much America is disliked in Europe (or so they say), Kelly might not do that well.

Jimmer

Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Right or wrong, other factors beside talent certainly influence the voting. Among these are appearance, song selection, judge's comments and as the Ginger suggests, personal feelings about the represented country. For those who think country isn't a factor (and I agree that it shouldn't be), it was a greatly emphasised part of the show. It's too bad if talent doesn't win out. I hope that the country being represented does not influence people's voting. For example, as a Canadian, I happen to like the U.S., but when I vote, I'm voting for Kelly - not for the U.S.A.

Calamity

Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I only saw Kelly-US and Kurt-Nor so I can't really judge, I guess. But just based on these two, while Kelly has a phenomenal voice, I don't care for her diva-esque singing style. Kurt has a great voice and he also seems to understand that he's singing a song, not performing vocal exercises. My vote would go to him.

Jimmer

Saturday, December 27, 2003 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to say that I really liked Kurt's performance! Which brings to mind another factor that may influence voting - how recognisable the person is based on past performances. Kelly and Will will probably benefit from general "recognizability" and past performances, whereas the lesser known Idols don't have that factor working for them.