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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 8:19 pm
Scorpio, I do agree with you about the whole Walgreens comment. But I don't expect anything else from this show. They are all hypocritical, dismissive, shallow, cruel, and they wear ugly clothes. It's a modeling show, so I suppose that's what it's all about. You could find fault with almost any statement Janice makes. The vibrator comment? Sheesh. Pamy, it was quite romantic. We think of Venice as "our place". We love it when Italy is on TV. The 2nd Mole had Vicenza, where we lived, as one of their locations and I loved seeing it again. That said, I don't want to live there again! That scene of the mopeds? The traffic in Italy is so crazy. The country is crawling with beautiful, haughty women and charming, but slightly oily men. I hope one day we can go back for a romantic visit.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 8:46 pm
MY DH was born in Italy (his Dad Navy too) I love the Venetian at Vegas!
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Purplecow
Member
12-08-2003
| Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 9:42 pm
Although Shandi is 21, she thought herself unattractive and undesirable and this is her first boyfriend. He has probably held onto her by letting her feel that no one else would want her. Or maybe that's just in her head and the boyfriend isn't reinforcing it. Now she discovers that she's beautiful and desirable and young men are lining up to be with her. She's basically like a high school girl who just got her braces off. I hate seeing what she's doing, but I think it's only to be expected given the situation. Once Shandi is self confident, if ever, she'll be able to settle down in a mature relationship. JMO, of course. 
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 11:11 pm
I agree, Purple. Shandi doesn't exactly exude self-confidence. Whatever the outcome of this show, I think she will feel better about herself when she sees how pretty she really is. I think she has the face, body and uniqueness to win, but I just hope she doesn't let all that other crap with the boyfriend, etc., drag her down. Hopefully, that is just a ploy to make us think she is having a meltdown.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 8:41 am
I'm so bummed out. I just got through watching what I thought was the first episode of America's Next Top Model. I thought it was the one that you guys are watching right now. I didn't know there was one last year and that was the one they are showing over here. I stayed away from this thread until I got to see the first episode and I thought I could go to the front of the thread and just read what you all had written about the first episode. After only a couple of posts I know the whole outcome of the season that I'm watching now This thread should be called America's Next Top Model II 
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 9:11 am
Thanks for your comments Purplecow and Catfat. Like I said, I haven't watched the whole season so I appreciate your illuminating me on the Shandi situation. I'm definitely going to try to catch it this week so I can see what happens with that phone call!
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 6:02 pm
I feel so protective of Shandi, as I think she is really vulnerable, not just right now but in her whole life situation. I hope Tyra picks up on that and deals with it in an appropriate way. I like Tyra and think she is really decent and caring about the feelings of these girls. Didn't like Tyra's sex video song, though. Way beneath her.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 8:57 pm
AZ..good idea!...how come you are just now getting the first one?
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 9:41 pm
Azriel ~ Where do you live? If you want to discuss last season, I'm sure a few of us are more then willing, lol! Catfat, I too feel protective of Shandi. And I really hope that phone call doesn't end it all for her.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:20 am
Kappy and Pamy, I'm in Singapore. On some of the reality series like Survivor and American Idol we get the current season. On others we get last season. Since I've been away from the States for awhile, I'm just not up on everything that has already shown there. This show was new to me, so I thought it was new to the States, too. I'm going to stay away from this thread I don't want to know how this season ends
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 2:20 am
I agree with Laura.....Shandi seems not to have the stability to be the winner of this show. Tyra made a speech about how you have to be selfconfident, self reliant, be secure enough to travel alone, and have a Good solid support network of family. Shandi fails in each of the categories, however, she is pliable. Whatever they want, she'll do....like a puppy looking for approval. Let us not forget her history of drug abuse...that alone I would think, would ruin her chances at the BIG TIME. ** I predict Shandi will make it to final three. Just a theory! ** At this point, unless April loosens up I think she may be next to go. She has been accused of being too clinical and analytical. ** Yoanna, How are you still there? The girl has a beautiful face and flawless skin, but her weird shaped body is disconcerting. Barrel chest with no bosom, thick waist and really muscular legs...very strange proportions. I think she DOES have an eating disorder by the colour of her teeth. Throwing up makes your tooth enamel go kinda greyish and translucent looking....Yoanna has that exact look. There is no way she can win as BEST overall, in my opinion. :-)
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 7:35 pm
Where's the show tonight???? Isn't it on this month? I seem to have a baseball game instead!
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Purplecow
Member
12-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 8:39 pm
It was a review of the previous shows, Jan. You didn't miss anything.
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 9:00 pm
Okay, after seeing next week's previews again, I think there is no doubt that Shandi actually does have sex with the Guido. Her boyfriend shrieks, "You had sex with him?!?" and Shandi sobs, "I'm sorry, baby." Wow. Having done some majorly stupid things of a similar variety, I really empathize with Shandi. However, I wouldn't have called the boyfriend. I'd have waited until I returned home (sobered up at least?) and told him before it was on TV. Or maybe have begged Tyra not to air it at all. I hope it doesn't ruin her chances. I wonder why we didn't see the drag queen thing? I don't remember it at least. Jay Manuel and Janice's sniping was pretty funny.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 9:11 pm
they didnt tell us it was recrap tonite!!!! damn it!
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:56 pm
Sunshyne--I looked at Yoanna's teeth tonight, they looked white and healthy to me. Why on earth would you say they looked grey and transparent?
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 12:22 am
What was that, like a total of 6 extra minutes in the whole episode? What a waste of time, I have to admit... The only thing that made it bearable was my candle, glass of Cabernet, and my puppy snuggled up to my side while I watched...
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Roteach
Member
06-01-2003
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 5:29 am
Whew! I thought WSBK in Boston was being mean to us. They showed the Red Sox and when the game was over and they could have gone to the elimination phase of ANTM, they started the 10 o'clock news early. I thought they'd show the news and then ANTM, but the continued with news. I am so glad that I didn't miss anything. Wonder if they slated a review show knowing that AI was a 90-minute episode?
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:09 am
I saw a little of the recap show last night. I haven't watched any of this season, so seeing the recaps was a great way of cheating. Did anything happen with the winner from last year? I haven't seen her around. Anyhow, this morning on Regis and Kelly, Kelly said she watched the show last night and she didn't know they weren't going to show anything new until the last ten minutes because it wasn't advertised as a recap show...and then she finally figured it out. Kelly was HYSTERICAL though when she showed her runway walk--she swears the drag queens stole it from her. She did her little walk with her look of "boredom and disdain" as she and Regis described it, and it was PERFECT! Kelly said "I can't BELIEVE I was born 5'2"!" etc. OK, enough yammering from me. I have nothing productive to add. 
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 11:53 am
Tishala: Adrianne, the winner from last year has done some stuff. She is the spokesmodel for a diamond company and has done some magazine work. SHe also made one guest appearance on "All of Us". But she's no "super model" by any stretch. From all accounts, she's just like so many other models--busting her butt to make a living.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:45 pm
I liked the recap show, even though I have seen all the episodes--usually twice (they are rebroadcast on Wednesdays here). One thing that was good was Tyra summing up why each model was let go. And two of the girls, I totally forgot about, one was Heather and the other a Heather lookalike. And I agreed with all of the decisions about who to let go. I think Catie was MUCH more striking with long hair. I had forgotten how crooked Xiomora's teeth really are, hopes she gets them straightened GO SHANDY! At least her looks are unique.
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Tobor7
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 2:00 am
First off, Tyra's music video sucked. No concept. And I resented the fact that I had to watch it. If I wanted to watch MTV I would be watching MTV. I picked her from the very start, and I still say it looks like Shandi is the one to win. Mercedes is too ethnic to win (they call it "commercial") and the short-haired girl (Yoanna) does not have the body. April may go before Mercedes. Shandi was a total nightmare on the phone with the boyfriend though. The pathetic jealousy is such BS. I would have been done with her the second she started that crap. There is no place for it. Doesn't she know that there is NOTHING she can do if a guy is going to cheat. The jealous behavior only pushes him off faster. All her major character flaws came out. Her lack of self-esteem, lack of self-confidence, immaturity and lack of human insight. She will make a perfect super-model. (Of course, because she is "only" 21, she gets a total pass for her behavior... oh... yeah... plus the stress of being on a TV show... and the editing... (did I say the stress?) and any other excuse we can come up with. <snicker><cough><wink><spit>)
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 5:53 am
Tobor7: I agree and disagree with you. I agree that Shandi will probably win this thing. But I don't think she'll make the "perfect supermodel". Supermodels have, to borrow a phrase from Simon Cowell, "star quality". Shandi may have the face and the body, but she doesn't have that extra umph to take her to the next level. Also, I don't think she has enough toughness (for lack of a better word) to make this a cereer. Adrianne, for example, is one tough cookie. She can put up with crap. I don't think Shandi can. She'll probably be around for a year or so and then go back home.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 11:28 am
From today's New York Post: http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/20430.htm March 11, 2004 -- NOW the Janet Jackson hammer has dropped on "America's Next Top Model." UPN ordered Tyra Banks, the show's executive producer and host, to cut out portions of next week's episode - which has been highly promoted as "the orgy" episode. The group grope happened late one night in Milan, Italy where four of the show's up-and-coming models were working on the show. The contestants invited four young men they met there up for a party and nature apparently took its course from there. "Next week's episode contains material that UPN felt was inappropriate for broadcast," said a source close to the show. "They asked the producers to edit it down - it exceeded what would've been appropriate for broadcast." The order to make the cuts came "very recently," the source said. "It was just part of the natural editing process." Promos for the racy episode were shown at the end of last week's "Top Model" - including a scene with one contestant sobbing over the phone to her boyfriend back in the U.S. that she had cheated on him the night before. UPN was never expected to permit the showing of any graphic scenes from the eight-way tryst, but enough of it was supposed to be included to give viewers a good idea of what happened that night. UPN officials and Banks declined to comment. The networks have been cracking down on anything that threatens the established boundaries of decency since the outcry over Janet Jackson's boob bowl halftime show stunt last month. UPN is a sister network of MTV which produced the halftime show and CBS, which broadcast it. Losing the juiciest parts of the episode is bound to be a disappointment to Tyra, who claims she did nothing to promote the incident - but only found out that it had been captured on camera when she began to edit the show. "My girls on the show were doing the nasty," Tyra told late-night talk show host Conan O'Brien last January. "There's eight people making out at the same time kinda in the same vicinity." "I don't want to say orgy - but I just said it," Banks said.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 1:01 pm
Oh darnit! I love you Janet, but why why WHY???? Well they have to still show Shandi on the phone w/ her boyfriend, are they gonna cut her saying she had sex? this is just ridiculous, man, I feel like moving to Europe. I watched the recap episode the other night even though I've seen all the episodes, I enjoyed it, and I agree Catfat, Catie did look much cuter with long hair, but I think because she really doesn't have a very cute face and isn't really attractive enough for that boy-cut. Sunshyne, thank you for agreeing with me about Shandi. I will actually be pretty disappointed if she wins cuz then I'll feel it was decided from the get-go. The only episode IMO that she rocked was the dancing episode, but as you said Scorpiomom, Shandi does not have the "it" factor, no way, to me, it's gotta be April or Mercedes, and personally I find Mercedes much much cuter, so she gets my vote. Oh and Sunshyne I agree with you about Yoanna, except I honestly can't say about her teeth, but as far as her body being the reason she won't win, it's to bad cuz I really like her, I think she has the hootspa and personality to pull it off, and of course a beautiful, unique face.
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