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Archive through January 02, 2004

The TVClubHouse: American Idol/Canadian Idol/Other Talent Shows ARCHIVES: World Idol: World Idol--Dec 25th: ARCHIVES: Archive through January 02, 2004 users admin

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Mak1

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He was my favorite from the very first note he sang.

Babyboo

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL

Kady

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I found Kurt's album on ebay but it doesn't have Beautiful Day on it.

Kurt Nilsen

Frenchy

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rslover...I agree! He kinda reminded me of not as appealing Billy from Canadian Idol...and I too am baffled at what the big deal was with his appearance! Get over it!! Half of them were not attractive anyway!

I really like the fella who won and I am relieved Kelly did not get it. Not that I did not appreciate her performance, but it seemed to me that it was an obvious choice (Even at the end of the first break before commercials, the announcer said something like "Will this be Kelly Clarksons night?" Come on!! Enough allready! She even admitted in an interview recently that so many people have convinced her that she is the obvious choice for the win...and she seemed to be letting it go to her head, though she would obviously never admit to it.

I was impressed with the outcome of this!

WORST MOMENT OF THE SHOW???

HELLO?? Posh Spice and her skanky "LIP SYNC" of a performance, on a program that showcases vocal talent??!!!! And she was just spending her 4 minutes making love to the camera! Only in the UK would they have put her and SIR ELTON JOHN as the guests musical performers!! WHACKED!!!

Anyway, good TV for New Years day!

Reiki

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Kurt's voice was perfect for that song. He had total control over his voice. The low notes. The high notes. And every note in between. I am glad that he won. It would have been nice for Kelly it, but frankly she doesn't really need it. Hopefully Kurt will be able to benefit from it.

Does anyone know were there any perks involved other than the title World Idol? Monetary? Contract?

Legalboxer

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
glad kurt won... and did you notice that from the beginning, kelly was the ONLY one not smiling during the results.. even the people who came in at the bottom each time were smiling and kelly never showed any smile every time she came in second.. i am not trying to judge her or say she has to act a certain way but its like she thought it was a sure bet she would win and how was anyone else finishing ahead of her.. who wouldnt want to be 2nd in a world vote???

Jimmer

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not the greatest show. Very rushed and the performances by Posh and Elton John really didn't add anything to the show IMO.

Having said that, I'm very happy that Kurt won. Kelly did look awfully tense and I think that's understandable as she probably was the one with the least to win and the most to lose by this thing. I like Kelly but you can't help cheering for the underdog and in this case it was a deserving win - a great voice and a great performance. A truly remarkable victory in that all but one country voted him in first place.

Hotlantan

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's the final summary for anyone interested:

UNITED KINGDOM
Will
1. Kurt 2. Kelly, 3. Peter, 4. Heinz, 5. Guy, 6. Ryan, 7. Diana, 8. Alex, 9. Alexander, 10. Jamai

BELGIUM
Peter
1. Kurt, 2. Kelly, 3. Heinz, 4. Alexander, 5. Will, 6. Alex, 7. Jamai, 8. Guy, 9. Ryan, 10. Diana

AUSTRALIA
Guy
1. Kurt, 2. Kelly, 3. Heinz, 4. Peter, 5. Will, 6. Ryan, 7. Diana, 8. Alex, 9. Jamai, 10. Alexander

UNITED STATES
Kelly
1. Kurt, 2. Heinz, 3. Diana, 4. Peter, 5. Guy, 6. Will, 7. Ryan, 8. Alex, 9.Jamai, 10. Alexander

PAN ARABIC
Diana
1. Alexander, 2. Ryan, 3. Heinz, 4. Alex, 5. Peter, 6. Kelly, 7. Kurt, 8.Will, 9.Guy, 10.Jamai

POLAND
Alex
1. Kurt, 2.Peter, 3.Kelly, 4. Will, 5. Heinz, 6.Guy, 7.Alexander, 8.Jamai, 9.Ryan, 10.Diana

NETHERLANDS
Jamai
1. Kurt, 2.Kelly, 3.Will, 4. Peter, 5. Guy, 6. Ryan, 7. Alexander, 8. Alex, 9. Heinz, 10. Diana

CANADA
Ryan
1. Kurt, 2.Kelly, 3.Peter, 4.Heinz, 5.Guy, 6.Diana, 7.Will, 8.Alex, 9.Jamai, 10. Alexander

GERMANY
Alexander
1. Kurt, 2. Kelly, 3.Alex, 4. Heinz, 5. Diana, 6. Will, 7. Peter, 8.Ryan, 9.Guy, 10.Jamai

NORWAY
Kurt
1. Kelly, 2. Peter, 3. Ryan, 4.Will, 5. Heinz, 6. Alex, 7. Jamai, 8. Guy, 9. Diana, 10. Alexander

SOUTH AFRICA
Heinz
1. Kurt, 2. Will, 3. Kelly, 4. Ryan, 5. Peter, 6. Guy, 7. Jamai, 8. Alex, 9. Alexander, 10. Diana

FINAL TOTAL
Kurt 106
Kelly 97
Peter 83
Heinz 80
Will 72
Ryan 62
Guy 56
Alex 55
Diane 45
Alexander 45
Jamai 36

Reiki

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wish this would give Simon and the others of his ilk the clue that what counts most among fans is talent. I had hoped they had learned that lesson from Ruben and Clay. Every time I see the Claymates screaming and crying I remember Simon thinking that Clay wasn't marketable.

Jimmer

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There are lots of famous rock stars that most would not consider "good looking" by general standards (Mick Jagger, Elton John, Rod Stewart, etc.), but have screaming fans that adore them.

Tatyana

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Legalboxer, I agree with you, Kelly didn't look happy at all the entire way through the show. I think she was told she was a shoo-in by a lot of people and can't believe she didn't win.

I'm glad Kurt won, wish Ryan would have done better. ;)

Naja

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hmmmm, I found a downloads page at his band's website while I was looking for a bigger photo of him. 3 songs there. (I scanned the thread and didn't see it posted already, sorry if it has been)

http://www.fenriklane.com/eng/download.html

Hotlantan

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kelly has a very good reason to be "pissed" - there was virtually NO upside to her appearing on the show, and the contract she signed stipulated that she had to waste over a week of her holidays on this crapfest for a total fee of $1400!

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2002/09/18/idol_contract/print.html

Ladytex

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heck, I'd not be happy if I were her, either. She had nothing to gain from this show and lots to lose, just look at all the anti-Kelly-ites coming out of the woodwork. She did a great job and I was proud of her and her performance. Kurt did a great job, too, I'm happy for him.

Babyboo

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 10:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Even so, you should never sit there when the cameras are on you and appear to be a sore loser.

Seamonkey

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reiki, to be fair, Simon and at least one of his ilk predicted that Kurt could well win this thing..

Anyway.. just finished watching and I'm not surprised and I am pleased.. voting was pretty consistent at the top, except the Pan Arabic voting.. I mean Alexander getting their top vote?
But, different tastes obviously.

Now to go back and read the thread.. didn't see any sore losers, but.. haven't checked it all out.

Winner is a nice guy with a great voice, its all good..

Seamonkey

Thursday, January 01, 2004 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't think she looked sore.. just not grinning and after reading about the $1400 for going twice to UK during a holiday I bet she wanted to spend in Texas.. for what I agree was a no-win situation for her.. I don't think I'd be grinning either.

Now I know for sure why they announced they were signing Clay to the same contract as Ruben -- right away, didn't want to give anyone a chance to give him a better deal..

Over and OUT!! YAY Kurt! Boo, Simon Fuller!

Oh and as for choosing based on looks.. uh, at the time, wasn't that exactly what choosing Kelly was.. she wasn't the "looker", she was the singer. Sure, she's gained some polish since then but she still hasn't altered her body or gone Brittney, AFAIK.. Kurt should fix his teeth only if he wants too.. works for Letterman ..

Jbean

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i seem to be the oddball here, but i was disappointed that kelly didn't win. it seems a lot of people here don't think she deserved it. and i am not saying that kurt didn't deserve it, but kelly is my girl and i wanted to see her win. i mean, that girl sings her ass off! i didn't think she looked pissed, i thought she looked kind of upset or sad. as for her looks, yes, she is a cute girl, but her voice is definitely her asset. as seamonkey said, she wasn't the one with the looks on AI, and she hasn't sold out and become skank-•••• looking. JMHO, of course. i just felt she needed some more standing up for. (thank you, seamonkey, and ladytex).

Maris

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After watching the shows it appeared to me that somehow they led Kelly to believe she would win this. By having her do critiques of each performer and the judges comments, I think she was led to believe that her competing was a mere formality. It became apparent as the numbers were racking up that Kurt would win and I think Kelly was just not prepared for it and I felt a lot of sympathy for her.

Simon indicated that Kurt could be the sleeper in the competition but for the most part she was led to believe that this would be a cakewalk. I thought Kurt did a great job as did Kelly and either one deserved the win.

Ginger1218

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the reason Kelly did not win was purely political. Not to say that Kurt was not very very good, but there was a reason that every country voted for somebody else to beat the U.S.

Naja

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The whole thing sort of reminded me of how things were back in school. If you were already the best student in class, you got judged at a different standard than the rest, which meant a lesser student than yourself could actually end up with a better grade. Not saying Kurt is lesser at all, but Kelly's score may have been lesser than it should have been because she was judged by the rest of the world at a higher standard, since only greatness was expected from her already.

Babyjaxmom

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
At least Kelly can take comfort in the fact that hardly anyone in this country was watching:


Quote:

The super-action team-up of 11 winners of American Idol-style competitions from around the globe, including inaugural U.S. champ Kelly Clarkson, was watched by just 6.5 million Stateside viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. The two-hour special, broadcast on Christmas night, ranked 50th for the TV week ended Sunday.




Here's the link to the full E-Online story:

http://www.eonline.com/News/Items/0,1,13189,00.html

(Sorry, can't get the hyperlink thing to work, since there are commas in the URL.)

Maris

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I could believe it Baby. I only watched both shows last night. I would imagine that Christmas is a low viewing date for most folks.

Jbean

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ginger, i thought that was strange, too. i mean kelly didn't win any country besides her own? i agree with the political thing. i think she should have a least got a few other countries votes for #1. oh well, i still think she kicks ass, and i will continue to buy her music in the future. world idol or not.

Reiki

Friday, January 02, 2004 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't see it as political. Most of the other countries had placed her in third place, which was 2nd place in terms of actual votes (discounting the automatic vote for that countries contestant).

I'm not saying her performance wasn't good. I think most people voting honestly thought Kurt's was better. Even amongst US voters he was the top vote. (Again, not counting the automatic top vote for Kelly).

I was a little more surprised at some of the low scores that the Canadian Idol got. I thought Ryan did pretty well and he would have been in my top 4 or 5.

I myself thought how sad it was that all of them had to spend their holiday away from home. I hope they got to enjoy something of a celebration if nothing else.