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Sallycat22
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08-31-2005
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 6:37 pm
I just watch the Today show that I had recorded. Russell says he is going on a try out for American Idol. Was that a joke? Has that been mentioned on here?
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 6:39 pm
Spear... thanks for that quote... It is rather limiting to be confined when in such a beautiful spot. I recall Survovor Africa (with Ethan, Lex, Tom) they originally were to be near the water, then the gov't said no. The group was confined to the middle of nowwhere on a National Reserve... they were given a water tower as there was no stream for miles... no water challenges, no beautiful terrain, no home built hut (they were given huts)
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 6:59 pm
Russell was joking about AI .... the cut off age is 29, he is too old. lol
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 7:46 pm
From my favorite exit interview site: Exclusive: Sandra Diaz-Twine talks 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' win link realtiytvworld
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 8:08 pm
Naja, thanks! That couples therapy video is so funny! Russell actually admitted that jury management is his flaw.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 8:08 pm
I don't think Russell was the best player since he totally ignored the social aspect. He could have manipulated, made the moves he did WITHOUT putting everyone else down and rubbing it in their faces before they were even voted out. He so enjoyed putting others down and that is not being the "best player". If he hadn't been so cocky, he would have had a much better chance at winning. I would have been happy with either woman winning. Sandra really had to scrap her way toward the end, while Parv had others to hide behind. To me, the best survivor is one who has great strategy and implements it while doing their best to not alienate those voted out.
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 8:40 pm
Wow, this answers the question I've had but hadn't seen anything. From the Reality TV World interview with Sandra I just posted, here's how the votes ran. I've been puzzling over how Amanda, J.T. and Colby voted: Reality TV World: Heading into that final Tribal Council, how confident were you that you could secure enough jury votes to win? Which members of the jury did you specifically think would vote for you and why? Sandra Diaz-Twine: I thought at that point that I had four out the five [needed to win]. Parvati in all her interviews, which you'll talk to her later, won't you? Reality TV World: Yes. Sandra Diaz-Twine: Okay, well I don't need to say what she thinks. I thought I had at least four out of the five. I knew I had [Courtney Yates'] vote because she was my friend. [Candice Woodcock], I know her from Fayetteville. Candice went home because of what she did. [Amanda Kimmel] because I tried to save Amanda and Rupert because he had been my friend before. Although I voted him out, when I went to the end with Russell and Parvati I knew he would give me his vote. Everyone else was applauding Parvati about her strategic game and thought she was a very physical player, so I figured, "Okay I'll get four and she'll get five." But when I got six and she got three I was like, "What!?!" Reality TV World: Okay, so you know you got six votes -- who cast the other two votes for you? Sandra Diaz-Twine: I got all five Heroes and Courtney. Parvati got Jerri, [Danielle DiLorenzo] and [Benjamin "Coach" Wade].
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, May 17, 2010 - 8:51 pm
Thanks Bisc, I've been wondering too.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 2:23 am
Here are some more videos. Sandra and Dalton (the video says unavailable right now, but it will be there soon) http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/05/17/survivor-talk-sandra-russell/ The final 3 on Jimmy Fallon (Looks like Jimmy was a Russell fan) Part 1 http://www.hulu.com/watch/150130/... Part 2 http://www.hulu.com/watch/150126/...
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 7:20 am
Thank you for bringing that over. I tried to stay awake to see it but just couldn't do it.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 1:30 pm
Question - there has been some discussion where I work as to whether Parvati has won twice. Anyone more up-to-date on their research than I am? When she was up against Amanda, was that her "normal" season of the fans/favorites seasons? Didn't she go to the end in both? If she did NOT win one of those, who did?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 1:33 pm
Parvati was 6th in Cook Islands (where Yul beat Ozzy), winner over Amanda in Micronesia (Fans V Favourites) and I guess runner up this time.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 5:36 pm
THANK YOU!!!
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 6:36 pm
Latest interviews from my favorite exit interview site, I posted Sandra's yesterday: Exclusive: Jerri Manthey dishes on 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' link realitytvworld Exclusive: Russell Hantz discusses 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' link realitytvworld Exclusive: Parvati Shallow talks about 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' link realitytvworld
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 7:05 pm
Those are good interviews. Both Jerri and Russell seem a bit delusional. Jerri is so sure she would have won had she been in final 3 with any of them, but I just don't see it.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 5:54 am
I have a funny little tidbit. Sandra posts over at SS, and I guess Monday when she was on Regis and Kelly, Russell also came with her, but they didn't let Russell come on stage to be on the show and he got really pissed off...LOL
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 7:36 am
Naja, thanks for that tidbit!!! I bet both Kelly and Regis thought he was too much of a poor sport to be showcased.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 7:44 am
Ha Ha! I'm glad he was not allowed to appear on the show.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:03 am
This was an interesting read this morning ... can't verify any of it, but an interesting read:
quote:VERY INTERESTING post I found about the whole insider info on Survivor and the politics. I've been feeling a little bit funny about the casting for sometime. I do hope they start going back to basics though, like Jeff Probst seems to be pulling for.
quote:Erika Shay has worked in casting for a number of seasons, since her stint on TAR 5 when her team was the first eliminated. She and Parvati have been BFF onMySpace for quite awhile. Lots of photos of them together. Parv's Myspace url is Hot Casting Chick. http://www.myspace.com/hotcastingchick Lynne Spillman is the casting director. She too is a friend of Parvati's. Russell was recruited by Boo of Fiji. (Supposedly Boo and Russell are co-owners of a bar.) Hantz was originally interviewed for Pirate Master 2, but the show bombed. Boo is an old friend of Krista, she of Big Brother knife in the kitchen fame. Boo brought James to casting as well. Erika Shay was a senior casting associate for Pirate Master and Big Brother as well. Her credits are on imdb. http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1671771/ WHAT'S BEEN ON THE GRAPEVINE Back in August, there was a huge Survivor Reunion in Florida, just before the finalists were to fly out. Billy Garcia posted that Jeff Probst and Lynne Spillman were having a big fight because Spillman wanted her protogees on H vs V. Parvati being Lynne's main gal. Many people questioned why Parvati ever got a slot on Micronesia. She was like the Danielle or Candice cast member that season, never accomplished anything of note in her season. Her casting connections are why. Spillman has been big on recruits on the show. Jeff has wanted more "real" people and applicants. There were supposedly a number of people who were told they were on or almost certainly on S20, who didn't get go. Ozzy is one of them. Gossip is that he was cut with his bags packed because he was thought to have it in for Parvati. He never made up with her after Micronesia, but James did. Danielle and Parvati are IRL friends, but in a UTR way such that no one discussed them as a dangerous pair. Many people think Candice was put on Heroes -- mutineer Hero, right, she did her best to destroy Aitu by jumping -- to avoid the appearance that there was a big Parvati alliance on the initial tribe. Amanda, Cirie, Candice, James -- all allies if Parv just made it to merge. Did any other castaway have casting on their side trying to give him/her a smooth ride with pre-prepared alliances and no major enemies? No. It gets worse. Parvati flew out to Samoa while S19 was filming. She vacationed there with Erika Shay. There she was supposedly clued in to Russell's mode of play, which would include that he likes to find a female ally and take her to the end, acting as the perfect goat all the way. All Parvati had to do was become Natalie v. 2. As for Russell, the only season he supposedly saw before filming was Micronesia. Coincidence or did someone in casting tell him which one to watch. He knew he wanted to ally with Parvati on S20. Also, he and casting knew before S19 was halfway filmed that he would be on S20. Only problem for Parvati is that Russell got a tad psycho after all those days in the game, and she miscalculated and lost his trust, so that it wasn't a smooth sail. There is other gossip that's been around a long time, and I repeat it only because people who hang out around the LA group repeat it pretty frequently. Take it for no more than gossip. That parv is Bi, like Natalie Bolton (who they tried to cast, who was an alternate for Courtney). And that so is Lynne or Erika, and there has been some casting couch behavior on Parvati's part from way back when, just not the traditional kind. This is one reason people call her skanky, not for being bi, but for allegedly sleeping with someone who works in casting, and getting Micronesia ... just allegations and not something I can say is true or false. What is true is there have been allegations along those lines since Micronesia. Lastly, Amanda is giving interviews that a mysterious something about this season changed the way she felt about the game and she will never play it again. Candice and Danielle were asked by RTVW what was up, and they said that they weren't going to be the ones to comment. So it is not all internet gossamer. It's serious enough to where CBS ordered radio silence on it. And like I said, all the players at the Cocoa Beach party last season were talking about the Parv favoritism and the Probst-Spillman rift before anyone flew out to Samoa. It took someone like Billy who will never get asked to play again to spill it on the net. The others are afraid of getting cut from the guest lists. Lastly, this season they had the cast staying in Samoa and interacting for days before filming started. They didn't separate them into Heroes and Villains, but they were free to start solidifying pre-game alliances. Like Stephanie said pointedly at the reunion, there were "like three of us who don't hang out with these people." Steph, Tom, Colby were the three I imagine, the ones who don't go to all the Survivor parties. It's a big social club now. Even if Russell had learned how to play nice, I don't think he could have won this season, because he wasn't in the club. Parv was supposed to win.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:28 am
Velly, VELLY interesting, Ladytex. I would be reluctant to buy into the "Parvati is the Survivor strumpet" gossip, but the rest doesn't sound difficult to imagine. And the dynamics could provide a plausible explanation as to why Amanda and Colby just folded up their tents this time around.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:38 am
It's not too unlike a lot of workplaces LOL. Russ playing nice??? That I don't believe.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:47 am
GAL, I'm totally buying it. I absolutely believe it 100%. I never could understand why they brought her back for a third time when she was clearly one of the more unpopular players and winners. Some said it was hard to get people to go out again - but it sounds like people had their bags packed only to get cut. It was extremely obvious in the Fans/Faves season which Parvati won that Jeff didn't like her. He barely asked her any questions at the reunion show, even though she had just won $1 million.
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Northstar
Member
09-29-2008
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:54 am
It's not too unlike a lot of workplaces LOL. No kidding... I heard the word entertainment more often this season than any other. Little did I know the REAL soap opera before me.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 8:55 am
IF that is true...for me, it kinda casts a cloud over Parvati's "superb" gameplay and tends to raise the wow factor of Sandra's gameplay. Sandra didn't have things setup for her to win...and yet, somehow she managed too...LOL I actually do hope its true...that would be a hoot and a half!!
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Northstar
Member
09-29-2008
| Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 9:05 am
I'm wondering if all this didn't have a bit of leverage in voting for Sandra! Not a stick it to Russell vote or a stick it to Parv vote, but a stick it to CBS casting vote. It's less about how Sandra played, but about the behind the scenes gameplay at play.
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