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Sallycat22
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08-31-2005
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:34 pm
I want to talk about Colby. As he wrote his vote down and walked on back, his body english was that of an old man. I wondered if he could be depressed by how his stint as a "hero" had turned out. He might have thought he would be perceived differently. Either that or he was too out of shape to hold up this time. The "No personality" comment about him could also be depression. Jeff is getting over Russell this time a bit. He mentions that Russell is talking too much. We see the talking according to the way the many hours are edited....so we may not be seeing what Jeff means. If he gets on your nerves..then all his talk is too much. I see him as bringing a new level of good TV. I am glad to get the focus off the fire, food and water in past seasons. Jeff says next immunity idols will be hidden better next season....so I guess they are trying to keep it interesting.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:57 pm
Before I read Jeff's blog and this thread... Wow how stupid and annoying was the whole thing with the HII clue?!!! Good for Amanda at first but that was ridiculously stupid...she was acting ridiculously stupid when she gave the clue back to Danielle! Good for Danielle for going after the clue. Colby! Ridiculous!!! AARRGGGG!!!! I'm so annoyed. He isn't playing this game. Russell would never have told an alliance member to give the clue back to the enemy! Danielle was so annoying whining at Colby to tell Amanda to give the clue back to her! Oh! I am SO annoyed at all 3 of them! There are too many stupid moves going on this season. i don't usually get so worked up over anything. I think that all this falling after JT and Coach and Tyson played so stupidly ...well...it is just too much! I do love this season though. Even though I am annoyed about last night, I was very entertained. Right now I hope Sandra wins. Good for her on the beach to tell Russ to give her a moment with Candace. (Speaking of Candace, she was pretty annoying at that moment too ... whining at Sandra to just vote Amanda.) I am glad they showed us that interaction including Russ trying to interrupt. We have not seen much of that type of interaction ever on Survivor. Great playing by Russell last night! I am afraid he isn't going to do so great next week though. Now is not the time to be threatening people that will be on the jury, or at least, not so many of them. Early on in the game, if you can get away with it...more power to you. But at this point, you have to stab everyone else in the back in a way that isn't painful for them. Candace was between a rock and a hard place. Hard to tell what would have been best for her. Rupert is doing well now, in my book. He seems to have dropped the whole summer camp attitude about everyone getting along and is now not trusting really anyone all the way. Good for him. His instincts about Russ are right on. Parvati is playing well as usual. (Although, I don't think giving away both HII was necessarily the greatest move. or maybe it was.) She was right to be a bit under the radar this week. Colby is really gullible. He doesn't seem to think of other possibilities. I really like Rupert's intense confessionals!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 7:09 pm
Was just discussing Colby with some other fans. It is like he just showed up for the paycheck. Had nothing else going on. You know your team is in trouble when Rupert is the voice of reason and the brain trust.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 7:42 pm
Isn't the rule that when someone finds the idol it is theirs and no one can take it away. Maybe the rule is the same for the clue. If Amanda had beens smart, she would have ripped it open and read it before Danielle could have taken it back. I love how they tell things that happened from their own point of view though. Back at camp Danielle told everyone she wrestled Amanda to the floor and "ripped" the clue out of her hand. That is not what happened. Yeah, there was some wrestling, but Amanda handed the clue back to her. 
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 7:46 pm
As to the number of idols, hasn't it always been the practice that there is an idol hidden at each camp. And when the idol is played it is replaced by another. I don't remember a year when so many of the idols have been found and played. Sometimes only one tribe would find their idol. The other tribe would never find it. Sometimes an idol would be held for several shows before it was played. Not this year.They have been played almost immediately after they are found. That might account for why there has been so many. One is played, another is hidden.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:06 pm
They also used to hide the idols on Exile Island, so there was only one person who could find them, and they only had a limited time to look. It would have been interesting to see how Russell would have done in one of those seasons.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:23 pm
I think he would not have rested or slept until he had found the idol on exile island or run out of time. Who knows if he would have actually found it though, it seemed it was much harder to find/required more clues to find on exile island. Allie, I noticed that embelishing by Danielle too. Maybe she did that for strategy, but she came off (to me) like she really believed she ripped it out of Amanda's hand. (I haven't seen the extra footage, maybe she did at one time?) Jeff said in his blog that there weren't rules for who should rightfully have ended up with the clue.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 5:03 am
Just seeing it now - thanks Kitt!!!!
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Jezzedout
Member
09-07-2006
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 11:19 am
Happymom wrote: Wow how stupid and annoying was the whole thing with the HII clue?!!! Good for Amanda at first but that was ridiculously stupid...she was acting ridiculously stupid when she gave the clue back to Danielle! Good for Danielle for going after the clue. Colby! Ridiculous!!! AARRGGGG!!!! I'm so annoyed. He isn't playing this game. Russell would never have told an alliance member to give the clue back to the enemy! Danielle was so annoying whining at Colby to tell Amanda to give the clue back to her! Oh! I am SO annoyed at all 3 of them! Well stated Happymom. I completely agree with you.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 12:17 pm
Thanks, Naja, for the clarification on voting. And I like Brenda's idea that Amanda should have either read it aloud or flushed it down the toilet! The last time Colby played, they voted him off for his strength and popularity. Early on I was hoping Colby was playing weak and as if he didn't care in order to make it this far and then start winning all of the II but now I fear that Sallycat could be right. Here's hoping for Sandra to win but it will be an uphill battle. Parv & Russ are the only other 2 playing the game and I can't stand either. Jerri will now have a new reputation as a nice girl and that's a win for her. Rupert will come out looking decent for having the common sense to not believe Russell. Danielle & Candice ~ Does anyone really care?
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 12:45 pm
After being voted out Amanda was giving a run down on her Hero's team she said Rupert had no game, Colby had no personality and Candice was wishy washy. She also said you can't do it alone, but must have an alliance. How true! My own take on Courtney is that she is really full of herself. I liked it when they mentioned Coach and Jerri having something going on.....he blushed like a school boy...thereby making me take back everything I said about him. Outwit..Outlast....Outplay. I see it as a race for top position between Sandra, Parv and Russell. Their brains are smok'in all the time. Thanks for a good season you little devils.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 1:37 pm
Yes, I live Coach much better outside of the game! It is like Survivor air makes him delusional!!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 2:14 pm
I liked Colby in Survivor Australia but it's like he barely even bothered showing up for this season. I can understand why Amanda was frustrated. He may be a nice guy but I'd much rather watch players like Sandra, Parvati and Russell any day.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 2:22 pm
Colby has been a big surprise. He did dominate the challenges in Australia... when he arrived this season he mentioned being ... was it 9 years older? ... but heck there have been Survivors older than Colby who have performed much better. Even without the performance of a young stud...Colby just doesn't seem to have the same glow and killer smile as a few years back.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 3:59 pm
From my fav exit interview site: Exclusive: Amanda Kimmel talks about 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' realitytvworld
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 12:15 pm
From Dalton's blog: "I actually think was a poor play by Russell that will only serve to upset his alliance with Danielle and Parvati. Yes, he was rightfully steamed that Parvati did not tell him about her hidden idol. However, she ultimately ended up not even using it for herself but for the sake of the team in handing it off to someone else and ensuring that J.T. went home. For Russell to then find Danielle's idol, not tell her, make her continue to search out in the pouring rain for no reason, and then use it for himself? Well, that will come off as pretty selfish and could come back to haunt him." Oh...good point!
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 2:43 pm
Danielle was in on the joke against Russell. About the two immunity idols. I am sure he pictured them snickering together over their little secret. This was his secret from both of them. That made it even better in his eyes. Last laugh and all that. However I am afraid the last laugh may be one him again this season.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 3:17 pm
I think so too. If by some chance Russell does reach it to the final two/three, I can't see any of the others giving him the win as nobody seems to have any respect for him or his game. Guess it depends who he's up with though, perhaps if he's with Candice or Colby?? But if he's with Parvati or Sandra - no chance.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 7:44 pm
The fact that they kept the idol a secret when he had given Parvati his when she already had one, might have also give him the idea the he is no longer first with them. It is easy to get paranoid in this game and Parvati was playing with fire. The fact that he played his idol reveals that he was afraid they were going to blindside him. Parvati said he wasted an idol, but she was the one to make him all paranoid. If she had been upfront with him, he would have still trusted her and probably given her the idol knowing she was supposed the be the target that night. In Survivor when trust is lost it is hard to regain.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 8:06 pm
I think Parvati missed the opportunity to keep Russell's trust in this situation. He was getting to the point where he believed everything/anything she said. However Parvati seemed unable to resist crowing about how clever she'd been, humiliating Russell instead of working on Russell's weakness (her). He would have believed any cockamamie story she made up. In any case, it sure has made things interesting.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 8:19 pm
Colby doesn't seem well. But is could be that he knows what it means when you don't have an alliance. Must be a pretty lonely feeling... All those things that Amanda said about him...same things I was thinking about her. Was that scene with her and Danielle and the dispute about the idol for real??? Maybe that is why Colby has that "What am I doing here" look on his face sometimes.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 9:40 pm
Hmmm. Maybe Colby is missing his mother or his pseudo mother, Tina. Remember when Colby won that funny-looking car and he and his mother slept together in the back seat? And how he literally handed the million dollars to Tina and jumped up and cheered loudly when she won? Just sayin'.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 7:28 am
If I am remembering correctly, the jury members said they would have voted for the other guy (not Colby) if Colby hadn't picked Tina, so, there was no way for Colby to win. We, the viewers, just couldn't tell that from the show. Russ may have gotten back at Parvati re not telling her he had the idol, but, I agree with Dalton. It wasn't smart of him and will tear apart his alliance with her and Danielle maybe. If I were Russell, I would have just kept the anger on the inside. However, I can also see that there was no way he wanted to take a chance on going home with an idol in his pocket. As a viewer, I know Parv doesn't care about Russ. This is all so interesting! I can't wait to see what happens next!
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Ann
Member
09-27-2005
| Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 10:04 am
Hope this is the right thread to post this article. Survivor will be changing the HII rules for next season. The producers knew how good Russell was at finding the HII so, in my opinion, they really should have changed the rules for this season's game, especially seeing as none of the contestants were aware of this fact as they hadn't had a chance to see Russell's prior gameplay. I really found it to be unfair. http://realitytvworld.com/news/jeff-probst-survivor-changing-hidden-idols-due-russell-hantz-10871.php Jeff Probst: 'Survivor' changing hidden idols due to Russell Hantz By Christopher Rocchio, 05/03/2010 Russell Hantz has apparently made an indelible mark on Survivor when it comes the handling of hidden Immunity Idols. "Over the last two seasons Russell has proven that he has an uncanny ability to find the idols. In fact, he's so good at it that he's forever changed how we will handle idols in future seasons," wrote host Jeff Probst in his Entertainment Weekly blog on Friday. "Next season it will take more than just looking under a rock to find a hidden idol. I won't give away what we're doing, but in planning our creative for next season we coined a phrase, 'The Russell Factor' and it influenced how we will play the hidden idol next season." Hantz used the hidden Immunity Idols he found during Survivor: Samoa, which aired last fall, to make it all the way to the final Tribal Council -- where he eventually lost to his ally Natalie White. At one point, he was even able to find an idol without a clue. Hantz carried his ability to locate the competition's hidden idols with him onto Survivor: Heroes Vs. Villains, causing him to proclaim that he's the "king" of them during last week's episode. "I'd have to agree," wrote Probst.
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