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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 10:42 pm
I hate it when two players I really liked previously are acting like asses.. Rupert and James. I deleted already, but I thought Cirie voted Amanda? I was wrong.. she voted Stephenie.. I had the show on the upstairs DVR and FF through to check and my memory was probably just wishful thinking. I'm not really enjoying this season so far. I sure don't remember it being Stephenie's fault that her tribes lost in the paat. With that logic you could say, hmm, James, your team has lost twice and you are on the team.. must be y'all's fault. No, but you could start a campaign against anyone . Keldog, I think they had heard James making his rounds trashing Stephenie plus they were well aware of the way they were being kept out of the main alliance. They gave it a try but Candice didn't go their way. I'm not a fan of all star shows at all and I'm thinking three times is NOT a charm for most of these people.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 11:42 pm
I can appreciate James' frustration. This is the 2nd IC challenge where they had a big lead, then got trounced. At first, when they agreed to let JT direct 'One Voice' - Stephanie agreed. Then, when it came time to put the blocks together, I lost count of the number of times I heard Stephanie yell "It's Wrong!" "It's Wrong!" "It's Wrong!" She added to the confusion & lost whatever sense of confidence & calmness their team might have felt. James might not have been very diplomatic, but having Steph's clearly two allies (heavy weights Tom & Colby) calling James out, just added to the foot in mouth issue. James already got played badly last time by a bunch of women, and I think playing the 'gentleman' card before didn't serve him well. He came off looking/feeling like a buffoon. Steph might have been a stronger woman with strong alliances, but I'm not disappointed to see her go - I don't see her as a team player overall.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:27 am
James was so single minded about Stephanie's old tribe. She wasn't the reason they failed. They failed as a tribe, and she outlasted them all. His reasoning was foolish and impossible to justify. Rupert. I don't get why he seems to just be sauntering around the camp like a bored teenager upset about the way things are being done. What happened to leading by example? I couldn't really tell if Stephanie actually caused them to lose that challenge. What if she did see the right way the puzzle should go. She's supposed to hold her tongue and let JT do it wrong just cause they all said he'd "lead" the challenge? And besides, just because he did the challenge in his season doens't mean he's an instant expert. A puzzle is a puzzle, and likely different each time. Just because I did a sudoku puzzle successfully two years ago doesn't mean I will do the next one better than anyone else around me this time around. The Heroes are getting caught up in their egos and Type A personalities. They are used to leading, and can't fathom that sometimes they have to follow too. Boston Rob. My goodness! I never thought I'd see the day this man would impress me. His fire starting skills alone last week were already enough to impress me then. Now he goes and steps up again. Man, here he was feeling sick and he not only threw his body into that challenge, he even sort of endangered himself by getting under that block and pushing it up with his body. If they'd lost their grip on it (like they did once already), it could have crushed him. If they were to do a tribal swap, I'd say bring Rob over to the Heroes and James over to the Villains.
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Reenie
Member
06-24-2006
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 5:24 am
Last night was an absolutely great show! I don't even know where to start. James...well I understand his frustration, but he overreacted and Tom really seems to have it in for him. (which makes me sad since they have only been there 4 days). Steph should have cooperated more in the contest. Boston Rob - I still like him. I think I'll watch it again and see if my impressions are different the second time around.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 6:06 am
quote:Rupert. I don't get why he seems to just be sauntering around the camp like a bored teenager upset about the way things are being done. What happened to leading by example?
He's got a broke toe. Ouch.
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 6:25 am
Great post, Whoami! I agree with you 100%
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 6:27 am
The villains seem to be getting along better as a group and seem to be able to keep their personal feelings in check better. Unless things change on the heros it'll be a villain that wins this. I think the heros will eat their own pretty quickly while the villains bide their time until the merge. So far the villains are playing the smarter game....but it's still early in the season things can change. I'm surprised I'm rooting for the villains to win this season...but not Russell. ;)
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:39 am
I plan to watch the episode again as well and see if my opinion of James changes, but from last night I completely understood why he was mad. Steph is mouthy and she thought she could mouth off to James, but he was angry, hot headed at the time, and not the time to try and out mouth him. I liked Steph her first season, but I agree she has a sense of entitlement that became apparent in her second season and this one as well. Tom's condescending side is coming out and showing me again why I wasn't a big fan of his. Now, I didn't understand James' logic in Steph being the last on her tribe, therefore she has to go. I'd say she needed to go because she wasn't working as a team in the challenge and had a big mouth. LOL Maris about Rob = Jack. Wow, I can't imagine having migranes and flu and still being out there suffering. These people are tough! And LOL about his "crybaby-itis" comment. If he doesn't go very far in this game I will be SO disappointed. I wouldn't mind at all a Jerri, Coach, Russel, Rob final 4. I'd love to see Russel and Rob team up and make it far. They are both great entertainment for different reasons.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:52 am
Why haven't we seen clips of Russell finding Immunity Idols? Do they exist this time? Cause ya know Russell would find em.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 9:13 am
I read Jeff's blog -- surprised that he's team Steph and thinks James needs to go. I will be interested to see how the other team members (not Tom or Colby) feel about James attitude and frustrations.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 9:19 am
If I were playing, Rupert would have been out last night. I could tell the cameras that it was because he's hurt and, in that shape, he wouldn't be able to win, anyhow. But the truth of it would be that Rupert isn't doing anything I can discern, he's bossy, and he complains. And he isn't going to win, anyhow. I'm less upset with James, who is rightly frustrated by Stephanie's being Stephanie, than I am with Tom. I never liked him (although I realize he was a very good, strong player). He and Colby both seem to have an amazing superiority complex, which is, I guess, good for them, but insufferable for me as a viewer.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 9:26 am
I agree about Colby and Tom, Tishala. And yes, it seems a vote for Rupert's broken toe to leave the game would have been a safe and justifiable one. I wonder if they even discussed it.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:16 am
Good point about Rupert's toe Colordeagua. But I think he was behaving that way before he broke his toe too. Tish is right, he's bossy and he doesn't do anything but complain. He disappoints me cause I really liked him his original season.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:21 am
I didn't think Rob had a migraine. I thought he used that as an excuse to his tribe about why he got knocked out - tough conditions + migraine. Seems better than flu which could be seen as a weakness and possibly be able to spread. Rob seemed on his game with the migraine excuse.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:39 am
Gidget, in Jeff's blog he said that Rob had the "Samoan flu," which also wiped out the production crew (and one of the symptoms was "stabbing" headaches."
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Jezzedout
Member
09-07-2006
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:47 am
Another great episode. I'm feeling for my man James. He's frustrated. James in the past has never been known for his social game, and that's because James isn't the best communicator. Stephanie in particular seems to rub him the wrong way, so add that to the lost challenge coupled with frustration and hunger and James lost his temper. It happens to the best of people and we've seen it time and again over the seasons. I agree James should have toned it down for his own sake in the game, but I don't think one outburst makes him a bad person. I also think James decided to step up his strategic gameplay this season and he may have overcompensated to culminate in the vocal display we saw at tribal council. Stephanie... wow, surprised she went for that last dig on the way out. Didn't necessarily appreciate James' reply to it either, but it's rare that players take pot shots on their way out and I thought it seemed petty. Just my opinion... Regarding the challenge... if I recall correctly Stephanie was never great at puzzles. In her past seasons she was known as an athletic powerhouse, but I seem to recall she wasn't the best at challenges that required strategy or puzzle solving. At the point in the challenge when Stephanie kept telling them they were wrong about the placement of the blocks, JT, Tom and someone else all disagreed with her. JT was trying to show them where to go, but Stephanie just stood there telling them it was wrong. From the edit, it looked to me like Stephanie contributed little and did more to disrupt than help. Again, just my opinion. All of that said, was sorry to see her go at this point because I do think Steph is stronger physically than Candice and her strength would have been an asset at this point in the game. On the subject of Tom... something I realized about him this season. He doesn't really laugh or smile a lot. He has a code he lives by and anyone who doesn't live like him isn't as honorable. I think Tishala, has it right in calling it a superiority complex. Tishala wrote: I'm less upset with James, who is rightly frustrated by Stephanie's being Stephanie, than I am with Tom. I never liked him (although I realize he was a very good, strong player). He and Colby both seem to have an amazing superiority complex, which is, I guess, good for them, but insufferable for me as a viewer. Not surprising to me that Colby has gravitated to Tom as I think their personalities are quite similar. They both strike me as just a little closed off to people. They both have a low threshold for what they feel is stupidity. In some ways, Steph fits into that group as well. Anyway, I think they all need to lighten up, laugh a little. Rob... glad he's okay. With that said, the scene where he collapsed was pure reality TV gold. As he laid there, with the camera tight on his face, tear streaming down his cheek, and he says "I feel like... it's getting the best of me"... wow, I almost felt like I was watching a film. (Somehow I imagine Rob is getting a good laugh from it himself.) Loved his comment about crybabyitis. It's comments like that that reinforce why I like him so much even though he can be a bit of a shit at times. Again, glad he's okay. That Samoan flu must be really harsh to take him down like that. Jeff's blog said many crew members got it was well and the headache was intense. Super happy it didn't take him out of the game. Kudos to him for soldiering on. PS... do you think Jerri could have taken a little more time getting help? Rob was clearly unconscious, collapsed on the jungle floor, and instead of instantly calling for medical she sits there saying "Rob, talk to me." Then when he tells her to get help, she doesn't run, but casually walks to get medical. Maybe it was the edit but it sure seemed like she was taking her time in a situation that seemed to call for a little more urgency. Comment about Russell... interesting to see how his personality is overshadowed in this group. I don't dislike him at all, but I am glad that this isn't another season of The Russell Show. Another season off to a good start. Can't wait for next week.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:54 am
Why do I actually like Rob this time??? I find myself totally rooting for him! Still love Russell and Rupert. Disappointed in James. Why did they not even consider voting out Candice???
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:54 am
Thanks Lexie. I didn't read the blog. I can't imagine having the flu or even a hang nail and dealing with those conditions. And this time the conditions don't even look as bad as some have been.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:39 pm
I was surprised that they wanted to vote out Amanda instead of Cirie. Last week they brought up Cirie's name as a strategic player, but this week they let her slide.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:52 pm
Cirie/Russell would be a very entertaining pair/alliance to watch. Too bad they're on opposing tribes.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:55 pm
Amber is a lucky gal. Boston Rob gets sexier every time I see him. I was tearing up right along with him. I just can not love him more. I agree James was frustrated and was more vocal than in the past. He is so much bigger than before that I think lack of food or protein shakes or whatever has made him more cranky than normal. Rob has proven to be the star of his tribe and I will not be happy with anyone reseponsible for his demise, if it happens.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 3:31 pm
Pamy luv - I think it is so cool that we are most of a continent apart and separated by decades in age and think with one mind and love with one heart!
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 3:35 pm
In earlier seasons the voted out person has turned around to the tribe and has had some comment. That seemed to end in more recent seasons. I thought maybe they had directed them NOT to do that. So I was surprised when Stephanie mouthed off ....and even more surprised when James told her to shut up. I loved it!
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Jarreau
Member
03-02-2008
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:15 pm
Pamy - You do know that James is a WhoDat don't you? I have always been a fan of James. Anyone that gets voted off with not one but TWO idols in their pocket - you gotta love 'em. He's no more obnoxious or rude than any number of former players we could all name. I think he is a fierce physical competitor but not so good at the social part....... Oh well, we can't all be social butterflies.....
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 19, 2010 - 4:19 pm
While it is true that we can't all be social butterflies, discretion might recommend avoiding being a social hornet! Just sayin'
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