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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 3:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Wasn't an easy decision, seems that Candace & JT were pushing. But Rupert brings up some questions I was having:

Survivor: Hereos vs. Villains - Colby Versus James
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwIwNxtRCZs

Rupert weighs the pros and cons of voting out James and Colby

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 4:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Captain Jack (Rob) made some pretty negative statements about women in his first season. Just as bad as Russell's in his first season. About even on that score I would say.

I just want my little devil Russell to make it to the merge. That should be interesting.


Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
If possession of the individual immunity necklace can be transferred at TC, why not that of the HII? It seems the same sort of thing to me -

Adven
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02-06-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 5:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
I agree with you, Jimmer. The chess match between Rob and Russell was fascinating. They may be the best two players the show has ever seen.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
Amanda had that sad eyed about to cry look through the whole TC.....now I know it was because she knew she was voting James out.


I cannot wait for that sad face to go!!!!!!! ugh

Awesome show last night - love that Russ caught on to pass the idol to Parvati. Things like that make this show fun.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Loved last night's show. My heart broke for James, what a tremendous guy ( to me anyway ) but I probably would have voted as the hero's did as well. I enjoyed seeing Russ outwit Rob. Boy that Parvati sure can charm the men hehe Girl Power!! I admit as a woman I got a giggle watching that girl get saved last night by shady Russ of all people!! I'd never have pegged him, as crafty as he is, to become her ally so strongly.

Barkley
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08-12-2005

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Barkley a private message Print Post    
Sandra doesn't like Parvi because she has friends on the other side.
What friends?? don't they see who's left, JT not Coby not, Rupert Not, Candice not, Amanda maybe.
James did not like Parvi as she tricked him last time.Even Russell said that their alliance will have to work to get some to jump to their side. Like Russell said dumb players. Russell also said at his site that when he was home between shows, he watched Parvi win Micronesia and was really impressed with her game. Smart man to side with her right off.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Maybe I'm missing something, but I thought that Russell chose Tyson because he has the most to lose. The plan was a three way tie, three votes for Russell, three for Parvati and three for Tyson. If either Russell or Parvati had the idol, there would a two way tie with Tyson and the other one of them. Then another vote.

The reason Tyson switched up was because he thought he was avoiding the whole tie vote thing, and that's why Russell approached him. Tyson was thinking he was eliminating his risk, and Russell played him.

So no conspiracy or mole, just heads up game play by Russell.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That may have been his reasoning, but if they had followed through with that (as Rob planned), Tyson would ultimately have been safe, with the other player voted out in the re-vote.

Russell executed his plan brilliantly, Rob countered brilliantly and Tyson completely messed it up. I'm not sure how Russell acted to convince Tyson that Tyson voting for Parvati would be a good idea. He did seem to convince him but I'm not sure how or why.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
So, who decided to use Tyson as a decoy in this 3-way vote in the first place?

I don't know...I'm still finding it hard to believe that one person could come up with this complicated idea, and then another one could figure it out and know exactly who to approach to blow the plan out of the water. There must be a hellava lot of talking going on within tribes that they are not showing us at all. Or else the producer is meddling. Russell and his amazing feats just *don't* ring true with me, and never have. He's getting help from someone in his back-to-back games.

Maplsyrp
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02-10-2009

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maplsyrp a private message Print Post    
Not a Russell fan but wow what a awesome move on his part.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
No offense to Russell because I enjoy his game play but he is not the most likely character for the producers to pick as a focal point to a TV show. As I think Rob aptly described him, "He acts like a hobbit on crack".

Why would the producers single out Russell for an advantage and why wouldn't other players complain about it if they did. Plus Rob also figured out what Russell would do. So now Rob has to be a part of the conspiracy.

Given the rather ridiculous and unappealing outcomes of some of the other Survivor seasons, it just doesn't seem likely to me that the producers would be giving Russell some sort of special advantage. There are far more popular and appealing players that they would pick if they were planning something like that.

Connies
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03-11-2010

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Connies a private message Print Post    
Hello everyone. I am a new poster. I must admit to reading your posts for the last few years and enjoying it, so I decided to add my 2 cents worth! I do not love Russell, but in my mind he deserves to win. He certainly out wits, out thinks most people in the tribe. Hated to see James go. Loved his explanation of the banana etiquette.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Welcome to posting, Connies! :-)

Thanks for reminding me about that. So much happened in last night's show, I'd forgotten the funny bit that James did at tribal council with respect to the banana incident. The Villains tribe was cracking up laughing over it and I was laughing along with them.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Welcome Connies. I can't stand Russell, but the man got my grudging respect last night.

ETA, yeah the banana bit was hilarious.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tyson was never a decoy. Tyson was the person that Russell and Parvati were going to target anyway, because they couldn't vote for Rob. That was pretty clear from Russell's confessionals. He saw Rob and Tyson as the top of the other group.

I think Tyson fell for Russell's "I can't save Parvati, so I'm going to vote for her" line. Tyson even said at that time "I'd like to just get it over with" (versus dealing with a tie and second vote) So that's how Tyson fell.

Connies
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03-11-2010

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Connies a private message Print Post    
Thank you, it is good to be here. This show can show so much cut throat, strategy, I love it when I see some humor. Makes my day and James brought more of that to the show than most. Oh well, maybe someone will make a poster of him all oiled up and we can enjoy that. Ha.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Very good point Karuuna. Tyson didn't want to be part of a tie because there's always the little risk that someone will change their mind and vote you out, Russel played on that fear perfectly!

All it takes is simple math -- the sides were 6 to 3. It doesn't take a producer meddling for them to figure out those other 3 would vote as a solid block, and then if the idol were used to cancel the 6 votes, whoever the 3 voted for would go home. Anyone who's played this game or watched it knows that if you're trying to flush out the idol, you have to be careful about those "other" votes. Of course the 6 would figure out that they needed to split their vote.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Right! Totally forgot Rob had immunity--duh!. (I was on the phone when that tribe competed for it last night.) Now the 3-way thing with Tyson makes sense.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Well Jimmer, Russell may be like a hobbitt on crack but there are many who love him which is a great reason for the producers to single him out. He is, as the reality world would say, "good tv" so keep him around as long as possible.

Ecoop
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07-07-2005

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ecoop a private message Print Post    
The success of Survivor has been the fact that the producers/editors have kept it interesting. Even being privy to spoilers (as I am) did not take away from being entertained last night. And, as much as some of you dislike Russell, at least admit that without his and Rob's fight for dominion over the tribe, the powers that be would have SO much less to work with. I am one of those who thoroughly disliked Russell in the beginning, but swung 180 before S19 was over, and thought he should have won. I thoroughly enjoyed last night's battle of the titans and look forward to seeing how this plays out.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It would please me greatly if Russel and Rob would team up!

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Great episode!

Loved the exchange between Rob and Russell at the beginning, and the subsequent conversation between them after the challenge where Rob put Russell on notice that Russell is facing votes at tribal council. Fascinating face off between two power players!

Loved the exchange between Colby and James back at camp after the challenge. I didn't realize James was so enamored with Colby, LOL! I think it's the first time Colby has smiled all season!

Interesting to hear all the negative comments about Colby's performance. Was impressed to see Colby demonstrating some humility. Is it to much to hope that this smiling, humble, more relaxed Colby might stay around for a few episodes?

Super bold move by Russell giving the idol to Parv. If I understand what happened, it came down to Russell planting the seed that led Tyson to vote Parv. So it was 4 votes Parv, 3 votes Tyson, 2 votes Russell. Parv had immunity so Tyson's 3 votes sent him home.

I do give Russell a lot of credit... it was a masterful move. Nicely played and fun to watch. That said, he's doing the same thing he did last season... he's completely overlooking that he has to get the votes at the end.

Sorry to see James go. It was the right move, but I'll miss seeing him on my TV every week.


Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I don't find Russell a power player whatsoever. He has changed this game to the point it should be called, "Find the Immunity Idol" instead of Survivor. He wouldn't be able to 'survive' without contstant immunity idols. He's not the best at comps.

I can't believe silly Tyson switched up his vote. Why? Did he not think it through?

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
I am LOVING the Boston Rob vs Russel dynamics. I hope they both stay in the game for a LONG time! Last nights tribal council was AWESOME!!

At the beginning of this season up until last night I was really starting to like Boston Rob, then his ego poked it's ugly head. I wasn't a fan of him in the previous seasons so was pleasantly surprised to see this other side of him, up until last night.

I'm not a big Russel fan either but sure enjoyed him taking Boston Rob down a notch. Just loved all their expressions after the vote. Too funny.

Can't wait to see next weeks episode!!! I don't think I have been this excited about Survivor in many years.

Cricket--Regarding Tyson, he did think it through but "just wanted to get it over with and get some hot dog in his mouth" instead of a tie, just to vote off Pavarti, or so he thought.