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Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Well, I am rooting for Tyson, I really like his spooky eyes.
Also, I still like Sandra.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 6:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I am really looking forward to the clashing of the alpha males! Hopefully that will give the gals time to figure out how to keep themselves in the game - at least for a while!

Not that I don't love some of the alpha males - J.T., Colby, Tom, and Rob. I also love Rupert and James but see them more as sweethearts than alpha males!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
YAY, I am so happy to see Sandra! I just loved her in her season. She was a little bit of a villain. She had that attitude that she doesn't care who goes home as long as it isn't me, and she turned on people. And it got her the win. I am pretty sure Sandra is the one I will be rooting for.

Count me in as one of the baffled who doesn't understand Parvati getting to come back so many times. I find her to have zero entertainment value.

When I heard it mentioned Tom will be back, I thought they meant the goat farmer Tom was back again...LOL

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 9:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
NO! Hunky fireman Tom!

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Was Tom the science teacher who wore the bow tie?
I liked him.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Gary was the science teacher. Tom was the fireman who killed a shark with a machete in Palau.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I'd have liked to have seen the bow tie guy again. I never liked Tom, although I know I was in the minority. I can't remember why now.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Oh, wait, actually I think Bob was the science teacher. Gary was the former football player. Sorry 'bout that!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Yes Bob, that sounds right!

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Yes, Bob sounds right. I liked his clever, brainy way of playing.
I wish he had come back.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Kitt, I was not a fireman Tom fan either. If I recall correctly I thought he was kind of condescending and manipulative of Ian, guilting him into playing how he thought was honorable, etc. Nope, not a Tom fan here.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Glad I'm not alone on that. I was going to say, above, that he used emotional blackmail, but I couldn't think of any instances so wasn't sure if I was right. Sounds like you saw the same thing.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Emotional blackmail sounds about right. Emotional bully. Yeah, I remember being rather disgusted with how he treated Ian. But I think we are clearly in the minority on that one!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I'm really glad they decided to leave Fairplay out of it.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
AMEN to that Nick. If Fairplay had been on, I'd have been dreading watching. I'd watch because I like so many of the other people, but I'd not have enjoyed it until he was gone.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Can't stand Fairplay. I am very glad he is not on. Jeff P. doesn't like Fairplay at all.

Re: Tom, I don't remember much about emotional blackmail. I can excuse it for Survivor though.

Loved Bob, really smart player.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I thought Katie was the one who emotionally blackmailed Ian. She got him to give her his final two spot.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Merry, that's how I remember it. I thought Ian backstabbed Tom by taking Katie.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
According to Jeff Probst, Fairplay will never ever be on any Survivor ever again.


Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, January 17, 2010 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Now I love Jeff even more - he's cute AND he's got a brain!

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, January 18, 2010 - 1:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Tom made Ian feel guilty for just considering a vote against him in a previous TC. Ian then made one of the dumbest moves in Survivor history -- he threw the F3 competition after 12 hours to try and regain Tom's respect.

I think it was revealed in interviews after the show that Tom and Ian had agreed that whoever won F3 would take Katie to the final (because she was sure to lose). It was some macho thing about deciding the victor on the "battlefield" instead of leaving the fate of the two strong males to the jury.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, January 18, 2010 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Yes, Ian made a dumb move, but I blamed Tom for manipulating him, using that calm fatherly, fireman hero stuff on him, convincing him he wasn't honorable because he considered voting strategically, etc.

Ugh. If you want to be "macho" you take your strongest competitor with you to the finals, right? Isn't that what they always talk about being the most honorable way to win? (Not that I agree with it -- I'd take the weakest).

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, January 18, 2010 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I don't disagree about Tom manipulating Ian, and it wasn't even a strategy -- he really was angry at Ian. That's why I'm not much of a Tom fan either.

I think taking the strongest competitor to F2 is the "honorable" way only if you believe that the final Tribal Council is a fair hearing where you convince an impartial jury to give you their votes. I don't agree with that so I wouldn't do that either.

I think Tom and Ian believed (like many people back then) that Survivor should only be about physical survival skills and winning alpha male competitions. By taking Katie, they *assumed* they could effectively decide the winner through the F3 competition, taking it out of the hands of the jury. (It would have been funny to see them proven wrong if Tom had ticked off more jury members like Coby, and Katie had done more to play the game.)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is news from today: (So Sad!)
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'Survivor: Palau' contestant Jennifer Lyon dies at 37
Jan. 20, 2010, 2:16 PM EST
Zap2it.com

Jennifer Lyon, fourth-place finisher on "Survivor: Palau," has succumbed to breast cancer at the age of 37.

Lyon was diagnosed with stage three breast cancer in 2005 and shortly thereafter had a double mastectomy and started undergoing chemotherapy. Austin Carty, a contestant on "Survivor: Panama," briefly dated Lyon three years ago and told US Magazine Wednesday (Jan. 20) that "Jen was a genuinely selfless, sweet-natured person. She always had a smile. She cared about every person. This has really rocked the "Survivor" community."

"Survivor: Palau" was the season Tom Westman took home the prize. Jenn was Tom's ally going into the Final Four and when the vote was split between Jenn and Ian, there was a fire-building challenge to decide the winner. Ian pulled it out and Jenn finished in 4th place.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, January 20, 2010 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
She found the lumps before going on Survivor but did not have medical insurance to go for treatment.

From KATU.COM
HOOD RIVER, Ore. – A local cast member for television's "Survivor" series shot in Palau has lost her own fight for survival. Thirty-seven-year-old Jenn Lyon died of breast cancer Wednesday morning, at her mother's Hood River home surrounded by her family.
In 2004, shortly before filming "Survivor," she discovered a number of lumps in her breast. She told KATU that, because she didn't have health insurance, she delayed seeing a doctor.

Lyon was diagnosed with stage 3 breast cancer the year after filming the reality show.
In 2005, at age 32, Lyon began chemotherapy. She was featured on KATU's "AM Northwest" television show while undergoing chemotherapy and facing her illness with a positive outlook.

Those who knew her say Lyon did not "die" with breast cancer. Instead, she "lived" with it.

Lyon spent much of this past holiday season selling Oregon Christmas trees at a lot in Hollywood, Calif. Proceeds went to further breast cancer research.