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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:05 am
CBS Misdirection --- I'll do pictures later!!! Jeff: Next Time On...Survivor... Jeff: Coach melts down Coach: night, crying to Tyson: Other people find ways to compromise me Tyson sort of shakes his head, looks down Coach: night, whimper - Why is nobody saying anything good about me?! Jeff: The Hero Tribe splinters apart while looking for the Hidden Immunity Idol everyone looking, some following others Amanda: day confess - This is not a group effort, it's every man for himself! Jeff: And the clock is ticking on Russell Rob: Russell's a bonehead, it's time for him to go home
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:11 am
SPOILING - SPOILING - SPOILING Without getting the pictures, or the TC booth voting, or Jeff's Blog over, let me just say that "Heroes Versus Villains" has been so spoiled that I can go ahead now, for Episode 4, and tell you ---- Ginger Note: Per the spoilers, Stephenie and Tom were targeted by the Heroes tribe from the very beginning. Stephenie is already gone, so Tom is the next target. But, Tom finds a hidden immunity idol (HI). The Heroes lose the IC in Episode 4, Tom plays his idol, and Cirie gets the boot from the backlash. Tom has always blamed Cirie for being the reason that Stephenie got the boot. So, I guess you can say this is his revenge that Cirie didn't join up with Tom, Stephenie and Colby to oust Amanda in Episode 2, which would have pulled Candice in with them for a vote of 5. That's why he blames Cirie.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:22 am
Okay ... Now, here's the misdirection with the pictures. After messing up last week, trying to open a new thread and do pictures at the same time, I have learned my lesson - lol. ************************************* Jeff: Next Time On...Survivor... Jeff: Coach melts down
Coach: night, crying to Tyson: Other people find ways to compromise me Tyson sort of shakes his head, looks down Coach: night, whimper - Why is nobody saying anything good about me?! Jeff: The Hero Tribe splinters apart while looking for the Hidden Immunity Idol everyone looking, some following others
Amanda: day confess - This is not a group effort, it's every man for himself!
Jeff: And the clock is ticking on Russell
Rob: Russell's a bonehead, it's time for him to go home
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:40 am
Well, since I have seen this twice now, I'll bring it here for possible discussion. Last week, when the previews for Episode 3 came out, somebody over at Survivor Blows questioned why Courtney was sitting out the challenge with Sandra, since Courtney had sat out the challenge in Episode 2. Now, this morning, I see the Dalton Ross of EW (Entertainment Weekly) has questioned the very same thing. He is wondering what ever happened to the Survivor Rule that you can't "sit out" players in back-to-back challenges. So, if I happen to find an answer to this question, I'll bring it here .... unless somebody else already knows.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:05 am
Thanks to James Barber at Sucks for transcribing the video of the Secret Scene about Randy and the machete. ******************************* Secret Scene: Randy After the machete mysteriously vanishes, all eyes are on Randy as the culprit (Day 8) (Sandra/Tyson/Russell/Rob are sitting on the sand as Parvati walks up) Tyson: Machete still gone? Parvati: I can't find the machete. No one can find it. Russell: What do you mean we lost the machete? Parvati: I mean it's not there. Sandra: We're all gonna have to go and look for it. Rob: You think Randy friggin' sabotaged us and threw the machete away? Parvati: Probably. That is his style. (Sandra agrees) (shot of Randy sort of stumbling through the woods) Rob: Better go find the damn flint, the pot, and everything else. Tyson: Does he know he's on his way out? Parvati (solo): I have no idea where our machete went. That machete is gone. (laughs) The only thing everyone's been saying is maybe Randy sabotaged us and threw the machete in the water. He thinks he's the next man to go. Russell: Is he that kind of guy, to sabotage all the stuff? (some muttered comments) What are we gonna do without a machete? You realize how much trouble that's gonna be? No chickens, no fire... Rob: What are we gonna do about it? What's gone is gone. Parvati: Probably threw it into the ocean. Russell (solo): I hid the machete because I wanted to cause conflict in the camp. That's real easy to do with this group of people. Everybody thinks Randy did it. That puts a target on his back. He sabotages stuff, gotta rid of him. (in the shelter) Sandra: So you didn't do <expletive> with the machete? (Randy mutters something, I don't know what) Danielle: It's gone, man. Randy: Sandra, whatever happens tonight, I've still got friends here. I'm not gonna punish them for whatever happens tonight. I'm bigger than that. Sandra: Okay. Point well taken. Randy: I wish you were bigger than asking me that. Randy (solo): I don't know what's going on. I'm in a tribe of morons. I was accused that I threw the machete into the ocean or broke it and threw it into the jungle. I did not even dignify their question with an answer. Rob: We can't start a fire, we can't open a coconut, we can't cook anything, we can't cook the chicken. Danielle: I think he took it. Rob: That's messed up if he did. Tyson: It's lost. Danielle (to Coach as he walks by): Will you ask him? Randy (solo): I didn't do anything with the machete. It's lost. They can't find it. That's their problem. (Coach goes to see Randy in the shelter) Coach: Hey, Randy. They asked me if you could tell me where the machete location was. Randy: You tell them I told you to kiss my ass, not them. Same way I didn't answer Sandra, I'm not gonna answer you. Of course. You know me better than that, man. Randy (solo): I hope they find the machete, only so they might feel a little bit guilty at pointing the finger at me. Maybe one day apologize, so I can tell 'em to shove it up their ass, cause I won't accept it. (Randy sits alone, looking at the ocean)
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:06 am
Pamy's favorite part --- the TC Voting Booth! *************************** Tribal Council Voting Find out what each tribe member had to say as they cast their votes Russell (Randy): I like you, man. Sorry you had to go so early. I'd like to get to know you a little better. Courtney (Randy): (asks a crew member which side of the pen opens) <makes her card do a little dance> You need to lighten up (more?). Tyson (Randy): Hey, man, I actually think you're a pretty cool guy. Sorry it had to turn out this way. Best of luck. Sandra (Randy with a grin): Randy, it was a group decision. I don't have any problems with you. I'm sorry you didn't get dinner, that somebody ate your food. Take care of yourself. Adios. Rob (Randy): My vote is for Randy. Sorry, buddy, it had to be somebody. Parvati ("Randy B" with a heart at the end): Randy, it was either you or me tonight. I wasn't gonna go down without a fight. Take care of yourself, jack. Randy ("Rob M."): I hope my friends left in the game figure this out before it's too late for them. I wish them the best of luck. This guy's trouble. Jerri (Randy): Personally, this vote should not be about the strongest or the weakest. It should be about the most dangerous. If I had -- if it wasn't so early in the game, this would be Parvati's name. I can't afford to put a target on my back right now as the one who stands out amongst the crowd. Randy, you know that. I'm gonna miss you. Coach (Randy with a 4 written at Coach's upper left hand corner): Randy, this isn't for you. I'm sorry it had to be you. The only important thing on this piece of paper is this number up here. (points to the wrong corner, and when he realizes his mistake, unfolds the paper) The only important thing on this piece of paper is this number up here. (taps with his finger) Goodbye. Danielle (Randy): Sorry, Randy, but it's time for you to go.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:20 am
Okay ... it was a little late coming up this morning over at EW, but here is Jeff's Blog: **************************** When last I left you…James appeared to be in the beginning stages of losing his mind. Last week’s tribal council ended with the very ugly and unnecessary comment from James to Stephenie: “Shut your mouth.” Ah, so lovely. Look, I’ve been a big fan of James from day one. I voted for him to be on Fans vs. Favorites and I voted for him to be on Heroes vs. Villains and up until this season I would have referred to him with affectionate phrases like “James the Gentle Giant.” Yeah… those days are gone. I don’t know if James was going through something personal like trying to quit smoking or if he had a bad rash nobody knew about but something has definitely changed. James is just not a nice guy these days. More on that later. SLEEPING WITH THE ENEMY Boston Rob’s strategy tip was absolutely brilliant: “I’m gonna give you the key. Watch who is sleeping with whom at night.” Talk about insight. It’s amazing what we reveal about ourselves without realizing it. As David Mamet would say, “We all have a ‘tell’.” A tell is something we’re not aware of that gives us away. That’s why poker players wear dark glasses, to hide their tells. I wonder if Tiger Woods had a tell? THE BLACK WIDOW THROWDOWN Circus Announcer: “Ladies and Gentlemen, gather your children and circle the wagons, for on this very stage tonight you will be witness to one of the greatest spectacles ever seen by human eyes…it’s the Survivor Black Widow Shooooooooooowdown!” You knew it was coming. Jerri “The Original Black Widow” Manthey coming face to face with Parvati “I Take No Prisoners” Shallow for the female grudge match of the season. I couldn’t be happier. Jerri: Every time I’m around her I want to punch her in the face. Parvati: She’s just a bitter old cougar. AND THE WINNER IS… It’s an interesting match-up but I have to give the advantage to Parvati. That doesn’t mean Jerri isn’t long for the game, it only means in terms of playing the “flirt” game, Parvati has no equal. She’s even got Russell under her spell. Even Russell, the guy who thoroughly dominated last season in Samoa, is susceptible to the charms of a beautiful woman. Of course he is, he’s a man. Rob sees it. Coach sees it. The audience sees it. We can all sense what is going on. Russell may not want to believe it and I’m sure at the live Reunion show he’ll tell me how wrong I was, but from where I sit he is getting played by Parvati the same way my two-year-old honorary nephew Oscar plays with his marionette. Coach is spot on. Parvati is dangerous. And yes, if Parvati decides to snuggle up against Coach in the middle of the night you’ll hear Coach singing a whole different song in the morning. He’ll be walking around proud as a victorious warrior spouting off pearls such as :”Parvati is a really nice girl. I trust her. She’s worthy of warriorette status.” Of course he will. Why? Everybody together now, “He’s a man!” Leave it to the oldest guy out there to say it best: Randy: “Survivor, in so many ways, is like the real world. You don’t get ahead by being smart, clever, and hard working. You get ahead, unfortunately, with a pretty smile and being able to schmooze people, and Parvati is the queen.” RUSSELL’S ACHILLES HEEL But Russell’s problem is not Parvati. Russell’s Achilles heel is his ego. He keeps saying he cannot stand that Rob thinks he is running the camp. What he really means it that he cannot stand that Rob IS running the camp. If it were only the perception that Rob is in charge, Russell wouldn’t care. It’s the fact that it’s true that has those little hairs on his head standing on end. Russell: “I’m the daddy around here. Nobody knows who they’re messin’ with. It’s Russell Hantz. Gimme a break.” If Russell were a leader back in the Roman Empire days he would have been Maximillian I, one of the most egotistical Roman Emperors to ever govern Rome. Maximillian didn’t have the Internet or television to promote himself but he did have the printing press and he used it to share all of his victories with the world. Imagine ‘ole Max on Survivor – now that would be a ratings juggernaut. Let me say it one more time: Russell continues to miss his single greatest strategic opportunity – Boston Rob. Stop working against Rob and work with him. What’s wrong with you! Rob and Russell together could take it all the way to the end. It’s so easy to see when you’re not stuck in the middle of it. SUMO IN THE MUD I love this challenge. We could do this challenge every year and I’d be happy. And if Coach could play in this challenge every season I would never stop hosting Survivor. But first… The “Didn’t See It Coming” match: Did anybody actually think Amanda would take out Danielle? That was the biggest upset of the match. A total shocker. “The Most Exciting” match: Colby and Rob. That was a fantastic match-up. Exactly who we wanted to see go at it. Chalk this one up for Colby. That is how this challenge was designed to be played. Aggressively. “The Most Embarrassing” match: It’s now official. James has clearly lost his mind. It’s el gonzo. It was the most lopsided match of the challenge. There was no doubt who was going to win. James knocked Randy off with one small push and then…he threw his bag on top of him and as always had to have the last word. “Get your f—ing old ass outta here.” Sorry James but this is where I get off the James train. It’s not that I think Randy is the nicest guy in the world either, but that was just unnecessary and truly ugly. And now…to the greatest moment of the episode… “The I Can’t Hear You, Jeff, Because I’m Too Busy Posing For The Camera” match: Coach, you are a gem. You are the greatest. I loved this moment when it happened. I love it even more now that it’s on my TiVo and I can watch it over and over and over and over. Hopefully you all saw what happened. The rules state that both hands must be on the bag at all times. One of Coach’s hands slipped off the bag and inadvertently helped push Rupert off the platform. A technicality yes, but still an enforceable rule. So we had to play again. But Coach didn’t hear me and went into a 30-second pose down that was absolutely brilliant. One of his best ever and his reaction when he found out it was all for naught was even better. And here’s something I’ll admit. When Coach flipped me off it didn’t bother me. I understood it to be in the heat of the moment and not really directed at me so much as it was just frustration in general. It could bring up the question: Am I holding James to a different standard? I certainly don’t feel like I am. I feel like James’ attacks have been very personal, but I’m aware that it could seem like a double standard. Whatever it says about me, I didn’t find Coach’s flip-off to be ugly, but as already stated, I think James has blown a gasket. Side note: Some of you may be wondering about the sit-out rule pertaining to back-to-back challenges. That rule only applies within an episode. Each new episode it starts fresh. Typically we have two challenges within an episode, but not always. So Courtney was able to sit out the last challenge (last week’s episode) and sit out again in this week’s challenge (new episode.) Hope that clears up any questions. AS LONG AS IT AIN’T ME She did it in the Pearl Islands and she’s doing it again. Sandra is employing the single greatest and most simple strategy you can have on Survivor: As Long As It Ain’t Me. That’s really all you have to do to win this game – just make sure it ain’t you every single time you go to tribal council. Easier said than done for sure, but Sandra has it down to an Olympic-caliber science. She’s so good at it that at this point she is nowhere close to being voted out. Nobody’s even talking about her. She’s just minding her own business, going with the flow and staying out of the way. I love it. THE QUOTE OF THE DAY In an episode filled with fantastic quotes, this was my favorite. Coach: “There’s nobody out here that’s honorable anymore…except for me.” Admit it, you just laughed when you read it, right? It’s that good. “There’s nobody out here that’s honorable anymore…except for me.” If I could write stuff this good I’d be taking home an Oscar this year. The thing about Coach is he wears his emotions right there on this tattooed body for everybody to see. He is clearly upset by the lack of honor but in typical DragonSlayer fashion, he rallies with a quote from the great Martin Luther King, Jr. Coach: “The greatest measure of a man is not the way he handles times of comfort but in the way he rises through controversy and challenges.” Now the minute I heard Coach spouting off with an MLK quote I just knew it would be a complete bastardized version of the original. But I was wrong. I Googled that quote and Coach, you were spot on, brotha. Bravo. AT LEAST THEY GOT THE VOTE RIGHT The villains made the right move. Randy was the best person to vote out. He said it best, he just never fit in with the tribe and with his already sour attitude and marginal strength in challenges, he seemed the perfect and easy target to vote out. Randy I hope you’re happy and if you’re not happy – I hope you’re happy being not happy. See ya next week.
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Lookieloo
Member
08-12-2009
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 10:44 am
just a bit of a thought, but with all the other annoying people this season.....coach doesn't seem to annoy me as he once did........still a putz though. Honorable.....Laughing my big fluffy butt off!!!!
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Gidget
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07-28-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 11:01 am
Maximillian had a printing press?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 12:07 pm
If Jeff said it, it must be true ... right? (LOL)
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 1:14 pm
Gidget said: "Maximillian had a printing press?" Maybe it was hand carved wood. Well, it is possible. Movable type is something else, and comes much later.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 1:51 pm
THanks Ginger!!! what is the 4 for that Coach put down? poor Randy sounds like he didnt even get to eat
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 2:38 pm
Woodblock printing goes back a long way - can't remember what century!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 3:10 pm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_press A printing press is a mechanical device for applying pressure to an inked surface resting upon a medium (such as paper or cloth), thereby transferring an image. The mechanical systems involved were first assembled in Germany by the goldsmith Johannes Gutenberg around 1440, based on existing screw-presses used to press cloth, grapes, etc. and possibly prints.[1] Gutenberg was the first in Western Europe to develop a printing press. During the Renaissance era, printing methods based on Gutenberg's printing press spread rapidly throughout first Europe and then the rest of the world. It eventually replaced most versions of block printing, making it the most used format of modern movable type, until being superseded by the advent of offset printing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movable_type Movable type is the system of printing and typography that uses movable components to reproduce the elements of a document (usually individual letters or punctuation). The first known movable type system was invented in China by Bi Sheng (毕昇) out of wood in 1040. Metal movable type was most likely first invented in Korea during the Goryeo Dynasty (around 1230). This led to the printing of the Jikji in 1377—today the world's oldest extant movable metal print book. Neither movable type system was widely used, probably because of the enormous amount of labour involved in manipulating the thousands of ceramic tablets, or in the case of Korea, metal tablets. Around 1450, Johannes Gutenberg introduced what is generally regarded as an independent invention of movable type in Europe (see printing press), along with innovations in casting the type based on a matrix and hand mould. Gutenberg was the first to create his type pieces from an alloy of lead, tin and antimony—the same components still used today.[1] Compared to woodblock printing, movable type pagesetting was quicker and more durable for alphabetic scripts. The metal type pieces were more durable and the lettering was more uniform, leading to typography and fonts. The high quality and relatively low price of the Gutenberg Bible (1455) established the superiority of movable type, and printing presses rapidly spread across Europe, leading up to the Renaissance, and later all around the world. Today, practically all movable type printing ultimately derives from Gutenberg's movable type printing, which is often regarded as the most important invention of the second millennium
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 3:12 pm
Well TNT, you aren't THAT old.. Per Wikipedia.. around the year 200 is the earliest woodblock printing that remains, in China.
type | year | Woodblock printing | 200 | Movable type | 1040 | Intaglio | 1430 | Printing press | 1454 | Lithography | 1796 | Chromolithography | 1837 | Cyanotype | 1842 | Rotary press | 1843 | Offset printing | 1875 | Mimeograph | 1876 | Hot metal typesetting | 1886 | Flexography | 1890 | Screen-printing | 1907 | Photocopier | 1949 | Dye-sublimation | 1957 | Phototypesetting | 1960s | Pad printing | 1960s | Dot matrix printer | 1964 | Laser printer | 1969 | Thermal printer | 1970s | Inkjet printer | 1976 | 3D printing | 1986 | Stereolithography | 1986 | Digital press | 1993 | from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:History_of_printing" And yep the printing press was around in Max's time..
quote:Maximilian I of Habsburg (22 March 1459 – 12 January 1519), the son of Frederick III, Holy Roman Emperor and Eleanor of Portugal, was King of the Romans from 1493 and Holy Roman Emperor from 1508 until his death.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 3:13 pm
RMAO!! That WAS Gidget I ran into while playing in wikipedia..
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 5:09 pm
Gidget plays there a lot. She's miffed that in her childhood all she had was libraries and encyclopedias.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 5:53 pm
We share the same level of "miff".. we did the library but mostly Book of Knowledge and Colliers Encyc.. and dad did make us reach from the Wall Street Journal at times (practice in sounding out words, I think). Both mom and dad were good at 'splaining the whys of some stuff too. But I do love being able to search and wiki and youtube and such..
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:32 pm
Now that we have "spoiled" Jeff's blog, and next week's show........what do we have left to do? Pamy ... I have no idea what the "4" reference was all about, either. If I stumble across an explanation, I'll post it here. I thought Sandra was apologizing to Randy in her exit vote, about his missing of his portion of one meal. I'm not really sure what that was about either. There is a lot they don't show us, so sometimes the things they say (especially in the voting booth) doesn't make sense to us. For instance, they showed us Russell hiding the machete, but they didn't show us Russell putting the blame on Randy, or the others questioning Randy about it.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 6:50 pm
Sounds good Ginger!
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:06 pm
Alaginger Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:05 am said: "Thanks to James Barber at Sucks for transcribing the video of the Secret Scene about Randy and the machete." Ginger, here's the Youtube of that in case anyone wants to see it in action. Survivor: Heroes vs Villains - Secret Scene: Randy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC8XBe6SfPY After the machete mysteriously vanishes, all eyes are on Randy as the culprit
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:09 pm
I am going to assume that Coach's mystical number 4 - once he remembered where he had put it! - means that he will be there for the 4th tribal council!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:35 pm
I still have my first Colliers from 1962 or 3. It is in mint condition. My Dad had me read the WSJ. I liked the stocks. I also liked horse racing. Kinda the same thing. I like the instant gratification. I used to have to note questions that came into my mind until I had time to go to the library. Now most everything I want to know is a click away.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, February 26, 2010 - 7:37 pm
Ginger said: "I thought Sandra was apologizing to Randy in her exit vote, about his missing of his portion of one meal. I'm not really sure what that was about either." In Randy's exit interview at realitytvworld Reality TV World: Did they have something to do with the [lack of interest] in the giant clam you found? I mean why would almost everyone be turning some clam meat out there -- was chicken meat just so plentiful? Randy Bailey: No, in the short time that I was there I think we only cooked two chickens. The chickens are so small that one time I literally had three bites of chicken. And the second time we cooked a chicken I was off talking to -- you know, I wasn't there and they were supposed to save me a piece of chicken, and they didn't. No, those chickens were tiny. In the eight or nine days that I was there, I had three bites of chicken.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, February 27, 2010 - 5:15 am
Thanks Bisc..........now that's cleared up!!! I see new pics and transcripts over at Survivor Fever, so headed that way to do some cut and paste.
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