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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 23, 2010 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Or a mean drunk.. now he's just a known person so this might make the tabloid sites.. before last season "Russell Hantz" wouldn't have been on their radar at all. Too bad he is now.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, April 23, 2010 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
He has had similar events in his past, although they were quite a few years ago now.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

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Must be confusing for him....half the people want to pat him on the back and the other half want to burn his socks.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-21-2003

Friday, April 23, 2010 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
Not surprisingly, it was a woman he pushed down.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, April 23, 2010 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
LoL it's hard to get a "scoop" on this board. Just saw a piece on EW about Russell being arrested (is it bad to admit how happy that made me?...ah the through of the little dude in cuffs and cops having the upper hand just filled me with joy!!). I copied it to post here, but actually Mama's article had much better detail in it!

As for the why of it all, my money is on the fact he doesn't just play a derriere on TV, he is one in real life too!!!

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Long Live the Queen
(or "Poverty" as Rupert calls her)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That expression sure captures her. These players are making it a great season. I love a real competition and strategic play.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

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None of the guys on here have said it...so I will say it for them...."Those hips don't lie!"

Llkoolaid
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08-01-2001

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llkoolaid a private message Print Post    
I saw Coach at Ponderoza but I can't find any for Courtney or JT can someone post a link please.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

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CBS - Ponderosa. Ponderosa and many "secret" scenes as well.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?vs=Ponderosa

Ann
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09-27-2005

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ann a private message Print Post    
Hope this is the right thread to post this article.

The producers knew how good Russell was at finding the HII so they really should have changed the HII rules for this season's game, especially seeing as none of the contestants were unaware of this fact as they hadn't had a chance to see Russell's prior gameplay. I really found it to be unfair.

http://realitytvworld.com/news/jeff-probst-survivor-changing-hidden-idols-due-russell-hantz-10871.php

Jeff Probst: 'Survivor' changing hidden idols due to Russell Hantz


By Christopher Rocchio, 05/03/2010

Russell Hantz has apparently made an indelible mark on Survivor when it comes the handling of hidden Immunity Idols.

"Over the last two seasons Russell has proven that he has an uncanny ability to find the idols. In fact, he's so good at it that he's forever changed how we will handle idols in future seasons," wrote host Jeff Probst in his Entertainment Weekly blog on Friday.

"Next season it will take more than just looking under a rock to find a hidden idol. I won't give away what we're doing, but in planning our creative for next season we coined a phrase, 'The Russell Factor' and it influenced how we will play the hidden idol next season."

Hantz used the hidden Immunity Idols he found during Survivor: Samoa, which aired last fall, to make it all the way to the final Tribal Council -- where he eventually lost to his ally Natalie White.

At one point, he was even able to find an idol without a clue.

Hantz carried his ability to locate the competition's hidden idols with him onto Survivor: Heroes Vs. Villains, causing him to proclaim that he's the "king" of them during last week's episode.

"I'd have to agree," wrote Probst.

Ann
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09-27-2005

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ann a private message Print Post    
Edited to correct my above statement from "unaware" to "aware".}




"The producers knew how good Russell was at finding the HII so they really should have changed the HII rules for this season's game, especially seeing as none of the contestants were aware of this fact as they hadn't had a chance to see Russell's prior gameplay. I really found it to be unfair."

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Ann, I am not so sure I agree that it is unfair. Some players have an advantage in the puzzles, some in the running and swimming, some in hanging on by their toes.
Russell finds those idols by hours of searching, and the others could do it if they wanted to.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Yes, one of the things he was bad mouthed for was not hanging with the tribe and going off by himself. Of course when they edit him finding the idol, it looks like he just ran out there and went right to it.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 11:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
In an interview he said he spent many hours searching for the idols during his first season.

He also said he just used the logic from watching other seasons that there would be an idol at each camp and that they were usually fairly close to the camp. He said he saw no reason to wait for clues. Just start looking.

He seemed surprised that the others did not seem to realize that the idols were there. It was like, "Don't they watch the show."

I have said for several season that if I was there I would start looking for the idol the very first day. What do you have to lose?

Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
The producers also knew that the girls had the advantage when it came to staying on those poles. Should they have not done them because of that? The producers knew that Boston Rob was great at puzzles. Should they have not done them because of that? The producers know the men have the advantage at strength competitions. Should they have not done them because of that? What difference does it make that no one saw Russel find HIIs last season? They should have all been out there busting their butts to find them regardless of how well anyone else was at finding them. How about the unfair advantage that any of them have over Russell in the social aspect of this game? Should they change the voting rules so that no one is allowed to vote for who they like best and make them base their vote on game play only? Everyone has their strengths & their weaknesses. The game is what it is and all of the players need to use those strengths & weaknesses to their advantage.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Everyone has had a chance to see each others game play while no one has seen Russell's, for me that is a unfair advantage. But no worries I can't see anyone giving Russell the million dollars...he's completely lacking the social aspect of the game, again. So he'll be out there all these days for naught.

Gurliegirl
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06-20-2006

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gurliegirl a private message Print Post    
And Lil, if that's the case, we get to see him cry again.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
To quote the great man himself "The name of the game is Outwit...Outlast....Outplay...they should change the name to Outsocialize." This was in an interview after he lost his first season.
On the other hand to quote Amanda..."Without an alliance you are doomed"

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
On the other hand to quote Amanda..."Without an alliance you are doomed"

Russell never would have gotten far in either season without his alliance; but as Natalie said in one of her clips last season, she wanted to go to the end with Russell because she could beat him. I see Parvati teaming up with him because as a previous winner, she needs someone next to her that can't win.

And I've posted this before, but to quote Mark Burnett, "In the end, how you treat people is going to directly influence whether you win the money or not.

"I believe there are two factors in life that drive success: there's likeability and there's capability. The real winner in life is both capable and likeable but if you had to choose between the two, you should choose likeable over capable because people are going to do more for someone they like than someone who just happens to be capable." Sydney Morning Herald

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Re Russ's "The name of the game is Outwit...Outlast....Outplay...they should change the name to Outsocialize." - he doesn't get it. Outsocializing is a part of all the other "outs".

Gurlie, I don't know if we'll see him cry again. I think he cried on the last reunion show because he knew then that he didn't make it to the Allstars final 2. I could be wrong, but I could be right.

Hypermom
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08-12-2001

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
While the others did not get to see Russell's game play, he did not go in knowing the others and having alliances before the game started as they did.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Well when watching the Ponderosa clips, they all don't seem to happy with Russell and seem to think he was the one who hid the machete. Looks like if he makes it all the way it could be a repeat of last season and he won't get squat not even favorite, that will hopefully go to Boston Rob.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
They did not get to see Russell play, but he also did not get to see how his play worked out. They at least have gone through it and can analyze what they did wrong. He did not have that advantage.

When you really think about it, Russell is naive. He sees Survivor as a game, not a soap opera. He really believes that if a person is the best player, he deserves to win. And of course to him, that person would be one who puts together an alliance, and manages to eliminate his comptetion.

If he was put into the position of voting, I really believe he would vote for the person who played the best game even it that person got him eliminated. He would not take it personally. He just does not understand that most of them do make it personal. So the socialize side of it confuses him. That is the one thing that he has not learned from watching the show.