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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, January 04, 2010 - 9:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the heads up Ginger. I guess I missed your list. Our lists are the same so either they are right or they both got the wrong information. I sort of think they are right.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever we have a guide to help us remember which seasons the players from Heroes Versus Villains originally appeared in:
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Males:

Colby Donaldson - Survivor: Australian Outback, Survivor: All Stars
Coach Ben Wade - Survivor: Tocantins
James Clement - Survivor China, Survivor: Micronesia
Randy Bailey - Survivor: Gabon
Rob Mariano - Survivor Marquesas, Survivor: All Stars
Rupert Boneham - Survivor: Pearl Islands, Survivor: All Stars
Russell Hantz: Survivor: Samoa
Tom Westman - Survivor: Palau - *winner
Tyson Apostol - Survivor: Tocantins


Females:

Amanda Kimmel - Survivor: China, Survivor: Micronesia
Candice Woodcock - Survivor: Cook Islands
Courtney Yates - Survivor: China
Danielle DiLorenzo - Survivor: Exile Island
Jerri Manthey - Survivor: Australian Outback, Survivor: All Stars
Parvati Shallow - Survivor: Cook Islands, Survivor: Micronesia - *winner
Sandra Diaz-Twine - Survivor: Pearl Islands - *winner
Stephenie LaGrossa - Survivor: Palau, Survivor: Guatemala
Sugar Kiper - Survivor: Gabon

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
was Micronesia an ASS? have we already had 2 ASS?

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Micronesia was Fans vs. Favs - it was half-ASS.

Cwcoop
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04-19-2008

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cwcoop a private message Print Post    
LOL Merrysea.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
LOL, Merry. That is the funniest post I've read here in quite some time.

Solitaryphoenix
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11-08-2008

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Solitaryphoenix a private message Print Post    
AP just posted this, which confirms the lineup that's been posted here:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100107/ap_en_ot/us_tv_survivor20

Solitaryphoenix
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11-08-2008

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Solitaryphoenix a private message Print Post    
...and this item has a picture!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34739276/ns/entertainment-reality_tv/

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Merry, LMAO!!!! hahahaaa!! ahhhhh fan vs fav, thanks!

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Hey all,
CBS has all new S20 clips and promos up today so thought I'd pop over here to say hello to everyone. Disappointed Survivor isn't on tonight. Don't know what to do with myself on Thursdays without Survivor. Sooooo looking forward to S20, and looking forward to spending the season with all of you!!

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

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Interesting excerpt from Dalton Ross' blog at EW.com:

The filming for Heroes Vs. Villains commenced on August 9 on the island on Apia in Samoa at the same two campsites used for season 19. (Filming wrapped in mid-September just before the tsunami that devastated the island.) The contestants arrived for the start of the game via four New Zealand military helicopters and were immediately thrust into a brutally physical challenge that results in one topless player and two painful injuries. (All of the challenges will be based on classic challenges from past seasons.)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdj3gOem_I4&feature=fvsr

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 6:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is the interview of the players done by Jenna Morasca:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Dg4-S-duU

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Bits and pieces cut and pasted from Jeff's interview with T.V. Guide:
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"I was very excited to see Russell (Hantz) from this past season come back," says Probst. "Russell was a decision we had to make very early on because we were casting the show as we were still shooting season nineteen. Halfway through the season, we thought this guy was going to be great, and we were right, so we held a spot for him."

Surprisingly, there are no contestants from the blockbuster first season on board. "We wanted (million dollar winner turned prison inmate) Richard Hatch, but couldn't work it out with the court system," tells Probst. "They weren't too keen on him leaving the country. Something to do with back taxes."

And Probst also would have liked to have seen a return for third season winner Ethan Zohn, who has been waging a brave battle against cancer. "He's certainly somebody who is on our all-time heroes list," praises Probst. "It didn't work out, but he's representing us in a heroic way right now in the way he's sharing his story and inspiring people to stay strong and keep fighting."

Probst says the first episode will open with the cast being informed of their hero or villain status, news that came as a surprise to some of the stunned players. "When all the villains found out they were a villain, they said, 'I'm a villain??!," says the host. "Boston Rob took particular offense to being called a villain, but I told him, 'How can you not be a villain? You lured Lex into saving your girl, and then you cut his throat.' That's beautiful villain behavior.'"

Fortunately, Probst says that by the time participants learned their fates, it was too late to bail out. "We were already out there when we told them," he says. "So they couldn't leave."


Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
looking forward to this show... what is the start date???

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 09, 2010 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
February 11

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, January 11, 2010 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Probst on players (transcribed)

Tom Westman is probably the greatest overall winner we've had. And by that I simply mean everybody liked him across the board. Nobody who watched Palau said, "I wish Tom hadn't have won."

Colby Donaldson, when you look up "heroes" in Survivor, he's the first. I think Colby has something to prove. He came back in the All-Star season and was pretty flat. He had a lot of hype around him and he didn't do much. Nine years later he's in better shape than he was the first time around and he seems very focused.

Candice Woodcock I think is a surprise to a lot of people. Mutiny is a big thing. Nobody had ever done it before Candice, and nobody has ever done it since. And it was, "If you don't like the tribe you're on, step off the mat." She stepped off the mat, and the reason being was, "I belong on that tribe, that's who I want to win with, that's who I'm loyal to, they need me." We saw that as heroic. A lot of people see mutiny as villainous, in this case we didn't.

Stephanie LaGrossa, I mean her first season in Palau, she was one of the most heroic women to ever play. Left alone, the last remaining person on her tribe, fought her way and actually ended up merged with the other group and still stayed alive deep into the show. I don't think there's any question Stephanie's a hero and a lot of people will probably be rooting for her again.

Amanda Kimmel, the only person, I'm pretty sure, in the history of Survivor to play the game for 78 days. She went to the final both times. The only thing Amanda lacks from being the greatest female hero ever is the closing argument. She needs to go watch The Verdict, watch Paul Newman work the jury over. That's what you've got to do in this game to win.

James Clement is a guy massive in size, he's just sort of the quiet giant. I'm not sure about James' desire to win. James was a guy voted out with two idols in his pocket; two hidden immunity idols, he didn't play either of them. I think what James has learned is it's not about the challenges, it's about the talkers. I think that's where James' education needs to come into play if he's going to win.

Rupert Boneham: If you're going to do heroes versus villains, you have to have Rupert. He is probably the most popular player ever. Kids still love that tie-dyed pirate with the beard, spearing fish and saying, (shakes fist) "AAAA!" And Rupert is still the same. He's a little bit older but he's still got the beard, he's still got the tie-dye, and I think kids are still going to want to see him get in the water and look for fish.

Jessica "Sugar" Kiper: Sugar is an interesting choice for hero because she gave us another dimension. Sugar's whole game was "I want good people to win." So by definition she is a heroine because she wants goodness. She did her best to get bad people out of the game, and I think Sugar is back to try and make that happen again. Sugar's probably the type to say, "I don't care if I win as long as somebody on my tribe of heroes does."

James "JT" Thomas: If there's a guy who could rival Tom Westman for being one of the most likeable guys to win the game, it's JT. Played a great game. Very much like Tom, athletic when he had to be, social when he needed to be, had a really good alliance, and knew when to cut it loose. Tom had Ian, JT had Stephen, both of them took them all the way down to the end and they cut 'em loose and won the game. JT's definitely a hero.

Cirie Fields is the woman who got off the couch and played Survivor. Now Cirie is back for a third time and she's very different. Cirie is a very confident woman. Physically she looks different, mentally she's different. She now knows she can do anything. If she can last the first five or six episodes she will be a major threat to win.

Randy Bailey called himself the king of Gabon. He was one of the most despicable people. Randy's a wedding photographer who hates love. Randy had no one to come visit him during the "loved ones," had he had a loved one visit there was nobody coming. Randy's a villain, and the thing about Randy he loves being a villain, he's glad you don't like him because he doesn't like you either.

Courtney Yates is such a clever villain that I dedicated an entire segment to her in the Survivor: China live show. Courtney may only weigh 95 pounds but she can slice and dice you with her language like nobody else. She knows she's not the strongest woman, but she also knows how to play the game and find her way. And, man, when she's doing her interviews, she will destroy you.

Sandra Diaz-Twine is a quiet villain, but Sandra is for sure a villain. Sandra did things in the Pearl Islands like dump all the tribe food, all the fish they had, and then set it up so that her friend Christa would take the blame, and then never tell anybody it wasn't Christa. Sandra won the game doing stuff like that. Her whole mantra in Survivor: Pearl Islands was "As long as it ain't me." That's a villain.

Parvati Shallow engineered one of the greatest female alliances ever. They took out all of the people that were loyal to them. They don't have a friend in James any more, they don't have a friend in Ozzy any more. And Parvati was the ringleader of that group, and for that Parvati is, in my book, a villain in the game. And is definitely somebody that could win again.

Russell Hantz: I think it says a lot about Survivor that 19 seasons in we still found somebody who in one season cracked the top five most notorious male villains of all time. And that's Russell. Russell is the most devious player ever. Russell is full-on devious. And after what he did in 19 those guys better watch out because he will damn sure do it abgain in 20.

Tyson Apostol is a really interesting villain for a lot of reasons. One is he's a Morman and he's a despicable villain; as he said in his season, "I love making people cry." He really does. I don't think it's a put-on. I think he really didn't like a lot of the people in his tribe and let them know. I'm hoping that Tyson lasts long enough that we can get some of those one-liners. And also see what will happen if Tyson gets in an alliance that doesn't betray him.

Jerry Manthey is the poster child for the Black Widow, she is the ultimate female femme fatale. And, man, lo and behold, nine years later Jerri still looks good. She looks pretty much like she did the first season. And she's got a different way she wants to play. Even though she's on the villains tribe I think she wants to play more heroic. It will be interesting to see if that works out.

Danielle DiLorenzo: I think Danielle could last for awhile. What Danielle is really good at is aligning with the right people and then staying out of the way. And like she did in her season, she got down to a situation where she knew she was going to be in a tie-breaker, she needed to know how to make fire, Terry helped her make fire, and then she betrayed him and voted him out and cost him a million bucks. That makes her a villain, and I'd say makes her a decent threat to be in the game way past the merge.

"Boston Rob" Mariano, for me it was a no-brainer. The only question for me was would he do it. Rob married Amber, who he met during Survivor: All-Stars, asked her to marry him during the live show, then had a televised wedding when they did get married. And they just had a baby. And now he's coming back out here to play. And I think one of the guiding philosophies for Rob was "You know what, everything we really have came as a result of Survivor." And if I were betting and I had one shot to put my money on somebody, I'd put it on Rob.

Ben "Coach" Wade: The thing about Coach that I find so fascinating is people absolutely hated Coach. He didn't do anything. An interesting thing aboat Coach is that he said, "Last time I played for the honor of the game, this time I'm playing for the glory." This time Coach wants to win. Can he win? No. But if somebody's smart they will take Coach with them deep into the game because he's entertaining as hell, he'll keep you laughing. And he's really no threat to ever beat you.

Tntitanfan
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Monday, January 11, 2010 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Very interesting! Thanks, Ginger -

Merrysea
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Monday, January 11, 2010 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Mutiny is a big thing. Nobody had ever done it before Candice, and nobody has ever done it since.

Has anyone ever had a chance to mutiny before or since? And wasn't she just going back to her original tribe?

I do think that, given the opportunity, Shambo would have mutinied after her first visit to Foa Foa.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

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I just found this article over at Reality Blurred regarding future seasons beyond S20. It's an interesting idea.


Survivor may air one all-star season, one regular season a year, using the same location
Survivor 21 »
by Andy Dehnart / January 5, 2010, 1:10 PM


CBS has yet to officially announce the renewal of Survivor past season 20, but when it does, there are major changes coming: The show will keep up what it started in Samoa and use just one location a year for two seasons, and producers are considering including returning cast members during one of the two seasons every year.

First, if the show is renewed, it will stay with the back-to-back production schedule that started last summer, and was entirely about saving money. The application for seasons 21 and 22, which is due tomorrow, confirms this, as it says contestants “must be willing to travel to a remote location selected by Producers for seven (7) weeks for a period between summer and early fall 2010.” Previously, the spring season was shot from late October through December.

Back-to-back seasons means the production does not move, and every other time the show has shot in the same location, they’ve had a twist for subsequent seasons (Pearl Islands, All-Stars, Exile Island; Samoa, Heroes vs. Villains), in order to make the same place more interesting.

I’ve learned that one plan involves bringing back past cast members for one of those two seasons a year, essentially meaning that every other season would be some kind of all-star season. That plan is at the very least, being discussed, and the motivation for that is in part financial, as finding, interviewing, and screening potential contestants is far more expensive than just calling back old cast members. It’s also less risky in terms of finding strong characters, because as good as casting is, sometimes there are Bretts.

Undoubtedly, the every-other-season all-star season would be themed, perhaps to some of the long-rumored (or long-wished for) all-star structures, like bringing back those who were medically evacuated or evicted first for a second chance. As of season 20, CBS has a pool of 301 people to draw from. And those seasons could mix all-star and new contestants, as Survivor Micronesia did.

Again, at this point, this is not absolute; like casts, season twists sometimes aren’t locked in until just before that season starts. How well viewers receive Survivor Heroes vs. Villains could play a role, too, in encouraging or discouraging the future inclusion of all-stars. But if it means saving money and getting higher ratings, you can bet that’s the direction CBS will take.


Here's a link to the original article:
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_21/2010_Jan_05_future_plans}

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
so quiet in this forum while other sites are going into the hundreds of pages. spoiler info this season is so scattered! hard to tell truth from fiction.

looks like the reunion this weekend was a blast! a survivor fan fantasy with well over 200 survivors on hand. lots of great pics and videos floating around the internet.

interesting point... on the CBS official video of the reunion event, russell states:

"It is mentally, physically and emotionally rough on ya. It's not easy; it's one of the hardest things I've ever... THE hardest thing I've ever done in my life."

after all his bravado about how easy Survivor was and how everyone around him was weak, it's kind of refreshing to see him acknowledge that it wasn't that easy. i do give him credit for doing two seasons back to back and that might have something to do with his changing his tune. it does seem like he's finally owning up to the fact that it was challenging in every way and not the cake walk he wanted us to believe it was.

for my fellow jeff probst fans, the CBS website has a new photo gallery, "jeff probst through the years." here's a link -- http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/photos/photos.php?v=39439

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
for my fellow jeff probst fans, the CBS website has a new photo gallery,

Wow Jeff has not aged.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Wow Jeff has not aged.

I was thinking the same thing Bon. His hair changes slightly from season to season but he really shows no signs of aging. Still hot, hot, hot!!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Wednesday, January 13, 2010 - 11:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Yah, once you have adorable dimples on a ruggedly handsome face there's not much that can ruin it. Age only makes it better!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, January 18, 2010 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Dani at Survivor Skills who is tracking SurvivorFandom:

Ashley @ SurvivorFandom
January 15, 2010
Update: I just got some new information from missyae, the final vote between two girls, I will reveal who it is at a later date, is very close. The heroes go after Stephanie and Tom at the onset because they do not fit into their LA clique. Rupert wants to kill chickens in the camp but they will not let him. They argue over food right from the start. Most of all the challenges we will see are from the past with some minor changes done to them.