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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XX - Heroes versus Villains ~ 2: Survivor XX - Heroes versus Villains: 14th Show Finale, May 16th: Archive through May 17, 2010 users admin

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Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Russell doesn't get it. He thinks if America voted, he should have won, but instead the jury voted and he lost. Well, he didn't consider the jury votes as he played, the other two finalists did. Everybody's game might have been different if they didn't have to worry about jury votes over the 39 days.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
How much does Parvati get for being 2nd?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Second prize has always been $100,000.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I also think that the other players not seeing Russell's season gave him an advantage of sorts, but I don't think Russell won player of the season bc he's the best player ever, but bc he was able to manipulate so many people to do what he wanted, and from the other tribe too--that has never happened.

I don't think Russell is the all time greatest player of the game, and I do think he had help with the idols, but none of the other players had to listen to him, they chose to, for whatever reason, they still chose to. He was in it to win it, just like everyone else. I really wanted him eliminated, though, but you can't have everything.

I like Rob, but I ended up wanting Sandra or Parvati to win player of the season, but, oh well, they were first and second--did I mention how happy I was for Sandra

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Parvati didn't win because she had Russell-stink all over her. She was far and away the best player in this game. But to get to final three, she did have to align with Russell. And Russell was so hated, he tainted anybody in alliance with him. However, if Russell had not been in the game, Parvati is correct in her assessment that everybody else was gunning for her, and she would have been voted off early. So, it was a Catch-22 for Parvati, but she is SO good, she almost pulled it off anyway.

I think I would have to begrudgingly rank her as best Survivor player of all times. Case in point, when Russell was about to get away with the whopper about why he voted out Jerri rather than Parvati, Parvati butted right in and told the jury that Russell had bragged about having Jerri's vote, so he had to have her on the jury.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
I thoroughly enjoyed this season. I liked all parts..the scheming, betrayals, manipulation....everything. I thought Parvati should have won the million. But I have to admit that Sandra is like a Survivor Savant...she sees patterns and holes and navigates through them and eventually comes out the other side...a two time winner.

Russell and Rupert both need to get over themselves. They're human beings like the rest of us, and not as entitled as they seem to think. I guess most of America disagrees with me on that, since they were the top 2 in the fan voting. I'd have voted Jerri if I'd voted. She was a revelation this season.

Can't wait for Nicaragua, but in the meantime we've got Big Brother, True Blood, White Collar, Burn Notice, Warehouse 13, Eureka, and Covert Affairs to entertain us this summer...

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Russell explained his downfall himself...he doesn't play to win, he plays to get to the finals. Everyone else plays to win!

He doesn't understand the game.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
I haven't had time to read all this but I have question. Did anyone else catch that Russell knew he had not won Samoa before this season was over? according to his confessional. They had not yet had the live show for Samoa and yet he already knew he had not won. He knew and he knew before the live show tonight as well. There was a post on his facebook and he confirmed that Sandra had won before the show aired.

Wavewatcher
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09-09-2006

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wavewatcher a private message Print Post    
Agree with you Keldogg. Russell won the 'player' bonus, in my
opinion, because people enjoyed watching him...make a fool of
himself, display his lack of social skills, dig that hole deeper and
deeper, alienate everyone, etc...somehow we are fascinated with
things like train wrecks, car crashes, and Russell.

I will be happy to not see him anymore. Won't be watching any
morning show that's for sure.

Congrats to Sandra and Parvati, too.

Scarebaby
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07-31-2005

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scarebaby a private message Print Post    
Congrats to Sandra!!! I'm so thrilled she won, and personally I hope never to see Russell's face or bald pate again.

I had to laugh, Juju2bigdog, when I read your post, becuase I was going to post exactly the same thing -- the fact that Russell's stink was all over Parvati was what lost it for her. And the fact that Sandra was "against" Russell was a big part of what won it for her.

Anyone who says Sandra doesn't deserve this win is mistaken, and Russell's theory that there's a "flaw" in the game is friggin' ludicrous!

Northstar
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09-29-2008

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northstar a private message Print Post    
Great season!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Jimmer.... I played the part again and again where Russell said "and I didn't" after talking about winning his last season. If you watch it, the part where he was saying about bringing two people who he thought couldn't win to the final was in voiceover, then they cut to a shot of him sitting in the sand saying "and I didn't." I think that bit was just a random bit of some other conversation that they cut in to try to fool the audience.

Russell seems to be slurring his words, is he drunk? Maybe had some tooth surgery. Jeff should have stopped him talking much sooner, if just for his own good. What a horribly bad loser.

Very happy Sandra won! Ecstatic Russell lost! Shame Parvati couldn't shrug off the Russell stink, as a 4/5 finish would have been good. I liked how at tribal they showed us three votes each to get us going - it was possible Russell got those other three. Possible, but unlikely <evil laugh>.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
While Boston Rob may have correctly pointed out that Russell doesn't play to win, he plays to get to the end--and BR said that was one of many differences between them, Rob should not have been the one to say it with such gusto. If correct, at least Russell gets the highest amount out of his potential. Rob plays to win--and has not won more Survivors than any other in the history of the game, and lost in every other reality show he's been in. So Rob is falling well short of his goal--or in other wards, failing each time where Russell is at least succeeding in his attempts.

I also think Russell had a good point that puts him in a catch 22. In order to get to the end he has to play that way. If he doesn't, he doesn't make it that far even. Is he the best ever to play the game? I think he is--but I don't think he's the best Survivor. Sandra winning twice and Parvati playing more days than any other player are ways to evaluate the best ever Survivor. (and she's won as well as playing the most days)

I gained respect for Coach when he said he acme to realize he was an arrogant ahole after watching himself the first season he played and wanted to do something about that. NOt many people would 1) realize that about themselves and 2) if they did, admit it on live national TV.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Heroes vs Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Colby Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHlYcsVGiEA

Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Colby Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7SrCzBFZsE

Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Jerri Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2fNEJcpNTU

Survivor: Heroes vs Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Jerri Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY43ovFz8m8

Survivor: Heroes vs Villains - Life at Ponderosa: Going Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpdKlWiIRwA

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Interesting, in the Ponderosa Colby Pt. 2, is where Rupert finally discovers that Sandra really DID have their back. Kind of late Rupert, sorry Dude.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I think Russell could tell he lost both times by how the final Tribal Councils went. You have to figure that they won't show us everything that went on to keep the suspense. Also, as the clips show, they do spend one final night at Ponderosa with the jury. Right there, the jury probably gives them a strong idea of how they voted.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 3:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I didn't watch this "all stars" season because of Russell. I kept hoping to hear he was kicked out so I could watch it. I absolutely detested the man last season and wasn't going to spend any of my time watching him again. I'm glad to hear he didn't get a single jury vote, however I'm sorry to hear that he just doesn't get it.

Dear Russell, you lost twice. Both times you lost to a woman. You had an advantage this time because these people didn't know how you played the game. Yet you still lost. To another woman. You have no idea how much I enjoy that fact.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 3:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Parvati seemed to be offended that Russell's stank rubbed off on her and probably cost her the game. I would guess that after watching the whole season there may have been an additional vote or two that went in her favor - she certainly wasn't hiding under his skirt the whole game. She made big plays on her own, hid information from him and physically ran circles around everyone else. I don't think there's any question that if Russell hadn't offended the shit out of everyone who came in contact with him, Parvati would have won and Russell would have come in second.

I'm glad Sandra won nonetheless - she got busy causing trouble when she needed to (eg when Courtney was in trouble), but otherwise didn't stir the pot unnecessarily or offend prospective jury members. And her repeated vocalization that she wanted Russell out from the beginning just made me laugh and laugh.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 4:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
What Rob said about Russell playing to make it to the final 3 and not to win is correct. Not to be a broken record but he doesn't play the social end of the game. This doesn't mean that he has to become fast friends with the others he just has to be careful not to be offensive. And he needs to earn a bit of respect...and he can't manage that. Russell plays survivor like someone that plays chess with a missing queen.

It should be several years (if survivor sticks around several more years) before they have another All Star type show and I'm sure Russell will be invited to play again and I doubt he'll play any differently. His learning curve is non existent.

I hope The dragon slayer and the original black widow begin a romance. I think they'd make a great couple.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
In Jerri Pt 1 at Ponderosa, toward the end when they are all dancing, look for Colby. He is the dorkiest dancer I have ever seen...LOL

Reenie
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06-24-2006

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 5:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reenie a private message Print Post    
This was a great season. Amazing that Russell didn't get even one vote~ He so does not understand the game and how to win. He might find many HII's, but he is clueless about the "social aspect" of the game".

Well, ON TO BIG BROTHER! I wonder when it starts? July right?

Taysmomcj
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03-24-2008

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 5:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taysmomcj a private message Print Post    
Reenie, BB starts July 9th. They had a commerical during the Survivor finale last night.

Reenie
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06-24-2006

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reenie a private message Print Post    
Thanks Taysmomcj! I taped the show and fast forwarded thru the commercials, so I didn't catch that!

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Not a Sprint customer, but voted online for Russell. He did not pay me. No one has ever surpassed him for entertainment value. The fact that so many people are riled up by him only pleases him. He would much rather have that than be ignored. How you get votes from people you have kicked off is a problem for me? Even a great social game can't get around that. Sandra von by default. The vote was against Russell and Parv as much as anything. Of course they are mad. As to Rupert's million....he was very popular and when he lost I think the money came from another source than the show.
It won't be the same without Russell next time, but at least fresh faces.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 17, 2010 - 5:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Videomic and Tishala, you did a spectacular job spoiling thank you so much!!!