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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:22 am
Great show last night. It was smart of Russell to figure out there was going to be a tie between him and Parvati. But I don't see it as a totally awesome play. Good play and I enjoyed watching Russ last night, but not totally awesome. It made for good tv for sure. I just can't give him as much credit as some others give him. It's not like he really got Tyson to switch his vote...I realize Tyson maybe wouldn't have switched his vote if Russ hadn't talked to him, but maybe Tyson would have switched anyway. I guess I see it as more a really stupid move by Tyson more than a totally awesome move by Russ. Finally the Hero tribe voted intelligently.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:25 am
Happymom--Regarding more of a stupid move by Tyson, yes but he wouldn't have made the stupid move had Russel not planted the seed. Also regarding how the Hero tribe voted, I was actually surprised they voted James off, it seemed they were going to vote off Colby. I myself would have probably kept James as at least his heart is still in the game.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:43 am
I guess I see it as more a really stupid move by Tyson more than a totally awesome move by Russ I agree happymom, Russel really took a chance and it worked, it could just have easily not and he'd be out. I don't think I have been this excited about Survivor in many years. I'm the opposite, I have no favourite at all and since I really don't like so many of them (Although I used to in their original seasons) that its making it a bit boring to watch or root for anyone. I don't like the All Star shows where Alliances are made even before the show starts.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:45 am
Miz, I think Tyson might have still voted for Parvati even if Russ hadn't said anything. He found her very annoying.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 10:54 am
link interview with Tyson
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 11:32 am
Happymom---Interesting interview with Tyson, I guess he was going to vote for Pavarti regardless of Russel's talk to him. So you would be right that it was really more of a stupid move on Tyson's than a power play by Russel. Tribal council sure was exciting! Cinnamongirl--I don't have a 'favourite' this season but I'm enjoying the Boston Rob vs Russel debacle. lol
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 12:19 pm
At the beginning of the season I liked Russell more than I liked him when he last appeared on "Survivor." Now I'm really on his side. I'm enjoying watching him manipulate people--and I think I like it/approve of his manipulations because he was so up-front about it coming into this season. He clearly set up all the pins and let us know what we were doing so we could enjoy watching him knock them down. I think he's playing the game very well this season. I will miss James, too, and in general have been rooting for the Heroes tribe over the Villains, but have to give kudos to Russell for his machinations.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 12:24 pm
Except that Russell did something that has rarely been done before that I recall. He gave away the idol. It was a brilliant play because it enormously helped a member of his alliance and possibly more importantly it cemented his relationship with Coach by appearing to be a man of his word. As far as Russell's success or failure in seasons not involving HII's we can only speculate. He would certainly be playing a different game so who knows how that would have gone. As much as I enjoy Rob, he at least equaled Russell in arrogance this show.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 12:38 pm
My observations. Rob = confidence. Russell = arrogance. Big difference. They are both able to outwit most of the other players; I just find Rob a tad bit more humble and pleasant accepting his demise...
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 1:17 pm
lol! I think they are both arrogant and confident! (I do love Rob though, but think he is getting a tad too arrogant and feel as though it may begin to annoy me. I love Russ only to watch on Survivor.) Jimmer, I don't know. It was a risky move for sure. He is lucky that Tyson flipped his vote, otherwise, he'd be gone. I do agree that it probably made Coach think about trusting him. I just think that Coach is so easily swayed by whoever talks to him though.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 1:18 pm
My big question is why Jeff still cannot pronounce Parvati's name. Her name is not Poverty. The "R" comes before the "V".
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Jenjackso
Member
02-10-2009
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 1:35 pm
Revisionist's history in that interview. We clearly see what Russell was really saying, even with editing it doesn't match Tyson's story. I think Russell is one of the two best players of all time and thankfully, Rob is the other one, so we get a decent show to watch. I love Rob but was glad about how it went down because this is real game playing and we get to see more, I hope.
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 2:10 pm
As I remember Rob lined everyone up on how they were to vote in order to make the tie. I wonder why Tyson didn't discuss it with Rob after his chat with Russell. Russell spoke to Parv and Dani and said let's three vote Tyson....then he went to Tyson and nearly cried because he was having to vote Parv out. Then he gave in immunity idol to Parv. I've watched all seasons, and I don't ever remember someone doing anything that slick. Now in the TV previews it shows Rob really seriously trying to take Russell down. That may happen, but remember people how they do love to lead us down the garden path on these previews. Rob's problem is he is hard to beat and sometimes that goes against a strong person. We'll see.......No matter how weak a player, they all have dreams of outlasting.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 2:16 pm
Dalton Ross' interview with Tyson: http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/03/25/survivor-heroes-vs-villians-tyson-apostol-dumbest-move-ever/
quote:Explain to me what the hell you were thinking. I put my theory in the recap as to why you may have done it. What was your theory? That you were trying to buy a little good will with Russell so that down the line you could keep him as a possible back pocket option for an alliance. That’s exactly what it was. I wanted him as a plan B. But I knew that we would be too strong if he had other allies in the game. So I wanted Parvati gone. That way Russell would have nowhere to go but to me. And I knew he had the idol, which I wanted for my own evil bidding. The difference between Russell’s game-plan and what I would do is that I would stab somebody in the back, but I would do it so gently that they actually liked me for it, while Russell would come in with a sickle. And once he was done chopping the person in the back, he would cut them into little pieces. And then I don’t know what he would do with them, but he would make it super painful. And that, I think, is a very faulty way to play the game in that you’re not gonna win anybody’s vote. I was kind of hoping that Russell would stick around, but out of nowhere else to go, he would have to come to me.
I think that pretty much describes the glaring weakness in Russell's game play -- he loses too many votes in the end.
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Aitch41
Member
01-09-2009
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 2:35 pm
My thought for next week - Rob goes. Did you see Russell talk directly to Coach during TC? About trust and word, etc.... I think with he's bold move and he's eye contact/speech to Coach, Russell pulls Coach over with his vote, maybe brings Jerri too. Having the numbers to vote Rob out. Just my thought!!! 
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Mimi
Member
04-30-2009
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 3:30 pm
Welcome to Connies! Holly I don't think because it was a complicated bit of business to get Tyson voted off is any reason to think the producers are orchestrating the Russell show. Remember these people have all played Survivor at least once before. They all know how it works and have hours and hours to discuss what they want to happen. Naja I love the idea that there might me a mole. Brenda I too wanted Rob and Russell to get together at the beginning. Then I wanted them to start backstapping each other at the end. All in all, I'm loving this season.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 4:11 pm
If Tyson had told Rob that he wanted to vote for Parvati, Rob could have changed another vote to Russell. So Tyson's story doesn't add up.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 4:20 pm
Crap, I missed a show? I turned on the TV and there is basketball. grr.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 4:31 pm
Maris, you missed one of the all-time great shows, watch it on the Survivor CBS site.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 6:45 pm
Here's yet another exit interview from my favorite site: Exclusive: Tyson Apostol talks about 'Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains' realitytvworld
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Mimi
Member
04-30-2009
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:17 pm
Do the immunity idols go back into play?
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 7:21 pm
It did last time -
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:06 pm
Maris, the show was yesterday, Wednesday, because there were big basketball playoffs on tonight, Thursday, the regular night.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:30 pm
Since I'm team 'Rob is arrogance personified', I really enjoyed watching him stew at TC last night. I'm just sorry it was Tyson gone instead of him. Here's hoping to many more Immunity Idols being planted out there!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, March 25, 2010 - 8:42 pm
Is there an HII at the Heroes camp? And if so do they know about it? I've forgotten.
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