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Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever for Transcript and pics, and also to TDT for a couple of the pics and a boot spoiler.

Okay, this week is actually the "Sumo Wrestling" in the mud. Object - one on one from each team, attack each other with pillowed object until one is knocked off the platform and into the mud.

This picture of Rupert shows the II to the right, so this is the immunity challenge.
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

Jeff: Go! [start of challenge]

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Here's Rob versus Colby, and from the quick video we saw at the end of last night's show, Rob goes slipping, sliding and flying off the platform into the mud.

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James: Whip her ass!

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Here's a picture of Randy before being pummelled.
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Here's a victorious James.

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Courtney: I told you you're on the wrong team, James.
Notice that Courtney and Sandra have been selected to sit out this challenge - to make up for the Heroes missing Sugar and Stephenie.
Also notice that the villains, left to right shown are - Courtney, Sandra, Coach, Tyson, Russell seated with Rob behind bench, and Jerri, Parvati and Danielle sitting on the bench. Randy is missing from the picture when Courtney makes her statement, so he must have been up against James.


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Here's a pic with Randy to the left and James to the right. Before or after the pummelling, I don't know.

This next part seems to have been taken at night after the TC where Stephenie got the boot.

Jeff: A hero spirals out of control.

Tom: [camera confessional] James has got to bring down the nasty, brutish bullying.

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James: I just want to win, ya'll.

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Colby: It's ugly, the situation.

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Tom: You could have been gentler.

Per TDT, Randy is our boot of the week, so that means that the Heroes finally win an IC.

Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Sucks:

Pamy's favorite part - the TC voting confessionals:

Rupert (votes Stephenie): Maybe you should have tried a little harder the first few days to talk to everybody instead of just a few. You never came to me until we were ready to go to Tribal Council the first time. I'm sorry.

Cirie (votes Stephenie): I wanted to play this game with you but your core members of your alliance didn't give me a shot until they felt threatened and that doesn't make me feel secure. Sorry.

Tom (votes Amanda): Amanda, I know its a throw away vote. We don't have the numbers but promised Stephenie I wasn't writing her name down. Sticking with the original plan, JT said we're writing your name down, I know he's not. I'm bringing a little heat on me at camp, I know, but so be it.

Amanda (votes Stephenie): Steph, I'm voting for you because you want me out so I want you out.

James (votes Stephenie): ::shrugs::

Candice (votes Stephenie): Stephenie, I'm voting for you tonight because we just didn't have the numbers to go the other way and we didn't have time to work it out. I'm sorry. I think you're a great girl. I wish you the best of luck.

JT (votes Stephenie): Sorry Stephenie, but I got to do what's best for me. You're a great competitor, I hate to see you leave.

Stephenie (votes Amanda): It's the plan, you're the weakest.

Colby (votes Amanda): Nothing personal against you, I simply think you're the weakest member of the tribe. Trying to keep the tribe strong. Best of luck to you.

Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Jeff's Blog for Episode 2:

BOSTON ROB ALMOST GOES HOME
Boston Rob is a stud. The dude can make fire without flint, he can single-handedly win a challenge for his tribe, he is always good for a memorable quip (“Again I’m on the buffoon tribe”) and… he married Amber. Not bad. But even Boston Rob cannot stomach the Samoa flu.
Turns out that’s all that was wrong with Rob, a bout of the local Samoan flu. But hear me when I say this was no ordinary flu. During the season it took out a lot of our crew members and a lot of the locals on the island. It hits the body very hard and according to our doctors, one of the worst parts was the accompanying headache which felt like a nail being repeatedly pounded into the back of your head.


INSIGHT: When the doctors and I first got to Rob at camp, he was flat out on his side. Flat out. He was shaking uncontrollably and he was slobbering from the mouth. I knew it was bad because Rob is not the kind of guy who ever complains about physical pain. He’ll complain about damn near everything else, but he’s pretty self-contained when it comes to pain. He was out of it. Before the docs diagnosed it as merely the flu, I thought he was going to have to be evacuated. I doubt Rob has any idea how bad it really was, I don’t think he remembers much of what happened.
After the doctors had run their tests and determined that he was okay to continue, he and I sat and talked for quite a while. He just needed time to get strong enough so that he could stand up and walk back over to the rest of the tribe. It was a pretty funny, and at times emotional, exchange. He kept repeating that he didn’t want to “let anybody down” because he loved the game so much. But as his mind cleared up a bit, those noble feelings were replaced by a more familiar Boston Rob refrain: “Screw it. I’m gonna win this damn game.”
I half expected him to stand up, staggering to maintain balance and yell to no one in particular: “Adrienne! Adrienne!

A DREAM ALLIANCE
Russell is obviously annoyed with Rob being the one in charge, but if Rob and Russell could get rid of their egos and team up they could run this game to the end. Russell offers Rob the energy to play a very aggressive game and Rob offers Russell the wisdom of when to simmer down. If it happens, watch out.


BETTER KEEP AN EYE ON CIRIE
Cirie is amazing. I am so impressed by how good a player she has become, so subtle with her maneuvering of people. Like her or not, I’d put Cirie in the top twenty players of all time. She will definitely have her hands full this season because she is playing against a lot of very good players but she is quite clever and if they let her last for long she will be in an alliance that will be too tight to break.


NOW TO THE BIG NEWS…
The heroes are clearly starting to fall apart. I still do not understand the rationale of players who come into this game, some of them for the third time, and continue to make selfish decisions, based solely on alliances, in only the SECOND WEEK OF THE GAME!
Voting out Stephenie? Really? Even on Ambien that makes no sense. The Sugar vote made sense. This vote… no sense. Obviously, I’m not out there playing, so it’s easy for me to sit back and judge. But Stephenie? This vote really surprised me and it was all based on alliances. Week-two alliances.


FUTURE PLAYERS, HEAR ME WHEN I SAY THIS: Voting out great players in the second week is idiotic. It almost always works against you. Look at the history of Survivor. When the game starts it is a “team” game. The more you win as a team the longer you are guaranteed to stay in the game. The more you lose, the more you go to tribal council and the more likely you are to be voted out.
This very simple strategic idea has been lost over the years. It used to be a no-brainer to keep your tribe strong, but the game has changed. It makes no difference to me how people play, but if the heroes continue to lose keep that idea in mind.
Maybe next year we’ll get a group of people who play a little more “old-school” Survivor and then we can see if my comments hold any water.
There are certainly many examples of winners who formed alliances on day two that took them to the end. Of course there are, because most everybody is forming those kinds of alliances so obviously it will work out for one player. But for everybody else, it will fail. It is not the smartest way to play this game. You need to be able to balance your alliance while keeping the tribe strong.
And while we’re on the topic, “strong” doesn’t just mean in challenges. Strong means work ethic, attitude, ability to provide food or build shelter, as well as leadership abilities and a whole host of other qualities.


WHICH LEADS ME TO…
I’m going to say something that will probably be very unpopular but if I were on the Heroes tribe I would have to seriously consider getting rid of James. I know he’s the strongest guy to ever play this game, but his attitude is just not there and that is more damaging long term than his biceps are helpful short term.
He ran around camp telling everybody that Stephenie was a loser and she should be voted out. He caused as much disharmony with his running around as Stephenie did by talking during the challenge. But it was his outburst at tribal council that was most unnerving.
But here’s the issue…
Players get so locked into their vote that they rarely change their mind at tribal council.


NOTE # 2 TO ALL FUTURE PLAYERS: If you are at tribal and something is going south – have the guts to change your mind and call an audible. Make a stand. To get a shot at the million dollars you have to make it to the end and to get to the end you have to avoid tribal council and to avoid tribal council you have to win.


STEPHENIE AND BEYOND
The hero tribe will need some time to recover from tonight’s vote and not simply because they lost a very strong player in Stephenie. The real damage came at the hands of James. His comments must have left a bad taste in the mouth of every other member on the Hero tribe.
The hero tribe now needs to heal and come back together as a tribe. It’s only day six. The problem is, healing takes time and Survivor waits for nothing and no one.
Some of the best one-liners of the season are in next week’s episode. Enjoy.

Tntitanfan
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Wondering who "that girl" is -

I am sure Pamy and I think it is Parvati, but is it really?

Pamy
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL TNT! I thought same thing

Ginger, thanks so much!! I was especially looking forward to this week's because I wanted to see what made Cirie and Candace choose the side the chose.

I love me some BRob!

Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I think "that girl" is a virus might be pointing at Cirie. Cirie isn't fast on anything running or swimming, but she is somewhat strong on physical "one on one" against the girls......but mostly it is her mental game. J.T. said in his bio that one of the first ones he would be after was Cirie, so maybe this is connected to that somehow.

Regardless, at this point, if it is Cirie, it is misdirection cause the Heroes win the IC this time and don't have to go to TC.

Pamy
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I am guessing Randy says the title and 'the girl' will be whoever is rooting for him to go.

or maybe it's James and he is still talkin about Steph

Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Some interesting stuff I cut and pasted from the RNO (REality New Online) interview with Stephenie:

Stephenie: Tom and I have always been close since our first season. For me to be on his tribe this time and with a guy who is so genuine and so honest and such a gentleman, it was a no-brainer. It was kind of apparent that James and Amanda were tied together. J.T. was all over the place – though we found out later that he had alliances going in.
I just loved Colby and was a fan of his so I was immediately drawn to him. It was a no-brainer to join with Colby.


Colby got in his (James) face on the beach – they almost got in a fist fight. Tom got in his face. They didn’t show the half of it.

I was a fan of James – until I met him. I was a fan of Rupert – until I met him.

it still remained that we had to break up that alliance, so it has to be Amanda. I heard James was almost threatening Candice [to not vote out Amanda].

Cirie was targeted very early on from everybody. She was supposed to be the first to go, it’s just that Sugar kind of annoyed people. I think Sugar’s a sweetheart – she didn’t bother me one bit. You should keep people like that around, it’s good energy for the tribe.

Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever:
More transcript....there were more pics, but basically it's still just showing the one challenge which we know is the IC and the Heroes win.

Transcript:

Announcer: The Survivor Villains are turning on each other.

Rob [camera confessional]: I don't trust Russell at all.

Coach [camera confessional]: Russell is walking on very thin ice.

Russell [camera confessional]: They want to play rough? I can play rough. I gotta get rid of my rivals. Nobody knows who they messin' with around here.

Parvati [camera confessional]: Jerri's annoying. She's just a bitter old cougar.

Jerri [camera confessional]: I just want to punch her in the face.

Announcer: And the Heroes better get it together.

James [camera confessional]: I just want to win.

Announcer: Because this filthy challenge is gonna get dirty.

Coach: [Roars]
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Alaginger
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Friday, February 19, 2010 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
TDT has an interesting little story to tell over at the TDT site about Randy's boot. I'll put it here, and you can make of it what you like (LOL).

Regarding Randy being the first to be booted from the Villains Tribe:
As for supporting details, survivrcuz states that "Randys doom came at the hands of russell who hid the machete and blamed it on randy. Randy being sarcastic made it worse by exagerrating the story, without the machete the villians will be miserable for days! Randy goes home first!!!!!!" Although missyae illuminatingly argues "The story about Randy leaving over a machette is not quite right." What's not right is not, of course, clear.

Alaginger
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This week's CBS Misdirection Clues:

ONE TOUGH VILLAIN HAS THE WHOLE TRIBE ON EDGE AS EVERYONE SETS THEIR SIGHTS ON A VERY DANGEROUS ALLIANCE, ON "SURVIVOR: HEROES VS. VILLAINS," THURSDAY, FEB. 25
"That Girl is Like a Virus" - One of the most powerful women in the game targets a worthy adversary and gets aggressive in her efforts to oust an immediate threat, on SURVIVOR: HEROES VS. VILLAINS, Thursday, Feb. 25 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Pamy
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
hmmmm that is interesting about the machette. now I am thinking Russ says the title and he is talkin about Cirie

Rvon
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
I have a question. . . .did anyone notice the difference in Cirie's top during the TC on Thursday night? My sister brought this to my attention and I re-watched the entire episode. It looks like she might be correct -- and I say might be very cautiously because I'm not really sure myself.

During TC Cirie is wearing a green print top and her hair is down. When she goes up to vote it looks like she is wearing a different green print top and her hair is up. Yet when Jeff talks to them just before he dismisses them, Cirie is shown wearing her hair down again and wearing the original top. What do you make of it?

Alaginger
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hey Rvon......

I went over to CBS and found the video clip that just has the TC voting in it. Cirie's top looks the same to me before voting, at voting, and after. It is multicolored, so I would imagine that if the camera zooms in on one spot, it might look solid......but it looked like different shades of cream and green to me.

At the beginning her hair is down. At the voting booth it looks up, but when she turns around, there appears to be a band around a small pony-tail. I would imagine that since they are at these things a long time.......much longer than we actually get to see from all I have read, that she may have pulled the band off and/or put the band on at any given time. It did look more orderly pulled back with the band. And, at the end it appeared to me to still be with the band.

Here's the link to just the TC voting video for anybody that wants to look. It doesn't show the part where they are dismissed, so I don't know if it was back down then or now. Actually, I've always wondered if they are there as long as they say they are, if they don't take a break at some point.........????

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=tOaJxj7bDi8Dz0jFtFbmGCNJbPrXk68k&vs=homepage&play=true

Lexie_girl
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Pamy, Russ and Cirie aren't on the same team. How could she target him?

Pamy
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
in her thoughts? LOL apparently my cold meds arent all the way outta me! good catch there Lexie! and thanks for not bolding your post! heee

Juju2bigdog
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Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 11:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I am currently staying in Northern California, just north of San Francisco,, and I noticed today that quite a few wmen are wearing the same hairstyle as the women on Survivor (or vice versa), with that tight band a couple inches back from the hairline and then sort of poufed up behind it and in a ponytail. Huh!

Must be the current fashion,, and I am just out of it, eh? And I apologize for posting this in the spoiler thread, must be off to bed soon and plead senility.

Alaginger
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Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Still no pictures of the Episode 3 RC, but TDT makes a good case that there is one, and that it's not a combo with the IC.

Villains tribe arrives for a challenge at the beach.
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Notice, all 10 members are there, so this is before a Randy boot in Episode 3.

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Amanda and Candice return to camp looking dejected. Since we know the Heroes are the winners of the IC, plus they aren't muddy, this should be returning as losers of the RC.

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Plus, James returning to Heroes camp .... sees shoe .... kicks shoe.

TDT also doesn't think this is the "Slip and Slide" challenge at this point because he says it appears Candice is not wearing a bathing suit in her return picture.

Rvon
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Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
Alaginger, thanks for the clarification regarding Cirie's top.

Seamonkey
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Sunday, February 21, 2010 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Ginger, re the first post in this archive of this thread.. one picture says Randy (muddy) is in the pic with James.. and it sure could be, but if that is true, Randy muddy is a twin of Russell muddy. I would have said that was Russell.

Alaginger
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Monday, February 22, 2010 - 5:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Sea......Randy is all the way over on the far left of the pic with his face muddied, and he is still smiling. So, whatever James does to him during the challenge, Randy doesn't seem to be bothered by it. Yes, Russell is more prominent in the picture, so I should have pointed out that Randy was almost out of the pic.

Alaginger
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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Over at Survivor Blows, the SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up, this week by Tribephyl, and it pretty much agrees with what we have already been told by TDT:

RC: don't know what it is, but the Heroes lose
IC: Mud-pillow fight - Heroes win
Bootee: Randy

Alaginger
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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
UPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE!

TDT now says that it appears the one sumo-wrestling challenge in Episode 3 is a combine RC/IC.

The picture above of the villains in line at the beach has been identified from the Episode 1 IC, and the pictures of Candance and Amanda, plus the one of James, TDT believes is shots of them dejected and on their way to the Episode 3 IC, not returning from it.

If all goes as speculated, they should be jubilant if they were returning from it.

So........it will be interesting to see if the SOTS at Survivor Blows will change now that TDT has made an Update.

RC/IC - Challenge Combo - Heroes win
Bootee: Randy

Juju2bigdog
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Wednesday, February 24, 2010 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Good job, Ginger!!!