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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
One castaway begins to suspect that the company she has been keeping may have put her chances of winning the game in serious jeopardy and a devious plan is hatched on Exile Island giving rise to what could prove to be a devastatingly powerful alliance
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I have a hunch this might be Erinn since she was hanging around Candace, and now Candace is toast. Powerful alliance is at Timbira, I do believe.

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 5:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Nevermind.........changed my mind. That clue above sure seems to point to Taj, not Erinn.
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Thanks again to Survivor Fever for the pics:
Transcript:


Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...the tribes are hit hard.

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<tribes competing in blindfold challenge>
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Jeff: And Taj makes a secret alliance.

Taj: We would have a four-way alliance that nobody knows about...
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Male: That nobody knows about...

Taj: Exactly.

Taj <in confessional>: They won't even know what's coming. *wicked laugh*

Brendan and Taj go back to Exile Island?

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Dani .... over at Survivor Skills has pointed out that Brendan told Taj, while they were at Exile Island, that their goal is to be sent back to Exile together so that they can each get the 2nd clue and both know where to search at their respective campsites for the Hidden II. Taj was okay with that.....and they high-fived!

I went over to CBS and fast-forwarded in the video to that spot, and that does happen...but in the day-light. In this next episode it shows Taj back at Exile Island, high-fiving with somebody at night, and my money is that it is Brendan again and they are forming and alliance.

Now then....who is in that alliance of 4 that Brendan is including her in. I think Coach and Debra......but that is strictly speculation on my part.

Pamy
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
alliance will only work if they don't get voted off before the merge

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
That's true, but if Taj mutinies over to Timbira.......???
That's an option in this season.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Alaginger spoke every thought of mine, it's scary!

It should be easy for B & T to manipulate each others' exile again. Just remind their prospective tribe that they need to keep the possibility of hii on one castaway. Tell mates you'd work on gaining the others' trust and blah blah.

Of course they each face the possibilities of doubts from their own tribe. But Brendan might come clean w/ Deb & Coach and Taj is in deep doo doo in her minds anyways. ~~ If I were her, I'd tell them how great it'd be to be in the final TC w/her! She could even say "I'm not here for the money, I don't need the money anyway." for now. ...

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Reality News Online interview with Candace highlights:

RNO: You heard Coach has been fired from his job as a coach?
Candace: I’m not allowed to comment on that. I can only comment on what I experienced. And from what I experienced, he is a bona fide pervert! I would not have him coaching my son or daughter in anything, especially anything that includes physical contact. He’s a real douche.

When Candace was asked if she thought she was going to get the boot:
The reality is I wanted it to be Debbie. I honestly felt Debbie was the weakest. I was like, seriously, let’s keep Sierra and dump Debbie. Everybody looked at me like I was the spawn of Satan because (in a sing-songy voice), “Debbie’s so nice.” Anyone who talks this much and tries this hard cannot be real. You see her at Tribal Council saying, “I know these people. I trust these people.” Wake up! It’s been six days! Are your relationships that superficial?! She was so scatterbrained – she wouldn’t have been able to run from one end to the other in that basketball challenge. She’s so discombobulated, I don’t trust her in a mental challenge. She was all over the place.

RNO: You mentioned some “super-manipulative” players. Who were they?
Candace: Coach is at the top of the list. He’s a misogynist, he’s delusional. And he’s weak physically. I’m honestly stronger than him. I don’t know what’s up with him if he had a spinal injury before coming on the show or he has early bone determination, but I can bench press more than him. In the first challenge, I picked up two boards and ran across the hills with them; he could barely pick up a board.
Erinn – Wow! She’s conniving. It’s very obvious – you meet her and you just know she’s conniving.
Debbie is super conniving. Miss kumbaya, “Candace is trash-talking you.” Good strategy, kissing coach’s butt. That went over well. I don’t know how your husband felt about it.
I could say Sierra is conniving but that would give her too much credit mentally. I don’t think she has the capacity. I would like to know why she called me a snake in the grass when she voted me out. I told you I wanted you to stay and you talked about voting me out. Who is the snake in the grass?

RNO: Why did you bring up Coach as a target and then decide not to follow through with it?
Candace: Because I thought people on my tribe were so brainwashed by him. I felt like I was in the twilight zone. I was like, “Is he really having this effect on you?” I was the only one being protected by the evil rays. I could take him down with one arm. It was like a cult, like the whole “I’m your coach” thing – it worked with everybody! But with some people, it was horrifying. Debbie running around, “Hi, Coach.” What do you need me to do, Coach?” “Want me to wash your boxers, Coach?” This is sick! I knew there was no chance for me to get that douche out of there early on. You people are bananas! I don’t know what I could have done to get rid of him.

RNO: Now that you’ve seen discussions of why you were voted out, what do you think of the reasons the others had for voting you out?
Candace: It was coach who wanted me out of there the most…. He saw that his whole manipulating tactics didn’t affect me. I saw right through … He couldn’t stand me. There were times when he would order Jerry to chop wood and I would say, “Coach, how about you chop some wood?” He looked like he wanted to cut my head off with a machete.

RNO: What was the most eye-opening thing you saw on TV that you didn’t know about while you were there?
Candace: Probably Debbie running to go tell me on me like one of her little fifth graders at her school. I was like, wow, is that how the campaign started? Good to know. Wow. That was the most eye-opening thing. “I like to stay away from negativity,” that’s why I run and tell on people. She talked so much crap about Erinn.

Roxip
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Bitter some? Both of the people who have been voted off so far have been some of the worst, nastiest post-exit interviews I have seen. Unnecessary at this point.

Goddessatlaw
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Wow, she is bitter. And a bit free-wheeling with her negative commentary. I wasn't glad to see her go last night, but I am now.

Ladytex
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bitter, but right ... Coach went into this in his interviews talking about how he was so able to manipulate people and it sounds as if he was correct ...

Juju2bigdog
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I also think she was right. Coach does have that self-love cult thing going. He IS physically weak when she should not be. Candace DID carry two boards when he struggled with one. Coach IS eaten up with that attitude that sometimes brings down the macho male players when they get to thinking they alone are in charge of who gets voted off. Candace was trying to nip that in the bud, and it backfired on her. The cult of Coach won.

Alaginger
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Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Tocantins': episode 2
Feb 20, 2009, 08:05 AM | by Jeff Probst

Categories: 'Survivor', Reality TV, Television, Things That Are Awesome!

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First things first. Did you see our ratings? We went up from last year's premiere! That doesn't happen. Television ratings are crumbling all around us as the networks scramble to figure out how to combat DVR's, kids watching on computers, and iPhones and the like. So when something like this happens to a show in its 18th season, it's big news! And it's all because of you — our loyal viewers. So on behalf of the entire crew and CBS, I say thank you for your amazing support.

Okay, on to the episode. I gotta mention it. Another blindside. We're 2 for 2 and I love it. Candace never saw it coming. I hated losing Candace. She was bound to provide lots of spark around camp. But Candace, you picked a fight with the wrong guy....

You picked on Coach! Nobody picks on Coach. He's a symphony conductor for crying out loud. He's a maestro! You don't mess with maestros! They're known for their Scorpio-like ''get even'' mentality. You stung him and he stung you back. Torch snuff. Bye-bye. Just like that, Candace is out.

I am imagining Candace reading this right now and she is either...smiling and laughing along with me or...she is calling lovely Corinne from last season and asking her for the address of my house and instructions on how to light a Molotov cocktail. Ah, what the heck, go for it. I'm insured.

I love it when the Survivors eat grubs. It takes me back to Season 1 when we had a challenge in which they had to race to eat grubs and Gervase couldn't get his down. Ah yes, season 1. The good ole days. Back when I wore those silly safari clothes and said really corny things like ''fire represents life.'' Thank goodness those days are gone. Boy, was I a loser. I'm so much cooler now. Whew.

I have a question – do you think that Taj revealed she was the wife of Eddie George because she believes that honesty is the best policy? Or do you think she absolutely loves telling people ''I'm married to Eddie George, Heisman trophy winner at Ohio State and former NFL football star!'' I'm guessing the latter. But to be honest, I'd brag, too, if I was married to Eddie George. Heck, I'd pull a Heidi Klum and tattoo Eddie's name on my forearm. Yes, Heidi has a tattoo of her husband's name, ''Seal,'' on her forearm. That beautiful supermodel forearm with a huge tat of the word ''Seal.'' It's there. I know. I saw it. Yep. I've seen Heidi's naked forearm. Lots of times, in fact.

The problem with Taj's revelation is that you give people a reason to vote you out. Taj just shouted at the top of her lungs – ''I don't need the money! I'm already rich!!!'' That could be costly.

How great was that challenge? It was physical, it was in the water (which means bikini's), and...it was pouring rain! I mean it was dumping! Here's a fact I've never admitted before. I secretly pray for rain every time we do a challenge. I love it when it rains. Not just because it turns me on a little bit, but also because it adds so much to the look and play of a Survivor challenge. It amps up the drama, it makes the shots look that much ''cooler,'' and like I said, I just like being wet. Anytime it's raining, just know that I'm happy...and yes, a bit turned on. Is that wrong? Or weird? I recently had to take a required sexual harassment course and I'm pretty sure merely writing that last sentence constitutes sexual harassment on some level. Sorry if I've offended.

A lot of people ask me, ''Why do you only do one challenge in the early episodes?'' The reason is because we want to have more time in the show for you to get to know the personalities of our Survivors. We figure in episodes 1 and 2 we can build one big challenge, make it epic, and that will allow us a few more minutes in the show to focus on the Survivors. Question: Do you like that or would you prefer 2 challenges in every single episode?

Speaking of getting to know the Survivors — my two favorite people this week are:

From Timbira — Sierra. She's a fighter and I like that. Wouldn't that be weird if Sierra ended up married to a Survivor producer? How random would that be?

From Jalapao — J.T. He's a great leader and he's playing humble. But I don't buy it for a second. J.T. is a bona fide threat in this game.

It's only episode 2 and trust is already playing a big part in the game. It's what makes this game so difficult to play but so fun to watch...ultimately you have to trust someone in order to survive, but conversely you really can't trust anyone if you want to survive! So what do you do? You have to trust people who are untrustworthy, and then you have to cut them loose before they cut you loose. It's like learning Russian. Very complicated.

One of my favorite moments of the episode was the ''fire pit'' cover-up. It was a great lie. Quick thinking. I absolutely love those kinds of moments. The key to it all was Debbie. All you need is one person to validate your lie and you're set, and let's face it, you can't get better than a middle school principal to endorse your lie! Debbie bought it hook, line, and sinker, and she was no doubt watching tonight's episode and laughing herself silly. Debbie has a pretty good sense of humor.

I would love to know why Brendan chose Taj. I would have never guessed that and never dreamed he would share the Exile information with her. But it was an interesting move and now we have the potential for an alliance that could wreak havoc later in the game.

The other relationship I am starting to enjoy is that of J.T. and Stephen. They couldn't be more opposite and yet they seem to be clicking fairly well.

Okay, time for me to go to bed.

Hang in there with me on these blogs. It's been a very busy past few weeks for me, and so I haven't had as much time for these blogs as I'd like. But I'm committed to posting something every week, so I just ask for a bit of understanding if they're not always everything you want them to be!!!

Talk next week!

Alaginger
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Tribal Council Voting --- Candace Had To Go!

Tribal Council Voting

Find out what each member of the Timbira Tribe had to say as they cast their votes

Tyson ("Candice"): I voted for you. Nothing personal, we always got along well, but for the strength of the tribe and the morale, this is what we decided.

Candace (Sierra): I really tried hard to keep you here, but you were too defensive and cocky with me. But you're a cool girl.

Brendan (Candace): It's about unity.

Debra ("Candice"): Candice, you talk too much about each tribe member every day. It was somebody different every single day that you were gunning for. It got you in the end. Good luck.

Jerry ("Candance"): Candace, we love you, good luck, but this is what the team wanted so I had to go along with them.

Erinn (Candace): I like you but I don't trust you.

"Coach" (Candace): I've got a French girl on my team that says, "If you play with Coach Wade, you lose." You shouldn't have tried to go head-to-head with me, babe. You're gonna go out on the bottom. Social compatbility is gonna make our tribe better. No more poison apple. Sorry.

Sierra ("Candice"): You played a great physical game but nobody wants a snake in the grass.

Seamonkey
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Candace may be correct about some things, but she's gone and they are still there and she's not just bitter but flinging around epithets with wild abandon. Just because he won people over when you didn't doesn't make him a pervert. She snorts that Debbie thought she knew people, yet she "instantly" knew a couple of the women were conniving.. just knew. Right..

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Good Point, Sea!!!

Alaginger
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
TDT points out that there are two distinct challenge for Episode 3.....because Spencer is wearing a t-shirt in one challenge and a tank top in the other.

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Blindfold - Spencer in brownish t-shirt

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Puzzle - Spencer is kinda underneath the puzzle
cube and you can see a brownish tank top.

Now then, which challenge is RC and which is IC is questionable. Right now, since the blindfold with the grains falling into the buckets is shown first in the preview, TDT is going with the assumption that it is the RC and that the puzzle challenge is the IC.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oooops....this is the picture I meant to bring over where you can see Spencer's brownish tank top.
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Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Wow, just heard an insider vid at Dalton's. (Jeff's bud at CW.com they have links to each others' blogs.)

Tyson doesn't think so much of that Coach either! (Seems Tyson was asked about who the weakest link was during that challenge.) "Not what he make himself to be." Even though he wanted a full contact challenge. ....
But Tyson did say he's just going to keep his mouth shut until he's certain he can dominate.

Well, he better not tell any one what he's thinking about Coach. It'll get back to him, and with all the other mates having the same attitude Ty does, every one will just "go with the flow" and vote Tyson off!

Alaginger
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I picked this up out of another Candace interview.
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Brendan never said during Candace’s stay that he was a multi-millionaire, but she says they figured it out. “Ya, I knew his little granola ass was a millionaire. He had mentioned he started a granola company. Of course, Erinn the stalker, who was like all about who everybody was and what they did for a living because apparently that was so relevant to her — she figured it out.”

“I have the most respect for Tyson. Physically and mentally, he’s exceptional. He gave it 110 percent nonstop when I was there. Seriously, Tyson is a freak of nature when it comes to his physical ability. I’m an athlete and I respect that. Brendan’s a work horse for sure — Brendan and Tyson are the two top competitors physically on our team.”

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
From the Survivor: Insider
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Spencer Cuts His Thumb

When Spencer injures himself after the challenge, Sandy comes to the rescue

(Spencer repeatedly cries "Ow" as Sandy goes to help him)

Sandy: It's OK. He's alright. I knew it when he said ow ow ow, my daughter had a butcher...just push it together and wrap it. Let me go get a...(goes to get something to wrap it with)

Spencer: I'll be fine. I know. I need something to...that was a raw fish knife too.

Taj: Are you OK brother?

Spencer: Yeah. (She asks if he's sure) I'm just pissed off at myself. (Taj gasps at the state of his thumb) No, it's not that bad, it's from all the blood and stuff. It's not that bad. It looks a lot worse. (Taj and Sandy ask if he's OK) I'm fine. I'm just concerned because I don't want it to get infected. That was a knife we'd cut the fish head off with and hadn't washed.

Sandy: It'll be alright. We'll get it clean with this water.

(a male and female medic arrive; Spencer tells them what happened and they begin cleaning and treating the wound)

Sandy: They wanted Mama K (?) to check on the baby. You OK?

Spencer: It looks great. They're cleaning me up. Thanks Mama K.

Sandy: You're welcome, hon.

Alaginger
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Something else of interest from the Insider:
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Animal Tracks at Exile

Brendan finds large animal tracks on Exile Island, which makes him question if it is truly worth returning

"This morning, we took a walk to go look for some more wood for the morning, and found two tracks. One track was the size of my palm, which has to be an enormous animal with big claws, and the other track was the size of a German Shepard or something like that. But two big paw prints within 25 yards, 50 yards of where we were sleeping last night."

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"The tracks looked brand new. The tracks looked more fresh than our footprints did. They weren't touched at all. My guess is they were from that night. I guess they were walking around at the same time we were sleeping. What's even scarier is it wasn't like they were on the same side of the river. I guess puma or something like that, something big and hopefully very friendly."

(cut)

"As for coming back out here again, especially with those cats around and knowing there's no idol, I probably wouldn't want to come back her again unless an idol appears. I'd be cool with not coming back to Exile. (laughs)"

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

Announcer: Will one tribe make a crucial comeback?

Jerry: <yelling during cube challenge> It's gonna fall!

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Looking at these 2 pictures, it appears to me that the cubes have to be lined up to spell the name of their individual tribe at least on more than one side.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

Announcer: Will one tribe make a comeback?

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Erinn <in confessional>: I feel like I'm kind of fighting for my life.

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Announcer: And will one partnership last?
appears to be Coach and Tyson, to me.

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Tyson <in confessional>: I love seeing people cry when you crush their dreams.

Chy
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Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
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I say they're going to sent Sierra home.
Erinn's :fighting for my life" and Tyson's partnership trouble may both be the misdirecting.

It looks like Timbira lost again and a "weak: female has to be sacrificed again..... Tyson & Ben had both wanted to rid Sierra before. Jerry won't rock the boat right now. Brendan won;t want to stick his neck out either.

Until the next promo clip, these are my speculations.

Alaginger
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Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yep......with the confessionals here being from Timbira, it looks like Timbira loses the challenge since the camera people usually set up at the loser's tribe to get soundbites.

But....TDT is speculating that Timbira wins and Jalapao loses right now, since there are more people on the speculated boot list over there.

It's too early to tell, I guess.....Sunday brings on more pics, usually.......

I put a little blurp about boot speculation in the overall thread, since this thread refers to Episode 3 only.