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Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I was posting about Ben on his thread in the cast, but since you all are talking about it here ...

Benjamin Wade, who’s known as Coach on Survivor Tocantins, has been fired as the head women’s soccer coach at the Missouri university where he worked because administrators say he disappeared to be on the show. In Brazil, he told me that his team thought he was leaving to have cancer tests for two months.
Southwest Baptist University’s athletic director, Brent Good, told the News-Leader that Ben “said he was going to be gone for a week. And the week went beyond that, which went beyond that, which went beyond that. … Coach Wade’s a good coach. I think the choice he made to do what he did was not done in the right way. With that, there’s a consequence with it. Unfortunately, that consequence is that his contract is not renewed, and he’s no longer here.”
<<< This part we know.

Benjamin told the paper, “The administration felt like ‘Survivor’ was me going to Hollywood. I loved my time at SBU. Obviously, now I’m off to pursue adventures in Hollywood. … This has opened up a whole new world to me. I loved being myself on camera. There’s going to be a lot of interest from the show in who I was and what I did. I’m definitely excited about that.”

In a follow-up story, Ben told the News-Leader’s Matt Baker that how he came across on the show had nothing to do with his firing. “I’m going to be made out to be a hero. It was just the timing of me going out there and all that, not the way I was perceived.”
<<<<Chy:This is the part that bothers me >>>> During our conversation in Brazil, Ben told me that he had not revealed where he was going. Instead,he lied his soccer team by telling them he was getting extensive tests for cancer—tests that would last two months. “I haven’t let the cat out of the bag. And I could and maybe should with my girls who think that I’m in a hospital somewhere dying, essentially,” he said. “I had some tests done on what they thought was a brain tumor, last year, but it wasn’t, but I did, so I told them I was going back in for testing. I said I’m going to have a lot of testing and evaluations; that was when I flew out there the first time, to L.A. So this time I said I’ve got to go back out, get some testing done, and be away for two months.”
Ben also told me that the “team is in shambles right now” because he left them without his presence. He also said, “I am phenomenal at manipulating people. … I manipulate my assistant coaches. My highest-paid assistant coach right now is getting $5,000 a year. I have a staff of six. It’s the biggest coaching staff in the NCAA. Nobody has six coaches. I have these girls come and pay $20,000 a year to come and play for my school and not give them a dime of scholarship, there’s others that I do. I’m awesome at manipulating.”

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Wonder who gave him the idea to go to Hollywood?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
He is a multi-talented person, but I am just not feeling the love!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I told you he gets my respect for getting a Master degree in Music after a Business degree. I know how hard it is for a music major to re-audition back in any Grad. program years after the BA. Performing, directing, composing, ... he's a nice package there. But I can't be in his camp too long if this goes on. ....

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Well, duh!!! The lightbulb just came on! Not being able to tell your employer why you disappeared is exactly why they cast so many aspiring actors for the show. They don't have to tell an employer where they are going. They are already available.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
There's no reason to feel the love for him TNT. He obviously feels the love for himself enough to compensate for those of us who aren't feeling it!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Here's what Jeff Probst said about Coach:

''And now here's something we think you'll really enjoy!'' (Can anyone name that cartoon character?) We have something very special for you fans this season, it's a new Survivor philosophy, you might even call it a religion of sorts. IT goes by the name Coach. Stay open to IT. Stay open to Coach. Beautiful things may emerge if you just open your arms and accept what Coach can offer you. Salvation? I doubt it. Great laughs? Absolutely. Coach is a star. He was meant to be on Survivor. I only wish we could clone him. I'm already pushing CBS to do another All-Star season just so we can have him back. Plus, my friend Serena already likes Coach, so there's that.

Alaginger was kind enough to post Jeff's blog for us in This Thread

While I'm not feelin' the love for him at the moment, I am looking forward to seeing how his game plays out.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
He said he was made out to be a hero on Survivor. Hero is not a word most people use lightly. Maybe something happens out there where he does something really heroic, like saving someone's life.

He is obviously very full of himself, but then aren't a lot of the people who appear on these shows?

I missed the first episode and haven't had time to go back and watch it, so all I know about him is what I saw last night and what I have read on here.

But I will give him credit for getting rid of the person who tried to put a bulls eye on him.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
How many times have we seen a reality show contestant shoot themselves in the foot like Candace last night? There was a built in sacrifice. Sierra was done. She and everyone else was safe for another week.

But she lets personal feelings get in the way of good sense. What was she thinking? She stirs things up and then she doesn't even follow through. Did she really think after talking to so many people, that it was not going to get back to Coach? She was not subtle at all.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Allie, before I read the name Candace in your sentence I thought you meant Taj! HAha

Well, they both did.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Friday, February 20, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
If he thinks he is a candidate for all-stars, I don't see Coach leaving any time soon.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Slinky, Jeff also mentioned having Ben in the All-Star.
That will actually mean Ben did not win this season. Won't it?

????????
Are we allowed to talk about what we gathered from Jeff's blog and Insider's Clips in this General thread this season?
I put JP's blog in it's own thread so that posters won't have to go in to spoiler's thread to read them. We could always do that for the transcripts of Insiders' clips as well.
Stuff like Losers' interview, deleted scenes, ... They are not necessarily spoilers, but they give you something else other than what survived the editor's cut.

For instance, this week we saw how Tyson wasn't so ready to jump on the train to dump on Candace(when Deb told Coach Cand. was trash-talking him.), we saw Ty & Jer's exchange about how every one else was scrambling and "talking" before TC, we also heard Candy say Coach wasn't as strong physically(PP), We also saw Tyson ranting how Sierra needs to go to keep the team strong, ... But we didn't know how if came down to a 7-1 Candace out(We only saw 5 against C, actually.) After viewing Tyson's deleted scene, Now I know he really still think Sierra was very weak, PLUS, he also shared that Coach maybe wasn't the man he used to be(PP),! Another words, Tyson thought Coach wasn't that much for the challenge either! But he then said, until he's sure, he'll just keep his mouth shut, ...

See, I don't think those are spoilers, they just confirm how we might picked up in the episode. But I will respect the majority's wish here. Do we want to talk about our thoughts here regarding Blogs, interviews and clips, or should there be a sepARATE THREAD FOR THOSE?
oR SHOULD WE JUST HIDE IN THE SPOILER THREAD STILL?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Once it has aired (or been blogged by JP or Dalton), it is not a spoiler.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
That's my position as well. How about the Insider's clips at cbs' site?

BTW, I didn't mean to shout. My finger touched the caps lock w/o my knowledge! :-) I am rather clumsy with this kind of keyboards!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Maybe the Insider's clips can be put in the Jeff's Blog thread.

ETA: I see Ginger puts the Insider posts inside the spoiler thread. Why can't we leave them there?


Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Anything released officially by CBS is not a spoiler.

Winners have been on All-stars. Rob. Ethan. I forget the others.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I realize that Eyeores. That's why I don't understand why they can't be put in here or in the thread where Ginger already posts them, or in Jeff's Blog thread. I don't understand why we would need a separate thread for Insider Clips released by CBS since the episode has already aired.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Oh I was responding to the end of Chy's post, not yours. :-)

I think we have to go over this every season of BB and Survivor, because someone feels something is a spoiler that really isn't.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Lexie, alaginger has them all in the "Future spoiler threads". Many posters don't ever visit those threads.
Some said this General thread here shouldn't have anything spoilisn either.

Eeyor, don't ask me why, we had big discussions in the past seasons. The fact is, some posters consider those clips or JP's blogs spoilish as well! Not me! I see it the way you do.

This season I'm chasing a-l-l the spoilers & speculations myself. But in those seasons where I resisted spoilers, I won't even go to the future show Spoiling area. If JP's blog & Insider's Clips are all in Ginger's thread, we won't get to discuss them any where else but there. Posters will have to risk reading real spoilers<Not many this season, actually> and intense speculations in order to get to JP's blog & things. ... .... I'm thinking there could be a few posters like myself with this dilemma? - Not wanting to read spoilers but would like to discuss the Blogs & Clips?? I hope I'm explaining myself alright. It's getting late here.

These are the reasons why I think it's worthwhile to start a thread w/JP's blog. It'll be fine with me if the Insiders clips go in that thread too. We just have to ask the Mods to change the thread title.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 21, 2009 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
It is being discussed..

But what Alaginger wants to put in spoilers, she has that choice, because often she also interprets the blog or insider info, adding it to the actual spoiler/speculation she has gleaned from other sites and her own deductions, to continue her spoiling/speculation for the next episode.. so those items aren't necessarily not to be in spoilers.

I like the idea of the blog thread, simply because it makes it easier to access the blog info.

As for what can go in here, stay tuned, but I'd think info released BY CBS on official sites is fair game.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
ITA with you Sea. You said it much better than I could. That's what I was trying to say but everything gets all snarly and futzy between my brain and my fingers.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey is correct. Anything released by CBS is NOT a spoiler and may be discussed here. Spoilers are only that information that CBS is trying to keep under wraps.

ETA: For reference, and in order to make them easier to find, insider clips can have their own thread or be put in the EW blog thread. However, they MAY be discussed anywhere.


Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Just to clarify, I'm not trying to tell anyone where to put what.
I'm not trying to beat up an old horse either.

I just want to know for sure that, by saying certain things in some designated thread, I will not cause any ill feelings.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
We do seem to have to go over this every season. Our policy has never changed, however. So it does seem a bit redundant.

Spoiler Rules at TVCH

Now... back on topic please! No more posts about what is and isn't spoiling. Further questions can be Emailed to moderator@tvclubhouse.com :-)


Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
If I was a contestant on Survivor, Coach would be grating on my last nerve too. Candace's mistake was making a move too soon. Heck, as many have said, Coach isn't a physical threat so when/if he gets to individual challenges he prob. won't do very good. His arrogance is surely getting to others too - don't be the 1st one to bring it up - join in when it's being discussed in a group & get the guy out then.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, February 22, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Deb!
Candace should probably followed Jerry & Tyson's method. They told each other this is just the beginning. Jerry might just be biting his tongue and kept telling himself he doesn't want to be the leader -- what he said over and over before the show. -- And even though Ty wasn't so hot about booting Candy, he wasn't ready to "rock the boat" yet.

I can't wait to see what devious idea Tyson would come up with next!
Here's a cap from Epi.3's promo clip: