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Alaginger
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ONLY FIVE CASTAWAYS REMAIN IN THE QUEST FOR THE MILLION DOLLAR PRIZE AND TITLE OF SOLE SURVIVOR, ON "SURVIVOR TOCANTINS -- THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS," THURSDAY, MAY 14

"The Martyr Approach" - In the aftermath of Tribal Council, a shocking betrayal is revealed, leaving one castaway reeling. Meanwhile, another castaway takes a bizarre approach to Exile Island, which has a polarizing effect on the rest of the tribe, on SURVIVOR: TOCANTINS - THE BRAZILIAN HIGHLANDS, Thursday, May 14 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Alaginger
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Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Tocantins' (episode 12)

May 8, 2009, 12:39 AM | by Jeff Probst

Categories: 'Survivor', About Last Night, Reality TV, Television, Things That Are Awesome!

Jeffprobst2_l_21_2 Jeff: Debbie, how will tonight’s vote change this game?

Debbie: It will change how this tribe behaves, and I do think it will be a surprise:

Well, you were right about that. It was definitely a surprise...

...to Debbie. That was about the only thing Debbie had right last night.

Wow. Timbira, you guys blew it. Brendan, Tyson, Sierra and now Debbie. Incredible. You guys absolutely blew it.

Debbie: “Now’s the time to make a move. I’m playing the game big time.” What?! Debbie, you were about...oh three weeks behind! The game has been playing you and the rest of the Timbira group for weeks now.

You knew it was bad when Debbie went so far as to approach J.T. and Stephen and say “I want to be with you guys.” I guess Debbie just didn’t realize that she had nothing of value to offer J.T. and Stephen. Nothing. Debbie is right, you do have to make a big move to win the game, Debbie just made her big move way too late.

The decimation of the Timbira tribe is one of the reasons this game continues to work. No matter how tight your alliance, there is ALWAYS somebody who is on the bottom of the totem pole and that person is dangerous because they are looking to move up by moving over to the other side. When Erinn turned, so did the game.

At the merge, what odds would you have given that the Jalapao three would even be in the game let alone in a position to be in charge? Granted there are still many things that can happen but Stephen, J.T. and Taj still in this game was something nobody would have predicted.

Crazy. And the best part is that there is no strategy to prevent these things from happening. It’s impossible. If I am the 5th person in a 5 person alliance and by joining 3 others I can become the 4th person, I’ve just moved up one full spot. Of course, I’m gonna make that move. I have nothing to lose and absolutely everything to gain. The longer you’re in the game the better chance you have at winning. Pretty basic.

PERSONAL SHARING: The Survivor Auction: Okay, let me preface this by giving my usual “if you don’t love love, then skip onto the next section.” For those of you new to these blogs, you should know this about me – for all of my ranting and raving – most of that is just for fun. I love love more than anything else in the world. I am always fighting to do a loved one challenge because I think it is good television and I love the Survivors getting an infusion of the one thing that can inspire them after 30 some days in the middle of nowhere.

It was so fun to be a part of Taj’s reaction at the Auction. We always wonder how things like the message from home will go - will we get the drama we hope for? Will we get big reactions? Will there be tears? With Taj we got it all and then some!

INSIGHT: After the auction was over, there was a bit of a celebration amongst the crew. We had carefully laid out how to play the loved one portion of the auction. The line “see you back at camp” was just subtle enough so as to not completely call attention to itself, but it was strong enough that the longer it lingered the more clear it became: “See-you-back-at-camp. SEE-YOU-BACK-AT-CAMP!” It shouldn’t even be something that the audience notices, but you guys like insight, so this is insight. We work hard to make sure we get the details just right – and when it pays off it’s an incentive for us to continue working hard. This one paid off.

Seeing Taj and her husband Eddie George on Exile Island was a great story. Here’s a guy who makes his living getting beat up playing pro football and yet even he is impressed with his wife and everything she has gone through. By the way, did anybody else notice how easily Eddie made fire? Hmm. Eddie George for season 19?

The other thing I liked about this episode is we had enough time to show you a bit of each Survivor’s relationship with their loved one. It reminds you that they are real people with real lives.

Talk about insight:

J.T.’s sister letting J.T. know that everybody wishes he was back home with the cows.

Erinn’s dad seeing his “girly girl” daughter surviving out in the wild.

Eddie George admitting “something about the wild is a bit of a turn on.”

Come on, this is good stuff. And then before you know it, the loved ones are gone and it’s …

… back to the game.

Debbie, Debbie, Debbie. Sitting around the campfire dictating to J.T., Stephen and Erinn how things need to go – man oh man. I give her credit for trying to strike a deal with an imaginary idol that she doesn’t have promising to give it to J.T. and Stephen if she ever ends up with it. No matter how much you like someone, there is NO WAY you can believe that promise. It just doesn’t happen, not with one million dollars within reach.
NO CHANCE she holds true on that promise. No chance.

INSIGHT: The Immunity Challenge – let me be clear about something. What Stephen did was jaw dropping amazing. We rehearsed that challenge several times. Our smartest guys practiced that challenge. Nobody came close to memorizing the numbers in one pass. Stephen was so far behind, much further than we even had time to show, that I wasn’t even paying attention to him. I thought J.T. had it in the bag. Stephen finally returns and like a mad scientist starts scribbling numbers down as fast as he can. I was checking my cheat sheet, I couldn’t believe he had it right. You can even see me double checking it again after he said he had it. I had to make sure I wasn’t missing something. Our crew was talking about that for a couple of days. Very impressive.

FINAL WORDS: I did something this blog and I hope you all appreciate it. Can you guess what it is that I did?

Lexie_girl
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Ginger, my guess (and it's probably wrong) is the shocking betrayal is if Taj were to try to get the Idol back from Stephen and he tells her that it is his and he is keeping it. That's about the only thing I could come up with.

Lexie_girl
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... or it could be Coach finding out that Debbie wanted to turn on him.

That's all I've got.

Pamy
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I think it's the 2nd one. I actually think this is the ep Coach will go. It looks like Erinn will go but I think it's misdirection

WB Ginger!!!

Kookliebird
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The only one that could have a bizarre approach to Exile Island is Coach. With the exception of JT, I think all the rest have already been there. Maybe that's where the title of the show comes from .... Coach is the martyr. It sounds like something he would do.

Kookliebird
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No, I think it's Taj and Stephen with the II for the betrayal part of the show. Taj may ask for it back and Stephen does not give it to her.

Alaginger
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Got DSL at my sister's new home late yesterday, so I opened the thread. Really can't do any more til Sunday, when I get back and can check out the other sites and bring over pictures. Stay Tuned!!!

I think the betrayal is Jalapao 3 filling Coach in on Debbie. Coach will rant, and rave, and talk them to death about it for 2 or 3 days, and then hopefully they will cut him lose. Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall on Ponderosa when Coach shows up and pins Debbie down about it?

Reader234
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Announcer: Survivor week kicks off, CBS, Thursday.

Jeff Probst <at endurance Immunity Challenge>: It will get difficult.

Coach: <yells out in pain>

Announcer: With a battle to make the final four...

JT: People are sort dumb(?) in this game.

Coach: Hit me with your best shot.

Erinn: He's gonna take the martyr approach.

Coach: That's pretty harsh.

Erinn: That's kind of how I feel.

JT: They talk way too much.

Announcer: When the Dragon Slayer goes down...

Coach: My God.

Announcer: Is he faking an injury?

Taj: This guy is such a drama queen.

Stephen: I definitely felt bad for the guy.

Taj: Any 37 year old man who thinks he's a dragon slayer belongs in a mental institution.

Announcer: New Survivor Thursday and the season finale Sunday.

Reader234
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Reader234
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picRC
reward challenge

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Imunity challenge


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coach being Martyr

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Pamy
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I think Coach or Erinn will win this IC

Reader234
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survivor spoilers have

coach going to exile island
JT winning RC

(one of the other boards is saying that Taj is the last one on the jury- which would be next week - with the way the boys are thinking, since everyone hates coach, why not take him to the finals with you?)

Reader234
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IC winner?

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the picture is larger but I resized to fit forum guidlines from RFF

Pamy
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Reader, good stuff, thx!

Reader234
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I meant to add -

that I reduced the picture, it is of Erin - and it just shows something on her neck - its probable - but not definitive... at this point

and of course there are hundreds more pictures, I just picked a few - just to see if it was possible for me to post pics - and dh says this computer is having problems - so I dont want to push it by putting too many pics on here...

so the RC is a maze that says SURVIVOR - and there are pics of a whitewater rafting that could be the reward...

Seamonkey
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Would they do White Water rafting twice? Not that I wouldn't enjoy it twice if I were there..

Coach on Exile sounds like a fine idea.

Seattlemom
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I would also Love to see Coach sent to exile but that would once again give him his dragon slayer podium to regal us with his in his mind self importance!
I see him after the show is over watching himself over and over, filling in the blanks to anyone that can stand listening to what he did that the camera didnt show LOL

Reader234
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From the overhead, it doesn't seem like much of a maze (not a lot of choices about which way to go), and I don't see anything like a "station". Could it be just that you have to guess the letters? The gate/flags are the dividing line between characters? The one we see up does look like between the first two, and the one we see down could start the R.

Interesting to have to translate the boundaries of your footpath into a shape, but seems sorta easy once you got S-U. The first part would be sorta careful and exploring, then once you got it it would be a sprint. So JT being ahead might not mean much. Erinn may be moving a little quicker than the rest of them, has she already got it?

Does the fact that they bothered to give everyone a color tell us that there is something else to do at the end of the maze, something where they each need to go to their own table or whatever?

The flags look to be generic. Generic bag, generic flag and all of them seem to have to pass through it. (you can see thin branches on the sides of the corridor between letters to corral them to the next letter) I think the flags are just so Jeffy can say "JT is on to the next section. Coach close behind!" Since the first gate is still up, it's not like it resets itself shut for the next survivor to unlock it to enable them entrance.

(I c/p above - per the reward, it was late, and I dont remember where I snagged that or saw that pic, I'll look around I could've been in the wrong thread spoiler)

Alaginger
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Episode 12 Reward Challenge - "Blind to Reason"
Maze

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Since this says "Blind", and they aren't wearing their blindfolds, I'm guessing that they are allowed to do a walk-through first to familiarize themselves and then are blindfolded to walk the maze???........Just guessing

I see a white flag up, a white flag down, a red flag up, a green flag (far back right) up, and a flag I can't guess the color of near Taj. Since Red, White and Green are 3 of the colors of the blindfolds, I wonder how the flags do or do not come into play.

Reader........thanks for all you got started. I've been home for about 2 hours, so starting to check things out.........TY, TY, TY!!!

Pamy
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I hate blindfold challenges, I never enjoy watching them hurt themselves.

Alaginger
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Looks like Reader has brought over most of the best pics for this week --- GREAT!

Snooping around:
Can't find any site that really knows what the RC is, who wins, or what the reward is.

This picture of Coach appears he goes to Exile, so he can't win Reward.
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If Coach goes to Exile, what does polarizing effect mean?
"another castaway takes a bizarre approach to Exile Island, which has a polarizing effect on the rest of the tribe"

Too many variables on all the pictures of the IC where Coach falls to make a call.
1 - One set of pictures shows Coach down with Taj, JT and Stephen helping him, all bare-footed, with Erinn to the side in sneakers. She won and put on sneakers? She was first out and has had time to put on sneakers?
2 - One set of pictures shows JT and Stephen helping Coach and the two guys have their water bottles in their hands. Those would not be available in the challenge, only at the bench, so they were already out? Taj is behind Coach, no water bottle and smiling. Smiling because she thinks he is faking? Smiling because she won?
3 - Another picture shows Coach after being helped to the loser's bench with another guy sitting next to him ... buff showing. JT or Stephen???

LIke I said, too many variables to pin the winner down. The pic Reader had above, I cropped the umbrella and 2 people out, enlarged, and I couldn't see anything special around Erinn's neck. Doesn't mean she didn't win?

Most seem to agree Coach is leaving? Booted ... his time to go? Booted ... pity for injury? Medivac??? (I made that one up) A spoiler from quite awhile back said Coach was in 5th place.

Costacat
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This just may be my favorite line this season:
Taj: Any 37 year old man who thinks he's a dragon slayer belongs in a mental institution.

Ginger, it looks like they ARE blindfolded in that picture you posted. I can't tell but "coach" has a red blindfold, someone's got a white one, someone's got maybe a green one, and someone's got a blue one. The white one clearly looks like a blindfold.

And I hope to HECK you are right and "coach" gets the proverbial kick in the butt out this week. It's way past his time to go.

Alaginger
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The problem with these pictures is that they are large and you can see everything, but when you bring them over here you have to shrink them so they will upload to TV Clubhouse. A lot of times I crop a lot of the picture out, just so you get the meat of the subject, and that portion might not be too big to bring over, and you get bigger pictures that way.

The above picture, all the Survivors have their blindfolds up around their foreheads at this point. So far there are no pictures of them blindfolded, but since the title has the word "blindfold" in it, you just know that they are going to be blindfolded at some point.

I'll go crop a couple of close ups for you for the next post here.

Alaginger
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Maybe you can see better now that Coach and JT have the blindfold up around the forehead at this point.

That's why I think they are getting to see the lay of the land, before they are blindfolded...but have no idea what the flags mean. Reader said the flags appeared to be at the beginning of each letter, but why the different colors.......especially if they are going to be blindfolded? Will just have to wait and see (LOL).