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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 7:32 am
I took what Kely said to Crystal the same way, Alaginger.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 5:11 pm
Okay....now here's something for you to chew on. Survivor Fever has updated their boot list. On Fang ... they show as vulnerable Crystal and Ace On Kota ... they show as vulnerable Dan and Susie Speculators are saying that since the only picture in the IC showing players from opposing tribes is Ace and Marcus, that immunity must be between those two players. If Ace is vulnerable, then I assume SF is leaning toward Marcus winning the IC. Also, they don't show Sugar as vulnerable, but didn't she give the hidden II to Ace? They still show her as having it...and that Matty, Ken and Ace know she has it. (I find that interesting) In my opinion, if Marcus wins immunity, I think his tribe will boot Dan as he eats a lot and they are fixing to merge and he is a bigger threat than Susie. I then think that Marcus would give immunity to Ace as a gentleman knowing that Ace was his competitor for the IC, and because he was a past Kota, and because having sent Sugar to Exile so many times, he possibly thinks she is already safe with a hidden II. So, if I had to play my cards right now, I would say Dan and Crystal are going...but I could be way off base (LOL).
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 5:25 pm
Ginger, Sugar told Ace last week that she took the HII out of his jacket pocket.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Tuesday, October 28, 2008 - 5:43 pm
Sugar took the II out of Ace's belongings after a talk with Ken. We were not shown her taking it, they showed her telling Ace she took it back. He did not look pleased.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 3:56 am
la de da deee dahhhhhhh... I won't miss Crystal one bit if she leaves. Goodbye and good riddance.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:18 am
Oh My Goodness....well I missed that. Thanks for telling me, cause it didn't make sense to me. However; the rules say you can find it or you can receive it as a gift, but you can't steal (take) it. So, if she gave it to Ace ... and then took it back...bet that put the producers into a quandary (LOL).
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 6:17 am
I don't think so...it was her's in the first place and although Ace asked her to give it to him that doesn't mean she can't take it back! It's a fine line don't you know?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 8:42 am
Well, I got a big laugh out of this, so thought you guys might enjoy it also. Over at Survivor Blows, they have started voting on who they think gets the boot this week, and look at the big mix. Crystal/Susie Dan/Sugar Crystal/Dan Dan/Crystal Crystal/Susie Crystal/Dan ace/dan In other words, nobody really knows!!! This Gabon Series is really secluded, and hush/hush...so the spoilers aren't really getting a good hold on too much this time. But, there has been some really good analytical work from the clues and the promo pictures (always fun to follow).
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 11:58 am
But that is what is making this such a good year...it is such fun!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 3:29 pm
I don't think Ace asked her for the Idol. I think she asked him to hold it for her so no one would go digging in her bag looking for it. But, of course, she did not know they had already done that.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 3:41 pm
Well, if you go by the law of averages... It'll be Dan and Crystal! Neither of which I wouldn't mind seeing the door hit 'em on the way out! 
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:04 pm
Okay....the SOTS (State of the spoiling) column has been posted at Survivor Blows. These are always great analytical reading, and I love them, but they are based on clues and pics analysis and most seasons some spoiling (but this season, hardly any spoiling available). Flowerpower has stepped up to the plate and her pick for the winner of the IC being either Ace or Marcus and the two boots is Crystal and Dan. She also says Kota will win RC with Sugar going back to Exile --- and that seems obvious from the pics available. A lot of her cohorts don't agree with her on the IC winner, several still leaning toward Matty...which is hard to believe with the pic of Marcus and Ace on the barrel battling it out. Some also believe Dan is safe, and Susie goes. So..........basically, it's anybody's guess at this point, but narrowed down quite a bit.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:05 pm
I forgot to say that Flowerpower feels strong about a Crystal and Dan boot based a lot on this pic.
Notice the "2" as regards two will go home is right on Crystal with Dan clearly in the picture.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 5:34 pm
I didn't recall him asking her for it either. She offered it up, I think meaning for him to hold for her, since the others knew she had it. Which really made no sense to me, because he HAD told her they went through her bag. I would have thought they might force me to use it so I would have kept it with me. Not really sure of her reasoning.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 6:16 pm
Okay Hiyall. I can't remember when exactly she found out about them going through her bag. For some reason, I thought Sugar did not know they knew she had the idol and that's why she gave it to Ace --- to keep them from finding it.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 7:35 pm
Straight from the CBS website --- recap of the scene where the II changes hands originally last week: ***************************** Ace approaches Sugar in the hut and warns her that he is almost certain that everyone knows she is in possession of the immunity idol. Sugar then offers to give the idol to Ace for safe keeping. Ace accepts her offer, and is given the immunity idol. Sugar admits that she is aware that Ace is untrustworthy: "Ace is kind of a snake, but he's my snake, and I'm glad to have him." Ace, on the other hand, is ecstatic about his new power position in the game: "It's been a crazy couple of days. It went from me being in a position of no power to a position of supremacy, having the immunity idol in my pocket. I have Matty's word. I have Sugar. I feel like I put myself in a very good position coming from a tribe that I didn't have any alliance with."
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, October 29, 2008 - 8:39 pm
As I watched the show and as I read the recap, I understand Sugar to be "giving" the idol to Ace FOR SAFE KEEPING, (not for ownership) ... I was confused then and I am confused now as to why Ace would feel he has achieved a position of power. He simply has become a safe deposit box. It would have been foolish of Sugar to simply give up the idol... I doubt she intended to do that.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 4:41 am
Frankly, I think the whole thing was misleading on the part of CBS, so they could hype it up that the II changed hands, that it was given away, blah, blah, blah.......... The recap over at CBS is probably correct, and the way it was protrayed on the show was not complete, and the promos were misleading. Regardless, Sugar once again has control of the idol, and I'm glad Merrysea and CSnog got me on the right path. I remember hearing Sugar say something to Ace one time that I couldn't understand, and I just thought it was something unimportant.........so that was probably where I missed it.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 4:43 am
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I am surprised they arent leaning towards a Sugar immunity. I think the title of the eppy refers to her having the II and giving it to someone on the other tribe
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 5:35 am
Pamy, that's what I also thought about the title of the next episode.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 7:04 am
Pamy Tha t was the 1st thing to cross my mind as well...
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 9:51 am
There are 26 votes in over at Survivor Blows and it's so heavy with ................ ... ... ... Crystal and Dan ... that I'm not going to waste my time telling the the one or two votes here, there or yonder for Susie, Ace, or Sugar.......
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 9:55 am
Whoo hoo! Those would be my hopeful votes!
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 12:24 pm
Acme's picks are in........ ... .... Reward: Kota, again Exile: Sugar, again (this might mean she's immune from the double TC) Immunity: Ace- who also apparently wins the right to see Kota's TC, and gives a 2nd immunity to someone on Kota before the vote...he gives it to Marcus) Boots: Crystal and Susie
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 30, 2008 - 12:37 pm
I was just coming over to bring that info from Acme .... Kota - Reward - and Sugar at Exile again is obvious since there is a picture of Sugar at Exile for this episode, and Fang would have to lose for her to be there again. Ace and Marcus on the barrel together, seems to support that they each won in their respective tribes, so Ace giving Marcus immunity would be a "good sport" thing to do...and also get him some brownie points when they merge. Wonder if Acme is speculating or has some spoiler info.??? Boots: Crystal (seems a no-brainer - hope I don't have to eat those words) and Susie (well, it's between her and Dan, and with Marcus having the immunity, I'm surprised they don't boot Dan --- the big eater and more of a threat.)
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