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Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I do believe that I would be useless if I didn't have at least 1500 calories a day! lol.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

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I really don't enjoy seeing them starve and wish that the show would do something to change that part.

I realize this is a TV show called Survivor but they could have more reward challenges or more ways for them to secure food on their own.

Any ideas?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I'll just bet the native peoples wouldn't be starving right in that same spot. I imagine just under the soil there are all kinds of starchy bulbs etc that would be great to eat.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I have to wonder, though, how "in shape" Crystal was before she started. Since she struggled running up the hill, I'm thinking she wasn't in shape. And I've not see her do well in challenges at all, bailing out early or not doing much. Then again, I think Ace has been useless on half of 'em, while carrying the entire tribe on the other half.

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

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I can't remember ever seeing the contestants look so starved as these guys do now. Matty and Corinne look especially bad. I'd be really angry at the guy taking more than his share, too! I would feel murderous, lol.

I also think Crystal must be really out of shape (relatively speaking), too. She's a former Olympian in Track & Field, so you'd think she would have been able to run faster and get up the hill more easily in the first challenge, when they weren't starving yet. When was she in the Olympics? Ten years ago? She hasn't told anyone about her Olympic past, though, so maybe she slowed down on purpose? I don't know.

I was under the impression that Sugar told Ace she was going to tell Kenny she took the HII back, not actually take it. So she really has it? If so, then my opinion of her just leaned towards more postive again.

I don't blame Ace for taking over that last bit in the challenge and losing (although Jeff was yelling to him that the pieces should just be able to slide in, and Ace just kept jamming it); I blame the rest of the group for standing back and just letting him try - they should have ignored him. Is was such a letdown after Kenny and Matty(?) did so well in the last relay.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Sugar took the HII idol back from Ace and then told him she did. She did that after her convo with Kenny.

For that last bit in the challenge, while he told everyone he "had it", he obviously didn't. Yet no one there offered to help him, they all just stood around watching. So while I blame Ace I also blame the rest of the tribe for acting incompetent.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Crystal was the Olympic gold medalist in various 100m, 200m and 400m events in 2004. The last big event (USA Outdoor Finals) for her that I can find is in 2006, and she wasn't a medalist. It doesn't seem that long ago, but I guess if she just gave up then and left athletics altogether then she could be out of shape. (Relatively speaking, as you say!)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I also noticed there is more fruit each time she goes LOL!!! I betcha the crew has grown fond of her since they have spent so much 1 on 1 time. They prolly fly her off the island at nite and put her up in a hotel LOL

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I actually don't think this group is as emaciated as the group in Pascal's year. They had a number of people that season that were just skin and bones.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
How old is her daughter? Stopping elite-level training to have a baby, then possibly nurse, etc. could have an effect. Also, being a single mother certainly doesn't give you time to be as fit. Being an Olympic level athlete (or even a national level for that matter) is a FULL-time job. This is why different countries have trouble remaining competitive on the global scale; because their countries don't fund athletics the same way as in other countries.

I agree that the bulkier, more muscular people are usually the ones who have more trouble. It is harder when in starvation mode for the body to *eat* its own muscle than it is for fatter people's bodies to start using fat stores. This has been shown in a few different seasons. Remember that one (very sexy) black guy who gave up only one or two episodes in....I forget his name, or maybe my eyes were so busy undressing him mentally, that I never learned the name. But anyways, he gave up pretty quickly, and asked to be voted out. I remember his shorts kept falling down. Oh sorry....running away with myself there....

On the other hand, you'd think people like James would then have troubles too. I guess everyone reacts differently.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, October 24, 2008 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
It says she gave birth to her daughter, Destiny "as a junior at UNC." Not sure what age that translates to, 20? She was born in 1979, so I'd guess her daughter was born well before she went to the Olympics.

http://www.usatf.org/athletes/bios/oldBios/2007/Cox_Crystal.asp

Mmmmm, James... I wonder what he's up to these days.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
I think alot of it is mental. Some people naturally hang in there while others quit very easily. I put both Crystal and Ken in the latter group - yep Olympics and all. Since day one, they've had a negative slant and were always looking for someone to blame rather then help themselves. So when they stood there watching Ace and didn't even attempt to get the other poles and try to put them together, I wasn't the least bit surprised. Sugar is just as useless but Ace likes her so he doesn't see it.

I feel sorry for Matty and Ace but no one else on that tribe. I think they're both way too nice to Ken and Crystal.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
OSTEN! That was his name (from Pearl Islands - I had to go back and look at the banners). That's who gave up early in the season.

Kimmy_1
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05-12-2004

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimmy_1 a private message Print Post    
Kitt thanks for that link. If I read correctly, she didn't even run the race for her gold medal. It says that she earned her medal when her teammates won the gold.

Kimmy_1
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05-12-2004

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kimmy_1 a private message Print Post    
Kitt thanks for that link. If I read correctly, she didn't even run the race for her gold medal. It says that she earned her medal when her teammates won the gold.

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodie75 a private message Print Post    
Kappy, I didn't see Kenny as wanting to quit. Did you mean GC? Kenny was one of the two who ran hard in the relay race and managed to catch up Fang to Kota, only to have Ace mess it up as the others uselessly gawked.

Teach, I didn't see the year Pascal was in. I missed 2 Survivor seasons, I think.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
The season w/Pascal, they were on an island where they were pretty much stuck eating citrus fruit (limes IIRC) and coconut - both known to have laxative effects. They all looked horrible that year, and I don't recall it having been as bad since. They all lose weight and go hungry, but that year was definitely the worst.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Kimmy, I don't think there's much difference in the training required to be top in the semi-finals at the Olympics and be in the finals!

Pascal was the older guy who was friends with Elizabeth Hasselback(sp?) wasn't he? I remember she was completely emaciated too. I think in those earlier years the contestants (females particularly) came onto the show wanting to look as good as possible, which often equated to skinny. They had no fat or muscles to work with. I'm surprised some of them didn't have long term health issues from it.

Oregonguy
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Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
it was roger who was in elizabeth's season and that was season2 in australia. that season they lost their food in a flood i believe and had to trade stuff to jeff just to get some rations.

pascal was season 4 and the young girl he was friends was Neleh who finished second.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Someone ran the semi-final at the Olympics this year, and stepped aside for Usain Bolt to run in the final. Happens a lot.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Oh yes, Neleh! I remember the name but not the face.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
I saw Crystal jump right in to work on the pole with Ace, and he snapped at her, saying he could do it himself. I was disappointed that everyone let him get away with that behavior, but maybe the rest of them don't care to win this game.

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

Saturday, October 25, 2008 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodie75 a private message Print Post    
Oh, I remember Neleh, but I don't recall Pascal. So I did see that season, but I still don't remember them looking as starved as this season. I missed the season they started doing the exile island, and the one right after that. Australia is STILL my favourite season. I will never forget when Mike(?) passed out and fell in the fire. That was when <57> Jerri Manthey was on, and Amber, who went on to another season and ended up marrying that curly-haired guy.

Roppiepie
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05-06-2004

Sunday, October 26, 2008 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roppiepie a private message Print Post    
Why do they let Dan get away with hogging the food? S2, Australia, the people got to looking skeletal...Tina? Elisabeth's hair was falling out in clumps. The newer seasons don't look half as emaciated, IMHO. What's up with Fang that no one goes foraging? Just plain lazy, I think.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, October 27, 2008 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
that's what I don't get, why don't they just pull Dan aside and say, listen you eat too much!!!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, October 27, 2008 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Confrontation avoidance, maybe? Kota IS winning, and if they stir things up, maybe they syncronicity will vanish? I think many of 'em are just biding their time, waiting till Kota has to kick off one of their own.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, October 27, 2008 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Sooner or later, Kota will have to start eating one of its own... unless Dan beats them to it!!!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, October 27, 2008 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
unless Dan beats them to it!!!


Lexi

Roxip
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01-29-2004

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That was subtle and snarky and I loved it!

Lexie_girl
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