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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 3:05 am
I also was disappointed in Marcus' questioning of Sugar. "Did you really loose your father? I know you have lied a lot" "Let's see if that's good enough to get my vote" ... those statements just made him look bad, not her. And at the reunion, his comments towards Sugar were just mean-spirited. He took the low road IMO. (until then I had really liked Marcus, but he really dropped down a few pegs that night)
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 5:40 am
I think hanging with the other bitter players rubbed off on Marcus. He really went down in my book. He will be another one that a year from now I wont even remember who he was.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 6:30 am
I agree that Marcus ended up being a lapdog type of player and latched onto the scummiest player in the game. I'm sure they thought they got a good edit and would be well liked by the viewers....surprise!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 7:00 am
Sugar is the Janelle of this season's Survivor. The cute blonde that acts as badly as others, plays a good game, but is loved by a certain portion of the viewers that think she can do no wrong.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 8:20 am
LOL Ladytex. Yeah, for some reason people like Sugar. If I were to ask myself, who'd you like to have lunch with: Corrine or Sugar. Without a doubt I'd pick Sugar. I wouldn't have to fear her being nasty to me, but I also wouldn't fear her being fake either. And I agree about everyone's comments about Marcus. Perhaps the high IQ comments have gone to his head a bit. His behavior at tribal council was also ugly. I'm not a fan.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:08 am
It would definitely not have helped Sugar to take Matty. The jury said that they would have given him 5 votes. It was real easy to see the votes and the breakdown. And it proved them all bitter. Sugar had a hand in voting off the majority of the first four jurors. They were bitter about it and could not forgive her. They liked Bob and had only contempt for Susie so their votes went to Bob. Sugar had a hand in voting off the last three jurors also. But this time Bob was also involved. So those three did not like Sugar or Bob and could not forgive them so their votes went to Susie. The only one who did get past his bitterness and vote out the person he was pissed at was Randy. He was very angry with Bob, but voted for him anyway. Of course he hated Sugar and was contemptous of Susie, so it really left him little choice. The first four were voting AGAINST Sugar, but they at least got it right between Bob and Susie and voted FOR Bob. Kenny, Matty, and Crystal voted strictly out of revenge. There is no way they really thought Susie was deserving of the million. I don't believe that for a minute. They were voting AGAINST Bob and Sugar rather than for Susie. Although I wanted Bob to win and am delighted he did, it would have been interesting to see how they would have voted between Sugar, Susie, and Crystal. We know they would have voted for Matty, and probably would have for Kenny, but how would they have voted between the three women. I really believe Susie would have won, because this jury had no concept of rewarding good game play.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:18 am
I loved Sugar, and I am glad they recruited her to be on the show and gave her a good contract to ensure she accepted. She did an excellent job for her money, and she made a very fun season for us.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:19 am
I'm sorry, I have to disagree. Sugar is no Janelle...Janelle could win challenges.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:23 am
Actually, I don't think Sugar's fans think she can do no wrong. Most people acknowledge she was hateful at times, the behavior toward Randy at the TC. But I guess that the way I explain it is that there did not seem to be maliciousness in her. And a lot of hers was reactive rather than proactive. She responded to nastiness with nastiness, but she did not start it. And while she is not particularly ashamed of her behavior, she is not proud of it and she did say she tried to apologize to Randy, but he wanted no part of it. So people liked her in spite of her not being perfect. Now Corrine? I saw maliciousness in her. She was proud of her behavior, and thought it was "cool." She was very hard to like. I think the key that gives it all away to me is that at the reunion show, when asked what she did to make them dislike her, the thing they all mentioned was the crying. They had this much hate over crying? To me that smacked of an excuse. You are irratated at someone who cries all the time, you might have contempt for them, but hate them? That just does not make sense.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:54 am
I like Sugar, but as Allie says I don't think she is without faults. Gosh we all make mistakes, get snippy at times, do things we deep down know we shouldn't, but If I were to dislike everyone who does these things, I would like no one.. But as a whole I think Sugar tried to be nice and enjoy her experience.. I found her to be a breath of fresh air
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:17 am
You get a very different perspective of Sugar when you hear castoff interviews. About what she was like around camp (lazy, bossy, huge sense of entitlement) vs what she was like on camera. Yes, she gave us great tv & confessionals (she was on the show to play a part and get exposure - just like most Big Brother HG). But she was not liked by anyone on that jury, not even Crystal or Kenny. She knew it didn't matter who she took to the finals with her, she knew she wasn't going to win. But she sure caused some really good TV, didn't she. Kota "liked" Bob only for his ingenuity around camp. They tell how long-winded his stories would be and how he would talk on and on (more than we saw of the Suzie chatter after her immunity win). Then Jeff was frustrated when Bob *wouldn't* talk during the reunion show (but I think he was just too stunned). Corinne gives the best post show interviews. Hate her or love her, she was true to her edit and not afraid to speak her mind. Marcus came across as a dumb public speaker (lots of "likes" and "you know" type words added into his sentences - that's a real negative in my book).

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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 12:00 pm
I do like Sugar because she caused good tv. I don't like Corinne <57> if she truly believes her behavior is acceptable. "I have no filter" isn't an excuse anywhere in the REAL world.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 12:26 pm
As far as I'm concerned, Corinne's "I have no filter" is nothing more than an excuse for her to act mean, rude and obnoxious.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 2:04 pm
Isn't it interesting that usually the "tell it like it is," croud can't take it when someone tells them how it is. Corrine thought she could say anything but she got furious at Susie for saying she was thinking of writing her name down, and at Sugar for telling her a few home truths. Randy thought he could say anything, do anything, manipulate anyone, and run the game as he wanted. But when he was manipulated and voted out, he thought it was terrible of them to treat hims so. Kenny thought it was fine to manipulate Bob and plan to stab him in the back, but when the tables were turned on him, he was outraged. Even though Bob kept his promise to keep him safe that week. Even after he was out of the game and on the jury, he was still making a big deal out of it. I wonder if he realized before or after he watched the show how silly that all was? He did not bring it up at the reunion, so I assume he was over it.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 2:35 pm
Ladytex Member 09-27-2001 Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 6:45 am Sugar is the Janelle of this season's Survivor. The cute blonde that acts as badly as others, plays a good game, but is loved by a certain portion of the viewers that think she can do no wrong. Thank you. I couldn't agree more. I don't see the allure of Sugar. She's hardly the 'poor widdle bay-bee' that everyone makes her out to be. I hardly think she played a good game. Starting with taking out her biggest ally early on, all the way to choosing "good" over "evil" at the end. You can't defend her for dumping Matty b/c he would have gotten more votes, then defend her for choosing the good people over Crystal/Kenny who would have had been better people to go up against in the end. Both choices exclude the other reasons.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 5:20 pm
I didn't care for Sugar from the beginning. She just torpedoed people willy-nilly with no strategy or sense. That whole drama at the end with Bob being her "father" and Matty her "brother," sob, sob, had drama queen written all over it.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 5:57 pm
I'll have to disagree with you Puzzled. Yes she was a drama queen and yes she was over emotional, but Sugar and Kenny were they only two survivors who had any strategy or common sense this season. The Onions just knew that they were so much better than anyone else that they would dominate. When they started going down, they couldn't even think about ways to save themselves. Sugar was instrumental in ousting everyone from Charlie on out. Other than Kenny, everyone else just waited for someone to tell them what to do.
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 6:11 pm
It's interesting that while all the castmates go on about how emotional and unstrategic she was, nobody banded together to take her out and get rid of her "unpredictability" factor. So she had the HII. They could have forced her to use it and gotten that out of the way. It was becoming clear that she was not a vote that could be controlled. To manage to stay in the game, never have her name written down yet garner so much dislike is kind of fascinating. I think she played a very sly game and knew exactly what she was doing. She was a free agent that couldn't really be controlled or relied on , yet , everyone thought they could count on her vote.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 6:52 pm
Everything is relative. The people I liked in the beginning became too cocky as the season went on. The others seemed to be screw ups. So compared to the people who couldn't seem to get their act together and those who thought they could do no wrong, Sugar seemed to take it in stride. I don't know what we weren't shown, but she just seemed to me to let things roll off her back unless someone came at her. From what they showed us, she seemed to have a better attitude than the others. Perfect? Far from it. Better than the other choices? Yes.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:11 pm
Just like I figured: Although Sugar received zero votes, she was in a fantastic mood, and seemed thrilled with the whole experience. That may be because she’ll be back to work as an actor soon, if SAG doesn’t strike. “I got the best contract that they’ve given anybody in 17 seasons,” she told me, as she’s allowed to go back on TV and start auditioning for film and TV roles again in January. http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_gabon/2008_Dec_17_sugar_susie_finale
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:29 pm
Csnog posted that yesterday, the whole interview is right here in this thread
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 10:22 pm
And just like I thought, she got a sweet contract. I posted the link because I quoted something. And since that post just appeared on realityblurred, it's not a repeat. Is that a problem?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 5:36 am
not at all. those quotes are also from the interview from Realitynewsonline (that Csnog posted) more telling to me is that she mentions she got the best contract...meaning they must give contracts to everyone or many of them.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 6:22 am
of course they all sign contracts. very lengthy and detailed contracts.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 7:01 am
I don't think Sugar even comes close to Janelle. A year from now half the people won't even remember Sugar. Janelle still has a following. If she were to come on another reality show tomorrow, she would automatically be the favorite. I liked Janelle and I liked Sugar, but neither of them were my favorites in their seasons. At the end of Janelle's seasons I was pulling for her because my favorites got voted out before she did and I did not particularly like who was left. Bob was my favorite, so of course I liked the things Sugar did that helped him. But believe me, I was not a fan who turned a blind eye to Sugar's faults. I often found her spoiled, silly, and selfish. But there was just something about her that made me like her and laugh when she did something silly or when she pulled off something unexpected.
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