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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 2:01 pm
I cannot imagine balancing on the back of the hand like that! That breakdown's not so good for Sugar IF she really was allied with Kenny/Crystal and Matty is likely to be angry about the boot of Ace. And she doesn't even get her nemesis/benefactor Marcus on her team either.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 4:42 pm
But she still has her hidden II....and this split will probably only be for the one show, I bet!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 5:03 pm
Matty knows Sugar has the HII, so he may choose to align with her. But Randy will likely stick with Corrine and Charley since he hated the orignal Fang (wasn't Matty part of that tribe)? Should be interesting to see how they get 'em all switched up. And in both tribes, it's 3 Kota to 2 Fang. Sorta like an evened up split.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 02, 2008 - 5:25 pm
So far, it's hard to tell it the IC is individual or tribal. If it is tribal and Fang loses, I think Matty is in trouble. If Kota loses, Marcus is in trouble. It's merge time and the players are going to start wanting to see the competition out.......and both tribes are set up this week to get rid of a powerful player....Matty or Marcus. I can't see Randy, Corrine and Charley trying to flush out the II from Sugar and then taking the chance of her playing it and one of them going by just one vote ... whichever one she chose to target.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, November 03, 2008 - 5:14 am
Thanks to Survivor Fever, more pics and promo quotes. (I don't know what I would do without Survivor Fever - they have the best source for getting original info) Promo Transcript: Announcer: The Survivors think it's a merge. They think they know the game but what's in this box will shock everyone.
Marcus: This is me crumbling up my playbook and throwing it out the window.
Ginger Note: Seemed funny to me that they featured Marcus and Matty, cause that's the two players I think are the most at risk now.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, November 03, 2008 - 5:37 am
and I never can tell them apart! LOL wonder what the title means. Temptation?? or just play on words cuz there is fruit given and they are in 'last Eden'
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, November 03, 2008 - 8:37 am
Well, with 5 on each tribe and only a fake merge meal and then an IC Challenge, I don't think anybody goes to Exile Island this week .... so they are probably not referring to the apple there. The tribes come together for a surfside feast with a tempting twist. The castaways decide to make a shocking sacrifice that many regret. I wonder if the meal was a temptation that they could refuse, or they could partake of only if they opened the box at the end of the meal. The clue doesn't say merge, but surfside feast. And, the switch would be something several would regret.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Monday, November 03, 2008 - 4:51 pm
Ginger, that sounds pretty plausible, and from the few clues we see, I think it might be the most likely scenario. The thought that goes through my mind is this: If the tribes come together and have the choice of taking the meal or not, do the Fang people, starving, push the issue and make Kota go for it? I know if I were on Kota and didn't really need the food, I'd regret it if I ate, got caught in a switch of tribes and ended up in Fang.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 5:21 am
Well........we will see. The producers have been very tricky this season, and it's really hard, not only for us to figure out what's going on ahead of time, but for the players to make plans and form alliances. Ace pretty much alluded to this in one of his interviews being booted...that the show has changed a lot and it's almost impossible now to have a game plan. Meanwhile..........yoohoo, Pamy, here's your favorite part. The word spoken at the T.C. that booted Dan has a lot of meat in it this week. I'm going to highlight in red what drew my attention as to having possible spoiler/speculation value......which, I know, is going to be all mishmashed now that there is a new mix-up with the tribes. ******************************** Tribal Council Voting: Kota Watch as the Kota Tribe cast their votes Bob (Dan with a drawing, maybe a suit and tie?): Dan, sorry about that, had to do it. You, a little hesitation about going with the other, another alliance, isn't a good thing. Hope to see you in Boston. Susie (Dan with a smiley face): Dan. Sorry Dan. Marcus (Susie): This is about Dan, not you. Corinne (Dan): Strategically, I thought this is what I had to do to protect my alliance, but after tonight's Tribal, I think I might have made a mistake. I'm sorry. Randy (Susie): Sorry, Dan. Susie, you're soon. Charlie (Dan): Lawyer to lawyer, I just don't trust you. Sorry. Dan ("The Suze"): Susie, you have a great heart. Unfortunately, I'm going to be political and vote with what I think the rest of the tribe is voting. I hope to hear good things from you in the future though. Good luck.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 5:24 am
And, then ... here's the Tribal voting from Fang where Ace got chopped! ***************************** Tribal Council Voting: Fang Watch as the Fang Tribe cast their votes Ace (Crystal): I guess it's just one of those things. Ken (Ace with aces decorating the card): Since day one, I wanted to risk my life just to take you out because I knew you were a snake. I hope this...I hope my plan doesn't fail. If my plan does fail, then I'm gone next. Matty (Crystal): Crystal, I've been waiting for this day for so long and I'm so happy it's here. Sugar ("Ace-hole"): You told me to cut off the head of the snake. Well, I'm not as dumb as I look. (winks and makes a kissing sound) Thank you for the great times. Crystal (Ace): You are one of the snakes. I gotta get rid of you. Go home.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 5:42 am
Interesting stuff, thx Ginger!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 2:17 pm
Survivor Fever has updated their boot list. It backs up that they don't know who wins the IC, and depending on which new tribe wins, they don't know who is getting the boot......but it shows which way they are leaning on the boot. NunuKota: Crystal - Very Vulnerable Marcus - Very Vulnerable Susie - Vulnerable NunuFang: Matty - Very Vulnerable Randy - Vulnerable
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 4:57 pm
oh out of that list I really hope it is Crystal. I really don't like it when a tribe switch causes a strong player to get the boot.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 04, 2008 - 7:15 pm
I am in a pool at wk and I have Sugar, we just did another pool, the final 10 and I got Susie, I kissed my money goodbye LOL
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 5:57 am
The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) article is up over at Survivor Blows. Very interesting read and analyses on a lot of the players, pros and cons as to why they would or would not be prime targest this week..........but the writer has narrowed it down and feels very strongly that it is........ Crystal to get the boot this week. We will have to wait and see if her analysis work was correct. Meanwhile, another promo is up....with a lot of the same material...but this one shows Matty and Sugar discussing Ace's dismissal. Promo Transcript:
Matty: Nobody wants to be thrown out of Eden. Announcer: They think it's a merge. They think they know the game.
Randy: I am the new king of Gabon. But nothing is what it appears to be.
Matty: Ace was covering you the whole time, he never was gunning for you.
Sugar: I know. I feel awful that I got rid of Ace.
Announcer: And what's in this box... Randy: It says, "Do not open..." Announcer: Will shock everyone.
Marcus: This is me crumpling up my playbook and throwing it out the window.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 7:25 am
I also meant to mention that another poster at Survivor Blows who does indepth analysis of the Survivor: Insider (the thing I get the TC votings from each week), and has been right the past 4 boots based on this analysis. It's very involved and I can't begin to explain it here, but it's based on seeing what the Insider puts out in the way of exposure, and misleads (these are important), and storylines that don't seem to be completed yet, etc., etc., etc. Anyway..........this poster has also, based on analyzing the Insider, predicted a Crystal boot.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 8:55 am
I just hope it is not Marcus.... we have hardly seen ya!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:08 am
Er, or we saw too MUCH of ya! I hope it's Crystal that's ousted on Thursday. It's way past her time to go.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 10:47 am
I'm cool with Crystal leaving (and I had such a positive pre-season slant on her, but she never even came close to living up to it), but I'd also love to see Randy taken down soon.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 3:16 pm
This is a very interesting Promo Transcript, but none of the pictures were with bothering to bring over, since it's pretty much the same as we have already seen. ***************************** Promo Transcript: Jeff Probst: One of the hardest things on this show for us to do is to outfox the Survivors. We've done so many twists they predict them all. Every so often we get lucky that's what happens this episode. They think a merge is coming. They may be wrong, for once they actually may be wrong. Charlie (confessional): I thought there were going to be 10 new buffs in the box and that we were going to be a merged tribe. I just never in a million years predicted it. Randy: The game has changed once again, enjoy the adventure. Jeff Probst: There's also one of the most interesting things that's ever happened with an immunity idol happens in this episode and it will leave you scratching your head much the same way you scratched your head when Erik gave up immunity in last season's Survivor, Fans Vs. Favorites. And a big theme begins to emerge and this is one that's going to carry out for the rest of the season and it's good versus bad. There are some people that decide, "you know what, we are good people and one of us should win, they're bad people and they shouldn't." That is a battle that will play out now, the bad, mean, ugly people versus the pretty, nice, good people. Who do you want to win?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 6:45 pm
This just in.....This just in......This just in!!! Based on the above post, the gal who did the SOTS over at Survivor Blows has changed her verdict. She feels (analyzes) that this brand new promo that just came out today, spells out that Fang goes to Tribal Council and Sugar does something interesting with the immunity idol. She also says that the following vidcap of Matty with the lone bird surperimposed over the picture spells out that Matty is the boot. I had this picture up above somewhere, and there was no bird, but probably the bird was there as the pic came onto the screen and disappeared by the time the shot I captured was there.....whatever!!!
I'm not 100% sure about Matty going. I think he is, but in the back of my mind I'm trying to figure out what's so unusual about an immunity idol play. I wonder if Sugar wins immunity, gives it to Matty and uses her Hidden II, and the boot backfires onto Randy (who she didn't show any liking for in the previous episode). But, the SOTS writer seems to think she is instrumental in the Matty boot cause he talks to her about Ace as we saw in previous pictures above. So.........I guess Crystal is now considered to be safe. Also, I wonder who the good are and who the evil are.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 05, 2008 - 9:18 pm
Well, crap! Couldn't someone ELSE win immunity this week and do something interesting?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 6:44 am
Now Sea.....calm down. The speculator/spoilers have been wrong several times this season already!!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 1:31 pm
Acme Trust has their picks up for tonight ... here's the scoop: **************** Reward: Our reward is getting to watch the Castaways get drunk and stupid at their fake merge feast. Exile: Nobody, but when the Fangs get tired of "King Randy" they'll wish they had been exiled. Immunity: The curse of Fang continues... New! Improved! Kota! wins again. Boot: A palace coup deposes King Randy
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 1:45 pm
Been gone all day. Checking out the voting over at Survivor Blows, everybody is switching around and changing there votes and pulling their hair out cause the promos have made them swing back and forth. The only thing set is that they feel sure it is somebody from Fang. The last 4 votes in are for Sugar, and added to 4 other votes she already had, she is the highest on the poll with Matty and Randy each having 4 or 5 each. Should be an interesting show........ P.S. Checking out Survivor Fevers bootlist, they still show Sugar as "safe".......hmmmmm???
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 7:30 pm
(LOL) ....... Not even close!!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, November 06, 2008 - 10:39 pm
Hee!! When I finally got to watch I was just laughing.. Kota, not Fang, Marcus, not Matty, not Randy (too bad about that...) and WTH is that with throwing away a perfectly good immunity idol? Secretly I hope it floats ashore and Sugar gets it. Our local Watcher guy didn't even attempt to predict but gave his Midpoint of the Season analysis which already is off.. http://pedrowatcher.freedomblogging.com/2008/11/06/survivor-gabon-measuring-the-midpoint/2187/ After Thursday’s fake-merge/tribal swap - probably followed by the real merge - we will be rid of half of the Goobers who started out on “Survivor: Gabon.” It’s been a strange season of missteps and half-hearted efforts, but strangest of all has been the drying up of Spoiler River. We’ve had to negotiate “Survivor: Gabon” without the usual outpouring of inside information. As such, the Watcher is forced to try to figure things out on his own - always a highly dubious proposition. Here is my assessment of the 10 players still in the game, ranked according to how likely I think they are to win it all. Feedback is welcome and encouraged - even Pedro’s. 1. Charlie – Has a strong alliance and seems to be calling the strategic shots. He’s a nicer version of China winner Todd Herzog. 2. Corrine – A key member of the Kota alliance. Corrine showed smarts and restraint by voting out Dan ahead of Susie. 3. Marcus – The Dan/Susie vote showed he’s the brawn of the Kota alliance, not the brains. His athletic ability will help him post-merge, but will also make him a target. 4. Bob – Playing a smart, quiet game. He’s a bit on the outside, socially, which will hurt him in the late going. 5. Sugar – All that time on Exile Island might actually help her. Nobody knows Sugar well enough to dislike her; she’s well fed and has the Idol. Now, she needs a strong alliance. 6. Ken – Orange County’s great hope looks much better now than after the first couple of episodes. The ouster of Ace showed him to be a player. His biggest problem is a lack of quality allies. 7. Randy – Not doing nearly as well as he thinks. The original Fang members dislike him, and the original Kota alliance probably is just using his vote. 8. Matty – Every season features someone who wants to be a player so badly that he keeps making stupid decisions. Matty is Dr. Sean 17.0. 9. Crystal – Too volatile and too athletically imposing to last much longer. 10. Susie – Just waiting for the ax at this point. She might have snuck through to the Final Four as the quiet hard-worker – as Lydia Morales did in Guatemala – but she has alienated too many others, notably Corrine.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:06 am
Voting out Dan instead of Suzie isn't looking so good now, is it?
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Askme_who_ur
Member
08-19-2006
| Friday, November 07, 2008 - 12:36 pm
Personally, I have rewatched ep 7 and I think Bob was robbed. I think Sugar went into the water before Bob did. would that have changed the outcome of the IC ? don't know but it could have. Rewatch the challenge if you can and see if I am right. Not sure why they called Sugar the winner of that round.
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