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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Costa, thanks again! I am totally off my game the last 2 weeks!!! I still havent even seen this, Bill's work had a party and we got home late.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I think the showmance was: Ace in love with himself.
lol

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Lots of surprises in last night's ep!

I LOL when JP, in talking about next week said "Fang, just like the old Fong..." His tone was so funny! It sounded like he was sneering when he said it!

This is a strange season! I like Bob the best. He may be the only one I like. I do think Crystal and Ken played well last night by getting Marcus out. I dislike Randy as a person, but as a player, I like him.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Kenny is a astute player. He's responsible for both Ace and Marc-ace going....that is a feat.

Kenny's definitely one of the better players this season but I'm not sure he did much to get rid of Marcus -- it looked like Crystal did most of the work to convince Susie. I'm not even sure why Kenny ever thought they'd get rid of Susie first.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm not a Susie fan but I think she did a stupid thing last night and put a huge target on her back doing so. She decided to align herself with a group of people who a) haven't done well in challenges, b) don't have the numbers, and c) she'll still be low man on the totem pole. Now was not the time to make a power move and change alliances.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Kenny's definitely one of the better players this season but I'm not sure he did much to get rid of Marcus

I think Ken is a major strategist, he may not be the one to implement the strategy. But, he clearly looks at the possibilities and comes up with a winning hand. I also think the producers aren't showing everything. I suspect Ken had his moments with Susie as well. After Crystal talked with her, I didn't think she would go for the switch.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Ken's a gamer, a champion gamer, which means he's a strategist. You can't be his caliber of a gamer and be weak on strategy. I agree we only see a snippet of what's going on between these folks.

I'm guessing next week will be the merge.

From what they showed yesterday Sugar has turned against Ken but I'm betting Ken will change that...well I'm hoping he'll change that.

As sweet as Sugar appears to be she doesn't seem to be an alpha personality type....upfront or behind the scenes.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Lil, you beat me to it and posted my exact thoughts about him being a professional gamer. Ken obviously thinks every strategical move through before making a decision.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, I was thinking the same think about what Bob said. Since it was Susie that he did not vote for last week, he was essentially saying he wished he had voter her out. The look on her face said she did not much appreciate it.

I am afraid that Susie is going to be left out no matter what she does. She is cannon fodder right now.

Did anyone notice how many times they showed the idol floating around in the bottle. Do you think it is going to wash up on shore and someone find it?

I think it would be funny if Sue did. She is far from my favorite, but I always feel sorry for the person who is low man in the alliance.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Crystal is playing a Dr Will type game. Good for her. I just hate how nasty she is at the voting booth

I hope all that final 3 talk isnt forshadowing that Susie stays that long...oh wait! on 2nd thougth I got her in the new pool I am in so yes that would be great news!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Costa, ITA about Susie though, bad timing. I also thought it was a dumb move to get rid of Marcus, what if there isnt a merge...the new Kota will lose like old Fong...thats always been their prob, they get rid of the strongest players too early

I want Bob and Sugar to the end!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Ken is smart. His remarks at TC last night were very targeted to show Suzie how much of a threat Marcus is.
and it helped that Bob said he made a mistake last week, Suzie had the 2nd highest votes last week, I think she figured it out.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Susie has now evened the numbers, so she did help herself -- the old Kota won't have the numbers to vote people off w/out her.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
No she hasn't. It's 5 Kota to 4 Fang. So she hasn't even the numbers out. She put a target on her back and if they merge next week, the 3 Kota folks over at the new Fang are not going to be happy with her.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think the Survivor team have rescued the idol and it will mysteriously "wash up" somewhere near one of the next challenges that involve water. They can't plant it at one of the camps (and not the other) but I bet they will plant it somewhere. Or it could be on the beach after a merge.

Susie has evened the numbers - there are 4 Kota, 4 Fong and 1 floater, her. Right now she is the most important person for both teams to woo, as long as no one else switches sides. Unfortunately for Susie, Ken and Crystal, it's possible that Mattie could switch.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
The not so bright thing about this move is that if the teams don't merge, the new Kota won't be able to win a challenge to save their (Survivor) lives.

What was that one year when they drove one team down to one person just that way?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think it's the new Fong that lost the member.

Not sure what year it was, but the team was called Pagong, I think. They occasionally use the word pagonged to talk about it.

Actually, thinking about it, it would almost be in the new-Kota's best interest to lose the next immunity challenge if there isn't a merge. If they are sure they can remove an old-Fong (Sugar or Mattie) and they trust that Bob would stay loyal to them after a merge, then getting rid of an old-Fong would give them the advantage after the merge, which must be coming very soon. If new-Fong lose, then Bob will almost certainly go, and old-Kota will be down one person to the old-Fong, down two with Susie.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
Susie doesn't seem to be playing the game right but she's still there. Not a fan but if she makes it through a couple of more tribals there may be more to Susie than I thought. LOL

I wonder if they find Crystal's behavior as abrasive as I do? I would have wanted her gone from day one but I have to remember how editing makes some look worse/ or better than others.
At first I didn't like Sugar or Mattie, I do now but not as much as Bob. I still want Bob to go to final three. His days may be numbered though. When he went to Kota my heart sank.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The thing that cracks me up... the one commonality between the team that always goes to tribal council? Crystal and Ken. Coincidence? I think not.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I thought Kota was yellow. The yellow team went to tribal council, right?

It's not the pagonging I'm thinking of - because they picked them off after the merge.

It's when one woman was left alone on her tribe after the rest were all gone. She then came back for an all stars version....

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, it was Kota that went. The newKota, with Crystal and Ken on their team. Black cloud meet Survivor. :-)

Stephenie was the one you're thinking of, but I can't remember what season that was.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
What exactly is happening with the idol floating in a bottle? I've seen that mentioned in several posts above. I had parent/teacher conferences until later in the evening last night...and was very sad to realize today that my DVR wasn't set to tape Survivor! So I missed the whole show last night. :-(

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
That's it, Costa. Stephanie. Thanks for being my memory!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Looked it up, it was the Ulong tribe in Survivor Palau that was reduced to just Stephenie, before she had to join the Koror team.

Also looked up the new teams. You guys are right, it was new-Kota that went to tribal council.

Kc, they didn't say what will happen to the floating idol, the last shot we saw of it was when it was still floating in the sea. If you wanted to watch the show online it's up at:
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 07, 2008 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Kc, when the two tribes met and thought they were merging, they instead had a feast and then divided up (random draw) into two new tribes. But during the feast, there was a piece of paper partially hidden under a bowl with a clue to another HII. Randy and Marcus decided to go look for it (Ken found it, though he'd try to keep it to himself, the note, that is, but Charlie outed him). Anyways, Randy ultimately found it (the easiest HII ever to find!). They put it on the table and pretty much everyone said no they didn't want it. It was almost like "I dare you to take it". In public everyone said no they didn't want it, but in confessionals people were dying cuz they really did. After the feast (this was before they split up into the two tribes) they decided to give the idol to the ocean, and Randy and Marcus walked out and tossed it way out. Later we saw the bottle bobbing in the water.