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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
CBS Misdirection Clues:

Two castaways are sent packing, leaving three to plead their case for the one million dollar prize and the title of sole survivor.

A shocking turn of events causes the castaways to scramble for new strategies in the moments before Tribal Council.

The fate of the final four rests in the hands of one castaway who reveals an outrageous decision at the most surprising Tribal Council yet.

The jury is faced with a million dollar decision after they question the last three castaways at the final Tribal Council.


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Might be of some importance to you guys:

Voting at last night's tribal council tally:

Bob - Voted for Crystal
Crystal - Voted for Matty
Ken - Voted for Matty
Matty - Voted for Crystal
Sugar - Voted for Crystal
Susie - Voted for Crystal

This tells us that Susie was in on the vote to cast out Crystal. Just as Sugar said, Susie will vote any way that Matty tells her to.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

Announcer: Sunday, on the Survivor Season Finale, they're the final five Survivors. Kenny, the video gamer.

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Kenny: I have been calling the shots.

Announcer: Bob, the challenge king.

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Bob: I'm the luckiest man in the world.

Announcer: Susie, who flew under the radar.

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Susie: Yes!

Announcer: Sugar, the sweet strategist.

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Sugar: I think I'm the lady of the hour.

Announcer: And Matty, always the physical threat.

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Matty: Good will prevail.


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Announcer: Who will be the ultimate Survivor? Don't miss the two hour season finale and the live reunion show, CBS, Sunday.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Jeff Probst blogs 'Survivor: Gabon' (episode 13)
Dec 12, 2008, 12:02 AM | by Jeff Probst

Categories: 'Survivor', About Last Night, Reality TV, Television, Things That Are Awesome!

Well, as the year comes to a close, it's time to start looking at award-worthy performances. Here's my vote for Best Performance by a Duo in a Reality Competition Series About Adventure That Takes Place in Exotic Locations and is Hosted by a Dashing Fella With a Keen Way About Him.

Bob: (clearly distressed over lying to Kenny) If I win the next immunity I'll give it to you.

Kenny: (Long Pause) Okay.

And...scene.

I don't know who should win the acting award, but both Bob and Kenny gave stellar performances. I don't believe Bob was sorry for one second. He is playing the game. Just like Kenny. On the other hand, Kenny's sad "poor me" performance was so understated, so restrained that it almost warrants a spot at the final tribal council.

Bob was never going to give him the necklace, but damn, I do appreciate Kenny's bravado. Plead for the necklace while you're planning Bob's blindside. Awesome. Kenny is setting himself up for a major ass whuppin'...or a million dollars. I love this kid. Love him.

I miss Crystal already. I really do. She's fun to pick on, and she always, and I mean always, had something to say at tribal council. The woman was gold. Not bronze. Not silver. Gold. As in gold medalist.

Favorite moment of the episode: Crystal trying so hard to prove her physical prowess that at the end of the reward challenge she actually attempted to dunk a ball on a four foot goal...that she towered over...and still missed.

Second favorite moment: Watching Crystal try to make her way through the immunity challenge. We couldn't include every moment she went off the course, otherwise the challenge would still be going. To her credit, Crystal has always had a sense of humor about her lack of ability in challenges. Doesn't change the fact that she sucked. She did.

Side note: When Bob was choosing two people to join him on reward, I said, "Two's fun, three's a party." It was an innocent comment. My friend, Serena, felt there was a sexual connotation to the comment. I was appalled. Those kind of dirty and inappropriate thoughts simply do not occur to me. When I am hosting, I am focused. Laser beam precision. Tunnel vision. The thought that somehow I had a Freudian slip that would reveal the truth of what I'm really thinking about out there is simply silly. Now, had it been my other friend, Alexis, who said it, it might have some validity; she's a bit of a psych job, so in an odd way her thinking often makes sense. Yes, I know I Just mentioned two women in the same sentence. Doesn't mean anything. Okay, moving onto the next position, sorry I mean topic.

Sugar is a factor in this game. The sweet little pin-up model is very close to crying her way into the final. Who would ever think she would still be here this long? Not me. Never. How does it happen season after season? She wasn't even picked when they ranked their tribes. She wasn't picked! Then again, Bob was picked very late, so maybe all it means is that Marcus isn't as brilliant as he claims!! Ah-ha!!

Okay, fine. Another gross exaggeration on my part. Marcus actually had the highest IQ of everyone this season. If you want to know who had the second highest IQ, watch the reunion show. I think you will be surprised.

No, I've never taken the IQ test we give them. Because ignorance is bliss. No, I don't feel the need. Just back off. What? Why? That's crazy, I don't have anything to prove. I get paid whether I'm smart or not. Stop it. Go. Would you just go. I have to finish my blog.

Sorry about that. My inner voice – drives me nuts sometimes.

So, as we head into the finale, we are down to five: Sugar, Susie, Kenny, Matty, and Bob.

Sugar is in an excellent spot to make it to the final vote. I'll give her credit. She has done a very good job of staying in this game and staying out of the way. She's survived a record number of days on Exile, she handled the power of the immunity idol beautifully, and she has earned her right to be in the final five. She could easily make it to the final vote.

Susie is a question mark for me. She's riding coattails a bit, for sure, but she has done a good job of offering up her vote to the right people at the right time, and that has kept her out of the line of fire. Don't be surprised if she makes it to the final because everyone thinks they can beat her at the vote.

Matty is a favorite. Has been from day one. I'm so happy he's still in the game. I just like how he wears his heart on his sleeve. Can he win? Yes. Can he make it to the end? Very difficult. He's an obvious target.

Bob is another favorite of mine. Again, from day one. I like his straight-ahead approach, and I have a huge soft spot for Maine. Can he win? Yes. Can he get to the end? It's gonna be tough. He will probably have to win his way there through immunity challenges, otherwise I think they'll take him out. He has too many former tribemates on the jury.

Kenny - I cannot believe Kenny is still in this game. I would have lost my house betting against him making it this far. He has an uphill battle if he's going to win because he has made a ton of enemies. But if he gets to the final with the right person or people, it could happen. Kenny could win this game.

I'll say it right now. All things considered, I'm happy with this final five. There are three people I would be happy to see win and two people that if they win, I'll pretend I'm happy and quickly begin promoting next season.

Remember, the big finale is this Sunday. A two-hour finale followed by the live reunion show where all these knuckleheads will be back together, and you can see who looks good and who looked better on the island.

Now to prove to you that I read your comments, I will answer a few questions:

Where did Bob get the beads to make the immunity necklace…? You can bet I'll be asking him that at the reunion show.

Why did I throw Bob's fake immunity idol in the fire? Because that is what you do when someone plays a fake immunity idol! What, are you new? I totally understand that it was a work of art, and yes, it pained me to do it, but...is this an art exhibit or Survivor? Get over it. He can make another one. And if you want to see what's left of it, tune into the reunion show. Maybe I fished it out of the fire for him...or maybe I'll be wearing it around my neck...or maybe I'll just give it to Serena and call it a day.

Regarding loved ones – there is clearly no right or wrong answer. Those of you who hate the loved ones episodes have miserable lives. Those of us who cry and enjoy the loved ones episodes for their outpouring of emotion are beautiful, loving, wonderful human beings without whom the world would be a dark and dreary place. Welcome to the light, Dalton Ross.

To Dr. Zenith – thanks for the casting ideas, but I have to comment on the assertions that you and especially David Ellen (David, you made the blog!) continue to make: that we manipulate the game so that our favorites can win. Is the medication you're currently taking prescribed or do you buy it on the streets? If we could dictate who would win each season, then the following people never would have won: Tina in Australia, Vecepia in Marquesas, that soft-core porno dude in Thailand, Jenna in the Amazon, Sandra in Pearl Islands, Amber in All-Stars, Earl in Fiji, and Parvati in Fans vs Favorites! All of those just listed people definitely deserved to win because they played the best game, but that doesn't mean they would have been our first choice to win. We would have picked more "colorful" winners. Plain and simple. I'm kind of stumped that people still believe this stuff.

Oh, for the record, they don't have toilets or toilet paper, showers or soap, or make-up, or beds, or secret food stashes, or anything else that would make it more tolerable. The game is real. The game is hard.

To "JeffProbstRocks" – you can come over and watch Survivor at my house. Don't hate those poker chip-throwing friends of yours; envy is difficult, try to understand. That's what I do.

Once and for all – the final three vs final two debate. It's a matter of choice. Personally I believe that when you have three people in the final you have a better opportunity for a good winner because you cannot simply win the final immunity challenge and then take the least liked person with you to the final vote. For instance, had we planned a final three in Fans vs Favorites, Cirie would have won and everybody would have been happy. But we had a final two planned. So, David Ellen, if we were master manipulators, why not make it a final three and let Cirie win? Enough already. That's just my opinion. For crying out loud, get over it.

And for those of you who don't like us switching up the tribes because it screws you up in your Survivor pool, how about this...no switches next season. Straight Survivor. Is that what you want? Two tribes. No switch. One merge. Final 2. Okay, fine. Done. I'll call CBS and tell them I've made a decision. Just don't blame me when the dude from 'N Sync is hosting next season.

See ya Sunday at the live show!

Panda
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I am really excited for this!
I have to say I am pretty darn pleased with the F5-each one true Survivors of the game, making exciting moves and making it great to watch.

even if you like one over the other-it was still good!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
wow best TC yet to come??!!!! I think this year there has been great TCs so I cant wait!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Pictures from over at Survivor Blows that somebody captured from a YouTube.com video. I'm seeing it there before anywhere else, and right now Survivor Phoenix seems to be down (at least, for me).

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Auntiemike
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I wonder how much air time Jeff will give Corinne on the Reunion show. I hope she and Randy get very little!

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Well, at least, Bob wearing red is explained now !

My guess is the 'outrageous decision' refers to Sugar.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay.......please allow my boggled mind to wander.

Right after Jeff's blog for last night's show, there is an exclusive deleted scene from the season. Supposedly it is suppose to be a deleted scene from the show we have just seen. Here's the link to watch the deleted scene, but what's throwing me is that Matty only mentions him sleeping by the fire outside and Sugar inside the hut, barracading herself in after they hear sounds. No mention of Susie, Bob or Kenny ... which made me question it. In the article just following by Dalton Ross, at the end he calls it a deleted scene from last night, but then a little earlier in his article he called it "a preview of things to come".

Jeff says in his Blog that there is an F3. But, there have been postings throughout the season that it is only an F2 this time. Some of the posters at other sites are thinking it might be F5, then F4, then F3 faces the jury and one gets voted out by the jury. Then the voting is just between an F2. I'm just wondering if the F2 wound up being Sugar and Matty and that deleted scene was to tease us with.

Here's the link. If it goes straight to the video clip .... great. If not, if it goes to Jeff's Blog, pan down to the bottom where the video is and click on it. Will be curious to see what you guys think.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/12/jeff-probst-b-1.html

Rbk10
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08-12-2005

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rbk10 a private message Print Post    
Survivor Gabon Ep 14 / Finale Preview

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izoYGiFWp8

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, December 12, 2008 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
"what's throwing me is that Matty only mentions him sleeping by the fire outside and Sugar inside the hut, barracading herself in after they hear sounds. No mention of Susie, Bob or Kenny ..."

I think that was when Bob took Kenny and Crystal to the reward and Susie was at Exile. That was the night that Matty and Sugar were alone at camp.

Seamonkey
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I agree.. I watched the video and never doubted it was the night Matty and Sugar spent in camp while Susie was on exile and the others were communing with the gorillas.

And we know it is Final Three this year so it doesn't mean Matty and Sugar are final two (though that would be fine with me!)

Alaginger
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Friday, December 12, 2008 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oh........thank goodness you guys figured that out. I needed a nap.........took one......came back..........and, TADA!!!, you have set me straight. Now I can get on with the rest of it.....thanks Mama and Sea!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
For what it's worth:

Survivor's Olympian Predicts a Male Winner
Dec 12, 2008 05:06 PM ET by Tim Molloy
Crystal Cox, Survivor: Gabon

Crystal Cox, the latest Survivor: Gabon contestant to be sent home, talked with TVGuide.com about her experience on the show and prediction for Sunday's finale, in which she'll be among the judges who votes on a final winner. She won't make a prediction except to say he or she will be a he: Ken Hoang, Matty Whitmore, or Bob Crowley.

Roxip
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Well, that doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out...neither Susie nor Sugar are liked by the jury and they really haven't done that much to prove they are worthy of being Survivor, except for having outstayed. Sugar has made a few moves that have benefited her in the long run (getting rid of Ace is one of the biggest) and Susie has managed to stay under the radar, but if one of them win it will definitely be a case of voting against someone hated more...and is there anyone left that anybody likes at all?

Kookliebird
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
If Bob is there, to me, he would be the clear winner.

Between Matty & Kenny, I would say that Kenny was the more strategic player but if they don't 'like' him, Matty would get the vote.

I suspect that Charlie, Corrine, Randy & Marcus would probably vote the same (i.e if Bob is there, they would vote for him). Charlie may stray to Kenny or Matty, but I think that those 4 will determine the ultimate winner.

Pamy
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
agreed and because of that Sugar/Susie are screwed. after last nite even Crystal wont vote for Sugar

Askme_who_ur
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
I have heard several say, Crystal left the game on the field, so why wouldn't she vote for Sugar ? Sugar is the one who took her out and people have voted for that person before.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Sugar has played a great game (esp from a viewer's perspective) but unfortunately for her, I bet most of the jury doesn't even know the half of it, or would believe it if she told them. Corrine is probably poisoning Charlie and Marcus against her. And of course, Randy would never vote for her ...

It's a no brainer that Susie couldn't beat any of the guys.

Pamy
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 5:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I think Crystal felt betrayed by Sugar, so even though she will leave game at field and wont be angry she will not vote for Sugar.

I cant wait for this jury questioning!!!

Bonbonlover
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Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I have loved watching this season!! But I could have done without seeing the French Press a few weeks back (whatever happened to the days of Cowboy coffee?) and last week seeing Susie's canteen with a big 'ole smilie face A La the 70's ...




Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
If I'm Sugar, I would have left Crystal in the game and taken out Matty. The 4 on the jury did not like Crystal. As it is, it appeared to me that they kept voting out people they didn't like rather than think who they could win against. Maybe Suzie is the one they think they can win against. IMO Bob would have the jury vote hands down, next would be Matty, then Kenny, then Suzie/Sugar as a tossup.

Only one more day to go!

Tvclubber
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Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvclubber a private message Print Post    
Crystal may vote for who she believes played the best game. If so, she may try and influence some of the high-school jury members like she did during the game when she took Kenny aside and changed his mind about who to evict.

Of the five survivors still in the game, I'm happy with any of them winning. Even so, my final three picks are Susie, Sugar, and Bob.

As an aside: I saw a glimpse of Crystal's soft side during the family episode. When she told the camera how happy she was to see her husband, her face softened, her eyes danced, and she smiled outside and inside. At that moment, I thought that was the real Crystal--not the game-playing Crystal. Her post-eviction comments and her jury-house arrival appear to feature the same woman. Good for her for being the adult among bratty children!

And major kudos to Randy for being semi-nice to her when she arrived at the jury house. (What's with the Mohawk?)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I absolutely cannot believe how Marcus, Charlie, Randy and Corinne treated Crystal at the Ponderosa. They have to know that they are being filmed and the public will see this. It's a game, for Pete's sake. I'm so disgusted with them this morning. Here's the link....you can view and make your own decision.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/ponderosa.php