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Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 10:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
I loved seeing Joel go!!! Made my night!!

ITA!!! As much as I wanted to see Chet go, I REALLY wanted to see Joel GONE!

It was kind of funny because when we (my sister and I) were watching them pick their tribes, the very FIRST thing I said was "Ozzy please do NOT pick Joel!!" and sure enough he was the first guy picked. Ugh!! I was so mad. I did not want the person I dislike the most to be on the same team as my favorite. I'm just glad he's gone and I don't have to watch him on my TV screen anymore!

I have no doubt that Chet will be out next time that team loses though.

I really wanted to see Jason on Ozzy's team. I was frustrated when Ozzy picked Eric over Jason. They are both similar in looks, they have the long hair and skinny body, and they both see themselves as "comparable" to Ozzy. I just really like Jason; I think he's a strong player and IMO he is more likeable than Eric.

Now, while I didn't originally mind when Ozzy made the fake II, I also didn't originally think it would make a fool out of Jason. Man out of everyone ...why him?? I feel so bad. Jason is my favorite player after Ozzy and I hate that he "thinks" he has the real II. He is going to be so embarrassed.....I am humiliated for him! I hope he finds out right away that it is fake because he could very well be a target (he was the next target in his last tribe) and I don't want him to depend on the fake II, only to find himself voted out.

I'll tell you this, after this episode, I was so tempted to peek at spoilers for the F3. I did last year (although it was on accident) and when I found out Todd was in F3 I was able to enjoy the season stress free!! It was much easier to enjoy the shows when I didn't have to worry that Todd would be voted out. I have been known to stop watching Survivor if a favorite of mine has been voted off. Like S:Amazon, I liked Dave "the rocket scientist" A LOT, so when he got booted I boycotted that season. Also on, S:Guatamala, I was crazy about "the soft-spoken" Brandon, and when he got voted out(for no good reason!!!!) I threw a huge tantrum and refused to watch the rest of the season.

I really don't want that to happen with Jason. So that is why I almost want to see spoilers. If he (by some chance) ends up in the F3 it would put my mind at ease...and if he doesn't...well then I can "prepare" myself that he will not get to the end....yeah, my sisters says I get "way to into these shows".

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 11:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Amanda said she pulled the Shark out of their fishing net....or at least that's how I heard it.

Hooters
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08-26-2006

Thursday, March 06, 2008 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hooters a private message Print Post    
Me too Nick. Also, I screamed in shock & happiness when Joel was voted out. He has the nastiest attitude I've seen on this show in a long time. You go Cirie...you ARE an allstar!!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I was happy, though I do want Chet to be gone, too.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The "Goo" reference was to Chet.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Yey! I didn't like Joel, too much brawn but other than muscle I thought he was actually a liability not an asset to the team. He was so certain that what he said was the only right way to do anything.

The fans on that tribe are at a big disadvantage now though, because next time I think they're still going to want Chet off, not a favourite.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Thanks so much everyone! I really wish I could watch that episode. Darn my VCR....ok, it had to be my fault most likely since it was left on, but I'd rather blame the VCR! LOL

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 1:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
All I can say about Joel is that <100> from day one he let everyone know he was after the "weak ones."

He was openly rude and arrogant to several of the tribe members.

This was just another case of a reality contestant having a sense of entitlement. He really felt the weak ones had no right to be there and should just be satisfied to leave when he decided they were no longer useful. He did not seem to have any realization that others did not come out there to be his "cannon fodder."

And Chet and Cirie were right about the immunity challenge. He did nothing to help them win. And in the reward challenge, he blamed Chet, but if you remember, he fell down himself a couple of times.

It was probably stupid to get rid of him from a team standpoint, but he made no effort to connect with anyone but his own little group. I think the tribe will be mentally stronger with him gone. Physically, that is a different story.

So here he was trying to convince everyone to vote out the weak ones, but as Cirie said, "I am included in the weak ones."

And you know what they say about Karma. She is not a nice lady.

Chupey
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07-03-2005

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chupey a private message Print Post    
Cirie is amazing! I love that girl. I would love to see Cirie and Ozzy facing off at the end.

SO glad Joel is gone. He was getting meaner by the minute.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I would vote for Ozzy in that cased but I love Cirie too.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Can't say I disagree with Joel's characterization of Chet, but Chet survives because he is surrounded by strong women. They are not physically strong, but Cirie and Tracy sure are strong-willed!

Can you imagine how shocked the other team will be when they see that Joel was voted out?

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I was glad to see Joel go not only because I can't stand his attitude but because I felt he would soon decide that Ozzy was too much of a threat and want him gone. Better for Ozzy to get rid of Joel.

I also wanted Ozzy to pick Jason over Joel and over Eric.

I hated Cirie for getting Yaoman out but I do have to give her credit for playing a good game so far. I also realized I had just dismissed her in the beginning because she is an out of shape older woman (like me!!) and how unfair that was of me and I give her kudos for proving she does deserve to be there and IS an all star! That said I am still rooting for Ozzy, James, Parvati and Amanda. I'd be happy with any of them winning. I know many people do not care for Parvati but I've always liked her for some reason.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I did feel a tad bit sorry for Chet getting the you know what beat out of him by his own tribe mate but I lmao too.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I admire Cirie tremendously for flipping things the way she did. A lot of players would have just said, "Oh, well, that's the way it goes." But Cirie went for it and made it work. It shows that players who aren't as physically able can still use their smarts to get ahead.

I'm so glad Joel is gone, I know it wasn't smart for the team from the physical challenge point of view, but he came across as pretty mean-spirited. I don't like that at all.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I was very happy to see Joel voted out. He was outplayed and outwitted.

I find Chet's play frustrating and I can see why others on his tribe might find it frustrating. However, he didn't deserve to be beat up and dragged through the mud and slammed into wooden posts.

Simply astonishingly great play by the Favorites. Cirie in particular has dominated the game. They are all showing how much they have learned from their previous experience and they are full value for it.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I'm baffled as to why Chet was being lambasted by Ozzie for "not getting up" during the reward challenge when he fell. I dunno Ozzie, did you watch a different challenge than I did? Chet got yanked into a pole, yanked off his feet, and when he did try to get up, Joel yanked him around some more so he could never get enough leverage to even try to get up.

Oh, and Joel, I bet it was Chet's fault when, at the start of your round, you....yes I said YOU Joel....stood in one place and swayed from side to side while the pair from the opposing tribe ran right up to you.

I worked with a girl who was a bit like Joel. She'd spend all of her energy targeting and complaining about someone she deemed as useless, and she never wasted an opportunity to tell anyone and everyone around just how useless that person was. Personally, I think if Joel had taken even a fraction of the energy he spent on dissing Chet, and spent it on concentrating on how to be a better competitor himself, he might have actually ended up as an asset to his tribe!

Joel, there's a reason your tribe kept Chet over you. You need to look up the word introspection in the dictionary. It might come in handy some day.

Good riddance!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
... but at the end of the day, Chet had nothing to do with them losing the challenge. There was no way that Chet could have contributed anything to being Joel's partner to help them win that reward. Joel was 100% in charge of that team and with Joel it was either his way or the highway.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
First, I think it's unfair to say Joel went after weak people from the start. If that were true, Kathy and Chet would have been gone, not Mike and whatshername. Joel was just as conflicted about weakness vs. gameplay, as I'm sure any other contestant is in that game.



As for Ozzy ragging on Chet for not getting up in the challenge Who, we probably DID see a different challenge than they did. I mean, they don't show the whole minute, and they show each team for that whole minute, so maybe there are some moments we don't see, where Chet was more like a bag of potatoes, especially in the first run he and Joel were on. Maybe Chet got tired, and barely kept going, then in the second run Joel was annoyed and wasn't going to let Chet slow them down again. Just a thought, considering we don't get to see all the race footage.


I liked Joel, probably because I like the big burly men, but he was HUNGRY to win, and the moment that conflicts with my Ozzy, then I say byebye.

I most definitely give kudos to Cirie for orchestrating another eviction. Her and Tracy are great, because they SEEM weak, but they are two of the smartest players out there! I also think she has a knack for talking people into things. Notice she didn't take Tracy and barrel over to Ozzy and say "we need to get rid of Joel!" She took it to one person, saw how it was received, then took it to Ozzy respectfully, and let them think about it. I think she did a great job last night, and she has SORT OF redeemed herself in my eyes from her Yau-man eviction where I thought she acted snotty.

Trueheart, I almost thought you were going to spoil us with your talk of the other thread!! I know how it feels to try to resist the spoiler area for as long as you can, and then when it's too stressful, you crack and go over there. I haven't hit that moment yet, so I was scared to know!! LOL

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I agree, Eeyore, if Joel wanted Chet out, he had two previous opportunities, but he chose to make his tribe weaker instead by eliminating strong players. So he got what he deserved.

I also never noticed him doing particularly well in the challenges, and based on the favorites' reaction to the fans' camp, he apparently wasn't the greatest leader in getting things done around camp.

Momof3fl
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02-25-2008

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Momof3fl a private message Print Post    
ITA!!! As much as I wanted to see Chet go, I REALLY wanted to see Joel GONE! hi from a lurker lol i usely dont have any thing to say but had to say i so agree with you he mad me so mad when he said he didnt care that Cheyt hit his head i dont like Chet eith but my goodness dont be <76>

Momof3fl
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02-25-2008

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Momof3fl a private message Print Post    
I hated Cirie for getting Yaoman me too love that funny little man

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Another point that strikes me.....Eliza got picked LAST! I seriously don't know what that girl does off camera, but for even the FANS not to pick her, makes me wonder what we're not seeing. How is this girl so unlikeable!?!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Yeah, what Eeyore said about Eliza... I don't get that. I don't dislike Eliza nearly as much as I dislike Parvati.


Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Shark caught in net was probably already dead. As I understand it sharks have to keep moving in order to stay alive.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, March 07, 2008 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Well, I do agree with Cirie that Chet is expendable anytime.

I wonder how big of a mistake it was for Ozzy to tell James and Parvati about the HII now that they are on different tribes. They didn't show any pact about them sticking together if they were going to mix the tribes.

I hope Jonathan's leg/infection is being hyped for the next show and isn't so bad he has to leave!