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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:45 am
Costa, yeah, I was a little surprised by that RC, too. The only thing I could think of was that they did NOT want Alexis or Natalie to get the HII. the editing was kind of awkward, so I get the feeling that something else was going on there.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:51 am
I thought I read somewhere that Cirie wanted Alexis to win the RC because Alexis had promised to take her along on the reward? Did I hallucinate that?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 11:56 am
Yeah, here it is. It was in the interview with Alexis posted previously:
quote:Alexis: It probably would have been a better strategic move, but we actually talked about it. I was in an alliance with Amanda, so I thought sending her to Exile was a smart move. It was a given that if I won [the Reward Challenge] that Natalie was going with me because the family visit day is hands-down the best Reward. We've been so deprived of seeing our loved ones. So I knew that, and I kind of made a deal during the challenge with Cirie that if she didn't cut my chord than I would take her with me. So I took her.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 12:25 pm
Hunh. I wonder if Amanda knew that. I wish they'd shown us that, cause it looked mighty awk-ward! And Lex (who is also totally AF&F), I know what Cirie said. But I was trying to remember whether there were any tribals with MORE than F4 who had to do the fire building. Rather than the stone pulling. Seems to me there were more than four people left for the fire building tie breaking thing...
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 1:24 pm
Wasn't there a fire building challenge earlier on in the season where Tom the firefighter won? I feel like I remember Stephanie winning the fire challenge against someone, and she didn't last to F4, IIRC. I always thought the stones and fire challenges were just based on whatever the producers had decided for the season. Like, the tiebreak rules change every season. Years ago it used to be based on who had more previous votes against them from previous tribal councils. What ever happened to THAT method? I liked that one, as I think it encouraged people to vote a little less like a block, so that some front runners could have votes cast against them come to haunt them later in the game.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 1:34 pm
Never mind, I looked it up, and it was because Ulong only had 2 members, that Steph and Bobby Jon had a fire challenge to decide who went home.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 2:21 pm
I seem to recall an Asian girl, or a dark haired girl, anyways. But I can't remember what season. I think they did the number of votes thing only a couple of times. It then seemed like folks were voting for people, just to be sure to have them have at least a vote or two. So I think they then went to the rock draw. But I haven't seen the rock draw in the last several times there was a tie, so it surprised me that Cirie mentioned it.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 2:41 pm
There was a fire building challenge during the 13th season when the F4 was Yul, Ozzy, Sundra and Becky. It was between Sundra and Becky as to who would be F3, and Ozzy and Yul set it up that way on purpose (the tie) because they didn't want to be the ones to decide who got F3. Neither Becky nor Sundra could get their fire lit. I think JP actually gave them fire so the challenge could move forward to whoever got the rope to burn first which was Becky, lol. It was very funny.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 3:59 pm
I remember that Hermie. It lasted for hours and everyone was falling asleep waiting for them to start the fire. So is it safe to assume it is a rock in the bag until it is down to the Final Four (with the exception of the season with Ozzy and Stephanie because they were the only two Ulong members left?)
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 4:35 pm
Based on comments made in the game and in post-game interviews by players over the last few seasons, I believe the Purple Rock has been in place for many seasons (since at least S9) as a tiebreaker when there are six or more people at TC. When there are less people, they use a challenge like fire-starting. According to Probst, the only time the Rock was actually used (at F4 in S4), it was a mistake. They had intended that the IC winner and the players with the tied votes would be safe in the Purple Rock tiebreaker. This doesn't really work at F4 because that would only leave one person to draw rocks, but they didn't realize it until it was too late. It's possible they've had the "correct" form of the Rock tiebreaker since S5. As Cirie demonstrated, it's a very strong incentive against having tied votes at TC so I'm not surprised that we have never seen it.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 4:40 pm
In Palau, Tom and Ian were both willing to force a tie and draw rocks the week that they learned Gregg was going to turn on Tom, and they managed to flip Katie to their side with the threat of the rocks.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 4:47 pm
What season was "Pappy" on? (I think that's his name.) I know he was on one of the very early seasons. He's the one I remember being the first victim of the rock in the bag. He didn't have any votes against him, but because there was a tie-breaker, they all drew rocks and he ended up going home.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 4:48 pm
Marquesas, season 4. One of my favorite seasons! 
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 6:56 pm
I can't wait to get back to the library tomorrow and see more of the Ponderosa clips! My little whimpy system at home can't handle them -
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 7:37 pm
About the viewers choice bonus million...I thought about it for a while (yes I may need a hobby. The reason I like that idea is because often my fave doesn't win piddly and they were the ones that had me tune in each week....so they deserve something.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Monday, May 05, 2008 - 7:47 pm
Tntitanfan said: My little whimpy system at home can't handle them - TNT, can you please check my personal folder where I left you info as to another way to get the clips? I never could get them to work on either of my computers, even the brand new laptop. Just finally got to see them a couple of days ago.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 7:34 am
Just realized I responded to a post that was not addressed to me. I am sometimes totally clueless.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 1:45 pm
I just caught up on all the Ponderosa clips.. was interested to see the one where they went to Peleliu. My dad was in the Navy in WWII but was in a small group that went in with the First Marine Division and he was there. It was clearly among his most vivid memories. The clips were interesting. Also interesting that all of them are gaining SO much weight.. someone even mentioned going above their starting weight!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, May 06, 2008 - 2:00 pm
My Dad went to Truk during WWII also. He has wonderful memories of it (it was very late in the War so he wasn't involved in any of the fighting, thank goodness).
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Wednesday, May 07, 2008 - 7:57 pm
Hey Folks, I know several people have commented that it would be great to see a Survivor done in the cold country. Last night I was moaning to my Sis that it would be so hard after the Finale and wait until The Amazing Race begins. Sis said she had started watching a new series on Discovery Channel that recently started: The Alaska Experiment http://dsc.discovery.com/tv/alaska/alaska-week.html It's got 3 groups of people in different locations in Alaska having to survive off the land. Not set up like Survivor with Jeff P, but pretty interesting. Turned out it was on lastnight, I only caught about 25 minutes, then after another show, it replayed again and I caught it all. WAS pretty interesting, the people's stress levels and interactions. Worth checking out IMO.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, May 08, 2008 - 4:39 am
Bisc, I caught a few minutes of the Alaska Experiment the other night. It is very interesting. I'm going to try to catch the entire epi this weekend.
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