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Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I was disappointed Cirie lost, but I was thrilled to see that next season they are finally going HD.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I felt bad for Cirie last night in the reunion show. I really think she was the most undervalued contestant. She had a huge hand in many of the evictions and at the same time didn't really upset anybody. I was very surprised she wasn't even in the top three for the viewers' vote, she seemed so disappointed that it hadn't worked out and just knowing a lot of people respected and enjoyed her game play would have made her feel a lot better I think.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Amanda didn't have a chance to analyze her final tribal council performance in China, because this season was shot before China's finale aired, so she didn't know what the outcome was. I also think that she is introverted and does better one-on-one than in a group; those she was close to seemed to really like her, while the others thought she was cold or standoffish. Shy people often come across that way to others.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Amanda votes for Parv?????????????

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Good points, Merrysea. Parvati definitely comes across as more extroverted than Amanda.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I find it odd that Amanda gets tagged by so many as 'fake.' I think she is a very authentic person. Even Cirie did not seem to think that she was faking the tears

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I only saw snips of the reunion show, what was that about somebody dating Ryan O. from Pearl Islands?

Nerovh, always have to preface by saying "IIRC" -- my memory can be BAD. Mary from this season is dating him. IIRC, pretty serious.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Mary mentioned last night that Ryan proposed after three days, and she was sporting a rock on her left hand.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
OMG! I was just looking at cast bios. Kathleen is very local person. (Guess I don't know her though.) She's from the neighboring suburb to the west.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Merry beat me to the punch about Amanda not knowing whether or not she won China. Amanda said after filming China, she was home for a few weeks when she left for Fans v. Favorites. But what is ironic, is after she was finished with filming Fans v. Favorites, she loses at China's reunion show but didn't know whether she won Fans v. Favorites.



Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Color, she also mentioned (and her accent is) being from WI. Not sure if she grew up there and moved here or viseversa...

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Sharinia ~ I find Amanda fake in that she had no problem taking part in the planning of stabbing people in the back with Parv and yet would then later act like she would never dream of doing such a thing when in fact she did. That doe-eyed denial only goes so far. How anyone could watch this show for 17 seasons and not know that it rains more then 3 minutes a day is just baffling.

Chet could learn alot from Yao Man who also did not have the strength and power but made up for it through effort. That's why he had people's respect, Chet.

I'm looking forward to next season and hoping that all cast members will not only be NEW but be intelligent enough to go into it knowing it's a tough haul.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Julie, bio says she lives here now.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Sharinia ~ I find Amanda fake in that she had no problem taking part in the planning of stabbing people in the back with Parv and yet would then later act like she would never dream of doing such a thing when in fact she did. That doe-eyed denial only goes so far.

thanks Kappy. guess I just see it differently ... I really don't recall her stabbing anyone in the back

Parvati clearly turned on Ozzy & James. Amanda was completely out of the loop, blindsided and not very happy about it. Parv also made an alliance with Nat & Alexis, and kinda pulled Amanda in, but Amanda never asked for that alliance, didn't even want it.

Alexis voted against Amanda...its not a 'backstab' in my book that Amanda was holding onto the HII. Didn't Nat talk about getting Amanda out, too? Erik was also scheming to get her out and she got wind of it, he also voted against her the previous wk when she had the HII...how is it a backstab when she took him out. Nat is the one who lied to Jason; Amanda had no alliance with him. Amanda stayed loyal to Cirie to the f3, never promised her f2.

Who would you say that she back stabbed?


Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Also, this morning on Fox & Friends they were talking about Survivor and how none of the internet feeders (a/k/a fans) were pleased that Parvati won. Evidently, she's not well-liked on other sites either.


Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think it was pretty apparent last night, Lex (who is so AF&F). The applause as Jeff was reading the votes was almost desultory for Parvati (as if someone was dancing up and down and waving a "cheer now" sign for her), while the applauce for Amanda was quite definitely louder.

It also seemed odd, but I swear Jeff spent more time talking to the others than he did to the winner. Heck, I think he even spent more time talking to Fairplay!

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
On Ponderosa, Alexis said she was really wanting Cirie to win. I was kind of surprised by that, as I assumed Parvati would have been her first choice among all 3.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Bitter?? I didn't see bitterness from Cirie at all.

I saw it in her "Day after" interview on the website, when she explains why she didn't accept Amanda's reasoning for choosing Parvati (and I think this was before the Q/A at the final TC). She was also confident that she would have won the jury vote so that probably makes it tougher to accept what happened.

Anyway, I don't think there's anything wrong with Cirie being a little bitter towards Amanda. I don't think Amanda was being honest when she claimed that Cirie wasn't at the bottom of their F3 alliance.

I agree with those who think Cirie deserved to win the "Player of the Season" vote. Parvati made the bigger moves and deserved to win the game itself, but Cirie deserved a consolation prize more than James. She made so many little moves, some of which weren't even shown on TV. According to Jason, Cirie was the one who sent him off on an errand so that Natalie could search his bag for the Idol. In one of the website clips, Cirie gets Natalie to overeat so she wouldn't do as well in the F4 Immunity Challenge.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
I thought Cirie was the master player this season. It was too bad she didn't win. I would have loved the see her with the jury questions. I thought she had a good chance to win the final challenge. Literally, the way the ball bounces.

Didn't Amanda not receive any votes in China, coming in 3rd place? I'm pretty sure that there was 1 Survivor that got all the jury votes, which one was it?

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
I see it just as you did Sharinia..re:Amanda

I was wondering what was up with Alexis...being all snarky towards Amanda when she herself was voting Amanda out that TC.. so what's her problem with Amanda turing the tables and voting her out instead? And now, maybe she realizes that it was in fact Parv that got her sent packing...as I recall Amanda wanted to vote out Natalie..

And Eliza, that vote really threw me, so surprised she went with Parv..

Both Cirie and Parv would have taken each other had they won the last immunity...Amanda shouldn't have felt so badly... but I get it.

Very disappointing end...and I think Jeff knew that...he barely talked to Parv at all..

Nice to see Ozzy & Amanda still together. What a cute couple.

Oh and...I didn't get the stuff Ozzy was saying at the reunion, thought he was being weird.. but yeah, it now makes sense, his jab at Denise about scrubbing toilets... I bet Amanda is still smartin over her to-do with Denise in China...Denise played on her emotions and Amanda started to crack...and I really liked Denise up to that point...

Felt pretty bad for Cirie, tough to be tossed out the last day when you know you could of had a good chance at winning...

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Exactly Costa (who is also so AF&F). When they first announced this season would be Fans v. Faves, I could not believe Parvati would be considered a favorite. (But as everyone points out, they had a hard time getting some Faves to go back for a second time.) I think what turns me off the most about her is her "flirting" her way through the game. It would be one thing if she was as "h.o.t." as she thought she was, but this is outwit, outlast and outplay - not "out-flirt." I think that's why I have such a hard time taking her seriously as a true gamer when she's flirting with both men and evidently women (according to Natalie).

FWIW - I must be the only one here who didn't think James deserved to win $100k a second time around. He didn't deserve it the first time he won it (after that boneheaded move), and he really didn't do anything this season worthy of winning it. I wish I could see in him what everyone else sees in him. I'm sure he's a nice guy, but he's not worthy of winning $100k two seasons in a row.


Sugar
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08-15-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
How were the favs cast? I didn't remember some of them.

Marebear
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09-27-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marebear a private message Print Post    
I thought that Amanda's tears were real. To me they seemed like exhaustion or hormonal tears. I know when I get really tired (or that time of the month) that I can cry and cry for not a lot of reason. Since she had been on back-to-back Survivors I think she was just exhausted and wanted it all to be over.

I seriously think Nat was wanting Parv to invite her to her bedroom after her question - to say something like "we'll hook up later and you can see for yourself what my bedroom behavior is like".

I really wanted Cirie to win too.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Lex, if I *had* voted, I would've for James. Only because I think he could've gone a lot farther in the game had he not been medevac'd out. Then again, he would've had to win challenges, and he did come in second to Erik at that one. Anyways, if I had voted, it would've been a pity vote.

But I do totally agree about Parvati being a "favorite." I don't recall her being much of a favorite of anyone on her season, and I do recall a lot of people not liking how she played the game. Don't get me wrong, I'll flirt if I can get away with it, too. But I'm also not flirting and lying to someone's face at the same time, and I have a lot of brains to bsck up the flirt. She made one really smart move, though, and that was getting a secondary alliance with Alexis and Natalie. But that was really a CYA move at first, and it accidentally turned out to win her the game (IMNSHO).

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, May 12, 2008 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I saw it in her "Day after" interview on the website, when she explains why she didn't accept Amanda's reasoning for choosing Parvati

thanks, Spear. I don't spend any time looking at 'extras' on the site...just looked for this, and could not find it (if anyone could point me to it, tia)

what was Amanda's reasoning?

I imagine that anyone in Cirie's situ would naturally question why they weren't chosen