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Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Julie, Jeff didn't say that. I don't believe it's merge time yet.

Tracy needs Chet to stay, Costa. She doesn't fit in the other alliance and had to make her own. Good play on her part. Much better than Cerie's.
BTW, I thought James & Ozzy's slaming on Eliza was intented for Cerie's ears. They are kicking themselves for sending YM home. They wanted Cerie to know that she's never going to run the game again.

Biscottiii, didn't you notice how vocal Erik was at the TC? Micky even gave him some puzzled looks not liking his comments. Who knows, by now Erik could be part of the Old ones alliance. But than again, it's moot come next challenge.

Hopefully Penner is not hurt that badly! Hope he stays to revenge for Yau-Man! Oh well.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
From what I understood they aren't merging. They are swapping around the teams. Regardless, it is far too early for that IMO. So much for strategy.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Interesting how they played up Eliza being sick, when, if you were paying attention, it was obvious Chet was even sicker than Eliza. His comment that his head and heart were in the game but his body was not, referred to the fact that he was sick. And that is why he was laying around and not working. Like Eliza, he could barely move.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Yeah, too early for me also.
But mixing up is all that will happen.
^^^ That's reaction to Jimmer's.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Juju, I understood Chet to mean that he couldn't do the swim challenge more than that he was sick. I'm confused, because he didn't seem sick just lazy.
I didn't think Eliza had an attitude. If they didn't want her to respond they shouldn't have been talking about it in front of her. What people can't defend themselves? Eliza thinks she could have outdone Yao-man in the comps and was reserving energy for the challenges. I didn't want Yao to go but I don't think it's fair to say Eliza shouldn't have stood up for herself. Would James have said that about Jonathan if he had been the sick one who didn't get sent home?
Don't get me wrong I love how hard James is playing this game but Eliza has a right to defend herself without it being called an "attitude."

The fans should have gotten rid fo Chet who does nothing around camp. He comes off as very lazy.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Yeah! Who started the merge rumour? I NEVER got that impression last night, I thought they were just adjusting teams.

I knew they would adjust teams early, because the two types of teams were just so unfair. Wasn't it fairly soon in the men/women/old/young season too?

I like Eliza. I don't find her bad to be around from what they show on TV, but BOTH of her seasons, she has bothered people, s I guess there's just something behind the scenes that bothers people. Nobody has ever accused her of doing anything specific like being a physical threat, or losing challenges for them, or anything that is a threat within the game. She just bugs people. Everything I have seen of her, is that she plays the game no differently than others. She strikes me as more enthusiastic than others, but things like talking game in private are things done by everyone, so you can't fault her for that. I just think she annoys people, and so it's a selfish boot, IMO.

Blegh Chet. So weak, so everything I hate in a Survivor contestant. He doesn't even TRY to look stronger. If his HEAD was in the game, he'd know better than to lay around. He'd be sick, but at least peeling scales off fish, or tending to the fire, or something easy but productive. What bothers me SO MUCH is that he claims his head and heart were in the game. What game did he have his head and heart in? Survivor Park Avenue Penthouse edition? Gah! Get him off!!

Joel may be making crazy power moves, but he's establishing a rep as a snake. I doubt he'll last much longer. Although I DO like him.

I really hope that they are mixed in a way that breaks up the couples' alliance, and I want Ozzy to be safe too!!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
But Juju, you have to agree that the vocalized regrets on James and Ozzy's part was an interesting element on the Favs. team.
OTOH, "An unexpected mastermind emerges when someone pits two power players against each other in a last-ditch effort to save a targeted ally." was more fun a story to show.

Anyways, it doesn't even look like Eliza would be sick too long. There's other hurties to show next episode. Not to rehash, but they should have play more about how Eliza ended up voting YM out. That was very important. It could have made a huge difference if votes were going the other way...

ETA, Chet was sick alright. He was probably one of those who didn't bother to have shoes on playing that pillow fight. If you're familiar with that kind of beaches, you know what I'm talking about.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Me too, I love Ozzy!!!

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I think it was foolish of James to openly antagonize Eliza like that. He should know that a swap or merge could easily give Eliza the chance to help get rid of him.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Ozzy is so hot, too. <swooooooooon>

He just looks so at home in the jungle. He's like Tarzan reincarnate.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
LOL, just thought about one thing, now we will have to learn the names of the tribes, or call them by colors....
No more Fans Vs Favs.

Nessietessie
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02-03-2007

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nessietessie a private message Print Post    
Does anyone else think that Chet looks like Nigel Lithgoe (spelling) the head judge on "So You Think You Can Dance." ??

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I do, how funny!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Okay, my one observation from last night...how the HECK are Cirie's nails still looking so good? Either the girl has nails of steel or she has not done one iota of work around the campsite.

Yes, Chet looks like Nigel and yes, Ozzy is hot. Very hot. He needs a loincloth.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Chet seems more weak to me than sick. The first few days without adequate food, water, and shelter probably took more of a tole on him than it did on the others. To me, he seemed more than willing to go home and almost acted like he did not want Tracy to save him. I think he only stayed out of loyalty to his alliance. He probably sees there is little hope of him winning, so he was probably ready to call it an experience and go home.

I agree that it was rude and uncalled for, for James and the others to bash Eliza right to her face. It was not her fault they decided to vote out Yao Man. They made the decision, live with it, don't take it out on her.

If find it interesting how under the radar, Amanda is playing it. Maybe she learned a lesson in her season. Even if she doesn't know who won yet, she took a lot of flack at the final tribal council.

Tracy amazed me. She read the situation just right and she knew that Joel was very nervous about Mikey and wanted him gone.

And she knew it was better to approach Joel to get rid of Mikey than it was to approach Mikey to vote out Joel.

Joel was so afraid of Mikey running the show, and he does not seem to realize how Tracy manipulated him. Of course he is so macho that there is no way he could imagine a woman and an "old" one at that being able to control him. LOL

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
There was nothing unfair about the two tribes except that the Fans tribe started voting out their stronger players right away. If Burnett immediately adjusts for that every time it happens then the stronger players will always be the first targets.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, who said something was unfair? Sometimes it seems Burnett tries to put words in people's mouths.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Actually Eeyore said it earlier in this thread.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I wasn't trying to be a smart elec, I honestly thought that you meant one of the survivors were saying that. I didn't think that I heard anybody saying that last night.

I didn't see the tribes being unfair. Some might think the favs have an advantage of been there, done that but the fans watched so they knew what to expect.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think it's unfair because the faves STILL have a BIG TIME advantage, having been in a survival situation, and knowing how the production works, knowing what to expect with regards to bodily reactions to starvation, knowing how the production crews work around them, as well as how to make use of their environment, and what deserves the most or least labor attention. For that reason, I think the faves have a major advantage, as they aren't spending a week getting to know each other, AND they have the benefit of watching past shows on each other.

The fans have NEVER experienced something like Survivor, they don't know how to work as a team, and the importance of doing so whether you like everyone or not, the whole production crew presence is new, so maybe they are pulled away from a task to do a private interview, and they think it will be 10 minutes, when really it's an hour, and the task they were working on doesn't get done. They DON'T know each other at all, so they have to get reads on each other right away, and that brings in more mental and emotional stress, over and above their body feeling the physical stress for the first time. Add to that the mental and emotional stress of just experiencing the physical stress for the first time! I bet it's WAAAAAAAY harder for the fans.

This is why I thought they would be evened out fairly early in the season, so as to lend some of that experience to the fans, and make the survival aspect a bit easier for all of them.

I really don't think ANY of us can have an idea of how hard survivor is from just watching. Sure, you sort of know what to expect based on the EDITED version, but heck, it's not Big Brother, and we aren't seeing 24 hours of uncensored footage about how things really are, so I just don't think we know what to expect until we're IN the situation.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I feel sorry for Chet. When I'm in the tropics it's like all my life force is drained right out of me with the heat and humidity. I get week as a kitten and not good for anything. No matter how much you try, you cannot overcome it. It is all powerful.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sorry, for saying the M (erge) word.. of course not a merge but I still think it is way too soon for this sort of mixup. But they didn't ask me, I suppose.

Jedisan
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01-11-2002

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jedisan a private message Print Post    
My favorite part of Tracy's brilliant gaming last night was; At TC she called the tribe out for saying they were looking to get rid of the 'weakest' members, but that while Tracy, Kathy and Chet have all sat out of the recent challenges, the tribe still lost most of them.
that was great to me! you could see Mikey B trying to figure out a response to that one, if Jeff had let him.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I think maybe the main reason for a switch-up so early in the game is to give the Super Fans a chance to play along with the Faves.

BTW Seamonkey... TPTB did call you to clear it with you, but you weren't home at the time.


Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Thanks to EVERYONE for answering 'Call of My Confusion'!! You were ALL right on target too. Yeah, I rewound and rewatched (stopping to rewind several spots yet again when it still wasn't clear) just to make sure. Yikes, I didn't get to bed until the wwwweeee hours.

One spot I was looking for especially:
Jedisan said: "... At TC she called the tribe out for saying they were looking to get rid of the 'weakest' members, but that while Tracy, Kathy and Chet have all sat out of the recent challenges, the tribe still lost most of them. " to clarify that snippet.

In that last challenge, involving the poles & harnesses, was what Tracy was referring to at TC. Tracy, I believe it was, had to 'sit out' since Chet sat out last time. Kathy & Chet were filling the roles in the 'puzzle figurers' spot. And all the macho/buff players never made it there in time for Kathy & Chet to even get to work. Brilliant comment from Tracy!