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Episode 4, February 28th

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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Agreed, Jedisan, Tracy pointing that out at Tribal Council was another stroke of genius.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 29, 2008 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I agree that the Faves have a bit of an advantage over the fans, having actually been on Survivor before and participated in challenges. The immunity challenge last night was fairly similar to others, wasn't it?

Chet isn't sick. Chet is weak. Probably from lack of food and water. But he is also lazy. There is no excuse to just sit around while everyone else around you is doing SOMETHING.

Joel is not goimg to last long. He should NOT have listened and gone for Mikey. They should have voted out Chet. Now he's gonna be fifth wheel in that group, and they will turn on him as soon as they can.

The Fans are not playing smart at all. They really should be thinking about the game AT THIS POINT, and ditching their weakest links. Instead, they are thinking of the end game, or least after the merge, and are getting rid of players who would help them GET TO THAT END GAME. Not smart, Fans.

As far as Eliza, she even admitted she has a problem when she meets people. Er, rather, that they have a problem with her. So yes, while I've not seen anything obnoxious, she's definitely not well liked. And she IS a weak link, too.

Finally, why are there still so many Fans that I don't know about. The guy who stopped the voting to basically tell everyone to vote out Chet? Where has he been? And the other, younger guy with the longer hair? Is he part of the Tracy, Kathy, Chet alliance?

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Saturday, March 01, 2008 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Costacat - I think we haven't seen much of the 2 fan guys you mentioned as well as that pretty female fan with the really thick hair because they don't usually say much. The only time we even "see" them is when there is group stuff going on & they may not be the weakest physically but they're not the strong, stand out ones either.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 12:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Any Lost fans.....did anyone think Tracey was pulling a Ben on Joel (with Joel being Locke), when she was pulling the "why are you letting him lead you around like that?"

Joel looks like he fancies himself the leader of the group, but also knew Mike was a threat to that leadership. So really, Tracey seeing and pushing that button was probably even more brilliant game play than mentioning the numbers game, or the fact that the tribes are still losing even when the weak players sit out.

Lexie_girl
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Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Whoami, it was a total Lost moment!!!

Chy
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Sunday, March 02, 2008 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
:-) Who & Lexie.
Count me as another LOST fan here who recognized that moment. The way they used to promote LOST before it was ever shown, I thought it was a show imitating Survivor and almost didn't bother to watch!

But Jedison is right about Tracy. That was brilliant words at TC. Do notice that Tracy didn't say "sit out", as Bisc also noticed. Kathy and Chet didn't even have a chance to get into the challenge waiting for them to deliver the necklaces!
That poor lady could have been someone's very strong ally. Except she was pushed to be with the weaker/Older/Sicker Chet and the seemingly quirky Kathy. Remember how Eliza was shown in Thursday's preview as one so happy and welcoming to the idea of switching-tribes? Let's hope Tracy finds better alliance also. She deserves a better chance.

Costa, by some freaky reason, I happened to know the names of those Fans. I've had my eyes on that Jason, the one Fan who re-insert the importance of keeping the team strong. He told us since epi one that he thinks he's going to be a good match for Ozzy. So I've been looking for him to show me those qualities. So far, the only thing I'm certain is that his tribe depends on his swimming skills. I suspect he might have been the one vocal before TC with Micky. And that might have been the reason how Tracy figured out what to do and say.
The younger guy with longer hair is Erik. I notice him since they always have "Icecream scoopper" under his name! I thought he was going to be like the "produce guy" or "Fire dancer", but he's been holding his own pretty well. I don't think he's allianed w/ the Oldies. He's probably trying to position himself a bit better booting Micky. I know you're not supposed to worry about End Game and all just yet. But why work so hard and set up some other guys to win? In Micky's world, after the Oldies, Icecream scooper might be next. His siding with Joel this time might gain him a strong poppett or at least a second man place. Of course they didn't see the switch acomin'!
The girl with thick hair. I'm not sure if you're talking about Natalie or Alexis. Al has been very good at challenges. Nat has been very quiet until this epi.
You have to agree though, most of the drama this season has been coming from the Favs so far. I don't really blame the Editor for not showing much of some castaways. Plus we are supposed to "read" the way they edit and try to spec and all ... :-)

Jedisan
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Monday, March 03, 2008 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jedisan a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bisc and others that pointed out the error in my post. In my head, it sounded right.LOL! I still loved it - I too, hope Tracy gets a real chance - she is very smart and knows how to play the game.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, March 03, 2008 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Actually Jedisan, I didn't think you were in 'error' - you were correct in that regard, as well. Kathy, Chet, and Tracy seem to be taking turns and doing most (if not all) of the 'sitting out'. Which I have no doubt that the rest of the tribe is quite aware of, perhaps even directing them to do so & labelling them as 'weak'. So Tracy IMO may have been implying about the 'sitting out' in - - addition to the 3-some being out of that particular challenge being lost w/o the 3-some's help.

ITA re: Tracy. She could play an awesome game if she didn't have two albatross-like characters hanging out with her.

Costacat
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Monday, March 03, 2008 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Chy! I guess I need to pay more attention to the subtitles AND their names! :-)

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Monday, March 03, 2008 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
I have been so busy that I only just watched the show tonight!! EEEK!! And boy am I so glad I did not get spoiled.

I was so pumped when Ozzy got the II!! WoooooHoooo!!! Go Ozzy!! And I "second" everyone about Ozzy's incredible hotness! Roxip you are so right about the loincloth! Ozzy needs to get one ASAP! The look on my face is like the "cat that ate the cream" because I am so pleased at how well Ozzy is faring in this game. I told my sister that he is the ONLY one that I really care about winning on the favs team. Ozzy DESERVES to win....heck I thought he deserved to win on his original season ...but that's a whole other conversation. I really like Jason on the fans team. He's hot, a good physical player AND has a likeable personality....huh...reminds me of Ozzy! Although Jason has some big shoes to fill. Basically those are my two picks to win this season. Ozzy or Jason.

OK enough of my girly comments.

I'm not happy with the tribe switch-up. It messes up good strategic play and it was completely unnecessary at this point in the game. Although the favorites are dominating, they aren't dominating from a numbers standpoint. All the tribe switching does is reward poor team play.

Right on Jimmer, as always, your comments are so intelligent!!! I also thought the switch would mess up good strategic play. Ozzy is in a VERY good position right now. I don't like changes because then I have to worry how they will effect him. I really don't understand the need to switch so soon. As you have said, it's not like the Favs are dominating per se. Usually the only time they mix it up is when the teams are severely uneven "numbers" wise. But the teams are even so whats up???

OH and I can't even tell you how perfect your last statement was: All the tribe switching does is reward poor team play. You have narrowed down the worst part of the switch (IMO). I want to see the fans suffer for their poor decision making!! LOL I don't care if that sounds harsh! I told my sister that I was looking forward to watching them regret their voting history. And now I can't! They are going to mix 'em up and the fans will never see the consequences of their idiotic decision making. They will just continue on thinking that what they did was smart and as you say Jimmer they will be rewarded for their poor team play.

Regardless of this unnecessary mix up....I really hope that Chet gets the boot soon. You can't go on Survivor and do nothing at camp. And Chet is definitely not benefiting the team at competitions.......gosh I can't get over it...twice in a row...stupid..stupid decision by the fans.

Costacat
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Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The team mix-up is not something that they decide on the spur of a moment. It's something that has been planned as they planned the season, just as the challenges are all pre-planned. Probst has made this pretty clear year to year.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, March 04, 2008 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Yeah, and I'm sure they did this because they knew the majority of viewers would be rooting for the favorites. This will give us, the viewers, a chance to warm to the fans, and it will also give the fans a chance to play with the favorites.

I'm not happy about it either, for the same reasons. I wanted the fans to suffer horribly for their foolish voting. I also wanted the favorites to dominate, after all, they are my favorites! But I understand why it was done.