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Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I'm so sorry to see that Jonathan had to go under those circumstances. He was probably in a lot of pain and just suffered through it.

He is one of my favorite players of all seasons, I was so excited to see him back as a favorite. I kept hoping they could give him the iv antibiotics and have him return until I heard the word surgery. I'm glad Jeff gave the update that he is doing well. He had such a chance to win this maybe. Oh well.

So so SO glad Chet is done. Did he even help in that challenge at all? He was shown standing there holding the rope. uuuggghhhh! I'm so glad I don't have to watch someone with such low physical and mental energy anymore.

That team needs Ozzy to get to the merge. It would not have been smart at all to get rid of him at this point. You need numbers at the merge. Deal with the possibility of him having the HII later. At this point, it is a team game. And the other team has James! Come on! I'm glad they wised up. Good editing though, making us think Ozzy might go.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Seriously someone in the casting department should get fired over Chet getting on the show.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I can't help but wonder how interesting the game would be if the fans had voted out Chet first instead of Mary. He seemed to just drag down whatever team he was on. I can't imagine why he was ever picked for the show. Yau Man was not exactly Mr. Muscle, but he had such brains and spunk that it made him one of my favorite players ever. Chet didn't display any smarts, spunk, or charm to make up for his lack of brawn. Glad, glad, glad he's gone now.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I never was a Jonathan fan and not even this season, but I certainly hated seeing him go in the way he did. That was just a cruel ending for a guy who was in it 100% and wouldn't have given up until his flame was snuffed out! I hated seeing his pain and seeing him forced out like that.

Chet.. he could have really been a little part of Survivor history if they had gotten rid of Ozzy. Chet could have asked for a medic that very night or the next day and gotten treatment for his foot, or then asked to be sent out. As for being a member down when he did leave, not much of a loss and, in fact, it would have been a gain.

The people who wanted Ozzy gone aren't being protected BY Ozzy, the team isn't doing well with Ozzy there, so I think it was a good attempted coup, but Chet wasn't going to go with it. Anyway, I'm sure happy that Chet is gone.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I couldn't understand why, this early in the game, they would even think about getting rid of the guy who's feeding them!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think some of the fans are more worried about staying in the game than about keeping Ozzy to feed them.

Flossiebebe
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09-01-2005

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flossiebebe a private message Print Post    
The only reason for even having Chet on the show was as the 'token gay guy.' He was useless from day one...in fact Tracey would probably have done better if he'd never been there

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
I wish they had gotten a better "token gay guy".
Lots of gay guys are strong, handsome, intelligent and capable of taking an active part in this show, just like straight guys are.
I feel like they tried to use Chest as an example of how wimpy a gay guy is. I hate them for that.

Spelll
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09-16-2005

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spelll a private message Print Post    
Remember...this game is heavily edited (like Big Brother) to present each player in a certain light. He most likely was but we don't know for sure that Chet was that bad.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
When did they say he was gay? I didn't know he was gay until I started reading this thread.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think Chet said he was gay a few times. I don't think Survivor included him as the token gay though (and remember Ami is also gay), I think he showed something in interviewing that didn't show up on the island. I presume something mental that was completely subdued (might be wrong word) by the physical almost immediately he got there. They've had plenty of gay men in the past and I'm sure many tried out; I don't think they'd include someone like the Chet we saw just because they felt each season needed a token gay man.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
I think I rememeber near the beginning when Kathy was making a big deal about the fact that she had never seen a homosexual before.
Maybe I am remembering wrong.
Also, I just noticed that I accidentally spelled Chet's name as "Chest" in my post above. Sorry.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Oh, yeah. I think I vaguely remember Kathy's comment too now that you mention it. It must not have sunk in. I'm blaming it on the drugs.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I had wondered if they cast somebody like Chet because they thought he would physically balance the team since the faves had little Yau Man, but Yau could have beaten Chet with one foot tied behind his back lol.

It seems that they tried to cast fans that would possibly equal out against the faves, like James=Joel, Fairplay=Erik, Ozzy=Jason, Cirie=Kathy, Ami=Tracy, Jonathan=Mikey B, and so on. I think they miscalculated badly on some of these, though.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Interesting theory and yeah, they did miscalculate in some of those potential matchups.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, March 15, 2008 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Chet is a pageant coach, so theoretically, he should have been cut-throat and ruthless and apt at reading people. I tend to agree with Kitt - his mental game went right to pot when he got his physical butt kicked.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Not really sure where to put this so the most see it, and not sure if it has been covered or not...

I was just setting my DVR for the week since I leave on vacation in the morning and this week's Survivor is on Wednesday night because of basketball.

Mods move this to where ever is the best, wasn't sure

Fanof8
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08-04-2007

Monday, March 17, 2008 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fanof8 a private message Print Post    
Chet was the worst Survivor player in the history of the show. I felt bad for him in that one event where the fans guy was dragging him all over the course, lol, that was pathetic, but actually funny now.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I wish I could see what the producers saw in Chet, when they cast him. Although it does seem that they usually cast one person who has no business being on Survivor (traditionally, though, hasn't the weaker player been a woman?).

At any rate, I'm glad he finally left. I thought his "vote me off" was pathetic. He was whining about a piece of coral in his foot, yet Jonathan was evacuated who so did NOT want to have to leave. Dichotomy there, yes?

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
No, not based on the interview posted in the spoiler thread. It was an interview done after he was booted. You should read it--I think it proves that two very similar situations can take place, yet they the light cast on them can be very different solely based on what they allow us to see on the show.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Apparently, Jonathan was in the hospital for 3 weeks: Reality Blurred Article

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Lance, would you mind copying the link from the spoiler thread into here, re Chet's injury? I'm scared what other spoilers I might bump into if I go there! Thank you!

I did wonder with Jonathan's whether stitching it without being able to properly clean it was the right thing to do - but what was their option? Out there they could hardly leave it open. Good job he left the island when he did.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, March 14, 2008 - 7:59 pm
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Okay.........now I feel better. Survivor Fever has changed Kathy on their Boot List to "Removed in Episode 7". That fits more into what we had to start with.
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Great interview with Chet....reveals a whole bunch about his leaving. Appears the medics were going to take him out if he wasn't booted out.
Read On......
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Reality TV World: Were you injured during the third episode's football-themed Reward Challenge where you were competing on the coral rocks and if so, how did it happen?

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Chet: Yeah. At that time I got a piece of coral in my shoe and it pretty much kept hammering into my foot as the challenge went on. Later on I kind of thought it was just a stone bruise, but it just progressed from there and never really went away like I was hoping it would.

Reality TV World: So it started to become more painful and you realized it was a problem?

Chet: The swelling and the infection you could see was kind of going up into my ankle. The archway of my foot was pretty much gone... In the game of Survivor you need your feet, you need your legs. You can't get by without them.

Reality TV World: Had you been receiving any medical attention for the injury before leaving the game? Was it known by the Survivor medics?

Chet: Oh yeah. For probably about a good week I was taking oral antibiotics, which did nothing for it. Obviously they won't give you anything for pain because that could help you in the game. But I was seeing the doctors probably for about a good week.

Reality TV World: Do you know why they didn't show any of that to [Survivor's home] viewers?

Chet: No, not necessarily. I mean obviously it wasn't anything life-threatening at that point. It was just something where you could not compete in a game like that with the infection and constantly getting in and out of the water and whatever.

Reality TV World: Did the medics suggest you remove yourself from the game or was that a decision you made on your own?

Chet: When I came back from Exile Island, the doctors checked me before I went into [the Immunity Challenge]. They actually wanted to take me out when they saw my foot.

I asked if I could just go ahead and compete in the challenge and we would probably lose the challenge and I would ask to be voted off that night. That's pretty much how it went.

Reality TV World: Okay, so the injury was so bad that you don't think you could have stayed in the game and helped Tracy Wolf-Hughes, Erik Reichenbach and Ami Cusack eliminate Ozzy Lusth?

Chet: I didn't have a choice. If I would have not been voted out, they would have pulled me right from Tribal Council.

Reality TV World: So the medics let you participate in that Triba Councill with the understanding you were leaving?

Chet: I just didn't want to disappear from the game. I wanted to -- at that point -- stay in and go through the whole rite-of-passage of being voted out.

Reality TV World: So if Ozzy was voted out as a result of that Tribal Council and you were also removed from the game by the medics immediately after [the Tribal Council session] was over, do you know if Ozzy still would have been eliminated?

Chet: Possibly. But again, the game has twists and turns. You never know. I mean, did I actually even trust wholeheartedly what was going on [with the plan to eliminate Ozzy]? I trusted Tracy -- I would have trusted Tracy with my life. Erik, Ami or Cirie... I don't know?

Reality TV World: Based on what we just talked about, I'm assuming the whole Malakal tribe knew the situation you were in, right?

Chet: That is correct, yes.

Reality TV World: What was their reaction to it?

Chet: Basically after we lost the Reward Challenge I just told them, 'I need to go.' And they obliged and I went.

Reality TV World: After you were eliminated you said eliminating Ozzy was something Tracy and Erik "can take care of after I'm gone." Are you confident that's something they'll be able to do since they're basically sitting ducks now?

Chet: Things change. People have gone into Tribal Council with a decision on what they were going to do and who they're going to vote off and it's changed during Tribal Council. So a lot can change in that period of time. Am I sure or guaranteed? Absolutely not. Do I think they can? Sure I think they can, but you just don't know. Everything falls into factor. It's like a game of luck, so what's going to happen?

Reality TV World: While you were on Exile Island with Jason Siska, you told him you thought Ozzy already had found the Hidden Immunity Idol. What made you think that?

Chet: I'm a very nosy person. I dig around and I search.

Reality TV World: So are you insinuating you found Ozzy's Hidden Immunity Idol?

Chet: I knew he had the idol.

Reality TV World: Interesting. Did you share that information with anybody?

Chet: I did not share it with anybody in my tribe. I did share it with Jason. I told him because basically I was not going to waste my time looking for it because I knew it had already been found. Jason was probably not my closest friend in the group. I knew Jason would not believe me when I was telling him, so he can just take his sorry ass all over those islands and look all he wanted. I knew he wasn't going to find it.

Reality TV World: So he didn't believe you when you told him Ozzy had the idol?

Chet: Absolutely not, no.

Reality TV World: Did Jason ever tell you he thought he might have found what he thought was the idol?

Chet: No he didn't.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Interesting article, thanks for copying it over. I'm not sure they showed him getting medical attention even once, did they? I wonder how different his game would have been were it not for the coral.