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Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
What?
D is telling on A? for saying "having her back?"
D should not talk too much...

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Back at camp, Todd congratulating Amanda on her good job. Amanda is worried that whoever gets voted out tonight will think it's because of her. She says it is such a good thing but it can be such a bad thing.

Denise says she feels really really nervous right now. She says she feels on the outside. She think she might be able to sway Amanda. Denise talking to Amanda and Amanda says she hasn't decided yet who she is voting for. Amanda says Denise put up a good fight today. She admires her determination. Denise says she doesn't have much after this... Todd will have his career in LA and Amanda will have her fashion stuff. Denise getting joked up as she talks about this. Amanda says that Denise has been a great player and she'd like to keep her around but, then again, others will think that so it's hard. Does she keep the people she thinks deserve to win or does she take the people she can win against?

Todd telling Courtney and Amanda that he's voting for Denise tonight. Courtney is agreeing with him. He says they can tell her whatever they want but that's what he plans. He says to the camera that he hopes he's still here on day 39. In the shelter, Todd telling Courtney that Denise may be trying to get Amanda to vote him off. Todd saying he'd be proud to lose to Amanda but he doesn't want to lose to Denise. Courtney says that this isn't welfare... [I miss what else she says but she then says, "I'm the biggest b*tch in the world."]

Denise and Amanda talking. Amanda explaining that it's hard for her because she doesn't want to turn on someone she's been in an alliance with since the beginning (talking about Todd here). Denise isn't sure she can trust Amanda or not. Amanda tells her she won't write down Denise's name but she can't promise what the others will do. Denise says she likes Amanda but doesn't knwo if she can trust her. Says this is the time to prove it.

Courtney and Amanda talking. Amanda telling Courtney that everyone likes Todd. Amanda trying to sell Courtney on the idea that voting out Todd is a good move for both of them. Amanda tells the camera that she thinks Todd is her biggest threat right now. It's a younger jury and they like Todd. She then says she's still at a crossroads, she doesn't know what she's going to choose.

TC
Jeff bringing in the jury. Jeff asks Amanda if there's any chance she's going to give up immunity tonight. She says, "No way." Jeff asking Todd what he's going to base his vote on tonight. Todd says it's the hardest vote and it's coming down to who you want to put yourself up against in the end.

Jeff wants to know if Denise thinks the biggest threat deserves a shot or if that person should be gotten rid of? She says she's going to do what she has to do to stay in the game. She feels like she is on the outside. Jeff asks Courtney asks if Denise is on the outside and Courtney says that everyone is on the outside of something. She says she has felt that way several times in this game and it's more about perception than anything.

Todd saying he's not sure if he's safe either. He wants to think he is and hopes he is but he's seen a lot happen on this side of the game where people have felt sure and then they weren't. Courtney says you'd have to be very stupid to think you're safe at this point. Denise thinks they'd want to get rid of her because she has kids and that might make her sympathetic to the jury.

Courtney says no one is going to be excited that she managed to pull through. She says there are lots of areas where she's going to come up a lot shorter than the others. Including her "winning" personality. Sure she isn't too popular.

Amanda says it's funny how people change when you've got immunity. Denise talks about how earlier Amanda said she had her back, etc. Todd grinning now. Jeff asks him about it. Todd says he was reacting for Denise in a way. Jeff wants to know if the final jury has started because Todd took a second to make an editorial position and Amanda says but you just have to do what you can. (Note: Amanda corrected Denise to say that she didn't say she had her back today and then said, "Well, you know what I said...")

Denise votes for Todd and Todd votes for Denise. He says she's been one of the greatest competitors in this game so far. She's been awesome and, "Thank you."

Tally ho, Jeff!

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
The votes...

Denise: 3
Todd: 1

Denise is out. James upset by this, he puts his head in his hand. Denise gives Amanda a hug here as she goes. Denise gives them the peace sign as she leaves.

Jeff tells them they've gone as far as they can go in this game. The power now shifts to the jury. The only power they have left is to persuade them it should be them.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Denise thinks she could have won the entire thing if she had stayed in the game. Is proud of herself and how far she made it in the game.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I always laugh when someone says they would have won if they would have stayed in the game...

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I think Amanda should have written down Courtney's name. It was the easy way to keep her promise to Denise but also not vote against the one person she's had an alliance with all along. So she would have been staying true to what she talked to Denise about.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Chicken could have won this whole thing if he had just stayed in the game!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Nerovh :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Raen, that's what I thought as well. I really think she would have kept the words to D if D did not spill it in front of every one!

See, they;re still talking about that and the face Todd made after...

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
LOL @ the editors of the show for showing a monkey doing the same gesture as Todd did..LOL

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Back at camp. Todd congratulating them on doing it. Courtney asks Amanda if she is fine? She says she is. Todd telling her to stop. She asks what he wants, if he wants to call her out again at Tribal. She says she is so over this. Todd explaining what he did. She knows what he did but that just made her look worse.

Amanda telling us that she doesn't feel like she told Denise that she had her back today. She told her that before. Amanda saying it's fine but don't expect his game to be ok if he does stuff like that because she doesn't like it. She says she feels like crap to be in the finals with someone who has lied and cheated to get here.

Todd tells the camera that it really was an accident. He says it was a complete slip up. He doesn't think she believes him but it really wasn't intentional. He says that he wants to be able to celebrate that they are in the final three like they planned. She says she doesn't feel like celebrating. Tells them they can celebrate, she's going to bed.

In the morning, they say can't believe it's the last time. They talk about what they'll get to do sometime in the next 24 hours.

They get a celebration meal for making it to the final 3. They have fruit, pancake batter, meat, and more. Courtney says China has been a crazy experience for her. She is glad it was as hard as it was because it was a building experience. She says she is proud of herself to make it to the final three.

Courtney is so happy that it is them with her. She thinks she does have good relationships with the people on the jury. She has never been anything but herself and hopefully that'll get her some credit.

They are building up a bonfire. Todd says the biggest part of being in China is that he's felt more emotions and thought more about his life than he ever ever has. He thinks China has helped him grow up. Amanda lighting the bonfire now.

Todd thinks he stands an OK shot with the jury. He backstabbed and lied a lot but whether he wins or not he feels like he's accomplished a lot and he's proud of where he's made it.

Amanda feels like it's anyone's game at this point. She thinks she stands a 33% shot of winning. She is going to go in and tell them how she played the game and that's that. She is nervous tonight, she knows she'll be emotional but it'll be good and she's excited.

They are off.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Jeff brings in the jury.

FINAL TC
Power now shifts to the jury. Jury will decide who is most deserving of being sole survivor.

Each will make opening statement and then jury will address them.

AMANDA: I had a lot of time to reflect on this experience. I feel very blessed to be sitting here, this was a hard 39 days. It's finally come to an end. Came in with specific strategy and had to align with someone right away. Aligned with Todd and then was with people she could compete against at the end. Some things she's not proud of that she's done. Specifically voting for people who didn't know she was going to vote for them. Names James, John-Robert, and Frosti.

TODD: Thanks all of them for helping him get here. He asks that they see the difference between his strategic game and the relationships he built with them. They are not the same. He says he knew he was not the most physical so he had to do things strategically. Does really want to thank them for helping him in the game.

COURTNEY: Unlike the other two, I had no strategy and no idea what I was doing. Was always surprised to stay in the game. Figured out how to survive in a game that was completely phsyical in the beginning. Had to figure out a way to make it work for her. Was surprised that she managed to win one immunity, was always upfront and made good alliances. Thinks they have to give some credit to the little girl everyone thought would be gone in the first 6 days but is still sitting here on day 39.

Jury time. Jeff gives them a minute to think about what they want to say and we go to commercial.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Jeff brings in the jury.

FINAL TC
Power now shifts to the jury. Jury will decide who is most deserving of being sole survivor.

Each will make opening statement and then jury will address them.

AMANDA: I had a lot of time to reflect on this experience. I feel very blessed to be sitting here, this was a hard 39 days. It's finally come to an end. Came in with specific strategy and had to align with someone right away. Aligned with Todd and then was with people she could compete against at the end. Some things she's not proud of that she's done. Specifically voting for people who didn't know she was going to vote for them. Names James, John-Robert, and Frosti.

TODD: Thanks all of them for helping him get here. He asks that they see the difference between his strategic game and the relationships he built with them. They are not the same. He says he knew he was not the most physical so he had to do things strategically. Does really want to thank them for helping him in the game.

COURTNEY: Unlike the other two, I had no strategy and no idea what I was doing. Was always surprised to stay in the game. Figured out how to survive in a game that was completely phsyical in the beginning. Had to figure out a way to make it work for her. Was surprised that she managed to win one immunity, was always upfront and made good alliances. Thinks they have to give some credit to the little girl everyone thought would be gone in the first 6 days but is still sitting here on day 39.

Jury time. Jeff gives them a minute to think about what they want to say and we go to commercial.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Jury is roflol because "Todd shut him up"!
They're laughing at J-R.

Todd might have won J-R over. T very smartly payid respect to J-R w/o too much A&&-kissing!

Why is Amanda tripping on her own words now?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Hope Frosti knows that Courtney was telling the truth!

Why does Jaimie insist how that from Courtney? Make Todd tell on himself. :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ah, she's stiring the pot.
"You just heard what A said about you, What do you have to say about her?"

Ooooo! Denise just came right out and tell Amanda she's a liar and she respect Courtney not being a liar!

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
JAMES: Congratulates them. He says he's not going to be a bitter betty. He wants to know a good time Courtney had. Courtney names the first challenge their team did together. She was happy not nto be the first person voted out of Survivor.

Jeff wants to know why that question. He says he wanted to make it easy on them.

JOHN-ROBERT: He congratulates them. Says he has a dilemna. Doesn't think Courtney is deserving to get to the end. But also promised both Todd and Amanda that they wouldn't get $1million if they backstabbed him. He asks Courtney how he can give her his vote. She says she has outwitted, outlasted, outplayed... she says, "Did you win immunity?" John-Robert says that was a good game. John-Robert asks Amanda about her saying she wouldn't put down his name and his name is on the ballot. He wants to know if she was lying or did she just go back on her word.

She says she wasn't lying and she didn't want to vote for him but too many others did. It was a hard decision and is not one she is proud of. Is sorry for it. Was between rock and hard place but had no choice.

He asks Todd about their plan to send James home. He says Todd blindsiding him... he says he wasn't the biggest threat. Todd says that John-Robert replacing him strategically made him the biggest threat to Todd. Todd says he had to get rid of his biggest threat.

JR: Congratulations and well-done. The jury is laughing here... Jeff wants to know what he's laughing at and James said that JR shut Todd up.

PG: Says she wants to vote for person who deserves it the most. She asks Todd about sliding in for being easy to beat. He says he didn't slide anywhere. He says he gathered his numbers and he managed to keep them. He says he fought and it's a glorious battle. PG goes to Amanda. Says she is sick of her looking at her with doe eyes. She says every time you open your mouth, you sound apologetic. What did you do better than Todd? Amanda's strategy was to get rid of people she couldn't compete against physically. She admits she coordinated the James vote.

ERIC: Wants to know the riskiest move they made in the game. Amanda says the decision to get rid of James again. Really believed that James and Todd had something going on and that would have messed up her alliance. Eric thinks it is a no-brainer to get rid of person with two idols. She says if he had used the idol it would have changed the whole game.

FROSTI: Says he isn't sure if he knows Todd. Wants to know why his gameplay deserves a vote from Frosti. Todd things Frosti is a great friend. He says that he wanted to put Frosti on the jury but he did do a big huge lie to Frosti. Frosti says Courtney looks great and she says, "Thanks, dressed up for you." He wants to know what she has to say. Was surprised when Courtney lied and backstabbed him. She promised she'd tell him if his name came up. Courtney says that it wouldn't have changed anything if she had pulled him aside to tell him. She didn't befriend him just to stab him in the back.

JAIME: Has a fun question. Asks Courtney everything that they'd be disappointed to know about Todd. Courtney thinks airing Todd's dirty laundry is pretty redundant because he takes care of that himself. She names how he organized voting out John-Robert and Frosti and then helped Amanda get out James. Jaime grilling her on her thinking that Todd deserves the million more than her. She gives the next question to Todd and he says that Courtney voted exactly the same as he all along. He says she doesn't deserve it because she didn't want nto be here in the first place.

Amanda says she's just trying to be honest. Says she thinks Courtney is ungrateful and that she never appreciated rewards and never put her heart into anything she did. She says that if Todd is that great of a player why did he have to lie to everyone and put himself into this place strategically. Todd gets a chance to come back and says he did the dirty work for the nice girl. Todd says they played their game strategically but he played it more strategically.

DENISE: I'm glad you can look me in the eye, that's nice. She says they all shook her hand and told her she was with them. Denise says Amanda has lied even though she says she didn't. She names off the people Amanda lied to. She says Todd has such a deceptive side to him. Says if you have that in you that you can do it without batting an eye, then you need to turn over a new leaf and need to realize what you do and how it affects people. Denise says she can respect that Courtney is very honest and outspoken.

Jeff letting it all sink in.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, what Denise said about Courtney is true. I think that Court just might win.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Wow, Denise convinced me to root for a Courtney win.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I won't like it if Court wins.
Even though I do believe any of them F3s deserves to win.

She's the one most disrespectful, or catty in her own words, behind people's back!

Woofy
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08-09-2001

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woofy a private message Print Post    
If she wins for Godsake FEED HER! Sheesh

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Time to vote. [Eep, had a moment of panic, I thought my DVR was switching the channels on me.]

Jaime voted for Todd. She was very impressed with his answers and that's why he got her vote. (Said she did not come in planning to vote for him.)

Eric votes for Amanda. Says he thinks she played the most well-rounded game. Related to her struggles to be honest in this game.

Denise votes for Courtney because she always tried to tell her the truth and overcame the most odds. Congratulates her a good job.

We don't see John-Robert's vote but he said, "You just stole a million dollars. Well-played."

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Todd looks so happy just as he said on myspace!

Courtney's not skinny!

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Live in Hollywood for reading of the votes. Wow, all three look really different. Jeff thanks them for being a part of what he thinks was a very good season of Survivor, one of their best.

Jeff going to read the votes now. Reminding them that you want to see your name on the parchment.

Courtney: 2
Amanda: 1
Todd: 4

Todd holding both of their hands. Courtney rubbing his arm.

Todd wins. Courtney and Amanda giving him hugs here as he runs off to hug his family.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Jeff says that Todd was only 14 years old when Survivor debuted. Says it makes him feel old.

Reunion is next and that means I'm done. :-)