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Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
:-) Spoilers for real!
:-) If you don't want to know, please stop now!
:-) I have useless spoilers as well as F6 spoilers. Today the F6!
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But because I had agreements with others who's been digging, I could only give you the ones that's already out in the open. Mind you, this spoiler is Vern, the 18 y.o. who actually traveled to ZheLing while they were still filming(July 27~29th). He picked up news by pure accident, the persons who leaked has no idea what's what, so if it's cryptic, it's not by design.

Also, I am doing this from Chinese, not Vern's exact English in survivorfever.net. (Do check out SF for beautiful pictures that I don't know how to post yet.)

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Five players left on the island. Four are female. One of them Asian, one of them pale & skinny. But she could be the worker(???).
Altogether there has been two Black people. One left, assuming back to the States. One in the Loser Lodge. No Chinese, but a Japanese man just came off the island.

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I notice there's differences between his Chinese words to me and his English words on SF or our other board. But again, the persons who leaked the info to him have absolutely no idea how this game works. They were only talking about the commotions which excited those who's been living in this remote town all their lives!

I told my friends I'm not so certain about these info. But they think this could potentially be the earliest(we knew since the end of July of course) best spoilers we've ever gotten!

So here they are. I just didn't want "my dwelling place" to be left out .....

Alaginger
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Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
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Alaginger
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The two tribes are Fei Long (Flying Dragon) and Zhan Hu (Fighting Tigers):

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Fei Long Tribe (Red)

1- Aaron Reisberger
3- Amanda Kimmel
4- Bobby Bellande
2- Courtney Yates
6- Denise Martin
8- James Clement
5- Leslie Nease
7- Todd Herzog

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Zhan Hu Tribe (Gold)

4- Ashley Massaro
2- Dave Cruser
3- Erik Huffman
7- Jaime Dugan
5- Mike "Frosti" Zernow
1- Peih-Gee "PG" Law
6- Sherea Lloyd
8- Steve "Chicken" Morris

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

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Survivor: China Exclusive: Meet the Zhan Hu Tribe
by Ileane Rudolph - T.V. Guide

The Zhan Hu tribe, Survivor: China
The heat and humidity are "indescribable." The snakes are deadly. And China is one of Survivor's most difficult locations ever. Despite all that, host Jeff Probst — speaking by phone from the rugged camp near the vast man-made Zhelin Lake in eastern China — admits he'd like to stay longer. "Usually I want to go home," he says. "But if somebody said, ‘You have to stay another two weeks,' I'd say, ‘All right.'"

The CBS show, which has been granted unprecedented access to some of China's greatest sites, including the Shaolin Temple and the Great Wall, goes Chinese all the way. Probst says the first episode (premiering Sept. 20 at 8 pm/ET) involves a Buddhist ceremony, which a few tribe members find emotionally overwhelming. A 100-foot-tall replica of a historic temple has been built as the tribal-council set. Plus, players receive The Art of War, Sun Tzu's sixth-century BC treatise on military strategy. They're going to need it. "Survivor is a war," Probst says. "The book deals with leadership and how you defeat the other tribe. It's interesting how much it plays into the game all the way through."

What follows is Probst's take on the Zhan Hu tribe.

THE ZHAN HU (FIGHTING TIGER) TRIBE

1. PEIH-GEE LAW
29, Marina Del Rey, California; music-video dancer turned jeweler
Jeff’s take: "Historically, Peih-Gee's qualities don't bode well. She's quick with an opinion and she's got a lot of them. But Peih-Gee is a player — she's smart and knows how to work with people even though she may have no idea what they're saying behind her back. She understands you can be bossy and make it work."

2. DAVE CRUSER
37, Simi Valley, California; model/actor turned bartender
Jeff’s take: "Dave is crazy. To his credit, he's a workaholic but sometimes to a fault. He fully embraces The Art of War from a strategic point of view — like, how to work with his tribe. Dave jumps out in the first few days and he's a delight to watch in his zaniness. You'll remember Dave for sure."

3. ERIK HUFFMAN
26, Nashville, Tennessee; musician, model
Jeff’s take: "Erik is a throwback to old-school politeness. When we cast him, [Survivor: Africa winner] Ethan went through our heads. He's humble, quiet and a nice guy. There was something refreshing about him being exactly what he said he would be."

4. ASHLEY MASSARO
28, East Northport, New York; WWE SmackDown Diva, beauty queen, reality-show host
Jeff’s take: "Ashley is definitely fit. She told me in casting, ‘On a daily basis I get thrown from 15 feet in the air and land on my back. I think I can push some coconuts around. Put me on the show.' She's strong and she's mouthy and she spends a lot of time running around in very little clothing."

5. MICHAEL "FROSTI" ZERNOW
20, Chicago; film student, parkour expert
Jeff’s take: "He's a good kid who brings something new. Parkour is a mix of gymnastics and martial arts. When we saw his tape, we thought he could just fly over some of our obstacle walls. We've never had somebody that had his kind of physical gift — he'll do a backflip when he's bored. And he's a sharp kid, too. He gets it."

6. SHEREA LLOYD
26, Atlanta; fourth-grade teacher
Jeff’s take: "Sherea is a fish out of water here, but she's a fighter. She is another person who will tell you what she's thinking. Sherea and a few others made me see the beauty and power of announcing who you are and being that person, because that makes you identifiable."

7. JAIMIE DUGAN
22, Columbia, South Carolina; college student
Jeff’s take: "Jaimie is a sorority girl and she's proud of it. The flip side is that's she's very bright. She speaks her mind and she actually makes some sense. She's very flirty, and she's good at it. I knew early on she was kind of the tribe mediator. She can hold her own — she's definitely not wimpy."

8. STEVE "CHICKEN" MORRIS
48, Marion, Virginia; former bouncer/fish breeder/logger turned chicken-farmer
Jeff’s take: "They don't make a lot of guys like Chicken anymore. He's an old-school, hardworking guy who knows what it is to build a shelter, get firewood, build a fire, try to catch fish — and then have lunch. If you put him around people who aren't his age and don't have his work ethic, he doesn't understand. He's going to have to adapt and it's not an easy task."

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
What follows is Probst's take on the Fei Long tribe.

THE FEI LONG (FLYING DRAGON) TRIBE

1. AARON REISBERGER
32, Venice, California; surfing instructor, bartender, restaurant manager
Jeff's take: "Aaron is a threat. He's a charming, good-looking guy, and he's got a side to him that's cold like steel. He's a bartender and he told us that he sizes up people fast to get a bigger tip. He'd tell you one thing and there was always something else going on. He's the guy who could be playing everybody."

2. COURTNEY YATES
26, New York City; waitress
Jeff's take: "Courtney's not the kind of girl who wakes up and says, ‘Should we go catch fish?' She'll say, ‘I need a cup of coffee and a cigarette!' She admits she can be a b*tch with a negative attitude. At first, she is off-putting. But there's something oddly appealing because she's being real. She's tiny, but she can take care of herself with her mouth alone."

3. AMANDA KIMMEL
23, Kalispell, Montana; hiking tour guide, beauty pageant winner
Jeff's take: "Amanda probably is the most physically fit woman this season, very strong and confident. She's been outdoors a lot and she's not afraid of sticks or stones. Plus, she really knows the show — she's watched every episode — and after 15 seasons, that's an advantage."

4. JEAN-ROBERT BELLANDE
36; Las Vegas; professional poker player
Jeff's take: "He's a big guy with a big, big personality, exactly what you want a poker player on Survivor to be. Jean-Robert will tell you what he's going to do and you don't know if he'll do it or not, because he's a card player."

5. LESLIE NEASE
38, Tega Cay, South Carolina; Christian-radio host, fitness instructor
Jeff's take: "Being a Christian-radio host can hurt you if your religious beliefs come ahead of making decisions in this game — say, you can't lie to somebody because of your faith. On the other hand, people might trust you and you could pull the wool over their eyes."

6. DENISE MARTIN
40, Douglas, Massachusetts; school lunch lady, black belt in karate
Jeff's take: "Denise is a likable, blue-collar woman with the most lovely mullet. She has it, she tells us, because it fits her life. There's nothing pretentious about her. She's very honest and endearing and a hard worker. I just adore Denise."

7. TODD HERZOG
22, Pleasant Grove, Utah; flight attendant
Jeff's take: "Todd is a Survivor superfan who's wanted to be on since he was 14. Next to Courtney, he's probably the smallest person here. He's what you look for — a great personality who knows how to play this game."

8. JAMES CLEMENT
30, Lafayette, Louisiana; burial service owner, grave digger
Jeff's take: "He is without question the biggest guy we've had on this show. He's actually a gentle giant, a very decent guy who works extremely hard. But if you rile him up, he'll let you know what he's thinking."

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Over at Survivor Blows, the following potential boot speculation is going on:

1st Boot - Steve (Chicken Man) - older guy
2nd Boot - Ashley (girl that is sick)

Don't forget, it's early, and these are just speculations based on information posters have heard and are trying to figure out.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
CBS announcement of some same and some change to the China episodes:

SURVIVOR: CHINA will once again afford each tribe the opportunity to obtain a Hidden Immunity Idol which may save someone from elimination at a future Tribal Council. This time, two Hidden Immunity Idols will be in plain sight (one at each camp), although the castaways will not realize this at the start of the game. Each week, the winning tribe of the Reward Challenge will be allowed to kidnap someone from the losing tribe. The person who is kidnapped will receive a note from host Jeff Probst before departing for the enemy camp and will be instructed to give it to one member of the enemy tribe (the kidnapped victim will decide who receives it) in private. The clue will inform this person of the Hidden Immunity Idol located somewhere at their camp. This person must then decide if they wish to share the information with their tribe or keep it to themselves. The kidnapped victim will return to their original tribe at the following Immunity Challenge.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Quote from Jeff Probst about Survivor: China
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Instead of the usual tropical island setting, the latest round takes place in an ancient setting in mainland China, a first for an American-produced series.

Sixteen participants face a few new twists.

"We got rid of exile island," said Burnett. "We still have a hidden immunity idol but it is right under their noses."

Burnett says this latest round reminded him the most of the very first Survivor. He continues to be amazed that "people still can't make fire" and that, instead of staying safely under the radar, people are still trying to assume a leadership role "five minutes into the game - the exact opposite of what you are supposed to do."
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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
CHy and Ginger, thanks so much!!!!! great stuff

Max
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08-12-2000

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Ahem, James Clement can come to my place ANY TIME! Whew! Eye candy for sure.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Why will you notice some of the people in the camps wearing dressy clothes?
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"The new season kicks off Sept. 20, with the castaways starting their journey in the center of downtown Shanghai. From there, they'll decamp to HuangPu Mountain's Mi Tuo Temple where they will participate in a Buddhist ceremony after which they will be forced to abandon their worldly possessions.
They will then be dropped off on two separate islands with only the clothes on their backs and divided into two tribes: Fei Long (translation: Flying Dragon) and Zhan Hu (translation: Fighting Tiger). Each tribe will be given a copy of Sun Tzu's The Art of War for motivation and helpful hints on how to play the game."

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, August 31, 2007 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Picture from the first Immunity Challenge:


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It appears the first IC involves both tribes carrying massive Chinese dragons around an obstacle course - over stairs, through muddy water, and so on.

So Who Wins: Since it is reported that Steve (Chicken Man) is the first boot and he is in the Zhan Hu tribe, then Fei Long is the supposed winner of the Immunity Challenge.



Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ginger and all, in that challenge, the Flying Dragon Tribe carries a red Dragon. But the Fighting Tiger has a Gold Tiger. Which myself and some other Chinese had a bit of a chuckle about.

Traditionally, there's only Dragon who will do this Tease. Lion has a little of a role like a clown. Often with two people in the custom rolling on the ground, lying on back with all fours in the air, ... acting cute and so on. But SEG had asked the Chen Nan Custom people to make a special Lion one just to fit the name of the tribe.

Allow me to C&P my own post from Sucks:
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/14153

They say the tradition of Dragon-Tease started in Han Dynasty(about 200BC~220). They used it to praise the Sky(where Gods live) and praying for good(the right amount at the right time) Rains. Much later days the art of Dragon Lantern was developed along with the rest of the lanterns for Lantern Festivals at the end of the celebration of Chinese New Year. But today we use them more often without the lamps inside. We use it for all kinds of Big events. Chinese New Year for sure. But many merchants would have them around to celebrate new opening of shops, ground-breaking of projects and so on. I don't need to explain to you in words, just look at the images and imagine when they move (carefully in sections, especially when lamps are involved!)

In the picture with people "playing" it (in my last post @ 10:30pm), could you see a red-clothed guy with the red ball on the stick? That's the teaser. The Lion in my av. were often used to be teased by a head of lettuce or radishes with greens. They always allow the lion to catch the veggie at the end, it signifies good business for the merchants! This is done on the 5th day of the New Year right before re-opening shops after the rest for New Year.

Looks like SEG has the castaways using the dragon or tiger(??) for a coordination thing rather than it's normal way. They sorta use it like a huge three-leg race type of thing. It's eye-pleasing and all, but it's so wrong to me. Hopefully, walking the maze is not the only thing they'd do with it.
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Sorry if it's a repeat, I can't remember where I said what any longer! :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, September 03, 2007 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
But SEG had asked the Chen Nan Custom people to make a special Lion one just to fit the name of the tribe.~~~ From post above, too late to edit, shoulda been a special TIGER one!

The Lion is in the epi one spoiler thread.

Let me find a small dragon pic, so far every other thing I tried to post are "Too Big"! (I will love it if any one could teach me about resizing. I use Window XP, pix are on Desktop I think.)

Is it too big still? Yep.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
CHY - I wish I could help you figure out sizing. I save a picture to my harddrive and then pull it up on the software that goes to my scanner. I ask the software to give me a preview, and if the picture is too big, I can downsize it with that software. Sometimes it is misleading and I bring a picture that TVCH says is too big, so I just back everything out of my post and live a period(dot), and try posting again after reducing the picture more with the software to my scanner.

There are a lot more savy people here about computers than I am. Sorry I can't help more.

Mocha
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Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 5:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I resize using Microsoft Office Picture Manager. Click on resize and look at the size. Usually anything 300something by 200something will fit. Also I make sure it's below 60kilobytes.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ginger and Mocha, thanks for the help, I'm going to work on that when I have more time.

I thought I've been using Microsoft Office Picture Manager also. But it won't "take" the "re-sized" size after photos are already stored. I'm still trying to figure out how to size picture before it's saved. Right now the only thing I know is to right-click-and-save as...

Thank you again, I learn slow, but I'll get it eventually. :-)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, September 08, 2007 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
SPOILER ... SPOILER ... SPOILER

Additional info from Vern via Survivor Fever (on the Spoiler information page at SF) has the F5 as 4 women including Peih-Gee and 1 man.

Tntitanfan
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Monday, September 10, 2007 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Wow! Have there ever been that many women in the Final Five? Let the season begin!!

Tntitanfan
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Back to say that I don't think ANYBODY can stray into this thread that doesn't want to be spoiled! Fair warning given!!

Alaginger
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Cut and pasting this here for future reference from another website. They got all this information off of the boards that were visible in the videos that Chy gave us links to in the Episode One thread.
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Future Challenges Spoilers Per Base Camp Preview - Challenges Segment

Episode 3 Immunity Challenge: "Blade Runner"
Episode 4 Reward Challenge: "Great Balls of Fire" (nighttime challenge per Base Camp Preview)
Episode 5 Reward Challenge: Tribal Switch. Reward: basket with luxury items
Episode 5 Immunity Challenge: "Plunge, Fill and Pop"
Episode 6 Reward Challenge: "Search and Decode" - (Reward: "Ultimate bathroom experience"
Episode 6 Immunity Challenge: "Name That Spoon" (food challenge)
Episode 7 Reward Challenge: Merge (Merge feast and show)
Episode 7 Immunity Challenge: "Retention to Detail"
Episode 8 Reward Challenge: Unknown
Episode 8 Immunity Challenge: Unknown
Episode 9 Reward Challenge: Unknown
Episode 10 Reward Challenge: Unknown
Episode 10 Immunity Challenge: Unknown
Thanksgiving Week (November 22nd Episode) - Clip Show
Episode 11 Reward Challenge: "Marco Polo"
Episode 12 Reward Challenge: "Zen Archery" (Trip to the Great Wall of China)
Episode 12IC: "Chinese Leftovers"
Episode 13 (Final 4) Reward Challenge: "The Great Wall of Zhelin"
Episode 13 (Final 4) Immunity Challenge: "Offer It Up"

Other Possible Challenges (Source: Challenge Board Spoilers):

Bullocks
Human Gong
A Leg Up
Iron Monkey Q & A
Spin City Guantlet
Egg Drop Soup
Rice Riot
Raining Rice
Toss Up
T'ai Chi Echo

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
SPOILER ... SPOILER ... SPOILER

Per Survivor Phoenix, the last 9 remaining that were picked up off a board during the behind the scenes videos, are:
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Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ginger, I'm not sure that's Jean-Robert.

But this might be why Denise and Todd is spoiled to be winners, since their names are at the very bottom of the list. (Reminds me of fake lists for previous seasons :-), but this one seems real.) I'm glad you said how these are the nine left. F9 as of Epi. 11, after the thanksgiving Re-cape show, I think.

I believe this list to be true, because they need to coordinate the Dream-Teamers with the right fit to be in the practice shoot and such. But that's not necessarily the order.

What do you guys think?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, September 16, 2007 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oh, it's definitely not the order. Somebody at Survivor Phoenix (and they are excellent over there) made an analysis of the board and these are the players that are left. At that point, even those people would not have known who was left in the F3 because they weren't there yet.

I've got another spoiler to bring over, and then I'd like to discuss it because of what you said about Denise and Todd.