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Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I'm a little behind... previouslies on now.

Cruzlvr
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11-13-2003

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cruzlvr a private message Print Post    
Ah good, you are here Raen. I just came on and at first couldn't even see this thread. Thanks for all your wonderful spoiling.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Last TC: Jeff says they are not going right back. They are going to participate in a Reward Challenge right here at TC. They will get to go stay at a Zhoun (sp??) Temple. Winner will take two people with them. It's a rare honor. James very relieved here that Jeff wasn't announcing a double eviction and Jeff teases him about it right before he says the reward challenge will begin right now... except for us because we have to sit through some commercials first.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I'm here... just lost track of time while catching up on last night's TV. You're very welcome! :-)

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
Sometimes you wonder if winning these rewards is really that good if you dont know whats being said and done back at camp. Usually thats when the plotting really gets going.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
He's going to ask them questions. First person to get five points (they get one per) wins.

China is credited with invention of abacus (I know that one's spelled wrong)? True.
Todd, James, PG, and Denise get it right.

Which animal does NOT belong? Rat, rabbit, cat, or rooster? Cat.
Everyone right.

T/F: 99% of the Giant Panda's diet is bamboo? True. Denise gets it wrong.

P/G, James, Todd have 3. Everyone else 2

Capitol of China? Beijing. Everyone but Amanda gets it.
P/G, James, Todd have 4.

In Chinese culture, receiving a red envelope means that inside is... cash.

P/G wins reward. P/G laughs and covers her eyes because she can't look at them. She picks Eric, she says because they have been so starving since the beginning of the season. She also takes Denise.

Everyone going back to camp together. They will leave early in the morning.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Denise is glad to be going but also nervous because you don't know what to expect when you leave camp. You never know what's happening/being said.

As they leave the others say they are going to eat a lot today because they always do that. Todd says it'll be nice to just have the four of them. He tells us that they could keep it this way. James telling them not to be tempted by Eric and PG. Todd says they are in the top 7 together and they can be the top 4. Amanda says she's kind of nodding along to what they're saying but she doesn't feel comfortable going to the top 3 with any of them and this is the time when she can make a change happen.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
It was nice that Denise got asked--she's hardly asked on these kinds of things. But she's right to be worried about the others.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
PG, Eric, and Denise in their plane eating... Denise talking about them being in the final three. Denise says PG is working her strategy. PG wondering who they can pick off. Denise says PG and Eric are definitely on the outside but you don't want to make enemies so "we'll just have to wait and see what happens at this point."

They are walking up to the temple now and they are welcomed. PG says it was really great to be able to experience this being Chinese. Denise talks about how she has opened her own karate school and her black belt is coming up soon. The monks are asking how long she's been doing it and she says 8 years... they joke about her being an expert and she says no, not yet! They laugh.

They are getting to watch the monks demonstrating martial arts now. Denise says it was amazing. She says this was one of the best rewards for her to have won because of this. Denise enjoying the demonstration as is PG. (I'm sure Eric is too but we don't see him much during this part.)

After the demo, kids come out and the three of them get to go down and learn some moves with the kids. The teacher is talking to Denise about having studied Kung Fu and they have her do a little demonstration. Eric says he was impressed. He was like, "Denise. Who knew?" She finishes and they all clap. Denise says she owes PG so much for picking her for this reward and there are no words to express how it felt.

Nighttime and they are eating a meal in the middle of the Temple courtyard and they are talking about their day. They get shown into a room and they thank the monks for their day. PG: "Best. Reward. Ever."

Back at camp... it's raining. Someone says, "This is rough." Todd says the rainstorm is hell. He talks about how bad it was. He says he is done with the rain. As the rain is dying off, the others are arriving back. Todd says he's not getting up, though. Denise says there was no one around when they got back. Amanda came out to greet them and Denise says no one is going to come out and greet PG and Eric.

PG walks back to the cave and says it was pretty cool. PG says it is a mess back at camp and they are like miserable rats there. PG filling them in on the reward now.

Courtney talks about how the cave is her happy place but she doesn't like it when other people decide they like it to and they all come sidling up in there. Especially when they want to talk, like PG coming up.

Todd talks about how he does not enjoy PG at all. Denise told Todd about PG wanting to vote him out and he tells us, "Good job because now I hate your guts."

Eric talking to James now. James says he is just trying to win tomorrow and see how things go. James says he's going to do what the Powers that Be say. Eric wants to know who TBTB are and James says the original five. He's not going to be the one person who goes against them.

James says that Eric isn't really that smart. He should know that James isn't going to go against the group.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Back at camp. Courtney is saying she is over the bamboo. Someone asks if she wants to take a walk... oh, it's Amanda. They have mail. Something about arrogance breeds complacency. Courtney says isn't it dangerous to fling stars at each other?

Amanda talking to Courtney before they go back. She says she has a good idea and thinks they should get rid of James tonight. Courtney asks if she thinks that will work and she thinks it will. They will have to blindside him and Amanda thinks they can do it. She says all they have to do is make sure he doesn't win immunity today. Courtney is ok with it.

IMMUNITY
Each will throw three stars at series of targets for three different amounts of points. PG going first. First star in the ground. Second toss on the board but no score. Third star hits the black target but bounces off. She gets 0.

Todd up next. He just misses the black target. Second shot is too low. Third shot and he gets 3.

Eric is up. He gets 3 on first throw. Just misses on the second throw. He gets another three with the third throw. Eric has 6.

Courtney is up. Amanda cheers her own and Courtney thanks her. Courtney gets 3 on the first throw. She just misses on the second but gets 2 points with it. She gets 1 more point and has 6. She and Eric are tied.

James is up. His second throw gets him 3 and then he gets another 3. He now has 6. Top three are James, Courtney, and Eric.

Amanda is up. Gets 3 points and manages to get another 3. Amanda gets 6. All tied at 6.

Denise's first throw bounces off. Second throw gets 2. She has to get the heart for 5 points or she is out. She just misses the heart so she is out.

Have Top 4 instead of Top 3. All 4 move on to final round.

Each get one throw a piece and target is 10 feet further back.

Courtney up first. She doesn't get anything. Amanda is up. She gets 2 points.

Eric is up. He gets 3 points. He's in first place.

James is up. Eric praying a bit here as James stretches. James doesn't get any points and Eric wins Immunity. PG shaking her head here. Eric will be safe tonight.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
CAMP, PG high fives Eric and congratulates him. James says the immunity challenge was ok. James says Eric won so they'll get rid of PG tonight and then Eric out next week.

Amanda talking to Todd. She tells him she's worried about James and wonders if they should take out James now and solidify their position of control. At first Todd doesn't like it and prefers to get Eric or PG out because they are fighters but as she continues to talk he does admit that now would be the time. All whispering to each other now and confirming that they need to pretend like they are voting out PG and then vote out James instead.

Todd says they will just have to lie to him so he won't play the immunity idol and says that sucks because he likes the guy... but he also likes a million dollars.

In the bamboo area, PG and Eric find one of James' hidden idols. PG says she has one more card to play and she can't go out without a fight. She talks to Amanda about it and now Amanda is telling her that she has to act like she's going out. PG and Eric talking now and PG wants them to both vote out Todd so that even if James plays the idol tonight, Todd will be out. Eric says he is debating whether to go along with that or not... because on the one hand Todd will go out but, on the other, he's risking a lot if he doesn't.

James now talking to Amanda about PG trying to work it. James says tonight is critical. If he gets past tonight, he's good. He will have the idols there and will play the idol if he gets the sense that someone is going to do something.

TC
They are all arriving and jury coming in.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

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Jeff asks Denise about her beaming. He wants to knwo about the reward. She says it was so much fun and the energy from being in the Temple gave her such a lift. PG says it is like beating against a brick wall because they are all "it's numbers." James says PG is doing what she is supposed to do, working hard at it, but why would they allow PG and Eric (the losers) to slide in there now. PG says that isn't accurate because they've been winning the immunity lately so they aren't winners. She says you want people to vote for you in the end.

Todd says that trust is everything. Denise says that she doesn't trust anyone at all. You never know what that's going to be it for you. Jeff wants to know who is NOT concerned about it being them tonight and only Eric raises his hand. Jeff questions that. PG says she has never harbored any illusions to the contrary. She expects it to be here every night.

Time to vote. PG writes down Todd and says it is for insurance. James writes down PG. We don't see Eric's vote. Todd writes down James and says he hopes this works because, if not, he's scared for his life.

Tally ho, Jeff!

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Jeff is back with the votes. Editors using sped up music here to up the anxious factor. Jeff calling for hidden immunity idol if someone is going to play it.

Todd: 1
James: 4
PG: 1

James shaking his head at the second vote for him. PG allowing herself to smile a bit. James made a "oh, damn" face there.

Now he sits with his hand in his chin as Jeff announces his fate. James is out. Todd looks relieved. Jeff says tonight's TC said it all. 9 days left and they are going to be interesting.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't mind playing poker with James. I love James but even I had to laugh....silly silly James. Oh well.

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Next time: Tribe is overwhelmed with emotion and Amanda turns on her closest ally. Everyone's fate is in the hands of Denise.

James: I have the two idols, I guess I should have played them. I'm disappointed in myself. I kind of caught a feeling but I guess I should have listened to it. Playing with those fruit loops and trying to hold things together got too much for me. Guess I played the hand too many times and just got caught up in it.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
#*%&*@!! I really wanted James to win. How about the grace and class he showed at losing. He said it was just a game.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

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I wanted James to win too.
Denise is my fav now!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Dang if it wasn't going to be Aaron winning, I wanted James!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Gotta' love James' class at leaving -- chuckled when he said he rolled the dice one too many times in his "final words." I would have loved to have wiped the smirks off Todd, Courtney, and PG's faces -- at least Amanda had the dignity NOT to look snarky. (Nope -- I'm not as classy as James! LOL It IS a game, they played it well, but I dislike their smug faces at their "genius" move.)

Gumby
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08-14-2004

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James showed real class and a total understanding of the game. He didn't blame and he didn't feel betrayed. He knew he was outplayed. I wanted him to win, but kinda knew it wasn't going to happen. He was too strong of a player.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm so disappointed James didn't play one of his idols. I really wanted him to win! He left with such class -- stating it was a game and he gambled and lost. No obvious bitterness.

The smirks when he didn't play his idol were too much. I thought Todd said it was painful to lie to James. It didn't look very painful at that moment. I hope the jury noticed.

What an exciting episode. And what an amazing reward for Denise. I'm rooting for her now too.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
To be honest, I was kind of glad James got voted out. He was getting a little full of himself, and often made condescending remarks about his teammates. I will say I was VERY impressed with his farewell speech. Very classy!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that the exit speech was very classy. James was a great contestant.

I have to cut Todd, Courtney and PG a little slack for looking a little happy. They took a pretty big gamble (especially Todd) and they must have been pretty relieved and felt pretty good when it worked.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Yes, great exit speech from James. I'm glad he's out though, he had too much power with both the idols and too little understanding of others' feelings.

I agree, Jimmer, the smiles weren't snarkiness, they were relief. Particularly for Todd, he knew if James played an idol he'd most likely be going home.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
I would have liked to have seen the tie breaker between PG and Todd if James had used one of the idols.