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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 6:48 pm
From T.V. Guide --- --- --- Episode Detail: Love Is in the Air - Survivor: China Some castaways fear alliances will be broken after a tribal switch occurs; a physical attraction between two players occurs and leads to the revelation that a hidden immunity idol exists; another castaway is voted out of the game.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 6:52 pm
Per Danni at Survivor Skills, the Love Birds are:
Erik and Jaime on Survivor
Erik and Jaime later.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 6:57 pm
Also from Danni at Survivor Skills: --- --- --- The Switch: Sherea and Frosti for James and Aaron And ... James joins the Zhan Hu tribe with the Fei Long HII in his possession. Also ... the IC takes place almost right after the switch takes place, given nobody time to even catch their breath. Here's a picture of the IC challenge after the switch, and if the words are too hard to read, I'll come back and type them in myself in the next thread.

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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 7:06 pm
I'll try again. The image is too large, so I've tried to shrink the picture and I'm typing in the words below:
The remaining members of Zhan Hu and Fei Long get thrown a classic Survivor curveball tonight (Episode 5) when the two tribes are suddenly switched up and, before they even catch their collective breath, forced to compete for immunity. The title of the challenge - "Plunge, Pull 'n' Pop" - may sound like fizzy fun, but according to the show's challenge producer John Kirhoffer, it's actually one of the season's most grueling. "The survivors had a much harder time than we anticipated" says Kirhoffer. The challenge has two distinct parts. In the first, two members from each tribe start out on a raised platform in the water where, on the word "go," they must alternately dive down as far as 15 feet to pull out a series of bamboo poles that each release a puzzle piece. "And visibility (in the water) wasn't all that great," Kirhoffer laughs. Once all 12 puzzle pieces have "poppped" to the surface, the survivors gather them in a boat and race to shore, where the rest of their respective tribes take over to decipher a complex puzzle. "Who you choose to perform each role," previews Kirhoffer, "will make or break it for your tribe."
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 7:14 pm
Adding something else to a previous post. Survivor Skills says in Episode 5 that James goes to Zhan Hu with the hidden II, but then in another place Survivor Skills says Episode 6 is where James find the hidden II. So....I'm not sure which is these is suppose to be correct. Posting my stuff this evening cause I have to work with the craft show with my women's club Friday, Saturday and Sunday....so time will be short for me on the boards.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, October 11, 2007 - 10:47 pm
Thanks for the info, Ginger. Good work as usual.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:29 am
Okay......here's some pictures this morning.
Looks like Erik is one of the two divers for Zhan Hu during the challenge (the plunge, pull and pop).
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:38 am
Survivor: China Episode 5 Promo VoiceOver Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor ...
Erik: I like you a lot. Jaime: I like you, too. JP: Jaime and Erik explore new territory.
Erik (confessional): I don't know what's going to happen with Jaime and I.
Erik (talking to Jaime): I'm a virgin.
Jaime: *gasp* JP: And a twist...
Amanda: something is going on. JP: ... turns the game on its head.
Aaron: ahhhhhhhh!
Sherea: *squeals*
James: Oh, the humanity.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 11:55 am
"CBS Misdirection, Episode 5" One castaway confesses that he is a virgin while flirting with a tribemate he admits he has a crush on. A physical attraction provokes a shocking reveal--the existence of the Hidden Immunity Idol. And later, chaos abounds after a tribal switch, leading to tears, fears, cracks in tribal loyalties, threats of throwing challenges and a blindsiding vote at Tribal Council.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 1:34 pm
La di da, di da, di da.... Oh My Goodness, I just went back and read about James and the HII, and I see that I misread something. Now that I read it correctly, he supposedly gets switched from Fei Long to Zhan Hu in Episode 5 and takes the Fei Long HII with him, ..... and then in Episode 6 finds that Zhan Hu HII. So....that gives him two of 'em. I'm trying to figure out how this could happen, and if things were to go normally, Fei Long would win the Reward Challenge and kidnap somebody from Zhan Hu who would give James the clue. James would find the HII at Fei Long. Then, just before the Immunity Challenge there is a switch and Aaron and James wind up on Zhan Hu. Very Interesting!!! Supposedly, somewhere down the line, James will make a big boo-boo, and I bet it has something to do with have two of these HII's.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:24 pm
Alright, this is the complete spoiling of Episode 5, so if you don't want to know...don't read. I've been to Survivor Skills where Danni has spelled it out for everybody, and I'm going to try to recap it here since cutting and pasting would be difficult for me, cause it's in 2 or 3 places. The original Zhan Hu tribe decide that they will stick together, so when Sherea and Frosti go to Fei Long, the Zhan Hu tribe decides to throw the challenge. Aaron and Erik do the diving with P.G., Jaime and James working the puzzle pieces. Jaime sabotages the puzzle solving by purposefully getting one piece onto the ground and out of the way. Aaron is the set up, and he is booted in Episode 5 after a Fei Long win. To go a bit further, it seems that Todd and Amanda have pulled James into their confidence to share the Fei Long HII, and when James leaves, he has it with him. Aaron thinks he is in tight with Todd and Amanda, and is not let into the agreement that T&A make with James. But, Aaron is gone anyway per the Zhan Hu plot. Boy, this is some really exciting plotting here!!! Then, the following Episode 6 is when James gets the HII over at Zhan Hu (no telling if he plans to also share that later with Todd and Amanda) and during the Episode Fei Long loses the IC and Sherea gets sent packing. Now...the only thing I don't know is about the Episode 5 Reward Challenge. TDT says there is no challenge cause of the switch, but supposedly there is a reward of good stuff and supplies and it is wondered where does Erik get the bathing suit he is sporting in the IC challenge pictures. Maybe more will come out about this over the week-end.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 5:46 pm
Thanks, Ginger!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 6:05 pm
My Pleasure
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, October 12, 2007 - 9:17 pm
Ginger, I got something in the Hii thread. It's just a confirmation of what we already know. But this swtch up is not fair in my eyes. FL had more clues than ZH. But Hii is hidden at the same place on both Camp grounds?? That could be how James would have both Hii! If the rumores are true, those poor tigers don't even have a clue how their Hii was stolen from <above> their noses! Thanks for putting everything together. I am too tired this week fighting w/ a bad browser and injured back & neck ...
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 5:25 am
Yep, Chy...it does sound like the "switch" gives an unfair advantage. Also, the Hii is up so high, that maybe Todd and Amanda had to include James in order to be able to reach it. I doubt if CBS ever had it figured out that one person would find it at one camp, switch sides, and then get the other one. You know viewers are going to be complaining about that out of the ying-yang, and CBS will have to do something about it before the next Season. I'm leaving this Thursday morning to go see my sister in Alabama for 3 or 4 days and will not get back til Sunday, sometime....so I will not be opening up an Episode 6 thread and maybe you and some helpers with pictures can get it started. I'll hunt my old haunts when I get back and see if there is anything to add from my corner.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 10:06 am
Okay, Ginger. I'll try to hold the fort until you're back. What do you think about putting up Epi 6 right now though? There's stuff out there already and I don't always get the time on PC(One more teenager to go!) .... <There's even stuff out there about S16! Even though I can't share it yet, I could tell you there's a lot found out already that don't always show up on Sucks.>
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 3:40 pm
Hey Chy .... glad you got my message and will be getting the ball rolling. It's not a good idea to put up Episode 6 when we haven't had Episode 5 yet. I tried it once about 2 or 3 seasons ago, and the readers got soooooooo confused. They kept reading the advanced episode for the one coming and I had the hardest time trying to straighten them out. The minute I would have one confused reader set straight, another one would pop up. I think we have a lot of readers who are so, so busy and they just count on us to have the information here for them for a quick read, especially some that just pop in for a read during their lunch break at work. So, my advice is wait and put up Epi 6 the day after the show, or the evening of the show at the very earliest. One thing I do when I have a lot of information about the next episode is cut and paste it into my word processor, and then when I feel comfortable about opening the subject where I think it will not confuse so many readers, it is easier to just pick up and bring over here to the club. As far as S16, you have to inform a moderator by emailing them direct through their profile that you are interested in starting an S16 section, and they will either accomodate you are ask you to wait.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 4:49 am
Pamy - here's your Insider Clips from Episode 4: Tribal Voting What did Zhan Hu have to say when they voted out the third member of their tribe? Erik (Dave): Sorry bro. I know you worked really hard, and I appreciated your work, but I couldn't convince the rest of the tribe it was worth keeping you around. Jaime (Dave): I don't like the fact that you went to the other tribe and told them all my secrets. Sherea (Dave): You are the weakest link. Goodbye. Peih-Gee (Dave): Sorry, Dave. I think you outlasted your usefulness. Frosti ("Crazy Dave"): We tried to help you, we tried to warn you; you just didn't get it. You just kept talking, man. You gotta listen. Dave (Sherea): Be the best teacher you can be.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 4:57 am
This was also in the Insider Clips from Episode 4: Boy, is James on a rant........ It might just make a match-up to one of the Misdirection Clues by CBS. **************
James is Over It James vents his frustrations about his tribe members. What is really bothering him? "For some reason they decided to get on my nerves today. I don't know why they messing with me today. Usually, they leave me alone. I'm up there chilling, making fire, boiling water, for the last three days I've been up there chilling by myself. They've been out here playing, enjoying themselves, which is great. Enjoy yourselves, be one with nature, have fun, socialize, talk and hug, just leave me alone. They've been bothering me up there. They should know better. They should know they're only gonna get a negative response. If you tell me, 'Thank you,' I don't care. I will tell you constantly, 'Thank you,' means getting your ass up and helping me. Thank you doesn't come from words. I can't work off words. I work off physical energy." (cut) "I'm used to hanging out with people who don't have jobs where they actually go into work, where they go into work and go into sweat. My job I can't stop. I can't make up an excuse for why I didn't hoe that. I can't stop moving. These people have excuses. The weather will be bad, or something happened to their dog, or God forbid, something happened to their parents. None of that affects me. I have to do work regardless, whether I'm tired, or hungry, I just gotta keep on moving. Whether it's hot; I'm not gonna go play by the water; I'm only gonna use more energy playing by the water." (cut) "I'm really not getting frustrated yet. I should be frustrated, but I'm used to doing stuff by myself, no big deal. The whole thing that's killing me right now is the whole 'Thank you' and all that other stuff. They'll come up and...'Thank you' would be shown by picking up a jug and getting some water, or help pulling the rope, not go and lay your ass down. Or giving directions or telling me something to do. Just leave me alone and let me make the water. You'll have water, I'll have water, and everything will be all good. That's kind of getting on my nerves, this whole liberal talk thing. It means absolutely nothing, nothing but lip service. This lip service stuff is killing me. It really is. If you don't want to do nothing, don't say nothing. Don't come up to me every five minutes and ask how I'm doing, tell me I'm doing a good job and then go lay your ass down. Apparently you're not that thirsty. Don't complain about what I make the water in; if you don't wanna drink it, you don't have to. Stick your lips back in the algae-filled river." (cut) "They sit down and formulate a great plan. They just go off by themselves, about their business and they don't do anything. They all go lay down, they all come hang out in the water. They're always congregating. That's one of the big things that started aggravating me at first, and it kind of stopped, because everytime they would, I'd bust it up, cause it's pointless. They'll call a big meeting, make me stop what I'm doing to go sit through this meeting, everybody will delegate powers. I'm sent off on a job, I'm doing my work, I'm coming back, and the stuff that everybody else is supposed to be doing, that helps me out and gives me fuel and water, they're not doing it." (cut) "They can hug later on. They can hug by the fire. They can hug while I'm working. So that's what they do now. They gather together and they don't do nothing. They have a big smoke, a big fire, a whole lotta lip, a whole lotta hugging and stuff, all to sit their ass back down and come play in the water. Which is cool. They can do whatever they want. Just leave me alone and let me make my water." (cut) "Right now I'm just so aggravated with these people, I'm almost ready to go home anyway. They're killing me. The thing is I don't mind doing the work. It's not the work, it's not the weather, none of that is killing me anymore. It's the little attitude they give me when I'm chilling and minding my own business. I don't bother them when they're in the pool. They want me to come in the pool and be sociable. I'm like, 'No, we need water.' Leave me alone, and if you keep asking me that, I will give you a more aggressive response. They seem not to learn that, because they're on a damn learning curve. I don't know how many times they got their hands burnt when they were kids, but I'm surprised they have any fingers. It don't make any sense for a person to...and they don't ever get over the hump of learning stuff." (cut) "I do need their help. I can't do everything by myself in the challenges. I probably could, but I'm not in a position to do stuff by myself. There's no way I could do the stuff by myself. They help out when they need it, but the thing that's killing me is this whole lip service thing. They really have a sense of arrogance, like they could do it without me. Please Lord, let them send me home." (cut) "If they ever voted me off, in the next few days they would realize all my bitching and all my nagging really was for a purpose. The next few days would be hard for them. They'd really lose. Not only would they lose their best competitor for the competitions, they'd lose their mama who's over their cooking and cleaning for everybody. So they'd be in dire straits."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 12:42 pm
YAH! thx Ginger! very interesting stuff with James
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 5:23 pm
Just some cute pics for you to enjoy!!!

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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 5:50 pm
Dang, we can see on the show that James is carrying them in the competitions. Didn't know he was carrying them at camp too.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 7:28 pm
Survivor: China Episode 5 Promo VoiceOver VO: Survivor, Thursday....
Amande: Something's going on.
Todd (reading treemail): Choose two warriors from Zhan Hu...
Sherea: (reading treemail): Choose two warriors from Fei Long... VO: A four way kidnap and a critical underwater challenge. Female: Swim, swim! VO: Will both tribes give it their all?
Aaron and Eric for new Zhan Hu
Aaron and floater (probably filled with puzzle pieces
Aaron
Eric (underwater)
puzzle piece before being released
Jeff Probst: Definitely the worst performance at a challenge, yet.
An unhappy James **************************** Note from Ginger: So this tells us how the switch takes place. Each tribe gets to pick two warriors from the other tribe, not realizing that it is for good. And, after the old Zhan Hu members stick together to sabotage the challenge so they can boot Aaron, Jeff Probst says it's the "worst performance".
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 4:41 pm
I can understand James having a different work ethic, but he may not be getting that Survivor is also about alliances and talking too..
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 9:19 am
Here's the latest spoiler from Jeff! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iVT2K6lyU0 We could really see those new swimming gears for the castaways. And Jaime seemed to be trying hard to throw the IC. Looks like James kinda caught on but couldn't do anything about it.
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Shelb724
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 5:39 pm
How much do those symbols under the water look like the symbols on Lost? When i first saw that, that's all i could think of.
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