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Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, October 05, 2007 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
By now we all have some rough ideas as to where they are and what they look like. This subject doesn't have to be labeled spoilers any more. For myself and a few others who are interested, instead of sprinkling these discussion in different episode threads, I hope you won't mind the Hii having a thread in this discussion area!

Where is the Hii? "Hidden in plain sight, ... look up to the Heaven" mumbles were mentioned in the clue, pardon me for not remembering it word for word. Please help me out, add on to this thread about Hii.
Cap where Hii is on the camp (from SP)



Cap. #1 (credit to Sam Baru)


We were shown this one rather clearly in Epi 2 after Leslie got the sealed bamboo tube from Jamie.

Cap. #2 (Credit to VolcanicGlass form Survivor Pheonix)


I thought that is the Hii on FL's camp and it makes sense to me that it would be a slightly different word in the same fashion. But they showed a few other words last night in the epi3 as well.

Cap. #3 and #4 (Credit to VG from SP)





My question for all is, which word on ZH(2,3 &4) do you think was shown to be the Hii? It was a bit confusing to me last night.

Also, has any one seen the same word in Cap #1 on ZH's camp? I only recall it on FeiLong's camp .... More later.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Here's the clue #1 which was on the Episode 2 show. If I find a print-out of the #2 Club from Episode 3, I'll bring it over for you Chy.

Clue # 1-
"What is thought to be hidden
may sometimes be seen.
Though their eyes are not,
yours must be keen."

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Went over to CBS.com, fast-forwarded in the video and picked up Clue #2 for you:
"Waste no more time
in searching the ground.
Towards the heavens
for what's to be found."

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I can't figure out how - if someone ever does catch on where/what the Hii is - they can get it down without someone else in the tribe noticing that it is gone.

It will be interesting to see how this plays out -

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ginger, thanks for the clues! Please feel free to add whatever I over-looked in here. :-)

Tnt, remember Yau-Man having a partner to distract others so he could dig without being seen?

My speculation:
If these people are smart, as soon as they figure out where the Hii is, they ought to try to make a round thing that will fit in the spot.
Chances are, they won't have the leisure though. Plus I'm still uncertain about what the Hii really is! Which word? ... The whole square or if the round will pop out? ...



Camp Fei Loong.

Does it look like any one would notice the word was switched? It would work better if the word is one-sided and on the side NOT facing the shelter.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Since Leslie got kicked out, the only one on Fei Long with a clue right now is Todd, and he only has the #1 clue. He has already made an alliance with Amanda, so he might share it with her...but the way he was talking, I think his big game plan was to get Leslie booted so he would be the only one that had the clue.

On the other team, Zhan Hu, only Jaime has the clues, both #1 and #2. If she gets a partner in crime to help her,
Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler
I'm guessing it will be Erik since they are hyped to become a couple in Episode #5 and also because they are supposedly still dating at this time.


*spoiler involves speculation about a future episode and remaining HG.

Hopefully clue #3 will give more information to the recipient and they will be able to figure it out.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Ideally the round middle part would be removable and underneath would be the same symbol!

You are right, Chy, I had forgotten about Yau-Man's partner -

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Chy, I think previously that you indicated that the words on both HIIs were not in the correct position to be read properly. Perhaps there will be another clue to tell them to twist the circle in the correct direction, so that it comes apart from the main symbol. Obviously, they don't have a chisel to pry it out.

Just a thought here. Bisc

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Yeah, Earl and Yau-Man were my absolute FAVORITE survivors EVER! The ability to trust their partner, I bet those two and their families will be close friends forever!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Link to Leslie's interview after boot. I don't think it has spoilers in there since Leslie doesn't know who won either. But I didn't get to read every word yet. Please don't click on it until some one qualified tells you there's no spoilers in it! ;)

LINK

This is the part concerns Hii!~~
Reality TV World: Did you ever have any idea that the thing in the archway might have actually been the Hidden Immunity Idol?

Leslie: Yes. It was the very first thing I guessed. I told Todd I said, "It's that right there." I said, "But we need to keep looking." Then I saw "The Art of War" -- the scrolls -- because Jeff gave [each tribe] the scroll and I thought, "Oh that's it!" But I should've gone with my first instinct.

It's just there were four of them, because there was one on each side of each pagoda at our camp and I didn't know which one it was. I needed the next clue, and unfortunately, I shared that information with Todd and then ended up leaving. ... (snip) ...

Ha! Four words!
Four exact same words on each camp?
We will need more clues to decipher this.

BTW, Bisc, the word wind(#4) is the only word that's right side up. But how would they know? Jean-Robert might recognize them("Good" words like that shows up in restaurants, weddings, B-Day parties...), but he literally did not get the clues. The way they dislike him so much, he might never get to hunt for the Hii!

ETA: Ginger, seems like you are right about Todd and the clues! I didn't think he tried to get her voted off. I thought Todd was just happy to keep Courtney for some reason.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 2:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Does it say somewhere that all four words are exactly the same? Because maybe three are exactly the same and one is slightly different. Heck, if I had that clue I'd have been checking them all as soon as I could.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Ahhhhhhhh, one on each side of the pagoda - perhaps clue 3 will help them know which is the Hii! If they are exactly the same word, wonder if the angled thing Chy told us about matters?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
testing

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
I thought there was more than one Hii at each camp? That could make things interesting.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
No, Chilli. See the screen caps from SP and others in my 1st post.
The first time we had any inkling of the Hii was in epi 2 when the #1 Charactor Lu` was shown on FL's camp. On ZH's camp, I first saw #2 Fu` real fast and blurry. Then #4 Fung for a tiny longer. VolcanicGlass from Survivor Phoenix told me she saw #2 on both camps in two different epi as well as #3 Sho(?) on ZH's crossbeam.

That's four entirely different charactors so far. But two different words from FL's camp and three different ones from ZH camps. If anyone could grab some caps of different charactors from the next episode, we could examine them and get more confused together! :-)

I never heard that there's gonna be more than one Hii at each camp! Are you sure, Lycan??

<<The upload Attachment won't response, I couldn't load any more caps. Is this every one or is it a hint from TVCH to me?? :-) Or is it something worse?>>

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
You know what would be funny....if the same person found both HII. It could happen cause people are visiting the others camps with the kidnapping thing and there could also be a tribe switch up at some point.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Do you think there is a possibility that the Producers of the show are having somebody go in and change the inner plate when the camp is deserted for challenges? That could be their way of calling attention to the persons with clues at each camp that, "Hey, you better look at this!"
I haven't read that anywhere....just made it up!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, October 08, 2007 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Whereas most of us would recognize a Coke or Nike icon, could it be that the contestants see the "words" as decorations because they can't "read" them? Just wonderin'

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, October 08, 2007 - 5:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Ooooops!, Sea!!!

Here I am trying to advise Chy as to what is considered spoiler/speculation or not and where to put it, and I messed up! Sorry 'bout that.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, October 08, 2007 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Just realized I forgot to post these here:
Remember I said those Charactors are crooked?

Cap. #1 LU` Winfall, Eraning, ...

Cap. #2 FU' Blessings more than materials ...

Cap. #3 Sho Longevity (At least that's what it looks to me now.)

Cap. #4 Fung meaning wind or luck is so far the only one not crooked!!! Accident?? Am I reading too much into all these??? No clue, all guesses!!

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
Chy, no I'm not sure, just something I read before the season. May have been a false clue.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, October 12, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
If anyone catch the whole text of the clue from last night, would you please post it?

TIA!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, October 12, 2007 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
From Raen's spoiling last night:

Todd reading the clues now. Something about creatures at night, the treasure gives them a place to stay. Todd looking up right now and seems to be looking directly at the hidden idol.

Look at VG's cap:

wrong cap, and I didn't mean to post yet, it ran away from me! ...

Those are Bats in the four corners!
(The other ones also have bats-like corners but since those caps are not so clear, I'm using this one for now.)
It doesn't mean Lu is the Hii. Especially since Bat is often used with or in place of FU because they sound exactly the same in Chinese.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, October 12, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
The cap I meant to post with the last post:



Now this part will make sense:

Those are Bats in the four corners!
(The other ones also have bats-like corners but since those caps are not so clear, I'm using this one for now.)


<< Sorry about hogging the thread. The "edit" function won't allow me to switch or re-insert images. :-( >>


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The 3rd Clue in it's entirety:

When creatures of night
take flight as they may,
A treasure they carry
Allows one to stay.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I just couldn't work out what they meant by the bat clue - thanks for pointing out the bats in the corners!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Thank you so much Ginger, for the Third Clue!

So far only message boards had mentioned Bats. I wonder if the castaways would even get that? Which one do you think might get Bat out of a night creature who flys? It's funny, now that I know the answer, it seems so obvious!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think they should get bat from the clue quite easily, the "creatures of the night" phrase is quite closely linked to bats in horror movies. What I can see them being confused about is where the bats are - if there are bats at camp they might be looking for where they come from, if there aren't any bats they're going to be completely lost!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
You're right about getting Bat out of the puzzle easily, I just tried it on my 17 y.0..

How about the fact that the word is crooked? MyDD said she could tell that word is mounted in an angle that makes her want to straighten it!

She's not bilingual but she certainly has seen a lot more Chinese characters than your averege Americans as these castaways are.
What do you guys think? Is it obvious to you that they're mounted crooked?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
It's obvious in that the box (if you imagined a box around the character) is at an angle, and not upright, but as the character itself means nothing to me I don't know if I'd notice it without being prodded.

I'm assuming (judging a book by its cover) that Frosti and Peih-Gee will be familiar with the characters and will know they're at an angle. That might make them pay more attention but more likely they'll just think someone who didn't know put them up!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Kitt, PG definitely should know some Chinese characters. I'm not sure about Frostie though, I don't know how much Japanese up bringing he truly had.

Now Jean-Robert actually speaks Chinese in a very close accent, even better than the old Chinese man with heavy JiangXi accent, LOL! (The lady who cooked at the camp is what to gage on, just a hint. The girl speaks well also.)
I know JR said he'd spent a few years in Taiwan "as a kid" on the show. But I think he was in Taiwan for his High School education, 15,16, 17 or beyond. He was in HS for Americans and non-Chinese, but he still couldn't avoid coming to contact with Chinese writings I should think. (His mother was a missionary working with/for Chinese.)

ETA: Okay, I have to admit, even 19 is still a kid! But the way and when he said it, it sounded like he was talking about an experience he had as a tiny child under ten the oldest ....

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
You got your answer tonight, Lycanthrope!

BTW, Jaime took the FU'. Blessins in everyway of life. 2nd one from the top of this thread. See how the BATS are not as detailed?