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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Naja, thank you! Wow, what a sad thing. Even though Denise was not exactly truthful, I do feel badly for her... She really kind of tarnished herself.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Thanks for posting that link Naja. Now I don't have to watch the Early Show.

Denise looked really stressed on that. What a shame. I liked her on the show.

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Thanks Naja. When Denise was saying all this stuff on the Reunion show, my dh kept saying, there's something more to her story. He didn't believe what she was saying. I was trying to remain neutral to see if the other shoe would drop...and it did. What a shame and she brought this on all by herself. I wish she would have simply ended the interview by saying she would give the $50,000 back.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
She totally should have, There was always the chance that MB would have given it to her anyways....

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Yikes. I suspected Denise wasn't the sharpest tack by her weird answers everytime she was asked a question at TC, but she really showed herself by lying on national tv like that. I feel badly for her, but as they say on BB "You reap what you sow." Maybe Mark Burnett should have "expected the unexpected". lol

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Nerovh you did a good job of what I had been thinking of, I was trying to think of the most politically correct way to say that though I liked her I often thought that Denise was slow. I many times thought she didn't get questions by the way she answered.

Hopefully Denise's kids are not embarrassed or being harrassed by her lie.

Makays
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07-12-2001

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Makays a private message Print Post    
Here is a story this morning on Denise. Ut oh, if it's true, I can't believe she sat on the stage the other night almost crying, acting like she lost her job as the lunch lady.
tsk, tsk, tsk.

Hollywood Insider

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm confused. Survivor films over 39 days, yes? Assume an extra maybe 7 days to get 'em there and all, that's 46 days. Why did she take a 3 month (90+ days) leave of absence?

Racsan
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04-09-2004

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Racsan a private message Print Post    
i would imagine that the workers are unionized.

Not where I live. Teachers belong to a union but it's illegal for them to strike; none of the other jobs are unionized.

Racsan
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04-09-2004

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Racsan a private message Print Post    
Whether there was a union or not, there are payroll records. Not to mention other employees, students, those who live in the town. I would imagine the school has plenty of proof.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
Sherbabe,

Courtney works at The Coffee Shop in Union Square (not the greatest) and she is actually from Boston.

http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/coffee-shop/

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Ever since I saw Denise on the Early Show this morning all distraught, I was thinking how Mark Burnett seems like a nice guy and wouldn't take the money back from Denise...but I think what would make it fair would be for him to give the rest of the cast a check for the same amount. He certainly can afford it with all his hit shows over the years. And I bet he never hands out another check on a whim.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I am really disappointed in Denise. I just cannot figure out why she told that story. It just doesn't make sense for her to make up such a story.

Did she just not realize how it would make her school look? Did she see her story as a harmless little twisting of the truth to make herself look more sympathic?

And did she not realize that her boss would probably be watching? In short what was she thinking?

She had no way to know that Burnett would come up with 50k, and it was too late to appeal to the viewers for the $100,000. So why the bid for sympathy at this late date?

Of course the supt could be doing a harmless little twisting of the truth as well. It could well be that when she came back, she asked for her old lunchroom job back and refused with the story of her being a distraction as an excuse. I don't know that that is true, but there would be no records one way or another to prove it. And since it would be the lunchroom director who was doing the discussing, the supt. would only have the word of the director to go by.

People tend to tell events in such a way to put themselves in the best light.

As for the 90 days, I don't think they always know exactly when they are leaving. Maybe they are told to be prepared within a certain time frame.

And I imagine it takes at least a week or two to get them there and prepared. Don't they get some orientation on the country where they are going to be, And they probably have to undergo last minute medical checkups. Then it probably takes at least that to get them back. I imagine they have to undergo medical checkups again and so forth. And they would need some time to decompress and recover from the physical exhaustion and deprivation they have been subjected to.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
So the "lunch lady" outplayed and outwitted MB.

In fairness, JP brought up the whole thing and there's no way MB hadn't decided on the $50K giveaway beforehand. It was such a dull season, that they wanted some drama at the finale.

Also, JP's the one who brought it up and asked Denise. We've all seen that she's not the most articulate person in the world, so her Morning Show explanation that after being away from her family, she realised how important they were, and wanted her former lunch lady position back, has the ring of truth.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I just watched that part of the reunion again. Denise totally gives the impression that she was demoted from her beloved lunch lady job to cleaning toilets when she got back, and that it wasn't her choice. In my eyes, there really wasn't any other way to interpret the whole schpeel by the way she presented it. Knowing the truth afterwards, you can find hints or parts of the truth in her words, but there is also some flat out lying.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Puzzled, now that you bring it up, I have been thinking of something all morning, but I am at work and can't check it out.

At what point in the show did the announcer say something about a surprize for Denise. Was it before or after she told her story? I thought it was very early in the show, but I would not swear to it.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
There was no word of something special until after Denise told her story. Jeff handed out the 100K texting prize to James toward the end of the show, and right after that, Jeff says he has one more last minute prize. He said during the last break, Mark Burnett was backstage and heard Denise's story, and has decided to give her 50K. Nothing was said earlier about it. They only kept repeating that someone was about to get the 100K prize.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Naja, that has been bugging me all morning, because I just could not remember when the announcement was made.

I guess those of us who liked Denise are just looking for something to explain why she did this. It is really disappointing.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I wish she would have simply ended the interview by saying she would give the $50,000 back.


Yep. Shoot, if you're going to lie, down do it on national television. How brazen of her. I hope her kids are aren't getting hassled at school (or when they go back, if they are not back already).

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Serate
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08-21-2001

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I on the other hand feel sorry for her kids. THEY did not lie on national TV, why should THEY get hassled?

Justfun
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11-08-2005

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justfun a private message Print Post    
On the Early Show, Denise was asked if any part of the account that the super gave was incorrect and she said it was all true.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I feel bad for her kids too, as well as Denise. She went from being one of the most popular, to now being one of the most scorned.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
It is disappointing, but I have to agree with Serate ... why wish ill on her kids? That's unfair.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I think, too, people sometimes get caught up in events and possibly since she had already decided to try the play the need card, she took it too far without thinking of the repercussions.

Really unfortunate.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
She probably hasn't gotten the money yet. The show was just Sunday. She may not have a chance to give it back because she might not ever get it.

I don't wish for her kids to get hassled. Good Lord, it is hard enough on kids these days as it is without wishing this on them.

I don't wven want Denise to get hassled. She is going to be humiliated and devasted by what she has done. She has gone from being one of the favorites to people acting like she is an ax murderer.