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Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I don't like Todd, but based on "outwit, outplay, outlast", my vote for the win goes to him. At least he had the testicles at TC last night to say that to win the million, you have to consider who you can beat at the end, not who "deserves" it, because you have to look out for yourself. And I think he's been one of a few that admitted he doesn't trust anyone. I think that's what some players forget, that no one can be trusted, no matter how many lives they swear on.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
If Courtney were to win would that be the worst winner in Survivor history, or would Jenna still be the worst?

To me it is up for grabs, but I dislike Courtney far worse than I ever disliked Jenna.

Barkley
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08-12-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Barkley a private message Print Post    
PG was a mean person to James and Sherea when she had people on her side . there was NO REASON for her to act like that, condesecnding. and rude. Remember the coffee scene!!! She showed her true personility at that time. When she had a choose, she was MEAN. GOOD RIDDANCE

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Tntitanfan: Back in the Amazon, Jenna gave her immunity to Heidi the week Christy was voted out. Neither was really in danger that week, so it was basically for show.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
good memory Bob...I'm impressed!!

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
P.G. just seemed like a very toxic personality. Not someone you'd really want to get to know.

If Amanda can get Todd out now, she deserves to win, IMO, but if Todd makes it to the jury vote, he should probably win...IMHO...

Courtney and Denise have been along for the ride, or so it seems. Denise is just likable enough to pose a threat if she makes it to the jury vote, however, I don't think Courtney is very well liked by anyone but Frosti. Neither deserves the million, IMO, but if it had to go to one of them, I'd rather it go to Denise.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
GO TODD!!! WOOHOO!!!

So glad PG is finally gone.

Yep, Amanda said Denise, not Courtney, was a puppet.

I kind of like them all now - even Courtney. But Todd deserves the money if he makes it that far.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Allie, I was wrong! Amanda said Denise was the puppet!

Costa, Amanda did not get a ride on any coattail! She benifited Todd's "making Aaron seemed like the leader plan" maybe. But she some how established herself as one of the decision makers, like Todd. But unlike Todd, she doesn't cause any one to say" An unhappy Amanda is a bad Amanda. This we heard at least twice from Courtney about Todd.

Courtney is the one ridding. She said it very early on, ....keep me around, I eat so little... She always go along with Todd and Amanda. The early J-R attempts really didn't matter. If PG won IC last night, she would've gone along and boot Amanda. Jeff and SEG calls her a long shot. I hope that's it for her.

Denise bothers me about her very low opinion of herself. Did she even apply to be on? I also have trouble understanding why she kept on talking about making a move but never did! I would like to see her winning the last IC and get in the F3 to see what the Jury would do. But I don't think she'd do it. Who knows?

Todd and Amanda both played the game well. I have personal likings. But either of them deserves the win in my eyes.

Regarding the Jury, I can't tell if they're going to be emotional or if they'll reward the best player? It will be interesting to see the Jury's view on who played the best game. Hopefully they don't just hate the T&A duo and give the money to Courtney or Denise!

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Todd is starting to look a little like one of those guys on "Planet of the Apes" with all that facial hair.

I didn't dislike Jenna nearly as much after Heidi was gone. I don't mean that I like her, or that I wanted her to win, I just didn't hate her as much after Heidi left. I might actually have liked her a smidge if Heidi hadn't been there. To me, Courtney would be a worse win than Jenna, but not as bad as Vecepia. I didn't think V did ANYTHING at all to win the game.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
Courtney is so unattractive when she rolls her eyes when other people talk. I dislike her for her personality and the fact that she will be in the final three and has a better chance of winning than Amanda and Denise. I wanted Courtney gone the first week.

You never know who the jury will choose, sometimes it has been a surprise and other times we knew ahead of time who would be the most likely to win.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
IMHO, Vecepia was someone who just coasted into the win without much Outwit or Outplay (she just Outlasted).


Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
She outwitted and outplayed the others by outlasting them.

I laugh every time I hear people say "so and so doesn't deserve to win cause he/she didn't do anything." Um, yeah, OK, so do I see your arse out there for 30 some odd days? Surviving competitions, crummy weather, no food? Yeah, didn't think so. The fact that this person (whomever it may be) made it to the final jury, without "doing anything," is as much of an accomplishment as someone who thinks so highly of himself (cough...Todd...cough).

I strongly suspect that those who seem to have no strategy have some of the best. Stay under the radar, don't be a target, survive by letting 'em eat each other, and at the end have no enemies. Personally, I think it's a great outwit/outplay/outlast strategy.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Whoever gets the million "deserved" it, whether they chose to outwit, outplay, or outlast, but I'm well within my rights to prefer seeing one of those strategies rewarded over another.

Vecepia deserved her million, but I pesonally would have enjoyed seeing her get it more if it seemed like what she did was an actual "strategy" instead of due in large part to mere dumb luck.

A lot of people considered Sandra a coaster, but I thoroughly enjoyed seeing her win because I think she spiced her "outlast" up with a little "outwit" and "outplay" every now and then.

And no, you don't see my arse out there for 30 some odd days, but that doesn't mean that I don't have every right to my opinion about the show. Every viewer does.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Is it true that the U.S. stations had some sort of announcement about someone getting $100,000 at the finale?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Nerohv, you can vote up to 5 times at CBS for the contestant you would like to see win $100k.


Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I agree about whoever wins, deserves it. I have always thought that. Some I have not likeed personally and did not like the way they played. We all have our perferences, but I have to say that whoever wins, did what they had to do to win, even if it was do nothing. LOL

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I was wondering about the jury's mindset too. I don't see any vicious diatribes in the making at at the final vote. Overall I thought this was a pretty mellow bunch. Todd and PG were the high strung ones and compared to others from past seasons...they look more like napping infants.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
PG will be vicious. J-R won't be nice, either. I'm looking forward to it.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't know....JR is a professional gambler/poker player. They accept loss pretty well and don't usually dwell on the loss. They move on pretty quickly. We'll see, Sunday. ;)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
He's been giving his mean face at tribal councils, so I think he'll say something. I'm not sure what he says will make sense to anyone but him, but I suspect it will be bitter.

If Courtney or Amanda are in the jury I think they will be quite mean too. PG definitely.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
PG will definitely be mean. Jamie will TRY to be mean, but I don't think she seems bright enough to pull it off. Eric and Frosti will ask game related stuff.

Denise will ask some obvious thing like "at what point did I become number four in your alliance, when you gave me the impression we were in it to the end?" and the finalist will give the standard canned BS answer "well you're so LIKABLE, that I couldn't take you, because you'd win". In reality, she was NEVER going o be a finalist, and the answer is just said to snow her into voting for them.

I strongly believe the finalists will be Amanda, Todd and Courtney. If they go to F2, it will be Todd and Courtney (if one of them win final immunity).

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
If i was on the jury i would vote for Todd to win and if he is voted out then i would vote for Amanda. Todd was the mastermind in the alliance that made it to the end.

And i agree PG will give the most vicious of the jury.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I felt Amanda was more the mastermind than Todd. She was the one who talked him out of putting up (I think it was JR) someone when he wanted to and then talked him into putting that person up when she was ready for him to go. She has manipulated Todd behind the scenes the whole time while keeping him thinking he is in control. Little does he know.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Woot, just voted for James. He was by far the most entertaining this season.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I honestly don't see PG being that mean on the jury. The person she is most pist at is Denise, and she'll probably be on the jury with PG.

I agree with Chilli, I think Amanda has been in control of Todd, most of the game.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I just went over & gave all 5 of my votes to James. I wasn't even aware there was a voters contest until today. It seems that you could vote 5 times each wk & be registered for a 10g win for yourself too with each vote. Shows how busy I've been.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
We only see what the editors show us. We really don't know how much was Amanda, and how much was Todd. I'm looking at the confessionals - and Amanda has not impressed me in that regard. But, that's just my take on it.


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't see Amanda as Todd's brain either. I think she might have got him back on track a couple of times when he was about to make an emotional decision rather than a rational one, but overall I haven't heard (or don't remember hearing) her come up with any plans that worked out. I think Todd's a bright cookie.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I think Todd, Amanda, and Courtney have all played well. Denise is in the final four by good luck, not good management! However, I certainly like her the best of the remaining players -

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think Courtney made a GREAT Move in the reward challenge. She put Denise in the position of being the bad guy picking/excluding people, and protected Todd from doing it too. If Todd had to pick, he'd choose Courtney and Amanda, and that would anger Denise, as she went to the jury next week.


I agree with Kona in that Todd gives good confessionals. I think Todd has had the best head for this GAME than any other player I've seen. I think it's GREAT that he doesn't even trust his own alliance, and actually is LOOKING for signs he will be picked off. Very smart. The only thing he lacks is a bit of control of his temper. He needs to be less conspicuous about what he is thinking/feeling at any given time.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I dont like any of the last four. I would love to see Todd get voted off, picked off --- he is just too damn sure of his control of the game.

Woofy
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08-09-2001

Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woofy a private message Print Post    
Somebody for Godsakes feed Courtney. Sneak her a cheeseburger ... From day one she has been thin, but OMG, between her constantly rolling her eyes and her Gwen Stefani looks, she makes me crazy. If she wins, I'm eating a dozen eclairs .. FEED HER! FEED HER!

Wahmmy
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07-24-2005

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wahmmy a private message Print Post    
I think I finally figured out who Todd looked like at the finale, Eddie Munster all growed up.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
True that!