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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 9:34 pm
I agree, Ketch.
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Hiyall
Member
07-06-2005
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 9:37 pm
I was glad Todd won and I was glad he gave no excuses at tribal council. It is a game and he did what he had to to win it. It was actually refreshing to see someone say "hey I outplayed you deal with it" (in a sense) I was so angry to hear of Denise's troubles after the show. I wish I could write the idiot who fired her and give him a piece of my mind. That is a bunch of crap. I'm sure she will put that 50 grand to good use and she deserves it. I still couldn't stand Courtney or PG. All in all it was an ok season. Now I'm ready for them to bring on my fix of Big Brother!!!!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:08 pm
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:14 pm
I liked this season. They mixed it up and still wish they would not have tribe against tribe but people against people each challange. I loved China as it is a beautiful country that most people can't see often. Someone should look into the school board that demoted Denise. Seems she could have a lawsuit aganst them. Hope they get a message about that situation. Shame!!!!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:19 pm
i did not want todd or courtney until i heard their jury answers. glad todd won. didnt like amanda's sad puppy eyes. happy for james and denise but there is one thing i dont understand. i thought each player got a nice payout depending on how long they remained in the game. like amanda would get 90K and denise 85K. did i just dream this up?
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:34 pm
No you didn't. The pay scale starts at $2500 for Chicken out first. There is a difference between 5th and 4th with 5th getting about $55,000. The pay jumps for the final four which is why they want to get to the final 4 with 4th place $80,000 3rd place $90,000 2nd place $100,000
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:36 pm
They get a stipend, but Denise is/was also an hourly employee, so that stipend is basically replacing her pay. I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that the "real" reason she lost her job was because she didn't report to work when school started because she wasn't back from China yet. Schools are notorious/infamous for NOT allowing any days (even unpaid leave) for opportunities like this. In our district, one lady wasn't "allowed" to go on a cruise that her husband won because it had to be taken at a specific time (during the year). She even had created lessons, etc. so that the places she was visiting could have been incorporated into her curriculum. She was willing to use all her personal days (2) and take the other 3 unpaid, but they refused her. As far as the game --YEAH JAMES! That man still looks hot, and I'm glad he won the 100K. I wasn't thrilled w/Todd (his win reminded me of Brian the car salesman), but I think even if Denise had made it to F3, she would have had a hard time convincing the jury. Even when asked directly why she SHOULD be there w/F4, she said why the rest should NOT keep her. I always enjoy Survivor; this was no exception, and I enjoy it better when there isn't one "horrible" person. This was a fun bunch, and I look forward to the next season. 
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 10:42 pm
that's kinda two different answers from csnog and teachmichigan. if denise was 4th place 80K would likely replace her salary for at least 4 years, not 39 days. i couldnt help wondering if there was some editorial bias to make us think these people return right back to their old lives. i mean james also got a decent payout and i am sure he was approached about modeling and making appearances. i just couldnt see him going straight back to his job. maybe the good stuff will come now that the show is over.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:18 pm
did courtney get 2nd pl???
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:27 pm
Yes, Courtney was second with 2 votes, Amanda only had one. Great ending, everyone seemed positive, and it would be hard for anyone to honestly say Todd didn't work hard to get where he was. I liked him, he had a plan and he stuck to it. Best winner for ages I think, I seem to remember being so fed up with the recent winners.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:33 pm
I loved this season for the location and the types of challenges they had this time around. I just never really got into this cast. Once James left, I just didn't really care. I was trying to root for Denise but just couldn't and as Gidget said, she made in 39 days what would have taken her how long at her normal job to make? The only reason I can see to make it out like Denise is so poor is that she is one of the up-coming all-stars. And since Jeff mentioned twice how popular James was, I would expect to see him again as well. But dang ~ I hate ALL STAR versions!! I will automatically root for all the new people no matter how much I liked an all-star in their original season.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:39 pm
Meant to say - the person who I was most disappointed in during the questions was actually Denise. She seemed sure she would have won if she was in the final three and I am quite sure she wouldn't! I also disliked her seeming to feel she deserved the win for personal reasons rather than for game reasons. My feelings about her really changed.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:45 pm
THx Kitt! I cant believe JP asked Erik if he was stil a virgin!!!! hope Denise gets a job she likes. James is adorable, I love how he is excited that he helped those woman, what a great guy.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Sunday, December 16, 2007 - 11:50 pm
I know! How off was that? Poor Erik. That story from James was great, when he was described as a gravedigger I thought he did the middle of the night stuff, I didn't realise he was so involved with the ceremony. He's a sweet guy, even if he's a bit socially challenged in some ways it's clear his heart is in the right place.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:15 am
I was sorry Amanda didn't win. She seemed to drop the ball in the Q&A. Up until then she had played the best game. She had controlled the game even more than Todd, and won key challenges when she needed to. Her big mistake was in voting out Denise. If she had written Courtney's name down, Denise would've still left but Amanda would've kept her promise and not had reason to be so regretful at the last meeting. Her guilty conscience was her undoing, as Todd was equally guilty but was unapologetic about it. That kind of character usually gets rewarded on this show. I was amazed at how much a well-fed Courtney resembled Nellie Oleson from the Little House series. She and Todd also reminded me of Ugly Betty's Amanda and Marc when they were snarking about Denise.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:24 am
i thought food, soap and makeup made a pretty courtney look drop dead gorgeous. i actually thought amanda was prettier au natural in the jungle.
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 12:45 am
It says in her bio that Denise had opened a karate school. That might not be substantial income, but they must have had at least a little savings to try and open up their own business. (Of course they could also have incurred debt from that via loans and all.) It was nice that the producer gave her some money though after what the school did to her. However, in our school district the custodians are paid much more substantially than the women who work in the lunch program. That's why I was surprised as though Denise sounded as though she took a step down in pay. Some people might not "enjoy" custodial work as much, but I do know by us they make a heck of a lot more money.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 1:36 am
I haven't read anything yet.. but just finished watching and I inexplicably found myself liking Courtney tonight and sort of wanting her to beat Todd. I know, I know... but that's what I was feeling. And I found myself liking Todd even less than before and not caring so much for Amanda either. I agree that she sort of mishandled that last vote. After all Courtney and Todd weren't going to be on the jury, so if she voted for Denise to stay, she'd have had Denise's vote and not lost any other votes. Denise didn't seem to get that being last of three would be better than last of four, money wise, and she still could go for that final immunity. I didn't get that Denise necessarily took a cut in pay but that she had formerly worked hours that let her spend time with her children and husband and the new job basically ruined all of that. I'm not sure how much she got for her 5th place winnings but the $50,000 may have been enough to cause a bank to also back her for the karate studio. Hard to say what sort of overhead she'd have for that (hopefully, insurance..) But I'd think she'd get students in part because she became well known on Survivor. And she'll be doing something she loves, too. I was happy that James won the vote, and that they listed Denise and PG as also being popular. I think that meant a lot to PG.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 1:53 am
I agree that this was Amanda's game to win but she didn't anticipate how Denise would react to being voted out. (I admit I didn't expect Denise to take it that badly and I think Denise was wrong in thinking she would have won the jury vote.) If she had chosen to take Todd out, he would feel very betrayed, but would likely have been more accepting than Denise after having one night to think about it. Even then, Amanda could have won if not for a poor performance at the final TC (which I think also cost Twila in her season).
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Jandy
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 6:20 am
I wonder if Denise's karate school will advertise that she "trained in China"? She did have the reward session???
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 6:27 am
Yep, I agree tht Amanda blew it at the final TC! What PG said about her "doe eyes" was right on!!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:02 am
I never saw Amanda's appeal. I got a sense of coattailing from her. I would have appreciated her more if she tried to get Todd out since it seemed he was her biggest obstacle for winning the game...and that came to be...no one including her should be surprised. Jeff was at his worst with his questioning last night. James was his usually babe last night. I'm not so sure Todd played JR in the way he said at the reunion. He did want JR out becayuse he felt at that point he was his biggest threat sinply because he wasn't sure he could manipulate him. And I thought Toff just wanted to make himself look like the "most smartest" Survivor. The virgin question was wrong in so many ways. tsktsk.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:06 am
Ugh @ Todd winning but he was a great schemer..however what was up with his look??? WEIRD
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:18 am
When Jeff mentioned what Courtney said about Denise, IMOP she didn't seem care that it was a cruel thing! To me it was like her saying* so what she is a looser at life, get over it!* Courtney to me acts like she is better than everyone!
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, December 17, 2007 - 7:34 am
I have to say I was happy Todd won!!! He said all the right answers. I was even rooting for Courtney over Amanda! Loved that PG called Amanda out on her "doe eyes" and puppy dog face too. It was soooo blatantly obvious she was trying for sympathy. blech. James is still hot!
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