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Trini
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07-06-2004

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
..forgot to say I totally enjoyed the puzzle on the long pole.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Let's see, it is NOT OK for Leslie to dislike someone for their beliefs, (Which by the way, she has not inidcated as yet. It is just assumed she won't)

But it is OK to dislike Leslie to for her beliefs.

What is wrong with this picture?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well it depends on what the beliefs are, doesn't it?

(I don't dislike Leslie, by the way. I don't feel very strongly about her one way or another.)

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Allie, of course that's correct. The tolerant do not have to be tolerant of the intolerant, do they?

Like Jim, I don't dislike her either. I just don't agree with her interpretation of the demands of Christianity. As I've said before, she is perfectly within her rights to see it that way. And I am perfectly within my rights to see it differently. :-)

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I thought it was interesting that Jamie chose Leslie for the HII information. What I didn't understand was why Leslie spilled the info - which is golden - to Todd?

The HII idol means "wealth, earnings, loot" according to Chy, so why share it?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Good points Auntiemike and Allietex!

I haven't seen enough to decide about Leslie. Hoping she gets to feeling better and able to play a stronger game, so that I can find out as the game plays out.

Kearie
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07-21-2005

Monday, October 01, 2007 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kearie a private message Print Post    
I would have to go with Leslie on this issue. I could respect the ceremony, learn about it. But there is NO WAY I could bow down in front of an idol of worship, regardless of the the ceremonial meaning.

I don't think I could do it without feeling pyshically ill.

If someone came to my church or my ceremony, I would much prefer they not participate, then to participate mockingly.

Personally, I admire Leslie for holding firm to her faith when it wasn't in her best interest in the GAME of SURVIVOR.

My

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Courtney's outright disrespect was much worse than Leslie removing herself. If someone has to be critical of a player, why has she been missing from the heavy criticism?

It would seem that the Hii would jump right out at Leslie and Todd, since it is a Chinese symbol, but how do they use it if it is staring everyone in the face? Wouldn't someone miss it if they took it down?

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I think part of the reason Courtney is avoiding the heavy criticism is that she acted like a child and there is only so much we can say about that, lol.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, October 02, 2007 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Good question, Gracie! How about a fake substitute Yao-man style?

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
She may have acted like a child, but she is not one. She is as much an adult as Leslie is.

Leslie acted according to her beliefs and principals, and regardless of what one thinks about her beliefs, at least she felt she had a valid reason for her actions. And her distress at the time showed it was not done lightly.

Courtney, on the other hand acted like a spoiled brat. If she did not want to be there, she should have shown some courage like Leslie and removed herself. If she was going to stay, then she should have been respectful.

But Leslie has drawn the major part of the critism. She has all but been accused of being intolerant, narrow minded, rude, arrogant, and a misguided Christian. It has been suggested she is anti gay, and anti Morman.

Courtney, on the other hand is given a shrug and a pass because she acted "like a child."

I guess I am just stupid, but I admit, I just don't get it. Given the choice of a person who acted like an adult, removing herself from a situation rather than act disrespectfully and a person who rolls her eyes and sneers at the ceremony she stayed for, the choice is obvious.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I think both were just incidents at this point. I am not holding that beginning ceremony behavior against either one of them. It matters not to me.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I think that there is not much discussion about what Courtney did because everyone is pretty much in agreement that it was wrong. The reason there is so much discussion about Leslie is that there are differences of opinion of whether she was right or wrong to leave.

Urgrace
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08-19-2000

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Urgrace a private message Print Post    
Good idea TNT! But how would they fashion a fake one Yao-man style? It looks like it has a metallic surface. I found it very interesting that Chy said the producers turned the writing to an angle, too.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Sorta off-topic, but all this talk about Yao-man reminds me how much I enjoyed him.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Gracie - YOU are the artsy-craftsy person. I am a kitchen person! My creativity begins and ends at the kitchen door -

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Merrysea, exactly! :-)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oh, Chy ... I think you are right. I can't believe it, but I think it's Dave (too funny!!!) and (too disgusting). (LOL)