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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:28 am
NEXT TIME ON SURVIVOR · The castaways are thrown, choked, and wrestled as mud flies and tops are ripped off in one of the most physical and dirtiest challenges in Survivor history. · When Leslie feels weak and vulnerable, she receives what she thinks is a gift from God. · Jean-Robert concocts a plan to purposely act lazy in order to get ahead in the game.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 6:57 am
Episode 2 Reward Challenge Speculation per TDT: Mud Wrestling: basic bouts appear to be three-on-three, with one person from each tribe apparently trying to roll the ball back to the starting line, while the others slam each other into the muddy water. The face shots from the intro, have the Zhan Hus all looking fairly happy, the Fei Longs merely look winded.
Shot of the challenge
Frosti looks happy
Erik looks winded
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:01 am
This week should mark the debut of this season's "twist" --- --- the kidnapping of a member of the RC-losing tribe by the winning tribe: "Adding an element of mystery to the game, Hidden Immunity Idol will be situated in plain sight at each camp, though the castaways won't realize it right away. Each week, the tribe that wins the Reward Challenge will have the chance to kidnap a member of the losing tribe. Before the kidnappee departs for the enemy camp, he or she will be handed a note from Jeff Probst and instructed to give it to an opposing tribe member of their choice. The note contains a clue tipping off the recipient to the location of the Hidden Immunity Idol within their camp, information that he or she then must decide whether or not to share with the rest of the tribe. At the next immunity challenge, the kidnapped victim returns to his or her original tribe."
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 7:05 am
The Immunity Challenge from Episode 2: The Fei Long tribe is shown smashing through a wooden barrier with a battering ram. Of the two challenges shown, this one looks to be a more likely one for Fei Long to win, requiring brute strength (which James, who's featured, should largely supply) and teamwork, much as in the Ep1 IC. Also, since it has been spoiled that the ailing Ashley goes home this week, that also points to a Fei Long Immunity win.

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Chy
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07-19-2003
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:08 pm
Great! Ginger! You've got them all. Here's my contribution: Day 4 (28th June) Predominant Weather:Moderate rain & Shower Temp:23--27 Day 5 (29th June) Predominant Weather:Shower to thundershower Temp:25--32 Wind power: less than 3 Day 6 (30th June) Predominant Weather:Thundershower Temp:25--34 Wind power: less than 3 ¨Southeast Tribal Council These were Zhelin's conditions, not NanChang's like many other boards. Started from June 25th, Vern reported these for us everyday. When he made the trip to ZLH, I had the honor to take over the report for a few days. Some one talked about it being a rain season, no kidding! I counted, first nine days will all be with rain or thundershowers! We will have to wait till the 4th episode to have a not-so-soggy one! According to someone in the base camp, the rain usually come after lunch, big and hurry, enough to knock out the power. Even though it stops quick many times, there was always enough of rain to keep their challenge area muddy. 
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Chy
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07-19-2003
| Friday, September 21, 2007 - 9:23 pm
Hahaha... Just watched the preview on CBS dot Com. They are "WET, WILD and MUDDY literally" were the flashing texts! Jeff was heard yelling: Every body is pulling every body's clothes off! ! Ashley and some guy is involved in trash-talking, but they showed JR's face?? They're not in the same tribe. I'm not good at deciphering promos...
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:42 am
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:43 am
Episode 2 Voice Over: Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, at Fei Long, the poker player's bluff is called.
Aaron: Jean-Robert, you need to start pulling your weight. Jean-Robert: Why don't we all rest. Jeff: Dave takes command at Zhan Hu.
Ashley: You're the leader and I'll let you do what you want.
Dave: How many fires have you built, sweetheart?
Dave <confessional>: If she wants a fight I can give her a fight.
Jeff: And the pro wrestler comes out in Ashley <challenge footage>
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:49 am
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 6:54 am
Here's some funny and challenge-savvy pics from the Reward Challenge:

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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 10:14 am
Who was Ashley mad about? At the end of the same promo Ginger(Or True Dork) gets the Caps from, ...You are, so, patriotic! (what?)
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 3:16 pm
Chy...that was where it says Dave takes command...and then she sounds off at Dave, and then he smart mouths her back, and then in a confessional he says "If she wants a fight, I can give her a fight." So, I guess she was mad about being told to do something, and was mad at Dave's way of putting it...that's the way I read it. I only copy the pictures from the True Dork website, or the Survivor Phoenix website, or the Survivor Fever website, depending who has them up first where I can use them. So, I don't know about what a moving promo says. The pictures I see are all still shots. If I see it somewhere and can answer the question about patriotic (what?), I'll come back and post again.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 3:22 pm
oh, Okay.......I saw the video clip over at CBS.com. Ashley is disgusted and is talking about Dave and says, "He is just so patronizing". I looked that up with my online dictionary to make sure I knew what patronizing means and the dictionary says: treating somebody as if he or she is less intelligent or knowledgeable than yourself
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 5:23 pm
Thank you so much, Ginger! I misheard! Plus I kept getting tripped between Dave and Aaron... On to more mistake on my part: I copied my friend's info and said that the fishing help visited on Day 5. Now it seems perhaps it was July 5... I wonder if those purple words could be erased somehow?? Ginger, VG has more caps of muddy, soggy tigers up on Survivor Phoenix now. Didn't Jeff say something about how a tribe went back after a challenge to find their camp flooded?(I thought it was washed away, maybe just flooded by mud soup! 
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 22, 2007 - 7:28 pm
Are these the ones, Chy?

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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 9:33 am
Yeah, that's them. Thanks! Jean-Robert on the FeiLong tribe thought his biggest problem was being too soggy to the point of not able to sleep. At least he wasn't with this soupy tribe! 
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 10:16 am
Description of the Reward Challenge from Survivor Fever: ********************************** Episode 2 Reward Challenge CBS Website Show Description: "The castaways are thrown, choked, and wrestled as mud flies and tops are ripped off in one of the most physical and dirtiest challenges in Survivor history." Tarps and blankets are visible on challenge stand next to Jeff Probst. Challenge Mechanics: Jeff Probst will release large geodesic type balls, pairs at a time, down two mill-like troughs. There are three levers. The tribes will fight to get control of their balls and roll them to their respective colored mats. Full contact wrestling is allowed. *********************************** And, as reported earlier, they are 3 against 3 for each segment....so for those that want to do the "who sets out" for playing some online game, I would guess that nobody sits out.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 12:30 pm
Ginger/Chy.,...in your super sleuthing have you come across the answer to what Chicken gave Jeff as he left TC??? TIA
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 5:02 pm
From an interview with Chicken: Reality TV World: You gave something to Jeff Probst when you were leaving the temple and he was handing you your tribe's map and book -- what was it? Chicken: I had my watch on... I took my watch off to give it to him.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, September 23, 2007 - 8:12 pm
THanks Ginger!! you rock!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 5:49 pm
TDT speculates that Jaime is the survivor who is kidnapped by the other tribe. They jokingly call Jaime the shoe thief, and I think it is from these pictures during the mud figure where Jaime pulls off Denise's shoe and tosses it into the mud.
I really like this picture. Two against one and James makes it look sooooooooo easy (LOL).
And this pic is priceless.........somebody is about to lose their britches. Too funny!!!
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Monday, September 24, 2007 - 8:30 pm
Wow, Ginger. The fourth pic in you 5:48 post really shows just how ripped James is. Kind of reminds me of Atlas holding up the world...lol
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 6:39 am
Pamy .... here's your favorite thing!!! Hear what the tribe members had to say at the voting confessional when they ousted "Chicken Man". ******************************* Tribal Council Watch as Zhan Hu attends their first Tribal Council. What did they have to say while casting their votes? Frosti ("Chicken"): It's all about harmony, man. Ashley ("PG"): I'm voting for PG, because I feel like the group already has a leader and that's Dave. I think Chicken is the wrong choice because we need the strength of a man to build the shelter right now. Erik ("Chicken"): Sorry, man. There was just too much information going on in the tribe that was saying you were lying. I didn't know who to believe, so I went with the numbers. Sherea ("Chicken"): My vote is for you because you act like you're not playing the game but you really are. Chicken ("Ashley"): Just bad luck, wrong time, wrong place. Jaime ("Chicken"): You kept lying way too much. Dave ("Ashley"): I would love to see you actually apply more of what we need. Peih-Gee ("Chicken"): Chicken, you get my vote because I think you truly lived up to your nickname and you've been too afraid, too shrewd to step up to anything. We don't need that right now.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 9:31 am
I think these reasons say a lot. Sometimes good sometimes no so good. Thanks for posting this!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:16 am
But, I don't remember ever shown of how Chicken lied. Did I miss it? Funny Ashley is going against the tribe for Dave, but Dave rather get rid of her!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:30 am
Ginger, in the last bunch of caps you posted on Monday, I think Jean-Robert the poker player who went to HS in Taiwan was the one who's at risk of loosing his pants! (Why couldn't it be James, hehehe...) About the kidnapped one being Jamie.... People used the mud-soup camp picture you posted on Sat. as evidence that Jamie wasn't with her own tribe. But the same people think ZH was the one who won the RC. Then again, RC winners should not have to be the kidnapped, I thought? So, if one is playing on-line games, better think that one through. I'm still confused if someone could point out where I got tangled, I'll really appreciate that! My simple explanation is that, ZH lost at both RC and IC. BTW, forgot to say, Thank you ginger for posting their thoughts.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 7:01 pm
YAH Thx Ginger!!!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 7:24 pm
Aha ....... I see that TDT has changed their guess for the Reward Challenge winner. At first, they had guessed that ZH won because all the ZH's looked happy and the FL just looked winded. But, now they are saying they speculate that FL wins the Reward challenge because of the picture of ZH coming back to a flooded camp, with no Jaime in the picture (she must have been kidnapped by FL) and no winning blankets showing up. So, based on that....if TDT is correct: RC - FL (for blankets, etc.) Kidnapped - Jaime Jaime gives letter with Hidden II info to ????? IC - FL Boot - Ashley Thanks for making me go back over and check that out CHY. I didn't see anything about the kidnapping suspect at Survivor Fever, and at Survivor Blows, this evening, I see the "State of the Spoiling" is up and they discussed the Jaime thing more thoroughly. Now, let's see if we actually have it all right...only tomorrow night will tell. I'm curious as to who gets the info regarding the hidden II. I'm also curious to see if the person that was kidnapped gets to read the information before they hand it over....I don't think so!
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 10:51 pm
Ashley ("PG"): . . . I think Chicken is the wrong choice because we need the strength of a man to build the shelter right now. While it's always nice to have men around to do the heavy work, I'd have to get rid of a tribemate who thought we needed men for that and voted other women out to save themselves some hard work.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 5:05 am
Do we know yet whose says the line that is the show's title?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 6:23 am
None of the sites I visit seem to know for sure, Titan!!! They all seem to be heavily guessing at Todd or Jaime, possibly Sherea. They also seem to think it has something to do with the mud wrestling and the clothes being pulled off during the scuffle. Of course, CBS would blur it out for television, but the person on the other end wouldn't be thinking that way. The biggest discussion I found on it was over at Survivor Sucks. Some were talking about the fact they had to come to camp in nice clothes and were left with their underwear to wear around camp, and in some cases, contestants didn't have on underwear...briefs in the case of 2 or 3 guys, and a bra in the case of at least 1 gal (Jaime). But, the discussion goes on that since that was covered in last week's show, they think this week's title will refer to something different, and probably the mud wrestling exposure thing.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 8:08 am
Thanks, Ginger! You rock -
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, September 27, 2007 - 9:18 pm
Ginger, I didn't have time to come around earlier today, but I'm so glad you took me seriously! I was asking that question on Sucks since last week! I said Todd sits out and Jamie's not in the mud-soup camp ground. Plus they didn't look like they just had a morale boost that one would get after winning.
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