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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:40 pm
Yea.......thanks Jimmer! This is the thread where we will put spoilers that relate to the whole season and not just a specific episode. If you only want to know about the next episode, don't read this thread. Things like the Final Two/Three might be here......or other things you don't care to know in advance!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:47 pm
You're welcome. That's a great start Alaginger. I think I'll copy your post and put it in the Announcement section so it stays at the top of the thread.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:53 pm
wahooooo!!!! Ginger is here, Survivor is near!!!!! Ginger, great to see ya !!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 5:23 pm
Tribe Colors: Yellow = Foa Foa Tribe Purple = Galu Tribe Merged Tribe: Blue
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 5:41 pm
Two quotes from Jeff Probst with spoiler insight: "Samoa is very beautiful - and it kicked the ass of two people to the point where they had to be evacuated," Probst told Canwest News Service in a long, wide-ranging conversation. "It was hot, and then it rained. And it rained for about a week. They didn't have fire. And they couldn't get water. It was hard. It was definitely hard." "This season, we have one of our most dastardly guys ever. One of the greatest villains in our history. And this is our 19th season. He's had to beat a lot of people. And somebody like that could still theoretically win the game, if they pulled a Richard Hatch."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:08 pm
my thoughts are that the villian has to make jury and possibly final 4 or 2 because I doubt you would be named the villian in history if you were just there for a few eppys. I also heard Russell and another girl were asked to be on allstars, read at some off the wall board, not sure if true but if true they must make jury
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 4:41 am
Survivor Samoa - Jeff Probst Cast Assessment This group reminds me a little bit of Fans Vs. Favorites in terms of there's a sense of fun. Erik is a guy that, I actually wouldn't mind seeing Erik win. I like him, there's something about Erik that I root for. I think he's a scrapper. I don't think that guy would ever think of giving up but I do think he will double-cross as soon as he has to. Ashley is already surprising me. I actually thought coming in that Ashley was just a bubbly fun person but the more I've seen her out there I actually think there's something to her. I think she's really got some spunk, some true gut. It wouldn't surprise me at all for her to go deep in the game. Dave Ball is a very interesting guy. Highest IQ, maybe of all time. His IQ was 140 and I'm pretty sure that's the highest we've ever had. Dave has something to prove, I don't know if it's to family or to himself, part of the reason he's out here is to prove that he can do it. Now, Dave could easily self-destruct. That's going to be his biggest challenge is to stay out of his own way. Russell Swan is pretty likeable. He's a great talker. He's got this engaging way about him. I don't think Russell can win the game. It's not that he's not savvy enough. I don't think Russell is built for a game like this that requires so much deception. So somebody is going to lose, I think it's going to be Russell. Russell Hantz is the closest thing to evil we've ever had on Survivor. The guy has got a diabolical mind. He's got this great big idea that if I sabotage my own tribe they'll be so weak they'll be out of the game. Well that might be true but so will you. It is a tribe game for a long time. Russell has either forgotten or is unaware that this is a social game. He may get second, he damn sure aint gonna win. Brett's a bit of a dark horse. He's kind of hanging back with a cheery smile and "I just wanna do whatever I can to help out and play hard at challenges." But there's another side to Brett. He's done a good job of not revealing a lot. He could bode very well in this game. Typically, the less you show, the better off you are. Brett hasn't shown a whole lot yet. You know they say sometimes when you meet somebody they tell you everything about themselves the first few minutes if you really listen...I don't even think you have to talk to Kelly. You can just look at her. She's got "caution" and "trouble" tattooed on her body. And she's so cute, 9 out of 10 guys are gonna go..."I don't care I'm gonna take a chance anyway" and they'll probably pay the price for it. The funny thing about Shannon is, everybody thought her name was Shannon, she said, I go by Shannon, that's what my name is...and then I asked her one day one, what's your name, "Shambo." She just reinvented herself. What a great name, Shambo. And I like her mullet, fits her to a T. Girl rides a Harley, you can see her hair blowing in the wind. She's an all American person. A real person there. Yasmin is a question mark for me. On one hand she seems very athletic like she could do very well at the challenges. On the other hand, not really sure how she's gonna feel about going into the woods to go to the bathroom. I don't know about Yasmin. If she was first off I wouldn't be surprised. I just think she's used to a softer life. Liz is not everything she appears to be. Liz comes off as a quiet confident nice person. Don't trust Liz. Liz could go far and I think she'll be a quiet person who maybe doesn't say a whole lot and before you know it, she's in the final. Ben is a time bomb. Dude is a time bomb waiting to go off, the question is when. It's gonna happen. If he lasts long enough in this game Ben will go off, like a bottle rocket. And then the question will be if he can recover from it. He's a really complicated and interesting player. Definitely want Ben to stick around. Laura is one of my favorites. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that I think Laura could win this game. I think there's a lot more to her than meets the eye. Unless I'm completely wrong I think people are going to look at her and say she's real. I think if you let Laura get deep in the game, huge threat. Mike Borassi, not long for the game. He's not going to last long in this game. I just don't think so. It's too hard out here. I think Mike is going to make a few friends and maybe reveal he's a chef and cook up some food and then he's going to be gone, episode 5 or 6. I liked Betsy the second I met her. I think one of the appealing things about her is that she's not what you expect. Clearly, somebody who is a cop is willing to go however far you have to go. Betsy is a major threat in this game because she is really likeable and she will never quit and if you need somebody to dig down and do something, get Betsy to do it because she will. Marisa, on paper, tailor made for Survivor. All these experiences around the world, taking care of her family and she's a nurturer but I think she might get eaten up just because she's not going to end up with the right people and she's going to become a sitting duck and she's going to be an early target. I wish Marisa would go deeper but if I had to bet, she'll be out by episode 5. I think Natalie is a scrapper. If you look at Natalie you might think, pretty girl who doesn't want to break her nails. I don't know, Natalie might surprise some people. I think she might get up there and bang her knees up a couple of times and get some bumps and bruises and then play the social part of this game really well. You know what, I don't trust Mick. I really don't. I think Mick is a guy who's a good looking guy, smart guy, probably a bit of privilege. Mick's the kind of guy who could manipulate people and get them to do what he wants and then not realize that he doesn't care about them as much as he's pretending to. I think Mick is probably a pretty good player. I bet he's played quite a few people. John Fincher is a poser. I think Fincher has been a guy that is so good looking that for so many years he's been given things. I don't know if he's come from privilege or if he's just made privilege work for him. He has the appearance of a guy who's used to having things work. Monica is the type of woman that you look at and your angel inside of you says "don't do it, trouble." And then you look a little more and the devil says, "life is short, go for it." I think Monica will have a tougher time playing guys than she thinks but I think historically Monica is really good at it and probably more subtle than I realize and some of the guys out here realize. I really like Jaison. I liked him the second he walked into casting. I don't think Jaison is going to become an early target. There's no reason. He's not going to irritate anyone. He's gonna do just enough to help give you the power that you think it's your idea and agree with you. Before you know it we're way into the jury and Jaison is now a huge physical threat that could kick your ass in every single challenge. You fool, you let him stay in the game this long, you fool. I would love to give that check to Jaison.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 4:55 pm
Regarding Survivor 20 - starts in August? I'm not bringing anything over regarding Survivor 20, except this link at TDT in case any of you are interested at the list of speculated all-star players and spoilers. Please do not discuss any of it here as this thread is for Survivor 19 which starts next week. http://truedorktimes.com/s20/spoilers/index.htm
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:52 pm
Ginger, great stuff! love the JP interview well my guess was right Russel is the villian and I would imagine he at least makes merge if not final 4. I think Ashley is the name of the girl I heard for allstars
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Knightpatti
Member
12-06-2001
| Wednesday, September 09, 2009 - 7:16 am
Hey Ginger! Thanks for the info!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 4:43 am
Outfrontgirl from Survivor Blows had this telling summary to report regarding the two evacuees that Jeff Probst talks about. ************************************* "Samoa is very beautiful - and it kicked the a.s.s. of two people to the point where they had to be evacuated," Probst told Canwest News Service in a long, wide-ranging conversation. "It was hot, and then it rained. And it rained for about a week. They didn't have fire. And they couldn't get water. It was hard. It was definitely hard." No significant rain from June 11th to 19th, as measured at Faleolo Airport somewhat to the northwest, but according to Weather Underground stats it rained 9.8 inches or almost TEN inches on June 20th, Day TEN according to TDT. Although that was the only huge rain, it continued to rain 1/2 and inch to 3/4 inch a day through the 26th, which I guess is enough to keep it wet and accords with Jeff's statement of a week exactly. On the 27th it stopped and there was no significant precipitation after that (less than 1/10 of an inch per day). Nor was there significant rain prior to the big dump. I think we should expect the trouble to start in Ep 4, as even if they do a short cycle it will still be Ep 4. Allow the situation to build, perhaps, to Ep 5, or Day 16.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 2:18 pm
Jeff Probst Tosses a Player Out of a Challenge on Survivor: Samoa (EW 9.14.09) Entertainment Weekly's Daton Ross Interviews Jeff Probst Transcript Below | Video Link >> Jeff: Survivor: Samoa. Well the first thing that comes to mind is the weather. Between the combination of the heat and the rain, dehydration plays a huge role. That would be capital letters followed by an OMG. The other thing about Survivor: Samoa is some huge characters. Some guys that just leap off the screen day one including this guy Russell who is as far as I can tell, an evil man, through and through. But what's really scary is that he's so charming that I could see myself teaming up with him and falling for some of his BS, even though I know going in, he's evil. That, those are great skills to bring into this game. Another guy is Ben from this season. Ben: I've lived in third world Africa when I was little so I'm prepared. Jeff: Big dude, Beverly Hills bartender, cool, strong, a little scary, extremely opinionated. He's somebody else you're gonna know. There's a guy, Jaison, big-time athlete, Stanford swimmer. Jaison: Discipline, discipline, discipline. Jeff: But he's also a very good thinker. I think that's somebody people are going to notice. One of my all time favorite characters, Shambo. Her name is Shannon but when we started I said," introduce yourself", and she said, "Shambo." With that created this, I don't know if it's a character or actually her but she sports a mullet that she proudly dates back to the eighties. She says, "I will never cut it, it is my identity." I think Shambo is going to be an audience favorite. I'm not sure but I think rather than be annoying people like my mom are going to really like her and relate to her because she's kind of an every person. She looks like a normal person, she talks like a normal person and she really loves Survivor. Shannon: They love the curl on the girl. Dalton Ross: Some seasons are very twist heavy, some are very light on the twists. What can we expect with Samoa? Probst: One thing we did in Samoa is, we used part of the culture in our creative. In Samoa, right here on this island that we're on, each village has a chief. The chief actually does things. He, it's a he, he is responsible for making decisions that are supposed to help the community. That's sort of the idea. We took that same thing and right off the bat the two tribes are going to do a blind vote and have to elect a chief and that person is going to make decisions on behalf of the tribe. The idea is, it won't be a "what do you think guys". It will be, what do YOU think? You're in charge. Things like, here's a choice, do you want comfort, pillows, things like that or do you want a tarp? It plays out very interesting who they pick, very interesting what happens to the leaders and just the whole notion of whether a leader can survive in this game, coming into it with that target on their back. Is it different if you say "I want to be the leader" versus you were appointed the leader by your tribe. Dalton: What about challenges this season? What are some things we can look forward to as far as the challenges? Probst: We have some very physical challenges. Very physical. Very physical. For the first time in the history of Survivor, I throw somebody out of Survivor. Dalton: Nice! About time! Probst: Didn't want to do it. Didn't want to do it but I had to. I'd say it's a pretty noteworthy moment considering we've run 500 some odd challenges. Never come close to throwing somebody out of a challenge. This one was a no-brainer, the second it happened, done, out. Lucky we didn't throw you out of the game.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 4:50 am
Wednesday Morning and checking out which way people are thinking at Survivor Blows and TDT: The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up over at Survivor Blows, done by poster Kircon. Results: RC - Foa Foa Exile - None (Hidden II's buried at the two camps but only players from the other camp are allowed to find them and have to be invited over) IC - Galu Boot - Marisa (with Betsy as a 2nd potential) The voting thread is also open at Survivor Blows, with 5 people voting already, and it's split between Marisa and Betsy TDT as of this morning: RC - Foa Foa Exile - None IC - Galu Boot - Mike? Liz? Betsy?
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 4:48 pm
Way to go, Ginger! So good to be back here with you again.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 5:44 pm
nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!! I thought she would go far and I got her in the dang office pool!!!

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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 8:59 am
This morning, I was listening to the local radio program and Laura (from Salem, OR) was on. I only caught the middle of the conversation, but she did say something interesting. Laura had torn her Achilles tendon 3 weeks prior to going on Survivor. It sounded like she tried to keep it hidden from the others. So, when you see her run awkwardly, it's because of the achilles tendon issue. This sort of conflicts with Jeff's assesment of her above .. that she could go far.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 11:11 am
Wow....that is conflicting!!!
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 4:29 pm
Okay, what is this I am reading in a couple places about Russell H being in Survivor 20? Where is that coming from? I think the first place I saw it was on True Dork Times, mentioning S20, and I did not know what it meant. Now I see from Ladytex's boxed SPOILER in Russell H's thread that it means he is rumored to be cast in Survivor 20, which I guess is the next one.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 5:55 pm
JuJu ... please read my post in this thread ... 9/8/09 5:55 pm We have to discuss S20 somewhere else, once it is set up.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 8:02 pm
Juju, was that a record? being banned from a thread after only ep 2? 
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 8:42 pm
Pamy, I do believe I have set a new record in being banned from threads here. Thanks for the link, Alaginger

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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 9:20 pm
LMAO at the mod that did that!!!!!!! (jimmer? Lori?) hahahahahahahh
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 25, 2009 - 12:25 pm
(LOL) Do we have a link for an S20 thread here at TVCH? If so, I wouldn't mind having that link, also. I keep running into stuff about it, but can't put it in with S19 stuff (as Juju found out). Back to S19. A quote from Jeff right after winning his Emmy, about S19 and Evacuations. "Are there other surprises coming up with this season? It’s a physical season. We have two medical evacuations. Some people push themselves harder than their bodies can take, and our doctors are telling us that infections are spreading more now and these things are really happening. I remember James [Clement] got pulled for having an infection in his finger to which I said, “We are going to lose one of our stars?” And the doctor said, “He’s going to lose his hand.” They say they are not changing their protocol but the world is changing. In Samoa we had 115 degrees every day and a period where for a week it rained nonstop and they had no water. We had one of the scariest moments ever for me on one evacuation. I was really scared.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, September 25, 2009 - 8:19 pm
Mods! Oh, dear Moddies? Could we perhaps get a thread for Survivor 20 All Stars 2010 so we can talk about the elephant in the room? Ack!!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 4:00 pm
I think there is a thread about allstars in the general Survivor thread area. This info cannot be considered TOO spoilerish since it appeared in print in the EW Magazine but it looks like the second evacuation MIGHT not be until the Oct 22 episode. Anatomy of a 'Survivor' Challenge Survivor challenge producer John Kirhoffer wrote us from Samon (via a message in a bottle) with a sneak peek at the preparations behind an upcoming reward challenge We often discuss our favorite challenges from the past, one being "Monkeys in a Barrel" from the Cook Islands, where people were rolled around inside a wooden barrel. (A basic rule of thum is "Dizzy people are funny.") To change it up a bit, this time we came up with a design for a "Helio-sphere" apparatus, and assigned a team of prop makers to begin welding up the actual spheres. After testing the challenge (which we dubbed "Roll With It"), we realized the onlyh way to keep the person inside safe was to strap them in. We then decided to blindfold the rest of the tribe and have the dizzy person inside guide them through the course. Continuing with the rolling-ball theme, the person inside would have to guide the four blindgolded players to roll a ball through a large table maze. During our rehearsals we made some modifications. We originally had several obstacles on the course, with different stations for the players to stop the giant ball and retrieve bags of puzzle pieces through a series of wacky and overly complicated maneuvers. We soon learned that was counter-productive to the raw fun and energy of racing the ball blindfolded along the course to the puzzle table. By the time the actual contestants played the game, it worked beautifully -- until unrelated dehydration caused one of our players to collapse and Jeff Probst had to get the person immediate medical attention (see what happens Oct. 22 on CBS). So, after all that, we never even got to see "roll With It" play through to completion. To see a rehearsal for this challenge, go to ew.com/ontheset Hey, this is pretty cool! http://tinyurl.com/ydhqz7e Ginger.. not sure where this info can be used.. Seems to tell us that on the show the 22nd there will still be 5 on each tribe at least (one in the sphere, two pushing, two manipulating the ball/maze table. Currently we have six on the yellow tribe, and if there are shows on both the 8th and the 15th of October, that means that the yellow tribe may have one at least one immunity before the show that airs the 22nd. This could be the second removal for medical, or not. So wherever, whatever, whenever.. feel free to use this info.
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