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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 7:14 am
These camera crews are paid to follow the contestants from place to place...I'm sure there would be hell to pay if they missed an important event.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:07 am
In all the years I have watched Survivor, no one has ever found an idol off camera. They are watched 24/7 in case something important happens. And yes, in previous years, the idol was back in play under two conditions - someone didn't take it home, and it was used early enough in the game. Many times someone holds the idol until it is no longer useful, and then it's not put back into play.
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:39 am
Am I the only one who finds Natalie downright adorable?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:53 am
Karuuna, how would you know if they never found it off camera if they filmed a reenactment? You wouldn't.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:11 am
Russell is my fav player of all time!!!! I screamed with delight when he found that idol!! LOL! love him!!! LOL that he basically ran in a big circle and lost them! hahahahah I wonder if anyone knows he found it again. This season has the best TCs ever! Russell has made this season rock! If not for him it would have been a boring Pagong after the merge.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:23 am
Nervoh, I also find her adorable. John is probably the hottest rocket scientist in the world! Mick and Jaison are sooo good looking and smart. I hope they are all in the finals with Russell.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:36 am
Concerning the camera just happening to be there when Russel finds the idols, I have no doubt that if there are instances where the camera wasn't there, that they had him reenact finding it for the camera. But I don't think they helped him find it in the first place. Would they have hidden cameras around the area where the II was hidden? It seems it would be hard for Russel to get away from the others w/ a cameraman chasing behind him. So, I can see him re-enacting it.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:38 am
John is hot. Russell is The Man. Last night's episode was better than sex. Please don't tell anyone I said that. lol
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:46 am
Karuuna, how would you know if they never found it off camera if they filmed a reenactment? You wouldn't. I don't believe they could film a reenactment since it would be hard to keep it secret from the other players and would thus be unfair to the person who found it.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:51 am
Karuuna, here is what I am picturing. The camera man gets there 10 seconds after Russel (for example) finds it. The camera man says "Hurry, walk up to it again and move the rock again". It could all take place in a matter of 30 seconds.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:53 am
Last night's episode was better than sex. ROFLMAO!!! Last night's episode was better with sex. HA!!! I'm like Pamy...I squealed with delight when Russell found that doggone idol again! Wheeeeeee
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:55 am
I could see a reenactment happening and I don't think that completely goes against the spirit of the show. They already have some "convenient" editing with respect to arial footage. However, I don't think the show is rigged. I believe that Russell found those idols on his own (no one in production told him where they were). Oh and by the way, as far as I'm concerned, Russell is making this season a great season. One of the most entertaining survivors ever.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:55 am
Last night's episode was better with sex. HA!!! LMFAO Clearly, I wasn't thinking straight last night!
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:59 am
Tantric. heehee
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:10 pm
Bee - ! 
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:22 pm
When he saw the rock, he knew exactly where it was in camp. I believe that Russell found the 3 idol, mainly because, he had already been through the area with a fine toothed comb, without any clues, looking for the 2nd idol. So, he was much more familar with the surroundings at camp than any of the others. I liked Mick's comments at the tribal, saying that Galu is playing like it's still a team game and someone there may figure out that it's an individual game now and move to the FF4 + Shambo. Laura, in her parting comments, still didn't get the individual versus team concept of Survivor. They had the numbers, now they don't. If Russell makes it to the final vote, I think Erik is probably a vote for him.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:23 pm
<<--- Also squealed with delight when Russell found the third HII. To be honest, I'm glad there is no Exile Island this season. It's much more interesting with them having to search for the idol in front of their tribe.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:53 pm
As for Russell finding the idols, the first two without clues, he just used some simple reasoning. He has obviously watched the show and knows that if there is no exile island, then the II if they exist have to be near the camps. They have been in some pretty obvious places in past shows. And he also knew that there would have to be one at each camp, so as soon as he got to the new camp, he started looking. Of course, he had no way of knowing that Erik had already found the original one and that the one he found was actually the replacement one (or maybe Erik's was taken from him and put back into play.) As Jeff said in one of his blogs, they want them to find the idols. What good are they to the show if they don't find them? So they are not all that hard to find. And although it looks like he is just out there a few minutes, in reality, he probably spent hours looking for the first two before he found them. And I seriously doubt he waited for the clue before he looked for the third one. It showed him looking even before the challenge. He probably spent hours looking and as someone said was familiar with the area and knew a lot of places the idol wasn't. And with the picture of the rock, it just took some serious looking. As for not going on the challenge, he commented that he needed to win because there would probably be a clue if there was another idol. In the past shows, the idol has been put back into play. Remember, the idol has seldom been played this early in the season and never two played this early. I doubt there was a problem with filming it. There are cameramen all over the area. There was probably one on every person who stepped foot out of the camp. I was laughing my head off at Dave trying to keep up with Russell. Russell is so obviously stronger than Dave that Dave played out. And then when Monica interrupted, he completely lost sight of Russell.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:11 pm
I think that winning too much too early is the kiss of doom - you never have to develop a survival-type spirit throughout the early part of the game and you get too comfortable with your teammates. Like him or hate him, Russell has never developed any loyalties to anyone throughout the game. That's why he has been successful to-date.
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Stray_cat
Member
06-21-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:34 pm
Biscottiii - thanks for posting those clips, they were great 
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:44 pm
Loved this episode! I am sure that I didn't really see what Bonza didn't post.
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Sportsfan
Member
09-03-2007
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 3:18 pm
Russell is actually starting to win me over.....I kinda almost like him. Mmmmnn maybe like is too strong a word. I kinda respect his tenacity (yeah ok that will do)
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 4:21 pm
Sportsfan, baby steps, baby steps. 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 4:29 pm
Well I have to say I'm at least seeing why Jeff is SO enamored with Russell.. he's definitely playing for it.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:09 pm
I"m finding him entertaining. I wouldn't like him if I was there with him, I don't think. And if he's that person in real life, I wouldn't like him either. But he is definitely making the game fun!
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