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Alaginger
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Friday, December 04, 2009 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Dani at Survivor Skills for the show title and to Survivor Fever for the transcript and pics:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst : Next time on Survivor...

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Mick <talking to Jaison> : Are you pretty confident that Russell's plan is to take us?

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Mick <talking to Brett and Monica in the shelter> : It's like a little kid sees a snake and the snake says, "Hey, come and play with me I'm not going to bite you." The kid starts playing with the snake and the snake bites him. He's like, "what happened?...you said you weren't going to bite me." He's like, "I'm a snake, that's what I do."

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Alaginger
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Friday, December 04, 2009 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Moderator: Please change the title to say either Episode 12 or 13. It definitely is not 11, as I put in there. I always get confused as to whether the recrap show is called an episode or not. Jeff is calling his Blog, the Blog for Episode 12 .... so in that case I think we should call this thread Episode 13. Can you fix that for me, please! Thanks, Ginger

Done! <24>

Alaginger
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Friday, December 04, 2009 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay .... here is Jeff's Blog .... right in the spoiler thread where a bunch of you guy's wanted it. I'm here to please, if nothing else (LOL).
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Once again history repeats itself. It always does. Especially on Survivor. Anybody remember back on Survivor: All-Stars when Boston Rob pleaded with Lex to save his soon-to-be wife, Amber, promising his loyalty in return? We all remember how that turned out… Lex was the next person voted out. Sound familiar?

John made a huge move last week when he aligned with Russell and Foa Foa and switched his vote forcing Laura out of the game. It was a big move that I fully appreciated. He risked alienating Laura and other Galu members to put himself in a better position in the game. Unfortunately for John, the big move was poorly executed.As always hindsight is 20-20, so ”with all due respect” to John (which my buddy Lopez says means you don’t actually respect the person at all), I offer this analysis of why John is no longer in the game.

John made three big mistakes that led to his ouster. The first mistake John made was in making a deal with the one guy you simply cannot trust – Russell. Russell is nothing if not consistent and he is consistently untrustworthy.

Russell is also a great player. Yes, I said GREAT. Russell used John like a mercenary. By convincing John to switch sides, he got what he needed which was another Galu member voted out. That was John’s second mistake. He should have insisted that in order to get his vote, they must first vote out a Foa Foa. He didn’t. That was a fatal mistake. Because once Laura was voted out, John was no longer of any use.

From Russell’s vantage point, it was an easy and extremely wise vote to get rid of John as soon as possible. In doing so, Russell and the rest of the Foa Foa tribe officially changed the game. Foa Foa (plus Shambo) is now in control of the numbers. Brilliant.

AUCTION
One of the best ideas we’ve had in recent years was in Guatemala when we introduced the ”advantage” to the auction. Danni bid on the advantage, it helped her win the challenge and she ended up winning the game. Jaison made a great move in buying the advantage. It’s money well spent and we (producers) always make sure that the advantage is significant enough that if you play it right, you have a very good chance of winning the challenge. It’s the biggest move Jaison has made in the game and it paid off big time.

To be fair, it’s easy to sit at home and say Jaison made the right move in buying the advantage, but when he saw Mick buy an entire meal moments later for the same amount of money, believe me he had 2nd, 3rd, 4th thoughts about how he had spent his money.

But by the time the challenge came around Mick’s meal had already made it’s way in, through, and out his body and it clearly didn’t help him in the challenge. Good move, Jaison.

Side note: Dave Ball, thank you for not bidding on the shower.

APPLE PIE – THE THIRD MISTAKE
The biggest moment of the auction was not the $200 peanut butter and jelly sandwich that Natalie bought, nor was it Jaison buying the advantage in the challenge. The biggest moment of the auction was John deciding to not share the apple pie with the rest of the tribe. His third and final mistake.

John: I’m confident that nobody is going to vote me off because I didn’t give them a piece of apple pie.”

NOTE TO ALL FUTURE SURVIVORS: Whenever you are given a selfish vs. selfless choice, you ALWAYS choose the selfless option. Always, always, always. Survivor is a social game. John could have used that pie to buy a lot of good will from a lot of people, and I absolutely believe had he done so he would still be in the game. Instead he lost even more favor because he was seen as selfish. The truth is it was a golden opportunity that he wasted. Then again, I say that as I am finishing up a pizza while I write this blog. It’s a tough position to be in for sure, but that’s why we do it – to force the Survivors to make tough decisions.

We’ll never know for certain how much of a part it played in him being voted out, but it definitely did not help him, and had he given up the pie he might have saved himself. You never want to give anybody a reason to vote you out. Never.

While we’re at it, if you ever find yourself playing Survivor and muttering something that begins with: ”I’m confident…and ends with ”won’t get voted off” start packing your bag, cause the blindside is already in motion.

CHICKEN SOUP
Admittedly, Shambo is a bit of a kook, but you have to find a soft spot in your heart for a woman who shares a clearly heartfelt goodbye to an about-to-be slaughtered chicken and promises to see them in heaven when they’re back together… only moments before she cooks them over an open fire.

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE
First off, Natalie was impressive. A major effort. I tested this challenge myself and those wooden planks were very heavy. Natalie dug deep and outlasted everybody except Dave and Jaison and Jaison had an advantage.

I was so happy to see the advantage pay off for Jaison. Not because I’m rooting for him but because I respect big moves. Spending all of his money for one advantage was a big move.

TRIBAL COUNCIL
The look of shock on John’s face was one of the best of the season. It was almost, not quite, but almost, hard for me to watch. He never ever saw it coming.

Also, I’m not sure why Laura is so concerned with whether Shambo knew what was going on or not, but it says to me that there is clearly still some bitterness between the two and if Shambo makes it to the final you can bet she will not have Laura’s vote.

So where do we stand now? Well, this much we know for sure: It is a new game. Foa Foa is now in charge and you can bet that Monica, Dave and Brett are very worried about their future.

The good news is that once again the numbers are uneven and that means that somebody on Foa Foa is now a potential swing vote. The remaining Galu members have to find the crack. They have to find out who is on the bottom of the Foa Foa totem pole and convince them that joining forces is in everybody’s best interest.

The only shot they have of pulling that off is if they start thinking like Russell and ask themselves, ”What Would Russell Do?”

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Thanks, Alaginger!! Thanks for all you do here!

Lookieloo
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I can honestly say, i do not know which i like more....Thursday night to watch "survivor" or Friday morning/afternoon to see what Ginger comes up with.

alaginger.....you ARE as cool as Kool-ade!!!

Alaginger
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Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks Moderator for fixing the Thread Title!!!

YW Bee!!!

Ladytex
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According to a Dalton Ross tweet, CBS just sent a press release saying that this episode is going to be a double elimination ...

Mamabatsy
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I wish that when they have a double elimination it is a shock to the survivors. After a torch is snuffed, Jeff says, don't go, you have to vote someone else out now. I'd love to see what they do if they don't have time to bully each other into a vote.

Alaginger
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Thanks to Survivor Phoenix:
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Press Release

THE CASTAWAYS ARE SHOCKED TO DISCOVER A TWIST THAT WILL ULTIMATELY SEND TWO OF THEM HOME, ON "SURVIVOR SAMOA"

Fearing that he is next on the chopping block, one castaway gives a shocking performance at Tribal Council.
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Well, our spoiler that has been right on so far said there were no double boots left in this season after the merge. So, either the spoiler's source was wrong .... or this will be a show with two separate Tribal Councils. As I said before, when the players go to two separate Tribal Councils, they have no idea if it will appear as two separate shows or on the same show.

Having said that, the clue sure sounds like a double boot episode, to me!

Alaginger
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Thanks to James Barber at Survivor Sucks:
"Wake Up Pamy .... Here It Is!!!"
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Tribal Council Voting

Find out what each of the final nine tribe members had to say as they cast their votes

Monica (John): I understand you didn't want to draw rocks last week. I understand your decision to vote for Laura. My vote for you is for Laura.

Mick (John): You're a strong competitor strategically, your tribe thinks you're a snake in the grass, so this vote hopefully has some backing with them too, because this could kind of screw us if it doesn't work out. We'll see what happens.

Natalie (John): John, I'm voting for you because you're a very strategic player, and you're a huge threat to Foa Foa. Good game.

Jaison (John): (looks at the card) I think I'm spelling that right.

Russell (John): You're a great strategic player. I could be the only strategic player left. That's why I have to let you go.

John (Mick): Yo, dude. I don't think you're going home tonight. This one probably won't count.

Shambo (Dave): Dave, thanks for the chickens. They were great friends.

Dave (John): John, I'm voting for you because it might get me closer to a million bucks, and that's the way the game goes, I guess. Sorry pal.

Brett (John with a smile in the "o"): John, you're an extremely smart, intelligent man, but your strategies I think dug you a deep one.

Alaginger
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Reading the Survivor Insider of the going-ons at Ponderosa, it appears that the next TC is only one day after John is at Ponderosa. That sounds like there is no time for a RC. And, it a TC is that soon, there may be plenty of time for a 2nd one, as we first supposed.

Thought you might enjoy this private confessional by Russell that came out of the Survivor Insider:
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Russell's Kingdom

Russell sits on his throne high above the beaches of Samoa and smugly reveals his ability to manipulate each and every member of his tribe

"This is my kingdom. I ruled over the first kingdom, now this is my second kingdom. This is where my throne sits. Right down there. If you look real close you can see it. I came in here 8-4, and now all a sudden it's 5-3. Me 5. It's amazing how I can switch things up. I was scrambling when I first got here, but now I can comfortably sit on my throne and watch everybody bicker at each other like a bunch of babies."

"I have everybody out here believing I'm a firefighter, lost my home in Katrina, feeling sorry for me, when the fact of the matter is I'm a multimillionaire, have my own oil company in Houston. That's how stupid these people really are. They think I'm some redneck from the South that can't do anything. Well, you know what, I'm the richest man here. That proves the fact that already I'm smarter than them. They're out here trying to make a million dollars. I'm out here trying to prove how easy it is to win the game, to win the show, to win the game. I'm already rich. I'm able to do everything I want, anything I want, and manipulate them how I want to, without having to think, oh, I'm gonna lose a million dollars if I do that. I have nothing to lose. I have everything to prove. Maybe I'll change my job to psychiatrist because I'm playing everybody here like fiddles anyway. I figure that's what a psychiatrist does. I can do that."
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Ginger Note: Hey! Didn't we just see in the Recrap show that Russell told Mick all about his making $1.7 million last year and about his oil company?

Pamy
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Thanks Ginger!!!! I was really excited to see the votes from this ep!!!

and yes to the Ginger note!!!

Alaginger
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Friday, December 04, 2009 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Only 3 more viewing shows left --- December 10, 17 and 20.

Alaginger
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Thanks to Survivor Fever for more transcript and pics:
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Transcript:

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Announcer: Two Tribal Councils...

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Russell <camera confessional> : I have a lot of options in the game right now.

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Announcer: Two people going home...

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Mick <camera confessional> : Part of me wants to make a big move getting rid of Russell.

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Announcer: With two chances at Immunity...

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Dave: Anything to keep you here another day, it sounds pretty good.

Announcer: With only 3 episodes to go...

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Jaison: Russell is Russell, so we better watch out.

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Natalie: Oh my word.

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Announcer: Master manipulator Russell pulls the boldest move ever at a Tribal Council.
Ginger Note: Russell pulling HII out of bag!

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Russell <camera confessional> : I'll do whatever it takes.

Announcer: Will it be his last?

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Jeff Probst <at Tribal Council> : I'll go tally the votes.

Pamy
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Biggest move ever at TC????!!! does he give his II to someone else? Rob gave his to Amber in ASS so thats nothing new.

darn those promo ppl, now I cant wait for Thurs even more than before!!!!

Alaginger
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Missyae's latest post over at Survivor Sucks!

"Well you would think Dave would be wiser than he is next week. Why, why, why, would you go after Russell right now. You know he probably has the idol, you know his Foas have been very tight, why take on Russell? The smarter move to last longer would have been to join Russell. Goodbye Dave, say hello to the other Galus at the Ponderosa!"
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Ginger Note:
So, I take that to mean that her source told her that Dave is the next to get the boot. We already know there will be two Immunity Challenges and Two Tribal Councils, so I would put my money on the first Tribal Council being the boot of Dave.

Based on previous spoiling for the whole season, and the line-up for the Final 6, that only leaves Monica to be the 2nd boot for the next episode, after the 2nd IC and at the 2nd TC.

Alaginger
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Challenge Speculations:

We know there are two ICs this episode. In the previews the "beanbag" into the basket is shown first, and the bowling one is shown second. It has been determined that the pics given to us is using players for the "beanbag" challenge, but dream-teamers for the bowling, presumably so we can't see who got the boot after the "beanbag" challenge and subsequent TC. So, that all narrows it down to - "beanbag" is first, bowling is second.

In the "beanbag" there are color-coded overhead baskets, beanbag on a lever, sea-saw effect on the lever .... slam the lever, beanbag catapults up into the air, and hopefully lands in your basket. Don't know how many the winner has to get into the basket to win.

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Survivor Fever says this is Mick. TDT says it is Dave(?) --- obviously, not sure. I have taken the picture, cropped it, lightened it up quite a bit, and it sure looks like Mick to me. If I had not had to crop it to size it for TVCH, you could have seen Monica in dog-ears (hair) to Mick's right (our left). Just take my word for it, she is next to him.

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These 2 pics show the yellow lever going up, and then the yellow beanbag headed for the basket. It may be that CBS was showing us the winner of the RC and blurring the image out, and if so, the winner appears to be Mick. But, that's not conclusive. That just might be Mick playing, and somebody else beats him........least likely being Dave, if it is time for his boot.

I didn't bring any more pics of the bowling, cause bowling is pretty much self-explanatory and we already have pics up above somewhere.

Alaginger
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Little bit of good meat to chew on in this interview with John done by Zap2it.com.
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John Fincher was the 12th person to leave "Survivor: Samoa." He told us he wishes he could've been in Russell's tribe from the start because that would've been, "Katie, bar the door!"

What were you up to before Survivor?
Without mentioning too much about my company, I work for a big aerospace and defense company. I do satellite engineering work. We're a major payload provider for high frequency communication satellites and high-accuracy earth-sensing instruments.

Are you still doing that?
Yes, I am. Still with the same company. Lots of people are trying to get a hold of me now, though, as you might imagine.

So let's talk about last night's episode. It would appear that the vote was a complete surprise to you.
Yeah, I mean there's certainly a level of surprise, but going into it, you start to do numbers in your head and you're like,"Why do I all of a sudden not know exactly what's going to happen?" The answer is either option A) I'm going home or option B) there's about to be a hit executed on someone that I could've protected or would've tried to defend against. When they're going to vote off someone you like, they're not going to tell you so there was a certain level of surprise.

Did you at all suspect Russell was actually trying to get you out, specifically, or did you just know that something might be up?
With Russell, you're doing business with the devil and unfortunately for me, my position was that I was best suited to have a dialogue with Russell. When you saw me and Russell having that conversation on the rocks and I'm like, "Hey buddy, it's me and you all the way" and he tells me, "Yeah, whatever you want to do" and we're both sitting there lying to each other's faces. It's a total dialogue of untruths. We were both going, "Man, I wish I would've been on this guy's team but unfortunately I have to axe him." It's a very civil conversation but you both know you're trying to kill each other.

What do you think of Russell? He's obviously one of the bigger personalities this season.
I think he's the biggest personality maybe ever. I'm mad he got cast on the same season as me. [laughs] I think he's the greatest Survivor to ever play the game and if he wasn't cast on my season, I could've done a lot more. Kudos to him for maintaining control and doing what he was doing. I wish I would've thought to burn socks on my team, I love that move. If Russell and I were put on the same team initially, it would've been "Katie, bar the door!" It would've been even crazier. Russell is the greatest there ever was in this game.

Are there any things you've been surprised by, watching the episodes on TV?
Yeah, I mean, my strategy going in was that I am smart enough and analytic enough to process information and make correct decisions and I could do that better than most, if not all, of the people out there, so as far as things happening, I wasn't surprised by as much as I think a lot of other people were or are.

Who do you think is playing the best game at this point in the show?
Russell.

Is there anybody besides Russell or is he just the complete puppetmaster?
There are some people who have potential to do some things, but are they going to do it? Dave Ball is a smart, smart person but does he have what it takes to execute a strategy? I think Brett is very likeable for a lot of people, but I think he's a bit young and a bit too naive to be a power player. Mick is obviously very smart and someone who can do a lot of good things. Monica is very weak. I think she made a bad decision to go with Brett and Dave over me. Jaison is a strong player, Dave has the potential to be a strong player, but he's drowning. He's just trying to stay afloat. But they are all overshadowed by Russell.

What about Shambo? I notice she didn't come up in your last answer.
Shambo is very impactful this season. She's a very unique character. She wears a bandanna around her head in real life. Shambo's a nice person but it's hard to work with her over the long run. It's really a behavioral pattern with her to let her emotions impact her decision making, which I disagree with. I try to be as ice cold as possible out there.

She's a nice person who was unfortunately a bit ostracized. When Russell Swan sent her over to Foa Foa twice, that was a bad move. When Laura was sort-of maliciously attacking her and trying to make her an outcast, I think that was an incorrect move. Shambo might not be able to articulate exactly how Laura was doing that to her because it was very subtle, but it was certainly happening. There was a lot of malice involved. Shambo's a good person and she got ostracized and Russell and Foa Foa recognized that and took advantage.

Do you have any final thoughts you'd like to share?
Just that it was a fun, great experience.

Alaginger
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Interesting tidbit here from a vocal interview with John, not any spoiler value, but interesting .... regarding Shambo's cooking of the chicken.

John says Shambo was a better cook than Dave and Laura combined. He also said she cooked a h*ll of a good chicken broth and stew. And she got lots of accolades about it, even from Dave.

Pamy
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I like JOhn even more! What a great interview.

Lexie_girl
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Very good interview.

Alaginger
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It's early yet, but the booting order at a couple of places might be of interest to you.

Survivor Fever is showing Dave as "very vulnerable" and Monica as "vulnerable", so that tells me that at this point they think Dave goes before Monica.

At TDT, they show Monica in 8th place, and Dave in 7th place, so that tells me they think Monica will go before Dave.

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Russell having a one-on-one with Monica
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Russell having a one-on-one with Dave

The following cut and pasted from an interview with John and Reality News Online:

RNO: So then why did you ask him for the promise that you guys would take out a Foa Foan?

John: That was a mistake. You get involved in a conversation with him and it’s funny because he has all these tricks to catch you off guard and he was good at it. What you haven’t seen is that Natalie was his little agent and she was good at setting up meetings with him. She’d say, “Hey, John, do you want to go get some water?” and you’d turn the corner for going to the well and he’s waiting for you. He catches you off guard because he’s prepared himself and he knows what he’s going to talk about but you don’t. You just have to be flexible.

Pamy
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ooohhhh very interesting!!! Natalie is really showing to be a great player herself, hope they show more of that stuff

Alaginger
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Cut and pasted from John's interview with RTVW (Reality TV World):
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Reality TV World: What was your goal with confronting Russell about how you knew he had found the Hidden Immunity Idol -- how were you expecting that to play out?

John: Interesting word-- you're the second or third person to use the word "confronting" or some variation of "confrontation." There was certainly no feeling of confrontation in that dialogue whatsoever. Russell and I had been talking since Day 19 at the merge and we had conversations about things -- and there's a hundred conversations with him I had that you haven't seen. So he and I talked about stuff.

He comes at me with, "Hey, do you have the idol?" I go, "No dude. You have the idol." You can see him gauging -- like is this a bluff? What does he really know? He's trying to gather information. "Well where was the idol? What did the clues say?" I said, "I know you have it. Everyone knows you already have it. I already told them."

The last thing I wanted is people thinking I have the idol because then they'd have to blindside me. So I put my hands up and say "Hey!" -- after I looked for it and couldn't find it I knew Russell had it -- I said, "Hey, I don't have this thing. Here's the clue. You want to look at the clue, here it is. Here's where it says it was, it's not there anymore."

Reality TV World: So just to be clear, did you tell Dave, Monica and Brett that you knew Russell had the idol?

John: Yeah.

Chief
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Anyone else wondering whether it's questionable about Dave and/or Monica leaving? I hope they both do leave, but can't forget that they'll have two separate opportunities to win the IC.

From the pics above, it appears Mick is the one who is questioning whether to keep Russell. Maybe Russell gets wind of this, sees a crack in his "loyal subjects" and decides he can afford to get rid of Mick! I mean, at this point, Brett, Dave, and Monica would be happy to oblige to save themselves. (I thought about this possibility after reading what Dave said during his one-on-one with Russell. Dave: Anything to keep you here another day, it sounds pretty good.)


And the huge promo with Russell pulling the boldest move ever at a tribal council could be anything. I haven't watched every season, but whatever he does is going to be a first. I'm wondering if he pulls out the II and taunts them with it or something. Any other ideas on what would be the "boldest move ever?"

Askme_who_ur
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I think that is what I have seen. He may put on the HII during Tribal, just as a threat or out of arrogance to let them know he has it and they know he is willing to play it.

Pamy
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oh LOL!!! I would love that!!! Man, I love that guy!!! if he does that I am going to build me a little Russell shrine!

Lookieloo
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Pamy, if he does that, i will buy the wood to make the alter! LOLOLOLOL

Alaginger
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The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up over at Survivor Blows, done this week by FlowerPower.
She summarizes, with analytical verbage and pics and ends up with her predictions of:
RC - None
First Boot - Dave
Second Boot - Monica (possibly, but doubtful, Shambo)

The voting in a separate thread over there has started, but there are only 4 votes, too soon to bring over .... and it is confusing because they are being asked to vote for two TC's, and that's not the normal procedure...so a little confusing right now.

Neither TDT nor Survivor Fever have changed their prevous predictions.
SF - Dave - most vulnerable, Monica vulnerable
TDT - Monica - mid jury, Dave mid to late jury.

Pamy
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LOL Lookieloo!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Latest at TDT this morning...........

They have joined the bandwagon with......

Dave gets the first boot, and speculating that Monica will get the second, with Shambo being safe again.

They are also speculating that Mick will win the first challenge, and no guess on the second one.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Forgot to mention that the voting over at Survivor Blows is pretty heavy now, and it is almost 95% Dave first, and Monica second. A couple of people have thrown in Shambo's name, but it's almost unanimous with Dave/Monica.

Kookliebird
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Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Maybe Shambo wins the 2nd challenge.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
We have the latest spoiler from Missyae. It carries us all the way to the Final 3, but to read all of that you need to go to the Spoiler General Thread. I'm just putting here the part that refers to tonight's show.
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I told you Dave was first to go tonight. I will tell you that Monica is the next to go after Dave. Then after Monica - *** leaves. Final 5 are ***. *** is the first to leave on finale night leaving *** - *** - *** and ***. *** leaves in 4th place leaving the final 3 as I said long ago of *** - *** - ***. Merry Christmas!