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12th Show, Dec. 3rd

Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XIX - Samoa ~ 2: Survivor XIX - Samoa: 12th Show, Dec. 3rd users admin

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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I feel so dumb. I thought it was John!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
dont feel dumb. Only reason I knew was because I have been reading Dalton's work for 12 years and know his style. He doesnt normally pretend like someone else is writing for him...wait!! what if I'm wrong! LOL I better go dbl ck!

for something really funny, go re read it, knowing its not really John :-)

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my favorite exit interview site:

Exclusive: Ousted castaway John Fincher talks about 'Survivor: Samoa'

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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Spear, thanks for finding that Part 3 Ponderosa John Youtube for us! It wasn't posted last night when I found the first two, but well worth watching. I felt like John was spinning stories but this just confirmed.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Whenever you have a guy like John who is really smart talking all the time about how really smart he is, and how he could have won if other people had been as smart as he is, he ain't smart. He might have superior reasoning intellect, but that's not what get you across the finish line in either Survivor OR real life, (if there were such a thing, which there is not).


Ark
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07-10-2001

Friday, December 04, 2009 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
After watching the Ponderosa videos, I don't think John is going to sway anyone there.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 1:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
I always find it nice to see the body language & hear their comments when making their votes. Stumbled onto this one where they're voting John off:

Survivor: Samoa - Tribal Council Voting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5lsHJuUkOc

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 2:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Samoa - Killing the Chickens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnEpSVsebD8

Shambo explains the need to kill the chickens after reaching a point of starvation

Tvclubber
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06-22-2008

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvclubber a private message Print Post    
Great episode!

When John decided not to share the pie, especially with people who didn't have a bite to eat at the auction, he shouldn't have stated that no one would hold his choice against him. How in the world could he possibly know that? Even if no one held his choice against him, everyone found out how self-centered he may be--including millions of viewers.

Natalie was awesome in the immunity challenge. So much strength for such a tiny body.

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
Well I was surprised that Monica didnt share the chicken-I was waiting for her to hand over a chicken leg to Shambo.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
I think Jeff said that they couldn't share money and could NOT share their food once purchased.

John's pie was a different situation. He was given a choice. 1) Keep his piece OR 2) Eat nothing while letting 4 people eat the other pieces.

Where he REALLY blew it IMO was to taunt them. pph 'so what do you think? would you like a piece of pie?' Then, followed by Nope, I'm going to eat my piece myself. I feel confident nobody would vote me off!

For a guy who keeps claiming he's so "smart" he sure acted stupid.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Interesting video (the voting). Shows that the Producers remove each vote after it's put into the can. It's always empty when they put their votes into it. We already knew Jeff pulls them out in a certain order (because the Producers already know the outcome when they are filming the reading of the votes).



Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Jeff did say there was no sharing -- except when it came to John's pie.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
I didn't notice that Kona, but it makes sense. You don't want any of the following contestants to possibly see what someone else's vote was. That could change the entire voting strategy right there.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I just watched the video and as Brett put his vote in it kind of stuck, like the bucket was full. I didn't see any evidence that the producers remove the votes. They don't really need to. You don't get to open the voting bucket until your vote is already written. And you're on camera so they'd see if you were peeking in the bucket. I just think the bucket is big enough that the votes sink down into it. But I always have wondered if they empty the bucket each time. Perhaps they do.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Man, everyone is ragging on John for eating the pie. I thought it was unfair of Survivor to give him that choice while not giving anyone else the same choice. If he had "shared" he would have eaten nothing. So those that either had already eaten or had funds to still purchase would have gotten his pie and he would get nothing. That seems wrong. I didn't see it as selfish for him to feed himself.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
JP explains why in his blog.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Yah I read Jeff's blog, but don't agree... Buying good will from the others who are eating juicy burgers while you go hungry. That just doesn't seem smart. And I don't think that any one of the other survivors would have given up the nourishment. They know that and so I doubt they would deny anyone else the food.

In the past sharing auction's they have been given the option to share with others, but they still got to partake in the meal or reward... (remember Taj got to send everyone to feast in trade of spending alone time with her husband)

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
They've done the "share" challenge before - remember the CARS???? The one who took the car instead of not getting a car and everyone else getting one did not win that season either (though for the life of me I cannot recall which season it was!).

I think Jeff's spot on - if you can share something small (like pie) you might get back some of the good will you lost when you switched votes on your team. If nothing else, they might be willing to listen to your reasons for your switch which would then allow you to explain how you were "saving them" from having to pick a rock while the two folks people actually wanted OUT sat smugly by, completely safe!

John blew it.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Bonbon, I didnt blame John for doing not sharing it was more of a slap my head and yell NOOOOOO!!! they will remember that you didnt share, esp when he said 'I dont think anyone's going to vote me off for this' that gives them a justification for doing so, if they make it to final 2 and John's question is why did you vote me out.

otoh, if he did share he would have showed his hand if he shared with Russ

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
He could easily have said he was sharing with those who didn't get to eat (Russell, Jaison, Dave, Brett? - if one of these got food that I'm not remembering, than Shambo for having such gross food to eat). That way he's giving something to Russ without showing his hand - then he's just being a nice guy.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
There was no sharing involved that included John in that deal. He gave up a chance to eat and gave the pie to four others to share. At least I think that was how it was explained.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
This pie trick was much cheaper than making them pass on a vehicle....as in past seasons.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, December 05, 2009 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Shambo, from the chicken clip linked above: "I love the little chicken because he reminds me of my golden retriever."

Aaaiiiiiieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Monday, December 07, 2009 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
I saw a Survivor commercial that said double elimination this Thursday. I am so excited. Will my Russell read the signs wrong. I hope not. For me this is the best season ever.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Monday, December 07, 2009 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Sally, I saw that, too! I have a feeling things are about to get turned upside down! Great season!