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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XIX - Samoa ~ 2: Survivor XIX - Samoa: The Castaways: Russell H.: Archive through October 20, 2009 users admin

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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
OH, I think they certainly 'cast' people who fit certain types they are looking for. But I also think sometimes they just come across 'characters', like Russell, and fit a place for him. Just like Coach, there are some people who are just odd ducks, and they know they will make great tv.

There are other people like Betsy, who just are who they are, trying out for 6 years to make the show just 'cause they think it would be great to do. I don't think she's 'scripted' at all.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
In life, in the world, there are many different personality types. Some mesh, some don't. The producers and casting people surely know that diverse personalities make for better TV. I think they go for a variety of general personality types and then let the chips fall where they may. I like Betsy, but I do feel Betsy was more interesting because she was the good cop pitted against the Evil that is Russell H. Honestly... Natalie, Ashley, and the other young girls aren't all that interesting. They need bold personalities like Russell and Ben to shake things up. They definitely got their money's worth this season!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
If it was truly scripted, Betsy would have stayed to provide a foil for Russell. Good cop, versus evil schemer thing....

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
YAH Lexie! you have come to the dark side

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
yes Russ can use the idol as a bargaining chip when they merge, he can give it to someone on opposing tribe and it would be good.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Glad you agree with me, Juju, re the actors on the show this season as well as JP's blog designed to reel us in. I say there are actually 3 actors on the show this time. And of course, Jeffie's blog is done to ensure nobody misses the obvious, i.e. how much 'fun' it all is <eyeroll>.

And they don't want a foil for Russell at this point, Karuuna. They want us to get all riled up and indignant for a few more weeks before anyone steps up to 'take on' Russell or Ben. It is SO scripted, IMO.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Holly, I disagree. Jeff liked Betsy, and it's obvious she was audience appealing as well. If it was so rigged, she'd still be there.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I think BB is waaaaay more scripted/rigged than Survivor, at least ever since AG took over.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I believe Jeff did like her, Kar. She was appealing and seemed to be a smart and strong woman who was in no way obnoxious or annoying to either him or the audience. But, being such a smart,confident person, she probably could have swayed the rest of them to oust Mr. Russell sooner than later, and there would have gone Mr. Burnett's well laid out plan to feed us "good TV" via the villain, aka Russell, the pot-bellied millionaire and his side-kick Ben. (LOL at myself here...that's my story and I'm sticking to it, and I won't watch again until at the least Ben is gone. He's just too nasty to stomach.)

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Ben is terrible! I find nothing entertaining about him.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I need to clarify that I don't want E-Russell to go anytime soon because he is certainly making my Survivor experience entertaining. At this point, I don't want him to win (but that could change depending on who is in the F3 or F4).


On the other hand, Ben can go tomorrow as far as I'm concerned.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, September 25, 2009 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Oopsie, I meant to say Survivor is the most scripted AFTER Big Brother, which is the most scripted.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Interestingly enough, in her exit interview Betsy said Russell's meanness was "not editing", it was just who he was.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't see how anyone could be edited that mean. Dumping water and burning socks are willfully nasty actions. It's not as if he was provoked, had a bad moment and said something out of character that he regretted later.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
For me the difference between Russ and Ben is that Russ is playing a game and is acting accordingly. Ben's words come from within, deep within and show his true character, which imo is racist.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
I was wondering about Russell's business, and having a hard time finding it. So I did some investigating because I hate not knowing what I want to know!

As it turns out, Russell's oil business is actually owned by his father. It's run by his father, Russell's brother Shawn, and Russell.

The business is called Hantz Tankering Service.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
Blog with interview with Shawn Hantz

http://blogs.chron.com/peep/2009/09/we_love_survivors_evil_russell.html

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Great find, Gemma!

I do not believe E. Russ is an actor hired by MB to play a role. I think he is just very bend on trying to be a memorable player. The meanness he showed can not just be from a script.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
Thanks Chy!

I think he's just trying to "show" everyone who ever treated him badly in his past that he's a force to be reckoned with.

He's only 5'5" tall, and he grew up in Texas, the land of football and masculine competition taken to a whole other level.

I bet he got picked on a lot growing up. It's too important that he be in control and running everything. That tells me he's spent a lot of time out of control of his own life, and being pushed around.

I wouldn't want to be close to him. Too much drama.

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, September 27, 2009 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
I am unconvinced that Russell is the millionare/multi-millionare that he is claiming to be. I am considering this statement to be another fabrication of his, similar to his Katrina story and more of his game strategy.

His speech patterns do not coincide with someone growing up in Texas and especially the part of Texas where Russell lives. Russell lives in the western edge of the Big Thicket which is the beginning of a unique world and by this I am meaning much more than the plant life that can be found there.

I agree that Russell likely felt pushed around or picked on when he was growing up but I don't feel it was by his male peers. Of course he could prove me wrong later and have a dumb ass guy's alliance.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Write-up at starmagazine.com to entice people to buy Star Magazine off the stands.

http://www.starmagazine.com/russell_hantz_drug_bust_/news/16155

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I agree that Russell's accent doesn't coincide with living in Houston but it does sound a lot like people who live in the area on the border between Lousiana and Texas (Orange, Vidor, Lake Charles, etc.). Perhaps he or his parents are originally from that area?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
His accent definitely sounds like he's got some Louisianian in him.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Well, I should have read the article before I posted because Russell H. is from Louisiana.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I like Glenn's summary of Russell. I don't think he's a millionaire/multi-mil either. Particularly knowing that he goes right into a second season of Survivor there is NO WAY he could leave his business(es) for that long.