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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is the thread where spoilers regarding the first episode will be placed. There is a lot of stuff out there already, and now that I have threads, I will start bringing stuff over. Anybody else have something to add, please be my guest. This isn't just my thread...it's for all of us.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
YAY GINGER!!!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
yah!! who is the villian??? My first guess is Russell

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Breakdown of tribes starting with Episode 1

Foa Foa Tribe - Yellow Buffs:

Betsy Bolan
Mike Borassi
Ben Browning
Marisa Calihan
Russell Hantz
Elizabeth Kim
Jaison Robison
Ashley Trainer
Mick Trimming
Natalie White

GALU Tribe- Purple Buffs

Dave Ball
Erik Cardona
Brett Clouser
John Fincher
Yasmin Giles
Laura Morett
Monica Padilla
Kelly Sharbaugh
Russell Swan
Shannon Waters

Lexie_girl
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Monday, September 07, 2009 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
My first guess for villain is John.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
From the start of the game, Survivor embraces this Samoan culture by incorporating an ancient tradition of electing an individual leader of the village. Without speaking, both tribes must immediately choose one member of their group to become their sole decision maker, their chief. How important will the role of tribal chief be in determining the fate of each tribe?

Survivor Phoenix has spoiled that the chiefs are:
Mick Trimming and Russell Swan



Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Per TDT, the Reward Challenge is:

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Stage 1: Retrieve keys(?) from the water
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Stage 2: Hauling bundles of logs
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Stage 3: The old over-under, over-under

Stage 4: Unseen... puzzles?
Takes place on a platform behind the starting line and balance beam. Assuming puzzle...

Foa Foa wins as pics of smoke at camp seen.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
TDT speculates that Exile Island may be called Treasure Island this season ?????

Also, Jeff is caught in a preview ad telling the players to listen up, that there is a small loophole to get out of going to TC, but the ad cuts off before that is explained.

Immunity Challenge:
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Gathering of ropes, then using the ropes to get over barriers. Galu appears to be ahead.
TDT speculates that Galu wins because the camera guy is taking pictures of people at the Foa Foa tribe, and he usually goes to the Loser's Tribe to get a handle on TC boot....plus Galu is ahead in the picture of the challenge.

Who gets the boot.....no guess yet!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
great stuff Ginger!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Monday, September 07, 2009 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Wow Ginger, I knew you'd get us started!!! Glad to see you back again with your contributions and insights. I may not post but I read......lots!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever:

Transcript:

Announcer: This Fall on Survivor, evil has a new name...

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Russell H.: My tribe will believe anything I tell them.

Announcer: ...Russell.

Russell H.: I can control how they think.

Announcer: Who on the island can stop him?
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Marisa: I'm starting to feel like he's pretty slimmy.

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Betsy: I usually can get a pretty good read on somebody.

Announcer: No one is safe on the new Survivor.

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Russell: <evil cackle>

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I wouldnt be surprised if Marisa goes first, if he senses she is on to him.

I'm actually surprised they are advertising him as the villian since it kind of means he lasts awhile

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, September 10, 2009 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Sounds feasible, Pamy, since TDT is speculating that the Foa Foa tribe will lose the challenge. Somebody, don't remember who, over at Survivor Blows was also speculating that Marisa gets the boot....

Maybe we will get more pics and info over the week-end.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I saw one of those previews with Jeff, etc., and he said they weren't going to do exile island and that the HII's would be hidden at the opposite tribes camps, so I wonder what they would need "Treasure Island" for. Have you seen any thing Alaginger? Thanks for all the digging you do, I really appreciate all the stuff you find. I can't find my way around half the other sites so am very impressed with your skills.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks Dipo. I went to check it out, and TDT has updated their section regarding Exile Island now, probably based on the same preview you saw. Here is their speculation, which is as good as anything at this point (it's still very early).
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Thanks to the TV Guide Channel preview, we can lay one tired Survivor add-on "twist" to rest: Exile Island. Probst says "There is no Exile Island this season, simply because, you know, we felt like, 'We've done that... enough.'"

But there are still hidden individual immunity idols, although how they can actually be found is unclear. Probst: "We have two hidden immunity idols, but they have their own set of clues, and you can only find the one that's for your tribe, they can only find the one that's for their tribe. The problem is, they're hidden at the other tribe's camp. So you have to get selected to go over there, and then you have to find it, underneath their eyes." So how does one get selected, exactly? Probst doesn't say. We don't see any evidence of that happening in the camp shots from Ep1, so maybe it's saved for Ep2 and beyond.

Then, there's also Probst's faux-Lost "Tribal Council Orientation" video, which contains this segment: "Now. Shut up and listen carefully to what I'm about to say. There is one, very small, secret loophole that exists, that can help you bypass tribal council. All you do....[cut to "CBS sensor" frame]"

Is this part of the "selection" scenario? If the other tribe picks you to come over, you don't have to go to your own tribe's tribal council? If so, the logical place to put this twist would be after the IC. So maybe it will come into play in Ep1, after all. More as more details emerge.

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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
If you want to see the "Tribal Council Orientation" video mentioned above, here's the link.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=MI0U_R3x7Nxlx_PKvf2JBh2YY7mw4p_I

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Preview transcript, showing Russell's true colors:

Transcript:

Announcer: The first night on Survivor, castaway Russell shares an amazing story

Russell: I lived in New Orleans...the water was rushing in like...

Female tribemates: Awwwww. Oh God.

Announcer: But his story is untrue.

Russell <in confessional>: I never lived in New Orleans. You can break their hearts by telling them a lie.

Announcer: No one is safe on the next Survivor.

Alaginger
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

Announcer: Next Thursday, meet the most evil castaway...

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Russell: I've got an alliance with the dumb short haired blonde and the even dumber long haired blonde.

Announcer: ...in Survivor history.

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Russell: You can call me the puppetmaster. If I tell them to run, they gonna run. If I tell them to stop, they'll stop.

Announcer: No one is safe from Russell.

Alaginger
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever:

Episode 1 Reward Challenge:
Segment#1
-- Two opposing players swim to retrieve colored flag with metal ring.
-- Jaison (Foa Foa) seemingly beats John (Galu).
Segment#2
-- Two opposing players lift and relocate two heavy bundles of logs... these bundles act as stairway to next segment. Russell (Foa Foa) seems to outplay Erik (Galu)
Segment#3
-- Move the metal ring along a rope wrapped around an elevated structure of balance beams. Performed by Marisa for Foa Yasmin for Galu
Segment#4
-- puzzle performed by Elizabeth for Foa and Shannon for Galu

Episode 1 Immunity Challenge - "Yank Your Hank"
From challenge producer John Kirhoffer (source: TV Guide Channel Survivor: Samoa Preview) "This challenge is called "Yank your Hank". A hank is a measurement of rope. Six players from the tribe will carry three coils of rope over three increasingly tall, increasingly steep A frame walls. Then they race to a platform pulling a crate up onto the platform and once they're up there they sit down and the puzzle solvers, four puzzle solvers will go over, untie the crate and then use the planks of the crate itself as the puzzle. "

Tntitanfan
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Friday, September 11, 2009 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I just love how creative the "challenge makers" of Survivor are! And I am soooo excited to have a new season starting soon!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Discussions going on over at Survivor Blows, one of my favorite analytical places to visit, seem to be leaning with a Marisa first-boot.

Previews are spending a lot of time showing the new great villain of Survivor, Russell H., and in the pictures I've already brought over it shows him making alliances with Ben and Ashley (short blond hair) and Natalie (long blond hair) and here's another picture of him making an alliance with Jaison.
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Also, spoilers/rumors of Russell H. sabotaging his own tribe by spoiling the rice, and hiding the flint in somebody else's bag to keep the suspicion off himself, sounds like he will be around for awhile.

Betsy is quoted in the previews as having a pretty good way of reading people, but the picture of her with Russell H. shows them to be on laughing and good terms. Marisa states that she is beginning to think Russell H. is slimy, and the picture of them together is not friendly.

So.......based on all the above, the posters at Survivor Blows are in agreement, so far, that Marisa is probably going home in Episode 1. We will see how this turns out.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay .... now let's put the shoe on another foot!

TDT speculate about the 1st Episode Boot:
TDT doesn't think it makes much since to boot Marisa so early since it doesn't give much airtime to the antagonizing between Marisa and Russell H. TDT points out that Betsy is also shown questioning the behavior of Russell H., so she is another potentital boot for Russell H. to pick on. And, TDT seems to think that Mike would be a good target as the oldest player on Foa Foa, and he doesn't do anything physical in either the Reward or Immunity Challenges.

So, out of 20 players we have Marisa, Betsy and Mike as targets per analysts we like to visit....based on previews, voiceovers, and pics of future episodes where some of the other players are visible.

Pamy
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Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Just from the previews I had guessed Marissa was first, either her or someone we havent seen in any previews. Even before spoilers came out I figured the villian would go far in the game.

I am just so excited for it to start! Wish it was on for 2 nights a week! Its a top 20 show so I dont know why CBS doesnt try that for at least 1 season.

Tntitanfan
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Sunday, September 13, 2009 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Although I am usually a supporter of the older folks, of the three mentioned above, I am willing to put Mike on the sacrificial altar! I do admire that he has prepared himself for the physical rigors, but the food issues will not be pretty!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Well, darn ... just checking this evening after watching Susan Boyle on America's Got Talent, and noticed I put this in the general thread this morning, and it should have gone into the Episode 1 thread. Oh Well...it's here now!
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Wednesday Morning and checking out which way people are thinking at Survivor Blows and TDT:

The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up over at Survivor Blows, done by poster Kircon. Results:
RC - Foa Foa
Exile - None (Hidden II's buried at the two camps but only players from the other camp are allowed to find them and have to be invited over)
IC - Galu
Boot - Marisa (with Betsy as a 2nd potential)

The voting thread is also open at Survivor Blows, with 5 people voting already, and it's split between Marisa and Betsy

TDT as of this morning:
RC - Foa Foa
Exile - None
IC - Galu
Boot - Mike? Liz? Betsy?
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Checking Survivor Blows votes this evening they have:
Marisa - 4
Betsy - 4
Mike - 3
Liz - 1

Kinda a mixed bag, wouldn't you say?