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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 7:07 pm
Jaison did the manipulating tonight. Russell wanted Ashley gone and Jaison wanted Ben out. Even Russell voted for Ben. Russell had a good point about a girl alliance voting out the men, the only good point I have ever heard him make.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 7:21 pm
I'm glad Ben is gone. I can't believe he couldn't see how what he said could be considered racist. Natalie got on my nerves a little when she just sat there as Ben said, "See, she's a lady. She says "Please" and "Thank you" and "yes sir"." Apparently Ben only likes women that act meek and weak around him and give him the respect he THINKS he deserves. I found Ben's atitude repulsive, and I'm glad Jaison called him on it.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 8:07 pm
The sad thing is that Jaison can be right as the rain and he still ended up putting a target on himself, IMO. He's the one person I want to win, too.
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Jezzedout
Member
09-07-2006
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 8:26 pm
Really great TC. Jaison is amazing; and he's right that Ben is ignorant. I'm not usually in favor of getting rid of the strong guys this early in the game, but Ben was a bad seed and I suspect we'll see that they did the right thing by cutting him loose. On another note, Russ is playing smarter than I realized. He was right to vote with the majority and I got the feeling he wasn't happy about it but knew strategically he had to cut off a finger to save his hand.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 8:30 pm
Kuddos to Jaison for unloading the bully that needs to verbally beat up on women & not even letting him make it to the jury. I'm rooting for him too. He made some valid points re: how Ben hadn't produced during challenges. In some ways, though, I'm hoping that Jaison's 'line in the sand' makes them wake up and realize he seems more honest (even Mick came over to his side although ER had given him the hii to hold). Sooner or later, they've GOT to wake up to the fact ER is herding them to their own demise, Ashley got a taste of that tonight herself.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 8:33 pm
Mad Mad love for Jaison. And if he gets voted out anytime soon I'll just combust. And also loving me some Shambo. And the editors must have been asleep, we actually saw more than 30 seconds of the purple team. How did THAT happen??
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Lyn
Member
08-07-2002
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 9:13 pm
Looks like someone gets clotheslined next week. Ouch!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:27 pm
Stoked to see Ben leave. And I don't care for Ashley but there was no way it made sense to send her off instead of Ben. Jaison was very calm, very impressive and called Ben out very well. He had great counters to each statement Ben made, too. He was already best of that bunch, but wow.. Now hopefully some people can clue Ashley in that it was RUSSELL who tried hard to boot her out. Hmm wonder if someone will find the hidden idol at the other camp. I'd love it if Shambo showed the girls how to start fire with the flint.. Ben telling them to never try could doom them if they survive to later competitions that involve making fire and they WILL come.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 1:30 am
Ben looked very surprised he was leaving, I guess he thought Jaison would not be heard, or just didn't care. I'd love to see Jaison on a role now and Russell H. leave next; that tribe is full of followers, I think he has a real chance to lead the others to do what he wants, but I can see him build them up to win, not tear them down to lose. Hope so. Russell S. may have made a huge mistake with the comfort items, they will be over very quickly. Those women should not be there if they need a comforter, they have to get used to being in a jungle, with the comforts, they'll just miss home even more. I think he should have stuck to things they need, it just might come back to bite him. I like Shambo too, but I wish she would find a way to acclimate with her tribe, rather than focus on the differences. I think if Gala looses a challenge, she'll go and if she is there for the merge, Fao Fao may think she has no loyalty and they'd want her out. I'd love for her to stay, though. The turns are slowly starting, hopefully they will continue to happen and not stagnate on Russell H. again.
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Reenie
Member
06-24-2006
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 4:50 am
AND I don't think Galu doing yoga was such a big deal! Out of 24 hours, they probably did it for 45 minutes. Shambo made too big a deal of it.JMHO
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 5:07 am
Okay, I've been amused with E-Russ until last night. He was just plucking my nerves last night. Shambo is failing at the social game with her tribe. It's easy for her to look at Foa Foa with a romanticized idea of how well she would fit in there, but if she was really there, she probably wouldn't. I want to like her, but I think she needs to lighten up and join her team more. The yoga example is perfect. Sure you have time to do yoga. You don't spend all day getting food and water. Morale is huge and if it helps, go for it. I remember Kelly Wiggins doing yoga. Love Jaison. Hope he sticks around. So glad Ben is gone. You could tell by Ben's exit interview that he is not going to learn a damn thing about himself from this experience. Oh, and I thought choosing comfort over function was dumb as hell.
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Gurliegirl
Member
06-20-2006
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 5:26 am
I'm thrilled that Ben is gone and maybe I'm an odd man out, but I don't think ERuss is all that Evil. He's playing the game. Now, granted...next week he'll take ALL the credit for getting rid of Ben, but eh. He's playing the game. I was just thrilled that he got a new swimsuit.
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Gurliegirl
Member
06-20-2006
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 5:31 am
Thank you for validating my feelings Flamingo. What on earth is with the entire show being about only one tribe? Is it because they go so fast that we'll get to the other tribe when this one has eaten all of it's own? Makes no sense.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 5:39 am
I was glad ERuss didn't get his way last night and Ben went home. I can put up with ERuss for another couple of weeks since they threw us a bone with Ben. Jaison was great last night. I hope he stays a long time. Shambo was good also . . . "are you frikkin kidding me?" She's funny. Big Russell screwed up with the pillows pick. It made no sense, even with his rationale. I don't like how they have set up a player on each team to have a big fat target put on their backs (both leaders).
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 6:54 am
Yeah, that comfort stuff was of NO use at all. First rain and what little of it is any good will be ruined. That was one of the dumbest moves ever. That one guy was absolutely right about needing that tarp. I liked big Russell up until now, but that was just a dumb move.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 6:56 am
Comfort items -- like someone in the tribe said, first rain the pillows and comforters will be soaked. You could be dry under a tarp.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 6:58 am
The look on the guys' faces on Big Russ' team while the girls were squealing their approval with his pick pretty much said it all. They are not happy, and I suspect BR's days are going to be numbered by the amount of time that elapses before the rains hit.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:27 am
If I had been on his tribe I would have been offended by his "you got to take care of your women" comment. I'm by no means a feminist but if I went on Survivor (HEAVEN FORBID) I would want to be considered a full-fledged contributing equal member...not someone who needs to be taken care of.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:33 am
Oh Roxip, I'm glad I wasn't the only one offended by that. It seemed so patronizing to me.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:34 am
Eliza from Survivor All-Stars interviewed Ben this morning. This is what she tweeted after: @eorlins: Ben from #Survivor Samoa is truly a despicable human being. In his interview he actually said "I'm not racist & they're not slaves anymore."
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:38 am
Haven't read all this thread yet but Russell HAD to vote with the others to get rid of Ben. Otherwise, he'd be exposed as the snake who started all the rumors and controversy. He wasn't being smart at all, he was just covering his (crusty, according to Pamy) butt.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:20 am
Roxip & Tishala .. I so agree. I like like Russell but was really turned off by his monologue about taking care of his women. Not only were his words patronizing but the fact that no one called him out on it was weird. There were a few confessionals where the guys were frustrated with Russell's choosing the comfort and with his trying to gain favor with the women... but no mention of it was patronizing to the women. I wondered if the guys really don't like him and so just dismissed the comment.
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 9:08 am
Just when I thought Ben couldn't be any lower, I read Eliza's text. 
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 9:18 am
I think Ben really underestimated Jaison. Seeing the way Ben treated the visitor from the other tribe, (can't remember her name) he is obviously racist and I feel he dismissed Jaison as being no threat. Bwahahaha. Guess he got fooled.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, October 02, 2009 - 11:44 am
I think Ben OVERestimated his own abilities. Both within the entire game and within the social game. Whether he's a racist or not, he should've said the things he did. He also overestimated his worth to the team, especially after getting kicked out of the challenge last week and yet not really understanding why or even apologizing to his team.
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