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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL!!!! and YAH!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, October 09, 2009 - 4:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Aha.........I don't know the Moderators that well, Pamy. Great Idea......I was chasing after Seamonkey. I can be the great spoiler/speculation retriever and you can be the great Moderator retriever!

Thanks for any help, Jimmer!

Panda
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 09, 2009 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
well in last night's ep we got to see the official start of Natalie/ER to the end! Now I like to see how it will all unfold! I like knowing ahead of time...hee heeee

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 09, 2009 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Ginger, you do all the heavy lifting here :-) I am happy to help.

Jimmer is the man behind the banners at the top of show threads, he is the Banner Rock Star!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I will be bringing over spoiler/speculation information regarding Survivor: Heroes and Villains (Series #20) at this link.

If you don't want to know, please do not go there!

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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, October 09, 2009 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Missyae --- spoiler who is posting at Survivor Blows, has new input for today 10/9.
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missyae
10-09-09, 10:11 PM (EST)

89. "RE: The missyae spoilers"
Okay gang here is some new stuff for you. I hope you enjoy it. I am sure it will be copied, posted, and claimed elsewhere by others but this is the first posting on this information.
When the 4 players of Foa Foa who make the merge saw Erik find the hidden immunity idol last night while viewing the show, they were shocked. All four had no idea he ever had an immunity idol because when he was voted out first after the merge there was no talk of it.

Those 4 Foa Foa members say they were shocked to see the Galu members vote out one of their own for the first boot after the merge. They all thought one of them would be the target, most likely Russell. Now a couple of them think the reason Erik did get voted out that night was to flush out the idol. They think others found out somehow Erik had it because they say it made no sense to them that night that one of them was not targeted. Now they think they know why. Something else that made this even more amazing was that none of the Foa Foa members had individual immunity that night and Erik still went home.

I will go ahead and confirm something lots have speculated on, Shambo does flip after the merge and basically become one of Foa Foa. When she made her trip over to Foa Foa to visit we saw her bond with everyone except Russell. More tricky editing folks because Shambo and Russell were and are tight. In fact CBS checked with both of them about maybe doing The Amazing Race but Shambo had no interest. She is still nursing some neck and shoulder problems today. Funny little tidbit - she did think by urinating near the chickens, it would make them bond with her more.

Something else speculated on I can confirm - Ben and Russell did make a fake immunity idol and Shambo did find it. I do not know if it will come into play but I was led to think it will not. What I was told was the editors decided to go another route with it because they have spent so much time in the past with fake idols and also because it never had an impact on the game.

One other thing about immunity idols, Russell will use his.

Did you know Mick is still in his internship as an anesthesiologist? Nope, not a real doctor.

Something else everyone is being misled about is the new editing of Natalie. Probst mentions how smart she's playing and the editing last night was trying to lead us into that line of thinking, do not buy it. Her gameplay consists of trusting someone else to get her to the end.

I think I have already told you after Russell Swan went down they brought both tribes to Tribal Council but nobody was voted out. This is one thing the people who were involved with the show are wondering about. They are wondering if this Tribal will even be shown and if it is, will it mean there will be 2 Tribal Council's for that weekly episode.

Another question that popped up after last night's episode and Jeff's blog was - is it a final 2 or 3. On the show a player mentioned getting to the final 2 and in Jeff's blog he mentioned the possibility of could Natalie and Russell reach the final 2. Well I guess they love leading us astray because it will be a final 3.

If you wanna know exactly who those 3 players are just scroll down a little bit. I will give a small space now in case some of you do not want to know. Of course nobody is supposed to know who won but the players do call and mail each other so there is a really good idea of who won. As far as another 'spoiler' saying Russell H. did not receive any votes, someone is telling lies. Either that 'spoiler' is telling a lie, or people on the jury are telling a lie because some of them have stated who they voted for.

Scroll down for the final 3.

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So Galu has them outnumbered 8-4 and 3 of the 4 make it to the final 3. I was told after the merge there will be lots of scrambling around by the Foa Foa players and lots of strategy to get to the final three. I was told we have not seen any strategy yet but it is coming after the merge.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 4:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Pamy ... tell Jimmer he is sexy again!

Then ask him to go over to #20 General Spoiler and put all that heavy warning type up at the top like he did for #19. I think that it is very helpful in keeping posters out that don't want to be spoiled.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 4:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
<<-----Thinks Jimmer is too sexy for his shirt and his cat... but sexy enough to put up heavy warning type stuff at the top of #20.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
JIMMER IS HANDSOME AND SEXY!

Hi Jimmer!!! pls see Ginger's post above. You can also see Lexie's post above to get a smile for the day :-)

Thanks again for all your hard work!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What does this mean: "I think I have already told you after Russell Swan went down they brought both tribes to Tribal Council but nobody was voted out." I don't know what "went down" means... was he evicted or did he get hurt?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hi Costacat..........Go back in this thread and read the post Seamonkey brought in on 10/3. (Edited: Also, go over and read all the same-related stuff where we have Episode 6 listed.) It's all about the challenge for Episode 6, where one member has emergency medical attention for dehydration. Then a few posts after that I have a whole slew of spoiler stuff from Missyae listed. She states that the next person medivacced is Russell Swan. Then, in a subsequent posting of stuff I brought over from MIssyae, she said, "I think I have already told you after Russel Swan went down they brought both tribes to Tribal Council but nobody was voted out."

So, if I have this right.......from reading the rest of her posts, and easedropping on posters at other sites .... Episode 5, coming up will have both a RC and a IC. Russell S. will still be there cause he is in all the caps. In Episode 6, after all the rains where neither tribe can get their firewood dry to make a fire to boil water to drink, everybody is dehydrated. They have a challenge where one person from each tribe is tied inside a huge ball, 2 blind-folded players push the ball using directions hollered at them from the person rolling around in the ball. Plus, 2 more blind-folded players are waiting for them at a maze table. Foa Foa thinks they have won the challenge, but there is an medical emergency on Galu and it is Russell S. He is dehydrated.........but, Missyae is telling us that his medivac was due to a previous injury. So this is where it gets fuzzy about the "went down" statement. Regardless, she has said that Russell Swan is the next to be removed from the game for medical reasons and that neither tribe loses another player that night at TC.

In the article written about the preview of the game that Seamonkey brought over, the guy being interviewed said that they were unable to finish the game because of the medical thing...so, sounds like they do not declare a winner.

It also sounds like this was an IC, so we still may have an RC to watch.

Why they took both tribes to IC, she doesn't know. Also, she doesn't say if they took the two tribes together or individually. My guess is that it was pep talk and to bring each tribe up-to-date on the status of Russell S. This may be the medivac that Jeff talked about in one of his Blogs that scared the life out of him. However, he may have been referring to Mike's medivac earlier, but I think it might be this one.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Latest information from Missyae regarding Season 19, Survivor:Samoa
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I am mostly working now on things after the merge.

The way I have been told for the next couple of episodes is that Ashley leaves this week - Russell Swan goes down for Galu - then Jaison leaves for Foa Foa.

One of the things I was trying to nail down was which other Foa made the merge and I asked the question if Jaison left shortly after the merge and was quickly told - no thats not how it goes down. So I said, oh then Liz makes the merge and was told, yeah.

Something I can tell you about the promo of Russell telling Liz she was on thin ice is that when the people involved in that promo saw it - they could not even remember what it was about. So I guess it really is nothing major.

I also am trying to find out more about the hidden idols. Of course I have told you Erik did not play one when he was voted out. I am trying to find out if maybe someone else had it in their possesion. I was told the 4 Foa Foa players were shocked to see last week's episode in that they could not believe he didnt play it because it was obvious they were after him at Tribal Council.

Russell's hidden idol will be played. However, the way I was told is that it really did not need to be played but 'why have one and not use it?'

I think the egos of the jury will have a lot to do with how they vote. If they hold a grudge, I think it will be hard for Russell to win. If they appreciate strategic moves, he would have a good shot.

Keep in mind, I have been told his strategy about this is sorta like Mike Tyson - if I knock you out, I am champ because I beat you.

As far as how could Foa Foa pull this off, so far I am told that we just have not seen any strategy yet but when they merge we are really gonna see lots of it from Foa Foa.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Ginger, awesome stuff!!! I cant wait to see it all play out!

Costacat
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Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ginger, thank you! I didn't have time to scroll back and your summary jogged my memory just enough! :-)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sorry, Ginger.. between all my driving lately and taking classes and some other stuff in real life and some nights where all I see is charts, I've been overly tired and sleeping more.. I need more hours in the day, I swear and I know I'm not nearly as busy as most people here!

And I have never used NEW MSG so my name in a post won't pull me in..

You are just AWESOME! I don't like the news you are bringing AT ALL, but you didn't create it!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
You know what, Sea .... I have never used the NEW MSG thing either. I just know that we have to head our entries with something non-spoiler in nature, even if it is "la-de-da" so that posters who do use the NEW MSG and don't want to be spoiled don't see something that don't want to see. For the most part, we do that very well here in this thread. It doesn't hurt to remind people periodically, though, especially since we get new people coming in.

Sorry about the news I am bringing. Glad you pointed out that I don't create it! (LOL)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Latest input over at Survivor Blows from Missyae:
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One thing I have not done is to try to fit spoilers within a mystery calendar someone might think were the exact filming dates. I think it's easier and better to get the spoilers and let the editing department worry about how they are going to fit everything in.
Like I said, the general feeling about the Tribal Council with both tribes and nobody leaving is it most likely won't even be shown. My question was "why would they not show something like that?" I was told the feeling was it was just to ask some questions, see how everyone was doing, and give info on Russell Swan's condition.

Keep in mind I was told the timing of events when Russell Swan went down played out with them not having to go to Tribal after that. Now it could very well be the 'No Vote Tribal' was after that and therefore it was fair.

If I am just looking at the chain of events to come and not looking at a filming calendar it would appear:

1. Ashley leaves
2. Russell Swan goes down
3. No Vote Tribal
4. Jaison leaves
5. Merge
6. Erik leaves without using hidden idol

Now making that fit into a mystery filming calendar is not my field, lol.

Shambo flips

Final 3:

Russell
Mick
Natalie

There sure does seem to be lots of people thinking or hoping Ashley does not leave this week though.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, October 16, 2009 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Latest spoiling as of this evening from Missyae.
She has clarified who it is that leaves after Russell goes down, and it is Liz, not Jaison as first thought. So, Jaison does make the merge.
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From: Missyae
Little bit of new stuff - nothing major probably except the fact that Liz does not make the merge and Jaison does. So for those who are playing Survivor Fantasy games - keep that in mind - Jaison makes the merge - Liz does not.

I was told Jeff Probst was very - very - very scared at how Russell Swan goes down. I was told his eyes rolled back and he started jerking around like you would if you were having a seizure.

I was also told that John Fincher is a game player. He does lots of listening and thinking. He is not the type of player who is open with his strategy but he plays very smart.

I was also told Danger Dave is a good player.

As far as fitting things into the filming calendar I was told there are no double boots. I guess they could have Russell Swan going down and Liz being voted out in the same episode but that is just me speculating - I was not told that is what will happen. I guess it would be up to how they want to edit it. I was also told the finale could begin with the final 5. Would this make things fit - I dont know. Maybe TDT could see if this would work.

I was told the tribal council with both tribes and no boot was basically to check on how the players were doing after the scare with Russell Swan. The producers were concerned because with all the rain they were unable to even make fire and keep it going.
I was also told not only does the merge happen with the 8 Galu members and 4 Foa Foa (Jaison - Mick - Natalie - Russell) but the jury also starts there.

The first jury member will be the first voted out after the merge - Erik.

I know this probably wont answer all the questions people have but its all I have for right now.

I was told how the final 3 think the voting went down.

Players do talk to each other and they have a pretty good idea as to who won.

There is also some talk going around that CBS wants to renew for 2 more seasons but they want to make sure Jeff Probst is onboard.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 5:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Missyae has stated that there are no double boots from here on out .... from the episode when Russell Swan goes down and is evacuated. She also says there are large hints that the Finale night will start out with 5 Survivors and get down to the Final 3 of Mick, ER and Natalie. Several posters are concerned that we have two many players for that to all work out without at least one double boot somewhere, or even two if we don't start with 5 on Finale night.

I can't post at Survivor Blows because they do not accept my hotmail email account when I try to register, so I'm not registered there. However; I am registered at Survivor Skills and I have placed a question/suggestion there this morning and maybe Missyae will see it and answer.

I read there is no car challenge and no family visit challenge. It occurred to me that we might have an episode or two where we see two separate immunity challenges with two separate tribal councils, and the players wouldn't know the difference of how it would be edited and shown to the viewers. So, I asked if they had any immunity challenges where they had no reward challenges in between, or if they have any more combo reward/immunity challenges after the episode where Russell Swan goes down.

Might be a solution to the scheduling problem. The finale night is December 13th.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
good question, she is going to be impressed!

I think she gets her info from a crew member or she knows a player so good idea on the editing, her intel wouldnt have a clue

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
After Jeff commenting on it at last tribal council, I was wondering if they took both teams to tribal council both to brief them of RussellS's departure AND to warm them up and dry them off. Maybe they even let them spend the night. I am thinking Jeff wrote in his blog recently that he had never seen a season when the players endured so much hardship. And Australia was pretty damn brutal, so ...

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, October 19, 2009 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Somebody at Survivor Blows asked a similar question to mine yesterday, and Missyae answered it last night:
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I don't think I would have much luck in jogging someone's memory about a reward challenge towards the end of the game, that long ago. My experience in this has taught me that the people involved out there have a hard enough time remembering week to week what happened that long ago, much less something out of sequence.
When people bring up this calendar thingy I have always speculated they could still put 2 tribals into 1 show with just editing. Just because it did not happen like that during the game does not mean they can't edit it like that. All I know is they did not have an official double boot.

It sure is starting to appear that next Thursday night's show will have no boot though. It looks like it will be a long drawn out night of Russell Swan drama. Maybe we get to see that tribal with both tribes and no boot after all.

Nothing really new to report for now.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, October 19, 2009 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okey --- Dokey!!! I hope I can explain this properly.......

I have read over at Survivor Blows and also at TDT, something that was rumoured by "Wezzie" over at Survivor Sucks, that the originally planned date for the Finale of 12/13 has been pushed to 12/20. There has been so much hype about how in the world could we have an evacuation show this week with no boots, and then one boot next week, and then a merge the following week with no double boots from here on out, and still have a Finale on the 13th. If the rumour is correct, then the scheduling works out without any double boot (as spoiled) and a Finale starting with 5 Survivors (which is unusual). Speculation is that the push off to the 20th was put into play so that this week's show could be just a "one day in the life of" show, with a challenge, an evacuation, and both tribes going to TC (either together or separately, not known) and no boot. Jeff is hyping it as a tear-jerker episode.

The 12/20 Finale Date has not been announced yet. It's just a rumour.........so stay tuned. If you seen anything differently, let us know. Meanwhile, I'll be watching.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, October 19, 2009 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Ginger, you never fail to keep us up to date on the late breaking news. I so appreciate your scouring the other sites and bringing us back your well thought out notes. Thank you!!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Good stuff Ging. Regarding everyone bringing bringing up a double boot and the date of the finalé: technically, when Michael was evacuated they still had TC that night so they had their "double boot" of sorts. Is it possible a double boot was planned for the season, but with Mike's evacuation, TC that same night, and now Russell going down tonight, they ditched it?