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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The question mark is because I just have to assume there is a show on the 15th.. Title not known yet but I have a little spoiler that goes with the 22nd and put it in end of season spoilers but think people often avoid that thread.

Seamonkey
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
This info cannot be considered TOO spoilerish since it appeared in print in the EW Magazine but it looks like the second evacuation MIGHT not be until the Oct 22 episode.

Anatomy of a 'Survivor' Challenge

Survivor challenge producer John Kirhoffer wrote us from Samon (via a message in a bottle) with a sneak peek at the preparations behind an upcoming reward challenge

We often discuss our favorite challenges from the past, one being "Monkeys in a Barrel" from the Cook Islands, where people were rolled around inside a wooden barrel. (A basic rule of thum is "Dizzy people are funny.") To change it up a bit, this time we came up with a design for a "Helio-sphere" apparatus, and assigned a team of prop makers to begin welding up the actual spheres. After testing the challenge (which we dubbed "Roll With It"), we realized the only way to keep the person inside safe was to strap them in. We then decided to blindfold the rest of the tribe and have the dizzy person inside guide them through the course. Continuing with the rolling-ball theme, the person inside would have to guide the four blindfolded players to roll a ball through a large table maze.

During our rehearsals we made some modifications. We originally had several obstacles on the course, with different stations for the players to stop the giant ball and retrieve bags of puzzle pieces through a series of wacky and overly complicated maneuvers. We soon learned that was counter-productive to the raw fun and energy of racing the ball blindfolded along the course to the puzzle table. By the time the actual contestants played the game, it worked beautifully -- until unrelated dehydration caused one of our players to collapse and Jeff Probst had to get the person immediate medical attention (see what happens Oct. 22 on CBS). So, after all that, we never even got to see "roll With It" play through to completion.

To see a rehearsal for this challenge, go to ew.com/ontheset

Hey, this is pretty cool!

http://tinyurl.com/ydhqz7e

Ginger.. not sure where this info can be used..

Seems to tell us that on the show the 22nd there will still be 5 on each tribe at least (one in the sphere, two pushing, two manipulating the ball/maze table. Currently we have six on the yellow tribe, and if there are shows on both the 8th and the 15th of October, that means that the yellow tribe may have one at least one immunity before the show that airs the 22nd. (Foa Foa)

This could be the second removal for medical, or not.

So wherever, whatever, whenever.. feel free to use this info.

Pamy
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
it also sounds like they never finish the challenge. Is that a first?

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is the right place to have all the info, Sea...but it also seems to reflect on a spoiler/speculation for the next 2 episodes, on the 8th and the 15th. If there are 5 in the challenge, that would mean that Foa Foa still has 1 to lose before the 22nd.......I would think.
If Foa Foa has 5 (1 in ball and 4 outside) then so will Galu with 4 sitting out). I think I'm doing the math right.

10/1 - Foa Foa has 6 and Galu has 10
10/8 - Foa Foa loses one here
10/15 - or here
10/22 - Foa Foa has 5

And, of course, this does not take into consideration a possible double boot on 10/8 or 10/15, nor does it take into consideration another medical evacuation not related to the 22nd, and maybe the 22nd doesn't get evacuated.

It's just too early to tell.........but that #5 on one of the teams has to be Foa Foa, so that tells me somebody is leaving Foa Foa on the 8th or the 15th, either by boot or evacuation.

Thanks Sea!!!........

Pamy
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
what about someone sitting out?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Well yes, what Pamy said.. if the comp was designed for only 5 people, then there could be sit outs.. like having one person sitting out in the last competition, but it does say that Foa Foa cannot lose TWO people before then since they are down to 6 and this says that five people played (or were to play) this challenge that was to air on the 22nd.

I suspect someone will leave from Foa Foa, but what is DOES SAY is that Foa Foa will have one week when they don't lose a person. (unless they are skipping a week)

I typed this out of the magazine that I get by subscription, not sure if that means it was a little bit earlier than on the newstand, but that info is definitely out there. The like to the practic challenge is very cool to see.. the photography was odd..

Pamy
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
its just fun to speculate!

Konamouse
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Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
I enjoyed reading the article also. Shame someone was ill and they weren't able to complete the challenge on the show - it looked really cool.


Alaginger
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Monday, October 05, 2009 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I've watched this over and over trying to get the gender mix of who is playing to see whether it is a male or a female that appears to be missing from Foa Foa, in they do indeed go into the 6th Episode with only 5 people I just can't seem to grasp it, and that's assuming the Dream Team is using the same gender mix of what's left available to do the challenge.

Anyway..........I gave up!!!

Seamonkey
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Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Well these weren't the survivors, just stand-ins so they might not have represented the makeup of the tribes exactly (but maybe they did!). Only Jeff is there for the practices and would have been there for real.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yeah ... the Dream Team is made up of one person to represent each person on the two tribes. A long time ago, when they were in China, we had a preview of the challenge they did up on the wall and it was 3 gals and a guy, or 4 gals and a guy ... can't remember which, but that told us that the gals were going to make it that far.

That's why I was trying to follow the video with the yellow ball and figure out the gender. I saw what was in the yellow ball, and the purple ball, and the purple maze table, but not the yellow maze table. I'll watch it a few more times between now and the 22nd. It's a shame they didn't get to finish the challenge, but from this video we still might be able to figure out some times for the 8th and the 15th....you never know.

Alaginger
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Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I'm getting dizzy looking at this thing (LOL).

I see a girl in each ball. A guy and a girl pushing each ball. At the purple table maze I see two girls (blindfolded) and at the yellow table I see 1 guy and I just can't make out on the other side. I think it's a guy, but there are two people over there, and without seeing above the chest, I can't tell if they are blindfolded or not...so there could still be a blindfolded girl over there that doesn't come into view (and it is a very quick view).

So, if the Dream Team is right by gender, the Foa Foa tribe (if they are at 5 people) looks to be two girls and 3 guys.

Seamonkey
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
That would go along with Russell wanting Ashley to be next to go.. but thought he'd go after Jaison, but of course others could override him, as they already have done.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Last night I noticed that the posters at Survivor Blows have started a thread about this. So far they were down to one poster suggesting that this tells them there are 5 players on each side required as a potential spoiler.

One or more of them have the capability of taking that video and breaking it down into still shots. When they get around to doing that, they may talk more about the gender part of it...and if so, I'll be able to easedrop (LOL) and bring it over to you.

Gurliegirl
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gurliegirl a private message Print Post    
I get dizzy just reading about this comp.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay ... TDT has some still shots from the video, and a typed explanation of the challenge.

...one contestant being strapped inside the giant ball, with two other (blindfolded!) contestants pushing it. So the rolling person has to shout directions to her tribemates. After rolling a brief distance, they reach a tilting maze table, in which the (still strapped into the ball) non-blindfolded contestant must then guide the rollers and two more blindfolded tribemates in navigating a ball into a hole in the maze.

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The purple, which is Galu has 2 girls at the table, 1 girl in the ball, and a guy and a girl pushing the ball. This is a Reward Challenge.
I still cannot see the gender make-up of the yellow tribe (Foa Foa).

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey..........the title of Episode 6 is

"This Is The Man Test"

If you would like to fix the header, that would be great, cause this is where I plan to bring over any pics and/or promos starting tomorrow for episode 6.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

1
Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, the storms continue to batter both tribes.

2
Kelly: The elements out here, it's gonna break you down.

3
Jaison: *crying*

Jeff Probst: And another castaway goes down.

7
Jeff <at Immunity Challenge>: Hold up, hold up, hold up! Everybody hold up, medical! Hold where you are.

4
Dave & Monica Stunned (Sitting Out for Galu)

6
Kelly Stunned (Also sitting out for Galu)

5
Liz Stunned (Foa Foa's person in the ball)

8
Eric, blindfolded, at Galu table and person down was also at the table. I'm going to guess here that Galu's person in the ball is Laura.

9
Person in above picture with green shirt, turns around. Must not be a doctor, cause the next picture has the doctor.

10
The person who calls the shots ... the doctor.

And, from past spoilers, we already know the person that goes down is Russell S. at Galu.

And, from past spoilers, we know that both tribes wind up going to TC and nobody else goes home during this episode, other than the evacuee. Not clear at this point if the TC visits by both tribes will be shown on the episode show or not, plus when the challenge was called, it appears that Foa Foa thought they had a win.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Man oh man. If you have any kind of a heart, you have to be feeling for Foa Foa. It’s been a long time since a tribe has performed this poorly. You’d have to go all the way back to Survivor: Palau when Stephanie’s tribe was decimated week by week until she was the only person left in her tribe.

I have to stand up for all of the Survivors from this season. It was a very difficult shoot. The rain was constant and it took a real toll on everybody, crew included. It’s so easy to sit at home and say ”oh just get over it,” but it truly is an extremely difficult experience to undergo.

99.99% of the people who say they want to play Survivor, couldn’t handle Survivor. It is an ass-kicking, humility inducing, physically exhausting, and mentally taxing test of the human spirit. In spite of all the challenging comments I make about the Survivors, at the end of the day, I take my hat off to them for embarking on this adventure.

I really do believe that at times the contestants are happy to come to tribal simply to get warm. It’s so hard to send them back to camp especially when it’s pouring down rain and you know their fire has been extinguished by the rain and they’re probably going to have another very wet and cold night.

REWARD CHALLENGE

Ah, I’m so glad I didn’t have to sample any of the Survivor Smoothie’s. They were chunky, smelly, nasty concoctions. The guts of a sea slug? Come on. What kind of a sick mind thinks of this stuff? Oh that’s right, we do. My bad.

INSIGHT: The foods that we use for these types of challenges are not just randomly selected. We always have a local person advising us on the types of foods that locals eat on a regular basis. Once we have a list, we then cull it down to the most unusual and ”gross” foods to serve to the Survivors. As disgusting as the food may seem, we always take precautions to make sure the food is ‘’safe” and is served as it would be to locals. Then again when it’s sea slug guts, there’s really not much you can do other than serve it up.

PERSONAL INSIGHT: The only times I have tried foods in the past are the grubs from Survivor: Borneo, (the crunchy head was the toughest part to get down) the cows blood from Survivor: Kenya (it came straight from the cow into our glasses and tasted like tomato juice), and finally the baked tarantula (I can’t remember which season it was from) which was disgusting. Other than that I always find a way to be ”busy” when there is testing to be done.

Dave Ball and Eric did a good job of getting to Ashlee by making gagging sounds and taunting her about what she was drinking. Challenges like this one are a great example of mind over matter. There isn’t anything in those smoothies that you physically can’t get down your throat; it’s simply a choice where you put your energy and what thoughts you allow in your mind. If you spend all your energy focusing on how bad something is, you are only making it that much more difficult. Ashlee wasn’t able to block it out and she paid the price. The ultimate price.

OVER AT GALU
Russell sent a huge signal to Shambo by sending her back over to Foa Foa, thus eliminating her from the reward feast. Three Galu members sat out of the Survivor Smoothie challenge and yet they all got to eat steak as reward. Shambo was one of the five who had to gut it out and she gets sent away again…? Being a leader is tough, but that move left a mark for sure and it also sent a big message to Foa Foa – Shambo is a free agent. If Shambo makes it to the merge, payback could be painful for Galu.

Russell is really starting to ”feel” the leadership role. The conversation with Russell and Dave Ball regarding making fire was about as annoying as it gets for me. Just step up and make the damn fire. Dave, quit being so passive aggressive. And Russell, when Dave offers to shake hands and make up, stick your damn hand out. Ah, but that is so easy to say when you’re not in the middle of the game of Survivor. Suffering through every minute of every hour of every day…for 39 days…if you’re lucky.

Did you see the rain during the immunity challenge? DUMPING. I love it.

PERSONAL INSIGHT: Nothing makes me happier than rain during a challenge. I am always hustling the crew when I see clouds coming. ”Let’s go, let’s step it up so we’re ready to shoot!” They usually remind me, ”Uh, we are ready to shoot Jeff. Been ready for an hour. You’re the one still fussing with your hair.” Okay that’s a lie, I don’t fuss with my hair, that’s part of the reason I wear a hat. I really do have the greatest job in the world. I throw on a shirt, shorts, a cap and some flip-flops and yell things like ”pick up your coconuts.” Who knew life could be this good? But I will say again here and now – the short sleeve shirts are gone after this season. It was an experiment that didn’t work. I look ridonkulous.

Liz is in trouble. Uh-oh. She challenged Russell. Wow, did you see him turn? He turned in a matter of three seconds. He is frightening. ”You’re walking on thin ice. Right now. Let me tell you. Thin ice. Period.” Whoa. That dude is scary. No wonder nobody votes him out. I wouldn’t. I don’t want him mad at me. Liz survived tonight because of the tremendous effort she gave at the Immunity Challenge. That is the only thing that will save her in the future. Big time effort. Russell has his sights set on taking her out and from what I’ve seen ‘ole Russell is not quick to forgive.

QUICK POLL:
For those of you who respond to this blog, I’d love to hear from you regarding your two favorites to make it to the end and the two you’d least like to see win and why. I’m always curious whom the audience is pulling for. Is it the people who are standing out the most? The most likable? Are there any dark horses in the running? Does anybody want Evil Russell to make it to the end?

TRIBAL COUNCIL
The most interesting thing about Tribal Council was the two very different reactions that Russell and Natalie had after voting out Ashlee. Russell was his typical joyful self but Natalie appeared truly sad to have voted out her friend.

It’s interesting because as the game continues, those little nuances begin to play a much larger role in the game. Russell had just said he trusted Ashlee and more importantly he sat there as Ashlee said she trusted him. Then he voted for her, they all did. As the votes were read, Russell was almost laughing he was so happy. That sends a signal to the others that ”trust” is a loose word with Russell. I think it’s one of his most glaring giveaways. He can’t control his reactions and sooner or later I think it is going to catch up to him.

NEXT TIME ON…SURVIVOR.

INSIGHT: Way back in 2000 at the end of our first episode of the first season, we were getting ready to record the very first ”Next time on…Survivor.” We were in the voice-over booth and we had a bit of a showdown as I was insistent that we leave enough time in the show for a dramatic pause between ”next time on… ” and ”Survivor.” It was one second. One silly second. But when you put a network show together, every single second counts. I’m not exaggerating. You find yourself trimming one second here, two seconds there. So to ”waste” a second for a pause was not something that was normally done, especially for a seemingly meaningless line like ”next time on.” But from the beginning Mark and I always we wanted the show to look and sound different and this was one of the many, albeit small, ways we endeavored to stay true to that philosophy. To this day the pause still lives…

NEXT TIME ON…SURVIVOR for real
Next week’s episode features one of the scariest moments I’ve had in my entire run on Survivor. Check that – the scariest. I’m not trying to over hype. I’m just giving you a tease. I don’t want you to get your expectations so high that you’re let down, but I am going to be honest that for a few seconds during next week’s episode I was really worried we were in danger of losing a contestant… forever.

Juju2bigdog
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Alaginger forgot to add in the above post that it is Jeff's blog for this week, not Ginger's comments.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Jimmer --- Help!!!

Oh, My Goodness.........thank you Juju

Maybe the Moderator will pick up on this and fix it for me.

I cut and pasted the article, but forgot to put my header like I usually do.......Jeff's Blog

Alaginger
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Tribal Council Voting for Episode 5:

Tribal Council Voting
Find out what each member of Foa Foa had to say as they cast their votes

Mick (Ashley): Please don't take this too personally. We're down to 6 people, we had to choose somebody. I think this is the consensus. Around camp, if you had a little more motivation, sort of self-motivated. I think the agreement at this point is you may be one of the weaker links physically. That's what this is based on, and nothing else. This is tough. Sorry to see you go. We'll talk soon.

Natalie (Ashley): Ashley, I'm voting for you because this is what my core alliance vote with. This is the hardest vote I think I'll make in the entire game. I'm sorry. Love you girl. You're awesome.

Jaison (Ashley): <says nothing>

Liz ("Ashlie"): Sorry, but everyone wants to put you out of your misery.

Russell (Ashley): You're lazy, you can't think for yourself, you can't do for yourself, and that's why you gotta go home. It's because of me you're going home. I'm out here playing for one million dollars. Never trust me.

Ashley (Liz): I trust you the least out of everyone.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to CT Girl at Survivor Blows, a link to a video of Russell Swan going down! He hits his head.

http://tinyurl.com/yfzkejh

Juju2bigdog
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Looks pretty bad.

Konamouse
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Friday, October 16, 2009 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
(extra line to avoid spoiler, just in case, but since this is going to be shown as a commercial on air anyway, seems everyone will know about it before the show is on).
He was fainting and hit his head on the corner of the maze on his way down. Dehydration can lower blood pressure, that might have caused his fainting.