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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Still waiting to watch (eager!) Russell scoured the place searching for that last HII without a clue plus has been busy as a bee hauling fire wood more than the others. Seems like once he had a clue he could head straight to the spot immediately.

Does anyone know that he has the newest idol?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Biscottiii, I didn't see him tell anyone that he had it, this time. But I'm guessing people might suspect he has it.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Yes Biscottiii, that lucky devil found it again! He and the rest of the team he was on won the reward challenge. One of the extras of the reward was a nice electronic gadget from Sprint, so they could take photos of their experience. One clue appeared on the gadget screen, so they all (winning team) got to see it. He, of course, went looking for it immediately upon returning to camp and luckily found it AGAIN! I can't remember if he told anyone he found it this time. (I may have jetted out for a quick snack and missed it if he did.)

Sit real still so you don't miss anything during this episode! It starts out interesting and a little slow, but MAN does it build from there. This is the best episode yet!!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I wonder if it occur to ANYONE who did not go on the reward trip to start looking for the idol while they were gone? They were so determined to keep the idol out of Russell's hands, did it not seem the best way would be for one of them to find it themselves? Is it stupidity or just laziness?

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Yes, they could only vote for L and N in the second vote - and why have them vote if they can't vote for themselves, so they're already canceled out.

Also - I listened and Jeff DID say "now would be the time to play the idol" this week.

LMAO at Russell not only outrunning but LOSING Dave on the paths!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Lilifair, I was also stunned by the "your beauty is probably confusing them." Please. She is not ugly, but compared to the other younger girls, she is certainly not beautiful enough to confuse anyone. Ah, a parent's love.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Have they always put the immunity idol back in play? Didn't it used to be on that island? I'm not enjoying this season at all for that reason. Russell will stay forever if he keeps finding the idol. How is that playing the game of Survivor. He never wins comps.

Teach, something was up with Dave being sooo far behind that Russell had time to keep searching for the idol.

I keep getting the feeling Russell is a plant and they will tell the others at the end. How is it he can find all the idols so easily?

They need to quit putting them back. I don't like him one bit and I'm not liking Shambo at this point.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
I was wondering that, too, Allie. It seemed like the perfect time to search, while the other half of the tribe was gone on their reward trip. They only focused on the team who won the reward, though, and didn't show us anything that was going on back at camp.

There's a good chance that they were smart enough to look for it, and the search never made it to the edited version of the episode. There are probably lots of things going on behind the scenes that don't make the show.

Then again, the producers (and certainly Jeff Probst) have been keeping a majority of air time on Russell - so in the interest of centering the storylines around him, it doesn't seem that many of the other players have much camera time.

Flamingo
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08-19-2003

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Flamingo a private message Print Post    
there is no way Russell is finding the idols all on his own. And the cameras all just happpen to be there each and every time. No chance. The producers seem to have sold their souls to this guy. in doing so they are sacrificing whatever legitimacy this series had left. It has gotten ridiculous.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Dave was near the stone and ER wanted Dave away from the area.
That's why he left and had Dave chase him.

When he lost Dave he returned and having remembered what the rock looked like he found it when he returned to that area.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Videomic...that was some mighty fine spoiling! Thanks so much for doing that!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Woo hoo! Woo hoo! Loving Russel tonight! I LOL when he ran to get them away from camp, so that he could go back to camp and search for the idol alone. He really is a smart player.

Also glad to see more of John, glad to see him flip. I hope that means he teams up with them and stays around for a while.

Great show! Just stunned that so many would stand by their vote and risk their stay to a rock in a bag. Just stunned by that.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
It doesn't get better than this! I really like how FF4 keeps cool at tribal council. At this point it really is about Galu falling apart.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Seems to me that John and Shambo put great big targets on their backs tonight. And it's a shame because John and Jaison (and sometimes Mick) are the best man-candy this show has had in a while. And they're smart too!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
There was footage on the show of Russell saying he saw a rock that looked like the rock he saw on the Iphone (or whatever it was; apologies to product placement folks), and Dave was just about to turn it over, which is why Russell took off running, so Dave would folow him. Then I think Monica (innocently) distracted Dave while he was chasing Russell, and Dave lost Russell, who went back to the very same spot where Dave was looking, and found the rock he saw on the Iphone and found the third idol.

This is all extremely cute.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
They spend all that money to advertise the Palm Pre (or whatever it was) and we're still not sure!

Seems like Russell will be up to more of his original antics next week... letting the chickens out... why?

I was confused about several parts of Russell's gameplay. Firstly I'm surprised Russell didn't sabotage his team on the reward challenge (go Natalie btw!) so that he had the time and less competition to look for the idol back around camp. He gambled time for a clue, which worked out, but could have gone differently.

Secondly if I'd have seen the message saying go to the memo on that phone thing, I'd have looked at the clue and then deleted it, and everything I could that pointed to it. Instead he chose to not only let other people find the clue by themselves, but actively told them about the clue.

Certainly there's no one else on his team who is really playing the game, it was bad enough Shambo telling <random Galu guy> about the plan but then the others tell Monica, Laura's best friend! But I think some of the men on Galu could have been working quite cleverly, given some of their comments, but as they haven't been getting screen time we'll never know. One of the guys I swear I hadn't even seen before, he was the one in the hammock. He was pretty.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Hi Kitt.

I think Russell lets the chicken out to cause problems in the camp and try to target someone else. Seems like on Survivor, if something like that happens and they suspect someone, that someone will be a goner.
If he doesn't get caught, it's actually kinda smart.

I think Russell knew that when reward had been won before, the group that won got a clue, so I think he realized that if his group won, he would get a clue AND food. I also think he had probably already searched around and knew it would be pretty hard to find without at least one clue. It sure was a heck of a good clue!

Others at this reward challenge had been at the first reward challenge, too, and knew there would most likely be a clue. Others had also had the phone and might have already seen it.

The pretty boy in the hammock is Brett. I swear, I think Jeff chooses him to vote first because otherwise, no one would know who Brett is. LOL

Russell's game has brought this show back to life for me. It was becoming so predictable for me. He seems to have studied the game, and seems to know when to pull out just the right strategy. A strategy that works to his own benefit, of course. I like that in a game-show player.
Also, I haven't heard Russell complain once. I like that, too. I consider him to be playing a pretty perfect game. I don't think anyone really dislikes him. I don't hear them bagging on him except that he's a threat.

Anyway, this season has been a lot of fun for me so far. Mostly because of Russell, but I also like several other players, particularly Dave (love his faces!) and Natalie (love her faces, too. lol)



Who do you guys think Jaison and Mick were talking with Shambo about, in the previews? Do you think they're about to turn on Russell?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
What an absolutely boneheaded move by Galu folks! They offered up (their admitted numbers cruncher/strategist) guy John as the sacrificial lamb, without talking it through with him first no less. AND to rub salt into the wound, they send Monica (whom John has repeatedly said he wanted voted off because she's useless around camp), yep THAT Monica blithely offering John's head on a platter.

THEN expecting John to happily take a gamble on clutching the rock, which might give him a one way trip to Ponderosa, in order to save Laura. They seem surprised that someone flipped & didn't stay "loyal"?

No wonder Galu is getting decimated! Russell & Natalie said before they were 'looking for cracks', but these folks play so stupidly they're producing chasms instead of mere fractures!

ETA: I recognize that offering John's head on the platter was just a ploy, but it sure could have backfired on John.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Samoa - Life at Ponderosa - Laura Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAR2deVEb2s

Survivor: Samoa - Life at Ponderosa - Laura Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wasdfbYUx10

Survivor: Samoa - Life at Ponderosa - Laura Part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuewGFBrs4s

Survivor: Samoa - Life at Ponderosa - Laura Part 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcQ7GN5YCls

Survivor: Samoa - Life at Ponderosa - Laura Part 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xN0qhjYqLQ

Tvclubber
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06-22-2008

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tvclubber a private message Print Post    
Russell gives me as many laughs and as much joy as Rupert gave me. Their mischief is boy-like and backed with a love for the game.

Laura, Laura, Laura. I can't help but wonder if her co-workers rolled on the floor with glee last night.

Monica annoys me on every level.

Shambo's laughter was stress-free, pure, and utterly joyful. As well it should have been. At the challenge, in the post-challenge shelter, and at tribal, she was finally able to be happy. I especially liked how she didn't add poison to the mix. Nice sportsmanship.

Jaison's words at Tribal impressed me last night. He finally showed some Survivor-savvy spine.

Kudos to John for voting the way he did. He played for himself, which is the way the game should be played.

Eric's laughter and joy at Laura's ousting was fun to see.

Mick has behaved admirably throughout the season. So has Natalie.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
They did show the group back at the camp during the reward. They weren't looking for the idol, they were laying in the shelter trying to convince the Galu person to jump ship and vote out Laura (yeah, right, like Monica is going to go against her BFF).

Brett? Brett who (again)? Poor guy must have very little on-air/confessional personality to get so very little air-time. John isn't much more interesting except he was in the thick of the issues tonight.

Mick has been pretty quiet also. He probably hated having that "Leader" role earlier and maybe now he's trying to stay out of the target zone (but winning II last night might backfire unless he can direct attention to someone else next time).

Russell, love his game play (just hated his sexist remarks). You can call people on dumb game play, but you don't have to be so chauvanistic about it. I think this time he has only one person he wants to take with him - Natalie (cause he figures he can beat her in the final explaining her lack of game compared to his outwit/outplay/outlast strategy - and all the idols he found).

Speaking of next time - isn't next week the "Recap" show? How come we didn't get that notification on the "next time, on . . . Survivor"?


Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
We don't know how many cameras are shooting..but a lot I figure to do all the private remarks. They do a nice edit. We do want good TV...and this is season is great.
As far as remarks...I am married to a guy much like Russell. He loves to "gig" me...that means to say outrageous remarks to get a rise out of me. My cage doesn't rattle easily and I give as good as I get. That is true equality.

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
Im betting Bret will go to the end,at least final 4 cause I bet the players forget about him too,hes so far under the radar.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
There's little chance Russell's a plant. After the quiz show scandal of the 50's, there are now harsh penalties for manipulating a show where prize money is involved. Burnett would face lawsuits and jail time.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Concerning the camera just happening to be there when Russel finds the idols, I have no doubt that if there are instances where the camera wasn't there, that they had him reenact finding it for the camera. But I don't think they helped him find it in the first place.