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Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
BULA BULA
The winning folks are back and Earl pops open the bottle of wine immediately. Cassandra says she can feel it going down. Edgardo doesn't want to cook because he says they have so little and he doesn't want to mess it up.

Boo says that challenge saved his butt. He says that he was definitely going. Boo says they got food and it brought his spirits back up.

They sit around and talk about the TC. Earl says it might be something crazy. Edgardo says he is a little worried about Alex right now. He says Mookie has the idol and he might use it wisely. Earl thinks it's a tossup between Stacy and Michelle. Earl is going to keep his fingers crossed that Michelle is still alive because she's a key component in his strategy.

TRIBAL COUNCIL
They arrive and are sitting down. Jeff brings in Rocky and Lisi, the jury members. Jeff wants Dreamz to tell him about the merge. Dreamz says he felt like it was day one all over again except this time people already knew each other. He says he was happy to have friends from both tribes. Alex says his reaction was, "Holy crap." to be going back to having nothing.

Jeff wants to know if Mookie feels paranoia setting in and he says definitely. He says you start to lose yourself and not know where you stand, etc. Especially if you are on the hot seat again and he clarifies that he thinks everyone is on the hot seat since there was no time to talk to people.

Jeff wants to know how uncomfortable Stacy is... she says pretty darn. Dreamz says one good reason to get rid of Stacy is because she's not him. Michelle says she doesn't know who Dreamz is aligned with so it's a good reason to get rid of him (fear of the unknown). Mookie says that the thing with Michelle is that she could have switched sides. Michelle's reason to get rid of Alex is because he's a threat in challenges. Alex says he doesn't have a good reason to get rid of Stacy. Dreamz face falls at this... Alex doesn't have a reason to get rid of anyone. (Sorry, to clarify, Jeff is asking each person for a reason for the other person.)

Dreamz says Alex is just letting them know whose name he's putting on the paper. He says he trusts Alex. Alex thinks this vote will reveal things to the other people eating steak and will show who has been telling the truth and who has been lying.

Time to vote:
Alex votes out Michelle.
Mookie votes out Stacy.

Tally ho, Jeff!

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

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Jeff asks if anyone is going to play the hidden immunity idol and know one makes a motion.

STACY: 2
MICHELLE: 3

9th person voted out... Michelle. Michelle brings Jeff her torch. Alex waves bye. Mookie doesn't look happy. Jeff says it's clear tonight's vote will have a major impact on this game. Sends them back to camp.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

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Michelle voted out

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Intersting that Stacy got two votes, one of them was Michelle's, the other from Moo!

Raenstorm
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Next time: Mookie confronts Dreamz about his vote at TC. The fireworks begin... Dreamz can't keep quiet.

MICHELLE: Amazing experience. Thinks her alliance is a little weaker now that she's not there. Earl will have to find himself a new spy. She says she has confirmed that she knows what kind of person she is and what she's capable of... that she's just as strong as she thought.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Not fair in my eyes that Michelle got squeezed out through no fault of her own. I know survivor blah blah luck blah blah... but she wouldn't have been sent packing if there wasn't this merge but break into two and only the loser team votes.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
It had been Dreamz idea to vote out Stacy, then he changed his vote did anyone catch why he did?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Dre told about Moo's ii!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 6:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the spoiling, Raen and Chy!! I missed the show tonight.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
JP totally got Michelle voted off!! His questions tonite were the most unfair of any TC.
BOOOOO to JP

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I really liked the fact that they took all the luxory away.

Boo, Cass, and Stacy have yet to *survive*.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that was unfair Pamy. Very manipulative.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
How was he unfair? Every person was asked about -- and Alex was the only one who was asked about every other candidate. I thought it was an interesting TC (not quite as good as Dreamz's grilling of Lisi last week), because Alex -- supposed smart guy -- totally outed his entire alliance!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Oops, also wanted to say I think they should do TC like this more often where the teams do NOT get time to strategize and plan between immunity challenge and TC. They can't do last minute changes, they have to go w/their gut and who they think their strongest alliance is -- I'm really enjoying how "mixed" the alliances are this year because of starting as one group, two tribes, mix tribes, one group, two teams -- it's making it harder for pagonging to occur and it's making people really stay on their toes! :-)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
But they got to say quite a lot because of Jeff's questions, so if they listened then they could sort of strategize. I really really hate how much Jeff has intruded into tribal councils and I hate losing Michelle.

I think after this season, people finding a hidden idol would be smart to tell NO ONE.. too many loose lips and people wanting to curry favor, with an idol they didn't even find.

Schoolmarm
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Thanks so much from Exeter, England!

Cheerio to all!

Costacat
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm bummed... I really liked Michelle. I thought she was a great player, and she got blindsided. By all rights, Stacey should've left. I can't wait to hear Dreamz's rationale behind his voting for Michelle to go. Truly, I would've thought he'd have voted to oust Stacey, especially after the way she treated him! Bummed, I say. Bummed!

Otherwise, loved this episode! Loved the fact that they are all back to square one with no luxury in sight. I feel for Mookie, who never got to enjoy even a small bit of luxury (although he was part of a reward challenge feast). And interesting that Boo, Cassandra, and Stacey didn't have to "survive" for long without any luxury.

I loved this twist of the merge at Exile Island, then the teaming up (with the same colors) at the IC. Almost makes up for the unevenness of the game (with the haves vs have nots) up to this point.

Still... Michelle. Bummed! (I nominate her for an All Stars episode! <grin>)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

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Remember, we only see part of what is shown at Tribal Council. There could have been a lot more questioning and this is the only part that was pertinent to the final outcome of the vote.

Scooterrific
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Good point Roxi!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, April 13, 2007 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
In watching the tribal council last night, I got the impression that they wanted Michelle to go, the way they said they never got to know Michelle, have no reason to vote out Stacy, etc. Phil made the comment about sending messages. I think Dreamz just got mixed signals and thought they wanted to vote out Michelle because she was a threat.

Julieboo
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Who is Phil?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, April 13, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think that Dreamz wanted to hedge his bets and stay in good with Alex and Edgardo, so he voted along with them. He hasn't at this point (or at least not that we know) any conversations with anyone in the "other" camp except Cassandra, who he feels is completely loyal to HIM, so he is going to stick with the ones who brung him at this point. He is probably assuming that he will be able to score a few individual immunity necklaces that will carry him further (and given his evident physical ability that is a likely scenario).

He didn't have any loyalty to Michelle, doesn't really know that his friend Cassandra has gone over to their side, and so he had no reason (other than his rampant dislike of Stacy) to keep Michelle.

Maris
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Lol, Julie, I meant Jeff.

Roxip
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But Phil would be good on Survivor too.

Maris
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03-28-2002

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True Roxip and they are both interchangeable to me.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

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Phil... Jeff... doesn't matter to me because they are both SMOKING HOT!!!



Scooterrific
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ROTFLMAO!!!

Pamy
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I actually am getting tired of JP and would love to see Phil do the show...how fun would it be if they switched hosts for the next season...would be fun to see JP running all around the country! and a big plus is that we would get to see more of Phil in every ep of Survivor!

Was Michelle on early show?? did anyone ask her if they asked everyone about each member?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 13, 2007 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
My understanding is that both Jeff and Phil auditioned for Survivor. Jeff got Survivor and Phil ended up with TAR (certainly a great consolation prize).

Scooterrific
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Wow Jimmer knows everything!!!

Chy
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I know we did not see the entire TC and so on, but have the same feeling Roxip talked about regarding Dre. In my observation Dre was probably blinded, flattered by the fact that Alex had included him in his "devotion out in the open". Since Alex's was the only one shown, I'm gonna assume his was the most leading and articulate "answer" to JP's/producers' agenda.

Michelle missed the opportunity to explain to the guys about the Individual Immunity coming up. Mookie missed the opportunity to let it be known that he'll follow the original plan.

I imagine Mookie could have said stuff like, ... having a seemingly solid alliance is great for now, but some of us need to worry about numbers down the line..., c'mon, a few key words from the previous convo between Dre & Moo should've done the trick! But Moo never was able to express himself well under pressure anyways. (He dose those "Fess-up" to the camera ones okay, but every time discussion turn to things he doesn't agree with, he just gets real quiet and mumbles with heads down if he was put on spot.

Stacy go the best deal this time around. If the whole tribe was there to vote, she'd be out for sure. I wonder if the outcome of the Q&A session would have been different if the orange team was there to listen in. Even if the orange team did not get to vote, Alex & Co. might not dare to show their hand so nakedly.

Wow, this game is so much fun, so many possibilities even with the smallest tinker. I hope they don't fold Survivors too soon!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Saturday, April 14, 2007 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Well include me among those who will miss Michelle! I wouldn't have minded Stacy going at all. I've come to really enjoy Michelle, esp. after she fell off the "tower" when she was giving directions and just got back up and continued. I do like that they're making it a "real Survivor." I hated the haves and have nots.