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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
DBS Misdirections for next week's show:

Next time on SURVIVOR: FIJI
· One Survivor surprises everyone when they attempt to use their Reward as a bargaining chip.
(Ginger: This is obviously the Reward Challenge where Yau-Man wins a Ford Truck and then uses it to bargain with Dreamz.)

· The tribe is left in a state of shock when one Survivor reveals their decision of who to send to Exile Island.

· One Survivor creates a hidden path to eavesdrop on conversations, while back at camp, others plot to take him out of the game.

Alaginger
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Fii Episode 13
Promo VoiceOver

JP: Next time on Survivor...Yau-Man's in trouble.

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Dreamz (talking to Stacy and Cassandra): We're going to have to take Yau out.
Stacy: Right.
Dreamz: Now's the time. Please help me.

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Yau-Man (talking to Earl): I have bad vibes.

JP: And the competition reaches a whole new level.
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Yau-Man (at challenge): So, I want to see if I can make a deal.

JP: You're willing to take that risk?

Yau-Man: Yes.

Kookliebird
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
So, are they supposed to try to cut the rope with the ax?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Don't have the particulars yet, Kookliebird!!!

Alaginger
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Interesting info from an interview with Alex this morning.

HANNAH : You had a really tough immunity challenge. You had to climb that pole. I understand you were pretty significantly injured. We didn't really get a sense of it from the show, but you hurt yourself?

ALEX : I did. Climbing the pole - I knew that Boo and Dreamz were probably physically stronger than me, and I knew they'd just eaten, so I had to do something different to maybe try to beat them. Maybe I'll try to scale this thing. In the process they've got these metal things where the spokes go in. I scraped my knee up and down, up and down, as I was going up, as you can see there (in the clip). Subsequently I developed a staph infection in my knee, I had to go to the hospital, I was on antibiotics for a month and a half, I was on crutches.

HANNAH : Wow.

ALEX : My girlfriend was like squeezing puss out of my knee for a week.

HANNAH : (laughs) Too much information. It's early in the morning, people are eating breakfast.

ALEX : It was so nasty, it was so, so nasty.

Alaginger
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Article by Jeff Probst regarding the Finale. NOt much spoiling, but interesting...
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Finale Fever!

Jeff Probst Spills the Juicy Details

TV Guide - Hardcopy 5.7.07 Issue


Survivor: Fiji began with controversy when the Moto tribe won the luxury beach while the Ravu tribe had virtually nothing.

So, it is only fitting that the Survivor: Fiji Finale will end in the same way it began, with major controversy. We'll get to that in a moment.

First a quick recap. As of April 26 (I can't play spoiler for those of you reading this before May 3), we're down to our Final Seven: Alex, Boo, Cassandra, Dreamz, Earl, Stacy and Yau-Man.

Now, as the game enters the "every person for himself" phase, Yau-Man and Earl seem to have the most solid alliance, which puts them in a very good position, and it appears that Earl is calling the shots.

Thanks to Mookie's snooping (and, subsequently, being voted off for it), everybody knows that Yau-Man has one of the immunity idols. This could put him in a vulnerable spot because the longer he's allowed to hold onto it, the safer he becomes. This won't sit well with the others, especially considering how likable Yau-Man is and how hard it would be to defeat him at the final vote. I can tell you that at least one more idol gets played at Tribal Council, and it will have an impact. Plus, there is still another hidden idol somewhere at camp and its discovery could dramatically change the power structure.

Cassandra is in a good position because of her relationships with Earl and Dreamz, which could make her a swing vote if alliances shift. Relationships are the only thing that have kept her in this game, since she hasn't performed well at challenges or contributed much around camp.

Stacy is also in a good position, because, for whatever reason, she is one of the least liked, and everybody believes they could beat her in a final vote. The truth hurts, but it's a brutal game.

Alex and Boo are both on the outside. Alex is in trouble as the last of the "four horsemen." As smart as he is, it will take a miracle for him to worm his way back in. He will need to exploit a weak link in the existing alliance or win immunity to keep himself in the game. I thought Boo would be one of the likable heroes this season but once again I was wrong. He has managed to stay in the game longer than expected, and now that could backfire as he's one of the strongest physical competitors left. It's always risky leaving a guy like him in because he could dominate the individual challenges and win his way to the end.

Dreamz is without a doubt the biggest wild card. Survivor has never seen someone play this game this way. Dreamz is playing both sides with reckless abandon. He cannot be trusted and yet people keep telling him everything. Like him or not you have to give him credit for creating complete instability, and he seems to be benefiting from it greatly. At this point, even I am unclear if Dreamz just "doesn't get it" or is simply playing a very masterful game. That question will be answered in these last few days on the island.

Now to the controversy. It starts when we get down to the Final Six on Thursday and it involves the Car Reward Challenge - aka the "Car Curse Challenge." A complex and significant negotiation that involves every player left in the game takes place there. The ramifications of this negotiation will be felt up until the final votes are cast and revealed on Sunday.

More debate and controversy will come from the effects of this single challenge than anything else all season and it will go down as one of the most-talked-about events in the history of our game. In the end it will amount to a decision that could be worth $1 million. At the center of the decision is a simple question: In the game of Survivor, how important is your word?

Costacat
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The thing I hate is knowing what I know and how Yao-Man's offer backfires because he makes a deal with Dreamz who so obviously can't be trusted and has pretty much proved that all season except for the ONE TIME when they didn't tell hm what was going on to see if he could be trusted and well, you know... dang!

Pamy
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
and because they know Dreamz cant be trusted at this point I dont think I will feel that bad for Yau. Of course watching it go down could change my mind

Seattlemom
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Friday, May 04, 2007 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
It seems to me I read some where that Yau Man wins the car and gives it to Dreams in exchange for Him not voting him out and Dreams takes the car and votes out Yau man! I might be wrong But I'm sure I read this somewhere! If this did happen can someone ans this question! In an oral contract ** Example Dreams taking car for vote then doesnt follow thru does Dreams still get the car?**

Alaginger
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
"Episode #12: The Insider Clips"

Find out what the tribe had to say while casting the votes that eventually eliminated Alex:

Alex (votes Yau-Man): Nothing personal, Yau-Man. Just trying to stay in this thing as long as I can. Best of luck.

Boo (ALEX): It's just the way the ball bounces. Good Luck.

Stacy (Alex): This is the vote you should've got last week. Game Over!

Yau-Man (Alex): Good-Bye. It's finally time for you to go. We tried it once, it didn't work. Now, it will work. Thank you.

Earl (ALEX): You put up a good fight. I respect that.

Dreamz (Alex): Sorry Bro'.

Cassandra (Alexis): Alex, you played a really good game.

Alaginger
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More that was transcribed by a poster at another site that I found interesting...but not really a spoiler. This is about Boo as seen by Yau-Man.
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YAU-MAN ON BOO

Is Yau-Man really ready to get rid of Boo? Find out now.

"Well, this morning while everybody was waiting for I don't know what, they sat around, bored, and Boo was off to somewhere. Suddenly the topic turned to bashing Boo and Boo's irritating habit of non-stop talking and having stupid ideas and saying stupid things. Usually we put up with it and behind his back snicker about it, but I think Alex, at the end of his rope, his time on the island is very short because he knows he's a big target, being the losing consortium so to speak, so he has very little patience with Boo now."

(cut)

"Boo is one of the most talkative man I've ever met. He does not seem to like silence at all. Every second, every minute has to be filled with some conversation or at least himself talking. During the rafting trip Dreamz and I were just laying back, when we were not paddling, we were just taking in the view, the postcard view, just enjoying it. He just had to keep commenting, had to keep saying things, he couldn't shut up. I thought we were going to throw him off the raft. He just kept talking and talking. Sometimes if it was about how beautiful things were, we don't mind, but sometimes it was other nonsense. None of us wanted to ruin the trip, so we just shook our head, try to tune him out, try to enjoy it. He definitely just talks too much."

(cut)

"It just turned into bashing Boo with non-stop talking about the rafting trip. Dreamz and I said he almost spoiled the trip for us with his constant talking and making stupid comments. Everybody else realized that's the way he is. People are now at the stage where we have been with each other long enough, we're starting to vent, we're starting not to be polite. We'll see when we actually tell the guy in front of his face. 'Shut up! You talk too much!' (laughs) The other thing is Boo comes from a very strange background. He doesn't seem to have a lot of family ties. While Dreamz got 4 letters from home, and I got 3, very long, Boo got 1 very short letter, 2 sentences from his mom, which is very strange. Nobody else. He didn't even seem to want to read it again. We don't know what sort of relationship he has. In a way we sort of pity him, about where is his family. Is that all his family? He didn't seem to care that much. Of course everybody started to psychoanalyze him and say does he just want attention, is that why he talks so much, just blabs on and on. The other thing that irritates the women especially is his jokes are beyond @#%$-rated. He doesn't seem to realize some people don't appreciate it and he seems to not be sensitive to any of the social issues at all about appropriateness and politeness. It is becoming a problem. I think at some point we'll start telling him to his face and say, 'Shut up!' (laughs)"

Costacat
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Seattle, in THIS context, it's not a contract. Else there would've been lawsuits all over the place. This is reality TV... people make promises and renege on those promises all the time.

As far as analyzing Boo with his one letter, I think that's quite rude of Yao-Man. It's possible his family is unreachable, or they don't want to be part of a reality show, or don't want their names used on TV. There's a million reasons, and even speculating about why sorta bothers me.

Pamy
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
maybe the others werent mailed in time...remember season 1 Jenna??? that had to be one of the most heartbreaking moments, even JP seemed sad about it

Grooch
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
If Dreamz reneged on the deal, can't Yao man just renege on giving him the car?

Jimmer
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That thought definitely occurred to me. It seems that the agreement was broken.

Pamy
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
lalddadiidaoiofasf

and the car curse lives on times 2!!!!!! LOL

cuz I dont think either one wins LOL

Rehtse
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I think that regardless if it was said on the game or not, they did have a contract. If Dreamz voted against Yau, then he breached. Failure to perform would mean that Yau gets to keep the car.

Costacat
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, and good luck proving that in a court of law. I'm sure there are all sorts of documents signed basically stating that everyone is exempt from lawsuits.

I also think Yao-Man is a lot like me. I don't think of running to a court of law immediately after as a solution for anything. And I'm sure Yao-Man recognizes it's a game, it was a risk, and he lost.

Alaginger
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Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is very, very interesting........

Not only does Yau-Man win a vehicle and do some dealing with it, but he sends himself to Exile Island.

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Alaginger
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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Episode 13 Reward Challenge

Obstacle Course
The six remaining contestants are divided into two teams. (Orange team - Yau-Man, Stacy, and Boo --- Green team - Cassandra, Dre and Earl). The members of each team are tethered together by a rope as they progress thru the different stages of an obstacle course. They may be gathering colored objects.
Obstacles: balancing on see saws, net climb, net crawl? and digging. (not yet sure of order)

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The prize --- Ford truck. Notice there are only 3 of the hatchet-throwing boards in the background, so only the three on the winning team from the obstacle course gets to try for the truck.

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orange team
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green team
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another shot (as a reminder) of the hatchet board.

According to the spoilers Yau-Man wins this reward. He sends himself to Exile Island. He uses the truck to bargain with Dreamz?

Alaginger
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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Episode 13 Immunity Challenge:

Walking across water platforms.

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3 shots of Yau-Man falling during the challenge

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Earl tottering during the challenge

According to Survivor Fever Speculation:
Challenge Winner - Boo
Exile - Yau-Man (sent himself)
Boot - Stacy

The spoiler we have had in the past says that Stacy goes at this point by a bounce off of the hidden immunity idol that Yau-Man found. What we don't know is if the vote was between Stacy and Yau-Man, or between Stacy and somebody that Yau-Man gave the idol to.

Pamy
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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
it says the other II is found, do we know who finds it?

I am also curious why Yau thinks Dreamz vote is the only one he needs to bargain for

Alaginger
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Sunday, May 06, 2007 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
No hint yet as to who finds it, but Earl has 2 clues and said he was surely going hunting for it, and Yau-Man will have 3 clues when he gets back from Exile Island, and after the IC is over...so it's probably one of them.

That's a good question you have about Dreamz, and the only thing I can think of is that Earl and Cassandra want Dreamz in the Core Four....so maybe he is trying to buy his loyalty to help him get to the Final 4, and maybe even further than that to help him to the Final 3.

Alaginger
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Monday, May 07, 2007 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay ... let's see if I can explain this mess:

First off ... there is a new riddle from Survivor Phoenix, the site that has had almost all the answers this season.

Episode 13: The Yau-Man Show
This last episode showcased an exchange between Cassandra, Earl and Yau-Man, in which they reaffirmed their (temporary) commitment to each other amidst Yau-Man's increasing concerns over the tight bond between Cassandra, Dre, and to a lesser extent, Earl. The situation will dictate Yau-Man's actions during the penultimate episode of the season, from the deal over the car challenge he wins, the decision to send himself to Exile Island and the choice he makes once he retrieves the new clues for the hidden Idol.
The final act of Yau-Man's bravura performance will take place at Tribal Council. As we noted earlier, the idol found by Yau-Man will affect the vote at Tribal Council. Prior to the airing of Episode 5, the promos featured an oddly placed ochre-colored sequence, a clear Idol Showdown Foreshadowing. With Boo wearing the spikey braided necklace and Dre's supplication for help, the foreshadowing should be fulfilled.
As a footnote, and perhaps for comic relief in Episode 13, the last player anyone would suspect of covert ops will rise in an attempt to gain intelligence about fellow players.

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Next ... the poster who brought that information over to Survivor Blows, had this speculation from the clues:
Earl benefits from Yau sending himself to exile...probably finds the 3rd idol with the 2 clues.
Also Boo wins Immunity, Yau wins RC and Car but gives to Dre.


The same poster said the following about speculation from TDT:
TDT surmises Dre still pushes for Yau to go and He gets Boo and Stacy to vote for Yau, Yau pushes for Dre...but Earl and Cass want Dre with them, and they vote Stacy bc Boo is safe. Yau uses his idol to save himself... 3/2/1 vote and Stacy goes.
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Ginger (Hey, there's no color code left for me - LOL)
Reading other posters thoughts, and also my own thoughts give a couple of things to think about. 1. Who is the sneak at camp that we least suspect, and I would think Boo or Cassandra. If it is Boo, I doubt if he tells Yau what's going on, but Cassandra still feels a connection with Yau, and if Dreamz is trying to pull something, she might warn Yau to use his II.
2. Yau would love to vote Dreamz out (for reasons he has already discussed last week and will be even stronger this week), but I don't think Earl and Cassandra will help him to boot Dreamz, Boo is safe, and the bounce will go to Stacy. Hence possibly 3 votes for Yau (he uses his idol and therefore it does count for something), 2 votes for Stacy and she is a goner, and 1 vote for Dreamz. Or, Yau knows his vote is wasted by discussion with Cassandra and Earl, and votes for Stacy to go.
3. Also, it says something about somebody benefitting from Yau's Exile Island information, so possibly Yau shares the information with Earl and helps him find the hidden II, or Earl has already found it from the 2 clues....but the spoilers say that Earl has it. (Now then, I'm not going to be surprised if Yau is instrumental in Earl finding it).

Costacat
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Monday, May 07, 2007 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Y'know... I think Dreamz has no friends on the jury. It's possible that folks are starting to think about the end, and taking Dre with 'em to the finals would help to ensure a win. Of course, if there's a final three, that kinda negates that, but the survivors may not know if there's F2 or F3.