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The TVClubHouse: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XIV - Fiji: Show Night! (Transcription & Discussion): 05/13/07 SHOW SPOILER: Archive through May 13, 2007 users admin

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Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Is there a cash prize for 3rd?

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
or maybe 2nd place is determined by who had the least votes during the season in TC.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Everyone gets cash, it's just incremental based on how long they are there. The first place gets $1M, second (used to ) get $100K, and I think third got $75K.

I'm not surprised Earle swept the votes. He really did play the best game and stuck to his word all they way thru until he voted Yao-Man out. And he's right... Yao would've won had he not made that move then.

What irked me was that he seemed pissed that Dreamz didn't keep his word. First off, after all they've seen of him, did he really think Dreamz would be a man of his word? And second, if you know you aren't gonna win against him and now have to vote for him to leave, don't act all righteously made about your hand being forced.

Costacat
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The prize money, back when there were 16 survivors and two finalists, was:

Winner, $1,000,000
Runner-up, $100,000
3rd, $85,000
4th, $70,000
5th, $55,000
6th, $45,000
7th, $35,000
8th, $27,500
9th, $20,000
10th, $15,000
11th, $10,000
12th, $7,500
13th, $5,500
14th, $4,500
15th, $3,500
16th, $2,500

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
We see a clip of Earl writing "Earl Island" on Exile Island beach. Clips of Earl's game here.

[I'll keep spoiling to see if Jeff indicates second and third but I'm not going to cover the whole reunion show.]

Jeff notes that Earl never once had his name written down. Not bad for a guy who never won an immunity challenge and didn't know he would be on the show until two days before he was getting on the plane. They found him at the last minute. Earl says he remembers it clearly. Earl says it was on the job training. He'd never even seen the show before. Says he's heard about it and watched it the first season but he's a busy guy and doesn't watch a lot of TV. Says that he became a big fan!

Earl says he thinks they [he and Yau] formed their friendship from day 1. Jeff wants to know if they had an agreement to a certain point. Earl said they were going to go to the end but as the game goes along strategy changes. At the end he had told others and they agreed that at final five/four it was every man for himself.

Yau-Man says it was when the conditions were so tough and because Earl was a worker, etc. Earl says they'll be friends for life. Jeff asks if there was one key moment that helped him win this game. Earl says it was when he had to write down Yau's name because he was his biggest competitor. Jeff says for that to happen it had to go back to Dreamz not keeping his deal. Earl was thinking, when Dreamz went back on the deal, "Wow, I just won a million dollars." Jeff says he really knew and Earl says it was just the way you think and yes he knew.

Jeff wants to know how many votes Yau-Man would get if he had been in the final and he gets at least six but it looks like everyone would have voted for him. Jeff says it was a smart move on Earl's part. Jeff notes that Dreamz affected three people's lives with that decision. Dreamz jokes about how he's a good guy as Earl jokingly thanks him.

Bonbonlover
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Does anyone think Dre should try to give the car back to Yau?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

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TY Costacat!

Costacat
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'd imagine they'd combine 2nd and 3rd places, and split 'em between the two?

Winner, $1,000,000 Earle
Runner-up, $100,000 Cass/Dreamz
3rd, $85,000 Cass/Dreamz
4th, $70,000 Yao
5th, $55,000 Boo
6th, $45,000 Stacy
7th, $35,000 Alex
8th, $27,500 Mookie
9th, $20,000 Edgardo
and I can't remember the rest of the order...
10th, $15,000
11th, $10,000
12th, $7,500
13th, $5,500
14th, $4,500
15th, $3,500
16th, $2,500

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Raen, only let us know if anything "juicy" comes out, 'K?

And thanks for spoiling! I love you!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'd give that gas guzzler back. Have we ever figured out who pays the taxes on the truck?

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

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Will do! I'm definitely going to watch... it's just hard to keep up with the back and forth of these reunions. :-)

Costacat
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Jeff agreed to give the car to Dre, and Dre went to the school, then it's Dre's prize and he's the one who's gonna owe taxes. <BIG evil grin here!>

Tntitanfan
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I am still scratching my head by trying to figure out HOW Dreamz thought he had enough jury votes to sacrifice his "honor" for! We had the other three members of the Four Horsemen whom he had screwed over and Boo and then he sends Yauman to join them for five of a nine person jury? DUH!!

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

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Grinning With Costacat! But He will probably take the cash not the truck. But what goes around comes around!

Native_texan
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Base price for that truck on the low end is $24,000 and the high end (King Ranch) base is $41,000.

Raenstorm
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I don't think Dreamz was thinking about the jury at all.

Costacat
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So figure an average of $32.5K. He pays 1/3 taxes on that and takes home a bit over $20K. Not really a heckuva lot to sacrifice your honor for.

Costacat
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL Raen. Maybe Dreamz's years of being homeless and "living in the moment" affected his game play? Cause I never really saw him looking further than one move ahead.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Cassandra said basically Dreamz was "playing the game" / strategizing during the game. I doubt that.

Raenstorm
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Note, Jeff wanted to know whether Dreamz was flying by the seat of his pants or if he really had it all planned out. Dreamz beats around the bush here and Jeff notes that this is exactly what it was like for 38 days. Cassandra thinks he knew exactly what he was doing though.

Jeff asking if he meant to keep his word when he made the deal. Dreamz starts to answer and Jeff says it is a yes or no. Dreamz says he has to explain. He tried to get rid of him but he couldn't so he felt like he had to keep it.

Jeff notes that this is why he lasted so long because he just confused people. Jeff wants a clear answer. Whether he knew what he was doing or not. He says he never intended to keep the promise. (Note: That totally flies in the face of all those camera confessions so I don't know if I believe him.)

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I agree, Costa! I think Dreamz caught on quick to why people made decisions which was why he kept having to backtrack and change his moves. But he's still saying it was smart of him to break his deal. (I guess he might think that just because he did get more money that way.)

Costacat
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Sounds like he's still backtracking and trying to rationalize his moves, too! <wink>

Raenstorm
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07-16-2004

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
Haha, Yau-Man basically just said the same thing. That Dreamz is very smart but that he has no discipline so he doesn't know what to do with his ideas and thoughts.

Raenstorm
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Raenstorm a private message Print Post    
I concur Costa. He wants it to look like it was a strategy all along.

Colordeagua
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Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
It would be hard for me to believe it was strategy.