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The TVClubHouse: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XIV - Fiji: Show Night! (Transcription & Discussion): 2/22/07 SHOW SPOILER users admin

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Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I just didn't think Gary was hurt that bad. I felt like he wanted to quit but didn't want people(viewers) hating on him. I may be wrong but my gut instinct says he is faking to some degree.
Just my opinon

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Personally, I'd be very careful about labeling someone a faker. We're not there. We don't know how difficult it is to be there. He DID take two hard falls. And he IS in a foreign country. I think the combination of pain and fear are causing additional stress, and that amplifies his breathing problems. Truly, the only thing I worried about was if he did break a rib. I've been there and done that, and it is NOT pleasant!!! It is very painful, makes breathing very difficult, and is difficult to treat (sometime ask me about the stoopid brace I hadda wear).

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Even the EMT's didn't think anything serious was wrong. I shouldn't say he is a faker but I still think he was faking it.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Oh, I didn't say he was a faker. Don't get me wrong, it's not that I don't like him, I just got the vibe that he doesn't really want to be there anymore. Yes, I believe he was hurt, a little.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I'm with Denecee, well at first I was anyway.

When Gary first started complaining, I thought he was looking for an out...he was frightened and hurting...and was hoping he could be "relieved" of the responsibility of choosing to go.

But when I heard what his tribemates were saying about him, I began to change my mind. Like Costa said, I'm not there so my judgment on his feelings is filtered through the editing room, but his tribemates are there, experiencing what's happening...as its happening.

I noticed none of them thought he was faking and they were kind and caring in their comments about him. That changed how I viewed the whole thing.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I thought the EMT's gave him a thorough exam and said it appeared to be something that implied to me a pulled muscle. That is painful.

On the other hand, no one should be allowed to quit; not the person who quit before the game started nor anyone after the game starts. Those people are taking spots from people who are trying hard to get on and would be serious contenders.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, February 23, 2007 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
How strange! I felt a hint about Gary's "hurt", too. The EMT does not seemed to agree with his own "broken ribs" assessment. I have to assume they know what they're talking about. I was thinking pulled muscle as well. I had that a few times. It took me three, four weeks to get better. I remember only being able to reach out my arm a little bit and how difficult it was to fall asleep in the beginning. Only able to lay on the other side and suffered through every move, I woke my self up constantly those days.

The part that cause me to go "Hm-mm", is the whispers of his tribe mates. I don't think they were that kind. I thought they were very worried about being hindered by a sick/weak one. They related that through video confessions, I'm sure Gary knows what's on their mind. I do think that Gary played his "hurt" up a bit just in case they ended up in the TC hut! (I bet Gary was so happy the IC was an eating comp.. He must have jumped on that chance so that he may set out for the next challenge, until he makes a decision one way or the other.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I really don't like this "have nots" bit at all. How are they ever going to get themselves in shape to win. They might as well just kick them all off now (even tho' it's over, but I digress! lol)

I was worried Gary might be having heart problems. He's not really in great shape compared to the others and put out a lot of effort in conditions I'm sure he's not used to. As far as it being a muscle strain - well, I can tell you I pulled some cartilage that attaches the ribs to your sternum and I thought I was having a heart attack and I was only 24! The more it hurt when I breathed (and the pain was going down my arm), the more scared I got! The only way it was diagnosed was that it hurt more when my arm was moved. It's called costal-condritis and let me tell you, it took a long time to heal and in later years, if I had a bad coughing spell, it would pull out all over again. I also thought at first Gary's tribe wanted him to leave so he wouldn't bring them down. Their futher comments about his health being more important and the tears, changed my mind. Since often musculo-skeletal injuries take so much time to heal and can be re-injured so easily, I can see Gary not being long for this game.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Broken and/or cracked ribs can really only be diagnosed with x-rays. And a cracked rib can be just as painful as a broken one. Musculoskeletal injuries are the hardest to diagnose and can take the longest to heal (you can't "set" a musculoskeletal injury). Although Gary is living in comparative luxury, I can't imagine that conditions are conducive to full rest and recuperation. I mean, he really doesn't even have much of a bed; there's no ice or heat to apply; and all they gave him was a generic analgesic (aspirin? tylenol?).

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
QUESTION: Were they EMTs or doctors?

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
I'm seriously disappointed with this season. I thought that they would be switching camps depending on who won the challenge (reward or immunity).

Now obviously the issue hasn't even come up because Ravu hasn't won yet, but I'm really beginning to doubt that they will ever be switching camps.

I feel so confused because at the end of last season I totally got a different impression. I know that JP said there would be a luxury camp and a poor camp. Maybe I just assumed they would be switching based on challenge wins?

When I had re-watched all of the episodes so far, I paid CLOSE ATTENTION to the rewards or outcome of winning them. When the immunity and reward were joined together Jeff would say "The winner gets the fishing gear and immunity idol." He NEVER stated "and the winner gets to go back to the luxury camp" Same thing now that the challenges are separate. He HAS NOT said that the winner gets to go to the luxury camp. So my impression is that the producers have no intention of switching the teams based on challenge winning. (which I think would be AWESOME)

Maybe they will switch up the teams in a "surprising twist" format.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I think when the EMT's said nothing serious was wrong, I think they meant that it wasn't life-threatening or in need of immediate hospitalisation.

A broken leg would be "serious," a bruised rib or spasms, no matter how painful, wouldn't be "serious."

I don't know why they have someone of his age and out of condition.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I wonder that same thing, Puzzled. I am assuming he had to pass a thorough physical before he could participate. I still have to wonder what Gary and Survivor casting were thinking.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 12:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Because folks of all ages and sizes have their strengths..and wisdom to offer.. Every one should have a chance..

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Look at how far Rudy got in the very first season. Now I know that he was one tough guy but there is no denying that he was older. They put people on quite a few seasons with varying levels of physical ability.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I'm ready for the "have nots" to get a break. I never like to see a season start so one-sided.

I hope Survivor has some good twist up their sleeve or this will get really boring for us watchers.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Part of the reason I thought Gary wasn't hurt too bad is because at the eating competition, he seemed completely normal and if I wouldn't have seen the earlier clips, I wouldn't have thought he was hurt at all. Like somebody up thread said, there are people who would have loved to taken his place. And I don't think it's fair that they get medicine and still get to stay.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I don't think a person's physical aspect is the determining factor for the older players. I believe its all in the attitude.

You can be out of shape, older and less coordinated, etc., but if you have the right frame of mind, you can play this game and get through the physically demanding aspects. Rudy, Tom, Tina, etc. have all had to face similar challenges to what Gary is facing now.

Gary doesn't have the mind set to play this game... mentally he's already given up and his body is only reinforcing that attitude.