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Tmagicsaq
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03-26-2004

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tmagicsaq a private message Print Post    
all the times i have been rafting (8) the guide has always worn a helmet. If in a 6 man raft, if the water is very rough (in some areas) they double up on the guides. With the survivers being tired and no food, i would think it would be hard for any of them to paddle. I know it takes a lot out of you and on some rapids if you do not paddle hard in a certain direction then it can be dangerous. I have only been rafting in Canada, but knowing how the river can be here, i would guess it could be just as rough or worse there.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
LOL.. I guess I went a long time ago, but no one wore helmets then and we had some high level rapids, made higher because they released more than the normal amount of water that weekend. It was a blast. And yeah we had to do some really fast moving at times to keep from capsizing and paddle like crazy and get totally drenched.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Well ... the spoiling is pretty skimpy for this week. Since it is already Tuesday, I'll recap what is being thought.

Reward Challenge: "Hungry For Love" involves biting into hanging chunks of cooked meat with your hands behind your back and placing the meat on a plate --- individually --- but it appears 3 go on the reward. Whether the top 3 winners, or the winner picks 2...don't know. Who wins ... don't know. Probably Alex or Boo.

Exiled: Earl (from the picture in the promos)

IC: Elimination race with puzzle-solving at the end? Since Boo is sitting out in the first picture, it has been determined to be an elimination race, plus there are only 3 stands in the water for the final lap of the challenge. Who wins....the speculators are speculating that Yau-Man wins since he is suppose to be on this winning streak.

Who gets the boot: Either Alex or Stacy. The spoiler is that at some point Yau-Man's idol is used and it causes Stacy to go instead. If could be either this week or next week, and it could be either Yau-Man using the idol or he gives it to somebody in his alliance to use. As you can see the choices and situations are numerous here.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Well!!! This is a fine howdy-doo!!!

The gal with all the good spoiling this season, that is dishing it out in riddles has just posted another one.

"The Twists Aren't Over"

However, this time she hasn't given any explanations, or further embellishment...other than those 4 words.

Hmmmmm....wonder what they mean?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
hmmmm anyone over there try to figure out what it means?

maybe the twist is under??? lol i suck at these

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    

quote:

LOL.. I guess I went a long time ago, but no one wore helmets




Yah and I bet that back then you didn't wear seat belts in your car either

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Au contraire! My dad worked for Ford and we started using seatbelts fairly regularly beck in the fifties. And I have used my seabelts 100% of the time since the night my 29 year old brother in law rolled his car and died only because he wasn't wearing his belt and went through the side window putting a hole in the side of his head. His glasses didn't break, watch didn't break, almost nothing else wrong with him :-(

The River Rafting was very early 80's. I'm quite sure, had helmets been part of the gear provided, I'd have worn them.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I've rafted the Ocoee - used in the Atlanta Olympics - several times without a helmet.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
And I am hoping that none of you guys will be coming in here to say that I have a sufficiently hard head not to need one!

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Oh Sea...I was half kidding...sorry to hear of about your BIL :-(

I honestly didn't even think there were seatbelts when I grew up in the 60's...

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
We had seat belts in our car in the '60's, but they had to be special ordered and put in. A lot of people thought we were nuts.

I saw two women die because they were thrown out of their car. They were going slowly through an intersection, got hit by someone running the light, and died in the street. Pretty gruesome.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 2:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
We had belts early because my dad used his great employee discount to get a new car yearly. They has shown them the tests done that showed that seatbelts really did save many lives, so of course he went for them.

Oh and I'm watching Dog the Bounty Hunter on my DVR and just saw an ad for river rafting in Colorado and not a helmet in the picture.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I'm just going to post a link for you guys:

This is from Survivor Blows and it is called the "State of The Spoiling". It's just too much information for me to try to bring over, and if I cut and paste, I lose the picture references. Just remember that this is one person's speculation of what all the clues mean.
http://community.realitytvworld.com/boards/DCForumID2/6736.shtml

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
back to the clue that says the twists aren't over - isn't the IC called twister? maybe it has something to do with that. <shrug>

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
From Ginger's link:

quote:

• Desperate for information, one Survivor uses sneaky tactics to eavesdrop on a confidential conversation.

There isn't a whole lot of discussion in this thread, but the consensus is that Alex is the eavesdropper.

ETA: I think the sneaky player eavesdropping might be Yau Man. He senses that something is up when he is left alone even by his alliance mates, so he eavesdrops to see if his fears are confirmed.


Isn't this Alex? Wasn't he shown in the previews pretending to be asleep but listening in?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
From that same link..


quote:

We know that the reward is going to be a helicopter ride to a spot where they go white water rafting. From this vidcap it appears that Yau Man is one of the winners as Emydi points out you can see his green shirt in the front:




So maybe Yau Man wins reward??

And also


quote:

According to Emydi it looks like Dre behind Yau and possibly Cassandra or Boo ducking on his left. I personally don't think it is Boo but it could very well be Cassandra




and interesting.. about immunity


quote:

So who wins immunity? From SeeBS misdirection we know that it isn't Alex. Also from that same 30 second video clip we learn that Yau Man the "fan favorite" is being targeted. So in order for him to be targeted, that means he doesn't win regular immunity. And according to VG we know that there is a physically strong man who challenges Yau. I think based on everything we see that Dreamz will win the immunity.




And Boot


quote:

The Boot

So who will be booted? Again, the consensus on the board this week and in the vote thread is that Alex is going to go home despite all of his fight and the other stuff is misdirection. I'd like to propose a different scenario.

We know from VG that the Full of portent clue circles around Yau Man, Dreamz, and Stacy. We also know that in survivor history the time to make your move is at off numbered TC's. There was an awful lot of talk at the last TC about how when it gets down to 6 with Alex and Mookie gone, that the two groups were going to have to figure out who to turn on.

I think Alex is too valuable to let go this week, one group or the other needs him and needs his swing vote. The reveal of Yau Man's hidden immunity idol was also focused on. We hear in that 30 second promo that Earl is talking to Cassandra and says vote Yau this week?, we also see Yau sitting by himself at camp and he says I always worry when I am left all alone or something to that effect.

I think that everyone turns on Yau this week and tries to vote him off 6-1 or 5-2, afterall he has won his share of immunities, but that Yau Man astutely plays his idol and it bounces to the sole vote that he delivered: Stacy

We know that Yau has never liked Stacy and possibly Dreamz votes with him to bounce her off, and with Dreamz having individual immunity, this in my opinion would satisfy the full of portent clue. It also fits that the hidden idol when played does make a difference and has an impact on the rest of the game.




And then about next week:


quote:

In addition, from the TV Guide article that is found in post 14 we learn from Jeff Probst that:

Now to the controversy. It starts when we get down to the Final Six on Thursday and it involves the Car Reward Challenge - aka the "Car Curse Challenge." A complex and significant negotiation that involves every player left in the game takes place there. The ramifications of this negotiation will be felt up until the final votes are cast and revealed on Sunday.

So if Yau Man isn't forced to use his idol this week, I don't see what he would be making a deal with Dreamz for. Yau needs to feel as though he is vulnerable.




Very interesting, Ginger! You rock as usual!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
And thanks, Seamonkey.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I have a stupid question. How do y'all do that quote thingy?



Whoami
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08-03-2001

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Not stupid Lexie!

type this (but without the spaces):

\ quote { Your text here }

It will come out:


quote:

Your text here




Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    

quote:

Thanks Whoami!!!




Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Thanks ginger for all the hard work you do. I know you look because you wanna know, but you are very generous to share it with all of us here.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    

quote:

You're welcome Lexie!






Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I'm sure glad you guys did this today because we had a major problem down at the nearest commercial intersection to my house today and we without power, then finally got power back but cable was off.......so no T.V. or computer. I went to a friend's house tonight to watch the show, and on coming back....we now have cable again. So, I would not have been much use to you today.

Also......show was very good. Quite a few surprises, and a definite twist at the IC.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
i watched the show, what was the twist at the immunity challenge?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Whew! Ginger, I am so relieved that the spoilers were not on target for once - the speculations that it might NOT be Alex taking the hike tonight. Was sweating bullets even! Still have to wait another 45 minutes to watch, tho. Yippy Skippy! YauMan and Earl are safe for another episode & the bloodletting hasn't yet begun!

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, May 03, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I really thought Yauman might be a goner. I guess the only one who voted for him was Alex. Glad to see him leave, although I find Dreamz annoying.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Cnd --- I considered the twist at the immunity challenge to be that the winner of the Reward Challenge got a definite advantage of automatically getting to go to the 2nd round and not having to be so thoroughly exhausted from doing the first round. To me, that was new and different, and definite advantage for Boo, and I would call it a twist. Since the spoiler this week from the website that seems to have all the answers said. "The Twists Aren't Over" and the name of the challenge was "Twister", that was the only thing I could see that I would call a twist.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
gotcha. i attributed the twist to the RC. but, i see where you are coming from. thanks! i thought i had missed something.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, May 04, 2007 - 5:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I was glad to see that I guessed right - in my head - that Alex was the originator of the title! The only other concealed "dagger carrier" I could think of was Dreamz, and this seemed a litte erudite for him!

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Saturday, May 05, 2007 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
It was interesting that at the Reward Challenge, the top three were chosen. That way the top winner didn't have to choose the other three, perhaps alienating the others.