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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Just setting up in advance.. I'll add in the name when someone post it.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
LOL Sea according to SS:
03/01 Survivor: Fiji - "Let's Just Call Jeff On The Jeff Phone."

(title from CBS) then another poster asks the obvious "seriously?" and reply is:
Yep, and they posted a cap from CBS and then the exchange Maybe this involves Gary wanting to quit, and someone at Moto jokes about what to do? "

with more speculation "It could be anyone on Moto, and to be honest- it doesn't really matter who said it.

Alex and Earl had the first two episode quotes... who cares though, honestly? It's just like the best narration for the episode. "

Alaginger
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Friday, February 23, 2007 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hey Sea - Posting from my sister's house in Alabama
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Title:
Let's Just Call Jeff On The Jeff Phone
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CBS Misdirection:
Next time on SURVIVOR: FIJI
· Frustrated over losing a challenge, one Survivor explodes in anger, berating other tribemates and throwing rocks around camp.

· One Survivor's deteriorating health becomes a major problem, causing the medical team to arrive. Can this Survivor recover and continue in the game or will their tribe be forced to continue on without them?

· A surprise twist is revealed at the Immunity Challenge, forcing the winning team to make a tough decision that could change the course of the entire game.

· One Survivor becomes suspicious of another's strategy when they're caught flirting with members of the opposite sex.
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Based on past spoiling - the surprise twist is probably that the tribe at the "Have" camp has to switch camps with the "Have Nots" or lose a member....and this is probably why Gary just goes ahead and quits!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Wait a second, Is there any spoiling info in this thread? (Trying to avert my eyes at the same time...)

Seems like I'm getting to know more than I need to know?

No offense. I just have more fun not to know who'd be voted off before IC and TC! It really hindered my enjoyment finding out about Sylvia's ending before the show even started. That was my own fault. I couldn't wait and ventured into Ginger's thread. Now I try to stay away if I see your name. I don't want any info a la Ginger :-)until I see the show.

Thanks!

Aussiedeb
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Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aussiedeb a private message Print Post    
Chy, this thread clearly states that it is a SPOILER thread in red. If you don't want to know in advance then I suggest not opening this thread up. Just some friendly advice. I love spoilers that is why I look in this thread.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks Aussie for explaining that. I try to start every one of my posts with a sentence or so that is non-spoiling so that anybody that sees it in the new-posts section aren't spoiled....but if they continue to read anything in the spoiling section, they definitely will get spoiled.

I just got back from my trip and know there are good pictures and information out there, so I'm going looking soon and will post....Stay Tuned!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Here's information about the Reward Challenge:

Episode 4 Reward Challenge Speculation: "By the Numbers S14"
A rehash of Survivor: Vanuatu's Episode 2 Reward Challenge:
Challenge involves balance and teamwork. Castaways from each tribe stand on a narrow beam over water. One at a time, the Survivors have to move down the beam, squeezing past their fellow tribe members. If they fall off, they have to start over. Also, the castaway moving down the beam will not be allowed to touch more than one tribe member at a time. The first tribe to get all eight members to the finish platform wins a Reward
Entertainment Weekly Magazine:
Thursday 3/1
"The winning Tribe is given fish, spices, and a King Size bed "

TV Guide Magazine:
Thursday 3/1
"The team who wins tonight's reward challenge will be sleeping with a full stomach and in comfort (and we don't mean extra bamboo and palm leaves!) This could be just what the doctor ordered for one castaway whose deteriorating heath is a concern ."

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Michelle passing Yau-Man
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Alex passing Dre


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 24, 2007 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Information about the Immunity Challenge:

Episode 4 Immunity Challenge: "CrabPots"
There are at least two cages per tribe possibly one over land and one over water or even one per tribemember? Tribe members retrieve keys then cross small floating platforms to unlock teammates.

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Prior to the challenge, notice that Gary is already missing.
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Alex crossing over
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Dre crossing over
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Rita (wet) unlocking Mookie who also has a key around his neck.

Speculation is that since Rocky has a bag hanging from his shoulder in the picture above, that he has just walked back to join his tribe from Exile Island. If so, then Moto won the Reward Challenge. However: I see other bags on the ground, and maybe Rocky just didn't set his down...so don't put too much faith into that about Rocky yet.

Also, Gary is supposedly quit between the Reward Challenge and the Immunity Challenge as spoiled for quite awhile now, and evidenced by his missing from the top picture.

And lastly, this is the Episode where Moto is told they can switch tribal locations or lose a team member. They vote Lilliana off this episode, so that means they elected to stay at the "Have" camp. This sounds weird and throws me off, but I think I understand it .... The winning tribe has the option of changing camps or booting a member. If Ravu won, they would change camps and not boot anybody. If Moto wins, they would not change camps and would boot somebody. So.... that's the only way it makes sense to me that Moto wins the Immunity Challenge.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ah, thanks Ginger!
I got the show night spoiler and this kind of spoiler all mixed up.

I don't seem to know where to go around here this season......

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
No Problem Chy!!! The following is the voting at the last TC as taken from the Insider transcripts:
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Tribal Council:

Mookie (Votes Anthony): “It’s not your will. It’s your attitude.”

Earl (Sylvia): “We need Stronger Players. Sylvia…Sorry.”

Rocky (Anthony): “Things aren’t working out.” Rocky mumbles things about meeting after the game.

Anthony (He has a hard times, writes a name, puts down the pen, picks it up to put a dot on an i, puts it down again, picks it up to write in a "L", puts down the pen, folds the paper, unfolds it and finally shows: SyLvia): “You’re a nice person, just not what the tribe needs.”

Michelle (Sylvia): “I just have to know if you have the idol or not.”

Yau-Man (Sylvia): “Nothing Personal. You are the most dispensable.”

Sylvia (Anthony): “I really like you, sorry. You’re the next most vulnerable after me.”

Rita (Earl): “Because you are not going to be voted out today and because I couldn’t vote for who we had agreed on. I hope you’ll understand.”

Note: Notice that if Rita would have voted for Anthony, they would have had a tie. I'm wondering if it was Anthony or Sylvia that she had agreed to vote for....hmmmmm?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Fiji Episode 4
Promo VoiceOver

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

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Gary: I just can't...I can't function.

Jeff Probst: ... Gary breaks down.

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Cassandra: His head spinning is just getting worse. (Notice the bug bites on Gary's leg)

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Lisi: If he doesn't get better he's going to have to go.

Jeff Probst: Liliana makes a move on the guys.

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Edgardo: <laughs>
Liliana: <giving Edgardo a massage> Don't drool.

Jeff Probst: And Anthony takes a beating.

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Rocky: You get all sentimental and sensitive.

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Anthony: There's no way in hell I'm going to give it up.

Costacat
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Those bug bites on Gary's leg are really disgusting. It looks like he was being eaten alive (by ants?). Poor guy!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I think those might be sand flea bites...because of the beach and sand, but either way, they really do look painful.

Okay....let's talk about the exilee!!!

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Remember above I told you not to take too much faith in the speculation that Rocky might be the exilee based on this picture. The other speculation was that it was Yau-man since he is standing on the other side of the group.

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Here is a composite from Survivor Phoenix showing the Ravu tribe arriving at the IC with James (Rocky) Earl, Anthony, and Mookie in the picture. That leaves only Yau-Man or one of the two girls to have been exiled, and speculation is that it is Yau-Man.

That brings us to a discussion about the Hidden Idol. Sylvia got the 1st and 3rd shot at it and is gone now. Earl only has the first 2 clues. The person who is exiled this time will have all 3 clues again. Spoiling community says that there are only 3 clues .... so it is just a matter of finding the time to dig for the idol. Moto has never sent anybody to Exile Island, so I don't think they even know that the idol is back at camp, and I'm just wondering since it is underground at the mouth of the cave and their camp is right in front of the cave, if they have built right over it (LOL). Regardless, they don't know it is there.

Jeff Probst has said that the idol is found and used this time around, so I'm betting that Yau-Man is the Exilee, gets all 3 clues, finds the idol, and uses it somehow. If he uses it to save himself during a TC where he wasn't even in danger, it is wasted ... but this time around they have to use the idol after the voting but before the votes are read. It's a really neat, new twist.

Whrlwnd
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whrlwnd a private message Print Post    
Totally irrelevant observation, but it looks like James is wearing Rita's skimpy bathing suit top in the above photo, doesn't it? Why on earth???

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Yes, it does, Whrlwnd. Eeeeew! I wish he was going soon.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes....he is wearing Rita's top. I think it's suppose to be a joke because they have 5 men and only 2 women left, having booted 3 women in a row from Ravu. I can't think of anything else, and the other websites have made comment that he is wearing Rita's top, but so far, I haven't seen anybody speculate why he is wearing it.

Whrlwnd
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10-13-2006

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whrlwnd a private message Print Post    
I'm sure your right, Ginger.

So, w/ regards to the boot speculation this ep. It's confusing to me that a winning tribe would lose a player (2 players if 1 quits & they also have to vote one out) & the losing tribe suffers no consequence. I'm interested to see how it plays out.

If it is a matter of choosing betw luxury camp or losing a player, I have to say, I'd vote to change camps.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I thought this was well-written over at Survivor Phoenix:

"The Gary Saga

As previously noted, Gary will leave the game for medical reasons before the Episode 4 Tribal Council.

Gary will be present, albeit sitting it out, for the Reward Challenge. From what we have heard, he will leave between the RC and the IC. Moto shows up at the Immunity Challenge without Gary, but the challenge does take place.

It Doesn't Make Sense...

How does a winning tribe end up losing a tribe member? As we previously noted, the twist for this week's Immunity has the winning Moto tribe choosing to boot a player over switching camps. Probst has often championed the idea that the players should have to make some of the choices which determine their fate. This twist is inline with that line of thinking.

For those readers who are having trouble with the idea of a losing tribe not losing a member, Survivor has proven in the past that nothing in its folklore is sacred. Perhaps the simplest way to look at the twist is to say that it is not Immunity which is at stake. The winning tribe does not win Immunity per se, they win the right to choose one of two options: Immunity for the tribe or the camp."

Roxip
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm not a good spoiler, but I'm thinking they were all told to bring their bags to this competition (given that one of the choices is to change camps). Everybody has one (a bag).

The "haves" camp is almost worth one member, when their tribe is so far ahead in the first place.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
It is actually an excellent opportunity to get rid of someone without throwing a competition. AND keep the good camp as well.

Whrlwnd
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whrlwnd a private message Print Post    
Y'all are right. They'd have to sit out 2 people at the challenges anyway, wouldn't they? So, losing 2 players (I'm counting Gary, too) shouldn't really put them at a disadvantage... I hope!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, but those two players sitting out are "fresh" for the next challenge. The fact that they can sit people out can be a major advantage (remember last season how half of the one team sat out each time? of course, THEM it didn't help much!).

I think this "twist" will show just how loyal they are to their tribemates and how much they think the camp is benefiting them.

Costacat
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
And I'd just like to say, I'm getting tired of Moto's winning all the challenges anyways. I'd like to see Ravu win something. Barring that, I'd like to see them safe from a tribal council for a change. Maybe that'll help their 'tude a wee bit.

Allietex
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I have always said that losing a member if there is any way to prevent it is a mistake. You never know when the other tribe will go on a winning spree and you might need that extra member just for numbers sake.

And we have seen teams deliberately lose a comp just to send someone home. I think that is also a big mistake.


And whoever you send home is usually a friend of someone, someone who is going to be resentful and a little wary about being next. That can start a rift in the tribe as much as losing can.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Well, it looks like we already know everything that is going to happen in tonight's show. Just recapping:

Moto wins reward ... a pass your tribemate down the line over water ...
Yau-Man is Exiled
Gary quits Ravu between RC and IC
Moto wins immunity challenge ... a cage and key routine over water ...
Twist: Winner of IC can choose between changing camps or losing a member.
Boot: Lilliana - No change of camps

Roxibalboa
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxibalboa a private message Print Post    
Have been reading all these spoilers and wondering... if Moto kicks one tribe member to Ravu, and Ravu has to go to tribal, wouldn't they just automatically boot that ex-Moto-new-Ravu member?

Alaginger
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hey Roxi....Moto doesn't kick a tribe member to Ravu. They have the choice of trading their whole tribe to the "Have Not" camp and giving up their luxury camp to the Ravu's or booting one of their members. The elect to keep the good camp and boot Lilliana.

Costacat
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Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 4:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Isn't Gary on the Moto tribe? So Moto wins reward, loses Gary, wins immunity, loses Liliana. <yawn>

Well, maybe this time we'll get to see more of Moto so I can figure out who's who on this tribe (without having to go look at the pix)!

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, March 01, 2007 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I agree with needing to see more of Moto to get a better idea of who is who. Crap, if it's true that Moto decides that Lillian is dispensible we don't really even know why the choice.

All that sticks out to me with Moto is Boo being so clumsy.

Missy2
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Friday, March 02, 2007 - 5:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missy2 a private message Print Post    
dang - i don't know who those people are on Moto! wow - it's funny when they flash to them and it's like ......... who the heck is that??

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'having a hard time finding ANYONE to like on either tribe..

Juju2bigdog
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Friday, March 02, 2007 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I like Earl a lot. And Michelle. And Stacy.

Chiliwilli
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So far I only like Earl and maybe Alex. I haven't seen enough of Alex to really tell.