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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
arrival

Try Again..........Grrrrr!!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Some candid shots of the beginning of Fiji ....
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Reader234
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08-13-2000

Saturday, January 13, 2007 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
hee heeeee he, I know somebody who knows somebody!!

roflol

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
good heavens is that Yul's cousin!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 6:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
January 12, 2007:
"Jeff Probst: The overall theme is letting them make almost every decision in terms of how this game will play out in the initial setup. That was the big idea. It starts with 19 people because we had somebody quit the night before, which has never happened before, so that threw us for a bit of a loop because we didn't anticipate an odd number.
They're literally just put on a beach. They've got some fruit trees there, but that's it. I come over in a float plane and drop a box. And in that box they start to get the information. And the information is you're gonna need to build the most elaborate shelter Survivor has ever seen. Here's blue prints, a building plan, a map to find lumber and tools. You've got a sink and a kitchen area and a couch, all kinds of stuff to build this elaborate shelter. They're told they have to finish this before the game can continue.
They build this great shelter. They've got water and flint. Once they finish building it, I show up and say, 'Now you're gonna figure how to divide these tribes up.' They choose somebody to divide the tribes. That person divides them, and they square off in a challenge. The losers have to go to a new beach where they literally have a machete, pot and water they have to boil. No fire. They have a cave they can kind of get under, but it's miserable.

The game is about one tribe living a life of luxury, and the other tribe really scraping to get by while the other tribe has it so good it almost doesn't feel like Survivor to them. They have a couch. They have tables. The tribe that wins the first challenge goes back to this reward, which is all these luxury items. They're not necessarily better. They just make life better like hammocks and umbrellas and bottles and decanters and all this silverware and plates and china and a bush shower. So you see them eating. It looks like some sort of Ralph Lauren picnic.
The other tribes show up and they're dragging their butts because they haven't even had water. What was really interesting was how quickly you started to see the attitude change where the winning tribe started to have this sense of entitlement. It was fascinating to watch the rich tribe get lazy and entitled and the poor tribe get desperate and resentful.

Interviewer: Tell us about the person who quit. There wasn't an alternate?
Jeff Probst: We brought alternates in the past. We had an alternate in Cook Islands. Sundra was an alternate, and Sundra made it to the final four. But we only bring an alternate if we're worried about somebody. We weren't worried about anybody. We thought we had a solid group of people.
One woman, bless her heart, she just got overwhelmed and started panicking. We told her about how the show works and how you'll be a little isolated. It was just too much for her. Our psychologist talked to her. Our medical doctor talked to her. We went out and talked to her. There was just no way you could try to encourage her to stay on the show. She was not comfortable — not even close to comfortable. And the game hadn't started. So we said, 'All right. You're out.'
Interviewer: Oh my. When did this happen? During training?
Jeff Probst: It was the night before. We did give them a little course on what's going to go on out there. You know, what berries to pick and what snakes to watch out for. She was OK during that period. As a group, they can feel the game's about to begin. They're secluded. And they can sense a shift in energy. She could feel the game was about to begin. All the producers go out and explain the game. She just panicked. So we were stuck with 19. It required one shift. We were originally going to have two tribes of 10. We won't be able to do that now. So we came up with an alternate idea of what to do.
Interviewer: What happens?
Jeff Probst: It plays out in the first episode. It's nothing significant. Instead of having two equal teams, you have two tribes and one extra person. And what do you do with that other person? It played out just fine. The only drag is we lost a person, and it just affects your creativity a little bit. Where you maybe wanted to do a double Tribal Council and vote two people out, you can't because you just lost one. It has a little bit of trickle down, but when it happens before the show, it's very easy to move everything a little bit.
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Jeff Probst: I can say this group is one of the most real groups we've had. They fact that a lot of them are from California will not feel that way. This is one of the most real, dirty groups we've had.
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Interviewer: Tell us about the Hidden Immunity Idols. There's two this season, but how are they used?
Jeff Probst: I think we figured out how to do it this season. The very first time we introduced it, you had to play it before anybody voted. Then the second time we introduced it, you could play it after the votes had been made and read. So it was an absolute get-out-of-jail-free card.This season, I think we found the happy medium. You must play the Idol after the votes have been cast but before I read them. Before the votes, I say, "How confident are you? Do you want to take a chance? Or should you play your Idol?" That made a dramatic difference. The Idols get played. Nobody is sitting on their Idol until the end and taking it home as a souvenir."

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Great, so doese this mean that Mark Burnett came up with the same idea, and then gave it to both Survivor AND Donald Trump??? Oh well... sense of entitlement.. great... no water... wonderful...

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, January 14, 2007 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Thanks Ginger...that was an interesting read!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I don't think I like the "have"- "have not" tribe set-up. It seems like that loads the dice in favor of the comfortable, well-fed tribe. It may turn out that deprivation makes the other tribe scrappier, so I will reserve judgement for a bit -

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Thank you for posting that Ginger!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Ginger, thanks for posting that :-)

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
sorry for the double post...computer had a file locking error!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, January 19, 2007 - 7:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
A Little More Information Today:

Tribal Names: Moto (Green) and Ravu (Red/Orange)

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After spending 3 days building a great camp, the Survivors gather for a challenge and one person is selected to split the guys into 2 tribes. Here's a caption of the Moto tribe competing. The winning side gets to stay at the great camp, and the losers get to go to a cave area.

Tribal Membership (Best Guess from TrueDorkTimes based on Episode One VidCaps)

Red (Ravu)
Anthony
Earl
Erica
James
Jessica
Mookie
Rita
Yau-Man
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Green (Moto)
Alex
Boo
Edgardo
Dre
Gary
Stacy
Lisi
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Unknown
Cassandra
Liliana
Michelle
Sylvia

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I just reread my above post, and realized that under the picture I say that group is Moto, but they are Ravu. I have no idea what I did that???

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, January 20, 2007 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
well they both have 4 letters! lol

Thanks Ginger for keeping us excited for the next eps!!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay.......now this is a real spoiler report about Episode One. Always keep in mind that I can't vouch for the validity of the information, just bring it over.
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Per Jeff Probst, one tribe member will pick the tribes before the challenge.
That person will then be exiled, without participating in the challenge, then return to join the members of the losing tribe.

The spoilers report: "We have been told the exilee is a woman."

From vidcap evidence, as well as tips received, we believe that she will be one of the following:
Cassandra, Liliana or Sylvia.

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Good Morning Ginger.....

I always enjoy what you bring over here to share. It adds a big spark of interest and anticipation for the start of the new show!

Thanks so much.


Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Ooh! That is a good way to settle the problem of the odd number of tribe members. Except that the exilee is double screwed, has to go to Exile Island AND lives with the cruddy camp.

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
Being the first person to go to exile island may not be all that bad. Heck, send me back a couple of times until I find both immunity idols.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
but, glenn, aren't the immunity idols to be found at camp this year? one at each camp? so, how would you go about finding the second one? raid the other camp?

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
It just shows you how much out of the loop I am Cnd. I thought they kept them on exile island but I am not above some friendly raiding.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
that's o.k., glenn. you are correct in the fact that in past seasons it was kept on exile island. but, on this season it will be hidden at each camp.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, January 22, 2007 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Now Eggie, you have inside info when Ginger posts names!! *wink *wink, *tease *tease -

Hi Glenn

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Hi Reader.

Reader, in a sense, I guess I do have "inside" information when Ginger posts names. However, let me clarify that I'm currently not in touch with this person.

The last time I bumped into this person was about 3 years ago along Interstate 5. It was so freaky. I was driving up to my aunt's funeral service and I stopped for gas, a stretch break and a small bite to eat.

I went into some fastfood place and I heard a familiar voice. I turned around and said something like "Damn, I recognize THAT voice"! Then we hugged, sat and ate a small meal together and did some catching up, etc. Then we continued on our way along Interstate 5, me going north and this person going south.

As I've said earlier in posts, it's surreal for me to actually know someone who is on this show. I've read all the bios and viewed all the videos at the CBS site trying to analyze how this person will do against all the others.

I look forward to seeing how the game is played out and how far or not-so-far this person may go in the game.

Hi Glenn. And Glenn, I even thought the Immunity Idol was on Exile Island....and I actually thought I was in the loop...lol...DOH!


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Just remember guys....according to the new hype, it is the people who go to Exile Island that will be given the clues as to where around their camp the Secret Immunity Idol is hidden. So, in that sense, it is a good thing to be sent to Exile Island.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, January 22, 2007 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
{hugs} Egbok - I guess my post didnt come out correctly. I appreciate your position, and dont mean for you to imply anything at all - in fact I do think it is cool - even so much as I know someone who knows someone - or "You know you're addicted when..." but knowing you, I can just picture that meeting, and how friendly you are!! We do hold friends dear, and I appreciate you sharing that story -

and I'll try real hard not to tease you -