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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:37 pm
Y'know, I kinda feel sorry for Cassandra. Not a single vote! I think Dreamz should've known he'd burned all his bridges, but if you think about it, Cassandra DID play the game. Maybe not the game you or I would play, but she made it to the final 3. And not a single person recognized how she managed to outlast the ones on the jury.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:38 pm
And I really don't get Alex's bitterness towards her. It's really shallow, and I really lost a lot of respect for him because of it. That bitter pill really didn't help him any!
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:39 pm
Well I certainly can't. I can't imagine a reason he'd lie in the camera confessions and in those he admitted to figuring it out after he made the deal. The whole reason he was trying to get rid of Yau early was so he wouldn't have to go against the deal. I'd have more respect for him if he'd just admit that he was going to keep the deal but the fact that he would automatically have a shot at a million by not giving over the immunity to Yau changed the stakes.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:40 pm
Yeah. I don't have a lot of respect for Alex or Lisi for the way they acted during those jury questions. Both of them were inexplicably nasty to her and I don't get why. It definitely came off like they were bitter that someone they had originally marked for elimination managed to make it all the way to the end.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:43 pm
Ugh. Jeff recognizing Lisi and Rocky for the "good TV" they have given during this season. Sorry. It's just an example to me of how the producers think that's what we want to see and those were the two I couldn't wait to get voted out because of their nastiness and bullying.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:45 pm
Lisi was rotten to Cassandra from the very beginning, but the guys weren't too happy with her and Stacy's treatment of Cassandra and Dre. And Lisi and Rocky "good TV"? Oh barf. Seriously. I don't think nasty people should get any kind of attention. It's just gonna make more people pull the Johnny Fairplay rotten act. I much prefer Earle's gameplay over meanness for no reason.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:49 pm
He didn't actually say good TV. I put it in quotes to indicate my feeling of it. But basically he was talking about how each season you get one person who everyone talks about because of their behavior. But, yes, it drives me nuts that they actually reward their behavior with more attention during the reunion.
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:50 pm
Raenstorm: I agree with what you said but Especially with ---I'd have more respect for him if he'd just admit that he was going to keep the deal but the fact that he would automatically have a shot at a million by not giving over the immunity to Yau changed the stakes. Dreamz has no LIFE Clues in my book. I think the way he talked at the end of the show is what he really is! And I may be wrong but if i had a business I'd never hire him, I just dont respect his outlook on life! ( sorry is this is bad to say)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:54 pm
The only thing I'll give Dreamz credit for is... maybe when he made the deal with Yao-Man he (Dreamz) thought he didn't have a snowball's chance in you-know to win immunity. So that he'd never have to worry about actually making good on his deal? But if that were the case, I wish he'd 'fess up to it!
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:54 pm
Jeff talks to Gary about his troubles. Gary shows off a Survivor tattoo that he got. Mookie says the tribal councils were the worst. Jeff asks Stacy about the challenge where she took a lot of personal hits about people's opinions about her. She says she thinks she learned a lot about herself and got a lot of perspective from that challenge. Liliana gained 20 pounds (or there abouts) to come on the show in the first place. She says she had to lose weight after that. Jeff does quick questions with others. When they come back he's going to give a sneak peek of their next location.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:55 pm
Anyways, I'm outta here! Thanks to all you lovely spoilers, for helping to make this season enjoyable. And a very special thanks to Raenstorm. It just doesn't feel the same when you MIA, girl! You rock! Thanks again!
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Seattlemom
Member
05-10-2005
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:56 pm
Except Costacat Dreamz said in the last part after it was over he never intended to keep his word from the time he took the truck. At least Thats the way I heard it.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:56 pm
Seattlemom: I don't think it's so bad to say. I think it's true that it is how he is. I'd say he's just young and, as Boo said, immature. Plus, I think he lets his pride get in the way.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:57 pm
Bye Costa! Thanks 
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:57 pm
I think going into immunity challenges Dreamz always thought he could win. Not bright thinking....
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:58 pm
Sneak peek: China
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:59 pm
And I'm out... thanks everyone! I'll see those who are watching Pirates Adventure (or whatever it's being called) in a few weeks and those who are watching BB soon! ETA: Pirate Master!
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:00 pm
Immature -- and as Yau Man said, Dreamz needs education.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:03 pm
When Dreamz accepted the deal from Yau-Man, it wasn't until they were participating in the reward did it dawn on Dreamz exactly what that deal meant - that he was sealing his own fate. I believe from that moment on he had no intention of keeping the deal and that was why he was so intent of getting rid of Yau-Man beforehand. That way noone would be any the wiser.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:10 pm
I guess I agree, Nt. He figured out Yau Man had to go early so there'd be no question about giving him immunity if that's the way it turned out (which it did). But if he was smart enough to figure that out, could he realize if he reneged on giving Yau Man immunity that that would lose him votes (which it did). Was it certain that he would have been voted out of F4? Or could it have been Earl or Cassandra,
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:18 pm
watching first challenge...LOL at Cassandra, she should have just sat down and let others bump into each other
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:23 pm
Dreamz' ego never let him think that he wouldn't win. I think there is a good possibility that Dreamz could have won the game if he had not double-crossed Yau-Man. A lot of his play was dirty, but look at how far playing dirty got Rob.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:32 pm
there is no way that Dreamz could have won without betraying Yau-man because he'd have been on the jury. He knew as we all did, that the second he turned over that necklace he was gone.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:32 pm
I think Dreamz played very short-range strategy the whole game. Just not able to look too far into the future.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 9:20 pm
I still dont understand why Earl didnt vote out Cass, I thought he had deal with Yau for final4. I wish Dre would have said I will give it to you if you promise to vote for Cass. My heart went out to Dre, you could see the torment in his eyes about his choice, I dont fault him for it, I am more disappointed in Earl since he and yau had solid alliance the whole game
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