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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Next time on SURVIVOR: FIJI
· After both having endured Exile Island, two Survivors work together to find the Hidden Immunity Idol. Will this strategy pay off?

· Ravu fights for their choice of some desperately needed luxury items in a "winner takes all" Reward Challenge. Can they muster the strength to defeat Moto?

· One tribe begins to splinter as some members treat others with blatant disrespect.

· A mental challenge for Immunity confuses one Survivor, causing them to lose the challenge for their team.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Fiji Episode 5
Promo VoiceOver
Air Date: 3/8/07

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

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Lisi: Those two are two sour apples.

JP: Moto begins to fracture.

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Alex: We just gotta make sure those stupid girls don't get in the way.

JP: The hunt for the idol is on.

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Yau-Man: I got a chance to dig.
(Ginger Note: Spoiler - Yau-Man and Earl finally team up and find the idol together, but supposedly it is not until after the switch which takes place in Episode 6, and both are on the other tribe by then. More on that later if I find it.)

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(Ginger Note: the Reward Challenge for Episode 5 is wrestling one on one on a platform over the water. This is similar/same as was done in Survivor IV called Suma Wrestling, or something like that.)

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Rocky <to Dreamz>: Why don't me and you go up there right now?

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Dreamz: We could.

Rocky: Let's do that then. Keep running your mouth. Bring it.

JP: And the gloves come off.
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Over at TDT, early speculation is that Moto once again wins Reward. No guess of who gets exiled from Ravu. (My guess is either Earl or Yau-Man, since they team up later). Also, TDT speculates that Moto wins the IC also, the mental challenge) and from previous spoilers we know that this is the week that Rita gets the boot. (My guess is that she must be the one that gets confused and loses the challenge for the team???)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I cut and pasted this from a poster at Survivor Blows, who had cut and pasted it from Survivor Phoenix ... who seems to have a very good source for spoiling this season. It was so lengthy that I edited "out" the parts that have already happened.
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February 28, 2007

The quest for the hidden Immunity Idols on Survivor Fiji will soon intensify. The third and last clue was retrieved by Sylvia during Episode 3 and future visitors to Exile Island will have all the information they need to unearth the sleeping idols.

As a result of both tribes now having an even number of players (7) going into Episode 5, the power of the hidden Immunity Idols will soon start to make its mark.

Yau-Man was chosen to go to Exile Island in Episode 4. With clues in hand, Yau-Man will realize the need to ally with another player in order to unearth the idol. Yau-Man and Earl, the only other person to have visited Exile Island and still playing the game, will compare notes and successfully join forces to search for the idol. As we noted previously, they will not find the idol before the tribal switch in Episode 6, but will realize that the clues must have applied to both camps.
After the switch, Lisi is sent to Exile Island and comes back to new Ravu. She will share her clues with the remaining members of the disintegrating Latin Alliance. Ironically, she will not get to benefit from the spoils.

A recent post on TV Grapevine created a lot of buzz after it was reposted elsewhere as a spoiler. Some of the information contained in it was already known, either by official news releases or previously released spoilers, while other tidbits are in direct contradiction to information we have received. Still, we can confirm, based on what we have heard, that Alex, Edgardo and Mookie do work together to find the idol. At Final 9, when Alex finds out he is the target at Tribal Council, they will decide to play the idol to protect Alex. Dreamz moles out Alex's plans to the opposing alliance, their votes are switched to Edgardo, making him the casualty of intrigue.

The first idol is now out of the game, but since Alex was not the intended boot, it did not alter the vote result at Tribal Council. Still, from what we have been told, we should expect the great hype of "The Most Dramatic Tribal Council in Survivor History" for this episode, since it has all the elements of great TV drama.

The Earl/Yau-Man idol alliance will be successful in more ways than one. The second idol played will have an impact on the vote at Tribal Council.

The last idol gets played late in the game. It does not change the vote at Tribal Council. (Ginger Note: I have heard that there are either 3 idols, or 1 of the 2 idols gets reburied, or something similar...to create 3 hidden idol plays)
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Recap of Spoilers that have not been viewed yet:
Game Play:
# No water challenges, though some challenges built over water
# Merge: delayed after first two jurors are seated
Tribal Switch:
# Tribal Switch before merge (Ginger: Episode 6)
# new MOTO: Boo, Cassandra, Earl, Michelle, Stacy, Yau-Man
# new RAVU: Alex, Anthony, Dre, Edgardo, James, Mookie (Lisi joins new RAVU from Exile Island after TC ) (Ginger: Anthony leaves then)
Exile Island/Hidden Immunity Idols:
# At least three Immunity Idols are found
# Good only up to and through the F5
# Idols lie in restful location inside camps
# No idols found before switch, two found before merge and one after the merge
# One of the idols played changes the outcome
Pre-Jury:
# Ravu loses all Immunity challenges following the switch
# Remaining boots: Rita (E5) & Anthony (E6) (Ginger: next boot is James-Rocky for jury)
Jury:
# Jury is 9 and Final TC includes F3 players
# First two jurors: Rocky and Lisi
# F4: Yau-Man (F4 - late in game) and car curse lives on (winner of car does not win Survivor)
F3:
# Cassandra / Dre / Earl (F4 - late in game) and car curse lives on (winner of car does not win Survivor)

Controversial Decision / Car Challenge:
# Controversy which happens late in game affects final outcome
# Car challenge
# Controversy centers around the car curse
# Deal is struck in exchange for the truck
# When asked about Dre at Press Conference, Probst brought up the: "quintessential question of Survivor: where do ethics begin and end and where does the game begin and end?"
# Surprising winner has a big impact: Yau-Man
# The car curse lives on
(Ginger. If I am understanding this right, Yau-Man wins the car, gives it to Dreamz for his promise not to vote him off, and Dreamz does vote him off...so Yau-Man is F4 and has given the car away)

Reported weight loss:
# Boo: 30+ pounds (jessica has spoken)
# Michelle: 10-15 pounds
# Yau-Man: visibly thinner (newbie02)

Costacat
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Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
OK, call me evil, but can I snicker that Rocky (James) stays on Ravu, and continues to lose. I think his entire time, will he even have been part of any winning team? <snicker>

Thanks for the most excellent digging up of info, Ginger!

Roxip
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Friday, March 02, 2007 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I cosign what Costacat says...so do I get to be evil too?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
yada yada blah blah

I thought Ed finishes 5th..that has him out 9th

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, March 02, 2007 - 3:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
In my calculations, Lisi would be 9th!!!

Jessica, Erica, Sylvia, Gary, Lilliana
Rita, Anthony
Jury - Rocky, Lisi

Final 4: Yau-Man, Cassandra, Dre, and Earl (if the spoilers are right)

In-Between: Stacy, Michelle, Alex, Boo, Edguardo and Mookie......and I don't know what order they are suppose to be, just that Alex is picked by the opposition to go, Dre rats the info, and Edguardo gets caught in the crossfire.

Over at TDT they show Rocky as 1st Juror?, Lisi as 2nd Juror? and Edguardo as 3rd Juror?....but the question marks mean they aren't sure. If that's the facts, then Edguardo would be 10th to get the boot.

I'll go see if I can find further clarification after Rocky and Lisi. Everybody seems to be agreeing up to that point.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hey Pamy,

I can't find anything different than what I have in the previous post. I'm trying to analyze the Episode #6 switch and see if I can figure it out.

# Tribal Switch before merge (Episode 6)
# new MOTO: Boo, Cassandra, Earl, Michelle, Stacy, Yau-Man
# new RAVU: Alex, Anthony, Dre, Edgardo, James, Mookie (Lisi joins new RAVU from Exile Island after TC when Anthony is booted)

Episode 7: new RAVU loses and they boot Lisi.

Episode 8: Okay...I see they have to merge in order for Alex, Edguardo and Boo to find the Hidden Immunity Idol together, so they must merge at the beginning of Episode 8. If the players resort back to their previous tribes as alliances, you could figure it out that Alex and Edguardo would have a healthy number....but since Cassandra and Dre must feel they have a better chance joining with the old RAVU players, that must be how Cassandra and Dre, along with Earl wind up in the Final 3.

So...who is left from Old RAVU at this point to join with Dre and Cassandra? Earl, Yau-Man, Michelle, Mookie ... that's 4, plus Dre and Cassandra would make 6, a majority. So, somehow Dreamz gets the info that Alex knows he is the target, has the Hidden Immunity Idol, plays it at TC, and Dreamz has already ratted the plan and those 6 players have voted Edguardo out instead of Alex and the idol was wasted.

This makes sense to me, but I haven't seen it posted anywhere as spoiling. It's probably out there somewhere and I just haven't found it, but the pieces fit with the spoiling parts that we do know.

Sorry about your office pool. Looks like Edguardo leaves in Episode 9 (actually the 9th to get the boot, like you said), and counting Gary quitting, he will be the 10th to leave the island and the 3rd juror.

Aussiedeb
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07-05-2004

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aussiedeb a private message Print Post    
Thank you Alaginger for all the spoiling you do for us here . I love reading all the spoilers.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Thx Ginger!! YOU ROCK!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
this is the first year I have been in the pool, I told them we need to make it like the show, where you get money for any pick 1st out gets 5.00, 2nd out gets 6.00...top 4 make more etc, so we will do that next time

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
See my post above with just a dot in it? (LOL) I was having trouble getting the pictures the right size, and hubby booted me off the show (I mean, the computer).

Episode 5 Reward Challenge Speculation: "Kung Fu Cannibals"
A redux of Survivor: Palau's Sumo at Sea challenge. The tribes face off in a series of one-on-one sumo-style battles. The Survivors use padded duffle bags to knock their adversaries out of a ring and into the sea. The first tribe to set number of bouts wins Immunity. Per CBS teasers: Ravu fights for their choice of some desperately needed luxury items in a "winner takes all" Reward Challenge.

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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Episode 5 Immunity Challenge: Mental Challenge
Per CBS teasers: A mental challenge for Immunity confuses one Survivor, causing them to lose the challenge for their team.

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These pictures came from a magazine source that had them labelled as Reward Challenge, but in this picture the II is there, plus the CBS teaser says the IC is mental, so actually these pictures are suppose to be from the IC.
Also, I can't tell from this picture who was sent to Exile Island. Usually at the challenge, doesn't Jeff usually take the II back before bringing the Exilee back into play?
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The Motos (Who will win the challenge)
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Dreamz at the IC
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Alex at the IC

And, according to spoilers, Rita gets the boot.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, March 03, 2007 - 10:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This isn't spoiling, but I think you might want to know about what happened to Gary after he was evacuated from the game:

RealityNewsOnline: First of all, how are you feeling?

Gary: Right now I’m back to normal. I had a little bout with some bug bites and had a little reaction to them, and that was the major issue.

RNO: Take us through what happened in the challenge when it looked like you were injured.

Gary: The slip-n-slide was an interesting challenge. You had to get down there and get your ball and I took a couple falls sliding down. They were kind of humorous watching them afterwards. But we managed to get through ‘em.

RNO: You had trouble breathing, you were dizzy, and your blood pressure was up. What was the diagnosis when you were taken from camp?

Gary: They did some IVs and I’m sure it was one for the bug bites that helped get rid of the reaction to them. That caused the shortness of breath. I had thousands of them – I don’t know if I laid in the wrong spot or what. Normally bugs don’t bother me at all.

RNO: How long did you need to recuperate?

Gary: It was about two days before I really got back. I was still dizzy and I still have some of bites on me. To really get rid of the spiral in the head took maybe a week, week-and-a-half before I got clear in the head.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Over at Survivor Blows, the posters that I like to read because they analyze so well, have this pecking order after many tries and reading and rereading the spoiling clues. Based on everything they know, this is what they have as of this date.......

TC - Places - Contestant
TC1- 19 Jessica
TC2- 18 Erica
TC3- 17 Sylvia
---- 16 Gary Quits
TC4- 15 Lilliana
TC5- 14 Rita
TC6- 13 Anthony

JURY STARTS
TC7- 12 Rocky
TC8- 11 Lisi

MERGE
TC9- 10 Mookie
TC10- 9 Edgardo (Alex plays idol, Dre screws up plan)
TC11- 8 Stacy (Alex must win immunity?)
TC12- 7 Alex
TC13- 6 Boo
TC14- 5 Michelle
TC15- 4 Yau Man

Final 3 to face Jury= Dre, Cassandra, Earl

Speculation --- neither Dre nor Cassandra would get the votes over Earl.

Chiliwilli
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Monday, March 05, 2007 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
OMG! And, I can't believe they kept Dre all that time. UGH!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This is what was said at the TC when Liliana was voted out at the voting confessionals:
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Tribal Council:

Alex (Votes Liliana): Sorry Liliana. I vote for you. It's a democracy. I wish you the best. You're a wonderful person.

Stacy (Liliana): You're not part of our alliance. Sorry, I wish you the best.

Liliana (Cassandra): I'm really gonna miss you, you're such a great person. I really did see the strength in you. I hope that you have open arms waiting for you at home. I'll see you when I get back.

Edgardo (Liliana) : I know I promised you but I'm sorry, I can't do it.

Dre (Liliana): Sorry Liliana but the camp is full of snakes!

Lisi (Liliana): The alliance is 5, NOT 6.

Cassandra (Lisi) Lisi, I think you are speaking different languages and that you are intentionally dividing the group.

Boo (Lili): I hate to do this but the girls that I'm aligned with need you gone. Au Revoir...

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Moto's reason for picking Yau-Man to go to Exile Island.....

In an interview with Liliana, she said the Moto tribe picked Yau-Man to go to Exile Island because they viewed him as the food provider for the Ravu tribe ... like he was taking care of them. Of course, Moto doesn't know what's going on at Ravu, but they assumed Yau-Man was a provider and not in danger of being booted any time soon because of it.

Pamy
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Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Thx Ginger!

Kookliebird
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Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Shoot, I don't even have to watch the show anymore. I just come here and Ginger lets me know everthing that I ever wanted to know about Survivor !

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
(LOL) Kook!!!

The idea behind having a spoiling thread was basically for those that want to play the online Survivor games, especially as groups from TVCH, and don't know how to find some of the information that gets used in making questions for games. Even with all the spoiling that we find out, I still love to watch the show to (1) see it unfold, (2) to see the beautiful scenery, (3) to find out the parts that we didn't get spoiled and (4) especially to see if we were right or not. More than once, we have been wrong going into the game......and I die laughing every time. It's almost more fun when we are wrong.

Please don't let me ruin the show for you. And, I especially think it's fun when we have some discussions that go on in the thread that can't go on anywhere else because spoiling is involved.

Suz
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10-13-2005

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Suz a private message Print Post    
Alaginger is good at finding things, isn't she.
I love reading her spoiling. (My daughter says it's like reading the back of a book first. I do that too.) She says it ruins the book. LOL, sometimes it does but, I do it anyway.
Thanks Alaginger for all of your spoilers.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 5:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I love reading the information that Ginger provides. I check it every day at lunch! Once in awhile, I use the information at work to 'guess' who will be kicked off in the episode. People think I have such good insight. Of course, I never tell that Ginger is my inside source and making me look so smart.

I always have difficulty with Survivor until there are about 10 people left. Before that, I cannot keep track of them, so I tend to follow the spoilers more until I have better track of the people. Then, I always read Raenstorms recaps before it hits the west coast. I am an informed watcher. What did we ever do before the Internet?

.... I also read backs of books first too.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
My daughter and my girlfriend (who also watch Survivor each week) are amazed that I know so much spoiling. I've tried to explain to them that I'm not a spoiler in that I don't go to the site and spy, or have a mole in New York telling me who is on the Morning Show tomorrow or at the hotel checking in, nor do I have a contact at CBS or know at least one Survivor from each show that will spoil it for us. All I do is visit the known spoiler sites on the web, cut and paste or quote things I think are pertinent and caption some of the pictures to show the point and bring it to our thread here. Half the fun is finding the stuff, and the other half is deciphering what's worth bringing, and what's not.

My girlfriend doesn't want to know anything in advance, so I don't tell her...but I will say things like "Make sure you watch or tape this week cause there's a new exciting twist..." My daughter started out not wanting to know, but then she sits and starts pumping me for info (too funny!) and, of course, my two grandsons always want to know what GiGi knows so they can watch and see if I'm right, or say it just before it happens and amaze their Dad! (LOL)

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, March 07, 2007 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Hey, Thanks from Me too Ginger! You're the greatest!

It's kind of like you're playing detective, when I read your posts and you're meshing together details to see what works or not. I even have my sister lurking your spoilers (she's not up yet to joining/posting). We BOTH enjoy the fruits of your labors. And then the fun of seeing whether the details came together in the show. Thanks!!! Bisc