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Gonzilly
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07-09-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gonzilly a private message Print Post    
Earl can win against Cassandra, but he might not win against Yauman. Yauman is a game player and I think he would still respect Earl if he had to be voted out by him for that reason. If not, that is only one vote out of the 9.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Or, Earle may not be as loyal to Yau Man as Yau Man is to Earle.

I certainly don't see Earle slipping his II to Yau, even though Yau was the one who found it.

I don't see Yau going to Dreamz at F4 and conspiring with Dreamz and Cassandra to boot Earle.

I think either Earle or Yau Man would beat Dreamz or Cassandra at F3.

I think if Yau Man went to Dreamz with that proposition then Dreamz would be willing to vote for Earle to leave because that would honor the promise made for the car and still boot a popular and strong player. He could also have used that with the jury, that Yau broke his alliance with Earle. But I don't think Yau will do that. Most players in his position wouldn't necessarily have handed over that second idol to Earle.

I was posting on another list and saying I kind of wish the public could award something (car, whatever) to one of the non-top three.. that would be Yau Man for me.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Gonzilly. I agree that Yau Man would still respect Earle, but I think it would work the other way as well, if Yau banded with Dreamz and Cassandra to oust Earl at F4. I don't see either of them as grudge holders, unlike SOME on the jury.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Earl is the one that went digging for that idol, so Yau didn't just hand it over.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Well, by the same sort of circumstance, Earl "handed over" the first idol to Yau-Man. Earl and Yau both knew where to look after they shared clues. Earl lured the others away so Yau could search the first time. Yau let Earl go look the second time. Seems fair and honorable on both their parts.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
That's true, LT, he didn't do the actual digging, but he did exile himself and get that final clue and hand that over.

True, Juju.

I do think that the two of them respect each other and will still respect each other long after the show. Wish they could be the last standing, then it would be an interesting vote, too.

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 10:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I would like to see an Earl or Yau-Man win. (Unfortunately, don't think Yau will have a chance to make the finals though.) That leaves Earl for me. Cassandra..way too passive in the game to deserve a win. Dreamz...too much controversy to deserve a win at this point I think. So..I'll only be happy if it's Earl.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I, too, would love to see a forced tie between Yau-Man and Cassandra...but according to spoilers, Yau-Man is voted out.

I only remember Earl and Yau-Man having a gentleman's agreement to go to the F4 together. I don't ever remember them saying we will be F2 together. I would think that if Earl had made that commitment to Yau-Man, he would have honored it and help to force that tie. But, if they only have an F4 obligation to each other, they are there and the million dollars is within reach.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 6:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The last words by Survivor Phoenix, the spoiling site that seemed to be in the know all of this season. Enjoy the read.....

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Who Is Honorable?

"He may be small, but his impact is huge." CBS

For once, the pre-season hype over a player seems muted. Yau-Man, the most unlikely player to win the hearts of fans and cynics, has stolen the show with his bold strategy moves and his challenge prowess. As we stated earlier, Yau-Man ended up going toe-to-toe with another player (Boo) in winning challenges. It is only fitting that Boo's exit at F5 comes as a result of Yau-Man's win.

The way is now clear for the classic Survivor showdown over ethics between Yau-Man and Dre at F4.

What is your word worth?

As we had stated earlier, the controversial decision hinted at by Jeff Probst in his usual pre-season Press Conference centers around the deal made by Yau-Man and Dre over the car challenge. We received information in the past couple of days that indicated Survivor Skills spoiled the Yau-Man portion of this scenario prior to our own article.

Yau-Man could have won the F4 IC. The challenge involved balance and endurance, with players hanging on a slanted board. For added difficulty, the players were subjected to water torture as well. Yau-Man is out of the challenge when he slips while changing positions.

Dre goes back on his word at Tribal Council and does not pass the Immunity Necklace to Yau-Man. Given his propensity to act on instinct rather than strategy, it is likely his decision was influenced by the announcement before the Final IC of a Final 3 rather than a Final 2 end of the season. Yau-Man leaves the game with class, without going back on his side of the bargain, as also reported by Survivor Skills.

It is always fun to revisit the Episode 1 intro sequence to the season narrated by Jeff Probst. What stands out most of all is how prominent Yau-Man ended up being in that footage. He may not have won Survivor Fiji, but he was certainly the player who most affected the season and its outcome. With arguably the most compelling player being cut just before the Final TC once more, perhaps the producers will consider including the Final 4 in the Final TC next season.

The Final TC

Expect drama, with Dre trying to argue the "it's just a game" card.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
It will be interesting to see how Dre fans justify him breaking his word after his "I want my children to see/know I am an honorable man" speech. That was the time for him to play the "it is just a game" card!!

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Egbok a private message Print Post    
Ginger, thanks for posting that read...I thoroughly enjoyed it! Also, my many thanks for your tremendous spoiling once again. You really make the Survivor season that much more interesting to me.

As for Yau-Man, he added mind boggling moves to this season's game and I admire him greatly. It would be awesome to have him back for a future All-Stars Survivor if CBS ever goes that route once again. Long live Yau-Man!!


Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Hey, we voted to give Rupert a million. Let's vote to also give Yau-Man a million.

I betcha Yau-Man could get a bunch of television commercials after the show if he wants. He is just so damned cute.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
booooo, juju just said the 'r' word ... foul, I say!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I understand there is suppose to be another "All-Star" Survivor........so Yau-Man is probably a definite for an invite to it, I'm sure.

Eggie....thanks....my pleasure!!!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
if they do another one I would love to see Dreamz on it also. Love to see him play the game again. I really think he has a good heart and if he would have done this to someone ppl didnt like in the game (like a Johnny Fairplay type) I dont think ppl would feel the same way.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
But that's the point. He did this to a man who gave HIM a brand spanking new Ford Truck. He is the one who said he would honor his word. It does not matter if we like Yao or not. As previously stated, Dreamz is a hand to mouth guy. Really does not plan long term. Only goes for the best for him at the given moment.

Jandy
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07-08-2005

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
Do you think Dre will keep the truck..or more likely sell it?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Hard to say if Dre would hang onto the truck. But, even though it would be a "free" gift, once you add on the taxes and most states require Auto Insurance. Heftier insurance price because he's a young man with no insurance history, it's new, plus if it's 4-wheel drive perhaps heftier insurance rates yet. (Up here it would be, due the propensity for theft & ease to be parted out up on some logging road in the middle of nowhere.)

He might find it easier to sell the truck and find a cheaper model allowing for kid's carseat. But, I don't know. As much as Dre was salivating, I would bet he would keep it as his Survivor Trophy.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
As I said in another thread, I can't imagine how Dreamz though he could win with three members of the Four Horsemen that he had screwed and Boo and Yauman on the jury. The sacrifice of his "honor" was all for nothing -

Also as I have said earlier, I don't thing long-range planning has been a big part of his life -

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Does anyone agree with MHO that the others are giving Dreamz too much credit for strategy? I say this because he had plenty of time to think through whether or not he would betray Yau. Tntitanfan is right that Dreamz had to know that he stood ZERO chance with the jury... but had he kept his word, it would have been BIG and probably would have extended his 15 minutes (in a good way). Now he has neither the million dollars nor the publics good will.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Can't believe no one recapped the finale.
earl wins by a vote of 9-0. Thats a survior first. Congrats to him. He deserved the win and good for him on telling the truth. He knew he could not win against Yau-Man.
I still think Dreamz is not telling the truth. He took the car without thinking of the consequences down the line.}

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Sher, there is a whole thread for it

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
thanks, i'll clean my glasses.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I agree, Rissa.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Dreamz has to add the $60,000 car to his income for the year and pay taxes on his total income. If he made 90 or $100,000 on the show plus the car, plus his normal job he will be paying a hefty price to the IRS. Then as stated above he has the added feature of insurance. Once he went back on his promise he had no chance of winning the mill.

He never thought the entire process out.