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Jandy
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
they must have had to have Dreamz give his SS and sign the ownership papers at the time of award..so it's his, taxes due and all. did nobody win the 2nd place $?

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
2nd &3rd place prizes combined and divided between Dreamz & Cassandra.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 3:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
It would have been nice if the car company would have given Yauman another car...sort of to make up for the raw deal that he created with Dreamz.

Chieko, I agree with your post, too.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I don't think Dreamz was "plotting" the whole time -- I think when he found out it was F3, he THEN decided he'd have no chance if YM had the idol. Here's my question -- why didn't Dreamz work like heck to convince YM and Earl to vote out Cassandra? IF they'd do that, THEN he'd give YM the II (and save face AND gain some "integrity" votes, I bet).

Also, YM was not, in any way, forced to offer that deal in the first place. He took a huge gamble (which is one of the many reasons I loved watching him play!), and unfortunately, he lost. My dream would have been to have YM and Earl in F2 (get rid of F3), but I wasn't disappointed w/the ones who were there.

The thing that actually made me hit the pause on the TIVO and walk away for a bit were the rants by Alex and Lissi. Who in heck do they think they are? They LOST! It appeared they were trying to gain "Sue Hawk" notoriety, but it just came off as "sour grapes" (and I bet Gervase would agree! LOL). They had "power" to decide the winner, but it was obvious that even that little bit of power "corrupted absolutely." Bleh -- glad I don't have to see them again!

Ritfie
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05-09-2006

Tuesday, May 15, 2007 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ritfie a private message Print Post    
I saw on Survivor Live on the CBS Survivor Live segment with Cassandra and Dreamz that Deamz is intending to give the truck to charity.
And for what it's worth, Lisi has moved into second place on my personal "Survivor Least Liked List" right after Brian H. (JMO).

Ritfie
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05-09-2006

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 1:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ritfie a private message Print Post    
Oops! I hadn't read the show night thread to see that Dreamz' donation had been discussed. And I guess I wasn't paying total attention, because Maris said he was selling the truck and donating the money. Sorry for the misinformation.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 1:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm and then Dreamz can have a nice tax deduction for the truck. Hope he at least donates it in Yau Man's name.

Lateeda
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12-01-2006

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lateeda a private message Print Post    
I was hoping Jeff would ask about Yau making and hiding a fake idol! LOL But hen again, there are usually a kajillion questions I wish he'd ask, just never enough time.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
I can't believe you guys actually believe that Dreamz is going to give the truck or any money to charity. Seriously, when has he ever told the truth.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I can believe it .... because once he found out how much in taxes he was going to have to pay to keep the truck, it would have been another tune with him. IMO he had an advisor that told him what it was going to cost to keep the truck, and he then was told he could donate it or the proceeds of an auction or something for it to charity. This way it's a wash and will not cost him any taxes.

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
It wouldn't be a wash because once he won the truck and his name was on the title, the taxes became his responsibility, not the charity he would donate it to. He can claim the truck as a charitable deduction, but only up to a limit set by the IRS that is based on his adjusted gross income, which in the case of the truck, being a capital gain property, would be 30%.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I was also coming in to say that he would be hit with some heavy taxes, no matter what he did with the truck. You better believe that the government has worked it out so that they will ALWAYS get their share!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Wow --- that's a bummer!!!

So, he gets the truck and pays the hefty taxes on it out of his winnings as a tie for 2nd place, and then donates the truck for a tax write-off?

So........in the long run, he loses quite a bit, huh? Taxes are too difficult to understand.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
The only way Dreamz can benefit from wining the truck is to sell it for cash... pay the taxes...and keep what's left.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
When my dad retired he was told not to accept any settlement cheques from the company but to have the co. tear them up and re-issue them to his bank with his RRSP #'s referenced as recipient. That way he did not have to pay taxes until he cashed them out and then it would be at the much lower rate of whatever his income would be for that year as opposed to having one year with a massive income and much higher tax rates. I wonder if that would work in the USA? If Dreamz told the network to sign the truck directly to the charity and never actually had his name on the pink slip? If he rec'd advice, you would think they would cover the tax angles.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
I think Kep has the best scenario. Sell the truck for cash and pay off the taxes. He can then donate some or all of the remaining money to charity. I would be surprised if he is doing this on his own and any financial person helping him will know the correct way to handle it.

Also, he would have enough cash from his second place tie to pay the taxes on both the truck and second place cash if he wanted to keep the truck.


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I bet he rues the day he accepted the truck (LOL).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm a bit more evil... I *hope* he rues the day he accepted the truck AND went back on his word. Y'all know... that piper always has to get paid somehow!

And I do agree with Teach... I kinda think Dreamz was planning on honoring his end of the deal until he found out there'd be three in the finals. At that point, he HAD to ensure his place and the only way he could do that was to get rid of Yao-Man, and renege on his deal.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Interview with Yau-Man

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
what class....

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
Yau is such a sweetie! I think he's someone I'd like to meet.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Actually back when Eggie was saying that she knew someone who was going to be on the show, I thought it might be Yau Man who had installed some computer or other electronic stuff into her hospital!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ladytex! You come up with so many good interviews.

Best to play the audio of that one as well, since it isn't a completely accurate transcription.

YAY for Yau, driving hybrids. I'm proud that he works at Berkeley, too.. that's my alma mater.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I totally disagree. Survivor is a game but it's slogan is outwit, outplay, outlast, Not lie, cheat, steal, and betray.

Survivor is also a game of lying and betrayal of others to outwit and outplay them. Yauman is not such a saint, he went through someone else's bag as well, I just can't think of her name right this second. I do think Dreamz owed his family and himself more than he owed anyone, to do whatever he could to win. And just bc he told people his life history, doesn't mean he wanted sympathy, nor would have accepted it from people after the game, who knows, but towards the end, he said he did not say those things to gain sympathy. And Yauman was smart, he used Dreamz' past struggles to his advantage, or so he thought, but in the end he was outwitted and outplayed.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Stormie...yeah he SAID he didn't say them to get sympathy, but then why did he say in his opening statement to the jury that he told everyone his life story so they should know he needs the million more than anyone else?