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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:01 pm
I thought that, as a part of picking the teams and going to Exile Island that Sylvia would have immunity at her first TC? Or was she just immune at {the} first TC, which would be pretty lame to grant her immunity at a TC she wasn't even a part of!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:11 pm
Raen, thinking back, I'm almost positive you are right that there were two votes for Syl. But when I watched the votes during credits, I thought I saw Ant as the only vote. I made a point checking on Michelle's. I'm puzzled as to why she has this intense dislike for Syl.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:11 pm
Jul, only Immunity Challenge this time. Who, that's it. Whomever send to EI is "safe" just the TC they missed. No special treatment for Sylvia. I think it had to do with the one who dropped out before filming.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:13 pm
That's weird. I'll have to watch online tomorrow and see if it shows all of the votes or not.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:18 pm
My old eyes could very well be wrong. I was fighting DD not to switch to Gray's so soon at the same time. Perhaps other posters will settle this as they watch it later.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:20 pm
i saw jeff hold up 2 votes for sylvia. i didn't watch the credits. sylvia was safe at the tribal council she was not a part of and that was the only one.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:31 pm
Duh! Erica must have put down Sylvia's name then! I'm emberrased to say this, but puzzle solved.
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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 7:47 pm
Oh, haha, Chy... I knew that too! Erica was the one they showed during the actual show. And now I must return to Grey's. See everyone next week (or on Sunday for TAR).
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Egbok
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, February 15, 2007 - 8:09 pm
Good to see you Raen. Thanks to both Raen and Chy for the spoiler on tonight's show.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 8:42 am
Wow. No comments on last night's show after 7pm? No west coasters commenting?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:10 am
So far I'm blech. I have never been a fan of the watching Survivors starve and become dehydrated mindset and I especially don't like it this season. It is simply not fair to the team on the "have nots" side. There is no way they can compete with the "haves" - the lack of sustenance is just too dehabilitating. I hope things turn around soon or else it is going to be another pagonging! I haven't found anybody to root for yet. On the "haves" there are several people that I have found amusing (although Dreamz isn't one of them -- he really likes himself too much), but they are too complacent and arrogant about their situation. On the "have nots" -- well, most of them are just too whiny. I would tend to like Sylvia because at least she's trying, but she is a bit annoying. Right now the editing is focusing so much on the manufactured situation that I am not getting a feel for the personalities.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:14 am
I agree that the dehydration thing is no fun to watch. The losing team always got fire when they went to tribal council, not sure why they did away with that this year.
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:35 am
So, at this point going to Exile Island is a plus rather than a punishment. At least the exilee can create fire, thus boil water, thus drink water, etc. Not to mention they also are spared from eviction. Forgive me for living in the past, but I miss super-survivor Ozzy! I have no doubt he'd have made fire & found food way before now.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 10:50 am
I thought it was the guy (sorry, can remember name) who they showed as voting for Sylvia on the show last night, but I could be wrong. Has Sylvia not ever watched Survivor before. I couldn't believe it when she said that she wanted the group to decide on a leader when they got back from TC. Does she not realize that is the kiss of death?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 12:40 pm
Whrlwnd, I was thinking the same thing...where is Ozzy when you need him?
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 1:50 pm
OMG...I so hate the "haves" and "have nots" premise. Totally ridiculous and unfair. I just have to root for the "have nots"; they are such an underdog. What a stupid premise!!
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 2:18 pm
Count me too as disliking the whole "have" and "have not" theme as well. It's too predictable. I like the idea someone mentioned about them switching camps periodically. That would make it more fair and interesting.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 2:27 pm
I actually thought that they WOULD be switching. The winners of the challenge get to go back to the "haves" camp, the losers to the "have nots". Although, in coming eps, I'm not sure if that'll be the winners of the reward challenge or the winners of the immunity challenge. But I did get the impression that the one team had to fight to keep possession. At any rate, I truly do hate the haves vs have nots concept. And I really don't like watching one team suffer, as Ravu seems to be doing. I wonder what the producers would do if Ravu kept losing, therefore didn't have fire and couldn't boil water. Would they finally step in and give them flint? How long would they let 'em go without water? Or any nourishment besides fruit? (I guess there is protein in raw clams, though!)
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:01 pm
I have disliked the have-have not concept since it was announced! I am pretty sure the tribes DO NOT switch camps now, no matter who wins what! If they were switching, I might see some point in it, but this is such an unlevel playing field that I hate it!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:04 pm
Yeah, sure. Protein in clams, fluids and vitamins from fruits plus water when it rains. But even Cavemen had fire! Those poor people are living like animals. Count me in as another hater for this have/have not on both MB's shows!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:22 pm
I thought they would switch camps with each other. I understood that, the tribe who wins at the challenge was going to get #1 The better camp; #2 the reward(food, wine and/or luxury items; plus #3, Immunity for the whole tribe -- not having to go to TC. Wait, #4, The power to decide on whom to send to the EI. That's a lot of "Haves"....
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:27 pm
6 days without water??? isnt that dangerous? I agree on hating the have/not thing....they should at least give them fire
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:29 pm
I came to ask a question and I kept forgetting. Was there an alliance amongst Rocky, Erica and Jessica since day one? If so, then Rocky is the only one left of that already, haha. (I want to diss Rocky but I'm not sure with my facts.)
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 4:43 pm
Rocky, Erica and Jessica had an alliance. When their tribe decided to vote Jessica, both Erica and Rocky declared they would not write her name down and they didn't. During last night's show, they showed Rocky totally turn on Erica but they showed nothing for us to see if Erica also turned on Rocky. I think Rocky has pretty much dissed himself.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:16 pm
I personally wondered if Rocky (after making his rushed, initial alliance with Jessica/Erica) wasn't trying to 'distance' himself and recover from any prior associations? So Rocky was talking louder smack, perceiving Erica as a "threat", wanting to look like one of the team players now that his initial plans went awry (hoping that everyone might forget he was one of the outsiders not voting for Jessica last week). Plus, Erica was shown TRYING to work hard, in fact was the one who found the pineapples. I think they just figured that Sylvia is an easy target they can ship home shortly. But my Sister & I both think they will rue the day they sent home the stronger, hardworker who could pull more weight in physical comps. I was impressed with the one guy (was it Anthony?) who kept defending Erica and stuck to his guns. But, who knows, Erica may have had more outbursts than the one we saw at the challenge. All the moaning "it's just not fair" in Ep1 when they didn't get to go back to the Haves Camp, like Jeff was going to make amends to spare her feelings? The rest of the team was talking like they were trying to make the best of a bad situation, so someone doing the negatives has a way of dragging everyone down into depression state. Erica may have been driving them (coco)NUTS w/o out the limes already! 
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 10:06 pm
I don't think they'll let them go too much longer w/o fire. I seem to remember one season where they didn't give them flint until the third challenge -- and then both teams (winner and losers) got it, but winners got extra stuff too. I want to say it was the all-stars (seems to me Hatch was there), but I"m not positive on that.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, February 16, 2007 - 11:13 pm
That's right, Hatch was there. There were talks about how he could have made the fire but didn't want to. Talks about "smuggling" matches, too. But that's a subject needn't visit...... Thanks, CW. So Rocky's word is worth nothing then. Or at least, the most dangerous position for a Ravu is to be in an alliance with Rocky.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 2:35 am
Yep, Chy. That would be my opinion if I knew. I doubt anyone on his tribe really knows though.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 5:39 am
I like Anthony. He's starting to stand out from the others for being the voice of reason.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, February 17, 2007 - 7:05 pm
I don't like this "haves" and "have nots" either. It would be one thing if they had a challenge everyday and the losing team had a chance to get the camp with supplies back right away. This way, I can't see them winning at all since they'll be so dehydrated. I think it's ridiculous they've left them w/o drinking water for this long.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:17 am
I would not have minded a have and have not premise if it had not been quite so one sided. There is just too much luxury for survivor, and too much deprivation on the other side. I think Survivor is starting to push the envelope to the point where someone is going to get seriously injured or even die on one of these seasons.
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Vickie
Member
07-16-2004
| Monday, February 19, 2007 - 9:34 am
The have and have nots might not be the best sernario...but the person to quit comes from the haves. I don't know if it counts being from what it looks like a health issue...But there is an older male on the have nots team and he seems fine.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, February 19, 2007 - 6:33 pm
If you want to know what happens, go look in the spoiler threads.
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