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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't see anything shockingly wrong with Jonathan saying he wants an all Caucasian final four assuming that he is saying it because they were the people that were on his team when he started the game.

I agree that Brad got a raw deal this week. He stayed loyal to his team and got booted off as a result. Nate's actions toward Brad were very disappointing. On top of being unnecessarily mean, getting rid of Brad doesn't seem to be a good logical strategy.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Julie, it sounds racist...just like if I said
" I want an all white cheerleading squad" or 'all white' whatever.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
a better way to say what he said would have been ' I want our original tribe in the final 4' it basically means same thing but doesnt come across as racist

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Yes that would be more politically correct.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Pardon me for butting in here, but didn't they start out as being divided by race?

<--------retreats to her corner

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I don't think Brad even considered the possibility of moving. We never saw any confessionals that talked about it. He stayed complacent in his safeness.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Heck, when the game started, almost everyone here referred to each team by their race - the caucasian team, the black or African American team, the Asian team and the Hispanic/Latin (there was debate on this) team.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yeah, the "gimmick" of this season was the race division. I still don't see anything racist by calling the 4 caucasians "4 caucasians."

Sasman
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07-08-2003

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sasman a private message Print Post    
IMHO it is quite wrong to see anything 'racist' in J's comment. After all, they were divided by race.

I don't like this PC way of thinking. There was no racism implied at all in the way he said it.

This is way off base.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
It didn't bother me that Jonathan said he wanted the caucasions to be final four, it only bothered me to think that Jonathan, Adam, and Candace (who are caucasion) could actually be IN the final four LOL. I dislike the three of them, and do NOT want them anywhere near the final four. Parvati has kind of grown on me, I like her better than I did at first, so she can be the caucasion representative in the final four if necessary!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
The only 2 people I really care about at this point are Ozzy and Yul.

I thought it was funny at TC when one of them said that anyone who tries to lead gets cut up. Do they not see that Nate basically decides who's going.

Wait a minute. Wasn't it Nate that said that? Or Brad maybe?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It's fairly evident that the show was set-up to create controversy about race. If Jonathan had been on a multi-racial team to start the show and at this point had said that he would like to see a Caucasian final four, then one might think that there is some implied racism. However, he was originally with a Caucasian group and the fact that he wants them to stick together in the end is not necessarily different than any starting tribe wanting to stay together to the end.

Different topic - Ozzy and Yul are definitely my favorites at this point.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Looks like Ozzy & Yul are the favs, for me too!
I like the girls on their tribe too.
Other tribe, I like Nate & Adam & starting to like Parvati.

I think it is so funny that Candice wanted to get away from Jonathan and then he jumps too.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Was Candace really wanting to get away from Jonathan or was she just trying to put the bad light on him knowing that both of them were targets?

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
She evidently wants to be with Adam. Adam seems kind of like a big goofy guy. Not too cool. Probably nice, but not particularly hot.

Snee
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06-26-2001

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snee a private message Print Post    
i can't stand candice and adam. jonathon irks me too. not loving jenny.

love love love yul. didn't like ozzy (challenge-throwing) but he's growing on me all the time. i was yelling 'HELL YEAH!' when little aitu beat the big bad raro. muahahahaha!

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
So many of you have said so many of the things/thoughts I wanted to say. It sure was an interesting episode last night. Can't way for Thursday!

Rubberducky
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09-02-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rubberducky a private message Print Post    
My first thought was racism when Jonathon planned out the all white final four. It was sad to see the 4 members that were left. I was so happy that they won both I & R!!!!!! I was lol watching Jonathon trying to hit the targets. The only thing that would have made the night more perfect was if they had voted him off.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Why do so many here not like Jonathon? I have not seen him do anything "bad"?

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
We don't like Jonathan because he thinks he is a great manipulator and game player when he wouldn't make a pimple on a deal makers's butt.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I don't think he thinks he a great manipulator at all. He jumped ship, that is a desperate move, he obviously did not feel safe. Then at the new camp, he admitted he needed to kiss butt, not a sign of a manipulator.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
You may be right, but all that earlier manuvering just didn't sit right with me. Maybe it's the hat.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I haven't found anyone's play to be super irritating this season. Cao Boi knocking the birds nest down didn't endear him to me because it was kind of a dumb thing to do. As I mentioned earlier, I didn't like the way Nathan was playing Brad as I thought it was unnecessary, mean and bad game play. Other than that they've all been pretty harmless.

Jonathan doesn't bother me much either. He's trying hard to play the game but he's not being too successful (though he is still there and I guess that counts for something). LOL - I always liked Alan Alda so that may influence my feelings as well.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Friday, November 10, 2006 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I already didn't like Nate that much but after last night I don't like him at all. Brad did not deserve that treatment from him.

If any black, asian or hispanic had said they wanted FF to be all black, asian or hispanic no one would even be talking about this comment. It would just be considered racial pride and said about it. It's only 'wrong' to some of you because a white person said it.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 12:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Chilliwilli, I said in another thread that I wished the remaining whites would get picked off because of their mutiny, and I had two people take offense, and call me racist. Trust me, it's considered wrong if you say it about the whites around here too. Odd, considering the it's gimmick of the season, but we can't talk freely about it.