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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 6:02 am
CBS Promo for episode 9 - airing November 16th. One Survivor hopes that their efforts to provide for their tribe will protect them from elimination, despite being low on the totem pole. A festive prize is up for grabs at the Reward Challenge. Will one tribe’s bickering and inability to work together cost them the Reward or can they pull it together to win big? Emotions run high as one Survivor is betrayed by friends and unanimously sent to Exile island. One tribe worries that another member has mentally checked out of the game. Will their lack of enthusiasm put them on the chopping block? At the end of the Immunity Challenge the losers receive a message in a bottle that’s not to be opened until Tribal Council. How will that message change the course of the game?
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 6:22 am
Flowerpower, over at Survivor Blows, made these speculations from the above promo information. It sounds just like what I was thinking, so I brought it over for you..... ******************** Okay, I will give these a whirl: 1. Jonathan is the one who hopes that his work efforts will save him although he knows he's low on the Raro totem pole. He's trying to pull and "Ozzy"...just may work this time around... 2. We know that the festive prize for the RC is indeed the native party, where the Aitu's will get carried to a shack with a feast awaiting them. We know that the Aitu's win as we have the vidcap evidence! So the bickering and inability to work together must describe the inept Rarotongas! No surprise there! They can't pull it together and are LOSERS once again. Ginger insert of pictures:
Mitiaro's carrying winners to feast, and you can see Ozzy's shirt sleeves.
The chairs that the winners are carried in.
The Mitiaro's private swimming pool. 3. One survivor is betrayed by friends, HA! This must be Jonathan or Candice WHINING that their friends are betraying them, what a joke as we all know that the betrayers are Jonathan and Candice, and one of them will indeed be banished again to Exile Island ...I'm thinking it could be Candice again...or Jon? 4. I'm thinking that Nate is worried that Rebecca has mentally checked out of the game...she's exhausted. We all know what happens to one when Nate decides you're ready to go home...you go home. See ya Rebecca! 5. So the nefarious bottle will only be opened at TC by the losers. Well we know that Raro is going, and it will say that two people will be booted. But what if any instructions regarding the jury will it say. They will either sit on the jury, or they won't.... Ginger insert - pictures and more information:
The old picture we have of Jeffy with the bottle
The Raros responding to the information about the bottle (supposedly). I almost thought I saw this scene last week when Candice stepped out from Aitu and deserted for Raro, but most think this picture is a response to the bottle...and that's probably right. Speculation going on at other sites hints that with the Jury starting with Brad, there will be 10 jurors and an F2 .... or is there a new twist and there is going to be 9 jurors and an F3. There is a double boot this week, and Raro is favored to lose the IC, so the two girls (Rebecca and Jenny) seem to be at risk........or Rebecca and one other, maybe Jonathan. I'll be back when I see more........
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Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 9:26 am
Thanks, Alaginger. Interesting as usual.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 9:54 am
Alaginger.......regarding your speculations about one tribe member feeling betrayed by friends: is it possible that it is NATE that feels betrayed by Adam and Parvati? Perhaps those two realize the good situation they've got with their "original 4 Raro" and they align and vote to get non Orig-Raros out. Maybe they (O.R.) suggest to Nate that they get rid of one of the girls, and as a result, Nate feels betrayed, and one of the girls feels defeated, and loses hope.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 11:31 am
I don't think so Eeyore because the clue says "Emotions run high as one Survivor is betrayed by friends and unanimously sent to Exile island". It is definite that Aitu wins Reward this time, and they will pick somebody to go to Exile Island. I don't see them betraying Nate and sending him to Exile Island .... but I do see them betraying Candice and/or Jonathan and sending them to Exile Island........but, I don't agree with the wording of the clue "betrayed by friends" because since Candice and Jonathan jumped ship, I don't see how they can consider themselves friends with the people they deserted over at Aitu. Another possibility is that it is Jonathan that feels betrayed because Candice (who is a friend) is spilling the beans about him and she has definitely turned Adam against Jonathan. Jonathan will have to do a lot of back-pedaling at this point to win Adam back over into his court. Meanwhile, the Aitu's could vote unanimously to send Jonathan to Exile Island...and that possibility would fit the clues (betrayed by friend, sent unanimously). Over the week-end we get more pictures and more wording, so it might even pop up as to who it is that feels betrayed........so stay tune!!!
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 12:59 pm
great stuff Ginger!!! I agree with your spec
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 4:30 pm
I thought this was very interesting, but please just take it with a grain of salt. Somebody at Survivor Blows posted that over at TDT, they have revised their predicted booting order, and going backwards it is Late Jury: Becky Ozzy Sundra Yul Mid/Late Jury: Candice Mid Jury Adam Jonathan Parvati Early Jury Nate Pre or Early Jury Jenny Rebecca Pre Jury - 10th Place Brad Of course, now we know that Brad, even though in 10th Place, is on the Jury. I just thought the pecking order looked awfully for the underdogs, the Aitu's......
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, November 10, 2006 - 5:55 pm
Ginger, I'm confused by your comment about the Aitus being the underdogs. I look at the list and it looks like Becky, Ozzy, Sundra and Yul are the Final Four.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 3:05 am
It's interesting that it says "unanimously" since it's not like there's ever been an argument about who goes to Exile Island. This makes me wonder if they choose the exiled differently this time, perhaps having the losing team vote to send off one of their own. Nobody on Raro has friends left on Aitu, so the betrayal would have to happen within the tribe. I would still expect Raro to choose Jonathan rather than Nate since Adam, Candice and Parvarti all dislike Jonathan intensely while he considers them friends. Plus, Rebecca and Jenny wouldn't favor Jonathan over Nate. I'm wondering about Sundra mentally checking out. That letter from home really hit her hard, and might've taken her head out of the game. That doesn't mean Aitu will lose, since these teasers can be misleading. Maybe the bottle will finally be what I've been waiting to see on one of these reality shows. Maybe it will let the booted player choose someone to leave with them. I see Jonathan going next. Just can't imagine Adam or Parvarti choosing to keep Jonathan over one of the girls now that they're thinking about who they can beat in challenges after the merge.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 7:05 am
Good Morning Guys....... Lexie...the underdog comment was one that was made by Jeffy during a talk show. When Candice and Jonathan deserted Aitu, that made it 8 at Raro against 4 at Aitu, and so Jeffy referred to Aitu as the underdogs (stictly a numbers thing). Obviously, based on last week and this week to come, the Aitu are definitely not the underdogs...but Jeffy was saying that with the two people deserting them it would make the audience root for the "underdogs". That's how that word came up. Thanks for asking about it, because I didn't explain that in my post. Curly ... Some of the other posters on other sites are agreeing with what you are thinking, that the person going to Exile Island is definitely from Raro, but that this time the loser of the RC (Raro) gets to pick who goes. Word is out that posters think it is Jenny, based on the fact her tribemates have tagged her as being a bit b*itchy around camp. Rebecca is the one favored for the one "mentally checked out" with Nate being the instigator of that as he was with Stephanie on a previous show. With Brad gone last week, over at Raro if the original Raros stick together (and Jonathan would have to really back-pedal to get there), then Nate and the two girls would be the smaller-numbered group, and the original Raro's could figure if they get rid of one girl, the next time they can get rid of Jonathan without taking a chance of their numbers ever being even again (like 3 to 3). Also, at other sites people are speculating that what's in the bottle may dictate how the double boot takes place....and those speculations, right now, are all over the place. One speculation I read was interesting. (The poster suggested that the surprise look was that Jeff has just announced that it is a double boot tonight and then a merge. The loser takes the bottle to TC and it changes things. Raro loses, and the bottle says the loser goes and the 2nd most votes is immune from the next vote. Say Jenny goes and Jonathan gets the next most votes, the 2nd voting would boot Rebecca.) I've also read other people posting that the loser takes somebody with them, and Jenny loses and takes Rebecca because she has already mentally checked out...and that kinda goes along with what you speculated Curly.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 10:58 am
Insider - Last Tribal Council TRIBAL COUNCIL CANDICE (Brad - all but Brad vote for Brad): Brad, I'm voting for you tonight because I think as soon as you got the chance you would go over and mutiny and be with Becky and Yul, and you said you're playing an individual game, you don't trust the people on this tribe. So that's why I'm voting for you. Good luck. JONATHAN: Obviously this is nothing personal; you seem like a very nice guy. I'm in a very precarious position here and I'm hoping that more than me, I'm not the only one to vote for you. Good luck. REBECCA: I think you're a great guy, I just could not trust you. BRAD (Jonathan): I think you're a good guy, a good leader, and a good father, but you're coming in way too late in the game. Sorry. JENNY: I guess I won't know until all this is said and done whether it was you who wrote down my name at the last Tribal Council. Yes, we bonded, but I could never really trust you. PARVATI: I love you and I'm really gonna miss you. You're just a really strong competitor and a huge threat right now. NATE: You just proved my point. You said you don't trust us. ADAM: Nothing personal, buddy, I just see potential for you to flip to the other side if we merge, and I don't see that potential from anyone else in our tribe.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 12:17 pm
yah! my fav stuff!! thx Ginger
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 1:02 pm
The two challenges on the next episode are: 1 - wet 2 - dry with puzzle TDT shows the wet one as RC, and the dry one as IC... Survivor Fever shows the dry one as RC and the wet one as IC So, I'll wait and see which one of these sites gives in before I start posting pictures, and then have to confuse things by changing it around. Both places agree that the RC is the tribal visit with the locals and that Aitu wins both RC and IC this week.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 1:56 pm
......................................... Dry doesn't help Ozzy's team. Let's hope the other spoilers hold true though.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 11, 2006 - 4:09 pm
Okay, I think I have to agree with Survivor Fever. Yul's shirt is bright green, and just to the right of ozzy's shirt in the tribal celebration picture, you can see what I think is Yul's bright green shirt. That tells me that it was the dry challenge (puzzle solving) that was for reward (the celebration).
Aitu working the puzzle (see Yul's green shirt)
Ozzy leaping for joy...they won...his hair is dry.
Chief of the celebrating tribe that carries them off in those chairs I posted above.
You can see the sleeves of Ozzy's shirt, and I say the mark pointing to a 3rd player is Yul's green shirt.... Hence .... RC is the dry one .......
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 10:19 am
From Survivor Fever re: the IC (the wet one) Episode 9: IC - Water Based Challenge, Running, Survivors Wearing Belts Again: so far, few challenge vid caps have been included in the web promo. Perhaps more will be available in weekend promos. Hard to indicate if the water action goes with the RC or IC but we'll take a guess that it's the IC for now, subject to change.
Challenge starts out with the bottle twist. "The losing tribe will take back to camp with them this bottle." Probst: And a never before seen twist... Probst: <at Immunity Challenge> This bottle contains significant information. Probst: ...turns the game on it's head.
Close-up of bottle. Appears to contain a small paper scroll.
The bottle twist may relate to the previous week's spoilers that Episode 9 will feature two boots, possibly from the same tribe - IC losers?
Nate running carrying blue object (flag?) with clip.
Jonathan and Rebecca also participate for Raro Fearsome 4 Some win
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 12:17 pm
Awesome stuff, Ginger! I moved that first draft of the last post but saved it in case you had some difference I didn't see..
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 1:53 pm
ladid dah da ha da so it looks good for the 4 tribe, right?? I hope it is double boot and they boot the mutineers
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 3:29 pm
See Jeffy in his bright yellow shirt? (YES) See Jeffy showing the bottle with note that has to do with the IC? (YES) See Ozzy wearing a shirt?.... or Yul wearing a green shirt?... (NOPE) So, I still think Survivor Fever has it right and the wet challenge is the IC. Pamy, yes it looks good for the 4 tribe. Double boot of the mutineers ... No, Candice is too bonded to Adam and he isn't letting her go anywhere, any time soon. The favored to leave in this double boot are Jenny and Rebecca. How it happens as a double boot is up for question. Edited: Just did a quick peep over at TDT and see that they have now changed their reporting of the two challenges around, so that mystery is solved. They even state that they had the challenges reversed until the later pictures came up............"SO NOW WE KNOW"!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 4:31 pm
............................. Here's how it could go down: "Hey Nate....we need to get rid of two. Who we gonna get rid of?" "I dunno, Jonathan and someone....maybe Jenny?" "OK, I'm cool with Jenny going, but think of this: We're coming up on a merge right now, and Jonathan is obviously not with THEM. We can't be sure Rebecca wouldn't work with Sundra, right? Candace is cool, and you've got you, me and Parvati. That's who we trust. Why not Keep Jonathan who is willing to take out that other tribe, and use this week to get rid of those two girls." (This is especially true if Rebecca "checks out" mentally) "Yeah I'm down with that, and we get rid of Jonathan the moment we have the numbers to get rid of him, yet still power over Aitu."
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 7:43 pm
.................................... thx Ginger! darn I like Rebecca
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 8:18 pm
Yeah Eeyore, I can see it happening that way. Only problem is that at the end of the last show, Adam was not the least bit happy with Jonathan, so somebody is going to have to sell him on this mentality first, before he can talk to Nate about it....and I think that would be Candice. The promos show Adam and Candice still being chummy-chummy, holding hands and talking strategy....so something has to happen to make Adam give up on the idea of booting Jonathan. Could be to keep the numbers for one more week and then go after Jonathan, or something in that bottle saves Jonathan, or Adam and Jonathan make their peace. To me that will be the interesting thing to watch this week......plus that bottle thing!
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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003
| Sunday, November 12, 2006 - 10:27 pm
Oooooooh!!! I just thought of something. MAYBE, the bottle has individual immunity for one person on the tribe that loses the IC, and there is a sub-competition within Raro. Jonathan wins, so the boot must be Rebecca and Jenny??
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Monday, November 13, 2006 - 6:01 am
That's one of the possibilities. Some on other sites have said that maybe the bottle says the person with the 2nd most votes is immune from the 2nd vote, and the 2nd time around Jonathan is immune and Rebecca gets the ax. But, so far, nobody seems to have a clue what the bottled note says, so they must have kept that a pretty tight secret.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 7:04 am
In that last picture above that I posted, Yul is holding the immunity idol. Jeff is tossing the bottle, and it's been stated that Candice catches the bottle. Some think this is after the challenge, that Aitu has won and has the II, and now Jeff is explaining the bottle thing and tossing it to Raro. However, I'm not sure that the picture isn't before the challenge and that Yul is holding the II from last week and that Jeff tosses it to Candice for them to look at and then pass to Aitu to look at before returning to Jeff prior to the IC. Either way, Aitu is favored to win this water challenge so it really doesn't make any difference if the picture is before or after the challenge......unless you are playing one of those online games and the question is asked.
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