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Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
I actually liked this recruited cast better than most of the volunteer casts!!
After reading that article, I'm really impressed by Yul's work!
Wonder why others were picking on Jon's wife? That is real low-brow. I'd be ripping mad if anyone ever bad-mouthed my DH!

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Wink - LOL!!! That Ozzy-Joey look alike is incredible!! Good job!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
To those of you who don't agree that Ozzy should've won because of his survivor abilities... that may be true, but personally I feel that Ozzy dominated most of the challenges. In one way or another. He also dominated in the food gathering aspects. So for that, I give him a lot more credit than playing the brain game, or mainipulating people (as Yul did). And yes, Yul did manipulate people. He did not play the clean game he thought he was (recognizing he didn't at the end).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah... picking on Jonathan's wife. Um, so like when did they see his wife? Was Nate even there when the families visited (I can't recall)?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Here's a link to another interesting interview with Yul:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/12/19/SURVIVOR.TMP

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
There was some discussion about body hair that wasn't shown to the viewers. Maybe Jonathan shared something about his wife and the others started talking about his wife in a way that Jon found insulting. Nate had already been voted off before the show where the family members visited.

I think that even though most of them were recruited for this show, at least they aren't seeming (to me) to be trying to break into show biz, I don't think Yul or Becky are. Even if they are trying to break into show biz, I'm happy with them as long as they entertain me. Jon is an actor, but I think he added a lot of entertainment to this season's show. I'm not really talking about entertainment like Adam was..."blah blah blah boring", but all the strategy talking is very entertaining for me as a survivor viewer. I'm not looking for a comedy or drama, although it is great when that stuff happens in Survivor. If I want a comedy I'll watch a comedy movie or sitcom. I really like the gameplay and competitions and plotting and strategizing that goes on during Survivor. Anyway, I think Survivor was well cast this season...whether they were volunteers or recruits.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But he also says that when Sundra ran out of wood, Becky offered some of her wood to Sundra

If Sundra never got a real fire going, how did she run out of wood?

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Costa, they had to recruit since they don't get many minorities applying.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Maybe she ran out of the kindling, Julieboo, not the sticks. I didn't notice but that would make more sense.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Kitt - after reading that article, I like him all the more!! What a great guy - it is little wonder that we won over so many on the show - If not for the extraordinary physical abilities of Ozzy, he would have probably gotten everyone's vote.

Marej
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09-20-2002

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
I wished they had not blurred Ozzy's rear end during the hot tub reward.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
"Producers of the show recruited him to boost the numbers of Asian Americans in the selection pool, Kwon said." That means that there WERE people who applied, or at least implies that there were more than five available.

Lori
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04-18-2003

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    
I wished they had not blurred Ozzy's rear end during the hot tub reward.

ROFLOL!

Kitt...great article. What an accomplished young man Yul is.


Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Has anybody else noticed that the winner of the car...still did not win Survivor?

The curse of the car is still alive and well.

Terrylouwho
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09-09-2006

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terrylouwho a private message Print Post    
Quick question. I missed the first half of the season finale. I know there is a website that has full episodes of many different reality shows. I have the link saved in favorites on my computer at home but I'm at work and for the life of me I can't find it. Does anyone here have a clue what the website is?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I thought it was interesting that Yul stated that he was not going to let Ozzy be voted out - remember back when I thought he threw the puzzle challenge to Ozzy? Was I wiser that I knew at the time! Hummmmmmmmmm!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Has anybody else noticed that the winner of the car...still did not win Survivor?

The curse of the car is still alive and well.


Was a car won before the finale?

Snee
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06-26-2001

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snee a private message Print Post    
thanks for the link to the article! i like yul even more now than i did!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
It's funny because toward the beginning of the show, I was wondering if many of the jury might resort Yul because of his "godfather" tactics and therefore, Ozzy would win! Ozzy hadn't really offended too many people that I recall except Jonathan. So much for THAT part of the social aspect. :-)

As far as those making fun of Jon's wife: How pathetic and immature. I would have been furious if it had been my spouse, too!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Terrylou, just go to www.cbs.com, and you will find a link there to watch full episodes of Survivor.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
no Julie, but maybe if everybody had voted for Yul to win the car...

I know it's a stretch...but there winner of the car has never won Survivor...Ozzy won the car.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
http://www.survivorshrine.com/s13

Brad (votes Yuuuuuleee): I don't know how to spell your name but you have been a class act since day one, I believe in you and I believe what you stand for, and I wish you luck from here on out.

Jonathan (votes Yul): I've always been a brains over brawn, brains over beauty kind of person, I admire all of you tremendously but Yul outplayed you all, and Ozzy, your time will come my friend, you're 25 years old, I expect great things from you. Becky, I know you are going to be fantastically happy and successful in your life. Yul, you have my vote, congratulations and I hope you win. Peace out.

Candice (votes Yul): (she pretends to write a long name) Yul, I'm voting for you tonight with no reservations. You played this game better than I think anybody who has ever has played this game. You did everything right at every moment, and came out with your integrity in tact. Um, no reservations about this vote, congratulations, you're amazing.

Nathan (votes Ozzy): ::winks:: I'm proud of you dawg.

Rebecca (votes Ozzie): I never got the chance to know you but I loved the way you played the game,and I hope you do exactly what you say if you win. Go back to school because you are extremely bright and I wish you all the best.

Sundra (votes Yul): Ummm Yul, I think you are an amazing guy and you're tried and true which I always respected and um, yeah I just knew I could always trust you and in this game that means hella a lot and I totally admire how you played this game strategically, I learned so much from you and was in total awe of your intellect and I look forward to having a great friendship with you and um, and I know you will appreciate and honor to have a million dollars and I respect that, enjoy enjoy.

Jenny (votes Ozzie): Ozzy I think you played an amazing physical game. You just were phenomenol and I admire your competitiveness and I think that you underestimated yourself as far as how you outwitted and used strategy, but I admire you if for every aspect for in how you outlasted this game, good luck to you in the future.

Adam (votes Yul): I think Ozzy pleaded his case the best tonight at Tribal Council but I made a promise with Yul that I would vote for him in this situation if it arise for voting Jonathan ahead of me, so I haven't broken any promises yet and I'm not going to start now.

Parvati (votes Oscar): The ultimate competitor, um the intensity and the passion, and the fire that you've brought to this game completely captivated me and I feel so lucky and so blessed to play side by side with you for as long as I did. I really appreciate getting to know you and everything you did out here, I think you played your heart out and you totally deserve to win this game.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Great find, Csnog, thanks for that! Candice's comments are interesting as she gave Yul the yes/no question at tribal council.

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
The Aitu 4 were extremely boring people. They showed little if any personality.

ITA Chili! Well I should say I didn't like the 4 Aitu "together".

But honestly I was so stinkin' sick of their "bond". They were so lovey dovey "let's play fair and not hurt anyone" I wanted to puke. BORING!!! I just wanted to see someone in the 4 turn on the others. MAKE THINGS INTERESTING!!

It's just.....I don't watch this show to see people be "honorable, loyal, faithful and have integrity".....I want to see people play hardcore. Scrape and fight their way to the finish, using whatever tactics they need to.

ARGH! I'm having such a hard time formulating my thoughts!........Hmmmm....The 4 Aitu stuck together till the end right? This did not necessarily benefit all of them. So why, when they may have had the chance to split and do better for themselves, did stay together? Both Sundra and Becky must have known that they would have a tough time beating Yul. And Ozzy....normally you don't try to get to the end with your toughest competitor Yul.

Now I know most were charmed by their bond, but it seemed to me a misplaced sense of honor that held their "alliance" together. PLAY FOR YOURSELF!!! Don't feel you are honor-bound to stay together.

I just feel that this is the reason they were so boring. I think things could have been a lot more EXCITING if they would have played a little bit more for themselves. There are two scenarios, here's the one we saw this year and it was so pathetic I thought it was comical:

1. The final 4 are so happy that they got to the ending together! Gosh, they are so proud of each other.

"Oh, what was that Jeff? we get to bring 3 to the finale? Oh joy I'm so happy I have one more person to compete for the million dollar prize with!"

"I will certainly be happy if any of these people win! Oh I could never say a bad thing about the other three!"

"Compete? I don't think I understand the word! We have bonded so much and we love each other so much it has never even entered our heads to compete against each other!".


blech. I'm almost falling asleep writing this! Honestly this is how I viewed the Aitu 4. Now what I would prefer to see and what would be more EXCITING and UNPREDICTABLE would be:

2. The last days are tense at camp. The final 4 are nervous and edgy. Each one is trying to figure out who would be more beneficial to go to the F2 with. Everyone's feeling out where alliance lines may lay. Each one knows that they need to win the IC or their butt may be sent home. The idea of failing to win the final Immunity Challenge looms over them like a gloomy cloud. Each person burns with jealousy at the thought of one of the others winning over themselves. After a couple anxiety filled days each one has decided who they have the best shot at winning against. Jeff announces that there will be a F3 instead of a F2. NOW WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO?! All of their strategizing is for nought!

Now that's the kind of ending I would like!! I'm not condoning jealousy, but I feel it is a sure sign of how badly you really want to win. I felt like none of Aitu truly felt this way (except for maybe Ozzy) they all went so complacently, happily to the end (practically skipping and holding hands). I didn't feel really ANY competitive spirit amongst them and that was sooo disappointing!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, December 19, 2006 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Trueheart, I believe Oz had signed in to post on S.Sucks.

The A4 did have lots of heart wrenching decision to toss around. Yul said in interviews how Bec was pretty single-minded on getting rid of Oz. But Yul knew that was not a plan for himself. We will never know, but it did look as if Yul threw at least one IC. Yul wanted to keep A4 together and not let Becky get her way. He knew full well that was his best bet. He admitted to have manipulated others but was trying to stay true to his word about A4 going to the F4.

Oz(that's how he signs over SS) was totally ready to take whichever girl left to the F2. Yul had sense that from Oz and was prepared to plead the case out with Oz(the jury will not respect you should you take a "rider" to the F2....) until tptb changed the game up.

Like I said, I would have been happy for Oz, too, if he was the winner. There was a saying in my student days when I used to have to perform my instruments in front of a jury: "You never know what the prof. had for lunch/dinner today, Chinese food or Italian food in tummies might play a part in their deliberation!" I think it could apply here as well. Logic just isn't the only thing involved sometimes.