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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 6:50 am
just wanted to pop in and say thanks to you, ginger for all that you do to keep us abreast of things. i really appreciate your hard work and dedication.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 8:26 am
Yes Ginger, you keep it such fun for us. I love it when I log on in the morning and see your name in the spoiler section!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:34 am
You guys are more than welcomed. I go searching for myself.......and for just a little more effort, I can bring it over here for you to consider. As you have found out in the past, none of it is set in concrete!!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:39 am
Hey Pamy .... Here's your favorite "Insider" transcripts from the last Tribal Council. Look at what Jonathan had to say. It's funny that he feels in an alliance with PAC, so votes for Nate....but according to the previews they chew his b*tt off anyway (LOL). TRIBAL COUNCIL The newly merged tribe faces the closest vote yet as three members of the jury look on from the sidelines. SUNDRA (Nate): Nate, it's nothing personal, just strategy. BECKY (Nate): It's nothing personal, just part of strategy to get Aitu to the final four. YUL (Nate): Nate. You seem honestly like a great guy, and I wish I had gotten to know you better and that we weren't on separate tribes. I'd still like to get to know you. This is purely a strategic vote. I don't know how it's going to go down tonight, but best of luck of you, and I hope to get to know your friendship outside of this game. ADAM ("Yule"): You're a stand-up guy with a lot of integrity, but you're also a threat. OZZY (Nate): I hope your plan works, man. I don't know how anyone else is voting, but...sorry if it's you. NATE ("Yuehl"): This is nothing personal, but you control your tribe too much. Peace out, brother. PARVATI ("Yule"): You are just too smart and too strong. It's a lethal combination. CANDICE (Yul): Yul, this vote is strategic, but I also don't think you should hide behind the idea that you haven't lied in this game. You have, and I know it and you know it. JONATHAN: This was never my intention, but Yul presented me with the immunity idol and said if I didn't vote with them, that it would be me going home tonight, that they'd all vote for me. My alliance is more with Adam, and Candice, and Parvati. I couldn't go home tonight. I hope you understand.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 10:50 am
Oooooohhh, there's some really good stuff from the "Insider" also from a confessional interview done with Parvati. ******************* PARVATI AND THE NEW TRIBE Parvati reflects on the individual members of Aitutonga post-merge. "I think I did alright. It was our first individual challenge, and I just wanted to prove I could hold my own among these people. I think I did OK. I just wanted to outlast Yul and make sure he didn't win immunity so we could vote for him tonight, and I did that." (Ginger: Didn't do her much good, did it?) "Oh, I knew that Ozzy could probably outlast all of us on the pole. He's like a baboon. He just climbs trees, like 50-foot coconut trees to chop coconuts. That challenge was really made for Ozzy." "Candice, when she puts her mind to something there's no deterring her, there's nothing that can make her quit. I knew Candice and Ozzy would pretty much be the last ones standing." "I think Candice definitely is a threat in this game. She's one of the strongest girls, and mentally, she just zones out, and she wins things. It's all mind over matter, normally. That's what she can do. Candice is a threat." (Ginger: And this may very well be why she is the next one voted out.) "Yul is the first choice for voting someone out tonight, because he's brilliant. He's like Mr. Harvard-Stanford-Yale guy. He's also really strong. I think today he could have lasted longer in that challenge, but he didn't want to let everyone realize how strong he is. I do believe Yul is our top threat right now." (Ginger: Yep!) "Yul is a very strong competitor. He makes me very nervous that he's not on our side. I think he's very smart, and crafty, and if he wanted to swing someone from our five over to their four, he could probably find a way to smooth talk someone into doing that. So I want to nip that in the bud tonight, and make sure Yul goes home." "Jonathan didn't want to vote Yul out tonight, which also made me a little bit skeptical, and I was like, yeah we definitely have to get him out. Jonathan was saying he wanted Ozzy to go tonight. Nate doesn't want Ozzy to go, because Nate and Ozzy are forming some kind of bond. Jonathan wants Ozzy out as fast as he can because he hates him. They're like bitter rivals, Ozzy and Jonathan and Candice. It was kind of funny that it was Ozzy and Candice left at the end today. It was kind of like, who hates each other the most? (laughs) Who's gonna stand here the longest, withstand the pain just to spite the other person? In the end, Ozzy won out, so it's gotta be Yul tonight." (Ginger: See, Jonathan tried to swing them before defecting again.) "Nate and Ozzy have really clicked since we merged. Nate really wants to keep him around for as long as he can. I don't know where that came from, but I'm just gonna go along with it, because it doesn't hurt me at all. I still feel pretty secure with our foursome. It's me, Nate, Candice, and Adam. If Nate wants to bring in Ozzy, I don't really care. I don't know how it's gonna go right now, but I'm not gonna worry about it. If Nate wants to fight Jonathan about keeping Ozzy, then he can, but I'm just going to sit back and watch the sparks fly if that happens." "There's tons of talk about who has the immunity idol. I'm pretty - I'm 100% sure that Adam has the hidden immunity idol. He's not very slick about being slick. Every time you ask him about it, he gets this goofy grin on his face (makes a face) like, 'I don't know who has it.' (mocks Adam) 'Oh, I know Yul doesn't have it, I know Jonathan doesn't have it, I know Candice doesn't have it. I don't know who has it.' (rolls her eyes) I'm like, Adam, you're ridiculous. Just admit it. But he won't. He won't admit it. (laughs)" (Ginger: Now that's funny. She thinks Adam has the II from Exile Island) "Jonathan is driving me crazy. He's driving me insane. He's a dictator. All he does is sit around the fire - he works so hard and brings in so much food and that's great and that's awesome because we're all hungry - but he sits around the fire, nonstop telling people what to do, just nonstop dictator. I can't handle it. I don't like being told what to do, honestly." "So as far as Jonathan coming with me, Nate, Candice and Adam to five, I don't think it's gonna happen. Plus, he's a much bigger threat than Sundra and Becky at this point, so he might be one of the next ones to go. And I think Adam and Candice are cool with that too." (Ginger: Ooooohhhhh) "There are some sparks with me and Nate, but it's nothing like...I'm here to play the game. I'm here to win the game. I don't know as far as Nate's thinking. Nate's kind of laid his feelings on the line. With me, I don't get romantically attached very easily. It's going to take a little bit longer for me to develop feelings for someone. I don't fall easily and I don't fall fast at all."
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 11:11 am
Do you think Parvati is getting a glimmer of the true facts at this point?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 12:31 pm
Duh ...... I would think that after that confessional and then the unsuspected (to her) boot of Nate, she should have had her eyes opened quite a bit (LOL). I still do not know if it will be revealed to the others in this episode that Yul has the II. If Jonathan reveals to the others to make them feel better about his going against their vote, he is shooting himself in the foot because Yul has inferred to him that he would be the best "Bad Guy" to take to Final 2 with him. (Of course, I think Yul was blowing smoke when he said that). And I can't see why Yul would let the others know he has the II because, at this point, what would it accomplish?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 1:28 pm
Unless Yul takes his pointers from Erwin and Godwin on TAR he will keep his mouth shut to the others on the Raro tribe about having the HII. It really would serve him not at all! And I almost feel sorry for Parvati, because she really thinks that she is "in" with Candace and Adam. Her only shot with Adam was if Candace hadn't come back. I think it was a good move to show the others on his team, though. That insured that they will protect him for a while, since they know if they tried to vote him out they would be putting their ownselves at risk. As long as they stick together as a tribe they will have the upper hand. Now that the numbers are even (they are, aren't they?) they really almost have the HII as the 5th member of their tribe. I'm just hoping for Ozzy to get individual immunity to counteract Yul's HII.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 1:45 pm
I have to think that Jonathan counts as a 5th to the Aitu right now because of the same reason he joined them last week. Once Candice (or whoever) is gone this week, the Aitu's will no longer need Jonathan's support, so he might very well be a candidate for the chopping block, but the spoilers don't actually show him going until the episode after that one, at F6.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 1:52 pm
Sounds like Adam is giving the impression that he has the Idol as a strategy to keep him. No one from his alliance will want to vote for him for fear he would use it. Maybe that's why Jonathan asked Yul to 'see' the idol. He may have been thinking that Adam had it all along. Based on what Pav said, they only suspect Adam has the idol, while Yul's team 'knows' that Yul has the idol because they've all seen it. Thanks Ginger... it's always good to have some additional insight. Pav's confessional was interesting.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 4:26 pm
Since Candace just "knows" Yul doesn't have the II, if she suspected Adam had it, don't you think she would have asked Adam to show it to her?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 5:33 pm
Oh, I'm sure she would. But Adam could be playing the same game with Candace he is with Parvati.......or...... since Adam and Candace seem to have an F2 wish together, he may have already admitted to her that he doesn't have the II but the two of them thought it was good to make Parvati, Nate and Jonathan think that he did. Like I said.......at this point, it doesn't make any difference......they're toast!!!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 28, 2006 - 7:42 pm
great stuff..loved the extra insider stuff!!!!! Ginger ROCKS!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:04 am
Survivor Fever has more speculation on their part up today. They had a close-up shot of the IC challenge layout, and I stretched it this way and that to fit here at TVCH so I thought you could see it better....
Survivor Fever says: "The Immunity Challenge tests the Survivors memory of the past 30 days of the game. Which Survivor's memory will serve them well and keep them safe for another week?" Web promo footage features a obstacle course: Challenge Start: seems to have 8 flag poles Event 1: has a line all the way across (could be a skill thing like arrow shoot or something) Event 2: appears to have only 3-4? squares - possibly puzzle tables Event 3: crawl under obstacle structure Event 4: taller bamboo structures (3D maze?) Event 5: water pit with the float squares to run across to the 3 poles at the end They also speculate that Adam wins the IC since he is the only one featured in the promos (I frankly think it's misdirection by CBS and that Ozzy has the best chance at this, but then who am I?) They also speculate that either Candice or Parvati will be going to Exile Island (so they must think that Becky won the right to send somebody to Exile Island rather than Becky pulled a bad win of having to go herself)
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 7:11 am
Thanks for all you do, Ginger! I love being "in the know" before each show -
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 8:05 am
I'm still baffled by the certainty of the Raros that Yul can't have the hidden idol. Reading Parv's comments above (thanks, Ginger!) gave me these two possible ideas: 1) Wouldn't it be funny if Adam found something he mistakenly thinks is the hidden idol, and it's not? or 2) Could it be possible that there were 2 hidden idols, and Adam has the other one, but the Show is only showing us about Yul's so we'll be shocked when/if the second one is presented by Adam? Both would explain why the Raros insist Yul can't have it, which unless they are total dummies, how can they not even consider it? (Shame on me, but I think the first scenario would be absolutely hilarious!)
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:00 am
I think both of those ideas are great....and I would love to see something like that happen. I just think that it is Adam's way of trying to get other Survivors not to vote for him...but I really find it hard to give him that much credit for a good idea like that.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:15 am
I want Becky to go to exile. Keeping fingers crossed.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 12:26 pm
they speculated last week that Yul couldnt have it cuz he was only there one day..dont know why they think he couldnt get it in 1 day, maybe cuz the others couldnt figure it out with just 1 clue
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 5:29 pm
Voting for the Boot across the boards.... Surviver Fever - Candace Surviver Blows - 17 for Candace, 2 for Parvate, 1 for Adam and 1 for Yul TDT - Says only 1 of either Candace, Adam, or Parvati
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 8:39 pm
quote:1) Wouldn't it be funny if Adam found something he mistakenly thinks is the hidden idol, and it's not?
A dream scenario: JP tallies the votes and it comes up that Adam is voted out. Adam looks around with a smug expression and that little shit eating grin of his...he pulls something out of his pocket and proceeds to hand it to JP. JP asks what's this? Adam says its the hidden Immunity Idol... JP lookes incredulous as he shows the other members a rusty, seaweed covered, beer can. LOL! --------------------------------------- Thanks Ginger...this is the first season ever that I have followed the spoilers. I never have in the past because I wanted it to be a surprise, bu this season got so boring there for a minute that it didn't bother me if I knew what was going to happen.
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Biscottiii
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05-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 8:53 pm
Nick ~ "JP lookes incredulous as he shows the other members a rusty, seaweed covered, beer can. " <100> Bet I can guess what's next! LOL, can picture it all!
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Harsbars
Member
09-15-2005
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 8:56 pm
LMAO Nick! First the B/V/J comment. Now this! You have me in stitches. Adam's grin really bugs me. What is Candice thinking?
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 9:16 pm
In Adam's Contestant thread - Mocha pointed it out Then Kaili posted pics side by side! Adam w/smile looks just like Howie from BB. No wonder he irritated the cranky ol' lady out of me! Remarkable resemblance, for sure check it out!
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Starshine40
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07-30-2002
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:12 pm
I think it would be hilarious if Adam had something he thought was the immunity idol and pulled it out after the vote cause the others had voted for him to be evicted.
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Rbk10
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 11:29 pm
The best moment in that clip was Jonathan telling them that Yul actually did have the idol, especially Adam's reaction. He sort of had his head down, but once Jonathan told them, his head rose, with a hilarious look of shock on his face. He really looked stunned. Hee! <100> http://media.tv.ign.com/media/823/823247/vids_1.html
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 6:14 am
Wow..........that clip was awesome. So, Jonathan tells the other 3 Raro's when they return to camp after Tribal Council that "Yul Does Have The Idol. He Showed It To Me!" Even after that, Parvati says she doesn't believe him, that she doesn't believe a word that comes out of his mouth. Thanks Rbk for putting that link here because I would not have found that without you. So ..... if Jonathan has already told the Raro's the night of returning from Tribal Council, what's the shocking news that is revealed at the RC. I bet it is the fact that somebody is going to Exile Island based on whats up for auction, either the buyer goes or the buyer gets to pick somebody to go.
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 6:38 am
That clip was great!!! Rbk, thank you for posting the link. It only enhances my belief that Candace, Adam and Parvati deserve each other. I think Pavarti has a little nerve slamming Jonathan for playing the game the only way he can when it was her strategy from the beginning to "flirt" her way through the game. That may be why I dislike her as much as I do.
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Kep421
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08-11-2001
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 8:30 am
does anyone know if that clip is on YouTube? I can't get to the clip from work, but YouTube is accessable.... ...sure would love to see that clip *sighs*
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 8:45 am
Thanks for the clip RBK. Loved it. Since that's a clip for the ep tonight, I think it might be the "shocking news" referred to. I can't wait for tonight - can't wait to see which Raro gets the boot this time, can't wait to see the heated words exchanged in previews, can't wait to see if the hidden ii makes it's debut, and if so cannot wait to see the expressions on some currently smug faces. (Not very often does a season develop sooo satisfactorily for me!!)
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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 10:54 am
Parvati looks the fool in that clip, not to mention her throwback to the Valley Girl movie with that accent. "Like, oh my GOD Jonathan, I like, feel nauseous. Like, gag me with a spoon and let me like, throw up all over your face."
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Flossiebebe
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09-01-2005
| Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:00 am
jonathon may be annoying and bossy but he's playing the best game he can based on his options that are left. I wish he'd get F3 but he doesn't appear to be able to break into that Aitu group....no wonder he wanted Ozzy gone
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