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Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, to me, it is because white people are not discriminated against in the USA the way people of other races are. We have no reason to be going around saying, "white power!" We haven't faced the prejudices that Blacks, Asians and Hispanics have faced.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But see, that is exactly why it seems hypocritical. At any rate, I am not about to turn this into a big race issue. We can leave that for N&V. Just does not seem "right."

I very much enjoyed this season. I also liked how Jeff and even Adam tried to stir the pot...

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
(this is tongue-in=cheek)...but wouldn't the perfect TAR pairing be Yul and Ozzy? Brains and incredible athletic ability?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Jb do you know what the term White Power means? I posted about it in N/V.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
In case you don't...

White Power is an ideology and a political slogan describing the views of white nationalists and white supremacists.

As a political phrase, White Power was coined by American Nazi Party leader George Lincoln Rockwell. He used the term in a debate with Stokley Carmichael of the Black Panther Party, after Carmichael issued a call for "Black Power". White Power became the name of the American Nazi Party's newspaper, and the title of a book by Rockwell. Many racist factions — such as white supremacists and certain Neo-Nazis — use the phrase White Power.

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Lori
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04-18-2003

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori a private message Print Post    
Auntiemike...no blasting from me! I agree 100% with your assessment!

Roxip....perfect combo for TAR. Would love to see it!


Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I love it!!!! Perfect match up. Yul and Oz would be a force on the race.

Jonathon would have been a good casting choice for AR, too, of course as an antagonist not villain because it is a game and like in monopoly there are no villains...LOL

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Roxip,
I like how you turned the race" into "Amazing Race". I would love to see them on the show.

If not them, then Ozzie and Becky.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Yul & Becky would be a good pair for TAR too. I could actually see the producers going after this pair b/4 Ozzy/Yul.

I'd love to see Ozzy on another reality show though - TAR would be the ultimate but I have no idea who would be good as a pair up for him.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I would totally watch TAR if they paired up Ozzy and Yul. I would love to see that.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
Yul would be resented for being a million dollar winner. I think he's great, but lets put a little bug in AR producers ear.

Ozzie-Becky
Ozzy-Parvati

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
I'm not too happy about Jeff giving all the information at TC and during the competitions. Jeff interjected a little too much this season.

I completely agree about this. All season long, I think he put a little to much personal commentary in. At times I really thought his statements could sway the tribal decision.

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
So the question is:

Did Yul's "strategy" game make him more deserving than Ozzy's physical dominance?

I don't and never will agree.I have seen better strategy games from other seasons. I think Yul was referred to once as a Godfather type player.....but no one did that better than Rob on all-stars. He controlled players and they weren't even on his own tribe. So "as a whole" I guess Yul's game didn't impress me all that much.

Ozzy's pure adaption to the environment impressed more than any other survivor. ever. I think if they were to have even three more challenges Ozzy would have continued to win. I think too much credit is given to strategy. It's a big deal don't get me wrong. But I don't think that "survivor skills" should always be given second place. It is as much a part of the survivor experience as strategizing.

I think that Ozzy excelled way more in "survivor skills" than Yul excelled in strategizing. That is why I think OZZY deserves to win.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Did Ozzy ever lose an immunity challenge after the merge? I'm just trying to figure out if he would have been voted off if it were not for Yul's strategizing?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I could be mistaken (and I certainly wouldn't swear to it), but didn't Adam win one after the merge? It seems to me had Adam not won an IC, he would have gone before Candace and Parvati.



Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I agree, Trueheart!!

I'd also love to see Ozzy in TAR.

Chieko
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11-20-2003

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chieko a private message Print Post    
Re: racial comments, No one has commented on Yul saying he is glad a minority won. In others words he is glad a caucasion didn't win. In relation to the game no one was a minority, they started out with equal numbers ---once again a comment that a white couldn't say and not be chastised for. I'm also glad a white didn't win but not because of their race, but because I didn't like any of them.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Did anyone win a car while on the island? (I know O won one with the phone in votes) but was there ever a challenge with a car as a prize?

Bandit
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07-29-2001

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bandit a private message Print Post    
Parvarti?!!?!?!?!? YUCK!!!! I hope I never have to see her on another show ever again!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Chieko, I totally agree. I think it is weird that a comment can be said by or of minorities, but if the same thing was said of whites, then it's offensive...

(Also I did not like any of the whites except for Jonathan!)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Thanks Lexie. Can anyone confirm that?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
No one here said it would be offensive if a white person said they're glad a white person won.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
ITA Chieko and Julieboo except that I liked all the white people except Jonathon. White people are judged and criticized by everything they say and do while it is perfectly acceptable for any minority to say and do whatever they want without judgment. They don't seem to understand that equality means equality in all things not just the ones they choose.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
adam won immunity the night candice went home:

Cook Islands

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Monday, December 18, 2006 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I just thought it was pretty funny and ironic that Jonathan, of all people, would have the nerve to cal ANYONE else arrogant. And if he wanted someone with an entitlement complex, he should look no further than three of his original teammates.