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Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I still wonder are the white's only being portrayed in a negative manner due to the supposition people went into with? Meaning....did everyone think the Caucasion tribe would get the best edits or are the editor's trying to make them the least favorite among watchers due to some of the outrage some viewers had when they heard about how the tribes would be divided.

I'm not big fan of the caucasion tribe too, but it still makes me wonder.

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Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
At first I wasn't happy that Yul was picked for Exile Island...but now I'm dancing! HA! That'll teach 'em. Don't mess with my Yul.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
now, i'm really getting confused. if caucasians are born in Mexico aren't they Mexicans too just not Hispanic/Latino or whatever the proper term is?

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I am not sure why the white tribe is being singled out as bad or not appealing. We barely know them. Sounds like predjudice to me. Or perhaps a statement in support of the minorities to show that we are not bigots?

This show is only two weeks in. We have barely had time to know anyone other than Cao Boi!

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I am trying to remember when, in the 2 episodes shown so far, the white team has been singled out or shown more negatively than the other teams. Anybody have any instances to point out?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Charlize Theron is African since she was born in South Africa. <shrug>

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
gosh, that makes me more confused. so, if Charlize Theron lives in the USA now and becomes naturalized will she be an African American even though she is caucasian?

i am not trying to be funny. i really don't understand some of these terms.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
I don't remeber any negative sceens with the white team. For each team, there are players with negative characteristics. I thought Adam on the white team was being whiney when they wanted to build a floor. But others are either too-little-information for me to form an opinion, or I'm okay with them.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
**Grabs a coke to go with the popcorn**

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Right now I do especially like the AA team - especially the females. Thought it was cute when Nathan was so thrilled that the girls got the fire started! I personally was happy they sent Sekou packin' last week, as they seem much closer and didn't need his "leadership" to work as a team.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
One more post....If I could put together a Dream Team from all four, I'd pick Stephanie, Yul, Ozzy, Jonathan and Jenny. (I like Ozzy - plus he can do so much around camp!!)

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
Rehtse--Sorry for calling them the "Spanish" team, I wasn't meaning to offend anyone. Please forgive my ignorance.

What should I refer to this team as? Latino?

On the white team, I found 2 of the girls really really quiet almost non-respondent except the one with the blue socks, sorry forgot her name. Adam was awfully negative about building a better bed. I don't know enough about there team yet but so far they really don't seem unified.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Yep she could Cnd, even though it's not her race, just her countries of origin.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
People (the US and state governments) call us a whole bunch of things. Some folks like to be called Latino because it does away with the whole oppression thing that our ancestors suffered at the hands of the Spanish. Others like to be called Hispanic since this is the moniker that we were given by the US census many moons ago. Since I am Mexican, I prefer to be called Mexican. However, I am not offended by being called Hispanic or Latina.

Charlize Theron would be "South African" since that is where she is from. I am a naturalized USC and despite the fact that I've lived in this country since the age of two I do not consider myself "American".

Anyway to reiterate, I think that this season of Survivor will hopefully serve to educate the public at large.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
Ok, I will refer to the team as "Latina". I just like the way it rolls off my tongue better than Hispanic.

Thanks for the correction Rehtse, I don't want to offend anyone.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Back to Survivor, if I'd been on the Hispanic tribe, I would have voted out Billy too. Nothing gets under my skin more than someone with a nopal on their forehead who denies his heritage. To top it off, he sure had a BAD attitude.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I am not sure why the white tribe is being singled out as bad or not appealing. We barely know them. Sounds like predjudice to me. Or perhaps a statement in support of the minorities to show that we are not bigots?

I think that is why, Fruitbat. Kind of like overcompensating or something....

Although I do not like Adam's work ethic or reasoning at all.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Latina is the term for females only. Latino is the term for males or a mixed gender grouping of individuals.

Okay, I really need to lose the chip on my shoulder! Don't hate me, I went to UCLA which taught me to be very sensitive to racial issues.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
I think this is a good thing too - A friendly forum to ask and learn.

In THAT light, I need a little 'edjumukation' myself. WAY back, when I was in school, we were taught there were three basic races, and they named them (bear with me here - crossing fingers that I'm not offending in any way)... Caucasoid, Mongoloid and Negroid (prob screwed up the spelling). Anywho. What do they teach these days? Still 3? What label do they use for each one? Or do they even address race in school?

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Rehtse, sorry about my post before. Took it the wrong way.

But now......

They threw the challange!!!!! Why???


They should have won and kept Billy and then get rid of him when they did lose one. It would be an easy vote off then. If they lose the next challenge, who will they vote off now? It's not going to be so easy to choose.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I work on Special Censuses for the US Government. According to them, Hispanic, Latino, Chicano, etc are NOT races. They are considered "ethinicities" (ie irish, polish, etc.)

The US govt. makes us ask anyone who answers "hispanic" (or latino, etc.) if they consider themselves white or black. From my experience, most will say white. Some will insist on hispanic, so that is what we write in.

Just a little trivia for ya...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Cecilia is from Peru so that would make her a Peruvian/South American.

Could Nathan qualify also on the Latin team also since his last name is Gonazalez?

My second husband is Hispanic, Mexican, whatever you want to call it. His ex-wife's best friend is Cuban. One of the many things I learned is that you never, ever, under any circmumstances, refer to a Mexican as Cuban or to a Cuban as Mexican.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
You guys I really tried...but I have to ask...what does UCLA teach to make you sensative to racial issues?

Scoot crawls back under desk to work on self modding.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Julie, how interesting that you posted that because I left out that my ex's driver's license and birth certificate state he is white.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, why don't they come up with better labels? I say this in all seriousness and without any mean-spiritedness. I have white blood since I am very light skinned. I also have indigenous blood since some of my facial features are very telling. American society does not consider me to be white since I have experienced loads of discrimination in this country, so why should I be called white for census purposes??

P.S. Contrary to all my comments today. I quite frankly like Mark Burnet's idea to divide up the tribes into races. Very provocative and hopefully educational for all who watch the show.