TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
SPOILER - Oct 19th Show

The TVClubHouse: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor XIII - Cook Islands: Survivor General Discussions: SPOILER - Oct 19th Show users admin

  Thread Last Poster Posts Pages Last Post
Archive through October 19, 2006Curlyq25 10-19-06  10:01 pm
  ClosedClosed: New threads not accepted on this page        

Author Message
Starshine40
Member

07-30-2002

Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starshine40 a private message Print Post    
Candace and Adam were on the same tribe originally and they were snuggling close at night to keep warm supposedly and were hanging out together during the daytime. They seemed to be getting pretty close before the tribes were changed.

Trueheart
Member

09-12-2006

Thursday, October 19, 2006 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
What is up with the blonde girl and the guy from other team??? she mouthed 'i love you' and they were totally flirting.....did I miss something in earlier eps?

LOL I thought the same thing!! I never saw the 1st or 2nd episodes so I was quizzing my sister on whether or not she had noticed anything between them earlier on. She didn't remember anything particular.

I always felt neutral about Candace but tonight she totally earned RESPECT. That girl is wily!! She held that team up for a long time!

Save me from the Survivor Eye Candy!!

GOSH!! Adam...Adam...Adam...That boy is sooo DARNED ADORABLE! I told my sis just watching his face and smiles makes me smile TOO!! LOL I'm normally all about the ROMANCES, but oddly enough I could care less whether or not they hook up. I just want to KEEP that HOT guy around a while longer!!

The more I see of Yul the more gorgeous I find him! His face really is HANDSOME. And his body....'nough said!! LOL

What is really creepy to me, is that I am actually starting to become attracted to JOHNATHAN!!! Of all people HIM! I just can't believe it, he just seemed so <100>....I don't know....in the beginning I just thought he was gooney. NOW THOUGH!! He is lookin' supercute with the gray hair and whiskers, his features are more defined and his blue eyes are grabbing my attention now!

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 1:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I think they took Nate because they thought it would improve their chances of winning the next Reward Challenge.

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Can anyone explain Cao Boi's plan to me? I understand the 3/3 vote thing, just don't get how it would flush out the immunity idol holder. Wouldn't that only work if they were using the hidden II as the tiebreaker? Are they doing that? Otherwise, wouldn't they re-vote, then do whatever the tiebreaker is this time around? And the hidden II would only come into play once it was determined who was going...so, it would be just as effective to simply vote Jonathan off. I can see making sure you split the votes so that Candice would go if Jonathan had the idol...but seems like a 4-2 vote would have worked just as well.

Trueheart, I have liked Jonathan Penner for a long time. He was REALLY cute back in the day when he was on "The Naked Truth". I don't think he's nearly as cute now...but that may change when he starts to get really scruffy. I like my Survivor men scruffy...don't go for that in real life, though.

Trini
Member

07-06-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
...I think flushing out the idol is a so so good move, ('cause Cao Boi wanted to keep his Asian people for the merge) only Cao Boi really doesn't know Yul found the idol and is taking a chance. Yul is in alliance with Jonathan, Becky and Candice. I think if the vote was 3/3 Yul would be forced to use it on one of his aligned team-mates. So forcing his hand, things will fall apart.

Trini
Member

07-06-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
OH! one more thing. Jonathan is already talking about the strength of Ozzy, and saying that in individual comps Ozzy will be difficult to beat, J is already looking down the road to get rid of O.
Yet I hope Ozzy wins it all, cannot see him thinking that far ahead, at the moment he is so enjoying the game.

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 5:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Have they said that the II would be used in a tiebreak situation? Also, in order for Yul to have been forced into using the II, he'd have had to be foolish enough to go along with the plan. Even if he had, I still think that they'd have at least done a revote before it came to the idol, at which time he could have simply changed his vote to save whomever he wished.

Sallycat22
Member

08-31-2005

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
In bringing some one into thieir tribe, they should have chosen the one they thought was the most clueless. By chosing Nate, who is sharp, they are giving him insight into their weaknesses.

Hermione69
Member

07-24-2002

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 5:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Spear. I think they chose Nate to increase their chances of winning Reward. It really hurts the Raro team not to have him for the challenge.

I loved last night's reward comp and the women really impressed me, especially Candace and Cristina.

Pdxmom
Member

08-08-2006

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pdxmom a private message Print Post    
I think they may have underestimated Nate and his smarts. I agree they wanted him for his physical ability to get them through the reward challenge.

Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I hope they don't gang up and vote Ozzy out. He is my favorite.

Christina still didn't have a clue as to how annoying she was to other people. Her goodbye message would have been enough to make me vote her out!

Madelane
Member

08-20-2001

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
Woofy were you kidding about the Alan Alda thing? Because we had a LONG discussion about it a few weeks ago - you were definitely not ignored unless you mentioned it AFTER the discussion. Someone else suggested he also sounds like Howard Stern. I hear both, every time he talks.

Cdbga, what is the Naked Truth? And what did Jonathan do on it?

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Cdbga, I don't think they've explained how the Idol would come into play in a tiebreaker situation. Anyway, even if he had the chance, I don't believe Yul would have used it to save either Jonathan or Candice. They were both his allies so he would lose one of them whether he used it or not.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I'm confused, did Nate stay with the new tribe that kidnapped him? If not, it doesn't make since for them to have kidnapped him because it kept him safe.

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
The plan: Force both Candice & Jonathon into the situation that they have the most votes. If one of them has the idol, then that person would use it to save themselves and the next highest vote getting is out. Another person cannot give the idol away after the vote (you have to have it in your own hand to use it).

Nate: I agree with the thought above in that maybe they thought he'd help them in the next challange since Jeff said "stay with you through the next reward challange".

I hope someone noticed what Candace & Adam were doing, because Nate was already worried about Jenny being aligned with the other Asians....what about the Caucasian team - they could have a strong group at the merge.

What's with Ben voting for Jenny???? You'd think he'd have a tighter bond with her from their previous tribe but he voted against her? Dang.
'squeek'

Foolscap
Member

09-04-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Foolscap a private message Print Post    
Yes. Cao Boi seemed quite sure that Jonathon had the immunity idol (since he'd had 2 trips to Exile Island) and figured splitting the vote 3/3 betwwen he and Candace would force Jonathon to use the idol and Candace would go. Yul's secret is safe for now so long as becky keeps her mouth shut.

Nerovh
Member

06-12-2005

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Cristina was even annoying me by the time they got rid of her. Not too sorry to see her go.

Everytime I'd start to like Cao Boi a little, he would do something else stupid. I didn't think it would be a good idea to bring the idol to the challenge, but it was his reaction to Jonathan that bothered me. Jonathan had a valid point, and Cao Boi just got mad and didn't even really register WHY Jonathan didn't want to take the idol. I'm not really sorry to see him go, either.

And how dumb was it for Candace to be doing that blatant flirting? She just confirmed her tribemates' suspicions about the other tribe protecting her by sending her to exile island. I like her, but if she goes next, it's her own fault.

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Madelane, The Naked Truth was an NBC sitcom from a while back (1995-1998, I was working at an NBC affiliate at the time). It starred Tea Leoni as a newly divorced woman who goes back to work as a photographer and can only get hired at a tabloid. Jonathan Penner played Nick, who was another member of the staff. Of course the name makes it sound so much more risque! I just remember thinking he was cute at the time. I found this picture from that time, but he looks goofier than I remember...

Jonathan Penner from Naked Truth

I'm still not sure about that plan. But, thats all because of the tie vote thing. Maybe they were told that in a tie they'd ask for the II, but I would think they'd at least try a re-vote first. If they go by past Survivor re-vote rules, Candace and Jonathan would have sat out the vote, leaving 5 voters, with only the choice of Jon or Candace...so no possibility of a tie. I could be completely wrong, but every time they talk about the Idol rules, they always say that if the person with the highest # of votes has the II, the person 2nd in votes goes home. They don't ever mention a tie. But who knows with this show. And, I will admit that I've only been paying about half attention most of this season (heck, I didn't even know the premiere was on...I was flipping through channels and turned over just as they were going to TC), so I may have missed something. As it was, though, I'm glad Cao Boi went. Even half-watching, he was all over my last nerve. Now if they'll just do something with "Flicka".

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think they kidnapped Nate for a couple of reasons...

First off, during the Q&A period, Nate mentioned something about each of them surviving alone. I kinda took it as less of a team playing together and more like each man/woman for him/herself.

Second, the kidnapped person stays with the tribe THRU the reward challenge. Aitu hasn't won many rewards (although they have won immunity). So I thought choosing Nate was a good choice... he's one of their strongest men and could really add some strength to Aitu for the reward challenge. Since Nate also gets to enjoy the reward, he will likely not try to sabotage the competition for Raru either.

That said, the first thing I thought, too, was "kidnap Christine." But one thing WE know that Aitu doesn't... and that's what Raru was thinking right up to TC. I think kidnapping Christine would've thrown 'em into a bit of a mess, but I think then they would've just voted for Jenny (I deleted the show off my DVR before I saw the final confessional but someone else did vote for Jenny so they could've just gone with 2nd choice).

Cao Boi's fatal mistake (well, one among many) was to talk to Yul, who had also been to Exile Island. I think his plan was brilliant, but he wasn't as close to Yul as he had thought. Personally, I would've loved it had Jonathan had to use the II last night! And another mistake he made... outing his plan during Tribal Council. I think at that point, Yul made the final decision that CB was just too much of a wild card and couldn't be trusted to hold cards close to his chest, or keep his danged mouth shut.

I felt bad for him though. He really looked hurt that he got voted out.

Ccorces1
Member

08-08-2006

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ccorces1 a private message Print Post    
I've been trying to keep up the show on http://www.cbs.com/innertube It's been kind of tame so far. I still dig it, but I expected more controversy from the whole race thing.

Webchiq
Member

07-11-2005

Friday, October 20, 2006 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
Candice and Adam were snuggling all the time in the first few shows. They said it was to stay warm but they were flirting and always together. Everyone noticed it on their team. It wouldn't be a surprise that she was flirting with him at TC.

Jonathan has a voice very similar to Alan Alda, just a little deeper. I like his voice. He would make a great narrator.

Trueheart
Member

09-12-2006

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
A lot of posts were talking about how the voting would have gone had there been a 3/3 tie. I'm not really sure if somebody mentioned this already. I may have just missed it.

The minute that Cao Boi mentioned his plan I KNEW that Yul was not going to do it. I was absolutely POSITIVE. Hopefully this makes sense:

I didn't watch the first couple of episodes so I don't know who all went to exile island. If Yul would have gone along with this plan, Candice and Jonathan would each have gotten three votes. Probst asks if either of them have the II. Neither Candice or Jon have it to save themselves.

So everyone else, is going to come to the conclusion that Yul must have it! (like I said, I'm not sure who all went to exile island so I don't know who else they could suspect)

This would have been a horrible move for Yul. He would have exposed that he has the II and he would have kicked off one of the people he is aligned with. I think that Yul wants to keep it a secret that he has it. So therefore I KNEW he wouldn't go for Cao Boi's plan.

Trueheart
Member

09-12-2006

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
Even if Yul wasn't the only other one to have gone to exile island, Jonathan and Candice would have been off the II suspect list, narrowing it severely. So he would have been under HEAVY suspicion.

Yul has played a great game so far. He hasn't been involved in anything too dramatic, he's courteous, he's flown under the radar as a target even though HE IS A BIG PHYSICAL THREAT.

I was POSITIVE he wouldn't go along with the plan just to avoid all the focus it would bring to him and his game. Too risky.

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 12:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Trueheart, you're exactly right. Yul knew that as soon as Jonathan and Candice revealed that they didn't have the idol, everyone would realize Yul did. I just don't know why Cao Boi hadn't figured that out in the first place. When Jonathan said he knew the idol wasn't on Exile Island anymore because he knew where it would've been, that should've been the big clue that either Candice or Yul had it. Knowing how smart Yul is, Cao Boi shouldn't have assumed it wasn't him. I think that's the only reason Yul didn't go along with booting Jonathan or Candice, and not because he needed to protect his allies. He doesn't need both of them in his alliance now that he has Sundra, and they all seem pretty suspicious of Jonathan anyway. Yul just wanted to protect his secret.

The thing I noticed about Christina is that it seemed to be just Jenny and Adam who had a problem with her. The rest of them were kind of annoyed with Adam for even talking about it at TC and for arguing with her about it later. I think it was Nate who observed that if they kept Christina they needed to get rid of Jenny, which tells me it was mainly Jenny who couldn't get along with her. Then for Jenny to draw a gun shooting at her name...

Meanwhile all 5 original Raros remain in the game.

Spear
Member

08-06-2001

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
On Survivor Live, Cao Boi said he directly asked Yul if he had the Idol. Yul said no and Cao Boi believed him so that was that.

Biscottiii
Member

05-29-2004

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Re: Curlyq comment about Jenny vs. Cristina, I went back to CBS/Ep5 to be sure my memory was correct:

"Cristina dropped the bucket and there were pieces of octopus all over the water and that really bothered me. I don't know what she was thinking." Once the pieces of octopus are accounted for, Cristina pins fault on Jenny, who had been helping her. "She's going to blame me for dropping the octopus?" says Jenny, equally unhappy with Cristina. "Cristina is coming across as our new JP, so she better watch herself," Jenny warns. "

Thing was, at the time, I didn't understand why Cristina was yelping HelpMe! HelpMe! HelpMe! The sea water didn't seem to be swirling that fast and she could just keep retrieving octopus pieces on her own. Why was she in such need of help? Almost seemed like she was pushing the envelope @ Jenny. Maybe that animosity was even stronger than it looked. Also, maybe the players realized that, because of physical strength, Cristina was more useful in the challenges so Jenny was working them hard to get her voted out. ETA, BTW it was Adam who had caught the octopus.

Trueheart
Member

09-12-2006

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
I'm really loving this season!!! And to think I wasn't even going to watch it! LOL

Most other seasons I single one or two people out as my utmost FAVORITES!!! This is a BAD idea because most times they have a very small chance of winning. And they usually don't...which is depressing.

But this season I like so many players. I like Candice, Jonathan, Yul, Becky, Sundra and Adam. And I like players on either team which is nice because than I am happy no matter which team wins a challenge. Although lately I have wanted RARO to win an Immunity challenge. I just hate to see one team lose SO MANY TIMES! It's demoralizing!

p.s. My sister has commented so many times on the fact that they have a PLETHORA of food this season! They are never hungry. LOL I don't think I've even heard them say the phrase "I am starving" EVER!

I wonder if they didn't want them losing so much weight. Maybe it is bad publicity to show them so waif like. I know I couldn't stand to even LOOK at DANNI on the Guatamala season. She was WASTING AWAY to nothing. UGH! It was gross!

Seamonkey
Moderator

09-07-2000

Saturday, October 21, 2006 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I never enjoyed watching people starve. Africa was one of the worst seasons for that.

Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 3:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
ITA agree with you Seamonkey. Even in the early seasons when they would give them rice, they would waste away which was hard to watch.

I remember an interview with Jeff before this season started where he said there would be so much food on these islands, no one would go hungry.



Snee
Member

06-26-2001

Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 10:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snee a private message Print Post    
i thought the gun 'shooting' at cristina's name on the tribal council card was way out of line. it was disgusting actually. i wasn't a big cristina fan, but sheesh.