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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 10:46 pm
ITA with your assessment Oregonguy. But that is what is best for Jonathan THIS WEEK. That's my only problem. Two weeks ago, it was best for him to betray those very people. I think he needs to sort of stick to a plan. Mind you, this game changes, and you need to adapt to those changes too. Total rock and a hard place. The thing is, with Jonathan playing so hard, if he makes it to the F2, there are plenty of times where we've seen the GAMER rewarded over the nice person on many shows. So he could be doing the right thing in that sense.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 12:41 am
I think Jonathan already screwed up his game with the mutiny. No, wait. He screwed up before that, because the Aitu tribe had already grown suspicious of him. However, it's possible he thought this way he could undo the damage of the mutiny. Since Raro had gotten on his nerves with their laziness and stubbornness about going after Yul, it's not too surprising he'd take the opportunity to rejoin Aitu. Nate was such a hypocrite with that exit speech. Jonathan sold out his tribe? Hello! Nate sold out three members of his tribe, and two of them had been with him from the very beginning. To make things worse, he sold out two of them to keep Jonathan the Mutineer! On top of that he was ready to sell out everyone for Ozzie. He should've been making that vulgar speech to his reflection. Did he really think Jonathan owed more allegiance to him than he owed to Rebecca, Stephanie or Brad? Yul didn't come off as smug to me, unlike Adam. "You both can appreciate me." Oh, joy. Can we really?
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 3:47 am
IMO Jonathon just handed Yul the game on a silver platter.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 4:53 am
I think Ozzy is such a hoot - he should do well in these challenges, being half man half wild beast of the outdoors!
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 6:34 am
I believe what I said last week even more after the show last night. The Raro kids are not the brightest bulbs. I could not believe that they so adamantly ruled out the possibility that Yul might have the hidden idol. The guy went to exile island first & third, and none of them have been able to find it, but they wouldn't even consider it. I don't care for Johnathan, but I don't think he was wrong in going w/ Aitu. He didn't sign up w/ Aitu at first offer. He actually tried to discuss the "what if Yul has the idol" scenario w/ Raro, but since they wouldn't even discuss it, he had to make his own decision. I always love it when the arrogant, cocky team gets picked off by the quiet, unassuming team! Little Aitu is a perfect tribe; they're good at challenges, they're smart at strategizing, and they're loyal to each other, and a little lucky, too. They're like the dream team of Survivor. Hooray for Ozzy for winning immunity!! Oh, and applause for Becky for so diplomaticly pointing out that she's not like Candace & Parvati...
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 7:11 am
Was it Colby that won all the immunity challenges that season? I can see Ozzie doing the same thing. Johnny boy really didn’t have a choice. It was vote Yul’s way or he’d be gone. My biggest LOL moment was when Johnny threw out the thought that maybe Yul has the idol and he was adamantly shot down. They were so sure Yul didn’t have it. I’m glad to see Nate go and glad to see he was all ticked off. He didn’t play the smartest game, imo. He should have rid the team of both Candice and Jonathon….that was his ultimate downfall. It was a great episode. I feel a bit sorry for the jury because I have a feeling that Nate is a big whiner so they’ll have to listen to all his woe am I talk. I almost gave up on this season, glad I stuck it out. If there is a Survivor god the final 2 will be Yul and Ozzie.
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Pdxmom
Member
08-08-2006
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 7:24 am
Do you think Jonathan actually bought that Yul wants to take him to final 2, because he'd have a better chance against Jonathan? It will be quite interesting next week, to see who gets targeted next. I don't see anyone from Aitu ever flipping on their team...they've totally bonded. And with Yul still having that immunity idol in his pocket, it gives them the numbers. My only concern is for Ozzy. He's got the biggest target on his back, IMO, and Yul may decide that he can't compete against him and make a move to get him out before the immunity idol expires at the F4.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 7:28 am
I bought that Yul has every intention to take Jonathon to the f2. Why not, it would be his best move. Sure, he'll have to eventually screw his Aitu.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:07 am
I also worry for Ozzie...but maybe Jonathan's move last night will save Ozzie...They now have the numbers, so Ozzie will be safe while Aitu pagongs Raru. And gosh ul is a Super strong competitor as well, but I just don't see him ever going after Ozzie...
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:12 am
What a great episode! Nate totally had a case of "sour grapes". That was one of the worst exit speeches. It was his own darn fault for not getting ride of Jonathan when he had the chance. It was quite amusing when Candace/Adam totally dismissed Yul having the idol. Honestly that was really dumb.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:16 am
All Jonathan had to do was lie to Yul and vote for Yul, forcing him to play the idol. At that point, it's 4 to 4 and Jonathan's got a stronger alliance with the white folks Agreed that it would have been a great move to get the idol out of play...but I don't believe that "Jonathan's got a stronger alliance with the white folks" -- I would take Ozzie over Betty, Veronica and Jughead (LOL thanks Nick) anytime
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 8:18 am
I also would like to mention that Jonathan is a bit of a meathead wen he thinks that Adam and Candace do not have something going on...and when he thinks that Adam and Candace were there to save him (that's not how I saw it)
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 9:43 am
Where else but on a deserted island would Adam be considered hot? He better lap it up while he can.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 9:49 am
I wasn't sorry to see Nate go. When he made the comment to Ozzy(?) about who makes the decisions, I was ready to see him gone. I think Jonathan mean that he didn't see Adam and Candace as having something serious going on.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 9:49 am
Sally, 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 9:59 am
I was SO happy when I watched this with my brother very early this morning!! I'd have preferred that Adam went but Nate HAD his chances and failed to try to keep people who might have helped to break up this couple thing and this white alliance, which is still potentially there, and also failed to boot stronger players when it was possible. This was the best possible outcome, Ozzy winning his own immunity and Yul retaining the idol he had. I wish Jonathan didn't have the knowledge but I guess it had to be and at least he did vote with them. And I agree that those trying to label Yul and Becky's alliance as a yucky "all over each other" thing and use of hormones to influence and stay in the game deserved what Becky calmly pointed out.. not the same thing at all. I loved how happy Sundra and Ozzy were when they found out about Yul's idol and that Ozzy, while seeing a potential tie with Nate, was smart enough to stick with the Aitus.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:55 am
JU has nicknamed him Adumb...LOL
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Gonzilly
Member
07-09-2005
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:59 am
Sea, I am wondering if Ozzy saw that idol as also protecting him and he has to try and make sure it doesn't get used yet if it could help to save him later. If yul was forced to pull it out last night ozzy would lose nate still and the possible future help of the idol. Whatever the reason, Ozzy was smart to stick to his alliance.
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 12:12 pm
1. Didn't Nate actually vote against Jonathan instead of voting to oust Jenny last week? 2. If Adam doesn't have the idol, and Candace doesn't have the idol, and Jonathan doesn't have the idol, WHO do these geniuses think actually has the idol? The chickens, maybe? 3. Nate deserved to go just for the way he spelled "Yul". 4. Interesting show, but I think Adam has Survivor confused with "The Bachelor".
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 3:36 pm
Yul and Becky aligned early because they were both Korean. They said that they spoke the language but wouldn't. I am sure that they are just friends on the same team looking out for one another. I see them getting a good edit along with Ozzy.
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 3:56 pm
Bonbon....Adumb....hysterical!
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Forum_moderator
Moderator
01-01-2004
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 4:39 pm
OK, cute as it may be, please don't namecall,and that includes "Adumb". Any further references to this will be subject to moderation, Thanks!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 5:11 pm
I am glad Nate is gone. I always crack up at these people who are so outraged that they were betrayed by the very people they themselves were planning on betraying the next week.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 5:15 pm
I watched the CBS Morning Show and Nate wasn't on. Or did I miss him? Is he going to be on some other day? If he was on, could someone please fill me in on what was said? His exit speech after tribal council was the meanest, rudest I have ever heard. I really didn't like him, for all the reasons mentioned above.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Friday, November 24, 2006 - 5:26 pm
He's going to appear next week. Probably Monday. Glad to hear that others did not like him either. I did not like him because I think that somehow having his brother co-host a show on E! got him on the show.
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