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Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Survivor Cook Islands tribes rumored to be separated in a new way

Rumors circulating on the Internet suggest that the tribes for Survivor Cook Islands will be separated in an entirely different and somewhat controversial way. (Warning: Potential spoilers ahead about the game’s structure, but not about results.)

There have been persistent rumors, supported by photographs of challenges, that there will be four tribes at the start of the game. However, those won’t necessarily be dissolved immediately: instead, they’ll be split in brand-new way, “divided up into 4 groups by race, 5 white, 5 black, 5 hispanic, and 5 asian,” according to a rumor sent to both SurvivorFever.net and the True Dork Times.

At the end of last season, Jeff Probst said, “we’re hoping to do something that we’ve never done before in a huge way,” and the tribe split may allude to that. Of course, this isn’t really that different from last season, when the show separated tribes by sex and age for Survivor Panama. Splitting them by race may seem to be more controversial, but really is a no less arbitrary distinction than sex or age.

With the show debuting Sept. 14, the cast should be revealed on The Early Show sooner than later, and with that, we’ll probably have confirmation about this rumor’s validity.


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Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh shit. So there'll be more than 2 minorities at a time?

Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
that's the positive side of it Mocha, if it is true.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Last year was a disappointment when they made such a big deal about splitting up by age and sex, and then the split lasted only one week. Why even bother?



Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
hmmm ... don't know what I think about this ...

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, August 21, 2006 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
me either

Jan
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
well it is only a rumour and I wouldn't be surprised if it is a false one -

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
i do hope that the cast is more representative across racial lines.

Robok
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10-28-2003

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Robok a private message Print Post    
I just saw a CBS ad that said Jeff Probst will be on the early Show tomorrow to talk about this season.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
REALITY RACISM
IT might be the most divisive edition of "Survivor" yet, if it's true that contestants next season are being split up by race. The latest 'Net buzz has the CBS reality show pitting whites, blacks, Asians and Hispanics against each other. "It's pretty much confirmed," Realityblurred.com publisher Andy Dehnart told The Post. CBS honchos refused to comment. Whatever twist they've chosen will be announced tomorrow on "The Early Show." If they do play the race card, maybe they should talk to Donald Trump. He toyed with the idea for "The Apprentice" last year - only to back off amid the outcry.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
only positive I can say is at least there will be more than the token minority this season then.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, August 22, 2006 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
That means there will be 20 people to start the show.

So maybe up to 4 people will be booted the first episode....depending on if they play with 18 or 16.

....won't it only be controversial in how they portray each tribe? If everybody gets a fair shake in the editing...then it should be a non-issue.

Justalittlebean
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08-15-2003

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justalittlebean a private message Print Post    
My daughter has been telling me for days that they are dividing the tribes by race. I told her she's crazy. I ask her what her source was, and she said Survivor Sucks. LOL Long story short, she's right and I will never live this down. I do hope the editing is fair.



Jan
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Probst says it is true:

Survivor Cook Islands’ four tribes are separated by race

As rumored, the 20 cast members on Survivor Cook Islands are divided into tribes by their race. The tribes consist of white people, African-Americans, Asian-Americans, and Hispanic people, and were divided that way because of past criticism that the show was too white, according to host Jeff Probst.

Probst appeared on The Early Show and said, “The idea for this actually came from the criticism that Survivor was not ethnically diverse enough, because for whatever reason, we always have a low number of minority applicants apply to the show. So we set out and said, let’s turn this criticism into creative for the show. And I think it fits in perfectly with what Survivor does, which is, it is a social experiment, and this is adding another layer to that experiment which is taking the show to a completely different level.”

Later, he said, “Our original idea was simply to have the most ethnically diverse group of people on TV. It wasn’t until we got to casting and started noticing this theme of ethnic pride that you’re alluding to that we started thinking, wow, if culture is still playing such a big part in these people’s lives, that’s our idea. Let’s divide them based on ethnicity. So, yes, I think it’s very natural to assume that certain groups are going to have audience members rooting for them simply because they share ethnicity.”

Jeff also said, “I found it to be one of the freshest ideas we’ve had going back to the beginning of this show,” and later noted that the players themselves had “mixed” reactions. Oh, Jeff.

Harry Smith did his best to generate controversy, saying that he personally was “stunned” and “dismayed,” and that the show had “gone to far” with this “stunt to draw attention.” He was so excited that he spilled the news at the top of the 8 o’clock hour, saying that this is “the first that this word is out.” Uh, not quite. But first, we had to sit through a segment with newswoman Julie Chen talking about chalkboards being replaced with smart boards that, surprisingly, don’t require chalk.

By the way, about a year ago, Donald Trump said The Apprentice was considering dividing the teams by race, but then backtracked and said “I personally don’t like it, so it will never happen.” Now that Survivor is doing it, look for Trump to take credit and then split his teams by race next season, and claim his racially divided teams are the best ever.


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Ryn
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ryn a private message Print Post    
Videos

http://www.cbsmediagroup.com/survivorcookislands/

Jan
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Ryn has posted pictures and contestant names in the newly created Contestants thread

Jan
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
hmmm I saw some video of the contestants in action on the early show this AM and can I just say "Wowzie mama" for a couple - eg nathan from the black tribe( I think that was his name - the one with the dreds) and yul from the Asian tribe and the hunk with the curls from the Hispanic tribe (didn't catch his name)

Be still my heart!!

Tiernet
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06-07-2004

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tiernet a private message Print Post    
Think about the nice story angles.

First you need to boot within your own race. But the opportunities to form alliances could be by race. Then when merged how would/could this be played out... I can see why they did it this way.

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
New 'Survivor' Divides Groups by Race

LOS ANGELES - Get ready for a segregated "Survivor." Race will matter on the upcoming season of the CBS show as contestants will be divided into four tribes by ethnicity. That means blacks, whites, Latinos and Asians in separate groups.

The announcement was made on CBS' Early Show. Host Jeff Probst says the idea "actually came from the criticism that 'Survivor' was not ethnically diverse enough." He says the twist fits in perfectly with what "Survivor" does, saying the show is "a social experiment. And this is adding another layer to that experiment." Probst says contestants had mixed reactions to the racial divisions.

This time the new Survivors are stranded on the Cook Islands in the South Pacific. The castaways include a police officer, a heavy metal guitarist, an attorney and a nail salon manager. The new season of Survivor debuts September 14th.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Thanks all for the info! I caught just a bit about it on the early show and I got a phone call. So Kudos for all the info and Pictures

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I think it is going to be a bad move for CBS, they should have a couple from each race because I am sure someone is going to be not too happy about CBS "segregating people" Have they been to Cook's Island before?

Donut
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07-31-2001

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donut a private message Print Post    
they just scrolled the story on Fox news. I think its horrible, a stupid desperate move for ratings. To encourage pitting cultures against each other when society is trying so hard to do the opposite is just bad. That this is their answer to diversity is just insane. Plus it presents an image to the world that we condone segregation. They are probably wishing that they hadn't already announced the contestants so they could switch to doing a Hezbollah soldiers vs. Orthodox rabbis, vs. Iranian nuclear scientists, vs. Will and Janelle for a show with even higher ratings :-(

Kaili
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
.....vs. Will and Janelle? LOL You know they'd win. :-)

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I think their teams ought to be split up by what part of the country they come from. Then, maybe, there would not be such a glut from Los Angeles!

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Wednesday, August 23, 2006 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bastable a private message Print Post    
Rumor has it that something like 9 of these castaways are LA actors. The casting people continue to dredge a shallow pool.