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Max
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08-12-2000

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
So far, I'm liking it. We FINALLY have more than one non-white player in this game. It's way past due for this to happen, IMHO. The division along racial lines? Well, that remains to be seen whether it's a good idea or just a ratings ploy. From what I gather, it won't last for very long, so I'm thinking it's more of a ratings ploy, but we'll see.

The Asian group is definitely interesting because they are such a "mixed bag" of cultures, some of which have long-standing cultural clashes in thier history -- as in warfare, invasions, etcetera. The addition of Cao Bai being a Vietnamese refugee as opposed to the others who apparently grew up in America, makes it very interesting. I hope he doesn't get the boot too early because I think he adds some flavor to the mix that I'd miss.

The African American (I prefer the term 'black' because that's what was appropriate when I was in my 20s, but. . .) team talking about their need to "represent" was a dead giveaway that they would be first to lose. These shows are so predictable in that way! I do think they nailed it on the head when one of them said something about how they all are strong-willed and want to do things their own way. Teamwork at this stage of the game is extremely important and lack of that is what cost them the challenge. I hope now that Sekou is gone they can establish a pecking order that lets them work together more effectively.

It's hard to get a good overview of everyone early in the game. This week's show seemed to concentrate mostly on the Asian and African-American groups. Or maybe it's just that those are the ones I remember the most. :-)

I don't much care about the racial division except that it does give a broader diversity to the cast than we've ever had before and gives us a chance to see how much cultural differences are perceived versus real in this type of environment. :-)

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    

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IMO you should only be "African American" if you are an African citizen who has become an American citizen. If you've never been to Africa, your parents have never been to Africa, your grandparents have never been to Africa and so on how can you be African American? Aren't you just American?




No we aren't just "American". It's all about having pride in where you come from. And since the majority of the black folk here in America didn't have a choice in coming here and can't trace their roots back to their original country or tribe we are African American, period. It's also about never forgetting where we come from.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
The doorag or tirbune(i had to google that word and came up with nothing lol) is just for style and as Lum said probably to keep the sun off the skin. I've seen plenty of white people wear them too though.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Also, "black and white" are colors not races, I just use them to save keystrokes.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
Thanks Lumbale, I like Rebecca too I hope she goes far. The white team does nothing for me. I like the Aisan team too, but they don't really show much about the Hispanic team yet. I tried the same thing too Mocha, and I got nothing, I haven't seen any white people wearing them just AA men & women.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Thanks for that explanation on the significance of the A.A. name. I never knew the reasons behind it.



Ummm....this may sound racist or ignorant, but I'll ask anyways. Is anyone from Canada? Western Canada? I'm wondering if the Asian team was more interesting to the American posters here, due to novelty. I live in Vancouver and we have a HUGE HUGE HUGE "Asian" population. I don't find them novel, and I am not "drawn" to the Asian team on the show. However, we have very few Latino or African (Canadian) people up here (there are more out east). I found those teams more interesting, and I'm wondering if the novelty of each culture plays a role in the teams we like.

Anyone's thoughts?

Snee
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06-26-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snee a private message Print Post    
i think that's an interesting point, eeyore, but it doesn't apply to me (vancouver islander, lived in van. for 7 years). while i am drawn to the novelty of cultures i am not as familiar with, i was still drawn to the asian team. i think it had to do more with the editing at this point. cao boi was very entertaining and the rest of the tribe seemed cool. yul is hot! but...we're sooo early on here.... (also, i'm probably drawn because my daughter is asian!)

i really liked the african american team too, but again, we saw more of them this episode.

i am interested to see more of the latino team. the caucasian team doesn't interest me at this point, except for flicka a bit. and i was turned off by adam and candice (?) cuddling up a storm.

Janetplanet
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09-15-2006

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Janetplanet a private message Print Post    
Greetings to you all. I am new to this forum so please put up with me until I get familiar with everything. I have seen every Survivor since its inception and enjoy it immensly - thus I signed up to participate. I did follow the postings during Big Brother, but was not a member. Hope that I can contribute to this.

Retired
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07-11-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Retired a private message Print Post    
Welcome, Janet!

By any chance are you an All My Children fan (Janet from another planet)?
Is that where you got your user name?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Welcome Janet! I'm sure you'll enjoy it here.

Regee
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10-09-2005

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Regee a private message Print Post    
Welcome Janet:

Pull up a chair and get comfy cause you are now home :-).

(Retired) Giggle, that is my favorite soap, and me thinks Janet from another planet killed Dr. Madden!

Regee
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10-09-2005

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Regee a private message Print Post    
Janet:

Just looked at your profile and there is a WONDERFUL area about pet's, its in the General Dis. area on the main page, 3rd down on the left and click on it then go to HAIRBALL HAVEN.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
that was the first thing I thought of also...I havent thought of her since the 80's LOL

Maris
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03-28-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Coming from NY there is no ethinic group that is novel to me. I like the idea of dividing up the tribes along racial lines, if only because they have pretty much done division every other way.

While I realize they have divided tribes along racial lines I really dont think in terms of racial lines when looking at the players, for example, I knew who was going to be evicted (oops big brother creeping in here), voted out.

My question is when will reality game players realize that at the beginning of the game, do not be the loudest, most vocal and most insistent, because it is a sure ticket home.

Janetplanet
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09-15-2006

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Janetplanet a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the welcome - My name isn't from All my Children - my name came from my husband calling me this when we were hippies (maybe once a hippie always a hippie - except we have paid a lot of taxes). Again, thanks for the welcome. I got a phone call during the first episode of Survivor and normally wouldn't have taken it, but unfortunately it was my mother's pastor and my mother is in a nursing home and at the end of her life. I thought it might be rude if I didn't take that call. So last night I replayed what I missed on the computer - it wasn't the same but it sure helped fill in the blanks. I missed the part where the chicken got away. The cuddle puddle was a little much for just beginning, usually it takes a little while for them to get that close, but oh well!! Let the season begin. I did feel bad personally that the first person to go was black - I just didn't want the bad press stuff to be a prophecy fulfilled.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Mocha and Sheilaree - I think the work meant was "turban" _ which should come up on Google.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I am in Alaska along with a hugely diverse population. We have everyone here. None of the black people I know though call themselves African American; they are just Americans and proud to be that.

I love Cao Boi the most so far. His headache cure was amazing. I am new to eastern medicine and awed by what it can do.

I knew Sekou would be the first one out as soon as they showed him having to take a break. These guys should know by now that they don't take breaks when there's work to be done unless the whole group does. And, then when the two black men pulled aside to make the tribe's decision for them without consulting the women he sealed his fate. Don't those guys know by now that women are not going to take the backseat ever again? The girls didn't say anything, which was smart, but they took care of business at first opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me to see the other man voted out at their next tribal. Those are 3 strong, smart women; they don't need him.

Lumbele
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07-12-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lumbele a private message Print Post    
Welcome, Janetplanet! Glad you decided to join us and hope to see you around the board often. I am very sorry to hear about your mother.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh ok Tnt lol. Eeyore, I'm more drawn to the black folks for obvious reasons lol as well as the other minority groups cuz I'm just glad to finally have a bigger group of them. That's more indicative of how I've grown up.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Lol ok I have to get this out, dammit Janet! Lol I love Rocky Horror. Welcome Janet.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I did that too, tnt but nothing thanks. Welcome Janet. Regee alos I think it was Janet from another planet who killed Madden. Won't be surprised either.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL Mojo!

Welcome Janet, I am sorry to hear about your mom.

Lardbrick
Member

01-16-2006

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 5:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
Finally! There are intelligent people writing super interesting comments.
Thanks!
I have found everyone's opinions and comments very insightful. Not only do I learn but my mind is further expanded.
Please keep it up, I'm sure there are more like me reading too.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Unless I'm not understanding your question -- Hawaii is part of the United States. The Philippines is in Asia.

As you can see by this map, the Philippines is most definitely closest to the Asian continent:
Asia map



Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, September 16, 2006 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I think the "original" Hawaiians came from Bora Bora - or at least that is my best recollection of What James Mitchener wrote - so is Bora Bora Asian?

Nashville is NINETEEN percent first generation immigrants so we have lots of Asians, Hispanics, Africans (from Nigeria principally) here, as well as the largest Kurdish population in the US!! Nashville was THE major recruiting spot for Arabic speakers to do translations and such for the middle eastern war!

Just as an interesting experiment, go look at a map of the US and try to figure out why we have such a HUGE immigrant population! Do you see any borders or seacoasts near us? Even though we are puzzled why we are so popular here, we LOVE the wonderful diversity of cuisines and cultures that we enjoy!