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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:56 pm
Rehtse, I have no idea Maybe they should have a new category: "brown"! I have no idea why they categorize people like they do. 
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Spoton
Member
09-16-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 12:59 pm
But those are all government "labels" you are referring to. What about the anthropological end of it? I'm still wondering how race is taught today in school.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:00 pm
Spoton, when I took Anthropology in college 14 years ago (yikes it's been that long?), the prof. broke it down into those three groups.
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Spoton
Member
09-16-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:08 pm
Thanks, Rehtse! It's been 35 years for me, so I wasn't sure if/how race is even described!!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:12 pm
Julie, that is so weird! re: Latinos having to choose as Black or White. Yet they allowed some Taiwanese to insists on a different category so they don't have to check "Chinese"! (I think it's Pacific Rim or something like that, Julie please correct me!)
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Dolphinschild
Member
06-22-2006
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:16 pm
Cndeariso It is family descent/ ancestors that are where the races are formulated... Not where the person is born. Such as Charline Theron might have been born in South Africa, but her ancestors might have come from Switzerland, so that makes her a Swiss not an African. I was born am American, but my family heritage and race comes from Italy and a few other places in Europe. So the race is not according to where you were born, but where your ancestors or family heritage came from... ETA: Race is always considered bloodline, not place born. That is why in history, you can have a black person born and look completely white, and they will still be considered black. This is what they catagorize race.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:18 pm
I guess I'm a Mutt-American because my ancestors came from all over the place.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:18 pm
N_T, I'm too lazy to check, but I believe the Philippinos on Asian team may have Spanish-origin name as well. You know about the occupancy by Spain years ago, right? They(Philippinos and South Americans) shared the same history in that aspect,
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:23 pm
Eeyore -- I think you might be on to something re: my boredom with the show. I think it might be the superficial look we have with four teams, and also that we have just one challenge per episode -- less chance for action/drama/conflict. ------- The newspaper here had some problems with its use of "African-American." People from the Dominican Republic, the Caribbean, etc. were saying that phrase didn't describe them accurately at all, so the paper now uses "black." In my opinion, the trouble with any of these labels is that they are just labels. We trying to group diverse people into the most-convenient terms and the easiest definitions. I understand why official documents would need some kind of categorization, but gosh, I would love to see a day when we didn't have to "label" anybody anything. It's like Dr. Seuss' star-bellied sneeches (anyone remember that story?). ------ On a related note, I was watching a recent episode of the Contender and the Mexican boxer was getting pumped up for the fight. His trainer told him to win it "for his race" and when he did win, he shouted "para la raza!" (for the race) It occurred to me how insane a white person would seem yelling this. You would look like a white supremacist! Just an observation, I guess. wow! super long post! sorry!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:23 pm
Chy, my son's dr. is from the Phillipines but his last name is Ramos and he and his wife have Spanish/Latin/Hispanic/Whatever features, although you can see a touch of Asian in his wife. ETA: Delilah, ITA.
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Dolphinschild
Member
06-22-2006
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:25 pm
Yes Chy, the Spanish conquered the Philippino's and mixed with the race as well. Like the Mexican race is mixed between the Aborigine's, Spanish and French.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:26 pm
I totally lost interest in last nights show when they decided to throw the immunity challenge. I dont want to watch a season of teams throwing competitions to get rid of people on their teams. That is what started Big brother down that road to dulldom.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:29 pm
I hope that throwing the competition really comes back to bite them in the butt. JP's hot meter bottomed out last night.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 1:34 pm
NT...I'm with you on that one!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 2:27 pm
Many Filipinos have Spanish names because the Spaniards forced the adoption of those names, not because of intermarriage with Spaniards. There is some Spanish "blood" in many Filipinos but it's small compared to Malay and probably even Chinese contributions. There is a lot more Spanish blood in the Filipino upper class, though.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 2:28 pm
<--- has red blood
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 2:49 pm
I think it was stupid to throw a challenge, but I can't say I'm sorry to see Billy go. I also think it would have piled stupid on stupid if they had voted out Ozzy. I know he is grating on Cristina's nerves, but why would you EVER vote out someone like Ozzy when you still need him in the challenges and to help get food? Besides, I still think he's kinda cute.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 2:49 pm
<----melting pot mutt
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 4:29 pm
Maybe I'm not good at this...I know what I'm trying to say but am having trouble getting it out in the post. And sorry Mods...I was only quoting Flicka on the show. I don't know...guess its the conspiracy theorist in me. Or better yet...I'll give it a few more episodes and try again.
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Oldtex
Member
03-06-2006
| Friday, September 22, 2006 - 10:07 pm
NT, thanks for giving me a description of how to describe myself - Mutt-American! I just love that.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 1:08 am
I wonder if next season, people will think to send weak players to Exile Island, OR send a strong ally over to LOOK for the immunity idol? As for throwing a comp and sending Billy home, perhaps they are thinking ahead and don't think he would be loyal after a merge (which is going to come VERY soon), or don't want him to make the jury? Another term I've heard used is anglo, which would mean origin from British isles.. my background is THAT boring.. England, Scotland, Ireland, Isle of Man.. have to go WAY back to find someone from Switzerland or Germany, I mean like 1500's. As for the use of African-American, I had a friend from Trinidad who took great exception to being referred to as AA. She would sigh and mutter "American blacks" at times. I was also excited to see the black women stick together and their tribe seems much more cohesive now. Love the asian team, esp Yul and Cau Boi, like the roller girl and her hair , "white" tribe.. well that one guy arguing against having a platform! LOL.. someone blogged about how crazy was THAT? Maybe Sandra? I mean that illogic was stunning. This isn't season one and even if it was, being stranded on an island, you'd soon realize that there are lots of bugs and critters out there and a platform is a GOOD thing. Also in the blogs it sounds like the former survivors are saying that perhaps only three people were actual applicants, Cao Boi being one. Most were recruited. I'm guessing that Erika wasn't involved in casting for this season, probably a good thing, since she seems to think the viewers want bikini babes and muscle men.
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 3:37 pm
Cao Boi is giving these people a hickey between the eyes and calling it a miracle. I'd SAY my headache was gone to get him to leave me alone.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 5:36 pm
Maybe they just don't notice their headache anymore because the ugly red mark is hurting worse LOL.
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Snee
Member
06-26-2001
| Saturday, September 23, 2006 - 9:50 pm
regarding the platform: it seems like adam has never seen an episode of survivor before. platforms are pretty much the norm. plus, his attitude about it stunk. on toast.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 10:36 am
It does sound like Adam doesn't know anything about Survivor. Anyone who has watched any season of Survivor would get the heebie geebies from all those creepy crawlies that are on the ground at night.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 1:45 pm
Adam must have been one of the "recruits" to the show. I'd bet many of them did not regularly watch the show. This weeks Entertainment Weekly had a great "behind the scenes" article about this season (and the first boot). Unfortunately, it's not posted at the website yet. From memory (I'm at work without the magazine): Notified May 26th. Checked into hotel in LA under assumed names. Given $100/day perdiem at hotel. Left LA in June. No talking. 9 hours on the first plane 3 hours on the second. No talking. Finally on the island divided into two groups for "training". Hadn't had this training offered for a few years (has Mark Burnett gone soft???). Billy made fire rather quickly in training. One of the girls in the African-American tribe was being attached by the mosquitos without mercy (despite long clothing and bug spray). Last day posed for publicity pictures and interviews (finally allowed to talk, but still not to eachother). One-on-one discussion with producers about tribal division planned. One unidentified (may be allowed back on another season) person sent home (they had 21 people at training camp). Morning of the start, divided tribes and sent out on zodiacs. Everyone got seasick and lost their breakfast. First boot goes back to basecamp that has been transformed from bootcamp to a tropical getaway. Computer games, DVDs, books, showers, real bedding replaced the outhouses and cots. Oh, he lost 7# over 3 days (but in reading the description of his meals at base camp, probably gained weight before going home at the end of the month).

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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Sunday, September 24, 2006 - 1:49 pm
Plus, when the rains come the damp ground is not good/healthy to lay down on all night . They did mention in the promos that some of this year's people had not been Survivor watchers. (Or campers it would seem)
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