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Archive through December 07, 2006

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Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
I hope the Aitu 4 don't turn on each other. That would be a shame.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LMAO at Jonathan's goodbye comments... bitter some, dude? What did you think? That those left want to hear you yammer on and on and on and on and on...???? Hehehe

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I think it was a dumb move to get rid of Jonathan. As annoying as he may have been, he was still the "parachute" for each and every single one of them.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Westtexan a private message Print Post    
Ozzy!! Ozzy!! Ozzy!! Ozzy!! Wow what a player!

I think Yul is so handsome. My kind of guy.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Please, please, please just let my Ozzy keep winning immunity or he's gone.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Thanks so much for spoiling, Raenstorm. I don't get the show for 3 more hours here and I love your spoils.

YIPPEE KAI YI YEA!!!!

Yep it was a dumb move but I'm so glad I don't have to look at him or listen to him anymore.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I want an Ozzy win as much as I wanted a Colby win in S2. The most deserving! Not saying that Terry wasn't deserving in his season - he just had folks on the jury that did not like him.

If Ozzy doesn't win this thing than I want Yul to win.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
Well, one strategy could be getting rid of Adam next, but then the dreaded "female alliance" rears its head with Sundra, Parvati, and Becky to get rid of one of the strong males, probably Ozzy since Becky wouldn't vote out Yul(I don't think). Then the immunity idol doesn't mean anything in the final 4.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I didn't like Terry.

A female alliance would be interesting. I wouldn't mind seeing that happen.

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Knightpatti a private message Print Post    
Why did they vote off Johnathan and keep Adam? Adam could easily win immunity again. I do not think Johnathan was a threat for the challenges. Now who will they send to Exile Island without Johnathan? I strongly dislike how Nate and Candice acted on the jury. Candice and Adam just seem to act better than everyone else. Wow Parvarti won the challenge with the hurt thumb! Love when the families come. Also enjoyed the village people and the ceremony. Now that was a reward!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Guess I am the only Jonathan fan. I liked him a lot.

I think all the others were so wrong to lie to him when he asked point blank who was going. Then Sundra gets all "isn't that what we already said?" on him.

They (Yul, Oz, Beck, Sun) were all so foolish to get rid of him before Adam. Hope it bites them in the butt.

I think Nate and Candace looked very immature and bratty with their looks and mouthing "good job."

Not sure who I would like to see gone next. I think I'd like to see Adam start winning the immunity challenges for at least the next few times.

Somehow I still like Yul. Lost respect for Becky when she lied to Jonathan. Wouldn't have cost her a thing to be truthful to him. Plus it might have resulted in him voting for her in the end (should she make it that far.)

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
Sundra made a decision that might hurt her in the long run in ignoring Jonathan and voting him off. Maybe not in this GAME, but in her career.

Sundra's a struggling actress. Jonathan is not only a fairly successful actor but he's also married to a TV/movie director and producer. Jonathan also has screen credits as a producer and a screenwriter. Both Jonathan and his wife (Stacy Title) have also been Academy Award nominees for their film Down On The Waterfront in 1994. Those are contacts that a struggling actress should want as friends. She blew her chance.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Just because she voted him off doesn't mean that he will hold the grudge when this is over. We've seen many times where the contestants have become close once the show is done.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I think Jeff looked very sexy tonight.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
A mature person, once given time to cool down, will reward good game play, rather than hold a grudge. I like Jonathan, and he was an absolute gamer. I think he will realize that TELLING him ahead of time would have been a bad move, because he would have started to try to find other options; the ultimate compliment, if you ask me. TELLING someone they're going, means you don't believe they can beat you, and your plan is air tight.

They were smart to not tell Jonathan, because he would have FOR SURE flipped the script again. Later, if he asks in jury questioning, it's a simple answer: "I couldn't tell you, or you would have mobilized to switch the vote, and it would have been ME voted out."

If Jonathan is the gamer that I think he is, he will respect anyone who made moves because it secured THEIR OWN place further in the game.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
Julie, I like Jonathan also. I think he wouldn't have made it as far as he did if he wasn't so smart. His biggest mistake was following Candice in the mutiny, and he later admitted it was a mistake. However, like Ozzy says, he's got a very strong personality that's hard to take at times. But he was a worker most of the time, and he was very honest and insightful when sizing up the rest of the players.

I also don't know why so many people don't like Parvati. She doesn't work around camp, granted, but she's a good competitor, and she's also very honest about how she's playing, and who she likes/doesn't like. I like players like that.

I thought it was pretty funny that right after the 3 Aitu folks decided to hide their food, that Adam, Parvati, and Sundra came back with a feast for them. Funny because I agreed with Ozzy that they should have to contribute in getting food if they expected to eat, and then I also felt bad as a viewer when that chicken dinner was presented to them.

I also like the 'relatives come visit' episodes. Sundra's reaction to her mom was the most emotional one I can remember, while Becky's reaction to her sister wasn't very emotional at all. Becky seems to be able to keep everything at arms length...that would make her a great lawyer.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, I liked Jonathon too he was pure entertainment for me. He was my favorite to hear talk and strategize and fidget during his confessionals, thankfully Jonathon has a vocabulary that doesn’t consist of solely 2 syllable words (Yul does too and Becky probably doe too but she's barely shown talking). Jonathon worked everyday on that island and connived everyday and basically played both teams and lasted about 3 weeks longer than he should have. I’ll miss that traitor.

Adam's grin creeps me out and Parv snuggling up and stealing kisses from Candace and Adam was a bit too icky, considering it was done on TV.

I so wanted Yul and Jonathan in the F2 so that the pity party jury would have to choose after threatening Yul that they'd never vote for Yul if he keeps Jonathon around. That won’t happen now.

So, now I'm all about Ozzie taking home that million dollars!!!

Go Aquaman!

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
There's a difference between voting someone off and talking behind his back and then ignoring him entirely when you decide to vote him out. Voting is easily forgivable, since it's a game. The other is more difficult to forgive especially when it's on tape for all to see. I'm guessing you'll never see Sundra Oakley in a Stacy Title or Jonathan Penner production.

Plus you always try to keep someone that is an easy target in the game as long as possible for two reasons. One is if you're lucky enough to get into the final three and win the final immunity challenge you take Jonathan to the final TC. Secondly, you keep him in the game to divert attention away from you. Next week if Ozzie flips and Becky or Yul wins immunity Sundra will have to win the tie-breaker to stay in the game. Dumping Adam over Jonathan would have guaranteed Sundra (and Becky) safety for at least another week. Now Yul is the only person truly safe next week.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
If Jonathan is the gamer that I think he is, he will respect anyone who made moves because it secured THEIR OWN place further in the game.

I agree. But dumping Jonathan DOESN'T secure Sundra's place in the game, it might actually hurt it. Dumping Jonathan only secured Adam & Pavarti place in the game. It also may help Becky's chance to go to the final two. I see no way that it helps Sundra's chances.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Dang dang dang, Aitu! Do they really think Adam and Parv are going to help them in any way? The first reason to get rid of these 2 is that the jury is stacked on their side. All they have to do is keep winning the immunities and Aitu doesn't stand a chance of winning in the end. Dang it!

But I did really enjoy the competition with the family members participating - lots of fun to watch.

Anyone else think getting rid of Jonathan had to do with the talk Becky and Yul had last week and his confidence in being one of the F2 without ever mentioning her in it?

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I disagree. I think it does help Sundra in making F4 at least. After Yul running off at the mouth last week, I'm sure it entered Sundra's mind that Jonathan could easily replace her or Ozzy in the Aitu F4. Sundra knows she's not good at challenges, so I think it was smart of her to take out anyone that could easily slide in as the "ideal" F2 opponent. Perhaps she sees this as her role ...

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Why do professional poker players wear sunglasses and visors?

Because other people know when they are being lied to, and once they know you are lying to them, they can work it to their advantage. If I have a bad poker face, I'd ignore the person I needed to lie to as well, so they couldn't see it written all over my face.

I am at school, and I'm just going by the spoilers right now. I'll see the show tomorrow night after my exam is over.


I really like how Jonathan talks about the "energy shifting" at camp. I think that is a real thing, that we've never seen acknowledged on previous seasons. I've always wondered how people could NOT KNOW, when they spend 24 hours a day with each other.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Very good point Ladytex - identifying that inevitable "shift" from keeping GOOD people around for your survival, to keeping BAD people around to win against in F2. Good for her if that is why she did it.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I agree w/ladytex: Sundra IS the underdog of her alliance - don't let anyone slide in & take your F4 spot.

Adam's dad is too HOT! I'm 49 & I like seeing good looking men in my age range!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, December 07, 2006 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Interesting.

Getting rid of Jonathan is going to do nothing but give Adam and Parvati the edge and wedge they were looking for...not good for Aitu, especially from the previews for next week.