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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, October 27, 2006 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
At an extremely physical Reward Challenge, a Survivor collapses out of exhaustion, leaving the burden of completing the challenge to their other tribemates.

One Survivor confronts another about their choice to sit out of the physical portion of the Reward Challenge, blaming the loss on them. How will this decision affect their position in the game?

With little shelter available, a raging storm makes one Survivor's trip to Exile Island a nightmare.

One Survivor brings a seabird back to camp after having caught it with their bare hands. Can they convince their fellow tribe members that their strength around camp is an asset or will they quickly make themselves a target?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Reward Challenge Speculation as posted over at Survivor Fever:
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Episode 7: RC - Pole Walking and Zipline

RC involves taking piles of balance poles from start area and erecting them vertically into base pole holes to allow climbing on balance poles to zipline tower platform. Two members of each tribe (Parvati/Brad for Raro, Ozzy/Becky for Aitu) then zip down over beach...into water landing. A floatable puzzle bag is retrieved from water challenge structure and swam back to beach, climb rope webbing back up to zipline tower platform for puzzle assembly. First tribe to assemble puzzle correctly wins Reward. Unknown what reward is, but possibly food of some kind.

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NuRaro climbs balance poles. ID (l to r) Rebecca/Jenny/Parvati

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Ozzie starts zipline from tower platform while Becky and JP look on. Note handhold rope (used for balance pole climb) angled down and backward from platform. Also note puzzle table in front of Becky (who possibly has swim goggles On.

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Brad on zipline. Note sitout (Jonathan?) on bench at right

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Parvati on zipline

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Ozzie releasing from zipline at end of ride. Ginger Note: there is no 'baton' in his hands for tile smashing - and the tile smashing is considered to be the IC.

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Ozzie arriving at zipline terminal. Note color coded float bags in water beyond zipline structure.

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Ozzy throws floatable red puzzle bag ahead and swims "like a Dolphin' as per Jeff Probst back to beach.

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Becky(?)(w/swim goggles?) climbs up rope webbing to zipline tower platform w/red floatable bag. Note Jonathan cheering from below on sidelines (visible just above Becky's(?) head).

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Nathan as sitout (?) reaction pic at RC(?)...note zipline(?) in background behind Nathan.

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Candice and Jessica possibly celebrating Aitu Reward (food) win?
Ginger Note: Remembering that they still have to solve a puzzle, Raro might still win, and this picture could be CBS Misdirection.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Immunity Challenge Speculation as posted at Survivor Fever:
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Episode 7: IC - Tile Smash

The tile smash must be the IC because there are 6 red Aitu tiles and since Nate is kidnapped thru the RC (and will be competing w/Aitu), there would only be 5 tiles if this were really the RC. So the theory goes...Nate returns to Raro and competes in the IC tile smash where there are 6 tiles (Raro tribal count).

Cast start from beach. Possible barrel roll along color coded 'rails' at some point (either first or after tile smash). Cast runs w/baton, then swim out to tile tower...climb up and have to jump out to try and smash a tile. 6 tiles are shown for each tribe. First tribe to smash all 6 tiles wins Immunity.
Unsure of the involvement of the color coded barrels...there must be some purpose for them...either before or after the tile smash. Maybe before.

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Rebecca at baton beach start - note teammates Parvati & Adam in background). Also note barrel. Unsure what it's purpose is... (barrel roll along color coded 'rails'?)

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Candice headed out to tile smash platform w/baton in hand. Note buff at midriff and tile smash structure in the background

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Ozzy at Beach tile smash start. Note baton in hand and also the color coded barrels at start. Unsure what their purpose is.......(barrel roll along color coded 'rails'?)

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Candice hitting (partial smash) a red Aitu tile. Note that the red tile to Candice's image-right is already partially broken. The support ropes seem to thread along the backside and be attached at 4 locations (2 per rope?)

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Ozzy(?) smashing red Aitu tile

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Tile smashing platforms

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Aitu's tile smashing platform, Ozzy on board

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Yul smashing a tile

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Ozzy returning (wet) from tile smash turn. Note Parvati in background w/baton by blue 'rail'. Red 'rail' also visible...(rails possibly used in 'barrel roll'? at start?)

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Also, Ozzy returns wet from tile smash swim, with Parvati in background and you can see the tile smash structure in background behind Ozzy.

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Possible barrel roll along color coded 'rails' at some point (either first or after tile smash) or possibly is a future challenge.

Fifth Exile: Unknown
Boot: Rebecca and Jenny are most vulnerable for this Episode.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ginger! Great stuff!

Suz
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Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Suz a private message Print Post    
Thank you Ginger. You are so good at finding these things.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, October 28, 2006 - 11:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay.......put it in reverse, and back up .... things have changed.

I noticed this afternoon that TDT (True Dork Times) had the challenges in the opposite order of what's posted above. It's based on a picture of Nate showing up for a challenge with the Aitu Tribe (remember, he was kidnapped) and you can see Johnathan in the background in a beige shirt. Nate is only with Aitu through the RC, so Johnathan in beige shirt is RC, and Johnathan in dark brown shirt is the IC. I also noticed that the posters over at Survivor Blows (which I think has just about the best analysts out there), were leaning in that same direction.

I didn't post what I found until just now because I was waiting to see if Survivor Fever would change with this new information, and they have.

So: Tile Breaking is RC
And: Zip Line with Puzzle Solving is IC

I'll get more pictures and information tomorrow and post again........

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Good Morning....this is the latest over at Survivor Fever showing that they originally had the two challenge turned around. They now say the Tile Smash is the RC because of the appearance of Nate with the Aitu Tribe.

Episode 7: RC - Tile Smash

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Flica is sitting out a challenge. From this cap, it's clear someone else is sitting out with her.
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And from the color of the shirt, it's clear that it is Nate sitting out with her.

We can also see them both in the background of the side shots. Given that Nate stays with Aitu through the next RC, this must be the RC.
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Ginger Note: [I had to cut and crop this one since it was so wide and there were 4 frames spliced together. I'm just giving you the 4th frame which shows Ozzie just running by (close to the camera) and Parvati would be running into the picture a little further away if I had picked up more of the picture. Then you can see Nate and Flicka (blurry, but they have been identified) on the bench next to where Parvati is fixing to run by.]

Given that Aitu already has one more person than Raro and also has the kidnapped Nate then it makes sense that Aitu would sit two people out.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay........here's another picture showing what I meant about Ozzie closer to the camera, and Parvati in the other lane running against him. Parvati is just fixing to pass by the "sit-out" bench, and that is where Nate and Flick are sitting.
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Over at TDT, the pictures I saw yesterday showing that the challenges are reversed, gives further evidence to which water challenge is RC and which water challenge is IC.

From TDT:
Having two water-based challenges makes it a bit difficult to sort out which challenge is which. Helpfully, however, we're shown Nate arriving at (what must be) the RC with Aitutaki, and Jonathan is visible in the shot. And Jonathan is wearing a different shirt here than he is when he sits out the puzzle/zipline challenge (which would be his brown t-shirt), so this other challenge (smashing plates) must be for reward and the puzzle/zipline for immunity.
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Nate arriving with Aitu Tribe
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Jonathan definitely wearing a tan shirt
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Jonathan in dark brown shirt (sitting out) in zipline challenge.

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
So........who wins Reward, who goes to Exile Island, and who wins Immunity Challenge.....and who gets the boot?

Nobody really picking Reward winner yet, though the picture of Candice and Flicka congratulating each other looks like an Aitu win.
Exile Island.......Who knows!!!
Immunity Challenge - speculation is that Raro loses again because of this picture of Nate. (See the zipline in the background).
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Going Home ........ Boot: Rebecca and Jenny are most vulnerable for this Episode.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
great stuff Ginger!! Thx so much!

Coco
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Coco a private message Print Post    
Ginger, I don't post much these days, but I wanted you to especially know that I always drop by to read your thread.

You are AWESOME!! Thanks so much for bringing us this speculation stuff!!


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
You guys are more than welcome. I enjoy looking at the speculation/spoiler stuff, and once I figure it out, it doesn't take that much more to bring it over here for you.

Here's something else to chew on:
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JP is wearing a dark blue shirt in the RC (tile smashing challenge)
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and JP is wearing a light blue or white shirt in the zipline challenge (IC)
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But he is wearing a yellow shirt in the promos where he is showing a bottle...
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Here's a close-up of the bottle
So, the yellow shirt has to be a different episode than this week's ......

But, here's the catch!!!
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Look at the picture of Raro responding to JP's explanation of what the bottle is about!!!
Lordy, Lordy......looky, looky.....
there's Rebecca and Jenny with Nate and the side view of Adam.

So, obviously, Rebecca and Jenny neither one get voted off this week. So, if Raro loses, do they boot Brad? Maybe ... last week he didn't vote at TC with the majority. Also, in the reward challenge the swimmers are Rebecca, Parvati and Adam and not Brad......and remembering the title of this week's show "Why aren't you swimming?"...there might be something there.

But, if Raro wins IC, and Aitu loses....Flicka is toast!

Most posters seem to think Aitu wins both of these challenges because of the expertise of Ozzy, which, sadly enough, puts a big "X" on his back......and if Aitu does win both, and we still see Rebecca and Jenny........

Well.........I've given you all I can find to help make your decisions. I don't have the answer, but Nate sure looks disappointed at the zipline challenge......

Pamy
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
isnt the tile challenge the kind that gives others knowledge of the pecking order?? I love those

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I don't think this is that type of tile challenge. Three members of each tribe are picked to swim out to the platform, climb the platform, jump holding a stick in their hand and try to break a tile before falling into the water. Each tribe has 6 tiles to break before their tribe goes on to the next step. It's not clear if it is done in order, or if somebody like Ozzy can just climb, smash, climb, smash, climb, smash.....or what. After the 6 tiles are smashed, they swim back and the other 2 members of their tribe do the 2nd part and nobody seems to know what the 2nd part is. There is a barrel......but do they chop into the barrel and that's where the reward is, or is the reward a big barrel of wine, or do they roll the barrel to somewhere and reach the finish line first to win the reward. That parts just not clear...but everybody seems to think its an Aitu win because Ozzy swims circles around everybody else.

Pamy
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
aahhhhh that makes sense!!!

I wonder what is in the bottle that has them all gasping...isnt it about time to merge?

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I don't know what's in the bottle...I just know that JP's shirt is yellow, so the bottle isn't this next episode. Usually the merge is at 10 people left, but they started with 20, so who knows what they have in mind.

Costacat
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Sunday, October 29, 2006 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Goodness, after seeing the drunken giggles from the wine Aitu shared, I'm hoping it's NOT a barrel of wine!

Alaginger
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Monday, October 30, 2006 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
This new post under the boot section at Survivor Fever this morning:
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Boot: Early tips indicate that Raro wins the IC and that Flica may be the Episode 7 boot. TDT also speculates that Flica is the Episode 7 boot. However Rebecca was heavily featured in the Recap so she is also vulnerable. Jenny is another possibly as she is speculated to not make the merge, nor is Brad.
Episode 7 boot possibilities:
Flica, Rebecca, Jenny, Brad
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Ginger Note: So, it's very possible that Ozzy swims circles around Raro, and Nate looks disgusted because Ozzy and Becky get back to the platform with the puzzle pieces first, and Jonathan is jumping in celebration because they get back first.............but the puzzle has to be solved before a Tribe wins........so maybe, Aitu just can't solve the puzzle and Raro beats them. And, obviously, Flicka is the next to go at the Raro tribe.

If it is Aitu that wins, I don't think Rebecca or Jenny are going anywhere based on the picture posted above of a future episode...so I'm thinking the tips are right, Raro wins, and Flicka goes home....

But then, how should I know.....
This should be a very good episode to watch!!!

Moondance
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Monday, October 30, 2006 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moondance a private message Print Post    
Almost looks like money in the bottle

Moondance
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Monday, October 30, 2006 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moondance a private message Print Post    
I love all the spoilers Ginger... thanks again!

Sometimes lighting can effect colors so do you think the yellow shirt could have looked white n another shot... just a thought. But I am still hoping it is different.

Alaginger
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Monday, October 30, 2006 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I think that is really a bright yellow shirt. None of the expert posters at the other sites are suggesting that any colors have been tampered with, and that has happened in the past for misdirection from CBS. Usually, with a blown-up picture, you can see the smudges from the touch-ups trying to hide the colors of buffs and stuff.

I can't tell what's in the bottle, or what it means. I read somewhere that they have 10 seconds to make up their minds about something that might change the game for them. Somebody suggested switching tribes might be the decision.......but maybe a money offer is made. Who knows. That's another episode, and by then we will probably have better pictures to decipher, and more teasers.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
HEADS UP - TV GUIDE INFO ABOUT NOV. 16 AND NOV 23.....

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Double Boot and Merge Episode Information:
TV Guide magazine (Oct 30 - Nov 5) confirms in an article called "The Best of November Sweeps"
(11/16 and 11/23) First, two contestants will be voted off in one night. Then...it's the merge!
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Ginger Note: Sounds like a double boot on the 11/16 episode and the merge on the 11/23 episode. So now we know when the merge takes place. Right now we have 13 going to 12 people for the 11/2 episode, and then 12 going to 11 for the 11/9 episode, and then 11 going to 9 (double boot) for the 11/16 episode, and then the 9 merge for the 11/23 episode and play for individual immunity after that.
That's 4 people going before the merge and the rumors have it that Flicka, Brad, Rebecca and Jenny don't make the merge.....

So, if that is right...then the jury of 7 and the F2 will consists of:
Yul, Jonathan, Ozzie, Nathan and Adam (Guys)
Candice, Parvati, Becky and Sundra (Gals)

Pamy
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Tuesday, October 31, 2006 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
damn I cannt stand Parvo was hoping she wouldnt make merge..but I adore Nate, Yul, Sundra and Oz so happy about that

Juju2bigdog
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Wednesday, November 01, 2006 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ginger!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hard-drive crashed yesterday morning. I'm at the library posting this.

Dell sent Tech this morning, so hopefully will back up and running tomorrow...all is formatting and loading right now.......

TDT still says Flicka (Jessica) tonight.
Survivor Fever is non-commital saying either Flick, Jenny, Rebecca or Brad......
Those voting across the boards are favoring Flicka for the boot tonight.

Juju2bigdog
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Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Gosh, you are dedicated, Ginger. Unfortunately I did not make it to this thread this morning. Fortunately (I am playing the Survivor Fantasy game) I changed my vote last night from Aitu, Aitu, and Brad to Aitu, Raro, and Jessica. Yay!!!