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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 9:12 am
This is also from the Insider, which I think means footage that isn't shown on the promos. I think you will find this very, very interesting! YUL OFFERS UP THE IDOL As Aitu studies for the immunity challenge, Yul offers the idol to a stunned Becky. (Aitu, Day 23) YUL (reading the end of treemail): ...and for the losers, Tribal Council woes. Islands of the Pacific. (everyone looks at the map) We have to memorize the map. OZZY (to Sundra): Alright, lady, let's see what you got. (Sundra, Ozzy, and Yul rattle off various islands) YUL (solo): At this point, we're tight as a team, but my biggest #1 fear is we're going to lose our immunity challenge. It's going to be tough because we need to stay strong. For me it's personally going to throw me into a personal dilemma because we'll have to decide who to vote off. (Yul goes to talk to Becky) YUL (to Becky): I feel like my friendship with you is of a quality different from anything in this game... YUL (solo): I've been giving a lot of thought to how I'll use the idol. I'd rather not use it to save my skin just one time. If I'm just going to get booted out again, it was a waste to use it that way. YUL (to Becky): The only thing I'm thinking is, anyone's chances of making it farther are so slim, it'd be a waste to lose the idol and not use it. I want one of us to go forward with the best chance possible. I'd be willing to give you the idol, and forfeit. If it's not me, I want you to win. BECKY: No. No. No. YUL: I don't want to sacrifice a friendship. I want to give you the best chance. BECKY: No. For real, Yul, I would definitely not want you do that at all. YUL: I'm serious. I don't want it to ever get to a situation where we're competing against each other. In that situation I'd rather you go forward. BECKY: I want you to know that I would not let you do that. I would not let you do that. I would not let you default and do that. I'd rather keep of us that we're going to keep on winning, winning, winning, and the merge happens, and we'll keep on going that route. I know that's always a possibility, the default thing. YUL: I'm really sincere in saying that I want us to be friends. BECKY: No, even if I... YUL: That it means more to me... BECKY: I know, and that's why I'm saying that being a true friend, I wouldn't let a person do that. (the final shot is of two white birds in a tree)
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 9:26 am
didn't they do the map of the islands on the show we just watched?
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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 9:46 am
Yes, that convo is in an episode clip on CBS; unseen footage from the past episode (9); not upcoming footage for ep 10.
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Coco
Member
07-13-2000
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 10:25 am
Hi Ginger...just a quick post to let you know that I appreciate your spoilers!! AND!, if I had the imaginary TVCH Spoiler Idol, I'd give it to you so that you could keep going forward with spoiling...heh!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 11:30 am
wow!! I was hoping.... that there wouldnt be a merge, didnt the episode with Stephanie they kept thinking merge,merge, and it never happened? Till it was just her tho... ok... good info!! ;)
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 1:00 pm
Wow Coco........thanks so very much. It is always great to be appreciated, and I think I've been shown over and over again here that you guys appreciate the information I bring over. And the good part is that those who don't want to be spoiled don't have to read this section. Great, huh?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 1:22 pm
well that insider clip kinda confirms what I read earlier..I bet she takes it and screws him over late in game
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 3:47 pm
I hope she doesn't. On the early show Jenny was asked about the voting along racial lines and she said of course some people were drawn together by having similar background and she mentioned Becky and Yul being allied and said going forward.. it was hard to know if she just meant "until now" or in the future and Harry didn't press her on that.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 3:49 pm
Ginger, you definitely win the immunity competition and deserve all the rewards for your excellent and insightful spoiling. 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 3:53 pm
I agree Ginger would get my vote in the final 2!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 6:18 pm
ok I found out that spoiler I mentioned was an early one found thru myspace info..so take it for whats it worth
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 8:29 pm
Pamy....I went in to google.com and typed in Becky and Yul and it took me to a discussion of what you were talking about over at Sucks.com. I don't frequent that one too much because there's is too much vulgarity and putdowns over there that I can just as well do without, but I did pan through this since you brought it up. All I could get out of it was a speculation that it might happen........and not a spoiler that somebody says it actually did happen. If you see anything else along that line that is a spoiler from a potential spoiling source, let us know. Neither TDT or Survivor Fever or Survivor Blows discusses it that I could find. Oh.......and thanks SEA....but I would never make it past the opening credits. Jumping off the ship would take me out of the game (LOL).
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 8:41 pm
I just didn't get the idea that Jenny and Yul didn't stay allied, just the way Jenny was talking the other day, but of course she could be misleading us.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 18, 2006 - 11:07 pm
good job Ginger!! I hope it isnt true!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 8:33 pm
A couple of more pictures at the pole challenge. They aren't very good pictures, but here they are anyway.
Nate appears to be slipping.
Nate is down and already wearing a shirt, and somebody else has just fallen......and it appears to be Ozzy.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Sunday, November 19, 2006 - 10:53 pm
Thanks, Alaginger. It could be that Ozzy had just won and then jumped off, and Nate's patting him on the back. On the other hand, Yul's smart enough to know that the other tribe will be gunning for Ozzy, especially since Jonathan was campaigning against him before the mutiny. His smart move might be to tell Ozzy that he'll give him the secret immunity idol if Ozzy throws the challenge and gets people to vote for him. Yul stated in that Insider scene that he didn't want to use it on himself just to save his neck one time and get booted the next time. So far we know that Nate didn't win it, and neither did Becky. Usually some people will give up on these endurance comps when they believe they're safe, but Candice will be feeling very vulnerable and will probably stick it out for as long as she can.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, November 20, 2006 - 12:27 pm
Oh good gawd. What is it about this season's reality shows? Seems there are people who are out for the "frienship" aspect of the game, rather than actually playing the game to win. Sheesh! Ginger gets MY vote at the final tribal council! 
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 6:54 am
(LOL) Costacat... you guys are really making me feel good, but final tribal council ... not a chance. Here's a couple of more pictures from that batch that were grainy, and not too good....but TDT has suggested that maybe these two pictures are of two guys watching Ozzy fall and Nate reach for him. Of course, TDT also points out that these pictures could have been taken before Ozzy even fell......but for what it's worth, it's Yul and Adam.
Yul
Adam Frankly, to me, at this point it makes no difference who wins the II because there is somebody else to target. There are 4 Aitu and 5 Raro, so both sides should be thinking in terms of if Yul wins we can target Ozzy, and if Adam wins we can target Nate......or whoever ... going for the power players. So, the real interest is going to be watching how Yul uses his Exile Island II and influence to get somebody (probably Jonathan) to vote with the Aitu's. This might be why Nate goes home instead of Adam, if Adam wins the IC.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 5:58 pm
Okay.....posters over at Survivor Fever are discussing the spoiler that Ozzy wins the IC (the pole challenge) this episode. They seem to have a lot of faith in the person who spoiled it, so they aren't even talking anymore about who wins, but about how Yul pulls the Exile Island II trick and gets Nate booted. I'll be interested in seeing how that picture of Ozzy falling on the ground fits into that scenario on Thursday night.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, November 21, 2006 - 10:28 pm
Alaginger, what do you make of these images of Raro celebrating while Aitu looks on, and Nate looking like he just won the lottery? Are they just that happy because they're merging with a majority?

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Whrlwnd
Member
10-13-2006
| Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 7:05 am
Curlyq, when I first saw those photos I, at first, thought it looked like Nate won immunity. However, as I look closer I don't think these are immunity related photos. Yul wears the green t-shirt on the pole, but here he's wearing a white tank top. Same w/ some of the others, they don't appear to be dressed the same as on the pole. Plus, there are no poles in the background. So, it sure appears that someone on Raro won something, but I don't think it's immunity related. It seems like an over-reaction if it's just about a merge. Don't think I've ever seen a team get that excited over a merge. Maybe there is an RC (the feast), and the winner decides to share. Just my unofficial guess, though.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 7:18 am
Here's the same picture blown up just a little bigger, I think. I never know what it is going to look like until I have posted (LOL). I've seen this picture and read a lot of what other posters at the other sites I frequent have said about it, and they aren't making too much over it....so I didn't bring it over. They seem to think that it is just a reaction to the merge and getting to eat Thanksgiving Dinner together. My guess is that the over-reaction is about getting to have a Thanksgiving Feast. As was pointed out by those posters, The Aitus are all looking at the Raro's, and Yul, Sundra and Becky seem to be clapping their hands. Parvati, who is on the other side of Candice is looking at the Aitus. Since there are no other pictures related to a different challenge, I don't think there is one (but I could be wrong). There are definitely different pictures of the new buffs (black, I believe) and the pole challenge is definitely individual, so the merge does take place. P.S. Here's what TDT had to say about that picture. The vidcap evidence for this is inconclusive, however. While we do see the two tribes lined up for a challenge (different from the pole-grabbing IC, based on Yul's clothes), it's not clear if Probst just brings them together to announce they're merging, or if they actually run a challenge, but CBS is hiding the evidence of it. The Rarotongas (Nate in particular) look especially happy. But that could mean many things: Probst tells them they'll be feasting, or Probst tells them they're merging (up 5-4 on Aitutaki). Maybe they even won a "Guess Probst's actual age" competition. Who can say? The body language reads more like merge, with no challenge, but you never know.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 9:03 am
Considering how many times the Raro tribe has lost a challenge, I'd be darn right ecstatic to be told there's a merge. As in, no more team competitions, so maybe, just maybe, *I* can finally win something without having to depend on the rest of the Raro team. <snicker>
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, November 22, 2006 - 10:25 am
Mind you it wasn't "Thanksgiving" when this was filmed. Probably just happy for food.
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