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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
That would be a very cool scenario. Terry wins the luxury challenge, and by doing so, gets to pick TWO people to go to Exile Island, and they will not return until the next LUXURY challenge (meaning they miss Tribal Council.

That would be cool.

But sometimes I get aggravated at the whole "expect the unexpected" twists. I sometimes feel like it is tampering with the game. Unless they are expressly told that there is this "Exile Island" and sometimes it won't be used at all, sometimes it will be one person sent there, sometimes two, and sometimes you WILL return for TC, and sometimes you won't....I feel like if the contestants don't know these things far enough in advance, then there really is an element of luck in the game, like poker. You can be skilled, but if the cards aren't dealt to you by the producers of Survivor, you can lose.

If my above scenario happened, I'd think they were throwing Terry and the La Mina people a bone.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Rofl Br!!

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
When Shane got 4 votes last night I was so hoping that someone on his team flipped. I can't stand the guy. He needs to go...real soon.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Even if Terry had done what y'all have suggested, next week will NOT be even. It will still be 5-4 as this week it was 6-4.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I was thinking the same thing Eeyore was. I really thought Terry should have used the ii, especially after he saw the votes would eliminate Shane.

and Babyruth -- shame on you!

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
This is a game for a million bucks, I'm not sure I'd give the ii to someone else unless it was final four and I had immunity. I'd definitely want to hold on to it to save my own bacon.

I imagine he would have had to have given it to Nick prior to Tribal, and then who knows they might have been voting for Austin.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
PS plus I want to slap Shane silly everytime I see him on the screen. I can't begin to write what I really think of him. jmo

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
I'm with ya there Jasper.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
The only way I would even consider giving away the II is if I had already won the milllion and it was safely in my bank.

We can all take turns slapping Shane.

Christiii
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07-07-2005

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
if he didnt use the II this time to even the numbers, he might as well keep it for himself....he reaaaaaallly blew it not using the idol now....I wish they would not merge until the teams are more even, otherwise it makes for some boring weeks just watching the weak ones get picked off....Shane is awful....he is like Tommy Lee on 'roids.....

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
That's the thing.
If Terry didn't use it at the last TC, when it might have make a difference, why bother to even bargain with it anymore--that's what he tried to do in the preview, isn't it? I think I even understand that he was offering it to one of the girls.

My turn to have a go at Shane?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bob for the heads up about two being exiled coming week.

If, a strong if: (Well, a total make believed if)
Shane and Aras are on the EI and at the same time Bruce has been taken out by the stretch, then Terry and Austin would be left with all the female outcasts alone. Sally will stick w/Terry for fear of the Pagonging. Cirie never was the core member to any thing. Courtney and Danielle had already dissolved their alliance technically.

Wow, is that how TPTB could swing the game around?

Eeyor, those unexpected twists are all covered when the players sign that 500+ pgs-book of a contract. I'm sure "All rules are subjects to be changed..." will be there some where along with "Thou shall not complain about the rules changing against your strategies...."

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If Terry is starting to blabbermouth about having the II, then he's not as smart as I thought he was. All the Casaya folks have to do is call his bluff and vote him out. They will lose one of their own, since the second highest number of votes goes. But that would call his bluff and force him to 'fess up and use it.

Casaya could also force a tie... if they vote 3 for Terry, 3 for Austin, and then La Mina puts their 3 against someone at Casaya. Terry takes himself off, and they tie-break Austin and Casaya. If everyone votes between those two, then Terry will still lose a tribemate and he will have lost the II.

Actually, now that I think about it, that's the smartest thing to do. Vote 3 for Terry and 3 for Austin. Then let La Mina vote 3 for someone on their tribe. La Mina will lose.

Unless, of course, the tie breaker isn't about voting again and is instead about building fire or somesuch dumb thing! :-)

At any rate, still not liking Terry. I'm glad Casaya saw right thru his desperation act, by trying to make it look like there were "fringe" teammates. Like, stay with your original six and you stand a much better chance of staying longer than flipping, guaranteeing you'll be first out on that side, and having the wrath of your former team against you too. Duh.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Terry will not have to use the II if there is a 3 way tie. He only has to use it if he is picked to go. He can wait until after the tie breaker to see if he needs to use it.

But it seems like Terry is doing everything backward with the II, so anything is possible.


Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I'm still trying to figure out how y'all think his using the idol this week would have evened the numbers, 10-1 is 9, not even ...

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
I don't think there was anything Terry could have done successfully to flip anyone, but what he tried was just lame.

My suggestion was that he could have tried to lure Bruce into a final 2 scenario by telling Bruce that he had the II, throwing the immunity challenge and having Bruce's group vote Terry out (which they seemed more than willing to do). He would then use the II to boot Shane and his group would have the advantage now at 5-4.

He could have told Bruce that Sally would be gone at #5 and then it would be Terry/Bruce against Nick/Austin and they would take it from there. He could also have suggested that Bruce was probably #6 on his team, with the 3 girls sticking together and Aras and Shane being closer. Bruce has always been a loner, so maybe he would have gone for it.

It would still have been a long shot, but makes more sense to me than what Terry tried. I think Terry's biggest problem was that he wanted to get 2 of the 6 to flip so he could still hold on to the II and get the numbers advantage. He only had one thing to negotiate with and he chose not to use it.

I'm not sure who was saying it would have been even if Terry used the idol this week. Who is the y'all that is saying that?


Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree with your logic Bob. If Terry had used the II, Shane would be gone and Terry would have had 3 more days to convince Bruce to jump ship to the other side. I'm wondering if Bruce has seen past Survivors and is aware of what happens to "swing" players. They usually don't last long if they appear to be flip/flopping. Bruce thinks he has power -- maybe he'll soon realize he's first to go on his "team".

I don't want Terry to win and don't think he will after this blunder. But I guess we'll find out as this game plays out. Maybe something brilliant will happen, but I'm doubful in this boring season.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Terry missed his big chance. He could have bought Bruce with the II. Now it looks in the previews that he is trying to buy Courtney. She did good on the immunity challenge....hung in there like a monkey. I would miss she & Shawn fighting like an old married couple.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 31, 2006 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    

quote:

Terry using the II this week is useless. What he needed to do was let one of his own (Nick?) win the other II, and let the votes get cast (Casaya would all vote out Terry, and Terry's tribe would all vote out Shane). Once Jeff tallies the votes, Terry could have pulled out his II, and then Shane would have been gone, based on coming 2nd in # of votes.

The following week, numbers would be EVEN.





quote:

if he didnt use the II this time to even the numbers, he might as well keep it for himself....he reaaaaaallly blew it not using the idol now




That's what I mean

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 12:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
My favorite "swing" player was Shii-Ann, who flipped, but the two tribes were only just living on the same beach, and not really merging yet. LOL

Terry also screwed up by telling Cerie and Bruce that he'd only give them the next two weeks. That's like saying I still like some of the other members of Casaya better than you. Idjit!!! He should have said "cross over" and then let them know they would be the last two Casaya standing.

I like the idea of saying to Bruce that it would be Terry/Bruce vs. Nick/Austin at the end.

I'm excited for double exile.

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 5:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
Eeyoreslament, I agree completely! Telling them that they would be safe for two weeks! Hello!? And how about Austin telling everyone his strategy of looking weak during the immunity challenge so that they would vote for someone else? They hadn't voted yet! Then there was Nick talking about their tribe's strategy of approaching people who were outsiders in the other tribe to try to take advantage of that and turn votes to their advantage? That's certainly going to make the "outsiders" feel good about any thoughts they might have had about flipping.

These people are facing more challenges than the ones Mark Burnett has come up with. Their biggest challenges come from themselves! WOW!

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
Terry made a mistake by not saving Nick with the II this week. The last person Terry will want to have stirring up the jury is Shane.

I can see where Terry would want to hold on to the II for his own protection because he has too many others competing for immunity each week at this point and is not sure he will win immunity. Terry was thinking survival and not the final voting for winner.

It surprised me to see him trying to bargain next week with the other girls by telling them he has the II after not using it to save Nick. The only way this would make sense is that this occurs after he has won immunity again next week and is feeling secure.

Terry is good at winning battles but he may lose at winning the war. Nick would have voted for Terry to win the game. Shane will be vindictive.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
The ONLY reason I can think of for Austin telling everyone he was faking his weakness was MAYBE he was hoping to split up the Nick vote, thereby resulting in a Shane majority. Not sure that was his intention, but, if he even got one person to vote Austin... I doubt it, but it's all I can think of... Unless he is so vain that he didn't want everyone to think of him as weak???

Spear
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08-06-2001

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
On Survivor Live, Nick said that's what he thought Austin was trying to do (split the vote) and Nick thought it was a good idea.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Saturday, April 01, 2006 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
We would've been calling Austin "The best player this season" then.
My other thought is that Austin was showing how he isn't a contender at mental challenge either!

It's hard to get over Terry's blunder this week. He might be some incredible "luck" to rectify this disadvantage he is in right now, but I don't want to see him win any more.