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Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
I don't think Cirie is lazy at all. The others have praised how hard she works. Shane said that Cirie works her butt off.

I think people took Cirie's down to earth honest statement that she doesn't like leaves to mean she is some prissy wimp. She does her part and it doesn't look like she complains about it and that tells me that she has probably worked hard all her life and done what needed to be done.

Don't be putting down my girl! :-)

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I agree Azriel, I loved her from day one, I really hopes she wins, I wouldn't mind seing her win the show. I love how she reacts, and stays out of fighting, and does alot of work, she works hard in the show. She will go far. I thought Bobby was lazy but work for the rewards and immuity and I never saw him do any work around the camp. Bruce or Shane should go next. I would love for us to be able to vote someone out.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Tnt, agreed!! I apologize for my earlier post...like I said editing made me think that...I don't think he is a lazy person in real life...and prolly wasnt lazy as the wanted us to think.......I am just pissed they dont pick Bill! LOL

I am loving CIrie more every week, some of the sly looks she gives when others argue crack me up!!

Secrey50
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09-15-2005

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secrey50 a private message Print Post    
I was a little surprised how fast those beans cooked. Ha. Those poor guys, being sick and miserable out there would be awful.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
Yes I felt bad for these guys too but I would have pick rice over beans because you know what beans can to do a person's system. Shane is getting on my last's nerves too. Courtney too. I agree with Bruce why did she have to do her yoga right at his rock garden. That is being a self-center person not thinking of others but maybe she is getting back at Bruce for drinking the wine with Bobby not sharing it with anyone.

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
I really like Cirie. I think she has an infectious way about her.

Funny to think that she was scared of bugs and stuff in the first episode.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Beans was such a poor choice. Rice wouldn't have worked havoc on their systems, and with even just a little bit of fish or snail, they'd be o.k., nutritionally. Geez, doesn't everyone know what beans do?

I'm sorry Bobby's gone. I hope the next challenges are very physical and they lose. After Bruce's dismal performance, Bobby won that challenge for them by whacking those fish, lickety-split.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Pamy, no need to apologize. You can see things any way you want. Different perspectives are allowed and welcome. :-)

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i would have picked the beans for their protein, but i think they ate them not completely cooked. they probably swelled in their stomachs as they absorbed moisture. certainly, no matter what they ate, since they had eaten so little over the last several days, they should have eaten a small amount and waited to eat more.
i know it's hard to wait to eat when you feel you are starving. half the time i am making something to eat, i will have to eat something while i am waiting!

what i dislike about this game over the last several series is that a couple of people decide they are the final 4 and 'allow' others to make it to final 6 or final 5, etc.
the girls should have enlisted bruce and ganged up on aras or shane. aras is running things (talk about being bossy, which he said other men were), and shane just scares me!
i would have liked courtney out, too, because rules don't apply to her. but since she is there, the girls need to be more assertive in the tribal council voting process, not just obnoxious in camp!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I thought Bobby did look lazy. If not, they sure showed him lounging a lot. Though he totally kicked butt in the fish competition. His word must not be worth much as he wrote Bruce's name down after he swore he would never do that.

Apparently he did not see the season with Clarence. He made a huge mistake with drinking all the wine. I was also disappointed that he didn't defend Bruce more. After all, Bobby was the one who gave Bruce the wine (reminds me of Adam & Eve!)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Courtney needs to go as does Aras. I am having a hard time figuring out which one is worse. They were really dumb not to band together and get rid of Aras. Courtney will be easy enough to dump down the line... But Aras, he might be very hard to get rid of...

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Not that I want Bruce out, but I'm still pretty surprised that the Coocoo tribe voted off their most valuable player. After the RC, they should just offer Bobby a first pick on what ever food/drink he desires. They would have been the ones left with beans or rice.

I can't bring myself to love Cirie, but she is fun to watch and root(sp?) for.

This past TC would have been the best chance to change things up. I don't understand why the 3 out-of-the-alliance ones couldn't have given it a shot and just put a united front and see where the chips may fall...
I agree that Bruce is a strange man and probably won't bother to comply with any decision that's not his own... Wonder if he still thinks himself as the leader whom everyone comes to get advice/help?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
They should worry about Aras. He could have another alliance with the younger men that would trump this later alliance on the freaky tribe.

I had a feeling maybe the girls are cleaning out the strong muscle(even though it's not time to do so yet), Courtney and the other girl in the alliance could only target Bobby now. They are not worried about Cirei, they know she most likely won't win IIC over them. Bruce and his odd actions won't endear too many others if he could make merge. That could be why they'd brand Bobby the #1 public enemy.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I think they should have used only a small part of the beans and cooked the hell out of them with a lot of water. Make bean soup. It would have made the beans go a long way and it would have been much easier on their systems. And they could have saved some for later although I did not get whether they cooked them all.

I bet if Terry had been there, they would not have eaten all those beans in one sitting. I suspect he would have known better. That was so stupid. Didn't anyone realize what a lot of beans can do to you even if you have not been starving. Under the circumstances, it was deadly.

You notice none of the women or Dan got sick. Probably because they did not make pigs out of themselves.

I was wondering why Casaya did not soak their raw fish in some of the wine. They could have cut up a bunch of fish and soaked it in a little wine with the seasonings.It might have made a fairly eatable dish. It would have kind of "cooked" the fish and at least made it taste better. It just blows my mind how these people seem to never think!

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I too wished that Aras or Courtney have been chosen to go. How quickly she talked the others into changing their choice from Bruce to Bobby--she sure is persuaive! Her carping about the wine got on my nerves--its not like the last of the water was guzzled down!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Allietex: I totally agree about "cooking" the fish in the wine. I'm surprised they did not use the wine that way. They could have had a gourmet meal! I know putting seafood like fish in an acid, like lemon juice, can "cook" it as well. They sure missed the boat.

Of course, I am amazed that the shelter was not on higher ground; nor the fire, nor that they had a pile of firewood protected from the rain. These people know they are coming to a tropical location where is probably rains a lot. Poor planning.

(anyone remember the shelter Rupert dug out and then got flooded???)

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
well, i love sushi and sashimi, but i would maybe have skewered a piece of fish on a stick and cooked it a little. had they let their fire go completely out?!

i like bruce. i'll bet he's a great art teacher and he seems like a feeling, spiritual man. i would have gone off on courtney, i think! he reminds me of the actor who played in the 'karate kid' movies.

courtney is pretty argumentative and selfish which doesn't match up with the whole yoga thing to me. maybe she'd be really bad if she didn't have her yoga to relax and soothe her. eek!

i hate it when people get too skinny. they look like all teeth. some of them were way too thin before going on survivor. if i were thin, i think i'd pig out for a month before going on this show, to have some fat to live off! hell, i pig out sometimes for a month and i have never applied for survivor, come to think of it!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Tabby, the flood killed their fire while they were at the RC. The firewood was wet so they couldn't build another.

Freetimefinally
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01-26-2006

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Freetimefinally a private message Print Post    
What happened to the dry firewood they were going to have stored in the latrine? Did everyone have the idea of using it but noone put any in there and they had the nerve to get mad at bobby for using it as a latrine. I also would of burnt some of the toilet paper to get some wet wood going. At least the paper it was wrapped in or the tubes it is on. These people can not survive.

Eating raw fish that has not been prepared properly can give you worms in your stomach. You don't relize it for a while though. Wonder if it will hit anyone later. I'm sure that fish had not been frozen to minus temps to kill all parasites. I would not of eaten if raw.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think the whole reason Bobby was voted out was because the team realized after the reward challenge that he would be a major threat during any immunity competitions once they merge...and then the wine was just another reason!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
maybe they should have burned the wood from the back of the outhouse! i don't have a problem eating raw fish, but i agree that it's 'prepared'. i don't pick a trout off my line and take a bite of it!
i also would have put some wood in my shelter to try and keep some of it dry. in the old survivors, they would show them walking back to camp with their torches. i would have held my fish over my torch!
of course, these are all 'shoulda coulda woulda's' and maybe none of my ideas would have worked!

Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
I'm a professional cook, and Freetimefinally, you are right about the worms. I've pulled worms off of beautiful fish, and would only eat raw fish if it was certified sashimi grade. Those fish could have had parasites, and there are parasites found in seafood that can attack the human body and be with you until the day you die because there is nothing that can be done about it without killing you too.

When it comes to killing parasites, heat is the best way. Freezing is only used to reduce or stop bacterial growth. Many parasites can wake after freezing, and the eggs almost always survive freezing.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Love reading everyone's comments.

I'm not caring about the show so
far, though I think I'd still like
to see Terry win.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I definitely would've taken the beans over the rice, just for the protein value alone.

I'm loving how Cirie is loving flying under the radar.

Courtney acts like she has a total sense of entitlement. It's NOT OK to drink all of the wine without sharing, but it IS OK for her to go do her stretches right in the middle of Bruce's rock garden. Without even asking, mind you.

Shane's seeming arrogance is bothering me. How can he guarantee someone a F5 or F6 finish at this point in the game. Even before the merge?

I can't decide if Courtney or Shane should go next. Unfortunately, I suspect that the women may actually band together for a change. Wouldn't it be interesting if they end up with only 1 woman on one team and 1 man on the other, when they get to the merge?

That said, I do think Bobby dug his own grave this ep. If it wasn't bad enuf that he drank the wine without sharing with the rest of the tribe, he then rubbed salt in the wound by showing almost no contrition. Pretty much "paint a target on my back and just fire away" stupid, in my opinion. Bruce got really lucky, too.

I have to wonder why, who was it, La Mina? didn't move their campsite once they realized they were living in the flood zone. That would've been the first thing I did, if not that day the very next. It's one thing to have lakefront property; it's quite another to have giant puddlefront property. Especially in the tropics!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sashimi - raw fish (or the raw fish that may be in some sushi) must be prepared properly and the fish must be very fresh.. of course the fish on Survivor was pretty fresh but eating it raw was a big risk (and I LOVE me some GOOD fresh sashimi!)

Also the other team choosing beans over rice.. in the long run they'd be more nutritious but for heaven's sake they should have cooked those suckers down and actually in the condition they were (and their digestive systems) rice would be WAY more digestible.. in fact we always cooked up rice for our dogs if they were having obvious problems..

And drinking up the wine.. lots of really bad decisions, seems to me!

I think Cirie has been great! I love how she keeps on working and she sure did well flinging fish, too.. and lets the other self-destruct. How deliciously ironic for her to have been labelled "next to go" and see FOUR of her tribemates get votes this time.

I agree that Bobby did himself in.. for heaven's sake, Bruce had already pissed people off (not all of it justified, IMO, but still, he had a target on his back) and Bobby just had to pretty much tell them.. "SO WHAT?".

There doesn't seem to be an over abundance of common sense on either tribe and the Exile Island is being used rather well to deprive a tribe of their strongest member.



I was fascinated by Jeff's pronunciation of "skulls" as "Skoals" and he said the word many times.