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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 8:48 am
Pamy: No there hasn't. Unfortunately, using the same logic that says the winner of the car has never won survivor, it follows that Cirie can not end up in the final 2.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 9:10 am
Cirie certainly has outwitted everyone, but I agree that her chances for F2 are slim, because who would want to go up with her? Cirie and Aras have been dismal at the challenges, but Aras could have been holding back. Cirie might also win the last endurance challenge. Most nurses spend a lot of time on their feet and work long hours, so she just might pull it off.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 9:57 am
It all depends on what the challenge is. My DH still can't get over her being afraid of leaves and being terrible at all the physical comps. He made some snide comments about wanting to see her get over those pads they had to jump on last night. I didn't get a chance to watch the 2nd half of the show or what happened with him because our son called for a ride home. Boy did I give it to him for calling during Survivor!! LOL I was taping it, but it's more fun watching with someone!! I like Cirie and get a kick out of her comments, etc, but she is going to have win "something" I think and I agree, who IS going to want to go up against her in final 2? I don't think anyone. Wasn't she saying she wanted Shane to go next?
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:27 am
I was never a huge fan of Terry....but after watching him all this time, I think he really does deserve to win....he really has been the ultimate Survivor so far....really trying to play the game with the others, be fair at it..and smoking the challenges...it would be a shame if someone like Shane won over him. I was thinking that having the whole trbe as the jury would really hurt Terry...but we cant be sure of that...once they all start having to turn on each other, it COULD bring up some hard feelings and resentments among them....and in the past jurys, people have flipped and voted for who they thought played the game the best...which COULD be Terry, especially if they are really bitter about being voted off by their own "family"!.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:41 am
did i miss something last night (it may have already been discussed here & i missed it too) but did the reward winners not tell shane & the others about terry winning the vehicle?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 10:56 am
I didn't see any mention of it Cnd. I wondered too. But part of me thinks they've softened to having Terry around, because they know it's now in their best interest. The thing that disappoints me about this season, is that they haven't shown us too much of the dynamic AMONG the Casaya tribe. They've shown us a TON of wheeling and dealing with regards to giving the LaMina members a hope of not being Pagonged, but we don't know what the real alliances and the pecking order is within the Casaya tribe. I remember thinking either two or three episodes ago, when there was mention of a Shane/Cerie/Aras alliance, that we have never seen how that came about, or why those three trust each other over the other Casaya members. We've never seen a point where Cerie went from being "next out" from Casaya, to "Top 3" in an alliance. I'm getting tired of the one-sided editing of "Will Terry *survive* another week?!?" <insert suspenseful music here: Dun-dun DUNNN!!!!!> The thing that made us get into last night's episode is that we the viewers have NO CLUE what's going on in the Casaya tribe.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 11:07 am
Pamy...I think a few Survivors back...Chris won the whole thing and was so close to being voted out first cuz he pretty much lost the first IC for his tribe (all guys)
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 11:36 am
The immunity idol is only good to final 4. Terry has one more chance to use it. It goes out of play at that point so he cannot pass it on. He will either win again but keep it, win again and pass it Shane so his vote for Aras will count or lose and use it himself. I see Cirie as the ultimate Survivor. She was going to be first off but swung the vote toward Tina on her first day on the island. Now that was good. She has used her social skills and intelligence to remain at the core of Casaya. Excellent playing. I am disappointed that they have not had puzzles, memory games and facts about the island or each other quizes, too. It would have put them on a level playing field with Terry for starters. They are also interesting too watch for a change. This is not the Eco Challenge though it appears to be this season. Just to clear this up. Cirie was not afraid of leaves. She was fearful of what hid beneath them so avoided stepping near them.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:30 pm
Cinnamongirl..that is true but didn't it come out that he had a secret alliance from the moment he hit the beach and knew he wouldnt be voted off no matter what he did in that challenge?
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:30 pm
I am not sure just what they mean by through or to the final four. Does that mean that when there are 5 people and one has to be voted off, that is the last time it can be used, or does it mean that when there are 4 people and one has to be voted off it can still be used. I could swear I heard Jeff say it could be used 'through' the final four, not 'to' the final four. I live in south Texas and I am very careful where i step when it comes to piled leaves and high weeds. There can be rattlesnakes or copper heads in them. Don't make a big production of it, but always aware. When kids go out to play around here in the country, the final words from Mom are always "Watch for snakes."
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:33 pm
There seems to be conflicting information about the HII out on the net. On the first episode when the HII is introduced, Jeff states that the Idol could be used "up to and through the final four." This has been confirmed by different people and shows up in the closed captioning of that episode. However, during interviews with Probst before this season started, it has been stated that the HII must be used before the final 4. I'm thinking that if this is Terry's last chance to use the HII, then the promos would say something about how Terry is guaranteed a spot in the final 4, while the remaining Casaya alliance must battle to see who will join him. Looks like we may not know for certain until we see next weeks episode.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:51 pm
If this is the last time Terry can use the idol, he needs to really put out the effort to win the immunity challenge again. Then he would have a bargaining chip to use with whoever is picked to be the sacrificial lamb this week. He could trade it for that person's vote against whoever Terry wanted. Even if it ended in a tie, that person would be better off than just being voted out. If he could get someone to go along, they could announce ahead of time that that person is going to have the immunity neckless and Terry has the idol.That would force the remaining three to decide which of their own is going to have to go. Say for instance, Shane finds out he is the target and agrees to go over to Terry. Terry could give Shane the necklass instead of the idol. They could not vote for Shane. If they tried to vote for Terry he uses the idol, and whoever is second in the vote is going. I don't think they are going to leave that to chance. Two of them will turn on the third one and vote for them, hoping Terry will not win the immunity challenge the next week. Now, wouldn't that be fun to watch. At this point, I could live with any of them but Shane winning, so I am just going to sit back and enjoy them try to outmanuever each other.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 12:57 pm
Wow! One of the best epi ever but not many people came to the thread last night. I had a special engagement otherwise I would've been here butting in on Rean as usual. It's like what Watching2 said, "...it's more fun watching with someone!!" Everyone in the house runs away from me when I want to watch reality shows!! It was so much fun watching Cirie! We all have watched the game player in her grew. From the old "must bite my tongue" attitude to the "must talk/play to change things in my way"! It's still going to be tough for her though. Now that Cirie had opened everyone eyes to see all the possibilities of F2s, any of them could turn around and point out how Cirie could be the ideal person to take to the final three. I do hope Shane gets kicked out next. He is the only one in there I won't like to win this season. I'd love to never have to see him again after tolerating him in the live show later-- pretty sure CBS and JP would like to give him another shot to say something, anything which would mean nothing to me anyways!!
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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:00 pm
Bruce says it took eight hours for him to get medical care on Survivor Bruce’s medical problem on last week’s episode of Survivor Panama was eventually treated, but it took eight hours for him to get medical care. First, Bruce tells TV Guide, the camera crew was more interested in Shane and Courtney’s bitching about not being selected for the reward challenge, so that “[b]y the time the camera crews had come back with the producers and medics, it had been three hours and it was pitch-dark.” At that point, “it was too late for them to bring a helicopter, so they loaded me into the speedboat.” He says that “[The trip to proper medical care] took five hours. It was worse than a rattlesnake bite.” Once he was treated, he says, doctors “stuck a catheter in me and over a quart and a half of urine exploded out. They were shocked and said I could have been dead.” Bruce suggests that was partially the fault of people on the crew, who “kept telling me to drink more water, and it was like a water balloon getting bigger and bigger. That was a big problem. Then I thought I was having appendicitis, or my abdominal artery was going to explode. My dad passed away from that.” While Bruce has healed fully, he still had trauma in his life when he returned. After “teaching for 34 years,” he says that his assistant principal told him “that if I don’t show up for school the next day, he was going to ask the school board to terminate me permanently. I asked for a leave of absence with no pay.” That wasn’t granted, so when he returned from the show, he “was suspended for five more days, so I lost two months of pay. I still am baffled by one man’s decision. I love teaching, though, so it didn’t make me bitter. I’m back and having the best time with my kids.” reality blurred
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:07 pm
The jury is only 7 people. Austin and Sally would vote for Terry if he goes to F2. He only needs two more votes to win. I can see Courtney also voting for Terry if she thinks too much about how annoying everyone thinks she is etc., but I think with her parting words of the no hard feelings type, she will probably stay true to Cas. tribe members, maybe, maybe not. Also, if she knows the votes or can figure them out, she'll know Terry didn't vote her out. If Terry does get a vote from Courtney in the F2, he only needs one more to win the $1 million. I think Bruce will stay true to the Cas. tribe, but he may respect Terry's physical abilities so much that he might give Terry a vote. If Shane is not in the final two, he may give Terry a vote out of vengeance for Cas. tribe. I don't think it is impossible for Terry to win the $1 million. But I hope Cirie wins it.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:10 pm
Yep Terry has to win the Idol this week. the thing is that all Terry has to do is go to the person who is singled out to be evicted and work a deal with them. My understanding of the necklace is thta he doesnt have to give it to anyone until they have actually been voted out. Once they are voted out Jeff asks if anyone wants to use the necklace. If terry says yes, it puts everyone in tailspin because they wont have time to decide collectively who should go. In all likelihood it will be cirie, danielle or Aras who goes. Will Cirie cut a deal with Aras for loyalty? and they stick together to vote out Danielle? Shane and Terry vote out Aras and who will Danielle vote for? Great scenarios if Terry wins immunity next week. I am crossing my fingers that he does just to make some interesting televsion.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:10 pm
Okay, Bruce may have a point about lack of medical treatment -- but does anybody else get the feeling that he has a bit of a victim mentality? He just never was one of my favorites - to me it was always portrayed that he felt that he was a major influence on the tribes he was on and, quite frankly, I think he was always more of a pawn. (Except for building the camp for the team that didn't have one.)
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:11 pm
Poor Bruce, that's all really rough.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:18 pm
I wasnt crazy about Bruce, whine whine whine. It also sounds like he is going to sue
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:30 pm
Dang that's bad. Whiney or not I wouldn't have wanted to be in that kind of pain for 8 additional hours.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:45 pm
I posted the link to Bruce's TV Guide interview on his thread but here it is again: link The realityblurred article makes it sound like Bruce was complaining more than he really did. For one thing, he never explicitly says that it was the crew who told him to drink more water. They also cut out all the parts where it's clear that Bruce still had a sense of humor about the whole thing.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 1:52 pm
quote:My understanding of the necklace is thta he doesnt have to give it to anyone until they have actually been voted out.
I don't think that's true. The Immunity Idol doesn't have to be revealed until after the vote but both the Idol and the Necklace have to be transferred before the vote. Terry would have to predict who was being targeted.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 2:04 pm
Maris, the immunity neckalace has to be given to the person who will use it before voting, the immunity idol(that Terry found) has to be held by the person who will use it if needed before the voting takes place. The person with the immunity idol does not have to say they are using it until after the voting.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 4:30 pm
Terry and Dani blew it with the deal they made to each other, they both said they would take whoever came in 2nd in the final challege with them to the finals. Now if they wanted to take Shane (if he is still there) they can't.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, April 28, 2006 - 6:29 pm
I wonder what those drinks were the reward winners were drinking? They looked like some sort of fruit flavored soda or something. The colors were intriguing, making me wonder what the flavors were and all. 
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