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Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Heck, it could be argued this is a blow to Terry rather than buying him another week.

If Bruce had been able to stay in the game and Terry continued to win immunity, then Bruce would have been sitting on the jury after having been voted off by his "own". That could have made him just mad enough not to vote for a Casaya member in a final 2 scenario against Terry.

Now Bruce will sit on the jury having never been voted off. He'll almost certainly have loyalty to whichever Casaya member would go up against Terry, if Terry makes it to the final 2.


Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
To clarify, though, I do not object to the way the producers handle medical emergency issues. I just intended to comment on the implications of it.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
understood and agreed, spygirl.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
as far as bruce, when i was 13 i went to arizona with 2 moms and 11 kids. i got really constipated; probably because i was embarrassed to use the bathroom with teenage boys around. anyway, by day 11 or 12 when we were in mexico shopping, i was almost doubled over in pain. everyone was having a blast and i wanted to lie down and die. i finally told my friend's mom, who was an M.D. and she said, "why didn't you tell me sooner!? you could die from a hard stool perforating..."...anyway, she gave me something that finally worked. so i know what bruce felt like and it can be very very serious. i believe that jim henson and the girl who starred in 'poltergeist' both died from something similar where stool bacteria entered the blood stream...
i can still remember the pain and cramps i endured for days before telling the doctor and that was almost 40 years ago.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 12:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I loved Cirie tonight.. she's so funny.

Bruce is sort of like a two year old having a tantrum.

I would think that they'd have the family visits coming up..not sure if that would be prior to or after the car?

Courtney is so oblivious to people. The last thing someone in that kind of pain wants is to be touched (or sung to) plus Bruce ws very clear that he didn't want her to do these things.

And the Zen garden.. he always hated that Courtney kept using his garden and I don't think he'd be all that touched that she messed with it again. I thought every one of them was just as happy to have him gone but felt guilty thinking that (I mean after they knew he'd be ok). They made it abundantly clear that Bruce was low man after Terry.

That sort of pain is excruciating. I knew when Bruce talked about his back hurting that his kidneys were involved.

Good episode, overall. We did miss seeing Sally on the jury for the first time, well fed and clean.. I can wait.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 3:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I can feel for Bruce. In fact, just yesterday I had a bit of a....um.....plumbing issue! Not nearly as bad, but it had me some nausea, and a bit of pain. All I wanted to do was lie down. I did get things moving again, albeit a bit slowly. I'll admit after seeing tonight's episode, and still feeling the teeniest lingering effects from yesterday, I went and took a colace just to make sure things kept moving!

I don't know about Bruce, since his situation was much more severe. But I know when I get that way I need to go lie down on my stomach. For some reason it puts pressure on just the right areas (or maybe it relieves pressure in just the right areas) so things feel more freedom to go where they need to go.

Now that I've gone and shared way too much information.......

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 4:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelb724 a private message Print Post    
thank you spoilers! i fell asleep and woke up during CSI (which i don't even watch!). i hope bruce is okay, did they give an update?

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Courtney was shocked to see herself as others saw her. Biggest poser really threw her. I think she saw her self as quite a shining star of the show.
The editing allowed us more time with the members and their reactions since there was no second competition and tribal counsel. That was good.
I just read that Big Brother All Stars is coming up. We will select the members out of 20 they will put up.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Bruce is sort of like a two year old having a tantrum.

Sea, you did mean Shane, didn't you? If so, I've seen 2-yr-olds who act better than he did. But he did say it was part of his strategy and, man, did it work! At least for right now.

With the music they were playing when Bruce was being treated and taken away, I couldn't help but cry.

Michael was the Survivor who fell in the fire.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
Native-Texan, I agree with you on the music, I myself got a little teary-eyed

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Good point Spy.

Courtney and Shane will be hostile jurors! Terry is doing nothing to get any votes for game well played, however. He has failed to tone down his arrogance and attitude. Never a good thing.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
On the Early Show, Bruce said he was very touched by the tribute in his Zen garden. He was also a bit surprised by Cirie taking his shoes after he was gone (he did say he got them back). He didn't say much about his condition, or i missed it; and wouldn't reveal whether he made the jury or not.

He seemed a little off, although he said he was fully recovered - maybe the early morning or just unclear about what he could or couldn't say.

He did continue to express loyalty to "his team", so I think Spy was spot on about his voting.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Last nights ep was the first one I actually enjoyed this season. Poor Bruce, they needed to be eating some of those plants and grasses.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i am pretty sure that seamonkey meant shane. i was surprised to read it about bruce!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
LOL.. I meant SHANE is like a two year old, not Bruce..

I think his strategy could backfire when the others just get really tired of his schtick.

Thanks, Karin, glad Bruce was touched and not irritated. Of course the last we saw he wasn't liking Courtney at all so perhaps her efforts to soothe him helped to heal that relationship, even if the efforts weren't helpful at that point in his pain. I haven't remembered to record a single early show this season but would have liked to have see Bruce.

Cirie took his shoes? I missed that.

I think it is funny that they all peg Terry as arrogant (correctly) but Aras and Shane (and Danielle and Courtney also) are nothing BUT arrogant themselves.

Yes, Bruce needed some roughage, but I'm surprised he got so blocked since he seemed to be moving around more than the others. Perhaps something he ate in that reward, or both, laid him low and then he wasn't moving or eating. Whatever the reason, that looked awfully painful.

I suppose he wasn't allowed to say anything about recovery and whether he at least was on the jury. Maybe that made him some less clear.

I think the last few seasons, most of the jurors are hostile.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
...and remember how shane cried over his video and said he and his son 'grew up together'. uh, shane hasn't grown up YET. he's gotta be 34 or 35...maybe he's got a decimal point in there somewhere; 3.4 or 3.5 or maybe the decimal point is way off and his real age is .34 or .35!!

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
Wouldn't Shane be perfect as Jack Nicholson's character in The Shining....I can't remember anybody in past Survivors that act as nutso as Shane. He is one scary dude.
I don't get why people single Terry out as being so arrogant. Because he's strong? Heck, he doesn't have any allies left. I think the others act WAY more arrogant. They keep telling him he's gone as soon as he loses IC or II.
I'm tired of the pagonging. I say, next time, no teams. It gets old, the picking off. The lazy and worthless get a free ride. Make them work for their immunity, like Terry has been forced to.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I felt so bad for Bruce last night. (I didn't get home til 130am, and just watched, and went to bed.) I also thought that Bruce might be mad that Courtney was messing with his Zen garden.

I laughed when Shane said he'd be carrying the stretcher nekkid. He said something like "are we going to do this now?" and then told them if they were doing it now, that he'd have to carry the stretcher nekkid. Ya Shane, we don't have 30 seconds for you to throw your wet shorts on for a minute. LOL

Shane really acts like a little child, all egocentric. The previews for next week are WEIRD, with Shane pretending a piece of wood is a Blackberry?! He's lost it! LOL

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Just a clarification: the scene with Cirie taking Bruce's shoes was on the early show, not on the regular Survivor episode.

I agree that the others are just as arrogant as Terry in their own way. It's set up as him versus the others and they've been very haughty about their superiority (which is based only on numbers not on talent). Terry has proven that he can beat them in the challenges over and over; and I'm sure their ill will toward him is partly because of that, and his toward them is because they've made it clear he isn't one of the team and therefore gets no merit from them.

Shane did look awfully scary in a few of those shots last night; and a lot clueless.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Shane lost it before he got there if you ask me!! My DH can't stand him and can't figure out why HE is still there! He couldn't take him for a day! We were laughing at him so much with him being worried about his pants getting wet and his poor "woo woo" he made Cirie look at last week! This poor guy could be dying and he has to take his pants off first! Please don't ever let him be near me in a medical emergency! And Courtney touching Bruce and then singing to him when he clearly said NO.....argggggh!!!! We just couldn't believe how flaky they both acted. Oh, and Shane saying THEY are the only tribe to stick together since the beginning? I guess he hasn't watch that many seasons or heard of Pagonging!

Bruce's medical condition could have been and probably was (because his urinary tract shut down as well) far more serious than severe constipation. The more he talked about it the more it reminded me of my dad being rushed into emergency surgery because he had a twisted bowel. The minute they saw he couldn't get anything down they rushed him to the hospital. I was thinking it could have been something like that or appendicitis and then when Jeff said his UT was shut down, I realized it had to be something else. I'd like to know what it was exactly, but it was definitely serious.

Terry doesn't bother me at all. What's he supposed to do? It's not like he has a single ally there. Cirie cracked me up with her giggling. DH still remembers her being afraid of leaves and can't quite get past that about her. LOL

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I was wondering about Shane being nekkid also but it was explained to me that Shane did not want to get his pants wet taking Bruce to the boat because they would be wet all night. I imagine he was willing to forego modesty (that is if he has any) for comfort.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Well, if Shane didn't want to sleep in wet pants, why couldn't he wear his pants to the boat, and then sleep nekkid, instead of the other way around???

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Oh!!!!! I thought Shane had been ASLEEP nekkid, and that his pants were hanging somewhere, and he had no intention of putting them on for a trip out to the boat. But he he was wearing them while sleeping, and he took them OFF to take Bruce out? Wow. Even funnier!

Yeah, I wouldn't want to carry the stretcher next to him. LOL.

Karuuna, ITA about why the team is treating Terry like crap, more because the truth hurts, and Terry has totally proven himself in the survival situation. Mind you, they didn't get to see everything he did at his original camp. But then again, he DID come in and totally set up the Casaya tribe, and made a bigger shelter for them. I think they really are acting smug. It must be pretty hard to live there all alone as a pariah. That's how they are (were) treating him.

Did anyone else think the medic was kinda hot? LOL

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
oh, i know bruce's case was much more than severe constipation. so was mine back in 1967. as a kid, i didn't know you could die from being blocked. i was positive in no way was it appendicitis because he had the same pain in all stomach quadrants and appendicitis gives you 'rebound' pain--it hurts more when you release the pressure on the area than when you push on it and it's lower right quadrant. i kept thinking they would use the stethoscope to listen for bowel sounds or lack thereof, especially if they knew he hadn't been able to defecate or urinate for several days. that's where bystanders come in handy. i didn't hear courtney or shane tell the EMS that bruce had severe stomach pain, was unable to go for days, had become significantly worse in a short period of time, was unable to eat anything, etc. it sure helps to get some background quick during an emergency. cirie would have been a help, i'm thinking...
i 'disliked' terry for getting rid of dan, but i 'like' him based on his having to be alone against the others.
and does shane not remember that there were 4 tribes at the beginning, so he could not have been in an alliance for final 4 with any females
'from the start'?
he reminds me of robert deniro in 'cape fear' when he gets his crazy look :-)

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 21, 2006 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i always had a thing for emergency personnel until i became one! then i saw how many affairs and major flirtations were going on and i was a little like terry: excellent at my job but not playing the same as most of my co-workers! at least they didn't ostracize me for it :-)