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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:29 pm
Raenstorm!! So sorry you were sick! Did you pick something up on your flights?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:32 pm
I don't know who wrote this (but since I found it on the internet it must be true!!!) "The important thing to remember about sashimi is that the fish should be saltwater fish, not freshwater fish. (Freshwater fish may contain parasites that are killed by cooking. Saltwater fish do not contain these parasites.) I would not eat raw freshwater fish, but would not hesitate to eat raw saltwater fish." Anyone know how true that is? (that saltwater fish is okay to eat raw?)
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:32 pm
Maybe Raen ate some raw fish!!!
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Gradstudent
Member
07-10-2005
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 9:22 pm
Surely if there was some danger in eating the fish raw, the survivor folks would have stopped them from eating it...maybe? I can't remember all the details, but on another season, weren't they stopped from eating the pelican that someone killed because of the parasites it carried? Please correct me if I am wrong...
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Weeniewhiner
Member
07-22-2005
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 9:23 pm
Sea, I heard Jeff say that, too. That was weird.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:05 pm
I know that halibut can have "fish lice" which is what I think Gemma was referring to. They are like these little round worms, that are present in a lot of WHITER fishies. Not salmon, not tuna. From what I understand, the fish lice is a mutualist, not a parasite, so it's OK for them to be in the fish body. But only thorough cooking makes them "invisible". I asked the old chef, at the seafood restaurant I work at, about them a couple of years ago, and he said they were normal, and you just have to make sure white fish is thoroughly cooked. I don't think halibut is freshwater though. ============================== OK, my comments on the show. I didn't like Cerie at first, but this whole show is filled with people I dislike on BOTH tribes, that I am actually pulling for only her and Orest. I REALLY admire her ability to sit there quietly, and patiently, letting the rest of the tribe pick itself apart. I HATE the fire dancer. OK. Hate is a strong word, that you should only pull out in extreme circumstances. I HATE the fire dancer. I feel violent watching her.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, March 03, 2006 - 10:17 pm
I think from a nutrition stand point, the beans are a better idea. Beans will provide both protein and carbs, as well as vitamins and minerals. Rice, if whole grain, will provide carbs, vitamins and minerals--but no protein. I think they had two mistakes though. They didn't mash them up to be easier on their digestive system, and more importantly, I'm will to bet they ate WAY too much! Eeyore, you are correct that halibut is not a fresh water fish.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 2:13 am
I agree that beans are more nutritional BUT when you are in a weakened or starvation mode, you have to go easy on your system.. that is why after a long fast, or after a starvation situation (e.g., concentration camps) you cannot give hard to digest foods or it may actually kill the starved person.. and after a long fast you start with liquids. Rice is more digestible. But they still could have chosen the beans and stretched them out for quite a long time.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 9:38 am
Rice is more digestible. But they need protein if they want to compete in any physical challenges. Their mistake, as we all seem to agree, is not in their choice but in the way they prepared the beans. Honestly, I probably would've added anything I could find, including any greens that may have been around. They have food there, I'm sure they had that week of training beforehand where they learned what they could and couldn't eat. Heck, I'd even throw mango in to sweeten the pot, so to speak. I really think most of these survivors are the most clueless ever. The entire tribe that got flooded out, yet continued to keep their shelter in the midst of the flood plain. Is that also the tribe who cannot seem to keep their fire lit? Really, you have only a few priorities: shelter, water, food, fire. And you kind of want to be sure that two of those items are kept dry (shelter, fire). I no longer eat seafood (lacto-ovo veggie now), but I used to eat fresh fish. Straight off the hook, there is nothing like yellowfin. It tastes like the sea... fresh and lovely. And I agree... had the fish been hazardous to their health, I'm sure the producers would've stopped 'em. The producers won't allows the survivors' own stupidity to put them in danger.
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Gradstudent
Member
07-10-2005
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:23 am
Thank you, Costacat...
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 10:43 am
YUMMMM! Yellow fin! That reminds me how much I miss seafood! I was born and raised on a sub-tropical island, now I reside in the middle of seven hills.... DH used to eat some fish when we first met in NYC. Now that he's back in the bosom of dairy country, he'd claim he had developed allergies to fish and would only eat shrimp and lobster now(I say he's not telling the truth but what can I do!). I have a good relationship with the seafood dept in the bigger supermarket around here. The lady will call me when they get jet-fresh, sashimi grade tuna. But I have to admit I'm not sure I'd be able to eat them raw w/o knowing anything about the fish. Hopefully, gradstudent up there is right that the outcasts could trust the producer(whom may have advisers on scene) to stop them from killing themselves.... But Costacat is so right. In fact, different posters had been pointing that out this season: These outcasts seem to have no clue about what's involved to survive. Really, shelter, fire, water and food. If there's not enough ideal spots to sleep, take turns. Water and fire are provided! They do have to make sure to keep fire wood dry. If they'd earn some rice or beans, better keep those dry too.(Well, I might try to grow some bean sprouts.) As for food... one does need to have a bit more knowledge, but there are a lot of roots, leaves and stems out there that are edible. The papaya they'd found earlier has a great enzyme that will break down protein. (That's not from any scientific source, just learned this from grandma who used to throw some papaya or citrus thing in the pot while chanting things like that...) Well, I suppose these people do entertain us some how, wonder how many viewers they are still keeping from going head on with AI?
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Oceanelvis
Member
07-21-2005
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 12:03 pm
In raw fish you usually can see the parasites (worms) in the flesh. Cold water fish tend not to have as many worms as warm water fish.
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 1:26 pm
no fish for me tonight LOL re the beans, they can be hard to cook. I know I cooked a pot once, for hours & hours, & they were still hardish. And that is on a real stove. Then I read that if you add sugars, I think, it makes the beans harder to cook, so maybe they added something that helped prevent the beans for becoming mushy & easier to digest.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 1:47 pm
Having been a vegetarian for a long time, I learned that most whole dry beans are far more digestible if you soak them first. I usually soak overnight, and then cook the next day. Discarding the soaking water reduces digestive upset (uh, gas); but also discards some of the nutrients. I've also used a faster method, bring them to boiling and let them soak for an hour in the hot water. But I haven't had as good results with this method.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 3:26 pm
I agree that only salt water fish is safe to eat raw. Lancecrossfire, according to my box of Uncle Ben's rice, 1 serving has: fat 0.5 gm carb 41gm fiber 1gm protein 6 gm.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 3:31 pm
if there is a fire available i will not eat raw fish period.
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Sallycat22
Member
08-31-2005
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 4:03 pm
Read "Tortilla Flats" by Steinbeck It ties in with the choice of beans. good read too
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 5:37 pm
I am still trying to figure out why they let Shane call the shots. I wonder if they questioned Bruce about the IA, they never showed them talking about the possiblility of him having it when they were going to vote him out
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 7:10 pm
Pamy, at this point I think Shane just thinks he is calling the shots. They manipulated him pretty well this week. I loved how they so sweetly told him, 'You were right, Shane. We realize that now. You were right, Shane and now we are agreeing with you.' He couldn't even argue with them after that. He just sat there and looked dumbfounded.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, March 04, 2006 - 8:33 pm
Off subject,but if you ever get the chance to watch the original Tortilla Flats, with spencer tracy,heady lamarr...Oh its just great...read the book to...but just a great film...
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 7:58 am
I ate alot of Sushi last night. I love Spicy Tuna Rolls. The Red Snapper is great! and believe it or not, Octopus is rather tasty.
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 12:31 pm
sushi is one thing, but raw fish on the bone is another YUK!!! I agree they should have pre soaked the beans to make them tender. Beans can be hard ro cook
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 6:15 pm
Chy, if your fish monger in your local supermarket tells you the fish is fresh, go for it! When I used to buy fresh fish for sushi, they always knew what I wanted. And if the ahi wasn't fresh that day, they'd tell me. So if she's calling you to tell you a jet fresh shipment is in, go for it! (FWIW, I used to make sushi for dinner, wrap up the leftovers really well in plastic wrap -- basically, put a roll back together and wrap it up -- and bring it for lunch the next day. And I've never gotten sick off of any sushi that I had made.) I've had the same experience as Kar with beans... the quick soak method doesn't seem to work quite as well. I soak overnight, toss half the liquid out, add more fresh water, and then start cooking. Oh, and Uncle Ben's? Isn't that rice with additives? I never buy anything but fresh basmati or brown rices, and they don't come in a package that you cook up instantly. 
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 7:37 pm
Yea, at least somebody read my Uncle Ben's comment. Rice is used as the protein source in limited antigen diets like lamb/rice. Rice darn well better have protein.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 7:56 pm
LOL Dogdoc. OK, so I just went and looked at the package of rice I have in the cupboard. It has only 3 grams of protein per serving. I think that's "insignificant" which I why I never think of rice having protein. So I was wrong. Sorta! Anyways, I'd still pick beans over rice! 
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