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Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 12:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Yes, Terry voted for Aras for the 4th straight time. It looks like they've both gotten under each other's skin.

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
Biscottiii ~ thanks for the terrific points. I'd at first hoped 'anyone' from the Old Male or Old Female silly teams would win but now I just hope it's not Cirie. Bruce was an early fave but he crushed my hopes when he did not rejoin Terry at merge time. Safe numbers outweighed respect? I think Bruce was too weak and was his new team's weakest link and knew that. He was safe as long as they needed a swing vote. He got ill so we'll never know how it might have played.
Yes, Terry did vote Aras and why not? He was odd man out in a new merged tribe, followed instincts to oust the alpha male first among a very tight set of players. Only Shane lied and said voting Aras was a good plan and he'd ask Danielle to do so for a 3 vote Aras oust. As we now see Shane's intent was getting Danielle out leaving Terry dry and dumb as ever with his solo Aras vote.
No matter if the 'most deserving' wins, I think Terry's one of the best dynamic and honest older players who earns the title "Survivor". For his age & experience & effort he earned the right to stay and win against despicable odds. I'm just sad some mistake his mature confidence as a kind of arrogance not in his nature. Do we forget little Johnny Dalton "Fairplay" and Rupert?
Much as I liked Cirie at first she's more suited to a Big Brother atmosphere where 'surviving' is about backstabbing, not wimping that eeew, these leaves have bugs on them! Cute, yes, not funny why she's still there except as a swing vote either...

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
I agree with Terry about the spouses. Aras did acted like a Mommy's boy. I have notice no one is saying anything about Terry winning a car, and when the find out S*** is going to fly. I voted for Cierce 4 times to win the second car. I feel it between Cierce and Terry, but knowing that Terry is going to win. Daniella should have been the one kicked out and she will this week I hope.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
On the Early Show, Bruce talked all about "his team" and how he had remained loyal (and was still loyal) to his team, so I don't think he's a vote for Terry.

I believe Courtney might be though. She was pretty upset by how she was voted out as well. And she had a thing for Shane, didn't she? All that jury time together might bond them.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Not that any of this matters if Terry isn't in F2 and I'm pretty sure the only way he can be F2 is if he continues to win every single immunity challenge.

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
Which he has been winning most of the immunity challenges, and plus he has the hidden immunity idol that he can use at any time after the vote so I am sure he will be in the final 2.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I thought the hidden immunity idol was only good until final 4.

Nancypj
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08-17-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancypj a private message Print Post    
I believe this next Tribal Council is the last time Terry can use the hidden II. So he will definitely be in the final 3.

Even though he said on the last show he can just relax for the next immunity challenge, he would be smarter to try to win it so he can use the hidden II as a bartering tool for whoever looks to be the target.

Misspoufy
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09-30-2004

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Misspoufy a private message Print Post    
Riviere~~I don't think Rupert belongs anywhere near the category that would contain Johnny Fairplay. Rupert had a marvelous work ethic, supported his team, and deserved to win. He is among my all time favorite players.

Johnny Fairplay on the other hand was one of the worst, <79> players ever to play the game of Survivor. His lie about his grandmother sealed his fate with me. He was already on my nerves over his attitude towards women in general, and he made no bones about stabbing people in the back when it suited him to do so, but then the lie about his grandmother...well, that made him one of the most "hated" players to me.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
And to a lot of other viewers, Misspoufy! Still can't stand Rupert, though. Ack!!!

Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 3:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sheilaree a private message Print Post    
Oh that is good news, so maybe he will only make it to the final 3

Biscottiii
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05-30-2004

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Thanks Folks for the feedback! However, you all brought up a QUESTION that my sister and I haggled over lastnight during our weekly longdistance "Survivor Quack". But so many of you say exactly the same thing that my sis said:

That Terry voted for Aras! She said she saw Terry holding his card during Shane's final words (I believe it was).

The CBS Voting History @ "cbs.com" says that Shane & Terry BOTH voted for Danielle & the other 3 voted for Shane. I rewound my VCR tape just now to confirm and dagnabit, I cut that part off in my rush to switch over to PBS Texas Ranchhse that nite.

BUT, I saw when I rewound back to Jeff counting the votes, Jeff says:
1 - Danielle
1- Shane
1- Shane
1- Shane the person voted out of Surv-Exile Island

No mention of any vote for Aras. I went back to Raen's notes, and she doesn't mention any votes for Aras either. So I'm confused. But there's too many TVCH people also saying the same thing - that Terry voted for Aras. So I'm inclined to think that CBS maybe did a typo.

My sister also said she didn't think Bruce would be the one to flip. Sis thinks it would be Courtney and viewing my rewound tape, Courtney DOES look very hostile. That wouldn't really surprise me, particularly since Terry wasn't the one who stabbed her in the back.

Another thing I saw in this re-watch just now....when Shane was voted off and saying that in one minute he would have a choc bar - - - Terry gave Shane a little salute to his forehead gesture, like a sign of respect. And Shane seriously made eye contact at that.

The others all appear to be smirking at Shane!

I truly don't want Aras or Danielle to win this. One acts like a whiney mommy's boy and the other appears as lazy as possible around camp like another Jenna. Wasn't it on Day -1 when the young men couldn't get a fire going, Aras was the one having them layer their hands in the air, conjuring instead to doing something productive before nightfall?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I'm so glad Shane is finally gone. I've been wanting him gone since the second episode. And I hope Terry wins the whole thing <77>. I think anyone who has won as many challenges as he has, has played the best game and deserves to win.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Bisc, from what I remember when they showed them holding up who they voted for, I am pretty sure that Terry did write down ARAS. FWIW. I so hope that Terry does not win.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needmylifeback a private message Print Post    
Terry did vote for Aras .. I still have the tape (I think.. LOL!) .. Jeff just didn't show that vote ... If he had then Shane would have been positive that he was backstabbed by his tribe. There was a little creative "withholding of evidence" ... to cause speculation! ...

Scoutmom
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01-19-2006

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scoutmom a private message Print Post    
We rewatched our tape and Terry did vote for Aras.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Yes, very creative. There were five votes, so they either could have shown votes for:
Aras, Danielle, Shane, Shane (Shane out, last vote not revealed) and Shane would have known at least two of his tribe voted for him (he would guess the Aras vote was Terry's and knew Danielle's was his own) OR
Danielle, Shane, Shane, Shane (Shane out, last vote not revealed) and Shane would have known all three of his tribe voted for him (presuming he knew Terry would be voting for Aras).

Interesting that they chose to reveal the full tribe anti-vote rather than leave him wondering which had turned and which hadn't. I think it's bad for Cirie (only in terms of getting Shane's vote if she were in the final two), she's the one he'd most likely assume would have stuck with him in the end, imo. Also good for Terry, he might get Shane's vote at final two because of this.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Didn't they have to show three Shane votes for him to be eliminated?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Yes. Jeff would have to show that the third vote was for Shane (or it could have hypothetically been for Cirie, but still needed to be shown).

This is the first time I can remember Jeff not showing at least 1 vote for everyone who received votes. I would think they would show all the votes to avoid accusations of tampering with the game.


Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, you're right, if they pulled out Aras then Danielle then Shane then Shane they would have had to pull out that last Shane vote anyway, in case the vote was for either Aras or Danielle, which would have produced a tie. That's even more strange, they would have revealed the three votes either way so why did they choose not to show the Aras vote? Maybe they didn't want Shane to know whether Terry voted for him or not. Odd.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I recall them doing that before (not pulling all the votes). Probst's standard line is: "That's all we need ….".

What bothers me is they seem to do it at random.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
I agree that Jeff often does not pull out all the votes, but usually all the remaining unseen votes are for the person just voted off.
I have never seen him hide the fact that someone received a vote.


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I find it odd, too, Bob. Usually Jeff would want to stir the pot and make sure they saw that they got a vote and get them to questioning who it was?

Maybe they just edited that out?

Spear
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08-06-2001

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Yes, it's quite rare for Jeff not to read all the votes for the person(s) *not* going home but it has happened before. I found this: link

S2, Ep 5: Kimmi was booted; Kimmi voted for Jeff but no votes for Jeff were shown
S3, Ep 5: Silas was booted; Silas voted for Frank but no votes for Frank were shown
S6, Ep 4: Joanna was booted; Jeanne/Joanna voted for Shawna; Shawna voted for Christy but no votes for Christy were shown

This omission could have been critical in earlier seasons because previous votes were used as tiebreakers.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Spear!