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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I'm just thrilled they got rid of Jamie!!! I couldn't believe him telling the team to keep trying when the others had clearly won. It reminded me of the time he totally blew it with cutting the rope with the stone.

Is anyone else sick of them making challenges in the mud? How many have they had so far there? It sure seems like a lot. It may not be the best environment, but do we have to have mud involved so often?!

Tess
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04-13-2001

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
I loved Judd's reaction too, Tish. That was the next best thing to that boot itself.

Tess
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04-13-2001

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
Ok, I just finished rewatching the show from IC to the end. I watched with and without closed captioning on and Jamie clearly said "Later!" at the end when he passed Jeff. The "n" word wasn't editted out because Jamie never said it.

Watching, I'm tired of the mud. Iike the water challenges but I guess they can't do those this time around. Oh well.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
What Tess said.

I had read this thread before watching the show, so I was looking for what Jamie said. It was clear to me that he said, "Later."

I am so doing the HAPPY DANCE! Not that I wanted Jamie to go, I just didn't want Gary to go. Boy oh boy, it would have been interesting to see how that discussion came down. Especially since Judd wasn't in on it.

I think this is a great season. Unpredictable, that's what I like.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 2:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
aahh Tish how could I have doubted you!!

I forgot about Judd's face, that was funny!!

Pagal
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08-16-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 4:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pagal a private message Print Post    
I loved the s**t-eating grin on Gary's face when he realized that Jamie had been voted out instead of him. Priceless.

Loved Judd's jutting eyeballs too - he is not a happy camper.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jen a private message Print Post    
Judd's reaction was classic. Sooo glad they got that on tape. He was SHOCKED! And with the votes, everyone voted for Jamie except for Jamie and Judd so Judd was the only one who didn't know.

I also heard Later too as he walked away. Nothing inappropriate there.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 4:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
They made a mistake not telling Judd their plan to vote out Jamie. Maybe he would have told Jamie but that would not have changed the outcome.

Now he can't trust them and is likely to team with Gary and Danni. It would be easy to convince Cindy to join them leaving Steph, Rafe and Lydia in the minority.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I will add that Judd was a solid and trustworthy alliance member. There was NO need to not inform him. NONE. He had no special bond with Jamie. Jamie irritated him too. He is playing for himself with his eye on the win. This kind of player is valuable to keep close.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
They will probably vote off Judd next...hence keeping him out of the loop.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I hope you are right Ms Bat...I wasn't looking forward to the pagonging...

I think people were remembering Judd's bullish nature when crossed. Remember his actions with Margaret, he can VERY VOCAL and make life uncomfy if he feels he is being crossed. I don't blame the other tribe members from excluding him from the vote... He would have made such a fuss, it would have gotten back to Jamie.



Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I thought Judd and Jamie had a final two deal.

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cndeariso a private message Print Post    
i missed the previews for next week. what did they show other than judd being upset for not knowing jamie was going?

Jami
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10-08-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
Someone above wondered if Jamie and Bobby Jon had to be kept in different hotels since they seemed to hate each other so. When Bobby Jon was on TES he said that he and Jamie had made up and were best friends,,,something along the line of I could call him anytime and he'd be right there for me.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I find it amazing that Bobby Jon and Jamie didn't get along... they are so much alike!!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Karuuna, I had forgotten or not picked up on that. I doubt they let the others know but maybe they hung out together enough to raise that suspicion.

Kep, very true that Judd is unpredictable. I still say that even if he told Jamie the outcome would have been the same only they would not have lost his trust.

Gary and Danni were fools not to have pushed for a hard deal during the reward. Gary's casual proposal was just not enough. They were planning on voting out Jamie anyway so now Gary has a false sense securtiy. He is a threat and not safe at all! Fools, both of them. They blew a great opportunity to push a plan and get a handshake.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I haven't watched this ep yet, but I would think that Judd may be standing on shaky ground. His behavior hasn't been the most exemplary. He's out and out lied (for no real reason), he's been a sloppy drunk (denying he hurled in the shelter), he's been loud and obnoxious... Unless someone starts thinking that he may be an easy person to win against in F2 (and that may be a hard row to hoe since he is physically stronger than many others still there).

I really do think Judd needs to watch his step. And if he reacts as he has in the past when he's perceived to have been crossed, he may just seal his fate next week.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Ms Bat... I believe Judd would have tried, (and possibly succeeded) in "bullying" a tribe member or two to not vote for Jamie. While its possible it may not have changed the outcome, I think the tribemembers who wanted Jamie gone didn't want to risk it.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Good point, that makes sense, Kep.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I had to miss last night's show. How did the argument between Gary and Jamie go? I am not surprised that they voted out Jamie. They still have the numbers to follow their plan. I was surprised that they did not tell Judd. That could cause some real problems in their alliance. I am hoping that they do not see Gary as being as big a threat in the challenges as Judd. He has not won very many. I would hate to see Gary go. I have really enjoyed watching him play the game.

I got to thinking about it this week and I wonder how many of them actually went out looking for the idol. They really only showed Gary and Judd that last week. I would have been out there eight hours a day. Even if I did not think I was in danger, I would have been looking down the road.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I am loving Gary more and more. He is a great player. Mature, smart, loyal, crafty and ALWAYS nice! I would love to see him win this one.

I like Cindy and Lydia too, but they are weaker players, and won't get much further in the game, I'm afraid. They just seem like nice people to me.

Stephenie is hanging in there to win. She is tough. But then, so is Danni. I think Danni surprises me the most as I thought she would collapse but she just keeps on going and going and she is strong.

It would be interesting to see Danni and Steph at the end. I wonder if Steph would get the votes or if others would resent her being able to have another chance at a million. She did have the advantage of having done this before.

Rafe is sweet and I see him the same as Lydia and Cindy. Gone soon because they are not cut throat enough to play to the end.

Judd will be gone soon, I think. He is abrasive and a negative force. I'm sure he won't make it to F2.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
I think Judd and Jamie did have a pact for final two. When Jamie promised Rafe final 3 on last nights show, I'm assuming Judd was his partner.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The problem with voting off one of your own, when you have the numbers, is... well, it's a crap shoot. It's possible that Gary and Danni could continually win immunity, meaning they would have to vote off one of their own. Doing what they've done could prevent the pagonging of Danni and Gary's former tribe. When people get too cocky is when they make mistakes.

Should be interesting to see how it plays out. If Gary wins next week, then it'll either be Danni or Judd. And I'd bet it'll be Judd to walk.

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I'd like to see the TC for a Steph and Gary F2. I think they would choose their words well when addressing the jury and would answer all questions pretty well.

I think the same for Danni and Steph, although I wonder of Steph would over power her.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Wonder if Gary would have to answer about the NFL suspicions? Truth or lie at the end?