TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . ABOUT US . CONTACT . CHAT  
Bomis   Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through November 12, 2005

The TVClubHouse: Survivor XI - Guatemala ARCHIVES: Survivor Spoiler Night November 10: Archive through November 12, 2005 users admin

Author Message
Kaili
Member

08-31-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Luloo, it's just a brief stupid thing of the person who got voted out's family all speaking the same lines at the same time telling the person how much they miss them and how great they are. I think it's funny to see their family saying they're doing great right as they're voted out. Not so great, eh?

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Regarding the Febreze Family moment: do you think they just didn't know they'd be using them for the people who just got voted off? I mean, if they'd known how they'd be used before they were shot, they could have directed the families to record a message a little more appropriate (like not wishing them well in the game). Like on Big Brother where they have people in the house record messages ahead of time to play for the evictees.

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Okay, Gary told Jamie he would vote with him, so maybe Jamie misunderstood and that's where the argument between the two comes in next week.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
My tivo got fried in a power surge so I have no way to look up the 6"idol rules. I understood it to be theirs to make it to the final 4, as well. However he handed it back to Jeff so that must not be the case. A one shot deal is not all that interesting. Perhaps they will toss them another opportunity for a secret immunity.

Interesting dynamic going on now. There are always a few under the radar but this season there is an extreme split. The quiet bright non playing castaways vs obnoxiously out there irritants.

Dani and Gary better hustle to break up the six and Cindy better start securing her future as well. The promo implies that Lydia is torn as to where to place her new loyality.

I have not wavered in rooting for Stephanie. She is playing hard and I appreciate that.

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
From Babyruth's spoiling last week:

quote:

OK, the twist is there is a six inch stone immunity idol hidden in the jungle for anyone to find. Whoever finds it can keep it to use at any tibal council for themself or someone else. (use it once)

Do not have to let anyone know if you find it.




And if you want some interesting retrospective, go check out the convos in that thread. Auntimike thought someone would find it, keep it secret, and whip it out at tribal. Maris thought it'd be interesting if the person who found the mini idol also had won immunity that week, and so sat on the mini. Fruitbat also thought the same thing. (Did they ever say when Gary found the mini?)

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Secret scene from The Early Show shows:

Walking around a big tree, Gary says to the camera: "I've been looking in this tree because that's an ancient Maya — they worshipped these trees. Lo and behold, I see the idol. I do have to expose Judd, lying to the group about it being on the ground. This is highly secret. I'm going to keep it till I need it, which could be tonight. I'm going to keep it in my pants' pocket until I get back to camp. I'm excited. This is good stuff."

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ah ha! So he found it now, not last time when he had immunity.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I am wondering how the team is going to split in different alliances. Jeff promised a lot of backstabbing and we are about to see that. Judd and Jaime will supply that entertainment, I bet.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
My favorites as survivor's are Rafe, Steph, Lydia,Gary and Cindy.
Jamie has me baffled, what the heck is he doing?
Judd, didn't like him too much before last night and now can't stand him and his love for liquor.
Bobby Jon, hun, Steph beat you last time and this time and you are just jealous.

You know I had a feeling that Gary had found the idol when they showed him, after spying on Judd, walking back to camp. He was just walking and looking down deep in thought and they showed Judd looking toward him.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I caught that too, Denecee. It was a dead giveaway Gary found it. Slap on the hand to the editors.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I thought the II could be used over and over until final 4.

I wonder if they re hide it

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
That would give them something to do instead of going

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah, I wanted to comment on Judd inviting Bobby Jon and Step to share his win.
If he was a nice person, he would have invited Dani and Gary. They look like they are starving to death!

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Ok, one more thing. The guy out in the warehouse says that Gary said to Jamie "My vote is you." but I thought he said, "My vote is with you, whatever you vote, I'll vote."
Can anybody remember?

Dfennessey
Member

07-25-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
I thought I understood Gary to say he would vote for whoever the majority was voting for like he wanted to save his but for another couple of days

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I heard Gary say "My vote is with you" because I remember thinking Gary was starting to suck up because he knew he might be the one to go. I don't believe he would have been dumb enough to tell Jamie he was voting against him.

Nickovtyme
Member

07-29-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Gary told Jamie that he was voting with him.

He was trying to explain to Jamie that he would do what he needed to, to stay in the game and that meant voting *with* him.

Either Jamie got it all wrong, or Jamie was putting up a smoke screen in case he didn't win immunity...which is what I believe he was doing.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I told the guy in the warehouse to check his dvr. I think ya'll are correct.

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I've got to quit erasing my dvr on these shows immediately after watching them.

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Yeah, that was my understanding too. He said he would vote WITH Jamie and the rest of the large group to save his hide as long as possible. That's why I was so annoyed with Jamie when he went and said the opposite to everyone. OK, I was MORE than annoyed!

Steph isn't my favorite but she doesn't bother me like she does a lot of the people here.

Teachmichigan
Member

07-22-2001

Friday, November 11, 2005 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I still have it tivoed and Gary said he would vote WITH HIM, whatever Jamie & Co. wanted to stay in game. Jamie completely and totally lied about it. Don't think his giving up food was a totally selfless act either.

DH and I rewatched original mention of 6" immunity idol -- and it could be used any time up until the final 4. Didn't indicate that it could be used more than once or would be available more than once.

We cheered rather loudly when Gary produced that mini idol! Our hometown boy is still in it (and I completely agree w/him -- how fun is it to sit and watch anyone get drunk? Especially if you're starving and they're pigging out)

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
So do y'all think Jamie intentionally lied about what Gary said? Since it meant that Gary would leave before Bobby Jon, and I would've thought Jamie wanted Bobby Jon outta there? I couldn't quite figure it out. I definitely heard Gary say he'd vote WITH Jamie and the rest of the six. Then Jamie turns around and tells the others that Gary said he'd vote FOR Jamie. Since there weren't any confessionals of Jamie saying how he tricked the rest, I kinda thought, well... OK, I'll admit it. I thought he was kinda slow in understanding the nuances of what Gary was really saying. (I'm being real polite here, too! <grin>)

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Costa, either that or he is succeeding in perfecting his acting abilities. IMO, Hollywood better watch out!

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Costa, I saw it the same way you did. I thought he misunderstood. I just don't see Jamie as that much of a strategist. Granted, he could just have me fooled, but I really thought he was genuinely upset that Gary would tell him he was voting for him, not that he was lying to get the others to turn on Gary (because I really think he could have gotten them to vote out Gary without lying. Gary's Yaxha, they are picking Yaxha off, they don't really care what order, and Gary has performed better than BJ in all challenges making him a noticeable physical threat, as noted by Steph). I think there was another moment, where he said something like "I can't believe he'd just say it like that" when he wasn't talking to his tribemates...it was just an aside...not sure if it was confessional or not. I just seem to vaguely remember that being what convinced me that he wasn't lying. He just seems really paranoid to me, which wouldn't make sense at all if he understood what Gary had said. I just...I just don't see him as that crafty. And I do believe that if he was, he'd have bragged in a confessional and they'd have shown it.

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Whew! Thanks Cd! That was kinda my impression, too. I mean, I was being real polite, but was kinda thinkin' Jamie is not the sharpest tool in the shed. I really did think he was confused, and I kinda wondered if he was smart enough to lie as he did.

Now, Judd on the other hand. Yeesh! And saying it's on the ground, but then getting busted by Gary as he looked in the trees. I would so love for Gary to call him out, but I think Gary won't. He'll play it safe. At least until it's safe for him to call Judd out.

Then again, Gary actually has lied. He's been asked point blank if he was the football player, and has said he's not. Granted, it's not really about the game. Still...

I really didn't like Judd much before, and after Thursday's show, I really don't like him lots. I think it was unnecessary to lie about what the clue said. (And I really detest people who get sloppy drunk!)

Anyways, it kinda brings me to a moral/ethical question... Yes, it is necessary to lie to get further in the game. But would YOU lie when it wasn't necessary? Would you do what Judd did? Pretend like you're being real helpful and disclose a secret, but intentionally lie about what the clue was all about?

I have a problem with that, and I'm not really sure why. It just left a real funny taste in my mouth. Like it was an unnecessary lie.