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Whoami
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08-03-2001

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Had to LOL at the Tosterone thing. Then he beats his chest and puffs up, and then they switch to a clip of that howler monkey sounding off. Too funny!

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Hehehe... I noticed that too, Who! I cracked up when he said tosterone!! DUH!

Symphonyus
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07-09-2005

Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Symphonyus a private message Print Post    
That was funny! I'm glad he voted with Steph. The nurse just gives me flashbacks of that cult of women from last year. Yuck! It might come back to bite him in the a** but I don't think so. He might finally be Steph's good luck fortune cookie! And God knows, she needs one!

Padivius
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08-21-2003

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 6:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Padivius a private message Print Post    
Margaret actually gives me flashbacks of Jerri... I hope she doesn't turn into that...

Even the way she looks sometimes... and her smile...
ugh...

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I would have thought throwing a hammer at a tile would have been a slam dunk for a former NFL quarterback...does anybody else thing that Gary didn't participate on purpose? Good thing his team won...

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I think it was great that the tribe that spent time throwing the other boat off course (to get a lead) in the immunity challenge, was the one that lost.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well the whole switch thing totally left me confused. I can't remember who was on each team before and after the switch.

I think Judd will regret his disloyalty...

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Azriel a private message Print Post    
I like Margaret. She's not trying to get a woman thing going, she was trying to keep her original team together. I think they could tell that Judd had already gone over. He's not too hard to read. I hope I get to see Judd regret his decision real soon. I can't stand him.

I've always wished they would do more switching up on the teams. It does keep them on their toes and will keep boring pagonging from going on.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Azriel - I agree that Pagonging is boring. But what strategy would you implement, if yo ucouldn't rely on any alliances, or make lasting friendships? What good is proving yourself to some tribemembers one day, only to have completely different tribemates the next day, and they don't know you or your work ethic.

While I think the Pagonging sucks, I think they could manipulate the game in other ways to prevent it. You could have two part immunity challenges, where the first part determines the TRIBE that is immune, and from there, give individual immunity too. Or, play a full on individual immunity, where a single person wins immunity, but the person that win's immunity sends their TRIBE to TC. That would throw them for a loop. Would you WANT to win immunity if it meant you'd lose a tribe mate? I'm not sure.

But I hate that no one can make long term relationships and alliances, without being switched up. What's the point of a tribe, if it doesn't even last 3 weeks? Why not just stick them all on an individual beach, and let them play a big game, like BB.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I liked the team switch too. This way they interact more with different teams and yes, perhaps it will keep the pagonging down to a minimum. It certainly will keep people from becoming complacent and think, if they go into another award challenge and Jeff starts asking them the same type of questions - how will that impact their answers? Do Stephanie and Jamie want to be broken up as a team - will they make sure they are able to stay together? (And wasn't it Jamie who was so negative about Steph being on his team in the first place - when did he have a change of heart?) I thought it was an interesting twist.

Marej
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09-20-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
I hope that Danni makes a few waves about Gary.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Hmmm, I wonder if they'll keep switching tribes every three weeks. That'd be kinda cool.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I like that they are voting out the weaker players. Step up to the plate people or you are outta here!
I still like Steph. She seems to be enjoying herself, why? Crazy girl!
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that her team's luck will change.

Alliet
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07-11-2005

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alliet a private message Print Post    
I think that Gary abstaining from the throwing was done on purpose. I wish his team had lost so that they could see what a weaselly act that was. Even our 12 year old was asking why he wasn't throwing if he was a QB and wanted his team to win. His lies are going to come back and bite him in the butt. Why can't he tell the truth and say that he's not rich?

Jedisan
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01-11-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jedisan a private message Print Post    
Alliet, i agree Gary's lies will come back to haunt him. As for not fessing up - I am not sure they would believe he is not at least wealthy. He most likely is financially secure, in that he probably does not have to worry about how his bills will be paid. However, whether or not that opinion is true, the other contestants might see it that way and it may be enough reason to vote him out (particularly toward the end, when you are looking for any reason whatsoever, and he is a definite physical threat). Run-on sentence finished
I like him on the show, but I also think he is there mostly for the experience and some publicity. Not really for the $.

Eeyore and Julieboo, keep in mind that the last contestant standing has spent a total of
(i think) 39 days on site.

Tribal Council is generally held every 3 days.

If that formula is true for this season, then what we saw last night took place only 9 days into the game. IMO, under those circumstances, it is quite easy to build alliances - we have seen even solid alliance built in that amount of time , with or without a switch.

Julieboo, be careful what you wish for. Can you imagine if they did switch up teams every three days? A huge psychological game of musical chairs.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
that is what konashark & i were discussing. each time they meet for reward they draw lots for which team they will compete. they stay with that team for immunity and the vote off (spending the three days with that same team). then the next reward challenge, they switch around again (randomly).

'squeek'

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I think that might be why JP said 'this will change the game forever'..referring to them doing it every 3 days, doing it every 3 days can be fun

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 07, 2005 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
The constant switching would cause everyone to always vote out the weaklings, so as to remain as safe/immune as possible.

If immunity was individual, but the immune individual's tribe had to GO to TC, then it would throw a wrench in the whole voting out of the weakest thing.

What would you do? Always throw the immunity comps, and know you weren't going to TC, or would you play as an individual, and go for that necklace every time?

Gradstudent
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07-10-2005

Saturday, October 08, 2005 - 12:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gradstudent a private message Print Post    
I like Lydia. I hope she stays for awhile...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, October 10, 2005 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
A coupla miscellaneous comments...

1. WRT to Gary's throwing... I think it might be a bit different throwing a football than throwing a paddle (the paddle is not gonna go in the straight line that a football would).

2. Danni... I'm not sure why, but she's one of my least favorite players. Maybe it's her attitude, but I really REALLY don't like that woman!

3. Judd... what a dope. I think he pulled the old alliance switcheroo too early. There was no way to cover up that he voted the way he did. Whether or not there are any more team switchings going on, he's now gonna be branded as someone who may be disloyal, and that means there won't be many who will trust him.

4. Switching... HAHA! If they do NOT make a habit of this, I think it's great that they did swap teammates out. Threw an element of surprise and "oh crap now what" into the game. I kinda doubt that they'll do many more switchups, cause of the merge (which always happens).

5. Voting out the weaker players... Whoo hoo! That means that there will be some interesting challenges in the future.

And oh yeah... Pagonging. Yeah, there should be a rule about that. As in, not allowing it somehow. And I do kinda feel sorry for Steph, to always be on a losing team.

BUT... has anyone else noticed how unequal the teams appear to be. Even before this switch up, Nakum seemed to have more (most of) the beefier guys. Yeah, OK, so they spent a lot of the first few days hurling all over the place. They seem to have recovered, mostly and seem to step up in challenges. The other team (can't remember how to spell it and too lazy to look it up) had almost all women plus a few guys that just didn't look like they'd last 39 days! It seemed pretty uneven to me, and even more so now. Judd is the strongest player on the new Nakum tribe. Most of the rest are not that strong.

Should make for an interesting few challenges...

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Isn't that what we've always complained about...that the weaker players hide under the radar and stay in the game and the strong players get voted out...this should at least keep it interesting, although hard to remember which players are which! Maybe it's all about making it more of an individual game than a team game from the start.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
They were fairly even until they introduced Bobby Jon and Steph into it. Then the one team seemed to end up with all the young stronger fellas.