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The TVClubHouse: Survivor XI - Guatemala ARCHIVES: **Spoilers -- Oct 20 Show **Spoilers: Archive through October 21, 2005 users admin

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Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Kar, another yep

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
"and some people are also speculating that Judd delibrately gave Rafe the answer to make sure Margaret didn't win immunity...."

That could be but I think it was also because he just couldn't keep quiet. I know if I see someone working on any kind of puzzle and the answer is screaming at me but not them it's really hard to keep my mouth shut. What was really frustrating was that it seemed Rafe wasn't getting it that Judd was giving him the answer.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I think Margaret and Judd are simply two people who just can't stand each other. Eh, it happens...Ever know someone who simply because they take breath and live, you are highly irritated? I believe that is the case for BOTH Judd and Margaret.

I also believe the reason Judd left is because he is the bigger bully, and I don't just mean size wise. Everyone in that camp doesn't want Judd's focus to be on them, so they are not upsetting the ogre. I know Judd was happy for his wide butt last night, seeing as how many pairs of lips were pressed firmly against it!!

I'm not really enjoying this version of Survivor and I think its because NONE of them are. I don't think there is one person, on either team, that is actually happy to be there!! Whats up with that? I'm sitting here watching a group of people who are acting like they would rather be anywhere but playing this game!!

I hope to heaven next season they pick people who actually ENJOY this kind of game...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Kep, I with you about the people seeming miserable. Have these folks never watched any season of Survivor? Do they think that the misery that some of the people go through is make believe? Or do they simply think they could do better? It's always easier to be an armchair quarterback. I'll be the first to admit that more than likely I probably would not stand a snowball's chance.

You can always tell which people are there to play the game and who are the models and actor wannabes.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
and Judd does have ADD!

Also I think it is so low class for Stephenie to repeatedly use the term "retard" or "retarded."

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
We all have our own perceptions of the game and I think by far Judd was the BIGGER bully.

He was more than likely acting immature, as is his wont and Margaret called him on it, telling him he had ADD and I'm sure it hit the mark, and he never forgot or forgave the remark, so he had it in for her after that.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
actually julieboo, i think he's ADHD. he's definitely hyperactive.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Men are called bullies and women b*tches, when tempers flair. I saw an argument, nothing more. The promo used the word bully and we are just repeating that. Judd had reason to be furious with Margaret! Intolerable in her rightousness. If Judd switched alliances to benefit her you would be damn sure she would approve.

I did not see anyone sucking up to Judd. They are all in the same alliance except Cindy! Margaret was the next to go no matter what happened. It was in stone.

We definately have seen upbeat moments and perhaps there are more but just not as interesting as the strife. It is in the hands of the editors.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 10:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
But he talks right over people...doesn't give them a chance to speak their mind and his whole attitude is of entitlement. Witness the fact he took the beer that was not his, justifying it by saying he'd earned it. In my eyes it's theft.

His entire demeanour, attitude and conduct towards other people is highly offensive in my eyes.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

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I found his attitude offensive too. He must get his own way quite a lot irl with these tactics, as he seemed to have no trouble being loud and braggy about his contribution, and angry enough that Jeff said he looked as thought he could strangle Margeret. He seems to have a chip on his shoulder and generally disatisfied with life.

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
I totally agree that Judd is a meathead...but in the game of Survivor, I would keep him as long as I could (for his strength), pretend to be his best friend, agree with everything he said and then drop his big ol butt as soon as I got the chance. And I think that a couple people on that tribe are going to do just that. He will dig his own grave. And he will be shocked as hell when it happens.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I guess what I found so offensive (sorry if that offends you!) is that he considers and has appointed himself "big guy" - not necessarily has he earned it. Yes, he is the biggest guy on that team and yes, on challenges that are geared to brute strength he has done well. But nobody likes a self-appointed king and I hope that comes back to bite him in his big wide butt! In the Gospel according to Judd he single-handed won that challenge last night. That kind of arrogance and stupidity drives me absolutely crazy so yes, I'm reacting to Judd on a personal level and personally I can't stand him (having said that though I would probably still not have voted against him to keep his bullying tactics from coming down on me). Hopefully his team will ride him like a show pony as long as they need him and then turn on him like I think he truly deserves.

Yes, Margaret was baiting him (to further her point - and I think she knew at the time that she was going one way or the other so she felt secure in saying whatever she wanted to say) but there was no need for him to prove exactly what Jeff was asking about - his lack of sportsmanship (and his misuse of that specific term grammatically was hilarious). I just think he showed his true colors as the jerk he probably is in real life.



Native_texan
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08-24-2004

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I thought Margaret was a nurse? Or she a psychiatrist also? In any event, she has certainly shown that she is not qualified to make a mental health diagnosis at first meeting. I agree with Landi. As the mother of a child with ADHD, I think that Judd passed ADD in a blur a long time ago. Regardless, I think she showed her arrogance at even making the remark.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
I think losts of people can recognize the symptoms of either without being qualified practitioners.

Margaret was obviously right on the money or Judd would have just shrugged it off.

His behaviour speaks for itself in any case.

Bbpeach
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07-07-2005

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
I'm just curious, and haven't seen mention of this anywhere..... Why was it that Rafe did not take part in the Big Ball challenge?? They made a point of saying that Lydia was sitting out the challenge, since Nakum had one more person, but then Rafe never had a turn. Shouldn't he have "had" to take a turn? In my thinking, I bet Bobby Jon & Brian could have probably beaten Rafe & Judd/or Jamie, so therefore someone on Yaxha would have had the immunity, not Rafe.

Anybody else wonder or know why he didn't have to compete?

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I agree with most everything RB and Roxip said...not sure about Judd having ADD, but he obviously was very offended that Marg. said he did. He seems super defensive about many things.

I do wonder if part of Judd going on and on in such an agitated way was because of the beer. Even if he wasn't drunk, it may have been still affecting him and his outspokenness.

I think Steph was only kissing up to him because she knew it was in her best interest to do so (and the team's best interest) because she knew he wouldn't be voted out at that time. Eyebrows or not , Steph does know how to play the game.

I wish Brian was still there. It amazes me that Amy didn't go. Sure, she did a great job...but for the team, I think voting her out would have been smarter at this time. Maybe they are too afraid of Brian's strength and likeableness to let him get to the merge.

Bobby Jon screaming during the challenge...whoa...

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
Gary didn't play either. They had to do rounds with 2 men, 2 women and one of each. The teams got to pick who filled those roles each round.

Delilah
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07-08-2005

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I don't think I have ever seen any other booted contestant shake everyone's hand like Brian did last night after he was kicked off.

That's a classy move and shows that really showed his sportsmanship. Makes me even more disappointed that we didn't get to see more of him.

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Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Would it be considered acceptable to tell a person "You must be mentally retarded." Of course not.

Maybe I'm just sensitive to that subject because it is a major part of my life. It's a term that is so casually tossed around that if a person exhibits just a little too much enthusiasm for someone's taste, they must be ADD or ADHD. I can't tell you how many people have told me that they believe their child is ADD/ADHD because the child doesn't want to go to bed one night or might not want to do their homework.

And it may be because Judd does suffer from that disorder that he became defensive.

I'll get off my soapbox now.

ETA: Don't forget that Judd had been drinking before Tribal Council.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Oh, I wanted to say something about Steph using the term retarded...(I can't stand that she does) It could be because she is so young. I hear this among the high school crowd quite frequently.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I agree Deliah, I didn't like him but I was very impressed at how he acted...definetly a classy exit.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
This is part of an intereview with Brian where he gave part of his strategy at the last TC....

http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article5800.art&page=1



"....There was a lot of strategizing that didn’t get shown on TV. I had what I called the 3-2-1 plan which was to split Nakum’s vote in order to avoid a tie. I wanted Gary and I to lie to Danni, Brandon, and Bobby Jon, saying we should vote for Amy because of her ankle. Brandon always felt badly voting for people so I told him it would be okay for him to vote for me because the four of us would vote for Amy. In actuality, with Nakum split two for Amy and one for me, Gary, Amy, and I would have a three person majority...."

That's why he told Rafe to give Gary immunity, because if Brian or Amy had gotten it, they wouldn't have been able to get any votes (or so he thought...he had no idea that Rafe's immunity decision wouldn't be shown to the others until AFTER the vote....)

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Margaret is a nurse and a nurse practitioner.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just came here to say that I really am disliking Steph this season. If she say something is "retarded" one more time, she'll officially fall of the list of people I like to watch. She is really offending me (and I don't know anyone who is disabled).

I also thought Judd was really a jerk. I understand why he's still there -- for his brute strength -- but he definitely talks over anyone who tries to talk, and kind of does try to intimidate. And if he had said "man" one more time during TC, I might've put my fist thru my TV!

I'm not surprised Amy didn't go. She really sucked it up last night and helped her team to win. Pain or no pain, she was a valuable asset to her team.


Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I thought I heard Jeff say re that big ball challenge that competitors for each round would be randomly drawn to make up the teams to fit the requirements? In some cases it wasn't necessary since there were only two women or two men. But I don't think I was hallucinating. No guarantees, of course :-)