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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:34 am
He said he was going to stick to his story. I don't know if he would follow through with that at F2. If I had to guess, I'd say he would follow it through and say no about being in the NFL.
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Oceanelvis
Member
07-21-2005
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:54 am
Good Question Rosie...we were discussing this last night. I'm sure if he gets to the final two the question would come up from the jury. However, I really think the way he has played with a lot of integrity..(cept this little white lie), will not hurt his chances of winning. the only problem occurs with who is the jury. If Danni and Gary continue on will the jury members still treat them as opposing tribe members or will they the juror be all into what happened to them by their own tribe members voting them off.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:31 pm
Hypermom, that's what I remembered too, that Judd and Jamie were trying to recruit Rafe for the final three, which is why I thought they already had made a deal with each other to the end.
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Biginjapan
Member
07-23-2005
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 3:06 pm
What i learned from last night....Rafe is a player...not a tag-a-long...good for him. He actually engineered the Jamie ousting.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 3:10 pm
Regarding Gary's secret, someone said on CBS (Morning Show? Early Show?) Show that they all knew Gary was NFL, but they didn't care, but I don't remember which player it was. Regarding Judd's expression, couldn't you just see him thinking that the whole game had just slipped out of his hands? Hahaha He thought he had complete control and in one vote, it was all gone. He was ready to pounce on someone. I like Gary for all the reasons stated by everyone else.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 4:14 pm
Rafe is becoming more and more a threat. He has won 3 challenges now, i think. I hope Judd does not go on to be the most hated winner of all time.
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Iheartkaysar
Member
08-16-2005
| Friday, November 18, 2005 - 5:12 pm
And I may not have heard this correctly, but I like how Gary handled the whole "Judd lied about where the idol was" situation; he didn't say, "Judd lied," he just said, "I found it up in a tree." The others could put the pieces together. Is this what he said? I thought it was odd none of the others mentioned Judd's lie.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 2:44 am
BiginJapan, That flew right by me. Rafe engineered the Jamie boot?
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 2:48 am
On Survivor Live, Jamie said that Gary did call Judd out on his lying about the mini-Idol's location. Judd's excuse was that he was just trying to "preserve his lead". Jamie did say that he was upset that Judd lied to him.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 4:36 am
I appreciate all who report back with information from Survivor Live and Yahoo. Thank you. I am on a modem, for the winter in Florida, and it is tedious to try and watch clips. So keep those reports coming! 
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 7:04 am
It could be the joke's on us. With the accusations made about who Gary is, maybe he's already admitted the truth and we're the only ones who don't know it yet.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:27 am
Fruitbat, Reality News Online has interviews with the booted players, as well as recaps of both Survivor Live and the extra clips from the CBS site. They are posted in different articles throughout the week. Since CBS changed the format for the clips, I haven't actually watched them, I just read the recaps of them each week.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 11:28 am
Thanks, Cdbga. Cadbiga, Cidbaga, Cedbega, Cadbega.............
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 4:20 pm
Fruitbat, I think Jamie's paranoia was really getting to Rafe. After the 9th time Jamie asked Rafe if he (Jamie) was safe, Rafe went to talk to Lydia who told him to talk to Stephenie. They didn't show the rest plotting. So yeah, I'd say Rafe engineered Jamie's boot. And I still think it may turn around and bite 'em in the butt. The all powerful six now five. Gary is a real contender, too, and could easily win ICs.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 3:07 am
Oh yes, butts will be bitten. I think it was a huge mistake not informing Judd. He is playing to win and if his alliance wanted Jamie out I dont think it would be a big deal to him. He is flexible and not attached to anyone as long as the plan afoot has him safe and in the loop.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 8:50 am
I agree, Fruitbat. Judd is going to become the next loose cannon. I hope it provides a chance for Gary to either lure some of them away from Judd to form a new alliance. Or if that fails to get Judd to help him form a new alliance. Lydia and Cindy have to know they are low on the totem pole in the alliance. If Gary could get both of them, or either of them and Judd to join him and Danny, they could turn the whole game around. Think, Gary, think!
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 9:49 am
Gary has already proven he is in capable of hustling an alliance. He missed the boat at the merge. It was time to move fast and reesbablish his bond with Steph and Rafe. Instead he shook hands with Dani, Brandon and BJ and vowed to stick together. That was just stupid because they were outnumbered. He missed another chance at the reward last week. It was time to offer a solid plan and get a handshake from Judd and Steph for F4. He half heartedly suggested they stick together to prevent those who were coasting a slot at the end. Very weak. If Gary is safe this week it will be because of Judd and through no effort of his own. Gary has turned out to be one of the poorest players because he had so many chances. Things look hot this week but some of that is promo hype. I expect to see Gary get the boot.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 10:09 am
Judd is a jerk but he is a better player and his own alliance did not see it. They had a solid trustworthy ally who would have been fine with voting Jamie off had he been part of the plan and his future secure. Steph, who I thought was a good player, is not. I never thought Rafe was and he isn't either. Judd shared the icon information with her. She should have seen that as trust and valued it. He did not share it with Jamie. Big clue he was with her. Big one. Now things are a mess. Judd, Steph, Jamie and Rafe had F4 in the bag. If they wanted Jamie out, and someone else in, they could have done that too, if only they included Judd.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 10:19 am
I think they should have voted out Judd while they had the chance. He is very strong in the challenges and they may not be able to vote him out down the road.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, November 21, 2005 - 7:43 am
I'm glad no one alliance is secure. This show becomes boring...something this season definitely does not need more of... when a strong alliance systematically picks off the other players... Lets here it for the "messes"
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, November 21, 2005 - 1:21 pm
I agree Kep, I should have added that I love the mess things are in. This is going to be interesting to the bitter end and it will be bitter.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, November 21, 2005 - 1:36 pm
I'm with you Keppers on this one. The only thing more boring than last year watching Steph and Bobby Jon's team get Pagonged, is when one alliance picks off another alliance within the same tribe. I love it when no alliance is 100% secure!!!!
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Biginjapan
Member
07-23-2005
| Monday, November 21, 2005 - 4:03 pm
If i was Judd i would be very nervous.....and look for other alliance options....if my alliance did not tell me what is going on, then that tells me i am last one on the totum pole.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 24, 2005 - 5:59 pm
Rafe wins immunity again. Good-Bye Gary. Lydia survives again 
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