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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:28 pm
Mark Burnett owns the show and makes the rules. His decision is final. They had a new problem and ruled on it. His decision is final. Maybe next season they will have a rule in place for tribemates that quit at jury time. Boy, that had to be a looooong TC.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:29 pm
Yep, I agree, they should have said if she quits, then that is it--no jury.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:05 pm
AP Headlines Horoscopes TV Listings Audio Books Rhapsody Online Music Tornell Quits 'Survivor'; Still on Jury Fri Apr 22, 5:15 PM NEW YORK - Quitters never win, but if they make it far enough on "Survivor," they get to be on the jury. Janu Tornell, 39, became the fourth person in "Survivor" history to quit the competition, but she'll still help decide the winner of the $1 million prize as a member of the nine-person jury - a heated issue the tribal council cameras didn't capture. "It wasn't to save Stephenie (LaGrossa) in the game," Tornell told The Associated Press Friday. "It ended up like that. At the same time, it was almost like a power play because I threw a wrench into their game." The former Las Vegas showgirl said host Jeff Probst didn't coerce her into departing "Survivor: Palau," although it may have seemed otherwise. "He aided me," said Tornell. "I was at the point where I thought, `I want to go, but I don't want to jeopardize being part of the jury.' I was still battling with `quitter.' I hate that word. But I did it. I laid down my torch. No regrets whatsoever." Viewers didn't see Tornell's concern about whether she would be on the jury if she quit the CBS reality show. After going back and forth for several hours, Tornell said Probst asked for a break in the filming. "The cameras stopped," said Tornell. "Tribal council got really heated. You guys didn't even get any part of that. (Probst) goes, `This is off the record. What's going on, Janu? What are you worried about?' And I said, `Basically, I don't want to lose my place in the jury. I don't know where this takes me." Tornell said Probst left the tribal council area and consulted with producers. (The three players who quit "Survivor" in previous seasons departed before juries were formed.) "It was all a new drama situation for everybody involved," said Tornell. Probst returned and assured Tornell that she wouldn't forfeit her place on the jury by quitting. The cameras started back up, and Tornell did just that. Now, as a jury member, she'll be on the lookout for the player "who I thought played the game the best." --- On the Net: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor10/ E-mail this article Printer-friendly version Copyright © 2005 All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Legal Disclaimer
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:28 pm
I keep hearing the tribemates refer to Katie as being the class clown and making them laugh,,,why haven't we seen any of it?? I think they have only shown bad sides of her cuz I don't even like her and have never thought of her as funny.
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Mickiej
Member
07-26-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 8:36 pm
Actually Katie is a smart girl, with lots of personality. As for being the class clown, I could see that in her. As for her time on the show, she has been lucky and stayed under the radar. Its been great to watch a cousin on TV.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:29 pm
katie is a disappointment to merced county. so many of us were waiting for this show, reading the papers about katie, our 'local' participant. and then she does nothing...avoids or does poorly at challenges, etc... at work and among friends, we don't even bother to discuss her any more. i don't even think there is a friday update in the paper from katie anymore. people i know are on to other contestants and their 'game' play. if i were you, i wouldn't tell people she is your cousin!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 10:52 pm
why not? I'm always glad to hear a different perspective on people. We see what MB and CBS wants us to see, and increasingly we're seeing that what we see is not always the truth. Post away, Mickiej, there are some of us with open enough minds to want to read it.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:25 pm
Mickie, what would you like us to know about Katie? I don't mean telling anything you might know (and assume that she can't reveal anything to you ahead of time anyway, right?), but just about her.. what made her want to go on Survivor? How does she feel so far about her portrayal?
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 11:32 pm
I would like to hear more too, Mickie. 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 5:03 am
quote "I think they have only shown bad sides of her cuz I don't even like her and have never thought of her as funny." ...that part of my post referred to the editing she is getting What I was trying to convey is that I keep hearing them say how fun she is,,,,,,,why isnt MB showing us that side of her????? That is my question
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 5:36 am
I get so sick of MB showing what he wants us to see and not what the people are really like. I'd love to hear what she's really like because so far they haven't shown her as much of anything.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 7:01 am
Thanks for joining the discussion Mickiej. Count me in as someone who would like to hear more about Katie! 
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 7:19 am
Oh Mickie... us TVCHers love scoop on anyone. Post away!!!
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 10:04 am
Help!! I am trying to watch yesterday's Survivor's Live archived show and it just doesn't want to play for me. It acts like it will start but then doesn't. Has anyone else been experiencing problems or been able to watch it? It worked a few weeks ago. Any tips are greatly appeciated. Thanks!
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:28 am
Thanks, Seabreeze, for sharing the interview. That clears alot up. The reason I've liked Survivor from the first season is that it is like an alien picked out a micro-portion of our society and put them together on an island to observe how they'd behave. And let's face it, in our society things are never fair. Watching Survivor can be frustrating because you see personalities get ahead who are similar to people you work with - people who have been promoted without earning it or shouldn't be there to begin with. In watching Survivor, we can root each week hoping for the game to play out how we feel would be most fair and just. Sometimes we rejoice in our perception that justice has won and other times we get pissed because it's 'just like what those people at work do!' Either way, my human nature keeps me watching. I don't think there's a single person who ever deserves to win it more then someone else in the game - I just see it as preferring certain people over others based on different sides of their personalities that we see. With that said, in my perfect world, Ian will be up against Tom in the end and Ian's goodwill will win out over Tom's brawn. Go Ian!
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:58 am
Kappy, can I live in your perfect world with you? 
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 2:10 pm
I can only think Katie is getting a bum rap in the editing. They say she is amusing, but MB doesn't show it.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 2:28 pm
That's what I was trying to say, Juju!
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 5:31 pm
I really really don't like how much Jeff is manipulating at tribal council this year. I think he is going too far. It's bad enough that he runs his mouth in the challenges, but it feels like he is purposely trying to manipulate who stays in and who goes out. We all know that Stephanie makes a better show than Janu and he pushed for that outcome. It's really ticking me off.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 5:47 pm
I also don't get all the Ian love going around. I liked him at first, but I just keep feeling an attitude from him in his interviews that I don't like. I guess it's the same smugness that Tom and Katie are showing. I just hate that. I was going strong for Stephanie, until I saw her at this week's tribal. Her crocodile tears reminded me of what irritated me about her on Ulong. Her I deserve to be here attitude is just too much for me. I don't think she is where she is because she has played all that well in strategy. I think she is just strong and lucky as hell. I didn't like Gregg at first, but I'm really starting to jump on the Gregg bandwagon. It is probably a curse on him that I'm doing it though. If Gregg goes, there really isn't anyone else that I like and I won't care at all which one wins, because I'll be unhappy with any of them winning.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 23, 2005 - 11:12 pm
I still like Stephenie. Never did get Ian. Did love Coby's remarks about Ian's hair, though.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 9:58 am
i don't see katie working well at challenges (she sat many of them out) and other tribe members made comments about how lazy she and janu and jenn were, with the men doing everything around camp. the women never helped with the food, got the water, started the fire, etc. that is what is disappointing about wanting to cheer for someone from my area, but not finding anything to cheer about! for example, i was proud of janu for getting that fire started, but she would have been better at it had she ever done it back in her camp! i don't necessarily think anyone should be totally 'out there' and showing too much how self-sufficient and strong they are (this may be steph's downfall, but i hope not!), but a little team-work would be nice. i do have an open mind about katie, and i didn't mean the poster (who may or may not be a cousin or katie herself, or whoever) should be disappointed about being katie's cousin, but that she or he should keep it quiet because of katie's clause/agreement with CBS about things. even friends and relatives have to be careful about what they think or guess about how things turned out vote-wise. certainly everyone in survivor knows who the final 2 are. it would be hard to not do something to show you won at least 100k...something a cousin or friend might pick up on. looking at a new car? house-hunting? anyway, i apologize if it read as if i meant mickie should be embarrassed or disappointed in katie, because at that point in my post, i did mean i would keep quiet because of the legal things. ---------- i am still bothered that tom changed the alliance to include jen and gregg. the only 2 who weren't in it were caryn and janu! and steph was expendable, even though she was in it from day one or two. if gregg and jen are a couple, they will probably need to be 'broken up' and i also think if tom loses even one immunity challenge, he should be gone. i'm not sure the others are serious about ganging up the (majority) girls against guys. it would sure put a new twist on the old alliance thing!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:23 am
Sea, I'm with you. I'd like to see Stephanie win the whole thing. She's great at the challenges and taking care of herself and she's a hard worker.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 10:39 am
Yep, not a good idea on Tom's part, but he's so strong he could survive it.. Steph is strong,but I understand why she didn't stand on that perch forever, which would have alienated Tom, who she thinks/hopes/has been assured has her back, and the second challenge appeared to be impossible for the women to win.. hope they get something more even going. So Tom's inclusion of Gregg and Jen may hurt his allies more than it hurts him. I, too, would love to see SOME new alliance form (women would be the most logical, except that Jen isn't about to turn on Gregg and may fear that he'd drop her like a hot rock if she turned on HIS alliance, AND that I wonder if the lazygirls would somehow rather lose to a strong guy as opposed to Steph.. may want her gone because she makes them look even weaker. They also may think a guy is more likely to bring them along, thinking they will win, and, after all, you never know when the strong guy may lose to the weak girl (oh, yes, we DO know.. Jenna, Amber, Tina) and the, too, second place gets more money. Twinks, I fear we will be quite disappointed, but can always hope.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 3:10 pm
I rewatched the tribal council the other night and Steph's reactions didn't seem as strong as I remembered them being when I first watch. Yes she was upset and started to break down, but she never started blubbering and it wasn't a teeth grinning smile when Janu left. Just a smile. I would have too and I probably would have been frustrated and rolled my eyes over someone wanting to quit when I was working hard to be there and wanted to be there, too.
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