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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:08 pm
I'm not holding out any hope that Steph can pull off the best power switch in the games history. If not next...the week after...I just can't see Steph staying for a few more days (which is weeks to us). I hate it when someone at TC knows they're going and don't want to. I felt bad for Steph before the Janu walk. But, it is Survivor after all...let's all remember how much Lex regrets not doing what needed to be done.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:08 pm
i've been a stephanie fan throughout the game too. and i even believed her tears tonite until i saw the smug grin on her face when janu stepped down. stephanie is a little more calculating than i suspected. not that that is a bad thing in this game.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:09 pm
Coby said that Janu had been sick for a long time. She lit up with a bright smile when Coby came in and I think she was through with being on the island. She thought she was going last week. Why stay around when you know your going tonight or in 3 days. I would DRAG Katie to the end with me because I don't think she will get the jury vote.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:11 pm
Oh and is it me or is Katie the only Survivor Contestant in the shows history to actually gain weight while being stranded with no food and little water?
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:15 pm
Sayin', Nick. Just sayin'.
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:23 pm
Ian was the one who suggested if Janu really felt that way (didn't care if she stayed or left) then she could lay down her torch. I loved that Janu screwed up the plan. I was also happy to see that she finally helped in a challenge. Heck, Caryn didn't do much to help her side win the reward! She and Katie are such a waste of space. When the winners sat down to their meal and started scarfing down the food, I mentioned to my dh I thought it'd be hard to eat all of that without getting sick. I mean, they've been without "real" food for what, 26 days? Medical personnel will tell a person who is dehydrated and/or starved to take it easy at first...your body can't handle the shock/change. Next thing I know, Janu is hurling. And Gregg says it's a shame because there are 4 other people who would have loved to be sitting with them, enjoying the feast and here Janu is spewing it all up. Well, Janu got the last laugh. She messed up the plan, and will spend the rest of the game in relative comfort. I'd love to see Steph rally the girls, but that means Tom or Ian would be next to go since Jen is hooked up with Gregg. It would also mean Katie and/or Caryn are safe...again! (Did I mention what a waste of space they are? lol)
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:26 pm
I think Janu is going to be very happy sitting back with Coby,eating and sleeping well and snarking, while the others self-immolate and/or cannibalize each other. Janu made a good decision for herself tonight.
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:39 pm
I do think Jeff manipulated things some, as he always does try to stir things up and screw up their plans and make 'em think at Tribal. He did seem to go a little further in tonight's show than he usually does. I'm glad Janu stepped down and let Steph stay. Did anyone else think that water challenge looked a little funky? Were the guys just that much better, or was their side a little higher in the water, giving them an advantage?
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:40 pm
it's all smoke and mirrors kar... i thought the same thing too
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:45 pm
I haven’t been a big fan of Janu as she hasn’t added much to the show up until this point. I did like her tonight though. She tried very hard to win that reward challenge. I thought they were pretty mean about her getting sick eating the food. I know that they all wanted to enjoy it but it’s not like she did it on purpose and she had contributed to their being there in the first place. The other woman were pretty nasty about mocking her (of course we don’t get to see everything so we don’t know what Janu did herself). I was impressed that she did so well on her own. Jeff was actually angry when the others were laughing and making jokes when Janu was the first out of the water (you could tell – he had an edge to his voice). I was a bit suspicious of the water challenge as well. I’m not sure that it was fair – it’s pure logic that the guys’ side had to be higher. I wasn’t too happy with the way that Jeff manipulated the TC, but I was glad that Janu was able to get back at the others by leaving on her own terms. It was pretty stupid of them – if they had been even a little civil to her they could have eliminated Stephanie who is a somewhat larger threat.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 8:20 pm
I have to say that I like Gregg's logic that it's not who you like but who will help you the most progress to the end. And I wasn't surprised that Ian pointed out to Janu that if she really wanted to leave that badly, all she had to do was put her torch down. Ian could't give Gregg a valid answer earlier as to why they should keep Steph over Jan but then Janu gave him the break he needed to nudge things back in the direction that the secret four wanted. Of course if the secret four were really smart, they'd get rid of Greg ASAP. I'm betting he's next to go. Two weeks ago I switched to rooting for Steph but tonight I didn't care for her actions. This has been a really different Survivor in that I'm changing who I root for every week. Tonight I was even rooting for Gregg, sigh. Definitely don't care for Katie. And umm, Caryn who? I like Ian - I like everything about him! I am now rooting for Ian. Let's see how long that lasts.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 8:51 pm
Nick, I COMPLETELY agree about how Katie is the only survivor to ever gain weight. She really is sportin' a belly.
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 9:25 pm
Phooey! I missed the tribal council because the station broke in with severe weather warnings that lasted about an hour and a half or more. I won't see the end of Survivor until late tonight. (11:35) But, I already knew the ending because I had the Closed Captioning on was able to read what was going on and I couldn't believe the text was running while the weathermen were showing radar images of the thunderstorms and possible funnels. It was wierd. So if your station interupts programming try using the CC and see if it works. This might not work on all stations. We watch Survivor on a Tulsa station. (I live about 70 miles from there)
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 9:48 pm
i am having a problem with tom running things. and darn if he doesn't keep winning immunity so they can't get rid of him even if they get smart and think to oust him! he reminds me of rob when he was on the allstar survivor. rob started talking early before each vote about who should we vote out, this person or that person...which always deflected everyone from thinking about ousting HIM! tom had an alliance (total, complete, 'to the end') with katie, ian and steph. now HE decides to let gregg and jenn in...and HE decides steph may be expendable at this point. so much for his strict loyalties and ties! i would get rid of tom the first chance i had. katie is totally worthless. i am embarrassed that she is from this area. that tummy reminds me of a 2-year-old with a milk belly. she doesn't even try and hold it in.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 10:55 pm
I didn't think much of Tom tonight. He took in Gregg and Jenn and was willing to dump Steph. Guess he doesn't realise that couples are a threat? He also signalled to everyone that he would sell out anyone who was a threat. Hmm... Should have kept his mouth shut. Seems like Ian was uncomfortable with voting out Steph. Jeff jumped right on the bandwagon and what choice did Janu really have? She made the mistake of saying that she didn't care, wanted to quit, so she was cornered. LOL--in the end, she came off really well. Left with dignity. Gregg and Jenn, if they're smart, see the handwriting on the wall--they're expendable. If Tom doesn't win the next immunity, and the rest aren't totally brain dead, he should be the next to go.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:01 pm
Maybe Janu tried quitting and they asked her to wait until tribal council so that they would at least have some footage to show. I don;t think Jeff was trying to talk her into anything, I think it was already decided and he was just leading the conversation around to it.
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Missfebruary
Member
04-04-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 4:26 am
I agree with Kappy about Ian using Janu's words to keep from voting out Stef. I don't think he or Tom wanted to vote out Stef. I adore Tom. Not sure if that is a popular opinion or not. I also adore Ian. I think that they were going to go along with Greg (and Jen) because they had made an alliance with them and Katie that Stef was not a part of and even though Tom assured Stef when she merged that he, Ian and Katie were still loyal to their alliance, he and Ian still need to play for themselves. (sorry for the run-on) They tried to get Greg to vote Janu, but he was adamant about Stef going. Had Tom, Ian, Katie and Stef voted Janu and Janu, Greg, Karen, and Jen voted Stef, there would have been a tie and Stef might still have gone. In addition, Tom and Ian would have shown their hand earlier than they wanted. Then Greg and Jen would have had the opportunity and motivation to allign with Karen and tempt Katie and Stef to join them to go after Tom and Ian. A few episodes ago, I would have been happy if Tom, Ian, Stef or Bobby Jon had won. Now, I am just rooting for Tom and Ian. Stef has disappointed me the last few episodes. Yes, she is still a strong competitor and she puts her heart into every competition, but I'm not impressed with her interpersonal skills. I didn't like the fact that she repeated everything Kobe told her to the girls. I didn't like all of the eye rolling and other gestures at this TC. And, like Gidget said earlier, I too noticed the smug grin on Stef's face when Janu walked. Didn't like it, no siree. And I didn't like her in the previews where it appeared that she was gearing up the girls to go after Tom. I have wondered why, since the numbers are there, that there hasn't been a "girl power" alliance with Greg as a tag along. I just don't like Stef gunning for Tom when he tried to stay true to their alliance. I think Tom is honorable and I believe that if he had his choice in the final two, he would go up against a deserving, strong opponent rather than the one who would have the least favor with the jury. I like that. I know that people get to the finals by whatever means possible and during past seasons I've enjoyed watching the story unfold. The mental game is just as much a part of this as the physical. This time, though, I would really like to see a strong, honest person win. Someone who deserves it. You know, like Tom or Ian! Anyway, just my two cents. Finally posting after years of lurking (and only an hour and a half of sleep). Love this board!
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:36 am
Welcome Missfebruary, Don't lurk we all see something that others may have missed. Janu is on the ES at 8:07 am. Questioned by Julie then a break on another topic,commercial, the break at the 1/2 hour and back to take questions at 8:35
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Lycanthrope
Member
09-19-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:43 am
Steph was upset about being targeted. The fact that she survived the plot to oust her made her quite happy, thus the grin that people seem to not like. I'm still rooting for her, but I'm also now rooting for Ian, as he seemed to really hate the thought of voting her out. I don't think Steph will win, but I'm glad she's still playing...
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:12 am
I can understand Stephanie getting emotional at the tribal council and wanting to fight for her existance but when it became apparent that Janu was going to lay down her torch, she should have just kept quiet. Her rolling her eyes got on my last nerve and I actually look forward in anticipation to her getting kicked out. As for Janu, she was her own worst enemy but when it came down to it she could have screwed her team during that reward challenge but she busted her butt on that competition and in one of the rounds at least she got back to the beach first. She did not hold back at all. I think also the way she was treated by the other women was despicable and it reminded me very much of that high school girl mentality, where girls get a thrill over ganging up on another. I would like to see all of them go down, with Tom and Ian as final two. It would serve them right. I hope Janu and Cobe enjoy the remaining tribal councils, I have to admit I would enjoy being in their spot, watching all of them squirm.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:20 am
I agree that Jeff totally pushed Janu into quitting starting at the immunity challenge. I think he'd like to see Stephanie go farther - plus if Steph went this week, we all would know Janu was going next week. BUt I'm ok with it and I'd like to Steph go farther then Greg or Katie or Jen. I was wondering the same thing about the guys not even being under water when the girls were already out - I think they definitely had the advantage Still like Tom and Ian as my favorites, but wouldn't mind seeing Steph hang in there. I have to say though if Katie goes to the end and then wins this thing - I think this will by my last Survivor. As a type A female I am sicking of the girls who just sit there and ride the coattails of the stronger people and then win because they didn't make waves - well guess what they didn't do anything. Sorry my 2 cents
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:30 am
this is reminding me of the year jenna won and heidi went to the end with her. the least useful were also the least threatening. i would hate to see two more slacker chicks make it to the end. but the strong are going to cannibalize each other and it just might happen.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:36 am
Did anyone else feel a little twinge of glee that Stephanie's team did not win the reward challenge. I was getting a little tired of her on the old team that she was the only one capable of winning a competition and it wasnt fair that she was with such poor competitors. Well the first team she is on, she didnt win the challenge. So did she bring the bad luck with her? I think the reason the men had an advantage is that they probably were able to touch the sand at the beginning of that competition and the women were treading water. They had to expend more engergy staying afloat
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:38 am
She may have brought the bad luck with her, but she led that team the whole way. She was always at the front encouraging them on. I thought about that myself but I'm not sure about the treading water. I don't think Stephanie got tired - she simply ran out of space.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 7:40 am
Janu took Tom and Ian off the hook about Steph being in an alliance with them without realizing it. Tom couldn't show his hand to Greg about keeping Steph. Ian and Tom were squirming in their seats at TC.
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