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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:18 am
I already see a pretty people clique forming on Ulong headed by Ms. Stephenie, and I hope Koror continues to kick their tails ..
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Creampuff
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:20 am
Yes, Anderson Cooper! Since I knew Tom reminded me of someone and I have always enjoyed AC I can't believe I didn't realize that. Thanks for the observation, Tashakinz.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:47 am
quote:My pet peeve at this point is Jeff's canned remarks with the same inflections; same tone. I would have hoped that would have been modified by this season. "Wanna know what you're playing for? Survivors ready! I'll go tally the votes", etc., etc. Surely changing many of those statements/questions could provide a bit more interest, ya' think?
And he sounded totally bored imo at the tribal council when Ulong arrived.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:14 am
I just got through watching the show and what I just can't understand is - when the boat turned over WHY, OH, WHY didn't they persist in finding the fire supplies right then and there? The container had to have gone straight down under the boat! It was too heavy to drift too far away. They were right there over the spot where it had to be, so why would they leave it without looking a little damn harder for it?!? I nearly fell off the couch laughing when Williard said he'd like to whack Wanda with an oar, because right before that, I was thinking that if I was one of the people sitting next to Wanda when she was standing there singing, there would definitely be a little 'accident' that would send Wanda overboard. I think the people in this Survivor are going to be really interesting. I'm glad that Wanda and Jolanda got the heave-ho. I think that being the first guy to jump off the boat just came back to bite Jonathon in the butt. I believe that Coby realized that Wanda was going to be the last woman and that Angie wasn't really in danger, so he chose not to make it obvious that he and Angie were the odd ones sticking together. It would just call attention and put a sign on them as being the odd ones that stick together. Neither one of them needed that. I think all the hoopla about this being the end of Survivor as we know it was just crapola hype, but I'm still excited about the season after seeing this first episode.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:18 am
Or maybe Jonathan wasn't picked because there were just him and the old guy left and you know you have to have an "old" guy around knowing he'll never win the big prize and so less competition for everyone. The quick elimination of 2 contestants served no purpose but to humiliate them on national tv. That's the "nasty" side of the producer...
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Lorie
Member
08-29-2003
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:30 am
I agree with you Spunky about there really being no point in bringing along 2 extra contestants, only to send them home. What was the purpose in that? What a humiliation it must have been.All excited to be picked for Survivor, taking the trip over, fighting for the first immunity, and then being sent packing. Made no sense to me other than to embarass those poor 2.Hope they don't do that again.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 10:42 am
I think that while it certainly would be demoralizing to be vote off like that (well, just not picked) they did succeed in a few things. They mixed up how the game works--a twist as it were. MB has always said his main goal is to keep everyone off balance--to not let them get comfortable. He succeeded in that by completely changing how someone is removed from the game. The up side is that they will get a 40 day vacation of a life time paid for in full--that will be worth a lot of money--and I'm betting they will get ot do things not many people will be able to do. That area is rich in history. MB also shakes things in doing this by sending the message that the old ways of playing the game may not work--that creativity and making immediate ajustments are premium qulaities--and that typically makes for a better game--and a better show. The teams are interesting--one is just about all younger--and over all probably stronger. The other has what I consider a good mix of youth/strength and older/thinkers/organizers. As Jeff said, the younger group did nothing but make excuses. It was interesting that in a challenge of basically all physical (the obstacle course), the one point where logic and reasoning came into play, that ended up being the deciding factor in the outcome of the challenge. Oh, and the younger group can't paddle a straight line.
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Scout
Member
01-20-2005
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:11 am
I agree with Tabbyking. I was very disappointed in the beginning. Maybe if they hadn't kept promoting this season as two people being "lost" (I think they just wanted us to associate with the other "Lost"). The tv guide said, "the unusual start claims two early casualties who get lost and don't make it to the first challenge". Not getting picked for a team, which felt really uncomfortable to watch, is not exactly being lost. I really hoped it was going to an actual challenge where maybe they were dropped off at equal distants from the competition and that's where two people didn't make it. I felt sorry for the two people who had to go home. I hope they didn't give up jobs in order to be there.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:36 am
Yeah, we were sure deceived with that "lost" promo. I could see how Wanda could get on their nerves. I was glad to see Jolanda go too. Chowing down a grasshopper and screaming was just too much. Was that blur covering her butt because she was wearing a thong? I also was surprised that Coby did not pick Angie. Felt bad for Williard. They didn't jump to pick him because he was older. I like Tom, but that decision to go to the other island was a bad move. This seems like an interesting group, but time will tell.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:37 am
I liked the show. It wasn't the greatest beginning, but it was ok and entertaining. The schoolyard picking doesn't bother me so much. It wasn't good entertainment really, but it threw off the survivors a lot. I really like how they were left with no info for awhile. I don't like that the previews were so misleading, they did have help and no one was lost. I have to be honest and say that I'm really happy not to have to watch Wanda singing. It annoyed me right away. I really liked her bio and admire her. I wanted to see her compete for awhile...my thought before the show...until the singing. She seems like a really nice and very decent person. But the singing was too much!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:52 am
Lots of hype from Probst et al before the season started. Even though I'm pretty pessimistic about it all, it did seem to be a better start than Vanuatu. I actually liked the tribe "pick-em" method - even though when I read that's what they'd do, I didn't think I'd like it. It was good because the chair method allowed each person to pick. Each person is in some way indebted to someone else - or p.o.'d at someone else - as in Angie's case. However, now that the tribes are formed - I don't really see anything as "new". Once again the weak are picking off the strong. I totally agree that Jolanda had a grating personality - but she's a heptathalete champion. No consideration was even given to her physical abilities. She's annoying - so she must go. Not that I don't like Angie - because I do. Everyone loves to root for the underdog and right now she is it. Re the outrigger tipping over. The suspicious portion of me couldn't help but wonder if production planned that. Perhaps the extremely heavy box made the people side of the canoe too heavy? But I guess there is too much conspiracy in that thought. LOL Diving deep is extremely difficult for most people. I swam nearly every day of all my summers growing up. I used to do the two mile swim lake every summer at camp. That was easy - but even with all that water ability I had a very tough time diving to the bottom of the 12 foot pool. It's tough to know just how deep that box is. When the boat tipped you could see both dark and light blue waters. If it went in the light blue, it might be shallow - but the dark blue areas might be too deep to retrieve it - especially since they do not have diving masks to help locate.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:57 am
I did wonder why the producers bothered to re-hash the street clothes this season. I thought that was a total bust during Pearl Islands. I just worry about their sunburns and the editors just need to work harder with the blur machine. Give them all swim suits, give them all decent shoes (they did do this), give them all a shirt that will protect their shoulders from the sun.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 11:58 am
Dang it, it's on at the same time as "Joey", but I'm hooked. At first, I was glad the singing lady went home but I have to agree with Muse, that it would have been fun to see her drive a few people crazy first. Haven't picked a fav yet, but I like the guy with the southern accent.
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Scout
Member
01-20-2005
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 12:23 pm
Gina, I was surprised by the clothes thing again, too. I can't believe anyone would still wear high heels after the Pearl Islands thing. I'd be wearing about three layers, sweatshirt and raincoat if it were me!
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 1:51 pm
On the internet show Jolanda said she wore a $600 suit and $200 shoes.They were told to dress their finest for a photo shoot! But they should have figured that one out, since they pulled that one before.
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Dar422
Member
08-19-2004
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:21 pm
I think Willard was chosen because it was Caryn who had to chose between Willard and Jonathan. Caryn was the woman in the 3 person alliance with Coby. She knew Coby didn't want Jonathan to stay thus Willard was chosen.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:23 pm
The show is repeating tomorrow night after Wickedly Perfect.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:37 pm
I tuned in last night without any great expectations but, whoa, actually ended up enjoying most of the show. How did that happen, lol? I had hoped for a more radical change in the game set-up and almost thought we were getting that...but then, no, it was back to two tribes on separate beaches. That was kinda disappointing. Still, at least there were a few players that seemed interesting and strong. (Not that first impressions are all that reliable on this show.) Of the women, I liked Janu the best; the men, it would probably have to be Ian. 'Course at this early point in the game, my standards are pretty easy...Janu did a great job helping with the shelter and Ian showed that he's athletic and, while young, thoughtful enough to know that age & experience are valuable in this game. So that gave them each gold stars in my book and as they didn't do anything to irritate me, I guess that makes them my favorites. For today, lol. I probably would have opted to stay on the old beach because at least there was the beginnings of a shelter there. I suppose the water hole was closed for the season though. I did think it was pretty lousy deal for the two who weren't picked though. Free vacation or not, it couldn't have been fun to have been eliminated when the game was only minutes old. I liked both Angie and Jolanda so that was a tough choice for me. I admire the physically strong players and as Jo's personality didn't bother me, I think she could have been an asset to her group. I don't know how much she should be held responsible for them losing the IC/RC either. Sure, it was foolish to allow her team to fall so far behind but the others could have insisted they move on (yeah, I know they "tried to" - but obviously they didn't try hard enough). And they did have a chance to catch up in the water but, once again, they couldn't get it together. As for Angie, she admits she's not that strong but I didn't see where that cost her tribe this challenge. (Unlike *shudder* Chris from last season, who if I had had my way wouldn't have gotten to even dream about winning the million 'cause I'd have sent him packing after that first immunity loss.) Plus in her interview scenes, she just seemed like a cool person. Btw, I do think that IC/RC was incredible. Great start to the season. Please no animal killing or gross-out food challenges! And it was haunting how that beautiful water was littered with those sad and sobering war wrecks.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 3:30 pm
I felt sorry for Wanda after seeing her on the Early Show today. She said she trained for 3 months running and swimming so she could do well. But, what if the producers do what they did once before and bring those two back to reenter the game. That would make up for the unnecessary "two don't get picked" idea.
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Awareinva
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 3:49 pm
Jeff Probst said in an interview not long ago that the season where they brought the people back (Lil et al.) was the worst thing ever in his opinion. He said something to the effect that it wasn't fair because when your fire was out, you were out .... that's the whole analogy. He really really didn't like it, and I doubt that he would have said that if it had happened again this season. At least I hope so, I hated that season! This one has possiblities but man, I bet they are going to regret voting out two strong people this early! And I agree about the fire box.... I'd have been out there until dark trying to find that puppy! LOL
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 4:05 pm
I am surprised more aren't talking about how hot Ibrehem is!!! Yumm-me!
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Bbfanatic
Member
08-14-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 5:36 pm
I didnt find him even luke warm.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:28 pm
I don't feel sorry for Wanda.. if she trained and all she also should have looked at past history and even if she wanted to sing.. SAVE it until she had established some alliances. Learn from other off the wall people who were immediately cast aside! I think there might have been the "Lil Factor".. not wanting to let her get a foothold? And I guess Jolanda is strong, but wasn't it her who was having a horrible time and having to be hoisted over one of those obstacles, right when they needed to catch up? I watched it twice and can't see anyone else it could have been. So she talked a strong game and she swam and snatched that immunity but she wasn't strong in people skills, she was one of the ones who helped make the wrong decision in the immunity challenge and not the strongest on the obstacles. Bye Bye! I agree about Miss Stephenie.. youth alliance and I'd want her gone soon. I think it was Willard who first suggested going to the other island.. what a mistake! They had no idea what they'd find and then they loose their fire making tools and Azriel, you are so right! They should have spend considerable time and effort to get that box back immediately!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 7:31 pm
I think it was more about not being able to bring the fire box up from the bottom, since all the boxes in the challenge had been weighted to make it more difficult. They just weren't able to pull it up from the bottom. Sooooo sad!!! I think in the previews from next week, they may take another stab at the fire box. Seems like they'd have to open it underwater and salvage what they could. I really felt bad for them! Poor Wanda! She was annoying! Wonder if she realized how annoying she was when she saw herself on TV? I don't think anybody regretted not picking her when she was singing her way off in the boat. Too much!!! ETA: First rule of Survivor: Stay under the radar as long as possible. All three (Jonathan, Wanda and Jolanda) violated that rule, which is why they left so early.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:29 pm
At first I hated the way they had to chose their teammates...it truly was a popularity contest. But then the concept of HOW it was done struck me as genius. Each person had a turn to chose a teammate and this kind of shows who is aligned with whom. Coby made a very smart move NOT choosing tattoo lady(sorry forget name) That greyish haired older man is gorgeous!! Oh, and the southern guy has beautiful eyes and a magnificent NOSE !! rotfl. I like guys with character!! Dont care for the prettyboys
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