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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:24 am
I agree with Jolanda. Ms. Stephenie orchestrated her exit because she was jealous. Granted Jo shouldn't have been so overbearing right away, but if you looked at Ms. Stephenie's face .... well, let's just say that I have picked the one I'm going to be rooting against, lol ...
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Lycanthrope
Member
09-19-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:29 am
Stephanie was jealous? Sorry, I didn't get that vibe. Stephanie was mad because Jo took leadership of the tribe and made a very bad decision. They need a real leader, not just someone who is louder than everyone else, and maybe now a real leader will emerge... Obviously, 4 other tribe members agreed with Stephanie...
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:36 am
I struggled with the "school yard" twist too, but I rationalize it with, well they did make it further than 100s of others who applied??? And as far as jumping off the boat early... I was wondering the same thing, I know I would've jumped, but more likely due to sitting in the hot sun going up and down with the waves, up and down... aaack!!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:01 am
Darn I forgot to listen to the Early Show this morning. I didn't notice any jealousy either. The school yard twist was the only thing I liked I believe. Added an interesting mental dynamic and if not for that then the show would've been completely boring as opposed to halfway boring.
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Schoolmarm
Member
02-18-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:08 am
Ah, I also LOVED the canoe dumping out and the "winning" team losing their fire supplies (and probably the immunity idol).
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 9:40 am
I also thought Jolanda was disingenuine on the Early Show when she said they had a plan to take everything in the challenge and she was just sticking to the plan. Seemed to me that several of them were more than willing to abandon the plan, and she was just too stubborn to let go and see what was going on. It never pays to be bossy early in this show.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 12:24 pm
Is there a possibility that the producers "knew" that having something that heavy on the canoe would tip the boat over? just wondering.... Jo was annoying me so I am glad she left. I thought it was SO FUNNY when they showed that they were swimming so much slower then the boat.It was hillarious!
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Ltrain
Member
02-18-2005
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 2:11 pm
I have seen a rumor floating about that we probably will see these 3 again trying to get back in the game
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Way2prissy
Member
07-21-2002
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 3:24 pm
They said the boat tipped over because of a wave, right? I never saw a wave. That water looked pretty calm to me!
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Hollytree
Member
02-18-2005
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 3:26 pm
I agree with Jeff's first impression of Wanda. I could not deal with her for 39 days and Jeff is also spot on about her predecessor LiL. How annoying was she? If these contestents have watched any of the other shows they should know by now you have to get the self appointed leaders off first no matter how good they are in team competitions. It always comes back to bite them in the can later if they don't.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, February 18, 2005 - 8:18 pm
I hope that is 'just a rumor' cause I dont want to know spoilers. This show sure started out differently than other seasons. Everyone kinda knows each other and some alliances could be formed already. I think of Coby and tattoo girl who are on separate teams...that COULD be good later on if they merge. I find it a strange doublestandard that the GUY who jumped from the boat was penalized/ostacized yet the girl wasnt. Oh, and the singing lady, that would have driven me NUTS!~ LOL She seemed nice though, but not strong or stable LOL. Once again though, the bossiest person is voted off. You'd think that the contestants would understand that you CANT stand out and try and take control! It is kind of disappointing that the strongest lady of colour is gone. I liked the scenery GORGEOUS!! Good choice for location.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 10:26 am
Was it Willard who decided for the group that they should go to a new and strange unknown beach for their camp? This game is so weird because the contestants probably have to second guess themselves, such as, do they want to speak up or not to tell Willard that isn't a good idea, they should have stayed where it was known that they had coconuts and a partial shelter built. Looks like from the previews that there are rats there. Didn't they have to push Willard along a bit in the competition? Looks like he is not as strong physically as his bio makes him look. I liked Jo ok. I didn't think she was as bossy as just a strong personality and somewhat loud. But, I think that if you are of that personality type, you'll get much farther in the game if you tone it WAY down. The only way to succeed in this game at first seems to be way under the radar, and actually that seems to be how most have won, either under the radar or helpless/sick after awhile (JennaM). Vecepia, Sandra, Brian, and Ethan were way under and even Hatch was to the others, in his confessionals he sure wasn't, he was manipulative as all get out, but to the others he really stayed way under as far as his actions. His nudity...well...I think that only worked because it was the first season! Now, he'd be the first to go. Anyway, it really makes me wonder if some contestants ever saw the show!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 11:33 am
I think they thought it was like Lets Make a Deal and the island behind curtain 3 would be better
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 12:00 pm
I too was wondering why the guy who jumped out of the boat was penalized and not the woman! I can't remember who she was, but I'll bet she is already in with the group who voted off Jolanda. I saw Ashlee telling everyone that they had to vote Jo out or be on her hate list. I wasn't paying attention at the end when they showed who voted for who, but it wasn't unanimous.There is another group who wanted Angie out--I think they were off by one vote.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 1:08 pm
I also did not see the "wave" that tipped the canoe over. I imagine that the immunity idol was light and would have floated. I think it would be hard to remember exactly where the boat was when the chest sank. They probably should have looked for it harder right then and there.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 1:43 pm
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, but I haven't looked very hard either...did Coby's worth diminish in anybody elses eyes when he had the chance to pick Angie on his team...but didn't? All the talk about being the odd man/woman out and he blew his opportunity to have at least one other person in his schemings...tsk, tsk. Wanda would probably still be in had she kept her song to herself...you know the others had to be thinking, "39 days of this....39 loooong days of this..."
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 4:01 pm
I think Jonathon's early demise was orchestrated by Coby - we saw quite a lot of video of Coby talking with others about voting John off (before they had split into two tribes - he was probably thinking they were all one tribe). It was Stephenie who was the other early jumper. 'squeek'
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Dar422
Member
08-19-2004
| Saturday, February 19, 2005 - 9:20 pm
Also Caryn was the person who had to chose to keep Willard or Jonathan. I thought Tom and Caryn had made an alliance with Coby. She knew how much Coby disliked Jonathan so that is probably why she chose Willard.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 9:09 am
i'm just so glad that we don't have to listen to wanda sing every week and we don't have to listen to jolanda bark orders and brag every week.. for once.. good boots off.. but i don't understand what coby had against jonathan?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 3:32 pm
I too was wondering why the guy who jumped out of the boat was penalized and not the woman! I discussed this with my Mom. We came to the conclusion that the girl immediately called out "OH I am so stupid!! Please, can I come back in the boat?? " and then was laughing. Well, this would affect the others in the boat as she made a poor decision. The guy did NOT say a word and just seemed to be trying to keep his pride intact by keeping his mouth shut. He should have laughed it off as well. No doubt he was sulking and steaming by the time he made it to shore. No one likes a pouter...therefore He was GONE!! His behaviour would have been the last straw. JUST A THEORY based on what we saw in editing!! LOL
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Schoolmarm
Member
02-18-2001
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 3:42 pm
It also sounded like Jonathan didn't talk to most of the other survivors....that might have been a factor. He certainly didn't talk much on the Early Show for his interview.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 4:35 pm
We have to remember they had a whole day together, enough time for Jonathan to make ammends, joke it off, or seal his fate. The one girl said she hated to vote him off cuz he had worked so hard that day. He was prolly working and not socializing like the rest were.
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Nick
Member
07-31-2004
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 5:32 pm
just wish jonathan had gotten some decent air time since he was booted.. i don't think we even heard him talk!
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Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Sunday, February 20, 2005 - 11:15 pm
I didn't see the wave that knocked over the canoe either! Hopefully next week they will show that part better and more up close. And when they lost their trunk they really should have looked for it longer. Me personally I would have just dove down where the crew was filming it on the bottom LOL
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, February 21, 2005 - 4:42 am
I thought the reason Jon got booted was because of Coby. Did I imagine it, or wasn't Coby campaigning to get Jon kicked off first? I remember thinking at the time I was watching it, that the only reason I could think of why Coby wanted Jon gone, was that Coby was attracted to Jon and most likely didn't want the distraction. But I have mixed emotions about Coby now, so my view may be a tad distorted. At first I liked Coby and thought he would be someone I would enjoy watching, but then he turned on Angie, who I also like, for no apparent reason. I'm trying to keep an open mind about Coby and wait to see how this all plays out. BTW, I'm liking most all the contestants right off the bat, so this may prove to be a "most excellent" season for me....
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