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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tom offered her SIXTH.. not directly, but he was already allied with Ian and Katie, oh and sort of with Stephenie, but also with Gregg and Jen. In other words Caryn was dead last in his consideration, only he doesn't consider her to be competition. But now he knows that she will inexplicably blab any plans that might be made, so she's probably next on the radar screen.

Pathetic.

Also pathetic that they all fear Stephenie so. Sure, she's strong. But Koror controls the jury, so if Koror is so tight, wouldn't it be best to go to the end with Stephenie? Hmmm?

Sorry, but I don't care who wins. They could just cancel the season at this point; these people are just aimlessly notplaying, they don't seem to be suffering all that many hardships, the competitions are dull as dishwater this year.

At least the three on the jury are interesting and attractive (ok Janu's not all that interesting but at least she didn't just follow their script).

Coby looked adorable last night.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Janu looked great!! I agree, Sea, I don't care who wins now.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dang!! I missed the show last night. I'm sorry to see Steph leave!



Sheilaree
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07-19-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They would have been smart to get rid of Tom because he is going to win all the time, then get rid of Stephanie.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm starting the "can't stand Katie" section here...because I just can't stand her (on the show of course - don't know the girl in person)! She's the type of player that I really don't like - lazes around all season making what she is sure are hilarious comments to the camera, sucking up to the strong players and then stabbing them in the back. I realize that is part of the Survivor experience but it's my leave favorite part!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the Early show Steph was asked why she persued the girl alliance and she said in the other alliance Gregg and ?I forget wouldn't even look at her, so she knew that wasn't solid.. so she gave it a try. She says now, after last night, she sees it was Caryn who talked.

Steph seems to be quite the athlete..lacrosse.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It fits, doesn't it, that the women would not take this one and probably only opportunity to get rid of Tom. They would have had to show strength and leadership to get together to do that; why should they be any different than they have always been. Weak and dependent upon the men. Aaaarrrggghh.

Steph was the only one willing to take risks and participate to the fullest with meeting the challenges head on and being competitive and strong. I wish that she had been able to convince the other women to join her but, again I ask, why should they act any differently than they have all along. I guess their legacy is CONSISTENCY!


Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the other hand, why should the women be willing to let Stephanie win? She's proven herself stronger than any of them. I know if I was willing to let the strongest player win, I would want it to be someone from my team, like Tom or Ian, who had at least provided me with food!

Sasman
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07-08-2003

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I find it interesting to note that the survivors are, as usual, all noticeably losing body mass..... except for Jenn.

I doubt that she could honestly say what Teri Hatcher famously declared on 'Seinfeld' - "They're real and they are spectacular."


Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Katie...Katie has even gained weight.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jennifer looks more and more like Cameron Diaz. I tell you after 20 something days in those conditions I would look more like Phyllis Diller without the makeup.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROTF!!! me too!!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If the Koror tribe is so united, why not keep Stephenie until the end.. the jury would be 100% Koror.. hmmm.. perhaps they worry that their own tribemates would prefer to have Steph win?

And what is different.. keep Steph.. keep Tom or Ian?

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<Tom offered her SIXTH.. not directly,> from seamonkey's post way above.

i am wondering why these people "LET" tom offer them a position LOL. they are handing this game to him. he is calling all the shots and they are following like sheep. i am disappointed in how wimpy caryn was to run to him and tattle. correct me if i'm wrong, GAL, but aren't GAL's assertive, take-charge gals?! i had thought she would be smarter than that.
the gals should have not even told caryn and taken their chances with 3 of them voting for the same guy...or they could even have voted caryn out!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
p.s. tom did also change the original alliance without asking the others, it appears. gregg and jenn were just added an episode or two back and the others went back to the first day. he is sneaky-smart but i find the others annoying to let themselves be herded. so i guess tom deserves to win....sigh. as long as it's not katie, i guess i'd be okay with any of them. a lot of my faves are gone already.

i, too, thought coby looked like a lovable, huggable pound puppy last night! what a cutie-patootie.




Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jennifer looks either like Cameron Diaz or Marcia Brady, I can't decide. Wanda looks like Alice, the Brady's housekeeper.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jennifer reminds me of Elizabeth Smart, or a cross between Smart and Diaz.

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jenn is the first survivor I've ever seen that got prettier the longer she was out there.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Amber did too

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought Sandra did as well..

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
yeah she looked better on the island than she did at the reunion

Danzdol
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04-21-2001

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
a lot of times, I don't think they all look as good in the final tv show as they did on Survivor!!!!!! usually the guys look hotter nice and scruffy!!!!!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tabby, I'm most disappointed in the ceaseless flapping of her yap. Caryn might not want to appear aggressive or assertive for strategic reasons, but the knowing when to keep your mouth shut thing is a pet peeve of mine (and it's required of a lawyer). I think she's trying to take herself out of the line of fire by yammering about every else's machinations, but if I had a dicey ally who clearly couldn't keep her mouth shut about anything I'd volunteer them to go. Close your cake hole for once, Caryn. Surprise me. I promise to register shock and awe.

PS Maris I'd look like a refugee from a goat farm round-a-bouts day 20.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I looked at it totally differently. I thought Caryn was trying to keep true to the Tom alliance, Tom told her he would look out for her so she was doing the same for him. The person taht went down in my estimation was Tom. He went running to Ian with her information who blabbed it to the other women.

Tom should have appreciated her candor and just kept the info to himself. Me, I would be sucking in all the information and I wouldnt reveal to anyone what others were plotting.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw it the same way Maris. For the first time I actually respected the way Caryn was playing the game - and, then Tom blew it for her because he wasn't able to accept her at her word.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would be the black hole of information around those parts, Maris. I think you made my point though, about Caryn. Once you open your mouth the information is out there and you have no control over what happens to it. Tom actually was smart going to Ian with it because he knew darn well Ian would blab to the women. And now the women are cranked at Caryn instead of gunning for Tom. Caryn could just have stayed quiet and voted her alliance, no harm no foul. She could also have just told Tom in general terms that he was being discussed without naming names (although with so few people left the choices would be fairly obvious). Instead, she put a big ol' target on her own back.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's such a tough game to play. Even with Friday morning quarterbacking, we can't agree on the right approach. I can't imagine what it would be like there, being hungry, tired and paranoid about who to trust and what to say.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Sunday, May 01, 2005 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's odd that Caryn would go to Tom because she was talking smack about him just a few weeks ago.

I don't think she has been in any alliance but is one of those not in the in group and has taken the bone Tom has thrown towards her. She doesn't seem to be with Gregg either and a fence pole sitter just doesn't make it in this show.

Caryn is the only lawyer left in the game and can't keep her mouth shut. Tom got rid of Willard because he was too much of a thinker but not knowing that he was a lawyer.

I would be like Goddessatlaw, listen and say a lot of uha's, geeze's and oh's.

You need an alliance partner and she never found one.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Monday, May 02, 2005 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I couldn't get the Link to work so I copied and pasted this article. Me and Jenna Morasca agree on something. Who'da thunk that?

Entertainment Weekly

MONDAY, May 2, 2005

So Long, Ulong

On ''Survivor,'' Stephenie -- a strong player despite her weak tribe -- finally meets her fate; meanwhile, Caryn may have sealed hers by Dalton Ross

TORCH SONG We'll miss ya, Steph

Whoa... What the hell is going on here? This is the weirdest Survivor episode ever! What's with that podium? And all those reporters in suits and ties? Is Mark Burnett gonna come out and make some sort of statement defending Jeff Probst against allegations that he forced Janu to quit last week? Wait... Who's that? It's the President! What's he doing here? Shouldn't he be off watching a baseball game or something? Ohhhh, I get it. He's addressing the nation about important issues like Social Security and asbestos reform. (What is asbestos reform, anyway?)

I guess that means I'll return in an hour when the really important matters begin.... Okay, I'm back. And seeing how that creepy night vision is consuming my TV screen, so is Survivor. Was it worth the wait? Yes, and no. Yes, because we had a strategy-filled episode with players seemingly realigning every 30 seconds. And no, for a few reasons. First off, we had to endure another one of those ''Let's give the contestants letters from home so we can watch them cry on camera!'' segments. Been there, slept through that. Let's just hope they don't double-dip and also do one of those ''Here are your relatives to compete in a reward challenge!'' spots too. I can't take that — unless phony dead grandmothers are involved, of course.

Another bad thing about this episode was the elimination of one of this season's fiercest competitors, Stephenie. In fact, I've been trying to think if there's ever been a better player on a bad tribe. Andrew Savage from Pearl Islands comes to mind, but that's about it. (If you can think of any, call in on Survivor: Live Friday at 2 p.m. Eastern and let me know. I'm sure I'm spacing on a few.)

Even though Ulong lost every single Immunity challenge, more often than not, Steph (or ''Jersey,'' which is apparently what Probst calls her whether she likes it or not) either held her own or dominated her portion of the competition. And she also showed some strategy savvy along the way, although her proposed women-versus-men alliance was simply a case of too little, too late. (It also may have been a case of too much Caryn using too much of her mouth.)

What to make of Caryn's double dipping? Well, it would have been smart for her to align with the three other women, especially when the other person (Tom) is only promising to let you join his ''strong five'' to make it a ''strong six.'' Gee, where do you think that puts you, Caryn? Umm, maybe sixth?!? (Dude, Tom, I know you're trying not to piss off possible future jury members by lying to their faces, but you can sell yourself a little better than that.) As for catty Katie, she's starting to become pretty damn annoying. True, it was funny when she mentioned that ''We can't get a female alliance because Caryn sucks,'' but her gossipy playground tone is really wearing thin. (Speaking of which, Jenna Morasca is convinced Katie is the first Survivor contestant ever to actually gain weight playing the game. Just wanted to throw that out there. Feel free to discuss among yourselves.)

What else did we learn this episode? Well, we learned that the folks on Koror weren't lying when they said how nasty Ian's hygiene is, with Probst calling out, ''Wow, you smell, Ian. You reek!'' We learned that Tom doesn't want to be penalized for being a strong player. (Sure, Tom, strong players are never, ever voted out because they are simply too good. Don't sweat it, my man.) And we learned that spaghetti dinners in Palau go for approximately 300 bucks a plate — and I thought New York was expensive!

Okay, so it wasn't the most enthralling of episodes (in a season of strong challenges, these two were among the weakest), but as Probst pointed out, now the going should get good. With only six tribe members left (remember, ''The Big Six!''), now people are gonna have to start turning on each other. Who knows — maybe the President will even tune in. Once he handles that whole asbestos situation.

What do you think? Is Tom in trouble? Did Caryn blow it by not siding with the women? And where does Stephenie stack up in the list of great Survivor players from horrible tribes?