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Dee
Member
08-08-2000
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 8:42 pm
I couldn't believe Ian choosing Tom for the reward!!! Tom had JUST told him if one of them won, they had to choose a woman so as to avoid 3 women talking together. Then Ian wins and does the opposite. I would love to know his reasoning. How many times did Jenn go back and forth on her Immunity Challenge? I thought she went only once. It's good Caryn is gone - poor thing needs real FOOD.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 9:32 pm
I could not figure out if I was watching Survivor tonight or an episode of The Young and the Insane. What was that all about?? Why did Ian pick Tom when they discussed how that would not be a good idea? Why did Caryn go nuts all of a sudden, as if the fact that people actually were making plans for the final 3 was suddenly news to her? Didn't Tom & Ian pretty much let her know last week that they had been counting on Katie as a member of their team. And Tom even told her that before the reward challenge. Why the sudden shock? And what the heck is going on with Ian and Katie? The drama was way out of proportion to the actual events! I can't wait for the finale on Sunday!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:10 pm
maybe ian decided it was best to take tom with him because tom seems to be the 'boss' and ian was possibly thinking they would turn on ian while he was away....perhaps tom would mention that ian won a 45,000 dollar car so maybe didn't need to go any farther, etc. katie is quite the drama queen, eh? a place in merced called the branding iron is having a big survivor party on sunday. i'd go for the free food, but i don't think i could take being in 'katie-land' for hours and not let my true feelings about her out. i really do not want this gal to win and just knowing she is final 4 means she has won a lot of money. doesn't caryn get something like 55k for being 5th to last?
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Makays
Member
07-12-2001
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:11 pm
I know it's easy to sit at home on my couch and judge how survivor should go down. I also made this same remark that I'm going to make when Stephanie was still there..... "I swear the lack of food affects your way of thinking. Your brain is starved to the point that you can't think straight." Tonight...once again...the girls could of banded together and voted off one of the guys. The weakest 3 could of voted off one of the stronger 2. But instead, they kept the guys around. I'm scratching my head here. None of these girls have won an immunity challenge. When the tribes merge, I thought the whole idea was to get rid of the stronger players. I will add......I don't think any of the remaining women deserve to win. They are just pawns. Being kept around and used for their vote. In the end, it will be a man this year. The final two guys equally deserve to win. If Stephanie had made it through till the end I would of wanted her to win....but that is not to be. I don't really care who wins. For some strange reason, I have neither liked or disliked the people on this Survivor.
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Penpoint
Member
03-27-2001
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:23 pm
Caryn -- Goodbye! Pure luck brought her so far. What did she do, what did she add to Survivor Palau? Katie -- Talk about "under the radar," other than her clash with Janu, what's she done? A crime if she is in the top two. Jenn -- One thing you can say about her is that at least she's pretty. But that doesn't deserve being in the top two. Ian -- Looks like he just escaped from Auschwitz, yet he's able to win challenges. Amazing! Not one of my favorites, but he deserves to be one of the final two. Tom -- I liked him, then I didn't. Now, to me, he's the only one left that really deserves to win.
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Loyolamom
Member
05-10-2005
| Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 10:28 pm
What a show! If one of these lazy, do nothing women wins I swear to all I hold sacred I will throw myself off a cliff. Well, maybe not at a cliff but my couch for sure!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 3:02 am
I think Ian picked Tom because he could see that Tom was beginning not to trust him and he didnt want Tom talking to the girls. Tom wasn't too happy with him sticking with Katie. Tom's strong arm tactics are beginning to make him look like a bully. He didnt come off very well last night. If one of the lazy neer do well women win (Jenn) I will laugh. Tom and Ian spent way too much time working out with each other whether Caryn or Katie should be trusted when they should have just been getting rid of them. I think it was a bad move getting rid of Caryn, they should have gotten rid of Jenn. Next Katie. Caryn couldnt win a challenge if her life depended on it, she would have been out naturally and then it would have been an Ian and Tom final two. Right now I think it will be an Ian Katie final two.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 4:32 am
I couldn't figure out why Caryn didn't try to work Tom for final 3. Tom must know that if he, Ian and Katie are final 3, he has to win the immunity because Ian and Katie will choose to boot him if they win the last immunity. She could have assured him that if she won it, she would pick him over Ian. Caryn didn't appear to work Katie for final 3 either. She should have driven home to Katie that her only chance to win was to go to final two against Caryn. The women didn't play well last night. They should have booted Ian, and, as Tom said, he'd have had to win the final 2 immunities or he'd be gone. I don't get it. None of the women can win IMHO unless they're up against each other. They don't seem to get that.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:24 am
I had a hard time understanding why Ian was so worked up about Katie being mad and where she got off being mad. Let's see she didn't even try to win the contest she was just afraid that she missed a chance at a car she didn't earn. Maybe Tom will work it with Jen. I don't get her is she holding on to the idea that she can win immunity challenges or are they not showing her working towards alliances??
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:28 am
I didn't have time to read all the posts (although I'm sure they were great ), but Caryn has to be the SLOOOOOOOWEST player ever on Survivor.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:30 am
caryn is an attorney; a very bright woman i would think. but every time tom asked her a question she took the fifth, uh i mean, she gave the 'i don't remember' answer. c'mon she had spoken with katie and jenn only hours before (maybe minutes) and couldn't remember that it was katie who started this or jenn who was told everything by katie about all the early alliances, etc. or about their plan to get rid of whatever male didn't win immunity? she was totally wishy-washy on this entire survivor. i don't remember katie's clash with janu as much as i remember katie's clash with caryn early on. then, nothing after that. she was not good at any challenges and very little help around camp. i think if ulong hadn't lost every immunity challenge since God was a boy, katie would have been long gone. koror only went that one time when both tribes had to go...if they had lost challenges earlier and gone to tribal council, i think katie would have gone right after willard. JMO, of course! right now, i would be okay with either a tom or ian win, even though there are some parts of tom's bossiness i don't care for...hey, the others are letting him call the shots, so that is their fault, not his!! i laughed when the guys were gone because the woman actually had to do some work to open coconuts, etc.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:38 am
Jen is the only player to make final 4 that we barely even know. I know she is pretty and hung out with Greg and that's about it
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Missy2
Member
07-31-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:50 am
I would be upset if a man didn't win. And more upset if I see Jen (is that her name) in the final two - ick!!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:57 am
At this point I would be very happy to see either Tom or Ian win. They have played a tough game, competed hard in all of the challenges, done lots of work around camp, consistently led their tribe to victory in the early going and have done some interesting strategizing. It would be nice to see that type of player win instead of the all too often under the radar types. Given a choice between Katie or Jen, I would prefer Katie by a huge margin. At least Katie has been involved in some strategy and made some decisions that affected the game. And, she was loyal to Ian. As far as I can tell, Jen has done absolutely nothing other than developing a relationship with Greg.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 8:57 am
Well, I guess we know what Caryn did with her money--got herself a pretty good nose job. Just a little off the sides, but not enough to make her look silly. She looked great on The Early Show.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:05 am
I hope Tom, Ian and Katie make it to the final three for the following: 1. Tom and Ian have worked this game from the git go...they definitely both deserve to be in the finals... 2. Jenn has done absolutely NOTHING to have gotten this far...she hasn't played the game nor has she made any enemies... 3. Katie has played the game...and has made many enemies...which will help to ensure whichever guy takes her to the final two will win it all...
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:15 am
Caryn is a lawyer, she didn't need the money for that, and she hasn't gotten her money yet anyway. They don't get it until after the finale airs.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:17 am
It looks like Tom, Ian and Katie are trying so hard to stay true to their alliance. While that is admirable, it is not very smart. I'm also wondering if there's something more than friendship going on with Ian and Katie.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:18 am
Caryn is a civil rights attorney, which means she may not make as much as one would think.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:23 am
Well, she looks great now, anyway. She was looking pretty haggard by the time she was voted off. She has a pretty new hairdo too.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:30 am
I thought Tom was playing very smart last night--suggesting that if one of them won reward, they take one of the women to break up an all girl discussion group while thewy were gone. Sure enough, they talked up a storm about ousting a guy, and katie was pissed off to boot. He also realized that by Ian not committing to Caryn, they lost her vote for sure--and they did. I think they were better off with Caryn for game reasons--as Tom said, Katie turned once on them with Gregg--Caryn had been true to them the entire time. I would have to think after hearing all the alliance talk the girls had during Ian/Tom's time away, Jenn has to really be feeling on the outside right now. It was make clear to her that Tom/Ian/Katie have been together a long time. All she had was Gregg. I think Jenn needs to win immunity, or she will be looking at the game from the jury box.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:35 am
I just saw her picture on the CBS Early Show page and I'm not so sure it's the same woman. Very attractive and she looks like she may have gained back the weight she lost and then a few pounds.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 9:47 am
Watching the show again and thinking about the insider videos helped things become a little clearer. First, Katie, Jenn and Ian are very close, closer than you might think. I think that early shot we saw of them discussing who would go next, with Ian & Katie pushing to boot Caryn and Jenn really trying to get Ian to turn on Tom, was very telling. They are the ones who made the decision to get rid of Caryn. Tom just went along with them because there was nothing he could do. Those three are the ones calling the shots, NOT Tom, and he knows it. In light of this, Ian's decision to take Tom was really a protective measure because he didn't want Tom to get with Jenn & Caryn, like others have said. Sadly, I think Tom, in his insane loyalty to Ian, would not have taken the opportunity. Obviously, Tom needs to win this next immunity or he is gone from the game. Oh, and I think that the reason the female alliance couldn't get it together is because Katie actively dislikes Caryn and Jenn is not too fond of her either. There was no way that an alliance would have been successful because of that.
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Luvmom
Member
10-17-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:08 am
Native_texan, I'm with you on the Ian/Katie thing.There is something about the way Ian looks at Katie.I think he REALLY likes her and being in the enviroment they are in makes it stronger.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:20 am
ian and katie look like spaghetti and a meatball. haven't heard any rumors about town about them being an item......maybe, though. from what katie says--and the fact that her sister's husband is the person who visited her, not any gal or guy pals of her own-- she doesn't have (m)any friends. she said ian was her best (or only) friend in the world and she thought she had lost him. kind of sad, if she really doesn't have any friends from most of her 29 years of life being in the same town.
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