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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i was worried for katie, since she's our 'local gal'. i was afraid she would go if her team lost the immunity challenge.
they might be smart to break up the jeff/kim (jif) thing on the ulong TEA m...(all i can think of is oolong tea!)
we do not need them on the next TAR or to see their wedding on tv :-) please, God!

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
uh, blue, those poles she knows are vertical, while these were horizontal. maybe she could have 'bopped' across them?! LOL
i also wondered about the glasses and making fire. i remember one gal's luxury item was a magnifying glass and they made fire in africa with it. i would think some glasses would do the same thing...

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 11:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Exactly, Tabby. And shouldn't a firefighter know how to make fire? "Know thine enemy"


Spear
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08-06-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 11:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You can't use just any pair of glasses to start a fire. The glass lens needs to be convex (for far-sighted people) not concave (for near-sightedness) and the grade needs to be quite high, like a magnifying glass. BB in Season 1 was able to do it because he outsmarted the producers and had glasses made especially for making fire. They won't allow that any more.


Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I forget which competitor it was, but just before he tried the barrel he paused dramatically to concentrate. Jeff P. Said " He is centering." The next scene was the guy going splat on the barrel. I believe in mental preparation too but I thought it was funny.(As long as he didn't get hurt.)

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was Coby Dogdoc.

Mybbusername
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08-22-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Anyone else find that James reminds them of Ernest? (Ernest goes to camp, Ernest saves Christmas, etc.)



Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep he sure does. I dont think I will survive a whole season of listening to him. I don't think he is going to last very long.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Loved the show last night.
I kind of like Hillbilly. (love his straight to the point attitude) I like Angie for the same reason.



Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Also, most lenses made for glasses today are plastic.

Surely, Jeff and Kim don't think they're going to be the next Rob and Amber, do they?

Don't rats carry disease? I do know they do not carry rabies. I learned this after my son was bit by a wild mouse he then killed. I went to all the trouble of going outside, finding it, putting it in something and taking its body to the ER with us and they looked at me like I was out of my mind.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh they do Native. They think they can make it to the end at least that is the impression their little tribe mates are getting. It could be the death for them. I look to see this duo broken up very fast.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't much care for Jeff. I hope they revolt and get him outta there.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Lycanthrope. During his camera time, I got "robfather" attitude vibes from Jeff. The vote results also makes me think that he is quite the puppet master on this team. Editing isn't showing the real truth (like it ever does), but the fact that everyone who wanted to vote for Kim ended up voting for Ashlee indicates to me that Jeff has influence.

And would someone please explain Ashlee's vote to me? If Ashlee thought it was a 4/4 tie between herself and Kim...why on earth would she vote for Jeff, thereby ensuring only 3 votes for Kim??? Was she trying to ensure that she went home?



What the heck did I miss last night???

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes I think she wanted to go home. Remember she wouldnt eat the clam, then she just went into the tent when everyone was celebrating having fire. I think she just was not ready to deal with the rats. In her parting words she said something to the effect that she was glad. So I think she definitely wanted to go home and I also wonder if she didnt ask people to vote her out but that editing didnt show that either.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe she also wanted to give him a vote for the record, in case sometime a tiebreaker is # of previous votes against you.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, you are correct. In the voting comments on Insider, Stephanie, James, and Angie all say that Ashlee asked to be voted off (and they all were reluctant to do it). Seems clear that she just gave up.


Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Native-texan, the bacteria in fleas on rats were resposnible for the great plague of London centuaries ago. Rats are carriers of Leptospirosis. Bacterial contamination of the environment by rat urine spreads the disease. Maybe the ones on the island are healthy.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Dogdoc.

I think I would still have a hard time eating them.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find out the rats were planted there for effect. When that one rat jumped a foot high after some woman screamed at it, I thought it was more scared of her. Then we didn't see them anymore. You would think they would be scrambling all over the contestants as they slept. I didn't see any bugs either. i imagine bug repellent is handed out so no one gets sick or infected from the bites as we used to see in past shows.


Hootyhoot
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12-18-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was really impressed by the way Angie came through on that very physical reward challenge. She doesn't look like a person who trains or pays a lot of attention to physical fitness, so I think she should get extra credit for giving it everything she had to win it. So far she's very easy to root for!

Azriel
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08-01-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re: The rats.
Well, DUH! They had food sitting out all around their camp. If you leave open used coconuts with meat all in them lying around camp what do you expect? If they don't want critters around they should be burying their food wastes well away from camp.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What's with Willard doing the sidestroke? My GRANDMOTHER did the sidestroke! That is a very slow stroke, and the only time I can think it would be appropriate is when carrying another person. Can you tell I was a lifeguard in my younger days?

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Umm -- he's probably someone's GRANDFATHER! :-) Granted, Tom probably is too, but we have a friend who's a firefighter chief about Tom's age, and he can outwork 3 men half his age. Tom really made the "young bucks" on the other team look pathetic in the Immunity challenge!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was wondering why some of the younger folks did not go and help Willard. It was obvious he was struggling. I understand letting someone carry their own weight, but good grief, this was a team effort. They could not start until Willard was at the float anyway, so what was the big hurry for a few to get there first? Remember Roger from Australia? He had just learned to swim the week before and when they jumped off the cliff into the water, some of the younger guys went and helped him along. Seemed like none of these even considered it. Seemed a little stupid to me unless they were told each person had to swim on their own. If so, I did not hear it.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wondered if Willard brought the rats....<runs off singing Ben....>

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Teachmichigan, you talk as though Tom were an old man. I realize age is relative -- to me Tom is one of the "young bucks" -- but he is only 41. And for someone who has always been active and stayed in shape that's not old; he should be competitive physically with anyone on the show.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I’d agree that a 41-year-old that is in good condition can easily out do twenty-year-olds who aren’t in as good condition. Forty-one is just not that old. Having said that, full credit to him for doing it.

Has anyone watched the fire-fighter games and competitions? If you have, you would have no problem seeing how this must be a cakewalk for someone like him. Those competitions are incredibly tough.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is an example of a typical fire-fighter challenge competition. This is a full course and there is no pause between events.

THE COMPETITION

Each event must be performed in the order specified below.

EVENT 1: High Rise Pack Carry. The competition starts at the base of the tower. The hose pack cannot be touched before the start. The 3"-in. hose load and cover (42 lb.) may be carried in any manner and must be deposited into the container on the top floor. Proper placement is on or in the container, with no part of the pack touching the deck. A 2-second penalty will be assessed for an infraction. The hose load must stay on the top platform. The competitor is disqualified if the high-rise pack falls off the top of the tower. The handrails may be used in climbing the tower. Steps may be taken in multiples on the way up, but every step must be contacted and the handrail grasped when descending the drill tower. Failure to touch each step on the descent will result in a 2-second penalty per infraction.

EVENT 2: Hose Hoist. A 42-lb. donut roll of large diameter hose and 16mm (5/8"-in.) kern mantle rope is used for this event. The competitor is not allowed to stand on anything other than the top platform while hoisting. The evolution is complete when the roll clears the railing at the top of the tower and is placed in container on the top floor. The donut roll must ascend; loss of control (i.e., slippage of more than one balcony) will result in disqualification. Proper placement is on or in the container, with no part of the donut touching the deck. A 2-second penalty will be assessed for an infraction. The donut roll must stay on the top platform. Disqualification results with any loss of control of the donut roll, including falling off the tower, rolling down the stairs or interfering with the adjacent competitor. A fallen donut roll may not be retrieved.

EVENT 3: Forcible Entry. The forcible entry evolution utilizes the Keiser Force Machine™ (a chopping simulator). Using the 9-lb. shot mallet provided, the competitor must drive the 160-lb. steel beam a horizontal distance of 5-ft. Pushing, raking or hooking the beam is not allowed; only the head of the mallet must strike the beam. The handle must not come in contact with the beam at any time. The upper edge of the beam will be covered with pressure sensitive tape, making infractions visible by a mark on the tape. A 5-second penalty is assessed for each infraction after the first handle strike. Both hands must be above the tape mark on the handle (12-in. from the head end) at the point of impact. A 2-second penalty is assessed for any portion of each inch that the sled is short of the end of the tray. The hammer must be placed on the designated 3'x3' mat. A 2-second penalty is assessed for this infraction.

EVENT 4: Hose Advance. Traveling 140-ft. through course delimiters, any deviation from the marked course or knocking over the obstacle will result in a 5-second penalty for each infraction. The competitor must pick up the nozzle end of the 1.75-in. charged hose line, forward of the 6’ stripe and drag it a distance of 75 feet. Once the nozzle penetrates the swinging doors (i.e., crosses the 75-ft. stripe) the competitor opens the nozzle, hits the target with the water stream, shuts down the nozzle and places the nozzle on the pavement. If the nozzle is not shut before it is placed down, the competitor must go back and close it. If course staff is required to shut off the nozzle it is a 5-second penalty. If the nozzle opens after hitting the ground, there is no penalty and the competitor can continue to the victim rescue.

EVENT 5: Victim Rescue. A 175-lb. Simulaids, Inc., Rescue Randy® mannequin must be dragged backwards a distance of 100-ft. Carrying the dummy is not permitted. If any competitor crosses the course delineator (i.e., goes out of lane), a 5-second penalty will be assessed. Any contact with the opposing competitor will result in disqualification. The mannequin must not be grasped by its clothing or appendages. Time stops when the competitor and victim completely cross the finish line.
The Course Marshal, at his discretion, may stop any contestant who in an official's opinion, creates, or is in a dangerous or unsafe situation.

http://www.firefighter-challenge.com:8000/firefighter/ChallengeRules.htm

Sounds like fun doesn't it! And, keep in mind that they do this while wearing their full heavy coat and equipment.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re the rats

I'm positive those rats aren't planted. Rat infestations on islands are legendary. They are european rats that were carried in cargo. They end up in these remote locations were the native fauna (animal life) have no defense against them and the invaders have no natural predators. They tend to become very overpopulated. (Australia and Hawaii are two better known places that have had severe problems with foreign fauna.)

The one rat that jumped exactly as Janu screamed is simply an editing trick. For the editing team, searching through their piles of rat footage and splicing a jumping one in with Janu's scream is simple pie.

I'm also quite sure the rats are crawling all over them when they try to sleep, and it is probably pretty awful. I personally had the unfortunate experience of camping out west without a tent in an area with pack rats (a different species). They DID crawl on us at night. One of them also chewed on the sports cap to my water bottle. He chewed so hard on the plastic he left blood on it. Lucky I had a back up since we were carrying two days worth of water. These folks only have one water bottle a piece.

Rats are gross and I don't envy them in the least.

Also - the survivors do not get bug spray unless there are new rules this season.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Tuesday, March 01, 2005 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I trained to be a life guard too - my side stroke was very fast!!! It is the most energy easy stroke, front crawl wears out non-swimmers very, very fast.

(I need to start swimming again. All this swimming is making me homesick for the pool.)