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Essence
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01-12-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Mak1, that does help explain it. But in this game of the unexpected, you would think they would want to keep their strongest around since they are still a team. Because of that move against Bobby Jon they still lost a strong team member when they lost Angie.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved it! I did hate to see Angie go,she was fun to watch in the challenges. The girl rocked!
I also say root beer and stew??? I guess that's better than Pringles and beer. Sheesh,who thinks up the menu?

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Didn't CBS at last minute hire a bunch of aspiring actors/actresses to be on survivor (hence the career of Waitor/bartender alot of them have). I think that is what made up most of Ulongs team and therefore am not surprised by the way things are going. Just feel sorry for the others in the tribe that may have not known that!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Awesome show! I loved it! I wish Angie was still there...but what a delicious mix up!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bob - great explanation of the various twist rationales.

Mocha - root beer and stew - BWAH HA HA!!

And you know, I could UNDERSTAND root beer and stew together on a menu if say, Dad's/A&W/Hire's and Dinty More were SPONSORING the food reward. But I didn't hear any product placement of that horrible meal.

While I did not like that Koror had to vote someone off, I have to admit the other parts I DO LIKE now.

I like that the winning team decided the loser's immunity. When Survivor first started back in 2000, I started watching after the merge. So I never understood what team immunity was (until the next season), and I had pictured it as the IMMUNE team would vote off someone from the losing team. So I like the idea of the teams having influence over each other. It sure does fark up any point of forming alliances.

As for the immunity being given to Ibrahim, I like that Ulong had to think on their feet, now that I think about it. I definitely love when teams cannot PLAN things in advance.

I still wish they would have voted out James. Grrr...his comments about being beaten by a homosexual, his bossing around of the women, his bravado is getting to be too much for me to watch. GRRRR!!

Great comments by everyone on this episode! Interesting how we all see it!!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This was the first episode I watched this season. Let me just say: Jeebus, Ibrahim is hotter than Hades!

Halfunit
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09-02-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
While I would not choose stew and root beer,
me thinks the castaways weren't complaining.


So..... who's having stew with biscuits tonight?


Landi
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07-29-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
bite your tongue, half! this is saint paddy's day! it's corned beef, cabbage, and red potatoes! okay, so i'll throw in some root beer.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Angie did explain the voting a bit on the Early show.. said they didn't consider James BECAUSE he was weaker in challenges and wanted to bring him to a merge. Of the two big strong guys, Bobby Jon was considered essential because he was the major provider. But she also said they were completely unprepared for that immunity thing.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Willard didn't ask to be voted off and had hoped that they would keep winning and not have to go to tribal council, but he said in this situation he also would have voted him off because he simply couldn't cope .. sort of alluded to some food mishap the third day that knocked him for a loop and said the lack of sleep got to him as well.

I didn't mind the double booting but did mind the other team having a part in the weaker team's choice. But.. oh well.. they try various twists and some work better than others (ugh.. purple rock).

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Landi - What about Irish Stew and Scones?

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think we sometimes get too wrapped up in who "deserves" to stay. As much as I hate to see some people go and some stay, I feel if someone stays, they deserve to be there.

Why should anyone be "allowed" to stay longer than someone else? That is part of the game. You make yourself useful without putting a target on your back. Angie went from being a target because they thought she was going to be weak to being a target because she was strong.

There are many strategies used in reality shows. We may not agree with them, but if it works, so be it. Unfortunately, the strategy that works one season, flops the next and what works for one person, just doesn't fly for someone else. The people involved are always different.

And what works in the beginning of the game can become a liability at the end. Case in point Tom and Ian, strongest and hardest workers on their team, but once they are on their own and not working on a team, they are doomed. They will probably be done in by people who do not "deserve" to stay as much as they do.

Also the unforseen element has always been an intergral part. The contestants go into this game knowing to look for the unforseen. If they are not prepared for that, then they have no business there in the first place.

The uncertainty is what makes the show interesting. I think it would be pretty boring if one tribe just picks off another and then turns on itself until the "deserving" player is left. If that were the case, we could quit watching until the last show when the rest vote between Tom and Ian. Who could be more deserving than these two?

I think this show was great. They actually threw in a double twist. Both teams had to vote someone off and one team get to give someone on the opposite team immunity. There was a form of this done last year. Remember when a player from the winning team went to tribal council and picked someone for immunity? I really liked the fact that the sure thing ended up not being sure after all. The look on Ibrehem's face when he realized there was hope for him not to go home was priceless. I will be interested in seeing how he reacts to the second chance. And I loved the fact that they were not allowed time to discuss their vote. I bet from now on, there will be a "fallback" vote planned in case of a twist.

As far as them getting kicked while they are down, what if the immunity challenge had gone the other way, and it very well could have. Willard would still be there. Sorry, but they are the ones who lost, they pay the price.

Makays
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07-12-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Allie...all good points...I loved last nights show....

In hopes of not sounding too corny..to qoute Emeril "Bam...Let's mix it up a notch!"

As viewers we tend to get put to sleep by the same thing happening week after week. It was great to have that twist in there. I hated to see Angie go. My druthers would of been James.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Obviously I am in the small minority. I didn't like the show at all. I thought it was very arbitrary and strategy, for Ulong, was out the window.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think i'll have seabiscuits and gravy for breakfast tomorrow. not sure about the rootbeer, though...maybe a rootbeer float for dessert?

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Beef stew with squishy white bread rolls washed down with sugary root beer sounds like heaven given their circumstance. YUM!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I, too, am enjoying the "loved it" or "hated it" reaction to this episode. One of my coworkers watches as many reality shows as I do -- and she came in absolutely livid this morning -- while I was grinning from ear to ear! LOL

Wonder what next week will offer? :-)

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 5:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the stew and root beer is one of the best meals they have served there. The stew is healthy and root beer is supposed to be good for the stomach. Biscuits are allways tasty. In the past, haven't teams gotten sick after eating food that was too rich for them.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that Ibrehem losing the challenge for Ulong was pretty significant. If they'd won, they still would have lost someone but they would have been able to give someone on Kuror immunity. If they were thinking at all, they would have given it to Willard and forced Kuror to vote someone else out which would have exposed more about the alliances. Might have stirred things up some.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 12:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cousin, would really have loved to see that happen. Oh, well.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think so too. Judging by Willard's comments on the Survivor internet show, if he'd made it to the merge, he had plans to try and get together with any remaining Ulong members and a few others at the bottom of his tribe and try and vote out Tom and Ian. Would have made for interesting viewing!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, March 20, 2005 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I am glad he didn't make it ot the merge then! The very idea of voting out my two fav guys!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 4:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Frankly nothing about Willard made for interesting viewing, except when they cut from the group complaining about him doing nothing but eating and then showing him eating coconut as fast as he could shove it in..

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I LOL at that scene he reminded me of a monkey

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After watching the internet Survivor Live interview with Willard I think he WAS an interesting person, they just edited everything about him out of the show.

I think Survivor needs a shake up in its editing staff. They are showing no imagination in how to put the seasons together anymore. That's why one seems like such a rerun of the others.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tom and Ian are two of my favourites as well but strictly from a game perspective, if the others don't see how dominant and generally well liked they are and go after them after the merge when they have the numbers to do something, they're not playing the game very well. You sure wouldn't want to go up against either of them in the final two. If one or two players from Ulong are left at the merge, that's the time to do it as they would go along with anything that would keep them there for a while longer.