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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:24 am
I still don't understand why everyone else is starving and Katie hasn't lost any weight?????
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:26 am
No clue Jan, but I have no complaints about the way Katie is looking!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:33 am
I agree Lance. I think that Katie looks great!
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:33 am
Maybe Katie is one of those women who can't lose weight even on a starvation-level diet. Ask me how I know that!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:41 am
Some people have screwy metabolisms and when they eat very little their bodies hold onto the fat as a precaution against future starvation. Also, I think they are actually able to get more calories than you'd think, if they can be bothered to eat. Coconuts are calorific, if she's a comfort eater and actually eats a lot of it she'd easily be eating more than 1000 cals a day. No problem holding onto fat eating that much. (Yeah, I'm with you there, Catfat!)
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:47 am
Only - that's a very interesting view, I think you may be quite right. Ian has always been willing to drop Tom at some level, and he may be wondering when the time will be right. I'm pretty sure that Ian thinks he cannot beat Tom if they are the final two. He'll take Katie if he wins immunity, and let Tom go. Jen is more of a threat to win that last immunity than Katie is. If Tom and Ian are smart, they'll let her go if she doesn't win immunity. Really, I think Tom has to win the next two immunities to make it to the final two. Ian is better liked by both the gals. But if Tom wins the final immunity, I think he'll have a hard time deciding whether to take Ian or Katie. He seems to have more loyalty to Ian; but I think the jury would vote *against* Tom ought of spite? Especially if it's Jen in the final two against him.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 10:51 am
I was wondering that too Jan,lol. I think Ian has the hots for Katie and she knows it and is using him. My prediction if Tom doesn not get immunity in the final four he will not make it to the final three. If Jenn does not get immunity in final four she will not make it to final three. Final two will be either Tom and Ian or Ian and Katie.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:09 am
I don't think Tom will take Ian to the final two if he wins immunity. I keep thinking about the previews for Sunday when Tom asks Ian and Ian admits that he'd told the women that he'd vote against Tom. I think Tom sees that as a betrayal, and would have no problem getting rid of Ian.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:14 am
Karuuna, I think that Tom is not the guaranteed winner everyone thinks he is in the final 2. What's more, I had a sudden epiphany that, in fact, the editing might be leading us to believe that Tom is the obvious winner when, in fact, he loses the jury vote to one of the other 3. One thing the editors have given hints about but haven't made a huge issue of is how controlling people on his tribe found Tom. Coby really disliked him and his interviews after showed that he still had issues with him. Janu and Caryn have made similar statements, though in her post-boot interview, Caryn seems to have had a better relationship with him than with with the others. Jenn said in the insider videos that she felt Ian/Tom were abusing Katie. (Yes, she feels they're being too mean to her...boo hoo) Plus there's the whole shower thing. And Katie has made it pretty clear that she finds Tom to be a meanie! In addition to having some votes against him, Tom is the only one of the final four who has NO guaranteed votes for himself. You figure if Jenn is F2, she's got Gregg's vote, if it's Katie, she's evidently got Ian's vote and Ian seems to have Katie's vote (unless they're against each other and then it seems like Ian would have Tom's vote and Katie would probably have Jenn's vote.) There's not one person I could point to and say...that's definitely a Tom vote. Tom's straightforward, blunt personality is probably going to work against him at the final TC. This seems like a group that heavily values the touchy feely stuff (probably a product of them being together so long and being the perceived underdogs) so I can see them picking at Tom for his perceived arrogance and his "get it done" approach to the game. They'll want to see tears and apologies and I don't see Tom giving it to them. How many times have we seen one of the tribe say that Tom needs to go or he's going to win, yet he's never gone. My thinking is that the editor's are going for the big surprise...Tom makes it to F2 and loses. Darn it. I hope I'm really wrong because I've been pulling for a Tom win since the sandbag challenge.
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:23 am
I'd like Tom to win as well, but I agree he'll have some trouble. On the other hand, sometimes when they get to that final vote, they will grudgingly give it to the person that they dont like, because they have to admit that person played the game well. So, I'm not quite as pessimistic as you. I also know there are lots of times that I'm convinced someone will vote one way or the other, but they vote differently for a reason that never occurred to me. Or maybe I'm just dreaming. A girl can dream, right? Lady, I missed the previews, but dang, I always knew Ian would turn. Guess I didn't figure he'd be dumb enough to admit it. But given this last show, I'm not surprised. I think Katie has him all twitterpated and he's not thinking straight!
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Chicagolooper
Member
05-09-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:23 am
When Ian took Tom after the RC, I thought OMG what a dumb move - but then I thought, wait, there has to be more behind this. I really agree with the earlier poster that Ian wanted to get Tom away from the girls. I see Ian wanting to separate from Tom. I thought, at one point, that the drama between Ian and Katie might be a little too much, i.e. planned - but then I think that may be beyond the capability of the people involved, I mean it seemed very sincere. If Tom doesn't win the immunities, he is gone. He would be too much of a threat. Ian is a puzzle. It will be fascinating to see how this all plays out on Sunday.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:24 am
I just hope that if Tom or Ian is in the f2 that the rest of the jury looks at who worked the hardest to survive and not ride on everyones coat tails like it past seasons. i think they all have it backwards on what survivor means.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:24 am
I think Tom is a bully and I wouldnt vote for him. I would love to see him booted and Ian sitting by the fire crying, he is sorry.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:26 am
You are right Chicago, Ian knows that Tom is his biggest threat. If it ends up Tom and Ian as final two neither of them can count on the win. However, Ian knows that if it is him with anyone else he will win and Tom knows that too. That is also why Ian is isolating Tom. That is why he also had to get rid of Caryn.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 11:37 am
I actually think Katie has lost weight, her face and shoulder area look thinner to me than when she started. (I looked at her pre show video and compared to last night's video. In that video she said she wasn't there to win a million dollars but to lose weight and they can't vote her off 'til she reaches her goal weight! She was being funny!) I just think everyone else is skin and bones or close to it and it is quite noticeable that she is not so thin as everyone else. Caryn looks different and younger with make up on. (I didn't see the Early Show.) CBS has a couple of short videos that she made the day after she got voted off. She talked about her experiences. The part I watched was very boring. I think Katie has the best chance of making it to the F2 because I think all 3 would want her sitting next to them because the jury probably wouldn't give her the mil. I thought Caryn's spill all speech at TC was her way of trying to reinforce the all girl alliance. Great show!
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 12:48 pm
I think Steph might possibly be a vote for Tom, unless Coby has influenced her. I agree, with Karuuna that Jenn may be the one to boot before Katie. Jenn has done far better than any of the other women at recent challenges (once Steph was gone) and even edged Gregg out once. Give the right competition, she could win next II and then would be in F3 and would have a decent chance of winning one of the straightforward pole or balance comps.. so watch OUT. They should have booted her last night and didn't even need Caryn to do so. Tabby, I'd be tempted to drive up to Merced, almost, for a Tom or Ian crowd but certainly not for a Katie crowd! UCK!
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Spygirl
Moderator
04-23-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 1:03 pm
Tossing my opinion about Katie in the mix...I think she looks terrific! I find it difficult to look at Caryn and even Jen because they are so gaunt. The only reason Jen doesn't look as sick is because her <*cough*> medically enhanced bustline is unaffected.
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Weinermr
Member
08-18-2001
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 1:24 pm
I agree that Katie looks "healthier" than the others, but it doesn't look to me like she's gained any weight, or even maintained it. She does look thinner to me than when she got there. I'm sure we'll find out in a couple of days.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 1:28 pm
LOL, Spygirl. I don't know if this has been discussed, but I am pounding my head trying to think of what celebrity Jen reminds me of in her present state.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 1:54 pm
Jenn reminds me of Cameron Diaz.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 2:16 pm
Me too
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 2:16 pm
and Malibu Barbie
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 2:36 pm
That's what I was thinking - not trying to belittle Ms. Diaz, but I think the clear complexion is what was confusing me.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 2:38 pm
Ian has spent to much time with dolphins and not enough time with women...Katie knows this and is using her womanly wiles on him. I lost some respect for Ian when he started whining like a little school boy...it reminded me of little kids running around saying, "If you do this, I won't be your friend anymore." Ian may not be able to read her, but she knows what she's doing and Ian was ready to quit the game for her. Ian said he never had a car...but I wonder if he's never had a girlfriend, also. Jenn will probably win as the Amber effect is going to kick in.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, May 13, 2005 - 3:15 pm
What terrified me is.. what if Jenn wins II.. I think Tom would be toast then, if Katie wants to keep Ian. Then, what if Jenn managed to win the final immunity.. she would take.. Katie. and I would barf.
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