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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:14 pm
I rewatched the IC and they weren't laughing a Janu until after her and Jeff had begun thier banter about starting fire, etc. Not when she went out - the people they showed looked more like they were stunned at the point where she quit.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:23 pm
Excuse me, but please do homework first. Osten was sick. He had a staph infection. All the members of his tribe even said how sick he was. Yes, he was out of his element, but at least he quit because he was physically sick, and not because someone hurt his feelings.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:25 pm
Ok Lady, all I remember of Osten was him drowning in two feet of water and him laying around the beach all the time
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:33 pm
I didn't remember the staff infection either. I just remember Jeff was very po'd.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:36 pm
I have never heard that Osten had a staph infection. Haven't many of the other competitors been ill and managed to stay in the game? Nevertheless, I'm not trying to start an argument...that was just the first I had heard of this. This is Survivor, and they can change the rules as they see fit. I think Jeff was making it clear to Janu that she had another option that would get her out of the game and keep Stephanie in for a few more days if she chose to elect to use that option (I wonder if Jeff has the ability to make these decisions "on the fly"). It should be known as "Janu's Final Revenge!" I'm sure she and Koby got a kick out of manipulating everyone else for a change.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:41 pm
I never heard about any infection either... All I remember is he did not do much of anything and he was afraid of the birds and Jeff was ticked at him.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:43 pm
I took the laughter as nervous laughter. I think most of them were very uncomfortable in the challenge and that can make a person laugh sometimes. Also it was from relief of knowing no matter what they wouldn't be first to quit.
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Jewels
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:49 pm
I have a question/comment.... Do you guys think it is fair that Janu gets to be on the jury even though she quit the game? I don't think she has the right, when she gave up like she did. What do you think?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:51 pm
Jewels, I didn't even think about that. I guess I think it is okay, assuming "they" never gave not being on the jury as a consequence for quitting... Is Janu the first quitter who is a jury member?
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:51 pm
Somebody asked why T/I/K/S didn't vote off Gregg, since he is obviously so strong and I think that for weak people, voting off the strong is a good strategy but for strong people all it does is give weak people the numbers to vote you off eventually. Let's say T/I/K/S get Caryn to vote off Gregg this round (and there's no guarantee that she would agree!) That means that Caryn, Jenn, Janu are either sitting ducks for those four OR they get Katie to join them and vote off one of T/I/S, starting with Tom if he doesn't have immunity. If you are strong and in the dominant group, stability for as long as possible is in your best interests. You don't want to mix things up until you have to.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:57 pm
This is what I recall about Osten: http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor7/survivors/chat/ryano/ryano.shtml
quote:Ryan O: Osten had pus filled holes in his body that needed to be cleaned out regularly. It was pretty disgusting. I'm not exactly sure what it was.
Don't know if that's a staph infection.
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:02 pm
Even if you quit, you're on the jury if you were part of the last nine left on the island, I would think. I don't think Osten even knew he had a staph infection until *after* he quit?
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:11 pm
He knew and his teammates knew how sick he was ... wouldn't pus fill nodules on a tropical island worry anyone else? ... and Jeff knew too, but it wasn't as good tv, I guess
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:19 pm
I can buy that about the Janu laughing. I can sit and watch a show and miss some of whats going on. I still interperated some of the laughter as the kind of laugh when you just can't believe somebody just did something you knew they would do but hoped they wouldn't....I think. This difference I think about the Osten and Janu quitting is when Osten quit it didn't change the dynamics of the game much....Janu quitting really put a kink is some of the works. And I never really thought if it till it was mentioned, but Janu being on the jury is ok with me...quit or not...she still somehow managed to get into the Final 9.
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Crzndeb
Member
07-26-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:22 pm
Regarding Steph's crying: If I had not had very much food, very little shelter from the elements, skanky teeth from no brushing, probably not a real good night sleep, losing a bazillion challenges, bustin my backside, cleaning my backside with who knows what, PMS and worse yet, you know what, I think I would probably cry if I was getting voted off when someone else wanted to go. But then again I cry pretty easy WITHOUT all those added factors. Unfortunately, I bet she goes next week. But I say BRAVO to her....she is, imho, the best woman ever to play this game.
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:27 pm
Lady, yeah, as I recall, it was never mentioned on the show, so you wouldn't know about the staph infection unless you read or heard of it elsewhere. All you saw was Jeff being thoroughly disgusted with Osten, and throwing down the torch instead of snuffing it out as usual. Even afterwards, I recall Jeff saying he was mad because of all the people that want so badly to be there, to have someone quit was a huge insult to all those others. So maybe Osten had his reasons, but there was lots of conflicting info out there. So I don't blame folks for having different opinions about him. Crzndeb, I do agree, Steph is a tough competitor; and I can't imagine what my behavior might be like under those circumstances either. Heck, I don't behave perfectly and my belly is always full and my teeth are always brushed. And Lord knows, I've been known to roll my eyes now and then. 
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:42 pm
Sassy, I love that idea of yours! Voting for one of the bottom 3, yeah that would work. Stephanie would be in the final 3 if it was that way!
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Brad_ups_man
Member
07-13-2004
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 1:58 pm
Stephanie is my girl! Her drive and determination, not to mention her passion for the game, is unparalleled! She totally rocks! She cried last night and my heart really went out to her. I don't think she was making an emotional appeal at all. She was just so tired of losing and emotionally she had given all she had and to have Koror sit there and force suffering Janu to stay in over Stephanie who truly deserves to stay was crushing to her spirit. I love this girl!
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 2:02 pm
Thank you. Being an outdoors person I just don't buy it when people say that those people deserved to win as they got to stay the whole time and pissed less people off or they didn't lie (which how do you know we only see 1 hour of what 48 hours of events), but to me if you think of a "survivor' most of those people wouldn't have been able to survive alone on the island for 4 days let alone 33 - Survival is not playing nice with others but being able to phsycially/mentally/emotionally able to withstand harsh and unexpected environments. JMO!
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 2:29 pm
Jewels, I think if Janu had said she wanted to go home when she quit they would have had to let her. That would have left an even number on the jury and they would probably have brought back whomever was voted out before Koby. Janu was strong in the reward competition but she does look sick. Didn't Jeff put her torch out and not throw it down.
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 2:36 pm
Jeff put her torch out then laid it down after she left.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:21 pm
Dogdoc, even the non jury members don't get to go home. She would have just gone to loser lodge instead of with Coby.. She'll have a great time with Coby, eat, drink, be merry, dance and then can come back to tribal council and make interesting faces next time. As for Steph and an eyeroll.. I'd be willing to bet plenty of others rolled eyes and smiled, but we just didn't see that. Katie is rapidly going down as one of my least favorite survivors, especially among the women.. not below Heidi, but.. pretty low. I'm still behind Steph as far as she can take it, which I fear isn't far. We've never had a female alliance survive yet and with Jenn being more allied with Gregg and Katie feeling more solid with Ian and Tom.. Nah.. Ian and Tom will definitely want Katie at the end.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:32 pm
Here's an interesting article someone posted on Usenet: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050422/D89KMJ182.html
quote:Viewers didn't see Tornell's concern about whether she would be on the jury if she quit the CBS reality show. After going back and forth for several hours, Tornell said Probst asked for a break in the filming. "The cameras stopped," said Tornell. "Tribal council got really heated. You guys didn't even get any part of that. (Probst) goes, 'This is off the record. What's going on, Janu? What are you worried about?' And I said, 'Basically, I don't want to lose my place in the jury. I don't know where this takes me." Tornell said Probst left the tribal council area and consulted with producers. (The three players who quit "Survivor" in previous seasons departed before juries were formed.) "It was all a new drama situation for everybody involved," said Tornell. Probst returned and assured Tornell that she wouldn't forfeit her place on the jury by quitting. The cameras started back up, and Tornell did just that.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:42 pm
Sassy, one other way to win is to be Rob's girl
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Jewels
Member
09-23-2000
| Friday, April 22, 2005 - 4:37 pm
Thank you for posting that, Spear. I knew there was more to tribal council than what we saw, that is why I wasn't quick to judge Jeff and his comments....it's all in the editing. I still don't think it is fair that Janu is remaining on the jury. I don't care about numbers and if it leaves it uneven. Let the producers deal with unbalanced numbers, they have been able to deal with tie votes before, this shouldn't be any different. She quit the game, she gave up her right to be there. End of story.
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