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Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
why should he have given Steph the truck? Y'all are turning her into Rupert Jr.

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
duh! 'cause she played one of the best games we've ever seen, 'cause she beat out all the boys on her team, 'cause she's got cool hair, and most importantly, 'cause I said so.

But now that you mention it, he should have given RUPERT the truck!!!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
no duh .. I don't happen to share your opinion

Cliotheleo
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03-13-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And that's the great thing about opinions, we don't have to share them. I'm interested in hearing why you think she doesn't deserve it? (not the truck, the kudos) Do you think she's been over hyped?

Actually, the more I think about it, the truck should go to Boston Rob. ha ha

Mygetaway
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08-23-2000

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone know the final vote tally? Was it 6-1?
Thanks!

Egbok
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07-13-2000

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really liked this season of Survivor and all the "firsts". I'm glad Tom won and I wish Ian would have come in second, but he made his choice and I believe in his reason for opting out, because it was important to him at this point and time in his young life. I was amazed that it took him almost 12 hours standing on that small metal disc to come to his revelation!

And after the Reunion show was over, our local newsguy was doing a live report outside/under Letterman's marquee and he told us that Ian is moving to Hermosa Beach! I'll be looking for a tall, thin dolphin trainer this summer and say hello to him.

And wow...Guatemala is next, should be an interesting show. See you all next season!

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ladytex, I share your (non)opinion of Stephanie. I thought she was a cute, athletic female, but basically her sole achievement was to be the only Survivor of a lackluster tribe. Not too impressive.

I am a Tom-fan but I winced when he went after Ian so harshly. My best friend pointed out that it was a father trying to teach his son an important life lesson about taking responsibility for your actions, but since they AREN'T father and son and they ARE playing a game, I thought it was a little over the top. But thinking back, I realize that not only had Tom never considered voting out Ian, he actively tried to keep him in the game, even when it might have been in Tom's best interests to eliminate him (like at final 5, when he could have joined with Caryn and Jenn to get rid of Ian and then coasted through the immunities). The fact that Ian had a secondary alliance AND had considered voting Tom out made Tom doubt Ian's every action and had him wondering how stupid he had been to give him his unwavering loyalty. Hence the strong reaction. Not necessarily admirable but definitely human.

In the end, I still wish it could have been a Tom/Ian finale. I would have liked to have seen the two of them take it all the way and remain loyal throughout, but Ian had other things to consider. I did like the way that, before accepting his offer, Tom told Ian that he would be his friend no matter what and that Tom asked him once again before telling Jeff that he would vote Ian out. I do believe that if Ian had said, no, take me with you, Tom would have done it (well, at least considered it!)

Hollytree
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02-18-2005

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 3:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As much as I liked Stephanie, no I would not give my car/truck to her if I won. As a matter of fact, its really great and cool people like Steph that the others need to go after 1st in every game because they are natural winners and very popular. This, strangly, never occurs to anyone. It always surprises me that the Tom's and Steph's get so far in the games as they do, although it did occur to Greg. As much as it kills me to even say it, its someone as awful as Katie that you need to keep so you can look good by comparison if you make it to f2.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 3:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I, too, was hoping that Ian would respond, 'Yes, Tom, take me to the end after all'. But then I was also hoping that Jen would develop a heart and say 'No, Ian, I can't let you do this for me' and of course that was never going to happen.

Other then that little disappointment ~ great finale! And geeez, Jeff, a bit dark on the hair dye, eh?

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I noticed that James' hair also appeared to be dyed...real dark... not as dark as Jeff's, but noticible enough...Hillbilly went hollywood...LOL

I too was very disappointed that Tom honored Ian's request and took Katie... But I could tell that Ian wanted Tom's AND Katie's friendships more than he wanted the million...to me, that says quite a bit about Ian...to come so close and then give it all up to keep the respect of two people...

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 4:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What about Katie? I think she should have spoken up and said, "No, take Ian."
She could have saved herself the embarrassment of the last tribal council, and the huge loss to Tom on live TV, but instead she laid there on the raft and took a nice nap, and then thought she deserved to be in the final 2.
As much as Tom and Katie, Katie particularly, beat up on Ian over friendship, they both used him as a stepping stone to get to the top.

The [Tom] and [Katie} may have the money, but Ian still comes out the true hero.

<RA>

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tom is on the ES at 7:40. They will be dragging it out a little and have the final 4 on.

Appletalk
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03-27-2003

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 4:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with you Carrie. Ian is the real man of the group. They browbeat him for playing the game same as they were. What about Katie making a deal on the boat with Greg and Jen to be final 3. Seems she has forgotten that little deal. Neither Tom or Katie deserve Ian's respect and I hope that Ian figures that out and moves on his life without friends like that.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What did Tom do to Ian except ask Ian some questions and reconsider his commitment to him once it became apparent that Ian wasn't truly committed to supporting him?

I doubt that Ian could have defeated Tom in the final so his decision to step down probably cost him no more than a few thousand dollars. Instead of getting beat up at the final tribal council (let's face it - Ian waivered all over with his commitments to everyone), he was able to exit the game with integrity and class. Ian seems like a nice guy and a lousy liar, which is to his credit.

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Finally a real Survivor wins. I had decided if Katie won this thing never to watch again - but finally the jury got it right and gave it to the true Survivor.

I was so hoping that Tom would have forgotten his deal with Ian and took him to the final 2 - and was not shocked that Katie didn't have the guts to tell Tom too. I totally understand his disappointment with Ian - and am glad they have worked it out and are friends. Tom never waivered on thier friendship and was hurt to learn Ian had - although I found the confrontation harsh and what was Katie's point of joining in??

I hope Ian has watched the show and seen Katie's true colors and that he has confronted her about being so self-righteous out there when she was ready to turn on him when needed.


Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have been on vacation in Guatemala and plan on going again later this year. I'm totally psyched about next season's Survivor - should be veryyyyy interesting!!!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
FYI - from the Early Show

The final vote was 6-1, with only Koby voting for Katie.

Harry asked about Katie/Ian's relationship. Ian responded with "purely platonic" and then Katie with her usual lack of grace and class and concern for anyone else's feelings said that Ian had a crush on her.

I'm glad Tom won, I think he deserved it. I think Ian did a stand up kind of thing in stepping out, as Jimmer said.
But sheesh, I really wish Katie hadn't landed in second.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am glad Tom won as well. Tom realized that Ian's inability to admit his plan was due to maturity and recognized him as a good kid. Ian will struggle with his side stepping for a long time. He straightened it out with Tom but there is still a bad taste in his mouth about how he handled things, I am sure.

I was disappointed at the lack of applause for Coby's announcement. I celebrate the fact that gay's and lesbian's can adopt and sad that it is still a long rocky road to acceptance by a majority.

Great show. <walks off muttering, talking self out of looking at spoilers for Guatamala>

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't see nearly enough Ibrahim during the reunion. Not nearly enough at all.

And I *heart* Ian too. I wish he had won.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Ian's actions were right up there with Marcellas not using the golden veto. Ian got suckered by Katie who had absolutely no loyalty whatsoever. It was just plain dumb and a worthless sacrifice.

Ian could be sitting on a million dollars right now because there is no doubt in my mind he would have won the money over Tom.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah! Finally a rela survivor won! I kept yelling at Ian to realize that Katie was doing the same thing as he was yet he was the only one apologizing!! WTH! Anyway, it's been great reading all of your comments, till next time....take care

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think you are quite right Maris!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone know what Coby thinks that Tom wasn't truthful about? When he voted for Katie, he said it was because she was the only one who told the truth. I've watched every episode, and I never caught Tom in a lie. Did I miss something?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just like when Colby took Tina to Final 2 instead of the other dude (Jeff????) - Colby gave away his $1 million.

While some of these women tried to stay loyal to their "alliance of five," they really blew it when they had the numbers to have an all women alliance and take Tom out when he didnt' get immunity that week. But what can you do when you have a "big mouth" like Caryn running around. I have never seen anyone run back and forth between groups like she did. While Steph is one of my all time favorite Survivors, Caryn ranks way up there on my least favorites list.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Merrysea, I'm not sure either but Tom wasn't honest when he said that Caryn was lying about the conversation on the beach. I don't remember details but I remember the night Caryn was voted out, thinking Tom was not being honest about something she said. I'm no help...sorry.