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Raenstorm
Member
07-16-2004
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 5:02 pm
Okie doke. I'd stick around to chat but I have more treats to make for tomorrow. Hope everyone has a wonderful week! See ya next Thurs.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 5:03 pm
Did Chad get one vote only? Preview showed that Rory will be providing some more drama.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 5:07 pm
A little late to the party... but thanks all! Great job spoiling again, and much thanks for your efforts.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 6:07 pm
Great job Raen!
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 7:22 pm
Why on earth is Scout still there? She ducked the easiest physical challenge in the history of this show!
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 8:01 pm
IMO the team needed speed so Scout dumped the juice giving the other (faster) members a chance to compete against the guys. Great idea cause it worked and they won. She could have done the challenge but it would have cost them valuable time.
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 8:05 pm
I agree, Willsfan. Jeff even remarked that it was a good move.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 8:36 pm
It was a good move to have Scout skip her turn, just as it would be a good move to vote her off if they go to tribal council as a team next week. With the merge likely coming either next week or the week after, Scout has a good chance to slip through and then will not be viewed as a threat in the individual immunities. If that happens, she will easily make the final 4.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 12:50 am
Was that coffemaker a battery operated one, or are they dumping boiling water in it? Just wondering!
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 5:57 am
not sure what brand it was. the coffee was supplied by folgers but they did not say who made the machine.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 6:26 am
I agree that Scout needs to be voted out. She brings nothing to the physical challenges. She's always volunteering to sit out and picks the easiest part of the challenge to do - like putting together the tiki. I looked away for a min. and only heard Jeff say what she did, and while it was a good idea for that challenge, I think she should have been gone long before anyone else was voted off since she brings so little to the challenges for the tribe.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 6:38 am
Well, the ladies would be smart to keep her for the alliance after the merge. There is more to this game beside being strong. So far, Scout hasn't been that much of a liability. Besides, I don't think anyone feels threatened by Scout. She's a tough worker, a team oriented spirit and most likely won't win that many individual immunities so there will be time to vote her off later. Getting rid of Scout won't benefit the Yasur tribe. Keeping her won't cripple them either, and she would be another female vote after the merge.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 6:41 am
Huk, I was wondering about the coffeemaker, too. It was sitting on what looked like a stump, but I could swear I saw the coffeemaker plug stuck into it it. It could be a prop with a generator hidden inside. I think they did that once before with the refrigerator of Coke. I agree that Scout needs to go. I really like here, but she has managed to get out of doing anything physical the whole show. I'm wondering why she even bothered to apply. For that purpose, she is probably not being viewed as a threat, but I can't remember that there have been any challenges yet that only required mental strength and I think she could probably kick you-know-what there.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:51 am
I agree completely about Scout. On challenges she either takes on the role of something like opening a gate, or doesn't help at all with anything physical in nature. Yet they have been happy to vote off the guys who contribute to winning immunity challenges. This logic of theirs is something I can't relate to at all. If you don't win immunity challenges, you go to TC, and in the end at merger, there is a bigger group of them than of you--it's called Pagonging. If it was some guy instead of Scout, people would be climbing the walls saying they need to get rid of someone who is of so little help in challenges.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 9:18 am
I agree with posters stating Scout does not contribute much during physical challenges.I don't think Yasur is ready to vote her off yet.Lets remember that the Yasur team is a feminist team wanting to be the first all female alliance to make it to the final four.Plus we don't know what other strengths Scout has that may come into play later on. Her resume indicates she is a very intelligent and accomplished person in human relations. I think Ami wants Scout to be included in that foursome and also it also includes Julie from Lopevi and either Eliza or Leann. So Scout will be safe until the merge and if Yasur should lose another IC, Rory will be toasted and kicked to the curb.Ami as much as said so last night.Rory's only chance is if one of the Yasur women realizes she is not among the 4 in alliance and sides with him. Also remember last night was only day 16 and 17 out of 39.The merge is a couple of shows away.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 10:17 am
I can't wait for Twila to find out that Julie lied to her!!!!
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Jane_bond
Member
09-18-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 10:26 am
Has everyone forgotten how Yasur won Immunity this week? It was because of Scout's and Rory's exceptionally good hand-eye coordination. Just because the woman cannot run and jump well does not mean that she is a physical liability. And, I'd like to echo the previous poster who pointed out that Survivor is only partly about surviving physical challenges - a great deal is about having excellent interpersonal skills, understanding and manipulating personal dynamics, having superior mental skills... It's true: if you lose challenges and get voted out you can't win and winning those challenges often involves a large physical movement component at which Scout is not good player, but if you have the people skills, the gaming skills and the mental skills, you can, as Scout has, manage to evade being voted out and survive to come close enough to the end for a legitimate shot at winning. I am absolutely positive that her fellow tribemembers and alliance members view Scout's wisdom and soothing nature as something very valuable, someone that can propel them closer to final four and then, when the challenges become very physically stressful, who can be surpassed. Don't count Scout out just because she isn't a physical threat.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 10:32 am
I agree Scout stepped up in the IC challenge......and I am sure her team told her to drop out in the RC.....the strategy worked. I like her spirit and soul and think she goes far.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 10:47 am
The same thing happened on Survivor All Stars with the competition where they had to cross the beams (the infamous one where Sue got bent out of shape because Richard rubbed all over her) - several of the members of Boston Robb's team deliberately took themselves out because he was so adept at crossing the beams.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 11:16 am
I agree with much that is being posted and wouldn't be surprised if Scout actually wins it all. I'm just disappointed in the direction that the Survivor series has gone since the first two seasons. Prior to All-Stars I would read all the spoilers and many of the other survivor boards, but now I don't even read all the Survivor threads here and often forget to watch the show until the weekend. They might as well eliminate the island and the tribes and call it Big Brother, except Big Brother does it better. Anyone know when the next Eco Challenge airs?
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 11:36 am
I watched John on the internet show today. He said that the idea for the slower players to dump the coconut was actually his and that, after the first time, the ONLY members of his tribe to do the obstacle course were himself and Julie. He asked his tribe members to sit out right from the beginning but his tribe members wanted to try it.The contest went on for a long, long time and, in every attempt except the first runthrough, only he and Julie did it on his side. Everyone else dumped. He feels that their slowness on the first go through, particularly Clay's , cost them the reward. SO Scout was just picking up on his idea. He thought she was smart to pick up on it and wished his tribe had done so when he first suggested it.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 12:55 pm
I agree that Scout did decent with the sling shot--it was Rory who seemed to be way above the rest though. I disagree with being allowed to not participate in the challenge--to get out of it. That throws out the whole idea of team challenge. All they have to do is let the best player do that specific task. Notice that in the sling shot everyone had to do it? And the balance beam stuff--no one has gotten to walk back and have the best team mate do it? I agree Scout has other qualities the team may find useful--however those qualities proved no value if you lose IC every time. And with their voting idea (get rid of both guys first), that is exactly where they would have been. To really make it a true tribe challenge, each of the challenges should make each of the players participate--about 75% of them are that way--make it 100%. Other things can be done to overcome weaknesses--and that kind of the thing is a true mark of team work and planning skill.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 1:49 pm
Who is Clay? Am I missing somebody?
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:00 pm
Remember, a member can not sit out more than one challenge in a row. The thing about Scout is that there have been enough times that she could do an easy chore or like last night actually contribute, that it just seems like she sits out all the time. Since she participated in the last two, she can be the next one to sit out if the occasion arises. It has worked well for her. I think the real thing with the women is that they are afraid to break up the women's alliance because then they are not sure of who to trust. They did it once and it has cause some doubt. Lisa just really pissed off Ami and she had enough clout to pull it off, but I think they are afraid to do it again. It is coming close to the merge, if history holds, so Rory might find himself gone this week if they lose the IC. The men have pretty much stuck to their plan to vote off the young threatening guys. And John did himself no good "napping" when the others were working. Fair or not, it just hurts you. I think they feel they can take care of the women after the merge. I, too, would like to see Twila find out Julie lied to her. Not sure just how this can happen though. Even if she asked Sarge outright, would she believe him? The game will really get interesting when the merge happens, if it happens. It has been pretty dull up to now.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2004 - 2:13 pm
Kep said >>>>Well, the ladies would be smart to keep her for the alliance after the merge. There is more to this game beside being strong. So far, Scout hasn't been that much of a liability.<<<< She is a huge liability. Rory is helping them tremendously now but had the kept Dolly they probably would have won the pig comp because Eliza would have been working the gate. They are missing the opportunity for another to take a lesser role who may not be skilled in a particular challenge. They have voted off strong players in favor of keeping her. They would enter the merge, probably stronger had they kept the younger ones.
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