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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
P.S. Thanks once again, Raen and everyone, for spoiling!!! I can't wait till the end of this month, when I won't be working till 10pm!

Peeper
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06-14-2004

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tonights show was really disappointing and apprentice was not much better.


Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not sure what Chris was thinking unless he thinks he can plant enough bad feelings among the women to break their alliance. If he can do that, he will have a better chance against the women in the individual competitions than against Sarge and if Sarge does not realize that Chris voted for him, if Chris should make it to the end, he will definitely have Sarge's vote. Is that what he meant by saying, "This is a vote for you not against you?"

I think we missed some plotting.

Wallflower
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08-26-2004

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Exactly, Costa. When Sarge started blabbing about everyone elses strategies, I was screaming "shut the f*** up! You're hanging yourself!" He must have already known he was going.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why did Chris vote for Sarge???????

ooohhh I just read Allie's thoughts, I think you are right but the girls had the numbers to vote off Sarge anyway so he didnt need to turn the knife

Annie
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11-10-2004

Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
}On the voting: why were sarge's vote and Chad's vote different? Those two were solid in an alliance, or so I thought. BTW, I don't like puzzle challenges, *yawn*. Chris is weak, and that's not going to get him far. He's not good in challenges, and his mouth runs faster than his brain. I agree Wallflower, there was WAY too much info sharing at tribal council. Jeff said it best in the end "IMMUNITY IS THE WILD CARD".

Danas15146
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03-31-2004

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 4:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
stupid editting got my hopes up! I really thought that it would be between Eliza and Scout. I don't care who wins now

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I too am befuddled by last night's tribal counsel. Why would Twila openly talk about how she felt more comfortable with the guys and then vote out Sarge?

What the heck am I missing here?

I think the editor's got a little too editorially happy and left out some very key points, which leaves a lot of us scratching our heads in puzzlement!!!

Carlito
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03-26-2004

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmmmmm. Looks like the women may find themselves in disharmony. Do not think Scout will betray Ami.
Eliza is obviously on her list as are either Julie or Leann once she finds out where she is in the pecking order.

Chris and Chad need to hook up with scout and Twila as a voting block and see if they can change things.That would have them tied at 4 each and need the tie breaker. I dont completely trust scout though.

Potted_plant
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08-29-2001

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would like to see more stategy talk & less of the competitions, which I find boring. I hate not knowing how they come up with their vote.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed part of the show. What happened with the pig?

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I had wondered what was missing this season and last night I think it finally sunk in...there's not as much drama with all the strategy talk.

Too bad for Sarge...He let Chris control the game too early.

The Black Widow eats her mate...these girls eat chicken wings. Way to go, Ami! Eat the bone, why don't ya!?!

Poor Eliza...

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 12, 2004 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Catfat - nothing happened with the pig. They were told it would be important later and to take good care of it. That's all we heard.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chris stated: (when voting for Sarge)
"This isn't against you, it's 'for' you." What in the world did he mean by that? I too don't get it. The women had enough votes; he's not endearing himself to them.

I'm so upset at these <bad name> women this year. I really believed Twila, but wondered why Julie didn't defend herself at the tribal council meeting. Seems it was because she knew the outcome of that night's vote. What a sham these women are for real females. I'm ashamed of my own gender.

I've lost the tiny bit of interest I had in Survivor this season. They took away my eye candy; then I was rooting for Rory (loved the calm down letter from his wife) and now they are picking off the men one by one. Where's the intrigue? BLEH!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have lost interest also. If I want to see a bunch of back stabbing, 2 faced women, I just go to work.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ha Pamy!! I snorted tea out of my nose!! OMG too funny!! It makes me want to ask where you WORK!!

OT - Has anyone ever listened to the Chris Rock CD where he talks about how women are CONVINCED that other women at work are conspiring against them at work and the girls says "She's trying to ruin me!", and then his punchline is something like "But your a grocery bagger! What does she do? Steal your bags?"

I like Chris Rock, I laugh every time I listen to him.


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Eeyore..I think it is like that wherever ya work, ya get a bunch of women together and it will happen, esp when ya all start pms-ing at the same time.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
A couple of things bothered me this past ep:

1. None of the women EXCEPT FOR Eliza packed their bags? OMG, how freakin' arrogant is that???

2. None of the men voted togerther? Every single man voted for a different person? WTF? That was one strong alliance, NOT!

I'm really confused this season. I don't get Twila (is she "with" the guys or the gals?). I don't get Scout (why is she so upset with Eliza?). I don't get Eliza (what a spoiled brat).

Actually, you know? I think my problem is I really don't like ANY of these people. I could care less who wins. Let's see, who's left? Chris? Ick. Chad? Nah, I don't really like his 'tude. Leanne and Julie? They're OK. But Leanne probably couldn't win another challenge if her life depended on it. (She won the reward challenge mostly cause she's a bit UTR than the others. She won by default, not cause of brain or brawn.) Twila? She's spunky, but... I don't really like her attitude and the way she talks about people. I don't like Scout, haven't from the first day (when she was whining about wanting to stop midway to their beach). Eliza? Nah. Ami? I think her ego is gonna be her downfall. She's loving this queen bee thing and I think she's gonna go down fairly soon. They all whine way too much!

Carlito
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03-26-2004

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Very well stated Costa! Everything you said is so true and from the other posts no one cares who wins this year. Who is really out playing whom?
From day 1 its been the all female alliance to the end or the young men vs the older men.Blah!!!
However,i will admit i do love the shows concept and watch hoping against hope that someone will emerge as someone we can love or love to hate.lol!

One last comment on the ladies being catty. I also see it at work daily and to quote Cedric the entertainer,I am a "gr*** a** man"...lol, it amazes me how mean women are to each other in the workplace. How soon we forget when it wasnt that easy for women or minorities to work in professional capacities as it is today.Shame! Shame!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Saturday, November 13, 2004 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
While I agree to some extent about the women being catty, even if their "cattiness" is primarily in conversations with the camera and not with each other, we forget that when the men voted off the young guys one by one as a potential threat down the line--which it now looks like they won't even have--they were every bit as bad. Except then we called it strategy. At least when the women vote off the other women, it looks to me like they are doing it for "real" reasons [like they aren't working or they are working against group cohesion]. The same, IMHO, cannot be said for the men, who simply voted off some of the young guys because they thought they wouldn't be able to beat them in individual challenges.

Jeff warned them about their "strategy" and it turns out he was right: it is simply not a good thing to divide a team based on generations; the women, who have respected Twila and Scout throughout the competition, despite Scouts physical limitations, have been stronger because they avoided unnecessary or senseless cannibalism. JMHO.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tish, in a lot of ways I agree. BUT,
"the women, who have respected Twila and Scout throughout the competition, despite Scouts physical limitations, have been stronger because they avoided unnecessary or senseless cannibalism. "

Twila has been absent (gone over on the guy's team) while Rory brought his strength over to the ladies team, who were more than happy to utilize (then dump him).

<RA> I can appreciate that Chris knew Sarge could beat him in future immunities, but then - why not vote for Eliza or Julie? The women had enough votes to string Sarge up already. Why did Chris need to do the old 'poke 'em of the machete in the back'? I agree & hope, Chris' maneuverings are going to send him packing, why would the women trust<RA>?

I would truly like to see Chad win some kind of immunity. Can you believe, Chad was born 2 months after I graduated from high school?

Jeepers, I feel like an ol' fart! Will I get modded for using the f' word?


Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
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Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that the "mangonging" makes the tribal council predictable (despite the editor's efforts) -- but who wants to bet the men will win an immunity challenge here pretty quick and force the woman to turn on themselves. I'm actually looking forward to the "after men" episodes -- the ladies' pecking order is quite up in the air, so that will make it interesting (for me).

BTW -- I work with some wonderful women! We get together on a regular basis outside of school and always have a blast together. There is little to no "cattiness" -- maybe it's because we all have to band together to deal with the students every day! LOL Whatever it is, I'm very fortunate!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, November 14, 2004 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Biscottiii - Fart isn't actually the "F" word the moderators object to! LOL!!

Carlito
Member

03-26-2004

Monday, November 15, 2004 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Teach you are fortunate to work with women who are not catty and mean to each other. It gives me and others hope(wink).
Now that the ads are alluding to a breakdown in the female alliance,it will be interesting to see if Ami can survive or will they continue to get rid of the men then Ami or Eliza?

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Monday, November 15, 2004 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They would be smart to get rid of Ami and Scout first. Ami because she is an alpha-female that wins challenges, and Scout because she is the sympathy vote in the final two. Basically two people you do NOT want to be against later in the game. JMHO.