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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxip, I think Jan meant Chad (the man with the artificial leg).

John talked a lot during tribal counsel about napping. I think he had gotten wind of the fact that he was being voted out, and the reason was his naps.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who is the other girl that is gay? I can't remember

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Scouts SO...and they make a good couple...if you're into that.

My wife and I wondered the same thing...we thought that maybe they poured steaming water thorugh it to make the coffee...

Ami doesn't know what she wants...but, unfortunately for Eliza...that speaks disaster for everybody else...



Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is Ami the other gay girl?

Producerchic
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06-29-2004

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
yes Pamy she is

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks...I had told someone that today then afterwards thuouhgt..oh wait it was Twila! LOL

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Trying to figure here:
Do you think Twila is dumb enough to rely on Julie? That she would believe Julie's lies over Sarge? Or seriously try to connive vote-wise?

- In Ep 3, Julie voted against Twila (instead, Mia was voted off). And Twila was never part of the young women's pact.

- Twila is a old work horse. She has said several times in the past that she's more comfortable with men. She and Sarge/ol' Guys Team have a LOT in common (work ethics, loyalty beliefs, AGE, chubby figures). He clearly approves of her; they must all like the fact that she's finding food and feeding them!!!

- Now Julie is cute & young, flashing her buns. (Looks like next week Sarge is going to poke some fun, flashing his buns.) I will admit Julie has been working hard, she knows she's on the chopping block.

But, I just don't see Twila biting Julie's bait, hook line and sinker. I think she would be more inclined to believe in Sarge. Even though Twila is female, she FITS the guy's original plan for the final 4. Bubba is now gone (leaving a spot) and Rory was never part of the plan.

- With all the 'John vs. Julie boot' not once did anyone even mention Twila's name. I bet she's told Sarge how she almost got the boot herself and would be loyal. I think the guys are being honest with her.

Any thoughts someone?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And annuddar thang!

John (Mechanical Bull Operator/Model) was kind of stupid! IMO

- He was previously next-intended in the 'Guys Eating Their Young' lineup, instead he was saved by the tribe mixing.

- John sat around napping, not producing while eating plenty.

- Was dumb enough to REMIND everyone that when he joked at TC about Twila needing to take a nap.

- Plus earlier, when he went to convince Twila & Julie to vote Chad off, he never even offered to carry a twig. Just stood talking as they worked, even when Julie walked off and Twila said something like "Honey, are you sure that's not too much of a load?"
(IMO, it had already been DECIDED, before he talked to Tw/Ju,
that John was doing the torch walk.) spoken

I wonder if maybe he's been tossed from riding the Bull too many times.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, October 29, 2004 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It sure looked like Twila was buying what Julie said about the guys telling her she would be in the final 4. My gut tells me that Twila has the cojones to ask Sarge about it, and if she does and finds out that it was a lie...there may be another earthquake on the island!

Jan
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08-01-2000

Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Watching the internet interview with John was really enlightening and answered a lot of these questions you are asking (IMHO)

(and yes, Roxip and Hukd, I did mean Chad. Sorry about that:-( )

John came across as very, very knowledgeable about the game and very intelligent. He says lots of stuff was not shown. eg he had a two man alliance with Bubba and fully believes if Bubba had not gone to the other tribe (or if John had) John would still be there.

John said he never napped until the last three days. At that point he knew he was gone. There was no question about that in his mind.(He thinks that Chad/Chris conversation re John vs Julie as the evictee was a clip from the first day the girls came to the tribe). At that point he started to nap because what was the point of working. He claims that , before that point, he did more work than Chad.

John also claims that the real total brains behind the whole thing in the men's tribe is CHRIS...not Sarge. Sarge is the pawn. John wants Chris to win because Chris really pulled one over on John. John was convinced that he and Chris and Twila had an alliance. They met at least three times (not just the once shown). He was really surprised to see the clip where Chris was talking to Chad that John, not Julie, should be evicted but it just increased his respect for Chris. He has no hard feelings, it's just a game, and he really gave all credit to Chris for playing John to the max.

(I hope I got all the names right this time??)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have always thought Chris was the brains since the first ep when he said he started playing the game the day they stepped foot on the beach.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me too. Pamy. I clearly remember one of the first episodes when Sarge was going to evict one of the younger guys and went for a walk with Chris. When they came back , it was another guy who went (at Chris's suggestion). At that point, I figured that Sarge was the front man and Chris was the power behind the throne

PS John said in half an hour of trying, Chris never made it over the balance beam on that first show. It was so bad that John would not be surprised if it was part of Chris's game playing to make him seem totally a non threat!

Upstate
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01-16-2004

Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
it doesn't surprise me that scout didn't come up with the idea to dump the water and go back to the end of the line. to me it seems like she doesn't have much to say that is worth listening to.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, October 30, 2004 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jan ~ Watching the internet interview with John was really enlightening and answered a lot of these questions you are asking (IMHO)

Wow! TY that helps! Where bouts did you find that internet interview, so that I can scope it out each week too? That does make sense. I should remember the editing makes all the difference.

I always figured Chris was the mastermind too - from when Sarge wanted to boot Rory, and Chris said "no, we need to stick to the plan". So they dumped one of the hard working (maybe the FBI guy that Sarge liked working with) young instead.

Cousin_jake
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07-04-2002

Monday, November 01, 2004 - 3:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Biscottiii - it's on the CBS home site. It's from the live internet show broadcast Thursdays and Fridays at 2 pm hosted by Richard Hatch. They post the shows afterward so you can watch them anytime.

Myga
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06-29-2004

Monday, November 01, 2004 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have tried all the stuff I know to try to find those shows u spoke of Cousin Jake and I can't get there. Can u post the site for me please, Jake, thanks in advance.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, November 01, 2004 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Myga, if you go the address below and click where it says "watch past episodes here", a screen pops up and shows the videos of the live internet broadcasts. At least, that is what happens on my computer. I hope it can work for you too.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor9/video/s_live/index.shtml

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, November 01, 2004 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
TY Folks, I will check them out further. I usually avoid Richard Hatch, so hadn't even gone there.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Watching2 stated:
"I agree that Scout needs to be voted out. She brings nothing to the physical challenges. She's always volunteering to sit out and picks the easiest part of the challenge to do - like putting together the tiki. I looked away for a min. and only heard Jeff say what she did, and while it was a good idea for that challenge, I think she should have been gone long before anyone else was voted off since she brings so little to the challenges for the tribe."

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I agree with you Watching2. I'm curious as to why it was fair for Scout to dump the water? Shouldn't the whole tribe have to play the game. I don't think it's fair for Scout to be excused from the challenges and make it through to the end. She should have to play the game or get voted off. I don't want her to win like this.

I read that it wasn't her idea, but couldn't find the post that said whose idea it was. Whose was it?

Seems life Jeff P. set up Sarge and Scout to be the Mom and Pop this season. Are they untouchable? Why are they never being challenged when it comes to eviction time?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know who asked, but they were using coffee pods. They are usually designed for one-cup pots, or for the 2-4 cup pots you get in hotel rooms. They are used just like a regular filter with loose coffee... you just put the pod in the basket instead of a filter and coffee, and brew as usual. I can't remember, but I think they were using Folgers coffee pods (who does make a single serving pod). When I travel, most of the hotels in which I stay offer in-room coffee using the 4-cup Starbucks pods.

Not that I know anything about coffee! <wink>

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 12:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cricket ~ I'm curious as to why it was fair for Scout to dump the water? Shouldn't the whole tribe have to play the game.

Actually, I'm not sure whether fair play goes into it or not, I think technically the teams get away with it. I remember in the Allstars Game (where Hatch did the rubbing on Susan) Rob had been able to race around the planks (understandable, since he was a construction worker and likely has great balance techniques). After seeing him in action, the rest of his team was just jumping into the water at the beginning of their first plank.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 1:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Costacat ~ I don't know who asked, but they were using coffee pods.

When I travel, most of the hotels in which I stay offer in-room coffee using the 4-cup Starbucks pods.


I noticed those funny looking little thangs you call pods. Granted, I'm from Seattle where we can't survive w/o our lattes. Perhaps I would think differently (in their shoes) but I like my Starbucks Coarse-Ground and poured from a French Press!

We do 'pods' in the color Green, like in StirFry. hehehe

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cricket, on the internet show, John K. said that it was actually his idea to dump the water, and after the first round, everyone on his team was doing it, too, and only he and Julie actually competed. He said that the challenge really took about a half an hour, so we saw very little of it. He seemed a little put out that they only showed Scout dumping her cup and didn't show the people on his team do it.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL...I thought they were coconut shells. Here in Texas we drink our coffee (Starbucks and otherwise) out of cups.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Costa, I was the one asking awhile ago about the coffee. I did see that they were using (what I now know the name of!) pods. I was wondering how they got hot water...did Jeff sneak them a long extension cord or are they just running water through that they heated up over the fire?

Pods are cool!

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Scout has an artificial knee. It may be the reason they keep her out of certain competitions.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey Bis! I know what you mean about the pods. I always *always* bring my own ground Starbucks with me when I travel, along with filters. I know I can get a coffee pot, and must have my Gold Coast blend!

Hey Hukd! Yup, them thar thangs is pods. Not the green things that Bis puts in stir fry (altho them thangs is good, too). Starbucks used to sell 'em (espresso pods, anyways). They can be handy and quick.

But yeah, there is that issue of how they got the coffee made! I don't know what kind of coffee pots they used (I didn't pay attention).

Starbucks... <sigh> I've worked 11 hours at the office already today. About to leave and go home to work another coupla hours. I could use a cuppa Starbucks right about now, but don't wanna go walk across the street to get one!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, November 03, 2004 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Biscotti and everyone for the explanations. I'd forgotten about the All Stars challenges. I guess anything goes on Survivor.

I always thought the voting had a little to do with how good people were at challenges, ie. help win immunity. With this kind of playing, I guess it doesn't matter.