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Padivius
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08-21-2003

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, Leann is not gay.

My bad about the Detroit Red Wings logo up there. I was thinking Calgary (though I well know what the Calgary logo looks like).

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not that there's anything wrong with that :-)

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
no, not at all

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy,come to chat and entertain me.

Wargod
Moderator

07-16-2001

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well crap, lol. I noticed at 9:15 the vcr wasn't recording, pointed it out to Darren and said no big deal cuz we know Chris is going home tonight, lol.

Allietex
Member

08-16-2002

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This has to rate as one of the best TC in Survivor history. I love it when someone who is so sure they are safe that they act smug gets voted off. The only thing that would have made it better would have been for it to have been Ami. I respect her game play, but she annoys me with her smugness.

I was shocked at how she and Lee Ann treated Scout and Twila tonight. That was just so dumb! Why did they tell Scout they did not consider her one of the final four. Lord, it was just daring her to break ranks, and then telling Twila they did not trust her. Wow, were they ever cocky! I guess it just never occured to them that Scout and Twila might team up with Eliza because of the earlier bad feelings between them and Eliza.

I wondered when Chris was going to realize that Eliza could be an ally. It was so obvious because she was very aware of how shakey her position was with the other women. They had already let her know that she was the first woman to go. She was ripe for the plucking.

It really surprised me that Twila was the one to point it out to Chris and the way she did it was brilliant. Instead of just coming out and telling him what to do, she led him into figuring it out for himself. You could just see the lightbulb go on over his head.



Tashakinz
Member

11-13-2002

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is purely speculation but I think Scout was the one who put the bug in Twila's ear to talk to Chris about pulling in Eliza. Once Scout realized that Leann didn't see her as a part of the final four - she made a point of figuring out a way to change the power structure. Thoughts?

Lexie_girl
Member

07-30-2004

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tasha, I agree 100% with you. That was a "game-changing" moment.

Kappy
Member

06-29-2002

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Loved it, loved it, loved it tonight! Chris has always been one of my least favorites of the males but I honestly didn't feel like watching a final six of all females either. My two faves, (Sarge and Chad) are both out of it so to heck with who I liked in the beginning! Loved the looks on the faces of the 3 guys as this all went down!

As for Twila, I could not stand her in the beginning but after the first change up with teams and seeing how she interacted with the men, I began to realize that she just wasn't connecting with the "beauties" and it brought out a completely different side of her. For the past month, I've grown to like Twila more and more.

As for the women's alliance, they really can't complain about anyone turning on it since they were more then willing to vote Eliza before a male.

And Chris, ayee, I could not stand this guy from the get go and now I'm rooting for him right behind Twila - go figure! But isn't that why we love Survivor?

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that this had to be one of the best Survivor shows ever! And who would have thought it. Finally, some smart players who don’t just meekly let the game play out against them, but instead manoeuvre and try to change things up. The surprise at Tribal Council was wonderful and I really enjoyed watching Sarge and Chad’s expressions when they realized what was happening. An all around great show!

Karen
Member

09-07-2004

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was great. I half spoiled myself last night -- I checked here and learned that it was Leanne to go, but that's all I knew. I didn't know who won immunity, anything about the challenges, nothing except Leanne. So the whole show I'm watching trying to figure out just how the heck they twisted it to that outcome. The look on Ami's face was brilliant. And Eliza's little smirk... I don't like her, but it was nice to see her put the other B's in their places.

ITA about Twila, Kappy. Once you get her away from the other women and you start to see the real her, what she's all about, I've been rooting for her more and more, too.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Allietex, you said it all. But the GOOD thing about NOT having Ami go first, is that we get to watch her STEW in her own regret in the next show. I will take pleasure in it.

I'm crossing my fingers that they edit the show to show us the things we WANT to see - like Ami dealing with the shock that she's not Queen Bee anymore.

I wonder....does everyone think the episodes are all finished, and just waiting to be aired....or does anyone think they produce week to week, based on some of the public reaction? Or at least put in more footage of storylines the public is responding better to.


Ketchuplover - LOL!!! Ahhhh Seinfeld.

Padivius
Member

08-21-2003

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re: Chris

Kappy, I think it's funny that you can't stand him. I, on the other hand, have been rooting for him since the first week when he couldn't do that immunity challenge. Everything he says is so appropriate, it's like he's readin my mind. In fact, he is a lot like me, and he reminds me of myself and of my best friend.

I hope he's in this to the end.

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It has been stated before that Chris purposefully threw that first immunity challenge, in order to appear weak (and non-threatening). He then was the mastermind behind the "fat-5" alliance but let it seem that Sarge was in control. He's been in control of what happened to each of the men - and after the merge, he did what he could to protect the other guys - but still kept himself safe until the last - and now (finally) got Twyla to realize that she had no chance with the girls (Scout knew it, but couldn't make the switch without Twyla's support).

Yee haw! We've got a game, again.

'squeek'

Cousin_jake
Member

07-04-2002

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hopefully the four who voted out Leanne will stick to it and vote out Ami next if she doesn't win immunity. She is definetly the biggest threat to win immunities one after another. If she does win again, they should vote out Julie. Finally thery're playing the game!

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think they'll vote out Julie so quickly. Julie went over to the boys' side with Twila, and maybe she is tighter with them.

Could they ditch Eliza this week and still have numbers? Could they have just used her for this one week?

Catfat
Member

02-27-2002

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why would they ditch Eliza so soon? She will be completely faithful to the three who saved her this week. She knew she was a goner, look how many times her name came up. The four who voted together were ostracized by the "in crowd" clustered around the great and wonderful Amy.
I'm am so glad she got her comeuppance.

Annie
Member

11-10-2004

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm curious why sexual preference is important. I'm straight btw. There are no questions whether Chris is or not, or whether Sarge is or not. Why is it a big issue for women when they are winning? It's about "outwit, outplay, outlast", not out of the closet. That being said, I was glad to see LeeAnn go and hope Ami is next. I'm not totally convinced Chris is smart enough to win this. The best thing he has going for himself, is sitting back and watching the women be catty, and self-destruct. This season started out boring, but it was great to see the "game changing moment"!!

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the question came up because the relationship of girl who came to see Leanne was seemingly deliberately left out. I know I didn't wonder about Chris because his fiance came, and they INTRODUCED her as his fiance. Every other person who was there for the family visit, was introduced along with their "relation" to the contestant. EXCEPT Leanne's "visitor". They only said her name. When she was sitting down to the computer JP said something to the effect of "Let's see if we can get Terri online". Or something like that.

Speaking for myself, I don't think a person is gay because they are outplaying the men. AND, I had never HAD the thought until her "visitor" was announced without a relation. It only stuck out, because she was the only one.

Last thing, it was never a "big issue". I don't think ANYONE'S posts gave that impression.



Producerchic
Member

06-29-2004

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought they introduced Teri as Leann's best friend... I watched the show live, but have it on tape at home... I'll have to check it out...

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Friday, November 26, 2004 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
PC - I just rewatched it. You're right, it said on screen best friend. Good pick up on that one. I HONESTLY missed it, it was so fast. I'm more of a listener than a watcher too. All others Probst said out loud who they were. With Ami, when she only said the name, he asked who she was to Ami. I guess that must have been the split second that my eyes were off the TV.

MY BAD (with Southern Accent.) Much ado about nothing.



Oh.....if anyone's looking for me.....I'll just be over in that corner over there, chewing on my foot.

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Eeyore! Take it easy on that foot.

I think we all pretty much agree that whether or not the person is gay or straight is largely irrelevant. I think that people are just naturally curious about the player's relationship with their visitor.

Buggles
Member

09-07-2002

Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that this maneuver was great entertainment (& needed) but I do feel a little bad for LeAnn. It was her idea to let Chris stay..then he knifed her.

I think women will be even more leery of 'letting guys in' in the future. I dont blame Chris... it was a good move for him.. but future guys will probably be harmed by this.

Great show though

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That is a very good point. The only reason this move worked was that the women, including Ami, liked Chris enough that they were willing to give him a chance.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Saturday, November 27, 2004 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think he knifed LeeAnn, he was not in an alliance with her. He didn't owe her anything. Had it been Julie, then maybe, but not LeeAnn.