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Alaginger
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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Let's go ahead and start this thread with Jeff's Blog:
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“Sorry bout smushing the bananas.”
Naonka, Survivor: Nicaragua 2010

Okay I need to preface this blog by saying that I’m very frustrated at the moment and therefore may very well write things that I later regret. Which really means that I’ve already considered if I’ll regret the comments and have decided I don’t care if I do regret them, which means I really don’t/won’t regret them at all. I know what I’m writing it and my intention is clear.

The two big reasons for my frustration:

1. Naonka
2. Marty

Naonka wins out because my frustration with Naonka touches on humanity. I was so disturbed by what I saw and heard in this episode that I could barely write this blog.

My frustration with Marty is much less emotional. It’s based on his out of control arrogance and ego and is probably just me talking to myself. That’s usually how it goes, right? It’s not ever about the “other person”… it’s always about you. That’s what my shrink says anyway. Yes, I’ve already emailed her for an appointment.

JIMMY JOHNSON
Before we get to my frustration, let me share my sadness that Jimmy Johnson is gone.

I’m probably just star struck but I really enjoyed having him around. I think he had a big target on his back from day one. He’s just too popular, too successful and too financially well off to really have a shot at winning this game. But he was a true Survivor fan. He applied three times to be on the show and I am so happy he hung in there and ended up on the show. It was a real treat for all of us and I’m guessing a real treat for a lot of fans as well.

I stand by my earlier statements that in voting him out the older tribe voted out a proven leader and the truth is they don’t have anybody to take his place. It damn sure ain’t you, Marty. I know you are very successful in your normal life, but on Survivor, the only thing you’re capable of leading are the lambs to the slaughter. Your tribemates are the lambs and the game is the slaughter.

Marty doesn’t understand Survivor 1/10th as well as he thinks he does. Never has. I’m not saying Marty can’t or won’t make it to the end, lots of people make it to the end, never fully understanding the game they are playing. But the only way Marty wins is if he takes a jury full of his older tribemates with him and at the rate they are losing challenges, that seems unlikely. (I warned you I was in a mood.)

Here’s the latest proof that Marty is being driven solely by ego and not the amazing game play as he keeps professing:

Marty: (To Dan) “Can you imagine what your friends in Manhattan are gonna say when you say you blindsided Jimmy Johnson.”

Yeah, I think they’re gonna say you missed the forest for the trees. You were conspiring about who to vote out with the one guy you should have voted out! Dan is still in this game. Now that’s amazing game play.

HAS ANYBODY SEEN JILL?
Jill is also disappointing me. Maybe it’s just a theme today: Disappointment. Could it be that I am just disappointed in myself? Maybe. I’m having a good hair day, so it can’t be that. I just had a big breakfast, so it’s not low blood sugar. Who knows.

Anyway, Jill is disappointing me because Jill should be doing much better. Jill understands the game as well or better than anybody on her tribe but she is too weak to take over.

First she gave the idol to Marty and now she’s giving her vote to Marty. She says “whatever” but I don’t buy it. I don’t know what is going on but she’s much tougher and stronger than she is showing.

I had such high hopes for her being a leader. She should have the idol in her pocket, nobody should know about it and she and Jimmy Johnson should be leading this tribe. Did you see how much fun they were having when they were all fishing together? Jill what are you doing?

Instead you have Marty, Jiimmy T and Tyrone doing the leading. If this is your fantasy Survivor line up, you’re screwed.

Marty, Jimmy T, Tyrone, if you’re mad at me, go back and read the opening paragraph – it’s all about me. This has nothing to do with you. Nadathing.

By the way, Marty, the other people are playing the game. Just because they’re not playing the way you want them to doesn’t mean they’re not playing.

I will give Marty credit for sharing the idol. Normally I’d consider this a monumental mistake, but given the vibe on this tribe, I think he was smart. It makes him look like a bit of a decent guy and nobody on this tribe (except maybe Jane) is smart enough to figure out how to make it work for them…or against Marty anyway. He’s safe for the moment.

SIDE NOTE: HOWLER MONKEYS
The Howler monkeys are everywhere in Nicaragua. They make a very loud “howl,” they sit up in the trees and throw sticks at you.

Jimmy Johnson wasn’t the only one howling back at the monkeys.

After challenges the crew would drive back through the jungle, along a long, winding, bumpy road and you could often hear the monkeys screaming. We’d often pull over just to listen and watch. Sure enough you find yourself trying to speak to them by howling back. Sometimes they responded and you felt like Jane Goodall.

FABIO
Yes I know I keep calling him Jud. Sorry. I’m not living with him 24/7. I didn’t realize how strongly the nickname had attached to him. If he lasts longer I’ll figure it out. But, how can you not dig Fabio…at least a little bit. I love that he wants to be kept around for more than “just being funny.” It’s like the hot girl who says “there is more to me than just my looks.” There probably is, but nobody cares!

Fabio, keep being funny and stop over thinking it. Funny can get you a long way in life, just like being hot. Look at Sarah Silverman… hot and funny = major success.

DAN
“I’m as strong as any of the women.” Uh, no you’re not. I don’t think Dan could beat anybody, including the unnamed “moose” he referenced. Dan, you’re a really charming guy who I like quite a bit but I am amazed you passed our physical. But you did and there you are still in the game and two other people from your tribe are gone. Okay, Wendy was justified. Ah heck, maybe Jimmy J was too.

NAONKA
Okay let’s get to it – the thing that is really bothering me today. It’s you, Naonka. I am so torn over what I saw in last night’s episode.

You KNOCKED DOWN A WOMAN WITH AN ARTIFICIAL LEG! ON PURPOSE! SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE YOU KNEW THAT WOULD THROW HER OFF BALANCE SO YOU COULD STEAL A CLUE THAT SHE FOUND FIRST!

Whew. That felt good. I feel better already.

Here’s my dilemma. Naonka’s argument is simple: “It’s a game. I should use anything to my advantage and I did. Tough beans that Kelly B has an artificial leg. Not my problem.” I can’t argue against that. She’s right. Technically.

But man, my gut turned when I saw the scene. Keep in mind I do not watch tape on location so I had no idea this had gone down and how physical it got between Naonka and Kelly B.

Had I known, I’m not sure if I could have contained myself the next time I saw Naonka. Okay that’s a lie. Of course I could have contained myself, but I certainly would have looked at Naonka a bit differently.

And then to offer an apology to the tribe for “smushing the bananas…” That was the line that hung in the air for me. She made a conscious decision to apologize for the bananas but no mention of Kelly B. (And for the record, those bananas are the equivalent of gold bars on Survivor. She ruined a big chunk of the reward they just won.)

Naonka: “I got hood. Not ghetto.” I don’t even know what that line means, but the inference is that she knows what she did was rough and that makes it even worse.

For me it just comes down to fairness in life. Yes, you can argue that Survivor is a game and anything goes and if you say that I will nod and agree with you. This is just my own point of view. For me, there is a “fairness in life” philosophy that would prohibit me from taking that kind of advantage from someone like Kelly B. I know Kelly can take care of herself but an artificial leg is not a real leg. It does not and cannot do every single thing a real leg can and when it comes to balance Kelly B is at a disadvantage.

I really found it distasteful.

I will offer this, Naonka you should be writing for a television show. You would have to write alone, because nobody would last with you in the same room, but you spit out some of the most honest and compelling comments I’ve ever heard a person say. They’re not always pleasant but they are revealing of your character and that makes them on some level worth exploring.

Make no mistake, you are a villain. I don’t think anybody watching this season would disagree. Doesn’t mean you can’t get to the end, but I would bet my house and everything in my bank account you can’t win. Then again, I thought Sash would be first off. So what do I really know.

This is Survivor folks. Bringing together a cross-section of America. Forcing them to live together, while battling against each other. It can be a nasty game.

See ya Jimmy J. Hope to catch a game with you one day.

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever, pics and transcript for the next episode:
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Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, batten down the hatches, a fierce storm is about to wreak havoc

NaOnka: Put the boxing gloves on, now I'm gonna let you have it.

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Probst: Get ready for hurricane NaOnka.

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Kelly B.: You knocked me over?

NaOnka: Yeah.

Kelly B.: I mean...

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NaOnka: I'm just letting you know.

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NaOnka : Screw your leg, keep it away from the fire. (This was probably said away from Kelly B.)

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 6:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Known spoiler information for Episode 4:
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La de da, de da, de, da....

Per Missyae: This is the episode that Jimmy T. gets the boot, so therefore the older tribe will have to lose the Immunity Challenge. More as details become available.

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Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Here's another little spoiler for next week's show from Missyae:
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" So obviously the idol being found didn't make it in this week so it has to be next week I guess. Either way, Brenda does find it but don't look now, guess who swoops in for the steal???"
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Ginger: My guess would be Naonka

Missyae also says the scene where NaOnka knocked Kelly down to get the clue was actually worse (according to her source) than what we actually got to see.
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ETA --- more explanation from Missyae:
Brenda finds it but Naonka is very close by. When Brenda lifts up the rock, Naonka swoops in and gets the idol so she has the idol, not Brenda. I guess after that Brenda figured she may as well stay close to her and hopefully be able to use the idol if need be. Didn't work out like that though. It's like Marty said, whoever is holding that idol, well, it is their idol. I think it will be interesting watching how it plays out with Marty and Jill with that idol too. Most likely it will come to down, 'it's either me or you, sorry, bye"


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Tribal Council Voting --- Pamy's Favorite Part:
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Jane ("Coach Jimmy"): Coach, you're my fishing buddy, and you catch all the shrimp for me to fish or for you to fish. I'm certainly gonna miss you, and it's been fun.

Jimmy T (Jimmy J, with a football being tossed over the last J): Coach, you said you listened to everybody, but you never really listened to me. I tried to give my input, but it fell on deaf ears. Go long.

Holly ("Coach"): You're a great man, but you're getting tired.

Marty ("J.J."): It was great having you around camp, but somebody's gotta go. I'll catch you on the flipside.

Yve ("Coach"): Like you said, JJ, quality of life, and I didn't want to see you have your fourth most miserable night. See you in Key Largo.

Jimmy J (Daniel): Daniel, old buddy, one of us tonight, the other one next time.

Jill ("Jimmie J"): You're a class act, and I'm going to miss you very much.

Tyrone (Coach): It's a different kind of game, Coach. You're a great guy, but it's time to pass the torch. Thanks for your contribution.

Danny (Jimmy Johnson): <says nothing>

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CBS Misdirection for Episode 4:
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ONE CASTAWAY WORKS HARD TO PROVE HIS WORTH AND TAKE CONTROL OF HIS TRIBE, BUT HIS EFFORTS RUB SOME TRIBEMATES THE WRONG WAY, ON "SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA," WEDNESDAY, OCT. 6

"Pulling the Trigger" - The hunt for the hidden immunity idol widens the rift between two castaways at the La Flor camp, triggering a venomous fight. Meanwhile, a valuable secret is revealed that solidifies a powerful alliance, on SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA, Wednesday, Oct. 6 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.


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Just finished reading all the transcripts by James Barber over at Survivor Sucks from the Insider videos ... things that happened last week that did not get shown on Episode 3. The only two things of real interest to me were:
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Brenda - she came back to camp after Shannon got the boot and was in shock. She had her stuff with her and really thought she was going home.

Jud - He lied to the others about who he voted for and said he voted for NaOnka to get the boot.
Ginger: Knowing that Shannon is gone, the other alliance of 5 is stronger, so why not let the next boot target be on Alina and Kelly B., and possibly Benry. Actually a very smart move on Jud's part.

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Interview with Reality News Online with Jimmy Johnson:
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“I Would Have a Difficult Time Lying” – Reality News Online’s Interview with Survivor: Nicaragua’s Jimmy Johnson
by David Bloomberg -- 10/01/2010

Jimmy Johnson became the first really well-known celebrity to play Survivor. Did he have a plan to account for this? Did he think he would be targeted quickly or kept around because he wasn’t really a threat to win? Or was that all a strategic plan to throw the others off their game? Jimmy discussed these topics as well as his thoughts on Marty and Jimmy T., his overall experience, and much more!

Jimmy Johnson was not your average Survivor contestant. Because of that, he also did not go through the post-elimination press tour in quite the same way as most contestants do. Instead of our usual one-on-one interview, Jimmy’s time was limited to the point that Reality News Online was part of a conference call, meaning I was a bit limited in time and also that this interview will have a different format from our usual ones. Still, I was able to talk to Jimmy and get almost all of my intended questions answered – or somebody else asked something similar enough that it essentially answered my question anyway!

One of the most popular questions asked of Jimmy was why he admitted he was one of the weak players. Jimmy said, “I was just being honest. I was one of the weak players. I’m 67 years old. I think the wear of the game, no sleep, no food, no clean water, probably had more effect of someone my age than someone younger. But I thought the weakest player was Daniel. I was just being upfront and honest.”

One reporter asked if admitting this was essentially giving the others permission to vote him out, and Jimmy replied, “They asked who are the weak players. I had said Day 1, let’s keep our team strong for the challenges. I assumed everybody would be upfront and the weak players would be Daniel and myself. I was just being honest. If I had said, “I’m one of the stronger members of the tribe,” they’d have said, “You’re crazy!” But I didn’t think I was the weakest player.”

Indeed, speaking of the weakest player, why didn’t Jimmy point the finger directly at Dan in Tribal Council? “I didn’t think I needed to because everybody pretty well knew that. He volunteered to sit out of the first challenge. There was always concern about his knee. Around camp, he really didn’t do a lot. I’m not trying to trash Daniel, just to be upfront. It had been discussed with some of the other tribe members, but I didn’t realize Dan had an alliance with Marty and Jill.”

Since Jimmy mentioned being honest and upfront, he was asked several times about whether he could actually play Survivor in such a way. He laughed and said, “Evidently not. I really thought when it came to the point, I could form some alliances, but I wanted to get into the game a little ways to see who I could trust and bond with and go the distance with. Had I known Marty was scheming to get me out, I would’ve probably formed an alliance with Yve, Holly, Jane, and Tyrone, and we would have voted Daniel out. But I didn’t realize that was happening. I thought I was safe because I wasn’t a threat.”

I asked Jimmy, since he knew how much of Survivor depended on deceit, if he could have played the game without the honesty. He said, “That’s just not my personality. I would have a difficult time lying and they’d probably know I was lying if I tried to lie. So I said I was going to try to play with some integrity and try to be upfront and honest and not try to win a million dollars.”

So if he was being honest, what about his tribemates? When did he realize that Marty was gunning for him? “When I watched the episode last night, it was a complete surprise to me. I was shocked. Marty and I, I thought, had a good relationship and I thought I had convinced him I was not a threat. I was sincere about it. I didn’t tell the rest of the tribe but I told the producers that my ultimate goal was to have the adventure. But if I ever got to the final three, I was gonna give the money to charity anyway. Evidently, I didn’t do a very good job of convincing Marty.”

So was he surprised to be voted out, or did he know it was coming? This was an especially interesting question for me, since I had suggested in my recap of this week’s show that he probably had known it, given that even those who seemed to be closest to him voted against him.

However, that was incorrect! When asked if he campaigned to stay, he said, “I didn’t because I didn’t feel I needed to. I knew I was going to be a target, but I said that Day 1, every single time we went to Tribal Council. But I thought I’d convinced everyone I wasn’t a threat. I actually don’t think some of the women would’ve voted me out if they hadn’t been convinced to do it.”

One reporter wondered how he could have no awareness of alliances when even Wendy, who’d been voted out in the first week, knew about them! Jimmy said, “I knew Marty and Jill were probably together, but didn’t realize Dan was in with in them. I didn’t think Jimmy T. or Tyrone were in an alliance. I didn’t think there were any strong alliances at that time. It was a surprise to me when I watched it last night.”

But as he had already indicated, Jimmy didn’t enter into any specific alliances himself. “I talked to Jan and Holly and said I wouldn’t vote them out but wasn’t locking in any strong alliance. I would have gotten to that, but I didn’t want to do what Wendy and Holly did by making an alliance and then breaking it the first Tribal Council. I probably should have done it a few days earlier.” Indeed! Jimmy commented on this topic further, saying, “I thought eventually I’d have had to form alliances. Looking back, I should have formed an alliance before Tribal Council. But I would have eventually had to form an alliance to go very far in the game.”

When asked if he would have done anything different, Jimmy said, “I would’ve formed an alliance and voted Daniel out or Jimmy T. I convinced the rest of the tribe to not vote Jimmy T. out the first week because I thought he could help with physical challenges.”

Speaking of Jimmy T., I wondered, “How do you react to Jimmy T.’s claim that you were threatened by his supposed natural leadership skills?” Jimmy laughed and replied, “I was amused. I think most everybody on the tribe was amused. [As mentioned earlier,] there were a lot who wanted to vote him out the first Tribal Council.”

Besides his plan to eventually create alliances, what else was he doing strategically? For example, when he told his tribemates that he couldn’t win, was he being truthful or playing the game? “That was the only way I could stay on – to convince them I couldn’t’ win. Most everybody I talked to [before the game] would say I’d be one of the first ones they want to get out of there. I had to convince them I couldn’t win. I really didn’t believe any jury would award me a million dolls. I know if I were on a jury, I wouldn’t.”

I wondered if he thought there was any way he might be able to get his fellow contestants to treat him as just another player, and he replied, “No, I think that would have been naïve on my part. The biggest thing I tried to do was instill some trust between us. I wanted them to believe what I was saying. I told them I wasn’t going to lie to them. I was honest when I said I would love to see one of them win a million dollars. Some didn’t believe that.”

So why did he so quickly jump into a leadership role, especially with people like Marty and Jimmy T. on the tribe? “I got thrown into the role. I told them upfront I didn’t want to be the leader, I just wanted to enjoy the adventure. Then they got to arguing about making some decisions and came to me. So I reluctantly went into that role. In years past, someone in that role is usually the guy voted out, so I didn’t want that role.”

Does he think he would have done better if the tribes had been mixed instead of separated by age? “I really don’t know. I don’t know if the younger group would have considered me a threat or not. That was my downfall, my strategy with celebrity status was that I was going to have to do something to offset that. I thought I could convince them I was not a threat, but I didn’t do a very good job of convincing Marty.”

One (kind of clueless, if you ask me) reporter wondered if there was any specific previous contestant on whom Jimmy tried to model his game. Jimmy stated the obvious, noting, “I couldn’t pattern my game because there hadn’t been any celebrities on the game before.” He continued, “Gary Hogeboom [was on], but many people didn’t know him. He never said what he did. I couldn’t pattern my game after anybody.”

What about the overall experience? That is, after all, what he was seeking. Was it more difficult than he expected? “You really can’t get the full impact of how difficult it is. There’s really not a lot of footage of the pouring-down rain, you’re laying on bare bamboo, shivering at night. You’re dehydrated and you’re tired. Watching it on television, it’s such beautiful photography, you don’t realize how difficult it is.”

What was the biggest wake-up call for him out there? “The first night was the most difficult of all of them. I didn’t expect it to be cold. I was soaking wet, it was a downpour of rain all night long, lying on hard bamboo just shivering. I didn’t have any idea what time it was. I was just saying I hope that sun comes up soon. The second night was a little better. By the third night, I got a few hours of sleep.”

How else was he affected? Would he do it again? “No, I don’t want to do it again. I love the show but I don’t think physically I’m up for it. I started at 200 pounds and got to a little over 180 in that short period of time. I’m back to about 193 pounds now. Next time I need to lose weight, I’m not going on Survivor!”

So did he get the adventure he was seeking? “I enjoyed the adventure, though I can’t say I enjoyed all the aspects of it.”

What about now? Is he enjoying seeing it on TV? “Oh yeah, I’ve always loved the show and love it even more knowing how difficult it really is out there.” What does he love so much about the show? “I love the outdoors. I live on the beach. I love the atmosphere. I like to fish and to scuba drive. I did some hunting. I love being out in nature. That’s a big part of the show. Having done the show, I don’t think I’m going to be pitching a tent on the beach anytime soon.”

So there we have it! A bit different of an interview from what we’re used to, but we still got most of the answers we were seeking.

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There has been a link to more transcript and pics at Survivor Fever since yesterday, but I don't think they realize yet that it is not working.

Meanwhile, under the challenge section they have these few pics that were televised on Saturday of a blindfold challenge, which should be Episode 4.
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Jill and Marty, blindfolded and together

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NaOnka and I believe Purple Kelly blindfolded
and together.

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following some wooden posts corral of some kind

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and the two teams are fixing to bump

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and they run into each other

Doesn't tell us much....but it's what we have (LOL)

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Ginger, thx for all this great stuff!!! YOU ROCK!urghhh I hate blindfolds!

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Still unable to get any more pics from Survivor Fever.......as is every other spoiling site having the same problem. But, Flowerpower, over at Survivor Blows, took pity on everybody and at least posted the transcript that went with the pics.
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Transcript

Voiceover: Jimmy Johnson used to rule the older tribe...WEDNESDAY.
Holly: I'm hoping somebody is gonna step up.
Voiceover: It's a new struggle for dominance.
Jimmy T: I've coached basketball teams, I can be a leader.
Marty: JT suffers from both paranoia and delusions of grandeur...
Jimmy T (in a confessional): Would you shut up! You wouldn't last a minute in my world!
Voiceover: And, this fiery villain declares war on her own tribe....(NaOnka seen)
NaOnka: They are WEAK, and they are STUPID!
Voiceover: Smart move?
NaOnka: It might just force her to quit the game.
Voiceover: Or, just crazy?
Alina: She's psycho, she tackled a girl with one leg, how sick is that?
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Ginger: So I guess we are starting to see how Jimmy T. pushes his tribe to boot him this week instead of a weaker player like Daniel, or maybe even Yve. Kinda like keeping the tribe sane instead of trying to keep it strong.

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somebody has been able to clear up the challenge image a bit, so you can now see that Benry and Jud are paired up in the far part of the pic.

Also, the couple who runs into Marty and Jill, I said was NaOnka and Purple Kelly....but there are some that think that is Brenda with NaOnka, and some who think it is Alina with NaOnka. Unless you are playing a game somewhere, it really doesn't matter, cause the young tribe wins immunity this week regardless.

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Tuesday, October 05, 2010 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
A picture from the Press Release photos from Episode 4:
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Missyae has told us recently that not only are Jill and Marty in a tight alliance at Espada, but also Yve is in with Marty. She and Marty speak to each other in Spanish when they do not want any of the others to overhear anything they are saying.
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The SOTS (State Of The Spoiling) is up at Survivor Blows done by poster Tribephyl this week, and since there isn't much of anything known about this week's episode, he did some clever graphics and then showed us that Jimmy T. gets the boot.

I thought you might like this graphic.

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