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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 5:29 am
Thanks to Survivor Fever, Pics and transcript from Episode 7. *************************** Transcript: Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...
Ozzy (talking to Cochran): I don't want to go to Redemption but if it's like a do or die situation, I will go.
Coach (praying with Upolu Tribe): Father, we ask for just a rejuvenation of this tribe.
Coach (camera confessional): If there comes a time where Brandon becomes a liability, you've got to put a bullet in somebody's head.
Brandon (praying with Upolu Tribe): Amen. Male: Amen.
Coach (at Immunity Challenge): Just keep going Albert!
Albert (blindfolded in water based challenge): I can't hear you.
Jim: Shouts at Ozzy.
Probst: We're neck and neck right now!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 6:06 am
Went over to Survivor Blows to see if they were talking about the challenge from the pics, and looks like they have it figured out, except for who wins. Each tribe divided into 3 groups of two. Two from each tribe are callers, and at the end, probably puzzle solvers. Calling for Upolu are Coach and Rick. Calling for Savaii are Jim and Cochran. The other 2 groups of two from each tribe, are blindfolded and tethered together and use a rope to go up and down the course, retrieving puzzle bags. Some are in the water and some are on the beach, some are hanging from poles, and I didn't see it, but they said some are between the stations. The blindfolded couples have to go by the voice commands of the callers, and it's hard to hear with both tribes calling, and two callers on each tribe (see the picture above where Albert yells he can't hear them). Coupled together from Savaii are Keith and Whitney, so that means that Dawn is coupled with Ozzy. Coupled together from Savaii are Brandon with Edna, and Albert with Sophie. The puzzle-solving station appears to be up on top of the staged area.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 6:19 am
Jeff Probst interview with Dalton Ross of EW.com regarding Episode 6: ********************** ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Let’s dive into this strength versus loyalty debate that raged at Tribal Council. Fun Fact! Not counting any season in which there were pre-merge tribe swaps or consolidations — because that muddles the picture in terms of where loyalties are — there have actually been only five Survivor seasons (Thailand, Palau, Tocantins, Samoa, Redemption Island) in which one tribe has gone into the merge with more members than the other. And in two of those five instances, the winner actually came from the tribe with the numbers disadvantage. So, I’ll ask you: What is more important, numbers or unity? JEFF PROBST: Wow. Amazing fact. Great question. Seeing as how I have never played the game this is clearly an armchair opinion. I’d say that in an ideal situation, you want the #’s at the merge until you get the advantage and can knock them off. But you want the other side to have the majority of the members on the jury because you are ultimately going to have to betray your own alliance to get to the end and if you do that they typically won’t give you the vote at the end. Depending on when you merge that can get tricky as the jury doesn’t always start with the first person voted out. The number of players at the start of the game also impacts the numbers. Having 20 really complicates things. 16 is a much more manageable number, but we don’t do 16 anymore. EW: Even with that whole strength versus loyalty debate, I couldn’t help but feel that the entire thing was a bit of a ruse on Coach and Albert’s part, with the real point of contention being Coach wanting to bring someone he could control in Edna that would give him an edge down the line versus Albert wanting to instead bring someone in Mikayla that might show a little more loyalty to him and Sophie. How much of that do you feel was factoring in? PROBST: I think you’re right and I think Coach won that battle. He has a side deal with Edna that will garner him more favor than it will Albert or Sophie. Strategically, Coach is a few steps ahead of Albert but I’m not sure about Sophie. It’s not clear how much she is laying back vs. just letting Coach take the heat. Coach is playing the best game he’s ever played. EW: What’s a worse move: Ozzy informing everyone he has the idol and declaring himself a free agent, or Brandon inviting his tribe to vote him out? PROBST: It’s a bigger blunder for Ozzy because Ozzy could actually win the game and moves like that really hurt him. Brandon can never win and blowing up like he has been at Tribal Council makes him more likely to go to the end. It’s amazing that coming into the game you would expect Ozzy to be the favorite, but the more I talk to people on the street it’s clear — Coach has surprised everybody and Ozzy is playing an even worse social game than he did last time. EW: We’re almost halfway through the season, so hit us up with an extra-special tease for next week. PROBST: Extra special? Okay. Part 1: It’s time for some Coach-chi. Part 2: An epic blunder in a challenge may cost a favorite their spot in the game.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 11:44 am
The title for Episode 7 is "Trojan Horse" Lots of discussion going on about this tease from Jeffy: One of the biggest moves in 23 seasons is made by one player. You can't even guess what it is. You couldn't even if you tried!!!
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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 12:10 pm
Hummina hummina hummina - Doing a Carnak here - lessee - Ozzy volunteers to go to Redemption Island so he can win his way back onto the Big Boyz Island and still have his idol to use when he gets back. How much do I win?
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Scarebaby
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07-31-2005
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 1:42 pm
Goddess, I like that. I have had the feeling for a long time now that Ozzy is going to leave the game with an idol in his pocket....again. Under your scenario, that could happen if he's defeated at RI.
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Iluvreality
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05-08-2011
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 2:02 pm
You can't take your idol to Redemption can you?
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Kookliebird
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08-04-2005
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 2:28 pm
I'm with GAL, but I think there's a bit more. Ozzy volunteers to go to Redemption Island because after seeing Christine, he's convinced that he will beat her AND the timing is such that he believes the merge is close. That way, his tribe would still have the numbers going into the merge. I also think there may be some sort of side agreement with Ozzy and Cochran going on based on the clip last night.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 3:21 pm
Iluv - Yes, you can take the Hidden II to Redemption Island. Supposedly that discussion came up last year and Jeff answered it. I don't remember, but that's what I read over at Survivor Blows, and they usually know what's going on. I think the tease about a "Trojan Horse" might mean even more than we are thinking. I'm just guessing here that Ozzy volunteers to go to RI to hopefully wipe out Christine or Mikayla, whichever one is still there. He has the II in his pocket. He has a deal with the guys at Savaii that he will come back acting mad at them and buddy-buddy with Upolu, which will make it look like they are Savaii 5, and Upolu with Ozzy 7. Upolu will think they can pagong the Savaii 5, but the "Trojan Horse" trick works, and it winds up with Savaii 6 to Upolu 5 when the trust in Ozzy at Upolu backfires. Please ... remember ... this is just me guessing. I have not read this anywhere, so don't go saying "Alaginger Said!!!"
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Kookliebird
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08-04-2005
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 3:30 pm
But, that's a great speculation AND you might be right!
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 3:52 pm
Alaginger's speculation is better than most other's spoiling. I think you have something there.
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Iluvreality
Member
05-08-2011
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 3:56 pm
Or....Ozzy could go to Redemption to be a "Trojan Horse" to get rid of that girl and end up losing...and then again he goes out with that idol in his pocket. I think that would be great!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2011 - 4:58 pm
Okay ... here are the CBS Misdirection Clues for the week! ******************** A TRIBE IS IN SHOCK WHEN ONE OF THEIR OWN MAKES A RISKY PLAY THAT WILL GO DOWN IN SURVIVOR HISTORY, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, OCT. 26 CHEAT TWEET: WOW! Survivor history is being made. One tribe makes a risky move. Will it pay off? Oct.26 @ 8pmET/PT "Trojan Horse" – One tribe calls upon the heavens in hopes of changing their luck, while the other tribe is left in shock when one of their own makes a risky move that will go down in Survivor history, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Oct. 26 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
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Solitaryphoenix
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11-08-2008
| Friday, October 21, 2011 - 3:32 am
I was tending to think Ozzy wouldn't be stupid enough to take that much of a chance to actually voluntarily get voted out, since I haven't seen anything from Maxx Fisher (or anyone else!) saying Ozzy actually goes to RI, just that he "asks" to go, but the 'Misdirection' from CBS would seem to confirm he actually does it...? I think he's arrogant enough to believe he'd win at RI, but being in good shape doesn't guarantee a victory, since many of the challenges are pretty generic as far as strength level required. I can't imagine he'd want to take the chance of going out of the game with a HII in his pocket again!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, October 21, 2011 - 4:19 am
Well ... the clue does say "will go down in Survivor history". It doesn't say if it goes down as 1) the most strategic move ever or 2) the dumbest play ever (LOL).
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Friday, October 21, 2011 - 7:16 am
Well, since Ozzy already owns part of the "dumbest move ever" history of Survivor it would kind of be nice to see him have a strategic piece too.
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Kitkat
Member
08-23-2008
| Friday, October 21, 2011 - 12:40 pm
I know you said it doesn't say the dumbest play, but it sure does remind me of Marcellas and Lawon on BB.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, October 21, 2011 - 3:38 pm
Survivor Blows is trying to speculate the outcome of Episode 7 before the spoiler Maxx Fisher reveals on Saturday, since he has been proven to be, evidently, a sound source. Right now they all seem to be leaning, from analytical work on the pics and the clues, towards: Mikayla beats Christine at RI Upolu wins the challenge Ozzy goes to RI
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 5:27 am
Wow --- Maxx Fisher has the spoiler up early this time, and it is a powerhouse! ************************* Christine wins RI again (Survivor Blows speculators would have been wrong - LOL) Upolu wins the challenge Ozzy goes to RI The story is just too much for me to tell, so I'll cut and paste some of the Maxx Fisher report here in red: "Cochran single handedly loses immunity for Savaii. The entire tribe wants him out but it’s Ozzy that steps in with the plan. Ozzy probably assumes that Christine would beat Cochran and I don’t know anyone that would think otherwise, so he volunteers to be voted out. ... the odds of him beating Christine are in his favor. The entire tribe becomes unified. The idea is for Ozzy to go to Redemption Island and at the next duel he’ll bad-mouth Savaii to whoever shows up from Upolu. He’ll mention that he played the idol already but ended up getting voted out finally, taking the idol out of play in their minds. So he beats Christine, returns at the merge, Upolu thinks the Savaii Idol is burned and they think Ozzy is on their side. ... Ozzy gives Cochran the Hidden Immunity Idol. It’s for the safety of Savaii in case they are wrong about when the player on Redemption Island comes back. Cochran should use it in the event someone on Savaii is in danger. Everyone votes for Ozzy & Ozzy votes for Cochran because he can’t vote for himself. One more thing to throw out there, one of the Savaii has a job. They have to pretend to flip to get information out of Upolu. I leave the identity for you to speculate." Ginger Note: I bet it is Cochran that has to pretend to flip.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 5:50 am
Thanks to Survivor Fever, more pics and transcript from Episode 7: **************************** Transcript: Announcer: Survivor is all about sacrifice...
Coach (at challenge): Duck, Edna! Announcer: ...all about commitment.
Jim (at challenge): Ozzy! Move it! Announcer: Wednesday...
Ozzy (camera confessional): You've gotta make big moves in this game. Announcer: ...one castaway asks to be sent to Redemption Island. Ozzy (camera confessional): I came to redeem myself. Announcer: Who will it be?
Cochran (camera confessional): I've always felt like an outcast. Announcer: Why would they do it?
Coach: It's kill or be killed. Announcer: It's the most strategic gamble in Survivor history.
Coach: This is our day. This is our day. ****************************
Coach
Ozzy
Brandon and Edna
Jim and Cochran
Sophie and Albert
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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 6:28 am
Love their face paint!!
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Jag2000
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07-01-2009
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 2:18 pm
Love even more the "BRA" paint on Brandon!!!! Too funny.......
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 2:20 pm
Do we know FOR SURE that the RI person comes back at the merge? Seems like awfully risky business to me!!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 2:37 pm
Nope, we don't know that Tnt because that would not be in Episode 7. Maxx Fisher is only spoiling one Episode at a time. For all we know the merge might be at 10 people and not 12. Or it might be that Christine beats Ozzy at RI. Or it might be that Upolu doesn't fall for the scam. Or it could be that Cochran pulls a sheister! We just don't know, because right now all we can talk about is Episode 7 and the only spoiling we have from Maxx is for Episode 7.
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Auntiemike
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09-17-2001
| Saturday, October 22, 2011 - 3:48 pm
The paint design similarities coordinate them into pairs. Is this significant or do you think they just worked on each other with the paint and copied their "partner"?
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