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Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I just watched the first clip of Brandon, and it was so sad when he said that his Uncle Russell is going to be so proud of the way he played the game.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Seriously? How can he know so little about how Russell thinks?

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
He was feeling so good and so proud of himself; I think he was probably projecting that onto Russell, thinking that he would identify because he'd played the game.

I also found it interesting that in the second clip of Rick at Ponderosa, every single juror was hoping to see Ozzy with the immunity necklace around his neck. When they showed the jury after they were all seated, they all looked unhappy.

Chicagolooper
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05-09-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicagolooper a private message Print Post    
I really enjoyed the clips of Ponderosa. The jury just didn't like the choices they had at final tribal.

This just goes to show that unless someone on the bottom makes a move and gets the others on the bottom with them to vote off the leaders, this is how the game plays out. I have to admire Cochran for at least being bold enough to make a move in the game which no one else had the guts to.

Albert's starts and stops on making a move actually hurt him since he was seen as being sneaky.

Great to see these clips and I love seeing the context they add to the game. One thing I wish they would do is continue the discussion of the game for another hour or two after the main program and post that in the site. They could enhance it significantly by offering the public a chance to submit questions. That would be so interesting. But we are left to the many interviews with individuals to figure it all out.

Gotta love TV clubhouse though - without all the wonderful posters here, I would lose out on so much. Thank you all!

Tiernet
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06-07-2004

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tiernet a private message Print Post    
Not a ponderosa clip but a very nice insight by Rick....
http://www.youtube.com/user/CBS#p/u/100/qtj1dfLgZec

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Thanks Tiernet

1. Rick looks a lot younger when he takes his hat off.

2. I'm gonna appreciate toilet paper more.

3. There is an ocean there, go wash your hands and body.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Washing in an ocean leaves a lot to be desired - when we swam in it on a couple of different vacations, the first thing we wanted to do when we got back to the hotel/house was to shower. Salt water leaves residue that is just not fun - especially in one's hair.

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
Cochran talks about being a 'student' of the game. Well, aren't we all? What is a 'student' of the game, anyway? One who's watched since the beginning season? I have, and I guess most of us have. Or is it someone who's studied the moves and doesn't make the same mistake they did? If so, then Cochran isn't a 'student' of the game because he jumped ship, like they always do. I'm also suprised that they still think Cochran thinks like they do: 'everyone wanted Ozzy to win'. When, in fact, Cochran didn't/doesn't want Ozzy to win, even after all Ozzy gave up for him. And, Ozzy says at the finale his biggest mistake was not giving Cochran the idol? They're still falling on their swords for this unloyal person. Cochran needs to stop fooling himself, he is not a 'student' of the game; he's just an idiot! That guy is my least favorite of all the players this season.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I took "student of the game" to mean he has watched the show since Day One, unlike the McActors and McActresses who are recruited and watch a couple of seasons while they are sequestered in a hotel room before being shipped off to location.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Ozzy did not give up anything for Cochran. Ozzy was playing the game for himself (and rightly so).

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
For me a true "student of the game" would have understood that to win, others have to WANT you to have a million dollars. They need to LIKE you! Of course, we don't see everything that goes on, but I didn't notice Cochran doing anything to make his tribemates - or me - like him!

He was absolutely my least liked player at the merge - pre-allegiance switch.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
And like Jim said, Cochran wasn't playing to win, cause you can't win when you alienate five members of the jury!

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think he was playing to win, just like Russell Hantz played to win, and Ozzy and Coach did. Playing to win doesn't mean you are successful.

So, you alienate 5 members of the jury. You can't win if you are on the jury either. Or get voted out even earlier. Part of playing to win is making sure you are still in the hunt.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Thanks Tiernet, what an excellent interview with Rick!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
We should remember what Rick said in this interview; that it is very different when you are sitting on the couch at home and "telling the TV participants" what to do. Being in the situation, with all the other conditions that wear on you make it much more difficult. So my hat is off to ALL the players, despite their particular personalities. They took on a big challenge and each, in their own way, maneuvered through it. Some got favor with the audience and some did not. It does not negate that they played the game. We are just armchair watchers full of good ideas on how it all should go down. Ha, ha.