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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
CBS should have it on their website, Nick.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
The big difference I see between Rob and Russell is that Rob does not take himself seriously (and he knows who he is) and Russell takes himself too seriously (and he does not know who he is)!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
And Rob is a multidimensional player where Russell is a one note player.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Auntiemike and Lilfair, you both nailed it On.The.Head.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I'm OK with Russell going. We've seen his game now let's move on. I've also seen Rob's game more than I need to. I don't find him quite as charming as some others. Let's move him out & watch some new game.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Actually we wouldn't have hardly seen anything of Russell's tribe if it wasn't for their plotting to get rid of him, since they have won everything...LOL!

Dlkuhn4
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07-14-2002

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You can watch it at Hulu.com

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
It is also available at cbs.com -

Nickovtyme
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07-28-2004

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
awesome!

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Tish, I have never heard of Rochambeau. I guess it means "rock paper scissors".

Whoami, I don't think Russell fell to his knees either.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Not quite to his knees (about 1min 15secs in)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIwY-5GUgU

Whoami
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08-02-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Yea, that's what I remember seeing. From the discussions here, I was thinking he'd flopped to the ground on his knees and wailed and cried to the heavens. Bending over and resting his hands on his knees wasn't nearly as dramatic as it sounded otherwise.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Thanks Kitt, that helps. I was thinking that bendover was later when he's walking back in the forest. NOW I understand what everyone was describing.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I confess that I was a bit shocked and uncomfortable seeing Russell cry. You know - the old stereotype that "tough guys" don't cry.

The strange thing about that is that I don't at all buy into that theory (that a man is weak if he cries). I guess my discomfort came from the knowledge that a bunch of people would make fun of him for crying. I think there are lots of negative things that one can say about Russell but I don't think deriding him for crying is one of them.

Anyway, Russell rolled the dice one too many times and it just wasn't going to happen again for him this season.

I can see why Survivor went back to Rob and Russell after seeing how boring the contestants were last season. Thank goodness these people are all more interesting.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Jimmer can you imagine how Russel would act toward another male player that cried? That's why I can't garner up any sympathy for his tears!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
See, I do not see Russell as that mean. Sneaky and conniving, yes! Totally. But not outright mean. (Hiding shoes or other stuff he has done is not mean to me, he was doing it in order to get ahead in the game.) And that is the difference to me.

Plus two wrongs don't make a right. And I just don't like to laugh at people who are in pain. And he really was in pain.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Burning someone's socks is not mean?! That was probably their only pair of socks. To me, that is mean and cruel. Pouring out their water when they are on the verge of dehydration? Mean!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But there is a valid reason he did it. Because he wanted to put his competitors in a disadvantage. I am not saying it was nice, but he did not do it just to be mean. He did not do it to hurt someone's feelings. He wanted them to be "off" as much as he could. To me there is a WORLD of difference. I just think laughing at his mental anguish/pain is mean.

Whoami
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08-02-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Oh I definitely think he has a mean streak. Calling people stupid is just one of the things he does that is mean in my book.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Again, I fully believe he calls them stupid with the intent of them playing Survivor stupidly. (Hope that makes sense.) I do not think he thinks they are stupid (as on an IQ test), just that they are playing the game stupidly. And he is not saying it to hurt their feelings, just to state that he is playing smarter than they are.

Colordeagua
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10-24-2003

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And the females are either beotches or his beotches -- like there's a difference, you'd want to be his? He's not using the words females, women, or girls -- it's beotches.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Like I said, there are lots of good reasons for disliking the way Russell played Survivor and what he has shown us in his post-game interviews. However, I have no desire to make fun of him for crying because I don't see his crying as a bad thing.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
YMMV, but I still laugh like heck at the scene of Russell crying! A mean little man gets ABSOLUTELY NO sympathy from me - no matter how anybody tries to 'spin' his actions.

Whoami
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08-02-2001

Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I don't think I made fun of him. I did say I rolled my eyes a bit when he went into his lament. But I was rolling my eyes more at the whole, "I shouldn't have gone out this way" thing, rather than at the crying. Really, how should he have gone out then? He got outplayed by a group of people who used a strategy in the game, IMHO. Throwing a challenge is just as much a strategy as is forming an alliance or lying to someone. So if he loves the game so much, he should have been applauding their daring move and congratulated them for getting him when two whole previous sets of castaways weren't able to.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I guess I have a different view of mean.. Russell is many things and mean is one of them.

Valid in HIS eyes, certainly not in mine. Guess I was taught not to destroy things belonging to others.. heck I was taught not to destroy things, period.

I don't buy his tears and frankly don't care. He has tears for himself but sympathy for no one else. When I see tears of sympathy or tenderness, tears from being touched by someone or something, that is sweet. Russell cried because he didn't get more time to be mean and cause others to lose their dream. He had three chances at the dream.

I don't have sympathy for bullies, much.

I have more difficulty understanding the standing up for him.