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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:21 pm
Matt could always convince everyone that Rob is the threat, being that he's been pulling everyone's strings, some scenario like that might work. Also, they may think they would easily win over Matt, bc he was on RI, which might sway them to keep him. I don't know that that will happen, bc they are still following Rob, which is disappointing, but, it ain't over yet.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:26 pm
Everyone seems to assume it will be Matt coming back, but what if it's not? What if it's Ralph, whose tribe was decimated, but are all on the jury. Does he deserve to win simply because he was on the losing tribe?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:31 pm
It's probably been mentioned...But my goodness...If ever a brother and sister resembled each other, it's Phil and his sister.
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:33 pm
Just a thought ..... maybe the producers are "really" pulling the strings and they will never let anyone vote out Rob .... maybe this is set up for Rob to be in F3. Its not like we see EVERYTHING or anything behind the scenes. Heck they do it on BB and we see it 24/7 or what they only want us to see. Just really dont trust these reality shows anymore. Not at all the same as they were when they first started. Just my conspericy theory. I am still rooting for matt to beat out Rob. Rob's smile at the RI comps always turns upside down whenever Matt pulls through. and the look on his face was priceless when Mike won the challange ... I think he is worried 1 of those 2 will come back in and go after him .... lol
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:50 pm
Lost and Lexie, I just started the new thread "Ponderosa the Jury". Went back and pulled in the David & Julie clips as well. Easier for me since I remember about when I would have posted (around 10pm Seattle time). I will continue to put them in the episode thread, but can easily cut&paste to the Ponderosa thread. Your idea makes a lot of sense, sorry I haven't done this before.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 7:34 pm
I would think Rob would be 'deserving' if he had been on Redemption all that time and had to beat so many people to stay in the game. I would think that of anyone. I think Bbpeach put it just right. RI is part of the game, if that's the hand you are dealt, and you play it well, you deserve to win. But *deserve* is often different from whom I *want* to win! LOL
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 7:52 pm
Finally, from my fav exit interview site: Steve Wright: I don't think Phillip Sheppard is acting, he's just crazy realitytvworld
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Mimi
Member
04-30-2009
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 8:01 pm
I'm not in love with RI anymore. Enough is enough for me. Also I wish they would have more difficult competions like one everyone else did last night.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 8:58 pm
quote:Amazing to see Rob crawling up those steps with his last board and Grant running up them with his last board.
If you go about three archives back in this thread (or go to the newly created Ponderosa thread, which I have not visited yet), take a look at the brother-in-law explaining Grant. Grant is a relentless athletic machine, and Rob actually owes a lot to him for having advanced as far as he did in this game. There were MANY immunity challenges where Grant single-handedly won it for his team. So, if Rob brought Grant, Grant way more than reciprocated. Mike - letting six see their family members - I think, as his mother said, that is just his nature. Six people could be very happy vs. just him or just two others. Mike has twice defeated Matt at Redemption Island. I rather think it will be Mike re-joining the game. Mike would probably have won this game had it not been for Rob playing on the opposite team. I am also in the camp of the postulate that whoever wins is the person who deserves to win. Even that woman who was not on the show and who won anyway deserved to win. WE may never have even seen her on the show, but THEY evidently all knew who she was and wrote down her name to win; therefore she deserved to win.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 9:17 pm
Whoa!! Just now reading the Steve exit interview, and he says it was Grant winning for his team that was the reason Zapatera lost. Didn't I just finish posting that opinion? Huh!! I swear I came to that conclusion on my own. I am validated.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 10:25 pm
"Just a thought ..... maybe the producers are "really" pulling the strings and they will never let anyone vote out Rob .... maybe this is set up for Rob to be in F3." Right behind yah on that theory, Lost, and it's the reason I'm rarely watching this season. It's very boring when the set-up is so blatantly obvious right down to the tears and "I'm going to faint" routine. Didn't Rob pull something similar the last time out?
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 10:32 pm
Juju said - Mike - letting six see their family members - I think, as his mother said, that is just his nature. Six people could be very happy vs. just him or just two others. Yeah, Juju I think you are right, that seems to be the kind of person he is. Remembering back from Julie's exit interview that I posted when she left: realitytvworld <snipped> Julie Wolfe: Yeah, yeah, you know, for the last few years, I've had a lot of financial challenges. I just went through a divorce. I'm paying alimony and child support, and it's put me in a financial bind with my house. I was in foreclosure. I came home from the game and I had an auction date posted on my door, and yeah, it's been a very emotional -- Mike is a realtor through the San Diego area and he helps veterans find homes, and he gave me some advice about how to save my home. He said, "You know what, if it's not working for you, you need to file bankruptcy. Like I know you don't want to file bankruptcy but it's the only way. It's the only way -- the bank is not looking out for your interest in your best interests." So, I did. I filed for bankruptcy and it has been a huge lift. I saved my home. I'm paying back the back-payments that I owe, and yeah. It's all a happy ending. <snipped> - - - I truly would love to see Mike come back into the game and take it to the end! ETA: You know, in retrospect, THAT may be a major reason Julie is so HAPPY at Ponderosa. Not just from the 'vacation' aspect and getting away from the trauma, but maybe having a burden lifted off her shoulders as to knowing how to proceed to save her house.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 11:04 pm
I would not be surprised if there were a script entitled, Survivor: The Island of Rob. I wouldn't mind seeing Mike or Ralph go back in, but I'd like to see Matt go back in bc he was eliminated twice and that would be a good twist. But I also think it may be Mike bc he's doing well in challenges; if he does go back and is in the final 3, he has a good chance to win, bc like Steve said, his tribe will likely vote for their own. I think Grant would do well in the final 3, bc he has done well in challenges. But if Grant made a move right now to get Rob out, that would be another great twist, if that happened, then I would stop calling him a follower and forget about the fish. I also think whoever wins deserves to win, even Rob, but some twist would be nice, Rob's been sitting pretty for far to long, then again, he does have the idol, so, who knows if he'll ever leave. He might still be there now.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 12:40 am
This season for me is definitely the bottom 5 or so. Not a Rob fan, but if I were on the jury, I'd probably have to suck it up and give him the vote. It's been his game. Even if I didn't already know him, I would still find it a boring season, since that is all it is about. What really has me puzzled tho, is that we haven't been shown anything about any of them plotting to take him out other than those at the beginning. So what are the rest of them thinking? Do they think that no one would vote for him since he's played before or what? It's almost like they are there to just hand him the game and be happy with second or third. I'm guessing that Rob does win, with the whole them of redemption, and of course they had to edit in Rob's poor pitiful me confessional about having tried to win this game for the last ten years, it's what he hasn't been able to accomplish, etc.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 12:53 am
AHAH moment! I'm back to watching the last of the clips and this was too funny, something I hadn't considered. WRT the shirt for Rob. Only problem, it was a "medium, PINK" shirt with Amber and Lucia's picture. Funny watch http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=QdgeFgeZn1BwZN0XfD16pgsI7qANzGb3&vs=Clips&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Family Visit Clip 1:23 Rob enjoyed seeing his sister Heather and getting the shirt with is wife and daughter's picture on it.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 7:24 am
Thanks Bisc. I have always thought we should have a Ponderosa clips (just like the blogs) thread so we don't have to wade through 150 posts.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 7:44 am
Bisc.. that was funny... I thought his sister arrived in a pink shirt and wondered how Rob ended up with a black Tank! I guess leaving the shirt with him was not pre-planned.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 9:10 am
right down to the tears and "I'm going to faint" routine. Didn't Rob pull something similar the last time out? Jeff addressed this in his vlog. He's not sure if Rob was milking it but said this challenge destroyed the team of young (in their 20s) very fit guys who get comfortable sleep and food who are on the crew. Jeff said that in that previous season, Rob had island flu and was sick. Some of the crew members got it too.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 10:24 am
I'm a little insulted on Rob's behalf at the suggestion that the powers that be are scripting this show, or telling people to keep Rob. That people would suggest it's not his intense charm, ability to maniupulate and READ people, to do very well in the challenges, etc. that has made him such a successful Survivor player. I guess if that's true, then this whole Matt thing on redemption island has to be scripted as well. And the people on RI are being told to throw the challenges so that Matt can stay and have his come-to-Jesus moments and we can see inspiring shots of him glowing in the sunlight with his new Jesus beard! Yep, all scripted! 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:49 am
Brenda, I agree. I don't think it's scripted, except for the editing. Jeff has often liked one contestant over another, and that contestant gets kicked. So now we'd have to assume he's not in on the conspiracy if there is one, which is highly unlikely. I don't think they force the shows or the vote offs, how could they? the contestants would clearly know.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 11:53 am
I think if they were scripting this show, Russell would still be in it (((shudder))). For some reason, the producers think he still makes "good TV."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 12:19 pm
ITA with Brenda. Rob haters will never give him credit. Even JP has said he is the best player they have had. Doing it 4 times doesnt make it any easier...its still different people/personalities and he had a bigger target on his back than a regular player...ask Russ
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 12:32 pm
There could be, and likely is, some production manipulation, in the same way that Russell "found" all those idols. And like I've said before, I like Rob, I think he's a great player, but he having done this before does make it easier, in that he has learned how to manipulate, knows what to look for, knows what to say, etc. So in this game, this season, he being there with all new people, is like taking candy from a baby. And predictable is not entertaining. In my view anyway.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:08 pm
With a show like Survivor that is taped so far in advance, the producers have the luxury of knowing the outcome and editing accordingly for what they believe is the best effect. So I'm sure there is some manipulation by the production team during filming and during the editing process. However, I certainly don't think they tell the contestants what to do, how to vote or force them to follow any sort of script. Ultimately it is completely up to the contestants. I think Rob has done amazingly well and certainly infinitely better in comparison to Russell who was the other seasoned player in the game.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:18 pm
One team kicked off their "returning player" as quickly as they could. One team kept their "returning player" through the merge. I would say the players who kept their veteran were the smart players 
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