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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The new pictues and transcript for next week's show are having problems coming up over at Survivor Fever, so I'll start with this deleted scene from last night's show which really gives us the incite as to why Cochran flipped.
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Taken from the Survivor Insider, and transcribed by James Barber over at Survivor Sucks:

Offer Final Four
Albert offers Cochran a place in the final four to encourage him to vote with Upolu

Coach: Treat him like a human being. He doesn't have that out here. A little bit from Dawn. I'll tell you the things that are important to him are that you defend him <Albert agrees> and you treat him like a regular human being <Albert agrees>. That's important. What you can do is make him feel that. He'll ask you a question, 'How far will I get?' and you're the guy (?) to get these people to do it. You say, 'Here's the deal, the 4 of us, the 3 of us, with Coach, maybe.'

Albert: We don't want to...

Coach: Make him think he's on the inside track. I think if someone other than me tells him that...now you get him feeling like that, then I'm 100% it will happen.

<Albert is chopping down bananas>
Albert (to Cochran): Something I wanna tell you. I talked to Coach a little bit, and we're pretty aware of what the situation is. The way I see it, it's really Sophie, Coach, and myself...with kind of Brandon, Rick, and Edna on the other side. You come in on our four, and it's gonna kind of put the ball in our court.

Cochran: I would love that. Seriously, immediately, no BS.

Cochran (solo): I'm not getting any offers from the Savaii members. Right now I'm their patsy, their plaything, sent out to gather information, but beyond that, I don't have any final 3 or final 4 promises from any of them. Now I'm being promised a potential final 4 slot with Coach, Sophie, and Albert. I think going with Upolu's the way to go.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Title for next week's show is: "Cut Throat"
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Per Jeff's tout, it is a double boot
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Cut and Paste of Jeff's weekly interview with Dalton Ross of EW.com:

Each week, host Jeff Probst answers a few questions about the most recent episode of Survivor: South Pacific.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Okay, Jeff. You were there. How thick was that tension after the Tribal Council vote with Cochran switching sides? Tell me what the scene was like as the contestants headed out of Tribal and back to camp.

JEFF PROBST: It was very tense after the vote. I felt for Cochran. There is nowhere to hide out there on the island. Nobody to call. No one to drop by with a Dominoes pizza and make you feel better. He made a big move and nobody was happy about it. It was very clear.

For the life of me, I cannot find any strategic advantage to switching sides at this point other than avoiding the colored rock. Obviously, the colored rock exists as a game of chicken to see if anyone blinks first, so I ask you: Would you ever in a million years change your vote to avoid it? And is it indeed an act of cowardice to do so?
I think Cochran changed his vote for a few reasons and the number one reason is that he felt bullied by his tribe. So given the chance to go to the other tribe was appealing because he might improve his position from bottom of the totem pole and if nothing else, “pay back is a , Ozzy.” Would I draw rocks? Depends. Jim’s logic made no sense to me because he kept saying that his “tribe” had the better odds, because they had two people with immunity, but Jim still had the same odds as everyone else. This is an individual game. At that point in the game I am not going to draw rocks. This is a zero sum game which means there is only one winner. I’m not drawing a f—ing rock this early in the game. Too many moves left to make. I like Cochran’s move. He’s a long shot to win so he went for broke.

You looked like you were struggling to keep a straight face during Ozzy’s acting job at Redemption Island and I don’t blame you because he was AWFUL. Have you ever in 23 seasons had a point where you felt you may have slipped a little — or come close to slipping — in outing someone’s deception with a comment or facial reaction?

Hard to know what the contestants can read on my face. I thought I did a pretty good job given Ozzy’s “unbelievable” performance! For the most part I feel confident that I don’t give away anything. One big thing I have going for me is the contestants wouldn’t know what to look for anyway.

This season is on a really good run and the only thing I’m pissed about is having to wait an entire week to see what happens next. So tell me: What happens next?

Cochran’s move left a mark. The tribe is not happy about it. The first ten minutes are some of the most uncomfortable of the season as they UNLOAD on Mr. Harvard.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Cut and pasted from today's interview with Christine by RNO (Reality News Online):
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RNO: It seemed obvious at first that you would switch tribes if you survived until the merge. But then we saw a few clips in website videos indicating that you hadn’t made up your mind. So what were you thinking in that regard?

Christine: It was pretty apparent that I’m not the best of friends with Upolu, but I couldn’t just close off my options completely. I felt that mentally I had to leave Upolu as an option just in case. I needed to know who would give me the better option. So I couldn’t close off Upolu completely. I just didn’t think it would be fair to me.

RNO: Based on what you learned from the other players, who did you consider possible allies should you have gotten back into the game?

Christine: Dawn. I felt through Papa Bear and Semhar and Elyse – they all felt and I agreed with them that Dawn would be my best possible alliance. I was planning on going directly to her and seeing what the possibility was there.

RNO: What was your first thought upon seeing that you would have to face off against Ozzy, well-known challenge monster?

Christine: Did you ever see Raiders of the Lost Ark? I’m a big Indiana Jones fan. Remember when he looked into the crypt and said, “Snakes… Why did it have to be snakes?” That was my first impression: “Ozzy… Why did it have to be Ozzy?”

RNO: Did you believe the story Ozzy told you about Cochran and the idol?

Christine: I did. I believed it wholeheartedly because who in their right mind would volunteer to get voted off? Who would do that? That never entered my mind. I believed he was blindsided and Cochran had the mental capacity to plan something like that.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Pictures and transcript still not working over at Survivor Fever. I'm trying these through the backdoor, using my software converter, and seeing if I can get some pictures from Survivor Blows to work here....hope this works!
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Ozzy: You totally screwed me over.

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Jim: Don't f***ing talk to me ever again.

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Whitney: Then you throw the entire f***ing tribe under the bus. You disgust me.

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Jim: My hope, that I can get a couple of them to vote Cochran.

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Sophie: Albert's thinking a lot right now, about switching up in the game and I think those are important things to think about.

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Jim (to Sophie and Albert):???

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Ozzy: Who knows what's will happen in this game. I'm never gonna give up as long as I live.

Allietex
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Ozzy needs to move to a remote South Pacific Island and go native.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Here are the CBS Misdirection Clues for Episode 8:
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A DOUBLE EVICTION ROCKS THE NEWLY MERGED TE TUNA TRIBE, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, NOV. 9

CHEAT TWEET:What do U think - is Cochran a Survivor genius or is he being used? + a double eviction #Survivor Wed, 11/9 @ 8pmET/PT

"Cut Throat" – After a shocking betrayal, one castaway faces the wrath of a former alliance, and a double eviction rocks the newly merged Te Tuna tribe, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Nov. 9 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to figure out how there is going to be
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a double eviction in the time allotted for the show.

Keith is at RI, so they can't start the show with a challenge, there. So somebody has to be evicted to go to RI....or 2 somebodies.

Do they have a challenge, go to TC and evict somebody, and then while sitting there have another challenge without getting to regroup, and after somebody wins immunity they vote somebody else out.

If that's the way it happens, that almost takes up all the time of the show, and I would think the double eviction would mean from the tribes to RI, and we wouldn't see who leave RI until the following week.

I just do not see how they have time to have a challenge, a TC, an RI challenge, another challenge, and another TC.

Or, maybe they are told at the beginning that they will be going to TC and they have to boot 2 players.

Maxx Fisher's spoiler will be out Saturday morning, and maybe we will learn from that.

Alaginger
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Friday, November 04, 2011 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript:

Announcer: Wednesday, this nerd betrayed his original tribe after the merge...

Ozzy: Cochran you just stabbed me in the back soooo hard.

Announcer: ...by sending one of their own to Redemption Island.

Jeff Probst (at Episode 8 Tribal Council): Keith, the tribe has spoken.

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Cochran (camera confessional): My former tribemates seem to really, really hate my guts.

Announcer: Now, their wrath is coming down...

Jim: You're a poor excuse for a man. Don't talk to me ever again.

Whitney: You threw the whole tribe under the bus.

Announcer: ...HARD!

Whitney: You DISGUST ME.

Tntitanfan
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Friday, November 04, 2011 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Allietex - If I were 40 years younger, I woulbe be paddling my outrigger at top speed to any South Pacific island where Ozzy wanted to go native.

Goddessatlaw
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
TNT, you'd have to watch from the shoreline with your leaky outrigger (seriously - like a colander) while I jet-skied to wherever Ozzy's primordial hiney might be found.

Holly
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 9:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Listen, lascivious ladies, you would both get drenched and knocked off your paltry sea-going vessels when I buzzed by you both at high speed in my uber-powered, cigarette speedboat. That primordial hiney would be mine and we'd happily live on coconut milk forever. Mwuahahaha.

Longbeachbbfan
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
I'm glad to see some Ozzy love here. He is HOT! Will someone explain to me why Cochran felt bullied? Who did what to him? Cochran's imagined 'fouls' not only eliminated 5 jury votes for himself, making it impossible for him to win, he probably ruined the game for 5 other people. Talk about an emotional/incompetent player.

Fayc
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fayc a private message Print Post    
I don't think your opinon of Ozzie matters to him, cause your opinion of him could NEVER match his opinion of himself.

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Ooooops! I hadn't realized how stiff the competition was going to be - planning now to parachute in from the latest model jet plane!

Auntiemike
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
You all can have Ozzy. I tend to look for the person within the outer shell.

Sammi
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammi a private message Print Post    
Why shouldn't he have an ego. He can fish, climb trees like a monkey. He Does keep his tribe fed and does take care of them. Let's face it, if we could do all he does out there on a deserted island we probably would have a high opinion of ourselves too. Plus he wins so many challenges. I think he's is great and I don't care that if he thinks he's great too.

Alaginger
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Saturday, November 05, 2011 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
And on that note, here I am with Maxx Fisher's spoilers for the week. He didn't get them up til this evening, but I've been checking off and on all day. Here's what he has to say:
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There will be two IC's this week and two TC's.

Usually the show starts with an RI challenge, but since Keith is there alone, there will not be one.
The first 10 minutes, according to Jeff, is "Bash Cochran" time by at least Ozzy, Jim and Whitney. don't know if Dawn bashes him or not.

Maxx says: Ozzy will not win immunity at the first IC, nor does he still have the HII, so he is toast and is sent to RI.

Then there is another IC and at TC, Jim gets sent to RI.

That's Episode 9 ... no RI challenges......

Speculation is that in Episode 10, Keith and Ozzy will start off with an RI challenge. The winner of that challenge will then compete with Jim. This speculation comes from a spoiler that is not Maxx, and feels confident with his source, but is not 100% sure his source is on the up and up, so right now we just call that speculation since it sounds good and makes sense. Jeff has said there will only be 1 on 1 challenges at RI this season, so this spoiler/speculation falls right in there.

Tntitanfan
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Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
We were also told there would be no "group" challenges this year -

Alaginger
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Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
That's what I meant by 1 on 1 challenges ... sorry, didn't make myself clear.

Alaginger
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Sunday, November 06, 2011 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
There are some pictures up over at Survivor Fever of the first challenge in Episode 9:
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Players Arrive: I see bits and pieces, front to back of:
Edna, Brandon, Dawn, Whitney, Sophie, Cochran, Albert, Jim, Ozzy, Coach, and Rick

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Here's Dawn tossing a ball to a container and the last pic shows a ball in the container

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Here's Jim balancing(?) something on a bowed-type
object (looks like a bow of a bow & arrow set)

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Here's Sophie running with a pile of coconuts behind her, or are those the balls you have to pitch until you get one into that container thing.

There is no transcript with these pics, and if somebody at Survivor Fever or Survivor Blows figures out how the challenge works, I'll come back. I have no idea how it works.

Just know that Ozzy doesn't win this one!

Alaginger
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Monday, November 07, 2011 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Well, you guys just have to see this picture of Cochran clowning around in the next episode:

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Then here are a couple of shots of the challenge.
I really think that one of Sophie in the post above is a repeat of a previous episode.

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Konamouse
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Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
This looks like one of those "everyone starts and the first 6 advance to the next round, then the top 3 advance to the final round" sort of competitions. And that bottom picture is the area in the background of the Sophie cap above.


Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, November 08, 2011 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I think you are right Kona ... and checking over at Survivor Fever, they agree with you.

I also think the picture in the above post of Jim is the 2nd challenge because he has his buff around his head in one pic and around his neck in the group shot. The group shot is definitely just before the 1st challenge because Ozzy is still there.

Alaginger
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Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Don't see anything new this morning for tonight's show:
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Keith is at RI

Cochran takes a verbal bashing from the Savaii

First immunity challenge - ball tossing
No clue who wins immunity
Ozzy sent to RI

Second immunity challenge - balancing ball on bow
No clue who wins immunity
Jim sent to RI

Whoami
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08-02-2001

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I hope those two boots are right. That would be the ultimate for me, after seeing the way these people treated Cochran! Whitney can go next week and all will be well.

What would be a dream ending is, whichever one of those knuckleheads is left standing at RI gets beat by Cochran when its his inevitable turn to go there.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
That would be wonderful Karma, WHO, watching those knuckleheads getting their just-desserts.

Alaginger
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Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Whoami ... if you want to see the speculated line-up from here on out, go over to the general all-season thread here under spoilers and read up.