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Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Brandon's lack of support from family goes a long way toward showing why he's SO messed up! Not a family I'd want to be born into. Instead of critisizing him, they should have seen that the boy needs help!

I'm glad Cochran came in second on Fan Favorite voting. I hope he takes that to heart.

I'm glad Sophie won, and I agree her tears probably made her appear more human to the jury and may have sealed that win. She does come across as very guarded and not warm and friendly so winning over a jury is no easy task.

Am glad Coach didn't win after, how Edna so vividly pointed out, he used the number one way to dupe people -- religion. Cochran was right -- he played a brilliant game if he'd have left all the god and honor stuff out of it.

I found myself rooting for Ozzy at the end! Never thought that would happen. But I reverted back to Sophie when Ozzy left. Good season. Can't wait to see how the tribes living in the same place will change up the game.

Sean
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02-26-2011

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sean a private message Print Post    
Here is my recap for the Season Finale.

http://sfurfaro.blogspot.com/2011/12/survivor-south-pacific-season-finale_18.html

Thanks for Reading this season!

Catlover
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09-02-2011

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catlover a private message Print Post    
Thank you to all the spoilers. Great job as usual. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
I didn't watch this year--not even 5 seconds of a show. So, I didn't have anything to contribute about this season. I'll spout off now--not about this season so much but about Survivor.

Ok, about this season for 1 moment--I didn't watch because there were returning players, and a relative of ER. Returning players did it for me with the ER/Rob show. Let's think about this for a minute--I'll use a individual sport as an example--tennis. Let's say I bring in 16 people to compete in a tennis tournament. They have never played before--only watched tennis on TV. Then I bring it 2 more to play--and they have been in 4 or 5 tennis tournaments already.

Would anyone here think this might be a good tournament to watch??? Last season and this season were just that. And to add insult, the ER/Rob show wasn't technically fixed--however it was very planned to provide Rob the greatest increase in odds of winning. Each and every challenge was physical plus a puzzle--Rob is probably the Best to ever play Survivor with that combination of events. They put a big emphasis on building a shelter--probably the best ever at it was Rob. They put people on one team who wanted nothing to do with the past winning and the other team all mindless sheep who didn't want to win--didn't do anything to even challenge Rob in any way.

Sure, there was a chance that ER could have ended up with that group, however it also meant that Rob had a 50/50 shot at that group as well. So, Rob had played more times than anyone else. All of the challenges gave him the best chance to succeed. The shelter thing have him the best chance to succeed. And by a 50% chance, he got the team who did literally everything he said to do--and didn't do anything they were told not to do.

Well, this season, as soon as I saw 2 players were coming back, but everyone else would be know, it didn't matter after that. It's not Survivor. It's the blank and blank show--insert the names of whoever is coming back.

The rave love of Survivor happened because they put a group of people together who had never played before and were all strangers. Everyone was on the same footing--or at least could be. Even in later seasons, those playing could all watch every season before them.

Oh, the other thing that brought it down a peg--when they stopped picking everyone from those who applied.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
WHAT THE HECK? Not once this season do I remember anyone saying that Sophie was spoiled or acted like a brat and then all of a sudden at the end, Ozzie declares it as so and now it's considered the truth? Boy that made my blood boil while watching!

Where Coach won my respect this season, Ozzie lost it. I'm so glad Sophie won. And she BEAT OZZIE to boot! Go Sophie!

Aitch41
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01-09-2009

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aitch41 a private message Print Post    
The best part of watching Coach and Russell is the mute button on my TV.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Sunday, December 18, 2011 - 11:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Great show, great season, great spoiling. Thx. Glad Sophie won over. Felt bad for Cochran and Brandon. I joked the other day that Brandon might show up in a body-cast, after his family got through with him, but this ostracising him is so much worse. I hope his wife and kids are kind and loving and really do stand by him. And I hope that Cochran gets off the internet, and finds a girlfriend!

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 12:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Why all the love for Ozzie? He isn't very bright. He isn't very nice. He isn't even very good looking. All he can do is climb trees and swim. I just don't get it. Listening to him go on and on about how be became as great as he is, made me think he's more like Russell than Hantz 2.0.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 12:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
I liked Sophie until she did start acting like a brat telling Albert to drop his game and pick up her pieces. What??? She needs to get over herself!

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 12:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Not a great season. I never had anyone to root for.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 12:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Odd that all of a sudden, Cochran didn't look pale as a ghost.. did he get a spray tan? And never realized that Cochran isn't the only one with kyphosis; Sophie may have spent too much time in the lab bent over..

I guess I'm ok with her winning and know she'll use the million to help pay for med school and she was good at some of the harder competitions.

I do think at times she came off as distant and then she'd have a loud opinion, but half of those that was saw were when she tried to keep Albert, who was basically useless IMO, from talking over her. He was more arrogant than she was. But I didn't get why she thought he should just forget about winning immunity to help her win, unless maybe they talked about needing to beat Ozzy in that comp, no matter what.

The next comp, Albert certainly seemed intemt on screwing up Sophie's chances to win, and she STILL won.. though I think Ozzy was truthful in describing him as freezing up.. you could see it when he wouls just look at Sophie, while Probst yammered away (he would drive me nuts out there).

I was quite happy for Ozzy to win the viewer vote.

The show , the finale and "reunion", while it is great that they give it two hours and they have eliminated the stupid memory walk and all the silly fake ritual at the end (that worked way back when we didn't have veterans, returnees, those already famous, when all were just people wanting to challenge themselves on this show but not now.

(Lance, I don't think the tennis comparison works.. tennis is a game with rules and objective scores and the pros have been practicing and training for years. With Survivor the rules and fomrat change and morph, but it is really all that season's group that creates what is to happen, what is prized and what is mocked, so while it may be advantageous to return, things do change and the survival aspect seems to be less and less prominent. Meanwhile Jeff inserts himself into the game, the deliberations, more and more.

I hated Jeff mentioning any possibility of Russell ever returning, or of Brandon for that matter. Brandon coming across so sympathetic, but he managed to trash some people with his delusions.

I wish Cochran could just be confident and move away from constant self-deprecation. As for Jeff telling him he would be dating by now.. maybe Jeff didn't realize just how gross many of the things Cochran said, so IF he is like that in real life, just TMI for most people I would think.

Anyway, it is over, for now.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
And increasingly, they snub so many of the people from the season.. but it was predictable that it would be about Hantz and Hantz, Cochran, more than most.

I thought Edna looked great!

And wish they had ignored the sleazy "romance".

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I'm SO happy Sophie won! She's been a favorite for me all season.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178055756/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-brandon-pt-1

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178055770/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-brandon-pt-2

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178055781/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-brandon-pt-3

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178055792/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-rick-pt-1

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178059203/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-rick-pt-2

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178059214/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-ozzy-pt-1

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2178059225/survivor-south-pacific-ponderosa-ozzy-pt-2

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 1:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Tisha, once again, great spoiling and love GAL as the wingperson too...

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
My heart was breaking for Brandon last night. It is very difficult to battle whatever demons one may have without a supportive family.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Thank you Trish and Sean, see you next time.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Ozzy played a one dimensional game and that's not how to win this game. It's near impossible to win if you solely rely on physical strength...winning comps. The first time you don't win immunity your voted out if you don't have the social skills to back you up. IMO Ozzy doesn't get the game, fully.

I'n very glad "Sofie" won the $$$$.

My heart hurt for Brandon when his family turned on him. Don't understand why Russell was spared from the family turning on him.

I liked this season a lot! First time in several season that I can say that.

Jbw
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08-14-2006

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbw a private message Print Post    
The wikipedia page for Survivor: South Pacific has this jury vote tally for the win:

casting votes for Sophie: Ozzy, Rick, Edna, Whitney, Dawn and Keith.

casting votes for Benjamin: Brandon, Cochran and Jim.

Iluvreality
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05-08-2011

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Hated seeing Russell in the audience and Jeff even hinting about having Brandon and Russell on a future season. The way Russell was acting when Jeff was talking to him reminded me of how those "wrestlers" talk to each other. I don't believe any of it. Russell is such a little troll.
Ozzy just kept going on and on about getting knocked down and getting up. You can do anything...blah...blah...blah...What does he do in real life,other than performing in an X rated video.
I would have loved for Jeff to talk to all the Survivors and see what they are doing now. Even poor Sophie got left out. It was the Ozzy,Brandon and Russell show. Not really impressed!

Chicagolooper
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05-09-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicagolooper a private message Print Post    
Great to read the comments and see that many others feel as I do. I was happy with the Sophie win.

I totally agree with Lance and Seamonkey in that we now need a Survivor without ANY retreads. Give us new people! When they let the veterans stay on longer, they earn the win - except for Coach who, in this case, i think made far too many promises. I will look forward to reading Coach's reaction to Albert saying that he and Sophie carried Coach to the end. hmmm

I just felt that the returning players, Redemption Island, and the planted relative just took away too much from the basic survivor we all know. Bring back the richness of 16 people who have never met and would never meet in any other circumstances -- and let the fun begin.

Gurliegirl
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06-20-2006

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gurliegirl a private message Print Post    
Lance, I could have written that post myself. I didn't watch one minute this season nor last because of the reasons you state above. The love is gone for me too.

Michaelwinicki
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09-04-2006

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Michaelwinicki a private message Print Post    
The closing to this season reminded me of the first "Russell" season, where the ending came down to someone who formed alliances with anyone and everyone Coach/Russell, one guy who just sorta tagged along to the end, and a girl... With the girl taking the win.

Coach was a piece of work... "I'm sorry I didn't keep my word– I WANTED to play an honorable game".

I'm not sure when these folks who do the multiple alliance thing are going to learn, that unless you have a jury full of "Cochran's" that you're going to pizz those folks off you made the alliance with.

The final tribal for all three of them was a "car-wreck", with Sophie coming out the least damaged.