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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 5:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever for pics and transcript for next week's episode:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

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Edna (talking to Albert, Coach and Sophie): Our tribe says honor and integrity and then you allow such behavior!

Probst: Brandon is in deep trouble...

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Coach (camera confessional): On a day where we thought Edna was definitely going to go home, that's not the case anymore.

Probst: And Cochran's in even deeper.

<nighttime at Redemption Island in the shelter>

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Cochran: Think I have a chance of beating you at a duel?

Ozzy: You have a chance.

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Ozzy (camera confessional): He really doesn't stand a chance.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 01, 2011 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
EW weekly interview between Jeff Probst and Dalton Ross:
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Cochran kept saying – even to cameras when there were no Upolu people around – that they OWED him for switching sides. How can this guy be such a super fan of the show and actually think that anybody owes anybody else anything in an individual game for a million dollars?
JEFF PROBST: Ah, I disagree with the implication. This is a game based on social politics. Cochran has a vote in this game. He gave Upolu the final 6 when he walked away from his tribe. I would have negotiated differently. I would have said, if I come over, I need verification from 3 of you that I am safe for two tribals. If not, you will not get my vote in the end. That certainly doesn’t guarantee a thing in this game but that’s maybe the only thing you can do to help ensure a shot at a bit of loyalty. But generally speaking I do think there is some value system in Survivor — it’s often the basis for why people win or lose the game.

EWAlbert wins immunity and reward and then gives up his shower and massage to Cochran. I have to assume this was his blatant attempt to curry favor with a jury vote. You like that move, or does it come across as a little too blatant and put more of a target on the person from the perspective of the other players?
JP I don’t think Albert has a chance in hell of ever winning this game so it doesn’t really matter. He’s so obvious you see him coming from three islands away. Then again…I didn’t think Natalie had a shot at winning over Russell.

EWIt’s hard to watch Brandon out there sometimes with the personal struggles he’s clearly having, which culminated with him at Tribal Council proclaiming that, “I want to do wrong things.” You’ve removed players in the past who were physically unable to continue. Has there ever been any discussion as to removing a player (like Brandon) whose mental state has degraded due to the harsh conditions that make playing Survivor so difficult physically but emotionally as well?
JP Great question. There was never any concern about Brandon becoming violent to himself or others. We do monitor the contestants and we are very concerned about their welfare. We did remove someone in Fans vs Favorites because she was emotionally exhausted and we were concerned she might hurt herself. (Ed Note: He’s talking about Kathy Sleckman.) So yes it is a concern but it has only happened the one time.

EW And now the Upolu folks must eat their own. Tease us up for next week, Jeff!
JP Well, the thing I’m most excited about is Cochran and Ozzy on Redemption Island. Is there any chance Cochran could win?

Alaginger
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Friday, December 02, 2011 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
As usual, here's our CBS Misdirection ... but it sure smells like a Russell thing to me:
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From CBS....
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DURING AN EMOTIONAL FAMILY REUNION, THE DYNAMICS IN THE TRIBE CHANGE WHEN A RELATIVE CROSSES THE LINE, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, DEC. 7

CHEAT TWEET:Reunion time on Survivor! A castaway’s relative crosses the line & may ruin their chances @ the million. 12/7 8pmET/PT

"Ticking Time Bomb" – A relative crosses the line during the emotional family reunion, and an unlikely secret alliance threatens the pecking order of the Te Tuna tribe, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Dec. 7 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
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Lexie_girl
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Friday, December 02, 2011 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
As usual, here's our CBS Misdirection ... but it sure smells like a Russell thing to me:
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Smells like Russell, but you'd think Brandon's wife would come out for the family visit.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 02, 2011 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The rumors are ..........

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that Russell makes an appearance, but I'll know more on Saturday (or maybe even tonight) when Maxx does his spoiling. So far he has just been telling us who wins RI and who gets the boot from the tribe, so he may not even spoil if Russell is there or not.

Tntitanfan
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Friday, December 02, 2011 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
When I was reading that Russell might return, I had to keep reminding myself that at the time of the family visit, Russell would be totally unaware of how Brandon has disavowed him and said that he was very different from Russell. Russell, being Russell, probably thinks that being the nephew of such an awesome player as himself virtually assures the boy of the win!

Pamy
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Friday, December 02, 2011 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
why would he have him be the relative? when he started out hiding he was Hanz? wouldnt they pick the relative preshow so that relative could get passport etc?

Juju2bigdog
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Friday, December 02, 2011 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
We can never get too much of Russell on Survivor now, can we?

Hypermom
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 02, 2011 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
It's Brandon's Dad that comes. Not Russell. Jokers has the video up.

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Wonder why it isn't Brandon's wife?

Pamy
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Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
she was either preggers or had just had the baby

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Pamyluv!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I don't ever want to see Russell on Survivor again. And I'm sick of his nephew, too.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, December 03, 2011 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
ditto

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, December 04, 2011 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Maxx Fisher is down.......but I've gone to other sites and pretty much picked it up.
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Ozzy beats Cochran at RI
Edna gets the boot at TC

Thanks Hypermom for finding out that Russell does not come to the Family Visit. Made my Day!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, December 04, 2011 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript and pics thanks to Survivor Fever:
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Transcript:

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Announcer: Wednesday, Brandon's dad arrives to shake up the game.

Coach: Brandon's dad tries to bully me.

Announcer: Brandon freaks out.

Brandon (talking to his dad): Spit on a million dollars!

Brandon's Dad: Are you kidding me?

Announcer: How will this impact the others?

Coach: It's all about manipulation and control and the Hantz family are the kingpins.

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Announcer: And, it's the nerd versus Ozzy the dominator in the closest competiton yet.

Cochran (talking to Ozzy at night in R.I. shelter): Think I have a chance beating you at a duel?

Ozzy: You have a chance...

Ozzy (camera confessional): He really doesn't stand a chance.

Juju2bigdog
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Sunday, December 04, 2011 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Oh, I am SO relieved to see it is Brandon's Dad who comes and not his uncle. Isn't it just darling how Brando is a smaller clone of his Dad?

Seamonkey
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 2:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
It was still not nice to see Russell in the little teaser where we then saw that it was Brandon's dad (Russell's brother).. but I didn't think the father looked all that much like Brandon, in the clip, but in the pic above, Brandon's hair looks so much darker, like his dad.

Alaginger
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yep ... there was a lot of hype about Russell being the family member to attend. Not just CBS with the tease. Evidently Brandon had written something on My Space, Facebook or Twitter (or one of those things I can't keep up with - LOL) to Russell about Russell being on the show. Some people took this and ran with it saying Russell would be at the Family Visit episode, but it appears that Brandon was just talking about all the previous clips of Russell that were shown in the introductions of Brandon.

Alaginger
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Final Three scenarios from Dawn and Whitney:
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With the interviews now out from Jim and Keith and Dawn and Whitney, it appears that Cochran was a bigger fool than we even realized. Of course, maybe he didn't feel confident with the fact that he was considered part of the Final 3 in two different scenarios on Savaii. Dawn says that her secret Final 3 was with Jim and Cochran. Whitney said that she and Keith planned to do Final 3 with Cochran. The only one that talked about really wanting to get rid of Cochran in seriousness was Ozzy, supposedly. I guess it would have been hard to say, "Hey, we want you to be part of our Final 3 because we know that nobody will vote for you to win!"

Tntitanfan
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I think that folks did not tell Cochran about their plans to include him in the final three because he seemed almost as bad as Brandon about not self-monitoring what came out of his mouth!

Lexie_girl
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Too bad none of them told Cochran he was in the F3. Every week when they went to TC, he was sure he was going home. If Cochran had felt safe, he would have never flipped.

Roxip
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
He wouldn't have believed them if he had been told...I mean, hey Cochran, I'm keeping you with me til final 2/3 because I know I can beat you? That's an awesome argument...LOL!

Seamonkey
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Monday, December 05, 2011 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Well, yes, it IS an awesome argument! In order to win you must make it to final three , so that is what he wanted. He just seemed to think he'd have final three handed to him by the other tribe.

TNT, what leads you to believe that no one ever talked to him? And what stopped him from talking to anyone except Ozzy.. well Ozzy talked to him, he was part of a plan and then he flipped. That's on him, IMO.

Tntitanfan
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Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 5:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought that several people said that they should have shared their plans for Final 3 with him, but did not do so. I think that their reservations about sharing their plans was a fear that he would blab -

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 6:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Go to this link, and on the left-hand side of the page you can read all the interviews with Jim or Keith or Whitney or Dawn after their exit from RI was aired.

http://www.survivorfever.net/index23.html

In the one from RTVW with Keith, Keith definitely says he told Cochran "Final 3".

I think the problem was, that Cochran probably didn't believe them if they even said it, because everybody says anything and everything to anybody to just get ahead in the game. You never know when they are serious......and vice versa.

I thought it was very interesting in Dawn's exit interviews that she thought she had a Final 3 with Jim and Cochran, but in Jim's interviews, he says that after the merge, everybody was fixed on getting rid of Dawn because she was too likable and a good contender to win if they went to the F3 with her.

Tntitanfan
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Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ginger! Very interesting perspective -

Alaginger
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Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Bit of explanation of the RI duel sequence:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst: We'll now bring in the competitors for today's duel. Ozzy will be battling against Cochran. Welcome to Redemption Island Arena. Before we get to your duel, this morning in treemail you guys received the EVO 3D from Sprint. Edna, I'll come take it back.

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Now, Ozzy, Cochran, there is a twist to today's duel but I'll save that for a moment and get to what is more pressing for the two of you, which is what could be a million dollar duel.

Here's how it works. For today's duel you will use grappling hooks to retrieve three bags. Each bag contains a ball. Once you have all three bags, you will use one ball to solve the table maze. The first person to get it right, stays alive in this game. The loser is out for good. Their adventure is over, no shot at the money. Big stakes. This is it. One shot. Take your spots.