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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever for the pics and transcript to Episode 8:
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Transcript:

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Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor, with the potential merge on the horizon, for Ozzy's plan to work, he has to win at Redemption...

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Jeff Probst (calling Redemption Dual): It is hanging on by the edge of the pole!

Probst: ...and Cochran has to stay loyal.

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Cochran (camera confessional): First you get the egomaniac returning player voted out. Then you get his idol. Then you get the million dollars.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Each week, host Jeff Probst answers a few questions about the most recent episode of Survivor: South Pacific with Entertainment Weekly.
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ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Okay, Jeff. You’re on the Savaii tribe and Ozzy presents his plan to get voted out on purpose and go to Redemption Island. Yet you can’t be sure the merge is next, can’t be sure Ozzy will win the duel, and also know that the person he’s going against in Christine was voted out first on her tribe so there’s a pretty good chance you don’t even need to beat her because she may not even want to go back to Upolu. What do you do: go along with the plan or argue to cut Cochran loose instead?

JEFF PROBST: I go with the odds that the merge is coming, knowing that if Ozzy doesn’t make it back, we have Christine as a back up. It takes a big move and this is a great time and a great idea if executed properly. If I’m Cochran, I might also pray Ozzy loses and I get to keep the idol. Finally, if I’m a fan of the show, I pull Ozzy aside and give him some basic acting lessons starting with: ”Less is more.”

I think you’re a good person, Jeff. But admit that, like me, you love seeing blindfolded people bash their heads into things on challenges. You love it! Admit it! It’s okay to give in to the dark side once in a while. That said, while I have no doubt you and the other producers want there to be collisions, I’m also guessing there is a fair amount of prep and discussion about how the courses are designed so that nothing too bad happens to anyone. Tell us about walking that fine line, and what sort of advice you give the contestants beforehand to keep them from bonking themselves unconscious.

Yes to all of the above. We do like collisions but we don’t want anybody being seriously injured. We start out with a test block where we just walk through the challenge without cameras to see how it’s playing. We’re usually a bit light on the obstacles at this point. So we add a few more well placed logs or barrels or trees, and then we bring in cameras and the full Dream Team and we run a full-on rehearsal. This is usually where most of the injuries occur. Based on the results of the rehearsal we back off or add obstacles. It’s always very tricky because the real Survivors tend to run much harder than the Dream Team so we have to anticipate that and try to accommodate accordingly. As for the advice, I always say the same thing : “Go hard.”

Religion has played a part on the show from the very first season, and has been a major storyline for the past two installments. I have to ask you because we’ve seen it asserted by contestants time and again on this show: Do you think God really cares who wins an immunity challenge and gets to go see a cross-dressing Adam Sandler comedy?

Well I’m a bit like Steve Jobs. I’m 50-50 on the God thing. If there is a God, then I’m guessing that from time to time s/he does check out Survivor and based on who is asking for the “favor,” probably does care about the outcome. If it’s Coach and Coach is being sincere, I think God would probably lend him a bit of a hand. I think God appreciates the journey/struggle Coach is on in this lifetime and he probably wants to throw him an encouraging bone. The key with all of this is to remember that simply because God helped one tribe doesn’t mean he doesn’t like the other, just not as much.

Tease us up for next week’s episode, Jeff.

If you thought Ozzy’s move was good, just wait till next week. Game Changer.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Maxx Fisher Advanced Spoiler.......
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Maxx Fisher says that he only spoils week to week, and only after getting confirmed information from his source. He has stated at Sucks that Episode 8 is going to be awesome, and he has one more thing to confirm before spoiling,
which will probably be on Friday.

Meanwhile, he has given us this!

"I'll throw this spoiler out for episode 8 because:
1. I'm sure they'll spoil it in the previews
2. Everyone already assumes it anyway
3. It's not much of a spoiler
They merge"

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to James Barber at Survivor Sucks for transcribing this deleted scene from Episode 7 of a private confessional with Christine at RI.
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The Duel Was Intense
Christine reveals how nerve wracking the duel with Mikayla was for her.

"The duel was very intense against Mikayla. It was nerve-wracking. I really had to focus. It went to the last second. "

"Not only was the audience cheering for Mikayla, they were helping her. They were telling her which boards to go next. So she just had to run and say, 'OK, the one next to your foot.' She just picked it up and put it on. So..."

"When it was happening, it was a little annoying, but then, when I won, I was kind of happy that even with people helping, I still won."

"Albert and Sophie were a lot closer to Mikayla than they were to me. So I almost expected them to help her more than myself."

"They clearly did not want me to win at all. So when the merge happens, or when I go back into the game, I'm still a free agent. I'm not going to definitively decide Savaii or Upolo. I have to see where I fit the best, what's the best for me."

"Whichever side will get me further in the game is my strategy. I'm going to go in and just listen to what people have to say, and take with me all the information that the people who have passed through here have given me, take all that into consideration, and then make my decision."

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Also transcribed from the deleted scenes:
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Ozzy Better Win
Cochran is so grateful to Ozzy for volunteering to go to Redemption Island

"If Ozzy does go through with this and really saves me - he would be saving me - I don't see myself backstabbing him anytime soon, unless he does something absolutely insane in the future. I really do sincerely appreciate him doing this. I know it's not for me, I know it's for the tribe, but it does directly benefit me. I'll probably, at least for the next several votes, vote however he wants. I'll feed him any information he wants. I'll be a good guy. I'm not that sinister. I love this game, but I'm not going to play an evil game. When someone respects me and helps me out, I'm more than happy to reciprocate."
(cut)
"One scenario that's running through my mind and making me worry is that even if Ozzy does go through with this plan and agree to be sent to Redemption Island, in the unlikely event he does lose, I know my tribe's going to hate my guts. Even though I had nothing to do with this plan, I didn't suggest it, I didn't even encourage him that strongly, I know for whatever reason they're going to be furious because they're going to view me as the reason Ozzy was kicked off, because I couldn't fasten the clip properly. So there's only one possible good way this could end, which is Ozzy winning the challenge. If he loses, Savaii's gonna hate my guts. If I get sent to Redemption Island, I'm gonna lose and go home, and Savaii's gonna lose, so that would be horrible. Ozzy better just win tomorrow or else I'm going to feel even more ostracized probably than even after losing that last challenge."
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Ginger Note: The previews this week paint Cochran as being sinister and not supporting Ozzy, but this transcript of a deleted confessional scene paints a different picture. As usual, CBS previews is trying to misdirect us.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
For What It Is Worth ... here is what I'm reading over at Survivor Blows:
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The ones who have posted so far from the promo, the pics, the clues, the gut-feel, the deleted scenes, etc., etc., etc......speculate that.
1) Ozzy does beat Christine
2) Cochran does remain loyal
3) Albert is the one sent packing as targetted by Savaii
4) Whoever on Savaii that is targetted will use Ozzy's II

Now we just need to wait til we get Maxx Fisher's spoiling info on Friday or Saturday to see if they are right, or not!

Ginger Note: And Albert will be a hard one to beat at RI....

Goddessatlaw
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Yay!!!

Stormie
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I wish there were some accurate information, bc if it's true that Ozzie won over Christine and everyone else sent to RIsland, then returned, and Cochran became a follower, then this season will have exceeded the predictable borefest that it is to me now.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Isn't Albert on Upolu????

Kookliebird
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Hmmmm, interesting information so far.
So, it sounds like "trojan horse" plan works. If Albert goes to RI and Savaii (Ozzy's team) has the numbers, they can keep sending Upolu's to RI, one after another.

I hope I got those teams straight.

Roxip
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
That sounds right to me.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Dipo ... yes, Albert is on Upolu. The speculators at Survivor Blows think the Upolus will target somebody, who Cochran and Ozzy, as moles will know about, and that person will use Ozzy's Hidden II.....which means whoever the Savaii's voted against will be gone. They are speculating that person will be Albert (the strongest and biggest threat at Upolu).

Kooklie ... the problem I have with what you said is that Coach will still have a hidden II to play. Once he sees that he was had by Ozzy and/or Cochran and/or the rest of the Savaii's, I would think he would want to use his II to protect Upolu (not just himself) and that might even the numbers up again. And, if the speculators are right, and Albert is at RI, he can probably beat Cochran or Dawn or maybe even Whitney with ease if they get sent to RI. I would think if Albert is sent by a ricochet vote from the Savaii's, if he were to get back in the game later, he would probably be loyal to the Upolu. (just saying)

We will have, what I consider, accurate info on Saturday Stormie!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The episode title is "Double Agent"
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CBS PR
"Double agent"

With a potential Merge on the horizon, one tribe puts on an elaborate show in hopes of gaining the upper hand on their competition, and an unlikely castaway holds all the power at a game-changing Tribal Council, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday Nov. 2nd (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT)

Holly
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07-21-2001

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Ginger, once the tribes merge, doesn't the person on RI come back and that's the end of RI for the season?

Lexie_girl
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Stand up and get crunk

Ginger, why would they be merging this week with 11 players left? I thought the merge was at 10.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Holly, that's what I remember hearing, too. It's different than last season.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Holly ... I'm going to have to check that out. I thought last season that they had somebody come back at the merge, and then somebody come back at the end...........I'm not sure about this season....so I'll go on a little scavenger hunt for you.

Lexie ... sometimes the merge has been at 12. The players seem to think the merge is coming. Maxx Fisher has let it be spoiled that they are merging after this next RI challenge ... see my 10/27, 6:02 am post!

ETA (Edited to Add) --- this is all I found over at Survivor Fever regarding information that has been put out about RI.

The Redemption Island twist is back: There will be one major change to it, with the elimination of group duels — meaning each competition will truly be a win-or-go-home situation (as opposed to last season, in which players often simply did not have to come in last to stay alive). “We’re not having multi-person duels,” says Probst.

Ginger Note: That doesn't say anything about not having the 2nd player return towards the end of the season. If I see anything else, I'll bring it over.


Holly
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ginger

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
(LOL) I was editing my above post when you were posting, so check out that bottom part.

Okay ... I just checked the calendar over at TDT (True Dork Times) and they show that on Day 36 (out of 39) the last duel will be fought at RI and the winner will return to the game.

So......I think that pretty much answers it.

I believe there were a couple of invalid spoilers earlier this season who hyped a few incorrect things and have been completely ignored since their project boot lists were proved wrong at the 1st to 3rd boots. Maybe that other info came from there.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Oh yeah, I forgot about Coach's HII.

Holly
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
So that means then that Ozzy, if he wins the duels, will be there until Day 36? So that just blows their idea out of the water...his tribe will have Cochran playing in future immunity challenges instead of Ozzy . There'll probably be no tribe for him to go back to then!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Holly...no....2 people returned from Redemption Island. Matt at the merge and then whomever on day 36.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Thanks I understand now, LOL.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes ... either Ozzy or Christine will be returning in Episode 8, on November 2. Maxx has already given us a preview spoiler and told us that they do merge. Right now there are 5 on Savaii and 6 on Upolu with 2 at RI. Whoever loses at RI will walk, and whoever wins will return to the game, merging with 12 people.

The confusion will be who is on first and who is on second (LOL). Ozzy, (if he is the one returning) will be trying to act mad at Savaii, and Cochran infiltrating as a potential swing.
That's the way it looks right now.

Later in the season, on Day 36, another player will be returning from RI.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Although, I find it very hard to believe....
that Ozzy's acting will be very convincing. He needs to learn that 'less is more' when talking.