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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Phil (or Phile as Ralph would spell his name) is way stealthier than Coach, lol!

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I can't really think of one person I would like to see back.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I can't believe that no one has mentioned the touching scene where they burned Phil's famous pink underwear.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
I'm like you, Cinnamon. It's weird tho how we can see the same exact show and hear 2 totally different things such as Rob's arrogant, demeaning, snide and rude comments about the fellow players during his confessionals. Others thought he was kind and even humble. Yes, he called them idiots prior to the last show, as well.

I'm not so sure that Phillip knew how he came across to the viewing public. It's been my experience with people who have problems are unable to see things with "sane" eyes. It's almost like the tv show The Munsters where are the uglyish/creepy munsters thought their cousin/niece was ugly and to be pitied where she was actually quite beautiful and non munstery at all.

2 of the final 3 girls explained why they couldn't vote out Rob which was because they knew he had the hidden immunity idol.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my fav exit interview site, RealitytvWorld:

'Survivor' winner Rob Mariano: I think Julie Wolfe totally crossed the line
RealitytvWorld

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
Rob has definitely changed his play over the years. I liked him from the first season, but he played so much subtler this year. He used to entertain me with his brash manner, but this year I enjoyed that he played the game on all levels. I agree with Phil that it was close to a perfect game. It was the ability to perform in both the mental and the physical challenges, the relationship building and the mental manipulation, and a lot of good timing and luck. I think even he was a bit in awe of it all!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I've looked for interviews of the other 7 castaways that were left standing but haven't found any of them. I'd particularly like to hear why Grant feels betrayed by Rob. And I'm wondering if Phil spends entire interviews talking about his stealthiness and former federal agent status.

I have never seen two castaways bone the final interview like Phil and Natalie did last night. I'm still shaking my head. The jury members were looking for any reason at all to vote for someone besides Rob, and Phil and Natalie basically sat there and said "you have to vote for Rob, we're not going to let you off the hook."

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I don't know Justalittlebean, Phillip was never chased by pygmies.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Thanks for your reply Debra. Kinda makes sense that his son would be in military school. But why wouldn't he have access to the show, eps can been seen online as well as on tv? Makes no sense, eh?

Debra
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11-20-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
Phillip said something about the school didn't allow them to watch.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Why wouldn't they? Are they not allowed to watch TV in general? I just find it odd. But I figure that his son may have still received some kind of negative backlash through the grapevine and that's why Phil seemed so sad last night. ...

just speculating here...

Beth4freedom
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10-24-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beth4freedom a private message Print Post    
Goddessatlaw, you said: "I'd particularly like to hear why Grant feels betrayed by Rob."

Well, I don't know from Grant's side, but this is part of an interview with Rob:
"...the phone calls and text messages kind of stopped after the episode where it showed me taking the clue and switching it out on him. I don’t know if there was an embarrassment level, or the fact that he got played or schooled — I don’t know if his buddies were giving him a hard time and ribbing him. I don’t know. It’s unfortunate but what can you do, man?"
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/05/16/survivor-redemption-island-boston-rob-mariano/

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I might react the same way Grant did if someone professed to be my friend...and then I find out they thought of me as an idiot the whole time. I probably wouldn't trust them or want them in my life either.

I'm kinda glad Rob won this year....because now maybe he won't be in any more seasons and I can enjoy Survivor again. Rob was the only bad part of this season for me...too bad he was the WHOLE show.

No more Rob shows...PLEASE...

Triciatoronto
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07-04-2010

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Triciatoronto a private message Print Post    
Kep, I don't think that Rob thought of Grant as an idiot the whole time. In fact, he seemed to be very genuine about his friendship with Grant and knew he had a tough choice to make when it came time for Grant to go.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think Rob's use of the term "idiot" is more of a pattern of speech from his background...I would suspect he substituted that word in lieu of a more colorful adjective.

I think Grant needs to get over it. He should realize that Rob came out there to win this game...because it certainly isn't that much fun to sit around and sweat and starve for 39 days! Grant has no way of knowing what choices he would have made in the last week if he had been in the same position as Rob.

Nickovtyme
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07-28-2004

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I've never been a big Boston Rob fan. You may remember me from previous threads titled "Boston Rob...is he really all that?" and the classic "Boston Rob...its time for him to go!"

I guess the turning point for me was Heroes vs. Villians when Rob, who participated as a Villian, showed more passion and heroics than any of the stinking Heroes on that season.

So...I give Rob his due and was rather happy that finally he was able to pull it off. For once, he hadn't turned the bitter jury against him AND gave them really no other option.

It took him 4 seasons, multiple other reality shows, a marriage and 2 kids...but he finally got it right.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
What they didn't show us...

Listening to a podcast and Andrea mentioned how Rob and Grant put on a nightly campfire "talk show" with the girls in the audience. She said they did so many fun things together. It stinks that we never saw any of this. They had to focus so much time on those darn pink undies.

Do we know why the producers did not let us see Rob showing the girls his immunity idol?

I wondered why no one asked what they would do with the money (as they usually do) but she said Mike did ask. We just didn't see it. They have to tell the producers what their questions are beforehand and they have to approve.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I don't see any indication that Grant is really obsessed with Rob so maybe there is nothing to "get over". After watching the show, maybe Grant didn't like what he saw in Rob and decided he didn't *have* to be Rob's buddy. Some people just aren't Rob fans.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Had we seen that Rob had told the girls he had the idol, then they couldn't have let the viewers have a tad bit of suspense as to whether Andrea, Ashley and Natalie was going to attempt to blindside Rob. When in reality, they could have gotten rid of Phillip, but they were too afraid of Rob's wrath.

March
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10-02-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send March a private message Print Post    
2 of the final 3 girls explained why they couldn't vote out Rob which was because they knew he had the hidden immunity idol.

I thought that was such a cop out answer. Ever heard of a blindside girls? That wasn't the one and only TC available where they could have voted him out and didn't.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Grant's face, behavior, demeanor at the live show all told me that Grant is still very upset over Rob. So, yes, I think there's clearly something there to "get over". That doesn't mean he has to be Rob's buddy. He has the right to choose that. But his body language said loud and clear that he was still very hurt and appears to be holding a grudge. We don't tend to hold grudges against people that don't matter to us any longer.

I wonder too March -- did they not ever talk about blindsiding Rob? People have gone home with an idol in their pocket before!

Saggkl
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Saggkl a private message Print Post    
If anyone is still reading this .. where do you get those cute little animal animations? thanks

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
How can you blindside someone who has the immunity idol? (and played it as we saw)and in this particular case was speaking of the question Jeff posted at the reunion where we as viewers didn't know Rob had the idol but by asking that question Natalie was then able to let the viewers know that they had indeed known Rob had the idol.

Colordeagua
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10-24-2003

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
We don't tend to hold grudges against people that don't matter to us any longer.

So true. I often think of that relative to myself -- if I'm curious about, mad at, interested in what a person does or says, then that person matters in some way to me.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Tuesday, May 17, 2011 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Saggkl, if you're speaking about the emoticons, it's right above the post message box where the little yellow smiley is. You make be speaking of clip art, which is something totally different and I'm not savvy enough to explain it. Maybe someone else could help you.