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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The TV Guide says November 24th episode will be a recrap episode. So ... now we know!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
WooHoo, This is all very interesting. Don't remember seeing anything about it earlier. Thanks to poster KiKi over at Survivor Blows for gathering all the postings from Survivor Sucks, cause I might not have checked there during Thanksgiving week.
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KiKi Posted:
Missyae has said that Sash does something really bad and it will never be shown because when it happened at TC, Jeff stopped the cameras from rolling. He also states that Sash doesn't get any votes.
Missyae:
I don't think they will show it because they stopped the cameras from rolling.
You know something happened for 2 reasons.
1. He played too good of a game to not get a vote.
2. I told you there was a controversy.

and later:
MS Warrior wrote:
missyae,
When does this thing happen? At camp or at TC.
Missyae:
TC, Jeff stops TC and shuts off the cameras and calls for the producer.
That's it gang.
Maybe since they read all my postings they will figure out how to show it. Tough when you stop the cameras though.
I just don't see them showing it, I really dont.
It was made out to be, "who do you believe"?
When they voted, we saw who they believed.
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KiKi posted:
And this "thing" that missyae will not tell us now, but might tell us after the season is over, is not the fact that he tried to get Kelly S. to work the jury for him:
Missyae:
If anyone tells you he tried to get Kelly S to work the jury for him, that is true too, but that is not it.

KiKi Posted:
In the Sash thread, missyae posted this confirming that Sash gets no votes - re: Sash's being friends on FB with most of the cast:
Seems to be pretty useless at camp, useless in challenges, and when he gets Zero votes to win, I guess it shows they didn't like him too much, HUH?

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Coldnights posted this very strange question:
Missyae, can you answer a vague question? The whole Sash thing, coverup, don't want to talk about it, so evil shall not be named, Voldermort was because:
1) Hitler invaded Poland
2) Nero was an immoral a**hole
3) Amelia Earhart wasn't a good pilot
4) Napoleon was short
5) Spandex sucks
6) Les Mis is overblown
7) The Roadrunner actually died the first time the Coyote tried to kill him.
Anyway, you could provide a vague answer based upon this vague question? I mean - what is the possibly closest answer to the reality of this annoying juicy tidbit that you have exposed us to? All you have to do is pick the possible closest number based upon your interpretation of history. Pick a number, please!
Missyae responded:
When I 'first' started releasing stuff about this season I mentioned a number of 'firsts'. The final 3 were very aware they would be the 'first' all male final 3. This deal with Sash could have been another 'first' had they not ignored it, or sided with the other person involved. I doubt it is the 'first' time they have bent the rules though as so many of you have already mentioned. I guess they enforce the ones they want to and ignore the ones they want to.
Coldnights, change your #2 to end with the word 'a$$clown' instead and I will go with that one. I prefer the word 'a$$clown' though.

KiKi Posted:
And this was a later exchange:
Coldnights wrote:
Missyae, the way you describe it, sounds like Survivor may have potentially seriously damaged its own franchise. And if so, they should sell it, to someone that still loves the game.
Missyae:
I think they are risking damage by not showing it and trying to tuck it under the rug. But they can't really show it unless they edit it to look like it was just BS and he was innocent. They can make it appear that way at first, but when the jury votes on the final 3, people are gonna wonder, HUH, why didn't he get any votes, he played a great game? Their problem is, they cannot show the truth because people will not like how it was handled. So they really have a problem on their hands now. Maybe they thought it would not get out. Maybe they thought their talk with everyone around that night would work. I don't know. I just know it's true. Oh it's damn true.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Rumors ... Rumors ... Rumors!!!

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Appears that posters are thinking the "no no" that Sash was guilty of was offering money to somebody that would be on the jury to vote for him for the "win". This is not confirmed...just
highly speculated. The other person is supposed to have ratted on him. Must have been at a TC, from all we read up above.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Woo hoo ...

Good times and I hope it comes out!!

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




wow-I was wondering what the heck it could have been. Ginger - thank you so much for all this juicy stuff, it truly makes the season more interesting. I couldn't even explain it all to someone if they asked...LOL

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Talking about having to 'splain it!!! Just think....
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I have to find stuff, and then figure out whether it goes in the episode thread or the season thread. Then, if it is in the season thread, I have to go back and try to find it when the episode thread comes up to date. And I ain't getting any younger..........(LOL)

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I appreciate the spoiliing hard work you do for us Ginger! Thank you!!!!!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
On a side note
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One of the newer spoiling posters ... somebody that is spoiling contestants for Season 22, said something about CBS has started to sue spoilers. Thank Goodness I'm not a spoiler, just somebody that finds spoiling others have done and bring it over for you guys so you don't have to go all over the web looking for it. I have no source. I have no way to spoil. I'm just a copy-cat...........or, maybe I should say, a copy-grandma!!!

Glad you appreciate Denecee!!!...TY

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Yes Ginger, your spoiling is very appreciated.

I don't see how they can sue someone who just reports what they've figured out from public sightings and photos. They can sue someone who is connected to the show who gives out information. A non-disclosure must be included in their contracts.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I agree Mama.........Guess it all depends on what they mean by spoiler. Spoiler to them might be an employee who leaks; whereas, I call a spoiler somebody who gives credible information, regardless of where it came from. Missyae seems to have been right on the target most of the time. Sometimes he gives his opinions mixed in, or readers misunderstand what he has said, or he has misunderstood what his source said....but 95% or more of the time, he is right on the money.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 1:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Talked to my Sis tonite.............

She's been trying to read the spoilers. Sis posited this idea. Sash has many pals on the Jury that respect his gameplay - Brenda, Nakoma, Marty etc. HOW could he receive no votes?

What IF Sash did try to buy off one or more of the votes? Everyone blabs, like at camp or Ponderosa. What IF Jeff stops the cameras, calls in Production, then says "You can NOT vote for Sash because of his badness". You can ONLY vote for these other two people. Would explain how Sash got nothing and CBS sure wouldn't want anything shown for potential later fallout.

Hey, look at all the fallout of DWTS this week that their game's been rigged. Survivor really HAS to keep their credibility or their show is also toast.

Happy Thanksgiving Sis! Great ideas!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
And I bet we never hear a word about it and they hope most viewers walk away wondering why Sash did not get a single vote. That all makes sense to me, too, "Sis". (LOL)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Another spoiler from Missyae --- regarding the F6 TC:
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Missyae has confirmed that Jane rats out Sash at the TC where she goes home.

....The person who rats on Sash is Jane. This happens the night she gets booted if I remember right. She had already put their fire out for the first time all season. They set a Survivor record for most straight days keeping a fire going. Jane took a bucket of water and put it out. She was also mad at her boy Chase for not using his idol to save his Tar Heel buddy. So Jane opened up a can of kick ##### that night at TC.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Missyae is a he? I have thought Missyae was a she. In fact I thought it was Russell's wife... ????

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Last year that rumor was out, but has since been proven wrong. Definitely not Russell's wife.

I originally thought female because of the Missy, so I always said "she". Then, later when I was confused, I started saying "he/she". Mostly now, in posts at Sucks, Blows, Skills and TDT I see he, but since I'm not sure, I try to say "he/she" still.........but I'm pretty convinced at this point that it is a male.

The reason is because Missyae has said certain things about certain female Survivors being hot, and other things along that line that make me think it is a male.

Until I actually see Missyae in person say "I'm a female" or "I'm a male", I will not be sure. But it is not Russell's wife. That was disproved many months ago.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Thanks Ginger!

and Happy Thanksgiving to ALL!

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Remember in the olden days, Survivor would put a sort of glow or halo around whoever would be the winner, as they did with Ethan in Africa (I think)
Look closely at this season's photos. Jane is plainly glowing.
But according to the spoilers, it is three of the young men who are final three.
Hmmmmm.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Ooooh! Ooooh! Ooooh! This thing is really heating up:
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Missyae gave it up! Sash offered to pay Jane's mortgage in exchange for her vote:

Missyae: It's really absurd to try and intimidate and sue a spoiler when you spoil most the crapfest yourself. If you had better editors you would have done a much better job this season with you even moving to a crappy Wednesday night. If you had balls you would show how Sash offers to pay Jane's mortgage if she will vote for him and help him with the jury. But instead you won't show it, you will sweep it under the rug. Why else did Jeff holler, "cut the cameras and get the producer in here NOW" So you talk it over, resume filming and what happens???? Well the jury obviously believed Jane especially when Sash had already 'brainwashed' Kelly S into voting for him. Too bad once she got to Ponderosa, she woke up. Hi ADUMB! Hi MB!!! I know, I know, you are so pissed off at me, I get that. F U

Ginger: In a subsequent post, Missyae was quoted as saying he has the "lawsuit" to prove it, so sounds like CBS is sueing Missyae, probably the source of Missyae, and who knows who else ...
which probably explains why Missyae is sounding off at everybody in the above quote.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Okay, what I don't understand is why the producers want to hide such an earth-shattering event in the game from the viewers! I am sure sure an offer is against the rules, so they should just kick Sash's b--t out of th game, but this is a unique Survivor moment!

We hang with the show through its low points, and then the PTB want to deprive us of high drama?!? How is that fair?!?

Sooooo, can someone explain - or make a guess - WHY the producers wanted to keep this quiet?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I can take guesses ... but they would only be guesses:
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1 - Somewhere I had posted a bunch of stuff, or at least a link, about the contractual stuff...and all over the place, it says at the producer's discretion. So, they call the shots, and call them how they best think it suits them.
2 - Naonka and Purple Kelly will have already been quitters by this time, plus another TC with Benry getting the boot, and then it will be the next TC that all this Sash stuff goes down. That's two weeks to us, but only 6 days to them.
Allowing two quitters to be on the jury, already has them up this season for scrutiny, so maybe they didn't want any more.
3 - We do not know if Sash denies it or not. If he denies it, it is his word against Jane's. Somebody at Survivor Blows stated (and it made sense to me) that if one person says something and another denies it, and it is not on tape anywhere, they could not make a case for it anyway to call the person out. If so, this poster said, all anybody had to do in the future would be to start false accusations to get a threat knocked off the show.

Since we aren't going to get to see it anyway, we will never know if Sash denied it or not, plus we will not know if they did or did not have it on tape.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Zippidy dooo daaaaaaaah... zippidy daaaaaay
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Ginger - does this incident with Sash and Jane happen at TC?

Bbpeach
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07-06-2005

Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bbpeach a private message Print Post    
The only thing I can think is that when Jane brings it up at TC, either she or Sash in their argument to prove themself right, says something like "Don't lie, it's on tape, just ask "soandso" (the cameraman)." Maybe even talking about the producers or production and accusing them of favoring one over the other. I don't know why that part just couldn't be edited out, but I can't think of any other reason that the cameras would have to be cut. Perhaps they're worried about a lawsuit of some kind and don't want there to be any potential evidence of wrong-doing out there to be had.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yep, Lexie!

See my post for 11/25 at 5:57 am........

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 03, 2010 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
For Pamy ... and anybody else that wants to know:
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12/8 - boot Benry
12/15 - family visit - boot Jane - she is mad enough to douse fire at camp before they go to TC since she was the one who originally set it.
12/19 - finale - starts with 5 players
first boot - Dan
second boot - Holly (Jud has immunity and supposedly Sash and Chase play their idols.) Missyae only said that Holly doesn't like idols, so the speculation here would be that Sash and Chase play them. I didn't think you could play them at the F4 stage, so I'm a bit confused on this speculation.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, December 03, 2010 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Whoopee Ginger! Thanks a million!

My Sis & Brother (both Survivor/TAR fans) are flying in Dec. 15th afternoon. I was sad because I thought the season would be over before, but now I see we get to watch the last two shows together and they look to be lively boots too. So much more fun.