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Nino
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09-20-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nino a private message Print Post    
I'm so happy Rob finally won! I was pulling for him from day 1! He outplayed everyone else and deserves the prize! Actually, Philip grew on me about halfway through the season. Strange, yes, but he entertained me.

Julie and Steve were so unnecessarily snotty to Phil and Natalie. I felt bad for Philip when Steve was dressing him down like some child or something! I wanted to punch Steve and Julie's lights out for being so bitter and hateful. Lol.

Redemption Island needs to be revamped for sure. Oh, and Matt did get on my nerves with his "Bible School"! I'm as much of a Christian as Matt, but why would God be more interested in helping me win money than in helping the others to win. I would have given the $100,000 to Philip, if I were a voting person.

I swear, I heard Carolina drop the "F" bomb when David proposed to her!! They bleeped her second curse word, but I know I heard her say "What the f*** or shut the f*** up!

A great season and I can't wait for season 23!

Tiernet
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06-07-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tiernet a private message Print Post    
How did they mix the tribes at the start. I think they were already divided, then when Rob and Russell came in they drew buffs.

Because, the one tribe definitely was more independent thinking than the other. Did they do this on purpose??

In other words it seams as though the makeup of the one tribe was setup for the pickings for an experienced person to come in and guide/manipulate them.

Just my two cents...

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
If Zap did not want to be Pagonged, they should have won more challenges. Their own fault. Maybe Phillip was an agent until he flipped out from drugs or Post Stress Disorder? Rob should have won TAR-why would a plane come back to the gate to pick up the other couple when there was another flight in a few hours? Great job Rob.

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelb724 a private message Print Post    
Thanks for spoiling! I fell asleep before it was over, but one of the reasons I stay up is to find out where the next Survivor is going to be? Does anyone know? Thanks1

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Connies - I thought Phillip looked kind of . . . medicated . . . last night. Although he perked up and showed some of the old crazy here and there. I appreciated his apology to Steve, that situation was truly unwarranted.

And he really does have beautiful eyes. He cleans up well.

Grant on the other hand - I didn't recognize him when he left the game. He needs to go back to the grungy, tough and silent type.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Shelb, they said something very vague about the South Pacific if I remember correctly. Plus two past Survivors reentering the game. Sigh.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I thought I heard Carolina say something like "Shut it down. Shut it down now." as soon as David started coming towards her. It didn't seem like she really wanted him to propose to her there. I'm sure I heard her say "Shut the (something)". I thought she said "Shut the front door" the way some poeple do when they can't say "Shut the eff up". She definitely seemed distressed instead of thrilled.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Can anyone who is on the "Rob had huge advantages" train please explain what the advantages were? I just see his history as being a gigantic red target, and those who had the bows and arrows to shoot the target were idiots



His advantages were that he's played 4 times. Thats HUGE. He knows its not all physical but so much to do with people skills. He worked his tribe from day 1. ANd they were total idiots for following and not having a thought of their own. He owned the game. He deserved to win because of their stupidity. Russell doesn't have people skills, therefore he was ousted pretty quickly. Rob knew what he had to do and he did it...expertly. He sure wasn't this good his first time out....not even close. So yes, he went in with a way better understanding of the game IMO. I think he would have had a bigger target on his back had he been with the other team to start.

As for Grant.... He voted for Rob so how bitter can he be? It wasn't til the show started airing and he could see the insulting remarks Rob made to the camera during his confessionals (some of those confessionals were pretty mean) and yeah, he's hurt. He was made a fool of....just like the rest of the tribe. I'm sure they cringed as they all watched the season and saw what really happened (and Robs confessionals). They were owned from Day 1. I like Grant, he'll be fine...its gonna smart for a bit though.

Natalie, as sweet and innocent as she was, did not deserve to win. She was Robs luxury item as someone posted above. She got farther than most but that was Robs doing, not hers.

Philip..wow, what can I say. I feel so badly for his son cuz you just know he's had a tough time with his dad being on this show..how could he not? I felt Steve & Julie were incredibly and unneccesarily mean spirited with Philip & Natalie both. Boo to them. I loved that Philip apologized about the race thing though. Good for him.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Nerovh, that proposal just made me cringe. But they all do. Boogie's (particularly!!), Robfather's, all of them. I just do not want to see a proposal on live television.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Russell Hantz has landed a series with A & E called "Flipped." There is no justice in the world of reality television.

I won't be watching

Hollywood Reporter

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
ditto on that post, Goddessatlaw!! I thought it was embarrassing at best. lol

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Flipping houses in this housing market... alrighty then. As long as he's not on a show I have to watch (clearly I have to watch Survivor :-)) then good luck to him!

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Hearing about "Flipped" with Hantz almost makes me glad I don't have cable.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Someone at Reality Blurred says that the hotel they used when filming Survivor: Samoa is booked for this summer, so that's when they think they'll be filming.

I think this is excellent news because if they haven't filmed yet they know the viewer reaction to Redemption Island, and they'll be able to revamp it to not make it quite as ... stupid ;).

Here's the article.

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/survivor_south_pacific/2011_Apr_02_hotel_booked

The hotel is booked from May 16 to September 16.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Russell is years late for getting into the house flipping business. It used to be a very lucrative thing to do but with the housing market like it is, not so much. If he loses a tankload of money, who will he blame?

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Rob.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the info Kitt, I hope they do fix the Redemption island twist along with the fan fav issue.

LOL at Herminone

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Denecee, I experienced a ridiculous level of second-hand shame over the proposal. From the awkward play in to it, to What's-His-Nut's stilted dialogue, to What's-Her-Nut's reaction (like a cat who wants to be put down NOW except with profanities). It was awful.

Missyb
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07-28-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Missyb a private message Print Post    
I think I big advantage that Rob has is that he knows deep down inside that whatever hurts the other players may have at game time or right after, disappear shortly after the Survivor Finale. With all the press tours, conventions, internet forums, players see the writing on the wall and make amends, They see it is only a game and that they are part of a big family. The probably see that they should have played differently. Eventually, most become very good friends and support each other in charity endeavors and many other individual things.
During jury questioning when Natalie was getting "beat up" Rob whispered to her, don't worry, it will all blow over in a week, or something close to that.
That is valuable knowledge. To know that you don't have to be best of friends right now in the middle of the game, that it can come later.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Jimmer's comment about Rob not manipulating Natalie. I didn't see any manipulation. He was straight with her -- do as I say and I will take you to the finals with me. I don't feel she was manipulated, I feel she was carried. Different IMO.

RE: Grant. I hope he does get over his bitterness. Was disappointed that he's still cold to Rob. As an NFL player you would think he would understand on the field play, versus off the field. Rob does, and I guess that comes with experience. Rob saw the entire game as "on the field". Even though you are living with others, it was all still gametime. Whereas Grant seemed to think if was off-the-field friendship time. I would hope a pro athlete would be able to separate the two a bit better.

Did anyone catch the early show? I was hoping they'd talk to Amber last night. Yes, I would have rather heard from her that see that embarassing proposal!

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Hukd - Flipping is very lucrative right now. You can't beat the prices that you can find homes for. Instead of reselling them, you're able to rent them at a decent price and wait out the market. Lots of people who were not able to do it before are able to do so now. Having said that I won't watch Hantz do it, can't stand him.

I was really happy that Rob won and enjoyed when he told Natalie, "don't worry they'll all be smiling later" I'm sure referring to when they all go to Ponderosa after the voting is done. I didn't see any manipulation of Natalie at all. Rob did have to manipulate Phillip.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I have the early show recorded but of course haven't watched yet. There is a good interview with Rob on eonline...talks about how he lied to Amber...he told her he went out in final 4 and she believed him. It is really cute and kind of makes it special that she didn't know he won either.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Maybe flipping and renting works where others live, but we can't even give houses away here in New York state. It's an absolutely horrible market, and renting more often than not results in homes stripped of their innards and no rent being paid. People can stay in their rented homes without paying rent, regardless of what a contract says. The courts to get people evicted are so overflowing that it can take a year to get rid of a tenant. New York state is going to hell in a handbasket

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
"Can anyone who is on the "Rob had huge advantages" train please explain what the advantages were? I just see his history as being a gigantic red target, and those who had the bows and arrows to shoot the target were idiots"

I agree, they were idiots, but the problem was - they were star struck idiots! The fact is, Boston Rob is a celebrity (even more so for to Survivor fans) and his tribe fawned over him and deferred to him and served him like a bunch of groupies. They carried him to the end because of his celebrity status and, as he constantly reminded us on the reunion show last night, he had 10 years of being a celebrity, which was a decade to learn how to use his celebrity status to his advantage.

I'll bet he worms his way to the front of lines everywhere he goes and he probably usually gets a table right away at restaurants, too.

I was so fed up seeing that guy on Survivor again. I wonder...how many other players would win if they were given 4 chances like Boston Rob was?

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Jimmy Jones was a celebrity too, but he couldn't charm his way to the end. Rob is good with people. I think at the reunion show when he talked about finding a common ground with Philip, that really showed the side of Rob that helped him get the win. It wasn't just celebrity, it was also people skills and game skills (challenge skills).