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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 8:28 am
Opening up this thread with some predictions of things to come in Episode 2: *************************** Prior to the show airing, several spoilers have talked about the best TC in Survivor history when Shannon gets the boot. Evidently he calls out everybody on his tribe. Jeff's statement in his preview for next week says something about never having an opening question cause as much "whoop-ass" as this one did. Speculation is that the older tribe, having learned their lesson from last week, will opt to use the Medallion this week and win the Immunity Challenge. Younger tribe "La Flor" will have to go to TC, and Shannon is the boot of choice by what I am reading at TDT and Survivor Blows. When this is confirmed, rather than speculated...I'll post a follow-up. You may wonder why Shannon would be the boot choice, and supposedly it has something to do with his big statement in Episode 1 about having a male alliance get rid of the women as he is tired of a woman winning Survivor. Chase mentioned it to Brenda, without naming anybody, but I think it will be figured out.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 11:07 am
Here's Jeff's Blog for the Premiere Episode: ****************************** Hello Survivor fans! Hello Jimmy Johnson!! Hello Wednesday night!! Episode one of our 21st season is complete and it turns out Wendy’s husband was right. More on that later… I’m very curious to see how the audience responds to having Jimmy Johnson on the show. If you’re reading this blog, you’re probably old enough to know that Jimmy is one of the most successful football coaches in the history of the game — both college and the NFL. Even if you’re younger, but still a football fan, then you no doubt know him as one of the most colorful Pro football analysts on television. I’m happy to say that I now know him as a Survivor contestant. Jimmy was not recruited as some sort of a “stunt casting” idea. Jimmy applied…on his own… three times to be on the show. As he said himself, he hasn’t missed a second of the show… ever. The first two times he applied he didn’t pass his physical so he was turned down. But this time he not only passed his physical, he made it on the show! The very first thing I noticed was the jealousy that Marty and Jimmy T have for Coach Jimmy. The younger guys would have loved to hang out with one of the greatest football legends of all time because they weren’t threatened. Marty was threatened. Immediately. Curious how our egos work. If I was in the game, maybe I would have felt the same way, who knows. But right now Marty and Jimmy T seem more concerned with Jimmy Johnson than they do anything else. That is not a good sign for the older group. OPENING SCRAMBLE We are always looking for ways to ignite the opening moments of a season and the idea this year centered around finding the Medallion of Power, or as I like to say, “The Medallion of POWWWWWWWWWWER!” INSIGHT: From a production point of view here is the dilemma with an opening scramble that involves looking for something that is hidden: You want to be able to film whomever finds the Medallion so that means you need to have plenty of camera operators near the location of the Medallion. But if you put the camera operators all in one spot then you are giving away where the Medallion is located. So.. we set up fake camera jibs, and brought in extra operators and put them on scaffolding and stationed them in various spots so that even the savvy player would not be able to figure out where the Medallion was hidden simply by studying the camera positions. It worked. The contestants scattered all different ways and Brenda was the one who spotted it sitting up in a tree and snagged it for her tribe. OLD V YOUNG This idea to divide Old v Young came straight from casting. Once we had Jimmy J, Jimmy T (from a Sears sponsored contestant search), Jane (the woman who started fiiiiiire!) and Marty we knew we had the beginnings of a great older tribe. So we just went with it and from that point forward we knew we had to create two tribes – one old, one young – that were as equal as they could be given the age difference. INSTANT STAND OUTS The game is young but here is who popped out to me right away: OLDER TRIBE JIMMY T: “I just gotta say this… I’m not gonna be not be heard here, I’m not gonna be not be heard.” I love this guy. He won a Sears casting contest to get on the show and has already delivered as much of a wallop as a box full of their Craftsman tools. He is going to have to cool it though if he wants to last long. Jimmy, sometimes you are going to have to “not be, not be heard.” In your case, it might be a good thing if they don’t always hear you. HOLLY makes me smile and laugh and tilt my head like a dog all at the same time. She’s a bit of an enigma to me at this point, but I know I like having her on the show. From the moment we met her in casting I felt there was a lot more going on than meets the eye. JANE! You gotta love a woman who can start fire! Jane is tailor made for this show. She is no-nonsense, has a great work ethic and she personifies the idea of “where there is a will, there is a way.” MARTY is a villain. He won’t see it that way and he’s probably already mad at me for saying this, but right out of the gate, he is a villain. Thankfully… Survivor loves villains! YOUNGER TRIBE: SHANNON is fortunately…or unfortunately… the type of guy who often ends up on a reality show these days. He’s a muscular, good looking, hot headed “dude” who it turns out is a pretty funny interview: *”It’s important we don’t let these girls take over. I mean we already getting owned in marriage. Pretty soon we’ll have a woman President.” * “He’s just a dumb blonde. I’ve never called a guy a dumb blonde before, but that’s what he is.” * “A guy needs to sack up and we need to win this.” SASH – it’s not so much what Sash says, it’s how he says it and how he looks when he says it. I hope he’s around a long time. FABIO is perhaps my favorite. I am a huge fan of Fast Times At Ridgemont High and Fabio is Survivor’s version of Jeff Spicoli who was played beautifully by Sean Penn. If you have never seen that movie, it’s worth a watch. Hilarious. Whether it’s the massive splinter he got in his arch moments into the show or the pincher on the finger, he’s funny. Best of all, he seems to have a really good sense of humor about himself. You gotta like that. KELLY B, not to be confused with PURPLE KELLY is obviously an inspiration but that will not be enough to get her through 39 days. Her tribe is already targeting her.. not because they think she can win challenges, or will be great at the social game, or because she is crafty at tribal council. They’re voting her out because she has an artificial leg and it makes them uncomfortable because they think she’ll garner too much sympathy. We humans are a nutty group. Certainly this group, anyway! Not one person has even considered the idea of “I wonder how she’ll do…” or… “I’d love to see what she can achieve in the challenges.” Nope. This is a cut-throat game for a million dollars. It’s survival of the fittest. Little do they know she has accomplished more athletic achievements than most all of them combined. NAONKA.. relax. I didn’t forget about you. You’re pretty hard to forget. Yeah, I know. You already know that. Naonka will become more polarizing the longer she lasts in the game. You will either respect her honesty or absolutely despise her. One thing is certain people will have an opinion. She already knows that too. FIRST CHALLENGE The older tribe had the Medallion of Power and they decided not to use it. They’ll tell you they were smart to not use it because it wouldn’t have made a difference. While that is probably true, most of their confidence comes from back seat driving, or better yet, Monday morning quarterbacking because the challenge didn’t play out quite as planned. Let me explain… INSIGHT: Despite testing our first challenge over and over, the Survivors did something that we didn’t count on. We expected the gutters to go from left to right, back and forth, because that is how the challenge was built to play. Instead, they simply formed one long gutter system, and it worked much better than what we had planned. As a result the challenge went much faster and because of that it reduced the amount of an ‘advantage” they would have had. Would the Medallion advantage have made enough difference for them to win? We’ll never know. But had the challenge been played the way it was tested and rehearsed, it most definitely would have made a difference. If they resist using the Medallion of Power next challenge then we’ll know they’re not smart, just foolish. TRIBAL COUNCIL First of all did you catch what Jane said!? She said she read an article in which I talked about the importance of making fire… and she listened! Who listens to anything I say? I’m an idiot. Never listen to me. I’m rarely right. I mean it. Especially when it comes to driving directions. If I say -“go right” – you should always “go left.” And when you turn left, invariably, I’ll tell you, “No, really this time I am pretty sure it really is right.” Don’t do it. Close the ears and put the pedal to the metal because it’s left all the way. Nonetheless, Jane listened and she learned how to make fire and whadaya know it paid off big time for the older tribe. I love when the Survivors have a victory. They are so few and far between. Okay now back to the older tribe’s biggest hurdle.. their ego. JIMMY T – Dude. Get off the “I am jealous of Jimmy Johnson” bandwagon. I am blown away. Blown away that Jimmy T and Marty are more concerned about being the top dog than they are about winning. Jimmy T actually said: If he (Jimmy Johnson) leads so well.. the jury will let him win the game.” You nut! If Jimmy Johnson can actually lead THAT well… let him lead you! There will be plenty of chances to cut his throat later in the game. Consider the dichotomy of the human existence for just a moment. We’ve made some amazing achievements in our time here on earth: The incredible breakthroughs we’ve made in science, the world we’re discovering under the sea, the machines we’ve built that allow us to communicate instantly all over the world, the ability to correct vision problems, reduce cholesterol, make artificial limbs and invent pocket sized cell phones! We sent a man to the moon for crying out loud.. and he came back! Hello…we invented Viagra! We’re even open to the idea of J-LO on American Idol, but we can’t get out of our own way when it comes to EGO. It’s fascinating. THE VOTE Turns out Wendy’s husband was right. As Wendy said on the show: “My husband thinks I’ll be first out.” Yep. Smart fella. Well Wendy, I hope your husband said it and meant it with love because despite the fact that you didn’t fit in with this group you are absolutely charming in your own unique way and just before the vote, you uttered my favorite line of the night: “…and I don’t have any blisters on my feet. That’s an asset. ” Sorry you left so soon, I’ll miss the accent and the hat! UNTIL NEXT WEEK If you’re feeling smart…CBS put the clue to the Hidden Idol Immunity online (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/photos/Hidden_Immunity_Idol_Clue_1/) so you can take a gander and see if you can figure it out before the Survivors do! See ya next week!
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 11:30 am
((((sigh)))) I love Jeff and his blogs.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 11:37 am
Episode 2 Immunity Challenge information taken from the TDT website (a great source): **************************** MayanSun's description (Survivor Fever) of the challenge: "4 players from each tribe run through the mud, one at a time. After getting through the mud they dive into a pile of hay and retrieve a ball that is given to an unraveler to unravel. The "unraveler" could only unravel 1 ball at a time before starting on the next ball. Unraveler tosses ball to another player who catches it with a board and flips the ball to another player who flips it to a shooter. Shooter shoots ball into a bucket and process starts over again with another ball." Spoiler missyae adds: "The older tribe will use their medallion in this challenge. They will only have to make 3 balls as opposed to 4 for the younger tribe. Ben was very confident going into this challenge as the shooter for the younger tribe. Shannon plays the role as the runner. In case of a miss he runs the ball back to the start to try again. Naonka sits out. Looks like a challenge to fit the youngsters, right?"
And, these two images seem to show a jubilant Jimmy J. and Holly from the older tribe.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 11:52 am
I'm going to guess, based on this spoiler from missyae that............... ************************** the older tribe also win the Reward Challenge in Episode 2. Spoiler - missyae: "I guess after the old folks get fishing gear next week we shall see who the real fisherman is, if it made the edit. They definitely are building up to the JJ or JT showdown and how JJ walks out the good guy and JT leaves the bad guy."
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 12:00 pm
Thanks to Survivor Fever - Pics and transcript from next week's show: ****************** Transcript: Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...
Jimmy Johnson: Fatigue makes the mind get weak.
Holly: New York city boy gang. Let's just fill his shoes up. And then... [throws shoes in water]
NaOnka: Why are you raising your voice at me? I can get loud, too. (Anger appears to be towards Fabio)
NaOnka [confessional]: I don't like a thing about him and he gets on my nerves
Jeff: 21 seasons of Survivor. Never had an opening question open that much whoop-ass
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 5:32 pm
In case anybody wants to try to solve the Hidden Immunity Clues, here's the clue and a breakdown of each. Guys over at Survivor Blows is giving it a shot. They say the one with the ship and the arm, is probably yardarm less arm = yard and I think they have that one right on.

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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Thursday, September 16, 2010 - 6:57 pm
The "H" equals 8 E = 5; J=10 so H = 8 The cave with crossed bones also indicates 8. So eight yards something... sunset or sunrise??? under a tree. Maybe eight yards away from the tree while you're facing the sunset??? Not really sure what that fan shape is meant to be.
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Misspoufy
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09-30-2004
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 4:43 am
That's either a sunrise (east) or sunset (west), I'd guess it depends upon which way their camp is facing towards the ocean.
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 6:01 am
There are two eights - eighty-eight? Sixteen?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 6:13 am
Good Mamabatsy, "H" equals 8 ... I see they got that over at Survivor Blows. Misspoufy --- Good about the sunrise or sunset. I picked this up over at Survivor Blows, but can't vouch for the validity, and I'm really terrible at solving these types of puzzles. Comments on earlier spec: "There is no visible sunrise. They're on the Pacific coast of Nicaragua, sunset only." Tnt --- nobody that I've seen yet at Blows has mentioned two eights, so you might be onto something. The other thing I picked up this morning over there is: "When the sun is over the yardarm is the traditional time for taking one's first alcoholic drink of the day. I believe it comes from when sailors would get their first grog (rum) allotment of the day. A sun is next to the yardarm, so it could conceivably be something to indicate time of day -- traditionally 11 am." Last but not least ... I read somewhere, but now can't find it, that the subsequent clues will give additional info to solve this first puzzle. Oh, and the "Under a tree" has also been guessed at as being "tree male".
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Taysmomcj
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03-24-2008
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 6:23 am
What about the bones above the cave? Is it "X" marks where you will find it or is it 10 and 8, being 18?
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 6:32 am
Ooooohhhh ......... another possibility Tay!!! The CBS Misdirection clues are out now: OVERWHELMED WITH PARANOIA, ONE CASTAWAY BEHAVES ERRATICALLY AND FINALLY REACHES A BREAKING POINT THAT THREATENS TO END THEIR GAME EARLY, ON "SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA," WEDNESDAY, SEPT. 22 "Fatigue Makes Cowards of Us All" - Tempers flare at La Flor and fights erupt as the young castaways struggle to overcome some potentially dangerous personality conflicts within the tribe. P.S. Both spoilers BW (Blackwhale) and missyae have stated now that "Shannon" is the Episode 2 boot.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 8:42 am
Pepe at Survivor Blows thinks he/she has solved the puzzle .... ********************** "Got it! X + cave + 8 notches = excavate. So... Excavate 8 yards west of the treemail site." I get it all but the west clue. That must have something to do with the sun setting in the west.
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Friend
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05-21-2008
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 10:53 am
Alaginger, I am so glad that you're on the job here. Thanks so much! Happy to see that Shannon will be the next boot. 
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Friday, September 17, 2010 - 11:16 am
You are good Ginger. That has to be right.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 8:57 am
Thanks, Friend and Mama........ ********************************** I just read over at Survivor Fever that the mud and hay and puzzle pieces is a Reward/Immunity Challenge. So there is only one challenge in Episode 2, the over 40 tribe uses their medallion for an advantage and win immunity plus fishing gear. And the boot from the under 30 tribe, confirmed to be the guy "Shannon".
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 12:12 pm
what does the pic of the ship - the arm mean?
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Catfat
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02-27-2002
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 12:33 pm
ladidadida Whose shoe is that which is being filled with dirt? And why? Isn't this like throwing sox into the fire?
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 2:51 pm
Pamy, a yardarm is one of the horizontal thingys that hold up the sail. There is an arrow pointing to it on the ship. So a yardarm minus the letters in arm is a yard.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 6:43 pm
The shoes belong to Dan (he is the only male from New York on the over 40 tribe) and Holly is doing the deed. Also, Dan is the guy who was limping last week on the show. I looked at the group picture of all of them taken just before the water/puzzle challenge last week, and Dan had on tennis shoes, so I'm confused as to why he has two pairs of shoes on the show. The spoiler Missyae has described Holly as a "ticking time bomb" (whatever that means)!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, September 18, 2010 - 6:45 pm
See, this is the picture just before the challenge and Wendy is still with them. Dan is on the far right in the back and you can see his shoes pretty well.

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Misspoufy
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09-30-2004
| Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 4:46 am
In the past Survivor has given every player a pair of tennis shoes, because some of them have on high heels or other shoes that are not useful to them in challenges and I think Survivor likes to keep the playing field level, shoe-wise anyway!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 6:53 am
That's probably where the other shoes came from, MissP ... thanks! Okay, here are some more pics and transcript for Episode 2, thanks to Survivor Fever. ***************************** Announcer: Last Wednesday, the young Survivors took on the old... Jeff Probst: Young tribe wins Immunity! Announcer: ...and the older tribe lost. Now two castaways are cracking...
Holly: The New York city boy, Danny, he doesn't like sand on them. Announcer...big time.
NaOnka: If they want to play dirty, I can play dirty, too. Announcer: Can former NFL coach, Jimmy Johnson, hold the older tribe together...
Jimmy Johnson: I'm just keeping my fingers crossed. Announcer: ...or will they fall apart?
Danny : She stole my shoes.
Tyrone : I'm gonna keep one eye on her and one eye on my shoes.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 7:18 am
Okay, Pamy .... Finally here's your favorite part: **************************** Tribal Council Voting Find out what each member of the Espada tribe said as they cast their votes for the first person voted off of Survivor Nicaragua Jane (Wendy): I'm a team player. I have to go with what I think's going to be best tonight for our team. I like you. You're a hell of a mat-weaver, and you were so much fun going out there and catching crabs. But I'm sorry, I have to go with the team tonight. Marty ("Wendy Jo"): Wendy Jo, we hardly knew you. It would have been AWESOME if you'd played the game. Wendy (Yve): Yve, you lied to me today when I asked you. You could have said my name was going on the vote. So, I'm sorry, had to pick somebody. I feel like you're a threat to me. Danny (Wendy): <says nothing> Yve (Wendy): <before she votes> You can't hesitate in life and you can't hesitate in this game. Like you said, you've got to stay true to who you are. <votes and holds up her card> Jimmy J (Wendy): You're a hard-working, good person, but we've got to keep the stronger members. Jill (Wendy): Someone has to go, and I feel like this is the right decision for a stronger tribe. Tyrone ("Wendy Jo"): Initially, the decision was tough, but after hearing you speak tonight with your pleas and excuses, it became easy. It appears you're inauthenticity got the best of you. Might want to consider showing the world who you are. Be yourself. Tonight, Wendy Jo, you gotta go. Holly (Wendy): I know I got off to a bad start, I admit that, but I'm taking Jimmy's advice, and I'm keeping the team strong. Jimmy T ("Wendy-Jo"): Sorry, kid. You're a sweet girl, but probably a little too sweet for a hard game.
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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002
| Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 7:29 am
Great speech from Tyrone, I'm going to root for him I think.
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Sunday, September 19, 2010 - 3:57 pm
Mama, aahhhh ty!! Thx Ginger!!! xxoxo
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 6:29 am
The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up at Survivor Blows done by poster Kircon. No real surprises there. Summary: *********************************** Reward/Immunity Challenge -- Mud and Puzzle Older Tribe will use the Medallion for an advantage Older Tribe will win immunity and fishing gear The fishing gear gives Jimmy J. time to prove he is the "great fisherman" which was spoiled awhile back. Jimmy T. is suppose to be a fisherman by trade, but Jimmy J. is the "great fisherman" in Survivor: Nicaraugua. Brenda will be the misdirection at the younger tribe for the boot. She will find out that Shannon is the real person behind the "let's boot all the females" scenario that Chase leaked to her last week, and will tell the other females. Shannon will be the toast this week and will stir up (supposedly) the greatest TC in Survivor History, hence Jeff's statement about "whoop-ass" at the TC.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 9:11 am
Stand up and get crunk... Didn't the older tribe win fishing gear last week?
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 9:29 am
No, the younger tribe won the fishing gear when they gave up the Medallion of Power.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:50 am
That's right Merry....plus they got flint. The older tribe had Jane who got them fire without flint in 30 minutes cause she had been practicing for 2 months how to do it. Then they were given flint when they went to TC. Tonight they win fishing gear.
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