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Whoami
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08-02-2001

Friday, April 01, 2011 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I get the same impression of Phillip too. Interesting.

I remember an episode or two ago, two of the girls were pouring water into the canteens from the pot it had been boiled in. He "offered" (more like tried to insist) that he help, or do it for them. They told him something like, "that's ok, we have it." He sat down basically right in their face and said (sarcastically), "This I've got to see." Like he was just waiting for them to mess up or spill the water.

Seems like at TC one time, he made some off the cuff remark about the women, and Jeff even asked him to elaborate. I can't remember what he said, but I remember being left with feeling like he pretty much figured the men were the only useful members of the tribe, and the women were just there to be decorations or something.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, April 01, 2011 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Happy...you are right... Fabio was/is a smart guy. Somehow I forgot that.

By floating... I didn't mean literally floating from job to job.... more that Fabio seemed more to be the stoned head in the clouds guy... But now I recall his confessionals he wanted to portray himself that way so he would be less of a threat. Pretty smart I guess.

Lycanthrope
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09-19-2002

Friday, April 01, 2011 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lycanthrope a private message Print Post    
Bonbon and Happymom, don't forget about the reunion show...Fabio was spaced out or something...I know he's intelligent, but that reunion performance dimmed my respect for him a little bit.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Plus Fabio has showed up in the news with some personal troubles. Former DUI and arrested for skateboarding while under the influence.

Is Phil faking? You can't fake that level of nuts.

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Skateboarding under the influence? That is really a crime somewhere?

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Bon, that is how I meant floating too. Lycan, I think maybe he is just one of those different, odd (not in a bad way), creative, peace loving people...kind of like a hippy type mindset. I think he either kept that part of his personality somewhat hidden during the season, or it was just edited out.

Sally, I have, at times, wondered if Phil could be faking too. :-) I doubt he is though. If he is, it is totally bad strategy because it is backfiring.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Saturday, April 02, 2011 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I just don't see Phil as faking, as much as I hate to think this is his real personality lol. He has provided some real entertainment, but I think he is insufferable. I don't think I would be able to tolerate him any better than the girls on his tribe do.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Sunday, April 03, 2011 - 2:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
I've been watching the clips again. On Zap tribe, David is not weathering well, having difficulties communicating with the rest of his tribe. Sarita was considered weak but 'trustworthy' & her weakness was ultimately why they voted her off.

But, thinking this through... if the merge happens as the previews indicate this next week ... remember how at RI on her way out, Stephanie told Ralph that he needed to unload Sarita 'because David was stronger and DAVID is the Puzzle Guy'?

Philip, and especially ROB The Other Puzzle Guy, were witnesses! I think if it comes to a merge (where it's every person for themselves) Stephanie may have put an even bigger target on David's back, even if she thought she was 'helping' him. If it comes down to having to whittle Zap's numbers next TC, I bet even his own team would let David do the torch snuff, in order to save their own alliance - as well as eliminate a stronger competitor.

Anyone have other ideas?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Insufferable...perfect word for Phillip.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Roxip: ITA 100% with your Friday, 10:41 a.m. post about Phillip.

He's not faking it.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Have we actually SEEN David be the puzzle guy, or is that just his claim?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
TNT, I believe that the very first challenge (Francesca sent packing) the Puzzle Guys were David & Rob. Rob looked confident, but David beat him when it came to the puzzle.

Jeff has also said/blogged a couple of times that David has the highest IQ of any contestant ever on Survivor. Which leads me to believe David's claims.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
TY, Biscotti! I only have about three memory cells left, and I have to devote them to where I parked my car last.

High IQ scores can come from many different directions - spatial, verbal, mathmatical, logical, etc.

I once has an autistic student who could put a 500+ plus piece puzzle together from the back (non-picture) side way faster than I could assemble the outside edges!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
David annoys me...I have been a legal secretary for 28 years and I have seen his type more times than I want to say...brilliant, egotiscal, driven...sure that everything they say and do is golden...he just makes me skin crawl. I run and hide when baby attorneys like him are being assigned...they usually are not good news.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Rox ~ ...brilliant, egotiscal, driven...sure that everything they say and do is golden...

Yes, ITA. Sounds like a LOT of MBAs back in my days as a secretary too (long before they invented the title of Admin Asst).

David's insistence that Zap needed to go with Stephanie (despite the whiff of Russell stink still wafting around her) makes him seem too unreliable and likely to jump ship. I watched a clip, where David is talking about how he has nothing in common with his team, could possibly switch to the younger folks on Rob's team. Here it is:

-- Roxip cover your eyes! --
Survivor: Redemption Island - At My Wits End Clip 3:03
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=CRP2DXGuRO8vtaGUGifVq6N54X7tOmtp&vs=Clips&play=true
David admits to having nothing in common with the people left on Zapatera.

The fact that the oldsters on his tribe just blow him off, like when he suggests to go fishing... My speculation is that he will do the torch snuff pretty soon. Rob won't want to keep him around for individual immunity challenges in case he might be competition at puzzles or as a stronger male. Just my thoughts.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
I thought Jeff said David scored the highest IQ for this season only.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, April 04, 2011 - 11:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From the Spoilers thread,
Redemption Island: Caution - Spoilers: Season Spoilers: Archive through February 15, 2011

Alaginger, Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:42 am

Probst: [ETA: Ashley] She's going to be able to help her tribe in challenges. When you're a woman who is attractive and you contribute, your chances for staying around as long as you have men on your tribe, are very high.
David Murphy holds the record of the highest IQ, ever, on Survivor. He's a defense attorney for high profile cases in Los Angeles and I asked him, how do you defend somebody that is guilty and he said, I never ask them if they're guilty. The way he answered that question, I think, gives you some insight into how he might play this game.
David: It sounds awful to say it but I'm going to have to bring myself down to their level.


Spear
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08-06-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 1:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
My mistake -- I misread his last blog. Thanks for the citation.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 1:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
No prob! I just did a TVCH search for "IQ", then remembered I had seen it in the Spoiler thread (which not everyone reads). Ginger also posts Jeff's blogs & articles often, redlining what she sees as potential spoiler info.

Still, I thought the rest of the Probst comment was worth reading. Falls in line with Roxip's thoughts re: David. Hey, I liked him at first. But I feel like, even if he's an intelligent player, his social game is lacking when he can't read his teammates better.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
By the way, if any of you is a lawyer, or has a son or daughter who is becoming a lawyer, please excuse me if you think I am stereotyping...there are many baby lawyers who come out of law school and are nice human beings...I managed to snag one of those last year!

To be honest, if I remember correctly David works in the prosecutor's office or something, and trial lawyers tend to be the worst of these types of personalities...but it falls in line with the way they have to be at their jobs. They have to believe that they can win win win (hey, could Charlie Sheen have been a lawyer in another life?) at any cost.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Roxip, there are two types of baby lawyers. Those that come out of law school and think that their secretary and paralegal are merely "staff," and those that listened to their law professors when they were told to always take their secretary's advice when she is training them. I have also had both types of baby lawyers in the last 30 years. Fortunately, dealing with baby lawyers who don't know what they are doing or want advice on how to do it the way the firm/partner likes it is not an issue for me anymore.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
If they only knew just how helpful/destructive a good secretary can be to them. The ones who ask for help get professional looking documents, formatted the way each individual partner wants them to look, and spell-checked. The ones who bark at you and assume that they are better at doing documents than their secretaries are get their documents thrown back at them by an irritated partner who has had to waste his or her billable time making minor corrections to their documents that a good secretary would have caught.

Usually after a year or two they either catch on or move on.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I suspect that a good ego is conducive to working in that profession as you have to appear confident in front of a jury. I'll go out on a limb here and say that despite what many teach (pride goeth before the fall) a healthy ego isn't a bad thing as long as you don't go around telling everyone how wonderful you are and as long as you are willing to listen to advice.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Roxi, David works as a defense attorney. So odds are pretty high he ain't workin' in the prosecutor's office. :-)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Oops, sorry, I thought I heard he worked in a DA's office...but the same principal applies...only to a greater degree. You have to be entirely committed to winning no matter what to represent guilty people...LOL!