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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:08 pm
I agree with Bevdan 100%...so I'll repeat what Bevdan said earlier!!! After reading all the posts here I just have to add me 2 cents - Survivor has never been about who needs the money or not - nor has it been about God and some invisible line! If you have a line you should never even go on Survivor. Very Bitter jury <24>. I am glad Rob won he worked every one on that island to his advantage he could have suffered the same fate as Russel but he knows how to play the game and make connections with others. <24> As for Ashley...she managed to make it to final 3!!! I give her credit. Anyone who makes it to the final 3 deserves to be called a survivor. Think of yourself as age 19. Could you have made it past all those other players? Professional football players, U.S. Marine, practicing lawyer, law student, pre-med students, and Russell himself. Julie should be ashamed of herself.
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:09 pm
oops! I meant to say Natalie ... not Ashley. Who is Ashley, anyway?
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:18 pm
PS If Russel is back for another try, my hope is that the group would vote him off right off the bat. He's not 'good tv' for me. He spoils the show. You can't compare him to Rob who is quite fascinating to watch as he manages a group of people. In other words I NEVER want to see Russel again. On any show.
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Kitt
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09-06-2000
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:21 pm
Yey go Rob!!! I'm so happy for him, of all players ever in Survivor I don't think anyone has deserved to win more than him. And happy he got the fan favourite too! I was (half) surprised by the bitter jury. Everyone said Natalie was a sweetheart so I don't know why they needed to be so mean. So she rode coattails to the end, she's not the first to do it and won't be the last. I can't imagine what the muscly woman thought her mum would have been sad about. She made strong decisions while never personally being cruel. And she was 19 for Pete's sake. Sad Grant couldn't separate his friendship with Rob from the game with Rob. To me that was clearly the most honest friendship Rob made out there, and even when it came to voting him out Rob didn't want to do it, it was just the right decision at that time. Russell has no sense of humour about anything. If CBS bring him back they are fools. So, Redemption Island was such a hit. Bring Person One back from Redemption Island, they get voted out next Tribal. Bring Person Two back from Redemption Island, they get voted out next Tribal. Why exactly did they bother? I wonder if they filmed the new show before they heard the viewer reaction to this season. I hope it's not the same format. And did they really say they are bringing two old players back!?!?
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Wavewatcher
Member
09-09-2006
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:22 pm
One more thing. How come we have to sign in just to read the posts? Usually the sign in is for when we wish to post.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:37 pm
Did anyone else recognize Grant's new wife? I thought she looked like the police detective in a vampire series I used to watch on Lifetime channel (I think). I looked it up and it was! The new "Mrs Grant" was Christina Cox, who starred in a TV show called Blood Ties in 2006. She was also one of the principal characters in Defying Gravity.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:43 pm
Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Grant, Matt, Mike Pt. 1) Clip 5:31 Grant, Matt and Mike are eliminated during the final Redemption Island duel and are sent to Ponderosa http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=ZYH0Tq46bk976wSP1CaxJCAcyn7JvHG4&vs=Ponderosa&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Grant, Matt, Mike Pt. 2) Clip 2:46 Grant and Mike immediately try to get back into shape on Ponderosa http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=d7exECSh0iWayVOeMvYtJqpyReoAVWPC&vs=Ponderosa&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Andrea Pt. 1) Clip 3:57 Andrea is voted off and sent to Redemption Island http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=HG1Nx4dkC5HEn7duANZ6iyH5Vya3AuD0&vs=Ponderosa&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Andrea Pt. 2) Clip 3:17 Andrea enjoys life at Ponderosa with extra helpings of breakfast food Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Andrea Pt. 2)} http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=5ec5PkS2YyAx8Eb5_UxnuvUPOANrLT2g&vs=Ponderosa&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Ashley Pt. 1) Clip 4:45 Ashley is voted off and becomes the last person to join the jury http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=NgHU5dVyVb38Omx_oYnnuQh0lrrDOpsA&vs=Ponderosa&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Ponderosa (Ashley Pt. 2) Clip 2:18 The jury members think about the questions they want to ask the final three and who they might vote for http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=bH2AEe4VMiBqZHMc8lE4NDxnCOMzEypK&vs=Ponderosa&play=true
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Sunday, May 15, 2011 - 11:59 pm
"So, Redemption Island was such a hit. Bring Person One back from Redemption Island, they get voted out next Tribal. Bring Person Two back from Redemption Island, they get voted out next Tribal. Why exactly did they bother? " Exactly, Kitt. I was hoping at very the end, the last person standing on Redemption Island would be brought back to become one of the FINAL 3! Everyone knows that returnees usually get voted out right away on BB and it proved to be the same on Survivor. I must admit I was very glad they decided to forego that sappy, boring trudge across a mountain or beach to remember all the people they voted out....that was always the one part I consistently FF through.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:17 am
Down to iPod so brief (but not pink or peach) post only: I'm totally stoked with the outcome! Ralph managed to mangle yet another name.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 12:29 am
If Natalie hadn't ridden Rob's coattails, she would not have made final three and the prize money that goes along with it. Not may 19-year-olds make $85,000 in 39 days. In spite of what Julie may think, I'm sure her parents are very proud of her! Oh, and I'm very happy that Rob won! I'm even happier that with Russell sitting on stage, Jeff gave Rob props for being such a great player and playing an almost-perfect strategic game!
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 1:20 am
You can't compare him to Rob who is quite fascinating to watch as he manages a group of people. not everybody is! I didnt enjoy the predictable rob show one bit! sorry 
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 1:21 am
Oh ick, seems they did the funky 'rites of passage' - thankfully they didn't waste our TV time watching it. Here it is, in case anyone chooses to partake: Survivor: Redemption Island - Rites of Passage Clip 11:53 The final four pay respect to the castaways that have gone before them in SURVIVOR: REDEMPTION ISLAND http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=YTNBNiN7DHtgXkVTl2L1gHdbcA2TXBnA&vs=Clips&play=true ETA: I take that back, when Rob makes his comments at Russell's name-plaque, thanking him for being such a pain in the a$$ it gave Rob's tribe a step up! hehehe
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 2:26 am
I'm really happy Rob won. But having 2 more repeat players come back next season and having the redemption island twist again is just too much. Maybe this season should have been the last. Hope Russell and Phil are not the returnees! Never want to see either one again. They couldn't find any actual coworkers of Phillip's to vouch for him? That didn't surprise me. He wouldn't have lasted at my agency, Customs, where our agents worked, sometimes undercover, to bust drug smugglers, and now, as ICE, do anti-terrorist work also. Just based on my perceptions of his behavior on the show, of course.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 4:00 am
I'm disappointed that Rob won. I might be in the minority, but it would have been nice to see someone like Matt win. Matt grew on me. I'd love to see him in another Survivor.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 4:50 am
I liked Matt. I wish I had voted in the people's choice contest. I'm sorry Matt.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:00 am
Matt saved his own butt numerous times while on Redemption Island, but he had no "game". I think Survivor is all about having "game" and Rob had it in spades. I agree with those who got sick of hearing Matt's preaching or whatever you want to call it. I liked him until it became evident that he had nothing else to say. B.O.R.I.N.G.
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:02 am
Yes Rob won and although I am not a fan of his he did deserve to win or did he. It took him 117 days, 10 years and 4 tries to win. he was the best player because he played everyone not just the game. I have to wonder how many of the players would have still wanted to be in a game if they were told upon applying that Rob and Russel would be in the game. Next season we are told they are doing it again. Whoever they bring back will be voted out just as quickly as the RI returnees. Just my opinion.
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Cruzlvr
Member
11-12-2003
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:19 am
I just watched all the clips on the jurors thoughts prior to going to final tribal. It was very interesting and well worth watching. Some points that I found interesting: Julie: Basically saying the same thing that she said at the final tribal, how both Nat and Phil need to think if their family would be proud, blah, blah. Says she isn't bitter but would never play a game her family would be ashamed of how she played. My question is, would her family be proud of the fact that she took a man's shorts and buried them, not only buried them but seemed to take such glee in doing it. To me she did come across as bitter. Most of the other jurors all said Rob played a great game, even though they didn't like how he played the game. I guess my question would be, how do they think he should have played????? He made it to the end and they didn't. You could tell by what they said, though, that most had pretty much made up their mind to vote for Rob. They all felt that Nat rode Rob's coattails all the way to the end, was his puppet and had not respect for that. The thing I found really interesting, most talked about if Phil could somehow convince them that the way he played was some brilliant scheme to get Rob to take him to the end that they might consider voting for Phil. They all wanted Phil to say that he knew the way Rob was thinking and it was his (Phil's) strategy to make himself look so bad that Rob would want to take him to the end. I thought that is what Phil would do at final tribal as he kept saying that somewhat in some of the private interviews during the game. I am really glad that Rob won but it might have turned out a little different if Phil had the wherewithall to articulate that at final tribal. I thought that is what his plan was and while I didn't want Phil to win, I was disappointed at his performance at the last final tribal. Some talked about the fact that it took Rob four times playing and 117 days to get there. Actually, IMO the year Amber won, was the year Rob should have won, but that jury was so bitter towards Rob that the vote for Amber was more against Rob than for Amber.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:42 am
I, too, was not thrilled with Rob lasting til the end. However, with the three that were left, I have to agree that he was the best choice. (I too was SOOO hoping that Phil was going to say at the end that his nuttiness was just a cover so he'd be brought to the end.) Those numnuts on Zapatera got what they deserved after they pulled that stupid "throwing the challenge to dump Russell" move. They could have still easily got rid of Russell a little later. What a different game it would have been if they didn't allow themselves to be pagonged. I actually agreed with Julie. Her point is that the women, and particularly Natalie, should not have been so star-stuck or mesmerized by Rob and not let him have total mind control over all of them. It was an interesting point for her to make Rob think about whether he'd like someone to do the same manipulating to his daughter(s) when she/they'd get older.... The season really did get boring especially when the total Pagonging occurred week after week.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 5:53 am
Voting Rob out would not have improved Natalie's odds of winning. It would have made Ashley the winner. LOL - Which is why Ashley thought it was a good idea. The reality which these people are reluctant to accept is that Natalie played a better game and got farther than anyone else there by sticking with Rob from the beginning. All this stuff about not being proud when she stuck it out for 39 days, worked hard and was basically a nice person who didn't embarrass herself is just shameful sour grapes on their part. I'm sure her family is very proud of her.
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Bevdan
Member
05-09-2011
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:03 am
It is amazing that the 4 of them forget how gleeful and nasty they were blind siding their whole tribe they only got so moral when they were in the minority and getting voted out to go to bible study with Matt.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:25 am
~~Regarding Rob not needing the money, I don't understand why some think the winner should be the person who needs the money the most.~~ Rob is one who brought needing the money into play, he made the comment that he was there to make a better life for him and Amber. Personally, I thought him and Amber already had a darn good life. lol
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Gldnlvr
Member
08-03-2007
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:29 am
Rob's win was well deserved, I wish the show hadn't been so predictable though. I was very disappointed in the bitterness of most of the jury. I wonder if Natalie rec'd any votes (they weren't all read, right?). I don't think she would have made it very far without Rob's help - she is way too nice and naive. Grant cleaned up really nice!! His attitude toward Rob surprised me at the finale.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:39 am
Yeah for Rob! He clearly earned the win. Bitter juries should realize how they sound to the watchers. I couldn't stay awake for the last hour and actually came here to find out who won. I almost never come here until the entire show is over. Natalie is a sweet girl and she did better than everyone except for Rob. You go girl!
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Iluvreality
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05-08-2011
| Monday, May 16, 2011 - 6:53 am
Maybe they will bring back two ladies.
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