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Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Thanks Biscotti -- another enlightening interview. So interesting how she was cast.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Do I think Brandon is a smart person - NO! Do I think he thinks ahead to figure out where his mouth is taking him - NO! Do I think he should self-monitor his bahvior/conversations more - YES! AND do I think he is a person who is truly trying to live his life in a Christian manner - YES!

He does not appear to have had a lot of practice at this lifestyle yet, but he seems willing to learn to live in a more positive way. I would never have believed I could say this about a Hantz, but I wanted to hug him last night.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
It's hard to see the Brandon of last night as the same guy I've disliked through the whole season. It was hard to watch him realize that he was being betrayed by somebody he trusted as much as Coach. I don't for one minute think that Coach actually believes that God "told" him to vote out Brandon. It's very funny that God's plan and Coach's plan turned out to be the same thing. I (and probably the jury) would have more respect for Coach if he had just owned his move and told Brandon that he made the decision that was best for his own game. Trying to make Brandon think that God actually wanted him voted out was just plain scummy and cowardly.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree Nerovh. Brandon is fragile and to play him like that was stooping lower than I thought Coach would. But I'm sure Brandon will write it off as "god's plan", which just leaves little room for one to be accountable for their actions, for their own free will, for their decisions. In my mind, 'god made me do it' bears no more weight and reason than 'the devil made me do it'. Choices. And Brandon chose foolishly this time.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    

quote:

Trying to make Brandon think that God actually wanted him voted out was just plain scummy and cowardly.




ITA. If Coach were a true believer, he wouldn't have prayed to God to find the idol when it was in his pocket. That was soooo dishonest and preying on Brandon's new found Christianity.

He played a vulnerable young man, and there's nothing honourable about that.

Often young guys who join gangs are troubled and seeking recognition. After seeing Brandon's father in action...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Following along with Brandon's beliefs .... It .... just ..... doesn't ..... matter.

If you believe in God, either God cares what happens in these people's lives (including Survivor) or he doesn't care. Brandon believes that God cares. So it makes no difference what Coach does or says. Regardless of what Coach does or says, Brandon's way of thinking will always lead him to believe that what happens is God's will. According to Brandon's thinking, even if Coach is mean and nasty and makes Brandon's life miserable, it must be God's will. LOL - Kind of takes the pressure out of living and making decisions doesn't it?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2011 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yep.. kind of a passive existence where you don't really have responsibility and can always be forgiven.

People as Puppies.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I believe in God and I see nothing wrong in doing so.

I don't think it makes me any better or worse than a non-believer.

I hope God feels that way also.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I believe in God and I believe in prayer in my life. I also believe that God does not want me to stand idly by and let people mistreat me.

Reenie
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06-24-2006

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reenie a private message Print Post    
Very interesting discussions here for sure!

I feel bad for Brandon because I feel he's just a little lost soul and easy prey for those who wish to manipulate him. I hope he has someone to guide him in the right direction. He is so young.

Coach, on the other hand, I do not feel bad for. Praying to find the Idol when he already had it was pure manipulation and deception. Voting off Brandon and saying it was "God's choice" lets him take no responsibility for his actions.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
ditto, Jimmer's post

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I don't think Brandon was listening to God, I think he was listening to Coach, who was using Brandon's spiritual beliefs, sense of loyalty, and guilt about Russell for his own personal gain. Maybe Ozzy gave him a few tips on Redemption Island. I hope Brandon takes this as a lesson he can grow from.

Coach's praying seemed more overkill for the cameras, I think he's full of it actually. I believe spirituality comes from within and gives people strength, etc., but the idea that God would be focused on this game, is so ridiculous to me. God has a list of things to focus on, Coach winning a million dollars, or starving children all over the planet--hmmmmm.

I haven't watched all of this season, but at this point, I wouldn't mind seeing Ozzy win, if he gets back in that is.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I would love to see Ozzy win as much as I would hate to see Coach win, Stormie. Any shot Coach had at redeeming himself in my eyes (and really, he went a good way with it this season), was gone after the situation with Brandon Wednesday night.

Now, Coach is there to win a game I understand this (and I understand this with regard to Albert's game too) - I just don't see how screwing Brandon helped him with this. He'd have been better voting off Sophie, because if she gets to final three or two, I think she's going to beat him. (I haven't sat around counting up the numbers, but there are very few people who would vote for Brandon Hantz if he were up against Coach I'm thinking.)

And why didn't the rest of the dingalings vote out Coach when they could catch him looking? Why would they think he couldn't win, Rob won last season.

Ozzy FTW, but if he doesn't make it to the finals then Sophie FTW.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Oh, and we're going in to the final night of Survivor with six contestants still in play. I hate that.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Kids are lucky because they can hear God's voice easily.

My friend, who is a minister, said she was sitting in her living room the other day listening to her to kids (son age 6 daughter age 4) talking in the other room where there was a nativity set.

She heard her son say "Don't worry Jesus, I will move you."

My friend called in to him "What are you doing?"

He answered "Jesus said he was tired of all the people looking at him."

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
All seriousness aside, I did have to laugh when Coach said that Brandon was giving him "Russell Hantz Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder."

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
If Coach really believes that God is all that tuned in to his prayers, I wish this "godly" man might think to mention the AIDS epidemic in Africa, the number of people starving to death daily, and the natural diasters happening world-wide.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Aw, I'm still liking Coach. The way I see the praying, it's a form of relaxing meditation to calm one's mind in the midst of chaos and paranoia. Yeah, that's right ~ I drank the kool-aid and I ain't denying it!

Go Sophie!

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Well, we don't know what all Coach prays for, it might not always be about himself.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Lastnight I was so tickled to finally see the Edna @ Ponderosa clips that I forgot to simultaneously post the CBS links here. In the interest of continuity here they are:

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2177220552/south-pacific-ponderosa-edna-pt-1

http://www.cbs.com/shows/survivor/video/2177220567/south-pacific-ponderosa-edna-pt-2

I had been checking YT as well, nice that Spear caught it first there though.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Just finished quacking with my Kid Sis in Phx. She had an interesting take on Brandon. Said that her impressions of him were that he must be fairly fresh into a 12-Step program.

-He's young.
-If he's coming out of a gang situation, there likely must have been a LOT of drinking and drugging.
-Some of the first steps would be "Higher Power"/God, Brandon needing to be trustworthy. Huge focus on the God issues and praying.
-He went to Coach constantly as a Mentor/Sponsor type person.

She didn't think Brandon had any business being thrust into the show, but CBS will do anything to boost their ratings. She feels like, once Brandon sees this show and what all was said about him, he may have some major struggles staying clean.

Frankly, I think she hit the nail on the head! CBS editing would be avoiding any mention of a minor drinking or having any past drinking issues. They don't want to incur the wrath of FCC or fans.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
anyone notice the IN fell off Albert's neck when Brandon's torch snuffed??!!! the look on Al's face priceless!!! he looked down then up as if he just realized he pissed God off for not giving the IN back

Brandon gets my vote for fav

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Did it fall off PAmy? I thought he took it off since he didn't earn it. I thought the look on his face was about Brandon leaving. Hmmm.....

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 16, 2011 - 10:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
it looked like he went to adjust it and it fell, he made face looked down like then looked up to God haha

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, December 17, 2011 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't know if Coach is a believer in god or not but let's say Coach does believe in god but that Coach is just using religiousness as a tool to manipulate Brandon for this reality show. Coach knows that god doesn't really care that much about what's going on in a reality show on CBS. I think Coach's manipulation on this god thing just shows how easily some can fall prey to blind faith. If one (Brandon) is silly enough to forego common sense in this game you deserve to get booted by giving up your II.