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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:18 pm
I don't think it's scripted. I just think the Ometepe tribe just may be the least strategic players in history! I can't beleive there hasn't been a conversation or confessional of someone's plan to try to get Rob out. Even if the plan doesn't work, it's what most of them should be thinking about. And that is something the producers would normally eat up, so I'm guessing there hasn't been any. Therefore, we have the Rob show. I agree w/Stormie, not very entertaining.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:26 pm
Didn't Ashley say something to Natalie in that regard, and then Natalie went right to Rob with it, ensure his trust in her? This was weeks ago. I seem to recall something like that. If you have the numbers, why try to stir things up early? they all think they are sitting pretty. They saw what happened to Matt. i'm sure they'll try to get rid of Rob. I just hope it's too little too late.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:26 pm
They probably think they are all going to the end with Rob. It has worked well for them compared to Russell's tribe (look which tribe is still there). And they probably think no one will want to award Rob more money since he and Amber are already seen to be well-off and successful. It's not that terrible a strategy.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:34 pm
While watching the show I noticed that the tribe walked back from redemption Island with their family members. They were walking along the beach and had to cross a stream. Rob was one of the 1st to cross and stayed to give everyone a hand as they crossed. It is those little things that I find so endearing about him.
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:40 pm
Rob knew how to manipulate from way back and that is why this is his third season playing. It is fun to watch and the producers know it. I think it is a close call as to whether it is an advantage or disadvantage having been on before. Granted, he has game play experience, but any of the other contestants who had watched the show in the past knew his game play....it hasn't changed much (though I think he gets more likable each time.) I think the other contestants are banking on the fact that Amber won it in the past, thus he shared the million already. It's a good jury argument.... and an easier one to come up with than something against your other unknown competitors. Plus I think Rob appears to be a fun and interesting person to hang out with.... I'd vote to keep him around just for that! And I think "manipulation" is the word for the whole show. They pick people who they think will be good tv and try to provoke it. They can't really control what people do on camera, but there are enough possibilities that they get some decent footage to air. I am sure there are some well-placed comments by producers....especially to the people they either know, like, or expect an interesting reaction from.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:43 pm
That's why I'm not happy with the editing. We haven't been shown what any of the Ometepe tribe is thinking, except for Rob & Philip. So we have no idea what they're thinking. The two girls a couple of weeks ago, were approached by Mike? Steve? about getting rid of Rob. Nat went to Rob with it, so that was the end of that. No real discussion about it.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 1:51 pm
they are fairly young girls -- are we sure they are actually thinking about anything?! Remember the "spa day". You may be giving them more credit than they deserve. LOL.
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Maineiac
Member
08-24-2009
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:03 pm
** I would say the players who kept their veteran were the smart players** Not if he takes home the million dollars. lol
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:03 pm
It's not scripted, but if you watch BB live feeds and believe that BB producers influence the players (during DR sessions), then it's easy to imagine the Survivor producers doing the same thing. It's even easier for Survivor because they don't have to worry about live feed watchers catching the players blabbing about their interviews.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:08 pm
I'm not convinced the age thing with the girls is a huge factor, I think the producers just chose people who are malleable, which played right into the Rob show. I think watching at home is a lot different than playing--you're on a show four times, you learn a thing or two--and Ometepe is not playing, they are just following Rob, still, makes me wonder if they ever watched the show. I don't believe the other tribe's demise was due to ousting Russell, I think it was due to them ousting Stephanie, they went for loyalty, rather than strength, which is what they needed at the time.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:36 pm
If you watch the extra clips this week, Natalie believes she is closest to Rob. Ashley believes she could beat Rob in the final jury vote. We've seen Phillip on the show say he wants Rob to take him to the end. That leaves Grant, who seems to be the first one Rob talks strategy with. Therefore, I can believe it if there's nothing interesting to show about anyone planning to make a strategic move. It looks like they're all content to have Rob take them to the end (like All-Stars). Maybe someone will get a clue and make things more interesting, or maybe the RI winner will shake things up. Of course, Jeff will probably make a big deal about all the votes being "backstabs" even though no one is really changing alliances. They'll also have more misleading teasers to make it look like Rob's in danger.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:42 pm
They're all going to be considered blindsides from last week on because the alliance was so strong, no one thought they were on the bottom of it. Everyone will always think that someone else will be voted out, because this tribe as a whole, once they got rid of Francesca and Kristina, has been really good at doing that. They even managed to blindside Julie!
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:50 pm
Oops, you're right, "blindside" is what Jeff likes to use. Thanks.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 3:54 pm
** I would say the players who kept their veteran were the smart players Not if he takes home the million dollars. lol** LOL, true, Manieac...but at least they're still in the game, which gives them a chance...
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 4:04 pm
They might just be setting us up for a Mike win. They know who won when they edit the show. They have concentrated on only three people. Rob, Phillip and Matt. We can only go with what we are shown. It would not be at all surprising to me if Mike is the one who comes back. He could easily win immunity at the end and make it to the final two or three. If he does that, he will win. The majority of the jury will be from his tribe and they will vote for anyone from their tribe to win. We have no way of knowing what has been said, plotted and planned if they are trying to spring a big surprise on us. Grant, Phillip and one or more of the women might have been planning to get rid of Rob this week, but he knows he is in danger and will do whatever it takes to win immunity until the last week he can use the HII.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 4:59 pm
Bonbon, I noticed that also. Its the little things 
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 6:12 pm
I just watched the last challenge again. I recall someone earlier in this thread commenting on how Rob was barely crawling up the stairs the last time, and Grant was just flying up them. It dawned on me as the challenge progressed that, as an NFL player, I bet Grant ran the bleachers many a time during conditioning. He stayed loose and relaxed as he jogged down the stairs (sometimes I think going downhill is worse than going uphill), and I bet he knew from experience how to save his legs.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 7:04 pm
they are fairly young girls -- are we sure they are actually thinking about anything?! Remember the "spa day". You may be giving them more credit than they deserve. LOL. LOL! Brenda, you are too funny!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 7:14 pm
I think the producers just chose people who are malleable, which played right into the Rob show. I do not agree. I think they chose people who would make good tv. If everyone was malleable, it would not be good tv. It would be boring. I am not bored at all with this season and I know I'm not alone. There is no way that I think every single person besides Rob and Russel is malleable on this season. The producers did not pick Rob's tribe, it was luck of the draw. He had a 50% chance of winding up on Ometempe and 50% Zapetera. I think good tv is their only goal. They knew there was a chance that Rob would voted off be first.
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Mimi
Member
04-30-2009
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 7:55 pm
I don't believe it is scripted in any way. I agree with Merrysea - if that were the case they would have kept Russell.
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Jag2000
Member
07-01-2009
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 8:01 pm
I don't think Rob would still be in the game if he had some of the other team's players. He has 3 really young girls who are easily impressed with Rob's skills, he is "cute", he's smart, and they adore him and they are all followers. He has Phillip fooled and just keeping him around because they would vote Phillip off before Rob. Grant thinks that he and Rob are BFFs. I don't think anyone on Rob's team will write his name down. He is their revered leader and until someone from RI comes back and can sway the girls or Phillip, which I don't think they can, Rob will be in the final 3. I also think Grant and everyone else let Rob win the last challenge.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 8:03 pm
I don't think Rob was faking being faint after he finished his challenge. Running stairs is hard as heck even for somebody who's in good shape and well-fed. To do that at full speed and in that kind of heat must have been brutal. I honestly was afraid he was going to faint and fall down the stairs at one point. Say whatever you want about Rob, he gave that challenge everything he had and was paying for it afterward.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Friday, May 06, 2011 - 8:04 pm
The producers can do whatever they want, they can set things up so someone goes down a certain proverbial road, by closing off other proverbial roads. The producers knew Russell and Rob were going to be on the show, I think they could have easily chosen people to fit their styles, both those that would follow them and those that would oppose them. And they can also change things up as the game goes on, not a script, but changing things up to attain an certain outcome; sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 6:45 pm
Jeff twittered it was 110 degrees during this challenge.

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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, May 07, 2011 - 7:43 pm
Who am I kidding? Why even bother commenting.
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