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Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
From a Benry interview:

In your CBS.com bio you cite "snoring, name droppers and flakes" as your pet peeves. What peeved you most around camp?

Well, there was quite a lot of snoring going on -- Marty and Dan, too. There wasn't much sleeping going on. Also gross body things. Jane would fart in her sleep, or she'd be cooking rice and fart and would look up and be like "oh my stomach hurts." Also, you saw him pee in the pool, but Fabio also peed all over our firewood one night after drinking a bottle of rum after the merge. TVSquad.

He also calls Sash a "little punk" and a "dirt rat." He's a charmer, that Benry. No wonder he worked on those Girls Gone Wild videos, convincing drunken young women to show their breasts.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It just looks to me like Sash had a horrible slouch growing up, so his neck seems to jut forward. Not really disconcerting, just bad posture.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think Sash also pulls his shoulders back. Could be as a result of bad posture when younger (my mom used to smack me and told me to stand up straight and be proud that I was an Amazon!). And I dunno but his nips could be enlarged as a result of having been pierced at one point. (A friend had one pierced, then hadda go get the other pierced so that they would "look even" when he took the rings out. LOL.)

I haven't watched yet, but I'm sure I'm gonna dislike Jane. Still.

At this point, I think Fabio and Holly for F2. Either to win. :-)

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
IMHO, Holly has held up best appearance-wise over the course of the show, AND she was the last one to have a reward challenge meal.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
You guys are horrible and very bad posters!!! I just wasted 15 mins examining a certain set of nipples and for that I can never forgive!! I need a drink.

Queenie
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07-09-2007

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Queenie a private message Print Post    
LOL Lilfair! Me too, I kept staring at them and them realized WTH am I doing??

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
Kona, thank you for the details about refeeding after virtual starvation. What has often mystified me is their food rewards. They really seem to chow down on super empty stomachs. Can we assume this makes them sick?

Mak1
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08-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Lilfair and Queenie, it made me feel dirty. You, too?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
LOL. Mak1! And {{{{hugs even in your dirty state!}}}}

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I needed to shower with Purell. ;)

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my favorite exit interview site:

Exclusive: Ben "Benry" Henry talks about 'Survivor: Nicaragua' realitytvworld

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I don't see how anybody could NOT have noticed Sash's gigantic, distracting nipples up until now. I find it very painful to look at the man.

I do think it is the starvation thing emphasizing his less attractive qualities, though.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
No, I didn't really. I try not to look at his body and instead look at Fabios. :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
TNT, I agree Holly has held up well. She is really a handsome woman. She has current pics on her FB page and she looks great. I imagine she will look fabulous at the finale!

Holly for fan fav!!!!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
No, I still can't forgive crazy Holly who trashed an expensive pair of someone else's shoes. She has come a long way but she did have those moments...

Carmenv
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
At this point I'm thinking anyone but Sash for the win...

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
At this point I'm thinking anyone but Sash or Dan. None of the others bother me at all. I'd still prefer Jud/Fabio or Jane, but as long as it isn't Sash or Dan, I'm OK.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Oh brother...I never noticed Sash's nips and now I'm going to be constantly looking at them...

Queenie
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07-09-2007

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Queenie a private message Print Post    
These nips are something I will have to keep to myself.........Geesh my BF will NEVER understand.. They look like 2 flattened fried eggs

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Roxip, that is one of the reasons I love her...who comes back from being that freakin crzy and wanting to quit??? LOL she rocks!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Holly really looked good in this episode. Better than almost anyone, even before the resort clean up.

Sash definitely looks like he's starving. He is really looking bad.

For both of them, I was trying to see how they looked at the beginning, during the opening credits. And dang but they didn't do opening credits this time. Strange, but I rewound several times and finally gave up at the point when they were all at RC.

Geez, Benry really got blindsided, didn't he? And Fabio, being the lone vote for Holly... I'm sure he's gonna feel the pressure.

Finally, I totally laughed at the TC. First, with Jeff introducing the two quitters. And then, while I realize they only show us what they want to, Jeff didn't chat with Dan at all.

Dan is a total nonentity in this game. He's not a threat, he doesn't do well on challenges, he barely speaks other than agreeing on who to vote for. He's a vote, and that's it. If any of these eejits really stop to think, they'd realize that taking Dan to F3 would be the smartest move... anyone could win the final challenges against him, and anyone else would likely win the $1M if he was F2.

Bonbonlover
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
and Dan knows that 100K for 2nd is better than a stipend and cab ride home.

Roxip
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I want you all to thank me for the nip obsession that is now sweeping this site (ducking...LOL!).

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Yes, they do get pretty sick when they pig out on the rewards.
Most of them talk about how constipated they are when they first arrive - some have gone two weeks before their first pooped (and then they brag about it back at camp - course none of that gets on the air).
Those contestants who have gone on to places like TWOP and other online communities have often shared about vomiting and/or stomach pains after rewards. But they are so hungry and it tastes so good to them, they know it's going to happen but don't care. Every once in a while you hear one on air talking about focusing on the "protein". Alcohol is pretty toxic after a couple of weeks out there - lose lips and much lower inhibitions - talk about messing up possible alliances. We see on Big Brother what happens with well nourished houseguests, I can only imagine some of the stupid things said & done out there by half starved Survivors.


Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Kona - I remember (!!!!) hearing one or two people talk about tummy troubles after pigging out at a reward, but I didn't realize how serious a situation it could be until you were writing upthread about it. Thanks for the info -

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I hadn't even thought about the alcohol. I am not much of a drinker and I am always shocked to see them hit the booze so hard considering the deprivation.

Seems to me one would be better off to lightly eat some protein at a reward and not gorge on anything.

Correct me if I am wrong but after you don't eat much for a time you kinda get used to it. Jane talked about that. She tried to cut her eating before going out there.


Konamouse
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Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Decreasing your food intake (i.e. when people go on diets and decrease portion sizes) doesn't cause stomach shrinkage; it causes you to be "full" with smaller meals.

When you get up in the morning your stomach is about the size of your fist. But it is like a woman's purse - it's able to expand about 200% (4 fists). If you continually fill it up that much all the time, it won't feel full at normal "2 fist" amount of food.

If you are in a state of ketosis (starvation) then you don't feel hungry (the acid level in your blood blunts appetite). Jane's method more behavioral than physiological. But it's working for her (she's not wasting energy complaining about being hungry).


Tntitanfan
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Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Kona - Great information, and explained in understandable terms! I was so intrigued by your "fist" measurements that I filled a large measuring cup and found out that my fist is EXACTLY eight ounces liquid measure - very interesting!

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I know this is OT but the ketosis you are calling starvation, is that the same as being on Atkins? I did that years ago and remember having no hunger and thought that was some magical formula. Obviously the diet has its faults but I didn't think starvation was one of them. Wow!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That's my understanding. That is also what happens if you have uncontrolled diabetes.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 5:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Jane was probably training her body to exist on less food intake by reducing her caloric intake before she left for the show.

Her body adapted to functioning on fewer calories.

Starvation is when the body starts to "digest" itself. For energy, the body uses sugar first, then fat then body protein (muscles).

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Ketosis occurs when there is inadequate carbohydrate intake (and you have depleated your stored glucose from muscles & liver, called glycogen) to feed glucose to your muscle/brain cells. Instead you will have to break down protein (some can be turned to glucose for your brain) and fat in order to feed your muscle cells (at the least support your basal metabolism). The byproducts, ketones, are acidic. And not favorable for bursts of exercise.

In the Atkins diet the carbohydrate intake was so low the body was 'starved' of glucose and theory was body fat would be burned. Presence of ketones in the urine = fat burning. But this also included dietary fat/protein utilization. It was/is possible to eat enough total calories that you could be in ketosis and not use stored body fat. But in reality after the initial water weight lost (from depletion of stored glycogen) people who continued to lose weight just ended up eating fewer calories if they stuck with the diet long enough. This ketotic state was also called "benign ketosis" because it was believed it wasn't dangerous. However, long term ketosis = acidic blood, higher blood phosphorous which pulls calcium out of your bones, higher blood nitrogen with puts more stress on kidneys, higher uric acid which increases risk for gout.

In uncontrolled diabetes there is carbohydrate intake and glucose is available, but without insulin to push the glucose into the cells, they will act as if there is no glucose and use protein/fat for fuel, producing ketones. High blood sugar + ketones (diabetic ketoacidosis aka DKA) is a very dangerous situation and can be lethal.

In the case of our Survivors, they are probably closer to Atkins AND subcaloric. So there is loss of body fat and lean body mass. Bet they have very stinky breath (ketotic). Stored glucose is gone, body is breaking down muscle (source of protein) to produce enough glucose to maintain stable levels to feed the brain.


Gidget
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Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 6:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the explanation Kona.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, December 12, 2010 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    

quote:

Jane's method more behavioral than physiological. But it's working for her (she's not wasting energy complaining about being hungry).


Um, yeah, wouldn't that be because she was eating ALL BY HERSELF????? :-)