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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 3:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever, pics and transcript from the preview shown at the end of last night's show:
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Transcript:


Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

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Probst [at Immunity Challenge]: Come on in guys!

Probst: With only two episodes left, the stakes are higher than ever.

2
Probst [at Immunity Challenge]: Sash, I'll take back the necklace.

3
Probst: And at the challenge, the winners get enough luxury to keep them strong until the end.

Fabio [at Immunity Challenge]: Ohhhh, man.

Probst: And as for the losers...

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Probst [at Immunity Challenge]: They will be taken and executed.
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Ginger: This episode is where the family visit takes place. Supposedly there is a very emotional reunion between Dan and his family member that it even brings Jeff to tears.

Maybe the family visit is RC, and the above pics from the IC was later ......... or it could be a combination thing. The wording of "they" in the clues throws me for an IC.

Also, this is the episode where Jane gets the boot, and knowing ahead of time, she takes a container of water and douses the fire at camp before they go to TC. Based on Jane getting the boot, I would guess that Jud (Fabio) wins the IN.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 4:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to KiKi over at Survivor Blows, here's the confessionals at the voting booth as Ben gets the boot:
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Dan (Fabio) <says nothing>

Jane (Benrey): Ben, not really who I wanted out tonight, but I had to go with my alliance and they thought you were the biggest threat. But just so you know, you were not my choice tonight.

Fabio (Holly): It's time for you to go. Sorry.

Chase (Benry): Nothing personal at all, man. I love ya to death. Hope we can spend some time after the game together, man.

Benry (Fabio): You can thank your boy Sash for this. He's the one that had to break us up, man.

Holly (Ben): We need to keep our alliance strong and you're just too big of a physical threat.

Sash (Benry): One of the best overall players in the game. A huge physical threat. I'm sorry to see you go home.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 4:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
By the way, did you guys notice that the show opened with a Sear's casting call for Survivor? I can't imagine CBS letting Sear's do that if another Survivor in the future isn't planned. S22 has already been filmed and the players were all out of there back before the big hurricane went through..........so this casting call would have to be for a future season.

Just saying...........

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 4:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
In reading TDT's website, the mention of two different colored hats worn by Jeff, suggests that the pics are:
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an RC and an IC.
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The orange and white is definitely worn when Jeff is taking the necklace off of Sash, so that is the IC.

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This pic has got to be reward and suggests the family visit, which we already know about. The tray of food has 2 glasses on it, so to be shared by 2, and it appears to be on a boat as you can see water, railing, and boat chairs.

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This pic shows a challenge set-up, but not sure which it is for.

Now the "They" I mentioned before makes more sense. More than one winner gets to go on the boat/snack/drink reward......I'll guess 3 couples.
The word executed probably refers to the family member of the losers will be sent back to "wherever" without any contact to the players.

Maybe more info as more pics and transcripts come out.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Ginger, I posted in one of the other spoiler threads where there was a discussion about whether or not Survivor would be back, that Survivor put out a casting call on Facebook earlier this week which led me to believe there were future seasons.

I guess no one read my post.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes, Lexie ....... I probably read it. The problem was that Missyae said the casting people go ahead and do "business as normal" until they are told to cut off, so the casting calls in different cities, and the one I thought you posted about, could have been misleading if the casting agents had not been told to cease. I didn't catch that the one you were talking about was actually by the Survivor people (or rather --- CBS).

Anyway, I was surprised last night to see it on the show at the very beginning, actually on CBS itself........which is what makes me suspect that they probably do have something in the works.

So wipe off that frown, turn it upside down and enjoy the Holidays!!!.........Ginger

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
And here is Jeff's Blog for the week!!!
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RUN SASH RUN!
Like a small town thief running from the local sheriff, this episode started with Sash on the run. Until last week, he had a great game going, but losing Brenda, Purple Kelly and Naonka put him in a deep, deep, deep hole.
I would have never believed that Sash would be able to get himself out of this mess and get back in the game, but he did. I continue to have to eat the words that I said to Sash at the beginning of the game, “Sash, you’ll be the first person voted out.”
Sash is not the most likable guy on the show and I’m not sure exactly why that is, but he is certainly one of the best strategists. More on that later…

REWARD CHALLENGE
Chase continues to be a threat to win his way to the end. It doesn’t mean he’ll win the game, but with Benry gone, his odds of immunity challenges and making it to the end just got a whole lot better.
He absolutely dominated the reward challenge. I said it during the challenge, “It’s like he’d done the challenge before.” It was crazy to watch. It was almost a perfect performance.
Almost.

A LOSE, LOSE DECISION
Chase may have made one mistake at the reward challenge and it may be a costly one. In choosing Jane and Holly to accompany him on the reward he really drew a line in the sand. He pissed off Sash, who thought he would be going on reward, and he left the four other guys behind to wallow in their unhappiness and possibly come together to form an alliance against Chase. Which it appears they did.
I’ve said this many times in these blogs, but winning a reward is sometimes a double-edged sword. On the one hand you usually get to eat some food and that’s very important on day 30 of Survivor. But the downside is you often have to choose someone to go with you and that means leaving others behind.
The distinction with Chase is that he didn’t seem to realize he was making a bad decision until hours later. It’s another reason why Chase needs to win challenges to get to the end because I’m not sure he’s got enough Survivor smarts to get there otherwise.

JANE CRIES
Yet another reason I love this show. The humanity! Jane was so honestly upset at the loss of the chicken that she had a funeral service for the little fella. We all have such different triggers. Some of you probably laughed at Jane for crying over the dead chicken while others probably cried along with her. It doesn’t matter to me who cries so long as somebody is crying.
We’ve been giving chickens as rewards for years and it almost always yields a similar result. A few people want to kill the chicken while at least one person thinks they should keep it as a pet. Either way it prompts discussion and creates conflict. Two good elements for Survivor.
The chicken scene is also an example of the kinds of things that take place on the beach that I am not aware of while we’re shooting. I was actually surprised when I saw this moment. I figured Jane was the type of woman who killed chickens on a daily basis.

PARANOIA IS FULL ON
From here to the end the paranoia level will be 100%. Nobody left in the game can trust anybody else left in the game. There is just no way to anticipate who is going to stay true because everybody appears ready to turn on a dime.
Sash took advantage of this paranoia by trying to corner Chase…

DID CHASE SWEAR ON HIS MOM?
He cornered Chase and made him promise on his mom. He even went so far as to try to get Chase to promise on his deceased father. Again, there will be many different feelings about this strategic approach. Some of you will feel it was a slick and worthy move, while others may think it was taking advantage of a very sensitive topic for Chase. Either way, Sash got a result. Chase swore on his mom and now the question is will he keep his word? If I had to guess, I’d say yes. Despite his wishy-washy ways, I’d be wiling to wager that Chase keeps his word on this one.

IMMUNITY CHALLENGE
That was one of the toughest puzzles we’ve ever done. It was extremely difficult to figure out how the stacks of coins fit together.
INSIGHT
I’ll give you an example of how difficult it was. My dad was visiting location when we were testing this challenge and so we had him do it to see how long it would take him. It took him 23 minutes and this from a guy who had a full belly of food, a good nights sleep and a 40-year engineering background. While I don’t remember the exact time it took the Survivors, it was a lot longer than 23 minutes. In fact, I was worried that they may never finish…and then out of nowhere Sash figured it out.

SASH IS BACK IN CHARGE
The comeback is complete. Sash earned the gold star of the week. It was a masterful display of Survivor prowess. After going to tribal council with immunity around his neck, the hidden immunity idol in his pocket and being the swing vote, he was once again in control of the game.
He may be slightly socially uncomfortable at times but Sash knows his way around Survivor strategy. I think Sash is doing one thing very well and it’s a key to his success: Sash is doing a good job of consistently making his best move based on the assumption that everybody else is going to make their best move. It’s a simple concept but a very good way to play Survivor.
It doesn’t always work. Many times players are too stupid to make their best move, so instead they just…oh, quit for example or make an otherwise ridiculous move. When they do that it screws up the game for somebody who is playing with a decent strategy. But it’s still the best way to play the game. In fact, it’s the only way to play the game. You have to assume that everybody is going to make their best move and then you have to make your move based on that assumed move. Did I just repeat myself? Then it must be important.
My biggest surprise at this point in the game is that nobody is trying to flush the idol from Sash. It’s such a powerful weapon and he’s had it for so long. Then again, even with all this going for him, Sash will have a hard time winning the game because at the end of the day it’s about likability and as discussed earlier, I’m not yet convinced Sash has earned enough good will to pull it out.

BIG VOTE TONIGHT
Taking Benry over Fabio was a big vote. I think Sash made a good move to back the guys.
Jane is now in trouble.
Holly is in trouble.
Fabio is in big trouble.
See ya next week!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
CBS Mis-direction clues for the week:
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A SPECIAL VISIT FROM HOME OFFERS THE FINAL SIX CASTAWAYS INCENTIVE TO WIN, ON "SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA," WEDNESDAY, DEC. 15

"This is Going to Hurt" - After an emotional visit from home, one alliance is faced with a difficult decision to secure their own fate in the game, on SURVIVOR: NICARAGUA, Wednesday, Dec. 15 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
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Ginger: "difficult decision" is probably with Jud (Fabio) winning IC, the 4-way alliance has to figure out which of their own alliance they have to boot. I guess Dan is so far UTR that they don't even consider him.

Kookliebird
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Thursday, December 09, 2010 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
They probably figure it would be easy to win against him.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I wonder what JP is referring to when he says someone is going to be executed

Roxip
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
LOL...chickens?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I read at one of the other sites, that the word is sometimes used in the "family reunion" sense.
For instance, you win, you get to pick two who also get to meet with their loved one, and the other three are executed (meaning they leave the premises and you don't get any time with them at all).

I'm not saying that's what it means. I'm just saying that a couple of other posters at Blows said it, and it sounds reasonable to me.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I thought Jeff was just making a funny when he said that.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever, pics and transcript from the December 15th Family Reunion show:
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Transcript:

Announcer: Only 2 Survivor episodes to go

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Fabio [camera confessional]: I wanna see my family, man.

Announcer: CBS, Wednesday...

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Jeff Probst: Here's your mom...

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Chase: Oh my God.

4
Jeff Probst: Here's your daughter...

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Jeff Probst: ...your son...

Announcer: A family challenge...

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Charles [Holly's husband]: Go Holly!

Announcer: ...brings out the best...

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Probst: I am so touched by the affection.

Announcer: ...and the worst in the Survivors.

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Fabio [camera confessional]: I kinda got played there. He straight up lied to me.

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Dan: Forget you, forget me, ??? it for Jane.

[Jane puts campfire out with bucket of water]

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Jane: By God I started it, I'll put it out.

Costacat
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
So I have to say...

Jane goes out as a total class act. Not! She truly acts like a bitter old woman. I wasn't a fan of hers to start with, and she had done absolutely nothing to make me change my mind. I don't even respect her determination any longer. Bitter party, table of one.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, December 10, 2010 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Jane rules!! I give her major props. I will crack up when she puts the fire out. She has taken care of these duds for weeks and they screw her over.

Costacat
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Friday, December 10, 2010 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Sorry Pamy, but I totally disagree with you. She doesn't rule. She's bitter and angry. And she hasn't been taking care of them... they've all been doing things around camp.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 12:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Why did Jane put out the fire, did they tell her ahead of Tribal Council that she was going home?

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I would sure say it looks that way. That's just another good reason why it is better to blindside. We always see the buddy system where somebody says, "If I'm going, will you tell me? I don't want to be blindsided." Well, if you tell 'em, they can scramble and maybe change things ......... but also, just maybe, they might put your fire out. She's a fiesty one ... that's for sure!

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
It seems to me that the major reason for a blindside is to get out someone who has a HII. I can't remember - not that that is a new thing! - when scrambling has actually been all that effective in changing the outcome at TC.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
DON'T FORGET

Two-hour finale show followed by reunion hour and announcement of the sole survivor of Survivor: Nicaragua is Sunday, 12/19 .... one week from tomorrow (4 days after the next episode on the 15th).

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever, just a little further clarification on the challenges:
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Reward Challenge:

Family Challenge

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Players run up planks and jump into the pool

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Reward Trip takes place on a boat. Six glasses are provided so the winning family pair gets to chose two other family pairs to share the reward

Ginger: So that leaves this set-up on the beach with the hurdles and tables at each end to be the IC. No clue as to whether the family members are still involved or not.
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My personal guess here is that Chase wins and takes Holly and Sash (finally fulfilling his commitment).

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Missyae has posted this on twitter:
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It is time for the Fabio Show to begin on Survivor Nicaragua!!!

Based on that, I feel 100% sure that Fabio wins immunity this episode.

Also, other posters on other sites all seem to agree that it appears Chase does win Reward and takes Holly and Sash plus loved ones with him.

Lostfan
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Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
I hope Sash win reward and DOESNT take Chase .... serve that dude right breaking his word to Sash at last reward ...

and good riddance to Jane :-)

Costacat
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Saturday, December 11, 2010 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
So is this the week that...


...Jane gets the boot? Please oh please let it be this week!