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Alaginger
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Thursday, October 27, 2011 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes, Kooklie ... I believe that is exactly what Jeff said in his interview with EW posted up above. He agrees with you!

Alaginger
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Friday, October 28, 2011 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Cut and pasted from Mikayla's interview with Zap2It:
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Ginger Note: I'll highlight in red the parts I think bear attention!

Last night more than any other night we saw how religious Upolu is as a tribe. Was that going on the whole time or did it really just come on at this point in the season?

"Well, every morning we'd get up and say a prayer, but I watched last night's episode and I was like, 'Holy smokes!' I think the main reason Coach plays up the religious thing is for Brandon's sake. That's the only level he can connect on with Brandon and he's using it to his advantage."

What do you think of Ozzy's big move?

"He's crazy. Aboslutely nuts ... Christine's a powerhouse right now. Physically, running climbing, yes, Ozzy can beat her. But you put it down to a puzzle? Christine's a teacher. That's what she does. She's a mental person. What could happen? They get a puzzle and he's like 'What?' and she knocks it out."

Who are you rooting for to make it to the end?

"Obviously Christine. I told her, give 'em hell. And I told Albert and Sophie, when Christine gets back in this game, you guys better side up with her. I don't care how you want to tell people about it, if you have to lie or whatever, but you have my word she'll be loyal to you. Christine, Albert and Sophie. I really hope they bring it home."

Ginger Note: Okay, I'm confused here. If Ozzy wins the RI and gets his plan into motion, how come Mikayla is still rooting for Christine after watching Wednesday night's show? Does that mean that Mikayla was the last one to leave RI and not be on the jury? Because if Christine loses to Ozzy, you would think that Mikayla and Christine met up at the Ponderosa before getting out of the area to start making room for the jury! This last statement of hers has thrown me for a loop.
1) Maybe Christine is the first member of the jury and does not meet up with Mikayla. or 2) Maybe Christine loses to Ozzy, but the other losers have already been moved out, and Christine is treated separately. or 3) Ozzy loses to Christine.

Can't wait now (for sure) to get the spoiler info from Maxx (tonight or tomorrow, at the latest).

Alaginger
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Friday, October 28, 2011 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
HOT OFF THE PRESS - HERE IT IS!!!

Maxx Fisher has posted the spoilers early this week:
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OMG, OMG, OMG ...... okay, calm down, Ginger
I am in such shock!!!

Here are the MF Spoilers:

1) Ozzy does beat Christine at RI and she goes home
2) Ozzy does yell at Cochran at the RI challenge to put on a show
3) The tribes do merge
4) Cochran does give the idol back to Ozzy
5) Ozzy wins the first Individual Immunity Challenge
6) Cochran flips to Upolu
7) Keith gets sent to RI

Reading through what Maxx says, it appears that Upolu is really not sold on Ozzy's acting. The count is 6 to 6, and Ozzy on Savaii has individual immunity. Savaii thinks that Whitney is being targetted, so the plan is for Ozzy to give Whitney the Hidden II or play it for her. But, Cochran doesn't like the 6 to 6 odds, and does a flip. Keith is voted out, 7 to 5.

Kookliebird
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Friday, October 28, 2011 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Wow, that's really different from the prior speculations.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 28, 2011 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Maxx later added this:
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Savaii's 5 votes were against Albert

And, the Savaii's were counting on a tie to be settled with a purple rock, and figured they had the advantage with Ozzy and Whitney both having immunity, but Cochran didn't like the odds with the purple rock.

So, seems like both sides were going after the strongest player that didn't have immunity.

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 29, 2011 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever for pics and transcript from Episode 8:
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Transcript:

Announcer: For the first time, ever...

Ozzy (at Episode 7 Tribal Council): I'm putting my life on the line.

Announcer: ...a power player asks to be voted off. Now Ozzy will have to crank it up to survive.

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Jeff Probst (at Episode 8 Redemption Island duel): One of you will get back in this game.

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Announcer: Plus, the moment the two tribes have been waiting for. The merge.

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Cochran (camera confessional): Now it's time for me to become the double agent I was born to be.

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Announcer: Will the nerd play everyone?

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Coach (camera confessional): He's lying through his teeth.

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Announcer: Or will he get caught?

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Cochran: I can completely jump ship. I finally feel like I'm in control of my fate.

Kappy
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Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    


Bummer! I was so excited at the thought of Ozzy never returning. Silly me - Of course the producers would never let that happen. Didn't he do the same key challenge in his last season or the one before that?

Seamonkey
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Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Probably, but that same challenge is used pretty often on most seasons, so I doubt that they just decided to use it because Ozzy went to Redemption..

Roro66
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Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roro66 a private message Print Post    
This season has been a really good one I think. Thanks again Ginger.! you rock.

Roro66
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Sunday, October 30, 2011 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roro66 a private message Print Post    
Ginger, If you look at fantasysurviver.net they ask you questions and they have ozzy at the top in black n white and christine in color still and don't have ozzy's name even for a pick. Thought you might like to know.

Alaginger
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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks Roro ... I'll check it out.

The only other things I have seen, so far, are:

1) They must merge at the Savaii Camp, because (as pointed out over at Survivor Blows) Cochran is sitting in his tree stump for the confessional in the picture up above.

2) Over at Survivor Fever they have updated their Boot List and show everybody as safe or very safe except Keith (so sounds like they go right along with the spoiler Maxx).

3) Merge color is yellow.

4) Transcript appeared to say that Coach did not believe Cochran, but those that have seen the live video of the promo say that it is Ozzy that he does not believe.

Alaginger
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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Roro ... I don't know what that means, because it doesn't match up with what is already known. Maybe they did that before the spoiler became available and since it is a game, and some have already played, they can't change it.

I'm not a member there.......so do not want to venture any further. If you see anything more, post it here for us.........thanks!

Biscottiii
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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Maybe LALALA,,

Transcript appeared to say that Coach did not believe Cochran, but those that have seen the live video of the promo say that it is Ozzy that he does not believe.

perhaps that is Coach's response to Ozzy's 'over-acting' like pretending to dislike his former team.

Seamonkey
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Monday, October 31, 2011 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Clearly they are misleading, or attempting to mislead and Coach isn't referring to Cochran (unfortunately.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The only thing new I am seeing this morning is some clarification by Maxx Fisher as to the TC in Episode 8. He says there have been questions about purple rocks and ties and whatever, and feels clarification is due.

He wants us to understand that Keith is voted out by 1 vote. It is not a tie and there are no purple rocks. The Savaii were trying to get the Upolu to target Whitney so they could use the HIdden II on her, and in the worse case scenario they were figuring a tie and the usage of purple rocks, but figured if it came down to that, they had the advantage with Ozzy having immunity and Whitney also having immunity. But, it never comes down to that because the vote to boot Keith is 7 to 5. That one lone vote for Keith by Cochran does it.

Ginger Note: I think this is what we all thought all along, but since Maxx was clarifying it for others, I thought I should put that in here in case there were any questions.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up at Survivor Blows, done this week by Tribephyl, and it is hilarious......but the spoiling is exactly what we know already.

But I just had to bring this picture over here and hope that it will come up. With what we know about who gets sent to RI this week, I think this comical picture of Keith at the merge says it all (WATCH YOUR BACK!!!)

keith.gif

Alaginger
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oooops!!!..I see something else by Maxx Fisher

He is saying that he does not know if the vote if 7 to 5, or if it is 6 to 5 to 1. Regardless, Keith goes to RI.

So much for clarification, now I've had to clarify the clarification (LOL). And, if needs be, I'll clarify the clarification of the clarification ... but I hope it doesn't come to that!!!

Scooterrific
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
LOL Ginger!!! Thank you for, er, clarifying...twice.

Iluvreality
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Pretty bad...I had to check the banner to see who Keith was. This is the first season that I don't know all the people's names. Just kinda a boring season for me.

Seamonkey
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I did the SAME thing this morning!! Had to pull up the banner and check on who the heck was Keith (uh, did they bring back the chef?)

Roxip
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Keith is the hot guy.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
What??? You don't think Rick or Brandon are hot? (LOL)

Roxip
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Well okay, I do have a thing for cowboys, so in a dark bar I might find Rick attractive...it all depends on the cut of the jeans and the way he can dance.

But Keith is purty.

No bar dark enough to make Brandon hot.

Biscottiii
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Tuesday, November 01, 2011 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    

No bar dark enough to make Brandon hot.

You got THAT right Roxip. That short dude just creeps me out. Period.

Alaginger
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
(LOL) I thought I might get a reaction outta that!

New pictures and transcript up over at Survivor Fever:
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Transcript:

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Jeff Probst: We'll now bring in the competitors for today's duel. Christine in a battle against Ozzy, voted out at the last tribal council. Welcome to Redemption Island Arena. Both tribes are here to witness today's duel.

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Jeff: Ozzy are you surprised to find yourself on Redemption Island?

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Ozzy: Uhhh.. I mean...I gave pretty everything to my tribe. And then we lose one challenge because somebody can't operate a clip. And that ends up being the person that sends me here. You play the idol, you don't even...I know somebody else probably knew that you had it. As far as I'm concerned tribe boundaries, I mean, were at the merge, they don't exist anymore. It's all one for one and whoever sticks together from this point on makes it furtherest in the game.

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Albert [shakes his head and whispers to Coach]: I don't buy it.

Ozzy: But I thrive on the pressure to come back into the game...for revenge, basically.

Iluvreality
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Wednesday, November 02, 2011 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Brandon has "short man sydrome" for sure. I will be so glad when he leaves.
Don't really think Keith is all that hot. I do think his tattoo on his side of the map/compass is very interesting. From a distance looks like very good work.
Can't wait for tonight.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hmmmm! Our spoiler Maxx Fisher had all the final answers right, but the information of how we got there, was incomplete. I think he is only being fed the results and not a lot of the in-between, which is probably why he didn't know if the vote was going to be 7-5, or 6-5-1.

He didn't mention anything about there being two immunity necklaces awarded. And the vote wound up being a 6-6 tie, and then a 6-4 boot, since Rick and Keith could not vote the 2nd time around.

Still, the bootie, the merge, who flipped, Ozzy winning immunity, and who got sent to RI was correct.

Roxip
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Ozzy's plan was pretty stupid in the long run. Should have sent Cochran to RI, let him battle Christine, who undoubtedly has no loyalty to her former tribe no matter what, and then whomever returned would have been up for grabs. Why would Christine have returned to Upolo, since both tribes knew that her former tribemates had rooted against her in the duels? Ozzy and thinking don't really go well together.

Lexie_girl
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Roxip, ITA that was one of the most boneheaded moves to be made in the history of Survivor. Definitely in the Top 10.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 03, 2011 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The only thing I can think of about Christine is that 1) Mikayla said in her exit interview that she talked to Christine about joining up with Albert and Sophie, and that she had talked to them about if Christine came back and joined with them she would remain loyal.......and 2) Christine said in one of her deleted scenes in the Survivor Insider that if she went back she didn't know who she would align with and it would depend on who offered her the best deal.

So, Christine joining the Savaii tribe was not a "sure thing".