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Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I just read that interview with Coach. He really is full of himself!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Russell kept Parvati in the game at one point by giving her the II. That was a huge play.

I enjoyed Russell because he brought a new dimension to the game. I hope he realizes it is a game and is different in real life.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Except Parvati gave away that idol (along with another one that she had that he didn't know about), so it didn't help her stay in the game.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I remember a tribal council where Russell saved Parvati by giving her an Idol. Jeff kept saying "Another vote for Parvati. Does not count." It was amazing. At the end you could see Parvati saying with an amazed expression, "What just happened here?"

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Oh, yeah, the tribal council where Tyson managed to vote himself out!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 4:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Kar, you are correct that the third time Russell was on he did the worst. His team threw the challenge so they could vote him out. He was the first one out on his team.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 4:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Oh yes. And that Russell boot was downright SWEET! People may squabble about whether they weakened their team, but IMO having Russell endlessly sabotage would have left them just as weak.

IMO unload the vicious troll. I would have too!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - I forgot about Tyson. Boston Rob must have felt like kicking him. Rob had Russell set up to go and Tyson totally and inexplicably messed it up. One of the all time best Tribal Councils.

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
The second time Russell was on, was the All Stars. And Sandra won that one! Remember? Parvati was second, and Russell came in third! Sandra burned Russell's cap, and he had to go to council bald. She totally outplayed Russell. Sandra's my favorite! And the only 2 time winner!

Iluvreality
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05-08-2011

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Loved Sandra! Not physically great in challenges but knew how to work people.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Sandra has been my absolute favorite Survivor since the first show of Pearl Island. She was the only one who spoke Spanish and negotiated her tribe's trades with the locals. Later, she was the only one to call BS on Johnny unFairplay's dead grandma ploy. If I ever had a dispute with someone, I'd want her on my side. She really does "get" people.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I, for one, would like to see a show like Survivor go back to its original concept and not recycle anyone. I think everyone should have an equal chance from the very beginning. I watch to see how unknown people handle the stresses and challenges of the situation, not to see past characters come back to get more of their 15 minutes of fame. Do you think they read these boards and understand that to see any Hantz, Rob, Coach, Parvati, etc. back would bring down their show?

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think they read the ratings, and disregard individual opinions.

And the ratings for Russell were about the same as the seasons on either side, as I recall.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Sandra was everything Russell wasn't and that's why he lost twice and she won twice ;).

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Survivor Samoa (Russell's first season) was the lowest watched season ever I think, and although the premiere for the Heroes vs Villains was a bit higher the finale was lower. I don't know why they think he's such a pull.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Actually, this last season had the lowest ratings ever. :-)

Ratings have been falling every season, and Samoa and Heroes/Villains were the bottom, with a very small rebound for Nicaragua; and then even lower for this season.

That does seem to make the argument that maybe veterans are the problem, but you also have to analyze the competition, and whether the show is just worn out. The small jump for Nicaragua wasn't really much to go on.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I wonder how the move to Wednesday played into this.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Hard to say, Nicaragua was the first season in the move, and it did better than the Heroes/Villains.

Didn't help the Coach/Ozzy season apparently.

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
Samoa was low because of Russell. Like I mentioned earlier, I've been watching since the first season, and Samoa was the only one I turned off, and didn't even watch the finale. The reason I turned off was because I hated watching Russell. Heroes/Villians, I also disliked because of the control of Rob. I was a huge Rob fan, but I wish they had just given him the Million dollars. Instead I had to watch his his total control of the game, even to the extent that his tribe held hands to go to the potty! What a joke that season was also! And if this season is down, its because of Coach. TPTB don't really know who we like, and apparently don't care! If they wanted Survivor to be better, they should show more than 1 episode a week. I'm watching Big Brother's 3 episodes a week, then go to Survivor with 1 episode. And that episode is spent on old players instead of watching the emotional development of the new players. And, yes, I enjoyed the Thursday time slot, but Big Bang is on now, and I would rather watch BB than Coach, or Russell, or Hantz 2.0, or the same old competitions crammed into 1 hour per week.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Most show's ratings tend to deteriorate over time. The fact that Survivor is still so strong is amazing. The competition this season was fairly tough as well as it was going up against X-Factor which was highly promoted.

Jewels
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09-22-2000

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jewels a private message Print Post    
I remember right after the finale of Season 1 my husband and I said, "yeah, it was all right, I might watch another." ....we haven't missed one since. This show sucks you in sometimes no matter who is playing!

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
I haven't missed a season, either.
And I had to laugh at that little thug Russell finding all those idols, but I despised him for the venomous remarks he said about women.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my fav exit interview site:

"Ozzy" Oscar Lusth: I just crumbled under the 'Survivor' pressure
http://realitytvworld.com/news/ozzy-oscar-lusth-i-just-crumbled-under-survivor-pressure--12986.php

Brandon Hantz: My family hated my crying the most on 'Survivor'
http://realitytvworld.com/news/brandon-hantz-my-family-hated-my-crying-most-on-survivor-12985.php

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Thanks Biscottii-- both interesting interviews. I like each of them more after reading it.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 22, 2011 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Yes, I liked them better too. Felt they were being honest - unlike Coach Benjamin's interview.