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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 7:53 am
All Coach had to do to win was come off his high moral ground pedastal and fess up to his true manipulations...but he still couldn't do it at the end...I truly think that he would have gotten more votes than Sophie (who did come off entitled and bratty in this last episode by the way, IMO). Still love Ozzy...would love to see him in a game where survival truly is the focus of the game. Besides, I just like looking at him.
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:05 am
I completely forgot the finale was on last night until this morning, and didn't watch. Did holiday baking last night and watched Next Iron Chef. Surprised to read that Sophie won.
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Michaelwinicki
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:08 am
You know Roxip, I was expecting that, i.e. coach actually saying something to the affect that a true "warrior" knows that beating an opponent is many times mental and not just physical– but he just couldn't do it... For whatever reason. Yeah Sophie did come off as sort of isolating herself, but I think even she could have had a stronger final tribal by saying something to the affect of, "Hey look at all the challenges I won, and it was me who sent Ozzie packing", which really was quite an accomplishment. I didn't think she played that up enough. But it didn't matter in the end. Albert was just kinda there. He talked a good game at times and you kept waiting for him to make the "big move" (like get rid of Coach) but he never pulled the trigger– And that cost him.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:16 am
I don't understand the fuss over Sophie asking Albert to drop his tiles and help her when she was close to defeating Ozzy. They all wanted Ozzy gone and the only way that was going to happen was someone else winning the Immunity Idol. It was a perfectly logical request. Anyway, I'm happy Sophie won and I enjoyed the season. I believe Survivor is a game and I don't stress a lot over it. I just enjoy it.
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Holly
Member
07-21-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:26 am
Coach is simply an insufferable fool. He looked like a ten-cent gigolo on the reunion show with his greased-back hair and orange floral shirt. I'm so glad he didn't win. Russell Hantz reminds me of a mentally unbalanced thug. His nephew, however, is simply mentally unbalanced. Glad Ozzy won the fan favorite. (They gave him way too much talking time though.) As for Probst...he's looking more foolish with each season, losing the place on what/who he thinks "makes good television". (God, I wish that phrase had never been coined. Hate it.) Overall? Blech. I feel like I just gorged on junk food for the brain and hope I never, ever see Benjamin, Cochran, or Brandon again.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:49 am
Odd that all of a sudden, Cochran didn't look pale as a ghost.. did he get a spray tan? Not odd really, he says he reads the internet..and surely he saw all the disgusting hateful posts about him being so white, etc.. it probably hurt him a bit I wish Cochran could just be confident I bet he does too. Some people just aren't As for Jeff telling him he would be dating by now He asked if he "was" dating...not that he should/would be. I'm happy for Sophie. Kinda surprised ALbert didn't get any votes and that Coach got three. That blew me away. I feel so bad for Brandon. What a family. I can guarantee that if Russell shows up on Survivor again, it will be the first season I miss. Wish the finale wasn't so much about Ozzy. Glad its over..
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Michaelwinicki
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:50 am
Holly, I thnk you nailed it pretty well... Coach was so full of it. He talked about wanting to take the best-players to the end, but as soon as it looked like Ozzy was going to be one of those, old Coach decided it was better to coward out and have a better shot a winning the million.
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:11 am
I have always thought coach was full of it!!! he is the biggest joke... so very glad he didnt win. But really wished he didnt get any votes- I wasnt a big sofi fan, she just seems very cold and kind of maggie-ish to me - VERY GLAD OZZY WON THE FAN $$$$$ No wonder Brandan is the way he is - his family is a joke- not any of them were proud of him for spending this long on the show- my God. Great family support team he has and had growing up- its a no brainer. I guess Russell only showed up for his extra 5 min, certainly not to support his nephew- do not bring him back next season!!! I dont get it, so we dont actually know where the next survivor is going to take place - its called "one world" did they give the location and I missed it somehow? so what happened to "mark, makayla, elyse and selmar??? they didnt even get a mention - wow!!! Maybe if coach would have shut up long enouph, there would have been time. ps- and YES - coach did look like a ten-cent gigolo on the reunion show with his greased-back hair and orange floral shirt.
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Jewels
Member
09-22-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:20 am
Maybe if coach would have shut up long enouph, there would have been time. If Coach would have shut up? LOL! I was surprised how long they let Ozzy drone on and on about how amazing he was. I think he was auditioning personally. 
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:22 am
The thing about the reunion is that it is packed with commercials. Tons and tons of commercials. I haven't clocked it, but by the time they start talking to people, there isn't much time left at all. Each and every year they miss many people and it's disappointing. But, at least we get to hear from some of them. We don't get anything like that with TAR.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:23 am
Going against the flow here, I enjoyed Coach this season on Survivor. I enjoy big, flamboyant, interesting characters and I'd find the show boring without them. LOL - For example, it's not like we're spending a lot of time talking here about Rick.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:25 am
Lol Jimmer...I concur.
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Jewels
Member
09-22-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:32 am
I don't have a problem with Coach. If he would have picked the strongest player to go to the end he would be being picked apart by everyone this morning for not staying loyal to his original alliance. It wouldn't have mattered what decision he made.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:34 am
Hahaha EXACTLY Jewels!! (about Ozzy)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:43 am
I didn't have a problem with Coach either. It was fascinating to me to see how he had changed his approach after three times through, yet still couldn't quite understand the game. Thing is, if you are a repeat player, you have to have a different game each time. I like that he seems more settled, and I was rooting for him till I saw the fist pump when he got the first vote. In the end, I guess Sophie was the best winner of the three, but I never really warmed up to her either. Ozzy did talk an awful lot. Um, babble even. LOL Cochran was certainly much more eloquent in this setting than on the show. I think he'll do fine once he gets over the hurt of how so many people perceived him. He has to realize that they perceive only a caricature of him, not the real guy. In fact they all do. I just think this game lays you so raw. Most of us hide our less seemly sides, and so we don't ever have to deal with the kind of criticism they get from playing this game, that hides nothing. But we all have our Ozzy/Cochran/Coach characteristics - those sides of ourselves that aren't as pretty as we'd like. 
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:49 am
But one thing I did notice - they gave Sophie the check last night - I'm assuming she didn't appear on any of the morning shows this morning - wonder if it would have been different if one of the most "memorable" characters had won.
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Michaelwinicki
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:54 am
Oh definitely coach made it more interesting... It's just he preaches the high moral, be an upstanding warrior stuff, until the going gets tough and he then tosses all that under the bus! Coach should have just stopped the warrior-malarky and simply said, hey, I'm going to do what I have to in order to win a $1,000,000. I mean he was anyway! But the waffling made him look weak. I don't think Coach would have gotten much hate about abandoing his original alliance to take Ozzie... I mean it's not like Coach hadn't been cutting off his alliance members already. But there would have been folks that would have referred to him as kind of a doofus for taking a guy (Ozzy) who was clearly going to clean his clock for him when it came time for the voting– And Coach was smart enough to know that. It was referenced on the reunion show about a Coach taking Rick and dumping Sophie... The only problem with that is that no one was going to beat Ozzy in the last challenge except Sophie. Rick hadn't won anything. Albert wasn't good at challenges and Coach for all his bravado isn't good at challenges. Coach could have taken anyone else along with him to the final 3, but as long as Ozzy was there, Ozzy was going to win.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:58 am
Yeah, what Karuuna and Jimmer said. And like I was telling a friend this morning, if I had a family like the Hantzes, I would disown them before they disowned me over Survivor. I disagree with whoever upthread said Brandon is mentally unbalanced. He is obviously the most normal out of the Hantz bunch. However, he is obviously working on whatever demons he has. I think he is very conflicted because he wants to love his family and be loved by them, but it's not happening. The family visit showed that his father and Russell are exactly alike. If I were in Brandon's shoes, I would take my wife and kids and leave and never look back. I suspect Brandon would be much happier and able to deal with his issues if he wasn't surrounded by his father, uncle and the rest of the Hantz clan.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:02 am
ITA Lexie.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:09 am
I'm just catching up and watching the reunion show now. Can we say, "enough air time for Ozzie!!!!" now? I've never seen them give so much time to one player. More comments coming as I continue this saga.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:09 am
I don't understand the fuss over Sophie asking Albert to drop his tiles and help her when she was close to defeating Ozzy. They all wanted Ozzy gone and the only way that was going to happen was someone else winning the Immunity Idol. It was a perfectly logical request. ITA I don't understand why people saw it as her being a brat. The point of the challenge was to get rid of Ozzie. It didn't matter which of the three won. Of course Jeff would have stopped him, but it was a good idea on her part. During that last challenge it seemed to me that Albert was doing his best to get rid of Sophie. I think he knew that if she got to the end she would win. Too bad for him because if Ozzie had beaten her he would have won the whole thing. Albert never had a chance.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:20 am
I realized that Russell still makes me puke! Giving him "30 seconds" was too long! I hope, and pray, that Brandon continues to grow in his faith and love of his immediate family and that he can become whole and healed from the damages of his bio family.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:25 am
I don't know whether this has already been asked, but do we know where "Survivor: One World" was filmed? Or does that belong in spoilers?
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:30 am
Tish: I posted what I found out in the spoiler thread. Check there for answer.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Monday, December 19, 2011 - 10:35 am
Next season's show is probably the next island over & was filmed at the same time to cut costs. Remember when they did 2 shows on islands over Panama.
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