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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever, Pics and transcript for next week's show:
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But first, Jeff's tout for next week was: "The 1st alliance betrayal and another Brandon breakdown."



Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...at Savaii, the new mastermind is...

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Cochran (shaking hands with Jim): Alright, it's a done deal.

Probst: ...Cochran.

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Cochran (camera confessional): This is the perfect opportunity to devastate Ozzy.

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Jim (talking to Cochran, making boxing movements): It's a Survivor move.

Cochran: Yeah, yeah, I know.

Probst: And Brandon's paranoia hits new heights.

Brandon (talking to Coach): We've got a problem on our hands. Albert, Mikayla and Sophie have something going on.

Sophie (camera confessional): Brandon is just a small Russell Hantz.

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to James Barber at Survivor Sucks for the transcript of a deleted scene from Episode 3 of Christine at RI after Semhar has gone:
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Christine fills us in on her Redemption Island experience.
"Semhar was so sweet yesterday at the duel. She lost and she knew she was going home, and she turned to me and gave me her sweater. I tell you, it saved me last night, when my fire went out and it got cold. I thought of her and silently thanked her."
(cut)
"I'm settling into C block, as I call it, very well. I'm adjusting very nicely. I can almost, almost, say I like it."
(cut)
"I think I'm getting stronger out here, because I'm doing things by myself, on my own, the way I want to do them. I think that helps me mentally."
(cut)
"The hardest thing out here at C block is not talking to somebody. A little conversation would be nice. Everything else I'm adjusting to nicely."

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Interview with Jeff Probst by Dalton Ross of EW.com after Epidose 3:
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Jeff Probst on episode 3 of 'Survivor: South Pacific'
by Dalton Ross

Each week, host Jeff Probst answers a few questions about the most recent episode of Survivor: South Pacific.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Every season when I talk to the contestants before the game starts they go on about all these things that they are not going to reveal to the other players. And then they get out there and can’t help themselves. The latest example was Brandon telling his entire tribe about being Russell’s nephew, which he promised he wouldn’t do. Why can’t these people zip their lips? Is it a lack of discipline? And seeing as how people seem to have such a hard time keeping secrets about themselves, do you think contestants are better off just telling the truth from the get-go as opposed to having to come clean or get caught in a lie later?

JEFF PROBST: I think the answer to this question is the reason reality works in general – people want to talk about themselves. Whenever this topic comes up in casting and someone says “I’m not gonna tell anybody I’m a doctor,” I immediately say, “You won’t be able to help yourself.” People just want to talk and they want to share who they are and their accomplishments. In Brandon’s case, the guy is just so conflicted he doesn’t know what to do and as a result he’s reacting rather than acting and everybody sees it. It’s killing his game right now but it’s making him a candidate to take to the end because I don’t think he can win…at this point, anyway.

EW: Semhar is the first person to exit the game, as you predicted before the season started. (Good call!) So now I’m going to put you on the spot: Which contestant from which season were you most sorry to see go out first? (My vote goes to Francesca from Redemption Island.)

JP: Hmm good question.. and good guess as to my answer, but you’re wrong! I did like Francesca and would actually like to see her back on the show, but my biggest disappointment was seeing Jessica DeBen from Survivor: Fiji being voted off first. I really liked her style. She’s attractive, she seemed to have a good sense of herself. Then again, maybe it was better for her that she was voted off. Maybe she was too normal.

EW: Do you ever want to exercise any sort of veto power over self-appointed nicknames? For example, I have to imagine you felt a tad awkward having to say, “Papa Bear, the tribe has spoken.”

JP: Dalton, you’re a funny dude and pretty aware. I think Papa Bear was the toughest of all the nicknames we’ve had on the show. Something about it just felt slightly wrong, or like I was saying something that was not quite appropriate for Survivor. Ask me this question at the end of next season, you may get a different answer.

EW: Don’t you dare go anywhere until you tease us up good for next week!

JP: We revisit a classic challenge and at least one Survivor has a chance to break a record set years ago by Rupert “America’s Choice” Boneham.

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okey-Dokey ... some speculation going on that makes a lot of sense regarding the Episode 4 challenge.
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In the pre-episode/season pictures there are 3 pics that have been spotted:
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Albert (Upolu)

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Brandon (Upolu)

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Dawn (Savaii)

These 3 pictures coupled with the clue about somebody getting a chance to beat Rupert's previous record set years ago, causes our analytical buddies over at Survivor Blows to speculate that the challenge is the weights added to bars on the shoulders. rupert was holding up 220 pounds when he dropped out, so that's the record to match/break.

Dawn's bio says that she has been known to lift or press or hold weights (I don't know all those right words ... but you get my drift).

Also, in the pics you can see they have padded jackets on in order to lift/hold the weights without damage.

In the pics, it appears that Albert and Brandon from the Upolu Tribe are the males to hold the weights, and there should be one female to off-set Dawn on the other tribe (Sophie???)

On the other Tribe, two males to offset Albert and Brandon would be Jim and Keith (or Ozzy?).

The pics make it appear that Albert is probably the one that is trying to beat Rupert's record, and is struggling.

Speculation is that Dawn looks very happy, and the head near her belongs to Jim, and in the moving video of the opening scenes where the pics come from, they said it looked like Jim was almost ready to pick Dawn up.

So, speculation is rampant that Savaii will win the challenge and that Dawn is the hero of the day. Don't forget that the other players have to strategize where to put the weights, and my guess is that they have put the weights on the two guys, and let Dawn go for awhile, and then at the end the amount of weight she can hold is a winner compared to Albert's (at that point) trying to hold up 220 pounds.

When the pics comes out, we will see if any of this adds up.

And if Upolu is going to TC, Stacey is on shaky ground!

Roxip
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I sincerely hope that the forecasting done by CBS is wrong because (1) I love watching Ozzy on Survivor and (2) Jim was anxious to get rid of Papa Bear because he was holding back the tribe...so for whatever reason would he be willing to get rid of a player who is (a) extremely strong in challenges, (b) part of his alliance, and (c) has a good chance of surviving redemption island for a very weak player at this point in the game? There is a time and a place to get rid of Ozzy but I would think it was too early.

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Roxip ... I think it is CBS Misdirection ... speaking of which, here are the CBS Misdirection clues:
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A CASTAWAY TURNS ON HIS ALLIANCE AND TEAMS UP WITH AN UNLIKELY TRIBE MEMBER, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, OCT. 5

"Survivalism" - One castaway is brought to tears when confronted with his past during an emotional tribal council, and another turns on his alliance and teams up with an unlikely tribe member. Meanwhile on Redemption Island, the second castaway is sent home, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Oct. 5 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

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If it is Brandon confronted with the past at a TC and brought to tears, it is definitely the Upolu at TC from having lost the challenge. But, I think Stacey is on the chopping block (the outside of the 5-alliance) more than Brandon is.

The other part of the clue probably has to do with the pics and refers to Jim and Cochran, but since they don't go to TC, the teaming up probably doesn't have much to do with this Episode.

Still way too soon to be sure of anything!

Alaginger
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Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
MaxxFisher, who so far has been 3 for 3, says he might have some spoiling info on Saturday, so I'll be watching for it!

Alaginger
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Friday, September 30, 2011 - 4:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
In one of the exit interviews with Semhar, we get a little more insight regarding Jim:
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First off ... Semhar said the hardest thing on the island for her was the mosquitoes, and the humidity.

She also says that when choices were being made as to who would throw coconuts, Jim was picked to throw, and he threw up his hands and said he didn't want to do it, so she volunteered.

Here's a couple of quotes from her interview:
TVGuide.com: There was obviously a little tension between you and Jim. When you found out that he was not a "teacher" like he claimed, and actually in the medical marijuana dispensary business, what was your reaction?

Semhar: Literally my mouth dropped open when I saw that. It was a huge surprise. Huge. I had no idea that Jim was such a schemer. We thought he was like, a pervert teacher. He was always talking about girls and that was disgusting to us. We were like "God, does he, like, date his students? Should they be taking him to jail right now?"

TVGuide.com: So what do you think about the "lying about your profession" strategy?

Semhar: As the first person voted off, I can't exactly say what is stupid, but I will say that I think we all would have been a lot closer and cooler with him had we known what he really did. I knew something was off about Jim the second that I met him. I got bad vibes from him. He has an extremely fake smile and the things that come out of his mouth...you look at him and you're like, "Are you serious right now?" He totally loves attention.

Alaginger
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Friday, September 30, 2011 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
And once again we are thankful to Survivor Fever for pics and transcript:
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Obviously, the challenge is the weights, and that is the one the Rupert held the record at 220 pounds, and somebody gets a chance to beat it. Didn't say that the person did beat it.

Transcript:

Announcer: The new Survivor is better than ever. Coach and Ozzy are fierce competitors.

Ozzy (camera confessional): I try to think a few steps ahead.

Announcer: But can they keep their tribe united?

Brandon (talking to Coach): We've got a problem on our hands.

Coach: Stop! This game is going to get so much crazier than this.

Announcer: And loyal?

Jim (talking with Cochran): i hate doing this. Do I make a move against Ozzy?

Cochran: I've been dying to be a part of something like this.

Jim (Jim and Cochran shake hands): Me and you?

Cochran: Done deal.

Announcer: Just wait...

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Jim (holding sand bag weights): Ohhhhh!

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Announcer: ...til you see what happens.

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Mikayla: Hold it, baby!

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Coach (camera confessional): This is my game and I can't let anybody mess it up.

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
It's Saturday, and as promised, Maxx Fisher has his spoilers up. Don't read further if you do not want to know......
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Per Maxx Fisher

Christine beats Papa Bear over at Redemption Island
Savaii wins the RC/IC
Upolu goes to TC
Stacey is sent to Redemption Island

Plus: Jim and Cochran do form an alliance, and Brandon does cry at TC.

Biscottiii
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Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Alaginger - Friday, September 30, 2011 - 3:42 pm

If you look at the 2nd pic, just under "Jim (holding sand bag weights): Ohhhhh!"

Where the guys are holding the weight pole on their neck/shoulders, Dawn is using her upper arms to carry the weight. If she has previous weight lifting experience that could be key to her potential success.

Thanks Ginger for all the spoiling. I just love these threads!

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes, Bisc ... her bio says that she does have weight-lifting experience

...and from the happy look on her face, I think she saves the day for Savaii.

Alaginger
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Monday, October 03, 2011 - 9:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
No sense bringing over more pics, because this transcript from Survivor Fever spells out who the weight-bearers are from each tribe:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Alright, we have our weight bearers. For Savaii, Keith, Dawn and Jim. For Upolu we have Brandon, Stacey and Albert.

Jeff (talking to weight loaders): You will assign weight to one person of the opposing tribe. Savaii, who are you going to put the weight on first?

Ozzy: We'll go with Albert first.

Jeff: Upolu?

Mikayla: Keith.

Jeff: Okay, load the weight. Each bag weighs ten pounds. So every round you are putting 20 pounds on somebody. Alright, here we go, three, two, one. Drop the weight. That is how it goes. Here we go, next round. Upolu, where are you putting weight?

Edna: Jim.

Jeff: Jim's gettin' weight.

Ozzy: Brandon.

Jeff: And Brandon is getting weight.

Jim: I just spent 11 days dropping 20 pounds.

Jeff: Alright, here we go, three, two, one. Release the weight.

Jeff: Savaii, who are you going to put weight on?

Ozzy: Stacey.

Jeff: Upolu?

Mikayla: Dawn.

Jeff: Both tribes spreading the weight around early in this challenge.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up over at Survivor Blows, done this week by Flowerpower.
The analytical picture and clue solving done there matches right up with what the spoiler Maxx Fisher said and we already know:
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Christine beats Papa Bear at RI
Savaii wins the challenge which is weight bearing.
Upolu goes to TC and Stacey is sent to RI

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
By process of elimination, and now by picture confirmation, we know who sits out the challenge:
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It's Rick for Upolu

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 04, 2011 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The Episode 4 Press Release pictures are out, and we can see the challenge at RI between Papa Bear and Christine.
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Looks to me like Christine is tossing black bags and Papa Bear is tossing white bags. Appears the object is to get one bag each of your color on top of the pedestals. If my eyes do not deceive
me I see 1 black bag on a pedestal more than I do white...and Christine is suppose to win this challenge.

Alaginger
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Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Aha ... our analytical friends have made another notice from going over the pictures:
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The winning team not only gets immunity, but they also get a cage of chickens.

Mamabatsy
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Wednesday, October 05, 2011 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Chickens are always fun. There is usually one person who wants them as pets, several who want to save them for eggs and several who just want to eat them. Should be interesting.