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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Me either, Jimmer! There is usually some redeeming feature about the show, and, when I don't find my enjoyment there, I find it here at TVCH!!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I just don't see it happening. I can't see Brandon putting himself through that again and even though Russell said last season was his final season, I don't think his pride could withstand being the first one voted out of his tribe... AGAIN.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Brandon has said in interviews that he will be on the show again. The Rob/Russell season was set up after the challenge issued at the Heroes vs. Villains finale, and since I don't believe anything Russell says, I'm pretty sure that the next season to be filmed (not this next season obviously!) will be Hantz v. Hantz. I'll hate it, but I'll watch and hope they both get voted out early.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I think that H vs H may be beneficial for the little guy. His team MIGHT rally round him to vanquish the bullying uncle. On the other hand, do I really want to see the ugly family dynamics of these pathetic people displayed for our 'entertainment'? Not really.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I think they are losing sight of the original intentions of this show, which is what made it so unique and enjoyable. I hate it when they presume to know what WE want. Maybe they should put a vote out there like they do for fan favorite. I'm betting that most people would want a clean slate of characters!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
For sure, Auntiemike! :-)

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Nothing can keep me from watching my favorite shows. I won't be thrilled with a Hantz season, but I'll watch and hope they get voted out quick. I did enjoy the return of Boston Rob and will say that this season might have been a total bore without Coach and his stories. The only other interestng character was Cochran!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
ITA re:Coach & Cochran, Brenda. :-)

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
We'll never know what this season might have been like without Benjamin or Ozzy. Christine might have dominated her tribe. Jim and Cochran could have teamed up and run the show. We might have enjoyed some of Rick's campfire stories. Perhaps Hantz 2.0 would have been voted out during his early craziness. Mikayla might have been an immunity goddess.

Because the show concentrated on the retreads, we didn't really get to know most of the others.

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
Re: former players coming back. 3 times should be the limit, unless it's All-Stars. I was a huge Rob fan. Huge. But, got tired of him when he last played. Glad he won his Million Dollars, but now I don't want to see him back on Survivor. Russell's first season is the only season that I actually turned off, and I found out who won when the news came out. That's how much I disliked Russell. I don't understand why the producers think they have to have a 'name' like Coach, or the Hantz's, or Cochrane. Anyone on Survivor could be an interesting story, if they just gave them the air time. I want a clean slate of players instead of re-worn, re-used players. The only place I want to see former players is on All-Stars.

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
And, Mama, I totally agree with you!

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I'm not thrilled about them coming back, unless it's all stars, and then they are all on even turf.

That said, I'll still watch. I might groan when Russell is on screen, or fast forward thru his confessionals. But I like the challenges best any way, so that will still be exciting for me. :-)

Holly
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07-21-2001

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Hantz 2 not only said he'd be back, he said it in such a way that left no doubt it was already a done deal, at least that's how I read it. I think we can bet on a Hantz vs Hantz season. Blech.

As for the family dynamic talked about and shown at the reunion show, I think it was ALL staged because the plan to have a Hantz vs Hantz was already signed and sealed. They did an excellent job though of drumming up pity for young Hantz to give us at least one of them to root for. However, if you go and watch his interviews, both pre and post season, you'll see the Brandon we all saw the first 4-6 weeks of the season--out of touch with reality and his own attributes as well as arrogant. My God, he even describes himself as 'clever'! 'Nuff said.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm cynical enough to suspect that as well Holly. I thought the rift between uncle and Hantz 2.0 was played up to set up a future battle. Whoever plays with them would be very wise to get rid of them right away. Who would want to keep them in the game??!!

Iluvreality
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05-08-2011

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Yeah, it was all an act. Yuk! I hated to see Russell even once.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
I will never understand the R. Hantz dislike/hate. He was a great player, able to manipulate his whole tribe, not once but twice. I totally think he should have won his first season....he controlled that season but alas his tribe was a bunch of jealous haters.

Second season...he had had NO TIME to learn from his previous season....he went from first season to the second. STill made it to the end I believe and if he had just had the chance to improve his social game he could have won.

I only judge Russell for his game play on Survivor....he was a very interesting yet different type of player who managed to make it to the end twice and controlled the game.


Brandon on the other hand was emotional and wishy washy...I believe he has some deep personal/emotional issues that need to be worked out....I would not want to be alone with that child...he scares me. I hope, for his sake, he does not decide to do a season against his uncle....he will be pulverized and further humiliated on TV.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I did stop watching this show when that first Hantz person was on. And I really haven't watched much since then. When I saw that the Coach person was going to be on this season, I immediately quit watching.

This used to be my favorite show. But I'm not willing to watch something where the continually put unlikable people on the show. If they had wanted Coach to have $1M they should've just given it to him. They could've done the same thing with Rob from Boston, who was on, what? 19 times?

Sadly, I just no longer enjoy watching this show when they insist on putting retreads back on. If I didn't like them the first time, I'm sure as heck not gonna like 'em if they keep getting shoved down my throat.

ETA: I did periodically check to see who was left. Because that little Hantz person and Coach were still on, I'd immediately switch it off.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Russel was certainly an interesting character Boberg and I think he brought something to the game. I think he's a very poor sport and that's really the main reason why I don't care to see him on Survivor again. And for Little Hantz -- I worry about his mental health. He's a very confused young man and seems to have real issues (other than just overinflated ego like Russel).

Jackie2850
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10-28-2010

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jackie2850 a private message Print Post    
Yes, Russell made it to the end 2 times, but that is before anyone saw his game. Once his season was televised, that was it. Everyone knows his game now. And no one respects it. He'll have to be on a tribe of ALL women, so he can dominate and be the top rooster. Brandon, on the other hand, will have to be on a tribe with NO women, so he won't be tempted by those devil jezebels.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I think a Hantz vs Hantz would be so unfair to the other players, just as this Coach vs Ozzy was.

If they want to do Hantz vs Hantz, they should have nothing but Hantzes, and we'd get a study in dysfunctional families.

Maris
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03-27-2002

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Boberg, my intense dislike of Russell came from his expressions of his views of women and how he demeaned them on a daily basis. Will not turn that show on if he comes back.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Wasn't Russell on three times? The third time he did the worst, right? Against Boston Rob?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my fav exit interview site:

"Coach" Benjamin Wade: Ozzy Lusth was a "whiney little b-tch"
http://realitytvworld.com/news/coach-benjamin-wade-ozzy-lusth-was-whiney-little-b-tch-12981.php

Iluvreality
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05-08-2011

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
Yep, he got was the first of his tribe to be voted off. When he played the second time he really had an advantage because those players hadn't seen the way he played/cheated...and yes the demeaning way he talked about women. Remember him talking about dumb women and fat old women. But when he played that third time and everyone knew him they couldn't wait to get rid of him. It is Survivor, not the Russell show. To me he is a prime example of "short man syndrome"....what a joke!

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, December 21, 2011 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
In Heroes vs. Villains, Russell only got to the end because Parvati wanted him to be there as a shield for her. If she had wanted him out at any point during the game, he would have been gone.