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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to Survivor Fever for the Pics and Transcript for the next episode:
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Transcript:

Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...

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Coach (talking to Brandon, Albert, Mikayla and Sophie): If anybody calls me Benjamin to my face I'm going to go nuts.

Albert : Benjamin.

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Stacey (at Redemption Island duel): Benjamin.

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Christine (at Redemption Island duel): Benjamin.

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Probst: Benjamin.

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Probst (at food eating frenzy challenge): Both tribes getting to know each other in a whole new way. Coach gnawing off something big.

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Cochran (camera confessional): Worst case scenario, I have horrible herpes.

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Probst: This is a disgusting challenge.

Alaginger
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
At the end of Jeff's live Tout last night, he gave two clues for next week:
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1 - Jeff says that the challenge is GREAT, and disgusting and we already know from the pictures above that it is just that!!!

2 - BLINDSIDE next week at TC! He said it has a lot of ramifications in the FOLLOWING week as well...

Now this has some substance to it. I notice that the analytical group over at Survivor Blows are already speculating Ozzy's tribe goes to TC and that it might be a blindside of Elyse (as foreshadowed in last night's show), of even Ozzy himself ... not to mention Jim for turning on his alliance.

Alaginger
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The name of the next episode is "Taste the Victory"
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Here are the CBS Misdirection clues:

AN UPSET CASTAWAY SEEKS REVENGE AND A BIG BETRAYAL SHAKES UP THE GAME AT A SURPRISING TRIBAL COUNCIL, ON "SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC," WEDNESDAY, OCT. 12

CHEAT TWEET: Revenge, betrayal and starvation! #Survivor, Wednesday, Oct. 12 at 8pmET/PT

"Taste The Victory" – Starving castaways tap into their primal instincts at an intense Immunity Challenge, and a big betrayal shakes up the game at a surprising Tribal Council. Meanwhile, on Redemption Island a scorned castaway seeks revenge by spilling all the secrets of their former tribe, and the third castaway is sent home, on SURVIVOR: SOUTH PACIFIC, Wednesday, Oct. 12 (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.

Roxip
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
If the Savii tribe votes off Ozzy I hope they have a great deal of difficulty finding stuff to eat. There...I said it! I know it's not a nice thing to say but it would be mind-blowingly stupid (IMO) to vote off the person who does the majority of the fishing and tree-climbing/shaking before the merge.

Scooterrific
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
LOL Roxip!

Tntitanfan
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thankfully Ozzy's tribe is not the one with the chickens who might feel like they have the food issue solved for a while!

Hope there is a farm gal or guy so that they know to eat the rooster first!

Merrysea
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Cochran has watched enough Survivor that he should know it's okay to eat the rooster first.

Roxip
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Thursday, October 06, 2011 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Oh crud, I forgot that Ozzy's tribe has chickens.

Tntitanfan
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 4:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Oh gosh, I guess I had the chicken tribe backwards! Sorry!

Scooterrific
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Me three!

Alaginger
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Checking in at Survivor Fever this morning to see if there were any new pics or transcript, I see that they have updated their speculated boot sheet. Right now, for being vulnerable, they have:
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Savaii: Elyse, Jim and Ozzy
Upolu: Edna and Mikayla

1) That tells me they don't have a clue which one is going to TC and 2) if Upolu goes, they think the two gals outside the "Core 5" are in danger and 3) they are thinking from the CBS clues that Jim's agreement with Cochran will turn into a blindside against the Ozzy twosome, or bite him in the b*tt for shifting from the alliance.

On Saturday, we should have the spoiler from Maxx Fisher, and I'll be curious to go back to Survivor Fever and see what they do in the bootlist.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks again to Survivor Fever for some more transcripts:
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Transcript:

VO: The new Survivor season is on!

VO: Coach and Ozzy are dominating competitors

VO: Confident

Coach: "I think I'm sitting pretty right now"

VO: And Cocky

Ozzy: "I feel like they're really becoming, my tribe"

Cochran: "Ozzy is becoming the arrogant fisher-boy"

VO: But will this nerd...

Cochran: " I don't have any outdoorsy skills"

VO: Seize control?

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Cochran: "I don't care if Ozzy thinks we're all against him. We ARE all against him"

VO: Plus...don't miss the most outrageous matchup you'll ever see

JP: "This is a disgusting challenge"

VO: New Survivor, Wednesday. Only CBS

Alaginger
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
WooHoo, good catch by Kona over at Survivor Sucks. By spotting the contraction behind Stacey in the RI challenge,

they have noticed that it is the same challege from the Final 3 in Tocatins.
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http://www.youtube.com/embed/UEJ-DpY1JJQ

Konamouse
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
If Ozzie gets voted out (blindsided WITH the idol AGAIN), wouldn't be surprised if he goes on a RI streak and then comes back.
Is anyone in the blue tribe still looking for the idol?


Alaginger
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
In that picture at the very top of this page, where Coach is talking with the tribemates at the base of a tree ... he was up in the tree during the rest of the video and pictures, and the supposition is that he is looking for the Hidden II.

Alaginger
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Friday, October 07, 2011 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Cut and pasted from an interview by Dalton Ross of EW.com with Jeff Probst:
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EW: Let’s say you just got voted out by your tribe. You giving them a hug?
Jeff: F— no.

I was fortunate enough to make it through the promo for next week’s challenge without getting sick. What else can you tease us up with for next week?
Jeff: I’m on a plane flying to New York so the altitude is getting to me a bit, but what I most remember about next week’s episode is something significant involving Coach. That’s all you get.

Ginger Note: Hmmmm! I wonder if that means Coach finds the Hidden II.

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Transcript from James Barber at Survivor Sucks for one of the omitted scenes from the last episode per the Survivor Insider:
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Papa Bear Meets Christine

Papa Bear joins Christine on Redemption Island and realizes they have a lot in common.

<Papa Bear wakes up Christine and introduces himself>

Christine (solo): I'm glad it's not Stacey here at Redemption Island, because I want her to stay in as long as possible.

Mark: I don't know what happened to me, but they took me out.

Christine: Aww.

Christine (solo): As far as a competitor is concerned, when Mark came in, I felt, ooh, I hope it's a running or endurance type of challenge tomorrow, because I can definitely beat him in something like that.

Christine: You from the city?

Mark: New York.

Christine: Yeah?

Mark: Yeah. You?

Christine: On Long Island.

Mark: I live in Forest Hills, Queens.

Christine: Isn't that funny? You a detective?

Mark: Yeah. Retired.

Christine: My husband as well.

Mark: Where?

Christine: Crime scene.

Mark: Are you serious?

Mark (solo): You misjudge people. Christine is here with me, and when I first saw her, I thought she was a bad-ass. She's a really nice lady. And plus, we both got screwed from our tribe, so I know how she feels.

Mark (tending the fire): Your husband's gonna be proud of you.

Christine: Yeah? Getting voted out second?

Mark: You don't know that. If you outbeat me tomorrow, I've already come second.

Mark (solo): My strategy right now is to do every duel I can successfully and to get back into the game. If I get back into the game, I'm going to go with the blue team, wheel and deal there. I'm not going to go back to the same team that voted me out. I'm not stupid. They're gonna crumble now. I can see them crumbling right now.

<they go to sleep>
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Ginger Note: Most interesting thing here to me was that Christine tells us in a solo confessional that she did not want it to be Stacey. I think they had an alliance that Christine was hoping to get back into the game with. Well, now the duel is between Christine and Stacey and I'm sure before they duel, they are going to do as much verbal damage to Coach as they can.

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oooohhh...read what Dawn has to say regarding Ozzy from another deleted confessional:
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Cochran vs Ozzy

Dawn compares and contrasts Cochran and Ozzy's value to the tribe.

"Cochran's an interesting addition to the tribe, because he's such a character, he's so fun to listen to, and he's really agreable. I think he genuinely loves the game so much, that you can ask him anything the night before we have a challenge, and he'll rattle off 5 potential challenges, and who the winners were. It's like he's Survivor Wikipedia. In that way, he's an asset, because he always knows something. When we get a clue, he's like, 'It could be this kind of challenge,' and we begin to strategize. I think he's an asset too because he's probably more loyal at his core. I know he wants to win the game, but I think he's more loyal at his core than someone who's played the game two times before, like Ozzy. I think you become al little jaded if you've played before, especially if you've gone to the end and not won. I think you will see everyone as, 'You're in my way. Let me knock you down.' At least my experience, the conversations I've had with Cochran, it's a little more about family, a little more about what life is like. Ozzy does that, but you also get the impression he's more like, 'Huh? You were speaking?' He's just going, 'Hmm, I better give the impression I know something about you.'"

(cut)

"My feeling about Ozzy is he does have a kind of superstar status or strength in the tribe. With that long hair all I keep thinking is he's a modern-day Samson. I keep hoping someone's gonna come up and cut that hair, and and he's going to lose his power. It's a mane for him. It's his source of kind of attitude and confidence and strength. It's a whole vibe. I keep thinking, <motions cutting hair> is it gonna be me that's Delilah or am I gonna get one of these young women to do it, because he needs to have it cut off. I'm DYING to have it cut."

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Cochran's viewpoint per the Survivor Insider on the possible alliance with Jim:
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Big Power Move

Cochran is eager to work with Jim to get an unexpected tribe mate out of the game.

"The first few boots have been relatively easy. There hasn't been a lot of strategy involved. Getting rid of Semhar was straightforward. Getting rid of Papa Bear was straightforward. For somebody like me who thrives on big strategic moves and loves seeing that in a game like Survivor, I've been dying to see that in Survivor. Now that Dawn and I have been scrambling for a place in our tribe, and seeing that Jim might have the same feeling, this is a perfect opportunity to finally make a big move we've all been wanting to make. Taking out Elyse is going to put a big group in the model group, the 90210 group that is I guess dominating the group in terms of morale and sleeping arrangements and everything. We're eager to do something. Getting rid of Elyse is going to devastate Ozzy, first off, and it might make the rest of the pretty people feel less secure. The less secure they feel the more likely they are to be willing to make a switch. I think this is finally going to be the time the Savaii tribe makes a move that changes the course of the game and it's going to surprise a lot of pretty people."

(cut)

"The whole alliance between Jim and me kind of happened out of the blue. We both have a mutual love of this game that is not necessarily shared by all our tribemates. We love this game, we know it well, we want to play as hard as possible. We're very interested in making big power moves. The other Savaii tribemates are focused on playing it safe, keeping the tribe strong, whatever that means, going into the merge. So Jim and I talked a lot about the game, and that kind of developed into a possible alliance."

(cut)

"I'm really willing to work with anybody at this point. Jim having some confidence in me and some trust in me meant a lot. I think we're going to be a good partnership moving forward."

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
How can Jim and two others vote someone out against Ozzy and three others? Is someone else rumored to flip?

Merrysea
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
The other Savaii tribemates are focused on playing it safe, keeping the tribe strong, whatever that means, going into the merge.

Cochran is a superfan and doesn't understand keeping the tribe strong going into the merge? Does the word "pagong" mean anything to him?

Alaginger
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The spoiler Maxx Fisher has put out his information for the week, but for fun he put it in the form of a cryptogram. If the person who worked it out at Survivor Sucks was correct, this is what it said:
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Christine wins the duel (against Stacey)

Upolu wins Immunity

Elyse voted out from Savaii

Coach finds a hidden immunity idol
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Ginger Note: So, if Elyse is voted out, Jim, Cochran and Dawn voted Elyse. But, if Ozzy, Elyse, Keith and Whitney voted Cochran, how did Elyse get voted out? Until I get a spoiler telling us, I can only guess that the threesome got Whitney to vote with them, or maybe Whitney and Keith once they had it called to their attention that Elyse and Ozzy were too close.

Tntitanfan
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I am hating this since MF has been spot on up to this point! I will be on pins and needles until the next show!

Mamabatsy
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Saturday, October 08, 2011 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
The other Savaii tribemates are focused on playing it safe, keeping the tribe strong, whatever that means, going into the merge.

Cochran is a superfan and doesn't understand keeping the tribe strong going into the merge? Does the word "pagong" mean anything to him?


Strong can mean many things. Most out there consider going into the merge with more people as keeping the tribe strong. I think that's the page most of Savii is on. It can also mean going to the merge with a loyal core group. The way Cochran and Dawn have been treated, they could turn to the other tribe at the merge. Cochran knows the various strategies that have worked and not worked. He doesn't think having the most people alone is necessarily the best way to go.

Alaginger
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Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
More spoiling by Maxx Fisher:
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I told you above that the Maxx Fisher spoiler this week was a cryptogram. Then I gave you the summary of what it said that had been solved by somebody else.

Well, this part has also been solved, and now we know that both Keith and Whitney are part of the blindside.

Maxx Fisher Clue
"ELYSE
Yes, it is true, there is a woman on this season named Elyse. It was a surprise to me too. This is the first blindside of the season. Even though Elyse is the one that is voted out, I think it's Ozzy that is blindsided. He and Elyse are the only ones not in on the vote this week. Keith and Whitney are part of the blindside. I think I might have been part of the blindside."

Here's another one that he did in a different cryptogram, but a diligent poster over at Survivor Blows is deciphering them and then putting them in as a blind to be highlighted only by those that really want to know at this time. Here it is:

"Another Redemption Island and another opportunity for Matt, I mean Christine. Another opportunity for Christine to save herself. Oh but this challenge is just heartbreaking. Christine has to go up against Stacey, her best friend. Yes, they are best friends. They spent 6 whole days together and were not part of the Coach alliance so according to my “Reality TV Editing Chart” that makes them best friends. Well $1,000,000 is thicker than water and once again Matt ... I mean Christine, wins. Why do I keep calling her Matt? But true to her word, Stacey goes out swinging. She drops some knowledge regarding her former tribe, especially the fact that Coach is running the show. I wonder if this causes any paranoia on another tribe with a returning player?"

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
The SOTS (State of the Spoiling) is up over at Survivor Blows done this week by poster Scarlett O'Hara. Pretty much all the stuff we already knew:
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RI Challenge: Christine wins, Stacey walks
(A challenge return from previous show - see my 10/7 post at 1:02 pm for the video of this challenge in the past)
RC/IC: Upolu wins (grabbing chunks of meat in your mouth - hands tied behind back)
Sent to RI: Elyse (Blindside against Elyse and Ozzy and per the clue, it should send Ozzy scrambling)

Solitaryphoenix
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Solitaryphoenix a private message Print Post    
This is just speculation on my part, but it's ridiculously obvious that Maxx keeps referring to Christine as Matt, and I'm wondering if there's a method to his madness. I've read on Sucks (although I don't go too often; too crazy over there!) he apparently knows all, but is just doling things when appropriate - is it possible he's hinting that Christine does the same thing Matt did, win RI, come back, and get voted right out?

Lexie_girl
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 5:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
That's my take on it Solitary.

Alaginger
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Tuesday, October 11, 2011 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere that Maxx said he was getting his concrete spoiling on a weekly basis, but that for the season he had been given clues and hints and was cautious about spoiling any of it unless it was pinned down.

I also read somewhere that Christine does 4 wins and then gets beat...but I can't remember who spoiled that, so it might have been somebody that doesn't have actual facts. If it were fact, that would mean she beats Elyse next week also, but meets her match the following episode. Again...don't know any of this for sure.