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Maineiac
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08-24-2009

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maineiac a private message Print Post    
Some of you are saying it's not right for Matt to have so many chances to stay in the game. Are you forgetting that this is Rob's 3rd or 4th time(lost count) playing Survivor. Is it fair he keeps getting invited back to play. He has a huge advantage over all these contestants this season. They're all playing for the first time while Rob knows the game very well.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Rob, although he's gotten too arrogant for me these days.
However, I would LOVE it if Matt makes it to the end sitting next to Rob and the jury votes for Matt to win. LOL Afterall, it was soley because of Rob that Matt went to RI twice.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
What Pamy said. :-)

Nan
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09-25-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nan a private message Print Post    
Sooo very much agree with all you said Maineiac.
I like rob too, but now he is a bit too much, I am all for a Matt win, and sitting next to Rob at the end, with him winning would great

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Would the others vote for Matt over Rob in a final? However nice a person he is, he got voted out twice for not playing the game well, then as far as the others know has been lazing around for three/four weeks eating food provided for him, just pausing every few days to win a challenge.

As much as they like him I can't see the others thinking he's played the game enough to win the million.

Meanwhile if Rob gets to the end, given how much he has unabashedly controlled it, how much the others knew about how he plays, I'm not sure there'd be much denying he deserves to win.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I agree with Kitt.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Geez, Juju, you had me until Mike Boogie.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I think Matt has played much harder than Rob.

Rob dogs all the physical competitions.

Matt plays his heart out in the duels.

Rob sits back and lets everybody work for him.

He is not a leader.

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
I was thinking the same as Kitt until I remembered that now the "game" includes redemption island, so taking that into account...if he can manage to make it to the end, then yeah, he has played the "game" well. I don't believe that he was voted out because he didn't play the game well, he was voted out because Rob knew he was the fiercest competition, and we all know he controls every team he's ever been on. If somebody has the smarts to oust Rob, then that's the person I'll be hoping to win.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't mind at all if Matt won; however, his biggest mistake in the game was being true to his team after they booted him the first time. Had he gone with the other side and booted some of his former team it would be a real game now. Having said that, where would he be on his 'new' team; at the bottom same as the old team?

Where I feel Rob blew it was in keeping Phillip over Matt. Matt adored Rob and would have done whatever Rob said and again, it would be a whole different game. I feel Rob would have had a better chance of winning if Matt had gotten evicted by the other side, not him. However, you never know how the jury will think in this game.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Whether or not you like the WAY Rob leads - and I understand many do not! - a leader is the person who gets the "job" done by the team. This appears to me to be what Rob has been doing the whole game -

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I think Rob rules, rather than leads.

A true leader is out in front of the pack.

Rob is a sitter.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    

quote:

Geez, Juju, you had me until Mike Boogie.


Hahahaha, Cricket. I was afraid nobody was going to get it.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Rob..IMO...has lead his team to get "him,Rob" to the finals! No other way he could have played it & still been there.

Rob wants Phillip sitting with him in the finals because, honestly....who would vote for Phillip? If Rob is truely controlling the voting, Phillip has made it to the finals.

Matt: Everyone on the jury has been to RI. THEY know that it's not a luxury spot. I think they will all have a respect for Matt because of all of the time he's managed to survive this obsticle of the game.

I don't see Rob standing a chance @ winning if Matt is standing with him at the end!

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Matt has played "The Redemption Island Game", but he hasn't played the Survivor Game...

Well, actually, he's played the Survivor Game twice so far and lost twice so far.

But since it's new rules, I guess it's a new game.

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
The producers have really latched onto the the whole Matt-suffering-and-asking-"why-god?" thing too much. They're making him out to look like Jesus himself, especially when they show his lovely bearded face profiled in the sunlight and have a heavenly chorale singing in the background as he struggles with how God has forsaken him. I wanted to puke. Maybe Andrea will be kicked off next and we'll have a Mary Magdalene on RI. Too bad it's all airing just a bit late for Easter.

Hahahahahaha! Good one, BR!

Some of you are saying it's not right for Matt to have so many chances to stay in the game. Are you forgetting that this is Rob's 3rd or 4th time(lost count) playing Survivor. Is it fair he keeps getting invited back to play. He has a huge advantage over all these contestants this season. They're all playing for the first time while Rob knows the game very well.

Actually, Rob was at a huge disadvantage this time. The other contestants all knew him and his style and every single person there had an edge over him for that reason. He should have been gone as quickly as Russell. He wasn't. That itself shows how well he reads and manipulates people.

Also, while I understand people's irritation with the recycling of contestants and bringing them back for other seasons because I am a bit tired of that myself, Rob hasn't had 3-4 chances in one single game. He's had one chance each in 4 games. Huge difference, IMHO. I would want him gone, too, if he was the one sitting on Redemption Island. Again.

Truly, I was not for Rob at the beginning, but I think it is astonishing he is still there and a testament to how well he manipulates people which is a lot of what Survivor is about. He's really brilliant at that. It can frustrating to watch and you want to yell at the other contestants for falling for it, but hey, it's really pretty amazing that it's the final 6 and he is still there and he's the one currently running the show. The other contestants are like sheep right now. I posted that on FB, lol. Not one of them seems to have an original thought in their head. Baah! Baaah! Baaaahh!

I'm over the whole God thing, too. IMHO, God is not invested in whether Matt wins Survivor or whether Rob wins Survivor or whether Phillip wins Survivor ... and He's not up there playing favorites just because one person is being more openly devout.

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
FWIW, I really liked the Redemption Island concept at first, but it is final 6 now and I think the producers kept it around too long. I think if they bring in someone this late and that person wins, it will be a travesty of the nature of the game. And I mean that about any of the contestants. If Rob gets voted out next, comes back through the RI loophole and wins, I won't like it. Just my opinion. I have plenty more where that came from!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, April 30, 2011 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I noticed that the big rock that Matt was sitting on alone at the beach sometimes looked like Mary was behind him then at other angles it actually looked like Jesus. I wish I could have screen capped it. It was bizarr

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 3:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I agree Hermione, Rob's people are like sheep.

On the other hand, I think that the Good Shepherd is watching over Matt and all the other contestants. Matt just seems to be the only one talking to Him out loud.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I just hope Rob knows when to use that idol, because if his sheep have any sense, they're going to turn on him pretty much immediately. They should all know if they sit next to him at the end he's going to win.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Grant could be the bellwether that leads them away from Rob.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Actually, Rob was at a huge disadvantage this time.

He's had one chance each in 4 games. Huge difference, IMHO.

Good points Hermione.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Re whether Rob rules or leads, I don't think it much matters if he gets to the finals and if he wins. Whatever works. You can't win if you don't get to the finals. He has lasted far longer than I thought he would.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Keldogg, what do you mean when you say Matt has played the Survivor game twice and lost twice.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Dogdoc...He was voted out, then got back into the game, then got voted out. So, he had two chances to play the "Survivor Game" (where you have to play the whole social and strategic game) and lost twice.

Redemption Island is a whole different game. :-)

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, May 01, 2011 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Thank you Keldogg. I thought you meant he was on two different seasons.