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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 7:07 am
Let's start off this Episode with Jeff's Blog from Episode 9: ****************************** Thanks once again to everybody who joined us for the “interactive living room” twitter session last night! It was our biggest yet! Okay, onto the blog! Today’s blog will be stream of consciousness, with no proof reading, so bear with me.. MATT Was he a moron? What would you have done? I felt like he was in a really tough spot. Going against your old alliance and joining the other side is a risky move. Obviously, staying with someone as dangerous as Rob is also a major risk. I think the only mistake he made was sharing his inner monologue with Rob. That’s the lesson I learned – when playing a game like Survivor, you don’t have to be so honest, God will understand. But I must say, his faith in his God is pretty impressive and inspiring. Love the absolute commitment. JULIE Julie complained about how unfair it was for Ometepe to vote out Matt again so soon after coming back into the game. I do not believe Julie would have taken mercy on Matt if she were in the same situation. Not one bit. She didn’t hesitate to get rid of Russell. She would have done the same with Matt and it would have been okay, it’s part of the game. NATALIE When Ralph was trying to forge his way in with Ashley and Natalie, he was trying so hard to get something going. The only thing Natalie could safely offer, without risking saying anything wrong, was: Natalie: It’s a hard game. Damn! The insincerity of that lame ass line would have prompted a major response from me. There is no chance I could have contained myself at that point in the game. “It’s a hard game.” Screw off. ZAPATERA They’re doing everything they can to try and find a way into the tight Ometepe group. That’s what you have to do in this spot. You have no other option. You have to stir things up, try to get someone riled, try to start an argument, anything at all. Sitting back and saying, “I understand” is bullshit. It gets you nowhere. The only problem facing Zapatera is Boston Rob. Without Rob, Ometepe would have no clue what to do. That’s clear by the way Rob is able to keep them in line. BOSTON ROB For all the concern we had that both Rob and Russell would be voted out early – Rob has done an amazing job of not only staying in the game but staying in control. There are a few key factors to his success: a. He has an incredible knowledge of the game and the key elements required to control your fate. b. He’s a naturally gifted strategist. His “us” vs “them” while keeping himself clean is so brilliantly executed. c. The luck of drawing the Ometepe buff. Rob would not have been as successful on Zapatera. He is relying on the naïve nature of his tribe. Everybody on Ometepe will take offense with me saying this, but without Natalie and Phillip, Rob is dead because Ralph, Julie, David and Steve would not have responded the same way. NATALIE GETS MADE The scene between Rob and Natalie where she reports on the actions of Ashley was straight out of the Godfather. Natalie just became “made.” That is what they call it when you earn your mafia stripes, right? Natalie just made a HUGE move. She locked in her alliance with Rob when she could have made a move and gotten him out of the game. From this point forward Natalie’s fate is linked to Rob. THE CHALLENGE Phillips story about his meditation with his great, great, great, great, Grandfather was 100% legit. Even the 99th mispronunciation of his own tripe, “Ometepe” was legit. There is nothing about Phillip that is a put on, at least as far as I can tell. As for whether or not he was actually a former federal agent, I will get to the bottom of that during the live reunion show Sunday, May 15th. Mark it down. I loved this challenge. I love individual challenges later in the game because there are always people fighting to stay in the game. I also love it when people let go of their humility and get in the mud. Day to day motivation is a big factor in this game: Grant & Rob wanted it from the word go but for different reasons: Rob wanted to protect himself and remain in control because he understands you are NEVER safe unless you have immunity. Even with a hidden idol, if you don’t play it you can get blindsided. Grant wanted it for his tribe because he is playing the “team game.” The three Zapatera all wanted it because they needed it. Ashley, Andrea, Natalie & Phillip – they didn’t fight because they aren’t worried and for now they don’t have to be. TRIBAL #1 When the low man on the other tribes totem pole tells you that he enjoys being the low man, you know you are in trouble. Phillip embodies the loyal soldier. At this point I truly believe Phillip would fall on a sword for his tribe because in his mind he is part of an important group. What he doesn’t understand is he is being played by one of the best and the only way this ends well is if Rob gets blindsided and Phillip ends up in a final with himself. MIKE AT REDEMPTION ISLAND Mike will be tough. Mike could be on Redemption for a while. He is an amazing competitor and from what I can tell an audience favorite. CHALLENGE #2 I love these challenges as well! Love when we give them the chance to sit out and eat rather than compete for immunity. I’m always amazed at who chooses to eat and why. You are so close to $1million dollar pirze. I would never give up a shot at immunity for a burger. But I think it makes perfect sense that Steve and Phillip did. Steve knew he wouldn’t win and Phillip believes he doesn’t have to win. Turns out both are right. TRIBAL #2 Stealth-R-Us. Phillip is pure gold. Straight out of the river bed. If there has ever been a more fascinating Survivor contestant, please share. David brought up a great notion – that at this point, the best move for a Zapatera may be Redemption Island where you can control your fate. I don’t think we’ve even touched what RI will bring to this game. For those of you on the fence, give it a chance. Let’s see where it goes. Next week.. one of the most “water cooler” worthy tribal councils in quite some time.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2011 - 1:16 pm
Mods ... Can you change the title to show 4/20 for the date ... not 4/21 (My fault --- sorry). Done! <24> **************************************** Here's the transcript for next week's show that was shown in the promo at the end of last night's show. Transcript: Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...Phillip takes issue with Steve. Phillip [camera confessional]: If you don't start none, there won't be none. But if you start it, I'm gonna finish it. Phillip [yelling at Steve around camp]: You called me crazy. That's what happens with some white folks. They like to take a black man and make him crazy when he makes an argument that you won't want to hear. And you know I've got to say to that? You are crazy. ................................... Mike and David Arrive at Redemption Island Mike: The last few days have been really frustrating. It seems like every time the wheels start to spin and I start to be able play the game that the brakes get put on it by somebody else. David: Knock, knock. Mike: Who is that? David: Murphy. David Murphy. Matt: Whattttt? What is Survivor doing to us?
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 5:40 am
Thanks Mods................ The title of next week's show is: "Rice Wars"
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 6:24 am
CBS Misdirection Clues for the week: ***************************** CBS Press Release: A CONTAMINATED CONTAINER OF RICE SPAWNS A CONTROVERSY THAT ESCALATES FAR BEYOND THE MATTER AT HAND, ON "SURVIVOR: REDEMPTION ISLAND," WEDNESDAY, APRIL 20 "Rice Wars" - When one alliance's food supply is contaminated, a heated argument at camp sparks an explosive tribal council. Meanwhile on Redemption Island, the three remaining castaways compete to stay in the game and avoid becoming the first member of the jury, on SURVIVOR: REDEMPTION ISLAND, Wednesday, April 20 (8:00-9:00 PM ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network. ************************** Ginger: Well that sounds like whoever does not win becomes the first member of the jury, and if that is the case, we have a 9 member jury and not a 7 member jury as previously spoiled earlier in the season. So, looks to me like the 12 players we have right now will represent the jury and final 3. ****************************** Over at Survivor Blows, Volcanic Glass tells us that: "If the call sheets are taken at face value, then the first member of the Jury ought to be the (first) loser of the E11 duel." Ginger: the call sheets she mentions are those that were found in a hotel room, left by accident after the filming of Survivor: Redemption Island and it reflected a 7 member jury. She also says: "FWIW, the CBS duel vote page for this week's episode shows the #notaduel is a three-way between Matt, Mike and Dave." **************************** The posters over at Survivor Blows think the wording of the CBS Misdirection clues are trying to throw the viewer off and the two who lose this time will be sent home, and the one remaining, the winner, will win to stay another week and try to avoid being the first juror. We will just have to wait and see....but leaning towards a 7-member jury.
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 9:14 am
Could it mean that the loser goes home, the winner goes back to the game and the middle one starts the jury? Or the winner stays on RI to compete against someone else?
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 5:24 pm
The way it is worded, it could almost mean anything. Are the 3 competing trying not to be the first on the jury? Or, are the 3 competing so that they can win and stay and next week try not to be the first on the jury? I don't think anybody is going back into the game this early, Mama. It's just too soon after letting Matt go back at the merge. My guess is the next time somebody gets to go back into the game will be at the last episode, or the week before the last episode....but I'm just guessing. Last episode will have 5 players, so maybe one of those 5 players is the returning champ from RI.
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Catfat
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02-27-2002
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 6:14 pm
Maybe they will have all the RI players come back at one time and vote out everyone they don't like.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Friday, April 15, 2011 - 9:18 pm
Transcript from the last promo pictures at camp: ******************************* Transcript: Announcer: Survivor, Wednesday, an unexpected conflict... Phillip: Look, you guys aren't being reasonable. When some white folks, they like to take a black man and make him crazy when he makes an argument that you don't want to hear. Steve: So you're making this a black and white thing now? Announcer: ...turns ugly... Grant: Did he just play the race card? Rob: Did he really? Steve: You're a lunatic. Phillip: Anytime somebody of my color gets up in one of your faces, you feel like I'm a lunatic, I'm crazy. Yeah, I think that is what this is about right now, between you and me. Rob: It's like watching Divorce Court.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 5:34 pm
We have some pictures from the RI challenge: ********************
Transcript: Announcer: Wednesday on Survivor, three castaways fight for their lives. And an unexpected conflict turns ugly.
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Kookliebird
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08-04-2005
| Saturday, April 16, 2011 - 9:30 pm
On the bottom photo, everyone appears to be looking to the left, except Philip. Wonder what that's all about.
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 6:26 am
It looks like everyone else is turning to look at whoever is speaking, and Philip is ignoring the speaker.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 6:46 am
They appear to be applauding, and Phillip, even though looking forward is applauding. Rob and Grant do not seem (at that point) to be participating in the applaud. I have a feeling that Matt gets beat since the 3 girls do not seem to be too enthusiastic in their applause.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 8:54 am
Just a reminder of how the challenge for RI was played in a previous season: **************************** Thanks to Survivor Fever: Redux of "House of Cards" challenge Rules from Survivor: Gabon: Given a pile of 200 playing-card-shaped wooden tiles, build a tower as high as you can on a platform, any way possible. A ladder is provided for assistance. First player to get a tower ten feet tall, or whoever has the tallest tower after 30 minutes
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 9:04 am
looks like Steve's mouth is open maybe he is talking and Phil is glaring at him. Maybe this is when they get into it. Steve is so arrogant, hope he leaves
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Vickie
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07-16-2004
| Sunday, April 17, 2011 - 10:39 am
By the picture above the happiest people are of the other team not Robs. They look very happy. Only thing is that when they get voted out they will have to fight against whomever it is. I bet ya it is Mike. Also by the above picture he seems to be higher than David by his back being up on the platform. All a guess by pictures but to me that is what it seems.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Monday, April 18, 2011 - 5:32 am
Not spoiling, but a neat little tidbit snipped out of the Reality News Online interview with Sarita White: ****************************** RNO: Considering that you had a majority alliance, why was there such a rush to get rid of Russell – to the point of throwing the challenge, giving up immunity, and even giving up comfort items as well? Sarita: I do regret that – I wish we hadn’t thrown that challenge. In the moment, when you have to sit in close quarters with Russell each night and listen to how much money he had and what his p.r. person is doing and what stars watch him… The two girls would sit starry-eyed. We wanted to gouge our eyes out, we were like, “Stop talking!” He would tell us everything about the game, even inappropriate things. It was kind of ruining the game as each hour passed. We were either going to play Russell’s game or get him off. He loved to throw the torture around. You’d think you’re having a good conversation and he’d come in with these preposterous lies. It’s a lot of energy to expend on this one person. I was really fifty-fifty on the whole challenge thing because he had a lot of strength. But in the end, we just had to call it.
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Monday, April 18, 2011 - 6:52 am
Zippidy dooo daaaaaaaah... ***************************** Or Rob's team isn't happy if Matt is winning because they know if Matt comes back into the game, there is a 100% chance he will flip and go to the other side.
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Sammi
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03-31-2008
| Monday, April 18, 2011 - 8:30 am
By the time he gets back (if he does) there will be no "other side".
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Monday, April 18, 2011 - 10:46 am
Zippidy dooo daaaaaaaah... ***************************** True, but Rob knows it doesn't bode well for him if Matt comes back.
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Monday, April 18, 2011 - 8:55 pm
It really is irrelevant whether somebody else comes back or not...regardless of whether it is Matt...the Ometepes still have the numbers. It would take a huge shift in attitude and gameplay for the Zapateras to regain any kind of an advantage.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 6:00 am
Well, Well, Well ... the jury plot thickens: ********************** TV GUIDE Survivor: Redemption Island Episode: "Rice Wars" Season 22, Episode 10 Episode Synopsis: One alliance's supply of rice becomes contaminated, which leads to a heated argument. Meanwhile, Matt, Mike and David duel on Redemption Island, with the loser becoming the first member of the jury. Ginger: If I am reading this right, if the loser becomes the first member of the jury, it must be a 9 member jury, afterall, and the other two competitors gets to stay on RI to compete the following week.
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 6:23 am
I am puzzled about how, with three people competing, there can be only one loser?
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 6:31 am
TNT, I'm guessing the first one "out" of the duel is the member of the jury.
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Scooterrific
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07-08-2005
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 8:44 am
I'm confused about that, too..if the loser goes to jury, what happens with the other two?
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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 10:43 am
A while back I thought that the loser would leave, the winner would go back in the game and the runner up would stay on RI to fight again. With this new info, perhaps the loser goes to the jury, the winner goes back in the game and the runner up stays to fight again. It would mean that from now on, the loser at RI goes to the jury rather than leaving.
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Weezer
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08-13-2009
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 11:33 am
Maybe the winner gets to choose who goes back into the game, who stays on RI, and who goes to jury. hmmm.
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Kookliebird
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08-04-2005
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:12 pm
Just a thought .... Maybe it's like russian roulette. You lose, you go to the jury, you are done. But, if you are the top 2, then you live on for another chance to get back in the game on RI.
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Whoami
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08-02-2001
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 12:46 pm
Someone somewhere suggested one or two people left now will be retained as alternates for the jury, in case someone quits (a remedy for the two that quit and still ended up on the jury last time). I think that makes a lot of sense. But now as I'm typing and thinking, maybe not. Cause why would the loser go to the jury, and the winners only end up as alternates? Perhaps, loser goes to jury, the two winners live to play another "duel" (though it's not actually a duel if there are more than two competitors). Whenever it becomes time to have another person get back into the game, the winner would go back into the game, and anyone left on RI would then serve as jury alternates.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 2:57 pm
(LOL) Who!!! You are right. It's not a "duel" when 3 are competing. Now I'm going to have to watch very closely and listen to hear if they call it a "duel" or not. TV guide has already said they duel ..... because the above was quoted straight from them! Probably a press release from CBS ... sounds typical of them.
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Lilfair
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07-09-2003
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 5:00 pm
Maybe they do "duel". Matt against whoever visited first and the winner of that goes against the next person and that winner gets the perk...whatever that may be.
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 5:37 pm
Ya reckon it will all come clear tomorow night? I love the not knowing part!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 5:44 pm
The pictures up above show all three of them competing "House of Cards" at RI at the same time with the other Survivors looking on.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, April 19, 2011 - 5:53 pm
No SOTS (State of the Spoiling) up at Survivor Blows this week so far. Actually, with as little to go on as we have (no challenge pictures other than RI), I can guess why there is no SOTS. The voting in the other thread is going on, and it's really a mixed bag. Most seem to think the loser this week will be either David or Mike. They seem to think that Matt is going to make it to stay on at RI, even if he comes in 2nd. And, since Rob seems to want to get the strongest there to compete at RI and boot his big threat Matt, they feel Ralph (Rooster) will get the boot over Steve, but some have voted that Steve goes to RI. Basically ... nobody knows!!!
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