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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 3:44 am
When he described the quality of slap [i will not repeat it] he intended to put on all his tribe mates, he meant it. I have no regards for Russell.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 4:13 am
I had to go back to CBS clips from last week to re-find this one. For those that can't watch, the rest of Zap team are all out with the big net trying to fish in the ocean. Russell and his two girls lounging on the beach. Russell asks Steph/Krista if they want to eat rice? Because the team is planning to come back and eat very little rice with their fish. Heck yeah! "Nobody's here to babysit us"! Smirking & laughing, they start eating with shells from the pot of already cooked rice. Russell even 'offers a toast' by tossing a heaping shell of rice straight into the fire. Then pulls up another shell of rice & goes back to pigging away. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=fSJ0wMU14C_DqSWT_CkqyOfV3jvTm_Xa&vs=Clips&play=true Survivor: Redemption Island - Russell & Company Steal Rice (Day 7) Clip 1:23 While the others are fishing, Russell, Stephanie and Krista help themselves to the rice - - - So, yes I do believe they made the Zap team stronger simply by unloading the freeloader by losing the challenge. With the nets they are already eating better than the other tribe anyway. Last episode with Steph/Krista sunbathing (instead of pretending to work) I don't see them lasting much longer. They're just another drain on the food sources IMO.
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 5:32 am
I have an issue with Russel crying. Being a bigtime cryer myself I know there are lots of reasons to cry and I would never make fun of someone crying. However crying because you lost a game is very childish. I remember when my daughter was 12 and was in a vollyball tournament. One of the girls cried when they lost. Everyone wanted to know what was wrong and when they found out it was because she lost. They told her she was being silly and to step up. there is no shame in loosing. Russel is like this child he cannot deal with loosing. I never saw the first two seasons with Russel, I heard he was nasty and do not like watching people be nasty for a game. It sets a bad example for children watching the show.
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Holly
Member
07-21-2001
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 6:18 am
"Mental anguish and pain"??? Goodness sake, the meanest man ever to PLAY at this game, all for fame and fortune no less, simply lost. To consider him in 'pain and anguish' is being a bit ridiculous, don't you think. Now, if you said the people in Japan are in pain and mental anguish right about now, then I'd have to agree.
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 6:57 am
I had to laugh when Russell was one of the three nominated for Sprint Player of the Week when all he did on this episode was lose and get sent home! They sure do like to push him forward.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 7:50 am
they are referring to what he said to other tribe. He gave them intel about his tribe, stuff they can use at merge.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 7:57 am
crying because you lost a game is very childish All I can say is if that is true then there must be an awful lot of childish NFL, NBA, Baseball and NHL players out there because I see that happening fairly often when they lose a big final game. Anyway, just to be clear, I'm not defending Russell, I don't like what I've seen of him as a person and I don't feel sorry for him. I did find him entertaining in his first season and I was still enjoying him during his second season but he wasn't able to successfully modify his strategy and he was eliminated early this time. That's the way it goes.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 8:53 am
ITA JulieBoo and Jimmer. Russell was backdoored and alot of players who get backdoored cry in frustration. Big Brother contestants go completely off when backdoored it is the most frustrating way to lose. Russell's tears revealed his frustration to me. I thought Russell handled the situation very well he didn't go ballistic screaming and ranting. Even at the end Russell was still deep in the game. Russell was congratulatory and nice to Matt who was equally compassionate toward Russell. I actually found it very sweet and sad. I was happy for Matt what a great young man. I was sad that a player that gives us ALOT to blog/post about is gone now.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 8:55 am
Well I don't think what I wrote (and felt) is ridiculous, but whatever. I agree with what Jimmer says about lots of (professional) men crying when they lose big games... I am also not saying that I actually like Russell. I'm not even trying to "spin" his actions. I will completely agree that what he has done was pretty ruthless/cutthroat. But I see it all as part of the game/strategy. And I could and would never compare losing a game (and the ensuing grief) to a catastrophe like the earthquakes and tsunamis in Japan. I also agree with Shenanagon's points.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 9:52 am
I've still got the show on my DVR. Russell pulls his hat down over his face and starts crying. (Cue the violins.) Matt rubs his back. Jeff starts talking to him, asking why crying. Russell dries up fast. Then starts beotching about team throwing challenge (which accomplished what they wanted) about his team. And goes on to say, "So it's hard to be a professional quarterback and have peewee leaders on your team. Cuz I've got to run the ball. I've got to catch the ball. I've got to throw the ball. I've got to do everything." He dries up FAST. I've got no tears for him.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 9:56 am
But I see it all as part of the game/strategy. But when the rest of his team uses strategy of losing challenge to get rid of Russell, he just beotches about it. I cannot like him or feel sorry for him at all. TOUGH, Russell. You can dish it, but you can't take it.
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Holly
Member
07-21-2001
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 10:14 am
<And I could and would never compare losing a game (and the ensuing grief) to a catastrophe like the earthquakes and tsunamis in Japan.> Neither would I. But I wouldn't describe anyone losing at Survivor as suffering grief and/or mental anguish either. Disappointed certainly, but extreme emotional states should be used for people really suffering not the likes of an obnoxious bully such as Russell Hantz. He acted like a spoiled kid.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 10:36 am
I'm sorry but I giggle and laugh every time I see a clip of Russell crying….it cracks me up. So he didn’t fall to his knees he just hunched over and hung his head and sobbed. This self proclaimed bad-arse melted like a little spoiled kid. Sure no one likes to see pain on people’s faces but in this case it was pure joy. And yes there was genuine pain on his face.
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Holly
Member
07-21-2001
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 11:24 am
<Russell was backdoored and alot of players who get backdoored cry in frustration.> Sorry, but I can't agree he was backdoored. He knew 100% that the vote would be split between him and his "girl" only because they thought he may have an idol. That's why he tried to get Julie on board to throw an extra vote against the other side. He knew exactly what his tribe was thinking of doing. Backdooring, I believe, means the person is completely blindsided and doesn't expect it at all. So Hantz was merely outplayed, not backdoored.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 11:32 am
I don't think the term backdoored applies here either. That's when someone is taken off the block and then another person put on without chance to fight for Veto. I think it's a BB exclusive term. Blindsiding would be the Survivor equivalent, and there was no blindside here. Russel knew he was in the hot seat and had time to scramble. It's just that his scramble didn't work. The majority of his team didn't want to play the game his way-- being lazy, negative, lacking team spirit and destructive to morale. I say good for them for getting rid of him!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:06 pm
I cant remember so can someone answer this If Russ would have voted for Steph would he have been the swing vote for her to go? If so Im surprised he didnt think of it or maybe he just really felt the other lady would vote with them
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:07 pm
I'm one who enjoyed seeing Russell's pain. I don't have one iota of sympathy for him. He was more than hurtful to others. Karma is a good thing. I also laughed when Russell said that Ralph is stupid because the only reason he found the idol was because Russell told him to fine rocks to keep the fire hot. Russell's laziness made it able for Ralph to find the idol leaving Russell idol-less.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:23 pm
Pamy, I think they were convinced Julie would go with them, but even if not, they may not have known that some of the votes would go to Stephanie.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 2:48 pm
That's an interesting thought Pamy! Maybe he didn't know which one of his beeyoches would get the other votes? But boy, if Russel had tried to do that to save himself, _that_ would have been impressive play!
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 5:48 pm
Russell has said in his interviews (hindsight being 20/20), while they had hoped julie would switch votes they werent sure of it. also he said that they knew they were going to split the votes between him and stephnie (she was pretending to have an idol). So he said he could have saved himself that week if he voted for stephanie he has never betrayed his true alliances (I know he didnt his first season). so even if he voted stephanie all he would really do is save himself until the next time they went to tribal, so really whats the point, this way he can still look loyal to his allies.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 6:28 pm
this way he can still look loyal to his allies. Using Russell's word -- his beotches. He knows the definition, connotation of the word. No excuse for that. It's not gameplay. I cannot like him. He got what he deserved.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 8:08 pm
so even if he voted stephanie all he would really do is save himself until the next time they went to tribal, so really whats the point, this way he can still look loyal to his allies. The point would be that he could have later found the idol. Maybe his team wouldn't want to throw 2 challenges in a row. I find it hard to believe he sacrificed himself so that he could say he was loyal. I think Julie probably had him fooled into thinking she was switching votes.
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Merrysea
Moderator
08-13-2004
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 8:23 pm
Russell looked pretty smug at tribal council, and Julie did an excellent job of shining him on. I don't think it ever occurred to him that anyone would dare go against him.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 9:19 pm
Especially a female! (Although Sandra should have taught him something that previous season.) I agree Julie did a great job shining him on! I was on the edge of my seat that night.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 10:10 pm
I was using backdoored as an analogy and Big Brother contestants getting upset as a comparison. His team's strategy worked. They threw a challenge to get rid of him. They were successful, good for them. I am no Russell fan but when he cried I liked him a bit more because he IMO was being human instead of arrogant and cocky as I've seen him be for a long time now. I'm studying and reading alot and I have brain fatigue so I hope my post regarding "backdoored" won't be taken as a literal backdoor such as BB but as a comparison to players getting upset when they are without further options and blah blah. I did like how he and Matt treated one another. I wish Russell had shown that side of him before now.
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