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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
He admitted it in the finale, and when called on it in the questioning, but never to camera during the season. If he'd said he'd decided to put getting further during the game ahead of what his beliefs told him he should do that would be one thing, but every time he tried to justify it in terms of honour.

I actually thought less of him for admitting his failings so readily at tribal, because it was (presumably) less than a day after he'd told us how wonderful he'd been in the camera confessional. I'd rather believe he was completely delusional that the manipulative player he was this season, who only admitted to his mistakes when he thought it would win him votes.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
[Sophie asking for Albert's help]
And I sort of doubt that the rules hadn't been explained anyway. I think she was confused with comps where you go to eliminate a person and then another but in those they take turns usually.


I disagree. It looked like Probst and the producers made a snap decision and created a rule to protect Ozzy.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
OK, I'm going to take one for the team and go back to listen to final tribal again because I don't think Coach owned his business. He didn't say "Ozzie, I couldn't beat you and I'm here to win the million" or "Brandon, I'm sorry I used what I had and your weak spot was God, if it got me further that's what I intended."

Now, if he'd actually said that, he might have lost Brandon's vote but I don't think so because Brandon is all about forgiveness and redemption. Ozzie might have given him the respect of his vote, though. And several others might have also.

Pray for me. I don't want to go there again. But I'm taking it for the team, dammit, just like Ozzie (and like Sophie pretended with her "drop your tiles" demand.)

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
PS Lexie said "ingress and egress." I just love that - very legalese.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere in this thread that

Votes for Coach were Cochran, Brandon and Jim.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jim voted for Coach??? Really?

Whoami
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08-02-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Well, previous recycled castaways have had the heroes and villains theme. I'm not sure what this time around was about. Ozzy, the ultimate competitor vs Coach, the ultimate delusional? I dunno.

If Brandon and Cochran were brought back, what would it be? Geeks vs Naive Head Cases? Actually, it might be sort of interesting to have a tribe full of geeks. Maybe the Survivor producers should team up with the CW and have a Survivor Beauty and the Geeks season. But instead of pairing them up, they compete against each other as separate tribes.

I can see it now. A bunch of beautiful girls who are planning on hitching up with a strong guy, let him do all the work while she lays around and tans. Suddenly these girls all realize they have to actually survive on their own, and their sexy bikinis are rather worthless now. LOL. It might be entertaining to see how competitions go with physically inept geeks vs lazy girls who consider themselves above physical and mental activity.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Brandon said he voted for Sophie:
http://blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2011/12/survivor-south-pacifics-brandon-hantz-it-was-a-bitter-vote.html

Sophie thinks the votes for Coach were Cochran, Edna, and Keith:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/19/survivor-south-pacific-sophie-finale/

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
INTERESTING, SPEAR!!

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I disagree. It looked like Probst and the producers made a snap decision and created a rule to protect Ozzy.

I don't think so. It's *individual* immunity. Other players have never been able to help each other in an individual immunity contest. They can shout to each other, but that's it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
ACK..well I read that, but I wondered who did vote for coach.. but of course I didn't see the cards they wrote on.

and Edna makes some sense, given her speech!!

Have to admit I'm thinking "who is Keith" but then I kind of thought that about Jim, too.

Would be funny if no one wants to fess up to voting for Coach.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Wow, Edna wasn't treated differently? And if the group prays every time they break open a coconut, and someone didn't pray, that would make no difference? Sorry, Brandon.. I don't buy that for a minute.

And if you feel some faked the religious parts to fit in, well you know god can hear your thoughts so you could have prayed silently as individuals, hmm?

I don't buy that reply for a minute.

And unfortunately, he seems to feel he found his "family" or gang on Survivor and pretty much says he WILL be back on the show. ICK.

Not only do I not want to see him again, but I would wish for him to find, with his wife and kids, actual real world non reality people for support.

But, I sure can see him voting for Sophie for the reasons he gave!

Hmm. Sophie just thinks those were the votes. I want something official now.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
And would Keith and Whitney really vote differently?

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I wondered if Ozzy voted for Coach. Didn't he say at Tribal, that it was Coach's 'game to lose?'

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I could see Ozzy voting for Coach over Sophie. He saw Coach as leading the tribe and making the decisions, and he said that people who came to RI told him Sophie laid around all day and did nothing (and I don't remember seeing her doing much of anything around camp).

Spear
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08-06-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Ack! Sorry, Sophie thinks the third vote for Coach was Rick, not Keith. (I have a hard time remembering both of them.)

Ozzy says he voted for Sophie:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/12/19/survivor-south-pacific-ozzy-lusth-finale/

Edna confirmed on Twitter that she voted for Coach. She also thinks Rick was the third vote:
http://twitter.com/bareease

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Gracious. Interesting stuff. I was kind of admiring Brandon for getting past Coach's betrayal of him and voting in his favor (in keeping with his forgiveness mantra), but on the other hand I wanted him to realize what Coach had done to him and hold him accountable.

\Admission - I haven't bit it off and watched the final tribal again yet. I will get to it and do my best to transcribe directly rather than summarize my perception.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm looking forward to that, GAL. However, I can see some contriteness from Coach even from reviewing your original spoiling.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
From my fav exit interview site:

Exclusive: Sophie Clarke talks about her 'Survivor: South Pacific' win
http://realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-sophie-clarke-talks-about-her-survivor-south-pacific-win-12978.php

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I can well believe Cockran, and two of Ozzy, Edna, and Jim!

Can Brandon actually have TWO children? The kid is just 18?!!

Holly
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07-21-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
In Biscottiii's article linked above, it claims Coach is 39. Bwwaaaahahahahaaa....

I'd add at least another decade to that number.
At least.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I love Sophie's interview, and her bottle of liquid courage.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Holly, Coach did a LOT of living before he ever went on Survivor, being chased down the Amazon by cannabalistic pygmies and all. Those sorts of things tend to age one beyond one's years.

Iluvreality
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05-08-2011

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Iluvreality a private message Print Post    
LOL Juju

Holly
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07-21-2001

Monday, December 19, 2011 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Juju, right! I forgot about his hard living lifestyle before Survivor. Must be what caused the premature aging ;)