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Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Whitney's the worst kind of bully, big with the cruel words and vicious behaviour, but when she gets called on it along come the tears.

I feel bad for Dawn, I hope Albert can switch it around somehow to keep her. Cochran's going to be in a real dilemma if he has to choose sides in a split tribe.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 10:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I LOVE your show scenarios Tishala honestly if you had a blog I'd be a fan!! Well done once again!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 11:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I don't feel bad for Dawn after her "handmaiden" act with Coach.

But Brandon is the biggest bully (and cry baby at times) of all and he kind of scares me when he snaps and goes after someone pretty much irrationally. I absolutely hope he doesn't have children because they could never win with him.

Can't stand Cochran and he's doing the classic (self proclaimed) victim who is now a bigger bully..

Don't like all the smirking and lording over.. one entire tribe completely buys Cochran's tales of woe (I don't think they really care, of course, they just see that person to take to final three who is completely beatable) and turns on other people, demonizing them as they go.

While I hate Dawn's desperation moves, I admire her ability in comps, but both the blatent kissing up AND the performances in comps will and already have put a target on her.

And Cochran being the local mascot could easily be a big threat to others in the dominant tribe.

And I'm sick of how involved Jeff has become at helping to target people, too.. I bet Dawn wanted to deck him during the comp and maybe at tribal too.

I don't equate the venting of anger at a betrayal as bullying, but that sure is the buzz word of the season. I half expect that we may hear that this was Cochran's plan all along, to play on being the weak one, heck, maybe he even planned to play weaker than he really is? Probably not..

Glad I was spoiled; this ep was hard enough to watch.

Not a fan of Ozzy, but he looked pretty cool up in that palm tree and I do admire that he isn't just moping around, but is exercising and catching fish.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 09, 2011 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Great spoiling, Tisha. I think what Brandon said that caused the uproar at tribal was something about playing with the people he wanted to be with, or the best people (paraphrased here) and then quickly indicated that he wasn't putting down his original tribe, just to let them know he was putting them down.

And I agree that what was blurred out was something anatomical or perhaps a play on a certain reviled insect.... probably the former.

Scarebaby
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07-31-2005

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 12:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scarebaby a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, I couldn't agree with you more! I'm having trouble finding someone to cheer for this season. I guess I've settled on Ozzy, and maybe Whitney. I like Albert (who doesn't?) but he seems a little impotent.
For a minute, I actually liked Jim tonight.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 12:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Thanks all. My spoiling wasn't all that great--it's loaded with typos and missing info, but I did the best I could.

I'm just rooting for Albert and Sophie. I hate that Cochran's flipping has made the game so predictable. Much as I didn't like Jim, he was an interesting player--remember that he was the one who got Elyse kicked off and was an implicit threat to Ozzy. And, if we get to see Ozzy at RI, that'll be good, but they can't realistically spend much time there. He really is kinda a wunderkind, getting that huge fish tonight, and seeing him diving in the reef was amazing.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey -- you said exactly what I was thinking about all of them.

During this episode, I kept thinking of something I heard once in a movie. One guy told the other one, "And the meek shall inherit the Earth." The other guy replied, "But will they still be meek once they do?" It's all I could think of while I watched Cochran with his new buddies.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I had to laugh at Ozzy's face saving "You guys fell into my master plan" final speech.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm all about Coach this season. I like Albert and Sophie too. I think those 3 are the ones calling all the shots and unless something goes terribly awry I can't see one of them not winning the $$$$.

Ozzy has to lose at some point at RI, law of averages.

Whitney crying was pathetic. She finds herself on the losing end of the numbers game and she's feeling sorry for herself. Let this be a lesson to her and her teammates that they best be careful who you treat poorly because karma isn't pretty. I have no sympathy for her or Jim or Ozzy.

Go Coach!

Reenie
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06-24-2006

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reenie a private message Print Post    
It's so interesting to me how we (TVCHer's) view the show so differently.

We all watch the same show yet we all come away with something different.

Some of us completely dislike people that others admire.

I guess it's kind of like "life".

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Love your quote, Nerovh.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm having trouble mustering up much empathy for Cochran's old tribe. They had a big physical advantage and they messed up in numerous ways. Same with Ozzy. Just one example - giving the Idol away and wasting it last week. Sheesh!

I'm happy Albert and Sophie are doing so well. I don't mind Coach either. Who would have thought he'd be playing a better game than Ozzy.

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I agree with those who find this a particularly difficult group to like.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, ITA with your 5:42 a.m. post.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Can't stand Cochran and he's doing the classic (self proclaimed) victim who is now a bigger bully..

How so? I missed a bit of the show but from what I saw, Cochran was rather quiet. I just can't see him being a bigger bully at all. Tough to top those others...

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
I don't equate the venting of anger at a betrayal as bullying, but that sure is the buzz word of the season.

they are two different things but can easily go hand in hand.. If you've watched the last 3-4 shows you'd see a lot of bullying. Its the catch word this season for a reason.


As for Jeff targeting people....Tribal is filmed over hours, he probably targets everyone at some point to uncover their flaws and weakness's...we only see part of it. He's been doing it forever, not just this show.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I wished Cochran had been a bit in your face when the name calling started back at camp. He should have told them that yes he did what he did and get over it, he is playing a game and its not as if he lost any close loving friends over it.
Miss Crocodile Tears is the worst kind of bully--dishes it out with ease but cannot handlt it when directed at herself.

Loremma
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04-25-2004

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loremma a private message Print Post    
Ozzy etc are furious at Cochran for not sticking with their tribe because he ruined their chances. They are not mad at him because they thought they were one big family and feel betrayed - like Coach's tribe would feel if one of them flipped.

Jim likes to say (and others) that they "saved" Cochran at earlier votes, but they only did that because they didn't think he was any kind of threat to their advancement in the game. He was a pawn to have things go their way. And now that it's not going their way, well, Cochran is an idiot etc.

Why should Cochran feel any allegiance to his original tribe when Cochran's name was always first on their lips of who to vote out at every tribal council?

He was bottom of the pecking order at original tribe and I'm sure the bottom on Coach's tribe, but at least Coach's tribe treats him better. That must be a nice change for Cochran.

I think Albert and Sophie will be making a move to vote out Coach when it's down to the original 6 plus Cochran, and Cochran will align with them.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
"Miss Crocodile Tears is the worst kind of bully--dishes it out with ease but cannot handlt it when directed at herself."

I almost LOL when Whitney displayed her crocodile tears, really, Whitney? I appreciated Cochran being calm and quiet as they came one by one to tell him what a sorry person he is. I think he was smart in keeping quiet and letting them vent. I don't see Cochran winning this game but I also don't want him to so things are looking good for this viewer.

I don't know why I'm really enjoying coach, but I am.

Ozzy still has that sense that he's somehow the only one that deserves to win the game, oh so not true. I think he's worked on his social game and I think that's great but he still has a way to go.

Of all the people playing this game I think Coach has played the best social game, so far.

I'm guessing TeamOzzy will be very bitter and won't reward the best all around player at the end. We'll see spiteful votes from them. And lots of moaning and groaning and excuses and pointing of fingers. I really don't think they have a clue as to how poorly they treated Cochran.

Hypermom
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08-12-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 9:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Does anyone know what Ozzy does in real life, besides porn and reality shows? TIA

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Ozzy does porn?????

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Lilfair.

I thought Cochran handled himself very well last night after being torn a new one by half of his old team. They were downright nasty to him, but he didn't run crying to Coach's team, he just let them vent and even when Jeff asked about it said they were cool towards him, didn't seem to indicate just how nasty they got. So, I think he's handling it all well. I can't blame the guy at all for smiling and being happy to eat donuts with a team that is now protecting and being nice to him! Who wouldn't want that?

I do love seeing Ozzy swim and climb, etc. But he really is not a champion of this game. He's not a master like Rob M. He thinks he deserves to win based on athleticism and long gorgeous hair. LOL. I do want to see him do well at II, I like seeing him compete.

I'm also, dare I say, liking seeing Brandon mature a bit. Granted, he has a LONG way to go and I so badly wanted him voted out long ago, but I'm starting to appreciate bits of him.

I'm finding this season very interesting even though there's no one on it that I adore. The dynamics are fascinating and Coach is entertaining.

Hypermom
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08-12-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Scooter...he did after his first time on Survivor.

Lostfan
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03-10-2010

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lostfan a private message Print Post    
Did I miss something - last week the previews to last nights show, showed Cochran giving Ozzy back the imunity idol - I didnt see that, or am I losing it and it happened last week?????????

and by not giving it back makes him even more of a ungreatful player

Coach is getting way to cocky for me again - wouldnt mind him getting his cocky ego voted out -

I guess were back to 3 at a time at RI now

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, November 10, 2011 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Me too Jimmer. I have zero sympathy for Ozzy's tribe. They "gave" the advantage to Coach's tribe when Ozzy volunteered to go to RI.