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Gurliegirl
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06-20-2006

Wednesday, February 02, 2011 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gurliegirl a private message Print Post    
"You canonize a weasel all you get is a weasel in a fancy hat."

My new favorite line. Thanks Juju.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Thursday, February 03, 2011 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Well I wish all this info about Russell had come to light earlier on then we wouldn't have to see him on Redemption Island.

The silver lining is we are pretty much assured that Mark Burnett ain't gonna give Hantz any fan favorite vote this season. (No matter how many votes he gets)

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Just a general note to all that it is fine to quote information from another site, as long as you credit the source and also provide a link to the original information.

Thanks for all the great info! :-)

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Aha .... now I know why my post disappeared!
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Here's the link to the interview information regarding Russell Hantz and the leaks to spoiler Missyae regarding Survivor 20 and 21, and why spoiling for Survivor 22 will be harder to come by.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-01-31/survivor-spoiler-exposes-russell-hantz-as-his-source/

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
And, here's the same subject from TVGuide.com
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http://www.tvguide.com/News/Survivor-Russell-Hantz-1028788.aspx

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Doesn't surprise me. I've always thought he was a total ... well, it will put red astericks if I type what I think of him.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the links, Alaginger!

Very interesting read. I'm a little surprised that CBS would have any legal beef with Missyae or that they could make it stick but they may have done it to pressure him to reveal his source. Now Russell is another story.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
a convoluted one, that's for sure.......

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, February 04, 2011 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, I don't think Survivor ever had any real beef with Missyae, other than they wanted to know who the link was, and that is why they filed the suit. My understanding is that after Missyae gave up Russell Hantz and provided proof it was him, CBS dropped the suit.

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 12:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
The only reason Jim Early/Missyae revealed it was Russell was, Russell was implicating Shannon Elkins from last season.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_115831451822592

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
That's interesting, Askme ... but I could not log on there since I'm not a member, and do not plan to join Facebook.

Out of curiosity, whose account is that? (or rather, who stated that - Russell, Shannon or Jim Early?) thanks

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
How could Shannon have spoiled the two Samoa seasons? Russell really should at least try to think before he speaks!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
LOL! I think Russell thinks too much and just got confused.

Hypermom
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08-12-2001

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Who spoiled last season, to Missyae, since Russell wasn't on it?

Askme_who_ur
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08-19-2006

Saturday, February 05, 2011 - 10:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Askme_who_ur a private message Print Post    
Ginger, It is a group called Survivor Whispers. It is open to all facebook users. It was started by Jim Early and Shannon Elkins. A lot of the former survivors post on it and some do webcasts. Johnny Fairplay was the one I saw that mentioned the Shannon Elkins issue. It didn't make sense for Russell to claim it was Shannon since Shannon didn't play both 19 and 20. Russell was the only one too do that.
Jim/Missyae is posting some of stuff that he got his spoiler info from. Stuff that was left in hotel rooms naming the cast from S21 and such. So I am not sure who left it for him or how he got a hold of it but sounds like Russell isn't his only source.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Askme!!! I don't do Facebook. I tried it once, spent 2 weeks uploading some pictures from a Ball here, so it would have been 3 years ago. During that 2 weeks my email was stormed with 4 times as many emails as I usually get, and I already get a lot.......so I cancelled Facebook. I have several friends on there and preferred to cancel, rather than tell them I couldn't visit their "farm" or whatever.

Sooooooooooooo ...... if you, or anybody else, sees anything at Facebook of spoiler value, post it. That's what this thread is for ... but as the Moderator has pointed out, we should name our source...even though non-prescribers will not be able to check out a Facebook link.

Many times I see things at Survivor Blows, Survivor Skills and elsewhere that quote Facebook entries, and I bring those over. I've even seen a lot of entries from this "Survivor Whispers" you mentioned. However, when you made your post above on February 4th, I went to Blows and Skills and did not see mention of what you had said, so that's why I asked you who said it.

Seeing as how it was Johnny Fairplay that mentioned it, maybe that's why the other sites had not mentioned it (LOL). He is not the most dependable person to quote.

And .... just FYI .... I refuse to join Facebook again. The first time was enough trouble for me.

Thanks Askme for the info.........G

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, February 06, 2011 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Off topic, but same happened to me on Facebook, Ginger. And I got terrified and dismayed and immediately closed my account. Some years later I joined again as Juju Bigdog. Much more serene, and I don't post my own stuff, just look at what other people post, like baby pictures and such.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 07, 2011 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Hey Juju ... glad to know I was not the only one.

I've had a good friend tell me that I could rejoin and do something with my profile and settings that would eliminate all, or almost all, of those problems. I prefer just checking with the sites I trust, and if they quote something from Facebook ("whispers" or any other account), I can bring it over to TVCH. This way I feel more comfortable that those other sites have probably already thrown out the trash!

I have many, many friends here from the women's club I am very active in that belong to Facebook, and it's so much easier for me to just tell them I'm not a member. They have absolutely no interest in Survivor and I have no interest in their little garden or cemetery or whatever game at Facebook (LOL). It gets me off the hook just to say I'm not a member and don't want to join.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 07, 2011 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Here's the transcript from Jeff's cast assessment video. Thanks to Survivor Fever!
I've highlighted potential spoiler stuff in red.
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Jeff Probst: We have something fun happening this season.
Kristina: They're not going to know what hit 'em.
Rooster: It's always about me.
Ashley: Dang.
Steve: Ahhhh.
Sarita: Game on.
Probst: I can feel it. I can feel it for them.
Stephanie: We're a good group.
Kristina: Really. Watch it.
Probst: Sarita is a favorite from the moment I met her and it's just about how she carries herself. She's very confident. She's lived long enough to not be excited about things.
Sarita: I've managed through many a divorce, many a move. I can survive with the best of them.
Probst: I think she'll last for awhile and if she can get past that merge and really deep into the game, she's going to be a threat to win.
Matthew reminds me physically a lot of Fabio who was on last year but he couldn't be more different. Other than the head toss.
Matthew: The long blonde hair, people automatically think I'm from California when, nope, I'm from Nashville. Not much surfing going on there.
Probst: I like Matthew. He seems to be pretty introspective. But you better watch out. That smile might be a mask hiding a bit of a wolf.
Julie Wolfe, I like Julie. She's a firefighter. She's a no BS kind of woman.
Julie: I have a personality at work where I have to be hardcore and kind of a #####.
Probst: She's got a stocky build that looks like she might have been a bodybuilder at some point and she's got a great enthusiasm.
Mike is Captain America, good-looking guy, very nice to talk to. He's definitely a strategy player. What are the rules again, how can I exploit them? This is a game and that's a guy after my heart because that's how I approach Survivor as well. This isn't about friends, this is about a million dollars. Mike could definitely make it far and Mike has the social skills to win.
Hopefully Andrea will break the mold that we've had recently of the young, usually blonde, often a pharmaceutical salesperson, who, doesn't really make a big splash but somehow finds her way towards the end. Andrea seems to have something else going on.

Andrea: I've been raised on a farm my whole life and hunting since I was 12 and fishing and camping. So I'm actually not too worried about the elements. I think I'm mentally tough and I don't think I'm going to crack.
Probst: Phillip is going to be in or out. He's got a line that he plans on laying on his tribe.
Phillip: When I got out of the service I became a special agent with the Department of the Defense.
Probst: I used to have access to all these secrets. Which is all true. But when you hear it, you kind of go, huh? When he told me he was gonna do it, I said, okay, good luck to ya. The question is going to be, for Phillip, do people buy it.
Natalie is so young in life that I'm actually surprised she's on our show.
Natalie: I love being the little baby. I feel like I'm the baby at whatever I do.
Probst: She impressed us with her gumption. She just kept telling us, don't judge me too quickly. I know I'm young but I've been through some stuff and I know how to dig deep. We liked her and we took a chance. She's a wildcard for us.
Steve Wright, I love this guy. I love him not because he's a football player, he's big guy, I like him because he loves Survivor and he's enthusiastic about Survivor. He knows how to pump himself up.

Steve: Just the A-type, pow, will come out.
Probst: He knows what competition is and I'm guessing he's probably pretty good at social dynamics. I would love to see Steve go deep in the game.
Ashley. High hopes for Ashley. She was in the pageant world.
Ashley: People don't respect pageant girls. I'm not stupid. I'm a nurse by education. I played basketball professionally overseas.
Probst: She's going to be able to help her tribe in challenges. When you're a woman who is attractive and you contribute, your chances for staying around as long as you have men on your tribe, are very high.
David Murphy holds the record of the highest IQ, ever, on Survivor. He's a defense attorney for high profile cases in Los Angeles and I asked him, how do you defend somebody that is guilty and he said, I never ask them if they're guilty. The way he answered that question, I think, gives you some insight into how he might play this game.
David: It sounds awful to say it but I'm going to have to bring myself down to their level.
Probst: Krista Klumpp is a question mark at this point for me. If she folds it won't surprise me and if she turns out to be this really strong pillar on her tribe, it won't surprise me, either.
Krista: I like to kind of prove people wrong sometimes.
Probst: Grant, interesting dude. Former football player turned yoga instructor. Very much has that vibe about him. I just don't know which is the real guy. Will the competition side of him that took him through football come out or will the balanced, nurturing, let's all get along yoga side come out? If he is lucky and he can blend the two, a little competitive, a little nurturer, he can do very well.
Francesca is this big beaming light of energy. What I like most about Francesca is her mouth. She has got nicknames already for all these people.
Francesca: Probably the most entertaining thing about me is that I just like to talk trash about people.
Probst: Hopefully she is as spirited on the show as when we met her in casting.
Francesca: In the end we'll see who is the last one standing and I think it's going to be me.
Probst: Stephanie Valencia, if I'm right, will be one of the first people voted out, if not the first.
Stephanie: My mom says I can be rude at times but I don't think I'm being rude.
Probst: I hope I'm wrong. If my hunch is right, Stephanie, right now out on the beach in the rain already, hours into this game, is overwhelmed and wishing she was back home having a glass of wine and something to eat.
Stephanie: I'm here and my heart's in it and that's all I need to worry about.
Probst: Ralph Kiser, hands down, my favorite new Survivor.
Ralph: I'll make you laugh your ##### off.
Probst: I love him the minute he walked him.
Ralph: I'll say words that aint properly spoken, you know, supposed to be said right.
Probst: He is a hard worker. He's got a girlfriend, he still takes care of his wife. He built a house from scratch. He works a full time job and runs a farm. And he's got hair everywhere. What more do you want from someone on Survivor?
Ralph: Enjoy life while it lasts cause you're dead and gone. Have a hell of a good time.
Probst: Kristina Kell, another favorite. She's not 21. I think the enthusiasm of someone who's lived for awhile is infectious.
Kristina: I told medic, don't you dare pull me out of this thing. Unless my arm gets chopped off and even then if you can like bundle it up... like don't.
Probst: I think Kristina is probably going to play a very tough game. If I had to guess I think she might be one of the people who makes some big moves to try to win.
Kristina: Mark my words, watch, I'm gonna win.
Probst: The thing with Rob and Russell is that for whatever reason they are now icons on our show. If you talk about one of the most evil people that ever played, you'll say Russell. Truth is if you dig a little deeper, he's also one of the most successful. Nobody has had two alliances go all the way to the end like Russell has. So in a weird way, he's extremely loyal as long as you're on the right side.
Boston Rob is fascinating in that he started as a villain. He was despised by people and somehow he transformed into a hero. The good news for both Rob and Russell and everybody else is even when you're voted out, you're not out this season. Redemption Island awaits and one of those guys or girls is going to come back into the game. I have a feeling we're going to be talking about this season in high regard when it's over.
Ginger: Notice in his last statement he said one will come back (not two like at the merge and then again at the end of the game). So, one of our spoilers doesn’t sound correct …… we will have to wait and see.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Monday, February 07, 2011 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay ... getting close to Episode 1, just 2 days away. Based on the Survivormeter at TDT, and assuming (notice that bad word) that TDT has already juggled around all the potential spoilers out there, I'm coming up with this listing for premerge vs merge.
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At the merge:
Rob with Andrea, Ashley, Matt and Natalie
Russell with David, Krista, Mike and Sarita

That means that these players should be gone by
the merge:
Ometepe: Francesca, Grant, Kristina, and Phillip
Zapatera: Julie, Ralph, and Stephenie with Steve having ??? by his name.

I think the ??? mean that Steve is probably the player over at Redemption Island at the time of the merge, so he is not out of the game yet (just my guess as to what it means).

I read somewhere today that both Blackwhale and Missyae (spoilers) are saying a female wins this season. That is not in concrete, but worth mentioning.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, February 07, 2011 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I thought Survivor started on Feb. 16. Have they changed it?

Edit: Just checked Zap2it, not showing for CBS Wed. Feb. 9.

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, February 08, 2011 - 2:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Oh, My Goodness ... I just have way too much on my plate right now. JuJu is absolutely correct.

We have a week and 2 days (not just 2 days).

Sorry 'bout that!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Friday, February 11, 2011 - 4:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
February 10, 2011 - Fancast.com interview with Mark Burnett --- link to the article is at the bottom:
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‘Survivor’s’ Mark Burnett on Quitters, Spoilers and a Possible Celebrity ‘Survivor’
by Gordon Holmes

“Survivor” Executive Producer Mark Burnett participated in a conference call this afternoon to discuss next Wednesday’s premiere of “Survivor: Redemption Island” and the future of the “Survivor” franchise.

How Will the Redemption Island Twist Work?
Mark Burnett: The very first person (voted out of the game) goes to Redemption Island. There on Redemption Island they live alone. The same conditions, the same amount of food, almost nothing to live with except it’s even worse because they’re completely lonely and alone. And they’re waiting for what happens next in episode two when the next person is voted out of their tribe and joins the first person at Redemption Island. In episode three, person one and person two compete in the first challenge of the episode. It’s a face-to-face duel. And some of the members of their tribes who had voted them out get to be spectators and watch the one-on-one duel.
The winner of Redemption Island stays on Redemption Island, the loser now actually goes home. Week four, there’s another duel, spectators come from the tribes to watch, and it goes on.

How Will “Boston” Rob Mariano and Russell Hantz Factor Into the Game?
Mark Burnett: The two of them probably have an advantage. In the first episode, when they arrive it’s a surprise to the tribe. The tribes are there, there are sixteen of them there. And then Jeff says, “But the game hasn’t started yet. By the way, there are two more players.” And a helicopter lands and out steps Russell and Rob. And their (the contestants) faces are like, “Oh my God. I can’t believe these guys are back.”
Jeff explains there are 150 days of experience between Russell and Rob. Jeff says, “You can get rid of them if you want, or you can use them to your benefit. There’s 150 days of experience.” But that means one of two things; either use that experience to get to the end, or fear that experience and get rid of them. It’s up to you, it’s “Survivor.”

Will “Survivor” Continue After “Redemption Island” and Will Jeff Probst Continue as the Host?
Mark Burnett: We haven’t dealt with it. We’re massively in post right now. It’s based upon ratings. It went up in Season 21 (Nicaragua) despite the move to Wednesdays. The assumption is we’ll continue making “Survivors” because hit shows stay on and shows that don’t, don’t stay on. There’s a core fan base of viewers who’ve followed the show from night to night.

Did Russell Hantz Leak Spoilers Online for “Survivor: Samoa” and “Survivor: Heroes Vs. Villains”?
Mark Burnett: I found out the same time you found out. I read it online. I had no idea about it. Don’t know if it’s actually true. As of this minute, I still have not had a conversation with CBS about it. I should probably call someone and ask someone.

How Frustrated Were You by NaOnka Mixon and “Purple” Kelly Shinn Quitting “Survivor: Nicaragua”?

Mark Burnett: I was frustrated. I think Jeff (Probst) was more frustrated, just because Jeff’s actually on the show and living that journey with them. It’s surprising. The one thing I’d tell you, the biggest struggle we had was based upon precedent, and legally there was no way to kick them off the jury. Believe me, Jeff would have done that in five seconds and I would’ve approved that.
We’ve made a change, that going forward if indeed someone was to quit, it’d have to be pretty extraordinary circumstances that they’d stay on the jury.

Would You Consider a Celebrity “Survivor”?
Mark Burnett: Would I be thinking about an all celebrity version? For charity. If CBS wanted to and it was a really good reason and like a shortened version for charity at some point? Yeah, that wouldn’t be such a bad thing.

How Do You Feel About Casting Fans vs. Casting People Who Are Recruited?
Mark Burnett: All sorts of casting things come our way and we try to make the most balanced cast we can. You’d probably think that someone who really knows the game would be better at it. It’s one thing contemplating “Survivor,” a whole other thing being out there and not eating and being in that temperature.

http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2011/tv-news/survivors-mark-burnett-on-quitters-spoilers-and-a-possible-celebrity-survivor/

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, February 11, 2011 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
It is certainly not clear to me how people who are recruited are better at not eating and being in that temperature!

Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Tuesday, February 15, 2011 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Missyae (Jim Early) has given his assessment of each of the players for this season over at Survivor Skills. Here's the cut and paste for his post there.
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Looking at this year's cast:

Andrea Boehlke - - Love this player. Smart, strong, social, got it all. A serious threat
Ashley Underwood - The Total Package, another serious threat
Francesa Hogi - - - Why do they always cast black females and edit them mouthy? No chance to win
Grant Mattos - - - I really like this guy, he could be dangerous
Kristina Kell - - - - One of my favorites but shes too much like me, wide open, early alliance wont save her
Matt Elrod - - - - - Might be too nice, if its between him and another alliance member, he would be in trouble?
Natalie Tenerelli - - Of course all the talk is about her because of dating Benry, did she talk? I dunno, but he did
Phillip Sheppard - - Dude, wrong strategy, wow
Rob Mariano - - - - Cant win the title but will win fan favorite. Great alliance, great player, simply put, The Man!!!


David Murphy - - - Booksmart, will that translate to Game smart?? Maybe he outsmarts himself
Julie Wolfe - - - - Wrong, wrong, wrong
Kristina Klumpp - - The Natalie look alike wont win but might surprise some people with a move
Mike Chiesl - - - - Tough guy, strong, smart, definite threat
Ralph Kiser - - - - Definitely has some youtube moments but will not win, he dont take no crap
Sarita White - - - Silent Assasin
Stephanie Valencia - Not very smart and in way over her head
Steve Wright - - - Good guy
Russell Hantz - - Should have never changed your game style, no final 3 for you anymore, toast