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Friend
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05-21-2008
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 5:41 am
In the Tribal Council Voting clip that Bisc provided, it is plain to see that Jane said much more about Sash but they chopped it off. I was hoping one of the girls would help Jane out with her hair. Yikes.
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Friend
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05-21-2008
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 5:42 am
Jeff's Blog
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Friend
Member
05-21-2008
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 5:50 am
Bonbon, that was supposed to be a joke since every time Chase does something Jane doesn't like she says "If I was Chase I wouldn’t show my face (or sometimes she says ass) back in North Carolina.”
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 6:06 am
at reward Chase had a rolled up paper...did I doze off for a moment? LOL cuz I dont remember him reading it or anything else about it.
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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 6:30 am
OMG Tish you are not kidding I kept expecting Joan Crawford to show up behind Jane, reeling in circles in her wheelchair while fluttering her false eyelashes!!
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Colordeagua
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10-24-2003
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 6:45 am
They were regular shoes then, just expensive ones? IIRC, they were snakeskin or other reptile.
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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 7:32 am
The reason last night's episode didn't make much sense to y'all as far as the voting at TC goes is because y'all didn't read the spoilers. It is in the spoiler section as to what happened at TC that the producers didn't show.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 7:35 am
Reading the spoilers is half the fun for me!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 7:46 am
I know TNT. A friend of mine called me last night after the show (he refuses to let me spoil him). Well, he was totally confused by what happened at TC with Jane voting for Sash and everyone else voting for Jane (instead of trying to split the vote and force a tie). I had to explain what he didn't see and then he "got it." << insert lightbulb smiley>>
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Brenda1966
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07-02-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 7:54 am
IS it possible to provide us with that info about TC without spoiling any of the rest of the season?? I'd like to understand what happened last night, but I don't want to be spoiled at all for the finale. Yes, I'm confused as well. Jane must have known that Fabio and Dan would vote her out as well. Face it, no one wanted to go against Jane in the finale. And they all seem to like Dan and know they can beat him for immunity!
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:02 am
Best.Show.All.Season. Yes, Friend, I absolutely LOVED seeing Jane get kicked off. And after her stupid actions and rant, deservedly so. The woman went out with zero class. And if anyone was thinking of not voting her out, the fire and rant pretty much sealed it. Truly a bitter old woman and I can't wait till she's off my TV. FWIW, the putting out the fire was only symbolic. The survivors return from TC with the torches lit. It's sometimes the only way they get fire in the beginning if they don't win the flint. I loved seeing the families. I did feel for Fabio, but dude, if you only see your mom twice a year anyways, what the heck? I'm still kinda unsure as to why Chase picked Holly again, other than wanting to keep his alliance strong by feeding them. Yes, it probably was a move that may cost him the win, should he make it to the finale and Dan, Fabio, and Jane are on the jury. Dan. Really. Why DID he get cast for this show? I could totally see him being brought to the end because he so did not do anything to win. And he can't really claim strategy because he just physically couldn't do anything. Truly a wasted spot on Survivor. Finally, Jane claims she played with integrity. I bet her fellow cast mates will disagree when they see the footage of her eating the food she essentially stole. And while I disagreed with Holly's tossing of Dan's shoes, she DID apologize and she DID snap out of the random emotional state she was in. And has been doing a good job of playing the game since. (And anyways, whether or not he was told to wear $1400 shoes, Dan was an idiot for doing so.)
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:05 am
Brenda, there is a spoiler thread that deals solely with last night's episode and events relating to it. Ginger does a terrific job of separating each week from the season spoilers that have their own separate thread. I went through it and noticed one minor season spoiler, but there is a LOT of information about why things shook out the way they did last night. I did not fine-tooth-comb it, though, so enter at your own risk.
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:16 am
Brenda, Jane pretty much sealed her fate when she put out the fire. At that point there was no way Fabio would change his vote. And Dan? Well, he's always gonna vote with the majority.
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Aurora
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11-24-2006
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:40 am
How about just a cut and paste of the tribal council info? I really, really don't want to go into the spoiler thread. Even a "minor season spoiler" would ruin the fun for me.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:43 am
The gist of the story is that apparently Sash tried to buy Jane's vote by offering to pay her mortgage off if she voted for him to win. This whole thing was discussed at TC until Jeff told 'em to shut the cams off. There is no footage available of the discussion and there is much doubt if this will ever really be discussed outside of spoiler threads. It's one reason that many think Jane voted for Sash at this TC, even though he had the idol and a vote for him would be a non-vote..
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 8:49 am
Thanks Costacat.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 9:58 am
Ditto. Thanks, Costacat.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 10:42 am
But I'm just a good ol girl

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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 11:01 am
Interesting! thanks Costacat. I won't go into the spoiler thread either. Minor is Major! 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 12:33 pm
Just to clarify, as I read the spoiler thread, at TC Jane *claims* that Sash offered to pay her mortgage. Sash denies it. The cameras are then shut off and producers brought in, because the rules prevent monetary deals in the game.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 12:47 pm
Can someone please copy and paste Jeff's blog and bring it over here? I cannot get get that lite to open for me. Thanks
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 12:55 pm
I had no problem with the link this morning. But... Alaginger posted it over in the spoiler thread for the finale episode, so I just copied it for you... From Alaginger: Here's Jeff's Blog: IF IT’S A SPRINT PHONE, THAT MUST MEAN THE LOVED ONES ARE COMING!! *********************************** We’ve been through this season after season. I love the “loved ones” visit. I fight to have it in the show every season because it always pays off. Plus, Sprint loves it and Sprint is a major sponsor so if they like it, we really like it. It’s almost always emotional and on the rare occasions that it’s uncomfortable due to an odd family dynamic, you always learn something new about the Survivors. This season was pure emotion. Let’s review, shall we? HOLLY – I think it’s clear that Holly and Charlie have a great love affair. He was a very nice guy and so happy for Holly’s adventure. Married for 25 years and obviously still going strong. In fact, if given the chance, I think he would have stayed for the rest of the show just to be with Holly. JANE – This was the first time her daughter Ashley had been on a plane. She was feisty just like her mom. She’s clearly a young woman who carries a lot of responsibility. She was a bit nervous at the prospect of being on television, but I have a feeling that once she was back home she was bragging about her trip to Nicaragua! CHASE – Yeah, sure he’s a big football playin, country music singing, good ‘ole boy… but bring a boy a hug from his Mom and he’s reduced to tears. Connie was a delight to have out in Nicaragua and I think the loved one visit really connected Chase with his mom in a new way. FABIO – I really liked Fabio’s mom, Anne. She has an amazing sense of calm about her and clearly loves her son. She was smiling the entire time she was there, she had nothing but positive things to say and it made me look at Fabio, aka Judson in a different light. SASH – Leigh was so excited to see her son, Sash. I loved hearing Sash talk about what it was like growing up with not much money but a lot of love. I think Sash needed that comfort. He doesn’t have a lot of friends in the game right now. DAN – My personal highlight. You don’t see men share affection enough, especially father/son affection. I was truly moved watching Matthew kiss his father so openly and so often. There was no embarrassment, only love. If you were watching in HD you could probably see that I was tearing up myself. The entire crew thought it was pretty fantastic. For a moment I considered not giving Dan a hard time anymore. But only for a moment. CHASE’S REWARD DECISION It’s hard to criticize Chase’s decision of who to take with him on the reward. He certainly bought some goodwill with Sash and Holly. And just as important, by not taking Fabio, he kept Fabio from putting food in his belly. It was a smart move as it could have made a difference in the next Immunity Challenge. Turns out it didn’t, but strategically it made sense. FABIO’S FEELINGS WERE HURT When Chase came back from the reward, I really respected how honest Fabio was about how he was feeling. He was trying so hard to be “fair” about his frustration but he knew he needed to share that frustration with Chase. Fabio grew on me a lot with that exchange. I didn’t sense any game play, just a guy trying to get something off his chest and then go kick some ass in the next challenge, which he did. FABIO KEEPS HIMSELF ALIVE These types of memory challenges are already difficult but add 30 days of no food and no sleep and they become extremely challenging. You are trying to remember symbols and placement. Fabio came through big and it seems clear that without immunity he was next to go. He’s too big of a threat to leave in the game. ONE OF MY FAVORITE SCENES OF THE SEASON After the immunity challenge, the gang goes back to camp and now has to decide who to send home. The moment of Chase, Sash, Holly standing in a circle as Jane approaches was riveting. It was like an Alfred Hitchcock movie. The other three knew they were going to “kill” Jane but didn’t know how to tell her. Then… Jane starts to figure it out. Jane: “So, is it me….?” Cue the scary music… Holly: “This is not easy.” Silence. Jane: “So you all been conniving this whole time?” Cue ominous bells… Chase: “Yes, there has been discussion…” Jane gives a not so subtle flip of the middle finger to the group. Then tears. Jane: “My alliance have turned on me.” Then anger. Jane: “ They’re liars. They’re cheats. They’re backstabbers. I’m most disappointed in my Carolina homeboy, Chase. If I was Chase I wouldn’t show my ass back in North Carolina.” Then the rage. Jane grabs a bucket of water and violently dumps it on the fire. Jane: “By God I started it and I’ll put it out!” And with that moment I think Jane solidified her spot as the most “root worthy” person on this season of Survivor. I LOVED this moment. Let’s pass out some recognition to the folks that made it happen: Kudos to the team who shot this out in the field. Great coverage of this scene. Remember, there are no second takes. What you see is happening in real time. If we don’t get the shots, we don’t have it. We got it. All of it. Don’t forget the audio. Our sound team has to make sure they get every whisper without ever getting in the way of the shot. When you’re shooting in a circle with four people, that is much easier said than done. This was excellent work by the Survivor editing team. This scene is brilliantly cut. It’s cut so well you don’t even realize it’s cut. Quentin Tarrantino would be proud. Fantastic choice of music, which guided our emotions so seamlessly. And finally, a huge nod to our producing team who oversee all of this. This scene is yet another great example of why Survivor still shines above all the other shows in our genre. We have the best of breed in every single department. TRIBAL COUNCIL Whoa! Jane tore it up. She broke it wide open. Wow. Fabio just got a huge wake up call. Dan just got a huge wake up call. Did either of them hear it? At Tribal Council I always try to ask the questions I imagine you are asking at home. Or in this case, the questions that I imagine my mom is asking at home. When you looked at the scenario it was painfully obvious. There are six people left. Three of them — Chase, Sash and Holly — were hung out to dry by Jane when she exposed their alliance. That leaves three others — Jane, Fabio and Dan. Classic Survivor. You wait for this moment because the game can change on a dime. But did it? Nope. Even after discussing it, nobody changed their mind or their vote. Now Dan and Fabio must win every challenge or they are gone. That means one of them is gone next…. Unless of course something changes… ah, but that never happens on Survivor, right? FINAL FIVE Okay – here’s where we sit. Our final 5: Holly – Could win. She has made a dramatic comeback and seems well-liked. A jury might respond to the underdog story. Chase – Could win. Especially if he dominates the last few challenges and takes the right people to the end with him. Sash –A long shot, would need to take the right people with him and do an amazing job at the final Tribal. Dan – I just don’t see any way Dan can win, which is why I will be amazed if they vote him out. Dan should be in the final. Fabio – Could win but he will have to win every challenge because at this point if he loses, they’ll take him out. THIS SUNDAY DEC. 19th – THE FINALE AND LIVE REUNION SHOW Sunday is our two-hour finale followed by the Live Reunion show from CBS in Los Angeles. I think it’s going to be a good one. In addition to crowning a winner, I’m so looking forward to having Coach Jimmy Johnson back to chat. Rumor has it he’s bringing a special guest with him. I’m very curious as to who will win the Sprint Award voted on by you guys. And I can’t wait to talk to Naonka! Yes I’m going to talk to her! You’re crazy if you think I’d pass up that gold, especially during a “live” show! Who knows what she might say or do? I’ll be sure to have security close by in case she tries to take me out. BIG ANNOUNCEMENT Finally, we have a big announcement regarding the next season of Survivor that I think you’re going to want to check out! It’s.. EPIC. I hope you enjoy Sunday’s finale!!
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Lilfair
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07-09-2003
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 1:15 pm
Generally speaking, I never did care for Jane as a Survivor but I did/do appreciate 2 things she did....1, go off and eat fish on her own-loved that! And 2nd, last night dousing the fire, you go Jane! But every other instance on the show she yucked me out. I vote this as one of the least interesting casts in a long time.
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 1:26 pm
Lil, dousing the fire was a stupid thing to do and only sealed her fate. She didn't deprive the remaining survivors of anything, because they'll come back to camp with their torches lit. That said, I agree... this has been a season full of people that I could mostly care less about, have been basically uninteresting, and somewhat unlikable. For now, I'm on the Jud the Stud couch. I hope it takes it all!
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Thursday, December 16, 2010 - 1:51 pm
I have read though, in the past, that those torches are darned hard to keep lit, and that sometimes the crew has to relight them many times. Hopefully they have a bic handy right before they re-enter camp. Of course the other question is - does anyone else know how to keep it lit?
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