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Alaginger
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07-11-2002

Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
On November 24 there will be a "Recrap Show". Happy Thanksgiving!!!
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Thanks to Survivor Fever ... transcript and pics for the December 1st episode.

Transcript:

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Jeff Probst: Next time on Survivor...Naonka's antics have the tribe in an uproar.

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Chase: I was just shocked that Naonka would do something so stupid.

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Fabio: Naonka obviously wasn't thinking straight, we gotta get her out, now.

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Dan: If one of the guys had done that, I would have told them to just get the [bleep] out of here and don't come back.

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Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Moderator - Please fix my title line.
I meant to put December 1, 2010

Thanks, Ginger

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thanks to kiki at Survivor Blows, we get the Insider transcript of the voting booth confessionals as Brenda gets the boot:
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Voting clip:
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Dan (Brenda) <says nothing>

Jane (Brenda): Brenda, you and I would have made a great team. But when you start trying to bust up original alliances with my Carolina homeboy Chase who he and I are die-hard Ernhardt fans, that ain't gonna work. And then you try to bust up my original Espada alliance -- my only friend I had at Espada -- that ain't gonna work. If I tell you I'm not gonna write your name down, I mean it and I'm holding true to the people I made a solid alliance with.

Benry (Brenda): Love you B, but I gotta get rid of you before you can get rid of me.

Holly (Brenda): You just thought things were going to come too easy to you. You should have scrambled.

Fabio (Brenda): You're a super-cool girl Brenda, but this game is not as easy as you think.

Kelly S. (Benry) <says nothing>

Chase (Brenda): You know this isn't what I wanted at all and you'll see it. NaOnka is the one who screwed the whole damn thing up.

Brenda (NaOnka -- with drawing of key/HII): I was going to vote for Benry but why if you are my real true enemy? And I thought you were my friend.

Sash (Brenda): (exhales loudly) I really wanted to go to the end with you but your plans to backstab me, I had to strike first.

NaOnka (Brenda): It is amazing the things people will say when they know they are about to go home. I talk too much? Maybe you just talked yourself home.
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Ginger: Notice what Sash had to say. This never showed up in the edited version we viewed, but according to spoiler Missyae, NaOnka told both Chase and Sash that Brenda's end plan was to take her and purple Kelly to the Final 3, not Chase and Sash.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okay ... let me now bring in the spoiler for this next episode that has been in the "General Season" thread for quite awhile.
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Per spoiler Missyae, the day after Brenda gets the boot, there is a reward challenge that NaOnka wants to participate in. At that challenge she tells Jeff that she wants to quit. Something to do with "her bones aching". Without having an Immunity Challenge, Jeff calls a TC for that very night, and Brenda is brought back to view it. (Not clear if Marty and Alina come also). At that TC, NaOnka does quit, but so does Purple Kelly. Jeff and the others try their best to talk Purple Kelly out of it, but to no avail.

From Brenda's boot to the quitting of NaOnka and Purple Kelly all happens within a 24 hour period. Surprisingly, both NaOnka and Purple Kelly are both allowed to serve on the jury, but from here on out Jeff makes a point at each TC that they are "quitters".

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Aha ... from an Insider Clip, this will tell us more about why Sash voted for Brenda and did not give her his HII.
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Thanks to Kiki at Survivor Blows for the summary of the video clip:

Sash has a clip where he says the challenge was harder than anyone expected. He knew he could go a little longer than he did, but not that much longer. So instead of going 4th or 5th he figured it was better to drop out first so that the rest of his tribe could see he wasn't a physical threat. Jane winning IC today doesn't change the votes. Word on the street is Brenda is going home tonight and that is fine because he has heard from multiple sources that Brenda is planning to backstab him. When you hear that from multiple sources you have to doubt everyone around you. He doesn't want to play the HII because he wants to use it for leverage to make it to the end, but if he is feeling heat at TC tonight he will use it to save himself. He is the most powerful person on the tribe so his name should be on the chopping block. He is surprised he hasn't been blindsided yet.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Aha ... another mystery is solved:
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Just watched the 2nd Ponderosa clip over at CBS.com for after Brenda is booted. They get tree mail the day after Brenda's boot, and it says "Tribal Council".......

sooooooo...the clip shows Alina, Marty and Brenda loading up in a car in the rain and heading to TC the night after Brenda was booted. Alina is chatting privately to the camera and saying, something must have gone down, cause it is too unusual to have TC back to back like this.

Also, somebody over at Sucks posted that Jud (Fabio) is wearing the IN in his pic above...so now I'm wondering if that preview with pics and the transcript are just for the "RECRAP" show. I bet that whole preview had to do with when NaOnka stole stuff out of the trunk, but they are only showing interview confessionals with players that are left now to throw us off.

In short, I don't think the preview is for Episode 11, but for the "RECRAP" show.

Mamabatsy
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Is Fabio wearing an immunity necklace in that photo above?

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Yes ... read my post just above yours.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Jeff's Blog on Episode 10:
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People often ask me “Hey Probst! What keeps you interested in the show after 21 seasons?”

Well, I’m guessing it’s the same thing that keeps you guys interested — human nature. At its core that’s what Survivor is really all about, isn’t it? Our nature as humans and how we behave in different situations?

Holly is a great example. Five days into the show and she wanted to quit; 22 days later not only is she still around, but she could win. What changed? Her behavior. After nearly losing her mind, she rallied. She gained a lot of respect and now is considered a threat to go to the end.

Brenda is another fascinating case study of human behavior. More on her later..

Tonight, the gold star goes to Naonka and Fabio for instigating and following through with a big move.

SASH & THE IDOL
Let’s just be clear about this idol in Sash’s pocket. (I’m referring to the immunity idol… just to be really clear.) Sash isn’t going to use that idol to save anybody but himself. No chance. Listen up future players: If you don’t have the idol in your possession when you walk in to tribal council, it is very unlikely you will have it in your hand when I ask for it. Yes it has happened on rare occasions, as when Parvati had a bag full of idols, but in most situations, the idol will be used to save the person who possesses it.

REWARD CHALLENGE
This was old school Survivor. Barrels, planks and rope. Very few rules. A group of people forced to work together and get creative. I love challenges like this. Generally speaking they don’t favor anybody, they’re easy to follow, easy to judge and they reward teamwork.

My favorite moment in the reward challenge was Benry’s “ceremonial losers backflip.” Again, another fascinating moment for my little brain to comprehend. You just lost but you still have enough energy, sense of humor, and lack of concern to do a back flip. Then again, maybe if I could do a back flip I’d have done one too!

CAMP FIRE
Yes, it really happened. While they were away at the reward challenge, back at camp their fire started to grow, and evidently it caught part of the temporary structure they had made to protect the fire from the rain.

It’s one of those great moments that make reality shows so unpredictable. It was just pure luck that the entire camp did not burn down. The juxtaposition of five people enjoying their reward by “pigging out” and volcano surfing while the other five were dealing with a disastrous situation back at camp was wonderful. Does that mean I’m some form of sadist? Or just a competent television producer? Maybe they’re just one in the same?

JANE DOES IT AGAIN
Love it. The immunity challenge was another very simple but very effective challenge. “Hang on for as long as you can.” At first glance you would guess that someone like Benry or Chase would be in it at the end. And they were. But so was Jane. The oldest woman in the game and the frailest of all the Survivors left. Okay, I’m excluding Dan.

The reason Jane did so well? It was will power. Pure will power. Once again, Jane surprised everybody and outlasted people a third of her age and two guys who were clearly much stronger.

For a moment Jane wanted to quit. The reason I encouraged Jane to stay in the challenge was because I hate to see anybody “give up.” I love when people surprise themselves by doing better than they thought they could. She’s been through hard times in life. She knows what she is capable of and she believes it. She just needed a little reminder. But at the end of the day…encouragement only goes so far. I can encourage people but I can’t do the challenge for them.

NOW ABOUT BRENDA
As I was saying earlier. Another fascinating case study of human nature. She’s very bright, strikingly beautiful, and owns her own business. She has a lot going for her in life. On Survivor she has been doing a fantastic job at managing relationships and forging alliances. She was really in a very strong position in this game.

But when things turned against her and she was forced to “scramble,” she wouldn’t do it. I was truly surprised that she never did. I believe the quote was “The last thing I want to do is start scrambling. It just shows that you are desperate.”

Uh… yeah. You’re desperate. Nothing wrong with feeling desperate in a million dollar game. You should feel desperate when you believe you are about to be voted out. That’s a very rational thought. Nobody is going to look at you sideways for feeling desperate when more than half the tribe is threatening to vote for you. Desperation is often a temporary condition on Survivor. It isn’t always fatal. Lots of people have been in trouble, aka “desperate” on Survivor, made desperate moves in response, and as a result survived the vote and ended up making it to the end. Some of them even won! That’s the game. You assess and reassess every moment of every day.

It’s a beautiful and vicious cycle. Even when you feel “comfortable” you know you’re not necessarily “safe,” and when you’re truly not safe, which makes you feel “desperate” and so you make a move to try and feel comfortable again. It’s why most Survivors need therapy when the game is over!

I wonder if Brenda even cares that she was voted out. I wondered it that night. I still wonder now. Could it be that Brenda is so used to things going her way that she doesn’t know how to scramble? Maybe that’s the answer to the riddle. Maybe that is one skill that Brenda has never tested. It’s a bummer she’s gone but proves once again that in order to win this game, you have to want to win and you have to be willing to make a move… even if it means acknowledging you’re desperate.

MOVING FORWARD…THIS GAME IS ON
Like her or not, Naonka is playing the game. She’s a fair weather participant for sure, but when she wants to play she is a pot stirrer. Marty would be proud. Naonka could win if she ends up in the final with Purple Kelly. Even then she would need to pray.

Fabio is also starting to turn it on. Last week he was laying back, playing “cool.” This week he was part of a very big move taking out a major power player. I think Fabio is really starting to figure out this game.

Lurking in the shade is Jane. If things keep going the way they are, people may forget Jane is even in the game. If Jane gets to the end she would very likely be a millionaire.

The Redeemer is Holly. I’m usually a pretty good gauge of what the audience is feeling and I think a lot of you are starting to like Holly and have forgotten about those first five days.

The “no chance” is Dan. I just can’t see a scenario in which Dan could win this game.

The other “no chance” is Purple Kelly. Sweet young woman. I like her. But she hasn’t earned it and unless she really turns it on, her best finish is to make herself a great person to take to the end because she can’t win.

Sash is “in trouble.” He’s going to have to work hard to stay alive now that his partner is gone. If he can do it, he could make a strong case that he deserves to win. Otherwise he could be gone soon.

Benry is a “long shot.” He could make it to the end based on physical abilities but at this point he doesn’t have a strong enough case to win it.

The wildcard is Chase. Chase is likable enough to win this game and wishy-washy enough to screw it all up for himself and somebody else. Being in an alliance with Chase is risky.

Did I forget anybody?

See ya next week.

Goddessatlaw
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Very annoyed we have to wait two weeks for the next shoe to drop. I don't mind recraps, but couldn't they cut us a break and have the recrap in two weeks and show the next tribal council next week?

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Okey, Dokey.......the analytical gurus over at Survivor Blows have ........
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compared NaOnka's outfit with what she was wearing, and the way her hair was done, when she walked away from camp in Episode 8 .... when she was talking things from the camp and trunk, and they match. So, the pictures I posted above that CBS put out as being the next episode, are in reality pics from the ReCrap show. So, now we know.

Costacat
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Still...


I'm waiting for the next real episode when she bails. I'm gonna laugh and laugh!

Goddessatlaw
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I agree Costa.

Naonka seems to have lost a great deal of her vinegar the past few episodes, I think starvation is doing a number on her and she made her own treat opportunity by quitting. I don't know what Kelly's excuse is, though. I'm surprised I even know her name at this point, I haven't even heard her speak except last night at tribal.

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Basically, from what the spoiler Missyae has said about Kelly.......
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Several of the other players said that Kelly S. pretty much checked out from Episode 1, on. She really didn't want to be there almost from the beginning. We have not been shown this, as we have not been shown much of Kelly S.

Mak1
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
Purple Kelly has been nearly invisible and mute. I think they still call her Purple Kelly because they can't remember her real name.

Costacat
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I was just gonna comment on the constant Purple Kelly name considering she's been the only Kelly for a while now.

I'd guess if she never wanted to be there, once someone else took the initiative and quit, she could follow along.

Seriously, good riddance to both. While I realize it's tough out there in Survivor land, if you don't think you can do it, don't. Let someone who really wants to be there do it. Assuming of course, that it would be someone who applied and wasn't recruited! :-)

Alaginger
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Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 4:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
One other thing to consider with Purple Kelly is that she was completely out of the loop at the last Tribal Council. She was the only one who did not vote for Brenda. She said at the TC that she was hearing all kinds of stuff that was news to her. Based on Brenda leaving, I would assume she thinks she is next anyway.

Biscottiii
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Friday, November 19, 2010 - 1:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
We wish you a merry turkey day.

"completely out of the loop ... Based on Brenda leaving, I would assume she thinks she is next anyway."

I posted in the 10th Show thread tonite from my fav exit interview site: Exclusive: Brenda Lowe talks about her 'Survivor: Nicaragua' ousting realitytvworld

"I still needed Chase, I still needed Sash to give me the idol, I still needed [Kelly "Purple Kelly" Shinn] -- obviously Kelly was always at my side -- and I still needed NaOnka to [hear]..."
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Kelly has been a quiet little mouse that we see & hear little of. If Brenda was her BIG Protector, after seeing Brenda get so blindsided in major proportions while, once again, being left out of the loop - who wouldn't expect to be the next to get her own torch snuffed too? She could easily see that nobody else was going to take her F3.

And, judging by her performance on that barrel roll challenge, where she kind of just sat on the barrel waiting for someone to tell her what to do, I don't think Kelly has any aspirations of winning immunities.

Alaginger
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Friday, November 19, 2010 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Bis! Thanks

Alaginger
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Friday, November 19, 2010 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Taken from an interview with Brenda:
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Were you surprised as you seemed that Chase and Sash voted for you, and that Sash didn't give you his Idol?

No. What people don't know is that I had trusted my main alliance with NaOnka with a little plan I had hatched, to take out Sash. I told NaOnka if Sash comes back [from the ziplining reward challenge with the guys] and says, "We need to keep Marty," we can't trust Sash. But he came back and said "We need to vote out Marty," [so I knew] we could trust him. But NaOnka went and told Sash, "Brenda's willing to take you out, watch out." So it was with that mentality that Sash said, "There's no way I'm going to give this girl my Idol. Anyone who's targeting me is gone."

Roxip
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Friday, November 19, 2010 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I actually didn't think that Brenda's departure was a blindside...she knew there was a good chance she was leaving before she went to Tribal Council. To me a blindside is when someone absolutely thinks that he or she is perfectly safe and the torch gets snuffed.

Aitch41
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Friday, November 19, 2010 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aitch41 a private message Print Post    
I liked when Brenda said "Ouch" as she walked off.

Alaginger
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Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Jimmer ... Jimmer ... Jimmer!!!

Please change the title above to December 1st

November 24th is the Recrap show

Jimmer
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Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Fixed up the title for you.

Alaginger
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Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alaginger a private message Print Post    
Thank you, Buddy .... appreciate it!

Okey, Dokey, Folks......the only thing new over at Survivor Fever is pics and transcript for the Recrap show, so I'm not bringing anything over from that. Saving for spoilers, pics, transcripts, etc., etc., etc. regarding the 12/1/2010 episode.......where we have 2 quitters.