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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Phil actually DID have swim trunks that matched his peach panties.. not sure how often he wore them.. maybe just to comps and tribal..

It seems that the two tribes sleep separately.. they have two separate shelters but Ometepe kept their tarp that they won (or were handed, per those who threw the challenge to get rid of Russell).

But I guess they also kept their rice separate.

Ometepe's rice container had a leak and so they got maggots.

Phil and I think Andrea spread their rice out on the towel to pick out each maggot and then Phil asked if they could combine rice and Steve and Julie pretty much mocked him.

Julie stole his trunks and buried them. Interesting that she was one who had to boot Russell but there she was at his level.

I was a bit surprised that they didn't choose one of the guys to boot, but I'm sure Phil was thrilled that Julie was chosen.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 10:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'd like to hear their reasoning on booting Julie and not one of the guys.

I also thought it was odd they expect Z to share the rice, risk their rice being contaminated with maggots. But I guess it was just Phil that really expected that? If you're going to live separate in all other aspects, the rice should be no different.

I'm wondering why Julie admitted to stealing the shorts? All in all it was a strange episode. And Matt is starting to get on my nerves.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 11:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I don't feel the least bit sorry for Matt. He is a kid playing a game. He may be playing it very badly, but he is taking time out of his young life to play a game. We all do stupid things when we are young. Maybe this is stupid to be playing this game; maybe it is not. Nevertheless, he is playing a game rather than dogging it along in pre-med or whatever. Rather than being touched by his religious devotion, I instead find it rather offensive that he is trivializing the deity by presuming in an extremely self-absorbed way that the deity really cares if Matt succeeds in the game he is playing. Perhaps the deity actually really wanted Matt to stay in pre-med, stay in school, and save the world or discover a cure for cancer? And instead, what is Matt doing? Becoming just another reality television flash in the pan, another Mike, uh .... I swear I am not faking this, I have really forgotten his name, but he is the biggest reality television star in the history of reality television ... okay, it just came back, Mike Boogie!

Okay, so Matt is asking the deity to make him Mike Boogie (and be careful what you wish for), and I just think maybe that is not of great concern to the deity. And, anyway, I just can't get into the Matt religious angst. It reminds me of those horrid Look Homeward Angel and You Can't Go Home Again Thomas Wolfe novels that everybody loved and I hated. I simply have no sympathy for angst. I find angst a useless, narcissistic, and somewhat ridiculous human emotion.

Oopsie, I might have digressed, got on a roll. I think what I meant to say was Matt is a kid playing a game. Matt is a kid VERY lucky to have the opportunity and time and luxury to take time off to play a game, and that's about it. I do not in the least feel sorry for him. He is, in fact, quite, er, blessed to be able to appear on this show.

Goodnight, Gracie.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Wednesday, April 20, 2011 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
Well said, Juju.
And I think I said it earlier too. Why would any god even care about Matt and this game?
I am offended that these prayers have become a part of this competition, maybe it is to purposely show how useless prayer is.
Doesn't seem to be helping Matt out, does it?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 12:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Redemption Island - Life at Ponderosa (David Pt. 1) Clip 3:45
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=3NC_Ar_cPv3LjOzvCyTR_tCcuP1E1jjF&vs=Ponderosa&play=true

David loses the Redemption Island duel and heads to Ponderosa as the first member of the jury. Catch Survivor: Redemption Island Wednesdays at 8/7c only on CBS!

Survivor: Redemption Island - Life at Ponderosa (David Pt. 2) Clip 2:23
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=rTNnR70bAJP6Eyu3Gi5CpEGVxyhIs9ZX&vs=Ponderosa&play=true

As the first member of the jury, David must fulfill the duty of raising the Ponderosa flag. Catch Survivor: Redemption Island Wednesdays at 8/7c only on CBS!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 1:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Survivor: Redemption Island - He's Getting What He Asked For Clip 1:43
Grant feels Matt deserves to be back on Redemption Island.
http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?pid=Cgd0ujlPHVNA0syktl2dcPXjXaMZUeoD&vs=Clips&play=true

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If Matt survives and the team has to start eating their own, my guess is that Grant will be the first to go. Like, another someone strong enough to beat Matt? Rob doesn't have any strong alliances with anyone - he's merely playing them like chess pieces & Grant is merely a pawn.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 1:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
[Phillip...] Rob needs to rope him in--stat!

That's funny because Rob claims he's responsible for getting Phil riled up: extra clip

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 5:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
All I can look at in that video of Grant is how the camera makes his right hand appear humongous! No wonder he was a wide receiver!

Alliet
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07-11-2005

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alliet a private message Print Post    
I wonder how much tolerance it would take (Rob, since he is the top dog there) to endure Phil for the entire time in the game. I realize keeping Phillip is taking the target off himself at the final tribal but could the other 2 in the F3 be able to put up with Phil's lunacy for the entire game? Yes, it's for $1 million but... well, the guy is cuckoo.

As for Matt, I think he's young, he took time off pre-med (how many other kids take a semester off for some world travel and he's not even having to pay for it) and he's not enjoying the isolation. I am guessing he didn't think he would be spending the majority of it alone though I am sure he realized he would be hungry. Most of the other people who play this game can, apparently, take time off real jobs and that's OK, right? As for his religious beliefs - I don't understand blind faith but there are billions who do. If the kid is leaning on that crutch who is he harming?

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I thought the people on RI had some food. At least compared to prior seasons on Exile Island.
I must not have heard Matt praying to win; I've only heard prayers to keep his heart and soul (okay, now I've got that song in my head, great) strong.
While I don't agree with the Julie's taking Philip's trunks and then burying them, I might have had a strong urge to burn them. With Philip in them...lol j/k, but man, he'd be hard to take on top of everything else they have to deal with.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
The kid is beat down, depressed and a long way from anyone who loves him. He seems to believe that God walks with him everywhere he goes, as does he with us all. I doubt God's too busy to hear Matt's prayers, whatever they are. And I doubt he's offended by being asked to guide him through this particular pursuit. It's no different than anything else we go after in life except that it's televised and for a million dollars.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
As a Christian, I will say that what Matt is doing is completely reasonable to me. He is NOT asking God to help him win the game, he is simply asking him to sustain him and to lead him. We do believe that God is always with us and that He walks alongside (or carries us) throughout all we go through. We are supposed to be always seeking His will in whatever we do, and we do truly believe that God cares about everything we do (the flip side of that is He also sees when we are acting less than Christian). As a matter of fact, from a Christian's point of view, Matt's actions are the sort that God wants to see...to not lose your faith or act in a way that is unseemly during a time of adversity...the true test of a Christian is not during good times but during times of adversity.

This is not to preach at any of you, but I find it just as offensive that you mock a young man who truly seems to have a deep and abiding faith as you find his faith....which of course is what the producers of Survivor hope would happen...that showing Matt's faith would lead to controversy and discussion.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Well said, Roxip-I agree with everything you said. The real test of faith is not when everything is going well, but when adversity hits us. Thank you for your post!

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
To me, it is presumptuous to ask God for anything. If there is a truly omniscient God, S/He knows what you need and knows what you want and will do what is best for all. I give thanks for my blessings but know that whatever is best for the greatest good will happen.

I am offended by Matt's type of prayers because he is trying to gain favor. If his need is met, someone else's is not. What makes him think that he is more important than someone who doesn't pray the way he does. What happens when two people are opposed and pray for opposite outcomes.... How many religious wars have been fought?

Taysmomcj
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03-24-2008

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taysmomcj a private message Print Post    
Mamabatsy, are you a parent? The reason I ask is, if you are, would your child be presumptuous to ask you for a drink, or a snack or a new toy. Or should they just go through life accepting what ever they get from you to be all there is?

IMHO..I see no difference in Matt's behavior and his prayers for strength than my daughter asking me for her favorite food for dinner.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
In our faith God WANTS us to ask Him for everything...in that way we have submitted entirely to Him. That's just the way we believe. Of course an omniprescent God knows everything we need, but in that He gave us free will He wants us to ask for what we need instead of just assuming that He will provide it.

Everyone has their own beliefs, I would no sooner make light of Phillip's Buddhist beliefs than I would Matt's Christian beliefs. Funny that no one is commenting on Phillip's communion with Buddha but Matt's fervent prayers to God bring so much controversy.

I would much rather comment on Phillip's throwing the race card. So often it is used as a defensive mechanism...if you can't justify your actions then throw in some bogus random thing that makes most of us squirm. In my opinion Phillip lost what little entertainment value he previously had at that point.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I appreciate all your heartfelt thoughts about faith and relationship. I totally agree with you. This is Matt's journey with his God and he is continuing to build his relationship with his Father. I like that steadfastness about him. He doesn't blame others or hate on others and seems to be trying to grow as a person through all of this adversity. I give him a lot of credit.

I, too, agree about the "race card" that Phillip pulled out. Even my AA son thought it was odd and not appropriate. That man can get under one's skin and it has nothing to do with the color of his skin!

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Taysmom, as a parent and a grandparent I can say that what I do is always for the good of the family. If a child wants or needs a drink and there is limited water, he or she might not get it. Of course they can ask for what they want, but it doesn't really matter because I am going to do what I think is best. God, unlike a human parent, knows what people want and need. A child needs to bring wants and needs to a parent's attention while God doesn't need to be reminded. JMO

My question is: What happens when two good Christians are praying for opposite outcomes?

The reason no one goes on and on about Phillip's idiotic pretend prayers is that it is obvious that he is crazy and is making up words. He can barely speak English. Are we supposed to believe he knows a prayer chant in another language?

Taysmomcj
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03-24-2008

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taysmomcj a private message Print Post    
Just like as a parent, sometimes the questions our children as are selfish and sometimes the answer is no. And it is not that God needs to be reminded, He wants to be wanted, just like any parent.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Given the mess the world is in at this point, it's hard for me to believe that God would take a personal interest in Matt's situation on Survivor while seemingly ignoring other world problems but if it gives Matt strength to think that then that is great for him.

Phillip is just Phillip. I'm not surprised by anything he says at this point.

I continue to be amazed at Rob's dominance this season.

Taysmomcj
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03-24-2008

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taysmomcj a private message Print Post    
Just because it looks like He's not interested in events going on in the world today, doesn't mean it's true. He is everywhere, all seeing, all knowing. He is with everyone in the midst of whatever they are going through in this world. It's up to us to choose him. He won't force Himself on us. He gave us a free will and if He didn't give us the space to use it, if He decided outcomes and reactions instead of letting us choose, then He would be no better than any of the dictators who have ruled in various countries of the world.

We are getting to see through Matt the type of Christian God wants us all to be. The ones who choose him, His strength.

If you say that He has bigger problems in this world than to listen to the heartfelt prayers from one of His children, then you are limiting Him. Then He must not be God, because He can't be who He says He is.

And I totally agree about Rob's dominance.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
So how about Survivor?????

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I was fascinated by the choice to vote off Julie, when Steve came so close to win immunity. If they are looking for someone to beat Matt, that seems to be a mistake.

Altho after stealing Phil's trunks, I'm glad she was voted off. She deserved it for not giving us poor viewers some relief from those ridiculous pink undies.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why the other people don't see Rob as a threat whereas they clearly saw Russell as a threat? Perhaps they think they can get rid of Rob farther along in the game or that people might be reluctant to vote Rob another million, given that Amber already won?

LOL - I agree that was rather cruel, Kar (to us viewers I mean).

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, April 21, 2011 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
Even though I would have swum for the nearest other island in the vicinity, at this point in the game because of Phil--he is so irksome--I did feel sorry that had to go to Tribal Council in his underwear!