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Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Roxip, the baby attorney that would think of me as "staff," would get his documents back EXACTLY as he wanted them - then when the partner would throw them back at him bitching that his billable time was wasted - I would tell the partner that the baby attorney wouldn't listen to me because I "was just a secretary," and he had a law degree (even if he was just sworn in three weeks earlier).

Whereas, the baby attorney that listened to his professor that a great secretary can make or break him, would get his stuff back looking fabulous because he would ask me to please help him and do what needed to be done because he trusted me to know what the partner wanted.

I may have to google David. I'm curious to see if he has worked any high profile cases and if he is a sole practitioner or with a big firm.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
That's exactly how it works around here...except that these days many of the baby attorneys do their own documents...to the detriment of how they are produced. They have decided that they can do them better than the people who are paid to do them (one of my senior partners gets so frustrated...she said that at what their billable rates are they should not be doing their own documents...they aren't paid to be doing secretarial work...and she does not mean that in a derogatory way). I have offered to my baby associate that I will be happy to take a look at her documents before she sends them off to her partners to do some minor cleanup work on them and when she has time she lets me do that...I always find something that I can tweak that makes the documents look and read better. Not tooting my own horn, but I've been doing this for a long time and that's what I do (my friends who are going to college always send me their documents...LOL).

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I've never understood people who don't use the staff available to them. I can't believe how many top executives I've seen struggling with things that are outside of their area of expertise. I've seen Vice-Presidents doing clerical work. It's nice that they are willing to pitch in but it is an enormous waste of resources.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Well I am not sure if I am in the right thread or not... but to follow the flow I will add that way back when... when I was a baby attorney everyone did not carry their computer with them. We did things long hand and gave it to our secretaries who cleaned it up and formatted it. Things were ultimately mailed to clients.

As the electronic age progressed, things were FedExed and now they are sent instantaneously by e-mail. The world in the law offices are "right now" not as much time as in the good 'ole days.

I think today's world has everyone creating their own documents which are then e-mail to the partners and ultimately e-mailed to the clients.

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
BTW, not all attorneys go before juries. Many do paperwork law, like contracts, business documents, wills, etc.


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
my friend called and talked to Phil today. He was great! Chatting with her like old friends. She told him we loved him and were rooting for him and he thanked us and said he was glad we were enjoying show and to remember everything is not what it seems. I assumed he meant editing.

She said she would call him again :-) I think she made a love connection LOL

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Roxip said: If they only knew just how helpful/destructive a good secretary can be to them.

Now, THAT is the absolute truth! Last year our lawyer (with excellent, clearly well treated staff!!!) had to get another lawyer to set up an Estate for my Dad. Our lawyer hired a baby lawyer from a large lawfirm that appeared to have excellent credentials, trying him out. Estate required to be set up before we could proceed any further with our case. I do NOT believe my Dad is the first person in his state to die without a will.

That uncontested estate took nearly 4 MONTHS to get set up! First excuses were that his secretary was "too busy, too busy", then he took off on vacation. Every time they couriered the documents to file with the court, rejected. My Sisters had to go 3 times to his office to re-sign the corrected paperwork.

Our lawyer really had to raise heck, still took another month. The last time the documents arrived to each of us, to be notarized & returned - EVERY single one of us siblings discovered the return envelope with lawyer's address was pre-licked - so we had to tear it open and scotchtape in the documents. Unprofessional.

My impression was that his secretary must have some serious issues with the guy. Our lawyer certainly won't be using his services again or passing baby lawyer's business card to any of his lawyer friends.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I thought ppl would think it was kinda cool we talked to Phil today.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Way cool, Pamy.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Uber-cool! :-)

Panda
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, April 05, 2011 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
Love that Philip mentioned the editing!!!! Super cool, Pamy, thanks for sharing!


I worked for a real estate attorney and she gave me waaaay more work than the other attorney at the office!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Pamy, cool that you got to talk to Phil...meeting someone "personally" always seems to change your perspective, doesn't it?

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I think Philip is a kind and caring, but eccentric fellow who is extremely naive about how he portrays himself (pompous) and how he is perceived (nuts). Anyhow, I would be his friend in a New York minute. I think he'd be loyal and fun.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It's really cool Pamy. How do you know Philip to be able to call him?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I actually think Phil is playing a character...it lists actor as one of his jobs on FB. I betcha he gets the last laugh :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Brenda, he had his # visable to public so my friend was calling to tell him about it so he could delete it before crzy ppl like herself started calling him all the time LOL

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, April 06, 2011 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I like how Dave said that was genius. Who knows, he may flip.