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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:20 pm
I'm a believer that whoever gets the votes in the end deserves to win, too....like the poster said unthread. I think Jeff was right last night when he said this won't be the last blindside of the season. I just love seeing the reaction from those that were blindsided. The game is really started last night for me. I'm now more interested than all season long because I can't wait for the poop to hit the fan. I'm just hoping that Phil wins immunity next week otherwise it might be too easy just for them to vote Phil out. I want to see one of the girls gone next. I wonder when is the last chance that Rob has to use his idol. I wonder how pissed people will be when they realize he's had that idol all along. I enjoyed watching the short Ponderosa clip more than watching the show LOL.
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:33 pm
I wonder how pissed people will be when they realize he's had that idol all along. i'm sure Grant will be ... he has put all his trust into him, even looked for it together when rob really had it... this will be fun!
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:42 pm
I wish I could see the reactions of Rob's followers as they watched this season on TV and they realize how much Rob was playing..
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:42 pm
Where do you find the clips to the first day they enter at the ponderosa ?.... Ive seen them posted on here before ... The one on CBS is just a small edited version, steve is already there.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:46 pm
Lost, I think they are buried in these threads. Maybe if I get time tonight, I will make a Ponderosa clips thread and copy them to there so we can have a "one-stop for all things Ponderosa."
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 1:51 pm
Lost you can find it at the cbs site i just watched it
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Lostfan
Member
03-10-2010
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 2:01 pm
I watched the one at CBS .... it is not the same as the clips of when Julie entered .... it showed her get driven up and get weighed by the dr etc ....
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 2:11 pm
There are always sore losers who don't vote for the best player, but for who was most likable. <shrugs shoulders> That's part of the game too!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 2:37 pm
I would expect Rob to claim that he has NOT had the HII the whole time, but that he just stumbled upon it in the last few days! Perhaps Phillip's Cherokee ancestor sent a message to the wrong guy?
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 3:08 pm
I, too, would like to know what Phillip's "oral argument" is that will "defeat Rob". Even if people go into the final TC willing to vote for Phillip, Phillip will be sure to talk them out of it!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 4:06 pm
If Rob continues to win immunity, he'd be smart to never reveal that he has it. It'd be cool if he never had to use it, made it into the finals, and after the jury votes, give it to Jeff or just lay it down or whatever. If that happens, I hope we get to see/hear the reactions of everyone else. I really wonder what's going to happen in the next couple of eps! This season was so predictable for so long...I'm so excited to see how things go!
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 4:58 pm
Perhaps Phillip's Cherokee ancestor sent a message to the wrong guy? Hahahahaha!
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:03 pm
I would like someone who thinks Matt deserves to win to answer my hypothetical scenario - If Matt and Rob were in each other's shoes and it was Rob who had been voted out twice, stayed alive on Redemption Island, was poised to come back in the game at F5 or F4 and win the whole thing, would you be arguing that Rob is as deserving as you are arguing Matt is? Really?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:11 pm
I strongly suspect that a lot of people would be yelling "fix!", perhaps including me.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:17 pm
See, now if Rob had been voted out and had a chance to get back in via RI, I'd probably be all for it! It's entirely based on emotion, which is how the contestants often vote, unfortunately. But, honestly, there isn't anyone I like at RI to want to come back in. Not yet anyways.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:19 pm
Hermione69, I'm not one that thinks Matt or any of them deserve anything, but I wouldn't mind if Matt won. because This silly redemption island twist changes or skewed the outwit, outplay outlast part of the game. And since Rob has had lots of chances to win the million I wouldn't be upset that Matt won the million but what I really really want to see is Philip win! ;)
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:21 pm
LOL!!! I would, too, actually, Jimmer. But shouldn't you feel the same level of "deserviness" in that situation regardless of your personal feelings? It is one thing to say, "I want Matt to win because I like him." I get that. I didn't want Russell to win because I didn't like him. And we're all human and we tend to want the person we like to win. But to argue that Matt, or anyone on Redemption Island, truly managed the Holy Trinity of Survivor - Outwit, Outplay, Outlast - just kind of boggles my mind. I just can't wrap my mind around that. And I know I would say the same thing if it was Rob sitting there on RI. I would not think he deserved to win. I think if you feel that strongly that Matt deserves to win, well then, whoever was in that situation would deserve to win, even if it were <gasp!> Rob. If the Producers are keeping RI, I guess I better learn to wrap my mind around it!! But it just doesn't feel like Survivor to me.
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:21 pm
Lilfair, I have to admit that I will laugh if Phillip wins!!!
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:25 pm
I have a feeling RI will continue to be played on future seasons. Jeff loves it and has been very vocal about it. And all his comments have been after the filming was over... So he has seen it played out and still says it's great... Personally.. I liked it at the beginning, I am done with it, now I really don't like it.
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Bbpeach
Member
07-07-2005
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:25 pm
I guess for me the keyword is "deserve". As I said before, however you get there, whoever you are, in a game like Survivor, you deserve it. Only about half of the seasons, is the winner who I would have voted for, or who I like. But within the confines of this game, I would never think anyone is undeserving. This season shouldn't or can't have the same exact criteria as others, simply because RI was added. This time when you're voted out of the tribe, you're not really out of the game, you just have moved to a different aspect of the game. Therefore this season is unlike any of the others.
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:31 pm
That is really well put, Bbpeach. You may have actually adjusted my thinking a smidge. 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:41 pm
That is a good way to look at it. No question that the show producers have changed the game. So I wouldn't be upset with Matt. He is playing the game based on the current rules and doing a wonderful job at it. It's kind of like how they moved Survivor to Wednesday night. I'm used to it being on Thursday night and I still have trouble wrapping my mind around the idea that Survivor isn't here for us to watch and enjoy and then TGIF. So if Matt wins, he is a deserving winner for playing the game the best way that he could play it based on what they gave him to work with.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:43 pm
I'm going to try to wrap my mind around that concept, just in case Matt wins! Yes, he's done very well with the hand he's been dealt.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 5:44 pm
If this were Rob's first season and he were sent to RI twice like Matt was, then I would want him to be in the final 3, bc he would have shown perseverance and endurance, plus getting back at the people who blindsided him twice would be a great play. But that's not the case, if Matt could somehow get back in the game and blindside Rob, a four time survivor, that to me would be a great play, and would give him more credit as a possible winner. And I do like Rob, but I would rather he was there will others who have already played the game, than with newbies, then it wouldn't have been so predictable. Still hoping for something big to happen, but I've been saying that this whole season, so, maybe I'll just vote for Matt to win favorite, whatever they call it, bc if he keeps winning challenges, he'll be the ultimate survivor come back kid.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, May 05, 2011 - 6:11 pm
I don't see Matt as being able to blindside anyone because he doesn't have a relationship with the remaining tribe to arrange anything. Plus they're all going to think that he's a nice guy, he's spoken to everyone on the jury in a no pressure environment (i.e. he hasn't had to backstab anyone) so they'll all love him, and has struggled to get through all the RI duals, so therefore he's going to be a threat at the final vote. I can't see them even using him as a vote to get someone else out, more than likely they will gang together to get rid of him again. Why risk keeping him?
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