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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 8:24 am
CBS should have it on their website, Nick.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:16 am
The big difference I see between Rob and Russell is that Rob does not take himself seriously (and he knows who he is) and Russell takes himself too seriously (and he does not know who he is)!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:43 am
And Rob is a multidimensional player where Russell is a one note player.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:59 am
Auntiemike and Lilfair, you both nailed it On.The.Head.
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Ark
Member
07-10-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 1:23 pm
I'm OK with Russell going. We've seen his game now let's move on. I've also seen Rob's game more than I need to. I don't find him quite as charming as some others. Let's move him out & watch some new game.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 2:17 pm
Actually we wouldn't have hardly seen anything of Russell's tribe if it wasn't for their plotting to get rid of him, since they have won everything...LOL!
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Dlkuhn4
Member
07-14-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 2:30 pm
You can watch it at Hulu.com
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 3:27 pm
It is also available at cbs.com -
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-28-2004
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 4:31 pm
awesome!
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:01 pm
Tish, I have never heard of Rochambeau. I guess it means "rock paper scissors". Whoami, I don't think Russell fell to his knees either.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:16 pm
Not quite to his knees (about 1min 15secs in) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrIwY-5GUgU
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:25 pm
Yea, that's what I remember seeing. From the discussions here, I was thinking he'd flopped to the ground on his knees and wailed and cried to the heavens. Bending over and resting his hands on his knees wasn't nearly as dramatic as it sounded otherwise. 
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 7:26 pm
Thanks Kitt, that helps. I was thinking that bendover was later when he's walking back in the forest. NOW I understand what everyone was describing.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:40 pm
I confess that I was a bit shocked and uncomfortable seeing Russell cry. You know - the old stereotype that "tough guys" don't cry. The strange thing about that is that I don't at all buy into that theory (that a man is weak if he cries). I guess my discomfort came from the knowledge that a bunch of people would make fun of him for crying. I think there are lots of negative things that one can say about Russell but I don't think deriding him for crying is one of them. Anyway, Russell rolled the dice one too many times and it just wasn't going to happen again for him this season. I can see why Survivor went back to Rob and Russell after seeing how boring the contestants were last season. Thank goodness these people are all more interesting.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 9:57 pm
Jimmer can you imagine how Russel would act toward another male player that cried? That's why I can't garner up any sympathy for his tears!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:02 pm
See, I do not see Russell as that mean. Sneaky and conniving, yes! Totally. But not outright mean. (Hiding shoes or other stuff he has done is not mean to me, he was doing it in order to get ahead in the game.) And that is the difference to me. Plus two wrongs don't make a right. And I just don't like to laugh at people who are in pain. And he really was in pain.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:30 pm
Burning someone's socks is not mean?! That was probably their only pair of socks. To me, that is mean and cruel. Pouring out their water when they are on the verge of dehydration? Mean!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:40 pm
But there is a valid reason he did it. Because he wanted to put his competitors in a disadvantage. I am not saying it was nice, but he did not do it just to be mean. He did not do it to hurt someone's feelings. He wanted them to be "off" as much as he could. To me there is a WORLD of difference. I just think laughing at his mental anguish/pain is mean.
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:41 pm
Oh I definitely think he has a mean streak. Calling people stupid is just one of the things he does that is mean in my book.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 10:47 pm
Again, I fully believe he calls them stupid with the intent of them playing Survivor stupidly. (Hope that makes sense.) I do not think he thinks they are stupid (as on an IQ test), just that they are playing the game stupidly. And he is not saying it to hurt their feelings, just to state that he is playing smarter than they are.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:01 pm
And the females are either beotches or his beotches -- like there's a difference, you'd want to be his? He's not using the words females, women, or girls -- it's beotches.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:35 pm
Like I said, there are lots of good reasons for disliking the way Russell played Survivor and what he has shown us in his post-game interviews. However, I have no desire to make fun of him for crying because I don't see his crying as a bad thing.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:41 pm
YMMV, but I still laugh like heck at the scene of Russell crying! A mean little man gets ABSOLUTELY NO sympathy from me - no matter how anybody tries to 'spin' his actions.
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Friday, March 11, 2011 - 11:45 pm
I don't think I made fun of him. I did say I rolled my eyes a bit when he went into his lament. But I was rolling my eyes more at the whole, "I shouldn't have gone out this way" thing, rather than at the crying. Really, how should he have gone out then? He got outplayed by a group of people who used a strategy in the game, IMHO. Throwing a challenge is just as much a strategy as is forming an alliance or lying to someone. So if he loves the game so much, he should have been applauding their daring move and congratulated them for getting him when two whole previous sets of castaways weren't able to.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 12, 2011 - 12:45 am
I guess I have a different view of mean.. Russell is many things and mean is one of them. Valid in HIS eyes, certainly not in mine. Guess I was taught not to destroy things belonging to others.. heck I was taught not to destroy things, period. I don't buy his tears and frankly don't care. He has tears for himself but sympathy for no one else. When I see tears of sympathy or tenderness, tears from being touched by someone or something, that is sweet. Russell cried because he didn't get more time to be mean and cause others to lose their dream. He had three chances at the dream. I don't have sympathy for bullies, much. I have more difficulty understanding the standing up for him.
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