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Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I want Grant to win! He's just so HOT! I kinda had a dream w/him in it last night..............He's HOT!

Ann
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09-27-2005

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ann a private message Print Post    
Merrysea wrote:
"Happymom, I agree. I'd hate to see someone who was voted off get an automatic ride to the finals. Matt may be a nice guy and he's had a rough time on Redemption Island and managed to beat (or at least come in second to) everyone he's faced in challenges; but he had a chance to play for the money twice, and both times he got voted off. It just doesn't seem fair to me that he might have a shot at the money (and if he gets to the finals, I'm guessing everyone will vote for him to win)."

But, the way I see it, he wasn't voted off. The game play was changed this year, so how is it in any way unfair when the new rules state that you're not voted off, just sent to Redemption Island where you will be voted off if you don't win immunity. Now, I can totally understand not liking the change in the rules, but I can't understand the idea of it not being fair that Matt is allowed back in the game when he never actually was voted off to begin with.

Nerovh wrote:
Yeah, I don't really like the idea of somebody who didn't have to play any social game at all (except the bit that got him booted twice!) going back in at the end. It would be easy for him to get votes when he had no part in getting rid of any of them.

How do you know he's not playing a "social" game? He could very well be doing just that at RI, but,unfortunately, we don't get to see enough of what occurs on that part of the island.
And as far as Matt having had "no part in getting rid of any of them"...the way I see it, he was the one mostly responsible for getting rid of each and every player voted out of the game, while the other players, on both teams, just got a say/vote as to what order the players were/will be sent to RI. The "voting off" was in the hands of the players on RI and still is.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
While I understand how some of you feel about the idea of Matt winning because he hasn't played the social game, I would say he has done so just in a different place. If he can convince the jury members that he deserves to win more than two others who stayed in the game, I would respect that choice. Look at how many people he's beaten to remain on RI. That is no small accomplishment.


Ark
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07-10-2001

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ark a private message Print Post    
I would be OK with a Matt win too. He's had to do much more to stay in the game than any of the girls left in the game.

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sallycat22 a private message Print Post    
Matt would have to come back to the game and win immunity several times.
I still think Redemption Island has taken time away from getting to know the personalities. If we don't get a chance to know them, it takes away from us caring or feeling any suspense over their getting voted off.

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Well, actually, Matt really was voted off. People voted and he was off. He was just off to Redemption Island instead of off "the island," but he was still voted off.

I originally found the Redemption Island facet fascinating, but I think it should have ended by now. JMHO, YMMV.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree he was voted off. And I agree that I think RI should have ended shortly after the merge. I'm not sure I think someone should be allowed to reenter the game this late. Early on I like the idea of a second chance.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 11:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm not fond of the whole RI concept.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, April 28, 2011 - 11:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    

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Matt is going to win against anyone if he is in finals. Jury is going to bond with him while at RI. Every jury member will be spending a couple days one on one with him and from what we have seen it makes people love him more.

As for God not caring about a game show..probably true but when Matt says Gods plan I think broader. Gods plan could be that Matt wins the mill and uses it for great things and thats the real part of Gods plan..jmo


I am pretty sure from the editing that Matt IS going to win this game. And - excellent points, Pamy. Those are exactly the reasons why I think Matt is coming back and IS going to win the game.

It won't bother me in the least to see Matt win this game (except for the fact that the network programmed it for identical players to win it two years in a row). Yeah, yeah, all the uproar about two identical looking surfer-dude kids winning it, and then people saying they are NOTHING alike, except that they are physically twins. It is the new Survivor meme. Surfer dude-looking kids win. I just hope this new surfer-dude looking kid doesn't immediately get arrested for dope possession. Maybe he will use the million to go back to med school, but I am fairly sure that when he wins, he will get on the reality show party circuit, and his highest aspiration could switch to co-owning a restaurant with Mike Bookie. Not that that is a BAD thing, since Mike Boogie is indeed the best reality television star ever to appear on reality television ...

Ann
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09-27-2005

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 12:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ann a private message Print Post    
Hermione69 wrote:
Well, actually, Matt really was voted off. People voted and he was off. He was just off to Redemption Island instead of off "the island," but he was still voted off.

Hermione, guess I should have been more clear and said he wasn't actually voted out of the game,so I don't see it at all as being unfair that he's allowed to return.

Matt has done a hell of a job of keeping himself in this game by winning immunity challenge after immunity challenge, and I hope he wins Survivor. If not, then I hope Grant does as he is, in my opinion, also very deserving.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I seriously doubt that this surfer-looking kid will get arrested for drug possession. I could be wrong of course, but so far his life doesn't seem to be going down that course. I hope he doesn't change.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I second SeaMonkey's emotion.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
The producers have really latched onto the the whole Matt-suffering-and-asking-"why-god?" thing too much. They're making him out to look like Jesus himself, especially when they show his lovely bearded face profiled in the sunlight and have a heavenly chorale singing in the background as he struggles with how God has forsaken him. I wanted to puke. Maybe Andrea will be kicked off next and we'll have a Mary Magdalene on RI. Too bad it's all airing just a bit late for Easter.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
I wish they would end RI now.
It has taken too much air time that would be more useful if it was used for us to get to know the people still in the game better.

Besides, people should only have 1 chance at getting back into the game. Matt gets 2 chances to get back in after being voted out twice by his tribe.

Brenda1966
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07-02-2002

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
LOL Babyruth. I had the same thoughts about the Jesus resemblance. It's a bit too much for me overall. I agree Sportsfan. Enough already.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I agree Sportsfan.. way too much time has been spent on RI... I don't even know those still in the game.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
To me, part of the game is having to get people that you chose to vote out to still vote for you to win in the end. It's different when it's a duel with one player or the other going home. Nobody expects Matt to throw up his hands and say, "Ok, you stay, I'll just go on home." People are less forgiving when you chose to vote them out over somebody else, especially if they thought you were on their side. That's what I meant by Matt not really having to play a social game. They are going to remember the ones that sent them to RI, not the one that had no choice but to face them head-to-head in a duel.

And for the record, I really like Matt. I think he is probably a very nice guy. It's just that what little we got to see of him, he was either praying, competing in a duel, or putting his foot in his mouth in front of Rob. I think the editing and the addition of RI has cost us all the chance to really know any of the players besides Rob and Phillip.

Tresbien
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08-27-2002

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tresbien a private message Print Post    
Think your point is spot on, but the producers surely never thought one person would be on RI time after time. So this really did skew the game because Matt hasn't voted out any of the jury members. Hopefully, they won't use this twist again, but I've found it entertaining to watch Matt prevail in a tough circumstance.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Is Matt really forced to fast while he is on RI?

I have never seen him eating rice or anything else.

I hope Jeff was joking about 40 days without eating.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Go Matt! Matt for the win!!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
They have to at least have rice...but probably not any more than they have in camp. I mean...it is Survivor and all that...but starving a contestant to death is counter-productive don't you think?

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I would hope they would feed Matt but he looks so worn out and weak.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Jeff has said in his posts or tweets that Matt and other RI members have rice and fresh water- just like the other survivors do. They don't have anything else, though - just like the other survivors.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Thank you. I am glad he has rice. I bet they could forage for food.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, April 29, 2011 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I liked RI up til merge then it should have stopped