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Reality TVClubHouse Discussions: Survivor ARCHIVES: Survivor V - Thailand ~ 2: Survivor V - Thailand: Brian Heidik: Archive through December 30, 2002 users admin

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Neko

Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 3:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
*Pops in*

Did someone say Ethan?!?!

*Looks around*

Seamonkey

Tuesday, December 24, 2002 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
LOL, Neko.. Down, girl, DOWN!!

Spunky

Wednesday, December 25, 2002 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I felt sometimes the same as Hermione did towards Brian and yet every time I read what Brian says I find myself agreeing with what he said. Look at that interview posted just above, the guy seems quite straight in his answers. So, he's "distant", but then again we don't know him intimately, but just the face he put on Survivor.
If he keeps coming up with his straight answers, I'd like him more and more...

Wargod

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Interview with Brian in our paper today.

Brian Interview

Car54

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Car54 a private message Print Post    
He hasn't deposited the check yet?

Great interview, War! Thanks!

Wargod

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
LOL, I was wondering that myself...no one would have seen it since I would have ran straight to the bank with it!

Only reason I knew the interview was in the paper was because as I was walking out of the grocery store, I saw the front page of the paper. There was a couple pictures of him and his wife sitting all snuggled up together, and if I remember right he still had the beard.

Hermione69

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
It may be a fake check for keeping or framing, like one of those huge Publisher's Clearing House checks. The money is probably already in the bank.

Lancecrossfire

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lancecrossfire a private message Print Post    
He indicated a huge interest in making more--I think he said doubling or tripling the amount get got. One can't do that with a yet-uncashed check. Maybe a photocopy (marked non-negotiable) or something as a memento?

Brian seems very business like in his approach to things he's done--at least in the way he talks about it later. It seems most everything he does is individual in nature. I wonder if he can handle being a part of a team? (there are some people who just prefer doing thinsg on their own, and not having to contribute or have others contribute--nothing good or bad either way)

Car54

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Car54 a private message Print Post    
I find this guy very interesting. He is going to be fun to have around at future Survivor finales and stuff.

Did Richard Hatch do much commenting on the show this season? I saw lots of stuff from Lex and Teresa and Diane Ogden and all the regulars, but not much from Rich. Wonder if he has finally moved on from this.

Lance, some people only view teamwork if it is THEIR team.... I have seen this a lot. I bet he views CC as being on HIS team...not theirs. He seems like someone who needs to be in the drivers seat whenever possible.

Seamonkey

Friday, December 27, 2002 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I didn't see Richard this season, not that I was looking for him..

I cannot believe that Brian didn't have the money in some kind of account instantly.

Alisons

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I am not a financial expert, but I would not know what to do with a million dollars if someone handed me a check. Bank accounts are only insured up to 100 or 150K by FDIC, so I guess you could split it up in a number of accounts. Though if I knew I was in the final 2, I would have a plan in place. Maybe he did not want it counting as income in 2002 because there is not enough time to get it tax sheltered.

Hermione69

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I would think that the fact that he earned it in 2002 would classify it as 2002 income whether or not he banked it. I don't think you can hold checks for that purpose. Any accountants out there that know? You made some good points about banks only insuring part of it. Maybe he worked it out with CBS to split the money into different accounts? I wonder how CBS disburses it. I still think it was probably a mock check he showed the reporter. If I won a million dollars, I would want a mock check as a memento.

In 5 years, I would like to know what he managed to do with the money. I don't think Brian is as smart as he thinks he is, so it would be interesting to me to know if he managed to double or triple it or if it all frittered away. His plans sound very grandiose. It would be easy to lose it if he doesn't stay grounded and practical.

He'll probably be featured in a "Whatever Happened To?" Survivor issue of People in ten or fifteen years!

Car54

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Car54 a private message Print Post    
You know, I bet the time between August and December was really hard on Brian and Clay. I bet Brian left that TC fairly sure he won, but to have to sit quiet and not have the real answer for that long a time must have been stressful.
Technically he was not supposed to tell anyone..and having seen his wife on the videos, she doesn't seem too discrete, so he may not have talked to her..which probably escalated tensions between them.
I am the most impatient person in the world..I can't imagine having to keep silent and wait for almost 4 months for something that big.

Hermione69

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I can't imagine either. It would make me nuts.

Weinermr

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
Brian will be taxed on the winnings in 2002 whether he cashes the check or not. They will issue him a Form 1099-MISC for 2002, and you can bet the IRS and California Franchise Tax Board will come looking for the taxes. In fact they will automatically withhold taxes from the payout, so he did not really get a check for a million dollars, but it looks good to wave a fake $1 million check around.

Kaili

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Think about the guy who won the Powerball- it was $340 million I think and he took the lump sum- $111 million after taxes. Not a small amount by any means but boy do they take a chunk out of that!

I would imagine various accounts, some under his kids and wife's (maybe) names, money market accounts, investments- stocks, etc.

Spygirl

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
I'm pretty sure the powerball guy took the "cash option" which means that he gets 1/2 the payout in one lump sum rather than taking the full amount and having it paid out over like 25 years. Still, that would mean about 60 MILLION went to taxes.

Seamonkey

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The powerball guy also got ten million "walking around money" to start.

Ironically, the guy is already a millionaire tho.

== As for a large check.. that isn't difficult.. you open a monehy market or brokerage account and then (after it clears) write checks to various places if you want all insured accounts.. it is up to $100,000 per institution. I'm sure they could wire transfer the money.

The largest check I've handled was $300,000 and it was disappointingly ordinary in terms of depositing the sucker :)

And of course immediately max out any tax deferred opportunities and set up that trust for his child..

I would volunteer to be nuts for several months if I knew I would get a minimum of $100,000..

Neko

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
*Sits down and pouts*

No Ethan?? Drat...

Grooch

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Agrees with Weiner. He earned it in 2002 and was paid in 2002.

And if Brian is as smart as he appears on Survivor, I am certain he lined up a finacial advisor a week or two after he got off the island, to plan with what to do with the money. He already has a child (and a wife) and god forbid anything happened to Brian and the money ended up in probate. The real check is already long cleared.

Whit4you

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whit4you a private message Print Post    
Well - I can't count the # of times I've heard multi-millionaires comment on how easy it is to make the 2nd million. Making the first million is not easy and most who hope to achieve it don't. But making the 2nd million isn't that difficult. HOWEVER, he didn't make a million - he made probably 600,000 which isn't even enough to pay cash for a decent house in most areas of CA.

If he were single I wouldn't doubt he could turn that 600,000 into a few million but he is married and his wife will want to blow alot of that $$ I am sure.. by 'blow' it I just mean spend it not invest it.

FYI the Lotto winner brought home 112 million - but he's donating at least 17 million of it and he'll get alot of that 17 million back in the taxes he had to pay on that donated money. I don't think it really matters though - he didn't need the money lol. His win though helps the 29 people he'd laid off he 'bought' a contract to put those 29 people back to work - so that's good for all of them I think.

Kaili

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaili a private message Print Post    
Wow, I didn't know that about Lotto guy- sounds like a nice guy to do that. Granted he can afford it but I wonder how many people would help out the people they laid off.

$600,000 is a nice chunk of money but hardly enough to be considered set for life. I hope for his sake he is able to do something good with it and earn some on it. Actually for his kid's sake. I didn't like Brian from the start of the show.

Allietex

Saturday, December 28, 2002 - 11:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
If it is easier to make the second million, I think I will just skip making the first million and start on the second. LOL

Wiseolowl

Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wiseolowl a private message Print Post    
You know , one thing to think about are the tax implications. I know that a big issue in the U.S. is TAX. The Federal Gov is too big.. bla bla bla. But come to Canada and you will really know what tax is!! America is so blessed with her wealth. You may think your tax rates are high , but compared with most industrialized countries - it is very low. I guess that the frustration that we all feel is that we know that so much is wasted - it's a function of bureacracy - they just don't operate on free market business principles and for the most part civil servants ar protected.
Add on the shenanigans of politicians, who spend for their own political gain - and its's a sure fire recipe for voter cyncicism.

Without going into details about how horrible our tax system is here in Canada, the only advantage here is that believe it or not - lottery prizes are not taxed!!
Maybee it is because most lotteries are government controlled plus the fact that we are robbed so much by the government through regular taxation that there would be a genuine revolution if they tries to tax lotteries. But it seems fundamentally unfair to me that these powerballs etc. that do have government involvement advertize and suck purchasers in with the "win 300 million" ticket promotion - and then wind up sucking more than half back in taxes. Talk about false advertizing.

Tabbyking

Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
wise, too bad they didn't have a lottery in canada when i lived in quebec in the 70's!
i think it's awful how they advertise the big money and you end up with about a 3rd of it if you take the lump sum payment. you get more the other way--over more than 20 years, but my fear is the damn thing would be bankrupt or something before that time and you'd lose it all some how!
what makes me mad about the lotto in california (besides i have never won more than 50 bucks on the damn thing!) is that it was supposed to go to the schools. like most people, i thought it meant in addition to the tax money already delegated to the school system. well, guess what? it was just 'another way' for california to fund the school amount. they aren't getting the tax money AND the lotto money. the lotto money is instead of the tax money. so the tax money can go somewhere else...like senator's and congressman's trips and perks, probably!
when we were little, we had our 8-pack of crayolas, our pencils, our paper, etc., provided. now, the kids go to school and come home the first day with a list of 27 different notebooks, binders, colored pencil sets, and so on, the families need to purchase.
anyway, i am off to vegas on wednesday. i have never won more than 500 bucks, but if i win big, i hope it is several jackpots of $1,199 or less. they don't take your social security number unless you hit 1,200 bucks in one pay-off.
well, i would take millions, even if they had to take my SS#!!! we were in reno about 5 years ago and the big money was 13,000,000 dollars. everyone was talking about how it usually went by 11 or 12 million and it was overdue to hit. i put about 50 bucks into it and went to bed. the next morning, there was a huge buzz. a guy in the casino where we were had hit! (circus circus). but the fool had only put in one dollar on the three dollar max bet machine. what kind of an idiot plays the big games and doesn't play the max? anyway, he got a royal flush and they paid him 10,000 dollars. i am sure that was so he wouldn't jump. imagine, if he had put in 2 measley additional dollars, he would have won the 13 mill! i guess he hit about an hour after we went to bed. damn!!!