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Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
I was not cheering for Stephanie during the second half of the season but found myself wanting her to beat Danni in the end (even though i knew it was impossible).

I never learned much about Danni and did not feel compelled to cheer for her. Maybe they should let Danni be in the next survivor so she can get some screen time.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Just because they don't show someone as much on screen does not mean they didn't play as hard.

Kudos to Dani for beating all the odds, including the fact she survived a merge with the opposing team.

It illustrates that she did indeed Outwit, Outplay and Outsmart all the others. A very well deserved win.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't think it's the "we didn't see them play so they don't deserve to win" thing. It's more like "we didn't see them and so don't know anything about them and really don't care if they win or not" thing. I totally understand where Big is coming from. And I do think Danni was OTR for quite a bit of the game.

Actually, I didn't care much about this edition of Survivor, and didn't really care much about any of the F3. I kinda sorta wanted Lydia to win, just cause she'd survived under the most adverse of conditions, but even then, I was pretty blase. I don't know if it's Survivor burnout, or reality show burnout, or what.

Note, too, that I have not commented on how many other TV shows/contests/whatever that Danni has appeared on. Whether she's gonna be a camera wh0re as someone suggested earlier, I don't know. But I suspect she's already there! :-)

I think I have exercised admirable restraint. For once! <snicker>

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
Gary mentioned in his red carpet interview that Danni was strategizing quite a bit, but she would wait until the cameras were off her, then talk to people.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Yeah...Jeff asked about being America's Sweetheart.

If you ask me, the way she responded to that question made me think she wasn't very fond of that title.

She said something to the effect of "Yeah, last season I was America's sweetheart" then as an after thought, "I guess." Like she didn't put much thought into it. Then she talked about how they were the same person. Like America gave her that title and she didn't really want it.

Rodan
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08-08-2005

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rodan a private message Print Post    
In the begining I was pulling for Steph but the further she got in the game the more she came off as a sleazy snake. I will agree that Rafe set her up to take the heat for decisions he made. which I had no problem with as Out Wit and Out Play are part of the game he lost me when he got so Pissy about Cindy not giving them a car and basically boooting her becausing of it I also believe he made a giant blunder letting Danni out of her promise but I think his head had gotten so big the he thought both of them would chose him to go to the final and I think he was shocked when Danni Picked Steph. By the way for those that didn't see it Danni was on with Tony Danza today and said that Rafe releasing her from her promise was one of the dumbest moves in survivor history

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Probably right next to Lex and company not voting off Amber.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 1:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
On the other hand, Danni has also been saying that she would have still voted Rafe out even if he had not released her from her promise.

Tracic67
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07-20-2005

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 4:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tracic67 a private message Print Post    
Is it true that they are giving "America's choice winner" a million this year, like they did with Rupert last year? I thought I saw a promo for that....

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I liked this ending of Survivor. I'm glad Steph got to at least the final two, for whatever the reason. I personally feel she played a good game.

Funny thing is, the only person to vote for Steph is the one person I'm most disappointed by.

Rafe. When he released Danni from her promise, I immediately said WTH???, but then I realized why...

Rafe was playing the "saint" card... Even though he publically released Danni from the promise, he fully EXPECTED her to keep her promise and take him, and when she didn't, he promptly decided to vote for Steph....

I thought Rafe was a nice guy....but it turns out he just wants everyong to think he's a nice guy...He sure had me fooled...right up to his last sanctimonious act.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
Kep421 I agree with you about Rafe, when he publically released Danni from any promises I took it that he was saying take Stephanie

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Says a lot when all voted for Danni, 'cept Rafe.

Apart from Rafe's 'evil-genius' machinations...I think living with someone on a daily basis bespeaks much as to how they voted...these people must have felt much the same as many of us...that Steph's constant feeling of entitlement was a bit too much to swallow.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
See, I felt Rafe's sense of entitlement was a bit too much to swallow too...

He turned on Cindy because she wouldn't give up a car to give HIM one...He definitely felt entitled to that...

He also felt "entitled" to be chosen by Dani and when he wasn't, he voted against Dani...

Talk about a sense of entitlement....

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I totally agree, Kep.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
reality this week over at the fishbowl should be a good show this week ... I'm just sayin' ...

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
LOL...Rafe was a doof...plain and simple.

Thanks for the heads up, LT. :-)

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Kep, I'd been saying that for a while... Rafe was playing like he was the nicest guy around, but I never felt he was. Something just didn't sit right.

I'm also amused at the machinations of the two who did not win. I think they blew it themselves... Rafe would point at Steph as being the reason someone was voted out while Steph was pointing at Rafe. Behind the scenes, I think both of them working to oust the other contributed a lot to their own loss, essentially cancelling each other out.

As proof that this season really lost a lot of luster for me, I'm still sitting on the three hour finale/reunion. I have yet to watch it. <sigh>

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
I'm still disgusted that Danni won. Talk about flying under the radar! I don't care what you say! She did! She did! She did!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL!

I agree though... she did fly under the radar. And switched alliances pretty quickly, too.

I have to laugh at the fact that she was never gonna take Rafe to F2 with her, whether or not he released her from her promise.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I'm ok with Dani winning even though I so wanted Steph to win. I don't understand why Steph is getting all the "backstabber" comments when Dani was just as guilty. She voted against her own and never even warned them, which is the way she should have played otherwise she might not have won. Every season somebody has to take the blame for what every person does to get to the end. This year Steph gets the blame, too bad because I think she is the best survivor ever!

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
Great post Denecee! I agree. :-)

Spear
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08-06-2001

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spear a private message Print Post    
Danni's alliances in the jury were with Bobby Jon, Gary, and then Rafe. She didn't vote to evict Bobby Jon and he knew he was going. Gary knew he was going and told Danni to vote him off. The only jury member that Danni really backstabbed was Rafe (and he practically gave her permission to do it). Anyway, she didn't get Rafe's vote.

In contrast, Rafe and Steph backstabbed Jamie, Judd, Cindy, and Lydia.

You can't always avoid backstabbing but a good Survivor player can figure out how it will affect the jury.

Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rupertbear a private message Print Post    
Wow...Steph the best ever????

It really all is in perception, isn't it!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Yep, IMO she is!
Dani befriended the others who weren't in her merge alliance so in my book she didn't do anything different than any of the other players, just looked after her own butt. She did good and won.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ya know, I thought Steph was great last time. But this time? I didn't like her attitude. She really was quite bossy the first few episodes. Yeah, OK, so she had some knowledge of how the game was played. But she pretty much thrust herself into the middle of things.

Denecee, are you talking about Steph being the best ever, or Danni? Cause your first post says you thought Steph was the best, but your last post is talking about Danni. So... I'm confused!