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Clp
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 12:47 am
Y'all this interview with Jeanne and Helen is one of the bitterest things I have ever read. I never liked Jeanne, but I always kind of liked Helen, but man, get over yourself, please. Bitter, much?
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Crossfire
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 6:06 am
Great read, thanks for sharing. I was surprised to read the bit about Christy tossing her hearing aid aside then going to sleep peacefully while everyone else had to listen to their spooky surroundings. I've not been keeping up I guess, it came as news to me that she had one. I thought she was deaf beyond the point where an aid would be of any use. There were other interesting tidbits as well. I like articles like that.
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Texannie
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 6:34 am
I didn't find it all that bitter. Very interesting read.
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Alaginger
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 7:14 am
I found it to be a very informative and interesting read, also....and I didn't find it bitter. I think they were telling it the way they saw it, as well as the way a lot of us saw it. And, I'm sure there are others that saw it differently. Such is life!!!
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Ladytex
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 8:43 am
I thought it was a great article, I didn't find it bitter either. Thanks for posting it.
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Seamonkey
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 9:36 am
Didn't sound bitter to me, either! Good article.
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Moondance
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 12:31 pm
No bitterness... a good read!
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Juju2bigdog
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 1:50 pm
Not bitter, just frank. Good find, good article.
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Gina8642
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 4:54 pm
Great article. I didn't see any bitterness either. They both certainly have an acerbic wit - something I noticed as typical of people from Rhode Island. I spent several summers there as a child. Thanks for posting!!
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Pamy
| Monday, May 26, 2003 - 6:55 pm
I loved the article, I didn't think it was sour grapes either. Loved hearing all the behind the scenes info. Thanks for finding it Clp!
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Squaredsc
| Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 7:22 pm
ok jumping on the bandwagon, great article, didn't notice any bitterness either.
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Clp
| Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 8:19 pm
Maybe it was because I read the interview after reading the Deena thread on SS. She really calls Jeanne to task for some of the things she said in the article and at the reunion. Deena DOES NOT seem to like Jeanne at all. I stand by the bitterness!
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Seamonkey
| Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 9:12 pm
Deena has tons to say, for sure, and she doesn't like Jeanne or Joanna or Janet (that confuses me, Janet), but Deena sounds more hung up on Jeanne's words than one might imagine. I read this first and then all of Deena's posts (up thru some point last night) and I still don't see this interview as "bitter" or AWFUL or Sour Grapes. I do see that Deena is awfully fond of Jenna and seems mightily impressed by Jenna's appearance, which is cool, but Deena seems pretty defensive about Jenna (to me). I'm sure each of them has their individual spin on things. Deena had some definite opinions about things that happened after she was voted out, like Jenna's and Heidi's attitudes about Christy winning the letter. Just for the record I really liked/like Helen. I did NOT like Jeanne much and I'm kinda liking Deena less as she says more.
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Gina8642
| Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 5:34 am
Seamonkey What was Deena's opinion about the letter? I tried to read that whole thread on sucks but I must have missed that response. I'm trying to respect Deena's opinions. Mostly because I don't think she does a very good job of respecting others' opinions, or least respecting that others are entitiled to them. Doing the same thing she does, just seems childish to me. She does come accross as hypocritical quite a bit. She complains that Matt is arrogant, yet jokes about how she is arrogant. However, honesty is what I want, without it, we won't draw any understanding from her comments. In the end, I am THRILLED!!!!!! that she took the time and effort to post. It really, really, really adds to the understaning of how the game went down. Even if I don't like her logic all the time - it is her logic and explains why she voted the way she did. Matt's interview is also very helpful (see Matt's thread for a link) as was Jeanne's. Deena says that Rob (and Jenna?) will be on SS this weekend to answer questions - so I think that will be terrific!!! I acutally really, really wish Alex would answer some questions. I promise to try not to slam him. I just wonder why he acted so classy during his last words but within a week or two turned into the bitter eye-rolling spoil-sport. What happened Alex?? Do you regret acting so class-less? Re: Jeanne. I'm realizing the more I read, the more many of the cast were rubbed the wrong way by her. I think the vast majority of Heidi's 'I'm so cute people hate me rant is in response the Jeanne's attitude toward her. (I do believe Jeanne didn't care a fig how Heidi looked, but Heidi in her delusion of granduer interpreted it that way.) So, Jeanne was abrasive - big whoop in my opinion. Deena complaining about it is like calling the kettle black. It does however, explain alot of what was going on during the game. Hooray for post game interiviews!!!!
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Seamonkey
| Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:15 am
Oh, gosh.. Deena mentioned Jeanne a number of times.. in one she said Jeanne must have been "high" to say something she said. Sorry.. I don't have exact quotes but there was no mistaking Deena's contempt for Jeanne, Joanna and Janet. I was also disturbed by Deena's continual remarks about herself being a "fat pig" and that making it ok for sweet Jenna to characterize Deena in that way.. if Deena is a "fat pig" then I guess Deena would think an awful lot of women are that or worse. She just seems to be quite the apologist for Heidi and Jenna. As for her take on Matt being "psycho" and her word association of "5150" (in California that is the code for "danger to self or others".. can be held for 72 hours) and yet her example is when Matt was suffering from extreme dehydration.. so to Deena this rather dangerous medical condition, which does indeed "look" disturbing, seems to be the reason for labelling a person who she admits worked very hard and for refusing to give any creedance to the possibility that some of his actions were an ACT. == I think it is cool for any of them to post and answer questions but that doesn't require me to mindlessly accept anything they want to put out there. I agree that Deena seems to celebrate her own flaws but be pretty negative about the flaws of others. Oh, the letter? Sorry, I'm foggy and not willing to slog through 17 screens to find the opinion but she seemed to think it was just fine for Heidi and Jenna to be so nasty about Christy daring to even want the letter. Again, since Deena wasn't there for the auction, I don't credit her with a whole lot more insight than other viewers.
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