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Lorry
| Friday, October 17, 2003 - 10:52 pm
Since Survivor is only on one night a week, the Survivor Boards seem to get a little slow, IMO. Sometimes I'll think of something and wonder what you all would think about it. But I don't like to chat off topic in a thread. Oh, I do it all the time...lol, but maybe this thread will help me behave. Anyone else wishing we had a thread just to chat off topic, but still be on the survivor board. I know I'm not familiar with the other sections of TVCH. I'm sure there is a proper place for people to talk, but then the people I want to talk to, happen to all be Suvivor and Rupert fans like I am....lol Anyway, I want to tell the Mods that they can delete this thread if it's breaking some TVCH policy. Sorry OK... First post...rofl Where in the heck is Enigma2 ??? Now it's my turn to "wonder" where he is. I thought for sure he'd be just waiting for the servers to come back online. Here I don't see a post from him. I'm gonna have to send out the dogs after him. Hope some other posters want to just talk when the Survivor board is slow.
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Fabnsab
| Friday, October 17, 2003 - 11:43 pm
Lorry, now is a great time to check out the other parts of the site. I never used to go outside the Big brother area then when the season(#2) was over, I started exploring. That means I spent all of season 1 and 2 in BB only. I didn't know what I was missing. If you go to General Discussions, you'll find most of the same people that are here. We just tend to float around. I wouldn't worry about having anything in common. A love for this genre of entertainment is what brought us all here.
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Enigma2
| Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 7:26 am
Lorry: the dogs are yapping at my door. I tried to get on several times when the site was down (how dare they?) and then got busy. Nice to know I was missed... And I think that this is a great idea. I just about have the time to come to the Survivor area and it would be nice to have a place to 'digress.' Especially since chatting in a Survivor thread is frequently the touchstone for a digression. Fabnsab: I made my first scarey steps outside of the Survivor area just the other day. I looked at General Discussions. Wow! It looks like a 24/7 endeavor. (I did post in an area discussing cable modem broadband connections here in NYC, and was amazed that the discussions could be so area-specific....
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Lori
| Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 7:27 am
Good idea Lorry...it's amazing how slow the Survivor board is compared to Big Brother. But then again, there are no live feeds. Now wouldn't live feeds from Pearl Island be interesting!
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Kady
| Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 7:33 am
Lorry...I came here during BB1 and never explored the rest of the board. After the show ended, well I had alot of spare time on my hands and I missed all the people that I had come to know. I discovered the new message feature which is the greatest way to explore the board. I found a copy of the instructions on how to use it and copied them for you... There is a feature at the top of the page called New Msgs. If you use this it will show you only the posts made since you last checked for new messages. It saves a lot of time that you waste wading through the topics looking for posts that you haven't read yet. To use it the first time you need to go to the top of the page and click on Profile. This will take you to the profile editor Enter your name and password and log in. Scroll down to the Preference section check the box that says Remember my user name and password in a cookie. New Msgs will not work unless you check this box. Scroll down to Favorites. Here you can check off your favorite topics on the board and New Msgs will only look in those topics. If you only care about Big Brother then just check that one and you won't have to see any other parts of the board. (You will miss out on a lot though, Our Community Corner and General Discussion board is GREAT and we talk about everything under the sun there) Click on Save this Information Now go back to the top of the page and click on New Msgs. In the drop down box beside Search choose My favorite topics. Check the box Messages since I checked for new messages and put in your user name and password. Click on Search. The first time you do this it will take forever and a day to load, but after that unless you have been away from the board for longer than a day, it won't take long at all.The first time you do this it will take forever and a day to load, but after that unless you have been away from the board for longer than a day, it won't take long at all. TA DA! You now can see a list of Thread Names and the posters names and first line of all posts since you last checked for new messages. You can click on any of them and it will take you straight to the thread. This makes it easy to scan quickly and read only things that interest you on the board. Try it...I think you may find it interesting. And remember the warning: The first time you use it, it will take forever to load.
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Lorry
| Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 9:16 am
Fabansab & Kady: Thanks so much for the help, and the directions on how to navigate. It's much appreciated. I thought I was sooooo clever finding my personal folder...hehe I'll check out the rest of TVCH first chance I get. Lori, I also thought that it would help us to get to know one another better, if we could talk about more mundane topics that are not part of Survivor. I'm glad you liked the idea. Enigma, you are responsible for this thread...lol When you were not posting, I didn't have a way to get in touch with you to find out if you were ok or just busy or what.... so I figured I'd start a thread that I KNEW you would see. Btw, Enigma, thanks for the heads up on that reality remodeling show.. can't remember the name at the moment. I watch it for the first time and love it. Can't wait until next week to see how far they have progressed. What was the name again??? I think others here would like to watch also.
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Enigma2
| Saturday, October 18, 2003 - 11:57 am
Lorry: 'House Rules' (Fridays at 8 here in NY on TBS) Here's a digression: I was just posting a comment about Trish in another thread and was reminded of some info I had found while tracking down Andrew's brother (maybe I should join the FBI): After returning from the Pearl Islands, Trish threw a survivor/pirate-themed costume party for about 50 people. She had set up several survivor type challenges for the guests (diving to the bottom of her swimming pool to 'retrieve' things). (It was made clear that no one could ask her about details of what happened at the islands.) Sounds like a nice idea by a nice lady.
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Enigma2
| Monday, October 20, 2003 - 3:25 pm
I guess no one cares about Trish's party... Lorry: You might try this sight for info on Pearl Islands (sorry, don't know how to post links): claycritters.com/map/spyglass_on_panama.htm Lots of links and photos on local floral and fauna. Also came across info on German version of Survivor at Pearl Island: Instead of 'Survivor' it is called 'Expedition Robinson'/ Pearl edition was called 'Gestrancut' which seems to translate to 'Stranded In Paradise'/ the theme was voodoo (not pirates)/ 14 contestants; several quit during course of show and were replaced with alternates (one of the alternates won)/ they use 'blinds' to hide cameras (contestants are not aware of cameras during everyday camp filming)
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Auntiemike
| Monday, October 20, 2003 - 3:29 pm
Hmmmm, that German version sounds interesting. Especially about people quitting and being replaced. I wonder if it's because it is so difficult or they just were unrealistic with their expectations. It makes me think of Osten who was ready to go home. Good grief, doesn't he realize that he signed up for SURVIVOR! for pete's sake. And....I thought Trish sounded like a pretty nice gal for having that party. So far she hasn't rubbed me the wrong way.
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Twiggyish
| Monday, October 20, 2003 - 3:29 pm
The German version does sound interesting. Our group of people never quit. Who would replace them? On another note... I got a flu shot today and my arm is sore. OUCH! I love these types of threads.. not that I'm a chatty person or anything. On topic Survivor stuff: Oh and I love Rupert.
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Reader234
| Monday, October 20, 2003 - 6:14 pm
Hi Lorry, Enigma, Auntie, Lori,Kadi, and Twiggy's here too!! I know how you feel, I kept hitting the top tool bar till I could post the url's, then I figured out how easy it was to not only post, but to get another page to pop up, so you dont lose your place here!! TVclubhouse is very user friendly, I tend to be on the computer illiterate side!! Enigma's site Kady, I really am interested in your post. Right now, its a lil more than my computer illiterate brain can take in, but I am so intrigued I will ponder on it before diving right in!! Thanks for the help!!
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Reader234
| Monday, October 20, 2003 - 6:17 pm
PS Lorry, I finally found your "can we talk" site you referenced in another thread!! I want you to know I have been going thru each of these pages looking for where people were posting about getting together, when I saw this tonight a lightbulb went off and I said "duh"!! Over at general discussions >>> general discussions a group of posters met in Southern California, and a few are talking about meeting in July in Las Vegas... it got me to wondering if anyone was interested in meeting in Chicago!!
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Enigma2
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 1:42 am
You guys are bringing up a good point. There seem to be just too many things to learn these days to get full use of computers. You now have to pick-and-choose which knowledge you decide to acquire. Just ten years ago, you could feel fairly confident that you could 'know' everything. Now it seems that there are many new 'bells-and-whistles' appearing every day. (With web cams, we could actually be seeing each other while chatting...)(and it's fairly inexpensive...) Which brings my wierd mind to: The eary Renaissance was the last time in history when it was conceivable that any one person could acquire all available knowledge during a lifetime.
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 7:01 am
Explain please Enigma ??? I hate appearing to be dense, in public yet...lol However, you always have such interesting tid bits of info... and maybe I can blame it on my meds..hahaha but explain what you meant about believing a person could acquire all available knowledge, during the Renaissance period. If you don't mind.
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Stilllurking
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 7:42 am
Great Thread! Hi Lorry and Enigma, a shout out to you both, I want to thank both of you for welcoming me to TVCH, both of you sound like great folks and I love reading your posts. Enigma, have you reached your quota of men? I'm still willing to play for the other team. Lorry, I think I'll keep the screen name for the time being as I've posted a few times in other threads but I think I was invisible to all. Ouch... It was much less bruising on the ego to lurk, rather then to be ignored. Perhaps you could direct me in the direction of the adoption board, perhaps that would help. Thanks.
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Enigma2
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 8:53 am
O.K. Let me try to do my best to describe this. The so-called dark ages were not really that dark. The monasteries in a variety of countries tried to prserve whatever was left of ancient Greek and Roman literature in hand written copies (Knowledge of Ancient Egypt was only through –say– the –somewhat inaccurate– histories written by Heroditus in about 400 AD) Printing was invented about 1444, and books became more accessable. (In 1465, Venice was a hot-bed of efforts to style Greek and Roman typefaces, so that the remaining texts could be printed.) Travel was also very difficult. (Let's say you lived in Florence. It would take days through dangerous open lands to reach Rome and actually see the ruins of the ancients. And Rome at this time was virtually a deserted city with only the papacy in residence.) And at the Renaissance there was a big sea-change in thinking. Previously, the church had discouraged any learning outside of it's own. People were led to believe that all knowledge outside of what was necessary to serve God/church was evil. The Renaissance decided that 'man was the measure of all things.' Popular literature was revived (Dante and Boccaccio). There was a thirst for all knowledge. But this was limited to what was available in books; what could be acquired by limited travel. At about 1470, it was possible for any man or woman to acquire all available knowledge, simply because that knowledge was limited. That special set of circumstances was never repeated. There were now to be new ideas, new books, new art, new philosophies. And too much for one person to accumulate in a lifetime. The above is sort-of inadequate, but I hope it's understandable.
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:21 am
Yes, it's very understandable... and once again Enigma, you have a way of sharing your knowledge that makes me want to do some reading about that period in history. I never get tired of learning. I enjoy all of the posters here. I always learn something new, or am given so much to think about. Thanks for explaining. I'm sure I was not the only one that found your post intriguing.
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Meridian
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:23 am
I am not so sure I agree with that statement. Perhaps in Europe that may have been somewhat true, but the civilised world is an incredibly large place. To have all available knowledge, one would have had to experience Asian and Middle Eastern Culture as well as all Native and Aboriginal tribes. Maybe one's education could have been considered extremely advanced, but it was by no means global. While this is a fascinating concept, I sincerely doubt that anyone at anytime has ever had the pleasure of knowing everything available.
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:33 am
Enigma, are they posting transcripts of the German version? Twiggy.... ohhhhhh I feel for you! My arm was black and blue and yellow for a solid week...lol I used that as an excuse to have my daughter-in-law do my hair each morning... hehe Oh yeah it hurts.. and then it itches...lol Reader: Glad you found the thread... I figured we might need this thread. I like having a place, easy to find, where we can talk about just anything... not worry if we are on topic or off topic.. just chat. Stick around... everyone is so damn interesting on these boards. This might be a good thread to get to know each other better, and develop some friendships. StillLurking: Ohhh pshaw.. hehe I'm glad you like the thread... so jump in... this thread is about us, our own interests and thoughts, and a easy to find place to just chat about things not related to Survivor. I know that last season I left the boards more than a couple of times, feeling like I was soooo ignored...lol I made up my mind to do something about it... to post... to not worry if someone liked me or not... and it paid off for me. I've made so many nice friends here, and now I don't feel so ignored. I do relate to how you feel... we all feel that way sometimes... sometimes posters feel so ignored they never post at all.. and I wish I could do something to help them feel more welcome and comfortable. We can all help them, and each other.
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:38 am
Meridian: I think because they did not have knowledge that those other places existed, they didn't consider that there might be more to their world. I guess travel, as Enigma stated, was limited to such an extent that they were oblivious of the rest of the world. Their world, and the knowledge available was all they had.
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Kady
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:43 am
Lorry, I just love you. You are so welcoming to everyone. I find myself searching out your name to see what you have been posting. You are like the Queen of the Suvivor area. Are you the Suvivor fan in your house or is the whole family involved? My son and I watch together but my dear hubby hates any and all reality shows. He uses the time that we are watching the tv to play around on the computer. But after the show, I have to push him off so I can get here to read what everyone is saying and of course check my status in the Suvivor games. ~~~Long live Queen Lorry~~~
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:45 am
Has anyone here watched the "New Joe Millionaire"??? I love the new show, the girls are "bi&chy" already... greedy, and drinking themselves into oblivion... hahahaha The new Joe.. Dave Smith... is a hunk, but he sure doesn't put on any airs... He might not be the brightest bulb (so far), but his charm is huge. Anyone else want to comment???
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Lorry
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 9:52 am
Ohhh Kady!!! Love you right back!!! How kind of you. My son-in-law and I are the big fans in our home. The rest watch, but they don't get emotional over the show. My son-in-law and I are Rupert fans. Since I'm wheelchair bound, the TVCH boards have given me an opportunity to forget my aches and pains and instead of sitting all day and brooding over my lack of mobility... I come here, meet wonderful people like yourself, and am carving out a small community of internet friends. It's changed my entire outlook. Now I have something of my own that doesn't require walking...hehe You all have no idea how much my family appreciates the fact that I've found a way to cope with my health problems... and it's all related to having people I can share my favorite things with... Reality Shows... and just plain good conversation. Thanks to YOU, and to all the posters here.
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Meridian
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 10:56 am
Lorry, I don't believe that is true either. Renaissance Men were schooled in the Ancient Roman and Greek Traditions, ergo they knew about the exploits of Alexander, et al. They would have also been aware of Marco Polo and his expeditions to the Orient. Any study of Julius Caesar would have enlightened them to Egypt (Northern Africa), Gaul (France), the Celts, and Britain. While I agree with Enigma that the Church advocated eclipsing knowledge to keep men obedient and subservient and that the Renaissance did attempt to free minds, I cannot agree that it was possible for them to have learned everything available. On a personal note, I am sorry to learn you are not well. My mother is disabled and she is my primary responsibility. You are lucky to have the love and support of your family as you deal with your situation.
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Enigma2
| Tuesday, October 21, 2003 - 12:14 pm
Kady: you are so right about Lorry. Ever since my first time in this chat, I kind-of look to her a wise and kind big sister. Lorry: I had Joe Millionaire on, but I was working. I only seemed to pay attentions to the horses. (I guess that's a clue...) Meridian: Ah, a stickler for detail. I should have used the term "Western Culture" And in an effort to not write-a-book, I was just trying to give the outlines. The 'acquired knowledge' statement in not my own idea. It has been stated in a number of histories of the Renaissance, one of my favorite periods in western culture. And, yes the scholars of the Renaissance were aware of eastern cultures (I only used the Egypt reference as an example) their main focus was to study and revive the spirti of the ancient western 'pagan' cultures. Even the church abondoned the iconoclastic art of the earlier period, and while the subject matter was still 'christian' the forms of expression were decidedly ancient. (As an example, only, am thinking of even predominantly vernacular subjects, such as Raphael's "School of Athens" at the Vatican. I am considerably less well-read in eastern cultures than I would like. But I'm aware that both –what we now know as– China and Korea had invented printing about 800 years before the west. However with their complex 'alphabets,' they found it to be a bit impracticable...
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