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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Sunday, December 05, 2004 - 8:36 pm
I have to agree with you Sunshyne. I am a vegetarian. If she wants to eat a piece of meat,who cares? That is her choice. Watching her push her daughter away,smack the dog,and asking rude questions about the cajun husband's gold,that is a lot worse than eating a piece of meat.
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Sia
Member
03-11-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 4:33 pm
Hey, T, long time no post!! I haven't talked with you in so long. It wasn't the fact that Barbara ATE the meat that bothered me, it's that she had such a holier-than-thou attitude about being vegan and the way she seemed to put down the Cajuns for eating meat (and fried foods) and then just did a whole reversal because it suited her purposes. I'm glad you reminded me of her abuse of the Louisiana family's dog. She was very rough with it for someone who goes out of her way to cause no harm to animals. I thought she was hurting the dog when she rubbed his nose in the pee-puddle he'd made on the floor.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:19 pm
So far looks like tonight's episode is a "gentle" one. I like those so much better....
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:30 pm
Crap, they just interrupted cuz of a fire! Can anyone fill me in on what happened after Carl had Vicki sit on the floor and banged a gong of sorts?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:37 pm
"Want me to hold your hand?" "Hell no, don't touch me!"
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:44 pm
Julieboo, you must be in Chicago. I got the fire interruptis too. Hope eveyone gets out safe and sound. These firefighters have their work ahead of them. So far this episode definately is "gentle" especially compared to The Vegan Mom From....
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:52 pm
It may be more gentle but Carl is creeping me out...Vickie is so right that he has those boys brainwashed.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:18 pm
I bet social services have taken a look see at Papa's family. From the little that I saw, the boys looked reasonably well adjusted. But Papa kinds creeps me out too. No Shoes? Who doesn't like the beauty of the Redwood? Where do they find these people?
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 11:14 pm
Part of me wants to say "hey, if this family is happy, so be it." But, they remind me of a little mini cult. They are not even trying to get to know the Mom. Those boys don't seem to smile or even laugh out loud. This show is another case of an extremist family thinking they are more enlightened and it is their job to educate the unenlightened. We saw this with vegan mom and christian mom. It is getting droll...very, very droll...(Fred Flintsone) I want to know what the motivation for the Taoist family is. They don't seem to care for material things. They don't even look like they own a television. Why go on this show? Is it to promote their Taoist lifestyle? I don't get it. I can't comment too much on the Nashville family because they barely showed them at all.
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 11:29 pm
That is a very good point,Fab. I wonder how they even found out about the show. I kinda like the extremes,but it's so contrived. I would not be surprised if there was a tv in the hippy family home.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 12:22 am
Well the hippies had computers! I picked up on that right off. I wonder how they rationalize that - probably for the kids' education. This has to be the weirdest one I've seen yet. That dad IS creepy and the new mom pegged it that those boys need to find themselves just like their father once did and spread their own wings! Creeeeeeepy! It does seem like a cult! It will be interesting to see what their friends are like next week. I wondered how they got into the retuarant with no shows. Most places require shoes and shirts. I also wonder what the dad does in Nashville. That's quite the home! It's too bad the mom isn't even trying to see how the other family lives and just want to put "her mark" on the family. She could learn to laugh a bit, but I have to say those kids were really rude to her right off the bat. I'd be so angry with my kids for not even trying. It's only one week. You can do ANYTHING just about for only a week! This is getting cartoonish. They have to seek these people out like CA family. They remind me of an old commune on acid. Maybe the dad dropped too much of it back in the day and that's why he's worked so hard to ummmm.. be... um..... lolol ... I can't even explain him and their way of life, but then again, neither could they!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 6:24 am
I wondered that too!!! That home is awesome!! Do Hippyboys go to school??? if so, how can they go without shoes????? and I was surprised a restaurant let them in wiht no shoes. All sleep in same room???????? WTF????? teen boys need a little privacy.
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Conejo
Member
08-23-2002
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 7:02 am
Pamy, they said the "hippyboys" had always been home schooled. I thought they seemed brainwashed too. Then again if they've never had any social interaction with people from outside their 'cult' I'm sure they think everything is 'normal'. I thought the mom from Nashville (Vicki)was a hoot! This was by far the funniest episode IMO. My TV listing said that the Tennessee family lives in Antioch, TN which is a pretty nice suburb just outside of Nashville (my aunt & uncle live there).
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 8:13 am
Do they own shoes? Really bizarre. Hippy mom seems kind of whiney. The kids were rather rude to her when she was singing but I have to confess, her singing hurt my ears. How old are Hippy mom and dad?
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Marebear
Member
09-27-2002
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 9:04 am
They (hippy family) were wearing flip-flops when they went in the restaurant, just like the mom was wearing when she traveled to the new house. Maybe flip-flops still let your feet be free They would sure need shoes where I live, or they would soon have frostbite! I was also wondering why the heck they (hippy family) did this show. They don't want/need material things, yet they are on a reality show to get $50,000??
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Pcakes2
Member
08-29-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 9:09 am
The Tao Clan was recruited by Fox after seeing their website. The mom is 51 and Papa is 61.
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Roppiepie
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 9:22 am
Hippy mom is broadcasting her feelings via "song." She's singing things that she doesn't want want to verbalise, but of course within ear shot of the family.This show constantly shocks me regarding how little flexibility some of these people have. I don't know about the hippy boys being brainwashed~they seem content, well educated, and content. It does bother me that the boys don't seem to have any individual pursuits like friends, sports, or regular teenage exploration. It may be just my own concsience or the social morals I was raised with talking, but "the family bed" is too over the top for me!!!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:34 am
Thanks Pcakes, I was thinking in the beginning the Pops said he inherited money, so he doesnt have to work, so the money may add to that theory, of continueing to support their non work style!! Will the boys go to college? The dad explaining information wrong is disturbing, in some states homeschooled kids are still required to take standardized tests. I was involved in a cult (very much on the fringe, and it is a 'socially acceptable' cult, it took counseling for me to 'see' the difference - between lifestyle and brainwashing, it is weird! GO NASHVILLE MOM , I cant see how she will be effective in such a short time frame, and there is no way the mom with her music can open up, she is so lost without her "leader", its just so odd!!
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:42 am
I didn't think the kids were rude to her about her music. They sat down and tried to have fun with her,but she was so set in forcing her own music on them. She just couldn't lighten up and have fun. I am really interested to see how hippy mom spends the family's money. Hopefully,she'll put it toward the kids' education.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:56 am
I have to say...I don't have a single problem with the way the family from Santa Cruz lives or what they do. In fact, I think it's kind of amusing that Vicki offered her theory of "brainwashing" when, it seems to me, this show demonstrates quite the opposite: they know they are different from the rest of the world and embrace it. On the other hand--and this is not just something that is true of Vicki, but something true of half the families on this show--a level of sedentary behavior, unhealthy living, and slavish adherence to a particular system of economic values seems to be taken for granted and rendered invisible. That invisibility is the definition of brainwashing, not a system that struggles for answers and wrestles with contradiction, as the Taoists do [i.e., when they had to describe their spiritual belief, as many do, they had a hard time putting it into words because the ideas do not lend themselves to easy iteration]. I wonder whether the irony police noticed that Vicki's "independent" children had become almost mirror images of her instead of independent thinkers. That's presumably what one gets when one sets one's children free: a pair of children who are enamored with beds and cracks on people who are different. I wonder what Vicki might have done if her children had decided to embrace a different way of thinking. But we will never know because they are chips and she is the block. [BTW, I say this as someone who thinks Vicki is fun and has a great spirit...up to a point. When you are in Santa Cruz and you don't see the beauty of the beach and the redwoods...well...I just can't imagine. Santa Cruz is maybe the most beautiful place in America.] But this show is just part of a larger effort to marginalize difference within the American fabric. If you eschew bourgeois values or if you choose to explore different possibilities, you become suspect. I haven't seen the Santa Cruz family try to "enlighten" anyone; they have just tried to live their meager existence, speak Chinese, do yoga, and explore a religion that has been around since before Judaism in a home I am almost certain has a higher market value than the one in Nashville. This show is quite insidious and troubling in many ways, I think.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 10:59 am
Hippyt, I'm interested on how Toaist mom will spend the money too. Only because of the looks of Vicky's house...it doesn't seem like they are hard up for cash. I can't imagine Vicky not having college funds in place for her kids. I'm still very interested in how Vicky and her husband make a living. I'm even more interested on how Vicky will spend Toaist families cash. What material things does a Toaist family need?
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:04 am
This had TN mom was very hilarious. I about choked when she said "H*ll no" to the Tao Dad's question "do you want me to hold your hand" I also nearly spit out my drink when they showed the next episode where she confronts TaoDad and says "You're full of s**t" Overall this is a show about extremes. But I think outside of obviously pair up it seems to be about Humor vs Serious. While it's all well and good to have a believe in something to not allow your kids any space to grow is doing them more harm than good. They seem well adjusted, I'm not saying they're not. But the boys are 18 and 16?? and they haven’t ventured outside their commune. TaoDad seems to not want to let them do anything that conflicts with what he believes in. He said he doesn't order but that's a load of crap. The HumorMom merely suggested that the boys wear some shoes and the TaoDad first words were "No". Then after she insisted then he said "Well they can do what they want" but even that bend was still in front of a firm no. I just think the boys need to get time to fly out of the nest then decide if they will come back home. By the way the TaoDad said that he earned an inheritance which allows him the house and the lifestyle that they lead. Humor Mom's daughter was rude to not try but then again TaoMom should have tried to introduce her yoga when the family was awake instead of pestering the daughter to get up. I wouldn't want to try anything new after someone bugs me to wake up. I think it was actually more rude of TaoMom to try and enforce her ways on the family on her first day in the house. Now the singing incident, I think the kids were rude but they were trying to have fun. Here’s what I didn’t get. Why did TaoMom expect instantly for the HumorKids to obediently follow her instructions without compliant? She was way too serious in trying to get them to play bluegrass. And if she could at least impart some history of bluegrass and link it blues and r&b maybe the kids might have listened. It’s not really that far of a stretch. She could have even linked it to gospel but she expected these kids to just play her type of music without any reaction....c’mon now. If the TaoFamily was recruited by Fox, one wonders why they would even agree to do the show. I mean it’s not as if they invented Taoism and are the first people to practice it. On a side note, while I think it’s nice that the family knows Chinese but outside of being able to order in a restaurant where is it going to apply? Since the kids have a home school education and it doesn’t seem as if they’re going to college, what job are they going to get where being fluent in Chinese will become a factor? The positive side to all this is that this has been the funniest episode of Trading Spouses yet! HumorMom kills me with her comments!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:16 am
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/November/14/local/stories/02local.htm Interesting yet so blah article.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:22 am
Here's the blog of one of the Taoist boys: Playing By Ear
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:23 am
Tishala while I understand your point of view. I do think that the TaoMom was trying to enforce her views on the TNFamily when she woke up the daughter at 7am to do yoga because that is what her family did. Also, not everyone is in love with nature. I don't mind anyone with a different lifestyle or religion. But one day of trying something new isn't going to hurt anyone. And I think the HumorMom proved that by trying yoga and venturning into the woods even when it was clear she didn't really enjoy it. I have to disagree that her kids are carbon copies of her. I think they're have their own individual personalities. I can't really see that in the TaoKids. Well I saw a glimmer of the 18 year old TaoKid and he is funny when it comes out. When he explained about his family doing yoga: "It's not like I say "Yea! Yoga,! it's just something we do." At any rate, it makes for an entertaining show. But we can't say it's not explotive but then again everyone has the option to say "No".
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