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Luvmyjrt
Member
09-18-2003
| Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 4:25 pm
Oh, Lurk..........you take me back. My father passed away many years ago, but his job often brought us to Lancaster and we ALWAYS stayed at the Host Inn. I still tell my husband and son about the "stalls" we sat it that serves as jacuzzis. Such great memories for me with my family and my wonderful father. I love Lancaster, in fact, how much closer can you get to Climax and Intercourse, PA? Those nutty Amish!!!
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 9:42 am
WOW I can so relate Luv! I wanted to answer yesterday (and post the info in folders) but the board was crawling. My died died when I was 17, and we used to go for many years before then. When I went a couple years ago I didn't stay at the Host (it's gone through several owners but now it's the Host, but not Host Farm again). But we did visit and eat there. I was amazed at how much of it was the same, especially out by the pool. I have some pics if you would like to see it. But I stood crying at the golf course for my Dad...that's how we found the place. He was a AVID golfer, so this ended up the perfect resort. He could go golf each day while we did resort stuff. I wasn't sure how I would take going back, but as bittersweet as it was, it was wonderful. Did you stay there back when they had those cocktail parties mid-day and the relatively big name entertainment in the showroom? To this day I'd kill for their french toast logs. Man the food was out of this world there. Very very fond memories for me too! Last trip I did get one of those magnets with all the surrounding towns hehehe. Let's not forget Blue Ball etc 
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 9:57 am
I grew up in a region where many Amish live (St. Mary's County, MD). My family has a long tradition of friendship with the Amish community. My father used to make a spare buck or two while he was in high school by driving Amish adults to visit their relatives in other parts of the state, or in PA. My father's family are farmers, and I remember once when one of my grandparents' barns was struck by lightning -- the barn was filled with drying tobacco, and the whole thing went up in flames. About 20 men from the Amish community were there -- with supplies -- within 2 days and, alongside my uncles (there are 9 of them!), they began to rebuild the barn. No one asked them to. And they asked for nothing in return -- not even my grandmother's offered cooking. I was maybe 11 or 12 at the time, and I remembered watching this group of strong people, working so quietly and diligently, and being wowed by it. Even my loudmouth uncles kept it quiet that week. Just recently when I was "back home," my dad and I took a drive down to visit one of his sisters (there are 6 of them!). We stopped to get some eggs from an Amish farm that my dad hadn't visited in many many years (at least 10). The elderly man came out and without missing a beat, said "Cleo (his local nickname), where have you been all these years?" I was floored. This is off-topic, I know, but I thought I'd share.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 3:11 pm
Ok mailed or posted to all who wanted info (let me know if I missed anyone). Real, I used addy from your web site hope that was ok. And I'm so glad you did Yankee. I don't know about anyone else but I love the posts where it's not just the show on hand but like this whole thread where we share experiences and get to know each other as real folks not just names on a board! Not only a great story, but that is always one of the things I loved about the Amish community. There is a lot I couldn't survive, but love how they are all there for each other. I would kill for more of that in my life! Last, Saphyre believe it or not I found a menu for that restaurant. Prices have gone up a tad since I was there, but I think they are still VERY reasonable.....you can check it out here if you want http://www.dienners.com/images/Takeout_Menu_2003.pdf BTW for those watching the rerun tonight...it's not on here due to baseball. Hope you guys get it!
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Delightawaits
Member
07-07-2004
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 3:12 pm
Fascinating stuff, you guys - I'm glad to have found this thread, having watched the show's premiere the other night. I've done quite a bit of reading about the Amish and own a couple of 'Amish country' cookbooks. Many of you echo my thoughts on seeing the show, as does the article excerpt above - I was surprised when some of the kids knew certain kinds of slang, e.g. 'freaked me out,' and that one of the women had dyed hair (didn't notice till she took it down and I could see a couple inches of roots, eek!)and the kid with the earring, yeah. Wouldn't the dye and earring be 'vanity'? I thought so, and was wondering if they'd already begun their 'rumspringa'. I haven't had a chance to read this whole thread yet, but did anyone else catch that the vegan girl did not know some rather KEY things about president Abe Lincoln -- like that he was *assassinated*?!! Ok, history is not everyone's strong suit, but this particular event looms kind of large for most people even if they didn't pay a lot of attention in history class. While shopping, when I think Mose commented to the vegan that he liked having eggs 'like Abe Lincoln' the girl replied 'Yeah and I bet he died at like 35' seeming to imply it's because he ate animal products....! I laughed out loud. Then again, she's the same one who later said with all apparent seriousness that she finds cows weird and that they come from outer space. I thought at first she was just putting people on, but now I'm just not so sure... BTW - there is at least one fascinating documentary on the rumspringa rite - you can get it through Netflix if your local vid store doesn't have it.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 3:24 pm
Interesting. I just Googled "rumspringa." Naturally a lot of hits, and I only clicked on a few. But the consensus seem to be that Rumspringa starts when a person reaches 16. I wonder if there's a set time that Rumspringa lasts?
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 5:13 pm
I just caught the first part of the repeat show tonight and at the beginning the Amish kids all spoke of their life and how they grew up in the past tense (ie, Ruth said I would get up at 5 am and I would go to bed at 9). That implies to me that they are already on rumspringa and in the world. That would explain their current clothes, hairstyles, slang, etc.
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Tk4x5
Member
07-10-2004
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 5:17 pm
Hey, hey I was just coming to BUMP this thread, but you beat me too it Beach!! Delight, when checking out links about the series I read that 2 of the producers from the documentary "Devil's Playground (2002)" also worked on this series.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 5:24 pm
Miriam just said that she grew up Amish till she was 18 1/2, so I guess she went rumspringa at that time and is now 21 and well into rumspringing. I love that term, I am going on vacation week after next and will tell everyone I am going rumspringa with Captain Morgan! Randy has a hot bod, but his voice doesn't match his bod.
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Phatcat
Member
03-08-2004
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 5:32 pm
I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! I can't wait to read all this thread. I saw most of the show the other night and I am now watching the rerun on UPN. I really like Mose...and cried when he almost drowned in the ocean. I think it is so sweet when they experience their firsts...airplane flights, going to the beach, escalator rides, etc.
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Delightawaits
Member
07-07-2004
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 5:38 pm
Whoami, from what I've read and seen on the documentary I referred to in my post above, rumspringa lasts "as long as it takes" for the person to make the decision to leave Amish life or return to it permanently. Here is an article about the movie to which I referred: http://www.21cmagazine.com/issue1/devils_playground.html And Beachcomber -- I cringed the first time I heard Randy speak! I thought he had a great body too but as soon as he opened his mouth, I was thinking I'd rather have a guy with an average body and a more, er, manly (or even just normal?!) voice. Not to bad-mouth the kid, just an observation. I love this show so far and look forward to 'getting to know' all the participants better.
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Indybarb
Member
06-26-2004
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 6:18 pm
WOW you guys..... tears coming to my eyes.. I am FROM Lancaster and know and remember all you are talking about. I worked for a cardiologist in Lancaster General Hospital and we had quite a few Amish families come in... with the inner marriages, they do have quite a few kinds of heart ailments. I got to know one family quite well and went to their lovely home.. When I got married, their daughter made a baby quilt for me.. they were wonderful people. My dad was in the coffee business and I often went with him to deliver to stores and restaurants in Lancaster County... It was a wonderful place to grow up!! Thanks for taking me back a bit.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 7:29 pm
I just saw this show tonight and loved it! I thought it awfully funny that the guy from LA (who may be gay or metrosexual?) was the most freaked and unaccepting of the Amish at first. I love Mose...he is so funny. I like the Amish girls too. They are so spunky and spirited. The plastic barbie dolls pale in comparison. It was wonderful to see them experience many new things for the first time. ROFL @ the vegan who said cows are aliens. She was so rude when she went shopping when anything she didn't eat was brought up for purchase. Hmmm...maybe she's an alien, eh? She did save Mose though, so she scored points for that.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, July 30, 2004 - 7:58 pm
FYI; July 30, 2004 -- UPN's "Amish in the City" debuted strongly Wednesday night. The reality series, mixing Amish and city kids in a Hollywood house, finished second from 8 to 10 p.m. with 5.2 million viewers (and third for the night). "Amish" finished first in New York on Ch. 9, and ranked first in its timeslot in L.A., Philadelphia and Boston. "Amish" helped UPN increase its Wednesday night season average by 83 percent in total viewers — and by a whopping 120 percent in adults 18-34. — Michael Starr
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Saphyre
Member
08-01-2001
| Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 7:05 am
Rslover - Thanks for letting me know about Groff's Farm Restaurant. Lurk - Thanks for the info on Dienners. I know we've been past Dutch Haven dozens of times but never noticed that restaurant, probably due to Miller's Restaurant being there. We've never stayed up there since its a day trip for us, but I know they have good deals. We tend to eat at the Amish Barn Restaurant on Route 340. The prices aren't bad and you can choose menu items or a family style meal (we always pick family style). Oh and I always have to get a cup of their chicken corn chowder as I just love that.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 8:03 am
Top Ten Signs Your Amish Teen Is In Trouble 10. Sometimes stays in bed til after 6am. 9. In his sock drawer, you find pictures of women without bonnets. 8. Shows up at barn raisings in full "Kiss" makeup. 7. When you criticize him, he yells, "Thou suck!" 6. His name is Jebediah, but he goes by "Jeb Daddy." 5. Defiantly says, "If I had a radio, I'd listen to rap." 4. You come upon his secret stash of colorful socks. 3. Uses slang expression: "Talk to the hand, cause the beard ain't listening." 2. Was recently pulled over for "driving under the influence of cottage cheese." 1. He's wearing his big black hat backwards.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 11:59 am
You are most welcome Saphyre. I've been to Dutch Haven a million times and never noticed it. Wonder how long it's been there. But like I say it is very non-descript and just blends in. We only found it cause I asked a local for a good place versus a tourist trap. Sure wish I was close enough to take day trips there. Oh to go to Roots Farmer's Market....SIGH. Also, there is a very interesting film on Rumspringa in Lancaster. Here's the link http://www.800padutch.com/z/amishexperience.htm. My friend was more into this than me, but it was air conditioned and you could sit so I said sure lol. It was quite well done and interesting. If I recall right it was by Kitchen Kettle Village (lots of little fake quaint shops, terrible jams, best tshirts I found there!) Cute Tishala! BTW isn't it interesting how many of us here have really touching memories tied to Amish country? And here I thought it was just me 
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, July 31, 2004 - 7:04 pm
You know who else used that "Milk is Cow Pus" thing?? Holly from BB5. I've found this to be and interesting show and will keep watching it.
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Schoolmarm
Member
02-18-2001
| Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 5:20 am
I just got back from Annville and went to Lancaster County for dinner at the Amish Barn and Restaurant, which is very good. I highly recommend the Chicken pot pie and German chocolate cake. I was disappointed in the tourist-y-ness and fancy-ness of the Amish in Lancaster county. You would see a "normal" house with flowers and everything and a buggy in the garage. The Amish who live by me are all in very simple white frame houses with outhouses and no flowers. Ours must be Old Order Amish, as they don't have blinking lights on their buggies and we FINALLY got them to put the orange triangle after my friend's mom hit a buggy and killed the horse. We wandered in the backroads and saw some more "plain" Amish. It was a good trip. I still prefer the Smicksburg Amish area in PA....little shops, but more authentic. Many of the shops in Intercourse and Bird-in-hand were simply country crafts and not really Amish. I am much more familiar with the Hutterite community in the Amana Colonies in Iowa. The food is to die for there, too! I love the show, and hope that I can catch it next week. My cable doesn't come in until Thursday.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 11:29 am
If I recall right Schoolmarm they were ordered by law to put the lights and triangles on their buggy after a few deadly accidents. (Yikes for your friends Mom). They even built buggy lanes on some roads which was delightful, versus sitting behind them going 2 mi an hour. As for more fancy, all I can say is from years of reading about them, the Amish seem to vary greatly in what is allowed from community to community depending on the local Bishops. Lancasted is about 500X more built up now than when I went as a kid. Back then there were no factory outlets, and about half the tourist traps. While part of me liked it a lot better then I have to admit there was some great shopping last time lol. But I would love to explore less touristy developed areas. Where is Smicksburg in relationship to Lancaster? What I found sad with the shops is not only are a lot of the "English" ones there selling imported stuff, but I saw the same junk mixed in with real stuff at Amish roadstands (yes as we've said they are good business people...sigh). Hope you get to see it. Maybe they'll rerun it again. Any chance you can move up the cable install??? lol How did you see without cable to love it...would that work again? lol
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Conejo
Member
08-23-2002
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 6:55 am
New episode tonight at 8:00pm eastern on UPN for those that are interested.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 9:19 am
Seamonkey......ooh, Holly said that too? Weird how these girls think. The girl who is a Vegan on the Amish in City show is a beautiful girl, but sure has some weird ideas. She reminds me of Gweneth Paltrow. Thanks for the heads up Conejo. I'll set my VCR.
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Tk4x5
Member
07-10-2004
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 10:50 am
The creator of "Amish in the City" is going to be on Fox News Dayside, well, right now, wish I had known earlier so I could have given a heads-up.
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 5:18 pm
Anybody else watching right now?
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 5:27 pm
I am watching. I hope "the gang" learned a thing or two from the developmentally challenged people.
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