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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 12:52 pm
you're welcome Xena. I am glad other TVCHers are watching, as I love this show. Carlito, did you see the entire fight between Otis & Mince? I thought it was close, but Mince was slightly better. But I don't know enough about boxing scoring, to know who scored better. But it was a good fight.
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Xena
Member
10-14-2004
| Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 3:04 pm
I can't believe it. I am finally getting to see another episode. I'm glad I didn't miss it again.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Sunday, October 24, 2004 - 10:27 pm
HI all.Hope every one had the chance to see sundays episode.It was great! They did bring Otis back against Mike Villejo. It was a great tough fight. This episode had the winner fighting two fights within 48 hours. They were excellent fights. Pottedplant i did see the entire fight with Otis against Mince.I agree it was a very close fight but i thought Otis landed more punches and they were more effective than the punches landed by Mince. You will enjoy the latest episode beause it is non stop action and tests of courage and conditioning on the part of each fighter. If anyone missed the episode it will be shown again today at 2pm EST on FSN.
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Xena
Member
10-14-2004
| Monday, October 25, 2004 - 7:15 am
Otis really tore into Mike. I really wanted Mike to win. Otis came back and said I'm not leaving this time and whooped butt. Mike wasn't a sore loser. Isn't that sweet how he proposed to her?I missed the second fight cause I had to get my little girl ready for bed,but I'll catch the rerun.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Monday, October 25, 2004 - 7:54 am
ITA with you Xena.I was pulling for Mike also. I think his conditioning was not at the same level as Triple OG's(gotta love that name)lol.I thought he fought his heart out and accepted the outcome with a lot of class. I liked the way both fighters handled the decision as well as the way the women embraced each other.Not at all like some of the other GF's and family members. Xena, you have to watch the 2nd fight and you will become a fan of Otis and Mahmoud.Both were in excellent condition and it was very close. I am so happy that we have this site for true fight fans and others who appreciate the sport of competition and the effort it takes to compete at the world class level. Have a great day all!!!
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Monday, October 25, 2004 - 10:15 am
They were both great fights. I was sorry Mike lost, but Otis pulled through. I am tired of him talking about God all the time. On the second fight, I thought Mohammed was very gracious about the decision. That must have been very hard.......a tie. I enjoyed seeing more of Oscar in the training. Hes so cute ;)
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Monday, October 25, 2004 - 5:19 pm
Pottedplant,thats why they call him the golden boy!All the fights he's had and still looks like that! ITA with the religious thing but a lot of serious fighters find religion early on because they recognize a power greater than themselves is needed sometimes to win. I thought Angela and Mahmoud showed a lot of class handling the decision.I also thought it was the closest fight Otis will have in the tournament. Did you all watch the 1st winner circle guy and his woman.I think they know these last few guys are the real deal and they will not control the winners circle from this point on..
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Tuesday, October 26, 2004 - 12:02 am
The Golden Boy! Thanks Carlito, I didn't know that was his name, but it fits. As you can tell, I do not follow boxing on a regular basis, but I think I might now. I agree that Mohamed & Amanda showed alot of class in their exit. It was a tough way to leave. Also agree about the first winner, he is taking it all in. I know alot of people who are religious. But they don't normally come running in to a room, shouting, its the will of God, its written.etc. I thought he is way overboard in having God guide every punch? oh well. So who do you think stands a good chance of winning? & who is out next?
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 3:00 pm
Otis is thanking God a little to much. Since he came back it's almost a part of every sentence he says. I'll give him his props though. He won twice, definitely proved himself when others thought he wasn't all that. I'm not surprised that Mohammed lost. He did his best against Otis, but I can still remember his terrified look when Gil was picking between him and the cop of who to fight. When Gil said "you're excused" I thought he would drop to his knees and kiss his feet. He just scampered off, relieved he wasn't picked. Gil took it to that cop though (dang it, forgot his name). Now that everyone else left in this show has fought and won once already it should get interesting. The one that I want to see that I think really needs to prove himself is Mince. I haven't seen much from his fight, when he really didn't want to fight because he was sick. You know Otis coming back has got to be a slap in his face. Boy, it would be nice if those two could fight again!!
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Thursday, October 28, 2004 - 3:31 pm
Thanks Pottedplant and welcome to our friendly group of fight fans Kritofer.Pottedplant it will now depend on who really wants to win now.I agree with Kritofer since all remaining have won once except Otis who has won 2 fights and lost a questionable decision to Jimmy Mince. He has to be the favored one right now.I would love to see more of Mince as Kritofer stated because i do think his win over Otis was shakey.Plus, he stated he was not at 100% when he fought Otis. It would be great for them to settle it.I also want to see someone kick PJ's BF's butt(name escapes me).It will get interesting from here on out and the best conditioned most courageous fighter will win. Who will want it more? Hmmm?
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 4:39 pm
Its on tonite.Jimmy Mince vs Rene Armejo.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 5:00 pm
Mince given the decision by 2 points.Rene goes home.I didn't agree with the decision but i also didnt like Rene's behavior after the decision.He was a poor sport and didnt handle it well. I actually had him winning 3 rounds.Happy Halloween!!!
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 8:56 pm
I am so jealous of you guys! They're not airing this show (yet) on Fox Sports net and I miss it so much! Tell me what happened to the white guy with the obnoxious wife/girlfriend. Has he made it far?
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2004 - 9:23 pm
That would be Dave Paraio (not sure of spelling), Scorpio. He won immunity this week or he would have been in the ring for sure. None of the others can stand him or his wife with their "Dave's the greatest" attitude. I'm betting he fights next week, though, based on the teaser saying "arch enemies" meet. Maybe him and Gil. Hope Gil cleans Dave's clock. I was disappointed in the decision tonight. I didn't think Jimmy Mince fought well at all and he was warned TWICE by the ref about holding. Rene was a poor sport, but it's got to be hard to be so hyped up on adrenalin and testosterone, fight a pretty good fight (it was rather sloppy all the way around tho), lose, and then be gracious. Doable, yes, but difficult. Sorry you can't see the show yet, Scorpio. I really like it. I wonder if the network (ABC?) is still going to show "The Contender" at some point. That's Sly Stallone's show with Mark Burnett that is similar to this one.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, November 01, 2004 - 1:24 am
Thanks for the info, Max! I am 99% sure they will show "The Contender". It is a Mark Burnett show after all. I don't think any of the networks want to piss him off by not airing one of his shows.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Monday, November 01, 2004 - 7:43 am
Great commentating Max and Scorpio mom.Sorry its not shown in your area scorpiomom.Keep tuning in and we'll keep you posted.I tape each episode and if you really want would be happy to provide you with the tape.Max,ITA with you on the outcome of the fight with Rene and Jimmy. It was sloppy and messy and yes a lot of holding and wrestling tool place.Primarily because Jimmy didn't want to fight mano to mano with Rene.Rene was the aggressor and i thought landed more shots than Jimmy who fought a defensive fight all night. I also want to see Gil KTFO of David once and for all.I can't stand his cocky better than you all attitude.He's only fought once and it was not a unanimous decision.I just hope when its his turn,he will be tested severely. It was so cheesy the way they gave him the exemption but Gil was lax to not raise his hand when he was done asap.I thought he actually beat David in completing the challenge but had a blonde moment that cost him the exemption.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Monday, November 01, 2004 - 7:47 am
oops.Sorry scorpiomoon. Its so hard to see clearly as one gets older.LOL..LOl.
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Monday, November 01, 2004 - 10:52 am
thanks for the updates. I set my vcr to tape this last night, as I was going out with DH. But dummy me forgot to change the clock on the VCR. LOL But, its been shown again tonight, so I have a second chance i'll pay close attention to the things you have discussed.
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 12:37 am
Ok I watched tonights repeat. ( its on fox sports bay in my area, scorpio I hope you get to see it soon) I was confused by the fight, I don't know enough about boxing to know who won, but it was sloppy & unprofessional looking. I don't mind Dave Pareja. He seems like an ok guy. I thought they way they all ganged up on him was pretty mean. Expected, I guess, but still mean. SO I hope Dave goes far (evil grin here)
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 1:13 pm
Rene was definitely the aggressor in the whole fight. He kinda reminded me of the way Sugar Ray fought, but of course Sugar ray connected more and knew how to get inside when he needed. If they had awarded the fight to Rene that would have been cool, but he certainly does need some boxing lessons. You can't just go up there and keep swinging and just "smothering" your opponent. He was definitely a scrapper, much more "street-like" fighting than ring fighting. It was a judgement call, and they didn't like his style. Really, that's not a style, unless you can really do some damage. Rene needs to hone it down a little and pick his spots. Neither guy was able to fight their fight. I don't think it was the best match up. Maybe Rene and Gil would have been a better fight.
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Merrywidow
Member
07-23-2004
| Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 1:56 pm
Well, I was finally able to track this show down on FSN after not seeing it for close to a month last night. Rene would never make it in amateur boxing and he's no where near ready to mix it up with the pros. Learn to box properly, kid. No way does he fight like either Sugar Ray's (Leonard or Robinson). Ref warned Mince twice about holding. I lost count as to how often he warned Rene about rabbit punches, punching behind the head, etc. He should have been disqualified so I was glad the decision went the way it did.
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 4:07 pm
Ok, I'll admit that mentioning Sugar Ray (Leonard) in the same sentences as these boxers is WAY off, but Leonard was definitely a swinger. And, of course, he was faster and hit harder, more acurracy, on and on... I simply mentioned it because Rene is the swingingest one in the bunch. Not really thinking, just throwing. Rene threw as many rabbit punches and throws and stuff as much as Mince was holding him. He was gettin' flabbergasted with such a flurry of punches nonstop, that's why he kept holding him. And it's what a smart "fighter" would do, especially if he's not fighting his fight, which is one of the reasons why he got the decision.
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Xena
Member
10-14-2004
| Tuesday, November 02, 2004 - 5:59 pm
I don't know what Renee's problem was but he just needs to chill out. He didn't fight like that in his last fight. He was alot better. Mince was playing it smart.He is a good fighter,but he didn't impress me too much last night.Renee' was letting his emotions get in the way. He probably would have done better if he wouldn't get so frustrated.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 11:28 am
REMINDER!!!!!! For all you fight fans who have Showtime cable,tonites fight card with Kostya Tszyu against Sharmba Mitchell promises to be a fight you do not want to miss. Fight time is 9pm EST. Also Ken Norton will be on TNGC Sunday at 6pm EST.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Sunday, November 07, 2004 - 9:15 am
If you saw the Kosta Tsyzu fight last night you know what i meant about not wanting to miss it.Too bad it only lasted 3 rounds with Tsyzu Ko of Mitchell.Kosta is back and stronger and sharper than ever. I did think Mitchell would have made a better fight of it.First power shot he felt and the look on his face said it all.
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