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Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Lurk. I think most people don't realize the extent of the horror the Gotti family has inflicted on so many families. I saw an A&E Biography on John Gotti several years ago. I remember clearly the story of his neighbor accidently hitting his (J. Gotti's) son with his vehicle and the neighbor all of a sudden "went missing". Horrible.

Also there were a few celebrities that attended one of the trials of John Gotti, in support of him. One was the guy who played the father in the T.V. show "Good Times". I can't think of his name right now but they asked him why he was at the trial and he said that he believed the government was trying to railroad John Gotti. Can you imagine sticking up for Gotti?
Also, I can't stand the way Victoria stands up for her father's past. Misunderstood? Yeah, sure. I know it's her father but please, he is a cold-blooded killer.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One other thought comes to mind:

Isn't it kind of funny how the grandchildren of John Gotti aren't even remotely considered to be next in line to take over the "family business"? And by the looks of Victoria's kids, they wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.

But if they don't continue the legacy of organized crime, then who does? Immigrants? Children of the lesser known mobsters who didn't grow up with the same wealth and privilege the Gotti grandchildren did?

Teddybear
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08-02-2001

Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched this show and loved it but after reading all this stuff... I cant believe it! Its like a real life Sopranos and here I am watching them. Its a bit creepy...

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, August 09, 2004 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Avrey, in the neighborhood where John Gotti lived, he was considered a hero. He took care of the people and the neighborhood. He was well loved.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, August 09, 2004 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well I would love him too if I wanted to stay alive

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Monday, August 09, 2004 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Pamy! No kidding!

Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ginger,
I read all about "the dapper Don" but was surprised that celebrities would go to his trial. Also from the A&E biography there were two men who owned an auto or tire shop, been and while and I can't remember. Anyways, Gotti's men showed up asking for their cut. A monthly fee the mob charges businesses to "stay in business" so to speak. This was in the seventies.

The men refused to pay it and they were both ambushed and killed upon leaving their business one night. Guess they weren't one of Gotti's neighbors. They interviewed their wives and the wives said they wish they would have paid the money. They never dreamed their husbands would end up dead.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Thursday, August 12, 2004 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not saying he was an angel. Or even a good guy, I am just saying that the people in his neighborhood, that he "takes care of" adore him.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Want to see something that'll make you cringe?

Since I no longer watch the show, I was lurking at the TWOP message board to see what people who do watch it thought of it.

Someone posted this link to The Smoking Gun. Check out the video clip of John Gotti Sr, while in prison, speaking to 10 year-old John Gotti Jr.

It's unbelievable.

Mzzlissa
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03-08-2004

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh my!

The way he talks to John Gotti Jr. is horrible. This is the same kid who recently memorialized his grandfather by getting a tattoo.

Go figure.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Even though I said I wasn't gonna watch..it HAPPENED to be on my tv as I was going to bed......

after seeing it last nite I will NEVER have it on again!!!!

I think that guy thought Vicki had called her bro and he was gonna come kill him...he turn white as a ghost...

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, August 17, 2004 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
fyi...they showed th Gotti movie this wkend and it implied friends of gotti killed the neighbor

Kathyb
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09-11-2000

Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 5:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"Friends" or fellow Mafiosos, you can be sure they got orders or at least an ok from the Don to kill this poor guy. Over a tragic accident, that the guy felt horrible about.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, August 19, 2004 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Kathy 'fellow mafiosos' hahahah

Angelsluv
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07-20-2001

Friday, August 20, 2004 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can't believe that A&E could sink this low.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Holy cow...OMG OMG!

Has anyone checked out the recent clip from TSG link I posted above?

In "Episode 2" they show John Gotti giving Victoria. Apparently, a kid was teasing one of the Gotti kids about his grandfather being a "gangster". John tells Victoria to call up the mother of the kid and tell her they'd cut her son's tongue out.

John: "Being a n--- (the "n" word) is an embarrassment. Being the grandson of Jon Gotti is an honor."

Holy cow. That guy was evil. Absolutely evil.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Victoria is no goody-two-shoes herself. The show that was most telling was when she pretended to call her brother to make Brian scared. By doing this in front of all three of her sons she is teaching them to be bullies. She had her youngest son (Frankie) do the return call so the guy would believe someone was coming to get him. She thought it was funny...her idea of "punk'd" was not funny.

Bbfaninwa
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07-26-2004

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought that it was kinda funny, taken a little far since his only crime was saying that Carmine (I think it was him) was getting drunk with Victoria... I thought that it was a little comical though. They seem a lot like most dysfunctional families... maybe a little off.

Kathyb
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09-11-2000

Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 5:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There is another installment of the Gotti tapes at Smoking Gun. This time the Don is berating Victoria for not sending him a Christmas photo of all his grandchildren. She gets up and leaves at some point and Gotti yells at his brother for bringing her. He doesn't appear to even like her.

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Monday, October 04, 2004 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
regarding the previous discussions here about the "disappearance" of John Gotti's neighbor after his son was killed... (24 years ago)

Here in NYC it's been on the news that they think they have found where the neighbor was buried.
They found what appears to be a "gangland graveyard" and are still searching for the neighbor's body - as well as other bodies.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6175114/



Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Monday, October 04, 2004 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the link, Luvmykitties.

Everything about that family disgusts me.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched this show, I think, twice, just because it was on. I couldn't stand any of them! The fact they are getting "rewarded" by being on television for having a history of being criminals is truly disgusting. I thought better of A&E.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, October 07, 2004 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I feel ashamed at having watched this show.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Saw it tonight for the first time and all I can say is boy are the boys spoiled. That's the nicest thing I can say.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, October 12, 2004 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Totally understandable, Julie.