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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, December 10, 2004 - 7:26 pm
LOL..I was thinking I missed an ep this week!!
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Sunday, December 12, 2004 - 3:50 pm
hey, whatever works! my santa cruz and california statements still stand! and as for either show: i would like to swap with someone who loves to clean house! please come to my home....
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 12:57 am
Did anyone check their Sunday TV book, if you get one? Mine has "Renovate My Family" listed at the time this show is usually on. At first I thought they were just starting a new version of the show, but now I remember we're in the middle of a two-parter. Or is it possible they changed the name of the show?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 6:29 am
I saw that also and am hoping it is a typo!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 7:04 am
Yahoo TV has it on tonight....
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 8:54 am
FOX web site has Trading Spouses on tonight.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 7:04 pm
Great show tonight.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 8:00 pm
Must have been a typo in our TV book, which isn't unusual, so that's why I try to check the daily listings to double-check things if I can. I really enjoyed tonight's show. I really was feeling a lot of "warm fuzzies" at many times through the show. The only thing I didn't like was Vicki only talking about what the Tao family had to do to improve and not mentioning anything about what she may have learned from them. I also thought her kids were no angels, at least from what they showed, although it was nice to see they felt bad they hurt Leslie's feelings and threw her the nice birthday party. I really liked Vicki's husband. He called the kids out to tell them what they had done was wrong and he seemed really senitive. I thought Vicki was a hoot at the party they had. It must have been much more interesting at the Tao/Vicki exchange since they showed us very little of Leslie's visit. The show still showed Carl as having major issues, esp. concerning allowing his sons to live their own lives, but it was very touching seeing where his issues came from regarding his brother's death when he was on the other side of the world. Still, that's no reason to suffocate your kids, esp. when they get to be Luke's age. Luke has obviously driven quite a bit even if he didn't have his driver's license since he sure could park well! I still couldn't have one of my daughters do that and be in the same car with her. I'd probably have a heart attack! LOL I also think Vicki should have designiated some of the money for the boys' education. They really don't need a house-full of furniture. I did like how Tao mom spoke up about wanting to get a bed though! She seemed to grow a lot more than we thought she would. Since they show this in two parts and it's only 2 wks, I think they could show us a whole lot more of what actually happened. All in all, I think I enjoyed this episode the most of all we've seen so far, or maybe I'm just getting mushy because it's the holidays. LOL
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Annie
Member
11-10-2004
| Monday, December 13, 2004 - 10:13 pm
I really enjoyed this episode too! I think I smiled and had tears thru the whole show. How sweet of the TN family to surprise her w/ a birthday party, and the dad calling his kids out on being hurtful to her. The R&B party was a surprise for the Tao family, they were so sure everyone would leave. It was easy to be sympathetic for Karl (Tao dad) when he said he was in Thailand when his brother died, he clearly has seperation issues because of it. I agree Watching, lots of warm-fuzzies w/ these famlies.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 1:21 am
whoops I missed part of the show. It wasnt advertised here...simply said "to be announced" Anyways, I wish we heard Vicki admit that the other family DID know their rhythm and Blues. It seemed very obvious that most of the guitarist did know that style of music. She did seem like she was judging them like backwoods hillbillies for their choice of music. I am surprised she didnt know that the two music styles have the SAME background therefore the same mix of instruments. Vicki seemed genuinely surprised that the others were so good at it. The very first edition of Banjo was an instrument based in Africa even there most people consider it a hillbilly southern instrument. Anyways, I wished that there was a counselling allotment for Dad in that $50,000. I can definitely see why he would be so afraid of being separate from the boys when he lost someone at such a young age. Those boys dont want to let their dad down...it is really sad. It will probably destroy him if his eldest son just UP and moved away. OR He would 'cut him out' of the family. That is a common thing for men to do if their sons dare to disobey them. When Vicki asked about the older boy and the dad said BUT he's only 18!! I guffawed. Some people are MARRIED and have a couple of kids at that age....and this poor kid probably has never had a date as they do everything as a family.
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Floridagirl1010
Member
07-29-2003
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 7:04 am
What happened at the end? I missed the follow up b/c my dvr cut off...darn tv Thank you!
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Kimmykm
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 8:00 am
They didn't show a follow up, not in my part of Texas, anyway.
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 8:15 am
No follow-up here either, also no preview of next show... 
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 8:24 am
They show a follow up on WifeSwap, not TS. I don't see any Trading Spouses listed in the next 2 weeks....
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 6:59 pm
Hi, Just joined the clubhouse! I went to the website that was listed in a previous post http://www.playingbyear.com/ts/ that Carl (Papa) and his sons have and they wrote their opinions after viewing the episode last night. They were livid how they said they were misrepresented especially the older son, Luke. It definitely gives you a different perspective on the show. They said that the two families still keep in touch and are close and will visit each other but they are not happy with the editing at all. What do you all think?
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, December 14, 2004 - 9:52 pm
Welcome Lauramydel! Thanks for the link. I wanted to go back and see what they had to say about this week's show. I can understand how they would be upset to be misrepresnted, but I really ended up feeling much better about the family after seeing it and saw Carl in a much better light than the week before. I understood what he was trying to explain when he got out the globe. It's too bad the editing has to twist things so much for the sake of drama. I think just seeing their two worlds combine would have been drama enough. I also commented above last night that I was disappointed that Vickie said nothing of what she may have learned from them. I'm glad they still get along despite what was aired.
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 3:07 am
I agree with you, Watching2. I felt good about both families. I got teary eyed. My husband thinks I'm crazy for watching these shows, but it does show how many different people out there and most of the time, there are good intentions. The globe scene did make sense to me as well. In fact it was very powerful, but I'm sure it was just a snippet of what happened. I also did a google search and in an article, it said that Carl took Vickie to where his brother was buried. That certainly was a powerful statement as well. A lot of deep emotions running through. Also I would be interested to see how Vickie felt regarding the editing with her. It kind of showed her being mostly judgemental but I have a feeling there was a lot more to that too. As an aside, I live in Nashville, very close to where Vickie lives in fact. This city and the surrounding ones have a lot of beautiful big homes, one of the first things I noticed when I moved here. 
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 8:52 am
Welcome Lauramydel!! (I'm a sub teaching, and just looked at the clock, gotta run!! )
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Wanda
Member
12-13-2004
| Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 10:24 am
I didn't see the first episode so my opinion is based only on the second week. I wanted to express how special I felt the Santa Cruz family were. The young men reminded me of my younger brothers: smart, sensitive, talented, hopeful. I appreciate how they respected both parents and I felt I was watching a flower unfold with the entire family. I found mom Leslie's birthday wonderful; seeing her get a haircut & manicure. Even though she was quiet, she seemed so pleased with her party and new friends. I also enjoyed Vicki's party and thought it was alot of fun and a great experience. I only wished Vicki had enjoyed the beautiful landscape and nature more. Sometimes it is best to be quiet and enjoy true natural beauty instead of always talking. She could have learned something about that. I liked Vicki's family and thought the dad was a very nice, decent man. I also gained much understanding about Carl and his pain. He may be right about everything one travels the world for is right there in their home, but his travels have made him who he is today. I feel his pain for his brother, but one has no control over the passing away of a loved one. It is a wound that cannot be healed but must be dealt with in the best manner one can. And we all deal with death in this life. My best to both families and I hope they all have a wonderful future.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 3:55 pm
Interesting link! I have one big question though. How can the boy say that he DID NOT SAY those things and they were lies....when he was sitting in a chair with his lips moving????? Now I agree that some conversations seemed choppy but when you saw the dad sitting on the couch with everyone HIS lips were forming the words "HEAVEN NO!! How can that be a lie? it happened even if they dont remember saying it. The other thing that popped into my head was IF they truly dont believe they said certain things, are they not accusing the Producers of slander and fabrications?? A fabrication means that it is a lie that is made up. I didnt see the youngster saying that Vicki's Visit was a good thing etc as SPLICED at all. It seeemed all in one sentence, unless the producers did some kind of computer blending. Either way, the accusations of falsification....not just poor editing.....is disturbing to me. I am glad both families are still friends. Music was obviously a major part of both familie's lives and thus lays the connection :-))
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 15, 2004 - 5:22 pm
Well, when he said "heavens no" it could have been in response to something completely different. I agree though. Some things that Luke claimed to be false were seen by us to come right out of his mouth and could not be meant for anything else but the reason it was stated.
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Thursday, December 16, 2004 - 4:19 pm
Luke has written more of his thoughts at their website http://www.playingbyear.com/ts/ if you all want some more insight. He has a whole lists of what he calls "lies." It seems they keep getting angrier as the days go by. There is a lot of bitterness there.
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 8:27 am
They do seem really really mad. I could have sworn, though, they said they had no coffee cuz I thought I'd not make it through one day without my coffee.
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 12:53 pm
Here's what Luke lists as lies from off his website: The Trading Spouses "Parade of Lies" Here's a list of some of the most flat-out fabrications that were created. Lies #4,#9 and #10 slander Carl's professionalism in Yoga and Taoism in particular. The other lies were fabricated to reinforce the Fox's fictional storyline that the Abbott kids are 'brain washed' and 'controlled'. This is the exact opposite of the Abbott family's relationship. Double slashes (//) indicate splice cuts, "Lie!" means words spliced together to fabricate statements we did not, and would not, make. In chronological order: 1) Carl's comment: "We don't wear shoes as a matter of principle." Reality: Part of a sarcastic comment. Lie! 2) "Do y'all have coffee?" "No." "Wait, do we have a TV?" "No." Both answers dubbed over our "yes". Lies! 3) Vickie was woken up at 5:38 am by our flute playing.Lie! 4) Carl's comment: "I tried to show // Vickie // how to do it, // I could feel that she wasn't // taking me seriously." Completely false. Lie! 5) Leslie's comment: "It's the first day, // and, I want to // introduce yoga // and show the new family." Lie! 6) Leslie woke up Hope against her wishes. Lie! 7) Leslie's comment: "Hope // seemed to not want to do it at all. // I was // upset." Lie! 8) Hope's comment: "Leslie, // she's one of them crazy types. // I ain't gonna lie, she kinda sucks." Lie! 9) Carl: "I want // Vickie // to just // *phhhhhht!*, you know, and // experience this cosmic // saucer. The virtual self! An imaginary world which we carry around in the brain!" Blatant lie, not to mention a gross distortion of our faith. (Imagine editing Christians to portray them as Satan-worshipers.) 10) Carl: "It's like that spaceship . . . you go up and then you come back down again." Lie! The next twenty minutes were not that bad, but the lies started up again in the last five minutes... 11) Leslie: "Things are not // going very well // with the Lowes. // I feel mocked." Lie! 12) Carl said "no, no" to Vickie's 'suggestion' that we go shoe shopping the next day. Lie! 13) Carl (regarding shoes and a new social life): "I'd sooner die..." Reality: "...than lose my integrity." Lie! On the second episode... 14) Luke (during the 'drive n' talk'): "What Vickie had said made me think of // things that // I never really thought about before. // Yeah, // from time to time // I think // wouldn't it be nice if things got a little more exciting?" Lies! 15) Vickie: "It was the longest // 30 minutes of my life." Well, I'm not going to put words into her mouth saying she enjoyed the jam – although I think she did (she even played the bass for a few numbers!) – but that's may be because the jam lasted for over an hour and fifteen minutes before she put on the CD. I timed it. 16) Vickie: "What do y'all do when Mama leaves the house?" Kyle: "She doesn't." Lie! 17) Carl doesn't want his kids to leave because of the death of his brother; he doesn't want to lose them too, nor expose them to the sorrows he experienced during his long world journey. Wrong! 18) Carl thinks Luke isn't old enough to be on his own. Lie! 19) Leslie: "At the beginning, I didn't get to connect with // Hope. // It was so hard . . . " Lie! 20) Carl (after hearing Vickie was going to spend the money): "No, it's not going to happen.". Lie! 21) Carl says "Heavens, no," after hearing that Vickie allotted some money for building bedrooms for Luke and Kyle. Lie! (We were planning on doing that anyway.) 22) Luke says Vickie spending the money to nudge him into more independence was "probably a good idea."Lie! 23) Carl: "The car // for Luke it's // upsetting." Lie! (Carl has been saving one for Luke and wanted him to drive it at 16) 24) Luke: "This whole experience with Vickie is // a major turning point in my life." Lie! 25) Luke: "My dad especially wants to // protect us from the outside world and keep // Kyle and I here at home." Lie! 26) Luke: "But now I // have a lot of desire to just // get out and go somewhere different. // Who knows." Lie! 27) Luke: "I guess you could say that this is the first day of the rest of my life." I said that as an expression of this being just another day!
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 12:58 pm
Here's what I want to know...if Fox does all these lies. Why haven't the other familes said as much. They've said they edit it differently then it happens but not outright lies. And why go through that drama of splicing and editing. That's a lot of money to splice phrases together. Easier to edit a scene out of context (which we already know happens) but voice splicing. why bother? Anyway, I suppose the truth is, don't go on a reality show if you don't want to be misunderstood. Hey you always have the option to say no. Even if they did try and recruit the family. Next time say no. I'm sure that $50K didn't hurt Fox's favor during decsion time.
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