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Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Bat, I have really enjoyed the show despite being pissed off at it LOL

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Would he use the wording 'hang out with' about Femia? Sounds like a guy thing. I think he would have used different wording if Femia won or not even mentioned hanging out at all.

Yet another arrow toward Dom winning.

We will never know if Femia or Tiffany would have been sent to Mexico and remained in the game had they lost Jenga. My gut says no.

Trini
Member

07-06-2004

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
quote:I also agree that Linda (that's the Boston girl, right?) lied about being poor. How many times did she interrupt tonight and say, "the ghetto, the GHETTO, I grew up in the ghetto!" (or something like that...) Geeze Louise, where else would the girls have handed out free food to homeless people? I wanted to reach through my TV and b*tch slap her!!! sorry I meant to put your name here but forgot to cut and paste

Me and you both and at the same time with the same thoughts.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Linda wins, but I hear what your saying about the 'hanging out' phrase

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, you really think Femia is the liar? Or do you think that MC decides that Linda stays because the lie indicates she is a mover and shaker or whatever the hell he is looking for?

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw the Ghetto comments differently. I am from a poor family who would have been HORRIFIED if some welldressed women tried to give us a bag with AN APPLE, some hersheys kisses and a bottle of WATER in it. That scene where they walked up to the guy and said "are you homeless?? awwwwwww" "you should call your family" really upset me.

IT WAS OFFENSIVE to people who are low income or homeless and i agree with Linda completely. Their act of compassion was done purely for effect.

Anyone remember how Mario just about got kicked off the show first episode because he handed out water to the others??? Did anyone here NOT feel it was inappropriate for the girls to steal food from the kitchen to make their bags?? After all, there are OTHER contestants in the house who need to eat.


Anyways, as for Linda, She was raised low-income...that stays with you for life. In this day and age MANY people have belongings and a place to live but STILL are cash-poor and have difficulty paying for food. It is our society. We are a creditcard society.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hear what you are saying. I think their choice to give food to the homeless was well intended. They were targeting the homeless, not the poor, that is why they went to the bus station.

I would not know that giving food to the homeless would be offensive to anyone. I go to NY frequently and often buy a slice of pizza for a homeless person. This gesture has always been VERY well received.

It is hard to anticipate who might be offended by an act of sincere kindness. I think they all did a good job.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fruit, yeah I think MC will justify whatever he does with one of his stupid business comments LOL

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sun, you said, "IT WAS OFFENSIVE to low income or homeless people..." as if it is a fact. I believe that you are only stating your opinion, based on your personal history. MY opinion is that homeless people would appreciate some help. It did appear as the clips went on, that they were targeting people who might be "working poor," rather than homeless, and I think that although they might be offended, that they certainly did not act that way.

I don't think that ANY good deed these groups could have come up with would satisfy any of us. We know that it is a game show and the good deeds were not truly voluntary, rather, were efforts by the contestants to impress Marc Cuban and win a million bucks...

Btw, I worked full-time beginning at the age of 15, even during the school year. I gave my check to my mother to buy groceries for my family because my father left us, taking many of our possessions to sell. I DO understand being "poor," but I would not have been offended by outsiders helping our family. We may not have taken the "charity" but we would not have been offended. We all have different takes on things, I guess.

Boberg
Member

10-04-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 4:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think their "acts of charity"/"good deeds" were totally a non-issue...who went home was decided by who could better attact their team mate. I think a better approach would have been, who could sell themselves as being the better competitor and having the most to offer.

Even tho it is hokey, I too was enjoying this show till the "Dominic to Cancun, hidden camera" stunt.

I will probably finish it out tho, just to see.



Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 4:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, above you said you think Linda will win. Really? Why? I am confident she is the liar and will be out leaving Femia and Dom the final two.

In the promo, at the very end, we hear Femia's voice say, "Oh my god!" That tells me Dom wins for sure, in this lame attempt to steer us away.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am still holding out hope that Dom is too obviously the winner!!! LOL the classic misdirection..even though I am probably wrong!

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Take the needle out of your arm, Pamy.

Buggles
Member

09-07-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
you guys are so funny!!.... thanks for the entertainment

i speculate that Femia screams 'Oh my God!' when MC asks Dom to marry him

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
lol!!!!! hahahhaaa

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, seriously, can you send me some of what you were taking when you posted about Linda winning?

Buggles, that has been confirmed. Someone had the closed captions on and it said. Femia: Oh my god!

You could easily tell it was not Linda's voice and accent though.



Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have no proof just guessing...kinda like picking the longshot in a horse race.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not ruling this out. It could be the biggest surprise of reality TV.

Deesandy
Member

08-12-2003

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When the girls were passing out food to the homeless, I think they should have offered to let them call someone from a cell phone. I think that would have been awesome!

Native_texan
Member

08-24-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Deesandy, if memory serves (and sometimes I think it doesn't), they did ask a man if he would like to call someone and he said no.

Working in Downtown Dallas, I see scores of homeless people every day. I am also approached by these people at least once a day for money and cigarettes. They have, for the most part, always be polite and extremely grateful for anything you give them. Regardless of their motives for being there, these girls brightened some people's day.

Lilfair
Member

07-09-2003

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to chime in on the team handing out foods to the homeless. I was appalled that Linda questioned them about the exploitive nature of doing that on TV. A big ole BS to that, Linda.

Most of the homeless have some sort of mental illness and addiction problems. Giving a small helping hand with simple human contact shouldn't be poopoo'ed.

Not too long ago there was a news report about the homeless. Several homeless men were interviewed. Well, a family member recognized her father as one of the homeless men. His family had been looking for him for years. His being shown on TV reunited the family.


Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I finally watched my tape. I hate how it seemed so staged for the twist and Dominic to stay. I doubt that would have happened had it been Spencer. I did like that Dominic was shown as a very genially guy with Mark's "tests". He is a bit of an airhead though. He'd probably blow thru the after tax money in short time living like the rockstar he seems to think he is.

Linda is one of the most irritating people to ever grace the small screen imo. I gather it is her that tells the big lie, she seemed pretty shocked when Mark announced the family visit. At this point I hope Femia wins, she seems like she has her head on straight and has plans for the funds.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

Here in Canada the estimates are that about 75% of street people have some form of mental illness. GOOD POINT!

However, in many cases the psychosis is brought on AFTER they are homeless due to stress, poor nutrition, poor sleep and resulting depression. Yes, they are plenty of substance abusers as well.

I wish we could get everyone off the streets but many dont want off....they want freedom to do what they want. Which is why beds in shelters and halfway houses can be left empty.
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<ND> IT IS offensive to offer a homeless person a BOTTLE OF WATER and an apple, when you are standing there in your designer clothes and $100 shoes. Let me clarify what I meant previously.

It is HOW they approached people and HOW they talked to them(what they said) which offended me the most. I gave the quotes in the previous post.

I am from a low income area and know people who ranaway trying to make it on their own at 15. I have more experience in how people think in this area <ND>

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Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
o.k., next time I am wearing designer clothing and $100 shoes, I will walk by a homeless person and hold on tightly to my BOTTLE OF WATER and apple so I don't offend them. Sorry, but that just seems ridiculous to me. Oprah Winfrey wears significantly more expensive clothing than that, and I don't think her generosity to the less fortunate is generally seen by the public as offensive.

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Potted_plant
Member

08-29-2001

Saturday, October 23, 2004 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<nd - Removed comments only because the related comments have since been removed from the thread.>

As far as the homeless are concerned. Well, I think if you give them food or change, they don't care what you are wearing. i voluntered a few times at a soup kitchen in downtown San Francisco, & they were happy to get food. Period.