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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 1:08 pm
Yeah,for real. I can say that I don't know how he can say that Leslie didn't wake Hope up against her wishes. It was pretty clear she dragged her out of bed,and forced her to do yoga.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 10:41 pm
I agree Hippy. And I may be wrong but #26- wasn't that shown to come right out of his mouth in his little one on one with the camera? And #27- when have any of us ever heard that expression used in such a blase manner? I don't know. I believe alot of what he says but I think he just wants to backtrack a little to save some hurt feelings. JMO, though.
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Friday, December 17, 2004 - 11:24 pm
Makes you wonder huh? I for sure thought the two boys were brainwashed but now they say it's the way they were edited. Could be, after watching the editing on BB for several years I know a lot of things are taken out of context for a bit of drama. At any rate, I still enjoy watching Trading Spouses and other reality programs. Mssilhouette speaks the truth...do not go on a reality show if you do not want to be misunderstood.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 3:13 am
Dad is so angry he hasnt even WATCHED the episode...Son knows he must appease his father so Son is making trouble....as he is probably expected to. There were a few choppy scenes that I agree were so chopped up and edited that it was hard to follow what was being talked about. BUT, I make my decision based on how the boys were CONSTANTLY checking with their dad by eye contact before every interaction with Vicki. Vicki also had a "you've got to be kidding!!" look quite a few times on her face. That wasnt faked LOL The only thing I have to finish with is....this show was filmed quite awhile ago. Funny how the kid has PERFECT recall of each conversation word for word. WOW, impressive but Extremely unlikely that past recall is accurate. It is too bad that the family is upset but the father really seemed like he had a dazed look in his eye many times and this defensive posturing of his boys reminds me of another similar situation. Often, When a parent first starts getting alzheimers and kind of confused, not as clear as they used to be...the family will go into complete denial and 'not notice' that the parent is not quite right anymore. They will be very defensive...and argue that the parent is just tired, or needs a new hearing aide or something. They blame the forgetfulness on physical things and consider it all just a misunderstanding. These accusations of lies and misunderstandings seem like a family who is trying to coverup the confusion of their lives and reclaim their lost dignity. However, in my opinion, only acceptance of Dad's behaviour will lead to any form of family healing. I think Dad was a little lost and confused when the mom was traded. Just a theory.}
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 1:39 pm
I guess I didn't erase the episode so I watched the end again. I was wrong- #26 was only heard, not shown to be said so it could have been edited. The only thing they showed him to say was #27.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Saturday, December 18, 2004 - 3:22 pm
If there was THAT much splicing of the voices, wouldn't we, the average viewer, have noticed changes in the voice tones (as we can when Donald does voice overs in the boardroom)? If all of that was truly spliced together then the editors deserve an Oscar because it sounded seamless to me.
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 9:57 am
For those still interested in the topic. The Tanners, Papa Carl and family, issued this statement on the website. We've been told that, under the Agreement we have signed with the television companies involved, we are prohibited from saying anything, to any one, at any time, about any of our experiences we had vis-a-vis the program Trading Spouses. However, we believe (naively probably) that under the U.S. Constitution's First Amendment we have an inalienable right to set the record straight about our families true reality. Among the falsehoods told was the libelous portrayal of the religion we profess and the church to which we belong. As this is a most serious breech of civil rights, we've moved all material related to our participation in the show to the church web site. Here, we hope the best defense against the libelous portrayal of our church and religion can be fought without the censorship of a legal injunction to keep silent.
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:00 am
Sorry, I meant the Abbotts. Not sure why I said Tanner. 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:45 am
Thx for the info Laura!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 10:58 am
which family were they again??
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, December 31, 2004 - 11:09 am
Very interesting, Laura--thanks for the update.
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Lauramydel
Member
12-14-2004
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 4:11 am
They were the Taoists, barefooted, free-spirited family with Carl, Leslie, and their two sons from California.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 4:01 pm
I dont meant to be mean but did they really think they could sign a contract and then be able to go off on public tangents on how the show made everything up? I can see being naive about the actual show. I wouldn't necessarily think a reality show would splice sound bites together to create different sentences all together but the contract signing? That is beyond naive to think they are above a legal document. Didn't they ever hear the term "signing away your life?" Don't get me wrong, I would be upset if I were them but I would also know i was duped, fair and square. I am sure that contract covers all possible bases of what they do to these families.
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 10:39 pm
when is this show supposed to return?
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 12:16 pm
TIVO shows it on Monday night the 17th.
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:33 am
Anyone catch this episode? Very interesting. Mrs. Clean mom seems to have some real issues. Everything in her mind is "filthy". I feel real sorry for her family. I did think the dog poop on the floor was a bit over the top. Told my kids I bet the producers of the show threw the poop on the carpet just before Mrs. Clean Mom got there just to see her reaction! I think there was some real creative editing going on to put the messiest spin possible on the house.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 9:52 am
Hi Lori, I watched it last night too. I haven't watched the last 20 minutes yet but will later tonight. You're right about Mrs. Clean, she definitely has some 'control' issues. She wouldn't even let the Grandma help clean as she wanted to 'make sure the job was done well' so she had to do it herself. Boy is her husband and children ever 'trained' well eh? I wish my house was that clean but I don't have time to vacuum 5x a day!! I couldn't believe just before she left to go to the other house how she felt the need to vacuum even though her ride had arrived outside. Hubby said,"If it'll make you feel better, go for it." Now that's 'obsessive complusive' if I've ever seen it! lol Ya, the dog poo was over the top. That was pretty gross.The flys and ants shots were pretty gross too but they kept using the same shots of the ants and flys. And what was with Clean Mom's kids the way they were staring at the other Mom and not talking to her when she arrived. I mean they were looking at her very judgementally, not like a 'curiousity' or 'shy' stare. Just my opinion though.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:02 am
I agree with you both. I watched it and am always amazed to witness who grows from the experience and who does not. Be interesting to see if we witness 'Clean Mom' loosening the reins a bit. From the previews, it looks as if 'Clean Mom's' dh "grows some."
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:12 am
Ahhh another OCD mommy? Where do they get these people? Are they advertising at psychiatrist offices? Cleaning moms kids were very rude from what we saw. Often the children didn’t answer questions verbally, only a nod or shake of the head. And when the kids did answer verbally it was a one word answer. I say that is rude. Perhaps cleaning mom spends all her time teaching her kids to clean and never worried about teaching social skills. Cleaning mom showed very rude judgment (in front of her children) when she decided to keep the cab waiting in order to get one more vacuum jaunt in. Any clue as to why the phobia of the south? That’s a new one on me. Surely these people don’t buy into any negative stereotypes. This morning when I heard the weather report I chuckled when I heard it was –50 degrees in Minnesota. Poor kids when it snows they need to take their boots off before they even enter the house. Ahhhh, silly entertainment. Thank you FOX!
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Conejo
Member
08-23-2002
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:33 am
I also thought her 'phobia' of the south was odd. She said she never wanted to visit the south especially Tennessee. Why Tennessee? Could it be that she got it on with some 'hillbilly' when she was young and that's how she wound up pregnant as a teenager? What do you think the families need with the $50,000.00? I think they could both use another bathroom - it looked like both families only had one.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:35 am
The phobia of the south isn't something that was new to me. I think the cleaning mom probably has something that happened in her past, like when she mentioned she was a teenage mom, that's probably making her the way she is with the obsessive cleaning. Hopefully whatever issue is at work will come out.
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 10:54 am
Definitely OCD. I too actually thought her reaction about Tennessee stemmed from her teen pregnancy...thought maybe the dad was from Tennessee. Who knows...she probably does believe the whole south is "filthy"...look at her reaction to the aquarium.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:37 am
All you have to do is recall what OCD mom's daughter said about what she thought the TN mom would be like, (redneck, dirty, smelly, straw in mouth, etc). OCD mom has poisoned her children's mind with negative stereotypes about Southerners.
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Mizinvanccouver
Member
02-22-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:53 am
YEs, I noticed that too Beachcomber which is why I mentioned how the children were staring at her rudely like she was from Mars or something when she first arrived. I tend to agree with those who mentioned her past, they way she teared up when she read where she was going....well she's very emotional about it. When her husband jokes with her she can't even laugh but gets angry instead. It sure has made me lighten up that's for sure. I hope she is a happier person than what is being shown on the show.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 12:02 pm
Everything about Clean Mom's behavior was totally over the top. Her reaction to going to Chattanooga was bizarre. Iffin I remember correctly, she specifically said she didn't want to go to Chattanooga. Don't even get me started on her reaction that the Aquarium was filthy. . I suspect her children don't go anywhere outside the home because she considers everything dirty. And what about her reaction to the carousel???? This woman doesn't suffer only from OCD. She needs help... quickly.
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