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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 11:26 am
Should we start guessing who stays out and who goes back? I think the most likely to stay English is Miriam, the most likely to go back Ruth. I think right now the others could go either way. At first I thought Moses was definately going back, now I'm not so sure. I SO want to know what led them to this choice, and know more about what they are thinking. Why can't the producers see how much more interesting that is than any tension with those spoiled brats who I hope never to see again! And I agree Lil, there are all sorts of opportunities. Just look at that guy who I linked a bunch of you to who makes all the Amish products. He was raised Amish, left (though clearly stayed in the area) and created a thriving business. Plus they do have a work ethic and decency that is sadly so hard to find. I think with some proper guidence and maybe some education they could do great. They also need to get out of LA IMHO. But that never seeing your family again part really is the fly in the ointment. That has got to be SOOOO hard. Of course it's probably why they have that rule. I'd walk on broken glass to spend time with my Mom. Sigh.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:02 pm
YaY for once my memory was right...it IS 10 episodes (and with any luck, since it's such a hit maybe they will add some extra ones like follows up HINT HINT) or a reunion show. Here's a site I had never (well about this show) seen with some info FYI http://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/ShowMainServlet/showid-28781/Amish_in_the_City/
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 12:20 pm
Not1worry, ITA about those city kids. They are so mean-spirited and selfish, I hope they were raised better than that. Why aren't they accepting of people from different religions/cultures? Wouldn't the city kids be screaming bigotry and ignorance if someone was treating them this way? What hypocrites! I am so impressed by the Amish work ethic and how sweet Ruth was to pitch in and help when she didn't have to. Do Amish people smoke? Or is that a habit that Ruth and Miriam picked up when they went English? I love what a peacemaker that Mose is, God bless him for trying over and over with those *bleeping* city kids!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 1:17 pm
I’m betting most if not all will go back…eventually. Is there a time limit for Rumsprigna? These kids need a break from the cameras and the fake reality they’ve been living before they can make a choice. Since it’s a black and white decision and there doesn’t seem to be any gray areas these kids need to be debriefed after the show before they can make this choice. And you know what…they’ve seen a lot already…sometimes once IS enough. I’m hoping these kids aren’t pressured in any way and I hope that they realize that what they’ve been living is not reality.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:05 pm
Hah, I was thinking the same thing!! In the same respect these arent the "norm" for Amish either, as we often post on (like smoking, piercings etc) I still think some of the Amish families I've known in IN there can be a fine line, esp in the Menonite community! Mose is definately a puzzle, but I think he would be happiest with an Amish wife!! I do love his accent tho!! I think the producers did a great job picking the Amish, and of course they were looking for conflict, I just kept LOL at how (darn what's her name!!) she kept petting that fish to death.... It is interesting that she didnt get upset at them eating what they caught - liked that they didnt twist that idea around. But did they all eat just one fish?! Where did the hamburger meat come from? How did they keep it? (ooops it is reality TV!! *g)
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:16 pm
Reader, why do you think Mose would be happiest with an Amish wife? I'm not disputing the thought just curious as to why you think so. I haven't given it any thought, though. Mose to me seems like he'd be my #1 pick to stay outside the Amish community. And I’m getting the feeling he’d be an excellent husband and father. The reason I think he may be the only one to stay out is...first he's a bit older and secondly I think he's the one without the rose colored glasses. I don't think anything is fooling him in regards to the genuineness of English life. On a side note…anyone know if the Amish stay on top of the English news or for that matter worldwide news?
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:39 pm
Lol sorry lilfair, I was just thinking of how hard it is for him to even realize that he doesnt pick up after himself - and you're right he would acclimate quite nicely in any situation!! Cant wait to see what he made for 'each' person...
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:46 pm
LiL every time I went to PA I saw that the Amish interacted quite well and frequently with all the English. So I would guess they are up on the big things. But not having a TV I'm sure they are not as on top of things as we are. There is an Amish newspaper, but I can't recall if there are any news stories in there. And if what I read on another board when I websearched this is true, Miriam has been living out for 8 years and tends bar. No clue if that is true or not. And since she and Randy dated, we still don't know how or where since they are from different Amish areas. I certainly could see where ex-Amish would make for a good couple, as they would understand things in a way others might not, along with shared upbrings, values, etc. I was also quite proud by how the Amish guys have been helping the girls. That is SO atypical, and I think it says a lot to how they have moved beyond some traditional Amish ways. (Amish women generally serve the man, and if some of what I've read is true they can be quite domineering within their families). Btw, when you mentioned accents Reader know what I noticed? When Jonas talks regularly with the whole group, he only has a tiny accent. But when he's with just the Amish kids it's MUCH stronger. No real point...just an observation.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 2:47 pm
Reader...hope he made an egg for Ariel 
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:08 pm
Adopt an Amish today 
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 4:54 pm
My brothers were slobs. My traditional German mother waited on my brothers hand ahd foot. They never washed a dish or did laundry. Both their wives did a great job re-training. I bet Moses could be re trained to pick up after himeself. Of course the girls in my family had to pick up all the slack and mess left by the brothers. LOL it is a small word afterall.
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 5:39 pm
Did anyone else crack up when Ruth, Mose, and Jonas were talking about them becoming the "cool" group and Jonas jokingly asked if any of them had experience with being the "in" group. I really like the Amish group. I have noticed they don't really spend much time on Randy though. Was nice to see him stand up for himself a bit. I think it would drive the city kids nuts if the Amish group started speaking Pennsylvania Dutch. The city kids would be able to pick up a few words here and there, but not really knowing what was being said about them would have the group freaking out a bit. Kevon and Nick seem to be the best of the city group - the girls make me cringe. What terrible behavior!
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 6:30 pm
Hee hee... I would love that if the Amish started speak Penn Dutch, Hereiam. What a great idea. You know Reese would have a fit. If Miriam has been out for 8 years, I think her decision is pretty much made. I'd like to know if the Amish smoke also. Anyone? I spent a month in rural Indiana at Crane Naval Weapons Depot. It was beyond boring, as we'd only spend 2-3 hours in the morning working and then had the rest of the day to stare at the trees. But we did get out each night and eat at some awesome Amish restaurant. My gosh, that was good stuff!!
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Halfunit
Member
09-02-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 7:17 pm
They grow it, but aren't supposed to smoke it. Link Here is a really great site where you can read all about the Amish: Amish Country News.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, August 26, 2004 - 9:07 pm
Hereiam...I not only laughed...I watched it about 2 more times. I thought it was both sweet and funny. I don't want this show to ever end! (I would like to boot the city kids out though!). And I think the reason they don't spend much time on Randy is beyond his big outburst he never seems to say anything or even hang out with the Amish. Remember when they each went to lunch with one from "the other side" and he and Whitney just sat there in silence. I still can't see how Miriam went out with him for so long. He sure is good looking, but you can only look at someone for so long! lol
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Friday, August 27, 2004 - 9:09 am
I am really enjoying this show and find myself liking all of the Amish group (but don't know much about Randy). I think my favorites are Mose, truly an old soul as said above and Jonas. Jonas seems very sweet plus has a good sense of humor. I am hoping that next week the Amish and maybe they could include Kevon, kick some city kids butt. Not in the literal way of course but get over and move on and play some mind games on them. I feel that Mose is learning a valuable lesson. He said that when someone doesn't like him that he works hard to earn their respect. I think he is learning that some peoples' respect is not worth earning. I hope when the city group watch this they can learn something too... but I won't hold my breath.
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Friday, August 27, 2004 - 2:43 pm
I can see the city kids as remembering their few months with Amish raised kids as worth a laugh, and regret later the way they acted on TV.. Mose is indeed a self aware man and knows exactly what he needs and wants in life. He has some of the deepest family roots and yearns to get back to his life. He's not someone I'd think would be easily blinded by flashes in the pan.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, August 29, 2004 - 2:26 pm
Hey guys, I was doing some web searching and found a REALLY interesting board that had links to tons are articles I hadn't seen, and a lot of info. It doesn't answer all my questions but did some of them. Also they have a couple ex-Amish posters (including one that knows Jonas). Anyway thought you guys might enjoy reading it, and especially some of the links to those stories. The addy is http://www.fansofrealitytv.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=150. Hope you enjoy it as much as I did! Funny I read just about every Amish thread....not sure I clicked on any English one LOL. ETA: I was so glad when that ex-Amish girl copied over the article (she had to retype it so that was a super nice gesture) from The Budget...that Amish newspaper I had referred to, but couldn't remember the name of. Cause not only was it interesting, but it had bugged the heck out of me that I couldn't remember the name of that paper!
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 4:58 pm
Starting in a few minutes.... Anybody else going to be watching?
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:08 pm
Kevon lied about being half Persian. His stepdad is the one that's Persian.
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:13 pm
Now I'm not sure if he lied about being Persian or not.....LOL But Nick's right, either way he lied. But I don't care. I like Kevon's attitude better than Nick. Nick was being an ass tonight.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:20 pm
HL, Kevan is half Persian, but Megan said he always had to have the last word, so it must be because he had Persian in him and she said...all Persian men didn't respect women, etc. and they always had to have the last word. So Kevan mentions if she had said something like that to a black or Mexican, it would be racist and he felt it was racist. Basically everyone snubbed him on that comment and ignored him. Then he told Megan he wasn't Persian just to call her bluff on "why he must always have the last word." Of course the guy from NY (forgot name) has to go to pool and confirm Kevan is NOT Persian...and Kevan lets him think so. I think he was testing him. I'm LOVING this show right now. All the houseguests are attacking Kevan and Mose said "If any of you have a problem with Kevan, you have a problem with me." WOO HOO..I love Mose. This is yet another case of shallow, selfish people finding someone to pick on. I like Kevan very much; he has been respectful to the Amish and seems like a very nice guy. However, if you have independant thoughts in these houses, the other houseguests go into attack mode.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:21 pm
I thought Kevan's bio father was Iraqian. He told Nick it was his step-father to see if Nick would run & tell the others,which he did. At least that's my understanding. Godspeed to Jonas 
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:27 pm
Heriam stated: "Did anyone else crack up when Ruth, Mose, and Jonas were talking about them becoming the "cool" group and Jonas jokingly asked if any of them had experience with being the "in" group." ROFL, that was so funny. I didn't think he was kidding. He wanted to beat the others at their own game and then he says..."Oh, how do we be cool." This so is so funny because of their innocent comments and their wonderfully positive attitudes.
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Hamsterlady
Member
07-03-2003
| Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 5:31 pm
Thanks for the clarification Cricket. I thought that maybe he was half Persian but now I got it. Nick doesn't have to be such an ass to Kevan while he's trying to talk to him. It ticked me off that Reese(sp?) was sitting back there just listening to them instead of letting them talk it out on their own. ETA - Oh and if that was my face and Whitney was to wave that finger one more time in my face I'd have to break it off and stick it somewhere she wouldn't enjoy.
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