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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Monday, July 26, 2004 - 3:57 pm
New show to start next week, takes you inside Victoria Gotti's home (daughter of John Gotti. Her 3 teenaged boys are part of the show. This should be a hoot. I know these kind of people. This will be good.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 12:54 pm
I'm with ya, Ginger. I will be glued to my TV watching this.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 5:22 pm
when is this on? dh wants to check it out
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 10:12 pm
This show starts tomorrow (Monday) night. I saw previews for it and I am really looking forward to this one.
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Monkeyboy
Member
05-27-2001
| Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 11:04 pm
What network is this on?
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Sunday, August 01, 2004 - 11:55 pm
It's on A&E.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 8:06 am
OMG this just reminded me of my brush with the Gotti's...forget which one but was one of the ones in the paper every day. Lunatics had destroyed our family home and my Mom & Aunt were temporarily staying in a hotel. Well home was where ever my Mom was, so I went "home" to visit. (remember I live in New England...which didn't get much Gotti coverage). So one night there was a band in the lounge that sounded good so we all went in for a little bit. So we are sitting there talking and this impecably dressed kinda older man came over and asked me to dance. I wasn't sure what to do, cause I generally didn't go clubbing with my Mom and Aunt and sure didn't look at this hotel lounge that way lolol. Plus the dance floor was pretty empty. And he wasn't really my type. So I politely said something like "thanks so much, but I'm visiting my family, maybe some other time." I look over to see my Mom white as a sheet. While I didn't think she'd love seeing someone try to pick me up, I didn't think it would cause her to faint either . I said WHAT? and she just kept watching this guy walk away. And she was also trying to see descreetly see who he was with (Mom usually paid no attn to these things). Finally, she whispered do you know who that was? (Mom didn't usually whisper either lol). Clearly I didn't and she told me and said when I said family she almost died. I wasn't sure whether to laugh hysterically or go find an all night bullet proof vest shop LOL. Anyway hadn't heard of this show. Didn't really want to get addicted to another one (I keep trying to have some life here lol) but if it sounds that good maybe I'll watch or toss in a tape.
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Tk4x5
Member
07-10-2004
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 3:24 pm
Hmmm ... this should be an interesting program. IIRC Victoria Gotti has always maintained her dad was just a "regular" guy who got caught up in a web of stereotyping, government conspiracy, etc. I'm curious to see how this perspective is maintained program when the advertising for it seems to bill it as a real life "Soprano's."
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 3:40 pm
What is "IIRC"? Is this show supposed to be like The Osbournes?
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 5:16 pm
The impression I get from reading articles and reviews of this show is that this family LOVES everything that comes with having the name Gotti. But, as Tk4x5 said, Victoria always said her dad was a regular guy. If he was such a regular guy why are they still, two years after his death, shamelessly using the family name to get whatever they want because they know how intimidated people are? Also... I know Victoria has written novels and writes a column for Star, but I don't think she's made enough money on her own to fund the lifestyle they have. Obviously, her father left money behind for the family. There's something really, really disturbing about watching people flaunt their wealth when we all know full well people have been murdered to get that wealth. This should be very, very interesting.
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Tk4x5
Member
07-10-2004
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 6:11 pm
Julieboo, IIRC = If I Recall Correctly
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 7:39 pm
I have mixed feelings about this show. I like Victoria's hair. The house is nice. And, honestly, I respect Victoria for being so straightforward and not pulling any punches. It sounds like she puts up with a lot of crap and she sure isn't a doormat. But... I HATE that stupid animated opening to show. Her sons are unbelievably unlikable. There is spoiled and then there is obnoxious and horrid. They are the latter. I can't even imagine what it would be like to be in their presence. Ugh. Cringe. Cringe. Cringe. So much of this seemed staged. And Victoria's voiceovers were lame. I have some respect for Victoria, but I don't any of these people likable in the least. Did anyone see the previews for the Bounty Hunter reality show? Man, A&E is starting scrape the bottom of the barrel.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, August 02, 2004 - 7:46 pm
Ok I watched a little...they totally impress me as rude, callous, low people used to having respect not by earning it but because of their name. Then again is that respect or fear? Hmmmm. True they live in pretty window dressing that comes with money. Knowing it's blood money made even the pretty things look ugly to me. I'm done with this show.
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Sia
Member
03-11-2002
| Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - 12:46 am
Watched tonight's episode with my husband, and I was able to predict how she'd treat her blind date before they even walked out the door of her mansion. I knew she wouldn't allow herself to be polite to him or to "like" him in the least--because, after all, he was BALD!! I found nothing inappropriate or critical in Ed's question to Victoria. When he asked her if anyone else at her house was spoiled, she could have said, "Oh, I have a pet (cat/dog) who's spoiled rotten" and totally avoided taking the question so personally. I mean, the gracious thing for her to say would have been, "Well, to be honest, having lived for many years able to have any little wish I've had granted, yes, I'd have to say I'm a little spoiled. I'm used to getting what I want, and I'm used to having my way." The way she turned on the man was pretty vicious, in my opinion. I think he was trying to keep the conversation light and humorous, and she totally misread his intentions. It was a clever way for him to test Victoria's basic honesty, however, by asking her that question. She refused to answer and instead just turned on him angrily and then walked out on him. Again, she would have found fault if the guy had been FABIO, so Ed shouldn't feel bad that he was rejected by her. Poor Ed.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - 9:58 am
Sia: I agree. Victoria has such a chip on her shoulder that you could say, "Looks like it's going to rain," and she'd freak out and take it personally and think that statement was an insult to her family.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - 10:57 am
Scorpio that's so funny...I thought that animated intro was the best part of the show...but I LOVE stuff like that (like from Rosie O'Donnell and The Nanny). LOLOL ah different tastes. And totally agree with you Sia. But like Scorpio said, so much seemed staged and I think her "role" is to play spoiled witch (feel fee to subsitute a different first letter of that word in your minds lol), and of course be controversial.
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Tuesday, August 03, 2004 - 3:47 pm
Is that house paid for with her father's money or her husband's? She said the house was filled with the ghost of her marriage, but I guess it doesn't matter...her ex is doing time, too. Her kids annoyed me to no end. Very little respect shown. I'd have to drop-kick them...frequently!
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Kathyb
Member
09-11-2000
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 4:58 am
I watched the first 2 episodes and cringed through most of them. It's obvious why her kids are so spoiled - there's no consistency there. After fighting that golf cart (or whatever it was)so fiercely, she totally gives in - even AFTER he took it in the road which he was expressly forbidden to do. I also didn't like the way she treated the pool repairman. There was a misunderstanding about the extent of the work she wanted done and she dismisses the whole thing as the man trying to rip her off. Another thing: although she referenced her dead brother several times, people might not know that the brother shot out of the driveway on his bike in front of a neighbor, who hit him, causing his death. The poor man apologized profusely to the Gotti's but they didn't accept it and he decided to sell his house and move. A couple of days before the move, he disappeared and has never been heard from since. These are NOT nice people.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 12:29 pm
Kathy: Oh my God. Are you serious? (Re: the neighbor.) Hmm. I don't think I'll be watching this show anymore.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, August 04, 2004 - 10:47 pm
Oh geez. Check this out: NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - A&E has ordered five more episodes of reality series "Growing Up Gotti" after its Monday episode delivered the strongest series premiere ever -- 3.2 million viewers -- on the cable network. A&E already has ordered 20 half-hours of the series, which follows the daughter and grandsons of late mob kingpin John Gotti.
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Mzzlissa
Member
03-08-2004
| Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 3:41 pm
It is true...Court TV's Crime Library has a lengthy profile on John Gotti and describes this particular incident. He also faced quite a bit of harassment before the disappearance. Did anyone else notice she asked the pool repairman "would you quote my brother John this price?" I could be wrong, but it came across as a little threatening. John Gotti, Jr. supposedly took over the Gambino crime family after his father was sentenced to life in prison in 1992.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 4:04 pm
What was her dad sentenced for?? Did he die serving time? Is her DH still in jail?? If so how does he call her and send her flowers? What is/was he is for? Her kids are horrible! but if push come to shove I bet those boys would be there for her
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 6:53 pm
Pamy: I do believe Victoria's husband is in prison. Check this out: Carmine Agnello, Victoria Gotti's ex husband, plea bargained in 2001 for racketeering, extortion, arson, vehicle identification obliteration, and tax fraud. He was sentenced to 9 years in prison, he forfeited $10 million to the United States, he had to pay $950,000 in restitution to his victims, and he had to pay $150,000 in back taxes to the IRS. It wouldn't take a lot of effort to call a florist or call Victoria from prison. He probably has other "friends" helping him get things done while in prison. Re: John Gotti: Yes, he died while in prison. John Gotti was convicted of for 14 counts of murder, conspiracy to commit murder, loansharking, racketeering, obstruction of justice, illegal gambling, and tax evasion. And, just to add to the mix, looks like John Gotti Jr will be in prison for awhile. Here's part of an article published July 22, 2004: Federal prosecutors charged the son of the late Gambino boss John Gotti with multiple crimes including attempting to kill Curtis Sliwa, the outspoken founder of the Guardian Angels crime-fighting group, in 1992. John A. Gotti, also known as "Junior," is scheduled to be released from prison in September after serving a 1999 sentence for racketeering. In the federal indictment unsealed Thursday, he was charged along with three other alleged members or associates of the Gambino organized crime family. Charges against the four include murder, attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder, kidnapping and conspiracy to commit kidnapping, conspiracy to commit securities fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, extortion and illegal gambling. If convicted, the 40-year-old Gotti could face 130 years in prison. While I was doing research to get the above info, I found a Web page devoted to the death Mzzlissa referred to. Here's the link. According to that Web site, Victoria's mom (also named Victoria) beat the neighbor with a metal baseball bat. Wow. I am so totally not watching this show ever again.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, August 05, 2004 - 7:50 pm
Thx Scorpio! Wow! let's make a tv show and glorify a murdering dishonest family..yeah! that will be great!
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, August 06, 2004 - 9:13 am
Personally I think A&E made a mistake ordering more shows before seeing how ratings are next week. I tuned in for some to check it out, but I won't be around in the future. Wonder how many more like me? Then again, people watched Anna Nicole, so who knows LOL. Now off to check out that link.
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