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Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting interview....and I do understand how strategic editing can make an otherwise normal woman come across as "Omarosa-ish".....but one thing did cross my mind as I read the article: If it was just the editing, why did all the other women seem to take a dislike to her? We know that they weren't swayed by editing because they hadn't seen the footage. Their opinions would seem to be based on their actual day to day interaction with her.

I do understand that strategic editing could also account for how the other women came across....making it appear that they disliked Rachel more than they actually did. But then again.....they did all give Rachel the money-medal in that ceremony, didn't they? I would think that their collective opinion that she was in it for cash rather than true love is not the most lovable trait that they could assign to her.....and that collective opinion would be a reflection of their true feelings about her.....not just editing.

Of course, I guess we'll never know....unless maybe she makes it to the very end after having totally convinced the other women, the producers, Preston, and the viewers that she actually fell in love with Preston...and then at the last minute wind up opting for the ($1) check instead! :-)

Peeper
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06-14-2004

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to agree that I like Rachel more after this episode and Andrea less.

The way Rachel wrinkles her nose and the exaggerated facial expression, remind me of Alicia Silverstone from the movie Clueless.

Sanfranjoshfan
Member

09-17-2000

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's true, Peeper....she does have a little Alicia type spark, but I still see the vampire "Darla" when Rachel smiles.....and Andrea kinda reminds me of Wynonna Judd.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The others saying she's in it for the money doesn't mean anyone dislikes her. She's was quite honest to the cameras that if she doesn't hit it off with the 'guy' she'll go for the money. (This was after learning about the money and before meeting the 'guy'.) Frankly, if I said that, I wouldn't be in the least offended that the others figured it out and gave me all the money coins as well. At this point, this show is just a game.

Nearly everyone of them has stated some version of "If I happen to find true love, it's all good, but in the mean time I'll think about the money". Even Preston. Although he's willinglly dumped quite a few 'million' women in favor of Rachel and PJ - both of whom he seems to like.

There's nothing offensive or mean or an indication of dislike by giving a fellow contestant the money coin. Also, after the first few, there was a social pressure to 'pile on' Rachel rather than single anyone else out. (Sorta a keep 'picking on the one kid'.) There was NO reason to stir up anything with anyone else. All the woman there are the 'no confrontation' types except Andrea. Witness their desperate attempt at peace making with Rachel of Andrea made her snit at the dinner table. They all wanted to avoid any hard feelings with anyone else.

Clearly, Rachel took being singled out with the $$ coins well. She seems to be taking the whole game with a sense of humor, which is fun to watch.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Quite possible, Gina - but I doubt if any of them would prefer being thought of as being the most likely gold digger. The idea that she is perceived by all the rest as being in it for the money (over love) implies that the women think the feelings being expressed to Preston are more likely fake than real. (None of them act as if they are in it for the money when they are interacting with Preston, so either they are all in it for love or some - or all - of them are faking their feelings.) Being thought of as being emotionally manipulative for money just seems to me to be more evidence of dislike than being seen as being flirtatious because of real feelings.

I saw no evidence that anyone selected Rachel because of peer pressure.....it could have just as easily been because they all think she is mostly in it for the money.

Anyhow, it's a fun show so far....

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sanfran.. good point.. just as in all reality shows when a whole group dislikes someone there is usually a reason and it isn't editing :-) and usually not jealousy as some of the targets claim..

However reality shows have been around long enough that I suspect many of the contestants go into the shows banking on the fact that if they stand out in some way (evil or hated will do) that they get more air time during and after the show, so I am guessing that some of them go in with the idea that they should play a role and I bet they are encouraged to do this by the producers.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Monday, June 28, 2004 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, I can't believe how little discussion there has been on this thread. Saving up for BB, Huh:-)

I finally figured out who Rachael reminds me of. At first I was going to say a younger Sybil Shepard, but that just didn't feel exactly right, then it came to me. She looks like Greenley Smythe,(All My Children) AKA Rebecca Budding in real life. Maybe more Rebecca with just a touch of Sybil.

Tonight I didn't like that he got rid of the Rebekih (sp) on the show. She is a darling girl.

Between PJ and Rachael, I don't like either of them very much. We know from the burned checks tonight that one of them has a check for a dollar and one for a million dollars.

Preston had already sent the original 4 girls who had a million home, so obviously he's not interested in the money.

Anyway, my feeling is that I just don't care who he chooses now. Didn't hate or love the show, it was ok.

Kimmykm
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed the show, which one did he let go? Was it the little dark haired girl? I never knew her name.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He got rid of both Andrae and Rebecca

Backgammonjane
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02-28-2004

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
for those in canada it will air tonite on ctv

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like PJ, she's been my favourite for a while. I think if Rachel won it would be horrible for the viewers. Good always has to triumph over evil :-). I hoped he'd keep Rebekah and dump Rachel, particularly after hearing the bad things people said about Rachel, but no.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My favorites were Rebekah and PJ. The only reason I can fathom for him keeping Rachel over Rebekah is this is what the producers wanted. And as you said, good over evil. Just what the producers ordered.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sunrvrose - On the previous discussion of who Rachel reminds people of....as I watched this week's episode, it suddenly hit me that her voice reminded me of someone.

I didn't bother to rewind it and listen more closely, but a couple of times it struck me that she sounded like Emily Procter. That's the actress that plays Calleigh on "CSI Miami" and she was also on "The West Wing" a couple of seasons ago....she played Ainsley Hayes, the right wing consultant in the whitehouse. (Sort of an Ann Coulter clone only with some class and not so emaciated.) Procter has a pretty and distinctive voice.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sanfran: I've never seen CSI Miami (only Vegas)or the The West Wing, so don't know what EP sounds like.

I still think she looks like a combination of Peggy Lipton (mod squad/70's tv show)and a young Cybil Shepherd.

I don't think anyone else will see this comparison though: I think many of Rachel's facial expressions and sometimes her voice sound like Sean Young (the dark haired, somewhat crazy actress, popular in the 80's).

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, July 02, 2004 - 4:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Has anyone noticed what's appeared in the tv guide for the Monday after next...? It's FOR LOVE OR MONEY 4!!!! 15 men and one woman! Argggggg.... if only I had the strength not to watch..... :-)

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Friday, July 02, 2004 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Too funny Kitt. I'd love to have the strength not to watch too, but I'll be there with you, I'm sure.

Spear
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08-06-2001

Friday, July 02, 2004 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
A poster in another forum claims that a co-worker is one of the contestants on FLOM4 and this guy says that the star of FLOM4 is:

(highlight this line for SPOILER: ) RACHEL

Of course, this may not necessarily indicate who Preston chooses on FLOM3.


Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great find Spear! I wonder if the poster is right? Interesting

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Apparently we, in Ontario, get Love or Money at 8PM EST tonight on Canadian TV (as well as 9PM on NBC).

I will be posting the name of the evictee (if you want to hilight it) as soon as I know so if you liked to be spoiled, come on back about 9PM EST!!

Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hmph...hilite for spoilers
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host tells them one has a cheque for $1 and one for the million (how much do you want to bet that they control the values of the cheques. It is too implausible that the two he kept, also had the two most contrasting cheques!!)

new twist, the women are told that,after Preston picks the winner and she decides "love or money" , Preston ALSO gets a chance to pick her or the money!!!!

After comm'l Preston is then told this twist ..he won't know how much money it is either. so if she picks him over the money, will he then break her heart for a possible $1, he is asked


Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spoiler Don't hilite it if you don't want to know:
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Weird..it is only 8:30PM. I wonder how they will fill a half hour since they are now starting to dothe final pick?

You get the impression he prefers Rachel but trusts PJ to pick him more, in the words before he makes the pick.

He tells Rachel he is crazy about her but...then they switch to PJ immediately..so they are showing both, switching back and forth

he tells her he has a little hesitation with her (PJ)...then they switch to comml!

dragging it out..but well done way to do it


Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spoiler Hilite if you want to read it:
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back to Rachel and but...blames her for losing faith in her..so much of him wants to pick her he says..then switches back to PJ again

tells PJ he chooses HER!!!! after he is told Rachel he is crazy about her ..things he never said to PJ.

Obviously he is going for the money

back to Rachel. tells her doesn't know if their chemistry translates to something longterm.

She tells him she can't believe he doesn't pick her. she really confronts him on it!! "so why aren't you picking me..just reiterate that for me", she says

She is really letting him have it and starts to cry. She won't give up


Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spoilers ahead..don't hilight if you don't want to know
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before going to comml they show Rachel telling confessional that she would have chosen him over the money so now she feels stupid.

he says to confessional that he believes that PJ will pick him over the money!!


Jan
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08-01-2000

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spoilers ahead
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Rachel whining to confessional.

THe PJ pick makes sense since we know Rachel is the next contestant on this show.

She finds out her money amount and says unbelievable but we don't get to see it.

back to PJ now talking about how hard this day has been on her.

now she knows she has the choice she says...and we go to comml.

PJ talks about how her family could use the money but money doesn't buy happiness and he makes her happy. SHe chooses HIM over the money.

And I bet he chooses the money over her!! let's see..

he PICKS HER NOT THE MONEY



Floydsdad
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08-22-2003

Monday, July 05, 2004 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The antisapation is killing me Jan. :-)