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Starshine40

Monday, January 05, 2004 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone see it? It's 45 min to go here in CA.

Rslover

Monday, January 05, 2004 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Larissa is very pretty and she looks like she is about to pass out when she sees them. These guys are pretty bad. She is not as composed and diplomatic as Melana was. Oh my gosh, I think you will be surprised at who she eliminates, not who I was hoping for. There will be many more hunks added to the house than last time.

Gina8642

Monday, January 05, 2004 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with the 'not as composed and diplomatic as Melana' although she did loosen up a bit - but nowhere near the degree Melena did. She seems really forced, but determined to be polite about the whole thing.

Did anyone else notice how much they fudged the editing during the guys intro's to Larissa? Everytime they showed her making a face she was by herself - no guy in the frame (even when they should have been there based on where you just saw the guy standing). Everytime she was smiling graciously and being warm and friendly, she was clearly with one of the guys. Any person will make a few faces if they are standing by themselves out under the cameras and lights for hours on end. The editing looked extremely choppy as they attempted to put her most unfriendly faces into the mix. Very fake.

I found myself really bored as the party of the guys went on and on and on. I admit to ff the TiVo button a bit here. So, I don't have much of an impression of them except they are boring. The carrot top guy is obnoxious and I would have booted him first. The ritalin comment was funny.

Looks like from the previews the 'attractive guys' are intro'd sooner than last time. Larissa is going to have an entire football team to choose from if they add anymore.

Not sure this will really match up to the first one. Time will tell...

Max

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 12:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After she met them, when she went upstairs to have her little freak out session with the producer, I got the clear impression that the sole reason she was there was to get TV face time. She kept saying stuff about how she wouldn't be able to get physical with any of these guys and that would make for bad TV (or something like that).

With Melana, she had clearly stated beforehand that she wanted to find a man and that looks were secondary. I don't get the same impression with Larissa.

Now, I grant you that most of the people who come on these shows are probably more concerned about getting face time than anything else, but they usually maintain SOME pretense of other motivations. I just really thought that Larissa was pretty transparent about her intentions. She did talk about possibly meeting her dream man, but when I look at the overall picture of how she presented herself tonight, I was left feeling that her main intentions have nothing to do with love.

I was surprised at who she eliminated, too. Since I'm already being cynical about her intentions (as well as the producer's heavy hand in it all -- love to see what they edited out in that conversation she had upstairs!), I was wondering how much influence the producers had in her choices. If she had gotten rid of the Carrot Top look-alike (can't remember his name), there would be much less chance for entertaining moments, either humorous or conentious.

Anyway, of course I will watch, but I will be highly surprised if she doesn't end up with one of the hunks, just like Melana did.

Rslover

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 12:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Max,
I agree with what you said. I wasn't so surprised tht she eliminated the 5'4" guy Matt and the quiet guy CJ. I was just hoping that instead of eliminating Robert and Chris she would have gotten rid of that Carrot Top/Andy Dick aka Dave & Brian. His accent drives me nuts. There seems to be alot of tongue action next week!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 1:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know this is a horrible thing to say:

I was surprised she didn't eliminate any of the overweight men. I, personally, thought two of the men she asked to leave were the most attractive out of the bunch. This woman strikes me as being passively shallow. (I could be way off-base.) Why wouldn't she let the shy, yet decent looking guy stay while eliminating the men you just know she wouldn't ever be seen with?

I have to agree with Max. I think the producers encouraged her choices.

If you guys get sick of this show, check out "Airline" on A&E at the same time. I found it much more compelling than this predictable schlock.

Eliz87

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 1:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I for one think the heaviest of the bunch has the most attractive facial features. Maybe she thinks the same. (And anyway, I don't think it's too uncommon to see a petite woman with a larger than average man. However, I can't say the same for larger women with slender men. hmmm)

Overall, I think this group of guys is even more below average in looks than the first Average Joe. No personalities have really jumped out at me yet, although the guy from Cleveland has to go because he commented that she was a "hot piece of ass." Eww. Disrespectful.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 3:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also loved the ritalin comment.. that Dave guy is just.. well he reminds me of a junior HS guy.. I knew he wouldn't be eliminated.. too much footage of him in the commercials.. I'd bet money she was told to keep him on.

Last time the girl also kept the really big guys at least thru the first episode .. I'm betting they are told to do that. (I don't mean blanket ALL the heavy men, just would seem that at least one would have been one of the four eliminated)

This batch of guys again.. they want to be loved as they are but make totally disresptful comments and only about her looks and one of them even mentioned what if THEY had to deal with a not so gorgeous girl.. bleh.

I also ignored most of the "frat party" footage.

And heartily agree that Airline was way more interesting.. I watched that and let this record and ff thru some of this one. And have to wait til Wed to see RR/RW Gauntlet.. next week I may just skip this, catch it later when she gets down to fewer choices.

Texannie

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have seen Dave somewhere before..like on an ad on the internet or something..it is driving me crazy!
I think I will switch to Airline. I didn't much care for the girl.

Demeter

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I somewhat disagree with some of the comments about Larissa. I never thought Melena was real and she seemed fake all the way through. I think Larissa was in shock (as was Melena when she met her fellas) and they showed us footage of the producers discussion (Melena likely had some similar discussion).

After she composed herself, I think she handled the guys quite well and actually seemed to be a bit more engaging with them then Melena was the first night.

Other than the shy fellow, I think she did a good job with those she eliminated. I would have chosen the hyper guy as well (to go), but I agree, not choosing him was probably a producer decision.

I recall Melena always saying she wanted someone with some depth, but she didn't seem to have any depth. I noticed that Larissa did find topics to discuss with some of these fellows that have like interests (the art) and did seem to actually be able to carry on a conversation with a few.

Of course, how is that going to change once the hunks are introduced?

Jasper

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought Larissa handled them quite well as well after the inital shock.

Agreed on David aka Carrot Top, reminds me of my 12 yr nephew's behaviour except even more immature. And he seems to think he is charming. I can see why she got rid of Robert, I too could not understand a word he said, and the guy with the Boston twang, I wish she would have got rid of him. The majority of them seem like nice guys, a few of them were also quite funny.

Lots of "hunks" to deal with though. And in the commercials that one guy saying he thinks he is above the average guys, what a jerk!

Scorpiomoon

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eliz87: You're right about the facial features. And I hope you're right that Larissa could see these men as you did.

Brenda1966

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Demeter -- I like Larissa better than Melana and thought she seemed more genuine. I can't imagine how mad I'd be if I thought I was going to meet a dozen Charlies, and out comes Carrot top!

I agree that the producers encouraged her to keep him for entertainment. This bunch is certainly less physically attractive than the last bunch. I love how she asked the producers if they made them up to be more "dorky" -- something many of us here suspected. I also noticed the manipulative editing of her conversations with the producers. Sometimes she was actually doing a voice over but the were showing her sitting in the room with the hidden camera -- what we heard her saying didn't match what her mouth was saying on film. I wish the editing were more honest.

I thought Mike, the anal-retentive one, had a very attractive face. I don't like all the tattoos and his constant cleaning would drive me nuts, but his face is cute. By the previews it looks like he hangs around for a while.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked the one tattoo of the crow.. but I like crows :)

I also liked the guy, I think he's asian, large guy.. and the bald guy with the strange facial hair.. don't care for the facial "topiary" (a term coined in the SO area) but I thought he sounded like someone I'd want to get to know.

I also like her better than Malena.

And frankly I don't see how either of these women could have felt anything but manipulated when the guys walked out of the bus.

I'm betting that all dating reality shows will now have the men and women asking more questions/making more demands before they sign up to be the chooser.

Mack

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Taking these shows at "face value" I'm assuming the ladies thought they were getting into nothing more or less than a "Bachelor" look alike show. With that in mind, regardless of how shallow it might seem to some, it had to be a bit unnerving when these fellows got off the bus. If they ever have a "Plain Jane" version I'll lay odds right now the guy wouldn't act much differently. Of course, as Seamonkey so rightly says, it's going to get harder and harder to get people to sign up for these shows without more details. Seems to me that eventually these shows will die because, besides being an old/tired format, everybody (selector/selectee alike)will be signing up for no other reason than "15 minutes" of fame. To a point that's already happening though I don't have the sensing its every last one of them....yet.

Lori

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought Larissa handled herself well after the initial shock.

I was somewhat surprised at her eliminations. Two of those guys were actually somewhat attractive.

That hyper guy should have been the first to go. He definitely needs meds!

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We could send hyper guy to an island with Lill and they can jump on beds and couches to their hearts delight :)

Justalittlebean

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why don't they show Larissa without her professionaly done make up and hair style? I'm sure she would be quite the plain jane too. I'm switching to Airline too. I was curious to watch it last night and one night is enough.

Max

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good question, Justa!

I watched both Airline and this. I have a DIsh Network system and A&E broadcasts are on Eastern time, so I get all their shows three hours earlier. Makes it a lot easier to juggle everything! :)

Hootyhoot

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I live about 70 miles outside of Boston, and I thought that one fellow's Boston accent was the WORST I ever head! Good gosh, I wonder if I sound like that?!?

Starshine40

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I totally agree with Demeter and others who think Larissa was fine after her initial shock. To me she seemed much more open to the guys, discussion wise, than Melana was. She seemed to find things to talk about with most of them and didn't seem superficial to me once she had made up her mind that she was going to "have fun" and get to know the guys.
Dave (Carrot-top) must be there only for comic relief, I can't imagine who would want to date a guy like him after seeing how he behaved on the show.

Catfat

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Didn't see the show, I was watching "Castaway". However, I saw the promos and I think Larissa looks like a young Jeri Manthey, from Survivor Australia". Hee Hee Hee. I hope Jeri sees this.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 06, 2004 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still think the guys should be given suggestions on dress and grooming.. those who take advantage of it may find that they aren't so quirky.. those who revel in their quirkiness of course should stay that way.

Last time, I thought Adam should have just shaved.
Put on a sport coat, just for the final.. that isn't a huge stretch.

Scorpiomoon

Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 12:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Seamonkey: Good point. I think it would make for an interesting twist for the guys to get "makeovers" and then see how Larissa response to them afterward.

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I swore I wasn't going to watch this show again, but there I was plugged into it.

I like her better than Malena, her reaction was honest.

I would love to see the make-over of the guys a twist.

That guys who answered yes when asked if he thought he was better, can you say egotisical, shallow moron any better than saying his name. Looks like they are setting these guys up as a rivalry for Larissa. Bet they have a average Joe be the winner this time.