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Archive through May 25, 2004

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Rupertbear
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09-19-2003

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It made me laugh when the women first came out to take their walk down the run way and they all posed.

Rofl....looked to me like they were all doing a version of "I'm A Little Teapot".

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
and the winner is.....Rachel Love Fraser/Frazier

told ya :-)

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lol....

Katbee
Member

09-15-2001

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
During the swimsuit competition the background music seemed to be saying, "everybody looks the same." My thoughts exactly!

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So, is anyone gonna post a spoiler? Who is "the swan"? Or was Ketchuplover making a joke, and I didn't get it...????

Broxi
Member

03-11-2004

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ketchuplover did indeed post the winner. No joke there

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Broxi! I guess I'm not as far behind the times as I thought! <wink>

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, slightly catty comment here... you can spend thousands of dollars on cosmetic surgery, counseling, makeup, and clothing, but you cannot turn a duckling into a model. Where the HECK were the coaches here? These women do not know how to walk a catwalk! Strange vogue poses, OK... they wanted a silouette... but 7 out of 9 girls cannot WALK!!! The ones that got higher marks? They knew how to walk!

Meow...purr...

Broxi
Member

03-11-2004

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Costa... I was thinking the same thing. When some of them walked down the catwalk... I thought I was looking at Lumberjacks. I can not remember which one it was.... but... one woman needed to be told swinging your arms as if you were power walking would make her look ridiculous.

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Broxi, that was EXACTLY what I meant!! When I saw her walking down the runway, I thought "uh oh, no way, unh unh!"

Funny, I just saw the segment where they were "working" this past month. And there was a bit about dance and learning how to walk. But they did something wrong somewhere... those swinging arms looked, well, I was thinking more simian than lumberjack!

They cheated in the swim suit comp, though... Stockings? Walk the runway in a bikini with bare legs, and then you'll find out who's got confidence! (Believe me, that was the one part I hated most!!!)

I think I do like Rachel the best. She's the most natural looking. I mean, big "boobies" do not a gorgeous woman make. And someone (who's the one from San Diego?) is, well, a little top heavy. Way outta proportion.

I do like, however, that the judges picked a couple of larger woman to be in the F6 (Kelly, for one).

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 10:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Haven't read anything here yet, but this was perhaps the one of the most cringeworthy shows I've ever watched. Luckily, I was able to FF thru commercials, all the endless recaps..

It seemed like most of them were trained to present themselves in the manner of an exotic dancer or , well, whatever..

I was convinced that they had pre-determined that Beth was the one; she seemed to get an awful lot of, um.. inflated scores.. but nope.

I wondered with a couple of them who were so covered up if they had some serious scarring left from the surgery.


Glad THAT is over.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Monday, May 24, 2004 - 11:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If the therapist is indeed a licensed MFT in California, then she is probably qualified.. and she would not need a PhD to be licensed, though many do here..



<still cringing>

Lurknomore
Member

07-07-2001

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok when I couldn't take Colonial House I flipped back and forth and couldnt' count how many times this made me cringe. I was sorry I missed the final question cause I still can't figure out why the one that won actually won.

While I'm glad they worked on the emotional/psychological aspects of this with the contestents (but hope it was more than just once a week yikes), as usual Fox just overdid the cheese factor IMHO (I mean come on a lingerie contest? I must say for some reason I really liked Cindy and wanted her to win. Not sure why, but oh well.

And not all the scoring seemed to make sense to me. Wonder what they were basing some of it on?!

I wish this show would take a lesson from Extreme Makeover; Home Edition where they do stuff for the right folks needing it but somehow it never feels cheesy or like "queen for a day." (BTW I was VERY young when I watched that show...an infant almost lolol. And it was probably early reruns!).

Floridagirl1010
Member

07-29-2003

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It was almost a Frankenstein type of show...it kind of creeped me out! Yes the they looked much better but I couldn't get past the fact that they had so much surgery done...and the boobs...ICK! Sorry but they were way out of control..not even natural looking which you would think that they would want? Not over the top (no pun intended) super boobs!

Broxi
Member

03-11-2004

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lurknomore...I to liked Cindy. I thought her overall transformation was the best. She was very natural looking in my opinion. I suppose I felt that way because she still looked something like herself.

General Comments....

What annoyed me the most was the show seemed to feed the myth that a woman is not beautiful unless she has a huge chest, huge lips, way to bright white teeth, and not a wee wrinkle on her face.

I don't have anything against women who opt to have plastic surgery. More power to them. But a natural bust line that is large or small looks so much better than those balloons that people are getting implanted. I can not stand it when women are made to feel {and it p*sses me off more some by into it} that getting implants will make us attractive.

I am living with breast cancer.... at some point I will have reconstruction done {Because I am not even 40 yet}.... but.... I will NOT and NEVER will allow the doctor to put in an implant that was not close to my original breast size. {And I was very small chested to start with}

A lot of people may say.... if you feel that way about the implants why would you have them.!? The answer is simple....... I want to look LIKE I DID PRIOR to getting this disease. I in no way by into the myth that Bigger Boobs will make me a more beautiful person.

Floridagirl1010
Member

07-29-2003

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Broxi - I'm so sorry you have to go through that:-(
I agree that natural is better - I have thought about it but only b/c I've had 2 children and mine are going south...I would only have a lift or an implant that is my same size.
I feel like this show is giving young people the wrong impression...what happened to working with what God gave you? I can see facial scars and acne taken care of and tummy tucks from losing too much weight and having the skin taken off - I can even see having your teeth done if they are really bad but the rest is just overdone.
These woman were almost lab tests.
My thoughts are with you!

Jimmer
Member

08-30-2000

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I love reality television and I’ll give pretty much anything a chance but I just found the concept of this whole show demeaning and pathetic. For example, why do some people think that big fake you know whats are better than the real thing (regardless of size)? There’s simply no comparison. Hopefully someone got some long-term happiness out of this show, but I seriously doubt it.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Have to agree with Seamonkey, glad THAT is over!

I do have to give props to the ladies who compete in the real pageants though. The Swan ladies walks down the runway were so unpolished. The lumberjack/simian walks, the over-accentuated swing of the hips, the walking-to-bounce-the-boobs. One girl I'm sure was actually lifting up onto her toes with each step and coming down hard. I'm sure it was to enhance the bounce. But most of all, what the heck was up with the "I'm a little teapot" pose (props to Rupertbear on that description).

Anyone else have a vision of the prom scene in Carrie when they were showing the crowned winner, and a shower of sparkler stuff started coming down? And then the ticker-tape stuff! Had to LOL while watching our host mug to the camera as she wrapped the show up, all while having a big piece of ticker tape in her hair, and a few more pieces trying to find their way down her dress!

So, are we all going to tune into Swan II next season?

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Jim, you are right but I suppose the reason women end up getting big 'you know whats' is because men in general seem to like the 'bigger is better concept'...lol.

Although I find many now are singing a different tune...because up close and personal, the fake, big 'you know whats' are hard and ungiving and just feel plain unnatural.

I also agree about the demeaning and pathetic aspect and the ONLY reason I had it on last night is 'cos I couldn't find anything else to watch. But I definitely won't be tuning in to this next season.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Actually, I don't think ALL of them would have come up with that hip swinging, faux-alluring and bouncy walk on their own., I think they were actually trained to do that.

I think the teapot poses were attempts to emulate Charlie's Angel poses or some such..

Roxip, sending you strength in your battle with cancer. I salute you wanting to reconstruct to be balanced and similar to your real body and if you have a LIFT done, it can rejuvenate what you have and are.

The irony is that the same day, Dr Phil had a finale for his Dr Phil Challenge people who spend a year on his diet and plan and worked very hard to rethink lives.. and what a cool celebration.

I wrote about it in Seventh Heaven thread (because someone there was sad to have missed the Dr Phil finale) and WHAT a contrast last night when I saw this.. tho as I said I made very liberal use of FF.. mostly just watching the competiton and scores and results. I missed the tickertape in the host's hair because by then I'd seen the result, was pretty happy that Beth didnh't win and erased the recording.

I was at the dentist yesterday and asked him if he'd seen the Extreme Makeover dental work, really expecting that he would scoff, but he brightened up and said he's done some work like that with tragic teeth, broken, etc and loves it.. he said some of those makeovers on teeth would run about $30 K.. I didn't mention The Swan, just couldn't do it.

I told him and he agreed that the dental work done is the most lasting and significant part of it..

Madelane
Member

08-20-2001

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone else count the host's costume changes? I can't remember now if it was six or seven, but it was definitely at least six. In two hours.

Also: I was talking about the boob thing with a couple guys the other night, and at least the two of them were totally oblivious to whether boobs are fake or not, just that they are big. It was so frustrating - I'm like, who cares if they're big if they look so fake? And they're all, "they're fake? I just see big boobs."

I feel like there's no hope.

Rupertbear
Member

09-19-2003

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well Madelane, I think there is hope because...well apart from Jim's comment above...he does see the difference and cares... but I've been reading on line and granted it's guys discussing the females that are featured in girlie magazines but I notice that more and more are beginning to opine that fake breasts are way too pervasive these days. Some actually prefer what mother nature bestowed.

You know, if aliens were to take a look around at many young women these days, they'd believe that no one is ever born with under a 36DD endowment! lol



Roxip
Member

01-29-2004

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was kind of hoping Belinda would win...she seemed like she really got the most significant re-establishment of her self-esteem and had lost an amazing amount of weight. She never whined and she had a great attitude. Plus she kept her original nose and I don't think she had an enhancement.

Oh well, what do I know...lol...I was flipping channels and didn't see that much of the show or of the final competition.

Broxi
Member

03-11-2004

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Madelane after I read your post it got me thinking.

I am sure we all know men who think Pamela Anderson is the epitome of sex appeal {for the last couple of years anyway.}

I am curious as to who we as Women believe is.


Kate Hudson and Sela Ward jumped into my mind immediately. And I had to add... Queen Latifah!
She is big and beautiful but oh so comfortable in her own body....



Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, May 25, 2004 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, actully she has a breast reduction, so wasn't too comfy.. but yes she has great energy and is self possessed..