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Realfan
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08-08-2001

Monday, March 22, 2004 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<<Realfan, they do look alike, except Rachel is kidding when she has crazy eyes, and it appears Jen L. is deadly serious with her crazy eyes!>>

BWAH!!! We'll see if she's as intense tonight. Only three more hours to go until the second episode.

<<So, if Adam's "look" is so unappealing how come Ryan Seacrest has the same look and seems to get away with it? >>

Bone structure, for one. Coloring, for another. Brad Pitt gets away with it on both counts, so does Seacrest (though to a lesser extent.) Adam has very white skin, and a very dark, heavy beard which just looks hideous, IMO. The other guys have tanned complexions and blond-light brown hair of a similar hue (the hair to the skin).

Couple Adam's white skin and black stubble with his lantern jaw and small mouth, and you have a visual trainwreck. Bad of him to follow his mom's advice! Shave, Adam, shave!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, March 22, 2004 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Real! D'ya think if we all sent really REALLY strong thought waves to (where is he, back in NY?) Adam, he'd "get it"? And shave?

Call me shallow, but all his $$ don't do it if there's a major "visual trainwreck" going on. I mean, you can do the paper bag thing (over the head) but... <snicker> <smirk> <giggle>

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Monday, March 22, 2004 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just because his mother said she likes him with facial hair doesn't mean that Adam is doing the scruffy thing for her or because of her. It happens to be "the fashion"! Actually her comment makes me think she would like him with a nice trimmed beard or a goatee. Unfortunately, the Queer Eye guys themselves are so into this scruffy two-day beard and bead-head style, that if they were to give Adam a makeover, he'd look just as he does now. Interesting that men follow some really ugly styles just as women do -- note those hideous, heavy-looking, clunky shoes women have been wearing for the past few years.

Hippyt
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09-10-2001

Monday, March 22, 2004 - 11:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, March 22, 2004 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gee, I thought by now, someone would have some comments about tonight's show. (I really need to get another life! LOL)

OK, Adam did some typical "man" things (which appears catches up w/him next wk!) and then he did the "good thing" with the model babes. I sort of warmed up to creepy-eyed Jen L and actually, felt a little choked up when she was talking about never having had someone special and being judged on your looks, etc.

The thing is, so what that Adam got rid of the model babes?! It's not like he has a houseful of dawgs waiting for him! Those women are ALL attractive in some way! None of them are 100 lbs over-weight like some of the "Joes" were. Some are super pretty. I don't think he was making that much of a sacrifice sending the model babes away. Oh yeah...great character.. I admit, he scored points with me when he did it, but then I looked at the remaining women and thought, "BIG DEAL!!" It's not like he has a houseful of dorks either.

I'd really love to see the "poor men" who complained about not being given a fair chance because of their weight, be presented with women as overweight percentage-wise as they were. Something tells me they wouldn't be giving positive raves! They sure were hot for the swimsuit babes. EWWWW

Although.. I do think Brad Pitt should be totally attracted to me.. and umm.. Ian from the Bachelorette.. and... LOLOLOL YEAH RIGHT! I'm realistic... I'm too old, too fat, and well... let's just leave it at that. LOL


Dee
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08-08-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 12:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm surprised at the lack of posts here too! LOL

I thought Adam was such a sweetie for sending the Baywatch wannabes away but then when he let the woman go who had a child, I had mixed feelings. He WAS being honest in that he wasn't ready for a "family" situation so that was good - but he said he'd had a crush on her so I was hoping he could have at least kept her for another week to get to know her better.

I'm just not into this show as much as the other Average Joe. *sigh*

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 12:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Episode #2 just finished and I wasnt impressed. Adam sent those swimsuit girls away because he is not comfortable around really attractive "model-like" women. In AJ1 Melina seemed pretty but was not in the same category as these gorgeous swimsuit models, in my opinion. Adam was fumbly and nervous around Melina for most of the show. Since this is HIS SHOW there is no doubt that he wanted control INTERESTING how the guy gets to change the producer's mind when Melina and Larissa had to "just deal with it". Can we say DOUBLE STANDARD boyz n gurls>???
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I am so surprised that Adam had to nerve to eliminate the single mom and actually ADMIT that it was because he didnt want to deal with a child....HOW incredibly shallow!!! She was 23 yrs old with one child.......HECK, I know women who had 4 kids at that age!! I think the truth MIGHT be that Adam is very childish and wants total pandering and full attention.

ON another note, it was JOE not Donato who was one of the 3 AJs picking out the models.....I was wrong in a previous post :-((


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 1:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If Adam is freaked about her having a child, then he did the right thing, since a child should be wanted in a person's life.

However, I hope that this lovely and determined mom will get some stacks of reassuring mail letting her know that there are some great guys who would love to have the whole package or at least would certainly consider it longer than Adam did.

Sun, I also wondered about Adam being allowed to change the rules (send home the swimsuit gals) but we don't really know if the two women ever asked about that option.. they both seemed to say they "had to be fair" and get to know the model guys.. of course they also had a larger percentage of overweight or ultra-geeky guys to deal with.

Amd Adam clearly is going to fall victim to the same cruel reveal that they used on the last show, except it looks like ALL of the women will be shown dates and not just with one person. It was mean when they did it in season 2 and looks to be even meaner this time.



Llwynn
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In defense of Adam, I have to put in my two cents here. I am a single girl with no children and I am very wary of dating someone with children. Its not to say that I wouldn't, but it would certainly make me think twice in searching for a husband. I love children and hope to have some of my own, but when a child is involved in a relationship, it makes things much more difficult.

If things don't work out with someone, it is hard enough to move on, but the way you open yourself up to a child, moving on is much more difficult. You love a child unconditionally and if you lose the person you are dating that is one thing, but having been attached to a child and going forward adds another angle to the situation. You must also consider the fact that you are essentially taking on the child's other parent for the duration of your relationship, which can also be very complicated.

Kudos to Adam for being honest about not being ready for a family. He was honest from the beginning and saved a woman and a child a lot of heartache later, and perhaps himself as well.

Chimley
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02-12-2004

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that Adam did the right thing by not keeping Brittany if he was not comfortable with a child. It is a big responsibility and at least he knows he isn't ready for it and didn't want to give her the impression that he was.

I believe that the producers never had any intension of keeping the swim suit models. I think they set it up so Adam would look good saying that he didn't want to keep them. And honestly, I really didn't think they were that pretty.

I feel for Jennifer. I'm sure it took a lot of courage to go on national TV and knowing that you wouldn't be one of the most attractive woman to choose from. She probably felt a connection with Adam from the first show since he was one of the "average Joes's." I hope she can find someone to appreciate who she is.

Realfan
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08-08-2001

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
<<I don't think he was making that much of a sacrifice sending the model babes away. Oh yeah...great character.. I admit, he scored points with me when he did it, but then I looked at the remaining women and thought, "BIG DEAL!!">>

No kidding. I also thought it was good of him, but the girls he called "swimsuit models" were not that much more special than many of the girls he already had to choose from. Also, in defense of Melena and Larissa, they had much less of an opportunity to turn down the hunks--the hunks arrived during an elimination ceremony. Adam had the time and opportunity to make the call. I agree with Chimley--the producers never intended him to keep them.

As for his problem with the kid--ugh. I agree if he's REALLY not comfortable he shouldn't keep her, but I bet he doesn't really know if he is or not. He took the easy way out not exploring his feelings for Brittany. If he loved her, he could find room in his life for her son. After all, she said she's not looking for a father for him--the boy already has an involved, loving dad.

I also feel for Jennifer--feel kinda bad I made fun of her now. I hope she gets some interest from some nice men from being on this show.

Anyone else TOTALLY SKEEVED by the fat guys leering at the swimsuit models? UGH!! It grossed me out big time. I half expected to see "evidence" of their arousal.

Hippyt
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09-10-2001

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with ya'll about the Brittany thing. Have to say by telling him about her kid,Brittany showed a great deal of courage. She showed that she isn't just some hoochie wanna be on tv girl.
The big guys are disgusting,and not because of their size.

Jonnyzbabe
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03-12-2004

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 1:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also thought it was interesting that Adam got a chance to 'take control' of the show. Did he have more pull or guts w/the producers b/c he's already been on the show or b/c the producers never intended him to keep the girls?

And I was sad to see Brittany go, he should have given that crush more of a chance.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Realfan, haha I was thinking the same thing that the guys wouldn't be able to stand up or shown on camera after those girls switched into those bikinis!! My DH thought that some of those bikini model girls appeared almost stripper/porn starish and not anyone that Adam would want.

Next week looks so good with all the girls seeing the private dates and the remarks behind closed doors that the other girls are making. Should make for a more catty environment and interesting to see who rises above it all. Hope poor Jennifer isn't hurt.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First, I was surprised no one mentioned the implication that Rachel was a little stalker-y. First they showed the girls back at the house saying that she said she knew everything about him, even his favorite color, then they showed her on the date with him mentioning the name of a guy on his favorite team, then later saying his "motto" coincidentally to him. The You Only Live Once thing. Makes ya wonder.

Also, it appears that the girls inadvertently saw a promo for the show, the same promo we all saw over the past weeks. Not actually seeing the dates and behind closed doors stuff. But worse, remember the promo showed him making out with like, every girl and saying the thing about them being aggressive. That's what they saw, what we don't know is whether the producers meant them to or not.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First of all, as far as Adam eliminating Brittany because of her child, even though I never would have eliminated someone for that reason (and, lo, I married a man with two--admittedly grown--children), I've known lots of people who just weren't ready to be a parent. My 27 YO step-daughter for one says she would never date someone with children (I told her she might change her mind if she really, really liked the guy). Llwynn, you brought up some very excellent points about involving a child in a relationship. My DH's niece has dated two or three guys with small children. It's very hard when you break up, cause not only are you breaking up with the parent but you're kind of also breaking up with a small child who has probably developed some attachment for you, too. It's much more difficult than just breaking up with one person. I think Adam was very mature for deciding that he wasn't ready for that complication. I'm sure there are a lot of guys out there who are.

As far as Adam eliminating the swimsuit girls (who really weren't all that good-looking anyway--porn stars! hee!), I thought it was great. When DH wondered why the two women never chose that option, I was like, "Are you KIDDING me???" Both Melana and Larissa were THRILLED when those cute guys started streaming through the door. Remember they started out with mostly absolute dorks and social retards. Of course they were happy when the cute guys showed up!

Cr8ofdata
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01-13-2004

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My husband thought that it was really low of Adam to send Brittany home, but I said "think about it, does anyone really want to bring a child into reality TV?" I mean, look at the media... if he would have chosen her then her child would have been in the media too. I think that it was a wise choice on his part. Hey, my mom had two boys when she met my dad and he not only asked her to marry him within two weeks of dating, but took on the role of Dad - they have been together for 35 years and my brothers call him dad and treat him like a dad... heck I never knew they weren't my "real" brothers until some bully at school pointed it out!!! Some people can do it, some can't

Lauram
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07-13-2000

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The whole bit with the "swimsuit models" was a joke. If they really wanted to bring more attractive girls onto the show they would have done so taistefullly. I mean really...having them walk off the bus in their bathing suits and then posing on the side of the hot tub was insulting!!

I don't believe they ever planned on these girls staying. It was simply a play to make Adam look good. If they didn't bring them, people would say how come they didn't bring attractive enticers like they did for Melana and the Other Gal(??). But if they really brought on attractive enticers, and Adam picked one, everyone would be screaming what a scum he was and how stupid the show is. Seems they were stuck between a rock and a hard place..

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmmmm you guys are RIGHT!! This was a set up by producers to make Adam look good for TV. The girls SHOULD have been brought in the same way as the hunks were on AJ1 and 2. THEN if Adam sent them away it would seem more legitimate.
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I guess that the producers wanted to make sure that WHEN and IF they cast more Average Joes that the nerfy guys would THINK they are going to get bikini girls (if they want)....LOL!!

Dynair
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01-06-2004

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 12:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After reading the other posts, I agree--the swimsuit girls were goners from the start. It was just a little male fantasy sidebar to the show.

One thing that strikes me in this show is the focus on jealousy and competition between the women in the house. One reason I enjoyed the last two Average Joe's was the fun and camraderie the guys were having. I thought it was so refreshing after Bachelor/Bachelorette in which everyone was on guard and playing for the cameras. It's probably the biggest reason I liked "Average Joe", despite the scripting & pretense.

I feel sure this is editing. I would guess that out of this group of women there are times when they are getting to know one another and having fun. Although I do recognize that there are a couple of women who seem--ummm . . way too territorial--in their approach, I hope this is not the way the producers are going to go with this show--just a catfight.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The difference is.........Larissa and Melina were not RICH with tons of $$$$$$ and a company. The AJs were competitive but also were supportive of the guys with low selfesteem. (except Zach who was most a jerk)
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Adam seems to be thrown in with a group of pirana LOL They really do seem like semi-stalkerlike personalities.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, a lot of the women of Blob's Bachelor show, seemed real smitten with him, too. I thought it was disgusting to watch them all fawn all over him like he was a huge celebrity - kinda like they are with Adam... but he has MONEY.. MONEY ... MONEY!!! (ooops.. wrong show! LOL)

Immikeswfe
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04-24-2003

Monday, March 29, 2004 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe I'm being a little hard on Brittany, but I agree on Adam's letting her go. Not because she has a child, but what I believe to be poor judgement. Should a mother leave her child for an indefinite amount of time to win what.......a weekend with Adam! We have seen, 90% of these relationships do not work out. If it were Survivor, or Big Brother with a cash prize that may actually help out in raising the child, I see that more of a reason to leave the child for an extended period. If I were young and single again, I would have no problem dating someone with children (as long as I see that they truly care about the child) I'm not saying Brittany doesn't care. She's young, she deserves a life of her own but.....I think the child should come first, it didn't ask to be born to a 17 year old mom. Oh...this all sounds so cruel, but I don't mean it to be!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Monday, March 29, 2004 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Swim suit girls = Complete and total set-up.

Hello? Adam worrying about the regular women 'on their way' while the swim suit arrive and pose at pool side? What a joke. Unless the woman's house is a 4 hour drive away, this was just dumb. They arrive, they say hellow, they go to pool, Adam and producers talk, Adam kicks them out, the lunch table is reset for fewer women. Ummm I'm supposed to believe this happened in 15-30 minutes it takes the 'average janes' to drive over from next door? Morelike a full day of filming. Just moving the cameras and lighting from place to place along with the mic-ing and de-micing and clothing changes would take many, many hours!!!

At least they could have tried to find a way to make this look slightly realistic. I don't think it would take a rocket scientists to come up with a better scenario. I doubt the 'average jane' lunch and the swim suits arrival even took place on the same day.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Monday, March 29, 2004 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't have a problem with 'the mom' coming on the show. Single mom's deserve to date too. It's not realistic of these shows to provide all these perfect pretty single woman. That isn't at all what the 'dating pool' really looks like. There are woman like Brittany (?) all over the place. Also, while a little rotten, I didn't have a big problem with Adam dumping her so quick on the news of her motherhood. I think there a ton of guys out there like Adam who refuse to even consider dating a single mom. I hope some young girls are watching that and now know having a kid early isn't some 'neato' adventure and it has long term ramifications. Too many young woman think having a baby is going to mean unconditional love and be 'fun'. The don't know (or fully realize) that young mothers cannot just hang out and have fun and party and date causally like other young woman can.

I was also incredibly impressed with Brittany (? - the mom) that she'd got her bachelors after having a kid. That is a VERY difficult thing to accomplish. She should be incredibly proud of herself - I think she is. I have zero problem with a person leaving their kids for brief periods for opportunities or whatever (vacations, honeymoons, business trips, reality TV show appearances) provided the child(ren) has/have a good place to stay while the parent is gone. She clearly stated that her child had a dad and a good dad. For all we know during the period she did this show was during a time when she didn't even have custody anyway. (Vacation or whatever). It's very important for children whose parents arn't married to spend time with BOTH parents. This was probably a great opportunity for the child to bond with his/her dad.