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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 5:27 pm
What a waste of time. I probably won't watch Adam either. Now the show seems very scripted. I'm glad to hear that Brian seemed fine on the Tonight Show. The above posts have good explanations for Gil's anger about Fabio. Everyone has an ex. It seems so weird that a guy would even care, it's women who find him so icky mostly. So, he probably wasn't even angry about it, just acting. It did remind me of a Seinfeld episode...I think Jerry wanted to date a woman until he found out that Newman had dated her. I'm not sure. I find it odd that NBC didn't promote Larissa and Gil being back together or something with the Today show to get more viewers.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 5:35 pm
I don't believe she is really with Gil. I think they were coerced with some monetary encouragement to be seen publicly. I personally don't think either one was suitable for her. Though Brian is a nice guy, you have to wonder why a 31 year old never felt love before. Now, he feels like he is in love because he has a beautiful woman. Maybe, his standards were way too high. His accent was driving me nuts, and I was just watching. Someone was asking about Fabio so I thought I'd post a photo. As you can see, he is alot older than Larissa. Today on the View they were talking about what a jerk Gil is. They also commented on all the women Fabio has been with. They showed a clip of when Fabio was on the show with his budget coat line and he and Joy were in a bed together for a goof.

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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 9:09 pm
I may be a little off here, but I don't think Brian was an "average" Joe. I mean, really, how many of you know a 31 year old man who's never said "I love you" or "felt like that" with a woman? Most of the AJs were NOT average. I work with a bunch of "average" guys, and they are all better looking, more socially aware, and more articulate. I mean, think about it. Some of the AJs this year were, well... so not average. As for Larissa, I actually loved the fact that she got "rejected." I think Gil was an idiot (and always did) and I don't quite get why he would go nonlinear over a past (past! get over it!) relationship that she had with Fabio. I mean, I think he's gross, but that has nothing to do with THEIR relationship (the current one that wasn't). Although, I am glad she didn't pick Brian. She was right... he made her feel good cause he worshipped her. But that gets real old real quick, and downright awful the first time you fall off the pedestal upon which you've been placed. Been there. Done that. Not pleasant. (I mean, he's a grown man for pete's sake!!!! )
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 1:58 am
Costacat, I totally agree with you. I know REAL average Joes, too. They went for the extreme here. Jay Leno was telling Brian he was a good looking guy and he told Jay he was a total geek. He was only short the pocket protector and he'd changed a lot since the show first aired. I also would feel a bit put off with a guy with so little confidence, esp. at his age. While Ian of the Bachelorette said he had never told another women he loved her before, it was obvious he knew what he was doing when it came to women. Big difference! It wouldn't surprise me at all if Brian had never been intimate with anyone either. He didn't look all that experienced with kissing. I hope he has to the confidence now to go out and stop just hanging with that crew in the bar. He could have played the Cliff the mailman on CHEERS. LOL
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Enbwife
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 9:51 am
I still have no understanding of why Gill was so upset that she dated Fabio. Who cares? and what business is it of his anyway??? Someone fill me in! How lame and stupid is that! I was sad she chose Gill over Brian... he grew on me by the end. I think this whole thing is the dumbest thing I've seen to date on reality TV.
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 11:18 am
I heard Gil and Larissa on a local radio show here in Miami a few days ago. About the Fabio thing - from the conversation they had on the radio, Gil was jealous, plain and simple. They likened it to a guy having dated Heather Locklear previously, how would the girl feel finding this out. Larissa made the comment that "it was very hard kissing Brian". So why keep him? Because it's all fake folks, that's why. I'll not be watching Adam and his not so Average Janes. I agree with Max that the dating reality show genre has jumped the shark.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 1:33 pm
I do think this was all scripted. We did not see much of Gil airtime because there was not much there. He was meant to be there in the end. The tantrum was the worse acting I HAVE ever seen. Didn't he step on some kind of bottle and started kicking. Her scene on the sofa about how ironic it was that she was all alone......give me a break!!!!!!!!!! All those scenes of them with different clothes on to show that they were there for a bunch of days and the hot tub scene was all ACTING! Maybe if they would have shown some footage of them having some kind of chemistry then I might have room for doubt. Even when she chose him and they hugged I was thinking "*^@(#*$^(@*^$ " there was no glow no passsion no nothing!!!!!!!!! She had more lust when she was making out with Michael Kilne on the boat date then she did on that night. My hubby(-who got me watching-believe it or not)and I were were laughing and changed channels immediately. That was the lamest ending EVER!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 1:43 pm
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/ "Fabio wishes Larissa ... the best." The bizarre-ass twist on the finale of Average Joe 2: Hawaii continues to raise questions. Fabio? Fabio? Fabio?! We've yet to hear from the cover boy himself, but the Seattle Post-Intelligencer talks to people around him. Fabio's close friend, who knows Larissa, says, "She's better off without the guy." He means without Gil. And Fabio's manager says that "Fabio wishes Larissa nothing but the best." The manager also has advice for Gil from Fabio: "if that guy is looking to date someone he (Fabio) hasn't, he should start dating men."
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 2:09 pm
Let's think... how about if she dated.... Hugh Hefner? Bill Gates?
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 2:45 pm
Long Dong Silver?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 7:42 pm
Zules wrote: quote:Larissa made the comment that "it was very hard kissing Brian". So why keep him?
You know, I was thinking that very thing while I was watching him TRYING to kiss her on that last date. It looked painful! And he looked like he didn't know how to kiss. I think I would've dumped him, too. Oh wait, I *have* dumped men for being crappy kissers!!! <grin>
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 8:25 pm
ROFL!!! I totally remember dumping this guy in HS freshman year, and he turned out to be a super guy, but when he kissed me it was just so awful, I wanted to run away. I think the trembling had a bit to do with it, too. Not that I was ALL THAT experienced myself! I remember this other guy I had liked at the time asked right off if he was a bad kisser. LOLOL Too funny that he knew exactly what it was! Gawd...I just remembered - we had gone outside from a HS dance and he kissed me and it was awful and I looked over his shoulder and saw the other guy I had had a crush on standing there - yeah, the one who asked if he was a bad kisser. Hehehehe
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 8:27 pm
Oh and I won't even go into the ones in later years who thought they were vacuum cleaners or were searching for your tonsils halfway down your throat and thought THAT was enjoyable. hahahaha
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 8:48 pm
LONG DONG SILVER LOL.......HEY, Fabio could be endowed such as that! Oh wait! Maybe I am not supposed to know who Mr Silver is :-0 ;-)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 9:13 pm
Costacat, I noticed that too..he didn't really seem to know how to kiss.
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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 4:10 am
Hey, bad kissing is a deal breaker. However, Brian shouldn't feel bad. I saw Larissa and Gil on Fox & Friends. They had all of the chemistry of a flat 7Up. He still can't string a sentence together and she just wants to be on tv. Blink, blink.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 06, 2004 - 11:10 pm
I will only watch Adam if he shaves and dresses decently, OR if all the women in the show also don't shave or press their outfits That's what Adam deserves if he cannot clean up a bit.. hairy legs n pits..
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Sunday, March 07, 2004 - 7:12 am
The problem with the whole premise of this show (well, ONE of the problems) is that they are assuming that you can fall for a person for their personality *just as fast* as you can fall for someone out of physical attraction. That is just not the case - being an engineer, I have many times fallen for people with great personalities with so-so looks (from an objective standpoint - after you get to like them they start looking better.) The thing is though, it takes TIME. This show runs what, 6 weeks? In 6 weeks you can develop a foundation with someone that you are already attracted to, but I just do not see it as enough time to *develop* an attraction based on a friendship. For something like that to work I think you need lots of opportunity to be around the "friend" in non-dating type situations to learn to appreciate them and then what usually happens is one day *bing*! the light bulb pops on that hey this person really is a sweetheart and I could really feel good with this person. At least that has been my experience!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 1:23 am
Seamonkey: I will only watch Adam if he shaves and dresses decently, OR if all the women in the show also don't shave or press their outfits That's what Adam deserves if he cannot clean up a bit.. hairy legs n pits.. ======= ROFL You are TOO FUNNY!!! Thanks for the laugh.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 1:30 pm
I should say that while I don't have any problem with hairy legs n pits.. I'm pretty sure that Adam expects his women to be "tidy".. just has a double standard when it comes to his own grooming and dressing.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 2:17 pm
Alisons: Excellent point. I agree with you. I'm curious to know, out of the entire duration of the taping of the show, how many hours did Larissa actually spend one-on-one with Brian? I'm guessing it couldn't have been more than 36.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 2:20 pm
I think Adam is clearly just trying to camouflage his face. Maybe he has bad acne scars or a very weak looking jaw? It's hard to say for sure, but it is definately not because he couldn't be bothered to try to look presentable. After the truly terrible editing of the Larissa eps. I'm not sure I'm going to bother to watch Adams. I'll what competes for TiVo space that night and decide then...
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Peepinagain
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 2:48 pm
I'm over all of it. I knew she was going to pick Gil because they should so much of her and Brian and when they do that the outcome always goes the other way. Unfortunately when they do that you don't get to see any relationship develope. But in this case I don't think there was a relationship there so they could only show Brian more. Oh well she deserves what she got.
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Pannie
Member
08-04-2003
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 2:49 pm
Wonder why she didn't pick Jim over Gil. At least Jim knew how to smile . Jokers.com speculates that Brian was third in line since Jim was rejected at the same airplane hangar as Brian & Gil. So the final 2 were really himbos, Jim & Gil. Talking about kissing, Larissa is probably tracking down Michael Klein !
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 9:10 pm
Wasn't Jim the one who never read a book?
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Luvtrash
Member
07-10-2003
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 1:54 am
"Wasn't Jim the one who never read a book?" I think it was Gil who said he didn't read books. Undoubtedly too many complete sentences for him!
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Eliz87
Member
07-30-2001
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 5:42 am
Yes, and it was Jim too. Larissa asked him what the last book was he read and, after an uncomfortably long blank stare, he replied, "I don't really read," or something like that.
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Chaserla
Member
07-28-2003
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:54 pm
http://www.suntimes.co.za/2004/03/07/backpage/back01.asp Bodice-ripper model couldn't get enough The Back Page Pretty boy Fabio is a horny control freak, says his ex-lover Jealous guy: Fabio With his shoulder-length mane and perfect muscles, Fabio is the world's most famous romance-novel cover model, for many women the dream of a lover. But one girl found him a controlling, sex-crazy nightmare. Now US reality-TV star Larissa Meek has fled from the 44-year-old hunk's mansion in Tarzana, in California's San Fernando Valley. She finally ended the romance when her lover, who is featured on the covers of countless "bodice-ripper" novels, moved another woman into the guesthouse on his estate. A friend says: "Fabio would demand sex a lot, sometimes several times a day. If Larissa refused to give in to his advances, he would become upset and threaten to end their relationship." The crunch came five months after Meek had moved in with Fabio. The friend claims he installed an attractive physical fitness model named Amy Waz in the guesthouse. The friend reveals: "Larissa's personal items were being stored inside the guesthouse. Fabio claimed he and Amy were just friends. But Larissa suspected there was a lot more going on behind her back. She was ready to jump at the first opportunity to get out of his grip. She did when she was selected to star on a TV programme, Average Joe: Hawaii." The hit reality show is a type of blind-date programme, where a woman picks herself a man. The friend adds: "One can only hope the guy Larissa chooses treats her better than Fabio did!" The friend goes on: "Fabio portrays himself as this big-hearted lover who respects women. But I think he is a big phoney. In the beginning of a relationship, he really is a gentleman. "But, as soon as Fabio knows he has won her heart, he turns into a controlling womaniser." Meek started dating Fabio after he spotted her in a Hollywood gym. Her friend says: "Fabio claimed it was love at first sight. He immediately stopped what he was doing, approached Larissa and started a conversation. "She mentioned she was a cocktail waitress at the Skybar, West Hollywood. A few nights later, Fabio showed up there and started wooing her. Their relationship progressed at record speed. "After their third date, Fabio was telling Larissa he had fallen hopelessly in love with her and wanted to take care of her for the rest of their lives. To her, it seemed like a tale out of a romance novel." The friend goes on: "Within two weeks, Fabio had managed to convince Larissa to move into his house. He also encouraged her to quit her job. This was because he is very jealous of other men. "Larissa knew it was a big step, but she really believed Fabio was her prince. Since she had left her job, Larissa was totally dependent on him for money. "Larissa would need cash for the most basic things and Fabio would grill her about the cost before he would give her the money. It seemed like he wanted total control over her. Larissa played the role of housewife, cooking, cleaning and doing Fabio's laundry. But nothing she did was good enough. He treated her more like a servant than a girlfriend." Fabio replies: "Relationships don't always work out, and that's what happened to us. Our breakup was very amicable, and I will always have a special place in my heart for her." - Planet Syndication
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 5:19 pm
And what have we learned from reading the above article? Say it with me: "Even beautiful women have low self-esteem." You know, if this was the late 80's/early 90's when Fabio was a huge "star" I could understand Larissa being lured in by this guy. But come on, she's couldn't tell he had a huge ego? She became financially dependent on him? She stayed even after he moved another woman in the house? You know, none of the guys she rejected should feel bad. Obviously Larissa isn't at a place in her life yet when she can tell a good guy from a "bad" one. Good gravy! Why am I still caring about this? Thanks for the article, Chaserla.
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Peepinagain
Member
07-18-2002
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 12:48 pm
I have to say that there really wasn't a lot to choose from. I mean the hunks they brought in looked good but were sorely lacking in all other areas. Although the guy from Boston was one of the best of the average joes, if she wasn't attracted to him then thats a problem. I found him very charming and he got more attractive as the show went on. But by the end there wasn't anyone she could have picked that would have been a lasting relationship for her. I also like the artist guy except the whole facial shaving thing would end up being too much for me in the long run.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 2:40 pm
quote:"After their third date, Fabio was telling Larissa he had fallen hopelessly in love with her and wanted to take care of her for the rest of their lives. To her, it seemed like a tale out of a romance novel."
Um... I may be a tad bit on the cynical side, but how many of YOU would think your "prince" had just arrived on a white steed, would believe something a man says after the third date, and would quit your job and your life as you knew it to be with said "prince"? I don't know about y'all, but if my "prince" said that to me, he'd be picking me up off the ground cause I'd be laughing so hard I'd fall over!
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Chaserla
Member
07-28-2003
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 4:19 pm
That is what I was thinking when I read the article but I would of run for hills as fast as I could! Larissa must of known of his fame, if that is what you want to call it, now I wonder what her true intentions were especially after the conversation with Fredo about using opportunities. Also this would be an explanation for Gil's behaviour at hearing of the relationship between Larissa and Fabio. Just don't know the timeline
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 5:24 pm
Well and Larissa also said on the show that she "realized she was in the relationship for the wrong reasons" which made me think she was staying for the "fame" and the money and the lifestyle. It resonated with me because of my own experience dating a television personality who I was not attracted to.
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