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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:15 pm
What a great ending to this show! I am balling! I think these people were brought together to help eachother. I am so happy for all of them!
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 11:38 pm
It was a nice ending. I almost feel for bad for Traci. When her fiancé was saying, "What are my parents going to think?" (or whatever he said), it became apparent she's going to have sacrifice a lot and not be able to be herself if she is marrying this guy. I hope the money and the security are worth it. I wonder if, now that the show has aired, how it did go over with everyone in her life. Staging the talk show and throwing Trishelle's problems in her face like that doesn't help anyone. It was sad. The dinner--the things said about Rob and what Rob said to Erik was all very cool. I can't get the shot of Ron's turtle's poop out of my head!
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Monday, February 23, 2004 - 12:12 am
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed this last episode. It was great to see alot of their problems among each other resolved. Rob's speech to Erik about how he felt and about how his brother had left him . . well, I couldn't help but think that was the hole in his heart that Tammy spoke about. Beach ~ I hear everything you're saying. The whole time that Tammy wasn't judging these people, like Ron, I couldn't help but think 'well how can she after what she participated in'. I really enjoyed seeing another side to her on this show but I also was thinking about her past the entire time and wondering why she's never really accepted any responsibility for it. I agree, Pamy, that I think these people really helped each other although I totally understood why Erik was done and more then ready to go home to his 'normal' family, lol. As for Trishelle, I do think she has a serious drinking problem that goes way beyond what most people her age do and she needs to address it. It's not that older people are old fogeys who have forgotten what it's like to be her age. It's that they speak from experience from what they've seen happen in their lifetime to friends, family members, etc., who couldn't control their actions when drunk.
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Whoami
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08-03-2001
| Monday, February 23, 2004 - 1:23 am
I think you're right about Trishelle Kappy. And, I think she knows it on some level. Otherwise, I don't think she would have gotten so upset when she watched that footage of her being drunk.
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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Monday, February 23, 2004 - 1:50 am
I remember seeing the gawdy life of Tammy Faye. I also remember the stories of this and that. We made fun of those two like mad. I never have bought into that prosperity b.s. of tv preachers. That being said, I don't think Tammy Faye truly knew what was going on. She's always seemed like she took the role of 'submit unto your husband' and wasn't told much. At first, this wasn't the case, but seeing how she has been all these years later, I believe it. She's not been in any trouble again, like con artists tend to be. I've never seen anything official on her being a knowing participant, but I can't imagine why she wouldn't have done some time too, if this were the case. There was just too much fraud to ignore, even with a deal. I dunno. Post some links to court stuff in my folder, if you have any? I couldn't find much of anything including any court papers. Now, WTF was with SJR? Is she so hard up for work that she agreed ambushing these hamsters was a great idea? While I'm no fan of Trishelle, I thought SJR needed an ass-whoopin'. JMO. I did have to laugh when Eric was trying to calm the girl down by lauding all of the accomplishment. Accomplishment?!? They aren't building homes for Habitat For Humanity! That was funny. Well, on to another cast! Do you think they'll do it again? Hope so. I wonder if Tracy's engagement will hold? Hmm....
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, February 23, 2004 - 3:23 am
Where did I read the producers of this show had 150+ celebs to choose from? I know I saw it somewhere. With so many people willing to do this gig, there has got to be a 3rd season of this show.
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Ohiomobprincess
Member
11-07-2003
| Monday, February 23, 2004 - 7:40 am
I also enjoyed the last episode. I actually came to care about the cast. I'm glad someone finally called Trishelle on her behavior. I'm sorry I know several young college students and they don't act like her. She has a drinking problem and she acts like a s!ut. It's clear that her issues stem from losing her mother at such a young age. I hope a caring psychologist offers to help her out. I think she's a good person who just needs professional help. Traci's fiance knew what he was getting himself into when he proposed, now his family is another story. I also gave into temptation and checked out Ron's pictures. I also feel like I need to shower in 300 degree water, but he is well-endowed.
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Spoiledduchess
Member
09-25-2003
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 2:33 am
I loved this show! Didn't like the first season, but LOVED this one! I feel they all walked away from this a little bit better and accepting. First, I agrees with what Beach and Kappy said 100% about Tammy Faye. I think she is far from innocent, but hopefully that whole thing taught her to be a better person. What I liked the most about her is how she would stand up for her roommates when they were being trashed. The whole "Trashelle" thing. I think it could have been enlightening to show her some of the out of control footage of her being drunk, but the format they did it in ( a room full of strangers) was wrong. That is a hard pill to swallow for anyone that has a problem like that. The format they chose I think would do more harm than good. That was the worst intervention ever. If they had to do that, it should have been her family, friends, and or roommates. Even tho she is out of control, I thought it was a bit touching to see her roommates "cover" for her. Traci...she has a fiance'...she sits on Ron's lap bottomless...enough said. I'm just curious if she's still engaged. Ron, nice (but perverted)guy. Guess thats good for his industry...maybe he can hook "Trashelle' up with the right people. Rob and Erik, I hope those 2 stay close. I think Erik was agreat influence on Rob. I hope after this experience Rob embraces his past...you don't have to love it, but accept it as a part of you. I think of all of them Rob grew the most, he needed it. I started watching not caring much about him, but now I honestly hope he has a happy and successful future. As for Erik...twinkle...gotta love him. What a cool guy. He really held the group together. Thats my 2 cents thanks for listening .
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 7:54 am
Does anyone know if the finale will be repeated? I missed it! Darn!!
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Conejo
Member
08-23-2002
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 8:56 am
Resortgirl, I seem to remember seeing that the final episode will be aired again on Thursday.
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Lorry
Member
07-27-2003
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 9:45 am
Just have to add my thoughts about the show. I don't know about the problems Tammy had with Jim Bakker, or the troubles that took place. I can only judge her on what I saw on this show. She was the one that I would be most interested in meeting in person... duh... like I would ever get the chance...hehe I felt they all were basically good people. I learned to not judge people... like Ron Jeremy. What a nice guy he turned out to be. Traci and Trishelle, they just struck me as young girls alone in a big and sometimes ugly world. You know, you can have a ton of people around you, but if none of them care about you... well, it can be lonely. I wish them both the best of luck. I don't think Rob VanWinkle will have a problem in finally coming to terms with his past. I think he and Erik will remain friends and that can only be to his benefit. Erik Estrada... what a fine man. Need I say more?
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 4:41 pm
I agree with nearly everything you've all said above. I really liked these people by the end of the show (now whether I'd want to live with them is another story--Erik had a good point there!). I just wanted to add that I thought the whole SJR show was a really cheap shot at people who weren't expecting to be attacked. I felt like she picked on Trishelle and Rob the most. She hardly said anything to Tammy or Erik! The thing I found extremely ironic, is that I remember reading several years ago that SJR had a daughter who died of an accidental overdose of drugs and alcohol. You'd think someone who had been through a personal experience of that kind would have a little more compassion for others. Especially for a young girl who seems to be headed down the same path. For her to use the excuse that she's just "doing my job" by hurting people is just ridiculous. She's a mean, hateful person!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 4:53 pm
Here's the info from Biography.com: "Just when Raphael’s career was at its peak, and she could finally begin to enjoy her success, tragedy struck her family. In the winter of 1992, her 19-year-old adopted son, J.J., was in a serious automobile accident. J.J. remained in a coma for three weeks and just as he emerged, Raphael and Soderlund received word from their executive producer, Burt Dubrow, that Raphael’s eldest daughter, Allison, had died of respiratory arrest, induced by a combination of alcohol and legally prescribed back pain medication. "Raphael was traumatized and immediately cancelled the taping of her show for an indefinite period. She had enjoyed a very close, but challenging, relationship with Allison, who always struggled to live up to what she believed were her mother’s expectations. Raphael later told People magazine, 'There's no solace, no comfort. There is going to be an ache as long as my body is alive.'" Here's the link: http://www.biography.com/search/article.jsp?aid=9542188&page=3&search= As I said above, you'd think she'd have a little more compassion for someone who's been through that with her own daughter.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 4:57 pm
And I'm thinking the exact opposite: since she lost a daughter to drug/alcohol abuse I'd expect her to be very blunt about the problem, not tolerant of it. She may see a train wreck about to happen and isn't afraid to speak up. That said, I do think it was unfair of the show to ambush Trishelle that way. Embarrassing her on television isn't going to help her figure out that she drinks too much.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 6:04 pm
Brenda, that's all I was trying to say. I, too, think Trishelle has a big problem, but I was just saying you'd think SJR could show a little more compassion and not be so attacking. I felt like she was attacking each of the houseguests in the name of "entertainment." Trishelle needs to be confronted about her behavior, but by people who love and care about her and in a more private forum. SJR's confrontation was not meant to help her but to embarrass her and to entertain the audience. I just thought it was a cheap shot.
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Sweetbabygirl
Member
08-31-2002
| Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 5:24 pm
Although I agreed wholeheartedly with what SJR said, I believe that Trishelle's 'friends' or family members should be the ones to tell her, privately....the "I'm 23 and young" line is so tired and pathetic. Like Erik said, if she continues behaving this way she will be dried up in ten years. Sigh....I'm gonna miss Erik, he, Ron and Tammy Faye were the bright spots this season, and I hope they remain friends.
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Sweetbabygirl
Member
08-31-2002
| Wednesday, February 25, 2004 - 5:58 pm
Forgot to mention....cried like a baby at Rob's speech to Erik, that was so sweet!!
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 2:34 pm
Fantastic show, I loved the first one and loved this one. I loved how Rob ws telling Trishelle that she's like a teen idol now, lmao... of course Trishelle has a serious drinking problem, hopefully she'll realize it. Funny how she said she's not doing reality tv anymore, I was like RIGHT! Now was this before the inferno or after? I also LOVED how Rob admitted to being wrong when Traci confronted him about the trash talking, that was great that he said "you are right" and apologized, it could've turned ugly but he realized that he had hurt her and at first he started talking about that stupid "eating your daughter" comment she said, but that was in the past, he showed he has great character. I, of course was crying also, the speech to Erik was beautiful, I laughed and cried throughout this show. Reality tv can be so awesome!
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Bakerygirl
Member
11-03-2002
| Friday, February 27, 2004 - 5:41 pm
I seen Traci with her fiance at Carmen and Dave's wedding on MTV. Not sure when it was filmed, but I'm sure it was after surreal life. Guess they are still together..
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Dee
Member
08-08-2000
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 7:39 pm
I didn't know the show was over! I only saw about 4 episodes because I kept forgetting to find it on TV. Tammy Faye is on Larry King's show right now, saying she has inoperable lung cancer. The docs are going to do radiation and chemotherapy, though. I hope she makes it.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 7:56 pm
Oh, Dee! I'm so sorry to hear that! Poor Tammy Faye. Was she ever a smoker? I know people can get lung cancer who've never smoked, but smoking is the most common cause. I'm so sorry for her and her family. My dad passed away from lung cancer 15 years ago. He had smoked for 40-odd years and quit 5 years earlier--too late. We found out in April he had inoperable cancer and he died four months later. It's a terrible way to go. My heart goes out to her.
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Dee
Member
08-08-2000
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 7:59 pm
p.s. Tammy said she spoke with Ron Jeremy last week... He knew about the cancer and he told her something like, "I don't know how far my prayers will be listened to up in heaven but I wanted you to know that I am praying for you." What a sweetie.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 8:00 pm
It is so sad. I'm watching it now. Tammy said the crew from SL all sent her a "book" where they had each written a prayer.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 8:07 pm
I think that is sweet of them, I feel this whole cast made each other a better person. I pray Tammy gets well, I feel in love with her watching this show!
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 8:11 pm
Babyjaxmom: No, she wasn't a smoker. She had colon cancer years ago. Even though it had been removed, there was, apparently, still cancer left that spread to her lungs over the last eight years. I'm watching Larry King too. It really is kind of sad. But a part of me wonders if all the people who were hurt by the PTL are thinking her cancer is some sort of karma. I very much remember the scene when she mentioned having a dead body strapped to one's back. I thought she was talking about Jim. I was surprised she was thinking of Jerry Fawell. (I can't stand Jerry Fawell.)
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