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Marymc
| Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 7:26 pm
i still want to see "average jane"....like THAT would ever happen. (insert sarcastic snort here)
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Wendo
| Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 7:32 pm
Funny, I was just thinking about this very topic, the difference between women who choose versus men who choose on these reality shows. Up to this point, women who choose have been more successful regarding the relationship. I don't think it means "women are better than men". But I do think there are different variables, including some of the thoughts above. Another possibility is that the men may like the attention they receive while the show is on. And, receive attention from women they didn't before. Heck, I think that's the case for Bob at the very least. Interesting though.
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Faerygdds
| Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 8:45 pm
My mother and I have had that same discussion. We tend to agree with one poster above that men tend to look for different things in women than women look for in men. What that is I don't know. Another thought is that maybe the women that they are finding on these shows are a little TOO independant for some of the guys to handle. I don't really know. But it IS interesting food for thought!
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Scribe
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 6:21 am
Speaking of caput couples - what was the deal with Estella and Bob? They were reported broken up as a couple yet as of the Trist/Ryan spectacular they were present arm in arm with BG kissing the lady?
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Fruitbat
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 6:42 am
They officially announced the breakup just days ago and I think it was because the cat was out of the bag. The plan was probably to wait until after the wedding since they had been invited and ABC wanted them there. Their apparent rapport must have been for the camera in hopes of peddling the amicable break up story. And they may, indeed, be ok with it. I am not sure I think Estella is thrilled but what can you do?
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Realfan
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 10:45 am
Fruitbat, is it official now that they've broken up? Has Bob or Estella said anything about it publically (or just to friends, which we've already heard)? I musta missed that. Did anyone else see the People magazine ad during the Trista/Ryan wedding? Besides them, it showed a pic of Jen and Andrew in the top right cover. My husband saw the words "shocking split!" Does anyone know if this refers to them? I hope not. But at least they gave it a genuine try... Maybe it refers to Bob and Estella, but that's about as shocking as watching paint dry.
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Denecee
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 11:13 am
Realfan, I did read somewhere that Jen and Andrew broke up. Estella did not look very happy at Trista/Ryan's wedding.
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Fruitbat
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 11:57 am
Yes it is official. It is all over the place for both couples.
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Pantageas
| Thursday, December 11, 2003 - 1:07 pm
MaryMc - They could do an "Average Jane" show. It would work just like Average Joe did: 1) They'd start by bringing on all these smart, fun-loving, intelligent women who don't happen to meet society's conventions on beauty. 2) Our Suitor would meet, greet and get to know all the Janes. 3) Then the producers would offer to bring in bikini models, playmates and potential porn stars. 4) Our Suitor then methodically dismisses the Janes for the new women with whom he "feels more of a connection". The End
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Marymc
| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 11:19 am
BINGO pantageas....and who wants to see that? (since we see it every day anyway......)
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Pantageas
| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 11:48 am
Ha ha! But people seemed to watch it on 'Average Joe'. Melina was just as bad. When my wife told me that they'd brought in 'models' for the girl, I told her "watch now - the producers will ask her to carry at least one of the joes to the Final 2, but in the end she'll pick a prettyboy". Whether they do an Average Joe 2 or an Average Jane, the people they tend to cast for these things are people who will choose the prettyboy or the kewpie doll. That's why so many on these things fail. P.S. - I've got a standing bet with my wife that a certain freshly married Bachelorette is bacheloretting again in less than 5 years...
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Fruitbat
| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 11:56 am
That is a long bet. I would put my money on it working.
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Scorpiomoon
| Friday, December 12, 2003 - 12:15 pm
I agree with Fruitbat. There's something between Trista and Ryan--a certain chemistry and a certain "being on the same level" vibe--that none of the others seem to have. I think they will stay together. P.S: But then again, I thought Andrew Firestone and the woman he chose had the same "vibe" as well.
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Alisons
| Saturday, December 13, 2003 - 3:01 pm
Well, now Andrew can see if it will work out with Kirsten - I bet she would not have been so quick to give up on all that lovely Firestone money!
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Rslover
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 11:33 am
'Cupid' duo Lisa Shannon and Hank Stapleton still together despite $1,000,000 veto More Cupid News By Wade Paulsen, 12/23/2003 Maybe the solution to the dearth of romance in reality-dating shows is simply to let the women pick their potential husbands, instead of vice versa. Through four episodes of ABC's The Bachelor, the score stands Couples 0, Breakups 4, as each of the bachelors seemed eager to dump his bride-to-be to get back to chasing skirts. Only The Bachelorette produced a lasting romance ... including the first reality TV wedding, one aided by a million-dollar dowry. Additionally, recent reports say that For Love Or Money 2 couple Erin Brodie and Chad Viggiano have moved in together, perhaps aided by their prize winnings (about 1/4 mil for Chad and three times that for Erin). There is one other reality-dating couple (again, with the woman making the selection, although the viewing audience had to ratify it) that is still together -- and it may be the most unlikely one of all, because the couple left $1 million waiting at the altar. According to the Detroit News, Lisa Shannon, the star of CBS' Cupid, and her beau Hank Stapleton now live together at Hank's apartment in Chicago, with frequent visits to Lisa's family in suburban Detroit. Neither Lisa, 26, an advertising copywriter, nor Hank, 25, an options trader, have worked since the conclusion of Cupid in September -- although both intend to look for work in January. Instead, they have spent their time visiting friends and sharing experiences, such as their visit to Hank's old school in October. Frankly, they've made a much more romantic life for themselves so far than Cupid offered with its "quickie" marriage. Are there any regrets about passing up the money after spending three months together anyway? Not yet. Says Lisa, "One million dollars is not an incentive to throw your life away." Hank agrees. adding, "We discussed it, and Lisa had no interest in getting married for the money and neither did I." As that statement might indicate, Lisa appears to be the primary decision-maker in the pair. Hank notes, ""I know I should be apprehensive, but I'm not. She's very driven and knows what she wants, and we'll be fine." So, has Lisa decided that she might like to follow Bachelorette couple Trista and Ryan down the aisle, money or no money? Again, not yet. "It's too early to tell," she says. It's also too soon to tell whether she will ever again be close with her galpals Laura Restum and Kim Tartar, who gave her advice during the six-month commitment of Cupid; they haven't talked since shortly after the end of the show. However, Lisa has no doubt that this isn't the end of the line for the trio: "We'll stay friends because we went through an experience very few people go through." Or would want to go through.
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Eliz87
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 11:52 am
That's interesting that Lisa hasn't spoken with Laura or Kim since the end of the show. Isn't that strange?
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Scorpiomoon
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 12:40 pm
I wonder if Wade Paulsen has been lurking around here and reading this thread. Eliz87: It is strange. But then again, maybe because they spent so much time together during hte production of the show they got sick of each other and needed a break.
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Konamouse
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 12:53 pm
Or maybe they haven't spoken much because they really weren't as close of friends as the producers wanted the viewing public to think they were. I thought one of them was her hairdresser? 'squeek'
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Scorpiomoon
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 3:09 pm
That could be very, very true Konamouse. And if so, it kind of makes you wonder, did this woman have friends who didn't want to be on TV, did she have friends the producers thought wouldn't look good on TV, or did she not have any friends?
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Alisons
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 8:24 pm
They just replayed "Real World - Las Vegas" this week, and I couldn't help but wonder if Kelly and Peter are still together. Anyone have word on that one??
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Konamouse
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 9:18 pm
I'm sure Lisa has real friends, but who could be better than her hairdresser (who gets the Simon award for her comments).
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Guinevere
| Sunday, January 04, 2004 - 11:46 pm
Alisons, do you mean Kelly from Real World New Orleans? If so, no, she's now engaged to Scott Wolf, who was Bailey on "Party of Five".
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Brenda1966
| Monday, January 05, 2004 - 1:19 pm
Us magazine had a blurb on the reality show couples still together: Mr. Personality -- they live in different states but still travel to see each other. Love or Money 2 - Erin and Chad are together and possibly moving in together.
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Alisons
| Monday, January 05, 2004 - 7:14 pm
Guinevere - thanks - that is exactly what I meant! They had Real World marathons of both Las Vegas and New Orleans and since I was home with the stomach flu, I watched all of both! Combined with a fever, it was all running together! ; )
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Seamonkey
| Wednesday, January 07, 2004 - 4:34 pm
On the John Walsh show tomorrow they promo'd having Erin and something about the Cupid people.. and probably more but that's what I saw in a flash.. at the end of today's show. Show is on NBC in LA.. not sure about other areas.
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