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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:08 am
it's funny because I think this episode was more realistic business practice (from the women) than the previous shows. Last week was embarrassing with the women jumping around and dancing and begging. But this week they did have the right idea to go for selling drinks because it has the highest profit margin. And dressing in tight shirts and showing bellies is not uncommon at all in an "alcohol environment". As they even cited - look at Hooters. And most bars I've been in the women dress sexy (halters or short tight shirts and low rise pants) and usually do shots with the customers. I guess the difference is that the manager pointed it out that it is against policy to drink while working. (although they could have gotten around that by having the bartender make them a non-alcoholic shot). I definitely didn't like the guys approach with misleading (not lying, but definitely misleading) people. I'm sure with all the cameras around, people did think he was someone famous.
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Crossfire
Member
04-02-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:55 am
I find myself in agreement with pretty much everyone tonight. I started out really liking this show, but my enthusiasm is being drained. They waste too much time on the trivial tasks, and the clashing personalities, and not enough on the interesting stuff which to me, is generally a few minutes at the start, and the last fifteen minutes or so. Its frustrating in that the parts that are good, are really good, the rest kind of stinks. This is turning out to be like big brother in business suits, which is not quite what I was expecting. I thought there was going to be a lot more interaction with Trump...them working directly for Trump, and having him be a hard to please prick with lots of lessons and a peek into his world. The way they are behaving, I am almost shocked that the guys and gals are not going on endlessly about their hotness and hooking up with each other. Pardon the rantiness of this, just in a funky mood I guess.
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Hermione69
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 6:18 am
"big brother in business suits" ROFL! Good one!
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Marameko
Member
04-30-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 9:51 am
Where 's the business savvy, the MBA training ? I thought these people were supposed to be so bright? Their antics for the most part were unimpressive, the one bright spot was when the female restaurant owner suggested they push shoots. They should have known better not to drink on the job. DUHHHHH
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:59 am
I was glad to see that at least some of the women had enough sense to be embarrassed by their behavior (or at least by being called out on it). It will be interesting to see them use something other than their sexuality in this game. Beachcomber, I thought Bowie's exiting comments were very good too. The way things were going last night, I was sure Nick was going to get the axe. As for the women drinking on the job, I have three friends that are bartenders and they all drink on the job. They don't get drunk but they do drink. They say it makes a big difference in your tips. As long as you don't overdo it, management doesn't frown on it either. They all work for different establishments.
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:02 am
Marameko, my answer to your question re business savvy/MBA training... these contestants can't seem to be able to bring themselves down to the lower levels, which are what the contests are on. I find with all new/fairly new graduates is that they feel above the menial, and therefore cannot complete a task due to this.
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Deesandy
Member
09-27-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:35 am
I think it was wrong for them to state that using sex to get the job done would not get them the final job at the end. After all, they set the standard by choosing the women to win the advertising competition which was ALL about SEX. Double standards are being set here... As for drinking on the job...are you seriously going to expect us to believe that Donny baby never sealed the deal over a cocktail lunch?
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Maris
Member
03-27-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:38 am
DJ, have you seen the Fedex commercial where they guy explains how he is an MBA??? It is a riot.
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Bananaclip
Member
09-18-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:47 am
Donald Trump said he has never had a drink of alcohol or a cigarette in his life. I think he was on Good Day Live when he said that.
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:53 am
Maris - I LOVE that commercial!!!!!
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Yuhuru
Member
02-03-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:55 am
I'm definitely in the moniority. I still really like the show. In the participants defense, the challenges seem to be a bit entry level(for lack of a better term). There so out of their element on some of these things if you look at their bios. If you coordinate beauty pageants, how do you know how to woo people off the street and into Planet Hollywood of all places. I thought that place was on its way down. They couldn't have gotten me in there, especially not to buy a shirt even if KWAME JACKSON was handing out autographs. Has DT ever sold lemonade on the street? Probably not and I'm not sure how good he'd be at it. I think it's a great exercise for them to get more experience with dealing with other business people, business and consumers. I love the board room. They should show more of it. Anyway, I still love the show. I can't way to see what the teams look like next week.
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:29 pm
Yuhuru - I too am looking forward to the new teams. It'll sure be interesting to see how they all interact together!
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Realfan
Member
12-17-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 1:27 pm
I enjoy the show, too, Yuhuru. I think the merge came at just the right time. So nice to see Omarosa realize that she could meet the girls halfway if she tried a little. The jobs are interesting--ground level, basic stuff but if managed right, they can show they're thinking outside the box (so to speak). The men really screwed up in not researching where the greatest profit margin was. They had an extra day to prepare, too! (probably to offset their lower numbers). The ball selling bordered on the unethical except you know it's now a really cool souvenir because it was on The Apprentice, a national TV show produced by Mark Burnett!! So no one really got robbed. Kid could sell the thing on eBay for a huge profit.
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Auntiemike
Member
05-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:07 pm
I don't get it: how misleading is it to sell autographs by someone who did not proclaim to be anyone famous as opposed to women selling their product with their bodies and "promises" of their sexuality? I think they both crossed the lines. So far I see the teams as pretty even in their mistakes and approaches. I would like to see the men win one and take the smile/smirks off the faces of the "ladies". I like all the analyzing that goes on in the board room at the end. Made me think about some things I had missed or perceived differently.
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:14 pm
Auntiemike, speaking of smirking - did anyone notice the smirk on Nick's face when Bowie got canned? I didn't really haven't too much against him up until that point. Ugh, I don't like smirkers! Smirking, bad. Smiling, good!
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Auntiemike
Member
05-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:25 pm
Yah, Zules, I had really hoped that Nick was on his way out 'cause of his attitude. He wants to show that he doesn't need anyone to succeed yet that destroys the very premise of working together for success as these teams are asked to do. His smirk will get him in the end. Smiling with relief is soooooo much more different than smirking with arrogance. KEEP SMILING!!! :-)
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:34 pm
"Smiling with relief is soooooo much more different than smirking with arrogance." Exactly what I meant. Thanks for reading my mind AuntieMike!
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Hobbs
Member
06-27-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 3:12 pm
The problem with entrepreneurs is that they want to do everything themselves. (My boss is like that.) They don't know how to delegate. The teams were to manage the restaurant, not work at the restaurant. The only management I saw was the girl who tried the appetizer tables downstairs and when the men had the idea for the sales bonuses for the employees.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
02-14-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 3:18 pm
Zules, that's the one comment I remember making to DH last night when DT gave Bowie the boot, "Look at that smug smirk on Nick's face!" It was really obnoxious. I really didn't dislike him up till that moment, but that self-satisfied smirk just turned my stomach! I hope he gets his come-uppance next week! Glad they're combining the teams. I was happy to see the women win the first couple of weeks, but now I just feel sorry for the guys! Bowie's exit speech was very classy.
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Ketchuplover
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 4:11 pm
If I was one of the male players I'd seriously consider a makeover(gender reassignment)
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Barbiemouse
Member
01-16-2004
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 5:03 pm
OK, I liked the show last night. What I thought of when the men did the basketball signing thing, was that sounds like something Sam would have thought up. Now,you know that if Sam was still there and had suggested it, it would have been quickly tossed aside. Seems the men had a mission to get rid of Sam, then once he is gone it is OK to do things that border on the ethical. It also struck me as slightly racist that Kwame was the autograph signer. Why him, because he is a tall, athletic, black man? Why not Troy, it was his idea after all. No, they knew that to get the idea that he was some sort of professional sports athlete, they had to use the stereotype. I thought Nick was right on about distancing himself from that situation. I would like to have heard what Donald had to say about it. I am sure he did, but they edited it out. I was hoping the women would lose and learn that you can't always use sex to sell, but this was actually the right arena to use it. Of course wearing tight shirt with their tummies showing will help sell the booze. I do think they should have been using non-alcholic shots though. Very unprofessional to be drinking on the job. I know some of you have posted that you know people who do this, but that is a different situation. Those people actually work in the bar on a regular basis and depend on those tips to make a living. As long as they don't get drunk and then go out and hit someone, and their management doesn't object, so be it. But the people on this show are shooting for a top spot with a Donald Trump company. Yes there will be deals closed over dinner and drinks or with beer on the golf course. But I can bet there aren't too many deals settled over who can do the most shots at Planet Hollywood. That is just a drinking game and does not belong in a professional environment.
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Mocha
Member
12-03-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 5:35 pm
Barbie, I don't think it was racist to have Kwame signing autographs. They chose Kwame because of the newest/hottest basketball player Kwame Brown. Now maybe if they had someone who's name is close to Larry Byrd or something they would've used them instead.
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Denecee
Member
11-18-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 5:45 pm
Dang, I have been so busy here at work that I haven't been able to tell everybody how much I love this show and make comments. The only thing I would like to add in the short time I have to post this is: I really like DT's right hand lady(can't think of her name)she is tactful and very smart. I can't remember what her position in the trump world is, does anybody else? I like how she gets her comments out there too. I love the board room too!!
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Realfan
Member
12-17-2002
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 5:47 pm
Carolyn, I think is her name. She's kewl, isn't she? I like DT's right HAND, when he fires someone!
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Mocha
Member
12-03-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 5:50 pm
Oh shoot I forgot to mention that I still love this show and the boardroom. Also glad Carolyn's now speaking more. I like her and the other guy.
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