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Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's on.

Bastable

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, Deustch Ad Agency is right by my house. That's my neighborhood! That Citibank at the bottom of the building is where my ATM is. Cool!

I noticed my 'hood in last week's show first. In the middle of the lemonade sales, they showed the ladies crossing Eighth Avenue at 17th Street, right there where the Deustch Building is. The must have shot it when they were doing this task but aired it during last week's premiere because of whatever was in the footage. I guess it proves that they shuffle the footage among episodes depending on what looks the most dramatic. Because they didn't end up selling lemonade anywhere near here.

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Neat.

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dang, I know less than nothing about marketing, but these people are making me uncomfortable.

How can they be sending teams off for pics and stuff if they don't know what they are doing? I'd need at least a sketch or something that looked like a plan. But then as I said, I know less than nothing about this.

Maris

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Do you believe this stuff. I am beginning to think that Tammy's objective is to get inside Donalds pants. I would throw them out of my office if I was the airline.

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I see what you mean.

I fit in, but...but will anyone notice?

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The guys were too generic, something that was on the no-no list.

Maris

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I cant believe they picked the women's campaign. There is thinking outside the box and then there is being so out of touch with your client. Do they really think any corporate client is going to go with a phallic advertising campaign?

Sweetbabygirl

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's a question....when will the women think with the brains, instead of their "boxes"? Dang, does every task have to be sex related!!

I don't care for Ereka (too emotional), but I can't believe that Omarosa got upset at the "pot calling the kettle black" comment....sheesh, it had absolutely NOTHING to do with race!!

Sam needs to go....I can't believe he slept at the frickin' meeting and that he actually owns a company; truly scary.

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I wouldn't know, but there is the common phrase that sex sells.

I do know that for whatever reason, they seem not to think there are female executives.

Rslover

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jason has got to go! Last week he interupted Donald. Now he is working on an ad campaign and thinks it is not necessary to meet the client. Duh? Earth to Jason. Donald is going to love that. The best idea was to separate Omarosa from Ereka. I like Ereka and she is obviously coming up with good ideas. Omarosa should get back on her high horse and ride out of town. She insulted the others because she didn't like their ideas. Then, the women actually beat the men I didn't see Omarosa eating her hat. Donnie Deutsch was right about setting the women's movement back years. But, sex sells and really both ads were sexist. "When my husband goes away on a business trip".. Omarosa is now arguing with Ereka. She misunderstood her comment about the pot calling the kettle black. She didn't get it and is implying that Ereka was making a racist statement. LOL I love this show.

Rslover

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yippe!! Jason's gone!! I agree it would be nice to see the women not using sex to sell.
Just thinking how ironic it is that Omarosa who didn't like their ad campaigan was the one who suggested the name Donald's Darlings.

Crossfire

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, is there ever a lot of fighting going on. I don't think I've actually yelled at anyone in years. I couldn't work like that. I like either a buttoned down to the point environment, or a loose one. Not one loaded with stress and conflict.

Good comments RS.

Rslover

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let's face it, a bunch of strangers with different backgrounds working on a project with a deadline. That spells CONFLICT. Hmmmm, wondering if the producers are edging them on for some drama. Wouldn't that be surprising? hee hee.

Ketchuplover

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoever said that they're going to keep Sam around for drama/ratings sure has it right.

Maris

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
See I think The Don likes to keep Sam around because Sam is the kind of guy he likes. He is obnoxious, does things his way and the world be damned.......sound familiar?

Omarosa? I liked her going into this show but by the end of the show I was screaming get rid of this girl. When she pulled that crap over the pot calling the kettle, that was it for me. Talk about using the race card.

These women are all shameful and make me embarrassed to watch them.

Missy2

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sam was ridiculous. I think Trump said this is a tough but you're fired to Jason - so that leads me to believe he also wants to get rid of that creepy little Sam.

I was very disappointed in Omarosa with her racism comment. She seems over the top and desperately trying to get a rise out of the other women.

I thought the men's ad was generic and boring. The women's ad was different and edgy! It's surprising how different the ad campaigns were for the male and female teams! That aspect of the show makes it even more interesting to watch!

oh and....
Hello Jason, Advertising Major, worked for an Ad firm or whatever - what was he thinking?? Not meet with the client?

Lilfair

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Big “O” didn’t even sound convincing when she cried racism. An obtuse leggy big mouth should know that the saying “the pot calling…”has nothing to do with race.

Shame on the Big “O”.

Sam makes me mega nervous. Someone needs to spike his water with Prozac …for my sanity.

I agree with everyone that thinks DT is keeping Sam on for TV’s sake. Although, I think Jason blew it big time and deserved to be fired, not Sam. He won’t last to the end.

I definitely would have remembered the girls’ ad but not the guys. The product is an adult commodity; the implied sexuality in the ad might not have been in good taste but definitely memorable. I wouldn’t expect the ad to be shown in kid’s media.

I’m glad that the PC monster didn’t show its ugly head.

Texannie

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All Sam has essentially done wrong is to be obnoxious. He hasn't cost the team anything with his antics. Jason made a critical error in business judgement.

Pamy

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 9:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
MB probably told Trump to keep Sam for ratings drama..I bet he makes it to final 3 at least

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Damn it, I like Omarosa. I think she has good ideas and has more common sense than the rest of them combined. But she's shooting herself in the foot by reacting so heatedly in these situations. And it's too bad because she'll be known more for her outbursts than her skills and talents.

I can't stand Ereka.

And since you all mentioned it last week, I was paying attention the way the women dressed. Aye yi yi.

I can't help but watch this show with a cynical eye. After all the shameless product placement during MB's "The Restaurant", I can't help but wonder what behind-the-scenes dealings DT is reaping the rewards from by having these companies make guest appearances on his show.

It's not product placement per se, but it all seems a little fishy to me.

Maris

Thursday, January 15, 2004 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What about the way Tammy was sitting in that meeting. how unprofessional was that. The way the women were in the meeting with Deutsch, I was gagging. The thing is, there is no way that guy would have even tolerated that submission if those women worked for him and he paid for their time. He would have gone ballistic.

Whoami

Friday, January 16, 2004 - 12:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm not too fond of Omarosa. It could be all in the editing, but have I heard her once open her mouth where it wasn't whining about not getting her way, or bad mouthing one of the other women? She really lost me with that racism thing too. Now, I'm completely sympathetic with AA people, and how they experience discrimination. I experience a form of it myself in that some assume my competence shrinks in comparison to the size of my backside. But I hate it when people use the race card for sympathy or to gain a power hold. It only makes things worse for people who are truly discriminated against to gain credibility when they need it the most.

By pulling the race care, Omarosa gives AA Women as bad a name as Roseann Barr gave fat women.

I also think Sam needs to go. Nobody that abrasive needs to stick around. His days have to be numbered!

Tabbyking

Friday, January 16, 2004 - 12:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think sam needs a good deal of duct tape on his mouth!

Riviere

Friday, January 16, 2004 - 3:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Finally had the chance to see this mess first 2 episodes.. Sam is laughable, they must see him as the stereotype annoying sleep on the job guy who gets away with murder or what? I can't even express disbelief at Jason not meeting with the ad client! That's like hiring a home designer and giving them your key, never discussing any ideas together on redecorating. The women are just over the top yet it gets results. I had to wonder if some didn't grow up trying to figure out those old Wang commercials that never made sense! A few years ago when political correct madness swept the land, someone thought up some new phrases to avoid the tetchy race subjects insecure folks leap on as insults. I think now the correct term is "the pot calling the kettle hot" and if anyone can find a deck of race cards in that one, it's their own problem. The show annoys me most (so far) for keeping Sam! I used to work with a guy like that, he'd wake up just quick enough to try to take credit for my work. He must be the slacker's hero of the show!