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Cr8ofdata
Member
01-13-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 5:29 am
Ok - I have to speak up... The events were equal. It is how they were handled is what made them seem harder than the other. I am an event director. I do what they did last night on TV. I was amazed that Kwame didn't fire her right on the spot. Bill was asking "15 times" if the job was done, BECAUSE IT WAS NOT DONE YET!!! My staff knows when I call them on the radio, they need to do the task right then, not wait and wait. Amy said at one point that she "would do it when she did it, stop asking" Well, that would have made me very upset. Kwame's team was star struck and none of them were really doing their jobs. Troy (love him) and Heidi did not need to both do the meet and greet. Omo - should not of been taking the star anywhere without telling Kwame. First time a staff of mine is found not answering me on the radio, I take the radio and send them home. Anyway, Bill did shine. Even if he was "freaked out" a bit, when DT was there to play golf - he was calm and cool. Even DT said he seemed very relaxed.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 6:09 am
quote:My theory is the Kwame realized that he would be stuck with Omarosa and also realized that if he chose her last she'd probably go ballistic on him.
And that's pretty much the reason he just gave on the TOday show for choosing her. He knew if she were the "last kid picked for the pick-up basketball game" there was no chance that she would try to do a good job. The Donald also pointed out that Kwame was about the only one on the team who got along with Omarosa, so that may have affected his choice as well. Frankly, I think it was a coin toss as to who did the better job. Both were successful, and both worked well with what they had.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 6:32 am
http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/ Bill Rancic is Trump's Apprentice. Right about now, Bill Rancic is probably very glad that the producers of The Bachelor 3 dropped him after they selected him as a finalist for the show. For one, he's dating Jen Schefft, the woman selected by Andrew Firestone on that show. For two, Bill was selected over Kwame Jackson as Donald Trump's The Apprentice during last night's live conclusion to the series. Trump, who fit in right at home on the SNL set by reading off of cue cards more obviously than Bob Hope reading an eye exam chart, criticized Kwame's failure to fire Omarosa after she lied to him during the challenge. He hired Bill, who, in addition to receiving a Chrysler Crossfire, was given the span of a commercial break to decide what company he wanted to run. Bill chose to stay in his hometown of Chicago, where he'll oversee the construction of the new Trump International Hotel & Tower Chicago, which will be built on the Chicago River footprint of the present Chicago Sun-Times building. Also during the finale, Trump asked some of the fired contestants about; he told Omarosa, "you have too many excuses -- enough with the excuses," and then yelled at her when she interrupted Heidi. Alluding to the n-word incident, Trump told Ereka, "You suffered, you really suffered, because charges were made against you." Sitting next to Omarosa, Ereka said, "she's a liar." Later, Sam offered Trump $250,000 to hire him; Nick said he and Amy "dated briefly" after the show, and they are "not together." For The Apprentice 2, Trump promised "tougher tasks with tighter deadlines" and said "maybe I'll even bring back some familiar faces."
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Immunity_man
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09-26-2003
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 7:04 am
I think that D made the right choice. I like Kwame and he has truck loads of potential, but Bill is a real leader. He gives reassurance. I know that Kwame put a lot of faith in his team to carry out his instructions, but you can't always rely on your employees to do exactly what you tell them, especially when Omarosa is one of them. I always knew that picking Omarosa was a big mistake. Carolyn pointed out exactly what I said last week and that was that Kwame picked her 2nd! He could have argued his point if he had no choice but to pick her. Some of you said that you don't think it's fair that he got blamed for not calling Omarosa out for her lies and getting rid of her because he had no knowledge of what she was doing prior to watching the tapes. I disagree. It would have been blatantly obvious to me that she was lying! I would have sat her butt down and told her to stay out of my way. Also, if I was Kwame I would have let Mark Brown, the GM of the Taj Mahal, have it! I used to work in a hotel conference center and I know that when you tell a banquet captain to set up at 10:00 for breakfast that breakfast BETTER be set up. Even if there is a question mark or loose end it is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOTEL AND ITS MANAGEMENT to confirm with the client what time breakfast should be set up and what the menu should have. I could not believe my ears when I heard Mark Brown the GM tearing into Kwame about not confirming with the banquet staff about breakfast. What kind of service is this?! If I was Kwame, I would have let Mark Brown have it! That may have gotten him the job.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 7:10 am
I watched the Today show and am glad Kwame at least got to explain why he picked O second. (not that it really mattered) I also agree with the fact that the tasks were pretty much equal. Both events were already planned. Neither Bill or Kwame had to organize it. They just had to oversee the details. It was the teams (and leaders) that made the difference. If Kwame was handling the Golf Tourny, the sign probably would have stayed at the dumpster! If Bill was handling the concert, breakfast would have been served properly because he would have asked about it a dozen times. I am most disappointed in Heidi. She had proven that she's capable of more. Don't these people realize that people will be watching the show and see their work ethics??? Even if I knew I couldn't win the contest, I still would have busted my butt. You never know what other opportunities may present themselves. I think it would have made the finally better if Bill was told to pick a few people to work for him! 1) you like to work with people you know; 2) it would have stuck it to the people who slacked figuring they already lost.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 7:13 am
btw - what was Nick doing during the Golf Tourn.? I don't even remember seeing him!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 7:52 am
I really ended up thinking "so what" at the end of this. I have enjoyed this show but I thought this last program was anti-climatic. This just showed the ineptitude of the other Apprentices...truly competent staff wouldn't have had to be micromanaged. Still, I thought Bill did the better job. Kwame seemed to be waiting for someone else to tell him what to do. And its a shame because I really thought Kwame was going to win. I also thought that the staff of the two facilities went out of their way to make it harder on Kwame and Bill...one woman whining about her office, people whining about the model home's garage being used for storage...people not getting the breakfast done on time...was this deliberate? I'll bet they wouldn't have whined like that to the Donald!
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:01 am
Cr8ofdata, I agree with you completely, which is why I have thought that the teammates came along to screw things up for Kwame and Bill. I also think Trump liked Bill the best because Bill's style is closer to Trump's own. Trump could certainly not be described as being cool and calm all the time. I found that point very telling...far better to get ruffled enough so that your people realize the significance of the job than to be laid back and allowing an Omarosa type to walk all over you.
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Jen
Member
07-27-2003
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:28 am
From New York Post Online... One axed contestant, Amy Henry, has already been offered a second chance. "Mr. Trump has offered me a job," Henry told "Access Hollywood." "I don't know if I'm going to work for Trump, though. We still have to negotiate. There are so many opportunities on my plate, both in front and behind the camera." Henry, 30, also continues to quash reports of a steamy romance between herself and co-contestant, Nick Warnock. "Nick and I had a fantastic 'showmance' ," she said. Omarosa, the resident villain from the show, revealed she's been cast to appear in an upcoming commercial for Herbal Essence shampoo. In previous ads for Herbal Essence, women moan as if they are having sex while they wash their hair. Omarosa wouldn't divulge how far she goes in the spot, but admits she doesn't speak much in the ad.
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Spygirl
Member
04-23-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:35 am
Kelly (regis and kelly) cracked me up this morning. "They threatened that Omarosa would come back on the next season.....haven't we all suffered enough as a nation?" I spit out my eggs
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:40 am
Yeah, Immunity Man, I had a problem with moustache guy as well. The guy at the hotel. All he did was complain and frown and push things off on other people. At some point it became ridiculous.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 8:54 am
i was absolutely shocked that it didn't turn out omarosa was a 'plant' on this last venture out. is she really that thick?! she couldn't handle something because she was at dinner?! and then, with trump on the way up, she spirits jessica away as if they are two little giggly schoolgirls, refuses to carry her phone where she might have to answer it, etc. i was going 'right on!' when trump basically told her to just shut it and went on to heidi. her lines in a commercial should include: "excuses, excuses! i got 'em by the bushelfull!" i still think that's why Gore conceded. it was the only way to fire omarosa without being sued! 
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 9:20 am
Yes, Tabby, Omarosa really is that thick. Even now, she will never admit she did anything wrong. Oma cannot do wrong in Oma's world. I knew Omarosa wasn't a plant. She's just the way she is. Especially after reading articles about how she was fired repeatedly from the White House and Commerce Dept. jobs. I believe she has narcissistic personality disorder. Can't admit she is ever in the wrong, and feels entitled. Great ending. The two jobs offered to Bill seemed really exciting (for a business person--I'd be bored stiff in such a job). I agree Bill did the superior job. I have worked with a lot of guys who do the radio and pace thing, and Bill had every reason to as his future was on the line. Not as bad as Kwame being almost not in control of the situation (I was glad to hear he COULD have fired Omarosa--too bad he thought he couldn't.) I think Kwame is a conflict-avoider, kinda like my current boss. There are definitely downsides to that management style. Though when I took the test, I came out as a Kwame! I wonder if they threw in the couple of things Troy seemed to let slide as a way of explaining better why he was booted, since he was so popular. A lot of us (me included) didn't get it.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 9:24 am
I agree that this final task was just too important to totally delegate everything. I would have been micromanaging too. Bill also quoted Trump this am from his new book saying that every good manager does micromange. Bill obviously did his homework!
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 9:37 am
<<Holy crap, folks! I have missed the last couple of weeks of this show, and even though I have been reading about the controversy with Omarosa, I had no freakin' idea exactly how bad it all was! This woman is a piece of work, and how she is justifying all of this in her mind mystifies me (I caught a snippet of an interview on Access Hollywood earlier). She appears to be deluded and I think more than a little bit off. Her elevator ain't going to the top floor. Her toolbox is missing a hammer. Whatever, but she's a few sandwiches short of a picnic. >> Here's a description of Narcissistic Personality Disorder for you're reading pleasure...I think it fits Oma to a tee. Diagnostic Criteria A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following: 1. has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements) 2. is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love 3. believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions) 4. requires excessive admiration 5. has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations 6. is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends 7. lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others 8. is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her 9. shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes}
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 9:44 am
<,I was reading todays paper (hoping that would lull me to sleep lol) and there was a very interesting article in the Boston Globe. They interviewed top execs, most of whom were addicted to the show like the rest of us. They asked them who would they hire. Only one was mentioned by name, not once but twice. Most waffled, and one said the two finalists were the best and both qualified yadda yadda. But who did 2 of the folks say was the best all around Apprentice? (Enough dramatic buildup?! lol). My boy Troy!>> I adore Troy. In USA Today last week, they had a similar article. Seven of the top execs said they would hire Bill, five would hire Kwame, and two would hire Troy. And they made these picks BEFORE the final two became known.
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Maryk
Member
01-30-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:03 am
USA Today article on their website is an oops moment... http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20040416/6120988s.htm And the apprentice is: Kwame Jackson By Del Jones USA TODAY Donald Trump, weighing in like the U.S. Supreme Court after the last presidential election, ended a job hunt that seemed to attract as much attention. He delivered Trump-style justice, firing Bill Rancic of Chicago Thursday and hiring the more laid-back Kwame Jackson of New York. The finale of The Apprentice reality TV show attracted the largest audience since it started with 16 contestants in January.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:04 am
I really wanted Kwame to win but I'm not surprised that Bill won. Kwame lost, IMO, because of Omarosa. She is definitely narcissistic and I hope she goes away! Heidi didn't help things. I can't believe she admitted to wanting to be miro-managed! Excuse me? Wasn't she trying to win the top job? Troy seemed annoying at the meet & greet thing but I can see how he felt he needed to manage Heidi. On the other side, Bill made me laugh. The way he was running around trying to control every little thing. I understand why he was feeling that way, all his employees put together had the enthusiasm of a turtle. Anyway, I loved this show and can't wait for next season. I was more entertained by this show than any other reality show. It's my fav.
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:11 am
Maryk, that's hi-larious!! It's their article in case Kwame DID win!! (note the place markers for quotes). How'd it get posted?? Not quite as bad as Dewey/Truman, but pretty bad.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 10:17 am
Here is an article on MSNBC talking about the "oops moment" on USA Today's website. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4758140/
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:05 am
about oma in the herbal essence commercial, i already emailed clairol and told them if she truly appeared in a commercial, i would definitely be 'disinclined' to buy any further products from them.
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Maryk
Member
01-30-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:10 am
Look at our favorite gal Omarosa at the after party: (courtesy of Abaca Press Americas)

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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:11 am
Good for you Tabby - I wouldn't buy anything that she was involved with either.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:12 am
I wonder if Herbal Essence will still air a spot with O. I don't know if it's been shot yet (sounds to me like it hasn't), but even if so, I doubt they will air it after last night. O now went beyond the "woman you love to hate". From everything I've read and seen (both articles and message boards) - EVERYONE dislikes Omarosa at this point. I think any company would be stupid to endorse her. And I certainly would not buy anything that is associated in any way with her! Tabbyking - that's a good idea. I'm going to write Clairol as well!
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 16, 2004 - 11:18 am
She's probably going to appear as a villainess on the commercial. But still, I don't love to hate her, I just hate her now. Actually, more like pity her, as I think she's mentally unstable. Still, I don't want to see her in a commercial. She's wince-inducing.
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