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Archive through March 21, 2004

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Sanfranjoshfan
Member

09-17-2000

Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good article, Kaili.

One line:

" And of course, the gay guys are the bad guys because they are the deceivers who are only in it for the money. "

This was one thing that crossed my mind, too. The gay guys are already set up to be the heavies. Not only are they the ones lying, but they are lying for money and have the chance to win twice as much money as any other individual player, whether it's the str8 guys or the girl. Any gay guy that wins will get the big bucks, but it will come at the cost of being the branded the biggest liar/manipulator.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I never thought about that concept. Gay bad, Hetero good.
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Truly looking forward to the next episode to see how this show plays out. Hopefully, we will get to see everyone as they interact. The highly edited "private thoughts" blurbs didnt give me enough to get to know their personalities. All I know is that I would have gotten rid of that hyper guy right away....something tells me He will be an actor and will be kept til the end for comic relief. Both Average Joes had casted "nerds" which made it almost to the end each time, no doubt with help from the producers.:-)


Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think I've seen anyone in this thread mention the opening intro piece, where the two were arm wrestling and the one fellow's arm broke right in the middle of it.

That was disturbing. I hope its not part of the intro montage every week.

Lori
Member

04-18-2003

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know what you mean Whoami...that is so gross!

I'm actually finding this pretty boring tonight. It's more about the guys than the guys trying to win Jackie over. They spend almost no time with Jackie!

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
that's cuz their gay

Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I said Ryan was str8. Even though some disagreed with me, I knew chances are if he was on Elimidate he was probably str8. Obviously, the gay guys are laying low. This show really is boring. Can't they send them on a real date somewhere.

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who got eliminated??

Lori
Member

04-18-2003

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alex and Ryan.

They really need to go on "real dates". How in the world is Jackie going to develop feelings/relationship with any of these guys on swing dates!

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Alex (he was gay) and Ryan (straight)

Why were so many guys surprised that she got rid of him (ryan)? Wasn't he supposed to be an obnoxious jerk?

She has a goofy sideways kind of kiss she uses at the elimination round.

She looks very different at times, depending on her hair/outfit, I think.

Robok
Member

10-28-2003

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, Ryan, who is not gay, and Alex who is gay. Wasn't Ryan on "Boy meets boy"?

Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, he was on Elimidate.

Cathie
Member

08-16-2000

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re: the disclaimer at the beginning of the show that states the guys could be lying at any time, even in the interviews, is it possible they could be lying to her at the end?

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Robok and Julie!

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed tonight's show.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Friday, March 19, 2004 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This show must be really dragging. They seem to have such little material to work with, even the editors show the same scene before/after the commercial, with big dramatic music, and shots of all these nervous faces of the men waiting to hear her decision, and the booted guy's revelation!

With Alex, after about the 15th shot of facial expressions, I yelled, "just say it already!" Please producers, its gone far beyond that dramatic pause you're trying to do. You're just dragging it out. Yeesh!

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 2:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL SWING DATES !!?? Well, with the other Average Joe shows Larissa or Melina would meet a couple of guys in the parlor prior to eviction and sit in Chairs. So I guess Swing is okay!
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So far we have not seen any real dates. That picnic shown on the show today was pathetic. Each guy had a half hour or something?? LONGER dates, and then she'd know whos who....well, maybe. :-)


Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good catch, Cathie. In fact , a friend of mine,after seeing that blurb which said any of them could be lying at any time, believes that ALL the men are Gay and that that will be the big twist in the end!! (my friend is gay also, BTW)

Babyjaxmom
Member

10-20-2002

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought it was funny when one of the guys said, "He must be gay cause he highlights his hair." Hee! I dated a guy a few years back who highlighted his hair, and he was definitely not gay! Just because a guy cares about his appearance and wants to look nice does not make him gay! Silly boys!

But then, it also doesn't make him "not gay."

Beachcomber
Member

08-26-2003

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoever the guy was (bad at names!) arguing at the table with Ryan kept saying "don't be a b*tch." Now when I have heard guys argue, they say "don't be a dick" or some other macho term. I have never heard gay guys argue, but does that sound gayish to call another guy a b*tch?

Sanfranjoshfan
Member

09-17-2000

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I took it as a simple insult, like when an inmate calls another guy "his b*tch" or a "punk". Both are derogatory terms used to refer to an inmate's subservient "slave"...it denotes a below par masculinity.

I've heard gay guys call other guys a b*tch before, but I've also heard both str8 guys and women refer to a str8 guy as a b*tch in the heat of an argument because it's an insult to the guy's masculinity. It's like when a str8 guy calls a gay guy a "f*ggot"....it's an emasculating insult. (Although....I know plenty of gay men that are LOT more masculine than many str8 men! :-))

I think he called Ryan that just because Ryan was acting like a "catty b*tch" more than he was acting like a mature man.

That's just my take on it....

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, even if he is str8, I have to say I'm glad Ryan is GONE. What a JERK! I really liked what Alex had to say about coming on the show so people would know you just can't peg who is gay because of stereotypes. Like I said before, I think any of the guys who seem somewhat feminine on the show, are probably going to be the str8 guys.

My gay friends use "b*tch" a lot, but also in fun. My "adopted" son (actually my good friend) often jokes and leaves me messages calling me "b*tch!," and I might call him that or other things, I would never call someone I didn't have that kind of relationship with(!) But it's just something we DO. I hear most str8 guys using that word when they think females are not nice. I have heard them call other guys that as a major putdown, too. I agree with Josh, Ryan was acting like a "catty b*tch"!! I don't think we can take anything we hear on that show that "might" seem to indicate being "gay" as a real sign. We all know editing!

Rslover - Considering all I've said above regarding how they cast this show, I'm not surprised that Ryan was str8. But, there definitely ARE gay guys going on str8 dating shows, for "camera time." Like I said, one of my friends dated a guy who was a producer. It might have even been Elimidate, but I can't be sure. He just told my friend that was the case. Afterall, with those shows, you really don't have much invested but a "date" or two. There's not much time to invest. :-)

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh yeah, the hair highligting comment was just ridiculous! Tons of str8 men have their hair highlighted! LOL - We have pictures of my brother (which I'm sure he wishes all would be permanently destroyed!) where he had his hair permed back in the late 70s. That had to be one of the worse fads we had. LOLOL

Rslover
Member

11-19-2002

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 10:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Watching2,
Yes, I know but I don't think it really is that common. Too many people on the board confirmed he was st8 too. Besides, he was just trying too hard, ya know? Did you notice the gay guys are laying low? Lay low and throw her a line and she is totally clueless!!

Cathie
Member

08-16-2000

Saturday, March 20, 2004 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Laying low for sure, lol! When she got to Alex I thought "who in the heck is Alex?" because I don't remember him doing or saying anything during the first two shows!

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe I am incorrect....but I'm thinking that some of the really effeminate mannerism guys are not being shown to us since it is so obvious. Jackie, however, hardly ever seems to really see the guys and when she does they are in a big group (often doing activities) Methinks the producers will not show us the 'stereotypical' ones on TV, just the guys who can ACT straight under pressure will last in this show.:-)