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Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The idea that a wrestling match between Julie and Coral could possibly settle their differences is assinine. If Julie really thought it would work, then she's even less bright than I've given her credit for (and I haven't given her much credit for being bright).

I think Julie's motivation was a combination of 1) hoping to get Coral kicked off the show and 2) her eternal desire to get on camera and get attention. In the absolute sea of attention seekers that make up the BMP universe, Julie stands out as one of the worst.

>I totally disagree, Julie said herself that she never thought Coral would wrestle her.<

Then what was Julie's motivation for starting the whole thing, except to get attention?

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yup - I forgot to add the camera seeking motivation. She wants the cameras on her 24/7. Like when she kneeled down the pray allowed. You think the camera just happened upon her? Not on your life. It's clear from the player's blogs that the cameras are not everywhere all the time, nor are the miked 24/7. Julie waited for the camera to approach her to get that shot. It makes me sick that someone uses their religion to garner attention and attempt to manipulate like that.

Peepinagain
Member

07-18-2002

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As I said before Julie said herself she was trying to make a point w/Coral to air out all their differences put it behind them and move on as a team. Now I'm not defending how she was trying to do this just restating what Julie said about airing out all their differences and putting it behind them so they could move on as a team. Its hard dealing with hateful/spiteful people and Julie reached her limit with Coral and later she felt terrible about how she reacted AND APOLIGIZED. Coral can't let anything go.

Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gina, I agree with your post's 100%! Additionally, I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but when David and Julie were talking about setting up the wrestling match, David said he would go and bring it up with Coral. When he got to Coral's room he didn't go in there and say Julie wants to wrestle you so you two can get out you aggression towards each other, he went in there and said "Julie wants to fight you". That is a huge difference!! Coral was already visibly upset about the early verbal confrontation and to then hear that now this girl that she hates wants to kick her ass, I too would be extremely pissed off. I think Coral handled herself with class in that particular situation. When everyone is outside egging the situation on, she was smart enough to stay in the room and tried to not inflame the situation even more.

I truly believe that Julie was hoping for Coral to through a punch and get kicked off the show.

I just think Coral is up front about her feelings, she's not going to be nice to someone she dislikes just to look better on camera. I see Julie as a phony who puts facade of this nice, sweet mormon girl and I'm not buying it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And Coral and Mike NEVER want camera time?

Meemo
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08-22-2002

Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what rubbed me the wrong way about julie is when she was praying. okay, i'm not judging her faith or anything but what was the purpose of saying the prayer OUT LOUD?!! i think she knew she went to far and was trying to redeem herself for the CAMERAS to see. that's bad camera time IMO.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clearly everyone who participates in these shows are attention seekers - that's just a given. Why Julie makes me particularily sick is that she used her religion to try to gain attention. Personally, if I were to pray for forgiveness from God, I would do it in private and as Meemo said, silently. I would not wait for the cameras to come find me, make sure my mike is working and then start 'praying' outloud.

Guinevere
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03-15-2001

Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
>As I said before Julie said herself she was trying to make a point w/Coral to air out all their differences put it behind them and move on as a team.<

And this happened how long after Julie had yelled at Coral in the team meeting that Coral had to "shut the *&# up" during Julie's Inferno? Maybe Julie should have thought about putting their differences behind them before she bitched Coral out in front of everyone.

I don't really see the Coral/Julie relationship as one where "differences" can be put behind them. Julie's shady behavior has turned a lot of people off of her (notice that unlike Coral, she has very few friends at these Challenges, and tends to hang out with other outcasts - e.g. Katie). Julie is not someone I would want in my life, that's for sure. So I think the best thing would be for Coral and Julie to have as little contact as possible, rather than trying to come to some sort of understanding via "airing differences".

>Its hard dealing with hateful/spiteful people and Julie reached her limit with Coral and later she felt terrible about how she reacted AND APOLIGIZED. Coral can't let anything go.<

I don't think Coral is hateful/spiteful - bitchy, to be sure, but that's about as far as I'd go. I can deal with that better than I can with a disingenous, phony, untrustworthy person, which is what Julie is.

I also think saying that Julie "had reached her limit" puts the responsibility for Julie's behavior on Coral, rather than on Julie, where it belongs.

Look, I'm the first to admit that Coral has faults. But Julie, again, is someone who seems to run through "friends" at a steady clip - I know that from RWNO, just to start, Danny, Kelley and Melissa all dislike and distrust Julie because of her shady behavior. I tend to believe that where there's smoke, there's fire, and Coral has good reason for disdaining Julie. That doesn't excuse any and all behaviors on Coral's part, but it makes her actions and attitude more understandable and sympathetic to me.

Peepinagain
Member

07-18-2002

Friday, April 23, 2004 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Guinevere - I don't see Coral making any new friends. At the moment I'm not sure if anyone on her team considers her a friend. Mike is just there out of some misguided loyality or because he remembers the hell he was put through before Coral finally let him be a friend, he doesn't want to ever be on the 'other' side of that. But even Mike is struggling to be a friend to Coral. Also Coral is a friend of Melissa's so even before she met Julie she didn't like her. You should never judge anyone before you meet them or let anyone tell you someone else is a bad person, you should always make your own opinion.

From what I've seen of Coral, I wouldn't want to get to know her. Julie on the other hand I think has a good heart but is young and competitive and because of that makes bad decisions sometimes BUT when she realizes that she admits fault. Something I've NEVER seen Coral do.

Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Friday, April 23, 2004 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
>Also Coral is a friend of Melissa's so even before she met Julie she didn't like her<

Peepinagain, why do you assume that Coral knew Melissa before she met Julie? Julie and Melissa were on the same year. Coral was on the following season. From story that I posted earlier from Melissa's site, Coral and Julie's falling out happened before Coral and Melissa had even met. I've never heard Julie or Coral dispute that.

>I don't see Coral making any new friends<

The entire Paris cast seems extremely friendly with her. Also I know Veronica and her are close friends.

>Mike is just there out of some misguided loyality or because he remembers the hell he was put through before Coral finally let him be a friend, he doesn't want to ever be on the 'other' side of that. But even Mike is struggling to be a friend to Coral.<

Coral had a reason to be a little pissed during her season when Mike said to her and Malik how his uncle wouldn't hire a black person because (and I'm not exactly sure of the statement) they weren't as educated and/or that they didn't work as hard as white people and that Mike agreed with that. Now Mike was extremely young at the time and hadn't really had exposure to black people up to that point, but he was eager to learn and grow from his experiences. Coral and Mike's friendship grew out of that and I believe is true and genuine. Also I don't see him struggling to be her friend, in fact I saw him as in complete agreement with her when Julie was trying get her to wrestle/fight.

Sweetbabygirl
Member

08-31-2002

Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's my question....what does everyone have against Katie?

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
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I think part of it is that she honestly isn't much of an athlete compared to the other RR types, so even when she tries, she's generally toward the bottom of the heap, even amongst the woman. Also going against her, it that she often just doesn't try very hard. She gives up easily and she isn't much of a team player - or at least that's is the rest of the RRers perception of Katie.

Quite frankly I mostly like Katie. I didn't think much of her during her season, but she's been fun to watch during these RR/RW competition shows. The worse her teams treats her the more determined she becomes. I think she has a great deal of tenacity and that I admire. Plus, like so many of the others - she's a drama queen - so there's always entertainment there.

Sweetbabygirl
Member

08-31-2002

Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ohhhhhh....see, I haven't been watching from the beginning; just saw the one where her own teammates were throwing a challenge to send her home.

Thanks, G.!

Texasdeb
Member

05-23-2003

Saturday, April 24, 2004 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think what it was about Katie was that she didn't take the whole thing serious (the rest of RR have their eye on that final $100g's). Not that the few challenges their team lost wouldn't have been RW wins anyway, but Katie gave up or contributed to every team loss. If I hadn't seen the Gauntlet (where she also was weak) I would think she may be playing this weakest player thing up as her strataty knowing that RW will never put her in the inferno. When her own neck is on the line, she steps up & shows everyone a different Katie. I really think she will contribute in the final challenge & be a more positive person on her team than Coral or Leah will be on RW. That's why RW is looking at trying to get rid of at least Leah b/4 that big one.

Peepinagain
Member

07-18-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Actually Mike DIDN'T agree with what his uncle said he was just repeating what his uncle said. NOT agreeing with it, he knew it was wrong to think that. Coral went off just because he told them that NOT because he believed that. And no Mike's not struggling to be her friend NOW. He just doesn't want to get on her bad side again.

About Coral and Julie's falling out - Julie said she never met Coral before this and even stated that Coral probably didn't like her because of Melissa.

Meemo
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08-22-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Katie seems to thrive on anger. she acts as if she doesn't care about the challenges but when they try to get her out, she wants to stay. if only she could try her hardest on every challenge like she did on the last challenge with Syrus.

Meemo
Member

08-22-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
are there only 2 episodes left?

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree peep. As I recall it Mike was sharing something he heard someone around him say. I think he was trying to show/share a bit of what growing up where he did was like. He in no way endorsed what his uncle(?) said. It's the same as anyone else sharing some ignorant thing they heard. By repeating something, doesn't mean a person agrees with it. I think he was sharing in the frame of 'I can't believe the sort of stuff I heard about people of color where I grew up - listen to this one...'

Coral and Mike clearly count each other as good friends. Not sure why folks on the outside feel the need to question that.

BTW - If you insist on only having friends who are perfect - you will be a very lonely person indeed!

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gee whiz - I just saw I got modded for what people say on TV everyday. I wasn't calling her that - but I guess I was passing on what other people were calling her. I guess I never know quite where the mods will draw the line - sorry mods, I didn't mean to cross it.

Can I say people see her (Katie) as cranky and unreasonable and difficult to get along with at times? As well as overly outspoken, and not always kind and sweet and demure? But that isn't the only reason folks dislike her since these attributes/adjectives also fit many of the folks cast on these shows. But I said that was the easy answer. Then read the rest of my post... Maybe that will make sense?

Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
>About Coral and Julie's falling out - Julie said she never met Coral before this and even stated that Coral probably didn't like her because of Melissa.<

Peep, do you mean before this particular challenge?



Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess the Julie-Coral debate is like politics, religion and abortion, everyone has their own diverse opinion and no one ever wins, but I do enjoy the debate though! I try to like Julie, I truly do but I just can't get over the fakeness! Also, Colin (RWH), Lori(RWNY) and Danny (RWNO) have all commented on their personal websites about Julie's shadiness. Also, they never show Julie having close relationships with any people from the show, but everyone else seems to have developed strong bonds with each other. I can't believe that all these people are not her friend just because of Coral and Melissa's personal feelings, they can't have that much control over everyone. I just truly believe there has to be some truth in what people say about her.



Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Someone posted these scores on another message board. I cannot attest to their validity, but they are interesting if they are true.



REAL WORLD SCORES/TIMES ALL MISSIONS
Grope the Rope-Real World loses
Syrus- 18.38
David- 18.71
Mike- 21.01
CT- 22.70
Trishelle- 28.14
Coral- 28.87
Kendal- 35.07
Leah- 55.87
Mallory- Disqualified
Ace- Disqualified
Julie- Disqualified (Time Limit)
The average scores:
Real World- 9:05
Road Rules- 8:25
Birdfeeder- Real World wins
Syrus - 28.0g
Coral - 25.8g
Mike - 25.8g
Mallory - 24.4g
CT - 23.4g
David - 23.0g
Ace - 22.8g
Julie - 22.6g
Leah - 21.4g
Trishelle - 12.4g

Wreck n Roll- Real World loses
Mulie and Mike team leaders

Climbing Wall- Real World loses
Mulie- Disqualified -2 Min Penalty (2nd DQ)
Leah- Disqualified - 2 Minute Penalty
Mallory- Disqualified - 2 Minute Penalty
Coral- Disqualified - 2 Minute Penalty
Trishelle- Disqualified - 2 Minute Penalty
Syrus- 1:08
Mike- 1:06
David- 0:53
CT- 0:46

Disco Derby - Real World wins


Balls Out - Real World wins
eliminations go as follows:
Jeremy - Eliminated by Coral
Christena - Eliminated by Coral
Holly - Eliminated by Coral
Timmy (Did not show)
Julie - First RW eliminated by RR
Syrus - eliminated
Darrell - Eliminated by Coral
Kendal - Eliminated by Coral
Abram - Eliminated by Coral
Veronica - Eliminated by Coral
David
Mike
Mallory
CT

Saturn Road Trip- Real World loses
Abram & Timmy- 02:43
Shane & Christena- 03:10
Veronica & Holly- 03:24
Julie & David- 03:46
Darrell & Kendal- 03:47
Mallory & CT- 04:44
Katie & Abram- 05:24
Mike & Coral- 06:08
Syrus & Leah- 16:53

Don't Yank my Chain (first-last order)- Real World loses
hr:min
Dave :25
Mulie :32
Coral 1:07
Syrus 1:19
CT 1:44
Mallory 2:42
Leah 3:09
Miz 4:24

Come Sail Away

Real World- 6330 pecos - Real World loses
Road Rules- 6505 pecos

Bungee Bound - Real World loses

The times are as follows:
CT- 00:18
Mike- 00:23
Coral- 00:25
Julie- 00:26
Syrus- 00:38
Dave - 00:40
Leah - DQ = lowest time + 5 minutes


Twist and Shoot - Road Rules wins
Real World David - 60 pts + $1,000.00
Mike - 50 pts + $1,000.00
Coral - 40 pts + $1,000.00
Syrus - 30 pts + $1,000.00 after a 50 pt penalty
Julie - 20 pts + $1,000.00
CT - 10 pts + $1,000.00

OT
Syrus - 50 pts
Abe - 50 pts after 50 pt penalty

OTOT
Coral - 40 pts
Christena - 80 pts


Balcony Swing- Real World wins
Real World (shortest time order)
CT 2:56:46 - lifesaver
Mike 2:56:60
Coral 3:13:43
Julie 3:34:85
Syrus 4:45:02
David 12:12:53 (4 flag penalties)
Leah sat out
average time 4:26


Fallen Angel - Both teams Real World loses
Syrus & Leah
Penalty

CT & David
2:13

Mike & Coral
Penalty


Avrey258
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06-23-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone know if tonight's show is an hour?
My on-screen guide has it from 9:00-10:00 pm. That's central time. It's usually only on from 9:00 to 9:30.

Puttergirl
Member

08-11-2000

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
According to my guide, its the first episode being shown again??? So I looked it up in Yahoo and found this:

"The Inferno", Episode #800.
[no description available]


Original Airdate: February 2, 2004.


So I guess its true. It looks like the next original episode isn't until May 3:

"The Inferno", Episode #814.
Kendal crosses her team; Leah fights to stay in the game.


Original Airdate: May 3, 2004.


Abby7
Member

07-17-2002

Monday, April 26, 2004 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
okay, i hope i am following the tvch rules by doing the posting this way. i'm not so good with links. after i post this....i'll try to post the wisconsin court papers. i don't know if this is true or not (i do know that Gabe was her boyfriend though):
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i read the above at the planetsocks.com site. that is where the wisconsin court papers are posted also.

http://realworldroadrules.blogspot.com/:

Well, this week on the Inferno, we saw Julie (New Orleans) challenge Coral (Back to New York) to a wrestling match. Well, Coral obviously declined saying that she didn't want to be sent home in handcuffs for beating Julie up... Well, it looks like if Julie has had some experience in this before.

Hardcore fans will know this... During Battle of the Sexes, Julie had a band and a boyfriend. The band, Bunkbed Incident, and her boyfriend, Gabe, were both well mentioned in that one first episode and with Julie's spat with Melissa (New Orleans) on MTV.com. They played the song on the episode and Julie wore the band's t-shirts. Well, when Julie came to Mexico to play in the Inferno, all traces of both the band and Gabe were gone... Which left people wondering....

Well, shortly before coming to the Inferno, Gabe had filed a restraining order against Julie in a Wisconsin court. The restraining order was filed in September of last year, shortly before filming on the Inferno began, and is classified as a domestic abuse case... And if the restraining order wasn't enough to end contact between the two, Julie filed a small claims case against Gabe when she came back from the Inferno. The case was filed in November and settled in February. With attorney in hand, Julie went against Gabe winning $2,400 in small claims court.

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