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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
a lot of people go for their 15 minutes, but a lot of them are at least somewhat likable or have some cute attribute. i think omarosa does not realize that for many people her 15 minutes is not a 'good' 15 minutes! she just seems to be digging herself deeper and showing a real lack of class. when she doesn't benefit financially from this 15 minutes, she will think of the next thing to work on. i was afraid she was going to claim lawsuit next and that may well have been where her 'n' comments come from. she maybe thought that since we all had seen her sparring with ereka earlier, we might believe this 'n' thing happened. doesn't omarosa realize this is taking her even lower in many peoples' opinions? i would have had more respect had she left with class, although i was already getting might tired of the entire 'sky falling on her head'. henny penny, and all that:-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that accusing someone of using that word is about as low as you can get.

Hootyhoot
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12-18-2001

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I remember thinking what a stunning woman Omarosa was when we first saw her on the show. But "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" and now when I see her ... I'm totally put off . Her actions have taken away her beauty.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heidi and O are about to be on MSNBC on the east coast - on Deborah Noville

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Immunity, I had the same concern about O & race relations... I think you conveyed this much more clearly than I did despite several mod deletions Truly I think everyone on this board well knows that Omarosa is just Omarosa

Dram
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09-10-2003

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed Omarosa and Heidi on MSNBC. Anything interesting? About Heidi. While I think it is always better to go gracefully, I have to admit that I noticed that about Caroline too. She seems much harder on the women. A lot of women in power do that and I don't understand why.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Heidi was on Fox/ Greta van Sustern's show.. nothing said about Omarosa, thankfully. Heidi said her mother just had surgery, but doing well (but I wonder about another surgery since October) and her point was that Caroline never talked to Heidi once in the seven weeks. Heidi named several of her contributions, including being the lead on the team when it won.. said if she was to do it over (that night) she'd have gathered her resources better, but that by that point, with her mother and all, when Caroline was so harsh, Heidi was kind of ready to go. She says being on the show can help open some doors but you have to be active in pursuing opportunities.

She also was a little less made up, it seemed to me. She spoke highly of Donald and several of the teammates.

Said she wants to stay in sales but change areas.. she's in telecommunications, I think, says it is a bit dry and she wants more people work.

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One thing I can say about O is that she knows how to play the game, and I'm not talking about the show.

Anyone can get 15 minutes, but a NEGATIVE 15 mins can get you 30. And she is just adding fuel to the fire every time she is given air time. Every insult she throws out there gets her booked on another show.

She puts on this poised persona and sugarcoats everything she says, especially the insults, but I think we saw the real Omarosa just before she got fired. <el> I can't believe she barged into DT's boardroom like that.

There is something wrong with that woman.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, March 12, 2004 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Some people are so ready to jump at an insult they hear things that are not said. The "pot calling the kettle black" was one example.
For another, some friends of mine were nearly beaten up in the street because they were talking about knickers, those short pants, and a groups of young, black thugs misheard them and decided to get insulted.
I don't believe anyone on the Apprentice said the N word, and that Omarossa either lied or misheard a perfectly innocent statement yet again.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oops dup

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't like Omarosa because she appeared to not pull her share of any load they were given, she made excuses and frequently used bad judgement in her various negotiations with potential clients/donors, etc.

Those are the reasons I, and I think all of the "Apprentices" wanted her out.

The first hint of her drama or her instability was when she reacted to the remark someone made,"...that's like the pot calling the kettle black." Omarosa replied that that was a racist remark. And ya know, as I recall, it is POSSIBLE that Ereka was the one who made that remark. Maybe that is what Omarosa twisted into Ereka calling her the N word. Anyone got a tape of that? It was like the first or 2nd episode.

If Omarosa construed that as a racial slur, perhaps she had not heard it before, she isn't all that old, and maybe that saying isn't as common in her culture. That saying has absolutely nothing to do with race, it is a phrase from at least a hundred years ago. What does it mean? I know everyone of you knows, so I am just restating it in case there is one person who doesn't know, it refers to people who pass judgement on others when they aren't so clean themselves. Two pots in the fire, the pot tells the kettle that it is dirty. While those around can clearly see that the pot is just as dirty as the kettle. Hence, when you pass judgement on others, you are probably just a guilty of something as they are.

Like I said, I only wrote all that because there might actually be people who have not heard the expression, and Omarosa might be one of them. So she was offended. Hay, it could happen, I actually think it could.

Wouldn't it be interesting if that was the root of all of this animosity Omarosa has. A simple cultural misunderstanding that smouldered inside of her for several weeks. Could have made her feel disappointed, disillusioned, and apart from.

Oh MY HECK, I can't believe that I am thinking maybe Omarosa might have, not matter how wrong she was, honestly thought she had been racially slammed.

I will not think about it, I will not think about it, I will not think about it. DARN.


Starshine40
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07-30-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sun, I read a statement that O made on one of the TV shows she has been on (or that was in a newspaper) somewhere online the last few days. In that statement O referred to the "pot calling the kettle black" and said that, of course she did know what it meant and that it wasn't racial. So, this was NOT the source of her accusation. I may be able to find the source (that I read) when I have time to search, but not tonight.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 1:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Starshine, I dunno, at the time it was said in the back of the limo (NOW I spell it right) She totally reacted to the comment and said something about it was "racial or racist".

Caroline
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10-08-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 1:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How many times did I hear her say, "...I feel I am being attacked". Jeez...

And this 'strong woman' thing only exposes the underlying insecurity beneath as does her pious platitudes.

The chick doesn't listen which is too bad because if she had, she would have heard Donald say 'she has a huge chip on her shoulder' -- something which a truly 'strong woman' would jettison if a successful in career and/or personal life was a goal...


Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This is from Newsweek

Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth on...

Whether she would have done anything differently now that she’s seen the show:
Maybe I would have incorporated some “Survivor”-like tactics. I would focus more on interpersonal relationships and developing the alliances and developing the strategy, you know, just like the other contestants were doing.

Seeing a doctor after she got hit on the head with a piece of debris:
It’s so easy to verify my story. [laughs] From medical records, from the doctors that I saw, from the medications they prescribed, the MRI that I took, the X-rays and all that. So it just cracks me up when they say “Were you really injured? What was the extent of your injuries and who diagnosed you for a concussion?” I think the biggest question is why were we on the construction site without a hardhat on?

Who she’d like to see win at this point:
I think Donald Trump is the biggest winner. He’s made so much money off of us. . . I don’t really have a preference. I’d love to see one of the ladies win.


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would like to see the x-ray and MRI--or at least the report on those. The drugs she was prescribed were probably anti-hallucinogents or anti-delusionals!

And just cuz she had an x-ray and/or MRI doesn't mean anything. I'm sure she bitched up a storm so the docs ordered those tests cuz they probably thought she did have a major injury (based on her bellyaching'!)

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
transcripts of O and H on Deborah Noville should be available today or tomorrow so i will try to get them and paste them here... they were on back to back but nOT together - heidi first and then O - and O basically said the N word happened and she knows how she felt when it happened but she is "moving on " - and that MB staged the scene when she burst into the board room, telling her she had a one on one but DT didnt know - (which as much as I believe teh little stories of MB manipulating certain things, i really dont see him doing something that blatant of a set up. Oh and O said she would contact other players by phone when they saw episodes and say things like "remember when taht happened 2 weeks before" - and she specifically named Heidi as someone she had phoned 3-4 times.

Heidi handled herself well - normal answers - how it was, her mother (who had surgery yesterday), a brief denial of teh N word ever being said by Ereka - but i will wait for the transcript before elaborating any more.

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If the hard hat was such an issue why didn't she bring it up when they arrived at the scene? Why wait til someone was hurt? If she didn't think it was a problem, why would anyone have? And, if she was that injured, she should have left the show. She chose to stay so she should have just dealt with it. JMHO, of course!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On a positive note (and just because I'm tired of talking about Omarosa), I for one would just like to say I hope Kwame stays around for a while just so we can see him answering the phone in his boxers! Hubba, hubba! What a cutie! And maybe he could answer the phone in his boxers wearing those cute glasses???

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
lol babyjax

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Let's move discussion of Omarosa to the "Miscellaneous" section as she really does not pertain to the March 11th show, which is the one we are discussing here....correct? I think she has earned her 15 minutes of miscellany by now, don't you think?

Now then, on to Babyjax's fine observation of boxers and who was in them! Mmmmmmm, I totally agree. At least Kwame was on the March 11th show. LOL :-)


Upstate
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01-16-2004

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think one more time dt fires someone for past performance not for the present week. dt is the most inconsistant person. he jumps all over the place week after week why one is fired over another. one week it is for not bringing in a friend to the board. now it isn't.

in aside does dt have all that gold and glitter to compensate for other less decorative, um ok i will say it....short comings. lol i find it over the top all that gold he decorates with.

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would think it is in Trumps best interest to take each persons overall performance into account when deciding whom to fire. Many weeks he may want to fire someone who is either on the winning team or was not brought to the boardroom as one of the potential candidates to fire. If there is someone he wants to fire, he must do it when he has the chance, since there is no guarantee they will ever go back to the boardroom before the show reaches the finals.

While Trump asks about the current task and gets input from his right-hand people, he is ultimately looking at the big picture and trying to find the top 2-3 people that he feels can work for him on a daily basis. I would bet that he is watching public reaction and approval of the people in the finals and will use that information when making the final decision. I would not be surprised to learn that he has identified his final 2-3 people a few weeks ago and is basically just picking what he and MB feel is the most dramatic and entertaining order to fire the others.


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ITA Bob!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Plus, he's the Boss and can fire whoever (whomever?) he wants! I totally agree that he fires not just who he thinks should go that particular week, but looks at their overall performance--much as a boss in real life would evaluate an employee.

And as for DT firing Heidi "because her mom had cancer," as someone stated above, I don't think he fired her for that reason, but because her mind and her heart were elsewhere. She as much as admitted that when she seemed so happy to be going home, but she did seem to give it her best shot in spite of her family issues--and her potty mouth! Though I might like Heidi for a friend (she's pretty funny), I didn't think her tight skirts, trash mouth and funny eyebrows really fit in with DT's corporate image. He seems to like her as a person, but I couldn't see him putting her in charge of one of his companies.