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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 12:53 am
When do we get to the episode with Donald Trump in the fat suit and the hidden camera? <...wonders if he is mixing his shows up...>
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:26 am
LOL Bob! They'll need to wing out his grey hair. My absolute favorite moment of the evening was Troy saying "She's madder 'n a wet hen." My parents were originally from West Texas, and it's been years since I've heard that expression. And it so fits Katerina's state of pique! It's one of those expressions which creates a perfect mental image, but not necessarily the reality, because I've seen wet hens and none of them were ever particularly mad.
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Chief1
Member
08-18-2003
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 6:56 am
Last night's episode was one of the best ever! I, too, believe that Katrina's ego was bruised badly, causing her to "go off" the way she did. It seemed to me that she wanted to be viewed not only as the professional realtor, but also as the superior one in the group. Her personal attack on Troy was nothing less than her anger coming out, because she realized she was duped! I thought it was hilarious really, that Troy out-performed her. This was especially appealing after she made some reference to him being country (or something to that effect), and eluding to his inability to perform as well. Tammy probably had it coming to her, for not "getting it" from previos episodes. But this time, she hit the nail on the head! I'm surprised that DT didn't make Katrina take the hit, since after listening to the arguments, labeled it a dupe. I was actually looking forward to him telling her (in response to her blaming Troy), "It's not personal ... It's just business!"
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Yuhuru
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 7:54 am
Great show last nite. I was keeping my fingers crossed that katrina was fired. i know tammy is way out in left field, BUT Katrina was insane. she was a supreme whiner, cry baby, etc. i was really surprised, but then i remembered her irrational exchange with omarosa a few episodes back. these woman are really out there. i don't think i could work well with any of them - oh, maybe amy
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:05 am
Katrina dropped waaaaaay down in my eyes last night. She's overreactive, immature and refuses to take responsibility for her own failures. If she's the real estate pro, she should have been negotiating the rent, not Bill. Bill is in the cigar biz, not real estate. Then she blames him for not getting a higher price. Hey, if you thought you could get the highest rent then you should have been handling it yourself. I was glad to see Tammy make her exit. Not so much because of what she did last night but due to past performance. It was only a matter of time before she got kicked to the curb anyway. I can't remember who it was that said it, but they were right in drawing the comparison between Heidi and Omarosa. I didn't like O to begin with but when you add lazy to the mix... I will be on my feet applauding in my living room when this one gets the boot.
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Maris
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03-28-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:19 am
I am with you on that Zules. I cant wait for Omarosa to get the boot. She is obnoxious and just plain nasty. Heidi wasnt that bad last night and someone said had it right. Heidi got the phone call about her mother but still put in 100% for her team. Omarosa gets hit with a paint chip and she is ready for disability. There is no way that Trump is going to take that woman on. She will probably sue him when the show is over for the pain and suffering she xperienced over the paint chip. I am glad Tammy is gone but both Donalds people were right, what was Katrina thinking putting Bill in charge of negotiating whe she is the real estate professional. She probably should have been fired.
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Moderator
Moderator
06-30-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:29 am
Please, guys. Let's comment on the behavior of these players in the game and not make everything a major personality flaw. Thank you! TVCH Mods <il>
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:35 am
I fully understand the disloyalty part. You don't have to agree with your company's stance on an issue, but you certainly do not publically take an competitor's side against your own company. When Tammy made that comment in the board room in front of Trump, she was basically saying her own company was wrong. In business, you have to have a united front around the competition. You save your opposing opinions for private meetings within your organization. As much as I felt Omarosa should have gone last night, I was relieved to see Tammy go. I literally cringed when she made the "duped" remark. I realized she was right in her assessment, but she had no clue about when to express it. That is what got her fired...imo
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 8:40 am
Mod, this game is about personality flaws - that is why they get fired. Donald has fired at least two people for their personalities.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 9:53 am
Thanks for clearing things up here, folks. Duped, not duped, and why, it was all very confusing. Okay, so Katrina thinks Troy unfairly took advantage of HER expertise as a realtor by causing her to reveal which apartment she thought was better and then going after that one. When, in fact, he used a diffferent underhanded technique of eavesdropping to gain the advantage of her expertise. LOL. I still thought it was an exciting episode since it seemed to be about 100% luck that Troy's team got their apartment rented at the last minute as they were facing certain defeat. The producers threw a lot of issues at us last night.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:04 am
Will they ever get rid of Omarosa? What a drama queen. She gets slightly bumped on the head but she is well enought to play ball with the kids on the street? If anyone should have been complaining, it should have been Heidi but she was a real trooper. I was glad to see Tammy go, as she really was a thorn in their sides. But, I was so disappointed with Katrina. She talked loud enough for Troy to hear about the apt. Then she agrees to a coin toss. How ridiculous was that. She is in the biz so I was totally shocked when she had Bill rent the apartment. She should have handled the negotiations. It seemed like the woman was very interested in the apt. but was acting cool. I believe she would have gone higher than $1650, IMHO.
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March
Member
10-02-2003
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:33 am
I am liking Troy more and more each week. I thought it was great the way he handled the apartment deal. She was the one that wanted to do the note thing and it backfired in her face. And then to try to place the blame on Troy in the boardroom for not getting the apartment she wanted. Tammy seems to have this way of sticking her foot in her mouth every week. Good that she is gone but I thought he was going to fire Katrina for not doing the negotiations herself.
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Sbw
Member
08-09-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:39 am
I have a feeling there was a lot cut out of that board room discussion that would make this a lot easier for us to understand. I wonder how long they are actually in the board room. I thought it was interesting how they kept showing Caroline smiling/smirking. I don't think she is impressed with Katrina/Omarosa at all. I wonder which one she likes the most.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 10:51 am
SBW you bring up a good question. just how long do they stay in the boardroom discussing what went wrong? i wondered too how much dt and his assistants see the days footage of what goes on. LOL O too ill to roll up her sleeves to work....but well enough to play a game of basketball with kids.
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:07 am
Rslover, I'm glad you said that about her talking loud enough for Troy to hear her. It's not like he was listening through a closed door or anything. She was pacing back and forth on the street speaking loudly enough for him to hear her several feet away and while listening to his team on the phone at the same time. Hopefully this will teach her to play it a little closer to the vest. I forgot to mention my favorite giggle moment of the night. When they were doing the duped/not duped thing and the Donald said to Katrina something like: "You say you've never been duped, well that's a bunch of crap...." The look on her face was priceless. I'm really looking forward to seeing it when he says "You're fired!"
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:22 am
ITA with everything everyone has said about this ep. Buggles, you explained the negotion/paper issue very well. It wasn't unti I was in bed about to fall asleep that I realized why she was so mad--he learned what she wanted without her learning what he wanted. Regardless of whether he overheard the phone convo, that's what made her mad. But I still can't take her side. Katarina was a big baby about it! Appalling behavior. If Trump thought Troy had been so unethical, let HIM jump on Troy. Don't go on like he stole your favorite toy. And then when Troy says she was being emotional, she defines that as crying. He never said that--he said emotional. Which she was. she was furious and ranting! I wanted O to be called on the carpet for being so lazy, but was SO glad Troy's team (unfortunately has O) didn't have to go before the board--finally!! He's awesome, and I want him to win. That whole duped/unethical discussion was weird. If Katarina was duped, wouldn't that make Troy unethical in her mind? But she insists she wasn't duped? Bizarro! (And then not saying she was EVER duped is just really dumb. Guess she never saw a magic show in her entire life.) I totally agree about Tammy leaving, but I also don't think she was being all that disloyal. Yes, if this were the real world, and these were two opposing companies, she should have kept her mouth shut. But Troy is her roommate, the teams keep getting switched up, so I can see why she felt the urge to defend him (heck, I wanted to defend him!). I think she was fired for all the stupid foot-in-mouth moments over the past weeks, not just last night's. And they were legion!
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:30 am
I forgot to mention: Wasn't that a typical over-achiever thing to do, when Katarina had a business plan for them? I loved how they said they weren't interested in seeing it. BWAH!!
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Faerygdds
Member
08-29-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:36 am
Sorry... didn't check back in until today... Thank you for letting me know. Personally, I think it was smart no matter how you look at it. She IS the realty "expert", therefore, he should have wanted her expertise in picking the apartment. Whether he knew beforehand or not, the absolute right answer about which apartment he wanted should have been, "Whichever one you want" because, after all... she knows more about realty than he did. However... for her to come back to the boardroom and cry foul is ridiculous! The reality is that no matter which apartment they chose, they should have been able to show a good profit from either place one the renovations were complete. That's the reality of the situation. Kat showed her true colors last night. Unfortunatley those colors are in shades of imaturity, pettiness, and lack of personal responsibility. As for Omarosa -- if you are hurt, you are NOT able to play basketball! Get in there and chip a nail for crying out loud! And Tammy -- my my my... There is a right and wrong thing to say and a right and wrong time and place to say it. If you don't agree with the whole team, don't say anything! And finally... if you can't add to the conversation intelligently. For goodness sakes, be QUIET!!! I'm kind of glad she was fired. It was almost horrifying watching her insert her foot into her and her teammates mouths!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 11:47 am
Great show! ITA with almost everything posted here.
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 1:26 pm
One more thought: I believe Katerina elected Bill to make the actual sale because she wanted someone else to blame if their team lost. Which she tried to do. That, and blame Troy for "stealing" the other apartment from her. Blech. Bad sport all around. As for Omarosa--did we ever see her do any work? Lift a paintbrush? That bit about calling everyone together for meetings when they were in the middle of painting was funny. And she wasn't even the team leader!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:13 pm
I was very impressed with Heidi last nite. She hung in there and worked hard even though she had a lot on her mind. I also heard her tell her mom, 'you say the word and I will be there' indicating that if her mom needed her she would quit this show. I have not liked her from the beg. but after last nite I am rooting for her. Still want Troy to win though Troy is a great man and I would love to work for/with him. He always takes time to be personal with ppl, I loved when he huggged Heidi. DT was very nice to have that talk with Heidi and I thought she handled it well, and she really did seem touched he took time to do it. Oma....did she not know cameras were filming her??? crying about her head then goes banging a ball??
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Cassie
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:21 pm
Omarosa--the Queen of Haught! I cannot wait to see that one go. She must feel like crap though when she sees the looks on everyone's face every time she comes back from the boardroom unfired. They ALL look so crestfallen to learn that she's still there. Maybe though she's just used to getting that kind of reaction from people. She is just not a likeable person.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:21 pm
Dynair..I agree about that saying!! I was ROTF!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:23 pm
I could not believe the prices on those little apts!!!! My mortgage for a 5 bedroom 4 bath house is only 1200..and I am in CA!!!!!
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Cassie
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, February 20, 2004 - 2:25 pm
Jeez, Pamy, you got a lot of cleaning to do!
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