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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 5:50 pm
I won't put spoilers here, but if you want some "proof" of some of the gay guys, go to the Fox site where there are pictures posted of guys in gay bars and one shown with a partner. As is said over and over there though, anyone can say they're anyone - a friend of, a cousin of, blah blah, but a lot of it has some facts, if not pictures to pass it up. Yep, there's going to be women crying "no fair!" when they see who some of these guys are. LOL One of my gay friends dated a guy who produced one of the "dating" shows and he said there's tons of gay guys who go on these shows just for "face time" on TV. I also think she should just go with one who she thinks floats her boat and she gets "vibes" back from him. Someone shoving their tongue down your throat is not proof of being str8. Believe me, I know. LOLOL
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 5:51 pm
I have an idea for a sinister "joke". The hostess(whatshername)tells the guys "You will all be getting tattoos that read 'I AM GAY' on your foreheads" She then waits 15 seconds and goes "GOTCHA" Maybe I have too much time on my hands? 
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:06 pm
Hairdryer or not, here is Bradley in a gay bar!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:15 pm
Ahhh... Rslover, you did it! LOL I was afraid someone might be mad if I "spoiled." I should have said go to the on the FOX site. There are some picture links of other contestants there, too. 
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:17 pm
I actually found it before you even posted. How apropo!
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:20 pm
My BIL is gay and living in the "heart of the gayest neighborhood in America" as Josh said and I have been to parties he's thrown and there is no way I would ever be able to guess who is gay or not. The guys I have met have been all shapes and sizes and not the "stereotypical" at all. I think like Josh said, she ought to try and make connections with these men and if whoever she picks turns out to be gay, well at least, she will have made a connection with a wonderful new friend.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:28 pm
I have been to gay bars and I am straight, so I am not sure if a pic at a gaybar makes them gay I will be pissed if at the end they tell us none of the guys were gay. I think this would have been better if the audience was told who was that way we could see how she interacts with them
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:54 pm
Watching2 - "I won't put spoilers here, but if you want some "proof" of some of the gay guys, go to the Fox site where there are pictures posted of guys in gay bars and one shown with a partner" Okay, I've looked all over fox.com and I con't find any pix of any guys in any bars, gay or str8. Can you post a link so I can see what you're talking about? (I assume it's not the same link that Rslover posted, since that is not on the Fox site)
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:00 pm
Sanfran, That's where I found it!There are links all over the place. I know who you're talking about too. Does anyone really care about spoiling? It would seem like it would be fun to know as we watch. I figured it would be funny to post about Bradley because of the hairdryer incident (not that I thought that meant anything).
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:06 pm
Rslover - your link was oilcanharrys.com, but Watching2 said gay bar pix were on the Fox site. Where are there links on the Fox site to gay bar pix? Also, how did you happen to find the oilcanharry link to Bradley?
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:20 pm
Josh, The links are on the discussion boards at FOX. I'll go and try to copy some links for you. I hope they work, I'm not always good at putting in working links. 
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:22 pm
This is from a gay bar called "Twist" in South Beach. http://www.geocities.com/twistsobe/lucianoatbar4.JPG Ok, that's not the one with the actual bar page, so I'll go back and try to get that one for you. More to come. 
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:26 pm
http://www.oilcanharrys.com/PeoplePics/Oilcan'sfall-winter03-04%20128.jpg http://www.oilcanharrys.com/PeoplePics/MoreOCHfal-winter03-04%20017.jpg One of these is the same as the one Rslover already posted.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:29 pm
http://www.factorynightclub.com/pictures/1002/BP13.jpg This is Bill
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:33 pm
Yep, that's the one with the partner. Actually, the first link is what I posted but your doesn't link to it. Your second link is another photo taken in the same bar. Pamy, Well, I'll be somewhat shocked if all these guys in the gay bars are straight. It will make me think that this was really staged and thought out ahead of time!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:38 pm
Ok, here's the one to the Twist nightclub which has the other pic of Luciano on it. http://www.geocities.com/twistsobe/gallery.htm I should have checked those links, Rs! You're right, the first one doesn't work! acck. Sorry folks.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:40 pm
Ok, this is the actual club page which shows Bill on it. Scan down the page. Apparently he's a manager there and it has the picture from above, plus others. http://www.factorynightclub.com/pictures/blackparty.html A gay guy posted this link and said here was Bill dancing inbetween all the other "st8 guys." LOL http://www.laboy.com/event_gallaries/free_boat/P1040113.JPG This is the main page where it lists his name and then gives links to his b-day party pics. http://www.laboy.com/event_gallaries/event_gallaries.html
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:43 pm
I knew that Luciano was gay immediately!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:48 pm
Rs - He's just too hot not to be. I think what this show did was pick particularly masculine gay men and some more effeminate str8 guys just to play w/everyone. Although, those of us who watch a lot of reality shows should KNOW THIS! LOL I still think Ryan is, even if he says he's not or maybe doesn't follow the above theory. He was trying too hard to play str8. "Did you see that rack?" uggh..
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:56 pm
The bios are supposedly not completely accurate. It says Bradley is from Pflugerville, PA, but it doesn't exist (according to a message board poster). There is a Pflugerville, TX which is near Oilcanharry's in Austin, where he works. He is also a member of Austin Men's Project. Supposedly, he is from Wells, TX. Pamy, Still not convinced?
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 7:58 pm
SPOILER SUMMARY AHEAD so that gives us Bill, Luciano and Bradley so far, n'est-ce pas?
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:03 pm
Watching2, I know what you mean. Trying to say something he thought a straight guy would say. Then he added "supple" in such an effeminate voice, it was hysterical. I thought Ryan was gay too, but after reading that he was on Elimidate I started to have doubts. I know you could be gay and go on the show but why bother? Why not go on Boy Meets Boy? He could be bi. Me thinks he's looking for acting gigs.......
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:05 pm
Jan, Oui, Oui No one has said they don't want spoilers. They were all before your post, anyway. LOL.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:05 pm
ROFL RSlover! I think we can say convinced on Bradley. heh heh. Pamy does have a point though. I go to gay bars w/friends AND one time last year when my daughter's friends wanted me to come out with them, I was watching this VERY HOT guy who was sitting near me and wondered why the heck he was alone! Later on he started DJing and a gay guy and I were joking around and I told him I wondered how he could be so hot and alone and he said, "Oh he IS straight!" But he did have a girlfriend who wasn't there at the time. Thing is, in that particular club, it has the major drag show in the city (it was featured on VH1) and there is a huge mix of people there, esp. on show nites. That nite there were tons of str8 couples dancing right along with gay couples. I'd love to see that everywhere. Someday........ hopefully. Josh, I have some friends who lived in the Castro area. Two of them moved out to the "burbs" so it's a bit less expensive and another actually moved out of the country. They're still in the city a lot either for work/church/etc., but you know what rents are in the city. And just to show you how people are geared to thinking about SF, when my nephew got married, his new cousin-in-law had to make a disclaimer that he was str8 even though he lived there. A lot of people immigrate there. His family is from Russia originally. FWIW.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 8:10 pm
RS - As far as Ryan on Elimidate - See my post above as to my friend who dated a producer of one of those shows. Can't say for sure which show it is, BUT... he said for sure there are gay guys on the show. They want camera time and those shows play more often than shows like Boy Meets Boy AND..they can also be seen as str8.
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