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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone else notice that Kristi was wearing different clothes when she got in the taxi - she had on high heels in the board room and boots when she got in a taxi. Did she change in the elevator?

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well said Babyboo.

Personally, I didn't think what Jesse did was so awful, I mean, it's not like she went out of her way to trash Kristi, DT asked her a direct question and she answered honestly, I didn't get the feeling she enjoyed saying anything bad about Kristi, but bottom line was Kristi screwed up PERIOD, it was no one's fault but hers, Jesse was just being honest. Those umbrellas were awful and it was Kristi's idea, she did not lead well, it was very sad. They'd be crazy to fire Omarosa, she's very sharp and I think she'll go very far.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Babyboo: No, not everyone can be a beauty queen. But everyone can aspire to radiate an inner beauty. Heidi has never done that--ever. <il> I would find her far less physically unattractive if her behavior hadn't been so ugly.

<il>

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Roxi, I noticed that too.
Heidi just seems so angry to me all the time.

Yuhuru
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09-27-2001

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
they gave us a sneak peek at Jessie last week. she didn't think katrina was a good leader. she accused katrina of getting defensive/angry. i got the impression that she was plating mind games with katrina. does anyone else remember this?

i wonder how the women feel being called "pretty girls" so much

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I bet Heidi finds $186 in her pants pocket next week.....

Babyboo
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06-16-2003

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lmao!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kristi went wrong when she put up Heidi instead of Jesse IMO. Heidi did nothing wrong that I could see and neither did Omirisa. Omarisa(sp), handled herself just fine, it wasn't her fault that Kristi can't hold onto the money. It was probably pick pocketed from her on the subway.


Suitsmefine
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07-29-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yuhuru, I remember Jessie and the Katrina thing from last week....Jessie is the one who moved some of the tables down from the restruant for people to sit and order hors deurves or some such nonsense, before going upstairs....no-one used them so katrina told her it wasn't working out and Jessie got all funky trying to make Katrina look like she was making it personal against Jessie, I think she is a snake!

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Laura, I thought you made an interesting point about Jesse. Like others here I had thought she backstabbed Kristi in a major way. I never cared for her previously in the show, she seems hypercritical & overly competitive. Not a team player. So her actions seemed to corroborate my original impression of her.

However, your comments made me think that maybe Jesse felt she HAD to be honest... you're right, she did not say anything more to trash Kristi. I believe that Kristi & Jesse both privately agreed that the leader is to blame - didn't Jesse tacitly confirm Kristi's perspective on this by NOT saying 'it's not your fault Kristi, it's so & so's fault?'

I would not go so far as to say that this 21-yr-old 'manipulated' the mind of this restaurant owner. I think they both truly felt that Kristi was most to blame. And Jesse's advice not to speak to DT unless spoken to wasn't all bad. I think they both really believed that DT would respect her more if she owned up to her responsibility as a leader instead of trying to shift the blame. It was an error in judgement if you want to call it that, or maybe like Kristi said on The View today, she may just have a different value system than DT.

I think where the problem may have been, which Meredith Viera suggested, was the WAY in which Kristi accepted the blame. She did not sell herself at all, or give any suggestion that she really wanted the job. It may have helped her to at least SAY 'As a restaurant owner I believe the responsibility falls on the leader, no excuses... this is what I have learned in this endeavor...' instead of just sitting there meekly, almost like she wanted or expected to go.

As for Jesse's response to DT, it would be unfair to expect to her to put the blame elsewhere when that's not what she believed. I don't think Kristi expected her to do that... she didn't look surprised (to me) at Jesse's response to DT.

And, if Jesse were to falsely lay blame elsewhere, that would not have been fair to someone else. So maybe instead of being a backstabber, she was playing with integrity... I don't know. It's not like she volunteered the info. She was just saying what she believed when put on the spot, and if she were to blame someone else, DT would be judging that & she'd have to back it up. Maybe then he would question her judgment & it would reflect badly on her.

But regardless, I still don't particularly care for her lol :-)

My favorite is Nick, followed by Amy. I was so happy to see Nick shine!




Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked the fact that Nick kind of had a "glow" myself. Bill was my fav male after the prev. ep. but now I may be leaning to Nick (kinda looks like DT is). I still see Erika has a chance as well as Amy, Jessie, & Osa??(you know). I think these 5 are going to chew up & 1 at a time spit out the rest. Heidi can't leave too soon for me.

Purplecow
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12-08-2003

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Two words: cash box

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
fanny pack

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
2 words - fanny pack

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was totally shocked! How can you make less than the money that was given to you? I would have fired all of them! As one lady said, they would have done better to stay in their apartment.

I wonder how much experience some of these people have with real people.

First big mistake is never take a booth inside when there are booths outside. Always, more traffic outside. Obvisiously, they picked the wrong merchandise to sell, since they came out negative.

The winning group picked what always sells at flea markets everywhere = jewelry and t-shirts. The lady was right about choosing large size t-shirts to sell and they bought medium and small. The guy was right at 4 oclock to get whatever money they could.

Anyway, I am enjoying the series.

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i would blame omarosa if she had intentionally taken the money (someone mentioned earlier they wouldn't blame her). dishonest is dishonest and nothing makes it right. i don't know what happened to the money, but i would blame anyone who intentionally took it.
i am not liking any of the women right now except for amy. i think amy and one of the guys hook up.

now, next week, they could edit to where amy is just as bad i sometimes find omarosa or tammy or heidi or jessie, but right now, she is my fave to win this whole thing.

nick scares me. i think the donald only likes him because he has red hair! sees himself "pre-combover" age 9..... LOL

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 12:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I suspect the hookup will be Nick & Katrina. There was some flirting going on last time & she called him 'sexy' :-)

Tabbyking, can I ask why you find Nick scary? He's the only one who DOESN'T scare me lol... seems to be the only one with morals & maturity & professionalism. Amy doesn't seem bad judging from the show either though it looks like she can be a cat from her bio on the NBC website.


Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 1:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Btw, I didn't mean to suggest earlier that Omarosa couldn't have rightly shared in the blame... but even if you could peg her for the missing money that still doesn't nearly account for the team's loss overall. Why did the team lose? You can't really say it was the missing money & Omarosa. Though of course it certainly didn't help matters any.



Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 4:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
When the wife and I sat down to watch the show we paused it right after they explained the task and swapped "what we would do" and since both of us are from NYC we had inside thoughts.

But we were not clear if either of our ideas were within the rules because they didn't really explain the rules of the task very clearly. Now I'm sure they gave the teams VERY detailed rules... but not us.

Now, I think one of the major draws of this show is the audience "playing along" and thinking about what we would do in their situation. In this show, they really took us out of it by not detailing the rules better. I feel like they screwed us. Someone took the day off and forgot to tell the production people, "make sure you give the viewers enough info to play along."

The stated rules were: "You have a budget of 1,000 dollars, you are going to go and and you are going to buy whatever products you want to, and you are going to take those items to a flea market and re-sell them- hopefully for higher price. The team that makes the most profit at the end that wins."

(I'll get to our ideas later- but they were both better than what either team did.)

Back to the show...

LOL that Omarosa was picked last when they re-did the teams. Nobody wanted her. (And she knew it.)

I am glad that Kristi got the boot. She was the biggest wanna-be on the show. She has her SAG card. She wants to be on TV. She was in Red Show Diaries. And she runs a bar. (Not getting the serious business interest thing from her.) Anyway... buh-bye Kristi. I won't miss you.


We both decided that you have to focus on ONE product.

The wife would have gone down to Canal street and bought knock-off designer hand-bags and belts.

Or rent someone else's booth for the same 1,000 and run it. Whatever is left they buy it back from you.

I would have gone to a local grocery that sells soda and bags of ice. You're getting the sodas for .50 cents each... can sell em up around $2 at least... plus when there is an hour left in the day, you can take all the leftovers back to the store and get your money back, so there is no loss. You won't get stuck with inventory. To push this, you could have purchased a blender and made special drinks.


So who stole the money? There was no camera that caught the loss? Did they hide it. Was it stolen? Sabotage?

Now... Jesse back-stabbed Kristi in the board room with her comment. Heidi was a beach and she will never work for trump.

Again, DT booted Kristi NOT for how she performed during the task... but for the fact that she didn't defend herself enough. WELL! THAT could have gone both ways. She made no excuses. She was stand up enough to take responsibility. (I think DT wanted to get rid of her, for whatever reasons.)

It seems that DT is reacting to perceived potential and not actual performance.

Heidi is a pain and won't last too much longer.



That scene in Yankee Stadium??? "You're great." "No, you're great." Between DT and George. Er-hum.


Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
let's not forget DT's and George's: "i love you" "i love you, too"...
DT always has to show he is everyone's favorite guy. it is always my golf course, or my famous hollywood actor friends, or my table at this restaurant. MY barf bag, please:-)

nick is too intense and rodenty. he just feels like a less crazy sam to me! appears to be some real insecurities but he will latch on to something else being the problem. he didn't have great ideas for the restaurant, for example, but decided to go on and on about the kwame signing. no one ever said kwame was a sports celebrity. and they do have something signed by someone 'famous'. they'll see him on this show. i am ready to sign 'kwame' balls myself and sell them on eBay LOL
just kidding. but nick seems kind of a weenie to me.
liking the cigar store guy best right now. bill? is that his name?

Cassie
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07-15-2000

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with you about Nick, Tabby. He seems like a real weasel to me. Did you notice how he had to get the girls' permission about any idea he did have on the flea market. I think he's immature and slimy. I can see DT chosing him though as he seems to like him. Again, this show has made me wonder where in God's name they find the contestants for these reality shows.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Cassie!

I, personally, think Nick is just way out of his league in this situation. One gets the feeling, back home, he's a big fish in a small pond. Here he's trying to stand out and is having a hard time doing so (for the right reasons).

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh man, you guys! Check this out:

NBC to Trump: You're not fired

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Donald Trump can look forward to job security with NBC.

"The Apprentice," the reality series featuring business mogul Trump and contestants vying to work for him, has been renewed for a second season.

"We always knew that 'The Apprentice' was an original and smart alternative to other reality shows," Trump said Friday. "I can't wait to get back in the boardroom for season two."

Trump, also serving as executive producer with Mark Burnett ("Survivor"), has helped give NBC a "red-hot" hit, said NBC Entertainment President Jeff Zucker.

"The Apprentice," which airs on Thursdays, was the No. 8 show last week and drew nearly 19 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research.

Zucker predicted that "The Apprentice" will "have an appointment on NBC for many years to come."

Sixteen new contestants will be chosen for the competition to film in and around Manhattan, NBC said. A fall premiere is likely.



Maris
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03-28-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am waiting for Martha Stewarts apprentice show so we can see some men flashing some skin in their quest to impress the boss. Of course, her show could be "Who wants to be Marthas Prison Beaach"

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The lovefest between DT & George -I've seen the same with DT & Mark Burnett on interviews. This is how DT operates. And one reason why I think he likes Nick... he's very free-flowing with the compliments, in contrast to just about everyone else there who has their claws out. Meeeow! :-)

I love hearing everyone's perspective here... personally I thought Nick stood out as being particurly secure. When the entire group was on a 'witchhunt' for Sam, he didn't join in the ferocity... it takes a very secure person to stand a bit apart from the crowd, especially early on. Nick was the only one who saw or acknowledged Sam's positive qualities, the way that DT did, and didn't freak because Sam was different.

I was stunned when Troy told DT in the boardroom that Sam should be fired because he was a 'maverick' (!!) Who did he think he was interviewing with LOL? At least Sam understood who DT *was.* From the expression on DT's face it was clear to me that Troy did himself in right there.

Nick also struck me as secure by sharing the credit for 'his' win with the other team members. He seems to enjoy complimenting others, much like DT with his evil (???) back-slapping :-) I think it comes from a genuine place. But even if it were superficial, I'd take that any day over the hatred, backstabbing, etc that most of the others are exhibiting.