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Arm22

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Immunity, I also think Nick is a suck up. I still like him, but when he gets into the boardroom, his manner of speech changes. So it seems like he says what Donald wants to here.
I think Donald is smart enough to catch on pretty quickly.

Julieboo

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Omarosa. Only time I didn't was when Ereka said (2nd episode) something about calling the kettle black and right away (though it coulda been editing) Omarosa pulled out the race card. She dropped to the bottom of my card on that one. But since then she's been great. Katrina is a jerk and a dork--all that "I'm a caring person" crap got on my nerves. Hope K and E go before O does.

Zules

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nevermind.

Whoami

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Texannie, yes I did see the look on Sam's face when he heard he was fired. I thought it was rather scary too. Thank goodness it was a more controlled situation, who knows if he'd have actually gone off on DT. He needed to be fired. He was too over the top. He might make a good salesman, cause he just won't shut up. I wouldn't buy anything from him. But I could see where someone could finally break down and buy something just to shut him up and get him away from them.

Scorpiomoon, you mentioned that you thought maybe Omarosa's horrible behavior had been edited out. Well, come to think of it I haven't seen anything way over the top with her. But on the first two shows I got a real bad vibe from her, mostly in her solo interviews. There's a definite arrogance to her, and those first two episodes I never heard her say anything that wasn't bad-mouthing the other women.

On last night's show though, I did like how she seemed to soften up a bit and actually talk with some respect about the other three women she was working with during the task. But I was pretty annoyed at the start of the show when she got up and refused to talk out the differences, talked over the other women and would just have nothing to do with them or let them finish their sentences (I will admit that its a huge pet peeve of mine when someone refuses to let me finish a sentence).

As far as the arm grabbing, I don't know if I saw it as an assault or not. The beginning of the conversation (before it got heated), Katrina was all touchy/feely/grabby then too (though not really aggressivly). It could be that she's just one of those touchy/feely type people. Not that that's OK. Cause part of a working relationship is to understand other people's boundries on personal space and such. Omarsara handled it well enough (though I don't know what her personal boundries are in regard to touch). When it got to the point that Katrina tried to impede her exit, then she did shrug her off and tell her to not touch her. Katrina is lucky she got only that much. Cause if someone with as strong a personality like Omarosa has also had a huge personal space issue, it could have resulted in Katrina getting smacked aside.

The women should have been penalized for this task. They didn't negotiate....they begged/pleaded and coerced. Like that one woman said, that's not negotiating. And they were supposed to be using negotiating skills. I'm also glad to see they will be called on the carpet for their behavior.

By watching Survivor, we do know that MB does seem to like to "help" the other "tribe" when the chips are down by tailoring a "challenge" to suit their strengths. I'd like to see him do a task that would be hurtful if they used sex as a selling point (like doing business with a monastery or something).

I think it could easily backfire if the women try to lose a task so they can get rid of Omarosa. Whereas she is a (but not the only) catalyst for a lot of the tension in the women's group, she is a team player when it comes to executing the task, no matter how she feels about the tactics personally. Also, I believe in the business world the managers would actually favor a strong confident personality in a woman. I don't think DT would see her as a weak member at all. I could see him keeping her around for quite a while and firing some of the other women first. The only way I could see him firing Omarosa first is if he actually listened to the other women's complaints about her (personal experience in the corporate world tells me that won't happen), or if his assistants made some observations of her that he didn't see.

Scorpiomoon

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whoami: You're right. At the beginning of the conversation, if I'm not mistaken, O amd K were holding hands. Again, if I remember correctly, K was getting more and more upset and O said she was walking away. And then, I think, K said, "Listen to me!" or "Don't walk away from me!" or something similiar and grabbed her arm to, seemingly, keep O in the room.

Re: O getting up from the meeting: I don't blame her! As soon as (whomever it was) said, "The pilot looked disgusted. I won't mention any names..." I don't blame O for feeling attacked because obviously the reference was about her. I would have gotten up and left as well.

Egads! I didn't realize how I have this passionate need to defend this woman! :)

Hereiam

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Could someone help me? They didn't show scenes for next week after the showing by me... they just showed scenes for the show I had just watched. I went to the NBC site and they don't have scenes available. From bits I have picked up from reading the messages the scenes showed some good stuff. What did they show????

Also, I agree with everyone else... I am SO tired of seeing the women use sex for everything! Maybe they could do a phone campaign or something not in person where it would be harder for them to do that. I don't know. I find myself cheering on the guys and I didn't think that was going to happen at the start of the show.

Maris

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good for you Scorpio. There isn't one person on this show I feel compelled to defend. I am almost embarrassed watching all the women. The men are grovelling so much their noses will be brown six months after this show is over. I should also add that it will be interesting to see if anyone wants to be the project leader next week. Two weeks in a row the project leader of the losing team has walked the plank so to speak.

I would be doing a Jack on this one, flying under the radar.

Barbiemouse

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sam was very scary last night. Could have been just the camera angle and the fact that he didn't get up for so long, but he looked evil. Last week I defended him because Jason wouldn't even listen to his ideas. This week Sam did the very same thing. And the other guys were right! They should have gone ahead and gotten the stuff they had and not wasted time going back and forth. Plus the gold could have been gotten at any time. The women did pretty good on the gold, although I didn't like their methods. Once again they acted like high school girl pouting and using sex as a way to get something from a guy!
Omarosa was right to leave Katrina. What was all that "I'm a good person" stuff? If she had said that to me I would immediately call her out and ask why she was saying I wasn't a good person. Omarosa has incredible self-control. The thing that bothered me about her though was she said things about how she used to work for Bill Clinton and you don't sit with the president if you aren't competent, etc. If she is that great,why is she on TV trying to get a job that will only last for a year? With a resume like that, she should be able to get a great job without going through all this. Makes me wonder if there is something she is hiding. Was she fired? Did she create a bad situation and can't get good references?
I hope the guys do better now that Sam is gone. It will be interesting to see if they can pull it together now.

Denecee

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I love, love, love this show! I was cracking up at Sam. Nobody has said anything about Sam sitting by the door until someone greeted him. He said that when he goes to his parents house they greet him at the door, so he was camping out by the front door for the longest time. I didn't catch it if they showed somebody finally coming to greet him. I know he needed to be fired but he was fun to watch. Something tells me that we haven't seen the last of him.
I liked Omarisa tonight. She has got her stuff together. I'm not good with the names but there are three women that need to go,imo. The one with the reddish hair and her partner who were begging the gold bar guy for $10.off the price. That drove me nuts! Then the girl that confronted Omarisa about not being a nice person, she seems nice but not president material.

Denecee

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Another thing that nobody has commented on, the way Troy kept having to tell Sam to close his eyes and count to 10. LMAO! Sam would just be in a craze and Troy would put him in some kind of trance or something. Funny stuff!

Tabbyking

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh my heck. i thought sam's head was going to start spinning around and flames shoot out of his eyes!
poor little wacko-dude!

Tabbyking

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
also, what was with the football game stuff? i loved the guy who said if they only had 20 seconds left of a game, why was sam talking through all of it! his little 'boss' hat, and his long, long talks on the phone and his refusing to give a phone number for one address and an incorrect one for a second place of business.
man, he is totally certifiable!

Realfan

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't care for Omarosa's attitude. Katrina was trying to mend fences, and they were holding hands (no idea who started that). She strikes me as a very condescending person who refuses to listen to other people. Still, she knew how to push Katrina's buttons, and Katrina fell for it hook, line and sinker. Omarosa should realize that while she doesn't have to be liked, she does need to get along well enough so that they can work together. Maybe now the girls who were in her team will feel more bonded to her and she'll relax some.

I adore Troy "be the hat" Man. He's so laid back! Sam would have been lost without him (and so patient with the spazziness of Sam).

I think the men are WAY overthinking their tasks. Having a base camp doing research should have helped, but instead that put only three guys on the street compared to the women's eight. On top of that, all that useless drivel about the price of gold, as if they were trading huge quantities instead of buying a single bar.

I wish I knew the rules. Were they not allowed to go to pawn shops (like for the golf club)? Did it have to be a new item? Inquiring minds want to know...

Rslover

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Realfan,
The items had to be new because they were supposed to pay less than the retail price. The guys should have known that the gold was the least negotiable item on the list.

I just heard that Sam bought an apt. in one of Trump's buildings after he fired him. The guy must have bucks. They also said he would be interested in a radio talk show.

Maris

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what I didnt understand is why the men went to the fulton fish market in the first episode to sell lemonade but it didnt occur to any of them to get their calimari there. I kept thinking, the fish market guys, forget Canal street.

Luvmykitties

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I LOVE this show as well.

It was interesting to watch DT on the Today show yesterday - before that episode ran.
He cracks me up the way he talks about Sam.

I was hysterical with Sam staying at the door also! And nobody even checked on him (at least not that we saw).
In my house growing up, nobody met you at the door to greet you. Then again, both of my parents worked and weren't home when I got home from school. And I was already out of the house when I was in the working world.

Part of me will miss Sam - for his quirky antics. But I would have been mad if he squeaked by again. That would have been so unrealistic.

And I am also glad the girls get called out on the "sex sells" thing. I'd like to see what they are capable of in a professional manner.

I wonder if the guys will get in trouble for impersonating a sports person - especially if they were charging money for that.

Next week definitely looks good - as usual.

Pamy

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Denecee..Sam sitting at the door, taking his pants off, doing yoga had me ROTF! Did he say HIS PARENTS greet him at the door when he comes home??!!!

I think MB wanted to keep Sam for ratings but I think DT said he couldn't keep him any longer without like a stupid business man.

In Sam's defense...looking at the tape again..it appears like they freeze framed 'that look' and just kept looping the footage...it was funny though!

I bet the girls lose next week. It will be interesting to see how the guys do without having to baby Sam.

Troy is my fav, he comes off as a really decent guy

Pamy

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Another funny thing was how Sam acting about the DT handshake!! God, he was like a giddy 13 yr old girl! LOL..and then Troy steps in..be the hat Sam, be the hat ! hahahahhahh

Eliz87

Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep...the look on Sam's face was frightening. I actually had to look away, and I'm not that easily scared. I thought he was going to "go off" for sure. Whew!

Zules

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Denecee - I'm soooooo insulted! Obviously, my posts are not worthy of your time. <<sniffle, sniffle>>

I mentioned the two things you said nobody mentioned:

I, for one, am glad to see Sam gone. I thought he should have been tossed after falling asleep on the job. It'll be interesting to see how the guys do without him there. And what the heck was that stupid thing about someone greeting him properly at the door all about? What a loon!

and...

Oh, yeah, and I really like Troy so far. The way he would handle Sam gave me the impression he would be good with kids.

I am patiently awaiting my brownie points.

Realfan

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, Pamy, I think the murderous look was an editing trick, too. But I still laughed my butt off over it!

The waiting at the door thing was weirdly funny, too.

Dlkuhn4

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sam asked his girlfriend to marry him on The Today Show.
She said yes so I guess in way he won anyway.

Denecee

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Zules, consider your brownie pts awarded! I'm so sorry. That had me rolling when Sam stubbornly would not leave the front door. My excuse for not seeing your posts is that sometimes my boss(can you believe this) will interrupt my online time with silly little business questions and I lose my place in the reading of the excellent post by my fellow posters. Please forgive.

Zules

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Denecee ~

Whoo hoo! I love Brownie points! All is forgiven! And don't worry, my boss has that pesky little habit too....drat!

Sam looked pretty nutty practicing yoga in his undies by the door. Too funny!

Tabbyking

Friday, January 23, 2004 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i loved him saying his parents greeted him at the door every day. from the way he said it, he lived at home. (of course your parents would greet you at the door if you came to visit. i think he still lived at home. didn't he say, 'every day'?)they probably bought him the apartment to get out of that chore:)
was his girlfriend 'normal' or hyper? i guess what i'm asking is, did she have to get into the fetal position and take her pants off before answering sam?