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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:14 pm
Ok, I went all the way back on this thread and I have no idea where some people have gotten the idea that there is some kind of set-up going on. Omarosa just sat there, in front of your eyes, and lied and that lie has resulted in big problems that could have been avoided if she had not lied and refused to interrupt her dinner with those pesky little professional duties. I'm thinking the set-up may have been that whole performance on Oprah. Donald playing it cool, Heidi playing it cool, both knowing that tonight all of America would see for themselves the value of Omarosa's words. Or should I say, the apparent lack of value. I hope that after this she is really finished and that anyone who ever considered hiring her or heaven forbid, publishing some sort of "tell-all" will realize all they might get is a "lie-all".
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Starshine40
Member
07-30-2002
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:18 pm
hmmmmmmm, I don't think I agree with all of you that Omarosa messing up is a setup. Diane (who had called O at dinner and called to talk to Kwame later) seemed to be really ticked off about the situation, not once but twice.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:28 pm
I don't think it's a set-up either. She lied, more than once, purely to save face. Why couldn't she just have gone to Jessica's dad, say their driver is there waiting but there is no sign of her, ask if she changed flights, and he would have picked up the phone and called her to find out. No harm, no foul. Funny how she couldn't be interrupted from her dinner to take care of business, but couldn't have dinner with Jessica's dad. I think Kwame should have fired her. He can't go back to Donald and blame O if he loses this, he's the boss on this one. I don't understand why they would have brought back her, of all people, to play employee. She would have been a detriment to either one of them. But, I still don't think it's a setup.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:32 pm
She was Oma-gawd (!) amazing tonight! Better than ever, if that's possible. I was Oma-whelmed with the way she handled that phone call she got during dinner and I thought she had the most Oma-tastic response when that woman had the nerve to call Kwame's room the next day. "I'll call you back," she said, with the greatest Oma-tude possible. And what could that woman with the feathered hair say, really? It's the height of Oma-ticity, folks. And I'm loving it!
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:37 pm
Oh, I forgot to add... I didn't see Oprah today, but if Trump was praising Omarosa, I'd take it with a grain of salt. He certainly wasn't praising her on SNL! He even joked that you couldn't believe anything she has to say.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:40 pm
Tishala, you are too funny! Love her or hate her, I think we probably all had Oma-gawd expressions on our faces watching tonight's show!
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:41 pm
It's funny, because I would think it's just the opposite: when he is on a COMEDY show, he makes jokes about the lovely Ms. Omarosa because she is the most well-known (and villified) character on the show, while on Oprah, which is not a comedy, he can say what he thinks. I'd also note that one is written by others and on one he speaks his own thoughts.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:48 pm
i just heard on our news that the runner-up will be offered 25k from KFC for one week of brainstorming on promoting some new menu items.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:54 pm
I agree with starshine about the contact with Diane, I almost added that, but my post was getting too long. I'm not sure if Tishala likes Oma or not, but love the post. I also took note that Kwame was the one who went to talk to Joe. Whachwanna bet that Kwame and Joe are on the phone with Jessica while Oma is finally feeling the heat of her mistake. My hope is that Kwame is pulling this thing out of the ditch all by himself ( well, with Joe's help ) Now as to old Billy Boy down at the golf course, he doesn't need a sabatour, he is doing fine all by himself. His complete lack of regard for the needs and feelings of the employees who were already in place at the GC really shows his character. I have a prediction Ladies and Gentlemen......The Winner is: Well, you know.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:56 pm
Hay, Tabby, you are up late. Love the idea of Bill coming up with KFC menu ideas, he can start with some crow followed by humble pie. 
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, April 08, 2004 - 11:57 pm
Sun, I like the lovely Oma just because nobody else does. I have a sense she's lonely and that's NOT Oma-riffic! I want her to feel Oma-nificent as she receives my standing Oma-vation when she comes out on the final show! I'm sure the winner will be able to thank her....one way or another.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:00 am
But Tish, I've seen your stuff in News and Views, just think of Oma with a stupid smirk and icky hair do and a Texas accent and I'm sure you can get over your pity.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:05 am
LOL. 
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Crossfire
Member
08-07-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:18 am
Catching up here. Sunrvrose, about this bit:
Ok, I went all the way back on this thread and I have no idea where some people have gotten the idea that there is some kind of set-up going on. I hope I interpreted this right, but your second paragraph is almost exactly what I would write to describe the set-up. The lie IS the set-up. From there we see things spiraling out of control. It is a fire Kwame is going to have to put out if he wants to be successful. If O is playing us up, she is not going to solve this on his behalf. He is going to have to take control of the situation. I don't know if this describes reality, but I am having a hard time coming up with any other realistic explanation that does not reflect extremely poorly on O. 
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:32 am
Crossfire, you described the situation perfectly. Based on all that we have seen of O in her post show appearances, there is no way she is part of a set up. We have seen her fly from guest spot to guest spot and her stories get wilder and wilder. Till today, on Oprah, she now says, "I have forgiveness in my heart and I don't want to talk about these things anymore." She said almost exactly the same thing to Erica today on Oprah that she said on the show tonight when Troy asked her who was on the phone, "I'm not having that conversation." Just my opinion, but I really think Oma was rightfully set up by her own deeds on tonight's show. Mark and the Donald said, over and over, that Oma's allegations were unfounded. Now America has clearly seen her lie with our own eyes. What possible motive could they have for showing that other than to expose her dishonesty?
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:38 am
So, sorry to keep going on and on, but, so.... it would only be to their detriment to have her lie as a part of a set-up by them. See what I mean?
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Crossfire
Member
08-07-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:38 am
And that is the other side isn't it? I did not see the Opera show, but it sounds very troubling as described. I am trying to avoid thinking really horrible things about her, but she is making it very difficult. Whatever happens, happens, I am finding this quite exciting either way as it plays out.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:42 am
I believe it's a setup because this "task" is now about leadership. Not who takes in the most money or anything like that. These events have already been organized. So now Kwame & Bill are given some "employees". DT (& MB) throw in some challenges (SNAFUs and difficult employees like Omarosa and Nick) to see how Bill & Kwame handle the Managerial role. It's obvious that the show is manipulated to some degree. Remember that the apartment lease was a setup...
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Crossfire
Member
08-07-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:43 am
If I could be permitted a paragraph of offtopicness: Speaking of Opera, what is going on with daytime tv these days? I accidentally caught a bit of Springer today. Two women got into an argument, and suddenly they were pulling their own clothing off. What the heck? I've never seen anything like that in my life. And the crowd was going nuts.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 12:52 am
The Oprah listed here at 1:06am is a repeat on domestic abuse and homicide, per my cable co.. tomorrow night is Randy Jackson (yo yo yo, wassup dawg?} talking about his gastric bypass..
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:04 am
Crossfire, you are kidding, right! To put it in terms that won't offend you; using Oprah and Springer in the same sentence, let alone suggesting that they have anything in common is like using William F. Buckley and Howard Stern in the same sentence and sugguesing they might have something in common because they both have/had "talk shows." (did I finally win the award for longest run-on sentence?)
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Crossfire
Member
08-07-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:14 am
An unlikely comparison I guess? Can you tell I don't watch either*? Now that you've added Stern into the mix, I think I can draw a comparison that IS valid. What is up with him getting into all sorts of trouble with the FCC while Springer gets away with mid-day stripping catfights? Silly world. * Admittedly I have seen Springer before, years and years ago, but people did not get naked on account of a disagreement. Sheesh. OK, I'll knock off the off-topic now. 
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:33 am
Cross, I have no idea why the double standard. Both are disgusting and indefensible IMHO. I guess censorship is a slippery slope that most of us don't want to go down. Meet me over in news and views, I'd like to have this discussion.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:37 am
Cable guide is wrong.. Donald et al on Oprah right now.. west coast..
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2004 - 1:39 am
Did anyone notice Oma at the desk when Kwame got there, she said words to effect "this isn't US anymore, this is YOU" and pointed her finger at him? She dropped her end of the job early. She did speak to Diane at dinner and said, oh, there is a transportation problem? I'm having dinner, can YOU handle this for me? Ok, well, once more Oma tried to delegate her job to a person she had considered a flunkie. Her responsibilty doing a job for Kwame was beneath her? Oma didn't even mention her transportation side of the event was falling apart when asked at dinner. Talk about lies on national tv, she takes the cake for being a hypersensitive buckpassing slacker and anyone dumb enough to hire her would probably have some lawsuits along one or many lines eventually! If an inch of falling plaster concussed her and she couldn't help with the apartment task a few days later (but could play basketball in street) she is a worker comp risk. She's tested her discrim race card option and fell flat already when her accusations couldn't be found on tape. Next, it would be the sexual discrim card, I'm sure. One look at Oma and how hot she is and that wonderful personality, she sees men in Trump Inc as targets to invite her to couch her way up? She's such a liar, any smart exec would give Oma a wide berth as trouble waiting to happen any number of ways! She does seem like a mole to test Kwame in that respect ~ to disrespect her task for him. Wish he had the power to just say, "You're fired" and be done with her sabotage!
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