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Kmmykat
Member
04-01-2004
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:00 am
Absolutely, positively the last minute rental was staged, just like the apartment challenge. That's how "reality" TV goes. There's no way the producers would take away the "romantic" angle because it translates to ratings; especially with the prize being a "getaway" (even though the family members were there). In addition, you knew it would a Troy vs. Kwame dilemma in the boardroom because they focused on their friendship in the beginning of the show. Editing gives it away. I'll still watch, though. Although I swear I'll mute the TV when Omarosa shows up. Another jacked up Reality TV reality; the most popular and the most hated get ratings, so they'll come back. I hate O even more than Jerri on Survivor...<removed survivor spoiler - el> Just my thoughts.
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Butrflynet
Member
12-29-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:09 am
Bill is starting to play mind games with his competition. He said he felt odd man out because Nick and Amy had their thing going and Troy and Kwame had formed a bonding friendship. In an aside, he said he had to take those relationships into consideration. Looks like he's chosen to subtly implant doubts in his competition. Did anyone else notice that it was Bill who said to Nick that he better make some moves on Amy or people will think he's gay, only to then go to Amy and tell her that Nick was the one who said he needed to make some moves on her so people wouldn't think he's gay? Also, did anyone else wonder about those horoscopes he so helpfully read aloud to Kwame? Bill's horoscope was all positive and encouraging while he "read" Kwame's warning of a friend who would stab him in the back. Makes me wonder if either one of them were the actual horoscopes in the paper or if Bill made them both up to get under Kwame's skin.
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Pirate
Member
06-20-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:14 am
I got my men mixed up. The one said if you could get $40,000 for it, thumbs up, but it isn't worth it. Amy said people were laughing at them about the asking price. I agree with your view Luvmykitties. I think Amy and Kwame will be in the final two. Amy also has an MBA. So I think Donald will be making his decision from those two. I also think that Troy and Kwame discussed the two of them going into the boardroom together. I feel deep down that Troy knew his time was about up. If Bill had come to the boardroom with Troy, Bill would have been all over Troy about his sales tactics. This way he goes out on a good note.
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:14 am
amy has gone wayyyyyyyyyyyy down in my estimations since her 'romance' with nick. <nk>. shadows under his eyes, mouth turned down all the time. i can't tell if he was the class bully or the kid who got stuffed into a locker! i think the end will be between kwame and bill...not sure who will win of the 2, but i'll take either over amy or nick. i almost puked when amy said something to nick's dad about meeting her future father-in-law. and, hello? what would trump know about being in true love? LOLOLOLOL did you see the commercials for the bachelor (which i refuse to watch)...there will now be a mole planted. for what?! i keep thinking omarosa was a mole. she can't possibly really be that snooty of a person. right? please tell me i'm right.
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Jennywa
Member
07-17-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:23 am
I have been watching this show from the beginning and I'm not sure why. Maybe I've been attracted to a world I'll never know, like most of us. However, tonight it hit me how repulsive it all is. The opulent wealth that a few people enjoy and the greed to pursue it just seems so shallow. I guess what really hit me was that a person was willing to pay $40,000 for one night of fun. That's as much as most people in this country make in a year! And then there was Trump's jet and his exclusive country club. I'm just getting sick of him flaunting his wealth. Don't get me wrong- I'm not the least bit jealous. I'm a public school teacher and I have all the material things I need and have a rich life-not in money, but in touching children's lives. I just wish that TRump could put his wealth to better use than chandliers, jet planes and penthouses. I wonder how much he gives to charity.... Is there anyone else out there who feels the same way?
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:45 am
I try not to think about how selling one tapestry would yield enough money to put a new house on my property and pay it off. It seems obscene, but on the other hand if someone didn't collect all of those things, what would become of them? The guy earned his money and he can do what ever he wants with it. I do agree, however, that his "bragging" is wearing very thin. He needs to tone it down a lot.
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Danas15146
Member
03-31-2004
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:15 am
My husband and I looked it up on the web -- he gives very little money to charity. It is his money to do with what he wants - but he could do much better. Bill Gates gives a TON of money to charities.
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Eliz87
Member
07-30-2001
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:27 am
Well, considering that most charities spend 30% of donations on administrative costs, I can't say that I blame him. At least he's not doing it for the tax writeoff like many rich people do. And maybe he helps people in other ways -- perhaps his employees get paid very well, or he's a good tipper. Could be he randomly and anonymously helps families he sees in the news. Those are the kinds of "charitable contributions" that I respect the most.
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Chief1
Member
08-18-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:30 am
Butrflynet, ITA with you about Bill's tactics last night. It seemed staged for his benefit. I don't know if he's feeling the pinch really, for being an outsider, or if he's feeling his own fate (of being fired) and trying to prevent it. If he is trying to prevent his own fate, he might be creating a series of attempts to put wedges in relationships, to draw attention away from himself. If so, that's not a good leadership trait. I like Bill and hope he's in the finals, but that wasn't cool. Pirate, I totally agree with your assessment of Troy and Kwame. I'm thinking, too, that when others go back to the suite (vs. the street), they share what happened in the board room. Because there had been some insinuating by DT that others were sending their "friends" back to the suite, Troy may have wanted to show DT that he was about business first. Besides, although they (Troy and Kwame) were friends, Troy knew that at some point, he and Kwame were going to have to compete against one another. I was proud of him for that! (And his taxi-ride exit speech was VERY commendable.) I saw Kwame just as involved in last night's project as Troy was, so it really was a close call for DT. In both cases, they have been PM's who won/lost with great attitudes, and learning valuable lessons along the way. Bravo for the both of them! I hated to see Troy go (since he was one of my favorites) but felt Kwame has handled himself better throughout the competition. I also noticed that Kwame took credit for being the PM three times, and appeared equally proud of his accomplishments/opportunity. Did anyone else notice when DT pointed out to Kwame that he was "selected" as PM three times, because his teammates wanted him to get fired? What's up with that?
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Harridan2
Member
12-20-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:55 am
I also thought the last minute rental deal was a bit hinky, like a setup to keep Amy/Nick angle for another week. What I couldn't understand is why Troy was considered a loose cannon? He's very dynamic. I just couldn't see how he or his family would be happy living in NYC away from beautiful Idaho.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 8:23 am
Troy was just on the Today show. He is just so darn cute!! I do realize that geography isn't my strongest, but how is he a "good old SOUTHERN boy" if he is from Idaho? Did it get moved down here?????
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:23 am
I was sad to see Troy , while absolutely delightful he could however be a loose cannon.I think that DT pointed out that Kwame had been selected as a PM in an effort to point out that Kwame has been under the radar/not volunteering/on the fringe. Bill was slick trying to play Nick vs Amy, I was shocked at him. And Oma-rosa, oh no,is she still lurking in the alleys and side streets of NYC ? I just want her to go away from this show.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:34 am
Troy said he loans HIS OWN money ...how did he make that money? I wonder if his family was wealthy. I did not understand loose cannon remark either...Sam yes, Troy? no way! Is it me or does anyone else feel Amy doesn't feel the same as Nick does? She always says HE has a crush on her and during the jet thing she didn't look that infatuated with him and he does with her.
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Dat1ua95
Member
11-05-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:47 am
Amy spit fire when Nick's Dad mentioned the other woman on the West Coast. Or it could be editing, she could have just been holding in a belch. I liked Troy, but, let's get real. He brought Kwame to the board room because he knew there was no way he could beat Bill. At least with Kwame he knew he a had a 50/50 chance. I do think they were very truthful with each other, especially in the board room. None of that backstabbing Katrina/Ereka stuff.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 10:20 am
That's cuz they are men! only us women do the evil 2 faced backstabbing!
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:05 am
Pamy, you asked if Troy was from a wealthy family. On one talk show I heard them mention that he did not go to college because he HAD to go to work to support his Mom. As soon as they said that, Troy then said yes and can I say hi to my little sister and used sign language to talk to her. I did not get the impression at all that he came from money.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:07 am
I think Kwame has been pre-chosen to win this. It seems in Donald's view, he can do no wrong. However, in my opinion, his face is bland, his personality is bland, his leadership choices (remember Fulton Fish Market?) are really bad. Am I missing something?
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:17 am
what's this about Omarosa?? I didn't see the previews. What did they show???
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:34 am
I think that MB is yanking our chains by promoting Omarosa coming back. I bet that every former contestant is coming back to give their input in the Board Room about the final 2 candidates ala Survivor jury. MB knows that having us get all worked up about O will increase ratings far more than just saying all contestants are coming back. I think we have an Amy/Bill final 2.
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Dat1ua95
Member
11-05-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:14 pm
If two players are cut next week, wouldn't that lead you to believe that the entire losing team is banished? At least that is what I think. It would be wrong to kick off a player from the winning team.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:17 pm
I think Kwame will be in final two, so I am guessing under that scenario we have a Bill and Kwame final two with a very interesting boardroom of Amy and Nick. Watch Amy's claws come out. The women, unfortunately, do not handle themselves well in the boardroom and neither does Nick.
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Realfan
Member
08-08-2001
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 1:36 pm
<<That's cuz they are men! only us women do the evil 2 faced backstabbing!>> No kidding. I'm a woman, but I have to say I cannot imagine two women being able to separate friendship and business like those two men did. They would have gotten their feelings hurt if their friend took them to the boardroom. That's what I found most interesting about this episode. I liked Troy best. Loose cannon? First they want people to think outside the box, then they slam them for being loose cannons and not following the company line/style?! Mixed messages! Now that Troy's gone, I don't really care who wins. Hate Nick and Amy. Kwame's OK. Bill's boring. MB's going to ruin people's impression of Survivor as an honest game with these hijinx on his other shows. First the utterly staged and fake "The Restaurant," now two sudden last-minute deals on "The Apprentice." I smell a rat, and it's growing into a huge stinkin' warf rat of gargantuan proportions!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 1:44 pm
Thanks Jan, what a great guy he is! I agree Beach, that we will see comments from all previous players..why is it only 1 hr next week and 2 are fired??? Only 2 eps left!
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 2:42 pm
I wonder if they will discard the team concept and have each of the four work alone? Then the two who produce the least could go to the boardroom..
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Friday, April 02, 2004 - 2:58 pm
Sea, ITA about individual challenges. At this point in the game, you don't want to be saddled with someone who screws up and forces you into the boardroom. It would be a truer picture of an individual's abilities to see how they handled a challenge on their own. Is this the golf course challenge coming up?
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