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Bastable
| Saturday, October 04, 2003 - 3:49 pm
LOL Hootyhoot... I dunno... got any good ideas to pitch them? 
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Hootyhoot
| Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 11:36 am
Hi Bastable ... Hmmmm, where would we like to go? Here's a topic for an article I'd read ... so maybe I should write it: Which tropical resorts are suitable for not-rich active older people? I haven't yet taken an all-inclusive vacation but they all seem to focus their ads towards young singles. Perhaps I should start a new subject here at tvch ...
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Cliotheleo
| Sunday, October 05, 2003 - 11:38 pm
Lovedana, what I meant by my comment was that I thought it was absurd for them to inform us that the roommates were unharmed while we have folks fighting and dying in Iraq. It's not like Paris was the middle of the war zone or anything. What were we supposed to do, go "Oh, I'm so glad they were able to go out shopping and bar hopping without anyone harassing them! What a relief!"
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Seanflynn2003
| Monday, October 06, 2003 - 11:24 am
It's not like the show was being broadcast live in France, thereby making them logical targets for French disdain. They are lucky it wasn't.
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Bastable
| Monday, October 06, 2003 - 1:07 pm
Well, the Chicago cast was mocked and chased. People even threw balloons full of paint at the front door of the house. They didn't want the show in their neighborhood. For all the talk about the French being nasty, they sure were nice to the Real World kids--nicer than Americans were in our own country! I don't the Real World is broadcast in France on any meaningful channel. They probably thought it was a student film or something.
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Watching2
| Monday, October 06, 2003 - 2:47 pm
Wow! I totally forgot this show was on. Actually, I'm surprised it's STILL ON. LOL I thought it probably would have been over while we were all bent out of shape about the BB4 cast. I think I've taken to watching Queer Eye in it's time slot.
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Bastable
| Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 7:40 pm
Oh, man, send CT back to Boston tout de suite.
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Tishala
| Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 8:56 pm
What happened Bastable? It hasnt aired here yet and I'm thinking I will be mourning democracy in California.
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Grooch
| Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 9:24 pm
He was a total nutcase tonight and I am speechless. It is well worth watching and just when it seems he is the nice CT again, it looks like next week more of the same.
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Cliotheleo
| Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 9:26 pm
Something has been bothering me since the last season. It seems like every episode, no matter what drama develops between the roommates, they always managed to "make-up" by the end of the show. All the episodes have this nice, warm-fuzzy ending. I feel like I'm watching the Brady Bunch. Anyone else notice that?
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Tishala
| Tuesday, October 07, 2003 - 11:24 pm
OMG. I really have turned against the evil CT machine. I thought before that the girls were just behaving badly toward him, but now I see the truth: he and Leah should get married so their genes are contained and nobody has to contend with their boorish behavior.
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Azlen
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 12:14 am
It's all in the editing Clio, but also I think the fact that cameras are there adds to the pressure of staging a "make-up" scene. I am a bit surprised that there was no discussion of having CT removed from the house. I thought physically attacking a cast mate was grounds for at least a discussion on them being removed. Also the whole thing about Adam not having is back was a complete joke. I was very impressed with the way Adam handled himself in the situation.
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Max
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 7:33 am
CT appears to have a drinking problem. When he's sober, he can be moody, but he's actually a pretty nice guy. When he gets alcohol in him, it's a Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde situation. All his anger (caused by who knows what, but it's definitely there) comes to the surface and takes control. He appears to be, quite literally, a different person. From what we've been shown, it seems to me that CT could really use some counseling or life coaching or whatever you want to call it. He's got issues that he hasn't dealt with. Any time he feels the least bit insecure or disrespected, he turns to anger as a defense mechanism. When he's got alcohol on board, that comes out in physical form and it's not good. It's self-destructive and will cause him all kinds of problems if he doesn't deal with it. I wonder if his girlfriend has seen that side of him and, if so, why the heck she stays around. I'd be afraid that his anger would one day be directed at me.
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Danzdol
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 8:14 am
My hubby was watching and he was wondering whyhe wasn't arrested. (He did not know it ws in France). He said attacking someone from behind could get you arrested AND then he wondered why they did not consider throwing him out of the house. I agree, I think CT is a nice guy but the drinking makes him act like a jerk. Some people cannot handle alcohol. I was wondering what his GF was thinking last night when the episode aired and she saw him acting that way.
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Cliotheleo
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 8:57 am
Max if his girlfriend hadn't seen that side of him before she went to Paris (and I would imaigine she had) judging by next weeks episode, she soon found out all about it. CT may have not been kicked out of the house because the other roommates didn't ask for him to be. I remember on the last season of Road Rules when .............. what's his name ........... shoved ............. that other guy, the cast members made a big deal about kicking him off because "they didn't feel safe" (insert big eye roll here.) Here's a thought, do you think the guys told the girls what happened that night? Being standard issue reality show chics, I can't imagine the girls not wigging out when they found out that CT had "attacked" Adam.
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Sweetbabygirl
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:06 am
I found it weird that the Frenchman accepted the pummeling that CT gave him....now, while said Frenchman DID push first, he did not deserve what happened next. "I....WILL....WORK....YOU!" - Eesh!!
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Azlen
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 10:33 am
I don't necessarily think that CT is such a nice guy, but a jerk who occasionally does nice things. The people who are living with him don't seem to hold him in high regard and I would have the tendency to trust the judgment of someone who is around him all the time vs the edited material that we see.
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Bastable
| Wednesday, October 08, 2003 - 12:23 pm
I don't think that guy CT pummelled was French. He sounded English to me when he spoke--like a laddish, pubbish English.
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Penpoint
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 12:09 am
Well, in my opinion, CT's actions were definitely worse than Abram's on Road Rules. The difference: Abram's altercation was with Donnell, a huge drama queen who egged Abram on and then made a huge show of having been "attacked" even though he himself was the insitgator. Adam, on the other hand, was really an innocent bystander of sorts, he kept his cool and didn't make a huge issue of it. So CT got a pass--but the boy has problems!
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Hootyhoot
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 6:37 am
Azlen, that's my take on CT exactly ... a jerk who does something nice occasionally! I am appalled at the thought that we sent this guy to Europe and we showcase him on TV for the world to see ... and there seems to be no payback at all for his behavior. What are the producers thinking?
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Tishala
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 9:48 am
Penpoint, I think the producers and the cast might think there is a difference between shoving/pushing someone [i.e., CT] and actually running acros the room, punching him and tearing his clothing [i.e., Abram].
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Arm22
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 4:15 pm
Tishala, there really should be no difference. A physical altercation is just that. Did anyone catch when CT said that he was the soft one back home. That led me to believe that he either got bullied or picked on a lot which could lead to his anger problem. I also agree he should get some kind of punishment for what he did to Adam.
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Tishala
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 4:49 pm
Oh I don't think I disagree Arm--I think CT should probably leave too. But I don't think the difference is that Donnell is a drama queen (with all its homophobic connotations), but that the producers see it as a question of degree. CT was certainly threatening Adam quite a lot.
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Puttergirl
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 5:26 pm
Tishala, you also have to consider that Donnel immediately was asking for Abe to get kicked out, while in this case it doesn't appear that anyone asked for it. I don't think the producers would have done a thing in Abe's case if nobody had asked.
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Azlen
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 5:57 pm
We don't really know what was discussed about whether to keep CT on the show. They may have decided to just not show us that discussion.
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