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Legalboxer

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
there was another article blasting the show as well... maybe critics didnt like that they never got to see the end of the show until last night and they were just being babies :)

Rosie

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just read all of your posts and I too am excited about this new program. Really enjoyed the whole show.

DT's place that we saw: Could just be a place that he uses for show. We did not get to see the entire apartment.

Loved his girlfriend's comment about "isn't he lucky too?" Purrfect.

Dave did shoot himself in the foot.

Erika does have to stop with the crying.

Sam is a bit scary if you ask me.

Can't wait to follow this interesting program. It is finally something new in the reality theatre.



Maris

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That is his real place in fact Ivana is the one that decorated it. You can see the gaudy aspect of european influence in it. You should see the place in Florida.

I was working in a mansion a few weeks ago on a project. The couple lived in it. Let me tell you it was the gaudiest thing I ever saw right down to the little cupids on the walls. They had matching remingtons in the windows, matching Klimts on either side of the fireplace which took away from the pieces since it was obvious they owned the pieces as decorations and not because they appreciated the art. They had no taste but lots of money to spend on it. The ceilings were painted in a way that made versailles look minimalist. Just because you have billions doesnt mean you have any taste.

Did anyone else hear the bit about selling her phone number with the lemonade? Did I imagine it? She sold the lemonade to a guy in a reddish shirt. Can someone check their tape?

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
she did say she was giving him her phone number and she did hand him a scrap of paper...

Csnog

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes she gave him a phone number but we don't know if it was her actual number. MB loves to tell a story from the first episode and he puts clues into his shows. Remember he gives a lot of face time to people who are being booted and likes to hide his winner.

Some winners are very much in your face all the time like Sandra from Survivor but if MB can, he will hide his winner.

Max

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, heck. I guess that reviewer wanted a show that just trashed The Donald. That's not what I wanted, thus I'm not disappointed.

I think, however, that this reviewer fails to realize that viewers can see the arrogance of The Donald along with his bad taste on their own. We really don't need to have it pointed out for us complete with subtitles and a laugh track.

Of COURSE he's arrogant. That can be seen in his entire attitude. Some would say he has a right to be. Whatever. Of COURSE he's got a bad comb-over. I'd add that his colorist doesn't do all that convincing of a job, either. So? Of COURSE he's got more money than taste and flaunts it as though he has no confidence that people will respect him otherwise. One look at that limo, that office, that boardroom, that APARTMENT and you can see that. Why would we need the show to point it out to us? It's practically SCREAMING at us at every turn!

What I want to see in this show is what I AM seeing. A bunch of young, entrepreneurial types trying to impress The Donald with their business acumen. A group of go-getters who have all been successful on their own, in their own niches, try to come together as a team while still attempting to impress as individuals. That, IMHO, is precisely what the show is delivering. Of course, along the way, we'll get a lot of petty arguments, crazy situations, and some eye candy. Is that really so bad?

I think the critic had a much different show in mind than I did. :)

Tabbyking

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i was kinda suprised on DT's math skills. didn't he say the guys 'doubled' their money,(from the 250 to 500) and the girls 'quadrupled' theirs by earning 1,250? wouldn't they have quintupled their money?

Luvmyjrt

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris, I recall that part as well. My guess is he got the following number: 1/800-You-Fool!

Also, I did remark to DH that if this is the way bankruptcy works, what a deal! That part did kind of P me off.......DH said his bankruptcy and the regular americans bankruptcy are worlds apart, no doubt!

On a high note, DH usually detests reality tv (I know, I know!) but he enjoyed this show a lot. But then again, he really likes to watch Starting Over with me too! (Don't tell, he'll kill me!!!)

Realfan

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Grand Central is a great choice. I was thinking of the huge line in Times Square at the Tix booth. Those people are bored, thirsty, and waiting waiting waiting in a long line. And every tourist goes to Times Square, so it'd be full of non-NYC people who I think are more willing to buy street lemonade instead of hurrying home or to work. When the guys were heading for Seaport Village, they didn't go to the actual shopping mall area, which was dumb. Another place I thought of was the ferry terminal for Statten Island--tons of people waiting, waiting, waiting...

I also thought the men could have gone to Central Park and put on a performance show to sell their product. They were all in suits--can you imagine them doing a can-can dance and singing? They'd draw a crowd for sure!

Sam bugged me because he seemed so smarmy. Driven is good, and I admire his creativity. It's great if he can sell a cup for $1,000, but NOT good if he promises something he can't deliver. That's con-man territory.

David did seem too passive. Too into academics. I'm not surprised Trump let him go first.

Tammy and her lipstick were ridiculous. She said she didn't even want to smile at the others in the beginning? What a cold one.

Happymom

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Trump is on Regis and Kelly right now. He said he's having a bad hair day today. (and mentioned something about Kelly making fun of his hair/giving him a hard time about his hair over the years) He said the cat fights between the women on the next (? or maybe later) episode(s) are crazy. He said all of the people have IQs close to 200. He said some really deserved to be fired and some really didn't. He said the guys last night chose the wrong location, he would've gone to Times Square. A lot of them remind him of himself years ago. What they really need is drive more than anything else. He said MB told him it would take 3 hr. per week and actually took 30 hr per week. (He may have been joking, hard to tell with DT. He is being very serious on this show even tho Regis especially is joking around.) Sam is a wild man. David probably had the highest IQ of the bunch.

Realfan

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ooo, me and the Trump think alike! In terms of Times Square, that is. See, I could be a Trumpette, too. Or a clarinet, more like... (Hey, I haven't had my morning Jo yet...)

I was fascinated when Donald jumped on Jason about that "Let me finish" comment--because he'd just done the same thing, interrupt, Donald Trump! I was shocked he interrupted his potential employer during what they're calling a job interview, then so glad Trump called him on it.

I don't think the women sold ALL their cups of lemonade for $5--only a few to the soft touches. They just moved the merchandise faster, and the traffic at Rockefeller Center may have had a lot to do with that.

I enjoyed the show. It is survivor like--much moreso than that crappy show The Restaurant!

Sweetbabygirl

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Damn you, Trump!! This show is my new addiction, lol!!

Okay, here we go....

Sam - Napoleon complex fo sho, plus he is too emotional. He sold Troy down the river while making excuses and pointing fingers. Chutzpah is one thing but arrogance is another....he won't last, bet on it.

Troy - I think he did a great job, although the location area is where he failed. I kept hearing "Thank God I'm A Country Boy" each time he spoke.

David - I liked him, although saying how he wasn't much of a salesman did hurt his chances. His running down the lemonade customers was very comical.

Kwame - He should have gotten to view Trump's apt. for his creativity.

Jason - While I'm suprised Trump didn't eject him right then and there with "Let me finish", you've gotta admire his guts....I hate to be asked a question then interrupted when I attempt to answer it.

Now on to the ladies....

Tammy - Princess, you're not gonna last....I believe she owns a company and I hope that is true, because I don't understand how she could be part of a company with her piss-poor interpersonal skills. Her initial attitude as she sized everyone up was disgusting, and her tacky comments in Trump's apartment only showed her lack of class.

I didn't know Grace Jones grew hair and wanted to become an apprentice....lol, seriously I don't know her name but I think she's quite striking; I love the fact that she rose from the projects to become where she is now.

Ereka - Can the tears lady, or you'll be in a cab faster than David....think tough, and you'll be okay.

I don't like the fact that the girls won the assignment, as they used themselves to win. Yeah yeah, sex sells but damn, why not try using your INTELLECT sometimes? And the one that gave her number to the guy, real nice. But let any of the guys have done that, and see how heated things would have gotten.

Finally, we come to Trump....(scratches head)....um, this guy is a billionaire, right? That said, what is with the dead cat on his head? And that apartment, PEE-YEW!! Totally gaudy. Why do rich people buy stuff like that, ick!

All in all, what an enjoyable show.

Immunity_Man

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I said I wasn't going to watch this show, but when I saw that it was the brain-child of MB. I changed my mind, broke down and watched it. I didn't want to become a reality TV show junkie, except for Survivor (smile).

I was impressed. It was well put together and brought alot of these over achievers down to earth when they had to go out and sell lemonade.

Personally, I thought the guys did a better job in the planning, presentation, and quality of their business, but the ladies had a great sex appeal and a much better location than the guys.

I'd much rather buy lemonade from the girls (who are all good-looking) than 8 guys in business suits. That just looks "fishy" (no pun intended Kwame).

I don't think the challenge was necessarily fair. The woman are just all so hot. The guys were outmatched when it came to grabbing people off the street. But if they are future execs for Trump Enterprises they should've figured out a better way to get around their handicaps.

I was only impresssed with 2 individuals as far as who I think is best for the job: Omarosa seems to have alot going for her. She's one together lady with a great background, organizational skills, communication skills, and an eye for detail. She has my vote to win so far.

For the guys I like Nick, the copier salesman. He had a machiavellian approach last night. He had great overview and insight, but didn't overshadow the project leader, but remained part of the team. I believe when he's PM, he'll do a bang up job!

I like this program! Something very different and original in RTV

Maris

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Kwame picked the location. I do like Troy myself and I can see him winning this thing. So far none of the women stand out yet for me.

Pamy

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maris..I heard that about the phone # and saw her give the guy a piece of paper. DOn't know if she gave her real #.

What is kind of cool about this show is that the players don't decide who goes. I am sure if they did Tammy will be first to go but Donald might like her.

It is kind of like The Family, where someone picks who goes before the board but then the decision is out of their hands

Hobbs

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is it going to be the team leader each week that picks the two to go up against him as the final three in the board room? Once they all figure this out they'll be all over the leader so that they don't get put in that position. That will be fun.

This is a show about DT, produced by DT, narrated by DT. It is an ego boost. He has to make sure it's a hit. If it flops then he'll never hear the end of it. So he and MB are going to have to keep the "interesting" characters around so that people will watch it. So for all of you who think Sam and Tammy will be out quick, don't count on it. This is a show where the producers (not the contestants) get to pick who stays.

Rslover

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Laura,
It was supposed to be 90 mins but it actually started at 8:38 and ended at 9:52.

Pamy

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved the questions Donald asked them...really sets them up to piss others off! LOL
Love this show!

Kady

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone hear the meaning behind the company name the guys came up with Versacorp? I must have missed it.

Hermione69

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but I find it very hard to believe that these people all have IQs close to 200 (per Trump on Regis and Kelly). I don't think Trump knows what he is talking about, or is prone to high exaggeration.

This is an interesting web site about IQs.

IQs

Even Albert Einstein, by many experts, is believed to have had an approximate adult IQ in the 160s. And many argue that Marilyn vos Savant, who claims an IQ of 228 in the Guinness Book of Records, is more likely in the 185 range as an adult. There is often a big difference between an individual's score as a child and as an adult. Anyway, just wanted to comment on that.

I tried to watch, but my attention kept wandering. I ended up going to bed to read before the board room meeting and the "firing." I may give it another whirl Saturday for the repeat and see if it snags my interest more. Seems like a lot of people are into it.

Sillycalimomma

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched Regis and Kelly also this morning. Isn't he always having a bad hair day?IMHO that mas "hair" is horrible. I really enjoyed this show, but unfortunately missed a lot of it because I had to put my little one to bed. I did catch the end though and boy that Sam might as well just shoot himself in his own foot! If that guy has an IQ close to 200 it doesn't show....He has me on pins and needles waiting for the next episode though. I just knew these women would be fighting like mad within a day or so!

Wilsonatmd

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well...it seems like we can't get thru a reality show without a contestant having a skeleton in their closet....This blog claims that Kristi was an actress at one point....as in "Red Shoe Diaries" (for those who don't know, this was a "drama" series that aired on Showtime in the 90's, little plot, lots of nudity)....Don't worry if you click on the link, it's work safe (theres a link within that link that isn't, but it's clearly marked)

Spygirl

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just want to reiterate - IQ measures intellect and is in no way a measure of interpersonal skills - or interpersonal/intrapersonal intelligence. There is a major difference. It is similar to the old idea that you have 'book smarts', but lack 'street smarts'.

Politicians, salespeople, religious leaders, etc., all typically excel in interpersonal intelligence, but may or may not have high IQ scores. That is why I found this show to be so interesting. This is exactly what I am in the process of teaching (the class that started last night), and I plan to use Sam as a case example of the difference between emotional intelligence and intellectual/aptitude intelligence.

I am going to go out on a limb and say that the person who wins this competition will most likely not be the most intelligent according to IQ or other academic measures. My theory is already working since the person with the highest IQ was fired first.

Mocha

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I love Red Shoe Diaries.

Realfan

Friday, January 09, 2004 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kady, I think VersaCorp was based off of versatile. I actually like the name better than Protege, but I'm in the minority. It sounds more business-like to me. Protege is just a word, but VersaCorp is a made up name, which is why I like it.