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Bastable
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 7:35 pm
That's right, Azlen. I get the sense that Adam didn't feel threatened by the shoving, that he understood CT's problem as a person. It's when the other roommates feel threatened, then we have a problem and people get booted.
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Tishala
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 7:53 pm
I WAS amazed that CT made it clear that he was more than willing to get sent home for his behavior. It seemed like he knew the potential consequences to his boorish behavior, just as whatshisname on RR did. CT, though, has tenuously managed to restrain himself from taking that extra step, while his counterpart lacked that self-control.
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Arm22
| Thursday, October 09, 2003 - 8:19 pm
I think a lot of restraint was shown by Adam also. I was surprised at how CT just threw those punches at a defenseless guy instead of walking away. I'm a little dissapointed in Ace for not standing up for Adam more. He should have told CT how wrong he was.
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Grooch
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 8:10 am
Tishala, next week we get to see the continuation of CT's horrible behavior. I don't know what the timespan is between the 2 episodes (a day, a week, etc) but maybe by the end of this show he will be thrown off. Plus who knows what they cut out. Last week on Soroity Girls, they all hated Michelle and this week they are all best friends with her. WTF went on to make that happen? They didn't show any of that to us! But anyway, what I don't understand is why they give the HG's a choice now. They never gave Glydis a chance when she attacked Abe in the Mexico RR. It was "No way, no how" even after Abe talked to MTV's lawyers begging her to stay. I just don't get it.
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Grooch
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 8:12 am
Arm, I think the most constraint was the guy with his hands behind his back taking the punches. That was sick what CT was doing! And he could have very easily gotten himself and his roomates killed. I was surprised that the group the guy was with were so forgiving and accepted Adam's apologies.
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Laura11103
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 2:31 pm
Azlen I agree with you saying that CT is a jerk who occasionally does nice things. He's so freakin unreasonable it's frustrating beyond belief for me just to watch it. Seeing Adam try to talk it out and CT immediately starts screaming. I tried to like him but find him to be a reprehensible PITA who is to insecure to accept that he may be wrong once in awhile. I like Adam a lot and give him credit for finally making a truce with CT, obviously they'll never be best friends but at least they could try to get along.
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Tishala
| Friday, October 10, 2003 - 5:20 pm
ITA Grooch...who other than a sadist hits someone REPEATEDLY when he has his hands behind his back? It's really contemptable behavior....worse than spitting on someone.
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Penpoint
| Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 9:40 am
In earlier editions of Real World, there may have been some jerks, but it seemed (if the intervening time hasn't clouded my memory) that most of the cast members were pretty much okay. Of course, each had his or her own foibles, but they were for the most part likable. Perhaps its the editing, but to me there's no one to like in the Paris edition (and from what I saw of the Las Vegas RW--that group lost my interest very quickly). CT is a probable alchoholic who teeters on the edge of socialization. Adam has finally shown some sense in his dealing with CT, but till now he's been shown only as an insecure girl-chasing jerk. Ace tries to make everyone like him, but shows no backbone. And Simon? Who's Simon? He must be so dull that the editors can't build a story line around him; on most shows he's just in the background. Then there are the women--as far as personality characteristics are concerned, I can barely tell them apart.
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Arm22
| Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 11:34 am
Grooch, I agree. I kept thinking he wanted CT to hit him so he could sue or something.
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Puttergirl
| Saturday, October 11, 2003 - 12:39 pm
Plus the whole thing was being filmed. Everyone acts differently when they have a television crew filming their actions! The other guys might have kicked the shi+ out of CT if the camera wasn't on.
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Lauram
| Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:59 pm
Gee CT why would you have your girlfriend and your best drinkin' bud visit you at the same time?? Doesn't seem too smart to me.
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Lauram
| Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:35 am
Well I guess that everybody has quit watching this show!!
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Gina8642
| Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:12 pm
I'm still TiVo-ing it. But I fast forward through a lot. How many times will CT mess up, get yelled at, then say he will 'kill them with kindness'. I donno, but it seems like the Las Vegas season and this season are edited really, really sloppy. The story lines are like broken records. Everything just repeats over, and over, and over, and over.... These folks seem dumb. I swore Leah said the italian guy had a girlfiend the last episode he was in - so now she's thrilled to be second hand trash on a national TV show. Did I miss something? Then we see CT getter trashed AT WORK??!!??!! Ummm, to me this is worse then getting in petty arguments with a girlfriend. The don't seem to want to cast interesting people anymore, just ones who are willing to (on camera) (a) have sex and (b) drink until they can't see straight. My attitude at this point about the Real World is - whatever... BTW - Why didn't they cast more Europeans for a European version of the show??!!??? They have sheltered little Irish boy, and that's it. Who found it ironic that an Irish kid (home of the IRA, etc.) couldn't relate to terriorism as well as a spoiled rich kid from New York City area??!!?? Scary!
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Tishala
| Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:21 pm
Gina, many northern Irelanders had/have a great deal of respect fot eh IRA members and their efforts to end colonial oppression at the hands of the British governement. [I can also believe that his memory is as short as most Americans: the IRA's heyday was the 70s, after all, before Simon was born.] Besides, when Leah was intent on silencing his dissent about the Iraq war--Bastable has already pointed this out--she was telling lies. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 11 September, as even the President has admitted, so for them to shout him down on the grounds that he didn't understand the effects of allowing a terrorist to continue were absolutely false.
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Gina8642
| Monday, October 27, 2003 - 5:24 pm
Tishala - I'm not talking about respect. I'm not giving history lessons - although apparently you are. All I'm saying it is ironic that an irish kid has had more peace in his life than a spoiled american kid. That is ironic. The world has changed quite a bit in the last few years. If you want to be deliberatly obtuse - please feel free. BTW - Leah may be confused about the culpability of Sadam, but that doesn't mitigate the fact that she went to multiple funerals after 9-11. (c)
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Bastable
| Monday, October 27, 2003 - 9:04 pm
But Simon isn't from Northern Ireland, so I don't see what the discussion is about. He's from Dublin. Peaceful, booming Dublin. Which is Ireland, not Northern Ireland, and not part of the Crown, and not where the Troubles are. The IRA hasn't had an effective operation there since the days of Michael Collins, which were just after World War I. (Not to say that even if he was from Belfast, it would negate his legitimate views on Iraq. They appear more fact-based and less emotionally based than Leah's views of why we're in Iraq. No matter how many funerals she has attended--and I have attended some myself--it still doesn't mean 9/11 had anything to do with Saddam.)
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Bastable
| Tuesday, November 04, 2003 - 7:55 pm
Ugh--Leah is just the type to fall for one of those cheesy Italian guys who target naive American girls on vacation... ugh
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Lauram
| Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 2:14 pm
I can't believe that next week in the last episode. They have so many loose ends and disjointed story lines. Whatever happened to Guiseppe? Or Leahs cancer scare? Or Adams parents? I don't kno, but there doesn't seem to be any start ot finish to story lines...
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Seamonkey
| Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 4:24 pm
I can't bring myself to care.. storylines.. this year's HG.. such a great opportunity seems mostly wasted on this bunch...
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Tishala
| Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 9:28 pm
It's a shame. The narrative arcs were terrible this year and they could have been so good. I still don't know a THING about SImon; I wish I knew less about Leah and CT; Christina seems to vapid she isn't worth thinking about; Adam?....They all mean nothing to me. And they STILL can't speak French! Who ever thought a season in Paris would make the Las Vegas trampiness look good?
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Grooch
| Wednesday, November 19, 2003 - 10:13 pm
Amen, Tishala! Btw, last week, Leah was hysterical about her cancer scare. But this week, it was like she never received a letter from her doctor in the first place. What happened with it? p.s. who is Simon? ;)
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Guinevere
| Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 2:53 pm
I still think Paris was way better than Las Vegas, but agree that ultimately it was disappointing. It started off really promising for me and then just sort of fizzled. BMP seems to get worse and worse each year with their editing - some people get way too much attention, others not enough, and storylines are repeated (CT's obnoxiousness, Adam's relationship drama) until I'm ready to scream. Not quite as bad as last year, when I got soooo sick of Steven-Trishelle and Alton-Irulan, but bad enough. The only one I've liked consistently is Christina. Yeah, she's a ditz and a bit of a drama queen, but she seems like a sweet girl and a bit more level headed than some of the others (well, most of the others, really).
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Mamie316
| Thursday, November 20, 2003 - 8:42 pm
I thought there was just too much promiscuity in Las Vegas. It got to be ridiculous. Paris has been rather boring but I was glad that everyone wasn't sleeping with everyone. I used to laugh at Trishelle, she was so ashamed to have her daddy see her in her waitress outfit but yet, she could be all over Steven all the time! I too like Christina. She does seem to figure these people out and has some kind of head on her shoulders.
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Laura11103
| Friday, November 21, 2003 - 3:30 pm
It was so obvious this season that there was no order to these episodes. Like Tuesday's show revisited Ace's relationship, that was weeks ago when Kate? came to town. So as far as Leah's cancer scare, chances are Tuesday's scenes happened before Leah got that news. Yes this show was pretty bad this season, can't really remember the last good season of RW. I think I might've actually liked Vegas better than this one.
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Mamie316
| Friday, November 21, 2003 - 8:51 pm
I think my favorite season was Hawaii.
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