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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:06 pm
Oh, I hope I haven't spoiled it for anyone--so sorry for posting too early! For those who want to know, here's a spoiler: There were three red hats this week, Mike, Vivica and Tony. The voters, Flor, Matt and Naomi were really stressed out, nobody wanted to vote off Tony, esp. after his emotional final speech. They debated wanting to keep Tony because he "needed" it so bad or letting him go because he was the stiffest competition in the finals. Final vote was Flor to keep Tony and Naomi and Matt to let Tony go. He took it really well, said that this was his time to help someone else reach their dream, but that his time would come, too. He was REALLY excited about the $10,000 check, but it did confuse me when he said it would go into savings. I think if I were homeless with $10,000 in the bank they would kick me out of the shelter (too many years of social work under my belt--leave the shelter for those who REALLY need it now.)
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:14 pm
Yes Cathie--$10,000.00 is a nice nest egg & I wish Tony the best. Tony seems like a very nice albeit rather naive person, and a loving dad & husband, which is important. He hasn't been my particular favorite since he voted John out and sited religion as the reason. Also, I just have to wonder why, if he is so devout, he would have joined Jim & Flor's group. It seems obvious that the entire camp knew about Jim's wife and J & F's sleeping arrangements. Now that Rochelle is gone, I'm liking Naomi. I'm even kind of liking Mike--what you see is what you get with him--and he has shown himself to be a good friend to Naomi. Whether he would be ready for home ownership is another question. It worries me that this week Flor is becoming "nicer" as edited. My opinion--anyone but Flor! I hope Wilson is right in the final analysis! Did anyone else think that Flor's phone call was made to someone who was not her first choice, but rules or producers changed that?
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:23 pm
Hi Cathie--we posted close to the same time--so I just saw yours. I also was surprised when Tony said he was going to put the money away. Also hope I didn't spoil anything for anyone--it's hard with this show because it shows twice in one night (here) and then later in the week.
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:26 pm
I thought it was hilarious that Flor's nephew apparently had better things to do and hung up on her, lol. Tony has been on my hit list (behind Jim & Flor) since he said God told him to vote John (the only other devout Christian) out of the game. I would love to see Naomi win, and would really be okay with any of them except Flor winning.
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:31 pm
LOL, Dynair, we seem to be cross-posting. Anyone think that after this experience maybe Tony is able to go back to work? He was successful in some pretty strenuous work here, his only injury from a volleyball game, so perhaps he can give the job market another try.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:32 pm
Oh no guys, I am thrilled that you "spoiled". It started on at 9 but now they are showing it at 11 and I do stay up and watch it but I have absolutely no will power! I did feel sorry for Tony at first but after he voted off John, forget it. You would think with $10,000, Tony may not be able to get a house but he could rent someplace nice and get out of the shelter.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:33 pm
And I am hoping that Tony does really want to go to work but I am having my doubts about him.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:40 pm
Thanks Mamie--enjoy the show--it's a good one--many more nuances than we talked about here. LOL also Cathie at Flor's nephew! I thought Flor anticipated talking to Jim when she heard about the calls.
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Monday, March 08, 2004 - 11:47 pm
Yep--wouldn't it have been interesting if his wife answered? 
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 12:12 am
Thanks, everyone, for the spoiling ~ I missed it and only turned it on as Tony was saying his last five words or so. I don't know why but something about Tony's story just didn't ring true for me. I hope he puts the $10,000 to good use.
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Purplecow
Member
12-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 9:29 am
quote:I don't know why but something about Tony's story just didn't ring true for me.
I've felt the same way since the first day. First of all it's pretty difficult to be an unemployed landscaper. Knock on enough doors and someone's going to pay you to do some yard work and if you do a good job word gets around until before you know it you've got more work than you can handle. Second, Tony keeps talking about his babies, showing pictures of his babies, but he never says anything about his wife except as an afterthought. I think his babies probably live with their mother to whom Tony is not married or from whom he's been divorced. Anyway, no one was going to be able to win in the final 2 if they had to go up against Tony so I'll bet everyone was relieved when he was voted out, even Flor (especially Flor?).
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:38 am
Tony reminds me a lot of someone I used to do daycare for. He and his wife had 4 kids. Half the time , it was his back, and he was a big guy, and he would work off and on. His wife worked and went to school. Half the time, there wasn't that much food in the house and they were dodging creditors on the phone. He was just lazy and I'm not saying Tony is but he just sounds so much like this other guy. And he would always talk about how much he loved his kids and would do anything for his kids but he was constantly unhappy with jobs and quitting. His wife finally got smart and divorced him and moved away with the kids. Like I said, I'm not saying Tony is like that but I watch him and think I've heard this all before.
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Dat1ua95
Member
11-05-2003
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:46 am
Funny, I get a totally different take on Tony. I tend to take a person at their word until proved otherwise. As for Tony not mentioning his wife, remember the show is edited for drama. If the producers wanted Tony to appear as the doting, loving Father, that is what we get. I'll hold out for Tony and wish him the best.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:57 am
in case you didn't hear, there's 2 eps next week, Monday and Tuesday (both at 11), and then the finale is the week after that.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:15 pm
Thank you Wilson! I didn't know that. Another thing I noticed last night was Flor's defense of picking Tony. It was clear to me that her only agenda was holding on to someone in her camp, and when she lost him she went into a spiel about Matt being so insensitive as to vote Tony off. Did anyone else doubt for one second that she would hold onto Tony only as long as she needed him, then toss him off herself? Naomi, on the other hand, really was troubled about Tony and his situation. That's one reason I really like her now. Mike recognized her concern and seemed to respect what she chose, though clearly working to not be voted out. Matt was entirely honest about his own voting strategy, as was Viveca. Every time I write a post and recheck it, I've written Flo instead of Flor--simple error or a scary shadow coming back from "The Amazing Race"?
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 12:18 am
Wilson, thanks for the head's up about next week!
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Cathie
Member
08-16-2000
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 2:02 am
Thanks, Wilson! Dynair, I have had to go back and edit Flo to Flor several times--glad to know it's not just me!
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 1:30 pm
flor reminds me of coral on the real world and all the other rr/rw challenge shows she has been on. she snapped up that phone cared. lol i'm kinda anyone but flor....if tony lives in the virginia beach area there is work to be done. anytime you live in a resort area you can always find work. maybe not work with benefits....but work to keep you from being homeless....i'm really like mike....he keeps it real.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 1:40 pm
someone posted that flor and jim live in florida but hoped it wasn't in the house that was built for the show.....how is it known they are living together in florida???? hope you don't mind the question was just wondering....and i hope flor didn't win the house myself
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Ladybug007
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:04 pm
i thought jim was married??
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:35 pm
ladybug so did jim's wife!
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 4:16 pm
lol Upstate!
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Littlec
Member
11-14-2003
| Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 10:58 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe it was star magazine that stated that the Flor and Jim were living together. I believe they tried to contact her and they reached an answering machine that had both of their voices on it. Now in regards to Tony. I really liked Tony(I even got passed the remark about god when John got evicted), but my problem is why would you continue to take advantage of a system that was made for people who need it. In my opinion he should be kicked out of the shelter. I don't think anyone that has $10,000 in savings(granted it is because of the show) shouldn't be allowed to stay. As for his injury, maybe try a different profession. If his family meant that much to him then get a job at McDonald's or something. Provide for them. Hope I don't sound too cruel. It just upsets me. In my opinion a shelter is for people in need(which when you have $10,000 in savings you are not). Well there are my hope I didn't offend anyone too much.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 3:23 am
Littlec--no, you didn't offend me at all. That's why I was surprised when Tony said he was putting the money away. One thing I wondered is if Tony was suddenly confronted by the gift and the cameras, and just said that (after all, it's a good thought if you were financially stable). And then, hopefully, once he is home, he & his wife will plan out the spending for an apartment, medical needs, etc. I agree with you, that with 10,000.00 he should not be living in a shelter, nor should that be acceptable to him or his family.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Thursday, March 11, 2004 - 3:42 am
Upstate, I so agree (with you & other posters here) on Jim and Flor--I really hope that the only reason they're living in Florida is because the met there--not that Flor got the house! Thanks for the inside info, Littlec!
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