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Zules
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 2:22 pm
Tabby, she seemed very normal, sweet even. And it was obvious that she thought the world of him. It's just that not everyone understands her Sammy. The only weird thing was she wouldn't come and sit on the couch until Katie, Matt, Ann & Al all greeted her properly.
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Pamy
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 3:52 pm
Can someone find a screencap of his girfriend?? I am dying to see what she looks like LOL Zules about her not comming out
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Denecee
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 5:21 pm
I'm laughing my you know what off.
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Spygirl
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 6:15 pm
Greeted her properly???
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Denecee
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:06 pm
Maybe Sam told her that unless you are invited to sit down, you should not sit. Nevermind the obvious
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Abby7
| Friday, January 23, 2004 - 10:14 pm
she is not what i would have expected to be a match for sam. not even close. she looks so normal. very cute, late 20's, blonde, shoulder length hair. she just laughed off negative comments about sam. she said sam is addictive. (i think that is the word she used). she's right. although i was so glad he left, i'm sure i'll miss him. i even slo-mo'd the tape right when trump told him, "you are fired". it is so scary. his face even changed shades. i can't believe the women and their fighting. i can't see any reason for that. did you notice their "stuff" all over the place? it looked like they had lived there for months.
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Texaslawdiva
| Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 5:30 pm
I think where KATRINA WENT WRONG is that you cannot force someone to talk to you. When O left the meeting, she was signaling that she did not want to be bothered. But here comes K running behind her trying to talk. O handled herself well by saying ok ok ok, now leave me alone, she even tried to walk away, which peeved Katrina off. Then K got too aggressive, telling her to shut up, grabbing her arm, and impeding her pathway. O still remained pretty much calm. K needs to learn to just walk away. If you want to make a point fine, do it and leave it alone. She wants to argue all the time. I don't see DT getting rid of O b/c she is a team player. She steps up to the plate and hits a home run every time. When she does not like your idea she still gives 200%, she takes one for the team, she works HARD, she has great ideas, she is vocal and a great presenter (she was awesome on the marketing and negotiating tasks). DT has to see that. What her personal life is like w/ the women is irrelevant. O knows who, when, and where to turn it on. Many great deals, mergers and business transactions have been made between people who could not stand each other, but had a common goal and knew how to reach it professionally despite their differences. OMAROSA HAS MASTERED WHAT MANY CANNOT DO EVER IN LIFE! She can curse you out one minute, then make a billion dollar business deal with you the next. She is DT's APPRENTICE!!!!
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Catfat
| Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 9:02 pm
I keep getting Omarosa and Camille from America's Top Model mixed up, can't remember who said what. Is it the hair-do? Or the manicure? Or the gestures? Both are tall and pretty and smart. Hmmm--I think they are really the same person, I think I am on to something.
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Tabbyking
| Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 9:52 pm
zules, LOL at the girlfriend not joining them on the couch until they had all greeted her!! too funny
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Tabbyking
| Saturday, January 24, 2004 - 9:54 pm
and if sam really did somehow buy an apartment in trump's building, maybe that's an attraction for his gal....'marry for money'.......
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Tobor7
| Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 12:52 pm
So Sam got the boot. About time. I would have liked to see the differences on all the items they had to get. It really wasn't an exercise in negotiation... it was low-level street haggling. (Which I hate, and I hate to do it. Someone sets his price. Either pay it or don't, but don't try to talk him down.) Now... negotiation is something else. Too bad they didn't really have to do THAT. These girls are going to run out of situations where they can use sex. (It seems that this is their only weapon. And a guy's nightmare in a business world.) The bottom line is... any one of those girls could have offered at least a minor sexual favor in exchange for whatever they wanted to buy and they would have gotten it for free. (At least 7 of the items at least.) I wonder if it will come to that? The guys should have traded the fact that IF they bought the item from the person for the price they were offering... that person would get on TV for sure. If they didn't buy it... then they would miss their "TV opportunity." Who wouldn't give away an item at their cost to get on national TV??? Am I missing something here? You walk into a store with TV cameras... right away you have a special situation. I just feel like they didn't USE that enough. (Did you notice that DT said "you're fired" to Sam THREE different times!) I wonder when people will start to "set up" the strongest players to fail as project managers to get them out of the way? I felt the guys didn't "throw" the task. They seemed to try their best.
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Babyboo
| Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 7:59 pm
I agree with Texaslawdivas entire post and i would really love to see Omarosa win this thing, I think she has what it takes.
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Dahli
| Sunday, January 25, 2004 - 8:52 pm
I agree Tobor... my DH is a 'negotiator' and I always thought it meant both parties bring something to the table, (besides $)these were just transactions to me...
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Tabbyking
| Monday, January 26, 2004 - 12:09 am
editing can certainly be adding to what is making omarosa seem so 'horrid' to so many viewers. i still don't find her very likable, but maybe all of the gals are as bad and things are just focused on omarosa right now--i know i didn't much care for tammy the first episode!--but editing does not dress her. i have a problem with omarosa's non-professional attire. JMHO okay, i'm done
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Tabbyking
| Monday, January 26, 2004 - 12:16 am
although they are not supposed to let people know of the 'game' or donald trump, (or the combover in case someone doesn't see it, lol), obviously the people the contestants are dealing with can see the cameras that come with the group. so i would agree that it would seem they could say that if they did some business with this merchant this merchant would probably be on tv at some point. that might be a 'dealing point'...unless you had children and you had skipped out on child support payments i still think i would take a polaroid camera with me and have my pic taken with the person(s) i dealt with, then sign it with a sharpie and tell them to "hang on to it, it might be worth something one day!" it would be nice to find out exactly what the rules say about just what they can say to people.
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Spunky
| Monday, January 26, 2004 - 3:07 pm
oh Tobor, I can see in later episodes (when they're playing individually) that Trump will allow the women (and the men for that matter) to use "any" means to get what he asked for, and an "indecent proposal" should be in the bag for either the woman and the man. I can bet that the woman will go for it... she will offer sex to win the challenge... (I think this is what makes many viewers (male) stay tuned... eh, eh...) and Trump is counting on this for ratings...
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Needmylifeback
| Monday, January 26, 2004 - 5:36 pm
I wish I was on the womens team for this episode...I would have called my BIL and asked him where to get the Calloway club....he'd probably have it waiting there for free! (He works for C.)...That would have been 100% savings! ...Barganing can be using your connections...I would have thought of everyone I knew and had the team do the same...and start calling in favors...I sat there wondering why the men didn't get a better price on the cigars...(although they did get a discount) doesn't one of the guys own a cigar store?????... I was LOL at Sam in the Taxi....Mr. Trump shook my hand and he was saying "Win this one Sam..." ... LOL! Sam, I got news for you...He was saying to himself ..."I can't believe I didn't fire you last time when I had the chance..."
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Meemo
Member
08-13-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:34 am
i think omarosa is use to being in charge and having things done a certain way. she "needs" to be involved in everything that's going on. which is not always a bad thing. BUT i also think all the girls are using her as a scapegoat. trying to blame all their problems of not getting along on her. if she were not there i could STILL see problems between the other girls. then who will they blame it on? btw-love your username needmylifeback i feel like that when i try to watch too many shows at one time!!
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:36 am
Okay, I was flipping back and forth last night during the AI commercials and caught the arm grabbing incident. Wow! That was totally inappropriate and unprofessional. I still think Omarosa is annoying as all get out but Katrina was way, way, way out of line. Looking forward to the show tonight!
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:50 am
I, unfortuneately, have been in Katrina's situation and have done the same thing. It's completely frustrating when you have something to say and the person you're trying to have a talk with is speaking over you and not giving you the courtesy of a moment to speak your mind. When they walk off in the middle of it it's extremely frustrating & I can completely understand what happened. My blood was rising as I was watching the entire exchange since I've been there, done that! I'm not proud of it, however, I don't call it completely out of line.
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:39 am
Hi Djgirl - I agree, totally frustrating! Omarosa's attitude has bothered me from the beginning, I am definitely not rooting for her. While I understand the level of frustration, having too been there myself, in my opinion a physical confrontation is not the way to go. It's like throwing fuel on a fire. And since these women are trying to compete for a position in a professional environment, any amount of physical agressiveness is, to me, well out of line. I respect your opinion though. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
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Costacat
Member
08-02-2002
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 10:52 am
Yeah, I'm with DJ on this one, too. Omarosa wouldn't let Katrina finish a sentence, and that was rude enough. But to walk away in the midst of a conversation. I got the impression that Omarosa was acting like a baby (like, if I can't be the big boss, I'm gonna take my toys and go play in another sandbox). I do think Katrina got a little overworked during that exchange, and I do think she could've had a better "handle" on her emotions. But I can totally understand where she's coming from (at that age, I let my emotions get the better of me in many a business situation). As far as acting professionally during that exchange, I disagree with that statement. They were in the hotel room, not in a business environment. Yeah, yeah, they are being filmed and yeah, yeah, they are competing for a position in a mega-conglomerate. Still... Omarosa just plain bothers me. I really dislike people who don't let others talk (what? are you too important to have to listen?). Listening is a big reason some people are so successful!
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 11:24 am
Omarosa bothers the hell out of me too. I'm hoping she's gone this week. I work with a boss who is just like her - rude, never lets you finish a sentence, thinks because he's loud he's right, etc. This happens on a daily basis. I can tell you there are times I want to do more than grab him by the arm - somedays it's more like by the neck. But I don't because in business you have to have a handle on your emotions. I know it was a hotel room and not a boardroom but if Katrina can't keep her emotions under control when she knows that cameras are on her and millions of people are watching, then when can she?
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Chellemmm
Member
11-16-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 12:25 pm
I think the reason O. didn't let K. finish her sentance was because K. was babbling on and on about what a great person she was. Who cares? That is not the point of this show, how "great" a person is. Okay, she made her point. Then she repeated it. Then she repeated it AGAIN. How many times did she have to repeat it before O. walked away? I am no big fan of O., but K. looked like an idiot. It is not a sorority. Granted, y0u have to be "nice," but K. was totally overreating and belabouring her point. I would have walked away, too. There was nothing else to be said by O. K. just wanted validation about what a great person she was. It was not constructive criticism, it was K. tooting her own horn (and playing for the cameras). O. has been very effective in accomplishing the TEAM's goals, even if she disagrees with the others. I would not have wanted K. to grab me and try to block my exit. THAT was totally unprofessonal, not to mention the garbage she was babbling. I am rooting for the guys, specifically, TROY, Bill and Nick.
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Spunky
Member
10-18-2002
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 12:43 pm
To me it seemed that it was Kat who was "crowding" Om, and that "shutup!!" and arm grabbing by Kat was a very intimidating approach and if that's the way she gets up on the ladder, well she'll fall off one of these days...
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 1:19 pm
Zules, I concur - agree to disagree... let me articulate that I have reacted that way in my personal life, and have never reacted like that in my professional life. In fact, mosey on over to the vent thread, and you'll see what I put up with every single day here at work... basically a woman who doesn't know when to shut-up, talks over top, "knows everything", and is ONLY my co-worker... SO Annoying!!!! That being said, I cannot wait for the show tonight - I am constantly mesmerized by DT's hair, so I usually miss instructions from studying it for so long, however, I am definitely taping this show tonight so that I don't miss it... I too am rooting for Troy... he's the only one that has impressed me.
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 1:55 pm
Djgirl, I tried to find your posts in the vent thread but couldn't. I can certainly sympathize even without doing so by your above description. So, how about we strike a deal? I'll kick the crap out of your co-worker if you'll do the same to my boss. Hey, just cause we disagree doesn't mean we can't be friends and do each other favors right? At least we agree about Troy. I really like him too.
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:06 am
You got it!!!! BTW, here's my lengthy post at the vent thread: click here
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:25 pm
Dj, no wonder I couldn't find it, I was looking in the wrong place! Anyway, your coworker sounds like a real piece of work. I also do bookkeeping right now because with the economy so bad, people had to give up their massages. I am not having fun in the office environment - it sucks. I get paid fairly well but I feel like walking out on a daily basis. It's just me and the boss here and yesterday he threw, yes THREW, two pens across the office because they don't write. Then he turned and yelled, yes YELLED, at me "Why don't these f***ing pens write?!" Yeah, it's my fault your pens don't write. I suppose it's also my fault that his bi-polar, manic depressive, obsessive compulsion, goes on undiagnosed. Awww, shoot - looks like I need to get over to the vent or grouch thread! I'm usually pretty upbeat despite all this stuff but sometimes it comes spilling out! Anyway, I'm looking forward to him coming in battered and bruised and knowing it was your handy work. Geez, I'll feel bad kicking the crap out of a 66 year old woman but hey, she's got it comin'!
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:37 pm
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!! I'll have fun with that one for ya!!!!! Don't you worry, he won't like meeting me in a dark alley!!!
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Zules
Member
10-29-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 1:19 pm
Yippee, now I feel better!
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Djgirl
Member
10-06-2003
| Friday, January 30, 2004 - 6:18 pm
Good stuff!!! 
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