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Littlec
Member
11-14-2003
| Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 1:29 pm
Maybe lending tree gives them a loan to pay the taxes. Cathie, I went to A&E official site and they also have last Tuesday's episode repeated on Monday with the finale on Tuesday. Show times are suppose to start at 11 pm EST.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Sunday, March 21, 2004 - 8:54 pm
Thanks, Dipo, for the information on the taxes. I would guess, assuming one qualifies, that Lending Tree could loan the money using the house as collateral--like a second mortgage with lower payments than most first mortgages. I could live with Tweety's scenario! I appreciate the information on the episodes--today's repeat only aired last Monday's, so I really hope to catch both shows.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 6:14 pm
Tonight's the night. Of course I will come in here and cheat (thanks Littlec) and see what happens early.
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Littlec
Member
11-14-2003
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 6:20 pm
I will let you know as soon as I find out. I am hoping Mike wins!!!
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 8:02 pm
Me too and thanks in advance!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:02 pm
Please do some spoiling if you can, I can't wait for 3 more hours to find out who won.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:07 pm
Apparantly, I'll have to wait till next week to see who wins (if nobody spoils here). I didn't get last week's episode (where Mike picked Viveca) till last night. I checked our local listings over and over through the week, and all they had were movies. Same with this week!
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Littlec
Member
11-14-2003
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:18 pm
I am watching now will post in a little while
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:28 pm
And it's Viveca! And I know she's a great person but I was rooting for Mike. But Mike seems thrilled with the $20,000 2nd place prize so everyone is happy! Whew ~ And Flor just really didn't care who won because she hopes to never see either ever again. 
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Ladydewtel
Member
07-18-2002
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:34 pm
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler Vivica wins the house
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:39 pm
What an unhappy winner for me, I don't think Vivica will really use the home. It is hard for me to see her taking the house. I am bummed.
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Littlec
Member
11-14-2003
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 10:43 pm
Here's a little recap of what happened. In the beginning of the show they recapped all the shows of who was evicted. Then Viveca and Mike went on a helicopter ride around the town. Then they moved in the furniture and there was a little surprise there for them. A huge hdtv(64inch i think). Flor was VERY bitter!!! I am skipping some here. Then we get to the jury and Viveca went first and told them flat out that she didn't know where she would be in a year. Then Mike went and I thought he gave an awesome speech. He even impressed Tony. Tony said something to the effect that he had really grown. Well that's all I can remember off hand. Anyone feel free to add anything I missed.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:03 pm
Thanks so much for the update, now I can get to bed early. Did they show any of the debate or thought process to figure out what possessed these people to pick viveca???
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, March 23, 2004 - 11:04 pm
Thanks for the spoiling. Funny, I kept watching people walk around on that upper level balcony/porch (or whatever they call it) with no railing, and wondered if they would ever put one up. Then, in the ep I watched last night, first it wasn't there, then all of the sudden it was (along with one around the lower level porch). I guess that was just a task they didn't cover in the show? Or did I miss it? Or maybe they just hired someone to come in and put it up.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 12:00 am
Well, I guess I will just wait until Sunday and watch the replay. I don't need to stay up till midnight to see Viveca win.
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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 1:13 am
Vivica. Oh well...
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 1:52 am
I would have felt the same either way.. oh well.. He definitely gave the better speech but I suspect hers was more honest. In other words, I don't trust him at all. I think the points about the house being isolated for Mike and having it handed to him too young were somewhat valid. It was also interesting when Mike got the check for $20,000, he was excited, just as all the other check winners were.. the house is worth magnitudes more, yet for most of them, the check is a nice chunk of change, even after taxes and yet less complicated and... well, I do think that for most of them winning would have included the gut-wrenching possibility of having to sell or take a large mortgage. I would think that if Vivica spent time there and ended up writing, she might even stay, since a huge percentage of circus people do winter in Florida. But, who knows? I also think perhaps Mike's betrayal of Naomi may have sealed his fate.. had he taken her to final two, he would have been true to his promise and he might have even won and had he lost, his friend would have the house.... This has to be one of the toughest games for the participants to lose and I thought making the jury bring in the furniture was unnecessarily cruel. The host didn't help, he seemed to cast a "downer" vibe from the first week, at least for me.
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Tweety
Member
04-14-2003
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 8:18 am
I agree with Seamonkey - making the jury help move in all the furnishings and stuff for the house was very cruel. Viveca didn't even seem to try in her speech and for that alone I wouldn't have given her the house. (I also don't like UTR players winning) Did you notice how unhappy everybody seemed to be through the entire show? Far from being a celebration, the BBQ seemed like a wake. They definitely had more fun around camp. I found the entire episode depressing to watch, and possibly a reality show experiment gone horribly wrong. Does anyone live near Harmony? What's happened with the house? (I'm assuming this show was taped awhile ago).
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 1:21 pm
Tweety, exactly.. an experiment gone wrong.. other reality shows involve big winner and lots of losers but they haven't fallen in love with the prize.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 2:10 pm
BTW according to the show website, the vote was 4-1 for Viveca. Tony was the only person to vote for Mike. I guess Mike just had too many enemies on the jury....
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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 3:19 pm
I think the vote might have been a lesser of two evils thing. Give the house to the young, party-hardy frat boy or give the house to someone can only commit to six months of residence. Sigh.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 4:35 pm
You are so right Jh. I would want the house to go to someone who I know would love it and live in it and bring lots of love and joy into it.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 4:48 pm
I still think it would've had a different outcome if the votes from the beginning had been private... from the A&E website: Viveca, 37, is a circus juggler with degrees from Harvard and Yale. A funny, amicable gal on the surface, she is a consummate thinker who always analyzes every point of view before making decisions. She wants this house so she'll have the freedom to juggle more pursuits, and also to give her fellow circus friends a place to get some rest. From Harvard... hmmm, a circus juggler, she must really be trying to "find" herself...
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 5:47 pm
So the circus gang will be hanging at the dream house. Now, there's a reality show in the making.
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Dynair
Member
01-06-2004
| Wednesday, March 24, 2004 - 6:56 pm
About the outcome, I agree--oh well. Vivica was certainly edited in a more sympathetic light last night--vulnerable and uncertain. After seeing Flor's attitude I am again glad that neither she nor Jim won. And I agree about the downer aspect. Earlier I posted that I thought Jim & Flor's antics brought the game aspect down because it would hurt at least one person in the real world. Now I think it was more, and do agree that bringing the group in for the move was cruel. People who had left the show happy with a Lending Tree check were bitter. It seemed hard on Naomi. The only person who seemed truly detached was Sherrill. LOL-"finding herself"--the circus gang reality show sounds fun!
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