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Babyjaxmom
Member
02-14-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 9:28 am
I'm convinced Adam uses one of those special shavers that purposely leaves stubble for that "Miami Vice" look. Someone needs to tell him it doesn't work for him. He just looks scruffy!
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Glennk
Member
12-19-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 10:05 am
2 points. First, just because someone has minor acting experience doesn't negate the legitimacy of the show (other things do). There are thousands of out of work "actors" in California just waiting to be discovered. David's reasons for being on the show may be that he is hoping for more TV time than the other guys, so he know it does him no good to act poorly in front of the cameras. You can bet that Larissa and most of the 'hunks' aspire to be more than a contestant on a reality dating game show too. Secondly, what is it that the "Average Joes" think they signed up for anyway. Did they know they were going to be on a reality show vying for the attention of a beauty queen who wouldn't look at them twice otherwise? I think I would have left after seeing her reactions the first day. The only reason to stay (especially after the hunks arrived)would be to either get some TV time or just enjoy the vacation home and commoradery of fellow AJs. I think we are being treated to alot of editting regarding their chances with Larissa, as most of the anger is from being belittled by the producers and losing control of the house. As Sean said in the preview of the next show, "She's out of my league."
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Floridagirl1010
Member
09-17-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 10:16 am
This show is fake...most of the time she looks like she is posing for a model shoot! Then when she opens the door for eliminations...she shwooshes open both doors with this serious look on her face...give me a break! If I wanted to watch a modeling shoot I would watch that show...I tuned in to see if they could really pull this off. I don't like her...I don't like the editing and I certainly don't like to watch the dorks get humiliated on national tv...even if they knew ahead of time the premise of the show. I've decided to stop wasting my time and hope for a better reality show to come on soon Sorry had to vent...she just got on my last nerves after the last show.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:45 pm
COOL! A new look for TV clubhouse! I agree with you guys, these Average Joes are being humiliated. Back to School was such a set up if I had been one of the nerds I just would have refused. Sean looked like a real trooper trying to do the Monkeybars etc. He could have really injured himself at his weight. And DODGEBALL??? as a serious competition?? The jocks always loved to pelt the nerds at my school....to watch it reinacted 20 yrs later on TV was just as enfuriating to watch. PLEASE let the producers WAKE UP and realize we arent amused.}
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Danzdol
Member
05-15-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:57 pm
As much as I want to cheer on the Average Joes I just found myself drewling over the Klein guy (With the dimples), the one she kissed over and over. Whew! I don't really like the other ones much (I do like the first one (the one she had met before). Sorry I am bad with the names. When I was single I dated a lot of hot guys so it's hard to impress me but this guy, wow! I even find myself not caring wether he even has a brain at all. It's more like "ok, shut up and let me look at you". My husband was laughing at me. He kept saying "yes, he's good looking" and when they would do a close up on him, he would turn immediately to catch my face and I kept trying not to react. It was too funny!
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Scribe
Member
07-12-2003
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 4:57 pm
Avg Joe Hawaii is the worst - I agree that the avg guys are far from average - wouldn't it be unique to have the premise be average guy (really average) meets average girl (really average). I dont watch this anymore - really is painful to see these guys -
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 6:07 pm
The new TV Guide mentions that they are "developing a female version of Average Joe" (page 11 of the issue with "Angel" on the cover) It also talks about Adam from the last "Average Joe"....looks like he gets to come back and get to be the one to pick a woman from a group of women...that "won't be a passel of plain Janes". "Instead, the ladies vying for his heart 'will run the gamut' of looks, according to the network's entertainment president, Jeff Zucker".
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Monday, February 02, 2004 - 8:48 pm
Larissa has really shown herself to be very thoughtful and considerate of the "average" guys' feelings. She doesn't spend the whole time drooling over the new guys. She is really looking at them as individuals and is looking at the whole person, not just the body. I like her.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, February 02, 2004 - 9:29 pm
Best part of tonight's show: Sean AFTER the show was over talking about running and working out - it showed him in the gym and then he showed how huge the pants he wore then were, and WOW. It was a total feel-good moment! Not just because he looks better, but because he obviously feels much better about himself and he is going to be so much healthier!!! Go Sean! I'm just really happy for him. 
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, February 02, 2004 - 9:41 pm
Oh, and why doesn't Brian from Boston ALWAYS wear his hair like that? Talk about a world of difference. I can understand him just letting it hang down when he's hanging around home, but why wear it nice on the date and then not at the elmination? He's shown wearing it styled again next week. Hmmmmmm I still don't understand her elmination as far as Mike S. from the Avg guys goes. He was the most appealing to me, even with all the tatoos. I think the "other Brian" even asks her next week why he's still there. They haven't even spent any time together. I'm hoping maybe she didn't want to hurt Mike since he was honest about having not dated in a year and his past problems w/drugs. At least I hope, that's the reason she let him go. There's actually another one of the avg. guys who she's spent little time with. It didn't make sense to me to keep them and not one of the ones she had. She did seem for the most part to pick two of the guys she never really got to know from the "hunk" group. Too bad Theo came off as an immature tattle tale. All I could think of when he was breaking down and saying he WAS one of the avg. guys - he used to get picked on in HS, etc., is that when he was drawing that picture, it really was a reflection of his past. It seemed to me that he was having to reassure himself that he belonged with the "hunks" and that's why he drew the desparaging picture of the avg. guys. I also never heard the word "beaver" used in the way Mike C? said it was used, but then Fredo affirmed that's what he was saying - it means a hot chick in slang. (They're the two who knew one another since they're from the same home town.) I've always heard it to mean something very deragotory. Hmmmmm... Looks like the tide gets turned on Larissa next week - another hot chick shows up to mess w/"HER" men, as she said. I too, was impressed with how she seemed concerned about the avg. joe's feelings. I'm surprised though that she kept that other Michael guy when it was Brian from Boston who told her he was the one who was being really arrogant. I have to say, she sure did suck face more w/him than anyone else, so far! She sure did guard herself Todd. I was surpised. I'm starting to think that Brian from Boston might just end up as one of the final two - although Tony has always been my choice as the front-runner, since the beginning.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 1:57 am
Larissa must be a complete idiot to fall for the old line. "I did say Beaver but I meant that you were HOT" or some silly madeup excuse. ** We ALLLLLL know what part of the body he was referring to. I just cant believe that Larissa would keep that guy after he even admitted feebly that he DID say it. This show is soooo rigged. I guess the producers wanted that guy to stay, because I cant think of one reason she would keep him and get rid of Theo. He had proved that he had told the truth. How Theo came off looking the worst is a mystery to me. So he drew carticatures of the Nerds first night, ALLLLLL carticatures are exaggerations of bad points. Anyone with a brain knows that, IMHO.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 1:58 am
OH YEAH, and SEAN LOOKED GREAT!!!! I wonder how much weight he lost. A guess would be at least 50 lbs!
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Cr8ofdata
Member
01-13-2004
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 6:09 am
They said at the end that he lost 70 lbs! That was the greatest moment so far in this show.
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 8:52 am
Watching2, I'm from Ohio, and beaver is a slang term referring to female genitalia. Referring to a woman as a beaver is reducing her to that. I would be very offended if anyone called me that. What disgusted me is that Fredo called her a piece of a** immediately after meeting her. Makes the Ohio guys look wonderful doesn't it? Fortunately not all of them are as suave and debonaire as these two guys.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 9:01 am
Just watched the tail end of the Today show, where the guys that were sent home were on talking to Matt Lauer. Sean did indeed look fantastic, he says he went from Reality TV to reality web weight training... or something similiar, he apprently is trying to help others reduce like he has, he had a website but I forgot, I'm sure we could get it off the NBC Today web addy!! Anyway, it was interesting, esp David talking about his swimming experience. When Matt asked who they thought Lrissa would pick, they all felt she would pick an averege Joe... huh? I still think she enjoys making out with the "hunks" I think she enjoys the conversations, and the time she spends with the Joe's, but I just dont see a love connection there.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 1:59 pm
These boys are bigger drama queens than any of the woman on America's next top model. Get over it. Yeah, sure the beaver comment is offensive, but they made a federal case out of it - same deal for the comic. If you look at ANY comic that seriously, someone will be offended. Comics are characatures. Blah to all these guys. That Michael C guy espepcially (If I'm going down, I'm going to make sure I take him with me...) Does little tiny whiny baby mean anything to you Mike??!!?? Fredo complaining a comic makes him look bald and fat?? whiny too. Ugh!!! The boston guy bugged me. He says "I'm telling you stuff I don't tell anybody" Yeah, ok buddy - so now you decided to spill it in front of video cameras and you know this will be BROADCAST ON NATIONAL TV??!!?? Sorry, these reality tv romance shows are soooo fake!!! There is no way even 10% of what they say is from a natural honest location with all those cameras around. I did love him saying 'wicked' this and 'wicked' that. That is sooooo that area of the country. I had a good friend that grew up near there. She also uses 'wicked' for everything. Then the editing - they make a big deal out of the Boston guys HAIR CUT. Hair cuts are generally a permanent change on a short term basis - yet all the clips shown after the date he had the exact same 'do from prehair cut. Who knows when that date actaully took place?? I was happy to see the chef guy take his health serious. He's a cuty I hope he keeps it up. I know from personal experience it's a long hard road to slog - good for him for putting in the work!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - 5:21 pm
Gemma, I'm from Western NY (not far from Ohio) and that's what "beaver" means here too. It was just weird when Fredo said it meant "hot chick" and the way they edited it, it at least sounded like he said something like she's a hot "beaver." Not has a HOT.... well, you know what I mean!! It's all in the editing, I'm sure. I caught the guys on The Today Show, also. David said he wouldn't let them change his appearance by any suggestions of, i.e. getting a hair cut, changing his glasses, etc. I'm sure that's what probably happened with Brian. The producers decided to spruce him up for the date and it appears they do the same thing again next week. What a great thing for Sean! Not only is he getting healthy, but he's helping others. Super!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:20 am
In my opinion, Larissa seems to be a lot more "real" than Melana (was that her name?). She (Larissa) really seems to care about the guys, and their feelings. I can totally understand why she let two of the new guys go (she never really got to know them). I'm not sure I would've kept Mike C. though. As far as the old guys, I'm glad to see David go (there was no way I could see the two of them together forever). And Mike S. definitely... I think she had given him a chance after he told her how his life revolves around his religion, but I can also see how, if that's not where you are at, it could be an issue. I was very sorry to see Sean go, but I was VERY glad to see how he looked at the end. You go, Sean! Looking goooood! I liked how Larissa called David up to speak to him a bit more confidentially. I don't know how much the other guys could hear, but I think it spoke miles of her character. She really seemed to be torn, and I like how she handled herself. So next week... a "hot chick" shows up and stomps on "her" territory. Oh boy. I'm more interested in seeing what it is that the guys in the house "blow up". That just seemed, I don't know, weird to me! As far as the "beaver" comment... I don't know where Larissa was raised, but there is no way I would ever EVER even remotely CONSIDER a relationship, no matter how short, with a man who was that disrespectful. I don't know about men from Ohio, but where I come from and how I was raised, that is one of the most derogatory terms that can be applied to a woman. Right up there with the "c" word and the "m" word. I kind of felt sorry for Theo, but really, drawing caricatures? If he felt he had to draw something, he could've kept it to himself (and not shown it to ANYONE, including the other new guys). I did feel bad for him cause I did feel his emotions were real. But still... dude, you are on national TV. What the HECK were ya thinking? Just cause you WERE one of those picked-upon guys doesn't make it right.
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Lauram
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 3:32 pm
I did feel for Theo, and I see the humor in a characature but I feel his bent was wrong. Having been on the other side and knowing that it's not looks that make the guy, Theo's reaction could have been a charicature of Larissa handing on to the average Joe's and saying why bring in the studs?
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Lauram
Member
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 6:22 pm
that should be "Larissa hanging on the average Joe's and asking why bring on the studs?"
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:37 pm
OK, I watched part of the bachelorette tonight. and one thing the guys seem to have, they all could make a connection (could they have picked any more pharmacetical salesmen tho?!!!) and in Average Joe? NOT! So that is what bugs me most, this show is all about manipulation and ratings. The "hunks" were sterotypes, the "joes" were sterotypes, for a TV show. That's not to say the same thing isnt done in producing the bachelor shows, its just that there seems to be more connection, with drama thrown in... ah well, its tv... and I do turn in!! darn it!! 
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 10:16 am
Reader, you're right! The Average guys are definitely stereotypes. I don't see her making a romantic connection with any of them, but I do see her being friends with them. She does seem to care about them as people, but I can't see her being that attracted to them. Most of them are just weird. And the HUNKS! What a bunch of egotistical jerks! Especially that Mike guy (the one that called her the nasty name). I can't believe she kept him! He just seems so obnoxious to me in every way! As my grandmother used to say, "Pretty is as pretty does!"
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, February 06, 2004 - 11:33 am
are there any hunks on this show that have personality?
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Suitsmefine
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, February 06, 2004 - 10:16 pm
No.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, February 07, 2004 - 3:27 pm
Mike C has a personality, but I don't particularly care for it. 'squeek'
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