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Tabbyking
| Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 11:47 pm
the best line of the whole show was milli vanilli or whatever trump's girlfriend is named...when one of the girls told her how lucky she was and she said, (paraphrased) "and what about him, he's not lucky?" place was over the top for me and i'm afraid of heights! LOL i'm not really into modern or whatever all the frou frou crap was, but i did like the idea of a huge dining table, although trump said he couldn't remember when he had last sat there to eat! what i'd like to see is a show like this where all of the 16 people are actors and donald is really going to pick someone off the tvch board based on their illustrious and witty posts in this thread right here...to be earning big bucks for a year. 
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Scorpiomoon
| Thursday, January 08, 2004 - 11:51 pm
Re: DT's pad: He said he only let presidents and kings up there. What a load of crap. I've seen him give tours on a few TV shows. I agree with you guys. The place doesn't seem homey. I have to wonder if he even spends a lot of time there.
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Jhezzie
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:51 am
Can you imagine coming home to that after a long, hard day? All that gold and glistening marble, blinding you when you walk in.
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Crossfire
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 12:52 am
His pad looked more like a museum than a home to me. I'd rather live in a log cabin given the choice.
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Max
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 1:04 am
Just watched my recording of this show. LOVE IT! All these eager-beaver kids are certain to get knocked down a couple of pegs as things progress. I could not believe that David sat there in the board room and said that sales wasn't his forte! My goodness! You're sitting in a room with one of the best salesmen around, and you say that?! Right then, I figured he'd be the one to go. Actually, when he was being the buffoon and running around with the sign obstructing the bicyclist's and the walker's paths, I started pegging him to go right then. I imagine that the presence of the cameras kept people laughing at him a little longer than they would have otherwise. He's lucky someone didn't clock him! Trump's apartment is WAY over the top. To me, it's so over the top that it's gauche. Sorta screams nouveau riche. Certainly not homey, as others have mentioned. LOVED it when one of the gals (don't know which one) asked him when was the last time he actually had dinner in the dining room! Gutsy and right on point. Sam is awfully dramatic. I agree with Trump, it's not clear yet whether he's crazy in a good way or a bad way. Certainly he needs to take a look at his style of interacting with team members and make some adjustments to his interpersonal skills if he's going to last. The gal who went and got lunch (was that Tammy?) was complaining about how her feet hurt. Poor thing. Might want to go invest in some comfortable shoes, honey! Oh, and if you get hungry, it would be polite to at least ASK the rest of your team if they want something and maybe offer to go get some snacks for everyone or something instead of just heading out for an hour on your own. Geez. Common sense and teamwork isn't in large supply here. Maybe it's because these folks are all "self-made" and tend to be individual entrepreneurs instead of working with a team to create success. All in all, this looks like a very, very entertaining (and perhaps somewhat educational) show. Time will tell! Oh, did anyone buy that Donald REALLY pushed the button to open the exchange right after he sent the teams on their way to sell lemonade? Nice editing of some stock footage, but I doubt it actually happened that way. (Yes, I'm cynical about this stuff!)
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Seamonkey
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 1:58 am
Sigh.. well I had this recording, but it was gone by the end of the evening from my DVR.. this happened one other time.. I'll survive and just pick up next week, after reading all your comments but I'm mildly irritated.. just too much on tonight.. I watched the US figure skating championships, then extreme makeover where they used some really new hearing aides to restore hearing to the woman they made over.. and then right into ER. Recorded some other shows, but lost this one.
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Seamonkey
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 2:15 am
Well, cool, it repeats on Saturday, thanks for the info above and I've got it set to record. I'll definitely watch; sounds good!
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Spygirl
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 6:47 am
What a great show!!!!!!! I'm so impressed!! Probably the best new reality show I've seen since TAR. Sam is somewhat embarrassing to watch because he is so dramatic, but at least he has passion. He lacks in the area of interpersonal intelligence, however. I do not see him winning this competition for that reason. He has the intellectual intelligence, but in this particular sector of business, the interpersonal/social skills are far more necessary for success. He simply doesn't have it. The lipstick woman...ack! And the miniskirt woman! Double ack! Dress appropriately! Overall, this is a very interesting and dynamic group of people. They are all rather attractive folks, aren't they? I knew the women would kill the men on this assignment because women can sell things much easier than can men on the streets (and I don't mean that exactly the way it sounds). What I mean is that people are more receptive to being approached by a woman than a man. Women are typically socially trained not to "talk to strangers" (i.e. men). But, women are more likely to respond to another woman if approached. So, the women really had access to both genders, whereas the men really only had access to men, and even then, their access is socially limiting. In other words, I think the men had more odds to overcome than did the women, so it wasn't surprising that the women did that much better than the men. One man mentioned the gender problem, but as a group they simply did not address that issue. I thought they had figured it out when they tried to get that woman to sell for them, but they didn't get the right type of woman, nor did they make it enticing to her to continue to participate.
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Eliz87
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 6:58 am
The Donald's apartment is sooooo lavish. OMG I loved it. I was trying to describe it to my husband and I'm glad they're reshowing this episode on Saturday so he can see the apartment. His girlfriend seems so wonderful. I loved it when one of the girls said how lucky she was and she said, "Oh, and Donald isn't lucky?" hehe Touche! And oh yeah, the premise of the show is good too. And the people seem interesting. :-) I liked when Donald kind of smacked Jason's hands in the board meeting, telling him that when someone is asking you a question, not to interrupt. But he did it in such a way that it wasn't nasty. It will be interesting watching his two sidekicks deal with the groups throughout the show.
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Texannie
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 7:01 am
I realize I have been out of the work force for a long time, but I was very surprised with the women's dress. The men all looked sharp and professional in their suits, but the women did not look like aspiring titans of business with their capri pants and belly buttons showing.
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Demeter
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 7:05 am
Actually, I think the men may have sold more lemonade, but they underpriced it compared to the women. The men were selling their lemonade for $1-2 and the women sold theirs for $5. Overall, the men were more organized and were clever in approaching local vendors for supplies, but they undersold themselves and, of course, the location was not too great. Trump picked the right person to fire. Sam is going to provide drama, but I certainly would not want him anywhere near me. He is one of those that comes across as trying to overcompensate for his short stature. Full of blustery arrogance, but insecure. Hopefully, Tammy will not last. Erika? (the women's leader) may not last either...the tears are not going to work and she may not be tough enough for this job. Great show!
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Spygirl
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 7:19 am
I would be incredibly surprised if the men sold more more glasses than the women. I hold to the notion that the women didn't just make more, they sold more. Yes, they charged more per glass for some, but even still, if the men had charged $5 a glass, I doubt they'd have gotten it. I also doubt that the women sold each glass for $5, we just saw a couple of those transactions on tape - the impressive sales. I believe we are just more responsive to women in those cases. JMHO.
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Eliz87
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 7:37 am
Well, the women ended up with $1,250 -- $1,000 profit. That would be 200 cups assuming that they sold each and every cup for $5. The men ended up with $500 I think. That would be a $250 profit. It seemed they were selling most cups for $2, but they did sell a few for $1. That would be about the same amount of cups sold, give or take a few, but remember the men got their ice and cups for free too. I think the women really did sell more.
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Kady
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 7:46 am
I really like the fact that we saw DT throughout the whole show. I kinda thought he would show up at the beginning and again at the end but he is really being part of the progress. His apartment reminded me of a hotel lobby. Not the kind of place I would want to live. But then again DT has many homes so one of them may be comfortable and cozy.
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Maris
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:01 am
If anyone is watchinga repeat of the show, check what one of the women said when she was selling her lemonade for four bucks. She said, I can charge four bucks because I am giving my phone number with it. She also gave the guy a piece of paper with her lemonade. Did anyone else catch that? I wasnt sure at the time what she said but now I am betting it was a phone number. She would fit right in with a company like Enron or Tyco. I dont call that great salesmanship and if she uses deceptive tactics at the Trump Organization, she will bring Eliot Spitzer down on them like a ton of bricks. It also gets on my last nerves to watch women debase themselves like that, probably why the miniskirt got on my nerves too. I thought it fitting that the one woman who worked in the Clinton White House was wearing a bandaid as a skirt.
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Texannie
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:15 am
What were they all accusing Sam of doing? I know they said he cross the line. Maris, the women's dress was appalling to me!
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Luvmyjrt
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:21 am
I'll chime in here...... LOVE LOVE LOVE the show. A few thoughts: Tammy - Wasn't she the one that said at the very beginning that she didn't feel the need to make friends with anyone before they were even introduced? Also retouching lipstick before being introduced? Not a team player and never will be. Jason - loved Trump on the interruption. I can't ever imagine myself said "Let me finish" to my boss, and I'm a pretty ballsy woman! Sam - Trump telling him to sit down was priceless. I kept having the Godfather theme music run through my head and expected him to kiss Trumps ring on the way out! Bet that suite will be buzzing! Oh and, JMHO!
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Luvmyjrt
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:24 am
They are saying Sam tried to sell lemonade for $1000 to a customer. First of all it was stupid, second of was it really crossing the line? Trumps female assistant felt it was just a waste of 20 minutes. Can't really say I think it was crossing the line, but a little bizarre to say the least!
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Texannie
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:27 am
That? It was dumb but if he had done it, he would have been a hero! LOL I loved his logic that Trump sells over price real estate so why not sell the lemonade for $1,000!
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Maris
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:36 am
Well if trying to sell lemonade for $1000 is over the line, I sure think selling lemonade with your phone number is right up there. Great show. I think Tammy will be the first one the women vote off if they get to the Boardroom. For all her sophistication I couldnt believe that she asked how they keep the place clean. Hello billionaire???? I can see the girlfriend with a mop.
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Halfunit
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 8:48 am
Actually, I think selling lemonade for $1000 is brilliant. Buying it for $1000 would be the bad business decision. I think it was work a shot for Sam to try. The potential buyer had to wonder what was going on with the cameras and all, and I think he gave it serious consideration for a nanosecond.
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Luvmyjrt
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 9:14 am
I agree half --- if the guy had bought it, it would have been brilliant. I do think, however, that his Napoleon Complex was showing pretty brightly at that moment though!
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Laura11103
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 9:41 am
I taped this show but think I missed something, my tape got cut off, so did someone get fired? I missed the guys in the boardroom with Trump. Was it 1 1/2hours? Good thing it repeats tomorrow, that is correct right?
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Faerygdds
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 9:46 am
I think they thought he was crossing a line not by actually selling the lemonade for a grand, but didn't he say something out, "If you give me a check for $1000"... then Trump would know him or something like that.. maybe it was notice... Anyway.. he hinted that the person might actually get to meet DT. I can't wait to rewatch it... I want to double check that scene again.
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Maris
| Friday, January 09, 2004 - 9:55 am
Not everyone likes this show: There's nothing rich about 'Apprentice' By Steve Johnson Tribune television critic Published January 7, 2004 The biggest problem with NBC's new Donald Trump reality series is that it fails to make fun of Donald Trump, possessor of an extravagant comb-over and erector of not-at-all symbolic structures in New York and, soon, apparently, Chicago. As Paris Hilton, MTV's "Rich Girls" and assorted other television chronicles have shown, America certainly wants to watch the wealthy, but only when they're getting a comeuppance of one sort or another. In "The Apprentice," a competition among the usual reality-show types for a yearlong job with Trump and an undisclosed "huge salary" allegedly running one of his companies, the self-aggrandizing real estate developer is -- yawn -- a fish in water. Everything executive producer Mark Burnett ("Survivor") presents in Thursday's 90-minute first episode pushes the mythology of Trump as super-mogul, business genius and fellow worthy of our fascination. (The premiere is at 7:30 p.m. on WMAQ-Ch. 5, before settling into its regular time period of 7 p.m. Wednesdays.) He's seen in his wood-paneled boardroom, in his very long limousine, even in his Trump helicopter allegedly surveying how the male and female teams of aspiring minions are doing at their first task, a lemonade sell-off. He's even seen strutting, stud-style, into his hideously gold-plated penthouse apartment, a place packed with 20 times as much money as taste even before Trump enters. The guy, as The New Yorker showed in a delicious profile, can be eminently amusing precisely because he is such a blowhard. But "The Apprentice" presents Trump, perhaps because he is also an executive producer, as a paragon of hard work and smarts, even brushing off his brush with bankruptcy. "I used my brain. I used my negotiating skills. And I worked it all out," he says, neglecting to discuss where those attributes were when he was on the road to near-ruin. But there are problems here beyond The Donald on a pedestal. The show is about six years too late, a competition aiming to celebrate getting ahead in business that comes after Enron and after the dot-com wipeout. Even if the cultural moment were better, making money has never been much of a spectator sport. Watching people sell lemonade is, alas, like watching people sell lemonade. The cast, a mix of MBA types, entrepreneurs and sales folk, seems thin on villainy, comedy or conflict. And unlike Burnett's most successful reality show, there is no earthly reason to put any of the contestants here in a bathing suit, although Burnett certainly cast his women for bathing-suit attributes. The local contestant, Chicago cigar club founder Bill Rancic, acquits himself well enough in Episode One, but I can't tell you if he survives. NBC cut off the ending on the DVD sent out for review in the Trump-like delusion that people will actually find suspense in which of the 16 is fired first. Use your brain and use your negotiating skills, gentle reader. Don't let yourself get in a position where you're even the tiniest bit curious about the outcome of this show, one more edifice emblazoned all too prominently with the Trump name. 1,5302758.story?coll=chi-homepagenews-utl,link
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