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Starshine40
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07-30-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:52 pm
A quote from Philly.com, the Philadelphia Enquireer online dated March 2. "Love her or hate her • Regal, name-dropping, empathy-deficient Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, a star of NBC's addictive The Apprentice, honed her annoying ways while on Vice PresidentAl Gore'sstaff. "The traits she displays on the show she displayed to us," an unnamed former Gore insider told USNews.com about the former scheduler and receptionist. But a top Gore aide, also unidentified, said, "I loved her. I guess the others are just jealous." Whatever Omarosa's skills may be, they've thus far saved her from the ultimate Donald Trump put-down: "You're fired!" So now we know what her position was in the "Clinton White House". LOL
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Mssilhouette
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07-11-2001
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 2:06 pm
“Unnamed gore insider...lol isn't that newspeak for a made up a quote? If the insider is unnamed it could be anyone or no one. Please give a break with all this drama. In regards to Omarosa: Gee what if she was called the N word? Is it really that far fetched consider how in the first couple of episodes she was verbally attacked by Katrina and Erika...or does no one remember that. From the beginning, Erika kept saying, which seemed from out of nowhere "Omarosa is out to get me" It was only like the 2nd episode and at that point O was really not even shown that much. I do believe the Erika has some issues with race, and as far as attacks, E and K started it all. But O became the "villain." Now I'm not saying O is an angel, but these other 2 aren’t exactly innocent bystanders either. If someone alludes to another contestant being called a racial remark, but they don't name a name. Why do you need to hurry up and validate that it wasn't you. Heck if it was all lies then ignore it and allow the producers of the show fend it off. With the pot calling the kettle black comment, which was said by Erika when they went to Boston for dinner, O response to her was “You need to contain your prejudice” Again Erika went overboard in denying she said anything racial. Erika's behavior towards O after episode 2 seemed very ungrounded and she really had no reason to spew the venom towards O. While the producers say it wasn't captured on tape, that's not the same as saying it "didn't happen" 24 cameras going all the time, seemed to me they only had handhelds in the bedrooms of all the footage when they were in the bedrooms a crew came in and filmed. I'm sure they all had some privacy because it wasn't big brother. So while it can't be proven or disproven we can suspect the source but the we have to look at the situation as well. O does not need to keep herself in the media spotlight...LOL everyone "hatred" of her does that job. If nothing else this woman has had more camera time than ANY other kicked off person on a reality show. The more everyone dislikes her the more you see of her. LOL Now how's that for taking lemons and making lemonaide.
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 2:16 pm
Mis Sil, loved your post, especially the last line!
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Jblaca
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02-26-2004
| Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 6:02 pm
Of course the N-word incident didn't happen. Do you honestly believe <il> O would just not mention it?? That is laughable. She would be yelling it from the rooftops. The "pot calling the kettle" incident just showed how <il> she didn't seem to know that reference, all she heard was the word "black." You can blame everything on the "editing" if you want, but not the interviews, where O stood there regally with her scarf and couldn't have been <il>
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Mssilhouette
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07-11-2001
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 1:26 am
Jblaca, "of coures it didn't happen" I don't think we have any proof to confirm or deny that incident, so I wouldn't just say for a fact it didn't happen because we don't know. <edited reference so this doesn't make sense now - ModIL> like O? LOL have ya seen Erika and K lately? When do they ever stop talking?! I really don't think O is an <same thing again - ModIL> woman, her behavior may be in question and her social skills aren't exactly like silk but a lack of intelligence isn't how I would describe O, sorry that just doesn't apply to her. As we've been told it's not what you say it's how you say it..as far as "pot & kettle" incident, clearly E was trying to make O lose her cool but she didn't, what O did was put E in her place. Same way she did with K in the bedroom. You might not like O but the only time she lost her cool was when she was getting fired. Other than that she was calm under the verbal barbs of Katrina, Erika, Heidi, (um the other curly blonde woman..ya know Ms. Romance). What O did was handle their attempts at trying to ruffle her feathers and turned it around on them. I don't blame anything on editing. I think we have seen Survivor producers in the past make a storyline where there was none. It's not about applying for reality shows anymore it's "casting". And this show isn't any different. We could go down the line: Villian - Omarosa Hero - Troy Tragic Heroine - Heidi Romantic duo - Red head guy and curly blonde girl B**chy - K & Erika Eccentric(read:Crazy): Sam I'm sure there are things we didn't get to see on the Apprentice(whic they'll smack together for a "never before seen" episode) just as there are things that the cameras didn't catch. Frankly we'll never really know anything. But it does make for fun watching! Can't wait for Apprentice 2 - Wonder what charcters they'll create next
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Legalboxer
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11-17-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 2:21 pm
here is the transcript of heidi and O on MSNBC friday night on Debroah Noville's show. Back to back interveiws but not together ... NORVILLE: OK. Admit it. You‘re obsessed with reality TV. OK, don‘t admit it. But somebody‘s watching these shows. And “The Apprentice” has come on to the scene like gangbusters. It has had more than its share of controversial moments and characters. Last night featured the challenge of peddling rickshaw rides to raise cash. And when it was all said and done, the team that had the bright idea of soliciting ads to be put on the back of the rickshaws won the challenge hands down; 30-year-old Heidi Bressler from Philadelphia found that her team was on the losing end. And if that wasn‘t bad enough, she found that she was then herself off the rickshaw and instead riding a cab home. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, “THE TODAY SHOW”) TRUMP: You haven‘t lost as much, but in this event, you wouldn‘t step up as a leader and you barely contributed as a follower. Heidi, you‘re fired. (END VIDEO CLIP) NORVILLE: Well, it‘s not quite the Donald trump boardroom, but in my boardroom, we‘ve got Heidi Bressler right here. It‘s good to see you. HEIDI BRESSLER, FORMER CONTESTANT ON “THE APPRENTICE”: You didn‘t really look broken up when Donald Trump said, honey, you‘re out of here. (LAUGHTER) (CROSSTALK) BRESSLER: I was like, thank you. No, at that time, as I was saying, that day, I visited my mom in the hospital. So my mind wasn‘t there at that particular task, and I think Mr. Trump saw it. NORVILLE: And the reason you visited your mom was, while the competition was going on, she was diagnosed with colon cancer. BRESSLER: Yes. NORVILLE: How did you deal with that? BRESSLER: It was actually—everyone asks that. I guess I‘m very strong-willed and it wasn‘t difficult. It made me more focused. I had so much fun with it. And I was able to talk with her. And it made her stronger. NORVILLE: Knowing that Heidi‘s off doing this and she‘s having a great time. BRESSLER: Exactly. NORVILLE: It took her mind off her troubles. BRESSLER: Exactly. She would have been devastated if I had not done the show. NORVILLE: But you know what‘s funny? Donald Trump has this sort of image on the show, but he actually took you aside and had a little private conversation with you about this. BRESSLER: Let me tell you something. My mom having cancer, I made Donald look really good. I have to tell you, I made him look really good. NORVILLE: What did he say to you? BRESSLER: He was just like, is your mom OK, you know? Is there anything that I can do for you? Do you want to stay? Should you stay? And are you OK? I have something in my ear. NORVILLE: And he said it will be OK if you want to step away? There‘s no loss of face. BRESSLER: Oh, yes. Basically, he said that. And he was talking to me. He wasn‘t just doing it for the cameras. He was actually doing it because he cared, and I could see it. I‘m pretty · I can read people pretty well. NORVILLE: Now, you got kicked off last night, but really and truly, this all happened when, because we know the... BRESSLER: Oh, it happened in October, actually. So... NORVILLE: So you have had to keep quiet about all of this. BRESSLER: Yes, I had to keep quiet, absolutely. NORVILLE: How hard is that? BRESSLER: It was not hard. And considering people thought I would be so difficult because I have the biggest mouth. NORVILLE: You do look like you have got the gift of gab. BRESSLER: I do. I could talk to anyone. I could talk to the wall. But I was not telling people. So, in fact, yesterday, I literally had to sneak out, come to New York and just stay in my hotel room. NORVILLE: And what would have happened if you had accidentally spoken in your sleep and spilled the beans? BRESSLER: Mark Burnett will sue you for a lot of money and it‘s not worth it. NORVILLE: Like how much? BRESSLER: Oh, about $5 million. Even if you don‘t have it, it‘s not worth it, he‘ll go after you for everything you‘ve got. NORVILLE: Nobody on the show has $5 million. If you had $5 million, you wouldn‘t try to be “The Apprentice.” BRESSLER: Exactly. But you know what? He‘d go after you anyway. And is it worth it? No, they put so much time and effort. We do. It‘s not worth it. And it‘s not even about the money I‘m scared of. It‘s about why I even bother? Why I would ruin it for everybody? NORVILLE: What was interesting, in the beginning of the show, they had the girls against the guys. And in the beginning, the women were just knocking the guys‘ socks off. They were dropping like flies. And then they mixed the teams up, and what has happened? The girls are falling apart. You were the sixth woman in a row to get the boot. BRESSLER: Exactly. However, the women have been emotional in the boardroom and they did not stick up for themselves in the boardroom, and I think that is what‘s killing the women. NORVILLE: But you didn‘t stick up for yourself either. (CROSSTALK) BRESSLER: Absolutely. NORVILLE: You took what Donald said... BRESSLER: No, not with Donald. Donald was never mean to me. It was Carolyn. It was Carolyn. You‘re right. Oh, I definitely take the blame for part of that. Part of that was, I just was like, you know what? I don‘t feel like it anymore, you know? Because everyone that knows me keeps telling me, Heidi, that‘s not like you. What did we see up there? NORVILLE: We know that the dynamic of individuals changes when you‘re in a closed environment and you‘ve got 28 cameras, I think, looking at you from every conceivable direction. And one of the things they caught was this real butting of heads—and you know what I‘m going to say—you and Omarosa. What went on between the two of you? Because there was one tiff that got caught on camera that was a little testy. What happened? BRESSLER: Well, basically, you know, she was complaining that her head hurt and she got hit by the concrete, so—the cement. And, you know, we‘re just too different, and we worked together and we work very differently. So, anyway, she wanted to sit down and take a lunch. Now, I know New York City, especially Felix Restaurant, you cannot eat in 25 minutes. It would take an hour to two hours, so that‘s I was getting really frustrated. And so that‘s the big argument. I don‘t sit for two hours for eat. It‘s not the way I work. And she wanted to sit down. And I wasn‘t going to tolerate it. So you know what? Yes, I cursed at her, but... NORVILLE: She accused you of having no class. BRESSLER: Yes, that‘s really... NORVILLE: Was that the lowest below? BRESSLER: You know what? I have a lot of class. It wasn‘t the lowest blow, because I didn‘t cry and barge into a boardroom. I mean, come on, now. NORVILLE: What happens to you now? You‘ve ended your time on “The Apprentice.” You worked in sales before. Have you gone back to that profession? BRESSLER: I‘m currently still at my job. Throughout all of this, though, I‘ve experienced—and I realized there‘s so much more out there. Whatever business I go into, I‘ll always be selling, whether myself or products. There‘s so many opportunities. I‘ve gotten so many calls today, you know, either, Heidi, you‘re such a natural on camera. Think about this. Think about this. Or, Heidi, we‘d like you to look at this (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: Does that mean you‘re thinking of a TV career like everybody else in reality television. BRESSLER: No, I am not going to be that reality TV person that wants to be an actress. No, absolutely not. (LAUGHTER) NORVILLE: Well, whatever you are, we hope you have a lot of fun at it. BRESSLER: Exactly. NORVILLE: Heidi Bressler, congratulations. It was fun to watch you on TV. BRESSLER: Thank you so much. Fun being here. (CROSSTALK) BRESSLER: Thank you. NORVILLE: And speaking of lightning roads, we‘ve got the other one coming up. Omarosa is waiting in the wings. You heard what Heidi had to say. We‘re going to hear Omarosa‘s side of the story in just a minute. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) NORVILLE: Enter Omarosa. Without a doubt the most outspoken and controversial contestant on “The Apprentice” was Omarosa Stallworth. She was fired by Donald Trump last week when her team failed to sell the most paintings as part of that week‘s challenge. But she didn‘t go down without a fight, as she burst into Mr. Trump‘s office. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, “THE TODAY SHOW”) OMAROSA MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH, FORMER CONTESTANT ON “THE APPRENTICE”: Mr. Trump, I‘ve worked for the last two weeks. TRUMP: Omarosa, I didn‘t call for you yet. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I‘ve been running around for a week. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Whoa. Have problems. Life is full of problems. (END VIDEO CLIP) (LAUGHTER) NORVILLE: He was sympathetic. Her firing from the show hasn‘t silenced Omarosa one bit. She‘s hit the talk show circuit and says she is in discussions about having her own program and is developing, she says, her own line of clothing and she is here in the studio with us now. What were you thinking walking uninvited into someone else‘s office? If you weren‘t going to get fired, you definitely sealed the deal then. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Deborah, that was one of those classic reality television moments when you‘re told one thing and it turns out to be something else. NORVILLE: So the producers told you to go into the office? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: They told me that I was going to have a one-on-one with Mr. Trump to talk about my injuries. (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: This was from getting hit on the head from concrete. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I walked back into the boardroom. George and Carolyn are still sitting there. The lights are full-blare and Trump is looking like, what‘s going on? So it was one of most Mark Burnett moments. NORVILLE: But that‘s what makes the show good. They create good guys and they create bad guys. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It‘s the drama. But you know what? I knew what I was signing up for. I knew that I was going to go into a process that essentially took three days of filming and crunched it down into 42 minutes. So it‘s, in and of itself, a very interesting genre to present what we call reality. NORVILLE: Why did you get into it? What was your ultimate objective? Because everything going on to any of these reality shows, whether it‘s “The Apprentice” or “Survivor,” or you name it, there‘s a reason. There‘s something they want. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You‘re absolutely right. And I have worked in academics. I have worked in politics. I have worked in government. I wanted to make sure that I was building my political and my business aspect just the same. And it was an opportunity to become a CEO of Mr. Trump‘s company and skips 20 steps in the business world. NORVILLE: Do you really think for a minute that Donald Trump is going to let any of you guys have any real decision-making power, whoever ends up winning this thing? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I am absolutely confident that whoever wins will become a CEO of one of Trump‘s companies, and he is going to tailor it to whoever the individual that he selects is. NORVILLE: Well, time will tell. We will see. There‘s going to be another one, by the way. (CROSSTALK) MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: “Apprentice 2.” I‘m getting lots of calls from people, saying I want to apply and I‘m going to go on the show. But... NORVILLE: You, I think, were cast as a bad guy on the show. You are opinionated and proud to be so and a lightning rod for a lot of the other characters, not just the women, but certainly the women. They played it up more on the program. (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: Did it upset you to see the program unfold that way? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Deborah, as I watched it, I was just as entertained as anyone else, because I always say reality is very subjective. And it depends on whose perspective you‘re presenting. So you have to ask, whose reality was Mark Burnett presenting on the show? Because that‘s not the reality that I experienced while I was taping the show. NORVILLE: And when you‘ve talked with other contestants, have you had the sense of, man, that‘s not the way I saw it going down? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Well, sometimes, I have had to call. I will call Heidi and say, hey, Heidi, when did that happen? And she will say, oh, that was from week three or that‘s from week four. And I‘m like, oh, OK, now I get it. NORVILLE: Now it makes sense to you. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: So, yes, I actually talk to a lot of the contestants. And they call me and say, do you remember when I said that? Oh, that was two weeks ago. So... NORVILLE: One of the scuttlebutts has been your allegation made after you were kicked off last week that another contestant, Ereka, used the N-word. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Well, I want to clarify something, because I‘ve never been one to (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: But you did say that, didn‘t you? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I really—I want to clarify this. I have never waged any irresponsible accusations at anybody without substance. And so, as everyone else is kind of pushing this under the rug, I really want to stress the importance of diversity in corporate America. Everybody is acting like how could this happen on a reality show that is supposed to be reality? (CROSSTALK) MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: In reality, there are African-Americans who go into an office every day that‘s not conducive for their growth or for their working environment. So, for everyone to act like, how could this absolutely happen in a corporate American setting is just so appalling. (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: What I asked you was, did it happen to you? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It happened to me and it‘s most unfortunate. But you know what, Deborah? I‘ve moved on. I‘m moving on to bigger and better things. NORVILLE: But that‘s a serious allegation to make against someone. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: It‘s so serious. And you know what? It was a terrible thing to experienced. (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: But Donald Trump says they looked at every single tape and it‘s not on the tape. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: You know what? I can‘t box with Donald Trump. He‘s a big billionaire. I‘m not going even to go toe-to-toe with him. He can say what he wants. I know in my heart what I experienced. And, like I said, I‘ve moved on. NORVILLE: But it‘s not on tape. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Do you really think that they—you know. (CROSSTALK) NORVILLE: Do you think they would have erased it off the tape, because everything was being recorded, wasn‘t it? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Let me just tell you something. I know what I experienced, and I‘ve moved on. NORVILLE: And the other woman says it didn‘t happen. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Of course she would want to deny something that is as nasty as repulsive as what she did. NORVILLE: If you had it to do all over again, would you have signed up for “The Apprentice”? MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: I‘d sign up 100 times over. I‘m a journalist like you. And I wanted to go into this so I could look at it from a participant observation point, so that I can observe the genre and present perspectives on reality that other people haven‘t seen. NORVILLE: So where is your article going to come? Where we going to see the inside story of “The Apprentice” by Omarosa? (CROSSTALK) MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: The first inside story is going to be in an academic journal, because I want it to have the credibility and the substance that we need, so that we can really, truly examine the genre the way it needs to be examined. NORVILLE: It should be fun reading. MANIGAULT-STALLWORTH: Thank you for having me, Deborah. NORVILLE: Omarosa Stallworth, it‘s good to see you. Good luck to you.
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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 3:24 pm
my only feeling was that if O was really called that word, she would have no way waited all this time to bring it up. she would have raised a ruckus immediately-and rightly so....had it REALLY happened. JMO.
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Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:20 pm
Read what she said closely. She never said it happened on the show. Norville asks her about it, and O goes off on some tangent about corporate America, an dhow no one can believe it would happen, and it was being swept under the rug. Norville comes back and says, "what I asked was, did it happen to you?" O answers, "It happened to me." The way the transript reads, she could have been referring to to it happening to her elsewhere, not on the show. I have yet to see her say in any post-initial accusation, post-DT's refutation of it show that one of her fellow contestants called her the N word. I can see the politician in her coming out... "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is..."
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:28 pm
Okay, two things jump out at me. One, "genre" is Omarosa's new favorite word. Two, Omarosa is now a journalist like Deborah Norville??? I thought she was a receptionist/scheduler for Gore, how does that parlay into being a journalist?
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 4:35 pm
Maybe she decided to become a journalist in between the time she was Gore's receptionist and ran for Mrs. Washington D.C. That girl is a trip.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 6:13 pm
And to think I used to defend this woman. Ugh. First she says she went on the show to get ahead in business. Then she says, "...I wanted to go into this so I could look at it from a participant observation point, so that I can observe the genre and present perspectives on reality that other people haven‘t seen." So which is it? Or is Omarosa just a total opportunist? And what a slap in the face to D. Norville. That woman has worked for decades as a journalist. For Omarosa to compare herself to someone who has busted their butt for years is so freakin' insulting.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 6:23 pm
Deborah Norville is a journalist?! I think her show Inside Edition is more "journalism" than her show on MSNBC and Inside Edition is about a step and a half from Entertainment Tonight. [This isn't to reflect badly on/criticize you, Scorpiomom, but on Norville. Honestly, I think she's a major league hack...but at least she's good enough at it that she keeps the botox folks in business.]
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Auntiemike
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09-17-2001
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 6:34 pm
<And to think I used to defend this woman. Ugh. > You are forgiven Scorpiomom. 
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 6:49 pm
Tishala: Yeah. The word "journalist" is really being stretched these days. I'd say Norville is more a "host" than a "reporter". I think "journalist" encompasses anyone who has anything to do with news reporting. You have to hand to D.N. She's manages to stick it out. Auntiemike: He he. Thanks. 
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Marmosquirm
Member
09-10-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 8:18 pm
I just figured out why O was whining so much about her head. My DH was telling me about this mental illness called malingering. Read this and tell me if that doesn't fit O perfectly! Definition In the context of medicine, malingering is the act of intentionally feigning or exaggerating physical or psychological symptoms for personal gain. Description People may feign physical or psychological illness for any number of reasons. Faked illness can get them out of work, military duty, or criminal prosecution. It can also help them obtain financial compensation through insurance claims, lawsuits, or workers' compensation. Feigned symptoms may also be a way of getting the doctor to prescribe certain drugs. According to the American Psychiatric Association, patients who malinger are different from people who invent symptoms for sympathy (factitious diseases). Patients who malinger clearly have something tangible to gain. People with factitious diseases appear to have a need to play the "sick" role. They may feign illness for attention or sympathy.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 8:19 pm
perfect!
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 8:24 pm
not that i am defending Norville (i DO think Inside Edition is a semi-talboid show) but just so people realize her background IS as a real journalist, here is her bio Norville also anchors the syndicated program “Inside Edition,” the top-rated syndicated newsmagazine on television. Norville joined “Inside Edition” from CBS News, where she anchored “America Tonight” and reported for “48 Hours,” “Street Stories” and “CBS Evening News.” Prior to working at CBS, she hosted the nationally syndicated Deborah Norville Radio Show, heard on more than 200 stations via the ABC Radio network. This is Norville’s second stint at NBC, where she previously served as news anchor and, later, co-host of NBC’s “Today,” positions that followed her tenure as anchor of “NBC News At Sunrise.” Norville began her career while still a college student, as a reporter and later weekend anchor for WAGA-TV in Atlanta. She then joined WMAQ-TV, the NBC-owned station in Chicago, as a reporter and later, main anchor.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2004 - 10:00 pm
No wonder we have so many problems in Washington. I hope everyone who works there doesn't have an attitude like she has. I don't usually speak about a persons personality on a show but she has pushed the art of double speak to far. Do I see a workmans comp claim being prepared?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 8:24 am
Omarosa is a shoe-in to go to work for John Kerry, in my opinion! Plausible deniability (or implausible in her case) - works every time!
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 12:11 pm
How about Omarosa working for Dubya. Her forte seems to be incomprehensible doublepeak, evasion of responsibility, and greed at any cost. Works for me.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 12:49 pm
oh brother not politics. i hate election years!
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 1:09 pm
Think happy thoughts Upstate - you know, like Bush out of the White House! 
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 1:10 pm
lets try to keep politics in the news and views threads
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Starshine40
Member
07-30-2002
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 2:02 pm
Who do you think will be fired this week? Why?
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Zules
Member
08-21-2000
| Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 2:30 pm
Sorry Legal, I was just messin' around. Didn't mean to upset or offend.
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