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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 2:44 pm
In my current "benefit of the doubt" spirit, I'm going to choose to believe her tears were real. I don't think she thought anyone could save her at that point, and that's why she was crying - she really thought she was going to win this and just had the rug ripped out from under her. I really don't see how Kwame could have saved her after they left the boardroom since the Donald was already making up his mind.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 2:46 pm
Did you see how when she turned away from Kwame, there were no tears and she was totally composed. I think she believed that she could persuade Kwame to speak on her behalf with Donald. Remember she said they were told they would have one more chance to appeal to the Donald. Also, remember this woman does not deal with reality. Her perception of events is not necessarily how things are going down. I believe that she truly thought she would have a chance which is why she went bursting into the Boardroom.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 2:53 pm
I thought I did see tears on her face when she turned away from Kwame -- was looking for them, but we saw her for only a fraction of a second so I could be mistaken. I agree with you that her perception is...off, shall we say (particularly after hearing the unedited Today Show interview this morning). However, I can see her reaction being a result of her reality suddenly crashing into her perception. I saw so much of the way she presented herself (like standing at the window with a scarf draped around her neck) as an act or a pose -- presenting herself as an image, not a person -- that the tears actually seemed to be her first real moment. I have trouble believing that someone who thinks she is so superior to everyone ("I was better at 70% than the rest of them were at %100") and so professional would stoop to using tears to get her way. I think that's the one time we saw the Omarosa mask come off. Then again, it could have all been an act. 
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:09 pm
Don't forget, this gal worked in the periphrals of politics. And, aren't they all "actors"? LOL Just wanted to say, I'm soooooo glad she's gone.
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Yuhuru
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:19 pm
I still believe that how she behaved with Kwame during the crying scene had nothing to do with him being AA. If it would have been Troy, she would have done the same thing. When she told Bill she would "eat her brother up" she meant in the boardroom. She was preparing to cut him up verbally in the boardroom. She cried on Kwame's shoulder because he's a nice guy, and he wouldn't reject her..
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:21 pm
The photography board where I hang out a lot called her Omyheadhurtsalotsa and were so glaaad to see her go. Question- I must have been out of it because I have heard reference to Trump favoring NIck and meeting privately with him- when did that happen? Doesn't that give him the edge on winning?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:23 pm
I thought that Trump said that picking Amy was mistake because it gave her a lot of power.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:25 pm
Yuhuru, I can see your point and I have changed my mind you are right re Troy. I still don't think that her tears were real and she probably would have tried the same thing on Troy if he had been project manager.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:26 pm
ROTF at that name!
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:43 pm
Roxip, yep that's what he said here and on another talk show I observed. He felt that,since they always picked Amy, that was saying to him that she is the best and, therefore, giving her the edge. Yuhuru (love your name), I agree with you. She would have done that to any male project manager...but I doubt she would have done it to a female??? meggieprice the reward for winning this time was that the Project Manager got to spend 10 minutes alone with The Donald. The rest of the team got nothing (except the exemption from going to the boardroom.)
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:47 pm
Omarosa is a huge, tall woman and uses her height to intimidate people, especially other women. I was glad to see tough little Heidi stand up to her. I am only 5' tall, and big loud pushy women scare the dickens out of me. Their height, their big booming voices, their aggressiveness, their sense of entitlement, their big long arms holding stuff above your head, even the fact that they take giant steps--all of it is pretty scarey when you are short. I have been bullied and intimidated all my life by tall women and it has gotten worse as I get older. I'm trying to say here that I would have gotten rid of Omarosa, not because of her race, but because of her bullying tactics.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 3:52 pm
I dont think anybody got rid of Omarosa for her race, they got rid of her because she was lazy and had a chip on her shoulder.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 5:00 pm
I can't believe I'm about to defend Omarosa, but here I go: I don't think her tears were an act. I think she had a genuine breakdown. She was living and working in an environment where everyone hated her guts. That would stress out anyone. Compound that with the stress of competition, the desire to be perfect and the rest of the baggage she brought in with her and you have a volcano ready to erupt. Also, come on, none of us can really question how valid/invalid her head injury was. By no means am I a doctor, but my guess is it's not the size of the object that hits one's head but the place on the skull which was hit. I think all the stress and her injury and the realization she could get fired really did get to her. Besides, Omarosa is a calculating woman, not an impulsive one (like Heidi). I don't think faking tears is her MO.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 5:02 pm
I think it is very sad that Omarosa doesn't seem to see herself a little more realistically. She is a very smart, articulate, beautiful woman and would go a lot farther in life if she would just learn to "play well with others." I got so sick of her superiority and looking down her nose at everyone else. It's just not attractive in anyone! Heidi is a little "rough around the edges." I have a very good friend who has been described the same way (likes to drink, has a potty-mouth, reflects her somewhat hard-scrabble upbringing in the way she expresses herself sometimes, especially gramatically), but I love that part of her! It's real! She's not trying to fool anyone about who she is. Heidi has grown on me, especially with her mother's illness. You just can't hate someone whose mommy's sick! DH and I both noticed that Omarosa's behavior was downright passive/aggressive at times. She liked to attack people and then when things got sticky, she'd turn her back on them and walk away. She would never let anyone finish a sentence and refused to listen. I don't know how she got as far as the White House when she doesn't seem able to listen to anyone else's views.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 5:47 pm
"You just can't hate someone whose mommy's sick!" That's another reason why I dislike Heidi. In my, very subjective, opinion I don't think it's honorable for someone who finds out their mother is sick to stick around to finish filming a reality TV show. The spin is how much of a trooper Heidi is for staying in the game. Oh please. If she was in the military, sure. If she was doing research in Antarctica, sure. But a reality TV show? Call me sentimental, but if my mom was diagnosed with cancer, I'd drop everything to be by her side. It wouldn't matter how serious or minor it was or if my mom insisted I stay in the game, it's all about priorities. Being on TV should come second to family--you'd think.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 5:50 pm
on the Apprentice website, it says: http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Apprentice/weekly_recap/week09c.shtml In hushed tones, she told Bill how useless Troy was in the task and repeated how she thinks that Heidi has no class. And she said that if Kwame decides to choose her to face the firing, she would have to "eat my brotha up." Surprisingly, it also says: Then, when the three were called back into the boardroom, Omarosa had to excuse herself to calm down and wipe away her tears. They were never "called back in". I wonder why they didn't tell it like it was - that Omarosa barged into the boardroom and DT said "Omarosa - I didn't call for you yet"
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 5:50 pm
Scorpio you missed the call where Heidi spoke to her mother and her mother specifically told her she wanted her to stay in the game and her mother asked her to stay in the game. Heidi, said to her mother she would drop everything and come home. There was never any question in Heidi's mind about quitting it was her mother who said no. I don't hold it against her at all. That is between her and her mother. I am liking Heidi more and more, probably because I am very like her. Very up front and say it as I see it, the consequences be damned. I also think that Donald likes those characteristics in her and he was giving her a little warning this week about what her downfall would be. He always seems to give people a heads up a week in advance of what will cost them the spot in the game.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:11 pm
Maris: No, no. I saw and remember that conversation Heidi had with her mother. I guess I can't help compare the Heidi situation with Jenna from Survivor. Jenna's mom also wanted her to go, but Jenna, eventually, chose to defy her mom's wishes and leave the game to be with her. I would respect Heidi more for doing the same. I don't have issues with people who are outspoken or forthright. The people I know who are like that, under the surface, have a kind heart and are just as sensitive as they are abrasive. But with Heidi, I often feel she's not such a kind person--she uses her brashness to try and put people in their place. Not only that, in my opinion, Heidi isn't all that intelligent. That kind of gets on my nerves too.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:15 pm
Jenna,s mother died. They havent even decided that her mothers condition warrants surgery. I am not minimizing the mothers situation but I think given the time involved in the game and her mother's insistence and more importantly that Heidi can talk to her every day (unlike Jenna), it makes a whole different story. Plus the fact that Heidi is only a matter of a few hours away by plane, not like the wilds of panama. Heidi's mother hasnt even had surgery. She is in the very early stages of the disease. I think Heidi is very smart and I also think she is a workhorse. She puts everything she has into whatever she is doing and she will work her butt off for her team and I have to say, I would want Heidi on my team.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:24 pm
Heidi's situation is completely different from Jenna's situation in Survivor. Jenna was (theoretically) isolated from all contact with her mom and would have to quit the game in order to go to her. Heidi is able to talk to her mom at any given time and can be by her side in just a few hours if the situation takes a dramatic turn for the worse. I don't know where her mom is, but I'm sure Trump would fly her there if necessary. Also, it looks like she may get to visit her next week and I don't think she will have to quit the game to do that. Everybody's situation and relationship is different, so I think if Heidi and her mom are good with the arrangement, that should be good enough for us. Now, there are many other reasons to not be a fan of Heidi and she's not in my top 4. If she gets fired in the next week or two, it will be fine with me.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:25 pm
...or what Maris said.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:30 pm
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one, guys. 
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:38 pm
<...thinks the 3 of us could vote...>
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 6:40 pm
Scorpiomoon, don't forget that Jenna M.'s mother was sick the first time she went on Survivor. She knew it and had been living with it when she left home and she won the competition
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Pirate
Member
06-20-2002
| Friday, March 05, 2004 - 9:57 pm
I recorded the Today interview and just finished watching it. Makes me even more glad DT fired her on last night's show. What a self-obsorbed piece of work she is. I wanted to throw things at the TV. She makes my skin crawl. You're right Chieko. On Jenna M.'s original Survior show she seemed to be crying all the time because she said she shouldn't be there, she should be home with her mother. Of course she wasn't quite guilt stricken enough on that show to give up the chance for the $1 million. And stay she did and she walked away with the $1 million. Guess everyone has their price.
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