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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 2:14 pm
Sea, I don't think the new roommate will be bedhopping with any of the guys in this cast considering his name is Charlie.
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Blacksheep
Member
10-18-2003
| Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 2:31 pm
damn more sausage in the house!!! Tho perhaps it will level out the bitchy factor with all the females. Heard rumors that the guy may be gay, anyone else heard such gossip? Btw, the rape incident was suppose to happen Nov 15th (I think or a date right around the 15th), so will be interesting if RW production completely avoids it (being that tapes were confiscated by police for evidence). RWer's go to Mexico right after it happens, so will be interesting to see what is shown and what isn't.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, June 02, 2004 - 4:35 pm
Frogi.. how funny.. well ya never know.. guess I got that preview totally wrong.. That's right.. the rape is still to come ..
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Juju
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 8:17 am
Referring to the Jamie thing about not speaking Korean, if you remember, she did speak Korean to her Mother. She meant she couldn't speak fluent Korean. I have a friend from England and some words over there mean different things over here. That is the deal with different languages. A phrase in one language could mean something totally different in our language. I totally agree about Frankie, I am sooooo glad she is gone. That girl wore me out. She needs help bad.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 5:10 am
charlie could still be a female...replacing frankie after all. lol ya never know.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 7:25 am
Nope Upstate, here's his website, it's a guy. Since a female left, you think they would put another female though. http://www.charliedordevich.tk
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 2:16 pm
Well, isn't he quite the cutie? Let's hope his personality matches.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 2:38 pm
Let's see if he's a "nice" guy like Jacq. or if he fits in with the other two with their raging hormones.
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Broxi
Member
03-11-2004
| Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 3:57 pm
Juju I go through the same thing. I was born in Scotland and at times I say something and realize over here it means something else. There are things we say that are harmless but when we say them here people get really upset... and vice versa.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 08, 2004 - 11:18 pm
Did anyone watch this? My DD and I opted for Queer Eye over this. How was the new roomie?
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 4:02 am
They had three people to choose from - the first guy had a name that started with an "M" but I never really caught the name, the second guy was Brad and the third guy was Charlie. The first guy, "M", kind of reminded me of Adam from Real World Paris but maybe a little more attractive and a little smoother. They commented that they thought he was trying a little too hard. Brad was kind of axed from the start because the original Brad could not accept having another person with the same first name in the house (being the blazing pioneer of maturity that he is). The third guy, Charlie, was kind of geeky and quieter and is very into music and was playing guitar a little bit. They selected Charlie, almost it seemed by default because there were people in the house with stronger reactions to the first two who vetoed them.
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:17 am
I think the first guy's name is Bobby. It appeared that Jaquese didn't care much for Bobby, and Brad didn't like Brad (how stupid a reason is that... 'he has the same name'). It doesn't seem like Charlie will fit in with this group, but I guess time will tell. They don't have that much time left in the house do they?
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 6:06 am
Essence, I think they said there was 6 weeks left in the house when they brought in the new guy and there are 3 episodes left.
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 7:02 am
How strange was it that they wouldn't let us hear his guitar playing? Whas was that all about? If it's about licensing, that's ridiculous, and if it's about Charlie, like either he asked them not to play it or they won't play it to further his career or something, well it's very distracting.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 7:17 am
Charlie seems like a nice guy but then again, we didn't see too much of him. Hopefully, he will be a decent guy and we will all be surprised!
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Azlen
Member
08-27-2000
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 11:32 am
Josh Wolk from EW has his own take on things: If you're a fan of old '80s slasher movies, you know that frustrating feeling of seeing a couple of teenage victims-to-be skip off into the forest to make out, when it seems so obvious to you, the viewer, that they are heading straight for a psychotic killer. Can't you people see what you're getting into? RUN, YOU IDIOTS, RUN! If you saw the June 8 ''Real World,'' I think you see where I'm going with this. In order to fill Frankie's eyeshadow-stained mattress, the producers sent three applicants to happily skip into the waterfront house to plead to join the ''Real World'' experience. As a viewer of five months of San Diego pinheadishness, I yelled at my TV to these oblivious applicants, ''Can't you see what you're getting into? RUN, YOU IDIOTS, RUN!'' Frankly, facing a murderer is slightly preferable to residing with the ''Real World'' roomies. At least when you get an axe to the head, your brain abruptly shuts down. Living with the San Diego bunch, your brain just... slowly... and painfully... atrophies. The roommates were giddy about picking someone new. Brad joked, ''What if we got an ape who runs around breaking s---?'' and I cracked a smile when Cameran made the obvious retort, ''We have one, look in the mirror.'' It's not exactly Tracy and Hepburn (frankly, it's not even Jim Belushi and Courtney Thorne-Smith), but in this wit vacuum, you have to take the repartee when you get it. Of course, Cameran's flash of intelligence was quickly snuffed: when the roomies were told they would vote for their new housemate, she yelled, ''Majority rules, we're getting a boy!'' Robin quickly pointed out that there was, in fact, an equal number of boys and girls in the house. Brad could have mocked Cameran for this, but he was busy running around breaking s---. Our first entrant was Bobby, who clearly begins every morning staring at a Lenny Kravitz poster. Then the mirror. Then the poster. Then the mirror, and doesn't leave until he can't tell the two apart. Bobby pulled out every trick in the charm book. First, he attempted to relate geographically: Jamie goes to school where he used to live. A tenuous connection, but to see him loudly react you'd think they discovered they both had half of the same amulet. Then he slam-dunked a basketball to impress the guys, accidentally emasculating them in the process. During their whole interaction, Jacquese had a look on his face like Bobby had shown up with a necklace full of anthrax. Then came Brad 2, who was apparently created from some DNA scraped off Brad 1's beer funnel. Not only did he have the same, semiblank ''point me to the keg'' frat-guy expression, but he was also on the skids with a girlfriend. That said, he did act a tad smarter than Brad 1, like a new, improved version: the Ziploc bag to Brad 1's twist-tie. Unfortunately, though the two Brads seemed like they had the potential to be instant friends, Brad 1 would have none of it: He emphatically did not want somebody with the same name as him. I can see his reservations: If someone yelled ''Don't put that in your mouth, Brad!'' he might think they were talking to someone else, and next thing you know, the house has lost another tennis ball. The final applicant was Charlie, an 18-year-old country singer who was Randy's doppelganger. He quit school -- but when he said he was a musician and plays a lot of guitar shows and Robin then asked ''What do you play?'', if you were to guess who in the room was the dropout, I don't think his name would be the first to cross your lips. Charlie later treated everyone to a sing-along, but his singing and playing was muted when the producers cranked another song over it. I'm guessing that Charlie was covering a country song that MTV did not have the rights to play, and didn't want to pay for. That's the ''Real World'' for ya: We want our housemates to grow and show their creativity... as long as it doesn't cost us nothin'. Charlie seemed quiet and thoughtful, which was the exact reason I knew he was doomed to get chosen. I put my head in my hands when I saw him enter the house with his belongings: When he bumped fists with Brad, I imagined him being slashed by Freddy Krueger's fingerblades. I could have handled them picking Bobby or Brad 2. Those two seemed like they practiced being on a reality-TV show in their basements: It would have been like sending ''Halloween'''s Michael Myers to live with ''Friday the 13th'''s Jason. But Charlie is just fresh meat.
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:04 pm
So Josh noticed the absurdity of muting the guitar playing, as well. Very funny!
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:15 pm
I am so in love with Josh. He makes watching the Real World a worthwhile thing. I just would love to have him over and listen to him just for a day.
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Azlen
Member
08-27-2000
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 12:49 pm
Josh's reviews of the Vegas season were hysterical. I subscribed to EW just so I would have access to his reviews.
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Blacksheep
Member
10-18-2003
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 1:48 pm
What's with the double standards? Maybe some of the guys around here can fill me in, because this is something that irritates me to no end. Lets go back a little to when Brad and his girl Andrea decided to 'take some space' - this came from Bradley after a few days (perhaps the first week) he was in S.D. In the meantime, he's kissed Frankie (he did kiss back correct?) and well-documented Cameron. So last night he finds out Andrea has kissed another boy, and all hell breaks loose in Bradley's little Neanderthal brain and doesn't like the fact that another man is feelin up HIS woman. Maybe it'd be different if they had sex, but as the story was told it wasn't like that, so why is Brad so upset for doing the same thing he's doing. (The excuse of being away from home doesn't float btw) Any clarity on this topic from some guys?
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 3:03 pm
I think they picked the young man because he was more quiet and laid back than the other two, and this would be a quality I would be looking for if I were in their shoes. They need someone in the house that can play guitar or have other talents, something more than lifting a bottle to their lips. His age sure didn't stop them from plying him with liquor. Of couse, 18 is legal in some places. I didn't like the first one (Bobby) mainly because Jac didn't instantly like him. Jac seems to be a good judge of character. Brad (the 2nd one) seemed to be very nice and would probably have been a good choice too.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 5:03 pm
I'm pretty sure 18 isn't legal in California. I'm pretty sure there's hardly any state that is still legal at 18. The federal government holds back highway funding or something if they defy the 21 rule. Still, as long as the drinking is within the home, the police probably won't do anything about it...
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 6:00 pm
Cameron is under age for drinking (don't remember if Jamie is or not). It shouldn't really matter that much. I don't see him being a "lush" like Randy, Robin, & Brad. Cam., Jamie, & Jacq. seem to only drink in moderation so I see Charlie more fitting in with them.
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Meemo
Member
08-22-2002
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 7:56 am
here is an interview with Frankie, i won't post the link because you have to login with an account to view it Kansas City Star Posted on Tue, Jun. 01, 2004 In Frankie's words KC's memorable ‘Real Worlder' tells what happened before, during and after the show By TIM ENGLE The Kansas City Star At times over the last five months, Frankie Abernathy has made MTV's “The Real World” a little too real. In the very first episode she gets drunk and, despite having a boyfriend, snuggles up to housemate Brad in the hot tub. She suffers from cystic fibrosis, a lung disease, but there she is smoking a cigarette. When she drops a kitchen knife coming out of the bathroom, we learn she's a “cutter” — she deals with emotional pain by creating physical pain. The episode includes Frankie's visit to a therapist. In a wrenching “confessional” moment, she talks about how much she hates herself. And on last week's show, amid a visit from her family and lots of tears, the 22-year-old looked for all “The Real World” like a woman on the verge of a nervous breakdown. She said she just wanted to come home, to Kansas City. On tonight's episode, Frankie just might get her wish. Fans of MTV's highest-rated series sometimes forget that the “characters” are real people. But it's not hard to see why Frankie, who grew up in Blue Springs, was cast as one of the “seven strangers” in San Diego: Besides being cute, smart and outspoken, she has a look that's all her own (including lots of piercings). She and the boyfriend, tattoo artist Dave Duly, 23, met in an adult video store. For two years she worked at a Priscilla's, the adult novelty chain. And there's that weird phobia of hers: She suffers anxiety attacks when she's around ships — you know, like the Love Boat. (Naturally, the roomies' job was working on a yacht.) So, yeah, Frankie's a real person, but also a character — one of “The Real World's” most memorable ever. She also inspires lots of questions among fans: Did she really dislike her MTV roommates? How's her health? Is she still with Dave? And what's next? Here's the scoop on all that and more, in Frankie's own words, with occasional side comments from others. ‘I wasn't going anywhere with my life' Frankie: There was an open call (last spring) at a hotel in Westport for “Starting Over,” which is a daytime show for women who just want to get their lives rolling. I had just finished (massage) school. It was very strange, because there were hundreds of women all in this big room. You're just sitting there and talking and comparing stories, and they take these women in, in groups of 10, to sit with the producer. You tell your story: why do you want to start over. I was the ninth person to talk. By the time they got to me, I was like, all right, my life hasn't been peachy, but I'm not gonna sit here and tell everybody my story about how awful things are. Because right now, I feel like I'm lucky to even be here. So what I said was: Remember my name, because whether you put me out there (or not), it doesn't matter, you'll hear it tomorrow. And then everybody clapped, and there were these 40-year-old women coming up to me and telling me how strong I was. I was just thinking, “This is really weird — I need to go!” And I made it to finals. I had to do more interviews. Then (producers) Bunim-Murray called me three weeks after my final interview and said, “Would you like to be on ‘The Real World' instead?” And I was just like, “You want me to be on what? You must have me confused with someone because I'm really boring and I am not an MTV-type person.” And they said, “No, we really like you.” So I said OK. Sasha Alpert, VP for casting, Bunim-Murray Productions: Frankie is a very emotionally available and expressive woman, and she has a very specific outlook on the world. She has a great sense of personal style, and that really translates to the TV screen. I thought she was someone our viewers would like. ‘I never watched it' Frankie: When they called me and told me I'd made it, Kevin Lee, the producer, said, “If I tell you that you made it, will you promise me that you won't come out here and change who you are?” And I said, “Yeah, I mean, of course.” And he was like, “Because a lot of times people come out here and they see the cameras and they try to put on a show. And we don't want that.” And then he said, “And I don't want you to think that we picked you because you're gonna be the or anything like that.” Those were his exact words. So maybe they did pick me to be the . I don't know. “Scoops,” friend and morning-show producer for 96.5 FM, the Buzz: Of course they were gonna dramatize her life. Yes, Frankie is very dramatic in real life. She's just very passionate, and MTV got the drama they wanted. It really messed with her head, though. She's dealing with a lot anyway, like with her sickness. When she realized what she'd gotten herself into, she left. It wasn't her. Abbie Hunter, Frankie's mom: She definitely has severe emotional problems, there's no doubt about it. But she can be a very fun, sane, rational person a lot of the time, and they just never showed that part of her at all. Any of it. ‘Self-destructive' Frankie: The show is all real, and it's very much who I am, but at the same time MTV creates a character out of what I've given them. Now you would never imagine that I was a strong woman who didn't want people to look at her handicaps. When people start paying attention to the fact that I have CF (cystic fibrosis), it makes me uncomfortable. And I don't want people to focus on the fact that I'm afraid of boats and they freak me out. I've been really, really open with my parents my entire life. Really open. They know pretty much everything. And now they know everything. Because I told them about everything they were gonna see on the show that they're not gonna like. The biggest one was smoking. Nobody knew. Nobody knew. I quit (smoking). I'm done. I quit when I got home. I know it's not a good idea. But I, by nature, am incredibly self-destructive. Perry Hunter, her stepfather: I can't possibly put myself in her place. But she is so smart. So beautiful. And she has so much potential. Life is just too short to be so sad/mad all the time. Abbie, her mom: She's had a ton of love her whole life. I really don't know why she is so sad and angry. ‘What was I thinking?' Frankie: Nothing happened (with Brad in the hot tub). It was just me being stupid and just totally wasted, completely out of my element. We'd been abandoned for two weeks with no outside contact (before filming, they were put in separate hotels). You could call people, so I'd been talking to Dave, missed him like crazy already, got to the house and saw somebody that reminded me of somebody I had a connection with (in Kansas City) at one time. I'm sure that if two girls had been sitting by me that night in the hot tub, I would have tried to hit on a girl instead. I don't remember it to this day, but I've seen it, and it makes me sick to watch it. I can't explain the magnitude of what is going on in your head when you're put in that position. Here are all these cameras — they're watching you. Now live here. And I don't know these people. As much as you try to get used to it, it's hard. It's really crazy. I hated it. A lot. Alpert, the casting exec: After every episode of “The Real World” airs, the online message boards light up with comments. Fans have a lot to say about Frankie. She's such a relatable character; viewers feel like they know her. They wonder what makes her tick. ‘I'm not a poster child' Frankie: CF is a potentially fatal lung disease, but it also affects your pancreas. You don't produce the right enzymes to soak up nutrients in food. I was diagnosed when I was 3. Lots of people are talking about how I look so unfit and how I have a big stomach and little arms. That's due to CF. CF will make you look really malnourished because your pancreas doesn't work right. A ton of people have said that I should've gone out there and represented the population of people that have this disease better, which is ridiculous to me. I went out there and I was who I am. That's it. I just went out there and lived my life. Honestly, I smoked more out there than I think I've ever smoked in my life, just because you get so stressed. And everybody in that house smoked. Well, Jamie and Jacquese really didn't. CF doesn't play a role in my life whatsoever. I don't pay attention to the fact that I have it. Which some people say is stupid and idiotic and some people say is the best way I could possibly live my life. (In terms of life expectancy) I'm gonna make the best out of what I've got. If I just sat here and played the weak person and took these medicines and relied on them and said, “Oh, I can't go out because I'm just too sick,” then I am not having a quality life. I am just prolonging my misery. So I go out and I live it up and have a good time. If that means my life is gonna be shorter, then at least what I had was freakin' amazing. Abbie, her mom: When she was diagnosed she had a 50 percent chance of living to 20. Back in the day when I still had some kind of control over her, we'd say, “Yes, you can go out if you do your breathing treatment.” We used to make her take her pills. I would love for her to do her medicines and take active, precautionary steps to help her be healthier. ‘On-again, off-again' Frankie: Both (Dave and I) listen to a lot of punk music, but we both love old blues and we both love rockabilly stuff, and we're taking swing dance lessons. We have a ton in common. People write me e-mails, fan e-mails: “Omigod, your boyfriend is so cute, you guys are so perfect, omigod omigod he's so cute!” It's like — I know, I know. It's been very, very rocky (lately). He was with another girl for a little while. I stuck around because I know that I want him, and I had my time to figure out that he is who I wanted. So I gave him time to figure out that I'm who he wanted. So we got back together and everything's going pretty good. Abbie, her mom: She kinda obsesses right now about Dave. In some ways it's sad for Dave because he gets the brunt of a lot of her neediness, her anger, etc. I don't know if they're right for each other or not, and I don't know whose fault it is. It's nobody's fault. ‘It's not about suicide' Frankie: (Cutting is) an addiction, like anything else is. The way I'm dealing with it, which isn't right for everybody, is almost like I have a sponsor. So every time I feel like I need to cut myself, I talk to my sponsor. Lucky for me, my sponsor is a cutter, so this person knows exactly what I'm feeling. There's something switched in my brain. When I have a problem, I have to think extra hard about it because if I don't think about what I'm gonna do, then I act irrationally. I start acting before I start thinking. There are times when I get really emotional and I want to (cut), but you put the knife down, you take a deep breath and you call your person. When people come up to me and say, “I really related to you,” I know why. I think I've brought attention to it as a problem. Kevin Lee, co-executive producer, “Real World”: The fact that Frankie is a cutter did come up during the interview process, but it was as something from years ago, rather than a current issue. Perry, her stepfather: Of course the cutting was pretty tough to watch. Made me feel like a dumb parent. She'd been doing that since she was 15 and I didn't know it. Duh. I believed her when she said her cat kept scratching her. ‘Good friends now' Frankie: (The cast) all went to L.A. and saw each other (at a seminar on how to give speeches to college students). And I worked things out with Robin. We're all over (the fighting) now. We've all seen our shining moments and our not-so-shining moments (on TV). We realize we were all victimized at certain times. I know there are times when Robin was like, “Oh, man, that was not how things happened.” For a long time I really regretted doing the show. I just feel like I really screwed up a lot of people's lives by going. My sister (Mamie) has to hear about it at school all the time. She's like “Frankie's Sister” now, and that's gotta be hard. Perry, her stepfather: I think it's been the hardest on Mamie (who's 12). She really is the one who is always on Frankie's side. She's her biggest means of mental support. So I think it's tough to be the older sister, mentally, when you are really the younger sister, physically. ‘Carrying a message' Frankie: It sucks sometimes when people think they know me and they hate me. On the other hand, there are tons of 13-year-old girls out there now who tell me, “I wanna be like you. People don't like me at my school. They're the preppy girls and I hate them.” I feel like I'm really carrying a message to them, that they're OK the way they are. They don't have to change. They're beautiful for being themselves. I think I have delivered a really valuable message to a lot of people in today's youth, and that's the only way that I feel even remotely like a celebrity. And it's the part I like the most. P.S. Frankie spent three weeks in a hospital earlier this year recovering from what may have been pneumonia. The median life expectancy for people with cystic fibrosis is about 32 years. Frankie is looking for a job. She doesn't know yet if she'll be in demand on the college lecture circuit. She reunited with the cast at the end of filming in December to do promo spots and again in April. She does plan to take part in an “RWSD” reunion show; it will be taped later this month in New York. Her hair is no longer pinkish-red. It's a combo of black, blue, purple, pink and teal. She did it herself: “Nobody's touching my color.” This, the 14th season of “Real World,” is on track to become the most-watched season of the show. To reach Tim Engle, features writer, call (816) 234-4779 or send e-mail to tengle@kcstar.com. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The show “The Real World” airs at 9 tonight on MTV. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 5 things you didn't know about the ‘World' 1. Frankie had a second job, at a store called Plasticland, which sells high-end funky clothes. It's never been mentioned. 2. “Real World” engages in creative editing. Last week's episode, for example, implied that Frankie's family and Jamie's mother were visiting at the same time. Nope. 3. Frankie's mom, Abbie, actually visited twice, but the first visit wasn't shown. But one scene did show Cameran eating some of the lasagna Abbie made for the roomies. 4. Frankie had planned to come home for Thanksgiving and bring a camera crew. But she ended up leaving on Halloween. 5. Producers replaced her with a guy named Charlie, who's expected to appear in only four episodes. Look for him next week. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frankie on her San Diego housemates • We all thought that Jacquese was really quiet and he was gonna disappear (on the show). He turned out to be everybody's older brother and confidante and the guy who kept things rolling. If things started to get down, he would bring 'em back up again. Jacquese is one of the most amazing people I've ever met. • Brad is hilarious. He's one of those guys that, at first, his stupidity toward things was irritating. But then eventually it's like, “Ahhhh, it's cute!” When I first met him, I was like, he's a frat-boy meathead and that's it. And then I found out he's much more than that. Brad's a fun-loving guy, goofy and fun to hang out with. • Robin had gotten (her breast implants) a month, two months prior to being on the show, so they hadn't settled by the time she got there. By the time we left, they had gotten to a more natural place. I think she grew a lot through the (“Real World”) process. I think she overcame a lot of things and I think she's a better person because of the obstacles she's overcome. She and I didn't get along very well, but she's a kindhearted person and a lot of people love her. • Jamie and I became really, really good friends while I was out there. Jamie and I had long conversations about life and family and why things are the way they are. She's the kind of person you'd want to hang out with on a Sunday and see a movie with and share your opinions. She's a very, very intelligent girl. And I think the most gorgeous girl I've ever met in my life. I think MTV's gonna put her in the shadows as much as they can just because she didn't cause problems. • Randy is a cool guy, smart, very artistic. He has great ideas about clothing and fashion design, which just baffles my mind because he's not gay. He's a cool, cool person, has a lot of really good ideas, he's a big history buff and likes clubs, but I don't think I could ever really hang out with him for very long. • Cameran is one of the sweetest girls I've ever met; I love her to death. I feel like she's my adopted little sister. She is hilarious. When I met her, I was like, this girl's gonna be the biggest I've ever met, ever. But she taught me a huge lesson about girls and how the ones you think are gonna back-stab you turn out to be the ones that don't. From what I understand, Cameran pulled some shady stuff on me after I left, but I don't hold it against her. She's young. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Outta there! If (wink-wink) Frankie Abernathy left "The Real World" before filming finished, she wouldn't be the first. According to our calculations, since Season 1 in 1992, three others have exited the MTV fishbowl voluntarily: Irene in L.A. to get married; Irene in Seattle because of health problems; and Justin in Hawaii, who said ill relatives needed him. Two "Real Worlders" have been kicked out by their housemates: David in L.A. and, most famously, Puck in San Francisco.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, June 10, 2004 - 8:17 am
Wow....I like how Dave was going out with another girl but they are trying to work that out now. Those two just need to separate and stay apart. Why is this girl so needy? She talks like she has it all together but she really doesn't. Why else would she want to go on Starting Over? Her mom says that she had so much love all her life and yet she's looking for it. A lot could be because of her disease but there is something missing in this girl. We all know that the miracle of these shows is in the editing. They want to make the most watchable show they can so they cut and paste these kids' lives together wherever they see a good story. I hope that Frankie finds what she's looking for. I hope all of them do really.
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