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Ramsfan
Member
01-27-2004
| Monday, May 17, 2004 - 7:20 pm
I am disgusted by the entire RR team (except maybe for Kendall). They were so mean to Kendall. I couldn't believe Holly (who I used to like)said that Kendall could atone by taking Timmy's place. Good grief! I don't think much of Veronica after hearing her say four thousand times that "I don't want Katie on MY team" Good heavens she doesn't own it does she?
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:03 pm
I CANNOT BELIEVE DAVID LOST TO KATIE LAST NIGHT!!! Katie is this season's Sara it seems, she just can't lose. David should've had this, he's bigger, should've had much more stamina, oh well, he pretty much sucked this season, I like him, but dude, he didn't do much. Another cat fight, glad that Mike calmed Katie down, now that would be a good fight, maybe after the show Katie and Veronica could duke it out, think it could be very close, both tough very PO'd girls, although I think Katie might hate Veronica more, Veronica is just used to being this way, remember all the problems she had in Semester At Sea... obviously she rubs lots of people the wrong way. Funny how Coral and Veronica actually seem to be good friends. So it looks like it's the same problem as the Gauntlet, to many people on RR's and not enough on RW, as Coral said, hopefully there won't be any spiders around, lol.
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Meemo
Member
08-22-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 2:58 pm
here's an update posted at RW/RR blog: What a tangled love web the RW/RR crowd weaves! Here's the low down on who is hooking up, who hooked up, and who broke up. Well you all know that Dave and Cara (RR South Pacific) are still together and apparently Trishelle (RW Las Vegas) and Adam (RR Quest) are still going strong. Something you might not know is that Abram (South Pacific) and Coral (RW New York) are an item. Robin (RW San Diego) and Blair (RR 10) have apparently hooked up but it seems it was just a one-time deal. As for the break ups, Lori (RW New York) and Kyle (RW Chicago) are no longer together. Mallory and Ace (Paris) are done. Last but not least, whatever happened with Cameron and Brad while taping the San Diego season is not happening now according to Cameron. coral and abram! now that's interesting! i guess her and veronica do have something in common 
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Azlen
Member
08-27-2000
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:06 pm
Is it just me or do Katie and Veronica not like each other?
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:19 pm
I think it's just you.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:50 pm
regarding Coral & Abram: He must have really liked that "special" sauce she put on his sandwich a few episodes ago hee...hee..
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:26 pm
for the break ups, Lori (RW New York) and Kyle (RW Chicago) are no longer together. _________ Meemo: Lori has never "directly" discussed her relationship with Kyle in her journal (and good for her). However, she has "indirectly" discussed "relationships" lately. She seems to be slowly discussing her upset over the break-up in her journals (without discussing it). You need to check out her last 4-5 journals. She mentions the break-up (IMO) in 2 of her last 4-5 journals (sorry, forget which dates). you can read her disgust here: www.everythinglori.com
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:35 pm
Sorry this is so long....just didn't want to take it out of context. from Lori's 4/5 journal at above link: I think when we're young, which I still am, we believe (and I still do) that everything in life just sort of works out on its own. I call this the meant-to-be syndrome. That's when we figure that every choice we make throughout the course of our lives has a pink ribbon of fate wrapped around it, and we feel like we can remove any blame off of ourselves because how things end up were apparently how they were supposed to end up. I hate that shit. I think it's all bullshit. It's a cop-out. It's naivety. It's our own inability to accept that fact that the course of our actions are governed by own free will, so when things turn out bad, it's our own fault. We are all willing to accept the goods of our lives being our own doing, but not the bads. Then there are the people who blame everything on themselves, even things that really weren't in their control, and that's going to the other extreme, which I don't think is right either, but I don't feel like going into that side of it today. Let's continue to explore the other, shall we? I think I've discussed this before in relation to our love lives. I cannot stand when people look at their relationships and think, "If it's meant to be, it'll just happen." God, does that piss me off. What are you talking about? If it's meant to be?!? As in, I'll just cheat on you, and if my tongue ends up in someone else's mouth, obviously, it wasn't meant to be? Some people actually think that, maybe not so much in those vivid terms, but almost. Some people don't know how to take responsibility for their own actions. Some people don't realize that we MAKE our lives, they don't just happen to us. Stop blaming these invisible external forces of the cosmic universe on your mistakes. They are YOURS. You MADE them. Own up to it, and fix it. I watched Magnolia recently. Brilliant movie that had me thinking so much I haven't really even had the chance to process it. I think it'll be one of those flicks that swirl around in my mind leaving me two years down the line still drawing conclusions on its meaning. That's like Into the Woods for me. I still can't get over the meaning of that play. It amazes me continuously. Anyway, one point that really hammered home for me was the issue of regret. So many people dying with their hearts filled with regret and sorrow, and often we look at this as just a movie because we're not at the end of our lives, and because we're still expecting things to just "work out." We don't know what it's like to be at the tail end of an existence and look back on how we used that little time allotted to us and feel unfulfilled with what we remember. It happens all the time, and we need to keep remembering that every day and every minute counts. We shouldn't waste it making poor decisions with bad intensions and blame it on our youth or our immaturity. Mistakes are important to make, but a mistake is not something you make intentionally. It's not doing something you KNOW you shouldn't and then throwing it out there as a "mistake" as if it were out of your control. It's not the same as a misspelling. Most mistakes are not even mistakes - they are just bad decisions that we KNEW we were making. Dictionary.com defines mistake as: "An error or fault resulting from defective judgment, deficient knowledge, or carelessness." I don't think a lot of things we do wrong are really mistakes as we claim them to be. Our judgement is not defective - we know it's wrong, our knowledge is not deficient. I don't want to look back at my life and know I did things that hurt other people, which ultimately left me hurting myself. Sometimes we feel like accomplishments are impossible. We get stuck in a rut, and we don't actually do anything to make things better. We feel like it's too late, or that we already put in too much time. It's nice to know we still have the ability to change the course of our lives and change them for the better. It's exhilirating when you make a decision that you know is right. One that you don't regret. One where your soul is filled with a sense of refreshment. Like a cool glass of water running down your throat when you were feeling so dusty and dry, and your body was screaming for just a taste, and it KNEW as soon as you gave it that it was what you really wanted. Knowing what you want and going after it, man it makes your heart pound, doesn't it? It makes your skin tingle. Something in the back of your mind is screaming "YES, THAT'S what I needed to do!" and you feel like patting yourself on the back because you finally made the decision your heart had been screaming at you to make while you suppressed the sounds and pleas with a cheap quilt of fabricated reason. Damn, that sounds dramatic, but if you've been there, you KNOW what I'm talking about. What an exhilirating moment when you take control of your life and do something to make it better. How lucky we are to live a world where we have those options, even when it's so hard to see them or recognize them. We CAN do something about our problems, but it's about seeing past that spot that blinds us, according to Powder. It's about facing the one thing that keeps us from progressing in this universe - fear, as they discuss in Defending Your Life. (See both those movies, by the way.) This is my life. And I can do with it what I want. That is profound. Now, sometimes we don't know if the decisions we are making are right or not. That's terrifying. It's one thing when you make a decision you KNOW you have to make, but it's another when you feel like you're standing at the crossroads, and you're trying to listen to your heart, trying to rely on your intuition, but you cannot recognize which voices in your head are which. You don't know if how you feel is based off of fear or based off of reason or based off of intuition. You genuinely can't tell right from wrong in that particular incidence, and you are absolutely petrified that you might make the wrong choice. God, is that scary. Life isn't always so obvious - so often are we faced with these life-altering dilemmas, and there is no one there offering the best conclusion. Crossroads are a . I don't know what to say about these. There is a reasonable amount of doubt to everything we do, sometimes that doubt holds you back, and sometimes it's an instrument of survival. When do we know which role it plays? I don't know. In fact, I'm sort of bummed I even brought this part up because I wish I had some sort of positive statement to make on it. I don't. Some say it's a quarter-life-crisis, but recently I feel like every decision I make every damn day is going to alter the rest of my life. I can't even decide on a flavor coffee at Ralph's without fearing that maybe Hazelnut will please me more than French Vanilla. I panic that everyday is like a giant building block, and if I don't use that day correctly and effectively, I'll end up with a mansion on a faulty foundation, and the whole goddamn thing may come crumbling down on me right after I thought I made a perfect home. Now, that's a lot of pressure. Okay, now I'm tired again. I need to relax my brain for a bit. I'll talk to you all soon. Mmmm...it's nice to be back. PreviousDaily | DailyIndex | NextDaily Copyright © 2002 everythinglori.com ---------------- ----- the above is from her April 4 journal.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 10:43 pm
and here is Lori's most recent journal: Today'sDaily FridayMay 14, 2004 It's interesting what kind of boxes show up on your screen when you drop something on your keyboard. Ever discover shit like that? Cool computer tricks by accident? Don't you hate when people say "on accident"? Would ever anyone say "by purpose"? So, my head hurts. Everything hurts. I'm thinking more about LA, and I'm starting to question it again. I've started to wonder if there really is a demon spirit of Hollywood that takes over good, clean people and makes them monsters. You know what? When I started writing this, I didn't even think about how that pertains to Mulholland Drive, but now that I think about it, it kind of does. (Careful reading this if you haven't seen it and plan to.) Regardless of she being in a dream/fantasy state when she arrived in LA with such bright-eyed naivety, I still think when she showed up, she was a better person. She was definitely filled with high hopes, and she came from a smaller, more real world (no pun) where I think she may have had better morals. I think this town can really rid people of their morals, make them into something they're not. Leave them abandoning what they once considered sacred because of their newfound celebrity. I'm sure having fans will do that to you. Having people worship you like a god (or golden calf) all because you've become "visible." I think a solid person filled with love and goodness and high hopes can become LA-ified. First their clothes, then their body. How could the mind not follow? How could the ego not be attached? Somehow, those who were once clean get dirty. Wait, I'm sorry. I mean Dirrty. Let's look at examples of ladies - Christina Aguilera. Genie in the Bottle. Cute ass girl. Gorgeous voice. Only an album or two later, she's turned orange, she has dreadlocks, and she talks like some stereotypical ghetto chick. Not to mention the fact that she lost half her clothes. It was an image-change, something to set her apart, but according to her, it's the "real" her. The irony. It's what she really became, sure, but not how she was. And yes, people change, but doesn't LA (which I'm making synonymous with Fame or the quest for it) MAKE people something else? Change them for the worse? Hey, I still love and listen to her, but I'm just trying to understand this a little better. What about Kelly Clarkson? Now, you all KNOW how I feel about her. I couldn't have been farther up her ass, but do you remember during World Idol when they had clips of her commenting after everyone's performance from some room where she was watching them all on a little TV? She was talking differently. She was no longer small town sweet chick with the big voice. She was saying shit like, "Damn! He good. He real good. He may win 'dis thang." (Slight exaggeration on my part, but there WAS a difference, and I was not the only one to notice.) What about others? Thing is, I don't know if they realize the change. I think when you change, you never notice. Kind of like working out everyday and looking into the mirror for a six-pack to appear (like I was saying yesterday). Maybe one day, you'll look back at who you were and how you looked, you'll acknowledge a difference, but you'll never understand HOW different you've become. What you've left behind. Who you left behind. I think we all try to become better people as we grow up and move on, but does it always work out that way? Do we sometimes become something different - maybe something people are TELLING you is better simply because of your fame, your face, or because they're downright HIRED to turn you into everyone else? "...all you have to change is everything you are" -Pink. It's only the people who grew, but maybe didn't change that can see the difference, and aren't we almost always disappointed? That was one thing I was determined to never happen to me. I was warned of the demon of Hollywood and what it might do to me. My sister was afraid I'd stop eating in attempt to look like a bikini model. She couldn't have been more wrong, but I can see now why she thought that way. It's a sad thing when people are so desperate to become something bigger that they let go of how much bigger they really were, when they were themselves. Or maybe those people are sad and pathetic to get so wrapped up in a lifestyle that they go around just preaching who they are never realizing that they no longer are that person at all. Not even close. And that's what really gets me. People who are so delusional that they can't even see that they're liars and hypocrites. It's the saddest part of all. I won't give more examples. Some are just so obvious that I hope by reading this, they'll know inside it counts as them. Now, who am I to judge? I don't have too much going on for myself, so maybe it's wrong for me to say a thing about anyone. It's so easy to just say I'm jealous. Like I said yesterday, who couldn't be jealous of people doing well for themselves financially in a business they dreamed to be in unless you're doing something you're proud of yourself? Maybe when I find something to do that I'm proud of, I won't even care anymore about other people's business. I find that hard to believe though. I don't know if I'll ever stop observing the obvious and not think it's horrendous and sad. I don't know what to say. I'm disgusted. Not with Kelly Clarkson, not with Christina. With the concept mostly. And you can't help but wonder how strong YOU are then in comparison. What's to say what would become of me if certain temptations were thrown in my face. If life became some strange illusion where others cared more for me than deserved - without even knowing me at all. Who knows if we'd get through those first gates on the way to the Southern Oracle unless we walked through them? Maybe we'd get zapped as well. I'm sure those eyes would at least start to open. But I don't plan on walking through them. I don't have any plans to tempt myself with such bullshit, such a road that could potentially destroy my worth, the little bit of conservatism I may have. I can see why East Coasters can't help but love each other so much once we're over here in the sunshine where beauty is quite literally only skin deep. We cling to each other because we see some sort of self-worth that is so rare. Now, yesterday, I said pretty much the opposite - why get upset over superficiality? Why not look at it and laugh? Well, sometimes it IS personal, and there isn't all that much to laugh about. PreviousDaily Copyright © 2002 everythinglori.com. All rights reserved. ---------------------------------------------------------- if you read the journals between what may have been her break-up with Kyle and now, you can see how she seems to be "brewing". i feel sorry for her, in some ways. from reading her journals, it seems she moved to los angeles because of kyle (she had to find a job and apartment before leaving boston...so my guess is Kyle is what got her to move). anyway, rumor has it kyle "cheated" on her from someone from "days of our lives" . the girl had a steady boyfriend, but then broke up with him. so that's the trash i offer tonight. :>). true or not! ---------- eta: this paragraph taken from above (for those who don't care to read it all...i don't blame you): won't give more examples. Some are just so obvious that I hope by reading this, they'll know inside it counts as them. } i think she is talking to kyle here. --------
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Guinevere
Member
03-15-2001
| Wednesday, May 19, 2004 - 11:54 am
Thanks for posting, Abby. I had heard about the breakup, but hadn't checked Lori's journal in a while. I like Lori, a lot, but she is quite the navel-gazer, isn't she? I could have told her (MONTHS ago), just from watching him on RW Chicago, that Kyle was not a good person. I can't see blaming Hollywood, or fame, or whatever, because IMO he was always a jerk. Lori and Kendall should maybe become lesbians and get together (wouldn't they make the cutest couple?). I don't think either has much of a spine or self-esteem and it manifests itself in bad relationship choices. They are both sweet girls who deserve better. It seems that Lori's first post, about choice v. fate and "mistakes" is about Kyle not taking responsibility for cheating. But she also should take responsibility herself for giving her life over to a man who didn't treat her well (I am assuming a lot, based on what I "know" about Kyle and Lori's respective personalities. This may be unfair, but I bet I'm right).
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 4:44 pm
So....let's debate: Which team do you want to win the finale, which team do you expect will win, and why.... want to win - RR, they played an overall better game, their team weak link only stepped up when her own a$$ was on the line & now it looks like she wants to blow the win for them. will win - RW, 4 good competitors (yes-Coral was pretty competitive in the team challenges & for sure wasn't their weakest link), RR has 8 folks and one of them is KATIE.
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Blacksheep
Member
10-18-2003
| Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 7:19 pm
want to win - RR, best team competitors even though there has been some shady business going on to throw comps - they lose a couple points with me for that, but still better than RW will win - RR, despite having double the numbers and Katie hating her team she won't blow it, it's all about the greenback; RW will build a lead at the beginning with fewer players but will not be able to figure out the puzzle and lose it at the end. We know how good 'The Miz' is at those kinda things.
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Jesuschick98
Member
05-11-2004
| Thursday, May 20, 2004 - 8:20 pm
I don't think I remember Adam from the Quest. What does he look like? Does anyone know??
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Blacksheep
Member
10-18-2003
| Friday, May 21, 2004 - 7:59 am
Adam was the jerk...dark brunette & had the little oral affair with Ellen (asian girl) who he treated like sh!t, also had some condition that he had to take meds for..was way too hyper normally - though it was funny for viewing, he sorta looked like a 5 yr old who'd never been disciplined. Also he was the self proclaimed leader of the group, though I thought Steven was alot more level headed - just seemed to be portrayed as quiet/reserved - the opposite of Adam. He's was on the last Gauntlet Challenge & stayed til the end ... bulked up some from RR Quest, had a butt load of facial hair and still his arrogant misogynist self.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Friday, May 21, 2004 - 8:16 am
Adam also happened to be in Eco-Challenge last year, he was on the Reality team with Ethan and a few others... he gained points in my book for even attempting that crazy challenge! I'm still reeling from Coral and Abram, I couldn't think of two people I'd imagine being together less, lol. Lori is young and needs to get over it, Guinever, ITA with what you said...
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Ohiomobprincess
Member
11-07-2003
| Friday, May 21, 2004 - 9:15 am
want to win- RW-overall played a more honest game will win- RR-strong members left on the team, will overcome having Katie
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Friday, May 21, 2004 - 11:15 am
I'd like to see RW win also, mostly because I like Syrus, CT and Mike, oh and Coral too, lol. RR will probably win though, they seem to always win...
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 4:45 pm
That Adam guy menteioned earlier was also on the Gauntlet & was the biggest jerk towards Sarah. I was so glad to not see his a$$ back for the Inferno. I think everyone around for the final mission deserve to be there (yes, even Katie - she won 2 extreme Infernos against RW players that weren't weak links). Inferno players I've enjoyed watching the most: RR - enjoyed watching everyone on this team but my fav female is Veronica & my fav male is Timmy. RW - Coral (LOVE her drama queen out there attitude). CT (BEST competitor on the RW team - & what a hunk).
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 5:19 pm
Another thought that might make the next RW/RR challenge season more interesting would be if whoever goes into the gauntlet/inferno type of challenge for their team & wins also wins $10g for their team bank. Would they want to loose people (RW going into the last final challenges with only 4 people) or would they want to make their banks bigger. We would prob. see some of the better competitors stepping up (to prove themselves) early on. I also think that each team going into the final challenge should get a pre-determined amount per remaining person to go into their team banks. What do ya'll think?
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 9:04 pm
rw should offer katie money to throw the final challenge for rr. i would love to see that. wow i didn't think it possible but holly is more <QT> then ever. what about $10,000 going to the winner of the gauntlet/inferno? who ever is picked to go into it would be able to keep the money. would make it very interesting on who would be willing to face it then. i wonder if veronica as well as some others would go???
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Broxi
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03-11-2004
| Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 9:12 pm
I agree with you Upstate, when you said the winner should keep the 10 grand themselves. I bet you would see some of the people like Veronica willing to go. {I picked her cause she has never gone into one this show....and I doubt anyone on that team would send her!!!! What a TEAM they are...but that is my opinion of them}... Anyway...let the winner of the elimination round Keep the money.... we may see people FIGHTING to be the one sent in! I also would rather see RW win. Overall they played with integrity!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 1:31 pm
Who should win? Well this is a tough one. There are people on both teams I find distasteful. I also find myself rooting for RW sometimes because they are such underdogs. But reallly, this is a competition and whoever comepetes the best in the competitions deserves to win. Based on that, I think it will most likely be RR and deservedly so. They've completely outplayed RW time and again. Even in competitions they attempted to throw to get rid of Katie, they still managed to win or nearly win due to the ineptitude of multiple RW players. I don't believe in casting stones at these players, I think that sort of posting is just getting old in my book. (To the point I don't bother checking to boards as much anymore.) So, there is NO way I'm going to decide who should win based on judging their characters. So, whoever wins, should win and deserves to win. I hope the money helps them all out in their lives and ambitions, whatever the happen to be.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 7:05 pm
really? i find how some of these people on rr and rw cast stones....no boulders at other players to be distasteful. i guess all is fair game when money is involved. who ever completes the tasks....will win! lol
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 7:36 pm
I honestly don't even care anymore who wins and who doesn't. I don't know if any of them are deserving.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 11:32 pm
Personally, I'm rooting for the spiders..
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