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Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi everyone. Starting a thread for tonight.

Not usually much talk until after the show, but here it is. :-)

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, I am ready to be spoiled if you can.

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ohhh, shoot, I'm not much of a spoiler. I tend to miss everything when I try to do that.

Terribly sorry about that. :-(

All I can say at this point, is that the job for the week, is to run a promotion to register gamblers at one of Trumps casinos. Team who books the guests who spend the most cash at the casino from 10am to 10 pm wins.

Sorry, this is going to pretty much be it from me till the show is over.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No problem Thanks for what you can do. I will check back after it is over.

Sbw
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08-09-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Amy was project manager, they lost. She has chosen Nick to go back to the suite and she and Katrina in the boardroom. (Sorry I didn't want the first 40 minutes but that is where it is now.)

Demeter
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08-05-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Troy, Kwame, Bill on one team. Amy, Katrina, Nick on another. The guy team won.

Amy and Katrina into the final board room.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Amy was mad that they lost. She kept swallowing and looked like she was ready to blow. In the boardroom, the Donald asked whose stupid idea it was to offer a car rental. Amy couldn't remember (uh huh).

Amy sends Nick back upstairs. so now we wait to see if it is Katrina or Amy.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you spoilers. Isn't this Amy's first time in the boardroom?

Demeter
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08-05-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Not hard to guess...Katrina gone.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Katrina was sent home. I disagree with this decision.

Sbw
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08-09-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Katrina out. Yes Kellsma it was and the Donald indicated that this all played into his decision.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
YIPPEEE!!!!! I think I scored big this wk

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Since when are Nick and Amy "everybody's favorite couple (as the promo stated)?" I find them slightly repulsive together myself.

I also disagree with this decision, not because Katrina was good but because Trump had previously fired someone (Erika?) for not bringing her friend to the boardroom. Amy did the same thing and got away with it. Katrina should've spoken up about whose lousy idea the car rental was instead of just biting her tongue. Amy has done some good work in the past, but I think she gets too much credit for being the reason behind every win. If she had been the PM for every win I could understand it, but some of it really has been just luck where she's concerned.

This was a great episode. Troy and the guys were amazing, and that little boy was really something else.

I wonder how those models felt hearing themselves being referred to as hookers.

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Trump is going to have to air out the casino, that rental idea really stunk the place up.

I was surprised how much the car team allowed itself to be pushed around. The guys were acting like the owned the place.

Pirate
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06-20-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was hoping Katrina or Nick would be sent packing tonight, but not the way it happened. I use to like Amy and now she just dropped off my radar screen. I can't stand Nick. He just sat by and didn't seem to do anything. He didn't even contribute in the decision of what the promo would be. Amy just plain lied in the boardroom and Nick sat there with his thumb up his butt. Since when has he ever been so closed mouth in the boardroom? Can't stand either of them, they deserve each other. I didn't much care for Katrina but what Amy did was pretty low. At least Troy and Kwame take ownership in their decisions. I expect to see these two in the finals. Bill hasn't impressed me either, but I would rather see Amy or Nick go next week.



Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmmmmm, interesting. 45 minutes to show time here. That is who I thought would go this week, according to the editing. She has been demonized past three or four episodes.

Purplecow
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12-08-2003

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

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Trump had previously fired someone (Erika?) for not bringing her friend to the boardroom


That's why I was surprised that Trump didn't fire Troy for not bringing his buddy Kwame into the boardroom. I think he just looks for an excuse to fire the one he wants to fire.

Ironic that Protege began as all women and is now all men.

I was very disappointed that Amy didn't fess up that the rental car was her idea. It was her idea to sell ads on the pedi-cabs. You can't always come up with winning ideas 100% of the time. Trump had no intention of firing her tonight. She could have been truthful. Of course she has no experience with being in the boardroom.

Katrina, who was reprimanded for not taking over the rental negotiations, since it is supposedly her area of expertise, even though she had delegated that task, had a lot of nerve complaining that Amy didn't let her close the negotiations on the rental car, especially since Amy gave her full credit for making that deal.

I used to think it was going to be Amy, but now I'm leaning towards Troy. He's had some pretty pitiful losing ideas, too, though. The other thing about Troy is that Donald really prizes a good education and Troy didn't go to college. While it's true that Bill Gates didn't go to college, either, Donald and his 3 older children all have or are pursuing advanced degrees.

I can't remember Kwame doing anything other than signing autographs and that wasn't even his idea. What has he contributed that I'm not aware of? I can't remember seeing anything.

The difference between the two teams tonight was only $15,000. ($105,000 vs $120,000) so it's not like Versacorp really got skunked.

Katrina said, in the boardroom, that she wanted to bring in showgirls and make it like a circus. Donald said that the casino was no place for a circus. Isn't that what Protege did? He also criticized Protege for taking gamblers off the floor.

Could Protege have made enough money by offering a car rather than a car rental (which I do think was pretty lame) after deducting the price of the car? Hard to say. On the other hand, as Donald Rumsfeld said at the end of his TV interview this evening, a turtle doesn't go anywhere unless it sticks its neck out.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 10:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Frankly, I think once they got down to three people on each team they should've all been required to go before the board. Allowing the PMs to choose who they go up against is just giving them the power to save someone, and of course at this point they can't be objective anymore.

Purplecow, I haven't seen Kwame do anything memorable either. Sooner or later they've got to notice this. If he'd been put up against Heidi I'm not so sure Heidi would've left first. It's true that Troy was also guilty of getting his friend off the hook, and so was Kwame when he did the same for Troy. Firing Erika was stupid in light of what people have gotten away with since then. It's interesting that Trump has taken out most of the women first, considering they showed that they were stronger than the men until the groups got mixed up. Does he think it was Amy who was single-handedly winning it for the women?

Puttergirl
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08-11-2000

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's what I don't understand. What kind of recourses are they given? Versacorp gave away $1000 and all kinds of other prizes. And Donald hinted that Protege should have offered the full car. Are they given seed money to start or can they just ask for something and get it? If so, I've have given each person I could recruit a $20 voucher to gamble- which could only be put into a slot machine or used at a table game.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm assuming that any money spent for their promotion was factored out of the final tally.

Personally, I have disliked Katrina for a long time. I thinks she's very self-involved and very catty. And yes, it could be the editing. Everytime we see her, she's whining about how no one listens to her ideas, how this person cheated, blah, blah, blah. Has she ever said anything nice about anyone else there? Who does she work well with that was left in the final six? And what does that say about her? It seems like she has complained about all of them at one point or another. And it was completely unnecessary to declare Nick and Amy as "boyfriend" and girlfriend in the boardroom. I think she honestly considered that tidbit of gossip as her ace in the hole and I think it backfired on her. Ayee, I'm glad to see her gone! I would not want to work with this woman in any capacity.

I see Troy, Bill, and Amy in the final three at this point.

PS: I love this show!

Pirate
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06-20-2002

Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 11:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope in Apprentice II that they show more of the discussion in the boardroom with and without the contestants.

One thing I did enjoy tonight was the kid that Versacorp negotiated with to use the people from the show and the tiger. I thought the best line tonight was when the kid said to Troy that he had some advice for Troy - when it's sold, quit selling. That was great.



Lovedana
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08-03-2003

Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved this episode. I still think that every episode is predictable though. I figured Amy would lose this week.

Although I saw reasons to fire Amy, I could also see from her perspective how it would work to her advantage to have Nick. It sure isn't helpful getting into catfights. On the other hand, I would be troubled if I were Mr. Trump to have a prospective president who seems to appeal to sexuality. I wouldn't want my business to be buried with scandals. Amy is quite hypocritical, just as much as Katrina was, and I figured that out since. She criticized Katrina for using her sexuality, yet there she was doing the same thing in previous shows. She also admitted to Mr. Trump that she thinks it's all right to do so. I was grinning when I heard the two girls agreeing with each other about almost everything in the boardroom. I couldn't make sense of it, and I would fire both if I could. Hehe....

Perhaps Katrina didn't speak up about that being Amy's idea because she was afraid Nick would join in and imply or explicitly state that she was lying, and she was responsible for it. Two witnesses are better than one. If I recall, didn't Carolyn state (not verbatim) that Amy's idea this week was extremely stupid? So if Carolyn attributed the idea to Amy, then maybe she did admit, or Katrina stated, that it was her (Amy's) idea?

My prediction for next week from the preview: Either Nick or Troy gets fired. I doubt it's Troy (since he's shown leadership for the most part), so my guess is Nick got fired. My reasoning? Well, in the preview Donald speaks of the person keeping shut, and only two of those folks talk much. And they are the only two likely to speak when uninvited.

Lovedana
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08-03-2003

Friday, March 26, 2004 - 12:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nick has hardly had much to contribute, coupled with his ongoing relationship with Amy, revealed to Mr. Trump by Katrina. It would seem like a sign of weakness. He'll be questioned about it. Amy also admitted that she believed Nick had a true crush on her--not good! Hence, I highly suspect that Nick is next. I think it's about time, anyway.

I agree with Curlyq: They shouldn't have had the project managers choose who amongst the three went upstairs. If the show were like this from the start, we may as well have another Big Brother show or something. Hehehe....

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, March 26, 2004 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

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Amy is quite hypocritical,




Ah, it wasn't just me who thought that. So it's bad for Katrina to do some very mild flirting with the car guy, but it's fine to hire hook--, um, models, yea, that's what they called them, models...to draw attention to their promotion. And it's just fine for Amy to encourage Nick's crush on her to get farther in the game.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, March 26, 2004 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

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Could Protege have made enough money by offering a car rather than a car rental (which I do think was pretty lame) after deducting the price of the car?




Protoge made a point of saying you didn't need to be there to win the car rental/$300, but Versacorp's drawing at the end was based on ticket stubs, so you had to be there to win. That to me seemed like a great way to keep people in the casino gambling longer than they may have otherwise -- might as well gamble away that $1000 they planned on winning in the drawing. However, there was no reason for people who entered Protoge's raffle to stick around and gamble more.