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Cr8ofdata

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What I want to see is her reaction to the hunks! I bet she will be so grateful that she sends all of them except the artist HOME. Anyway, can't wait for the real reality show to start ASS then I can stop watching this stuff.

Resortgirl

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My hubby and I were saying just this exact thing last night as we watched the show. These guys are not what I'd call average. I could get by the looks, but most are so lacking in social graces and personality. It's really unfair to the girl to expect that she would have anything in common with some of these guys. I was thinking though, the same may be true of the hunks. These guys probably spend and average of 3 hours a day getting bodies like that. I would think some of them are rather shallow. Give me a nice, average guy with a great personality any day!!

Bobbie_552001

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The producers of this show had to go out their way to find these guys....there is nothing "average" about them.

Eliz87

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, all of them are real stinkers, although I did think Donato was very nice. However, he was also the heaviest and I just don't think she could deal with that.

Luvmom

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Actually,I really like Tony.He is shy but sweet.He
is a talented young man from what i saw.I'll be cheering for him.

Zgoodgirl

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It is obvious that Larissa is being told to keep David. Does anyone else see her squirm when he talks to her? If this poor child is the only thing that the producers have to use as entertainment purposes, then they are in trouble.

None of these men have caught my attention as the last season did. I see no great minds, blazing personalities, or kind hearts in this bunch. Other than Tony, Donato, or Fredo, I don't think these guys could even capture an average Jane's heart.

And IMHO, some are just as shallow as they claim the woman they can't get are. Does anyone remember last week's episode when the guys were talking about what the woman was going to look like? I can't remember who it was, it was one of the heavier ones, but he said, "Watch her be 5'1" and 360."

I don't know what kind of show they are shooting for, IMO I think they want the Average Joes to fall flat on their faces. If not, they would have picked a better group of men. And aren't there like 8-9 hunks coming into the show? More than the last show? Didn't the last show have them come in after the elimination? So, there is 8 left, and probably next week, she will eliminate maybe 2 more? So now the Joes will be outnumbered. Ten to one, all of them will be gone except for one just because the show is titled 'Average Joe'.

This is not a show about brains versus brawn, personality versus physique. And it makes me kinda sick that the producers actually think that these men are 'average'??

Excuse me for my rambling, I had to vent. What could have easily been an entertaining show has turned into a big thumbed nose to many Average Joes.

Babyjaxmom

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The thing that always cracks me up is that almost every guy who gets eliminated complains about how she can't get beyond the "looks" and see what a great guy is inside. But whenever Larissa shows up in a bikini or a beautiful cocktail dress, they fall all over themselves saying how hot she looks and what a great body she has. Who's shallow?

I am intrigued by the chef guy. What woman doesn't love a man who can cook for her? He would be more attractive if he was motivated to lose some weight. I thought his comment that he's not really fat, just "retaining a lot of water right now" was cute.

I agree, most of these guys are not average. A lot of them are straight-up freaks (like David--what a bozo!). Some of them scare me!

Brenda1966

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The premise of this show is interesting, but the excution is not following through on the idea. No way these guys are "average". And the heavy guy who left last night and was boo-hooing about how shallow she was, well I'd like to ask him how many 300+ pound women he's dated? I'm sure many heavy women can complain about men not seeing past the weight and being shallow.

I do like this gal a lot better than the last one. And I think they pick pageant winners for a reason -- they've had a lot of practice at being graceful around all kind of people, even ones as odd as these guys.

There's nothing else on Monday night so I'll keep watching.

Realfan

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Totally, Babyjaxmom!! I remarked on that again last night. When she showed up at the boxing match in her skimpy outfit, one guy said she had "everything" and was perfect. I was wondering when he figured out her personality was perfect, she had a kind heart and a giving nature, and a high IQ--or whatever traits they really value. I mean, they are just as shallow as any hunky guy!

Brenda, when that one heavy guy was whining about no one wanting to date him, my husband said exactly that--have you tried heavy women?

I'm glad she kept the executive chef--he seemed to have a lot going for him despite his weight.

This time there will be eight hunks, compared to THREE last time. Ouch! I don't know how any of them can survive, unless the hunks are coached to act like complete tools.

All in all, the show is kinda dull. I watched with only half an eye. I feel I've already seen this exercise in futility.

Gina8642

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also agree these guys are NOT average. David is a complete freak. And how many guys do you know who make art out of facial hair, or decide to dress like they are stuck in a 50's band? Or shave half their head, dress like they are in a motorcycle gang but declare a love for classical music? These guys are NOT average and they are NOT normal.

Last night was completely cringe worthy. I fast forwarded through too much to make many comments. I'm not finding any of them attractive - most especially in personality.

The christian guy is a cutey - but hello - why start off every convo talking about Jesus? I liked the redhead guy - but then again, I FF through the boxing, so I missed what bugged Larissa (BTW - I absolutely HATE boxing - do the editors honestly think they will keep female viewers by showing guys beat on one another? YUCK!) Phuc looked like a serial killer when his eyes were darting all over the place while talking to Larissa. I'm sure he's not - but that would have freaked me out.

Llkoolaid

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What I want to know is when are they going to have and Average Jane show. I want to see how a man will react to having to date ugly, fat, skinny, women with little to no social skills. I think they are being told who to weed out and who to pick in the end. I bet she picks the artist guy. She had a worse reaction on meeting them than Malena did but Malena went for the looks. They will probably have her pick the artist guy just to prove that the Average guy can win.

Please bring on Survivor.

Mack

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What is it with all the tattoos? Maybe it's because I hate needles but the thought of permanently marking my body just escapes me. Do "average" guys now have all sorts of tattoos? Of course, I should add that my DW and I are far from convinced that AJ 2 contains many "average" guys. Should also add that the show makes me want to kiss and tell my wife even more how much I love her. Always considered myself kind of an average guy and DW is truly a beauty. Luckily she looked past the surface!

Ark

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I opted to watch American Chopper and only flipped to AJ during commercials. I caught part of her date with the guy that was painting her portrait. From the little I saw, he seemed interesting, but I just can't get into this show.

Eliz87

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I know, Mack...I would get rid of the tattooed guys first. One tattoo is okay, but is it really necessary to have them on both arms, your back, etc.? Some people like them, but they're just not for me, really.

Also, I think it's STRANGE that the one guy does art on his face with his beard. But Larissa seems to like it. To each his own I guess!

Laura11103

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I read all the posts but no one has mentioned the kiss *blech* with David! I nearly fainted. She totally let him kiss her and kinda went for it herself. Definitely ballsy of him. I like David, but he's so physically out of her league, I know, that's the point of the show, but he's painful to look at. Maybe if he got a decent haircut and some dental work, I don't know, I was just shocked that he's the first one to kiss her, even if it was just a peck. The producers had to have forced her into that somehow.

The artist, Tom? He's pretty nice and probably the most attractive IMO of these guys, and even he is pretty weird looking, couldn't believe she asked for a kiss, lol, but he's sweet, I was happy for him. She's so beautiful I must say.

They sure zipped over Justin leaving, which one was he anyway? Can't remember.

That boxing was ridiculous and I'm glad she got rid of Tim.

I would get rid of the jesus lover right away. Some things you have to have in common and I believe that's one of them. If Jesus is No. 1 for him and not for her, how could it possibly work?

I'm looking forward to meeting the Hunks next week.

Hummingbird

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This show is an insult to average males. The idea is that a guy is either drop-dead gorgeous or a dork or fat. I still can't remember anyone named Justin from this group. He must not have made much of an impression since no one else remembers him either.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As for the idea that some of the "average" guys have so much more to offer than the "hunks".. who says a hunk can't be multidimensional. And David works in the mail room.. nothing wrong with that but not an overachiever I'd say.

The song was pathetic. He just met her and he's written this song ABOUT her? Isn't he just assuming that she's all that because of her looks?

Actually i like her and think she's gutsy.

Spwisc

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heard the same thing about 6 guys leaving and she said 2 different times that she had to eliminate 5. Then at the end of the show they had 6 pictures up but so quick I didn't know who the 6th was and WHY he left??

David is beyond weird. Possibly he could cut his hair short, get contacts, add some weight and muscle and look semi-normal but his personality is off the charts, bouncing off the walls. Not sure why in the world she kept him there?!!

Costacat

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
See, I don't mind that some of the guys are not the most attractive men I've ever met. But these guys? They stutter and stumble and can't look at her while they talk. Socially inept is an understatement... I think some of these guys must've been sleeping when they handed out plain old common sense.

I'm not really all that shallow, but if I were 5'10" (oh, wait, I *am* 5'10") I would be really pissed off at the 5'4" and 5'6" men. Think about it... if I wear my lower 3" heels, I'll be 6'1"!!! At least a half foot taller!! Sorry, but I don't want to be the big one in a relationship! Not by that much anyways.

David is a true dork (look up the term in the dictionary... his picture is there!).

BTW, I just watched my tape of last night's episode. A chunk of about 5 minutes was deleted from the show and it must've been the part where Justin left. We had a "state of the city" address last night that ran overtime, and I guess that's what they decided to cut out so that the news could begin at 11pm, on time. Sheesh!

I don't think Larissa is that much better than last season's Melana. Larissa seems to have less social skills, too. She doesn't seem to really want to try and put some of the really awkward guys at ease.

I'm a bit tweaked that Larissa got rid of a couple of the heavier guys (whom she obviously enjoyed) and kept a couple with whom she obviously didn't have much connection.

This is one bizarre show. I think I may boycott "Average" anything until they reverse it and do an "Average Jane!"

Creampuff

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi everyone! Finally found my way back to TVCH and see you're all talking about Average Joe - Hawaii.

I see David has been discussed here so this should be interesting to all. Surprise! Surprise!

http://www.lacasting.com/talentshowcase.asp?talentid=182971

Cr8ofdata

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok I have to share... I dated alot of "hunks" when I was younger and in my 20's. I have danced since I was 4 years old and even taught some ball room dancing for awhile. So when my husband... came along I was NOT interested in him at all. I thought he was a huge dork and he thought the world stopped at his doorstep. I met him in a bar with other friends. He "thought" he was funny and all I wanted to do was to get him out of "my" space. Well, he asked me to dance and with all of the snob I could muster I told him "NO unless he could do the waltz" Thinking there is noway this guy could do the waltz muchless dance! Well, he said to me "by the way I can waltz, so let's go!" He completely swept me off my feet! He moved in 4 weeks later, asked me to marry him 6 weeks later and we have been married for 13 years, and I love him more today than I did yesterday. All of my friends said it would never last and asked me if I had lost my mind! Well, they all married hunks and are divorced and wished they were in my shoes! Just wanted to share - there is always a chance for the "average joe" out there.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It figures!! Good to see you, creampuff.

That little guy from last season who we found out was an actor, ended up this season doing intros.. that explains why David is still there.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Crate.. but your hubby sounds like a REAL average Joe.. he had the confindence and skill to literally sweep you off your feet.. some of these guys don't seem to come close to that.

Nice story :)

Creampuff

Tuesday, January 13, 2004 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Seamonkey - Great to see you too! When does BB start? LOL

I wouldn't have known about David but I ran across that on another board, of course. Wasn't it said that David delivered mail or something? If they want to tell Larissa that's what he does, fine, but I don't think they should lie to the viewing audience!

Llkoolaid

Wednesday, January 14, 2004 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For all of you that missed Justin leaving, in Canada we saw the whole show and just before she had to choose they showed a clip of him leaving saying he got called home for personal reasons. Must have been some family emergency that he didn't want aired. That is why she only chose 5.