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Realfan
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08-08-2001

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree about the materialism of the show. I'm sick of Trump showing off his goodies. Can't they pay for them to have a real vacation somewhere?

I thought it was really tacky of Amy to say that now her sister can experience the lifestyle SHE'S become "accustomed to." Urgh!

Jan
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08-01-2000

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Happy Birthday, Sea! (waving madly)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    

quote:

Loose cannon?




I think part of the problem was Troy's "loose cannon" thinking outside the box too often included lying -- and not just of the stretching the truth type. It didn't seem to be well thought out, and could potentially lead to big trouble.

That said, I think have the personality of the show left with Troy. the four who are left are rather blah to me.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree I have lost interest in this show because it seems apparent to me that it is all fixed. It doesnt matter how hard these people try, it is predetermined who will win the challenge and who will go. I mean come on some guy who walked out before, walks in on the last five minutes, plonks down 40,800 for a New Years party that will end at Midnight. Next weeks challenge is going to be to sell the Brooklyn Bridge.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok..I am really am serious...how did Troy get that southern accent??? Do people in Idaho talk that way??

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Texannie: Okay, now you got me curious. Don't see any southern accent coming from the following:

Born in Anchorage Alaska, Troy spent the majority
of his childhood split between both Alaska and Montana. He was not able to pursue any higher education because he took on the responsibility of supporting his mother and sister at a very young age. Troy ran a health club in Spokane, WA for a couple of years, before he decided to enter the field of investing. He is currently building an insurance business and working as a mortgage lender. He is also involved in real estate development and owns 7 properties.

hmmm, good question.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I adore him. I wanted him to win. BUT this billing as "I'm just a good ol' southern boy" is making me crazy!!! LOL

Dat1ua95
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11-05-2003

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe he means Southern Idaho.

Crossfire
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08-07-2001

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Troy is going to be on Leno tonight.

Starshine40
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07-30-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 10:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy said, "Is it me or does anyone else feel Amy doesn't feel the same as Nick does? She always says HE has a crush on her and during the jet thing she didn't look that infatuated with him and he does with her."
I agree with your assessment, he does seem really interested in her and she just seems so so with him.



Lauram
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07-13-2000

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One thing that struck me as odd when I saw the penthouse that they were trying to rent --> Donald was showing the room to the two teams and they were in awe and shock at the beauty of the room. Clearly they hadn't seen it before.

But, as they continued to showcase the room I thought I recognized it as the one that Omarosa did her "Jackie O" one-on-ones. Now I had to wonder why they would have brought Omarosa to this very special location (especially if they had planned on using it for one of the later tests). It just makes me go "Hummm"

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Troy's accent is more 'Western ranch hand' than 'Southern'. I was raised in Arizona, now live in Washington, and have friends in Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming. Troy's accent is recognizable in all those states.
Did he call himself "just a good ol' southern boy"? I can't remember.
However, with just a little bit of exaggeration, western can easily sound southern.
Yee haw, y'all.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Friday, April 02, 2004 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't watch the show that closely. I have no idea if he called himself "just a good ol' southern boy"...but, i don't think so.

Maybe he just has a country boy/cownboy accent...i have no idea. I'm horrible with recognizing accents, not only in US but, especially from outside of the US. DH is so much better than I am with accents outside of US.

However, I don't think Troy/producers "faked" his accent just for the show.

Who knows where he got that accent from.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My understanding about Troy being a 'loose cannon' is this. His team had two 'couples' interested in renting the penthouse. He 'laid it on thick' to squeeze as much money out of them as he could, including outright lying that he already had 'two firm offers.' The one couple sensed they were being bamboozled & walked away from the negotiation (i.e. Troy LOST them).

Then I am not sure about this, but I thought the very same couple went downstairs and gave Nick & Amy MORE money than Troy was asking, probably to spite him. Does anyone know if it was it the same couple??

Regardless, Troy's negotiating tactics turned away a potential client that was moments away from signing. Trump is obviously looking for someone more measured & professional, who will not lose deals with a fast & loose 'street hustling' approach. Though it is ironic that Troy said that his 'education' was Trump's 'The Art of the Deal.'

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Buggles -

no, it definitley was not the same couple.

The couple who gave Amy & Nick the $40,800 was a couple that Amy & Nick showed the space to earlier, but the guy (Ian) left because he wanted it for a New Years Eve party, and one of the conditions of the lease is to be out by 12 midnight.

Also - just my opinion - I didn't get the impression that the "loose canon" comment was based on just this task.
Personally, I don't get the "loose cannon" comment. Sam - yes. Troy - not so much.

Also, the couple that Troy played hard ball with - even if they agreed to his price - he still would have lost because it was still under $40,800.



Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think he's faking it. Maybe he said country boy and to this egocentric Texan that only means southern! LOL
He was cute on Leno. Loved how he asked Jay to talked to "DT" about sending him to Wharton.

Fanny
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09-13-2000

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Texannie, I have the same obsession as you. LOL

I was born and raised in Montana and have family and friends scattered all over Alaska, Idaho, Washington and Wyoming. I've lived in Colorado for the past 25 years. I'm fairly familiar with the speech patterns and accents found in this region. Those I know who are natives or semi-natives of those states do not have an accent like Troy's.

Don't know whar in thu hay-ull he pecked up that thar speekin tone a his. shore as sheeit didn't come from thais part a thu country, un you cun be durn tootin about that.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Luvmykitties - thanks for clearing that up :-)

I didn't think the 'loose cannon' remark was about this week only either, but that Troy's performance this time really sealed it. He's shown on multiple occasions though imo that he flies by the seat of his pants & takes a questionable approach. He just doesn't seem to consider the possible downsides of his impulses carefully.

Like when he was PM with the rickshaw task... he ran & changed his clothes & decided to play 'cosmic cowboy' instead of sitting down & putting some business thought into how they might pull in more money. Pretty risky way of utilizing their time if you ask me, and not very executive-like... I doubt that's what George or Carolyn would have done :-)

Then with the casino episode he ran off to watch a show for a couple of valuable hours & had the tigers brought in, which as Amy noted people were staring at instead of gambling. I think Trump really credited Bill with the win on that one.

Don't get me wrong, I like Troy & think he's shown a lot of talent... just sayin

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Troy, too, but I can see where DT would be a bit leery of naming him as a CEO. While his actions in many of the tasks weren't illegal, they were somewhat unethical. In addition to the ones Buggles named above, wasn't Troy the one who set up the Kwame autographing session? I laughed and shrugged that one off when it happened, but I can see where all of these things combined might make DT think he could not be confident that Troy would always make the right decisions. Not a loose cannon in the same degree as Sam, but too unpredictable for comfort.

As to his accent, maybe one or both of his parents were from the south? I am born and raised in TX, but my mother is from IL and apparently my accent is somewhere inbetween (according to people who are surprised to hear I am from TX.) Also, even here in TX there is a great difference between urban and rural accents, and east Texans have a language all their own.

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you for reminding me of some of the things Troy did. I guess because I liked him, I forgot about some of those impulsive decisions.



Chieko
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11-20-2003

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Catfat,
LOL,---- Troy's accent is Western Ranch Hand. That is a great description! I live in SD-NE Ranch country and lots of cowboys around here talk that way.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cathie..ain't that the truth about East Texas! LOL
Western Ranch hand...ok, didn't know! LOL

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
http://rinkworks.com/dialect/
If you go to this site, it will change whatever you write into different dialects. The "redneck" one comes out sounding a bit like Troy! I do not mean to make fun of anyone...just the different dialects come out VERY funny!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Guess who's back next show. Everybody's sweetheart Omarosa & everybody's guy who sounds like a redneck but probably isn't one Troy



Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Saturday, April 03, 2004 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Omarosa & Troy are coming back! Is anybody else watching SNL?