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Danzdol
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04-21-2001

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hmmm I have to agree with everyone about the "outgrowing it" comments.

I started watching with the San Francisco (I forget the year- 92 maybe?) Anyhow, I was in college and it seemed so interesting to me. Now a decade later, married with a son it just does not hold the same interest. I remember when I used to miss is I used to get so mad. Now it's not that big of a deal. If I catch it good, of not-whatever.

I even went on THE GRIND when it was filmed in South Beach, I thought it was so cool. Now you would have to drag me and pay me really good to go to one of those things. ALL day dancing in the sun and all they did was throw a couple of water bottles to the audience . You were lucky if you got one........

I think I am about to retire my MTV watching.

Texasdeb
Member

05-23-2003

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I found the RW/RR challenge (battle of the sexes) in total replay one boring Sunday last yr & have watched everything since. I've only seen RW-Vegas, Paris, & this season. I only saw the last RR (the one w/Abe & Christene). I guess I've missed alot because I'm so not tired of seeing this & like the fact you can catch it on the weekend if you miss it on it's 1st showing. I also like how you can watch the 2 prev. eps prior to the new one on the 1st showing. I will only watch the new one tonight because I can't stand to see Frankie & all of her serious problems exploded again. I hope they focuse on something else tonight.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think tonight they will focus on Cameron being jelous (again) because whatshisname has a one night stand with someone.. I have to wait until tomorrow to tape this one..

Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Could someone please give a short recap of last night's show, I missed it!? Thanks!!!



Not1worry
Member

07-30-2002

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Frogi, I have quit watching it, but I go to www.televisionwithoutpity.com to read recaps. It's funnier and better than actually watching the show. They post a short recaplet hitting the highlights, then a few days later there is a full recap.

Same here Danz, I started watching the LA RW, that was the one with Jon and Beth, right? I had just come back from living overseas with one TV channel. I was immediately addicted to RW and I think it hooked me on reality TV. Now I've got 2 kids and the "10 Spot" is more like bedtime for me.

Azlen
Member

08-27-2000

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here is Entertainment Weekly's Recap

After tuning in for President Bush's press conference, watching the April 13 episode of ''The Real World'' turned my evening into one big repetition. First I had 60 minutes of Bush reiterating that freedom is great, and then I got 30 minutes of Cameran saying that Brad is disgusting. In other words, it was 90 minutes of people stating and restating the obvious but missing a central point. I'll leave the pundits to dissect the President's speech, while I concentrate on Cameran.

We began as the housemates decided to go drinking. (Gee, I guess the library was closed!) Brad met a woman, Jackie, who he had a great deal in common with: They both liked discussing what bars they'd just been to. ''Oh my God, you like puking in trash cans so you don't have to wait for a toilet stall? I love that too!'' But the eerie similarities didn't end there: They both liked fast cars AND motorcycles! What are the odds that two people with the same wildly disparate interests would meet up? That's like discovering someone who loves french fries AND tater tots. Propose now, Brad, this is kismet!

Jackie sensed the chemistry, and made her move. After Brad brought her home, he asked her, ''What do you want to do?'' and she replied, ''You.'' I'm guessing that somewhere on the ''Real World'' cutting-room floor lies the subsequent hour of footage of her explaining this witty riposte to Brad, and diagramming it on a chalkboard.

Cameran was none too pleased with any of this. She unfairly proclaimed Jackie ''a little on the loose side'' hours before Brad's one-night stand actually demonstrated that she was a LOT on the loose side. And then Cameran led the entire house in mocking the drunk, rambling Jackie, which is the very definition of the word ''hypocrisy.'' People who live in glass bottles shouldn't throw shot glasses, or words to that effect.

Cameran kept saying how disappointed she was in Brad, and how he wasn't the guy she thought he was. What kind of guy did she think he was? He's been in the drunk tank twice, and the nights that he doesn't end up there is only because the cops weren't paying attention. Frankly, I wouldn't be surprised if Brad made a pass at Frankie's underwear drawer.

But on and on Cameran complained, over and over again. ''She's a , Brad's disgusting, she's a , Brad's disgusting…'' As this repeated, I thought of the movie ''Speed,'' where Keanu Reeves makes an endless loop of the bus passengers sitting quietly so Dennis Hopper, watching the security-camera feed, doesn't realize that they're actually escaping. I began to panic that as I was being hypnotized by Cameran's cyclic whining, the ''Real World'' producers were breaking into my apartment.

The Greek-chorus roommates commented endlessly on how Cameran was just jealous. (That is, they did so when not busy creeping up to Brad's room and peeking at the action under the curtain. What, I thought, was with this house's voyeuristic need to watch each other's hook-ups? Of course, then I realized that I was voyeuristically watching these roommates voyeuristically watch each other's hook-ups, which is two steps removed from interesting. And that is when I felt my soul leave my body and take a bus ride to Abilene, not to come back until I pick up a book.)

Cameran would not cop to being jealous, only to being disgusted. She couldn't comprehend why anyone would have a one-night stand. Now, disliking casual sex is perfectly valid for some. Granted, she was a bit sanctimonious about it, but still. However, after about 25 minutes of ranting and complaining, she casually mentions that her father cheated on her mother so Cameran wouldn't trust any man, regardless of how he acted.

Oh. So THAT'S the problem.

So we were subjected to nearly a full show of her whining about Brad's promiscuity, only to find out that she has issues so deep-seated that she'd consider John Ashcroft to be a big ol' pervert? Shouldn't this information have been revealed a little earlier so as to clarify her behavior? It was as if there was no prologue to the movie ''Mystic River,'' and at the end a voiceover said, ''Oh, one more thing… Tim Robbins' character had been abducted and sexually abused as a little kid. Sorry, was that important?'' What fun is it being voyeuristic about these people's lives if you're not told everything that you're seeing?


Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks guys! Wow, I think I'm glad I missed it!!!



Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the post Azlen. This guy is hilarious! Is it posted on EW website the day after the show? I actually went and bought the magazine last week thinking it would be in there. Though, I do have to say the reviewer for the tv shows was too funny.

Azlen
Member

08-27-2000

Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They post it on the website late on the night of the show. I don't know if he gets an advance look at the episode or if he just writes really fast. You do need a keyword from the magazine to get on the website though, its usually listed on the "Letters to the Editor" page.

Sweetmelissa04
Member

03-20-2004

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Honestly, I think this is it for Real World. I realize that society is changing but I feel that this show is getting out of hand. I never hear anyone speak of college or doing something with there lives besides drink, party, etc. What is this saying really? And I'm sorry, but Real World staff doesn't care about the people in the house. I just looked up the ages of all these people and THREE of them are under 21. They all drink heavely in the house. They use fake ID's to buy this alcohol. What is that? Promoting illegal activity for television??? I don't know, I'm getting old at my ripe old age of 24 and can't take this anymore. Sorry, that's not reality to me anymore. My hubbers lived in San Diego for a year and that wasn't his life either. It's not all about that and I wish MTV would go back to picking people with ambission in life.

Sweetmelissa04
Member

03-20-2004

Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
^^^^^
And that is coming from someone who was addicted to this show. I even have books about the first six seasons....

Chieko
Member

11-20-2003

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched the show tonight and I just can't get a take on Frankie. She seems so melancholy. I just don't understand why she would sign on to do a television show like this. She doesn't seem up to it or enjoying herself at all. And what's with her comment about drinking-------she's one of the worst offenders. Are we ever going to hear about the alledged rape or are they editing that out?

Willsfan
Member

09-04-2000

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Frankie would rather be on the trip with Dave or someone other than the RW members. I can understand that, but I would have still been overjoyed to get a free trip anywhere at her age.

Can someone tell me about the preview - the phone rang and I jumped to answer it just when Frankie {?} or Robin was yelling. I couldn't tell who.

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, April 27, 2004 - 10:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It showed Frankie and I think she was yelling at Brad. She also told Cameran to shut up so I really don't know what that's about. Robin was yelling at Cameran saying that she got arrested for her. Can't tell what that's about either. Frankie's whole attitude about the trip was horrid anyway so she might as well make everyone else as miserable as her.

Danzdol
Member

04-21-2001

Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
if someone has last night's episode taped...I am very curious as to what that last preview was all about. Cameran was still in a towel like all of this happened after the hot tub kissing scene.

It all was shown so fast that I was like "huh?"

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
is anyone even watching this anymore? I personally find it to be a pretty boring season.
I watch it when I catch it, but don't go out of my way to catch it.

I did catch parts of the last couple of episodes tonight...

1) last week - when Dave came to visit Frankie - did anyone else notice what looks like "cuts" on her upper leg? It was towards the end of the show when she was wearing a short plaid skirt, and she and Dave were laying on the bed. I'm surprised they didn't zoom in on it.

2) wasn't there talk a couple of months ago that they went to Mexico? (right after the alleged date rape). Well tonight they were in Greece. Are they going to Mexico too? Gee, they work so hard - I guess they deserve it roll eyes

3) does anyone else find Randy cute? When he's not really drunk - I think he's adorable. He cracks me up. Him and Jaquese (sp?).
I wish they'd show more of Ja! He's one of the coolest people I've seen on the show in quite some time - IMO.

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My oh My oh My...

First of all, they get a free trip to the beautiful Greek Isles and we have to watch Frankie pout. Then when they are drunk and Robin is yelling at Cameran, Frankie pounces in like a lion on prey. She was exactly trying to get them angrier. She didn't smile until they were fighting and then she was excited! I just don't even know what to make of these people. Can't wait to see what the Entertainment Weekly guy says about this show!

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 10:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You all really should go to EntertainmentWeekly.com and read the write up for the show. This guy is hilarious and he is dead on!

Azlen
Member

08-27-2000

Tuesday, May 04, 2004 - 11:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here it is if you don't have AOL or a issue of EW.

by Josh Wolk Entertainment Weekly

There is no more effective juxtaposition than seeing ''The Real World'' nitwits frolic in Greece to really highlight how low we've dipped as a society. Witness the civilization that gave us poetry and drama and philosophy… as a drunk septet stumbles across it, their pinhead antics videotaped for mass viewership. Even Caligula would think this bunch was trashy.

I'm still reeling from the San Diego troupe's May 4 vacation video. I wondered why the show seemed to whiz through the sights -- Here's Athens, here's the Acropolis, quick, off to Santorini -- but it quickly became clear that this episode had far more pressing things to address. Those ruins will be there forever, these dopes are screaming NOW!

Frankie was a pill from the moment she stored her bag in the overhead compartment, and upon arriving, she managed to sigh throughout most of Greece. Would she have perked up if she was taught the story of Punkrates, the inventor of the scrotum piercing? She did take time out of her busy sulking schedule to suck whipped cream off of Cameran's belly in a bar, but hey, a gal's gotta eat.

On a drunken night in Santorini, Brad and Cameran ended up making out in the hot tub, until she broke away, saying, ''I'm not gonna make out with you anymore''… and that was the last thing that made sense for the rest of the episode.

I will try to reconstruct the subsequent events, but it is difficult to think straight as I'm still suffering from a contact hangover. A drunk Robin grew angry that Cameran lost their room key, and began spluttering weeks-old complaints about her. Everyone started screaming at each other, driving a weeping Cameran to stand in the corner, as if reenacting the final scene of ''The Blair Witch Project.'' Suddenly, miraculously, Frankie cheered up. It turns out that causing other people's misery is Frankie's Prozac. Witness:

First, Frankie told Brad that Robin takes the blame for everything Cameran does (like NOT punching random guys in bar lines?), and then eloquently told Robin that if anyone tells her she was to blame for the night's argument, she should tell them to ''f--- the f--- off.'' Boy, if Frankie's snake-farming career goals fall apart, she can always get a job ghostwriting for David Mamet.

But a minute later, she was pulling Cameran aside to tell her that everybody hated her… while simultaneously reassuring her that Robin was a crazy . Cameran got increasingly disoriented the more Frankie tried to talk her through a nonexistent problem: I guess that's what happens when someone treats you like they're talking you down from a bad acid trip, and you're not on acid. It's the mental equivalent of somebody putting thick glasses on you when you have 20/20 vision.

Then came a flurry of drama that I'm glad Sophocles wasn't around to see. Brad and Frankie were screaming about how she was clearly just fueling the fires (how crazy is Frankie? She made me take Brad's side!), and then suddenly, in flew Robin, the deus ex drunkina. Fluttering her hand on her heart, she burst into tears as she ran to Cameran's bed, apologized, embraced her, and pronounced, ''We're just two dumb b----es who love each other.'' (Well, I'll give her the first five words, anyway.) Then she hopped under the covers, fully dressed, and went to sleep. This was a performance that Jennifer Jason Leigh would consider too mannered.

The next morning, Brad and Randy were discussing Frankie's riling performance, and she overheard them. After receiving and misconstruing counsel from her father about being upfront with people, she confronted everyone antagonistically when they were already half-lit in Mykonos. Even by ''Real World'' standards, Frankie had reached new heights of nonsensicality, and yes, I'm including New Orleans' David. Her argument was that everyone should say out loud how they're feeling. But when Randy countered that she had been silently sulking the whole trip, she said, ''I don't give a f--- if you guys know how I feel!''

An interjection here, and be patient, it's relevant: The other day I read an article on AOL news about a scientist who predicted that global warming will cause the polar ice caps to melt, and the resulting rise in ocean levels will submerge much of Florida. On the linked message boards, there were numerous smug postings by people proclaiming that this proved environmentalists were idiots, because if you leave a glass of ice water out, and the cubes melt, the water doesn't overflow, does it? They were so confident that they had disproved all global-warming theory, you could practically taste the burning coal. Of course, their theory missed one critical and obvious point: The polar caps stick out of the water. If you stack ice three inches above the rim of your smoking-gun of a water glass, well, you're gonna have some spillage.

All of this is to say: I would rather sit in a room arguing global warming with these numbskulls for a year straight than have to debate anything with Frankie for five minutes.

Just when you thought things couldn't get any weirder, Frankie intimated that Randy was never sober, and he let loose a rant (which involved the phrase ''treated you with kitten gloves,'' but enough nittenpicking) that culminated in, ''Do not call me an alcoholic, cause then I will cry!'' And don't call him lazy or he'll hold his breath until he passes out! And you don't want to KNOW what happens when you call him late for dinner (but I'll give you a hint -- someone better get Big Rand a new diaper!).

I'm still reeling from this episode, and am not sure what to think, but I do know this: Somewhere up in heaven, Euripides is saying, ''Man, sometime in the past 2,500 years, entertainment really jumped the shark.''


Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 1:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROFL - That article was better than any show I've seen this season! I guess I should have been actually reading the EWs that come here and I would have seen these gems. Thanks for posting!

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Robin and Frankie are the drama queens by far of this show - can't wait to see how they interact with CORAL on the next challenge show!! I have to giggle just thinking of that! Cameran seems to be the catalyst for them as they both seem to be incredibly jealous of her. Do you think it is because of her looks or because she is actually SANE?

Frogichik
Member

06-11-2002

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 5:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Azlen for posting that! Reading the review is more entertaining than watching the actual show.

Essence
Member

01-12-2002

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep, that review was much more entertaining than the actual show. I was starting to wonder if Jacquese and Jamie had even made the trip to Greece, it was half way through the show before they showed either of them. How funny was it when Jacquese wiped out on the moped and jumped right up laughing. He is a breath of fresh air on this show, and how does he get rewarded? They don't show him.

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
isn't that sad Essence?
I love Jacquese. He is funny and seems to be grounded. How did he even get picked for this show????


I still love when Brad was picked up by the police and Ja was making all the calls to find out what they needed to do.
Then he comes out of the room with "Free Brad" on his shirt and started chanting how - he will not sleep; will not eat - until Brad is free!
roflmao

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jamie and Jacquese are way too normal for this crew. Notice that you really didn't even see them when all this Frankie/Robin drama was going on - they know enough to steer clear, good for them!