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Archive through April 13, 2004

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Cablejockey
Member

12-27-2001

Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched, and found it disturbing in some areas. I get the feeling that these women are almost taken hostage by the show and the doctors. The fact that they cannot look in a mirror, just doesn't feel right. That women who was having second thoughts before the surgery, was right in having them---this is surgery after all, things can go wrong ala Olivia Goldsmith. Yet she was made to look foolish and wimpish for thinking about backing out. The doctors seemed too glib about the surgery and the painful after effects. We may end up thinking that looking perfect will not guarantee happiness. I cannot see any of these women feeling any better about themselves once the shine fades from their makeovers.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Saturday, April 10, 2004 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who was that one doctor that said something to the effect that this was HIS project (on one of the women). Then he kind of added in something like, "oh yea, and the rest of the Swan team too." I felt like he was thinking, "they really didn't do much, I did it all. But I have to acknowledge them so they don't raise a stink."

I admit I was watching the show in passing, cause Mom was in the process of getting up at the time. And I was back and forth in her room helping her out. So my perception of that may be all wrong.

Both those women were like, "is that really me?" I think it would be disconcerting to look in a mirror and not recognize the woman looking back at me at all.

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think you're all beautiful :-)

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Cablejockey, I had many of the same feelings.. overcontrolling and not nearly as responsible as the team on Extreme Makeover.. at least on EM they seem to include the patients every step of the way.

The Swan leaves me with a queasy feeling deep in the pit of my stomach.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh and Ketchup.. I know I'm gorgeous, being shaped like a Ketchup bottle and all :-)

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So that's why I'm not all that glamorous! I'm shaped more like a mustard bottle myself!

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2004 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We should go out for a burger, Who!!

snortle!

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 1:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Sea! You're too much.

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Sea! Now all we need is someone who's shaped like pickels and onions!

snortle too!

Auntiemike
Member

09-17-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hey, how about one shaped like a mayo jar! LOL

Can I go out with you too???

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Seamonkey are you squeezeable? :-)

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, indeed, KL :-)


Auntie.. yes, bring your mayo self along for the ride :-)


Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Looks like we're making a pretty good burger!

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i'm squeezable! just like a big ole roll of ultra charmin toilet paper! and round like that too!

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh boy! Is anybody else gonna watch tonight's epi?

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'll tape it. Don't know when I'll be able to watch it though.

Auntiemike
Member

09-17-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, I had to scroll up to the top of the page to re-read the actual topic for this....I got so caught up in the food marathon!

Oh yes, is there an episode on tonight? I guess I'd better check the TV listings.

mmmmmmm, sure am hungry though. Wonder where that came from?

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It is on tonight, hrm.. don't have it set to record.. guess I should consider it but I think I was so turned off last time, I unset it.. but not much is happening on tv tonight.. Just Everwood and RW/RR challenge so I suppose..

I know!! I have some large juicy hebrew national franks (or farmer john or something) in the freezer and some buns and of course some mustard, ketchup and mayo and that is starting to sound good.. eeeek..

Landi
Member

07-29-2002

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i'm gonna watch it. probably gonna watch every episode.

Ladydewtel
Member

07-18-2002

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
has anyone noticed that the hostess is the same one from Paradise Hotel?

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
from what I've seen so far, I think the hair, makeup, and tight-"uplifting" dresses make the biggest difference.
I barely notice the surgical procedures done - beyond the nose job.

I look vastly different when I'm home with no makeup, hair unkempt, and no bra!

Tobor7
Member

07-19-2002

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 10:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched this show.
I'll be brutal.

Too bad they didn't give them personality transplants as well.

Too bad the AFTER picture has makeup and hair. To be fair they should both be WITH or WIHOUT a $1,000 hair and makeup job. Same outfit, same smile, same lighting.


After watching this show I have 2 questions:

1) WHY? WHY did they make this show?

2) Is low self-esteem a direct result of being ugly and fat OR is being ugly and fat a direct result of having low self-esteem?



Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Monday, April 12, 2004 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"ugly and fat"

God, I'm sick of that being like a compound word.

But, you have a point Tobor. Let's see. My low self esteem probably started when I was 3, and my dad decided he didn't have a kid anymore after the divorce.

Then, by age 6 or so, it was probably because my grandmother called me worthless (as in, quote: "you're no better than that worthless father of your's was.")

I've never known a day in my life that I wasn't fat. And then there was my kinky/frizzy/curly hair to contend with in the days of stick-straight-parted-down-the-middle-Marcia-Brady-hair. Oh, and let's throw in the glasses as another thing the peers loved to pick on.

So, did my low self esteem start when I found out how different and unacceptable I was to my peers? When my father abandoned me, and my grandmother told me I was no better than him? Did I get fat because I relied on comfort food? Maybe. But I think its more like a vicious circle.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 12:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh gag me tonight.. totally unethical to take some woman thinking about divorce and change her body, yeah..

Tobor.. why this show.. rampant GREED.. more procedures done, more gym memberships bought, more people saving for porcelain veneers on their teeth..

Not to mention people not looking away from a train wreck. And I don't mean the women being train wrecks.. I mean the manipulation of them being the train wreck..

ANd then just after they boost them up (complete with underwires, but to be fair, they also had lipo and boob lifts/implants so they will look different even without those structural cages they were jammed into..

Anyway after all that then they get to knock one back to the floor by deeming her still "not good enough".

Conejo
Member

08-23-2002

Tuesday, April 13, 2004 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think these women look like they've had more makeup 'beat' on they're faces than plastic surgery. I'd be suing the plastic surgeons if I were them. IMO I don't think that these women look that much (if any) better after their supposed transformation.

Wouldn't you want to loose weight, diet, etc. before having plastic surgery? This show just seems a little too fake to me.