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Archive through December 10, 2003

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Hermione69

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Babyjaxmom, I really enjoyed your post. It was very thoughtful. I didn't watch the show so I can pipe in with my two cents, but your take on it seemed very genuine. :)

Kizz

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I vote for QE all the way...and NBC and Bravo are sister nets so it could totally happen! He would be awesomely funny with Kyan and Carson and the rest. Maybe they'd even rag on him about Average Joe. Oh PLEEEEEEZE let it happen!

Denecee

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good post Babyjazmom. The only thing I want to add is that I didn't get the feeling that Jason was into Melana as much as she was into him. I just felt like he was more into being picked than actually wanting a relationship with her. I could be wrong, but I won't be surprised if these two don't pursue a relationship.

Moondance

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great post MsBabyJ! I agree:)

Max

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I'm glad she didn't pick Adam. He deserves better, IMHO. The more the editing made it look like she'd pick Adam, the more I knew she wouldn't. It's almost become cliche the way the editing tries to misdirect us -- it's gotten to the point that if she WOULD have picked Adam, I would have been suprised since they made it seem like that was what would happen through the show.

I'm glad Adam has a girlfriend now. I bet she's really nice and smart, too.

Jason.... well, I never thought he was that pretty. I agree with those who said Mike was more handsome. I also never got the sense that there was ANY substance to him at all. He seemed vaccuous to me - an empty shell. Of course, that could be the editing, too.

I don't think Melena was really there looking for a lasting relationship. In fact, I doubt that 99% of the people who go on these shows are there for that. They want the fame and the exposure to further their hopes of a career in front of a camera. Fortunately for most of us, their 15 minutes goes by fairly quickly.

Jami

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Regarding his room mate and the apartment not being the ideal residence of a millionaire. I am sure I heard Melena says, "He didn't mention he was rich, he didn't mention he drove a Benz, he didn't mention his house in the Hamptons." So perhaps the apartment is just a place to sllep while in NYC and his "real" home is a house in the Hamptons.

Fruitbat

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
His apartment over looks the river. That is prime real estate in NY and he probably owns it. It looked new so I assume it is a condo in a renovated building and worth 6 figures.

Konamouse

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 2:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What I don't get is how the producers pick the "Average Joes". It seems to me that they aren't very average - more like stereotypes of "below average" (i.e. >130% average weight of a US male or with prominent facial features that make them stand out in a crowd).

I agree that she made the best pick for herself.
I also agree that Adam would be a great straight man for QE (do we need to start a letter writing campaign?)
I refuse to watch the second go around - she looks prettier but I can't watch real people get humiliated any more than Fear Factor already provides.

'squeek'

Awareinva

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
DH and I both agreed after last night's tedious repetitious 2 hour snore fest that we won't be watching the next edition. In our opinion they left the "average joe" premise when they twisted in the hunks.

Probably could have stood the long drawn out (could have been done in an hour) finale, and even her picking the "hunk". What bugged me was that she was obviously coached to be sober and serious with Jason until telling him that he was it, and to be smiley and laughing with Adam until she dropped "da bomb".

You could pinpoint the exact moment when his heart broke , saddest thing I ever saw!! She totally set him up to think he was it, got him really thrilled, then told him she picked Jason. That was just cruel. And then to have him sit on the bus having to watch them make out and fly off to paradise-- tacky, tacky tacky.

The editing was so obvious that they wanted us to believe it was Adam so they could shock us.... the "diamond in the rough" comment for instance. I told DH that I must be too used to Mark Burnett/Survivor, but I could tell it was Jason from about the first 45 minutes.

But overall I think she did pick the guy who was right for her.... you could tell she had an attraction for Jason (and Zach) that she didn't have for Adam. I think someone said earlier, she wanted to like him, recognized he was a great catch, but the spark just wasn't there. Obviously not there with Jason either if she hadn't seen him in 7 months, but better off for Adam in the long run I guess. As I said, we watched for curiosity once (like Joe Millionaire) but can't see it being worth my time for a second repetitious go round. Of course, they probably stacked it to make sure the girl picks the Average Joe this time and that's why they did a second edition so quick, but still.... don't see it keeping my attention second time around.

Bastable

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, she had an attraction for Jason and not much of one for Adam. But I believe it's mostly because Jason is hot. To me, that made her choice shallow. I don't doubt that she felt attraction. I doubt the root of that attraction.

I think sometimes we choose people who will make us feel better about ourselves. She may not be ready to pick a husband and nest yet--or she would have chosen Adam. She needs a pretty boy to confirm her self esteem.

Hippyt

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think this is gonna be like the second Joe Millionaire. A HUGE drop in ratings for the second edition.

Hummingbird

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She picked a guy she will have to take care of instead of one who would have taken care of her. She picked a man who is prettier than she is! They will be fighting over all the grooming products the mirror. Adam will have no trouble finding someone better. I hope we see more of him.

Hummingbird

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
*and the mirror!

Nathalia

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This may have been mentioned before but did anyone else think that Adam reminded them of Adam Sandler???

Just saw Melena and Jason on Access Hollywood..where she said he has no money and neither does she. (guess they are perfect for each other then?)

I think she saw Adam as someone who was expecting a committment (marriage) from her and she is not ready for that. Whereas Jason,who still lives at home,and is attending school... is not ready therefore perfect.

IMO she is/was just looking for fame. Especially since already being on that other "reality" show..Meet My Parents. Jason lives in CA..closer to her ambitions. Maybe she can rent a room in his Mom's house? lol

Enbwife

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I cried when she picked Jason - He's SO boring! Adam is fun and cool. Wouldn't it be excellent if they made Adam the next Bachelor??? :)

Fruitbat

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw him on CNN this evening. He wouldn't do a show where he had to eliminate anyone. Good interview with Anderson Cooper. Adam is fine and has a woman in his life. He said people have been calling him non stop at all hours. He must have a new number by now. Neat guy.

Sunshyne4u

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
AwareInVa- When Melena talked about a "diamond in the rough" I assumed it was Jason she was talking about. Its funny how we all have different perspectives.
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Great Idea for the Fab Five to visit Adam!! Wow doesnt he NEED it!? ha ha As for his current girlfriend, I would love to know how recent and or serious it is. There is no way that you'd want to say that you were still single after a show like this aired. It would be too embarrassing and makes you look like a loser if you had no one. Just my Opinion.

Seamonkey

Tuesday, December 09, 2003 - 11:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Too late, but what I'd change is to have her meet the "AverageJoes" and then give them makeovers.. doesn't have to be drastic.. along the Queer Eye lines just for dressing and haircuts and perhaps some charm school type tips.. THEN they will each feel more polished up, thus more confident.

Lose the hunks.

Dogdoc

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 6:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How was Adam able to have a girl friend before the show was over? Didn't they have act like a contestant till the last show? Didn't Melena and Jason have to stay away from each until it was over?

Ryn

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 8:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Melana and Jason were supposed to be on Leno last night I thought - did anyone catch it??

Rslover

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, it is so funny when they appear together. She does all of the talking and he basically just sits back. Though, he did say he doesn't live at home anymore. She did say (on another show) that they could not meet at all during the past seven months. Kind of makes you wonder if they are still a couple. I don't know why the producers wouldn't let them meet discreetly like the other shows do.

Ryn

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"She does all of the talking and he basically just sits back."

Why does this not surprise me? ;)

Oh.. I know - cause thats about all he did on the show!!! :)

thanks!!

Rslover

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
TV GUIDE POLL

Did Melana choose the right guy on Average Joe?

No. Adam was charming and rich. How could she pass that up?
77%

Yes. Melana and Jason had chemistry from the moment they met.
23%

Enbwife

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"She does all of the talking and he basically just sits back."

Sounds like another Reality Show couple I watch (getting married tonight)!!!

Rslover

Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tareq will be on MISMATCH next Monday.