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Seamonkey

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They do. Ratings and advertising dollars.

Hippyt

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All I have to say is I was so glad she finally got to see what a jerk Zach is. I just knew he wouldn't be able to keep his nasty mouth shut. Bye,bye!

Tishala

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL. DUFF. I'd never heard that before. That's almost as good as MILF.

Pbnj

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 3:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hopefully, auntie mike, you didn't 'get' that *I* thought Malena was/is perfect...there's no such thing but what I was saying is that she's not unattractive...that's the point of the whole show...to put what most everyone thinks is attractive with what is normally seen as nerdy average types...yep, like it or not, we're all judgemental. I think that includes me LOL I guess I sometimes 'think' it rather than do the locker room talk. I just think it showed the double standard is all.

If you have followed this thread, I made it clear I think 'average' looking people are more interesting and have more personality than most 'perfect' people. They have to work harder to be accepted but that also gives them character. I just found it ironic that the guys didn't want to be judged as average or 'less than' but they did it with 'Danielle' That's all I was saying...if that offended you, I'm sorry, I think

btw, after reading the transcript that Lori posted, I don't think Adam said anything all that offensive....Zach did tho, again, IMO

Brenda1966

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, good one Pantageas! I really don't fault the guys much for not warming up to Danielle because they didn't get to spend time with her. Melena did spend a little time with the fat guys but still got rid off them early on.

It's not that Adam's comments weren't "bad", they were in keeping with his sense of humor and didn't have the rudeness that Zach's did.

What's a MILF?

Tishala

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
MILF is "mom I'd like to f---"

Pantageas

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Brenda, it reminds me of an old joke I heard about how Sirhan Sirhan once said at a parole hearing that RFK would have supported his parole. The punchline goes "Great! The one guy who'd be on your side...and you SHOT him!".

I just think it's funny that the guys who would most likely have been accepting of the cheerleader-cum-chubbette costume...were the first ones she sent home!! And the ones she kept...kinda exhibit the same preferences SHE showed...just a little more derogatory and vocal about it. Que sara sara!

Auntiemike

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pbnj: No offense taken. I just have all sorts of excuses today for not responding responsibly, maturely, etc. Sickness will do that to you. I am a "perfect" person in a very imperfect body and can only hope to achieve perfection when I go to Heaven...not possible here on earth! LOL

I can only keep up with these threads sporadically as I'm busy parenting four young children (and I'm no spring chicken myself), two which are special needs (feels like six children sometimes.) Plus, hubby is working all sorts of extra hours; there goes my support system.

I appreciate you and all the posters here.

Kappy

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
" . . can only hope to achieve perfection when I go to Heaven . . "

On the contrary, Auntimike . . The great thing about the internet is that it is one place we can be "perfect" because no one will ever know otherwise!

What always bugged me most about Zach was his continual reference to this being a game and how to win the game rather then about this being a chance to start a possible relationship with another human being. And his reaction at getting cut last night just proved that. He was angry and cussing because he lost the game, not because he had lost a chance with Melana. I truly think that if he had won, and then she later saw all the tapes that we did, she would have been horrified at his treatment of some of the other guys in the game way back at the beginning. I'm just glad there was a setup for her to see a little more of his true self before she ended up picking him. And I do think it would have been between him and Adam had he not made those comments about Danielle.

I think she was as hurt as she was by Zach's comments because she really wanted him in the final two and was disappointed to learn that he might be the jackass she had been warned about.

Anyways, as far as her cutting out guys in the first week because of looks, I thought she was extremely generous in who she kept around. And when she did finally cut them, personality was a big factor wether the guys wanted to admit that or not.

Catfat

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi Auntie Mike, I was in Jeanine's (sp) store yesterday. Her business is doing great, in spite of the walls almost tumbling down around her ears.

Eliz87

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 9:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still can't figure out why she got rid of Mike. It doesn't seem like he said anything bad about "Danielle," unless it was edited out. I thought Adam was being pretty darned nasty about Danielle -- not as nasty as Zach, but still...

Anyway, I think it will be Adam in the end.

Konamouse

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i still think that Melena is just doing this for the exposure, and isn't going to stay with anyone she picks. so it really won't matter in the end. too bad, because the Average Joes might be taking it more seriously than she is (about hooking up).

'squeek'

Catfat

Tuesday, December 02, 2003 - 11:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK, you are down to the final two. The only ones left are a hunky male model, young-acting, who still lives with his Mom, even though he is 27; or a guy who is a self-made zillionaire, has a sense of humour, needs a little grooming, and is not at all gorgeous but is way above geeky.
I know I'd go for Adam any time.

Mack

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I fail to see a "love match" with Melena and not sure that's where she was going in the first place. All in all she's been decent to the guys and that's nice as this could have been really ugly. Like to see her pick Adam as at least recognition of the common man.

Max

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No contest. It would be Adam for sure for me. The other guy looks pretty, but there's no THERE there, if you get my drift. A good kisser can only take me so far, after that, I need good conversation that doesn't include discourse on the latest fashion spread in GQ.

I agree with those who say that there is no love match here, though. Maybe she and Bob from The Bachelor can get together and compare notes on how far their participation in these shows extends their 15 minutes of fame. I think that's all either of them was after.

Jasper

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She should pick Adam to date, they seem to have a good time together, and Jason seems a little vacant from what we have seen, she keeps saying he's pretty, I can't really see it, seems average, Mike was cuter.

The only comment I heard Adam say about Danielle was that she looked like "fat Monica" from Friends. Mike did comment on lap dances but I think she cut him just because there was nothing there.

Thanks for doing the poll game.

Gina8642

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jason looks like the guy from Party of Five - Scott Wolf? (played Bailey). Very cute in a Tiger Beat kinda way, but not terribly manly.

Aside from a lot of attributes, I've always considered ambition to be an important and attractive attribute. You don't necessarily need to be ambitiious to make a million dollars. You might be ambitious to run the best soup kitchen, or research an important topic, but ambition is important. Adam seems to win the ambition catagory. Making your own business and employeeing many others vs living on your looks and living at Mom and Dads'?

Pbnj

Wednesday, December 03, 2003 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
you got that right Gina....ambition is a lot more attractive than looks IMO...laziness or living with mom and dad is just a red flag that he may be who you come home to after a hard day's work if you marry him because modeling will only last so long (maybe till he's 30 IF he's lucky...from what I've heard anyway)

and yes! Jason does look like Scott Wolf! I couldn't place it but knew it was some actor he reminded me of....

and auntie mike.....you're funny, yep, perfection will happen when we're dead! LOL excuses work for me!

Jasper

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
lol Tiger Beat kinda way! Perfect description. He actually reminds me of an Irish actor on Coronation Street, Keith Duffy, he was in one of those boy bands with Robby Williams I think. Can't remember the name of the band.

Pattie555

Thursday, December 04, 2003 - 11:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One day they will do one of these shows when there's a hot guy and lot's of average women.
Average Jane ?

Marymc

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
best quote i ever heard was, "you see a lot of smart men with a dumb woman, but you never see a smart woman with a dumb man."

unfortunately, same goes for looks....average guy & hot girl, but never hot guy with average girl.

Gina8642

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess we'll see, but I think there's a pretty decent chance this is the twist will see for the next average joe.

Admin

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Does anyone know what Adam's relation to Fortune Magazine is? What are those Fortune magazines framed on his wall for?

Admin

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm...from what I saw on TV (I freezed the part where they show the magazine), I think his framed magazine is from the year 2000, check it here http://www.fortune.com/fortune/mostadmired/allstars#2001

Azlen

Friday, December 05, 2003 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fortune did an article about Adam's company. Someone posted a link to the article further up the thread.