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Danzdol
Member

05-15-2003

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It was an interesting show. My husband who is a lawyer did say that it was bs that Robin got arrested over just that. Why would MTV not show everything that did happen? They don't ever hold back...

Those people were definetaly harrassing them. They even said "go back to the Fake World" so they knew they were with RW taping.

Frankie has a lot of issues. I only hope that being on this show and seeing herself on tape is a wake up call for her and that she gets much needed help.

Deesandy
Member

09-27-2003

Wednesday, January 28, 2004 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I heart Jacquees!

Laura11103
Member

08-13-2002

Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mamie, it looked from the previews like Frankie's gonna lose her b/f before she even gets home. She's obviously one of those girls that when drunk HAS to have male attention, doesn't matter really from who, I can never remember that guy's name, but I thought him and Robin were getting involved... he sure wasn't worried about her that night and he didn't seem to mind Frankie's passes, he was hillarious that night.

So what is with Frankie anyway? Has it been 100% confirmed that she has cystic fibrosis? She sure doesn't seem to take very good care of herself, maybe she's just a hypochondriac?

Reader234
Member

08-13-2000

Thursday, January 29, 2004 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My dumb question was, why didnt anyone (producers, camera people) let the realworlders know where robin was? Yes, I know they dont, and yet I keep remembering the Hawaii intervention sessions, I just had so many problems with this episode, its not even funny!!

Love Jacq, what a classy guy!! (my mom cant swim, so I could sympathize with his life jacket)

Puttergirl
Member

03-04-2003

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Found this on the Smoking Gun (http://www.thesmokinggun.com)

"SEPTEMBER 4--MTV, always on the cutting edge of reality television programming, probably can't wait to air episodes of the next "Real World" series, which is now filming in southern California. That's because one of the show's female participants--a 23-year-old Florida bartender--just got arrested for assaulting a Marine (!) while she partied and filmed in a San Diego nightclub. Cops busted Robin Hibbard after she allegedly punched and scratched Derek Porter, a 29-year-old Leatherneck, during the bar altercation. Porter, who refused a police offer of medical treatment, suffered several six-inch scratches, said Bill Robinson, a San Diego police spokesman. Hibbard, who told officers that she was a "Real World" cast member, was charged with misdemeanor battery and spent about nine hours in the Las Colinas women's jail before making bail. It is unclear what triggered the altercation between Porter and Hibbard, who is pictured above in action at Tampa's Coyote Ugly. Robinson, who told TSG that Hibbard and some friends came to the bar with a camera crew and told patrons they were filming for the popular MTV program, would only release the face page of the police report, which you'll find below. When contacted by TSG, Porter declined to answer questions about the incident. (1 page)"

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yay - The Smoking Gun strikes again
Thank you for posting that.

I wonder if the fact that the Marine refused any medical attention will make a difference in the case?

Is there a difference between battery and assault? (when it comes to charges)


Legalboxer
Member

11-25-2003

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
people always get assault mixed up with battery-

assault is the intent to cause harm, as in you see someone throwing a book at you-

battery is the actual unwanted contact - so if the book actually hits you, that is battery - also even something as mundane as someone touching your shoulder can be called battery if it was unwanted..

to try to put it in simple examples:
if the book was thrown at you and missed, it would just be assault,

if the book was thrown at you and hit you, it would be assault AND battery

but if the book was thrown across the room and you happened to walk in as it was thrown and it hit you, it would be battery but not assault because it was not initially meant to hit you,

not sure if those "simple answers" make sense but the actual definitions are (according to hyperdictionary)

Assault: a threatened or attempted physical attack by someone who appears to be able to cause bodily harm if not stopped

battery: an assault in which the assailant makes physical contact


Puttergirl
Member

03-04-2003

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Either way, I can't believe that that sissy marine felt that a light playful punch from a girl was worth an assualt and/or battery charge. He just wanted his 15 minutes, but at what cost? He'll be laughed out of the locker room!!!

Puttergirl
Member

03-04-2003

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This article from http://walttv.tbo.com/walttv/MGAL4CU23PD gives alot more details and makes it seem that there was further contact after the one MTV showed us. It also says that her court appearance where she pled "no contest" was filmed. I guess it will be on a later episode.

"MTV's New `Real World' With Tampa Woman Resembles `Law & Order'- WALT BELCHER- Published: Jan 6, 2004

The 14th season of ``The Real World'' arrives at 10 tonight on MTV with the spotlight on a Tampa woman in the cast. During the taping of the 25-episode series in San Diego last fall, Robin Hibbard of Tampa was arrested on charges of punching and scratching a Marine in a beach bar following an argument.

Hibbard, a dancing bartender at Coyote Ugly Saloon in Ybor City, is one of seven people, ages 19 to 23, who shared a beach pad for three months on the latest edition of the reality series.

Hibbard, who has been on hiatus from Coyote Ugly, is due back at work tonight. She could not be reached for comment.

Her MTV biography says, ``You would never believe she was student body president, a cheerleader and a sorority sister.''

Reportedly a fun-loving person, Hibbard spent a night in jail and is on probation, having pleaded no contest to misdemeanor battery. The Sept. 2 altercation with Marine Derek Porter, 29, happened during a cast outing at Moondoggie's Bar. It was recorded by a ``Real World'' crew, but MTV isn't disclosing what will be shown.

Cameras also recorded Hibbard's court appearance in November. Producers told the judge the event offered ``an excellent opportunity for millions of young viewers who have never seen the inside of a courtroom to get an idea of how the judicial system really works.''

Hibbard, 23, was given three years of unsupervised probation. After one year, she can apply to clear her record.

Court records indicate Porter was in line at the entrance of Moondoggie's when Hibbard and other cast members approached, and soon the two were arguing. It's not clear what they were arguing about. Hibbard allegedly punched Porter in the arm before being pulled away, according to police reports.

She returned and apologized to Porter, who told her to go away. After he turned his back, Hibbard scratched him, police said. She spent the night in jail before posting bail.

In September, then-Coyote Ugly general manager Adam Milligan told the Tribune that Hibbard said the Marine was heckling her and other cast members and she pushed him to get away. ``She's a very good person who wouldn't get in a fight,'' Milligan said.

In an unrelated incident - and much more troubling for this round of ``The Real World'' - San Diego police are investigating a woman's claim that she was raped in the three-story house the seven cast members shared. Neither the woman nor the alleged assailant in the November incident was a member of the cast, but the alleged assailant is a friend of a cast member.

The woman told police she met the man at a nightclub, accepted a drink from him and woke up the next day in a guest bedroom in the ``Real World'' house. According to court documents, she was found naked and unconscious and there is evidence someone had sex with her. No arrests have been made."


Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
To continue on Puttergirl's posted article, here is an article regarding the alleged rape:

http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=2035
(there is a link to the Smoking Gun within the article)

It was interesting to read how BMP was handling it (just a snippet from the article):

The police talked to Kevin Lee, the on-site producer of The Real World: San Diego. Lee claimed that he had not viewed the footage but that, after talking to several cast members, he believed the young woman might have been sexually assaulted, and he confirmed that Justin was resident in the house at the time of the alleged assault. Of course, none of this motivated him to look at the film or to use the on-site film-editing computer to review the incident, let alone contact the cops.

The police asked Lee for the consent forms and photo ID cards that listed who was in the house at the time of the incident, and he agreed to supply him with the forms and to allow the police to search the bathroom for evidence. He also gave the police a tour of the premises.

At the end of the tour, however, Lee received a phone call from Pam Naughton, an attorney representing BMP's "Real World Productions" arm. Naughton refused to permit the police to search the bedrooms and also stated that the producers would not turn over any documents or film until she personally reviewed them.
At that point, the police were left with no choice but to seek a search warrant. In the subsequent raid on the house, police hauled off the film-editing computer, the cast's e-mail computer, bedding, towels, videotapes and other possible evidence of the events of the evening in question.


Wonder what else will take place? Perhaps drug trafficking on the boats?

Wilsonatmd
Member

10-09-2002

Friday, January 30, 2004 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Im posting this news to all the current B/M shows....since it's applicable to all. Very sad...

http://www.tvweek.com/news/web013004.html

Mary-Ellis Bunim Dead at 57

Mary-Ellis Bunim, considered the matriarch of reality television, has died. She and partner Jonathan Murray were the heads of Bunin-Murray Productions.

Among the credits Ms. Bunin has created over the years are "The Real World," "Road Rules," "The Love Cruise," "Making the Band," "The Real World Road Rules Challenge," the reality feature film "The Real Cancun," the real-life daytime syndicated hour "Starting Over," and most recently Fox's smash "The Simple Life," starring Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie.

Ms. Bunim's career in television began with soap operas, before agent Mark Itkin of the William Morris Agency put her together with Mr. Murray, whose background was in TV news. Merging the documentary nature of news and the dramatic intrigue of soap operas, Bunim-Murray hatched an innovative idea for a dramatic series featuring real people rather than actors. That series became MTV's "The Real World," which effectively marked the beginning of the reality television genre.

"Mary-Ellis was a one-in-a-million partner and friend, and I will always treasure our incredible years of collaboration. Even as the family at Bunim-Murray Productions mourns her loss, we will honor her memory by remaining committed to her ideals of creativity, adventure and excellence, both on the screen and in our lives," Mr. Murray said.

Ms. Bunim died of cancer Thursday in Los Angeles. She was 57. She is survived by her daughter, Juliana.

Bananaclip
Member

09-18-2002

Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 1:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for posting that Wilson. What a shock. I've never saw a picture of her but I always marveled at how many times I saw her name on many shows. How sad.

Scorpiomoon
Member

02-01-2003

Saturday, January 31, 2004 - 2:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow. How incredibly sad.

Lauram
Member

07-13-2000

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It was nice that they paid a tribute to her after the showing of Real World last night.

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
thoughts anyone on the episode???

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just an FYI on the Robin incident... Moondoggies is notorious for out of control people. Located in Pacific Beach, it's a bar that is generally "watched" closely by police (yes, they even hang out watching people leave the bar late at night). The police are VERY strict about bad behavior there. If Robin punched and scratched someone, no matter who that person was, she would've been arrested. Basically, it's an almost no tolerance policy down there. (Pacific Beach bars are major hangouts for the young crowd. And they -- the crowds -- get out of hand quite often.)

Lauram
Member

07-13-2000

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Frankie needs some real help! This is 2 times in what ... a month that she gets drunk, gets affectionate with other guys, doesn't remember what happened, and then calls her boyfriend. I can see him being understanding maybe once, but there seems to be a problem here.

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just an FYI on the Robin incident... Moondoggies is notorious for out of control people. Located in Pacific Beach, it's a bar that is generally "watched" closely by police (yes, they even hang out watching people leave the bar late at night). The police are VERY strict about bad behavior there. If Robin punched and scratched someone, no matter who that person was, she would've been arrested. Basically, it's an almost no tolerance policy down there. (Pacific Beach bars are major hangouts for the young crowd. And they -- the crowds -- get out of hand quite often.)

Lauram
Member

07-13-2000

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"Hello. This is an emergency. My name is Jaquese. I'm Robin's room-mate."

"Your name is what?

This had me laughing. My 1st thought was OMG you never call a girls dad and start the conversation "This is an emergency." Then when dads response was OK let's get your name straight, then tell me of the emergency. Very funny. (I'm sure he is a great dad and I am only laughing because it goes to show how we all react odd in difficult situations)

Sillycalimomma
Member

11-13-2003

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I personally am not buying the whole "i don't remember" routine from Frankie. I think she has some inner conflicts and then when she gets drunk of course all goes out the window. Then she feels bad, realizes her bf will see the show and her actions and therefor she tries to backpeddle and save her a$%.

Deesandy
Member

08-12-2003

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with Puttergirl about the sissy marine. I wonder why he is an ex-marine now...could it be because the boys were picking on him and he couldn't take it, so he had to take it out on a girl?

Queenfish
Member

07-24-2002

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
sillycalimoma, I think you are right on the money.I think the whole, I don't remember thing is just an act. Frankie's like a cat in a liter box trying to cover up its "you know what."

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree about Frankie too. If she doesn't remember anything, why is she assuming she fooled around with one of the guys?

Not1worry
Member

07-30-2002

Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Because Frankie needs attention. And when everyone was going to jail and she wasn't getting enough attention, she had to call her BF and practically make him break up with her. Then to go fling herself on Brad and create a scene - but refuse to talk about it. It's painful for me to watch someone that needy. She called someone she loves with news she knew he would be upset about, and then gets hysterical when he reacts in the expected way. The wise thing to do would have been to shut up and not even mention it. But then no one would be feeling sorry for her. He's going to expect the worst if she can't provide him with any solid info other than "I blacked out".

I didn't want to like Jacqueese, based on some of his comments, but he has won me over the last 2 episodes. So far I haven't seen Jamie do anything but look amazed or confused.

Ohiomobprincess
Member

11-07-2003

Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I haven't really liked a Real World cast since Miami. These people are so predictable. All of them need attorneys and psychologists LOL. I'm still going to watch, but it's really no fun anymore.

I agree with everyone's comments about Frankie. She's smart enough to CHA (cover her a$$), but not smart enough to stop drinking to the point of blacking out. I'm sure we'll see some type of intervention soon.