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Lauram
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07-13-2000

Thursday, February 12, 2004 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
oh Mware that is perfect!!!!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, February 13, 2004 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL!!!

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Monday, February 16, 2004 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Brian Worth has gotten on my nerves since the first show when he said "Hawaaaya". That accent is almost like fingernails on a chalkboard.

But, after tonight's show, I can see why she's kept him around. I think he's definitely pulling her heartstrings.

But, call me a cynic, I still don't think she'll pick a Joe.

Eliz87
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07-30-2001

Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed her reasoning for booting Tony tonight. Anyone else know why? Seems like they got along so well.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eliz87: Larissa said, beyond art, her and Tony had nothing in common. She also said he was too serious all the time. She wanted someone who she could laugh with and who saw the "brighter side" of things. She thought Tony needed to lighten up.

Eliz87
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07-30-2001

Monday, February 16, 2004 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Aah...I see. (Can't say that I disagree with her!) Thanks!!

Lauram
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07-13-2000

Monday, February 16, 2004 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what hunk did she let go?

Dee
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08-08-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Michael was let go.

I fell asleep for about 20 mins and missed what the guys said about Larissa's "mom". Please help!

When Larissa let Michael go, she said it would be no surprise and he agreed. What did he say?

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
During the questions with the "mom" and her friend when he was asked what was the least attractive physical thing about a woman to him, he said something to the effect of, "someone who is lazy and doesn't take care of themselves physically." INSERT FOOT, BITE HARD! He did apologize when he realized what he had said in front of Larissa's "bigger sized mom" and never meant to insult her, but on the hidden camera tape he was caught saying that that he didn't know if he would be attracted to Larissa if she was heavy. She said she didn't mind that he said how he felt, but didn't like how he said it. I was thinking afterward how ironic it is that she got rid of all the "heavy" joes. Seems she's not quite attracted to someone who is overweight either! I think she said something about not liking how he implied that someone who was overweight was lazy. Also, they didn't show what any of the other guys said, except for I believe Fredo telling Mike he might as well have taken a rope and hang himself after that comment.

I missed the beginning when she was was out with him and just came back in to see her doing some major kissing with him! For someone who has such a good "heart" and is regreting judging people at first sight, she sure does have a LOT easier time really making out with the hunks!!

Tony thought the only reason he was eliminated was because the other guys were better looking than him. He was really shocked and hurt because he thought they really "clicked" and if she was telling the truth about having a good time w/him and they had some much in common, then he shouldn't have been eliminated. When she was talking to the "joes" on their group date, she wasn't too thrilled to see that Tony was still upset about the "boat incident" since she was starting to see the humor in it and thought he needed to lighten up some. I figured he'd be the one going after she said that and it was obvious, Mike was going to be the "hunk" eliminated after his comments about body size.

I still can't help but think that there is a "pot calling the kettle black" here! :-)

Oh yeah, and after tonight - I'm thinking she might pick Fredo over Brian as the final joe. At first I thought it would definitely be Brian, but she and Fredo seemed to click tonight. I also have to agree, his accent is REALLY irritating after a while!

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 1:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, Watch... I was surprised at the last "big" guy she let go... Sean, I think?
He was so sweet and I thought they were hitting it off.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 1:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am surprised!! Brian is staying and Tony has gone??
Once again, it seems to me that Larissa isnt good at interpreting expressions and reading between the lines. Brian looked to me to be trying too hard to say the "right things". He is excellent at making eye contact and seems to rivet her gaze with his eyes.
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Fredo seems to have physical power and size as an advantage.
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Once again, it seems nice guys finish last. Tony was the least aggressive of the three Average Joes left over. I truly thought Larissa liked him best. Guess the producers didnt think he brought enough conflict into the male competition thus less TV moments!! Hope Tony came out of this show with a more positive self image than when he went in. (do ya think they offer the guys counselling?)

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 1:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fredo was the one who made a totally obscene gesture when he first saw Larissa. It is a shame she didn't get to see that footage. I cannot imagine what a guy could be thinking when he meets a beautiful girl, and the second he is behind her back he makes a motion like he is "petting the monkey". That is just plain disrespectful to all women. He should have been gone in the first week. Any man who will make a gesture like that is scum, plain and simple, and does not deserve any further consideration.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 3:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
During the hidden camera footage, Michael said he looks at a woman's mother to get an idea of how the woman will look in 10-15 years. He seemed to think there was a possibility Larissa could look like her mom in the future. But then he seemed to switch gears and talk in present tense and say if she did look like her mom now he would have a really hard time being attracted to her.

WTF? I mean seriously, WTF?

Does Michael know things we don't? Just because a mother and daughter share some genetics does not mean they are going to look the same. And why was he even entertaining the idea of how he would respond to Larissa if she was heavier when, obviously, she's not?

(And since he was speaking about Larissa specifically, isn't that a slap in the face to her to basically say, "Even though I've gotten to know Larissa's personality, if she looked anything like her mother, I'd have a hard time being attracted to her.")

Why couldn't he just come straight out and say, "I'm shallow and I don't apologize for it. I value looks over personality period."

The sad reality is, this little fat suit/hidden camera thing will work every time because there is always one guy in the bunch who will be a "Michael".

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, finally Michael C. couldn't save himself; his big mouth got in the way....again. No matter how sincere a person's apologies are, if they have to apologize over and over again for insensitive things they say then maybe they don't learn really quickly and aren't willing to change and grow.

I am liking Fredo more and more and think he seems pretty secure with who he is. He knows when to listen and when he talks he seems really sincere.

I think that the other average Joe, with the accent, is in love with love. He is so inexperienced with someone like Larissa I think he is in way over his head.

I do like the blong hunk on the other side. He seems genuine and wanting to pursue a relationship with Larissa in a non-self focused way.

I kind of hope she picks him or Fredo.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I typed this once and lost it....hit the wrong button!

I don't think the other guys said anything about "Mom" because Mike was "holding court" like he always seems to be doing and if anyone had said anything to contradict what he was saying he would have had some 'smart' comback...so I think they've learned just to keep quiet.

I find it ironic that Mike and Tony were let go on the same night...after all it was Mike that instagated the "Plunger incident" (although he "APOLOGISED" afterward) and Tony was let go because he couldn't get past it....it might have been interesting to see what would have happened and how much further Tony would have gone if the boat hadn't blown up....and I wonder how Mike feels since he wasn't the last man standing like he was so sure he would be...

And what about last week when Mike said it was a brand new start and he'd take his second chance seriously???? Like that lasted 5 minutes! LOL!

I also had something in my first message about how the "joes" looked at "mom" during the interviews - or at least tried to include her in the conversation...whereas the "hunks" averted their eyes...at least that's what the editing looked like to me.

Ark
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07-10-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm still thinking that she is going to pick one of the good looking guys in the end. She kisses the Average Joes like they are in fourth grade. When she kisses the hunks, she really gets into it. If she really liked one of the Joes, they'd be getting some tongue action too.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No way is she going to pick one of the "Joes." She sees the Joes as friend material, but I don't think she is really attracted to any of them.

I was glad she let Tony go and think she made the right decision. They did have the "art" in common, but she likes to laugh and he's just too serious. I also can't get past the "manscaping" thing going on with his face. Too weird.

I think it'll be Fredo and Jim at the end. Until last night, I thought it would be the blond guy (can't remember his name!), but last night you could tell she really likes Jim. Isn't it ironic that he was the first guy she met on the show? He was the one who stepped out of the limo on the first night and told her he wasn't one of her "dates" before they brought in the busload of AJ's. She definitely has a crush on him.

Mrsa
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11-25-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"tongue action" LOL

I have to agree with you. The hugs with the Average Joes have been like "you're the best friend in the whole, wide world that a gal can have." And with the other guys, Larissa has been flirtatious (sitting on one guy's lap and telling him she has a crush on him) and being kissy face with them. Doesn't seem like the Average Joe's have a chance.

Dee
Member

08-08-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thank you for the update on what I missed. Dang, of all of the times to doze off, it had to be right after the guys met with "Mom"!

Poor Fredo, though. The scenes from next week's episode show Fredo being allowed to "spy" on Larissa on a date with a hunk... and they are doing major mouth action. He was really hurt, watching it.

I like Fredo. I didn't see him doing the monkey thing from the first show... but if I had, I think I could forgive him for it. Alot of guys DO act that way with other guys and it doesn't make them "bad"... plus he could have been nervous, wanting to make a joke or something. Maybe I would have been more upset if he had continued doing that kind of stuff every week, but he really hasn't. Anyway, I don't even think he's that "average". He has a "look" that I like!

I think Larissa did say it was the "lazy" comment that made her axe Mike. It is a sterotype that fat people are lazy. In fact, morbid obesity has now been reclassified as a disease and not a condition. So it's not like fat people just sit on the couch all day, eating bon-bons, pizza and cheetos. But it's hard to get over sterotypes.

Realfan
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08-08-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That preview looks like next week really highlights the difference in her make-out action. She's really going to town on the hunk (Jim?) on the beach. And Fredo's spying on them in a sub! BWAH!! This show is bizarre--it does the things you'd kinda like to see on the Bachelor, like allowing them to spy on each other and sabotage their rivals' dates.

I agreed with her decision about Tony. He never did laugh that I could tell. And of course Mike was a trainwreck.

I don't think she's in love with any of them. Not a one. It's all a game to her (and a TV opportunity).

The Joes probably could look mom in the face more easily because their mom's probably look more similar. Just sayin'.

Butrflynet
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12-29-2003

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting threads ran through the show last night. The Average Joe show is supposed to encourage people to look beyond physical appearance. What I found interesting was that Larissa felt insulted while in her fat suit and sent home the guy who insulted her. Yet, she didn't hesitate to send home the heavy weight guys in the first couple of eliminations.

It's a good opportunity for her to take a look at how she reacted in both instances. It was okay for her to send home the fat guys based on looks but wasn't okay for the guys to comment about her "fatness".

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Butrflynet. Althought she never said anything bad about the heavy guys, she was never rolling around swapping spit with them either!

I guess I'm the lone Michael defender. What he said was: that he would have a hard time being attracted to her if she were "extremely overweight". He didn't say "heavy" or "carrying an extra 10 pounds". He said "extremely overweight". He was the ONLY guy who was honest. Give me a break, "bad hands" and "bad hair" are the least attractive physical features? I think they've all commented on what a hot body she has. Do you think they'd all be drooling over her if she were obese? The "mother" was not obese, just overweight.

Now I do think Michael's answer could have been worded a bit nicer, but I think his unrehearsed and let-it-all-hang-out answers are part of his charm.

Also, his comments about looking at the mother to see what the daughter would look like in the future was just a passing comment about that myth, not that he thought she would end up looking like her mother. (does that make sense? LOL).

I don't think Michael was the right guy for her, but I also don't think he's a creep.

I think she'll pick a hunk too.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I disagree. That "mother" was obese. Larissa had on a fat suit that added 100 lbs. I think she gave Tony a chance, in hopes that she would see another side to him. It looks like Fredo and Jim to me, but of course that could all change after the spying next week. I think she'll pick a hunk too.

Eliz87
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07-30-2001

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm still all about Brian. Yes, his accent is grating but I just love his dry humor!

Lauram
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, February 17, 2004 - 9:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am sure that there is someone out there for Brian. And, I am sure he will make a wonderful companion for someone. But I really don't see him as a match for Larissa. I am amazed that she has kept him around so long. it seems as if Larissa mothers him