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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 9:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
LOL Sea. I know what you mean. When my granddaughter was in 5th grade I got my hug at the door and she went running to her mother screaming, "I'm taller than Grandma!"

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
It will be so good to see those cute kids again.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, May 28, 2010 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Well unfortunately I'm not small, just short! That was one fun thing at the last place I worked because we had a huge number of Vietnamese and Chinese co-workers and I fit right in with many of them, height wise.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Saw Kate on The Today Show (or is it just Today?) She looks really good. She is also just as delusional as ever. To her, the crew is family. Apparently the only family they have (besides each other.) The crew is all men and she has a list of jobs for them to do when they are not filming. They babysit for her too. She ripped on Jon and his girlfriends (why does she not just stick with the advice of if you have nothing nice to say, don't mention Jon's name at all!! I mean he IS the father of those kids!)

She sees nothing wrong at all with putting her kids back in the limelight. She's got to do what all mothers must do, you know!!

But she did look really good. Like her so much better without that crazy short asymmetrical haircut.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
That seems a lot like saying something like "For a fat lady, you don't sweat much"

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
LOL Hukdon!

I find it sad that her "family" are hired, paid to be there. And how nice that they do odd jobs for her! Wonder if that's in the fine print of her contract.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I imagine if you are there all the time, with those 8 adorable kids, you'd develop some affection for them as a family.

As for Kate struggling with the girlfriends, been there, and understand it. As a mother, unless you have been thru it, you have no idea how it torments those children who have not yet healed from the divorce to see daddy moving on, and moving women in and out like a revolving door.

I'd be mad too, for what he's putting the children thru.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to figure out how to see this show ONLY to see the kids, without Kate. I so wish someone would edit a version like that. Wonder if it would be as popular as I suspect?!! :-)

I did read the first half of the show is her and the kids, and the second half is just her talking about her life (I'd rather have bamboo stuck under my fingernails!!). So if I do watch, it will ONLY be the first half. I want to see the kids, but BOY do I NOT want to see any more of Kate!!! Just give me the 8!!!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Just read back. This is my feelings on Jon. He reminds me of friend of mine. I was friends with the husband (I dated his brother for a few years), and to be friends w/a husband you have to be friends w/the wife too. Excuse me while i roll my eyes and stop shaking at the memory. She was demanding, entitled, spoiled rotten, came from a family that had TONS of money then lost it after her Dad died and she never lost her taste for the expensive.

My friend was the nicest guy in the universe and bent over backwards to make her happy. Nothing was ever good enough. No house nice enough, no restaurant fancy enough (and he took her to some of the best). It got progressively worse as the years went on, and I'm simplifying. There were good times, but eventually she sucked the life out of him.

He called me one day to ask to crash on my sofa for a few days. He said he was terrified for the first time in his life he'd lose control and kill her. He was very tall, strong and if it wasn't for his kind nature he physically could have. He realized he HAD to get out that she simply had sucked his soul out and he was about to blow.

I tell this story because I think this is what happened w/Jon and Kate, just that Jon blew a different way. I also think he stayed longer than my friend did, and no longer had friends left to reach out to for help.

I'm not saying his actions after he split from Kate were right in any way, shape or form. I just understand how a person gets the life sucked out of them and blows. He also did complain he was too young and she mocked him. So I think Jon went after what he felt Kate took from him.

But he ALWAYS was a good Dad, even when at his behavior worst. It's why I have some hope he will someday settle down and return to normal, esp if he makes a good friend in some sane person with no agenda. Conversely, Kate is in love with TV, considers crew her family now, and I think she is on a more dangerous path than he is.

As always I'll end with, THOSE POOR KIDS!!!

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<Conversely, Kate is in love with TV, considers crew her family now, and I think she is on a more dangerous path than he is.>

Too true, Lurk. When the "fame" and camera crew eventually disappear as they most likely will, given that she has no talent whatsoever to sustain it and the kids WILL grow up, I think Kate will have a very hard time handling it. And then there's all that potential future hostility from the kids to look forward to. I can see a major depression in her future.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
He's not a good dad now. Perhaps he was only a good dad when Kate was around to keep him in line?

A good dad simply does not subject his children to threats of custody suits (that he doesn't mean), and introduce them to his latest shag. It hurts them.

And I am "like family" with all the people I work with daily also. I regard that as a quality, that the people I work with care about me like family and are there when I need them. I have a very difficult time understanding that as a bad thing....

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It's the idea that it's the "only family they have" that saddens me. Yes, some of my coworkers become like family too, as do my friends, and real family. Kate seems to constantly be lacking in the friends and real family category.

As for Jon, I'm not sure I have a clear picture of how much the kids are seeing him with his latest squeeze. When my friend was a single mom she dated, but he kid never saw the guy. She dated when her child was with the dad. So, it's possible the kids are insulated from it. I don't really know.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
There are photos of him introducing the newest to the kids. As there are with every other one he's dated. And the children are asking about them, so they are not insulated.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Brenda ITA! Plus there's a difference IMHO of being "like family" with people you work with and "being like family" with a crew of people who are HIRED and PAID to work for you on a project. To me it's natural to get close to people you know in all aspects of life. That's reasonable. But when they are paid to be around you, I personally wouldn't trust that, especially since that is ALL Kate seems to have, while having lost ALL her family, all her real life friends etc.

I've long thought it very telling that over the years we met (on the show) all these "dear" family friends. But now Kate isn't in touch with a SINGLE one of them. I've read article after article about it. Yet she's replaced them with hired workers. Something is just not right to me about that. Warning bells are going off in overdrive.

Also, I found it most interesting that nearly all old mutual friends and neighbors had nothing but nice things to say about Jon, but not one good thing to say about Kate. Many were kind enough to say they didn't want to discuss her, but this was after saying how Jon was always kind, respectful and seen playing with the kids. And these are from real life friends and immediate neighbors. If that isn't telling, I don't know what is!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I do think it's a shame that Jon is not insulating the kids. Not to male bash, but I don't think fathers are as careful about this as they should be. (well, on the other hand I've seen mothers drag man after man through their home as they dated... but I think women overall are more sensitive about this than men are).

And yes, Kate seems to burn more bridges than anyone I know. Can't seem to maintain many long term friendships or relationships.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Many long term friendships? Name ONE she has maintained with friends OR family??? Something is just not right there IMHO.

As for insulating the kids, on one hand ITA with you. Part of me does wonder if Kate keeps saying such negative things about the women he is with to the kids that he introduces them so the kids will see they aren't devils. Not to say that is right, but somehow I can see that happening. I wish BOTH parents would leave those kids out of THEIR war!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I have to wonder about the parade of nannies that the kids have coming and going from their lives. What harm is one more bimbo going to do? I wonder how long each nanny stays with them and how attached they get to her before Kate gets rid of her or the nanny moves on. That is probably at least as harmful as daddy's new girlfriend that they barely see or bond with.

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Some posts have been removed. This is a discussion board. On this board we expect mature, reasonable and respectful discussion of all sides of an issue. Thank you.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Do we know there has been a parade of nannies?

Kathyb
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05-17-2006

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kathyb a private message Print Post    
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/exclusive-jon-gosselins-text-messages-prove-he-staged-his-apartment-break-read

Jon Gosselin tried to blame his ex-girlfriend for burglarizing his apartment,
but left an electronic trail that proves otherwise.

RadarOnline.com has exclusively obtained text messages -- sent from Jon to his
then girlfriend, Hailey Glassman -- which may prove he staged the now infamous
break-in at his apartment in Manhattan back in December.

New York police recently cleared Hailey of any wrongdoing and closed the case.

But now RadarOnline.com has text messages that show when Jon blamed Hailey for
stealing his TV in the break-in he had already told her to come and take it!

That never-before-revealed evidence proves that Jon knew she didn’t steal the
TV.

The couple had been living together and was in the middle of a break-up. Days
before he reported a break-in, Jon texted Hailey.

On December 16, 2009, Jon texted, “Leave the key on the counter. Not kidding. I
told u if u choose them our friendship is over. Your choice. That’s not
manipulation, that’s your choice.”

Jon then texts Hailey she needs to be “Out before Christmas. Take the furniture
and t.v. That is a gift.”

The TV is the crucial part as Jon later accused Hailey of stealing it in the
break-in.

On December 17, Jon texted Hailey, “That’s fine, I’m understanding. Do u know
why u have to move out, let me explain. If I were to get evicted, they would
seize the apartment and all.”

He then writes, “I can’t text my plan.”

It’s damning evidence considering Jon claimed the break-in happened over
Christmas while he was in Pennsylvania spending the holiday with his family.

According to the NYPD, Jon then claimed that his ex-girlfriend Hailey slashed
furniture, stole his TV and left a note with her name pinned to a dresser with a
knife. As RadarOnline.com first reported sources say New York police
investigating the "ransacking" of Gosselin's apartment believed the event was a
publicity stunt.

Glassman was cleared as a person of interest in Gosselin’s break-in last week.
In an exclusive statement to RadarOnline.com, Glassman’s attorney, Stephanie
Ovadia said, “I think the text messages speak for themselves. We’re glad the
NYPD has closed this file and that the truth has finally come out.”

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
It also shows that Jon is the manipulative one. What friends and neighbors see as the nice guy is just the typical passive-aggressive personality making sure that he never says what he means. Kate is seen as controlling because she states what she wants and goes after it in a very straight forward way. Kate in a break-up scenario just says it's over, you take this I'll take that. Jon plays games.

I'm looking forward to seeing the kids and Kate. I can go the rest of my life and never see Jon again and I'll be happy. I'm afraid that won't happen, but I can dream.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Jon acting miserable doesn't make Kate nice. Kate acting miserable doesn't make Jon nice.

Jon acts miserable.
Kate acts miserable.

Very simple.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I couldn't agree more!

Which, yet again, brings me back to my one constant thought on this topic: THOSE POOR KIDS!

And FWIW, I'd be THRILLED to never see or hear about either Jon OR Kate ever again!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It's pretty clear Jon had a huge meltdown of some sort. Not cool. But I agree with Jimmer.

I have more confidence regarding Jon changing, getting his life back on track than I do for someone else changing.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I am with you 100% regarding Kate sucking the life out of Jon. I watched the show from the very beginning and Jon was the best hands on Dad ever. I too hope that he gets his act together for his kids. They need him and I agree Kate is all about being a "Star", but considering the fact she is only known for having a bunch of kids and bashing her husband I don't know how long it will last. I saw an add of her saying how hard it is for her seeing as how she has all of these kids by herself now....well what about her hired help??????? Sounds like she has a case of the P.L.U.M's (Poor Little Unfortunate Me), to which I feel she is more than 50% responsible for.