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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, November 10, 2010 - 11:51 am
Now you made me have to go and look it up! I was wrong, it was Kim's fiance, not husband, who was murdered. Not only was he shot twice in the head, it was a hit on him. He was doing some financial hanky panky, so she was also involved with a loser. I suppose a divorce, a murder, and finding out he was a loser all play a part in Kim's insecurity. http://starcasm.net/archives/71621
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 4:45 pm
Ahhh, Hukd. Thanks so much for the info. I was just browsing a rag mag in line at the store and they showed him on a motorcyle and said he'd died (I didn't read enough to realize he was murdered) and they said he'd bought a motorcycle for Kim. I suppose a divorce, a murder, and finding out he was a loser all play a part in Kim's insecurity. Yeah, I think you're right. She's made some wrong choices, eh? Sad.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-18-2004
| Friday, November 12, 2010 - 1:05 pm
I believe I read that Kathy & Paris are very close with Kyle
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, November 12, 2010 - 7:27 pm
After watching last night's show, I have to say that I no longer feel sorry for Camille. That woman is crazy! She hears what she wants to hear. I thought Kyle's apology to her was sincere and she seemed to accept it, but then she worked herself up over her perception that Kyle had called her "insecure." I heard Kyle say, "Don't feel insecure about that," meaning don't feel like an outsider. She told her that everybody loved her and wanted her to feel like a part of the group. Camille didn't hear that part. Kind of sad. I would've felt the same as Kyle, "Why did I come???" Camille definitely has issues.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 1:45 am
What a mess. You're right, Babyjaxmom...Camille is crazy...or..crazy like a fox = troublemaker. Camille is a phony 'happy person'..happy thoughts only after she complained incessantly about HER problems to her mother, who is going through chemo for her cancer. I loved how Camille breezed right by the positive BRAC (?) tests that say she carries one or more of the breast cancer genes. Obviously, they didn't bother her as much as having to pack the children for NY. Very weird. I don't see her ever having preventive mastectomies. Did anyone hear Kyle say what Camille is accusing her of? Surely, if it was said on that trip to Vegas, Bravo would have run the tape...unless they are saving it for the Reunion to get things going again. Now that Camille actually stated, "Kelsey has moved to NY, I think that was why she was so defensive about Kyle's questions. Maybe she thought Kyle knew more than she did. I wonder if he was having an affair when he asked her to move to NY or it started after she refused to move to NY. I can totally see how the 'insecure' thing came up. The 4 gals were discussing it (in 2's) at the airport and Team Kim said maybe Camille was insecure. That was in Kyle's head as she's apologizing about Vegas and she tells her not to be insecure, which was discussed at the airport, lol. She did try to reassure her. Camille stews about that and voila...another fight. She seems like she likes to pick at things and is the type who can only have friends who constantly tell how good she is. It looks like Kim and Taylor might get into it next week, possibly because Kim might be asking Taylor what she said to Camille to get her upset with Kyle again. Oh...the 3,500 sq. foot apartment felt to cramped for her...WHAT? She needs to look in the mirror and get rid of her entitled personality. She's not all that. She's not even the bag of chips.
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Bicbicz911
Member
08-19-2005
| Saturday, November 13, 2010 - 3:42 pm
Cricket, so glad you mentioned the BRAC results. It was an eye-opening moment for me. Camille is exactly the kind of woman who has to make EVERYTHING about her. She has no room to feel empathy or true emotion about anyone else, including her mother or her children. It's all about Camille, all the time. I really wanted to like her, and I detest that Kelsey picked up a new, younger model arm decoration. But Camille defined herself in that moment, where her mother was right in front of her after who knows how long....and instead of focusing on her mother's battle against cancer she had to make sure her mom knew that she was positive for the gene.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-18-2004
| Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 2:35 pm
Camille is WHACK! Was she seriously complaining about living in a 3,500 sq. foot place? Maybe it's because she would actually have to run into her kids LOL
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Sunday, November 14, 2010 - 5:58 pm
I dropped in to put in my about Camille, and see that y'all said it for me. lol For me, it started with the whole trip to Hawaii-how she needed so much help to pack and organize things and how hard it was without Kelsey there. Granted, I'm sure there was more to it than the few minutes that were shown, but it didn't seem very labor-intensive to me. I missed the Vegas episode, but for once I was glad that they replay so much of the prior week. Whatever was said, Kyle ended up apologizing, Camille accepted it, then brought it back up at dinner, with a whole new twist on the conversation, later that day. I'm not a Kyle fan, but I was cheering her on at that dinner. The topper, for me, was how Camille turned her mother's fight with breast cancer into an 'it's all about me' moment. She sure comes across as not having an empathetic bone in her body. Don't know the specifics of her and Kelsey's split, but the more I see of her the more I think RUN AWAY! Angelic, you cracked me up. "Maybe it's because she would actually have to run into her kids." 
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Jenjackso
Member
02-10-2009
| Monday, November 15, 2010 - 10:39 am
My husband is amazing but when it comes to going on a trip, I am better off doing it all myself. I have no idea why she kept saying it was so hard without Kelsey to help. Even when she was whining about having so much to do and listing the things that wonderful house manager she has had already done each of the things. What a saint to work for such drama and stay cool.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 12:15 am
Well, after watching a few episodes, I STILL cannot tell, at a glance, Kim, Camille, and Taylor apart. Although, in close up, Taylor's unfortunate choices in plastic surgery and lip enhancement are pretty obvious. Anyone know who Lisa (liza?) Rienner (sp?) is? She has had enhanced lips for years, and I really hated the way they looked. Well, she had them undone, on TV. Not sure what show it was, but the undoing was really icky. I sure hope that she ends up looking normal. I really like her.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 6:42 am
saw her on some show over the weekend. She looked a million times better.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:12 am
Lisa Renna used to be on the original Melrose Place. She's married to Harry Hamlin (LA Law?). She had her lips done years ago, but recently decided she wasn't setting a very good example for her daughter, so she got them "undone." Good for her! Haven't seen her with her new lips, but I always liked her. Oh, wasn't she on Dancing with the Stars a while back, too?
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 12:40 pm
I remember vaguely early in the season where someone said something similar to "why would anyone want to see you without Kelsey". It may have been a preview or something but if I remember it had one of those quick turn head shot looks when it was said.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 6:34 am
The scene last night in Kelsey's dressing room was very telling. Or at least it seemed to me very awkward!
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Ilovethecoach
Member
08-01-2006
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 8:33 am
It has been reported that Kelsey Grammer encouraged his wife to participate in this show. Is it possible he knew that, because of her seemingly shallow and self-possessed nature, that she would be portrayed in this light and would therefore possibly ease the public scrutiny against himself as an adulterer? I am not excusing his affair, just questioning whether he had an ulterior motive when suggesting she become a cast member of this program.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:20 am
That thought had crossed my mind, too, ILTC. Doesn't make me think any better of Kelsey, though. Now I feel sorry for the kids. Their parents are both shallow, self-obsessed people.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 9:55 am
She's hard to even watch.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 11:15 am
OMG.. Camille... MOVE ON !!!!
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Scout
Member
01-19-2005
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 1:15 pm
I can't figure out if she's completely delusional, or she's just trying to stir up some drama so she stays the center of attention.
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Mictay
Member
09-29-2006
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 2:21 pm
Oh my where to begin,Camille saying that her husband is hirer on the food chain or something like that was terrible,so she thinks people are beneath them???And that whole dressing room scene was awkward,and even if Kelsey encouraged her to be a part of this show,I think she is completely like this even without editing.I mean she is famous for marrying someone famous???Why does she feel superior to anyone?
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 2:38 pm
If Camille didn't know something was wrong with their marriage when she entered Kelsey's dressing room then she a bigger fool than I thought. My masters of "The Housewives" would be (I'm only familiar with NY and BH). Camille, Kelly, The Countess, Kyle, Jill, and I'd add that Daniele chick from NJ. It would be interesting how that group would pair up.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 3:01 pm
Oh Please! I was turning the channels one night and saw Camille on a Skinamax movie. She can act all high and mighty she wants but we know the truth.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 4:42 pm
The sad thing about Camille is she thought she heard Kyle say something to the effect that without Kelsey, she is a nobody, and also she thought she heard Kyle say that she was insecure, but the fact of the matter, that is what she thinks of herself and she is absolutely right!!!!!
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2010 - 8:25 pm
That entire episode was a train wreck for Camille in my eyes. It was like she was a stranger in her own husband's presence. So odd! And yes, what is up wih the holier than thou attitude. VERY curious to see if she will be humbler at the reunion!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 11:06 am
I wonder if she will even be AT the reunion. She obviously has issues getting along with people. This "girls never like me cause they're jealous" thing just doesn't fly with me. What on earth could Kyle be jealous about? Kyle has a husband who's a great dad, father, successful and HOT! And I'll bet he's still Kelsey's real estate agent! Lol! I wonder how Camille justified herself when she watched this episode, if she did. It was kind of funny how she was telling her "friends" (people who work for her) how Kyle "attacked" her out of the blue. She certainly has her own view of the world, doesn't she?
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