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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 11:05 pm
We had been talking about this in random discussions so I thought maybe it would warrant a thread of it's own. I just want to adopt Tyler and Catelynn. What great kids! Catelynn's mom must have done something halfway right to have raised her to be who she is. I still stay her mom has an addiction and I think Dr. Drew slyly alluded to that. I hope she gets help. One day, those two will be amazing parents.
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Willwillbee
Member
09-20-2001
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 1:44 am
I think Tyler's mom pretty much raised Catelynn. If I remember correctly, Catelynn's mom moved away without her.
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Sammi
Member
03-31-2008
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 7:14 am
One of the morning shows GMA, maybe, had a segment on today about Amber and all her abuse. The state she lives in is really looking into it and has gone to her house and checked things out. There may be charges brought against her even tho Gary didn't register any complaint. They said all they need is the tape that we all saw. She had better get her act together. Last night on the Finale with Dr. Drew she says she doesn;t even remember half of it. What a crock!!!
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 8:33 am
I can't believe that Amber isn't in jail for her actions against her bf Gary, the way she hit him was just hard to watch. I hope some action is taken against her and she gets some help.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 9:35 am
I do not condone violence of any kind. However, I still say Gary instigated it and knew he was instigating it. He knew exactly what to say to a stressed out, overwhelmed, anxiety riddled, depressed, single mom to send her over the edge. He's been extremely manipulative and passive aggressive from the beginning. That being said, Amber needs serious help for her anger issues and Gary needs help as well. He's verbally and mentally abusive to Amber also.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 9:56 am
I hope that Amber and Gary do get help. From what she was saying to Dr. Drew, it's a cycle of abuse in her family. And she's just making the cycle go on. I hope she gets help because eventually, it will be Leah who gets the brunt of it. I think she is rather abusive of Leah in the way she ignores her and sticks her in the crib or lies there as she toddles around in high heels. I do not see Gary as being manipulative. I don't think he's that smart. I think he has his issues too and they both need help and hope they get it. I honestly think the best thing would be for them to just break up period.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:01 am
He was from an abusive family. I think he's being manipulative without even realizing it because it's what he's seen growing up. PUSH PUSH PUSH until the breaking point, then you win because the other person went to far.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:18 am
Amber has acted violently against Gary time after time on camera (who knows what wasn't aired?). She also reacts to almost ANYTHING by throwing him out and then physically striking, punching or kicking him and/or his belongings down stairs. She does this in front of her small daughter. If anything Gary says (stuff like "I don't want your out of jail on work realease new boyfriend to change my daughter's diapers", "watch your mouth in front of our daughter" (as most of her sentence has been bleeped out) etc.) Heck, even "I love you" or "I'm sorry". If that push push pushes her and justifies kicking and punching him, again, in front of her child, with mouth spewing profanity.. Then a child is not safe around her because, God knows, eventually a child will push push push}. Sorry, very very low tolerance and I hope she gets real help and maybe stops blaming every one else including her daughter for not getting her GED yet. Hire a tutor, instead of paying for martial arts lessons and exercise classes, hmm? Disclaimer.. haven't seen the last show yet but have watched every single episode of 16 and.. and Teen Mom involving Amber.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:38 am
I totally agree with you, Sea.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:41 am
I would see him say things like "You'll never see your daughter again" and "you're a bad mother." and that made her snap. I agree that until Amber gets help, both Leah and Gary need to be away from her. Again, I am not advocating violence at all. Never, ever, ever ok to cross that line. Gary is not completely innocent in this, though.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 10:41 am
Have they ever showed Ambers mother at all? I adore all of the teen mothers except for Amber. To me she seems very lazy.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:14 am
If I recall, they had shown her mother when she was on 16 and pregnant.
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:19 am
Dfennessey, Yes they showed Amber's mother in season 1. Her mother gave her a baby shower in which Gary's parents came to. Apparently Gary's parents let Amber spend the night at their home and they blamed his parents for her being pregnant. They hate his family, and were so rude to Gary's side of the family that Amber's family all went outside as to not be near Gary's family.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:24 am
I can almost guarantee that Amber is on drugs. All the sleeping, weight loss and acting out looks like pill withdrawal to me. I really was hoping Dr. Drew was going to offer rehab to Catelynn's mom April. I think Tyler's mom pretty much raised Catelynn. If I remember correctly, Catelynn's mom moved away without her. Catelynn moved back in with her. I think she only lived with Tyler for a few months. I love, love, love Tyler and Catelynn. They are young and have a LOT of learning to do, but they are GREAT kids. Really self aware. I think all the counseling they received seems to really have done some good. I wish them the best. Farrah has made leaps and bounds improvements since the start of the show. She really is the only one doing it on her own. She is so crushed emotionally. She will need therapy for a long while. Maci is really independent and I don't have many worries for her other then she is still in love with Ryan. Hopefully she stays with Kyle.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:25 am
Side bar: They let 16 year olds spend the night together? What did they think was going to happen, Yahtzee and a pillow fight? My 17 year old and her boyfriend are not even allowed in her room alone. LOL. Why did they (Amber's parents) let Amber go, though? Why did they not educate her more on teen pregnancy and sex? I remember seeing Amber's dad on one show. He was dying or died of cirrhosis of the liver, right?
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:47 am
I hope I did not come across as blaming the victim regarding Gary. It is never ok to strike someone regardless of how much they instigate, provoke, tease, bait, etc. NEVER.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 11:50 am
I was on my own when i bought a full size bed (now remember I was over the age of 18) and my father said to me "I hope you are not planning on having company in this bed" I told him "I would have company if I wanted to I was not under his roof anymore"
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 12:11 pm
Amber's dad is dying. They haven't said much about him since he appeared on that episode. It seems that quite a few of the pregnancies have happened because one of the set of parents let the kids sleep together at their home. Ryan is something else. He plays with Bentley. Oh yay! You know that most of the responsibility falls on his parents, especially his mother. I remember him sitting around telling his friends that it would cost him an x amount of dollars by the time Bentley was 18. Cost who? He doesn't have a job. His parents are the ones paying.
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 12:14 pm
Escapee, I agree that Amber's parents should of been more aware of her being sexual with Gary. His parents, and hers should have known better. I know Amber's dad was sick, but I don't know if he has died or not.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 12:37 pm
If I remember correctly, they were upset about her seeing him because he was older and a friend of her older brother's. Dr. Drew did say that she pretty much parented herself so I'm sure they just didn't really care about what was going on with her.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 1:11 pm
And now Amber, who was left to parent herself at a very young age, forced to grow up before she was ready, got herself into an adult situation and now she's struggling with not being mature enough to handle it. At least the other girls have family support, she does not. Who suffers the most in this? Leah. So sad.
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 1:39 pm
It is very sad. Does Amber have any siblings?
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 2:00 pm
Hah just found a video of an earlier episode and surprise surprise Amber is on anxiety meds. Mark my words she is abusing them. She shows all the symptoms. http://www.mtv.com/videos/teen-mom-ep-2-how-many-chances/1627944/playlist.jhtml
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 2:08 pm
I want to adopt Leah. LOL.
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Wednesday, October 20, 2010 - 2:10 pm
Dfennessey, I don't know if Amber has any siblings. I remember her baby shower and some family members there, but don't know if there were any sisters there. I know she has a female cousin she is close to, she's on the show with Amber regularly.
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