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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 6:28 pm
Apparently Michelle (season 6 winner) is in a religious cult.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, November 26, 2010 - 2:26 pm
Ketchuplover why do you say that? What have you seen or read? Thanks!
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, November 26, 2010 - 3:10 pm
This is what I found, Michele is touring with a group of women sharing their faith.........doesn't really sound like a cult to me. http://www.womenoffaith.com/
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, November 26, 2010 - 5:50 pm
Mandisa and Amy Grant are also involved.. wouldn't be my cup of tea but certainly doesn't sound like a cult.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 7:39 pm
Someone on another site said she joined a cult/group called I Am Second
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 7:48 pm
I am Second is a Christian movement but I wouldn't categorize it a cult. Many people in the sports and entertainment field have made "I am Second" videos. Basically it is saying that Christ is first in your life and "I" am second. It is the basis of most Christian beliefs. Women of Faith travels around the United States (maybe the world, I don't know). It is a Christian women empowerment group. I've never been but everyone I know who has gone has said it was very powerful and have always returned if at all possible. They have a rotating group of speakers and musicians - Amy Grant, Beth Moore, Robin McGraw(Dr. Phil's wife), I'm sure many others. They always come to DAllas right after school starts so I haven't been able to attend, as it usally lasts from Friday afternoon to Saturday night.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, November 27, 2010 - 8:31 pm
Anne Rice seems to be one who is involved in I am Second..
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 4:59 am
cult = controlling / living together in a compound / making up rules regulations under a Cheif/ leader. not sure if it fits any of the criteria. some churches in the USA do, depends on the beliefs.
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 10:54 am
ann rice might have been involved but she recently rejected the church and such groups.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, November 28, 2010 - 1:45 pm
Hmm well then she should try to get them to take down her testimonials since she is prominently displayed.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 4:15 pm
Enjoy your extra our before tonight's broadcast everybody 
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 9:10 pm
Adios Brendan and Mark. Go Ada!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:09 pm
I'm hoping for an Ada win...I think she deserves it out of the final 4. It would be hilarious, however, if Elizabeth went on a tear and ended up winning. DUH Mark...have you not seen how Patrick Brenda and Fredo rolled over the rest of their so-called friends this entire season? I do hope that Mark wins the at home challenge.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - 10:46 pm
ada is driven. She admits how competive she is. I expect her to starve herself to an amazing weight. however, i am getting soooooo tired of hearing badmouthing of her parents. I mean how many times do we have to hear how horrible they were? She admits it was only when her father was furious with her and I truly wonder if it really happened or whether her memory is foggy. Lot of times people read between the lines during an argument. sorry, but its really turning me off. I was raised with kids who were beaten weekly. Some were removed from the home due to Sexual abuse or a parent went insane. Listening to Ada go on and on about possibly a one time event is irritating me. Lots of people grow up in horrific tension and end up just fine, not > 3oolbs
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:23 am
How many times did a young girl have to hear that she should have died? I don't think her parents could be badmouthed enough. And I'm not sorry for feeling that way. Kids who are trashed like that often never find their voice. Congrats to Ada for finding hers and speaking out. Silence can be deadly. I hope Ada wins, but more, I hope she gets out of the family home and starts building a supportive family of choice. Mark shouldn't have been surprised at all that he would be the target the second he was vulnerable. And to the guy with the car.. STOP saying you WON a car! You were not a winner in that competition at all.
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Rissa
Member
03-19-2006
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 5:37 am
And I am smack in the middle of both of you. lol I can't defend or excuse Ada`s parents but every story has two sides and we have only heard from a little girl who was raised in a home full of tragedy. There hasn`t been anything from her parents who are living a nightmare no parent should have to survive, especially TWICE and almost three times! I think the whole family is stuck in some really unhealthy grieving and communication styles, they are all victims. However that doesn`t mean that Ada needs to step back into it and for her sake I hope she doesn`t. Perhaps her seperating and shining in a new life is exactly what her parents will need to see her in a new light and not just a reminder of the past. As an aside, I would be very curious to hear from her surviving brother.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 11:08 am
I feel for the parents' loss and imagine they were feeling guilt since they were ultimately in charge and would have wished for them to get help. Of course there are many sides to a story like this but Ada has hers and of course remember that she is saying these things in INTERVIEWS with a camera and undoubtedly being asked about the same situation more than once. Part of the price of BL is to work out these issues somewhat in public, but if it saves her from continuing down the road she was walking, that is a good thing. The family has spoken their disapproval by failing to even send her a video. She's still being punished but at least now she is taking action for herself and I hope she just moves on from them for now until she becomes even stronger within herself.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:06 pm
If the parents had responded to the show and said that they are private people and do not wish to be shown on TV, I'd be more in the two sides camp. The fact that they didn't even bother to respond to repeated calls from the show means that they just plain do not care about their daughter. She has amazing strength to be able to ignore their opinion of her and do what she can to help herself. Parents have so much to do with the way we see ourselves. Studies of prisoners show that a very large percentage of them were told by their parents that they would end up in jail. We tend to become what our parents think we are.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:36 pm
Sadly that can be true. Ozzy Osbourne says his parents said he'd end up in prison and he did, but luckily he eventually turned it around.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 12:58 pm
Children grow up wanting to please their parents. Having one impossible to please parent, is bad enough but two of them would truly wreck havoc with your brain.
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Knightpatti
Member
12-05-2001
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 3:04 pm
Hard to believe that Elizabeth made it to the final 4.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Wednesday, December 01, 2010 - 6:00 pm
Elizabeth is in F4 because the other 3 all think they can beat her........ Glad that Brendon didn't make it to the finals and extremely happy that Ada did! Mark winning the at home challenge will be fine with me! Don't we have one more show where the 2 top loosers are safe and for sure in the finals and the public votes on which of the other 2 they want in top 3?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:25 pm
children that are misbehaving little monsters who show antisocial tendencies MIGHT end up in prison OR running successful companies as CEO. yes i believe parents can tell a child's personality when they refuse to conform to rules. I bet alot of jailed men were told they were problems when children. the stats claim an amazingly high rate of sociopathic behaviour. But this is about ada- How many times did a young girl have to hear that she should have died? Could have? or should have? i submit that a person's recall is often skewed after years gone by. Ada has been superstrong, verbal with good communication skills since day one of the show. she isnt a shrinking violet who has been so emotionally abused by her parents she cant face them. I'm sure that one of the most important concepts of the whole relationship is that boys are favoured. once she did have a brother that boy WOULD be the parents favourite. it is cultural and we shouldnt feel like the parents were abusive for Normal practices.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-28-2004
| Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:37 pm
Brendon and Frado's game play ruined the season for me. Like the last several seasons the game play ruins the concept. I haven't really watched since the third of foruth episode. I really hope they can get this show back on track. How many more seasons can we put up with water-loading, and stacking the deck. I really wish they would just say "If you lose the least...you're out" and get rid of the douchebag alliances. Glad to see Brendon's <self mod> didn't get him to the finals.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-16-2003
| Saturday, December 04, 2010 - 2:45 pm
brendon's weak claim of how he never knew whether he would lose weight or not bothered me. He was hardcare gameplaying. High one week, low the next and back n forth as per game play. i never took to him and his weak claims of 'doing nothing for himself until now'. a single man, never married no kids.... what the HECK is he talking about. all hes ever done is look after number one. even his mom didnt speak from the heart and read a prewritten letter for the video LOL Heck, i can imagine brendon writing it before the show started so he could work it into his backstory gaining sympathy
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