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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:09 pm
Lots of people in the public eye complain about the paparazzi; are they all hypocrites too? not fawning at all. i definitely think she has her faults, i just don't get why there seems to be such a double standard.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:16 pm
NO matter where Kate works she'll be hounded by the Paps because people like us are in the 'need to know' groups.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:21 pm
I'm not sure that Kate is doing that much to "put her kids in the public eye". I have not seen public events that she has taken them to, or anywhere that she has had them on stage. I have seen pictures taken of her children at their own home by photographers that were not invited to the home. I've seen pictures of the kids coming to and from school, again not by invitation. Maybe I read the wrong newspapers and magazines.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:24 pm
Yes, Keldog, you are right. We haven't seen them, so we automatically assume that because they aren't in our faces, she must not be with them, ever. However, if we did, she'd be accused of media pimping her kids....which is exactly what Jon would do.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:24 pm
Kate is a bit different than other celebrities with kids in that the source of Kate's fame is her kids. While some people may have a passing interest in the children of other celebrities, the children generally aren't the focus.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:30 pm
What about the Easter egg hunt on their front lawn? Rather than somewhere where the paps couldn't get a clear shot of the kids? Isn't THAT "putting her kids in the public eye?" Is it really necessary to provide a photo op at every corner? If she is inviting the photogs, why? That's pushing the kids into the public eye, yes? Just say no. It's an easy word. Her only claim to fame is her children. Which, I think, she uses to HER advantage.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:31 pm
I am not sure I am understanding your point, Jimmer. Yes, Kate's 'fame' is due to her kids, but does that mean she can or can not continue to be in the public eye? Escapee, I think you are correct. Cost, they seem to do quite a few things in their front yard. Why is it not considered an invasion of privacy that the paps are standing outside the fence line with long range lenses shooting their activities rather than her parading her kids?
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:46 pm
I can't imagine not allowing one's children to be in their own front yard. There have to be times when a parent has to weigh the possibility of their children's picture being taken against giving them the idea that they are prisoners in their own homes. I remember seeing pictures of Michael Jackson's children with scarves over their faces and thinking that it just seemed so horrible and wondering what those poor kids felt like.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:47 pm
Well IMO it is an invasion of privacy but it is also perfectly legal (though in bad taste IMO). So while Kate has every right to let them play in the front yard, they have every right to take their picture there. So if Kate is interested in keeping her kids out of the public eye, it is in her interest to have them play in the backyard. Similarly, it is also Kate's right to remain in the public eye herself, but that comes with the knowledge that people who are interested in her will automatically be interested in her children as her children are what made her interesting to people in the first place. Kind of a catch 22 for Kate. Perhaps eventually Kate will gain enough recognition on her own terms that her children will be in the background.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:49 pm
Jimmer, I think that is exactly what Kate is doing by putting just herself out there and not her kids, gaining recognition on her own.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 10:26 am
The front lawn thing--it would be just as easy to do the egg hunt in the backyard. Seems to me that the kids have always been used to gain $$$. And whoever said that "the diff between a typical celeb and Kate is the kids" is absolutely correct!!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:18 am
I'm not sure the show ever highlighted their backyard, so nobody can claim that the backyard is the appropriate place to hold the Easter egg hunt. Springtime in Pennsylvania could mean a big muddy mess in the backyard. Or maybe in the morning that's the shady area and it was too cold. Who are we to judge or tell her where she should do things on her own property? It would be nice once in a while if others could even possibly imagine that Kate does do many things with the kids in mind. There isn't a shred of evidence that Kate does various things exclusively to promote herself and/or feed her ego. If there is, I'd like to see it. There is an incredible amount of speculation without any factual basis behind it. We've seen pictures and videos of Jon with his "girlfriends" but only a few pictures of Kate and her bodyguard. Speculation automatically went to the possiblilty that she could be having an affair with him. Jon PURPOSELY went to the paps at the fence and befriended them. We've seen that dozens of times. Kate has an Easter egg hunt and is photographed on her lawn (not hanging over the fence signing autographs with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth, etc) and she is looking for a photo op of HERSELF at the children's expense? Again, pure speculation without factual merit. Jon fails miserably at getting his job as an Ed Hardy model (or whatever he was trying to do) and not much is said. Kate is invited to go on DWTS, accepts the offer as a way to make mega money, and she's slammed for being away from the kids. These comparisons could go on and on and on, but it wouldn't change anyone's mind. I support her and applaud her efforts to take care of those children. Jon Gosselin doesn't deserve any more time with them than the courts approved. The children deserve to see a father who cares enough about them to support them, not one who just comes over for playtime. They will survive just fine with the current visitation status.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:24 am
I had a easter egg hunt in my back yard but it took me weeks of cleaning it from my spring melt. I am assuming PA got alot of snow. So maybe the front was in better shape? Mine was but luckly the ground dried up in time for the back yard. Living in Canada I can understand a messy mucky spring melt. My front faces East, back faces west. My front gets more sun so it dries out before the back.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:36 am
I guess some may believe that Kate should keep those kids inside and not let them have an outside egg hunt...perhaps never play out in their own front yard at all... She'd get flack for that too. She is damned if she does/damned if she doesn't for everything in the eyes of some. This is my opinion and I am not addressing this post to anyone in particular on this board or those who just lurk or even those in the media who slam Kate for everything. I am not trying to bait anyone...I'm just stating my opinion. sigh...I feel badly for Kate. She is not my favorite person, but I have nothing against her. It is too bad that just because she snapped and complained at and about Jon while they were married, (which is really nothing out of the ordinary...and he did the same...and the situation they were both in was out of the ordinary having 6 babies all at once) that she is punished over and over for that and everything else by the media...so over the top.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 11:44 am
Happymom, I couldnt said it better myself. Gosh forbid to have a outside easter egg hunt. The only times we did that for Alison was when the snow hadnt melted. Now she is older I was half thinking well if the snow isnt all gone, I could stick a few eggs in the snow lol! Kids love outdoor Easter Egg hunts. If you want proof, I got video of my squealing 4 yr old going around her yard gathering eggs.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 12:30 pm
Our town has a big egg hunt every year. One year when my kids were still young enough to enjoy it, I missed it! I felt so badly about that. I even went out of my way to find one of the free local parenting publications to locate a hunt in a neighboring community. We had missed them all though. I went to so much expense ($ and time) to give it to them in our backyard! This wasn't counting the one that happens on Easter morning because, of course, the Easter Bunny hid those. That was an expensive Easter! Sorry for the off topic...kids really do love Easter egg hunts though.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 12:34 pm
US Magazine, a beacon of truth... "Kate's Sneaky Easter Plan" page 59 In summary, Kate held the egg hunt in front of the paps because she wanted to beat Jon to it, an act of one-upmanship. She heard he was planning one for Easter Morning, so she ran out last minute in an attempt to out do him on Saturday. As a side note Jon took Alexis, who'd been sick for days, to the doc and she had Strep. Kate said it was "just a cold". Seems US magazine doesn't like Kate much either.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 12:57 pm
Thanks Brenda. The photos that I saw were pretty much looking like the hunt was staged for the paps. I have to say, poor kid if she had strep. That's a very painful illness and in no way could that kind of a sore throat be considered "just a cold."
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:05 pm
"...to the doc and she had Strep." Can't reporters even use the word doctor when they're making their assumptions? Is there an interview with Jon or the doctors out there somewhere? Medical information is protected, so if there's a leak...we all know how Jon loves to blab to the paps.
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Cynny
Member
06-20-2001
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:08 pm
I'm with Happymom in that I'm not addressing anyone in particular either, just stating my opinion. I feel sorry for Kate for a lot of reasons. It's not easy being married to a husband who is the equivalent of another kid...been there and it's hard and it often hurts a lot. It's not easy raising kids, no matter how many you have. It's not easy going through a divorce, with everyone who has ever known you forming their own opinions on everything that happened and why. Those are all difficult things to cope with. To have gone through any of those things with the whole world watching and JUDGING me? I can't even imagine how I would have survived it. I just feel like the whole culture these days is to judge, judge, judge. I guess there are an awful lot of people these days who feel pretty safe in their own glass houses. I just don't get it. What does one get from constantly picking on someone else or taking real honest to goodness pleasure in bad things happening to someone? Live and let live in my little bubble! 
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:13 pm
I agree that strep can be very painful. (I had it a lot as a child. It was more painful as an adult and I was a lot sicker whenever I've had it as an adult.) But maybe (hopefully) with Alexis it was caught early. One time when I didn't want to go to school, I told my mom that I had a sore throat. Little did I know she would actually take me to the Dr. I was worried because I felt fine. I tested positive for strep throat. Strep can be quite contagious. I think every time I ever got it, my dad caught it too and vice versa. I hope all the Gosselins don't come down with it.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:21 pm
Sigh! I wonder where this new shot at Kate will go?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:27 pm
"to the doc" is not a quote. That was a summary of what the magazine had. They have a photo of Jon taking her to the doctor. US has a whole other article called "Inside Kate's Train Wreck" about DWTS. But I haven't read it yet.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:29 pm
ITA Cynny As far as the hunt goes... maybe it was staged. That way the paps get their pictures and the family can do another hunt in private.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, April 13, 2010 - 1:38 pm
and while I am at it: Yes she is out to make money. Can you imagine how much it cost to maintain what they have? I would imagine she MUST have a bodyguard. Think of all the horrible attacks she has had here and we are all a great bunch. I imagine she gets some nasty mail / threats. And I am sure some sicko would love to grab a kid. And yes I know..they asked for it by signing up for the TLC show. But lets be real - if anyone saw the train wreck that would come from this the show would have been stopped before it started. Nobody could have foreseen this. It is so easy to sit and judge others. I think we do it to take the focus off of our lives and perhaps make ourselves feel a bit better about our own screw-ups. As I have said before, I am pretty much a run of the mill boring person, but in NO WAY would I want my divorce out there for all to see. And it was for the most part amicable. As for her photos, my daughter has a professional camera. At gatherings all you hear is the noise of the shutter going 1000 miles an hour. It gets annoying. Then the pictures hit the facebook. There are so many instances where we were having such fun but the photo looked like I was ready to kill someone. I have one of those faces.
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