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Cricket
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08-05-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:26 am
She has said in interview (from DWTS)that her sister also watches the kids. I had a baby sitter everyday when i was little,i like to think i turned out ok. Thanks, Tmagicsac. Sadly, I don't believe anything that comes out of Kate's mouth. Maybe when I actually see her sister with the children, I'll believe it, but so far, I've only seen teenage babysitters...err nannies. When asked by Joy Behar if Jon was paying child support ($20,000 is being reported) she put head down and didn't answer, but mumbled something else. The fact is she's lying about why she's doing DWTS. She's getting plenty of money to live, but she wants to be famous. Any real mother knows it's best to be with your children when they are younger, but this woman is thinking about herself at all times. She needs the money to pay her bodyguard, her personal chef and all the nannies...oh and the housekeepers as well. Again....not about the children, but more about the lifestyle Kate wants. If this woman is so poor like she claimed on national TV, why would she pay nannies when her ex-husband is free? Control...she has it and wants to keep it. That's why she's so awful at dancing. She can't give up control and let loose. I've never seen anyone so rigid on this show, including the men.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:34 am
The fact is she's lying about why she's doing DWTS. Can you reference your proof?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:37 am
Any real mother knows it's best to be with your children when they are younger, How old should the children be before a mother is allowed to work outside the home?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:38 am
Referenece it? She says she needs the money because she's a poor single mom. She's not poor at all. She gets child support and has 2 new shows in the works. The facts are that she said on Jay Leno she would love to do DWTS so she could laugh at herself. That's Katespeak for "I want to do it, so it shall be done." She's so full of herself it's ridiculous. I can't understand how people can think she's all that when she's paying for nannies, a bodyguard and a personal chef, while going around saying her poor kiddies need to eat. It's so phony. Oh..by the way, she is quoted in several magazines now as saying she'd like to be on a Soap Opera.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:43 am
Shame on Kate and all the other famous moms out there!!!!!! Put on your swing dresses and aprons, bouffant up that hair, and get your butts back in the kitchen!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:43 am
I am confused as to why Kate can only be a nurse as a profession. Why can't she pursue other options? I am fairly certain that 90% of actors/performers ect have picked their jobs because they like being in the public view. Why is that wrong? If she says she is working for her enjoyment, she is blasted. If she says she is working for her kids, same response. I just want to add that lest anyone thinks I am being defensive about working mothers, I was very fortunate and never worked outside the home till my kids were in middle school and high school. I honestly thought all these years that the feminist movement was about allowing women to have choices in what they want to do in life.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:44 am
And, FWIW if the kids were shown with a babysitter she'd get blasted for continuing to pu them in the public eye, but called a liar when she doesn't parade them. Kate can't win on DWTS or in life.....
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 11:54 am
They are shown with a babysitter, Escapee. There was special footage filmed the Saturday before Easter showing Kate giving the children orders before their Easter Egg hunt. There was also pics of her 'playing' with them, where she stood to the side and then was sitting against the house while they played. If she wasn't so delusional, I'd almost feel sorry for her that she doesn't seem to know how to interact with her own children, but rather just seems to watch them. She did have it all. She said society owed them and she wanted a TV show before the sextuplets were even born. She got her new cribs, a TV show and everything she could want, but then she didn't want their father anymore. She felt she was the more popular one and didn't need him. She is the only one responsible for where she is now, so if she has any problems, she brought them on herself. Still..she has so much, but doesn't seem happy. By the way, I have absolutely nothing against working Moms. I just have a problem with a woman like Kate who isn't telling the truth about why she's working.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:03 pm
Hey, for those who thought and stated that Kate was acting when her eyes would water up during an interview when talking about her divorce, and those who thought she was acting just whenever she'd do anything period, I'm curious to know whether you still think she was acting back then now that we know she can't act to save her life? In other words, now knowing that she can't act, in retrospect do any of you still think she was acting back then? It's just something that crossed my mind to ask as I viewed her on the recent DWTS episode, because she can't act at all. I'm not cutting her down, it's just an observation, but it really gives insight into those who thought she was acting back then. I realize now since it's revealed she cannot act that the story or perspective on Kate for some has switched over to something else, but do you still think she was acting back then?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:07 pm
DWTS has demonstrated that she can't dance and that she has very low confidence in her dancing ability. How has it demonstrated that she can't act?
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:12 pm
Cricket, how did/do you feel about Jon when he was always on his cell phone, riding his lawn thingy, holding court with the paps, using "babysitters" during his shift, sleeping with the "babysitter" while the kids were in the home, etc. all during his time with the kids? I'm not being sarcastic, I realize these moments are just that, moments in time, and not the totality of Jon or Kate's time with the kids, but since you made mention of Kate with the kids, I'm genuinely interested in knowing how you felt/feel or your thoughts about all those times Jon's attention was away from the kids when it was his time to spend with them? Do you feel the same disdain about it when Jon did/does it, or is there an excusable reason that justifies it for him?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:13 pm
As a working single mother, the way Kate keeps playing the "working single mother" angle, like she's some charity case who's trying to put food into her kids mouth does feel phoney to me. If she would just admit that she loves being a star, wants to be on TV, loves her career, I might be able to scrounge up an ounce of respect for her.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:16 pm
DWTS has demonstrated that she can't dance and that she has very low confidence in her dancing ability. How has it demonstrated that she can't act? I had the same thought, but you worded it much better. Putting on a dance performance, becoming another characters as you dance is far different than throwing out some crocodile tears. Just ask my DD. 
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:18 pm
Jimmer, I interpreted that she can't act because she didn't do well with the acting coach. Also, because when dancing there has to be a certain stage presence and form of acting in ones facial expressions and movement and Kate can't act to do that, at least not right now. Furthermore, to convey a different persona than "I'm petrified" and not show the fear on her face requires one to do some acting to reveal a different mask than what she's currently revealing, as well as put on an act or front that they're not looking at their partner for constant cues. Other contestants have noted their nervousness or fear, but it's mostly just shown in their grip on their partner's hand not on their face or continuous movements, but Kate's fear is revealed completely in her facial expressions. If dancing is telling as story then one needs to become a character...act. Therefore, I say she cannot act right now, so in lieu of that, I'm curious how those who have accused her of acting in the past feel in restrospect about those past comments.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:19 pm
I am disappointed in how Jon has acted with the kids after the divorce. Prior -- he seemed to be more involved with the kids, more in tuned with them. Whereas Kate always seemed a bit distant, herding and ordering them around, not really connected with them. So I had really hoped Jon would continue to be really involved with the kids. As of late I don't think either one is doing a good job. I'd like to see Jon step up and get back in the game.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:21 pm
Crocodile tears does not equal acting. Kate can't dance, can't act. But she can play the poor pitiful me routine with crocodile tears thrown in. I see them as 2 wildly different things.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:21 pm
I ask this genuinely, is the view that crocodile tears are different from acting? Brenda if so, then I think I see that point. But putting on a dance performance and becoming a character is acting and she is not skilled at doing that right now. Anyway, some were specifically stating back then that her tears were acting, so I want to know their perspective now. ETA: Just saw your post right above, thank you Brenda, that's what I wanted to know. I'm not sure if you were one of the people before stating she was acting when her eyes would water up in the past, but I'm glad to read an objective perspective on it.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:21 pm
If she would just admit that she loves being a star, wants to be on TV, loves her career, I might be able to scrounge up an ounce of respect for her you would be in a very small minority. LOL words are so interesting....a simple picture of Kate and her kids at Easter is she ordering or instructing? i think how one views her would determine the answer.
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Maplsyrp
Member
02-10-2009
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:26 pm
Wow I feel bad now cause I guess I was a bad mom when my kids were little. I wished someone had told me.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 12:42 pm
I'm not saying it is right but I think that some of the thoughts about the importance of Kate spending more time with her children is that she has so many and they are all very young. Young children need more attention than older children and Kate has a huge number of them. That is far different than having one or two kids or even different from having 8 kids of varying ages. Think about how much time you spent with your child when he or she was six and then multiply that six times.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 1:05 pm
So Kate has to admit that she loves being in the spotlight, wants to be an actress, and wants fame above all else and some people would be satistied? I highly doubt that. It would just be another avenue to criticize her for not working at some job deemed "appropriate" by her detractors. She can't win for trying. No matter how she supports her children, she can't also stay home with them. And I have seen an interview (can't recall where, on TV or where) that when she is asked whether Jon is paying his support, she doesn't come out and say yes or no. Since Jon became a jetsetter and cradlerobber, I don't know how he has earned any money to be able to even send any child support. Why is there no outrage from people about HIM and how HE is supporting those children? It's only about how Kate is going about it. I commend her for being out there and showing she will take whatever means necessary to find money to take care of them. Kate could have had 10 hours of pure fun, joy, and laughter with her kids, but the pictures the paps publish are always the negative ones. Personally, I wouldn't jump to any conclusion that she is ordering the kids around. But then again, Jon has been seen numerous times taking one child or another to a doctor. Should we suspect that he has been abusive and hurt them? While that is a ridiculous statement, that's how I see conclusions of some others as they relate to Kate.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 1:12 pm
Jimmer, the kids are in school.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 1:46 pm
Hey, since the kids are in school, and they are young, and they need more attention....maybe there should be more teachers in the classrooms during those hours they are at school. Brings to mind kids at boarding school who spend less time with their parents than one of Kate's 8 kids. I have lots of respect for Kate. I completely understand why she left John. I get why she had to be shrewish at times, and I know that the media reports on the trainwreck parts of people's lives and not the positive. That's not what sells. I also have enough brains to know that what we see in the media is not what is really going on and that for all the negative there is 100 times the positive.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 1:47 pm
As much as I dislike Kate I don't understand the "go be a nurse" comments you hear people say on TV. As if earning a meager living would enable her to be with her kids more? I don't get that either. She has a great, cushy job! She'll make a ton more money this way. Good for her! I still don't think she's a good mother; I still think she's trying to keep Jon away from the kids. But I can appreciate her success as a star or business woman even if she won't admit to desiring it and even when I'm tired of her being on my tube. LOL.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, April 09, 2010 - 2:02 pm
If I were Kate, I'd try to keep John away from the kids until he got his act together too! I don't see her as a bad mother. I wouldn't want my kids around someone who was gonna bad mouth me. When asked about John, Kate stays mum, and we view that as avoidance. Badmouthing John would hur the kids. He's the one that moved to ANOTHER STATE with a whackadoo for a girlfriend. We have not seen Kate do one iota of the immature crap John has, yet people are still calling her a bad mom because she wants to continue to be famous and provide the lifestyle her children are accustomed to and have been since birth. FOR SHAME KATE!!! What she is trying to do now with The View, DWTS, the PEOPLE magazine article is untarnish her image, and that is for the sake of her kids. She has them primarily, she is doing DWTS around a schedule that creates time with her kids. The kids are gonna hear and see things in the media, it's gonna happen. No way to avoid it. They are gonna see and hear their mom do things that was for them, with them and about them. She doesn't have to badmouth John, he's doing that for himself.
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