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Happymom
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01-20-2003

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Maybe Kate wouldn't want Gloria Alred for a lawyer.

Re Jon not being able to get a job in the entertainment field because if he did, he would be in breach of his contract with TLC...Jon signed all contracts of his own free will...his choice. He has to abide by that now. If I were the head of TLC, I would not want Jon out there to just say anything about my company. He has bad mouthed them publicly in the past.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I'm not wishing Kate harm, just normalcy. She's become a diva, which isn't good for her children. She's subtlely bashed Jon and gotten away with it. Like Countrydaze, I feel bad for Jon. Once Kate didn't need him to dress the kids; bathe them, etc. she kicked him to the curb and because she's filming the children, is able to pay a bodyguard (replacement for Jon) $5,000/week. I don't ever want to hear her say again that she can't feed her children.

Kate is the one that said that they can't go back to normal jobs. No one is clamoring for her to go back to nursing; yet Jon must get a 'normal' job? He is personable and would be a good on-the-street interviewer. Why is it wrong for him and not Kate? That is what I mean by her needing to be brought back to Earth and 'real' reality. Why does she think she should have opportunities and Jon shouldn't? If he had done to her what she did to him, she would then have a right to whine.

I still see him being naturally closer to the children than she. She seems overwhelmed by them and is quoted as saying that often.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I see Kate as dealing with reality every day of her life. Not my reality, but reality nonetheless. I do not begrudge her or her children a penny of what as a group they've all been able to earn. I doubt if it is any portion of what it is going to take to get them all to adult hood in the manner to which she and they have become accustomed. They live a somewhat priveledged life and that is okay; lots of people do.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
You can't support 9 people on a nurses salary, at least not very well and with no help from your ex. Nursing hours are not the same as school hours, so daycare would have to be paid for too. If John had the kids and no child support then it would be hard for him to hold down a regular job and support those kids too, but John doesn't have the kids, so get a regular job.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I can't imagine how Jon could support his family on a regular job with Kate's current lifestyle. How could he pay $22,000 per month on an IT job?I'm surprised Kate isn't having to pay him alimony since she makes way more than he ever will.

Lazylu
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04-09-2010

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lazylu a private message Print Post    
If Jon had the kids and was supporting them he would be supporting the kids not Kate or her lifestyle. I thought I said if he had the kids it would be hard to support them on a regular salary??

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I do not believe that TLC forced Jon to sign an employment contract as part of a settlement. That would be against the law, and Jon could go to court and that contract would be null and void in two seconds. That might be what he wants people to think as his explanation, but I don't believe it.

Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Oh, it's just poor ol' Jon, playing the victim again. He just needs to grow up.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Standard entertainment contracts stipulate a period of exclusivity during the terms of said contract. Any appearances done in competing entitites/other networks during the term of that contract are usually done for publicity value, and under the direction/approval of the company you have the contract with.

In other words, you want to get paid, you work for us only. It's no different than if I was employed by Lee Jeans and drew my paycheck from them -- but I was approached by Levi's to do work for them at the same time. Lee would say "No way. You work for us." Of course if I were a regular employee I could quit and go work for Levi's, but if I had signed a contract to work for Lee Jeans for a specific length of time, there would be penalties for getting out of that contract early.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
The fact is, if Jon wants an income, he had to sign with TLC, but TLC will not let him work for them. But the biggest loser in all of this is the kids. They love their Dad and I hope that Kate just tries to remember that.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Am I understanding this correctly. The TLC contract means that Jon can't work anywhere else in entertainment but at the same time TLC isn't paying him anything?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
He signed a contract for some reason. My guess is that it was for money, or else why sign?

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 7:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
TLC is paying him, how much, I do not know, but while he is under contract with them, he can not work for any other TV station, but TLC is not using him to work. Seems to me that TLC is holding all the cards

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
He signed the contract. I'm assuming he read it before he signed it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Big assumption. But he signed it. And I have no idea what is in the contract, having not seen it.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Sunday, October 17, 2010 - 11:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Well, TLC was suing him for big bucks...and this really was his only way out, so his back was kinda up against the wall I do believe. Yes, he could go out and get another job making what 10 bucks an hour, so I really can't blame him for signing.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
No Jimmer. The contract just says he has to clear it with TLC before signing other entertainment industry contracts. TLC allowed Jon and Kate to do interviews in print and tv all the time. The problem originally was that Jon stopped asking for permission and then started slandering TLC so they sued him for violating the contract.

Someone said to me that they were going to continue suing me unless I agreed to put my children in danger I would tell them I would see them in court. No-brainer in my book but then Jon is a different type of parent.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm still confused. You would think that they would have to compensate Jon in order to have a contract with him that restricts him from other opportunities. So if Jon is being paid by TLC then he would have an income.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
They are paying him. The old contract was for him appearing on the show the new contract they are paying him in exchange for him allowing his children to be filmed (that's why I said the judge probably laughed him out of court). No-one knows if this new contract has any restrictions on his working at all, just guessing based on his..... not working. LOL But that could well be just because his 15 minutes are up and he isn't interested in anything that doesn't put his face on tv.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
So, let me get this straight.

Jon had a contract with TLC. Jon violated his contract with TLC. TLC sued Jon for violating his contract, and had the evidence to win if it went to court. So, Jon signed a new contract to allow the kids to be filmed to avoid having to pay the penalty for his previous violation of the contract.

I'm going to leave it at that without further comment.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I know it sound blackmailish, but Jon brought it on all by himself.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, October 18, 2010 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
It doesn't sound like blackmail to me.
It sounds like someone didn't want to pay the penalty that would and should have been imposed by the court. So someone took the easy way out and came up with a deal. Unfortunately, the deal that someone made to save their own butt involved their children. Now someone is trying to get out of that deal too.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I just can't agree that Jon brought this on himself. Kate wanted the divorce, not Jon. He'd still be a great Dad and a decent husband, had Kate not clamored for more....always more with her. Granted, their marraige wasn't perfect, but I don't think Jon would have ever walked away.

He was in shock and behaved like a young man in retaliation; something many men do. No, it wasnt right, but he is not the sole reason for this mess and it is blackmail, pure and simple. If his family had money to fight Kate and TLC, it would be a whole different ballgame. As it stands, Jon is the lowly batboy.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Kate says Jon asked for the divorce and Jon says Kate did, so who knows?

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, October 19, 2010 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Definitely none of us :-)