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Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, November 18, 2010 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I think Ada will end up with a new family, the Biggest loser Family. That group seemed to rally around her to support her. I hope she continues to do well. It's hard to overcome major family issues in a short period of time.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Friday, November 19, 2010 - 12:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
or the same strong personality we see in ada, is acting out negatively or beligerently when she is with her family. Often it goes both ways.

for instance, i was shocked she told about being slapped across the face and verbally abused during the first episode. i felt she was bashing her parents and trying to use them as the Excuse for her weight.

at her age she hopefully has other support network out there and doesnt live with mommy and daddy. IF at her age she cant cut the ties, maybe this show will finish off the codependancy.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Friday, November 19, 2010 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Just to play devil's advocate... has Ada actually said that her parents have told her it was her fault? It is entirely possible that her parents hold her at an emotional distance because every time they look at her they see their own guilt. And entirely possible that any child would take that on themselves. I really don't know but I just get that impression listening to her. Seems to me that she would have a more involuntary shame reaction if her parents had constantly told her it was her fault from very early years. She says it more matter-of-factly..... dunno, just sounds like it's a conclusion she has come to from trying to understand why her parents are so remote. Not excusing them, just adding shades of grey. LOL

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, November 19, 2010 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
No, Ada pretty much said that they blamed her in the original show where they were all trying to get in the game. It was part of her packaged piece.

I hope she learns that sometimes you just can't please people and sometimes you just have to move on and make your own life without a close connection to your family. In her culture it seems that loyalty to your parents - no matter how bad they can be - is so important, but she has had a great deal of success in every other part of her life and now she is having outstanding success in this part - find people to make your family!

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Friday, November 19, 2010 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I heard her talking about it way back but I can't remember... did she say "my parents blame me" or "my parents have SAID that it's my fault." See what I mean?

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i thot it was more like First son died in pool, second son was cribdeath and the third attempt at a son was Almost killed in a car accident ada caused while driving.

One parent slapped her across face and asked if she was trying to kill another one.

I went looking for a link to the first episode and couldnt find one that i could rewatch.

This recollection was only based on memory. At 27 yrs old her parents probably consider her on her own and would not want to interfere with a Video or whatever. My guess is that there has been some serious verbal fighting so they arent that close.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Saturday, November 20, 2010 - 10:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
Why couldn't they get some friends to make a video? Or co-workers? Surely someone likes this girl.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I have to be honest, if one of my kids went on a reality show you could not pay me enough to appear on it (via a home video). They decided to be on tv, not me. Although my girls (unlike Ada) would know that in advance and also know that I support them a million %.

I am not trying to excuse her parents, just trying to understand them. I can't imagine losing 2 children, almost 3. I always say that I could never survive one of my dd's dying and it seems to me that Ada's parents did not survive it either. So sad and damaging for Ada being a child through all of that tragedy.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Surely someone likes this girl.

it does seem weird. BUT ada may not have friends. Even work friends may not exist. If she has an off personality, she might be on her own.

we should see during the Makeover episode. you know how they ALWAYS have family or Friends come to see the new look.

I'm sure they'll dreg up a 'work friend' who wants to be on tv or something.

or maybe guilt the parents into it

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
My recollection agrees with Sunshyne4u. There were two younger brothers that had died unexpectedly. Ada was asked to take the third brother to McDonald's to get him something to eat and on the way she totalled her car. When her father first saw her after the accident he walked up and slapped Ada in the face saying, "What are you trying to do? Kill the third one." That is paraphrased from my memory, but that's the way I recall it.

I remember being horrified that there had been two younger brothers, and also that her father would be so cruel.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I also think they have been very negative to her about her weight issues.

I would hate to be on television but I would do so to support my child. No matter how old she was at the time. She would know without a doubt that she has my unfailing support and love.

I understand the reluctance, however, to expose your life to the world at large, so I'm not judging others, just saying that's what I would do in that situation.

However, having said that, if it was one of those "get the man/woman in the hot tub and make out" shows I'm not sure I would offer my support, but definitely still have my love!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I'd prefer Ada's parents be locked away somewhere.

Scout
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01-19-2005

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
I was thinking that they only lost the one son to drowning. Then when Ada had the car accident they asked her if she was trying to kill another one. Regardless, though, I can't imagine telling a child that it was her fault like that. Unbelievable, that they could be so cruel.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I guess that the culture of son is so ingrained in them that they can't see past it...even though they why did they immigrate (I'm assuming that they are first generation immigrants) to our country if they were not here to make a better life for ALL their children. So sad.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 1:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
At least Ada has a supportive friend... sad to have no family show up but I understand how she'd not want to see them to have to deal with them not sending a video. It sure was sweet that Ada and Mark stopped competing at the last stairs and walked Patrick in so he could get the car, but later he mentioned WINNING the car, which I thought was the wrong word since he wasn't really close to winning it. It was sort of handed to him. But still a very sweet moment for BL.

I'm tired of the guys alliance but it is what it is.

Sunshyne4u
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06-16-2003

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 5:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
i think everyone might be forgeting that Ada's family DID show up and come with her to the first episode of the show.

Not sure why they would do that IF there was a huge ongoing fight. however, Maybe ada let it Slip that she was going to air out her family dirty laundry on the tv show.

I can see the father especially being quite upset and considering it dishonoring her parents. Sorry, but i think all of us have had some huge blow up with a parent...occly when a parent possibly has backhanded us or been extra rough.

It may happen just once and it takes certain kind of a person to dwell on it for years.

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on a side issue, how the HECK can patrick be unemployed and still afford to Eat tons of food?? i mean just to maintain a 400lb physique takes THOUSANDS of calories a day.

i dont know. I dont think that Ada thot of throwing it herself. I can see that it is very very possible that Brendan put a bug in her ear that Patrick needs to be voted OUT before the finale' cause he will win. I can see ada and Brendan deciding that it can be used as an excuse to vote him out.... after all, he already has a car!!

we'll see if my theory is correct. I think Brendan would backstab anyone to get further into the game. During that first hour he admitted he has yoyo'd up and down over a hundred pounds for years.

That fits in with my theory that its all gameplay. I dont know, even his mom reading a letter during the Video last week seemed awfully 'set up'.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Patrick can be heavy and poor because the foods one needs to eat a healthy diet are much more expensive than those that add the pounds. Rice, pasta and potatoes are cheaper than boneless skinless chicken, fish and fresh vegetables.

Kellsma
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08-27-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Patrick has been very overweight for years and he said he lost his job in January so it did not come from his recent job loss. I am sure as it is with most people, jsut bad choices. I am glad they gave him the car but I thought the same thing when he said he "won" the car. No Patrick, you were given the car.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Yes what Mamabatsy said.

I don't think it is in Brendan's head to think about giving someone else a car. If anyone came up with it I'm sure it was Ada. The only reason Brendan would have come up with it was because he knew he was going to lose so in that case he might have put the bug in Ada's ear. I figure if Brendan was ahead towards the end he would have done everything he could do to win that car. I have no faith in Brendan. I agree that he is manipulative and all about the game, and I believe the minute the show is over he will return to his old ways.

Fredo sure looks different (does anyone else accidentally type Frodo?) without his facial hair. That took years off of him, along with the weight loss.

I guess after the first 2-3 the rest knew their families were waiting for them, because they looked like they weren't as surprised. Lisa was really sweet with her children...you can tell how much she loves them.

Elizabeth...how is she still there? But kudos for her this week for staying above the yellow line, and she looked entirely different after her makeover. Actually though I thought she was a beautiful girl and preferred her less "made up" look.

Personally I am hoping at this point that Mark takes it all..although Ada would be my second choice and Patrick my third.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Since Elizabeth is still out of shape, the same task is more difficult for her. That is why she was able to lose more by doing less.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
On one hand, I liked that they changed how the makeover show was presented. More finished product, less how to get there. Problem is they picked a bad time to do it. That stylist was a show fan and knew what he was talking about. Plus he had a nice way about him and I would have liked to have seen more.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Actually I'm tempted to type Frado, since that is his correct spelling, but I see we have it Fredo in the banner.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
That's funny, because I changed it from Frado to Fredo after looking at the banner...LOL!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    


Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Thursday, November 25, 2010 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Actually, calories (not potatos/pasta) in excess of needs will cause weight gain. You can eat healthy on a budget. You can gain weight eating healthy if the portions are too much. And you can eat excessive calories spending a lot or spending minimally. Just depends on priorities in your budget. AND about exercise/activity.

Check out www.myfitnesspal.com and make your own comparisons of intake/output in your life. From what I have seen in all the seasons, seems the folks on BL have emotional issues contributing to their food choices (both in types and amounts). These trainwreck stories make for good reality tv. This show is about lifestyle change but in a very drastic manner. And it's unfortunate that many use it for game play and/or exposure (hence the poor maintenance results of some of the previous winners). Those who are able to keep up the results are still heavier when they were on the show, but they have to adopt fitness & a public persona into their permanent life (i.e. fitness leaders, spokespersons, etc).

Money is a huge motivator for weight loss (i.e. Tommy Lasorda & other celebrities lost plenty of weight when Slim Fast was paying them). Because of the published results about the power of the purse, a lot of weight loss programs promise money back when people reach (and then maintain) their goal weight.