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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I guess it just boils down to perspective then, I have seen Kate act many ways (b*tchy, controlling, loving, self-deprecating), but I truly have never seen her seem ungrateful for the things/opportunities that have come her way.
I think Jon suffers more from laziness than entitlement.

Kathyb
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05-17-2006

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kathyb a private message Print Post    
I think Jon may have had a spurt of entitlement for a while there, but I think he's come back to reality now.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/10/jon-gosselin-kate-gosselin-reality-show-tlc/

Jon & Kate Plus 8 - Part Deux?

Originally posted Apr 11th 2010 1:00 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Jon Gosselin is "definitely open" to co-starring with ex-wife Kate Gosselin on a new TV project -- with one big string attached ... TMZ has learned.

Jon's lawyer, former assistant U.S. Attorney Anthony F. List, tells TMZ "under the right circumstances" Jon would do a show with Kate, but "the contract would have to be tighter." He did not elaborate, but we're guessing it has something to do with the way TLC cleaned Jon's clock in court.

List did not say what type of show he'd like to do, but said having Jon and Kate around the kids more would be a definite plus.

List says Jon would "love to settle" the latest legal dispute he ignited. TMZ broke the story that Jon filed legal papers asking for primary custody and child support. But Jon will press on with the case, unless Kate gives up her "global commitments." According to List, Jon feels Kate can't have it both ways -- being both a star and an attentive parent.

List says he and Jon both feel Kate is "addicted to the paparazzi." He says even if Kate is booted from "Dancing with the Stars" on Tuesday, he won't drop his custody case because Kate is "caught up in the glamour of Hollywood" and will take other jobs.

Now if Kate brings Jon along for the Hollywood tour, well apparently that's a whole other Oprah.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Can he get any dumber?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
she may be caught up in the glamour of it all, but it sounds like he is missing it too.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
"According to List, Jon feels Kate can't have it both ways -- being both a star and an attentive parent."

Wrong thing for him to say. This is going to bring working celeb moms out of the woodwork to skewer him anew. What a doofus!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
OG, that is the first thing I though of too.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 6:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Controlling much, Jon?

Amazing that HE is open to his opportunities but somehow Kate isn't allowed.. It is almost like ever time she takes a step toward making money, he is firmly attached to her like an anchor pulling her down if at all possible.

And what a joke if he thinks TLC wants him back.. oh and with a better contract to boot.. his idea of a contract is pretty laughable.. basically he gets to do or not do whatever he deems fit.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I kinda don't blame him. If she's jet setting off all over the country leaving the kids with nannies or sitters or whatever, and she's got primary custody and won't let the kids spend time with another parent...

I saw a picture of Ms Gosselin and the kids doing an Easter egg hunt. On her front lawn. In full view of the paps. Craving cameras much, Kate?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Amazing that HE is open to his opportunities but somehow Kate isn't allowed.. It is almost like ever time she takes a step toward making money, he is firmly attached to her like an anchor pulling her down if at all possible.

Wow! We see this situation completely different. Kate told Jon it was over and she and TLC have effectively tied his hands for the last year while Kate has been everywhere. Jon has NEVER had control. Kate wouldn't allow it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Cricket.. I don't know that Kate was the first to say it was over, but I don't remember having a whole lot of choice after he was caught in several embarrassing situations, but even if he was the perfect husband and she said it was over, that isn't unheard of or against the law, last I heard.

But Jon was still on the TLC payroll and he was to REMAIN getting his full salary at the time TLC announced that he would have a reduced role in the show, mainly because he was out of control and they couldn't count on him to be there.

Kate did nothing to cut off his income.

It was JON who cut off the show and both of their incomes.

That was total control.

And no matter what.. what gives him the right to play god with his ex wife's means of income, especially since he is still unemployed.. oh but he thinks he can manipulate TLC into paying him again, maybe.

Yeah we do see it differently.

And I sure can blame him..

Maybe those were fake Gosselin kids Jon was with in the pic in People last week? It sure looked like he was with them... At least four of them.

Sia
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03-10-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 4:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
You just have to wonder how the Gosselin children are processing all of the past year's events and worry if they're going to be able to cope. I did enjoy seeing the children on the show and hearing their cute speech patterns as they were growing up. You wonder if the kids will internalize any guilt over the series not continuing. It must be so weird for them to have had (seemingly) every waking moment captured on film and then have that gone overnight.

I've noticed too that the kids didn't really seem to visit other children in their homes to visit when the series was filming. Wonder if they have time for play-dates since the series has ended?

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
I just saw a promo on the Today show for yet another visit from Kate Gosselin came in here to see what she was doing.

Sia, personally, I would have a lot more respect for Kate if she had taken the last year to stay out of the public eye as much as possible, to reflect on how her choices contributed to the break up of her marriage and what that will do to her children. Instead, she's doing an angry paparazzi "dance" while putting herself and her children out there in front of their cameras once again.

We don't know if the children will internalize the events of the past year or not. Perhaps once their books come out (The Gosselin Six: What It's Really Like Growing Up on TV, Maddy: I Am Not a Brat!, What's Her Name: The Forgotten Gosselin...) we'll have some insight. I just wish Kate had put keeping her children away from paparazzi over getting free trips.

Go ahead, call me a "hater." I just find her choices very hypocritical.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Pris--I totally agree with ya there!! And your book titles are hilarious!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Quick Quiz, when you try to name all 8 kids real fast, who is the last one you can name??

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Mine is: well heck, I really can't even think of the name. It one of the sext. girls who is not leah or hannah!! Oh wait, it came to me--it is Alexis!

(Highlight to see)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
She can't NOT let him see the kids if there is an order to do so. If he has rights to his children, then all he has to do is exercise them and if she is hindering that, he can call the police.

If he's not able to see his children, there's probably a reason. You dont' think for a minute that if she was withholding the children against a court order he wouldn't have the cops there busting down the door?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, Kate admitted in divorce papers that they had been 'estranged' for two years. Was she lying to seek a quick divorce? Or..were they really living in name only for two years? I do believe she told Jon is was over the October before he ever talked to other women the next spring.

Escapee, he definately has visitation rights, like every other weekend or something like that, but with him not working and Kate gone a lot and expected to be gone more, why shouldn't he be with the children, rather than babysitters?

Also, it's ccme to light that their mediator for the divorce/visitation didn't recognize Jon's lawyer in PA, so Jon wasn't really represented re visitation. What makes me sick is Kate lying that Jon doesn't care to be with his chilren; yet she won't let him.

What is Kate afraid of...that they might start liking him more than her??

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Are we forgetting that he moved to another state with is little tartlet?

My SMIL likes to say that her ex kept her away from her children when they were little. What she fails to remember is that she was a partier who moved from California where her kids were to Colorado to follow some fling. That makes visitation a little more difficult eh? AND her ex said she could have visitation as long as she was consistent. He didn't want her flitting in and out as she pleased.
She does not like to be reminded of that when she starts in on how bad her ex was.

I wonder if it's the same thing with Jon? Placing the blame on Kate so he can continue being a playboy...

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I have yet to have it explained to me in a way I understand (i admit i am slow ) why Kate has to lay low and not be in the public eye or can't pursue a career in showbiz.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I guess those who would respect Kate if she stayed home for a year (with no income?) really respect Jon for not working?

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey AMEN! Someone has to feed that brood.

Really sounds fishy that he would do the show and drop his suit... I think he just wants back in the show for the $$$ only and is trying use threats on Kate to force the issue.

Good luck with that one buddy.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Texannie: Because people don't like Kate's attitude or the way she treated her bumbling, passive aggressive, didn't want that many kids in the first place, husband.

If Kate is keeping him from the kids, it's probably because she doesn't want pot smoking, alcoholic tarts screwing their dad in the next room while they watch spongebob.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Escapee, I shouldnt eat my lunch when I read your posts.... It almost came back up!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
so if someone isn't liked, they can only earn a living in particular designated fields....what exactly are those fields?

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, April 12, 2010 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Who said Kate had to stay home for a year and not work? But complaining about paparazzi while continuing to put herself and her kids in the public eye is hypocritical.

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