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Sarasmile
Member
02-09-2007
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 11:25 am
By the end of that two hours, I was curled up in the fetal position, so depressed I barely had the energy to pick up the phone and call DFACS to turn in the mom who didn't notice that her daughter hadn't been eating and drinking FOR DAYS... Seriously - much bigger problems in that household than obesity, IMO. I found very few people that I could relate to and root for in this cast. Hopefully that will change when the show begins.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 1:47 pm
I have been looking forward to this show starting and was very, very disappointed in last nights episode. It was just cruel to have all three get on the scale and then only take two. Did not like that at all. I agree that it seems like the person that most needed it was eliminated. I ended up tuning out. I will however check back next week to see what happens.
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 22, 2010 - 3:11 pm
I thought it was cruel too Country. Felt bad for the one who had to stay behind, usually in pain, and watch the other 2 drive off in a limo! Way too much concentration on the sad story last night. I have never seen so heartache on this show before. Wonder how that guy who collapsed during the run made out. I was really getting anxious that we were going to see someone just up and drop dead last night! These people have not done anything in the way of exercise in a long time and to have them doing this kind of working out was risky--even if they had medical techs on hand.
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Happygal
Member
11-15-2004
| Thursday, September 23, 2010 - 9:50 am
I suspect that the 3 people chosen in each city had very detailed medical check-ups long before the crew showed up to film. There were probably a group of people chosen, checked-out, and then the producers chose the 3 to highlight based on sob stories, number of women/men needed to balance out the final totals, etc.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, September 24, 2010 - 12:10 pm
i wrote a long post then somehow deleted it before posting. My feelings as to HOW the first show was done Gratuitous Sob stories which may or may NOT be true. How about at least ONE contestant that says... Hey, its my fault I love to eat!
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 24, 2010 - 12:20 pm
At first I was not happy with eliminating one of the contestants in such a public manner, but them I thought...hey! I've seen this before. I figured out that some if not all of these folks would have another opportunity at some point along the way. No way are they going to be this cruel to these folks. Yeah...the sob stories are tough. I REALLY enjoyed seeing Mike Morelli and Mark from previous seasons helping out. That I still remember their names says how much I liked them. I waited for Mark to cry, but he got through it without shedding a single tear. Just kidding...loved that man. Still loving this show, can't wait to get to know these folks better, and most of all to be inspired by them and watch their success. I'll be cheering them on every step of the way...unless of course there is a Melissa or a Vicki lurking about. In that case... all bets are off. PS Thanks to Seamonkey and Jimmer for making this area so much easier to follow! I swear if it weren't for Jimmer's banners I'd never learn all the names, and Seamonkey's charts really help me to see the progress being made. Thanks so much you guys!
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-28-2004
| Friday, September 24, 2010 - 6:39 pm
Death seemed to be the theme. The lady who lost her son to cancer when he was 3 really messed me up. I kept looking at Reese and thinking he's 3 years old...how would I handle losing him at 3...and they had to show pictures of her son in the hospital. The one where he was standing by the bed with his hands in the air...you could see it in his eyes...I still see those eyes. On a lighter note...not sure if it was across the country, but at the end of the show here...the voice over guy was like "now grab your snacks and get ready for a new episode of (I forget which show)" The irony...
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Saturday, September 25, 2010 - 7:39 am
I'm wondering if The Biggest Loser has heard so may people say they can't lose weight because of the tragedies and problems in their lives and want to show people these things can be overcome. Sure it is being used as a hook by the show, but there are many people like this. My best friend is an example of this. I won't give up on her, but someday maybe she can get overcome her past and lose weight.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 6:33 am
Nickoftyme-that story really got to me, too! I still think of the contestant, Abby that lost her husband and young children in a car accident!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Sunday, September 26, 2010 - 12:18 pm
I think that they are trying to show that weight loss is not a physical issue but instead a manifestation of our mental issues...but hopefully they don't play it up too much...not to make light of these people's tragic lives, but I don't want to focus on that non-stop this year...life sucks enough as it is!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 4:12 am
true roxip,i hope they dont keep this theme going. weight loss is not a physical issue but instead a manifestation of our mental issues. and that is untrue for most people. I truly dont believe that most grossly obese people have severe mental issues. We ALL have stuff in our past we dwell on. its human nature. however, as someone who is NOW 100lbs overweight due DIRECTLY to my disability and thyroid , i'd like to say that I too had issues...when i was 117lbs !! I was that weight for almost 15 yrs. The people i knew that were obese were all that way due to their Incredible love of rich food. Sugar and salty things are relatively addictive. Some people just seem to crave them more. To try to blame obesity on some event is basically a copout to me. Yes Depression can make a person gain weight..... BUT not hundreds of pounds. We also see the contestants with slim healthy wives and children. the women usually have plump husbands but NOT obese.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, September 28, 2010 - 7:31 am
I think it is a series of issues, all inter-related. Diet, exercise and psychological issues can all combine to create the perfect storm...but as Dr. Phil told Oprah one time...that it all starts with putting food in your mouth. Some people manage their issues better than others. (I don't to be perfectly honest.)
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 11:53 am
It is always hard to see the first one go. I can't really figure out why they chose they way they did, unless they wanted to keep the weak link for the future. Tina was definitely a weak link because of her age, but also because she wasn't 100% sure of her committment to the program. On the other hand, Allie did lose the least % so that was valid reasoning as well. Man those guys sure put up some HUGE numbers didn't they? Week 2 is going to be interesting!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 12:27 pm
I wondered if they felt that Alli had already had the bypass surgery and had regained the weight, so they wondered if she could commit to maintaining the lifestyle once she was off the show. But good for her -- she looked fabulous! Huge numbers, even over a 2-week period. I wonder where they went...we saw them leaving in the limos supposedly on their way to the house but were they really there for two weeks straight? These group seems to be in better physical shape (relatively speaking) than the last contestants...no truly trashed out knees, etc., which is good because sometimes the pain that people last year suffered really was excrutiating to watch (as I am sure it was to feel!).
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, October 04, 2010 - 11:19 am
premature bump 
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 5:44 am
No more having to listen to Tina whine.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 6:40 am
Which is a good thing. I really like Lisa so I hope she stays around longer...well, not so sure I like Lisa that much but I really feel for her with her issues with her daughter. That must have been the scariest thing ever! Not liking the trio of men banding together, and feel like this might get to be a real man/woman competition and the women always lose in that aspect, since men are better equipped to lose large amounts of weight. I also didn't like Jessica joining with the men in getting out the other women first. She's kind of irritated me so far, although I admire her determination. I really want Burgandy to do well too, and so far she hasn't. Hopefully next week she will get a huge drop since her weight loss so far hasn't been outstanding, and it seems that she is working hard.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 8:51 am
Perhaps this has already been posted...of course this is from last year's show. These two are losers in love. While shooting a special still set to air later this season, season nine Biggest Loser alum Sam Poueu, 24, proposed to former castmate Stephanie Anderson, 30, Monday at a ranch in Calabasas, Calif., according to Us Weekly. Stephanie, a radio sales executive, and Sam, a football coach and security guard, fell in love while shooting the series late last year and have so far combined to drop a whopping 241 pounds. The two had begun dating early in the season (he was competing with his cousin, she with her mom) and were in love by the third episode, which aired earlier this year. And although neither took home the top prize during the finale, looks like these two came out the biggest winners.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 5:18 am
Roxip thanks for the update...I enjoy hearing positive stories. I am having a hard time enjoying the show this year after reading several former contestants comments about how they were really treated on the show. I cringe each time Bob or Jillian come on tell us how much they are looking forward to pounding the contestants during work outs. I hate the hollering and screaming and bullying. In reality, I feel the show has very little to offer in the aspect of real life and losing weight and becoming healthy. What is seen on the show is not reality or even possible for the common person who suffers from obesity. It is not even healthy to lose 30 lbs in 2 weeks.....I have never heard a nutritionist, physician, or therapist even suggest 30lbs in 2 weeks is realistic or healthy. The product placement scenes are a reminder that producers, Bob, and Jillian are insincere and just there to make money. Have to look at this show as just another reality show that uses people with out respect or regard to their health or dignity to make money. This is only my recent observations and not intended to suggest others should see things the same.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 7:19 am
I understand what you are saying, Boberg, but in my eyes I see people who have been unable to get motivated by themselves to lose weight and thus have made themselves very sick...but this show removes them from their comfort zones, their enablers (and they all have them), their excuses...and puts them into a whole different world where their only job is to exercise, learn to eat right and take care of themselves. To me that would be a gift. Yes, they are forced to work out for long periods of time under less than perfect conditions, but I never get the impression that Bob and Jillian don't care for these people. It is my opinion that the reason that these people are so obese is because people have always pussyfooted around them and almost killed them with gentle love. And the product placement...that is a part of everyday life in today's marketplace and it helps pay the bills...and the products they are promoting are at least healthy. It's not like they are shilling Ben & Jerrys on the show. The other thing is that nobody forced the past contestants to be on the show. They volunteered for it, and to afterward cry and whine about their treatment seems ludicrous to me. They have the option of walking away from the ranch at any given time, do they not? I do agree, however, that this is a "don't try this at home" type of situation. It is like gastric bypass...yes there is a huge initial weight loss, but if you don't confront the issues that made you obese in the first place at the end of the show (or after about the first year post-bypass) you are going to gain the weight back. What these people get on the show is a huge head start towards getting the weight off...but they need to understand that the work has just begun and that changing your eating and exercise habits is a daily, life-long struggle for people who have suffered from an eating disorder which made them obese for most of their lives.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 8:08 am
I have to say that I have become increasingly disillusioned with this show. Oddly enough I don't mind the product placements. In fact, I find the often awkward way that Bob and Jillian work them into the show rather amusing. That doesn't hurt anyone and they've got to pay the bills. What bothers me is the unrealistic expectations the show creates regarding weight loss and physical fitness and the emotional manipulation, ostensibly for the viewer's enjoyment. For example, taking two enormous and unfit people and asking them to push themselves beyond their limits with the highly emotional and devastated "loser" of the competition not being allowed to continue is not my idea of a fun evening of entertainment. I think that the show has placed too much emphasis on the game and less and less emphasis on healthy sustainable weight loss done with care and kindness.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 8:39 am
At least this season TPTB have given the cast the opportunity to change the teams every week. And by making it percentage rather than lbs, the lighter females have a chance to win. Just because it hasn't happened in the first few episodes doesn't mean that it won't in the future. Still will love to eliminate voting.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 8:10 pm
Remember, the first "week" weight loss includes quite a bit of water weight - hence the slow down on week two as the body equalizes. And they are pushing to burn enough calories (and eat minimally) to lose 1-2 lbs per day (deficit of 7000 kcal/d).

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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 4:29 am
.that it all starts with putting food in your mouth LOL gotta love that dr phil. Oversimplistic tho. Wanna hear a Mystery? i had a month long flu '98. By the second week i was running fevers and too sick to leave house / had no food in house. A can of Pepsi, A lemon and an apple for the week (lots of hot water) ---- i gained seven permanent lbs. No doctor can explain it to me. i've only gained weight five times in my life. Each time it is over 2-4 weeks and then NO FLUCTUATION of weight for years. we have Zero idea of why weight suddenly goes on, where and WHY it happens and WHAT the heck i can do to get it off. Sometimes i am sick with something / a couple of times was on Antibiotics/ meds of some kind exercise is impossible (physically and i dont wish to go into my conditions) Dieting / cal reduction is also impossible since due to food allergies and Gluten probs I'm on a very restrictive diet already for years. Average day 900-1400 calories. According to all experts it is impossible to maintain my 100 extra lbs with such a low intake. most of my foods are raw and organic I'm not asking for advice. when I post I know I sound extremely negative. So i'm basically laying it out there cause it irritates me. my first weightgain was 25lbs in spring '86 - I used to be very active until 2000. <<5 min Mile!! Ah yes, the good ol days.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 5:03 am
Sunshyne you are so right. It is not always as simple as "calories in, calories out". The research on obesity is still in its infancy stages. They do suspect that obese people have malfunctioning leptin receptors. Originally thought it was insuficient leptin but studies showed that obese persons had an abundance of leptin but it did not appear to cause satiety as it does in non obese persons there fore they now suspect it is a mal-functioning of the receptors. Anyway, I get your frustration.
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