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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 9:16 am
It sure wouldn't have been my choice to forego birth control, but I can't fault the Duggers for their choices. They are responsible citizens and as such, I admire them.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 9:51 am
So, who decides what's right, who sets the bar for common sense here? In this example, Michelle with input from Jim Bob & her doctor. BUT, what is common sense? It's easy when you are talking about something like putting your hand on a hot burner. Common sense directs you DO NOT put your hand on the hot burner. And I think there would be almost 100% agreement in this situation. But in other situations, is it common sense that should drive you, or your convictions, your experiences. [I'm trying to think of another word here but just can't pull it off of my tongue. Something not to do with morals or the such.] Take person A. Person A likes to bungee jump. Person ME says, anybody with common sense would no know to jump off a cliff, even if you have a stretchy cord attached to stop you from hitting the ground. Are either of us wrong? No. Does common sense really come to play in this scenario? Not really, but person ME uses it as a reason NOT do do the activity. But just because ME uses it, doesn't mean Person A does not have or did not use common sense. These are deeply religious people who care about pleasing God above all things. For how many of us is that our number 1 priority? We can't forget tho that not everybody believes in the same God, or even believes in God at all.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 10:43 am
I don't think the girls would be out hanging at the mall even if they didn't have younger siblings to buddy with. That's not the sort of the thing the Duggars value. I believe their educational, religous, and political views would still be the same if they had 4 children. They have chosen to raise their children in what some may call a sheltered enviroment. I don't think that decision was made because they have alot of kids.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:05 am
I don't think that decision was made because they have alot of kids. Totally agree!
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:35 am
Serate said: We can't forget tho that not everybody believes in the same God, or even believes in God at all. But isn't that immaterial to the Duggars? They live their lives according to their beliefs. While no one can tell you which Bible to read or God to believe in, neither should anyone else impose their belief system upon the Duggars. We should learn to accept them as they believe and if we disagree then opt to not watch the program instead of passing judgement on their beliefs and actions, and number of children with which they've accepted as blessings, or with how they choose to raise them. These are decent, moral, upstanding people. They're not teaching their kids to be drug pushers or welfare frauds. They're teaching them to be good examples, moral and upstanding citizens. I was impressed with how they baked and took treats to all the firefighters, sheriffs, and police departments and made handmade cards thanking them for their service. They're well traveled, well spoken, intelligent children. I don't see how any harm has come to them from being part of a large family. I, personally, find them refreshing and inspirational.
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:37 am
Oh...forgot...on the bungee jumping. I've got to go with person ME. Person A is out of their mind. (I just heard a skull crack on a rock as person A jumped)
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 11:52 am
What does the father do for a living to support all these children?
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:22 pm
They own rental property and make a income from that. They both did work in realestate. I can not begrudge this family at all. They are not on welfare. They pay thier own way. They are feeding & clothing there family. I like thier family values.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:23 pm
Misspoufy, I totally agree with you.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:23 pm
Grooch, in several episodes, Daddy Duggar has said their main income is from the rent from their commercial properties that they own. I would imagine they get a hefty sum from TLC, too.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 12:37 pm
they are also debt free; even before TLC came onto the picture. their philosphy is 'buy used and save the difference'.
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 1:15 pm
Referencing Texannie's post.... That is why I was a little confused when someone upthread referred to them as "money hungry" I'm not sure what was meant by that. Don't we all try to stay as financially sound as possible?
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 1:17 pm
Maybe because I am just a very casual observer of this show (seen it a handful of times) but I'm not sure I understand whats so wrong about the older kids looking after the younger ones? In most of the families we know, that's just expected of the kids. You're a family, you look after each other, support each other, and help each other. We expect our kids to help each other with chores, to keep an eye on each other when they're playing outside, we expect Caleb to help Kota with homework and Kota to be a sounding board for Caleb when practicing his guitar. My oldest niece (10) changes her baby sisters (2) diapers and gives her baths, watches her when they play outside, and often will fix her breakfast or lunch when she makes her own. Caleb, Kota, and oldest niece often take the two younger neices off to play and we know the older ones will look after the younger ones. That's not to say Darren and I or sis and bil aren't doing these things as well. It's just part of the responsibility of belonging to a family for the kids to look after and help each other. As a result, they are close to each other and they're learning to trust in and depend on each other.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 1:56 pm
I also don't have a problem with their children not hanging out at the mall and being influenced by our current culture...wish I had been stricter on my own child about this type of thing.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 3:13 pm
I thought the money hungry ref was about TLC. didn't check up thread though.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 3:28 pm
Referencing Texannie's post.... That is why I was a little confused when someone upthread referred to them as "money hungry" I'm not sure what was meant by that. Don't we all try to stay as financially sound as possible perhaps the assumption is if you are on a reality show the only reason to do it is for the money.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 3:42 pm
I can't find any problem with them making money off TLC; more power to them. At least we can be fairly sure they're not wasting it ala Jon Gosselin.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 5:15 pm
I didn't say Michelle shouldn't get pregnant. Heck, she can HAVE the whole village for what it's worth. I was wondering about her health. Her last pregnancy almost killed her. Yup, her Dr's have probably all checked her out. But, it seems like another pregnancy might be risky. Heck, let her go be fruitful, but she needs to be aware that another child could be born early. Oh yes, I know many women have risky pregnancies. But, how many have had that many kids? I'm not saying they aren't nice people. I'm not saying they don't deserve to have that many kids, either. As a side note, years ago they did have bigger families, but they died young, too. My gggrandmother died after childbirth. That was in 1882.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 5:24 pm
Serate said: We can't forget tho that not everybody believes in the same God, or even believes in God at all. But isn't that immaterial to the Duggars? They live their lives according to their beliefs. I totally agree. BUT what I was responding to These are deeply religious people who care about pleasing God above all things. For how many of us is that our number 1 priority? . For people who do not believe in the same God, or any God at all, it wouldn't matter that the Duggars are just following "Gods will". So to these people it matters not that God is the Duggars number 1 priority. Because it isn't their priority at all.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 5:55 pm
Her last pregnancy almost killed her it did?
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 6:34 pm
Wow, I was gone all day and I see this thread has been busy. By the looks of the last 2 pages, it seems that a lot of liberty is being taken with some posts. If my earlier post was re-read, it seems pretty apparent that people are reading far more into what I said than I actually did. I DO think it's normal for kids to socialize with others outside of their family. I have not criticized the Duggars for how they choose to raise their children. And I have said numerous times that I enjoy this show and this family. What the Duggars or anyone else does, doesn't affect my life in the least. I am entitled to state my feelings that I don't happen to think that it is normal for any family today to have 19 children. Whether the parents can support them or not is not and has not been an issue for me. I simply think it is not the norm today.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 6:50 pm
I realize it's quite a ways from 19, but my son-in-law is one of 13 children...his mother was one of 13 children and his father was one of 13 children. My grandchildren have cousins coming out of their ears.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, February 04, 2010 - 7:41 pm
Oh well, I still like watching them. Those girls are just beautiful, those boys are such little characters. A friend of mine used thier recipe for making her own detergent.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:47 pm
Ophiliasgrandma, I'd be afraid to marry that guy with his family's track record!! 
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, February 05, 2010 - 1:47 pm
My DD and Louie had only 3 children who are now 26, 24 and 19. All of Louie's siblings have smallish families. The 'buck' stopped with Louie's generation. A few of the cousins are married, but not many kids.
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