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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 7:13 am
If she invested before the stock market crashed, it's not all that lucrative now... just saying.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 7:19 am
<<There is investment income, and after four years of their show, I'm guessing that most people would willingly live on that interest.>> How much does Kate have in the bank? How much is for the household and how much is in trust for the children? How much does it cost to raise 8 children? <<BUT there is no way. NO. FLIPPING. WAY. that I will believe that Kate struggled or would struggle like your average "Twinkie.">> Why should she? <<She should have for sure, taken at least a year off, or at least 6 months, to devote 100% of her time with the kids.>> They are Kate's children to raise. Does she tell other people how to raise theirs?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 7:46 am
"In my heart, I'm always in my kitchen baking and cooking for my kids -- and I'll always be there." I'd almost believe this if she didn't have a personal chef. This is no regular Mom who does all for her children. Kate is out there because she wants the perks; however, her personality is just not one that will get her far. She is never happy with what she has, but is constantly whining, as she is in the above article...."Wahhhh...I'm a single Mom." If I had a dollar for every time she's said that to the umm...paparazzi that she professes to hate...I'd be a wealthy person. Again, Kate is the one who decided she didn't want Jon around anymore and MADE HERSELF a single Mom. It's not like Jon was leaving her or asked for a divorce; it was the other way around. She chose it and now whines about it daily. It's so annoying. I pray the tabloids do leave her alone...permanently.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 7:52 am
I don't know for a fact that she has a personal chef. Even if she did, we have people who post on this board who have housecleaners (who don't have 8 children). We also have posters who share that they go out to eat multiple times a week. I guess they should be blasted as well?
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:15 am
<I don't know for a fact that she has a personal chef. Even if she did, we have people who post on this board who have housecleaners (who don't have 8 children). We also have posters who share that they go out to eat multiple times a week. I guess they should be blasted as well?> Huh??? Are the posters on this board (who may or may not have a housecleaner?!?) going on TV, pleading poverty and declaring how much they love their kids while leaving them for days on end and at the same time bitterly complaining about the attention they so desperately seek and constantly trolling for sympathy? I've seen some strange questions posted on here, but asking if posters deserve to be blasted for merely having a housecleaner or eating out? How does this even begin to compare to Kate Gosselin? I'm at a loss for words.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:21 am
Huh??? Are the posters on this board (who may or may not have a housecleaner?!?) going on TV, pleading poverty and declaring how much they love their kids while leaving them for days on end and at the same time bitterly complaining about the attention they so desperately seek and constantly trolling for sympathy I've never heard her plead poverty or any proof that she is leaving her kids for days at a time. In fact, all I've heard her say is she's doing this to support her kids and that she is flying back and forth so much so she doesn't have to leave her kids for days at a time. There are lots of people out there who travel for work.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:26 am
I haven't seen Kate "...bitterly complaining about the attention they so desperately seek and constantly trolling for sympathy..." We disagree, it' simple.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:44 am
If they bought annuities, that isn't free income for now.. say, in the college funds Kate has talked about. And besides, I'd say it is an individual choice and only the person knows if they really could afford to take time off. I remember last year AFTER I was diagnosed with cancer, I had a neighbor suggest that because my medical insurance premium was high, why not switch to this discount insurance company she found.. uh.. yeah, right in the middle of being treated and who turned her into an insurance expert anyway? Just saying here that it is easy for people to say what someone else should or could do but they aren't living that person's whole life so they don't really know what is best. And unless there is a really HUGE investment, living on the interest income is laughable.. looked at rates recently? The only place I've read about a personal chef is here in this thread. Are we back to the fifties where women often stayed in an unhappy marriage for financial security? And even in the fifties would someone like Jon have provided that financial security.. don't think so.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:47 am
Re my 4/13 10:50 p.m. post...I didn't post the entire article. I had copied part of it and realized maybe it was too long so I posted the link at the end of my post. After she talks about baking and cooking she also said this: ""I'm on the first flight. As soon as the show lets me out I'm on a plane and that's my night of sleep. I get home and dance and I'm done by the time they're home from school and I spend the rest of the week with them. It's difficult," said Kate on Today. "I make the most of every moment I do have with them and I have a lot of conversations with them. They know that I have to work, they know that I have to go -- they don't like it, but when I'm home, we make those little spots of time really big in our memories." Maybe she doesn't bake or cook every day, maybe she does every day that she is home, which seems to be almost every day since she flies out for the show and back home right after and practices at home....regardless of how often she bakes and cooks at home, that is where her heart is. She isn't necessarily being literal or maybe she is being literal. We don't know. She has a lot of years to have to financially provide for 8 children plus herself. She can make a lot of money doing tv shows and interviews, much more than nursing ... and... she gets to spend much more time WITH her kids than if she had a mon-fri 9-5 job. She and Jon talked about this while they were married...their jobs, after a while, were the J&K+8 show where they got to make the money to provide for their family by working while being with the kids and the kids now have substantial college funds that they earned themselves by being on the show. Kate probably knows that her time making money by doing tv shows may be short lived so she is making financially sound decisions on employment right now AND she is not overall working lots of hours when her kids are not at school. Just because she (for a relatively short period of time) made a lot of money in the past and possibly invested it doesn't mean that she will always have enough to provide for 8 kids for a lot of years and herself for life. I think it is much better for that family financially that Kate did not take big periods of time off from making money. Good for her. I don't think it is at the expense of her kids because she is with them a lot more than if she had a m-f 9-5 job.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 9:52 am
I really have to wonder how far beyond their means that Kate and Jon were living. I think they thought the gravy train they were on had no stops or end of the line! One would think they had saved wisely and could take a year or half-year to spend time with the kids and get them through the divorce and adjusted to the changes, but like most Americans I have a feeling they spent beyond their means and probably couldn't do that. They don't get my sympathies for that. The kind of money they were earning (not to mention the freebies) are so beyond what most of us working people make that the comparisons are pale to me.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:04 am
I don't think it would be that hard to live, stay at home with the kids for a while to help them through the divorce, maybe work on a new book, since she gets $20,000 a month from Jon. I don't know many people with that monthly income before investments.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:06 am
I wonder if Jon is actually paying any child support.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:16 am
Kate has always said that she wanted her kids to have the best of everything. That is her mindset. Living day to day, paycheck to paycheck isn't going to get those kids the best. She's doing what she thinks is needed to give her children the best she can. Isn't that what we all do?
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:19 am
If I had the opportunity to do what Kate is doing, I would if it brought in more money. Heck, I work 2 jobs now to try to give them the best.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:43 am
This morning I finally had a chance to catch up on reading this thread; I've been busy with personal commitments and kidlet appointments: DS got his spacers for braces on Monday, etc.! Let me preface my post by saying that I do like Kate; I've liked her since the initial documentary TLC did on her and Jon and the kids. She had me the first time I saw the clip of her rolling over in her hospital bed, enormous, Saran-wrapped, pregnant belly between her hands and a grin on her face. I remember thinking, "Oh, my god, how can the skin stretch that much?" and then "What a miracle, and they're all healthy." As I continued to watch Jon & Kate, I had a whole lot of different feelings about them. Sometimes I sided with Jon when Kate made critical comments about/to him, and sometimes I could see how Kate found his immaturity trying. Often I'd watch the show when DH was home and I'd say, "See, honey? Aren't you glad I'm not like that?" usually in reaction to Kate's perfectionism or some other perceived flaw. I've flip-flopped over the years, sometimes adoring Kate and sometimes wanting to throw something at the TV. RN, I want to see her succeed, and I give her the benefit of the doubt every time I can. My husband and I have just two kids to feed, spend time with, shape morally, and try to send to college some day. Kate has FIVE TIMES that many, and her time to earn money is now, NOW. Acting, or being a celebrity, even a minor celebrity, can be a fleeting thing. Just because a person is hot/current/popular at any given point doeesn't mean he/she will be in demand in six months or a year. The public is fickle, our interest waxes and wanes. Kate could gain weight (Kevin Federline, but god bless him for losing it on Celebrity Fit Club!), or she could have a tragic accident (Natasha Richardson). Nothing is guaranteed. She has the opportunity to make some serious money now, and she is a strong enough person not to care if she gets criticism while doing it. The bravest thing in the world is for her to dance on national TV--KNOWING SHE CAN'T DANCE. I just want her to stay on DWTS long enough to really get better at dancing. It was great to see Kate have her "mini-breakthrough" and genuinely smile with pride at her accomplishment. Personally, I have been less critical of Kate's behavior since her public break-up with Jon than of his behavior. Kate's not a cougar with some random new boy-toy on her arm every other week. I think she's handled herself with dignity, and she has a very fit, toned body. Yes, she's gotten free plastic surgery, Zoom whitening, spray tan, free vacations/travel, hair extensions, blah-blah, ad infinitum--and I'd love to have that stuff, too. But I can't, so I just say "good on ya, Kate." My post is not directed at anyone here; I'm just stating things how I see them.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:46 am
She refers to DWTS as a job. Really? How much is she getting paid to do this? Is she paying for the cost to put in a dance floor in her home, to fly back and forth between LA and wherever she lives? I think I'd care a lot less if she actually looked like she was enjoying what she was doing and was halfway decent at it. But to go out there and do this and then whine about it, about being a single mom and being away from her kids? Yeah, she signed up for this. I didn't.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 10:55 am
Wow, this is interesting. Just ran across this while I was reading something about Sharon Osbourne: http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/gosselin-relatives-testify-at-pennsylvania-child-labor-laws-hearing-10771.php Gosselin relatives to testify at Pennsylvania child labor laws hearing By Christopher Rocchio, 04/14/2010 Two Kate Gosselin relatives who have previously stated the former Jon & Kate Plus 8 star and her ex-husband Jon Gosselin exploited their children and treated them like commodities by allowing them to appear on the TLC reality series will now get a chance to say the same thing to lawmakers. Kate's brother Kevin Kreider and his wife Jodi will testify on Wednesday at a Pennsylvania state legislative hearing on child labor laws, The Associated Press reported Tuesday. The hearing was called by Rep. Thomas Murt, who is looking to prevent the exploitation of children who appear in movies and television shows. Kevin and Jodi originally made their claims on The Early Show last May. "We're speaking out now because we want to be the voice of our nieces and nephews and we're seeing it turn tide that they're being viewed as a commodity," said Kevin at the time. "They're being exploited and it's time for America to see the situation for what it really is," Jodi added. "Unfortunately there are no laws protecting children in reality TV shows and its time for the public to be aware of this and that these children are very aware of the cameras in their home. Their home is their workplace and this is not a healthy environment for kids to be raised in." While Jon originally labeled the characterization as "ridiculous," he later claimed to have reconciled with Kevin and Jodi and expressed "regret" when he demanded TLC stop filming his children because it had become "detrimental" to them. State labor officials subsequently investigated Jon & Kate Plus 8's production for possible child labor law violations but did not release any findings.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:10 am
What is their testimony going to do now? It's over and done with and the children are no longer on TV or working. What good can come from this? Jodi and Kevin have been jealous of Kate & Jon's fame since day one.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:35 am
The brother and sis-in-law have been out of the picture for quite a while. I found it odd that their testimony would be relevant now, after such a long time. Hmm, it remains to be seen.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 11:57 am
Escapee, it's not done and over. A few days ago Kate announced that the kids are returning to the tv show with several specials this year. TMZ has a snipet of Kate's brother testifying at the hearing today. I had to turn my volume way up to hear it. http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/14/kate-gosselin-brother....
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:00 pm
Naja, can you summarize what he said?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:02 pm
Brenda, He said something about how they set up a fake Christmas to film the kid's reaction while coming down the stairs and seeing everything, and then didn't tell them until afterwards that it really wasn't Christmas yet, and that the kids were all confused.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:27 pm
Wow. Can't imagine what a warped sense of reality the kids have. And shame on TLC for doing those kinds of set ups. Some "reality", huh.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 12:42 pm
From People magazine The Pennsylvania Department of Labor & Industry will not be filing charges against Jon & Kate Plus 8 producers, who were under investigation for potentially violating state child labor laws. According to a letter issued last month, but released Wednesday, producers must obtain child-permits if they wish to film the Gosselin children in the future. They must also allocate a portion of the proceeds into a trust fund for kids, the Associated Press reported. "Kate and I were doing what was best for our family," Jon Tweeted Wednesday. "And it gave us an opportunity to spend quality family time together." Kate's brother and sister-in-law Kevin and Jodi Kreider, who have spoken out against the show, were expected to testify Wednesday as Pennsylvania state lawmakers hold hearings to review child labor laws for TV and film production. "The allegations made today by Kevin and Jodi Kreider have not been my experience at all during the production of Jon & Kate Plus 8," Jon said in another tweet.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, April 14, 2010 - 2:08 pm
I wonder if the producers of 19 and Counting, Table for 12, Little People/Big World have work permits for the kids?
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