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Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, May 31, 2010 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Luann's name on Twitter is CountessLuann so I'm fairly certain that she hasn't given up the title. I recall a scene when she was speaking of her impending divorce where she told a few or one of the women that she was allowed to keep the title.

Lil I haven't watched but the first show of RHoNJ this year. I cannot tolerate Danielle or the NJ show this year, it's either boring or ridiculous. I do like Dina alot and hope that she doesn't leave the show. She's said she might, because I think NJ can rebound they'll just have to change things up drastically for me to want to watch.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Reality Tea has a new article up about the Villa blowup. If they are to be trusted, and who knows, they say the confrontation went on for hours. According to Reality Tea and Sonja, Kelly was escorted out. Has anyone else read this article?

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
No, haven't read that, but I think there have been so many hints by the housewives who were there that it is probably true.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Season finale is this week.

And yes, I definitely believe the Kelly drama went on for hours. As to her leaving, I'm pretty sure she was escorted out. As to whether she was escorted cuz she was acting like a nut job or escorted because the producers feared for the other women, I don't know.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Someone needs to set up a help section. I am a somewhat intelligent person. I have no clue why I enjoy watching this garbage! I am totally addicted! I need therapy :-)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Or maybe she was just escorted back to New York so she didn't travel by herself (that could be a contractual thing, too).

I don't know that Bravo would ask her to leave (and thus set her off again). I can see them asking her if she wants to leave, and manipulating her into doing so. With her there, all we would get was drama. Without her (and Jill), we had some fun to balance the drama.

Ratings talk. The only way Bravo will change anything is if the ratings start to suffer. The housewives may not choose to come back (I think Bethenny tweeted she would come back for another season after her lobotomy). If you want Bravo to ditch Kelly for her own "health," stop watching and tell them why you aren't watching.

If I saw evidence that Kelly's bizarre behavior (not the silliness we see each week, but the bizarreness we saw on the island) was directed toward anyone other than Bethenny or about anyone other than Bethenny, then I might start to think she had a mental illness. But it is too focused on Bethenny alone for me to think it's anything other than Kelly despising Bethenny and being too dumb and immature to hide it.

Remember, Bethenny got on Kelly's bad side the very first time we saw them meet on the show, with her "You come from a place of no, I come from a place of yes," and "Who does she think she is, Madonna?" comments. A grown-up would have let that go by now. Kelly isn't a grown-up.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Kelly speaks out on bullying

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uv1w1Hc45nM&feature=youtu.be&a

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Prionse, Kelly did tart attacking Alex at the dinner table at the villa and calling her a vampire and channelig the devil.

Then the next week, she was attacking Ramona at Jill's skating party and wouldn't stop even though Ramona kept telling her that it wasn't the time or place to be discusiing it and they could talk later.

I guess once Kelly feels dissed she will never let it go.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Prionse, Kelly did tart attacking Alex at the dinner table at the villa and calling her a vampire and channelig the devil.

Because Alex delivered Bethenny's "We're done" message to Jill.

I guess once Kelly feels dissed she will never let it go.

Ayup.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I watched that video Tero - Kelly is off the hook.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 3:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm never ever gonna click a You Tube link for Kelly ever again. Aside from the fact that she's "off the hook" (or clueless), I'm no longer going to contribute to the "Oh lookie I got a bazillion hits on my You Tubes" for that woman. Ever!

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
I have no comment on this...

NY Daily News

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yup, those two need to go back to their own little planet. Two peas in a pod, those two.

Way2prissy
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07-21-2002

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2prissy a private message Print Post    
So I just watched LuAnn's music video for her "song." It seems elegance cannot buy you class, however it CAN buy you several men half your age to fondle provocatively while wearing hair extensions and a tight dress. Just my observation.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, June 01, 2010 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
Prisoner, I've been meaning to post; I completely agree with you about Kelly. She is completely focused on Bethenny and has allowed that jealousy to overwhelm her. I don't think she's mentally ill either. Just off the rails jealous.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 4:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
Oh no,not good for the newest housewife.....seems she was drinking and driving,which I just don't understand when you have all that money,HIRE someone to drive you around

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2010/06/real-housewife-sonja-morgan-arrested-dwi

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 4:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I disagree about Kelly and mental illness. I think she meets the criteria for paranoia.

Bad Sonja for the DUI. When you are a TINY woman like Sonja, you really cannot drink anything and get in a car. Thank God she didn't injure anyone.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
rofll way2prissy - our new soap opera habit!! I thought I'd miss Guiding Light! ;)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Wendo.

Paranoia is a symptom, not a disorder. I know some people have "diagnosed" Kelly as having paranoid personality disorder, but again, we only see her supposed paranoia manifest in relation to Bethenny.

The best example of this is the whole one night stand/ho-bag incident. Sonja is the one who said Kelly should have a one night stand, that she was born again, etc. Kelly, because Bethenny was in the room and admitted to having a one night stand, latched on to that as being Bethenny saying those things and therefore being a ho-bag. Kelly doesn't thing everyone is out to get her, just Bethenny.

Also, in order to meet the criteria for paranoid personality disorder, Kelly also needs to meet the criteria for generalized personality disorder. As bizarre as her behavior was that night, it isn't *that* far outside the norm, and we would have to see a pattern of such behavior for it to be a disorder.

I'm not a psychologist; I just teach it. However, I do know we have seen a very edited version of Kelly, and nothing near what would be needed for a diagnosis. I just haven't seen anything that can't be explained by normal, albeit irrational, human behavior. I don't know, maybe I've just known a lot of crazy people in my life...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Isn't "normal" and "albeit irrational" a bit of an oxymoron? :-)

We can't diagnose Kelly's mental health because we haven't seen the entire uncut footage that was filmed. We also can't diagnose her mental health, even if some of us ARE mental health professionals, because we haven't talked to her. All we can do is speculate. And I choose to speculate that there is something seriously wrong with her, but I don't think she's exhibiting anything other than whacked out behaviors. She acts like a nut case, but that doesn't mean she is one. Her bizarre behaviors coupled with her inability to articulate a complete sentence without sounding like an uneducated idiot simply make for, according to Bravo, "good TV."

That said, I'm really tired of Kelly. Both Kelly and Danielle need to leave my TV. Forever. Please.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
ITA Costa!

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Isn't "normal" and "albeit irrational" a bit of an oxymoron?

Nah, normal people are irrational all the time. :-)

Unfortunately, the drama brings the ratings. People aren't talking about the "bridal shower" Alex and Sonja held for Bethenny and Ramona, they're talking about the Kelly meltdown. It's irrational, but normal. :-)

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
From what Bravo choose to show us about Kelly and from her public comments this lay TV watcher thinks Kelly has mental health issues. Unlike other diseases like diabetes or cancer you can't tell a person is sick without medical tests. But that's different with mental health issues. These things are readily apparent to the lay person (friends, family, coworkers). I suspect most people that seek mental health help it's done at the urging of friends and family...they see something is not right.

I think the average person can also tell the difference between a mean, nasty, erratic, quirky, or an idiot compared to someone who has mental health issues.

On the same hand it's true that Bravo could certainly edit things to make it seem to all that watch that Kelly is mentally ill. However Ramona, Bethenny, Alex, and Sonja all came to the same conclusion that Kelly has mental health issue and needs to see a doctor.

ETA- Her legal troubles and her domestic violence against her boyfriend are just another aspect of why someone that loves Kelly should step in. And Kelly is irrational towards Alex too.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I have always been concerned about contestant accidents on "Survivor" or " The Amazing Race".
Never in my wildest imagination would one be concerned about the safety of women on a HW show.
The producers exacerbate the situation to get folks like us watching.
The situation at the Brownstone proved nothing and Danielle should be ashamed of herself. There is also no convincing me that the rich lady with the Bentley is used to folks like Danielle and her "crew". If one were to ask Mrs.G she probably regrets attending this event but not donating any $$$ since it was for a worthy cause.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
I doubt that Mrs. G actually regrets it.

Her son is good friends w/ Albie. So I am certain she watched the show last season and knows exactly what Danielle is like.