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Grooch
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06-16-2006

Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
here's an interesting article about Jill making up fake reviews on amazon.

Make sure to read the comments underneath it, also.

Realitytea

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 5:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Yikes I almost feel embarrassed for her.

Give folks enough rope and they hang themselves. She's ruined herself. Completely.

I would love to hear what Bobby has to say.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Jill is all about the jealousy. I think she's so jealous of Bethanny she can't stand it. A lot of other emotions going on there but I think that's number one.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
She is far tackier then I could have ever imagined.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Well that was underwhelming. Maybe I've seen far too much of what PR people fake in similar situations, but it was pretty benign to what I expected. Two posts, one of which pushed/supported Bethany. Okey doke.

Sorry but just seems like much ado about nothing. I think most folks in her shoes would have posted far more (just been smart enough not to have any connection back to her). It may not be a pretty reality, but it IS reality IMHO!

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Nyheat I also think one of the driving forces behind Jill's behavior is jealousy. She is jealous of Bethany's success and her popularity. Jealousy turns people ugly, inside and out.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I looked up thyroid cancer and it's one of the most treatable forms of cancer. Jill exaggerated, to me. I can't have children because of fybroid tumors which aren't even cancer but required a hysterectomy at 24. Life throws us all curveballs and we march on. As Huk put so well.

I was going to comment on this illness earlier, but decided not to; however, since it's here now, yes...Thyroid cancer is the most treatable. I had a malignant tumor @ 25 years old and have been on synthroied since then. I always thought it would never come back; however, it did come back after 20 years; this being partly because when I had different doctors they were always wanting to change my dosage of Synthroid and you shouldn't do that. I had to have radiation in the form of that liquid or pill (like a mini Chernobyl, lol) and my tests have been okay since then.

I would say that this is a minor occurence for Bobby except that in the past few years I've seen where older men get thyroid cancer and they end up dying from it or having other complications, so I'm just not sure how life-threatening this is for Bobby. If they got all of the cancer and aren't doing radiation or chemo, he'll probably be fine. It also depends on the type of Thyroid cancer.

Having said that, I agree that Jill is going overboard about it and also agree there is some jealousy on her part toward Bethenny. Here Jill is hawking her new book and Bethenny is going about her life and getting pregnant and married, which is garnering her more press than Jill. Perhaps Jill expected Bethenny to just fall apart and that didn't happen.

Shenanagon, so sorry about you having to have a hysterectomy so young. I had one pretty young as well, but at least I had a child before then. It's hard to deal with and I can't even imagine how much harder to deal with if you haven't any children. I really feel for you.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
SMOOOOOOCHIES Cricket and thank you. My life is good and sorry also to hear about your thyroid cancer. I feel very lucky both my parents are healthy and still with me in their 70s and I have step kids that I love and am grateful for.

It's a shame this story broke because in the last show even though Jill bolted she did come back and try to congratulate Bethenney in her own way. Jill in her one on one with the camera gave me a bit of hope she was seeing the error of her ways. But now this alias of hers slamming B's book just blows up any way to salvage the damage J's done to both B and herself. It's sad.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Shenanagon, where is she slamming B's book? I only saw 2 posts referrenced, one defending her bad reviews on her book, and the other pushing the CD of the show and saying good things bout her and Bethanny ironically.

BTW one thought did hit me. So many are saying that Jill is just jealous of B's success. But I'm not sure that is true, as they all have really benefited from their time on the show. "The Countess" has her perfect manners book out last year and she was all over the TV pushing it. Alex and Simon just released their kid book (still not sure they are the best ones to take kid advice from but not sure it's a self-help type book). Ramona mentions her jewelry line and promotes it constantly. And so on. So seems to me if it was JUST jealosy, we would have seen some more of it towards the other women, esp The Countess. Makes me lean more towards the theory of her being hurt, legit or not, over both being used (she said that was her main issue at one point, after she did so much for B at one time), and maybe she really is mad she wasn't there for Bobby. Just because it is a treatable cancer, doesn't mean it wasn't terrifying and major in her world. And while I too am sorry to hear of the problems some folks here went through, remember people respond differently to adversity.

My main point is, we have no way to know for sure what is true at this point. And while I honestly don't like how Jill has been behaving, I'm not sure Bethanny is any better. As I mentioned, all we here on the show is how much B wanted Jill to talk to her, but the SECOND she does, Bethanny pushes her away. That's the main reason I don't believe what B is saying over Jill!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Jill was found out to be using an alias and called the Amazon reviewer who gave J's book one star antisematic. It's all on the web she was going by Susan Shapiro or something had her daughter and brother in law listed as friends and had the same birthdate. It smells true to me and she gave Bethenney's book a bad review. I can't find the article I'm multitasking perhaps someone smarter than me can find it. I read it earlier today and I wouldn't put it past her.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I agree with Lurknomore. I can't wait for the next batch of Housewives...I am a little bored with this lot. Next!

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
but the SECOND she does, Bethanny pushes her away.

If every time I approached someone to try to make amends I was rebuffed, I would wonder at the sudden turn around, too. But Jill didn't try to talk to Bethenny. Jill was *in her own words* trying to save face. She wasn't concerned about Bethenny's happiness. Her reason for going to congratulate Bethenny -- because if she didn't, she would "look like a piece of shit." When she approached Bethenny, she was more concerned about making excuses for why she walked away and didn't come back to congratulate Bethenny until she was already leaving than offering heartfelt best wishes.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
To me the point is this. Jill lied about walking away from Bethenny. I just don't trust her. As much as I dislike much of Bethenny's snarky comments about the other housewives, she is honest. If the shoe were on the other foot, so to speak, I think Bethenny would not have offered up lies and excuses to Jill just to save face.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Upthread I posted link to a preview video on the Bravo web site. In it, Jill receives a Google alert about Bethenny being pregnant. She calls Luann, who is at Sonja's planning a cocktail party. Jill seems visibly annoyed that Luann and Sonja aren't as anxious about gossiping about Bethenny as Jill is. Sonja says she wondered if Bethenny was pregnant, since her boobs were bigger and she seemed to have a little bump (and normally her tummy is as flat as flat can be.) Then Jill says, "If she's pregnant, then that's why she got engaged."

Putting aside the creepy stalker aspect of getting Google alerts about Bethenny, Jill didn't say she was happy since Bethenny was getting everything she always wanted, a successful business, a man who loved her, and a baby. No, instead she she makes a snide comment about the pregnancy being the reason they got engaged. Because goodness knows it couldn't possibly be because she and Jason love each other. If she were a true friend with Bethenny's best interests at heart, she would have just been happy for her. She wouldn't have rushed for the phone to spread it around.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
okay here's the link to J reviewing her book favorably and writing a bad review of B's book.

It's gossipy but I'm inclined to believe it and I completely understand if no one else does.

http://absurdtosublime.net/2010/04/21/jill-zarin-review-gate/

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
ITA Prisonerno6

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Jill Zarin also needs to learn how to spell "antisemitic" before she starts calling people names (and yes, I just spelled it correctly in the quotes).

As far as Bethenny not accepting any of Jill's overtures... well, if you stuck your hand in a shark tank and it got bit, would you stick it in there again?

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Correct my tally if I'm wrong but Bethenney made at least 3 attempts to reconcile with Jill and it began at the fashion show. Then the phone call that J put on speaker. Then Ramona's house.

So it's not as if Bethenney hasn't got reason to be exhausted. Let's not forget the article in the NY post that Jill planted. I'd be fed up too and sorry I was ever friends with Jill to begin with.

It's all drama and with Bethenney happy and in love it's the last thing she needs in her life. Jason is awesome so glad she has him. Even he isn't wanting Jill in Bethenney's life by his comments on the last show.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, April 25, 2010 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Costa, what bothered me wasn't so much that Bethanny wouldn't take her hand, so to speak. It was that week after week we heard her moaning about how much she missd Jill and she doesn't understand it and wishes she would talk to her. Then the second she does (and remember Bethanny couldn't hear the behind the scenes talking from Jill like we did), she wants nothing to do with her.

The RH of NY were my favorite city of this series by far. I could never get into the OC one because I didn't like any of the women. I did watch the NJ one, but that was sort of like watching a car wreck...I just couldn't look away, and thought they all were nutz! Sadly this bunch is really losing me with all the nastiness. It's down to the point I get excited whenever Alex comes on, cause she is the only one not at war with someone. Though from the previews it looks like that is about to change soon too. SIGH. I liked this bunch MUCH better before all the "mean girl" drama!

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 1:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere, forget where, that Bravo told these women to pump up the drama this year. It looks like they have done just that. Does anyone recall hearing or reading this? < sigh > getting old just **** I remember things but forget where I read them. :-)

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 2:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Olivia, I remember reading that somewhere, and I can't remember where either. For all I know, it could have been in this thread.

At the same time, so many lies seem to be going around w/ them, I don't know whether to believe it or not. It's most likely an excuse to justify their boorish behavior.

(I still enjoy this trainwreck, though. :-) )

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 2:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Jill's blog still isn't up on Bravo, dagnabit!!

Love the picture of Bethenney wearing Jason's jacket and the two of them standing looking at each other. So romantic. I hope it's for real, seems to be.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 2:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Did a google on Jill, because I'm hoping for something new to read and found this. I am not overly familiar with IMdb but they do semi bio's on celebs and they've listed Jill using her alias under her name which is new and I thought gives some credibility to the stories that Jill did use the alias.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2942806/news#ni2216533

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Found an interview the New York Post did with Ramona from 3 days ago. It's a good read and addresses the "did the producers tell the housewives to up the drama" and other things.

http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/04/real_housewife_of_new_york_ram.html

Panda
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07-15-2005

Monday, April 26, 2010 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
Thanks for posting that, Shenanagon!

Regarding the pregnancy,
Both times I found out I was pg, I was shocked and scared even though I was in my 30's! So I can understand how Bethenny reacted. (even if you suspect)

Jill looked dumb when she said "congrats" to Bethenny because the only thing out of her mouth was "Bobby, I was waiting for Bobby, bobby, bobby" It was driving me crazy! Bobby seems like he just goes with the flow and really has no clue about what's going on with them!