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Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
I'm not saying this to be mean really, but doesn't Kelly's body in her bikini look like a man???

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Wednesday, April 28, 2010 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
yes very much and she's such a pretty lady but yes omg I feel bad for her.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 3:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Exactly Cricket. How classy was it to wish Bethenny well in her engagement in one breath, and then rehash an old argument in the next? The classy thing would have been to simply say, "I wish you all the best, sincerely." And that's it.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
In her book on manners, Luann says that it is appropriate to congratulate the male and give best wishes to the female on engagement. So then of course, she congratulates Bethenny instead of saying 'best wishes.' She also says in her book that it is rude to speak a foreign language in front of people who do not understand it, so of course she has a conversation with Mario in Italian in front of a bunch of people who do not speak Italian. So that is what is so funny, she does not even follow her own rules in her own book but seems to be convinced she is the epitome of elegance!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL Alisons!! That's hilarious! So "The Countess" definitely doesn't know how to practice what she preaches!!!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
http://hubpages.com/hub/I-Hate-Jill-Zarin-Weekend-Update-4-24-10

Found this link on Facebook. It's written by Lynn Hudson and she's got a ton of things to say about Jill. She speaks about A. Chandler the number one book reviewer for Amazon, quotes Sonja the newest housewife as praising her for being an excellent writer and too much to mention here. While I take it all with a grain of salt it's a very interesting read.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
ha ha, great catch Alisons!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Just watched the Wendy Williams show and was pleasantly surprised that Luann was likable. She smiled alot, looked gorgeous in her dress and said she's happy and in love, the sex is great lol also she said all proceeds to her song are going to a foundation that helps kids with cancer and she admitted she used a auto voice tuner and that she's no Mariah Carrey. I wish she acted this way on the show. She was alot more fun than I expected.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Best line paraphrased from Watch What Happens Live when Kim reviewed Luann's song:

Money can't buy you class, but it can buy you a voice and a voice coach.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, April 29, 2010 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
Wow, how about those shorts Kelly wore to Ramona's skin care party?

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Those were shorts? I thought they were underwear, and she just forgot her skirt.

I'm not sure about Alex delivering the message to Jill. While I understand the reason, and it really was giving Jill back what she's been giving Bethenny all along (confronting her through others), it was uncomfortable. But I guess there's more to the story that we have yet to see! I understand more now, why Bethenny wants Jill out of her life. Apparently Jill is unfamiliar with the phrase, "No comment." She had no right to talk to the press about Bethenny whatsoever.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
wow.. I had always been a fan of Jill, but not this season. These women are toxic all of them. Rude and no manners whatsoever.

Jill at Ramona's event and LuAnn's event was awful.

I just don't get them at all.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Yeah, Jill was CRAZY rude at Luann's event especially! Holy cow, it's not like we could even misinterpret it. It was there on tape for everyone to see. Yack yack yack, text text text. Even Luann thought her dear friend Jill was incredibly rude.

Although I think Alex was nuts to confront Jill in front of all of those people, I think she is just fiercely loyal and protective of Bethenny. She also said on Andy's show afterwards that she was basically on a mission, and once the door was opened she just drove through, no looking back. Even though she was covered in hives, she didn't relent because of the mean things Jill has said and done to her over the past 2 seasons.

Love the previews for next week. Alex is telling Jill that she puts on an "I'm so nice" face but that it's totally phony. You go Alex!

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Alex should have delivered the message to Jill privately. I hated that Kelly and Luann got to crow about how "creepy" it was.

But I love Alex still.

I cracked up watching Jill and Kelly talk all through Luann's event. So rude.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I thought it was uncomfortable the way Alex delivered the message. Jill's attempts to reach out to Bethenny have been so impersonal-if I got an e-mail like Bethenny did, I'd be annoyed, too. (also too little, too late)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Oh good grief. I watched the videos on Bravo's site, and Jill is a freaking piece of work.

A really upsetting email

In this one, Ramona shares the news that Bethenny's father died early that morning. Instead of being upset for Bethenny, Jill is upset because Ramona didn't tell her earlier!

Then watch the one where Bethenny calls Ramona for advice. For all Ramona's craziness, that's how you support a friend who is going through hell.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 5:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
The first video shows who must be another new housewife. Guess it takes her and the other new one to replace Bethenny, lol.

Jill continues to amaze me with her selfishness. Why oh why would Bethenny call her directly to tell her that her father passed away? Kudos to Ramona for telling her that she (Jill) had ended the friendship so why would she call her? Sob sob Jill. I can't even believe that this is the same Jill who was so much fun when she and Bethenny were friends. This bitterness is truly ugly on her.

Ramona was wonderful with Bethenny in the second clip. She really felt her pain, those welled up eyes were so full of compassion for her friend. She also gave very good, rational advice. I'm glad Jason got to see Bethenny have a nice supportive girlfriend. Ramona and Alex, who would have ever thought those two would turn out to be so great this year?

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Suprise, suprise... Jill has made this about her again. A five year old doesn't have as many tantrums as Jill.

My prayers go out to Bethenny and her family.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
well said Hukdonreality, your feelings mirror my own. Nicely put.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
What struck me with the conversation with Ramona was not *once* did she mention herself. She had recently reconciled with her father, which, of course, is why Bethenny called her. But she didn't say, "This is what I did, this is how I felt," she just was supportive of Bethenny and said what was true, that in order to move on, Bethenny needed to work through this situation with her father.

I taped the episodes from the first season that Bravo showed yesterday afternoon, and watched a few when I got home from class last night. I'm seeing Jill in a whole different light in that first season. She has always been this way, very self-centered, very overbearing, and very unaware of others feelings (like when she made fun of Francois' name). But this season there is a level of desperation to it. In the first season, Jill was the center that brought the women together. However, she longer has that position. The women have formed their own relationships, and the new housewives, including Kelly, have been brought in because of their connections with the other housewives, not her. I think it goes beyond jealousy to fear that she is expendable. Bethenny is clearly the breakout star -- and she is no longer Bethennny's friend.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Jill should be so ashamed of the way she treated Bethenny but she "doesn't" get it. In the first season I so enjoyed both Jill and Luanne and could not tolerate Alex and Ramona; now I have done a 360.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'll bet you mean a 180...

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Jill has damaged her name/reputation with her behavior both on and off the show (amazon). It will be a hard road back should she want to take it.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I did mean 180....................thank you !

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, April 30, 2010 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Prisoner, wow! You said it... there is an air of desperation with Jill this season. That is totally it!

While I don't agree with HOW Alex gave Jill Bethenny's message, I totally understand why she (Alex) did what she did. She was on a mission, a difficult one, and she basically took a deep breath and went for it. Yes, she probably should've taken Jill off separately. And she might have if everyone else wasn't also acting so rude. I couldn't believe how Alex could barely get a word in edgewise for quite a long time.

I felt bad for Bethenny, for having the news about her being pregnant put out there. I wonder if she ever found out who leaked that to Perez. And I was horrified at how Jill was gossiping about it to Luann and Sonja. And again, back to Jill, why didn't she tell us? (Um, hon? Look at how you've treated Bethenny... why ever would she tell you anything except to tell you to go suck on a rock?)

Jill was embarrassingly rude at Ramona's party, being completely disrespectful to a staff member when commenting on Ramona's photo. She was also disrespectful at Luann's event, and I thought Luann's expression was priceless. Here she is talking about manners and her new BFF doesn't seem to have a single one (manner, I mean).

WRT Kelly's shorts... That woman needs to understand that you don't show your butt cheeks when you are over 30. Period. Yeah, she's got nice legs, but short shorts are not attractive on women her age, no matter how nice your legs are. I guess that's just proof Kelly doesn't use a stylist, cuz no way would anyone let her out of the house looking like that! :-)