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Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
But I don't believe a word of that nightmare and throwing up story. Judge Judy has a great line -- if it doesn't make sense, it probably isn't true. It doesn't make sense to go on a trip with someone you think is trying to kill you...so it isn't true. Kelly just isn't smart enough to figure out it doesn't make sense.

If *anyone* was planting stories in the press last season, I'd lay money on Kelly's new BFF, who couldnt' stand her last year.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
To me, Kelly appeared to be very drunk, strung out on drugs or both. IMHO only cocaine comes to mind, in the paranoid stage. I hope that doesn't violate the tos.

The first exchange, in a past season, that I recall between Kelly and Bettheny was when Kelly was telling Bettheny that Kelly was "up here" and Bettheny was "down here". Unless she was talking about being high, boy oh boy did she have it reversed.

Did anyone see the "Watch What Happens" after the show tonight, with SJP? They showed a cover of Vogue with SJP, and SJP said that Kelly had been the photographer. She said working with Kelly was "an interesting 4 days."

I loved seeing the preview of next week with Jill showing up and being about as welcome as the plague.

Does anyone know where to find all of these "items in the newspapers/press" that Kelly was talking about?

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I don't even know what to post about tonights show. I agree that Kelly appears to have some sort of very real mental issues, and Bravo probably should have exercised better judgement in showing her meltdown. It wasn't entertaining to me. Sonja is such a breath of fresh air, a really good person who wants the fighting to stop. And bravo to Bethenny for taking the high road after hearing Sonja say that she thought Kelly needed help. I hope her words will sink into Kelly's brain and she'll begin to get over her Bethenny hate.

Ha ha, yes, Jill will be as welcome as the plague. Good call Sunrvrose!

Oh, and Alex...her face when she was posing for the photos was hysterical! A model she ain't!

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Just rewatched (don't know if I'm a glutton for punishment or if I couldn't believe what I'd seen the first time.) Sonja called Bethanny's meal 5 star, and "I know 5 star cuz I had a 5 star chef on my boat", and K says "we all know the history" and got all pi&&y about it. Huh?

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
One more thing, then I'm going to bed, I swear...lol Why is it so creepy to go on a trip/getaway after a parent dies? Especially given the type of relationship that Bethanny and her dad did (or didn't) have. I was super-close to my dad, but that's exactly what I wanted to do when he passed-I wanted to go away and try to get my mind off of the last month of his life. To each their own.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
OK, really just one more thing...lol What is LuAnn's problem with Ramona wanting to renew her vows? She always has to throw that "17 years" in. Wonder what she thinks about Heidi Klum & Seal renewing their vows every year?

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
I don't think Kelly really has a mental disorder but she really seemed to be on something during this episode that made her incoherent and seem like she is crazy. I think she has been on it at various times during the show and has also been off of it other times so it seems like she's different people.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
LuAnn and Jill deserve one another.

Who knew that "stepford wife" Alex would turn out to be a hero!! Not only a hero, but an honest to gosh multidimensional woman. I'm getting to like that woman more every week.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
BlueJ, Luanne was married for 17 years when she got divorced. At the beginning of the season, she kept mentioning that fact. Then all of a sudden Ramona decides to reenew her vows for being married for 17 years. It is a tad insensitive.

P.S. can someone post the link to Kelly's tweet page? Thanks.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 10:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Well, I was surprised at the common sense that Luann had in not accompanying Jill on her trip and refusing to be there for back up.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 1:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Well you can edit out crazy, but you can't edit crazy in. The problem with last nights show, and Kelly IMO is that she is just not crazy some of the time, she is crazy all of the time. She communicates in this disjointed rapid fire way that reminds me of someone who is truly manic. Did you notice how many times she said, I just want the chatter to stop, to stop, just stop! The back and forth banter of the women seemed to really upset her. Ramona is right. Kelly does better in a one on one situation. When there are others around, that is when it goes wrong. Has anyone noticed how many times Kelly excuses herself to take a little break? Either its to calm herself down mentally or to medicate. She cried over a gift bag? Who does that? Something serious is wrong in Kellyville. I am worried about her.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 2:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Kelly does better in a one on one situation, because then Kelly is the center of attention. I noticed last night that's when Kelly seems to go off the rails - when Bethenny is getting attention instead of her.

Who puts her daughter on speakerphone not only in front of all those women talking, but in front of the cameras? Someone who wants attention.

I was in the Bravo "talk bubble" last night, and the BravoProducer said the gift bag rubbed salt in the ho-bag wound. I took that to mean that Kelly new she had been very mean to Bethenny, and Bethenny "retaliated" by doing something nice for all of the women, including Kelly.

Kelly's bizarre behavior is just too focused on Bethenny (Bethenny is a ho-bag for "sleeping across the country" even though it was Sonja who brought up the subject of one night stands) for it to be a psychopathology. It's not Psych 101, it's Jealousy 101.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 2:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Prisoner i do agree, she is jealous of Bethenny in the extreme, but her behavior with the other women is also bizarre. To me, this is more than jealousy. Her ramblings about channeling the devil, nightmares, fragmented statements, paranoia, signals something a little more serious than garden variety jealousy. I do know jealousy can consume someone, but this seems different. Well this is my opinion only. Of course it is not fact. Just my observation.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 3:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Twitter pages:

http://twitter.com/Bethenny
http://twitter.com/McCordAlex
http://twitter.com/SimonVanKempen
http://twitter.com/RamonaSinger
http://twitter.com/SonjatMorgan
http://twitter.com/JillZarin
http://twitter.com/kikilet (kelly)
http://twitter.com/CountessLuann

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 3:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Ramona's if fun right now. She's in Africa, and she's been posting pictures of her adventures.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 3:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Kelly mentioned a NY post article this morning. Haven't found it yet, but did find this.

NY Post July 2008

Who's putting her kids in the press? (And who's surprised Kelly needs to hire someone to learn how to set boundaries? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?)

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 3:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Oliviamimi, but even her rantings at the other women revolved around Bethenny. Ramona wants to apologize to Bethenny, Kelly won't let her get a word in edgewise. Bethenny and Ramona leave, so Alex focuses her attention on Alex -- and how she delivered Bethenny's message. She didn't attack Sonja, because Sonja hasn't taken sides.

I was actually impressed with how Sonja supported Kelly. She treated her just like you treat a child having a temper tantrum. You acknowledge their feelings, and then diffuse the situation.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 3:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
So hard to describe the sad way I'm feeling about Kelly. I respect BARS so much for realizing that Kelly was losing her grasp on reality and for diffusing that very ugly situation.

What is more disturbing is Kelly's tweets from last night stating that she was being attacked by mean women. Kelly clearly still views Bethenny as a horrible person that she has every right to complain about. It's not over for Kelly, she's tweeting irrational things. She's asking her wonderful fans for advice on how to behave at the reunion show. She's telling her fans she'll mention them by name. Appealing to them with the hope of some recognition on national tv, like a bribe.

I had a friend become schizophrenic and Kelly is reminding me how awful that time was. You cannot speak to them rationally. They truly see a very distorted view of the world and are extremely paranoid. I no longer think she's on drugs but that she's schizophrenic.

I truly hope she gets some help. I hope Bravo does something, steps in in some way to see that Kelly gets therapy.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 4:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
She is *not* schizophrenic... Her odd behavior is too focused for that. She lacks the disorganized behavior, inappropriate affect, hallucinations, delusions, or socialization issues of the schizophrenic.

She's immature, insecure, jealous, and less than bright. She lacks communication skills. She's looking for someone else to blame for her problems in the press so she doesn't need to examine her own behavior. That does not a mental illness make.

Someone who is immature tells a person they are channeling the devil. Someone who is schizophrenic thinks that person actually *is* the devil.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 4:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Last season and earlier this season I thought it was a combination of dumb and on drugs. After last night's episode, I'm going to throw in psychotic break:

Dumb: Al Sharpton
Drugs: "Satchels of gold" (among others)
Psychotic break: "Go shove your tongues down each other's throats."

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 4:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I try to ignore the bizarre Kelly behavior... I did watch Watch what H... and I thought SJP was talking about Kelly being bizzare, and a what if SJP had to be with her for 4 days! lol I dont really pay attention do I - I totally missed that Kelly was the photographer of SJP's shoot!!

I think its really really sad how the Countess controls, or manipulates Jill right now.. Jill cannot think w/o the countless' help!!

the gift bags was a way to promote Bethenny's business so I can understand people thinking that as tacky - but Bethenny did go out of her way with the nice beach bag with their names on it (it could've been just a nice paper type gift bag!) I would love to have her skinny girl gift bag!! *g

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 4:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Watched the repeat after WWHL.

Bravo needs to remove Kelly.. period. It does not matter if her behavior is due to drugs, jealousy, mental disorder or stupidity, there is no excuse to keep her on.

And what of her kids who have to endure the backlash from this?

She needs to go.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I think Andy and SJP were joking about Kelly being the photographer for her shoot. Both trying to lighten the mood with some humorish sarcasm. I'd be shocked if a celeb like SJP had Kelly as their photographer. Kelly admitted herself she's not an experienced photographer and that mag cover was gorgeous so that's why I think they were joking around.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Shenanagon, I wondered the same thing about K being schizophrenic. My former sister-in-law is schizophrenic, and some of their behaviors are similar. I'm not a K fan, but it is very hard watching someone come undone, and hope that whatever the issue is, she gets help.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, May 21, 2010 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
I wish people wouldn't be so anxious to excuse Kelly's behavior based on a supposed mental illness. Kelly got exactly what she wanted -- to be the center of attention.