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Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Delurker - yes, I saw that pink resemblance for sure!

Panda
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I felt the resemblance too! Especially with the longish blonde hair!

Too bad about Eric-I hope this time he keeps the weight off. I saw Ali (the first female winner)on QVC or HSN this morning and she is still keeping in shape!

I felt bad about the 2 first teams out-I was going to root for the yellow team!

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Here is a People.com article about Eric:

http://tinyurl.com/yaml7tw

His one-hour documentary airs tonight, 1/6, (9 p.m. EST) on Discovery Health

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hey, they may have dropped him, but he got the full boat on the ranch, won money so presumably could have at least afforded a gym membership if not a trainer.. at some point you kind of have to be on your own and take responsibility, seems to me.

And looks like maybe he'll be rewarded for gaining again with yet another reality stint. Hopefully he'll keep it off next time.

I don't remember if he was on a season where they also got home equipment toward the end or not.

I did see him on ET last night.. was kind of chopped up as all ET stories are and I was ff through other parts, but I'm recording the show tonight.

I really felt for the blue team.. those two were fighters and I hope the mom is able to work despite her pain.. the daughter was downright awesome as she kept going in that competition.

And I really liked the yellow team, too.

I'd also like them to all get something like 30 days as well, ESPECIALLY with that crap they pulled this season, making them strip down in public in their home towns.

I also noted that pink resemblance.. and the son on the orange team this time reminded me of a cross between the son of father son and the son of mother son of past orange teams.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Well, using Seamonkey's chart, I figured out which contestant gains a pound next week...

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
No obvious villains so far. That's a nice change.
A lot of these contestants reminded me of previous ones. The pink team definitely did look like Helen and her daughter.

Eric's wife pretty much said it was the show's fault for just dropping him, but really, how long did he think his fifteen minutes were supposed to last?

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 7:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Big drops the first "week" are partly due to severe changes in water weight - their diet is vastly different (much lower in sodium), they are drinking more water (and no soda/diet soda), and sweating daily.
And those folks going home get free gym memberships at 24 hr fitness. They seem to have trainers with them as well.
Eric is a big baby, others have done well on their own after the show.


Way2prissy
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07-21-2002

Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2prissy a private message Print Post    
I was always an Eric fan and was heartbroken for him to see he had gained back most of his weight. It just shows that TBL can only help fix the weight, not what made you gain the weight. He never resolved the problems that made him overeat and admitted he was depressed and didn't want to live. It's very sad to see him hit rock bottom again but I think he's on the right track. He deserves our support, not the criticism. I think when he does this on his own, it will be a permanent lifestyle change. Go Eric!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I liked Eric too. Of all the winners I was the most worried about him keeping the weight off. I figured it would be next to impossible as a Deli owner, actively running a deli and being around that food all day. Brutally difficult.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
God bless Eric.
I taped the show last night but choose to read on my Kindle and actually turned off the TV. From what I am reading on TVCH it seems that Eric and his spouse are blaming TBL for his weight "re-gain" which is not a good thing. My biggest problem in life is my weight and when I do good I do quite well; when I do "bad" I am very bad at mindless eating.
The challenge that I do not have which Eric faces daily is being around food at work. I hope TBL finds a chef or someone who handles this challenge daily to "mentor" Eric.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
His wife seemed angrier to me.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I always wonder also if people "eat big" before they go to the ranch so that they will show a huge weight gain the first week.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Isn't Eric the one that Bob visited and is coming back to weigh in at the end of this season? Odd that he would bash TBL and still appear.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, Maremeko.. not sure if Erik has that challenge, unless he is around food working for his father. After he won BL, he sold his deli or whatever type of food related business he had. I think he thought he would be living off appearances and endorsements. Maybe I missed where he went back to owning and running a Deli?

If Erik is making money off of this special or his proposed reality show, I think he should hire his own help.. chef, whatever.

It was clear that he had a gym membership and knowledge of what to do and he was simply not showing up. Maybe the boxing will get him going, but I really don't see that the BL show has lifelong responsibility for these people any more than any doctor doing a life-saving procedure on a patient then is obligated to make sure they maintain or improve their health.

I certainly don't blame my orthopod who fixed my knee for me not being in the gym keeping certain muscles strong.

His wife made me crazy. How could he have any peace with her around being all bitter and angry "for" him? Honestly when she would start up my stomach muscles would clench.

And his mother is an enabler with all her cooking and "sharing" of food and saying it is okay "on the weekend". But Erik is an adult, husband, father, etc., and it is still up to him to take responsibility and not eat the food mom cooks or allow his wife to push him into worse depression. The wife was just assuming that if he weighed himself he would then know how much he had gained back and it would be a disaster, yet there she was negatively nattering away as he approached the new scale, all the while knowing he was being filmed. I'm guessing SHE wants her 15 min.

Kar, I was thinking that, too.. but this was probably taped prior to Bob coming to visit. At least I'm guessing. I know they invited Shay to return and she would earn $1000 a pound lost from Subway. I guess I didn't take any notes from the reunion show, so not sure about offers made to Erik but I do remember something being said somewhere. I think he could appear after bashing them, assuming he had then really started working out and re-lost some of the weight.

I think he takes responsibility way more than she does.

Interesting.. I just was looking at wikipedia and Erik's win was the season without Jillian. Bob had the blue team, including Erik. Just trivia, but still sort of interesting and I can see why Bob would be sensitive about HIS winner falling off the wagon. Also interesting that Bob always talks about not liking gameplaying but in that season Erik was the one to cast the vote to send home the last member of his team/Bob's team, Marty, seeing him as the biggest threat. Bob was pissed when he found out.


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Bob found out that Erik voted off Marty and he was very angry, saying that he worked so hard to build up a team and it meant nothing to Erik. Erik explained how it is a game and at first it was only about losing weight, but now he sees the finish line.




The next week Bob told Erik that he "inspired" him.

Anyway, Erik, despite being tempted at home by food and cigarettes, still won. The next season when they reviewed how these contestants were doing, Erik had re-gained 38 pounds of the 214 he had lost.

Ah, Kar.. here it is


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Erik, The biggest loser of season 3, appeared on the Oprah show to confess to the world that he gained back 122 pounds and now weighs 315 lbs. [19]

A second "Where Are They Now" special aired on November 25, 2009. It featured contestants from the first 7 seasons.[20] Contestants Marty & Amy, and winner Erik were featured. Erik, who lost a record-breaking 214 pounds by the finale, was revealed to have gain 175 pounds back. But, Erik is aiming to lose this weight and Bob has invited him to the season 9 finale to weigh-in.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Biggest_Loser_(season_3)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Yes Erik was Bob's only successful winner (plus the only season that didn't have Jillian). It must be a bitter pill for Bob.

I had no idea that he sold the deli. So much for that excuse.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
It was posted here that we shouldn't criticize Eric. I do not criticize Eric. It is more typical to gain weight back than to keep it off. My only criticism was actually more tough love. As long as he laid the blame anywhere but squarely on himself, he is going to continue to have problems. Screetchy wife and enabling mother aside, anyone who fight the battle of the bulge has challenges in their environment. After all, if you are fighting a weight problem, there are likely a number of issues that contribute to that problem. But like any other addiction or vice, overeating, wrong eating, and sedentary lifestyle can only be controlled by "me, myself and I"

I've been watching this at my weight watcher meetings. We have a 16 year old girl who is more than 150 pounds overweight. She comes to meetings with her mother. I think underage members have to bring a parent but I am not sure. I hear her mother make comments that are very controlling. And the girl sometimes loses nothing in a week of .2. That is discouraging for her but she is a kid and doesn't have the maturity yet to go after her problem completely. My point though is that the mother's input seems counterproductive. The mother is very nice and I know she is concerned for the daughter but she can't be with her daughter 24/7 to control what goes in her mouth.

Ironically I see my own relationship with my mother in their relationship. I was not fat as a teen but since gaining weight, my tiny mom wants to be supportive but she just doesn't have a clue what I am struggling with. And this 16 year olds mom is also tiny.

Long way to get the point, it is hard. And there are constant pitfalls. Some people keep weight off for years and then suddenly gain it back. It is like a loaded gun always pointing at your head. I don't criticize Eric. I want Eric to succeed. I want that 16 year old to succeed. I want myself to succeed. But for all of us it is a never ending battle.


Karuuna
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08-31-2000

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I didn't catch whatever show he was on on Discovery Health, but I'm thinking ET had said he was up in the high 300s (he was over 400 when he started TBL). And then showed that he had started working out again and had lost about 40 pounds?

I really didn't understand what their beef was with TBL. I have noticed that most of those who kept the weight off were those who ended up with careers in fitness so they could work out for hours a day. That's consistent with what I've heard, that the very obese have to continue working out for hours a day to keep weight off.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Ah, I erased after viewing it.. forget exactly what weight he was when that was filmed but his wife, while they were sitting down to watch the "reunion" show, was really upset that they billed Erik as gaining it "all" back.. he said well if he gained 75% back they could round up to "all". He finally told her to shush so they could watch the show.

I'm sure it will re-run.. Discovery Health had a series of obesity related shows in a row.. like one with a thousand pound man and a 750 pound man and a woman who wanted to get pregnant and I'm sure they will run them all again and again. Same with Erik's show. It is worth seeing for the insight about his family and situation. It was on that show he said he came back from BL, was too "busy" and sold the Deli.. they showed him on the cover of some magazine and his endorsement ad for Milk.. does a body good. It sounded like he sort of thought that would be his future.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Anyone else pledge to the pound for pound challenge?

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 6:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
I fell asleep last night. Was anything said about Shay coming back??

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I didn't hear Shay mentioned.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Nothing was said about Shay that I recall.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Thursday, January 07, 2010 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Wow didnt even know it had started! Been reading a lot since my Son sent me a Sony Reader YAY I can make print bigger!
But thanks for the heads up I'll dvr it ;-)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, January 08, 2010 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think the Shay thing happened during the last episode of last season...this episode featured the new cast.

I think if this Erik guy regained all his weight he should look in the mirror and see who is to blame. He got thousands of dollars of support and help on the ranch, not to mention the $250,000...if he can't capitalize on that in his real life then he has only himself to blame. Use the money and get some therapy or something! I've struggled with weight all my life but I realize that the responsibility for controlling it is on me, no matter what has happened in my life prior to this time. Sooner or later you just have to learn to deal with your life and not continuously try and blame your problems on other people.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Friday, January 08, 2010 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Erik's "depression" seemed like nothing more than a pity party for himself, not honest to goodness clinical depression. How many times did he say that he missed being on TV, and being treated like a celebrity, traveling, blah blah blah...? Why did or does he think that the gravy train was forever, and that he didn't have to do anything to maintain his loss? IMO, he acted like a spoiled whiney brat and like he was entitled to some magical power to stay thin without any effort.

I didn't think his wife was all that bad, nor his mother. His mother only said something about "...it's Sunday" and she's right. You can lose weight and maintain that loss, while still giving yourself a treat once in a while.

Sorry, but every super obese person I've ever seen on TV (inclding on that show Big Medicine about the father/son gastric bypass surgeons) shove food in their faces without appearing to even notice the taste of things. Erik could have eaten a sandwich in about 5 bites. I understand that many people have an addiction, but geezeLouise, LOOK AT YOURSELF ON TV, you're eating like a pig!