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Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
The Nonchalant way Lynne's daughter asked if she could have a beer,made me feel as if it wasn't such an odd request.Lynne's reaction,IMO,was more of an embaressed one,not because of the ridiculous idea of her 17 yr old drinking,but the fact that she asked her while cameras were rolling..Just my

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
I was allowed to drink at home, with my parents from age 16 and up but I wouldn't have ever asked at someone else's house. Regardless of what parents do or say, kids are most likely going to drink before they are 21. I think I have a healthy relationship with alcohol and moderation was modeled for me. I don't think Lynne's daughter is drinking at home, though, and the reaction from Lynne scares me because of that.

For those who wonder, my kids will be allowed to drink at home after 16 when they will not be driving and no, I will not allow anyone else's kids to drink at our house.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
For those who wonder, my kids will be allowed to drink at home after 16 when they will not be driving and no, I will not allow anyone else's kids to drink at our house

In case you wonder,that may be the saddest thing I have heard in a long,long time...

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Oh and FWIW,I am 33,and never tasted alcohol until I was 21..To lump "Most" kids into one singular group and say they will drink before 21 is hurtful and insulting to parents who are trying to raise their children within moral as well as legal standards..

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
• More than half (53.9) of all people aged 12 to 20 engaged in underage drinking in their lifetime, ranging from 11.0 percent of 12 year olds to 85.5 percent of 20 year olds. link

Statistics like "most" aren't hurtful; they are facts--which can help prepare both parents and teens as they deal with pressures about drinking, drugs, etc.

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carlpsmom a private message Print Post    
Where we live, it is absolutely legal for my underage child to drink as long as he is with me. And, he has. I am not talking about doing shots with my teenager, but having a beer with dinner or while watching a game at a local tavern. He doesn't seem to think too much about drinking alcohol; we didn't make it a big deal. He lives with friends now and knows if he drinks and gets a ticket it is on him. He can't afford that(starving student). lol
I would never tell someone else to do what I have. I would never tell anyone how to parent. lol I am more upset because he smokes cigarettes, something I certainly didn't allow.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What is the legal drinking age there, Carlpsmom? Because if he's underage, I can't believe the "local tavern" would serve him. Legally anyways.

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carlpsmom a private message Print Post    
The legal age is 21, but if he is with me, I can order and he can drink it wherever we are, tavern, restaurant, home, park, whatever. And, we used to do that every once in awhile. Not every week, of course, but, it was a relaxed time with my son, eating some good food and having a beer.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
So it actually is illegal even though he is with you? So couldn't the bartender go to jail?

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carlpsmom a private message Print Post    
No, it is legal as long as he is with me. I can give him alcohol anytime, almost anywhere. The bartender basically sells me the drink and I can give it to my son.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Wow. What state do you live in?

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carlpsmom a private message Print Post    
We are in Wisconsin. lol Just keep in mind, it may sound pretty lax, but if a cop finds an underage drinker without the appropriate guardian, watch out! At least, in our little town. In our town, we are allowed to drink in parks too. It is funny during the summer. We can be sitting up overlooking Lake Michigan, sitting at a picnic table drinking a beer. People from out of state will come by and freak out. lol They call the cops and get told it is perfectly legal. Of course, the police are just waiting for you to drive so they can bust you. And, no, whoever is driving is not drinking in our family. :-)

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Just saw the previews for the Dr. Phil show tomorrow and it looks like Jeanna is going to be on the show which is titled "Biggest Financial Mistakes".

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Arizona laws let underage drinkers drink at home with parents. Some other states have specific laws allowing it.

It's odd that someone would get sad over an older teen drinking alcohol with parental supervision.

I would recommend reading the book, The Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell to get a dose of reality in how much influence a parent teaching morals has over a teenager. It's scary the first time you read it and see the studies but it also creates a realistic view of how to properly mold a child.

I'm super successful, hardly ever even have a drink, don't smoke, married for more than 15 years, never had sex before marriage and drank at home as a teenager. I am kind of considered a moral nerd.

Just think about these things before being saddened about my parenting and how I'm actually in touch with what happens with teens and who has influence and how to influence the right decisions.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Doesn't really matter what the laws of Wisconsin or Arizona are, in light of the fact that this drinking we are discussing is happening in California, in which underage drinking and the supply of such drinks IS illegal.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Also doesn't matter at all except for the fact that underage drinking IS illegal here in California AND these people are being filmed, for TV, doing or talking about doing illegal acts. I'm not a mother, but if I were one I'd smack Lynne upside the head for her on-camera nonchalant attitude about teenage drinking. I think Lynne's daughters know what the word "consequences" means, and I'm just glad I live far enuf south that odds are high I'll never be on the freeway when her oldest has had "just one beer" and then gone driving.

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
When I was thirteen I was given a glass of champagne on New Year's Eve at home. I was so disgusted by the taste of the champagne that, while my folks were not looking, I dumped the champagne out the window. I was in my mid-twenties before I began drinking occasionally. I now have quite a collection of rare wines and liquor...but I don't drink any of it. :-)

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Rehtse I have a similiar story - my parents took us to a brewery (budwiser - the clydsdale horses..) anyway - the smell of the beer making process is horrific!

Alliet
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07-11-2005

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alliet a private message Print Post    
I find the legal drinking age ridiculous here in the US. It's absurd that people can join the Armed Forces, fight in wars, drive cars, marry etc. etc. etc. by age 18 (marriage, with parental consent, by 16) but not drink alcohol till 21.

Roxibalboa
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08-15-2004

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxibalboa a private message Print Post    
thanks BomBayCat

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Actually, California law does not prohibit minor consumption and even allows for parental or spousal consent in private locations.

Link: http://www.alcoholpolicy.niaaa.nih.gov/stateprofiles/StateProfie.asp#UACN

California
as of 1/1/2009

Underage Possession of Alcohol

Possession is prohibited WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTION(S):
• private location
• OR parent/guardian consent
• OR spouse

Notes: POSSESSION: California's "Any Private Location" exception excludes possession in motor vehicles. California's statute regarding possession of alcohol by a person under the age of 21 years includes an exception for "responsible adult relative" but does not specify which relatives are included. APIS interprets the phrase “responsible adult relative” as including a spouse.

So, maybe Lynne does consent in a private place and that is legal. If that's the case, I don't think that is the only place that the girl drinks, we've seen her in previous seasons and she is heading down a scary path.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I don't think that is the only place that the girl drinks, we've seen her in previous seasons and she is heading down a scary path.

This was the older girl. The 19 year old. It was the 16 year old who asked for "just one beer" to "relax". I think Lynne needs to teach the girls that there are other ways to relax.

Carlpsmom
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01-03-2004

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carlpsmom a private message Print Post    
I should have known the California law. I just remembered something from about 15 years ago when I lived in San Diego. A friend of mine was under 21 when she got married. She had to carry her marriage certificate with her whenever they went out. lol

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 6:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
You can get married @ 18 in CA, unless they changed the law. I think you can also get married @ 16 with parents' signed permission, but I'm not sure on that one.

Jenjackso stated:
If that's the case, I don't think that is the only place that the girl drinks, we've seen her in previous seasons and she is heading down a scary path.

I agree Jen. I'm sure Lynn's daughter drinks with her friends. She's trying to grow up too fast.


Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Did anyone see the exit interview with Jeanna and Vicki? It came on at Midnight which was too late for me.