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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 9:03 am
This was the worst episode ever. A bunch of drunks at the river... hello? We did that when we were in our early 20's. You definitely outgrow the getting drunk and running the river when you hit your 40's! I'm not so sure I'm on Vicki's side. Jeanna had a point... when you have differences, you talk about 'em and get over 'em. Vicki was totally acting like a child by not even sitting at the opposite end of the table, where she didn't have to converse with Jeanna and Ricki (is Ricki right?). I used to be ambivalent about Vicki, but now she's just truly distasteful to me. If she wasn't rolling in money, she wouldn't be nearly as popular as she is. She's not pretty and she acts rude and obnoxious. (I think the continuing to work on her laptop and point out funny things to Tamra when Gretchen was talking about Jeff was the tipping point. When I saw how rude she could be when she wasn't the center of attention, that did it.) BTW, Jeanna and Vicki should know better than to mix friends with business. It never works. I feel badly for Gretchen... that's gotta suck what she's going thru with Jeff. I don't know why they decided to add her as a housewife though. If I were her (and him and his family) I'd prefer to go thru this without the cameras. I'm not so sure about Lynne. Her oldest daughter is spoiled rotten and it's really not attractive. I thought Lynne might be the hottest housewife, but I think Gretchen still is. She's got a dynamite body!
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 9:22 am
We do costa?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 9:51 am
Hahaha! I was thinking if you'd call me out when I wrote that!!! OK, it's not the rowdy on the river, it's Vicki's drunk crew screeching (and all the river rats screeching back at the cams!). Of course, I'm still mad you didn't invite me when you went!!! 
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 10:12 am
I did invite you!!! You stood me up!!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 11:35 am
Costa, ITA with you about Vickie and how she acted with Jeana and Frankie. Vickie was way out of line - especially since they were in a public place. It's not like Jeana invited Frankie to Vickie's home. I really like Gretchen. I have to admire anyone that would stay and take care of someone if they didn't have to. It would be too easy for someone to walk away if he/she wasn't married to the person who was sick.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 11:49 am
People who ARE married to the sick person have been known to walk away!
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 12:20 pm
Oh believe me- Vickie gets on my last nerve and I dislike her so much now- but the way I see it the Havasu thing is so obviously Vicki's thing= Jeanna usually comes as part of her group and then brings the dude without even telling her. I do agree that mixing money in to a friendship is wrong- but so is not paying the rent when you rent a place and he seems fine with having done that - and like I said he emanates a weird energy- I do psychic readings on faces- and something s amiss there. I think Jeanna should have told Vicki ahead of time. If she didn't want to be part of Vicki's party no reason she really even needed to go there at all. That said- alcohol. copious amounts, in the hto son ,amplified it all- ie Lynne's hysterics over the tattoo. All of them were acting like idiots. Somehow I find it realy unseemly that they get that drunk with their kids, fer hevvins sake! That kind of partying in the hot sun often leads to some sort of water tragedy. YUCK.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 1:28 pm
That is true TN, which is why I really like Gretchen because she chose NOT to walk away.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 2:35 pm
I'd actually commented on the illegality of what they were doing (drinking and driving on the water), but killed the comment. And I did NOT stand you up, Scooter! You invited me like two days before you were leaving! And then teased me unmercifully with killer photos of the property! Brat! 
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 8:03 pm
I like Gretchen, btw, and think she is definitely the hottest housewife. I like Lynne so far.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 9:22 pm
I can't get into Lynn or her daughters yet. I find them very boring. I'll try, though. Re the Vicky/Jeana incident, I felt Jeana knew what she was doing and her and Vicky have been spatting recently, so this was her way of getting even. Jeana calling Tamra a sh*t disturber was priceless, considering she had to know there would be trouble if she invited Frankie. I agree with you, Meggieprice. Havasu is Vicki's thing and Jeana was brought into it by Vicki, so to bring her own entourage this time was like a slap in the face to Vicki. There's more than meets the eye with Jeana. She acts oh so above it all, but it seemed she was liking making Vicki squirm.
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 11:20 pm
Yep Cricket- hard as it was to say tht I was on VIcki's side lol!
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Thesnark
Member
09-27-2008
| Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 6:31 am
Jeanna brought frankee to stick it to vicki. I like jeanna even more now!
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 3:33 pm
I don't think Vicki should be able to decide who other people hang out with, it's too much like NeNe. From what Jeanna said, the financial stuff had been worked out. I haven't read the blogs yet so I don't know if it was, just my understanding of it all. As far as the comments at that site about Gretchen, the way I see it, it sounds like the two of them were made for each other. Family members and such admit that he was dating Gretchen when he was already involved with someone else (and it sounds like he got around a lot anyway), but, everyone wants to demonize Gretchen, obviously they both got what they wanted out of the relationship, period. I don't know what her intentions where with him, and I don't know what his intentions were with her, and frankly I don't care, it doesn't impact my life. I like watching the show, and I form my opinion of the women based on what I see, everyone has skeletons.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 3:55 pm
My impressions - Vicky did a poor pityful me, boohoo for the cameras, I cant go over THERE - "he's there... wah wah wah... drama queen - to the hilt - BUT - who didnt LOVE the way DON loved on Vicky!?!!! WTG Don!! Drunken Havusu - on TRU tv (a crime channel - live court stuff, recorded court stuff etc) they do a special where they follow sherifs on Lake Havusu - hilarious!! I believe Vicky said they hire someone to drive their boat sober - good for them... (bad if I'm making that up!) Now.. my parents are so into the Lake and partying - its eye popping let me tell you!! They have a house on a lake for the summer, and I dont know if my dad or the neighbor guys are enablers!! But let me tell you they can put down cases of Bud light!! or Bud Select!! (LOL guys select, girls light!!) I will say they were great fun at the Bridal Shower I had for my son!! Jello Shooters, mom decorated for a Jimmy Buffet style party - the neighbors had shooters of tequila in some kind of spray can!! (and the guests all set up tents, I wouldnt let anyone drink and drive!! ) so that reminded me of this episode!! I havent read the comments about Gretchen - but I have to wonder how hard it must've been for the kids to have some young thing grab Dad and move him to California! Dont know why I love this show- train wreck theory maybe!!
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Jodie75
Member
08-26-2004
| Thursday, December 25, 2008 - 8:56 pm
So us Canadians were just treated to the Etoilé episode...I am totally disgusted with the foursome's behaviour, in particular the women's pickiness and criticisms. I could only DREAM of eating at Etoilé. I would have loved the oysters and foié gras, and everything else that was served. They turned their noses up at food I could only dream of tasting. It was beyond rude. If they were going to be that nitpicky, they should have chosen items from the a la carte menu. Or maybe they should have gone instead to some cowboy bar, somewhere more suited to Vicki's taste. She could have rode the mechanical bull all she liked, and for once her annoying "who-hooos" wouldn't have been so grating and out-of-place. I was also disgusted by the whole "love tank" discussion. I think Donn isn't openly affectionate because, knowing Vicki, once she's given a little bit, she goes innappropriately too far. I'm sure Donn doesn't want to risk opening that door.
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Landileigh
Member
07-29-2002
| Friday, December 26, 2008 - 10:13 am
from what is known, jeff moved gretchen to california as the hospital there was the only one who gave him even a slight chance of hope to live. i believe that gretchen and jeff knew that he didn't have long to live, so when she got the opportunity for RHOOC they decided to do it so that she would have an "in" once he was gone.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 7:50 am
Thanks Landi! They do show commercial for Cancer Centers of America and I hear they also do offer hope for some... Gretchen to me comes across as happy go lucky on Tv, yet there is more to her, and she has been very vocal about not marrying him while he was so sick... marriage to him wouldve given her more legal standing... (but then, we dont know the will... either way Gretchen and Jeff were emotionally connected - that does come across as real... and sweet.) I still think Vicky knows how to turn it up a notch for tv - cant imagine what will go off for the reunion show! Don still cracks me up as he was so loving, hands on with her this episode!! Tamra is still seeking the spotlight - going back and forth between the two camps - not good... but she did connect with Vicky on the Napa trip - I dont think they realize how nit picky they came across in that Etoile epi - they'll never realize that!!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, December 27, 2008 - 3:13 pm
The Etoile epi didn't surprise me at all! Taste - of any and every kind! -is soooo lacking in this group!
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 7:47 pm
Good lord. That show tonight was a hotter mess than usual. "Cut!" indeed. I was trying to figure out whose antics irritated me the most, but then I decided it would be easier to decide whose irritated me the least. And that award, such as it is, went to Jeana. Lynn's children are...oy (and I agreed with her daughter's bf about that dress). And Tamra's little sit down with Nuggets was simply otherworldly, to say nothing of her comments to Gretchen at dinner. Vicki was....Vicki.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 8:04 pm
Lynn's hair is fried and I don't think she looks that great at all. I felt bad for Gretchen. And I thought Jeana looked amazing!!! lol .. Ms. 15-year-old did look like a stripper.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Tuesday, December 30, 2008 - 9:53 pm
Wow ~ To have your own mom pressuring you to dress like a hooker when you're only 15. Ayee. Lyn is making the others look pretty good and I never thought anyone would be able to do that.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 4:19 am
I felt so bad for Gretchen last night. Tamra was way out of line making a comment about Gretchen taking a day off to spend a day with her family after nursing Jeff for eight months. It is not like he was alone in the hospital - his children were with him. And Lynn??? Sometimes it is best not to say anything. CUT!!!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 7:20 am
I only caught Tamra talking to her son about the tatt inside of his lip an I don't know if that was a new ep or repeat. But I wanted to smack him because I'm sorry but a tatt inside your mouth is stupid an ick. He thought he was going to be a father, never told his parents. First I don't even know if I could calmly discuss that in front of a camera and millions of people watching so was that even true? Or scripted, not the tatt but his reasoning in getting it an then telling his mom on camera. I mean that wasn't even good drama. That's something that should've been discussed behind closed doors. I don't know I guess it was too much for me.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 7:57 am
I actually didn't believe Tamra's son's story. Call me jaded, but it sounded like a line of BS just to make his mother get off his case. Lynn looks about 45, in my book. I don't find her attractive (yuck on the hair!) or young looking at all. Her oldest daughter is such a snob and I'm glad her father only bought her a $22,500 used 2005 BMW, ha ha ha! And I agree that her younger daughter looked ick with that get-up. Gretchen appeared genuinely shocked at Tamra's comment at the dinner table. She should have told her that his children were with him and that she deserved a "me" weekend once in a while. Jeana mentioned that, but I wish she'd have said that at the table to shut Tamra up. How freakin childish are these women? Excusing themselves to go to the bathroom was just so obviously a way for Tamra and Vicki to go snark on the others in private. Blech on the lot of them! I want my New York City housewives back!!
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