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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 4:38 am
Maybe she was worried that saying the brand would get her in trouble?
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 8:24 am
I suppose the reason Kelly didn't state the fragrance name could be because she didn't have permission to, but I guess that Kelly sees herself above the other women. Folks tell alot about themselves. Her conversation with Bethenney where she said I'm up here and you're down there spoke volumes. To Kelly she's above. Well guess what Kelly you don't have a good figure at all and you're tanning so much you look older than Ramona who's 14 years your senior. Am I being bitchy? Yeah. I don't like her at all.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:38 am
Doesn't it drive you crazy how these people with tons of money make fun of Bethenny for trying to EARN money? Good grief, like it is a sin to want nice things and be willing to work for it! I guess the only legit way in their eyes to get money is to find a sugar daddy.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 10:58 am
Well said Alison!!
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 3:20 pm
Actually, the NY housewives, as a group, seem to be harder-working than the "housewives" of some of the other franchises. More of the New York gals seem to have jobs--unlike, for example, Kim of Atlanta, etc.
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Saturday, April 10, 2010 - 6:35 pm
Kim and of Atlanta is what I like to call ............. a hot mess.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 5:10 pm
FWIW, Bethenny has talked about her father before and did say that they didn't have a relationship. So yes, we knew that he, at least, was alive. Jill is definitely all about the underdog. She, apparently, only has time for one friend who is homeless/unmarried/not working/destitute/pathetic. Now that Luann "needs" Jill, Jill no longer has time in her life for her previous "needy" friends. I totally love how Jill counts both the good and bad. Girl, it's not a debit and credit system. Kelly and the "fragrance." HAHAHAHA! Yeah, I caught that. And it was priceless.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 7:40 pm
I am astounded that someone at the stage of life that Jill Zarin is at would still be playing these kinds of 'frienemy' games! I would be so embarrassed to be shown behaving like that. Even Kelly was shocked by that email that she got.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 10:08 pm
Noticably absent on Bravo's site are Luann and Jill's blogs for the past show. Am guessing that they are seeing the shows as we are and realizing how childish they both are behaving. If anyone has seen the blogs and I'm missing them please post it. I keep checking Bravo's site but so far nothing there.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Sunday, April 11, 2010 - 11:31 pm
Shenanagon~ Jill hasn't posted but Luann did. Ugh is all I can say.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 3:16 am
Alisons, I totally echo what you're saying about the "housewives'" behavior being game-play. I find it juvenile and akin to what much younger women would engage in--younger, as in middle-school to high school girls!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 4:55 am
Jill suddenly has her Twitter page marked "This person has protected their tweets". She has had her Twitter page forever, and it was always gushing about all of her jet setting and "look at the awesome things I can do because I have money..." sorts of posts. But since this season began, every time she linked to a photo or article her followers were posting how they agreed with Bethenny and such. I guess she's seeing that her "fans" aren't all behind her 100% anymore, so she's going all quiet now. I understand that her Facebook fan page is getting the same sort of negative posts.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 5:27 am
Thanks Misty I'm going to go read Luawful's blog. I been checking Bravo's site so much last night she must have posted at 3am or something lol. Whoa Hukdon now that's interesting, thanks for sharing. I'm Tweet challenged so don't go there but that surely is interesting!! hehe
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 5:30 am
Ahh I'd missed that one from Luann on April 8th thank you again Misty. Jill hasn't put up a blog since April 4th.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 7:08 am
Hukd, two words: what fans? 
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 7:30 am
Interesting article about all the gossip about them in the papers so far. One thing I would like to disagree w/ is what Bethanny said on the Wendy Williams show. What Bethanny actually said was that she feels closer to Wendy now than when before she STARTED the show. She did not mean during the seasons of doing the show. That was a mislead on the author's part. ______________________________________________ The dramatic off camera lives of the NYC Housewives exploded last week with Bethenny Frankel going on national television to denounce her friendship with Jill Zarin. Jill was reported to be “devastated” when Bethenny went on the Wendy Williams show to speak out about their feud. Bethenny claimed to Wendy that her and Jill were “never really friends.” Bethenny went on to say that she felt closer to Wendy then she ever did to Jill. Sources say Jill was heartbroken “because she considered Bethenny a true friend. Jill felt it was the ultimate stab in the heart for Bethenny not only to abandon her when she needed her most (while Bobby battled cancer) but to denounce their friendship on national television.” Um, excuse us Bethenny, didn’t you stay at Jill’s house in the Hamptons and sleep in the same bed with her? Was Jill’s mother not giving you motherly advice and offering to adopt you? If that isn’t a friend then we don’t know what is. Nevertheless, the ladies have seperated into two teams both on and off camera. Jill Zarin leads team Jill, with LuAnn De Lesepps and Kelly Bensimon are on her side. Bethenny Franlel leads team Bethenny with Ramona Singer and Alex McCord on her side. The drama in the press between the two camps has played out like a well crafted soap opera with Page 6 most recently reporting on Ramona Singer and Kelly Bensimon’s bar room brawl. Apparently, Ramona and Kelly showed up to the same night club and refused to speak to each other or be photographed together. Later, Ramona barged her way into the VIP area and jumped over a table to sit next to Kelly who was chatting with Khloe Kardashian. offended by Ramona’s behavior, Kelly simply walked off. Later in the week, LuAnn caused a stir with Ramona by planning a competing premiere party for the show, as reported in the Daily News. Ramona’s fete, thrown last week at Tenjune was heavily promoted to the press as the official premiere even though it was not an official Bravo party. In fact, Ramona paid for the gig herself. Bethenny Frankel, Alex McCord and new Housewives Sonjia Morgan and Jennifer Gilbert showed up to support. Jill Zarin, LuAnn De Lesseps and Kelly Bensimon did not attend. In fact, The Daily News reported that LuAnn didn’t show up to Ramona’s party because she saw “no reason to attend” since she is throwing her very own fete. Were was Jill? Everyone who reads Jill’s facebook knew that Bobby’s mom died and that is why she couldn’t attend. At least Ramona put the entire cast photo on her invitation. LuAnn’s invite, on the other hand, was a photo of herself in a gown laying on top of a piano. Desperate for more attention, Bethenny took aim at Kelly in an LA TIMES interview calling her “sociologically psychotic”. Then, Alex and Simon got into the action by inferring in the Daily News that Jill Zarin had no reason to be at The Sundance Film Festival since she doesn’t have a film premiering but then recanted when it was reported that Jill was invited to Sundance by the Creative Coalition to discuss the epidemic of Obesity in America. Perhaps Silex learned their lesson when the Daily News reported the following week that they were not going to be asked back for Season 4 of the show. As Gawker says, as goes Jill Zarin, so goes the audience. Not to be outdone, Kelly called Bethenny “Scary” in US WEEKLY. According to Hollywood Life, Bethenny says that Ramona is going to be in her delivery room not Jill. LuAnn didn’t invite the new Housewives Sonia Morgan and Jennifer Gilbert to her premiere party, despite the fact that Jennifer got her the venue says the Daily News. According to Page 6, Alex and Simon crashed fashion week and were jealous that Jill and Kelly got all of the attention and press at the fashion shows they attended together. With all of this drama off camera, you must tune into season 3 of The Real Housewives of New York City this Thursday, March 4 on Bravo at 11pm to find out what has caused all of this friction. As someone close to the show, each week I will share with you inside information about all of the juicy drama that is happening with the Housewives on and off camera. With pleasure, Bravo Gossip
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 9:05 am
I find it interesting that Bethany went on and on about Jill going to the press about thier fight but here Bethany is going on a talk show to blab about it. So, if Jill gives a story to a reporter (as Bethany believes) it is terrible, but, to go on a tv show that is national to talk trash ... that is perfectly fine? I don't agree with some of Jill's behavior, but, I am not on team Bethany that is for sure. I just don't understand why people think she is all that.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 10:48 am
In my opinion Bethenney has every right to discuss her Jill drama because it's already gone to Perez Hilton and other gossip columns as we all saw on the recent RHofNY show that was filmed months ago. To claim Bethenney is wrong or the same is debatable. Shying away from speaking on it could be interpreted negatively toward Bethenney at this point so she's really in a no win situation no matter what she does.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:17 am
Bethenny went on the Wendy Williams Show in February to publicize her new cookbook. This was after the current season finished filming, and after all the pieces in the Daily News and on perez.com. WW specifically asked her about the fight with Jill, which had taken place months earlier. Here is a Youtube of her appearance if you would like to put it in context: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEGzi35-e18&feature=related Jill talked about the fight to everyone and anyone before and during the filming of this past season. Bethenny talking about it now is just her responding to questions people are asking.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 11:53 am
Don't forget too that Bethenny has a brand to protect now. So if she's getting negative press, she has every right to counter that press.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 12:14 pm
I'm more interested in the Ramona/Kelly brawl from the article I posted above. The Bethany/Jill thing is so overdone. I can't even take sides. It's stupid. I need to save my last 3 brain cells to even spell the word stupid.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 2:55 pm
Heh. Jill's Status on Facebook: Jill Zarin So..what do you do when you have a fight with a friend..and you don't want to make up yet...then when your ready they don't want to? You write, call and send gifts. Suggestions welcome!
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 2:56 pm
My favorite comment so far: You wait until you are shown on TV being really hateful and mean. Then when you realize you are loosing fans left and right - right before your book comes out, You post this stupid question on facebook to try to gain some sympathy. Too late.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 3:10 pm
Jill does not want to admit that she has over reacted and with the 'encouragement " of Luanne does not know how to remedy the Bethenny situation.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Monday, April 12, 2010 - 4:56 pm
ITA !!
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