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Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
That piece that she did was awful! I can't believe she was so proud of it. Even though they said that Mark's piece was boring it was a 100 times better than that childs work she provided. Did she have anything to say, I missed the very ending of the show.

Kappy
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06-28-2002

Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
I admit that I've only watched portions here and there but the problem for me is that they have all kinds of artists represented including ones like Jaime who would be better off doing adwork, cartoons or children's books. If they were looking for "fine art", why didn't they choose better from the applicants to begin with? In that sense, I find this show difficult to watch.

It's also not new to push the female who uses her sexuality while pushing males who don't. Same old same old for the art world.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Thursday, July 08, 2010 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
I think Jamie had the weakest work so deserved to go, but I'm so over Jaclyn's obsession with her looks. She has been so one note, more so than the others. Some of the others seem to have at least several notes in their repertoire, but she seems to be torn between wanting to be looked at as sexy and beautiful, and resenting, at the same time, anyone noticing. I think she is attractive with a lovely body, but not as beautiful as she seems to think she is. My goodness, if she takes out that camera one more time and goes into the bathroom to take more pictures of herself, I feel the judges just have to call her on it.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
FINALLY Eric is gone. Yeah, he was the "outsider" but his behavior made sure he stayed on the outside. He said he didn't participate because the others shot down his ideas but that was because his ideas were pretty amateurish and/or downright crappy and his talent didn't hold a candle to most of the others.

Contempt for the judges and his competitors, not to mention his anger management issues became the perfect storm that guaranteed his elimination. He defeated himself.

If he had managed to express all his insecurities, anger, defensiveness, and contempt of everyone involved in the show in his art work, he might've fared better.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But his inexperience and anger issues prevented that from happening. He totally deserved to go. I think the only reason that team lost was because of him, his attitude. The judges wanted to kick him out, and the only way they could was if he was on the losing team.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I agree with you guys. I thought that's why Miles' team lost, so they could open the door to boot Erik.

His attitude was awful. I appreciate self taught artists, a whole lot. But, I also have respect for what an art education can give. His lack of respect was just ugly. It's obvious it was due to how insecure he was.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If he had only shown an interest in learning, there might have been a glimmer of redemption. But he had such a massive chip on his shoulder surrounding his lack of formal training. He was surrounded by people who had training in all areas of art. I would have thought he'd have wanted to soak up as much learning as he could from them. Instead he chose to take the pity party to a whole new level.

Foolscap
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09-04-2004

Friday, July 16, 2010 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Foolscap a private message Print Post    
I've got to add my agreement to you last three posters. I, like Smokey, am an artist, as are most of my friends. Although I did go to art school, some of my artist friends did, some didn't and whether they did or didn't doesn't seem to make much difference in how good they are. The subject rarely even comes up.

I wanted to like Erik but that chip on his shoulder, which I agree grew from his insecurities, just really weighs him down. I got where I thought if he mentioned one more time that he wasn't "trained" like everyone else, I was going to explode, or implode or something. No one cares or is going to ask if you've been "trained". If you feel compelled to make art, just do it and see what happens. If it touches someone or catches their eye, i sincerely doubt they're going to care what school you went to or even if you went to school. I imagine there are people in the art world who might care about such things, but in my experience, not many.

I do hope he can get over his anger and not think losing on a TV show means he should give up the whole idea of being an artist. Not everything he did was totally awful. Perhaps if he worked at it his potential would have time to develop and seem less amateurish.

It also kind of bugged me that he seemed to think, in addition to, or because of having no art "training" his life had been so much harder than everyone else. Does he really know what al the other contestants life has been like?

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Monday, July 19, 2010 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
Check out Jaclyn's blog. She is much more intelligent and much more self-aware than the show portrays her.

Jaclyn's blog

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, July 27, 2010 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I have a feeling that most of the artists feel the same way about Miles that Erik did; they are just more discrete, knowing that it just makes one look petty to complain.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I felt a little sorry for Mark. I think he was intimidated by Peregrine and let her run the whole show. It was definitely his fault, for not being more firm and defined in his own expression, rather than relying on hers. I still don't understand how Mark's incision scar represented Heaven or Hell.

Miles, Miles, Miles. Manipulate much? LOL He reminds me of a really smart, but bad, school boy who likes to shake things up or make things happen. He's learned he can get away with it and he does it. I think he seemed so satisfied with himself that he could gently push Jaclyn into doing what he wanted. But--it worked for them.

I really didn't much care for any of their pieces last night.

Jezzedout
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09-07-2006

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jezzedout a private message Print Post    
Have to say I'm liking this show a lot and hope they bring it back for another season. As someone who has been exploring my inner artist for the past few years, I enjoy seeing the different creative approaches and the way the different artists use materials.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I felt WAY sorry for Mark. Peregrine, cute necklace and all, basically told him his body was hell and disgusting.

Funny how Miles isn't showing his Aspergers-like symptoms as much now. Strategy? Or editing?

Jaclyn cracks me up.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Thursday, July 29, 2010 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
Smokey, and Yankee, I agree with both of you.

My husband watched this with me and chuckled when Miles suggested Jacyn disrobe again for her art. He said, " Gee, that kid's in a win, win situation". And it was funny seeing Jaclyn act hesitant about the nudity.

As I mentioned previoulsy, I too paint and sculpt, but sometimes the art world is really hysterical in their interpretations. I think it would be funny to have a bunch of 3 or 4 year olds paint and smear all kinds of things around on diffrent canvases, then bring in some dogs to walk through everything, and a few Chimps to throw paint on a wall, bring in the Art critics, just tell them it was some famous artist, and listen to what is said, it would make a great candid camera segment.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Final three! Jaclyn finally went home, yeah! Miles and Abdi in final 3. Oh, Abdi was winner. I thought that Abdi's work was spectacular, Miles ok.

Peregrine is also in the final 3 but I thought that Nicole's piece was much better, so was sorry that Peregrine won the last place.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Abdi finally impressed me. Miles not so much.

I actually liked Jaclyn's piece best, probably because of the minimalism of it. I liked pieces of Peregrine's (until she added her cartoon figures) and loved the center of Nicole's, but hated the rest of it.

Miles' just confused me.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
I just love Abdi, his mother did a wonderful job raising such a delightful, nice, talented young man. I adored his work, so moving.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
You know what bugged me about Peregrine? Her struggle to figure out what her sculpture "meant." I can actually buy that she didn't start with a solid concept but just let the organic flow of the sculpture happen. Even though I wasn't fond of the piece to begin with, she lost me when she changed her descriptors of its intention to match Miles' suggestion of "teens having sex in the woods."

Umm, if someone gives that to you AFTER you've finished 90% of it, then it's NOT what your piece means or says. You've retrofitted. And it bugged me that she let it go down that way. It felt dishonest.

There, I said it. But I still want her necklace. And Jaclyn is still ridiculous. And the quality of light in Abdi's piece was stunning.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Did you have the feeling last night that the only way Miles would go home would be if he just did not present anything? I think he could put a white canvas with a black dot and they would find the polar bear in it.

I saw absolutely no connection with nature even in an indirect way. Nothing. He did not even need the elaborate contraption he built. He could have laid the plastic on the floor, drew the dots on it and then poked holes in it. It just seemed like the whole thing was ridiculous.

Abdi showed last night that he has great talent. I could see his message and his piece did not look like amateurish. It brought tears to my eyes for some reason. Talk about revealing your soul.

That has been my problem the whole season with so much of what they have done. Even when I could see the message in a piece, it so often looked like something an elementary school student did. I realize they are rushed for time but still.

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, August 06, 2010 - 4:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
I know absolutely nothing about art. That being said I find this show fascinating. I decided after the first episode Miles will win. It's a given.

I agree with Lexie. I'll go further, he could put up a blank canvas and the judges would oooh and aaah, fall all over themselves, and give us the hidden meaning behind the piece. LOL

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, August 06, 2010 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Sorry Allietex. Said Lexie, meant you. I tend to agree with Lexie on many subjects.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Saturday, August 07, 2010 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Abdi is my favorite!

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Sunday, August 08, 2010 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I love Abdi, too. How could you not? He's such a gentle, sensitive, beautiful soul. I think he was just too stressed to produce, in some of the past challenges. He did really well in the first challenge, and then in this most recent challenge. I absolutely loved what he did! Wow. It was so powerful in such a gentle way.

Miles...well, Miles is Miles. I get intrigued by his crazy, mad-scientist way of producing things. I don't always like what he ends up with and many times, I just don't get it at all. I do appreciate his creativity.

Peregrine has never drawn me in. I preferred Nicole. I love quirky, and Peregrine seems to be quirky, but still, I just don't find her appealing.

Abdi for the win. :-)

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, August 09, 2010 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Peregrine seems to have a lack of personality that would want to draw someone in. Nicole had personality. I was sorry to see her go and actually would've preferred to see Peregrine leave.

While I appreciate Miles and all of his quirks, what about nature actually inspired that piece? That was a hot mess in more ways than one. Bleach dribbled thru holes? Really? I know art is very subjective but I'm not even sure I'd have called that art.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, August 09, 2010 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I agree about Peregine and Miles. I don't fully get Miles, but I do see he's a genius.