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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:45 pm
Interesting. So in a sense Bristol truly is the winner for ABC. 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:52 pm
Jimmer, oh yeah, that's definitely true. Much like Kate Gosselin drove ratings last season, and they fell after Kate was voted off. This season the ratings are up, and I'm sure that's because people came specifically to follow Bristol, as well as vote for her, that aren't typical DWTS fans. And while I don't want to out and out accuse the judges of cheating, I think there was pressure on them to keep Bristol around at least to final four. It simply cannot have been lost on them that the ratings fell after Kate went home last season. I do think the judges were surprised that she made it to final three, however. The question is, who will they get next season to keep the trend going? 
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:00 pm
Snooki
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:05 pm
Gah! If they do that, that'll be another season I won't have to worry about watching! 
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:07 pm
So I think it is reasonable to correlate the higher ratings for Bristol with at least some additional real votes for Bristol. After all while Bristol may not be as good a dancer as Jennifer, I think it is safe to say that she is a much better dancer than Kate. Plus the higher scores from the judges (which Kate didn't receive) have added to her legitimacy as a true contender.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:10 pm
Hahaha, Puzzled! She is a better dancer than Kate, for sure. And of course Brandy was arguably better than Kyle and he stayed also. As I said above, I do think many of the votes are from people who are watching simply to support Bristol. That does not also mean that I don't think there's some hanky panky going on with the voting also. I don't know how much that factors in of course. And hey Justin Beiber just swept the AMA's, and that's all online voting too. Hard to imagine that he was the best *artist* available. It's just a changing world, isn't it? Don't have to like it, but I do think it's appropriate and fascinating to discuss it....
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:12 pm
I'm tellin ya, I want the DUGGARS next season!
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:36 pm
Hukd, that'll never happen. Duggars don't dance.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:41 pm
Doesn't stop me from wanting them to! And I'll bet you Jinger will dance one day...or she dances secretly when she "goes shopping for Momma and Daddy". ha ha ha, that Jinger is a rebel for sure!
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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:43 pm
Snooki! Snooki! Snooki!
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Brian2204
Member
09-14-2004
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:29 pm
Just a random question here....since I don't have a VCR, DVR or any other kind of R, perhaps someone with a recorder can slow or freeze the program as the credits crawl; It seems to me that most of these so called "reality" competitions have some kind of disclaimer stating that the Producers have discretion as to the outcome. If that be the case then you can bet the producers (ABC) would want to keep the most talked about contestants as that's what increases ratings.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:45 pm
For anyone who might have recording issues, here's a warning that >>>> tonight's show is 73 MINUTES LONG <<<< (seriously!) running from 8.00 to 9.13pm.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:48 pm
DirecTV shows it from 8 to 9:13.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-02-2002
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:49 pm
Can someone post the phone numbers so I can throw a few votes out? TIA!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 2:53 pm
Brian, I've just looked at the credits of the hulu version (which I believe is identical to broadcast) of both the dance show and the results show, and neither had any kind of disclaimer over the voting/outcome. I can't believe the producers have any say over the result (although of course their input into presentation, storylines, hype etc. may affect voting) otherwise there would have been quite a few different results over the years. Imagine them letting David Hasselhoff go on week one this year, for instance. He was the talk of the show at the beginning, and suddenly all that investment went to nothing because no one voted for him and like a flash he was gone.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:25 pm
My cable has it (and my DVR too) 8:00 - 9:13pm Of course that is because they just assume everyone will slide right into Skating With the Stars airing from 9:13 - 11:00pm. Hmm PBS here is airing Materpiece Contemporary and tonight's show is a new documentary on John Lennon,, 8:00 - 9:30pm. -- So tonight they perform two dances, judges score them, we vote, tomorrow they perform their favorite dances.. it is a two hour show. Do the judges score those? That would (and I think in the past did) give the judges an edge to tilt the final decision.. or not.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:32 pm
My cable guide says tomorrow they do two dances: their favorite and an insta-dance to the cha cha. I was hoping the judges score them.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:35 pm
What's an insta-dance?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:44 pm
Hukd, that's what they called that thing they made do where they had to learn their dance just to the beat, and not get to hear the song until it was time to dance.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:46 pm
Interesting, Tisha... what is your cable provider? Mine is Time Warner and they tend to cut off parts of the description.. So all they say is: "NEW (1010) The finalists perform their favorite dances; Christina Aguilera. the winner is announced. Yep that is exactly how they have it with the semicolon and the lower case "t" Of course favorite dances could mean more than one.. I assume the finalists are the final TWO? Anyway one or two, if the judges score them tomorrow, which I think they do, then they get the final say to some extent.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:52 pm
Here's the ABC announcement: In the final performance show on MONDAY, NOV. 22 (8:00-9:00 p.m., ET), each of the couples will compete in two dances. In an effort to show their improvement over the course of the season, all three couples will dance for redemption by re-choreographing and doing a previously performed dance chosen by the judges with new music for a better score. Each couple will also perform the unpredictable and always entertaining no rules Freestyle dance. In the two-hour Season Finale on TUESDAY, NOV. 23 (9:00-11:00 p.m., ET), the thrill of the competition will continue as the three finalists perform their personal favorite ballroom dance of the season and will be ranked by the judges. In the final element of the competition on Tuesday, each of the couples will do an "Instant Dance" -- in which they will have to master the Cha Cha Cha to music they've been given for the first time after the show's broadcast has begun. [...Christina Aguilera blurb...] All of the frenzy and anticipation will lead up to the moment we've all been waiting for when the couples' scores from the judges will be combined with the audience votes to determine who among the three finalists will win reign as champion of "Dancing with the Stars" and take home the coveted mirror ball trophy. It sounds like all three couples will do all four dances. And on previous seasons they've stressed that although the judges have a second day to score the couples, the judges' scores still only count as half the total score.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:53 pm
Sea, I'm on TW too. I didn't know about Ms Aguilera, OTOH!
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Chief
Member
08-09-2009
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:13 pm
Karuuna said: FWIW, I think the vast majority of Bristol votes are legitimate. I think many of them come from people who think she has done well. Karuuna, I agree with just about everything you've said, except this. Maybe some votes, but not a vast majority. This whole thing just reeks of distasteful antics, IMO. And as an extention of that, I also believe that those "legitimate" votes must be coming from a) people who also have two left feet of their own or b) insert any myriad of false justifications for keeping her there over any other true dancer. Poor Mark. I'll bet he's caught H, E, double hockey sticks all week. His credibility is also now in jeopardy as a professional for sure. I'll also bet that he and/or the producers have realized(demanded) that Bristol's gotta bring it this week or else. The show may surely be about ratings, as someone said upthread, but this *is* a dancing show so ABC's credibility is on the line, too.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:23 pm
I've set my DVR to record tomorrow night's show (for the first time this season) *because* Aguilera will be on it. I'll prob'ly FF thru everything until her performance(s).
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Colordeagua
Member
10-24-2003
| Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:27 pm
Poor Mark. I'll bet he's caught H, E, double hockey sticks all week. His credibility is also now in jeopardy as a professional for sure. Why? I don't understand that. Because Bristol's not dancing better because of Mark? I think he's done the best he can with her. He's partnered two mirrorball trophy winners so far.
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