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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 6:18 pm
No way in the world would Angelo have made celery and peanut butter mousse if he hadn't had immunity. No way. I don't like him at all, and I did hear Kenny say something to him along the lines of celery not being enough of a vegetable. If Kenny was supposed to do a dessert, how exactly was he supposed to force Angelo to do a real vegetable? Just like that other team tried to get Amanda to use tomato sause instead of sherry to braise the chicken. There just isn't any real way for them to control what their teammates are doing, and if each person is responsible for his/her own dish, then it didn't seem fair to berate Kenny for Angelo's crappy "vegetable" offering. I also didn't like the way that one guy on the "sherry chicken" team (don't know his name) had to butt himself into the conversation while the judges were berating Kenny's team about the lack of veggies. He was simply trying to divert the attention away from himself and his team's crappy food.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 6:34 pm
Angelo - like his teammate had a voice? - picking Kenny and Ed for their team was a win - win situation. If they were on top, they were on TOP. If they were on the bottom, it was a chance to get rid of Kenny! Didn't happen - up yours, Angelo! As I said in Design Star thread, I HATE team challenges! I have competed on volleyball, basketball, swim and water ballet teams, but in all those instances the TEAM won or lost as an entity. Lest I sound far more jocky that I am, I am only even pretty good ar volleyball and water ballet and suck at the other two!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 6:39 pm
The chef who jumped in was mushy rice guy, Stephen. I think Jaqueline got the short end of the stick, but she should have yelled much louder when they were getting the groceries. Of course, I would have no idea how to tell if bananas were going to be good or "starchy" so what the heck would I know?? LOL
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, June 23, 2010 - 6:56 pm
I'm getting tired of people who work in these convoluted groups that cop out and say they never got their voices heard or in this case product bought. Hopefully they will learn a life lesson.
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 2:14 am
Thanks for the reminders, Teach, that makes 2 disasters for Stephen from Ohio now! Angelo - the Sandwich Dude - did seem to throw Kenny under the bus. And the excess sugar vs sherry fiasco where both gals should have known better was laughable. The challenge was helping tweens get healthier not heftier? The judge who didn't like the mac & cheese must not have kids. It was their favorite!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 6:12 am
Tn, hon, the difference is that, ultimately, in any "ball" sports, the team sticks together. In Top Chef (and other reality shows), the team is stuck together, good or bad, for only that challenge. And the team mentality is lacking, because these folks would stick forks in their competitors' backs so they could climb their way to the top.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 6:24 am
Yep, Costa, you are 100% right, and that is whyy I HATE team challenges! SG - You've got mail!
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 6:25 am
Had to jump in long enough to say Sherry? Really? In a school lunch? And I was rolling when Tom said her piece of chicken looked like someone put a turd on the plate! I thought she should've gone instead of Jacqueline, for using the sherry. imho, Jacqueline would've been gone soon anyway, but sherry? Really? (a little obsessed about the sherry, aren't I? lol)
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Missyb
Member
07-28-2004
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 7:19 am
This seems like a much more aggresive group of cheftestants. By aggeressive I mean hostilely competitive. I was a little surprised at judges table how much others were pointing fingers at other teams and I am guessing that there were leading questions that were edited out. The seasons have progressively been getting more aggressive and I think it is the use of editing. My opinion, could be completely off the mark. Use of sherry in school lunch ? All kinds of wrong. On the other hand, could open up all kinds f doors in interesting young minds into becoming cooks and chefs !
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 7:50 am
I also was shocked that they used Sherry on that chicken--on a very limited budget they actually spent money on Sherry? I thought it was ridiculous. She should have been the one to go, IMO.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 9:28 am
I don't know if the seasons have been increasingly aggressive, maybe competitive, but I thought there was much more respect and assisting competitors (with a notable exception) and with poor Brian having said something once and had it shown over and over and over - the same clip as if he had said it 100 times). Season 2 was aggressive and miserable, won't watch a repeat of that year. A team is a team, I can't think of a person throwing a lunch like Angelo before. Maybe they will get rid of immunity and put in money rewards again, that is a better choice, last year too many light weights won quick fires and stuck around. While it is hard to believe that anyone wants to be on a losing team - I keep thinking peanut butter and celery? really? Being a chef is more than cooking though, in this elimination, they got rid of someone who would not fight for their dish and violated the very point of the exercise - i.e. healthy food.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 9:39 am
I haven't watched this yet, but PB&celery is actually a healthy snack. And yummy. Dunno about PB mousse, though. 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 9:40 am
BTW, are there way more chefs than normal this season? It seems 16 is an awful lot of chefs to get to know this early in the game. I don't recall other seasons having 16 chefs. (And I'm too lazy to go look 'em up! )
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 9:44 am
It may be a healthy snack, but a vegetable course? And the originality needed for a top chef competition. Just how much effort would it take if you don't include growing your own celery? Even grinding your own nuts does not take all that long. How much time did Anthony have for himself Vs helping others?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:20 am
Same number of chefs as the last couple of seasons.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 10:24 am
Really? Thanks Jimmer! It just seems like soooooooooo many chefs!!! (Then again, I barely watched the first show and haven't had a chance to watch last night's, so no wonder I'm confused as to who is who!)
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 3:28 pm
Some of these chefs need to be on the Next Food Network Star! Seriously a better bunch of chefs - they must have a life!! Sherry should not have been allowed imho, as a mom, it would've given me pause to know it was served at school - at a restaurant, no problem, but its a fact that the alcohol is not burned off! And didnt the federal govt decree that ketchup is a vegatable in school lunches, ergo a tomato is a veg? (However, I do agree that they could've done so much better in that department!) Genius use of yogurt with the winning team, those fruit kabobs looked great too! Very smart!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, June 24, 2010 - 6:01 pm
Certainly a tomato is a fruit, but I would bet that nine out of ten people consider it a veggie when doing menu planning. When I do a tomato basil pasta sauce, I don't think of it as a fruit-based sauce. However, I am not sure that I am ready to consider ketchup as a veggie either!
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Dbleagle
Member
08-13-2009
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 4:22 am
Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing that you don't put it in a fruit salad?
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 4:50 am
LOL! Exactly!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 5:24 am
LOL Dbleagle. ITA with tomato/fruit (its all in the seed) However, if the Federal Govt "regulates the school menu - I think the show should've given the chefs those guidelines as well... for instance the calorie count - is stipulated in some cafeterias (not familiar with all, I did try and google, but didnt spend a whole lot of time on it!)
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 5:28 am
As I picked up around the place this morning, I entertained myself by trying to think of a tomato-fruit paring that would be tasty. The only one I could come up with is lemon as my tomato aspic recipe has lemon juice in it. Anyone else inspired?
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 7:13 am
From the first episode, some of them were talking about using strategy to get rid of others. Here's a concept ~ work at being a good chef and skip the wasted time plotting to get rid of others. Typical Bravo to take a show supposedly based on talent and make it about who can oust who instead. I think we're being set up for a Kenny vs Angelo finale which is fine with me because both seem very skilled. However, is it really necessary to make them dislike each other so much in the process? Come on, Bravo - I'll take watching talent over drama any day. Don't ruin every show you have.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 8:44 am
http://www.fns.usda.gov/cnd/lunch/ Ronald Reagan's administration decreed that ketchup would count as the vegetable in the school lunch program. All school lunches must offer pasteurized whole milk (but most are also providing skim and 2% when I was in school, chocolate & strawberry was added this decade). Sherry was completely inappropriate. Never be allowed in a school feeding program. First few weeks allows the wheat from the husk to be eliminated, no one goes home who has an inkling of a chance. Get rid of the deadweight and we'll get the better chefs with the final 10.

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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 25, 2010 - 9:36 am
Rich Sweeney from Top Chef some season ago (can't remember which one) opened up a new restaurant here. Called R Gang Eatery, it's gotten really lovely reviews. I'm dying to go, but I'm waiting for a friend to take me. He did the construction work and is a good friend of Rich's and so I wanna go with an "in"! 
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