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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 10:14 am
PS. The happiest woman I know is a family friend who lives with two bisexual men. Think about it - great arrangement! They are all very happy!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 7:49 pm
Oprah: Thursday 10/14 All New! the Sister Wives Controversy: Fascinating Families: All new! Inside the "Sister Wives" (All New! Seems to be some catch phrase with Oprah this season? Haven't watched her show for some time, but all the blurbs on my DVR seem to contain this..)
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 7:56 pm
my question is (and it may have been answered on the show .. I haven't seen all of them).. What is going to be the 4th wife's role?... the other three have had 16 years to "fine tune" their roles .. stay at home mom/homeschool teacher .. working outside the home... the mom to go to to get your tooth pulled...wouldn't you think they would have discussed this? And is she always going to live in the house a couple of blocks away or are they going to add on to the current home?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 7:59 pm
Need, not answered and many of us are probably hoping to get an answer to the same questions.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 11:24 pm
Ha!ha! Needmylifeback, the other three wives have already assigned #4 her role: they've said she is to be Kody's "trophy wife." Funny enough, they all agreed that he "deserved it." Self-deprecating humor, for sure.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 6:24 pm
Well.. not sure I ever trust the Star.. BUT.. if they are accurate in their article.. there is a real sinster undercurrent here.. http://celebrifi.com/gossip/Star-Two-of-the-Sister-Wives-want-out-could-be-barred-from-seeing-their-kids-3665907.html Star: Two of the Sister Wives want out, could be barred from seeing their kids Star Magazine has a story that injects some more controversy into the new face of Polygamy, the “Sister Wives” Brown family of Lehi, Utah. Star’s source is a former polygamist wife who escaped from the fundamentalist Mormon Sect to which the Brown’s belong. She is sort-of Kody’s former Sister-in-law (see the story below, she was a Sister wife along with Kody’s Sister) and tells Star that if any of the four Wives want to leave Kody they’ll probably be permanently separated from their kids and excommunicated, as is common among followers of their religion/cult. It’s a sobering look into what really goes on in typical polygamist families, and shows that the reality for The Brown Wives isn’t what we’re seeing on TV. I think Star just added the stuff about Janelle and Christine wanting out based on what this woman told them, but it could be true. Here’s part of Star’s story: What would you do if you had to choose between staying in a bad marriage or losing your Children? That’s the heartbreaking dilemma behind the scenes of Sister Wives for Janelle and Christine Brown, the second and third Wives of Utah polygamist Kody Brown. Sources say the duo have grown increasingly unhappy about their lives with Kody, to the point that they’ve considered leaving him. But should that happen, Star has learned, they could automatically lose Custody of their combined 12 Children to Kody, by order of their mysterious Religious Sect. And there could be even more frightening consequences. “Janelle and Christine can smile for the cameras all they want and say how everything is great, but Janelle has cried on my shoulder many times,” a family friend tells Star . “She told me she and Christine are so sick of how Kody’s desire to be a TV Star is pulling the family apart, plus all the attention he lavishes on his new, young wife, Robyn, that they’ve talked about Divorce.” But to do that would mean leaving themselves at the mercy of the mysterious Sect Kody, 42, and his Wives belong to. Star has learned that the Apolistic United Brethren - also known as the Allred Group - is a Sect that broke away from the traditional Mormom church long ago and is headquartered in the town of Bluffdale, Utah less than 10 miles from the Brown family home in the neighboring town of Lehi. Trying to Break away from a marriage within the Sect can be a nightmare, says Janae Thorne-Bird - who did just that and founded Utah’s Heartstrong Living Center, a safe haven for women escaping Polygamy. Incredibly, Janae tells Star that she formerly shared a husband in Montana with Kody’s younger Sister, Christy, 39 - and she warns Janelle, 41, and Christine, 38, of the possible dangers ahead should they choose to leave Kody. “I was forced by our Sect to give my ex-husband Full Custody of our 10 Children, and they were raised by Christy and his other Wives,” claims Janae. “I was barred from even seeing my kids, and they were hidden away from me. I reunited with seven of them once they were no longer minors and could choose to walk away, but my three youngest are still trapped in the Sect.” [From Star Magazine, print edition, October 18, 2010] That’s heartbreaking and now I understand why there’s an investigation into the Brown family. The Wives may have entered into this arrangement by choice, but do they also have the choice to get out of it? This story sheds more light onto how this family makes Polygamy seem like a valid choice when it often puts women and Children in very difficult, inescapable conditions, even outside the compounds. This isn’t a story from someone involved in Polygamy in general, it’s the story of a woman who shared a husband with Kody’s Sister and was cut off from her kids for years. Her close connection to the Browns makes this all the more convincing. TMZ has a blurb about how Kody sought approval from local church leaders before doing the show. They essentially told him that they didn’t agree, but that it was up to him. His moved forward with the show and now the polygamist families are said to be scared of the repercussions. There have to be some Wives who are hopeful that things will change as a result. === The print article includes the claim that besides losing their children, the wives who choose to leave may be in more trouble.. Ultimate Penalty In extreme cases, claims Jane, the sect believes in "blood atonement" --- tracking down and killing the ex-wife for "adultery" if she flees the sect on her own. "I know of husbands in the sect who have said they would literally 'find and gut' their exes", she says. "In their doctrine, even if Christine and Janelle just wanted to leave Kody, not the sect, blood atonement could still apply. Bet obvioiusly, I don't know if Kody would hold them to it, as others have." Kody has already put his entire family in jeopardy by choosing to put them on TV in Sister Wives. They could face jail time now that Utah authorities have opened an investigation into their illegal lifestyle. "Janelle and Christine believe in their religion, but Kody has made it incredibly hard for them to be happy," says the family friend. "They've stuck it out --- because the alternative could be unthinkable.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 9:10 pm
I love the "family friends" that talk to these rags.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 10, 2010 - 9:24 pm
Yeah..not exactly friends.. but the family is huge so there could be many family snitches.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 3:04 am
How do these people get to live their lives outside the laws without prosecution?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:06 am
Apparently Kody and Robyn have already gotten married.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:07 am
Yep.. there are links to small articles stating that they got married. The actual ceremony wasn't in front of the cameras of TLC but it will be covered in the show.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 8:52 am
Next weeks episode claims it to be the season finale. That only makes it like 5 episodes. Weird that it's so short unless they purposely ended the season claiming it be the finale when there are probably more episodes recorded.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, October 11, 2010 - 6:13 pm
And they had two new eps last night.. maybe they are rushing it through because of the pending investigation?
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:41 am
By "outing " themselves this family has brought too much attention to themselves. My thinking is that they are slowing closing the door in light of the investigation. Otherwise this was too good of an opportunity for $$$ and the attention Kody seems to revel in. Obviously with a family this large they could always use more $$$ I cannot imagine the cost of health care, food and saving for college.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 3:54 am
I loved when Mary asked Kody how he'd feel if she were giving attention to two men. I think I can quote him closely: "The VULGARITY of your having a lover or two husbands makes me sick." Then he had the nerve to say that it made him feel selfish for having a double standard, that it made him look selfish or something. Ya think, Kody? Good grief!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:21 am
That scene really was painful to watch. He just strikes me as so smug and arrogant. It's okay for him to have four women to sleep with, but God forbid his wife should have more than one husband. It's just not "natural"!!! Jeez! How do these poor women get sucked into this? They're slaves/baby-makers.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 9:59 am
It was gratifying to see that he did seem to realize that he applies a complete double standard, refusing to even entertain the thought of his wives having more than one relationship. He is creepy to me, too, because he is just so darned self-centered. I was horrified that he seemed oblivious to his first wife's feelings about trying in vitro fertilization. Their daughter is 16 and Mary's been unable to get pregnant all this time--until three years ago when she had a miscarriage. The very idea that Kody would expect her to put herself emotionally and physically through the trauma of what would very likely be another miscarriage just tells me that he doesn't consider the women's feelings at all. In my opinion, if wife #1 deeply desired a second baby of her own to the extent that she was willing to undergo fertility treatments, she'd have already broached the subject with him. The fact that she hasn't tells me that she feels the risks would be too great. She has accepted that she will have the big family she always wanted by accepting sister-wives into her marriage. Kody is selfish--and not very smart, in my estimation, if he hasn't already figured that out for himself.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 2:54 pm
Sounds like this guy is on the wrong show. Seems he should be on the one called "Who the Bleep Did I Marry?" They usually include bigamists and technically he is a bigamist. How do the extra women file taxes...or do they?
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 4:41 pm
They haven't discussed those details on the show, Cricket, but I'd think they'd file "single," since legally they're single. The only one married in the eyes of the law is Meri, wife #1.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 12, 2010 - 7:09 pm
And as long as Kody is paying enough toward all the kids, he could claim them.. or perhaps he just claims enough of them to ensure he pays no tax and then the other moms claim the rest? Interesting at the hospital that the nurse merrily talked of how they see lots of polygamous families there..
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 6:18 am
I'm sure they do. From what I've read, there are parts of Utah that are full of polygamist groups. Quite common in some parts of the state.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 6:20 am
I think its Thurs that they will be on Oprah.Check online because Im not sure.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 6:44 am
Colorado City is in Arizona. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_City,_Arizona
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 8:01 am
I'm really surprised this show has not caused more of an uproar. But on the other hand, the increase in tv shows demonstrating brazen "immorality" (in the traditional sense) have really increased and people don't seem to mind, like with "Jersey Shore".
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, October 13, 2010 - 3:11 pm
I thought they lived in Lehi, Utah???
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