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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:21 pm
I haven't read a single post in which someone said that Bristol outdanced Brandy.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:28 pm
Bristol outdanced Brandy I couldn't resist.
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Shel
Member
07-27-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:28 pm
Perhaps next year the producers will make a rule stating no one may vote for any dancer who isn't the best. That'll fix ALL the problems. Or - Let the judges decide in week 1 who the winner will be then just let the others leave the show in alphabetical order. Gets rid of any possibility that people might vote for a lesser technical dancer but who makes watching them a joyful event.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:31 pm
Kyle is a lesser technical dancer who makes my watching a joyful event. I can't say the same thing about Ms. Palin. Actually, last night she depressed me.
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Nan
Member
09-25-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:32 pm
Shel, I think you may have hit the nail on the head....I think people enjoyed watching Bristol evolve and become more self confident...and dance better....to me , personally that may be worth voting for, rather than more experienced, and less challenged dancers.
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3grands
Member
05-04-2009
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:35 pm
i think the judges are very much to blame here too. they have over scored her every week. she is about a 6 score dancer. they should be ashamed. i don't think this show is supposed to be about improving every week. that should just be expected of a dancer each week. a child improves every day in school too.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:35 pm
It's not a vote for who dances better and it never has been a vote for who dances better. It's a vote for who people enjoy seeing dance and get further in the competition. If it was just for who is the best dancer then only the pros would be competing.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:39 pm
If people are voting for Bristol because her dancing made them feel joyful then I've got nothing against it. I'd think most people would feel the same way, particularly the nice folks here at tvch. If people who aren't fans of DWTS are voting for Bristol for some other reason, then I don't think it's fair, and it's just something I'd never dream of doing. It's like cheating at cards, only it's not even your cardgame.
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:42 pm
I am just going to say, this is such a sane nice place, just got back from the official web site for DWTS and Wow, there are some nasty crazy people out there. I am not surprised Brandy went, was she a better dancer than Kyle or Bristol, yes, was she as appealing, not to me. I never heard of the car accicent, it was just something about her that rubbed me the wrong way. Did I think she belonged in the top 3, if I am honest, yes.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:46 pm
I really doubt that, seems like her mom's tweets to all her followers encouraging them to vote for Bristol is what kept her in. Yes, she improved but not in the way Kyle improved. She really never belonged in this and I feel Brandy really got the shaft, underservedly so. So unfair imo. She really gave it her all and I feel bad for her and Maxs.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:47 pm
For the record, Brandy did not "cause" a fatal car crash...she was involved in one. There is a big difference.
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:52 pm
Is that the message board on abc.com you're talking about?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 8:59 pm
I'm not sure what about Bristol's dancing was joyful. At best, I think she became more competent. Of course, people have the right to vote for whomever they like, but this is after all, a show about *dancing.* I think it's normal for people to be unhappy with a result when someone who is a far superior dancer goes home over someone who is just, well, competent at best. And of course there is the question of how you achieve your fan following. If Bristol's votes are truly a result of her mother's following that doesn't seem quite right either. As I said, the judges seemed rather unhappy about it also, so perhaps they will put their foot down and change the structure of the voting to prevent this in the future. Or not. If the ratings are good, they may just go with it.
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Shel
Member
07-27-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:06 pm
Clarification -- when I said 'joyful' I wasn't necessarily talking about Bristol. I was making a reference to ALL of the seasons and the less-than perfect dancers who continued on in their season's beyond when people who weren't fans wanted them to be there.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:08 pm
I think that even Bristol feels a little out of place and really does not want to be there and probably wishes that she was voted off a long time ago. What a shame! It is only a mirror ball..that and 2 bucks will get you a cup of coffee. Exactly, Jag. I know she's trying hard, but she'd be fine with going. What's happening now is worse than her going tonight. I don't think this is Sarah Palin's fanbase voting. Someone posted there is a voter bot for 'vote for worst' for Bristol. Didn't they do that on AI a few years back? It's humiliating for Bristol if and when she finds out. I wish someone could stop these votebots. Why can't ABC route out these votebots and not count those votes? I called this last night and am mad I didn't see it because that darn glee runs one minute over, so I can't DVR DWTS until 8:01 and I always forget! Ugh!! This is a mess. Brandy and Jennifer are the best dancers. I don't see what everyone else sees in Kyle. I enjoyed Kurt Warner more. Kyle bounces like Tigger...hard to follow. Great kid...fantastic personality, but not a great dancer. For her sake, I do NOT want Bristol to win this. The backlash will be awful. Yes, Emmit did win over Mario and he shouldn't have, but they handled it well. Mario was awesome. I agree the judges MUST score correctly; however, I don't know what the point difference must be to ensure the right people are in the top. For instance, must they give Bristol 5's and the others 10's to equal the vote?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:13 pm
Keldog...I could have sworn she was the cause of it and it was cuz she was on her phone
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:13 pm
jezebel.com...cheating the dwts voting system
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:15 pm
I don't think Vote for the Worst has that much power toward the end. They seem to be able to keep people in longer (think Sanjay on AI), but at some point, towards the end, they don't have the voting strength. As far as I know, they do have protections to prevent vote bots. I like Kyle. Partly because he is the only one who has never whined once that I've seen about how grueling this is. That alone has made him uplifting to watch. And he always has so much fun with it, his attitude and his dancing make him entertaining to me. Even the judges have acknowledged that in the beginning he couldn't get the footwork down, but he just worked harder and harder till he got it. To me, that's a champion.
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Pixieduster
Member
09-27-2004
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:16 pm
I am disappointed that Brandy and Maks were eliminated tonight. I put all my votes in for them as I had a feeling this would happen. I think the judges scored Bristol and Mark's dances last night too high. I think Maks' comments about the judges not doing their job last week played out in the scoring this week. The Paso definitely was not worth three 9's. Has Brisol improved - definitely. Do the fans have a right vote for who they like best - absolutely. Is this a competition for who's the best dancer - no way. And is it fair for me to say that I think the wrong people went home tonight - you're darn right it is. I'm sad because the mirror ball trophy seems a bit cracked and tarnished now. So I'll watch next week but not with as much joy...and I'll get over it and come back for next season.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:16 pm
Pamy, no criminal charges were ever filed, The police said they had no evidence that she was distracted or under the influence and couldn't get a conviction, She did settle with the family out of court, on their wrongful death suits.
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Alliet
Member
07-11-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:22 pm
I doubt anyone even give a toss about VFTW anymore so this bot thing is way out there, IMO. Anyway, I LOVE Maks. I would love to see him win (I think he had a super partner in Mel B). I wasn't bothered by Brandy till she started to harp on (every week a la Jennifer) about how SHE deserved this because SHE put in so many hrs in the studio (as if the others didn't). No sorry to see her go, to be honest. Still would have preferred to see Maks there instead of Derek (obviously).
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:24 pm
That Jezebel article is interesting. Thanks Dovez. I wonder if abc.com will fix it before next week - doubtful, I think. Again, I've no problem with dwts fans/watchers voting for whomever they please, for whatever reason they please, but it's frustrating if people who don't even watch are gaming the system for their own agenda.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:25 pm
Car A was hit in the back by Car B, causing them both to stop suddenly. Car C (Brandy) then ran into the back of Car B. When she hit Car B, Car B slid sideways and was then hit by a fourth car. The driver of Car B was the person who was killed.
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Jennywa
Member
07-17-2003
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:26 pm
Thanks for sharing that website, Dovez. I have also heard of it and also some of Palin's followers are bragging about voting over 900 times! I really don't understand this way of thinking. I used to like DWTS for the dancing. If they don't fix this glitch, I will no longer watch!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 16, 2010 - 9:29 pm
Well for WEEKS there have been snide remarks and the judges suddenly were ramping up Brandy's scores, so it was pretty clear who the judges wanted people to vote for, but they only get to make their own votes from every phone they own. I thought someone posted who WAS following Sarah and TP on Twitter and said there had been no tweets asking for votes. Maybe that changed.. don't know. I don't follow those entities and actually haven't accessed twitter in ages though now and then someone starts following me so I know I'm still "there". Well, yeah, ratings are king for shows like this. Don't have a clue what the ratings have been like. As for fairness or looking only at performance.. I guess Audrina would have a beef with any of them still being there since she may have outdanced them all at some point, but she is long gone. You have to have a fanbase. I wouldn't suspect that the same people were choosing to vote for Bristol INSTEAD of Brandy and wouldn't have thought Brandy's fanbase would have been lured into voting for Bristol. And I do think even right through tonight, Brandy seemed convinced that no one had worked harder or wanted the trophy more or deserved it more.. and that probably didn't bring in some of those votes. I actually have enjoyed watching Bristol learn and have loved watching Kyle become a dancer, though I'm amazed that he hasn't noticeably slimmed down with all his work.. but heck, other than not standing very erect, or hunching shoulders sometimes, he's really got dance TALENT! As the final four all said at the beginning of the show, and it would be so sweet if they all meant it and could believe it.. they've all had an amazing experience and learned a bunch and grown a bunch (and gotten so much publicity) that they are all winners. I mean there is no actual money prize, just a rather tacky, jokey trophy.
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