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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 3:34 pm
And that is why you aren't a judge.. they don't just pick favorites, but actually view the evidence. (and even juries, though there are some who go ahead and get on juries and try to enforce their opinions.. seen that a few times, but usually the majority prevails. Hard working doesn't mean you are perfect or might not have broken some contract. But we don't really know anyway. And big corporations actually can be right.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 4:10 pm
I'm on a discussion board DISCUSSING...not in a court of law!!! And in this discussion forum, I can pick my favorites and who I want to side with. I'm sticking with the Captains and crew. I care about them, NOT Discovery or Discovery's lawyers. This is just MY opinion, how how can that be wrong???
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 4:31 pm
You can pick your side, but it might be the wrong side morally, because you don't have all the facts. We have no idea WHY the captains pulled out. No one is saying. Frankly, I think if the captains hadn't done something embarrassing, they would be saying what it was. But oddly enough, they won't comment. And Discovery is simply stating their legal case, the guys did not meet their contractual obligation (which they did not quite apparently). So, yeah, you can take their side 'cause you like them. Nothing wrong with that. But *personally* I'm just more cautious about taking sides without knowing all the facts.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 6:31 pm
Just discussing too.. and since you were making a case and your points were that these people are hard working and thus must be in the right and the other side is a large corporation and thus must be wrong, my counter still is.. I don't think you've made a case since, unless you've uncovered some actual evidence and are not sharing, there is nothing known. And even if one party starts talking, we still don't know what was signed and what the suit is about for sure.. well we may know what it is about .. I'd say contracts. Someone signed on the dotted line and perhaps they changed their mind and expect it all to go away? Who knows. Someone else signed and probably didn't have approval rights on the product.. meaning the last season of Deadliest Catch and wasn't happy that they weren't included or their fire wasn't included. Meanwhile popularity has soared, heads perhaps have swelled (sheer speculation and some observation) and that contract maybe doesn't look so good. But they all have the right not to sign the NEXT contract, for sure. And yep, Sig has mentioned going on DWTS and I'd think, IF his contract allows for that or if he waits until he's no longer under that contract, that DWTS would choose him. Or one of the other guys who did dance pretty well I'd love to see that!
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Landileigh
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, September 29, 2010 - 10:18 pm
not having the Hillstrands or the Hansens has no outcome on the running of the F/V Cornelia Marie. There are many licensed captains available for hire. Josh and Jake Harris are partial owners of the vehicle along with the namesake Cornelia Marie Devlin. Jim Wilson has taken the helm of the Cornelia Marie for their 2010 spring and summer tendering contracts. He was among those being considered to run the boat for the rest of the 2010 opilio crab season before Derrick Ray was selected. The current plans are for Cornelia Marie to only participate in the 2010 King Crab season. During that time, half of Phil Harris' ashes will be spread in the Bering Sea. The ship will then forego the 2011 opilio crab season in favor of entering drydock for an overhaul. It is unknown who will captain Cornelia Marie for crabbing in 2010-11. Jake and Josh Harris have signed contracts for the 2010/2011 crabbing season with Discovery to show THEM on whichever boat they are on, not specifically the F/V Cornelia Marie. during the time that they were not crabbing, I know that Jake Harris was up fishing in Alaska for another boat during salmon season.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 5:01 am
Here are my thoughts... scrambled that they be: - Discovery Corporation is there to make a profit, otherwise it would be PBS. - Discovery is the Corporation that created the "fame" for each of the captains and crew. If not for Discovery we wouldn't know any of them to care for them over Discovery. - Discovery has every right to demand that Andy and Jonathan finish what they were contracted to do. They don't have to do it well, just finish it. I don't think the captains would like it if they showed up with a boat of crab and the cannery people decided they would rather not finish the contract or postpone it to a later date. The captains would not appreciate losing time and money and crab just as Discovery (no matter how huge they are) does not want to waste it's time, money and crew. As much as I love the captains, the crew and the show I think Jon and Andy should put on their big-boy panties and finish up the contract. They don't have to sign up for anything else, just finish what they were contracted to do. And if Discovery were in the wrong regarding the "Hillstranded" show. If they did something to make cheat the brothers or make them unhappy, I think we would have heard about it by now. As we all know, they are very vocal. Their very silence makes me think they were in the wrong.
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Jrsbus
Member
01-16-2006
| Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 7:50 am
Here are my thought's as straight forward as they can be. Don't know Don't care lets get through it and back to a good show we all look forward too. If they are looking for solutions I have a few ideas below. 1. Jeff Probts could do a tribal council! 2 We could have have Simon Cowell break down both sides and ammerica could vote. 3 Big brother I vote to evict? of course this takes place after 30 days in same room together. 4. We could have a cook off and have Gordon Ramsey tell one of the to F%$#k off. 5 We could have heads of discovery go undercover boss on the boats. 6 Donald Trump mediate listen to both sides and "Your Fired" one of them. 7 Make them Watch "real housewifes" marathon until one of them cracks. Or my personal Fav drop the all the shows on Discovery and make 24/7 Mike Rowe all the time.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 8:38 am
I vote for the Mike Rowe option.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 12:14 pm
If they don't get those 3 back on board, this show is OVER! Sad, but then again I think we have seen all there is to see with this series.
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2010 - 7:42 pm
Great ideas, Jrsbus!! I vote for Mike Rowe, too. I just want him to read books to be all day long. Do you think he'd volunteer to come to my house and just read to me? I love his voice--and he cracks me up!
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Landileigh
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, October 04, 2010 - 4:49 pm
from www.corneliamarie.com the official website of the F/V Cornelia Marie on 10/04/10 by Morgan Howard: My mother, Cornelia Devlin and our crew flew to Kodiak, Alaska on Saturday. The FV Cornelia Marie is tied up in Kodiak, our home port since the boat was built. The crew has been repairing the boat in preparation to go King Crab fishing. This year’s crew is the same one you saw during the last couple episodes of season six. Derrick Ray is the skipper, Steve Ward is the Engineer and Josh Harris, Jake Harris, Ryan Simpson and Freddie Maughtai are the deckhands. Captain Derrick is eager to get to Dutch Harbor and may pull out of Kodiak this evening. We have a tremendous amount of work before King Crab season opens on October 15th. There was serious doubts as to whether the FV Cornelia Marie would be able to continue fishing. Our boat and crew has faced many challenges this year. After the death of our skipper, our collective families were in a tailspin. Captain Phil was more than just a skipper. He was part owner and responsible for everything having to do with the boat. He has left a void which has not been filled. But, his sons Jake and Josh have vowed to keep the FV Cornelia Marie fishing. One thing that hasn’t changed since the beginning is the support we receive from fans of the FV Cornelia Marie. We all thank you so much for your kindness. I will continue to update you on our progress.
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Jrsbus
Member
01-16-2006
| Monday, October 04, 2010 - 4:51 pm
http://press.discovery.com/us/dsc/press-releases/2010/fv-cornelia-marie-sets-course-discoverys-deadl-916/#mkcpgn=fbdsc8 Cornilia Maria to be on next season
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:32 pm
Deal was made. The guys are back on the show. http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/08/deadliest-catch-sig-hansen-johnathan-hilstrand-andy-hillstrand/
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:39 pm
That's fantastic news Heriam! Thanks for the post!!
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:23 pm
Thanks for the link. Wow, I wondered why Sid quit and now I know. That is a stand-up guy. I wonder though if the Hillstrands would have done the same thing if it was Hansen that had the issues.
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Konamouse
Member
07-15-2001
| Friday, October 08, 2010 - 7:31 pm
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand October 8, 2010 Statement Released from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand: "We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet." The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Friday, October 08, 2010 - 10:33 pm
I love Sig (love Edgar even more!!) and am glad to see him stay on the show--except that I feel sorry for Sig's family, who would certainly love to have him home. The long separations have to be very difficult for the entire family--not to mention the uncertainty of sending their men out on the unforgiving Bering Sea.
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