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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 6:38 am
I do not like Melissa, but I do believe her -- maybe. I was thinking possibley she misunderstood something about how she should be eating and therefore the low weight loss.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 6:51 am
Although I really don't like Melissa, I also didn't care for Miggy and Migdalia (sorry if I spelled that wrong). I don't think they were "getting it" either - it was definitely us against the world kind of attitude and I think that is destructive towards their ultimate goals of being healthy. Having said that I would have kept Migdalia in the house because I thought she needed it more and once out from under her mother's influence might have gotten more out of the experience.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 8:09 am
I agree, Migdalia will not maintain any success she has during the process. Without the pressure/reward potential she would not have continued her journey....I fear for her long term success. It would not have mattered if Miggy had been eliminated, cause Migdalia would have left on her own in anger. Both of them are too angry right now. This is not a good time for them. I love the Samoan brothers right now. What great attitudes.

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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 8:20 am
I like Koli and Sam but I wish they would tend more to their own business and less to everyone elses. Looking forward to who comes back next week. Should really shake up the house dynamic.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 8:41 am
I was really happy for how well all the "singles" did at the weigh in.
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Fiat
Member
10-07-2004
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 9:24 am
Kona and Color, I agree that I kind of/almost believe Melissa. There IS a shadow of a doubt. There was young woman a few seasons ago who was losing very little, and it turned out she had polycystic something, if I recall. I wish that Jillian and Bob has said "Ok, lets go over what you did with a fine tooth comb. What exactly did you eat? How many calories did you burn? How much water did you drink?" to see if there is some cause of the low weight loss those weeks. Melissa is not nearly as annoying to me as Vicki and Heba were, so I HOPE she is telling the truth. I agree that Migdahlia is going to have trouble maintaining her loss, let alone losing more. So sad to see that much anger in her and her mother. Maybe seeing themselves portrayed on the show will spark a change?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:20 am
It'll probably just p*ss them off.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:46 am
If Melissa is lying then she is very good at it. Migdahlia and her mom seem to have the attitude that everyone is against them which is a big turn off to me. I don't like the way Melissa is with her husband but she is a tough lady. no favs for me yet
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 10:50 am
Like Jillian said, I think Melissa had a good weigh in this week because of the 'immunity game-playing call-out' the last 2 weeks. I liked Jillian's "under the breath" comment about peer pressure causing her to have a good week. So, who do you think has the undiagnosed health issue next week? I think either the Brown team guy or the Black Team father. We saw the Pinks and Greys in the promo, so it can't be them.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 11:45 am
I'm pretty sure I saw the black in the promo and I thought I saw the brown...I'm thinking Michael (white). The only other male is (I think) orange and with his relative youth I doubt it is him. It could be one of the other teams that is coming back next week?
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 1:54 pm
I'm with the group that believes Melissa is lying. She is also playing the game big time, and she is able to manipulate and push other people's buttons. It's legal, it's within the rules, so it's fair. I don't have to like it though, nor do the other team members. Her behavior may end up getting her kicked out by those not in her alliance...they are still in the majority right now.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 1:58 pm
What is so mysterious and disconcerting is they said there was no previous history. I've been saying for a long time now one of these people is going to get hurt because they push too hard too fast. But no history? I would think most of these people would show signs of heart disease and I would also think the physicals would be thorough enough to pick these things up. They didn't really say what it was did they? I mean it could be something like an asthma attack right?
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 2:03 pm
I can't make up my mind about Melissa. I do acknowledge her huge first week loss. That could have turned her metabolism upside down. Plus she has a lot less to lose than some of the others. I think time and again, the science of weight loss has been shown to be not a one size fits all. I am surprised that Jillian didn't at least concede that. I also find it interesting that she insists on 3 squares a day and a snack while Dr. Oz says 3 small meals and 3 snacks. Hmmmm. But as for Melissa, there is just something about her. I think she is accustomed to get her way in all things. She comes across as spoiled and entitled. I just can't like her and that was before this bruhaha over the two weeks without losing.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 5:03 pm
ditto to what Gidget wrote. I kind of think with Melissa it was a combo of messed up metabolism and game play. IMO that's why she was sooooo serious about not throwing the weigh ins because in her own mind, she didn't - she just wanted to leave a little guarantee for the following wk when she may not have immunity. She may not have needed to do anything if her metabolism was really messed up. I do dislike the green team Mom more though.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 27, 2010 - 5:19 pm
If Melissa didn't get that shit eating grin whenshe doesnt lose or she gains and didn't insert herself into Alli's job and didn't bait people who are obviously right on the edge, I guess I'd care more if she is lying or not. She may also have lied about what she did to lose so much the first "week" (I thought in the past we had known that it really isn't just a week, but, just presented that way? Anyway, I don't like her affect and the way she interacts with others, including her husband, so I'm not inclined to really care all that much.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 7:29 am
I am grey team all the way, those guys are amazing!!!! Melissa doesn't bother me.. they are good competitors, they came very close to winning that phone challenge and there is a reason they are doing so well. And Melissa is smart to decide to train with Jillian even with their differences rather than her husband's brilliant idea of just training with Bob, she's got her eye on the prize! Good riddance to Migdalia, what an attitude! Although I do blame the mother, all that "don't cry" crap is ridiculous... Jillian is totally right about that...
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 8:07 am
The problem is Jillian, not Migdalia. Jillian is not a psychologist. I do not understand why anyone would discuss personal issues on national television. The way her mother spoke to her about "not letting them see you cry" tells us that she was raised to keep private things private. Jillian had no right to push when for all she knows the issues might be much too private to discuss with a stranger. Further, their approach to Melissa was all wrong too. Instead of calling her a liar on national television, they should have gone over the numbers with her. You ate this and expended this many calories. Then asked her how she could possibly have not lost weight if she has been honest with them. Of course she's playing the game but both Jillian and Bob seemed more concerned that she was lying to them than that she wasn't doing what she needs to do to at least lose a little weight.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 8:38 am
The whole M/M scenario is bizarre. Who, in their right mind, would swan off to a reality show when their spouse was due to be deployed? On top of it all, when M's husban would be deployed, neither Mom nor Grandma would be around for the kids. What were the M's thinking, and what were the producers thinking? Hmmm--drama...
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 10:04 am
This isn't real life though - this is a reality show. But as far as the greens go - a lot of times people eat as opposed to feeling things and I think that's what Jillian was trying to get through to her. People who want privacy shouldn't go on a nationally broadcast television show.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, January 28, 2010 - 9:25 pm
People who want privacy shouldn't go on a nationally broadcast television show For sure!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, January 29, 2010 - 5:55 pm
I certainly can't blame JILLIAN for Miggy and Migdalia's lifetime of eating, gaining and carrying large chips on their shoulders! And she figured them out quickly. Jillian and Bob are tired of people lying about sandbagging when they feel safe. And I suspect quite tired of the producers pulling all sorts of stunts that compromise the actual work needed to somewhat safely lose the weight. I know Jillian is really happy that her new show gives her the control over such things. We also only saw the parts of what Jillian said to M/M that the producers wanted to show for maximum effect. I'm on the Grey team train too!! But If the all woman team returns I may have to be on their train.. really like them. I like the other team that went out right away, but not fond of the dad's (husband's?) trash talking about the other team so much. And I'll still like Grey team unless they surprise me and change.
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Jasper
Moderator
09-14-2000
| Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 11:32 am
I am disinclined to believe Melissa but only because it was so conveniently a week they were immune the first time. The second time it was if she thought Lance had done enough. This week I beleive Lance threw it, 6lbs? big guy like that? They should have just shrugged it off the first "0" and said you do what you gotta do. I will say with my own weightloss journey there were a number of weeks when I only lost a pound, thinking I was doing everything right, but then again I am not exercising 5 hours or more a day, God forbid! Melissa did seem to huff and puff a lot about being called a liar and how her life hinged on being ethical. Jillian called it with her weight loss this week though and we don't really have any idea what may have also been said by Jill and Bob to her about eating etc. that may have been edited out. Oh to be a fly on the wall.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 2:22 pm
Bob and Jillian could have used better approaches to both problem teams. Demanding personal information from a person who holds everything in just makes them hold tighter. Calling a lawyer a liar on national television forces her to deny. A joking approach might have worked better. Of course they were right, but they both seemed much more upset that she lied to THEM than they were that she hadn't lost any weight.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 3:24 pm
I think that is because lying to them and herself is more of a problem than just having a bad week. They have such a limited time with these people and I'm sure they think that gameplay that is so obvious may get her kicked out before she can get insight and knowledge to deal with things out in the real world.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-28-2004
| Saturday, January 30, 2010 - 9:11 pm
"Hey Bob...Jillian...y'all got a minute? Look, I prolly lost 10 pounds this week, but I'm gonna drink 6 pounds worth of water...just so you know when I get on the scale. Yeah...look I know my husband has lost enough to keep us in it. Nah...nobody will even suspect cause you remember I lost little last week...oh and I'm gonna make a joke about eating a cheeseburger...look just laugh and don't do anything like call me a liar or tell me I'm fulla shit...ok" I finally got caught up on this season.
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