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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, May 12, 2010 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Gia is a huge ham already, and that ain't gonna hurt her none!! :-)

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
To me there is a BIG difference. Danielle's daughter is legitimatey STUNNING and has a face I can see in high fashion. I think she has a real shot.

Gia is a spoiled little girl, being raised with entitlement issues. She really isn't especially pretty and would cast more for character kid parts. I doubt many in the industry would tolerate her Mother's attitude. I only see her being used if someone wants/needs the publicity that comes from some airtime on this show.

I actually worry for Teresa's kids, as they are being raised to feel they are beyond special and are entitled to everything just for being. At some point that is going to hit them all hard in their faces.

Costa, keep in mind most working models aren't the big names we know. They do catalog and industry work, regional commercials etc. A good (and very good looking) friend of mine has made more at modeling then his regular full time job. If you were to Google him you wouldn't find his name associated with any modeling jobs. But I could quote hundreds of big name companies he modeled for and thousands of jobs he's had modeling over the years. Bottom line, most working models aren't famous for it.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Lurk, I used to model. I know the modeling industry. Just sayin'...

Sia
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03-10-2002

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 4:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
I think Danielle's older daughter is visually very pretty, but she has an attitude that I dislike. She seems snarky and critical--but that doesn't surprise me, given the things I've heard Danielle say on the show in front of both her girls.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Couldn't have said it better Lurk...

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Sia, no argument from me on that front. Maybe her upcoming humiliation of barfing on that public runway, and TV, will take her down a few pegs. Might not be a bad thing all in all.

One thing I found so sad in her potential modeling success was how thrilled Danielle was to be push her so she could then walk through the doors it would open with her.

The more I watch these folks parent on TV, the more grateful I feel for the parents I was blessed with!

Thanks Chit

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
If I had to pick between Gia and Christine, and choose who'd be more successful, at this point I'd pick Gia. Only because her mother isn't doing what Christine's mother is doing. Christine will be banned from runways if her mother continues to act like she did during the shoot with Bensimone. Teresa, OTOH, has clearly stated that Gia is in this because it's fun for her and it's something she wants to do. If/when Gia is done with modeling, I don't see Teresa pushing her to continue. I don't see that same attitude with Danielle. I think Danielle will push and push Christine, and at some point Christine will rebel.

I dunno if Christine hurls on the runway or backstage (it was hard to tell from the promo I saw), but there could be many reasons for it and not the least of which are nerves. She is very young and untrained, and to be thrust into a show like that so quickly could only cause additional stress. I also didn't really get the idea that Christine wanted to be a model. It just fell into her lap. To succeed in that industry you have to want it, really REALLY want it. Danielle's really REALLY wanting it is not gonna be enough.

Gia is a cute little girl. She has potential to grow up to be a stunning young woman. It remains to be seen if she grows up with a serious attitude. I kind of doubt it, because there are too many grounded people in the Manzo clan. Yes, she's spoiled (as are the other little girls). But I haven't seen anything to indicate that she'd throw a tantrum if she didn't get her way.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
When all is said and done Theresa genuinely loves being a mother and she loves her children. Yes she dotes on them, spoils them etc. But they are grounded in her love. There is a confidence in her children that seems to be lacking in Danielles. Danielles children just do not seem to smile very much. I truly hope that Danielle isn't looking to her daughter to be her meal ticket.
I really hope that Christine doesn't get sick on the show next week. I don't want to see her embarrassed. I also don't want to see any child suffer humiliation to be knocked down a peg or so. Just hope it works out for her.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Costa, did you happen to see the show last year when Gia was in, hmmm, think it was a pagent, might have been a show, and Teresa proudly told the cameras that she is SO not a stage Mom. She then sat there being a living, breathing dictionary version of a stage Mom. LOLOL. So...just sayin'....

And trust me, I don't want to see that young girl be humiliated OR taken down a notch either. BUT I mentioned it as a possible positive lesson she might learn, just based on how the promo's looked (and we all know that promo's may not always be as clear as they seem). I truly think she has the face and body and youth to honestly be a major model. And I'm sure those in the industry know how to deal with mothers like Danielle. It just may not be pretty, but at the end of the day, she do what her daughters agent insists on. That's what my money's on.

Those are some industry heavy hitters that sought out her daughter. Let's not forget that. I think that's the main reason she has so much more of a shot at success. Gia and Teresa are going after it, whereas those power players came to Danielle's daughter! Big difference IMHO.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Being a good mother doesn't make your child a model or a star. It takes good genes and a good manager to do that. Theresa might be the best mother on the planet, but doesn't guaranteee Gia a star on the walk of fame. Now Danielle's daughter has the gene's to make her a great model and she has the face and body to be a great model, even if Danielle isn't the greatest mother.

Sia
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03-10-2002

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Danielle's behavior shocked/saddened me when she told her daughters about her "luncheon" which was supposed to honor/announce Christine's big break. Then she proceeded to tell the girls that it was all about HER and that Christine wasn't going to be part of it--not even be present. And at the luncheon, Danielle actually made a toast: "Here's to our children's successes, and OUR being along for the ride."

If that's not her stating boldly that she intends to live off her daughter's income as a model, I will eat my hat. Danielle just wants to ride Christine's coattails.

I also found it surprising that a photo of Danielle with Christine was included in the five-page spread in the magazine. Yikes, as if Danielle doesn't already think highly of herself.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Friday, May 14, 2010 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
I don't know that Teresa is driven to make her child a star. I think she is indulging her. Honestly I don't know. I hope that Danielle isn't looking to her daughter for cash flow. That would make me sick.
Lurk I agree with you in that Danielles daughter is a natural beauty with that certain look that reminds me of top models. It is always fascinating to me how lighting and makeup/hair transforms these girls into stunning women. I am glad none of the photos were provacative.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
It really saddened my on last week's show when Danielle was going over the guest list for HER party (not really Christine's) and Christine piped up with, "Not Caroline; you don't want to waste your time on her."

Hmmmm...so many things to read into that. Has Christine turned negative like her mother or did Christine not want her mother to be turned down by Caroline? Or... is it that Christine believes every word her mother says and really thinks Caroline is vile? It was just a snippet of what Danielle has done to this child. She's such a beautiful girl, but I agree with Costa that if her mother is always on her shoots; she won't be able to go far. So sad.

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Cricket someone posted above that people in the industry know how to handle mom's like Danielle. I truly hope so.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2010 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
That was me Olivia, and I have have no doubt they do. Ultimately it may end up helping Danielle's relationship with her daughter, since someone else may lay down some much needed boundaries. And that would never happen otherwise.

And given the potential I feel her daughter has, Danielle will IMHO listen because she won't risk losing the shot at having a supermodel daughter lol

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
People in the industry may "know how to handle" mothers like Danielle, but they may not WANT to. I didn't see anything really unique about Christine. She's very pretty, but she's not very tall. I don't see Christine making it big in the industry with Danielle around. Maybe when she turns 18 and no longer needs a chaperone. There's a point at which people no longer want to deal with mothers like Danielle.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Sunday, May 16, 2010 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Confession............
The only show worse than these HW'S is the VH1 offering "Basketball Wives". A bunch of gold diggers literally looking for men to take care of them and then stabbing one another in the back. Watching this crap reminds me that I have flowers to plants and sooooooo many books to read.And there is there a walk in closet that really needs my attention.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I honestly don't know how they can bring Danielle back for another season when none of these HW want anything to do with her and refuse to go to any events involving her.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 9:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I don't understand what Gina is wanting to do. Why would she listen to her zen lady over her family? Isn't that what got Jacqueline in trouble?

Why face Danielle to tell her to stop calling/messaging? Just e-mail her. You can tell Dina does not want to see this woman. I'm more like Caroline. If I don't like someone; I don't talk to them or send mixed messages. In this case, I think the zen lady doesn't realize how much Danielle would savor such an incident and how much damage it may do to Dina.

Unless of course, this is all being produced for the show's drama.

Jacqueline needs to go the same route and not send flowers to Danielle's daughter. It may seem like the classy thing to do, but it encourages a friendship with Danielle.

Caroline and Teresa know how to set their boundaries. Dina and Jacqueline need to learn from them.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
It's all for show IMHO. How can you have one housewife on who has NO interaction w/the other housewives. So that's what the face to face idea is about in my estimation. Same way the other ladies are constantly discussing Danielle at their "casual get-togethers." It's so staged it's absurd, and truthfully I'm soooo over it. All they are doing is repeating the same stuff about Danielle over and over. Why? It's not drama, it's a re-run!

Anyway, I don't think for one minute that there would be these phone calls, the flower sending or anything if there weren't cameras following them around. I wish they would just add another HW or 2 for Danielle to socialize with or write her off. Instead they keep forcing this old fued down our throats, all for the drama of it all. YAWN!!

As for Danielle's daughter, for IMG to be representing her, they clearly see a HUGE potential. They only represent A list clients, and they don't need the PR value of this little show. So I have NO doubt they will see handling Danielle as the price of doing business with someone they know can earn them huge bux and be very successful. I'm also certain we are making more of a to-do over it then they are. How does a company that size "handle" a troublesome stage Mom? They sit her down, give her boundaries and let her know she adheres to them or her kid is out the door. It's as simple as that!

And btw, how messed up is Gia going to be? Her Mom endlessly spoils her and tells her how perfect she is. Her Dad is the total opposite, being cruel in what he says to her. I think he may be trying to undo some of the spoiling, but it doesn't work that way. But there she is saying proudly how she is too pretty to ever work. Oh yeah, she has all the potential to grow up to be Paris Hilton without the name or money. SCARY!

PS Costa, Christine was over 6' in the heels they said, and she appeared to be roughly the same height as all the other models.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
They said last night that Christine was 5'10" without shoes.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Oops, the first line in my post should have said, "Dina" not "Gina."

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, May 18, 2010 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Again, I see nothing special about Christine. She's not even that tall. She's a pretty girl, but pretty girls are a dime a dozen. So let's agree to disagree because I really don't see Christine making huge bucks as a model if her mother is hanging around.

Resortgirl
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09-23-2000

Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 1:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Resortgirl a private message Print Post    
Diane, i'm so sorry. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Jason! love you

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 19, 2010 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
She may not be an Amazon, but I think Christine definitely is in the "tall enough" range, esp with heels. As I said, if you look at her in the line she is no shorter than anyone there and seemed to fit in.

As for her look, I think she has a combo of natural beauty and being just plain enough (so makeup can really impact her look) that designers adore. But hey, who cares what I think. IMG went to HER! We're talking the biggest agency in the world, probably with the most star power. I know people (all of whom would be very well known names) who couldn't get in the door with them. I think that alone says her potential. And to me she looks like a young Christie Brinkley, who did pretty well for herself.

My biggest concern is she already has a very standoffish attitude, so not sure early success will serve her well in life. Did you see how she argued that her younger sister isn't as pretty and doesn't look like her and was absolutely FURIOUS when the sis said how she has freckles too and just covers them w/makeup. It wasn't cut sibling fighting IMHO...it was superiority. Hope it goes better than I fear. I wonder if their Dad has any real role in their lives and what he is actually like?

But Costa I'm fine w/agreeing to disagree. Time will tell and we'll get to see how it really goes lol.

PS Resortgirl...???? I am totally confused by your post and feel I must have missed something.