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Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Apparently the investigation has been completed, but it will be a few months before they decide whether to file charges:

http://theclicker.todayshow.com/_news/2010/10/06/5242954-it-could-take-months-to-decide-if-sister-wives-face-charges

I would think the focus of the investigation would be whether the children are living in any kind of danger or whether any fraud is taking place (ie welfare). I would be really surprised if any kind of charges were filed.

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
We've all shared a home for 18 years, and we did buy a house 14 years ago. We all have rooms of our own and share the duties like any married people. I manage the money, I'm good at it. M does most maintenance, he's good at that. S does most of the cooking, he enjoys that. We have no children besides my son from a first brief marriage, he grew up with stepdad M and a decade later S joined us and he adapted to that easily. This isn't a lifestyle any of us went looking for, it just sort of happened. It was up to all 3 of us to channel it into harmony and create a solid foundation for a shared future.
Most people have jealousy issues, Kody's wives seem to know they must deal with his new choices. Similar to Big Love, the emotions of a changing dynamic are the focus. The many kids are another important concern. I sensed not all of the women are comfy in their own skins but that is exactly what it takes with polygamy. Having seen both Big Love and Sister Wives, my husbands laugh at Bill and Kody. If 1 wife is this much work, why keep looking?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think having lots of babies is part of their program similar to the Duggars (I know they aint polygamists) but they are machines when it comes to spitting out the new generation to carry on their chosen religious beliefs. BTW I love the Duggars!!! and would have loved to raised by them.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Thanks Rivere for sharing your story.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I would never want to have been raised by the Duggars, but Michelle could read me a bedtime story anytime. I love her soothing voice, lol

Konamouse
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07-15-2001

Wednesday, October 06, 2010 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Wife #4 was moved into her own home, but close to the big house (no longer 5 hours away).

Riviere - you go girl! I'd love to have your arrangement.


Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I watched for the first time last night and I agree that Kody is smarmy and very self-satisfied. Crying to one wife because he's "lovesick" about this girl...GIVE ME A BREAK! This all seems like an excuse for Kody not to grow up and be a man and make responsible choices.

And if those women are all so happy why are two out of the 3 of them obese? I realize one is pregnant but I'm guessing she's a pretty big girl in the first place, and the other one is just...well...large.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
Both Kody and the new wife to be have both stated separately that they are basically outing themselves as polygamists to the outside world by doing this show. (which leaves me to believe that wife 4 was either raised in a poly. family or her first marriage was poly.?). Obviously, these adults have thought it through and decided that it would be liberating for them to display their chosen lifestyle in the public eye, or that the income generated by signing a contract with TLC is worth the public scrutiny, either way, it was their decision.
My issue is that by doing this show they've also outed all of their children. I'm sure they had family discussions prior to agreeing to the show, at least with the older children, but when you tell your kids that it's going to make them celebrities and improve their financial situation does the average 14 to 17 year old really understand all of the ramifications? Do they forsee that people will be open to judging their family? Do they foresee that questions will be answered about their parents sex lives, what teenager even wants to know anything about their parents sex lives, never mind all of their friends, teachers and strangers watching them talk about their arrangement on TV? Do they foresee that they and everyone that knows them will watch their father on a date with a new woman? Do they forsee that everyone will see their mother sit with tears in her eyes saying that she feels uncomfortably jealous... Not to mention that all the younger children will have no understanding or choice about living their lives in the public eye.. The show won't last forever, but google and youtube will never die!
The adults in this marriage obviously have had the luxury of deciding who they will trust to let know about their lifestyle and who they will just tell that they are simply 3 sisters up until this point. They are taking that option away from their children.

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the explanation Rivere,your lifestyle seems like a reasonable arrangemnt and thats wonderful that its been successful for many yrs.

I mentioned upthread on the wives obesity too Roxip-I feel its because there is something missing in their lives. If the 4th wife was a poly in her previous marraige I wonder why she divorced and what happened to the other sister wives?

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Kellirippa, I think the family lives in a polygamist community. All the kids at school have multiple moms, so the kids aren't really being outed to anyone there.

Robyn said in her interviews that she was raised in a polygamist community, and that she and her husband were polygamists, although they hadn't married a second wife yet when they decided to divorce. She's apparently comfortable in a polygamist relationship, having grown up around it. I just think Kody's getting the best of this relationship and his wives are second class. He gets to marry as many women as he wants to and they just have to accept it. That seems really unfair to me. No wonder the one daughter has decided she's not going to live that way!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Do we know where these folks live? I haven't watched the show but read this thread faithfully!

Queenie
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07-09-2007

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Queenie a private message Print Post    
As far as I am concerned, they are all adults making their own decisions. Who are we to judge? Maybe the other wives are "bigger" because they don't exercise, and poor eating choices just like many of us?
It seems like they were all raised in this lifestyle and their kids go to a poly school, so they wouldn't be outing in their own community. I think I remember 4th wife say that her high school chums didn't know she was into a poly lifestyle. But again, she is an adult. The kids seem happy and well taken care of. They probably get more love than other unfortunate children.
Again, just my observations and opini}on.

Sia
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03-10-2002

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
I do have to wonder how much money families are offered monetarily when they sign on for reality series. Not being judgmental here, but when I caught a quick glimpse of a beaten-up dresser in one of Kody's wives living quarters, I had to wonder if they really need more income in order to sustain their growing family. I'm not judging because I have some worn-out furniture, too, and as long as I have housecats and kids my furniture will have to be shabby. Why buy brand new stuff for the kids and cats to shred?

Sia
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03-10-2002

Thursday, October 07, 2010 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Oh, and as for being overweight indicating unhappiness, I guess I'm proof of that: I'm huge and I'm miserable!

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 2:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
Lehi, Utah... Kody and Janelle (wife 2) were not raised in a polygamous culture. I'm not sure if Kody was even Mormon until his father adopted the fundamentalist side of that religion, when Kody was an adult. That may be why people view Kody's beliefs as rather insincere, a johnny come lately who offends the LDS policies about polygamy.
They probably get money for appearances and the show itself. Only Kody & Janelle have jobs, he's in advertising sales, no idea what she does. Robyn was moved to a house half a mile away from the Big House until they marry. No idea what the arrangements will be then. That's a small home for even 17 people to share, albeit the 3 wives have their own personal spaces.
The dating & jealousy episode irked me! Yes, I am a polygamist of sorts, but in fact any man such as Kody would detest the notion that women can do the same... Christine said that she was losing her best friend, and was afraid she would be replaced... Hmmm, it might have been the old pregnancy hormones talking, but I ached for her feeling that way! To me, commitment is a solemn promise and there's no such thing as replacing a spouse, legal or not, though in their world one man with 4 wives needs time management lessons! There's poor Christine, 3rd wife, pregnant after losing her last baby, and what's Kody doing? He's dating a 31 yo divorcee the wives refer to as his "trophy wife" and acting like a teenage boy... She couldn't have dreamed she'd be his last wife though. He began hunting a #4 years ago and there were at least 3 he wanted but they didn't work out... That shows me, he's marrying women for breeding more than being a soulmate? He almost looked like he was fighting back tears along with Christine, but salesmen can be great actors... He was so cold and uncaring, made me think of that movie Dangerous Liaisons when the Viscount repeated: It's beyond my control...
Only Robyn knows the status of her ex but if he feels outrage he's got grounds for a custody dispute. I'd imagine my ex seeing $$$ if I did something as dumb as moving 300 miles to become 4th wife of a polygamist! My ex was a deadbeat dad type who hoped my future husbands would just adopt our son, letting him off the hook. I can see him giving interviews to express his hurt & outrage while dragging me to court, he never did want custody though...
Hope all the Sister Wives feel Coming Out is worth it. They want society to see polygamy isn't worth being upset about. I can only now wonder if their situation will be just as happy as the past 16 years were. Kody is still young and while not attractive nor charismatic to me, what if a 21 yr old never married foxy Jane Doe catches his eye in 5 years...


Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the locale, Riviere! Your arrangement makes far more sense to me than multiple wives re population control. Of course, not everyone sees a wildly mutiplying population as an issue -

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Riviere, I agree that wife 4 is not the end of it. He could use his polygamous lifestyle to justify or as an excuse to dating other women. (looking for number 5)
I know this isn't true of all polygamists. He's just not a good example, IMO.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I do remember that Robyn said that she and her husband were part of a polygamous community when they were married but that "they" didn't take another wife.

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
Seems funny, how we all seem to see through the Kody agenda and can relate to his wives' angst. I understand it was Meri who introduced him to all the other wives. Guess she knew what he'd be up to later and wanted some say in the future wives she could connect to best... It's really no wonder Meri has jealousy issues, she's gone through it at least 6 times in 20 years... She is so smart going to college, hope she gets more self esteem and never ends up discarded...
I've been for population control since I was in high school and tasked to debate that very subject. Sadly, society hasn't learned a thing in 38 years... My grandma was #12 of 16 kids in her family and she hated it. They were so poor, hungry, developmentally malnourished, she passed her small bones and wobbly teeth down to me via my mother. Then all the food and gas shortages, statistics that wars are the result of too many male babies, etc... I won, but nothing changed, of course.
Yeah, I view Kody as a good father when he has time for all the kids. But he's not a very good husband. His wives & teenage daughters have lost respect for him which is why they joke he's acting like a teenager about a new fiancee, after not dating for 16 years... So sad, his 2 wives who bore the most kids got fat. But what did they expect besides more pregnancies? They were raised to shun makeup and anything too sexy and just obey their husbands. Unlike the women of Big Love, they don't realize after all the kids are born and the meals are great, men like slimmer appealing women to keep them turned on visually. That's just the lust factor even the monogamous husbands expect in a wife. Otherwise a younger cuter new woman is waiting to pounce?
Oh well, it's their life on TV and I'm very thankful it's not mine in the bullseye...

Debra
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11-20-2003

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
Click here for "Sister Wives" Sneak Peek: Wife #3 Gives Birth!

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Friday, October 08, 2010 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
They are going to be on Oprah-they were filming in Chicago this week at The Harpo Studios.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
He claims he hasn't dated, but weren't there other attempts to get married? So I wonder what he thinks is the definition of dating..

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I guess it's not supposed to include kissing!

This show may be creepy, but it's so much fun to talk about here!

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
Kody's definition of dating would be opposite of ours. A wife remarked 4 months was a long time between meeting a woman and having the ceremony, while to me that's too brief a courtship. The fundamentalist unions are usually prearranged so when Kody decided to find a 4th wife that really was the beginning. All he had to do was find a woman willing to join his family. Most people meet, date, see if love develops, and finally make a decision to marry or not. That's why Kody really did not date between marriage 3 and locating future wife 4. His other attempts to find a suitable woman failed because there was not a leisurely courtship phase. Instead, the candidates were deemed unsuitable immediately for reasons only Kody & his wives know... That isn't logical to me either but that's the basic formula they follow. Big Love Bill chose to date Ana before proposing marriage, which is why his 3 wives were surprised. Or perhaps there was an unspoken understanding Bill would keep marrying that was never shown to viewers...

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Saturday, October 09, 2010 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
There are a lot of things that I think about wrt this type of situation.

* How is this any different than men who have multiple "baby mommas" who pay minimal child support? At least this guy makes some attempt to care for the women and children.

* The reason that these polygamist sects get away with marrying off the 14 year old girls is because they have to live outside the law. If polygamy was legalized, it could be policed better. (A lot of crime goes unreported to authorities in polygamist sects because they are afraid to report things because they think social services will come in and take the kids away - so it is a vicious circle.)

* As a side note, I grew up in central PA, and those Amish marry off their girls way young also, but no one seems to bother with them. When I was a 16 year old candy striper at the hospital, there would be Amish girls my age in there having their 2nd/3rd babies.

* I view the polygamist lifestyle a lot differently now that I am approaching 50 than I would have in my 20s. When I was young, I would have been appalled. Now, I think having extra women around would be great, because let's face it, that is who does the work in a household. I'm tired!