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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, October 16, 2009 - 7:59 pm
I just went to tmz.com to see what they put out there: Quote: Sheriff Jim Alderden said Falcon's parents "expressed statements, non verbal communication, body language, and emotions that were consistent with the events taking place." He confirmed Richard Heene called the FAA first, then a local TV station before calling 911 -- because 9 News had a helicopter they believed could help the situation. Also interesting to note -- Falcon's parents were asked if they wanted to be present when investigators interviewed him yesterday, but they didn't care, so he went solo. Alderdon said the video of Falcon from Larry King has raised skepticism in the department and they will re-interview the family tomorrow -- giving the boy time to recover from that puke filled interview on "Today." Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0UA7EO3Tw
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, October 16, 2009 - 8:21 pm
I saw exactly what Kar did and I agree with Kar's view. I don't think you could act out parts and practice everything just right with a 6 y.o.. Regarding what Falcon said on LKL, I believe the father's explanations. I did see Falcon being asked to climb up there "just as he did when was thought to be lost" for a camera/show. It's easy for a tired, over-whelmed 6 y.o. to get confused: Are they talking about what I did earlier, earlier, or just earlier...?? I see those practically disorganized parents unable to organize their children to fake such an affair.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, October 16, 2009 - 9:48 pm
Here is a Youtube of the three kids and their talents or lack thereof and the clever video editing of whoever produced this video. I find the video to be very clever, very professional and perhaps a bit too above the level of what young children should be rapping. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmcpgAcLC8k
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 6:40 am
That's pretty disgusting.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 7:16 am
I want to post the NPR Simon Says thoughts on it - Quote: I suppose I should point out, as many listeners who write me have, how many truly important stories could have been covered in those three hours the news chased what turned out to be an empty balloon. There are so many huge stories that earn little attention: the persisting war in eastern Congo that has killed more than 5 million people; the continued slavery and abuse of millions of children in eastern Europe and Asia; and even roadway deaths in the U.S., that kill almost as many people as cancer. But stories like that don't just pop in front of you like a rogue balloon. Off and on for three hours on Thursday, I watched a silvery balloon streak through the skies and worried that a young boy might be aboard. I wondered both how frightened a little boy might be, and how totally cool—and I'll bet that's the word he'd use—it would be to hover above the trees, roads, and mountains on a faultlessly beautiful fall afternoon. My daughters and I tell each other stories in which we circle Chicago's skyscrapers or the Eiffel Tower on a witch's broom, waving at our friends and touching the stars. Whatever happened, I'm glad Falcon Heene is safe. And the three hours a lot of people spent caring about him strike me as time well-spent. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113899352&live=1 (and I apologize for the double post - it didnt show when I posted the tmz link! ?)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 9:08 am
and did anyone ask if that mylar balloon could've flown with any weight - much less app 50#? Reader, FWIW, Alderden said they called experts in the field at the local university and were told that with the size of the balloon it could carry 80 pounds. Falcon's weight was given to them at 37 pounds, so they found it very plausible at the time.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 2:17 pm
Someone put up the Heene's whole ep of Wife Swap on youtube today. It's in 5 parts. The links to the other 4 parts are in the description area. And now it's no longer available (copyright issues, of course). 
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 5:36 pm
October 17th, 2009 Sheriff: Charges expected in 'balloon boy' case Posted: 09:25 PM ET (CNN) — Authorities in Colorado say criminal charges are expected to be filed in the case involving a storm-chasing Fort Collins father whose giant Mylar balloon ascended into the sky earlier this week — sparking fears that his 6-year-old was aboard. "We anticipate criminal charges will be filed sometime in the near future," Larimer County Sheriff Jim Alderden told CNN. http://cnnwire.blogs.cnn.com/2009/10/17/charges-expected-against-in-balloon-boy-case/
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Saturday, October 17, 2009 - 8:30 pm
Just saw that on Yahoo news and wondered if it had been posted here. I am not particularly surprised. Man, I sure would like to hear what the two other Wife Swap wives have to say about all of this, if anything. Or the husbands, for that matter.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 5:56 am
They showed the woman from wife swap who had to live with Heene, the day the balloon was up. Before any of this came out that it could be a hoax, she said she always felt that Heene would do absolutely anything for publicity. I have to say I had the same gut reaction when I saw just who this family was who belonged to balloon boy. I saw the episodes of Wife Swap with them, and that dad seems really off balance to me (to put it mildly).
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 8:07 am
Smokey, I saw an interview with one who said she didn't think it was a hoax. Not sure if it ws the same wife swap wife? There's a press conference at 11 here, so I'm waiting to see what evidence they have; since the very same sheriff was so adamant previously that it wasn't a hoax. Of course, Sheriff Alderden marches to his own drum as well, not in a good way, so you never know what he's going to do.
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 8:34 am
The Heenes were on wife swap, so there are two wives that have swapped with them.
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 8:35 am
I meant to put TWICE! They were on there twice, so there were two wives that had the experience of living with them
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 8:38 am
This family reminds me of why I've never gotten into watching any of the reality shows featuring families.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:01 am
The wife swap wife that I saw was the heavy set blond woman who has a slight accent or maybe it's a speech impediment. She is a psychic, if I remember right. She wasn't mean spirited or anything, and I think you're right Karuuna. I am pretty sure she said she didn't think it was a hoax (or hoped not) but she said she feels Heene would do anything to be in the spotlight. ETA: I read a couple articles last night about a young man who worked for Heene who kind of blew the whistle on him. If I can find the link, I will post it. I am making dinner for company, right now.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:03 am
Heh... apparently the reality show that Heene was trying to sell earlier had as one of its plot lines something similar to what happened...
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Cwcoop
Member
04-19-2008
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:05 am
Smokey, what time are we all expected? 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:12 am
Sheriff now says his previous press conference, expressing their support for the family and saying he believed them, was a hoax - a hoax designed to gain the family's trust so they would confess. 
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:13 am
This might be one of the articles Smokey read. http://gawker.com/5383858/exclusive-i-helped-richard-heene-plan-a-balloon-hoax
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:21 am
I remember not being able to watch the whole episode of the Heene family on wife swap. I've never watched Jerry Springer in my life, but have seen it flipping through the channels. Just seeing it for those few seconds gives me a very anxious feeling and I can't flip away fast enough. That's what watching this family was like. I just wanted someone to sit down and hug these little boys and talk softly with them for a minute to see if there was any calmness there.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:23 am
Well, the sheriff now says that there is no doubt this was a hoax. There will be misdemeanor (false reporting) and felony (endangering a child, conspiracy) charges. There may be federal charges as well for interfering with air travel? My heart is just breaking for those children. Truly.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 9:45 am
When the video of the 'launch' surfaced, I wondered why would they have a video when it was supposed to be an accident. Everything about this is just weird. Hopefully, they can sort it out.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 10:42 am
I didnt believe the dad at the first press conference! He is a horrible fake crier. So fake.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 10:57 am
Kar, my heart is breaking for them too. I am just sick about this. When I first turned the computer on and read the Comcast story that it was a hoax, I had my doubts. That story was not well written and had typos. Now that I am in this thread, I see that the story was correct, that it was all a hoax. My heart just sank for those kids. There are going to be serious consequences. CPS is investigating. The kids may be taken away from their parents. The parents could go to prison. I think the fine mentioned could be $500,000. (I went to post the link but that article has now been cleaned up and changed some. Here is that cleaned up one. link Along with the above, I feel so bad for kids whose parents teach them to lie.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 18, 2009 - 11:00 am
Well, you know that six year old has to be suffering, since he clearly feels like it was his fault they were caught - witness the throwing up on tv the day after. I don't know, maybe it will be better for them to be taken away from these folks who clearly have some mental health issues. But it's always a tough tough road for kids when their parents are mentally ill, even if they do go to better homes.
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