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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 10:30 am
I'm so happy that they kept Michael instead of Sam. Sam really didn't have anything more to receive at the ranch...at that point he was just in it for the prize money. I thought all the contestants looked really great with their makeovers. I think Sam looks more like Koli's father than Koli does.
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Justpassingby
Member
08-14-2007
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 12:22 pm
I noticed that too, Roxip! Part of Ashley's clothing problem is that she still has a lot of "skin"---you can see it when she is in her "weigh in" outfit. All that empty skin has sagged down around her hips.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 1:26 pm
Sam was like that for the last few weeks too, although I think in the last week or so not so much...he had lots of skin sag...the byproduct of too much weight loss too fast. But Sam looked like he had less the past 2 weeks IMO. But he does have a prodigious set of man boobs. He had them before and after his weight loss.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 4:14 pm
I'll be pleased if Sam does stay at or near his goal weight and doesn't return to the finale looking skeletal as we've seen in some cases in the past.. I think Mike is a wee bit whiney about poor me I'm still fat. For heaven's sake, he started out huge and he's been able to lose almost 200 pounds and never had to go home like Sunshine, O'Neal, etc. He got to control the creation of teams to his advantage and he is still there and he cannot expect to be as unfat as the others when he started out that large. Koli was 400 and shorter than Michael and he's also done very well too. Michael should look at others who were the previous "biggest evers".. the kid who had to do two seasons, or Shay who will be returning at the end of this season. Michael is ahead of them by far and has plenty of incentive now to help his sister.. he will have training partners at home as he continues on. Maybe he is angling to get some deal for more loss like the one offered to Shay last season.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 5:41 am
I didn't get that feeling from Michael at all. I simply think that he realizes that he was dangerously, grossly obese. His angle, if you want to use that term, is that Sam is done...he has nothing more to accomplish at the ranch, while even another week would probably help Michael immensely. Of course I think it was a foregone conclusion that Daris and Ashley would vote for Michael...they know if it gets down to Sam, Sunshine and Koli against the two of them they will be picked off one by one unless they stay above the yellow line. I know, as a large person, that I would be hesitant to leave the ranch...you have a fear that you will slip back in your old habits once you don't have the ranch to fall back on.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 7:09 am
I thought Michael's reaction was more of a 'reality check' moment. In the house, they are insulated, with alot of support. When he went to the Big Big and Tall store to shop, I thought he just realized how much further he still had to go. It can appear daunting at moments and I thought he just had one of those moments. You've lost 183lbs and you still need to lose 183lbs more. And yes, I think he was a bit jealous of the others shopping in a normal store. Plus, I think he wanted to have someone with him to share the moment. Once he got to the mirror and saw his sister, he seemed to be back to normal. "It's easy, I'll show you how" to his sister. So, for me, it was just a momentary thing that would be a normal reaction in my book.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 7:13 am
The fact is Michael is still grossly obese (which is defined as at least 100 pounds over ideal body weight). He does have a long way to go. He does need to stay in this controlled environment for as long as possible. It probably is a lot easier when your entire job is to lose weight and exercise, and you are surrounded by a support system of like-minded people. The true test is when you re-enter the real world. I hope the contestants are mentally prepared for that...obviously from past seasons most of them are, but there are always going to be a few who aren't.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 8:08 am
Is there somewhere online that has before/after pictures of the makeovers (for those of us who couldn't see/tape the show)?

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Gumby
Member
08-14-2004
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 9:27 am
http://www.nbc.com/the-biggest-loser/photos/gallery#item=121053 Kona, this is NBC's site that has the makeover photos.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:24 am
Well I do think there is still gameplay.. I don't think they are all just sending Sam home because he doesn't need to be there as much as others (even though that is true), but because they hope Koli and Sunshine will be more vulnerable without Sam. And that is just part of the game. Koli is a huge threat but Michael and Ashley started out SO overweight that they can lose a higher % and still be ok to lose more but they have to try to hold back those who threaten them the most. As of the last show: Daris is down 40.751% Koli is down 39.454% Michael is down 36.503% with much more to lose Sam is down 36.04% but basically done losing Sunshine is down 35.272% Ashley is down 34.615% with much more to lose I'm sure those still left will target Koli even though he has more to lose than does Daris, if Koli isn't safe. But me seeing Mike as whiney is just my judgement after a season where he was often in control of the destiny of others. Of course I understand that he's emotional but it rubs me the wrong way.. just as many people here are "tired" of Sunshine and O'Neal's emotions .. I'm not.. I find them touching and understandable. I just didn't see them as cold acting as Michael was at times. And I did say a "wee bit whiney" not that he's a huge whiner, because I don't think that of him at all. He's come a LONG way! And I'm sure it WAS hard for Michael that Sam didn't have to go to Big and Tall and Sam is also quite tall. There isn't any one of them who came to the ranch, who didn't need help, need to be there and who couldn't continue to benefit long term from working out there and with Bob and Jillian. Michael was just bigger than others but they were all really big. Then they add in the quarter millon dollars and that skews things, of course.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 10:46 am
Oh, I agree that there is still gameplay. It served Daris and Ashley to keep Michael as it gives their group of "independents" a majority. Right now I would thihk it is Daris or Koli's to lose but Michael still could come back with a huge weight loss and win...with lots of weight left to lose. Mike did do some shady things early on, I agree. That splitting of the teams was definitely meant to be provocative, although in the long run it didn't work out how he planned. And I thought at the start of the show he was way too tied in with Mom and they were awfully co-dependent. He has, I believe, done a lot of maturing. He would be well served to move far away from Mom when he gets off the show!
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 2:06 pm
Wow, I would never have recognized Daris. Micheal looks so much better with short hair also.

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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, May 06, 2010 - 2:56 pm
I agree there was gameplay this week, as the others have finally realized there was an alliance of 4 that all stood together. In two short weeks, that alliance is down to 2 people, so now the others have 3, or the majority. I don't like Michael at all (because of his earlier gameplay) but they kept him over Sam because he votes with Darus and Ashley. Sam is an excellent competitor; however, Michael still has a lot to lose. If they do target Koli, it seems Sunshine just might make it to the Final 4!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 4:56 pm
Spoilersssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss Challenge when they carry all their lost weight over a course. Daris won and beat Tara's time by 10 minutes. Offered $10K or 1 pound advantage, he took the one pound.
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Longbeachbbfan
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:18 pm
Thanks, Gidget. Appreciate the spoiling. GO DARIS!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:31 pm
YW. I don't have anything more to offer. If you love touchy feely bring on the tears, you will love this episode that is a big trip down memory lane with some former winners thrown in for advice. If you want weigh in info in 30 minutes just holler.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:35 pm
Curtis Stone will visit the winner of the weigh in at their home to help them with their diet.
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Longbeachbbfan
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:44 pm
Yes, I would love weigh-in info. Who is Curtis Stone?
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:46 pm
The blond guy (chef) on Celebrity Apprentice. Although, I think he's known for a cooking show or something.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:47 pm
I like that Daris took the 1 lb over the 10k. Hope that works for him.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:49 pm
Spoilersssssssssssssssssssssss Koli 13 Daris 10 Michael 12 All in the final 4.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:51 pm
So, it's between Ashley and Sunshine?
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:54 pm
SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS Ashley 7, Sunshine 2 Sunshine is out. She was very gracious and very grown up about it.
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Longbeachbbfan
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:56 pm
OMG, how did I not know that! DUH! Curits is so enjoyable on CA...so HOT!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, May 11, 2010 - 5:58 pm
At 5'6", Sunshine at 176 pounds is nearing her goal weight. With all the extra large contestants, they may have to change the criteria for winning. Maybe set a goal weight and whoever gets closest to their goal weight?
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