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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 7:31 pm
I happen to like Jeanna also. She is really looking good this year. Her daughter was starting to act like a spoiled brat and she stopped giving her money and told her if she wanted things she had to get a job. I thought that was great, and that is just what her d/d did. As far as her bringing that guy to Vickies little 4th weekend, I am sure that she did that on purpose and the way Vickie has been treating her (and most everyone else) I don't blame her a bit...in fact I say yea Jeanna. I also agree that Gretchen has every right to some time out from her life, especially to spend it with her family and Tamera just went down quite a few notches for that classless and mean remark. And as far as Lynn and her family goes...I say who cares about them. Just my Happy, Healthy, New Year Everyone!!!!
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 9:22 am
Lol Tamra's never had much class to begin with.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 10:33 am
Much or any, Mocha? But yeah, she really fell off the likeability scale with her remarks to Gretchen. And Gretchen's response was spot on... unless you've had someone close to you with cancer, you aren't entitled to an opinion.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 11:55 am
This episode was just yuck! I have taken it off my DVR. Watching Tamra and Vicki did it. And, Lynn adds absolutely nothing.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 1:29 pm
I always forget when this is on, when is the regular airing of it and what station?
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Thesnark
Member
09-27-2008
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 1:38 pm
Bravo Tuesday 10pm
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Jodie75
Member
08-26-2004
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 6:21 pm
Wow, I wonder what I'm in for? The last epi aired here was just a repeat of the last one. (Tamra's icky lingerie show, and the utterly tacky behaviour at Etoilé). Grrr, I SO wish us Canadians weren't always behind the Americans!! At least they are airing Top Chef at the same time for all of North America!! I am so glad that we'll soon be back to our regular tv programming! I had such a better time this Christmas due to someone special, but I need my tv! 
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Malaka
Member
07-05-2007
| Thursday, January 01, 2009 - 9:06 pm
I really like Jenna's daughter, Kara. She is cute, smart, grounded in reality, ethical, self responsible, enthusiastic, funny and a Republican. Jenna did good. Vicki's daughter seemed to have turned out to be a pretty decent person despite the fact that Vicki tried so hard and obnoxiously to make Briana think like her.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, January 02, 2009 - 5:50 am
ITA with you Malaka re: Briana. What is ironic is Vicki talks about how Briana is a good person because of her. My opinion is it is amazing that Briana is a good person in spite of her mother.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, January 02, 2009 - 8:37 am
Thx Snark!! I think Tues at 10 is open for me now..oh wait! I think Nip/Tuck is on at that time, thank goodness for dvr!
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Friday, January 02, 2009 - 7:32 pm
Chitchat58 wrote: I am in the minority here, but I like Tamra. I agree with her, I would never leave my husband or loved one in ICU for more than a few hours. I can see if he was in a regular room, but ICU is too risky. I think Gretchen is just in it for the perks. You could hear the fear in Jeffs voice, that alone would have me heading back ASAP. I totally agree with this. To each his own, but if I my husband were in the ICU, I would not be off on vacation like Gretchen. One thing is to go home and rest up a bit, but it is quite another thing to head off with the cameras in tow to enjoy myself at a bbq. Jeff sounded really down and kids or no kids I think he would have preferred to have Gretchen sitting with him.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 8:46 am
I disagree that Jeff sounded down. He sounded tired and sleepy. I also think that you can't really know what you'd do. Jeff had been sick for quite a while, and Gretchen had been taking care of him for the entire time. Finally, you do not know what conversation occurred between Jeff and Gretchen. It's entirely likely that he insisted that she get away for the holiday weekend. As I said earlier, it's really no one's business what Gretchen did and whether you think it's appropriate or not. What is relevant is whether the two of them came to an agreement. And based on how she acted that weekend, including the call to Jeff and the kids visiting, I'd say they pre-arranged it all.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 9:25 am
Jeff's kids seemed entirely o.k. with Gretchen having a weekend off. That's good enough for me! And I'll tell you, as the primary caregiver of my mother, there are times when I insist my one of my sisters look after her so I can get away. Granted she's not dying, but caregiving is really tiring and can get to you!
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 11:45 am
1. taking care of someone in jeff's condition must be very stressful and you do need temporary breaks from the situation. 2. her kids seem to always give her credit for what she does for her dad, so i would tend to side with the kids on this as they would know best. 3. having said that, i think what seems bad(?)to people is that she was shown by Bravo as partying at the lake, drinking and sex jokes with her father. i think most dont begrudge her for taking a break just the partying aspect of it puts a bad light on it. 4. as far as it not being any of our business, as soon as she signed on the dotted line to be on a "reality" show then it is our business as viewers. good opinions or bad opinions, they signed up for it. otherwise you might as well close these forums.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 12:01 pm
When I do get away for a night, I put all of my faith in my sisters to care for my Mom. I don't drink or anything, but I laugh and laugh and rarely give her a thought that particular night. I don't care what Gretchen did on her weekend off, we all need a release from the stress!
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 1:51 pm
My SO was in the hospital for months a few years back. I did go to him a lot, but also had a life outside. I had to work and raise my son. We are fortunate that things turned out well, but as others have said, you don't know til you go through it. There was no sense me making myself sick or possibly to resent him.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 2:11 pm
When my mother was in the hospital, my dad and I went in shifts. He went in the morning so I could go to work and then I'd take the afternoon shift. This went on for months. I have no problem with Gretchen needing time with her own family. She made sure that Jeff was taken care of by his children. I just think, as Oreganguy said above, that Bravo could have shown it in a better light.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 3:00 pm
I agree with Oregnguy..that's what irked me; her grabbing her boobs and all the butt shaking, drinking and being so loud on the boat. Not like someone who is going through something so tough. Or maybe, that's how she deals with it. I don't know her personally but perhaps it's her personality?
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 4:15 pm
I too agree with Orengonguy. She just came across as heartless and golddigging to me. I don't begrudge anyone from taking some time off, but to go "partying" like she purportedly did was in poor taste for me...kid approval or not.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 4:45 pm
I really can't understand why Gretchen shouldn't enjoy herself. Should she have her chin down on her chest and tears running down her cheeks? As others have alluded to before me, if you haven't been in our shoes you can't possibly be judging fairly.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Bravo is probably portraying her as a partying gold digger on purpose. That's her role on this show.
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Thesnark
Member
09-27-2008
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 5:02 pm
Don't see anywhere in the last handful of posts that gretchen should be sitting around crying. Myself, even if jeff was 100% healthy I wouldn't like her mini vicki behavior at the lake. Drunk behavior isn't entertaining to me on tv or in real life.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 5:13 pm
Then you're watching the wrong show!
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Thesnark
Member
09-27-2008
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 5:21 pm
No, they don't show them being drunk idiots very often. The behavior at havasu etc is college type age behavior. More of the mtv/vh1 shows. On those shows I expect it <24>
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, January 03, 2009 - 6:05 pm
<24> All i was saying is after what bravo chose to show us, its very easy for me to understand why people would question gretchen on thought. i NEVER said she should be by his side 24/7 in tears. on to a lighter thought, i did crack up when lynne was offended that her daughters bf thought her daughter was dressed like a stripper. "but it's my dress". also thought she was a little pushy at the lunch trying to control what they could and couldn't talk about.
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