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Justpassingby
Member
08-14-2007
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 5:41 am
I just want to point out that Robert's heart problem wasn't actually connected to his weight. He had pericarditis which is excessive fluid in the sack surrounding the heart. The causes are usually either a virus or a trauma to the chest. The reason I remember it so well, is that about that same time, my 39 year old son, who isn't obese, was being treated for the same thing--.
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Mack
Member
07-23-2002
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 6:22 am
I didn't mean to imply that his heart condition was a result of his weight. Indeed my mother-in-law suffered from the some thing and nobody would ever have looked at her as overweight. I just thought I'd read here and other places he'd lost a lot of weight and was generally taking better care of himself. That wasn't obvious from last night. That aside he didn't perform all that well but nobody did. I think in part that early on they put the folks through some rough times to weed out the weakest and they all look bad during the early sessions.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 8:25 am
BAck to Back episodes! The men are winning the challenges, and right now they do look like there are more competent cooks on that side! Again, with editing the women look really helpless, and Robert dosent seem experienced at all! The cleaning the shrimp shouldnt have been that difficult - one shrimp per minute - and Robert did 4? I think they went overboard at expressing how awful serving RAW food to a "pregnant" woman - over and over and over at each DR - Tenille seemed to have done a good job with the shrimp - except for that one service - and even the plate they showed didnt look "RAW" undercooked, I'll buy that, but not "raw" - Next weeks previews shows a BIG epic problem involving medics, fire department, people running out of bed in the middle of the night!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 9:02 am
Regardless of the cause of Robert's medical condition that sent him home before, his weight DID affect him throughout the show in terms of lack of stamina and of course in being large enough that he couldn't take full participation in rewards. I cannot believe that his weight is GOOD for his heart and would think that a scare regarding his heart would at least convince him to make a few changes. I think he was going to return to the show no matter what happened on the show. And that is one of Ramsays good sides, that he does want to give second chances to people. The previews look over blown but it could be interesting. So Louie was thrown off, Melinda sent home, Robert is on the women's team, Andy and Tony "on the block", as are Lovely and Tennille and Joseph is trying to commit HK suicide by calling out Ramsay while Van was just insufferable last night. I think I have the names right.. my notes are downstairs and I'm upstairs.
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Nala63
Member
09-20-2005
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:00 am
does chef ramsey hate americans or is the yelling all for show?? his bbc shows are so much better. he treats them like humans, lol. he is enjoyable to watch. not so hells kitchen, but ill keep on watching.
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Gumby
Member
08-14-2004
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 11:25 am
Stacey, AOL Television has 16 full episodes of Tori and Dean online. Hopefully the two you are missing are out there. Here's the link: http://television.aol.com/show/tori-and-dean-home-sweet-hollywood/10249654/full-episodes
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 3:07 pm
Twinkie - I would SWEAR you posted a hula link to view the episode I missed last night! Am I crazy - whoops, don't answer that! Is there a link?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 5:19 pm
Nala, this is just one of Ramsay's personnae.. for Hell's Kitchen. There is a nice side seen, even on that show when he will really encourage someone he thinks shows promise. And bringing back Robert.. he really felt terrible when Robert had to leave last season, even though he'd been pretty mean to Robert about his weight. I've read his bio and he loves to swear for sure.. it was actually great fun to turn on the robotic voce on my Kindle and listen to it spew expletives plus try to pronouced all the British slang, culinary terms and French phrases. He is much nicer on his other show. I haven't seen the BBC shows.. well, maybe I have, come to think of it. And this is practice.. Chefs really are in charge and not always nice. I can still remember my brother telling us about a regular customer of his at a restaurant who would order warm milk. My brother would just warm it up himself, because the chef would have pitched a fit and as my brother pointed out, the guy was usually drinking while cooking and "he had all the sharp knives". LOL
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 5:59 pm
Gumby thank you so much, I swear I have checked them out earlier and nothing was there. I will investigate more tomorrow. I appreciate the help.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 7:07 pm
TNT- And I swear I posted a link for you to watch earlier.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 7:20 pm
But, Twinkie - where is it????? Could you please post the hula link again - and we will hope that the cyber Boogies are asleep!
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Nala63
Member
09-20-2005
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 7:52 pm
ty Sea...i know what you mean, lol..my son in law is an executive chef at a rest. here in asheville and he loves to pop in when hes supposed to be out of town to make sure his staff is dong what they should. on bbc its the f word and ramseys kitchen nightmares.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 8:20 pm
Ahhh, Ashville..I loved that place when I was there briefly..
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 8:26 pm
HELL'S KITCHEN EPISODE 7/21, EPISODE 1 EPISODE 2
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 9:01 pm
Tnt, its www.hulu.com
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Braveheart61901
Member
08-11-2006
| Wednesday, July 22, 2009 - 10:56 pm
Thanks to everyone for posting the replay schedule and other links. This is one of my favorite shows and I had NO idea it was on again. My lord, so many reality obsessions, so little time, lol!
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Pippin04
Member
10-26-2007
| Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 1:46 am
Once again I cannot believe how many of these people smoke. Although it seems to be fewer this season. I have been to his place in NY and was told by the staff he is actually a really nice guy and does not act like he does on the show. However he is very demanding and the service and food always has to be fantastic. It is by the way. BTW there is a $10 000 bottle of wine on the wine list, and although I asked I was not allowed to try it without purchasing. Obviously I have not tried it.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 6:10 am
OK so I don't know if I'm just burned out because it hasn't been that long since the last "season" of HK, or what but... First of all, I did NOT like Robert on his season. I thought he acted like a misogynistic pig. And he continued that on this week's show. Odds are high that I'll not watch many more episodes if he stays on. I don't care how nice it is of Ramsey to give someone a second chance. I don't like Robert and likely never will. And then there's the "I think I'm just burned out." I'm just not that thrilled. They definitely "cast" this show. The "dumb blonde" the "dumb young male" the "overly aggressive male" and the "overly aggressive female." I don't know their names yet, but these four were definitely present. While Ramsey is known as a good chef, I'm not sure any of the winners of his shows are. Sorry, I just think I'm overcooked on this show. Pun intended! 
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Thursday, July 23, 2009 - 6:18 am
I watched 30 minutes of this mess. I'm done. Screaming and yelling by anyone is not a show of any kind.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 1:54 pm
Thanks to both Rslover and Twinks for the links above. I FINALLY got to the library today to watch it. Accidentally clicked on the second episode and GRACIOUS GOODNESS - I am southern, you remember! - conflict on every side! I had to keep the sound turned waaaaaay down because I was getting funny looks from the other computer users!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, July 26, 2009 - 3:45 pm
Tnt - when you use the library computers to watch tv, etc you just have to ask for headphones!! (at least the libraries here in IL!!) I'm guessing that they are picking and encouraging "types" and yelling and F word has goe so far over the top - that it has to be spelled out to them - yet its still way over the top and harsh- as was the level of incompetent cooks - is it the pressure of the set up? Is it the producers pick people not "chefs"??? I dont know, but I try and "tune out" Chef Ramsy, being raised in that kind of environment, you do learn to tune it out,
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Kittyab
Member
07-16-2005
| Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 10:37 am
Ok I can not believe how disrespectful that Joesph was to Ramsey last night!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 10:45 am
but I wonder if he wasnt "encouraged" or something? He really seemed to have "snapped" to totally flip out - in an "I'm NOT going to take it anymore" attitude - and I had to LOL at the "b itch" comment - it so reminded me of whats her name from Bravo's Top Chef 2 seasons ago (directed to Tiffany - he said it much better tho!) they seemed to really cook - Lovely and 42 minutes to put one ticket in was clearly confusing! What took 42 min? and was it just the one ticket? or all her tickets? (as in they saw it was going to take her 42 min so someone else took over the other tables? or did they all have more than one person writing orders?)
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 10:55 am
I wonder if Joseph spent time in Iraq (he is an ex-marine) or Afghanistan? His behavior was so far off the wall, but it reminded me of recent news stories about Ft. Carson soldiers - where an extraordinary number of them have come back from these wars and committed violent crimes.
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Delilah
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, July 29, 2009 - 12:16 pm
My theory on Joseph was that he saw how hard it was and how good some of the other contestants were and that he proabbly wouldn't win. So he might have decided he wanted to go out like THIS rather than have Ramsey yell and humiliate him, all to just eventually have to grovel and beg to stay, but then ultimately get kicked off anyway. Not saying its good, but maybe in his mind, Joseph feels like he went out on his terms, you know? Although i don't know how many poeple would be proud to have him as an employee as he declared after his "eviction."
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