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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 10:13 am
I've come to the conclusion that Bethenny was more of a project to Jill than a friend. Now that the project has taken off and no longer needs a manager, there is no friendship to fall back on. If Jill were a true friend, her only concern would have been Bethenny's happiness, not her own image. Luann? Pheh. I've always found her to talk the talk but not walk the walk. To say, "I'll wish you the best, even if you did call me a snake" is classless, Countless. I think I may buy Alex and Simon's book, even though I have no kids and I don't live in the big city! Apparently it is written much like Simon's blog, which I enjoy. Plus, it will pump their numbers up over Jill's. ;-)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 10:23 am
Good points about Jill, Prisoner. I got the impression Jill was jealous that everyone else heard about Bethenny's engagement first, and from Bethenny herself. And that Jill was jealous because everything Bethenny had dreamed of is coming true. And not for lack of hard work either. At this point, I would never buy anything that Jill produces OR endorses.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 10:35 am
Costa, I'm shocked you didn't say anything about the length of Kelly's "dress" at that event! If you would like to see the epitome of cattiness, check out this video: http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/videos/pregnancy-rumors
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 10:45 am
Oh, and exactly how much poop do chihuahuas hold? that stuff was all over the place....
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 11:04 am
Costa, I became a fan of Alex last season.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 12:10 pm
Lex, hon, you are just so much ahead of your time!! Prisoner, ya know, I tried to forget that image of Kelly and her, um, "exposure." I think she's worn that dress before. I have to say though, that she is entirely too old to wear a shirt that barely covers her arse cheeks. I loved Bethenny constantly pulling her hair over her boobage, too. That poor dog, Ginger. Pooping everywhere, and then to have Jill shrieking all around can't possibly help that poor little dog's piece of mind. I'm not sure Jill should be a dog owner, from some of the stuff I've seen her do. And who the heck feeds matzo ball soup to a dog? No wonder the dog had diarrhea too!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 12:12 pm
...and don't forget how that man had the audacity to wear plastic shoes in her house. Why did she even comment on them? What a snob!
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 12:27 pm
That was a dog? 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 2:27 pm
LOL! Yeah, plastic. All I could think of was "what an arrogant piece of..." well, I can't say it here. But if the vet tech was vegan and didn't wear animal byproducts, yeah, synthetics are the only thing to wear. I'm not a big fan of chihuahuas anyways but... that thing looks more like rat than a dog!
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 5:18 pm
I'm probably gonna get slammed but here goes, Jill can't get over that Bethany didn't show concern about Bobby when he had Cancer. I remember when Bethany ran down to Miami when she was upset with something in her life and when she didn't fly from Miami to N.Y to be by Jills side for Bobbys operation and sent flowers that was hurtfull to Jill. Yes, Jill is and can be a smothering mother type but Bethany also knew that, and used Jill. Somehow they couldn't get past it because Bethany was busy, but you usually put some effort into a friendship especially if there is an illness. That seemed to be the theme through Jills talking this season, was Bobby, and Bethany didn't seem to care. After Bethany's baby is here they may get back together. It would be nice. JMO
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 6:11 pm
Word on the street is that Bethenny sent flowers as soon as she found out Bobby was sick. Then Bethenny said Jill wouldn't respond to messages she'd left her on e-mail and the phone when she called to check on Bobby. In response to Bethenny confronting Jill about her lack of return phone calls etc., Jill said on one of the episodes that Bethenny "should have known" what was going on (something to that effect). In other words, purposely dissed Bethenny because she didn't know how bad it was (which it wasn't...) and by some Lucky Charms magic, she should have dropped everything and come running to Jill's side. From what I've read, there will never be a reconciliation. Sorry, but Jill was all over the place at this event or that event while Bobby lay there "cut from ear to ear" blah blah blah. I'd personally go to NYC and slap Bethenny upside her head if she ever got reinvolved with Jill, especially after the way Jill has trashed her every way to Sunday. Jill's "confessionals" on the show, and her interactions with the likes of Luann during this season said it all. She's nasty, bitter, and extremely immature. Bleh on her!
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 7:37 pm
You know what I think this is really about? I think Jill has a girlcrush on Luann. When Luann became divorced and needed a friend, Jill jumped in with both feet and invented grievances against Bethenny to give a common enemy for Luann and Jill to bond over. But now that Sonja is around, Luann is immediately gravitating toward her because she is 1) very wealthy and 2) single and into the (let's be polite and call it) dating scene. So now Jill is realizing that she is only going to be a fringe member of the Luann-Sonja-Kelly rich single girl group, so she suddenly wants Bethenny back so that she can be important to someone again.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 7:47 pm
That sounds about right Alisons! Good thinking!
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Sia
Member
03-10-2002
| Friday, April 23, 2010 - 8:34 pm
I caught a little of "Watch What Happens" on Bravo (from the DVR) today, and Bethenny looks very healthy pregnant--for a skinny girl! By that, I mean she's put on a little weight and it looks good on her! And, even better, she seems very happy. I'm glad for her. My DH blabbed through the episode, so I'll have to re-watch it.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 5:05 am
Alisons, I think you nailed it!!!! Sia, husbands should not be allowed in the same room when our TV shows are on. As Bethenny said, they should "get a hobby." 
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 5:34 am
Alison you are brilliant!!! I bet you're right. What a smart cookie. My pea brain never even thought of that lol.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 9:39 am
Ok, people are saying that Bobby's condition wasn't serious, and perhaps it wasn't. Every time I read something like that or hear someone on the show say it I think back to when I got an abnormal pap in Nov, and had to go through two biopsies. Now, while it ended up not being cancer, it really took a toll on us, in fact, more on my husband than myself. So maybe this is what Jill went through with Bobby. I don't know but I know how my husband reacted, and I know how the company he worked for reacted, let alone friends (very very supportive). I just had to get that out because I know what it can be like to have it not be a major thing, but, when it is you or your loved one it IS major to you. I can say I think Ramona must have just learned the world renew, every flipping episode she says it as if it is the word of the year LOL... sorry drives me a bit batty. I don't understand Jill getting up and walking away when Bethany got there, they are supposed to be adults, everyone in life has to be around someone they may not want to be around.. you suck it up. I also don't understand this relationship between Bethany and Alex. Maybe Alex has a short term memory because I sure wouldn't forget how I was treated previously. Actually, as I sit here, I don't understand any of them or why any of them do what they do. Wow, I am being so negative let me see... Bobby and Jason seem to be very supportive of their women. Even though Bobby seems to be telling Jill to get over it, he is still there for her until she is ready. Hmm, it is interesting to see different apartments and such while Luann looks for a place. I will have to remember those prices when I get frustrated with rental prices out here! I am sure there is more reasonably priced stuff out there for normal people though right? Please say right LOL. As far as the items everyone is selling during their 15 minutes, I won't be buying any. It isn't something I need, and there are many other things I would want before anything they have. Now that being said, if Bethany had been an overweight woman and did these recipes and this is her book on sharing how she lost weight, I would probably buy it. That isn't how it is so, no need to buy it. 
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 10:51 am
Sorry, I just can't dredge up much sympathy or whatever for Jill. From everything I've read, Bobby had a tumor removed and it required no follow-up radiation or chemotherapy. So he could have had something like a goiter. Otherwise he would have had further treatments. I had my entire thyroid removed and the scar is no longer than 2-2 1/2 inches long. So Bobby either had a partial or full thyroidectomy and is taking Synthroid like the rest of us. For Jill to say he was "cut from ear to ear" is BS, plain and simple. Either that or he had a butcher for a surgeon. Trust me, I get the whole thing about how scary a cancer diagnosis can be. I had a hysterectomy at 32 years old because of precancerous cells that were deep into my uterus which made them very dangerous. In my early 40's I was diagnosed with breast cancer and had bilateral mastectomies. I have had T-cell lymphoma since 1996 and was told I would probably survive 3 years. I did two years of chemo and I'm still here. So not a whole lot of people can even remotely relate to the degree I can...just sayin. Jill jet-setted all over the place in the summer, it was clear by her Twitter account that she didn't live in the hospital or stay glued to Bobby's side like she made it sound.
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Lotsofkids
Member
08-11-2007
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 1:50 pm
wonder what happens with alex and jill?that looks really juicy!
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 2:30 pm
Ok just watched last weeks, and to be fair, isn't it ironic that as soon as Jill DOES go over to Bethanny and repeatedly wish her and her fiancee the best, that Bethanny stands there with a face like she was sucking on a lemon? Then she decides she is totally OVER Jill. Well just a few minutes earlier she was saying how much she wanted Jill to come over and why wouldn't she. Then when she did, Bethanny totally shut down. So how could Jill win here???? I must say that I've never cared much for Bethanny, but I haven't cared for how Jill has behaved towards and about her this season. That said, now I feel like Bethanny just wants nothing to do with her, and wanted to be painted as a victim all season! Jill has said in past, and I think honestly, that she is the same on the show, but it's a role to Bethanny. Well I think B came up with a way to get Jill out of her life after she didn't need her contacts anymore AND to have it soften her image on the show. Maybe I'm being cynical, but it would explain her actions. Last week I actually was softening a bit about Bethanny and thinking maybe she really was hurt etc. Now I think it's ALL a planned act for her image. And I'm done buying into it. Not saying I'm loving Jill's actions, but as most of us were taught growing up, two wrongs don't make a right!
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 2:48 pm
Ahh, Huk ~ So happy for us that you're here. I never bought the "cut from ear to ear" BS either. Nor did I buy that Bethenny cares that much about her dad. I think most of these women (including the new one) take a small kernel of truth and build it into an enormous drama or story. They remind of a group of women I use to work with. Each year they would pick someone to destroy - for fun. They would distort the truth into unbelieveable gossip, pass it around at work, and then laugh at lunch about the outcome. One victim became an emotional mess because of their gossip and confronted one of the Manson Sisters (as they were nicknamed). The manson sister filed a complaint stating she felt unsafe with this woman at work and presto - the woman could only come back to get her things while escorted by security. I left to get away from that toxic group and that's what the NY housewives remind me of ~ the Manson Sisters. It's okay when they're the ones planting the negative seeds (like Bethenny) but oh dear when someone does it back to them. }
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 2:57 pm
I looked up thyroid cancer and it's one of the most treatable forms of cancer. Jill exaggerated, to me. I can't have children because of fybroid tumors which aren't even cancer but required a hysterectomy at 24. Life throws us all curveballs and we march on. As Huk put so well. I'd says comparing having a husband have a very treatable form of cancer versus having your father dying that Bethenney had the worst situation. Regarding B not eagerly accepting Jill's congratulations. I wouldn't have either. It began with a lie. It's been going on for months and B is seeing Jill's true colors AND as Alison so cleverly pointed out to us. Jill just wants someone that will put her first, as Bethenney did in their friendship and Luann isn't likely to with single Sonja on the scene now.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 4:04 pm
Could we just have two shows...one with Bethenny, Alex and Ramona, and a second show with Kelly, Luann and Jill? I know which one I would watch!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 4:05 pm
wonder what happens with alex and jill?that looks really juicy! Me too! I think I actually laughed right out loud when Jill was crying and saying she would never talk to Alex again. I'm sick of her this year, totally trash talking Bethenny all season, getting such a kick out of herself when she played Bethenny's phone call over the speakerphone.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Saturday, April 24, 2010 - 4:30 pm
Keldogg, that might be what we get. Bethenny is filming her own show now, Bethenny Gets Married. The rumor mill has it that that is the real reason behind the Bethenny/Jill feud. Her show was announced last summer (it was going to be called Skinny in the City at that time), coincidentally right around the time the feud started...
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