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Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
http://www.realitytea.com/2010/06/13/nyc-housewives-jill-zarin-is-a-desperate-d-list-loser/

"So it seems when Jill isn’t busy planting negative stories about her co-stars in the press, she tries to plant good ones about herself. "

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Shenanagon, that was spot on. Exactly what *I* saw when I watched part 1 of the reunion!

Frogi, the one thing that stuck out in that article is that Jill spent July hanging out with Jon Gosselin and Michael Lohan. Um, yeah, isn't this about the time Bobby was lying near his deathbed with his throat sliced open from ear to ear? Also, I hope her publicist fails miserably, because I really don't want to see that fame hog on my TV any more. After part 3 of the reunion, I'm done with RHNYC as long as Jill and Kelly are on it.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm almost embarrassed to say that as much as the behavior of Kelly and Jill disgust me, I just feel so much better about myself after watching an episode with them...so I hope they both come back if there is another season.

Thanks for posting those articles/links Shenanagon and Frogichik.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, June 13, 2010 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL Lil!! I guess you could say that we learn all about etiquette and manners, and how NOT to treat your friends, when we watch this show.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 2:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
Maybe I am crazy, but I really like Jill

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Maybe it's cuz you're a New Yorker! <g,d,r>

Hugz! :-)

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
<---- gathering snacks and satchels of gold for tonight's show! Whoo-hoo!

Oliviamimi
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05-30-2009

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oliviamimi a private message Print Post    
Ginger! I was wondering if there were other Jill fans on this board. I wondered if they were afraid to post. I hate that. I don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable posting on this board. In the past I have been fans of people on other reality shows, mainly big brother, and it seemed like I was the only one. Not to worry though. The tides change quickly. If there is a next year, and if Jill comes back, there will probably be someone else that everyone will turn there anger towards.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
I like Jill in some ways. I don't like much of what she's done this season. I think Bethenny nailed it when she said the fame got to Jill. When Jill is Jill, she's fine. When she's JillZarin, not so much.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I actually liked Jill alot more after the reunion. Then I read her twitters after the show. She was twitting that IF B was her friend this and that. I wanted to slap myself for getting suckered in AGAIN. It was so very disappointing. Her website JillZarin.com is all about defending herself and pointing out the wrongs of others. Her main focus being on Alex but definitely Bethenny was in the mix there as well.

How the F does Jill expect anyone with half a brain to think that she truly wants to be their friend when she does this?

Jill's daughter Ally is now also tweeting much milder things but definitely promoting the Jill is being treated very unfairly theme.

If she'd just shut up and stop defending herself she might look around and see that no one is attacking her.

Her ego is badly bruised and she cannot humbly move on thus making it impossible for any future mend between her and Bethenny and I admire Bethenny for having the grace and wisdom to see this.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
Ya know what? I think they all do the same thing. They talk about each other and they are all into the fame. It is just that they gang up on Jill. Bethenny is no angel. She is a fame as well as all the others.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Sorry, I don't buy that. No one forced Jill to save a voicemail for months just so she could play it on camera. No one forced her to plant stories about castmates leaving the show. No one forced her to make snarky comments about Ramona and Alex behind their back (like sticking her finger in her mouth and pretending to gag after telling Ramona how nice she looked). No one forced her to say repeatedly to both Bethenny and Ramona, if your were my friend or I guess we aren't friends or We are done. No one forced her to make up a persona on Amazon to give her book a good review and Bethenny's a bad review. No one forced her to post about Bethenny's baby on Facebook before the baby was even born, just because she read a gossip tweet about it - and get the sex, weight and ate of birth wrong. While she did some of that in the past (like fighting with Ramona the first season, because Ramona didn't invite her to a dinner party), she took it to a whole new level this season. And it wasn't pretty.

No, Bethenny is not a saint, nor are Alex or Ramona. But they own up to their mistakes. They apologize without offering any excuse for their behavior.

Jill tried way too hard to be the cool girl this season, and failed miserably. She did at the expense of her friendship with Bethenny and the respect of many people who used to be her fans.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Ginger if you go to Bethenny's Twitter page she has not to date posted anything about Jill or anyone else. Her tweets are entirely about her baby Bryn, healthy foods, Jason and Cookie.

I wish Jill would do the same. But she can't let it go.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't see Bethenny as a fame hoe. She's promoting her brand and working it everyday. She doesn't want bad press...any press is not good press for Bethenny, unlike other housewives who just want their name out in press regardless if the press is negative.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
I am ok with Jill being on the show. To me it's Kelly that NEEDS to go! She cannot even string together one coherent sentence. Every time there a scene with Kelly, I end up thinking WTH was that?

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
ITA with the last 2 posts. Jill "almost" had my sympathy in part 1 of the reunion...almost. Then the very next day after the show aired, she put this on her Twitter page:

"Interesting article but someone who changed her mind about me last night."
http://www.facebook.com/jillzarin/posts/133297216683022

It's cryptic to me... DID Bethenny change her mind about Jill? If she did, then why would Jill post something that clearly slams Bethenny and elevates her (Jill) to sainthood status?

You're right that Bethenny has taken the high road. Jill will ride this train until the tracks run out.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Any person who is on television or who writes books, markets products, etc. wants their name in the press. Fame hoaring (lol, those darned red dots)? No, just marketing and PR. Unfortunately, Jill wants to find ways to try and save or recover her positive reputation. She hurts Bethenny in the process. JillZaaaaarin should have owned up far before this. She may have regained some fans.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm so bad, I do not want Kelly gone!!! I want her back next season...she's so much a of train wreck I don't want to miss a min of her derailing or her looniness.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
But can imagine having to deal with that on a regular basis? I wouldn't wish that on anyone. Not even Jill. :-)

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Dealing with Kelly on a regular basis- sigh that would be tough, I actually feel sorry for her kids. It's been mentioned on the show several times that Kelly has no friends. The ladies on the show aren't her friends and only see her when filming is being done. Now that Bethenny is off the show I wonder if Kelly will find another person to obsess about or maybe she'll be a bit calmer?

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Well Kelly Rippa did defend Kelly - it came up in a HW discussion, Kelly R said that she has run into Kelly in the Hamtoms, and at horse shows for the kids, and she seems really "normal" not like the Kelly on the HW show at all - but it sounds like Kelly is surrounded by "people" or "handlers" or "assitants" that might skew things if you ask me...

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
Kelly Ripa could also have been trying to be kind. Which is pretty standard for Kelly Ripa.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Kelly did start out the season being fairly mature - I don't think that getting drug into the Jill drama helped her or her state of mind at all. For the Jill fans on this board - please continue to post and give your POV, it is like the blind people trying to describe an elephant sometimes. My personal opinion of Jill is if she just said - Know what? I was wrong and I have changed and going forward you will not see any mean girl from me - she would be fine. Everyone else would be pretty much obligated to give her a chance to prove herself, and if she could then just not say anything about anyone, she would be fine. Unfortunately, that does not seem to be the approach her PR team is taking.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Kelly Ripa has to be nice. If she was mean and said what she actually thought, they would have a hard time booking guests on her show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, June 14, 2010 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think Kelly's handlers make all the difference in the world. For all we know, she's got a handler next to her, whispering in her ear what she should say or do. Kelly, herself, works her image that she doesn't get along with women. She really doesn't; she seems to only be able to work a room by flirting. And that doesn't go off too well with women. (Honestly, if I were a man, it wouldn't go off too well with me either. I think she's way too "hard" to get by with the flirting thing.)