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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I don't understand Danielle's anger on the book. None of the housewives wrote the book; so they gossiped about her; she can't prevent people from talking about you. And she herself said on the Today show that good or bad if you are talking about her she is in the minds of others.
How disrespectful of Teresa and her husband for Danielle to pull the book out and totally destroy the evening . And in front of her kids no less.
How is it possible for her to return for a 2nd season? Or is the show going to be:"Danielle:The Lone Housewife from NJ ".

Other than Jacqueline no one is going to want to be bothered with her and I can see why !

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 5:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I haven't finished watching this yet but I can totally understand Teresa getting upset. She planned a lovely dinner, invited a guest who she knew she didn't really want but who was Jacqueline's friend, and the guest basically crapped on her dinner table.

Danielle is a real piece of work. Who is invited to a nice dinner and then goes INTENDING to make a scene? Because she did go with just that intent. This woman really can't accept reality and continues to act crazier and crazier. If I were her ex-husband (or husband, as the case may be), I would definitely be seeking full custody after watching her antics on this show.

Danielle doesn't realize... if she'd just shut up about it, the entire thing would have blown over. Instead, she keeps picking at it like a scab and it keeps bleeding. Stupid woman. She has absolutely zero class. If I were the other housewives, I would refuse to be filmed with her.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'm not so sure I would have acted too differently than Danielle. If someone, a supposed friend (although they were only put together for TV; I doubt Danielle would have been invited to this dinner if not for the show besides by Jacqueline) If they went snooping on the internet about me and then brought the book up at the same salon I went too I would make a stink too. Being nasty works both ways. I think they got what they deserved when she laid that book on the table, all of em. Be Careful of who you mess with because sometimes they'll mess with you right back. This whole bringing out the book at the salon smacked of Jr. High bulling. Really, they had to publicise her past? No matter how tantalizing you'd have to be a complete jerk not to realize the pain bringing her past back up would cause never mind that she has kids and has moved on from that life. Is over 20 years not long enough to let this pass. It was done out of malicious intent and the table got what they deserved.

These NJ women are not very likable and act rather shallow, at least that's the way I see it. I don't want a second season of these people.

The most disturbing aspect of this show has been the behavior of Teresa's children. They appear to be beyond the uber brat state of being and the adults think it's cute

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Danielle doesn't realize... if she'd just shut up about it, the entire thing would have blown over. Instead, she keeps picking at it like a scab and it keeps bleeding.

Costa, ITA.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Maybe it's just me, but my take is yes, I'll keep picking at the scab until I feel I'm done. I could not in good conscious let someone maliciously bring up my sorted past in a public forum and let it go. For no other reason than maybe making them think twice about doing something like this again to someone else. I would NEVER tell my children to just let it be when someone does this sort of cruel immature thing. I'd say pick away till you feel it's done. What was the point of making the book known to any who would listen? I don't like Danielle, she kinda skeeves me out but that is not the point, the point is to dig into someones past 20 + years back and then spread the news, knowing full well it will cause pain and people thinking oh well just keep quiet and deal with it. These sisters/inlaws seem to think they can mess with peoples lives and pay no consequence.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I disagree Lil. Someone mentioned it on last night's show... if she had just come clean with them, and said "hey, I've got a past" it would've probably not mattered. But Danielle chose to hide it. She knew it would come up as soon as she showed her face on TV. She chose to ignore that, too. And then she's invited to a nice "housewarming" dinner, a nice gesture made by Teresa, and she came intending to cause a scene. Any sympathy I had for Danielle had, at that moment, completely evaporated. She showed zero class, zero tact, zero respect, and zero manners. She also seems to rewrite things as she sees fit. First she was arrested, then she wasn't, then she was? Really? And you expect us to believe anything you say after that? Sorry, 'nuff said. The woman is and acts like a whacko and I really think she needs professional help.

Personally, I like Caroline and Teresa and Dina. I like how close they are as a family, how caring they are for their family. Yes, they have a lot of money. But they almost make fun of themselves with it. I enjoy watching those three.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Danielle's sordid past (note the spelling) could have been easily refuted as soon as the book was originally published (in 1995) or when it was brought up recently. She never publicly said "yes I did this but no I did not do that" or "yes I did it all." She claims the book is about her, but the book is not about her, she's mentioned in the book. She claimed she wasn't arrested then she claimed she was.

I did not say she needed to keep quiet. She has brought it up over and over again. And over and over again. If she really wanted to stop it, she could have done it at a time and place more appropriate than someone else's elegant dinner party.

When people go on reality tv shows, they know their past is going to come out. They can choose whether they want fame or shame. Danielle chose this path. She knew that this book would be brought up and discussed. She chose it. I have zero sympathy or empathy for her.

And don't forget she changed her name. Was she ashamed of what she did or was she trying to hide it?

And yes, if I had children and someone I knew was accused of kidnapping a child, you damn well better be sure I'd want to know about it.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
According to her husband who wrote the book, she was arrested. I don't know how much jail time she got, but she did serve 5 years probation.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I guess I just see things differently. I cut friends and family slack for their past misdeeds and would never want them to share any sooner than they want and I'd go so far as to say I would protect them from others who are looking to out their past. My whole point is why go and dig. Live in the present and if someone wants to share their past they will at their time.

I'm not so sure that was a pleasant dinner to start considering all the talk of boobies, husbands wanting sex, top sex-bottom sex and meanwhile the kids were there. The oyster piece was silly the whole night seemed fake or like this is what they should be talking about for nothing else but TV ratings. Danielle's placing the book on the table was the most legitimate act of the night.

The dinner started out kinda strange , whose breasts are real or not. Danielle just kept it going by making her point and the icing on the cake is the throwing of the table.

The only positive thing I can say about NJHW is that the men all seemed rather "normal" especially in comparison to other seasons of Housewives men.

I'm looking forward to NY to start up again.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
It's not just her past that is scary about her. She is obsessed with Dina. She wants to BE her. This family had a right to check into this woman because they see how gullible and trusting Jacqueline is and this woman felt snubbed by Dina, so she went after her full force. This was all before the book. When the book was found, they were found to be right in that she has a past and it's not someone (from current and past behavior) they want to be friends with; nor do they want to be around her.

However, Jacqueline just can't seem to get it, so she keeps bringing her around.

I love Teresa. She's done..she did her part in trying to give Jacqueline's friend a chance and now she's done.

Costacat stated:
I haven't finished watching this yet but I can totally understand Teresa getting upset. She planned a lovely dinner, invited a guest who she knew she didn't really want but who was Jacqueline's friend, and the guest basically crapped on her dinner table.

Excellent way of putting it, Costa. Teresa is a good mother. She got her children out of that room; while Danielle let her's sit and listen to the whole thing. Those two little girls are being made by their mother to grow up too fast because she talks to them about inappropriate things. They aren't her friends; they are children.

Maybe if she got some counseling, she could make new friends and get off her fixation on Dina. Telling her children her woes is just wrong. The older daughter is actually the mother in that family.

Were the pics she was showing her children topless photos of herself? Is that why they were blurred?

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
In last nights show Caroline's friend who is also a dog lover was Bernard Kerik who was once the NYC Police Commissioner and was nominated by President G.W.Bush as Secy of Homeland Security but withdrew due to Nanny /immigration issues.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Sorry if this has already been posted, but this is a great blog of last night's show by Jill from RHWNY:

Queen of Accountability by Jill Zarin

ETA: Many others are blogging at this site as well. This from Teresa's blog:

I love my husband for being so supportive. I think in some crazy way he was turned on seeing that feisty side of me. He is the best. LOL!

She makes me laugh so much. She comes onscreen and I start giggling. She's so darn funny and cute.

Several of the peeps couldn't believe Chris saying Danielle was welcome in his home after all he'd heard, but they say he was just trying to make peace. I was confused as well.



Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Lil... everyone has past misdeeds or has done something they aren't proud of. But... how many have changed their names three times in the last 24 years?

Mistysmoke
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08-10-2001

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 9:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mistysmoke a private message Print Post    
well, my mom changed hers at least three times in the past 24 years (marriages and divorces), LOL.

I guess for me it just seems odd that these people seem to have some seedy history in their family but they are going to judge Danielle on this book. I think there is more to all of this than what has been seen.

I have to say that if I were being talked about by three people I don't know that I could confront them the way Danielle did. People may think it was wrong of her, but I wouldn't have the guts to confront them at once, they seem to have very strong personalities (would they be considered A type?) and I am more of a wallflower type person LOL.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Danielle did the confrontation only to get attention. She's a bad guest...period.

Jill Zarin made a good point in her blog. Danielle was wrong in telling Teresa to "Pay Attention." Obviously Danielle wasn't paying attention. She forgot the 3rd thing....stripping.

Chitchat58
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07-25-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chitchat58 a private message Print Post    
Why exactly does Jacqueline have to pick either her sister-in-laws or Danielle? I think Jacqueline is a big girl and should be able to hang out with whom ever she wants to. I don't understand that logic.
At the end of dinner Caroline said to Jacqueline that she was hurting their parents? I don't get that either, what do their parents have to do with any of this?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Yes, but Misty did your mother change her first name from Beverly to Angela to Danielle?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Chitchat, I believe it's because they see how naive Jacqueline is and how she is too trusting. Jacqueline says at one time she/husband and family lived in Caroline's house, as did Dina/Lexi. I'm sure they know Jaqueline pretty well.

Jacqueline admitted in her blog that she'd have lunch/dinner with the Devil if he asked. She's just that trusting. If she were in my family, I'd try to protect her as well. Every time Danielle is around, there is drama. It takes it's toll on people.

Sammi
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03-31-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammi a private message Print Post    
Danielle is waitig for a settlement from her xhusband, do u think maybe she put the book on the table for the world to see hoping that people would go out and buy the book so that her x-hubby would make more money. Just a thought I had as I was reading all the posts!

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Danielle is crazy and loves it. I would have mustered up some respect if she had taken the girls to lunch and brought the book out and said something like, you all know about it, lets talk about it. But she did it at the family party for nothing else than drama.

Of all the things crazy about her and her past, I really find the most disturbing how she seems to be obsessed with Dina. I think Dina had a lot to do with the book coming forward and I think Dina is proud of that. I wish she would have owned up to it more. I like Dina, I loved that she at least was straight forward and said she didn't like Danielle to her face.

Teresa is my favorite. But, that being said, I had to laugh and roll my eyes about the scene she made to get her kids out of the room (which she should have) when Danielle was going to talk but it was OK to talk about her sex life pretty openly and no kids needed to leave the room.

Reunion should be a fun one. I love how they now all "have" to be 2 nights. Gotta give it to Bravo for good reality drama.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I was thinking that maybe Caroline thought Jacqueline was hurting her parents by throwing them under the bus...

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
But, that being said, I had to laugh and roll my eyes about the scene she made to get her kids out of the room (which she should have) when Danielle was going to talk but it was OK to talk about her sex life pretty openly and no kids needed to leave the room.

Stacey, I felt the same sort of but then Jill from RHWNY pointed out that it seemed as if Teresa was trying to put Danielle at ease by talking about sex because that's all Danielle ever talked about when the ladies were previously together. Great point! Went right over my head, since I tend to ff through most of Danielle, as she is just too much of a drama queen victim. It seemed like she went on and on for 3 weeks of shows about breaking up with the 26-year-old, who didn't even like her that much anyway.

I'm thinking Teresa felt her daughters didn't 'get' what she was talking about; however, the older children might have.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
do u think maybe she put the book on the table for the world to see hoping that people would go out and buy the book so that her x-hubby would make more money.

The ex she is waiting on a settlement from is not the ex who wrote the book.The one who wrote the book is her ex-ex..LOL


Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
i dont know why the second part of my post is in italics..sorry..

The ex she is waiting on a settlement from is not the ex who wrote the book.The one who wrote the book is her ex-ex..LOL

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Danielle is waiting for a settlement from her SECOND husband. The book was written by her first husband (yeah, last night was the first time she confessed to being married twice).

I have no problem with people doing "misdeeds" in their past. I have a problem with people hiding it, not admitting to it when found out, and blaming everyone else but the person who did the misdeed (in this case, Danielle herself).

WRT the pictures, I don't know if they were naked shots or not but it's possible that they were copyrighted and the show didn't get (or bother to get) rights to show the pix. That said, however, if they were naked shots, I'm really stunned at how Danielle would just show off the pix to her children.

I really don't think Dina did what Danielle is accusing her of. And I don't think Caroline is covering for Dina. I think Caroline did bring the book around. She's the one that brought it over to show Dina in the first place. Danielle's fixation on Dina just borders on bizarre.

And both Jacqueline and Danielle saying "I heard" Dina showed the book around. Hello? Ladies, you didn't see it firsthand? Lovely to accuse someone who told you she didn't do it. You prefer to believe what you heard? Possibly second or third hand?