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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:43 pm
Prisoner, thanks for the info on the "reunion." 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:57 pm
Beth, go to www.seenon.com. You can sign up to shop the runway collection of the 3 finalists. And the person who posted that is right... ALL of Mondo's is sold out, but only ONE of Gretchen's is. And the reason why, I think is, if you go to projectrunway.auction.seeon.com and look at the auctions for all of the episodes... 90% of Gretchen's clothes sold at auction for less than $100, and quite a few sold for $50 or less. (Most of the other top 4 designers sold for consistently more than that, often in the $300 range). If you look at the prices they are asking for Gretchen's finale collection, and compare those prices to what people are willing to pay at auction, there's a HUGE discrepancy. (Personally, I wouldn't wear anything she designed if it was given to me but...) I just looked at her collection again and I wouldn't wear a single thing. I looked at Mondo's and I would wear every single item. And I would look damn good in them, too! So if PR wanted a designer who would sell clothes, the definitely picked the wrong designer to win.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 1:40 pm
I haven't commented much in this thread, mainly because I actually liked Gretchen's designs, but since so many people were against her, I decided to avoid the debate. I would definitely wear many of her fashions that she showed. Gretchen was critical of other people's designs...but I never saw her being critical of people on a personal level. In fact, I often saw her being very supportive of others on that level. Fashion is a matter of taste. What I like isn't necessarily what others will like. It's why there's more than one designer out there. And seriously, Pol Pot? With rhetoric like that, a reader tends to dismiss everything else that the person writes, no matter how valid their points might be.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 1:52 pm
Kel - you are absolutely right - fashion is a matter of taste. Just as the chosen winner is subjective. It was odd this season, as if they suddenly changed the judging criteria for the choice of a winner. I found things to like in Gretchen's designs but do feel Mondo was robbed, and also that Andy had some wow pieces. I was shocked at the outcome but even more shocked at what i just saw: trendy little boutique in a retail center near my house - not too expensive but always some fun new things on display. Often on weekends they hang an outfit outside and what I just saw looked like it was straight from Getchen's collection! lol
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 5:18 pm
Kel, I respect your opinion and it is nice to see someone say positive things about Gretchen. I do recognize that Gretchen had enough talent to be there to begin with but after watching each episode of the season, I found her to be extremely cruel in her comments of others not to mention a liar/gossip/sneak when necessary. She led the initial group-hatred of Michael C and kept it fed in the green room for quite awhile. For me, her clothes are too so-so to make up for any of that. Time will tell but I think she will go the way of Wendy Pepper. Actually, I was much more impressed with Wendy's original RW collection the I was of Gretchen's.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 9:03 pm
I also thought the judges were rather cruel in some of their critiques this season. The snarkiness and downright meanness at times wasn't necessary to get across their point. That being said, if a designer argued with them instead of listening, I thought it was their just reward if they got their attitude handed back to them. Was anyone else wondering if they had slept through a season and they were speaking of a different cast during the reunion? I think my jaw was just about on the ground when they said this was an exceptionially CARING CAST toward one another?!! HUH?!!! Didn't they just spend time letting Gretchen's good friend throw her under the bus in the previous segment??! From what they let me see, they were about the nastiest cast in sheer numbers than I had ever seen before. Maybe toward the end they were more decent toward one another, but for the majority of the season we saw cruel and nasty behavior toward other contestants. I guess I was just watching ANOTHER Project Runway. Oy!
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Ginger1218
Member
08-30-2001
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 9:12 pm
I have to apologize. It seems I was lied to by the guy in my office. I just got back from Florida, was there for the weekend. He had told me he knew who won, wouldn't say who, but that it wasn't Gretchen. I believed him. He is very involed in the fashion industry, so I believed him. I will never put another spoiler on here again. Sorry.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 9:24 pm
I don't think you should be too concerned about it Ginger. He appeared to be a reasonably reliable source and a spoiler is a spoiler. No one knows for certain which spoilers are accurate.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:13 pm
I have to say that I thought Mondo was an amazing designer. Some of his stuff I absolutely loved...some of it I thought what the heck was he thinking? We don't know what it's like to be in that pressure cooker...and then add editing onto that, and we get "reality" TV. I guess I tend to give a pass on the comments that are "product" related, versus the comments that are "personally" related. I also wonder sometimes how we, as mostly women, view others. Are we harsher on other women then we are on men. I remember one specific episode, when both Gretchen and Mondo "talked back" to Tim Gunn. I remember Gretchen being skewered for it, and Mondo being excused for it. Of course, that was watching from my own point of view, but I remember thinking at the time, why the double standard.
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:35 pm
No need to apologize Ginger! You can't help that you were lied to. I hope it doesn't deter you from posting possible spoilers in the future. Its up to the rest of us to decide to believe a spoiler or not. That's half the fun of reading spoilers, just to see how true they end up being.
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Debra
Member
11-20-2003
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 5:38 am
Ginger - no worries. You made me a very happy camper for awhile there, lol. To bad it turned out not to be true.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 7:07 am
Ginger, LOL it made the show more fun for me! I love when spoilers are wrong. Just tell your friend if he gives ya another wrong one a bunch of women are going to put a sewing needle in his ass
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 8:00 am
I agree,a spoiler is a spoiler and we can never be sure if we're being lead astray or if it's real. Unless someone watches on the show, it's always just been speculation if a spoiler was right or not. This isn't the first time nor will it be the last a spoiler wasn't accurate. We all should know by now that by now! There's been several times I've been thrilled the spoiler was wrong. 
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 9:40 am
ITA with the others Ginger - I thought from looking at the collections the spoiler was probablly correct - but I am glad it didnt pan out! 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 10:34 am
I decided to watch parts of the finale show (mostly cuz I wanted to see the "reunion", and watch the judges disagreeing). One thing stuck out... Michael Kors said "this is about finding the next great designer." I am betting the Kors is going to be eating his words by next season. Gretchen is NEVER going to be "the next great designer." I would NEVER wear anything of hers. And Mr. Kors? Please listen... I would wear Mondo's polka dot dress WITH THE SLEEVES. And I would look sensational in that dress, and I would get a zillion compliments. I would pay a lot of money for that dress. This finale was a farce. First they give Michael C a ration about his color story being all one tone. Then they award the grand prize to one of the other finalists who had absolutely no color in her collection at all. They give Andy a bunch of crap about his hard edginess earlier, and then they basically dismiss him when he went totally opposite (although I will say I didn't find his collection "soft" at all). In my opinion, based on what I saw, Mondo should have won, Andy should have come in second, and Gretchen third. ETA: Jessica Simpson's look was quite unfortunate. Her entire face was overbotoxed, she's gained too much weight to wear her hair slicked back like that, and whatever she was wearing looked like a glittery garbage sack. Her face, however, was most distracting. Girl, please back off the botox. It's not always a good thing.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 11:37 am
She was wearing, believe it or not, Michael Kors.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:02 pm

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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:17 pm
OMG that's hilarious!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 12:45 pm
hahahahahaha, Tishala, that somehow just seems appropriate. Ginger, don't worry about the spoiler, I am just so disappointed your friend was wrong. I will say that your spoiler did save me some time in that I taped the show and went about my business since I would be happy with either Andy or Mondo. So now I don't have to watch the tape, LOL.
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Babyruth
Member
07-19-2001
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:15 pm
Just watched the recording and am disgusted! How weird that this year they rewarded artless business acumen over artful design.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 1:17 pm
Hahaha, MK had an "off" night, for sure! The thing that surprises me the most is how PR shifted their criteria for this season, at least as it pertains to picking a winner. I just don't get it. Gretchen's collection had no wow, no punch, nothing that would make one sit up and say, "now that's fabulous!"
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Ginger1218
Member
08-30-2001
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 4:18 pm
I can't wait to see him in work tomorrow and find out what his story is. I was extremely disappointed. I disliked Gretchen a lot and feel she did not even deserve to be in the finals
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 4:28 pm
While I don't blame you one bit for passing along what you thought was good info, will you please smack your coworker upside the head for me? I was really excited to think that that woman wasn't gonna win, and so very disappointed to find out she did! (And I agree, I thought F3 should've been the 3 boyz, with her out at #4.)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 6:46 pm
Not your fault, Ginger!! Just let him know he got so many hopes up and we were all crushed.
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Starr
Member
07-09-2005
| Sunday, October 31, 2010 - 8:05 pm
Ditto - not your fault, Ginger. Your co-worker punked you and it just had a ripple effect! 
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