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Hermione69
Member
07-23-2002
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 1:46 pm
I loved the polka dot dress. Tisha, I read that blog earlier and it was really spot on, IMHO.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 2:30 pm
Ocean Island - very well said - thank you for posting! I agree. and I also thought about it, I think any one of the top 3 "deserved" to win - they got there for a reason, and I do think that Gretchen went through an interesting time on the show - she seems to be a very strong person, with strong opinions, and I think she will succeed - I also think Mondo and Andy will succeed - I think Santino and Austin have succeeded. Michael C I'm not so sure about.... but it will be interesting to have updates on the project runway designers - Also did anyone else notice how Bravo promoted their "Project Runway type show" during Project Runway?
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Whoami
Member
08-02-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 3:05 pm
My DVR is near capacity on recordings I need to get watched/deleted. I've just deleted the two-part finale of PR without watching it, now that I know who won. No sense sitting through 3 1/2 hours of drivel just to get ticked off at the end. At least it clears up space on my DVR!
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Ilovethecoach
Member
08-01-2006
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 3:21 pm
Jessica Simpson's blouse was unfortunate. And, I guess I am the only one in cyberspace that was happy with a Gretchen win. LOL! See y'all next season! 
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Funfit4life
Member
03-16-2006
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 3:36 pm
very disappointed with the choice this season. They picked the mean girl with the drab old lady shapeless clothing.. coming to a JC Penny near you, Gretchen.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 4:27 pm
Now see, I don't see Gretchen as really "succeeding" in the fashion industry.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 6:40 pm
I'm sorry, I don't even see Gretchen's clothes as belonging at a JCPenney. I just thought most of what she did was very unattractive and unflattering for anyone, regardless of their "level" of fashion. I think it's an insult to JCPenney and Kohl's to say they sell Gretchen-type clothes. I've disliked winners of the show before and still been able to acknowledge that they were good designers. Personality aside, I thought several other designers on the show were much better.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 6:47 pm
Costa, the "reunion" was about the first 20 minutes of the finale. Most of the designers didn't get to say a word, and Ivy, when Gretchen "cried" about being labeled the , rolled her eyes and called her fake. April got a shot in about Gretchen being supportive to people's faces and then trashing them in the confessional.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 7:28 pm
Absolutely appalled at Gretchen's win when I watched it today. They ousted Michael C. for using the same color - um, HELLO! Gretchen barely varied from animal brown prints. BLECH! Mondo was robbed, plain and simple. Would LOVE to know what Tim Gunn has to say about it.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 10:48 pm
I held off THIS LONG and finally couldn't stand it and looked to see who won. I fell asleep TWICE last night before the ending. I even made it through the runway show the 2nd time. I even saw them go back where they were going to start deliberation, and I fell asleep again. I figured Mondo probably won. The only possibility would have been Andy winning instead. Reading here that Gretchen won?!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME PROJECT RUNWAY?!! SERIOUSLY?!!!! I'm disgusted. I guess my psyche was protecting me by having me fall asleep before the actual judging. I am absolutely dumbfounded. DUMBFOUNDED I TELL YOU! Oh, and did I mention I'M DISGUSTED???!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:01 pm
What galls me, too, is that in a post interview Gretchen actually said she would win....like she had it in the bag. She is so full of herself. Always critiiquing others yet having difficulty when they critiqued her work. Ugh!!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, October 29, 2010 - 11:57 pm
I just got to watch the finale and I'm literally SICK. I sure don't see "now" in knowing she likes briefs instead of boxers. ICK. Watching, they all four eliminated Andy and then fought over Mondo vs Gretchen with Michael and Nina for Gretchen, Heidi and Jessica for Mondo.. It was painful to hear but I still had hope and then, blam. The winner? She should have been gone weeks ago.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:29 am
Did anyone else think Jessica S. looked kind of bad?? THat dress made her look big and I am sure she is not...
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:57 am
I didn't think Jessica looked her best either. Her dress wasn't flattering nor was the way she had her hair.
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 5:38 am
I watched the finale, and wasn't surprised Gretchen won. I quit watching about halfway through the season, but tuned in to see which train wreck would win. All these designers have their quirks, it's which one is more endearing to people. Anyway, my take on the judging division...I think the only thing Jessica and Heidi were arguing about was that polka dot evening gown. They loved it, Michael and Nina hated it. They didn't seem to truly push for any of Mondo's other designs, just that one, saying over and over that they'd buy it. They all said Gretchen's clothes were most wearable by everyday women (well, not this woman I thought they were dowdy...see I just aged myself) but neither could I see my fluffy self wearing any of those pencil thin creations by Mondo. They were nice to look at, sure, but not very wearable by the everyday woman. I think if Mondo had eliminated the pon poms on the shoes and in the hair he probably would have won. I honestly think what won it for Gretchen was that she listened to them on the hair/make-up and they all liked her jewelry and accessories. As for Jessica Simpson...she looked pregnant to me. Gained a lot of weight, hairstyle was not becoming at all....who knows.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 6:25 am
They were also pushing for the plaid strapless dress, the color blocked tunic, and the blouse in his first look. I'm as fluffy as the next girl, and if they were in my size, I would have worn several of his tops, especially the color blocked one. For some of his shorts, if they had been a longer skirt, I would wear that print, as well.
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 7:49 am
To me, Project Runway has NEVER been about what the every day woman can wear. If that were the case, Christian and half the past winners would have never won. I always think in terms of whether a starlet or Heidi could wear it. A few years ago, I saw a celeb at a concert wearing 4" heels and a variation of the depends panty. She looked like a walking joke and this woman was tall and thin. I just remember thinking that if this person couldn't pull it off, how can the average woman wear it? I will admit to being pleasantly surprised at about four of Gretchen's outfits but that was it and even then, it was mostly just the tops. I never wear brown and she doesn't make me want to change that. Now a few seasons ago, there was designer named Jillian(?) whose outfits I would have died to wear. She came in 2nd or 3rd. I wonder where she is these days?
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 8:16 am
Prisoner, all four of them liked the color-block tunic and that cute off the shoulder dress. Nina liked the blouse, Heidi didn't. All four thought the strapless dress cute. I felt they were too divided on Mondo and they all agreed that Gretchen's clothes were more commercial. I really think that's what pushed the vote her way. Either way, I admire them for being creative. I can't draw a straight line with a ruler.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 8:30 am
Hmm, I went looking for Tim Gunn's thoughts on the finale, and went to his FaceBook page "Tim Gunn: Official Page". He has been quiet there since the finale, but there's a string of comments from fans, including these two interesting tidbits: "I am beginning to wonder whether or not Lifetime has Tim under some sort of gag order...he's already stated CLEARLY that he thought the judges were smoking crack....and I am positive he has a very strong opinion about what happened last night...but just maybe he can't tell us yet...I SOOOOOOOOOOOOO WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE REALLY THINKS ABOUT IT Everything from Mondos site on seenon(???) is SOLD OUT EXCEPT the one outfit that Nina liked so much...Andy now has 3 things sold out and <100> Gretchen still only has one...I read the blogs ...on lifetime written by past contestants and they all seem to think that the judges made a HUGE MISTAKE....well if they did this so soon so they could see whose clothes would actually sell..as someone else said earlier the clothes have never been on sale the day after the finale.....they got MUD IN THEIR FACES...MONDO PROVED WHOSE CLOTHES WILL SELL AND SELL QUICKLY.." (end of quotes) Does anyone know what website the person was referring to where the items are on sale? Has anyone else seen anything in print where Tim Gunn gives his opinion on the finale?
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 8:35 am
Wow. You can see clothes just like Gretchen's any day. Just go to JC Penney, Target, Sears, etc. This show used to be about fashion, not the drab crap they sell to us, the masses. Gretchen's not going to go as far as Christian or Chloe; or even Santino, Austin, and the other memorable losers. Her esthetic is too drab. I'll give next season of PR a try, but it seems like they've killed it.
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Kellsma
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 8:46 am
If I remember correctly, didn't they say Emilio last year was too commercial, actually too ready and that is why he did not win. It seems completely opposite this year. The biggest difference for me is that I liked Emilio's clothes and can't stand Gretchens. Am I remembering this correctly. Funny point, my DVR acted up and erased some shows from Thursday and PR was one of them and now knowing the outcome I don't know if I really want to find it again and watch.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 9:23 am
I cannot imagine that Target, Sears, JCPenney sell granny panties as outerwear....
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 10:44 am
I finally watched my recording. I am like the majority, disgusted and shocked. Totally shocked. Gretchen should have been eliminated weeks ago. What a waste. I find her clothes really ugly. Whomever said they make thin models' hips look huge and their butts look flat, is totally right. Like it's been said, this show is about high fashion, not that stuff Gretchen put out there.
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 11:16 am
Sorry. Seamonkey, you're right. GPs are not supposed to be outerwear. I went to the Lifetime site and had to dig around to find the PR comments part. The viewers' comments there are scathing. PR may have jumped the shark.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, October 30, 2010 - 12:31 pm
Another article http://www.clydefitchreport.com/2010/10/on-wretched-gretchen-and-the-finale-of-project-runway/ On Wretched Gretchen and the Finale of ‘Project Runway’ Friday, October 29, 2010 "All I can hear is my own greatness!" If it’s true that American Idol desperately needed a tuneup (like Steven Tyler cares what Kid Rock thinks?), then it must also be true that Project Runway probably needs an overhaul. Thursday’s final-winner reveal makes the case clearer than ever. Gretchen Jones won? Talk about someone spinning dross from gold. OK, this is TV, not a discussion of nuclear waste or how to intercept terrorism or Sharron Angle’s white-woman racism. But I’m a confirmed Runway fan — and this year you may consider my sadness/fury/revulsion to be duly registered. The wrong person won. I mean, I’ve hitched my stitches to the show through the years — during its imbecilic jaunt to La La Land (has anyone ever looked less comfortable in LA than Tim Gunn?), even during those seasons that pomposity cases like Christian Siriano took all the marbles. But Gretchen Jones? Lord, let us pray. May we please just get the Apocalypse over with? My problem with Jones winning is partly that, yes, the woman came off as so hateful — not to mention treacherous, sneaky, snappy, snarky and underhanded. She was the Pol Pot of Season 8. I do understand that Project Runway is a competition, and that some of us on this difficult and crowded planet simply can’t compete unless their trigger-finger is on a nuclear device every 20 minutes. In Jones’ case, if there was at least some coherent talent there — real talent, a sense of individuality, something beyond the mercenary and the cunning — then maybe I could overlook her unpleasantness. An even bigger issue, though, is that the extraordinary debating marathon that raged the Hundred Years War between the Project Runway judges — Heidi Klum and guest Jessica Simpson, favoring Mondo Guerra; and Nina Garcia and Michael Kors jonesing for Jones — actually told us more about the judges, about the serious challenges facing the show, than about the designers themselves. Maybe I know nothing about fashion. Maybe I should stick to calling out Rethuglicans for ruthlessly destroying our country. But watching Project Runway on Thursday night, watching Kors yabber on and on and on about what’s hip, hot and happening right now, listening to the man kvetch, whine and moan about Guerra’s clothing being “too young” when Kors himself is a patently over-bronzed and tubby 51, made me wonder if a generation gap is starting to brew on the show – if a generation gap is already in evidence. Does that sound ageist? You bet your bippy it does. I realize perfectly well that age has nothing to do with the ability to identify and promote that which is fashion-forward. But something about the judges’ blather this year, especially everyone asserting the better knowledge of what is young and trendy right now, made me think to myself, “Hey, Nina, you’re 43!” and “Hey, Heidi, you’re 37!” I shouldn’t even be thinking in those terms, right? Why did it feel with all the judges like the lady doth protest too much? Perhaps the seeds of doubt were planted throughout the season, and were ripe for picking. After all, it was more glaring than ever this year that the judges are as inconsistent in their tastes, standards, demands, reviews and expectations as Christine O’Donnell’s claims of being chaste (sorry, I mean, chased). Kors, Klum and Garcia were, more often than not, beyond inchoate: “We want this and now we want that” one week became “We want that and now we want this” the next. They were whimsical, fickle, tempestuous, amorphous, contradictory and impossible. No wonder half the contestants on this year’s Project Runway looked like they wanted to slug someone. If Lifetime wants to produce reality-TV shows about King Henry VIII, Catherine the Great and Margaret Thatcher, let them at least be up front about it. (You can draw which judge parallels which tyrant any way you want.) The press release announcing Jones as the winner of Season 8 included this copy: Narrowly beating out fellow designers Mondo Guerra and Andy South, Jones ultimately won with her bohemian inspired, fashion-forward collection that won the praise of host Heidi Klum, judges Michael Kors, Nina Garcia, and guest judge, Jessica Simpson. There isn’t much spin in a centrifuge. What happened was Klum and Simpson went to bat for the superior Guerra and ultimately caved to Kors and Garcia. Why I’ll never know. Maybe because the producers demanded a lowest-common-denominator winner? Sorry, Mondo. But as Adam Lambert learned, it’s probably better to be a runner-up on one of these programs than to win.
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