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Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I agree OG. I don't think either of them was ready to start college at a 4 year university living away from home. They didn't even study for their SATs until the night before the test! They did not show the viewers that they were very college minded at all. (Nothing wrong with that at all. Plenty of older teens are just not ready.)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i admire the mormons for having their kids go on a year of mission work between high school and college. i think 18 is awfully young to know what you want to be when you grow up.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Their grades are probably not the best, which would reflect the need for Community College.
I saw a repeat the other day where the family did charity work for families in Louisiana. Amy felt it was the best for them to learn to care about others. I like her a lot for that alone!
A lot of couples have separate bedrooms. This is true where one of them is a loud snorer. It doesnt meant they don't "visit" each other..LOL

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Had to banish DH to a separate bedroom over 2 years ago if I ever wanted to sleep again. It wasn't for snoring as much as it was shaking his leg every 20 seconds all night long. And, no, that isn't restless leg syndrome.

March
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10-02-2003

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send March a private message Print Post    
What is going on with this family this season?
Amy - bitter much? Holy cow, she has always talked down to Matt but seems to have gone into overdrive this season.
Zach complaining about Matt only spending 2 weeks with the family during their 5 week vacation. HELLO??? How many people that own their own businesses can take 5 weeks off. None that I know of. We own our own business and we think we are real lucky if we get a whole weekend off. Can't imagine trying for 5 weeks. Things were going wrong on the farm that he had to deal with. Doesn;t matter how many people you leave in charge there are certain things that only the owner can deal with.
Zach also said something about his father just being a salesman and using a selling speech to get everyone to do what he wanted (something like that don't remember exact words), yet who was doing quite the sales speech on Molly and convenienced her she didn't want to go.
And Amy couldn't believe she was basically encouraging the kids not go to on the trip. The high fives when they said they weren't going, and smiling about it. What was she doing booking a speaking engagement during their Spring Break anyways. You would think she would want to spend the boys last spring break with them, since she is all about the kids.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
Amy was trying to talk her daughter into staying home

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
You said what I was thinking March. These last episodes just seemed so odd. I was wondering too why Amy would agree to a speaking engagement during spring break? Seems like her timing was the one that was off.

Zach has always seemed very stubborn and immature to me, so his behavior didn't surprise me. His brooding and poutiness really are a turn off at times.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I'm convinced TLC is trying to ruin this family. UGH

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Or maybe just showing a normal family. Amy isn't obsessive about the house, but it doesn't mean she's not a good mother.
I don't know what house doesn't have bickering or the kids room isn't messy. As a parent you pick your battles. I'd rather have a good kid with great values than one who has the perfect room all the time. Yes, I know many parents stress the clean room. I figure with my daughter it's her space. I can't say I don't get after her to clean it, but I don't stress about it.


Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
The messy house has never bothered me. But it did bother me that she seemed to take pleasure in the kids deciding not to go on Matt's trip. I understand that she was hurt the trip would go on without her, and maybe even mad at Matt for not communicating better. But to pass up that opportunity? I don't know -- maybe it makes for a better "show" to have the family break off into two different experiences.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Amy and Matt didn't do the kids any favors not instilling any sort of self sufficiency in cleanliness or tidiness. They are too old to be such slobs and to live in the filth that was in that kitchen. It boggles the mind. It's a bit odd that Zach and his sister wanted to stay home to support their mom but they have such little respect for her as to not even run the dish washer or clean up after themselves? Amy seems to be ok with the kids dumpin all th ouse work o er, they do it all the time. Those kids aren't ready for college or the world yet. The wins barely made it through high school. I remember all those days that Amy had to wrestle them out of bed...no way can they make it on their own. I know Amy loves the kids but she really dropped the ball by becoming their personal maid. They now are so far behind others in knowing how to take basic care of themselves.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I think they know more than they admit. I bet if she left them alone, they'd know how to do what needed to be done.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Preach Lilfair preach !

I do not understand how the Roloff kids can be so disrespectful to their parents. First of all who likes looking at that mess and especially with the beautiful home they have been provided ? Bottom line the parents should have trained them better; they did not do them any favor but not instilling a sense of responsibility.
They obviously are bright kids and even Jacob should have minimal chores.
With Matt's health Amy may need their help sooner than later.
No OCD here but I am a neat freak and no I don't have any kids; but you best believe that if I had kids and that house I would not tolerate messiness !

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree Twiggy. The boys will learn to do for themselves when it's no longer being done for them. They'd be able to handle it. They'd soon figure out when they ran out of clean clothes and dishes it's because they didn't wash anything. What the really need is a dose of living on their own and having to make their own way. It would wake them up pretty quick. LOL.

Amy's not a neat freak, so I don't think the mess bothers her like it would bother a neat freak. Of course someone who's really into neatness will train their kids from day one. Someone's who's messy and lives in clutter likely will not. How messy her kids will be when they have places of their own remains to be seen. Some will probably be messy like her. Some will probably be neater as they were bothered by the mess at home and vow to be different.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
"I think they know more than they admit. I bet if she left them alone, they'd know how to do what needed to be done."

They were left alone and didn't even tun the dishwasher. Come on...who does that? Everyone knows better, sure but that doesn't mean they know how or are willing to even if they had their own place. I'm mot a neat freak but in my house we all pick up after ourselves. And if someone is left home alone while others are out making money you better believe that when they come home they won't ave to step over a mess, run a dishwaser or put crap away. I like ths famiy but honestly it boggles my mind at how the kids do absolutely nothing as far as normal everyday picking up after themselves and Amy seems fine about it. It's not cute or funny or even right to refuse to pull your own weight. It really bothers me and I feel bad for Amy but of course she doesn't seem to mind.

March
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10-02-2003

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send March a private message Print Post    
The miscommunication or non-communication between these two happens from both of them. Amy was mad at Matt for booking the trip when she had already booked a speaking engagement BUT she seems to have forgotten booking a cruise a couple of seasons ago during the first week of pumpkin season without discussing it with Matt. She insisted at the time that the dates could not be changed. Matt did go on the trip and of course there were problems at the farm. that was the time his parents quit over conflict with the woman Matt left in charge.

Jeremy seems to be the one that gets that his dads health is not great and that he may not be able to do things with him for much longer so do things while you can.

I always liked watching this family as they always seemed so much more real and somewhat normal than others. But the rudeness and disrespect seems to have gone to a new level this season and it is not fun to watch. Hope they can get things straightened out.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
DS was a first-class slob as a kid. As a grown man he is a total neat-freak...a place for everything and everything in its place. He washes his truck once a week...all year long. You could eat dinner off the hood. Just proves you never know how a kid is going to turn out in that respect.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Ophiliasgrandma, there are exceptions to every rule and your son is that exception. I'm happy that your son turned the corner and decided to take care of himself and his stuff. I don't know how people in general allow there kids to be slobs and continually let them to expect mom or dad to clean after them when they are fully capable to do it for themselves. I couldn't be my children's maid like Amy is for her brood. I couldn't do it, I'd feel too disrespected. But that's just me.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 4:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I used to tell dh that he should sell tickets for his mother's morning routine, it was so over the top. DH would get out of bed and go to bathroom, when he got back to his room his bed was made. He would take shower, dropping wet towels, etc on floor and go back to bedroom to get dressed. By the time he got back to the bathroom it had been cleaned/polished with towels hanging up. He would go upstairs to find breakfast on the table, he would eat and leave his dishes and just walk out the door. He could go days without even seeing his mother, she was like some invisible gremlin following him (and other siblings!!) around, cleaning after them. Every single day she would vacuum behind furniture, clean every bathroom floor to ceiling even if no-one had used it the day before. When we married I was really worried that we would have issues with him expecting me to treat him like his mother or wanting our home to be a museum. But he never did, as soon as mom wasn't around he just did for himself. Same with his siblings. He says he was always aware that she overdid and it wasn't the norm. My concern with the Roloff kids is more that they are told to clean and then don't with no real consequences. Perhaps that is the difference in outcomes?

ETA: I am with you Lil. My dd's can be slobs in their own rooms unless they smell :-) but I expect them to have respect for the rest of our home and clean up after themselves.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 6:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I agree Amy isn't a neat freak, but it doesn't make her a bad person. I think she has other priorities. There are people who will judge her based on the condition of the house, but I think there is more to her than that.
The kids are taught to build, farm, and work the pumpkin festival. They are encouraged to help when there are projects. They aren't like some kids who totally live thier lives playing video games. These kids are probably more self sufficient than what is portrayed and more than what people give them credit for being.
It's not fair to say they aren't taught anything. I totally disagree.
Plus, they were sent to private school. I can tell you from experience, it is a harder curriculum with a strict discipline. (My daughter went to 10 years of strict private school). The kids do know what to do when the time comes.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
The kitchen full of dirty dishes would not have been so pronounced had Amy not returned home to a messy kitchen..........

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree Twiggy. I think the kids are learning a lot of skill helping run and fix up that farm, skills that your average kid isn't learning. Those skills will likely benefit them more than making a bed or running a dishwasher.

I think there's a neatness gene and I lack it. Looking at DD's desk at school this morning, it's obvious she lacks it as well! Even I was apalled at what a mess it was. We try to work on organizational skills with her. I'm hoping they improve a bit as she matures.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Actually the writer of this blog that Lilfair posted about where they twins might be going to school, opines that there are calculated reasons for many things that may puzzle us about their actions on the show but also suggests that BEING ON THE SHOW is a job for each family member.. and I would be interested to know if some of the money they take in from TLC is being put away for each child? As the writer says, having the twins near home and still involved in the show may just be "good business" in Matt's opinion. And if the writer is correct, the family gets massive amounts of freebies in conjunction with the show.

So if Zach and Jeremy consider being on the show as their job, then perhaps that is their contribution to the family, along with whatever Matt gets them involved in doing on the farm and Amy's job is cleaning up.

Probably not the best preparation for life after the show, but..

http://spiritswander.blogspot.com/2009/08/zach-and-jeremy-roloff-college-plansthe.html


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Monday, August 17, 2009
Zach and Jeremy Roloff college plans...the buzz is in
The most asked about question in recent months about Little People, Big World and the Roloffs is will Jeremy and Zach Roloff go to college and if so, where?




Several different people with different associations to the Roloffs or the show have informed the blog what they believe is happening. We've received enough of the same story that we can finally pass along some possible answers to all the inquiries fans have about the college question. But first, let's build the anticipation ;-)

We maintain this blog for you the fans and people interested in LPBW and the Roloffs. So we will pass along some of the buzz. First, with anything such as a person's future plans, things can change, there are several different paths a person can choose and they can mull over different options and a person can always change their mind. Just because one scenario does not come to be the one that is chosen, doesn't necessarily mean it was false. So we will go back several months and share with you some of the rumblings that have been going on.

As you know if you follow this blog, Amy has flip-flopped a few times when publicly speaking about if Jeremy and Zach would be attending college. Late in 2008 she said she hoped they would go to college, but she wasn't sure if that was going to happen. However, at other times she said they would definitely be going to college. Her bio's for the twins on her official website says "college it will be". When speaking in Kentucky last summer both Jeremy and Zach told a crowd they wanted to go to college. On the show, viewers heard Zach whispering to Molly that Jeremy said he wasn't going.

So on with the rumblings: Going back several months, there were rumors and stories coming out, strong feelings among some people in the know that Jeremy Roloff was going to 'Go Hollywood'. That Jeremy was seriously considering moving to California this year to pursue a modelling career. Publicly, in a controlled "interview" with his dad's employee (because Jeremy doesn't speak publicly truly on his own), Jeremy said he was open to modelling as a career and would be happy with whatever God steers his way. School pals of Jeremy informed the blog that he had talked about the modelling, but they weren't sure if he was serious or if that was really going to happen, they didn't think anyone, even Jeremy knew what he was going to do post-graduation - as of a couple of months before graduation.

With Zach, the blog has heard some conflicting theories. Several months ago, someone in the know, said they believed Zach was not going to college this year and would be home at the farm all year to do the show -- although it probably wouldn't be presented like that, because LPBW doesn't acknowledge the show on the show and having the 19 year old kids not do anything after high school except the reality show doesn't fit with the whole concept they're trying to present the show as - a real family just living their lives.

Others said Zach was always definitely going to college. Perhaps the most surprising story floated around was that Zach would attend a college in Utah. It's hard to envision Zach moving out of state for college. Yet it does make the Roloffs trip after graduation in June to Utah intriguing.

There has been the Roloffs tours of different colleges in 2009 with the TLC crew. They've toured Corban College. They've been to Portland State University. We've heard a few rumors about the University of Portland and Western Oregon University.

But now the blog has heard from so many different people in various positions with the same story that we'll pass it along. Of course, you'll have to wait and see if this turns out to be accurate, but this is the speculated (I would say, very informed speculation ;-) answer to the big question, where is Jeremy and Zach going to college?

Drumroll please?.........

Several people have told the blog they believe the answer is Portland Community College.

http://www.pcc.edu/

This will come as good news to fans of the show who worried that the show would change drastically if Jeremy and Zach went to college away from home and would limit their time on the show.

From the 'word on the street' (*wink wink* ), essentially, nothing is changing in that regard. Portland Community College has a campus that is actually closer to Roloff Farms than Faith Bible High School was. PCC is only only about 10 minutes away (maybe even less for the Roloffs, given their penchant for speed when driving ;-)). PCC has three different campuses. One campus is about 25 minutes away, another as mentioned, about 10 minutes from Roloff Farm.

It also is looking like the DBU (the name they gave the core group of Jeremy and Zach's friends that are often seen on the show) are simply moving their headquarters from Faith Bible High to PCC. Only one of the Roloff close friends that fans know from the show will be going to a four-year University. The majority of their good friends will apparently be joining Jeremy and Zach at PCC, including other Faith Bible classmates who fans aren't as familiar with as well as some other life long friends of the twins who attended elementary school with them, but different high schools.

So it basically sounds like it will be one big reunion of Jeremy and Zach's friends, just in a different a college setting, Portland Community College instead of high school.

For the show's future, this of course is the ideal situation. Given the flexibility of some of the course schedules of some Community College and given how close it is from Roloff Farm, any worries about how the show would be affected with college won't materialize.

Don't be surprised however if this is presented as possibly being temporary and there is a business reason for that. First it should be mentioned that several credits at PCC are transferable to other colleges and universities, so there is some substance to that. However, as mentioned, this is ideal situation for the show. Their college plans 'just happen' to fit perfectly with continuing the show.

Matt is a business man and knows it is never smart to lay all your cards out on the table. That's why every season since the 2nd season, Matt Roloff has publicly stated that the family is thinking they might call it quits and they might choose to end it at any minute, yet 3 consecutive times they re-sign for more seasons. They always want to leave the threat floating out there that things could change and they won't do the show. Not only for contract negotiation reasons, but they don't want to be caught with their pants down. I doubt Matt Roloff would ever allow it to look as though the family is banking on the show and then have it end and have a perception that it wasn't them that ended it. By the way, we will have another item on this later, but in terms of popularity, signs are pointing that the show is in very good standing. I think Little People, Big World and interest in the Roloffs continues to get even more popular, however I suppose the fall ratings will prove that prediction right or wrong.

However, personally, I don't think some fans fully understand the magnitude of how the show benefits the Roloffs every day of their lives. Sure fans see the huge remodel and the vacations, but it's every aspect of their lives down to the little things. People who have worked on the farm have reported that you can't quite imagine what the farm is really like, there are Polaris Rangers all over the place. They drive to one area of the farm and there is another already sitting there. The barns are full of all the equipment and toys that would be the stereotypical man's dream. People report that all those materials are all provided and paid for by the show, Matt only needs to pay for the labor.

The kids of course don't have typical jobs. Their 'jobs', 3 teenagers, is what you see of them on the show. Hanging with friends, playing soccer, getting VIP tours and treatment and travelling to great places. The kids have times where they sit around bored like other teenagers, playing video games and the like. When they want to do something, they do whatever they want - cost and availability is no object. If they want to go to a Portland Timbers or Seattle Sounders soccers game, they go free of cost to them and they receive VIP treatment. Events such as 'Dew Tours' a BMX, biking, boarding event that is popular with teenagers right now, if they want to go to that they can go free of cost. If the Roloffs want to take a quick trip somewhere (not only the big elaborate trips that make for episodes) with a friend, they're able to do it. It's not even with the material things like that, the crew is not just the 'crew', they're some of the Roloffs best friends. If the show were to end, all of that would change. The Roloffs entire life that they love would, in time, change drastically if the show were to end.


I don't say any of this as a criticism because as stated previously, LPBW is a successful show and the Roloffs deserve the rewards. My only criticism in this regard is because I do believe once you fully comprehend how they benefit from the fan support every day of their lives, that is very off-putting and shows a lack of character to shun the fans all of the time as the Roloffs do - I honestly can't imagine having my daily life full of perks every day and every whim I have made real because fans support the show and have the level of disregard for the fan base that the Roloffs show with their lack of action. No one in the Roloffs position ever admits that they get big heads once they receive the fame, power and money from their celebrity and forget why it all came about, but hey, it happens.


However, once you realize how almost every aspect of the Roloffs lives revolves around the power of the benefits they have from the show, the more you realize how unrealistic it would be for the Roloffs to make any life decisions that would jeopardize the future of the show. Thus, Jeremy and Zach going to college at the local community college 10 minutes from the farm which enables the show to continue as before is not a surprising turn of events. It *just happens* to be the best thing for the future of the show, but don't expect it to be presented that way.


So the show will continue as did before. Jeremy and Zach can still live at home, just around the corner from the college. They'll still be surrounded by most of their buds, except one familiar to fans (don't worry Jacob Mueller supporters, it's not Mueller, nothing expected to change there, he will still be ever-present by Jeremy's side). And Jeremy and Zach will be continuing their education...at PCC.

The Roloffs Fall newsletter should be coming out any day, so it will be interesting to see how everything is presented.

Tmagicsaq
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03-26-2004

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tmagicsaq a private message Print Post    
I dont care so much about the mess, i dont live there. What got me was that the table was burned!
Burned... that is just way over the top.. and to just let that go? A fire could have started... with matt and his condition; well with anyone no matter how they are.. someone could have been hurt or killed... not to mention that nice house would have been gone.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Friday, November 06, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
What's the big deal with everyone if the boys go to college or not? <confused>