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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:02 am
No, I recorded it.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:16 am
I missed it, but am recording it today @ 1:30 CT. Wow, there was some tension in the Vicki/Jeana scene when Jeana went next door and asked Vicki why she hadn't been calling her. Terolyn, were they truthful in the interview or were they polite and lied?
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 10:16 am
I didnt see it. Came on too late. I don't get the Jeanna hate. Is she really that bad. Did she totally screw Vicki over or something? She seems the only one with a bit of sense, but since I only started watching recently I think I am missing something.
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Funfit4life
Member
03-16-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 10:31 am
I don't the get the Jeanna hate either. She and Vicki had a problem with a rental property. One of Jeanna's friends moved into Vicki's rental and was a bad tenant. Vicki felt betrayed by Jeanna because she didn't correct the situation and she stayed friends with the guy. IMO Vicki is very often quite immature. She likes people to rally around her and follow her like she's the 2nd grade bully. (although some 2nd graders could be rightfully offended by the comparison) Vicki is very very insecure which I think explains her constantly obnoxious and distasteful behaviour and attitude.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 10:37 am
I don't get the Jeanna hate either. Vicki is a serious control freak and I think part of the problem was that Jeanna wouldn't bow down to Vicki when all that stuff about Vicki's rental came up. They just seemed to kind of be on the outs since then. I have to give Jeanna kudos (although I've not finished watching this week's episode). There is way too much drama amongst these "women" (and I use that word VERY loosely). Tamra thinking she's done nothing wrong? Really? Jeanna hit the nail on the head when she said that no one was the judge and jury of them all. I don't understand what business it is of Tamra's what anyone else does. I think Jeanna is good riddance of that group, to be honest. There are some real toxic personalities in that group. Kudos to her for stepping up and stepping away. Seems this season is really fractured. There will be few opps where the women all get together. Any such occasions will be forced by the producers, most likely. And paid for by 'em.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:35 am
I am glad that Jenna is losing her dysfunctional friends; in particular Vicky and Tamra. She is doing the right and health thing by walking away. When I hear Vicky's comments I keep wondering if something has happened that we viewers are unaware of as I just don't get why she is seen as a person who brings in drama.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:06 pm
I don't think Jeanna "brought in" drama. I think she responded to the drama brought in by others, in a way that the others didn't like. When Jeanna called out Tamra on being so evil towards Gretchen, Tamra started saying Jeanna causes drama. When Jeanna refused to play Vicki's game, Vicki said the same thing.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:49 pm
I don't get the Jeanna hate. Is she really that bad. Did she totally screw Vicki over or something? What Jeana hate? She got upset with Vicki because she asked to borrow money and Vicki said no. Jeana then got upset with Vicki, but of course on the show it was like Vicki was upset with Jeana. When Jeana was selling Vicki's property or renting it; she rented it to a fan of the show who wasn't responsible and then she let Slade move in. I don't think the fan ever paid rent. She didn't have the right to do that; it wasn't her property. I watched the interview..it was okay, but when asked why she was leaving, Jeana said she was dating and didn't want the cameras following her. That was different from what she said on the show last night. She kept saying she was tired of 'mean' girls. Some of the women said Jeana was a s**t stirrer. Marameko, more than Vicki have said the drama thing about Jeana. Just watching her with her husband and their problems, I can see where she would sit back and start things and then it's the other person's fault. She's never taken resposibility for what that guy did to Vicki's house or the fact she let Slade move in without even asking/notifying Vicki. When it was mentioned on the show she turned her head away from Vicki and put her hand up as if to say, "Pss shaw..that was nothing..not my fault" yet the story she tells is that she needed money and Vicki wasn't there for her and she couldn't imagine why. She did say in the post show interview that several people called and offered her money. Vicki says, "You didn't take it did you" to which Jeana replied, "Sure I did." It seems like she just has no idea of how to stand on her own two feet and since she admits she's horrible at handling money, she just thinks it's okay to have people standing by to help her out when the money's gone. That's where she and Vicki butt heads...polar opposites. Jeana loves playing the victim and she just couldn't take those mean women any more, when in reality, she doesn't want the cameras following her and her new boyfriend. I had to laugh when the audience judged the women on a scale of 1-10. They gave Vicki a '6' and she said, "That's fine." Later in the show, it was revealed they gave Jeana a '6' as well, and she said, "That's all?" What?? Does she really think she's all that? She went on to say she was the star of the show, since Scott made the whole show based on her life.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:27 pm
I had to laugh when the audience judged the women on a scale of 1-10. They gave Vicki a '6' and she said, "That's fine." Later in the show, it was revealed they gave Jeana a '6' as well, and she said, "That's all?" What?? Does she really think she's all that? It wasn't the audience. It was some iphone app that reads your scanned photo and judges you. Andy got a 2.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:30 pm
She went on to say she was the star of the show, since Scott made the whole show based on her life. Actually, Scott Dunlap did make the show around Jeanna. They were neighbors and friends, and one day when he was there and things were chaotic with her and her friends and family, he said he should make a show about it...and he did. Thus, a franchise was born.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:40 pm
Right, Beekind, I thought I had heard that before, but I just thought it was funny how she said it in response to someone twittering to the show that Vicki thought she ran the neighborhod, lol. Does Scott still live in the neighborhood? Is he ever shown on TV? The show may have started out being about Jeana, and I did like her and Vicki's friendship the first year, but it seemed like the newbies' personalities were so strong, Jeana kind of faded into the background. I do hope they can retain some sort of friendship, as they did seem to have some laughs together in the past and they are neigbors. Beekind stated: It was some iphone app that reads your scanned photo and judges you. Andy got a 2. I've never heard of this 'iphone app.' A computer judges your photo, not people?
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:05 pm
Cricket...Scott has been in the background of some of the parties. LOL I don't recall specifics, though, but if I notice him, I'll take note of the episode and tell you about it here. The first season, it was Jeanna, Vicki (who is was also neighbors and friendly with Scott), Lauri (who worked for Vicki and so was brought in through that relationship), Jo (because Slade was also friends with Jeanna. Remember Jo meeting the girls in the patio of the little Mexican restaurant out in the canyon, with her great big diamond on...that Jeanna helped Slade get?) and Kimberly, who had recently purchased a property thru Jeanna. So, the show has morphed over time, but the genesis of it came from Jeanna, and Jeanna's lifestyle and friends. Jeanna and Mark have lived in Coto for some time, and were considered a staple (as in "THE" people to know in Coto) at that time. Tammy Knickerbocker was also good friends with Jeanna. The Knickerbockers had the biggest, bestiest house in Coto. It really was quite a place. When I knew Tammy, all of our kids went to the little canyon school. (The only elementary school out in this, then, rural area) Tammy and Lou's girls were delivered to the school way back then (I'd say 1989-ish) in a limousine. The women from this show were always generous with money donations to the little canyon school back in those days, but stingy with their time and personal involvement. Tamara, Lauri, Lynne, Gretchen and this new girl didn't live in Coto. Lauri may have, with her first husband. I never knew her. But Lynne and the new girl live in entirely different areas and Tamara lives in a relatively new sub-developement way outside of Coto...and outside of the canyons. And Gretchen (and Slade) currently live way down in Irvine, which is also not all that close to Coto. I think Gretchen and her fiance, who passed, may have been looking for houses with Jeanna as their realator, and Jeanna may have suggested them to Scott. One "fun" fact about Coto...they have license plate frames that read: Cote de Caza: Life Never Looked So Good LOL! .................... I think (don't know for sure) that the app does the thing where the computery-gizmo-thingy rates you based on the points of your face. Such as, if the eyes are spaced a certain distance, the symmetry is right, the mouth is the right fullness, etc. I just wanted you to know that it was some phone app, not the audience, that judged the numbers based on appearance. Jeanna won the audience participation question (Who would you rather be neighbors with, borrow a cup of sugar from?) by a vote of 96% to 4%.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 7:24 am
I saw the Andy Cohen show and cracked up at the 96% to 4%! I also was still not impressed with Vicki, who seems to be in a constant state of denial. Bee, you've got a good memory. What was the name of the cougar who was on the show a couple of seasons ago? She was on only one season. She also wasn't a resident of Coto.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 7:49 am
Way back there I had posted about a friend carrying her marriage certificate. It wasn't because she was married but so that she could drink with her husband. Sorry for not being more clear.
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 8:56 am
Quinn her "storyline" seemed forced that season. probably why she only did it 1 season
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:08 am
Yep. Oregonguy is right. Quinn Fry. She lived in San Clemente. I forgot all about her. LOL Booorrrriiinnnngggg! (She was at that fashion shopping extravaganza Jeanna had at her house, though, after leaving the show. She could be seen in the background, shopping and sipping)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:35 am
Yes, thank you! Quinn! That was a storyline that was a massive failure. She wasn't really a likable person, seemed too intent on bagging a younger man (with money), and barely lived in the OC! That said, I think ALL of their storylines seem forced this season. All the whinging about not having money. In this day and age, we're all cutting back. I think the over-the-top excesses that this show (the OC) always portrayed are inappropriate right now anyways. However, I will say I love La Perla lingerie! They do have some of the sexiest stuff around.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 11:46 am
Carlpsmom stated: Way back there I had posted about a friend carrying her marriage certificate. It wasn't because she was married but so that she could drink with her husband. Sorry for not being more clear. Thanks for clarifying. If you're married in CA you can drink in a bar if your with your husband? When did this start? Costacat, that lingerie might have been nice, but it was tres expensive. Notice that Vicki is the only one who mentioned that and she is the one not having financial troubles like the other housewives. It seems these shows have become nothing but having parties or going places...very boring. Not really day to day 'real' life.
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Kellsma
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 12:45 pm
I too prefer it back when it was more real and all the housewives actually knew each other and did not just become part of the group. What are Tamra and her husband doing shopping at La Perla when they may lose their house? Same with Gretchen and Slade and Lynn and her daughter. What was the whole point of that event. They just told us they were all having financial trouble and then they attend a private party at La Perla, unless La Perla of course sponsored it and comped the merchandise for product placement but even so, it does not flow well with the current storylines. I am a real housewife in OC, where are my cameras 
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 3:46 pm
True Cricket. But I saw only a lot of trying on of the lingerie. I didn't see anyone buying any. In past seasons, they'd have shown the totals as they were rung up. The point of that whole event was a fake "let's everyone get together party" so that the producers could try and make it seem like the OC HWs are all buddy buddy. The only time we are going to see them all together in one place is when there is an "event" being staged.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 3:58 pm
Thanks for all the info on the show, Beekind. That's right, Jeanna was the main one and she kind of brought Slade's girlfriend, Jo, into the group. Tamara, Lauri, Lynne, Gretchen and this new girl didn't live in Coto. Lauri may have, with her first husband. I never knew her. But Lynne and the new girl live in entirely different areas and Tamara lives in a relatively new sub-developement way outside of Coto...and outside of the canyons. And Gretchen (and Slade) currently live way down in Irvine, which is also not all that close to Coto. This is what's really weird and may be why the show has changed. Lynne is moving away from where she did live, but not to Coto and Tamra said something to the new woman, Alexis, about maybe moving 'down' where she lives. (If they have to sell their house) so the only housewife who lives in Coto now is Vicki. Umm, do you have the Coto license plate? That's very interesting about how the 'app' decides looks. Hmm, not really accurate. Makeup is everything at times, lol. Re Jeana winning the neighbor, I know many don't like Vicki, but in reality, when Jeana's boys were younger, they had friends over on the show and they were pretty loud, so I'd say Vicki because her kids seemed (and I say seemed) quieter. That's what would do it for me. Have you ever seen or met Slade's ex-wife (was he married?) Was Jeana friends with her and that's how she knew Slade or did he move to Coto after their breakup? Jeana seems to want to fix or help people, ie., Slade and the fan...Micky (???) that she let live in Vicki's house.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 3:59 pm
True Cricket. But I saw only a lot of trying on of the lingerie. I didn't see anyone buying any. In past seasons, they'd have shown the totals as they were rung up. Hmmm, very good catch, Costacat. I thought the two husbands were going to buy something for their wives, but you're right, it could have just been for show for the episode.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 4:56 pm
I seem to recall Vicki throwing a lot of parties in seasons past. With her constant "whoo hoo" when she gets intoxicated, I can say I would hate to have her as a neighbor. WRT Coto, I think it was mostly an accident that the women mostly lived there originally. Because if they'd wanted Coto housewives, then the show would've been called Housewives of Coto de Caza. Keeping it in the generic OC allows for other women to be included.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 5:18 pm
I lived in San Diego about 20 years ago and it was before that that they were married so it was a long while ago. It really was funny. She was old enough to be married and have a child, but could only have a drink with her husband! lol
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 5:26 pm
Umm, do you have the Coto license plate? H E double hockey sticks NO, I don't. LOL But, then again, I don't live in Coto. Have you ever seen or met Slade's ex-wife (was he married?) No, but I have seen Slade around. He used to ride his bike around the canyons. And people loved to reference the nude photos of him he liked to brag about. Sadly, though, there are sometimes fund-raisers for his little boy (the one who was on the first season) because he has brain cancer. As I understand it, he bought his house from Jeanna and they became friends. In Coto, there are different areas. Slade lived in one of the "cookie cutter" developements, where each house looks like the other. Jeanna and Vicki (and Scott) live in The Estates, which is large custom homes with acreage, not just lots. Coto also has an area called The Village, which is smaller custom homes on lots and is near The Vic Braeden tennis training condos. (Which may, by now, be just regular condos for anyone. I haven't spent much time in Coto in recent years.) If you think back to the first season, Jeanna once set up a job interview for Slade with one of her friends. Slade said something about living in Coto in the blah-blah-blah developement and asked the boss fellow where he lived, and the boss-fellow said, "Uh...in The Estates " There is an uncomfortable hierarchy in Coto. And the people in the Estates do look down on the people in the developements, for the most part. Kobe Bryant and Arnold Schwartenegger both had incredible homes built in Coto, but when Dove Canyon (a neighboring canyon) began to develop, it became apparent that people had access to the hills behind their houses and they didn't stay there because it was no longer private enough. I've lived up in this area for over twenty years, and much has changed and developed around here, but for a good period of time, it was basically just Coto de Caza...and then the local canyon (which is where I live.) Since it was a fairly small community back then, most of us knew eachother and all of us pretty much knew of eachother. Any sort of "new" thing I hear about the RHWOC gals comes from gossip from those of us that have lived out this way for a long time. I will say that most of the gossip is unflattering. Not many locals are all that happy with the image these women have created for us. Most of us are nothing like them. Right, Kellsma? LOL
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