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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 7:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Not going to spoil this for everyone who still has yet to watch, but I developed a whole new respect for one of the chefs after rewatching some of the earlier episodes today and then their performance tonight.

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Sunday, November 21, 2010 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
I thought the selection was encouraging. We'll see this next season of Iron Chef.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I didn't rewatch, but based on what I saw, I thought Forgione deserved the win. Although I will say I thought the judges totally kissed his arse and totally dissed Canora. So it seemed odd. But if I had to pick a winner from these two losers (neither of whom *I* would've picked for the NIC), it would've gone to Forgione. I hated Canora's attitude thru the entire season and he deserved to make it sooooo close and not get the title!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Here is a good summary of last night's finale:

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Karuuna
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08-30-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Pffft, I still don't like either of them.. :-)

Mummy35332
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09-09-2005

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mummy35332 a private message Print Post    
What do you want? Too salty? Or too sweet.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
True, I still don't like either of them. And Forgione isn't gonna make me wanna watch the Iron Chef shows. So pfffttt!

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Forgione will either thrive in the Iron Chef arena or he's going to lose a lot of ground in his development as a top level chef. I've read up on his father, who seems to be a real hero in American cuisine. I also read an interiew with Forgione and Canora where Canora admitted he was in fact an a****** (his word for himself), but that his edit made him look like a bigger a****** than he is by repeating the same cranky moments four times in commercials, five times during the show and four times again during the next weeks previews.

Ming Tsai seemed to be all Zen with his ouster, admitting that he hadn't cooked on a line in years and he seemed to think the "dated" criticism had some validity to it. But he was energized by participating in the show and wanted to reinvest himself in the creative process.

I thought Forgione ran circles around Canora in Kitchen Stadium. I also think they both knew they were doing Thanksgiving for a finale. But then again, I think all the chefs know in Iron Chef challenges what the secret ingredient is going to be in advance.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Seeing as how I FF thru commercials and never watch the "see what's happening next week" stuff, I can honestly say that the edit Canora got was exactly as he stated... and he's an a******.

Forgione did run circles around Canora in Kitchen Stadium. I think Forgione can, at least, think outside the box. And yes, they do know what the secret ingredient will be, so these two hadda know it would be a turkey day thing. (Forgione knew way too much about the original Thanksgiving... he had to have read up on it.)

I still would've preferred a Tsai win. But I'm glad to hear he's been energized and I hope FN puts him on a show. I'm tired of the dreck that FN has been putting out lately... it's either stupidly boring (Aarti) or over the top (Fieri) or just plain stoopid (Sandra Lee). I'd love to see a real chef doing real cooking again!

Pdxtransplant
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07-09-2010

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pdxtransplant a private message Print Post    
I would so look forward to some real cooking shows on FN. I don't eat cake, but when I did, it was about taste. I can't stand the cake decorating challenges that last for an hour, seemingly every week night. And it is time to put that stupid Unwrapped show to pasture. I don't want to know how they make twinkies, or sour candy, or other junk.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I agree Costacat. And I hope Food Network gives Tsai his own show if that's what he wants. Tio could teach us a lot too if she were given the chance, I really want to visit her restaurant in Kansas City.

And Pdxtransplant, Colossus and I were traveling recently listening to Sirius radio. I asked him (joking) if they had the Food Network on Sirius and he said "what, we're going to listen to Cupcake Wars on the radio?" LOLOL. We are both so sick of the dreck on Food Network.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Chef Tsai used to have a show on FN years ago. His food looked delish and I wanted to lick my TV screen.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
It really has gone downhill, the programming on FN, hasn't it? I was just thinking the "Dessert First" show that's now on on Sundays. It's the most gawdawful show also, and the production is really bad.

I think the only show I really enjoy watching any more is Nigella, and half of that is cuz I love watching her sneak into the kitchen in the dark to grab a snack!

I used to watch FN all the time. I even had it on as background noise working here at home. Now? I've got the Travel Channel on (and crack up an Bourdain's adventures).

I guess it all goes with the rest of the "dumbing down of America" (as "they" say).

Angelicfairies2
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07-18-2004

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I could not be happier with the winner but in saying that FN has gone down hill, It takes forever for a new season to appear..how many times can we see the same recipes over and over?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Or old Alton Brown shows, from like 2003!!!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
What do they do with former IC winners? Like does Garces stick around or is he retired now that they have a new Next Iron Chef? I didn't watch this season, but I tuned into the judging last night and saw Bobby, Morimoto, and Symon (whom I detest), but I didn't see the other ICs there. Not that I'd miss it if Cat Cora weren't there, too...

I mostly agree with Costa re: the quality of FN programming, which has devolved into using as many pre-packaged ingredients as possible, but I still watch DVR Ina on Saturday mornings, sometimes I DVR Giada (her show has really gone downhill, though), and I LOVE LOVE LOVE Anne Burrell's cooking, but her antics on the show...oy. I've learned a lot watching her show, though, and it's because of her that I got up the nerve to make bread. I figured if Anne, who isn't a baker, can make focaccia, I can try it, too.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
\Still laughing about Alton Brown screaming out the times to Canora during the last ten minutes.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Tish, I dunno what they're going to do - either go with six iron chefs or discharge one. We'll find out this Sunday night I guess, Forgione already has a challenge under his belt that is supposed to show that night I believe.

Nickovtyme
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07-28-2004

Monday, November 22, 2010 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I didn't watch the finale, but I agree that FN's shows are going downhill quick. Everything is becoming a reality/challenge show.

That's part of the whole reason FoodNetworkHumor.com exists.

Redpen
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07-24-2003

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Redpen a private message Print Post    
Doesn't the company that owns FN also own the Cooking Channel? So if we want to learn about cooking we should go there? For now I enjoy the competitions on FN. But it's getting old as the level of competitors goes down.

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
There were only 3 Iron Chefs on the current season show that came on after the finale, Flay, Cora and Symon so I think Garces, Morimoto and the others are all gone now.

For the secret ingredient, the chefs are given a list of 3-5 things that it might be and so they do know what the options are before they get to the show.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Hmmm - Morimoto's wiki doesn't mention him leaving Iron Chef America, but it does say he has opened two new restaurants in the past several months. Maybe he's taking a bit of a sabbatical. Surely we'd have heard if Morimoto was no longer with the show.

That explanation of how the Iron Chefs always seem pre-prepared for the ingredient makes sense, Jenjackso.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
According to the Food Network page:

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Each week, world-class chefs battle the legendary Iron Chefs of America: Bobby Flay, Mario Batali, Masaharu Morimoto, Cat Cora, Jose Garces and Michael Symon. Alton Brown serves as Commentator and Mark Dacascos is Chairman.




And Wikipedia lists all of the above chefs, showing only Wolfgang Puck as having been retired.

So as of now, there six iron chefs (with the addition of Forgione). They just may not show each chef every season... doesn't the challenger get to pick who he goes up against?

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Does Batali still show up some times? I thought he had completely retired from the show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 23, 2010 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Ah ha!! From wikipedia:

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Starting with Season 3, the show returned to the format of its predecessor and had the challenger chefs select the Iron Chef they will battle. In reality, the match-ups are determined well in advance in all three incarnations of the show, which is not to say that the challengers have no influence on the selection of their opponent.




Check out wikipedia...there's lots of interesting info there, including the percentages of wins vs losses of the existing chefs.

And I do remember seeing the Unwrapped episode where they described how they deal with the end of the challenge (plating the extra dishes, reheating the second chefs dishes)...