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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 10:47 pm
I caught an insite into Kelly on the show. It seems Kelly just turns people off and doesn't listen until she wants to talk and that she does this on a regular basis (Remember the white noise comment?). No wonder what she has to say so rarely has anything to do with the current conversation. Jill really made me mad when she said she understood what Kelly had been through after her reception on St. John (She alluded to this at the lunch with Luann, Kelly and Jen Gilbert). Really Jill? You can't see the difference? At least Bravo let the HW's officially tell us that Kelly was escorted home by a producer. I was surprised that Luanne was surprised that Kelly was escorted home. Luann seemed to still be under the impression that Kelly left the island by her own choice. Also since Bravo had to remove Kelly couldn't they have delivered her to a psych hosp for a 72 hour commitment on the basis of danger to self or others? Press is press and Kelly could have benifited from the additional vacation time. I wish Andy had let Ramona push her question to Jill about why she wasn't with her friend (Kelly) when her and Bethanny had both told her the night before that Kelly needed help. Jill knew perfectly well that Kelly was being taken home, but once again Jill tried to run the show, override Bravo and tell Kelly to stay because she was coming. Jill didn't have that authority after Bravo decided Kelly had to leave. I believe that if Jill had changed her plans and went to be with Kelly it would have helped Jills relationships with the other women she claims she wanted to make amends with that day. But no, it was all about Jill, not about helping someone else. If push comes to shove, I believe that Bravo will pick Bethanny over Kelly and pick Alex over Jill. Especially with Alex and Ramona occasionally on Bethannys show. Bravo has a two series Bethanny/Alex/Ramona dynasty in the making.
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Thursday, June 17, 2010 - 11:27 pm
When I am able to speak it is perfect. There you go. She loves herself LOL Olivia. Kelly has to love herself. She is the only one that might have a glimmer of an idea of what she is trying to say. Even Jill and Luann were confused by her at times. Or since Kelly feels it is O.K. to have one opinion one day and another opinion another day, she may be the the only person who knows which personality is in control at that moment. I can't get over that Kelly thinks its perfectly fine to contradict herself all the time. Oh wait, she is a woman and she has a perogitive. Kelly actually thought it was a compliment that a viewer knew about all of her opinion changes? I guess she really does believe that all press is good press.
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 1:44 am
Mummy women like Kelly will never admit fault. They love themselves way too much. Self absorbed, self centered *****. Prisoner I also came away from last nights show with a higher opinion of Luann. She was truthful, humble and kind. She also looked softer somehow. I don't think the camera crew that films them during the season does any of them any favors. Alex looked really pretty too.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 2:39 am
Alisons, I couldn't hear exactly what Kelly was saying about the grapes when Jill was talking. I was hoping someone else caught the comment.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 4:44 am
I just started watching last night's show and something I noticed. I don't think Kelly will be asked back for next season. I was watching Andy's face as Kelly was talking, when she returned after walking off. She really doesn't understand what went wrong and it started to look like a light went off in Andy's head. Like, this is now past the point of drama for ratings, and it's not "safe" (for anyone) to keep Kelly around. I really hope I'm right. And not the least because I really will not watch this show next season if she is on. I've still got most of the show to watch, so I'll comment on the rest later.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 4:50 am
Sort of seems like they have all cooked their own gooses as far as returning next year. Bravo might be smart (for once) and cancel it altogether. How many threats of "if she's here, I won't be" or the "I honestly don't know if..." crap do they need to hear before they realize they're dealing with a bunch of divas? Luann and Sonja won't be able to carry the show alone.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 5:00 am
I think I can say now that I am pretty much "Done" with RHNY. Jill and Kelly are delusional in different ways. If either of them are on the show next year I don't believe I will watch.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 5:02 am
Oh and Jill kept saying how much Alex "Hates" her. I saw Alex as being angry. Jill on the other hand was shooting Alex looks of pure hatred. It was really kinda "creepy". And what was with Jill saying she knew how Kelly felt? OMG. BLAH. I hate them all. UGH. I need a hobby.
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Reader234
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08-13-2000
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 5:04 am
well first of all I had a difficult time watching, so I flipped channels - I just couldnt handle all that drama, and yelling - it was The View gone bad! I suddenly didnt care what they had to say!! I was glad that they said a producer escorted Kelly off the island, and ITA she does seem dillusional - in her own world, but it works for her!! So why not continue doing what works (the white noise, and joining conversations to twist them around - she did that all the time in the dinner!) And it does make you wonder about her "choices" For PETA, for wearing fur... etc. Then to try very hard to, I dont know, discredit? Bethenny "...she didnt cook, she isnt a chef, a chef was doing all the cooking" When the ladies said it was a sous chef - I know Kelly hadnt a clue what that meant! but she didnt get any support from her couch potatoes so she dropped it. I think what will stop Bravo from bringing her back is her insistence that she was "Forced to go" no one believes that, Andy on WWHL made sure she knew she wasnt forced, but it is still HER issue... (I'm sorry I cant remember who was guest host on that issue - was it Jill?) anyway, its obvious Kelly BELIEVES she was forced to go - just as she believes she can wear fur and support PETA.. maybe she is on "happy pills" also (something to help keep her calm) her rationality leaves me baffled. and someone PLEASE get that STOOPID song out of my head... I dont care if money cant buy you class... *sigh
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 5:18 am
Jill and Kelly are delusional in different ways. I don't know if I'd put it that way, but you have a point. I think the difference is Jill is capable of realizing that she wasn't bullied, that she knows she behaved badly, and that she needs to change in order to keep her status. They are similar in that neither of them can stand that Bethenny got her own show. Neither of them can stand that the others on the show come off looking better than them. Neither of them are capable of controlling their behavior enough to make themselves look better. The difference between the two is Kelly doesn't even realize how bad she looks, while Jill does. Alex's blog this week is great. She goes through all the things Jill has said or done over the past three years and provides links to the articles or videos that substantiate her claims.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 6:32 am
I like that - 2 different kinds of delusional: Jillusional - totally self-centered view of the world Kellusional - at odds with reality I could have smacked Andy for not allowing BARS/BRAS the chance to really rebut what Kelly was saying. I *like* the idea of Kelly being off altogether and Dina from RHONJ replacing Jill.
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Bombaycat
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07-21-2007
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 6:58 am
I'd like to see RHONY minus Jill and Kelly. RHONJ minus Danielle and friends. Then give Jill, Kelly, Danielle and company their own separate show. Danielle's goons could provide the "protection".
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Chitchat58
Member
07-25-2008
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 6:59 am
I thought that Alex's blog was spot on about Jill. I don't even know her, but I do see that Jill is a vindicitve person, and do think she's the kind of person who will do anything to try and get Alex off the show. I hope Bravo doesn't fall for Jill's crap and keep Alex. I won't watch if they get rid of Alex or Ramona.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 7:18 am
I'm still in the midst of watching. Jill just said something that was finally true and explains all the drama from when she crashed Ramona's party. She said that Bobby was there, saw it all, and she was humiliated and embarrassed. (Paraphrased.) So Jill was humiliated. THAT is why all the drama. Had nothing to do with the lack of etiquette where you just show up unannounced, nothing to do with anything else other than she was embarrassed and it was all caught on film. She still doesn't understand why she was kicked out. She blames Alex and then Ramona for "picking Alex over her (Jill)". Again, the high school thing. I'm gonna go read Alex's blog before I finish watching... ETA: Oh yeah, I forgot... Jill said the island eviction was the worst thing that ever happened to her? Um, yeah, didn't Bobby just have that cancer thing? Wouldn't life or death be a bit more "worse" than just being humiliated on camera? Methinks the woman's priorities are completely screwed up.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 9:12 am
Still watching... Just finished the bit with Kelly and "Kelly Land" (and her contradictions). Does she really NOT understand where fur comes from? That animals are killed to make those fur vests she so loves to wear? And that they are not always killed humanely? Does she really not understand the dichotomy of her stance? (Oh wait, she probably doesn't even understand what "dichotomy" is!) That is one screwed up woman. "I make declarations. One day I want to eat processed foods. The next day I don't." Um, yeah, so then the declarative "I never eat processed foods" isn't true, is it? What an idiot. Seriously.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:35 am
For once most of us agree on those wacky housewives of NYC.........
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 10:56 am
Seriously, Costacat! You nailed it about Jill being humiliated. Just talking about it made her start bawling. Sheesh! Yes, Marameko...rather amazing that everyone seems to be seeing these women in the same light, eh? Alisons, ahhh...so Alex was saying Jill probably wouldn't be back because possibly Bravo has picked Alex and Simon up and they actually believe Jill really won't come back if Alex is there? I think she was just stomping her feet and throwing a tantrum. How many times did she say, "I'm Done" througout the 3 episodes? I don't think she's ready to leave the limelight just yet. Afterall, she's got a book to sell.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 11:01 am
20394480%2C00.html,http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20394480,00.html Bethenny on Jill
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 11:08 am
this works better: http://www.people.com/people/videos/0,,20394480,00.html
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 11:19 am
Thanks Terolyn! Guess I should double check that the link works!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 11:43 am
Well that pretty much sums up whether Bethenny and Jill will be friends again. To be perfectly honest, I don't blame Bethenny for wanting no party of Jill. At some point, after you've tried too many times to count to recover from an argument, you just need to cut toxicity out of your life.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:11 pm
well.... time to put this show behind me, the only thing I would be happy to hear is that Kelly got some help. I do think that when so many people talk at once, it can make you feel ganged up on, but when you are the instigator and when you admit to not listening to conversations you are in, it is a little weird. I am sad when PETA is shown with anyone giving then respect since they siphon so much neede3d money from pet charities that do actual good (ditto for the humane society of the US - PETA scam part 2 - raised 100 million and spays a 1000 animals? kills the rest) Jill still thinks she can control the story, Alex needs to get over being angry, sometimes you have to shrug off being attacked for your own well being and because people start looking at you as the one who is nuts, Luann needs to stop being the countess and thinking she is above it all, the husbands need their own show because some of them are more interesting than their wives, Sonia needsto realize you can't b e liked by everyone, they will turn on you, Bethanny has apparently learned about friendship and Jill - just see the way she turns on other people, may be nice to you now, but it is only a matter of time. I like that I still have friends from school, apparently i have not done anything so terrible to lose friends over the years, still friends with a bunch of my ex bosses and co workers and ex neighbors. Sometimes you have to forgive and ove on to keep friends, not that too many of these were friends before the show.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 12:48 pm
Interesting read http://thestir.cafemom.com/healthy_living/104705/real_housewives_of_new_york
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 1:06 pm
That's another one that diagnosed Kelly with Paranoid Personality Disorder.
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Jenjackso
Member
02-10-2009
| Friday, June 18, 2010 - 1:37 pm
I would tend towards Borderline rather than Paranoid. She seems to be stuck around age 8 or 9 to me.
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