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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Friday, August 28, 2009 - 6:36 am
Good info and recipes here: http://veganvitals.blogspot.com/
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, August 28, 2009 - 7:44 am
Wow, thanks Jushvnfn! I've bookmarked that page for future reference. I am always looking for good vegetarian/vegan recipes. I plan on going to Chrissie Hynde's restaurant. In fact, we are going next weekend, week from now. Yay! I always want to figure out how they make things. I would love Top Chef to show more recipes along these lines. I know it's not mainstream (yet!), but there are many of us out here.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 28, 2009 - 8:54 am
Smokey, I can send you the RSS feed links to a bunch of sites I follow. Most are vegetarian. You have to let me know how you liked Chrissie's restaurant. In fact, order extra, get it in a to go bag, and ship it to me! Veg'an is far more mainstream than you think. I heard a number of close to 20% are veg'an at least some of the time. That includes semi-veg'an, those who eat fish or poultry once or twice a week but for the most part choose not to eat meat. 
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Jushvnfn
Member
07-29-2006
| Friday, August 28, 2009 - 9:58 am
Your welcome Smokey.. I can't believe I missed the first episode...waa Must go check my Tivo to do list! It's getting harder and harder to schedule all of these reality shows....
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 7:39 am
Interesting to see how the comments about this episode have evolved. Everyone is correct in many ways. Some people gravitate towards the various types of vegetarianisms for different reasons (and it's a private eye-rolling when a patient tells a dietitian they are a vegetarian because they do not eat red meat). Many teenagers play 'follow me' with vegetarianism as a fad or a method of weight loss (and some dive into full blown eating disorders). Others are well educated and decide to abstain from animal proteins for health or environmental concerns. Unfortunately, I've seen some way too thin vegetarians (who are not getting enough protein or calories to sustain normal growth or maintain adequate lean body mass). And I've seen overweight/obese vegetarians (i.e. french fries are vegetarian if fried in vegetable oil). Obesity is correlated with increased risk for heart disease, hypertension, fatty liver disease, Type 2 diabetes and some cancers. However, normal weight or thin people get these health problems as well. Correlation is not cause & effect. But the risks for these health issues are much higher in overweight/obese folks. Especially when genetics is a factor. Now, back to this episode and the food. Some of the choices looked awesome. I think the male guests have a lower palate perception than the judges - so they raved about food that the judges discounted. Alcohol may also play a factor - more alcohol = less discerning taste buds and increase appetite (so they come back for more). I found the party concept interesting, the parties were at the same time in the same location (what a great way for the wedding party to save a ton of money and entertain a lot of friends, have a TV show cater/host your event). Wonder if they get their wedding catered/hosted as well. And I agree the PAs (Production Assistants) who are doing these confessional interviews probably prompted the comments about weddings with leading questions. Looking at the weather I'd say this was early spring of this year - Prop 8 is very fresh on a lot of people's minds. But it should not play a role in taking on a catering job.

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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 8:10 am
Costa, I would love the links. Thanks! renieb@neo.rr.com I also agree about production prompting the answers they get in the interviews. It seemed pretty obvious it was edited to look the way it did. I could feel the pain in Ashley over not being able to experience the joy of a legal marriage. I tend to think that marriage is a sacred agreement between 2 people, whether it's legal or not legal. But, I do understand not being able to have the same benefits a heterosexual couple gets to have for being married. I agree with you Kona, that it should not affect a job you have to do for someone. I have some really great customers that I love, and there are many who are so far away from me in my belief system and politics, but I have to step back and keep it business, the best I can.
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 8:50 am
Will TVCH be putting a banner up with the chefs? I'm still trying to get everyone's names straight. 
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 9:19 am
"not the ones who think french fries are a vegetable" LOL how true! It's easy for young kids to fall into that, though. They don't think so much about what they're putting into their bodies. I know about this one after so many battles with my younger daughter. She is completely vegan now, and I still worry that she doesn't get enough iron and/or protein. She does fairly well, but not on a daily basis. Just a momma worrying. Thank you for the links, Costa.
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 9:54 am
Hi Smokey, I'm a gastric bypass patient, and I have always been prone to anemia even before the surgery. When not eating animal forms of Iron, it's important to eat vegetable sources of iron correctly so you get the most iron from the food. You may already know that it's vital to eat foods rich in vitamin C with vegetable sources of iron. This allows the body to be able to absorb it better. Oxalic acid in vegetables such as Spinach blocks the absorption of iron. The best source of a complete protein in a vegetable diet is Quinoa. Just make sure you soak and wash the quinoa. It's coated with saponin, which is a natural detergent created by the plant to keep insect damage down. It tastes soapy and foams up too. Here is the link to the wikipedia page on Quinoa that gives nutrition information and instructions for cleaning it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa#Nutritional_value Here is a good link for Iron information: http://www.healthcastle.com/iron.shtml Here is a good article for Protein information: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/protein-full-story/index.html#protein_alike I hope this is helpful.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 9:58 am
i love quinoa!!!
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 10:01 am
It's good stuff and so good for you! My daughter called it the popping rice that looks like a tadpole when she was about 6-years-old. LOL!
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Moderator
06-29-2002
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 10:13 am
Some posts have been removed from this thread. Attacking other posters is not permitted at TVCH. The next time, your account will be suspended.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:32 pm
Gemma! So ironic because I just used Quinoa tonight. I actually added it to my vegetarian chili. I love it and buy it just for the reasons you've stated. It's a wonderful food. Thanks for the reminders. I appreciate it. 
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Saturday, August 29, 2009 - 3:40 pm
haha...smokey said "ironic" when discussing an "iron" subject. smokey is a funny bunny.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Sunday, August 30, 2009 - 1:08 pm
I finally saw the show, I thought the bride was a bit pretentious but I did enjoy the cooking. I think you guys are correct in that the number of shots might impact how good someone thought the food was, LMAO.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 8:18 pm
Good show, and Jennifer really shone as the kitchen manager! She got the job because she had immunity from the QF, but she was terrific all the way! I am glad to see that those that seem the weaker chefs to me also seem that way to the judges, but once we get the deadwood out of the way - I may have to differ!
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 9:01 pm
How strange to me that the wedding was a problem, but there was no problem with the don't ask, don't tell policy with this challence. I guess Bravo isn't afraid of alienating its LGBT audience. Or perhaps they couldn't find a challenge in Vegas that included openly LGBT citizens.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 3:44 am
or perhaps the cheftestants weren't bothered by it like they were the wedding.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 5:27 am
DADT isn't as much of an in-your-face slap as a marriage. And again, as we've talked about previously, this was probably filmed within 6 months of the election. Marriage was the big issue then (this could've been right around the court ruling upholding prop 8). DADT is prominent within LGBT but is lesser known to the masses. Prop 8 pushed marriage equality to the forefront. I was seriously not impressed with Mike (the arrogant one). The way he had to describe the method of making risotto out of potato to the "viewing audience." So condescending. And then the way he stood there at judges' table, not owning up to a crappy dish at first. Bleah.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 5:35 am
that bugged me too cat..what a jerk! i was rooting for him to get booted with his throw away dish too!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 6:01 am
I am baffled by the "hopefully this isn't the worst dish" metality that allows these folks to serve food they aren't proud of. People aren't going to come back to your restaurant just because they weren't served the worst dish of their lives there - at least I wouldn't!
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 8:34 am
Despite some of the bad or average dishes, I really think the bar is raised this season with so many outstanding chefs. I am impressed with several of them at this point. I thought Mike (the jerk) was a jerk. He oozes arrogance. I am really liking the brothers and the chef (I forget his name...) that is from Georgia with the reddish hair. Very talented. Oh, and I too was very impressed with Jennifer running the kitchen. She did an awesome job.
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Donnagg
Member
08-11-2007
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 9:03 am
I'm on board the dislike Mike [arrogant] train. I also think there is alot of talent this year. Jennifer did a great job keeping things flowing, and I'm glad the other chefs showed her respect.
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 9:20 am
Just a note to tell you guys thanks for the heads up on the quinoa!! Over 70 and I've never tried it...bought some yesterday and going to make a pilaf tonite. DH even is interested in all the info about it. At our age we tend not to eat as good as we should LOL
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 5:45 pm
How exactly was choosing Jennifer as the winner of the quick-fire "favoritism"? Mike (the jerk) acted like she didn't deserve her win. He was just classless throughout the show. I don't think the judges are very fond of him, either.
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