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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 12:28 pm
I am watching the episode right now and all I can say is: Jill is so wrong. Talking during events, gossiping. Bethany is so wrong. Don't send messages through others. You are pregnant, and enjoy being in the public, expect info is going to leak. Alex is so wrong. Don't do someone elses dirty work and the least you could do is do it one on one, let alone drag it out for so long. Of course don't use the opportunity to use someone's "message" to get your personal grudges taken care of. And Jill is the one being called the mean girl?
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 12:41 pm
Yes Jill is being called a mean girl and it stems from more than one episode.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 12:49 pm
Jill is definitely the mean girl
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 4:24 pm
Okay so I just watched last nights episode. As many of you have said I don't agree with Alex's delivery of the message, I do agree with the contents. Jill has stated clearly to one and all that she wants out of the friendship with Bethenny. She declared to one and all that Bethenny was toxic and that she didn't want that in her life. So what happens? Bethenny is pregnant and Queen Jill sends Bethenny an email telling her when and how to share her pregnancy news? For all we know Jill is the one who tipped Perez Hilton off to the news. It's either one way or the other Jill. You either are a friend or you are not. You told Bethenny on 3 occasions that you were not interested in a reconciliation. So why are you now upset that she isn't taking your olive branch? Sorry I am ranting and raving. None of this makes sense. As to whether Jill is a mean girl or not, I don't know. The one thing she is for sure though is a dumb girl.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 5:22 pm
Alex generally is a little geeky/socially awkward, but I think her heart is in the right place. I think she took her "mission" so seriously because she was trying to show Bethenny some love. So she gets an "A" for good intentions and a "C" for task execution. I watched the reruns of the first season also and it was really illuminating. At the time Jill's behavior did not seem so bad, but after watching this season, there were a lot of things that struck me differently. You can definitely see the traits in Jill that caused all the drama this year.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Friday, April 30, 2010 - 7:40 pm
The after show explained in part why Alex handled it the way she did. Yes, she was delivering a message for Bethenny, but she was also getting out some of her aggression to Jill that she was feeling. She has been a doormat to Jill for the past seasons and next week will explain more the reasons behind it.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 3:38 am
The Daily Beast Yup, desperate.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 4:27 am
Thanks for sharing that link P#6. It took me to page 2 of the article so I'm including this link for the first page. Very interesting stuff in there. What I like is the author is speaking of firsthand experience. http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-04-28/housewives-amazon-scam/?cid=sexybeast:featured5
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 4:27 am
Thanks for the link to the Daily Beast article. Wow! A threatening email to a respected book reviewer. Jill has lost it.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 5:49 am
<77 - continuity only> What's interesting is in watching the first season episodes, she was fighting with Ramona. The second season started off with her fighting with Alex and Simon (remember the Cindy Adams column?) This season it's Bethenny. I'm beginning to feel a little sorry for Jill. In one of the first season episodes, she told her sister in high school, she felt like no one liked her. Now, 30 years later, she sees every little slight as more proof that no one likes her. She really is still in high school, trying to be part of the in crowd.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 8:09 am
Last night I watched a new video that the Bravotv.com site has up about Jill and Bethenney during their good times. It's very touching, to me anyways. They both were such great friends. Here's the link if any wish to see it. It made me feel a bit sad for Jill as well because she got so far off course and lost a really great girlfriend and unfortunately realized it all too late. http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-york-city/videos/remembering-the-good-times
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Kappy
Member
06-28-2002
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 2:37 pm
I'm sorry but I'm not feeling any more love for Bethenny then Jill this season. I just watched the scene where shes telling Jason that her pregnancy is public on the internet and I was really bothered with how little consideration she had for him and his parents. She didn't even consider that he might want to share the news with more then just his parents. She also stated that she is a "public figure". Yes, she is known for being on a reality show full of toxic self-centered women but she is not what I would consider a "public figure".
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Saturday, May 01, 2010 - 3:00 pm
Kappy don't be sorry, express yourself. Appreciate your honesty because it's not a popular stance and I've taken that stance on other threads. I don't think B is perfect, but I identify with her. I'm not perfect either. I like her, she makes me laugh. Jill makes me want to tune out. The snobbery Jill is consumed with has hurt her. I feel bad for Jill. I wish she'd peel off the fake layers and be herself because I liked Jill alot in the past and anyway I'm blabbering.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 1:38 am
http://blog.zap2it.com/thedishrag/2010/03/real-housewives-bethenny-frankel-on-jill-zarin-i-dont-know-how-self-aware-she-is.html Interview with B done on 4/28 
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 1:49 am
Ack that article is from March, my bad
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 6:26 am
Misty ITA with all you said. I think they are ALL mean girls this season, now even Alex. And I for one can't stomach any of them anymore. Ironically, I had a much bigger problem with the episode that had nothing to do with any of the women. As one who has come to believe in mediums (well SOME Mediums), I just want to throw tomatoes at the one Sandra had. That is not how any reputable Medium works. For that matter, it is more a psychic question, if at all. But any good adviser of that sort gives you all the info. Not just talks like that, as if discussing an issue w/a friend. I didn't hear one drop of evidential info, which is always given by those legit in the field, to prove that THEY are getting the info from spirit, not just giving your their personal opinions on stuff you are saying. Grrrr! Plus it raises the huge difference between Mediums & just psychics (you won't find me defending the latter, and that's what she seemed to be solely). People like that, esp on TV, drive me nutz cause it is why the legit ones have such a bad reputation. I'm used to these woman being tacky and getting on my last nerve. Don't like to see them trash something so many I know have spent years working to prove has some legitimacy!!!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 8:40 am
Lurk I came late to that episode and I didnt realize that the lady was a "psychic" or "medium" LOL I thought it was her mother (or mother figure, aunt, something related to Sandra) LOL at the end I scratched my head and thought "really"? oh come on! <77 - continuity only>
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, May 02, 2010 - 10:05 am
<77 - continuity only> OH and Reader, that lady was introduced as a Medium, not that I heard one drop of communication with the other side. Or for that matter any psychic communication lolol. It's folks like that, that undermine legit Medium's credulity IMHO. LOL so let's hit my 2 beliefs at once here lolol ACK!!! (need the flaming fire running guy emo we use during BB here lololol)
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 11:13 am
I do feel sorry for Jill in that she takes the *tiniest* *slightest* thing as a malicious jab directed intentionally at her. Looking back at her reaction to not being invited to Ramona's cooking party - wow wow wow, why would anyone get so upset about that? My friends have parties that I am not invited to, they are allowed to have other friends! Wow!
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Monday, May 03, 2010 - 1:10 pm
PS. Note to Jill: Of course you got picked on in high school. Teenaged mean girls can smell insecurity like sharks can smell blood in the water.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Tuesday, May 04, 2010 - 6:46 pm
This should deter any tanners that visit this thread. TMZ has a photograph of Kelly wearing a bikini while running along the beach. http://www.tmz.com/
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Oliviamimi
Member
05-30-2009
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 2:30 am
I saw that Shenanagon. Women of a certain age just should not wear bikinis. She is pretty, but.....
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 3:19 am
I think that Playboy shoot gave her too much confidence. I think she forgot that Playboy employs the best set of airbrushers in the world!
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 4:55 am
My 71 yr old mother doesn't have wrinkles on her belly. But my mother never was a tanner so I think Kelly's over done it sunbathing for too many years. She's going to look 80 by the time she's 50.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Wednesday, May 05, 2010 - 12:56 pm
Most normal women don't have wrinkles on their belly because most normal women have fat stretching out their bellies! I speak from personal experience! 
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