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Kellsma
Member
08-27-2002
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 6:16 am
Yea! It is back on. I loved Top Chef Masters which was a great show. Now on to the real thing which we will see the chefs acting very differently then those on Top Chef Masters. How great can things be right now. Top Chef on Wednesdays and Project Runway on Thursdays. Last nights show was great. 17 contestants so this one will last quite a long time. Still don't know too many of the contestants yet but love watching this show.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 9:01 am
With so many cheftestants, I'm thinking one of the twists will involve multiple eliminations at some point. SOOOO good to have Tom and Padma back. That was the only thing I didn't like about the Masters series - Kelly's voice! New names to learn now, but the dishes last night looked like all of them have promise!
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Donnagg
Member
08-11-2007
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 12:51 pm
I agree Teach, it looks like a talented bunch of chefs this year.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 12:54 pm
Agree with both of your posts . . . Loved Masters but glad TC is back. I'm glad the gal that was eliminated (Jen?) was the one to go. She just didn't have a clue about why her chile relleno was bad, did she? Duh. It wasn't the stuffing. Re: the comments Wolfgang Puck made about her food: I think they were pretty mean (although they were funny and, from what we could see, true). I think if Toby What-his-face had said the same thing, he'd be getting flamed all over the place. Anyone else find that Mike guy (One of the four finalists) irritating?
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 1:02 pm
I had some of that veggie protein in a burrito and it really is gross tasting. There is no way you can make that taste good!!
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Donnagg
Member
08-11-2007
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 1:17 pm
I didn't like Mike's old women comment, there aren't any old women on the show. I don't have a favorite yet too many of them, but I did like the guy who won the challenge. Also the guy with the the boat story.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 1:32 pm
Anyone else find that Mike guy (One of the four finalists) irritating? Yes. Definitely. I was cracking up at how hard Tom was laughing with or at Wolfgang's comments. It was like he had the giggles and Wolfgang kept setting him off. I think this is a talented group, too. I'm vegetarian and have prepared Seitan before. You can make it tasty but it requires a lot of seasonings. It's like tofu in that it doesn't have flavor and you have to add what you want to make it flavorful.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 3:13 pm
My friend Michael is a wonderful vegetarian cook, and I love seitan and tofu the way he seasons it.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, August 20, 2009 - 3:21 pm
Gail even commented on Mike's sexist remarks - which she didn't see until we did. She said she was glad she hadn't known any of that was going on when they were tasting the food. Tom's blog also talked about how much he enjoyed Puck's commentary and critiques - he's definitely a big fan.
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 6:20 am
I don't like Mike and his sexist comments either. His need to not be beaten by a girl in the mise en place competition was very telling. Then to comment about shoving the 41 year old female chef out of the way and cracking on there being one less old lady in his way was very offensive. That's the type of moronic attitude and behavior that makes working in a professional kitchen both difficult and dangerous. He needs to realize that the "He-Man-Woman-haters-club" is just for little boys. It's time for him to grow up and stop worrying that he's going to be diminished by someone else. He only diminishes himself by his lack of confidence and need to dominate and subjugate others, particularly women.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Saturday, August 22, 2009 - 8:32 am
I disliked that Mike Isabella guy intensely. He has a big mouth and a bad atitude. Loved the show, though. I can't wait to see those brothers go head to head lol. And I love Ron, the guy who was on the boat from Haiti.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 5:39 am
My hope is that Mike's ego will be his downfall and he'll be eliminated in the next couple of weeks. The comments he made during the mise en place relay were downright rude, and he just continued that streak. I hated that he was in the group of 4 winners. That chile relleno looked totally inedible. It looked like a giant fried brick. She absolutely deserved to go, especially after saying she wanted to be different and couldn't understand that her plate was a total loser.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 10:18 am
Mike will be the bad guy this season. I thought his vice of having a potty mouth and the fish shaped into a bar of soap was a good way to show off his vice via the food. The judges all thought the fish was cooked well and the entire dish got high marks. I guess the guy can cook, I'm guessing he'll be around for a while. I hope that at some point he really messes up the final challenge and is sent home.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 1:04 pm
I did not like Mike's comments but he will probably be around for a while.I just watched the 1st show today.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Sunday, August 23, 2009 - 3:54 pm
Add me to the hate Mike club. Sexist 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 24, 2009 - 7:20 pm
I was irritated by Mike, but we'll see how things go.. some of those steaks make me hungry.. I haven't had a really good rare filet for a longlong time..
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, August 25, 2009 - 6:28 am
Bleah. Steaks on top of a sexist ego? Not even! 
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 6:54 pm
I know I'm going to be blasted by all the West Coasters here who seem to predominate, but tonight's show irritated the heck out of me. Everything I can't stand about todays society seem to be highlighted. Phoniness, elitism, fadish, The list goes on and on. I can't believe how demanding young people are today and how phony. It's so "in" to be vegetarian, pregatarian ( or whatever the heck she said), this atarian that atarian. It seems people sometimes claim these things to draw attention to themselves, and show how terribly "green" or "with it" they are. If someone would say, "I have a friend who's attending who's allergic to peanuts", I understand, and that should be catered to, but when you have so many people who don't eat this, don't eat that, I say, "PACK A LUNCH!" Another thing would be the attitude about the gay's angry about having to cater to a wedding party, .... Come on. Lets say I'm a guy and I'm too short to play basketball, and I'm really ticked off because I'd love to play, and I refuse to cater a basketball party, or what if someone is 60, unmarried, refuses to cater wedding parties because it's not fair that these people found love and catering a wedding party reminds her of her sadness! I can make a hundred examples but you get the idea. We have to stop all this anger about everything. Be happy these people found each other, they are going to wed, and we pray they have a long happy life together. OK, blast away, I can even tell you what will be said.
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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:00 pm
I had to laugh at the "pescaterian" label. Please. What is she, a pelican?
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:39 pm
I agree - I think while Ashley is probably MUCH more sensitive to weddings than others might be, it's certainly not going to help her career if she refuses to cater them! IMHO, she should celebrate that couple's love, and then work to ensure that she can also express her love the same way. She seemed to be the only one who had a huge problem with it. I think the guys kicked butt tonight, although I did agree w/Jennifer that people would rather eat what they recognize. Of course, both of us are now assuming we don't have food divas, and that certainly wasn't the case tonight! (Pescaterian - seems silly to me - isn't overfishing and poaching a HUGE issue??) However, if they recognize it, it better be fantastic! From the judges' comments, it appeared as if the flavors and more unique foods of the guys' team were much better. I'm glad Mike didn't win, and I was not disappointed to see Eve leave - she just seemed a bit out of her league.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 7:53 pm
I was slightly offended by her comment too, but afraid to say anything for fear of being intolerant. I don't know if I was having an ADHD moment or what, but all the dishes seemed way too complicated for me to get a feel for tonite.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 8:54 pm
I have lots of friends who are pescatarians and vegetarians, so I guess I don't have a problem with it. Of course, I live on the dreaded west coast and I suppose I have to live in the flyover to appreciate what undue pressures it puts on cooks I hire to get them to cook for ME rather than someone else. I thought her comments about doing wedding food were, on the one hand, appropriate and, on the other, overdone. I understand that she doesn't want to work them (and there is a huge market for people to do LGBT marriages/commitment ceremonies, including ads for catering in local LGBT publications), but sometimes on a game show, you just have to suck it up (so to speak). She got to speak her mind on Bravo, which has historically been a very gay friendly network, so...there. I also thought the idea of making this a "boys" against "girls" thing was ridiculous. I have a special disdain for hearing grown women called "girls."
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 9:16 pm
A couple of comments . . . Pescatarian comes from "pesca" which means fish. This ws the first time I ever heard the term . . . Had no clue anyone was a pescatarian . . . It makes no sense to me that someone would eat seafood/fish but not meat. . . . I thought the point was not killing living beings to eat them. Anyone know? The "atarians" are all over. I've know a fair number everywhere I've lived which includes the south, midwest and southwest. While I understand Ashley's consternation over the gay marriage debate, this wasn't the place for it. Did she not ever watch TC before? Don't they do at least one wedding/bridal shower each episode? Wasn't one of the episodes a few years ago a gay wedding/commitment ceremony (Two guys. . . I forget where they were.)? Not that an old episode makes a difference, but come on. I agree with Jgalt's thoughts (as well as others' thoughts). And, Mike was still irritating. ROTFLOL
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, August 26, 2009 - 9:31 pm
Some of us who choose not to eat/to limit our intake of meat do so for reasons other than not killing living things--for example, the fact that the meat industry is a huge contributor to global climate change. I have been trying to limit my meat intake not because of moral issues, although I have been a vegetarian in my past, for precisely that reason. Typically, pescatarians who are pescatarians for environmental reasons are careful to avoid seafood that has been endangered by overfishing of overharvesting. The Blue Ocean Institute has lots of info about which foods are OK and which are not.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 12:58 am
Hopefully they avoid mercury too.. But I sure think that if a person is hiring a caterer, they get to set the rules. I was watching the Top Chef Masters series this week and one of their clients was Zoey Deschamel (sp) and she's a vegan who cannot eat glutens and cannot eat soy. And the master chefs apparently amazed the vegans with some really colorful dishes (one of the judges mentioned that vegan foods sometimes look very beige.) On these shows, of course, the client with such restrictions is selected as part of the challenge to the chefs. While I certainly understand feeling excluded from certain rights/benefits and didn't mind the chef making her statement on the show, was happy to see that she didn't seem to take it out on the client. I also thought the male female division is stupid.. as it is in Hell's Kitchen. I can certainly see reasons to avoid eating anything endangered.
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