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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:00 am
LOL, I thought he was joking that he didn't know Perez-Hilton was gay.. but maybe Donald really is that out of the loop? Actually I thought it was sort of amusing that the first comments about Clint's video were about the pop up comment things that talked about his girlfriend (said by him and by the "wife").. and I think it was Joan who called out that it was basically promoting All detergent as a masturbation aid! Actually, thinking about it.. if Clint had been thinking, he'd have brought in Brian or whoever came up with the wording for the pup up verbiage.. but he may have sincerely thought by bringing in Tionne and Natalie (the golfer?) that he was "falling on his sword" and would be the target. Donald didn't seem to consider sending him home, though. Trace Adkins DID have a DUI in 1991 (down toward the bottoom of: http://www.cmt.com/search/index.jhtml?searchterm=dui.
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:17 am
I'm still fuming about this. Yeah, I know. I have no life. The whole, "I hope she learned something" said by DT was more than condescending. As if he could teach her more than the class she needed to return to California for could. If he wasn't going to fire Clint, he could have fired the golfer for laughing out loud at the competitions video. I would have respected that more, even though it was Clint who should have been fired. As for Joan and Melissa, no one should be allowed to interfere when DT is critiquing the other team. And it started with a truth. Clint was telling DT that one of Joan's contributions was that someone spit on his hamburger and then he eats it. She did say that. But Melissa jumped on him saying "She did not!" Well, she did. I've noticed he hasn't mentioned Melania once this season. Other seasons he would mention her all the time. Trouble in paradise perhaps? I might be back with more after I stew a little more. 
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:28 am
I truly believe that Donald owes Khloe a public apology for berating her the way he did. DWI is a very serious offence, but she owned up to it and is doing everything that she is supposed to do. What he did to her last night was deplorable and absolutely uncalled for! By the way, I have not been a big Khloe fan as I have not seen her speak up and add anything to her team, but the reason she was fired had absolutely nothing to do with her contribution or lack of contribution to her team. Come on Donald....Man up and apologize. I certainly look my nose down at him for this!!!!!
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:33 am
Here's another that didn't bother Trump, apparently Vincent Pastore pleaded guilty to assaulting his fiancee in 2005 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Pastore Disappointed also btw by Ivanka's comment - yeah, bring in the half naked actress so my (married) dad can leer at her, then fire her (ho ho ho)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:39 am
I haven't read back thru the posts yet but... I just watched last night's show for the first time in weeks. And I have to say that Trump's reasons for firing both Tionne and Khloe were completely and utterly bogus. The ONLY reason he fired those two was because he didn't want to fire Clint or Melissa. What a total crock. Clint absolutely deserved to go, with the way he handled the task. And Melissa did, too, for allowing the beginning and ending of their vid to be offensive. It doesn't matter what's being searched, you can always tag a video. While I think the middle part of Athena's video was hilarious, I thought the entire Koto one was offensive.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:49 am
Just read back thru everything and... wow! For once it's almost unanimous in how we felt about last night's episode. I think Donald Trump acts like a hypocrit. He also acts like a sexist pig, and his drooling over women is the reason why I quit watching this show (last night not much was on so I recorded anyways). Finally, his double standard and totally inane reasons for firing the two women... whomever said "Trump, you're fired!" was spot on. I'm sorry. I'm done with this show. It's not worth my time. And I'm not willing to lose one single more brain cell watching this garbage. Costacat... OUT!
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:58 am
I've lost all my brane cells. That's why I watch 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:58 am
Annie said <100> too on her blog!! LOL
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 9:59 am
NOT to defend Donny, but I thought maybe it was more because her being on the show was keeping her from doing her requrements from the DUI arrest....kind of? As for Tionne.....wow, terrible!
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:14 am
This show and Trump are a joke!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 10:45 am
I think I recall Donald saying that if he had known she had a DUI he wouldn't have had her on the show at all. But apparently it's okay to have misc male drunks on the show. He was extremely complimentary and kind to Rodman. But was condescending and rude to Khloe. He was a jerk.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 11:26 am
I've never thought all that much of Trump but he seems to be increasingly erratic and his decisions are making less and less sense with every season. I agree that his treatment of the contestants and particularly the female contestants is very unprofessional. Sure he wants to keep the show interesting by keeping more intense people but this surely isn't the way to go about it.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:13 pm
The show is too long,I fall asleep half way thru every Sunday.Finished it today and it was a good episode. Chloe should not have been fired for that reason,I think he was just looking for any excuse to get rid of her.Probably Chole should have been fired a long time ago.I dont think she has contributed much of anything even when she was PM. I too am not defending Donald Trump,but Im with Laneesmom in thinking that DT's belief was if he had known she was still finishing up her DUI classes and such, he would not have had her on the show this season.I think he would have had her on the show nxt season,just not now.I think by the looks on Ivanka and Donald Jrs faces that they were surprised he fired Chloe too. I read where some think that Clint was being a jerk-but what about Joan.Jeez! Id hate to have to work with or for her.She's mean.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:24 pm
I needed to vent (so of course I rushed right over here lol). I'm totally with Aurora...I'm FUMING over these firings. Among other things, they insulted me as a viewer. Isn't this show allegedly about firing who does the worst job? Bad enough last week he turned the format into an intervention show vs a "doing a job/raising money for charity show" but at least there was a tie in to what happened on the task. First, how was Clint Black NOT fired??? He created that disaster, he wouldn't listen to anyone else, it was clearly all on him. Totally absurd. And what exactly did "T" do wrong other than not being the daughter of the star he wants to keep happy and therefore on the show??? GRRRRRRRR! Being someone who's boyfriend died thanks to a DUI, I certainly have a sore spot in this area. BUT that said, if this was the real world Trump would have been sued over this firing as it had nothing to do with the job Kim was doing. I'm no huge fan of anyone named Kardashian (I foolishly think people should be famous for having some talent not just willing to film their lives on TV). That said, she had no business being fired and I don't buy for one second Trump had no clue about her DUI. They even mentioned it in the past I'm pretty sure. This show has little legitimacy to begin with, and IMHO last night Trump destroyed that. Now it's clear he will just fire who he doesn't think is as popular or whomever he thinks he can stir the pot and get on a soapbox about. If he gets another go round not sure what celeb will be willing to sign on for this farce. And to think I was somewhat enjoying this season. I'm with my BB buddy Angelic on this...Trump and this show are now officially a joke (and a bad one at that!).
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:40 pm
Lakecat I agree that Joan was also being a Jerk! For all her, "Here are my ideas, take 'em or leave 'em as you see fit" she throws a big butt hissy fit when people don't fawn over her self proclaimed brilliance or they don't do what she wants. She was so unprofessional when meeting with the clients. BTW, she has written some really crappy stuff (Rabbit Test for example) and hasn't been funny in decades IMO.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:54 pm
Sugar, I'm not sure Joan would have been that abrasive if Clint has not 100% ignored any and all input from not only Joan but their entire team. She at least had the guts to try to get Clint to hear and allow them all to participate while the others were too scared to go there. Had Clint included the others and Joan acted as she did I'd agree with your point. But given how he basically took over the ENTIRE project and left his team without one thing to do, (not to mention LOCKING them out of the editing) I don't blame anyone's frustration towards him, including Joans. Plus think of her history. How absurd to have a comedienne of her stature on a team for a project like this, and how frustrating it must have been for her not to be allowed to even make any suggestions. Personally it was Clint who I think was the jerk. I had been a pretty big fan up until this show, but he had disappointed me up until now by his rude abd condescending attitude to so many. But last night dropped my chin. He basically was a dictator, not a project leader and I still can't fathom how he wasn't fired. No one should ever treat a team like that in any situation in life. Makes me wonder how he ever works with anyone, and makes me understand why he had to start his own label. I'd been sympathetic before thinking it was creative differences. Now I simply question if anyone can work WITH him or only FOR him. JMHO FWIW as always 
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Robok
Member
10-28-2003
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:58 pm
I totally agree with most of the above!! What he did to Chloe was really cold blooded.I felt sooooo bad for her. Buut I'll still watch.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:08 pm
Hi everyone. I'm using my hubbys account to voice my opinion about last nights show. Mark hates this show but for some reason I've been pulled in. That was up until last night. What he did to Khloe was hypocritical and degrading. I want to slap Mark because he said there was no way he would let Melissa and Clint go at this point but I thought he was stupid for saying that. I was stupid thinking the firing would be fair. I need to listen to him and just hush because he's usually right about this reality stuff. All for ratings. Obviously I'm not the only one who recalls Dennis Rodmans past DUI. but I guess Khloe is a better poster child of ridicule when it comes to all of that? ( Said with great sarcasm) Didn't Trump salvage the title of a former Miss USA named Tara like the house in Gown with the Wind and bragged about giving everyone a second chance in life? I guess the key for us women or rather women who want to remain working for Donald Trump is we have to parade on a table for him? Ok, that was another part that pissed me off. Can I say that he was a sexist pig for suggesting that? He's a married man for God Sakes and if I heard my husband say that. Well, he wouldn't. So he refused to fire his beauty queen ( see parading on a table ) for doing drugs while she was Miss USA and opted to give her rehab time and milked the whole thing in front of the camera's. So his whole soap box routine last night was CA CA. The dismissal of Tionne was pathetic so he could keep Melissa in the game but when he went off about someones past and then laid down 20,000 bucks to her charity I guess he figured he had bought the right to humiliate her for a few minutes as well. I'm not a fan of this show anymore. -Star
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:09 pm
Donald is a joke. I've seen pictures of him sipping Champagne. Maybe it was sparkling cider, but I highly doubt it. Chloe Kardashian's DUI was on their show. This show is stupid. I think it's painting people in a bad light.
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Ginger1218
Member
08-31-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:15 pm
Hey, I am liking C1Mag's wife as much as him. Both good writers
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:21 pm
Ginger, my husband and I love to discuss reality shows in depth but tvclubhouse has always been his zone to voice his opinion publicly so I've stayed away from posting here. Not today though. I was too pissed at last nights situation. Mark really needs to be a bit more creative with his one password he uses for everything I carried his babies I figured I'm allowed to do this. He's not going to care.
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:30 pm
About the "Clint locked them out of the editing room" debate. When the women are complaining about it, you can hear a male voice saying that it locks automatically. Maybe they should have knocked on the door? Just trying to be fair. Clint was a train wreck for the most part. Another thing, I liked when he said he wasn't going to make it personal when in the board room. Unlike Joan, who made it VERY personal.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:32 pm
I have such a hard time disliking Clint. He has said in interviews that the show edited him in a terrible light.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:45 pm
WOW Who knew Mark's wife was one of us!!!! Nice to finally meet you. And I so feel your pain/frustration/need to vent (see my first post today hehe). You should pull up a soapbox more often, especially since we seem to agree!!! Plus you can spell Khloe hehe. I don't get those all "K" Kardashian names, but right now they make more sense to me than last night's firings. BTW EXCELLENT point about how Trump went all out to save his scandal-ridden beauty queen, but here choose to be holier than though and unforgiving in this instance. And as memory recalls, wasn't his entire argument about 2nd chances? So why didn't that apply to his show here?!?! To me the only good thing about this is I did some web browsing out of curiosity and every place I poked my cyber nose in has just about everyone feeling Trump was totally wrong last night. Glad to know common sense isn't totally gone from the world. Aurora, even if the door auto locked, when they all were knocking shouldn't he have answered or better yet wanted his alleged team in there to begin with?? I do agree w/your making it personal point, though at that point I felt Clint was trying to save what little face he could, in much the same way as not bringing Joan into the board room. My blood pressure is still way too high over this. Usually only BB gets me this ticked off, but this nonsense really got under my skin.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 1:51 pm
Escapee, I say this as a long time fan of Clint Black, who has been disappointed in him this entire series. If he didn't behave as he did, NO editing could have made him look this bad. I could see if he hasn't just walked away when folks were telling him they want to talk as a team etc. But he clearly was rude and dismissive in his own words and unedited actions. Guess what I'm trying to say is I don't doubt he got a bad edit, but he did enough really negative things that no matter how he was edited, I think I would have lost a lot of respect for him. Hope that's clear. I think the editing may have made him look even worse than he was, but just based on clips of what it is clear he said and did, the edit seems to stem from a basis of truth. Where was he talking about this? Hope this show doesn't totally destroy my enjoyment of his music. Right now I just dislike him and lost respect, but don't hate him. Hope it doesn't get any worse lol.
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