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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I personally think Karen and Kevin are overrated. I find both of them offputting and although I am certain they are both great dancers (well, I'm certain Karen is a great dancer...not sure about Kevin) I wouldn't choose either of them to be my favorite. I think Jakob right now is my favorite and I like his pairing with Ashleigh, because I think he is a very mature dancer and I think her style of dance molds well with his. I like Ryan and Ellenore second and Russell and Noelle third. I think Mollee and Nathan are very cute and don't mind them sticking in the competition longer, although I prefer Mollee to Nathan. I think Channing has great potential but haven't seen it yet, and I have liked Legacy and Kathryn's dancing. I agree her costume this week was distracting, and think that Mollee should never wear that particular shade of yellow again - the color overwhelmed her.

If that makes me shallow then so be it...LOL!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Roxip, you can come sit over here on the shallow couch by me. I agree with almost everything you said.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I totally agree Stormie. I think when Nathan made that comment he was not being cocky but trying to stay positive and his nervousness just made him blurt that out. Mollee said nothing yet she got berated too. I'm 49, not a teeny bopper and I am on the Mollee and Nathan train. Not because they are cute. I don't even think Nathan is good looking. I think they are both phenomenal dancers and they just had an off week and I feel they deserve another chance. I was bored by Kevin and Karen and felt they did deserve to be in the bottom 3.

My favorites right now are Legacy, Russell, Jakob and Mollee.

I also don't tune in to see mean. Truth yes but not meanness. One reason I really like this show is the compassion that Cat shows for the contestants. Nigel is ruining that. I agree that he acted immature and unprofessional when speaking with Nathan. He was all pouty that America wasn't voting how HE thought they should. It's not Mollee and Nathan's fault that people voted for them.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 3:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Here are some pictures from the 11-11-09 elimination show.

Alvin Ailey American Dance Theater Perform "Episodes."
Official AAADT Website
Alvin Aily American Dance Theatre SYTYCD 11-11-09





Peter Sabasino and Pauline Mata


Cat Deely


Top 14


Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 9:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Did anybody else notice that giant bug clip in Cat's hair on the elimination show? Yikes! That was a little creepy! It was on the right side of her head, so you could only see it when she turned her head that way. Ick!!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Y'know looking at those pix... Cat is really a beautiful woman but she needs to have a talk with her stylist. Her hair, her makeup, her dress, and those shoes just did not work for her at all. Especially that dress!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
LOL, Costa, we were commenting about that on twitter Tuesday night, I think ...

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Love her, but dang Cat looked horrible on that show. Her makeup created dark shadows under her eyes, and I've gotta be honest, those stick-thin thighs worry me a bit (as did the hipbones jutting out of the dress the night before). I've read that she is her own stylist.

Oh and P.S. -- Russell is my fave. And call me silly, but I like Legacy more now that I know he plays soccer.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
She tends to wear things that make her look bigger on top. And it emphasizes her very thin legs. If she IS her own stylist, then she should stop and hire someone!!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I thought that dress made her look very flat-chested. I've never noticed that about her before. And the lizard dress the night before. Ay yi yi! She is awfully tall and thin. She makes them all look short!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 8:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I was very sorry to see Peter and Pauline go. I was trying to figure out what his dance was because I thought he pulled the quick step off wonderfully. They were adorable together and I don't agree one bit with Nigel (and the other judges opinions) that Pauline is more like classroom dancing. I see shades of last season's winner in her and she and Peter were my favs from the night before. I can't believe they keep letting the tap dancers go. They have so much more rhythym than the hip hop dancers. I wish the audience and at least the judges would have kept them.

I have to agree with womever said that Karen and Kevin are overrated. While she is pretty good; he's not that great and I would have so much rather have seen them go instead of Pauline and Peter.

Nigel was very rough on the dancers and somewhat to the audience. Does he really think the audience will then vote his way? Think again. I don't agree with much of what the judges say.The new judge talks too much.

Also, if these judges didn't want the audience to vote on cuteness; personality and performance (rather than technicality) perhaps they shouldn't have picked the people they did.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Monday, November 16, 2009 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Cricket, I agree with your last statement. Having watched the full season, which includes the try-outs, I picked up on a pattern amongst Nigel and the rest of the judges. Looks and personality get ranked ahead of dancing almost every season. And if you have all three traits, then all the better! There were some fabulous dancers who didn't get selected for top 20 at the last cut - who (for lack of a better way to say it) weren't the most attractive.

What I think we're witnessing is a TV show, like many others, who want skill, but are also looking for that "likeability" factor or that "good for TV" face! Again, this is just my guess. So if Nigel is upset at the way people are voting, then he should consider himself partially to blame. This isn't the first season, and it won't be the last, where the judges are upset over the teeny-boppers voting on their favorites instead of the dancers who are showing some kick-a$$ skills with their routines. Truth be told, some adults do the same thing!

With that being said, I do think he was a bit harsh on Mollee and Nathan, but did it with good intentions. I think he HAD to do it, because clearly, neither of them have matched either Karen or Kevin in their dancing ability. And since Mollee and Nathan's last routine (which was undoubtedly horrendous) wasn't up to par with anyone who should've made top 20, the point needed to be made. These two are obviously very good dancers or they wouldn't be in the top 20. But performances like that just won't cut it. I hope both of them put in the really HARD work this week and prove to us why they still belong on the show.

I also agree with Nigel that people are intimidated by Karen. The girl is good! However, the judges have been pouring the syrup too much already with their Karen lovefest, and that sometimes can turn off an audience, too. I don't see why she or Kevin should be punished for it, though. Both are great, and I hope they will be on the show for a very long time! IMHO, at this point, neither of them had any business being in the bottom 3.

But I did NOT agree with Nigel instructing the audience to shut up! That was completely unprofessional. No matter how he personally feels about the audience's mistake in keeping Mollee and Nathan safe, he has to remember that without the loyal audience, there wouldn't even BE a show.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Monday, November 16, 2009 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I disagree, there is a way to criticise the dance and not the dancer, which Nigel has been doing for the past two season, worse than I remember him ever doing. I don't think Nigel has to be vicious to anyone, he is choosing to do so; the other judges too when they do this. And I also disagree about Karen, I don't think anyone is intimidated by her "sensuality", as Nigel put it, that is such nonsense to me that he said that, certainly as a human she has that quality, but not all routines are sensual. She seems to be a very strong woman to me, gifted with dancing skills. And Nigel only seems to view her as sensual? Get real Nigel.

I used to point out how much I loved this show for not being vicious to the contestants, but I can't say that any longer. The dancing is wonderful, but missing NCIS for this, I don't know if it's worth it. I guess I'll decide tomorrow.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, November 16, 2009 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Great post, Chief. I'm in the middle about his lecture to Mollee/Nathan. While he did need to wake them up (re maturity and dance skills) it may have been better done out of the public eye. It was hard to listen to and see them squirm.

On the other hand, they signed up for this show at a young age, so maybe it will be good experience for them.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 2:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
How is being denigrated in general, let alone on tv, good for someone?

Chief
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08-09-2009

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 6:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Stormie, I don't agree that they were denigrated at all. What Nigel said was a bit strong, but they will not learn to discipline themselves if he (or any of the other judges) coddles them.

These dancers are stepping up to the plate and potentially crossing a bridge onto the professional stage. When they finish this show and really get involved into a full-fledged career, I hope they have developed thick skin by then.

The judges will do them a complete disservice in preparing them to be thick-skinned, if they keeping giving cutie pie remarks and soft taps for criticism. In the real world of auditioning for jobs as a dancer, these contestants will find themselves being screamed at, cursed out, and thrown out. Mollee and Nathan have to absorb the lesson in what happened and apply it to what they do from this point on, and get past hurt feelings, if there are any.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I agree, Chief. Both Mollee and Nathan needed to realize that this isn't playing any more. This is the real world and they needed to step it up. Their dance was absolutely horrid, and if they didn't get a reality smack, it's doubtful they would go far in either the show OR in real life. I'm positive the two of them would have been out if they'd been in the bottom. And they deserved to go, based on that dance. IF those two want to stay in the competition, even though it's "America's favorite dancer", they need to be able to dance in something besides their own style.

I don't think Nigel was rough on them at all. They signed up for the show, and they knew they would be judged on their dances. Nigel was absolutely honest. Mollee has already been called out about her dancing and she needs to start showing some maturity. Nathan needs to drop the cocky 'tude, too.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Who is Nigel to "teach" these contestants anything? I think he has been showing a horrible side to himself and that attitude doesn't translate into showing anyone how to be a professional on stage. I'm surprised he didn't hold his breath and stomp his feet when he didn't get his way. I do not believe Nathan was cocky in any way and he would be voted out if he were some hugely arrogant person. Who is Nigel to set the standards of what someone says? Who is he to teach anyone on how to behave, look at his behavior. Signing up for a show doesn't translate into some producer chastising them, that's not what they are there for. The dancers don't need to be coddled, but there is such thing as constructive criticism, which clearly Nigel lacks in knowledge of these days. Nathan is a nervous kid in a very new environment, what's Nigel's excuse?

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Here's the dance line up for tonight:

Kevin & Karen – Broadway – Spencer Liff
Ryan & Ellenore – Contemporary – Travis Wall
Nathan & Mollee – Pop Jazz – Laurieann Gibson
Russell & Noelle – Fox Trot – Eddie Simon
Legacy & Kathryn – Paso – Tony Meredith
Victor & Channing – Jazz – Tyce Diorio
Jakob & Ashleigh – Hip Hop – Napolean and Tabitha

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I only hope Legacy can rock that Paso.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Thanks Kooklie What a great line-up. I'm not sure who I like best just yet, but aside from Legacy, I hope Russell can pull off doing the Fox Trot. It should be a very interesting night.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Oh, I missed that one. It may be a tough night for Russell and Legacy.

Cwcoop
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04-19-2008

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cwcoop a private message Print Post    
IMHO - Legacy ROCKED that Paso. That was HOT HOT HOT.
I also thought Russell pulled off the fox trot just fine.
I am enjoying the flashbacks too. Whatta competition we have here.

Chief
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08-09-2009

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chief a private message Print Post    
Stormie asked:
Who is Nigel to "teach" these contestants anything?

Nigel Lythgoe is a professional who's been there and done that, so to speak. If I were a dancer, and had the choice between listening to advice from someone with Nigel's experience (even if it's grumpy sometimes) - or some nice guy with NO experience - I'd pick Nigel.

We can't really speak to whether or not either Mollee or Nathan were nervous. But one thing is for sure: If they were, I'll bet they'll check their "nervousness" at the door from now on, and just put on the performances of their lives in order to stay alive as contestants on the show.

Nigel doesn't have to have any excuses. We can like or not like what he said. Truthfully, I've disagreed with his statements from time to time, too. It doesn't really matter, though. The bottom line is that he has paid his dues! Here's a wikipedia link to check out his credentials:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Lythgoe

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 7:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I thought last night's show was head's and tail's over last week's. I really can't figure out who will be in the bottom 3, with possibly the exception of Karen and Kevin. I fear that Jakob and Ashleigh will be there simply because they were the first dancers (isn't that 2 weeks in a row?). I thought the lineup was outstanding. Russell and Noelle's foxtrot was fun and effortless. Legacy and Kathryn's paso was really intense. I loved Ryan and Ellenore's contemporary number and I even enjoyed the blackbird number (although now that I think about it they will probably be in the bottom 3 also - I agree - did not like that rendition of the song). I also thought Mollee and Nathan were much better than last week.

I don't think Nathan is that arrogant - I just don't get a whole lots of intelligence in that boy. Either that or he is totally self-obsessed (buy hey - he's an 18 year old boy - they tend to be self-obsessed). I do agree that he is as cute as they come and he and Mollee make a great pairing for that reason, but they need to listen to what the judges said last night and really bring something spectacular in the next few weeks or they will come off looking like a gimmick.