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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:10 am
I think Survivor finale is a couple of weeks away.
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:18 am
TAR and Survivor air on different nights on CBS. They won't be competing against each other. TAR and CA will be competing on different networks next Sunday.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:30 am
lol costa.. you really do like caustic! i nearly choked when i saw the list of trailblazers she was being compared to. i guess my standards exact more from those i will openly gush over. someone mentioned liz taylor earlier. now she is a super star. both in talent and self promotion and endurance even if it is only to hawk perfume. ETA sometimes things occur to me after I pull the trigger... i was critical of joan being mean about liz's looks and the queen of england. shows you what i DON'T know about self promotion. if i am a nobody and i can link my name to a somebody i can ride the cottails of their name into the public eye... hmmmm
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:37 am
I just checked CBS. TAR finale Sunday May 10th. Survivor Finale Sunday May 17th. Survivor finale is historically on a Sunday night -- 3 hours worth. So, the CA finale will only be competing with TAR. Yay.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:40 am
Joan got a free pass?! I missed that one. That's what I get for flipping channels to see Dr. Will on QVC.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 11:50 am
In years past, didn't the finale include the second hour of the final 2 task/challenge, with the first part being shown the previous week? I think that is why the finale is 3 hours this year. 2 hours for the challenge and 1 hour for the other stuff.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:12 pm
I don't think being a trail blazer allows anyone to have bad behavior, but I don't think someone's bad behavior negates the trails that they blazed. but i agree...a 3 hour finale??? torture!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:34 pm
I'm sorry but I don't think any trailblazing that Joan may have done IN THE PAST gives her a free pass to be caustic now IN THE PRESENT. Well, we reach an age where we stop playing nicey nicey and say whatever we please. People who have known me a long time can't believe some of the things I say and do. I figure, I've lived almost 70 years, who cares what people think? If you want to hear caustic, go to an old age home. They are hysterical in the things they say.
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:39 pm
My view on Annie is that she is playing a terrific game. She is unprecedently analyzing and ultimately twisting and molding each teammate where each need to be to set her up in the most favorable light each week. As a poker player myself, I love watching her portray this "who, what, lil 'ol me" whilst batting eyelashes and snickering to herself like "MUAHAHAHAH" as she sees things coming into place as she had it all planned out. On the other hand, personally being old enough to remember Joan pre-Johnny Carson, I love her comedy and wit. Talk about sharp...my goodness, she's 75, hard to fathom. Yes, there was a period, I think in the 80's, that I didn't personally care for her type of humor as I thought it was too abrasive but I laughed when I watched and almost felt ashamed for doing so. Although her styles have changed over the years, seeing her now on The Apprentice, I see her zinging little one-liners such as the two plastic surgeries needed for Annie if she ever gets a face-lift, I can't help but lmao. I also have to keep reminding myself...this is television, it is for entertainment purposes and I am being entertained, I love this season. 
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:42 pm
Gender norms are so ingrained in our society that we seem not recognize the double standards we exhibit. If Annie were a man....she would be applauded for the masterful game she has played....instead she is called a "mean girl" "a con" and multiple other derogatory names. I agree with the poster who pointed out the similarities btw The Donald and Annie. They are a lot alike. Both very strong and dominant personalities also. No one need worry about Joan River's "mental health"....while she may be an overprotective mother lion...her mind is all there. While some call her "irrelevant", she is a survivor, very successful businesswoman, spokes person, and comic. She does very good for herself, at any age. I am not the least dismayed over the 3 hour finale....it is always our choice whether or not to watch. Now I think I will go put my Joan River's reading glasses on and do some studying...lol
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Redpen
Member
07-24-2003
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:47 pm
Guess I'm in the minority, I still like Joan. I don't like Annie. But, BOTH are superstars as women in their own fields. Not worth debating, IMO. Annie will certainly win the season, because Trump mainly cares about fund-raising. For that reason he should have kept Brandy so there would be close competition. I think he only kept Joan to bolster ratings because of the controversy. Don't forget Apprentice UK starts tomorrow. It's going to be better than this trainwreck.
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:52 pm
Is it really believed that Annie is a superstar? I guess I should read back some to get the vibe, but I was assuming nobody really even knew who she was. I don't think there is one person in our office who knew she existed (no poker fans there).
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:25 pm
I think it's a setup and that some of those "mutual friends" of Trump and Rivers will come through at the last minute.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 1:45 pm
I think you could be right, Puzzled.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:07 pm
Ditto Puzzled.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:07 pm
Puzzled good point. I was thinking on those lines as well that Trump would privately help Joan with the win as well. Who knows? But annie does appear to be the type of controversial character that usually wins stuff like this. By the way, I have loved reading every ones comments about this show on this board and then putting in some of my own thoughts. Very fun around here. I don't tell many people how addicted I am to this show so this is a great outlet to find others who are watching and have an opinion. I think I may be the only one who has called annie a con artist so I will own that thought and I stand by that. JMHO when it comes to that. When she is bluffing in cards for the win in my opinion she is conning every single player at that table. When she worked someone like Brande into praising her on camera she was conning Brande for that praise. She was setting Brande up. Brande in hind sight should feel slightly stupid for playing Annies game and paid more attention to Joan who saw Annie for what she was. If Brande would have distanced herself from Annie instead of looking like her right arm she could have went head to head with her in the end. As for annie you can't deny Annie was good at what she did but then the question is, is that what you do to win this contest? Or can the winner find a happy medium and not go as far as Annie? Her life is playing a game so I think this was something a bit more for her and she gets too caught up in it. Her comments in the board room to try and con Trump and the other execs into believing she lets things roll off her back fall short when you see her outside the board room b!tching and name calling in almost an obsessive manner. She instigates most of the negativity but doesn't hold herself accountable most of the time. I'll give Joan credit for telling her what she thought of her to her face. I am looking fwd to the final 3 hours and I swore when he fired the one for having a prior dui I'd never watch it again and I did. I got conned . Thanks for letting me rant. Starla
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:19 pm
I don't know so much about that, due to game show rules, it has to be legitimate. More importantly, Annie wouldn't be part of it if she wasn't allowed to have a chance at a win.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:36 pm
Im alone in this thought but I liked Melissa and thought she was a pretty good player.I would have liked to have seen a Annie/Brande Vs. Joan/Melissa finale. Im not interested in the distraction that the returning players(Rodman) will bring.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:38 pm
I don't think that game show rules apply to reality television shows. Also the final decider is Trump anyway and he can base his decision on any reason he can come up with (LOL - as we've seen in the past).
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:56 pm
"If Annie were a man....she would be applauded for the masterful game she has played....instead she is called a "mean girl" "a con" and multiple other derogatory names." If a man were acting the way Annie has acted I'd be using names that would end up as red dots on this board. I actually gave her a little slack because she is a woman in a man's world. To me there is nothing worse than a man who bullies, intimidates, manipulates and lies to get people to do his bidding. Annie may have that learned behavior only because of her chosen occupation which is another reason why I have so little regard for gamblers.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 2:59 pm
You may have had some bad experiences but there are many nice people who enjoy doing a little or a lot of gambling on occasion.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 3:35 pm
I was not an Annie fan in the beginning, but I just saw her on The Ellen Show, and I'm now a fan. She made several very good points: 1. This is a reality show about a fake job and getting fake fired. 2. She went into this thinking it would be professional. 3. Yes, she was really hurt by the namecalling. But she refused to give Melissa or Joan power over her by acknowledging the insults hurled. (She did go home and cry to her BF.) 4. She called the commissioner to find out if she could say "*hor*" pit viper at the tables. She didn't say if she could or not. I laughed my butt off. She really doesn't understand why Joan and Melissa made it so personal. I have to say, I was very impressed, and have a lot more respect for Annie now.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 3:53 pm
I saw her on Ellen too. I disagree with her statement about not getting involved in the name calling (at least not to their faces), but I thought her calling the commissioner was a hoot!!! I loved Ellen saying 'but this is the kind of thing you watch reality tv for' (when referring to Joan's blow up). Cost, i thought you weren't watching this show or am i thinking of someone else? (the mind is going! LOL) I think she has an uncanny knack for always coming off as the voice of reason or very rational while she is manipulating everyone. (she has kind of an Eddie Haskell quality) I do think she is probably one of the best 'game players' they had.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 3:58 pm
Annie manages to be alternately openly aggressive and passive-aggressive. Where she said things she said doesn't make them unsaid. Of course Annie has her fans; I'm not one of them. Plenty of nice people gamble (though plenty of them cannot control it.. that's why Vegas has more anonymous groups than other places) but some aren't nice and Annie's one of those. I don't think she is the way she is because she's a gambler, and I don't think she has to carry what works for her at the tables into the rest of her life (and really, I hope she doesn't, but she sure does in her blogging and on Celebrity Apprentice and on other shows as she makes the rounds and gets the extra attention she obviously craves. (and of course she isn't the only one craving attention.. Joan, Melissa, etc.. Oh and TRUMP, who undoubtedly is reveling in the "glory of it all".. all these people for him to encourage or belittle, but all bring more attention to him. In Annie we see someone using the word "I" more than does Donald!)
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, May 04, 2009 - 4:39 pm
Annie, I'm not watching the show. I happened to catch 2 minutes last night by accident. I quit watching around the time Khloe was fired.
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