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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 11:50 am
In Colorado, the docs are saying that seasonal flu isn't even here yet - all of the flu cases are H1N1; and it is VERY widespread here. The at risk groups for H1N1 are those, but pregnant women are more at risk than with seasonal flu. In addition, already as many children have died from H1N1 as in a *whole* year of seasonal flu. The reason *healthy* people are often dying unexpectedly is that H1N1 seems to carry a higher risk for co-infection, that is pneumonia, strep or bronchitis coming along with it. My own DS had strep with it. It would not be wise, IMO, to take this as lightly as seasonal flu. As I watch a young football player in our area - 18 and very healthy - lie in the hospital in a medically induced coma to aid his recovery, I am reminded that this is NOT seasonal flu.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:08 pm
All I saw on Twitter was Maks saying good things about "Jo" and even defending Debi, since he had obviously gotten tweets that were not flattering about her, and Joanna saying nice things about Maks. I'll leave it to them to know what happened. Costacat, do you mean Louie? Louis danced the paso doble last night, with Kelly. Actually, with H1N1, they aren't considering elderly to be a major targe, oddly enough.. people over 60 won't be allowed to get the vaccine unless they have other immunity problems. H1N1 not available to that group, but regular flu vaccine is or will be. And they are saying here (So Cal, where DWTS is airing) that H1N1 definitely goes deeper and is causing more pneumonia. But even if it was just a cold, since they are on such a tight schedule I wonder why more weren't taking simple precautions.. not just the mask but lots of handwashing, etc. One of the cancer patients I drive has already spent time in the hospital, though she claims she got the pneumonia AT the hospital.. but her visiting son also caught a virus. And even if there was NO concern medically, if one of the non professional dancers catches something that keeps them from performing it is likely to mean they are out of the show, something I assume most of them do NOT want to happen. Certainly I'm thinking Melissa and Joanna definitely want to stay in and are quite competitive about it. And why would Melissa take chances of bringing it to her kids? At least her partner had a mask, but Derek was projecting all over that place! And with Argentine Tango you kind of have to get up close and personal and hold hands as well.. all the things they tell us to avoid with the flu. Joanna reported having a sore throat last night on Twitter.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:11 pm
Right! I think some of them should have been sent home immediately to recover. Instead, they let them practice and get worse and expose more people.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:28 pm
Not to mention all the doorknobs at the studio 
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:38 pm
Doorknobs? Yeah I guess..LOL
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:41 pm
"Costacat, do you mean Louie? Louis danced the paso doble last night, with Kelly." Whoops, yeah, Louie! (We've got a guy in the office who's name is "Louis" but it's pronounced "Louie". Spending most of the past 2 days troubleshooting with MY Louis, I got the spelling wrong!) Sorry, but I'm seeing a lot of people getting all freaked out about H1N1 for not a whole lot of reason. And seasonal flu IS widespread here in California. Of course, YMMV.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:48 pm
I heard on the radio recently that the older population (born before app. 1950) may have some residual built-in immunity due to the flu pandemic of 1918 in which 50 million people died world-wide.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 12:54 pm
http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/dpp/news/local/1016_CDC_children_swine_flu_deaths ((Another article on it, this one has more statistics)) My grandfather and his brothers and sisters had the flu that went around in 1918. He would have been 9 years old. They all almost died. It was terrible.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 1:54 pm
I think Louis also pronounces his Louie, just making it even more confusing..That pandemic might have killed one of my uncles.. he was very young, like under 5. I can see that my parents probably had that immunity but unless it is inherited, wouldn't think I would. I was around for Asian flue in the 50s and Hong Kong flu ( I had that for sure, just terrible..) in the late sixties. It is also thought that people who were around in the fifties AND have had flu shots over the years may have better immunity. I mostly don't want to catch it, well of course because I don't want flu and I had pneumonia as a child and came way too close with Hong Kong flu.. my doc xrayed and said it was awfully close. But I also don't want to get something that I might pass along to my cancer pts when I drive them, and then not be able to drive for a few days.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:09 pm
As the mother of an asthmatic child, the swine flu is horribly scary for me. I'm not worried about getting mildly sick or her getting mildly sick. I'm worried about devastating illness, like some kids are getting, or death. Shakes me to my core.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:13 pm
Same with my sister. Her oldest is asthmatic. My cousin David is one of the top children's oncologists in the country and he says if you can get the vaccine for your children, do it.
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Weinermr
Member
08-18-2001
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:19 pm
<I heard on the radio recently that the older population (born before app. 1950) may have some residual built-in immunity due to the flu pandemic of 1918 in which 50 million people died world-wide.> The same thing was said on 60 Minutes on Sunday night. Evidently there were strains of the flu similar to H1N1 circulating in the 30's and 40's. People exposed to those flu viruses, or who had them, likely have antibodies that will protect them from the current H1N1.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:45 pm
From the cases I've seen, your child does not need to be asthmatic to be one that is suddenly seriously ill. Again, the football player that had H1N1 caught pneumonia on top of it. They had taken him to the doctor the day before, doc said it was flu, no big deal. Then he took a shower and within five minutes had completely lost normal coloration and was greyish blue. The pregnant woman I know about was also in medical coma. They had to remove the baby by C section, and *bypass* the woman's blood so they could oxygenate it with a machine, or she would have died, essentially of suffocation. This is not normal influenza. I'm not suggesting getting freaked out, but if you or your children get it, I'm also not suggesting you just treat it as seasonal flu. You have to be constantly on guard in case it suddenly turns deadly. Normally healthy people do not die from seasonal flu. Normally healthy people are dying from H1N1. It's a sobering reality.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:49 pm
I was born in 1946. I got flu shots in the early '60s with my parents and never since. (Those shots HURT.) I was quite sick with a virus (flu?) in August '81 -- 104.5 temp, etc., etc. Never since. I very rarely get colds or the like. Flu does not worry me.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 2:56 pm
Now, I'm sure glad I'm as old as I am.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 3:00 pm
It may be easy not to worry until your own child gets it. Then it's quite a bit more difficult... as I learned.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 4:16 pm
When I saw my doctor last friday we chatted about H1N1 and she said that the deaths that have occurred aren't any higher than normal flu seasons, but that the very young and pregnant women are at the greatest risk. She actually said if she was pregnant she would be very paranoid about this flu and if I would be around any children 6 months or younger I would need to be vacinated.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 5:22 pm
Dipo, the death statistic is misleading. The deaths are already *equal* to a full season of regular influenza in terms of number of *child* fatalities; and H1N1 is not over. The hospitalizations are highest in children 6 to 18, not the under 5 set as in seasonal flu. 25% of the hospitalized cases are in that age range to be exact. From WebMd: Oct. 20, 2009 - H1N1 swine flu has turned flu death statistics upside down, the CDC today confirmed. In a normal flu season, 90% of deaths are in elderly people. Since September, 90% of deaths have been in people under age 65 -- with almost a quarter of the deaths in young people under age 25. There may be fewer fatalities, but the fatalities are greatest in pregnant women and children. There are few fatalities in the over 65 set.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 5:55 pm
Yes, it is a pretty scarey flu.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:18 pm
Mark & Lacey / safe Donny & Kym / safe Mya & Dimitry / safe
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:27 pm
Joanna & Derek / jeopardy (Derek is there) Kelly & Louis / safe Aaron & Karina / jeopardy I hope it's "bye bye", Aaron.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:32 pm
Michael & Anna / safe Natalie & Alec / jeopardy
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:38 pm
Jonathan and Anna danced to Norah Jones singing "Come Away With Me". Tom said it was their wedding song.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:44 pm
Louie & Chelsie / safe Melissa & Mark / jeopardy
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - 6:53 pm
Derek is dancing in the MJ tribute number. A camera shot....I think it was Chelsie (doesn't matter who) was being held up-side-down with legs split. Overhead camera was shooting straight down at her with legs split -- so her skirt had fallen down over her head and torso. What was the point of that? Not being a prude about it -- just who thought that was a worthwhile "angle"?
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