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Aurora
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11-24-2006

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
"Melissa was supposed to help anyone who needed help and also man the front desk when it was too busy for one person to handle."

Melissa certainly stayed under the radar this week. Do you think it was intentional?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
No. I just think people judge her too harshly. But time will tell for sure...

Aurora
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11-24-2006

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aurora a private message Print Post    
I guess my point was, she really wasn't given a specific task like the others did. I don't remember her helping any of the others, even though they seemed pretty busy. All I recall her doing is suggesting that Tionne should be PM.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Melissa did show up to clean rooms, but said it was "unfair" that she should have to do it. At a later time she was sitting next to mommy and watching her work. I suspect Joan had a little talking to Melissa in private and told her to tone it down. Joan is a very smart woman.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
The Boardroom was painful to watch last night. I felt like I was watching something I shouldn't have been a witness to, it was very intense and personal. Jesse seemed very sincere in his concern for Dennis and Clint seemed to try to include Dennis but Dennis just insisted on being Dennis on doing his own thing. He appears to have serious problems and needs something to be meaningful in his life. I hope he gets and accepts the help he needs. I too, noticed the AA message at the end of the program....sort of confirmed the boardroom message to Dennis...you have an alcohol problem and need to get help. Very sad episode.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
I didn't think the boardroom was painful.
It is certainly unfortunate when someone screws up their life. Dennis, IMO, demonstrates that he is one of those people who has never let go of their glory days and thinks it gives him a pass through life. Hope he gets a grip and is able to overcome his drinking problem. Working with someone like that would be excessively frustrating. I doubt I would have been as forgiving towards Dennis' shenanigans if I had been a team member.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
What stopped me regarding Dennis was when he said "I can kick anyone's ass at anything"

I thought "Gee Dennis, except in Football against Mr. Walker, or in Motorcycle/car building against Jesse, you can't outplay Clint on the guitar, nor can you outsing him, and you can't outdo Bryan on the piano."

Then he was going on about how he WAS a champion....was, in Basketball but a loser in life. That's sad. ITA Sugar, can't get past his glory days.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The clips I saw showed Dennis in that uniform being loud and yelling about cookies and it did show Melissa saying it wasn't fair, but it also showed her making beds.

Another clip was in the boardroom, and another where he went off on Bryan and vice versa in a cab or limo.

I think it is painful, and I hope Dennis gets help.

I didn't see the part where he took anyone to dinner, but that paying his way thing is what he does.. in Newport Beach he'd have a totally out of control party, land helicopters illegally. Loud, drinking, and then "buy off" some of the neighbors by partying with them. Didn't impress ALL of the neighbors or the cops. And his business was a constant source of calls to the police, too.

Too bad he doesn't just figure out that if he acts decently and treats people well, he doesn't HAVE to be so generous, though of course it can be nice to take people out.

Thanks, Sugar, for the recap.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I thought it was both sad and uncomfortable, too. I have a lot of empathy for Rodman. I hope he does get help. Most alcoholics say that their personalities were totally different when they were into their addiction.

I was thinking about this today. I wonder if he agreed for this to be exposed and discussed. It seems to me that if a celebrity is called out for being an alcoholic on national TV, he had to agree to having it exposed. I'm sure they have to sign something in the beginning saying they won't object to certain things being shown. But, this was different and so very personal that I just feel like he either 1. Is so into his addiction he doesn't care, or, 2. Agreed it was time to get help so wanted it all shown.

I know I could be way off base, but those were just my thoughts after the show aired.

I will be curious to see how Dennis is doing and whether he's seeking help or not.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
They definately showed a different side to Dennis... and I thought it was foreshadowing something the way they kept showing him going to the kitchen to get vodka and cranberry juice. Most people are in awe of Dennis...

I thought it was sad how he thought he would defend himself by using Phil Jackson (Bulls coach) as a defense - to me that is more telling of Phil's character on how Phil must still keep up with Dennis... I of course was taken aback when he said he was better than Jordan! (and of course he didnt even mention Scotty Pipen!) Yes, those were glory days, and at the same time - there are (Charles Barkley aslo comes to mind) stars that have been pampered, and ego'd so much due to their great sport ability... that they dont have touch of reality...

I admire Herschal, always have - and it seems to me he does (did?) a lot of speaking engagements on his faith... ok - just googled Herschal, did not know he suffers from dissociative identity disorder...

I thought it interesting tho how Dennis did take the intervention - he was defensive, but not angry, didnt get up and walk out, didnt yell... and it seems Joan Rivers and Dennis have a nice friendship...

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I thought Rodman was a joke when he was IN his glory days. Sure, he's "unique" but I knew then that it was a trainwreck approaching.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sugar a private message Print Post    
You are welcome Seamonkey.

I agree Escapee, I thought it was obvious when Dennis was playing basketball that a whole lotta trouble, of his own making, was coming his way.
I'm getting pretty tired of pseudo celebrities behaving badly and being lauded for these inane actions or activities. That some are considered role models boggles the mind. I can admire someone's athletic prowess, but obnoxious "above it all" attitudes and activities lessens any talent they may have. Too bad no one says "Shame on you" or "hey, straighten up".
I suppose it all comes down to $.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I hope this doesn't seem horrible, but I think it's hard to feel sorry for Dennis. In general it's hard to feel sorry for someone rich who has the world by it's tail but they act like an ass.

Can you imagine the great fun if Dennis had actually dressed in a wedding dress in that last challenge? Instead, he disappears.

I really don't have any available tears for someone like Dennis.

eta: I was about to gag when the guys were saying how great he is except for the drinking. Well, I watched him on Big Brother UK, and he isn't so wonderful even not drinking.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I think it is easy to have compassion for anyone who has any kind of addiction. Rich or poor. Dennis may be rich, but that does not make being an alcoholic any less painful.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
It's not just rich, Julieboo, it's the fact that he isn't really a nice person to begin with, drunk or sober. I think he is just tolerable while sober. Not wonderful while sober.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
He's had a bad attitude since I first heard of him, back in the 90s heyday of the Bulls. I never thought he did anything more for the Bulls than they did w/out him. But I will be sympathetic to anyone with an addiction. That however, does not exempt him from me thinking he can be an ass!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Ok, I can agree with that, Julieboo :-)

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
Well, I'm glad Dennis is "fired"! The men's team sure had alot of tolerance for him.

I kept thinking that the model, Brande reminds of someone - I got it - It's Shannon Tweed (Gene Simmons sig. other). Anyone else see the resemblance?

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I watched it online today. I found the boardroom part very, very sad.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Texasdeb...yes, she reminds me of Shannon Tweed as much as all of Hef's former girlfriends do. Brande was one of them when he had seven or eight. She was in the Brande, Candy, Mandy, Sandy, Randi phase.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
I agree with both Naja and Julieboo. Dennis Rodman is famous now for being famous, a professional celebrity, if you will. He, at one time, played basketball. I don't think this gives him a pass for his boorish behavior, ( although most celebrities get away with horrid behavior). It's unfortunate that a man, with so much celebrity and the money that goes along with this, acts in such a terrible manner. Alcohol addiction is a very sad, debilitating thing, but at least he has the money to do something about it, where most people probably have to grapple with this addiction with no support and no money. It was very sweet of Jessie to say something about Dennis being the best athlete of all time ( or some such craziness), but he's just a big guy with a bad attitude and a drinking problem.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Monday, March 30, 2009 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
The Boardroom was very sad last night. The problem with addiction of any kind is it really is a sickness and no one can help but the person with the addiction. It also doesn't matter whether you are rich or poor, it doesn't discriminate. I think Dennis is very sad and I hope that he sees the light and gets the help that he needs. It will save his life.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
My admiration for Jesse just keeps growing and growing each week. I never knew of him before the show and I love his down-to-earth attitude and how he lovingly but firmly confronted Dennis about his addiction. Compassion is a word tossed around lightly this past decade, but this was a real example of what compassion is IMO. Jesse is someone that everyone would love to have as a friend because he is a straight-shooter and can articulate his opinion so well. That was so powerful when he compared Dennis to Herschel - it really is about what are you doing now and not what you achieved in the past.

Sandra has got one heck of a husband if he is like this in real life.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I loved Jesse on Monster Garage. He always seems like such a class act and stand up guy. I don't know what happened with his former wife, so I have no opinion on that. I remember seeing him with his boys and it was so sweet. He just seems like and easy going mellow guy. I'd love to see him win this. Him or Clint.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, March 31, 2009 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Beach, ITA! I would love to see him win. I have always been a Joan fan, since her Tonite show guesting days! I just love to watch her in action on this show, she really is great at this! I think the industry gives her a bum rap