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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 12:47 pm
Irina winning is as bad a feeling as it was when Richard Hatch won on Survivor or when that oh so very negative woman <name ?> won on the AR. Bah humbug
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:12 pm
Marameko, do you mean Flo on TAR? I wanted to give the whole million to her boyfriend Zach for having to deal with her at all lol. It really is hard to watch somebody with such a negative personality win, isn't it?
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:33 pm
I was disappointed that Irina won too. Didn't like her attitude and I thought other than the helmets, her collection was boring (black). I wonder if she would have been as gracious as Carol Hannah and Althea were if one of them had won?
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Knightpatti
Member
12-06-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:55 pm
Was not happy with the winner either. I would have prefer Carol or Althea over her. I did not think their was much variety in her collection. I have the big sweaters. Personally, I could see no one wearing her clothes.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 4:04 pm
I just didn't find her clothing line to be interesting, unique, or attractive. Boring.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:23 pm
Based on all of the comments above, I'm not even sure I'm gonna watch the recording I have of the finale. I did see the pix (before we knew who's collection was whose), and from what I saw I did NOT like Irina's at all. I also bits of it on GMA this morning, or was it The Today Show? At any rate, those oversize sweaters are absolutely hideous. What's even worse is that the sweaters will eventually grow on their own and be even more oversized and ugly. I also hated her color palette. Or lack thereof. Black may be banging in NYC but it is NOT the end-all and be-all of clothing here in SoCal!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:25 pm
I didn't mind any of them, but I guess none of the collections knocked my socks off.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:40 pm
Boy, I think this was the most completely WRONG outcome in all seasons of PR. To me Carol Hannah was the CLEAR winner. She had, to my eyes, the only interesting, fashion forward line that made use of various colors and textures. I thought Althea's was by far the worst. Bad sportswear, nothing I found interesting or pretty, and the only colorful piece was what she was wearing. I simply hated her collection, which disappointed me as I thought she had done far better work all season. Irina...where to start. Even if she hadn't been one of the meanest, most unlikable personalities in PR history I don't feel this was a winning collection. I will give her credit for her amazing sweaters. She has a real flare for them, and IMHO that is what she should do in this industry. That said, I've been to funerals that weren't as somber. Aside from the sweaters, there wasn't a piece I found captivating, innovative or interesting. Just because she tied the line together with those ugly caps, I feel they felt she was the only true collection. However, I'd rather see a collection of higher quality pieces, that kept my interest and that I could see people wearing, such as Carol Hannah's. Yes, I do agree, at times I didn't see the collective thread. But overall it was so far superior I can't believe it didn't win. I truly wondered if they simply wouldn't let someone who wasn't a fashion school graduate win? Because beyond that, I can't even guess why they would let either of the other inferior BORING collections win? Hope this isn't the future of PR. Challenges that were no where near as creative or as well executed as the past, with a final fashion show that I think was the one of the lowest qualities, not the highest as they tried to convince us. To be honest, all 3 designers were a let down. Sorry, but of those 3, I think CH was robbed!
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 5:53 pm
Did you guys hear that Irina pretty much plagiarized from New York Magazine with her "Reasons to Love New York" t-shirt? I just now read about it over on TWoP and googled it to be sure. LINK 1 LINK 2 I actually felt she deserved the win, but whoa, this is not cool. She could get in legal trouble here.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:06 pm
Although some are arguing that it is "transformative." I don't really know the legalities, but seems she should have gotten permission first.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:07 pm
Hermoine, how amazing ironic after how hard she went after Althea for stealing her ideas. Very interesting indeed. Hope they sue her BIG TIME! Those were so specific and unique, in your first link that I can't see any way it wasn't a direct copy. Considering I felt she didn't deserve to win, now I'm truly outraged and even more disappointed! ETA just saw your 2nd post. If transformative (a phrase I don't know) is fair use, (one I do lol) don't they have to give credit to justify the use and state "no copyright infringement intended." An example of this are YouTube clips.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:09 pm
I know! I was so surprised when I read that, Lurk. Gosh.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:57 pm
If it's true, I'm horrified. Especially after she was told by Tim that she couldn't use the iconic Coney Island images that she originally had on her tees. So she really can't claim ignorance, can she? She's really kinda of distasteful, isn't she?
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:08 pm
I'm last on the fashion diva list, but even to me these clothes were snooze city. I also found it interesting that two of the girls (Irina and ??) had those huge, long, bell shaped sweater sleaves. They looked enough alike I thought it was the same designer for a minute. I love Tim - but if PR keeps on this road, I'll be searching for him elsewhere.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:18 pm
FWIW, Project Runway has pretty much been completely panned for a lousy season everywhere. So unless they do something quick, I don't think the move to Lifetime is really gonna be the lifeline they hoped (no pun intended).
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:45 pm
i did get rather tickled at how frazzled Tim got before the runway shows trying to get everyone going. he is normally so composed.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:52 pm
Teach, I so hear ya! What I'm hoping is that it's like Survivor. Once every few seasons you just get a cast that's a complete snoozefest and it's a lousy season. And all the challenges seem stale and repeats. Then everyone talks "has the show run out of steam finally" then come the next one it's filled with characters and it's one of the better seasons. So I'm gonna try to be optomistic unless they have another lousy season in a row. Also, not sure being in LA worked well for them. What I found ironic is IF they were going to be there, you'd think they really would have made use of the West Coast fashion industry and esp the Hollywood glamor. But aside from that one film challenge there was hardly a thing. What a wasted IMHO. And Teach, don't forget in an earlier show, the sweaters are what they were fighting about. I'm still not sure I felt that Irina was copied from, since they did both sketch it and buy the material for it before they saw what the other was doing. Think it was similar designer styles. After all, both their collections were, IMHO dark, boring and a bit similar in other ways. Gosh is right Hermione!! Wonder if Irina will try to talk her way out of this one in her usual condescending, snippy tone? I'm still curious when they show originally taped. I know they got caught up in all the legal messes, but wasn't this filmed awhile ago?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:55 pm
PS Texannie, SO TRUE! I've never seen Tim frazzled like that lolol. He's always sooo mellow. Wonder if the show went off late or not? So hard to tell with the "magic of TV" lol. But face it, these 3 were all young with little, if any, industry experience. In the past we had finalists who had worked for companies with runway experience. I think these 3 had no clue and it showed. Also POOR Carol Hannah!!! I can't imagine being that sick and doing what she did. What lousy timing for her!
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 8:58 pm
I liked Carol Hannah's collection the best. Didn't care for Althea's or Irina's. All black, ugly sleeves hang down to your knees sweaters. My boobs are doing that all by themselves, don't need the arms down there as well. I suppose they could hike the boobies back up, but....
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Aurora
Member
11-24-2006
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 9:09 pm
I would have loved to see what Epperson's collection would have looked like. I loved his designs and think he really got robbed when he was eliminated for his wedding dress remake when Logan's ill-fitting pants were are worse. Not to mention Christopher's "garbage bag".
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 10:16 pm
I'll keep my fingers crossed, Lurk - like you said, maybe this will be the kick in the pants they need to find some great designers for next season. I do truly hope they go back to NY.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 10:19 pm
I would have loved to seen Shirin's collection if she had stayed. She was my favorite and she should have never been eliminated for that dress.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:33 pm
I read somewhere that they are going back to NYC. I wish that Ramon, Epperson, and Shirin had all stayed. I am not sure if I am going to watch the final either; I keep thinking I "should", but have seen the photos of all the collections and so bummed by who won that I don't know if I want to actually spend an hour watching.
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Kellsma
Member
08-27-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 1:25 am
I am pretty sure the filmed in LA because that is where Heidi and Seal live primarily so maybe she asked for it for her family's sake but if it did not work then i am sure they will be back in NYC. I too was unimpressed with this season and I will agree with most everyone on the board that Carol Hannah definitey should have taken this.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, November 21, 2009 - 7:26 am
Carol Hannah was robbed.
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