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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:02 pm
<--- high fives Cablejockey!
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:02 pm
yeah!!!
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Thorandtara
Member
09-15-2008
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:02 pm
ABSOLUTELY believe Joan deserved to win on this on!!! Very happy about it!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:02 pm
Yippee, now I will watch it. If that trash poker player had won, I couldn't watch at all.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:03 pm
<--- another high five for Thora!
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:03 pm
Finally---a show where I am happy about the winner1
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Thorandtara
Member
09-15-2008
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:04 pm
Hukd, I thought it was Boogie that won over Janelle? ;)
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:05 pm
Oh yeah, you're right! Ewwww, it's even worse that Boogie beat her!!
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:05 pm
Boogie--Dr. Will--who could tell. They were basically the same person.
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Thorandtara
Member
09-15-2008
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:05 pm
High five right back atcha!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:06 pm
YAAAA Joan!!!! I'm so glad she won!!!!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:14 pm
Wow. I'm surprised, but not necessarily displeased. I think I could've been pulling for Annie if she hadn't patted herself on the back so many times. She certainly was strategic. Trump was pretty twisted in the way he made his announcement. You could see Annie starting to clasp her hands and gasp for joy until she realized he said "fired" instead of "hired." Doesn't he usually say "you're hired" in the finale? Complaining about the conduct he allowed in the boardroom may not have been her best idea, but Trump had probably already made up his mind by then anyway. I'd love to know what David Tutera has to say about all of that mess.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:33 pm
OH MY GOSH I'm so cheating and checked who won before the show started here. Tom Green just said something I've said all along. This was not just about raising money but they were suppose to be applying for a fake job and Tom said he didn't think "in the real world" Annie could keep the job and people would quit on her very quickly. Thats what I've said about her all along. So glad Joan won. Now I can watch and enjoy knowing how it turns out Love this place and thanks for letting me use my hubbys member name to voice my crazy opinions about all this. Starla.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:37 pm
It seems the decorator was a bit of a prima donna and a little thin skinned. Didn't like being questioned. I don't think Joan knew she angered him causing him to quit. For those of you who keep saying Annie didn't call names, how about "that b---- ", "crush her" (through gritted teeth), and "she must die", and many other digs. I don't see how Annie can claim the high ground. I'm so glad Joan won. By the way, when Annie said " she must die", I sure hope the call wasn't to Las Vegas!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 8:49 pm
I was all for an Annie win, and still think that she deserved it. But as I said all along, no way was Trump not giving this to Joan, he favored her the whole show. I didn't go into tonight thinking Annie had a shot. Reading thru the thread, I don't think we can be certain that Joan didn't know why the party planner quit. The first phone call when the guy just said bye, you are right he didn't tell her. But then Joan took that second phone call from them and came back and told everyone they quit or something of that nature. They didn't let us hear that phone call so it is possible that she was told then. I will have to go back and check my tape, but I think I am remembering it right. In the end charities got money ( I certainly think Joan knows how to turn on the tears at the correct charitable moment) but of the two charities I liked Joan's better so that would be the only reason I am not writing anyone a letter or ending my viewing of the show. Plus, I seriously think that he has been telling/showing us all show how there was no way he was going to take Joan out. Anyone else not at the finale besides Khloe?
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Tweety
Member
04-14-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:09 pm
Coming out of lurking to say I agree with those who think the show was too fixed. There was clearly a pre-show agreement with the Rivers - that is why Melissa had such a melt down a few weeks ago. Remember she said she would not do the post show interview because . . .? I feel sorry for Annie.
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Skydiver6
Member
07-21-2006
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:11 pm
BLECH! I loved this season but thought tonight's show was pathetic. Trump so favored Joan. He had her chosen over Annie before the task which is why he suddenly changed the fact that is wasn't about money raised. I thought The Rivers came across as so spoiled by all their actions, especially when Melissa was fired. I wanted Annie to win so badly. I would be upset but ask me a couple months from now who won this season and I probably won't even be able to tell you! lol
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:49 pm
I agree skydiver. Pathetic. The boardroom was exactly how it has been for the last 3-4 weeks, Joan calling Annie every name in the book. How disgusting, I was embarrassed for her but damn, she does have her fans and obviously can do no wrong in their eyes. Annie was by far the better apprentice, Joan was just the favourite long time friend. Joan couldn't lose, you could tell that right from the beginning of the show. Melissas smugness at the beginning when they picked their teams irked me so bad I can even begin to tell you. Tom Greene is not funny to me. Was Tionne there?
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Yellek
Member
08-22-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:53 pm
I just wasted 3 hours for that? Disgusting.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:56 pm
You should have just read the board Yellek! Joan DOES have fans who can see her shortcomings, but many of us can also see Annie for who she is. Not everyone is completely blindly loyal. We all have our favorites or what would be the point of a show like this?
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Yellek
Member
08-22-2001
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 10:04 pm
I'm not complaining about people having their favorites, or even wanting her to win. I'm just disgusted with how Joan acted and was held completely unaccountable by anyone. Sickening. The personal attacks and childish behavior was over the top and I don't see how anyone couldn't see that. I would have no problem with her still winning for the job she did, but at no time did she have to face reality and admit that she *might* have possibly been guilty of the same attitudes and tactics she accused Annie. Time for Apprentice to officially be pulled from my DVR list.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 10:12 pm
It's no different than Big Brother in a way. Big Brother is on for 3 hours a week, yet the houseguests are filmed 24/7. We will only see what the producers want us to see. People get SO angry at these shows, but we reasonably should remember that we do not see everything. Trump probably thought that showing what he did would get him the ratings he wanted. And I'm sure it did. People weren't going to watch BB EVER anymore after Janelle didn't win, but it's still around. There has been talk here for the last week that Trump was setting it up for a Joan win. She did, so therefore it angers people. Honestly, if Annie had won, I would have only have felt badly for Joan's charity, not her, nor would I have been angry. It's just a TV show.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:10 pm
Best line of the show: Tom Greene moving stools around, said, "Are these all the stools or are these stool samples?" I laughed so hard I couldn't even speak.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:29 pm
Well I enjoyed the whole thing knowing how it was going to end. They made it clear it would not be just based on how much money was brought in. I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE Joans Charity and how she brought them into the final task. I was crying when they did the video of her involvement with that Charity. BTW Joan was held accountable for her actions because she did them right out in the open and owned them. When Annie was finally called on the table about her name calling with such things as Cancer and then saying she wished Joan were dead ( YIKES ) instead of saying yes that was stupid I should have never let her get to me like that instead she said.. Well, I only said those things after Joan said all those other things. Hold yourself accountable dear don't make it sound like there is a justification for it it makes you look like a fake claiming you were calm and cool and a class act when in fact you got down and dirty as well. It was also interesting that even the majority of celebs they asked who should win they all picked Joan minus Jesse. I think she focused in on the areas that Annie missed which proved how shrewd Joan was in selling herself as the winner. Annie was so sure getting the most money and dominating every task and praising herself would be the hook. This is where Joan topped her. She found a different hook. She focused on approach also brought in money and made it more vocal about her charity. She seemed to garner a bit more respect based on her age and energy. She praised Annie for her ability to use those who were making a bet on her to win instead of giving with the intention that it was about Charity. Annie really felt those who helped her in the final task were doing it for her. She really missed that whole angle and Joan walked all over her in that area. I think Joan presented her case to win better when she kept focusing on Charity. Donald Trump could have cared less that joan had called Annie names and sadly Annie believe because her feelings had been hurt this is how she would win. In short it never was about Annie but I don't think you could tell annie that. One thing missed by Annie was although she felt Joans behavior in a boardroom setting was awful for the name calling Annie doesn't realize early on her group could not stand her. If Annie was going to challenge the idea that professionalism would play into this she failed in that area as well. From a business point of view even down to the last task Tom Green pointed out the losing factor for Annie. He said in the real world he couldn't work with someone like Annie and I have to agree. She was so into game mode to win for herself many times she was a complete turn off when dominating a conversation or even speaking to an individual not playing the game. Even her manner in which she asked for money in a real business setting would have been met with a bit of negativity. I couldn't last more then two days working with her. The first day I'd think wow is she really like this? The second day I'd have my answer and I'd have to quite. I might higher her initially but I know I'd be getting complaints about her and I'm afraid if I confronted her she wouldn't understand the complaints. I'd have to let her go after a while as I think she would spend too much time pointing the finger at every one else creating more of a problem. Joan obviously has the better people skills as she stands before thousands all alone on a stage taking them on a journey of laughter and creates the idea that for that time frame she is your best friend. I'd definitely take someone who complains to my face instead of slathering on sugar but behind the scenes whines. Loved the ending. So happy for Joans Charity. Realized I was team Joan but thought Annie would probably win if it was just based on monies. Said it shouldn't have been that and in the end it wasn't. Wish they would have let us see more of the reactions after Joan was announced the winner. Annie obviously was upset she lost. I dont think she ever considered she could lose because she had written her own set of rules and in it she felt she had met the criteria. Perhaps another fault of hers. YEAH JOAN!!
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:58 pm
I thought that it was probably planned for the event coordinator to quit. I didn't see Joan doing anything there that would cause his knickers to get in a bunch. She just wanted something from him that demonstrated what he was thinking about the room. He could not provide it. So, I thought it was all planned. Trump always throws in a wrinkle on these things.
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