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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Lardbrick, as I posted above, it may have kept her there one week longer, but since she made so many enemies by her move, that may be all she gets.

It's not wise to alienate so many people that have the power to vote you off given the chance. That's better gamesmanship, IMO.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Konamouse stated:
Not to be off topic, but I also just watched "You Are What You Eat" on BBC. Interesting parallels and differences in approaches.

Really, Konamouse? I taped "You Are What You Eat" but haven't watched it yet. I'll be curious to see the different approaches.

While I do agree with some that Jillian went overboard in making Tracy the villain, since Antoine participated in the cupcake eating and he wasn't even brought up, I also agree with Karuuna that Tracy has cooked her own goose. One more week may be all she has left. I wouldn't have wanted the decision she had and I didn't understand why everyone was talking to her and she told them one thing and did the complete opposite. She came off looking very, very bad in that situation. Better that she had not committed to anything and just said she'd have to think things over and do what was best for her team.

Heh..speaking of team, she didn't give her wonderful partner one little inkling as to what she was doing to him and his weightloss when she made her foolish decisions. Too bad he didn't let her make his weight count. She would have gone home last night and he'd be better on his own.

He save her the first week. She owed him bigtime! How could she be so very selfish and thoughtless? There is something off with her. She needs counseling very badly. They need to add that into the show.

What selfless guys the red team were and what a huge difference between them and Tracy, but she'll never see it. She's extremely immature. Rather than stab the pink team in the back when they wouldn't promise her their vote, she got snippy to the camera. Since she did have the power, had she worded things differently and said she would do their bidding if it guaranteed her safety, the owness would have been on them to choose, but she messed it up badly.

She was the one I wanted to stick around to see how great she would look with the weightloss, but no more. For her partner's sake, she needs to go soon.

Oh..how adorable is it that Antoine and Alexandra are in love! I'm so happy for them.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Cricket, the problem was that both members of the team were going home, so Mo couldn't do that.

Skydiver6
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07-21-2006

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Skydiver6 a private message Print Post    
I just realized that if Tracey goes home next week, then Coach Mo goes with her. I don't think that is fair to him.


Are they going to keep doing both? I thought they just did it this week to make up for no one going home last week. I thought that next week they would go back to just one going home. Anyone know for sure?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
My understanding was that the reason both went home this week was because they won the challenge last week and no one went home. So, hopefully, it will be one at a time after this.

And hopefuly there will come a day when Tracey goes home and Mo can stay.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, I didn't think about the fact that Mo would go home with Tracy. Yikes! I guess he finally did stand up to her when she wanted his weight to count and told her 'no way.' I was shocked when he said that @ the end. I also loved when he leaned over her shoulder when she ate the cupcakes and said, "What were you thinking?"

I was confused when two people went home this week, so I do hope it's because of no one going home last week. When the black team was up, only one went home.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, October 01, 2009 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Right.. they were told that they could ALL stay another week if they met that goal but that the next week two would leave.

Now.. recalculating if all weights counted.. much closer race.

Pink 2.48%
Brown 2.45%
Blue 2.35%
Red 2.26%
Purple 2.16%
Black 1.87%
Green 1.74%
Orange 1.643

Green would have been bottom two with Orange. However Green was immune, so that would have bumped Black (Julio) under the line and heaven knows what they'd do.. I'm sure they would boot Julio since he was allowed to stay when Alexandra went home but then would they boot Daniel just to keep Shay? Hard to say. Don't really know what the producers had planned if Julio was to fall under the line.

But Orange was still last, no matter how you slice
it.

And Red would have been safe

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
And Red would have been safe

So right, Seamonkey...very safe. This year it seems the trainers aren't 'playing the game' like they have in past years, but the producers are by changing things up from week to week.

I didn't hear the part last week about if they were all safe, two would go home this week.

Very interesting calculations on the weights, Seamonkey. Hmm....I wouldn't have minded Julio going home, but who would have been the second person?

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Thank you Sea for the stats!!!

I am glad to know that Mo's fate is not tied to Tracey.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Loved Jillian's rant to Coach about and in front of Tracey before the weigh in ... bravo!!

Sunshyne4u
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Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 11:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
does tracey not have a stress fracture?

Mo also made a great decision to lose only a lb. Next week his large weightloss should keep them safe.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Abbey has the stress fracture.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
Mo did make a good decision on the weigh-in, but he's also playing the game. No one called him on his probable water loading. I understand why he did it, but I just don't get why the trainers get so angry at certain people for playing and not at others.

Like Jimmer, the game play is my least favorite aspect of the show. I really think it's unnecessary. Each week, have a competition for immunity, then just let the lowest percentage person go home. I think there would still be enough drama. I don't think it's necessary for every season to have to have a villain.

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
I agree....I hate when it is primarily a competition between the contestants. I think the battle they have with themselves provides the more compelling storylines. Probably the producers would have to dig a bit harder for these stories, but they are so inspirational. Like Daniel's story...he made me so mad when he was on before because I felt like he wasn't trying hard enough. But that is the real life drama about weight loss that is so interesting. He was probably mad at himself, too. I have loved seeing him be successful.

Another example...the sisters that were on a couple of seasons ago with the dad that was so grossly obese or this season the woman who is the child of a drug addict. People can learn a lot watching these sort of stories. A lot of learning about permanent weight loss is understanding where you are coming from and what negative patterns are at play. I'd way rather watch people deal with that stuff than lose a ton of weight for the finale so they win, but then gain all the weight back when the competition is over.

I like the challenges when they all have to reach a goal together. I love seeing them champion each other. And I like Bob and Jillian a lot better when they are working together to help the contestants instead of competing with each other. I got so I almost hated Bob....still not completely over that, but liking him again is not out of the realm of possibility anymore!

But all that being said, as long as they keep the competition on, I don't mind people like Mo playing the game. For the amount of money at stake, I would do it myself! He is still losing the weight and that is what is important.

Sammi
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I just hope that tonight only one person goes home and not a whole team like last week. Hopefully, two went home last week because the previous week nobody left. Maybe Tracey won't do well this week and they can boot her butt out after her actions last week. Just hoping!!!

Karuuna
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
If the show wanted to do away with some of the shenanigans, they could easily measure percent of fat and percent of water weekly. But they choose not to.

Catbowl
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catbowl a private message Print Post    
What is wrong with Tracy? Why can't she excersise at all?

Texasdeb
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I don't know what just happened to Mo in the last chance workout but it looks pretty bad.

Scout
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Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
I loved the music they played when Mo walked back into the gym. Whoever's in charge of musical choices deserves a raise.
Who did Mo say woke up the sleeping giant - I missed the first part of his statement?

Julio looks amazing. Every time I'd hear him speak, and watch his eyes squint up, he'd remind me of Robert DeNiro.
Sorry to see him go, but glad that Danny and Liz are both still there. Liked all three of them.

Looks like next week's putting them all back into two teams will probably end the lovefest. It will be kind of interesting to see how/if it changes their numbers.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Catbowl, it has something to do with her muscles and her enzyme levels. They keep going up. She could be losing muscle, since she can't exercise and that's what they don't want. She must have a problem with one of her muscles in one or both legs. When she fell on the firt challenge, she literally couldn't make her leg muscles work.

I'm so confused as to how they are booting people off this year. It was either Julio or the Brown Team...2 people. Are Danny and Liz related? Who were they saying would take care of Liz? If I was in that house and we could boot 1 or 2 people; I'd go for the 2...less competitors.

I don't understand why they all talk in a big group this year in front of everyone. That ruins the game and dealmaking, lol. I also don't understand their criteria of booting the person who has the most support @ home. They should be booting their competition.

Angelicfairies2
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Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Oh dear there is something about Shay that i'm just not liking!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 9:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
ColorNameAgeHeightStarting
Weight
Previous
Weight
Current
Weight
New LossWeek's %*Total*
Loss
This Wk
Finale
BLUERudy
engineer
316'4"442388377-11-2.57T65 
BLUEDina
custodian
285'5"253234229-5-2.57T24 
PURPLMo
coach
566'2"355326318-8-3.21T37 
PURPLTracey
homemaker
375'2"238217214-4-3.21T25injured list
GREENAllen
firefighter
445'11"325292285-7-1.97T40 
GREENAbby
teacher
355'4"247216213-3-1.96T34stress fracture limited to pool work
PINKAmanda
nursing student
America's Choice
205'6"250235230-5-1.86T20 
PINKRebecca
nanny
255'6"279248244-4-1.86T35 
BROWNLiz
grandmother
495'7"267243240-3-1.75T27 
BROWNDanny
musician
395'11"430390382-8-1.74T55 
BLACKJulio
mortgage loan officer
396'0"407368364-4-1.0943Out week 4
ORANGDaniel
student
205'8"454
312
287287-0-0.69T167
25
wins immunity
ORANGShay
social worker
305'8"476437432-5-0.6944immune
REDAntoine
health insurance agent
236'0"367341330-11-3.2337below line
out week 3
REDSean
youth pastor
296'2"444411405-6-1.4639wt counted
below line
out week 3
BLACKAlexandra
college student
205'8"309309296-13-3.63T13Out Week 1


Week 4:

We see, from last week, Tracey appearing to agree to choose Daniel's weight to count, saying Shay needs to be there. Then we see Tracey choose Shay, instead.

We see Shay confronting Tracey and Mo, telling them this is a betrayal. Mo tries to spin it that Daniel asked for a favor, but Shay says no, Tracey said she loved me and wanted me to stay, that was not a favor.

Shay tells us Tracey dug herself a hole.

Tracey tells Shay she is straight up. She really assumed that Shay would drop a big fat number. She tells us she did nothing..

Shay wants respect. Wants to love Tracey, but that has to be earned. She will be cordial, she tells us, but she will NEVER trust the purple team.

Morning at the gym. Bob and Jillian arrive. They are told Antoine and Sean fell on the sword for Shay. Jillian looks pained. Tracey looks nervous sort of. . Jillian says the reason you are here is for yourself, fight to STAY here.

Bob says Shay needs to be here, but EVERYBODY needs to be here..not for anyone to decide.

Bob asks Tracey if she is cleared for training. She says she may find out tomorrow.

Bob tells us Tracey hasn't even been allowed INTO the gym. and you have to be able to survive Jillian and I in that gym.

They start working out, except Tracey.

Shay wants to live up to the red team who took the fall for her. Amanda wants to prove that America was right voting her onto the show.

Workouts, pep talk for Julio from Jillian.

Coming up: Tracey is dealt another blow. Dr H says we have to shut you down. She can't walk at all.

And contestants give up all control to face their greatest challenge yet.

We see Tracey with Dr H. Tracey tells us she hopes she can work out. We see her collapse on day one. Dr H says her enzyme levels went up very high CPK, can damage muscles, and even organs. Seems to be up again, not life threatening and he trusts her but when money and prizes are at stake, he has to shut her down. She says you mean I can't walk? Can't get in the pool. Tracey cries that she is so frustrated, she doesn't understand. How am I going to stay here. I'm not finished, don't want to go home looking like this. It has to get better.

Tracey tells Mo what she was told. No working out, only can take the stairs to go eat with people. Mo says but that's what you are here for.

Tracey says if labs are better in a couple of days. Mo says do what you are told. He tells us he has to carry the weight for the team this week. Happy if it makes her better.

Challenge

All the cupboards are padlocked. Alli is there with covered dishes. They have to order out every meal for the next seven days. They have to learn, says Ali.

Tracey says paying attention to eating perfect calories is crucial for her.

Ali says you have to look at the menus and figure out what is best.

Kick off the week with a challenge: 3 choices and the team that makes the healthiest choice will win a kitchen stocked with healthy foods for a year. Shay says she works three jobs so this would be one less job for her.

Dinner A:

1/4 roasted chicken breast (without skin)

1/2 cup low fat creamed spinach

2.75 oz. sweet potatoes

1/2 cup nonfat peach frozen yogurt

2 cups unsweetened iced tea.

Dinner B:

1/2 rotisserie chicken (with skin)

1/2 cup creamed spinach

1/2 cup vanilla frozen yogurt

1/2 cup blueberries

2 cups green tea

Dinner C:

1/4 barbecue chicken breast (with skin)

1 cup peas and carrots

1 cup mango slices

1 cup skim milk

Green team first (they come in alone) Allen and Abby can ask questions of Alli about cooking methods, what is in sauces. We see other teams asking their questions. (they don't have the list we see, just the dishes).

Purple team : C

Black: C

Blue: C

Daniel says A

Pink team; A

Brown: A


Alli says Dinner B.. says they all knew it was the wrong choice.

Dinner A vs Dinner C Healthiest meal is Dinner A.

Pink, Orange and Brown celebrate! Three way tie.

Comes down to one question. How many calories were in Dinner A? Closest without going over, wins the year of healthy groceries. Daniel is cocky.
Brown says 547
Pink says 385
Orange 475

Correct answer is 445 calories and Pink Team Wins!

Shay says a bummer but no cigar.

Alli pimps Biggest Loser Simple Swaps book.

We see them going over menus, discussing what they should change, like no oil, no bananas, grapes.. They worry that they won't be able to go TO the restaurant to make sure they follow directions.

They get bagel chips (that they did not order), someone gets melon when he said no fruit (he's allergic), cheese when someone said no cheese.

Jillian pushes mashed cauliflower instead of potatoes.

Bob and Jill come to visit.. ask about the padlocked cabinets, hear about the ordering in. Plug making your own meals and we see sugarless gum being chewed. Jill says they will take them to dinner so they can see how to order. They go a Mexican place (Spanish kitchen).

Hardly anyone brought their calorie books. They all reject the chips. Jillian tells them they need to know why they want this. They need concrete, achievable goals. Jill is mostly talking at Rebecca, who whines to us.

Papaya Avocado Chicken dish is Jill's favorite.

Night time water immunity challenge Platform.. trepidation.

Tracey wants it to piss people off.

Daniel wants it.

They grab a handlebar and hang on as long as they can. The platform starts out horizontal and tilts gradually until vertical.

Shay says could there be a worse challenge for me?

Abby and Tracey cannot compete, again.

Liz fears heights. .. they start out lying on their backs. holding the "handlebars over their heads.. They tilt comes fast.. Looks really stressful.

Liz loses one handle, and is out. (in the water)

Danny follows suit. Brown team eliminated.

Amanda out for Pink.

Rudy out for Blue.

Rebecca out. Pink done.

Dina out for Blue. Blue done.

Shay is last girl up, heaviest too. Proud.

Coach Mo out. Purple done.

Shay, goes after 10 minutes.

Daniel, Julio and Allen.

Julio out for black.

Allen asking how Daniel is doing. Daniel wants that immunity. So does Allen.

Allen is out.. Daniel WINS!! Orange is immune.. Shay and Daniel live another week! Daniel is relieved that he won't go home week 4 again.

Last Chance workout Yelling from Bob, telling them they have been ordering in so he and Jill HAVE to work them hard.

Jillian working Rudy hard with the kettle bells. Drop dead or make it happen. Toughen up! Rudy is whining, doesn't have it in him, he says. He finally starts giving it his all.

Bob works Pink team.

Liz worries that she gained weight.

Julio says it is tough.

All working.

Except Tracey. She says it is sad. Coach Mo is concerned.

Mo working hard but he hurts himself. We see another trainer helping him with his back. I'm done, he says.

(I have to admit that I worry about knees.. seeing people straighten out legs and lock knees.. ACK.. sorry I've had the pain of blowing an ACL and later surgery and rehab and I can subluxate too easily.)

Bob says he saw the pain Mo was in, he was panicking, if you panic, the injury feels worse. Mo says his back is hurting. Bob says hard to keep Mo positive. Mo's being negative. He wanted to be here with Bob. Bob says what is your option? They pain will still be there. Give it an hour of rest and get back on the bike. Bob doesn't want Mo to go. Says he has to get his head on straight and he'll want to be here. Mo says he has to change his life, that is why he came here. He walks back into the gym and gets on a bike. (lol at the music)

Weigh in

Weigh in as a team and two below line and a TEAM will be sent home (ed. so, some of us were incorrect, including me)

Orange Team has immunity. Shay wants to get out of the 400s. Shay drops 5 pounds from 437 to 432. Daniel loses 0 pounds, remaining at 287. (1.35%) and Daniel is 287 (0.69%). Daniel says zero! Alli says not a bad strategy. Daniel says not a strategy. Alli says Daniel you are smarter than that. Jillian says it had better be a strategy because you would be stupid if it wasn't otherwise you are really going to get the crap beat out of you on top of it. Bob tells us we are in season 8, when someone loses zero with immunity they are playing the game as much as Tracey is.

Green Team is next up. Abby has been restricted to the pool all week. Bob is worried. They lose 10 pounds, Allen down 7 to 285 and Abby down 3 to 213. Their team % is 1.97.

Blue team.. They lose 16 pounds Rudy loses 11, down to 377. Dina loses 5, down to 229. 2.57%. They move into first place.

Brown team next. Liz feels in her soul she will not pull a good number this week. They need to have lost more than 16 pounds to be safe. They lose 11 so not safe yet. Liz down 3 to 240 and Danny down 8 to 382. 1.75%.

Blue team is safe now.

Purple team up now.. Tracey says she expects to gain weight then cries about her children, etc. Has to find a balance. This week was rest and for her. Have to lose more than 10 pounds. Mo says we are in trouble. Just when I decided I wanted to be here, I'm going home. They lose 12 pounds. Mo 8 pounds and. Tracey loses 4. She is now 213 and Mo is 318 3.21% Into first place and safe.

Shay says it kills her that another healthy team is going home while they sit there. Not FAIR.

Black team next. Julio has to lose more than 7 pounds to stay safe tonight. He loses 4 pounds and is frustrated. He is now 364 pounds down from 368. 1.09%. He knows he will go home. 1.09%, last place.. So he is definitely below the yellow line. Jillian says that isn't right, should have been higher.

Green team is safe.

Pink Team .. either you or Brown team up with Julio. They need to have lost more than 8 pounds. Rebecca is confident, and she is correct, they do lose 9 pounds: Amanda 5, down to 230, and Rebecca 4, down to 244. 1.86%. They are safe. Pink is safe.

Black and Brown are up, only three people..

Bob and Jill say goodnight.

Julio tells us that two gone vs one is better for the house, but will they figure that out?

Deliberation

Liz says her emotions are so torn.. two teams so close. Not going to fight against Julio to stay. Julio says nightmare situation. Don't need to tell anyone here how much he loves Liz and Danny. Liz is like my big sister here. We take care of each other, we take care of Danny. I want to stay, won't step in front of these two.

Liz agrees. She'll be heartbroken either way. Y'all have to decide. Lots of tears.

Would she struggle at home. Liz says didn't do it before. Danny says he'll fight, scared to go home. Mo says eventually you have to be ready. Danny is crying about the mountain. Those kids are there, his wife, his job, his business, harder.

Julio not ready to go.

They leave the others to talk.

They go off.

Mo says Julio is his friend. Tracey talks about writing down Liz.. They are split on decision.

Orange and Pink teams seem to want to send two home, two closer to finals, but..

Voting

Tracey says scared for both teams.

Liz prays they keep us. Danny really needs to be here.

Julio hopes his friends will keep him.

Orange Team wanted to make sure that they picked team that would do the best at home. Julio.

Blue team.. this is my nightmare.. had to pick for one team.. Liz and Danny

Green team.. close to these three people. Had to make choice with logic. Help two people. Flaw is turned back on friend. Crying. Julio.

Purple team. Mo and Julio best friends, Stacey and Liz best friends. Hard, not what you want. Julio (ed. Stacey wins again, hmm)

Julio goes home.

Sad music.

We see him at home, etc. he is down to 299.

(Lost a hunk of text, but he's cooking healthy, enjoying his family, etc. We see him in his "home away from home": the gym.

His goal is to be down 200 pounds by the finale.


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My guess is that the young ones don't consider Liz and Danny to be big threats, age wise, compared to Julio, and I'm sure someone still resents Julio because he stayed and Alexandra went home.

No time to read til later, but wanted to post the stuff.. last night I was almost done but went into brain fog..

Bblovergirl
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07-07-2005

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Hi all. Hope you don't mind me popping in but I have a question. I am a BB fanatic but I am now into the Biggest Loser and do not miss an episode. So, can someone please tell me why Tracy is there? Does anyone else want to reach into the TV and slap her and say, "Hey, be grateful you are there and stop whinning"? She just grates on my nerves and I don't understand why Coach Mo (who I love) has to carry the burden for both of them. I just think there are thousands of people around the country who could be in Tracey's spot and be making the best of it. I know she has something wrong physically and I feel bad for her for that, but geez, step aside, do what the doctor says and let someone else who could take better advantage of being there take your place.

Sammi
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Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammi a private message Print Post    
My sentiments exactly. I think she should withdraw, it isn't fair to poor Mo who is literally killing himself carrying both of them. Still don't understand how come last night she lost five pounds. How the H LL did she do that without moving?????

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I *THINK* she ripped a muscle and they can monitor the extend of the damage by the levels of a type of enzyme in her blood and the levels keep rising not going down which they should be doing if she was healing. I *think* but wouldn't bet money on it, not my own anyway. LOL Don't understand why she can't do anything physical at all though, anyone know WHICH muscle it was? Perhaps in her back?