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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:34 pm
Hi Lilfair, good question, I haven't even thought about that. Wow, this is going to be one heck of a finale. I hope it doesn't degenerate into name calling, and everyone holds their tongues. You're right about Jesse, maybe they will think he'll now pull out his connections. But you know what, he may not and surpise them all.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:40 pm
If she was a role model for female comics and I am not saying she was, that does not make her anything special that I want to view on my TV today. What I saw was pathetic and somewhat contemptible. On a positive note, I thought Brande's radio voice was as remarkable as her physical appearance. Maybe she can't sing a note but she sounded really great in the ad. I would not be surprised if she gets offers for that kind of work.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:44 pm
I guess it's all subjective as I give her the benefit that she opened doors for many others in a business that at that time wasn't so welcoming. If that is true I could never deny her any respect. Compared to a professional con artist who sits at a table playing cards for a living I just don't find that at all respectful and I'd use that as a way to beat her in this game asking trump is he's ready to crown a con artist as his winner. maybe we aren't suppose to respect them for ratings purpose. I think Brande is beautiful.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:46 pm
Hmmm how tough is it to marry a producer? Joan was a superstar when she married an unknown Edgar. Joan was easily the most well known person on this show.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:47 pm
Joan is a role model for female comics along with others in the field and maybe as a self promotor and business woman but not so much a role model as a MENCH. It'll be fun and funny watching Melissa come back to help mommy in the finale. For Joan's charity's sake I hope Melissa has taken the opportunity while she's been gone to speak to a professional about her anger issues and her god complex.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:48 pm
Hi C1mag, Looks like the monitor didn't ban you and yes, it's all about Annie, Annie, Annie, and welcome to Annie's world. That girl really loves to blow her own horn doesn't she? And Yes, I don't think younger people know what it was like 40 and 50 years ago. Women just didn't do a lot of stand up comedy, and they were no female night time TV hosts. (Boy's club area) If women did comedy, it had to be humor around motherhood etc.. As much as I hate to admit it, Annie is a bit of a ceiling breaker herself, there weren't too many successful women poker players until recently. I think largely, this was due to the unsavory reputation of gamblers until the last 15 or 20 years and it was a man's domain. Whoops! Did I say gamblers used to be unsavory?? I guess I'm in real trouble now.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:53 pm
Hope I won't get banned for that. I can edit that just in case. I'm simply not impressed with female con artists. Gambling isn't up there on my list of respectful vocations. I question where some of those large donations are coming from. I wouldn't want some of that money.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:54 pm
Thank you mamabatsy. Edgar was an unknown and it was more like Joan gave him a job.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:55 pm
Well it says it's too late to edit so I sincerely apologize if that was not suppose to be allowed. I would have changed that to poop so maybe a mod can do that for me Mark will kill me if he got banned. I'll blame it on Annie
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:01 pm
Joan was never a superstar. She did have a bit of glory here and there. She was working her way up via endurance. She could have been a superstar had she not bit the hand that was feeding her the biggest break she ever got. That did mystify me but seeing her now on Apprentice, I am no longer surprised.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:02 pm
If I had to take one of them to lunch, I'd much rather listen to Joan making fun than Annie dropping names.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:04 pm
I always thought Joan hit Superstar status at some point. When I was a little girl she had her own show and a successful album. I think she is the only woman and at first Carsons personal pick to fill in for him regularly. Over time she has fallen down the ladder but am I wrong? Wasn't she HUGE at one point?
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:06 pm
C1mag, yes, our country sure has changed, hasn't it, it seems, at times, up is down and down is up, right is wrong and wrong is right. I guess I'm just hanging on to all the old morals I was taught growing up. The very things we frowned upon years ago, people seem to be venerated and cannonized for now, strange. ( and sad) If you stand up for old fashioned ethics or morals, you're called all kinds of names. I'm listening to the news, and it just mentioned the Mrs. California fiasco. All that poor girl did was state her honest opinion, and they are out to destroy her! I guess we're not allowed to have an opinion that diviates from the PC police anymore or they will come to your home and take you away! Isn't her opinion the same as Obama's and Bush? America was always a place where you had freedom of speech and could have your own belief system. Leave this girl alone for heaven's sake!! Off topic, sorry.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:07 pm
I'd rather take Jesse to lunch if Sandra will allow it for a day.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:07 pm
C1mag/Starla, I LOVE that expression!!! hahahahaa shits diamonds!!! hahahahh we can say 'shit' here 
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:10 pm
Thanks Pamy ... Phew. I was worried. I was thinking oh lord what have I done forgive me. Shit is acceptable LOL
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:12 pm
C1mag, Joan was on the way to the top with none other than Johnny Carson to push her there. You couldn't get a much better endorsement. I think Joan was on a short list to take over for Johnny when the day came. But Joan didn't see the big picture and jumped ship. Just like acts so superior now she likely thought she could show Johnny a thing or two. Like him or not, he was in one of the most powerful positions a comic could be in. Not so smart. And she never regained that glory.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:14 pm
C1, yes she was a superstar. I mean, she had Liz Taylor mad at her ("Can we talk? I saw Liz Taylor the other day in a yellow dress and a bunch of school kids tried to board her! Oh please. Liz Taylor's the only person who can stand in front of a microwave and yell 'HURRY!' She's so fat. Her favorite food is seconds"), and if you're big enough to piss off Liz, you're plenty big. It's a shame Carson was vindictive and tried to ruin her. But he had a reputation for having a vindictive streak in him, so I guess she should have known. It's like being married to him and expecting him not to cheat.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:14 pm
I think this would make a fun topic somewhere, has beens and who we can stand to watch hawk diet pills and cheap/expensive jewelry.
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:15 pm
Gidget I remember seeing her host on the Carson show before she did her own thing. Im sure she thought she could do her own thing with her own show. it was a huge gamble for her. It was on Fox wasn't it and at that time Fox was not such a popular station. She took a big risk. I know in the end he never talked to her again.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:15 pm
And if you're small enough to attack a woman's weight problem....
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C1mag
Member
07-12-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:17 pm
I call the fall the Cher Syndrome. From Oscar night to Informercial queen. it happens to many of them.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:17 pm
Joan was never a superstar. She did have a bit of glory here and there. She was working her way up via endurance. She could have been a superstar had she not bit the hand that was feeding her the biggest break she ever got. The whole thing with Carson happened after her time in the spotlight. She was on EVERY variety show in the 60s. She was headliner in Vegas when Jack Paar did the Tonight Show. She was very well known before Carson had a show.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:18 pm
C1mag, I am looking at the attitude and demeanor of Joan now and I think there was more to the Carson thing than the gamble she took and lost. Carson was just too big not to wish her well if he couldn't offer her better at the time. His popularity did not depend on her. But hers could have skyrocketed with his.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:19 pm
Thank you for making my point about marrying the producer and suddenly being on every show in the 60's.
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