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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Twinkie, how do you know what she didn't say?

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Master P isn't on this show. I'm discussing this show.

Sorry. Your question didn't specify seasons and I was discussing this show, which is Dancing With the Stars. The only one I can remember who performed as poorly as Tony's partner on this show was Master P, but I think Master P had more elegance.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
BTW, forgetting scores etc, to me BY FAR the 2 worst dancing pairs were Buzz and Kate. They were about equal in being horrid. The fact that they were not the bottom 2 is just wrong. And that is with me removing all personal feelings of who I like, prefer, etc.

Plain and simply, they should have been bottom 2, and one of them should have left, based on ONLY dancing performances.

Do we know how involved Vote for the Worst is w/DWTS? I'm seriously still trying to make some sense of this very wrong elimination!

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Of course they BOTH should have been in the bottom 2...

Have there been "wrong" eliminations in the past?? I don't watch every season but I'm sure there have been upsets before...especially with people you think are safe and BAM, they're gone.

I honestly can't believe all the hoopla after just one week. Guess The Powers That Be are delighted.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
This show isn't about worst dancer/best dancer.. at best it is about people stepping outside of their comfort zone and working hard and hopefully improving and really hopefully enjoying the process and loving the results.

Often it is about popularity.. of the "star" and of the professional dancer.. it is about the whims of the judges.. Carrie Ann and judging of lifts by people who have little control over what is or isn't a lift and certainly most have little control over the choreography.

Then it seems that even for the pros they don't always get to choose their music, thus forcing them to choreograph differently. Derek had to change plans to go with the music which seems to have led to a less sympathetic presentation of Nicole.. instead of a campy fun retro jive they felt they had to go with edgier dance and certainly her costuming wasn't the fun/cute appealing outfit that we often see when they dance a jive.

The scores are somewhat subjective and often inexplicably high or punitively low and then the voting is at the whim of the voters and I daresay not all that often based on merit of any type.

Quite a few horrible dancers have been kept way too long and that's just the way this show goes.

Personally I think it is best to never put words into anyone's mouth or imagine their thoughts, especially when those words and thoughts grow legs, are repeated as truth.. but that happens ever day and has happened to many of us and we have to learn to live with that, I guess.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Oh and I was caught by my own assumptions, so while I assumed that the show was recording upstairs, it sure wasn't, so I missed seeing last night's show entirely.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
As for what "is or was reported".. that means Dr Phil and Robin have been continuously divorcing for 20 years, Angelina and Brad splitting up for all the years they have been together, quite a few people who are still alive must actually be dead, people who have never even met have had huge fights and so on.

and as I mentioned last night I think Shannen got a triple whammy, or maybe quadruple. She wasn't the best dancer, her partner is new without much of a fanbase yet, she hasn't often been a sympathetic character in her career, didn't get high marks and sort of fell in the middle where people weren't ecstatic over her performance but also weren't trying to keep her around, maybe thinking she was safe but not caring all that much if she wasn't.

ETA: Thanks Ladytex.. it wasn't Shannen with the lesser known partner.. absolutely I was thinking of Pamela for that factor.. not having a vote puller for a partner.. had the wrong bottom two lady for that comment. Yes of course I know Mark! And Corky for that matter. And I hope Mark's injury isn't too bad so he canbe ready for next season.

With only 11 votes per phone line I think most voters concentrate on one or two people.

ETA.. yes I didn't mention the online votes but my main point was that it seems like they do limit votes per device or whatever, it isn't like American Idol where fast fingers, bots, whatever can pump in a gazillion votes and where the teens or preteens probably are much more persistent than most of us here would be. Even I have the energy and stamina to put in my 11 or whatever votes on my cell and my landline and heck, if I can get it going, my magicjack line too. But I'm still not overwhelming them with votes and wouldn't even if I bothered to go online.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
I also hope Nicole and Derek go soon,she has way to much experience to be on this show.Maybe thats why I am rooting for Kate because shes not a dancer or has no prior dancing history.I would like to see if and how much she improves.I was sad to see Shannon go,but thats the way these shows are,you either take them as they are or don't watch them.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Sea, Shannen's partner is not new, and he's very popular. In fact he has a couple of trophies ...

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
link

US mag has quotes from some of the other dancers about Kate.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Kate reminds me of Kathy Lee Gifford ... without the modicum of talent. She's got the same forced, over the top chirpiness, the same penchant for referencing herself and the same tendency to shamelessly promote herself as just a good old white picket fence mom while she pursues her life as a celebrity with a whiff of grim desperation. I may start watching this show.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I thought Brooke's copper-coloured gown was classy and gorgeous.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Sea, don't forget the online votes. We still have no clue how big a factor they are in this show.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wilsonatmd a private message Print Post    
Kate's dance next week will be...interesting...

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Aziel stated:
As long as I see her working so hard to improve, I will keep voting for her.

This is the problem for me with Kate. She's not trying hard. She has already excused her horrible dancing (on Access Hollywood) by saying that she was told to look happy and therefore she missed some steps.."So what" she says. "I'm not upset with myself for that." I guess it's very, very, hard for her to 'act' happy.

She SHOULD be upset with herself...very upset. If she had argued less and practiced more; she may have been better, but this woman blames everyone else for her behavior. <57>

I just about choked when Kate made a statement to the effect of 'she's over it..has forgiven Tony.' What?? He did nothing, Kate..it was you, the student, who caused the problem. Start taking responsibility for you own actions and words.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
As for what "is or was reported".. that means Dr Phil and Robin have been continuously divorcing for 20 years, Angelina and Brad splitting up for all the years they have been together, quite a few people who are still alive must actually be dead, people who have never even met have had huge fights and so on.

I, for one, believe that Kate tried to get Tony fired. It's how she operates. She's never wrong and if you have the nerve to cross her, you must go. She's fired many, many nannies and booted her brother and wife from the show; then booted Jon. No one disagrees with Kate. Her instinct is to ban them. I'm waiting for the day in about 5 or 10 years when this woman has absolutely no power, because it's gone to her head.

ETA: Just read the article Wilson posted. ROFLMAO...Kate will be telling a story about KATE next week. I can't stop laughing.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Lurknomore, I've only seen bits and pieces of the show. I tape and fast forward through what I'm not interested in. They have professional performers pitted against people who've never danced even at weddings. I have no interest in those like Evan who has had extensive dance training as a figure skater. Watch the warmups before they put their skates on and you see them dancing. He is a professional going against Kate and Buzz. This would be a much better show if none of them had any past experience dancing. Of course most performers have to take dance classes as part of their training so that's not going to happen.

I'm just going on what I saw of Tony's behavior as shown this week. He did not come across as a good guy at all. Perhaps he is getting older and beginning to question his own ability to continue. For whatever reason, he came across to ME as a defensive diva.

Imbewitched
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03-08-2002

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Imbewitched a private message Print Post    
Isn't it funny how we can all watch the same thing but "see" the complete opposite?

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<Just read the article Wilson posted. ROFLMAO...Kate will be telling a story about KATE next week. I can't stop laughing.>

I know! I'm loving it too. I hope she stays on for weeks now as she sure is providing many laughs, albeit unintentionally.

Like Jimmer said, it's turning into a train wreck but it's certainly not boring, lol.

Rvon
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12-11-2003

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rvon a private message Print Post    
The problem with Kate is she didn't get any better after the second week. It was as painful and embarrassing to watch her as it was the first week.

Mamabatsy, it's amazing people can watch the same show and come up with two completely different conclusions. I saw Kate acting like an arrogant, spoiled brat. And Tony questioning his ability to continue? Are you kidding me?? I'll bet the only thing he was questioning is why on earth he agreed to take on Kate Gosselin as his partner.

Good thing we all have our own opinion, huh?

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Good thing we all have our own opinion, huh?

<self-modded>

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Yeah but Mama...you saw how Tony came across in ONE interaction with ONE specific person. I'm telling you that I have watched him for almost a decade and not ONCE has he ever lost his cool, or been anything but sweet and patient. Also, I've read & watched many interviews about him (and the other pros) over those many years and again not ONCE has there been one even slightly negative thing ever said againt him. And believe me, over the years there have been tons of compaints and whining about MANY of the pro's.

So I hope you would take some of this into consideration before condemning him based on one short snippet with one person who is has a longstanding reputation of being hard to get along with.

As for my feeling on the subject...they haven't changed since I heard the pair announced and are even moreso now;

POOR TONY!!!!!

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Well said, Lurk, well said.

Hermione69
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07-23-2002

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Go Kate!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
ITA cricket and lurk! BTW Cricket you read my mind about Buzz! Because the judges gave him lower scores than Kate, I called in for Buzz. I do think Cloris had more fun about her, Buzz just seems old.