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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 4:45 pm
OK, thanks Tish. I was thinking Jon Stewart but wasn't sure.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 5:54 pm
When I mentioned Joan's joke earlier, I remembered incorrectly. I rewatched the show and she said " If Annie needs a face lift, she'll need two doctors", still a great line.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 5:58 pm
From the 4 minutes I saw of the show (the last 4), I don't think she was acting either. She WAS acting like a spoiled brat, however. 
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Cindylouwho
Member
01-27-2009
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 6:18 pm
Melissa Rivers is a three year old. And Brande's "Fore-goo" - my bed was shaking I was laughing so hard. I was a little worried for Jesse tonight with the editing and all. Am really liking Ivanka this season - probably the most "normal" of all of them.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 6:38 pm
Holly, I agree that it was hysterical watching Melissa storm off by limping in the ortho boot and heal!! LOL I mean, who wears heals when one of your feet is in an ortho boot? I still think this whole season was semi scripted
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 7:36 pm
I guess apparently Trump said on an interview this morning: Joan hasn't done her daughter one bit of good for not letting her go out on her own in this world. I understand why he's saying that, but it also made me laugh. Why are DT's children on his show? I realize that they do other things too, but I'm sure that they'll always be very much in and supported by DT's "world" too. However, they do appear to carry themselves much differently than Melissa. (Thank goodness!) Last night's show certainly was a spectacle. It's hard to say where the scripting begins and ends. I can't imagine people wanting to portray themselves in such a poor light. (But then again many celebrities probably never think that they are doing anything wrong or distasteful.) I can't see Melissa being exactly in demand for jobs after her display last night. I was so hoping that she would leave quietly and not in the manner that people would expect her to. I still think that Joan will come back to the show and try to seek revenge on the other women. I don't know if she's completely "done" yet.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 8:39 pm
Melissa "Rivers" has only one call to fame & it's because her mother is famous. Joan Rivers should have let her child grow up & be an individual. I'm serious, "I need my Mommy" is cute when you're --- like 3-8. Melissa is 41 & still sucking teet as far as I can see.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 9:44 pm
I don't like Annie as a person, but I think she's a great poker player. I just went to a blog on QVC and Joan says she wants to come back to win, so from what I read on her blog, it looks like she does come back. I really like Joan, she was protecting her "child", and yes, when you have kids, they are your kids until you die, the protective mother bear doesn't leave in the human species after nursing, or 18 or 40 or 60 for that matter, you always feel protective. I've already written what I feel about the Melissa, Joan situation, so I'll just say, I'm really glad Joan's returning, "Let the games begin", ( as long as Annie doesn't win)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 10:33 pm
All I can say is that NO ONE is coming across as likeable at this point except maybe Ivanka. Melissa was her usual paranoid self, but Annie and Brande WERE indeed acting like the "mean girls" and Brande had better watch out and toughen up as she did for that brief flash in the board room.. or Annie will benefit from Brande's ability to bring in lots of money, as she pulls out all the stops and bulldozes her way to the end. Annie is in a good profession, where she really doesn't have to listen to anyone's opinion, or ideas, doesn't have to lead groups, just act for herself and cut throat is good. Not good apprentice material but of course this show had nothing to do with apprenticing. Joan and especially Melissa were embarrassing. Jesse, who I have liked, just pouted, and while I suspect his ideas WERE better than Clint's and Clint was being his usual arrogant self, Jesse didn't make points with anyone last night. Joan, at her age, showed the ability to shift and work with. (LOL, until she stomped out, but that was about Annie). I really, really, really don't like: Annie and Trump.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 11:33 pm
Annie, I think that reality blurred bit you quoted is THEIR artcle making fun of Melissa and using quotes of hers but her interview clip was "not available" at the site earlier today (they said it would be up somewhere, but I wasn't really that interested. So I'm sure Melissa DID shoot herself in the foot in her interview/statements, but that wasn't the actual interview.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 12:40 am
I put all the blame on Trump. Everyone on this show has behaved horribly at one point or another, but the final decisions are Trump's and they're usually wrong. He tries too hard to make things happen. He successfully eliminated every laid back personality, and probably would've liked to get rid of Jesse as well but his team didn't lose. That's likely why he put Jesse back on KOTU to begin with. Why put both men on the same team? Why keep your two top fundraisers on the same team? He wanted Jesse on the losing team so he could fire him when they lost. He wants big, explosive personalities and that's what he got. I don't buy the argument that Brande got spared because she argued so passionately for herself. Melissa argued passionately, to the point where even Trump couldn't interrupt her. Brande was spared because she raised more money, because Trump likes her more, and because Melissa asked Trump if she could finish making her point. Trump told Regis & Kelly that Melissa was only focused on being disliked and didn't think about the task or the team, which suggests that Trump doesn't watch his own show. As much as I disapprove of her post-firing behavior, it's unfair to ignore her work or how much she tried to participate in this task but got blocked. While Annie called all the shots about the concept, she was correct about Brande assigning most of the jobs to her. It was a win-win for Annie. If they won she would get all the credit, but if they lost she could complain that she was overworked. I just get annoyed with Annie because she's like a little kid looking for that elusive pat on the head. "I did everything and it was all my idea. You like him? He's a personal friend of mine. I've got all the best contacts and coolest friends and each one would take a bullet for me. It may look like I'm doing a bad job but that's just my strategy. I'm the ultimate woman." Ugh. What gets me is that Trump was writing his little note even as his daughter was putting the spotlight on Annie and how she was behind their loss. Ivanka was after Annie, Cramer was after Brande, so obviously Melissa had to go. Trump started out the Regis interview by saying that Joan quit. On the other hand, Trump lies a lot so maybe he was bending the truth this time. Her blog says she wants to beat them all, but then talks about going down in flames. Maybe the fact that she's not saying one way or another is a clue in itself. I always thought it was funny that as Joan was making talk show appearances before the season started she'd say next to nothing about The Apprentice. I thought at the time that she just didn't want to leak any spoilers, but now I wonder if she was intentionally refusing to promote this show. Another funny moment was watching Jim Cramer's face when he had to go along with Trump's note. It would've made a great Right Guard ad. Trump says he gave him that note because Cramer wanted Brande to go. On the show Cramer even asked first if Joan will know what he said, and Melissa told him not to worry about her mother's participation in the show. That's when Cramer went along with Trump's written note and said Melissa should be fired. It's no wonder Joan blamed Cramer for it all in her blog. I guess she didn't know what was on that note and thought her friend Donald just took bad advice from Cramer. In any event, somewhere Claudia Jordan was having a good laugh.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 2:58 am
Yes, Sea, that was his take on the show. Funny as always! on the realityblurred website is a link to the Hulu interview that she did that he is referring to.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 2:33 pm
I knew the minute I saw "The Donald" start writing the note, he was writing something about Melissa's comment cutting him off, I just didn't know what he was going to do with it. Then when he passed it to Cramer, bang, Melissa was history. Great messages! Everyone seems to have Annie pegged, and the whole situation for that matter. It looks like it's possible for an Annie win, but I sure hope not. ( I can't help it, I still like Joan, and feel Annie is the conniving school yard bully, Shades of Eddie Haskel?) You'd like to think people like this have to pay in the end for their behavior, but I'm afraid, in real life, it rarely happens that way.
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Braveheart61901
Member
08-11-2006
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:05 pm
Here's a link to an interview with Melissa. Haven't had time to see if it's already been posted, so my apologies if it has. http://www.fancast.com/blogs/celebrity-apprentice/celebrity-apprentice-boardroom-blow-up-melissa-rivers-tells-all/?cmpid=FCST_hpshowbiz0428
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:25 pm
What behaviour makes Annie a Bully? I've seen her be alot of things, but a bully isn't one of them.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:31 pm
Oh my gosh, Annie is SUCH a bully. Not an outright bully--a much worse kind. Insidious! Sneaky. Eddie Haskell. In a nutshell, she is a snake. She's using Brande (who she used to complain about outright) to help beat down Melissa who is clearly a much bigger threat. Now she's using Brande to her advantage. She will tackle her when she needs to and will be able to do that easily.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:41 pm
I think it is the way she talks over people, pits people against each other, ignores the person she doesn't need that week, fawns over the one she does need, just for starters.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:48 pm
Trump should have a winner takes all season between Annie and Piers.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 4:09 pm
Shes playing a game...to win. She may be full of herself, obnoxious, extremely competative, etc...maybe I'm wrong but to me, thats not being a bully. The way Joan was carrying on seemed more bully-like to me....and super duper childish to say the least I think Brande IS her biggest threat, not Melissa.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 4:29 pm
There's many ways to be a bully without physical contact. Some mean girls, when little, can talk behind the poor little geek girls back, set people up against her, then stand back and watch while the poor child's life is made miserable. This is a more insidious type of bully, but a bully none the less. I'm not exactly equating Annie with a real bully, just that watching Melissa's face, when she tried to "fit in", and make suggestions ( some were great by the way), and watch her get chilled out of the "cool girl clique", just reminded me of bullies I hear about in schools. I guess the difference is also, Annie seems to revel in being duplicitious, she enjoys the mayhem she sets in motions, I mean she IS a poker player, so what did we expect. I agree with all her neediness to be acknowledged and approval given, and that everyone see the greatness that is Annie. I agree, she is playing a great game, but I don't have to admire her technique nor her take no prisoners mentality.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 4:40 pm
Cinnamon, just wait til your little Matt is a few years older. And hopefully you'll never see it, but you may see at least one or two bullies in his life. They may not punch him in the face. They may be a whole lot sneakier than that. They may be like this one kid who is in Ryan's class who likes to make himself feel better by making Ryan look weak. He's never physically bullied Ryan, but he has tried to get other kids to gang up verbally on Ryan. Or in the bathroom (cuz he knows he can get away with a lot more there) he'll start mimicking some question or comment that Ryan said earlier in class. Maybe that is why I really think Annie is so nasty. People like her are bullies. They manipulate others to position themselves. It goes beyond playing a game. I LOVED Richard Hatch in Survivor 1. I loved Dr. Will in BB2. So it's not that I do not appreciate people playing dirty when they have to. I think Annie is real and it's not just game play. Plus add in all those me-me-me's and I-I-I's (oooh what a great cook she is, ooooh she knows so many famous people, oooh she is a friend of David Lee) and she ends up making me nauseous.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 4:51 pm
I think the game could be played with out the mean component, but I think Trump likes it ..
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 4:56 pm
That's what's so hard about stopping bullying, many don't realize it is bullying unless it's physical.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 5:48 pm
In two very recent cases, two eleven year old boys (in different states) were bullied so badly that they committed suicide. It was all words; and the schools did not take aggressive action merely because it was all words.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 5:58 pm
I think when you are talking about Joan's blowing up at Annie about being a lowly poker player you have to remember Joan's age. I know when I was a kid the only poker players I heard anyone talk about was riverboat gamblers or nasty men who lost all of their family's money on gambling. There was no such thing as Texas Hold 'em on TV making poker nice and pretty. Poker players were vilified back then so to Joan a poker player is very low on the totem pole. I get where she was coming from with those comments.
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