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Sourweedjm
Member
04-06-2007
| Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 11:14 am
loved the show!!!!!!!!!!!! what an awesome boss and great workers!!
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Miss_beej
Member
02-11-2010
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 5:20 pm
Really enjoyed the show. Anxious to see the Hooter's episode after TAR tonight.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 7:00 pm
its on now..
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 8:24 pm
I didn't enjoy this Hooters episode as much as the Waste Management one. It's still a good show, but this episode just didn't do much for me. I wanted to smack Billy-Bob or whatever his name was, that was making the girls eat the plates of beans. Talk about degrading women. He's lucky they gave him another chance instead of telling him to hit the road. He could have caused some big sexual harassment lawsuits for Hooters.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 8:44 pm
I didn't enjoy this one as much as the Waste Management one either. The Waste Management one had such compelling employees: the potty-cleaning man who brought such joy to the job, the woman with the large family and doing multiple jobs, and the gregarious neighborhood-friendly woman trash collector. I in fact wondered if they had searched out those special employees. This time it was "just" a manager who ran a good tight ship, a woman needing vacation with her kids, and that awful "Billy-Bob" manager. And isn't Hooters up for sale? which would also undercut the power of the episode.
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Oregonguy
Member
02-12-2006
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 9:01 pm
i saw an article a few days ago on aol or yahoo and its up for sale due to "family". i believe it as between the widow and the son/sons.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 9:50 pm
As I understand it, stepmom wants more than the money that was left her in the will, even tho she and dad were no longer living together when he died. So they may be selling to pay her off, and before the company loses more business. It's just an idea whose time came and went.. and the recession hasn't helped.
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Jennywa
Member
07-17-2003
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:23 pm
That guy who humiliated those women should have been fired! Also I have never nor will I ever enter a Hooters. It does demean women...
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 11:47 pm
The CEO didn't seem to get the big picture...if you are trying to expand your customer base, you need to decide...are you a "destination" location for men or are you a family restaurant? You can't be both!
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:58 am
I watched this tonight after somewhat liking the Waste Management show. Well, I don't like it anymore. It seems to me that the show alleges to show how hard the workers are and to humanize them--that's what purports to do, at least--but the show is really about the CEO. Tonight we learned about his Oedipal drama with his father, his shock to learn what people think of the restaurants (REALLY? Is he that out of touch?), his realization that women can be more effective managers than sexists, etc. (oh, and at the end, the update said she took "a less stressful job" after her vacation that allows her to spend more time with her family....which sounds like a non-promotion to me). So, we get a show that humanizes the CEO and tries to convince us they aren't really that bad and don't really deserve enmity because they're trying so darn hard, gosh darn it, even if they need a greater understanding of the inner workings of the companies they run. Sorry, but I don't buy what these CEOs are selling. I believe CEOs know that most employees are underpaid and that it's by design--they have to please their shareholders, after all. But this episode was particularly disingenuous: how does it really help a manager to donate $50K in his name to charity? It might be better, if less PR and camera friendly, to give him a raise so he might be able to make the charitable donation himself. And a vacation for a stressed out manager might be nice, but it's a band-aid solution to making the company more friendly for single parents. And I'd be willing to bet that those Texas Hooters employ undocumented workers who work 12 hour days for incredibly modest wages (if they are like almost any other restaurant in TX, CA, NM, etc). And the show is SO staged. He drinks a soda wrapped in duct tape? Cool. They happen to have his size manager trainee uniform on hand when he walks in the door? Super cool. They get into deep discussions with passers-by about how demeaning Hooters is to women? Yeah, totally. Oh, and when the sexist manager went into his "Well, if you don't like that I surpass all my sales targets" crap, I would have fired his ass right there, if not before. He's like a frat brother (and not one of the nice frats, either; one of the trashy third rate ones) who never grew up and thought it'd be cool to tell his beer drinking buddies about all the "b**ches" he worked with and how it turned him on to degrade them every day.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 6:15 am
I didn't care for this episode very much. I just didn't find the boss or the employess relatable. I do think the show is supposed to be more about the CEO and the revalations he makes that help him to be a better CEO (like we saw with WM). I don't think that happened with this episode. It will be interesting to see what next week's episode shows. They do know he's coming as his false identity, so I wouldn't be surprised they had a uniform ready. Any place I have ever worked that required a uniform had one ready for me on my first day. The sexist manager was awful. I am surprised he wasn't fired, but not surprised at how he tried to justify his behavior.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 6:33 am
There were no heros or god guys or gals or people to root for and no heart warming moments like with Waste Management. I think 7-11 will be better. I went to Hooters once with a group of people, we all got food poisoning. lol
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 7:19 am
The females at the front of the house have to wear tanks in either s or xs and shorts that don't cover their behinds as a uniform and he pretends to be clueless on why some women feel his restaurants are demeaning? And he really wants his daughters to parade around in that getup? And he wonders why he has at least one sexist manager? And he thinks this is supposed to be a family restaurant?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 7:56 am
Actually I don't think he had the authority to fire the bad manager...he mentioned that particular restaurant was owned by a franchisee and he called the owner and told him that the guy was out of line but since it wasn't directly owned by the corporation I don't think he could have fired him. It disturbed me that they referred to the girls as "the brand." That more than the uniforms dehumanized the women. 7-11 Corporation is in our building...I'm interested in knowing who the CEO is - see if I ever have seen him on the elevator and not known who he was.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 8:39 am
I thought the show seemed staged last week but boy oh boy this week made last week's ep look totally real. At least last week's was touching and had some feel good moments I suppose the deiciding factor will be next week's ep.
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Llwynn
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 9:28 am
It's a good thing they didn't air the Hooter's episode as the premiere. I would not have watched again. I found the CEO totally unlikeable. I don't know whether he had the authority to fire that manager or not, but the fact that they didn't totally turned me off.
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Bookworm
Member
12-18-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:00 am
To me the CEO of Hooters seemed like the rich kid who never really cared about (or got involved in) Dad's business, ended up with it, and now hasn't a clue how to run it. In comparison, the CEO of Waste Management seemed much more emotionally involved in his business. Waste Management guy seemed to really care about making the necessary changes. Hooters guy did not, perhaps he went on the show thinking it would be free advertising for his struggling company.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:40 am
Didn't he say something at the end, like 'now I know why I'm in this business?'. It seems like he never really had a love for the business, and indeed just inherited it and was doing the job because he thought his dad wanted him to. And that's ultimately why any company will flounder. The leader has to have a vision. Waste Mgt had some issues, but they are growing/thriving and vital in an ever changing market; because their CEO is personally invested. The Hooters CEO was just doing a job.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 10:55 am
I found him kind of sad. It was obvious that he didn't have much of a relationship with his father, he seemed sad about the loss of his brother, he loves his children but is divorced...I know he is a really wealthy guy but he seemed stuck in a job that he never really wanted (remember, he wanted to go into some type of law enforcement) and had no real passion for what he was doing. I know, I know, we would all like to have his "misfortune" of being a poor little rich boy, but to have a life that you aren't enjoying isn't worth it. Hopefully if he sells the company he can find something he can do that he will enjoy.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:18 am
I forgot. I really really hate it that throughout the entire episode they kept referring to grown women as girls. That irks me something fierce.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 11:26 am
I would have worked to create a program that offered management training for the girls to move them up from waitstaff to management (if they desire). Jimbo was an ass, and once a chauvanistic ass, always a chauvanistic ass - if he didn't have to take sensitivity training, he'd be totally out of a job now (and maybe that is why he was willing to change his tune on camera - the economy). Hooters has to do something to build their customer base, but trying to appeal to families is not appropriate. Marketing to college aged & young male professionals. Have Sport Nights (more TVs on the sports) to draw guys off their couches during the games. That is where their niche market is, and where they should stay. Stop trying to appease those who find the uniforms degrading - you won't be able to change their minds (these are often the same who think strippers are degraded - even though they make a ton more money than we do).

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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:31 pm
The outfits are offensive but I could live with them. Would be better if they had some complimentary guy thing. What really gets to me is the name... Hooters. We all know what that means. And how do they get away with the sexism in the first place? The airlines used to treat "stews" the same way. Now flight attendants are all ages, sexes and sizes.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:33 pm
roxi - Is Southland Corporation is still the owner of 7-11? Kona - what great ideas! Kar & Bookworm - I got the same impression about the CEO.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 1:59 pm
I don't think Southland Corporation has any association with 7-11 anymore...I'm not too sure that it even exists. I just looked online and it filed Chapter 11 in 1990 and reorganized under the 7-Eleven name (bought in part by its Japanese subsidiary). Most of their corporate offices are located in the same building as the law firm where I work (we are essentially the only 2 tenants). They are one of the most diverse companies I have ever seen - they are a regular United Nations and have many foreign guests and people who are training. It is interesting.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, February 15, 2010 - 3:14 pm
Back when I was at SMU, and internship with Southland was a coveted prize among the PR/marketing majors. It sounds interesting.
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