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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 6:57 am
I'm not watching this season (at least not until a certain couple of someone's are gone), but next week's TV Guide had some interesting info. First of all, they've gone back to the basics, and have paired the really expert pros with "stars" who may actually have a shot to win. Last season, Cheryl was out pretty quickly, IIRC. They also paired Tony with Kate because he is usually "paired with the difficult" partners. Along with cutting down the number of starting couples from 16 to 11 and the redesigned studio, it's no wonder that ratings are up a bit. Personally, as soon as the two reality "stars" are gone, I'll consider watching again. I did manage to catch a YouTube of Tony however, and am surprised to hear that person wasn't even in the bottom 2. WRT to Shannen, I don't think she's got much of a fan base. She's been the "difficult one" for far too long. And as for Pamela being in the bottom two, I agree with Sea. I don't think her "fans" would necessarily watch this show and her pro dancer is a relative unknown. From all I heard though, was surprised to hear Buzz wasn't in the bottom at all.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:18 am
demanded that her partner be fired and replaced. I must have missed part of the show because I don't remember Kate saying that. the Kate supporters vote because it's always someone else's fault I don't understand what you mean, could you please explain? I'm not blaming anyone else because Kate can't dance. That doesn't mean I can't vote for her. I'm voting for her because she was asked to be on and she is trying her damnedest and there is nobody else on there that I care enough about to vote for.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:28 am
quote:demanded that her partner be fired and replaced. I must have missed part of the show because I don't remember Kate saying that.
She didn't say it on DWTS show. Was reported that she did.
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Adven
Member
02-06-2001
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:41 am
I don't watch DWTS, but I did see a clip of Kate's performance. If I were her partner, I'd beg to be fired and replaced.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:45 am
Whether you like Kate, or not, she is a reality show celebrity/star. She deserves to be on the show just as much as all the other cheesy B-listers on this show. This is my first year to watch DWTS. I've been voting for Kate the last two weeks because I admire how hard she is working at something that is so far out of her element. I think it's amazing that she has started from zip and has danced as good as she has the last two weeks. As long as I see her working so hard to improve, I will keep voting for her. I think it's far more interesting to watch her struggle and see her progression than to watch actors cheese it up playing the part of a dancer or professional dancers and athletes,who are used to training, learning new movements and taking direction, dancing.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:45 am
LOL Adven
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Rosem4243
Member
06-27-2005
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:49 am
All I can say is that DWTS would be awfully boring if everyone started out as a great dancer. I don't usually vote, but I'm hoping that Derek and Nicole are out soon because she is already a great dancer. Seems unfair to me since the others are at a disadvantage. And I really like Derek, and as great as he is, he should've been given more of a challenge...like Kate, or Shannon. Is it in Derek's contract that he gets the 'ringer'? LOL!!
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:50 am
Kate may have her fans, but the thing is she's probably not going to get many new ones. Someone like Niecy or Erin will probably gain voters as the season goes along, and when couples are eliminated, a lot of them will split their votes among other people. The judges scores will become more important as the season goes on as well- and since they'll work with only one judges score and not two, each point in differential is worth more (for example, for the two weeks combined, each point difference was worth about 0.3% in that part of the overall score. If you took only the week 2 scores, each point difference was worth 0.45%. And the gap will increase next week- If you took Shannen's week 2 score out and kept everyone else's score the same, each point difference is worth 0.5%). I know it's a bit technical, but it's basically this: Each point in difference in judge's score is worth more as the season goes on. Also, as people are eliminated, the votes that would go to them go to others- usually the ones that improve and who didn't have much of a starting fanbase to begin with.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 7:59 am
Derek's partner isn't really a dancer--not anymore than, say, Nick Lachey's brother was that Carter boy last season was or Donny Osmond was. She is part of a singing act that includes some dancing in it. The thing I admire about her is that she learned and remembered the steps this week after she was invited on the show and is trying her hardest.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 8:13 am
Ballroom dancing, with a partner, really cannot be compared to the type of dancing the PCDs do, or the type of skating Evan does. Yes, they have some training, yes, Nicole can probably do the splits better than anyone else, but neither one has done partner dancing, or has done ballroom. I mean, really, is there anyone out there who hasn't danced at SOME point in their lives? And yes, I'm counting doing the funky chicken at weddings! 
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 8:20 am
LOL Costa.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 8:28 am
I was plesently surprised that Kate stayed. I too enjoy seeing the bad dancers improve. A good dancer from the get-go is pretty boring.
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Azriel
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 8:48 am
Costa, my husband has been trained in ballroom dancing and I've done a lot of dancing in my life, but when I get out on the dance floor with him I'm stepping on his feet and tripping over my own. LOL! I still think that athletes and professional any kind of dancers have a big edge going in because they are physically used to hard intense training and they are used to learning new body movements and taking direction from trainers and coaches. The mindset that it requires to master a dance routine is already there. I think the problem that athletes have is appearing at ease with the dance when they get the movements down and being able to engage the judges and audience. I think actors have an edge because even if they can't master the exact movements they can act like they are a dancer and appear to be at ease and smile and engage the audience and judges.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:05 am
There's an article on AOL but I can't ( after fighting with it a good hour ) send the link here it's too long and I keep getting an error message. Here's some of it. Was Doherty surprised that the 'I Hate Brenda Newsletter' apparently still has a solid subscription base? The actress skipped out on the press line after completing a few interviews, but her professional partner, even though he's injured, stuck around like a trooper to talk to AOL TV about the surprise ousting. "Shannen's okay," Ballas told us right after the show. "I think we're both in shock. I don't know what to say. I was going to try to come back Monday after my dad stepped in for me for rehearsals. Shannen worked hard and did a great job. We became great friends. I'm bummed out and dumbfounded." Viewers were left a little dumbfounded after Kate Gosselin said in the confessional "so what?" about missing a few steps in her Monday night performance. Pro dancer Edyta Sliwinska is giving the reality star a pass on the remark. She feels that you can't lament missing a step or two in a performance, but in rehearsals you should because that's when you have the chance to do it over. "When it comes to performance it is 'so what?'," Sliwinska says.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:28 am
I found it painful to watch Kate dance on Monday, I didn't think she could get any worse than the first dance but I was wrong. That is the reason I think she should have been gone last night.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:31 am
I always thought Shannen got a bad rap from working on those Aaron Spelling shows. Come on, do ANY of the actresses on those shows seem like perfectly agreeable little pollyannas to you guys? I though not. She probably told Aaron Spelling to stuff it one too many times and they wrote her out.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:38 am
I agree Ny and it was 15 or so years ago during her 20s. I'm a very different person now in my 40s than I was in my 20s. I imagine we all are.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:45 am
She didn't say it on DWTS show. Was reported that she did. Once again things are being contributed to Kate that she never said and everyone runs out believing it. Hey, I know of a bridge for sale....}
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 9:55 am
Twinkie, OK, I believed what I read. I wasn't there, so . . . . Were you there -- right next to Kate, personally heard every word she did (or didn't?) say? I doubt it. So you do not know for a fact that she didn't say it as much as I don't know that she did.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:05 am
Twinkie, I agree with everything you've said. I never voted on this show before and only have watched when there was someone I liked such as Cloris Leachman. Now I am voting by phone and online for Kate as long as she is there. The only meltdown/hissy fit I've seen comes from her so called professional dancer, Tony. He gets very defensive when questioned about his teaching ability which says more about him than her. She knows what she needs to learn and if he can't cooperate he should quit. She said nothing bad to him, couldn't have been kinder when explaining why she wasn't getting it and he walked off. Strange that he also walked off when the interviewer questioned his teaching ability. Someone is insecure and a DIVA! It sure isn't Kate.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:13 am
To me, liking Kate or not liking her doesn't influence things. What I dislike is she was the worst dancer and someone better than she is was ousted. Many folks dislike Shannen as well for tabloid BS. So that doesn't matter a rat's arse to me. I don't want Kate there because of her horrible dancing. Missing steps? Who's done that as badly as Kate did? I don't like that the judges scores matter so little. To me it's a huge disappointment in the show itself. I am upset that anyone can do badly and it doesn't matter. It degrades the whole purpose of trying hard and is a freaking popularity contest with voters who don't vote based on who is doing well or poorly. <55>
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:22 am
Missing steps? Who's done that as badly as Kate did? Master P might have, but I don't think it was any worse than Tony's partner was.
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Shenanagon
Member
07-28-2009
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:29 am
Master P isn't on this show. I'm discussing this show. Buzz and Chad fans aren't posting about how they are going to vote for people. I'd have been fine with Buzz, Chad or Kate going. Any other questions?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, March 31, 2010 - 10:31 am
Mama, I'm curious if you have watched the show in the past? I say this because Tony has a long history of being known as the kindest and most patient pro on the show. Seriously. In years past we've seen tons of other problems but NEVER, not ONCE any unkind or less than glowing report about him. If Kate's blowout had happened with someone like Maks, I might not take it as seriously as I did. But to see Tony quit was literally jaw dropping to me. It made me 100% convinced that Kate IS as hard to deal with as so many others have said. I base this on 9 years of seeing a sweet, kind, caring man who I don't recall ever ONCE losing his cool with any past partner. Nor have I ever heard any partner say anything but how kind and patient he was and lucky they were to have him. So for me, for him to quit, things had to be bad....VERY BAD. And from all I know of him, there's just no way the problem came from him. BTW as for him walking off...put yourself in his shoes. This man has literally spent a lifetime creating a deservedly glowing reputation for himself. And all of a sudden with ONE partner they are trying to turn him into something he is not nor has he ever been. For Kate this is a few weeks out of her life. For Tony this is his entire career. I could see why he would want no part of it. Plus if the rumors are true, Kate had just tried to get him fired, and the producers, respecting him flat out refused. I'm impressed he showed up, danced and stood there with her!
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