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Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 4:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Tracey is one twist short of a slinky.

I resent the comparison, Zgoodgirl. :-)

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
In a way, I feel a little sorry for Tracy. I think she's pretty desperate to stay and with limited training, probably feels extra-threatened.
Game play has always been a part of Biggest Loser in the past. The trainers were part of it, as well. It's a little disingenuous of Bob to be so angry with Tracy for bringing that aspect into it. He seemed okay with it in past years when he as a trainer was involved in the competition.
I'm not saying I agree with her decision, and her ability to gauge the people around her and difference in the whole atmosphere isn't that great, but I thought Jillian was really close to being a bully and setting up Tracy as the worst villain ever. I think she was taking it very personally that Tracy didn't follow her advice.

Llwynn
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llwynn a private message Print Post    
I think Bob said it best last night when he said "I hate gameplayers, gameplayers end up getting fat again" or something like that. It is probably true. You can tell who is there for themselves and who is there for the game/money. Tracey did NOT need to put a target on her back so soon.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
I have never gotten verklempt at the end of BL, until this episode.

Not to be off topic, but I also just watched "You Are What You Eat" on BBC. Interesting parallels and differences in approaches.



Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
I cannot wait to see what Jillian does with Tracey on the workouts next week! I bet she is all over that girl like white on rice!!

I slo-moed the previews and most people's faces look thinner next week except for Tracey's so maybe Karma will prevail.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Oh, and I hope we get to see Sean's baby Jillian at the finale. I love those 2 guys!! Anyone think we will see a proposal at the finale?

Panda
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
OMG Tracey has those "crazy eyes"! If there's a cap of her from last night's show out there......lol

The temptations will always be part of the game - TPTB love it when contestants jump on it. I agree it was kind of low but Bob & Jillian have seen some schemers in their time! I felt bad for Coach Mo to be attached to her.

oh and Rebecca's hair drives me nuts.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Love this show! Love the Red team! Not so nuts about Tracey...or Rebecca's hair though! lol!

Interesting to note that the Red team goes home as heroes not losers, and Tracey "wins" but will most likely go home losing much more than just some weight.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 9:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
I don't really understand why people are so angry at Tracy. She didn't come up with the competition. She just won it. Antoine also ate cupcakes, could have just as easily have been the winner, and would have been in that same position of having to pick which person's weight would count. But neither the judges nor anyone else seemed to call him on the fact that he ate as well.
And no matter who won, two people were still going home.
If they want to get rid of the whole voting people out and keep it a group effort, that's great. But if they're going to expect people to be in a competition with each other with prize money involved, then why should the trainers be that upset when they do play the game?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think MY anger came because Tracey was allowed to stay after spending a week in the hospital while Alexandra had to go home week 1 after working out and losing.

Then Tracey came back but was limited in workouts and I'm assuming that Bob and Jillian had to coach her.. that she didn't just wander off and design her own program. So she got first week bigger loss that helped her stay yet another week.

THEN she gives up having the trainers for the two pounds (which ended up making no difference) which might be fine if it didn't drag along her partner. He did not agree to this action. And it hurt him loss-wise. It put a target on Tracey but also her partner.

Then she boo hooed to Bob and Jillian and got their advice and turned around and took the temptation. Again, putting her partner in a horrible position;.

Then she lied to several people and targetted people with more to lose. She showed no compassion.

And somehow she lost 11 pounds in her second week, without trainers and with low impact workouts? Why do I suspect she starved or purged?

And of course the first week when she got heat exhaustion she brought that on totally herself by trying to be a jack rabbitt and insisting on trying to beat a guy she KNEW had been working out for months. So she put herself in the hospital, then her partner worked like crazy to keep her in the game, she gets a pass on competitions but reaps the benefits.

As for the trainers, that's just their schtick and like anyone they don't like to be dismissed and used and ignored.

Other than that, she's just fine

I hope she goes home next week and that Mo stays for a very long time.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
LOL! What Sea said! Well said! Couldn't have said it any better.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
ditto what Seamonkey said! It was the out and out lying and phoney compassion when the others came to her before the weigh in and then the smirk on her face when she back stabbed them!

Boooo Tracey.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
I'm not saying I agree with what Tracy did. I'm just saying that Antoine would have had to have done the same thing as well.
Personally, I'd rather they just have it be a weight loss program and be done with it. But they want to create controversy and that's why they set people up. Desperate people who maybe do desperate things to stay in the place that they think might be their last hope.
I think Tracy may be one of those people who are always sabotaging themselves. With their own weight and their own relationships. I just feel kind of bad for her.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
OH yes and she tried to claim the she had "faith" in a couple of the people she put up to be weighed when clearly she had hoped and thought they would have lower % than their partners. They saw through that.

and then she whined when no one clapped for her?

As for Allen of Green Team taking temptation, he did have a reason because with his partner Abby being injured and thus on water workouts, he wanted to keep their team on the ranch. Abby is the one who lose her family and he felt she needed to be protected. So his reason for trying to get that advantage was a bit different. He also didn't eat as much and he's bigger. LOL (Antoine took temptation, not Allen)

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
Allen won immunity in the last challenge and I'm glad he did and kept Abby safe, but what temptation did he take?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Antoine didn't grab the two pound advantage, so his team was busting their butts with the trainers and we don't know that he would have done the same thing, at all. Or that he would have done it in a conniving and mean way. If Tracey had been below the yellow line with Orange team do you think for a minute she would have graciously and gracefully asked them to KEEP orange team in? Not on your life. Mo, I can see him doing that, but not Tracey. Antoine vs Tracey.. very very different people.

Yes, I agree that Tracey is sad and self-sabotages (and I also can see that Shay does that too, so I HOPE she lives up to what was given to her by the red team), but I hate that she ignored Bob, Jillian AND her own partner. Her partner who had busted his BUTT week one to make sure she stayed in, because had he been below the line, they'd have sent Tracey home. And then he busted his butt again because she couldn't train as hard. So as a think you, she takes the trainers away from him? Pfft.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
By the way, apparently Jillian said on the radio that one of the contestants on this season was the "spawn of Satan" but in Twitter she says she was wrong and to stay tuned. But she loves the Red Team. And Bob tweeted about how he and Jillian are worth more than two pounds :-)

She and Bob are out today telling people they made the show for BL9.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Allen won immunity the old fashioned way by winning a difficult competition.. carrying weights up a steep incline and raising his flag before the next best team.

And I was wrong, it was Antoine who ate the two cupcakes, not Allen.. ACK!

Scout
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01-20-2005

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scout a private message Print Post    
Tracy has already admitted she makes bad, snap judgements. Had Antoine not eaten the first cupcake, she might not have eaten any. Once it was announced that someone had eaten one, she immediately starts eating them - thinking I guess that if she doesn't, she's going home.

Once Tracy had won, she'd pretty much shot herself in the foot and was in a lose/lose postition afterwards. Yes, she could have handled it all in a better way. No doubt about it. But regardless of what she did, a team would have gone home and their would have been hard feelings.
As amazing and upstanding as Antoine is, I don't see any way that he could have won and not managed to at least cause a few hard feelings.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I understand what Scout is saying. The show producers set up these temptations and challenges with the sole purpose of producing conflict. LOL - We've all heard the expression - don't hate the player - hate the game.

(Um ... I'm not suggesting anyone here is hating by the way)

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What was that about Jillian saying "spawn of Satan" and then saying she was wrong? Did she change her mind?

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Tracey basically made a bunch of enemies for no reason at all. None of the choices she made really ended up making a difference, imo. She still lost the most weight(how?)
On a side note, her partner looks and sounds like the guy on the Office.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tracey may have bought herself one more week, but she also made herself a HUGE target. She claims she was just playing the game, but the truth is that making yourself despised and being that open about "playing the game" means others will be gunning for you. It was an impulsive move and not a good game playing choice at all, no matter how much she'd like to think so.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm not much of a fan of the "game" aspect of the show. It's my least favorite part.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Sea, our great queen of stats , who would have been the bottom 2 teams if they calculated %s on both team members like they normally do?

I just realized that if Tracey goes home next week, then Coach Mo goes with her. I don't think that is fair to him.

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
As much as I am not rooting for Tracy, isn't this a game? Shouldn't people try to find ways to stay longer? True she didn't use her power wisely but it did keep her in the game a week longer and she got rid of two very competitive players. Isn't that the point of the game?