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Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I think Tony was embarrassed and didn't want to see himself say he quit. I'm assuming (which is dangerous) that that's what he meant when he said he wasn't brought up that way.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
There are always stories about Kate being difficult. Some people say it's because she's a perfectionist, well sorry I know plenty of perfectionists and none are constantly being accused of being difficult. Same goes with people excusing her bad behavior because the stress of her having kids and the stress from the divorce. None of those are legitimate reasons for constant rumors of her being difficult. Talk to folks that have trouble feeding their kids, clothing them and providing good health care.....those are stressed people. Kate lives a charmed life even if she married Jon. So I believe the likelihood of the rumors that she tried to get Tony fired are probably more true than false. Whats that saying is it walks like...

But all that doesn't matter for DWTS, bottom line is she can't dance and should be gone soon along with Buzz. Well, that is if this is truly a dancing competition but if this is a popularity contest she can stick around a long time. There are many many women that adore and almost worship her. I bet most of those women have had bad relationships and relate to her on those grounds. And she's got a ton of fans just because people fell in love with her and Jons kids. So if this is really a popularity contest she can stick around for a very long time.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
And the thing about the tabloids....Kate could have very well asked for a different partner, but change a couple words and make it that she "demanded he be fired", and it takes on a whole new dramatic meaning, without it being a total lie. We've seen that happen over and over in the tabloids. Heck, I see it happen on the supposed cable "news" channels.

Shenanagon
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07-28-2009

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shenanagon a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't put it past DWTS to leak sensational stories just to start the sort of buzz this particular story has on this discussion board alone. It's all about the ratings. There's another article somewhere where Tony says that Kate was asked to be on the show and that DWTS asks the celebs to be on not the other way around. Shannen was quoted as saying she'd been asked a few times and only agreed this last time because of her fathers recent stroke. Shannen says she told him and he couldn't talk but his face lit up so she decided to do it after declining previous invites to be on the show.

My point here is that DWTS wants viewers to tune in and Kate does that for them. So why not leak a story or two or three lol no way to verify unknown sources. Could be true could be complete BS.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Meanwhile, Brooke Burke is pregnant!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
LOL Kitt. I saw that about Brooke this morning, but I make it a rule not to report news to the group that I hear on April Fool's Day. You never know :-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I didn't think of that! I presume it's real though, it's not like she's Jennifer Aniston.

On a similar vein, ABC's front page features an ad for "Dancing with the Tsars," and other goodies like "W," the sequel to "V."

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
she just doesn't see herself and how bad she comes across.

Ophiliasgrandma stated:
Do any of us?

Perhaps not, but we aren't trying to be in the public eye so very hard.

Brooke Burke is expecting again? How many children does she already have?

Read the Star article on Kate while at the store and it's not flattering. Can anyone tell me why she must have that bodyguard at all times and a personal chef travels with her? Why??

Who does she really want this lifestyle for? She seems to be getting all the benefits.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
OK, checked her twitter - she's NOT pregnant!! Fooled me!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I'm not trying to support 8 little kids with no help from their father. I believe Kate has to make the money while she can, and I say good for her to do what it takes.

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
I don't think anyone is saying that Kate shouldn't be making money. It's better she make money than have the state paying for her EIGHT kids. I suppose the big Kate thing is that her dancing sucked, bigtime! BIG TIME. It's been mentioned before that DWTS has become more of a popularity contest than a dance contest. The 2 worst were Buzz and Kate neither were bottom 2.

As much bad press that Kate gets she does have a rather large fan base. I don't know who those people are or what their mindset is because from all reports she's a rather nasty person.

She's not the only woman out there suporting kids without help from their father. She really milks that BIG Time.

But the bottom line is she can't dance and should be gone pretty soon.

Florin
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08-27-2006

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Florin a private message Print Post    
I don't remember hearing anything about a private chef but I think the body guards started when the family was being hounded by the paparazzi.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
TLC provided the bodyguards at least while she's working for them. And they were needed when the paparazzi started hounding her which I don't think started until Jon was caught on camera partying with 19 year olds (this was the teacher with the chatty brother who brought the paps to her condo so he could get his 15 min.. this was before Hailey or before we were aware of Hailey.

As far as something being reported repeatedly, sure it could be true or it could just be reported repeatedly, like Dr Phil's 20 year long reported divorce/soon to divorce reports.

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As for telling a story, Kate and Tony will be dancing the Paso Doble which usually does tell a story.

Buzz.. not sure they are slated for Paso next show or not but certainly they've given him moon/space themes already.

With Jake it is interesting.. on Bachelorette/Bachelor he was always billed as a pilot with pilot/flight themes, but now on DWTS his claim to fame seems to be all about his Bachelor gigs and roses.. guess Buzz has locked up the flight theme for DWTS. He flew sooner and higher than Jake.

What would other themes be. for Pam (beach/baywatch), Neicy (lol.. she could be a French maid for Clean House?), Erin, sports.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
::::banging head against desk::::::::

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
<<I don't think anyone is saying that Kate shouldn't be making money. It's better she make money than have the state paying for her EIGHT kids. I suppose the big Kate thing is that her dancing sucked, bigtime! BIG TIME.>>

Kate supporter here, and ITA about her dancing. Yikes! LOL But there have been plenty of comments about HOW she makes the money to raise her kids (since Jon apparently doesn't feel the need...). It has been brought up countless times that she should just go back to nursing.

<<As much bad press that Kate gets she does have a rather large fan base. I don't know who those people are or what their mindset is because from all reports she's a rather nasty person.>>

I'm one of those people. I judge based on what I've seen and read, and I still like her just fine. It's like those reading comprehension tests in school, we don't read or see things the exact way others do. <57>

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
This is not the first time, nor will it be the last time, that the "worst" dancer has been safe the first week. And if that's what people want, shouldn't Buzz have been the first to go?

I do find amusement on how much the tiff between Kate and Tony has riled people up...first of all, it's an edited show, the producers love the drama! Second, it's not as if we haven't seen this before between partners. It's all about the ratings and the money, people...just as in every other reality show on television.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
<<I do find amusement on how much the tiff between Kate and Tony has riled people up...first of all, it's an edited show, the producers love the drama!>>

I'm sure they do too Keldogg. And this is what Tom Bergeron's Twitter page said today:
Love to see these stories popping up! DWTS Ratings on a Roll!!

...and here's the story he referenced:
http://television.aol.com/dancing-with-the-stars/2010/03/31/dancing-with-the-stars-american-idol-ratings/

Based on what the article was saying, Tom is basically saying that the "stories" are just that...stories

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Jimmer said yesterday in ref to an article link posted by Wilson re: next week's routine of Kate and Tony telling the story of Kate and Jon Gosselin:
"Isn't that linked story a joke?"

I thought it was a joke too. I didn't read that part of this thread or that article until just now. My first thought was that today is April Fool's Day. I checked the date on the article, it was 3/30, so, I realize it isn't an April Fool's Joke, but that was my first impression. In the article it said "we kid" or something like that. So I kind of think it might be a joke. Otherwise, I really wonder what the author of the article meant about kidding.

Lurk, I have really enjoyed your posts. :-) (I don't agree with you about Kate, but I'm really enjoying reading your viewpoints.)

Cricket, you mentioned Jake going too far with his partner. I missed almost the whole last show, what is he doing?

Jake and Kate are the two I'm most interested in really. I thought I'd be more interested in Evan, but I'm just not. I'm a fan of Buzz too, but his dancing is hard to watch. (Kate's dancing is hard to watch too.)

I finally saw the entire clip of Kate and Tony's rehearsal. I am so surprised that it is even being talked about with negativity toward Kate or that it is any big deal at all. (...in a way...in another way I know that Kate is pretty much damned if she does or damned if she doesn't with absolutely everything in the minds of many, especially the media/entertainment tv shows and magazines and internet sites. And I understand why that is because she was on J&K+8 shown being very annoyed and bossy and not always super patient and it will be held against her forever in the minds of some and also because once someone has a reputation for that it seems to prove that she must be like that always.)

I'm with OG here, Tony seemed to me to be the one who had defensive behavior and not listening to Kate. I did not see her as being offensive, rude or condescending to him at all. I thought she was legitimately trying to tell him she didn't know how to make herself do what he wanted her to do and asking him to teach her in a way that she could understand it better. I didn't see her as criticizing his teaching, he is the one who brought that up.

Kate is not my favorite person. I would never probably be friends with her. I do find her somewhat irritating and she was rude to Jon at time. But she admitted that she did not speak as nicely to him at times as she should have. Hopefully she has learned from that and is trying to do better.

I feel I look at her very objectively. If you take just the incident with Tony in rehearsal as one incident all by itself, can you really say she was awful to him? (I'm not really asking anyone to answer that and it is not directed toward anyone.) I thought she was very reasonable with Tony in that rehearsal. I thought she was polite. He interrupted her and got defensive. She continued to be polite and reasonable.

I also don't think that just because he teaches teachers how to teach dance that he is "right" in this situation (the rehearsal with Kate) and that she is "wrong". Maybe he has never had someone so very bad at dancing as Kate or someone who gets so stressed out as Kate. Everyone has their breaking point. Just because he may have had it with her doesn't = Kate is a difficult or awful person.

DWTS is not a normal learning how to dance situation. It is very stressful. There is a lot to learn in a short period of time and one is subjected to public criticism and that is stressful too, especially if you are not a performer of any kind. So I think that Tony really has had only about 9 others to teach in this situation. So I don't think that teaching anyone not on DWTS and teaching other dance teachers really is super comparable to the situation with Kate.

I think it is more interesting for the audience to have all sorts of people to pair up with the dance pros. It is called DWTS and to get the viewers, they do need to be well known publicly. I really wish they would not have pro athletes or dancers on as the stars. I really would like to see a dance competition and feel that there is no competition when you get someone like Kate who can't dance up against an olympic gold medalist for figure skating which does involve a lot of dance.

Since Pam is still there, I hope she never again acts as weird as she did on the first show. She wasn't entertaining for me at all.

Donnagg
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08-11-2007

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donnagg a private message Print Post    
Concerning Tony and Kate we don't know how long he had been trying to teach her that step. I got the feeling he had been trying for a while.[I could be wrong]. They both were probably tired and flustered. I'm not gonna hold anything said against either one for now,but I will be watching them closely.LOL

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Earlier I reported on a TV Guide article that said Tony is usually paired with "difficult" dancers. Here's who he's been paired with in the past. The best he's done is 3rd place (Keibler and Rycroft). Most often he's out before the midway point.

Stacy Keibler

Sara Evans

Leeza Gibbons

Jane Seymour

Marissa Jaret Winokur

Susan Lucci

Melissa Rycroft

Kathy Ireland

Kate Gosselin

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't recall Tony having any issues with any of those partners. It will be interesting to see what happens on next week's show (and I'm sure ABC would be thrilled to hear me saying that).

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Kitt, you know I love you, and I want you to know when I posted about not posting news on this day, I really had no idea the Brooke thing was a prank. I thought it "might" be true, but I was too scared to post it because of the day. I wasn't making fun of you or anything. I hope you know that.

Yesitsme
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08-24-2004

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yesitsme a private message Print Post    
Not sure how I feel about Kate overall, and at first I did think she was a bit obnoxious with Tony, but then when he started talking I jumped into Camp Kate. He seemed pretty condescending and it reminded me how at times I have been annoyed when someone had that sort of attitude towards me. People learn differently and while he may know dancing, she does know herself. A good teacher would at least listen to what she had to say about what would help her learn. She was tired and frustrated and probably embarrassed and he should have helped calm her down. Or then again, the whole thing may have been fabricated by the show....but why would she agree to encouraging that sort of reputation?

Rosem4243
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06-27-2005

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
What Happymom said.

That was a very objective post, and that's how I view it, too.



Even though Kate can't dance, and had a tiff with her partner, I'm more annoyed that Aiden made Edyta cry!!!

Poor Edyta...she has been on every season and has never won...I don't blame her at all for getting upset, and he acted like a spoiled brat!

He better BUCK UP and help Edyta win!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, April 01, 2010 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Naja, of course I know you weren't making fun ! It didn't even occur to me it might be a prank though, I mean, she's had five, what's one more!