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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 9:56 pm
So Kate's a terrible person for exploiting and making money off of her children AND she's a terrible person for not letting other people have the opportunity to do the same? Kate's objection was not that they would appear on the show. Her objection was that they would make money off of the deal (at least according to the stories that have been put out by her sister-in-law).
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 4:03 am
In all fairness, Kate did say Jon took her "liquid" money. That says they must have investment funds somewhere.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 4:42 am
Cricket, what did Donny say to Jon? kate made it very clear on the today show that the children's money was protected, substantial and safe.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 6:27 am
Texannie, Donny said Jon might have wanted to try harder to save the marriage, whereupon Jon said Kate wanted the divorce, not him. Then Donny said he knows he hasn't been a perfect husband...just ask his wife....however, in a marriage a man must think "What's best for my wife." Jon just gave him kind of a funny look and said nothing. (I thought he rolled his eyes, so rewound, but he didn't.) He seemed to take back something into his mouth and said nothing and looked over to the hostess to his left. Only, the reason I know why Kate was on the today show is that's what was stated for her visit there. This was last Friday, before the money thing blew up. I'm beginning to see what may have happened here regarding the money. Jon said he's only taken 10% of his salary since the show started. However, he took that 10% this year, lol. Just because he hadn't been taking it, Kate may have still spent it, so that could be where the money has gone. Jon said he's taken $177,000 from the bank this year; prior to that...nothing. He said they'd made 2,250,000 from the show and he's taken less than 10% ($177,000.) Kate handled the money. I think Kate just gave Jon a small amount of money per week, so she could still be thinking that's all Jon would take and when he took living expenses, etc. to live on (and vacation on) the money disappeared and she said he stole it.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 6:45 am
This entire divorce is a big mess. Divorce doesn't have to be a mess....never easy but doesn't have to be a mess and made a public as this one is. "War or the Plus 8". Can you imagine if neither wanted to give up living at the house and both remained cutting the home in half. I don't even know how they share the house as it is considering how much they hate each other. I predict sooner than later Kate will start saying Jon is stealing things from the house. They both seem to have forgotten their Christian roots and their bible scriptures. From what I have read (this may have changes) her latest book has been put on hold and waiting for the Christmas rush to be put out. She never mentions her book when she makes her rounds on the talk show circuit. It was evident to me she was on Today to complain publicly about Jon withdrawing monies. It may have been the only liquid cash they had, although I doubt it but even if it was it doesn't take but 24/48 hrs to liquidate other monies. It wasn't so egregious that she needed to talk about it publicly. It's been said before, these 2 can use some professional couch time. It looks like its all about the money right now and less about the kids. I bet the kids have seen snippets of their parents on various talk shows complaining about the other. This final divorce decree can't come soon enough.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 7:09 am
It was evident to me she was on Today to complain publicly about Jon withdrawing monies. It was said somewhere that she was on the Today show to discuss the show being put on hold. The money issue came up a day or two prior and she was already scheduled. If your scenario about the money is correct Cricket, its still wrong. I don't think he can back pay himself for those years... did she get the equivalent? It looks like its all about the money right now Money is a big factor in this marriage, I would think it is in most...nothing shocking there.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 7:58 am
But why not wait until the divorce settlement before taking the money? Jon should have let the courts decide.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 8:15 am
Why would she go on Today and complain about her show and then bring up the money. It's the same thing....complaining and crying fake as it may be. She's bringing her families personal divorce business onto TV, shame on her. This is what she thinks is in the best interest of her children complaining about money and Jon wanting the kids off the TV and have some privacy. Complaining on Today about Jon pulling the plug on the show...really Kate this is best for your kids...they watch TV and their friends watch TV??? She publicly went on air to complain, complain, complain and make the kids feel bad about the destruction of their family unit. Who willingly wants to air their dirty divorce matters on TV.....a media addicted, attention seeking, be darned the children, self centered mother. Jon should keep it on his pants and Kate should keep it private for no other reason than the kids she claims is her first priority.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 8:38 am
I think others have already pegged why Kate wants to cry to the media and public about this divorce and the path it's taken -- it's because she doesn't have any close friends or family to have these talks with, not one to pour out all of these feelings and frustrations to. She's isolated and detached herself from all of them. She's alone.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 8:41 am
Unfortunately, unlike celebs who have learned over time to handle the media, they don't seem to get that the media is not your friend. And that goes for both of them. Perhaps it's different when most of your experience with 'media' is people you welcome into your home. Both of them need to stop talking about it publicly and just let the lawyers deal. That's what most savvy public personalities do. They're just not savvy.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:07 am
I agree Kar.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:38 am
Just to point out that Kate went on the Today show to respond to Jon's own media blitz on LKL and ET and other shows accusing her and TLC of exploiting the kids. She did NOT strike first. At the same time, I think she DID handle it poorly. I think she should have just let it all be handled in court. I can understand why she didn't, as it's really hard to stand by while somebody who has not shown an ability to make good decisions lately has taken control of your livelihood. Whether or not you approve of Jon's choice, and I DO get that many people think he's in the right, he made a sudden, impulsive decision that has rocked her world and made life much more difficult for her. I think anyone would panic under those circumstances and come out fighting. Her biggest mistake was not in defending herself, it was doing so so publicly.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 10:54 am
It seems the judge's ruling regarding Jon "allegedly" taking the money out, which was supposed to happen today, is going to have to wait at least another week, because the judge's wife died and he's out on family emergency. If Jon did take it, that money is going to be long gone and spent. Kate's "luck" couldn't be any worse right now.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:13 am
I agree Kar and Onlyhuman. She is probably so scared about money and the future. She is probably scared that the courts cannot protect the money from Jon. She probably doesn't trust that he will provide financially in the future. She can only really trust herself right now...she only has herself to depend on and probably doesn't trust that even though they have 8 kids together that Jon will do his part financially for whatever reason. I would feel the same way if I were her. Sure there is a lot of money...but if she can't make it in tv and Jon never contributes financially, that money that she has now is going to have to go a long way. I'm sure she doesn't feel that she alone should have to pay for all the expenses for the house and kids (and she shouldn't have to and legally won't have to ... but if Jon never generates income...there is nothing to get and I'm sure she is not counting on him) ... the kids should be able to live in that big house and have opportunities and have all their college paid for and never have to worry about money until they've graduated college. But if Jon is going to be irresponsible about money, she has to worry and try the best she can to make money. I don't think she feels at all that they have been or will be harmed by filming that show. I'm not sure it is harmful for the kids. Re: statute of liberty trip...I think she is very scared and in panic mode and it isn't that they can't go to stat. of lib ever...it just came out that way because of the extreme stress she is under. Re: party with B. Walters...this is networking for her job. It is to lead to tv jobs hopefully. this is to make money to support herself and her kids. I don't even think extravagantly. I think she is worried about food for her kids down the road. If she never makes another cent from future tv shows...residual checks onlly go so far and they may not show reruns from j and k plus 8 forever. A nurses salary even with overtime is not going to go very far. Besides, I'm sure she is thinking that they have made enough money so far and if they are wise about it the kids can and should grow up in that nice house. But she can't really trust Jon or even the courts to make sure that happens. Just because I am not in their financial situation with doesn't mean I think they aren't entitled to that money and should have to do with less just because I must do with less. Also, even if it will someday be declared his money to have taken (and it doesn't sound like that was the case at all)...leaving her with only $1000 to pay more than $1000 of bills that are his bills too is not a decent thing to do at all. Re: her money from books and speaking engagements. If PA is a community property state, probably half of all the money she made is Jon's up until the date of separation.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:14 am
Ok I missed it, Jon drained the account? Why didnt she take his name off the account months ago???
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:15 am
From the view point of someone who worked for an attorney and seeing the cases... They are absolutely no different from the thousands of people who get divorced everyday. They are facing the same dramas that I see regular people face everyday. From low income to large income they still react, accuse and play the victim the same. The only difference? They are on TV and every aspect of their lives are open for everyone to pick apart without actually knowing what is going on. Maybe neither one of them is to blame. Maybe the media and the public demanding to peer into every aspect on their lives, giving opinions on things know nothing about is actually what is really to blame. Sure they agreed to be on the show, but how could anyone know what a circus their lives would turn into? How things can be distorted by editing. For example. Say Jon Sneezes and Kate is in another room and smells a stinky diaper on a baby. All we see is Jon Sneeze and Kate with a bad face as if she is faulting him for sneezing. Sure, Kate is a PIA, but so is Jon and as a matter of fact so am I. I just don't have all my words, actions and deeds being picked apart by America. Lord knows, I would never survive it.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:23 am
Terolyn, I am a big PIA too LOL!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:28 am
Terolyn, I agree. That's why they need to get away from the media. Or answer a question or two to state their case and then change the subject to what projects they are working on now. I was very impressed with Paul what's his name from Letterman who was promoting his new book on the Early Show. He refused to answer questions about Dave's drama, and when the question was repeated he started blabbering about a mood ring until Harry Reasoner was distracted and moved on. This is the savvy of someone who's been in the public eye for a long time - and uh, who doesn't 'do drama'. It's very very very hard to get a divorce. And frankly, these two were not ready to divorce. In a good situation, you get counseling for a long time to either fix the marriage or dissipate the anger and dissapointment before you divorce. This is just a mess. Kittyab, it would have been illegal for her to take his name off the account. The courts have to decide. It seems like Kate hasn't been paying attention to the withdrawals he has been making over the last month or so, so it took her by surprise. Or maybe since the court said *she* couldn't pull the money out, she thought he wouldn't. Reasonably, they should have been notifying each other about withdrawals from the joint account. But divorce is not usually reasonable.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:35 am
Tomorrow is Mady & Cara's 9th birthday. I bet it will be a fun one.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:44 am
PIA?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:47 am
Ahnicka, most of us use PITA. Pain In The A... I think they just left the T out.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 11:54 am
Ohhhhhhhhhhh ok, LOL, thanks!
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 12:02 pm
Oh my! Courtesy of TMZ: The Jon & Kate battle never ends -- and a war is brewing over tomorrow's birthday festivities for twins Mady and Cara. We just got a pissed Papa Gosselin in NYC, where he actually whipped out his BlackBerry and read a new e-mail from Kate aloud -- one saying she refuses to see him and wants to limit his time with the kids on Thursday to only two hours. Jon says the duo had originally planned to have a party together, but according to the e-mail, Kate now believes "Due to recent events, it'll be too stressful." Jon called her demands "ridiculous," adding "I can stay as long as I want ... and I will."
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 12:03 pm
PITA is a term of endearment in our house...just sayin'
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, October 07, 2009 - 12:11 pm
Better to have peace especially on their birthdays and celebrate with each parent separately. I feel so sorry for the kids and for Kate. Jon is acting like a big baby. imo
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