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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:52 pm
And who knows what the courts would rule.. as I recall Denise Richards WAS allowed to film with the children despite their father trying to block her from doing so. But who knows what the PA courts could decide. As for filming on "Jon Gosselin's property" he has had to admit that Kate is also an owner, so, again, that would have to be up to a court to decide. Or mediation. Or.. he has to be given enough money or releas from TLC contracts or whatever he REALLY wants.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 11:17 pm
The idea that Jon has been driven by Kate to act like a 14 year old teenager makes me laugh. Jon has shown that he wants the press, he wants the attention. He has shown that he has no concern about what this is doing to his children. Stopping the production only shows that he wants power and control. If the cameras go away, so does the money. How does he plan to take care of his children then?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 11:46 pm
My guess is that he (and his attorney) think they can either get his free of TLC and then he can go do one of the other reality shows being considered or he can still have the line of children's clothing with his kids as models. OR They think they can sue TLC for so much money he will be able to continue to live high and buy property and maybe get his own motorcycle. But yeah, control/power. Of course the attorney simply sees publicity and dollar signs. IMO.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 11:53 pm
I agree with Kellirippa, Brenda and Cricket, great posts!!
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:43 am
I think a certain amount is being done to portray Kate in a different light. At the same time, it seems like Kate is attempting to do things differently. I doubt that she is a perfect person or a perfect parent, but what I see is someone who is at least trying to live by what she is saying. At times it seems a little fake to me, but I don't see her behavior contradicting her words. On the other hand, Jon is complaining about the press and about exploitation of his family to television reporters. He has given interviews at his front gate. He is the one who said he detests Kate and called her an abusive wife in an interview. He made a point of inviting the press onto the property to witness the dogs being sent back to the breeder, blaming Kate for this turn of events. Now he claims, ON TV, that he wants to stop the TV show because the divorce is difficult for the children. HE is the one who has made the divorce difficult through his own behavior, not the TV show. By going on TV to air his complaints publicly, he is continuing the drama in the public eye, rather than handling it privately as he CLAIMS he wants to do. I can't believe what he now says because his own actions contradict the very words he speaks.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 7:41 am
and called her an abusive wife If it looks like a duck...
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Jkm
Member
07-10-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 7:44 am
The new lawyer is the winner in all of this - in my opinion - he contacted Jon - finally got him to listen about how screwed he was going to be - got old lawyer fired/let go/quit - New lawyer and team have set Jon down and told him exactly what to say and do to 1) get him out of his contract with TLC because it has been holding up many of his proposed business ventures (clothing/different show/etc) 2) reverse court of public opinion before finalizing divorce -(so he gets at least equal if not more than Kate in money/power/kid time) - That was the only reason to put brakes on court procedings - fix his image ---- Basically - Money and Power More than likely - all lawyers will end up with the most money... Jon will come out the "winner" if there is such a thing and Kate will lose - she'll lose what she thinks is the best chance at providing for her kids (she'll have to come up with other options) When my parents divorced - they were doing so much mud slinging at each other (witnesses etc) that we nearly ended up with neither.. they ended up spliting us up between the parents outside of court - Jon's actions still speak to being really immature... In the end - the house/property will get sold - each parent will have to have their own place for the kids. By the end of the next 3 years - Kate will have faded away because no one will be paying any attention anymore and Jon will be on Celebrity fit club as another "Screach" D lister..
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:02 am
Yes, it is about money and power. Does this shock anyone? Kate had all the power. Jon found a lawyer (or the lawyer found him) who's now trying to gain Jon some power. I'm sure if they give Jon what he wants (some kind of settlement out of his contract and freedom to pursue his other interests) he will allow filming of Kate and the kids to continue. Jon has done a lot of boneheaded things lately, but I can't blame him for trying to get some power after spending years having little to none. If Kate really wants a media career she's got to get over the diva behavior. No one is going to put up with that from a reality TV show person.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:13 am
JKM.. Great post!The lawyers are the only ones who come out ahead!! It's all about money. Jon reminds me of a guy going through mid life crisis... the earring in his ear, the younger girlfriend.. the faster lifestyle.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 9:25 am
and called her an abusive wife If it looks like a duck... But calling your wife names in public is a direct contradiction for the man who blames a TV company for making the divorce difficult for his children. There are plenty of names that Kate could have called Jon, given his recent behavior. To her credit, she has kept her head down to protect her children. Jon, on the other hand, has become the poster child for the Midlife Crisis Syndrome. But we are supposed to accept that his current, publicly indulged actions are for the children's sake? I just don't buy it. Even if he's seeking power he's been denied (awww, poor little man, so mistreated and helpless), he's doing it in the most harmful way possible, by turning it into a public spectacle. Not the way someone who is truly concerned about his children should behave.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:12 am
I certainly CAN blame Jon for the way he is trying to get power.. at the expense of his family. And just because Jon SAYS it is a duck.. (and no, I don't agree that it looks like a duck, either.) I think based on the show, calling Kate an abuser completely belittles what many people go through who are actually ABUSED. I cannot see Jon as helpless or brainwashed or beaten down in the least. Can't he see that he is now turning over the power to the attorney and that the attorney had no one's best interests at heart but his own? I think he has used that huge figure that he says TLC made (AS IF that was all from J/K show ... not from the dozens of shows they air) and with that huge figure in mind, Jon thinks he can get a huge slice of that pie AND be free to "explore opportunities". This isn't about family for one minute, but the attorney may have convinced Jon, who doesn't seem to be able to stick to one stand or story, or even girlfriend, for long. (but I sort of suspect that Hailey is supporting this (as she supports him in everything) hoping for HER slice of the pie, and her "win" over Kate and TLC and her own future "projects")
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:37 am
Sea, I'll second your input.
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 10:59 am
Sea, I agree with everything you said. You can say what you want about Kate, but she has been consistent with her behavior since the split in trying to stay positive and do what's best for the kids. She wanted her and John to work together with the kids no matter what. One week you see him doing that. Next you see him going against that and calling the police on Kate for a matter that he had taken into his own hands against what he and Kate had agreed upon. The next week you hear him saying he despises Kate, now he wants to play nice? Let's see what next week holds when he can't follow the direction of his lawyers any longer because he is tired of them abusing him and telling him what to do.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:21 am
Mind, the police were called because KATE was the one who went against the agreement. She even admitted on The View that she made that mistake.
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Msbullwnkl
Member
08-16-2005
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:42 am
TMZ is reporting that Jon has cleared out all but $1000 of the joint bank account, but the kid's bank account hasn't been touched: LINK TO TMZ Article
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:51 am
Since she is the one who pays all their bills, can this move be anything less than despicable? He couldn't even take HALF? Even that would be against court order but at least you could pretend to defend it. PS Radaronline is also reporting it: At the same time he was telling a national TV audience that he wanted to put the brakes on his divorce and establish a better relationship with his wife, Jon Gosselin was secretly emptying their bank account, RadarOnline.com has learned exclusively. Jon violated an arbitrator's rules and pulled hundreds of thousands of dollars out of his joint account with Kate, leaving her with only $1,000, a RadarOnline.com investigation uncovered.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 11:54 am
As much as I don't like Jon these days, I just can't believe that.. He wouldn't do that...would he??
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:18 pm
Now you wonder about his trips out of the country!! <snark> Again, they have lawyers, I wondered what motivated him to stop the divorce (or whatever) again, its all being played out in the media... ridiculous!
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 12:37 pm
He seems like a very selfish, stupid man. He knows the world is watching all his vindictive, boneheaded moves and yet he pulls a stunt like this. Don't think it will take long for his latest lawyers to quit out of frustration. UNLESS they are the ones giving him all this awful advice!
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 1:05 pm
OF COURSE his lawyers are advising him. That's why we retain them, isn't it? He would hardly do this against their advice. And for all anyone knows, maybe he got wind that she was going to pull all the money out. We just don't know what prompted him to do it. Seems like a pre-emptive move to me.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 1:10 pm
What I saw of his new lawyer on Larry King didn't impress me in the slightest. I would be wary of any advice he would offer. Seems like Jon is on the fast-track to self-destruct, and a decent lawyer would try to prevent that.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 1:15 pm
There are good lawyers and bad lawyers. Some give good advice, some take the low road. And clients do things against the advice of their attornies all the time. Jon is not somehow automatically exempt from such behavior; and given his prior impulsivity, it seems quite possible.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 1:18 pm
tmz.com (I know Harvey hates reporting on this!) Kate Gosselin is drawing the big gun -- we've learned she's hired legal pitbull Marty Singer to go after Jon Gosselin ... asking a judge to hold him in contempt of court for raiding their joint bank account to the tune of more than $200,000. We've learned there is an existing court order prohibiting Jon or Kate from withdrawing any money from the account without the consent of both parties. We've learned lawyers for Kate will go to Pennsylvania court tomorrow and argue that Jon has flagrantly violated that order, that he should be forced to return the money to the account and held in contempt. Ironically, Jon suggested on "Larry King" he wanted to save the marriage -- at the same time he emptied the account Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0T04rgSMt He does seem to have impulsive behavior - its sad - I know I keep saying it, but any comments I want to add, just end up there!!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, October 04, 2009 - 1:24 pm
oh and some days I wish I was more "impulsive" but my impulsive behavior lies in the thinking "I should get a tattoo" I keep thinking on it tho - and so that's why I havent done it!! roflol! I mean, that's as bad as I can imagine being - I just dont understand the logic in not knowing your actions affect others, esp when YOUR children are involved (and I'm thinking of BOTH of their actions) so as we ponder on the children's fate - and I cant help but think of the Dionne Quints - and even the work
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