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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 8:49 am
LOL, i was talking about Jon and Kate being in repeats. i was saying the timing of their interview seemed to be odd since jon and kate are in repeats.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 8:52 am
I see, Tex...LOL I just didn't want anybody to think it was an old interview.
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Erniesgirl
Member
06-26-2006
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 12:53 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090731/ap_en_tv/us_tv_jon___kate 'Jon & Kate' to continue, ditch interview couch PASADENA, Calif. – Jon and Kate Gosselin (GAHS'-lihn) are over, but "Jon & Kate Plus 8" continues. TLC president Eileen O'Neill says the popular reality show, which has been on hiatus since the Gosselins announced their split in June, returns Monday with new episodes that document the Gosselins "separately parenting" their eight children. O'Neill says the iconic sofa from which the couple addressed the camera is gone and replaced by "separate interview chairs." TLC will "continue to capture this family's journey in a respective and sensitive way," she says. O'Neill made her comments at a meeting of the Television Critics Association.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 4:24 pm
Two things I would like to say that may not be so popular. I whole hardily agree with the video. I think a good chunk of the money should be put in a trust fund for the kids after all it is their show, that's why I started watching, to see the kids, not to watch Jon and Kate talk about their problems, and TLC is exploiting them with contracts and large amounts of money, that would be tempting for anyone. And Second, if Kate is having an affair with her body guard, I personally think it is disgusting just for the fact that he is a MARRIED MAN. That is going low breaking up another family, she knows first hand what a broken marriage is and Kate that is so very very wrong.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 7:19 pm
So the aunt and uncle are concerned about the children and the family drama playing out in the public so they go public to criticize the parents and to get politicians involved to take over the lives of the family? Gee, that's so healthy. Is there one speck of evidence that the children are being hurt in the way that these people claim? Are they being damaged enough to warrant the state stepping in has de facto parents, as these people are advocating? I have watched the show and I see happy, healthy kids who have a good life. They seem to enjoy interacting with the cameramen and sound people. All indications are that they only film a few hours a day and the kids are mostly doing what they want even during the filming, so it's not like they are being locked in a room and let out only to perform. I'm not saying that it's a "normal" childhood but what is normal, anyway? I work with kids who are stressed from being overscheduled, from being dragged from one place to another, who have no time to "be kids". No one would consider having a "politician" step in to help these children because the parents are doing what they think is best for the child. As long as there is no evidence of emotional or physical abuse, I see no reason for these people to continue a public campaign to have the state intervene and I question their motivation for doing so.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 7:25 pm
Oh, I think the way their whole lives are on display is totally damaging. And will be so for years and years to come. Their lives will NEVER be normal. The damage will likely never be able to be measured but it is totally there. Can you imagine having the world not only see, but discuss in great detail (and EVERYWHERE to boot) your mom and your dad and how rotten they are? How your mom is a nag and a shrew. How your dad is a loser that cannot hold a job. That is totally damaging. And it is abuse in my book. That cannot be healthy at all for a child's psyche.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 8:11 pm
How is that different from many children whose parents are celebrities?
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 8:20 pm
Onlyhuman, I totally agree with your comments. The kids have grown up in an environment with these people in their house. J&K did discuss once during a couch session how they filmed a couple of days a week (I think this was maybe a year ago, not long ago anyways). Caroline and John Kennedy, Lisa Marie Presley, and others seemed to grow up just fine despite a lifetime of being under the microscope and followed by the paps. All of them have heard horror stories about their famous parents, yet they endured. The Gosselins will as well, as long as at least one of the parents is there to provide the nurturing and security they need. With all the hub-bub going on in this family, I think that either TLC, or the Gosselin parent(s) will say enough is enough, maybe as soon as this season is done. And as always, I'm sure just about everyone here will tune in on Monday when the new season starts. If you watch, you are supporting continuance of this show. If you really really feel that strongly that they should pull the plug right now, then don't watch, don't support it. But I will continue to watch until I either get bored with it, or it becomes more and more about the adults, or if the kids stop being adorable.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 9:14 pm
There are a lot of parents doing a lot worse to their kids (think of all the stage parents, or parents pushing their kids in athletics, or parents raising kids in strict religous cult like environments). I think asking the govt to step in is over the top. Now half of the money should go into a trust for the kids, but the parents do need money to live on and run a household, so all of the money can't go into a trust. these kids are growing up and it's time to start respecting their privacy. My child, age 7, would be mortified if she were shown on TV having a tantrum. That would be so embarassing to her! Also some of the potty training issues with the little ones seemed a bit too private to air on TV. So I hope they do start to respect those boundaries. If the show returns focus to the kids, they might get some old viewers back. If it remains focused on the marital woes and divorce, they might gain some new viewers, but will lose a lot of the old ones.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 9:49 pm
I think there are tradeoffs.. the Obama girls are in the spotlight at times and scrutinized, or dolls named after them but they also get great perks, like concerts at the white house, great trips, and learning experiences.. granted some of their experiences are the richest ever, but they also have to live with Secret Service and a not so normal life. The Gosselins have cameras some days but they go to school and seem to have a heck of a good time quite often. Saw a pic of Kate with Mady and Cara going to a Jonas Bros concert.. bet Mady and Cara thought that was a very good thing and fun to go with mom at this age. Jodi talking about bathroon scenes.. I can't remember any too recently. They used to shoot in bedrooms, but that has been stopped.. seems like they are adapting as the kids get older. They are all potty trained.. that horse is long out of the barn, but not a reason to cancel now. Will be very interesting to see what the numbers are when the new season starts up. ==== The Jon situation seems stickier and stickier.. he seems to be juggling Hailey and Kate 2 with each fighting to be "the one". As Star Mag pointed out Michael Lohan is a horrible role model and Jon seems quite into him at present, attending various functions in the Hamptons (though at least one banned Jon and Kate 2 as not right for their function). Seems like he's morphing into one of those pseudo celebs who may do little or nothing but may be paid to just attend events. Sort of sad for a 20 something single guy but really sad for a 30 something father of 8. Apparently he travelled with Kate 2 to NY, was with her in the Hamptons without telling Hailey, who was waiting for him at a restaurant,even ordering for them both. And then went to meet up with Kate 1 and the kids for filming. But after filming back at home he said he couldn't wait to get back to the Hamptons. I think the kids will be more traumatized by what they will read about daddy than about being filmed giggling and camping in a tent. ====== Ironic that Jodi and husband NOW bash TLC for ruining everthing.. just a couple of years ago they were wanting to be in the TLC family themselves. But now they get their exposure trying to get someone to interfere with their estranged relatives and family. I sure don't have a problem with someone making sure that there ARE trusts set up for each Gosselin child..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 9:49 pm
That is 8 trusts.. Jon's on his own.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, July 31, 2009 - 9:58 pm
LOL Seamonkey. It would be interesting to see how much of the money is going into funds for those kids because both Kate and Jon seem to really like fancy, expensive clothes, items, hair cuts, etc. It appears they are blowing through a lot of money right now. And yes, one has to wonder if aunt and uncle were on the TLC payroll if they'd be singing a different tune.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 4:56 am
The money in trust issue was discussed recently in the Octomom thread. In CA only 15% has to go into the kids' trusts! PA may have the same or a different law -
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 9:00 am
The difference is that these kids are put out there by their OWN parents. Kids of celebs are generally hounded by the media. So the media is chasing them, whereas the Goss kids are put out there by the parents. Plus the Goss kids are the only ones with weekly shows (plus multiple daily reruns) so the public sees a really large percentage of their lives. Also I don't think I can name a single person (with the possible exception of Michael Jackson) who has been on the cover of more magazines (legit and rags) than the Gosselin family over the course of the last 6-9 months. That is a long time. There is just no comparison. Jon and Kate are allowing it and the kids will feel the "repercussions" for years to come. I applaud Jodi and Kevin for trying to stop the maddness. Don't think it'll do a speck of good, but at least they are trying. Anyone know where any grandparents or any other uncles/aunts are??
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 9:05 am
Jon has said his mother (and his father before he died) are very involved in their lives; they just choose not to be on tv. Kate's parents are not involved.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 9:20 am
I'm surprised that the media does not hound the g'parents.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 9:35 am
Being put in the public eye, whether by circumstance or voluntarily by a parent wouldn't change the outcome as far as I'm concerned. Those kids have had more opportunities and experiences than I have had in my 52 years. They will be able to attend college without having to take out student loans, which I had the pleasure of spending 10 long years paying back. There are photos and videos galore for them to enjoy when they are older, which is more than many people have. There are less than 100 pictures with me in them in my family albums, and those span from birth through high school. I would LOVE to know what I sounded like, and looked like growing up. The value of that can not be overlooked. We didn't have much money growing up, and my mother happened to take more pictures of her dogs and horses than she did of us. And people wouldn't understand the importance unless they were in a situation like me and not have that opportunity. Not knowing any different life, these kids have as much chance of growing up extremely well adjusted as they do of turning into angry nutjobs (or whatever negative fate would await them for being subjected to this show...). It's too bad that every mention of them makes the assumption that their lives are being destroyed. That's a pretty negative view, and is based on what? We can not predict the future. Who here would appreciate someone else telling them what they should do with their own children? Who here knows what their financial situation really is, including whether they've set up trust funds or what the percentage of the income is that is devoted to them? Who here knows the full truth about the Jodi and Kevin relationship with Kate and Jon or the motives behind their actions? We will NEVER know these things, and we don't need to. Our values do not matter one bit to either TLC or to Kate and Jon. Parents must be allowed to make the decisions that they feel are in the best interest of their children. Because you do not agree with their decision, it does not make them evil or bad parents. We do not know the truth here and we never will.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 10:28 am
That interview with the aunt and uncle....Grrrr! What a load of ******. This isn't about love...it's about control.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 11:47 am
Agree, Hukd.. it is a very slippery slope and if the Gosselin children were to be considered too traumatized to be under the control of the government.. well a GIANT percentage of parents had better beware.. at least at present the norm is to keep kids with parents (or moms) in even some pretty marginal circumstances. There are gazillions of children who could be said to have a better chance with another situation but so far we don't barge in as a society and make those choices. Some child advocates would say, for instance, that posting pictures of your children on the internet along with other info that could make them traceable, is just offering them up to predators (I don't think that, but know I'd be awfully careful about such posting if I had little ones around) but no one considers anyone a bad parent and that children posted here or elsewhere to be in need of government intervention. Where do you draw a line? How much government scrutiny should be diverted to these kids when so many others are in truly desperate situations? Children with completely psychotic parents.. think of the recent sickening situation in I think it was Texas.. that child really needed rescuing. Keldogg.. yep.. control. Foisting of opinions on others and their lives. Of course we have opinions but luckily the world doesn't have to run by them for the most part (well unless you aren't straight and want to get married in California or some other states where hatred and opinion are being voted upon). ====== As for previews.. Kate's sounds like she is trying to cope with the new situation by growing into it. The only clip I've seen of Jon, he still is passive aggressive in mentioning, talking to Kate (who isn't there) as he seems to be overseeing installation of a new kitchen and looks at the camera to assure Kate that the floor is being protected, with his edgy voice that tells us that he KNOWS Kate wouldn't trust him to protect the flooring. So I guess we'll still get the Jon eye rolling shots at Kate. (and I'm sure she'll take her shots too, we'll see) (And pretty sure TLC will try to get those "shots" and encourage them, unfortunately.) I see Tori Spellings oh-so-not-supportive mom is calling her out in public for making the kids into reality show "props". Hmm
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 1:39 pm
I don't love Kate nor do I hate Jon. I would never choose to buy a book from either of them, nor would I pay to hear them speak or even go up to them to talk to them should I ever see them in person. At the same time, I have an opinion on the show that I feel is valid. I am no expert, nor am I willing to make a prediction on the futures of these children, but I have yet to see a single indication that these children are being adversely affected by this show. Are these kids leading the idealized childhood life? No. Are any kids actually leading that life? Not that I know of. During the summer, I offer a program that consists of reading and math in the morning, science and art in the afternoon. The past 2 weeks, three siblings attending the program were taken out early to attend violin lessons, to perform in a violin recital, to meet with a spanish tutor, or to attend some other program. It was always a fight to get them to leave, and they begged every day to be allowed to stay for the entire camp. Their parents, both doctors, would send them with lunch they picked up at the convenience store...lunchables, frozen bagel dogs, chips, candy. The kids would beg me for the grapes and cherries in my lunch. On Thursday morning, one of the girls walked in crying because she was leaving at 2 pm to go attend a workshop on study skills---she's going in to 2nd grade! Is this the life I would choose for these 3 kids? No. Would anyone dare suggest that some "politician" step in to "rescue" these kids? I don't think so. It doesn't take "some really weird kind of Kate love" to take a position that the Gosselin children are not being abused and to feel that the brother and sister-in-law have no place asking for government intervention. It just takes common sense.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 1:58 pm
I am disappointed in Kate that she has decided to move so far away from the kids. I'm disappointed in Jon for that too, but I've come to expect such from Jon. I still think of the two, Kate has shown lately to be a WAY better parent to the kids than what Jon has shown lately. Re: Jodi and Kevin. I watched the clip. I think they want more regulation from the govt. over how instrusive cameras are allowed to be in kids' lives, and that the money made be put into a trust for the kids, and how much time reality kids can be filmed. And I am not being very articulate at all, sorry. The thing for me with Jodi and Kevin is that, for me, they lose credibility going on tv and talking about it. I'm sure that they didn't go on tv both times on the early show(s) for free. But maybe they did. Of course, I don't know.
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Erniesgirl
Member
06-26-2006
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 6:07 pm
Kate isn't moving to Maryland after all. http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2009/07/kate-gosselin-backs-out-maryland-move Kate Gosselin has changed her mind about moving to Maryland and buying a condo, RadarOnline.com has learned. The Jon & Kate Plus 8 star had looked at a condo in Rockville, part of wealthy Montgomery County. And while several sources confirmed she was going to buy a place in a new building she simply changed her mind at the last minute, RadarOnline.com has confirmed. The condo was very close to the office of her bodyguard Steve Neild. Both Kate and soon-to-be-ex-husband Jon are finding new places to live, as one will stay with the kids in the Pennsylvania house while the other retreats to a neutral corner! Jon is living in a luxury condo in New York. Now it's back to start for Kate, who needs a place so she never, ever has to bump into Jon!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Saturday, August 01, 2009 - 7:27 pm
yay! I hope her new place will be closer to the kids than Maryland. I can't imagine not being close enough to my kids to see their sports events and school functions and be there in case of emergency...even if I was divorced and it wasn't my turn with them.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:10 am
Downside of sharing the house on off weeks.. just saw a picture of Jon mockingly wearing one of Kate's sunhats.. if I were her, I'd put locks on all of her closet doors and drawers so the ninth "child" wouldn't have access to her stuff.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 02, 2009 - 10:30 am
Is Jon at the house now?
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