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Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Was a disgusting display of parenting tonight.

Any adult (Jon/Kate) that thought they should publicly do that tonight will never be a good parent in my opinion. They took popshots at their children's parents tonight, I don't get how anyone can defend that even if you are a die hard fan of one of them. That is like telling me that you find it OK when you drop your child off at school to jump out and run down to the lunch lady and tell her that your husband was a bum last night and didn't listen to you again, don't forget to stop and sign up for the monthly PTA column in your newsletter to explain to them all as well.

I thought they both acted the part big time tonight and obviously it worked for them by reading through the thread. I thought he purposefully played the tough guy to get rid of his people walk all over him image. I thought she played up the innocent victim and how this was all him to get rid of her <77> image.

Just watching tonight how they acted in front of delivery men and trying to pull them into their mess with all their children running around within earshot makes them both hypocrites when they say they continue to put their children first.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Holly and Lilfair - I agree that Jon has waited too long to come into his manhood - BUT he is still entitled to it!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
What's up w/ the push up bra, Kate?

The "A" type personailty will not go to counseling. They think they are right and that's that.

I used to be Team Jon, sajo, but no longer. His choice of clothes, diamond eaarings, top of the line motorcycle made me jump off his team.

He looks like he is turning a complete 180 degrees and not look like a frat boy any longer. Kate always made him dress in collared sport shirts. Now, you Kate supporters....I'm not saying that is bad.....I'm just saying he is doing and being the exact opposite of what she wanted him to be.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Wow, y'all are a tough crowd. I'm neither a Jon nor Kate fan, but I don't think Kate's interviews are "acting", either. I come from a long line of hillbillies, and was raised not to show weakness of any kind, especially emotionally, and if there was strife in the family it was never spoken of. All that to say I'm a lot like Kate (in her interviews) - put out a strong vibe that says yes I'm hurting but I'll get through this. And I speak very slowly the more emotional I get - again, trying to keep my emotions in check. What can I say? I'm getting better at letting my DH see me cry (I still hate it, though) and my children have rarely seen me cry. I'm the "rock" in the family and it kinda freaks them out if I start to lose it.
My older DD watched a little of this with me tonight, and started out slamming Kate. Until Jon said "I'm only 32" and "I'm excited". Then she agreed with me that he came off as a real dick.
jmho, but it seems like Jon is going through some kind of mid-life crisis.
eta-the show needs to end. Now. It really isn't fun for me anymore.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
url direct link isn't working for me. I don't know why it keeps adding the part before the http. Copy/paste without the beginning part to read article

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20286839,00.html

"Over the course of this weekend, Jon's activities have left me no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect myself and our children," Kate said in a statement Monday night. "While there are reasons why it was appropriate and necessary for me to initiate this proceeding, I do not wish to discuss those reasons at this time, in the hope that all issues will be resolved amicably between Jon and myself. As always, my first priority remains our children."

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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Just finished watching and they certainly seemed to paint the Jon is having a midlife crisis and Kate tried so hard to mend things but couldn't. Hmmm.... not sure I buy that one.

I do feel bad for Kate, and I've never been team Kate. I don't think she saw this coming at all. I think she thought she had Jon under complete control and although he'd gripe, he'd be there for her. I think by the time he'd had enough, he was just done and there wasn't any scolding or whip cracking she could do to get him back in line. I'm sure she's flabbergasted.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Sad as it is, I am so disgusted that they will continue this show. Go ahead Jon, go ahead Kate, keep your kids in the limelight. Hope you enjoy the cash you are making.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I don't get all the "Kate Hate", either. Never have.

I came from a VERY large family. I would bet that many people here would have called my mother controlling, overbearing and obsessive. However, I thank her every day for the upbringing I had. Sure, there were times I thought she was "mean", I know I even wrote it in my diary. However, as an adult, I can look back and see what a great job she did.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Here's Jon's quote from People (link above):

Jon released a statement of his own, claiming his wife was the first to make a legal move. "This afternoon, Kate filed for divorce. Our kids are still my number one priority. I love them and want to make sure they stay happy, healthy and safe. My job is being the best, most supportive and loving father that I can be to my kids, and not being married to Kate doesn’t change that."

"This will be a difficult transition for all of us," Jon's statement continued, "but Kate and I will work out a schedule that enables our kids to have plenty of quality time with both of us at home in Pennsylvania. In terms of my marriage, it’s no secret that the past six months or so have been very difficult for Kate and me. We are no different than other couples and parents who are facing a crossroads in their marriage. I am of course deeply saddened that we are divorcing."

So, I wonder what Jon's activites were "over the course of his weekend" that made her file today of all days, after just announcing a separation on TV. I thought he was with the kids for father's day weekend, and she was off somewhere for 4 days?! What did he do to po her now?

Sajo
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06-18-2007

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sajo a private message Print Post    
If you keep kicking a dog down, he will bite back at some point,becauce he just can`t take it anymore.
Kate is all for herself. The money the fame,she feeds on it and loves all the attenion. And now it`s poor me.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
At what point does Jon become responsible for his own behavior and his own choices?

If, by chance, there is truth to the story that Jon was devastated by Kate's demand for a divorce but signed a contract saying that he could date whomever he chose as long as the show went on, it doesn't say much about his character.

Why would he sign such a contract? Why would he agree to continue a show he supposedly hates and date women in secret? If he thinks the show is so horrible, why would he agree to allow his children to continue filming? What was his motive at all for agreeing to some secret separation in which he would pose as a happily married man while secretly dating young women? Was he doing it for the money?

And now, he is continuing with the show (which he supposedly hates) and moving to NYC away from his children, where he will live in a swanky apartment paid for by the profits of the TV show he supposedly no longer wants to do. Is this Kate's doing? Did she force him to sign a contract in which he agrees to move away from his children and pretend to be a bachelor living it up in the big city?

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
interesting article Huk. What in the world could Kate have meant about needing to file for divorce to protect herself and her children?? Seems a rather harsh and loaded statement.

All I can guess at is that she is worried Jon will try for custody after saying he had no clue where she was for four days. Maybe? Sigh who knows, but now this is getting even sadder and uglier.

But for those wondering why Kate isn't winning Miss Popularity here, I think these quotes are a good example. True or not Kate comes across as the rough, aggressive one, not IMHO Jon. And while I certainly don't believe all I read, over and over folks say what a diva she is, but I've never read similar things anywhere about Jon. And her constant sniping at him is what has really annoyed me.

ETA Onlyhuman, so far the move to NY is speculation isn't it? I for one hope it's just gossip, but if and when he signs a lease I'll buy it, and lose a bit of respect for him. As for a contract, I've only seen fans speculate. Is there any proof this exists???

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Here is a list of grounds for filing for divorce in Pennsylvania. We can easily eliminate many of them:

http://www.divorcenet.com/states/pennsylvania/pennsylvania_grounds_for_divorce

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Seems that way, Sajo. I think she brought it all down on herself. She certainly seems to love the attention more than anything, to the detriment of her marriage and family. And I think that kid, Mady, just takes after her mother in that respect. It has to be all about them, all the time. I only hope all those millions will be worth it in the long run.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Geez, it certainly seems like some of you are enjoying this. Kates getting what she deserves and all that. Seems rather bizarre to me...and a bit heartless. I'd better stay out of this thread.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
<At what point does Jon become responsible for his own behavior and his own choices?

Looks like it's happening now.

Sajo
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06-18-2007

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sajo a private message Print Post    
Holly...I was thinking the same thing about Mady, when I watch the show tonight. Yup with Kate it is all about me me me and money money money. :-)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
The tone of Kate's statement says a lot. She's always reminding us it's for the kids, implying that Jon is not for the kids. Her statement makes it sound like Jon did something horrible and she needs to protect the kids from him. I really hope they just go for joint custody and do not get into any kind of custody battle or this could really get ugly.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Good points, Onlyhuman. While there may be contract language not allowing Jon to leave the show and/or pull his kids out if he really didn't want to continue, I would think a good lawyer would at least be able to stop filming while the case was heard.
Jon says he doesn't like the attention yet is looking for an apartment in Trump Tower? He goes wherever it is he goes in a fancy sportscar that draws attention. I wouldn't want to be married to either one of them, but at least with Kate I'd know what I was getting. Whereas Jon is just sending me conflicting signals, and would drive me nuts trying to figure out how to help him be happy.
When he was talking about getting a job, did I hear right and he also said "but who'd hire me?" and then chuckled?
i can't believe i've been sucked into this discussion - i swore i'd try to stay out, to just lurk.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Cinnamon,I'm with you.Where do you want to go? I'll drive...

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I know, Bluejaxrock. I got sucked in too, but I'm out now. Y'all have a great evening!

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Blue, I'm not on one side or the other. It takes two to fall in love and most often two to fall out, for whatever reason.

I'm speaking from personal experience here, and I hesitate to do this, but it perfectly parallels what is happening in this situation. My parents married at 19 years old and had my brother at 21 and me at 22. My father completed college while a father of two and always resented my brother and I. He was jealous that we could play for hours when little, ( he often joined in with us and neigborhood kids playing all kinds of games outside and boardgames indoors). We had a horse stable and raised dogs as well. Lots of activites and play. When college came, he was jealous we had fraternities and sororities, when he had two children at our ages and couldn't party and go to school at the same time. He wasn't timid in telling us of his resentment of us and how he was "robbed" of time to kick up his heels. To his dying day at 80, he considered his life unfulfilled because of having two children so young. Some men will never be happy, because they lack the ability to be happy, and find it easier to blame others for their lives and short comings versus doing something constructive to fix the problem. We make our choices and have to live with the consequences. It's just too bad, that often there are so many little victims while that person deals with the consequences of his actions. My father was married 3 times and never "found" happiness, what he didn't get is you don't "find" happiness, you work at it, and work at it, until you achieve happiness.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I bet there is a buttload of security at Trump Towers. Moreso than at any other apartment complex, whether it is in a major city or out in a cornfield.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Jon has to keep doing the show to keep up the lifestyle to which he's become accustomed.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
When I mentioned the Trump Towers apartment, I meant that it is a high profile place. If I wanted to get out of the public eye, I personally would choose someplace like southern WV (my serenity place - no cell phones, some cable, hard to get to, slow life).
really, i'm leaving now. it's late and i'm afraid i'll be misunderstood. night, all