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Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
ITA Texannie. Its a bit frustrating to repeatedly read about Kate being the bully when really it's Jon who has just as big or bigger control issues. Kate is just a feelings on your sleeve type while Jon is worse, passive aggressive and immature. I don't see him giving back the money, didn't use it for his family... bought himself a useless little sports car and then moans about how unfair his life is. Waits for his wife to leave town then hits the bars. Agrees to Kate's face about their children's diet and then takes them for drive-thru when she isn't looking. And when it gets rough, he sits and pouts and emotionally checks out. Like Tex said... "Man up".

I just wish one of them would be responsible enough to pull the plug on this, circle the wagons and resolve it privately because at the end of the day... who the heck cares about Jon and Kate? About who is right or wrong? It's the kids who matter and this should not be public.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
when has kate said she won't leave the kids with a babysitter alone?
jon quit his job long before she started traveling. he even talked about how great it was that he was able to work at home.
i don't agree with everything kate does/says by any stretch of the imagination, but at least she is DOING something. she isn't sitting around whining 'poor me'. if he doesn't like his situation change it.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Many times since the family estrangement stuff happened with her SIL. I'm sorry I don't have a photographic memory to point out the exact eps.

eta: Kate sure was crying "poor me" this last ep. I was sick of her complaining about having to be "alone".

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
naja, is that in response to my question? not expecting a photgraphic memory, i just truly don't recall hearing either one of them say anything like that.
she has commented that she has the helper and has left the kids with her during the day while she has done things. i know when she went shopping recently the kids were with the helper alone.

Llwynn
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Llwynn a private message Print Post    
I really like Kate. I don't think she always comes across well, but I admire the way she mothers and think she genuinely believes she is doing what is best for her children. I love how everyone feels so sorry for poor little bullied Jon because I am sure he had no idea what Kate's personality was like BEFORE he married her. She must have turned into a hateful awful bully later. He hated it so much that he married her and chose to have eight children with her. Kate is such a bully.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I think running out to the store is a bit different than leaving the kids with the sitter all day. We can point out technicalities in everything anybody posts.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I hope the children have trusts set up for what should be their separate earnings from the show. I understand it costs a lot to raise 8 kids, but it's the parents responsibility to provide. The kids' earnings (but for a small living portion) should be put away for them to access when they have reached their majorities.

I wouldn't trust either of their parents to set aside funds belonging to the children.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Someone above said Jon didn't like the decisions Kate made for him.....

There are so many things wrong with that, IMO. First of all, he's an adult, Kate can only have control over him if he allows it. Man up. Kate has.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Kate was on a book tour. She had certain obligations that she had to uphold with respect to the media. She got slammed by the pictures of Jon and his young lady when she already had these things scheduled. And then Jon bailed on her on some of them, and she was left to deal with the mess of his rebellious teen behavior.

Then the brother and the SIL decide to add fuel to the fire. Are they so addicted to "the lure of the camera" that they can't keep their mouths shut either?

Funny thing....if being on TV is as damaging for relationships as everyone says, Kate may have saved her brother and SIL from a horrible fate by refusing to allow them to jump on the gravy train, if, in fact, that's what she did.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Escapee, do you watch? Kate makes Jon suffer if things aren't her way. He caught hell just for putting the wrong color scrunchie in girl's the hair.

AH, I think I remember one specific times she said it about always being there.

The day she said she will NEVER have a nanny, only helpers. That was very recent and she was very clear.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I've seen Kate on TV, in her interview saying that "one of us is always home with the kids" type of stuff, explaining how it's okay for her to be on the road because Jon is home.

Jon has control issues? I don't see that at all. He probably has lack of control issues. LOL. Kate doesn't let him control anything. Which is probably why he does the passive aggressive drive through food manueuvers. Jon wouldn't win any maturity awards, but I'd rather live with him any day over someone like Kate just who snips and picks and demands that everything has to be done her way.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Naja, I am truly not trying to point out techincalities.
I am just going to stop posting. I can't seem to say anything without being misinterpreted anymore.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I don't see the big deal with the sports car. My husband and I have an SUV for the girls and he has 2 sports cars and I have 1. So silly to knock him down over a sports car.

Kate sure was throwing herself a pity party last night I for one do NOT feel sorry for her at all. If she didn't treat her husband like he was a piece of crap then she wouldn't get the backlash she's getting.

I do find the kids adorable as ever!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Kate has had Jon by the you-know-whats for so long, I'm not sure she'll give them back long enough for him TO man up.

I will give Kate credit for saying that both of them have changed into 2 different people.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Texannie, I didn't mean to say anything cross, either. Just keep posting. It's all interesting. In my own mind as I type, I'm just speaking in a fun conversational tone. I do forget that just because it sounds ok in my mind, it may come across harsher in type. I think we are all guilty of that sometimes.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
GAL, on one of the other boards I frequent, I saw a print interview with J&K and they said that money had been already set aside for the children's college funds from the shows they'd done.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Yeah, and do you take those sports cars to bars and show them off for twenty-somethings in the early hours of the morning. DO you drive them to those young ladies' houses where you spend the night?

I'm assuming not...but then, maybe you and your husband find nothing wrong in that.

And, what was Kate supposed to do? Throw a fit that her husband is having an affair? Act like she's glad he's gone? Throw a party? How else is she supposed to react to the demise of her marriage?

She is mourning the death of her marriage. Don't get me wrong, she contributed to it and I don't think that they belong together anymore, but she is entitled to feel bad about it. She still manage to get through the day. In my family, that birthday party would have ended in a huge tantrum and storming off. In fact, that's exactly how my niece's 1st birthday ended so I would say that Kate handled the awkward situation as well as she possibly could.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I think the issue with Jon having a sports car, is the hypocracy. He doesn't want the media around and apparently doesn't want to do the show anymore. He has also said "it's all for the kids." So he's willing to reap the benefits, and that smacks of being a hypocrit to me.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Hey, at least Kate showed emotion! Jon acted bored, and IMO, he looked hungover or strung out. I've read that other places, so I'm not alone in my thinking.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Was there an episode about the sports car? Who bought it?

I'm guessing the new cars came along with the new house. No old beat up trans AM or rusty old VW Bug allowed to enter that fancy garage!

And yes, they both behaved fairly well at the birthday party. I think they are both trying to do the best by those kids and that is a good thing to see.

I didn't think Jon looked hungover, just tired and uninterested in the cameras.

Snoopsmom
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02-19-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snoopsmom a private message Print Post    
I watched this show early on, then stopped. Tuned in again due to all the recent stories and did watch quite a bit of the weekend marathon and last night's show.
Kate got all my sympathy last night. It was so obvious she is hurt, angry, tired and just trying to get through a horrible time.
Jon came across as a spoiled brat and I agree with others - he did appear to be under the influence of something.
As far as Jon's unhappiness and need for something outside of the family and tv cameras couldn't he have found a respectable hobby? Maybe join a golf league with other married men his age. Cruising in a sports car with co-eds and young single women is in no way acceptable for a married father of 8.
As much as people complain about Kate seeking fame, fortune and celebrity from everything I've seen and read her only appearances have been for the show or her book. I don't buy the bodyguard rumors for a minute and other than that we haven't seen paparazzi footage of Kate hitting the town, on the red carpet, or tooling around like a carefree single young girl
Jon gets no sympathy from me. He's a big boy and if he doesn't like what his life is, that's his issue.
Bottom line, the kids come first. If Jon and Kate split up, they will adjust as many kids from divorced homes eventually do.
Maybe they can rename the show Kate Plus Eight Because John's On A Date.

PS- Texannie, please don't stop posting. I haven't been posting in this thread, but have enjoyed reading your posts (and agreed with them).

Christiii
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07-07-2005

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Christiii a private message Print Post    
Is it that great of a car?? what was it? I just thought he wanted something smaller to drive when he was just running around, rather than a 10 seater van or something. I may not know a ton about cars, but as a girl I wouldnt turn my head for a little white car like that.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I asked this question about three pages ago and I think my question got lost in all the posts. Jon said he quit working two years ago, but last night his kids said something about him not being home much anymore and he was out traveling... so where is he going?

Mush
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09-09-2002

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mush a private message Print Post    
Lexie, my impression was that he said that to cover for their separation. He has moved out of the house, but is telling the kids that it's "for work." I have a friend whose kids were little when she and her husband separated and that's what they did.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
The car is a special edition (1500 produced) Nissan, with a BASE price of over $38,000. It's not just some off the lot little car.


http://www.rsportscars.com/nissan/2007-nissan-nismo-350z/