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Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
I'll eat Subway, but really like Quizno's sammies a lot more.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think their source of "drama" is Bob.. that blowup has been shown on show after show as Bob and Jillian (and sometimes Michelle, Ali, etc.,) and they have run that blow up into the ground this season. I mean, I GET, that he was frustrated with Joelle, but I wish they'd acknowledge that when you are carrying that much weight you also probably don't have the most stable KNEES, or you don't trust your body to let go and run and that it can be scary. I know this program requires a very steep jump in activity so they can produce the dramatic results, but I wonder, sometimes, at the level of shouting, swearing, etc., that they exhibit, which HAS resulted in falls or injuries. Just saying..

I'm sure there was much more going on that frustrated Bob so much, but .. control, man! But I think he was encouraged by the producers in order to have drama.

As for all of them wanting Joelle to go, well I'm sure most of them think "pretty much anyone but me" but if they are really playing the game of "who needs this more", I'd say if anyone from Black team, especially, or Brown, drops below, they should take the opportunity and send them home, knowing they now have "all the tools" to work out at home.

Also, anyone going home not on Brown or Black right now dooms the person at home as well. Brown or Black.. The Black team, young really tall guys.. that is tough competition indeed.

I prefer Togo's to Subway.

Well, I HAVE a Kindle and the Bodybugg looks cool but pretty expensive and I have to wonder if I'd sit and enter all the foods into the computer program and such.

Reader, I can just imagine I'd be bowled off the course, not swept!

I think the week two thing.. the first week they have a ton of water loss if they modify their diets to have lots less sodium and they work out like crazy and lose a large amount, so maybe their bodies are fighting back a bit or they are drinking more water or even making a bad choice now and then. It does seem to be a common occurrence. This time all but two teams suffered the loss of a member as well.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Big loses the first week because they drink alot of water before the original weigh-in & it may be more than 7 days till the first weigh-in.

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
What is a Kindle?

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Electronic book reader Yoda. There are really only two out there: Sony and the Amazon Kindle and any review I have read puts the Kindle way ahead. Here's the link if you are interested in more info: Amazon Kindle

Yoda
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08-11-2005

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yoda a private message Print Post    
Thanks Rissa

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I think the reason for the recap is for future rebroadcasts. I remember seeing BL on some cable network and it was presented in one hour chunks

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
I suppose I am the only one who wanted Daniel gone this week and this is why. Joelle had (editting?) seemed like everyone's target because it was perceived she was not working as hard as the others.

If 19 year old Daniel had beat 63 year old Jerry up the hill, Daniel would not have had the penalty and Jerry and Joelle would have been up with Joelle being voted out.

Daniel is in bad shape but so is Jerry. Still the old man beat him. The old man earned the right to stay and got screwed in my opinion.

Then to see David ordering what he did... well I just give up. The argument was Daniel has never been thin and will lose but regain without the ranch. I am very sorry to say in my opinion, Daniel will regain with or without the ranch.

Oh and once again, thanks for the wonderful recap Seamonkey.


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 5:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Gidget, I had many of the same feelings as you did about Daniel vs Jerry, but I did get that they really wanted Daniel to stay longer because they feared he would die before getting what Jerry had in life, family, etc.

I'd guess that David would enable Daniel if he went home.

But I do agree that it was a sad choice and that Jerry was more "deserving" but Daniel was more "needy" and I guess Needy won out.. OR.. maybe they also felt that Daniel was much more likely to fail eventually and Jerry would be bigger competition for them? Hard to say. Daniel obviously has much more to lose and should lose a larger % so if he really got into it he could win.

I'm even more frustrated with Kara Tara.. her team was quite competitive the first week for immunity and then she won the second week, yet she could only lose a pound? But all the negative comments were directed to Joelle, not Kara.

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
Why would Joelle admit to "faking it"? That was not smart. If Carla saw that, I'm sure that is what pushed her buttons.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
I use Fitday.com, and it's not all that hard. Once you have all your regular foods entered, it's pretty easy.

I looked up Body Bug, and it is pretty expensive. It comes with a six month membership to their site, which is where my problem comes in since the price of the thing is so high I should at least get 2 years (around the time when I will be over it, lol). I really do like the fact of showing what calories I am burning during the day. I'm pretty good at what's going in, just have a problem of knowing what I'm burning out. Someone told me Nike has one similar, just not as complexed. I should check that one out.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think Tara is a smart cookie and drank some water before this weigh in. She had immunity this week, so she was protecting herself for next week.

And Joelle got the negativity because she did a lot of complaining and not doing what Bob told her to. In contrast, Jerry, Dan and Tara all did every ounce of work. Dan even upped the treadmill higher than what Bob asked him to do.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Kar, I do think Tara may have water-loaded, but then that negates Mandi's mantra that "the scale never lies" in terms of the work put in.

Jerry, Dan and Tara worked with Jillian.

Joelle worked with Bob.

There's a difference.

And Mandi, who was shown dissing Joelle the most (in confessionals) ALSO is on Jillian's team. And even if they don't seem to be competing as teams this time, you can bet that there are still rivalries based on which trainer they have.

As I said before, I think the Joelle vs Bob thing is the best they can do for conflict and they are milking it for all it is worth.

I'm sure Joelle was negative but I also saw her being frustrated, which we've seen in contestants every season. I can remember Jillian berating last season's "older guy" until he fell off the treadmill, but now they are proud as punch at his progress.

I'm wondering if Joelle did not succeed and so they are editing her to look even worse to justify Bob's explosion?

Dan did up his speed but I thought he was training with Jillian. As least that is how I documented it and Wikipedia has Orange with Jillian as well.

Bob with: Ron, Mike, Felipe, Damien, Kristen, Helen and Joelle.

And Jillian has Dane, Blaine, Tara, Daniel and Mandi.(and had Jerry)

Wikipedia:

Jillian: White, Black, Green, Orange, Yellow teams.
Bob: Silver, Blue, Red, Pink, Brown, Purple teams

So, ironically, Bob CHOSE the silver team (Joelle and Carla), they didn't choose him.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Lardbrick.. Joelle used the "fake it til I make it" line but that could have meant a whole range of things.. I usually interpret that as something that is said to people to help them get over a fear of failure.

Ah.. if you google that phrase you'll get hits..

From Wikipedia.. has positive and negative connotations but it is pretty widely used.


quote:

success, it will generate real confidence[1]. The purpose is to avoid getting stuck in a self fulfilling prophecy related to one's fear of not being confident, e.g., by thinking, "I can't ask that girl out because she would sense my lack of confidence." The article How You Too Can Be an Optimist in Prevention points out, "In research at Wake Forest University, for example, scientists asked a group of 50 students to act like extroverts for 15 minutes in a group discussion, even if they didn’t feel like it. The more assertive and energetic the students acted, the happier they were"[2].

It is often recommended as a method of overcoming depression. In this case, the idea is to go through the routines of life as if one were enjoying them, despite the fact that initially it feels forced, and continue doing this until the happiness becomes real[3]. This is an example of a positive feedback loop.

It is a common device in rap music, where performers will often make records and music videos depicting them as successful, handling large amounts of cash and showing off obvious signs of luxury like expensive clothing and excessive jewelry, even when this record or video is their first release and made when they have not yet achieved the success they display.

The phrase is often associated with Alcoholics Anonymous. AA to Z; An Addictionary of the 12-Step Culture describes it as a "suggestion often made to NEWCOMERS who feel they can't get the program and will go back to old behavior. The suggestion implies that if the newcomer acts according to the steps and teachings of the program, then the program will begin to work and the anxiety will fall away"[4].

The technique is somewhat controversial in sales settings. Take Your Team to the Top claims, "You can’t 'fake it till you make it' because you can never be consciously aware of all the things that give you away as a fraud"[5].




Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I may have had the wrong trainer, but I only had a simple point; and that was everyone was frustrated with Joelle because she was complaining and holding back. Her reasons may or may not have been justified, but they were all working out. They felt better about Dan because he was doing more than the trainer asked.

That's all. :-)

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
Joelle was working just enough to get by and everybody noticed it, especially Bob. He finally had enough of her.

I think she was just plain faking the workouts and it showed on the scale.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Plus Joelle is a manipulator...her saying to Bob "I know you expect perfection" and her constant self talk.blah blah blah....it is all manipulative to try to put responsibility onto anyone but herself. I've known people like her before...they talk and talk and talk but seldom actually accomplish much. She lives in her mothers house, her mother supports her, totally irresponsible adult who has most likely had a life full of poor choices and has yet to realize she, and on one else, is responsible for the life she is leading.

On the positive side, I AM LOVING TARA! She was the first back down the hill to encourage Daniel and then she chose to give her phone call away, she seems like a genuinely nice lady and with a real competitive spirit.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
all that out of control cussing by Bob just says he is as unprofessional as Jillian.

Cussing has its place...and your work place, especially if you are a professional, is not the right place IMHO>

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
My simple point is that we only see it how they want to show it and while I completely BUY that most of them want Joelle to go, I don't buy the validity of reasons given. If the "scale never lies" then she isn't alone with her low weight loss, yet those other people are credited with working out, following the diets, etc. (even though we saw probably 40 minutes of unique film, not all of that showing actual training or what they ate or didn't eat and we saw the same clips of Joelle repeatedly.

But I'm not saying she is a model BL person.

Daniel got to stay over Jerry based on need and I say Joelle also needs very much to be on the ranch if they are talking need for discipline and weight loss.



(I'm watching the marathon of Solitary 2.0 right now and gleefully envisioning the BL people competing in these tasks and thinking some of them would be racing for that button to quit, especially Joelle.

Lardbrick
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01-16-2006

Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lardbrick a private message Print Post    
Boberg, I don't know how much of Tara's actions were selfless or she is starting to play the game. She just secured a couple of votes to keep her in the house if she is ever under the yellow line with Daniel and the guy (forgot his name) that she gave her phone call to.
She may turn out to be one of the smarter players.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, ah - I get your point now. I personally don't buy the 'scale never lies' stuff, because we know the scale can be manipulated. And sometimes the scale can hurt you if you don't eat enough.

I think bottom line it was Joelle's back talk and resistance. Many of the contestants are so grateful to be there, that they find her attitude offensive, and I would think it would be even more irritating because most of them had partners who had to go home and REALLY wanted to be there.

It may only be 40 minutes or whatever, but they can't show something that didn't happen. The attitude can't be faked by the camera.

Longbeachbbfan
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08-17-2005

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Longbeachbbfan a private message Print Post    
any spoiling?

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Damien and Joelle were below the yellow line. Damien was sent home!

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Tuesday, January 20, 2009 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Damien & Joelle are on the same team and all on that team voted to send Joelle home. The other team voted to send Damien home...hmmmm.

Oregonguy
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02-12-2006

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 3:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oregonguy a private message Print Post    
damien