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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Of course IF it isn't true, then they are the victims of the tabloids, just as so many in the spotlight are. And the tabloid sites don't give a fig for anyone's kids.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Problem is that it doesn't matter whether or not it's true does it? The effect on the kids will be the same and if Jon thinks the price of celebrity is too high.... well that's within his (and Kate's) power to change. They are the ones who made their children into public figures after all.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I imagine that their kids get teased somewhat anyway. After all their home life is public and they are celebrities. It's the price that they pay as a family for having a nice lifestyle and a lot of free perks. All a matter of deciding how they want their family to live and what is best for them.

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I am with Rissa on this one.

It is just a guess, obviously I don't know for sure, but my experience in working with kids I would bet that Maddie gets teased about her behavior that is shown on TV more than her parents behavior. I have always felt for her that she is not protected from keeping that out of the public eye.
People are not quick to forget and she is always remembered for that. Makes me sad for her.

When I hear/see adults discuss her the way they do, I can almost hear kids saying, "My mom says you were being a brat last night on the show"

We had a crew of family and friends at our lake house this past summer and this show came up in casual conversation, I was mortified how women were discussing this child. Just made me wonder how she gets discussed in her classmates home sadly.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
So if I was to create some scandal about you, it would be your fault?

Yeah, to me it does matter if it is true or not. I don't rely on the tabloids to provide truth. Not saying they don't manage to crank out a truth now and then, but some of them, not so much.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Sea, thats not at all what I was trying to say. What I meant was that whether or not the story is true the effect of the children will be the same and since the children should be the #1 concern... then no it won't matter whether it's true or not. And while it may not be Jon and Kate's *fault* that the tabloids keep managing to get pictures of Jon behaving badly while apparently drunk but certainly hanging out in bars, it is definately his responsibility to avoid putting himself in those situations.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I "hear" ya Rissa and totally agree. While it may not be exactly fair, I guess that is the price you pay for the fame. Jon really needs to wait about 10 years, then the kids will not be so in the spotlight and they will be a lot older and better equipped to handle any flak they may get.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Friday, May 01, 2009 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
I agree too Rissa and Julie. there is a good side of fame(1.3 million dollar house, free trips to Hawaii, Utah, SAn Diego and many other places, I could go on but I won't :-) ) and the ugly side of fame is that the paparazzi is looking for you to mess up so you should not mess up or put yourself in that position. It is the price of fame. They are just waiting for the perfect couples to mess up, sad but true and that is the price of fame. Once I saw Kate and Jon all decked out leaving Mr. Chow's in Beverly Hills getting in a Limo and and TMZ I knew fame had hit them big time.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
The Bible says a mouthful when it suggests to avoid the very appearence of evil. Wise counsel!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I suspect the Bible also has something to say to those who covet what others have and revel in their presumed downfall too.

In life, pretty much any choice we make leaves us open to critcism.. and hopefully we learn to be secure in our own actions and decisions and as the old adage says "don't let the turkeys get you down".

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Boy, ain't that the truth!!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, May 02, 2009 - 10:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Stumbled over this article:

Bar bouncer defends 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' star Jon Gosselin
http://realitytvworld.com/news/bar-bouncer-defends-jon-%26-kate-plus-8-star-jon-gosselin-1016392.php

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
"They have their disagreements but he's a family-oriented guy," Sands told People.com. "I don't think he'd put that on the line."

Sorry. He DID put that on the line.

I know it is not fair. But because he is so "famous" AND because he has kids, he had/has the responsibility to not put himself (and his family) in a situation where rumors could be blown way out of proportion.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
If he wasn't 'famous' would it be ok to go out with friends of the opposite sex? If platonic relationships are fine for the none famous, isn't it the fact that the media and public choose to make it seem seamy and wrong really the issue?


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
That goes back to the "it isn't fair" deal. It really isn't fair, but his responsibility to his kids trumps anything else. Jon cannot make the media and public do or think any particular way, so he has to make sure he acts in such a way that there is no issue. Just how it is.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
I agree Julie, their fame has put them under scrutiny. Now that he is famous and the star of a family oriented show, the paparazzi is unfortunatley going to look for one of them to do something wrong. It is sad but true. The paparazzi is going to take anything that may only look improper and blow it up to something which may or may not be true. Now that they have the fame and the perks that come with the fame, they also have to deal with the downside of fame. Unfortunately, the paparazzi is looking for one of them to mess up. Since JOn is now famous and a public figure, he unfortunately can't do anything that may be deemed improper, not matter how innocent it may be. Same with Kate.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Do we know if he said to the kids before he went out "daddy's going out with his friend Sarah tonite" before he went? All we know is the spin the media is putting on it.

I guess since I don't buy into the the whole sports figures/movie stars as role models thing, I don't really think that Jon and Kate should be held to a higher standard because they are on tv.
Do I feel sorry that the twins might be teased? You bet. I always think it's sad when children are teased unfairly. When my daughter was around 3rd grade she was teased by her friends because I am very short and her daddy is very tall; I guess it was my duty as a parent to marry someone more my height so my kids wouldn't be teased.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

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I forgot to mention, I got so tickled Friday. I was watching ShowBiz tonite on CNN and they were ALL over this story. The main guy was saying 'we have been getting texts, twitters, emails all day...people are on Jon's side, they don't like Kate. they think she is bossy, they hate her haircut'.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

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I don't get that. What is the media's point? That if the story IS true that Kate deserves it? That's really the message any media outlet wants to be putting out there? And shame on anyone sending in those tweets, etc.

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
That is too bad, though it doesn't surprise me. People are passionate and drastic about this couple one way or the other.
If they don't like them they can't say anything nice (even when there may be something nice displayed) and it often gets hateful.
Or if they like them they seem to defend everything they do when they are not perfect.

You see it on any board that talks about them.
It is too bad that CNN would choose to read all the hater stuff.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
They definitely polarize people! LOL

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I used to go out with work friends often while married and I wasn't putting anything "on the line".

What ISN'T fair is all the finger pointing and tsk-tsking that the articles/pictures dredged up by paparazzi bring forth. I suspect there are many people who probably shouldn't be throwing stones in their glass houses or assuming the worst.

Oh they hate her haircut.. who cares? I'm thinking Kate gets her hair cut in a way she enjoys. Period. Let's judge mothers for haircuts or how tall or short they are or judge a singer by her clothing.. so maybe if Kate had "acceptable" hair (I'm betting what is unaccetable is that she maintains a short hair style and thus must go to a hairdresser every few weeks.. <gasp> And she dares to plan ahead, use sales and coupons and feed her family organic food.. probably makes the rest of us feel shamed that we eat/feed junk food? But who cares, either way? I don't see Kate lobbying to outlaw junk food.

I say that if anyone who is a celebrity cowers in corners for fear of appearing in a way that then can be criticized, that is a bad bad example to set.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Ok,I know I am posting this in the wrong place,but I thought this would be the best place to ask,Does anyone know if Discovery Networks are working on a show based on the Mathias Quads? They have been running their two specials for a couple of weeks and makes me think its leading to something? I really hope so,I adore the family from what I have seen,and would be nice to see a Southern set of multiples on a regular basis.Thanks in advance!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 12:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Huh, Lori.. never heard of them but Discovery does love their multiples, so you never know!

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Monday, May 04, 2009 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
sigh people love seeing people dragged down, and love to find fault. I seen on the new this morning they were talking about how much a pair of sneakers cost that someone Dared wear! Like oh my gosh who cares, If I could afford expensive sneakers to walk my dog, or get my hair styled the way, all the more power to me! The gossip mongers can look in there own house!
trash talk is why those rag newspapers are still around!