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Lori32
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07-04-2008

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Annie,I totally agree that there was indeed love in early tapings. I believe there will always be some love because of the common bond of those beautiful children. It didn't occur to me what the reasons were when I watched the Hawaii episodes,but I remember thinking to myself it did seem very business like and not at all Emotional. I do believe they very much love their children and want only the best for them.I do however also believe, that they kind of got "caught up". And I mean both of them.Everyone could fall to this. I would love to sit and say I would never be changed,but the facts are,we are the lifestyle we live.We have to adapt to live and that is what makes life interesting.Be it good or bad,Life is one big Adaptation,at least that is my opinion. I do not condone Jon stepping out,(IF he did) I do not agree with Kate's behavior with Jon at times,but I do not know that I would not behave similarly with eight children. I get snippy with DH sometimes,especially during long school breaks and I only have the two.(both teenagers,God help me). And as it has been said,ITA with the statement that very often the very thing that draws us to someone is the same thing that we end up detesting.I would not dare say my DH and I are in any danger of marital woes outside the norm,but I can agree,many things I adored about him in the beginning I could just as soon remove from his personality with a pick axe. Just sayin'

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Sea...if she had 'no commented' the whole thing she would have been criticized too. she is truly damned if you do, damned if you don't.
so is jon for that matter too.


She isn't truly damned if she doesn't.

If you take a public position in life people are gonna talk about you, you are gonna be loved and gonna be criticized. But who cares, they don't owe us.
Really it is more her fans that seem to be over the top bothered if she is criticized, as is evidenced frequently here as well as other boards.

They are parents, their children come first and above and beyond any public duties when it comes to protecting them.

Look in the camera and say NO COMMENT.

If that makes people talk about them, let them talk. Who cares. Her fans will find ways scream in her defense. She doesn't have to answer to any of us.

A month ago all she had to do was look at those kids and say, who cares what they say about me or your daddy, they mean nothing, just listen to our words. Now she has to explain her public words about their father and he has to explain public pictures that do not include their mommy.
Nothing about that was damned until they made the choice to not protect or put their kids first.

Lotsofkids
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08-11-2007

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lotsofkids a private message Print Post    
Jon Gosselin Calls Separation Rumors "a Private Matter"

Jon Gosselin is back at home and, more importantly, back in front of the cameras. Not that he ever left them (the cameras, that is).
After two weeks spent shopping and hanging out with family friends, the increasingly estranged Jon & Kate Plus 8 patriarch today returned to his Wernersville, Pa., home, where he resumed shooting scenes for his ratings-snowballing TLC hit with twins Cara and Mady today.
Kate Gosselin remains vacationing in North Carolina with her sextuplets and tabloid-targeted bodyguard Steve Neild.
Jon and his girls arrived home around noon, and while he appeared to be in a good mood, it wasn't quite good enough to coax him into dishing too much about his clearly strained marriage.
"It's a private matter," Gosselin told E! News. "We'll handle it privately."
If by privately, he means in full view of the cameras and with the cooperation of the tabloids, then sure…
"You gotta read People," he said, referring to his recent unrevealing cover sit-down with the celeb weekly.
In the meantime, Gosselin got on with the business of his series-worthy daily life, unloading luggage out of the family's ever-reliable white van and cleaning up the front yard while his daughters played outside.
An hour before the trio's arrival, delivery trucks dropped off two new dishwashers in the family's driveway, which Gosselin will presumably install later today.
That's one episode story arc down, 38 to go.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Disclaimer: As of this evening, I just finished a-l-l my concert obligations for the year. I think I'm up with all the J & K drama, but had not have time to catch up with the thread yet. So if I'm repeating your thoughts, sorry to drag things out again!


Jon Gosselin used to only get $5 dollars to spend, according to his former employer, Us Weekly reports.

Wasn't that before they got TLC's big bucks? I believe that's when the sextuplets first arrived. They had some free diapers, formula and clothing back then while Jon had an IT job and Kate had to work as nurse on weekends.

What's wrong with that? We put ourselves on tighter allowance than that some times! In fact, as long as I have my lunch packed, all I need is a couple dollars for bus to and from work. We do this because we have low-income jobs and have two kids in college. But my own father who's very well off still does that and proud about it. Some days he will even save the bus money and use his own "#11 bus"(nic for his own two legs.).

2, I agree with Twigg, seems the only person hugging the camera is "Aunt Jodi"!
I thought they(Kevin & Jodi) didn't want any "compensation" TLC was arranging for them. But now they're shopping with a 30G prize tag!!!
No wonder Jon said something about,... if they're paid 20G, they will said anything the tabloids want them to. (He was off by $10,000! Imagine that!

Also, I think some wiser person gave them some good ideas so they finally stopped attacking Kate. Now they simply say it's for the children blah blah. Wonder what they would be saying if they were part of the show getting far more than $30,000 each season???

I'm sure Cara and Mady know enough to express their own feelings about cameras-- we saw how Mady jumped up from the "family portrait" at her sibs' B-day epi. But the young ones, 1) grew up with the cameras as the norm and 2) are just too young to talk about that. Kevin & Jodi said they haven't seen them for over a year(correct??), they would have been the most mature three-year-olds to communicate concepts like that. Like the other poster said, little ones may say "I like such." One moment and "I don't want such." the very next breath!

I'm on Jimmer's train of thoughts. Ten mouths to feed, ten bodies to cloth, eight little brains to educate, ... Let the get as much as they could while it lasts!
BTW, please call me if anyone wants to pay me 20-30K to talk about my husband's less than $5-a-day allowance.

I'm really not taking sides. I know very well there is enough blame to go around. But I also can't help remembering how, before TLC or Discover came knocking, Jon had a web site set up displaying photos, with write ups about their experience AND asking for donation. It was, in a sense, a very small scale of what TLC is doing for them right now.

So, what's that American saying about eat your cakes, too?
Jon seems to have forgotten that, he can not have it both ways. Kate did not plan all this and suddenly go out to sell everything from their day to day life(on camera) to writing books and making appearances.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Misty, I don't think we know when she started writing the books, and how "fine" they were doing at that point. We don't really know how much they make per episode now let alone in the early seasons, which guaranteed was much less. And of course none of us can define for them what "fine" might be.

Chewpito.. a webcast doesn't give the fans that face to face meeting and getting a signature in their book in person and of course at most signings, people are expected to buy the book at the venue, so that sells more books.

And the personal appearances, same thing.. the churches and other groups want to meet her, touch her, see her, I'm betting, anyway.

Julie, how is Kate playing victim, she is saying this is her work and she's not letting the media take her down over it. Seems like if anyone is playing victim it is Jon, saying he is trapped, and wants to be just Jon now.

Tabloid I saw tonight (just the cover as I went through checkout stand) claims that Jon has been caught by the paparazzi with yet another girlfriend, not the 23 year old teacher. Who knows.

I certainly won't try to tell you how much money they have (after taxes, remember). I highly doubt it is "millions", but I'm not privy to their bank accounts, tax records and such.

I don't misunderstand your point, I simply don't agree with you. As for anyone on the board saying Kate shouldn't go on tour.. Julie, haven't you said countless times that they must pull the plug on the show, go hide in Europe, etc.? So she wouldn't be touring either. And I kind of think it has been suggested that she should stay home, or go back to work and live on lese, no lack of suggestions, though I never heard either of them ask for suggestions.

And yep, they could say "no comment" but I've heard celebrity after celebrity make comments about how it takes time to learn to do that.. the natural reaction is to fight back!`

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Chy...that is a beautiful post. Very well said.

And yay for having your concert obligation completed. Big Brother's a-coming!

P.S. The saying is "You can't have your cake and eat it, too."
And you are so right.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Sea...I saw a tabloid cover that had Kate in her swim suit with the headline of "Mommy, you're mean" or something like that, being said by one of the kids.

Now seriously, is there a kid alive that hasn't said, "Mommy, you're mean."???

Jami
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10-08-2003

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 4:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
I read that Zondervon told her that she could go home, postpone the book tour, when all of this started and she didn't want to do it.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL..Bee..i think i hear it daily! or that I am ruining their lives!

the whole $5 thing reminds me of how I am always telling my daughter how important tone of voice is. you can say such a simple thing, and the tone will determine how one interupts it.
It can be interrupted so many ways. It's a simple set of words 'she gave him $5/day'. Depending on how it's said (or even heard for that matter) it can imply control or careful financial managment.

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Did anyone else see the Today show? They had a couple on with 2 year old sextuplets. Guess their reality show starts tonight on WE tv called "Raising Sextuplets."

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I finally caught up with all the shows and you can sooo see the opposite lifestyles they way they filmed the last few episodes. When John had a blast on their Utah vacation, instead of Kate saying she hated the snow and it wasn't for her, she might have wanted to go on vactions WITH John and not just write Utah off. It seems they are never together anymore and that's never good on a marriage.

From trying to read between the lines, Kate doesn't want a divorce, but John might. She should NEVER have give him that little bit of freedom, lol. He should realize he's got a family now and settle for "family" vacations to Utah, but it's like he just doesn't care. Perhaps that may be because on his alone time in Utah he may have met someone who actually listens to him and doesn't treat him like a 9th child. Kate has always been the one to say how things will go and it now may be coming back to haunt her. My heart broke for her in her confusion, but if only she would watch the past few years of shows, she might be able to see how to fix things now.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
More gossip news....

http://perezhilton.com/2009-06-05-jon-gosselin-caught-on-tape

There is really no doubt Jon is out hanging around younger women. I am truly wondering now if this one is for ratings since the first one got them 9 million viewers.

Hippygranny
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06-04-2009

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hippygranny a private message Print Post    
Hello;
Long time lurker here, decided to join in on BB this year & like the rest got caught up on the Jon & Kate mess.

My heart goes out to Kate & the kids, been there, done that but only had one child. Jon is throwing these women in her face & she is doing what she can to put up a good front. I thought it was bad when I went through it but she is facing the world while I was just facing my friends & co-workers. I did just what she did, lost a few pounds, changed my hair & went out to face the world.
Jon is so enjoying this attention but wonder how he will feel when the tups are 16 & don't want anything to do with him for what he did to their Mother, who always took care they had a home & love?
What goes around, comes around!
Glad to meet you all!!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Hiya HippyGranny! Welcome. I love your name!!
Nice post. Keep 'em coming!

Hippygranny
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06-04-2009

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hippygranny a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bee for the welcome!
I like that everyone has an opinion & there is no bickering.
I sure wouldn't want to be walking in Kate shoes now with 10 kids to raise & a husband who thinks its ok to play!
Off to feed the foster pups!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Welcome Hippygranny (LOL Beek, wonder why you like that name?)

When Jon says hang with friends -- doesn't he have any GUY friends? Or go anyplace but bars?

And of course these young things listen to him.. I suspect they are seeing fame and fortune in being around him and heck, they may get paid to do tell-all interviews in time, or hope he'll divorce and be paid some settlement.. Whether it is the respect he probably craves, or not.. hard to say.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 2:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
"When Jon says hang with friends -- doesn't he have any GUY friends? Or go anyplace but bars? "


AWESOME point!! Excellent question!! Will Jon's guy friends please stand up? Because aside from the bartenders,we ain't seeing ya'll!!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
(HG, welcome. I thought you might like to know there is another poster here at TVCH who fosters dogs. I'll bet before long someone will tell us who it is.)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
OG, besides TheOwl, Moonie, Pamy, Sirbill, Lance?? and I'm sure there are others who foster or have fostered.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Beckie03 is another...

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Wow, Sea, that many? I had no idea. About the only one I know about is the lady with the sweet son that we see from time to time with the pups.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I figure we probably have even more. That's Pamy with the sweet sone and the pups. Moonie is more into cats, but she will help dogs and ducks and horses too.

I don't foster, but I have supported the rescue where I got Angelina, but those who foster are true angels.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I don't foster, but I feed feral cats.

Hippygranny
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06-04-2009

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hippygranny a private message Print Post    
You wouldn't think so if you were here when we came back from shopping, sounds like a animal shelter & you would think we had been gone for 3 days!
Bless the people who foster or get involved in rescue, even the donations of 5# of food helps so much. We have fostered since 2002, are getting a little long in the tooth to do more than one now but we just had to take 2 this time, when I get to old to foster they can put me in a shelter cause I sure will miss those puppy kisses.
Great question about Jon's friends, if he had any they are probably smart enought to stay out of the fray!
Thanks for the welcome.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Friday, June 05, 2009 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Excellent article...

http://learningmylines.blogspot.com/2009/06/jon-kate-too-late.html