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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Did anyone notice last night when she scolded the camera man from crossing the 'line' and coming into her kitchen. I think it was tongue in cheek because she'd called a moritorium for the Emeril episode.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Thanks Bee and Huk.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
it was filmed in march.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Me too OG, but wow, that stuff looked good! Watching the Emeril episode. I'd undoubtedly be put to work with Jon peeling the garlic, though i actually used to cook..

I'm enjoying the episode.

The motorcycle guys were on Larry King tonight.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
ok I'm wondering - is Kate "selfish" or "territorial" in regards to "her" kitchen... she made a point (or the show made a point) of saying cameras werent allowed in "her" kitchen... and she mentioned to Emerill even - "her" kitchen.. to Jon does he even know where the oven is (they repeated the episode where Jon cooked a Korean meal)

it was sad to me - I totally understand someone that needs to control "something" -

Tess
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04-13-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 1:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
I'm going to speak up for the defense here. Imagine that you are the main cook for a husband and 8 small children, 3 meals per day plus snacks, 7 days per week. Heck, imagine it for just ONE meal. Add in the sharp knives, hot pots of boiling whatever, and a hot oven. Now toss in even one camera guy, a lighting persona and a producer. How sane would any of us be with all of that going on in their kitchen?

I had one toddler and one husband, no production crew, and I still had an absolute rule of no toys in the kitchen and NO ONE goes past the pantry and into the danger zone. NO ONE!! It's not just a control issue, it's common sense safety issues and it should be. One night when my daughter was 4, I didn't see a drawing she had left on the floor. I stepped on it, my feet flew out from under me and I landed on the back of my head first and the rest of my body followed. It took a very long time to recover. My doctor said the injuries I suffered were equivalent to being in a bad car accident.

Yes, John can serve Kimchi (he took it out of the package and put it on plates. He can also marinate the meat and grill it. I commend him for that. I love that Korean meat dish and so do my DH and my Korean daughter. None of us eat kimchi. Even Jon mentioned that he just heats up what Kate cooks for them.

Somehow I get the feeling that if Kate had let everyone into her kitchen over the years, there would be a thousand posts citing how irresponsible she was for endangering her children and herself. I may be alone in my opinion, but I am very glad that Kate's kitchen is off limits.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 2:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
Very good points Tess, it took one small kitchen accident for me to completely ban the kidlets when they were younger from being in the kitchen while I cooked.

But, it's not just that, though I'll admit maybe I'm weird about this. But, it's "my" kitchen, I totally get that! I do all of the meal planning, all of the grocery shopping and organizing, I cook most of the food and do most of the cleaning. I certainly spend more time in there than anyone else. Things are put where it's convienient for me, I have things I use even if no one else can figure out what they're for, and I have a few knick knacks and plenty of pictures and good grade homework pages (things that make me happy) in there. It's "my" kitchen! Darren's the same way about "his" garage and like my rule about no little kids in the kitchen while cooking is going on has his own rules about the garage. No kids playing in there ever and if they want to get their bikes, Dakota's pitchback net, or if Caleb's doing yard work, they need to let us know so we can open the door for them.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Hallelujah!! I'm not insane. I cannot stand to be crowded in the kitchen,I love to cook,practically live for it.But when my daughters come in there and kinda start "getting up my butt" I get testy. It is my space,and no matter how many times I have prepared something,I can mess it up if I am being irritated.I have also broken many a Generations old serving dish this way too,which always makes me so sad.And then I spout off at the kids and then I feel worse,because obviously they didn't cause it on purpose.I still turn pot handles inward and don't put sharp knives in the sink or anywhere they can be accidentally cut,even though they are 12 and 13.Habits like that don't die easy and honestly,they aren't bad habits for all ages.It is just to a point now that DH says to the girls.."Girls,get out of the kitchen and leave mommy alone".. They are more used to it now ,but they have their days.Ok now that I have rambled away I will go.

On Topic,Jon and Kate both seemed in a good place in this episode,EG- the interview segments,they were all cuddled up..

"A mouse in Red Underpants" How cute was that?!?!?!?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Lori, I think the problem is they are showing these episodes out of order. Evidently, the season premiere was filmed in May around Mother's Day (after all hell broke loose) and now they are showing episodes from March (before all hell broke loose).

I don't think they are in a good place right now.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
On Topic,Jon and Kate both seemed in a good place in this episode,EG- the interview segments,they were all cuddled up..

Were you watching an old episode? In the interview segments I saw on the Emmeril ep, they weren't even together for the interview! Separate interviews already, even before all heck broke loose?!

Kate can have her kitchen, but making snarky remarks about Jon not knowing where the stove is when you won't let people into *your* kitchen is, well... classic Kate.

I didn't see the green episode, but did they address Kate's constant use of paper plates? I notice she did break out a real plate for Emmeril and some plastic ones for the kids, but every other time I see her feeding them on paper plates. Doesn't seem very green to me.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Thank you for giving me your perspectives on kitchen territories - its not something I'm familiar with.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Clasic Kate and gazillions of other people: snarky remarks. Maybe to her it seemed like Jon was trying to portray that he cooked all the time, to Emeril.. and she's snarky and that can be uncomfy, but it isn't the end of the world, IMO.

When Larry King interviewed the OC Chopper guys, he tried to get them to comment on J/K current situation and fighting and one of them said in view of their own squabbles that I gather are shown on their show, they had no comment. I'm sure Larry was hoping for a different answer, but he just did his patented Larry grunt and went on.

Paper plates.. well I embrace them, not green, but then I don't use ANY water and electricity because I never run a dishwasher. And when I wash up stuff I don't leave the water running.. so sometimes you save one thing and not another, I guess.

I know it bugs people that she tries not to let 8 kids get 8 outfits dirty and just change clothing more often, but on the other hand she is saving water, soap, elect/gas by not washing QUITE as often or in the same volume, so, again, two sides. By not going for fast food (Kate.. I gather Jon does take them when she's gone) they are probably saving far more waste paper than would be used in their paper plates.

However, I didn't think I saw them cuddled up on a couch.. they would show one and then the other but I think even then they were catching them and filming their responses as they could catch them, with each of them travelling here and there.

I don't know what place they are in NOW, but surely when these eps were filmed they were in a better place than they were when they filmed the "season opener".

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Yeah, paper plates are complicated to me. I know they aren't green, but if she didn't use them, she'd be using the dishwasher, which uses a lot of water, and gas to heat the water, and something with phosphates to get the dishes clean. So it's sort of a six of one-half dozen of another situation to me, especially when you consider that lots of paper plates are made with recycled paper. The larger problem is that having that many kids is intrinsically harmful to the environment and a drain on natural resources.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
When do you guys start teaching your kids to cook? My mother had that thing where she was kitchen queen and I went into my marriage not knowing a thing about cooking. Our kids were in helping with meals as soon as they big enough. Daughters are way better cooks than me and our son even won a chili cook-off.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
So Sorry,LOL. I DID indeed watch an old episode,and I knew it was an old episode,I just didn't think to clarify that in my post.My apologies,I was just noticing that at that time,they were in a really good place.I don't have a clue why I wasn't more clear.I guess I just thought all of you were in my head and knew what I meant.(Thank God you aren't,it's a mess in there!!) So very sorry if I confused anyone.Yes I saw the Emeril episode as well,I guess that's what made me see the stark differences. I so very sorry...<hanging head in shame>

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Super,despite my "territorial" thing about the kitchen.I started teaching my girls basics when they were about 5 or 6. I don't mind them being in there when it is for that purpose.It only bothers me when I am making a meal or relaxing(yes I relax in the kitchen). That being said,I don't think it is ever really too early to start teaching. My Mama let me start when I was big enough to reach the counter,I was basically self taught.But I enjoyed every minute..

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I learned to cook by cooking with my grandma. That's also how I learned fractions by doubling recipes and what not. Now I bring my girls in the kitchen and let them cook with me. It's great bonding time. They love to dump stuff in the bowls.

What I did is bought them a kiddie cook book, I let them each pick a recipe they wanted to try and make, and got all the ingredients and away we all went. They have a blast doing that.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I'm pretty territorial about the kitchen. I'm the one who spends a good part of my life in there and when I am in the midst of cooking I really don't like anyone else in there with me. They just get in my way. As far as paper plates, we use them about 90% of the time. I don't have a dishwasher so I'm not going to wash anymore dishes than I have to. Green or not it makes my life easier. And if I had super solar panels on my house I'd still be using paper plates. LOL

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Some of the justifications for Kate I read here are simply off the hook. She's pimping her kids out for money. 'Nuff said.

ETA: But they are chuckle worthy :-)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Holly, do you feel like way about all parents on reality shows?

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I've never watched any other parents on reality shows, Texannie. I certainly felt that way about Octomom though.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
She's in a different class (and i use that wordly loosely!) completely!
Just wondered cause all the parents with reality shows on tv with kids get compensated so technically they are pimping their kids out too.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Pimping is way harsh,dontcha think??
Just Sayin'

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Main Entry: pimp
Pronunciation: 'pimp
Function: noun
: one who derives income from the earnings of a prostitute usually by soliciting business


(yes I already knew what the word meant,but thought for Posting sake I should paste it as it is defined in the dictionary.)

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Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Wednesday, June 10, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Not really.....cause with out the kids, they would not have any of this..... so as long as the kids are cute and do thier thing....the $$$ will come in...