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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
<77> He has gone off the rails. He is the train wreck. If he had just quietly filed for divorce and kept it in his pants, we would hardly have anything to talk about other than how cute the kids are and how sad it is that the marriage didn't work. Or if he had lived this new life he loves, but kept it out of the news by refusing to discuss the divorce at all, we'd just have unsubstantiated gossip to go by.

As is it, he has shown himself over and over to say one thing and do another. Now we can see what Kate has been putting up with and why she was so harsh at times. When you and your spouse decide that you are going to do things a certain way, and your spouse agrees without a question but then does just the opposite, you might get a little cranky too. That is the way of the passive-agressive personality. They are hard to live with and harder to reach agreements with.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I think what Jon is saying is the over 2 million is from the tv show itself. Kate has made tons more money from her 2 books and appearances, and is hiding it (Jon says). Plus, doesn't Kate get something like 30,000 per speaking engagement she does? I read she did approx 50 speaking engagements in one year, while Jon was home with the kids.

There's no way I believe she doesn't have the cash to pay a month's worth of bills. I think she just doesn't want to dig into her own stash, and feels that money is her own.

I'm not saying what Jon did was right, but I am saying there is no way Kate is broke.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Mamabatsy, thank you for coming to Kate's defense.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
To add to what Rissa said, not only does he expect to take his "salary" out of the gross, expect that Kate will pay everything else out of his half (since even a down payment on his Manhattan apartment and the expensive little car that is clearly not for the kids since it would only carry one child with him driving) but he even characterized the bills for his kids and the property he still co-owns and sometimes lives in as "her bills".

Pretty skewed.

And of course the attorney claims all that $$ is for HIM.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Oh, this is kinda surprising: "During her New York visit, Kate is also expected to attend a party Monday night at the Empire Hotel's rooftop to celebrate her recent View co-host Sherri Shepherd's new Lifetime sitcom, Sherri. The celebration will be co-hosted by Barbara Walters." People

So: Mrs Gosselin was going to NY without the kids (who couldn't come to NY to see the State of Liberty because.....? TLC wasn't paying for it? Them not coming makes her story that much more *sniff* sad *sniff*?....) so she can party with Ms Walters and Ms Shepherd. And she can do this because she's broke and can't pay her bills for the month?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Maybe it's Jon's time with the kids and he won't let them come....

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
<77> I like Kate and I get it. She's scared out of her mind at what the future is bringing her way.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Well, if it's Jon's time with the kids, perhaps she could have scheduled her trip for a time she actually had them. That way, she could have taken them to see the Statue of Liberty even if it meant she'd miss her time around celebrities. But if her budget is so tight right now, it might be better not to go to NY.

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Ahem!

This is it: If we have to moderate you again for saying something negative about your fellow posters, your account will be suspending immediately for a minimum of 24 hours.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
<99>

Some of you mentioned Kate wanting to take the kids to NY to see the Statue of Liberty, but doesn't Jon live in NY? Why doesn't he just take them? Especially now that he has all their residual money. Why does Kate have to take them, as well as take them on her dime? Can't he at least pay for something that isn't just for him. I'm just wondering since he already lives in NY; it seems logical to me that he take them.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I'm sure Jon could take them, but Mrs Gosselin was kvetching about it this morning on The View--that they were supposed to come to NY to see the Statue of Liberty for the show, but the visit had to be canceled because production was shut down. So Mrs Gosselin is now in NY ready to party with Barbara Walters, Sherri Shepherd, and other celebrities instead.

And can you imagine Mrs Gosselin's response if the children's father took them to NY when he had custody? After she called the cops about a babysitter at their home in PA?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Then, I love that she kept saying, "I never wanted to be here discussing these things" as if she just magically found herself in front of Meredith Viera when she woke up. OF COURSE she wanted to be there discussing it--which is why she was there discussing it.

HaHaHa!!!!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 3:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
<99>

The whole Statue of Liberty spin and the spin about the kids being so attached to the film crew (disturbing in itself...will the crew get visitation) so much that they are upset and crying...it's all spin to make herself look good/better. Basically she's going around saying she can't pay bills, she's walking around with unpaid bills in her purse, the kids are devastated they can't go to the Statue of Liberty...poor Katie. But at least she still can go to NY and party.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Like I said earlier, Kate is scared and I can understand that. I hope all this stress doesn't beat her down too badly.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
The whole Statue of Liberty spin and the spin about the kids being so attached to the film crew (disturbing in itself...will the crew get visitation) so much that they are upset and crying...it's all spin to make herself look good/better. Basically she's going around saying she can't pay bills, she's walking around with unpaid bills in her purse, the kids are devastated they can't go to the Statue of Liberty...poor Katie. But at least she still can go to NY and party.

Right on!!

<100>

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
They have actually shown on the tv show how the kids feel like the crew are part of their family so it is sad that they are being disrupted this way.

Kate and Jon need to prepare the kids for the time when the crew doesn't come anymore.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I just now saw her "break down" in footage from a show she was on this morning. But where are the tears? This is the 2nd time I've seen her "crying" and she dabs away at her eyes but there's no water or tears visible at all. And I really had to LOL when she kept repeating "how am I to put food on the table for my children?" Is she kidding me? Are we seriously to believe that they may go hungry?

Wow, just also saw Jon being interviewed by Mary Hart. He's totally denying her claims about the money and he really seems to be fighting mad. I think Kate has a huge big fight on her hands now. Really wouldn't want to be her.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Something changed today (on Today and The View) for me with regards to Kate.

Seems to me she initially got a lot of negative feedback (way before marital problems) when the show was first on and she was often shown berating Jon.

Then when the split up happened, all of a sudden she got a ton of support.

Then Jon acted more and more nutty and she got more and more support.

Then something happened--maybe it was Jon "coming to" (for whatever reason) and her show was looking like it would end. So she tries to get more support.

But this time she doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So now it looks like she is painting herself into a bad corner... (feed her kids my butt!! Have fun at the party in NYC!!)

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 4:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Please don't discuss moderating. That's also against TVCH rules.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
I'm going to do some rough math here:

Monthly payment on $750,000 mortgage $5000.00
Rent for Jon's NYC apartment $5000.00
Est. payment on previous mortgage $1300.00
Govt figures for moderate food budget
for family of 8 $1500.00

That's $12,800 right there per month, or over $150,000 in a year. That doesn't even include heat, electricity, car, insurance, telephone and everything else that people pay each month.

So, for someone to remove over $200,000 from the pot can definitely have a huge impact on a family.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
150K for a household expenses for an income over 2 million sounds good. That's about 13% of their income going to living expenses, not too shabby.

Kellsma
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08-27-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 5:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Does anyone watch Entourage. There was a funny reference about Jon and Kate plus 8 on last nights season finale. Basically one big Hollywood agent was buying another agency and he hated most of the people at the agency he was buying so he went in to the agency he just bought with a paint ball gun and was shooting people with paintballs if he was firing them. One agent said, Hey, I represent Jon and Kate plus 8 and the agent who bought the new agency shot him a ton of times with paintball for representing them. It was pretty funny :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well to that (Kelldoggs calculations) I say, get rid of the extravagant lifestyle!! Sell the multimillion dollar house. Don't start crying to me until you do!!!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I didn't realize the only way to see the Statue of Liberty was if TLC organizes and pays for it! Imagine my surprise as I had planned to save my money and take DD when she was older. Hmmm.... What's a single mom to do? LOL.

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Monday, October 05, 2009 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
Wait a minute...how was I able to see the Statue of Liberty with my dad and my grandmother then, on separate occasions? Wow, I know novel thought. Stop relying on TLC's dime and make your own memories with your kids Jon and/or Kate! It will last and mean a lot more to your 8 kids in the long run. At this point, neither one of these parents are acting like parents in my books. When was the last time either of them were caught acting like parents when the TLC didn't have a camera pointed at them?