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Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 2:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
Someone once told me that you have to live in
"a couple's bedroom" to get a glimpse of the truth.

I don't know Kate, but I've seen her on TV, and she is a real shrew.

I don't know Jon, but I've seen him on TV, and he is very weak.

Without knowing one true thing about either of them, I'm kinda leaning toward the original belief that Kate treated Jon like crap, and like a child suddenly set free, he is behaving badly.

Who knows who is right and who is wrong? I don't think anyone does, who only "knows" them from TV.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I have a hard time thinking a judge would award Jon any alimony since Kate will be the only one earning money to support 8 kids.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I believe the money from kate's books went to the trust set up for the children. I am not sure about appearance fees, but I am pretty sure that when either one of them appear on the Today show, ET whatever to make a 'comment' they are not getting paid.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Sunrvrose, that post says it all!!!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Again, this is just my opinion, but if Jon had left well enough alone, he would have been awarded alimony at the divorce since she was the wage earner in the family. Since he removed all the living expense money, she is seeking money to live on until the courts decide how the children will be supported and by whom. If they cannot continue with the show, then they will both have to find a way to pay for the children's living expenses.

Mama, in this latest saga, Jon didn't do anything. It was Kate who called an emergency Today Show appearance about something else (which boggles my mind...I actually thought that was a real news show..sheesh) and then went on to claim that Jon has stolen money from their account and she couldn't fee her poor wee ones. Kate started this whole fiasco and Jon is trying to defend himself. It's a shame, really, because someone finally got ahold of Jon and told him to straighten up. He heard the message, but has been having to defend himself from Kate with her accusations.

Your post is spot-on. Sunrvrose!

ETA: Mama, supposedly, there is plenty of money for Kate to live on until they go to court. I hope this freakout of hers re Jon 'stealing' his own money comes back to bite her you know where.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
It's turned into an extremely nasty divorce. It'll probably turn out to be one of the decades most despicable divorce. None are looking too good right now. Neither Jon or Kate seem to be keeping the kids best interests at heart. Do the kids get their own attorney? I think some states appoint an attorney or someone to look out for the kids. They, the kids might have some sort of legal action against both TLC and their parents for monies that might be due them for their work on the show. Just wondering. The kids need someone to look out for them since the parents are to involved in making themselves look a certain way to the public through the media.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Mama, in this latest saga, Jon didn't do anything. It was Kate who called an emergency Today Show appearance about something else (which boggles my mind...I actually thought that was a real news show..sheesh) and then went on to claim that Jon has stolen money from their account and she couldn't fee her poor wee ones. Kate started this whole fiasco and Jon is trying to defend himself. It's a shame, really, because someone finally got ahold of Jon and told him to straighten up. He heard the message, but has been having to defend himself from Kate with her accusations.


So, Jon shutting down the show and arbitrarily ending the source of income for himself and his family with no alternative means of support was nothing?

Oh, that's right, he did it to protect the kids from having their lives taped. Except for ET taping their birthday. Because he is tired of appearing on TV. Except for all of those shows he taped.

Jon took 22K out of a joint account without telling Kate so money was NOT an issue for HIM, since he already had HIS spending money. Would have been nice if he could think of anyone beyond himself.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I did find it telling that when Nancy Grace asked him a question about the children, he again started talking about himself. Then she called him on that - "Jon, I asked about the children, why does it always come back to you?". Jon, FWIW, at least got pensive and said "I don't know."

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
To put it in elementary terms, Kate doesn't play well with others.

Kate does not share.

The Rohloff's shared w/ his side of family and her side.
The Duggars shared w/ his side of family and her side.

Kate.....NO ONE!!!!

This is her. And if you have watched the show from the beginning you see the real Kate.
I am, by no means defending Jon. I'm am just stating the cold hard facts of her.
If you have ever lived with someone with her persoality you see the clear.
If you haven't, you are very lucky.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
This is very confusing to me. Kate is the one causing the problem because she told the world what Jon had done? Jon was counting on her reluctance to discus their personal issues when he stole the money. She pulled a fast one on him by letting the world know that he went against the arbitrated agreement and took money that is meant to support the children. I guess she's just an old meany for telling the world what he did.

Kate is likely hard to live with, but if you've ever lived with a Peter Pan who is also passive aggressive, you would become a Kate. She will be much better without him. He will still be Jon.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
LOL...when this thread slows down I will know that the Gosslins 15 minutes are up!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
SG, I'm just sorry I'm as old as I am as I probably won't live long enough to see what the youngest 6 will do with their lives.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't see one parent being more at fault than the other. Both are screwing their kids with the way they are acting during this time. However I find Jon a wee bit more likable. At least he cops to not having handled things right. Whereas a I see Kate as being a little more disingenuous about her financial plight and playing the single mom card and fake tears. They both need times out and a good paddling with a wooden spoon.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm opposed to spanking Lil, but in this case I think you're right. LOL.

I see Jon bumbling around, but at least trying to make changes, maybe not always the best changes, but at least trying. I just see Kate being the same old Kate. I'm still waiting for her lightbulb moment.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Brenda I'm opposed to spanking too but there are exceptions to every rule. I wonder if we can get a paddling line going.....it would probably wind miles long with people waiting their turn to swat both of them and the kids would want to be at the beginning of the line.

JibJab needs to get a video of a Jon and Kate paddling line together it would go viral.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Mamabatsy, I think you are right. I think he was bring the worst out of her. He was not as involved with the family as she thought he should be and it drove her nuts... and it made her act out at times.

I think once the garbage stops we will see a more calmer Kate. Jon will still be angry.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I just hope we never find out!!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
This is very confusing to me. Kate is the one causing the problem because she told the world what Jon had done

Mama, according to the bank records Jon produced he didn't take the money; at least not in one fell swoop as Kate is alledging. Just because Kate said he did it, it didn't happen as she stated. I sincerely doubt this guy would go on TV, with the TV hosts looking @ his bank statements and say he didn't do it.

Like Sherbabe stated, Kate is Kate. It may have worked for them, but she wanted out. Maybe if she hadn't been in such a hurry to make Jon someone else, they could have gone to counseling and both tried to keep the marriage going, but that didn't work.

I can't help but feel all Kate's accusations against Jon were because he put the stop to HER show! Temper tantrum at it's finest. She isn't going to take letting him stop HER livelihood laying down.

I guess I'm confused why someone is guilty of something just because someone who's angry at them accuses them of it. Shouldn't it be investigated before he's gound guilty?

Mamabatsy stated:
Jon took 22K out of a joint account without telling Kate so money was NOT an issue for HIM, since he already had HIS spending money. Would have been nice if he could think of anyone beyond himself.

I don't quite understand exactly what this account is for, but it's a joint account of their liquid money, right? Jon kept saying something about he and Kate each pay $7500/mo. to the living expenses, but I thought this account was the one where Jon got his spending money from. I thought Kate was upset because she said he took $200,000. I don't think the $22,000 was a problem, but I could be wrong.

Re him stopping production, I'm not blind to Kate. She wanted Jon gone from that show...she moved too fast and he fought back. Good for him. How much longer before she has him gone from his childrens' lives?



Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I think once the garbage stops we will see a more calmer Kate. Jon will still be angry.

I couldn't disagree with this statement more, Kittyab. Kate herself said she is an irritable person..just her and she will always be upset and angry about something; whereas, I see Jon settling down. Howeever, given the amount of people Kate has shut out of her life, he'd be a fool not to be angry now and fight for his life where his children are concerned.

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
Jon will still be angry, selfish and not thinking of his kids. Kate and the kids will be so much more at peace with Jon gone. He's a bad penny, only shows up when he wants something.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Your rebuttal is confusing. I did not mention 1 thing about it being Kate's fault, Mama.

The kids will have their own book deal some day and make their own million dollars.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Sherbabe, I never said you did, but others had said that.

Jon said during one interview that he had also removed $176,000 that he had coming to him as his salary for the years he put in the show. He just took the final $22,000 out a week or so ago and drained the account to $1,000 which is when it came to Kate's attention.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I heard that too Mama, 177,000 since beginning of year PLUS the 22,000 just last week = 199,000.. Just shy of the 200,000 thats been floated around..

Also in the latest US magazine...They have this blurb about where Jons money goes..
CARS, according to a source, Jon just gifted his girlfriend Hailey with a $45,000 Mercedes SUV. He also owns a BMW and coming soon a $115,000 Audi R8..
BOOZE, A source says Jon regularly rings up $400 tabs while partying with friends and women he flirts with.
BACHELOR PAD, Jon shells out a cool $5,000 per month on his NYC apartment.


Now, I don't see him spending that kind of money on Hailey just yet so I'm not sure I beleive all of that...but the guy does live large. And to think people were always harping on Kate for getting manicures and tanning etc..

I think Jons behaviour got him booted from the show in name only.. It wasn't Kates doing unless maybe you have some proof? Could it have something to do with Hailey calling them (TLC)The Lying Channel or maybe Jons t-shirt that day with Liar written all over it. I think Jons actions got him in trouble on the show. Give credit where credit is due..

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 12, 2009 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
My head is always spinning when I read this thread, but once the spinning slows down my allegence always falls in Kate's camp.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Monday, October 12, 2009 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Cricket, what I am trying to say is that I think that Jon drives her nuts and that is why we see her so stressed out. Sometimes our spouses bring out the worst in us.

Jon and the young girls.... you can not blame that on Kate at all. That is all him.