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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:15 pm
You know, I'm all for divorce when people are incredibly unhappy, but I'm all for trying to fix things.. probably why I was married for 13 years and that was at least three too long, but I was honestly thinking that when I gave fair warning, he'd get a job. BUT, we didn't have children. I do hope they at least gave counseling a chance, yes, because of the children. No, don't stay together without making a huge effort to actually reconcile, and don't ever blame the children for staying if unhappy, but there are times when wounds can be healed. But that would take both of them willing to do that, and haven't seen the show, or heard what they have to say. Could be that neither one wanted to stay together. Kate, in what I have seen, seems sad about it. Jon seems beyond that, more defiant (and that is not to say he's never been sad about it or that she's never been defiant.. heck, you go through the whole gamut of thoughts and emotions when you split, assuming youtook the marriage seriously to begin with, and I think they both did. Not reading back, yet, I'm needing to get some stuff done, first, just came here to make sure the wide thread was fixed, but what bothered me when Jon asked one of the 'tups if she missed him was that he brought it up on camera, seemed clear that he was hoping to get some "good footage" and I thought that sucked.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:18 pm
No, I meant her physical self Cricket. I am 100% sure that Jon knows where Kate is. What are the odds that she would take off for four days without telling anyone? What if there was a child emergency? That would be like handing Jon sole custody on a silver platter. I wouldn't be surprised if she was just in the house and avoiding cameras although she could also be holed up with family. Wherever she went though I am sure Jon is aware which makes him a class-A jerk for responding to the paps the way he did. 'No Comment' or just ignoring the question would have sufficed.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:24 pm
I don't know why, Rissa, I just think he was asked and he answered. I'm sure SOMEONE knows how to get in touch with Kate (she has people now ya know) but why would she tell Jon where she was going if they just filed papers? The whole thing could be made up and they didn't even interview Jon, so who knows. I guess in the next few weeks we'll hear what happened after the divorce filing.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:34 pm
First, I doubt Jon is home alone with the kids. The nanny(s) are there and they know where Kate is, TLC knows where she . Jon probably doesn't know where she headed, probably because he doesn't care and didn't ask and she doesn't go over her itinerary with him any more...just the logistics of when shell be back so that he's out of the house when she comes home. I don't think anyone is happy about the divorce but it happens a lot.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:41 pm
Perhaps we are discussing two diff. things Cricket? I am referring to a video of Jon saying directly to the camera that he has no idea where Kate is. Lilfair, very possible but no matter how the info was passed along... Jon knows and his response makes him look petty.
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:43 pm
I just hope there's some $$ left for these kids after this is all said and done. I wish Kate could see herself from the outside looking in. Does she really think she's a celebrity who has lasting power? I'm afraid whoever said the fat ladies were singing has hit that nail right on the head.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:44 pm
...so, I'm thinking, if I'm a kid and my parents buy me a new house and a couple of puppies.. brace yourself!!
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:45 pm
I wish Kate could see herself from the outside looking in. If only we ALL could see ourselves from the outside looking in. My, what a different world this would be. 
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:46 pm
It didnn't make him look petty to me. Why would Jon care where Kate is, the entire world knows they are no longer a couple. They only have the kids in common and they probably use the nanny's as their go between. It makes sense, why would he care where she is?
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:52 pm
I can assure you beekindpleez, I am very proud of the way I live my life, day in and day out and would have no problem living in a glass house. I can't say what would happen if I were a celebrity and wouldn't wish it to happen if I could.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:53 pm
I keep trying to figure out what Kate has done that shows she thinks she is a celebrity or is enjoying the limelight anymore than Jon is. Sure, Jon said he didn't like being "Jon and Kate plus 8", but his actions (new chopper, snowboarding, new car, hair plugs) shows he likes the perks. Kate has certainly enjoyed the perks too, but why is her enjoying them somehow worse? Is it cause she wrote the books? last I checked, a publisher wouldn't publish a book that they didn't think would sell.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:54 pm
I have to agree with Lilfair, Rissa. Yes, we are talking about the same thing. I think Jon is so tired of being slammed for 'having an affair' if he and Kate had an agreement and perhaps he realizes after being apart from her he wasn't happy with her, he's just going to tell it like it is. I don't think he knew where she went. I wonder if that tape is part of tonight's show. Hmm. He said something in an article about finally finding himself. On the issue where Kate had tissues she said Jon had a lot of 'issues.' I hope if that's so he's learning to resolve his issues. The two I feel the worst for in all of this is the twins. They are old enough to understand the finality of it. So very, very, sad.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:54 pm
I actually think the answer to all this was given to us by Jon and Kate at the end of last season. I just watched the last episode on You Tube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs6_562MpfI&feature=related. If you watch the last few minutes they are both totally honest about how they are feeling. Jon clearly wants to quit the show and is hating the position it puts him and the family in. Kate says she loves it, is content, and it's the perfect job. She says they can't go back, he says he doesn't know. She implied she can't wait for this season, he again hesitated. Given the timing of this, it makes me wonder if this was the straw that broke this camel's back? It seems to make a great deal of sense. Seems Kate choose the show over what her husband wanted. At least it clearly was a huge influence. Bee, I do agree that many folks have no clue how they really are. BUT some of us at least try to connect the dots along the way. Plus they get to see it on film, which I would think would be eye opening, assuming one wanted said eyes open! And given how cold and uncommunicative they were around each other in aired footage, guess I'm not having that hard a time believing he might not know where she is.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:54 pm
I didn't realize Jon being asked where Kate is happened ON Father's Day. I'm watching it now on Inside Edition.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 4:56 pm
...so, I'm thinking, if I'm a kid and my parents buy me a new house and a couple of puppies.. brace yourself!! LOL, Kellirippa..good to have a little levity. Makes me wonder if Kate will keep the dogs. She does not like them.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:01 pm
Oh Cricket, you are free to disagree with me. LOLOL I was referring to when you said: The whole thing could be made up and they didn't even interview Jon, so who knows because I was referring to a video of Jon so no doubt he said it. But as to the interpretation? I am sure there are as many opinions as there are viewers.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:03 pm
Lurk, I know what he has said, but his actions seem like he sure enjoys the lifestyle the show brought and continues to bring. he just doesn't seem to want the cameras. kate seems to realize the catch-22 of that. Tzhazeleyes, you are better than me. For the most part, I think I am a pretty good person, but I don't think I could ever live in a glass house.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:13 pm
Amen Annie,No Glass house here,I don't like to do windows.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:19 pm
Just to be clear, my post was most certainly NOT directed at anyone. I am just saying that if we could have a look at ourselves as others see us, we might all be motivated to be on our best behavior more often. LOL Has it started yet? I'm goin' nuts down here. LOL I keep running upstairs to see if I've missed anything and it takes f o r e v e r with this Dial-Up.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:23 pm
I'm a very imperfect human being and wouldn't have it any other way. My glass house would be good viewing ;).
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:23 pm
"THEE" ep starts in 37 minutes from the time I hit send on this post, Beek...No matter what the board time says...The board time is a few mins off.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:23 pm
Jon seems just fine with the perks, the expensive little car, the $300 sweatshirts and tshirts, being able to buy a $50K chopper and he has mentioned the perks and liking those. Well, without the cameras, and considering he doesn't want to do the speaking gigs, or the writing or the interviews, his pipeline to perks is the kids and it sounds like he used them on Father's day if he had the paps nearby shouting questions because they certainly have sufficient acreage that he didn't have to be near them. And the TLC photogs don't normaally ask questions while filming. I did watch the TVGuide Channel half hour and they seemed to actually believe that both Jon and Kate did the books and she speaking engagements, but lately all I've seen him do on his own was be filmed helping to build his chopper and the helping with the handcapped skiier before he re-joined the teacher to party. And perhaps in the already filmed sequences we'll see Jon filming with the kids for the show sans Kate//
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:27 pm
I think Kate confuses Jon not wanting to do the show and the celebrity part of it, with Jon resenting having to be home with the kids while she's away (why is it Kate that travels to represent them as a family anyway?) I'm getting this impression based on comments made in the last episode of the previous season and from comments of the current seasons first show. I have never gotten the impression that Jon does not like spending time at home alone with the children...
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Glenrie
Member
03-24-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:30 pm
Actually OC Chopper said that Jon has a $125,000 chopper
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 5:38 pm
Just watching the birthday episode where J & K were beginning to tell us the inside stuff. Jon said that work is his life and life is his work (or something like that) and that nowhere else does this occur. Then he said, "I've worked my whole life". Well, we know he was backpacking around when they met, and that he didn't hold onto his IT job (we have heard he was fired). So his idea of work and mine are two different things...and his whole life? Give me a break. Jon has said he wants to be "just Jon" not "Jon and Kate Plus 8", and he said he wanted to do guy things since for 5 years it had been kid things; and finally, he actually said he wanted his freedom. Freedom?!? Your children are your children and your responsibility for at least 18 years. The simple word freedom, told me everything I needed to hear. Kate admitted she'd been hard on Jon, and she also said she was gone a lot recently on book tours because it was her job. And she acknowledged that Jon was home with the kids a lot. Then he admitted he couldn't write a book, so the roles couldn't be reversed. Five years of being a stay at home Dad (as if he had done it all alone for 5 years) wasn't what he wanted out of life. He certainly doesn't want a real job or he would have gone out and gotten one (since there are supposedly nannies there at either of their disposal). I don't think it will be long before we see one of Jon's "friends" moving in with him. He just wants to play, and now that he has money to do so (thanks to Kate), he can.
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