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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yep, and assumptions and sometimes even wild extrapolations based on what some one "heard". Oy.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
But isn't it just like message boards to make judgments or fun of other people's imperfections.

I wasn't making FUN of Kate saying um so much. I'm sure she was stressed. I used the um so much to emphasise my NOT wanting Kate to make fun or correct Jon on TV EVER again! SHE isn't perfect, so why does she have to pick on Jon when he says things she doesn't think is correct? THAT is why I pointed out all of Kate's ums.

W/o the ums I'll say again, whether Jon cheated or not, Kate is dealing with the situation WITH Jon, not w/o Jon. So IF he cheated, she's working through it. It is THEIR business, whether a person believes Jon cheated or believes Jon didn't cheat.

As far as making assumptions or judgments on a message board. Judgments or assumptions are made good and bad. Kinda hard to relay how you feel on a message board w/o making an judgement. When somebody posts something positive, that is a judgment just as much as when somebody posts something negative. If we are not allowed to post judgments then all we could do is post what happened on the show - no personal input allowed. Then what would happen to the message board?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL – It would get rather dull. Anyway, speaking as a Moderator now, we should get back to talking about Jon & Kate and not about message boards.

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With respect to infidelity in marriage, I think it is totally up to the family how they handle it as they are the ones that are affected by it. Whatever decision they make (separating or trying to make the marriage survive the infidelity) it is their decision alone and what works for one couple at a certain time in their life will not work for another.

Of course, because Jon and Kate are celebrities and in their situation their entire celebrity and money earning status is based on their personal life being made public, they are especially in the public eye and people will comment.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
One thing I have never understood is the fact that just because someone is on TV or in the movies, why do I have the right to know what goes on in their private lives that is not televised. I know that they are celebrities, but when they have a personal crisis what make us all feel they must answer to us. They only have to answer to each other. My heart goes out to all of them and I sure hope that they work everything out for the best, what ever that may be.

On a lighter note, I used to tell my DH when he was alive, that if he ever decided to cheat on me that he best be wearing his best cloths, because that would be all he would be getting. LOL

Txhazeleyes
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02-12-2008

Sunday, May 10, 2009 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Txhazeleyes a private message Print Post    
Who's suggesting that they answer to us? I certainly don't think that, but I won't deny having a healthy curiosity regarding some celebrities.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 12:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm curious too but wouldn't be pressing for answers or submitting questions and I won't buy any magazine that does, but I think it is more "opinions" but rather strongly worded that they should do this or that (as in quit the show, get a job, embrace the relatives who set up the hate sites, get a job, not accept free trips, not choose the puppis they prefer, get those tups out of bibs/high chairs and many other "suggestions" with a healthy dose of outright bashing on MANY boards, and I'm sure I haven't seen the worst of those. Blatent namecalling, especially of Kate. Bashing of children (Mady)

Sia
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03-11-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Someone mentioned up-thread that people are paid quite a bit for the inconvenience of having almost every moment of their private lives filmed and much of their personal business aired on television. I, for one, am curious about the salaries of celebrities, television actors and reality stars. Can anyone provide a link here, please, to at least a partial listing of what people are paid for television appearances? I'd be grateful for your efforts.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Are you really sure you want to know?
http://television.aol.com/photos/tv-star-salaries

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15392435

Just a few I found while googling.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Here is another link about what they are paid for The Hills

http://stupidcelebrities.net/2008/08/24/the-hills-stars-salaries-revealed-photos/

So I assume that these rates are fairly similar for the shows out there. The first season they probably start out small and move up as the shows becomes more successful

Sia
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03-11-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
It's staggering. My grandmother, age 91, gets about $2,500 per YEAR in Social Security and pays a private insurance carrier over $100 per month for health coverage in addition to her regular Medicare coverage. She's worked hard all her life (on a farm), raised three children, has 12 grandchildren and a bunch of great-grandchildren. She has not been paid "commensurate with her skills." She's been sadly undervalued and underpaid.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
I agree Sia, it is very sad.

Sia
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03-11-2002

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Sorry, almost posted this twice. I am finally getting high-speed. My dial-up service has gotten on my last nerve. The computer connection dropped out just as I thought I'd posted, and I wasn't sure the post had made it. Woo-hoo, look out when I finally get to dump dial-up!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, May 11, 2009 - 11:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Sia, you will love it, then you will be used to it and then it will drop and you'll think "deja vu". But you will never go back.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I had kinda given up on this show, but last night there was not much on so I watched the 4th of July episode. Now, being a mom with a kid who loves to dress up all girly, I do not fault kate for bribing the girls to get their hair done. But what was the deal with her not letting her kids eat some strawberries. Now it could have been right before dinner, but if so, they did not show that and Kate just snapped out the order without so much as, "...because dinner will be served soon," or "you can eat strawberries after dinner," or anything kind of nice. Plus it wasn't like strawberries are candy. (Plus i would be so extremely happy if I could ever even get my son to eat one bite of a strawberry. So I may be way biased.)

It is also very sad watching this slice of their life, knowing how very bad it is to get... And I really think it may not bug the 5 year olds, but the older girls, it totally will.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think she didn't want them to eat the strawberries because they get messy and could stain their clothes. It is a bit odd watching now when we have a bit more insight into their marriage.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 2:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
"Jon Gosselin's rumored infidelities have made big headlines in recent weeks -- and now they have the fifth season premiere of 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' running late, as producers scramble to incorporate the couple's marital woes into the series. Yep, Jon is on a roll."

Thia was in an article on the AOL Homepage

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Just got this off Entertainment Online, the Entertainment Tonight web site.

"Jon & Kate Plus 8" mom Kate Gosselin is fighting mad at reports that she's been having an affair with her bodyguard.

"The allegations they're making about me are disgusting, unthinkable, unfathomable, and I am horrified," she tells People. Kate worries because the Gosselins have formed a close bond with bodyguard Steve Neild and his family. "These are people who absolutely love us and want to see us through to the end ... both of them travel with us at times, and we've spent holidays together, because, in this situation, your circle grows smaller and smaller, and it's very natural to become friends with your manager, your publicist, your security team ... they're the only people you have left. And now they're coming under fire."

Kate says the worst part is that they have no control over who their spotlight falls upon. "We opened our world to this," she says. "But we willingly made a conscious decision to put this out there. Our friends and family did not. I had no idea we would potentially take down the people that we love around us."

She adds: "It's like saying, 'Thanks for your support, let me sic the paparazzi on you.' It's very very difficult. It leaves us, essentially, alone and friendless. It's terrible."

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 4:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well then, you do your best to get completely out of the spotlight. And if we use Kate's logic, then are all famous people left alone and friendless? Just doesn't "smell" right.

FWIW, no way do I believe that Kate is having an affair.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I would think that taking a break from the cameras might not be a bad idea.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Wow, I think Kate's denial and apparent cool-as-a-cucumber demeanor on the talk shows has brought out the wolves and sharks. They are going for her jugular with this suspicion of her having an affair as well. Very, very vicious. And timing with her book really stinks. Yes, maybe time to step out of the limelight for a while.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, May 12, 2009 - 10:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
FWIW, has anyone seen her new book? I can't believe there is a market for it? It is like a little photo album of her kids with little captions beneath the photos. No story really at all. It is like something a gramma would love to get of her own grandkids, but would really bore anyone else after a few pages. Just seems like a weird/unusual thing for someone to buy.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 5:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
To each his/her own. I'm amazed at all sorts of things that people buy.

And no, I don't have any of her books. I d/l a sample of the first one but I honestly don't need Bible verses laced through books, just my personal preference.

I'll probably d/l a sample of the new book if it shows up for Kindle.

Could be it is basically a little album that would be enjoyed by those who collect pictures of celebs? Beats me. I't thinking they get lots of email input on what people want.

(Now a coffeetable book of Bonza's Tonks.. that would be nice!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Sea, should it be called, RMAO in Tonkville?

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Regarding the new book, it does not very good reviews on Amazon. 1.5 stars and lots of harsh comments. Basically just like you said Brenda...it is just a picture book with some bible verses sprinkled in apparently. Also, many of the pictures are ones that people have already seen. Here is hte link to Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310318467/ref=s9_subs_gw_s1_p14_t1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-4&pf_rd_r=0KGRGSWNT7X77Z259TGQ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470939031&pf_rd_i=507846

Scroll down to read the reviews. Looks like her first book was very well received and had more of a purpose but it seems this book is more about cashing in on fame. Just my opinion :-)

Ohiomobprincess
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11-07-2003

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ohiomobprincess a private message Print Post    
I'm just sad for the children. They are the innocent ones in all this mess.