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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Unless TLC is still paying Jon, they do not have the right to stop him from doing anything. Does TLC cut Jon a check and does it go to him..or the joint account that Kate controls? It's still wrong to stop him since they edged him out of the show. Is he supposed to just sit home and twiddle his thumbs?

Meanwhile, it's quite okay for Kate to continue with her 15 minutes. I so hope they rule against TLC at this time and let Jon do what he wants.

Kate Gosselin Films for New Show

She hasn't missed a beat. How far is NC from PA?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Cricket...they are both still under contract to TLC. The show she is filming is for TLC.

I'm not sure how far Raleigh, NC is from their home in PA, but I would imagine it's not really any further (or is it farther...don't want to offend anyone LOL) than New York City is.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I so hope they rule against TLC at this time and let Jon do what he wants.

What is it that he wants? All I see him doing is hanging out and becoming friends with the paps. I don't see him trying to actually work at all.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I don't think TLC is trying to stop Jon from doing anything NOW, they're suing for what he was doing for pay while he was still under contract. At least that's how I understand the issue.

Once JON put the kabash on the filming of his children, the show ended. I'm sure even if she was still under contract with TLC, Kate had their permission to seek other offers. She would have been a fool not to, having seen the problems Jon had doing things without their permission.

Bottom line, she continues to find ways to support her kids in the lifestyle they are accustomed to. What is Jon doing to support them? Kate apparently still has 5 or 10 minutes left on her 15 minutes, and if it is truly all about the kids (like so many of us have said we want it to be), then bravo for Kate. Jon's attempts at retaliation against Kate have failed him miserably. Too bad.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
They did not edge him out of the show, or even if one chooses to view it that way, TLC was still going to pay him. He was going to be making money still, but Jon wanted to do things his way and instead cut off his own paycheck with TLC.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
From TMZ

A Maryland judge decided today that TLC's breach of contract case against Jon was strong enough to put a preliminary injunction in place -- which forces Jon to abide by TLC's rules ... or it's his ass. That means no more interviews or appearances without TLC's permission.

TLC honcho Edward Sabin testified against Jon today, saying his recent actions -- like hosting a pool party in Vegas, taking his girlfriend to France and talking to paps outside of his home -- have been "embarrassing."

A rep for TLC tells us, "The Court has validated our view that Mr. Gosselin has a valid, binding contract and that he has breached it repeatedly ... we look forward to the next phase of the litigation, which is to pursue our claim for damages resulting from Mr. Gosselin's numerous breaches."



Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0ZKhL3aPY

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the article Mamabatsy. So in other words, Jon's quest to puff up his chest and pull the kids off of the show because he cares about them so much (very tongue in cheek), are going to take a hell of a lot of money out of the family coffers. Way to go <self mods>.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 5:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
I wonder if that's why Jon didn't show up to court, because his lawyer knew it was a slim chance he'd win this initial battle and told Jon that. Although I can't see Jon passing up an opportunity to talk to the paps afterward even knowing he'd lose this portion of it.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Thanks for that info, Mama.

What I wonder is if he'll soon be crying, "They abused me!"

That seems to be his mantra. Poor Jon. Poor, poor pitiful Jon.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
TLC: Jon Gosselin's Behavior 'Embarrassing'
Posted Dec 10th 2009 12:16PM by TMZ Staff

TLC honcho Edward Sabin is tearing into Jon Gosselin right now in a Maryland court -- claiming Jon's recent behavior has been downright "embarrassing."

Sabin just testified in TLC's breach of contract lawsuit against Jon.

Sabin scoffed at Jon's decision to host a pool party at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas a few months ago ... claiming the network ordered him not to do it because "Jon surrounded by scores of bikini-clad women is inconsistent with the image of our show."

Sabin also ripped Jon for hanging out by the fence outside of his house and chatting with paparazzi, taking his girlfriend on a trip to France with Christian Audigier, and telling people his children were going to model a new clothing line.

Sabin also called out Jon for allegedly breaking his exclusive contract with TLC by accepting money for interviews.

Jon wasn't in court this morning -- but he's expected to show up in about two hours. We'll be there.

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Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I'm glad I didn't have to wait 'til August. LOL

I wonder if there is a morals clause in his contract. If there is, he's definately going to lose.

Thanks for that info, Sea.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Posted Dec 10th 2009 6:00PM by TMZ Staff

A judge confirmed today what we've known all along -- Jon Gosselin is officially a loser.

TLC Muzzles Jon Gosselin

A Maryland judge decided today that TLC's breach of contract case against Jon was strong enough to put a preliminary injunction in place -- which forces Jon to abide by TLC's rules ... or it's his ass. That means no more interviews or appearances without TLC's permission.

TLC honcho Edward Sabin testified against Jon today, saying his recent actions -- like hosting a pool party in Vegas, taking his girlfriend to France and talking to paps outside of his home -- have been "embarrassing."

A rep for TLC tells us, "The Court has validated our view that Mr. Gosselin has a valid, binding contract and that he has breached it repeatedly ... we look forward to the next phase of the litigation, which is to pursue our claim for damages resulting from Mr. Gosselin's numerous breaches."

http://www.tmz.com/

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Aww, poor little Kate. No one seems interested in her 'brand.' Of course, the children want her to sell toys and makeup..sure they do. She doesn't do anything that isn't for her children. Just ask her...she'll tell you.

Gosselin Hoopla May Be Fading

I still don't understand why it's okay for Kate to seek whatever work she wants to support herself and the children, but not Jon. It's just not the way I'm wired, I guess. I have a thing about fairness and what's okay for one should be okay for the other. In my book it's not okay for TLC to give Kate permission to market her 'brand' and tell Jon he can't do interviews. What are they afraid of, anyway?

Goliath most likely will win this case and next year we'll hear Kate and TLC, along with the media, calling Jon a deadbeat Dad. The fact they've tied his hands will be left out.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Keldogg, that was posted already at 3:49 p.m. Ya had me all excited that there was more news...whaaa...


Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Cricket, Jon got production of the show stopped, Kate didn't. Then he blew off his TLC contract before it was severed. Kate didn't.

Kate is apparently being seen as somewhat marketable. Whether that is true remains to be seen. So as long as she couldn't work on the J&K show, and she followed their rules about working despite still being under contract, is between Kate and TLC. They are probably hoping that a judge sees fit for the kids and Kate to resume the show as Kate Plus 8 eventually and want to keep Kate happy. Jon f'd it all up, so if he isn't seen with favor by TLC, tough nookies for him.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
It SHOULD be 100% fair and it is from what I can see. Jon should be able to pursue opportunities within the contract that he signed with TLC until it expires. Just the same as Kate should be free to pursue opportunities within the contract that she signed with TLC until it expires. Exactly fair. Unfair would be Jon allowed to violate the contract and get away with it while Kate has to abide by the rules. Unfair would be denying Kate opportunities because Jon messed up similiar opportunities for himself. Kate started out this divorce as a much hated "monster" (cover page of people magazine) and Jon the beloved victim. Jon has worked hard to mess up his reputation, it's taken him months and months. It wouldn't be fair to deny him the fruits of that labour.

Goliath is going to win because David acted like a child and violated a legal agreement that he signed. Should Goliath lose just because he's bigger regardless of the law? That would be unfair too.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Jon has worked hard to mess up his reputation

This really is so true. The public was largely behind him when they split. Jon was seen as a sympathetic character, someone very likable. I wonder if he even realizes how much he messed that up. He cancels the show we all love in a tantrum-like manner and acts like a teenager with a weekend pass. He really played his cards all wrong. I have to wonder if he tried to work with TLC at all, or just worked against them from the get go.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
oooops, sorry Hukd!

Kathyb
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05-17-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kathyb a private message Print Post    
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/news
/gosselin-kids-dont-believe-in-santa-claus-20091012


After a rough, rough year for the eight Gosselin kids -- their parents Jon and
Kate Gosselin will divorce imminently and their hit reality show is no more --
at least they can look forward to a visit from ol' Saint Nick come Dec. 25.
Well, not exactly.

"They don't believe in Santa Claus," a Gosselin pal reveals of 9 year-old twins
Mady and Cara and 5 year-old sextuplets Alexis, Hannah, Aeden, Collin, Leah and
Joel. "Mady and Cara ruined it for the sextuplets," the source explains, "and
told them a few years ago that Santa wasn't real, and that their presents come
from Mommy and Daddy."

Sadly, the holiday anti-cheer has also spread to little ones outside the
family's Wernersville, Penn. compound, the source reports: "The sextuplets are
the ones at school who tell the other kids there's no Santa Claus."

Whether or not the eight kids leave out cookies for Santa, Christmas season has
arrived at the Gosselin home: the transitioning brood has set up a twelve-foot
tree, decorated with white lights and a big star on top, in the family room at
the back of the house.

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 8:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
LOL That sounds about right. If I recall, first grade was about when my girls lost the faith as well. And as much as you tell the older ones to keep it to themselves.. it never does work out that way. Calling it anti-cheer is a bit much, not sure what believing in Santa Claus has to do with enjoying Christmas.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Brenda...well said!

It's so sad when the big siblings tell the little siblings, isn't it? I think my youngest knew his whole life.

Fortunately for me, they all knew how to pretend. :-)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
As a bigger sibling I knew better than to tell my younger sibling there was no Santa. I still wanted presents! The rule at our house was: if you don't believe, you don't get a gift.

As the parent of a second grader, I've overhead the kids talking and many are still true believers! The doubts are creeping in, as they are for a 3rd grader I know as well. I'd be pretty angry at an older sibling for ruining the magic.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I grew up with my moms younger sister (she was only 5 years older than me) and she took great delight in telling me and sis when we were about 6 and 4. We just decided that went along with the rest of her meanness and ignored her, lol.

When Caleb stopped believing, we had a chat about how he shouldn't ruin Santa for other kids. Luckily for us, he took an even bigger delight in helping us out with Santa. He loves to tell the younger ones that he's heard Santa's sleigh bells on Christmas eve and reminds them they need to go to bed early. He was so convincing last year that when one of his buddies was here, the buddy waited til the girls went to another room then asked, "You don't really still believe in Santa do you????"

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Sea (and everyone else), the $60,000 I mentioned above is for a divorce with attorneys. I should have included that info. With all the legal fees associated with the divorce, Jon's $43,000 attorney fee plus his legal costs for his breach of contract lawsuit, his counter suit and all their regular legal fees (Kate probably has a business lawyer) the two of them don't have nearly as much money left from the income from the show as some probably think they have or should have. And I only mentioned legal fees and private school tuition (if that is the case).

"Unless TLC is still paying Jon, they do not have the right to stop him from doing anything."

I don't think that is correct. I think it depends on when his contract is up. If he is still under contract, he legally has to abide by that.

"Does TLC cut Jon a check and does it go to him..or the joint account that Kate controls?"

Anything paid to Jon after their date of separation is separate property and would go to Jon alone. If he decided to put any money into a joint account himself, then that was his decision to do so. Probably both J&K are obligated to put some money into some type of joint account to pay certain expenses concerning their kids and the family home. But any money earned by Jon after the date of separation would go to him not directly into an account that both J&K control...unless Jon chose to have it go to a joint account, which I doubt he would do.

"It's still wrong to stop him since they edged him out of the show. Is he supposed to just sit home and twiddle his thumbs?"

It is my impression that Jon initiated not doing the show anymore by his choice. I don't think TLC edged him out. I thought that after he said he wouldn't be doing the show anymore that TLC offered to still pay him his regular salary (until his contract was up) and not require him to be on the show...or at least on the show very much. I think staying home twiddling his thumbs would be better for him and the kids than galavanting around with different women and giving loads of interviews to the paps. I'd rather he pursue some type of legitimate job to provide for his kids though.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, December 10, 2009 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I saw something about Marysville OH on wikipedia and also saw this: "Kate lives in Wernersville, Pennsylvania with her children, although she stays in Marysville, Ohio while Jon is with the children.[citation needed]" (http://www.answers.com/topic/kate-gosselin) I have not heard anything about this before.

For Cricket, Raleigh (where Kate filmed recently) is 400 miles from the home in PA.