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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 2:27 pm
I'm just wondering who's been watching the kids this week because both Jon and Kate have been plastered all over my TV! Last night on Showbiz tonight they had a thing about who was being the bigger hypocrit. They voted and decided Kate was.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 2:40 pm
i loved that skit! when she gave the guy the 'spit bath' i just died! LOL
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 2:46 pm
My understanding is that Mrs Gosselin has had custody of the children during all this. Last week, Jon shut down taping on the show when he was with the kids, then flew of to do the interviews. Who had the kids during that time? I don't know what the schedule is or who has the kids for how long. It's very confusing. What IS clear is that the birthday time AND this weekend were specifically under Kate's domain, neither one is disputing that.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 2:57 pm
My understanding is that Jon taped interviews and worked after his time with the children was over. Jon was, I think, in NYC when Mrs Gosselin went to NYC to do her Today Show interview, phone into The View to complain that her children couldn't go to the Statue of Liberty because the show was shut down (even though Mrs Gosselin herself was in NYC and might have been able to see the Statue from her hotel room), and attend Ms Walters' fĂȘte for Ms Shepherd.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 4:27 pm
Kate's in a conundrum. Let the TV Show (I haven't seen verification of this anywhere and don't know if I completely trust TMZ) film and put money in her bank account or put a halt to it. For those that feel it's best for the girls if both Kate and Jon weren't in the same room @ the same time, since Kate is the reason for this after her accusations this week, if she truly cared for her children's happiness SHE would step out. That hasn't even crossed her mind; rather it's Jon who must not be there. What can he do in 2 hours? Nothing. It would be silly to have two birthday parties. Kate said @ the time of the separation that she would just force herself to get along with Jon during family holidays and parties for the sake of the children. This is the first birthday since the split and she's proving herself to be a liar.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Why would Kate step out when it's her designated time with the kids? That doesn't make much sense to me. I can see if it was Jon's designated time and her stepping out, but not when it's hers. I don't think it would prove Kate to be a liar. I think many of us can say what we might do when we're not in the situation, but if someone is making it a point to blatantly assassinate your character, acting like an archenemy, and doing whatever they can to possibly destroy your life financially as well as character-wise I don't think we'd want to be in the same room with them either, especially when it's very fresh and just happened. I mean lets be honest here, most people would not be around a person that doesn't like them or that they don't like, especially when dastardly deeds are being done against them. I can see her still having Jon around if his behavior was just left at him publicly jumping from one 22 year old to the next, boning the nannies and all of that, but when someone ultimately betrays you and messes with your livelihood, I'm sorry, it's just not realistic or honest to say I'd want to be in the same place as that person. Not to mention I don't think it's the healthiest environment for kids.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 5:00 pm
Jon picked up a cake that he ordered, for the twins...all filmed "exclusively" by Entertainment Tonight. He talks about buying the cake for his kids and the separate celebrations...unfortunately, he (or whoever ordered the cake)spelled Mady's name incorrectly. Of course, while picking it up, he has to talk about how Kate is splitting up the family. Wonder how much he got paid for this?
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 5:19 pm
You know, this is no longer sad it's actually pretty funny. I'm beginning to think these 2 are a perfect match. I've typed this before but this will make lists of the messiest and nastiest divorces and this is just the beginning.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 5:24 pm
if she truly cared for her children's happiness SHE would step out. That hasn't even crossed her mind; rather it's Jon who must not be there. What can he do in 2 hours? Nothing. It would be silly to have two birthday parties. Why in the world would it be silly? My son gets 2 birthday parties, one with each of his parents. I would tend to think that happens with a lot of divorced/seperated families. Why is it up to HER to leave?? She is already giving him time...only 2 hours you say?? well I would expect the girls were in school today and then they possibley have to eat dinner...so 2 hours for each parent to celebrate is not out of line, especially since kids tend to go to bed early.. and she's proving herself to be a liar Thats crap! Good intentions don't make a person a liar.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 7:31 pm
It's silly because it's their first birthday they have to share. They aren't even legally divorced yet and Kate is the one who said she would NOT share them on Holidays and Birthdays, ie., if it wasn't her time with them, she would be there regardless, which is fine, but why shouldn't Jon get the same consideration? What if the sextuplets birthday's happen to fall during Jon's custody. Does anyone honestly think Kate would stand for Jon telling her she can have two hours with them? I don't think so. What I think is ridiculous is they are going against everything they 'said' would happen when they announced their divorce. Yes, this will happen eventually, but it's just too soon. Kate is making a huge mistake by getting Jon off the show and writing e-mails to him limiting his time on the twin's birthday, when she knows the public will hear of it. She needs to go with the flo for now and not make her control moves so very quickly. She said it wasn't her decision to lessen Jon's airtime, but she wasn't against the decision when it was made. Yeah..I believe that.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 7:40 pm
I think in time they can be more civil at family functions. But at this point there is so much anger they cant see what is right or wrong. It maybe silly but 2 birhtday parties would be better then having the one ruined by the parents fighting.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, October 08, 2009 - 7:52 pm
Apparently they were both there for the birthdays annd Jon got to spend more than 2 hours...but I'm sorry to you Jonsupporters...his interview made him sound like a little boy whose favorite toys were taken away by his Mommy..."She can't tell me what to do...she can't always get her way...I'm a man...hear me roar (okay, I added the last part)." I think they both need some serious work..she needs to work on her control issues and he needs to learn how to be a mature man and not a little irresponsible child.
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Mictay
Member
09-29-2006
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 2:20 am
Jon came out and talked to the paps after the party?????I question his intentions,why did he need to go talk to the paps after??
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 4:38 am
Talking to the paparazzi is Jon's way of venting and showing how cool he is.Or how cool he thinks he is.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 6:50 am
..or I suppose Jon talks to the paparazzi in a sort of honest yet misguided attempt to use the media to have his say on the J&K topics de jour. When Kate wants to say something, there are carefully worded releases from TLC, or Kate's "people"... Jon doesn't seem to have the benefit of "people" that edit and then release his words.. Talking to the paps is probably a bad idea, but this whole situation is full of bad ideas..
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 6:54 am
Not knowing how the party went, it is my prayer that the girls had a good time and the parents were civil to one another.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 8:49 am
Jon talked to the paps because as TMZ put it, the paps are his BFFs. LOL Looks like Jon Gosselin won the birthday battle against Kate -- because instead of leaving at 6pm, he just told us he'll be staying 'til he can "put my kids to bed." After the celebration, Jon came out to get some face time with his BFFs, the paps -- saying he and Kate made it "cordial" for the twins on their birthday ... and there's no way he'd be spending the night. Probably a wise decision. Well at least they made it work.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 8:53 am
What I don't understand is how come, according to Jon, putting the kids on TV is bad for them when it comes to "Kate Plus 8," but it's not bad and is completely good and healthy to have them on Entertainment Tonight or any other TV show that he wants to do? I really don't get it. How can one show be wrong and another show, a tabloid show, be right. That's confusing to me. I'd genuinely like to understand his logic and understand how he rationalizes that from his perspective.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 9:25 am
I think what Jon is saying that in the past he did not think it was bad for them. He now feels it is bad for them. Hey, we all bathe our children when they are little and we don't think it's bad for them, but when they reach a certain age you stop bathing them, because you feel it is no longer appropriate. I don't see why this is any different? When they were babies and toddlers, and up until this point, he felt it was ok, he now thinks that it's no longer appropriate. He is no longer, since his announcement putting them on any TV shows that I'm aware of..
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 9:38 am
Kelli, as I understand it, Jon is pursuing deals with ET to film the children - including getting money to have them outside the house for the party (apparently he had a plan to have the kids outside which did not materialize), and filming him buy the cake (with the misspelled name).
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 9:41 am
Karuuna, what is the source of this information? That Jon pursuing deals?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:27 am
Kelli, there was an article in this thread, and then several other online articles with variations. And the place that made the misspelled cake said it was ordered by "Entertainment Something". And ET showed up to film him picking up the cake as well.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:48 am
Kelli, I see your point, but I'm saying why now does Jon feel it's not appropriate for the kids to do "Kate Plus 8," but he is okay with "Entertainment Tonight" shadowing him and the kids and having them filmed by ET. Even ET mentioned it last night that they have an exclusive on their show when they showed him and the kids; they said something like "as only ET is along with Jon and the kids for their birthday celebration" (paraphrased). That's what I don't understand. I'd like to know from his perspective what the difference is to him between "Kate Plus 8" and "ET," and any of *his* other film the kids tv ventures. Meaning, why is his tv ventures with the kids is okay, but Kate's tv ventures with the kids is unhealthy for them? I want to know how he rationalizes the difference in his mind. Why is one bad and the other good? Especially given that ET is tabloid tv, I'd just like to know how he figures that one is better. I honestly don't understand.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:52 am
I think those reports of ET getting to film the birthday party itself were a little off. There was a video of Jon describing that Kate would have the first part of the day with the kids, with her own home baked caked, and then Jon would show up later in the day with his store cake. Then there was the tmz report that ET gets to film the party. As a matter of a fact, the only reports I can find are saying it was yesterday that ET was supposed to film the party, and not some future party. All ET got to film exclusively was Jon prepping, traveling and arriving, and filming him when it was over. I think somehow those two stories got mingled together in the TMZ report, and they inaccurately concluded ET was filming the actual party.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:56 am
Do we know that Jon didn't make this arrangement BEFORE he announced he didn't want them on the show? What I read on the ET website was that ET was going to have streaming video of the birthday party, not who made the arrangements, or WHEN the arrangements were made. He could have been approached by ET to do the bit and agreed to it months ago for all we know? He also could have made the arrangement and had control of the content, which he does not have control over with the TLC program.. I'm aware that the spin is currently always that Jon is doing what's good for Jon, but we don't always have all the facts. My point is still as it has always been, that Kate's image is being spun by her handlers and Jon does not have that same type of support. *edited to add: Just read your post Naja.. this sheds some light, thank you, and also points out, that we don't always know all of the facts about what's happening here.
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