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Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 9:50 am
She should have money to survive NOW! I don't buy that she doesn't have any money. I see she's making her way around the networks playing the pity card. This woman is right up there with Jon, no wonder they got married, they are both delisounal (sp?)
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Llwynn
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 9:56 am
I don't really think it matters if she has "other money" or not? THAT money was obviously designated by the arbitrator to pay family expenses. He TOOK the money when he knew he wasn't supposed to. <99> Poor JON. What responsibilities does Jon have right now? Apparently, he isn't even grown up enough to pay the bills.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:00 am
Delusional? LOL. Yes, I'd agree on that one. <99> I'm sorry but if you're making $76,000 an episode and you've sunk all of your money into one bank account, than you need a financial advisor in addition to your lawyer. No way am I buying that they don't have other bank accounts that she can pay bills from. Jon should never have taken that money. But I'm shocked to hear that Kate tried to pull this stunt first, even if it was only half of the money. She's a saint you know.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:02 am
God Love Lisa Ling!! I am losing a lot of respect for Kate. Up til very recently she answered all questions with a lot of honesty (at least I thought so). But to see her dodge Meredith this morning, followed by Lisa with the same question, really took away her "street cred" in my eyes. You know, if she said something like I don't want to give up the big $$ (or whatever HONEST answer she had) I would respect that way more than her "poor pitiful me" card. I think there are TON of people who don't buy what she is selling. (As far as her NEEDING to kids to be on the show to make ends meet.) She just needs to find cheaper ends!! And it is possible!!
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Julieboo
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02-05-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:06 am
I see she's making her way around the networks playing the pity card. I agree. She sure is a good actress. I wonder if I have fallen for her act before as I used to really feel for her. But not after seeing her today. She needs to get her face and her family off of the tabloids.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:11 am
Is it just me or is having $230 K a lot for a checking account ? Even I know that you should let you money grow by earning interest. A little interest better then zero interest. It sure seems that Kate truly needs her brother and his wife < dear Aunt Jody > for at least support at this time. Here's to hoping she can give them a call and renews her relationship with them. I also wonder if she is still on good terms with the couple who once employed Jon and had the very lovely home ?
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Naja
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06-28-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:22 am
From what she explained, it's not a checking account. She writes her checks from her checking account, but she calls the bank and has them move money from their big account to the checking account to cover the checks. That's how she found out the money was gone. She called to make a transfer to checking.
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Tishala
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08-01-2000
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:31 am
Mrs Gosselin has managed to alienate herself from her mother and father, from her brother and sister in law, etc. She just doesn't have a "support structure," so she comes to us as if we were BFFs and unloads her sob stories on us, which is something she wouldn't have to do if she decided to maintain adult relationships. I literally laughed out loud when she said on The View, "the kids don't understand why they can't be in NY right now seeing the Statue of Liberty like they were going to." Mrs Gosselin: it's your duty as a parent to explain it to them in a way they understand--and not for nothing, but lots of kids make it through childhood (and even adulthood) without ever seeing it. I know you've grown accustomed to the perks of fame, but it seems like you have managed to make your children believe it's their entitlement, too. And that's sad.
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Moderator
Moderator
06-29-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 10:38 am
Again and again, posts have had to be moderated in this thread; even after repeated warnings. This is it: If we have to moderate you again for saying something negative about your fellow posters, your account will be suspending immediately for a minimum of 24 hours.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:05 am
I actually can see them not having other money, and certainly without that money Kate is probably unable to pay the bills that are due at the first of the month. Jon claimed on LKL that the entire family, together, make $22,500 per episode. If that's the case then last year, when they shot 40 episodes, they only made 900K. Yes, there is money from other things, such as appearances and Kate's books, but one has to wonder how significant that is. They have to pay taxes on all of that income, which means they only kept about 540K of the 900K. Considering they bought a house AND set up educational accounts for the kids, I would not be surprised if the 230K in that money market account is all the cash they have left. They already suspended filming once this year and with Jon shutting it down again, there is no income. That 230K that Jon took isn't going to last too long with house payments, the payment for the NY place, and the other bills to pay. I think that Kate is exaggerating the immediate effect of the shutting down of the filming on the kids, but, coupled with Jon taking the money with which she is supposed to pay the bills, it will definitely have an impact. I think if they could get the money for this season and if Kate actually gets the talk show up and running and generating income, shutting down the show would not impact Kate's ability to provide for the kids. But that's not the current situation. Like I said, I think she's exaggerating but not necessarily lying about the impact this situation is having financially on the family and that's something that she is right to be concerned about.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:12 am
I wouldn't be surprised OH. Also remember Kate's background. It would not surprise me if she is unfamiliar with anything beyond the basic types of investments and it seems she handled the money. I believe this is the first year that they really started making a significant amount of money so if the divorce hadn't happened then perhaps this is exactly when they would have sat down with a financial planner and started thinking long term with that type of income (probably would have been an episode actually LOL).
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:36 am
One thing that occurred to me when I was thinking about the impact of the show on the kids during the divorce is that they have not, as far as I have seen, ever asked the kids about the divorce during their "interviews". I think that's a good thing, for the most part, but it's also led to this weird situation where Jon and Kate (mostly Kate) are asked about the separation, the changes in their lives,and express sadness or other emotions, but the kids just talk about whatever activity has been "planned". I now realize that it's why the interviews with the adults on the show seem to me to be so disconnected from the actual experiences they show. While I think it would be wrong to expect the kids to address such emotions for the sake of the show, it definitely ends up feeling very fake. On the other hand, it somewhat negates the criticism that the kids are "going through" the divorce on camera, considering they aren't shown going through it at all. It's like the big elephant in the room. I can't decide which is healthier for the kids, being open about it or pretending it doesn't exist.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:38 am
I wish we ONLY made $900,000.00!! In ONE year. That does not include books and appearances and book signings either!!
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:41 am
OH, I believe Kate does talk to the kids about the divorce some (from her interviews, talk shows, etc), although I don't know how much. I'm glad they aren't showing that on the show; but I certainly hope it is going on.
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March
Member
10-02-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:48 am
I am sorry but when someone is making $76,000 an episode you will have a hard time convincing me that you basically living paycheck to paycheck as most working people are. I know $200,000 is a lot of money but again when you are making $76,000 every week, do you really think people are going to believe you are now broke and can't pay the household bills. If thats the case then they need someone to help them work out a more livable budget cause if your bills are more than you bring in it's not going to work. Also I couldn't believe Kates reasons for wanting to keep the show going beyond that fact that she needs the money - it is so that the kids get to go places like that Statue of Liberty, etc. Well WooHoo wouldn't we all like to be able to go places like that. Too bad the rest of us have to pay for those things on our own, with our own money.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:52 am
I don't think 900,000 is a lot for one year in isolation of other factors. Their current house cost 1.2 million? (correct me if I'm wrong) Don't know the equity they had in their last home and I am sure TLC helped fund some of the renos (ie the kitchen) but that still means that virtually every cent from the show (not other incomes) went to the house. At the point that they had paid for the house (I am sure there is no mortgage) THAT'S when the bank account starts to grow and this is the season that it really would have ballooned. ETA: March, they never said they were living cheque to cheque. They had almost a quarter million in the bank until Jon stole it.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:00 pm
There are also agent's fees and various other fees associated with being in the "entertainment" business. I feel really stupid sitting here debating about these people's lives and getting all hot and bothered about it. If I have said anything that irritated another poster I want to apologize...there is no point in being irrational about these people whom we do not know and who really don't care about us or affect our everyday lives...I don't think I would care to live in a fishbowl, no matter how much it paid me per episode.
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:18 pm
Did anyone notice her crying in the first segment on The Today Show about having no money to pay the bills this month, yet in the second segment, she was smiling telling Meredith about the ring she has picked out to replace the wedding ring? "It has 8 diamonds and mother of pearls". For crying out loud!!!! I just wanna go off on her so bad. Kate, take the money out of the equation, as you've already said the children have a substantial savings that is comletely secure. Now, without the $$ as a consideration, do what every other decent parent in the same situation would do which is, sell the house, get a job, file for child support (good luck on getting it tho) and raise your children. In Kate's defense I did read upthread that people were disparaging Kate for taking money out of the account prior to Jon's recent withdrawal but she did indicate that the only reason she did that is she had noticed Jon was already removing money here and there and was afraid of what he was capable of doing, she put it back, and yup, he did as she thought he was going to. Best wishes to her to get it back as easy considering his lawyer said that it was money owed to him and there is more owed. I think this is a much used legal maneuver. A couple of months ago I had posted here that it was inevitable for this whole situation to turn out anywhere near like Kate presents it to be. The whole "This is the kidses house" (Kate's wording lol) and we will share weeks was absolutely the most insane plan ever hatched. I don't know of any mother that would agree to such a hair-brained scheme unless there was an ulterior motive like maybe thinking that this might bring Jon might realize he really did love her and made a horrible decision. We hear her moaning and groaning to the cameras, to her children "Shoot the paparazzi", and the drawbacks of notoriety but in another breath, "The children will be upset if the show stops." Such the contracition. I don't believe anything either of them as to say. I do not think for a second she is broke, I think she's become very greedy and is on a sympathy kick and looking for more loot! lol
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:20 pm
I just watched the video of Mrs Gosselin on The Today Show. Yikes. First, I love that she used the word "agreeance." I remember when Fred Durst got raked over the coals for using that obsolete bastardization of "agreement." (And doesn't she kvetch about her husband not speaking well?) Then, I love that she kept saying, "I never wanted to be here discussing these things" as if she just magically found herself in front of Meredith Viera when she woke up. OF COURSE she wanted to be there discussing it--which is why she was there discussing it. There is absolutely no compulsion to go to NY to appear on an early morning chat show, just as the story didn't make it to the tabloids because of anything except that Mrs Gosselin or her people decided to put it out there and she wants to stoke public indignation. It makes me every bit as grossed out to see her behave this way as I felt when Jon was parading around with his lady friends. They are like moths to flames; if there is a camera and a microphone, they can't stop themselves from speaking or being photographed and trying to elicit whatever emotion they crave at the minute. Unfortunately, at this point, the only thing they elicit from me is disgust.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:31 pm
Hmm, TMZ is reporting that they do have a mortgage on this house to the tune of 720,000 and that they haven't sold their first house. Would love to know how much money is in the kids account. It's got to be a significant amount or where the heck did all their income go?
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Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 12:53 pm
Well if it's a 1.2 million dollar house and the mortgage is 720K, AND they haven't sold their first house, then 500K went to the downpayment on the house. As for Kate not wanting to be there discussing these things, I don't see anything contradictory in her saying that. Does one want to be on TV defending herself against charges of exploiting her kids? Because that's why she's there. Jon's public story was that he shut down the filming on the show for the good of the children, who were being exploited by TLC. These charges were made publicly and, while many questioned Jon's motives, many people agreed that shutting down the filming would be the right thing to do. Kate is then forced to defend her decisions publicly. She has to show that Jon's motivations were not the welfare of the children, as demonstrated by his taking of the money, and that not only does she need the money from the show but that the children aren't being harmed by it. She gives the example that they enjoy shooting because they get the opportunity to see and do things that they wouldn't be able to otherwise and that, when the plans were disrupted, the kids are disappointed. She's making her case that the show is not exploiting the kids but giving them opportunities. You can agree or disagree with her arguments, but she has to make them if she has any hope of salvaging a life that doesn't involve trying to support a family of 9 on a nurse's salary.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:01 pm
Sorry, but I don't see Mrs Gosselin as "forced" to do anything--anymore than she is "forced" to continue the show on TLC. It's a choice she has made, for better or worse. She can always choose not to feed stories, either directly or through her people, about her husband allegedly taking $200K from their banking account, but she chooses instead to put every bit of dirty laundry out there. She has to show that Jon's motivations were not the welfare of the children, as demonstrated by his taking of the money, and that not only does she need the money from the show but that the children aren't being harmed by it. Mercifully, this is something others demonstrate in court, not on early morning chat shows. It is also the kind of thing one normally shares with one's family and best friends, but we know Mrs Gosselin is estranged from her family, so that might not be possible.
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Naja
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06-28-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:06 pm
Jon is claiming he only took 22,000 this past week. (total 177,000 total over the course of a year). He also is claiming Kate is hiding money. According to Jon, Kate's claims are "a total fabrication" and that he "withdrew $22,000 last Thursday" and has "the paper trail to prove it." He goes on to say, "I've never taken any money out because over 10 years, Kate handled all the banking. Over the past four years of doing the show, we accrued $2,250,000. She says in the past week I took $230,000. I have withdrawn roughly $177,000 over the course of a year, which is less than 10 percent of what we made. That's like my paycheck." On why Kate would make these claims, "I believe she's incriminating herself and not thinking clearly. She's wanting me to look bad." Jon goes on to say he doesn't believe Kate is having trouble paying her bills, which she stated on the "Today" show this morning. "She's hiding money," he claims. "We have 11 bank accounts. That was just our joint account. She had a best-selling book. Where's that million dollars?" http://www.theinsider.com/news/2892881_Jon_Gosselin_Kate_Is_Hiding_Money
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:18 pm
I saw these claims this morning and it just blows me away. Can't speak to the factual aspect of the numbers but: He says he took 10% of the GROSS so I guess he figures he is too good for the taxes. Then you can take out the 50% that went to the house (depending on whether the mortgage numbers reported are accurate) which I guess he figures also shouldn't come out of his *salary*. Then you subtract what was put away for his children which some reports are saying is well into the 6 figures. Guess he thinks that should come out of Kate's half as well. On top of that is their annual family budget (food, utilities, etc). If he truly believed Kate was stealing money he would have his pitbull attorney on her in the media in a flash weeks ago. As always Jon comes up with excuses AFTER he gets caught acting inappropriately. I think both sides are just posturing the heck out of this and we won't know what the truth is until the judge speaks. PS Out of curiousity, what is the tax rate in the US for a 2 million plus income?
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 1:46 pm
I don't believe anything that comes out of Kate's mouth as 100% truth. She's taken her reality show persona and has gone over the top. She's now the broke single mom who can't pay her bills. She was in NY doing the Today show she should have taken the kids to the Statue of Liberty then. or explain to the kids that for the next while they aren't getting free trips anymore and the Statue of Liberty will have to be worked into the family budget along with other family trips. I can't wait till the courts finalize this divorce.
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