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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 7:23 pm
"Sell the multimillion dollar house" They're paying the same amount in mortgage that they are for Jon's NYC apartment. At least with the mortgage, they're getting equity, and a house with enough room for the children. Maybe he could scale down a little?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 7:50 pm
Well heck yeah, if his apt is that expensive, then scale that down too. (But Jon is not the one saying his kids will starve...)
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 9:31 pm
Even though both Kate & Jon has been publicly throwing those figures around, we still don't know enough of any truth to make any judgement on their financial affair. Close to one mil is what they've make the past year. 2.2 mil is not per year but the total income over their 4-yr show biz life.--For all ten of them. But we weren't told if that figure was before or after tax. $5,000 rent plus $1,000 (car payment or something?) is the minimum Jon needs to live in NYC. Jon said he'd only taken $22,000 out over the weekend. Kate said she has paper trail to prove that Jon has withdrawn $230,000 between Aug. 10th and Sept. 29th. Jon on the other hand claims to have paper trails to prove how he'd roughly taken $177,000 over the whole past year! I don't usually watch and agree with the showbiz talking heads, but really, at this time, I am no longer interested at their money woes. I'm just a poor church mouse who would have to spent roughly three to four life-times to make 2.2 mil gross. I know they don't make nearly as much, or as crazy an income, as other super stars, but the point used to be, they were like one of us! We dint watch them for the super-star quality. I am not the judge, I'm not tptb at TLC. The judge will decide how the money matters should be dealt with and the TLC boss would decide if or not the show will go on. But I am left with sadness about the kids. One day in the very near future they will be reading about this whole debacle. Eeeek! If we think we are confused about he said, she said, what will those kids have to deal with when they have to learn about this side of their parents? At least we have the luxury to decide if we'd want to watch it like a circus, critique it like the human race depends on it or not even care to touch it with a ten foot pole!
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 9:51 pm
Oh Chy, what a good post..... just one other 'Church mouse' here.... 'at least 'poor mouse' ..... I rarly watch this show but figure that thier 'filthy poor' would be my 'filthy rich'..... I have other things to worry about then their money probs.... (its all getting old)..
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 9:54 pm
but the point used to be, they were like one of us! We dint watch them for the super-star quality. Excellent point!
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Monday, October 05, 2009 - 11:13 pm
For someone who claims to be taking the high road, Kate needs to stay out of the limelight. I also agree that Jon does too. Do they not have an inkling as to what all this is doing to their kids. For people who keep saying that everything they do is for the kids.....they sure aren't acting that way.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:51 am
Both had interviews but then Jon went out to The Ivy (or however it might be spelled) and schmoozed with the paparazzi and smirked in public, so I'd say he's taking it to another level (and that is speaking of the last two days, current events. Bizarre indeed, though small potatoes compared to what some celeb couples contend they must have to survive each month (in a divorce action).
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:54 am
But this time she doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So now it looks like she is painting herself into a bad corner... (feed her kids my butt!! Have fun at the party in NYC!!) You connected the dots, Julieboo. Kate is doing herself in. She must be panic stricken that Jon has the right to stop her from living in the way she has become accustomed. I can't sleep tonight and just saw Jon on ET, where he has a bank statement showing he only took out $22,000. I think the bank will be able to discern where that money went and if Kate is making up stories, she is going to be one sorry gal. She can't feed her children on $1,000.00? How awful that must sound to truly poor single mothers and families. The last thing I would do is jet off to NY if I was soooo worried about my children.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:00 am
Seamonkey, re the "her bills" Jon stated that both he and Kate are to each give $7,500 for the monthly bills. He said he's been paying his $75,000. Not sure if that's what you meant. I think he's tired of being portrayed as she is portraying him. Yes, he's made huge mistakes, but he seems to be coming around. To me (and I could be wrong) it seems that Kate is the type that must run and tattle...hence, her phone call to the View. Why is the View and the Today Show even getting in the middle of all this? They aren't helping anything. Jon saying that Cara and Maddy were the two most upset by the divorce, with the little ones not really realizing what was going on was telling. He said Maddy said she'd been seeing it coming. I wonder if that is part of the reason she's been so moody the last year or two. I feel so bad for these girls having this played out in public. It's just wrong on both parents' sides. Lastly, Kate overplayed her hand when she described, "sobbing and wailing" by the children when told the show wouldn't go on at this time. Way too dramatic.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 6:36 am
RFLOL I love Nancy Grace. Perhaps what this situation needs is for both Jon and Kate to be locked in a room with her until someone cries Uncle. This whole thing is laughable if it wasn't for the kids. They started out as two unlikeable people and they have morphed into two differently unlikeable people. Cannot ONE of them just keep quiet? Kate was doing so well for awhile but has fallen off the wagon and Jon hasn't figured out where to find the wagon yet. Every time they open their mouths they just show the world how shallow they are.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 6:37 am
Sea, you must have watched a different show than me. I have never seen Jon "smirk". He seems open faced and candid to me when he talks in interviews. What I have seen is Kate faux crying several times (and not a very good acting job either!) and the little catch in her voice always makes me chuckle as it just comes across as so staged and contrived to garner pity. She always has to be so dramatic with the words too, as in her disclosure to Meredith re the kids' reaction to the show being temporarily halted: "There was times eight wailing and sobbing!" Bwaaahahhhah and pfftttt. Suffice to say "The kids got upset!"
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 6:51 am
(Just read your post Cricket--didn't see it when I posted mine above--great minds think alike, huh? LOL)
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:06 am
I cannot bring myself to think positively of Jon. I don't think Kate is a saint, but I do think she's doing the best she can. Jon is acting like a playboy.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:18 am
Anytime I have seen Kate cry on camera I could always see the tears welling up in her eyes just before she'd blot at them. That is exactly the same way I cry. I never let them course down my face.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:35 am
She's acting when she faux cries. It's a set up for her to garner more favor from the public. She's not a bad actress, she's been at it for 4 years but the crying needs work. She hasn't got the crying emotion down, yet. I think she's starting to falter with her poor me routine when she comes out crying poor and having a hard time feeding her kids, well, it's just a bit much. We she her lifestyle and it's a bit insincere for her claim hardship. She was hoping to make Jon look even worse than he's done all on his own. At the end of this all the kids will eventually watch every interview and see how much their parents hate each other....that's never a good thing for "the kids'. Very sad.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:46 am
Good post Chy. It really is a bit sickening to hear how they both seem to have adapted so quickly to the life of spend and spend and spend. It is a sad day when you can't feed your kids on $1000. I'm thinking maybe what she really meant is "how can I feed my kids and still have money to tan and get my hair and nails done?" I finally was able to watch the clip of her on the view, talking about how she'd wake up at night when the kids were babies, wondering how they'd pay bills. What amazes me is that instead of saving and saving and only spending within your means, they have wracked up a lot of debt so she's essentially kept herself in that same position. I think she's really counted on being able to have the kids on TV forever bringing in a paycheck! Does she not realize that TV shows get cancelled all the time and the people on them are instantly out of work? I honestly believe Jon more than I believe Kate and I feel this way because I think he's just dimwitted -- probably not even smart enough to manipulate and lie. But I think she's very crafty and manipulative. Those poor, poor kids.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:50 am
(Just read your post Cricket--didn't see it when I posted mine above--great minds think alike, huh? LOL) Yes, Holly, we must be thinking alike, because I saw anger and hurt in Jon's face in his last interview. I think both he and Kate are surprised where this decision to divorce have taken them and Jon has acted like a teenager dating for his first time sometimes, but I do believe he has been woken up. I feel he is shocked when he becomes the subject of Kate's pity seeking and is now fighting back. Great post, Lilfair. It is indeed very sad what this has become and like Rissa said, if not for these children, this would be like watching a tennis match and we could laugh @ these two foolish people, but 8 little lives are being affected so the parents need to act like adults and quit airing their dirty laundry in public. Having said that, Jon alluded to something he could expose and asked Kate to stop this before it came to that. Hmmm...I wonder if she heard that and might back off. I know Kate has her hands full, but what I see in her is someone who doesn't like being told "No" and Jon told her "No" when he stopped production. I guess the courts and TLC will have to decide if she will have to accept "No" this time.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:51 am
I think it's fake crying too. I think she's trying to play the sympathy card and it's failing miserably. I think if she had tried to play the anger card it might have come across a bit better. If he did take more than his fair share of money and leave her with bills that are coming due, she'd have every right to be mad, MAD! That would ring honest and true to me. But the poor pitiful me, we can't eat, we can't go to the statue of liberty stuff just rings false.
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Llwynn
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 8:54 am
Wow. It is funny how people see things so differently. You wouldn't know we were all observing the same thing. I have always thought Kate was just one strong woman trying to raise her family. I live paycheck to paycheck. Don't know if Kate has money or not, but I do think that nothing Kate has done even comes close to the way Jon has acted since they announced the divorce. It seems funny to me in this society the way we glorify a man being a "playboy" after a divorce and we beat down a woman trying to pick up the pieces of her family. Every interview Jon has done since the divorce has come across to me as phony and self centered. I just see Kate as a woman trying to do the best she can for herself and her children, day to day after their world changed forever. Just MHO.
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 9:08 am
I think Kate's sadness is very real. A divorce is like a death, it's the end, the end of something which held great promise. No matter how acrimonious the divorce, I'm sure there is great sadness on both sides. Kate looks at the divorce not only as the end of great promise, but her personal failure. Jon is, I'm sure, saddened, but also he's acting in a totally inappropriate way, or was, until he acquired this new lawyer.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 9:26 am
Oh Llwynn, I don't think anyone is glorifying Jon's "playboy" act. He has indeed acted immaturely on several occasions this past year. It is funny though how we see things differently. I see Kate as the one who is phony, self-centered, crafty and manipulative. I am glad to see him sticking up for himself now. When he was asked yesterday about Kate's comment re how she keeps hoping 'the old Jon comes back', he stated that no, he will never go back and all she wants is a slave. I think it summed up well the way their relationship was. She cracked the whip and he jumped. But no more.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 9:52 am
I think they are both behaving like many couples do when divorcing. The difference is there is more money and more kids involved, and they are both choosing to play it out in the public eye. Neither one can claim the high road, IMHO.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:32 am
What is this "lifestyle" that Kate has become so addicted to? The lifestyle of hanging out with D list celebrities? No, that's Jon. The lifestyle of partying it up in an apartment in NYC? No, that's Jon. The lifestyle of jetsetting to France? No, that's Jon. What, exactly, is Kate being accused of doing with this money? Providing the most comfortable home possible for herself and her children? Shame on her. She should be happy to be scraping along like the rest of us. I think Kate DID take the high road for a long time. She repeatedly refused to air her grievances publicly. Jon, on the other hand, spoke to reporters when Kate called the police to get into the house that Jon had locked her out of. Jon spoke to reporters, blaming Kate, when the dogs were returned to the breeders. Jon made a huge, public production about proclaiming his "epiphany" about how his children were being exploited. While I think that Kate was most likely still manipulating things privately and trying to get the most advantageous divorce settlement (as anyone should in this situation!) Jon is the one that has repeatedly accused her of things in public, such as having an affair with the bodyguard and being an abusive wife. It's only in this mess, that Kate has begun airing more of her interpretation of things.
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Llwynn
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 10:40 am
Very well said Onlyhuman!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:02 am
Well, Onlyhuman, Kate has a 'celebrity' lawyer, so I guess she thinks she's a real celebrity. She certainly was too good to drive in a brand new SUV and wanted a limo instead...celebrity actions. I've seen her accuse Jon of many things, such as right now, she's accusing him of stealing money. At least today, they are saying, 'allegedly.'
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