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Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
News and Views,ok ok ok ,now hush..

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
ABC had ads for a CBS show? Weird.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
roflol!

and for the record - I was comparing 2 shows - that has to be on topic of Jon and Kate - and I so appreciate the opinions - even when OT - it reminds me of a big room of friends gathering -

guess its time to head over to the meet thread to see if there are any meets scheduled!

JON AND KATE? really!! I dont see Kate giving up ANY holidays - it will be here way or the highway - can you imagine her sharing her kids at Christmas?

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
Just saw on The Insider that Jon is supposedly writing a tell-all book about Kate and the bodyguard...Guess now he can have a book tour, too.

Serenity
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06-28-2005

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serenity a private message Print Post    
Jon's "tell all" book is in the best interest of his children I suppose...sheesh.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Lurk, you're right about the "No nannies" part.
I was just trying to stress that he wasn't totally alone. There was a big AA bodyguard w/him by the front gate when adoring fans and paps flocked on Jon. There was also a young AA girl being friendly with Jon by the garage door. He wasn't completely alone.

Cricket, I know you said you don't read much rags on J&K. In May when rumor of Jon @ Date first reared the heads, uncle Kevin & aunt Jodi was right there kindly filling us in with "insights". Many of the "stories" that are around today were from their Podcast then. From things like Kate didn't want counseling; Kate told Jon six months ago it's all over @ kicked him out; little kids(turned out to be once one of the six) complained about cameras in their faces; ... all the way to how Jon felt being treated unfairly by the media, claiming that every one is focusing on his bar-hopping, girl-hugging but ignoring the : Dun-dun-dunhhhhh (whispering gospel) the closeness Kate developed with the gray-haired bodyguard!

I don't know if unc. Kevin & aunt Jodi feels vindicated now that Jon & Kate are divorcing. But I will never believe them 100%. For one thing, if Jon really had a suspicion about that BG, he won't have still been guarding Kate then, won't you think??

I think all those put-Kate-down-talk by Kev & Jo could be found on radar something, that same site that was keeping every one informed regarding the mother of octuplets ~~ nuff said??

Nhmomof3, welcome! I'm not sure I'll be in this thread much, but hopefully I'll see you around the tvch.

Finally, I've talked about this before, I started out being in Jon's corner! I am the misfit around my husband's family. I am the one here(this side of the pc screen) who doesn't speak eloquently. I am the one here who doesn't know how everything in this society works. I am the one who's over-ruled by husband and in laws on every issue from what color to paint the wall to what courses my girls should be taking. For a long time I was cheering Jon on and seeing all kinds of "qualities" of my in laws in Kate.

When the "girl friend" issue first creeped up, I was looking for excuses for Jon. I could see innocently bar-hoping with female friends, I could see innocently inviting female friends to sun bath in your huge yard. I don't even believe there was anything with Dr. Glassman's daughter except the fact that she is also 23 y.o.! I could even over-look the girl driving an in-coherent Jon home. But Jon getting out of the girl's apt early in the morning????

Then I started to re-watch old epies. Every one said Jon is a good stay-at-home dad. I don;t know. I see him reluctantly taking kids around town for errands like picking up sick puppy from the vet. grudgingly heating-up food Kate had cooked and portioned. Many times it seems he will go out of his way to do what Kate & he had agreed on not to do~~ Stuff like when to watch TV and no junk food/sweets between meals come to mind. .... I'm too tired to go on, but you got the gest.

I still like some parts of Jon and still do not think I will ever be-friend someone like Kate. But c'mon! Kate is not the evil/the reason/the main cause .... that the marriage doesn't work. The way many seemed to think Kate deserves the fall and Jon deserves his freedom at the same time and about the same happening is just very strange to me! I will have to try harder not to come and read any more!

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Tish...ABC had ads for a CBS show?
No. Just as I tuned in someone asked Obama about "Big Brother" and health care and Obama said he understood the fear of "Big Brother". Then I tuned out.
Just thought it was funny, that is all.


Jon and Kate.}

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
BTW, another telling thing for me was when Jon won't even follow the vet's instruction for Nola after a surgery! Doesn't matter if Nola came out of it completely fine. Draw your own conclusions, but I don't wonder why Kate ended up saying stuff like: I don't trust your judgement!

My husband insisted on changing diapers a certain way until I totally released him from that duty! Yet he went around proudly told his friends how his daughter was 3 y.o. and he had only had to changed the diapers three times! I do remember yelling at him: I don't trust the way you clean her!
Good thing no one heard me but him.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

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Does anyone know why they used invitro so quickly into their marriage? My math could be wrong but it sounds like they started invitro within the first year. I'm just curious as usually most couples try naturally for awhile before jumping into something that expensive.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
She used fertility treatment to get pregnant because she was initially unable to conceive, due to Polycystic Ovary Syndrome.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

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I saw that Serate!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Figures YOU would Merrysea!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I saw it, too! ;-)

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Clarification on the book someone mentioned Jon was writing. If definitely was a rumor out there but apparently the rumor has been squashed. See link below. No book

http://www.etonline.com/news/2009/06/75667/

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I guess I just didn't have 2nd thoughts soon enough! Ya'll are too quick for me!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Hmmm I went to check out this story about Jon writing a book, as it would have me re-thinking my opinion of him. All The Insider has up is a statement that he is NOT writing a book, and only wants to focus on his kids.

http://www.theinsider.com/news/2303096_Is_Jon_Gosselin_Writing_a_Book

I did, however, notice that Kate has a tell all sounding interview coming out in People though. I still say actions speak louder than words. And IF Kate has something going on w/the BG I think he would stay as his leaving would make them look guilty.

Serate, I missed it grrrrrr just see empty walls.

ETA I coulda saved all tht typing Kells lol. Glad to see some of us care about facts here at least!

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Also found this poll on etonline. Very telling

Do you think Jon & Kate should continue their reality show?

Yes, many couples can relate and it might help them

14%
No, it's too personal and no longer appropriate

82%
Maybe they should each get their own show

4%

The numbers are shown below the answer so 82% say NO

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

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Ok after this post I plan to be Gosslin free for at least until the end of tonight lol. Set realistic goals in cutting down on addictions, yup that's my motto.

Anyway, I just found one more interesting site and what I love is it is THEIR site. Who knew they had one??? I didn't. So in Kate's own words, she says she wanted kids right away and Jon didn't. As has been mentioned here, they got into fertility treatments pretty quickly. And we've all heard them say how Jon was perfectly happy with the twins and didn't want more but yet again Kate insisted.

So now I'm totally comfortable in feeling that between her endless verbal pot shots (hope everyone has watch the You Tube ugly tapes I linked to.....I swear I couldn't take any more of listening to her and don't know how he endured it), and now knowing ALL of their pregnancies were when Jon said he wasn't ready or didn't want it and she insisted. No wonder he's acting like a kid on spring break. All this would make anyone feel like he had no say in his life anymore IMHO.

Here's the link if anyone wants to see it in her own words;
http://www.sixgosselins.com/about/about.html

Nhmomof3
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06-23-2009

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Thanks for all the warm welcomes. I've actually lurked here for years. BB brought me but I stayed for other shows but never signed up for an account.

Yes I live in New Hampshire and have three kids.

I guess I relate with Kate more in this situation. I have some control issues. I used to follow my husband around the house going over everything he already cleaned because it wasn't done perfectly. He got really mad and said he was going to stop helping so I stopped. It still drives me crazy but I just let it go. My 8 y/o and 3 y/o make their beds and I have to praise them even though it's not done perfect. I think Kate is probably learning a very hard lesson right now. I just hope that she actually learns from it and is able to change.

It doesn't matter if Jon didn't want anymore kids. They had them and he needs to take responsibility. Who knows what kinds of conversations happen behind closed doors. But I see Jon as an immature man taking the easy road and running.

As far as the holidays are concerned, Kate is being very idealistic right now. When I went through my divorce I said the same thing. I however have been lucky because my sons father is in the military and has been deployed or stationed in Germany since we've been divorced 5 years ago. My ex and I are lucky, we are able to get along for my son, I like his new wife and he likes my husband. Kate's emotions are going to be high for quite a while. She can't even take her wedding ring off right now. I feel for her, it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

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I am so glad for the hiatus from the TV show for the kids. Now if I could just quit hearing the words Jon and Kate on the radio, tv, online, etc, etc.........

Still curious as to what those who know Jon and Kate are saying/thinking about the divorce. I also wonder if they are still friends with the lady with the lovely home who took care of at least some of the kids on the show at her home one time <they had to get up a steep hill in the snow >or they older lady who folded laundry and would baby sit; and most of all Kate's brother and his wife ,Aunt Jodie.

When the show returns it will be interesting to see who shows up in the home while the other spouse is gone < this will drive control freak Kate absolutely batty> For example I am wondering if Jon will utilize if he can, and depending upon his relationship with them, his brother and sister in law to help with the kids.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

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Glad you came out of lurkdom Nhmomof3!!

Serate

Marameko - interesting about the lady with the lovely home - her name is Beth and she cowrote the book Kate is promoting. (and her dh got Jon an IT job in the early years)

in the early threads there was a poster that came to try and point out the "other side" of Kate - but most people dont like what Kevin and Aunt Jodie are saying, ulterior motives, etc... same for that other website... Kate's sister posted a blog in the early show giving a point of view ...

http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/ another blogger...

the site was Gosselins Without Pity... (he posted here earlier in this thread, but left)
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/

but I also understand that they are bloggers...}

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

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Just saw a news story that said that a court might not allow the kids to be on future episodes as they feel the kids might be harmed by suffering through the divorce and having to appear on TV. It was on Good Day LA this morning. Don't know their source.

Eroica
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07-28-2005

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Courtney Hazlett
The Scoop


Kate Gosselin told People magazine that it’s her husband Jon who wanted a divorce “for a long time,” and, “no questions asked, he went and hired a lawyer and said, ‘You better get one.’”

As it turns out, Jon didn’t just hire any lawyer. According to the couple’s divorce filing, Jon retained Charles J. Meyer, one of the Philadelphia area’s most high-profile family law attorneys (one of his current clients is Philadelphia 76ers player Andre Iguodala, whom Meyer is defending in his child support case).

Kate went with attorney Cheryl L. Young. “She’s much more low-profile but she has an excellent reputation for being fair, reasonable, logical," says one local attorney. “She’s not a high-drama type, she's really, really solid.”

And although Jon was the first to retain counsel, it was Kate who initiated the divorce filing. Why?

Mark Vincent Kaplan, the Los Angeles-based attorney who represented Kevin Federline in his divorce from Britney Spears (and is not involved in the Gosselin case), weighed in.

“It doesn’t matter who files first, but I like my clients to file first because that means I go first at the time of trial and present my construct of reality and let the other side have the burden of proving why that’s not accurate,” said Kaplan.

In other words, Kate will get to present her side of the story, including her ideal plan for custody, division of property and finances, etc., before Jon can weigh in.

Keeping tabs: Kate’s failure is People’s win
This week’s celeb weeklies offer a vast improvement over last week, but it certainly took a village to get there.

The Gosselin divorce announcement created cover opportunities for In Touch (“Kate’s Private Hell” is their cover line) and People magazine, which scored the big get: Kate Gosselin herself.

“It Feels Like I Failed” is a genius cover line because much of America is thinking, “yes, you did fail.” It’s affirming — and the consumer loves that — but compelling enough to inspire a sale. Better yet, People manages at the same time to be evenhanded by devoting a significant portion of real estate to Jon, including the headline “This will be a difficult transition.”

Cricket
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08-05-2002

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Chy stated:
I don't know if unc. Kevin & aunt Jodi feels vindicated now that Jon & Kate are divorcing. But I will never believe them 100%. For one thing, if Jon really had a suspicion about that BG, he won't have still been guarding Kate then, won't you think??

I think all those put-Kate-down-talk by Kev & Jo could be found on radar something, that same site that was keeping every one informed regarding the mother of octuplets ~~ nuff said??


Chy, I agree about the site that is doing the interviews of Kevin & Jodi. Never heard of it before and don't know if they edit or not, but I did see the words coming from Kevin & Jodi's mouths. The reason I tend to believe them is the fact that Jodi no longer is on the show. Many people enjoyed it when the kids went to her house. Also, they are not the only ones saying similar things about Kate. The woman who helped who had the teenage daughter that also helped finally gave up and isn't close with Kate any more and several people have just said they are staying away now, so I tend to believe Kevin and Jodi aren't lying.

My daughter subscribes to People. When I was @ her house yesterday they had an article that tries to say Kate is more intimate with the bodyguard than a business relationship, esp. when they were in San Diego with Mady. Supposedly regular people were at the same restaurant and said Kate didn't speak to any of the customers or the waiters, but rather her bodyguard ordered everything. Now, I don't believe everything ANY mag says, but I couldn't help but wonder was Kate just in a bad mood, or is she afraid to say anything in public anymore. It's too bad if the latter is the case. Fame isn't what it's cracked up to be these days.

Interestingly, I've noticed the same bodyguard (not Kate's guy from NZ) was with Jon when he took Aaden to the ER Med Clinic and with Kate when she was playing with the children in front of the house. I haven't seen Kate's gray-haired bodyguard in any pictures since North Carolina and can't help but wonder why?

Does TLC pay for Jon/Kate's bodyguards (seems like they have them only when they go places with the children) or do Jon/Kate pay?

Kreno
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08-21-2005

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kreno a private message Print Post    
“It doesn’t matter who files first, but I like my clients to file first because that means I go first at the time of trial and present my construct of reality and let the other side have the burden of proving why that’s not accurate,” said Kaplan.

In other words, Kate will get to present her side of the story, including her ideal plan for custody, division of property and finances, etc., before Jon can weigh in.

This is not correct. There is no burden of proof in a divorce/custody case. They will have to go thru mediation and a compromise is usually made before they even see a judge. If it does go to the judge, they both put on their case and the judge will decide. There is no burden to prove either one wrong. PA is a no fault state, and the judge won't care whom either party is sleeping with as long as it's not done in front of the kids.