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Cricket
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08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:00 pm
Cricket, I saw a picture from Father's Day weekend and he was hugging a (oh let's guess 24 year old) woman. I'll see if I can find it Thanks, Huk'd. I've read that he was with his family on Father's Day. I really don't see him taking a girl there unless he wanted to push Kate into letting everyone know once and for all. He must really care for this girl if that's what happened. I still think it was horribly wrong for Kate to say: "Because of Jon's actions over the weekend, I have to protect myself and my children" ...just so wrong. She needs to stop the blame game NOW! TLC Putting Jon & Kate Plus 8 On Hiatus Well, we don't have to wish that J&K would stop the charade. I guess TLC finally got the hint, they are doing it on their own...for awhile at least. How will these two handle the huge home they are living in, plus apartments for each of them with no income? I've read reviews of Kate's book and people are disappointed it didn't go into much more depth than what's been seen on the show and some say she acts as if she doesn't really want to be on the speaking engagements (understandable in the past few months with what's happening in her marriage) so I don't see the tour lasting that much longer. She's not allowed to sign anything people bring..like posters, etc. She can only sign 'purchased' merchandise, like $20 photos of her family. People don't want to pay that much for her signature, so the money train is going to dry up soon. Now Kate has something to be mad about...(show going on hiatus.) The way it sounds when (if) the show returns in August, it might not be a weekly show. This just might wake these guys up. Again, I sincerely hope Jon gets a job.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:03 pm
Lurknomore stated: And both seem to refer to the problems mentioning a 6 month window. So not that long after. So sad. Lurk, six months ago is supposed when Kate made a contract with Jon and said he/they could see others, but he had to be around for taping. Her brother Kevin swears there was such a contract. If Jon brought a girl around the kids, maybe he was tired of pretending. As I said before, it will come out eventually if true or not.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:13 pm
I agree with many of you. He said he was very young when the twins were born, and he's still young with the other children. I get the feeling this all hit him fast and he's not ready for it. It's almost like he wants to be rid of all the responsibility. I bet she'll have trouble with him keeping appointments for the kids. It would surprise me if he completely stepped up to the plate when the cameras aren't rolling.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:17 pm
I feel that he is too young, too. I think they started a family (not to mention the size of the family) WAY too soon after marriage. JMO
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:18 pm
"Because of Jon's actions over the weekend, I have to protect myself and my children" ...just so wrong. She needs to stop the blame game NOW! It's just an assumption that Jon bringing a girl to the house was the impetus for Kate to make that statement above. If you look at the Pennsylvania divorce rules I posted last night, I don't think that would be one of the valid reasons. Then again, no matter what the actual truth is...Kate ruined everything for everyone? She fake cries, she forced Jon into continuing with the show, she beat Leah, her hair is horrible, blah blah blah. Jon should get off scott free and have the wonderful single man life he wants and can now afford... THAT is what I read here. I can't wait for the real truth to finally come out. There are a few of us here who want to be the first to stick our tongues out and say I told you so. But then again, even if we were provided with pictures and or videos, she will always be the villian to some and wished a lifetime of misery. Nobody has to come out and say that directly. It's been made quite clear.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:19 pm
I for one don't really think that there are any snakes or witches here, just two people who at 22 thought they knew what they wanted, but as they gained life experience grew into people who weren't as sure. Kate needs to control things, without control she feels disoriented and chaotic. When Jon met her he must have felt some security in being under her control. He has grown and changed and likely now feels that he'd like to have a little control too, which I'm sure leaves Kate feeling out of control and as she said repeatedly..she's confused, as I'm sure she is.. Life without control is life without order and for Kate that's a life of chaos and confusion. We don't really know much about how Kate or Jon were raised, although we do know that Jon's parents were divorced at some point. The only time I've heard Kate mention her parents was in the going green episode when she told Steve Thomas that when she was growing up a project started was a project that was never finished.. What ever their upbringings.. somehow Kate became a person that must control every situation and Jon became someone that was at the age of 22 seeking to have control in his life. I think he may not have technically, in his mind, cheated on Kate (maybe a case of Ross & Rachel, We were on a break!?), he obviously feels defensive at this point.. He has internet access, he knows the world's opinion of his wife and her treatment of him. I agree that there has never been any show of warmth or affection between the two of them, their relationship has always appeared to be a passionless co-existance of indifference. Nobody is right, nobody is wrong.. they both have strengths and faults.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:21 pm
I think Jon sincerely loves those kids and don't doubt there's real love and affection between them as we've seen on the shows. I don't think he's going anywhere when it comes to his kids. He'll be there for them.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:21 pm
Twiggyish, I don't think he will abandon the kids. I think he might have handled this fine if Kate loved him and it was an equal union. Her statement last night of "I will NOT be without my children on the Holidays" says right there she's going to run this divorce like she ran the marriage. Jon says, "We'll have to see about the Holidays" but there is no compromise from Kate. While I'm a firm believer that children belong in their home on the Holidays, I hope they can work something out. I had to laugh when Kate said she would 'force' herself to keep the peace so she could have the children with her. Why didn't she try that when they were married? I think her new career has put them on two different paths, no matter what she says. It may have made her even more impatient with Jon, rather than appreciate him more for being with the kids when she traveled. If they could have had 'date nights' and possibly tried to bring back some romance, it may have worked. He didn't mind being a stay-at-home Dad it seems. It could have worked for them.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:22 pm
Record ratings last night. 10.6 million of us tuned in for this train wreck.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:36 pm
<I can't wait for the real truth to finally come out.> We've ALL seen the truth unfold in their weekly shows. A woman who berated and degraded until the man in the relationship said, "Enough. I'm done!" I don't think there's any big secret to be uncovered. Too bad they didn't quit the show a season ago when their relationship obviously started to unravel at warp speed, instead of broadcasting the meltdown of their marriage on TV to millions of strangers.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:39 pm
Great post, Cricket. Well put and ita. If kate tries to control the divorce (and it sounds like she intends to do just that) then I think things are going to get very ugly indeed. Shame.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:42 pm
It's just an assumption that Jon bringing a girl to the house was the impetus for Kate to make that statement above. If you look at the Pennsylvania divorce rules I posted last night, I don't think that would be one of the valid reasons. Right, Huk'd..it's an assumption, but I'm saying no matter what happened, she doesn't need to continue blaming Jon and saying she did it for her and the children's safety. And she wonders why Jon isn't talking to her? The Eonline article I posted has another article under it and it's the one where Jon said he didn't know where Kate was. Here's the exact wording: "When Jon was asked if he was moving to New York City, he said, "You'll have to watch the show." Jon shrugged his shoulders when questions about Kate's whereabouts arose and said, "I don't know." He's trying to keep mum about everything and she's saying her and the children need to be protected from him. So different.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 1:58 pm
Unless Jon relocates to SC.. I think it's somewhere near Sumter. Is that near the University of SC? I am trying to find that article again,be patient.I really need to save my searches so I can post what I find.LOL!! Apologies,I am looking as we speak..
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:01 pm
The article about TLC and the show going on hiatus makes it sound like they are just short of footage. I don't think this means they'll stop filming. Maybe they will film less during the transition, but if they want to have a show for Aug 3, they will need to film to get some usable footage. production on each episode thus far had been down to the minute, and word is they simply don't have enough footage at the moment to create fresh installments.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:10 pm
Cricket, I don't think he'll abandon them, either. I do think he'll miss appointments and start wanting to live away from them. Eventually, she'll end up with most of the responsibility.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:10 pm
I give up,probably mis-read something. Or someone posted a fake article,those get removed fairly quickly.Going back to my corner now..
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:43 pm
Thanks, Holly. Won't it make the rag mags so happy if it gets ugly. Twiggyish, I could see him getting frustrated if Kate is angry for some reason and his shedule gets flipped around a lot. However, I do believe Kate likes her little time about from 8 children, so she might 'expect' him to show up. I do think she will be the one with the most responsibility in the end and this is what she is so upset about. She doesn't want to be alone. She likes when they partner with the kids. That's why is so sad they didn't work on their partnership. I believe at this point they still have nannies, so as she stated, "She'll steer her ship." Brenda, correct..not enough footage. Guess it's hard to shoot when the two haven't been together much. I found this interesting: The next new episode, however, won't air until Aug. 3, "and then a modified schedule will be in place to support the family's transition," the network says. What, exactly, does 'modified' schedule mean? Kate said last night, "The show must go on." Today TLC says it musn't.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:48 pm
I think ,when Kate said "The Show must go on.",she was referring to her and the children.I use that phrase often and believe me,I am not on TV..lol
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:55 pm
I'm watching HLN (Headline News) and they just had "breaking news" that Kate gave an interview stating she and Jon have been living apart for the last 2 years. Has anyone seen that interview?
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 2:57 pm
Sure would explain the tours..hmm
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:02 pm
So the show has been a complete fabrication for the past 2 years? And maybe it really is "her" bedroom. Color me disgusted.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:03 pm
I was recalling a segment from The View this morning.Barbara Walters jokingly(i think..) said "Parents with more than 5 children shouldn't be allowed to divorce". OK,this brings a vaild point to my mind.I wonder if Fertility specialists will begin to include Pre-fertility treatment counseling for prospective patients.True,there will be people who oppose it,but you stack up the cases of divorce,suicides,abuse. Counseling isn't a bad idea.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:05 pm
Hmmm... could explain the sprawling mansion. Maybe they thought it would really work if she had her wing and he had his wing. But he went out partying and the twenty-somethings like Jon! So there went that plan out the window! I don't see any love from Kate to Jon, and not sure I saw much going the other way either. So while I do think Kate is sad, I'm not sure it's about Jon specifically as much as it is about being alone and that perfect image of her perfect family being shattered. I think she forgot that Jon is not just a puppet in her plan, but a real person. I expect we'll hear a lot more from Kate over the summer. She's not going to go away quietly. Are you kidding?! I don't think she can help herself -- she has to make snide remarks, she has to talk. And I noticed her comments about the kids and holidays. How could you not. I hope it means she will co-exist peacefully with the kids and Jon and Jon's current squeeze at Christmas dinner and not that she expects she will always get the kids without Jon for each holiday. What if he wants to take them to Hawaii for Thanksgiving! Does she really think she'll be invited along?
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:16 pm
I'm watching The View right now (dvr) and they just showed a clip from last night. I forgot that Jon said he was excited for his future. I missed that when I watched (in the middle of the night). I'm happy that he's excited. I really want him to find happiness and glad that within all his marital misery he's able to see that life can only get better for him. Say what you want about Jon, no one can say he hasn't been a good dad and that won't stop with the divorce, it'll just be different. Jon loves those kids and the kids love him. If he finds happiness the kids will benefit. So I see a rainbow ahead, it'll be ok ;).
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 3:19 pm
OMG did you guys see the "breaking news."????? In court papers, Kate is saying they have been separated for TWO YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Here's the link. How can TLC continue...this is saying we've all been snowed and it's all been an act including that 2nd wedding. How could they lie in front of the kids like that. My jaw is dropped. This is far worse than I gave them credit for. http://tinyurl.com/mykhll
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