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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:18 pm
It really was. I felt like such an intruder.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:19 pm
Thanks Kellsma, I know that they have shows for all the different holidays, I remember the pumpkin one, so they must film for a quite a while. I wonder if 40 shows equals 40 weeks, which would mean that they do take a break for approximately 3 months. Countrydaze, I think it is both. She probably is more relaxed right now when he is gone, since they are probably tense together. Wonder if anyone has seen the show, I keep hoping that the dramatic "ness" of the previews are a little hyped up and it is not as bad as it seems.
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Queenie
Member
07-09-2007
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:20 pm
I felt like I was watching a family be torn apart after tonights show. I am truly sad about it. What those children have to endure in the future is going to be hard on them. My gosh when one of the little daughters said at the party she didnt want daddy to be gone anymore wwas heartbreaking.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:20 pm
flamingo and Mamie316, did it really seem that they hadn't done an interview together for a while? Tell us about the show.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:22 pm
Dipo, the show just ended. I just got home in time to see the last half hour, but it's safe to say, yes, it really is as bad as it seems.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:22 pm
I thought the "building up" was just that,and we would all get to sigh with relief that it was all just media propaganda and it would be laid to rest.This was sad.Very sad.If this is how it will be,I don't care to watch any more. Kate was very transparent,she handled it well,but she is clearly hurt beyond words.And Jon is walking around like a man with a guilty conscience. Sorry but he knows he DID make bad choices whether he cheated or not(which he DID deny on the couch)and these choices had affected his family beyond words..Kate is a shell of a person,in my opinion.She is not the hard ass many choose to believe she is.She is devastated.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:25 pm
They really have been leading separate lives it seems except for appearances for the children. It was really sad.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:25 pm
As a lay person - albeit a "seasoned" one - I don't think either J or K exhibit any inclination to make the personal changes necessary to save their marriage. I believe they both sincerely love their kids, but "staying together for the kids" can be an immensely guilt-inducing thing for the kids! Divorces which liberate the parents WHILE still supporting the kids are - to my mind - far better than unhappy marriages. FWIW - The decision to home-school these kids - no doubt Kate's in my mind - is a VERY poor one. At their fifth birthday party each appeared to have a friend OUTSIDE the family group. I think this makes Kate feel threatened - SIX additional families to try to control!! I am usuallly okay with home schooling in large families because of the socialization factor - albeit a bit inbred - but I am having my doubts here.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:26 pm
I am so sad to hear this, it is really too bad. Is there anyway to tell when the show was taped? It might have been right at the start of everything. I hope they can work through this.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:26 pm
They did keep saying they loved their kids and they loved their family but not once, in the whole show, did I hear that they love each other.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:29 pm
watching Jon drive up to the party in his sports car just made me ill. The tension between them was cutting across the screen, and there relly didn't seem to be an ounce of happiness in that party. At the end, with the two of them on the couch together, painful. They need time apart. They need time without the cameras everywhere, and you know TLC won't let that happen. So sad.
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:29 pm
I think this was filmed the week after Mothers Day. There was no saying I love you's to each other because as of that filming they don't love each over. Just wait till the lawyers get involved. There's plenty of drama ahead.
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Flamingo
Member
08-19-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:31 pm
Dipo, I believe the children's bday party was early May, so it wasn't that long ago unfortunately. Kate said things turned bad 6 months ago...
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:32 pm
I felt uncomfortable as well. While it was never said, I think Jon just wants to play single guy. So he'll appear in the episodes, and use his pay to live away from the family. Nice car. And I saw on Survivor Sucks, that he got a motorcycle from the Orange County Chopper guys and she got a scooter or something I think.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:34 pm
Kate's anger with Jon was so obvious at the party. She wouldn't let him do anything, not even breaking apart a pinata, which he did manage to get one. She completely ignored him. There was just so much tension. And Jon looked so sad when he was hugging , I think Leah, when she was telling him she only kissed her parents. It's just sad all the way around.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:35 pm
It seemed as though Jon had been gone a while, judging by the kids' reactions to him at the party. It all seemed very awkward. I think Jon's just done. But Kate obviously wants to continue on as she likes the $$$ and the lifestyle she can now enjoy, travelling around with a security to book signings, appearing on Oprah etc.etc. She needs to stop galivanting around and stay home with those kids. OR give the show up completely. She can't have it all.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:41 pm
Jon said that once Kate did the books and began the touring for them, he "didn't have a choice" but to stay home with the kids. He said he couldn't write a book, so I guess that's what he meant. Poor Jon. Then get off your ass and go back and work with computers. Personally, I think he's on a big old pity party. Enjoys the perks, but doesn't want any invasion of his privacy whatsoever. He wants to hang out with friends and drive a hot car. If he honestly loves his kids as much as he says, then he would stop coveting the single man's life.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:41 pm
And I don't know how many times Kate had to say that she was doing the party "all alone". I have had many kids' birthday parties that I have been in charge of. My husband would help at the actually party but I was the one with the goody bags and the party games and the cake. I organized it all and I don't think I ever said Oh poor me, I am doing this all alone. I don't have 6 birthdays at once but you do have a ton of children attending them. That was just one little thing that bugged me about Kate on tonight's show. I'll end my gripe now.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:48 pm
But Kate obviously wants to continue on as she likes the $$$ and the lifestyle she can now enjoy, travelling around with a security to book signings, appearing on Oprah etc.etc. I wonder if John Likes the money too? the car, the motorcycle etc.... I wonder if they are under a contract for this coming season? Maybe its not as simple as just giving it up... how would they make money?
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:51 pm
Sounds like he is in a mid-life crisis.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:52 pm
I don't remember how this came up, but Jon mentioned that he'd "worked his whole life" and stopped about what, 3 years ago? Kate met him when he was just basically a ski bum, after he'd backpacked across Europe or something. Supporting 8 kids wasn't going to be easy, and I think it was a mutual agreement between he and Kate that they had found a way to give themselves a good life. Maybe he would have appreciated this more had he actually worked for a few years and found out how the other half lives...paycheck to paycheck.
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Suzie
Member
05-18-2009
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:54 pm
Hi everyone I am new here but am very interested in this show. I watched it tonight and I felt the tension between them. If Jon and Kate think the kids are oblivious to this, they are dillusional. Kids are smart, they know everything going on. I dont see them working this out. They are beyond repair. I do think Jon cheated and Kate, rightly so, should feel betrayed. She seemed truly put out that she had to do the prep without him.
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 7:55 pm
I think there is a flaw in the "but how will they make money if they stop the show" argument. People all across the country raise families large and small without having to be on a reality TV show. How do we all make money? The saddest thing are those childrens lives will forever be changed.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:00 pm
I haven't seen anyone argue that they wonder how they'll make money.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:04 pm
I was actually not a fan of them doing the sit down and pour out their soul to us on this episode after I saw it. It just feeds into how much do "celebrities" owe the public. They don't owe us that. I actually still think that it goes against helping their relationship and it is terrible for them to put it out there for their kid's sake. They could still go about the show if they are choosing to without doing the tell all tonight. They don't have to fake it for the audience either. The cameras could have filmed all on that show today without having to give us an explanation of what they are going through. We could have all went along and made our own conclusions about what we saw. My thoughts really stay the same after watching this. I think they are 2 miserably unhappy married people. I have thought that long before the rumors. I have never thought that you could talk to someone the way they do or take being talked to the way they do and truly be happy. If they can work it out, good for them, but my personal opinion in watching them since the beginning is that a lot would have to change in one another to make it work. My gut tells me that each of them wants the other to change but doesn't want to personally change themselves. Definitely felt the bitterness tonight. I hope they both find their personal happiness whatever that is and I hope they keep their anger for one another out of their children's lives and that includes out of public interviews.
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