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Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, October 12, 2009 - 11:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Tishala, there is a HUGE difference between breaking a contract in order to take your kids off the air and breaking a contract in order to become "an independent contractor", which is what Jon wants Kate to do.

What's more, if Jon is to be believed, then TLC is LYING to Kate about ending the show and, should they attempt to do so, there WILL be a serious breach of contract. On the other hand, if TLC is NOT the evil entity that Jon says they are, then Kate IS NOT brainwashed and is happy working with TLC in a job that provides for their family in a way that they can not do otherwise.

Either TLC is evil, as Jon says, or they are not, as Kate says. It's going to cost the family a lot of money to find out for sure either way.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think Michael Lohan is closer to evil than is TLC.. and that is where Jon is heading.

I wonder if the weed is kosher??

I did see something today while I was waiting for my patient to get her radiation, in a new People Magazine, that I hadn't realized.. that Jon's attorney is not only of somewhat questionable past but happens to be the FATHER of Jon's new manager.. which would give the attorney even more incentive to pull Jon away from current employment so that they can milk whatever opportunities come along "representing" him legally and "professionally".

Jon should be very afraid.

I think Kate is quite capable of deciding who to work with and for and Jon would be the last person to go to for advise.

Interesting that he claims Kate is airing their dirty laundry.. seems like he's been on tabloid shows much more lately and this guy who keeps talking about how they must stay out of court and commnincate.. they best way they had of communicating, per Kate, was email, since he wouldn't take her calls, and then he takes the email she wrote about the twins' birthday and hands it over to a tabloid show to mock.. yeah, Jon, THAT will certainly convince Kate to throw out the divorce and just come talk with you about (whatever it is he wants to talk about, that sure isn't clear).

And what a stellar endorsement for Hailey... she just goes up to people and says "I like your shoes". Wow, impressive, that!

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 1:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Oh, boy, Seamonkey, the relationship between the manager and the lawyer is even more interesting in light of Jon's statements in that most recent interview that these people, along with his therapist and Hailey, make up his entire "circle". These people must be salivating at the thought of getting their hands on what's left of the Gosselin money.

Suddenly, I am feeling a little bit sorry for Jon. I suspect that any "brainwashing" going on does not involve Kate.

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
Admittedly I have never watched the show. And I do get how people can get wrapped up in their reality show contestants... But was J&K+8 really a big show? I ask because these 2 are all over the mainstream media and I wonder... Who cares? He is not an attractive guy, how does he have these women lined up? Why is everyone so interested in the divorce of this couple... Yes, I understand there are 8 kids involved... but I gotta wonder was the show really that interesting? Did everyone fall in love with these parents as they diapered their kids? I just can't imagine Big Brother or survivor with this group...

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 5:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Bonbon, as far as the women lining up for Jon, it's all about the money and TLC has padded Jon's just as much as Kate's with plenty of that.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
So because Kate is in the 'entertainment industry' she should dress like that to go too PF CHANGS? LOL

As for Jon seeing the kids only a few hours on Christmas I'm sure it's because Kate won't let him have anymore time.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Jon Gosselin: I'm 'Half Jewish,' Celebrating Hanukkah With Hailey Glassman

i wonder if jon will get circumcised?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
My son and dh are circumcised and neither of them is Jewish. So Jon may already be.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Circumcision is still very common in America, regardless of whether or not someone is Jewish.

Debra
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Debra a private message Print Post    
LOL Annie!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
that was a joke ya'll..thanks for getting it debra! LOL

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Bon:

But was J&K+8 really a big show?
It was TLC's biggest hit, I think, at east at some point. TLC made a poop load of money off the kids and their parents.

I ask because these 2 are all over the mainstream media and I wonder... Who cares?

I have no idea why, but I care. I'm not into celeb gossip but I'm so very curious how this divorce will turn out.


He is not an attractive guy, how does he have these women lined up?

I don't think he has women lined up. It seems like he attracts women that appear less then stellar.

Why is everyone so interested in the divorce of this couple... Yes, I understand there are 8 kids involved... but I gotta wonder was the show really that interesting?

In the beginning We all were witness of the overwhelming chore of raising the sextuplets and twins. The "little kids" were infants when we first saw the family. They appeared to be loving parents and I think anyone watching fell in love with the kids. So a lot of people are invested in this family....sad as that is.


Did everyone fall in love with these parents as they diapered their kids? I just can't imagine Big Brother or survivor with this group...
- No I don't think anyone feel in love with the parents. In fact I think we all saw major flaws with them. It was easy to spot the troubled husband/wife relationship. There was absolutely no show of affection between the two. But for better or worse we saw much dedication and love shown to the kids from Jon and Kate and I think that's what did the marriage in. They were so stressed and busy they forgot about their own marriage and it went down the toilet. The stress from the kids and the big bucks and newly found lifestyle, curtsey of TLC, did this marriage in.

The show was a successful and interesting and a feel good show before, imo, success went to Kate's head. I believe and again this is just my opinion that Kate feel out of love with Jon and in love with money, fame and celebrity. For whatever reason I care about those kids and that transfers to caring about their parents' divorce....sick as that is!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
The latest court info from today.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/101209__judge_made_at_gosselins

http://media2.myfoxphilly.com/slideshows/gosselinswag/1/med/Hair%20plugs.htm

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
How can a person be 1/2 Jewish ? Either you are or you aren't....Jon is a piece of work.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
As for Jon seeing the kids only a few hours on Christmas I'm sure it's because Kate won't let him have anymore time.

Exactly, Angelic. So much for her doing anything to be with her children on Holidays and Birthdays. When I read what he said, I felt Kate had won. This guy doesn't know it, but he's toast. I want Kate to get married again and go through the same thing. She will; because she refuses counseling. I feel sorry for those kids. I'm sure their father will be berated daily in front of them.

It sounds like they don't even see their grandmother and relatives from Jon's side of the family. They don't see Kate's either, so is she now their only family? To me, that's a disgrace. Children need extended family growing up. It gives them a sense of worth and being unconditionaly loved.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Oh I will be waiting for Karma to grab Kate and shake her world upside down!

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
So much for her doing anything to be with her children on Holidays and Birthdays. When I read what he said, I felt Kate had won. This guy doesn't know it, but he's toast. I want Kate to get married again and go through the same thing. She will; because she refuses counseling. I feel sorry for those kids. I'm sure their father will be berated daily in front of them.

That's a whole lot of assuming that everything is Kate's fault, based on Jon's sentence that doesn't even mention Kate. I hope Kate has time for all that daily berating as she is ignoring her children while living the exotic lifestyle of hourly manicures and pedicures and her constant fame seeking ways.

As for not seeing Jon's side of the family, Jon has the kids half the time. He can arrange for his family to see them. We have no idea how much contact these kids have with the family and why that contact may or may not be limited. But I am sure, no matter what, it's all Kate's fault.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
At least the attorneys were successful at one thing with Jon: Jon actually managed to keep his mouth shut about the outcome on the way out of the court house. He talked about baseball(??) instead. (Clips @ TMZ)

But how is Jon going to take it if he has to be off the list as the most photographed person the planet? That will be a :-( :-( :-( day for Jon Boy!

JG: Every talk show wants us. I am the most photographed person the planet. Kate is the fifth most popular person in the world this year, and I'm the second most popular. Michael Jackson is the first. I'm like, 'Wake up, Kate.'
(CHY: What the H does that 'Wake up, Kate.' mean?? ??)

http://www.parentdish.com/2009/10/09/jon-gosselin-loves-his-kids-his-girlfriend-and-the-jews/

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Jon is a huge disappointment. He let this fame thing go straight to his head, just the way it has gone to Kate's. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Kate's diva behavior, poor-me crying on TV, being a media wh*** don't surprise me at all. Jon's behavior does. I expected better of him. But more and more he's just like her. The Roloff's are such a breath of fresh air compared to this despicable duo.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Yeah, what's wrong with taking the girls to grandma's to do an early or belated B-Day Party??

My mil does that. No matter how old my girls were, or how big a celebration I planed, she has to take them to her house for another one. (And we are not divorced or separated.) I used to go until she told me once :You can come, too, if you'd like. That woke me up! :-) Nowadays it's between them & the girls. If they could lured them to their house, go ahead. Being Chinese, I always encourage the relationships btw girls and all their grands & other relations. ....

Another thing, why do we care what Kate dressed as? Granted I would never, ... But how do we know she wasn't going for an interview or something straight after the lunch? Mady & Cara seemed to have been in their uniforms. They've been seen w/ white tops and khaki bottoms a lot. They probably go to a private school w/ that as the Fall uniforms. Otherwise they do not usually dress alike. Not for the last couple years.
Or, Kate could just be dressing up to lift up her mood? We all have had those days.

As long as Kate stops going on shows to talk about the newest developments of their financial woes, she's no as bad as the "Stop-at the-doorway-and read-EMail-from-my-Ex-JON"!!!

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Here, here Chy.
Kate obviously likes those sharp shoes and knows that she looks good in them. To each his/her own.

From what I have read online one is considered "Jewish" if their Mother was Jewish.Maybe that is why he said he was 1/2 Jewish;otherwise I am under the impression that he knows very little of his religious background/culture.Could be that Jewish traditions were not practiced in the home when he was growing up or he was not interested in them which was of course his preference as an adult.
What I am curious about is why no involvement from the families; Jon's may have been off screen.
All of these opinions are interesting; most are probably like me; they think the kids are just so cute.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Hang in there, Kate, OG is in your corner.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Jon's mother is Korean. He is not Jewish. He is clueless about Judaism. Just because he hangs out with a Jewish woman, eats food that is culturally Jewish, has a Jewish lawyer and therapist he says he is half Jewish. If he decides to convert, he will need to be ritually circumcised even if he was circumcised as a baby. It's just a tiny cut.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
His father could easily be Jewish but he could have not been raised in that faith. My boss is a Catholic but when his father died he was buried in a Jewish cemetery and with both traditions.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
If Jon's father was Jewish and his mother was not, he'd still have to convert. A person can only be born Jewish if his or her birth mother is Jewish and there is no such thing as half Jewish. Your boss's father could be buried in a Jewish cemetery even if he never observed Jewish Law, but your boss is not Jewish unless he converts.