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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Cricket, there is no double standard. Jon is free to pursue whatever career he chooses, BUT he is bound to the terms of his contract with TLC just as Kate. I have no doubt if Kate was violating the terms of her contract 'jon supporters' would be sure to point that out and say it was not ok.
It's really immaterial what any of us think, both Kate and Jon are bound by the terms of their contract to TLC and must act in accordance or they are in violation and open to a lawsuit.
Now, if we want to debate whether or not TLC should be trying to hold BOTH of them to their contract we can.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
The public was largely behind him when they split. Jon was seen as a sympathetic character, someone very likable. I wonder if he even realizes how much he messed that up. He cancels the show we all love in a tantrum-like manner and acts like a teenager with a weekend pass. He really played his cards all wrong. I have to wonder if he tried to work with TLC at all, or just worked against them from the get go.


brenda, so true. i really felt for jon, but i really can't find any excuse for his behavior. marrying young, having alot of kids and a mean wife does not justify poor decisions in my book. i don't believe that someone else can be responsible for another's poor choices. and it's a lesson i try to teach my teenagers every day. one would hope a grown man would have learned it.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
If Jon had been doing things that promoted TLC's show and had properly requested permission to do it he would have probably received it. Publicity is a good thing as long as it positively promotes what should have been his primary concern - JK+8. But hosting pool parties in Vegas, flauntng his mistress (yes, I know that he and Kate were separated but Joe Public sees a vast divide between separation and divorce - especially when there are 8 kids involved) and taking her on trip and trying to make independent deals with a clothing designer...these are a clear breach of contract and TLC probably felt that if they didn't go after Jon they would be setting a bad precedent.

I'm sure that the rest of their network stars either have clauses in their contracts that allow them to pursue outside interests (for instance Stacy London and her product lines) or the interests that they pursue are within the boundaries that positively promote the network.

For big companies it is all about protecting the "brand." Jon simply did not do that. He went rogue on TLC and they sued. It happens all the time in business. A "non-compete" clause is mandatory in almost all corporate executive business transactions...I'm sure it is probably even stronger in this kind of situation.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
"The Maryland judge granted TLC a preliminary injunction keeping Gosselin from being in the media before the April. 19 trial."

http://www.popeater.com/2009/12/11/jon-gosselin-court/

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/11/
gosselin.media.appearances.halted/index.html


More you go TLC!

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Jon didnt play by the rules, he has been penalized. End of story.

Kate has played by the rules and is being rewarded.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Any bets on how quickly he will violate the provisions of the court order?

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Violate court order... go directly to jail, do not go pass GO, just go directly to jail.

I think he will be smart enough. But his actions are giving Kate amno in court.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I just ran into this old article when I was checking out the weight of the tups when they were born:

http://www.becomehealthynow.com/ebookprint.php?id=1156

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Oh my they were so tiny!

I remember when my little monkey was born. 7 1/2 lbs

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
it's not okay for TLC to give Kate permission to market her 'brand' and tell Jon he can't do interviews.

As was stated before and I think a link was provided to the court docs or something like that, Jon was not getting prior approval before doing interviews, which his contract states he has to get. Kate was getting approval, Jon wasn't; it's as simple as that. Jon also pretty much verified/admitted that he wasn't getting TLC approval per the contract requirement in that recorded Michael Lohan phone call.

"The Maryland judge granted TLC a preliminary injunction keeping Gosselin from being in the media before the April. 19 trial."

I haven't checked out the link yet, but WHOA, that's huge! I wasn't expecting that.

Any bets on how quickly he will violate the provisions of the court order?

Roxip, you just brought me back to reality, LOL. You're right, it's likely he'll violate the court order provisions, afterall he did violate his TLC contract, and the order from taking money out of the joint account, and he loves courting the Paps too much. Hmmm, my guess is we'll see a violation within one month, if he's able to last that even long.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Not so flattering, several of these..

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebritynews/photos/jons-biggest-photo-faux-pas-2009268/

He may simply implode without his pap and fan time.. has his attorny had a press conference yet? (I ask because I've been so off schedule, I went to bed so early last night I haven't even seen Survivor yet).

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Yes, Sea. That was just ridiculous. Can you imagine your DAD showing up with your birthday cake and your name is spelled wrong??!!!

And when he picked it up and talked about how pretty it was, he said it looked like a wedding cake.

I guess he was just too, too busy "working" to get the cake himself and just took whatever FREEBIE someone handed him.

I just cannot get behind Jon. He makes too many weak excuses and puts blame on everyone except himself.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, December 11, 2009 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yeah that one, but the crotch grab and the one where he showed us his mid-section..hey maybe he was hoping for a free tummy tuck.. and almost always he has that phone in his ear.

There is another series of him doing yoga and reading about yoga and in one he has the PHONE in his face while supposedly reading about yoga..

He needs to read up on the results coming in from the first long term use of cell phones (Sweden) and brain tumors.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
From: abc (Mason is the judge) link

"So does this mean Gosselin's really going to keep his mouth shut when it comes to the media? Maybe. According to Mason's ruling, he must get written consent before making public statements about the show, TLC or Discovery. He also cannot do media "except insofar as such appearances" are unpaid and meet certain other terms, according to the order. Gosselin's lawyer argued that his client is an entertainer and has to yap to make some cash. But for now, the ruling still stands."

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
A little bit more info: "Gosselin's attorneys argued that he is an entertainer, and keeping the clamps on him curbs his livelihood. A full trial on the lawsuit is scheduled for April, but the sides will get a crack at mediation over the next month, according to attorneys in the case."

link

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Entertainer?? The only one he's entertaining is girls in their 20s.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, December 12, 2009 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Marcel Marceau was an entertainer, too. Maybe Jon should take his cue from Marcel and just shut his mouth

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I never found him entertaining. The kids yes, him NO.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
TLC's Chief Operating Officer Edward Sabin testified Thursday that Gosselin's behavior was "embarrassing," TMZ reported. Noting Gosselin's appearance at a Las Vegas pool party, Sabin said, "Jon surrounded by scores of bikini-clad women is inconsistent with the image of our show."

Sad and funny at the same time. Funny in the sense that it shows how it was not truly a reality show presenting reality. They were presenting an image. The Chief Operating Officer said so himself. So much for reality.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
lol @ Huk ... I agree!!

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, that's been my problem with "reality" shows from the beginning. They should be called unscripted shows. There is nothing real about a group of strangers being filmed on a remote island voting each other out. There is nothing real about a group of strangers being stuck in a house together not being able to leave unless they again, vote each other out. I could go on, but the premise of most reality shows is not real. They set up a situation and have no script. The producers can push them in a direction, but don't tell them what to say or do. It's just unscripted.

Jon and Kate might have been more scripted than most because, and I'm just guessing, they were trying to be the best parents they could in the spotlight of the cameras and they might have suggested to each other how conversations would go.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That's how I see it. However, at least with shows like Survivor or BB we know that the overall situation is artificial. It's the lifestyle reality shows (like Jon & Kate Plus 8) that are purporting to show "real life" when they are just showing an artificial image. LOL (or cry out loud) – real life is Jon cavorting with bikini clad women.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Wow guys...lets just throw Jon in jail because he made bad choices with women and he actually went against a big money maker tv company. He spent years living with a shrew..he breaks out finally and does act like a teenager and he is supposed to pay with his life? He has never had a chance to grow into maturity...Kate and TLC have controlled his every move!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
SG, Jon is an adult and I sure don't see blaming Kate (who I don't think is always a "shrew" and I'm sure there is an equally derogatory term for passive aggressive Jon) or TLC for his actions.

He was an adult when he signed the first contract and even older when he continued to sign contracts.

Heck, he probably even was an adult when he said his marriage vows, but let's not count that.

Only JON has controlled (or lacked control) with his every move. IMO. I don't understand why he gets a pass. Why is it okay to violate the terms of a contract you sign just because you signed with a successful company?

And of course I don't remember anyone suggesting that he be incarcerated.