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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Thank you Mama.
I knew I had never heard of being 1/2 Jewish. And if her were truly Jewish that would have been "addressed" when the boys were babies if you get my drift.......

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
His father wasn't Jewish. And frankly, Jon doesn't have the perseverance required to go through the conversion process. Maybe he thinks he can have Jewish lawyers, eat challah, and watch Woody Allen movies and end up Jewish, but....no. Just no.

[A very good friend is devoutly Jewish, raises her children that way, etc. Her husband is a gentile who, frankly, knows more about Judaism at this point than I do, keeps the holidays, etc., but won't do the official conversion because 1. It's such a lengthy, involved process and 2. He doesn't want to go through the ritual circumcision]

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Mama, that's what I thought but I was going to research it first before posting (Judaism can only be passed through the mother). Thank you for saving me precious Google time.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
The matrilinear tradition of Judaism is not necessarily true, though. Reform Judaism recognizes those with a Jewish father as Jewish.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
http://www.tmz.com/

TMZ has learned Jon Gosselin has been ordered to return $180,000 in marital funds, which were removed in violation of an arbitrator's order.

According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date."

Jon is required to repay the loot by October 26 -- the next hearing -- or appear before the judge for a contempt proceeding.

The judge also ordered Kate to provide an accounting of past expenses -- also due by Oct. 26.

Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Tish, is Jon's father Jewish?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Kate says, "As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children. Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."

I thought they both had gag orders per the judge. Why is Kate saying anything? She sure puts a good spin on things. In the article I posted, it said Kate had to return $60,000. That must be the accounting records she has to show?

This didn't turn out well for Kate, no matter how she spins it. I'd say this sealed the deal that the show is over. No way will Jon ever agree to let it start up again after Kate's boo hooing on National TV that he left her children without food on the table.

I read on some site this morning that neither Kate nor Jon get paid while the show is on hiatus. I guess Jon having to put $180,000 back might get Kate through the next week, but now she has to share all the money she has in other accounts with him. Nope..not a win at all.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
"Everyone in my life is Jewish now, my attorney. I love it."

(From Jhonsie: Oct. 12 8:54pm up thread)

That was a quote from Jon. So I guess now that he thinks he is half Jewish, he thinks his kids are too...since he said "everyone in my life" ...OR ... he is not including the kids as being part of "everyone in his life."

I am really sick of Jon Gosselin. I feel so bad for his kids.

I don't understand the big stink about not having separate parties for the twins. Plenty, if not most, kids of divorced parents have separate parties for the kids. Whatever is better for the kids is the best in the case of the kids' birthday parties.

And then he goes down to the paps at the fence during the party?! Jon is behaving like a very immature selfish loser who does not care about his kids very much.

Up thread within the past couple of days or so, someone posted that kate had a tummy tuck and her breasts done. If she did have her breasts done, it wasn't during the tummy tuck. That Dr. (Hailey Glassman's father) told Kate she just needed bras with more support. I have not heard of Kate having her breasts done.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I always say I'm Jewish by insemination, as a joke. I hope Jon was joking too. My husband is Jewish and many of our friends are and half the family is. After all this time I do fell somewhat Jewish but I've been dealing with the Jewish community for 30 years. I know the customs, foods, history and feel a close kinship with the jewish culture. Jon has a long way to go before he even gets close to fully understanding the culture.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
At the risk of stating the obvious, I doubt that Jon was serious when he said he is half Jewish. It was just an expression describing his current circumstances.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
So, evidently Jon's earlier assertion that he only took $22,000 out of the account were untrue?

I'm shocked, I tell you, just shocked!!!



Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    


Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I always say I'm Jewish by insemination, as a joke.

LOL, I love that line, Lilfair. I've used it as well for nationality.

Jimmer, I was going to post he was joking, but you stated it better.

Keldogg, I don't know why I'm defending Jon, but maybe it's because I'm so over Kate's drama...don't know. However, she made it sound like he took $200,000 in one day, leaving $1,000 and her with no money, when he'd actually taken $22,000 on the day she accused him. Yes, he did take approx. $180,000; however, he states she won't let him have online access to their 4 other accounts. I was wondering how he can bank @ his PA bank in NY? Maybe the account he was taking money from is the only one he can access online?

Interesting that Kate didn't mention she took $60,000...only the $100,000 she took (you know for safety) and put back.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Cricket, the important thing to remember is there was a court order forbidding either of them to take money out of that account without approval of both of them. Kate took it out BEFORE the court order and then put it back. She has admitted to that.

He violated that court order. Then went all over TV and the press saying he didn't.

If he lied about that, what else has he lied about?

I don't understand why he thought he could get away with it...did he think the law didn't apply to him?

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Kate has been vindicated. She won this round. He did take the money illegally. She only found out about it when he took that last $22,000 that drained the account to $1,000. The order was not that she had to return the money she took from that account, just that she had to account for it. That account is what she used to pay household expenses. $60,000 seems like a lot of money to live off of, but she has two mortgages, staff salaries and the daily expenses for herself and eight children. If she bought herself clothes and luxuries from that, she deserves a few treats having to put up with the antics Jon has been putting her through.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Cricket, the important thing to remember is there was a court order forbidding either of them to take money out of that account without approval of both of them. Kate took it out BEFORE the court order and then put it back. She has admitted to that.

Keldogg, there seems to be approx. $60,000 on Kate's part that is unaccounted for, so she has to show receipts by Oct. 26.

If Jon shouldn't have used this account, yes..he did wrong, but the point he was trying to make by hiring his own attorney in this mess, was to get Kate to stop using the media in her anger @ him and mediate. He's been asking to mediate and she wouldn't. Today the judge told both of them to stop speaking publicly about it (which Kate did) and mediate privately.

If he lied about that, what else has he lied about?

Kel, I just don't see him as a liar in this. I think he just got money out of the account he could access; not doing it against court order. I don't think he would have fought so hard if he'd felt he did anything wrong.

Kate is not used to treating him as an equal. Now, she's going to have to until the divorce is over.


Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Give ONE example where, before Jon announced to the world that he was stopping the show that Kate "used the media in her anger at him". There is NOT one example. She chose, over and over, not to address their issues in public.

Jon is the one that brought the press onto the property to blame Kate for sending the dog back.

Jon is the one who put up a public sign and announced that he was stopping the show.

Jon is the one who went on a media tour to explain why HE stopped the divorce proceedings.

Jon didn't take money in response to ANYTHING Kate did. He took it because, according to him, he was entitled to it as his salary.

He was wrong. Kate is being asked to document the money that she spent on the kids. Should discrepancies be found (and considering there is a house payment, taxes and school tuition to pay, I don't see how significant it could be!) then she will be asked to return the money. Jon, on the other hand, clearly has been told to hand back 180K. That was money he took without permission and he has no way to blame anyone but himself for that behavior.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Only, I agree with you. Jon's actions of late is like a child throwing a tantrum.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 3:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Kate can be vindicated over an over and it just won't matter to some..Its ALL still her fault. No matter what.

cuz I bet now, it'll be..Jon was forced to take the money...because Kate *insert whatever lame-assed excuse here*

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 3:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
ITA Onlyhuman & Cinnamongirl

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
So just watching ET and apparently the judge has ORDERED both Kate & Jon to return EVERY penny from the acct. So it's not just Jon, it's Kate to (Gasp!) He also wants them to resolve this ASAP.

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
BTW did anyone notice that while Jon was carving pumpkins with the kids at the house, somehow filming was taking place? I guess Kate needs her own sign to stop filming. Oh wait that would be playing Jon's game. Also, he took a break from being a loving, attentive father to go to the fence to sign autographs for the young women. (looking for a helper for the pumpkin carving?) lol

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, October 13, 2009 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I just love watching Kate with her kids. She is such a good mother. Thank goodness the kids have her and not just Jon. I think if all of them leave the spotlight you will see Jon with his kids less and less and not just because the limelight is gone. Its real easy to talk about how much you love your kids but if you really mean it you don't become the self-absorbed adolescent Jon is now. The more he talks the more insincere he sounds. Action/Words: learn the difference, Jon. Oh wait. Look who he hangs out with. Michael Lohan and K-Fed, not to mention this sleezeball lawyer he's got. And let's not forget the lovely Hailey, who he loves much more than he ever did his kids' mother. I wonder if his kids have heard that yet. Nice. I think Kate is going to come out of this the lucky one to get away from Jon. She may even still be hurting right now but I bet very soon she's going to be relieved that she no longer has to raise that 9th kid that doesn't want to grow up.