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Rissa
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03-20-2006

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 4:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Cricket, if Jon took the money over the course of a YEAR then you are saying he was taking money before they even separated? I hadn't heard that before, I thought he was claiming he took the money over a two month period. The rumours started in March didn't they and then they decided to separate in June? It's only October now and this money thing is already about a month old? So he was stealing money starting last September?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
The statements from the attornies from BOTH sides say the money was taken over a FEW months. No one has said a year; and no one said all at once.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Rissa, here is the new Vanity Fair article where a source is quoted as saying Kate told Jon it was over last October. Jon has said the same thing. So..technically, it has been a year, but I'm not sure if Jon only started pulling money in the last six months or what.

This article is equally hard on both Gosselins.

Vanity Fair Article on the Gosselins

snip:
Last October, says the source, Kate sat Jon down at the kitchen table and said she had “grown out of him, she was done with him, and she no longer wanted to be with him. She said, ‘I don’t even know why I married you in the first place.’” A spokesman for Kate says she has “chosen to take the high road and not get into those details.”

Nonetheless, Kate has insisted—on Today and elsewhere—that it was Jon who ended the marriage. Jon has maintained—in In Touch and other places—that Kate did. The source who knows Jon says that Jon tried to keep it together, asking Kate to go to counseling with him; but the only counseling she would agree to was Dr. Phil (they had been on his show once for parenting tips.


snip:
Throughout the fall, Jon was living in a guest room above the garage. And then in January, says his friend, lonely and unhappy, he started going out to bars. In March, while Jon was visiting his mother in Huntingdon, Pennsylvania, he showed up at a beer bash thrown by Juniata College seniors; they took pictures and put them in the college paper. “Playing beer pong and all those fun things,” Kate says.

“You have to understand,” says Kate, “that was not the first night he was out. It had been a couple of months. He had been staying out till two a.m. I knew it was just a matter of time” before somebody in the media caught on.


What boggles my mind is that Kate made it clear that Jon had been doing this for a couple of months when he was photographed in March, 2009. Ummm..you mean since you told him it was over in Oct. of 2008, Kate? Does she even get it or was Jon supposed to continue living over the garage while the show went on?

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
That was an interesting article. I don't agree that it was fair to both. Jon's version of events, as told by the supposed "friend" is repeated as "truth". I know some believe it's the truth, but it certainly has never been verified. What's more, this person evidently spent time with Kate and the bodyguard and STILL repeats Jon's claims, based on nothing, that Kate and the bodyguard are having an affair. The reporter doesn't bother to give any input from actually spending time with the accused individuals, just repeats the story from the "friend".

Aside from the experiences with Kate, which evidently didn't supply enough juicy material for a real article, it's simply a rehash of everything that we've seen in the tabloids. I'm not sure I see the point, other than to present Kate as a money hungry fame seeker. Fun.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Ok fine the marriage is over. Maybe she got sick of him or he got sick of her or it was mutual.

That dont excuse his behavior with parading different women infront of the kids. Kate being a "cow", shouldnt had made him move to another state, he should had gotten a place nearby so he can see the kids more often and parent them.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Is there proof she had an affair with the body guard?

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I have not read anything that there is any proof that Kate had an affair with the body guard. I read that Jon said he wondered/suspected (whatever) about it because they spent so much time together.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I truly don't understand the logic that if one spouse treats the other badly, it's ok for the other to act badly in return.
Would we allow that attitude anywhere else in life? From our children, our friends, our employers?
One bad behavior does not justify or explain the other.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Tex, I' all for turning the other cheek when someone treats you badly. I suppose the general idea being talked about is that Kate treated Jon badly in the marriage by the way she treated him (an arguable concept) and Jon treated her badly by looking for love elsewhere. That's the gist of it right? Keeping the money issues aside since we aren't privy to where Kate put the monies she received during the marriage from her talks and books.

My thought is that Kate really didn't care what he was doing or who he was seeing as long as he showed up for taping and being there for the kids when she wasn't around. Otherwise why would she allow him to live in his own apartment within the house?

This isn't a black or white situation and neither one of these parents, imo, tried hard enough to keep the family in tact. And it really doesn't matter what happened in the past what matters is how they go forward from this point on. The kids need to feel like they weathered a storm but that sunshine will be in their futures. As long as their parents are fighting they won't feel the storm has passed.

There are countless divorced families that seem to come out without the parents hating each other. That's what I want for this family. Peace.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, October 24, 2009 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Is there proof she had an affair with the body guard?

No, Kittyab and I didn't take from the article that she did. I guess I have to go back and read it again or something. Jon was concerned she was having an affair with him, but no one has come out and said they have proof.

At this time, I don't get the feeling that Jon still thinks she had an affair with the bodyguard.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Very weird situation. One would think Jon would had been content to allow things to continue as they were. But I guess he wants his freedom.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 1:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
He very well may have been content if the paparazzi hadn't busted him. But of course he didn't have to party in such a public way to cause the paps to notice him.. so maybe he wasn't content.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Has he explained why he has halted the divorce proceedings?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 4:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Why would Jon be content living over the attic in that huge house and basically having no wife?I don't think it had anything to do with paparazzi, but more about him being tired of living a lie and told by his wife she was over him..done!

I thought Kate 'told' him he was to pretend everything was okay. He did it for five months. That's quite a long time.

There's a pic of Jodi and Kevin Kreider visiting Jon and the children yesterday @ a website who got it from Radar Online; however, I haven't seen anything else about this visit on other websites. Has anyone? I wonder if this will upset Kate.

http://www.musingsfromthemoon.com/?p=5734

I'm glad the Aunt, Uncle and cousins are back in the children's lives. It was apparent how much they loved their Aunt Jodi.

Kitty, re halting the divorce proceedings; perhaps he wants to make sure he doesn't get railroaded like he did with the show. He says there are more accounts; perhaps he wants to find out about those before finalizing the divorce.

Aren't Kate and Jon supposed to go to court Monday? How can that happen if Kate is in Los Angeles? According to this article, she's doing a book signing today and a public appearance tomorrow night.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 4:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Quite often you don't have to personally be in court if your attorney is there representing you.

Heck, since ours was an uncontested divorce, no children involved, my soon to be ex wasn't even in court when I appeared, sans attorney.

It really depends just what that court date involves. If it is just for Jon to prove he returned the money and Kate really has a different date for her proof, then why be there and feed the paparazzi with more picture ops.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Kate's brother and sister in law are visiting the kids while Jon is there and not while Kate is there? That alone speaks volumes. Amazing.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Not really, Jimmer. We don't know the circumstances, just the rumor that they talked for money. I haven't spoken to my sister since our Mom died a few years ago and I probably never will. She robbed me blind. And it wasn't just money. She sold everything including MY piano and sentimental things and I got nothing. I guess it was easy for her to be a thief with me living 1400 miles away.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
If it's true that the kids are again seeing their Aunt I think it's a good thing. The more loving family the better for the kids.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
That does speak volumes. And I am glad that the kids do have their aunt and uncle (and cousins) especially if it is Kevin & Jodie, which I think it is.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Well if its his brother & SIL they are more apt to visit when Jon is there not Kate. Its his family not hers.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
It was "Kate's brother and sister in law." That would be HER brother. HER family. That is what makes it so telling....

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I thought Jodie was Jon's SIL? I thought Kate stopped speaking to her family a long time ago.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Jodie is Jon's AND Kate's SIL. Kevin is Kate's brother, and Kevin is married to Jodie.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Gottcha. Well I googled... Jodie is has really trashed Kate... no wonder they aint speaking lol!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
anyone consider that Jon might be inviting them over to get back at Kate and it have nothing to do with the children?