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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
How do you know what their agreement is, Jimmer? Maybe it's that the other parent is to be advised of the need for a babysitter before calling another one in. IF their agreement was that parents are to be called first to babysit, and IF Kate got wind of this other babysitter, I would certainly think she would have the right to be on the property.

I wish they would fill us in on all of the details of stuff so we don't have to keep debating the issues. Don't they know that we NEED to know? lol!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Indeed, Hukd! LOL

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I wouldn't have called the police. I would have called my lawyer and told him or her that we were reworking the custody agreement.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yes, that's what I'd have done also Roxip.
Hukd, if that were the case, the police would have been able to do something.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Having never been in that situation, I am truly not sure what I would do.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I don't know for a fact what the police can or can not do in a situation like this. I don't know Pennsylvania divorce laws as thoroughly as others, apparently.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Police told ET there was no call to 911, nor was any domestic dispute reported. They confirm a non-emergency call was placed and an officer responded. They say the situation calmed down and there were no charges filed.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm sort of just hoping that one of the freebies Jon got was a vasectomy. Since he seems to lack restraint and apparently cannot go without for a week until he gets back to whoever the heck he is really "with" we could see quite a population explosion. He apparently cannot go long without being out late at bars. And last reported bar visit was WITH Stephanie, so he must have had to hire yet another babysitter to cover for him and "his" babysitter.

It would all be interesting if there weren't children involved.

As for saying what I would do in a highly charged situation .. I'm sure that Kate didn't expect to be locked out .. I really cannot say how I'd react.

Poor Jon, though, since he has said when he is in Pennsylvania he feels, like, ugh.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm just going by what was reported as we do with much of what we discuss on the board. Obviously calling the police didn't work for her with respect to getting into the house.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Sea, maybe that can be one of the episodes! LOL

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - Now that would be a good one!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
It always come down to control, doesn't it, with these two.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 2:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i have always thought their issue was more of a perception of good judgement or how a situation should be handled rather than control.
she seemed to fuss at jon the most when he wasn't helping in a situation when she thought she needed it and he didn't or used bad judgment (ie the coupons, she thought it was bad judgement to not use them.)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Control, indeed.. the full spectrum from

NO----------------------TOTAL

Neither of which really works for long.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
They seem to be two completely different personalities. Kate seems very controlling and particular about how things are done. Jon seems fairly indifferent and passive (which may have turned into passive aggressive).

I think differences can work for the short-term in a relationship and it may even have been one of the factors that made them attractive to each other. However, it was harder for them to make it work in the long-term.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Another source says Kate called the house to find out which babysitter was helping with the children. When she didn't approve of the caretaker, an argument with Jon ensued

Why does Kate call when she's not there? Is she trying to micro-manage Jon? If he had a separate house and had the kids there, Kate would have no say in whom he had babysit. During his time with the children, he should be able to have complete control.

Kate isn't accepting that this is really happening yet. As long as she's in control, it's okay. I don't see them sharing that house forever.

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
"i have always thought their issue was more of a perception of good judgement or how a situation should be handled rather than control"

Isn't that control, when you think there is only one way, your way?

Naja
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06-28-2003

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Responding a little late here:

Hukdonreality, Jon said in one of the videos posted that the agreement was the other one wouldn't be home during the other's turn with the kids. It was out of Jon's mouth that we got that info. Whether one chooses to believe Jon is a different story, but the info came from as close to the horse's mouth as you can get.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I obviously don't think so, mgmriver. LOL I differ with my spouse on certain things with our kids, but I am not trying to control him. We just look at things differently. I am much stricter with the kids on some things that he feels aren't that big of a deal. (curfews, parents being home when friends are over..things like that). We have a different perspective.

I used the coupon as an example with jon and kate. i absolutely agree she shouldn't have berated him, but always using a coupon is very important to her (she has stated it many times). i don't think she is trying to control jon by asking him to use coupons. she was trying to save money. his perspective is it's not that big of a deal.

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 2:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
The things you and your husband don't agree on,Tex, do you forbid him his option or berate him in front of your kids, just so you can control the situation? Most couples don't do things exactly the same way but they don't barge in and demand things are done their way. I bet you and your husband compromise with each other.

Everything is important to Kate. The coupon thing was a just an example of Kate's personality. They were already making money, being comped for all the things they consumed it wasn't going to make the difference of eating or paying the mortgage. It ended up being a good storyline and another example of Kate's bossiness.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I must be controlling cause I don't think my examples are control issues! LOL If I am understanding you correctly, if someone thinks their way is the better option, it's all about control? Don't most people think their way is better? LOL Like I said, I don't agree when she berates him, but I don't think she is trying to control him. If she calmly said 'we always use coupons' would that still be trying to control him? I think people react to the manner in which she speaks, not what she is saying.
Some of the wealthiest people I know watch their pennies and are very frugal. Just because you have it doesn't mean you need to be foolish about spending it.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
My favorite Kate quote from the kitchen episode when Jon merely suggested an option for the new kitchen.
"What planet are you on"

When the 3rd party explains what Jon requested, it was not until then that she thought about it. Nothing that Jon says will ever be right.

Unless you live w/ this type of a personality, you do not know it when you see it.

That is exactly what someone I live w/ would say to me.

Kate is 100% a control freak from what the kids wear to what they eat to what anyone else thinks.

Let me point out, that I am not defending Jon.

Irismi
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02-22-2008

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Irismi a private message Print Post    
Well, Sherbabe, Wait till the kids are a little older and have a mind of their own...Kate will not be a happy camper then (and yes, I Know she loves her children)...
I think Jon is living his own life now and some are appalled at his choices. I don't care what he chooses to do as long as the children are okay. At least he's not on tv crying 'fake' tears...looking for sympathy and higher tv ratings...

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
Let's keep in mind we don't know what happened that night. Did one of the older kids call Kate because of what was going on with Jon and the "babysitter"? Jon hasn't ever been discreet, he continues to bring women..scratch that, girls to the house. There is no telling what those kids are seeing or hearing. It sure would be nice if he could keep those hormones in check during the time he is with the kids!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Yes, I see 8 "mommy dearest" books in the future.