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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, May 15, 2009 - 9:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Guess she's decided now she wants to dredge up the past once again. Hard to see where their re-entry into the issues is helpful to Jon, Kate or any of the kids, including their own.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I am really glad I don't have a brother like Kate's. Whether or not any of what we've read about Jon and Kate is true, Kate's brother and his wife are not doing anyone any good at all by giving that interview. I totally do not see any good for any kids coming out of Kevin and Jodi doing that interview.

Counseling has been mentioned in this thread. Maybe they are in counseling. I thought they mentioned it on a show once. I could be wrong. Anyway, just because we have not read about it (them going to counseling) in a tabloid or entertainment mag. doesn't mean it isn't happening.

I don't think Kate has always said the most appropriate things to Jon or the kids. I also don't think he has said the most appropriate things to her or the kids. I think most people aren't perfect and would take back some things if they could. Especially things said under stress. I know J and K love their kids but that doesn't mean there is no stress. 8 kids. 2 born at once and then 6 born at once. wonderful and ...stressful!

When I watch older ep. I notice things Jon says and does and think to myself, good thing Kate didn't say that, she'd get blasted for it. Maybe she is just louder than Jon.

I think this whole thing is very unfortunate and sad and I hope they can all be happy someday very soon.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Nope, no counseling. I believe I recently read that Kate said there was no counseling. I think Jon did not want it. But I read so much, not sure where I read that. I doubt this family is going to be happy (as a family) anytime soon. Hopefully they are happy individually at least.

I also find it curious how interesting posters here find this situation cuz this thread is very busy.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I don't find it all that curious. This show has given people a pretty good glimpse at their lives and this is a momentous event.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
What if Jon's teacher- supposed g-friend comes up pregnant....that would really be the final nail for the show....or maybe not.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Hmmm, but what if he got her pregnant with multiples? A spin-off!!

Sandra
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07-06-2004

Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 1:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sandra a private message Print Post    
:-) OMG!!

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
ok...Am I the only one here who wishes that we could finally just know the truth and be done with it? I actually find myself thinking about this family when I try to sleep at night. When I make my family "sticky buns" for breakfast I think of the Christmas episode,I think of them when we have blueberry pancakes and turkey bacon on Pancake Sunday(remember episode"pancakes and potties?)
SOOO many memories and yes while she did seem overbearing at times,I don't wish for any family to go thru this..I am so sad about it all I just want closure.Am I a total weirdo???

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
If you are, Lori, then so am I. I really just want the happy family they seemed to be.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Nope, Lori. Not a weirdo at all.

Julie, not sure what you mean.. seems like you are "in" this thread as much as anyone, so I assmue you must find it "interesting".

I find it interesting as a student of human behavior (never grew up from being a psych major) in the thread, in the media, on the show.

I was heartened when one of the tabloid websites was braying about the amazing "before picture" of Kate which was simply a picture of her after she had the babies, before the new haircut and 5 hears had passed. A totally unremarkable picture considering she had just carried and given birth to six babies. And what was heartening was that most of the comments pointed that out. And also pointed out that anyone would want a tummy tuck after that and hers was totally donated.

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One observation from the recent pictures.. Jon's hair plugging seems to have been quite a success! I saw a much younger pic of him where it showed just how much hair he had lost at that point and now it is looking pretty good. Great product placement for hair pluggers.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 6:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Julie, not sure what you mean.. seems like you are "in" this thread as much as anyone, so I assmue you must find it "interesting".

Yes, I am. So now I am confused? Did you think I thought it was interesting for everyone else besides me??? And I do find it all interesting...

Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I also find it curious how interesting posters here find this situation cuz this thread is very busy.

I took this to mean that the current situation has made this thread more posted in, by more posters, than before the "affairs" hit the news. So therefore the situation has made this thread more interesting to more people than before.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Exactly, I have never seen the show and have never read this thread. Then I saw the interview with Kate on Larry King Live and realized something HUGE was going down in the TVCH thread.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'm with Lori and OG. I brought this topic up with my niece (who is also a big J&K fan) and she asked if it was bothering me too. I don't know why either of us feel invested in this, I suppose it's because those kidlets are just so darned adorable!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL Julie - I guess it is just more usual to find it curious that people are interested in something if we are not interested in it ourselves. I'm less curious about why someone is interested in something that I am interested in because I assume they are interested for somewhat similar reasons.

So let's say that I watch NASCAR all the time and post about it regularly. I wouldn't suddenly post in the NASCAR thread saying that I find it curious that other people are so interested. So I think that was why Sea was curious about your post.

People care about this family, they know a lot about their lives and they are interested/concerned/curious about how they will handle this crisis. Plus more posts and more media attention mean a more active thread and more interest.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
This is the "perfect reality storm".

Adorable kids
Overbearing mom/wife
Hands on dad that plays passive aggressive games
abundant rumors of Kate distancing herself from people that we got to know as friends and helpers of the family

and then the last few weeks rampant rumors of infidelity on both sides, rumors of Kate being gone for weeks at a time on her book tour while Jon was gallivanting around with a woman and Kate's relationship with her married bodyguard and all this on the heals of their renewal of vows ceremony. Kind of a soap opera with 8 kids hearts at stake.

I adore the kids, all of them.
I'm amazed at how well Jon and Kaye they got through the first 4 years of the little kids lives. I thought very very HIGHLY of both Jon and Kate as parents.

I was always suspect of their marriage in terms of are they really in love with each other because I didn't see them as a happily married couple but I figured it was due to the stress of being parents of 8 and once potty training was done and school starts fulltime I figured they'd get back to being lovers and best friends.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Actually I had the same thought as Julie, wow the posts sure have picked up in here.

BUT to get things back on topic the more I read, the more I'm thinking it IS true that Jon & Kate have some sort of agreement - whether it is written or verbal - that it's ok to do what they want to do as long as it's private, for the sake of the kids and most importantly for the sake of the show. Yep, I believe IF they have a contract, it's more about the show, then the kids. Tho the show is to help support the kids.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think there are quite a few celebrity couples (or political couples) or even non-celebrity couples like that who pragmatically agree to look the other way in the interest of keeping the marriage and the family together. However, I think that is more likely to occur in marriages that have been around longer than 8 years. IMO if that is what works for the couple then it shouldn't be anyone else's concern.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Jimmer I totally agree. As I posted awhile back, I actually knew a couple that did this. What they did was their business.

But I guess if we took the position that if something works for somebody so it's not anybody else's concern, why is anybody commenting on anything anybody does, as long as it works for the people involved?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Jon drives me crazy with is passive aggressiveness. It's like inwardly being controlling to drive Kate insane. She doesn't need help with that, she's got 9 kids including Jon. TEAM KATE, all the way. I imagine if he wasn't the way he is, she'd be easier to be around. It must be tough to have the person who is supposed to be your 50/50 goes out of his way to covertly make things harder on you.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
TEAM KIDS here.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about Jon and Kate at this particular moment, except that kids need both their mom AND dad.

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'm sure Escapee meant Team Kids. She was talking about Kate for the coach/manager. I'm with her on the Katewagon.

(and you shouldn't say rat's ass...that's my line you brat)






<---owns the term "rat's ass"

Serate
Member

08-21-2001

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Oh I'm sure Escapee wasn't leaving out the kids. I'm just leaving out Jon and Kate.

rat's ass rat's ass rat's ass rat's ass

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Well, in order for it to work out, Jon needs and attitude adjustment first, I think.

And you know that some parents are better parents when they are away from their bitter halves.

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Monday, May 18, 2009 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I will slap you SO hard upside your head if you keep saying rat's ass. Then I will pinch you and pull your hair.









have a nice day!