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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I thought Kate was furious because TLC went to Jodi and offered to pay her without clearing it with Kate first. Then, even though Jodi didn't care about being paid, Kate wanted her off the show.

Personally, I think Kate probably didn't like the viewers saying how much they liked Aunt Jodi. She and Kate are polar opposites.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
That's why I had ??? I wasn't sure how the mags wrote that story or if any of the parties made a statement. I remembered that money was involved and family relations were ended.

From the start of this messy divorce I kept wondering who has the kids best interests in mind as far as legal issues go from working on the show. So I'm beyond glad that someone is bringing that up. It's probably too late for the kids to see any pay for their work but maybe it'll help future kids get paid for work on reality TV.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Here is a quote about it from a blog:

4) Kate was alleged to have said if anyone else gets paid for the show, she will quit.

Aunt Jody from Jon and Kate Plus 8 was offered money, as she has a recurring role on the tv show. The producers came to her, told her they wanted to pay her, but they had to clear it with Kate. Jody and her husband, Kate’s brother, asked Kate about it, who in turn banned them from her and her kids lives, the only family on her side that she was speaking to already.


Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I don't recall reading any posts that said Kate forced TLC to do her Question show. I think TLC wants to keep the money coming in; however, they will find that the ratings just won't hold up.

They like Kate (even though she is difficult) because she is willing (most of the time) to do what they want, as she has become accustomed to this lifestyle. As much as she complains about all she has to do, think of the Moms who do it without any assistance. She has plenty.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
The whole money/no money thing isn't relevent. The point is Jodi's kids were on the show too. It was fine until her altercation with Kate....then it became harmful for the children. I find it hard to take her seriously because her story changed just like Jon's.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Sometimes you have to step away from the situation to see a truer picture. It's not out of the realm of logic to think that Kevin and Jodi rethought their attitude about the sextuplets and twins being on the show and having the crew around all the time. I'm just giving the other side no one of know what happened. But as always the kids seemed to have gotten the short end of the cousin stick. Iy would break my heart if my kids were kept from their cousins...and I don't even like my sis in law, at all. But I'd never think about keeping the kids apart.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
I suppose we can go 'round and 'round about the Gosselins for eternity, but there are a few points which stand out to me as viable facts that are undeniable and prove certain points folks may be trying to make.

Those few facts are:

1. Jon bought two new cars...one a small, sporty car for himself (he was seen on entertainment shows gathering the twins and their violins from the bus and struggling to get them and all their stuff in it) and the other a small $70K SUV for his girl. Neither of those cars is capable of seating eight children.

2. According to the court papers from yesterday, Jon has been ordered to return $180,000 of the $235,000 he took from a joint account. Kate was not required to be in court yesterday because she has sufficiently shown to the court where the $33,000 she was required to account for went.

After Jon's court appearance, his attorney quit. He will now be trying to find a new one to take on his case.

3. Jon once said, "Some day my kids are going to google me and I don't want to do anything to embarass them."
That didn't last long.

4. Nowhere...Nowhere at all...have I seen any evidence whatsoever of Kate flaunting, flirting, drunking, floozying or cavorting. The same cannot be said for Jon.

5. Even those who try to cash in by selling thier "inside information" on Kate to tabloids and fodder television shows have not provided any real proof of any wrongdoing on Kate's part. They've only given their fractured versions of why they think it's "wrong" "bad" "harmful" to the children...as they, themselves, USE the children for their own profit.


Seems rather simple to me.

As for her comments about not wanting to be lonely...yes, you can have eight children around you to the point where you are rarely alone. But those children do not sleep and rest with you, comfort you physically, share in adult coversation or fill a place of love that only another adult can fill. So, uh, yeah...a woman can be extraordinarily lonely even with eight children in her life.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Sabbat, Jodi's kids were barely ever on K&J+8. The few times they were shown, they were way in the background. Not even sure their names were as much as mentioned. You mentioned that she and her kids were on a reality show. If they were, I never heard of it.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
If I hadn't tried to think of it, I could have told you at least one of the kid's names Julie. From what I understand, Jodi at least was on six episodes. The point is....HER kids were filmed also. How bout those poor Dugger kids? They seem to be terribly traumatized by being on TV. WHen it comes to one person's side of the story...the truth usually lies somewhere in the middle

BEE, looks like you got all the facts right.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 10:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
What Bee said.

But it was the Pennsylvaina attorney who quit, again. The NY attorney is still there, of course, but he cannot practice in PA. Interesting clips showing Jon and that NY attorney (the one with the checkered past, father of Jon's "manager", former defender of the Son of Sam serial killer and the Mayflower Madame) trashing Kate for not being in court.. uh.. she wasn't required to be in court and the high road to me says.. stay away from court and also if you DO go to court, don't come outside and feed the paparazzi more pictures and quotes, as Jon and the attorney did.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Bee you and I are in the same mind set.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
ditto on what Bee said.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 6:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
To clear something up, Aunt Jodi said the producers only came to her personally to offer her money long after they had asked Kate first. It was the next season already. That was how Jodi found out she could have been being payed. TLC told her when they finally went directly to her to make an offer. THEN that's when Kate blew up and cut Jodi and Kevin out of their lives. Aunt Jodi really had no idea for a long long time they had gone to Kate first to get Jodi on the pay roll, and Kate had said no.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Naja. That makes sense.

The Insider had a body language expert on last night to discuss Kate's body language on her special. The woman said Kate was angry and her gestures; rolled eyes; flippancy re questions; facial expressions weren't those of someone who wanted to draw people in to her. It sounds like maybe Kate wasn't enthralled with doing the questions. I didn't watch, but they showed parts of it, and I couldn't believe the tossing of the papers/questions and remarks/faces she made. Wow!

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
She is probably not enthralled to do the questions. Why should she be. I sure wouldn't. Why should she answer our questions?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm a single mom and I can tell you that is can be very lonely. You miss having someone there that you can share all the special things your child (or in their case children) do...you miss having someone at the end of the day to be able to kind of debrief...you miss having someone in the morning who might get up and turn on the bathroom heater (or at least shower first...LOL) so that you don't have to freeze until it is warm enough...you miss that one person who loves your children as much as you do who will "get it" when something crazy happens and you are freaking out and then make you laugh. I think that's what Kate says when she says she is lonely. Your child cannot fill (and you certainly shouldn't try to have them fill) that void in your life.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
If the body language lady watched the show regularly she would notice that that is Kate general personality. There was nothing new in her disposition.

I don't think Kate has the personality type that wants to draw people in unless there is something she can get out of them and not just a mere friendship.

I read that Kate left her book signing early on Monday due to lack of interest. They showed her sitting at her signing table fidgeting with a sharpie and looked bored. She should have been practicing her acting skills and looked more interested.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Why should she answer the questions? That is HER choice. No one is forcing her.
WHY is she doing it? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ is my guess!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Same goes for next week's "Kate. Her Story."

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
You say money like it's a dirty word. LOLOL Someone wanted to ask me personal questions that I could answer or not answer as I choose for $75 grand (I am assuming she got paid as if it were a regular episode) I would be 'hell ya'ing that before the words were completely out of their mouths.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
According to news reports (sorry I don't have link) and my mother in law (who know's everything), she is under contract to TLC and since they can not do the actual show they are filling with the Q&A and interview things until the matter is resolved. She is obligated to do the show, I would assume Jon is as well, but since he is the "vs" party they are probably not wanting to touch him with a 10 foot pole right now.

However.. I don't know, I really don't. Kate and Jon seem like normal people who have lost their way. They are just fortunate or unfortunate enough to be on TV while they are trying to sort out what is left of their lives. Kate seems to be the one left with all the responsibility and Jon seems to have gone crazy. I can relate, I went crazy after my divorce. Thankfully no kids were involved, but you kinda are like.. WOO HOO I AM FREE!! Party party party. Again, his is caught on tape. Mine.. thankfully no. :-)

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Terlyn, I suspected as much.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Julie, is she suppose to get sued by TLC too for failure to fullfill her part of the contract?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Terolyn, running rampant when divorcing isn't unusual. My niece is going through a divorce and she's partying like there is no tomorrow. We hope it's just a phase. Jon seems to have settled down with the manic dating and settled with Haley. Of course my niece is not a celeb and doesn't have kids.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Can you imagine the repercussions that TLC would get if they tried to sue Kate if she wanted to be off the air? No possible way would that happen.