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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Actually Jodie has held back from saying more about Kate. What i remember is she said little about Kate on her blog and only posted stuff when the press that her family was getting was at its height. (back when Kevin & Jodie first left being on the show.) Bottom line is I am glad that they are back in the kids' lives. They can use all the family they can get.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
absolutely Texannie!

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
It is Kevin and Jodi. Jodi looks thrilled to be there and Jon has his arm out in a body language that is inclusive.

There is a pic of them @ the website I posted. Sorry...my above post didn't make that clear..I said Radar Online. Also, a poster had this to say when others thought Jon or his attorney might be doing this to make Kate mad or for money.

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This is unbelievable news! And there it is in pictures! While I am delighted that Jodi and Kevin are back in the kids’ lives (on Jon’s watch, anyway), I hope there is no ulterior motive on Jon or his attorney’s part.

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I don’t think so. Jon said on ET or the Insider, or one of the entertainment “news” programs that he had been talking to Jodi and Kevin on the phone. Please remember that when I talked ill of them in the car, etc. that he was still under TLC’s contract. He stated that as well. There were a lot that things that he was directed be TLC to say because they threatened to sue him if he didn’t and there were a lot of things that he could not say because, again, they threatened to sue him.

I was surprised to read how much of a hold TLC actually has/had on both Jon and Kate. Heh, heh, they are suing Jon now, so I guess he can say whatever he wants. They do go with Kate everywhere and in that interview she gave to Vanity Fair, their rep. decided when it was done.

Also, I think Kevin/Jodi are savvy enough by this time to be able to tell if Jon is sincere. They were who he went to after Kate told him she was over him.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I'm so happy the children will get to know their aunt and uncle. At least it's one good thing to come out of Mrs Gosselin's absence from her children.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Gottcha. Well I googled... Jodie is has really trashed Kate... no wonder they aint speaking lol!

Kate got Jodi and Kevin booted off the show. TLC had the audacity to actually want to pay Jodi for filming when the children were with her and Kate was furious they went to Jodi to discuss it and not through her.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Of course that is ONE side of the story.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, October 25, 2009 - 9:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
Yes, the true side.

Kate does not play well w/ others.
and
Kate does not share.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
The problem I have always had with Jon's story of the marriage ending is that his behavior makes NO sense in the context of events that he claims occurred.

Let's say your spouse tells you the marriage is over and refuses to go to counseling, telling you that you need to live about the barn and have no life. You have 8 children with this spouse, 8 young children with whom you are concerned. After seeing a therapist for many hours (he claims he spent over 20K in therapist bills) to assist you in getting on with your life do you:

a) see a divorce attorney to begin dissolving the marriage and work on getting primary custody of the children whom you love and want to protect from the negative aspects of your divorce?

or

b) start hanging out in bars, attending college parties to play beer pong and engage in random hookups with members of the opposite sex?

According to Jon, for whatever inexplicable reason, he agreed to continue a marriage that was not a marriage. When he decided he was done pretending, he still made no movement to actually END the marriage, which would have been the next logical step. He just decided to party like a single man. Bizarre.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I completely agree with you OH, it just doesn't make sense for any half-way intelligent sane person to respond that way and I think Jon counts on some people's hate for Kate to not think about it too hard. If I told my husband what Jon says Kate told him, my husband (when he stopped laughing hysterically) would tell me that when night came HIS head would be on HIS pillow in HIS bed and if I didn't like it then I was free to go sleep in the guest room. The only way Jon's story makes any sense at all is if they had been arguing over the same issues for some time and this was the solution they both came up with. Who the first person was to suggest is it utterly inmaterial because in the end both parties had to agree that it was the acceptable next step for the relationship. You can't force an adult to move out of his own home and pretend anything unless he agreed.

I can't stop laughing at this quote from Cricket's post (Cricket, who said this? I am not sure if it's Jon but that's how it reads) Please remember that when I talked ill of them in the car, etc. that he was still under TLC’s contract. RFLMAO!!! He badmouthed family cause TLC told him to??? That is possibly the most ludicrous thing that has been said in this whole mess.

Remember also that Kate hasn't said what happened. She has repeated her sad little mantra about keeping details private ad-naseum. Not saying she hasn't commented.. there was the babysitter response and the money issue for example but she hasn't talked about the breakup of the marriage unless I missed it. So all we have it Jon's story which doesn't make sense. I am sure Kate's is chomping at the bit to toss dirt as soon as the divorce is finalized and I am sure it will be in book form. At that point we can take both stories, toss them in a blender and guess where the truth lies.

re: Jodie. It wasn't her who was originally bad-mouthing Jon/Kate, it was her sister. Jodie only went public when her sister's identity was discovered and Jodie confirmed the information to stop her from being slammed online. Glad to see she/Keven are back in the kids lives, hope it isn't a stunt and will be a lasting truce. Those kids can only benefit from having neutral family around them as I don't trust Kate or Jon to not be sliding little bitter pills into their conversations with the kids. I am sure in any divorce that is hard to avoid to some extent but worse when the kids are living in this bubble.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think Jon acted like many spouses would once they were told the marriage was over except for the tv cameras. It seems anything but bizarre. It actually seems typical.

W saw him begging Kate on tv to end the show and begin to live a private life again.

What seems bizarre to me is that a spouse would pick a tv show above saving their marriage. I suppose that just shows that Kate was done with the marriage or more likely felt more allegiances and love to being on tv than trying for one last ditch effort in trying to keep the family intact.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Thanks Lilfair, you reminded me of something else that Jon is getting away with. That final episode last year where they sat on the couch and Jon wanted the show to end and Kate didn't. At the time we all saw that as Jon choosing family and Kate picking money but of course now we all know that was not what we were seeing at all. Anytime you have new information you have to go back and reconsider old assumptions. Now we know that when that episode was filmed that the marriage was already over, that Jon was living in the garage and having an affair. His motivation wasn't at all to save the marriage, his motivation was to keep his extramarital activities private. Kate's motivation was probably still money LOL but even that is in a different light if she knew she was now a single parent.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
The Gosselin children have never needed the stability more that there Aunt Jodi and Uncle Kevin can provide. I am so pleased that they are being returning to their lives. It does not matter what Kate thinks or the motive of Jon.
As much as I would like to see the kids on tv it is good thing they the show is slowly fading to a blank tv screen.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Am I seeing auntie and uncle moved to sainthood status?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It seems fairly common for the man to move out when a marriage is ending. So Jon moving to another room as an interim step doesn't seem that odd to me.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Rissa, assumptions should not be made without realizing assumptions are often wrong. But let's assume...If Kate made him leave their marital bed and Jon moved to his in house apartment, then I don't think it's a leap to assume that Jon's last ditch effort to resume their marriage was heartfelt.

And if we assume that it is true that Kate called the marriage off except for TV purposes then it's also safe to assume that Kate didn't care what he did on his own time. It all blew up when the pics were taken.

These people can't have it both ways. And neither of them had the kids best interests in mind. Unlike a lot of people I don't see one of them being more at fault than the other. Taking an intact family away from the 8 kids will have ramifications long into their lives.

But assuming that Kate was devastated that Jon had girl friends seems disingenuous. IMO she was complicate in it all.

As I've said before this is not a black and white situation.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Lilfair. You think he was living in the garage, dating at least one woman, hitting the bars and still wanted to save his marriage? I think that ship had sailed long before that episode was filmed. Unless Jon was dumb enough to think that dating other women was a productive way to work on saving his marriage. Might be true. LOL Whatever Jon was being sincere about during that filming, it's clear it was not saving the marriage anymore.

Those two are so incredibly shallow/arrogant that they actually thought they could live a lie while continuing to rake in the money. Who knows how long they would have gotten away with it had Jon not started acting like a randy teenager. Can you imagine the public outcry had this happened 2-3 years after the marriage ended? It's outrageous that they dragged their children into their lies for those months, shamefull.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
"Those two are so incredibly shallow/arrogant that they actually thought they could live a lie while continuing to rake in the money."

Spot on correct Rissa..........Let's hope that their 15 minutes of fame is up..........

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Their 15 will never be up. Look at this thread alone. For some reason the public is very into this family and it'll b a long while before they are not a regular feature of People and Entertainment Tonight...

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Oh I dunno Julie. I know I enjoy jawing about them here with you guys but I haven't watched the show since the 2nd season with the exception of the premiere this year where they announced the separation and I haven't bought any magazines that would have them on the cover (not to avoid them, I just don't buy those types of magazines). At the end of the day it's the viewers who will feed the ads and those corp. who will keep the show on the air. I keep hearing news blurbs about their ratings dropping like a rock week after week so there is hope yet. LOL

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
anyone consider that Jon might be inviting them over to get back at Kate and it have nothing to do with the children?

Texannie, absolutely, it was my very first thought. I think that's exactly what it is. Most if not all things Jon does is to spite Kate. I'm guessing since he got busted on the money, feeling like Kate "won that round," he's feeling even more spiteful. Just my guess...but yes definitely the visit was to spite Kate, IMO.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Whether or not Jon is being spiteful, it is good for the children to spend time with their aunt and uncle. They must be elated.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It will only be good for the children if the aunt and uncle don't badmouth their mother; and it's not yet another adult game in this sordid mess. We don't know how emotionally mature aunt and uncle are, or how they will be with the children - so we really can't make any kind of judgment about whether it's a good thing or a bad thing.

However, if Jon and aunt/uncle say ugly things about mom, we do know it will be highly destructive for the children.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Ahnicka, I suspect you are right.

More then likely they had a "We Hate Kate Fest", and hopefully the kids didnt hear it.

Who knows what really happened. There are always 3 sides to every story. He said / She said / The Truth.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
From TMZ

Kate Gosselin's lawyer just released a statement regarding the judge's decision this morning to force Jon to hand over the cash he ripped out of the couple's joint bank account a few weeks ago:

"We are clearly pleased that the monies taken by Mr. Gosselin have been returned to the marital account, and we look forward to recouping additional monies taken by Mr. Gosselin at the time of the parties' private arbitration hearings.

A total of at least $235,000 was taken by Mr. Gosselin, and despite his initial comments denying responsibility, we have established that Ms. Gosselin needed emergency relief to prevent her economic claims from being compromised."

Kate was not at court in Pennsylvania for today's proceedings -- her lawyer explained that she was not required to be there in person ... she was only required to provide a "complete accounting of funds" ... which she did.

Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0V4NObpVK

Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Monday, October 26, 2009 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Not that Hailey is a catch, but does Jon really think a young girl like that is going to stay with him if he keeps with the gut growing? Looks like he's working pretty hard showing off how big he's getting. I've seen several pics of him sticking it out there. Maybe he really is trying to get on Celebrity Fat Club.