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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 6:21 pm
I insisted on new for certain things - just to be sure they met current safety standards: car seats, cribs, etc. Honestly, a crib more than a year or two old can be very dangerous.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 6:40 pm
I wanted new as well but if I had 8 kids I would of taken anything lol. I'm sure a church wouldn't give anything that would of harmed those babies.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 6:41 pm
I wouldnt take used car seats, play pens, cribs, swings, bottles. Toys, clothes are ok used but somethings are not. Thrift Stores here in AB are not allowed to sell used baby equipment anymore for safety reasons.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:04 pm
I looked up about their old church and saw where they had been kicked out Their church "kicked them out"? Nice church, there. I googled "Kate turns down cribs" and all I find are anonymous sources making this claim. Again, I see no foundation in this accusation, at this point. If her church "kicked them out", I don't blame anyone for not going back there. If the church kicked out the cameras, that may be a different story. I clearly remember Jon talking to his children about Jesus. But now, if he is converting, will he simply tell the kids that he changed his mind? In my opinion, any introduction to a change in religious beliefs at this difficult point in their young lives simply isn't a good idea...and is yet another example of Jon's less than caring attitude where his children and family are concerned. Considering that from all I've seen from reputable sources Jon has lied, cheated and stolen. He, himself, even admits to this. Kate has done none of those things. Jon even admits to that, too. Last night, as I watched the Shmuley-fest, Jon said that when he started cavorting around and telling his lies, "It would have been like a stab in the back..." if Kate had done it. Ummm...."would have been"???? It was EXACTLY like that, Jon. And you had nine knives sticking out of your family's back. I'm sorry, but I truly find it hard to find a place of respect in my own personal thought process for Jon Gosselin. Perhaps if he had said, at Temple during his confessions, that he had already been to Kate and had deeply and sincerely apologized to her, I could buy some of what he's saying. To me, me only, my personal opinion, he's still completely untrustworthy and disrespectful. I believe he's doing this public "I'm sorry" tour because his public "Hey, check me out, I'm a happening party boy with hot chicks by my side" tour didn't fly that well. And as for Hailey running from Jon...they BOTH need to run from eachother. Anyone remember the pictures of Hailey holding a gun to her friend's head?? Yeah...that's a good rold model for his children, right there.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:09 pm
Kar and Kitty I've read that cribs are not safe to be reused myself. Most people use them anyway and some buy them at garage sales, but there are some things I wouldn't skimp on and that's one of them.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:12 pm
Here we go...
Gee, I just can't understand at all why Kate might have a problem with some of the women Jon wants to take care of their children. (Do we have the tongue-in-cheek icon yet??)
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:37 pm
Part of Kate Gosselin still loves Jon http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/03/kate.gosselin.loves.jon/index.html
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:41 pm
Jon Gosselin Enjoys Time Back with the Kids www.people.com
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 7:46 pm
On ET tonight, Jon and Hailey had a bit of a tiff, and she kept saying she wanted to break it off but then he'd start crying, and she'd take him back. I don't think it's all an act. I think she does want out, and he, in his usual manipulative way, is guilting her into hanging on.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 8:16 pm
Here are a couple of Shmuley/Gosslin YouTubes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Ndxi5bQOI Some quotes from Jon from this one: "It's hard for me...to ask for forgiveness from someone who may never forgive me is tough. It's tough for me." "It's hard for me. It is hard for me. It's hard. I didn't really grow up this way. So...I don't blame my parents or my Grandparents but, it's like..." "I had an epiphany...I have a lot of epiphanies these days...I just like that word, "Epiphany." He then spends quite some time complaining about paparazzi and whining about how hard it is. He says when he was a child, he didn't really care when his Granparents and Parents divorced. Jon claims that they were better parents after the divorces and he only really knows his mother's side. He talks about his behavior being a model for his children. He claims he's been offered Amazing Race, Survivor and a show with the Octomom. In this second YouTube, he continues: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKJHK-4sQBQ&feature=related He says FAME was a big magnet for women who wanted him. He says his affairs filled a void in the respect he wanted from his wife. "Half the stuff I've done, I shouldn't have done, but I did them anyway." "Your kids, when they're little, they don't praise you. They just want more and more and more. Shmuley says often when his wife won't talk to him, it's because he is so absorbed in his own needs. Jon says he was hanging [in clubs and bars ]with friends who built him up, listened to him, surrounded him because he didn't get to go out for ten years. "I haven't had the opportunity to [apologize] to her privately. When the time comes, I'll apologize to her and I'll apologize for openly having relationships in the public eye. That was a huge mistake because if SHE would have done that to ME I would have been extremely pissed off. Excuse my French. Not because our relationship was over. It's like a stab in the back." My take: Things are mighty "Hard" for poor old Jon. If he has such strong distain for the paps, he really would do well to stop courting them. He apparently needs to "blame" someone for the way he behaves, even if it's not his parents and Grands, as he brings them up as a source of "blame." If he wants his behavior to be a role model for his children, why does he continue to "act out" on shows and filmed events nearly daily? He looks mighty happy as he talks about the women his fame-magnet drew to him, even as he says it was wrong. He seems disappointed that his children don't "praise" him. I wonder how many times Kate went out to clubs and bars and hung out with people who praised her and built her up and surrounded her in those same ten years Jon didn't get to go out. And finally, how hard is it, really, to MAKE the opportunity to apologize to someone privately. Must be might hard. Just like everything else in poor old Jon's life.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 8:34 pm
Hmm, the model/bartender/babysitter Stephanie said it wasn't THAT hard, as I recall.. 
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Tuesday, November 03, 2009 - 8:36 pm
LOL!!!!!!!!! Thank you for the might fine laugh, Sea!!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 4:36 am
This is exactly what annoys me about Jon. He talks about his disdain for the paps but then just yesterday there is video of him getting out of his car and just standing there having a whole dialogue with a bunch of them while his twins sat in the car and watched. I think when Jon says he doesn't like the paps what he really means is that he doesn't like the ones who dont just say really nice things about him, pump his ego, build him up. Sea: Nice image to wake up to. RFLOL ETA: Sorry, forgot link Jon speaks to paps again
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 5:34 am
"It's hard for me...to ask for forgiveness from someone who may never forgive me is tough. It's tough for me." absolutely, it's the hardest thing in the world to ask for forgiveness from someone who may not accept it, but if it comes from a truly repentant heart, it shouldn't matter. One shouldn't offer an apology to make themselves feel better.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:04 am
Again...KEEP JON GOSSELIN OFF THE AMAZING RACE!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:27 am
Now I would LOOOOOVE to see Jon and Kate as a team on TAR!! That would be VERY interesting to me!!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 8:38 am
Aww, please don't spoil my favorite reality show. Romber was bad enough. I think I might have to miss part of a season if Jon and Kate, or Jon and anyone were to be included. I've never missed an episode of TAR. I even watched one show while in the ICU.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:03 am
I'd feel sorry for the crew and all the innocent that might cross paths with Jon and Kate on The Amazing Race.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:09 am
"Your kids, when they're little, they don't praise you. They just want more and more and more." WTH!!
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:17 am
Well, it is a true statement but news flash...IT IS PARENTING! We all signed on for the job.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:37 am
I think that many kids "praise" their parents. I know mine do (and did when they were really little as well). They may not make eloquent speeches but they certainly do it in other ways. That happy smile when they see you. Now that is some of the best praise ever. 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:51 am
By the time my son was the age of his youngest, he regularly said "You are the best mom in the world." I think it may all be in how you teach them, about kindest and gratitude. Of course, it probably helped that since the day he was born I told him daily that I was the luckiest mom in the world to have such a wonderful child. Praise goes both ways, and is often best taught by example. 
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:53 am
I had a son-in-law who was about Jon's age when he was beaten down by circumstances and committed suicide. I don't like Jon very much, but I sure worry about his mindset and pray for his mental stability.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 9:59 am
Jimmer and Karuuna I couldn't agree with you more!!! Well said by both of you!! <and no I'm not kissing up to the moderators>
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 10:01 am
I think Jon was just stating a fact, not complaining. Although, I can see how it could be seen as complaining. I think sometimes when any of us state a not so pleasant fact, it often comes across as complaining. It happened this morning at my house when I casually mentioned how the shade from a tree in our yard leaves wet mud for a long time on the side of the deck. I really was just stating a fact, but DH thought I was complaining and replied "Well you're the one who wanted the goddam tree there".
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