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Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Yes, Happymom he did. He is still with Haily. He did say that he knows that he and Kate will never be together again, but he wants to work with her to discuss caring for the kids, for the sake of the kids and he apologized for the things he has done and said about Kate.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
From ETONLINE:

In an interview with ET airing Friday night, Jon Gosselin is apologizing to his estranged wife Kate.

He tells ET's Mary Hart that if he has one thing to say to Kate, it would be: "Kate, I just want to apologize, you know for my actions. You know, I'm sorry, you know, that I was an avoider and I didn't communicate properly. And now I have to take initiative, let's both go together, let's both mediate this thing out."

He also tells ET he plans to apologize to Kate face-to-face.

Jon goes on to explain to Mary that he's apologized to his eight children as well: "I've apologized to them, meaning you know, I'm sorry that I can't be here all the time."

He goes on to say, "I mean they're [aged] 5 and 8, but they understand tabloids, they understand paparazzi, they understand all that stuff. They know things that are always printed are not truth. ... They are media trained themselves, but when the time is right as a father I'll decide what I'm going to do with my kids, apologizing whys and what's right to say. I mean, that's why I am getting counseling and that's why I have a great team because I don't really know what to say to them that won't hurt them or harm them in any way."

I watched and he was pathetic.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
He was also on the Insider today - he got grilled - they also showed him Hailey's tweet which appeared to say she was breaking up with Jon...

How long ago was it discussed about PA child labor laws vs Calif laws?

I will say as the kids get older - it just doesnt feel right watching them go thru this - watching the Duggars the other night, it seemed to be that those kids are now starting to "act different" (ie normal to my home!! LOL) the one girl climbing on the sound guy -

and then you look at Little People Big world - those kids have always been older -

maybe the difference is how many shows they tape? I just dont want to watch anymore, it just feels sad -

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Friday, October 02, 2009 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Reader, it feels sad because it is sad.

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
Why is it that people like A.J. Hammer of HLN and obviously many others, feel that Jon can't possibly be genuine about having "an epiphany" and deciding that he wanted to be a better man, yet everybody buys that a woman that we have been watching domineer her family with cut downs, sarcasm and fear of the dreaded crumbs on the carpet and chewing gum, has suddenly had her own epiphany of sorts and is now fun Mommy, letting her kids gorge on smores around a campfire and wearing a popcorn box on her head?

I think that the biggest issue is that Jon is out there attempting to get his side of the story on the record without the benifit of network executives manipulating how he's portrayed.

TLC I would suspect realized early on that ratings would drop depicting a fractured family, and since the seeds of a bad daddy were already out there, they hung him out to dry and decided to step in and heavily advise and support Kate. She's obviously meticulously edited now to show only the struggling single mother doing her best to entertain her brood and Jon's out there dazed and confused stumbling around in the spot light trying to repair his reputation.

I think this has turned into a big case of Wag the Dog, spin and editing for the sake of money for the network.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think the dog is being wagged by Jon's attorney for the sake of money for Jon's attorney.

I think they find it interesting that he keeps claiming retroactive epiphany when he waited until after the name change for the show was announced to ACT as if he had had the epiphany but in the interim had continued to film with the children (but his epiphany said that was exploitation and the epiphany (or the attorney) came into the picture, yet he kept up the actions.

Or maybe he realized that he wasn't getting the motorcycle..

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 4:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
TLC doesn't need to hang Jon out to dry, he keeps doing it to himself. TLC isn't making him leave his kids to walk down to the gate and talk to the paps, TLC isn't making him get on TV and talk about his marriage ad nausea. If he would just KEEP QUIET there would be nothing to discuss. Look at Kate. It isn't that she has become any better a person but what is there to talk about that isn't just beating an old horse? How she HASN'T said anything about her marriage? Oh oh oh, how about we discuss how she HASN'T bashed Jon again week? Take last week for example, both of them kept their heads low and this thread was completely dead. What has changed this week? Oh ya, Jon and his attorney doing the media rounds again. Jon's public image is in his own hands.

Kelli, I can only speak for myself but I would be more likely to believe Jon's so-called epiphany if 1) he called Kate directly and didn't apologize to her through Mary Hart on network tv 2) sources with this new show weren't saying that he wants the kids to appear on it with him and 3) that his new best buddy the father of the year Michael Lohan wasn't constantly explaining Jon's REAL motives before (obviously) Jon tells him what he should say (for example it was Michael that said Jon doesn't care about the kids being filmed or not but he does want the exclusivity clause dropped so he can be on another show and this is how he is going to strong-arm TLC into doing that).

Holly
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07-22-2001

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 5:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Kellirippa, awesome post at 12:07 am, especially the first paragraph. You couldn't have said it better!


ETA: LOL to see title of thread has, once again, been changed!



Mindeegap
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07-20-2009

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mindeegap a private message Print Post    
Kate has said many times that she would and could go back to nursing to provide for her family if she has to. I believe she would because she is a survivor and from what I've seen, has always put providing for her children first.
I haven't heard Jon say anything about going back to work or any other means of supporting his family.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I can't imagine the cost of raising eight kids. Also they are the same age (twins and the six) so no hand me downs even and all the same expenses occur simultaneously. And to do it as a single parent while working full time and making a nurse's salary?

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Thanks Country.

I still don't understand his motive behind wanting to halt the divorce if he is not trying to get back with Kate. (not that I think she'd even be willing to consider getting back with him...I wouldn't) Maybe he used the wrong word when he said "halt". Maybe he didn't even use that word, maybe the media picked that word. Doesn't matter and I'm not going to check.

I haven't watched any recent shows. At present, I just have no interest.

Re: Duggars little girl climbing all over the camera guy, I doubt this is new behavior. I think we just never saw that type of behavior on their specials before their series started.

Re: Kate not being as much of a clean freak as in letting the kids have smores. I don't see that the kids were negatively affected so much by her being a clean freak. Even her melt down at Disney when the kids had ice cream on their clothes...I wish she hadn't acted that way...but I understand it. I think when the kids were little, she was totally overwhelmed (who wouldn't be with sextuplets) and afraid of more work re: laundry etc. Everyone is different. I don't see the kids being really negatively affected by the occasional or even more than occasional impatience over neatness. She just is not basically easy going about that and I think now that the kids are older and more self sufficient, she can be more relaxed or at least has taught herself to be more patient in that area. Also, maybe Jon didn't take the initiative as much to help keep the kids cleaner when they were younger. We never will really know even though he was shown on camera helping out. I don't see Kate addressing that in public ever and even if Jon were to address this issue, he hasn't shown to be truthful, so I don't trust what he says.

What I do see as pretty bad is Jon's behavior with these women because the kids know or will know and it will really affect them negatively for years, maybe their whole lives.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Rissa, ITA!!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But Jimmer, don't forget they already must have hundreds of thousands for the shows/appearances/books that have already happened. So it's not like they are starting from a struggling position. If they were smart, they should have the college funds already in place and (again if they did some financial planning) with the kind of $$ they've already made they should be able to live comfortably with or without the show.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Kate has said that each kid has their college fund all set. I just read that it costs $342,000 to raise a child. Multiply that times 8 and that's a real hefty sum.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I don't think the show was ever a good idea for the children. However, I also can understand any parent's desire to not have to worry about money with so many children. I think there are both pluses and minuses to the tv show idea.

However, I agree with Rissa. Kate has been respectably keeping her head down, refusing to comment on the divorce/marriage and not behaving outrageously.

Jon, on the other hand, can't keep relationships going with lawyers or women effectively and bounces all over the map like a racquetball on speed. For that reason alone, I don't believe in any epiphany or 'doing it for the sake of the kids' crap. As Rissa pointed out, if he was truly interested in making amends and doing the right thing, he would have done it privately - rather than with interviews and signs and more outrageous public displays.

I still see no emotional maturity there. Not a bit.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 4:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
I would just like to say that it's fun to watch what's happening with the title of the thread.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hey, have to keep it current.. sort of "Watch This Space" situation.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I agree Kappy. On Tv today Jon is looking at multimillion dollar homes in Cali.I want the 15 minutes of fame for him in particular to be up soon.Lord please keep the children safe,

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
LoL @ Kate being a survivor. NO way will she ever go back to a 'normal' job.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Kappy, I agree, lol. The title of the thread alone is keeping me amused, let alone the drama within!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Kelli, I think what you've written has a lot of merit. Many of us tuned in with amusement at the bickering of Kate and Jon and to see how horrible she'd treat him. When they split, the people on the street were largely in favor of Jon walking. I think TLC decided at that time to start to show a nicer, changed Kate. I think they figured if the show would go on it would be mostly about a single mom with 8 kids as Jon had already expressed he wasn't interested in continuing the show. So, all the media spin and grooming of Kate began to turn the public opinion tide aobut how uptight she is. Little did they know Jon would begin to misbehave and help them out in leaps and bounds. LOL.

Sorry, but I find Kate's claim that she'll go back to nursing a bit hallow. What parent here wouldn't find any job they needed to in order to feed their family if they lost their well paying job?? Of course we all would. I'd go back to cleaning toilets and emptying trash at the grocery store, like I did when I was 18, if that's what it took. It's just hot air. She's working toward a media gig as her new career. The pay is pretty good and the hours aren't too bad either.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Has this show been canceled?

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I, too, loved your post, Kellirippa. I feel that TLC is trying to re-invent Kate into a kinder, gentler person, while demonizing Jon because he no longer wants to be with them.

I've read too many posts on different sites from people who have gone to Kate's book signings saying she was 'cold' and the rules were "no cameras and don't look her in the face." What??

TLC needs to just give it up and let these two mediate or get through the divorce on their own without publicity wars.

What I find hypocritical is that on Aug. 3rd, Kate said she did NOT want Jon's girlfriends on the show because it wouldn't be good for her children and that's what she is concerned with. Yet, Jon decides enough filming..it's no longer good for the children, and he has an ulterior motive.

I feel Kate got him fired from the show to ensure no girlfriends were ever shown. She always has to be in control. I hope it backfired this time and the show can't go on.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Filming has been halted. They have shows "in the can" (lol.. probably in a computer) that have been filmed up through the Friday before Jon put up his mis-spelled sign banning the TLC cameras from the property. I assume that Kate could still be filmed off the property (like when she is speaking at the upcoming Women's conference in So Cal (the one Maria Shriver puts on). And I assume his attorneys and TLC's and Kate's are filing papers or whatever. But the show airs a new ep Monday, I think, so it is still running for now.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, October 03, 2009 - 10:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
LOL..just understood why the whole show title is crossed out. Very, very, funny!