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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
The kids certainly did look happy and it appears one of the older girls has braces (I don't remember her having those before).

I'd like to know too what the schedule is for who lives where. If it is 1 month each, that just seems it would be hard on the kids. To not see their mom for a month?? Granted, no schedule of spliting time between mom and dad is perfect, but I would think a more frequent switching, in a fairly constant rhythm would be preferred. I can't imagine how hard the transition would be to live in the mom-run house for one month where things are very strict and regimented and then to live in the dad-run house for one month where things are very loose and laxidaisical. If they are doing one month shifts, I hope the other parents has a lot of visitation during that month.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
We can say a lot about Jon and Kate and trash talk them (as individuals) but no one can say they don't love their kids and want this divorce to be as painless as humanly possible for the kids. They have always put the kids first...which might have been part of the marital problems.

They have a good read on their kids and if it's once a month or every other week....whatever it ends up being I think the two of them will make a good decision. I also think they would be flexible enough to know if they need to adjust things.

I have concerns that the lawyers might urge them to be more rigid than need be.

And as time goes by and the kids get older I predict that is when things will get more troublesome. What happens when one of them wants to re-mary or when Jon ends up having more kids. All these things might need to be addressed now in the divorce agreement.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
"I'm also empathize with Kate in the "I'm doing it all alone" mode. I've been there when separated and I also did things I didn't know I was capable all the while being in a daze at what was happening in my world."

It's happened twice to me.
My husband died when my kids were small and I had to take care of everything all alone, then the man I loved very much & who had lived with me for over 20 years died in March 2007 and once again I was left alone to do it all. Sometimes I still find myself repeating over and over, "I can do this, I can do this, I can make it through this".

I can only imagine how Kate must feel. Of course when you have lots & lots of money at hand life is easier in that way for Kate than most people. Not emotionally though, that would still be tough. So I know why she is saying she is becoming a can do person, etc.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Willsfan, sorry about how unfair life has been to you! Not fair at all. you make a very valid point about the finances. My friends that have been divorced found the financial struggle far worse than not having the skill to pitch a tent. They had to juggle monies to pay for groceries and rent and medical visits and school costs. Jon and Kate have no financial worries and that's half the battle. The kids still have a mom and dad they haven't been called to heaven. Vacations are over flowing, toys and earthly possessions are abundant so on the big grand scale of life Jon and Kate are still doing better than a lot of people. If Jon and Kate want sympathy from the public for raising kids as a single parent well, it's a bit silly.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think the tents were just a metaphor.. and of course money helps a bunch but the emotional pain is still there, especially for the one who hasn't moved on.

I wonder about the timing too. I've read about couples doing this "kids in the house, parents in and out" thing and in those cases it was a week at a time, but I suppose here it will also take into consideration if one of the parents have somewhere else to be. For Kate, since I think her book deals were on hold last I read, not sure.. I know she was invited to be/speak at the big women's conference Maria Shriver puts on here in So Cal, but that wouldn't span more than a few days. If Jon is really going to "design" little kids clothing with those horrid (just my opinion) logos like he's been wearing lately, well he sure did plan to have the kids model them, but hopefully that will be limited by the family court.. will he drag them around to "model" or will it be photo shoots near his new place in NY?

Guess we will see.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I do not think Kate was saying 'poor me, i have to put up a tent by myself'. I think her point was she is learning to do all sorts of things she never imagined she would be or could be doing by herself.
Just because someone may or may not have a better finanical situation, doesn't mean they adjust to doing things by themselves any easier.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Maybe she wasn't saying poor me but she was saying something about how she's risen to do this tent pitching...look at me. I'm just saying big deal about the one tent that wasn't even put together properly and she told us that the crew put the other tent up. The whole tent thing was strange. I was just pointing out, in response to another post about finding yourself raising kids alone due to the passing of beloved husbands. Usually it's a financial situation that specifically females find themselves struggling with after a divorce not being able to pitch a tent. So I'm pointing out that pitching or half way pitching a tent is a weird thing to brag about. ymmv

Oh, and pointing out to the girls when they said dad knows everything about tents- well he's not here seemed less than what the kids probably wanted to hear. Even is they hate each other she could have said...yes he's good at tent pitching ;).

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I get what you're saying Lil. I tell my daughter all the time that you don't have to say "poor me" to still convey that message in the tone of what you're saying.

Yes, and poor Kate, having kid after kid say where's daddy, he pitches the tent. Her response said a lot to me. LOL.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
If Jon was there he would have put up the tent. That's the sort of thing he did. He wasn't there, so Kate put it up. During the Emeril show, Kate was knowledgeable about cooking types of things, and Jon could peel garlic. They seemed to have had their tasks pretty well divided. Without the second parent, they will both have to step it up. I don't know why it's even an issue. I thought it was admirable that she made the attempt, and I will feel the same way if Jon cooks while Kate's gone. She would probably have their main meals prepared ahead of time, but if Jon cooks we'll see the kids talking about how Mommy does it this way or something. I'll wait with baited breath to see if Jon tells them that "Mommy's good at that" or whether he says something snide under his breath and rolls his eyes again.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Money definitely doesn't buy happiness. However, in identical circumstances, it is almost always better to have money than not have money. So I see what some people are saying.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Just to point out Jon does cook but Kate bans him from the kitchen. I doubt we'll see an entire show of Jon stepping up while making meal for the kids, while the crew cleans up the mess.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Jon himself has said numerous times that he doesn't cook. He made the Korean meal once and she asked if it could be a weekly thing. He said no. She then asked about monthly, and he said no. Fruits, yogurts, etc at lunchtime isn't cooking if that's what you're referring to.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
He said no to Kate's request because it was in jest because she berated him the whole time he was in the kitchen. He's talked about cooking with his father before. He seems very natural and capable in the kitchen when he's allowed in there.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I really don't see a 50-50 percent equal sharing of the time with the children. I have seen very few men equal to the task of all-kids-all-the-time. I guess we'll eventually find out if Jon is going to be the type of father he'd like to be.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Well now that he's decided to find his nads and all that, he can now show us how he can cook when it's his time with the kids.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I can't see this 50/50 thing working well either. I can't see Kate wanting jon and his girlfriend living in that house for weeks or a month at a time. I can totally see him moving on, marrying, having another kid or two and forgetting about his first family. I really hope that doesn't happen.

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
And I'll repeat that while having money makes life easier the emotional side of being alone can be very tough.
Since I don't know Kate personally I am not 100% sure if she really really misses Jon. I think she does, I mean they were in love once and it's hard not to have some good memories.BTW the kids are still adorable.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Funny, I hadn't noticed Mady's braces before, but in the rerun of the show where Jon was at home putting up the play equipment and where one of the little ones fell and bit through her lip, while Kate and Mady went to San Diego.. Mady had the braces then.. of course that was a fairly recent episode, I guess, from before the recent haitus.

Kinda nice that braces don't stand out so much as they did when I was a kid. I didn't have them myself but just one kid on our block did and he was so upset he HID all summer (most of us kids were outside most of the day). It just wasn't so common and was considered really expensive as well. After we moved to Calif, it was much more common.

I think what is a big deal to each of us is quite individual.. and me being a supportive friend, I'd just say YAY for whatever floated someone's boat as meeting a challenge. I'd rather tackle putting up a tent than cooking for 8 kids but she was having fun, it seemed. She was also sort of mocking herself.

Well if we are to belive Jon, he said, when they did the cooking show, that he HEATS but doesn't cook.. that could change, or he could do take out. We know he likes Starbucks.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Kate talked last season about requesting the cameras not follow them when get got them first put on. She said the braces were well received by Mady's friends so she felt it was ok to show an appt when Mady went to get them adjusted.

I thought she was being self deprecating too, Seam.

Lurkin
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02-15-2002

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 5:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurkin a private message Print Post    
I didn't see this posted, so excuse me if I missed it. I heard Kelli Ripa say that Kate Gosselin was going to be on the show I think she said Thursday.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
lordy, i need to proof my posts better!
that should say

Kate talked last season about requesting the cameras not follow them when Mady got them first put on. She said the braces were well received by Mady's friends so she felt it was ok to show an appt when Mady went to get them adjusted.

I thought she was being self deprecating too, Sea.


Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Looks like they've lost a few fans.

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/jon-and-kate-ratings-drop-61-percent-after-hiatus-200948

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't watch this show, but I've seen several articles about them and have seen pics. And I have one question... does Kate ever look happy? Because every time I see her, she's frowning or just looks plain miserable.

FWIW, I can't stand that haircut of hers!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Yes, she does Cost. I imagine being stalked by the media would make one frown.

Spitfire
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07-17-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
Costa if you click on the link directly above your post you will see a smile! :-)