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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 9:26 am
Nerovh, as someone who has lost and gained a ton over a lifetime, I can tell you that there is something inside you that has to click. No one can turn it on for you. Unless you are virtually imprisoned on a ranch with a quarter million dollar carrot hanging in your face. When the brother is ready, if he is ever ready, he will do it. I do not wish anyone bad with their effort to lose weight. Even people I don't like, like Ron. But like other's have said, I don't see Ron keeping the weight off. I think Mike has one thing going for him and that is Jillian. Since he has been with her, I see an inner glow that was not there before. He has a chance to keep it off. BUT... he has to get away from his home and family or I am very afraid he is going to back slide.
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Lotsofkids
Member
08-11-2007
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 11:39 am
Nerovh, I agree with you. The fact that Ron's wife was heavy and lost all that weight and has not helped the brother really bothers me!
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Mysti
Member
09-28-2005
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:24 pm
I agree Gidget, I think Mike's decision to stay with Jillian was his best ever ~ I don't think Bob would ever have helped him understand the anger he has towards his dad.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:32 pm
I don't watch BL regularly, but have enough this season to kind of know who's who. Mike's anger towards his dad? What's that about? How did Mike's recognizing this arise?
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 12:53 pm
Hell...I'm angry towards his Dad. I'm angry at myself for constantly battling my weight. Color... Jillian saw flashes of Mike's anger and kept poking at it until she got to the heart of the matter. Mike is angry that his Dad did not do something healthy, long before the boys were influenced to follow his bad example. It is a classic part of maturation. Being angry for your parents failures. Realizing they are only human too. And picking yourself up and taking responsibility for you. Mike is getting there. Usually college is a time to gain weight. I think Mike being away from his family will actually help him cement some new behaviors that he has learned at the ranch.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 2:49 pm
My son has a serious weight problem. He started gaining in high school and nothing I did helped. I stopped buying snack food. My skinny little daughter had to hide things like chips in her room and eat them in private. One day my son exploded at me when I made another healthy meal and told me he liked meat and potatoes and he didn't care how big he got. On his own, his weight has gotten out of control. He has had a heart attack and still doesn't do anything about it. I don't mention it any more because it makes him so angry and he is an adult. I walk every day, just a mile. While visiting him I've invited him to come along to keep me company under the ruse of being afraid to walk in his neighborhood. He just tells me it's safe and clicks the remote. All this is to say that if someone doesn't really care they aren't going to lose the weight. I gained 50 pounds when I quit smoking and hung onto it until last year when I started watching what I eat and walking. I have lost 45 pounds and am taking it easy on that last five pounds. I wasn't ready until last year but once I decided I wanted to lose, I lost. It has to come from within. Jillian does take the time to find out which button to push to make that happen.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 3:08 pm
Mamabatsy, congrats to you on your weight loss! I feel your pain about your son's weight problem. One of my daughters is 100 overweight and I worry about her health. She is only 24. I was so proud of her two nights ago when she called to tell me that she walked 3.4 miles. I hope she keeps it up.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 5:20 pm
For 5 long years I have tried everything I know to get someone I care about to loose weight. They are in their 50's, and close to 300 lbs. Their list of medications just keeps growing. I gave them information and talked with them about nutrition, I lived the example, I explained the relationship between all their medication needs and their weight along with potential side effects of their weight and medications. I even gave them a membership to 24 hour Fitness. Five long years I tried, this person talks a good game. Says multiple times how much they need to lose weight, etc....but 5 years later...they still weigh almost 300 lbs. Like Gidget said....it has to "click" for that person. No ONe Else can do it for them...and to nag and critize only makes them want to eat more. This person that I care deeply about, is eating themselves to death....and I have finally realized there is nothing I can do about it. So, I would never blame Mike's mom for not doing something about the son she has at home and his weight....maybe she has tried!
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Lardbrick
Member
01-16-2006
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 11:20 am
Regarding Ron and Mike: Yes, they have too much power and I think Ron should go at the next opportunity. I can't believe that he is so naive to think that others kept his sorry arse because he is not a threat, not because of who he is. And this is a competition. You should never make promises that might compromise your chances of winning.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 11:57 am
Kristen was below the yellow line 2 wks in a row, worked at least as hard as any of the rest, & still has probably the most wt to loose to be at a healthy wt. I would have sent her packing in a heart beat. The woman is due a huge wt. lose wk & I wouldn't chance going home for her. I've actually wandered if she maybe water packed a little thinking she would be safe thinking she had both browns on her side. Glad she's gone if that was her stratagy. Felipe is also good for a big wt loss. He really hasn't ever had a huge loss though, so maybe it just isn't in his make up. Helen - bless her heart, works so hard but the girl is looking normal sz already so as hard as she works, I don't think huge wkly numbers are in the cards for her. Tara is a machine & can win those challenges. She may have a low number wk coming up so I hope she keeps pushing it because I want her in the finals because she's impressed me the most of all of them this season. Ron & Mike need split. I truly believe that if one of them is below the line, a brown will go. I'm with those of you that believe Ron will be below that line on purpose and that's good news for the rest of them.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 2:45 pm
I agree with your reasoning for getting rid of Kristen, Texasdeb. But oddly, it seems Kristen did not lose a lot of weight. They showed her 2 months after she had left the ranch and I think she had lost about 16 more pounds in that 2 month time. Now maybe that was a teaser and she suddenly started dropping big. But at that event she was speaking, she still had a long way to go. And something just occured to me. Maybe she had lost enough to become pregnant. That would be wonderful.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 3:33 pm
True Boberg, we certainly don't know if Mom has tried. Have to say though, I have a 17 yr old dd who is not overweight at all but is really out of shape. She broke her back just over a year ago and all activity stopped. Her weight went up about 20 lbs mostly from losing muscle but also from replacing activity with pringles and ice cream, she is just.... soft. This morning I gave her the 30 minute warning... out of bed, grab a probiotic drink and we are out of here. One hour walk. We do it one night a week and one weekend morning and she doesn't have a choice. Every time is a battle or at least a pout-fest until we are actually out the door. Point being that Max is a minor and at that age.... if you live in my house, you follow my rules. I am the kind of person who would feel guilty forever if I didn't fight the good fight every day until they are adults and beyond my control. I don't know that Max's mom ISN'T doing that but I don't get the impression that that's the case. Also, like Dr Phil is fond of saying... Who is it that buys the food? Cooks the food? LOL Sorry to hear about your loved one!
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 3:54 pm
Gidget - or maybe she already IS pregnant! She's had time to get that way since the filming of her getting sent home. 16 lbs for someone like me over 2 months would be huge but, for someone coming off 16 wks at the ranch with over 100 lbs already shed - not so much.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 4:28 pm
As to who buys the food - believe me, teens buy their own food! I see it every day at school, in the stores. If they have a job and a car, they probably aren't eating at home much. One more reason to insist on dinners at home if possible, but it's not always possible either.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 4:37 pm
That's what I was thinking Tex. Getting pregnant seemed to be her number one motivation for losing the weight. And at her size, the doctor would likely allow her to continue losing just more carefully.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 6:42 pm
Our local high school removed all junk food machines. They can only buy fresh fruit, milk juice and other healthy snacks from the machines. The cafeteria also changed their offerings to a more healthy selection. The result is that most kids now bring their own snacks and go to local fast food places for lunch.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, April 26, 2009 - 8:41 pm
Karuuna stated: Tess, I heard it like you did, that Ron implied he would try to get Mike to vote to save Kristin. Blech. That's what I heard as well and then he went to his son and said "I (Ron) can't vote for her, but you can. He acts so sneaky, I don't want either him or Mike at the end, even though Mike is a nice person.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 9:11 am
Exactly Cricket. When I replayed that section, Ron reiterated to Kristin that he *promised* Kristin's mother that he would do his best to get BOTH Mike and Kristin to the end. AFter hearing that, and then watching Mike and Ron set her up for elimination, no wonder Kristin was upset. He lied to her and broke his promise to her mother.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, April 27, 2009 - 11:31 am
I saw Kristen on the cover of a magazine this week..I forgot which one, I was waiting on line @ Walmart and it showed her looking a lot thinner than the last update from the show. What I remember it said she went down to a size 14.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:36 am
From Ali_Sweeney on twitter: OMG. Set your dvrs. BL is SO GOOD tonight. You can't miss it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:40 am
Thanks Mary (and Ali). We love watching this show but I have the worst time remembering when it is on.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 11:52 am
Kristin was on the Today Show this morning, but I missed it. I decided to see if there was anything on their website and found this! Today Show HOLY MACKERAL!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:10 pm
I really hate that BL, AI and DWTS are all scheduled against each other.. not to mention having to juggle Fringe, The Mentalist, Without a Trace AND needing to record the news after Fringe because so often AI is piggish and runs over into Fringe's hour.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 3:21 pm
Interesting stuff, Mary! And it answers one of our speculations
quote:“I had an amazing week on the ranch. Exercisewise, the intensity was a lot higher. For me, I believe there’s a certain time in a woman’s month when her weight tends to fluctuate,” Steede said in explaining her unexpected weight gain.
Also seems she DID understand that Ron's top priority was Mike and they do mention that she had been WARNED previouisly not to be so loyal/allied with Ron. I'm really surprised they would leak her on covers and tv with so little time left until the final.. usually they want us to be stunned. And actually, unless she would have beaten Mike out at the end, she's better off where she is, going for the $100K prize. Bottom line, she went below that line.. But she sure sounds happy and like she is totally running with what she got from the show!
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Tuesday, April 28, 2009 - 5:44 pm
Snore... can't imagine what I am supposed to be so excited about tonight
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