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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I think it says a lot about Kate's "it's my way or the highway" personality type that she wouldn't even go to couples counseling, but he was willing to go (and possibly did?). And when Larry King asked her if the kids were in counseling, I thought she basically said: not yet, when the time is right. My take on it was that she really saw no need now. If not now, when???

The TMZ clip just seemed disjointed to me, like it was overedited.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Well, Kate said during one interview that JON refused to go to couple's counseling. So there you go.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Mr. "I miss New York and my life there" (said on the last show), despises Kate? Must be he smells his gravy train slipping away. If it smells like a jerk and acts like a jerk...

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I think every time Jon opens his mouth I believe him less and less.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
how can one go to couple's counseling alone??? wouldn't it just be couseling? LOL
i have heard kate say the same thing in interviews, huk'd.
frankly, they both need to quit giving interviews.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Texannie, you can go to marriage counseling alone. I'm not sure what's so funny? There are lots of people in this world seeking out help and advice for their marriage on their own.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen the interview where she said she would go to counseling and he refused. I'd like to know the timing of when each requested the other go to counseling with them and when it was refused. If Jon suggested it late last year and she refused. He may have gone to counseling alone and came to his conclusion that he was DUN! Then she may have offered to go as a last ditch effort and by then it was too late. Either way, this "he said - she said" game they are now playing in the media isn't doing either one any favors, nor the kids.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I think it was during the show when they announced their divorce, during one of Kate's couch sessions alone.

I don't think we'll hear much from Kate in retaliation. She said that she could talk about all of this when the kids were grown up. But by the time that happens, I'll be long dead.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
On "The View" today, they read a statement issued to ABC news from Kate in regard to Jon's latest interview that airs tonight.

"While I certainly have a very different perception of how our marriage dissolved, for the sake of my children I maintain that I'm not going to go into details of aspects I believe should remain private"

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Told ya

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
naja, i wasn't laughing at the idea of counseling/therapy at all.
i was just laughing at the irony of calling it "couple's counseling" rather than just counseling when one is going by themselves.
good for kate!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Told me? I am the one who thinks Kate shouldn't bother with interviews because NEVER tells us anything.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Texannie, that makes no sense. His going to therapy showed he did care and wanted to help his marriage.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
no no no Naja, lol! I meant that my post right above yours said that I didn't think Kate would talk about things!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
ok, Hukd...LOL

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
naja..i am NOT talking about his willingness to go or not. i was just trying to make a joke about calling it couple's counseling. it was obviously a lame joke since i am having to spend so much time explaining it! LOL
they both have said in interviews that they both have gone and the other refused, so who really knows the truth? we certainly don't.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I see Texannie :-)

To me, it looks like Kate only pipes up when something truly false is said about her. Like the affair with the bodyguard. But it's hard to argue the truth. I'm just saying that's how it looks to me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
he used some pretty strong words...despise, abuse..i would be hard pressed to not say something. at least she didn't try to retaliate and took the high road.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
When my ex and I got divorced, we had to take a class on how to co-parent as divorced parents.

The MAJOR stress in that class was to NOT badmouth the other parent, because when you do, you are also attacking your children.

Children see themselves as part of both of their parents - they identify with them, and that's healthy and normal. Think about all the times we say you look like your mother, or you have your daddy's sense of humor.

When you talk, especially so publicly, about how bad the other parent is, you are saying the same thing to your children- you are bad.

It's a terrible awful thing to do to children, and I have no respect for parents who do it.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
He despises her now....why he loved her last week!! I'm sorry but Jon has contridicted himself sooooo many times in his words and actions, I find it hard to believe a word he says.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I have a feeling Jon is just not a very articulate guy. I don't recall seeing much evidence over the years that he is. Also, like most guys, he probably has a hard time expressing those feelings. So, I'm sure on one hand he will always have love for her as the mother of his children, but on the other despises her actions toward him, etc. I agree that his choice of words is not good, not good at all. Those are not the kinds of things a child should hear one parent saying about the other. It sounds like they still need to go to counseling now so they can learn how to co-parent. How sad that this has turned into such a mess. I think many of us saw this battle coming and I don't think it's even close to being over.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
It would be a tad difficult to co-parent and go to those classes when Jon refuses to be in the same room as Kate, dontcha think?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i think that would be a wonderful if they did something like that kar. i am more worried about these interviews and how they will affect the kids than them being on the show.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
From the clip Escapee, I thought Jon stated he couldn't sit on the same interview couch with Kate because she doesn't say the same things in front of the camera as she does when it's not there. Counseling would be private and they should both be able to speak their mind.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Escapee, my ex & I also had to attend a class like Karuuna is talking about. We didn't have to attend the same class, but the class had to be completed before the judge would sign off on the divorce and custody agreement. So they could go to parenting classes and not be in the same room. Does anyone know if PA has a similar law re: divorces?