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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 3:57 pm
I mean common sense. He will get money from Kate, from his time on TLC etc...So in this lawsuit everyone loses Exactly, Angelic. I wonder if this has even crossed Kate's mind.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 4:25 pm
It will come from his half of the estate since they are a community property state. Put it all in a pot, divide it, then divide the debts. This would be his debt. It shouldn't affect Kate.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 4:32 pm
What should cross Kate's mind? That she was an idiot for having married a man that doesn't know the meaning of the words "exclusive contract"? Since he appears to be incapable of being faithful to a woman, I guess expecting him to be faithful to the company with whom he signed a contract was too much. Should it cross Kate's mind that if she had listened to Jon's encouragement to become an "independent contractor" that she would be in the same boat he is in? Because it seems to me that she's done a pretty good job of knowing where her bread is buttered. She's followed the rules and Jon has not and now he has to pay the price. Kate will NOT be responsible for a judgement against Jon. The suit was filed after their separation and as a result of Jon's behavior after the separation. The process of dividing up the money and such will occur BEFORE TLC collects any money. So if Kate and Jon have $2,000,000 in assets, Kate will get 1M, Jon will get 1M, and then Jon will have to pay any money out of his share. There is nothing for Kate to think about other than the fact that, as much this has been emotionally painful, separating her money from Jon's will ensure that the leeches he has surrounded himself with don't impact her financially.
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Kathyb
Member
05-17-2006
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 5:51 pm
I doubt that TLC would want to "punish" Kate for Jon's misdeeds. They seem to have a good working relationship with her. If any judgment included money owed by Kate, I bet TLC would waive it.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 6:31 pm
Unless I am missing something (always possible LOL) TLC is suing Jon for lost revenue due to his shutting down production. They are using his violation of the contract in order to try to recoup some of that lost income. Jon's shutting down production also cost Kate money so if anything I would think that Kate could also sue Jon for violation of the contract resulting in her losing income. She is also a victim of his actions not a co-conspirator. I don't think for a minute she would or should sue the father of her children but the courts would never make her lose even more money by making her pay for Jon's misdeeds. I just can't see any possible twisting of logic that would make that possible.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 7:57 pm
Divorce is complicated - and then if you add animosity or the I have to come out ahead of you - or... whatever... its just freakin sad!! we cant fix it! but we watch, and hope and pray it will all turn out, because somehow we've been a part of some precious lives... just so sad. It makes me appreciate (of all things!! lol... but still..) Demi Moore and Bruce Willus!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 3:28 pm
PA is not a community property state. From www.findlaw.com: " Community property. In Alaska, Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington, Wisconsin, and Puerto Rico, all property of a married person is classified as either community property (owned equally by both spouses) or the separate property of one spouse. At divorce, community property is generally divided equally between the spouses, while each spouse keeps his or her separate property. Equitable distribution. In all other states, assets and earnings accumulated during marriage are divided equitably (fairly), but not necessarily equally. In practice, often two-thirds of the assets go to the higher-wage earner and one-third to the other spouse. Division of property does not necessarily mean a physical division. Rather, the court may award each spouse a percentage of the total value of the property. Each spouse will get personal property, assets, and debts whose worth adds up to his or her percentage. (It is illegal for either spouse to hide assets in order to shield them from property division.)"
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 3:54 pm
In practice, often two-thirds of the assets go to the higher-wage earner and one-third to the other spouse. that seems like it should be the other way around.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 4:12 pm
Here is a site that has some interesting info: http://www.divorcesource.com/info/divorcelaws/pennsylvania.shtml According to that site, marital misconduct is not considered in property distribution but is considered for spousal support. re: spousal support: "The marital misconduct of either of the parties from the date of final separation shall not be considered by the court in its determinations relative to alimony, except that the court shall consider the abuse of one party by the other party. As used in this paragraph, "abuse" shall have the meaning given to it under Section 6102 (relating to definitions)." I was thinking that the date of final separation may be an issue in this divorce. According to this website: www.pafamilylawyers.com "Technically, there is no such thing as a "legal separation" in Pennsylvania. Separation for legal purposes means that one spouse conveys the intent to the other that he or she no longer desires to remain married. That intent may be conveyed in a number of ways including by filing a divorce complaint, by one spouse vacating the marital residence without an intent to return, or by informing the other spouse of the end of the marriage verbally, in writing, or by actions including cessation of marital relations and inhabiting a separate portion of the marital residence. As stated, in some circumstances parties can be separated while residing in the same household. The date of separation in a marriage impacts what constitutes the marital assets and debts as well as the timing of when a divorce decree can be finalized without the other spouse's consent." But I also saw somewhere that in PA, the date of legal separation is the date the divorce complaint was filed. I wonder what will happen in this case.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, November 15, 2009 - 5:23 pm
link snippets from 11/13/09 Usmagazine.com: "The New York Post reports that TLC will air the very last episode of the reality series Nov. 23 -- and the saga will end with a sitdown between future exes Jon and Kate Gosselin. ...The paper also clarifies that a previously announced Kate Plus 8 show will in fact not air as a regular series (although "occasional specials" with the same name are a possibility). Instead, TLC is developing a different show for Gosselin, 34 -- its details have yet been revealed. The reality mom also shot a pilot with Food Network's Paula Deen."
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 10:41 am
Joey Buttafuco..... I am not saying that Jon is comparable to Joey but it does irritate me that Jon thinks he has a career as an "entertainer". Entertaining by doing what ? Making babies ? however I do feel that he will end up as a gag line in jokes or on third rate reality shows. Now admit it when you see or hear of ole Joey you roll your eyes. Joey and Jon are like gum or toilet paper on your shoes............it won't go away.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:18 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/TV/11/13/jon.gosselin.sues.tlc/index.html Jon sues TLC 
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:48 pm
He's a waste of space. Kate didn't have a lawyer either but she had no problem sticking to the terms of the contract.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 12:53 pm
Twinkie, I agree. He claims they ruined his rep... he did that on his own.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 2:17 pm
LOL.. someone is trying to rehab his image and co-opt some ideas that I'm betting were Kate's (like visiting "cancer kids" as he puts it so charmingly). http://www.popeater.com/2009/11/10/jon-gosselin-holidays/ And returning from Hawaii for a couple of hours with the kids on Thanksgiving but oh how HARD it would be to, like, wrap packages.. just plain Jon, takin' his fame and doing good for the world.. and having "my landscapers" leave behind some leaves.. ambiance for sure..
quote:Jon Gosselin Promises the Holidays Will Be the Same for the Kids The holidays are coming and for families of divorce, it can be a difficult time of year -- something the Gosselin clan will have to get used to. But Jon Gosselin tells PopEater that everything will remain the same for his eight children despite his estrangement from wife Kate Gosselin, so that "they have the sense of security with everything that's going on." The 'Jon & Kate Plus 8' dad -- who will be spending both holidays with his kids -- details for us their family traditions like his apple crisp, and also discusses the foundation he set up with his brother to honor their father and help children in need. Read the Full Interview Are you getting ready for the holidays? I'm going to spend Thanksgiving with my kids when I get back from Hawaii, not all day, just like half the day. What are your plans for Christmas? Christmas Eve and Christmas day are joint-shared custody days, which means we're both in the house. So we'll be there. Have the kids started asking for presents yet? I haven't started my Christmas shopping yet. Don't put pressure on me! It will probably be all Internet based this year, pre-wrapped. You know, I'm a guy, when there's free gift wrap, I'm like, 'Yeah, yes please.' It's easier that way. Oh my goodness, doesn't your back hurt so much? And why do we sit on the floor and reach over, you can never reach the end of the wrapping paper, you need monkey arms, it's annoying. Nothing ever matches up. My mother is like the best wrapper on the planet. The pattern matches perfect and she puts Hershey kisses on top [of the gift.] I'm envious of her wrap jobs. What are your favorite family traditions to do at this time of the year? On Thanksgiving I make apple crisp, that's like my thing. They always ask for it. I juice up my mom's recipe, I add more sugar and stuff. So they are always happy about that. They do like apple picking and make cider, all the Pennsylvania stuff that we've been doing for years anyway. We still keep those traditions. We have an organic apple orchard that we go to. There are a couple of apple trees on my property, so we can pick those ... We do stuff outside. I have landscapers, but I still tell them to leave leaves, so we can make a big pile and jump through it ... We do stuff like that at Christmas, hanging the stockings. They do the stockings early Christmas morning. Kate makes sticky buns. We keep it all the same. Nothing has changed. That way they have the sense of security with everything that's going on. But, this year, there's a lot of paparazzi, so who knows? Every year it's different. Do they get up really early on Christmas? Oh yes, because they are used to school. For school they have to get up at 5 o'clock in the morning. And the parents [do, too]. You started a new foundation. What can you tell me about that? I started the Jon Gosselin Children's foundation in the name of my father. It's something that my brother and I wanted to do, but we never had the finances to do so. And obviously this year has been a pretty good year for me financially, so I started the foundation in memory of my father. My father was a children's dentist for 30 years and he dedicated one day a week for 30 years to handicapped children for free. It never really hit my brother and I. When my dad passed away that's when we started noticing at the viewing all these handicapped patients coming in. Now ... they were adults by now, but they were so thankful for all the work he did. He fixed their cavities and stuff like that. But he dedicated full service to them. That was amazing to me and my brothers and I always thought, "That's amazing what Dad did." All the time he spent with us and all the dedication he spent with us and he still had time to help other people. And that's what I want to do. I'm not a doctor obviously and the only way we could do this was start a foundation to allocate funds to children and a few parents that need help with medical bills. We're trying to get corporate sponsorships and hopefully everything will work out and we can continue the legacy of my father. Is there anything else you'd like to get involved with? Once you start a foundation, then other foundations call you. Now I'm not trying to reinvent the wheel because I've never ran [one] before. But you learn from other people and what they do and sometimes you can link foundations together, which would be great. Stuff I do, I visit cancer kids, not because it's a pat on the back for myself. It was just a turning point in my life going to St. Jude's. I did a film shoot with TLC last year at St. Jude's. That was the first time I really was shocked. I didn't know whether to laugh or cry. You have kids who are not going to make it. You're happy they are there because they are getting the best care in the world. But, it really touched my heart. Just because we showed up, they were happier just that one day. That's amazing you can change someone's life and attitude just by appearing. It's something that you have to realize within the public eye. People look to you and that's why I decided to change my life in recent months and started taking initiative for my actions, owning up to my mistakes and learning from them. It must be difficult to reconcile the fact that you're in the public eye, but it also gives you the opportunity to help people. Right. People always say to me, 'Jon, you are famous.' And I'm like, 'Yeah, OK, whatever.' They say, 'You can do two things with your fame. You can have your 15 minutes, or you can take your fame and do good for the world.' And that's what I'm trying to do.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 3:02 pm
I'm considering nominating him for sainthood.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 4:44 pm
Snort!
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 4:53 pm

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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 4:56 pm
LOL!!!
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 4:57 pm
St. John is a patron saint of priests....Jon may have a problem with that celibacy thing.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 5:04 pm
Not sure that will fit in with Rabbi Schmuley.. but not sure if they are still buddies or not.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 6:37 pm
Well, Kate certainly thinks she is also an entertainer....LOL exactly what does she do that entertains?? She has certainly never entertained me. She has said that she would like to be in films, doing what?? Oh wait, she can act, she can fake cry. I don't think Jon can possibly be compaired to Joey Buttafuco....my gosh he talked some young girl into shooting his wife.
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Glenrie
Member
03-24-2006
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 7:01 pm
Not that it matters but I compared Jon to Joey months ago. (too many pages, couldn't find it here) I haven't seen anything to change my mind. Jon can't even keep his story straight in the same interview. We keep it all the same. Nothing has changed. That way they have the sense of security with everything that's going on. But, this year, there's a lot of paparazzi, so who knows? Every year it's different. }} Also, what's this about Hawaii? I thought he promised to spend Thanksgiving with Hailey? (Not that I care lol)
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 7:14 pm
I thought Kate wanted to do something with animated children's films, not actually act in a film, (well maybe she wants to be the voice of an animated character) but, I could be wrong.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Monday, November 16, 2009 - 7:17 pm
I started the Jon Gosselin Children's foundation in the name of my father. Is Jon a Junior? If he is starting a foundation in the name of his dad, wouldn't it be named after his dad and not his? Those 'cancer kids' are sure gonna be pleased.
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