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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:30 pm
I agree with others, I can't watch this show any longer. It would be like watching a slow death. As I stated earlier, people who say they have had a "good" divorce, is like saying they had a "good" cancer, it's all bad, just a matter of degrees, and like cancer, it's insidious, touching everything, and destroying so much.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:34 pm
wow, that was very uncomfortable... very "Truman Show".. I do believe I have watched my last episode of J & K + 8. This is not entertainment.. I feel like a voyeur...
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:35 pm
Kate said this would have happened whether they had the TV show or not. Sadly, I think it may have. I do agree that others have probably been telling Jon he should stand up for himself more. However, I also believe that Kate did tell Jon it's over and they've been separated about 6 months. Jon has figured out he feels better not being emasculated by Kate on a daily basis. Both of them seem to love their children, but I wish them luck with keeping the children in the house. Kate already was feeling sorry for herself when she said there were going to be times when she couldn't be in the house. Although, she's got money now, so she can just fly off for mini-vacations. Kate kept intimating that this was what Jon wanted and she hoped he was good with his decision at this time, but I believe she drove him to the separation if she told him it's over. You know these men...they are soooo literal, lol. From listening to Kate tonight, though...(and she said the same thing over and over...producers?) she said it's been bad for...hesitation...a..long...time. Is that more than since last October? Seven to eight months was brought up as being very difficult, so I'm wondering exactly when it started first getting bad and why they didn't go to counseling at that time? Oh..has Kate had implants? I know when she had her tummy tuck she had a breast lift, but they seem bigger in the last few months and they are popping out of her clothes.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:37 pm
Sabbatia, this is their argument, not ours. ROFLMAO, Naja..we get soo drawn in, don't we?
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:38 pm
"she said it's been bad for...hesitation...a..long...time. Is that more than since last October? Seven to eight months was brought up as being very difficult, so I'm wondering exactly when it started first getting bad"..... I can say that I have noticed for the last couple of seasons that Kate always refered to the bedroom as "my" room.... That could be an indication?
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:43 pm
Ohhh, I missed that one, Kellirippa. I think it's been a couple of years at least. I haven't heard John growl in a long time. Interesting that the better Kate started looking is about the time the marriage started getting worse. One would have thought it would get better. I was wondering how the show could continue with the sextuplets starting Kindergarten. Now with this, I don't see it going beyond this year. I hope Jon does get a job. That is what he needs right now.
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Sajo
Member
06-18-2007
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:46 pm
Great Post Holly !!! I agree with everything you said.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:50 pm
does anyone have a copy of this open marraige contract that was signed....cause I don't recall actually seeing it. IF one was signed, it COULD have been a pityful attempt to buy time to try and salvage the marraige.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:52 pm
Kate was clearly upset talking about all of this. I don't know how it could be seen as acting. And Jon is excited for this new chapter of his life. Well good for him. <eye roll> He checked out, and she (much too late) tried to sort out what he wanted, but he wouldn't talk. And now he has anger towards her. Where were his gonads before? Must be the 24 year olds told him to man up (so his new chapter will just be about new women telling him how he should act) I will probably watch the rest of the season as long as I get to see the kids being cute, but I really don't want to see any more of the adult drama. As I said above, it won't be long before we hear that Jon has a new friend moved into his batchelor pad. Mark my words...'cause he's excited.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 7:54 pm
That whole open marriage thing has not been proven as far as I've seen (and I've followed this mess pretty carefully). Saying "In fact..." about this contract? Show us a link please.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:01 pm
I typed out what I think about Kate and her motives about 5 times and deleted each one because it sounded so horrible and I didn't mean it to sound that way...But I do believe Kate has found her calling, and her husband or friends that don't fit her calling get cut out. I believe Aunt Jodi and Jon's brother when they say Kate was the one to tell Jon to get out and it's over.
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Florin
Member
08-27-2006
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:01 pm
When Jon said I am only 32! My thoughts were you are nothing but a spoiled kid that needs go grow up. So now that you have money you want to be free to go sow wild oats etc. Does anyone really think he will go out and actually get a job or rather when not with the kids go run around being the playboy.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:02 pm
LOL Huk....exactly!! Kate needs closure right now. Unfortunately, filing for divorce is only the first step. It's going to be especially hard for Kate because of uncertainty and lack of control. Hopefully, she will accept that the future is going to be different, and start looking for ways to make life better...though with 8 kids it will be really hard. She stresses needing peace....and I TOTALLY understand that. Oh and Jon get a job?? PLEASE! He doesn't want a job...Jobs interfere with life!
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:02 pm
So, was the renewal of vows less than a year ago a complete farce?? Would they be so cruel to tell their kids they were doing it cause they will be married forever knowing things were on the rocks? And I may be a sap, but to me they seemed relatively sincere about the vows. I really question if they did anything to try to save their marriage at any point or just threw in the towel. And it's easy for Kate to say things wouldn't have been different without the show, but I don't see any way for them to know because the show impacted every aspect of their lives. Seems like a good PR thing to say for TLC though.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:02 pm
<Where were his gonads before> She had them in a vice grip, squeezing hard. I'm glad Jon is excited and hope he DOES find someone who appreciates him. She certainly didn't. And no, I don't have a link for you. Read back in this thread. Watch the video on RadarOnline where her OWN brother talks about it. As for Kate's acting, every word she utters is measured and unnatural. The only time I've seen her act on impulse was when she lunged at the kid to 'spank' her. Now that was definitely a real temper--no acting there! ;)
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:05 pm
I'm glad they've made if offical. Now Jon can take a deep sigh of relief. He's one step closer to being free'd from Kate as a wife. He deserves to be happy. I didn't watch but at some point I'll catch it.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:05 pm
UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:06 pm
<So, was the renewal of vows less than a year ago a complete farce?? > Certainly seems so, Lurk. Again, it all seemed very staged and scripted, right down to Kate's having to tell the kids about 25 times how they would all be together forevah <eyeroll> I guess it made for "good tv" though?
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:07 pm
Something up, Lori32? Sounds like you're choking on something! LOL
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:10 pm
OK, I have said that I'm not a Kate fan, but I really don't think she was acting through her soliloquies. I think she does what she thinks is necessary, which is to put on a mask so she can make it through. In a way, that is acting, but I think she is sincere about being sad about her marriage breaking up. That said, I think she really did try to sort out too late what he wanted and that, by the time she made that decision, the lines of communication had broken down so much that they needed outside intervention, which I'm thinking they never got because, by that time, Jon had emotionally washed his hands of her.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:12 pm
I think you're right, Tish. Too little, too late.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:17 pm
I'm sure Kate is upset! Her handy man, whipping boy, gopher is leaving. I'd be upset too. I agree about Kate being very scripted and "on" when the cameras are rolling. I wonder if she's the same way when the cameras are not around. It doesn't feel natural to me like it does with the Roloffs. One has to wonder if either one ever considered marriage therapy and suggested it. Did the other balk at it? I guess we won't know until the book comes out in 5 years or so.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:31 pm
Being familiar with the A personailty type versus non A personalilty type relationship...When the passive person all of sudden can't stand it any more and decides to bark back, the A personalilty can't stand the objection and their behaviour just get worse. The yelling is worse, the arguments are worse, as the Type A person will always win. ALWAYS!!! Jon chose not to back down to her any longer, she calls the shot and tells him "It's over". Kate can't deny her aggressive behaviour as it is all over the TV every week. I AM NOT SAYING JON IS RIGHT AND KATE IS WRONG. i am just saying this is what the ALPHA of the relationship does.
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Sajo
Member
06-18-2007
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:32 pm
<Where were his gonads before> <She had them in a vice grip, squeezing hard> hehehe. I wonder who will be, her next wiping boy. Or will she start taking it out on the kids. Like she did on Leya Sorry I`m a Jon Fan anyone else?
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Monday, June 22, 2009 - 8:37 pm
It really sounds like there was absolutely no attempt at therapy or counceling of any kind. I guess the feelings had become so toxic, or entrenched, ( at least on Jon's side), that therapy wouldn't have helped, I have a feeling that any love just died on Jon's side, and Kate may have been in denial. Who knows what lurks in people's hearts, and we all, are, but witnesses to the death of a marriage. How sad does that sound, and voyeuristic, as kellirippa mentioned?
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