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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:59 am
Lil little league games are open to both parents. Sorry, but I still say its easier to parent a child if live closer...
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:01 pm
Sorry there is not excuse to purposely move states away from your kids.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:04 pm
That's a good point. Lets do the balancing test... Business, contacts, girlfriend (NY) v. kids (PA) ...girlfriend v. kids... well I guess we know what weighted more in his decision; definitely not the kids.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:06 pm
When did the kids start playing little league? Have we seen them doing anything like scouts or music lessons or choir and dance or any kind of extra curricular activity? I don't blame Kate for Jon's escapades in NYC or for talking to the paps. Just saying I don't see her as a better parent than he is. No way no how. In the past I feel he was a better parent, seemed more involved with them on a day-to-day playing kind of level. Now, with all his "business" I'd say he's about even keel with her. They both have very important lives to run, you know! Stardom is knocking!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:11 pm
Kate's Travel Schedule: October 2, 2008 - Birmingham Women's Show (Birmingham, AL) October 11, 2008 - Southern Orlando Women's Show (Orlando, FL) October 19, 2008 - First Assembly of God (PA) November 2, 2008 - Central Assembly of God (Bossier City, LA) November 14 & 15, 2008 - Women of Purpose Conference (PA} This shows that Kate hardly leaves at all. Six days in six weeks is very seldom. If she's arranged it for times that Jon has with the kids, she'd hardly be missed. Even people in on going marriages should take about that amount of time for themselves.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:39 pm
Posted Oct 23rd 2009 1:52PM by TMZ Staff TMZ has learned at 1:23 PM ET -- 30 minutes ago from the time of this post -- Kate Gosselin's lawyers received an email from Jon Gosselin's Pennsylvania lawyer stating that he has $152,000 from Jon that will repay Kate for the money he looted from the joint account. As we first reported, the judge in the case ordered Jon to repay $180,000 -- Jon has already repaid $28,000 so the balance is $152,000. Under the terms of the judge's order, Jon is required to wire the money to Kate's lawyers. That has not been done yet. Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, tells TMZ if he gets the money today he'll cancel the court hearing on Monday. There's another $55,000 in dispute. Jon says Kate had no right to take the money. Kate says she spent it on household matters. The arbitrator will decide who's right at a later date. Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0Un0wDu0k
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:56 pm
I was going to say.. I'll believe the money was returned when the court says it was, not Jon's attorney. But, shows to go you.. at one time Jon denied taking that much money at all! I am glad it is the Pennsylvania lawyer saying he has the money, since the NY lawyer has been known for running up some crazy charges and I feared he would do as he has in the past and declare the money to be his and thus not returnable. Hope Jon will replace the lost interest (not that interest income is all that significant these days on money markets)
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 12:58 pm
They are old for little league or group activities. My 4 yr old is in the swim club.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 1:01 pm
Does is make anyone else feel sick that they even have $55,000 and $128,000 and $170,000 to fight over?! I'm not sure money is the root of all evil, but I don't think it's helped this family realize what's really important at all. They have so much in material goods, but they surely haven't found happiness.
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Wargod
Moderator
07-16-2001
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 1:11 pm
Little league goes from (depending on birthdate) 4 to 16 or 17 (can't remember the cut off age.) Caleb started at 4, but Kota had to wait til she was 5 because her birthday was after the cut off day.
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Willsfan
Member
09-04-2000
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 1:37 pm
Does is make anyone else feel sick that they even have $55,000 and $128,000 and $170,000 to fight over? No, why should it? It doesn't bother me any more than other people that earn a lot of money that are getting a divorce. People getting a divorce usually do fight over kids, money or the family pets. Fact of life. It's not just Jon & Kate.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 1:56 pm
Oh well its friday 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 1:59 pm
No, doesn't make me sick that most people on the board undoubtedly make more than I now take in, have much newer vehicles, newer tvs, undoubtedly most have a full sized refrigerator, heck, some have icemakers, even! (I have a little dorm sized fridge, no freezer).. or whatever the Gosselins or anyone else has. Sometimes I realize just how fortunate I am compared to many, but I don't feel sick for having whatever I do have. I try not to feel sick over "stars" getting a million an episode, but, that is their deal, not mine, doesn't mean they own me anything.
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Kathyb
Member
05-17-2006
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:14 pm
Playing with the children does not make a better parent. Parenting also requires a lot of planning, organization, teaching and guidance. I have seen Kate doing much more of that than Jon. Playing with them is easy compared to what else is involved in parenting.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:23 pm
Kathy I agree.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:30 pm
Does is make anyone else feel sick that they even have $55,000 and $128,000 and $170,000 to fight over?! I'm an accountant....if it isn't in my account, it's only a number. Actually, that's part of the reason I'm in the middle of a divorce. Money really doesn't mean anything to me. I have absolutey NO interest in "keeping up with the Jones" I have a home, a car to get me to and from work....I'm happy! The hubby, on the other hand was always wanting what someone else has. Whatever money they have....or whatever money is awarded is going to be needed. If they cancel that show, their 15 mins will be over very quickly, and it takes a lot to raise that many youngens.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 2:35 pm
So Kate is getting speach engagments? I would guess TLC approved them.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 3:35 pm
It doesn't bother me when other people have more money than I will ever have. I think at this point, I have a happier life than either Kate or Jon.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 4:16 pm
Kate has been traveling for approx. the last year or so, Kittyab. When they were still together, Jon watched the children @ home, so Kate could go to these events and sell her book(s.) From what I've read, the turnouts aren't that good anymore; hence Kate left earlier than was scheduled a week or so ago.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 4:44 pm
Seamonkey stated: But, shows to go you.. at one time Jon denied taking that much money at all! This is Jon's statement after Kate accused him of leaving her penniless. Kate said on the Today show this morning that Jon had taken out all of the money from their account leaving her with just $1000. Kate says she’s now broke and unable to pay her bills or provide for her family. Jon Says Kate is Lying About Bank Account But Jon blasts Kate’s claims, saying he didn’t leave her high and dry, and can prove it. On an episode of The Insider that will air tonight, Jon says, "I've never taken any money out because over ten years, Kate handled all the banking.” He continues, "Over the past four years of doing the show, we accrued $2,250,000. She says in the past week I took $230,000. I have withdrawn roughly $177,000 over the course of a year, which is less than 10 percent of what we made. That's like my paycheck.” Jon goes on to say that Kate is just out to make him look bad. And he even turns the tables on his ex-wife, saying, "She's hiding money. We have 11 bank accounts. That was just our joint account. She had a best-selling book. Where's that million dollars?" What Jon was upset about and what he denied was how Kate said he took it. He took the money over the course of a year. Someone mentioned why didn't Jon have to pay back $230,000. Kate spent $55,000, so Jon just has to pay back $180,000. I like how her attorney spins things though: Jon/Kate Gosselin Arbitrator - Money Return According to Kate's lawyer, Mark Momjian, "The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date." Jon is required to repay the loot by October 26 -- the next hearing -- or appear before the judge for a contempt proceeding. The judge also ordered Kate to provide an accounting of past expenses -- also due by Oct. 26. Which is it? Does she have to provide accounting or will it be renegotiated? Jon's a fool to pay the money back until the court date so that Kate will have to account for her $55,000. All Kate ever has to say is, "It's for my kids" and no problem. Double standard. Jon's name was smeared as a theif, etc., while Kate takes $55,000 and no problem. I'm still curious where Jon was supposed to get his money to live on.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 4:59 pm
I'm not sure Jon's name was smeared as a thief, I think he just came out looking like he always does; a liar. Cricket, I'm not sure how your post relates to Seamonkey's statement, she said: But, shows to go you.. at one time Jon denied taking that much money at all!...But my guess is that what she meant was Jon denied/lied about taking $180,000. 1st lie: I took $22,000. The Truth: $180,000 2nd lie: I have bank statements to prove it. **OK half a lie, he may have had bank statements to prove it, but I'm guessing he didn't show the statements that revealed the other $158,000. The Truth: Selective bank statements or doctored ones. 3rd lie: That's like my paycheck. The Truth: If that were the case he'd be able to keep the money. If it's just like your paycheck then why are you just now taking the $22k...oh wait I mean...$180k! 4th lie: [After it was ruled he has to return it.] I didn't know I couldn't take the money, but I only took $155,000. The Truth: He took $180,000. Those are just a few lies off the top of my head, but I think Sea's point is that Jon blatantly lied about taking the money, only initially claiming to have taken $22,000, and now he's been outted as taking $180,000. Like Sea said, "at one time Jon denied taking that much money at all."
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 5:04 pm
Ummmm if he was just taking his paycheck....shouldn't SOME of that paycheck have been to help support the kids? I know if my husband took HIS part of what was earned for the past yr and said MINE MINE MINE..I'd be saying you had living expenses out of that buster!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 5:20 pm
Well I don't think he bought/leased his place in Manhattan with air checks, so he got SOME money. His little single guy car was fairly pricey too. He doesn't look like he's been missing meals or drinks and I doubt that Hailey is paying for all his bar tabs and such. He did get free tickets for them both to go to France and could be that Michael Lohan financed his time in the Hamptons. But he has had some paying gigs here and there.. Vegas, and that casino near Mystic.. or maybe they didn't pay since he didn't show up and just sat on the front steps with Hailey. He was being paid by ET or one of those shows as well. He had money to shop at Gucci and got overly expensive presents for the twins recently (the start of the "fun daddy" hype, I'm sure.. let mommy do the grunt work and swoop in with laptops and ATVs (for 9 year olds!) Yes, I just stated that it is interestng that Jon has that chunk of money to return to the account.. surely if he was just taking his "salary" over many months, he would have been using his salary for expenses, so I'd have to think this hunk was of recent origin to still be together. His story HAS been evolving, for sure. His story about Kate has also evolved. I don't buy much of what he says about Kate and "Jon said... blah blah blah" certainly isn't proof of blah blah blah just because he said it.
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Kittyab
Member
07-15-2005
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 7:40 pm
Cricket, Jon is making money from his other appearances.... I am sure he will be ok. ET is paying him. Since he stopped the show, TLC aint paying him right now.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Friday, October 23, 2009 - 8:37 pm
Cricket, I'm not sure how your post relates to Seamonkey's statement, she said: But, shows to go you.. at one time Jon denied taking that much money at all!...But my guess is that what she meant was Jon denied/lied about taking $180,000. 1st lie: I took $22,000. The Truth: $180,000 I guess it's all in how you see it. I felt Kate was the liar in that she presented it as Jon just walked in one day and cleaned out their account. He DID only take $22,000 that week; however, over the course of a year he took a total of $177,000. As we've discussed before, Jon figured he never took a salary all the time they were filming; he knew they made over $2 million, so he thought it was okay to take some money for himself and his living expenses. There should have been better communication as to where Jon would be getting his money. He doesn't seem to know the passwords to the other accounts or possibly where they are. I can't agree that he lied. By Kate saying he took everything; she was more the liar in this case. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Everyone sees things differently. Jon's attorney was very upset with the allegations by Kate and her lawyer as well; however, there was supposedly a gag order after their last court date. Kate went on to ignore it and made a statement and then her lawyer slammed Jon, so Jon's lawyer had this to say: Jon's Attorney Comes Out Swinging at Kate snip: “Regrettably, the spirit of what I perceived to be the implied understanding that counsel for both sides would not address specifics of the financial issues in public, has, in my opinion, been compromised by Mr. Momjian (one of Kate Gosselin’s attorneys), whose statement to the media today mischaracterizes the facts and fails to address, for example, that there has been no determination or proof that the $55,000 alleged to have been taken by Kate Gosselin (in violation of the Arbitrator’s Order) was for family expenses, as alleged by Mr. Momjian, nor has there been a determination concerning the hundreds of thousands of dollars that Kate has failed to account for in violation of the Arbitrator’s Order – It may very well be determined that very substantial sums of money which Kate has failed to account for might have been misapplied and misused by Kate. As of now, Jon Gosselin chooses to give Kate the benefit of doubt, but we are all anxiously awaiting her compliance with the Arbitrator’s Order.” While this lawyer is waiting for compliance, as I posted above, Kate's lawyer is saying it might be re-arbitrated. I don't think that's what the order was. I hope Jon's lawyer follows through on this.
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