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Suzie
Member
05-18-2009
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:05 pm
It is airing again for anyone who didnt catch it the first time. Watching it again, these kids just break my heart. They are so beautiful and so innocent. I am torn as to how I feel about Jon and Kate. It always takes 2. Neither one gets off scott free here. She is deffinately a control freak with OCD and Jon is totally opposite and more young hearted and laid back. Thinking back on every show I have seen, I dont recall a whole lot of love shown between them. I watched the vow renewal last night and even with that, I didnt sense alot of closeness. They stood far apart from each other and I just didnt sense that they were that into it. I think they did it because maybe it seemed the right thing to do. And they did it at the 9 year and 2 month mark of their marriage...almost as if they knew by their 10th anniversary which is June 12, they wouldnt be together. Again it takes 2 here....I can see both sides but I do believe Jon stepped out on her. He looks guilty.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:30 pm
How do we all make money? I understand that mgm but my point was that I just don't think its as easy as just shutting down & walking away. They have a family of 10 and they need to prepare to get themselves back into the work force & normal life, and I don't think that'll be easy. I actually think they need too. I can't see them carrying on like this but they could be under contract for the show, the book signings..etc...I don't know.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:39 pm
Also,we must remember my motto,there are three sides to every story..His,Hers and the Truth...
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:43 pm
Angelicfairies, where have you been? and I totally agree w/ you. We are a minority on this board. I've gotten slammed for saying 1 thing against Ms. Kate. You've got to see the interview w/ Kate's brother and sister in law Jodi. They have no reason to lie and the interview is very telling. Kate refusing marriage counseling. Kate told Jon, "It's over. When she said she has no solution, I do. Cancel the show!!!! I see Mommy Dearest books in the future.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:51 pm
If they have truly separated, then isn't it disingenuous for TLC to continue with the show, contract or not? It's supposed to be about a family, not a broken family. Watching the birthday party on tonight's show really showed how different those two are. Kate's comment about the magician was "if he doesn't have a rabbit, he's dead meat!" Jon, on the other hand, totally "got" the magician and enjoyed him. Jon cracked me up when he made the comment that the rabbit must be on tranquilizers,lol. Really though, that was one very laid back rabbit to sit still while all those noisy kids pawed it.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 8:55 pm
My favorite part of the show was when the 3 boys were wrestling around. Aaden called Joel a goober weiner honey butt pooper.
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Happygal
Member
11-15-2004
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 9:03 pm
I thought it was a "heiny" butt....either way, it was cute.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 9:49 pm
Yes, step one should be CANCEL THE SHOW. Seems simple to me, but I don't think Kate can see that for some reason. I was so sad for her. And for him. And for the kids. Just so sad all around.
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Mush
Member
09-09-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:00 pm
I agree, Julieboo. How sad that whenever Kate talked about what Jon wanted to get away from, she made it sound like it was the kids, but whenever Jon talked about it, it was the "job" of reality TV. I guess that they just don't communicate at all. I know that this kind of thing is typical of way too many couples these days.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:03 pm
The episode seemed very focused on Kate and less and less on the kids. Poor Kate has to buy party favors and stuff a pinata and make goodie bags all by herself. Gee, what a tough life! And then her talking about it's all for the kids, all for the kids, no acknowledgement that she really loves this new career. Then when Jon says he quit his job, stays home all for the kids she makes a face. I'm sure she's furious. Jon is not quietly going along with her plans. He's acting out or acting up, throwing a monkey wrench in the middle of it. Shattering the perfect family image. Very sad, very hard to watch.
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Suzie
Member
05-18-2009
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:14 pm
Ya know, if they cancel the show, I will miss these beautiful children. I feel like they are mine. I will be sad to not see them or to follow the childrens lives. But whatever is best for them, should be done. However who knows if that will be done! If I could speak to Jon and Kate, first thing I would ask them is what drew you to together in the first place? Obviously they have lost whatever it is that first brought them together. Did anyone see the vow renewal? And if you did, did you sense alot of love going on between them? I didnt. I feel it was done just for the show of things and to try to convince their kids that mommy and daddy loved each other but I think the love had died out by then.
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Mush
Member
09-09-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:25 pm
When I saw the Hawaii episodes this weekend, my feeling was that it was all done because the resort wanted to advertise what a great place it was for weddings, not because anyone wanted to renew their wedding vows. Of course, this was after I felt like I'd watched non-stop commercials for all the places that they "visited," so I was in that frame of mind.
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:28 pm
Yeah, the interview with Kate's brother and sis in law is really telling. Its On Radar online I think. They used to be really close, and have cut all ties with Kate it seems. It must have gotten pretty bad for her own brother to come out like that....
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:29 pm
I still don't see how cancelling the show would make a difference in the marriage. Marriages don't fail because they are on television, otherwise the incidence of divorce in this country would be much lower. Marriages fail because the two people who are at the center of the marriage can't make it work. Turning the cameras off wouldn't make Kate treat Jon any differently. Turning the cameras off wouldn't make Jon stop yearning for his freedom. Turning the cameras off wouldn't make Kate content to stay at home. The cameras are the excuse, especially for Jon. That way he doesn't have to take responsibility for his own part in the failure of his marriage. Turning them off won't make everything all right with the marriage any more than staying together for the sake of the kids would. I saw nothing in the episode to indicate that Jon has any desire to be married to Kate any longer, cameras or not. I saw only a slight glimmer from Kate, and even then it was more that she didn't want to fail at the marriage than that she wanted to be married to Jon. It's sad, but this is reality. Relationships are complicated and they don't always work. I am extremely happy, though, that they seem determined to keep it from affecting the kids as much as possible. Those 8 children are going to have a difficult time and it's up to the adults to make the sacrifices necessary not to make it even harder.
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Mush
Member
09-09-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:33 pm
Honest communication is difficult when you are being filmed for a TV show. Working on a marriage is difficult to do when you are on a book tour. Stopping the show would give them the time and space to focus on other priorities.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:52 pm
Mush, that's assuming that they WANT to focus on their marriage. Is there any indication that they do? I'm not seeing it. Jon and Kate's communication has little to do with the cameras. She bosses him around and won't listen to a thing he says. He mutters and complains beneath is breath and occasionally flares up. Plus, they aren't living in the BB house. They actually DO have time, in the privacy of their own bedroom, to talk privately. The cameras aren't stopping them from talking, they either don't have the skills to do communicate or the desire. While you may be right about the book tour (which is apparently over) life doesn't stop to fix a marriage. Making a commitment to work on their marriage can happen even if the show is taking place. If, in that process, they decide that the show isn't working for them, that they would be happier without it, that's fine. But unless they've decided to work on their marriage, quitting the show will not make a difference and if they DO decide to work on the marriage, then the future of the show should be a topic, not a solution.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:56 pm
This was my first time watching the show ~ yes, out of curiosity as to what all the fuss is about. Sad situation all around. First impressions: She loves playing the martyr and she loves being a celeb. Even when Jon attempted to help at the birthday party, she literally grabbed things away from him as if she was the only one who could do it right. He's fed up with her control issues and with having the family being in the spotlight. She couldn't even give him credit for taking care of the kids during her book tour. She doesn't just want to continue to be a celeb, she doesn't want to share any of it. If she really cared about the kids more then anything else, she'd get the cameras out of their lives NOW. I don't see them reconciling because I can't see her giving up the attention she's become use to.
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Jennywa
Member
07-17-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:30 am
I have watched this show periodically, and I was always amazed how Kate put Jon down in so many ways. So I guess I'm not surprised at their problems. I don't know these people, but it seems to me if they really want to save their marriage, they need to get off TV!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:04 am
Heartbreaking. Most telling moment of the entire show was when Maddy (think it was Maddy?) walked away from the family photo. I can only imagine how much angst the kids have bundled up inside them right now with the tension btn their parents. 1) How long into school this morning until just one or more fellow students tells one or more of the Gosselins that they saw their parents on tv talking about how they might get divorced? How many will come home this afternoon sobbing because of it? 2) If they work this out then last night's episode will be a snapshot of a difficult time that was overcome with love and hard work. It they don't work it out then the kids will have a permanent, bitter reminder of their family falling apart. Ditto Jenny.... GET OFF TV!! Fix your family. Do an annual special, will be more than enough money to support the family. Kate can write another book about fixing a marriage on the edge. Then she can write a book about budgeting for a large family. Then she can write a book about the ultimate empty nest experience when 6 kids leave for college at one time. Bottom line is that money is not a reason to continue, so what is?
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:10 am
Another reality show couple fails. It's a jinx. The Hogans, Carmen Electra & Dave Navarro, Whitney & Bobby, Danny Bonaduce and the chick that married him after like a day but they somehow managed to stay together for several years despite his raging addiction problems until they went on tv., Britney and Kevin...Travis Barker and the blonde that didn't do anything besides sleep...the list goes on and on.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:48 am
Danny Bonaduce and the chick that married him after like a day but they somehow managed to stay together for several years despite his raging addiction problems until they went on tv., ...this just hit me funny 
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:52 am
Well, I watched the show last night because my curiosity got the best of me (and it was painful to watch even though I'm not as invested as most viewers are). I do have a couple of questions. Last night the comment was made that Jon hadn't been around (I thought they said he was traveling for work). But then, Jon said he quit his job two years ago. Where has he been if he wasn't home. Also, at the end of the show, Kate said they were having their "first" outdoors party at their house. Did they just buy this house?
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:53 am
I did notice last night that they showed Mady in a couple of very nice scenes. She was so good with Collin after his balloon flew away, and just gave him a sheet of stickers or something immediately calming him down. She was also hugging on one of the girls, I think it was Hannah. Leaving the photo shoot wasn't a big deal, IMO. She didn't throw a fit or anything, she just got up, and nobody called her back to take more pictures. I HOPE they weren't showing Kate and Mady in more kind moments just to sort of take the sting out of what is happening with J & K's marriage...I've always felt that they edit a certain way, and both Kate and Mady may have gotten more bad edits for some sinister reason. I don't know why I think this way but I do.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:56 am
really really sad. How when Jon was at the party, he didnt seem to "fit" in - then saying he had to go back and get the cake (how sad that she forgot the cake - so much emotions and details) how sad when he got there - he looked like an outsider - then Kate "bossed" him around - its the way they seem to have always communicate tho... Then when he was hugging (Alexis?) she said she wanted him to come home "daddy" THAT did break my heart! Yet, I wonder will Dr Phil get involved? I know his big line is "somebody's got to step up and be the hero" So with all their faults, they still are trying to provide for their kids, the kids do come first... and that's sad too - somehow you do have to make time for your relationship. I think last night was the first time Kate showed so many emotions. I think she tries very hard to put on a "TV" face... but I could see she's tired, and sad... and she wasnt blaming, or angry on TV... kids come first. with their many "paparazzi" encounters, the kids will know, do know... and I have to say Kate is a better mom than me - they dont watch TV! (they do watch DVD's and their show on dvd)
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 5:12 am
I agree with whoever said Jon better find himself a lawyer because it seems to be over. If Jon wants any sort of input in his childrens life he better get a divorce drcree that gives him written rights to continue parenting. If Kate finds a way to continue with her life style without Jon I think she'll take it.
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