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Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Beachcomber, I agree about what you've said regarding the Russian dance. I couldn't believe it was on the show. It was definitely more a folk dance, which is ok, but the quality wasn't up to what they've had before. I felt bad for the dancers having to do that routine. It sure didn't help them any.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Stormie, I know what you mean that there is something off this season. To me, it seems like the show is more about the choreographers than the dancers.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
There's not as much personality as last year imo.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think some of it stems from the "introducing new dance styles to America." That seems to be a platform Nigel stands on quite often. Sometimes it succeeds (the pas de deux). Sometimes it fails (the Russian folk dance last night). It's also nice that they are showcasing new choreographers, and the dancers WILL have to work with various choreographers if they continue in dance, but I agree... it does kinda seem like it's all about the choreographers this year and less about the dancers.

Ladyw
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06-28-2007

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladyw a private message Print Post    
>>> ... it does kinda seem like it's all about the choreographers this year and less about the dancers <<<<

I agree.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Yes they seem to spend an awful lot of time on the choreographers and going on about how great they are.

This is the first year I've watched the show and I'm amazed there aren't more comments about the Mary screaming all the time. I guess everyone is used to her. She drives us crazy and makes me long for Paula Abdul (which believe me takes a lot).

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
This is the first year I've watched the show and I'm amazed there aren't more comments about the Mary screaming all the time. I guess everyone is used to her.

I agree with your comments Jimmer. A little of Mary goes a long way. Yes, I guess I got used to her, but the screaming seems to come WAY too often this season. I think she needs to be a little more discriminating with it at this point. BTW, she is the reason that my mother (who really enjoys DWTS) does not watch SYTYCD with me. lol

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I just figured that was the way it was in the dance world...the choreographers have a vision and the dancers are just props used to interpret their visions. At least that's the way I explain some of the dances that they have put on in the past which seemed ridiculous to me (a very untrained eye) but they just raved about.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I didn't like Mary's choreography again. It's like the dancers stood in the middle of the stage for the longest time; not a lot of actual 'dancing' going on, but rather just body movement with feet planted on the floor.

I absolutely loved the last dance of the first half and all the dances in the second half. Whereas the judges raved about Mary's dance that I didn't like at all, I really liked the dance they panned. Go figure.

Kayla might find herself in the Bottom 3 again if the audience didn't like Mary's choreography. In my eyes, she's being upstaged by a few others, like Jeanine for instance. Jeanine is a firecracker and I can't wait to see her dance with a new partner.

Sportygirl
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06-14-2005

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportygirl a private message Print Post    
I really think Kaitlin and Jason will be going home tonight. The judges said some nice things about them but did really rave about them like the other couples.

Tyce seemed overly nice last night. Was he trying to make up for being so mean during the auditions?

I loved the addiction routine with Kupono and Kayla. It was really intense.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Cricket, do you mean Mia?

I agree that Jason and Caitlin are probably going home tonight. I'm sorrier about Caitlin than Jason.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Jimmer.. I actually went crazy the first year over Mary and didn't watch as much but for whatever reason I've been won over when I see how much her crazy enthusiasm means to the dancers.. if they can get Mary to scream (and notice that Nigel actually encourages her these days, oddly enough) they are so pleased and if they make the Hot Tamale Train even better.

LOL but if this is your first real season to see/hear Mary, I do understand your reaction.

But for me, Mary is a real supporter of the dancers and some of the judges, not as much.

As for the love fest with the choreographers.. I think it has always been there but is more pronouced this time around. And in some instances the choreography is amazing but wish they'd let the dancers take the spotlight more. However they seem to respect the choreographers too.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I feel the same way about Mary. I love watching the kids when they get a scream from her. Makes it worth it.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I've never viewed dancers as a prop to the choreographers, I have thought the dancers express a story or emotion that is created by the choreographer, much like actors and actress' do with the written story, all working together.

I agree about the choreographers, and I wonder if it looks this way bc the attention is divided between this show and the auditions for the next one in the fall. I would think that many of the background people are split or working one or the other, with new people maybe on both shows.

I noticed Mary's lack of screams as well, I usually mute her much more, lol. Nigel still annoys me, though, with what I perceive as negativity, rather than constructive criticism.

I was thinking Caitlin and Phillipe might be the ones to go, but I can't even tell, so you may be right about Caitlin and Jason. It will be a surprise if it's Brandon, Janette, Melissa, or Ade though, and I don't think Randi or Evan will go either. And I'd love to see professional Russian dancers tonight, so we can see how any of those dances are meant to be danced.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Just watched the Russian dance. Wow, that really was weak. I've seen better choreography at my high school's rendition of Fiddler on the roof. I hate it when the dancers get stuck with such poor choreography.

Mary and her screaming don't bother me, I can adjust the volume via remote. :-) The kids get a kick out of it, so I'm good with it.

Dixieh
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06-18-2009

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dixieh a private message Print Post    
I love the show...cannot stand Mary...hate the way she talks, laughs and that scream is enough to make me want to punch her. But that is why I have that lovely mute button on my remote.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Mary has gotten considerably worse this year. She seems to think it's all about her, and um, yeah, no. It's about the dancers. I really wish someone would tell her, it's just not cute any more. (I record the shows, though, so FF thru all of her comments!)

I think Caitlin or Kayla or Randi are potentials to go tonight. I think Kupono or Jason or (more likely) Evan are for the men.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
While I think if Caitlin and Jason are in the bottom 3 they will go home.

Just speculating -

Who would go home if Ade, Evan and Philip were in the bottom 3?

How about Randi, Melissa and Jeanine?

In this scenario, I could see them sending Evan and Randi home.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I agree, Evan and Randi.

So far, neither Melissa nor Jeanine have gotten "so so" feedback from the judges. Last week, Randi was dancing too "heavy".

Evan is probably going to go tonight if he is in the bottom 3. I can't imagine him being paired with one of the taller girls, doing a ballroom dance with her in heels. Randi was just slightly taller than him last night.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
why give Kayla a pass? she's been in the bottom how many times? I'd rather see her go than Randi, Melissa or Jeanine.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
In that scenario I would say Randi and Phillip. I hadn't thought about the height, so, I'm not sure, I don't know that it would be a factor though, especially since Debbie Allen, years ago, said people told her she was too short for dance (I think it was her).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think there is a huge difference between a short female and a short male. A short female can dance with pretty much anyone. A short male may not.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
What a shame that Sony or the Jackson family won't release the music to the show for a tribute.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I didn't think of that, but I'm not sure it would matter on this show, I think they would acclimate to whatever situation, I can't imagine height would be a deciding factor. Every time I see Evan, though, I think he'd be great in the role of James Cagney. I think that's the role Michael J. Fox said he wanted to play way back when before he was dx with parkinsons. I can see him also doing lots of broadway too, I just see him in these really great roles.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, July 09, 2009 - 6:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
So who's in the bottom 3?