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Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 7:50 am
I can't believe people want them to stay together and go to Marriage counseling...WHY? They don't love each other, there is no need to stay together for the kids.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 7:57 am
good point! People fall out of love then the resentment starts and that turns into anger. I feel bad for the whole situation, it's sad when a marriage breaks up and they cannot help how they feel.
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Cricket
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08-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:08 am
Actually, Kate filed for 'legal separation' but I don't think that really matters, because they were talking pretty final last night. I'm still trying to find what she meant by 'what Jon did.' All I could find was that he spent Father's Day with his family (children?) and there was a video of him rushing Aaden to a medical clinic with a bandaid on his forehead that the site (People.com) said happened Father's Day weekend. I thought that happened when Kate was in San Diego? Was that Aaden? I just can't get where that might cause Kate to file to protect her family? I'm not defending Jon, but in reading Kate's blog (when they were still happy) it appears that Jon got married @ 22; had twins @ 23 and sextuplets @ 26. Kate pushed for a baby right away, telling Jon with her problem they might not be able to get pregnant right away. However, they did (invitro.) After the twin girls, she wanted more children, Jon didn't want to do fertility again at that time. They had an opportunity to adopt a baby, but for some reason they turned the baby down. Kate was then sad, so John let her try fertility again and the rest is history. I feel that may be why he says, "I'm only 32." Maybe he feels he's been pressured for so many years and the relationship just isn't there. Because they started young, he now is having a midlife crisis. Kate won the battles, but lost the war. It may be that if her family was dysfunctional, Kate wanted to create the perfect family she never had and real life isn't always like our dreams. If she's smart, she'll start counseling immediately, as it seems the press is hounding her. They'll start bribing the older girls or tricking them. For her own well-being, I wish someone would convince her to go.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:37 am
So, so far this season they've had Emeril, American Chopper guys and the Cake boss.. I suppose Kat Von D will be stopping by to tatoo 8's on everybody... following that I'd like to see the Duggers get custody of all 8 kids and then have Amy Roloff come by, rip those rhinestone stud earrings out of Jon's ears and then knock Jon & Kate's heads together...
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Delurker
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08-19-2005
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:42 am
We(society in general) have no way of knowing whether either one of them is/are going/considering/already in counseling. Hopefully yes. As far as Kate "acting" last night, if she was, she deserves an award IMO. There is no way I could sit there and discuss my troubles without full out bawling like a baby. I believe she was thinking before speaking to try and avoid any misrepresentation of things by the media, etc. This whole situation is sad and I pray the children make it through without long-lasting ill effects, but that would be another story. Cricket, I agree with you on the theory of the dysfunctional family and creating a perfect family. It would explain alot, but as I said earlier, we really have no way of knowing what's happening when there are no cameras.
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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:42 am
Cricket, I saw a picture from Father's Day weekend and he was hugging a (oh let's guess 24 year old) woman. I'll see if I can find it
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Kappy
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06-29-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:45 am
Actions always speak louder then words. You may not like John but at least after last season, he was more then willing to remove his kids from the limelight. Kate is still saying "the show must go on". There was a program on another child that ask "Is it too late for John & Kate" or something to that effect. It was interesting to hear from people from their church. It sounds like the church donated a house for them or completed redid an entire house for them when the six were born.
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Irsnappy
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01-13-2009
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 8:45 am
that was such a sad show last night. All I saw was Jon saying "me me me". He said that he was always laid back and now he has finally stood up for himself and he is proud....standing up for yourself means cheating on your wife and leaving your children????? He may have been young when they got married but the fact is that he has a wife and 8 children NOW...take some responsibility Jon. So he is looking at apts. in NY....how will he be a part of his kids lives if he lives in NY...I had trouble sleeping last night, I couldn't help but think about how awful this is. I know Kate isn't an angel but please....as soon as he realizes that without Kate and the kids he has no real life he will come running back....I could go on and on, I am very angry at him....grrrr
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Mgmriver
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04-27-2009
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 9:01 am
Jon is lucky to cut marital ties with Kate. She never showed an inkling of loving Jon. Kate said last night that she doesn't want to be alone but she'll be hard pressed to even be asked for a cup of coffee from a man. Her reputation precedes her and men will stay clear of her except for her body guard if the rumors are true that she's been sleeping with him for a long time now. I took a very unscientific poll here at work. I asked 9 men if they are familiar with J&K+8 all were to some degree. I asked would you date her now that she's almost single again. The responses were funny mostly things like I rather poke my eyes out with hot coals. And all called Jon a saint for putting up with her while the kids were infants/young, most saying they would have left a lot sooner. It looks like she'll be a lone unless the body guard divorces his wife, if those rumors are true.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 9:03 am
I don't think Jon was interested in removing his children from the limelight at ALL. If it was about the kids, why wasn't it stated? No, he wanted to end the show because he was tired of being followed by the paps as he pursued his new exciting life. I did find the picture again. But this site isn't saying it was on Father's Day weekend. So here we go. The same picture posted at two different sites, each saying it was taken on a different day. My guess is that Jon DID have a girl over at the house on Father's Day weekend and the kids ratted him out (remember how he said they shared everything because with 8 kids, someone was always tattling?) http://evilbeetgossip.film.com/category/jon-gosselin/ The picture I mentioned is under the June 18th group of them.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 9:07 am
To the best of my knowledge, there have never been any "unseemly" photos posted anywhere of Kate doing anything that even remotely resembles cheating with her bodyguard. It is quite different from Jon... who has been photographed numerous times: being seen out in (multiple) bars, or getting into his new car as a young female was in the driver seat, or having a bikini wearing girl lying out on a towel at their compound, etc.
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Mgmriver
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04-27-2009
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 9:23 am
Because there are no pictures doesn't mean that Kate isn't playing around with the BG. It makes more sense that they'd keep it under wraps because BG is married. He always has a reason to be by her side so they can keep things behind closed doors, easily. If it's true that Kate told Jon months ago that it's over it makes sense that he'd be out partying he's not going to pine away after Kate. It sounds logical what Jon said about Kate calling it quits MONTHS ago and that she's all into her body guard. So if true that would make Kate "the other woman" ;), priceless. All this about the cheating on both sides is besides the point. The point is that they no longer want to be married to each other, so what, divorce happens to the best of them. And when the kids get older and realize that mom and body guard were playing footsy and mom set dad free, I doubt they'd blame dad for moving on. ~~Jon and Kate Gosselin have separated, and now TLC has decided it needs a little space too. A spokesperson for the cable channel says that with the exception of a clip show next Monday, the next new episode of "Jon & Kate Plus 8" won't air until August, according to the Los Angeles Times. The chaos surrounding the Gosselin marriage has wreaked havoc on the production schedule, and apparently there's not enough new footage to edit together the remaining 34 episodes left in the season. According to Kate Gosselin in Monday's episode, filming will continue, with Jon and Kate taking turns overseeing their brood. Meanwhile, the hour-long television special apparently wasn't enough, so the couple issued separate statements Monday night about their split. On the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" episode in which they announced their separation, both appeared resigned, a little relieved, and not terribly upset that their 10-year union had come to an end. They blamed a lack of communication compounded by the intense tabloid scrutiny, although Kate Gosselin says they probably would have broken up even without the world watching. But in her statement, Kate Gosselin is more excoriating: "Over the course of this weekend, Jon's activities have left me no choice but to file legal procedures in order to protect myself and our children," Kate said in a statement Monday night. "While there are reasons why it was appropriate and necessary for me to initiate this proceeding, I do not wish to discuss those reasons at this time, in the hope that all issues will be resolved amicably between Jon and myself." That seems a tad disingenuous, because TLC was promoting the heck out Monday's big announcement well before the weekend. We're left to wonder, are those "activities" Jon Gosselin's reported affair with 23-year-old schoolteacher Deanna Hummel? Or was he breathing too loudly again? Jon Gosselin's statement doesn't address the reason for the split, merely saying "It's not secret that the past six months or so have been very difficult for Kate and me ... I am of course deeply saddened that we are divorcing." People.com says that the papers were filed in Montgomery County, Pa., where divorce records are sealed.~~ http://www.nj.com/entertainment/celebrities/index.ssf/2009/06/jon_and_kate_plus_eight_produc.html
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Cyclope
Member
09-13-2005
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 9:27 am
Ok, I said I wasn't going to watch but I did One thing stood out for me, Jon said they will takes turn to be in the house with the kids and/or will do activities with the children separately so this means the children will always be followed by the cameras and the parents will have days off filming? hmmm THIS is to me the sign of exploitation. They can't stop the show because of the contract (who knows how many seasons left) so basically TLC owns the children... makes me think of the Dionne sisters back in Canada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dionne_quintuplets Anyway I was a bit uncomfortable watching the show, I hope they will be able to be civil to each other for the sake of the children.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:28 am
<That seems a tad disingenuous, because TLC was promoting the heck out Monday's big announcement well before the weekend. We're left to wonder, are those "activities" Jon Gosselin's reported affair with 23-year-old schoolteacher Deanna Hummel? Or was he breathing too loudly again?> Or maybe he went to the store and forgot to take a coupon again.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:28 am
Holly? No, wasn't referring specifically to you.
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Lotsofkids
Member
08-11-2007
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:29 am
I think I missed this info previously, but how big is their new house and on how many acres? did TLC buy them that land? It reminded of the Roloff's with the houses and stuff.
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:30 am
I really doubt that they are tied to this show because of a contract.. All either Jon or Kate would need to say publicly is that they are in crisis and need to stop the show. Once that was out there, there is no way that TLC would "force" them or these children to continue producing the show.. the backlash against TLC would far out-weigh any benefit they get from continuing.. As it stands right now, from reading opinions here on TVCH and other areas on the internet, Jon, Kate and TLC are likely all receiving some pressure to discontinue.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:34 am
Okey-dokey Rissa. Just wondered because, on checking, I didn 't see much of anything else posted about Mady in this thread. Guess I just don't understand what got you so upset then.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 10:57 am
I'm just glad that they are taking a hiatus from filming. Those kids need that time and space.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:02 am
Kate is going to need a huge income to support the kids, so as I see it, the show is necessary. The needed support sure couldn't come from unemployed Jon. I like the idea of the parents coming a going and leaving the kids in the house. That uprooting kids every other week is for the birds. I first heard of this a few years ago on Dr. Laura. I think it's a great idea.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:07 am
I remember Jon and or Kate said they let the kids watch their shows cuz they liked seeing themselves. I can't imagine them letting the kids watch the last few shows. Jon said it's better they split so the kids don't see them fighting all the time but they didn't mention if they sat them down and actually said mom and dad are splitting up? Thankfully the kids aren't in school right now because one of their classmates would probably bring up their parents woes. It was so cute last night when one of the boys playing in his crooked house said something like "my girlfriend is coming over", father like son LOL. I got a creepy feeling when the kids were playing "interview'. Not sure why it creeped me out but it did. Playing interview is innocent enough. TLC says they don't have enough footage....OMG- they probably have a ton - some very intense arguments caught on tape and I bet the kids are crying in the background and that's why they won't air it, and they shouldn't. I bet at some point those tapes will leak out. We'd get a more accurate assesment of the "reality" behind the failure of the marriage, as if that even matters.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:16 am
OG, given the fact that they're on season 5 of their show and the show earns somewhere in the range of $70,000 per episode, then it reasons that they must have millions stashed away. It's not as though they spend much on anything, what with all the freebies they've been getting over the years. And even if Jon worked back at his old techie job, how far would $40,000-$50,000/annum take them? Doesn't the 100 episode which they just recently showed mean that their show is now syndicated and will continue to pay out to them?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:16 am
Angelic, for me it's not a question of "they need marriage counseling NOW." What I question is why, as their marriage was deteriorating, did they never go or try to fix things. Especially with all those kids depending on them. And the fact is the kids WILL suffer with one parent always gone, as they are quite a handful to take care of. And IMHO hired help just is't the same. It also bugs me that years ago they were all over the TV talk show ciruit. I remember seeing them on Dr. Phil. Just checked sure enough it's up on YouTube. They went for advice for the kids, though dear Dr. Phil mostly threw money at the problem to make it go away. But the point is, if they were seeking help for the kids, why not for themselves before it deteriorated to this point. Then again who knows, maybe they were just seeking the payout there too. Shrug. Bottom line is in less then a year they went from a renewal of wedding vows to full blown divorce and rumors of affairs. There doesn't seem to be one drop of effort to try to work on their relationship, and seems to me even if they go through w/divorce that would help so they could at least be in a better spot to communicate and CO-parent. (btw bring on BB please!!!)
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:22 am
Hukd, I saw those father's day pics. Knowing what a health freak kate is, I would say it's not the woman he's greeting that has her upset...it would be those pics of him smoking. I KNOW she wouldn't approve of him doing that at the family home. The question remains, WHAT is he smoking in those pics? I've smoked many times in my lifetime, but that isn't a typical looking ciggie...and that ain't the way a normal person holds one.
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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001
| Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:23 am
Is it a fact that they never tried marriage counseling?
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