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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Texannie - you almost made me spit out my oatmeal.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I was just saying that many of the activities that Kate is criticized for, Jon also participates in .. free or not. He was happy to get those hair plugs (I've read that surely she nagged him into that, but I just don't see where his hair was headed.. off his head.. as part of his "image" for himself), tooth whitening, tanning, travelling.. he may moan about being in public, but he seems to be voluntarily in public (last seen in NJ shopping in high end stores) often and with no obligation to do so such as a book tour or filming the show. Of course he shouldn't have to hide in a cave, but he's the one complaining.

Yeah, she probably gets more work on her nails than he does, but if he wanted to, I'm sure he could do that, too.

But if he really bought a place in Utah, as has been "reported", was that a freebie, too? (I say reported with quotes because, who the heck knows..don't know that anyone has searched records or anything, like was done to find out how big the Roloff property was and what it was worth, etc.)

As for freebies, I say take 'em if you want.

Haven't watched last night's J/K yet, caught up in French Open tennis..

Interesting article.. well a little bit, spawned by the J/K situation.. pointing out that "reality" shows can hit even those couples already out in the limelight and "used" to it.

http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20282510,00.html

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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Sea, I know...poor old henpecked Jon was forced to take advantage of all those freebies by mean old domineering Kate.
I thought it was interesting last night that whenever Jon said kate was gone, 'she was working' but many times he said he was off with friends.

the link didn't work for me

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
LOL.. I didn't see that a sneaky mod had fixed the link, so when I tried again it worked, so I didn't have to sneak in and fix it myself.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 7:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
those sneaky mods!!!!

interesting article. The Loud family took a long time to recover from their experience too.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
You know, this show could work! As long as Kate and Jon never cross paths. One week we have Kate doing something fun with one or more kids. Another week we have Jon doing something fun with one or more kids.

Instead of just the Disneyland Divorcee Dad, we have the Disneyland Mom and the Disneyland Dad trying to outdo each other on who can be *perceived* as the better parent doing the most exciting thing with the kids!


Neko
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
I didn't realise they were filmed out of order, so for the second episode, I was thinking "At least they're referring to the kids as "ours" again, and not "mine" anymore."

LOL I guess that would explain why.

That was what really bothered me about the season premiere.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I watched a little of both shows off and on last night and I thought that in their couch sessions together Kate was the kindest to Jon I have ever seen her. I didn't really catch her snarking at him once. (This was in the scenes where he was telling her about going to the doctor with the daughter who fell.)

I really do get doing whatever you have to do to make a future for their children. They have a whole bunch of them that need all the same stuff at the same time - it's not like one kid outgrows something and another one can wear it - they have 6 who basically hit the same growth areas at the same time (more or less). If this has taken over their life and damaged their relationship then I am sorry, but I would have a lot more respect for Jon if he had worked it out instead of kind of more or less just taking himself out of the equation. Get a job!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I think it will be interesting to see if Jon will get a job when they split up, or if he'll just play and party and live off of whatever money he gets. (I do suspect the latter.)

I'm not convinced Kate would *let* Jon get a job. He already had a job: he's the housewife. He's the one that stays home so that Kate can travel and do her gig without too much guilt, and so she can keep singing the "we don't use nannies" tune. If Jon worked, they'd need a "real" nanny. GASP!

Might not work out too badly for the kids if Jon just continues in his dad/nanny role. When Kate is away he can live in the house, when Kate comes home he can move back out. They really should have built a mother-in-law house for Jon to live in. Maybe next season!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
They have a room over the garage that he is said to use, but seem to have room for another house, or convert the barn..

I just don't get that he's really home as much as he portrays.

I don't think Kate "made" him quit his job in the first place since his boss has said Jon was fired from the job for misuse of company equipment.. in another article he said Jon spent all his time online looking for money deals/donations for them..

Kate had told people that she suggested volunteer work, part time job, going back to finish his degree, but that hasn't happened. Heck, even being home, when the kids are in school/preschool/napping he could do online courses like some people actually do.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Sea, in one of last night's shows, they show him doing volunteer work with physically disabled people. Part of his snowboarding trip was helping with some kind of interesting device that let's them have the experience of skiing down the mountain. It was pretty cool.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
As much as Kate sees this TV gig as her gravy train to free stuff, free trips, makeovers, fancy clothes and celebrity; Jon may see it as his gravy train to being a slacker in style: ski trips, motor cycles, and not having to work at all -- just play. She's drawn to the celebrity and the glitz of it all. He's drawn to the not having to do any real work aspect of it all.

They really do seem like a mismatched pair. An example of how people grow apart.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
ITA Brenda

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I see it differently.

Kate works incredibly hard to give her family a lifestyle they could never have had if she was a nurse and Jon worked in IT.

Jon takes care of his children (and it's not like it's 24/7 like when the tups were tiny) and enjoys the rewards of Kate's work. His Utah home for when he wants to get away and snowboard, the nice car, an expensive chopper, a 4-wheeler, hair plugs, trips all over the place, and now...freedom to party like a single man.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
John may be laid back, but I really don't think he is lazy. Even Kate admits how hard he works with the kids and house.

Also, the kids are in preschool for only 3 hours a day. Jon drives them and it's not close-by. I think that gives John one hour or so of free time during the day without the kids. You really can't do much with that.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Oy, why do I care.

It never bothered me about any of the perks they receive. I was always happy for their trips and goodies. I thought how nice for this family. But now this show bothers me ( I didn't watch last night...eventually I'll see it in some rerun)now because it seems less wholesome and it seems rather contrived, which was ok in my mind when
they were a happy family. Does that make any sense?

I saw video of Kate at the beach with the kids and her bodyguard. Kate is wearing drop diamond earring....even if they aren't real, do people really wear drop diamond earrings to the beach?

Like I said I didn't watch last night

Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I am sorry but providing a big home, taking your kids on vacations to great places is great, but does it make you a grand parent? Not if you publically run around on your spouse, trash your spouse or put your marital problems out in a public forum for it all to get back to potentially harm your children.
They are both are guilty of some form of that and in my opinion is not either of them putting their children first as they keep claiming they do.
I think it is great they spend time with their children; all children deserve that.

All children in this world should be lucky enough to have what material things those children have.
But no child should have to have their parents issues put out in a forum that can come back and hurt them as these parents have done.
Some things are out of their control and I get that, but they have had control over what they publically say as well as their actions and I lost all respect for them as parents when they did that. At this point those kids need way more than a big house and private trip, they need parents to grow up.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I hear ya, Lilfair, perks don't bother me...Well, one time it did. I was expecting a real interview with Kate when she was on Bonnie Hunt Show, and her interview ended up being pretty much just a K-Mart commercial. I guess it was to fulfill her duties in return for all the free K-Mart stuff they get (or actual salary).

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well said Stacey!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't watch this show, and from what I've seen so far, definitely not interested. But I'm curious... the one thing I did hear is Kate claiming she wants security for her kids. So, by now, shouldn't they have saved enough to put all eight kids plus a slew of grandkids thru college? Hasn't this show been on a while now?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I saw video of Kate at the beach with the kids and her bodyguard. Kate is wearing drop diamond earring....even if they aren't real, do people really wear drop diamond earrings to the beach


I have a pair of semi hoop type earrings with 3 diamonds in each one that were from one of my mother's rings. i wear them every single day no matter what i am doing.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
It just seems that Kate has a drive, and determination, and after watching her the opening episode, I think she is re examining things, and she has become defensive in the media (and who wouldnt!) There was something about Jon that Kate loved, and married, ten as he lost not only the job that was posted, but that job with the PA gov't, and the job with Beth's dh - so his flaws are exposed for national viewing - as are Kate's flaws - (thank the Lord no one is exposed to my flaws!)

I think its interesting that the media is now covering "where is the money going" as well as child actors/vs child reality stars... (and I dont think anyone is finding fault or abuse maybe is a better term)

So that led me to thinking, IF Kate has set up trust funds with the money for the kids? or not it led me to thinking about any of the reality tv shows with minors - much like in early tv the child stars all lost fortunes to their parents mismanagement of funds, which led to the law - which led me to wonder... If after college would Kate give any money to the kids? With their lifestyle now, would they lose money with fancy cars and vacations?

are the kids "entitled" to any money? (they do have their college funded - but only at a PA state school and I"m not sure if that is in dollars or just for tuitiion)

and its all purely speculation on my part..

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
US Magazine claims Jon's 23 year old "pal" was in Utah with Jon on Kates Bday (that ep last night where he was skiing)

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/kate-gosselin-spends-...

Suzie
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05-18-2009

Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Suzie a private message Print Post    

I cant wait to see the sextuplets go off to kindergarten! Providing the show is still on of course, wouldn't that be a fun day of filming? Kate will be in tears again and can you imagine the night before? None of the kids would sleep and big sisters will be telling the little ones what is going to happen. What a cute episode it would be! I just adore the little ones and cant imagine not following their lives.