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Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I've never seen the show, but I can say 100% I'm on team Kate, I have never seen her gallavanting through the press drunk and smoking cigarettes with a 23-year old while avoiding responsibility for her 8 children (and doing what she could to prevent him from continuing to earn for the children).

That dude needs to grow up like 10 years ago. My biggest blame toward Kate would be that she married this dude in the first place. She may be an unbelievable %^$#@, but she's a responsible adult focused on raising her children.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Sabbatia, I am so glad you posted that. I don't think she is a brat at all. I think all kids act bratty at times. She is louder and more persistent then her twin, from what we've seen. Some kids tend to express emotions more strongly than others. She is also sweet, delightful, helpful and very happy at times.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
As I said yesterday, I've never met an eight year old that didn't have a little bit of brat in them.

I think it's a right of passage. :-)

It's how the parents deal with it that helps or hurts the child.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Gal I love your last post and ITA 100% !!!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Also per Hukd's summary in this case it was CARA being bratty/brattier but Mady continues to carry that bratty label.

And I've heard Jon in the past, on the show bark at the kids rather harshly.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Wednesday, November 25, 2009 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
How do we know that he didn't warn the kids nicely. As I said before we only saw what TLC wanted us to see and we have to remember that TLC is not going to paint Jon in a good light, so we have to remember editing.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 12:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
So, if Kate is currently being protected by TLC, does that mean Jon was the one being protected before, when they showed Kate yelling and snapping at him? Because the defense for Jon's behavior right now appears to be "it's the editing" but wouldn't that apply to Kate as well?

Additionally, if we are supposed to believe rumors about Kate's atrocious behavior from family and friends, shouldn't we believe Jon's current girlfriend who calls Jon a liar and an abuser?

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Sorry but I dont think Jon is acting like a Dad.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Onlyhuman, if I had Jon for a DH I would be frustrated and yell at him too. I think he was too laid back & lazy for Kate and that just drove her nuts. With 8 kids you need both parents helping, not one doing it half arse.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
CD...I for one am well aware of editing, BUT it is what it is. They didn't MAKE him yell at those girls. BTW, if it was edited to make him look bad, he would have told the Paps by now.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Jon was a decent guy in everyone's eyes until the day his wife told him it was over and wanted him to live above the attic and 'pretend' they were married so the show could go on.


Ummmm we don't know that it happened that way. That came from Jon, who told Kevin and Jodi.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
And we don't know that it didn't happen that way either. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone and I hope the Gosselin kids do too!

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
We wont know what really happened. Maybe had Jon not acted like a teenager, they could had worked on their marriage.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
ROFLMAO!

Good one, Texannie.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Yes, Texannie the media made him buy a place in NY. The media made him date several different women. Yes the media has the control over him.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
of course, it must have been the same conspiracy to make Kate look bad too............nah, it couldn't be, that would be just wrong and the media wouldn't be manipulating us like that. But wait, if the media isn't manipulating us, then jon must be doing all these 'bad' things??? i know there couldn't possibly a double standard, could there????
gosh, i am so confused..........

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Let's not make fun of other people's opinions, please. It's Thanksgiving. :-)

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I rather have Kate for a mom then Jon as a Dad. At least I knew I could count on her 24/7.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
<93> PM me if you need me.. Lwall7594@yahoo.com

Happy Thanksgiving all

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
I would like to clarify, I feel that TLC is the one that is showing Jon in a bad light. I just wish he could be cut a break and given a chance to make things right, and just maybe perhaps if Kate had treated him better and not asked him to leave, and maybe gone to counseling with him, just maybe they could have worked this all out without it turning into a circus.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 10:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I don't think she treated him all that badly.

We have no proof she asked him to leave.

They both seem to agree that it is irretrievable broken.

Jon was the one who wore the stupid tshirt.. TLC just didn't censor it like they did with his other ones and I think at that point he was already breaking his contract with them, but even IF they showed him in a bad light, he gave them the footage by acting as he did.

And that says nothing about all the extremely poor choices, interviews, statements, actions he has made in public, recorded, had filmed, etc., that had absolutely nothing to do with TLC, so TLC didn't make him look bad all those times, he did.

I guess I don't get just why he should be cut any breaks at this point.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Thursday, November 26, 2009 - 11:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
A perfect example of that from examiner.com

Jon Gosselin's ex-girlfriend, Hailey Glassman, has twittered that Jon has dumped his Grandma in order to hang out with Utah Ski Bunnies on Thanksgiving. Is this another lie from Jon Gosselin, or was he trying to throw off the paparazzi. Just a few days ago he told an x17 paparazzo that he was going to his Grandma's for Thanksgiving.

Seems like Hailey Glassman is on the war path and ready to out Jon at every turn, even promising to write a tell all book about her trysts with the still married father of eight


Now....did he go hang out with snowbunnies in Utah...I don't know. If he did, it was poor judgement, if he didn't...hangin with Hailey was poor judgement. Jon doesn't have to be edited to look bad. He does that all by himself.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 4:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
then TLC must have made kate look bad so that it would increase 'the buzz' about the show and get people to watch.
TLC no control over what other paps/news crews film.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
TLC is not making Jon do stupid stuff. He is doing that on his own. We can not blame the media or Networks for Jon or Kate's behaviors. They do that on thier own.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
There are many news agencies besides TLC that have reported on Jon's behavior. I don't think it can all be blamed on them.

If he didn't do those things, and give those interviews, there wouldn't be anything to report.