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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
The thing that a lot of us are wondering is why it appears Kate doesn't have any long standing relationships? She appears to be estranged from most all of her family now, even though a year or two ago she did have a relationship with Aunt Jodi and family. She appears to be estranged from much of Jon's family. I read she's estranged from the good friend who helped her write her first book.

There _appears_ be to a pattern. I say appears because we don't really know if she has any long term friends, but it appears she doesn't. That everyone either gets shoved out of her life or walks out and that to me points not at her extended family having a problem of some sort but at Kate having a problem of some sort.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Oh I agree with Lurk too, but I was specifically "Right on"-ing Rissa's last paragraph:


Does it really matter who is right/wrong? I could not really care less. My concern is with those kids. As a parent I would have shut down production so fast your head would have spun the first time I heard there was a 'I hate Maddy' website. The twins are ten now, right? Or about to be? Ya, they are hearing crap every single day from their classmates, about their mom being a be-yatch, about their dad having girlfriends. This is of course a bonus to what they heard last year which was that their mommy is a be-yatch and Maddy is just like her. Who cares about the marriage, IMO their bigger failure is not protecting their children. Just yesterday there was a clip of Jon playing with his kids in front of the paps. They own how many acres? He has to take the kids down to the gate to play? Is he feeling all smug in his... it's my property, i have the right to use all of it... while his kids hear the paps yell out questions about his marriage? Doesn't matter to me about their marriage except that it's interesting gossip but the kids matter and Kate/Jon both REALLY dropped the ball on that issue IMO.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Agreed. i'm still amazed they are going to sit on TV and talk about divorcing. It's so obvious they haven't seen a good marriage counselor or they would already know how wrong this is for the kids.

And shame on the people who are putting up a website to hate on a child.

I have a 7 year old and I'm not sure kids tease each other about parents. Maybe they do if your parents are high profile?? It seems they mostly tease kids about kid stuff. So, that aspect doesn't worry me as much as the airing of dirty laundry on TV does.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I read online today that Jon was supposedly looking at an apartment in Trump Tower. If this is true it seems incredible that he would pay the obviously high rates for even a 1 bedroom NYC apartment when he has 8 kids to take care of. And while Reading, PA is fairly close to NYC one would think that the he would live close to the kids. Then this NYC apartment hunting story could be a big old fib.
They cannot be that "rich"; not with that many kids to clothe, feed and educate.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
Is the big anouncement on the first episode tonight or the second one?

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
My guide says the "announcement" is in the episode titled "Houses and Big Changes".
9 pm eastern, 8 pm central.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Watch them say Kate and Jon are leasing an apartment in NY for when Kate is traveling..

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Why do I get the feeling that some will be disappointed if they don't announce they are divorcing??

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Dfennessey, I've never seen the show (no cable or satellite), but I'm guessing at the end of the second.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Just an FYI...

TMZ did a search for the filing of divorce papers and, to date, there has been no filing.

Personally, I can't wait for it to be over, and the truth, whatever it is, to come out.
I'll be on Dial-Up tonight in a different location where TLC is unavailable to me, so I'm hoping (selfishly) for some major good spoiling in here.
hint hint

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Tess - thank you for sharing your pain, you are a wonderfully strong soul!

Even tho its a Reality Show, its sad that so many can speculate on their lives - I think this is one show that will live on forever, whatever the lessons are - it will be brought up over and over again - and that is sad for the kids... reminds me of that old song "Bless the Beasts and the Children, for in this world they have no voice, they have no choice..."

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I just hope the announcement is the cancellation of the show!

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
I would hate to see anyone get a divorce. I would not mind if they said they were cancelling the show to work on their marriage. I think they deserve that.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Beekind - I'm sure this thread will be a hoppin!!

Julie - seriously I think everyone says that, few believe it - and TLC is laughing and running all the way to the bank - imo - It seems the more paparazzi press, the more covers they get, the more and bigger ratings the hsow gets - this "leave them guessing" is a ratings gold mine for tonight I would think...

and thanks for sending me to tmz! lol (plea deal for Chris Brown, Speidi headed back to I'm a Celebrity...) but most disturbing is the video of Jon outside his home signing autographs and telling the peoples - to watch the show Monday night for the announcement...

1st when I heard he was signing autographs, I thought, well Kate wouldnt like that - they arent making money on it. Then I thought, wait its Father's Day - cant he spend the time with his kids? Which led me to wonder if TLC didnt send him out there to pimp him for ratings... and shame on me for spending time on it! (giving TLC what they want!)

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I will be disapointed if they DO announce they are separating but can't see any other likely outcome at this point. If they were planning on shutting down the show, retreating and fixing the family would they wait until after the announcement to begin and in the meantime keep giving snitty answers to paps at the end of their driveway while muttering that he has no idea where his wife is? My initial reaction was to hope for the best but Jon's behavior since (Kate being invisible the last week) has me doubting we will see anything happy/hopefull come out of this.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
This is ratings gold for TLC. People who've never watched the who are tuning in and seeing ads for other shows they may try as well.

There are certainly some of us here who think divorce may be the next best step for all involved, not just Kate and Jon. I can't imagine what the day-to-day life has been like for those kids when the cameras are not there. Kids are not stupid and they have to be picking up on the tensions between the parents. I've never been a fan of staying together just for the kids. Two happy separate parents seems like a better option than two unhappy, bickering but living together parents.

I'd be happy to hear they are seeking marriage counseling and were going to stop talking about their marriage problems to us and just have Kate on the show and Jon wouldn't have to be on if he didn't want. That would be great!

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
But if they do end up getting a divorce do not badger each other to the kids. Jon will always be their father and Kate will always be their mother. Jon and Kate are the ones who chose to get married and have kids. The kids did not force them to get married and have kids with each other.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Exactly Dfennessey!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Thanks Brenda! And I think you hit the nail on the head with the rating gold aspect. Heck look I'm a perfect example...and I just HATE that lol. But it got me watching out of curiosity.

Now granted, this is based only on my gut feeling, but I think the show and all that has gone along with it is why the marriage is in such trouble. First is the stress of 2 sets of multiples. Add to that America coming into your home each week and the celebrity that has gone along with it and it's a recipe for doom IMHO.

I've now seem most of this seasons episodes and noticed something about them. They seem to have become a sad outlet for both Jon and Kate to put their own spin on things, instead of focusing on the kids. All of a sudden Kate is embracing the fans and being oh so endlessly tired. Jon is reinforcing how he will be there for the kids.

One thing I have respected Jon for, is he has often been left alone caring for the kids while Kate traveled on the book and lecture circuit. Unlike Kate who repeatedly plays the sympathy "I'm so tired" and "it's ok I'm doing all this all alone" woe is me card, Jon just does it. At most he mentions it in passing. It's annoying me big time how Kate keeps doing that, and she seems oblivious that Jon has done the exact same thing and a pity party hasn't been thrown when it happened. Clearly there is more going on then we all know, or should know, but this has been make crystal clear.

I personally wish they would announce they are cutting the camera's and will take a year to see if they can PRIVATELY save their marriage, and beg for the Paparazzi to let them try. Sadly I feel the time for that has passed, but I hope I'm wrong.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
jon's martyrdom is expressed in statements like "I'm a stay at home dad" or "I may be doing something fun now, but tomorrow, I am a full time dad". He has been making very sure we all know he is a stay at home dad.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
But he is a stay-at-home dad. How does acknowledging it amount to martyrdom?

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Would be a more effective statement if he wasn't standing outside a bar at the time. (oh that was completely uncalled for LOL)

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
LMAO Rissa!

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
This is pretty funny, imo.

www.nydailynews.com...octomom_vs_kate_gosselin_megamommy_smackdown

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Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 22, 2009 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
TMZ and People.com are reporting that Jon and Kate just filed papers for divorce. (and Chris Brown made a plea deal, no jail time, probabtion and community service)