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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 4:11 pm
I am not defending any of the coming out of the woodwork people, I personally think they should shut their mouth for the kid's sake, I could care less about the adults they are talking about at this point. My point is not to defend them but I bet that it isn't so much that they have come out of the woodwork as much as it is that the woodwork is all being shredded. This still continues to be the top story on so many media outlets. I am betting that if you knew Kate for 6 months back in '83 they are banging on your door. Doesn't mean they should speak but I bet it isn't as much them seeking an outlet (like her brother did) as an outlet is being created. Another annoying aspect of the media. I am so over this story. I am still sad for the kids but all the adults in this situation make me ill. From the parents, the reporters, anyone that is talking, all of them. It is so unhealthy for the kids
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 4:14 pm
Actually Huk, it's not really just coming out of the woodwork, these stories have been around for years. I can remember right here on this board discussing some of this stuff about a year and half ago. re: $5 allowance. Here I go defending Kate again even though I am certainly not in her fan club. LOL When dh and I were just starting out, we were putting aside every cent for a down payment and bills and we had ourselves on a super tight budget. If it was Kate who was in charge of that budget, well then thats the role they both assigned to her. Like I said, I have heard this stuff for years so it's not like they were raking in the show cash and Jon was still on a $5 allowance.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 4:40 pm
My husband commutes to work,he travels about 35-40 miles each way every day he works.He is a garbage man so #1,carrying or eating your lunch in a garbage truck is just plain gross so he hits the $1 menu when he DOES eat.He usually just waits until he gets home,as he goes in around Midnight and comes in about noon-2 pm. (he snacks on sunflower seeds and the like) Now,typically he makes it on about $60 which I give him on Friday,and then $20 more On Wednesday. So $80...Which breaks down to $16 per day on a 5 day week or $13 on a 6 day week. Which when you factor in gas,food and occasional necessities,is really doesn't leave him money for anything else.People (mainly older men whose children have left the nest) give him a hard time over it and call it his "allowance" but he takes it with a grain of salt.Because he also knows that I have a certain amount allotted weekly for groceries and household costs.(School expenses and gas when school is in)Anyhoo,didn't mean to ramble on,but I get irritated when people go into the "poor me's " for Jon. Especially since I saw him leave and return with a cooler for work on the show,and He drove the smaller vehicle that probably was easier on gas costs.Oh and the fact that they had FOUR times the kids we have!! PS-Wanna make it clear I am not directing this at anyone posting here,I am just putting in my Non-Cents..LOL
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 4:42 pm
Rissa, thank you for going where I was afraid to go...the $5 allowance thing. According to the report, this was when she was pregnant with the 6. Before a TV show (or even a special) and the $$$$ those things generate. My ex and I were also on an extremely tight budget when we were first married. We had agreed that I'd be a stay-at-home mom and made sacrifices to make that happen. I was cutting corners like crazy - coupons, shopping different stores to get the best deal, as little A/C as possible to save on the electric bill, etc. One time he asked me for money and I said "but I just gave you $5 yesterday" and since he didn't have to worry about gassing up the car or buying his lunch (no place close + 1/2 hour lunch = lunchmate) I was livid. How dare he fritter away $5 that I'd worked so hard to save? lol I mentioned much earlier in the thread that I can't stand heavy breathing either, so when it first aired ('Jon, stop breathing so hard') that I've said that myself to DH. He laughed about it and said that I'd probably be happier if he didn't breathe at all. "Yes, dear, there are those times". All of this to say that I'm so glad my family isn't televised. I'd hate to read what people would have to say about my dysfunctional family. But dysfunction must work for us - it's been 14 years & counting.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 4:57 pm
same here blue,15 years and counting. And for people that don't know us well,let's say it takes getting used to.We are "bickerers" I always say we have little tiffs here and there and thats what saves us from the big blowouts..
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 5:24 pm
LOL well my husband calls to ask if he can spend 1.96 to get a coffee. I often have wondered what he coworkers think if they hear those phone calls.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 5:43 pm
Lori, your husband sounds like a real gem. Misty, you have your husband trained right mine comes home with, for example, a $1200.00 antique cigar box that arrived with bore holes in it and then saw it destroyed a few months later by our freaked-out cat. I WISH he'd call about a cup of coffee. No one needs an antique cigar box with bore holes in it, especially not us. Topic? I don't watch this show, but even I know Jon needs to get off his ass and earn a living wage. He also needs to put his children before himself, which means keeping his pants zipped and his ass at home with his family. I'd be pissed if I were Kate, too, except she picked the slacker.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 7:33 pm
"I don't watch this show, but even I know Jon needs to get off his ass and earn a living wage. He also needs to put his children before himself, which means keeping his pants zipped and his ass at home with his family." OMG...I am laughing AND agreeing so hard right now....
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 7:50 pm
I think one probably needs to watch the show to really understand what going home to Kate is really like! 
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 7:56 pm
Damn, been married over 20 years and it never occurred to me to tell my husband what he should eat for lunch.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 8:00 pm
Lilfair....thats why you have been married for 20yrs......
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 8:23 pm
I also wondered about that $5 allowance...when it was. I was wondering if it was when she went back to work as a nurse after the tups were born and Jon had lost his job. Or maybe another time when money was very tight for them. We've certainly had times where we could never afford $5 a day to do whatever we want with. That is $25 per wk if you only count wkdays and x4=$100 per mo! Even if it was only for lunch, and I didn't read that it was, it is still much cheaper to brown bag it. just sayin' ... not directing it at anyone or trying to be preachy in any way I have a quote from an old magazine on my bulletin board " ...your responsibilities as a parent outweigh your privileges as a vacationer." It was talking about taking trips with kids, but it certainly applies to all aspects of life as a parent. Just get rid of the word vactioner. It appears Jon did not behave that way. He certainly is on tv apologizing for some inappropriate behavior. The thing is, he is on camera in the company of women and apologizing for something. Kate has not been photographed doing anything inappropriate. Any accusations about her having an affair or even the allowance thing might be total lies, but there is truth to Jon being out late with women. I am not Kate's biggest fan, I do not think she has treated Jon appropriately at times. I don't think Jon has treated her appropriately at times either. But I have a lot of sympathy for her right now and none for him. I hope all will be ok for the kids. I think Kate will do her best, but it is hard to be the best parent when you are grieving the end of a marriage, even if their marriage isn't really over and they do work things out eventually, it will still be the end of what it used to be. Not that Jon won't grieve for it either. I just have no sympathy for him right now because of his inappropriate behavior caught on tape late at night with other women even if he didn't cheat on Kate.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 8:54 pm
It isn't that I want DH to ask to spend 2.00, it's just that I take care of the finances and things are pretty tight at times. Maybe Jon should have reworded what he said. Perhaps it wasn't that he quit his job in order to stay home, but that once he was fired he chose to stay home with the kids, whether it was him deciding or Kate deciding. It just seems to me that they lost track of their relationship, whether its because of the cameras/money or the hectic life of having eight children. However, many marriages go through something similar it just isn't tracked on cameras.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 9:01 pm
exactly Mistysmoke......relationships face this crud all the time.... nothing is written in stone....but its not all on camera.....!!
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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Friday, May 29, 2009 - 10:40 pm
I really hope that people do not watch the show and it will get cancelled...for the families sake. The trouble is that people will watch a train wreck! I watched last week and I got a really awful feeling like I was looking in someone's window or listening in on a phone call. It wasn't the same as watching Big Brother some how...maybe because BB is all for show and the participants know what they are in for. But that Monday show had too much real painful angst and I don't think I should be contributing in any way. I do not look at car wrecks on the road or train wrecks on tv. Just my own humble opinion.
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 4:52 am
I missed something... Who told their husband what to eat for lunch?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 8:31 am
Well in truth there are lessons to be learned from trainwrecks.. seriously.. perhaps there will be any number of couples who will reflect on how they might look/seem on camera and maybe just mellow out a bit or TALK about things. Maybe someone will get a hug instead of an insult. Look at a car wreck and you can see if someone is already helping or if you should maybe pull over and call it in or note the location or other info. But I sure know what you mean, SG. I'll watch, probably, have from the beginning and I'm not a Neilsen family so doubt I'm officially counted. You are correct that this season opener was HUGE ratings wise: Entertainment Weekly magazine is reporting "Their home life may be in ruins, but Jon and Kate Gosselin still know how to throw a party!
quote:The fifth season premiere of Jon & Kate Plus Eight attracted a staggering 9.8 million viewers on May 25, setting new records for TLC's highly publicized show and beating the broadcast networks. The hour-plus episode - mainly focusing on the sextuplets' fifth-birthday bash - more than doubled the 4.6 million who caught the show's season 4 finals in March, as scandal-loving rubberneckers tuned in to hear the couple address tabloid reports of infidelity and divorce".. more in the article, but not much.
A chart..
Season | Episode | Date | Viewers | 1 | premiere | April 2007 | 1.4 mil | 3 | Premiere | January 2008 | 1.7 mil | 4 | Premiere | June 2008 | 1.7 mil | $ | Finale | March 2009 | 4.6 mil | 5 | Premiere | May 2009 | 9.8 mil |
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Txhazeleyes
Member
02-12-2008
| Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 1:30 pm
Did anyone else notice Jon's voice sounded sluggish? Either like he was on some medication or maybe because he is just so against being there, i don't know. But he definitely sounded different comparing to any other episode I've seen before.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 2:04 pm
He tends to sound that way and always look a little like that and then so many recent clips are with quite a suntan/burn on his face, some after he was skiing earlier in the year.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, May 30, 2009 - 5:48 pm
Jon needs to get a good lawyer - or two! One who handles entertainment law to get him OUT of this year's contract if he doesn't want to be a part of the series and another to ensure that he has equal custody with equal rights/time/access to the kids. In this state - where they DON'T live - primary physical custody would likely bring the house with it. I have no clue what split equal custody would do there - certainly an interesting question! And one which we will doubtlessly see played out this year -
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 10:15 am
I have finally watched my tape, and my only comment is that Kate acted like if they didn't do this party the kids wouldn't have had one. Now we all know that isn't true since the kids had their real birthday party the weekend before. The show was a little weird and my tape cut off a little before the end, did Kate and Jon interview together.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 3:22 pm
Dipo, yes they did for a bit.. the show was 1 hour 13 minutes long. ==I'm watching that E news thing Jon Kate: Twisted Fate. and of course not anything new.. just the brother of the 23 year old teacher getting HIS camera time, and the neighbor they got to dis Kate was a teenage boy who wanted ehr to wave at him.. disgruntled shop workers, though they had a positive one on camera. And they make fun of Kate thinking she's a star (per them) and not just a reality star.. which made me giggle a bit considering that the talking head on this show was Giuliana Rancic, wife of.. a reality show star, Bill Rancic and undoubtedly influenced by his boss, Donald Trump in how to make someone look as bad as possible. Rumor, innuendo.. and the same old Jodi interview calling Kate a cheater. TNT, one has to wonder if Jon really would want so much custody.. she takes the kids one place, he's seen partying in New York.. and he does seem to enjoy the perks as well. I'd hope they could settle without lawyers involved.. lots of money at stake and nope I don't think the lawyers would be thinking as much of the kids as how much THEY could make out of an extended brouhaha.. remember some of them like the publicity very much themselves, and the perks.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 4:36 pm
How do we know if this angst isn't just a manufactured story line for ratings? More people tune in to see juicy gossip than smiling faces.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 4:59 pm
Vsmart, nothing would surprise me. This certainly could al be for ratings. If so Jon should win an Emmy. He plays miserable and out of love husband to a tee. And Kate plays the shrew, also Emmy worthy.
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Mush
Member
09-09-2002
| Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 5:27 pm
Vsmart, I wouldn't be surprised. I think that it's interesting that TLC chose to include Kate's "poor me" interview segments while showing her doing things that get the Kate-haters going. It really seems like the editing was geared away from the kids and more to get the viewers involved in discussing Jon and Kate. I wonder if the rest of the season will be like this.
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