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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Thank you Onlyhuman.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Both Jon and Kate have become accustomed to the fine wrappings of celebrity!

Free stuff for the home! Free trips to the spa! Free trips to NYC to see the Statue of Liberty! Ooops. Guess that one will have to wait.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Me too, thanks, Onlyhuman!!!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
When Jon and Kate were still together, it was only Kate that got to live the life of the celebrity while Jon stayed at home with the kids. And this isn't tabloid talk. These were discussions on the couch on their actual tv show. Kate was always off to somewhere doing the celebrity thing.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I don't think there is a real point in comparing Kate to Jon. Just cuz Jon is doing (let's just use a number value here) an 8 on a scale of 1-10 (of poor choices) doesn't mean that when Kate does a 7, that that excuses her poor choices. (Hope that makes some kind of sense.)

The lifestyle is that of living in such an expensive house. Give me a break. The family was a bit cramped in their second house, but it was still very doable. The twins had their own room and the little ones had very large bedrooms for each set of three. There was a basement and a large yard in a very nice neighborhood.

They could go back there (I heard that house has not sold yet) and live just fine (well except for the paps that might be all over.)

But her crying about how she is so flipping worried about feeding her kids. Give me a break. She made a mil on one book. I believe she has three books out there. Plus appearances. Plus whatever $$ she has already made.

Can you imagine the $$ she could make when she writes a book on this trainwreck of the last 9 months?

Like Chy said above, a lot of the charm came from them being much like you or me. That charm is long gone. And Kate telling the nation how her kids wailed and sobbed when she told them the show was being put on hold just makes me think she is not putting the kids' needs first afterall.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I have not watched many shows but I do know when Im channel surfing around.... Its ON all the time....over and over again...old shows, occasional new shows.....what Im wondering is....Dont they get paid everytime a episode airs.... so as long as the show is on even if its re-runs....wouldnt they be pulling in some money????

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
Kate was off doing the working thing. Something Jon doesn't know and doesn't want to know anything about!

Thank you Onlyhuman!!

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
What things, specifically, have you seen her accuse Jon of doing? Because a month ago, people were complaining that she refused to answer questions that they wanted answers to. As far as I can see, she has not really commented on his numerous affairs, other than to say that she doesn't know who he is anymore. At the same time, she has even been open about her own mistakes, such as admitting that she went to the house out of concern for the kids and should not have done that.

As for refusing to ride for 5 hours in a car with a complete stranger to attend, without an appearance fee, a charity event, seriously? That's the complaint against her? The fact that she arranged her own transportation and made the requested appearance means that she thinks of herself as a celebrity? The fact that they requested her appearance at the event means that the organizers thought of her as a celebrity, enough so that when she requested transportation, they agreed to provide it. If they had informed Kate of what that transportation would be, she wouldn't have had to send anyone away so as to avoid offering a stranger the opportunity to run gossiping to the tabloids about her.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Does anyone have a link to the "my kids will starve" bit on the Today show?? I can only find a segment where she talked about filming and the Statue of Liberty thing...which BTW, was nothing like what I was expecting... I thought from the posts here that she had a whineyassed tantrum about not getting to go to NYC with the kids, when in reality it was nothing of the sort. I guess people see what they want to see..

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Jon, on the other hand, spoke to reporters when Kate called the police to get into the house that Jon had locked her out of

Or, as some see it, tried to interfere with court-ordered visitation, during which she threw a fit and involved the police. She has already said she behaved inappropriately in this situation.

Jon made a huge, public production about proclaiming his "epiphany" about how his children were being exploited

It's an epiphany many of us have been waiting for ONE of these parents--but preferably BOTH--to have for a while now. But now only one parent is responsible for the exploitation, and during a particularly difficult time for them.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
EXACTLY Tishala!!

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
I understand what you mean Julieboo, but it's actually done on both ends. At one point a lot of this thread was discussing Jon and his latest antics (especially when Kate wasn't saying much at all) but it started to switch over to talking about Kate because others were saying "...but Kate..." or "...because Kate..." or "...I don't begrudge Jon because Kate..." or "...but Kate has people fooled..." or "...why can't Kate just respond by saying..." etc. etc...

And now it's "...but why is Kate responding, she shouldn't say anything at all..." or "but Kate needs to get out of the media..." etc. etc.

Done on both ends, but that's how discussions go sometimes.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I agree that the "but Jon" and the "but kate" should not factor in-- no matter whose side you may be on in any particular instance.

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Please do not tell others how to post or what they should talk about. That's against TVCH posting rules.

Honestly, this thread is often worse than anything going on between Jon and Kate.


Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
I hear you. I think it's brought in as an attempt to explain why a person may be acting or reacting a certain way. I don't think it's done as a diversion tactic or to trivialize the other's doing, but moreso to explain that it may have happened because of this emotion or that emotion as a result precipitated by the other. It's hard to be black and white about an issue when it involves feelings, emotions, and children.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Honestly, this thread is often worse than anything going on between Jon and Kate.

Hahahaha! I was actually thinking it's gotten more touchy in here than the News and Views area! Am I allowed to say that?

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
mods!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Jon asked to stop the show a lot earlier than this week. We witnessed it ourselves. Kate would have none of it. Sometimes a mom/ parent needs to forego $$$$ and do what is best for the well being of the kids. They will be sick when they read what has been said between their parents. They'll be disgusted when they realize almost everyone they meet in their lives will be privy to the most private family hurdles. If Jon was more mature he would have shut this down a long time ago. This latest money squabble is just the beginning of what looks like what is going to be a divorce for the record books. They'll both come out flat broke and lose "the kids" house by the time this is over and the lawyers are paid.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
For whomever asked earlier to see the Today show interview, here it is:

Kate Cries "I Can't Pay My Bills"

I think this video speaks for itself.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Jon went to France on someone else's dime so to say he's wasting money on that is ridiculous.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Can I ask if anyone here has actually seen a report of Kate getting a million for her book? I have only heard Jon imply she MUST have made a million but he doesn't know cause he thinks she is hiding it. Seems a very large amount for a reality star and I would be surprised if that was anywhere near the truth. For example, Paris Hilton rec'd 100 grand as the advance for her book.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, I agree with you that Jon wanted to stop the show. However, Jon doesn't want to stop EVERY show, he just wants to stop the ones that aren't going to be featuring him in his new life style. The show that he wants to continue is the one that will allow him to "be himself" which is the single, divorce dad who sleeps with multiple women. That was his objection to continuing the show back in February...he said he couldn't be himself. There was no contention that it was bad for the kids at that time.

How, exactly, is it any better for the children for Jon to be doing his single dad reality show than for the children to be filmed getting to go on adventures? That kind of show is way more offensive, with Jon leading his less than PG lifestyle publicly, than filming the kids playing with each other and beating on each other with a plastic hatchet, which is what aired last night. Jon being on that type of show is going to affect his children AND they won't get the benefit of getting to go on trips and other experiences. Gee, what a great deal for them!

I don't think shutting down the show is a bad idea necessarily. I DO think that arbitrarily shutting down the show, with no apparent alternative means of support and no plan in place to replace the income is a HUGE mistake. It's impulsive and reactionary and demonstrates a lack of foresight and planning. Jon appears to be arguing that Kate can make enough money elsewhere to support the family, he's certainly not claiming that he will be the one providing for them in another way.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Kate also attended a party for Sherri Shephard @ the Empire State Building Monday night. She's crying on the Today Show that she doesn't sleep @ night worrying about how to feed her children and that night she's @ a party with her, you know...'co-host' of The View.

Snip:
During her New York visit, Kate is also expected to attend a party Monday night at the Empire Hotel's rooftop to celebrate her recent View co-host Sherri Shepherd's new Lifetime sitcom, Sherri. The celebration will be co-hosted by Barbara Walters.

The Today visit was already planned the week before to protest Jon stopping the filming of the show. I don't know when all the shows will stop letting both of these people go on their shows to fight in front of the nation. I used to think the Today show was somewhat serious.

How much money is also being wasted by these two for publicists? It makes me sick to hear a woman say she can't feed her children when she is spending all this money on nonsensical things.

The website is People online and it won't shorten correctly for me. Here's the original:

People Article

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Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Tuesday, October 06, 2009 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
"Someone Finally Yells at John Gosselin"

I don't always like Nancy Grace, but I thought this was kind of hilarious. She asks a lot of the same questions some of us here have been asking!

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b147631_someone_finally_yells_jon_gosselin.html