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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, May 25, 2009 - 6:38 pm
I've been going to same-sex country western dance clubs since 1995. I've gone to balls with same sex couples. The ONLY difference is it is not immediately obvious who leads and who follows, when they are not dancing. Or when someone walks up and asks you to dance (I'd have to ask if they could lead cuz I can't!). No one here said there was anything wrong with the couple dancing. What was said, and this was what the judges said, is that it was difficult to enjoy watching when you couldn't readily identify who was dancing which part when they switched off. And for what it's worth, I'm liberal, I'm not gay, and I support equal rights.
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 11:10 am
Well I really enjoyed the first audition show, yay! I loved all the same people you guys loved. And I also noticed all those "okay" ballroom dancers who thought they were hot stuff. Maybe they are the best at their dance schools in their towns? I used to be a pretty good dancer and people kept telling me to audition for things and I did it once and realized that I was very much NOT the best in the crowd - they told us to freestyle and I was like, basically wandering around the floor. I need choreography. But enough about me. I thought the whole same sex ballroom dancers segment was pretty cute and edited well. I enjoyed the humor of it all but totally appreciated that it was also real and meant to be taken seriously. I forgive Nigel because I think he wanted to make a cute joke and didn't realize he was sort of out of line. I think sometimes when you spend enough time with a certain group of people and you feel accepted by them you think you can joke around like them but you still really can't always get away with it. He's probably embarrassed now. Anyway I felt bad for them when they fell. Can't wait for next week!
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 12:33 pm
That was really well stated, Madelane. I agree with what you said about it being edited well and not meant to be taken seriously. That's what the debate here was about. I also think it's a good point to be made that when you spend enough time with a certain group, you think joking around and about with them is ok, but it sometimes comes off in a bad way. Unintentionally offensive to some.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 1:48 pm
I think the gay half of the same sex couples made it through...the straight guy did not.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:10 pm
I thought they both were eliminated, but I may not remember correctly.
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Cwcoop
Member
04-19-2008
| Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 4:49 pm
Smokey is correct - neither of them got to the next round.
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Ladyw
Member
06-28-2007
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 9:32 am
okay -- was finally able to watch -- YEAH -- Brandon is back and wow he has really grown as a dancer this year, he just left it all on the dance floor.... Tiffany great inspiration, even my daughter was impressed. same-sex couple -- didn't get it, definitly saw some potenitial in 1 guy, but when they showed a little bit of the second round, - no way - Can't wait for the LA round -- I know several who auditioned, but were not selected for Vegas even though the judges were just blown away, mostly they were told because they had no "back story" (ie their parents were not born on Mars).
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 12:14 pm
Lady that's nuts! one of my students made it to Vegas and she has a tear jerker story but once she got to Vegas, she got cut. BUT she was blown away by how much they proded her to share her private story and kept making her cry about it!!!
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Ladyw
Member
06-28-2007
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 5:56 pm
For one guy (my daughters teacher), he gave them his website, list of his awards, links to performaces and the company he is in, and had to get the owner to sign waiver to film at the studio. He got interviewd by the producers and several local newspapers. Shakman and nigel said that it was the best audition they had seen in any of the seasons, but its a reality show first, and he had no real "tear jerking" stories so.. thank you and goodbye...
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Jgalt
Member
02-17-2009
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 5:57 pm
Danzdol, I think that was Ladyw's point, ( of course I could be wrong), but Lady said the people she knew didn't get to Vegas because they didn't have enough of a sob story, where the people you know at least made it to Vegas. It's awful they made your friends cry. I guess this trend has something to do with ratings or something, but it sure is a bad trend, you would hate to have any competition end up being "Who has the greatest sob story". I hope nothing I said offended anyone in any way and I'm sure everyone connected to this show is making sure this is a great competition, without any other things factored in.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 7:07 pm
I just want to say that I called it on American Idol this year. I predicted that the sob story would become ubiquitous. Whether the contestant pushes the sob story or the producers do, it's still gonna be rammed down our throats. And honestly, if I was a contestant, I'd deny any sob story. I wouldn't want to make it onto a show that didn't want me for my talent (or whatever it is).
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Msbullwnkl
Member
08-16-2005
| Wednesday, May 27, 2009 - 10:10 pm
Did anyone else watch this tonight?
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 6:16 am
Yes, I did. I liked Geo, the brothers, the one sister who made it last night whose sister made it last week, and the salsa dancers. IRT the Salsa dancers, I think he will be in trouble once he has to dance by himself or without her. The widow wasn't all that, imo, compared to some of the other females that made it. I don't see her making it past Vegas.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 6:53 am
I loved the brothers and the sister of the one who had made it previously. I'm not a big fan of Tyce. He seemed a little harsh with them, IMO. I love the other judge and I forget his name now. He's a hip hop expert, I think. I loved him last year, too. He's very soft spoken. Anyone remember his name?
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 7:14 am
Lil C (I cheated and checked buddytv by the way). I think last year he was one of the kindest judges and rated the performers and gave constructive criticism, which kind of surprised me. He is one of my favorites.
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Smokey
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 7:31 am
Thanks, Roxip. He's my favorite, too.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 8:59 am
I really like Lil C as well, but I kept thinking he was laying his head on whatever her name is's arms all night long. It was weird.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 10:06 am
I think it is like this on most reality shows.. they want a back story. I'm sure there are people who desperately need a house remodel/rebuild who just don't make it on Extreme Home Makeover for reasons like this.. maybe no tragedy, no cute kids.. And the hallmark of such shows is that a gazillion people try out and a very few make it through and THEN start competing. Sucks for most of the gazillion. I still enjoy seeing the ones who make it and grow and entertain me.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 10:09 am
Tyce really ruined this episode for me. There was no need to be so over the top when he disliked a dancer. There IS a thing called being respectful, even though you all know there is no way the person would make it thru that round. I liked the girl who's sister made it thru last week and the twins who made it through together. The salsa dancers were great, but I think she outshines him by 100%. Not so sure about the brothers (jazz and tap) but they both had personality to spare.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 10:51 am
I am loving so many of them this year!! Tyce cracks me up. If you suck and audition you deserve his words. I love LilC, he has a great spirit about him. I thought the older bro was too old to audition, thought there was an age limit, said he was 29.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 11:33 am
I didn't mind Tyce so much. It's the real world and people that can't dance need to know that. Although I suspect alot of it was editing. After sitting through 2 days of auditions, Tyce's comments were probably condensed into less than 15 minutes. The producers probably wanted to make him appear harder on the dancers.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 12:26 pm
My problem was that he went on and on and on. OK, so yes, you are a bad dancer. What were you thinking when you auditioned? But to go ON AND ON? That was totally unnecessary. And if it was editing (which I doubt somewhat) then shame on the producers for that. I don't mind brutally honest, but I thought Tyce crossed the line into meanness.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 1:04 pm
I liked those who made it last night very much. The brother who did jazz is absolutely awesome and I hope he goes far. Loved the blond sisters as well and felt the second one (21 yrs.) was very good. I felt Tyce's reviews were almost part of an act and laughed when Nigel told him not to be so hard on the dancers and he meekly said, "Okay." I think like Mary's loudness; it's part of his personality.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 1:50 pm
Probably true. I like Lil'C.. did when he was on before, too. He's just a person I'd like to sit with and hear what he thinks about stuff. Seems to have a kind heart and soul. The choreographers make me smile when they see someone auditioning who really touches them.. you can see it in there face.. OH, I want to get my hands on them and choreograph! Mia does it, Lil'C and others.
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Goddessatlaw
Member
07-19-2002
| Thursday, May 28, 2009 - 2:43 pm
Both times when I flipped past this show the other night some twinkle-toes was humiliating himself doing cavaliers and jete's all over the stage. Badly. I couldn't watch.
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