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Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Read somewhere Jon has hooked up with some girl from SC.. I think they met on a trip? She graduated from a college there,In Charleston I believe?? Just googling..lol

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Don't spend it on anything? A nismo 350z is in the area of 40,000. I'm really suprised he got the touring model instead of the convertable. The Nismo part means it has a bigger engine than the regular 350z. From experience, I can honestly tell you I can't afford the gas for the regular 350z....much less the Nismo.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
If that was a doobie that size, it wouldn't be that white by the time it got that small.

I've seen plenty of people hold their ciggies like that.

And, I ask the same question OG asks...how do we know whether they sought counselling or not?

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Ophiliasgrandma (ETA to add and Bee lol), do I personally know they didn't try counseling? nope But I would bet anything if they had that would be mentioned repeatedly both on TV and in the press to show how much they tried to work things out.

And Lori, part of the problem is if either Jon or Kate socialize with anyone it is deemed an affair. I read on of the stories yesterday about that girl in NY he allegedly had the main affair with. Well did you know the girl's MOM went out with them? All the stories I saw left that out. Makes it more believable when he says "family friend" now, or least it did to me. So unless I see a lip lock or one of them calling someone else a relationship, I'm just not buying it anymore. The media feeding frenzy has removed knowing what to trust I fear.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
oops sorry didn't see it had already been posted.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Even if it is a regular ciggie....I'm SURE Kate wouldn't condone him doing that at the house...inside or out. That would certainly be a source of disagreement between them.

And Lori...you KNOW that was just a friend in SC. He makes female friends very easily ya know.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Just posting what I have found while reading the internet articles,didn't say it was true. I have no clue what is true,and doubt anyone does but Jon and Kate. 3 sides,his hers and the truth..

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Yup Sabb,I think he made a point to tell us that several times.. He's such a hottie what with his hairplugs and the obvious beer belly he has acquired with his bar hopping with "friends"

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
As for his smoking I recently saw a media clip where they asked Jon about that. He said he has always smoked, they just never aired it on the show. I think he may have said he smokes outside, but not positive about that. But I am certain from what he said the smoking is nothing new.

BTW in college and shortly after I knew many guys that held it that way. Several were European, but not all. I stil ran away from the stink regardless of how it was held hehe

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Lurk, there are pics of him leaving that woman's house in the AM. That would be enough for me if I were married to him. Shoot, the fact that he was out drinking at wee hrs of the AM and leaving with a girl would be enough for me. Husbands just don't do that if they want to remain married.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Cricket missed your post. I too was curious about what Jon did to cause Kate to rush and file, not to mention issue such a statement. My only guess was how he said he had no clue where Kate was. It made me wonder if she felt he would be trying for full or maybe even equal custody, since it's been said she will spend more time with them. And face it, cynical as it is, the more time with the kids, the more air time. And Kate sure seems into that.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
yeah but do we really have any clue when they split among themselves? And for that matter, maybe they started out as friends and he felt if Kate and the media were gonna accuse him of acting one way he might as well live that way.

I dunno..not looking to make excuses. But we really don't know what either of them are doing, who did what first, who might be lashing back etc. Sadly when relationships split up, stuff like this happens, Just in this case America is watching and judging.

Irsnappy
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01-13-2009

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Irsnappy a private message Print Post    
Does anyone know when the Hawaii wedding episode was filmed? Was it before or after the troubles started?

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
I have a feeling their troubles started after their first set of vows 10 years ago!

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Kate was clearly unhappy and said several times last night that this is not what SHE wanted and Jon can't wait to get on with his "exciting" life. I'd be willing to bet that in no time at all his time with his kids will be reduced to whenever he feels like it, which won't be much. He's busy chasing young chicks.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Irsnappy, that Hawaiian vow renewal--where they promised to be together forever in front of the kids--really bugged me. This is the time line best I can tell. They said it was about 2 months after their 9th anniversary. (I've been debating watching to confirm this time). They just had their 10th. So as lame as my math is, I think I can still figure out that was about 10 months ago, assuming they gave the dates when filming not when airing. And both seem to refer to the problems mentioning a 6 month window. So not that long after. So sad.

I still have a hard time believing that ep was all a lie. I just can't believe they would mislead their kids so if they knew things were already falling apart.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Twinkie, I'm convinced Kate is out to play the victim/get pity role. All the woe is me, I'll carry on alone, I'm sooooo tired, etc. But there's one reason I really question if the fault is either Jon's or all Jon's.

Isn't Kate the kind that would say something? She just said she was staying. She never said she wanted to stay with Jon. She never said she wanted to work things out with him. I just can't see her mouth not at least implying affairs if 1) he had them or 2) he had them and it wasn't part of an agreement they privately had. I just don't see her with that sharp tongue being able to not throw it at him some way IF it was just him.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I have never in all 100+ episodes ever got the feeling of a romantic relationship between them. No flirting no backside tap no sneaking of kisses no pronouncements of babe we gotta get away together I miss spending alone time, except maybe the trip to Florida and even then Kate, in front of others badmouthed him about the cake or his knowledge of Florida.

So I agree that Kate's so called sadness yesterday was an act. It's obvious, at least to me that Kate has NO interest in saving the marriage and it's her absolute right. But the feigning of being sad that the marriage IS OVER IS HORSEHOCKEY.

Pa is a no fault divorce state so the initial proceedings will be swift. I was thinking that Jon better have a good lawyer because IF he decided to get an apartment in NY that will mean he's NOT living in the same state as his kids and that could be a stumbling block when it comes to custody and the house.

But yes, Lurk, she's playing the victim and not very convincingly. She's easy to see through.

On a side not-I have never mentioned Kates hair because I myself have been known to sport some "interesting do's" but on yesterdays show doing the couch interview was the first time I thought- wow- has she no good friends to tell her she may want to rethink her hairstyle?

Another side note. Of all my girl friends that have divorced within a year they do a little bit of a makeover usually to their hair and lose a bit of weight so I won't be surprised if Kate follows that pattern.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Hopefully, Lilfair, that hairdo will be the first to go. It's awful.

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
So, Jon is excited about moving on with the "new chapter in his life" but Kate, who clearly is not looking forward to change, is playing the victim and is not sad at all that the marriage is over.

I guess we don't have to go by their actual words, we can just make assumptions based on our perceptions of their characters.

Some people think Kate is a money grabbing famewhore and Jon is a poor victim of his wife's evil nature. Jon could have sex with an 18 year old on his front lawn and people would claim that Kate forced him to do it. Probably had him sign a contract first.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
Sorry....but going through a divorce...even if it's one you want, is very stressful and emotional. I don't think for one second that she was faking it, because a lot of the things she was saying were things I've been feeling for the last three months myself....and I don't have any children! In my case, I just want some peace. I want my life settled again, so that I can start to build a new future. Even if she hated Jon and was being a total shrew about everything, being limbo in life is a bad bad place.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
When I watched the renewal of vows in Hawaii, I didn't see any real closeness between Jon and Kate. Jon was constantly looking away from Kate, and I didn't see any of the warmth one expects to see on such an occasion. Kate was busy directing the children, as usual, and Jon was just sort of there. I really thought it very strange at the time, and wondered if their marriage was in trouble, but I thought if they were going through all of this, I must be wrong. It all looked very staged, sterile, and cold considering the symbolic nature of the ceremony.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
<79> This is a horrible event in their lives and their children's lives IMO. I wish they would stop and regroup and try to figure out a way to make it work out for them...they have 8 children who deserve if at all possible to have both parents...let's just hope if they do indeed get divorced (as it seems inevitable at this point) that they are able to be better co-parents from a distance than they are together. Those children deserve that from them.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I don't believe she's faking either. Any time you go through a divorce and you are not the one having fun and making new "friends" you are emotionally devastated. Kate is hurting and Jon is excited <79>. He's a snake and he doesn't even hide it very well.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, June 23, 2009 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I'll tell you, if Kate was putting on an act with her horribly swollen eyelids then she deserves an Emmy for it.}