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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think it's at top 10 when they randomly switch partners. Each week either guys or girls pull names for the partner, and then the partner pulls the dance (from a hat).

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Thanks everyone, for the answers re the partner switch. Costa, I vaguely remember that from the season before last. For some reason I didn't watch last season and I wish I had, because I really like Chelsea on Dancing With the Stars. That will be exciting to see how different partners dance together.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
No problem Cricket.

So... anyone? Who were in the bottom 3 couples and who left tonight?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Bottom 3 were:

Asuka and Vitolio
Caitlin and Jason
Karla and Jonathan

Jonathan and Asuka went home.

The votes for the girls were unanimous and the votes for the boys were not.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
wow Vitolio stayed over Jonathan!? I am shocked

Phillip must have a huge following, I thought Kaitlan and Jason were better than them last nite

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
BTW there is a special SYTYCD show next Monday on Fox. Something to do with Michael Jackson.

Kaylasmom
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07-27-2005

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kaylasmom a private message Print Post    
On Monday, they are replaying the American Idol Michael Jackson show they did this past season...just happened to announce it on SYTYCD tonight...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
That'll be a great tribute show... there were some good performances that night (although I missed about half the singers cuz I was up here in the bay area again!).

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
I missed the first ten minutes of the show tonight. Can anyone help me find a video of the opening dance number? I hear it was pretty good.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, June 25, 2009 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm, wonder what time on Monday? That should be good!

I wasn't surprised, but very sad, that Asuka went, but WAS surprised that Vitolio stayed..

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 5:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I was very happy that Vitolio stayed.
Not too surprised at the girls, although I'm souring on Kaitlin. I didn't agree with the judges gushing over her Paso nor her Bollywood number. I've seen much better.

Luvstarzz35
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08-21-2008

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Luvstarzz35 a private message Print Post    
Just got done watching. Overall, it was a great show. My only problem with it is that I never get to vote. lol By the time I am done working the lines are closed.

I bet Karla wasn't happy about her critique. She had to think it would have been better given her hip-hop experience with the Boogie Bots.

I was also happy Vitolio stayed. He dances with such heart. I still love Kaitlin, too.

With Jason's backstory showing him always dancing to Michael Jackson when he was younger, I wouldn't have minded his solo being a tribute to Michael Jackson.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
They must have run over time last night (do they think they're American Idol???), cause my recording cut off when Cat was talking about something being rerun on Monday. Thanks for filling in the gaps here!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I knew when I saw the bottom 3 couples who the eliminated ones would be. They have always thought that Jonathan's dancing skills were weak although I think they liked his looks and his gymnastic experience, and although Asuka was really beautiful she didn't seem to be growing much as a dancer. For some reason they really like Vitolio (whether it is his back story or his cute accent or what) and I think they thought he would look good paired with Karla. And I thought Kaitlin's solo was really very good. I thought Karla's was weak - she looked like she was about to fall over on all of her balance moves...is that what Nigel meant by "never finding her center?"

And they ran over because the judges rambled on and on during their commentary about why the contestant was eliminated...Nigel finally had to interrupt (I think it was Mary but it could have easily been Toni) and say "let's get on with it."

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Msbullwnkl - in the "Watch With Kristin" section of eonline the opening dance is easily found. I just watched it. And you are right, it was really good.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Nigel's rambling about Michael's & Farrah's deaths was unnecessary & too long. Guess it was really an ad for AI's Monday rerun.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Hmmm...I thought it was short and sweet and respectful of the icons they are.

Ladyw
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06-28-2007

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladyw a private message Print Post    
"Jessie" -- meant Jonathon (sorry was at work and have to get in and get out before big brother sees me.
Missed the show last night. I agree with the bottom 3 and who got eliminated. As I didn't see the solos, but - yes, on balance moves if she was about to fall over (then yes Nigel saying finding her center is corret). As my daughter says ballet, ballet ballet. when she dropped her ballet classes this past year (because of school cheer and all-star dance comp's), after 4 months she could tell her balance, center and core was compeltely off kilter -- hence we are back in ballet...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Vsmart, on Twitter all day long, they discussed what they could do/say about Michael, I think they were all hit by his death, but when they had Nigel speak, probably they felt they had to include Ed and Farrah in there, but that did make it ramble on ..

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, June 26, 2009 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I thought Kat looked so much like Farrah, esp in that 70s jumpsuit. I did a double take when she jumped up behind the dancers.

I enjoyed Nigel's tribute to all of them. I had no idea he was there making pies with Farrah, so sweet. In her documentary it shows her making pies, one of her fav things to do. She just reminded me so much of mom, that loving spirit, trying not to show how much pain she was in, trying to still do the things she loved.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Nigel is tweeting right now that they want to do a special tribute to MJ this week in all genres, but they are having a problem clearing the music. I really hope they straighten it out, I think it would be fabulous.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Ladytex, I saw yesterday on Twitter, Adam Shankman, Nigel and Paula Abdul discussing an MJ tribute. They were asking Paula to choreograph something. I guess she worked with the Jacksons in her past.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I would certainly enjoy that.. hope they get the clearances.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I think one of first big gigs was choregraphing Janet, I believe she did that before her singing career.

I thought when music is over 20yrs old it is public domain. That is why we are hearing 80s songs used in commercials lately.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Sunday, June 28, 2009 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I wondered when I read what you said, Pamy, so looked it up. That seemed really unfair to me to think someone like Todd Rundgren or whomever, (just thinking of his music in a recent commercial) would have no copyright protection after 20 years. I'm not a musician, but a visual artist, and my work is protected by copyright, even if I do not register it with the copyright office. It's intellectual property.

Here's what I found:



Copyright and the Public Domain

Authors own the exclusive rights to their compositions. This is called a copyright, and the composition is protected for many years--even if the copyright is never registered with the copyright office. A composition is considered to be "intellectual property" The copyright may be sold, transferred, or inherited--but the copyright still endures. If any music or lyrics are still under copyright protection

* you CANNOT reproduce the music or lyrics
* you CANNOT distribute the music or lyrics either for free, for no profit, or for profit
* you CANNOT perform the music or lyrics in public
* you CANNOT play a recording of the music or lyrics in public--even if you own the CD
* you CANNOT make a derivative work or arrangement for public use in any form

Legally a copyright means that a musician, author, or artist has a "limited duration monopoly" on anything he creates. The US Constitution grants the government power "to promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries." (Article 1 Section 8, US Constitution). To legally enforce an author's claim to his copyright, his work must be registered with the copyright office. Registering a composition provides public notification of copyright, and you cannot use the composition publicly unless you pay royalties--which can be substantial. If you use a song under copyright without the owner's permission, you are subject to legal repercussions.United States Copyright Law
US copyright law is found in Title 17 of the United States Code and is administered by the US Copyright Office. " Terms for Copyright Protection", a U.S. Government publication, summarizes the current duration of copyright protection for published works as follows:

* Works created after 1/1/1978 - life of the longest surviving author plus 70 years - earliest possible PD date is 1/1/2048
* Works registered before 1/1/1978 - 95 years from the date copyright was secured.
* Works registered before 1/1/1923 - Copyright protection for 75 years has expired and these works are in the public domain.

The Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act was signed into law on October 27, 1998. Prior to the Sonny Bono 20 year copyright term extension, copyright protection for works registered before 1/1/1978 was 75 years; therefore, compositions registered in 1922 or earlier entered the public domain on 1/1/1998. The 1998 copyright extension did not extend copyright protection from 75 to 95 years for songs already in the public domain so . . .

* The Good News - works published in the United States in 1922 or earlier are in the public domain even if they are not yet 95 years old.
* The Bad News - no new works will enter the public domain until January 1, 2019.

You can confirm the above information about public domain and copyright protection in "Extension of Copyright Terms", Circular 15t, of the U.S. Copyright Office. Specifically the last paragraph of Page 3 states in part "Works published before January 1, 1923, have fallen into the public domain." We suggest that you print this circular and keep it as part of your public domain research materials.


All that being said, I know there is some law that allows you to use a very small amount of the music in commercials or wherever, without infringing on the copyright. I forget how much it is, but it's not much. My guess is if we hear more than that amount specified, the musician is making royalty money for the use of their work.