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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Monday, August 17, 2009 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Seriously, with kids that young, would you expect that Kate would not call them when she's not there, or even that Jon would not call them when he's not there? Or that the kids would not call the parent who isn't there?

Seamonkey, no problem in her calling if it's not to control Jon, which is what it turned out to be.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, no problem in her calling if it's not to control Jon, which is what it turned out to be.

There are no facts out there to prove that one way or another.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, August 17, 2009 - 9:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I was really replying to a post saying there should be NO contact on her week away.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Monday, August 17, 2009 - 11:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
I think what Kate misses about Jon is the man that she could totally control and push around and he would always take it. Maybe he would sometimes make a face or say something smart back under his breath, but wow if I ever treated my DH like that he would have walked long ago. He seemed to go along with the fake happy family, but when he wanted to stop the show and she would not allow it, he reached his breaking point. That's just my take, I guess we all see things differently. I never did think that Kate didn't love her kids, but she never had the patience that Jon did with them.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
And that is why I think doing the show is a LARGE reason of why they broke up. Seemed like Jon was okay with Kate treating him as she did. Then he saw on tape some behaviors that I bet he could not get out of his head. And perhaps some of his friends & family plus any comments on the internet that he may have come across questioned why he would put up with it.

Now of course that is just my guess. No way to know for sure. But I sure wonder if they never did the show if they'd still be together today...

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 7:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Mamabatsy, i agree with your take on the quote.

I have always beleived that for the most part, Jon was fine with their relationship and the dynamics. I think he started seeing/getting comments about how she treated him and reacted. I think that's one reason why he seems so lost and without much direction.

I loved Kate with the boys last night. Was it Aiden that said 'i like you'? I never could get my mom's relationship with my brother until my son was born. Mommies and their boys...just a special bond.

Scoutmom
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01-19-2006

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scoutmom a private message Print Post    
Last night was great - loved Joel when he said he was gonna be a "bad guy" when he grew up but told him mom "don't worry mommy, I won't shoot you" Cracked me up.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
5 is such a great age.

Sammi
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03-31-2008

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammi a private message Print Post    
Did anyone notice that when they were sitting having the ice cream last night at the little table that one of the boys had ice cream all over his shoes and pants??? She didn't even mention it. She has really loosened up about STAINS!!!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL, i saw that ice cream all over his shoes and thought the same thing. she did ask earlier if one of them was going to spill it all over themselves. they said no. LOL

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Who was with the other three little girls when Jon was taking the twins on a special outing? Did they get a special outing with Daddy too?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
That show was when Kate was in NC with all the kids. I would imagine the helper she took to NC with her was back at the rental house with the girls.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
This two separate time things is very confusing to me...I can't even keep up with one child, I can't imagine keeping up with 8!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
The big girls had gone back to finish school; they did the activies with Jon. Kate and the little ones were all still in NC. I assume the helper was with the little girls while Kate took the boys out.
It's confusing cause the end of last weeks show showed the big girls coming home early and then later kate and the rest of the kids coming home.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
There are no facts out there to prove that one way or another.

I'm going by the 'facts' in the article and the 'facts' out of Jon's mouth. Kate happened to call; found out Jon was having a certain babysitter come over so he could get stuff done; didn't like said sitter and decided to go to the house herself, whereupon Jon wouldn't let her in.

The police got called.

Those are all facts.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Quite often over the past few months, "facts" from Jon's mouth have turned out to be lies. If he wanted to spend time with his kids, and say that everything is about the kids...he did not have to bring in a babysitter who slept over in the apartment above the garage, and then be seen coming out of said apartment in the morning. Jon needs to grow the hell up.

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
So . . um . . . how's this been for the ratings? Gee, any chance that's the reason for this latest stunt on both their parts?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 1:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Last night ET said the ratings were very good for a non-network show.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Try as I might, I can't come up with a valid reason for Kate going over there uninvited by Jon unless the children were in immediate danger. I don't think many people would be happy to see an ex whom they are not on good terms with just show up whenever they feel like it.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Well they do have an unusal setup. Most seperated people have 2 different residences.

But I do agree, she shouldn't have gone... BUT if my ex had a "friend" over so soon with my kids I know I'd be flipping out... she maybe didn't think things thru and probably regrets her actions...

but I bet things are in the works legally for "friends" coming over on BOTH their watches, and babysitting be agreed upon by both, which really isn't out of line at all..

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I finally watched the Regis segment this morning and at least there Kate said she is with the kids more of the time and just leaves when Jon come there for filming. And it was filming that he said forced him to get the babysitter in that night as he was in the basement filming his interviews and couldn't have kids running around.

Also in the same interview she was still saying she hoped there would be shared holidays with Jon and the kids and other shared times.. personally I wonder if that will be possible.. think she is over-optimistic about that sort of togetherness. repeated.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But how do we know this babysitter is MORE than a babysitter? Do we know that Jon and she were kissing or making out or anything? That is a lot of conjecture of you ask me and also the Jonbashers have seemed to assume that they were totally making out in front of the kids...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Julie she was with Jon at Legends (yes the same bar where he used to go with the teacher) until 3am and then they drove to his place together (paps following) and she was seen coming out of the garage apartment early the next morning, wearing the same outfit.

Kissing? Who knows? But most babysitters (this one is a single mom with kids, Jon is said to have felt for her and hired her because he understands about having kida and no money) don't go out drinking shots and sleep over with the boss. Wonder if he hired yet another babysitter for HER kids?

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
That could mean she didn't want to have the paparazzi trailing her on her way home at 3 AM. I know I wouldn't. So she stayed over on the couch or in a spare room. It's as easy to conclude nefarious things about Jon and the babysitter, though, as it is to make the same conclusions about Kate and her "bodyguard."

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
It's not "just as easy" to make that conclusion because there is no evidence that Kate has gone out with the bodyguard drinking and spent the night in his apartment.

I mean, I can easily speculate that Kate is spending a each night with a different member of the production staff. I can easily speculate that Jon has been carrying on a wild affair with Kate's sister-in-law since his and Kate's honeymoon. I can speculate the the producers have forced Jon to date random women just for ratings.

However, all of that speculation has not one iota of anything concrete to back it up.

That is not the case with Jon and this nanny. They were seen together, in public, without the children, at a bar, partying. They drove to his place after and she spent the night. Those are facts, not speculation. Did they sleep together? No one knows. But the behavior that IS documented, is, to me, not the most appropriate for a man who is supposed to be taking care of his children and a far cry from what I would consider a normal nanny/employer relationship.

Find one documented time when the relationship between Kate and the bodyguard was ever anything other than professional.