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Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
In my personal opinion, most of the negative reporting on Jon has been about what he has done outside of framework of the TLC show. And actually not reported on by TLC.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Indeed.. the only crossovers I saw were the blurred out designer tshirts and the not blurred out Lies Lies Lies Lies shirt Jon sported for the lemonade stand gig.. and of course he brought up some stuff in his interviews, but that is on him.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
This will be my last post because it seems no one seems to get what I am saying. Everyone was complaining on how mean Jon was to the girls when he sent them in the house and didn't take them to the fire house. What I have been trying to get across is the fact that what we were shown on the show was what TLC wanted us to see and we DO NOT know what transpired before that and the fact is that this show is put on by TLC and they just may have edited it to make it look like Jon was just being mean, who knows what the Girls may have said or done before that was not shown. What is on the show has nothing to do with what the "NEWS" is reporting. So now I will go away.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Country, that is your choice, but I don't think anyone fails to GET what you are saying.. I know personally I just don't think there was a reason for his actions; he handled it very poorly.. not just what happened with the twins but then in using the firemen as babysitters while he preened for the paparazzi in his scolding (and dishonest, IMO) T-shirt.

But we all see what we see and we aren't here to come to a concensus, just to discuss the show, the people on the show and in real life.

Karuuna
Board Administrator

08-31-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
IMO, it doesn't *matter* what might or might not have happened before. NOTHING that the girls had done justified his response when it was so clearly his personal anger at the mom comparison; and NOTHING the girls did justify the response of "the poster is going in the trash."

So, it's not that I don't 'get' that there may be more, it's that I personally cannot imagine any kind of "more to the story" that justified his behavior.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I personally don't care what may or may not have been said that we didn't see. It wouldn't warrant his response that we DID see.

Nan
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09-25-2000

Friday, November 27, 2009 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nan a private message Print Post    
I just think that since it was his "time with the kids", he wasted the opportunity to spend that time with the two girls....seems to me he would cherish every bit of time he gets with the kids.....same with the kids not really being around helping with the lemonade stand. Time with the kids is time with the kids.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Country, don't stop posting. I understood your point. I just didn't agree with it. (unless you agree that TLC was editing Kate to make her look bad! LOL).

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Bottom line for me is that Jon does not like being compared to his soon to be ex wife and took it out on his kids.

I think if the kids really were acting up before the mommy comment we would had seen that.

Moderator
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06-29-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Moderator a private message Print Post    
Complaints and criticism of other posters will NOT be tolerated here. If it continues we will reinstate our instant suspension policy.

People are ALLOWED to criticize Jon & Kate, you are NOT allowed to criticize them for their opinions!


Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Countrydaze, please don't stop posting! I do understand what you're saying. And you've often brought up very relevant points.

I do have to wonder how much more we'll see of these two for a while. How long will it be before Kate is back on TV. How long will it be before Jon is on some really bad cable show. I'm hoping they both take a break and give us all a break too. LOL.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
What continues to amaze me - and draw me back to this thread periodically - is that the posters here never take a break! Lively discussions!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
it's like a sick addiction! LOL

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It is addicting. LOL. And with all of the excellent points everyone has made, I think none of us has yet to sway the "other" side. We are firmly entrenched in our opinions, which does make for lively discussion.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Jon had better hurry up and do another 'Jon Thing' so we'll have some more to talk about, what with the show now cancelled. I don't see Kate suddenly popping up to give us anything to work with.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
what a sad thing for these kids to grow up with a dad that has been labeled a douche by almost ever person on tv. He is the butt of weekly jokes on Soup and comedians all over.

Even tho the d label fits the behaviour he has exhibited over the last months it will still be sad for the kids to grow up with kids that will tease him about his Douche, er I mean their Dad.

(note that last line is just one of the liners I could see kids saying)

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I do have to wonder how much more we'll see of these two for a while. How long will it be before Kate is back on TV. How long will it be before Jon is on some really bad cable show. I'm hoping they both take a break and give us all a break too. LOL.

Brenda, I read TLC has something slated for Kate in March, 2010. I don't know if it's the show with Paula Dean or if it's another show with the children.

Countrydaze, I know where you're coming from; <99>.

When I see this divorce, I keep thinking about the old Ann Lander's saying: "Will you be better off without him in 5 years?" That's the advice she used to give women contemplating divorce.

We'll see.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
CD, I see your point. I just don't agree with it. In my world, it doesn't matter what happened before. He picked the wrong time to snap. We ended up seeing it. No amount of editing in the world can change that. He needs to learn to ignore those comments. As long as he responds to them, then they know how to get to him. I can assure you that line WILL be used again by the kids!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Kate has been perceived negatively by those who don't like her, based pretty much by what she said and did on the show. Her yelling at Jon in the toy store was seen as some sort of "proof" that it was how she was, 24/7. And in the shows following their split, her tears were called fake by those who don't care for her.
So if I happen to fall on the side of Kate, I can take the liberty to see Jon the same way. He was horrid to Mady and Cara because that's what I saw.

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
Are there some things the entire board can agree on?
Both were bad spouses?
Both love the kids?
It's a good thing the show is off the air?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 4:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Both were just average spouses.
Both love the kids.
I'm sorry the show is off the air.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Their marriage didn't work.
Both loved their kids.
I will miss seeing those sweet faces.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 5:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Are you guys haikuing over the Gosselins? Do we need an intervention?

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Do we need an intervention?

Yes. And we need to know where Jon spent Thanksgiving.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Saturday, November 28, 2009 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
LOL OK.