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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 2:00 pm
That's cool. Daniel is featured in People this week.. just haven't gotten to that article.. pg 97 of the Feb 9 issue (with Caylee Anthony on the cover and small pics of Jessica Simpson, Angelina with Vivienne and SAG dresses).
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 6:42 pm
The drama before commercials...the looks on faces, particularly Jillian and Bob -- STUPID. Really STUPID.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 7:43 pm
I haven't read the entire thread, so I hope I'm not repeating anything. Am I the only one who feels like Joelle had absolutely no support? She appeared completely depressed and without self-esteem, and I truly think she's better off without Carla. With friends like that, who needs a mother? I think she'd benefit greatly from COUNSELING first to figure out why she has such esteem issues; then maybe she could work on her emotional eating and be more motivated to lose the weight for HER. I wasn't at all sad to see her ditch Carla. Don't get me wrong - I don't dislike Carla. It must have been extremely frustrating to have a partner who didn't have the drive everyone else did, but it was obvious that brow-beating Joelle wasn't getting anywhere! Carla's idea of "support" wasn't mine.
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Laneesmom
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05-12-2005
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 8:16 pm
I also feel sorry for Joelle. Something seems to be wrong...and I don't like to see anybody sad and alone. (Not that I know she is/was.....just how it appeared). Carla will do just fine. And I hope Joelle does too.
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Gidget
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07-28-2002
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 9:37 pm
Last week I was sorry to see Daniel go but I am glad that he is doing better than I thought he would. I guess the extra 2 weeks really did a lot for him. I am also glad to see David is still trying. I hope the best for those two. Joelle has problems. You don't have to be a psychic or psychiatrist to see it. She tears at my heart. For some reason I feel her pain. I hate so much that she was so bullied on the show. I mean that yellow team chick lost 2 pounds at home. Made all kinds of excuses. Then had the nerve to rag on Joelle. My gut tells me Joelle is better off without Carla because Carla really is not able to support her. I hope the show keeps up with these people. It seems like they get ongoing trainers. I hope Joelle finds a circle of people to give her the hand up she clearly needs. As for Carla, I think she might have had a chance at staying had she not attacked Joelle. Instead she should have acknowledged Joelle as less motivated but played on the line that she Carla as the biggest woman ever really needs another week. She should have pointed out that the brown team has had 6 weeks on the ranch. Ample time to put them on track. And she, Carla should have gotten the same chance. I would have told the group look, give me one more week. If we fall below again you can dump us then but give me some time. All in all I really hate this twist. Sure it is a game. Sure it is about ratings. But with the epidemic of obesity it seems downright cruel to give such an incredible opportunity only to snatch it away. I hope they do not do this again.
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Seabreeze
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09-05-2004
| Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 9:59 pm
I felt the same way about the twist....but I think that they are trying to show that folks at home can and should lose weight and that the ranch is only a tool; not the "be all and end all way to lose weight".
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 2:14 am
Week 5: We hear about week 1, when half of each pair went home. We see flashbacks of the home partners. We six returning. Aubrey, Laura, Sione, Shanon, Cathy and Carla. Time for the at-home players to step up on the scale and show what they were able to accomplish at home. Bob meets with his team to rev up the at-home people. Tells them the numbers last night were no joke. Tells them the team members who stayed at the ranch deserve their respect. Jillian arrives to see that Orange team is gone. She's not surprised. Says historically, Bob won't "let" his teams vote off one of their own. She tells them if they intend to stay in the house they don't have the luxury of a lazy day; we don't have the votes. She tells us we are at a bigger disadvantage now. 5 teams vs 4. She asks Aubrey to guess what she's lost. Aubrey stars weeping. Weigh In for returnees/ Immunity Cathy is nauseous. Sione says others look good. Bob has no idea what numbers he'll see. Alli points out that six of them are back and everyone is dying to find out how they did. She says how well they did at home is crucial. The winner of today's weigh-in will win Immunity for their team. Lots of ooohs and ahhs. One person's chance to repay their partner for all the hard work to bring them back. Joelle thinks this will be a moment for the silver team. Shanon/pink is nervous, but says she worked hard. She has lost 15 lb and is disappointed, but others, plus Bob and Jillian praise her loss. 5.56% loss. Laura/green is up next. Really really scared, she says. Not sure how much she lost. She is down 7 ob (undoubtedly making Shanon feel better). She says she wanted to lose 40 lb at home. She says it is so much harder at home. Tara says awesome, you lost 7 frickin''' pounds. Jillian says Tara doesn't want Laura to start in whining already. Don't be a victim, get to work. It will be fine. 2.57% loss Now Cathy/purple will be up. She says going home made her realize how much she needs to be here. Doesn't want to let her child down. She is down 8 lb. Cathy is more positive, says she knows she worked hard and is happy with what she did. Kristin is smiling and clapping for her mom. She tells us she was happy for her and happy that she was happy. Loss of 2.85 % puts them in second, leaving Shanon in the lead for immunity. (Also looking good for Bob's team to have an immune pair, so far) Aubrey/yellow is next. She says she was excited to return but more and more worried about her numbers. She's lost 2 pounds. She looks sheepish, Mandi looks pissed. Jillian looks pained. Aubrey says she is stronger now, built muscle and endurance. Jillian again looks grim, but says that's ok. She needs to lose 100 lb. The reality is she lost two pounds. Bob says not to candy coat it. It isn't muscle. LOL. No excuses here. She lost 2 pounds; thank God she's back in the house. Jillian thanks Bob. Jillian tells us she cannot stand the bull crap around weight loss. Trainers do that all the time. "You've lost nothing but you've gained muscle. You've lost inches, even though the scale hasn't moved." With loss of 0.85% Aubrey is in last place. OK, Carla. Carla/silver to weigh in now. No excuses, says Alli. Carla is so excited to come back, about to kick some BUTT. Carla was the biggest woman ever, made risky decision to leave Joelle on the ranch, but here you are. To take the lead over Shanon, you have to have lost more than 20 pounds.. Carla says ok. She loses exactly 20 pounds and is amazed (ed. Rats.. I was hoping for a silver win here) She's happy, others are impressed. She says sure she wanted to lose 40, but 20 was a realistic goal. Bob says she's in it to win it, great loss for her. 5.43% keeps her in second place. Sione needs to have lost more than 19 pounds to win immunity. Bob says little crybaby Shanon in first place, not crying now. But Sione and Filipe really want this immunity.. it is "unbearable". Sione has lost 25 lb, moving them into first and gaining immunity for blue team. This also means that, for the returnees, Bob's teams have the top three losers and Jillian's the bottom two. Sione says he needed that immunity to give back to Filipe. They also were celebrating loudly. Bob says it makes him want to work harder too. Sione's % is 7.16. Blue team has immunity this week. Alli tells them the good news is they are back on campus and the bad news is they are back on campus. Good luck.
Trainer color | Name | Age | Height | Starting Weight | Previous Weight | Returning Weight | Loss | % | Total Loss | Week 4 | | B blu | Sione | 28 | 6'0" | 372 | 349 | 324 | -25 | -7.16% | -48 | Immune | | B pnk | Shanon | 29 | 5'5" | 283 | 270 | 255 | -15 | -5.56% | -28 | | B sil | Carla | 36 | 5'8" | 379 | 368 | 348 | -20 | -5.43% | -31 | | B prp | Cathy | 48 | 5'8" | 293 | 281 | 273 | -8 | -2.85% | -20 | | J grn | Laura | 24 | 5'9" | 285 | 272 | 265 | -7 | -2.57% | -20 | | J ylw | Aubrey | 28 | 5'5" | 249 | 236 | 234 | -2 | -0.85% | -15 | | | In the gym We see Bob and Jillian working with their teams. Lots of hard work. Bob says up to him to put a whole month's workout in. Shanon admits that it is much harder here, they literally ride us. Jillian tells Laura she can swear, scream whatever, but no crying. We see her crying the first week. Tara is afraid Laura won't give that 150% like I have been (she sounds as harsh on her own partner as she is toward others, at least) Filipe is impressed with how hard Sione is working out. He came back stronger and faster. Bob is thrilled. Bob crows about him losing 25 lb off campus and he's immune. Jillian says to Aubrey to get real, she was home with 5 kids. Aubrey swears she spent 4-5 hours a day in the gym, it was the food. Jillian says you have to learn that.. you need to have the ability to ask for help. Aubrey tells us she had trouble getting help. Bob telling Carla and Joelle to work, talks to us about the big fight they had at home. Says they don't have time for that. Carla is working really hard. She tells us Joelle isn't pushing as hard as she can stand. Carla hopes they swim, but they could sink. Bob says Carla's working so hard, Joelle continues to be inconsistent. Challenge Site is at a dam. Mandi is excited to work with Aubrey as a team for a challenge. Alli talks about the loneliness losing weight, you all have a partner. Someone you can rely on. Like it or not, you are tied to each other. Today's challenge will prove that. They will be tied to a rope that is wrapped around a long pipe, they have to unwrap to get to the finish line (this is a simple version of some survivor comps). They don't have to get all the rope, just enough, their judgement. Winner gets $5,000 or can trade that in for a 2 lb advantage at the next weigh in. (ed. Since the pipe is the same for all, I'd predict that black team, being two tall young guys, would have some advantage, but we will see) Carla says Joelle turned to me and said we can each get $2,500. Carla says I told her no, we need that 2 pound advantage for the weigh in. Mike/brown tells us 2 pounds is huge here. GO! They start going over and under the pipe. Yep, black team off to a fast start. Brown team struggling. Mike says they didn't want to injury themselves. Ron having trouble, feels bad. Blue team has a rhythm (and they are immune). Carla says we just had to hop and roll, be hurt later. Aubrey says it hurt stomach and ribs. Hmm black team slowing down. Tara says they are just under and over, rope getting caught. Alli says not a comp of speed, but working together as a team. Blue team slowing down. Alli is doing her usual sort of taunting them.. Green untying knots, seeing if they have enough. Yellow going for it. Now Pink is unraveling. green not halfway there. Blue and black now testing their rope. Blue thinks they have it. Yellow knotted. Yellow so close and they win (ed. Well I guess that will help make up for Aubrey's lack of loss). Yellow win They have to choose between the $5,000 and the 2 pound advantage before the weigh-in. Product placement with Jillian and black team.. for Cheerios. In the gym: Last Chance Workout Jillian says she is sick of saying it, but it is do or die for her teams. Huge disadvantage. She works with Dane and Blaine. Then with Aubrey, who says it is terrifying. Jill works with Laura. Laura says it isn't just about working out but knowing why it is hard to lose weight. Bob tells us to find support for workouts and loss success. We get the usual recap of the first hour... Coming up, teams weigh in together for the first time in 30 days and the shocking results turns the house against one contestant (we see Aubry crying, which may or may not be misdirection) Bob says the at home people have to pull their weight. We see Cathy working hard and Carla calling for Joelle who is not focusing, sort of wandering around. Filipe bashes Joelle, as usual, says he wouldn't be surprised if Joelle was below yellow line. Helen jumps on the pig pile and says Joelle is just.not.doing it. (and to be fair, we see her just.not.doing it. Bob says Carla will have to work 10 times harder to compensate for Joelle. He tells us Shanon might cry, but she is tough (lol and she throws a mean bag of flour back at home, too) He makes Shanon carry Sione. ACK. Shanon falls but gets up. Helen is cheering her on. (dramatic music, too). Helen is so proud of her. Shaonon is proud of herself. And now, channeling yet another reality show, Bob says "Welcome Home, Shanon, Welcome Home!" Weigh in Kristin tells us for the first time, she is concerned about a weigh in. Lost extreme amount of weight but always just above the yellow line. (ed. Kristin at that point had lost more weight than any woman this season) Carla says she is not usually nervous, but she's nervous now, feels she has carried Joelle this week. Aubrey tells us it is a tough decision, they could use the money but they know what 2 pounds can mean (can she seriously be considering not using that?) We think we've made the right decision. Jillian sighs. Says she is down two teams. If we don't win this weigh in we are dead. Alli: First week back on campus. Tonight for the first time since week one, you will be weighing in as a team. Bob says they are officially back. Alli says we find out who lost the most weight this week and more importantly we find out who gained the most advantage having their partner back. Kristin says please don't tell me I get my mom back and then go home.. Alli says yellow team won a choice. Aubrey says we decided to take the 2 pound advantage. Alli says $2,500 a pound. Good choice. Two teams with lowest % fall below the yellow line. Blue team first since Sione won immunity. They lose 11 pounds. Filipe grimaces at losing only 3, while Sione loses another 8. Next up will be Mandi/Aubrey/yellow. Aubrey tells us she is pretty confident that they had done enough. Aubrey loses 10, Mandi 6. Aubrey is happy. Mandi says they should have taken the money. Alli says that's pretty confident, we haven't weighed anyone else in yet. Mandi giggles that she was just kidding. Aubrey is pumped to lose 10 after only losing 2 in 30 days. She hopes she redeemed herself, says I can work hard if I have the right tools, indicates that Jillian is her tool. They lost 3.90% (this includes their 2 lb advantage) Next is Joelle/Carla/silver, Joelle looks subdued, Carla smiling, Bob is nervous.. here it is. We're gonna see.. Joelle is concerned that her numbers aren't strong, but Carla is back, plus Bob's team has more members who can vote and save us (ed. URK, Joelle, do not count on that!) Bob stands with his eyes rolled back in his head, spooky (well that was with my DVR paused) We get music sort of like theme music to some gladiator movie and then white light and fade to commercial. We return to find that Joelle has lost nothing, while Carla lost 9 pounds. We get ominous music (well I'm off the Joelle team for this week, but hope the Carla train can stay around) Joelle is stunned, she says to us, that she lost zero. Carla tells us when she saw that zero, she couldn't think about anything but here's another example of her letting me down. We hear people say "good job, Carla" Bob says he could just feel the shame coming out of Joelle. What excuse can you hide behind. Aubrey tells us she was shocked. She had expected to see that she had gained weight. Aubrey starts crying and Carla tells her it is ok. Alli asks why she is crying. Aubrey says "I love Carla; she works her ass off" Says it is a shame that Carla doesn't have a partner who has the same interests (lol, this from the person who only lost 2 lb at home, but.. true nevertheless). Joelle says Carla was definitely pulling more this week, had more fire. Joelle tells a stony faced group that she got into "high intensity" this week and challenged herself (Bob looks stunned) It was not enough. Aubrey tells us Joelle didn't make sense. She doesn't even know what she's talking about. Shanon is so mad that Jeelle can stand up there with no accountability for what she's done to her team, her partner, while Carla is the biggest woman they've ever had and fighting for her life, while Joelle stands there and spaces out and won't even say she is sorry. Bob says bottom line, with teams you have to be in synch all the time. One person does not make a team, and it is obvious here. Joelle has many issues and it is hard to get her to focus, but when I see zero pounds, I'm not shocked by that. Alli says how do we fix it. Bob says it starts with Joelle. Alli, Carla you lost 9 pounds this week, Joelle, you lost 0) Their percent, Carla's percent 1.44% (Carla herself lost 2.6%) They move into second place, for now (and would be behind yellow even without the 2 pound advantage) Up now: Blaine/Dane/Black. Jillian tells us they are most disadvantaged.. Dane has been losing double digits every week..She is worried this will be the bad week and they will be gone. Blaine loses 9 and Dane loses 11. With a 3.04% loss, they move into second place (and again, the 2 pound advantage didn't make a difference) Yellow team is safe from elimination. Tara/Laura/green need to lose 15 pounds to be safe. Laura's heart is pounding. Laura loses 13, Tara 12, for a big 25 pound loss and safety! Green team hugs and celebrates. Lauren tells us this shows she really needs to be here. Kristin is really worried at the numbers she sees going up. How can I compete with this, this is tough. With 4.84% Green team goes to the top. They are safe, Black and Silver teams still vulnerable. Mike/Ron/brown (who have been almost invisible tonight so far) weigh in next. Ron says last week we were below the yellow line which sucked, horrible. Just want to be over that line. They both look sort of hangdog. They need to have lost more than 21 pounds to be over yellow line. Nope. Mike loses 9 and Ron loses 4. Mike is really upset. Says his dad is 54 years old with 2 bad knees, can't do what others can. Ron was hoping for a bigger number, he says. Says we both worked hard this week. Alli says with two teams to weigh in, not over yet. Bob says it was like a punch in the stomach. But they are ahead of silver with 1.83%. Black team is now safe. Next up is pink team. They need to have lost more than 8 pounds. Shanon says her first weigh in, they wanted to prove they can lose weight together. And indeed, they lose 9 pounds each! They are quite happy. Bob says this is how a team works together. And man, I could feel the shame coming off of Joelle. (Carla has been quite happy for the teams that do well, congratulating them) They lose 3.75% and go into third (finally here, the 2 pounds makes a difference in the standings, at least). They are safe and Carla and Joelle are officially below the yellow line. One more team to weigh in: the purple team. Will purple or brown join silver below the yellow line tonight. Kristin/Cathy/purple go up. Kristin tells us weighing in last sucks and that she had thought with her weight she had an advantage but it isn't so, I'm just barely making it every time. Alli doesn't tell how much they have to lose for safety. Before commercial they make it look shocking.. Back from break, they find out they need to lose more than 10 pounds and they do.. Cathy loses her 5 but Kristin pulls off an 11 pound drop. Her mouth drops open. Loud applause from all. Kristin is speechless, for the first time, she says. She says having her mom back makes her so happy. Mom is bursting with pride. Their % is 2.74% moving them just above the yellow line. Brown team joins Silver below the yellow line and vulnerable. Alli tells them they are safe and brown team is below the line. Brown and silver up for elimination. Bob and Jill must say goodbye to the teams and they do so and leave the gym. Alli points out this isn't the first trip below the yellow line for either team. They have an hour to explain how much they want to be here. (Will Joelle snap to it and at least ask to stay for Carla's sake?) Carla says it isn't a hard decision, because the house has given Joelle so many opportunities. Carla's crying . to prove herself and we're in week 6 and she still hasn't. Elimination Joelle says she heard all their concerns and Carla did very well this week and the proof is in the pudding (all this said with little affect). My results did not show. Carla looks unimpressed. Aubrey demands an explanation "from you about you" and if you really want to be here, honestly, like tell the truth, because if you don't, that can be remedied easily. Joelle starts to speak but Aubrey talks over her "we just want to know" yes or no (again, interesting person to be asking this) Joelle 'Ummm..." Carla cannot take it and yells "JoELLE! I want to be here; I don't know about you." Joelle says Carla hasn't been here. Carla shouts, BUT I'M HERE NOW!" She asks where all that sparkle and shine was, I have to suffer because of YOU? Because of your in capabilities, because you can't focus and oh, woe is me and .. Joelle says she doesn't want to give a pity party and she does want to be here. Helen says you should have dedicated yourself to Carla the moment she came into the house. Carla agrees. And you didn't, says Helen. Carla says you aren't here by yourself! It isn't about you. How many times have we been below the yellow line? I wasn't even here, I know the first time we were. You, by yourself, not with me but with you (below the line), because of that, this could be our opportunity to go home. They shout over each other. Aubrey asks if Joelle worked out as hard this week as last week. Joelle says yes. Joelle fights to be heard but says her actions impact her and would she like to be here and fight more, yes! Do I want to impact her (Carla) no and that hurts me greatly. Carla looks unhappy. Carla starts crying, says I'm sorry. I really want to be here and this is the second time I put my fate in your hands and second time you failed me. She says she worked harder, she knew Joelle wasn't. Joelle says she gained significant insight to me this week. Physically (she shrugs) and growing. (huh?) Shanon tells us it is like she's not even on this planet. The light switch is OFF. Shanon says same old song and dance every week; people get sick of it. Carla says "all I can say is" They all tell her they know she wants to be here, they love her, appreciate her passion. She thanks them. Carla says and because of my team mate I have to suffer. Mike says words are cheap and actions are deep and you see us in the gym every day just as long as you guys are. We are in this 100%. I want to be here. It wasn't good enough I guess. Ron says we have to be here and I feel sorry for Carla, I really do. I asked you last week not to send my son home and I ask you again. 100% of this team wants to be here and I hope you guys vote that way. Time to vote now.. dramatic music plays as they march in tow by two. Alli says we are going to get right to the vote. Pink team.. Shanon. Shanon cries and says she knows Carla wants to be here, so um when it came down to voting we had to vote for Helen/Shanon/pink votes for Carla and Joelle Yellow.. Aubrey says Carla, you're my girl, you know. You hold yourself accountable and that's the most important part. Mandi/Aubrey/yellow votes for JOELLE & Carla Aubrey says she wanted to show who she was voting out, Joelle, not Carla. "the scale doesn't lie". Joelle asks to say something. She doesn't want it to be twisted that she hasn't learned, worked, persevered. I am offended, I know what I did . I ''m looking at a zero myself, but when I leave here, I'm proud of myself and my accomplishments. You don't know my story and how I've persevered. My scale record is low, but my work ethic is good (this is pp) No one wants to hear it. Two more votes and silver will be eliminated Filipe/Sione/blue loves Carla and Joelle too. Glad you voiced your opinion and I'm about to voice mine too. It is a team effort and I can't stand selfishness. Votes for JOELLE & Carla Tara/Laura/green Tara says Joelle, we've given you chances again and again Carla and Joelle (with "you will be missed" pointed at Carla's name) Carla has thanked each person for their kind words to her. So, silver team is eliminated. Carla smiles at Rob. Everyone hugs Carla. No one hugs Joelle. She walks out. Joelle and Carla talk of their loss at leaving. Carla says there are no easy fixes. Joelle says they both want to come to the finale and look great, so have challenges. Carla tells Joelle she hopes with going home that she will be able to focus on what she needs to do You have to stop saying I'm going to try and start saying I will do it. My hands are always out there; my door is always open, so it is up to you if you want to come (Joelle's body language is all away from Carla. Carla: America, when you see us at the finale, you better believe that we will have lost the weight that we intended to lose while we were here on the ranch and that we will have come together as a team. Joelle is nodding yes. Joelle "Silver Bullets have not stopped and will continue to blaze at home". We see Detroit Joelle says when I left the ranch I was pretty dismayed. I was really humiliated and mortified. Carla says I was really angry with Joelle, because I thought she didn't put her all into that week, maybe she got tired and didn't want to be there Several months after leaving The Ranch, Joelle & Carla still haven't spoken. This is their first meeting. Carla, I'm not sure if she really wants to patch our friendship up. I would like to see her so we can clear the air and we can move forward with our friendship. They sit at a table. They compliment each other. Carla asks if Joelle can understand why she reacted as she did. Joelle says she isn't sure what she's speaking of. Carla says I wasn't sure you were giving it your all. It felt like you were there for yourself. Joelle says "I brought you back and now I'm focusing more with me and to go around in repetitive circles" Carla says we are not. I have a lot more that I need to get off my chest with you and you don't want to hear it. We are friends, supposed to be" Joelle "No we're not". Carla "I guess you weren't from the beginning" Joelle "that's it. I'm bleeping done" and walks out. Carla says "I do feel that, because of her selfishness, that I was cheated out of an opportunity of a lifetime. But I know I can do this on my own. Joelle tells us "No more silver team. That was over when we left the ranch" We see Joelle working out in a gym with a trainer. Now we are achieving as individuals. We see her drop her big jeans. Carla I'll get over it, I'm just going to take advantage of losing weight, working out. She drops her jeans. We see her working out with a trainer Joelle has lost 57 pounds total. She is planning on wearing a size 10 dress at the Finale Carla has lost 87 pounds and plans to break the record for weight loss by a female contestant. This leaves Bob with: Ron, Mike, Filipe, Sione, Kristen, Cathy, Helen and Shanon. And Jillian has Dane, Blaine, Tara, Laura, Aubrey and Mandi.
Trainer color | Name | Age | Height | Starting Weight | Previous Weight | Current Weight | Loss | % | Total Loss | Week 4 | | B blu | Filipe | 26 | 5'11" | 364 | 311 | 308 | -3 | team | -56 | Immune | B blu | Sione | 28 | 6'0" | 372 | 324 | 316 | -8 | -1.73% | -56 | Immune | | J grn | Tara | 23 | 5'9" | 294 | 252 | 240 | -12 | team | -54 | safe | J grn | Laura | 24 | 5'9" | 285 | 265 | 252 | -13 | -4.84% | -33 | safe | | J ylw | Mandi | 30 | 5'9" | 263 | 227 | 221 | -6 | team | -44 | 2 pound safe | J ylw | Aubrey | 28 | 5'5" | 249 | 234 | 224 | -10 | -3.90% | -25 | advantage safe | | B pnk | Helen | 47 | 5'6" | 257 | 225 | 216 | -9 | team | -41 | safe | B pnk | Shanon | 29 | 5'5" | 283 | 255 | 246 | -9 | -3.75% | -37 | safe | | J blk | Blaine | 27 | 6'8" | 365 | 312 | 303 | -9 | team | -61 | safe | J blk | Dane | 27 | 6'4" | 412 | 345 | 334 | -11 | -3.05% | -78 | safe | | B prp | Kristin | 28 | 5'6" | 360 | 312 | 301 | -11 | team | -59 | safe | B prp | Cathy | 48 | 5'8" | 293 | 273 | 268 | -5 | -2.74% | -25 | safe | | B brn | Ron | 54 | 6'0" | 430 | 370 | 366 | -4 | team | -64 | below | B brn | Mike | 18 | 5'11" | 388 | 339 | 330 | -9 | -1.83% | -58 | line | | B sil | Joelle | 41 | 5'8" | 309 | 278 | 278 | 0 | team | -25 | below line eliminated week 5 | B sil | Carla | 36 | 5'8" | 379 | 348 | 339 | -9 | -1.44% | -40 | below line eliminated week 5 | | J org | Daniel | 19 | 5'8" | 454 | 406 | 394 | -12 | -2.96% | -60 | eliminated week 4 | J org | David | 23 | 6'0" | 393 | 377 | (347) | | | (-46) | eliminated week 4 | | B red | Nicole | 37 | 5'8" | 269 | 251 | (193) | | | (-76) | Home eliminated week 3 | B red | Damien | 31 | 5'11" | 381 | 351 | (307) | | | (-74) | eliminated week 3 | | J wht | Estella | 63 | 5'8" | 242 | 233 | (199) | | | (-43) | Home eliminated week 2 | J wht | Jerry | 63 | 6'3" | 369 | 343 | (259) | | | (-84) | eliminated week 2 | | Numbers in () are as reported when eliminated teams are shown and a number is given)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 2:16 am
The only possible way silver team would have stayed was if they were in bottom two with one of Jillian's teams. I'm so off the Joelle train, as far as continuing on the ranch, but do wish she'd perhaps get some counselling, because she just seems so down. Don't think anyone on the ranch was supportive, including Bob and she became the super scapegoat, especially since they could see how it impacted Carla, who was working so hard. I still wish Joelle had had a chance to work with Jillian. Maybe that would have helped, maybe not. Carla rocks! Brown team better get it together.. he cannot live on "keep my son here" forever.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 2:18 am
I also found it sort of jarring that they had so many comments from the returnees this week, commenting about stuff that had happened while they were gone. I realize they probably wanted to work them into the narrative since they had been gone awhile, but sometimes it made little sense to do it that way. And I did find Aubrey to be awfully self righteous considering her terrible showing at home. I imagine Bob will be quite sad for Carla but really happy to have Joelle gone. His big worry now is working Mike oops, Ron without wrecking his knees.
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 4:29 am
Oh yeah, I agree Gidget. I am NOT a fan of Aubrey. Now, I understand that it's probably very hard with 5 kids.....but her excuses! LOVED Jillian (and Bob) calling her out. THEN, she goes off on Joelle. PLEASE!
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 6:46 am
Gigdet, ITA with what you wrote. Carla should have played that angle. Did they show anything about Mike's work out routine last night? I know he has 2 bad knees, but what exercises can he do? I would think that info would be very helpful to overweight people who have bad knees. Did Filipe waterload to post a small loss since they had immunity?
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 8:02 am
Gidget, I agree as well (re: Joelle). There is something very *off* about her affectation, very flat. Makes me wonder if she has some depression issues or a passive-agressive nature but whatever her problem it must have been evident to the trainers/medical advisors on the show. Is there more we didn't see? Did she turn down offers to help? Part of me was hoping Carla would point out that game-wise, brown team was a bigger threat but in the end I liked what the dad said, "100% of THIS team wants to be here".
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 8:53 am
I thought Ron has bad knees.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 9:18 am
How funny Miss 'I gained muscle instead of weight..2 Pounds' Audrey tried to talk to Joelle about accountability. What a joke! I'm so over the yellow team. It sucked seeing Carla go, but I think she probably had known that Joelle would be the one who would hold her back. If Joelle would only suck it up and accept that it was her fault, they could possibly still be friends. But when she opens her mouth, nothing comes out. That girl needs some serious help. Brown team needs to get their crap together. And for the son to be mad for that second that his dad lost only 4 pounds, wasn't it him that was holding them back the prior weeks? Sure they lost weight, but they need to step it up a notch. Blue team is awesome. Tara is still my favorite, and I hope that Laura does not pull a Joelle and drag her down. I hope they will play individually soon.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:41 am
Is it just me or does the black team seem immune to drama? I am not seeing as much focus on them as some of the other teams and they are quietly taking care of business. They are the only team of Jillian's that I like. Yellow and green can go the sooner the better. I'm not much more enamored with the two mother daughter teams either. And frankly that brown team is starting to sound like they have an entitlement. I would love to love the blue team but I still don't like the way they picked on Joelle. I hate to support the black team because they seem to have everything going for them but they are to me right now the most palatable.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:52 am
I agree that there might have been some depression or passive agressive tendencies on Joelle's part. Or, it may be as simple as she wanted to be on Biggest Loser but could not handle the competitive aspect of it. On her own, she appears to be doing really well.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 11:15 am
How many times did they ask Joelle if she really wanted to be there? She kept on talking in circles, and not making much sense. Only until it turned into a yelling match did she finally answer. I'm sorry, I guess I would not have the patience for her hemming and hawing, and I would lose it with her too. I've been back and forth with Joelle, and at first I just assumed she was an introverted person who really does not know how to communicate well with others and actually was feeling sorry for her. But now I just believe she really didn't want to come on the show, but the money did peak her interest. Once she realized that there was actual work involved, she shut down. And her pulling words outta her butt and not making any sense whatsoever, and not taking any kind of responsibility just turned me off. And I would have gone left on her too. The girl needs help.
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 12:04 pm
I have sympathy for Joelle going home, but I would have been really ticked off with her if I were there working and not seeing her do the same. Especially with some hard workers going home. Still, I think when you have lots of old messages in your head sometimes it is difficult to get beyond them. Like when I step on the treadmill almost every time I think I am not going to be able to keep at it five minutes...yet I also know from past experience if I stay on, after about 15 minutes something triggers and I can go as long as I need to go. If my brain still gives me those messages after years and years, I can understand why someone who hasn't built that history seems paralyzed. I like the Black and Green teams best at this point, but really don't dislike anyone.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 12:10 pm
I also want to add that with Seamonkey, I really do believe that the outcome would have might have been different if the silver team was under Jillian. She takes the time to know the reason why you are the way you are, and what to do to fix that.
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Pinkij
Member
05-02-2008
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 12:13 pm
I agree. I was really glad that the silver team finally went home. Even though Carla really wanted to be there. I don't think Joelle ever wanted to. And she was lucky she lasted this long on the show. I don't think she's depressed, or has passive agressive, she just didn't not care at all(well maybe she cared about the prize money). <100> and everyone on there finally had enough I remember at the temptation challenge with that limo and the money (i forget how much it was, I think 250,000) was there and Allison said if anyone wanted to leave now they could go cross the line in into the limo and go. Joelle was really close to going over that line at last second just as time was up. And she was upset that she didn't do it. Also she said last night that that if her team were on the bottom with someone on Jillian's team that she was so sure that her team weren't going to vote her off because there is more people on Bob's team. Even though the last time she was on the bottom her whole team voted her off.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 1:07 pm
I must be the only one who liked Joelle and disliked Carla. If anyone screamed at me the way Bob and Carla screamed at Joelle, I might have slowed down just to "show" them. I felt sorry for Joelle because she really didn't think she could do it and it became a self fulfilling prophecy. It was cruel the way everyone came down on her at the end and she walked out alone. I don't blame her for being upset that Carla wants to rehash and rehash their problems.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 2:56 pm
Ketch, thanks. I meant Ron re the bad knees workout.
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Tvjunkie
Member
11-26-2006
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 4:33 pm
I agree with you Mama... I liked Joelle and really felt bad that everyone was screaming at her. Carla really got on my nerves. She was not supportive at all. She could have used another angle with the crowd to stay on as someone said above. <100>. Everyone used her to take out their frustrations. I'm glad she lost more weight on her own and it would be a hoot if she came back and won the $100.000... THAT WOULD BE PRICELESS... Oh and the mom with 5 kids that lost 2 pounds has no room to talk.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 5:08 pm
When Joelle's team previouisly voted against her, they were voting to keep another pair on their team, same as this week. Since the Biggest Loser prize is only $250,000, that wasn't offered in that temptation. It was $25,000 as the final offer.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 8:43 pm
Carla was not Joelle's downfall. She was only there for 2 weeks of the 8 they were on the ranch. Granted, Bob probably did give up on her, but I would have too since there were more people there who WANTED to be there and showed that they did want to be there. I would rather give my time and energy to them. The only enemy that Joelle had was Joelle.
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