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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 3:30 pm
Anyone who goes on television and says that he despises the mother of his children is the lowest of the low. Evidently it's more important for him to have "his say", then to worry about the affect this would have on his children. I'm glad that she had the understanding that responding ugly back would not be a good idea.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:06 pm
Well in my estimation, Kate has said many many mean horrible things to Jon and treated him like the lowest of low and she did it all on camera and right in front of the kids. I also saw Kate on tv crying fake tears. She also did say that the kids were not in counceling as yet but they will be when the time is right. Is she waiting until they are old enough to get their licence so they can drive themselves???? I don't agree with everything Jon has done, but Kate is just as wrong as he is. The magazines call her the victim and him the scumbag...... now how nice is that for the kids to read and how fair is that and no wonder he is so angry.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:13 pm
Kate has nothing to do with a magazine calling Jon a scumbag. I saw Kate cry too, and I say that they were real tears, as do many others. Personally, we don't know how the children are doing, so why criticize her for not putting them in counseling? I'm not privvy to any insider information, but maybe some of you are?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:25 pm
absolutely kate treated him badly at times, and yes..the kids saw that, but to have your dad say he despises your mom on national tv imho is very different.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:28 pm
I did see a close up of her in an interview and she had a tissue and kept dabbing at her eyes and I taped it and kept going back over it and I really did not see any real tears in the one I saw. I realize that Kate didn't call Jon a scumbag but she has said some horrible things to him in front of the kids. I think they both need to stop and I agree with them going to co-parenting classes. I think that would help everyone and especially the kids. They are the ones who I really feel bad for.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:31 pm
I also seem to recall a show where Kate told the kids not to listen to their father because he is just mean, so she is no better than him.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:37 pm
...and Jon has done things with the kids right after telling Kate he wouldn't, and said things such as "don't tell your mother". Hate Kate all you want for her attitude, but she's not in the tabloids flaunting her newfound singleness, and saying "I miss my life in New York" as if the children were meaningless to her.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:45 pm
If it was flipped, and Kate was on national television saying "I despise Jon", I think there would be a whole lot more screaming and yelling. This isn't about sides. This is about a parent saying something on national television that should NEVER be said.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:46 pm
Sure Kate was not the one who put "scumbag" on a magazine directly. But she is the one who keeps her family front and center by staying on the show. So I do blame her in part for the kids seeing that their dad referred to as a scumbag on the cover of a national magazine. (This is no way means I don't think Jon has had very questionable moves lately....)
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 5:49 pm
If it was flipped, and Kate was on national television saying "I despise Jon", I think there would be a whole lot more screaming and yelling. You've got that right!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:02 pm
why are we so convinced it's kate insisting they stay on the show?? just because jon says he is looking for other areas of income? If it was flipped, and Kate was on national television saying "I despise Jon", I think there would be a whole lot more screaming and yelling. amen
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:16 pm
I've never read or heard that John 'despises' Kate. He is on Primtime tonight, so what he says there is probably more truthful. Kate did abuse him verbally just about every week, so no one should be shocked if John now feels that way. As for Kate's tears, this is what she wanted..fame. She got it and Jon just wasn't good enough anymore. That's just how I feel; so she can cry real tears or fake tears, but she just went too far and now Jon doesn't want anything to do with her. While he is far from perfect, she was a fool to treat him that badly and actually say she wanted to separate. Be careful what you wish for..it might happen. Couples counseling may have done her a world of good, but she probably refused it because she was over Jon. Sadly, because she kept pushing the children issue, she didn't have the right to be over him. For the children's sake, she should have done everything in her power to try to make it work. In a few years, she might have seen him in a whole different light..who knows?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:32 pm
Cricket, he says it tonite. There have been several clips of the interview already posted.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 6:33 pm
Cricket, they're playing clips from Jon's interview that will be on Primetime tonight. He did say he despised her.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 7:31 pm
learned some things tonite jon is very angry jon more than likely has another reality show in the works chris coumo did not like him i loved those old movies when the babies were little!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 7:49 pm
...and Jon's eyes could not have been opened any wider. What, was he high or something, or was it just the hatred?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:14 pm
So far, only 10 minutes in, I am finding Jon to be more forthcoming and more believable. It feels like he is speaking from the heart, not just giving very controled, very planned sound bites. He said Kate kept him from his mother and brothers. That's she'd use the kids to guilt him, telling him "don't spend time with your mom, spend time with your kids". His question is why can't he do both? Sounds like he did last weekend. I agree that the interviewer seems to show some distain for him.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:22 pm
I agree that the interviewer seems to show some distain for him. That's because he's a professional interviewer and therefore knows when he's hearing BS.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:23 pm
Very interesting that Jon says he went to counseling and Kate refused to go, but she asked him to fly to CA and meet with Dr. Phil. Jon went reluctantly, but said the discussions weren't at all about how to repair the marriage, they were about how to repair the image and their "brand". The network contacted Dr. Phil, but he had "no comment". Wow.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:36 pm
It said that Dr. Phil had no comment about the marriage...
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:40 pm
I guess the interview is over. Jon says he's made mistakes, you learn from them. He said he felt jealous of Kate going off with the bodyguard. He's suspicious. (Honestly, I don't think anything romantic happened btw Kate and the body guard, but there was probably an emotional intimacy, a close friendship that Jon was picking up on and felt jealous of). Jon said she stood up for himself for the first time in January, told Kate he was going out with friends. He says he fell in love with Hailey after the marriage fell apart. He understands that people say it's too soon, a rebound, but he feels you can't help who you love.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 8:57 pm
i just don't buy the dr phil thing simply because i think that would have been leaked all over the press if it was true!!! i hope hailey is the one. those kids don't need to see their daddy in a series of relationships.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 9:15 pm
The Dr phil statement seemed to suggest he had spoken to them. This is the exact quote: " I respect the G's privacy. I have no comment on their marriage." Jon says this happened in March. I would think it if were false then Dr Phil would have said "I did not meet with the G's" in his statement.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:35 pm
So I'm confused by this latest story from Jon. First he said he didn't do anything with anyone and that all the pictures and whatnot were lies. Then he said that Kate told him in September that the marriage was over, told him to do whatever he wanted, she was having an affair with the bodyguard. He was devastated, went to therapy, she refused and finally he gave up when she told him things weren't going to change. Only then did he decide to act as a free man. In this latest version, she was endlessly abusing him and he finally stood up to her and told her he was going out with friends. He now only thinks she was having an affair of the bodyguard but has no actual proof. Is he still claiming that she is the one that told him it was over and he begged her to reconsider? By the way, in all this "honesty" did he address the issue of the schoolteacher, the one that he was seen leaving her house in the early hours? The one that he was with BEFORE his marriage officially ended and before he "fell in love" with Hailey? Or is that being completely ignored?
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Tuesday, September 08, 2009 - 10:42 pm
First of all a professional interviewer is supposed to interview not take sides. I saw a Jon that was very real, not high. He was very emotional and yes he does have anger and I can understand it. Yes he did say that he despised Kate but he also added that he would always love her as the mother of his children. I would also like to know why Kates family has nothing to do with her.
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