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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 7:26 pm
Maybe she has a choice....But it's like when a music artist has a new CD out. They sell TONS more of the CD if they do a tour of concerts across the country promoting it.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 7:48 pm
Misty, I'm sure it depends on the contract they sign. She may well have negotiated a two book deal long ago beore she had any idea what a book tour would be like. Who's to say? Or it may be her choice and that's alright too, IMO. Naja, yep and they even do things like appearig on American Idol out of the blue, when they have a CD coming out.. lol!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 8:18 pm
No, it isn't their fault that they are in tabloids. Of course, some could argue they made that choice back in the day signing up for anything public. I don't personally think that way. I do think if you make that choice you have to have thick skin. BUT, it IS their fault what they choose to publically say. They may not have control over what is printed about them but they have control over their words and actions and being in the public eye should not be an excuse. Maybe she is contracted to do a book chat/tour, she is not contracted to speak about the flaws of her children's father. She made that choice as much as he made the choice to show his flaws. The tabloids did not do that to them. They are not victims their children are.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 8:28 pm
True she could have gone on Larry King and tried to only talk about the book and say "no comment" to wach question, but then people would assume the worst or think she was agreeing to all the charges.. I think this does happen to early celebrities where they think they have to lash back and it just turns and turns on them so manyof them simply say nothing, unless it is so bad they have a good lawsuit. But it takes time, I guess. I hope people like Larry are taking her aside and pointing that out, that it is best to just not comment or even read the tripe if possible.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 9:54 pm
Thanks for the info re: the birthdays above, Sea.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 4:59 am
Exactly, Sea...if she had 'no commented' the whole thing she would have been criticized too. she is truly damned if you do, damned if you don't. so is jon for that matter too.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 7:03 am
Sea is correct. If Kate signed a contract specifying that she would be available for a tour and book signings in order to promote said book, then she is obligated to travel to wherever the publisher wants her to go. Failure to do so could be breach of contract and could require that she return any monies received (as well as be subject to a lawsuit). In this context, traveling to promote the book IS her job. Presumably, she'll negotiate better terms next time. If traveling is such a hardship to her family and/or relationship, then she should recognize that and remove or limit that clause. (FWIW, people do get books published without having to go on tour. However, if you want to make a lot of money on a book, touring is almost a necessity.)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 7:24 am
i truly can't imagine someone saying 'no..i don't want to do anything to make my book sell better. i just wrote it for fun.'
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 9:31 am
I guess it all depends on a persons priorities. I guess people aren't getting my point and that is not a big deal. They were doing fine financially doing the show, so if she wanted to write a book there was no financial reason that she has to do the tours, she was already known because of the show and people would buy the books because she was "known". There was no financial reason she has to do her speaking engagements. If she has a desire to do so because she feels good doing it or it gives her a moment to be Kate and not Jon and Kate plus 8, I get that. I just don't like how she acts like we should feel sorry for her having to travel and be away when it was a choice she made. Yes if it is in her contract she has to do it, but I would think she could work with them to not have it be crazy schedules, if that is what she wanted. They are both playing the victim when truly the children are the ones that may get hurt in the end.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 9:53 am
I get your point Misty. Kate has to decide what is more important to her. Now I personally do not fault her for wanting to tour. Sounds like a fairly easy way to get $$$. But then she cannot complain about it. Sounds to me like she is playing victim and acting like she has no choice. Don't even try to tell me that they don't have millions of dollars at this point, even without the book.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:00 am
LOL Annie. Misty, there may be no financial reason for KATE to do the tours, but there is for the publishing house. However, Kate signed the contract for the book and therefore is obligated to comply with the conditions. Which almost always include promos. At that point, the author basically becomes the publisher's slave.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:00 am
Gee give this woman a break. She wants a career for herself that will assist in supporting her family...who among you hasn't done the same thing or would not in similar circumstances do the same thing? She has eight children but she also has a husband who is jobless and can stay at home with HIS children...if the situation was reversed would we all be criticizing Jon nearly as much? The double standards WE, most of us women, set on other women is ridiculous. It's not like she's going to the other side of the world to shoot a movie for a month or something...she is away a few nights in a row...the children will survive. In fact they might even thrive by having the assurance that their Mommy will come back home again. They are old enough now to comprehend that and they are surrounded by people who know them and care for them. If I had 8 children I would definitely (if I could afford it) have help. It takes a lot to run a household with that many children in it, especially when they are all similar ages. The laundry alone probably is overwhelming, not to mention trying to keep up the mess and the dishes and the meals. And if I could afford to get away every once in a while you bet I would be doing it...I'm a firm believer in mental health breaks for both Mommies and Daddies. In my opinion Kate should give herself a break The Mommy guilt really never goes away...we can never feel like we are doing enough for our children...but when Kate is at home it truly seems like she is "present" for her children, not locked away from them and allowing other people to raise her children. So she goes away for a little while...her kids will survive.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:17 am
I don't see anyone on this board saying that Kate shouldn't go on tour. Only that she should not play victim about it.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:16 am
with all the computer inventions out there, why coudnt she do a web cast for her book....or twitter (whatever that is) or something...she could have a office at home and do her stuff right there... All this Jon & Kate stuff has me thinking about my little spanish grannie who had 13 children, no multiples...never learned to drive a car and her apron was always on.... she hung her clothes on a clothes line and cooked every meal from scratch.... sewed clothes, walked to the store, walked to church and had all her little munchkins trailing behind....and then as soon as they left home....the hoards of grandchildren were there constently...... She is gone now, but she was the kindest and most loving woman ever....and she believed every thing in the tabloids, she loved Star and all those...her window to the world...LOL.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 11:17 am
I don't think she is playing victim. She is stating a fact...'when i am gone, it's cause i am working'. if she didn't show mommy guilt about being away from the kids, wouldn't she be blasted for that???
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 12:11 pm
I have a friend who is an author. She is REQUIRED by the terms of her book deal to do so many book signing dates and appearances. It is not an option. Perhaps Kate has the same deal. On another note - if it were Jon who was traveling about doing the book signing etc, would he be facing the same tribunal. And finally - If everyone is sooo concerned for those kids, there is one way they can help... STOP WATCHING. TLC ratings will go in the toilet and the show will be canceled. Problem solved.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 12:12 pm
with all the computer inventions out there, why coudnt she do a web cast for her book....or twitter (whatever that is) or something...she could have a office at home and do her stuff right there... OMG..i could just hear the comments now if she did a webcast... 'who does kate think she is that she can't go meet the people who buy her book in person???!!' LOL
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 1:31 pm
Damned if she does...Damned if she doesn't... I agree she is NOT playing "victim". She has only stated when she is in fact gone,she is WORKING. As far as "They were doing fine financially before the books",How do we know that? They have EIGHT children..We were doing "fine" two years ago too,and we only have 2 daughters. But times are changing,everything costs more and I see no problem with her "Striking while the iron is hot",As long as she loves those children and they are not suffering,she is doing fine.I think without any of our input she will definitely re-think her Terms on the next book endeavor. On a different note,I wonder how much chatter there would be AT ALL if it were JON on a book tour? Just sayin'
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 2:06 pm
I think, again, the point is not being seen/understood. Yes, she is working, and I see nothing wrong with that. I am sure her kids are being well taken care of when she is gone. (And with any amount of kids, I think it is very healthy for a mom to get a break from them from time to time..) The point is, she does not likely NEED to work. Not like so very many of us all do. I am quite sure that the show alone has provided enough moolah for them all for a very long time. SO the point is that the book and the (presumed) required travel is OPTIONAL. So when she is in her chair, talking to us, kind of crying and stating that she "has" to work (insinuating that when Jon is gone it is not because he is working...) then I view her as playing the victim. If she just said, hey, I am gone on a book tour, and did not go on like she absolutely HAD to go, then I would not even bat an eye. I think writing books is very smart of her right now. Especially if you have seen her latest book. It is a little "brag book" type thing with some family pics and bible quotes. Must have been very easy/simple to throw together. Not at all like Multiple Blessings, which must have been very time consuming to write. The iron is hot right now, so I see no reason she should not try to capitalize on it! But don't try to garner any sympathy, cuz it is her choice.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 2:33 pm
Julie, I think your point isn't being missed, I just think some people view it differently. I don't think she is whining or playing a victim. Also one may 'have' to work for more reasons than money..honoring a commitment, self satisfaction, future financial stability. Frankly, given this economy and what my dh and I are going through, if I had the chance to stock my store house, I would!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 2:53 pm
ITA Texannie. Besides what you've pointed out, I think what some perceive as a "poor me" appearance, looks more like an "I'm exhausted" one to me. Plus, she stated that the issues with her and Jon started over 6 months ago. All of that, along with following through with committments to the publishers (which I assume she has), clearly have taken their toll on Kate. When I see her, she looks tired and sad. That's quite different from looking like she's playing victim or whatever some people say.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 3:48 pm
'Tired and sad'. That was a psycologist's take on her last night on Larry Kind.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 4:10 pm
I was watching Inside Edition today. They were showing home movies of them from the early years....there was definite love there. As most parents know, raising kids is hard. I can't imagine the challenges they face. Hopefully they will work all of this out. The story went on to talk about her 'glamorous makeover'. Well, she was pretty darn cute before she had the babies. Many women stop coloring their hair while they are pregnant, and not to mention being pregnant with twins and then 4 years later with 6 kind of puts looking good on the back burner. I didn't give birth and I looked pretty ratty those early years of my kids life...there just wasn't time! LOL What does it say about us that when a woman does take time for herself and her looks that she is criticized as shallow, vain and frivilous?
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Lori32
Member
07-04-2008
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 4:38 pm
I want an emoticon that represents banging my head on my desk..Because every time someone says something about people not understanding something because they have a different OPINION ,or way that they choose to perceive it,I wanna bang my head until I am knocked unconscious,or until this whole Jon/Kate mess is resolved.Whichever comes first.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 4:42 pm
I think you are gonna have to be unconscious for a long, long time!!! 
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