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Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I missed it. Why is she not on good terms with her parents?

Rissa
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03-19-2006

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
The rumours are that she isn't close with her parents and I believe it goes back to the birth of the six when the parents church group donated cribs, etc and Kate (rumour only) wouldn't take them unless they matched. Kate herself says she does talk to her parents often (phone and email, not sure where they live but it doesn't seem to be within driving distance) and they are close but it's the type of relationship that flourishes better at a bit of a distance. She has made cryptic remarks about some grandparents just not being as interested in being hands-on as much as others. As with most stories I would put money on the truth being somewhere in the middle.

Mgmriver
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04-27-2009

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mgmriver a private message Print Post    
From what we saw on the show Kate doesn't seem to be on good terms with a lot of family members. She also didn't appear to have close friends. She may not be the type that needed friends and family since she was married and had all those kids to worry about. Maybe this will change now that she's single. I imagine she'll need to socialize, just to keep her sanity. It was different when she was married but now alone she'll definitely need to make new friends and maybe give her family another try.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
She did mention being lonely and how difficult it was to going through this experience alone.

I think she handled herself well last night.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I thought one issue was in not wanting to take used cribs, which isn't recommended anyway..

And also thought one issue was over whether they "reduced" the number of fetuses.. they started with seven and one didn't survive but Kate and Jon didn't want to "reduce"/kill off a fetus or two or three and some in the family didn't "agree" with that decision.

Also as I recall some family members (perhaps Jon's mom) didn't want to be filmed. Jon also mentioned that his mom was busy with his stepdad.

I guess I missed whatever was on last night.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, December 21, 2009 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I also thought the estrangement was due to her parents suggesting fetal reduction. I remember Jon saying that about his mom too.
I imagine it would be hard to be friends with Kate if you didn't want the media following you around and hard for Kate to trust the motive of someone wanting to befriend her. We have all seen how people seeking the public eye have attached themselves to jon.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 8:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
What I got from the show was her parents had a different opinion on how to care for the kids. I got that from my mother and I flat out told her that Alison is my child and she is doing fine. Back off. My father is just not interested in her.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
The car he was trying to get still doesn't look big enough for the kids, but good for Jon, at least he tried to downsize!

Jon Gosselin -- Failed Used Car Salesman

The same day Jon Gosselin's divorce was finalized -- and he was hit with huge child support payments -- we've learned he tried (and failed) to pad his wallet by trading in his beloved BMW for a profit.

TMZ spoke to an employee at Auto Exchange USA in Lancaster, PA, who told us Jon showed up at the car lot on Friday and wanted to trade his 2005 BMW M3 for a 2008 Subaru STI (pictured above) PLUS around $4,000 in cash.

We're told Jon's car wasn't worth nearly as much as he thought it was -- so he ended up leaving the lot without ever making a trade.

Ironically, this is the same car lot where Stephanie Santoro used to work -- the babysitter Jon allegedly hooked up with a while back.


I don't know how to bring pictures over, sorry. But here's the link: http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/22/jon-gosselin-kate-sell-car-bmw-divorce-sales-subaru-stephanie-santoro/

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
How funny........I know it is not nice to laugh at the misfortune of others but I can't help it. I wonder if the apartment in NYC is paid for.....Perhaps he can sublet it !

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
If Jon had the big fanbase he seemed to think he had awhile back, he could raffle off the BMW.. guess he's just too naive to realize that a new car usually takes a steep drop in "worth" the minute you drive off the lot.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I would like to add, I wouldnt take a used crib. They are not safe. Look at the recent recall's. I dont blame her for not wanting used on certain things.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I don't have kids, so I can't say from experience, but surely families that have three or four kids don't buy a new crib for each one? Or do they?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I would imagine that a crib you bought yourself, making sure it met current safety standards and subject to the amount and type of cleaning and maintenance that satisfied you, would be a different sort of "hand-me-down" than just taking someone else's used crib or carseat or whatever.

And often those hand me downs come after a crib has been in a family a long time and thus it might not meet current standards.. lead paints used to be used, for instance and with someone's old crib even a recent one, who knows if they painted or stained it is some way that you just didn't want your kids chewing on that rail?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I know Salvation Army won't take cribs anymore.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 10:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Tnt, depends on the crib quality and how hard the baby is on the crib. I can see some boys being the sole users of a crib.

Also, some cribs are much more well made than others. Our crib lasted for three girls. We gave it to a friend after that. They very much appreciated it. Some cribs won't last like that though. Also, some kids can be very hard on cribs. There are some things that as a mom I would never get as hand me downs, a crib from a stranger would be one of them. (car seats that have been in an accident are not to be used again either even if they seem fine)

Some people may not realize that you really need that drop down mechanism to lower the one crib side. You don't want to have to lean way down with a newborn, it may make the baby feel not secure and have the startle reflex. This is hard to explain....anyway, you need to be able to raise and lower that one rail sometimes multiple times a day and that gets done everyday for maybe two years...per each kid. So, even though the wood part of the crib may be sturdy and paint safe and lead free, that mechanism must be safe or the side can drop down on its own and baby can fall out of the crib.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - 11:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I was watching something on my DVR earlier and they were talking about recalls.. and that is another problem with used baby stuff.. did the former owner keep up with recalls?

Kathyb
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05-17-2006

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kathyb a private message Print Post    
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34515634/ns/entertainment-gossip/

By Courtney Hazlett
The Scoop
msnbc.com
updated 10:31 p.m. ET, Mon., Dec . 21, 2009

Jon Gosselin enjoys ‘shooting cans and stuff’

A few weeks ago, Jon Gosselin was part of a yoga photo shoot for Us
Weekly. Since then, he’s been decidedly less Zen. Gosselin was spotted
toting a gun on the property of the Wernersville, Penn., home he and
Kate shared before their Dec. 18 divorce. Life & Style magazine has
the back story to the sidearm.

“Jon and his friends were taking turns shooting at some type of target
for about an hour,” an eyewitness told the magazine. “He was using
real bullets and hit the target a couple of times.” Gosselin has a
permit for the gun, but was banned on Dec. 17 from having it near the
home, which now belongs to Kate and their eight kids.

“He enjoys shooting cans and stuff,” said the magazine source, who
also adds that the kids weren’t around when Jon and his friends held
target practice.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Jon + Gun = Shudder

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
You can just leave the "Gun" part right out of that equation OG, lol!

Jon = Shudder

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Thats an expensive hobby he cant afford.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It's the drop down mechanism that just caused millions of cribs to be recalled.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
The crib I used for my 1st son and now with the baby does not have a drop down side and we manage fine.

I would only take a used crib from a close family member or best friend.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Seriously.

This man continues to astonish me with his stupidity.

Anyone who thinks he is a good influence on his children should reconsider that thought.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 11:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
A few weeks ago, Jon Gosselin was part of a yoga photo shoot for Us Weekly. Since then, he’s been decidedly less Zen.

I'd forgotten about that, what happened to the whole yoga, and being zen thing?

Also, what happened with Jon and Rabbi Schmuley? Is Jon no longer seeing him? I'm surprised we haven't heard anything more about him and the Rabbi.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, December 23, 2009 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Panda, I agree, if you dont know the history of the used item (like a crib) I wouldnt use it for a baby.

I dont blame Kate at all. She did bed rest for the whole pg why risk the baby in a potentially unsafe crib. I think this is one issue people need to stop blaming her for.