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Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Well after seeing Jon get slapped with a law suit I doubt Kate will pull any stunts.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
The Duggars did the same questions & answers thing.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Hey, if TLC is willing to pay for it why shouldn't Kate do it? She does, after all, have a large family to support. If they wanted to come to my house and interview me believe me...I would even clean!

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I might even cook LOL! Honestly I never blamed Jon & kate for doing the show. Same with the Duggars. They got large broods, they found a way to provide for them. Secure College funds this way etc.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Julie, I'm SURE if you don't pay your mortage or rent it will be okay.. but in the end, me being sure won't keep you from being in financial trouble. So you can be sure, but Kate is the one who signed the contract.

As for her not wanting to draw people in currently, well, yeah.. who is she to trust? At the eye of a paparazzi and tabloid storm, she really cannot trust anyone, not even her brother and there are plenty of families who are estranged, but that doesn't require the brother to take money to speak on tv. She sure cannot trust Jon and anyone she hires, as hundreds of public figures could tell her.. they might just be a tell-all waiting to happen down the road.

She did trust a core group of the crew from TLC and Jon's doing his best to separate her from them as well.

She's never come across as soft edged to me, more brittle, but that may come from the insecurities of her childhood, lack of money and such.

Just like the discussion they showed again during the Q&A, when she and Jon were writing their will and she was adamant that if they both died, the money would go to each child when they graduated from college or at age 30. Jon wanted to say "what if they want to be a mechanic" (and I could hear, .. or what if they want to be like ME and throw away going to college and just bum around Europe and snowboard and party? Of course once they are divorced, I wonder if he'll write a will that even includes his kids, but if he does and if he had money to leave them, I suppose he can have no restrictions on that.

I recognize in Kate what I saw in my Dad. After a hard childhood, he made it through school and was a CPA and ended up supporting three generations and he went to great lengths to make sure my brother and I experienced many things he didn't and had more opportunities. Sometimes along the way he forgot to make it fun, but his heart just wanted the best for us. I think Kate is driven like that.

Jon came from money and while he criticizes his alcoholic dad, he could easily head in that direction and has even said it worries him (but not enough to stop drinking so it seems) and he seems to feel entitled to live the slacker life.. I mean he was stuck being responsible for a decade! Imagine that! Poor sweet guy

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Wait what?! Jon's dad is an alcoholic?! Oh wow, he really better slow down with the drinking then or start seriously examining himself on that to make sure he doesn't go down the same path. I didn't know that about his dad, it makes me genuinely feel a little concerned for him. Is his father still alive?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Seamonkey, that was a very insightful post. I find myself sometimes having a hard time relaxing and just enjoying the stuff that I am working so hard to be able to let my daughter experience too. It is a fine balancing act!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I'm wondering? Don't you suppose the TLC crew have signed non-declosures and would be subject to lawsuit should they ever tell what goes on while they're on duty with Kate?

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Hailey stands by her man. The red dots are not the 'b' word, it's the 'wh' word. I tried pasting the link but it's doing something weird; however, it's on people.com.

Jon Gosselin's Girlfriend Says He Throws 'Mantrums'

Jon Gosselin has more relationship drama on his hands.

Hailey Glassman says her reality star boyfriend is emotionally abusive – and she's sick of it. "He'll call me and take his anger out on me," Glassman, 22, says in a two-part interview scheduled to air on The Insider beginning Thursday. "He has 'mantrums.' I shouldn't have to put up with being emotionally abused. I cry and say, 'Why are you so mean to me?' "

But she may not get a straight answer. "Sometimes he has trouble with the truth," she says, "and he will dance and dance around his lies. He's like Jekyll and Hyde. But I still love him."

Ever since she started dating Gosselin, Glassman says her life has changed – and not necessarily for the better. "I met Jon in a bubble," she says. "I'd never seen the show. I had no idea." After their trip to France in July, she says she's faced harsh criticism. "People judge me before they meet me. I get threats everyday. I get called a home wrecker and a fat . People will stare or point. It gets worse everyday."

She admits their relationship is "not normal," but Glassman says she can't imagine leaving Gosselin. "I don't want to leave him all alone," she says. "At the end of the day, I love him but I dislike him at times. When I love someone I would never hurt them."


Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
Why would she give an interview like that if she truly loved him? It certainly doesn't make him look good.

I really don't understand some people!

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Good lord, she(Hailey)is not even fully baked yet. Hope her parents sit her down and explain that this right now is the best it gets. If that is an honest representation of the relationship now, in the honeymoon - falling in love period then it will only go downhill in the future. But then she did get a boob job and a new car out of the deal. {sigh}

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Well even she admits that he lies, and she's his girlfriend. Call a spade a spade, I guess. This is why I don't believe much of what Jon says and don't understand why some people do; I never take what he says as the stone cold truth. He lies far too much and gets caught in his lies often, even his girlfriend admits that.

However, I'm sure she'll probably say many nice things about him in the Insider interview, this article probably just selectively chose this part to make it look negative.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Ahnicka, I didn't know Jon's dad was an alcoholic. In one or two of the specials or in early eps., a little footage was shown of Jon's dad. (It could have been J&K's home videos of him with the twins. I can't remember.) In one ep., J said that of all 4 grandparents, he was the only one that was actively involved in their lives. He (and Kate) didn't give a reason for Kate's parents, that I remember. They may have said something vague like that Kate's parents didn't want to be on camera. I really don't remember for sure. J said his mom didn't choose to spend her time being actively involved with them or was busy doing other things and busy with her new husband or something like that. This was on a Q&A show in an earlier season. J&K did mention Kate's parents once or twice when they talked about K being in the hospital when preg. with the sextuplets. Kate's parents took care of the twins at that time.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Jon Gosselin's Girlfriend Says He Throws 'Mantrums'
..... Sometimes he has trouble with the truth," she says,


i think that is very telling.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
He has 'mantrums.' I shouldn't have to put up with being emotionally abused. I cry and say, 'Why are you so mean to me?' "

But she may not get a straight answer. "Sometimes he has trouble with the truth," she says, "and he will dance and dance around his lies. He's like Jekyll and Hyde.


I wonder how much of this type of thing Kate...and the children....had to put up with?

When I love someone I would never hurt them."

Truly a shame that Jon doesn't feel the same way.




Why would she give an interview like that if she truly loved him? It certainly doesn't make him look good.

Could it be that very same thing that folks take Kate to task for? Money.




If Hailey...Jon's loving girlfriend...is publicly stating that he is less than truthful, then why should anyone believe a thing Jon says?

The man is digging himself into a hole he may never be able to crawl out of.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Run, Hailey, run!

Jenjackso
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02-10-2009

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jenjackso a private message Print Post    
Isn't she the tummy tuck doc's daughter? She'd never seen the show? She met him in a bubble? She should have to be emotionally abused?

Why on earth is she staying in an abusive relationship? So many questions about this "poor" girl who hasn't been taught how to respect herself.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
TMZ = Hailey talks about Jon

TMZ has a bit more of that interview, found it interesting that she says:

"He's driven a fork between my family and I. My parents want me to be a normal 22 year old. It's not a normal relationship. I love him, but as for my family and I, he needs to regain our trust. He lied to my mother."

Gee Jon, I thought driving wedges btn family members was a bad thing? LOL I know it's not exactly the same situation (not that we know the original story anyway) but isn't it ironic?

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Maybe that's why he bought her the car, to keep her happy and with him? To look good to her parents? Interesting.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
"He's driven a fork between my family and I. My parents want me to be a normal 22 year old. It's not a normal relationship. I love him, but as for my family and I, he needs to regain our trust. He lied to my mother."

hmmm...he's drving wedges between family members and lied....thought that only kate did that.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 2:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Jon's father is dead, I believe and I'm trying to remember where I read the part where Jon said he did worry that he could be alcoholic like his dad.

Ah, guess it was in the Chris Cuomo interview where he also said he "despised" Kate and loved Hailey more (he has since sort of retracted the "despised" part)

Anyway there was this, not a quote, from an article about that interview


quote:

To his credit, Cuomo quietly but persistently tried to point out to Jon, again and again, where he may be going off the rails. But what can you do with a guy who tells you one moment he's been drinking a lot, and in the next breath says, "My father was an alcoholic," that his grandfather was an alcoholic, and he knows he doesn't want to inherit the disease?




http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/09/jon_gosselin_chris_cuomo_abc_f.html

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I think those of us who pray should say a few for Jon. All those sweet children don't need their daddy to completely derail of fall apart to the point of desperation.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
From what the girlfriend is saying about Jon and her family, I wonder if Jon wasn't carrying tales between Kate and the friends and family who are no longer around. This happens in families. My mother was a pro at driving wedges between her sisters so that she was the only one who spoke to all of them and the others had problems with each other.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
After reading that no wonder Kate has problems with him.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Wow....if half of what Hailey is quoted as saying really came out of her mouth....girl needs to run for the hills!