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Snoopsmom
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02-19-2003

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Snoopsmom a private message Print Post    
I haven't watched this show since the kids were babies and toddlers, but caught this story.
I just don't buy that a 32 year old married father of 8 has "friends" that are all single and in their 20's. They would have nothing in common to establish a friendship. Makes me suspicious.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 2:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
That part of it sticks with me as well Naja. My husband has a very close female friend but I certainly know her just as well or almost as well. They socialize during the work week on their own but in the evenings or weekends hubby wouldn't leave to go hang out with her without me and her husband. Another part that... sticks, is the amount of time he seems to spend socializing for a man with eight children. Neither of these things are evidence of an affair of course but certainly of bad judgement which he himself admits. The third sticky point is that pointless but interesting video of Jon leaving her home at 7 in the morning. Does not show anything incriminating but what possible reason would he have to be there at that time?

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Who's watching the kid's while he's out late with friends and Kate is out of town? I agree, where there's smoke.... I'm sure this 20-something girl is not one of Kate's friends. Not someone they would hang out with as a couple. And agreed -- why would he be hanging out with young single people. When you're a couple with kids you usually hang out with other parents, other couples, unless you were friends pre-marriage and pre-kids.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
Kate calls Jon irresponsible and showing bad judgement...and that's for the public! I can just imagine what she is saying to him in private. Somehow she always seems to put him down and emasculate him over and over again on the show with her little cutting remarks. He just found some hot young chick who says he's the best thing since sliced bread. It's all too tragic because of the kids but it's an old old story!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I believe Jon said he showed bad judgement in one of the earlier rebuttals. And so what if Kate said it, he DID show bad judgement and was irresponsible. For heavens sake, IF he did cheat, it's all on him. Nobody holds a gun to someone else and makes them cheat.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 4:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I think I would have said something to the effect that there had been some misunderstandings and wrong choices made. Men like wrong choices better that bad judgement. Don't ask me why that's just what DH says. LOL. And god forbid if I said anything like that to him in public or he to me...but just wait til we are alone and then the fur flies. We have been married for 53 years so that has worked for us.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
That latest article says that the"other" woman's brother wants to help his sister and then he says..."He also adds, "A lot of the time, it was pretty, um, gross listening to her, you know, um — how do I say this? The walls are thin. Let’s just say that. I mean, no one wants to hear his sister having sex, let alone with a married dude who's, like, almost twice her age and who has eight kids and a maybe-crazy wife. Ick. Nast."

Oh yeah, real helpful to his sister.

Whether or not Jon has cheated on Kate, I feel very badly for Kate and the kids right now and if Jon hasn't cheated on her I feel a little bad for him too.

I do think a married man of Jon's age ... well, hanging out late at night in bars with a 23 yr. old woman does show bad judgment. If they were closer in age and had known each other for years, and she were friends with Kate, I would think differently of Jon. Even if he has been faithful to Kate, I agree with Kate that he has been irresponsible and shown bad judgment in this situation. Not that she is perfect, but two wrongs don't make a right and just because she doesn't treat him appropriately sometimes (in my mind) doesn't excuse (in my mind) Jon's behavior even if what he says is true and he hasn't cheated on Kate. And...I do think Jon should be held to a higher standard than a man who is not on tv. And that is what I think.

I was hoping that by moving onto that huge property that they could live like the Roloffs and the kids could just grow up with lots of space to run and explore and they would all stay pretty down to earth like the Roloffs. Now they are even on Comcast's home page and magazine covers.

Is US a tabloid?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
well, i am not as evolved as you, granny, and only 25 years under my belt but if my husband should ever cheat, I would not be kind and considerate of his feelings as I told him how I felt! LOL

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
US would not consider themselves a tabloid. I think of them as a gossip magazine. They will report gossip for sure, but don't seem to make up blatant lies like a tabloid.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
LOL Texannie...mine would never dare come home if he cheated. I always told him that if we ever got a divorce he had to take all three kids.

I was trying to say that you do have to show respect for one another...even if you want to kill them. Remember men are just little boys inside who will act out if they feel they are being mistreated. I don't think that Kate has shown respect for Jon...that doesn't excuse him...but it does make a reason for him in his own mind!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL..i have joked that the reason we are still together is neither of us wants sole custody!
(i have sure Jon and Kate have thougth of that too.)
i think one can always find a 'rational' excuse for their bad behavior.

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
My goodness I am watching Extra and they even have a video of Jon leaving her house early in the morning. I do not know how Jon & Kate are going to get thru this intact. Kate is a very proud woman.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I do feel for Kate. She does not deserve this. Not one tiny bit.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
This is getting major, major coverage. This may be tough to overcome

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
SG, it might just be *proud* that helps the marriage. Kate doesn't strike me as the type to admit failure, especially publically. I can see her working overtime.... oh Lord just had a thought..... 2nd half of next season will be their marriage counselling sessions. Seriously though, I don't think Kate will be the impediment to working through this, but Jon's method of dealing with anything stressfull just might be.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 06, 2009 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Morality aside it was very silly of Jon to think he could get away with something like this. Then again, who took all these videos, pictures and stuff. Someone got him big time.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 3:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
I want to say something. I will be the first to say,I have for a very very long time considered Kate an overbearing,bossy,nagging shrew. But I am hurting for her.I only have 2 children,and I don't know what I would do if I were in this situation. I have always held Jon to a high esteem,but that is over. I cannot look at him the same.I just deplore cheating of any kind.And regardless of "poor judgement" I would probably have a Lorena Bobbit reenactment on my hands if this ever happened to me. So,Kate,My words are withdrawn and my prayers go out to you and the little ones. As for Jon, Shame,Shame,Shame on you.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Kate is to be on the Today show - damage control - and promotion of their May start of new season. I have nothing to say - but I still go back to the beginning of those that she cut out of their lives, I hope that love and peace can overcome hostility - for the sake of the kids. and I think their should be limits on filming children (as there are in tv shows and movies) I think the same rules should apply.

Amchess
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08-27-2002

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 5:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Amchess a private message Print Post    
I agree with Lori. I can remember Jon once saying how bad she made him feel because she talked to him like he was a dog in front of other people. I just wondered how he could take it over and over and over. Evidently he couldn't, but I think he chose the wrong road.

Lotsofkids
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08-11-2007

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lotsofkids a private message Print Post    
Here's the latest story from US magazine. Not sure if anyone else posted it..

Jon & Kate Mom: "There's Really Never Any Going Back"
Us Magazine - May 6, 2009 9:52 PM PDT
celebs:
Rachael Ray
topics:
Kids


Amy Sussman/WireImage for Discovery Communications
Us Magazine
One week after Us Weekly first broke the news that Jon & Kate Plus 8 dad Jon Gosselin was caught with another woman, his wife, Kate Gosselin, opens up about her husband.

"It's one of those things that we're just handling privately," Kate said on Wednesday's taping of The Rachael Ray Show. "We're just taking it one step at a time and I'm trying to walk through it."
She added: "The focus remains on our kids. It has always been there and will continue to be there. One day at a time, like we've always done. One hour at a time, one minute at a time, and my life's been like that."

Her interview with Rachael Ray -- which will air on Tuesday -- came the same day Us Weekly's current issue (on newsstands now) revealed that five people close to the situation confirmed that Jon, 32, has been having an affair with third-grade school teacher Deanna Hummel."It's definitely another learning experience," Kate said about the recent media attention. "I look at life through the eyes of my kids in that I've always said life experiences... I feel like you can learn something from every situation and I am absolutely learning a lot from this."

After Jon and Deanna met in mid-January at Chill Lounge in Reading, Pennsylvania (they sent each other $3 shots), Deanna's brother Jason Hummel told Us that Jon -- who has twins, 8, and sextuplets, 5 -- began relentlessly pursuing his sister. By mid-February, he was coming over to their Reading house. (At the Hummel house, Jason says Deanna and Jon would "pretty much stay locked away like two teenagers. It was weird. He's a grown man.")

Kate said that she didn't see it coming.

"Certainly none of this could have been predicted," she said. "Now going into our fifth season, we have stepped back and realized that it is part of this process, and I always say there's really never any going back. We just need to go forward. That is my new saying -- just keep on marching through this. Just doing what we need to."

Instead of focusing on the news -- which includes Jon and Deanna spending time together while Kate was traveling in late April -- of her husband's three-month long affair, she said she is putting her attention on her eight children."I know that Im continuing on as I am the best mom I know how to be and that's really where my focus is," Kate said. "I really try not to let any of that stuff that comes with it get to me."

As for comments that Kate is combative (she once chastised her husband for breathing on their TLC reality show), she made no apologies.

"Just to put it out there, I am who I am," she said. "I do not care how you see me. Call me crazy, but it's out there because I am not perfect and I will never boast that I'm perfect. Everyone makes mistakes."

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I really have to say that I am perturbed by the people laying ANY of the blame for an affair on the woman. For years now we have seen Jon play the victim on TV, he cops out of responsibility, never stands up for himself and that way he is never the bad guy. Kate shoulders all the responsibility and when stuff goes wrong, all the blame and Jon gets to sit back and be the sympathetic hard-done-by character. Even with this affair (if true), he said (on the finale) he wasn't happy being a public figure, Kate says she is... so instead of being an adult he lets Kate have her way and then acts out by hanging out in bars drinking with people years younger. Its childish and irresponsible. I don't like Kate but the two of them together have worked out the rules for their relationship and the only person responsible for Jon's behavior is Jon. If Jon thinks Kate is an unbearable b*&$% then his choice is to work with her to fix it or leave. If this was physical abuse, would anyone be saying that Kate *asked* for it?

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 6:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Rissa, other than I do like Kate. The interview was sad, IMO. Kate may say they are weathering it, but it's easy to see how much it has affected her. Only one smile that I saw.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 7:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
If these allegations are true there is enough blame to go around for all.

It's hard enough to keep a marriage happy and romantic with just one child let alone 8. That responsibility is simply with the couple , both people.

Both have abandoned the marriage in a way. Kate by becoming infatuated with being a reality star and the perks that go along with it and by treating Jon either as a child or the hired help. And Jon for allowing it to happen.

Jon has done a lot of the childcare and I feel more than an equal share of parenting, gave up his job (willingly) and sometimes that's how it goes. Jon has been there for Kate at every turn but we've never seen Kate "be there" for Jon.

Even outsiders see Kate as mean the latest example was the green guy in stalling the solar panels. The crew obviously had sympathy for Jon after being with Kate just that short bit of time.

I'm not saying being married to a woman that doesn't treat you like a lover and friend is grounds to have flings but it explains the desire to find it elsewhere.

I got the feeling Kate is more sad about how this might make her family look rather than having a wake up call that her marriage may be in trouble.

I understand she had an obligation to promote her book this week...it was unfortunate the timing of these rumors. I wouldn't be surprised if Jon refused to go on Today simply because he's done with cameras and what they have done to the family and he couldn't pretend any more.

I wonder after all that has happened if now Kate will agree with Jon that it's time to close the public window on their lives and move on without the cameras.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
In my opinion, there is NOTHING that justifies infidelity.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, May 07, 2009 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Sure there isn't justification, I agree but we can gleam a bit why someone goes that route, not saying that Jon did, I have no clue.

And often infidelity is a by product of an ailing marriage, not a justification just reality.

In a perfect world the unhappy spouse goes to the other and they work the relationship. Who knows if Jon did that only to be reprimanded???? We don't know.

Infidelity is a selfish act that can, not always, be the end of the marriage.