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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:11 am
About possible reasons for a deposition from Kate Major: I thought I read that, Jon told her to quit her job to manage his career. Things like keeping his appointment book, brain-storming for future projects, contract negotiations and such. At one point I thought KM might like to sue Jon herself. But she probably doesn't have convincing evidence. Wonder why TLC thinks her words would be useful to them?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:25 am
I think it goes back to any breach of his TLC contract and if Kate, in her position at Star Magazine, caused him to be paid, then that would be of concern for TLC if it breached his contract. I doubt if they could give a rip about his lies to her or her instant connection that drove her to deep six whatever career she had going at the time.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 12:31 pm
I heard Jon say on TV < the show with Lara Spencer> last night that his career was now in TV. I want his 15 minutes of fame up NOW.He is good for absolutely nothing. Those poor little cute kids with the wacko parents. Seems to me that some people should not be parents.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 1:07 pm
I'm happy to hear both Mr and Mrs Gosselin will be spending Christmas with the children. I'll be happier to hear they will both be spending Christmas with the children and without cameras.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 4:56 pm
Tishala - you have GOT to be kidding! Miss holiday photo ops like that? No freaking way!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 6:40 pm
LOL That was my dad's biggest day of the year for his 8mm movie camera with the hot/bright lights.. and Easter, Thanksgiving, summer vacations... Kind of "Pop" arazz0?
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 8:23 pm
Gosselin to TLC: I'm 'Unsophisticated' Jon Gosselin has fired back at TLC ... firing back at the network that is trying to get an injunction prohibiting him from making dough on shows other than TLC. Gosselin wants the contract he made with TLC declared invalid on grounds it's unconscionable--translation: Jon had no lawyer or manager when he sat down with TLC and inked the deal. The best part -- Gosselin refers to himself as "an unsophisticated father of eight." He claims the deal was so bad ... he and his family only pulled in $2,000 an episode at the beginning. That's $200 a head. Gosselin also claims TLC violated child labor laws. Gosselin claims if TLC gets the injunction he'll be "unable to earn a living as a television personality, and therefore be precluded from supporting his eight children, whereas Plaintiff (TLC) currently has its show on 'indefinite hiatus.'' What Jon didn't say in his legal response -- how he'll deal with TLC's claim that he derailed the show by mounting what the network believes is a phony objection. If a judge buys TLC's claim it could cost Jon millions in damages. And TLC wants Jon to cough up all the loot he made by selling his life to all the shows and websites over the last few months. [TMZ]
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Wednesday, November 11, 2009 - 11:49 pm
I'm not really into legal speak, but I found this an interesting read. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/GosselinAffidavit.pdf
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 5:07 am
Jon is hooped. LOL I love that AFTER he was sued he went ahead and pursued ANOTHER paid gig. Talk about a slow learner. At the heart of it we have Jon's defense apparently being that he was not smart enough to understand what he was signing and he should have been represented by an attorney. But it turns out he not only had an attorney representing him but a manager as well and not just for the original signing but four additional negotiations and/or amendments? No wonder his attorneys keep quitting on him. He might be able to claim the original contract was gobbly-gook but certainly this filing is straight forward and easy to read/understand and Jon still went ahead and tried to book other gigs after he rec'd it. Hooped.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 3:33 pm
I think they intentionally made it easy to read so that he could understand it. He's reaching though. His response to this was VERY hard to read. I'll try to find it again and post the link.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 5:14 pm
Here it is... http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/TLC-Jon%20Gosselin%20suit%20defendants%20response%20pgs%201-26.pdf
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 7:14 pm
It's just giving me a headache. Although I did enjoy the part where they quote case-law from 1875.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 8:11 pm
All I can say is if TLC sues him the money should come out of their joint account. Other wise that would not be fair at all. No one can tell me that Kate is not hiding big time bucks someplace. She cries poor but look at the cloths she wears and the money it takes to get her hair done and nails, and her housekeepers and such. I do recall, TLC telling them anytime they wanted to stop, they could, I guess that only pertained to Kate as Jon never had any real say in their relationship.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:45 pm
Jon breaches his contract and Kate should be held liable? Absolutely NOT. If Kate is hiding money, and there is no proof of that, then that is between her and Jon. But since Jon breached his contract AFTER their separation, Kate should in no way be liable for his choices. Jon is not being sued for simply stopping filming. As that affidavit states, Jon was under an exclusive contract that required that he get approval for all interviews and appearances and that he not speak out against TLC or the production company. He violated that portion of the contract. He now may have to pay for the unwise decision to ignore his contract. That's on him, not Kate.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:46 pm
Maybe they could stop anytime, if that was in their contract, but maybe it is also in their contract that they could not be on other tv shows without TLCs permission and if they were, it would be breaching their contract. I think if Kate didn't breach but Jon did, any money he owes if he loses a lawsuit should come out of his money not their joint money.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:52 pm
Here in CA, there are very serious legal consequences if a spouse going through a divorce does not fully disclose every single financial thing and gets caught hiding something. I would imagine most states would be similar, but I don't know PA law. I seriously doubt Kate would jeopardize herself by doing something illegal. (if it is illegal to hide assets in PA). I'm sure she is getting very good legal advice. I doubt that would include hiding assets.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 10:59 pm
I also don't think one can look at another's clothes and know they have lots of money. My grandmother was very very poor and she dressed very nicely. Her clothes looked expensive and were probably when they were first sold. I do think Kate has lots of money and probably does not buy at thrift shops or accept previously worn clothes from friends etc. as my grandmother did. If I had 8 kids and could afford a housekeeper, I would. That would give me more time to spend with my kids. If Jon had no real say in their relationship, that was at least partially his choice. I never spent any time with J or K so I really would not know. I do know what I saw on tv and I did see him say and do things that Kate did not want him to do...or not do things Kate did want him to do.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, November 12, 2009 - 11:50 pm
Jon was and is a grown man, legally, and no matter how pitifully his attorney tries to portray him, he had free will and he signed contracts. Remmber this same attorney defended the Son of Sam.. bet he tried the poor pitiful defense there.. uh.. like the Labrador told him when to kill.. as I recall. Didn't work, as I recall. Father and son, attorney and "manager".. just want to get their hands on as much money as possible and hope to pull in a jackpot from TLC, Kate and yes, Jon.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:57 am
I don't understand, how would that not be fair? If Jon is the one breaching his contract, why would it not be Jon who has to suffer the consequences? What does that have to do with Kate? If Kate is hiding money, then that's a completely seperate issue between Jon & Kate, not having anything to do with TLC & what they're sewing Jon for. I don't get why "hiding money," if that is even true, would that mean TLC needs to take Jon's screw-up paybackmoney from the joint account if J & K are seperate & the breaching behavior comes from Jon & not Kate. How is it fair to penalize Kate when it's Jon who broke his contract? How is it that the desire to stop anytime only applied to Kate? Jon was allowed exactly that, to stop doing the show & still get paid for doing virtually nothing, but he refused that offer because of his own personal agenda...but TLC did offer & permitted him to stop, he just wanted things done his way despite the contract he signed. Kate gets her nails & hair done & wears decent clothes, is that supposed to be a bad thing? Let's compare the price of her hair & nails to the price of Jon's bachelor pad in a state different from where his kids reside, cost of his new car that doesn't seat his kids, the price he paid for Hailey's new car, & whatever else he's frivolously spent enormous amounts of money on that didn't go toward his kids in the first place, but yet wants to claim TLC isn't allowing him to make money to support his children. Umm well Jon, it sure doesn't seem like your money was going to his kids no way. He's so ridiculous! He needs to stop listening to his sleazy lawyer who's out for greed himself.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 4:45 am
Jon believing Kate is hiding money (which I agree has nothing to do with this lawsuit) seems to revolve around Jon thinking Kate got a million dollar advance for that latest book. I wonder if that is coming from his attorney father/manager son team because as far as I know, it just wouldn't happen. The number of authors who are raking in massive moola can be counted on a couple hands and Kate Gosselin wouldn't be in that group. I hope to read that Jon has dumped those two soon, for his sake!!
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 7:36 am
They strike me as the sort of attorneys who throw everything including the kitchen sink at the wall just to see if something will stick. I'm thinking sleezeball is too generous a term for that type of lawyer.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 8:20 am
I'm a bad mother. I got a pedicure last week.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 9:14 am
Ahnika...that is a great comparison. Jon's trips, fine dining, cars, fancy clothing vs. Kate's clothing, hair styling and manicures. hmmmmmm. I'll have to think on that one for a while to see how it all adds up.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 9:53 am
Thanks Bee. It just nowhere near compares. Women who don't make alot of money get their hair and nails done, and wear decent clothes, but I can't say they're buying expensive new swanky bachelorette pads, new cars for themselves and significant other. It just not even in the same ballpark. They strike me as the sort of attorneys who throw everything including the kitchen sink at the wall just to see if something will stick. I agree, that's exactly how I view Jon's lawyer and manager team. I really think they're looking out for themselves in how best to milk Jon for large sums of money when trying to win money for him; therefore, trying every maneuver they can and hoping something sticks. Dumb move though to shut the show down when his contract prevents him from other avenues. I wonder if the lawyer thought of that beforehand and just figured they'd take a chance or knew they'd win, or if they never thought this would happen. Seems like a risky thing to do for a lawyer, even for a sleazy one.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:11 pm
For today's reading pleasure, I give you Jon's line answer and counterclaim. http://www.radaronline.com/sites/default/files/JonGosselinVerification.pdf
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