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Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
LOL!

I don't think Kate had any idea the sh** storm she stirred up with Jon. I really think she thought she could continue to lead him around and he'd follow. Jon, the marriage is over, but you're going to show up for filming, act like things are great, do your job... you can live in the apartment over the garage... you'll watch the kids when I'm out of town... it will all be perfect and discreet and no one will know we aren't happily married.

But Jon turned into the spoiled teen who said "like heck!" and proved that he could go out, party hard, find a woman who would fall all over him, and do whatever he wanted except show up for filming and put on the facade.

You just know she is spitting mad about the whole thing.

Cinnamongirl
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01-10-2001

Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 9:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cinnamongirl a private message Print Post    
Why hasn't Kate been made to catch up on her monthly payments of $7,500?

And you know she hasn't paid?? Where is this info coming from?

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Thursday, October 22, 2009 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
LOL Onlyhuman...Kate cast an evil spell over Jon and that's why he can't behave like an adult!

I imagine Kate is angry and very very sad. To see the man she chose to have children with, behaving like a child and not being a good father to those children must make her very sad. I don't understand the lack of compasion being shown. She is truly a single parent and that's not easy and the kids no longer have a father. The whole situation is very sad.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Perhaps Kate's way of paying the 7500 into the account was paying the bills that were supposed to be paid out of that account.

There is never any clear line of right or wrong in a divorce...it takes two people to make a marriage and two people to break it. I hope for both of their sakes and their children's sakes that this is soon behind them. TV show or no TV show, they need closure and to be able to move forward with their lives. What a sad and ugly interlude in the life of a family that started out with so much hope and joy.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Those kids DO still have a father. He took them to see his relatives recently. We've seen no indication he intends to abandon them and never see them again. I do hope Kate doesn't try to make seeing the kids as difficult as possible for him. I think she's a spiteful person based on her inability to keep other long term relationships with friends and family and I wouldn't put it past her to put every road block in his way in hopes he'll give up.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 8:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I also think it is a bit much to say the kids don't have a father.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Jon certainly is a flawed person, aren't we all, but I don't think anyone can question that fact that he is the kids dad. Nothing has indicated he plans on abandoning the kids. Where did that rumor come from?

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Onlyhuman, I hope you are joking...

Even if it is true, that does not give him a license for some of his stunts.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Gotta ask, since the kids are in PA... why did Jon get a apartment in NY?

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
He said because he has business and contacts in NY.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Jon can get to the kids from anywhere on his days. That's not a problem. It's not like Kate gives up her time with the kids for him to see them, at least not yet. There haven't been any reports that he's missed days. Even if he lived next door do you think Kate would allow him to see the kids on days he doesn't have custody??

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
I do hope Kate doesn't try to make seeing the kids as difficult as possible for him. I think she's a spiteful person based on her inability to keep other long term relationships with friends and family and I wouldn't put it past her to put every road block in his way in hopes he'll give up.


So if Jon finds his New York life more interesting than his kids, if Jon spends a lot of his "kid time" on his cell phone with his real friends, if Jon spends his time in PA at the fence talking to the paps... it's because Kate won't let him see his kids???? He has already shown that he finds his children less exciting than his other life. If he has less time with them, it's his choice (or the judges choice) not Kate's.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
MamaB, I was just about to say that I don't know if he's missed any days, but when he is with his children he's always distracted by other things with talking to the paps, on the cell phone, riding that thing on his lawn, etc.; all things during his kid time (& kids bday party) that he could be spending with...uhh, I dunno...say maybe his kids.

However MamaB I just read what you said and you beat me to it! LOL

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Ahnicka, thats what agents & managers are for. He should be living closer to his kids.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Let's be fair here. The pics we see of him on his cell or talking to the fence people are not a significant amount of time. We don't see pics of what Kate does behind the walls. I'm sure she makes and receives calls when she's with the kids. Who knows she can lock herself away while the nannies tend to the kids. I'm sure she's not with the kids 100% of the time, are any parents. Next we'll hear how bad of a father Jon is because he spends more time than Kate using the bathroom and how that makes him less of a parent than Kate.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Lil, it would be easier to parent a child if you are in the same state/city.... Makes it easier to go to teacher conferences etc.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33450470/ns/entertainment-celebrities/

Jon returned the money

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
And you know she hasn't paid?? Where is this info coming from?

It came out after she accused Jon of leaving her and her children destitute because he took money out of the other account. I still don't understand why Kate had access to 'that' account just to pay bills, when supposedly there is another account for the bills they were each supposed to put in $7,500 monthly. Jon stated Kate hadn't been putting the money in for quite awhile.

Roxip, you could be correct that she was paying bills, but why not put in the $7,500 to show the court and pay from that? I just feel if Jon weren't putting his $7,500 in monthly, Kate would be on some show letting everyone know. It will be better once they get divorced and these things are handled by the courts. It just seems that Jon is always the bad guy and Kate is the good one.

As far as spending time with the children, Kate's had a pretty hectic schedule the last few months. I'm sure she'd say she had to do it to feed her children, but they need their mother home with them right now.

She's recently said the children have been acting out. Well..yeah..that's to be expected with everything going on. I guess I'm wondering why she doesn't postpone some of these trips for a few months until things are more settled for the children.

Kate's Travel Schedule:
October 2, 2008 - Birmingham Women's Show (Birmingham, AL)
October 11, 2008 - Southern Orlando Women's Show (Orlando, FL)
October 19, 2008 - First Assembly of God (PA)
November 2, 2008 - Central Assembly of God (Bossier City, LA)
November 14 & 15, 2008 - Women of Purpose Conference (PA
}

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
We hear of Kate getting angry and telling Jon he was no longer invited over for the birthday, or that he'd just get 2 hours or whatever it was. That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. That's the kind of thing that I can see her pulling over and over to frustrate Jon in hopes that he'll give up.

We don't see Kate out in the yard yapping with the paps. Doesn't mean she's spending quality time with the kids! LOL. Remember, she's a single woe-is-me mom now. She's got to do all that laundry, sort all those clothes, pack all those lunches. I'm sure she's shooing the kids away as they are holed up in the house so she can get her chores done and pick our her next evening gown for her next appearance.

At this point I don't see either of them as a model for good parenting.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I would imagine she has hired to help with the kids.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
I agree Kittyab, I was just stating what Jon said.

I'd say a significant portion of time is spent by Jon talking to the paps at the gate, as well as riding that thing he rides around the lawn, time at the bar, and "overnighting" with babysitter's. Don't know how long he spends on the phone, but it's not unrealistic to believe calls sometimes take up a significant amount of time, but not always.

Everyone takes calls so not much of a big deal; however, the time Jon spends at the gate with the paps is really unnecessary, serves no purpose and is in no way productive for his children, so there's really no reason to do it with his kid time. He's using his precious kid time for nonsense, using a vice he claims to despise. Nor is riding that thing necessary unless ALL the kids are napping and therefore he has free time.

I would love to say let's be fair, but I don't see it happening for Kate either. People blame Kate for Jon's lying and boneheaded actions when he's responsible for his own actions, which doesn't make sense and is far from fair. How do you blame someone else for the actions of another; it's the Jon syndrome, he does it and his supporters do it...blame Kate. He plays the victim all the time and blames Kate for everything as do some people here, which I think Onlyhuman was trying to illustrate the absurdity of it in that 10/22/09 7:16 pm post.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Kitty, LOL. Teacher conferences are usually scheduled. He can always drive in for those he's not that terribly far away. It would be completely different and I could see it being a good idea to live close if Jon and Kate had a relationship that allowed both parents access to the kids whenever they wanted. But right now there is a very strict schedule as to when each parent can spend time with the kids.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
If Jon truly feels those kids are his 1st priortiy, he would had gotten a place to stay in PA near them. How can he go to little league games in NY?

Sorry you can not blame Kate for Jon'isms

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Do you really think if they had a schedule/relationship that allowed both parents access to the kids whenever they wanted, that Jon would not have still chosen to reside in NY? In all honesty, do you really think he would have chosen to remain in PA?

Isn't Hailey from New York, is that where she already resided prior to Jon?

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, October 23, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Sorry you can not blame Kate for Jon'isms

Exactly!!