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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 9:47 am
Just finished watching The View (with Kate as guest co-host). Obviously out of her element but she didn't embarrass herself which is more then you can say for the regular hosts most days. She just refuses to discuss her divorce at all which is absolutely the right thing to do and is obviously working for her public-opinion-wise.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 9:49 am
Good for her! How did the View 'ladies' treat her?
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 9:58 am
It was a fairly subdued hour Tex. They all seemed off their game. They weren't NOT friendly to Kate but there didn't seem to be any real connection either but at the same time they also didn't seem to be connecting with each other. Hot topics were the celeb blow-ups over the weekend (Williams - tennis, Kanye - MTV awards, etc) and that poor African runner (hermaphrodite)... nothing anyone would/could disagree with so no real conversation. Guests were Victoria Beckham who was friendly was a bit odd (imo) and hard to find common ground with and Dr. Oz who tends to steamroll through any conversation.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:23 am
From ETONLINE: Reality star Kate Gosselin co-hosted "The View" Monday morning and said she will continue taking the "high road" when it comes to dealing with her divorce from Jon Gosselin. Sherri Shepherd asked the "Jon & Kate Plus 8" mom about Jon's girlfriend Hailey Glassman, saying, "How do you handle him bringing that girl around your children?" Kate said in response, "I'm not going to lie. It's difficult. This is all difficult." "The truth is for the sake of my children, I am going to take the high road because it's the only road for me," she tells "The View" ladies. "It is not easy. I melted down over the weekend in the privacy of my own home. I melted down." Kate's estranged husband was spotted at a VMA after party on Sunday night. My personal comment: Looks like our boy is partying hardy.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:30 am
Kate has stated more than once that she has cried and now she says she 'melted down.' Are the children able to see this? If so, how will it affect their relationship with their father? I'm sure this is all difficult for her; however, when you tell someone it's over, you have to be able to deal with what happens next. It's not always pretty or easy. I still don't understand if she is so tired of the paparazzi, media, etc., why she just doesn't stay home and off the tv?
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:42 am
Cricket...Kate addressed that this morning. She said that when she first started the show, they had watched TLC and thought it would be a cute little show, a way to document their lives. Never dreamed it would blow up like it has. Now, there is no escaping it. It wouldn't matter if they stopped appearing, or doing the show, because they would still be followed. She said she must make money and has the opportunity to do so. I actually agree with her. Fame is a funny thing. And people will follow you, even when you have stepped out of the limelight. It's too late to go back. They must simply continue to go forward. As for Kate's appearance on The View, perhaps if Behar hadn't interupted Kate every time she tried to speak, Kate would have had more to say.
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Mysti
Member
09-28-2005
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 12:11 pm
I think Kate is doing a great job of handlng herself during this difficult time. I think it's very appropriate to take the high road and not publicly reveal her feelings about Jon & his 'escapades' for the sake of the kids. It must be very difficult because in her situation I would probably feel like telling the whole world what I thought about his behavior. They will already have to deal with all the gossip stories of their dad partying like a frat boy ~ how much sadder and more difficult would it be for the kids if their mom was talking about her hurt or angry feelings with the media? As far as melting down in front of the kids, I would think that every once in awhile it's going to happen and I think if you explain to the kids in age appropriate language why you are so sad it is not a bad thing. I would think it is worse for them to think their mom didn't have any feelings at all.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 12:31 pm
And if she melted down she might have done it in the privacy of her own bedroom and not necessarily in front of the kids. But kids actually deal with real emotions fairly well...it is the fake ones that they have problems understanding.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 12:48 pm
I agree that Kate is handling herself quite well in this difficult situation, given that she wants to keep up her public appearances. However, I do think that if Kate and Jon wanted to go private, the tabloids would drop them like a rock. They just aren't that interesting.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 1:39 pm
Article from Buddytv: Jon and Kate Plus 8: Jon Takes Hailey to Pennsylvania Home? Uh-Oh She isn't even part of the television show, but Hailey Glassman just got dragged into the media spotlight thanks to Jon Gosselin. He's also been dragging her places (kinda reminds you of barbaric cavemen, which isn't that far of a likeness), such as his hometown in Pennsylvania. Didn't he swear back then that he wouldn't bring any girlfriends home to his kids? Well, we never had much faith in what comes out of this guy's mouth anyway. Us Weekly reported that the Jon and Kate Plus 8 patriarch gave his 22-year-old girlfriend a tour of Wernersville last week. They had breakfast at a local diner before driving around in a friend's car to go sightseeing. Soon they made a stopover at Blue Marsh Lake in nearby Leesport, where eyewitnesses noted how they were truly into each other. It may not be the South of France, but Hailey seemed content just hanging around with Jon Gosselin. "They definitely looked like two people in love," a source told the magazine. "They were both laughing and smiling and just enjoying being together finally without worrying about being seen. They kissed and held hands a lot." While the couple hadn't exactly arrived on the doorstep of the Gosselin property, it looks as though that might happen soon. Is Jon seriously trying to traumatize his kids? A friend of the family told Radar Online that the dad of eight talked to Kate Gosselin about his plans on bringing Hailey to the house. What? Even though Kate won't be around at the time since it'd be his turn to watch the kids, the Jon and Kate Plus 8 matriarch still objected to the idea. It was said she broke down in tears upon hearing Jon's proposal. "I think Jon is incredibly insensitive for doing this," an insider revealed. "This came out of nowhere. It took Kate totally by surprise." It's not just Kate everyone's worried about, of course. Again, there's the children's mental welfare to think about. How exactly would these young ones handle yet another personality in their lives when they're still dealing with the divorce of their parents?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 3:54 pm
I think Jon sees this sort of insensitive behavior as asserting himself with Kate, but is he thinking about his kids at all? I know Hailey thinks it will be "cool" to be a "big sister" but at whose expense?
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Glenrie
Member
03-24-2006
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 5:35 pm
Perhaps the SuperNanny could pay Jon a visit!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 9:10 pm
I do believe Jon loves his kids, and I believe that he is not going to listen to anyone who says anything contrary to what he wants...such as anyone, expert or not, saying it isn't good for his kids if he brings Hailey or any other girlfriends around his kids.
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Glenrie
Member
03-24-2006
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 9:40 pm
Unfortunately, loving your kids is just not enough. It's not always easy doing what's best for your kids instead of what you personally want to do. Once you commit to becoming a parent, your child's present and future is determined to a great degree by the choices you make. Children don't have a say in who their parents are. The adults have the only say! If adults chose to bring children into the world, then they MUST put all their childrens needs first, emotional and physical. Making decisions based on your wants slow down with marriage and end when you have a child. You must do what's best for those you love. When you don't, you have a mess. Walk the walk; don't just talk the talk.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 10:55 pm
I just think that Jon has the misguided notion that in order for him to "be a man" he has to override anything Kate might want, no matter what it does to the kids. And that he must treat himself as number one. The kids, the show, the big house, the dogs.. all there for him to "show off". So he drives Hailey around the small town, showing it off to her, proving to Kate and the world that he will do what HE wants.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, September 14, 2009 - 11:26 pm
In a way, Jon is behaving the way a rebellious teen does. If the parents want this, the teen will do that. Whatever Jon does is measured against what Kate would want him to do so he can do the opposite. He has to realize that the kids have enough on their eight plates right now without meeting the new woman in his life. The children are young but they aren't stupid and they will know that the new pal is Kate's replacement. Jon needs to take it slow because if this one actually does lead to a long term relationship, he is setting the stepmother up for a fall. The way she is presented to the kids can influence the way they feel about her forever.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 4:30 am
I agree Sea and Mama.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 7:41 am
I also agree with Sea and Mama. How about that!! ;)
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:03 am
We all agree! And Glenrie, I am applauding your post! I agree with you too!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:19 am
I'm not a big fan of the idea of sacrificing for your kids. Sacrificing to me implies doing something that you don't want to do and that often leads to guilt, regret and disappointment on both the parent's and the child's part later down the road, particularly if that sacrifice is made evident to the child. People should behave responsibly, do good things for their kids and make them happy because they want to do it. A big part of that is the parents being happy themselves. It's awfully tough to make someone else happy when you are unhappy yourself. I hope that both Jon and Kate come to realize that. All of that said, I do think that Jon should be careful about introducing new people into his children's lives too soon. The other thing that the children will hopefully realize is that this new person will never replace their Mom. Kate will always be their Mom.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:21 am
Oh Kate is on The View again, didn't know that... is she on all week? She discussed her ring and what she told the kids about wearing it/taking it off and again said she won't discuss Jon. Dr Phil is the first guest... hasn't come on yet.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:31 am
She and Dr Phil seem to agree that they did not meet for counselling but that Kate wanted to get some guidance from them both (Dr Phil and Robin) as a couple who has had to live in the spotlight for a number of years. Kate says she does not agree with what Jon has said about the content of that meeting and that she got a lot of wisdom from it. It was a private get-together of two couples chatting and was not filmed.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:33 am
Sometimes you do have to sacrifice for your children, it's part of the package. By sacrifice, I mean sometimes you put their needs before your own. I can't count the nights I've been awake all night with my sick DS, even though I needed sleep to get through the next day - as just one tiny example. When you are divorced with children, it hurts them. It hurts them deeply. They had no choice in the matter, but you are putting your need in front of theirs, and causing them great pain. Considering that, it seems a small thing to give them time to heal and accept, before you introduce someone new in their lives. Especially when it's a very young relationship, and may not last. You're inviting them to become close to someone, to love them, and then may again just jerk that person out of their young lives when it doesn't suit you any more. And unlike a biological mother, it is generally a complete loss. It's extremely selfish to me for people to not see this. This couple isn't even divorced yet, and Jon wants his kids to be in relationship with his new infatuation. Without any thought about their feelings, or well being. It's just plain wrong. These are very young children, and it will take them some time to adjust and mourn the loss of what their family was. And even so, at each new age, and each new level of understanding the world, they will mourn again. And again. And again. Jon may have feelings for these children, but he doesn't *love* them, because real love requires understanding. And he doesn't get it.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:58 am
I'll let you in on an example of selfish parenting: DH's dad has to be about the most selfish person when it comes to his children that I've ever seen, even though his children are all grown now. When my DH was 2 years old his dad had a number of affairs (we don't know how many) but finally his mom had enough and they divorced. She had just barely moved out with their 3 kids in tow (because she could not afford the house payment on her own he bought her out of a portion of the house they bought together) and Dad moved in another woman and her daughter. Gave the daughter his daughter's previous bedroom because his daughter was only going to be there part time and she could share with her two brothers when they were there. His daughter was 6 at the time. DH's brother was 4 at the time and his dad told him that mommy left daddy because she was mean. The 4 year old was crushed and stopped speaking to his mother for a full week until she found out what had been said. Their dad was a County Sheriff at the time, and apparently above the law, as the struggle for child support, etc. etc. drug on and on. (At one time she put a lein against the house, but after 10 years, she didn't renew it and just gave up. This was before the whole dead beat dad laws) He married the gal that he'd had the affair with and adopted her daughter almost immediately. SHe was abusive toward his three children and when his kids came to visit on the weekends DH told me it was they were her little servants and her daughter (who was the same age at the time as DH's brother), and they were FORCED to call her mother. Then, when the three kids went back to their mom's, Dad, new wife and her daughter would go off to Disneyland without the other 3 kids because it was too expensive to take 4 kids, or they went camping and did really fun things and left his kids out. However, their mom, who worked 2 jobs to feed her kids managed to take them twice just to make up for it. She eventually was able to buy her own home so her and her 3 kids were not smashed into a 2 bedroom apartment. He was married to the new wife for about 12 years, before that fell apart, and days after she was gone, surprise, he moved in another woman. DH was 14 at this time. He told new woman he would not remarry until his kids were grown and out of the house (even though they ddin't really live there), so the week after his youngest child (My DH) left for the Marine Corps, he married this woman and she proceeded to go through the house they now lived in and remove anything that belonged to his kids and put it out in the garage, where it got broken, destroyed, thrown out, etc. etc. To this day (and it's been over 10 years since he married the 3rd lady, who I cannot stand to be in the same room with for more than a moment) DH barely has much to do with his dad and neither does his older (bio) sister. His brother, who always resented his mom because of things his dad told him, has not spoken to his mother in about 4 years. So things Jon is saying and doing now is absolutely going to damage his relationship with his children. Irreparably.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, September 15, 2009 - 8:58 am
I can't count the nights I've been awake all night with my sick DS, even though I needed sleep to get through the next day - as just one tiny example. I've done the same thing with my daughters. But you did that because you wanted to do it - right? So in that sense it wasn't a sacrifice.
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