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Dipo
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04-23-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Cyclope, I agree. I enjoyed seeing normal life with an occasional vacation, like the driving trip to WDW. It was interesting to see how they managed to get them and all their stuff down to Florida.

The obviously scripted "vacations" they now take aren't as interesting. I like to see how day-to-day living is going, so I am not as invested as I was initially. I usually catch all the shows in reruns, LOL.

Sammi
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03-31-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sammi a private message Print Post    
I am not a Kate fan at all, but I have to be with her on this one. A slap on the butt for defiance is needed in my book. I was given a crack as a kid when I needed it, and as one of you said, once was enough and I didn't do it again and I certainly do not feel I was abused as a child. She is under a ton of stress right now and I certainly wouldn't want to walk in her shoes right now, in spite of all the perks she has.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
How very disappointing that she did that. I think I need to stop watching this show if she's now resorting to violence.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
She's had him for quite a long time. Why? Because the American public can be quite frightening.

Thanks for the info, Beekind. I'm just curious why we never saw him before and now we do. Weird.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Oh please.........that particular kid probably needed a tap. Let's not blow things out or proportion, Kate may have her short comings but she will not hurt her children either physically or mentally.Besides she is too busy sniping at Jon !

On the body guard with the gray hair, and I find it very self serving that she feels the need to have a body guard; but he is so fine < pronounced fioneeeeeeeeeeeee > that it ought to be against the law to be that darn handsome. He is hot.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Re: spanking, if you spanked swatted hit or whatever some other kid or an adult you are breaking the law. Kids do what they see you do. If you hit, they will hit. (Yes, they will probably hit anyway when they are little and don't have the verbal skills to deal with their frustrations, but we need to tell them hitting isn't ok.) And yes, I have seen Kate hit Jon affectionately having fun and I didn't like that either. Neither type of hitting is being a good role model in my opinion.

I really hope she didn't spank, swat, or hit Leah. I did see the photo. I also see there is a link on one of comcast's main pages and aol's homepage to something about Kate spanking. I am going to not click on that stuff in the future. Maybe if enough people don't click on that stuff, the internet and tv will lose interest. I am glad their ratings are going down. I hope things get better for that family.

I just saw the ep where Jon made his Korean dinner. I am glad the kids will have a ep like this where they can see their parents smiling and hugging.

Kate has a hard time doing what she needs to do when she feels crowded. There is nothing wrong with that. So what. She didn't want Jon and the camera crew in her kitchen while she was trying to make lunch. I don't think that is a reason for anyone to get on her case.

In that ep, she was affectionate and complimentary to Jon. Yes, she did tell him she didn't want him in her kitchen all day, but she wasn't mean at all about it, imo. Kate, like many other moms, tries to control out of fear of the future. It may not be the best thing, but when those kids were little, there was no time to deal with unplanned big messes (like gum on clothes and stuffed animals) and an entire kitchen being messed up...which is probably what she was afraid of when Jon was cooking. It was his first time making anything other than breakfast, he said in the ep.

Interesting to me about that ep was when Jon made some comments about Kate doing it wrong or making a mistake about the green onions. They were cut up and all mixed together. She said she had done that for some other recipe that she was going to make later in the week. He sorted all the green ones from the white ones. These were tiny little pieces of green onions. Then, he added them to his Hawaiian fried rice one container right after the other!

And it is stuff like that that makes me think...good thing Kate didn't do that.

He also mumbles I've noticed. And so it is hard to tell in those earlier eps, when he has said not the nicest thing to Kate. She is very clear and louder and so has gotten picked on (to put it mildly) for pretty much doing the same to him as he did to her.

Anyway, the Hawaiian rice looked delicious and I'm going to crave it all day! I really enjoyed seeing the ep! An oldie but a goodie.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm not afraid for the kids, not fearful she will beat them. I don't think a swat on the behind is going to do them long term harm. But this does give me pause for a few reasons.

I think hitting is short-cut parenting. It takes more time and effort to dole out an appropriate consequence or punishment. Hitting is the easy out for the parent -- it stops the kid in their tracks and it's a anger release for the parent. It's based on the parent's level of frustration.

If Kate has all along been a closet spanker, then I am very disappointed that the show has painted us a picture of a household run by consequence and time outs with never a hint of spanking or hitting. If Kate is suddenly doing this then it speaks volumes to her stress level and she really needs to get some kind of help with the kids and other means to release her frustrations.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
from In Touch online...

Around 11 a.m. on June 13, a witness spotted Kate, 34,

a witness spotted??? in her own driveway, behind gates, a few feet away and then just happens to have their camera out.

i don't debate spanking, but this is just a little suspect to me. the big girls don't look distraught or worried. we have seen no signs ever that either parents chooses spanking as their method of discipline. if TLC was trying to protect them, and they had been spanking all along, then why let it get shown now?

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
i don't debate spanking

I think that's wise. Both sides are intransigent, so eventually I end up wanting to spank them.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
but she will not hurt her children either physically or mentally.

She is TOTALLY hurting these kids mentally by not preventing their lives from being front page fodder for rag mags and the internet.

(And yes, if she did spank Leah, and I am quite sure she did by the looks of that photo plus what she said about the incident, then she did hurt Leah physically.)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I agree Brenda!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Brenda, I very much agree with your 12:26 post.

Sorry to get off topic, but this link shows very much what I think about spanking and shows a good alternative to spanking.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Happymom spanking or swatting your child is not illegal.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The fact that the ratings are declining is a bit deceptive. Yes they are declining but only because of that enormous boost at the start of the season. I'm sure TLC is very happy about the ratings.

People have very strong opinions about spanking or swatting (which IMO is different than spanking) based on their personal experience. I don't think anything we say here will change those opinions.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
ay yi yi...a spanking debate,I'm gonna back out slowly and quietly......

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Cricket...

I'm just curious why we never saw him before and now we do.

He was there. We just weren't looking for him.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
On the body guard with the gray hair, and I find it very self serving that she feels the need to have a body guard

I think, until you are in the public eye, it is very difficult to understand how people can be. How people feel they can come up to you, yell at you, grab at you, etc.
It can be very frightening and you can find yourself in a very vulnerable position.

I completely understand Kate's need for personal protection.

Dfennessey
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07-25-2004

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfennessey a private message Print Post    
as someone said every child is different. if a spanking works for one child that is fine no one knows if kate tried other forms of discipline before she spanked them. as long as a child is not beaten.

Cyclope
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09-13-2005

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 1:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cyclope a private message Print Post    
I agree with you Marameko... that body guard is very fioneeeeeeeeeeeee. I don't know if there is cheating or not and it's not the point but I do think Kate and him look good side by side.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I think that's wise.


thought you knew by now, tish...i am very wise! LOL


ay yi yi...a spanking debate,I'm gonna back out slowly and quietly......

skoots over and makes room for Lori!

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
Quit hogging the popcorn Annie!!
I brought the Cokes..

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 3:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Escapee, I know spanking your own child isn't illegal, but if you hit another kid that wasn't your own child or hit another adult, that would be illegal.

I think it is wise for Kate to have a bodyguard. She's had him for quite awhile, I actually thought he was their (J &K + 8) bodyguard. (Maybe he is just Kate's bodyguard now.) I just think TLC hasn't shown him. Maybe he isn't so needed when they go places when TLC shoots. There is a tremendous amount of Kate hate out there. There are also crazies that will try to take those kids. They all need protected.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 3:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Beekind, that could be true. He is a very nice looking guy. I read that his wife (I think it said.."who had been a friend of Kate's?) said it's ridiculous and not true that he and Kate had any kind of relationship.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Scoot over on that couch...pass me a coke please.