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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
All Jon lawyer is hearing is Kaching, Kaching, Kaching. I'm wondering if he's bought a new sports car yet?

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Jon should file for bankrupcy now....

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I wonder if its too late for Jon to see the error of his ways and beg TLC for the show to continue till the contract is up in Feb.

Sorry, but this guy is not smart at all. If he really felt the show was harming his kids he only had till Feb 2010 then the contract was done. Way easier to not to renew a contract then pull the plug.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
For some reason I strongly believe it was the lawyer's idea to pull the plug on the show, and due to Jon's lack of smartness his lawyer probably sold him on it being a good idea.

What I don't get now is that even through his unsophisticatedness can't Jon see this is a train wreck, why not jump off now. I don't see why he doesn't realize that his lawyer is not making the best moves and get rid of him already.

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
Oh I agree, Jon cant think for himself, he got bad advice from his attorney.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
According to either tmz or radar (puter issues, dont want to risk crashing by opening extra windows.. sorry) Jon has made nice with TLC enough that he and Kate will be sitting down for a one hour season finale special in which they will discuss the last year and future plans for themselves, each other and their kids. The episode will air Monday after next... Nov. 23rd.

Ahnicka, I get the impression that Jon THINKS he is being big man on campus now that he has gotten rid of his ole' ball n' chain but in reality he is still just a puppet with someone new pulling the strings. The new puppetmaster is just better at manipulating him into thinking he is in control. I feel sorta bad for him because I think he is half-way through a really painfull learning curve and five yrs from now he will be a completely different person. That Jon will have much better insight I am sure (or at least I hope).

ETA: I think the lawyer was counting on Jon's dramatic turnaround creating public sympathy which in turn would put pressure on TLC. For so many reasons that didn't happen.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Ahnicka, I get the impression that Jon THINKS he is being big man on campus now that he has gotten rid of his ole' ball n' chain but in reality he is still just a puppet with someone new pulling the strings. The new puppetmaster is just better at manipulating him into thinking he is in control.

Rissa, unfortunately for Jon I think you're absolutely right. Funny how most others can see it, but Jon can't; it's like he really doesn't see it at all. Weird; but I agree they have him *thinking* he's running things and that he's large-and-in-charge.

I do worry he's going to wind up flat broke, but I'm sure they will start up a plan for him to collect spousal support at that point. It's so sad to think of where he might end up if he holds on to his team of puppetmaster leaches.

ETA: Well you never know these days, maybe the legal battle will turn out to win in his favor.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
More throwing stuff at the wall to see if it sticks, LOL. This one is pretty laughable.

Jon Gosselin Countersues TLC Over 'Reputation'

Jon Gosselin has fired off a countersuit against TLC -- claiming the network caused him "to suffer harm to his reputation." (insert joke here).

According to court docs, Kate's ex says he didn't breach his contract with the network -- and now he wants $175,000 he claims they owe him from the show.

Best line ever ... Jon says in legal docs, "because of the enormous Media interest ... and public interest it makes it impossible to carry on normal daily activities, let alone find, secure and maintain a job with an employer who is willing to be exposed to the daily Media intrusions that has impeded my life." Pleeeeeze!!!!

Gosselin claims TLC has been bad mouthing him all over town -- he wants $5 million in damages.


[TMZ]

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
That's not gonna work. You can and he has done IT work at home.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Yes, I didn't see it written on stone tablets anywhere that "Jon Gosselin cannot work in any field but entertainment".

And of course if he had never signed that TLC contract, he couldn't possibly be claiming that he was "losing" his "entertainment career".

My dad once had a kid on a bike suddenly turn right in front of his car. No chance of avoiding the collision and it broke the boy's leg. This was extremely painful for dad since it was my brother's best friend. Kid immediately said, it was his fault, he wasn't even looking just turned without noticing the car, etc.

We visited him in the hospital, etc.

The boys continued to play on little league, same team.. the dad of the friend was the manager.

So.. time passes.. we have moved since then, they were in the Marines and probably moved..

Just before the kid turns 18, they slap my dad with a lawsuit, claiming that he pursued the boy onto the sidewalk and various other total fabrications, complete with witnesses who weren't even in sight of the accident and the son, looking totally sick at his stomach, lying on the stand.

Oh and guess what.. my dad deprived the son of his "professional baseball career".

This kid wasn't even one of the bettr players and at that time they were 10 or maybe 11 years old, not to mention that he did return to playing after surgery and rehab.

Dad's insurance company of course had the decisions and after some negotiations decided that the case wouldn't stand up in court and it didn't but it scared my parents and saddened us all, mostly because of what it had seemed to do to my brother's childhood friend.

But claiming that you have been deprived of something that never was and never would be..

And $5 million?

Oh and speaking of contracts.. I wonder who was protecting JON when he signed a contract/agreement with the current attorney and manager son???

Maybe he needs yet another attorney down the line to talk about how naive Jon was and how taken advantage he was by THIS attorney.

Jon is just the perpetual victim...

http://www.popeater.com/2009/11/13/jon-gosselin-sues-tlc/


quote:

'Jon & Kate Plus 8' star Jon Gosselin has filed a $5 million lawsuit against TLC, the network that produces the show, PEOPLE reports.

Gosselin believes TLC has damaged his reputation and is preventing him from finding work elsewhere, according to PEOPLE.

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"Their behavior has caused Jon great anguish and it has caused him financial losses," his attorney Mark Heller says.

Heller claims that Gosselin did not have a lawyer present when he signed the contract with the network for the show. "They had a cadre of lawyers so they had a one-sided agreement," he explains.

TLC has also sued the father of eight for breach of contract.




Actually the comments with the article are more fun but couldn't repeat most of them here..

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Maybe he needs yet another attorney down the line to talk about how naive Jon was and how taken advantage he was by THIS attorney.


LOL So true.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Rolling my eyes here.....................Q^Q

"Entertainment career " <100> ? who the hell told him he had a friggin entertainment career ?
Gimme a break

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I hope Jon wins his lawsuit against TLC. He didn't say the marriage was over; Kate did. TLC lets Kate go on interviews (and get paid by) other stations/churches, etc. They are suing Jon because he was no longer with Kate and wanted to do his own thing. They are mad at the wrong person. They should be mad @ Kate for telling Jon it was over before the series was done.

They can't expect Jon to act a certain way after he was told by his wife it was over. Divorces are unpredictable, so to hold him to a certain behavior and where he can and can't appear is just silly post separation; therefore, I hope he wins his countersuit.

Having said that, I do hope that both Jon and Kate's 15 minutes of fame are nearing the end. It doesn't appear so if Kate does get the show with Paula Deen, but sheesh, it's time for both of them to get new careers and figure out how to co-parent their children.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
The divorce has nothing to do with Jon's appearances.

That is a contract issue.

Jgalt
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02-17-2009

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 7:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jgalt a private message Print Post    
I imagine both Jon and Kate signed a contract which has given TLC control over what they do outside the show, speaking engagements, show appearances, etc.. I guess Kate submits to TLC a list of the things she is going to do for their approval. Jon, who I also assume signed the same contract, agreed to the same things. He has done whatever he wanted whenever he wanted, and I'm sure that is against the TLC contract. I don't believe TLC is being vindictive, but Jon certainly isn't conducting his life in a manner TLC tried to portray in many of their programs. For the most part, this channel has many programs families can view together, and Jon and Kate was one of these shows.

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Cricket I agree with you 100%. By the way, what ever happened to community property. All of the money that they have belongs to both of them. If a woman is married to a man who makes a lot of money, she gets half, why isn't this also the case with Jon and Kate.....just askin?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Is PA a community property state? I don't think the division of the marital property has anything to do with the TLC lawsuit though.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 5:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
So if a couple separates and months later the wife goes on a shoplifting spree, the husband should have to serve half the jail-time? Confused as to why Kate would have to pay for a contract she stuck to but Jon didn't. His actions have already caused her to lose money but now she should also lose more making amends for his illegal doings?

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I think the question is and people are choosing to ignore is that why when a couple gets divorced the woman always tends to get half of everything, why isn't it that way for Jon? Why is this situation different from any other couple divorcing?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 1:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
aren't these two separate issues? how the couple divides the marital assets and the legalities of the TLC contract?

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Well they signed the contract as a married couple, so I can only assume if they are suing Jon and he indeed has to pay, then it will most likely come from the account he has with Kate. I mean common sense. He will get money from Kate, from his time on TLC etc...So in this lawsuit everyone loses.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I think it would depend on how the contract was phrased. Did they have individual contracts? If so, only Jon is responsible for breaking HIS contract. If they had one contract for both of them, then theoretically Kate may also be responsible, but it depends on what language is in the contract about holding them responsible collectively or individually, if there is any.

Regardless of what you are going through personally, you are still held to your legal obligations. If it's a joint contract, a court could hold each of them accountable to a different degree, such as one is 70% responsible for the breech, another 30% responsible. Or the court could even assign a percent responsibility to TLC, and limit damages that way as well.

And yes, the contract and marital division of property are two different issues.

It's like the mortgage on your home when you divorce. If you both signed the loan you are both individually and WHOLEY responsible for repaying the debt, regardless of whether you get divorced or not. The mortgage company may go after both parties, or the party from which they are most likely to collect.

And that has absolutely nothing to do with how the asset, the home, is allocated in the division of property.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I believe if only Jon is found responsible for breech of contract, any payments will come out of his *half* of their joint assets. In other words, they won't take the money first and then divide what's left equally.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
As a publicist, I can tell you that it is standard that contracts for people appearing on television include restrictions on where and when they can make appearances (both paid and non-paid), and what other business deals they can make. The reasons why are spelled out clearly in the TLC filing. It's to protect the company's business interests so the talent do not harm the company, either reputation-wise or financially (signing on with competitive advertisers, etc.). It's also pretty routine, in my experience, for a network to approve many of the talent's requests for outside appearances and business partnerships, as long as they don't compete with or harm the company's business interests. The point, though, is that the contract specifies that they have to get approval.

So, it appears that both Jon and Kate signed the contract. They were then paid to meet the terms and obligations of their contract. It appears that Jon did not.

Lest you think this is unfair, it should be noted that the people who sign these contracts are PAID for this contract point.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Saturday, November 14, 2009 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
That's the way I see it as well Karuuna.