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Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
I never assumed they were left unattended I was just wondering what they were doing in California and if the kids were here too or back home in PA with someone. I just meant that the Hayes seems to worry a lot less about the little things like clothing plus she has so much more on her plate with one child with CP.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Just a couple of episodes ago, Kate and Jon said they now have a full time nanny that prefers to stay off camera. I kind of got the feeling she may live with them, but I don't know.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I thought Kate said they had a helper they trust (who chooses not to be on TV or her name mentioned) but that the children would NEVER have a nanny.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
What's the difference? I think Kate just hates the word. If someone is in your home helping with your children full time, even if you are at home, I think it technically can be called a nanny, whether Kate likes the word or not...:-)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Maybe the helper helps with non-kid stuff, like cleaning, cooking, laundry, errands, etc.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I never heard her say a nanny. I think a helper is way different. I had a mother's healper in the afternoons when my kids were little that helped me get through the witching hour so I could get dinner cooked ect. I would have never considered her a nanny.
I have lots of friends with nanny's and they all live in.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
No no no...They help with the children. You can tell with old "helpers". There was one sweet girl that they did used to film alone watching and playing with the kids in the garage and front yard while Kate was busy with other things. I also specifically remember her dressing the children for their outings.

ETA: Oh! And remember the vacations where they brought her along? Her sole job was watching the kids. Remember all the scenes of her on the beach playing with them? Now that definitely looked like a nanny to me.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Why does it matter so much to you what Kate wants to call her? Who cares if she's called a helper or a nanny or a housekeeper or whatever??

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Just don't call her late to dinner! Oh wait...that's me!!!

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Twinkie, are you asking me?

If you are, I don't care. I was being questioned about my 12:41 post and responding (someone was wondering who is watcing the kids). It isn't me who cares what she is called...It's someone else on the board and Kate herself.

eta: note my post starting with "what's the difference?"

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i think one reason she might take exception to the word and certainly why i do, is that the word 'nanny' has come to imply hands off parenting.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
My sister has a nanny and that does not mean in the least that she (sister) is a hands off parent at all. I don't know why semantics mean so much. Kate has someone who helps her with her kids. If she can afford and and wants it, what's wrong with that?? I just don't like when people get defensive or adamant about something such as "Oh no way do I have a nanny. I just have a mother's helper." Come on, be real. It is the same thing... By the same token, having a nanny is nothing to be ashamed about.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, again...I can't tell if that is directed toward me.

If it is, where did I say anything to reflect that?!?

Someone ASKED where the kids were while Kate is out and about...I mentioned they have a full time nanny now.

PLEASE, where is the negativity in that? It was just a statement.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
semantics are very important, it's how people get offended on message boards! LOL

i am probably being overly senstive because i was judged harshly about my helper and was projecting since poor kate seems to be judged for everything she does.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Interesting, because round here nanny = rich. :-) Those who can afford to have a nanny are the lucky ones who make a lot of $$$. Those of us who don't, send our kids to "daycare".

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Yeah, I know Tex...I think it's just fine for them to have help. But I think it's silly for them to make such a distinction that they don't have a nanny. They sure do have a nanny. They just don't have an 18th century nanny where the parents only see the children when they are "called upon"..LOL

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Naja, no not directed at you (or anyone for that matter) at all.

I think it is dumb and annoying of Kate if she is insisting that she does not have a nanny if she does have a person who really is nanny! (a rose by any other name...)

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Perhaps it is the helper who prefers not to be referred to as a nanny.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Well, Ophiliasgrandma, if I have to be frank here...I think they have a nanny and don't "allow" her to be on camera so that she can't get famous or be paid because of the Gosselin fame. As if they are heading off an Aunt Jodie situation.

Delurker
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08-19-2005

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delurker a private message Print Post    
What exactly happened with Aunt Jodie and Beth too for that matter?

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Jumping in because I used to BE a Nanny:


Just because one can afford a Nanny, doesn't always mean one should HAVE a nanny. Sometimes I wish I had a Nanny. But then, again I don't want someone else parenting my kids while I am there. They do go to daycare, so I may just be splitting hairs. But I think that too many people utilize Nanny's/Helpers/Childcare when it's not necessary. Any teacher will tell you that too many parents don't take the time or make the sacrifices needed to parent their own children. They dump it on someone else.

Sure, everyone needs a break, and someone has to watch your kids if or because you have to work. But I think it's hillarious, those women who don't work, have only like 2 kids, and have a Nanny full time. (Julie I have no clue what your sister's situation is, so please don't be offended at this post)

Like I said I used to be a Nanny and all I did was feel bad for the kids I watched. It was funny because this woman had two kids, her husband worked 8-5, she was stay at home mom (their business was out of their house)who had one daughter in school all day and a baby. The amount of work to be done for the business was only for a couple hours in the morning. Meanwhile, I would get their at 8, get the oldest up and ready, get the baby up and dressed, fix food, fix lunch for the kid, get them both in the car and take the girl to school, come back, put baby in the snuggly, do some paperwork for the business, faxing, updates, etc. etc. and the mom would just barely be waking up at this time. She'd buzz around the office til about 11, I'd put baby down for nap for about an hour, help her, then she'd go in and watch Y&R, AMC, and DOOL, and then at two, I'd put baby in the car, go to get kid from school, baby would fall asleep in car, kid would get home, do homework have snack, baby would go down for it's second nap, I'd finish up some paperwork and then go home.
Why she couldn't do all that herself is beyond me, as I was only 18 at this time. Oh, and let's not forget the soccer practices I lugged them both to, coached one year and the dance lessons I sat through all while mom was home cleaning house and prepping for dinner. SERIOUSLY.

Now, if you have umpteen kids and you actually need help because there are not enough hours in the day, well that's one thing.

I guess what I am getting at is that I understand what Naja is saying.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
ETA: The baby was very premature when she was born, and once a home health nurse came to check on the baby's progress and she said this baby is lucky to have two mother figures (as when she came I was bathing the baby while mom was drinking a glass of wine and wathcing her stories and I was getting ready to feed and put baby down for a nap) and the lady I worked for got livid. LOL I just remember thinking that maybe she needed to do some mothering. So the gal I worked for took the baby to feed and rock her and the baby cried and cried until she gave her back to me. I gave my notice shortly after that.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Delurker, their Aunt Jodie became a beloved regular on the show, so the producers asked J&K if they could pay AUnt Jodie for her time as a regular on the show. J&K said NO and never bothered informing Aunt Jodie of the offer. The next season, the producers asked Aunt Jodie directly, and K freaked out and cut Jodie and her family out of their lives completely. BTW, this is fact, posted may times over by the family, and there is even a video of Aunt Jodie confirming this.

Delurker
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08-19-2005

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Delurker a private message Print Post    
Wow Naja, I had no idea. Did this happen to Beth too?
I can't understand cutting them out of their lives like that!

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
There's always 2 sides to every story. I'm sure Aunt Jodie has her side and J&K have their's. Just because someone says its so on a video doesn't make it so. I wouldn't know one way or the other since I never watched the show until this year. I just don't assume anything.