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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 1:49 pm
i believe (and i think they have even said) they were attracted to one another because they were opposites. He admired her drive and she liked his ability to relax and enjoy life. many times the very thing that attracted us to our mate becomes something we despise during times of trouble. huk'd, i agree..when kate isn't home we see her working or spending time with one child. when jon hasn't been home, he seems to be playing.
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 1:57 pm
Kate stayed home with Mady and Cara when they were born then went back to work part-time. She then pretty much quit completely when pregnant with the tups' and on-ward. That whole working one saturday every 2 weeks didn't last long. So she's pretty much been a stay at home mom for at least a combined 4-5 years. So why are people thinking its ABSOLUTELY ridiculous than Jon, god forbid, stay home with the kids?? I mean yes, it's different when Kate's out of state and not able to drive right home as Jon was able to when he was working, but still, there's enough comparable there to make me wonder.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 2:30 pm
yep, that 30 weeks of mandatory bed rest can really interfere with working.
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 2:37 pm
That and after too. LOL That wasn't exactly a choice.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 3:08 pm
Arent the kids going to private school over an hour away from where they currently live? (I know I read somewhere that Cara and Maddie are in the same school and the school emailed the parents and staff to "no comment" on anything to respect the children - which I say good for them!)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 3:52 pm
i think (not completely sure) that the girls stayed at their same school. i don't think their new house is exactly next door to their old house so it might be safe to assume they are probably driving a distance. if so, i think it's great they wanted to keep the girls in a consistant enviroment.
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Snoopsmom
Member
02-19-2003
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 6:42 pm
You know things have gone too far with all of the "news" about Jon and Kate when you tune into Larry King and their relationship is the discussion topic. Most odd thing about it, his panel of guests having this discussion are: some woman I don't recognize, Dr. Drew Pinsky and Andrew Firestone! Yep, Andrew Firestone. I just don't get it.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 8:06 pm
Neko, I think it is because Jon wasn't doing the earning, while Kate was, with speaking engagements that are paid and, such as they are, her books and touring and signing. Jon wasn't into that. He claims to feel trapped, but really not many guys get to spend, like, 5 or 6 days snowboarding with their friends (one of whom might be a 23 year old school teacher who hopefully was on spring break and not calling in sick and who seems headed for losing her job, since I suspect they might have morals clauses and heck, at least here, teachers are being laid off. And yeah, he filmed a segment about helping a kid (along with an attractive blonde woman too) and that is great publicity for that program and nice that Jon wanted to do it, but that didn't seem to be the whole 5-6 days and surely must have been scheduled around the girlfriend's spring break and oh too bad about Kate's birthday.. which would have been nice to celebrate for his kids.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 9:40 pm
WOW!! Did anyone see the promo for whatever Inside Edition type show that CBS has? They said "Is watching Jon and Kate DANGEROUS for your family?" And had the word DANGEROUS in huge letters over a photo or video of Jon and Kate. Jon and Kate: Wake up! Time for you to take those kids and go to Europe for a year or two. And leave the cameras at home.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:47 pm
I read on another board that Jon's b-day is 3 days after Kate's and there has never been a big deal made out of his b-day, but there always has about Kate's? I haven't watched regularly, so correct me if they were wrong on the other board. One thing I think everyone is missing because of the scandal of "Is he cheating," "Is she cheating?," is that having kids is a stress on any marriage. (OK, people on THIS board have said that, but mostly I've read about who is more responsible or not.) When you have that many children (or less) and they need your attention most of the time, the relationship between the parents often gets pushed aside because the little ones need care. Even if they weren't on TV, I could see this happening. Heck, I've seen it happen with people who only had "singles," maybe 2 or 3. They just happened to be filmed for all to see. I understand they made the choice to do the show, but I'm sure they thought in the first place it would be a way to care for all of those children financially. I doubt they ever thought things would get like this and they certainly didn't think about growing apart. I just feel terrible for the kids. It makes it worse for them since they're in the public eye, but it's not easy on any kids when their parents can barely speak 2 words to one another. It happens all the time. A lot of couples give up and then others just keep plugging along and hopefully, when the kids are older they will find one another again. I just find it all very sad.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:51 pm
Watching, I could have missed it, but I actually don't remember any mention of Kate's birthday (Mother's day, yes) but Kate took Jon on a trip for his birthday one year and they had a couple of episodes about that. They went to a restaurant with family and surprised him with the trip. He was sort of awkward about it on camera. They went somewhere hot and Kate got a horrible sunburn. So.. that sounds like his birthday was celebrated to me.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 5:21 am
I am not sure that it's necessarily the Gosselin's fault that tabloid tv is generating stories about them. That's kind of like blaming any person/celebrity who is stalked by the paparrazi. I don't think that Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, Heather Locklear, Oprah (just trying to think of who i saw on the front pages of the rags while i was in the grocery line! LOL) should necessarily stop acting because they were featured in the tabloids. Sea, that's the only thing I remember in regards to either Jon or Kate's birthdays.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 6:35 am
It is TOTALLY not the Gosselin's fault. Also, those actors are not "featuring" their whole families. They are acting themselves as individuals. They are not putting their kids in front of a camera each and every week (and agreeing to the repeats so they are on many times every single day!) I think it is horrible that they said the thing about your family watching Jon & Kate being DANGEROUS. It is so totally UNFAIR!! But at that point, the parents should be responsible and cut bait and run. Fair or not. Put the kids' well being ahead of all else. Forget the interviews. (Well maybe do one "final" one and in that one ask the public's help to let them be. Even ask that they stop buying the tabloids. Tell the public they'll come back in a year for another interview.) But just get those kids out of the limelight. NOW! Even for Jon and Kate's own good. That cannot be healthy for themselves either.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 6:48 am
I didn't see the story you are referring to, but it seems like the story was pure conjecture. it wasn't about what kate/jon did, but what alledgedly could be done to my family by watching. i have seen plenty of stories like 'poor suri...whatever' and Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes certainly aren't putting her in the media. I don't think that manufactured stories should be able influence their actions..it seems to me that gives even more power to those rags.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 8:15 am
Ok, I have been sitting here reading about Kate has to go travel because it's her job. This irritates me. She makes the choice to travel, but because she says its work, it's acceptable. Just because you write a book doesn't mean you need to go do a bunch of book signings, yes it can be good for publicity, but, it isn't required, I have yet to go to a book signing and I read lots of books. She chooses to go do speaking engagements, if the figures are correct, they are making pretty darned good money just doing the episodes. So maybe her "need" to travel is more about getting away and less about being her job. Lets face it, people are ok with her traveling because she says its for work, they aren't ok with his traveling because he doesn't claim that he "has" to do it for work, that he admits to going to have fun. Personally I don't understand either one of them doing all the traveling they do.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 8:17 am
After that post this one will seem catty, but, it isn't meant to be. Why exactly does she need a bodyguard? Do the kids and Jon have bodyguards as well?
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Lurkin
Member
02-15-2002
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:04 am
} Ok, I have been sitting here reading about Kate has to go travel because it's her job. This irritates me. She makes the choice to travel, but because she says its work, it's acceptable. ((,Sorry I don't know how to quote on here)) I totally agree Misty. You can sell books and not tour. You just make more money touring. I have heard various quotes how much money they make per episodes. but even if it is the lowest amount , they could both work temp/part time jobs and save money and live. Especially with the free trips, clothes, food, etc given to them. All kids will be in school soon. then they both can be at work. Families get by on what they can and make sacrifices. blame on tv, kids ,stress whatever, but marriages break up all the time. they just happen to CHOOSE To have their life on tv}
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 10:49 am
i imagine they all have body guards...look at how heated the message boards have been in their feelings/opinions about the family. with that kind of vitriol being spewed about me, i would want protection.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:11 am
Just a bit of info. because of posts above, I found on the internet that Kate's birthday is Mar. 28 and Jon's is 4/1. I also found that their new house is 10 mins. away from their old house. (old = Wyomissing Pa, Wernersville Pa is the new house.) I have no idea if the info is accurate and reliable. If it is, I find it so sad that J and K did not spend their birthdays together. If they say they do everything for their kids, that would be something good to do for the kids. Especially since they don't actually have to travel for work on their birthdays the way people with jobs, that aren't reality tv show jobs, do have to be gone for birthdays sometimes. Of course maybe it is better for the kids if they don't see J and K interacting if the interacting is going to be fighting and put downs of the other. Too bad the kids can not see their parents calmly working through the hard stuff together...too bad there was hard stuff to begin with. (Sure all marriages have hard stuff but theirs really has with the reports of Jon's alleged affair and the explosion of media attention.) I enjoyed Mon's eps. It was nice that I didn't have to see J and K grumble (or worse) at or about each other. I loved seeing them surprise Kate. It is sad though that things are going to get worse since those eps. were shot in Mar/April. (If Kate's birthday is Mar 28.) Maybe we won't see things get worse because maybe we won't see much of them together. But it is hard to watch without thinking how things went downhill...and continue to go further down as we saw in the season premiere last week.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 11:28 am
I think they need bodyguards too. There is a lot of negative stuff said, but what freaks me out even more is when I read how people love these kids so much and need to see them. It is disturbing.
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Holly
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 3:00 pm
That bothers me too, Julieboo. It's only a TV show for goodness sake.
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 4:28 pm
They're both Aries? Well, that explains everything! No way could I be married to a fellow-Aries - it'd be too volatile...lol Though they seem to be at opposite ends of the spectrum of what we Aries can be, and not as well-blended as me. 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 6:34 pm
I think if you have signed a book deal a tour is part of the contract, so, yes, you kind of do have to travel and go to the book signings. ======== Annie good point about the tabloids and not letting them shut down whatever you happen to be doing. In amongst all the Jon/Kate stuff the last two times I've been to the store are prominent tabloids with giant headlines screaming about Barack Obama being secretly gay and another mag screeching that Michelle Obama has a secret background, with the word "racist" prominently displayed. Didn't even touch the rags so have no idea what the actual "story" may be (often totally unlike the headline. But.. the point is.. no one should let the tabloid media (or any media) shut them down. Now I'm not talking about the bizarre stuff like running around, shaving your head, etc..
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 7:18 pm
well I know people that have had books published and they didn't have to do a tour, so to me she is choosing to do this, she could work to negotiate not to do so much traveling.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 7:23 pm
Yes, I would have to agree that she would be able to decide if she wanted to travel or not.
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