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Dovez
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08-27-2005

Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 10:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
oh, that is soooooo tittilating, ketch.

do tell.

please

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 1:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
I thought it was interesting that they did not list his current weight. And now with the teasing line about his marathon being not as it appears, you have piqued my interest...details, pls!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 2:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Reader, thanks for the correction.. don't know why I was calling Tara Shannon.

Week 8, Part 2:

Recaps, teasers..

Prevention Magazine Pop Quiz:

Test of knowledge about health and aging.

To help they have (product placement) Liz Baccariello, Editor-in-Chief of Prevention Magazine. Also the publisher of the book, The Flat Belly Diet.

They will ask a series of health and diet questions. First team to get 3 correct will win the quiz. The winning team will win a "Fountain of Youth" vacation package for 2.

Mandi (blue) vs Helen (black): Question: Switching from diet cola to regular cola will help you live longer. Both say False and they are both right. Blue 1, Black 1

Cathy (blue) vs Sione (black): Question: Which change in your diet is believed to help you live longer: A cutting fat or B cutting calories. Cathy A Sione B. Correct answer is B

Blue 1 Black 2

Dane (blue) vs Filipe (black): Question: Which exercise is believed to help you live longer? A Doing pushups regularly or B doing squats regularly Dane A, Filipe B. Answer is B, so black team wins.

Blue 1 Black 3

Each member of black team receives the vacation package

Mandi, Aubrey and Ron go have chicken and rice. Bob comes in and suggests the addition of veggies and we get a product placement for Green Giant Valley Fresh Steamers. Five minutes in the microwave. (the broccoli and cheese looks good)

Last Chance Workout

In the gym, Filipe is still sort of whining about losing Bob.. but Jillian challenges him and he takes up the challenge.. almost slips.. he then feels good that she knew his limits better than he did.

Mandi is really stressed out, working with Bob and hoping to be safe. Mandi likes working out with Bob, she tells us, heart rate really up, no rest.

Helen will always have Bob in her heart but she's settling in with the idea of Jillian and Jillian beat her ass.

Dan says Bob had him do things he couldn't have done three weeks ago.

And we see all the others working with Bob and Jillian.


Weigh in

Kristin tells us because she is the largest female on the ranch her it is crucial to the success of the blue team that she puts up a good number.

Bob says first weigh in as black and blue and black team is walking in with a 3 pound advantage.. they are strong because I trained most of them and made them strong (give it up, Bob) Tough weigh in.

Tonight team with greatest % loss will win the weigh in. The player on the losing team with highest % of weight loss will have immunity and cannot be eliminated from the game.

Blue team up first.

Dane: Dane loses 13 pounds and is pleased. He's now lost a total of 100 pounds! This in 8 weeks. Fastest any player on BL has lost 100 pounds. Blue team at 0.78%

Aubrey up next. Says intimidating to be up there by herself but she worked her ass off this week. She loses 5 pounds. Not the number she wanted. Blue at - 1.09%

Mandi up next. She is looking forward to getting on the scale, hoped the change in routine gave her a boost. She loses 7 pounds. Blue at -1.51%

Next we have Ron. Mike says with injuries, too unpredictable to know what is going to happen. Ron loses 5 pounds, which worries Mike. Mike was heartbroken. Blue -1.81%, -30 lb.

Kristin has her turn. She is happy to lose 10 lb, bringing their total to 40 lb and -2.41%

Cathy is last up. She's been working hard, she says, excited to get on the scales, did everything to redeem myself for last week. She loses 14 pounds!! Blue team celebrates. 54 pounds and -3.26%.

Kristin tells us she is feeling more confident that they will win this.

Time for black team: In order to win, they need to have lost more than 50 pounds as a team, but they start off with a three pound advantage.

Helen is up first. Mike is worried. Helen loses 7 pounds and is now below 100! This gives black team 10 pounds and -0.64%

Laura is nervous, lost 8 pounds last week, not sure if she can do that again. She loses another 8 pounds. Black total 18 pounds, -1.15%

Tara's turn. She loses 11 pounds. She's on cloud 9! 29 pounds, -1.86%

Mike comes up now. He's terrified this week, how his body would react to Jillian's training and diet. He loses 10 pounds and is under 300. He is so relieved. 39 pounds, -2.50.

Filipe says he knows he pushed to the limit this week. He loses 8 pounds. 47 pounds. 3.01%

Sione needs to have lost more than 3 pounds, to make sure black team is safe this week. Aubrey tells us that Sione's been pulling big numbers, wasn't happy with the team switch or his trainer, so she wonders if he can do it. He tells us it was a crazy, hectic week with the changes and the focus wasn't there. But he loses 10 pounds, ensuring that black team will all stay on campus. 57 pounds (so they didn't need that 3 pound advantage) (Bob looks pained) -3.65%.

Black team is safe tonight.

and Cathy had the highest percentage on the blue team and thus she has immunity and is safe from elimination.

Bob says goodbye to his team.

First elimination as a team (camera zooms in on Ron).


Elimination

Blue team looks somber as they meet. Cathy says who needs to be here? Ron says we all need to be here and I don't want to go. My thought is who has support at home, much as I hate to say it, Dane's got support at home; Blaine's there. Dane looks incredulous. (ed. Must say that Ron has consistently spoken up quickly and pushed his agenda, usually to save his son.. now to save himself, week after week) He's proven he can do it. I feel that I need to be here more. Dane says whoever needs to be here most is out the door. If you don't want to use my weight loss... Ron shrugs.. Dane says I understand I'm a huge threat to you and I understand I'm a big threat to Michael overall. Dane tells us that Ron wants to say this is based on who would be most successful at home.. I don't buy that for a second. I think this is a game play decision for his son. (me too) I know Michael is scared to death of me. Ron says I can't switch gears and give up the criteria I used the whole time. Dane says it is game play. Dane wants to stay. Ron says I'm not going to vote for myself; I feel like I need to be here more than Dane. Mandi cries and says she can't vote for Dane. She tells us Ron isn't going to pull in the big numbers they need, do some of the things they can do. Have to keep people here who will pull those big numbers. Aubrey cries and says she cannot make this decision. Ron won't leave his son here. Dane wants to stay more than anything in the world. He is crying, says it isn't like he's holding his team back.. Damn me for being successful.

Mike says if my dad went home and I was stuck here, I would snap. (ed all the more reason to send his dad home) Mike is nervous that Ron will go home and Mike will be truly alone here.

Voting

Aubrey doesn't feel it is fair for her to make a decision to send someone home. Aubrey votes for Kristin!

Dane says this person cannot keep up, etc. Votes for Ron.

Mandi says what is best for blue team. Votes for Ron.

Ron says person could do best job at home. Dane.

Cathy. Very hard decision, we bonded as blue team. Who will be more successful at home. Dane.

Kristin: She's teary. Unfortunate, didn't have more time to develop stronger bond. Kindest heart, funny, caring. Dane.

Dane cries.

(Wonder what Aubrey was thinking? I'd be pissed if I was Mandi)

Dane leaves. He says he came to ranch at 412 pounds. He's learned to take care of himself. Leaving with a record. 100 pounds in 8 weeks. Wife and kids will benefit. Next time you see me, you'll see a supreme athlete.

When Dane came to the ranch, his wife started training for a marathon. Dane realized he had the opportunity to train with her. We see them running the marathon together. Blaine cheers them on. We see Carli Mae, Dane's pretty wife, talking about doing that together.

Dane completed the marathon in 3 hours and 53 minutes. Plans to do many more.

Hmm, they don't give a "current" weight for Dane.. makes me think he will be quite competitive at the end.

This leaves Bob with:

Aubrey
Cathy
Kristin
Mandi
Mike

And Jillian has

Filipe
Helen
Tara
Laura
Ron
Sione


Trainer
color
NameAgeHeightStarting
Weight
Previous
Weight
Current
Weight
Loss%Total
Loss
Week 6
J
blk
Helen475'6"257205198-7 -61safe
J
blk
Laura245'9"285241233-8 -52safe
J
blk
Tara235'9"294222211-11 -83safe
J
blk
Mike185'11"388307297-10 -91safe
J
blk
Filipe265'11"364291293-8 -81safe
J
blk
Sione286'0"372296286-10 -86safe
B
blu
Aubrey285'5"249216211-5 -38 
B
blu
Mandi305'9"263210203-7 -60 
B
blu
Ron546'0"430354349-5 -81 
B
blu
Kristin285'6"360289279-10 -79 
B
blu
Cathy485'8"293263249-14 -44immune
B
blu
Dane276'4"412325312-13 -100eliminated
week 8
B
pnk
Shanon295'5"283238(198)  (-85)eliminated
week 7
J
blk
Blaine276'8"365299(279)  (-86)eliminated
week 6
B
sil
Joelle415'8"309278(252)  (-57)eliminated
week 5
B
sil
Carla365'8"379339(292)  (-87)eliminated
week 5
J
org
Daniel195'8"454394(353)  (-101)eliminated
week 4
J
org
David236'0"393377(347)  (-46)eliminated
week 4
B
red
Nicole375'8"269251(193)  (-76)Home
eliminated
week 3
B
red
Damien315'11"381351(307)  (-74)eliminated
week 3
J
wht
Estella635'8"242233(199)  (-43)Home
eliminated
week 2
J
wht
Jerry636'3"369343(259)  (-84)eliminated
week 2


Numbers in () are as reported when eliminated teams are shown and a number is given)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 2:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm really beginning to resent Ron's pushiness.. he's ousted several people, claiming they have more support at home (Daniel, for heaven's sake). But he's the dad, so if he went home, he surely could keep working out. And now he's willing to take down his whole team to support his son. I wouldn't have kept him there sinply because I wouldn't trust that his heart was with the blue team, but clearly with his son. I'd love to know what "logic" Aubrey was using tonight.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
They all should have known that Ron would sabotage his whole team just to keep his son there. Any parent would do that, and even tho I hated to see him do it and it sucked to see Dane go, the Blue Team should have known better and they did it to themselves. He thought of Mike when they had to decide which team they needed to go to. I am not fond of Ron at all. I wonder what logic he will use the next time they have to decide to vote and who he will go after.

Bob is going to have a freaking nervous breakdown, lol! To think he wanted Dane to go when he was on Jillian's team and now that he had probably one of the best players to try to keep his team in the running, he only now has a team of women and Ron, whom I believe he has truly given up on. Bad knee or not, something is totally missing in Ron's program and/or diet imo. He should be throwing out big numbers.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Dane's wife says producers drove them 3 miles starting around the 17 mile mark. And his time was around 6 hours(info not from his wife).

See www.arizonaroadracers.com/Results/desert-classic-races/dc-marathon2009.htm for more info

Their last name is Patterson.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
All I see is a Jeff Patterson, and cannot find another Patterson for his wife.

Too bad if they did fabricate it, because even if Ketchup's story is true, it was still a great achievement. I would never have been able to pull it off.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
my dh who has run marathons was flabberghasted at the time that biggest loser attributed to dane.
in the la marathon his time was worse than danes supposed time. and he was buff then.
(not so much now).

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I was slack-jawed when they said Dane's marathon time. Seems completely unbelievable that he would go from super-obese to completing a marathon in just a few months but to finish in a sub-4? If he had finished it in 6/7 hours but done it on his own, limping in on bloody stumps :-) I would be more impressed then I am if Ketchup is right. I was also suspicious when they didn't give his weight loss. He was wearing a baggy shirt so I couldn't tell if he had lost zero more pounds or fifty.

Dovez, I was JUST listening to a podcast about the LA Marathon.... how cool that you would mention it at the same time.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Hi, I have never seen this show. I just now noticed it's an elimination show. On what kind of grounds do they eliminate people who are on a weight loss show? It sounds so strange to me.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
Naja, when they were couples together on two different teams, the two people who lost the least amount of weight based on percentage were the ones who were up for elimination. Then everyone from both teams voted one of them off.

Now that they are down to singles, but still on two different teams, the team who loses the least weight during that week have to go up for elimination. The only person safe on that team is the one who lost the largest percentage weight. The team who lost has to vote one of their members out.

Like saying now, the team who loses the least weight has to go to tribal council and vote someone off, and the person who lost the most weight from that team has immunity. Hope I made sense.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Thanks :-)
Oh wow, that just awful, Zgoodgirl. Was there ever a time the person who got eliminated was really trying hard but maybe was stuck on a plateau?

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
It does kinda suck when there are ones who fall below the yellow line in the beginning who have been throwing out huge numbers except for that one time. That is where you are the most vulnerable, because if you do lose a lot you can become a threat. Sometimes it was discussed on who needed it more and who had the support at home, sometimes that saved some people from being voted out.

But now it is solely based on gameplay and where your alliances lie, and people who usually should have gone home sometimes stay. Just like what happen this week where Dane had the second highest weight loss for that week was voted out just because he was a threat.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Zd...By your descriptions, it actually sounds like an interesting show.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
one thing, naja, that i'd always liked about biggest loser is that all the contestants are treated with respect by production.
dignity is left intact.

however, starting with the last three seasons, i've noticed that "game play" has reared it's ugly head and peeps don't always do what is right by themselves or for others.
i hold trainer bob responsible for much of that.
most of the regular viewers will remember his glee at being able to pick the most powerful blue team two seasons ago. (escalator anyone?)

still it is an inspirational reality show

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Sometimes the producers are a bit loose with facts. Did Dane do a full marathon or a half marathon?

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
The only thing that I have a problem with Dovez, regarding the respect of the players is how they are weighed in. Tho I only watched last season and this one, I noticed how last season at the beginning when everyone was still heavy, the women had to weigh in with sport bras on and the men with no shirts. More than half way thru the season once everyone started slimming down more, the women wore just a regular top and the men kept their shirts on. I always wondered about why they were now allowed to add more clothing as they got thinner. I still question this tactic. I wonder if they do this because of the shock factor that might come with the voyeurs who watch the show and once they start slimming down and looking more proportioned, the shock value is gone. Other then that, I do believe that they do the best they can to not exploit these people and to make them as comfortable as they can going through this game.

I do agree it is a very inspirational show.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
It now sounds like they ran 17 miles for sure. Anything beyond that is questionable. And NBC is blocking discussion of it on their boards.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Zgoodgirl, I suspect it is the opposite. These people are losing massive amounts of weight very quickly and their body doesn't have enough time to adapt and shrink so they probably look pretty saggy in the middle stage of their weight loss. The show wants them to feel good about their weight loss and is being respectful to them and probably doesn't want to show that middle stage.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
As someone who has lost a lot of weight, I can see where the problem of excess skin would come to mind. But if that was the case, then why would they even start them out in sports bras and shirtless? What really is the point for it other than shock value?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I wish they'd be respectful from the beginning and not force the men to pull off shirts or the women to weigh in in sports bras. But, yeah, they want the shock value, for sure.

I thought that time for the marathon, or even for him finishing it was fishy.

Dane is his middle name Gregory Dane Patterson. His wife's name was given as Carli Mae last night.

Naja, there is lots of gameplay and strategy, for sure. There are also competitions that will give immunity to one or more, or an advantage (like being able to inflate a loss for the sake of the competition that night, or add pounds to someone else's weight or get special treatment (which isn't always so helpful, but sometimes is, like one pair might win the use of the trainer exclusively for a day and at certain points in the season, only people who lost less will be vulnerable that night.. there are lots of twists and turns.)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well the whole point of the show is losing weight and the dramatic change in appearance, attitude and well being associated with the weight loss. So if they open the show with them in bulky outfits that hide their size then the change isn't as dramatically obvious. So yes they do it for the shock value but there is a certain purpose to it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
They issue the shirts so they could have them wear tank tops or correctly fitting t-shirts. Obviously they know what they are facing when they come on the show.

==

I was just thinking that Ron really does think they are more entitled and they never even were split up with one going home. But I remember the sone who was on with his mom a couple of seasons back (or last?) who said that he really grew up more after she left the campus, even though it was scary, and as I remember, he made a break after the show and moved out of state to pursue his dreams and credited being on the show with helping him to do that. I think it would be good for Mike to have to stay on the ranch without Ron. Otherwise he's likely to go home and continue to rely on his dad for motivation.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
KL - I'm confused, the producers drove them 3 miles? They ran 17 miles?

First off, having run a Half Marathon 13.1 (and I cop to being a BIG person - over 200#) in 3hours 40 min - I cant believe he ran a full marathon in that time - but he is in better physical shape from the ranch than I ever was!!

2nd why do they have to inflate the time? Maybe he has run 26.2 miles in that time, just not this marathon???

(and for the record the 2 times I've run a Half the hardest part was the dern .1 mile!!)

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
There is controversy on whether he legitimately completed the marathon. His wife says that he only rode 3 miles because the BL producers were filming. But, other people in the race, state differently.