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Spitfire
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07-18-2002
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 7:22 am
Thanks Yankee. IMO it would take something extreme for this marriage to break up. Everyone has troubles from time to time. From what I've gathered from watching the show, both Jon and Kate would leave no stone unturned before throwing in the towel.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 9:05 pm
TLC dad at home on local slopes Discovery Channel shoots episode oh father, daughter’s love of Park City Adia Waldburger, of the Record staff Posted: 01/13/2009 04:54:07 PM MST When the Discovery Channel sent the Gosselin family to Park City last winter, it turns out it was familiar territory for one family member. Jon Gosselin, father of twins and sextuplets on the hit show, “Jon and Kate plus Eight” was an avid snowboarder long before he ever set foot in Utah. The Pennsylvania native grew up snowboarding at Eastern ski resorts, mixing in trips to places like Jackson Hole, Beaver Creek, Vail, and even Chamonix Mt Blanc in France all before age 19. Then “real life,” as he calls it, in the form of a wife and more kids than he could count came into the picture and the snowboard was stored. But after The Canyons Resort invited the family and the show to visit last year, an old love affair with the mountains was rekindled after 10 years away. Gosselin, 31, said he took to the slopes like he had never left. “It all came back,” he said. The more thrilling part is that his daughter, Cara, age 8, is a natural on the slopes. Since that trip, Gosselin had been wanting to make skiing and snowboarding a daddy-daughter bonding experience, and last week he finally did something about it. With the Discovery Channel film crew in tow, Gosselin and Cara headed back to The Canyons. When it was time for Cara to head back to school, Gosselin made the decision to stay a few days and make a more permanent mark on the area. He will be purchasing a condo within The Canyons village to give his family a little home away from home in Utah. Well, at least Jon and Cara, that is. Gosselin’s wife, Kate, is an admitted indoors type and he figures she won’t be in on too many ski vacations. “I’m looking for a father-daughter place,” Gosselin said. Gosselin says the plan is to have a place to visit each winter and to continue riding on a regular basis. He says that he really enjoys Park City and the Canyons, and even in his 30s, he says that he fits right in with the young crowd on the mountain. “It’s nice because I have eight kids, two dogs and live in Pennsylvania, and I can still hang with 15-year-olds,” he said. Gosselin has been riding with friends and pro riders at the resort and spending the evenings discovering what Park City and Salt Lake have to offer. But he is most excited to set some vacation roots right here. “You can do whatever you want here. I go places you can connect with people and it feels like a family,” Gosselin said. He had never been in Utah before last year and once said in an interview that all he knew about Utah was “powder, Mormons and Moab.” Since then, his world has opened up to the warm community and top-notch snow and it looks like Gosselin will soon be a part-time resident. http://www.parkrecord.com/sports/ci_11445037
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Serate
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08-21-2001
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 9:14 pm
I read somewhere, and now can't find it, that the new season starts May 25th. But don't hold me to it!
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Pinkij
Member
05-02-2008
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 9:41 pm
When they were on Oprah show, last week i think, Oprah said the new season started in May 25th.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 8:42 am
Thanks Pinkij!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 7:56 am
As for the preview, sometimes the producers make the previews look like something that is totally different from what you actually see on the show. It will be interesting to see what will actually be shown.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 9:08 am
I will give them credit, they have let themselves be seen warts and all. If they are having issues, I applaud them for taking it public (if that's what they are doing) rather than hiding it. But I wonder too if drama isn't being created where there isn't any.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 9:08 pm
Was good to see that both Cara and Jon were wearing helmets while skiing/snowboarding..
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 5:40 pm
truly Sea! I also think that the producers are leading us on - thanks for bringing the story over - and I imagine that the condo could be a great summer vacation spot too - lots of hiking and such, Utah is a beautiful place!!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 4:05 am
an absolutely gorgeous summer place!
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 9:29 am
I didn't find it strange for that Father-daughter vacation. --- The only thing I thought about is how much convincing it took to calm Mady! Kate usually freaks when she's left alone with the children. But she does always have the best interest of her kids, and that was a special treat/great memory for Cara the quiet & not so demanding one! After reading that report from Park City(THX, Serate!), I'm rather convinced that the trip was probably a business one as well. The resort and the whole city is possibly paying them for promoting the place! Before their trip last year(that was given to them by the resort owner as I recall), I never thought of Utah as a spot for ski vacation. I don't ski much, but have been drug around from time to time. We live around the Greek Peak in Central NY. We have friends who has properties in Vail. I've been to Washington/Vancouver, my people's been to Killington(sp?) for ski trips, but never Utah. The way Jon talks up the place in that report, I really have the feeling that he's doing it in a spokes person's shade. I don't want to speculate so much, but it seems to me Jon has some Korean heritage. I don't know much about Jon, but he might have some struggle to be around such a controlling wife. -- I couldn't help wonder if that's one reason his mom's not around so much. A lot of the times when Jon refuses to say certain things during their interview sessions, I feel that's his way of taking back some control. Kate does have issues. But she is still a great mom in my book and seems to be doing her best for the good of the family. Jon knows this and had said before that, (pp) the way they are different is actually working out well. Hopefully they will get to talk it out with their preacher or by themselves. I believe they will remember the important things in lives.
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Tess
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04-13-2001
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 12:30 pm
Chy, Jon is 1/2 Korean. My sister is Caucasian and very career-oriented a highly successful in her field. Her live-in boyfriend of the past 10 years is Chinese born in Shanghai. He came to the US as an adult and in watching their relationship over the years, I understand exactly what you are saying about Jon and Kate. My sister is no Kate by any means. She has a completely different, more gentle demeanor but she's also no push over. She gone from being the only scientist to being Director of Exhibit Development (something close to that) at a very prominent and well-known science museum. Her partner, though, for many years was a freelance IT guy and worked off an on so my sister was carrying much more of the financial burden for a long time. Now he works full time every day and their roles have become more equal but my sister told me it took a long time for her in their beginning years to get used to the male Asian way of thinking. Their relationship took a lot of work but they love each other as I'm sure Jon and Kate do.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 1:27 pm
Tess, I'm glad you understand. I'm relieved it's not taken as critiques. I am Chinese myself. My own brother had trouble earlier finding a good job for a couple years when their twins were very young. Basically, he won't take jobs that are beneath him. She had to get a job doing what ever("She's not as educated."). But when he wasn't a provider, he couldn't get around to do "Mommy's job" when she's at work either. We, the sisters, took turns talking very gently to him. Not a lot of good came out of talking, but he did get better eventually. We all took a great sigh when he started to work in his field again... OTOH, my other brother is just the opposite. Even after an out-of-town business trip, (system design, 5-day/wk for a while.) he is always anxious to give the wife a break. He'll even call and remind her to leave some of the house works for him, do the more important things -- spend time with children for daddy's sake. Your sister seems very understanding. Her BF is lucky. Most of the Chinese women I know will even have a hard time with the kind of men too hung up on being a traditional Asian these days! I'm not trying to attack either Jon or Kate. But they do have complicated situations. I think their love for each other and fear of God is real, so that should pull them through this mess, even if there really is a little truth to all these rumores.
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Tess
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04-13-2001
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 2:48 pm
Yes, Chy, I do understand very well. To complicate my sister's position, she has a PhD. in Immunology. Her BF went to college but I do not remember if it was in China or in the USA before he met my sister. They met in ball room dancing class and he pursued her. My sister was very reluctant because of the cultural gap. I was the one who had all of the Chinese friends in high school and college so it was easier for me to understand her BF's way of thinking. They do not have children (my sister didn't want any but BF did) so there are just the 2 nieces - his in Shanghai and hers (my daughter who is Korean) her in the USA. They struggled off and on with communication for many years and I think they still do at times but they work very hard at it. My sister won't let anyone get away without talking out a problem, either. She's very gentle but very persistent. I can understand very well your brother's feelings and actions. He is lucky to have sisters who care enough to lead him in another direction even if the path is only slightly different than before. I also understand Victor from TAR. I cannot find it in me to criticize him as many do. I can see the internal struggle on his face at times. I see that same internal struggle with Jon. He is young still but he also has a natural reticence along with a need to be the provider. You are right. Life is so complicated. I don't know any couple who could breeze through life with 8 children and never have any bumps along the way. Being Catholic, I've known a lot of families with 8 children in my life. It is not easy. We only have one 12-year-old and our life isn't easy so I can't find fault with others nor do I think you are criticizing anyone. You just have a unique perspective.
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Cricket
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08-05-2002
| Sunday, March 22, 2009 - 9:15 pm
I think it's great that Cara gets some alone time with her Dad. Imagine how much whining and crying she has to deal with around Mady all the time. Maybe Mady and Kate will bond in their own way also. As the young ones get older, some of them may be joining their Dad and Cara on the slopes in Utah.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 23, 2009 - 6:10 pm
well, the conflict turned out to be fairly minor, and i thought pretty honest of jon. loved kate and how she handled the painting! LOL
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Cnicm
Member
06-01-2005
| Monday, March 23, 2009 - 6:45 pm
So good to see that it was so minor!!!! I do hope they are coming back for season 5!!! I love this show!!
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Monday, March 23, 2009 - 7:50 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO TEL, ME IT ISN'T SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Had too much to tape tonight, so figured I could tape Jon & Kate on the west coast showing. For maybe the 3rd time in the 6 years we have had DirecTV, the weather is effecting/affecting/whichever the signal. NO NO NO NO NO!
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Monday, March 23, 2009 - 11:25 pm
Don't worry, Serate. Our DVR cuts off the tail end of every show so I missed the end. I went on a mission and found it repeating next weekend in my area next Saturday night. I am sure it will repeat in your area also. On thing I noticed while looking up episodes is that season one had 8, season 2 and 11, season 3 had in the low 30s and this past season 4 had 40 episodes. As the family has grown in popularity and there's been more demand while the babies have grown to preschool age, they literally cannot go anywhere and just be themselves. It's even easier to understand Jon's frustration when he just wants to go out and be "Jon" now that he can't. You can't un-ring a bell which is the point Kate was making. I can clearly see their dilemma since Kate is in her element and Jon is met with accusations by questionable sources. Kate hasn't raised those children alone. Jon has been there every step of the way, but having a couple of Asian family members, I can understand his natural reticence and also his feeling of needing to go out and provide for his family himself. My own daughter who is 100% Korean as opposed to John's 50%, said to me when she was poised to return to school after a long illness, "Mom, I have too many friends. I don't want to go back." Her point simply was that she didn't want all the fuss. She wanted to just slip in the door and have it be a normal day. But the fact is that for the other kids, it wasn't just another day. Just like Jon going out, for him it might just be going to the sports bar with friends and having a beer or whatever, but to the other people there, it's not a normal occurrence and they react accordingly. As for tonight's episodes, my absolutely hands-down favorite moment in a long time was Aaden with his one little dab of paint just above his glasses announcing every few seconds that he had PAINT! Hey! I've got PAINT! and on and on interspersed with scenes of the other kids. I just love Aaden.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 3:47 am
Tess, I loved that too! I think you made a great assessment of the situation.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 5:06 am
Thank you for your perspective Tess.Your comments help me understand his thought process. I was beginning to feel that perhaps Jon was not as appreciative of the opportunities the Tv show has afforded not only himself and Kate but more importantly his children. I also hope they come back as I think the kids are just so cute.
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Delurker
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08-19-2005
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 7:03 am
Tess, I agree little Aaden was one of the cutest parts of the show last night, his repeatedly asking for a paper towel was just so cute! I also agree it has to be extremely hard on them not to have any privacy in their daily lives. One point I'd like to make is that (and I admit I may be wrong in this) but it seems like some think Jon is not working or providing for his family. He DOES work, he works from home. It was even mentioned last night during the session in the "chair". (Again if I'm wrong my apologies) Just MO.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 8:36 am
I did get tickled at the overt plug for All State..guess they got a new sponsor! LOL Did anyone else notice that Maddy was hardly seen on either episode last night?
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Lilfair
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07-09-2003
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 9:33 am
The kids as usual were a delight. On the parents side, I didn't find them as delightful. The final segment in the chair was all very sad for me. Jon looked painfully miserable...there was no hiding of his unhappiness. Jon stated several times his wanting to skip season five but as usual Kate didn't hear, well maybe she heard but poopoo'ed Jon's request to take time off of doing the show. A cringe worthy moment for me was when Kate glowingly stated how she's doing exactly what she wants and loves her job all while Jon was saying how he's not happy. It will be hard to continue in what seemed like a loving marriage when one party is miserable and the other is ecstatic with what she is doing.
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Marameko
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07-15-2002
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 9:53 am
Lilfair you are right on point. Jon is unhappy,Kate is happy. Thus they have a problem.The difference was absolutely glaring last night. I do feel bad about the lack of privacy, but I wish he could just enjoy the time right now as eventually there will be no tv show.
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