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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I guess Jon and Kate can make a living just like all the other parents in America without being a television star.

Touche'!!!


Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I seriously doubt that would make any difference.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'm sure Kate could get a nursing job, and MAYBE Jon could find an IT job but.. then they'd have to pay nannies to be with the kids and not be there. Kate had 50 engagements for speaking over the year but I'm sure some were quite bunched, so that means she would still be home far more than if she was nursing.

Wondering who is having a duel here?

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm not sure a nursing and an IT job would pay for all the needed nannies and be able to pay for that mansion they are now living in.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
The thing is, they did it before--when the kids were tiny (before their first special which was when the littler ones were 18 months). They *could* do it again. (Plus now the kids will all be in school, so that helps a lot with daycare prices.)

Plus if they really get paid as much as it posted upthreads, that house is likely already paid off and they should have a lot left over. Especially if each person got paid.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Wow, how could I forget Diana. :-( I guess I should have said that it's surprising more people have not been killed since. So tragi c.

I sure hope they get past all of this. If my family spoke with the media, I don't think they'd be getting any invites to family dinners for a very long time, if ever!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
could they even find a job in this economy?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I can't see how both of them getting full time jobs and suffering a significant drop in income would improve their situation. And that's assuming they could even find full time jobs. What is done is done. They will either be able to get past it or they won't.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 11:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Julie, I don't understand why you think taking a cut in pay and having less time with the kids, even IF they could.. jobs not being all that plentiful for very well-qualified people and sll.. I do think nurses can get jobs around here, but not sure what would be available in their area, but again, why would that be a good thing?

Actually.. I don't have a link but I followed a link in a Twitter Tweet I got that had a short article preview of People coming out Friday and besides the part about Jon/Kate having differences it said that she had stated that Jon was unhappy/bored and she had suggested he could go back to work, part time, or go back to school or do volunteer work, but he had done none of those things. So, perhaps he's just not real motivated? He was self-described as just bumming around skiing and such when he and Kate met.

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Jimmer, right.. they will or they won't and if they think it is worth it, they'll work on it. The marriage..

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - 11:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
As for they did it before.. how many people had good jobs "before" and maybe don't now?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 3:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
raising hand here!

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
Random thoughts on Jon & Kate:

* On the episode where he took the kids to the vet to pick up the dog he was griping about how "he" had to put all the kids by himself in the car and all that "he" had to do. It was quite negative and made him look like a true whiner.

* I have long felt that these two were a little edgy but the kids are so darn cute that you focus on the kids and not the parents.

* A body guard ? I wonder if this is the norm for reality stars; they are taking themselves just a tad to serious for my liking.Does Jon have a body guard ?

* I would love to know what Aunt Jodie is thinking about the way things are turning out between Jon and Kate. $2.00 says neither Jodie or her hubby < Kate's brother > is surprised.

* When the whole Jodie fiasco came out I truly became a little leery of Kate. Seems to me that they need to let the show go and raise their kids.But now that Kate has tasted fame I imagine their is no going back to simply being a Nurse and Mom.
* Jon is truly a follower and seems lost.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Also, after the family went on the ski trip and Jon found out that Cara had some natural talent and love for winter sports, they buy a vacation home there? Jon and Cara then take a trip without the rest of the family. My initial thought was wow, how nice that Dad and daughter are bonding. But I also thought, who would spend all that money to buy a vacation place for just 2 out of 10 family members?

It's almost like that vacation began the rebirth of Jon's single years (when he backpacked across Europe and was a ski bum) and he began distancing himself from his responsibilities as a father of 8. Where were the papparazzi during THAT trip? I don't recall ever seeing any photos of their vacation alone.

While Kate has ALWAYS been critical and anal, I now think back to the last year's episodes and see a different Jon. Not the meek "I can't do anything right" sort of person, but a man who was "put out" and pretty impatient with those kids on their trips. He smiled very infrequently if you think back.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 5:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Yup, Jon has looked miserable for a while. Nurses can always find work. But I don't think getting out of showbiz will make a difference. It's all about love and respect and working on the marriage regardless how you make your income.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 5:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Just a word about nurses in this locale - I know several who work 2 twelve hour shifts and are paid for 40 hours AND receive FT benefits!

Sometimes kids are better served by a divorce than all the stress some marriages seem to have. I have friends whose parents "stayed together for the kids" who still feel sorry about the years of unhappiness their parents went through -

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Kate seems to be criticized for alledgedly loving the limelight. Perhaps another way to look at it is she is trying to provide for her family. Jon was unemployed when the babies were first born, and Kate worked. Jon quit his job fairly quickly after the show became popular, and Kate wrote the book and started speaking engagements. I think she has done a better job of trying to financially provide for her family than Jon has.

Lori32
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07-04-2008

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lori32 a private message Print Post    
It's kind of weird how all this unfolds,that many of us posters seem to be having the same "flashbacks". I also have been looking back. For instance,I remember on the special where Kate received the plastic surgery,he was on camera saying "we haven't had a vacation in years".to which the crew member said,well this isn't a vacation,to which he replied"Well for me it will be". Also in both specials he was very critical of Kate's appearance."Oh she was blonde and hot when I met her,now this is what I have" A lot of things were said over the course of their time on TLC,and I think we all just let it roll off because we thought it was even. Looking back now,Jon was never as innocent as we thought. Also,I think TLC edited him as a victim for ratings,because in our society most people do need a villain and so they painted Kate as one. There are too many occasions he wasn't so nice and meek,too many for me to quote here.Maybe all of you can jog your memories and post your thoughts. As I have stated before,there is never an excuse for cheating.

OH!! In addition,does anyone remember when a viewer asked where the grandparents were? And they both remarked it was "best for their family" that they weren't a big role in their lives? I have NEVER heard Kate mention her parents,so one has to wonder what kind of damage was inflicted early on to make her such a strong (even overbearing) person. Could explain a lot about the brother and hers relationship also.JMO

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I think we need a King Solomon here. This can of worms needs a wise head to unravel the mess.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Lori, one time Kate mentioned that her parents were extremely strict while she was growing up, and Jon's weren't strict enough. I'm sure that their upbringings play a role in how they manage stress, discipline the children, and generally run a household of 8 children.

Yes, I feel Kate has always been shown at her worst and "poor Jon" got treated like another of her children. I have always felt that Jon needed to man up and say, "hey, I'm your husband, not your child" and it would have been interesting to see how that went. Instead, he would roll his eyes for the camera, all the while doing things "his way" when Kate wasn't around.

I have never said that Kate was an angel, but I have seen so many times where she is really sweet with the kids and laughs at their funny antics. The diary room talks show that she knows each of her children so well, and while frustrated with Mady sometimes, we don't see her treating her badly. Mady stomps off, and where I might have chased her down or yelled at her, Kate remains calm with her and only shows her frustration to the camera. I think she's a great Mom.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
I remember the episode when they were walking in the woods by their new house, just Jon and the little kids and some of the kids were not having too much fun. One of the little boys had a stick and Jon said if he did something with that stick he would take it away from him. Well kids being kids, the little boy did the thing again and Jon not only took the stick away but broke it right in front of the little boy who then started crying and was so upset and Jon just told them all to keep walking through the woods. He did give him a new stick much later but I will never forget that and it just left a bad taste in my mouth. It was a time when Kate was out of town so he was having to entertain the kids on their own. He has to remember these were just four year olds.

Videomic
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04-15-2009

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Videomic a private message Print Post    
Saw a commercial that they are to be on Good Morning America, Friday morning

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
On inside edition tonight, I think it was Kates Brother (not sure) saying how the cameras had a hard time catching enough footage when they wernt fighting (sigh) Inside edition said something about Kate and her Body Guard being VERY close! I'm so over the trash mags and news crap. I like the show and I will watch it and what happens in there private life I am not going to Judge!

Northstar
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09-29-2008

Thursday, May 14, 2009 - 9:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northstar a private message Print Post    
I just know I'd miss Aaden and Alexis if the show ended. Maybe Dateline would do a "Where are they now?" Special now and again.

I do wish them well. But ya know, a Passive-Aggressive and a Controller...it's a combination that takes place more than we realize. Just look around.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, May 15, 2009 - 6:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
This morning I ran into this little story. It kind of reminds me of what goes on in the media and elsewhere for the Gosslins...damned if they do, damned if they don't:

C. T. Studd, (1860-1931) the famed English missionary who served God in China, India, and Africa, once remarked: "Remember the miller's donkey. The miller, son and donkey went to the market. The miller rode the donkey all the way and people exclaimed, 'Cruel man, riding himself and making his son walk.' So he got down and his son rode; then people slanged, 'What a lazy son for riding while poor old father walks.' Then both father and son rode, and people then said, 'Cruelty to animals, poor donkey.' So they got down and carried the donkey on a pole, but folks said, 'Here are two asses carrying another ass.' Then all three walked and people said, 'What fools to have a donkey and not ride it.'

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, May 15, 2009 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
ain't that the truth OG!!!!