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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 2:10 pm
IF he is cheating, he will really regret that decision. Can you even imagine the child support he would have to pay? Life as he knows it will be over...kaput.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 2:14 pm
Guess he could handle only so much of Kate's henpecking. Not that I am excusing him one bit. Just saying, the lack of respect that Kate had for him certainly could not have helped their relationship.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 2:18 pm
If it's true, it makes me very sad. I always hate to see a marriage fall apart. Those kids really love their daddy and all the time they get to spend with him.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - 4:50 pm
If this is true I'm sad but not surprised. Being married 2 decades, myself, I can say that it's never a good idea to put your romantic relationship on the back burner. I but guess that's easy for me to say since I only have 2 kids. With 8 it would be easy to forget about romantic love. But no matter how many kids or how much stress- treating your husband the way the way does or at least the way she does on the TV version of their life, well Jon's not a saint but close to it. I can see him being happy without Kate who routinely treat him like crap, from what they show us on their TV show..
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 6:40 am
ET made a big deal of it last night. I pray they get help for their marriage and get over this bump.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 6:48 am
So does the way Kate treats Jon make it something she deserves, or give Jon an acceptable reason to be out making headlines? I just don't see Kate as the evil ogre some of you do, nor do I see Jon as this poor abused husband. Kate was somewhere promoting her new book. SHE is the one who keeps the family gravy train running. She has written two books and handled all of the promotion that goes along with their success. For Jon to have gone out partying (yet to be seen, but it sure is getting suspicious) while she is bringing in the money to maintain their lifestyle, just isn't right.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 6:56 am
I find it interesting that these situations seem to come up whenever Kate is out of town. Isn't that the same as you see with a teenager who is kept on a tight leash? As soon as the parents turn their backs... the kids rebel? Kate treats him like a child and he reacts by behaving like one. That's the optics for me but having said that, I don't blame Kate (assuming it's true which we don't know yet). Jon is really passive/aggressive which would drive me up the wall too and I can easily see myself treating him the same way that Kate does. It's a really immature cop-out and must be frustrating for her to have to deal with. Kate has enough with 8 kids, the house, the show, etc.... she needs a partner not another child. Another common denominator seems to be alcohol. If Jon knows he behaves poorly when drinking then perhaps he should consider NOT DRINKING. The part that kills me though is the kids. You KNOW there will be at least one classmate who will ask the older girls about their dad at the hotel with the woman. Whether true or not, it won't matter at that point. Exactly why I felt the show had fulfilled it's original premise and it's time to stop production. I know it's hard to let go the money, the perks, etc but it's time Kate, it's time.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 8:54 am
Usually when you see someone 'putting up' with behavior from one spouse (ie: the way kate sometimes speaks to jon) there is a pay off for the spouse taking it. a person doesn't dramatically change their personality after marriage or after children (now 8 kids under 6 may certianly magnify things). Jon knew Kate's personality. He allows her to speak to him that way.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 2:24 pm
Very disappointing news. Doesn't mean he was cheating though. Still...very disappointing.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 2:41 pm
Gawd. I have many male friends, and yes, I go out with them sometimes, with and without my husband. And I get into their cars sometimes too! Guess I'm a cheater.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 2:49 pm
Yankee, you are! LOL Our only difference is that when we go out with male friends, we don't have hundreds of cameras following us.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 2:52 pm
I pray that is what it is, and it is very sad that he is prejudged and the worse is thought. i don't think many cut the Gosselin's much slack.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 3:02 pm
I hope nobody thinks I am prejudging Jon! I have loved watching this family and know if by some chance it is true, it will be very very hard on those children. I'd bet no matter where he goes, someone with a camera will be stalking him, it seems to be that way already. They might want to rethink the big house and the estate type of location, and get back to something they can afford in the suburbs. Now that the sextuplets are in kindergarten, seems like Kate and Jon could both get back to normal jobs and get away from the media for a while. I think most of us would be o.k. with an occasional J & K + Eight TV special!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 3:06 pm
Well, there is just too much we don't really know. I am not even .0001% jealous, so if my dh did that, I would NOT care, HOWEVER. We do have kids, SO now I would care!! Because I would not want him galavanting around when it may result in him having a headache the next day or not being able to pitch in as much. AND the most important thing is what Rissa said. Don't tell me that his twins are not gonna hear about this and, in turn, worry. It is one thing when you don't have kids. A whole different story when you do.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 4:38 pm
I was watching the show the other day and a thought occured to me. While they love being on the show, they dislike the whole process but in different ways. Kate needs order in her life. Having the camera crews (or green work crews) disrupts the order. Jon wants privacy. I think Kate is willing to put up with the disruptions to her order, because she does enjoy the perks, and her gritching is the way she handles it. Jon loves all the perks too so it will be interesting to see how Jon handles the whole privacy issue, because he really seems to be struggling with it of late.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 6:20 pm
How old are the twins?
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 6:40 pm
I have watched this show from the very beginning and I have really enjoyed watching the kids growing up. They are all so cute and have different personalities. I have always liked both Kate and Jon, but I must say I have been bothered by the way Kate treats Jon in front of the cameras. If this is how she acts when the cameras are on, I am sure that she does the same when the cameras are off. She always puts him down, even in front of the kids. She has called him stupid, and even told the kids to not pay attention to him. She treats him like a dumb child and she constantly puts him down and as far as I am concerned that is verbal abuse. If a man did that to his wife, everyone would be screaming at him. While I do not condone a man cheating on his wife (if he actually is) I can almost understand him being terribly frustrated by her actions. People are making fun of her in front of him and I am sure he is embarrassed. This whole thing is such a shame and I hope that it's not true. The real losers will be those children.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-05-2007
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 7:16 pm
This probably won't be a popular post as it seems people are passionate about Jon and Kate for both liking and disliking them. (I think we can all agree that we love the kiddos) but that being said.... Maybe these are just really two unhappily married people? I have never liked the way she spoke to Jon. I hate the stuff I see him out doing or what it is perceived he is doing. It makes me wonder if maybe it isn't her personality as we excuse it being or not him acting out to being treated that way. Maybe they are just miserable together and are unable to even fake it. I don't wish divorce on anyone but that being said some people are not meant to be married. I realize that yes, the children would be sad. But, I am a teacher and trust me children are sad to be products of miserable marriages as well. I have seen many kids finally get peace after a divorce, because all the fighting and meanness stops. None of us really know, I certainly don't. But in my head if I try to figure any of it out, it makes more sense to me. Hopefully they can find happiness; if that is together, great, if it is not meant to be I hope they can move on peacefully. Everyone involved deserves happiness.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 7:21 pm
I agree Stacey, but I'm not sure which is worse: the thought of Kate as my wife or the thought of her as my ex-wife. 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 7:28 pm
They will be 9 on October 8, Jimmer. The octuplets sextuplets will be 5 on Mothers Day.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 8:04 pm
I probably confused you Jimer, I get tickled and amazed to think they DID have 8 kids under 6 or another way to put it 2 six year olds and 6 two year olds. but they are older now! LOL
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 8:19 pm
Seamonkey, I think you mean Sextuplets Too much ocotomom info out there
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 30, 2009 - 10:52 pm
ACK!! Indeed!!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Friday, May 01, 2009 - 4:55 am
Brenda: I agree Stacey, but I'm not sure which is worse: the thought of Kate as my wife or the thought of her as my ex-wife.RFLOL!! Stacey, that's the reason I stopped posting in here... I am not at all passionate about any of them. Don't mean that cruelly. I used to watch the show because the family was interesting and original. Now I don't watch the show because I just don't like either of the parents and after awhile all kids get repetitive. LOL The only thing about the show that affects my blood pressure at all is the way Maddy's growing pains gets coverage. She's a little girl who gets attacked and ridiculed (online) because she is a little difficult and I have no doubt that if she doesn't hear about it now.... she will eventually. That &$*%&$'s me off.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, May 01, 2009 - 2:18 pm
If what is in the article is true I have a problem with that. The reason is that Jon is a public figure with public figure children and a public marriage. He may wish it isn't so, but it is. I do not think that type of behavior is OK because of the effect it will have on the kids. The twins are in school and the others are in preschool. Certainly the twins are going to hear about it. It is not the same situation as Jon being in a bar taking a picture with some fans. I also do not think he is being a good role model going out drinking late at night with a woman and if he was kissing someone other than Kate, of course that is not ok. No matter how badly he is or feels that he is treated by Kate. (other than the Toys R Us incident several yrs. ago, I don't remember him ever complaining about how Kate treats him). Parents need to realize that they are not just raising their own kids, they are raising the people who will be the parents of their grandchildren. When you are a celebrity, you need to think of your kids more than ever. When you become a parent, you can't do all the selfish independent things you could before you had children. Jon has a duty to protect those kids from negative public comments. He can prevent that from happening by not drinking in public. He doesn't have to give up his friends but he is the one who decided to become a person on tv. He needs to change his life now that he has done that. You can't unring the bell even if you want to. I'm not being very articulate in this post. Sorry. I just really hate that the twins especially are going to have to hear about this in school. No matter how much J&K may reassure them, it is nothing they should even have to deal with. They are little girls. The sextuplets may not have to deal with it now, kids in preschool don't tend to gossip about stuff like this, but they will be in school in the fall and may have to deal with it then. Even though I spoke about Jon, I also think Kate at times is not a good role model with the way she belittles Jon for nothing that matters like breathing too loudly. I also think that most of the time, what we see on the show is good parenting by both of them. They may not be as relaxed as the Hayes or Duggars, but I do think overall J&K are good parents and loving toward their kids and each other (in the earlier eps.)
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