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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:08 pm
I watched that, too Mgmriver...It was hilarious...LOL They went live to it for the last 10 minutes of Olbermann last night. Heck, for the President to acknowledge your existence, you know you made the big time 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:23 pm
I think sometimes people like to evaluate situations as right or wrong. It is comforting to think that someone did something right or that at least someone did it better. It's harder accept that there could be two wrongs as it appears in this situation jimmer, i also think people want a reason to make themselve feel better or somehow immune. when someone dies in a car accident, isn't the first question we ask 'were they wearing their seatbelt?'. if someone gets lung cancer, we ask 'did they smoke?'. when my dh had his heart attack, our friends asked about his blood pressure, cholesterol ect. we want to find out what that other person did in effect to 'blame' them for their disease, divorce, accident and to reassure ourselves it won't happen to us.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:36 pm
You know, I remember when that Hawaii renewal show came up I thought it was odd. The whole idea of the vow renewal seemed odd and off to me. It would have made sense if it was their ten year anniversary, but it clearly wasn't. At the time I just told myself I was imagining it, but I see now that it "didn't smell right".
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:38 pm
Yes I agree that it is a defensive reaction. You see it all the time. People like to find a "reason" for why bad things happen as it makes them feel more in control of their destiny. I think there are plenty of reasons to be found for Jon & Kate. However, bad things often happen by pure chance and for no discernible reason. That is very discomforting to people who have been educated from a very early age about the importance of finding order and patterns in life.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:41 pm
Dipo, I recently caught some rerun of a show about picking out wedding dresses, and lo and behold Kate was one of guests that week picking out her renewal gown. She didn't seem at all like a happy excited bride type. She was just concerned about looking skinny.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 1:41 pm
Bottom line (and it does not matter if Kate is a shrew or Jon is immature) is that these parents and TLC are letting the kids suffer HUGELY by keeping this show on -- which, in turn, keeps the public interested in them and results in the family getting hounded by photographers and their privacy invaded and 42,000 youtubes, etc... All for the almighty dollar. Sickening if ya think about it too much, really.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:05 pm
perspective is so funny, i have seen that episode of "Say Yes to the Dress" several times and have always thought how low key, calm, and funny Kate was.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:07 pm
Yes, it is funny, Tex. And funny is definitely not a word I would use to describe Kate, ever.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:09 pm
There is a half hour program on after while with 'experts' giving us their take on the situation.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:12 pm
Just checked: It is on TVGN at 6PM DirecTV time on the west coast.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:25 pm
really Naja? you didn't think she was funny when she was with the American Chopper guys, especially with Mikey in the nail salon?
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:25 pm
FROM ET ONLINE: In new clips from Monday night's episode of "Jon & Kate Plus 8," Jon and Kate Gosselin discuss more of their "life-changing decisions." "People think I've changed," says Jon. "And I have changed, but I'm now the person I know I am." A somber Kate, interviewed separately, comments about the duo's marriage, saying: "It doesn't matter where Jon and I are in our relationship. My kids still matter the most to me." The mother of eight goes on to say: "We can't go back now. We can only go forward -- and that's what we're gonna do. And we're gonna learn a lot going forward, and I know that we'll all come out of this on the other side, hopefully, stronger, better, wiser."
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:31 pm
Tex, I thought the chopper Mikey guy was funny, and Kate laughed. She wasn't funny herself. Although I was amused that she could laugh when he asked for "US Weekly", but that didn't make her funny. It made him funny.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:33 pm
That TV guide show is showing as the same rerun they are showing today and several times until then. Is it a series or the same show being shown over and over?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:44 pm
wow..naja..you're tough! LOL i guess I didn't mean funny as in George Carlin, just funny as in 'light hearted, easy to laugh'
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 2:49 pm
LOL, I actually have grown to like Kate no matter how I may sound talking about her. I didn't start out liking her at all.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 4:42 pm
The mother of eight goes on to say: "We can't go back now. We can only go forward -- and that's what we're gonna do. And we're gonna learn a lot going forward, and I know that we'll all come out of this on the other side, hopefully, stronger, better, wiser." Gosh, that sounds encouraging, but I'm not going to pin my hopes that it means they are going into counseling to save their marriage. It could mean anything. Re the Jon not cooking, I keep reading they now have a chef, so I guess at this point, it's not that big a deal. Jon is def. passive agressive and so many men like that pick strong women like Kate for their partners. I think he's rebelling a bit now because Kate told him it's over and perhaps he feels he didn't get to decide. However, I'm sure she kept giving him hints. Even if they are divorcing, perhaps TLC will have them go to counseling for the children's sakes in the future. I was surprised to read a family member talk about how TLC would call Kate and tell her what the theme for the week was. Kind of like 'acting' in your own partnership and parenting. I could see where that might cause problems.
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 5:30 pm
I quit watching the show. I have watched since the beginning and loved watching the kids grow up. But this show is no longer about the kids its about Jon and Kate. I am not sure who said this but they said that Jon and Kate say everything they do is for their kids, and if that were true they wouldn't be airing their dirty laundry for all the world to see. They should have ended the show, but no Kate loves the fame and money and that is what is most important to her now. She used to be such a down to earth person. She has let it all go to her head now. Has anyone noticed that she doesn't have any friends anymore. Her family has nothing to do with her. Why, because they are jealous, I don't think that is it at all. I know this is not a popular statement but it is my take on this and I think that she drove Jon away. He has always been a very hands on Dad with his kids. When Kate had a project to do in the house, he took the kids outside. When Jon had a project to do in the house like redoing the attic to make more bedrooms, building shelves in the garage, taking down the cribs and putting up the bunk beds did she keep the kids away from him....heck no. I started out really liking her and I now have a big dislike for her. She has treated Jon horrible for years and if all he did was make a few comments and make a few faces, heck, I would have told her where to go a long time ago. Also I never once heard him tell his kids not to listen to Mommy because she is mean, but I have heard that more than once from her. Ok that is my rant and now I will slink away.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 6:15 pm
Little Aaden got hurt today and had to go to the hospital. He looks so sweet with his little bandage. He's ok. http://justjared.buzznet.com/2009/06/20/359391/
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 8:11 pm
More time apart Mama Kate Gosselin apparently is getting in some alone time this weekend. She took off by herself so that the kids (all eight of them) could spend Father’s Day weekend with Jon. The above is quoted from the article linked about. Countrydaze-you said what I have wanted to say for a lont time. Now I will slink away with you 
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 8:47 pm
Team Countrydaze and Kellsma. Whoo Hoo! What mother of eight do you know who dresses in mini skirts every day, has time to tan and get her hair done every week or so. She used to be a normal mom, now she is Miss Hollywood. Fame and money took over.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 8:51 pm
Exactly Sherbabe. And when SHE got more Hollywood, she was embarrassed to have a husband who couldn't speak in perfectly formed sentences. How many times did we see Kate embarrassed and scolding Jon in the diaries when he wasn't speaking perfectly? I felt so badly for him.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 8:55 pm
Tv Guide channel is airing some show, taking about the fate of Kate and Jon and saying they will announce their separation on Monday and will file divorce papers in the following week. Looking at those photos of Jon with the little boy with the bandage over his eye is reminding me of Kramer vs Kramer when the little boy fell on the playground and got a gash above his eye. Then when the dad was on the stand, the mom's lawyer went after him, saying the child almost lost an eye while in his care. I hope this doesn't turn into a custody battle.
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 9:42 pm
Haha Sherbabe, feeling the love 
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Saturday, June 20, 2009 - 9:47 pm
COuntrydaze, I agree with you wholeheartedly! I stopped watching also. First of all, all the real people (family and friends) disappeared from the show. Then they started throwing birthday parties with no relatives. Then Kate started dressing in designer duds and Dad drives a two seater sports car. All of that has nothing to do with the original premise of two parents struggling to raise eight kids. I believe they do shoot 'theme of the week' be/c there is nothing to do but shoot staged scenes. TLC is losing ratings and may try a stop-gap measure or may cut all ties for now. Who knows. TLC stands for Totally Lost Control. This show is hurting their image as family-friendly tv. Have the DUggars gone Hollywood...no. Kate and JOn seem like spoiled brats, not down-to-earth people.
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