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Stacey718995
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07-05-2007

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
Debbie has no clue how she is burying herself. As much as we all talk about this network and feel like we know it, I feel like we can almost guarantee that Debbie isn't going to win. If this was a Debbie win they would have edited out all of her questionable integrity stuff. FN doesn't want that reputation.

I am for a Jeffrey win but would be ok with a Melissa one as well though.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Debbie dropped down for me bigtime last night. What were her other "transgressions"? I think someone mentioned that this was her third one.

I know one was in the first (or near the first) episode when she said she came in on budget. But did they even have a choice--don't they have no choice but to spend a certain amount or less? Or was it that she just skipped some key ingredients for others but made sure to get her stuff???

Another question/observation. Why do they make this stuff so lopsided at times? Deb had the luxury to spend so much time on her dish while Michael had to tend bar and leave his dishes to fate... Now I'm not arguing that M should have stayed, he was destined to get booted from the getgo as he hated the cameras. BUT, it did not make it a very level playing field...

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Julieboo, the first week she and Michael did the shopping for their team and she and Michael managed to get all the ingredients for their dishes but really paid little attention to the ingredients for others...in some cases (Jeffrey) not even getting the main ingredient for his dish...and then she told the team that she was under budget and she in fact had to put stuff back in order to make budget.

In another week she was teamed with (I think it was Teddy) where they each had to create an individual dish and then a joint dish. He was supposed to make the dessert and together they made meatloaf...the meatloaf turned out very well and the dessert was a total mess so he took credit for the meatloaf and tried to pass off the dessert...she called him on it (rightfully) but she put on this big drama act about how she couldn't trust him after his actions...which was kind of sanctimonious to many of us given her earlier actions.

Not to mention the fact that she acted like Michael slammed into her with the tray coming out of the oven when in fact she walked up behind him without letting him know she was coming...oh my the drama!

I haven't seen last night's episode but I think that she made a huge mistake in working on her own dishest to the exclusion of the others that she was supposed to be assisting on. It was a team exercise and she didn't work well with the others apparently.

She seems to turn a blind eye to her own faults while loving to point out others.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Yes, in the first episode Debbie made sure to purchase each and every thing she needed, but others - like Jeffrey BIG TIME - lacked several key ingredients.

Another time she tried to duck responsibility for a dish the judges disliked, claiming it was solely her teammate's dish - which it WAS NOT!

Both Jamika and Melissa tried to do the best they could on the line last night. Four plating tasks for one and five for the other are VASTLY different from two. Debbie agreed to be running the kitchen - she absolutely did not make any moves in that direction that I saw. The "head honcho" should have seen that the tasks were evenly divided EVEN IF her own dishes suffered. The only person on Debbie's team is Debbie!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The first episode she was NOT under budget when she first went thru checkout. So she tossed out ingredients requested by the other chefs (but not any of hers), so that the total WAS within the budget. Then she showed up in the kitchen and told everyone she was right on budget, but didn't explain why she didn't include everyone else's entire list.

There was a dessert thing twice with her too. The one time she had someone use storebought angel food cake. The second time was with storebought pudding mix. Both times the dessert was a flop, but she didn't take credit that she pawned off the idea to someone else.

Then she had the gall to whine about integrity, when she is clearly lacking same.

The final straw, though, was last night. I didn't see her acting "selfless" at all. In fact, she never did anything for any one else at all. And on top of that, she was supposed to be the expediter, and I didn't see her expedite anything. Except her own stuff. I didn't really even see her look up at all until she had to serve.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 1:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Are you my long-lost twin sister, Costa?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL! Maybe cousins? :-)

At any rate, it appears we are sharing a single brain! :-)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 3:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
thanks for the info Costa, TNT and Roxip!! She started out so good, but she totally fell off my "like" list!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 3:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I didn't really like her from the beginning, because of the incident with the "budget." Then I saw the judges really liked her and tried to get her "another chance." But she kept doing the same thing over and over again, esp. with the "I'm Korean but I was raised in the south...". Bleah.

After this week, though? She's not even anywhere near my "like" list!

Serate
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08-21-2001

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
Just got done watching last nights show and was going to post about it, but all I can say is What Costa said.

The only way I will vote for a winner is if Debbie is in the final 2, and it will be AGAINST her!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I was sad to see Michael go because I found him very entertaining - flambouyant works for me! However, he was not in love with the camera, and you have to be that to be a TV personality.

I have heard Paula Deen say that she talks to the camera as if it were her best girlfriend! I am not a Paula show fan, but I do find her to come across as friendly and relaxed and enjoying herself.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
ok - where is my rant about Debbie? I know I posted it! Gad - I think Food Network is trying to be so PC - and I think they want ethnic diversity in this show -because of the pass they have given to Debbie - its just so not working for me!

I know Debbie has credentials - but I see Michael having a better tv persona over her- maybe its just me, a uber white old lady...

Landileigh
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07-29-2002

Monday, July 13, 2009 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landileigh a private message Print Post    
i think Melissa wins it. Have you seen Bob just GUSH over her? he ADORES her! and Susie is right behind him on it! She's been my fave since the beginning and i'm so glad she's toning down the perkiness. Rachel Ray used to be much more hyper than she is now.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think my problem with Michael is he was a sterotyped caricature. I live in a gay 'hood and most of the gay men I know don't appreciate the flamboyance that Michael seems to need to show. I think that's why I thought he was fake. It was like "oh, I have to have a lot of personality so I'll dial it up a thousand percent" but it was too fake to be believable. I might have liked him had he toned it down some, but Bob Tushman seemed to love him and encouraged him.

There is no way Debbie will win this thing now. Not after how she's been portrayed. I don't care if they've never had a Korean slash southern cook on their network.

FWIW, it's not Rachel Ray's "perkiness" that bothers me. It is everything else, though.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I just never warmed up to Michael because he did seem rather stereotypical, and he didn't seem to take a lot of pride in his personal appearance. I wouldn't care to watch him in a cooking show despite the fact that he seemed to be a really good cook. I might love him in person but I just am not sure I would care that much for him on a television show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
His personal appearance was another reason I didn't like Michael.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Okay, Michael really fell down a few notches for me on watching his exit interview on the foodnetwork website...talk about self-aggrandizement!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
A link, Roxip?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Try this LINK. He thinks he didn't deserve to be in the bottom blah blah blah. Apparently, he thinks the fact that he has a personality should be enough. Nothing about the fact that his personality is basically obnoxious. And more blah blah blah. (Gotta say, the man has an ego that I don't understand why he has.)

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 5:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Costa -

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm clueless about links...sorry...thanks COSTA!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
No problem. Funnily enough, that vid pretty much showed exactly why I didn't like him.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I do agree with him that he "brought it" to the viewers...the exact reason why I wouldn't watch his show...I realize that he probably has a low sense of self-esteem which is why he feels the need to tell everyone how great he was, but that doesn't make for great viewing.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Well, Jamika really brought that boot upon herself this week. She had been getting progressively more unhappy and saying she was pissed off is never a good idea.

At this point it seems like a fait accompli that Jeffrey is going to win (I had to scroll up because I couldn't even remember his name!), but I can't see myself watching his show. All of them are pretty meh. I just watch the show at this point to see how Debbie can try to scam the judges and to see Melissa turn hysterical.

Jhezzie
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07-05-2001

Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 7:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhezzie a private message Print Post    
Why do they keep rewarding Debbie? She's got an almost shady ethic, yet they keep her there. They're not going to hire her. She annoys everyone. They liked Jamika, even though she won't win either. Reward the nice person who is trying.