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Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 11:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I think in life you have to pick your battles, certainly. But I don't think that you can just assume that your kids will eat well when they are away from you for the first time. Do we see Kate checking the twins' lunchboxes every day? No, it's not an issue. However, setting out the rules at the beginning and checking that they are being enforced, at the beginning, is much more effective than trying to resolve the problem later on. My mentor teacher told me 20+ years ago...Start as you mean to go on. We have 3 and 4 year olds that walk out of class and just hand off everything to their parents. We'll stop them and make the kids hold their own things. Parents are always so thankful and we get told time and again how their older ones just come and dump their things on the parents, which we see all the time. Don't let bad habits develop, which is what I think Kate is trying to do.

Alison's school does the same thing! Her teacher will tell me, she can put on her own coat, her own shoes etc. Nothing wrong with making kids responsible and do things for themselves.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think it is great for kids to eat well-balanced meals. However, I don't like the idea of bargaining or rewarding by withholding or providing dessert depending on if the child has eaten all of her main course. For one thing, it implies that the main course isn't good enough to just enjoy and eat without some sort of reward and that the dessert is something special to be treasured. I think that sends the wrong message.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Lexie, they adore her. Even tho the boys are older and away from home, they still go on family vacations together. My friend, along with her OCD, is one of the funniest and most gregarious people I know. Like their father, they have learned to put less emphasis on the troubling parts of her personality, and more on the engaging parts.


Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I thought you guys would be talking about the show officially ending in November! Jon withdrew his approval of the kids being filmed and they only have film enough til mid or end of November. TLC is probably tired of all their drama and the ratings are going down any way.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I agree Supergranny aboutTLC being glad to be finished with the show. It brought TLC gigantic revenues and now bad press. I see a lot of bad press for TLC. Many articles about the messy divorce refer to TLC in a bad light. TLC will cut their losses and move on to focusing on getting another run away hit.

The whole lunch conversation is meaningless because as I stated before I think it was scripted and that in real life Kate won't care too much about their lunches and probably will have the nannies fix the bag lunch. Much of Kate's parenting that we see is written and scripted. She's playing a roll. The reason the kids might like the cameras there is because mom actually pays attention to them when the cameras are there. Just my opinion, none of us are in the house and see Jon and Kate when the cameras aren't around. And a few glimpses we've seen when she thought the cameras weren't on her, like the water incidence shows a clearer and more accurate perspective of her parenting.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I thought you guys would be talking about the show officially ending in November! Jon withdrew his approval of the kids being filmed and they only have film enough til mid or end of November. TLC is probably tired of all their drama and the ratings are going down any way.

Interesting! Where did you hear/read this, Supergranny? I hadn't heard. Is Kate's supposed talk show w/Paula Dean for sure? I read that she had something lined up for 2010...is that it?

Yesterday, in an article stating that Jon emerged from the Courthouse with his attorney and Kate with her 'bodygards' I was surprised. Why does she need bodyguards..plural? Has someont threatened her or something? Couldn't that money be better spent feeding her children? I wonder how long she'll be able to keep these bodyguards.

If Jon has to return $180,000, where is his income since the divorce? Will he be able to get it from money Kate has hidden? She's going after alimony and child support. How is she going to get that when he doesn't even have a job?

If he wanted, he could get alimony from her from her book sales and if she gets a talk show.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
In trying to find info re the show cancellation, I came across this:

Kate is Hiding a Million Dollars

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Spreadsheet of Accounts created by Husband's counsel within twenty (20) days of the date of the Award. These withdrawals totaled over $1,000,000 between February 2008 and June 2009

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The court document goes on to say that Kate has not been making her regular $7,500 monthly payments into another account that the couple uses to pay day-to-day expenses. Because of these two items, Jon believes that Kate "is continuing to hide marital funds."

I am really confused now. Jon kept saying on ET last week that they both had to put $7500 into an account for the household expenses and bills; however, is that the account that he got in trouble for taking money from? I thought the account in question was the one that only Kate could access for household bills?

Jon said they had about 11 accounts. I guess so. Very confusing. If they have a separate account for the household bills, then what is it that Kate is allowed to pay from the account that started all this rucus???

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
FROM ETONLINE:

Kate Gosselin says she believes the court ruled fairly and sets the record straight about her family funds in a new statement to ET:

"As difficult as this has been for me, I am pleased that the Court has ruled fairly on behalf of myself and my children," Kate says. "Now that this matter has been ruled on, I look forward to returning to private arbitration, as we have agreed to do, to resolve any remaining issues."

Her attorney Mark Momjian touches on financial specifics, saying, "In response to an emergency application filed by Kate Gosselin on October 5, 2009, the Honorable Arthur R. Tilson of the Montgomery County Court of Common Pleas entered an Order today directing Jon Gosselin to return $180,000 in marital funds, which he removed in violation of an arbitrator's order. Mr. Gosselin must repay this sum by on or before October 26, 2009, and if he fails to do so, he must appear before the Court for contempt proceedings. The remaining sum of $55,000, which Ms. Gosselin used for household bills and expenses relating to the children, will be subject to further determination by the arbitrator at a later date. The Judge also ordered Ms. Gosselin to provide an accounting of past expenses also by October 26."

After their court meeting, her estranged husband Jon told ET: "We weren't supposed to take money out of the restrictive account and we both did. I was found in contempt for doing so, I didn't realize, I was just like taking my paycheck out."

Posted October 14, 2009 9:07:00 AM

Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I tried to put up the url but it is on radaronline.com

Kittyab
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07-15-2005

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittyab a private message Print Post    
I dont let Alison have her desert if she don't eat much of her dinner. If you are still hungry you eat real food in my house.

Now saying all this, last night I was too tired to cook. We just had our Thanksgiving dinner on Monday (canada), I said we can have pie for dinner lol! But I made them myself!

Onlyhuman
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08-04-2001

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Onlyhuman a private message Print Post    
After their court meeting, her estranged husband Jon told ET: "We weren't supposed to take money out of the restrictive account and we both did. I was found in contempt for doing so, I didn't realize, I was just like taking my paycheck out."
So, when Jon went on all the talk shows and said that Kate was lying, and he waved around his 22K withdrawal slip saying that that was all he took, he just didn't KNOW he wasn't supposed to take the money? In all that time, he and his lawyers never stopped to check if he had actually done something wrong?

Maybe Jon needs a better lawyer.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Pie for dinner!! That is every kids' dream!! Actually we don't even have dessert. Not to say we don't have snacks, but when we eat, it's just the meal. I don't ever want to use food as any kind of a reward, punishment, or motivator.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
OMG, Kate's lawyer is Mark Momjian? I know his daughter Carol! (she's also a lawyer and really lovely and kind) Mr Momjian is quite the lawyer, that's for sure.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Tish, now you are gonna have posters here begging you to get them autographs!!!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I had a brain fart. Mark is Carol's brother. Her father is Albert and he's the divorce lawyer legend.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, October 14, 2009 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Tishala, I read that Mr. Momjian is a 'celebrity' lawyer...you know, for celebrities like Kate. I just don't know what this world is coming to when you have children; they are filmed and you become a 'celebity' as if you were an actor of something, requiring bodyguards and celebrity lawyers.

Sounds like they are a family of lawyers. I'd be very, very curious as to what your friend Carol thinks of Kate if she's met her in person.

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 7:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
,20312930,00.html,No more Jon and Kate Plus 8 After November - According to People

(Sorry Mods, there are commas in the weblink, so the link is messed up)

Kellsma
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08-27-2002

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
The page on People is no longer availabe. Ijust tried to view it 2 minutes after you posted Msbulwnkl. Hmmm, I hope this is true.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I believe that Kate is a good mother. Jon has even stated many times during interviews that she is an excellent mother. I realize that it is great fun to take jabs at people in the public eye but I don't think we've ever seen EITHER of these parents be less than attentive and caring with their children when they are in their presence. Kate can be short and snappish but again, how would we all fare if we were dealing with 8 young children? I feel that the stress of dealing with such a large number has probably made her even more OCD than before but hopefully she can get help for that.

Msbullwnkl
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08-16-2005

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Msbullwnkl a private message Print Post    
IF you go the people.com homepage, the article can be found there. I think because I can't get the link listed right it isn't showing up right.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Does Jon think that he will be a "hot property" if JK+8 no longer exists? He's really not that interesting in the first place...the only reason he's gotten so much publicity is the craziness of the last few months...what is he going to do to support his children in the future? What is Kate going to do? I realize they probably have some money put aside but raising 8 children is bound to be very expensive...how said that this has come to this.

Of course TLC just said JK+8 is canceled...I wonder if down the line there will be another show and this is just a tactic to get them all through the divorce?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I don't think Jon cares or wants to be a "hot property." I think he just wants the spotlight gone.

I have little doubt that they will have no problem supporting themselves. If you took my family and my sister's family, together we will be bringing up 9 kids. I know our combined income (of say 5 years) is WAY WAY WAY less than that of J&K (of one year). And all our kids are happy and very well taken care of. The age ranges are all tight too. So I don't "buy" the "but 8 kids are so expensive" as an argument that they need tons and tons of money.

For fun, just think of how many kids you have, add another family with kids close to your own kids age so that you have a total of 8, (approximate the combined family incomes) and you'll see that it does not take earnings of what TLC was paying them for J&K to support them.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Cancelling the show may be the cleanest way to end those contracts with the family as a married couple. I can see TLC getting together with Kate after the divorce is final and trying to get another show of her and the kids on the air. I'm sure her lawyers and TCL's lawyer are talking in the back room about what kind of legalese she needs to get into the divorce and custody agreement so that she has the freedom to get the kids back on TV and keep that money rolling in!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Ah, but Julie, once you've tasted the life of luxury with free trips and spa visits and body guards and McMansions, do you really think they'll be going back to a 3 bedroom house and summers at the local *public* pool? GASP!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, October 15, 2009 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
From eonline...
TLC confirmed today that the conjunction-utilizing show will end its run in mid to late November, after which it will become the single-mom-touting Kate Plus 8.

Thumbing his nose at the network, Jon also told ET that he will "continue on television" and is "not worried about future employment."

Uhhhhh....doesn't sound like Jon is through with his taste of the spotlight.