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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 2:43 pm
ratings for Monday's back to back new episodes down 61%..... Thank goodness...
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Mindeegap
Member
07-20-2009
| Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 2:50 pm
Kelli, I stopped watching. I can't imagine ever watching again. I was one of those people that always had the reruns on in the background when I was piddling around the house, becaue I love the sound of little ones. Now I keep flicking if I see them. So sad that I can't stomach and won't support this any longer.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 7:37 pm
the one thing i have always admired both parents for is realizing how truly blessed they are that they had 6 healthy babies. this is an article about a woman here pregnant with 6. she's been blogging about her pregnancy in our paper. helps to give a little perspective. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6563605.html
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 11:32 pm
Mindee..., I, too, have stopped watching this show. Neither parent is blameless, but these children do not need to see their parents disfunction played out on national tv for all their schoolmates, relatives, and friends to see. Apparently, we are to believe they are completed shielded from this, but they are not. It's not realistic to believe the children will never be affected by this. Additionally, the show has become one giant set up...lets go to N.C. for free, lets remodel the kitchen for free, by the way...all their groceries are free. I'm not jealous, disgusted that one of my fav. shows has tanked, big time!!!
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, August 07, 2009 - 6:54 pm
Yup, I'm out as a viewer... Marriages fall apart, that's life, but if my parents divorced I don't think I'd want to be able to watch it on YouTube 10 years later... And I really don't think I'd want my friends at school to be able to tune in and watch my latest temper tantrum. I do believe the original premise of filming was to show a bit of how a young couple copes with daily life in a family with 2 sets of multiples... Now it's just a money machine to help them maintain the lifestyle they've now become accustomed to. I'm out before it becomes a show about 8 former child stars..
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Friday, August 07, 2009 - 11:26 pm
When I see people fault Kate for the way she's raising her kids...especially on other boards. It makes me wonder if these people have twins and sextuplets also. In my opinion, unless you've been in her shoes, you can't comment on her parenting skills....or housekeeping skills....or anything else. It's a situation that most of us can't even imagine being in. A house can get out of hand with only two children very quickly. You would HAVE to be very picky with your house and kids just to stay on top of things. To top it off, she's a nurse and a germaphobe. Mom was a germaphobe....it didn't hurt us. I never in my life knew of my grandma to clean house. I was always told it's because she would rather spend her time playing with the kids. I can tell you right now, my Dad was embarassed about the fact he lived in a sty. Yes, she loved her kids and spent a lot of time with them, but they needed more than a playmate. THey needed a parent. I've seen Kate tell those children too many times that she loves them, and I've seen the way she interacts with them. She doesn't neglect them, she doesn't mistreat them. She loves them. She's proud of them. She wants them to look good, be healthy and live in the best environment she can give them. If that makes her a bad person, then I need to call my mother and tell her how terrible she is. As for the girlfriends....even now going through a divorce myself, I personally believe it's best to actually get the divorce before dating. It's just my personal opinion.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 4:19 am
I'm out before it becomes a show about 8 former child stars.. LOL!! But it is very sadly true...
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 7:11 am
I'm out before it becomes a show about 8 former child stars.. Sadly, I think it just might turn out to be this way if the way the kids love to ham it up for the camera is any indication...
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 7:48 am
I think there is a difference between "hamming it up for the camera" and interacting with the camera man and sound guy. Does anyone really think these little kids are doing it to get air time? I don't. I think they are doing it for attention. They are "performing" in the way all kids perform. Bring out a video camera and most kids will either put on a show or run and hide. Though they've grown up with it, the kids are no different. If they do something cute while filming, no doubt the adults encourage them by smiling and nodding. So the kids continue to try to do those things. They aren't hamming it up because they want their "screen time" they are doing it because it's what kids do.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 10:09 am
That's what I think too, onlyhuman. My daughter when she was about 4 or 5 would join in anyone's picture when she saw one being taken! It was rather embarrassing when traveling on vacation one time and we looked up and saw her posing in a group wedding photo! LOL heck, look at facebook...teens still love to ham it up for pics!
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 9:17 pm
Hm, perhaps, but when you consider how many child stars have wrecked their lives once the cameras stopped filming it just makes one wonder if this is really healthy for them...freebies or no freebies.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 9:34 pm
I think there is a big difference at least for now between what they are doing and child actors who have to go act on a set and be schooled on a set, do hair and makeup, learn lines.. or chld models.. er.. well Jon has his signts set on making them that, but hopefully not. And so far no child entertainers a la Stevie Wonder or Michael Jacksono in this bunch.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:20 am
I haven't read too many posts bashing Kate or Jon's parenting skills. I think it's pretty much agreed that they love the kids. There's talk about the kids being their money makers and the kids not actually getting paid. The parents get paid handsomely and we wonder if they are setting up trusts for the kids. I think that is a legitimate wonder. No one would have ever given them a show if it were only "Jon and Kate". And there is wonder about how having their lives documented through the show will factor on the kids social lives and mental health. But I rarely see too much bashing of their day to day parenting. When the camera's showed Kate spanking one of the girls there was the typical anti hitting kids cries. And when Kate was caught on camera not letting one of the kids have water there was uproar on that too. But on a whole I don't see too much fodder over the day to day parenting.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:36 am
I agree, I don't see very many posts that knock Kate's mothering skills. (Or Jon's fathering skills either). I've always said Kate is very loving towards her kids. My "issue" is that I don't think Kate &/or Jon are very objective and don't realize how damaging in the long run them keeping the kids on TV is going to be. (or is already!) But it would be hard for them to be objective and I wonder if they have any loved ones (friends or family) who can help guide/counsel them now. Seems like their extended family is pretty much nonexistent.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 10:04 am
Why does having kids on TV have to be damaging if it is handled well?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 10:18 am
Having Kids on TV does not have to be damaging. I think J&K is different. It is damaging because of all the press every move either Kate or Jon makes is getting. Any other show (that did not have all the paps following the family, take the roloffs for example) would not be so damaging.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 12:33 am
But that horse is out of the barn (or even Out of the Barn) so shutting down the show now, won't stop the paps from following them or the tabloids from writing about every move.. If it is the cameras in the house, well then I'd say other families with cameras in the house are at the same risk. They still aren't acting, aren't being taken away from home and school to work or act or sing or dance or practice a sport hours and hours a day, they aren't being pimped on the street, they don't live with drug dealers, they aren't orphaned or "in the system", they have sufficient food, a nice home, parents who do love them, places to play and sleep, dogs, experiences.. I'd say they are far better off than SO many children..
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Sammi
Member
03-31-2008
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 6:21 am
Did anybody see Kate's interview with Meredith Vieira this morning. She seem very genuine and seems to be making the best of the bad situation. I was never a Kate fan but find myself leaning more on her side of the fence than Jon's. He is acting so immature. Maybe I missed posts about the dogs. Do they still have them? I missed them last Monday night during the camping out show. I would think that if they were still around they would have been running around then with the kids. I sure hope they didn't get rid of them too. The poor kids lost their Dad being there it would be rough for them to have lost their dogs too.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 6:49 am
I thought the dogs were part of the security, I doubt they are gone no matter how much Kate doesn't like them. She probably has them in a kennel while she's out in the yard camping with the kids. And let's them out while she's in the house or at night.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 7:50 am
US magazine article on Kate with Meredith Vieira LINK
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 7:56 am
I thought her interview this morning was worthless as a viewer. Anything I really wanted to hear the answer for she either didn't remember, chose not to answer, or answered in a way where she really didn't answer the actual question. Very convenient that the actual answers may have helped Jon's reputation. The thing I do believe her on is that she thinks they would have ended up divorced, tv show or not. Anyway, here's a link to her spots this morning. They gave her 2 segments. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/32332892/ns/today-today_entertainment/
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:26 am
and Kathy Lee and Hoda said Jon cancelled his interview on ExtraInsideEdition - its over the top for me. all of it. Just sad.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:58 am
I only saw the second segment. Kate said there was never an affair with her and Steve Neild head of their security team. He is one of the rotating security guys that is assigned to them and his family and Kate's family are very close. He has been there since they first started needing security. His family has been a great source of support for Kate during these trying times. There never was a condo in Maryland. She was having lunch with the wife of head of security in Maryland. She called the wife to ask how that rumor would have gotten started...wife said there were condos above the restaurant. She said her home is with her children and that's where she belongs. Meredith asked her where she is (when it's Jon's turn) and she said she is in hiding, hiding from the paps and is reachable by cell phone. Meredith said Kate's mothering skills have been criticized and publicly by family, one in particular, Kate's brother and was the relationship with that brother strained before they did the show. Kate said one of the most hurtful things of all of what is going on is that she and Kevin were very close, did not have a strained relationship before and Kevin and Jodi have found that going on tv and the internet giving interviews is a source of income for them and they are getting paid "tens of thousands of dollars" to say these things. Kate said the kids are doing well. I hope to see the first part later.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 8:59 am
I agree Naja. All of the information she shared, she's already shared with us. She's just saying the same things over and over about decisions affecting the kids, how everything she does is for her kids. No new information.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, August 10, 2009 - 9:08 am
In that second segment, she also said each of the kids has substantial college funds, that she's made sure of that, and they will all go to college. For anyone on dial up ... the above link has a long written article about the interview with quotes from both segments, and links to the videos.
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