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Erniesgirl
Member
06-26-2006
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 1:15 pm
Texannie, The Rabbi's last show was Shalom in the Home. I quite like him and am glad he's reined in Jon's behaviour. I wonder if Jon thought that going to the Rabbi would win him favour with the Glassman family, a precursor to him maybe converting for Hailey. Val
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 1:32 pm
The Rabbi might be all for naught if Jon's girlfriend keeps going on these shows saying how Jon verbally abuses poor wittle her. They might break up and Jon will no longer want to become Jewish. However, he could still use the counseling side of the Rabbi. I enjoyed his show. Kelli, I also agree with you. Many things about Jon have been twisted and aren't to be believed, while Kate comes out clean. Many people in the public aren't fooled by her and realize she just quotes the company saying; ie., what TLC wants her to say and how TLC wants her to be shown. However, Jon got fed up with TLC, so they've done everything the can to make him seem like the bad guy. The only reason they haven't sued Kate's brother and sister-in-law is because they were never under contract. I'm sure they'd like to keep them quiet also.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 1:50 pm
I happen to have a very low, low opinion of Rabbi Boteach (until Rabbi Boteach, I had never heard of a Rabbi referring to himself by his first name, but I guess that's what happen when Rabbis become enamored of recognition in popular culture), but then again I don't have much time for Chabad-ites and/or most Haddisim, who are typically quite misogynist and anti-gay, among other things.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 1:51 pm
I think JON has done much more to make himself look like the bad guy, far more than TLC or anyone else could have imagined doing. Seems to me that virtually everyone Jon has hooked up with lately (The Rabbi, the attorney and his son the manager, Michael Lohan, Jill from RHWNY, Kate2, Hailey, Everyone on ET and the Nanny/Bartender are all out for their own bit of "fame" and a chunk of Jon's "fortune". Oh and the brother and SIL as well..
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 2:02 pm
thanks, ernie, i was drawing a blank on the show's name.
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Onlyhuman
Member
08-04-2001
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 2:52 pm
Seamonkey, I think that most people in the reality show business are looking for such opportunities. Everyone wants to be the Next Big Thing. In some ways, it's a function of a society that thinks fame and fortune can be had with little effort. Add to that people who are certain that they are more interesting than they really are and you have the reality tv industry. I still can't decide if the Jon/Hailey conflict is real or an attempt to bring more attention to Jon's supposed epiphany and life changes. I mean, if you were trying to market a TV show, wouldn't you pitch the theme of a selfish man attempting to find redemption rather than the selfish man trying to recapture his youth? I can't let go of Jon telling Kate to get a clue and become an "independent contractor" and the video of Jon and Hailey flying to LA for the interview. She was appearing with his knowledge and support. Is it just a coincidence that it all went so poorly?
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 3:05 pm
I really liked Shalom in the Home. The Rabbi is a bit loud and energetic, which would be hard on me in real life to be around a lot. But he was also calm at times. I thought his message of doing what is best for the kids and how much it hurts kids when parents fight and when parents disrespect the other parent was really good. I would welcome watching him on tv again. I really had a lot of respect for him based on his show. I missed him when the show wasn't on anymore.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 3:15 pm
From Kelli's post 10:06 am today: " Same situation, a photo, a statement and a denial." I don't see it as the same situation at all. Jon has been linked to numerous women. His behavior for the next several mos. after being photographed coming out of the bar with the woman driving his car last spring makes that situation worse, imo. Being photographed with one's bodyguard isn't the same at all, imo.
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Nan
Member
09-25-2000
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 4:14 pm
Coming from a different direction, they are a Christian family, attending a Church that does not condone divorce. Our denomination does not condone divorce except in the case of adultery,and I think they are of the same denomination........maybe after she thought she had "proof"....it made it more acceptable to her...I hope this makes sense how I am explaining it....certainly not judging her or him, because I don't know the "real...living it at home facts"
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 4:25 pm
Kate hasn't been seen with a man because I'm pretty sure most if not all men would run from her. And if the time ever comes where a man might date Kate I'm sure it will be for $$$$$ and some sort of scam. Most men I know cringe when Kate's name is mentioned. She'll probably be alone for a very long time especially if she keeps her mug on TV. At a halloween party there were 2 kate masks and there was a lot of trash talking about Kate mostly from the guys.....ages 30-50. So don't count on seeing Kate walking around hand in hand with anyone but the body guard.
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 4:48 pm
I wonder if now that Jon & Hailey are supposedly broken up, if he'll now go for the $1 million to do the Octomom date show. Or maybe not now since he's denied having involvement & then being busted in that lie revealing that he really was involved. But the timing would now be perfect to do it, & the money is very good. Not so sure there'd be much public interest in it now though since the stunt has become so public.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 4:56 pm
Most men I know cringe when Kate's name is mentioned. Gee, most, no ALL of the men I know have never watched the show and couldn't tell you a thing about her personality.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 5:13 pm
You don't have to watch to show to have seen, heard or read about her wife style. You can't turn your computer on without Kate's on the CNN, MSM, Comcast pages. You'd have to be in a state of vegetation to have missed them. Probably "all" would be close but a bit of an over statement. You should have heard the nasty things said about "Kate", the costume. People that don't even want to know have heard all about the mess that is Jon, Kate and those beautiful kids, they are all over every media on and off line.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, November 01, 2009 - 6:27 pm
And plenty of other people haven't a clue, don't buy magazines, don't hang out online.. I find I apeak in a totally different language with many people as opposed to here or with other people who are online more, otherwise they are just looking at me as if I'm speaking gibberish. And most women I know wouldn't imagine or consider hooking up in any way with Jon.. course most of my friends aren't in his target demographic, either.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 5:21 am
And most women I know wouldn't imagine or consider hooking up in any way with Jon.. course most of my friends aren't in his target demographic, either. LOL
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 5:34 am
Well for that segment of the public who believes Jon tells the truth, he is blaming the marriage breakdown on..... himself. LOL Jon apologizes to Kate: "I don't want to ruin things with Hailey like I did with Kate." Personally I think when you get on a podium and declare your regret to a room of strangers with cameras and microphones instead of the person/people actually involved that it means nothing. This was all about Jon working on his image and nothing to do with sincere regret.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 6:10 am
i agree 100% rissa.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 8:47 am
Rissa, especially when you are charging $20 a pop for people to come and listen to you!
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 9:18 am
My first thought is that he is afraid that Kate's "tell all" interview will really tell all. I don't think she will say much more than she has already said, but Jon might think that she will start talking and he doesn't want to be the bad guy. We've heard this song before. Actions speak louder than words.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 9:49 am
There was a charge? I didn't know that Karuuna, it does make it worse. What happened to not speaking to the public? We have Jon making grand speeches in front of an audience and Kate doing this big interview that airs tonight. Could be Mama. The story he is telling doesn't make sense and she hasn't given her side yet. BTW, on a related note... I saw a bit of that Hailey interview this weekend. At one point she said they (her and Jon) had been going through this for a year, then later when asked to be specific about when they got together she said they only became intimate this summer. My math skills are not that great but I don't think I could get confused btn one year and 3 months. One year, interestingly enough, does put it right at the time Jon says Kate kicked him out of the main house.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 9:54 am
From the link (Rissa 4:34am today) a few posts up: In an exchange near the end of the event, the Rabbi told the small crowd, "My advice is, both spouses should not date because the kids are going through a hard time." And that is why I like Rabbi Schmuley.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:40 am
I've always like Rabbi Schmuley too! (and ITA with Rissa!) and Rabbi Schmuley and Dr Phil are in the same category - as in public personna - its a headliner... Some of the things I remember from clips - Jon said Haley and he are not "taking a break" but they are "slowing things down" but its not a break... ok... is it for public image? Is it confusion? I hope they do - it sounds like Haley needs time away from everything - but it truly seems like these people are addicted to the "fame" - they seem to HATE the infamous, and I dont blame them for that - even if it is consequences for their actions... but it also is partly my fault - as in "public" keeps watching... The other interesting part, which many felt in the beginning - Jon said he was tired of constantly being told he was the "9th child" by Kate... Again, many are asking the question of Jon since he didnt want to be a stay at home dad "changing diapers, giving baths," etc then he needed to get a job - to support his family... I also could see that Kate's personality is "big" her dreams, big, her solution fell into her lap - aka the first TLC show with her and her family - it grew - almost as an accident in the beginning, then it seems to have become "addictive" (the freebies, trips, clothes etc" Then the travel for Kate to promote books etc... They certainly know that it is affecting the kids - but they cant seem to change their behavior - it just seems they are addicted to this camera in front of the "public" that is jumping on any appearance - even if it is $20 a person... its just odd.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 10:42 am
I also am tired of seeing Kate cry on camera, and Jon whine on camera - neither one of them come across to me as sincere. WHich reminds me of the "balloon boy" - the children will speak the out - I'm glad they are not filming the children.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:39 am
They certainly know that it is affecting the kids - but they cant seem to change their behavior - it just seems they are addicted to this camera in front of the "public" that is jumping on any appearance - even if it is $20 a person... LOL What's that definition of insanity? Doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different outcome? I don't believe for a second that either one of them wouldn intentionally do anything that would hurt those kids, they just can't seem to connect cause and effect when it comes to the media.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, November 02, 2009 - 11:52 am
I just can't get over hearing Jon complaining (I am paraphrasing): I was changing diapers and giving baths and going to doctors appts - you know things you expect your WIFE to do. And he said it as if that was a big part of why he was unhappy. And that is why I think Jon is a neanderthal.
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