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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:10 am
How do you know what their agreement is, Jimmer? Maybe it's that the other parent is to be advised of the need for a babysitter before calling another one in. IF their agreement was that parents are to be called first to babysit, and IF Kate got wind of this other babysitter, I would certainly think she would have the right to be on the property. I wish they would fill us in on all of the details of stuff so we don't have to keep debating the issues. Don't they know that we NEED to know? lol!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:47 am
Indeed, Hukd! LOL
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:48 am
I wouldn't have called the police. I would have called my lawyer and told him or her that we were reworking the custody agreement.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 9:52 am
Yes, that's what I'd have done also Roxip. Hukd, if that were the case, the police would have been able to do something.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:01 am
Having never been in that situation, I am truly not sure what I would do.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:33 am
I don't know for a fact what the police can or can not do in a situation like this. I don't know Pennsylvania divorce laws as thoroughly as others, apparently.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 10:36 am
Police told ET there was no call to 911, nor was any domestic dispute reported. They confirm a non-emergency call was placed and an officer responded. They say the situation calmed down and there were no charges filed.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 11:58 am
I'm sort of just hoping that one of the freebies Jon got was a vasectomy. Since he seems to lack restraint and apparently cannot go without for a week until he gets back to whoever the heck he is really "with" we could see quite a population explosion. He apparently cannot go long without being out late at bars. And last reported bar visit was WITH Stephanie, so he must have had to hire yet another babysitter to cover for him and "his" babysitter. It would all be interesting if there weren't children involved. As for saying what I would do in a highly charged situation .. I'm sure that Kate didn't expect to be locked out .. I really cannot say how I'd react. Poor Jon, though, since he has said when he is in Pennsylvania he feels, like, ugh.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:13 pm
I'm just going by what was reported as we do with much of what we discuss on the board. Obviously calling the police didn't work for her with respect to getting into the house.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:17 pm
Sea, maybe that can be one of the episodes! LOL
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 12:33 pm
LOL - Now that would be a good one!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 1:34 pm
It always come down to control, doesn't it, with these two.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 2:13 pm
i have always thought their issue was more of a perception of good judgement or how a situation should be handled rather than control. she seemed to fuss at jon the most when he wasn't helping in a situation when she thought she needed it and he didn't or used bad judgment (ie the coupons, she thought it was bad judgement to not use them.)
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 2:38 pm
Control, indeed.. the full spectrum from NO----------------------TOTAL Neither of which really works for long.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Saturday, August 15, 2009 - 3:05 pm
They seem to be two completely different personalities. Kate seems very controlling and particular about how things are done. Jon seems fairly indifferent and passive (which may have turned into passive aggressive). I think differences can work for the short-term in a relationship and it may even have been one of the factors that made them attractive to each other. However, it was harder for them to make it work in the long-term.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 8:33 am
Another source says Kate called the house to find out which babysitter was helping with the children. When she didn't approve of the caretaker, an argument with Jon ensued Why does Kate call when she's not there? Is she trying to micro-manage Jon? If he had a separate house and had the kids there, Kate would have no say in whom he had babysit. During his time with the children, he should be able to have complete control. Kate isn't accepting that this is really happening yet. As long as she's in control, it's okay. I don't see them sharing that house forever.
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:03 am
"i have always thought their issue was more of a perception of good judgement or how a situation should be handled rather than control" Isn't that control, when you think there is only one way, your way?
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 11:10 am
Responding a little late here: Hukdonreality, Jon said in one of the videos posted that the agreement was the other one wouldn't be home during the other's turn with the kids. It was out of Jon's mouth that we got that info. Whether one chooses to believe Jon is a different story, but the info came from as close to the horse's mouth as you can get.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 1:23 pm
I obviously don't think so, mgmriver. LOL I differ with my spouse on certain things with our kids, but I am not trying to control him. We just look at things differently. I am much stricter with the kids on some things that he feels aren't that big of a deal. (curfews, parents being home when friends are over..things like that). We have a different perspective. I used the coupon as an example with jon and kate. i absolutely agree she shouldn't have berated him, but always using a coupon is very important to her (she has stated it many times). i don't think she is trying to control jon by asking him to use coupons. she was trying to save money. his perspective is it's not that big of a deal.
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Mgmriver
Member
04-27-2009
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 2:31 pm
The things you and your husband don't agree on,Tex, do you forbid him his option or berate him in front of your kids, just so you can control the situation? Most couples don't do things exactly the same way but they don't barge in and demand things are done their way. I bet you and your husband compromise with each other. Everything is important to Kate. The coupon thing was a just an example of Kate's personality. They were already making money, being comped for all the things they consumed it wasn't going to make the difference of eating or paying the mortgage. It ended up being a good storyline and another example of Kate's bossiness.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 3:20 pm
I must be controlling cause I don't think my examples are control issues! LOL If I am understanding you correctly, if someone thinks their way is the better option, it's all about control? Don't most people think their way is better? LOL Like I said, I don't agree when she berates him, but I don't think she is trying to control him. If she calmly said 'we always use coupons' would that still be trying to control him? I think people react to the manner in which she speaks, not what she is saying. Some of the wealthiest people I know watch their pennies and are very frugal. Just because you have it doesn't mean you need to be foolish about spending it.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:32 pm
My favorite Kate quote from the kitchen episode when Jon merely suggested an option for the new kitchen. "What planet are you on" When the 3rd party explains what Jon requested, it was not until then that she thought about it. Nothing that Jon says will ever be right. Unless you live w/ this type of a personality, you do not know it when you see it. That is exactly what someone I live w/ would say to me. Kate is 100% a control freak from what the kids wear to what they eat to what anyone else thinks. Let me point out, that I am not defending Jon.
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Irismi
Member
02-22-2008
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:51 pm
Well, Sherbabe, Wait till the kids are a little older and have a mind of their own...Kate will not be a happy camper then (and yes, I Know she loves her children)... I think Jon is living his own life now and some are appalled at his choices. I don't care what he chooses to do as long as the children are okay. At least he's not on tv crying 'fake' tears...looking for sympathy and higher tv ratings...
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Glenrie
Member
03-24-2006
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:57 pm
Let's keep in mind we don't know what happened that night. Did one of the older kids call Kate because of what was going on with Jon and the "babysitter"? Jon hasn't ever been discreet, he continues to bring women..scratch that, girls to the house. There is no telling what those kids are seeing or hearing. It sure would be nice if he could keep those hormones in check during the time he is with the kids!
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 6:57 pm
Yes, I see 8 "mommy dearest" books in the future.
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