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Panda
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07-15-2005
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 12:15 am
Kristin's voice or the way she talks was driving me bonkers tonight!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 1:13 am
Actually for the first time, I was with Ron. Kristin was asking way too much. Ron did keep his promise but no way should she have expected him to browbeat his son out of a better chance at a bunch of money, for heaven's sake. Buh Bye Kristin. and don't assume that you are the biggest competition unless you produce the results. Look at Tara.. she knows she has a huge target on her back and she has managed to never be below the line and she isn't at a point where she has near as much to lose as Kristin. And yeah.. I think Filipe and Tara will be working like CRAZY to prove Mike wrong.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 1:17 am
Week 16: Previouslies.. Kristin is thrilled to be staying.. seems sensitive to how hard it is for Tara but of course happy to be there. Tara is devastated at losing Laura. Helen comforts her. She's scared they will try to take her out, now. Cannot trust anyone, no one to talk to. They played a game and Laura was a chess piece. The "in group" listens to Ron (with Mike, Filipe, Kristin agreeing and they note that Tara has never been below the line and is the only one who hasn't been below the line (is this foreshadowing?) Ron declares six people left, four of "us" (we see Tara with Helen as the other two). Ron says it is huge to make it this far. Kristin tells us how the brown team is still intact, Mike has lost more weight than anyone in BL history, Ron would do ANYTHING to push Mike farther, anything at all and this late in the game the fact that they are still intact is deadly (yet you keep voting their way, Kristin). Filipe says this week will be harder. Says to us this is war. Jillian arrives to talk to Tara. Tara says to us that Jillian TOLD Mike when he said he didn't know what to do, to send Laura home. Jillian tells us she did say that. Explains why, not fair to other players. Jillian shouts to Tara not to be so selfish, it wasn't safe or fair. Not all about YOU. Jillian is upset that Tara is being a victim. Tells Tara she is projecting her feelings, talk about it. Tara is scared, wants to make it to the end. Jillian tells her it is time to focus on herself, not cry about Laura (ed. I really like that Jillian steps up and addresses stuff like this. She tried to do that with Filipe and Sione when they "lost" Bob, but they were too childish to suck it up. Hopefully Laura will benefit from having this out between Laura/Jillian) Bob comes to talk to Filipe, Ron, Kristin, who acts "surprised" she is still there" (and pleased). Bob says it only made sense, Laura was "broken". Bob tells us he dreaded not seeing Kristin. He tells them three weigh ins left. They need to go above and beyond. He tells Ron he will be in the 200's next weigh in. (ed. I don't think Ron's makeover was real successful..) (but then in confessional, maybe with makeup? he looks better and they show a picture of him as a teenager and he looks SO much like Mike!!! If that pic had Mikes haircut, it would be him) Bob says time to get to the gym, but wants to connect with Kristin, know where her head was, after falling below the yellow line. Tells her she has no time for self-doubt. She is scared. She is afraid to say she wants it (making it to the end. She remembers not being picked the first day, biggest girl, lost the most. He tells her she is what the BL is all about. She tells us she does deserve it. Competition Ali is there with some woman (Rosemary Ellis Editor-in-Chief of Good Housekeeping) and there is a podium for each contestant. Like a game show. Giant TV too. GH is looking for ways to save readers time, etc. GH institute, tests items. They will play the Biggest Loser Fitness and Food Trivia Quiz. Four questions, they write down answers. Find out correct answers and whoever gets most gets three day trip to NYC and visit GH Research Institute for a private tour. They are all excited. Kristin thinks she can beat Tara. 1. According to the packaging, how many servings are in this 7.5" pizza A One Tara, Kristin B Two Mike, Filipe C Four Helen, Ron D Eight LOL right answer is D, 8 servings. The idea is you have to look at serving size and calories/fat per. Tied at 0 2. Which fat is the heart healthiest to use in cooking? A Butter B Vegetable Oil C Olive Oil Filipe, Helen, Kristin, Mike, Tara D Trans-Fat Free Margarine Ron All guess C except Ron, who guesses D. Tara is surprised he didn't pick Olive Oil. Kristin is shaking her head, too. Olive Oil, of course, is the heart-healthiest choice. All have 1 point except for Ron. 3. Which ground meat has the least amount of fat? A Extra lean ground beef Filipe B Ground chicken C Ground turkey breast Kristin, Mike, Ron D Ground veal E Lean ground turkey Helen, Tara C is correct. 2 points: Kristin, Mike 1 point; Helen, Ron, Tara Ground turkey breast has 1% fat, Extra lean ground beef and lean ground turkey have 7%, Ground veal, 8% and Ground chicken 11% (because skin is ground in) 4. How many extra steps do people who wear a pedometer walk daily? A 150 B 700 C 1,100 Tara D 2,000 Kristin, Helen, Mike, Ron Correct is 2,000 3 points: Kristin, Mike 2 points: Helen, Ron 1 point: Filipe, Tara Tie-breaker. How many calories are in this fried, fast food fish sandwich with tartar sauce? Kristin wants that trip. Kristin: 435 calories Mike: 635 calories Kristin thinks she won. LOL 640 calories. Mike WINS!! Bob hangs with Kristin, Filipe and Ron. Joke about Kristin being a crybaby for losing . Bob says they should know this. Kristin points out that she did better than Ron and Filipe. Bob says they should have passed with flying colors. Bob points out the badness of fast food fish sandwiches. Bob wants them to tape a day of their meals. Ron is worried about going home and not knowing stuff (after all these weeks?) Product placement with Jillian for zip lock Zip and Steam bags.. Mike and Tara .. Mike says they will be good in dorm room with microwave. Competition: 45 feet above the ground, panic runs high. They are suspended in cages hanging from chains, helmets on. Most terrifying challenge yet. Crane, too. It is a balancing comp, Each cage has a rope, they hold onto the rope keeping themselves suspended.. Longest one up, wins. Winner gets $10,000 OR trade in for one pound advantage. Kristin says one pound can make all the difference. The platforms are easy to tilt.. Up they GO! Lots of OMG, scared.. wind is blowing, too. Mike is first out. Says he didn't want to deal with the height. It doesn't drop all that far, really. He says he knew he would let go right away. It is cold out.. 28 degrees. Ron not afraid of height, good upper body strength. Kristin is terrified. Tara doubtful of winning. 20 min Filipe, one hand, shivering, hunched over. Ron is leaning back, holding. Tara says she'll do the same. Filipe snarks at Tara for talking. The two are back and forth. Helen says take the conversation to the ground. They keep talking to psych Helen out. Kristin says Filipe is moving the device. Filipe says yeah.. Ron is distracted.. his rope slips. He says he went for hand only and it just slipped. 35 min. Helen thinks the rope is slipping. Filipe starts jiggling around to bug Helen. (kinda jerky act..) Kristin hopes Filipe falls. Tara calls him an idiot (to us) Helen will kick his ass. 36 min Filipe out.. his back couldn't take more. 44 min Tara asks how Kristin is doing, says she is feeling good. Kristin slips. Helen and Tara left. 1:00 hour Helen offers to split the money if Tara lets go. Tara says she needs the pound. Helen tells us the pound means everything to her. 1:15 Helen says she wants the pound. She looks at Tara and says "nothing touches you, does it?" Helen drops, very upset. (I feel for her but not happy with her bash to Tara) Tara wins! Bob back to look at video food journals Bob tells them they may be going too low calorie with their workouts. Ron calls Olive Oil "empty calories" Bob says it is heart-healthy.. Bob criticizes them for having no protein. Bob snarks that maybe they will have ICE for dinner. Says not enough food. He pushes some canned protein powder. Tells them to get extreme in the gym, not the kitchen Last Chance Workout: Jillian working her trio hard. This is the sprint to the end. Bob working Kristin hard. Filipe also working out. Ron doing pull ups. Ron needs 3 pounds to be back to teenage weight, but says he needs more this week. Filipe says he is very motivated. Jillian has her team doing 2 min. sprints. Telling Helen she quit. Kristin is in pain. Jillian talks to Mike about anger.. he keeps blaming himself for his weight no matter that he was given no info or support. Mike goes to confront Ron about anger issues, being fat for last 18 years. Never got why Ron was so big and didn't change for Max and Mike. Says he has been frustrated and never expressed it. Ron says Mike is upset that I let Mike and Max follow in my footsteps and I deserve to have the anger directed at me. (ed I think the best thing for Mike has been working with Jillian). Ron is willing to listen, says his wife was fat but lost the weight and you should be pissed off at me. I couldn't drill it into you when I was 400. Says now we can help Max. Ron says he deserves it and it is fine for Mike to be pissed off with him. The Weigh-in Ali points out milestones, most weight loss by a women, most weight loss by anyone ever (on campus), Tara has to decide between $10,000 or a one pound advantage at weight in. Tara says that would be a new life, first, last, security on apartment. Tara decides to take the $10,000. Helen are you kidding me? Tara weighs in first. Jill tells us everyone has always taken the pound, but Tara is betting on herself and Jillian likes to see that. Ali offers to let Tara change her mind right before she weighs in. Jillian won't comment. Tara says Ali is torturing her. She says she is confident in herself that she's done well. Will take the $10,000. She loses 5 pounds and jumps in the air. Jillian smiles. Ron is next. Will he go under 300 pounds? Yep he loses 4 pounds, down to 298. He moves under Tara on the list. Next up is Helen. She says she lost 7 pounds, not sure of two big losses in a row. She needs more than 4 pound loss to guarantee safety. She loses just 1 pound. Tara is safe. Now we have Mike. Needs to lose more than 3 pounds to be safe. He loses 8 pounds! He's safe, happy, confident of going to finals and winning. And he is top of the list for now. Filipe is up now. Now he says he is fighting for his wife, kids, culture and himself. (lol.. no mention of Sione or Bob). He needs to lose more than 3 pounds to be safe. He loses 3. Not safe for now. He's shocked. He is ahead of Helen. Helen is now below the line for sure. Ron is safe. Kristin is last to go up.. Will Helen face Kristin or Filipe? Kristin is sad that either she will be below the line or push Filipe there, her best friend. Needs more than 2 pounds loss to be safe. OMG! She gained a pound (ed.. now will those she saved keep her or play the game and keep Helen?) Filipe is safe. Kristin goes below Helen and the yellow line. Bob and everyone are totally shocked, say Kristin was unbelievable this week. Kristin thinks she put too much pressure on herself, and finally said she wanted it and it backfired. Bob and Jillian say goodnight. Jillian says Helen and Kristin kill themselves working so hard. Bob hates to see these two women below the line, don't deserve to be below. They have an hour. Helen is sobbing. Kristin is crying. Ron is stroking her shoulder. Filipe hugs Kristin. Have to wonder if Ron will go against Kristin as a bigger threat to Mike? Elimination Helen cries, says not ready to go, never too one day for granted, says she deserves this. Kristin doesn't know where to begin, cannot believe she is sitting in this spot, again, no idea why and so angry, worked so hard. She asks to take a moment and talk to Ron. Mike is torn, says he's in the final five. The biggest threat, the only threat, could still be here (Kristin). Kristin says important to talk to Ron, one on one, he has told me he would never write my name down, wants to make sure. She's disappointed, relies on Ron, Mike and Filipe to keep her here but they did that last week. Ron smiles. Kristin points out that if it comes to a tie, she is gone, so she needs three votes to stay. (or, against Helen) Ron says he will never write her name down (I assume that doesn't hold if she is up against Mike, He says he promised her he would do what he could to push "you and my son" to the end. He promised her mother. She asks if Mike would vote her out. He says he doesn't know. I'll talk to my son. He tells us he knows Filipe won't vote Kristin out, but Tara is probably going to vote out Kristin because she is close to Helen. Not sure about Mike. Kristin says it will be obvious what the Brown team's intentions are with this vote.. are they here for the money or is this about weight loss (uh.. I think they could be here for BOTH at this point and still vote her out.) Mike and Ron shuffle off to their room to talk. We hear Ron whisper that if Mike and Tara vote to keep Helen and Filipe and Ron vote to keep Kristin, Kristin still goes home. She's your bigger threat. Mike: Mm, Hmm Ron: Just make sure Tara's on the same page as you. Mike: Is that okay with you if I do that? Ron: Yeah. Mike: That's what I want to make sure. Voting Mike says he has the ability to take the only person out standing in his way for the final. Can I pull the trigger on someone I love and send 'em home, to make way for me? Kristin says Mike is the swing vote, will he take the "coward's way out" and eliminate the toughest competition in this house, or will he for once in his life be a MAN and take on the challenge? (Whew.. I find what Kristin said offensive) Tara adores Kristin. My partner's gone, difficult. Helen has been here for me, need you by my side. Votes Kristin. Filipe: Kristin was there for him when Sione left. Votes Helen. Sorry Mamma. Ron: Signs and votes for Helen. Helen is my best friend in the house, we talk a lot. I could never write Kristin's name down, promised her mother to get her to the end. Mike: You and I both know that you and I are the biggest threats in this house. Decision for myself. Votes for Kristin. Kristin is out, with lowest % of weight lose. Kristin says not surprised, sad for Mike; Mike obviously wants to take the easier route to win it. If I would've been at the end with you, it would have been a lot harder. She laughs, you took the easy way out. Mike looks upset. Just shakes his head. Ali asks Ron and Ron says Mike did what was best for him. Kristin shakes her head. Ali asks if Ron knew what Mike was doing. Ron says no. Kristin says Nothing happens by mistake in this game. You know Ron definitely was true to his word and said he would never write my name down, but I'm not walking out these doors by mistake or chance, I mean Mike has this won already. Mike has already won this competition. Ali asks Mike if he's going to win. Mike thinks he will win. Ron: My son will win. Filipe and Tara stare at Mike and Ron.. Mike smiles. Kristin, time for you to go. She waves but no hugs. She says she's lost 116 pounds in 16 weeks. I'll miss Bob so much, blah blah Bob. Moment of glory. Won my life back. Exactly who I want to be. She's arriving home.. sees supportive signs in town. At home, huge welcome sign, everyone is stoked. Nick is happy to have his wife back. Cathy is in tears. Kristin sees lives she has touched. 2 months later, she is giving a speech.. seems like she's started to highlight her hair again, but it isn't so stripey. Sort of a heavy hand on the eye makeup. People tell how she inspired them to lose. She is down 132 pounds and hopes to be under 200 at the finale. Next Tuesday Heaviest cast in BL history. With most weight lost in 7 seasons (1477 lb) be there for their emotional last week on campus. In 2 weeks, live finale. Bob's Black team: Filipe and Ron. Jillian's Blue team: Helen, Mike, and Tara.
Trainer color | Name | Age | Height | Starting Weight | Previous Weight | Current Weight | New Loss | % | *Total* Loss | Week 16 | J brn (blk) (brn) | Mike | 18 | 5'11" | 388 | 243 | 235 | -8 | 3.29 | -153R | safe trip to NYC | J grn (blk) (grn) | Tara | 23 | 5'9" | 294 | 182 | 177 | -5 | 2.75 | -116 | safe takes $10K wins $10K or 1 lb advantage | B brn (blu) {brn) | Ron | 54 | 6'0" | 430 | 302 | 298 | -4 | -1.32 | -132 | safe | JB blu (blk) (blu)) | Filipe | 26 | 5'11" | 364 | 247 | 244 | -3 | 1.21 | -120 | safe | J pnk (blk) (pnk) | Helen | 47 | 5'6" | 257 | 162 | 161 | -1 | 0.62 | -96 | below line | B prp (blu) (prp) | KristinR | 28 | 5'6" | 360 | 243 | 244 | +1 | +0.41 | -116 | eliminated week 16 below line | J grn (blk) (grn) | Laura | 24 | 5'9" | 285 | 205 | (208) | | | (-77) | eliminated week 15 | JB blu (blk) (blu) | Sione | 28 | 6'0" | 372 | 256 | (235) | | | (-137) | eliminated week 14 | B red | Nicole | 37 | 5'8" | 269 | 187 | (164) | | | (-105) | eliminated week13 won 2nd chance wk 13 eliminated week 3 | B ylw (blu) (ylw) | Aubrey | 28 | 5'5" | 249 | 191 | (181) | | | -68 | eliminated week 12 | B blu (prp) | Cathy | 48 | 5'8" | 293 | 241 | (215) | | | (-78) | eliminated week 11 | B blu (ylw) | Mandi | 30 | 5'9" | 263 | 197 | (179) | | | (-84) | eliminated week 10 | B blu (blk) | Dane | 27 | 6'4" | 412 | 312 | | | | -100 | eliminated week 8 | B pnk | Shanon | 29 | 5'5" | 283 | 238 | (198) | | | (-85) | eliminated week 7 | J blk | Blaine | 27 | 6'8" | 365 | 299 | (279) | | | (-86) | eliminated week 6 | B sil | Joelle | 41 | 5'8" | 309 | 278 | (252) | | | (-57) | eliminated week 5 | B sil | Carla | 36 | 5'8" | 379 | 339 | (292) | | | (-87) | eliminated week 5 | J org | Daniel | 19 | 5'8" | 454 | 394 | (353) | | | (-101) | eliminated week 4 | J org | David | 23 | 6'0" | 393 | 377 | 34713 | | 11.7013 | -4613 | Home eliminated week 4 2nd chance wk 13 | B red | Damien | 31 | 5'11" | 381 | 351 | (307) | | | (-74) | eliminated week 3 | J wht | Estella | 63 | 5'8" | 242 | 233 | 19913 | | 18.6013 | -4513 | Home eliminated week 2 2nd chance wk 13 | J wht | Jerry | 63 | 6'3" | 369 | 343 | (285) | | | (-84) | eliminated week 2 | Numbers in () are as reported when eliminated teams are shown and a number is given) R Record. Kristin first woman to lose 100 pounds or more while on campus R Record. Mike sets record for most weight lost on campus, beating Roger's record in the same week on campus 13 Special return for week 13 weigh in
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 1:21 am
What upset me about Ron tonight was that he told Kristen that he would try to get Mike to vote for her to stay but then we heard and read what Ron really said to Mike. He flat out told Mike to vote Kristen out and make sure that Tara was voting with him knowing that would force a tie and Kristin would go home. I don't think that people on these shows remember that their words are being recorded. One by one all of the people I was rooting for have either been sent home or have don't something I really disliked. Helen has been stomping so hard on my very last nerve for weeks. Everyone annoyed me tonight. I think the money should go to a food bank and then NBC should get those people off my TV. And THAT irritates me, too, because in the beginning weeks I thought they were the nicest group ever. pfffffffft!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 2:01 am
Tess, I listened pretty carefully and thought Ron just said "I'll talk to my son". And when Ali asked if he knew what Mike would do.. Mike never specifically said what he would do (though it was pretty clear what he would do) Promise or not I think Kristin was pushing it pretty far to expect that she could just demand to stay. I also have liked most of them less as time went on. But I do remember last season being much worse. Vicky .. Heba.. 
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 3:46 am
LOL Tess, just keep reminding yourself about last season!! This group is much more tolerable IMO. As Sea wrote.... Vicky.... Heba... no need to say more? LOL Interesting how Ron mentioned that about 7 yrs ago his wife decided to get thin. Wonder how large she was. Typical teenager to blame parents for his issues but on the other hand, very good point Mike. I know they edit the crap out of these conversations but it would have been nice to see Ron a bit more contrite. He seemed to take it on the chin but in a slightly condenscending manner. Tara will have it rough next week, both Helen and Filipe are in good positions to post big numbers.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 5:57 am
Tara is a freaking machine. She impresses me over & over. I do wish it had been Kristin and Tara at the end. Someone needed to break up the brown team a long time ago. Ron needs to go home. Mike is a good kid but the chains need to be broken.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 8:32 am
Tess, I heard it like you did, that Ron implied he would try to get Mike to vote to save Kristin. Blech. They are all so freaky this year about leaving. I'm kind of disappointed that the trainers haven't imparted more of a sense of self sufficiency in them.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:00 am
Tara or Mike for the win!!!!!
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:41 am
I felt that Kristin should not have said that Mike should be a man..he did not owe her anything. But Ron should have been honestwith her and said I would not vote you off but my son will probably do so because it is in his best interest. I did not like Ron lying telling his son how they could get rid of her after telling her he would do what he could to keep her.
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 10:41 am
Oh I do remember Vicki and Heba from last season. They are the reason why I quit watching and never did see the finale. That was the first time I had abandoned this show before the ending.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:07 am
I think this is the age-old reality show dispute. Do you vote people off that are your strongest competitors, making it easier for you to win? Or do you keep people who are good competitors for the sake of a good competition, or for other reasons (like who needs to be there, who needs the money, etc).
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:11 am
No comment about Ron. Surprise! What could I possibly say? I despised the phony protein product placement video game tonight. If those people had been eating 2 ounces of fish for dinner, their bodies would have shut down in defensive starvation mode months ago. I was stunned to find out Mike's mother was one time big. They have shown several times her sitting on the couch almost disappearing between her large family. I had no idea she had lost so much weight. Makes me wonder about the males in that family and whether Mike's brother can succeed? They showed us a teaser of Mike as part of the finale. I hope that was misleading. During the voting, I noticed Felipe do a double take. I hope Felipe, Tara and Helen realize their only chance now is to band together and hope a brown goes below next week. I wonder if Felipe and Tara were big enough in the first place and can safely go down low enough to beat Mike. ETA: I liked that Tara bet on herself. Gutsy move. And I really liked that Jillian supported her to bet on herself. Very empowering coach
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 11:29 am
I would expect Ron to put himself below the yellow line to avoid accidentally losing a higher percentage than Mike. He will probably gain weight to protect him. I actually think that would be the right move for him, based on how he has played the game all season.
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 2:32 pm
Bob I tend to agree but I wonder about Ron's ego. If Ron thinks he has a shot at this, I think he would sacrifice Mike in a minute.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 3:10 pm
Well, one thing this show does is completely dispel the calories in, calories used mythology. Kristin took in very few calories and expended a great deal and gained a pound. There are simply more factors at play, and I get so frustrated every time I hear someone say it's as simple as calories in/calories out. It's not.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 3:27 pm
I agree that Ron IMPLIED something to Kristin, (and after all, that is what Kristin WANTED him to do, to convince Mike to send home the lesser threat) but he didn't say the words.. I'm pretty sure in Ron's world that is how he operates. They don't call him the godfather for nothing on the show. His promise was to not write down Kristin's name and he did that. I wish she would be more gracious and grateful that she got to be there for the makeovers and the $1000 from Macy's last week, because she could have so easily been sent home before that. And bottom line is.. she gained the weight, no one else and she had MUCH more to lose than Helen or Tara. Kristin was happy enough to go along with the elimination of both black team members, big threats.. and Nicole was certainly sent packing. Brown team definitely should have beem busted up way back and Kristin was quite active in keeping them there, so this time it bit her in the butt. Frankly, I'm not sure she was SUCH a huge threat to Mike, but still a bigger threat than Helen, unless they were determined to further demoralize Tara by taking away that last supportive person. (except for Jillian.. Tara does have Jillian, but Jillian is equally there for Mike) Jillian has been good for them.. I cannot imagine Bob pulling out the reason for Mike's anger and encouraging him to let it out, as did Jillian. I also liked seeing Tara bet on herself. Next week, she might really need a pound, but that probably won't be in the offing. Bob, I agree that Ron would go below the line to protect Mike.. and of course then he'd scheme like crazy to have the other person eliminated. Filipe and Tara did a synchronized double take (I was worried about whiplash) when Mike said he was sure he was going to win. Mike is of course the perfect package.. young enough that he hasn't damaged his joints as much, or his cardio, teamed with a dad/partner who is fanatic in protecting him and building a team of supporters, worked with both trainers, well liked, had a huge amount TO lose. And he may well be unstoppable at this point.. but I'm betting Filipe and especially Tara will work like CRAZY to change that outcome. Ron has an ego, but I think it is tied up in his son at this point and of course his son being 18, any winnings will also benefit Ron, even if just lifting the burden of paying for Mike's education. My biggest disappointment last night was not that Kristin pulled out all the stops to stay, calling in her markers with Ron, etc., but that once Mike made his decision, Kristin didn't leave as gracefully as so many have left. Mike is no less of a MAN because he voted her out. He was protecting himself and even his Dad and trying to bring the win home. I had to wonder also about Kristin's "banter" about Mike winning the trip to NYC.. I know he gave up a pretty good prize to Aubrey earlier in the season and I think Kristin kind of thought just maybe he might be psyched into handing this trip to her. NOT.
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Deedee33
Member
04-13-2009
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 5:19 pm
I find this so interesting---I thought there would be much more "beating up" on Ron than there seems to be. What comes to mind is something that I have thought to be the case now for several years. And that is that on these reality shows men can get away with actions that women would be greatly critized for. I think that I even do that sometimes--hold women to a higher standard.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 5:26 pm
Sea, I thought that Kristen was hoping Mike would give her the trip to NYC as well. I was telling myself PLEASE don't give it up! lol
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 6:27 pm
DeeDee, I haven't liked Ron from day one, for his controlling tactics, even in weeks when it really didn't need to concern him, but so many of them played into his game and Kristin was MOST active and attached, I guess because she felt it protected her. Last week luckily for her she was under the line with Laura and Laura was injured, but she has (Kristin has) been a bit too vocal about what a threat she is, so that is out there, and all her talk about "being a man" not being a "coward".. I absolutely think had Tara been below that line, Kirstin would have MOST happily sent her packing, for the same reason she was sent along home. Doesn't make me like Ron more but this was Mike's decision and as manipulative as Ron has been all season he HAS left certain decisions up to Mike. I saw Mike as honestly doing what was best for him, while Kristin hoped to manipulate Ron AND Mike into doing what she saw as best for her. Anyway, hopefully Tara/Filipe/Helen will manage to finally break up the Brown team, if they get that chance.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Wednesday, April 22, 2009 - 8:25 pm
I don't like Ron. I never have. I'm rooting for Tara all the way.
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Zgoodgirl
Member
08-22-2003
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 8:15 am
I hope Tara takes this whole thing! Tara FTW! I understand to a point how Ron would protect his son and keep him in as long as possible. What I do have a problem with was the fact that Ron sat there at the table and played the good guy while he let his son take the blame knowing good and well this was his plan to begin with. I thought both him and Mike were pretty dang cocky on that table, and I hope that Tara, Filipe, and Helen ban together to take the brown team down. I like Mike, he is a good kid. I wish that he could have had this chance without his dad at his side. He is getting cocky and he is starting to act just like his dad. I hope him well in the future, and I hope that he keeps the weight off. I just don't want him to win. I do hope there is a chance next season to get his brother on there. I wonder if they have another family member or friend that is overweight that would might be able to join him. I wonder if they would even consider getting him on the show. Maybe Ron will come back with the other son, because IMO that man is not going to keep the weight off. He really hasn't learned anything there, except how to plot and scheme.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 8:21 am
I do hope there is a chance next season to get his brother on there. I wonder if they have another family member or friend that is overweight that would might be able to join him. That would be great (that boy seems like he is in a lot of emotional pain), although I am hoping they go back to individuals next season. I am still waiting them to consider my other suggestion as well which is that winners of the competitions be kept secret until the weigh-in. I am not holding my breathe that they are waiting for my input on either issue. LOLOL
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Gidget
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 8:52 am
I too am hoping for individuals next season. Rissa. I am tired of the couples dynamic. I do not want to see anymore of Ron or his family. The younger boy does not seem ready to lose, in my opinion. As others have pointed out, some players have inspired their families and friends. The boy has not been inspired to act on his own. Not even a little apparently.
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Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Thursday, April 23, 2009 - 9:08 am
I do not mean to be insensitive, but I also believe that Ron's other son just isn't ready to lose the weight. There are some simple changes he could have been making while his father/brother were away that could have shown that he was ready to make a start. He could have started taking some walks, getting SOME kind of exercise on his own or somthing, anything instead of just crying because they were losing weight and he wasn't.
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