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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
that's always been the complaint/conflict with the show. do you judge the one meal or the body of work?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Vegas, I just don't think Tom had other option to say but that they made the right choice. Cuz I think that is what he'd say even if he felt they made the wrong choice.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
It will be interesting to see if they change the process for judging the final three next season. I have never seen on the Bravo blogs such disdain for the judging process of the final three as I have for this season. People are really pissed off.

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
Yikes. I just read Casey's interview thing. There are too many negative adjectives that come to my mind when I consider what to write about her. . . .Mean and snarky are just the beginning.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
As far as the Casey article. She does sound bitter.

But seeing as she never seemed bitter before, it makes me think she was mad/angry that everyone was blaming her when maybe the things she said about Carla did happen. Based on what I have seen of Carla, I could see those things happening.

As good as I think Carla's food would taste (and I bet I would love her food 100x more than any other of the other competing chefs), I never felt that Carla had it to be Top Chef in her.

Too bad Casey was not more tactful. (But I bet she is getting roasted for Carla's loss. I bet that had a lot to do with her bitterness.)

I would LOVE to see what Carla has to say about Casey's article!

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
After my rant about last week's show, I was back to thinking Stefan deserved it once I knew Carla had blown it. Poor Carla. She really flubbed it. She has said before she needs to have more confidence in her decisions and she proved it again last night. She let Casey have far too much influence.

Stefan is a more brilliant chef than Hosea. I agree that the judging for the finale should be based on the whole season, at least when the final meal is that close between two contenders. If Stefan had completely screwed up his last chance, I would have been okay with Hosea winning, but to have it that close and for it to go to the more mediocre chef was a shame. Hosea was very grateful and I am happy for him, but I think Stefan was more worthy of the title.

I guess it is kind of like boxing or the Super Bowl, though. Records don't count. Only that final bout or that final game counts. If I look at it from that perspective, it's less vexing.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
If they are just going to have a "one meal is all that counts," they need to do away with the rest of the season and have a 4 hour cook off. It seems to me it makes the rest of the season extraneous...tune in for the finale and get it over with.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I don't think I agree with that... they still have to make it to that point and that takes hard work and good, consistent cooking.

It really does remind me of last year's Super Bowl. Hosea = New York Giants, Stefan = New England Patriots.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Sorry, I was only expressing my disgust in that post, Hermi. I don't really think they should do away with the season, but I do think they have to figure out a way to make it more cumulative while still weighing the final meal heavily.

I'm very disappointed in Hosea's win.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
My wish is that Carla has the opportunity on the upcoming reunion show to comment publicly on Casey's opinion. But then Carla may have too much class for that.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
She can comment on it and still maintain class. I would truly like to hear what Carla says about it. Because I just don't think Carla would lie. I am curious to find out whether or not Casey had some valid points or not. (Now even if she did, she was way more bitter than she needed to be.)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I don't think anyone I saw blamed Casey. I think the criticism always was put square on Carla's shoulders. She chose to listen to her sous chef. She chose to prepare foods a way she wasn't familiar with. She chose to not cook the foods that got her there.
I also did not hear Carla blaming Casey. And Carla did say she was having trouble managing her time.

As to the judges, Toby said in his blog that he disagreed with Tom and though Stefan should have won...that they were rather heated in their disagreement so I don't think Tom is doing spin control after the fact.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Wow. I just read that comment of Casey's and I have to say... bitter some, hon? I still haven't watched but... were the sous chefs brought in to help the chefs win? If so, it doesn't sound like Casey really wanted to be there. And IIRC, Casey didn't do all that great in her own finale, so WTH?

I don't think they should judge the entire season. I think they should judge the meal that they were served. Time softens rough edges and what may have been a mediocre meal could be remembered as really good or really bad (mis-remembered, actually). I think the only time the entire season should be taken into account is if the final results are neck and neck... every single thing that was served by the chefs is equally good. From Stefan's comments, it sounded as if he failed to impress on the dessert?

And yeah, I know, I need to watch this finale. I will, this weekend! :-)

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
According to the judges, Stefan also had the single best dish of the night with his squab. Hosea also got some criticism for not choosing to close with a dessert. The judges argued about whether he should have or not, with no complete agreement being reached. Sounded to me like they were pretty neck and neck.

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
The irritating thing to me about the dessert debate was that the contestants were told they did NOT have to make a dessert.

The judges should not have used Hosea's decision not to make dessert against him. That would have been completely unfair.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Well, peopel are roasting Casey big time at the place that poasted her comments. And her friends are there defending her and saying she knows she said too much. But still, it was pointed outthat some of what Casey said was not true. We heard Carla say she wanted to make a cheese tart, not that she had no idea what to make. Editing can do a lot of things, but it cannot add scenes that did not happen. And Casey complained that XCarla was self taught when Carla said she went to school and was classically trained. Carla also said she made the sauce taht Casey claimed was hers.

I think Casey did not like getting blamed and voice off. I think that not everything happened that she remembered, but Carla is distinctly trying to accept the blame, When people are working for you, you have to accept the responsibility.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Actually, I think it is fair. Chefs have to make decisions and they get judged by them. Hosea made a decision not to do the dessert and a discussion of whether or not he should have ended with one is more than fair, IMHO. It's all part of planning meals and being a professional. It's kind of a moot argument anyway, since he won, but I didn't see anything unfair in the judges' dessert discussion.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I truly can't understand Casey's reaction. Even if people were blaming her, she could have said truthfully, "I was only the sous chef. The decisons were all Carla's" and go from there with her head held high.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Costa, yes.. the three sous chefs were brought in. Carla actually had won the quickfire and got to draw the first knife, but of course it was a blind draw and she got knife three. So she chose third and was stuck with Casey. (Not that she said that, but she had no choice in the matter).

Hosea got to choose from the three surprise ingredients and he chose the easiest and he also got to assign the other ingredients, so he stuck Stefan with the alligator, which apparently Stefan handled just fine, though he was flummoxed.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Sea! I promise, I'll watch (and be able to chat more intelliently) this weekend! :-)

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
Carla is going to be on WGN-AM tomorrow night at 9:00. You can listen online here:

http://www.wgnradio.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

9:00pm Nick Digilio:
Nick talks with Top Chef: Season 5 runner-up Carla Hall. http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef


Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 5:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
That was not the first time that Casey has tried to take credit for the work/food of someone else. Just sayin'

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Well, it seems like now Casey is claiming she didn't give that interview. She claims it was an e-mail to an "acquaintance" who took advantage of her. Somebody should tell her that just like editing, an e-mail that you admit to writing cannot make you out to say something you didn't say.

I don't blame Casey for Carla's loss, but I do blame her for the personal attack on Carla and for her inability to take any responsibility for her own words and actions.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Now if someone did that interview based on an email that she did not know was going to get sent on, then I would be FURIOUS!!! If that is the case, then I feel very bad for Casey.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Saturday, February 28, 2009 - 12:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Well, the e-mail was supposedly to someone she casually knew on facebook - so are we back to - why would you say that to a stranger?

A poster, I think the website, claims that she was told the person was a reporter and that they would print it.