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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, December 12, 2008 - 5:12 pm
Yeah, that bothered me too, Costa. It is sort of like they owed her extra help because they had underestimated her earlier - which they had, but which they don't!! Jamie is not the first person there that I would invite over for dinner - unless it was to cook! I like her dishes, but find her personality less than winning.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 2:54 pm
AUGH!! I missed two weeks because we were out of town/country and someone's husband only recorded the last 20 minutes of the two shows. Anyway. . . .I'm glad I saw at least the 40 minutes and this week's show. I do not like Jamie at all. Sorry. Ego+No personality. Ariane. . . .still not sure about her, but I'm glad she's redeemed herself somewhat. If I remember correctly, the judges don't know what goes on behind the scenes unless someone says something to them, so they wouldn't know about her issues unless someone said something. . . . I thought of that when Tom brought up the fact that Carla looked like she wanted to blow a gasket and say something yet kept silent. I think Tom's words were something to the effect that a chef knows when to speak up. Glad that guy went home, though. . .Didn't like him or his attitude, either. LOVE Fabio. Jeff I alternately like and dislike. . . . .
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 4:36 pm
Jeff is soooooo cute. 
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 5:22 pm
I cannot look at Jeff without thinking that it is Anna Nicole's babydaddy, Larry Birkhead!
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 7:14 pm
I wonder why Jamie was so upset about not getting the "win" during the elimination challenge. A win during then is not worth much. the more important win is during the quickfire challenge because they get immunity. As we saw from the last season, they don't look at past performance when choosing who moves on and who is eliminated. I can't remember her name but the chef that got second or third last season was in the bottom three a lot but there was always someone worse and on Tom's blog he said they don't look at past performamce so I don't know why a win in the elimination challenge is that big of a deal, unless of course it is a really special prize but those are pretty rare.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 5:45 pm
There are many things on the show that point to Jamie being either the winner or the final 2. Richard and his kick ass statement that was printed on the screen. Why? Jamie and her bridesmaid quote. Jamie telling Arian she wanted this win. While Jamie is shown crossing her arms during judges table they show her having fun with the other chefs when they don't have to. Sometimes she looks like a deer in headlights. She breaks out in smiles during off times and it seemed a little strange that Tom called attention to her crossed arms when so many in past seasons have done the same. Will watch to see if she learned a lesson. She seems like the child who wishes she had the doll the other child has across the street. I'm going to keep a closer eye on her edit.
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Jodie75
Member
08-26-2004
| Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 6:56 pm
This is the other show that wasn't entirely taped by my PVR, for some reason. I don't know what's been going on. It only taped 14 minutes of The Office, too. I'm going to have to find a recap on this one. About cockiness: the only cocky contestant I ever rooted for was the guy who always wore hats, last season. For some reason I just liked him. 
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:41 am
There are different ways of crossing your arms. Some people just naturally do that whenever they have to stand for awhile. Jamie's was definitely defensive. Even without the look on her face, she has that stance you see when a little kid wants to argue with his parents but knows he doesn't dare, hugging the body and the head kind of down. If you have kids, you are probably familiar with the stance. She might have been upset just because she is competitive and competiive people always want to win. Besides it looks good to the people watching if she wins some things. She is just looking toward the future. And there is often a prize for winning. The thing about Ariane winning is that we could not actually taste her food, and the judges said her dish was perfectly cooked and the most flavorable of everything that was served. Doesn't mean Jamie's was not good too, just that Ariane's was a little better. As far as the group helping her when the food was not quite done, I doubt if they were thinking they were helping her win, they just did not want raw meat to go out on their dish because it might make the whole group drop to the bottom and one of them would have to go home. And if I remember right, she did say, they were not late, that she was just panicking because they were afraid they would not finish. I do not remember their dish coming out late, and that would definitely have been mentioned.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:45 am
You missed the point. Her dish would not have been perfectly cooked had the rest of her team not given her the time she needed to continue cooking the lamb, and then enlisting everyone to help her. Then she didn't admit that she needed help to get that perfectly cooked dish and never gave anyone credit for helping her.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, December 15, 2008 - 12:43 pm
i am pretty sure when Tom brought it up she agreed and 'said yes it was a team effort' or Tom said it was a team effort and she agreed.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, December 15, 2008 - 3:33 pm
I think the bigger point to me was that the first praise they gave was asking who made the dish Jamie made and praising that.. then to have Ariane win when she fluffed her task time-wise and needed help not just from HER team but from others there sort of sucks. Jamie has been runner up several times and I'm sure that weighs on them too. Plus of course the fact that I think Ariane should have gone home long ago (yes I acknowledge that she's cleaned up her act for the most part) and not even there TO win.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, December 15, 2008 - 3:45 pm
well, normally, the judges would not have even known if there was an issue in the kitchen unless one of the chef's brought it up. they only go by the taste of the food. they do notice if the food is served late.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:30 am
I may have this wrong, but wasn't Tom in the kitchen when all this with Ariane's lamb was going on? I think what Texannie says is right, though. The judges don't look at what happens behind the scenes for the most part because they aren't there for it . . . They look at the end result because that's what they see and taste.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:33 am
Oops. . .forgot this. . . Carla is growing on me, but I have a feeling she will annoy me tomorrow night. One of the previews from ages ago shows her screaming when she sees Martha Stewart. I am not wild about screamers. And, I still don't like Jamie. I think Rocco hit it on the head when he brought up her demeanor. Sigh. And, then I wonder about this. . . My son is an artist, and he can be quite moody. I just wonder if this is part of it with her. . . . .
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 7:40 am
Vegaschris, you are right, Tom was in the kitchen and saw the team effort. He even made a comment about it when they were all at the judges table. Ariane acknowledged it when he did.
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Vegaschris
Member
10-13-2008
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 7:58 pm
Somehow I missed this until today, but Carla is from my current town - Nashville. Maybe I need to start rooting for her. BTW. I was glad they didn't show her SCREAMING when she was talking about Martha Stewart. The first show or two, they showed that in previews. i just cannot stand screaming.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:07 pm
Heads up that it's another "super-sized" show tonight; an hour and a quarter. I was worried that I wouldn't make it through this episode, because normally I just don't watch anything that Martha Stewart is on, for a variety of reasons. However, I was delighted that she only appears in the first 20 minutes for the quickfire part. Did you see Fabio's face when she didn't like his dish? It was one time I really wished I could have tasted. I liked how it ended tonight, with no one going home, partly as a reward for everyone pitching in to help save two dishes.
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:26 pm
Looks like Gail is taking a break from judging while on her honeymoon. Wonder if it's for rest of season, or just a couple episodes?
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 9:28 pm
I agree, Beth. I must say one of those other female judges could give Martha a run for her money. Yikes! Actually, both of them were kind of tough, but they did say a lot of the food was sub-par. What's funny is, they probably did this back in August or September, but it was nice to give them a "Christmas gift." 
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 12:50 am
I am relieved that next time they are turning them loose simply to cook their best dish. The theme of the 12 days of Christmas seemed so artificial; they should have just drawn for entree vs dessert or some such. What does "Eight Ladies Dancing" really have to do with cooking?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 5:23 am
I figured there wasn't going to be an elimination as soon as Tom said 'i want to talk to all of them'. And i am thrilled they will be able to cook their own dish next week!!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 5:26 am
Me too Tex. Hopefully, now that they are letting them loose to cook their own food, they will knock the judges' socks off! The theme last night really sucked and was almost impossible to figure out how to cook to fit the theme.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 5:31 am
I was also hugely impressed in the way all the chefs jumped in and helped after the fridge disaster!! This group may not be the best cooks but they sure are a classier group than last seasons foul mouth crew!!!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 5:48 am
As soon as they started pitching in and helping those whose food spoiled I knew no one was going home. but does this mean we'll see a double eviction next week? I have to agree with the jugdes that the food last night seemed mediocre.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, December 18, 2008 - 6:01 am
I wonder if the did a non-elim round cuz of the potential moaning they might hear from the loser? Kind of a "no good deed goes unpunished" kind of thing.
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