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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Dang, I hate to hear that Jamie went home. I was hoping she'd be in the F3!

I love Eric Ripert. He's one of my favorite chefs. And to hear that Jacques Pepin will be a guest judge? Oh my!! I love that man! He's every bit the hilarious gentleman in person, too. I could've swooned when he shook my hand and then pretended like he was gonna kiss it!

Anthony Bourdain is always a great guest judge, too, and I hope he makes an appearance this season. I sometimes catch his "No Reservations" reruns on The Travel Channel at 2pm here.

The judge that's taken Gail's place is really rude and obnoxious and I hope he never EVER makes another appearance on this show once this season is over. He doesn't know what constructive criticism is, and his crass comments are offensive to me (and believe me, I do NOT offend easily!).

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Well, I was disappointed to see Jamie go, but, having now seen my tape, I didn't care for her attitude at the restaurant OR in the kitchen last night so I am grieving less!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I really didn't understand their decision making. Everything pointed to Leah leaving, and then they axed Jamie. I don't agree with that choice!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Is this Top Chef With The Best Attitude or Top Chef? I mean, if y'all are gonna picky about Top Scallop and all... :-) (And I've not seen the episode yet... would the judges even know about her attitude?)

ETA: Overall, I think Jamie is a better cook than Leah. And if Leah gave up last night, it's not the first time. She totally gave up during the restaurant wars challenge and that affected her team, too!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 12:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I really wish we could see more of the judges table. sometimes I feel that we are missing big parts of the decision making process.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 1:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Why do they never have the chefs cook the same thing. Wouldn't that be a very specific way to judge them? I don't mean to have it that way all the time, but once in a while I think it'd be interesting.

Puttergirl
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08-11-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puttergirl a private message Print Post    
Lexie_girl, I totally agree. Stephan should never have won- his dish was too simple to make. There was no challenge in it. Things like that always make me wonder how much is staged. Knowing that he won the Quick Fire; they probably also knew he would pick the easiest dish also. Why make one of the 6 dishes that easy unless you want him to win it???? Carla should have totally won it. Eric Ripert said, and I quote... "Carla's was the closest to honoring the original".

It was also a crime that Leah stayed and Jamie went. I thought Leah should have left weeks ago! I haven't been agreeing with the judges the last 3-4 weeks!!!!

Costacat- yes, the judges knew about her attitude. They called her out on it and discussed among themselves whether she should go over Jamie since she doesn't seem to care anymore.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/02/05/top-chefs-jamie-stefan-had-a-real-crush-on-me/

Jamie's interview with People magazine

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 4:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I think Costa meant did they know about Jamie's attitude, which we saw ehen she did confessionals about the menu in the lunch they were served.

Jamie got the dish she feared the most, but the mistake I saw was that for whatever reason, she wasn't ready to let the chef do a taste test on her dish.. that was when I started knowing she might be in big trouble. Everyone else got feedback and a chance to correct problems and I would think he'd have given her the heads up on the saltiness, had he had a taste.

I still thought Leah should have been gone.

I like Carla, but it did seem that once again, the whole bunch of them had to jump in to help her and she commented on how she couldn't have done it without them.. that's at least the third time for that scenario.

I'm sorry she's gone.

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
I was not a big fan of Jamie's because of her attitude, so I wasn't too upset that she went home last night. On the other hand, I did think she was, for the most part, a very good chef.

Sometimes the judges are very confusing, but coming from a TV background, I know that the editing is done to lead you one way and keep you tuned in for more. On the Bravo website Eric Ripert and Jamie both said that there was more to her debacle. Her food was inedible. She states that she knew it before she even went upstairs, but she figured not serving anything was worse than serving something bad. (Hmmmm. . .Did Carla say something like that last week?)

Jamie's bad attitude toward the Bernadin challenge goes on in her interview on the site. She didn't like the challenge. . .said others were taking notes under the table about what they were eating, but she didn't. . . .They knew what was coming. . . blah, blah, blah.

That said, I'd rather have had Leah gone simply because she irritates me more. If we have to hear that, "I wanna sweep wif you" one more time, I'm going to lose my supper.

Re: Stefan. . .Eric said that the lobster dish was more difficult than one would think. That said, I still don't like Stefan as a person, but I do think he can cook.

Eric also said when Leah gave up, he thought, "Bye, bye!!"

I do like Eric. I thought last night that he is such a gentle man. I'd love to eat at his restaurant, but I'd hope they serve something other than fish.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 6:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
I expected Leah to be sent home, and I'm very disappointed that they ousted Jamie. It's true that judging is not cumulative, but Leah has not shown Top Chef abilities. A good chef, maybe. Top Chef, no way. From what we've seen, Jamie is a better chef and a better leader.

I'm so happy that Jacques Pepin will be a judge next week. He's one of my all time favorite chefs, and he's a legend besides. His visit to Top Chef is long overdue.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Sea! That's exactly what I meant! :-)

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I love Jacques Pepin, when is this show and what channel.

Oh crap, its on Bravo, I don't get Bravo!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ha! As soon as Padma said they were going to be treated to a lunch with Eric & Tom with Eric's food, all of us viewers are thinking: Pay attention! It's not "Just" a treat! I can't believe Hosea did not notice the sear before season, and Leah could not figure out the fact that there was no butter in the white miso??? <I thought Leah was lucky to be working with some popular Oriental seasoning like Miso. Her mom is from the Phillipines.>

Costa, the judges might not have known the whole spam about Jamie's attitude, but for one, she even said it at the Judge's table how the dish she knife-picked was the most "boring" dish of the entire lunch. Every confession she gave was about how bored she was with those food. Eric & Tom could have picked up on her facial expressions as well through out that lunch. Then, after telling Eric how boring the dish he created was, she couldn't even remember the most basic thing about "More celery, less salt". Toby also said the fish Jamie cooked tasted metal-like. That is one of the worst things one could do to a fish dish!

But true, all that said, I still think Leah needed to go. As far as I'm concerned, she should have been offed at the Restaurant war episode.

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 8:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodie75 a private message Print Post    
I'm very sad to see Jamie go, and I agree, Leah should have been booted. Saying that, I'd be very surprised if Leah made it to the end, unless it was for drama.

I agree with Costacat in that I hope this season is the last we see of Toby Young. I don't like his remarks and witticisms at all. I actually want to mute his voice whenever he speaks.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Costa - I apologise that I didn't make it clear in my post above that I didn't think that Jamie deserved to be booted for her attitude.

What I meant to share was that her attititude on the last show made it easier for me to let her go - because she was a BIG fav of mine!

Kappy
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06-29-2002

Thursday, February 05, 2009 - 11:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kappy a private message Print Post    
Is it just me or does Leah play the "pity me and feel sorry for me" routine to keep getting by? <100>

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
I think the producers are making sure Leah stays in hopes of continuing the lovebird drama. Like most reality shows, they are hoping for more in the sex department.

I was sorry to see Jamie go. I didn't care for Carla in the beginning, but she has grown on me. Although I don't think she stands a chance of winning, I'd love to see her in the final 3.

While Stephan's attitude gets on my nerves, I must admit he is an excellent chef. I look for him to win.

After seeing the previews of next week's show, I'm anxious to see what happens to Fabio.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
All I can say is if Stefan wins, I would hate to work in HIS kitchen. I think the man acts like a boor and I would not want him telling me what to do.

While I know most of this show has to do with cooking, a top chef has to also be able to manage the kitchen. And often, these people? I don't think they could manage their way out of a paper bag (can you say "Leah"?). While Stefan may have the cojones to tell people what to do, you have to like and respect the person for whom you are working. I wouldn't like him at all and doubt I'd respect him much.

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Touche' Costacat!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Wasn't stephan the one who had a crush on Jaime and was making funny things out of an orange or something? If so, seems to me he was getting along with people and trying to make things fun. I do not see him as that unpleasant. And as someone who seems to be a masterful chef, he has earned certain rights (so to speak) to be somewhat bossy.

Guess we'll never know if the editing played a part in how he is in real life. I am rooting for him to win. The others just seem a level or two below him in talent. (Maybe he and Carla should open a restaurant together. It'd be named "Love & Bones." He could be the "bones" and she could be the "love.")

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
Personally I think Stefan has gotten bad editing. I have seen him in the background many times helping other chefs complete their plates, and also give encouraging words. He is usually the first one up to hug the chef who has been eliminated goodbye. And this last episode showed some humility in him when he spoke of being in the bottom three. I think Fabio has much more cockiness than Stefan.

As for being sure of himself, that he is. I would much rather work for someone who knows what they are doing and knows what needs to be done. Carla would try to be too much of a friend, Hosea would not know what the hell to do and let the kitchen run wild, Fabio would have his head so far up his ass that he would not know what was going on, and Leah would be trying to sleep with all the male employee's.

I think Stefan would be the best person manager-wise when it comes to winning this thing.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Zgood, good point. I really love Fabio, but the show before last, I thought he showed some truly cocky behavior. He kinda redeemed himself, but he seems like he has a deeply hidden anger issue. Fabio is a lot more cocky than Stefan, but Fabio is 100x more charming so I guess that's how he gets away with it. Stefan is a lot less charming....

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I disagree with the bad editing. If he didn't say the things he said, they wouldn't be able to show it, would they? And while I agree that most of the others wouldn't make good managers (Jamie, I think, would've been an exception), a manager doesn't have to be a jerk to be a good manager.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 06, 2009 - 8:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I just don't think Stefan's a jerk. And are all chef's managers? That Eric guy seemed way sweet and like too nice of a guy to be a good leader. (But keep in mind I know nothing of him other than what is shown on Top Chef, so maybe he rally is a tiger!)