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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Monday, March 16, 2009 - 11:21 am
That is so sad Sea. Or maybe she wanted it that way?? It reminds me how much I enjoy Sex Change Hospital on Discovery with Dr. Marci Walker. I love seeing the supportive families with these patients.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Tuesday, March 17, 2009 - 10:14 am
I do not love Katelynn. I did initially but then the way she has been acting just really gets under my skin. The constant talking with the piece of hair over her eye irritates me to no end! I think this season has kind of flatlined for me. Ryan intrigues me though. I just have to keep reminding myself of these kids ages and how I was then. Perhaps I am finally getting too old to watch RW. yikes!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 2:37 pm
Katelynn's body language speaks volumes about how confused she's been. Even after reassignment surgery, there's a lot to adapt to. Remember she's led her life as a completely different person until a few months ago (because her becoming a woman really wasn't complete until her surgery). I give Katelynn props for going on this show and learning how to deal with her issues on public TV. Within the transgendered community, there are a LOT of people who are still having problems adapting. Some have a chip on their shoulders for having been the opposite sex for so long, some act out because now they are finally who they are supposed to be, and so on. Many transgendered also feel "misplaced" (are they gay? were they gay? what ARE they?). It's a huge psychological thing and until you've actually met and talked to someone who's gone thru gender reassignment, or gotten close to someone, it's very difficult to understand. I, personally, think Katelynn is doing great. She is not going to respond to situations like you or me, but she is still quite brave.
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Jodie75
Member
08-26-2004
| Wednesday, March 18, 2009 - 2:59 pm
I totally, totally agree with what Costa said. Couldn't have said it better.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Thursday, March 19, 2009 - 4:59 am
for once they edited the show so you knew exactly what days were when - election day and veteran's day - there were moments when i wondered if they had moved on to another day but then you would hear a reference to "the results tonight" or "how did you enjoy veteran;s day" so you knew they were still in that day... good job on that... i enjoyed being reminded of election day - and (disclaimer that i supported both candidates until the very end and would have voted McCain if Barack was not there) I was disappointed in Chet (and Scott) not to grasp the magnitude of things in Barack winning even if they didnt agree on the candidate - this WAS NOT JUST ANY ELECTION and regardless of who you supported, that sense/emotion should be evident to anyone, regardless of age. In an interview, Ryan did laugh at the irony of the Army delivering the package on Veteran's day.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 10:13 am
wow..can't remember the last time I cried, IF EVER, during an episode of RW..lol my heart went our to Ryan. Does anyone know if he is there now?
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:08 pm
Yeah that was heartbreaking - nobody deserves to be forced into war... not even those that were dumb enough to join the army...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Friday, March 20, 2009 - 1:27 pm
Ryan voluntarily joined the army, as have all since the draft was ended - there is nothing at all dumb in wanting to serve our country - regardless of the motivations (tutition money, benefits, patriotism etc)
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Cnicm
Member
06-01-2005
| Saturday, March 21, 2009 - 4:57 pm
I read on an online article, I believe it was the LA Times, that Ryan is still in training and ships out April 15th. He had said in the interview his group was learning all the new things that had changed since he had been in the army.
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Roppiepie
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, March 24, 2009 - 4:38 am
What's dumb about joining the army? Or fighting for your country? Or being a citizen who wants a better world for their children and/or grandchildren? I salute Ryan, and all the other young, and not so young, US citizens who are willing to put their money where their mouth is and get the job done for America!!!
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Wednesday, March 25, 2009 - 11:30 am
It just seems like Ryan wants to do anything but be in the army, that's why I said it was dumb. He seems terrified and traumatized and yet now has to go back, that's all...
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 3:36 pm
Last night I just couldn't help but think that Chet was just so happy to have lots of air time while talking about Ryan. I can understand that they would be upset that Katelynn gambled so heavily, considering the loan she got (or donation, whatever). Kind of thought that their choice of vacation wasn't good for Katelynn's situation OR Devyn, who was too young to do much but shop.. lol.. they had a real divide between haves and not haves this year. Devyn and Katelynn shopping while Devyn spent hundreds and hundreds on the newly adopted puppy. Next week is the end of Brooklyn.. on to the Duel. Hope they all continue to be in touch with and support Ryan during his deployment. Wonder about his girlfriend. Seems like his decision to not share this with her shows that he doesn't trust the relationship much. I DO understand him not wanting a relationshi during his last deployment, so as not to be possibly leaving someone behind. Chet is lucky that he isn't back on former seasons.. when he pulled the covers off of Devyn. In LA, way back the one guy was kicked off the show for that.
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Thursday, March 26, 2009 - 8:35 pm
I've only watched this season sporadically. I've been reading the posts here to see if anything exciting's been happening. I'm looking forward to the Duel though!
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Sportygirl
Member
06-14-2005
| Friday, March 27, 2009 - 10:52 am
this is the first time I have watched a whole season of the RW in a long time. Don't they normally go on some exotic vacation? This time all they did was go a few hours away to Atlantic City. I assume the show paid for the trip but whatever happened to the Mexican or Caribbean vacations?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, March 27, 2009 - 5:03 pm
I was wondering about that, too.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, March 27, 2009 - 6:26 pm
Weren't they working those vacations? I seem to recall being tour guides or something. Maybe they skipped it this season since they didn't actually provide job for the housemates?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, March 27, 2009 - 6:56 pm
Most of the time they just got a great vacation, though often they spent the entire time drinking and huffing around with at least one person mad at at least one other.
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Malaka
Member
07-05-2007
| Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 11:18 am
This was the season of No. No job. No vacation. No maturity. No fun. No drama. Vapid. At least the show had one very real American hero, Ryan.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 11:31 am
While he may have been a "hero", Ryan's personality in the house was very offputting to me. Truly, I didn't really like any of these people much, but the guys were a huge disappointment all around.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 28, 2009 - 4:43 pm
Vapid but not the most vapid season ever. Less drunkeness less of the non-stop "go to the bar, drink, dance, make a fool of yourself, possibly get in a fight and/or be arrested" crap. So one more episode, followed by the reunion. It sure would have been a cool place to hang out, there on the water, etc..
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 1:47 pm
No hook-ups either. The reunion show was alot of bickering between JD, Katelynn and Sarah.I did not see JD as any worse than the two girls.I think Sarah was my least favorite.
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Vacanick
Member
07-12-2004
| Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 1:57 pm
BUT .... Ryan and Baya have started dating since the show ended. I thought that was very sweet to hear! 
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 3:06 pm
i thought the reunion show was a mess - much worse then any of the after shows this season ... but its cool that scott, baya amd devyn roomed together afterwards - a sign that they actually got along enough to want to keep it going when living in NYC
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Roppiepie
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 7:16 pm
Don't know where to post this...I just read about Melissa Howard Beck from R.W New Orleans, had a baby girl on 3/20. Fellow cast-mate, Kelly Limp had a son on 3/22. I think a 3rd cast-mate, Matt, had a son a few months back.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, April 02, 2009 - 11:39 pm
The last show and the reunion were indeed trainwreckish.. or mostly just boring. It was a relief to have it over.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:58 am
I saw the finale and half of the reunion. I thought the girls were disgusting to JD and totally agreed with Ryan. They were gonna let him take the fall for their stupid prank - they made me sick. Then they're all hugging the next day? and now I hear Ryan and Baya are a couple? what about his girlfriend? I thought he didn't want a girlfriend when he was going to Iraq? I've gotta finish the reunion show but <100>? I liked the boys much better than the girls and enjoyed the Chet/Ryan bond. All in all though, a pretty pathetic cast and probably the least likeable to me.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 12:53 am
Laura if you can stomach watching the rest of the reunion (lol.. not so sure it was worth it) but he broke up with his girlfriend after the show and then he'd come to NYC and stay with Baya and Scott and Devyn and gradually he and Baya got together.. talk/text every day, etc.
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Malaka
Member
07-05-2007
| Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 10:13 pm
I sure am glad that this season is done. I hope the next season cast is a little more mature.
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Laura11103
Member
08-13-2002
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 12:01 pm
I'd love to see Katelyn on a challenge season, THAT would be pretty cool... I finished the reunion... what a trainwreck - bicker bicker bicker... very immature... Ryan looked close to tears and I am sorry he has to go to Iraq, there is no silver lining - it SUCKS for him to lose a year over there, I hope he is ok.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, April 06, 2009 - 7:54 pm
I agree it sucks, but he did volunteer and the rest of his unit already did that time and he was willing to do the marching and getting the cheers in parades and unfortunately he did get called back. My ex was in during Vietnam (but he was in Okinawa repairing the systems that monitored Chinese transmissions. He was out when I met him but he was acutely aware that he could be called back at any time (he had volunteered). He wasn't and certainly took advantage of G. I. Bill to help pay for education, but there was always that obligation. Oone thing for Ryan, he added to his support system and Chet practically worships him, so hopefully that will help. The scary part is that he's going into a unit of new recruits, which I'd think would add to the danger I do hope MTV sort of follows him (and, please,not CHET).
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