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Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
yuk...worst season for me, ever.

I think Carla will come out of this fine. She was well liked and her stock had have gone up.

Carla learned an expensive and real leasson...so that is good.

Mack
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07-23-2002

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mack a private message Print Post    
I was really pulling for Carla but she blew it plain and simple. The show isn't called Top Cook, it's Top Chef and Carla, at least at the final critical moment, was not a chef.

Zgoodgirl
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08-22-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zgoodgirl a private message Print Post    
I hated Hosea winning, ugh! Could he have been anymore obsessed with Stefan? Personally I'm starting wonder if Stefan's attitude toward Hosea during the last couple of weeks were just to get under his skin. The way Hosea talked, it was more jealousy than anything else, imo and I think Stefan knew he irk'ed Hosea.

Eww, did anyone see Leah throw herself at Hosea after the rest of the chef's came in? I guess she might have been dumped after she go home *shrugs*.

Poor Carla. After Stefan, I really wanted her to win. I wish she could have put her foot down and told Casey no. There was a reason why Casey didn't win, and she should have taken that into consideration. And I agree, she must've said so much more for the judges to have that look on their face and for Stefan to go over to her to try to comfort her. I'm sure she would have won if she kept with her own menu.

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
I was sad like most of you, that Carla sabotaged herself. She knew it, too. You could see it on her face.

And, Stefan made me feel better about him in how he conducted himself last night towards Carla. He will be a success without a doubt.

Hosea deserved the win for last night but I'm not happy he is the Top Chef. I think I would have even preferred Stefan over Hosea since Carla couldn't win.

I am like most of you in wishing it had been different people in the finals.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Hosea talking about how it coming down to him and Stefan really was the icing on the cake really made me realize that I felt that Hosea was more concerned about beating Stefan more than he was concerned about his cooking.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Ugh I don't even have to watch now knowing Hosea won ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I was glad that Carla had too much pride to serve a dish that she knew had failed -

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I definitely thought Stefan was much more gracious as loser than Hosea was as winner. That last bit where he was so stoked about "beating Stefan" just put the nail in his coffin for me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
What's weird is that Casey wasn't all that forceful with her suggestions to Carla.
I think Hosea felt very inferior to Stefan. He made a point several times of talking about he wasn't an owner or classically trained chef.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I haven't watched yet but this a.m. I checked to see who won (at the end of my recording). Carla said she came on the show to show there's a different way to compete and on that I think she succeeded.

And while I'm sad to know she didn't win, I'm glad that Stefan didn't. Hosea would NOT have been my choice for a winner (I'd have preferred he went out when Fabio did), I'm OK with his win. I don't think he was the best, but he made it to F3 so I guess he deserved to win...

Panda
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07-15-2005

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I thought the finale was boring, not as exciting as ones in the past. Ho-hum winner, I just wasn't digging Hosea at all this whole season.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Hosea should have been eliminated a long time ago. Sux.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
blogs are interesting...

http://www.bravotv.com/top-chef/season-5/blogs

Thorandtara
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09-15-2008

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Thorandtara a private message Print Post    
Revisiting the braised celery controversy..I have worked in a very fine, highly rated restaurant, and in other let's say lesser restaurants. In general, celery is the answer to reducing salt in a dish. Let's say you are poaching fish...put celery in the water with the fish, and use less salt. In this case, you are not planning to serve the celery, just the fish. I've done this, and it works, but it really really works for poached eggs (at least if you are doing 25 or more at a time).

In the braised celery dish that Jamie lost with, it was over-salted. Why would you salt a dish that is often used as a salt substitute? Then a member of the clubhouse posted a recipe for braised celery that seemed to call for a lot of salt, which I just dismissed. After all, not everything you fnd on the internet is worthwhile information.

It was bothering me, though. I've been thinking about it and researching it. This is just my own opinion now...But I believe that a braised fibrous vegetable (celery, cabbage, brussels sprouts, etc.) is going to need some salt, not for flavor but for appearance and texture. The salt controls the fluid in the dish. One of the things they said about Jaime's celery was "mush." Too much salt could do that. So could not enough.

That challenge was about simplicity and classics. A top chef should know how celery behaves. More importantly, a top chef should know how salt afects the fibers behaviors.

Just saying

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Casey speaks out about last finale
http://sidedish.dmagazine.com/2009/02/26/casey-thompson-speaks-out-about-top-chef/#comment-10099

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Reading the blogs and watching the videos. I really liked this season and the different people in it. I think people got edited to be interesting, not necessarily in their favor as personas. Hosea seemed to get edited to be competitive toward Stefan, but on the videos he explained why winning top chef meant so much to him personally, and it was interesting.

I think this was the first year when I liked everyone pretty much, some appeared over reated, but when you read the review of the food it was not as bad as presented.

I think I enjoy this show because for a reality show there is very little scripting, unlike so many other reality shows.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 5:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
wow! i agree that Carla seem flustered, but I don't think she would have gotten to the final 3 if she had been awful. I also don't think the judges would have been secretly rooting for her if her food had been bad all along.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Wow, sounds like Ms. Casey should change her name to Bitter Betty and go crawl back under her rock.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 6:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I would also tend to believe Casey a little more if she hadn't choked during her finalee.

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
In an interview with People mag, Tom talks about Hosea's win and says that the judges made the right choice:

http://tvwatch.people.com/2009/02/26/tom-colicchio-i-would-pick-hosea-as-the-top-chef-again/?xid=rss-topheadlines

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
“It’s fortunate for Hosea that he put together a better meal than Stefan,”

Huh?? "Fortunate?" As in "lucky?" That totally makes it seem like Hosea's win was a fluke!

And what else was Tom gonna say? Oh, yeah, we did make a mistake. We picked the wrong winner. You know what that says to me??? THE VERY OPPOSITE!!

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
One thing I noticed this season - and I think we've mentioned it a number of times - is that the chefs this season were nice people. I didn't like Stefan's arrogant attitude, but there is a difference between arrogance and meanness. I thought Jamie was arrogant a lot. I wasn't wild about Hosea and Leah. I didn't like Jeff's ego. Radikha was too mousy. Sigh.

But, in contrast to other seasons, in the kitchen, this group of chefs was relatively nice to each other. They helped each other out. Could you see Hung or Marcel or Ian doing some of the really thoughful things these chefs did? In addition, when a chef bombed, he/she really didn't blame someone else for his/her failure or whine and complain.

I have to add that Stefan really, really went up in my book Wednesday night when they showed his kindness toward Carla both during Judge's Table and in the room while they were waiting. I've read more than one place that Stefan really was a nice guy, even though he is quite competitive.

I have to admit that as much as I didn't want Hosea to win, from the information out there, I think he deserved it. Sigh.

Vegaschris
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10-13-2008

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vegaschris a private message Print Post    
Julie, I don't know . . . I didn't take it Tom's interview that way. He said if he had it to do over again, he'd pick the same winner. I think his point is that the judges judge on the meal that particular night and not on the entire season of meals. . . .right or wrong (although I seriously doubt they always adhere to that "rule.")

Here's a question though:
How many of you think that RICHARD was the reason Hosea won? Would he have won with Marcel? Casey? One of the eliminated chefs as his sous chef?

Smokey
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07-08-2003

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smokey a private message Print Post    
Wow, just read the Casey blog/interview thing. She truly makes herself look awful. I didn't even give her a whole lot of thought and Carla took full responsibility for what she did to herself in the challenge. It was totally unnecessary for Casey to take it to this level. Very snarky.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, February 27, 2009 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I noticed when reading the various Bravo blogs, that many viewers were complaining about the judging for the finale. Many felt the final three should be judged on their total performance for the entire competition and not just his/her final meal. Many noted that it is "Top Chef" not "Top Meal of the Day." Hosea was consistently in the middle to the bottom of the pack while Carla and Stefan were consistently in the middle to the top of the pack. Had they judged the overall performance of the entire competition, it would have been between Carla and Stefan.