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Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Well said Neko. <77> It's an interesting show about a family going through something very few others will ever be able to relate to personally. I don't judge Kate's parenting by my own standards the same way I hope others don't judge my parenting by their standards. She is getting through these incredibly stressful years the best way she can see to do. Perhaps she will look back in a decade and think that she unfairly took out some stress on family, or that she could have relaxed a bit with the cleaning and nobody would have died... that's her journey. Glass houses, stones, etc.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Kate is no looking so "good" in tonight's episode. I mean really, get the potty seat and the polka dot flip flops yourself, Kate! I mostly like Kate but there are times that she makes it look like Jon is supposed to be her servant.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
And as far as the favor vs something you don't like (ie giving kids candy/gum), I think you gotta bite the bullet.

If you feel so strong about something then hire a babysitter and make sure the rules are enforced. If a family member/friend is doing you a favor (and/or just loving your kids) then you gotta accept the gum on the socks or hyper sugar high as part of the tradeoff.

Course that's only my opinion.

Dcaine
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06-29-2008

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 7:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dcaine a private message Print Post    
Texannie? Well, first of all Kate needs to realize that kids are kids and kids get dirty and should get dirty. They aren't being allowed to have fun. Why doesn't Kate have play clothes that can get dirty and grass stained and muddy and markered up and gummy and ice creamy?
WHY? Because she wants them to look all pretty and matching for TV? That's not healthy for them. So what, he got gum on his free socks and his bear. I'm sure he didn't care. He is going to grow out of those clothes in 6 months. It's not like Kate had to pay for those clothes. She is letting her own neurotic behavior rub off on them.

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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Julie, sure you deal with it, but truly you have never asked your parents or inlaws to not do something with/for your kids..you just sat there and were quiet? wow..you are nicer than me! LOL
i can remember my mother in law feeding my son and then bouncing (not burping) the hell out of him and wondering why he was spitting up. i asked her not to bounce him so hard.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Neko, About the argument you have that one can't judge Kate without meeting her...Well, if some can think she is wonderful without meeting her (and no one has a problem with that), then some can think she isn't so wonderful without meeting her. See what I mean?

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I'm going to rewatch tonight's new show before I fully comment on it, but of course what stuck out was Kate throwing the shoes out the car window instead of handing them nicely to Jon.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL, i am watching right now and two of the kids are sleeping at Beth's, and Kate commented on how they love to sleep on the furry rug. I can hear the comments now 'she won't even let her kids sleep in a bed at someone else's house cause she doesn't want the sheets to get dirty'

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
<77>

I generally like the Gosselin's, but Kate gets to me at times (lots of times). I know I'm not alone, so I'm fine with that.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Annie, that is probably my biggest problem--I am too nice when I SHOULD put my foot down.

My inlaws ALWAYS load my son (they haven't had Abby overnight or alone yet) with all sorts of junk. I know they do it cuz they want to show him love and they don't get to see him as much as they'd like. So they like to take him shopping and let him pick out what he wants. (So he comes home with double packs of pringles and a dozen frosting cookies, a box or two of pure sugar cereal, etc...)

He is a picky eater to say the least and they do stuff like try to make him eat whipped cream out of the spray can!! (I know they're just trying to get him to eat anything different, even if it's totally bad.)

But I really don't say much. I let my dh talk to them if he feels like it. Just not worth it.

Now if we saw them more often, I might say something. And if my mil was bouncing my baby too hard, I would for sure go "rescue" him.

And luckily my parents are "on board" with us about stuff. In fact, they are "stricter" about stuff than I am...

I actually do think Kate is a very good mom. I think she is a bit OCD but with 8 kids, I think it works out way for the best. I just think she should not expect so much from Jon. But Jon does not seem to mind and who am I to judge anyways???

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Annie I was thinking that too (about sleeping on the rug) especially cuz it was in the bathroom!! But goes to show that Kate is not that crazed, cuz otherwise she wouldn't let her kids sleep in a bathroom!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I like your example Texannie, and yes I have said things to my mom about how she's handling DD. I am very grateful that my parents will care for my child! I know they do a wonderful job, but I will still ask them to put sunscreen on and be very annoyed if they "forget". I will also ask that they not let her stay up until 10pm because I get the fall out for that one when I have a very cranky child to deal with the next day.

I haven't seen the latest new episodes, but I taped them. I look forward to seeing it.

Would I want Kate as my mom? No. I think she's too uptight about a lot of things. But I also wouldn't have wanted 7 siblings!

Neko
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08-03-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
Well, if some can think she is wonderful without meeting her (and no one has a problem with that), then some can think she isn't so wonderful without meeting her. See what I mean?

If that "Kate is wonderful" comment was directed to me, I don't believe that at all.

Of course people are intitled to their own opinion, but in a world filled with so much hate, wouldn't it be better if people though more highly of each other rather than slam them every time they do something differently than they would do it themselves??

I ended up missing the new episode tonight, or at least I was assuming there was a new one tonight, though there was supposedly a new "music video" premiered yesterday during "The Singing Office."

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 6:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Thanks Julie and Brenda for getting my example!
I got so tickled tonite with at the pottery place. Bless her heart, she is horribly anal about messes, but she knows it and at least, she lets the kids try stuff like that.
Sure, i think she should loosen up, be nicer to John, not snap, but I am also impressed with those kids. Sure they fight, but the kindness they show to each other is so touching. That comes from somewhere.

Did anyone see the other kids about the family with all those boys and the one girl?
it's terrible but my first thought was 'finally a mom with lots of pregnancies that wears makeup'! LOL

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yeah, but too bad she wears makeup (and clothes) from the 80s!! But they are a cool family and I just love Mark (the one with the no-hair disease.) For that many kids she really has a good figure too. Just get rid of the mini skirts, the metallic lipstick and the cheerleader gym shoes... (Maybe they can do a "kids by the dozen" meets "What not to wear" special....although I am so over Stacy and Clinton now!)

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Kate knows what is aired on tv. If she was so bad, why would she let the tv show her in good and bad moods?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
for real Twiggy, i would sure keep my bad moments off! LOL
all i can say is i am SO glad a camera doesn't follow me around and catch my parenting moments. i have teenagers and they are very similar to toddlers in many ways. LOL

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I've only watched Jon and Kate plus 8 a few times but those kids seems very bright and happy to have such a "mean" mother. I sure didn't see anything wrong with her. I admire her. I wouldn't have near the patience she has with that many kids. And if I was doing 4 and 5 loads of laundry every single day I'd be very anal about the kids getting dirty, also. My hat is off to her.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I just watched the show where they all had the flu. Big deal that she had a few of them lay in the laundry room! I remember laying in the bathroom as a kid because I kept barfing.

I had to laugh when she kept snipping at Jon about his breathing. That is who she is, kind of irritable, easy to speak her mind. That's part of makes her so colorful and interesting.

And I also laughed at their rule about not eating anything that kids make. I always kind of cringe at eating kid made food too. I do it, but I'm not happy about it. Actually, I don't like eating anything pot luck as I have no idea who made it or what kind of hygiene they have.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Brenda, are you my mother reincarnated?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Count me in as having to bed it in the bathroom when I had the stomach flu. Being one of 5 my mother just couldn't change the sheets that often especially since there usually was more than one of us sick at a time.

My mother often would tell my dad to stop breathing "like that"...they were happily married for 60 years.

On an aside...it's never very cool to criticize others' parenting....just not good form and says a lot more about the person criticizing than anything else especially when we all know no one is perfect.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
LOL Grandma, Sometimes I think I am my own mother reincarnated. Only my own mom is still around.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Jimmer, to answer your question many posts back about whether we think it is staged or are they acting...Kate addressed this (maybe Jon too) on an episode once. Not staged and they aren't acting. Kate said nothing is off limits.

I believe her. I do not think they retake scenes. All of those kids have been shown being nice at times and acting up at times. Jon and Kate have both been shown being very fun and loving to their kids and each other at times. At times they've both been shown yelling at the kids and criticizing each other. Kate's only rule seemed to be that the crew not wear shoes inside unless they had covers over them maybe. I think maybe one of the crew had special shoes he had to wear. I can't remember for sure. Kate also is shown shooing crew members out of the room at times. There has been at least one episode where they show some of the crew filming others in the crew. I think this happens from time to time in the regular episodes too.

About the gum, I would have done the same thing. I would have called then while it was on my mind. Gum is a pain to get out of clothes. From something Kate said, it seemed she or they were going to be going on a trip and instead of packing, Kate had to work on getting the gum out. While I don't like that she said to her son that the bear was going to get thrown out (I don't think she threw it out, in fact, I think she told Jodi on the phone that she said she was going to until he howled about it), I can see that she did so out of frustration.

I think Jodi should have not asked the kids if their mom lets them have gum. She should have said no or called Kate or Jon and asked them before giving them gum. Of course 3 yr. olds are going to say yes if they want it. They are in that wishful thinking age.

The kids are often at Jodi's. It wasn't just a one time thing. Maybe Kate would have let it go if it was. As far as waiting to say anything until it comes up in conversation the next time they were to see each other, Kate and Jon have said that they can't even do that with each other because things would never get talked about and resentment would build up so they deal with things in the moment.

As far as money to buy more clothes or that they now have lots of money, we don't really know their financial situation for one. For another, Jon and Kate don't seem to have the mentality of liking to throw away clothes because they are stained or have gum on them. That is wasteful and they don't seem wasteful. They seem like they were somewhat careful with money. (Being careful with money is a habit and habits are not easily broken. This was maybe the mindset Kate was in when she discovered the gum.) Kate was even working again at some point on the weekends after the sextuplets were born because they needed the money. They don't know how long the show and its perks will last. They have to raise 8 kids and probably hope all 8 will go to college. That is very expensive.

I am interested to see if Jodi and Beth never really show up on the show again. I'll believe it when I see it.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree with Happymom's assessment. The everyday life stuff is filmed as it happens.

Now, the interview stuff, we know that they do sometimes do retakes on that. But they often also leave the flubs in. I honestly don't see Kate as the kind of person who would have the patience for re-takes! No way, no how. LOL.

Jodi is quite clearly in this season's episodes. So is she supposedly not in the next season that's being currently filmed? Maybe that's the producers decisions. Who knows. The more I watch Jon and Kate, the more I'm convinced that although Kate has some issues, I think the other side has far more "issues".

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I have two girls, 13 years apart so essentially "only children", and was able to set aside their too-stained-to-wear-out clothes for messy play (mudpies, play-doh, etc.)
That said, if Kate let the kids get dirty and threw out the clothes that are too stained to wear again, there'd be someone who'd say that she's just wasteful because she gets the clothes for free.
I like this show and the family dynamics, and my 9-year old watches with me and loves the family, Kate included, too. Kate was cracking me up about the heavy breathing - years ago, DH asked me what the problem was and I told him he was breathing too heavily. His response? "I'm sure you'd prefer it if I'd just stop breathing completely"...lol Sometimes, honey, sometimes.