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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I didn't mean conniving and manipulated when I used the word "staged" though I understand how it could be seen that way.

With all of these "reality" shows, we tend to wonder if they do re-takes of certain scenes and how involved the production is in the events that they are showing.

As Sea suggested, pretty much everything we do is staged to one degree or another. It's just that if we mess up what we do or say in real life, we usually don't do it over. LOL – though sometimes we wish we could! So if one of them is having a chat with their kids, does the production team ever say that it didn't go very well and they'd like a retake? Or does the Mom ever say to the Dad, "Hey I'm going to say something to you here but it is all for the show".

I would think that with these shows everyone would be very conscious of the cameras at first and be on his or her best behavior. Then maybe they forget about it?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
From all I've heard about 'reality' shows, the people eventually don't 'see' the cameras.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i think the little ones are way too young to be conscious of the cameras and probably are so used to them being there that they are definitely being themselves.
i have never gotten the feeling that the producers are encouraging the parents to say or do certain things.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I just happen to see the gum incident show today (TLC has been running a marathon). I didn't think she yelled at Aunt Jodie at all. Maybe I am not nice, but I have called up people when my kids have broken a firm rule of mine at their house to let them know.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, June 29, 2008 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
There is no way I would yell or reprimand someone who has done such a giant favor for me like watch my kids. Not for something like a piece of gum.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
she didn't yell at all! it was very much a sigh and all she said was 'please don't give my kids gum anymore'. she was very calm. she was fully aware of the fact that Jodie was too sweet and the kids conned her.
and it wasn't just a piece of gum, it had gotten all over their clothes.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think she yelled but what bothered me more is that she made that phone call specifically to vent/reprimand her friend. I would have brought it up in the course of natural conversation and not with a specific call.

It's all good and I can honestly see where her circumstances might warrant non traditional behavior....for no other reason than to keep the well run company going.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i think she did it while she was thinking about it.
and i didn't let my kids chew gum under about 6.

Dcaine
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06-29-2008

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dcaine a private message Print Post    
Hi, I'm new here. I've been reading awhile but just registered. I noticed you all talking about Jon and Kate and Aunt Jodi?
Well, apparently Aunt Jodi and Beth will no longer be on the show. Aunt Jodi and her husband Kevin are no longer part of the family and Kate did something to upset Beth and Bob. So they are no longer talking either. Do you wanna read Aunt Jodi's sisters Blog?

Ophelia's Gramdma? Kate makes it look easy cause I hate to tell ya, but Kate has 5 nannies, a housekeeper and a personal chef. If we all had those things we would be supermom, superwife and superorganizers too.

I'd like to see them cut down on tv shows. Those poor kids have never had private times.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 2:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
and you know this how?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Color me skeptical.

Dcaine
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06-29-2008

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dcaine a private message Print Post    
Because a bunch of people I know have spoken to Jodi's sister Julie and have viewed her private family pictures with Jodi and Kevin and all the kids. And Julie has chosen our board to voice the unfairness of Jodi being fired as aunt and Jons threats to her.
Last week one of us met Julie and got 100% valid proof she is Jodi's sister.

Here are 2 links:
http://gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com/2008/06/aunt-jodi-tribe-has-spoken.html
and heres Julies blog about the firing of Jodi:
http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/2008/06/why-didnt-jodi-walk-away.html

It's so sad.
If it's true Kate is mean and Jon is too.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 2:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Those poor kids look so very happy and normal... a lot more happy than a lot of kids I see.

It takes a strong woman and man to raise sextuplets and twins. I get the distinct impression there are some people that just can't stomach to see a family like Jon and Kate created turn out so well.

Remember no one is perfect. It'll be a great day when we all suport one another instead of putting each other down.

Not sure if it's jealousey that prompts people to go out of their way to smear others or if it's something more sinister.

And of course every blog written on the internet is true.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i have seen those blogs.
it's really interesting how much bitterness is out there. no one is forcing people to watch the show, give things to the family ect. there is still free will.
i believe the old saying 'there are 3 sides to every story...yours, mine and in the middle somewhere lies the truth

found this along time ago, i don't remember where, but it's appropriate, i think

People talk. People care. They want to be in on everything or want to know nothing about it at all. We're all guilty. I'm guilty. We say half of the story. We tell what we want to tell, and leave the rest up to inevitable imagination. Even if we tell it all, we don't. It's almost impossible.
Every story can be a good story, even if it's sad. Sometimes it's good because it's sad. Every time you make and break ties with someone, there's a story there, and that story has at least three sides


Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Do the people who want the show cancelled worry at all what this might mean for the kids if Kate is really as unstable as they want us to think she is? Shouldn't it give them comfort that there are camera people around so that no harm will come to the children? Are are they just so bitter that the Gosslings are getting rich off of this that they can't see straight.

I wouldn't like it one bit if I knew they were going around to churches and telling a sob story about how poor they are when they are getting free hand outs and have a pile of money. But if people are foolish enough to open their wallets and lavish them with gifts, then I guess they are laughing all the way to the bank. Is that what is bothering those bloggers so much??

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
That church in Fresno, CA they went to happens to be my brother and sil's church. My sil went and said their talk was very inspirational, very much 'by the grace of God go I', very self deprecating and not poor me at all.
she didn't mention anything about 'love offerings' being asked for, so i don't know about that.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Brenda, I think you have hit the nail on the head.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Well, actually lately it looks like the bloggers are ticked because Aunt Jodi was such a liked person on the show, and now she won't be on the show. It looks like Jodi's sister, Julie, let it out of the bag the show approached Jodi to reimburse her for being part of the show and for her babysitting time, and Kate was against it and would not let it happen.


I just checked the episode list, and I am down to only having not seen 4 eps. Luckily, they are all being shown this week.

And I STARTED watching because of all the hoopla in the TV groups and blogs, so I am pretty sure this kind of stuff isn't hurting their ratings. Maybe it's helping.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I don't buy it that Kate is mean. Sorry, the kids look too well adjusted. She may be a bit more strict than another mom, but she has a lot of kids.
Why would anyone open their home for complete inspection and public viewing if they had all that to hide?
For example, she showed how she potty trained her children. I thought it was a bit strict, but I saw that very method used by a woman who potty trains for a living.


Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Sure looks to me like a lot of sour grapes floating around. I like the show. I like Jon. I like Kate. I like the kids.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
It's obvious that Kate's family has issues.

The only thing Kate has ever said publicly about her family is that they aren't a part of her life, while her sister and some other members of her family feel the need to air out their family's dirty laundry in an extremely public manner on internet blogs.

Now who seems like the worst person?

Dcaine
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06-29-2008

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dcaine a private message Print Post    
Twiggyish? I see it differently. I don't see well adjusted children at all. Mady threatens to stab kids with a pencil, Alexis throws up when she wants attention, Joel glazes over, there are constant meltdowns and hitting and screaming. And a psychologist in my group says at this stage all children usually want to "be big" and these particular kids are reverting to babyhood.
When you have a mother who yells and freaks out about everything the kids will do the exact same things. Look at Collin freaking out over getting dirty at golfing. Kids shouldn't worry about getting dirty.

Dcaine
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06-29-2008

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 5:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dcaine a private message Print Post    
It's obvious that Kate's family has issues.

The only thing Kate has ever said publicly about her family is that they aren't a part of her life, while her sister and some other members of her family feel the need to air out their family's dirty laundry in an extremely public manner on internet blogs.

Now who seems like the worst person?

So Kate's entire family and now Beth and Bob and several others I've heard she was very rude and condescending to are the bad ones? By the law of averages, that doesn't compute with me. She obviously has an attitude problem so honestly I think it's all Kate. Kate is the bad one. I just realized last night that you never see any of Kate's nursing friends or friends in general. Does she have any?
I just feel that Kate has alienated everyone in her life. And yes, I think it is all Kate' fault.


Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
she sure does a good job of covering up her contempt for all these people when she is on tv! LOL



i thought of the perfect example for the gum 'incident'.
and i think only parents, particularly mothers will understand this. i think it's easy for those with no kids to conceptualize the concept but until you btdt, you don't know.
anyway...your mom has been gracious enough to take your kids and babysit them while you go out and do 'x'. you are thrilled and grateful. you love your mom and you know your kids adore her as much as she adores them. anyway you go to pick up your kids and it's right before naptime/bedtime only to find them bouncing off the wall cause your mom let them have cake, ice cream and oh..some popcicles too. you are still grateful to your mom but you know the mess you will be dealing with as you try to calm down the sugar high so your kids can go to bed. you sigh and and say 'mom, please don't feed them all that sugar before bedtime, it's so hard to get them alseep and then they will be cranky in the am'
do you hate your mom? no! are you still grateful she helped you out? yes! is what you are saying wrong? i don't think so.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Monday, June 30, 2008 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
So Kate's entire family and now Beth and Bob and several others I've heard she was very rude and condescending to are the bad ones? By the law of averages, that doesn't compute with me. She obviously has an attitude problem so honestly I think it's all Kate. Kate is the bad one. I just realized last night that you never see any of Kate's nursing friends or friends in general. Does she have any?
I just feel that Kate has alienated everyone in her life. And yes, I think it is all Kate' fault.


I said that while Kate chose to take the high road and not comment on her family issues (since while they obviously have issues with her, I'm sure she has the same issues with them), they chose to publicly slander her person.
I only stated a fact, and that most people would find them to be the worst person for making issues and opinions that should be personal, public.

While I am trying to see and explain both sides of the picture, you seem to be very set in your obvious hatred of Kate.
Just because you've met Kate's family members, and have read their blogs, doesn't mean you are an expert in Kate's life, just as watching the TV show doesn't make me an expert either.

But at least I know that and am willing to admit it.

You judge her solely based on other people's opinion of her. Perhaps you should meet her in person, get to know her, rather than base your opinion on her from someone else.