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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Sherbabe, exactly how was it written? If it is Isiah 10:31, then it would be just the one verse, 31, in chapter 10.

If it was written as Isiah 10-31, it would mean chapters 10 through 31.

Jami
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10-08-2003

Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 4:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
I think it was Isaiah 40:31
But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar on wings like eagles; they will run and not grow weary, they will walk and not be faint.

I think Jon has one in a different color too. I wonder if one of the churches where they have spoken perhaps sell them.

I love that verse.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Jami, that makes a lot more sense. I just read your profile and like your quote. When my DD was a little girl and we were on road trips she'd sing that song over and over.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
That makes much more sense!

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Sunday, July 06, 2008 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
i thought it was 30. john had the shirt on in an interview in their show.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Well, I know if it was me I sure would take Isiah 40:31 for my own. I'd be saying it to myself over and over every day. That gal needs all the strength she can get.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, July 07, 2008 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
WOW!!! How mean to not let the kids eat the cupcakes on their bday at the cupcake place. Especially after Kate asked them what they do after they are done decorating the cupcakes, and the kids said eat them and she said yes. It was their birthday!! WAH! I will whine for them!! (Just cuz Kate didn't want their clothes to get messy??? Well then dress them in more appropriate clothes...)

Bunkynut
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07-07-2004

Monday, July 07, 2008 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bunkynut a private message Print Post    
IMO, the only money that should be paid is for all 8 kids. Put it in a trust that a 3rd party administers.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 3:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
From what I saw, she took the cupcakes home and they had to eat their dinner to get them.
I will say though that I didn't get to watch the end of the episode.

I see complete reason in getting them home to eat dinner before letting them have their cupcakes, birthday or not. They're still young children so I think it's best to keep them in a schedule, specials days or normal days.

That being said, if she had them home, and then still didn't end up giving the kids their cupcakes, that's just mean.

Jami
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10-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 5:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
The boys didn't get their cupcakes. They hadn't eaten their suppers,,,I left teh room for a minute, so I don't know if they ate any or just not enough. It was sad to see them watch their sisters eat their cupcakes.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
She doesn't make them eat all, just a concerted effort. The boys didn't eat at all.
It did break my heart, but I understand not making exceptions to rules.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I am with you Tex. No dinner, no dessert is the most basic of rules and you can't be swayed by big eyes and pouty lips. LOLOL And really, if the boys wanted the cupcakes that badly... they would have eaten some of their dinner. It was their choice not Kates to not have dessert.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
It was their birthday!!! Sorry, I think on their birthday, they should get to eat a cupcake!! It's a special day, so I think special exceptions are okay!!

BUT I was not even arguing that. I was saying that Kate had even agreed that after they decorate their cupcake, they could eat them. So she should have let them eat them when they were done decorating them--right there at the bakery. Good clothes or not!! Not one of the cupcakes was chocolate so any mess would have been easy to clean up.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
I think Kate even had the young ladies that worked at the bakery nervous about the mess. I am such a softie that I would have let my son eat his cupcake right away!

Oxies_luv
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05-13-2005

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oxies_luv a private message Print Post    
The boys didn't get their cupcakes that night since they didn't eat dinner. She told them they could eat it the next night. Turns out they completely forgot about asking for it, so they never got them at all.

Jami
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10-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
I enjoy this show (Or at least I have enjoyed it). Love to watch the kids.

I was pleased when I first watched the show hearing that Jon and Kate were Christians. And I know that some don't like it,,,but I was pleased to hear how they wouldn't consider reduction. I wantd to like them,,,wanted to admire them.

But as I watched more and more I got first uncomfortable with the way Kate speaks to Jon. Camera or not I do not speak to anyone the way she speaks to Jon. I think it is a very inportant thing to teach children to respect their father (and he teaches them to respect me, with how he treats me). I think she is doing a disservice to those children by letting them hear her belittle their dad. and I have literally gasped when she says things like, "Don't listen to daddy,,,he's mean."

Still,,,I wanted to like them.

Then Kate's complaining got to me. I know it is alot of work and she is exhausted. (This may sound bad,,,,but I just want to spill it and get it over with,,,I have thought it for weeks.) I don't see that it is much more exhausting to do what she does than what I did (and lots of mom's I know.)

I have 3 kids, At one point, I had a 3 year old, a 2 year old and a new born. I never had any help (My husband did what he could when he was home,,,but so that I could be a stay at home mom he worked loads of overtime.)For the first 5 years or so I could count on my hands the number of times we had a baby sitter.

I don't know. Maybe it is time for me to stop watching. But I still enjoy the little kids.

Last night really bothered me. Actually the past several shows have really bothered me.

I still want to like her,,,but she seems so cold at times. And seems almost proud of her OCD.

Now I read that Jodi and Keven aren't going to be one the show next season. They were such sweeties.

Oh well,,,,just venting I guess.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Oh boy! I can't wait to watch the cupcake episode. LOL.

It does sound mean to me. What is one cupcake one day out of the year going to hurt? I understand about consistency and not flip flopping on rules, but there's also something to be said for being adaptive.

It really is too bad we don't get to see more of Kate's family. Is her behavior learned from her parents? Are they even more rigid? I think we all know someone who's a bit whacked out and then we meet their parents and we go "oh, now I see where they got it from!" LOL.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm going to be a mean mom then. LOL
Cause I would have made my kids make an attempt at dinner before getting their cupcakes, birthday or not.

If they were older children, maybe not, but at age 4, I feel it's still good to keep consistency, so the kids the night after getting their cupcakes can't be like, "I'm not going to eat dinner and still get my dessert."

Chances are, after the boys had to watch the girls eat their cupcakes, I would have asked them if they'd like to try and eat some dinner again, and if they were still not going to do it, then no cupcakes for them.

I guess I'm just going to be a mean mommy. :P

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I would have let them eaten the cupcakes at the bakery after all that work. Kate was not having a good time there. It's not her thing to see the kids getting their hands messy. It's just not her thing. I know a few people who are just as anal about the cleanliness of their kids. I don't judge her for it, I just find it sad that the kids aren't let to be kids sometimes. Kids get dirty.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well I am a mean mommy sometimes, but not on their birthday!!

I do think i remember Kate saying something like she and Jon were totally opposite in the way they were brought up. Jon was brought up with a lot of vacations, $$, etc and Kate was brought up with no vacations, no $$ and a lot of discipline... Something like that.

I also think in general it is a good idea to be consistent and not let a kid have a cupcake if they didn't at least try to eat some of their dinner. Just not on their bday!!

I NEVER try to get my kids to "finish their plates." There is too much pressure today with weight issues, etc. My kids will eat if they are hungry. I will not force the issue. (They also won't get dessert if they don't eat--but hey, I don't even do dessert anyways--so it is not an issue!!!) If it is a birthday or something then we do have a treat, but no dessert on a typical day...

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I ditto Mamie!! Kate should have just let them eat them there. A four year old can eat a cupcake without getting too terribly messy! That is what soap and water is for anyways!!!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Agreed Julie. Too many people have weight issues and I attribute part of that to the "clean plate club". Dessert is not a reward for cleaning your plate. You should haven't to over eat to get dessert. We eat dessert as a part of a balance diet.

A better approach is to avoid the conflict from the start! Kate could have timed the cupcake making for after lunch. I think it is just mean to expect young kids to make a cupcake and then not eat it! I wouldn't make myself do that, and especially not on a birthday. Yes, we all have to learn delayed gratification, but not on your birthday.

I'm sure as a parent I've done a thing or two that an outside would say is "mean". We all do. So I'll go on record as Kate not letting them eat their creations was mean!!! And tossing the boys cupcakes was double mean.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Didn't they go to the bakery after church? I would think that was the afternoon.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Uh oh - am I the only mom who does dessert first at least once a month?? We've done this since DS was little, and he still eats his supper. It isn't "unlimited portions" of dessert, but in the summer (ice cream)or on special days, we'll do dessert first! Life is too short to NOT enjoy the good things!

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I like that, Teach!

I was lucky that both of my kids were good eaters. Our only rule was that they couldn't say they didn't like something unless they at least tried it. They more than not, liked whatever it was.