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Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Monday, November 10, 2008 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I think Jon and Kate are great parents that love each other and their kids. I think they are doing a great job with that many kids. I think anyone that judges them should walk a day in their shoes for others to ridicule.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Count me among those who defended Kate using the exact same arguement as Twinkie. But I have to say that after finding out new information that I can't continue to defend her at all. There is a webpage out there that was derided for the longest time as being mean, slamming the family but it has come out recently that the author is in fact whom she said she is (namely Jodie's sister) and that what she has written has come from Jodie and has her approval.

Jodie's sister's website

Spend some time rooting around in there and you just might change your opinion about Jon and Kate. I know that it put a sour taste in my mouth when viewing the show and I stopped watching awhile back.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Other than Mady's frequent meltdowns (which we have seen from day 1 of this show), the kidlets all appear to me to be having lots of normal fun and normal behaviors. They are experiencing so many wonderful trips and local outings that I can't see how this will scar them for life, or whatever the fear seems to be.

I also see Jon & Kate as loving parents. How else would these kidlets be so seemingly well adjusted?

It may initially have been an oddity that TLC wanted to film, but now it's pure entertainment for some of us. I LOVE seeing those children, and I honestly don't see anything wrong with Jon & Kate making hay while the sun shines. It won't last much longer, as the cuteness factor will wear out soon.

After the sextuplets enter kindergarten, there probably won't be much more show left, and I'm sure Jon will return to whatever career he had and maybe Kate will return to nursing. It's not really any or our business how they earn their money. I'm just glad they've shared their kidlets with me, I've enjoyed every episode!

And the website of Jodie's sister has been floating around for some time now. It doesn't matter at all what she says, it doesn't change my enjoyment of this show.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I wish I could still enjoy the show and don't begrudge anyone who does. It's just that once I found out that they have full-times chefs that make gourmet, organic meals for breakfast, lunch and dinner, multiple nannies and house-keepers, that they do not feed, bathe or dress their children (except when on camera) and that Jon and Kate are not even in the home almost 50% of every single week it took away the innocence of the show for me. That's the factual stuff and doesn't include the gossip about family relations, what they did to Jodie, their parents, etc which is more nebulous and up for personal interpretation. I hope it's just the reaction to a bit of fame and that the family finds balance again once the show is over.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Just from the past few years of the show, it is very clear that Kate knows her way around the kitchen, so I don't buy the gourmet chef thing for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And Jon has been shown SO many times taking care of those children around bath/dressing/diaper time, and he is incredibly comfortable and skilled with handling all of those duties.

I don't believe that website. It reads more like sour grapes to me. Seems to me we would have heard some rumblings from some of the camera and production people long before this, if those children were not being taken care of by their parents.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
huk'd, i am with you.
ok, so that website has been 'proven' to be written by someone who knows, but what 'proof' do we have that what is written is true?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Sour grapes sums it up for me. Jon and Kate are loving parents. The kids seem happy. And that is all that matters.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Could they have been any cuter on last night's Hawaii show? And it was so nice to see Mady with her big spontaneous hug of Kate when she did well with the hula dancing. I think Mady showed that she needs some individual attention, because she sure enjoyed that dancing!

Alexis and Leah are TOO cute for words, with those flowers in their hair!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 7:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i missed the show last night, but I think that's Mady's issue; a need for attention. I think she would also be one of those kids regardless of the 6 little ones or tv. Unfortunately, that does magnify the need.
i think also people forget that even though these kids are raised by the same parents, they are individuals. get a group of 8 kids together and you will see all different personalities.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well she (Kate) certainly has to have a lot (and I mean a lot) of help if she was able to write a book about her life!!!

They say the kids are forever changed because of the cameras. I would agree, however, just by virtue of the kids being sextuplets (or a twin with sextuplet siblings), that alone would make it difficult to be "normal." Though the amount of exposure this family is getting is HUGE and probably will forever alter these kids. Might be good. Might not be.

I do think J&K are very loving parents. BUT I do hate the way Kate treats Jon much of the time. Although she does seem to be getting better. I think she is learning that she does not look so good on some episodes. She even admitted so.

The previews for the marriage thing are WAY. TOO. DORKY. even for me. And I am a BIG. DORK. and fall for the fake and cutesy stuff fairly easily! I sure do not get all choked up like they are trying to get you to be when they do scenes like that close up of Jon's face looking deeply into Kate's eyes...

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm sure they do get more help than we are shown, but I'm not going to give much weight to the sister's rantings. We have no knowledge of the sister's character or whether she may have issues of her own. Having a relative who's a pathological liar, I know how easily some people can tell their side of the story, a very fictional side.

Kate certainly wouldn't win a mother-of-the-year award from me -- she's too uptight about things and snitty with Jon. But then again, how many of us are perfect? I appreciate them opening their doors to us, letting us see the warts and the good stuff.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 9:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
The previews for the marriage thing are WAY. TOO. DORKY. even for me. And I am a BIG. DORK. and fall for the fake and cutesy stuff fairly easily! I sure do not get all choked up like they are trying to get you to be when they do scenes like that close up of Jon's face looking deeply into Kate's eyes...

LOL I am laughing because I felt the same way, I love weddings but I am not interested in theirs.

I DO have sour grapes because I have ONE child and we have not been able to go on a weekend trip never mind skiing, Disney or Hawaii!!!!!

I do like seeing the kids and I to me they all seem pretty well behaved, even <100> Maddy..lol

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Rissa, that "factual stuff" is untrue. They do get help from time to time, but nowhere near what has been suggested.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I wonder how many of us would look completely different than what we think we do if we were shown ourselves on camera. (did that make any sense?)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
If TLC wanted to get me teared up, all they had to do was play the "How they met" clip here:

http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/2008/10/cnn-clip.html

I think you have to watch the clip there first though (Which by the way I think kind of defeats the point that the "Truth Breeds" person was trying to make...)

Also I laughed my booty off at the Regis&Kelly clip. They set up these cute oversized crayons and pencils on the set for the kids to play with during the interview. Well they should have known that kids turn most things into weapons (either on purpose or by accident) cuz Mady accidently bopped either Alexis or Leah on the head with the crayon. So for a good portion of the clip you hear a wailing child!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Here is a direct link to the how they met video. It made me tear up. I think because it was "real" and not forced like the next JK+8 episode will be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU-R0R9PZR8&eurl=http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/2008/10/cnn-clip.html

Here is the Regis/Kelly one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTG8Ut-ddys&eurl=http://truthbreedshatred.blogspot.com/2008/10/cnn-clip.html


Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 5:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
www.gosselinswithoutpity.blogspot.com

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
For all of you who think this is all sour grapes, I so agree with you. Kate may not always be nice and sweet, I can see that, but how many of us are nice and sweet all the time, and she has never said that she does everything alone, she has so many times said that she really appreciates all the help that she gets with the laundry and other things. Small kids also don't really know how to act happy when they are not, example Maddy, who has her issues, but for the most part all of the kids are smiling and happy. Both Jon and Kate are very loving to all of their kids. Also how very fortunate they are that they are able to take those wonderful trips. Under other circumstances they would not ever be able to do the things they do or have the things that they have. It is so expensive to raise a family and this is wonderful that they can have "Economic Security" for their large family. And finally, I have really enjoyed each episode watching those adorable and quite well mannered childen growing up.....and look forward to another season. Ok so much for my rant, but I for one really enjoy the show...can you tell...LOL

Tess
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04-13-2001

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 2:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tess a private message Print Post    
I'm fairly new to the show having only watched for about 6 weeks but they've packed a ton of shows into those 6 weeks. Several episodes are on every afternoon here and some days we have Gosselin Marathon time.

I adore those kids, each and every one of them. My dream was to have a house full of kids and we ended up with just the one sent to us from heaven via Korea. I love that not everyone is perfect. I like how Jon and Kate see themselves and can learn to change what they don't like and emphasize the good parts.

Yeah, I'm disabled and have spent 90% of my child's life in the hospital or in bed. My husband is overworked but at least now he can work from home. If there were cameras in this house there would be a whole lot of non-perfect 24/7. Nope we don't have any help at all but could really use some. Not money, physical help. All that being said, do I think it is unfair that the Gosselin's get offered so many products and trips, etc. Goodness no!! Do I think the kids are hopelessly exploited. Again, no! What I do think is that they will have fabulous memories when they are older. Memories of going in the ocean and watching turtles, making leis and learning to hula dance. They will remember the house on the beach with all those decks and the pool and the waves of the ocean.

Those kids have something my daughter will never have even without the TV show and offers of trips etc. They have a mom who can be in the kitchen and freak out about germs. They have a mom who can drive and take them to make birthday cupcakes even if one didn't eat dinner and never got hers. They have a mom who could make the trip to Disney World and be up at 6:30 AM for breakfast with Mickey. They have each other and none of them will ever be alone.

One thing they do have in common with my munchkin is parents who love them unconditionally and individually with all their quirks and different traits. They are adorable and I love watching them and will continue to watch as long as they are on my TV.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Tess, very well said!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Just took a look at your profile...gorgeous daughter. I could be prejudice as my grandchildren are half Asian.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
That reminds me that Gosselin children argued over who is "more Asian" lol. During the show where Jon cooked a Korean meal the kidlets were arguing that Alexis wasn't Asian, but they were. It was hysterical!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
But how funny would it have been if they argued the opposite, if the argued about who looked "more Caucasian."

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I was talking about something that happened on the show that I thought was funny. <93> I.enjoy.the.show.period.

Serate
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08-21-2001

Wednesday, November 12, 2008 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Serate a private message Print Post    
I remember watching the show when it first aired and thinking that they all wanted to be like Daddy, and Alexis and her attitude, was like Mommy hence Alexis wasn't Asian.

I like the show too,