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Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Ya know, those Duggars can obviously afford all these children, but they are playing with fire, IMO. Sooner or later, they're going to probably have a child with special needs (she is getting too old to keep pushing out babies, God's will or not), and then we'll see how they handle things. I certainly wish them well, but I think they're kind of crazy.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Hukd, sour grapes was the first thing that came to my mind too. This author obviously hates Kate but has something for Jon.

Bearlee
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05-18-2005

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bearlee a private message Print Post    
One thing that pops into my head when reading the blog about Kate is that they site a Pittsburgh newspaper yet they live in Berks County which is near Philadelphia, the other side of the state. Sounds fishy to me.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Wow, so much vile and bitterness. Can't you just imagine the spittle coming out of the author's mouth as she/he spews this stuff? LOLOL No idea what Kate is like in real life but this person seems to have some personal issues they are projecting onto her.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I'm not going to read it. I like Kate just fine and want to keep that way.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I didn't even bother with the link. Kate has said on talk shows that there was just alot of hateful nastiness out there when they first had the babies.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
They apparently have a few stalkers, too. Which is scary.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
The fact that someone thinks a person would intentionally try for 6 kids is just crazy. Fertility treatments for the most part are not covered by insurance and are very expensive.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Saturday, June 14, 2008 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
just for discussion...(ie the link I posted on Jon and Kate) altho it is curious that they dont have contact with her family - and they will show their wedding video w/ her dad's face 'blurred' - bottom line, I too have a "family issue" - so its easy for me to take things at 'face value' - 2 sides to every story etc... (I wouldnt want my brother to post about me!! lol)

btw does anyone know about the Duggers and thier status for taxes? (again, I too am skeptical but I read that they are tax exempt - and their home is considered a pastor's home? again, I have no problems with it - other than, how come my kids have problems!! what? are all these well behaved kids actually "stepford' kids!!) (no I know there is reality, and reality tv!!)

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 12:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
There are so many families that are divided. Kate is close to her brother so who knows what goes on with the rest of her family.

The Duggars do all seem rather placid. Maybe it's something in the water. LOL

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I always think Kate looks frazzled all the time. I don't think anyone would intentionally put themselves through something like that. Also, I find her very honest.
The kids are obviously well cared for and seem fine.

Sabbatia
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08-15-2005

Sunday, June 15, 2008 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sabbatia a private message Print Post    
There certainly is a lot of kate hate out there....but I don't think those people realize that the second that Kate loses control of the situation, there will be total chaos....and someone could get hurt. She has no choice but to be regimented. Control freak?? You betcha! She has to be to keep the babies safe.

As for showing love and affection for the kids...My mom was just like Kate. Her word was the law and things had to be just so. BUT, there has never been a doubt in my mind about how much my momma loves me. She was strict with us because she loved us. She has those times where she is affectionate to the children, and they know they are loved. BTW, I laughed when I read what the meanies said about her ruining Mady. Anyone that has more than one child knows that every child has their own unique personality, and some children are more difficult than others.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Mamie - after the last babysitting her brother and Jody did - I wonder how long that will last!! lol - that's a lot of kids to babysit for - I wonder if Jody had help, or was it just her?

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 9:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
They would be a handful!

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
How could those Duggar kids ever get in trouble, they have too many chores to do!

That whole situation boggles my mind, but I do admire them. More power to them, I could not live that way.

The kids seem to have nice, "normal" life expectations (teacher, fireman, etc.) rather than be obsessed with TV stardom and so forth. Good for them.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
Reader, the camera guys and the producers help out quite a bit, so I'm sure it's wasn't completely as "frazzled" as it was edited to be on the show.

Jody loves those kids so I doubt she'd ever stop taking care of them, and other than the having to carry the "kid toilets" around, he didn't seem to be having that much issue either. LOL

I started to read the link, and already on the "first Chapter" (Seriously? There's "Chapters" in this poster's hate for Kate?) there were problems with their reasoning.
I won't waste my time with the rest. As everyone said above, that poster obviously has an unhealthy hatred for Kate.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Don't forget, tonight I believe, they are having the one hour special.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I don't really like how Kate talks to Jon, but it's their marriage and he still seems to like her.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
The only real concern I have about Jon/Kate is that I think it might be nearing the time to close shop. They had a special episode awhile back, sort of a behind the scenes deal and it just highlighted how intrusive the whole production process is. Their house is always filled with crew, the kids crawl over cameras, play with the audio equipment, etc. Very cute as toddlers but the episode made me think about the Dionne's and although it's a half century removed... there is a lot in common. I have read a lot of interviews with the Dionne's and a lot of what they say about their first few years could easily come out of the Gosselin's in a few more years. Add that to the mini-celebrity the family now has to deal with in public? I don't think it's been an issue to this point but like I said, I wonder it the time is nearing when pulling the kids out of the limelight is the better path.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think the cameras aren't there as often as some may think. They aren't there 52 weeks a year. They have a schedule of a certain amount of episodes and days they'll shoot. All their road trips, doc appts, special happenings are all pre planned so the crew will be there.

I think these kids have a great starting point because of all the hard work Jon and Kate have put into the kids regardless of the intrusion of TV cameras. And hopefully they all will be able to go to any university without worries about the cost. These kids will be fine not because of TV cameras but because of their parents.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I think that this family would draw a crowd even without the camera crew...LOL!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 1:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
"These kids will be fine not because of TV cameras but because of their parents." Well said! ITA!

I don't always like the way Kate talks to Jon or the way Jon talks to Kate (or the kids sometimes!) However, I think what we are seeing is reality. They seem to love each other and their kids very much. I'm sure it isn't easy being perfectly patient all the time when there is noise and crying and disagreements and kids being kids etc. I think those kids are thriving and will continue to thrive. In spite of 8 kids, I think Jon and Kate are still friends! They may not always get along, but they seem very solid and committed. A lot of marriages with a lot less stress fall apart.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
The cost of day care for the sextuplets would be prohibitive, even if Kate did go back to work full time as an RN. So since she's basically with those children 24/7, I think she does remarkably well. Her structure may seem anal to others, but you can tell that it is needed to maintain some kind of order. I loved it when she said that she's not a short order cook, and they have to eat what she makes. And I admire her for not screaming when they're all yelling at the same time. She has composure that I would never be able to have. I would be exploding all over the place! At least Jon gets out of the noise by going to work every day!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I read the comments posted in that link and found them quite interesting. Obviously there is a lot of bitterness (and likely jealousy) that they are getting free trips and free this and free that. Sure, it's not fair, but it doesn't make them bad people.

I do find Kate to be a control freak and I do wonder what she'll do when those kids are all off at school and she's home alone all day, but do I worry about those kids? No way. It's so obvious they are loved and cared for and treated with respect. I don't think I'd want cameras watching me parent at stressful moments.

And like others, while I do find it curious that they don't have extended family around, you really can't judge that. I have estranged family members and it's not because I'm a bad person. Sometimes you have to draw boundaries to protect your kids from unhealthy relationships or from being around unhealthy behaviors.

But it was an interesting read. I don't think reading it spoiled my love of the show. I'm not naive enough to think they don't get a lot of help with those kids and that their vacations are not free and all the behind the scenes stuff they get to do at various places isn't completely set up by the show.

I'll be interested to see how long the show goes on. The Roloff's are successfully filming with teens in the house, so this show could go on for a long time and I do suspect that Kate has grown to like the spotlight. I don't think that makes her a bad mom.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
"And like others, while I do find it curious that they don't have extended family around, you really can't judge that. I have estranged family members and it's not because I'm a bad person. Sometimes you have to draw boundaries to protect your kids from unhealthy relationships or from being around unhealthy behaviors."
Amen!! I have a mentally ill sister in law. We have contact with her now, but it's limited.