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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 8:51 am
was it Katie who was the last to make top 20 with her roommate as the final one to go home? and she didn't want to be in the top 20?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 9:03 am
Yes, Konamouse. She was the one who said she wouldn't try out again if she didn't make it this time. It caused the judges to reconsider and almost lost her that final spot in the top. But they let her through and I can see why -- her dancing is fabulous. So, while her attitude turned a lot of us off during auditions, she certainly has proven herself on the dance floor.
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Roteach
Member
06-01-2003
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 9:54 am
And wasn't it Twitch who was the last to be cut last year in favor of Hok? I was happy with the final four although I hated to see Mark leave.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:02 am
I thought Nigel said Joshua had no CLASSICAL dance training, not FORMAL. Am I wrong?
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:05 am
I don't know if this is true or not, but someone told me that this was the 3rd year that Twitch had applied and he only got accepted this year because he told the judges that he finally took some formal dance classes. Can anyone verify or dismiss this info?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:06 am
You are correct Yankee -- I caught that last night as well. So, by classical, does he mean ballet? Ballroom?
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 11:07 am
actually, i believe that the whole "katee's attitude" thingy during the auditions was due to the way the question was asked. i think her response was honest. nigel took it to another level and basically called her a quitter.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:33 pm
I agree Dovez, I also think Katee's response came across as being very defeated, which is why Nigel took it as quitting. If she had said something like "I will never give up dancing, but if I don't make it this time, then perhaps this is not the path for me and I'll find another route to dancing" then I don't think that quitter attitude would have come through.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:38 pm
I agree too. I always thought Nigel et al took her statement the wrong way. She lives and breathes dance; can't imagine her giving it up. I'll bet they are glad now that they let her in.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 12:49 pm
I really like the judges this week. They are saying so many positive things about these fabulous dancers. I like how they or at least one or two of them feel any one of the final 6 deserved to be the winner. So sad for Chelsie and Mark. It is part of the show though.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 1:05 pm
I'm just estatic that Joshua is still there. Back off Dovez! Lol.
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Dovez
Member
08-27-2005
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 2:28 pm
grrrrrrrr
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 6:46 pm
I had forgotten completely that "the quitter" was Katee! That makes me happy....she has probably learned a valuable life lesson. I was actually with the judges on that one and probably would have chosen the roommate because she showed more heart. But look what we would have been missed if that would have happened! I have a feeling she will believe in herself from here on out.
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 6:57 pm
THe problem I had back then and still have with that question is this: From what I remember, they didn't ask her if she was going to quit dancing, they asked her if she would come back and try out for the show again. She said no. I don't fault her for that..this was her second attempt to get on the show, and she may have felt that it wasn't the right way for her to go. I was surprised at the time how upset they got at her answer, and I still am.
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 7:14 pm
She had tried twice....twice...and she knew she had gotten their attention....and her response was she wouldn't try again if she didn't make it. Theirs is a business of rejection and I think they thought that if she already was that discouraged, then she probably didn't have what it would take to survive. It's not enough to be a great dancer. There are a lot of those. You have to be willing to work it until you get their attention and make them think you are hungry for it and will work to perfect what they need. Plus even if she would have never tried for it again, the "correct" response during an audition is "Yes, I will keep trying until I make it because I really want this."
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, August 01, 2008 - 8:55 pm
Yesitme, while I agree with you, she didn't say "I'm going to give up dance" she just said that "No, she wasn't going to try out again." That's not quitting in my mind, that's just changing tactics. If I failed repeatedly with one aspect, I'd definitely step back and try a different avenue instead. I can't fault Katee for that.
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 5:08 am
Yeah I understand what you are saying, but I guess I believe they were simply picking people for the show and she didn't increase her chances to get on by saying that. She needed to express that she wanted it. It's just like a job interview... people want to believe you want to work for them, but also not feel that if you don't get it you will never apply to that company again. Employees who are easily defeated or don't really appear to want it very much are generally not seen as great applicants. Sometimes it doesn't indicate anything about their true potential, but usually someone who is hiring doesn't have the time or inclination to ferret who they really are out. Still, she is young and I think that in life people give you free passes for times like that (because we have all been there), so as in this case it isn't necessarily defeating behavior. Just self-limiting. And there is definitely a time when you have to just give one path up and alter the dream. But they could have just as easily picked the roommate for the show and Katee wouldn't have gotten this experience and we wouldn't remember (or know)what a great dancer she is. That would have been sad. But those split second decisions change the world every day.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 9:22 am
What Yes said. The auditions ARE interviews. You have to prove you can do it and that you want it. Katee failed in the latter. While she is a phenomenal dancer, I don't think she really REALLY wanted it. (And trying and failing twice isn't exactly getting beat down. That's hardly even a rejection when you consider the thousands that try out.)
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Keldogg
Member
08-12-2005
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 9:48 am
I guess I give her props for honesty. That's how she felt at the moment. I never looked at her as a quitter, maybe others saw it that way. I looked at her as being honest about her feelings at that moment. Everybody sees things differently.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 10:38 am
as manipulated as I feel the show has been this season I am inclined to believe that whole thing was a set up. Yes, I am cynical this year. I remember after it happened there was talk that the judges ruined her chances by showing that clip but in reality all it did was make us talk about her.
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 2:40 pm
I'm going to miss Chelsie & Mark's performances, but I like who the final 4 are. Next week should be great. Here one of my favorite Mark and Chelsie performances.
Chelsie & Mark Contemporary June 11, 2008 There are some good channels to review here and here. I found the ballet performance from the week before last, it's still great. SYTYCD Top 8 Guest Pas De Deux July 24, 2008
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Stormie
Member
03-01-2007
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 3:15 pm
I had thought Katee was going to move forward in her career, not give up dance. I still don't know what Nigel's trip was, other than perhaps he thinks this show is a gateway for dancers, which it isn't. This show isn't the end-all-be-all for dancers, and if trying out twice was enough for Katee, there's nothing wrong with that. I didn't see what the judges point was with that question, and thought their reaction was odd.
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Curious1
Member
08-31-2002
| Saturday, August 02, 2008 - 11:19 pm
Isn't it true that "professional" dancers can't apply for this show? If so, perhaps Katie was thinking that putting off her career as a dancer, and not being able to sign with a professional company, wasn't her wisest decision if she didn't make it again this year. They did state that both her and her roommate took the entire year off and just trained after being rejected last season but told that they could always come back and try again this year. Just a thought as to why she may have honestly said that she probably wouldn't be back...
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 8:19 am
The nation will be tuning in Wednesday & Thursday to find out who's the favorite dancer. Who will it be? Robert? or Phillip? 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 11:24 am
KL, who are Robert/Phil???
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