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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 11:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Teach, I just now gave abby a whole (big) choc chip cookie right BEFORE I gave her lunch!!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I have tried to teach a balance diet to DD. If she eats a cookie before dinner, it doesn't mean she doesn't eat her dinner! She knows that she needs to eat fruit and vegetables and protein and dairy. She understands that you have to give the body good food to also be able to give it junk food. Personally, I think kids who are taught that dessert is not an indulgence or a reward, but part of their diet are less likely to develop bad eating habits. I sure hope so!

And I have to wonder about the forbidden fruit effect Kates "no chicken fingers, no junk food, no McDonalds" will have. I've seen it have very bad results.

Oxies_luv
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05-13-2005

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oxies_luv a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to remember, while on the couch didn't they mention that they had a small family party for their birthday and that the bakery trip was an additional thing that they planned? I don't think that that was their actual birthday celebration, but I hate to think that Jon & Kate would do that to their kids. Especially seeing how she goes all out for other holidays and special occasions. If someone still has this recorded, please watch for this and let me know. I think it was said in one of the first couch scenes.

It was on the episode that was shown on Memorial Day, that they all went out for ice cream and that was what they had for dinner. She and Jon felt that ice cream for dinner was a special treat they could do once in awhile.

I still enjoy this show and probably will watch until it cancelled. Yeah, both Jon and Kate say (or do) things that make me think "huh?" but I still enjoy it. I love watching those kids (especially Aaden ) As far as other people being or not being on the show, that's okay (even though I enjoy them too). I mean it is called "Jon & Kate, plus 8" not "Jon & Kate + 8 co-starring Jodi, Kevin, Carla, Beth, Nana Janet, Bennie and the Gang" Just my

Spitfire
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07-18-2002

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
I agree with both sides on this matter. It's really all a personal parenting choice. No right or wrong.

I believe she should have thought this through a bit more and while talking about the fun they would have making these cupcakes, also remind them that it was for dessert, after supper, at home. Not decide it on the fly after already telling them they would eat them after they were finished.

I would have given the cupcakes in that specific situation. To me the whole idea was to have fun making and eating. If she knew she would be that uncomfortable with the mess she should choose a different activity.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I know many families that don't eat fast food. I know many adults that don't eat it either.
I got tickled. My boss is a little OCD, but I didn't realized how much till I saw him separating his chips into three piles today (whole chips, halves and crumbs). I told him about Kate and this thread! LOL

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
LOL about your boss!

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I would have dressed them in clothes that I didn't care would get messy. What would Kate do if her kids were in daycare or when they start school? My goodness they can come home with all kinds of stains and messes!! They're children for heaven's sake. One year I put Em in a summer camp and the director said the first day do NOT dress the kids in anything good for camp. They were given t-shirts and we were told to not worry about getting them dirty. One day I picked up a child covered in mud from head to toe and a big smile on her face. I THINK my child was underneath all that mud. They'd had a tug of war over a mud pit and Em's team had lost. She had the best time in the world. It was funny to see what she would look like every day when I picked her up from camp. She had a blast every day at that camp!! It's one thing to be clean and I always stressed that with Em, but it's another to stifle a child's natural instinct to play because of fears of messiness.
Kate has complete control right now, but she's in for a big surprise when they are start school. She better learn to relax or she'll be a basket case. IMO..and I do like Kate.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I would have let them eat the cupcakes immediately as well but once it became dessert for dinner then they had to eat dinner.

I believe Oxies is right, it was NOT THEIR BIRTHDAY if I recall correctly. They had had a family bday previously and this was an little extra on another day.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Any sentence that can start with "I would..." means it is a personal opinion and even right as a parent to decide what is best for your kiddos. Kate doesn't do everything I would, but honestly, I haven't found another mom yet who does everything just like I do

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
=)

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Spot on. :-)

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
At the beginning of the show, they say the cupcake shop opened especially for them, since they normally aren't open on Sundays. So this had to be a well planned thing, and not just some last minute decision to stop off at the cupcake place on the way home.

I felt Kate put a damper on the whole outing for them all. I was sitting here nodding my head saying "yep yep" when Jon spoke up at her constant crabby mess monitoring and said something like "You are going to look back at yourself and cringe about this". (Paraphrase) Kate also scolded one of the children for wiping their hands on themself. They had on aprons for heaven's sakes. I guess they weren't allowed to soil the aprons either...

It's really hard to type something seriously when you're typing about cupcakes...LOL

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, July 08, 2008 - 8:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
I just watched a show on Discovery Health about a family having sextuplets. Unfortunately, two didn't make it before they were even born. But the mom was so very organized with the four. They ran a tight schedule. I guess you'd have to. She did work on the weekends in a hospital and the father would have the four all day. She said she'd get home and there would be food in their hair and as long as the house was standing and they were loved by daddy, then all was right. The babies were just beautiful!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I just watched the cupcake episode.

This is what I would call a heavily scripted episode. It sounded like they wanted a private family birthday party for the kids, no cameras. But the producers needed some kind of celebration! Last year they had the carnival. I'm sure the producers set up the whole thing with the bakery as it's not something Kate would do (messy, plus kids making food??!!). I suspect the producers knew they'd get good footage of Kate being all OCD because she's clearly out of her element. The timing was all wrong for Kate too -- wearing Sunday best clothes and prior to dinner. With that said, I still think Kate needs to lighten up a bit.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, July 09, 2008 - 10:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Brenda, I am in total agreement with your assessment!!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Jon and Kate talked about that the boys didn't get their cupcakes because they didn't eat enough healthy food. Kate (I think) told the boys they could have them the next day. Kate said to us/cameras that they don't have to clean their plates. Kate wants them to have something healthy in their stomachs before they eat cupcakes. Hannah made a good dent in her food, so she got to have her cupcake. Mady had Hannah's fork and told Hannah to plug her nose when she took the bite. (This was a funny scene! I liked seeing Mady being so nice and helpful and such a good big sister!) She then fed the forkful to Hannah (who didn't actually plug her nose, I don't think). Jon and Kate were on the interview couch and said that the boys didn't even mention the cupcakes the next day.

When they were in the kitchen before dinner, there were clearly six cupcakes in the bakery box (and lots of other bakery boxes, maybe individual cakes for each kid???) and two had fallen over. Kate said she hoped they wouldn't notice as she tried to fix the frosting the way it had been decorated by one of the little kids.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i was watching an old episode last night where they went to the organic farm and fed the chickens. She didn't stop the kids from doing that or running around. i will give her credit, she may gritch and groan about the stuff, but she doesn't stop them from doing things.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I'm not as compulsive as Kate, but if I had laid out clearly defined parameters for my daughter (not getting something until she had accomplished something else) I would have not let her have the cupcake either...birthday or no birthday. I'm not sure I would have been a strict as Kate about the rules but I'm a firm believer that you have to follow through on what you tell children.

And I only have one to deal with...I think with 8 you have to be even stricter about some things. My daughter would live on chips, McDonalds and Cici's Pizza if I didn't make her eat "real" meals from time to time.

Pinkij
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05-02-2008

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pinkij a private message Print Post    
The bakery had the twins decorate cakes while the lttle ones were doing the cupcakes. Even though Mady and Cara did do cupcakes took. and then they had also had the lttle ones decorate a cake too. so 3 cakes and 6 cupcakes.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
My beef is with how Kate handled the cupcake thing. The kids expected to eat cupcakes. I don't think their expectations were well managed. Before they even went there was footage of her talking one of the little girls:
mom - what are we doing today?
girl - making cupcakes!
mom - and what do we do after we make cupcakes?? We eat them!!

If Kate had said "we stick them in a box and make you eat your dinner before we eat them" I wouldn't have a problem with it.


I watched the organic episode last night as well and saw them cooking with onions and peppers and stuff. If her kids are not eating perhaps she needs to look at what she's trying to feed them. Some of the stuff she's dishing up looks quite horrible, honestly. Now I don't believe in being a short order cook for our kids, but I do believe that some people have certain things they just can't stand to eat. At our house it was meatloaf and mom finally learned that serving meatloaf only led to a battle that wasn't worth fighting. She stopped making it. to this day, I still will not eat it.

I had to laugh at how her brother in law was poking fun at all her rules about what they had to do to leave that dusty attic: take a hazmat shower, eye wash, etc.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
If Kate had said "we stick them in a box and make you eat your dinner before we eat them" I wouldn't have a problem with it.

EXACTLY!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 1:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
they were eating a stir fry with all sorts of veggies. these kids also eat sushi. i think she is doing a good job of exposing them to all sorts of foods. she wasn't making them eat of the food either. i was bad about assuming my kids wouldn't like something and then not serving it to them.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
i was bad about assuming my kids wouldn't like something and then not serving it to them.

That is so true Annie, I bet that is part of my problem with Ryan. I make sure to let Abby try everything! Even super spicy stuff that dh eats! And she likes so much of it.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen the cupcake one, but I was watching the one where they were building the attic room and it concerned me that Kate has such anxiety with small changes. She seemed to really be over wrought about the contractors being in the house and that seems a little extreme. I mean, I know remodeling is stressful, but they were in a whole other part of the house and she was still bothered by it. I wonder if her hormones are back to normal or if she ever had that checked out. It just seems like something is out of wack there.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, July 10, 2008 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
My DD eats sushi too, so I never assume she doesn't like something. And I always encourage her to try things and tell her we often have to eat things we don't love, things that are merely okay, because our body needs good food.

But I also try to respect that I may like some things that she doesn't, especially if we are trying something new. If she doesn't like what we are eating and has given a good try, I will allow her to eat something else, a yogurt or cheese or PB sand. I just can't be a hard-a@@ like Kate and say "you eat THIS or you don't eat at ALL!" My friend gave me the pbj idea. Her mother was very strict. If you didn't like dinner, didn't want to eat it, you could make yourself a pbj. I think that's a fair option. It doesn't happen often at our house. Usually only if I'm trying something new (and often I have ended up with a pbj too and the new food in the garbage LOL).

If Kate didn't have all these food and cleanliness hang ups, I'd hardly have a thing to pick on her about.