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Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Also, whether we realize it or not, our opinions of the way people look includes the way they behave. Sometimes you meet someone and at first you think they are very good looking, but after you get to know them you wonder why you thought that. The reverse is also true. Sometimes you meet someone and wonder why they don't do something to improve themselves and after a while you realize they look just fine the way they are.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Dogdoc, I am up around 4am daily, leave the house by 5:30.

Mama, ITA! There is a guy at my work that is average looking but he is the sweetest guy in the world so that makes him HOT HOT HOT!

of course if I was in my 20s that wouldnt make him hot, I only liked the bad boys LOL

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I have never heard of animal studies and symmetry. I think if a bird would look at a symmetrical bird he would see a balanced body, not a beautiful one. I actually thought the symmetrical test on the show was a joke. It should have been. lol

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Just because you never heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I first heard of symmetrical beauty years ago when I visited a museum in Balboa Park. There was a system there that measured your symmetry (against right and left sides). Since then I've seen studies where different species have been proven to have a preference for symmetrical opposites. I'm not going to go look up the references, but they do exist. You can choose to believe it or not, but it does exist.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Actually, if you ever decide to have plastic surgery, the surgeon will "measure your face." When I had my nose done a couple of years ago, the surgeon measured the symmetry on my face.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I've known about this beauty-symetry school of thought for quite a while now. I agree with those folks that say it's the little quirks that make people beautiful, rather than cookie-cutter pretty.

As for me... what little chin I have is visibly uneven (at least to me). If I was young and rich I'd have the same chin implant that Carol Burnett had years ago. Oh well.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Yep it has been around a long time, but I think that the people who normally do the tests are scientists, not plastic surgeons.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 3:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Well, in my opinion an excellent plastic surgeon would do the test before performing surgery. My plastic surgeon was double board-certified and had been practicing for over 30 years (and he was worth every penny I spent)!

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Costa, I was not doubting the tests. I just think an animal's concept of beauty would be functional.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I guess CJ and I stand alone on the unimportance of symmetry. I have CJ all to myself. Yea!

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodie75 a private message Print Post    
Dogdoc, I totally agree with you! I find "quirky" or unusual beauty to be much more fascinating then boring symmetrical beauty. Like I said earlier, when I was a teenager I thought symmetrical beauty was...well, beautiful. But as I matured, I started to appreciate far more different types of beauty and unusual differences from the common standard of beauty.

I definitely don't think symmetry defines a beautiful face. Maybe when I was younger and first exposed to fashion magazines, but not anymore. Now it's the whole package - the characteristics of someone's face, and their personality all are more important to me than the boring and common definition of beauty.

I said above that there has been in fact studies that showed that babies respond more...but I truly believe that with maturity comes a new appreciation for each other's differences.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Same with me. When I was younger without consciously thinking about it I found symmetrical was more beautiful but now I enjoy uniqueness.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I cant believe no one commented on the charity hoax. I was shocked CJ suggested and even went thru with the charity lies. I realize he stopped but I am disappointed in him. Kudos to our favorite tear girl for standing her ground.

Glad Ashley went.

Jodie75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodie75 a private message Print Post    
Hey Pamy, a bunch of us commented on the charity hoax! I said myself that it was just wrong. I couldn't believe that my former front-runner came up with such a bad (and WRONG!!) idea.

And yes, I'm glad Chelsea didn't go along with it. There's more to this girl than what we are seeing. On one hand she's acting shallow and bitchy, but then we see a softer, kinder side (usually when nobody's really around to witness it). It will be interesting to see how it turns out with her.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Pamy, there are quite a few posts regarding the hoax. It was disgusting. I had the same reaction to CJ as you did.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
aahhh I forgot to ck the archives! duh!

Jodie, I agree, I also was thinking they show her 'confessionals' more than others, so either she goes soon or is in finals

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, almost all of us commented on CJ's idea, but then gave him minor props for feeling bad and stopping the hoax midway thru.

Dogdoc, symmetry in the animal kingdom ensures survival and mating. Slightly different meanings but... I believe there was a study of fish (swordfish?) and they manipulated stripes on the male fish so that they were asymmetrical. The females always chose the symmetrical males. So while you may not consider a fish beautiful, apparently the female ones thought the symmetrical ones were more pleasing when it came to choosing a mate.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
reading back thru the thread I agree about the charity tasks this week. They didnt feel natural. It almost felt like they told CJ to give the money to the table for his team.
I wonder how much of this show is scripted or at least outlined. Seeing how BB edits and some of the VH1 shows have me cynical about many of these reality shows lately. Lately so many of them feel acted/scripted.

I also know the producers manupulate our feelings by what they choose to show us.

If I was Ashley I would have said something at the end, I was surprised she didnt say 'it was CJ's idea, he did it too' and 'I stayed and made sure the guy said he was ok'

I think CJ's is being edited as the winner, esp after the speech he gave

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I dunno. I really don't think Ashley totally "got" why she was eliminated. I don't think she really understood how badly she came across with all that (especially when she snatched the bracelet off that guy).

Puttergirl
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08-11-2000

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puttergirl a private message Print Post    
Pamy, maybe Ashley knew she carried it farther than CJ once she saw the tape. I thought she looked a little ashamed after that. They always make themselves look worse at the end when they argue with the judges. Better to go out with a little class.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
oh ITA. She earned a little respect from for how she went out, unlike the girl from last week.

Malaka
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07-05-2007

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Malaka a private message Print Post    
She earned a little respect from for how she went out, unlike the girl from last week.

I think she was embarrassed and shocked speechless. She barely said a word.

I like the concept of secretly testing them on their hidden beauty.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 3:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Ashley probably was also more embarrassed remembering all her confessionals. She was the one who bragged about all her expensive outfits constantly.

I'm wondering who they're going to shove on us as the true beauty now. Certainly not CJ, Chelsea or Joey.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What Malaka said... I got the shocked speechless vibe from her. I thought she had a pretty bewildered "what? me?" look on her face.

Aitch41
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01-09-2009

Friday, January 16, 2009 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aitch41 a private message Print Post    
I not sure about anybody else - but my mom would have beaned me for acting like these people. Do you think any of them are happy?