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Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
Love watching John and Kate plus 8 LOL poor John they showed him on an upcoming episode were they all had shirts with Numbers on them and his was 10 and he said he felt like people would make fun of him. The Duggar family kinda reminds me of some of the Amish and Mennonite families we have in our area! And let me tell you when I met some of the Amish kids that have left there familys they all say the same they left because it was so controlling. And when they leave there familys the whole family will no longer talk to them! I just hope the Dugger children at least get the chance to mingle with other kids more.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I had never heard of the Duggar's before this thread. So I went to the TLC site and watched all their clips. Then I ventured out further beyond the official site. It's a little scary the hate this family gets. BUT, there was one point I saw that made sense from anti "Duggar" articles. It said something to the effect that the only reason the Duggar's can happily have this many children is because most of the rest of our population doesn't do this. That made so much sense to me. In other words, having them as an oddity is fine, but if the rest of the nation followed, we would be in ruin.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
It does seem rather selfish when you look at it that way, Naja. Remember a few years back when we were all worried about over-population and they were encouraging families to only have two children. I believe in China, families are only allowed one child. This is why there are so many girl babies in the orphanages--couples want a male heir. Very sad.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
I just think it's unfair to the other children to have child after child after child after child just because. It's like the children never get to be babies, they are forced to grow up and don't get to be kids.

Frogichik
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06-11-2002

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Frogichik a private message Print Post    
It does seem rather selfish when you look at it that way, Naja. Remember a few years back when we were all worried about over-population and they were encouraging families to only have two children. I believe in China, families are only allowed one child. This is why there are so many girl babies in the orphanages--couples want a male heir. Very sad.

I feel the same way. I think it's socially irresponsible to have so many children. We live on a planet with limited resources and there has to be some limits. The only way to make the population decrease is to only have one child per couple. Two per couple if you want to keep the population the same.

Also as Escapee says there is NO WAY the parents can give individual attention to each child every day.

This family really is my nightmare! There is no way I could want or imagine having that many children.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Jeepers, if a parent wants to have 30 kids and they can provide for them and love them then what is the big deal? Who cares? From all I have read and watched of this family they appear to be very well adjusted.

The girls are being brought up the way the parents believe, like the rest of us were/are.

As for how they dress, again it is how they believe. IMO how they dress their kids is not my ideal, however those parents who allow their daughters to dress like Brittany and wear next to nothing on the beach is not my ideal either.

My family didn't have those set of "rules" but I do remember people complaining that it was not right that they dragged me and my sister to church on a Sunday and Wednesday evening when we had to go to school the next morning.

Also - I don't see why parents could not give individual attention to the kids, after all there is only 17 of them, that is much less then teacher/student ratio in our school systems today.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
And since they are homeschooled they are not even being a cost to the public school district in their area...and they seem to be bright, well-adjusted children.

What is wrong with having responsibility...heavy sigh...I just wish I could teach 1/10th of the responsibility these children have to my own daughter! I can't even get her to bring the dishes down from her bedroom even when she is being punished for not doing it...and what's up with throwing trash on the floor instead of the trash can? And why does my own mother laugh every time I complain to her about this kind of stuff?

Karen
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09-07-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Has anyone seen the movie Idiocracy? It plays on the theory that the lower-class society (lower income, lower education) seem to procreate more than the higher class, those with money and good education / careers. A lot of the younger generation are choosing to have babies later in life - after careers and credit is established, and a great number of people are opting not to have children at all. The movie is a really interesting look at the slow but certain decline in intelligence, as the rich keep getting richer and the poor keep having babies.


I'm not saying that the Duggar family is poor and/or uneducated. I've never actually seen them before, and I'd like to keep it that way. But it's interesting to see a family so large when we're in an age where birthrates are generally on a decline.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20134584/

I found this very interesting....insight into that duties the older children are assigned.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
They have a sign up list for one on one time with their parent. Huh.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Interesting Huh, Mocha. One girl is responsible for lunch, served at 12 and one responsible for dinner. What about sharing? I'm all for chores, but this is a little ridiculous, IMHO!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
It does seem a lil rigid but with so many kids I guess it has to be which seems unfair to the older kids to me. But that signing up for one on one time got me. I just sat here and said wow.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Different strokes for different folks. I think they are doing an amazing job.

These kids are extremely bright, all know how to play an instrument, they are responsible, well spoken children. Much better than the "brats" I have to deal with on a day to day basis - Mom is a soccer mom.. dad corporate dude, kids - spoiled rotten, eye rolling apples of the parents eyes. Some parents could learn a thing or two from them.

Anyway - more power to them.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I totally agree Mocha!

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
From the interview is sounds like the "sign up" is rarely used, but more for.. important talk time.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
My 2 don't have to sign up to talk to me or their dad. I also do not raise brats so I have nothing to learn from them.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
didnt say ya did, hope you didn't think that. :-)

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh I know lol. I was just putting it out there :-)

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I've watched years worth of shows about the Duggars. As far as playing instruments, I've never actually heard them play anything on their violins except for Mississippi Hotdog and a very basic Amazing Grace. They also had a sing-along in their Winnebago when they went to Disneyland, and they sang...Amazing Grace. If they know more than those, I'm wondering why they have NEVER played anything but those.

On that MSNBC video, it was nice not to see all of the daughters with cloned hair. I'm wondering if it was because they were in New York City or something. They always have that part way over on the side of their head and their hair all swooshed over one shoulder.

I love watching this family, but they are definitely "different".

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Hmmmm, I have no children so I am willing to average in my "none" with the Duggars to help alleviate the hate!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 4:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
What hate? Some people just disagree with parts of the Duggars child-rearing ideas. That's far from hate!

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
I see nothing referring to hate...one can disagree without hating.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 4:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I've never seen this show or this family, but I find the discussion interesting. The neighbor couple across the street both come from large families (10 children in his, 12 in hers) and from talks with them I know both absolutely loved growing up with a bunch of siblings. Neither one has ever said anything to leave the impression that they felt slighted in any way by having that many other kids in the family. I do know both of them spent far more time with their parents than me and my sis ever did with ours.

What got me posting though was the sign up sheet for time with the parents, lol. Back when the kids were born and for the first several years Darren and I worked totally different shifts and were rarely home at the same time. Even now it's hard to find both of us home at the same time where one of us at least isn't doing 12 other things. So standing policy in our house is that if one of the kids needs to talk to us about something important, or vice versa, we schedule an appointment. That's not to say if they just want to spend time with us or talk they can't anytime they want to. But if they have something important they want to talk to both of us about at the same time they'll let us know to set some time aside later on to talk. It also gives us the chance to make sure the other kidlet will be occupied with something else and to give us time to clear however long we think we'll need so they have their uninterrupted mom/dad time. They still know they can talk to us anytime they want to, but they also know when it's a good idea to ask if we can sit time aside so we can all talk later on.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Who is getting paid to be on this show??? 17 kids - minimum wage for Sag, I hope someone is looking out for them and mom and dad aren't in addition to getting free housekeeping aren't using the kids to pay the mortgage.

I think it is extremely selfish of a couple to have 17 kids. My mother in law was one of 13 kids but that was back in the 1930s where many kids didnt survive infancy, my husbands aunt was taken out of school at 12 to help raise the other kids. The older kids had to put their money into the house to support the family when they went out to work. They were different times and I find it unfortunate and sad that there are kids out there today who have to cook for 17 people and take on the responsibility of their parents' children. I believe in kids doing chores but I dont think that should include having to cook for an entire family or raising your parents kids because they had too many to handle.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, October 15, 2007 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I grew up with several families of thirteen to fifteen kids. And this was not in the '30's!

It is just in the last few decades that children have not been expected to be contributing members to the family welfare - I was an only child and I cooked on nights when my mom would be running late and washed dishes EVERY night and cut the grass EVERY week during growing season.

I ENVIED the kds from big families! There was a family of thirteen one block over from my house, and it was always like a party there! I have NEVER heard any of my friends from these families say they didn't like growing up with lots of sibs -

On "Kid Nation" the cooks are cooking three meals a day for (currently) 39 people! Kids can do a whole lot more than we currently expect of them - Self esteem comes from doing things that make you proud of yourself!