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Kathyb
Member
05-17-2006
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 8:58 am
Another family with septuplets and TWO sets of twins. On TLC tonight. Maybe become a reality series ala the Gosselins. http://app.com/article/20081117/NEWS01/81117004/1285/LOCAL09
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 5:21 pm
I can't wait to meet them tonight. I'm the youngest of six, but, these large families facinate me. Have some cousins w/ 11 kids. NO multiples.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 7:40 pm
Serete, I feel like you about gum! I found that blog awhile back but never posted it here. I had mixed feelings about it so I didn't want to be the one to share it. My Dad also told me the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I try not to ever believe ALL of it. Jodi and her sister's truth is She doesn't have a contract because of Kate. I'm sorry...but when you add money to the mix along with emotional situations, the issues tend to become confused....even when they say they don't NEED the money. Jodi's sister has been really harsh in a lot of the things she's said. I don't know how much of it has been removed by now, but just her tone made me angry. BTW, those children seem like normal, happy children. There is no doubt in my mind they love those kids and the kids know it!
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:51 pm
I love the new Hayes family from the show tonight. They seemed much more "normal" to me. No OCD here. The dad has a job, the house looks like 12 people live there. Let me disclaimer this. I am not saying that the Gossleins are not normal...just saying this family seems more real. Reality!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 9:58 pm
I think I know what ya mean. Not sure how or why, but they do seem more "typical" or "normal." Can't explain it... I also like how well the kids all get along. And it is so so so sweet that the oldest boy (Kyle or Kevin) and Rebecca have that bond. The dad is a sweet guy. Oh and their Ryan looks so much like my Ryan!! Especially when he was 4. It is freaky. When they showed a shot of his back (In the bathroom at the restaurant, it totally could have been my Ryan.) They also named their kids so many of my favorite names!!! Ryan, Megan (which is what Abby's name would have been if her birthmother did not ask us her to keep her name) and Keiran.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, November 17, 2008 - 10:37 pm
hey, Serate. Go to www.readingeagle.com. then search jon and kate. This is their local paper and what they had to read about themselves today. another link from another article. http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/reviews/view.bg?&articleid=1132786&format=&page=1&listingType=tvrev#articleFull
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:09 am
Well, it seems that whomever wrote those articles didn't get any warm fuzzies from tonight's vow renewal show but I did. I think of the elderly members of Jon's family who never thought they would ever be able to meet Kate and the children. I had and elderly aunt who died just a few days ago and she never was able to meet my daughter or husband. Neither did my father because he was in the advanced stages of Alzheimers when I got married. He died when my daughter was 2-1/2 and she helped plant a tree in our yard in his honor but she never saw him in person. This summer we took her for the first time to meet her great-grandmother and her great-uncle. That gift of instant love flowing from both sides is something none of us will ever forget. My older sister never met my daughter either. She had a stroke the year before my daughter was born and then she died of a blood infection just 4 months before we were due to take our daughter out to meet her. I could go on and on with listing all the people in my life whom I loved with all my heart but who didn't live long enough to finally see me get married and ultimately adopt our daughter from Korea but I think I've made that point by now. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I still don't care that the trip was free. I'll never care that the trip was free. Ever. Those lovely relatives were able to meet their Kate and the children and while the children may not be precious to everyone, just as my daughter may not be, they are to their Hawaiian relatives and to their parents. If my parents had had a renewal ceremony when I was 8 years old, I would have dropped dead right on the spot and yes, I would have known what it stood for, but they would go ages without even speaking to each other while using me as a go-between and mediator. That's not what tonight's ceremony said to me. I saw love. Snippets of Jon and Kate's first wedding reception were shown and everything looked quite traditional but not incorporating any of his culture. This time they were able to center everything around the Asian part of his heritage. One of the complaints in the article was about how when the 6 little ones get to be teenagers their peers will all be teasing them about being potty trained on TV. In the show with the twins, twins, and sextuplets, they showed boys peeing in the bushes and one of their 6 having diarrhea at the restaurant. I wonder if the author thinks that those kids will also be ridiculed when they are teenagers because their "potty habits" were aired on national television. Do I begrudge either family for getting free things or being paid to be on a television program? Absolutely not because all of those children are growing up with something I never had and never will -- parents who honestly love each other and who love each and every one of them.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:54 am
{{{Tess}}} I'm still recording tonight's show and definitely looking forward to it! Frankly kids today are showing it all on myspace and facebook and by the time these little ones are older I seriously doubt that it will be a huge liability to have been on tv.. so many are doing it these days. I cannot imagine anything negative about a recommittment ceremony, to be honest. And I'm sorry many people didn't get to meet Miss Sarah.. I know I certainly benefit from your sharing words about her world and pictures and still smile at her picture on my fridge, so she's touched many a soul, here.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 3:44 am
I honestly don't get why 1. people care that they get free stuff..how does it hurt you if they do? is money taken out of someone else's mouth? 2. why they say they don't deserve it do any of us truly 'deserve' the gifts we receive?
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 6:19 am
I LOVED the renewal ceremony episode! Everyone looked so nice and hey, wasn't it great to see Kate enjoying the experience and not worrying so much about organization? They all had a good time and made memories. Jon's family members seemed extremly happy to be a part of it. How many times did Kate say that so and so was "so cute"? I think she genuinely enjoyed meeting Jon's family. Those kidlets are just too cute and I enjoy watching that beautiful family. I agree with those of you above who see it for what it is, and I have no issue at all with whether they are paid a ton of money or receive free gifts. It's fun to watch Big Brother, Survivor, and all that, but this show is just pure enjoyment to me.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 8:00 am
How wonderfull is the Hayes family? I don't think I stopped smiling the whole hour. LOL I had to laugh at the little boy who keeps *finding* things (like when he *found* his mom's wallet in HER PURSE) because I had a dd who did the same thing but with opposite results. She used to wander around the house with a bag (old purse, plastic grocery, knapsacks, etc) and fill it with whatever she could find that seemed out of place to her, and then stuff the bags in her room. Every once in awhile we had to go dump the bags out and recover our items. LOL And that eldest son making the comment about the little girl with CP 'taking one for the team'? Heartwarming family.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 8:18 am
Loved the Hayes family, too. As a PT who spent her career working mainly with children with disabilities, I was very touched at the eldest child's bond with Rebecca. That boy is very special, the parents must be so proud of him!
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 11:24 am
I also loved the renewal episode. Even tho Kate was stressing it was for the kids, the past 5 years have to had taken a toll on their marriage. This ceremony was a way to let them reaffirm their feelings and commitment to each other. Loved loved loved the Hayes family. Hope they extend this show too. I don't care what Aunt Jodi's sister says. She's of course "protecting" her sister. She herself said her website got out of control. I do care what Aunt Jodi said in the video. I'd also like to hear Kate's version, but we won't and I'm ok with that. I'm not going to sit here and discuss just the good stuff. It's a reality show. I'll discuss both sides until there is a disclaimer from a board official stating that we must only discuss the good stuff. Frankly kids today are showing it all on myspace and facebook and by the time these little ones are older I seriously doubt that it will be a huge liability to have been on tv.. so many are doing it these days Exactly. I love the new Hayes family from the show tonight. They seemed much more "normal" to me. No OCD here. The dad has a job, the house looks like 12 people live there. They kept it clean but it didn't have to be perfect. I've noticed on J&K+8 they show a little more mess that is typical of when you have kids. The Hayes show seemed a little les scripted. But the first few J&K+8 shows seemed less scripted than they do now. I honestly don't get why 1. people care that they get free stuff..how does it hurt you if they do? is money taken out of someone else's mouth? 2. why they say they don't deserve it do any of us truly 'deserve' the gifts we receive? Good post. My only problem with their free stuff, and I think I posted this before, is it's kind of like Extreme Home Makeover. What they do is wonderful. But if they didn't concentrate on jut one family more families could be helped. That being said, if multiple families were concentrated on there would be no show. I think it is great these little kids get to go so many places. Get to see family they might not ever get to see. I laugh when people say it's not fair. Since when has life been fair. Life is not a Utopia. For every bad blog out there about the Gosselin's there is a good one. Here's one that is the opposite the Gosselin's Without Pity blog: http://gosselinsdonotneedourpity.blogspot.com/ The main problem I have/had with anything Kate has said is when she made the comment something to the effect that society should have to help pay for their burden since modern medicine promotes fertility treatments which in turn causes multiple births. [FWIW I read the actual article when it came out. Now it's in archive and I'd have to pay $3 to get it then still couldn't link to it.] So for me that's where her sense of entitlement first started and it has been hard not to see the sense of entitlement in these episodes. But I'm working on it. That being said, I still like the show.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:26 pm
MOds, can we rename this to be Jon & Kate +8, and make individual threads for the other shows. Seems we are getting to many families to have it all combined, Just a suggestion. I loved the show, loved that they got to have a wedding to include his side of the family, and I don't care if the trip was free. I would take a free trip if it was offered!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:34 pm
i know that i keep hearing Kate said they were entitled, but i have never actually seen it written anywhere as a direct quote from her.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:46 pm
I felt the Hayes parents were more laid back than Jon and Kate. I wonder if they always were even back when the sextuplets were tiny or two. J and K are different than the Hayes parents, there is room for difference in this world. I missed J and K's renewal of their vows.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 1:54 pm
yes, it would be interesting to see the Hayes when their first set of twins came, then the 2nd and then the sextuplets. i was never clear on everyone's ages.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:13 pm
Hayes kids: 12 and 10 yo twins. 4 yo sextuplets. Goss kids: 8 yo twins. 4 yo sextuplets.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:22 pm
I don't know why some people begrudge Jon and Kate making money or getting trips off their situation. For nothing else the sheer enjoyment of vegging out and watching the show after a long day at work...they deserve every dime they can get off the production...trust me tptb are make vastly more money from this little show. When the show ends Jon and Kate will have to hustle to figure out what to do next while the production is off on it's next big project. The kids will be fine because they are loved by their parents and siblings. Last night I kept screaming at the tv UNPACK find a home on the island and be close to family. I made a few trips to Hawaii and if there was anyway I could make a living there I would NEVER leave. They could do their show from anywhere. If Jon needed to get back into the world of IT and Kate back to nursing they could...especially since they have a seemingly nice family in the area.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:40 pm
I haven't watched the renewal ep yet, sort of saving it for candy later today. I liked the Hayes family too, though I thought they overdid some of the humor and while it IS more real world that they feed them fast food, that's becoming a problem health wise for kids so good for Kate that they don't get much of that. The relationship between the older twin boy and the little girl with CP was SO touching and I agree with the mom that while of course they didn't wish for any of them to have to live with CP, she gives such a gift to all of them in terms of what they learn and get back and it is sure likely that she'll never need for family even after the parents aren't around to take care of her. That was extremely sweet. I fell in love with that older brother 
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 2:52 pm
i know that i keep hearing Kate said they were entitled, but i have never actually seen it written anywhere as a direct quote from her. Entitled wasn't the word, she said society owed them. I've been trying to find a place where it was posted that isn't a blog, or at least one that doesn't have nasty comments. It was an article by the AP but it's old enough that the actual article has been archived or done away with, not sure what the AP does with old articles. I will post the whole article here, with the link to one of the numerous blogs it is posted on. Be aware if you go to the blog you will see alot of nasty comments, and alot of good comments. FWIW I actually read the article when it came out because I have followed the Gosselins since before their tv show. So while I can't post a link to the actual original website the article was on, I did actually read the article as a news article, not a post in a blog. Mother Of Sextuplets Faces Loss Of Medicaid-Funded Nurse (Society has a responsibility, says Mom) Associated Press ^ | May 8, 2005 Posted on Tuesday, May 10, 2005 3:27:46 PM by Wolfie Mother of sextuplets faces loss of Medicaid-funded nurse WYOMISSING - A Berks County woman with year-old sextuplets and 4-year-old twins will appeal for continued nursing help from Medicaid beyond a one-year cutoff. Kate Gosselin, whose husband has a 90-minute commute to a state job in Harrisburg, said she cannot safely manage eight small children. The sextuplets - only the second set born in Pennsylvania and among fewer than 30 sets born worldwide - arrived 8 weeks premature but are thriving as they near their first birthday Tuesday. "I will shout from the highest mountain that these are my children and I love them and I need help," Kate Gosselin said. While the Gosselins appreciate the volunteers who streamed through their home in the early months, the children's routines improved with the arrival of Angie Krall, a licensed practical nurse who spends 30 hours a week with the family. Medicaid provides the temporary nursing support for premature babies, Gosselin said. "She's fine-tuned and I trust her," Kate Gosselin said of the nurse, Angie Krall. "She's as good as a parent in this home." The family cannot afford to pay Krall on their own, she said. Jonathan Gosselin, an information technology specialist who now works in the Gov.'s Office, was unemployed for much of last year. Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births. She has talked by telephone with Bobbi McCaughey, the Carlisle, Iowa, woman who delivered the world's only set of surviving septuplets in November 1997. McCaughey named the loss of privacy and the oversight of volunteers as among her biggest difficulties, Kate Gosselin said. On the bright side, the Gosselin babies seem to have skirted the health problems that can plague premature babies and multiples. Each now weighs between 18 and 22 pounds. "I look at six healthy babies and I feel a lot better, because it could be a lot, lot worse," Jonathan Gosselin said. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1400462/posts I'm not saying she didn't deserve help, didn't need help. What I did not like was her saying this: Kate Gosselin said she feels society has a responsibility to help with the children, since modern medicine promotes the use of fertility drugs, which can lead to multiple births. To me - IMO - not fact just how I feel - no links to back it up because I am the one that is saying it - she is saying she is entitled to help because it's not just her fault she had multiple births. That it's society's fault too. I know I've said it before, and ya'll are probably getting tired of it but I still like the show.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 4:18 pm
Thanks Julie! Lill, i kept wanting them to stay too!! LOL Thanks for the article Serate.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, November 18, 2008 - 4:26 pm
I just watched the wedding....wonderful! Loved that they incorporated Izzy's music. He always gets to me.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 12:39 pm
Hmmmm reading what Serate said....does that mean society should have paid for me to HAVE fertility treatments since I couldn't have kids myself? I DO have problems with people feeling entitled.....but she may have been feeling really overwhelmed when she hinted at that too. I don't begrudge them the trips and stuff....I just hope they are saving some money for when this all goes south. We are fickle. We lose interest when we watch something too much!!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, November 26, 2008 - 2:45 pm
A lot of things can be said about Jon and Kate but stupid isn't one of them. No one should be concerned about their finances. They take great care in their kids and the kids financial future has been taken care of...they probably already have college funds set up. Both their fields of IT and nursing are solid careers, they may need to take a few refresher courses but they will find "real" jobs when and if they need them. Plus speaking engagements and books bring in money. The society statement doesn't bother me. At that point of the game she was truly over burdened. I'm so glad they made it through the tough times in the beginning and are now have a great little life. All the traveling these kids get to do and all the specialness surrounding them is a beautiful thing. The kids are fortunate to have Jon and Kate and vice versa.
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