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Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I didn't mind Marquis leaving although I thought his solo was far superior than the two other guys. However I thought he has been a weak partner. I realize this is an individual competition but they are competing as partners at this point.

Did anybody else catch when Kourtni went offstage and threw her arms around one of the other guys (not her partner and I think it was Joshua) and it looked like he was leaning in for a kiss and they cut the camera away quickly? Wonder if a little backstage romance is developing? Hope she doesn't cut her lips on his braces...LOL!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I just finished watching the performance show, and I'm not surprised that Susie and Marquis are gonna be gonners when I watch the elim show. It looked like they knew they did a bad job when they walked up to Cat, after their performance. And I agreed with the judges... I expected more heat from Susie. Her hip action was horrible, her lines weren't good, she didn't arch her back, and there was no HOT in that salsa! So Miami Heat or no, she left me cold (I wasn't that much of a fan of hers anyway but was open to be surprised).

I am totally on the Twitch/Kerrington Fan Train. Those two are really a phenom, separately and together. While I agreed that their dance wasn't a classic Viennese Waltz, it was a beautifully choreographed and performed number.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
To me Susie's solo looked too much like a "Miami Heat" type of dance...it reminded me of the girl that they dissed so much who looked like she did a pageant dance...drill team, pageant...I'm mixing metaphors here a bit, but it didn't look original or outstanding to me.

What the heck is organic by the way? That is a term that Mia used the other night that I've heard used before and I always think of compost every time I hear it...LOL!

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Susie's solo is what you see in a Miami club lol

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I'm trying to figure out how Susie even got this far lol. That solo was horrible.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Cat is a lovely Mother hen to the dancers.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Mia = Organic = Weird

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't know what was up with Mia saying she wanted to see more "organic" movement. That wasn't HER dance that was being danced and I thought they did a lovely job.

I didn't get the Susie love during auditions and Las Vegas week either. And while she had some beautiful lines last week, this week was a total let down. And her solo was totally street. Even if she hadn't gone this week, she'd be gone before they named the top 10.

ETA: I totally agreed with Marquis leaving, too. While his tricks are phenomenal, this isn't "so you can do gymnastics." It's dance, and a routine lacking in dance is gonna be grounds for dismissal. While the kids have to impress America to stay out of the bottom, the judges do have the final word. I felt Marquis danced for himself and not to keep himself there.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
If anyone discovers the definition of Mia's "organic purity," comment could you please post what it means?

I never understood why Susie was there, IMO her audition of salsa was not very good. It wasn't the great ballroom salsa we usually see, it seemed untrained and I kept thinking her legs were sloppy in her audition, but now that they've said "street salsa," I understand that must be what she was doing. I didnt know there was a term, but that definitely must be Susie.

I somewhat think Nigel dismissed Marquis because he wasn't a very masculine guy. Nigel likes his male dancers to be masculine and I'm thinking Nigel didn't think Marquis fit that description.

DOVEZ -- Yes, I too believe they deliberately pick some weaker dancers for the finals. I also think America's Next Top Model does this same thing, I refer to them as fillers; they're easy eliminators.

I'd like to see Will and Courtney partner each other. I think they'd dance very well together.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Roxip, I too saw when Kourtni exited the stage and fell into Joshua's arms and she threw her arms around him. I thought wow they must have become great friends, LOL. I didn't interpret Joshua to be leaning in to kiss her, but I did notice how quickly the camera withdrew from them and wondered how and when they became so close in such a short amount of time.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Organic movement has more to do with letting the body move, rather than forcing it into positions. You don't think about body position, you just let it go there, and it looks quite natural.

WRT Susie, I could get into the street salsa if she'd actually looked like she was dancing a salsa. Lack of hips and body position just blew it.

Dunno how I missed Kourtni falling into Joshua's arms. Then again, I tend to keep my trigger happy finger on the FF button when I replay 99.9% of all reality TV shows! :-)

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Thanks Costa for explaining it! I was so lost when Mia said that, now I totally get it.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
I don't think Marquis' dance was simply tricks at all, I think he is a very strong dancer and showed a lot of the good qualities he has in that short time, compared to that short time where Chris didn't show his best, who I think could have done better. From the individual dances, of the two, I think Marquis was the better dancer.

To me Marquis was the stronger dancer with Susie, but his abilities didn't come through as much. The Sulsa was supposed to be Susie's strength and from what the choreographer said, she wasn't up to par. That seemed to be the focus, not much about Marquis. I think if Susie takes some dance classes, improves on different dance styles, she could try again, but I hope Marquis heads straight for Broadway and begins his career in theater.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Susie's 'dance for your life' reminded me too much of an NBA cheerleaders dance at halftime or during a timeout. She might need to get away from the Miami Heat to really grow.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
I read an interview with Susie today, she said she really wanted to do Flamenco as her dance for life solo, but her song didn't clear so she had to go with something else. She said she had 3 solos prepared and since she couldn't do Flamenco, she went with her Latin routine. She said her routine wasn't improvised but was planned.

She claims her dance background is: "My dance background, I started with flamenco when I was around the age of five or six, and then I started pursuing the ballet, jazz, and Latin dancing. I later then graduated from the World School of Dance, where I started getting more familiarized with modern, Caribbean, and ballet also. I trained there with the best teachers...I trained a lot in the world, and then I would always take classes in lyrical. I'm not just a Latin dancer or salsa dancer, I've trained in ballet for many years since I was about 9-years-old, as well as jazz, modern, and hip-hop as well. I've danced with the Heat for six years now, and that's where it all got started."

If she's really trained in all those genres, I honestly couldn't see it in her dancing and I'm not basing that on just this week. I couldn't tell during her audition either. Oh well, best of luck to her.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But I could tell she had some training during her ballroom dance of last week. That was the ONLY time, though.

Shel
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07-27-2005

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
Ahnicka - Maybe Susie graduated from the World School of Dance Online Edition...

Neko
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08-03-2001

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
LOL
I still can't believe she' cried so badly when one of the choreographers said she's "street salsa."

I didn't see ANYTHING close to "real" salsa in her.

I kinda get this feeling that Susie's, not full of herself, but kind of "mislead" when it comes to what kind of dancer she is, and how good she is.
I think she think she's all thses things and a bag of chips, when really, she's a Miami Heat Dancer.

She was good mind you, better than I am LOL
But not SYTYCD good.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
LOL, good one Shel!

Neko, I kind of thought the same thing.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
There's nothing wrong with being a Miami Heat Dancer.
the thing with Susie is because she's latin I think latin families just assume they are 'good' salsa dancers. The routine given to her was way to diffcult enough. If this was so you think you can dance in a club she would of won lol

Neko
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08-03-2001

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
I never said there was anything wrong with being a Miami Heat Dancer.

My point was only that a Miami Heat Dancer does not equal salsa dancer.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Angelic, I think that's the point. Susie wasn't a trained salsa dancer (although she claimed to be a salsa dancer). So the routine was too difficult for her because of that. The choreographers know what they are supposed to be able to do, and she couldn't do it. And she knew it, from the looks of her face as she walked over to Cat after the performance. At any rate, I'm not sorry to see her leave as I thought she was definitely one of the weaker female dancers. :-)

Nessietessie
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02-03-2007

Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nessietessie a private message Print Post    
I don't understand that Susie is a Miami Heat dancer. I thought in the try outs she said she is a teacher?

Kellirippa
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07-10-2002

Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 12:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellirippa a private message Print Post    
being a "trained" dancer doesn't really mean that much... training only gives you the tools, if you haven't the talent or natural ability, all the training in the world won't necessarily produce results..

Anyone can be "trained" in dance, all that requires is registering for classes and paying your tuition fees.

And, that special guest Flaminco dancer... YUMM..EEEEEE...

Roteach
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06-01-2003

Sunday, June 22, 2008 - 2:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roteach a private message Print Post    
Nessitessie, from what I understand, NBA dancers as well as NFL cheerleaders also have "day" jobs so that is probably why Susie said that she was a teacher.