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Neko
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    

quote:

Mia doesn't think she's a mean judge.




LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.....


Yes Pamy, we need a new plan. Maybe just get rid of Will anyway?? We could do it in "The Name of Jessica" vs. actually for her now. LOL

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Why does it seem that everyone is against Will?

What am I missing?

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, Grooch, a lot of people seem to be resentful that the judges are "forcing" Will down our throats. The way they gush over him makes a lot of people feel like they've already declared him a winner. Hey, isn't that supposed to be our job? I like Will, just wish they'd lighten up on the praise a little bit. They're hurting his chances.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Yeah, it is unfortunate, cuz he's a wonderful dancer and I hope his chances aren't screwed up by people voting out of vengeance and not for the performances.
Actually, though, I know he'll be fine. He's gotten enough exposure and Debbie Allen will make sure that he's taken care of.

Imbewitched
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03-08-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Imbewitched a private message Print Post    
I read this story at Buddytv.com:http://www.buddytv.com/articles/so-you-think-you-can-dance/for-gina-5-21165.aspx

TV Guide broke the news this morning that Jessica King has left So You Think You Can Dance. “I would like to say how sorry I am that Jessica cannot continue dancing in the competition at the advice of her doctor," executive producer/judge Nigel Lythgoe said in a statement. "Her full recovery is paramount and will only come with rest.” King is being replaced by Comfort Fedoke, who was eliminated on last week’s episode along with partner, Thayne Jasperson. “We are fortunate that Comfort has agreed to rejoin the competition and know that under the circumstances she has Jessica's full support,” Lythgoe said.

U.S. laws prevented Lythgoe was prohibited from elaborating on the nature of Jessica’s injury though it’s unclear why. However, she will appear on this week’s episode and will explain what happened to the audience, and America. He gave no further details but did let it slip that one of the new couples this week would be Courtney Galiano and Joshua Allen.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I agree that I'm feeling Will is being "forced" on us a bit. While he is an excellent dancer, that's not what this show is all about. The fawning of the judges aren't helping his public perception, and because of that I think the public backlash is gonna cost him. Not that I care all that much, because I don't see him winning anyways. Nigel keeps reminding us it's America's favorite dancer, not the best or most technical dancer. But his constant blathering on and on of Will (and the put downs towards Jessica) are gonna ensure Will isn't America's favorite).

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Thanks Neko and thanks for the list Kooklie. I'm glad they are changing things up as well. Will and Katee seem like a good pair, but I don't think Comfort will do so well with Twitch. I can imagine he may reel it in so they can match in their performance. But, maybe she'll surprise me, I like her, so I hope she does well.

Mia's a great choreographer, but a lousy judge. I expect the judges to use their expertise to help and guide the new dancers, not to tear them down. I don't mean they should tell them they are all great, but be real, not mean. I liked Adam though, I hope he is there on Wed.

When a pair dances they match each other's strengths and weaknesses (I'm guessing), so when the judges kept bigging up Will and tearing down Jessica, it made me wonder if they just didn't like Debbie Allen and wanted to tarnish her students chances. I don't know, I do know it was a shame the judges decided to single him out and rip apart his partner. I don't think they are fair to Will, bc he is good and should be given a real chance, not a tainted one.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Thanks, guys, for the explanation. I was really confused there.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    

quote:

...when the judges kept bigging up Will and tearing down Jessica, it made me wonder if they just didn't like Debbie Allen and wanted to tarnish her students chances.




I think it's the other way around. Since Debbie is "one of their own," that makes Will "one of their own" too.

In all honesty, I think Will's good, but I don't believe he's deserved as much praise as he's gotten.
I find with him, they're also very biased, and don't give him any constructive critisism, but instead fawn all over him and his performances.

He's not going to become a better dancer if they continue to do that.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Jessica won't be touring

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
They did the same thing with Danny last year with the overkill praise, the difference this year is that Will has the personality and warmth that Danny didn't show in his performances. I have always rooted for the underdogs, so Joshua and Twitch and Gev are my fav guys. I can understand where people perceive that Will already has the golden ticket since he is affiliated with Debbie Allen.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
As I continually argue with the people here at work, we are not selecting the 'best' dancer, but the 'favorite' dancer. To me, that always translates into the dancer that entertains the audience the most. Even Nigel says that, for the last 2 years, the best dancer in the competition has not won. The best overall performer, or entertainer if you will, has won (Benji, Sabra).

Will already has an extensive resume in the dance field. So, whether or not he wins, Will will do just fine in his chosen field. For me, he just does not entertain me as much as some of the other dancers. Right now, I have a few favorites, none of which, are traditionally trained in dance.

Stormie
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03-01-2007

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stormie a private message Print Post    
Here's a clip of Jessica's solo and some of her performances with Will.

SYTYCD4 Jessica King - Top 12 solo July 10, 2008

SYTYCD4 Jessica and Will - Hip Hop June 20, 2008

SYTYCD4 Jessica and Will - Jive July 2, 2008

SYTYCD4 Jessica and Will - Lyrical Jazz July 2, 2008

SYTYCD4 Jessica and Will - Contemporary July 10, 2008





Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I think it stinks that Jessica is off the tour, too. I really wonder what kind of injury she has that will take that long to heal ...

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
Emotional..Nigel made it very clear he wanted her gone and Comfort there.

Shel
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07-27-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
A torn knee ligament perhaps?

We'll find out tomorrow.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I'm not voting out of vengence I personally don't find him entertaining as the rest of the boys. I don't like how the judges are trying to force me to feel differently.

Debbie Allen will make sure he has a great career. Did the other boys have such a star training them?

Impressive to me is Josh and Gev who are hiphoppers but have grown so much in this comp. Will is same dancer as when he started. Yeah great technique but yawn. Give me a fun Twitch routine or a heartwrenching Josh routine.

Most ppl that watch this show aren't looking for the best technical dancer, they are voting for their fav. I think it pissed the judges off from the start that their 'pet' was in the bottom.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
KL, where did you hear Jess wont be part of the tour either?

I am wondering if her injury isnt really the type we are thinking and wonder if it's mental. I cant imagine how that poor girl felt week after week getting mentally beaten up after wking so hard. I wish her the best and hope she has a bright future, she deserves it. It's not everyone that could stand there and take what they said and still smile. I would have been crying or pissed, of course I am menopausal and she isn't.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I read that she needed a 5 week recovery for broken ribs.

So, if she was paired with Twitch, I wonder if something happened there or during last week's show.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Here's an update of the partnering this week -

Courtney/Joshua: Rhumba by Jean-Marc Generaux | Hip-Hop by Dave Scott

Chelsie/Gev: Jive by Jean-Marc Generaux | Contemporary by Sonja Tayeh

Kherington/Mark: Country Two-Step by Ronnie DeBenedetta & Brandi Tobias | Jazz by Tyce Diorio

Comfort/Twitch: Waltz by Hunter Johnson | Hip-Hop by Dave Scott

Katee/Will: Broadway by Tyce Diorio | Pas de Deux by Desmond Richardson & Dwight Rhoden

I kind of want to see Mark and Kherington's 2 step. Mark really gets into character, so it might be better than I think it will be. At least, they have a Tyce Diorio as their other dance.

Shel
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07-27-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
I read in one of the comments on a youtube posting that Jessica had pneumonia and broken ribs... Could be possible, but it's just some random person posting a comment on a video site. I doubt she actually has pneumonia. The producers, or at a minimum Will and the choreographers, would have known that and she has supposedly been suffering in silence for a while.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Top 10 Finalists

Pre-Comfort Group Photo

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I read this at TWOP

so apparently jessica has had what she thought was a cramp in her side for about 3 weeks and it finally got so bad they took her to a doctor adn turns out she broke 2 ribs and fractured another one so she cant dance for 4 weeks.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
and if that's true then no wonder she wasn't as good as Will, doing 6 different dances in last 3 weeks with 2 broken ribs?!

Shel, that story mirrors the one you read on youtube so maybe it's not so far off base.

ok this was from someone that attended taping

I will put in spoiler
Spoiler
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"Before I start, I want to explain the Jessica situation. I wasn't home at all before the taping started, so I didn't hear the rumor. I knew something was up when they introduced the dancers starting with the guys (Gev). I then noticed that Jess was the one not there. After the intros, Cat brought Jessica out to explain. She said that the pain she had in her side was 3 broken ribs and the dr told her she couldn't dance for like 4 weeks if she wanted to dance on tour. So they brought Comfort in to replace her. Apparantly, Comfort & Twitch had only 1 day (or the equivalent-a shorter time w/ choreographers) to learn the dances, as I learned from Twitch's friend after the taping."

On the bright side appears she still may be part of the tour.


Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
wow, she's been doing all that rehearsing and dancing with broken ribs? she's got a heckuva pain threshold. I hope she recovers soon ...