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Kc103
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07-13-2004

Monday, June 16, 2008 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
Thought I would start a thread for this show because new episodes are starting tonight again on A&E, 8:00 p.m. CST.

Marej
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09-20-2002

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marej a private message Print Post    
I've seen almost all of the episodes of this series, but this guy was in his own smarmy world. Blech. I want to say what I really thought, but I like it here.

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
LOL! I watched this episode. This was one of the few people that I ultimately did not feel sorry for.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I've seen all of them also and I'm glad last night started a new season. I didn't like the guy last night but I'm glad he got clean.

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
Do they pay these people, or at least promise to pay them, in order to have permission to film them?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
They pay for them to go to detox (if needed) and rehab. They pay for the facilities where the intervention is held, they pay for the airfare to fly the interventionee to the facility. I'm pretty sure there isn't much else in the way of compensation (if there is, it'd be fairly minor).

What I'm getting tired of is all the people with addictions who had something happen in their childhood. Chad last night... um, yeah, my folks split up when I was his age. I ended up just fine, thank you very much. Chad last night didn't bother me all that much. I didn't like the way he treated the girl he was smoking with, but I think a lot of that was for the camera.

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
I agree. Chad did sort of "play to the crowd". Like he showed when he was panhandling, he can still be charming when he wants to be. I hate to say this, (well, almost hate...) but I think he was one of those that relied on his looks. He wasn't older, out of shape, and still looked like he could "clean up well". His story would have been much different if he had been initially unattractive.
I just wonder how they initally got him to allow himself to be filmed. Before they did the intervention, he just thought they were doing some sort of documentary. I wonder if they gave him money, or promised him money, to cooperate.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Darrel, all of the interventionees think they are doing a documentary on addiction. I don't know if they are "promised" money when they agree to be filmed (like "we'll pay you $1000 at your final interview") or not. These folks get "nominated" by family/friends and the family/friends are strictly told to NOT tell the addicts about the intervention. As to how they get the addicts to agree? I dunno. I suspect, and have seen, that most of them recognize they have a problem and don't have an issue talking about it, and most seem to want to be helped (although many fight it during the actual intervention).

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Costa.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I'm sure that they pay the addicts money to do the "documentary". It's probably a big incentive to provide them money (for vice of choice) so they'll do the show. I don't think even half of them do the show because they think it will help them with their addiction. I think they do the show to get paid.

I actually thought this was a great episode. Chad was definitely unlikable, but you know, most of the time with addicts I think it's the addiction talking when they do cruel things. It's not to excuse them, by any means. But I think you could see that Chad was a whole different person a few months later into rehab.

Everybody handles life stresses differently. My parents were also divorced, and my stepparents were not nice to me. My mother was emotionally abusive and shut my brother and me out, and always chose men over us. From the start, my father had the majority of custody - I saw my mother three weekends a month. But at my father's house, it was not much better, because my stepmother despised me.

How did I turn out? I struggled with an eating disorder for a long time. I had a people-pleasing personality, and food (or lack of) was my vice of choice. My brother messed around with drugs and alcohol. Both personality and environment are factors. That is to say, someone else in my position may not have developed an eating disorder and come out fine. Who knows?

Dannysgirl
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08-09-2007

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dannysgirl a private message Print Post    
Did anyone watch last nights episode with Dan? I missed the first 10 minutes - what happened in his childhood? Also, did he & Sarah lose a child?

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
Dannysgirl,Yes they lost A baby boy when he was 10 days old to A blood infection.I guess he had an older brother who was convicted of rape and murder and sentenced to death,and his parents spent all there time trying to fight it and neglected the other kids.

Dannysgirl
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08-09-2007

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dannysgirl a private message Print Post    
Mic--thanks! I hate when I spend a whole show trying to figure out what I missed.

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 11:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laura11103 a private message Print Post    
I felt so bad for Dan's wife and couldn't blame her for never wanting to have sex with him. I usually find the addict likeable underneath and end up very emotional at the end - this guy I didn't feel much for and was terrified for his wife, couldn't believe it when he was walking off with the baby...

But they say he's clean now so good for him and his family.

Dannysgirl
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08-09-2007

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dannysgirl a private message Print Post    
Laura--I too felt for his wife, mostly because it was like watching what my marriage had been like. The parts when he was really drunk and telling her to shut up, and saying things to Ava about her mom, this episode hit VERY close to home.

I was lucky enough to escape although I worry that I waited too long in regards to my son. He was 6 - somehow he only remembers good things about his dad; he was very, very emotionally abusive.

Danny, my current boyfriend (hence, my username ) does not drink at all.

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Laura11103 a private message Print Post    
Good for you Dannysgirl (like the username)... it's never to late to get out.

I actually hope Dan's wife left him, I mean it's great he got clean but it's hard to 100% believe he'll stay that way and also hard to believe she can ever really trust/love him again. She seemed like such a nice woman and very pretty too.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I may be the only one, but I really felt for Dan. He really didn't want to be a drunk, he just didn't know how to stop. He really struggled with it and wanted to be better for his wife and child. I was so happy he got clean and I hope they have a wonderful life together. After putting up with Dan when he was drinking why on earth would she leave him once he got clean? She loves him and he's her best friend.

Dannysgirl
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08-09-2007

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dannysgirl a private message Print Post    
Twinkie--I can answer your question "why on earth would she leave him once he got clean?"

Because, sometimes, no matter what he does (getting clean, being wonderful, etc.) once all the damage is done and the love is gone nothing can bring it back. When you are beaten down (either verbally or physically) so many times and you finally get the courage to save yourself and your children it's hard to look at that person without thinking of the bad times.

I remember when my brother went to rehab (years before I got married) and he came out clean and sober and was great to be around; I couldn't understand why my sister-in-law still wanted to divorce him and I was very bitter towards her.

Fast forward years later, after I left my husband, I called my ex-sister-in-law and apologized profusely for my rude behavior; you really don't know what it's like until you go through it.

I'm happy to say that my ex-husband and I get along pretty well and he seems to be taking care of himself. I don't think he drinks much at all anymore, which is good for him and our son.

Sorry for rambling - thanks for listening!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Twinkie's right. I think in Dan's case, his wife really wanted to be with him. She was remembering the good times, the reasons why she fell in love with him. She really wanted it to work, and in that case, yeah, why would she leave him after he became sober. She WANTED to be with him but she WANTED (and needed) him to be sober.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Exactly, Costa! The love wasn't gone from their marriage. She still loved him, she just wanted him sober.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with Dannysgirl. You can love a person deeply. But if they start abusing something like alcohol or whatever and turn your life upside down, no matter how much you love them, you may be scared (not to mention scarred) forever...

Even if the love is there, a person could be so beat up and so tired of the pain that they do not want to take the risk. Even if you love them, you may not want to live a life of wondering when the bad stuff will reappear.

Alcoholism (or any addiction) is not like cancer where you can get screened or tested and they tell you you are in remission. Cuz in an addict's life remission can end in a second with no warning...

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
But in her case, she loved him enough to take that chance. Who are we to say she was wrong to do that? How do you know he will fail? It was her call to make and she made it.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Exactly Twinkie!!! There was more love there, and more desire to make things work, than anything else. She still trusted him, and THAT is also why she wanted to take that chance. She hadn't gotten to the point of no return.

Dannysgirl
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08-09-2007

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 5:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dannysgirl a private message Print Post    
Twinkie - I hope you didn't misunderstand my earlier post - I didn't say that she was wrong to take a chance or that Dan would fail; I simply answered your question as to why she might leave him once he got clean.

I agree with Julieboo; it really does become a trust issue and it's like you're waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, July 14, 2008 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
This sure is a hard program to watch, isn't it? But so educational.