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Trini
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07-06-2004

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
I still have the same choice for Mole since the beginning of the show.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
aThanks for covering - I wasnt near a tv or a computer!!

I thought there was an Alex spoiler, so I was wondering why he was still there (other sites had him going 2 or 3 people ago!!) That was the last known spoiler!!

PLEASE SAVE THE MOLE!!

I just cant see Paul as the mole - too emotional... nor Mark... too emotional... so that leaves Clay, Craig and Nicole... I think Clay was too honest in his trying to ferret information and for writing in his journal, if he was the mole I'm not sure he would have 'gone off' on Paul like that...

so that leaves Craig and Nicole - and on the quizes I heard you do need to focus on one or two people ....

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Clay, my original mole is still there??? But then I gave up on him and picked Alex!! When Alex tried hard to look for the bottles and hit the target I knew that he wasn't him (but didn't expext to be executed).

Inspite of their shocked look after Alex's execution, I think they ALL know who the mole is and are trying their best to throw people off, especially Nicole, she's trying so hard to be the mole that they won't believe her anymore.

Clay was also too desperate to find the bottles and I was giving up on him again but he was too relaxed at execution time (HE KNOWS).

Mark was trying hard to finish the challenge and yet he had the perfect excuse to give it up, "exhaustion", (HE KNOWS).

Craig wasn't trying very hard for anything, he did the jumping maybe for the thrill that he won't experience again if left to his choice and of course didn't even try to hit the target...(HE KNOWS BEST).

Nicole either KNOWS and is just not making too many mistakes for me to be sure she's the mole...

Paul could be the Mole but I find it hard to believe that the Show producers would have selected him for the Mole considering his antagonism... He said he would have changed his game when down to 5 players... HE KNOWS...

The only one who doesn't know it's me!!!

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 3:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Last night Clay said "everyone's the mole"...my thoughts exactly! This show drives me crazy but I love it! I overthink everything. I was a bit nervous during the show last night. I liked the recap to date show also.

I don't want Nicole to be the mole. I don't like her. If the guys feel the same way, maybe they don't think she is the mole because they don't want her to be the mole.

I will be more surprised if Nicole, Paul, and then Mark is the mole. I will be least surprised if it is clay or craig. Before last night, I would have had Alex in the group with clay and craig.

If Mark is the mole, he is a good actor. From being so upset about his journal and being teary eyed or practically that in the beginning talking about his wife and wanting to win this so she could stay home with their kids, I never thought he was the mole. I have different thoughts about that now. Maybe he was acting or maybe he is the mole and is doing this so his wife can stay home and the misty eyed stuff was real because he will miss his family a lot. Although the editing of him alone in the prison type lock up yard when he was the last one left really made it look like he was contemplating taking that exemption. If he is the mole, he showed good acting in that scene. Being upset about his journal could have been acting and disappearing is very moleish, he could have had a good long pow wow with production during that disappearance. I don't think he would have continued running on the treadmill last night, however, if he was the mole.

My husband mentioned something about Paul and the way he thinks (survival mentality, you can hear it in his words) shows that he can't be the mole. I agree.

Craig is my prime suspect and then Clay.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think Clay having a go at Paul isn't inconsistent with Clay being the mole, because the producers might have suggested he answer Paul back to create a bit of drama. That also might account for why it seemed so clumsy and out of character - although we are seeing Clay act like that more often, though more mildly, recently.

Also I thought Paul's sour lemon might have resulted from a conversation with the producers telling him to tone it down, but that might have happened whether or not he was the mole. And apart from the car journey he has toned it down a bit.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
If the remaining contestants know who the mole is, it follows that accuracy and timing on the quiz play an important role in the eliminations coming up.

Last night, Mark dropped completely from my list as he ran on the treadmill and answered most of the questions. I never thought Paul was the Mole, but the survival mentality angle mentioned above does fit him. I just don't think Nicole is the Mole, no real reason other than she is too blatant about when she is suspicious.

That leaves Craig and Clay, where I have a toss up only because Craig was on the sled run and spoke after they should have stopped talking. I really think it is Clay, only because I don't think Craig was faking when he was having health issues. If he was, he was very convincing.

So, that leaves me with Clay.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
So much to read, love it!

Just want to say, one way to help save the show is to watch it on your TV set that has the box(HD, DVR, whatever) since that's the most direct way they could count ratings these days. They still send cards for you to fill and make phone calls during the show tp tally viewership, but those boxes are the most reliable tools they have these days.
I'm talking about it because I only pay for one box for the Tv in the Living room. The other tvs are cable connected but not box-connected. I hope I make sense ...
But Let's Save the Mole!!

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
I have it on 2 TV's. One is recording and on and the other one is on in the kitchen.

Clay is my pick.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
I'm in the dark ages. My tv was bought in 1982 and still works! No cable, just network.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Kook, I have one of those in the garage. I had it since college days! I'd tease DD about it going to college with her, hehe..

When I moved here from the city, the only way I could keep my fingers on things was to get the cable news including Chinese News Stations. Now we are Time Warnered up all the way with RR for PC & phone service as well! It's very convenient but also costly. I've been complaining about not having a turn with the PC when kids are home. But come Fall, when they go away to school, all these might just be too much a luxury for the two old farts!

Don't worry about it. I just thought about this since I myself often only record the programs I love the most. Shows like Masterpiece, Mysteries, Lost, Survivor.... Since I'd need more time to watch and watch again. But if we are trying to give The Mole some showing of support, I will do it on both tv as well, just like Csnog! :-)

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I don't think I could ever watch tv again without the DVR. Everything goes in there and watch it when I have a bit of time, now I realize the futility of a dvd recorder, who wants to keep recorded movies on dvd when 160 gigabytes drive can contain so many and it seems I can never catch up, there are at least 10 movies (from Movie Central) still to view and it's now 75% full, sometimes I have to watch just to delete and free up space thinking I may run out of it.
I love to rewind for the Mole show (and also for Big Brother) but I still can't spot the clues like so many of you can. I think the more I try to look for clues the more confused I get. So, I'm trying to read the players but they're so hard to read when they're all playing like the Mole.

If Mark is the mole than kudos, because his acting is wonderful.

If Clay is the mole than it was a bit too obvious even for me since I guessed him from the beginning.

If Craig is the mole then kudos to the producers for picking someone who could be too obvious to be suspected.

If Nicole is the Mole then she played it to perfection, making everyone believe she is the Mole to the point of not believing her anymore when indeed she is the Mole.

If Paul is the Mole then kudos to the producers for selecting someone who so blatantly antagonized the players that you could hardly believe he could be the Mole.

I know they all fooled me so close to the end of the game and I respect their play.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Trust me Spunky, we've been living without tivo for one of our two tvs the past three weeks, and it's KILLING me!! We have a tivo on the other TV, but DH and I watch really different programming, so trying to find time for both of us to watch everything is making me nervous that THAT one will crash too!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Grrr.... I hope that never happens to me... but sometimes it's hard to believe the amount of abuse that machine can take... (I am constantly fast forwarding or rewinding or pause live tv, and to gain some time I even watch some shows on ff only to stop only if I see something really interesting). Without that machine I might as well stop watching tv altogether...

well, maybe one exception for the Mole if they keep this show alive...

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
:-) I'm still clueless as to which one of these characters is the mole. They ALL act guilty, and it'd be easy to make a case for any of the remaining people. It's definitely been a good season!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 5:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Oh I second every word in your last post, Teach!

Chicagolooper
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05-09-2004

Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chicagolooper a private message Print Post    
I just thoroughly enjoy the straightforward mole game play -- a few twists here and there, but intellect and fun rule. Everyone is fairly nice for the most part -- except when Paul gets a bit wound up.

Just enjoying the Dickens out of this season and wanting more.

Trini
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07-06-2004

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
..one advantage the mole has on us, he/she can chose to throw or save a challenge so we really cannot come to a decision or even guess by the decision to throw or save...yet I think I know who the mole is...interesting.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Trini ita - that and the "editing" as someone posted what if all the current players do know who the mole is - then the quiz becomes a timed test - of course thats just pure guessing, nothing I've read around the net supports this idea! That's the mole for you!

Trini
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07-06-2004

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
..then again all the current players cannot know who the mole is; unless they each tell one another separately with honesty. Then the game is for us to solve (and we do not get the) and not them.

It will be very interesting who the mole is.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 12:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I updated the "Just the Clues" thread. And we had so many tasty clues for Alex. Sigh.

In the "Producer Clues" thread I posted what this week's text clue is, and it points strongly to a particular person being eliminated. And I bumped into someone(else)'s interpretation of the last web clue, and posted that there too. So interesting stuff but all you non-clue people should enter at your own risk!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I hope this is where I post the show

They divide into smart and dumb nicole and craig are dumb they have more numbers to remember

smart team only have 3 numbers to remember

this mission provides more than enough to sabotage they have 70min

the plaza intalia so off go dumb team

smart team goes the other way to plaza espana

"we're dumb" Craig I do math you do memorizing answer 13

subtract the year columbas landed from the year it was inogre 1947- 1492 = Mark and Paul were arguing is 439 Clay was convinced I had the wrong number I add it to get 1500 and get 439 says clay I"m a math genious 7-2 is 5 says Mark.. oh he is right its 610 this is 610 so clay finaly says ok...

next 13, 21 ok third clue in same placea slides seassaws and swings 55 + 6 = if we came up with a tally he tried to slide me a different number 61 + = 89 13, 21 and now they go to 4th clue...

smart group solve their 2nd clue and off they go

rebuilding of that brought down the city 1863 - 1995 and months of argentinanadn calendar so they ask locals, speaks spanish 12 so now they haead back

last clue

smart team large green cube he kept saying how many blocks Mark Saint Martin aint even here so I found the ladies ocoho blocks oh we went the wrong way says clay... we blew the time 25 min and they went the wrong way...

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I'm having a hard time with family coming in and out and wanting the computer...

the dumb team ended up asking 2 local ladies where they were to go - and Mark is the one that wanted to ask - both Clay and Paul are acting molish tonight imho

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
3 smart players, 2 dumb, Nicole & Craig cause N wants to watch Craig!

Go Figure
Answers(numbers) all over the city of Mendoza, the smart team has to find three to memorize, no writing them down.
Dumb team has more to remember, five.
Seventy minutes, find them ... enter them in that puter, ...

Nic asked C to do Math & she'd memorize. ...
Paul is bad at Math. Clay is suspecting Paul.

I'm miexd up by now...

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Been there, Reader!
You do it for now, I'll fill in when needed.
Some posters might come along.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I thought Paul was more Molish. He had the map and led them the wrong way. That's not very New Yorker.

But Mark was so rude, running away yelling straight from the lady who gave him the correct direction is bad form, even if you're out of time.