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Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 4:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
I am not sure we can blame David's dog for the dog fight. Both dogs were going after each other. The fight was out on the lawn like David said. I didn't like the drama when Star got injured. The footage made it look like Star had collapsed. Cut ears bleed a lot. They could have held a pressure bandage on it. I hope Star was up to date on rabies vaccination in case she was bitten.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 6:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I didn't like the drama either, Dogdoc. It was too much. I think probably most people who own two or more dogs at the same time were rolling their eyes a little they found out what it was. Through the years even when my dogs have play fought, someone eventually ended up with a cut ear. We've had two or 3 good ones in 15 years. I could see him being upset if it was a poisonous snake bite, but how many poisonous snakes would be on that property?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Isn't the show based in So Cal? If so, we have a lot of rattlesnakes here. My dad's dogs have been bitten twice, and they even go thru snake aversion therapy every year. What bothered me, besides the drama, is the way he carries Star around. Always.

I feel sorry for Bella Starlet. With a name like that you just knew what the human would be like. And then to argue with the judges? I don't think she's gonna be long for this show.

Kenji was totally out of control. His human's training techniques did not emphasize positive reinforcement. She has no control over her dog, and it showed.

Loved the expression on Tillman's face... he SOOO wanted that steak!!! (I swear I've seen Tillman before; skateboarding.)

I saw the dog fight was outside, too, and I was appalled that all the other owners were blaming David. It takes two dogs to tangle, and where was the owner then? In a house with that much stress and that many dogs and humans, you'd think you'd be more careful about where your dog is and who's butt is being sniffed by whom?

I thought the other person who should've been in the bottom was Brandi (or is that her dog's name?). Her dog was NOT heeling, she had her on a short leash and she was still pulling. That's not heeling!

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 8:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I was mad at David because he was standing in the doorway, closest to the dogs, and it was Tillman's owner who came running and stopped the fight. David didn't say anything, nor did he show any concern for the bulldog.

I think I am most impressed with the little pomeranian.

Trini
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07-06-2004

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
David always has this clueless look on this face, he knows his dog maybe shoulden't be on the show, like he is always shock to when 'elvis?' obeys.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Poor Kenji. His owner is so hyper, how's he supposed to focus? I hope she was like that because of the stress of wanting to win, not like that all the time.

I wish the judges would just forbid clothing on the dogs.

Don't know which dog started the fight, but David didn't make any move to stop it, and didn't seem to care that the bulldog was bitten. He seems to live in his own little world.

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 3:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
It looks from the previews next week that Elvis is shunned by the other dogs.I really think Tillman's owner over-reacted but Elvis' owner UNDER-reacted.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 3:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
It is usually the owner of the smaller dog that should be worried in a dog fight. Elvis's dad just doesn't react much to anything.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
it may take two dogs to fight but usually one is the inciter and may keep after the other one. For example - my dog - was in shelter for 5 years since being dropped off by the owner as a young pup (said she was vicious). Well, since the dog was called vicious she was kept in a crate away from other dogs and never got socialized and thinks it is her job to get in any other dogs face baring teeth and growling. I have socialized her a bit and it is not so serious anymore, but she still barks like crazy seeing another dog and then stops instead of keeping it up. never going to be a show dog, but a little better every day, I have had her 2.5 years now and she is sitting on the stoop tied on a lead now but I have to be ready to jump up if someone walks past with a dog.

What I am saying is that maybe it takes one committed dog and one annoyed dog to fight.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
soooo funny...
i am watching an episode of 'it's me or the dog' and 'americas's dog' judge,victoria, is teaching the dog owners to use sharp yips to get the dogs attention. and the entire family of four is practicing little yipping sounds just like kenji's owner. the poor thing probably thought that that was what was proper after seeing this episode.

Bombaycat
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07-21-2007

Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bombaycat a private message Print Post    
Dovez - That sharp yip is Victoria's trademark sound. She uses it in every episode of "It's me or the Dog." When Kenji's owner first started using it I thought "She's seen Victoria in action." However, she took it way too far.

I'm glad they were eliminated, but I feel sorry for Kenji. I just hope the owner is calmer and more forgiving of the dog when she gets home.

Like I said upthread I'm a cat person, but I'm loving this show.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
well, she is very good at doing it! she also placed a big slab of steak in front of the dogs with the "leave it" command. i was feeling a bit of deja vu.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 12:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
In the last scene, where Kenji's head is in the woman's lap, I didn't see the dog move at all and she went "eh." I did yell "shut up" at her several times.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I dont like the way Kenji's owner grabs Kenji's snout - and I too watch Victoria's show - like Sadie's mom I just adopted two terrier mixes that were dropped off and were "aggressive to other dogs" they'd been in the shelter for 9 months - but crated together! When we saw them they were licking us, and following our commands - the staff were amazed!! These 2 did not bark as other dogs were walked by our 'interaction" room - - so we adopted them...

and they are a lot of work - the male w/o provacation will attack visciously sounding the female when he cant get to other dogs - that first week - so I worked really hard at getting them to sit and "no bark" when other dogs walk by - a lot of work, even had a friend come over and help me socialize them with her larger dog...

so after watching the episode, I was wondering if I make that sound too much!!! I'm much more aware of when I make it now!!

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 10:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Victoria Stillwell does use that sound as a distraction/correction for behavior modification. She just uses it once and the dog generally responds.

However, it if doesn't work on a particular dog, she uses something else, and doesn't just keep going on and on and on...

We looked at white lab puppies, but the one they had remaining was 10 weeks old and already weighed as much as our JRT and beagle; so we decided to wait. He sure was a cutie tho! And so sweet!

Puttergirl
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08-11-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puttergirl a private message Print Post    
I have a rat terrier. When we went to obedience training by a reputable company, while he was still a puppy, I was taught the technique of grabbing the dogs snout when he is barking out of control. Its a technique alot of trainers teach. So when you see something like that done, its not always the owner who initiated it. I think Kenji's owner was too brusque and frequent with it though, and she didn't give enough positive reinforcement when Kenji was acting good.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Costa, I think Tillman was on Oprah this past year doing his skateboarding.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't watch Oprah, BC, but it's possible I've seen him somewhere else. I can't remember where, but I know I have! :-)

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, July 21, 2008 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Tyson was the name of the skateboarding bulldog on Oprah.

Tillman was in an iPhone ad last year. He also lives in Ventura, so Costa, you may have seen him around there?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 4:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I dunno, Kar, but I swear it's driving me nuts! I'm sure I'll remember sometime, like in the middle of the night. I'll wake up and go "ah ha!"

I'm thinking maybe he performed in something down here (well, I'm in the Bay Area right now, but "down here" being home), and I caught him on the local news or something.

I just googled him, and there are a TON of hits. Looks like I might've seen him on dogster.com, or Veoh.com (a local video streaming company started by friends).

But since he also surfs, I'm thinking maybe he "performed" at one of our local surfing competitions and then was featured on the local news afterwards. I do remember thinking how happy (and proud? can dogs look proud?) he was performing.

At any rate, I'm thinking it's interesting that such a "well-known" dog is competing. Of course, Tillman may have some awesome tricks up his, er, sleeve, but that doesn't mean he's always gonna perform best (although I must admit, I was SO impressed he didn't snag that steak off the plate!).

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Wow, Tillman snow boards, too.

http://blogs.tampabay.com/juice/2008/06/meet-tillman-th.html

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Tuesday, July 22, 2008 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
they should have named this "greatest american professional dog".

isn't the frisbee catching dog on a show team, too?

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 5:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I missed last week's show. I wasn't happy to see Kinje gone .

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 5:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Elvis has left the building. It wasn't that funny. My eyes did get a little moist though.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I thought Tillman should have gone, even tho I like them. Ron didn't put any effort into teaching Tillman to push that cart. David put a lot of time/effort into trying to teach Elvis to do his task. I don't get it.