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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 12:04 pm
I figure the handlers talk to the mole during his confessionals. No suspision there since they all have to be taped alone for confessionals
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 1:00 pm
Charmom....you dont click on Paul's pic, just put your cursor over his face in the pic above. It will give you a secret message Yep just make sure you don't put your cursor over any of the other pictures first. *L*
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 1:10 pm

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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 2:41 pm
Aha! Jimmer IS the Mole!! 
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 4:46 pm
Am I also the only person that thought that "Hypothermia" was an odd reason given for Craig's medical distress? I don't mean to be rude, but he is a big guy, and I would have thought the issue was more related to his breathing and panic over the lack of oxygen. I couldn't see him getting too cold when he was just as warmly dressed as the other people.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 5:08 pm
LOL at the new clue in the banner. Love it! You know, now that you mention it, I did think hypothermia was strange in that only Craig got it. Not to be mean, but he had the most natural insulation. I'm glad it wasn't something worse, but it does make you wonder. His face sure was red, though. Would heavier breathing give him hypothermia faster than the others? I know nothing about hypothermia. Bear in mind, having a true medical problem doesn't exclude one from being the Mole. I remember in one of the early seasons there was a female Mole who passed out cold when a contestant had to shoot arrows at her head. Turned out it wasn't a ploy, and she had genuinely fainted from fear.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 6:25 pm
Yep! I do remember that. She also genuinely refused to cut/shave(?) her hair on account of her up-coming wedding!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 6:35 pm
I don't know if this is right or not, but what was Craig wearing? Some bigger people often get more hot with exercise and therefore wear less layers than slimmer people. I don't know if that would put him at a higher risk of exposure when the temperature is that cold, because the skin in contact with the cold air is still cooled whether he feels hot inside or now. I don't really know, but I don't think the hypothermia was fake.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 6:53 pm
I also wondered if he may have been sweating more under his clothes, and if that may have brought on the hypothermia once the exertion part was over.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 9:02 pm
Craig also said that he lived in San Diego, and it hardly ever goes below 70^ there. I know when I moved from Iowa to Kentucky, and I went to the laundry room in shorts when it was 60^ out [it was -5^ in Iowa at that time] people looked at me like I was crazy. But I was used to the cold. Craig is not used to the cold.
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 9:43 pm
But being mentally used to the cold is not the same thing as being physiologically tolerant to the cold, is it? I live in Toronto, and I used to weigh 20-30 pounds more than I do now. And I can say that I used to tolerate cold much better before than I do now. Natural padding counts.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 5:46 am
Yes natural padding counts. I don't think it's mentally used to the cold. It's a physical thing. IF Craig has always lived in San Diego, he's never experienced for a long extended time the cold like he did there. Add that to the thinness of the air, physical exertion, and him sweating, which would make him colder. And I'm the reverse of you. I used to be 50lbs lighter 5 years ago. I could tolerate the winters much better back then.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 6:12 am
Just a few facts about Hypothermia: The body loses heat in several ways. 55-65% is lost to the environment via radiation. Conduction only accounts for 2-3% in dry conditions, but this figure can increase to 50% if the victim is immersed in cold water. Convection accounts for 10%, while 2-9% is lost to heating inspired air. 20-27% is lost as a result of evaporation from the skin and lungs. In secondary hypothermia, something goes wrong with the body’s heat-balancing mechanisms. People with such diseases as stroke, spinal cord injury, low blood sugar, and a variety of skin disorders can become hypothermic in only mildly cool air. Hypothermia Symptoms Although the distinctions among mild, moderate, and severe hypothermia are not often clear, a somewhat constant sequence of events occurs as core body temperatures continue to decline. At temperatures below 95°F (35°C), shivering is seen. Heart rate, breathing rate, and blood pressure increase. As the temperature drops further, pulse, breathing rate, and blood pressure all decrease. You may experience some clumsiness, apathy, confusion, and slurred speech. As core temperature drops lower than 89.9°F (32.2°C), shivering stops and oxygen consumption begins to drop. The victim may be in a stupor. The heart rhythm may become irregular. At temperatures below 82.4°F (28°C), reflexes are lost and cardiac output continues to fall. The risk of dangerously irregular heart rhythms increases, and brain activity is seriously slowed. The pupils are dilated, and the victim appears comatose or dead.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:48 am
I guess Craig might not be 100% healthy in the pomp department. But when in the middle of Hypothermia is one supposed to turn red like he did?
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:49 am
Wow, I am so surprised that Victoria isn't the Mole! Great job ABC! It was that thumbprint that did it for me, although I am always second guessing myself and see every little thing as moleish! Next thing you know, Mark (the only one who I don't think is the Mole) will be the Mole!!!! I am really enjoying this thread! Thanks everyone!
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:34 am
But when in the middle of Hypothermia is one supposed to turn red like he did? Not sure Chy. Maybe when you reach this point: Heart rate, breathing rate, and blood pressure increase.? I know when I do alot of exercising, mow the lawn, shovel snow, etc., I turn beet red and people think I am stroking out. And I promise you when I'm shoveling snow and I'm beat read it's not cuz I'm hot. Also if I get into a heated discussion, and my blood pressure goes up, my face is beet red. Not trying to prove whether Craig was faking or not or whether he is the Mole or not. Just trying to make a point that just because a person is fat doesn't make them less likely to get hypothermia because of the extra padding. I have PLENTY of extra padding and get so much colder these days than 5 years ago when I weighed alot less.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:34 am
Yes, Chy, I think that's the stage before. At some point all your blood goes to warming your extremities so that they don't freeze (and drop off maybe!) and it's after that, when your body decides that your extremities are a lost cause, that the blood centres at your core, to keep your vital organs going. THAT's when you're in trouble. So Craig's red face at the top of the mountain is consistent. But it's also consistent with a lot of exercise. Aren't we all a bunch of amateur medics .
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 10:43 am
You know, now that you mention it, I did think hypothermia was strange in that only Craig got it. We need to keep in mind tho that some heavy people do not have the best circulation, and therefore could get colder faster. I deleted the episode, but does anybody know what the exact diagnosis that was told - either by Craig or the voice over? I thought there was more than just the Hypothermia.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 3:19 pm
Is somebody keeping track of our picks?? Which player the majority of our posters think is the Mole??? According to the many posts here someone should have an idea... I am too distracted.. I believe there were a lot people thinking Paul or Alex or even Craig... I keep hammering it's Clay... no women Mole this time..
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 6:29 pm
I've updated the "Just the Clues" thread with the info we've found for this week. We include "speculation" clues and "producer" clues, so the new people here and old "no clues" people might not want to go there. Just a warning!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:12 pm
Interesting clues Kitt. Some players have so much pointing to them and others have practically nothing.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:22 pm
Ah, phooey! My DVR deleted the episode. As I recall, Craig was struggling going up the mountain (when his face turned red) but it was after they all came back down the mountain that he started having trouble breathing. I'm pretty sure they just diagnosed it as hypothermia, and they let him come back to the cabin so it couldn't have been too severe. They just had him stay in bed for the rest of the day. As to who we think is the Mole, my suspicion changes each week. I've got it narrowed down to one of five people. 
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 7:34 pm
After some reading, I think that having hypothermia means you turn dead white, not red. Getting red means that your body IS circulating blood. I have Reynaud's Syndrome, and because my body doesn't circulate blood very well, my fingers and toes turn dead white if they get too cold, even though the rest of me will be fine. His redness tells me that his circulation system was working overtime. Even if Craig is not the mole, I think hypothermia as the excuse for his problems on the Andes was incorrect. I think maybe he WAS starving for oxygen , and his panic and his unfit body led to his loss of consciousness. But given his size, and the very red tone of his skin, I do not believe he was suffering from hypothermia.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:07 pm
We were in S.A. and were given a local tea to drink continually or we could get sick and have severe headaches. I don't know when they filmed the show but it looks like it was during the shoulder season sometime between seasons.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:23 pm
The other part of his diagnosis was altitude sickness, I think.
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