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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:13 pm
Well, there's one less suspect. Craig was sure looking Moley tonight. He, Clay, and Mark caused the most trouble for sure. Mark seems to be coming a bit unglued, which is either great acting or a good indication that he's not the Mole. What an amazing coincidence that Craig mentioned an exemption and got to arrange the next challenge. Sure, any one of them might've mentioned exemptions, but Craig did it in a way that didn't make sense. His medical problems might warrant an exemption? Yeah, right. And why did the host ask him how he was feeling that morning rather than before he stuck them out there in that cold house? Suspicious. That exchange felt pre-arranged. I don't blame them for not attempting that last challenge. It's true that even running they wouldn't have been able to make it in 45 minutes. Adding in time to learn the unicycle and stilts would've made it impossible. Why bother? If you're going to fail anyway, why do it dressed as a llama's butt?
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Darclyte
Member
07-11-2005
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 8:52 pm
I have not read any "spoilers." I've read that a bunch of folks think that it's Craig. Me, I think it's Mark and he's trying to throw people off the scent. He's done his part to sabotage but done it in ways that made it less suspicious. The interesting person here is Alex. Alex is making a perfect mole in personality, but I don't recall where he's sabotaged anything. Also perfect mole behavior. I think the show was trying to get us to fall for Clay tonight, but I'm not buying it. Nope, I think it's Mark, but Alex has the perfect Mole attitude.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 9:33 pm
Looks like two weeks. It's not on next week. Three hours of the bachelorette. Ugh!
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Ramsfan
Member
01-27-2004
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 10:33 pm
I don't think the Mole has much to do with this bunch. They constantly sabotage themselves with their constant squabbling over exemptions. I mean they didn't even try one of the tasks tonight. I might be feeling nostalgic, but I don't remember the original Mole being like this.
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Ritsin
Member
05-06-2005
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:08 pm
The word "sour" was mentioned again early in the show I just can't remember when it was. It stuck out because of all the pisco sours in previous shows. Then later on Paul went on about his lemon and how he was never going to lose it. Didn't he brag in an earlier show about the sour look he drew on it?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:10 pm
Ooo lots of moley stuff this week! Craig mentioning the word exemption in an odd sense, and then trying for it so hard. Mark being so awkward with the jail challenge. Clay being so awkward with the jail challenge. Kristen not wanting to try the stilts (seemed easy giving her athleticism) - I know, she was executed, but it was still moleish! Paul NOT taking the exemption seemed moleishly out of character. Ditto Nicole. And to be complete I'll add in Alex who looks moleish for being so unmoleish. I'm still with Clay or Alex. My heart's still with Alex but Clay is looking more suspicious. I don't believe it's any of the others. Which probably means Clay and Alex are the next to go.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, June 30, 2008 - 11:14 pm
Agreed Ramsfan! It's amazing they completed that all-for-one task. I guess they really wanted to sleep. Yes, Ritsin, I noticed that too.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 6:07 am
I have only seen a few snippets of this show here and there. All I can say is what a bunch of babies (Almost all of them) with the challenge where they were to do things like walk on stilts or wear scuba gear... Are they always like that? So at this point (and from my limited POV) the only one I like is Craig. Though I think I like Clay and the one who started to put on the conquistador outfit. Really don't care for Nicole and Mark.
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Houstonndirish
Member
03-23-2006
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 6:11 am
I totally agree Ramsfan. Seems like they have all taken the route of trying to look like the mole. The mole doesn't have to work very hard with this group, unlike previous seasons. I thought Craig saying "exemption" first the next morning seemed really out of whack as what he said didn't flow with the conversation. Although we don't know how that was edited. Clay sure looked suspicious as well and then there's Mark. He just seems too intense which seems to be throwing people off as well. This one is going to be interesting when the mole is revealed!
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 6:40 am
Let's not forget that there is a tv crew travelling with them... a lot of insight comes from observing the interaction between the crew and the players... are we sure they don't already know who the mole is?? I remember the first season players got suspicious when someone from the crew (maybe even the producers) spent some time with a player, were they feeding instructions??? (I am more paranoid than ever, but you can see that there is some room for this to happen, noticed how when the players talk to the audience they're alone with the cameras??? hello??? those people are the crew and producers, plenty of times to feed them the line or suggestions, instructions!!) The fact that Jon got Craig to pick the teams and set up a mission impossible challenge to get an exemption may be because they (producers) need to divert the suspicion on the real mole and by making Craig so openly hostile they forget who the Mole really is, I would be surprised if Craig is the mole, he has been favoured too many times (kept the journal and offered easy exemption). Someone must have told Clay to keep retaliating with Paul, I doubt it was his idea when all he wanted to do was remain under the radar.. (to hide his true intentions... these are his words!!!!). However, Clay has acted for the third show in a row in a way that makes me think he may not be the mole after all... my attention is shifting to another more suspicious fellow and that is Alex... boy, he's a cool dude!!!!!! The perfect mole, by far. Mark, seems too desperate and wants to play hard, giving up the exemption was important to him to remain socially acceptable by the others... or was it a whole set up to throw suspicion on someone else... Remember, at this point it's more important that the others get more confused so that they don't have too many ties on the scoreboard and too many right answers... noticed how the questions are now singling out the players.. if anyone answered "yes" to "Is the mole the one using the sleeping bag in the prison cell..." (Clay was the only one), well, then the producers should know (if Clay is the mole) how the players are near or far off the mark... Paul, is too wacko to be the mole, the producers would have had an idea (during the selection process) that he was a hot head (I don't think its an act) and he simply could not be trusted with the Mole's job... boy, can you imagine Paul in the Big Brother house?? Nicole got a lot of attention when she was a pain to everyone, but lately her smart moves (playing along with the group) could make people even more suspicious, however from her reaction to Kristen's loss she looked a bit afraid and confused... Noticed how Clay's reaction was to remain like a statue, so did Craig, Paul was shaking his head, while I think Alex had is head bent low... Mark was inscrutable... he either acts so well or he's genuine... I can't figure him out.. But Alex is getting my attention....
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 7:07 am
can you imagine Paul in the Big Brother house?? too funny! I was just about to post that! 
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Redhawk
Member
05-23-2007
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 7:48 am
Just before the Q & As Kristen said, “I've got a one out of six chance of staying.” What she should have said is she had a one out of six chance of being executed!
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Gurliegirl
Member
06-20-2006
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 8:37 am
I don't know where to post this. If I'm in the wrong place...my apologies. I don't think this was a Producer Clue, I think it was an Oops, but I could also be hearing things. I could have sworn during one of Alex's interviews last night he very briefly slipped into a British accent. It was very subtle and lasted about 2 syllables, but if he's the Mole, he could be a British dude using an American accent. (Or, it could have been my imagination.)
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 10:41 am
I have thought it was Alex from the beginning. Probably because not too much camera time is focused on him. Frankly, being the mole is pretty easy this season. Basically, everyone else is acting so much like the mole that the mole can just sit back and watch most of the time. OH and... let's put both Paul AND Mark there. Now, that would be interesting.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 11:12 am
As much as I love this show, I admit that I am getting a bit discouraged with respect to figuring out who the Mole is or for that matter the players figuring it out. The players are constantly sabotaging themselves and acting mole-like. It is so hard to guess I'm starting to wonder if winning this show is mostly pure luck rather than skill? As far as figuring out who the Mole is, someone touched on an interesting theory up above. The women are doing very badly at this game this season. Is there some commonality there that would give us a hint to who the Mole might be?
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:02 pm
I am a bit discouraged. I was wondering why I didn't care to talk about it so much today. Well, we will have the next two weeks to distant ourselves from the craziness and perhaps see through the fog again. I was one who can not make sense out of the fact that most of the women are gone by now. What does this mean? First I thought it meant a female Mole. Because in my reasons, a female Mole would have more opportunities to confuse female players who "she" spends more time with. "She" might even be able to share wrong info or bring up ridiculous doubts. But now that Nicole is the only female left, I'm not sure that is true. Although she did say in the beginning something about: Why is every one I suspected turns up Axed? I had a tinge in me saying, perhaps it's because you are the Mole! But then, as the show went on, there was so mush cookiness going on, that idea kind of faded itself out. I don't know any more. If she's not the Mole, her staying on is mostly luck! Only one second of difference between Kristen & the person safe. Nicole is probably that person, unless she's the Mole.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:16 pm
I'm batting 0 for 2. First I thought for sure it was Victoria then she got booted and I thought doh Kristen is the Mole....Doh! Gulp! Now I'm going with my husbands initial pick of Craig.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:21 pm
The male/female thing could work both ways though. It could be that the mole is male, spends more time with other males, has slipped up a little and the other males have spotted clues and are therefore answering more questions correctly.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:25 pm
At the very beginning, Clay says what seems an earnest piece about thanking God for keeping him in the game. That's in his confessional video thingy. I would have thought a religious man, which Clay is meant to be, wouldn't do that if he was a mole.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:51 pm
As for winning the mole being total luck, I just finished watching Celebrity Mole. I enjoyed it a lot. I think most of us were down on it because we were missing the original Mole with yummy Andersen Cooper. I digress.... In watching the finale of Celebrity mole, the final 2 players had completely guessed the mole wrong up until final 3! A few times they barely squeeked by, one having an excemption the week they did worst on the test and the other one tying for worst score on the test a few times but always having the faster score. So, yes, luck was huge in their case.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 1:54 pm
With the loss of Kristin, Alex is moving up my list of suspects. 1. Clay 2. Alex 3. Craig 4. Nicole -- she has toned it way down so she's now climbing my suspect list. LOL Mark and Paul were both getting on my nerves last night.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 2:32 pm
A really good case could be made for any one of them being the Mole, but I'm also finding that a good case can be made for any of them not being the Mole. Craig said "The good news is now everyone thinks I'm the Mole." If he really is the Mole that's not good news, but as Spunky pointed out, that could've been something the producers told him to say to throw us off. Mark comes across as too desperate to be the Mole. It could just be an act, but from what he said last night I think he was just milking the paranoia thing so they'd let him be the last to leave that room. He knew everyone thought he would take the exemption, so they went ahead of him to avoid getting stuck outside. Since he didn't take it, it makes it hard to believe he's the Mole. He did start the mutiny on the next challenge, but that was a pointless challenge anyway. There was no way on Earth they could've made that distance in 45 minutes on stilts, a unicycle, and leading a donkey along. You know they probably set them up with a faulty unicycle and the most stubborn donkey in town. Now Alex's behavior was interesting. He was the only one willing to try that last challenge, which means (a) he's the Mole and wanted to give the producers a good show, (b) he's desperate to add money to the pot, or (c) he's just a really good sport. Loved his comment about Nicole's "paltry sum" remark. That woman better hope she never has to find out what a paltry sum really looks like. Nicole has been coming across very Mole-ish in the past, but I'm still not ready to fully suspect her. She would be a good choice for the Mole, since she can use her "I don't need the money" attitude as an excuse to sabotage challenges. I just can't imagine the Mole threatening to kill someone in their sleep. I think she and Paul are playing the same game of trying to get people angry to throw them off their game. I loved seeing Clay turn that game around on Paul. It didn't take much, and Paul's anger lasted into the next morning. Hitting him with his own lemon was a bit odd, though. Funny, but odd. Craig is still a great suspect because it was odd that he'd go so far for an exemption after they'd been so compassionate about his sickness. It was good strategy for getting an exemption, but he should've known these people were too tightly wound at that point to appreciate his sense of humor. Just the "exemption-worthy" comment alone was suspicious enough. I agree with the sentiment that there are too many people acting like the Mole. If everyone is sabotaging, can you really claim one person as the Mole? They'd need to really step it up to show that they sabotaged the game more than anyone else. The most interesting part of this episode was when Kristen explained that most of the players had been playing the odds. So now we know we can't go by who the contestants say they suspect. They're just playing the odds, except maybe Paul. I think he commented that Craig's been at the top of his list since the beginning. Maybe he's the one who tied with Kristen.
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 3:59 pm
Is it just me or is the background for Marks picture very different from all the rest? It seems like everyone esle has sky in the background and he is the only one who doesn't. I assume these are official pictures, just think it's interesting.
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Spunky
Member
10-08-2001
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 4:17 pm
Great points!!! One thing that Nicole said which I think a Mole would never say.... "it's only 25 thou, it's not a million" (during the dinner). Can you imagine a Mole saying that?? It doesn't make the show's producers look good, does it?? (I mean, you just said the game is "cheap" and I don't think a Mole would say something so critical of the game). But as everyone said, everyone is playing too much like the Mole and yet as Curly said there are so many details that make you think none of them is the Mole... Someone mentioned a British accent that Alex has... good catch! I can see a Brit using the term "paltry sum" more so than an American... Kitt, thanks for that other thing you mentioned which makes me doubt Clay now... the religious thing, and it surprises me the use of God as your saviour in this game if you're the Mole... But what he said (to the camera) "to hide my true intentions" made me go back to my first instinct that he's the Mole even as Alex is becoming a stronger suspect... About the women vs men Mole, I usually opt for women but this season I went straight for one of the men being the Mole... maybe Nicole could prove me I'm totally wrong... so I can't wait till she's executed to feel a bit more confident in my observations...
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, July 01, 2008 - 6:26 pm
I think it was Nicole who said it was a "paltry sum," wasn't it? Alex was reacting to her characterizing it that way. Mark's picture being different makes you wonder, but would they be that obvious? Maybe they would, expecting us to assume it was too obvious. You just never know. 
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