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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 12:48 pm
About the double eviction - there are 10 episodes total, three seen which leaves seven. It makes sense to have five episodes with one person each time leaving either by execution or bribe, then a final show with the top two and the mole, and then a reunion/reveal what the mole did show. As this bribe was so early I bet they'll do another one, but that time there won't also be an eviction.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 4:29 pm
Lycan! Two Moles?? I didn't see discussions about it. Is that just your personal speculations, or is it a spoiler?? Reader, DD did the same thing to me. Way before the show started, I had to make an appointment with her that I want both PC and TV at the same time. So she did have a good time laughing at me talking to imaginary on-line friends! Haha! Kitt, believe it or not, I'm not talking about the kind of clues in that thread. I'm probably slow to embrace the tech side of the clues. But I don't usually spent time with those flashes. I'm talking about things they did, said or acted/seemed on the show. I do think Mark is a player rather than the Mole. He's in a coalition with Clay and probably wanted to confuse the others as to which of them was Mole-ish. Some where I also read that they thought they saw a small hole on Mark's undie. I'm not standing by that one and I will not check on that. I have dignity to keep, ;) you know ....!
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 4:31 pm
When they were at the site of the last Execution- they mentioned the designer of the place they were at was Alexandre Gustave Eiffel. Yep-same guy who did the Eiffel tower. The Eiffel tower is in Paris. There's a Paris, Texas....only one person is from Texas... and it's also speculated that the text clues are clues as to who is going to be eliminated that week- not who the mole is....
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 4:35 pm
But we also have a player named Alex, Wilson. Last epi there was another Alexander they mentioned. Could someone help me with that name and instance? I think that's another reason I look at Alex with suspicions. 
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Lycanthrope
Member
09-19-2002
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 6:00 pm
Chy, just my speculation. It would be like clever producers to do something we'd never expect. Definitely not a spoiler, but it didn't originate with me. I read it on another board a few days after the season premiere, but dismissed it. But since there are clues leading to both male and female moles, I thought I'd throw it out there. Can anyone tell me where the "text" clues are located?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 6:04 pm
You get the text clues if you text themole to that text number they advertise on abc. Someone here or the Clues thread said they might be to do with who's evicted, not who's the mole, but I don't know how official that is.
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Lycanthrope
Member
09-19-2002
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 6:08 pm
Thanks, Kitt, I think I'll let folks here contribute the text clues, then.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 7:19 pm
Lycan, good one on the Mole sauce!!!! that really makes me think its her...love the dual mole idea!!! haaha if it's Vic I called it before show started just from the way the ad was layed out in EW LOL
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Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:05 am
Well this ep blow me out of the water as to who I thought the mole was! I thought it was Bobby and honestly after last weeks show I blurted out to my DH who I thought it was and he laughed and said watch next week Bobby will be gone. Because that happens all the time. LOL I was really wondering about Mark this time. He disrobed so fast and then decided not to do the task with Clay. Was Clay his partner? Would Mark had to do the task alone? Those are the only 2 things I could think of as to why he didn't do it. That mole thumbprint was throwing me off this time too. There was too many of them. LOL I asked my MIL about Mark and she doesn't know anything about him. I asked my SIL, who works at a fast food joint in Mukwonago, to ask some of her teenage employees if they know him and what they think.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 4:56 am
do you think they could digitly add that mole print to the helmets post production? I wondered if they read boards and saw everyone figured out the mole on 1st ep so they added prints everywhere. if there is 2 and Vic is one then I submit Alex is other just because they are at opposite ends of the alphabet! LOL I love trying to figure all this out!
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 5:57 am
I think I am going to stick with Victoria as my pick for Mole too......Alex my second choice as well.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 7:44 pm
Chy, even on Lost I avoid spoilers. I'm fine with speculating based on the contestants' behavior, though. I'm even fine with reading other people's ideas about clues found on the show. I'm just having trouble getting myself to care enough to seek out and analyze clues for this show. And like I said, I'm not sure this show would hold my interest if I did figure out who the mole was. I don't know. Maybe it would give my brain something to do while waiting for the next Lost ARG. On the other hand, I do have my new addiction to Sleuth: Shades of Mystery to keep my mind occupied. The Craig and Bobby number 10 joke cracked me up, as did Bobby's reaction to the woman's comment on his weight. Too funny. So all clues aside and just going by your gut feeling, who does everybody currently think the mole is? Since it's usually the one I'm not suspecting, I guess I'd have to go with Craig (for now). Kristen is another good choice. She seems under the radar and very intelligent.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 7:57 pm
Curly - based on that theory (which I tend to have also - ) I wonder about Mark - he just doesnt appear Mole'ish AT ALL to me!! But, then when I went to college to be a teacher we were required to take a Drama class!! 
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 8:36 pm
I am horrible at guessing the mole. I figured it wasn't Bobby. And I don't think it's Paul becuase he's acting way too obnoxious. If I had to pick someone I'd guess Clay.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 8:41 pm
I am kind of leaning towards Alex for no real apparent reason. He seems to stay in the background a bit when the drama is going on.
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Tuesday, June 17, 2008 - 10:09 pm
Curly, I know what you mean about avoiding spoilers. The Survivor: China is the only time I got so deep in spoilers since I could read Blogs, diaries and posts in Chinese. <I actually just started to watch LOST 4.8 & beyond this week, saving the season finale for a while still!> Here are my thoughts: (I think they are spoiler-free, most of it C&P from the other thread though.) Victoria is acting more like a Mole in my book. She could speak Spanish now. But she was more into giving Catholics boys a good show :D than getting the attire put together for her team of three. She subtly sabotaged the Pot in the Fruit of the Luge challenge. She gave a poor attempt to take the bribe. Funny thing is, Jon re-offered and even fattened the bribe immediately after her turn. If she was just a player, Jon might have just accept her last "second" request to take the money and walk away. AND, great catch by Lycan! "Mole Sauce" and Victoria's chocolate massage!! What do you all think? Kristen could easily fumble and not make the most money in the FotL task. Craig could just stood back and watch Alex smash all them pigs last epi. Which means Alex is still some what suspicious. And Clay's not contributing any money this week is certainly not missed by us! (Plus the fact that he could have cost Bobby's execution by feeding him wrong info.) I'm not spamming. I just want to talk to posters who does not go to the spoiler thread as well. PS: You can google it, but Mole(Say: Mo-Lay) Sauce in Mexican/Spanish cooking is mostly thought of as that sauce made with chile AND chocolate/cocco.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 12:47 am
That's an interesting idea about the mole sauce. Now that you mention it, I do remember thinking Victoria was overdoing it with her reaction to the bribe. If I recall correctly, Paul gave her a look at the time that made me wonder if he was suspicious of her behavior. Then he started doing the same thing, pretending to be so very tempted. Hmm. I guess you have to keep score of how many mistakes have happened for each person, since they'll all probably try to act mole-ish at some point to throw each other off. I've always wondered if the Mole is allowed to actually target one particular contestant to fail, rather than just sabotaging the group as a whole. It would seem to be kind of unfair if that were the case.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 7:30 am
Mole sauce - yum!! (and Chy I appreciated your time over at Survivor!!0 Curly - I believe I remember an "after the show" of a previous Mole, and the producers have a meeting with the Mole to discuss how to "sabotage" the mission - so the Mole really follows a script, as opposed to doing it strictly on their own - (and the producers meet with all the contestants and set up their Diary time - so they dont get suspicious - as in hmmmm why does XXXXXXX always meet with the producers and I never do??!!)
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Kstme
Member
08-14-2000
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 6:45 pm
On the first show, I decided it was Victoria. Nothing scientific, no facts, just feeling. As the show goes on (thank goodness, it's back), I still feel Victoria is the mole. There have been a bunch of 'little' things...the luge ride, when the money was offered, the look on her face, last week during Liz's eviction...just something screams at me. I love this show! I love the new host! I like 'most' of the people (sans Paul)! Give me MORE Mole!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 7:04 pm
Oh, boy. Now that my post was moved out of the other thread, it makes little sense. It made sense when I posted it, I swear. I guess I forgot I was in the "no speculation" thread at the time.
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Lake_gal
Member
06-09-2004
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 9:57 pm
I speculate Craig is the mole. I have felt that way since the first ep and nothing has changed my mind yet. He even wandered around with the card with the laundromat address on it. He kept looking at it like he knew what it meant. Then with minutes to go he finds their clothes and looks like the hero. To me it seemed like Craig knew where the clothes were all along.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:14 am
My first gut impression was that Kristen is the mole. That was from seeing one of the very first commercials before the show even started. She is very under the radar. It really sticks in my mind though that Victoria had that green thumbprint on her helmet in that waterfall episode. Also, she seemed like an actress during the test results time in the last episode. From the preview, Craig leaving on a gurney seems mole-like. I remember in the past, they had to get the mole alone at times. (maybe for longer than it takes to do a diary session)
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 10:41 am
I remember Admiral Bill refused to wear the diaper, Clay refused to walk around in his underwear. IMO the mole's sabotage has to be subtler than the other players sabotage, so that the most blatant is the one people focus on. Notice how everyone was focusing on Mark opting out and not Clay? You would think the Mole has the most difficult job, where he has to deceive and sabotage every mission but there are so many possible sabotages in almost every mission that the Mole's is well concealed. After this week I am leaning towards Clay, Craig or Alex.
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Panda
Member
07-15-2005
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:06 am
Clay is slowly getting on my radar.
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:07 am
Craig is very mole-like I agree. Some of the tasks that have to completed, if he doesn't complete them or his actions result in someone else not completing the task, he could blame it on his size, stamina etc and not be suspected. If I remember, it was his suggestion that Bobby ride in the wheelbarrow and that resulted in his team not bringing any piggies back. Sabotage also means stall tactics, giving wrong info etc. Him looking like the hero bringing back the clothes could be to throw others off his trail, he was the one who figured that out at the last minute. The fact that he and Victoria continued to speak after the luge was overshadowed by the fact that most people were focusing on Victoria and then Nicole with the two apples and Bobby and the pear. Mole has to be UTR imo and also appear to be contributing. Craig said nothing would fit him in Santiago so if he did end up having nothing to wear, that wouldn't necessarily be construed as sabotage by the other players. There are so many things that could be construed as sabotage, the mole's sabotage can be hidden nicely.
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