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Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i think if i was being my best as a parent, i would aim for the positive spin, but i can't say that in total frustration and exhaustion, I have never said something like 'please stop acting like a baby'.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Actually when I get frustrated, but still have my humor intact, I say to abby, "Stop acting like a two year old!" (haha, cuz she IS a two year old!) I know I do get frustrated, but I honestly *think* I can say i never called her or Ryan a baby. I've probably said something like "stop it" or "knock it off" in a less than patient way.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I use the stop acting like a 2 year old line all the time and they're much older than 2. They usually laugh and adjust their attitude. I'm a horrible mother.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Saturday, July 12, 2008 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I really hope you meant that to be cheeky, Webchiq. You are not a horrible mother. Sometimes kids just need to be reminded that whining and tantrums aren't appropriate for older children!

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
LOL, of course I did. I'm quite sarcastic, by nature.

My kids are great and I'm a really good mother.

I would not have yelled at Sasha or come at her, telling her directly that she didn't do well, that doesn't work with teenagers. Also, she's been away from home for 2 weeks and we saw how homesick Alecia was, they are probably all stressed out and tired and this is not an easy experiment and so she overreacted to the mom's criticism.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I would agree with you that the teens were tired, homesick and stressed, but that doesn't excuse Sasha having to be physically held back from the mom and pushed out the door. Even for a teenager, that's ridiculous.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I didn't think the mother was yelling at Sasha until Sasha cut her off and started raising her voice, which of course forces the other person to yell to be heard. The girl wasn't even mature enough to have a conversation, much less raise children. She was way out of line and should've been sent home to have her mother wash her mouth out. That was ridiculous. This was my first time watching these shows (caught the replays on WE), and what made me cringe the most was all the cursing going on in the houses where babies are present.

Seriously, all that mother did was say "You should've tried to..." and the girl went off on a hysterical ego trip. If she'd let the woman finish she might've learned exactly what it was that would've made the child stop crying. It might've come in handy one day when their own children are crying. Instead she cut the woman off as soon as she heard the word "tried" and went off on an escalating profane tangent. I thought the mother was as calm and rational as could be, and was in no way attacking those two. Criticizing is not attacking, and if you've just watched your baby cry for three days I think it's reasonable to tell the caretakers "You didn't do well." In the first episode another couple was told outright that they'd failed, and there was no egotistical tantrum from them.

The whole display was disgusting, and it was really low class to tell her to take her baby out of there like he was just some piece of trash. They spent all that time with him and didn't even have the grace to say good-bye.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Ditto Jodied and Curly!

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Sunday, July 13, 2008 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Curly...I really hate it when you're disagreeing with someone and they talk over you to drown you out, and it turns into a shouting match. You either have to let them shout and take their abuse, or lower yourself to their level and yell back to be heard. Very immature.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Monday, July 14, 2008 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
Except the mom didn't just say, "You should've..." The mom said, you didn't do a good job. For all the talk of how to be constructive in handling children, the mother did exactly what everyone here is saying you shouldn't do with a child. That you should phrase it in a positive fashion. No, that doesn't excuse the behavior of Sasha but the mom did just what Sasha did and started out telling her she did bad. That's not how we talk to children if we want to encourage them to do better and help them learn.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, July 14, 2008 - 7:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
BUT that mom was not the teen's mom! That is the diff and a huge diff at that!!!

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Monday, July 14, 2008 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
And these teenagers want to prove that they're mature enough to have children...so nobody can play the immature teen card!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, July 14, 2008 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
These teenagers are not children. They're not mature adults yet, but they're at the time in life when they need honesty to prepare them for the adult world. They're old enough to be working, and if they perform badly on the job their bosses aren't going to sugar-coat that feedback with a positive spin to encourage their self esteem. They'll tell them they did it wrong and they'll tell them what they should've done.

Some of these teenagers were at the point where they believed they were ready for their adult lives. The whole point of this is to show them what that will feel like. In this case these two performed badly and were told so. They weren't told damaging things like "You're both morons. You can't do anything right. You're never going to be good parents." They were simply told they didn't do well. That's just stating the obvious. The problem is that what they were told wasn't what they heard. They probably felt stupid because they couldn't figure out what to do, so when the mom tried to talk they heard "You're dumb people." I suspect it wouldn't have mattered what the mom said.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, July 15, 2008 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
They weren't told damaging things like "You're both morons. You can't do anything right. You're never going to be good parents." They were simply told they didn't do well. That's just stating the obvious.

EXACTLY!!!!! Great points Curly!!!

Efilon
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09-20-2005

Wednesday, July 16, 2008 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Efilon a private message Print Post    
Sasha showed tremendous patience with the baby and finally got him to sleep that first day. She was able to see that the baby was more comfortable with her bf. She made the mature decision to go to work and let him stay home with the baby. Also, I can understand her removing him from the restaurant when he was screaming. It bothers me too when a child is screaming in a restaurant or grocery store and the parent just lets it go on and on.
I didn't let my children do that. Not even when they were 2. We've left places more than once because a child had a meltdown. I also think that there was NO calming that child down when he was tired. And she didn't yell at him or shake him. She just said he was acting like a baby.

I think that the mother said that if they laid down with him he would go right to sleep. If he is so attached to Mom that she has to lie down with him to get him to go to sleep, she should never have put him through this. My children certainly didn't need me to lie down with them in order for them to go to sleep when they were almost 2 or even younger. Mom seemed pretty gleeful as she watched them try to soothe him that first day. It looked to me like the mother was assuring herself that SHE was all the baby really needed. If there was something she thought Sasha should have tried, she should have intervened right away like other parents did.

I think the mother was in the wrong here. She approached the review all wrong and should have realized that Sasha was exhausted after 3 days of trying to take care of her child. Giving only negative statements with no compliments for the things Sasha did right was entirely too much. Also, the boyfriend was not trying to keep Sasha from physically attacking the mom, he was just trying to get her outside to diffuse the tension.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, July 17, 2008 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Wow those 3 boys were all over the map and I'm sorry but had I would never take of kids that brought over an iguana. (I would of died) lol

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 9:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
Well Sasha was much improved this show, but she got a nice girl. I wonder how she would have fared with the two little girls, especially the older one. I still think she crossed the line in the other show, and I don't think Luke's mom was inappropriate at all. I also don't remember her saying that Sasha had to lay down with Luke for him to go to sleep. I wouldn't agree with that, either.

Jordan was pushing Sasha out the door as she was lunging (whether to attack the mom or to keep screaming at her - it was ridiculous), and Jordan told her to take her kid and just leave.

I've noticed that the couples who had a really hard time in one round get really quiet kids the next round - anyone notice that? Like Alicea had a hard time with the baby, and next got the really cute and precocious toddler who was comforting her in her homesickness. And then Sasha got the nice quiet little girl after having Luke. I wonder if that was just a coincidence, or something they did on purpose.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yep, Sasha made that last show so uncomfortable that I almost didn't even watch this week. She did do better, but still... I don't think she could ever redeem herself in my eyes. SHe is so lucky to have such a sweetie like Jordan to calm her down and be there for her. He seems wonderful (even though he was a jerk to Luke's mom).

Daton: like a lot
Morgan: like but she is so immature. potential is there, but buried deep.
Sasha: don't like at all anymore
Jordan: mostly a sweetie
Kelly: slowly liking better, but scenes from next week look scary (very immature with the pregancy suit)
Austin: liked a lot, but man, was he really crying when Kelly wanted to go for a walk with her friend?? Slowly unliking more...
Kelsey: needs a major boob reduction! Kinda like.
Ryan: kinda like
Alicea: liking better (still has a ways to go as she was soooo bad with the baby
Cory: like quite a lot

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, July 18, 2008 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Anyone notice how the couples look like each other? (Maybe not J/S so much, but the rest do a lot.) Daton/Morgan and Kelsey/Sean especially look very much alike.

Anniem
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05-21-2006

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Anniem a private message Print Post    
Wow, no comments about the teens! I was amazed at the mom that thought her son was perfectly normal. I think the teen parents got it absolutely right. He was remarkably disrespecful. Mom is going to have big problems as he gets older.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Did not watch it yet. Only caught about 4 minutes when Kelly was slammin' Austin. I hope they do break up.

Cynny
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06-21-2001

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cynny a private message Print Post    
Anniem, I agree that the teen parents got it right. Alicia has surprised me so much since that first week with the baby. I loved the look on the mom's face when he started mouthing off to her right after she told the teens that didn't know anything.

I was surprised that Morgan stayed and kept her commitment. And then she apologized to her mom. Hopefully, she will experience real growth from all of this. We all have to start somewhere.

Love this show.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
That's something I really can't stand about some parents. Even though their kid did something rude or obnoxious right in front of them, they'll continue to defend them and say there's no problem.

I can't believe how some of these couples talk to each other. Like Daton to Morgan, and Kelly to Austin.

I would have liked to see how Sasha would have reacted with a teenager like the one Alicea got.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, July 24, 2008 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I don't understand why Alicia was in Morgan's house laughing maniacally as Morgan dragged her "son" out of bed. Shouldn't she have been dealing with her own kid? He was part of it all, too. She just seemed to find the whole thing hysterical. She also took way too much pleasure in judging the boy's mother.

I think skateboard boy did Morgan a favor by leaving. He was terrible to her. All he ever wanted to do was go off and play on his skateboard, and then he'd get mad at her. Running her down in front of everyone else was way over the line. I think he just didn't want to be tied down to anyone, and tried to blame his feelings on her. The boy they were supposed to be taking care of seemed more mature than he did.

I felt sorry for the boy with the long black hair. He had just gone through a divorce with his parents, and that big-mouthed girl put him through that all over again. I hope that boyfriend of hers listens to his head and ditches her. If she's tired of him now, there's no point in dragging it out.

I can't believe they're going to have these kids taking care of the elderly. What for? That's something they shouldn't have to deal with until they're much older, and it has nothing to do with the decision to have children.

Wargod
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07-16-2001

Friday, July 25, 2008 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wargod a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen this show, but do read the thread, cuz I read most the board, lol.

I just wanted to comment though on the kids taking care of the elderly. I'm 35 and caring for an elderly great aunt and many people my age are caring for aging relatives along with their own children. Taking care of an aging relative is something to consider when deciding to have children because it's becoming more and more common. I never gave much thought before I had kids or even when they were younger to the fact that one day I'd be sitting in a drs office with my aunt while my kids school would be calling because they were sick and needed to be picked up or planning how to get her dinner to her when the kids have some activity or school thing going on.

I can't say it's something all my friends are going through, but it is an issue now taking care of young children and elderly relatives and something more of us are finding ourselves doing.