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Supergranny
Member
02-03-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:43 pm
This was the best contest of all with the puppies. I laughed and clapped as if I was there in person. Of course puppies are one of my favorite things!
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 5:44 pm
Okay....I"m gonna go there. The show was just over here. The final challenge was perfect for a herding dog. My Eli couldn't do many tricks, but I can guarantee you that he would have met that objective. The two that did well...galaxy, pointer and boarder collie.....and then there's Leroy.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 6:11 pm
I taped the wrong channel. How can I watch tonight's episode on line? Thank you.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 6:50 pm
Doc, go to http://www.cbs.com/primetime/greatest_american_dog/. You may have to wait until tomorrow until they have the episode uploaded (right now it's still the Salvador Doggy show there), but you should be able to watch it there.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 7:07 pm
Thank you Costa. I will do that.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 8:23 pm
The Border Collie mix won the herding contest. What a surprise. LOL--we got to talking about our Abby who herded any dogs or kids who came on our property. The dogs would always get this strange look on their faces, like, oh, I'm trapped. I'm really enjoying this show, though.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 8:48 pm
It was a great show. Sad for Star and Bill. Loved the puppies! What on earth will they do with that elephant next week besides scare the doggies?
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 8:56 pm
Did Star and Bill go home? That is so sad.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:02 pm
No. The competition was sad for them is what I meant.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:04 pm
What happened, I missed it and who went home?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:04 pm
No! They were bottom three. Beth Joy and Bella Starlet went home. Frankly that was a pretty skewed type of test, geared toward herding dogs and a herding dog won. But certainly some of the others did pretty well too. I'm glad the two judges made amends.. that one judge is SO "right" all the time and no matter what "current thought" is, that certainly doesn't speak for all dog trainers or people who work with dogs.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:05 pm
Good, I'm glad they are still there!
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:08 pm
Kookliebird, I am sorry. Since you did not see the show, Star did not perform well in the competition. She did not like the puppies and Bill really pushed her and the judges commented on how hard he pushed Star. I think the judges have been watching the other shows where the judges fight. lol
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:31 pm
I'm going to try to see it online tomorrow. I am so bummed that I missed it. Right now, it's one of my favorite shows. Glad to see Bella Star and BJ go home. They should have gone awhile back.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:33 pm
Good because there is more to the show. We did not tell you about the Golden Bone portion.
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Sabbatia
Member
08-15-2005
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 9:48 pm
I didn't like the argument between the two judges, but I've had that same one before many times. The ONLY way to train a shiba is through positive reinforcement. If you scold or punish one, it makes it worse. It would just help if mine were food motivated LOL.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, August 20, 2008 - 10:47 pm
I was so worried for Bill and Star. I have a feeling if they hadn't already shown a great relationship in prior tasks, it would have been them to go home. Notice Andre was called out for a slight nip. Star flat out went after one of the puppies in a no-nonsense "leave me the flack alone" message. Unless it was edited, the judges didn't say a thing about that. Hopefully Bill realized he might have gotten caught up in the heat of competition, and shouldn't have pushed Star so hard. I wonder though, what would the judges have said if, when Star did her "I'm done" message, if Bill had said, "that's it. I'm not gonna stress her out any more. We're done." Would the judges have pinged him for it, or praised him? At any rate, I'm glad they're still around. I want them for the win. And I'm so glad BJ and BS finally went home. She can now go back to dressing her up in those ridiculous clothes.
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Riviere
Member
09-09-2000
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 3:21 am
Exactly, Whoami. IF Bill quit the challenge since he knew Star didn't like puppies, then he's a quitter. To finish, he was being too pushy? I guess naturally the 'herding' bred Galaxy and Leroy obey voices and did exactly what their training showed to win. The small breeds have a disadvantage on this stupid show...
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 6:23 am
I am SOOO glad Beth Joy and Bella Starlet went home. I'm really over her treating that dog as a human child. While it's all well and good to treat our four legged friends as children, you have to remember that they ARE four legged and ARE animals. And I don't think Beth Joy ever got that. I'm glad Bill and Star are still there. From the previews, it did seem as if Star was struggling. I haven't watched the show yet, but those two are my favorite. While I love all the dogs, except maybe that Maltese, I don't love all the humans! What I love about Bill and Star is their relationship (JD and Travis have good relationships with their dogs, too, but they seem to be more about having fun and doing tricks -- not that there's anything wrong with that). With Bill and Star, you see real devotion and a desire to please. Like one would take a bullet for the other, y'know?
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:15 am
I sorta believe the fight with the judges was real.It looked like the trainer woman was crying -at least teary-eyed. Bill is such a softy-he gets me all weepy almost every episode.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 8:44 am
I thought the puppy challenge was so skewed but I'm glad with the outcome, so there ya go. I've been watching the show online I keep forgetting to set my DVR. Last night after dinner around 7:30 central time I turned the TV on and there is was. I missed the first half hour but finally DVR's it. I'll watch the beginning on line again. I adore this show. Any news about a second season? I STILL miss Tillman.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 9:27 am
I felt so sorry for Star. A lot of older dogs want to be left alone by pups. I think the pups stressed her out more than the maze. It was just a bad idea to introduce the pups. Star wasn't the only one they stressed out.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:09 pm
Puzzled, me too about feeling sorry for Star. My beloved Rusty (rip) as he got a bit older wanted NOTHING to do with puppies. My siblings would bring their puppies over to meet us and Rusty stayed away/hid and even was a bit pissy toward them.
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Lakecat
Member
10-01-2006
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 12:29 pm
In addition to not wanting to be bothered by the puppies,I think part of Stars problem was she was just plain tuckered out.When she was running, her tounge was hanging out,she was breathing hard and then she just laid down.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, August 21, 2008 - 1:55 pm
I was more worried about Bella Starlet trying to bite people and dogs this episode. She WAS crying last week while training and Beth Joy kind of got a "pass" from the judges, but frankly, she hides behind BS being a rescue and assuming she was badly abused and setting herself up as the angel rescuer.. and I'm sure she loves the dog, but if the dog is fear biting or aggressive, maybe, just maybe, she wasn't such a great candidate to come on the show and be forced into very stressful situations? Not to mention being dressed up. Anyway, time for them to go and she also messed up the dog bone comp badly, as did Beth Joy.. I cannot fathom why she would have not put herself in position to work the dogs herself. Star was clearly stressed.. when she flopped on her side she was saying time out.. but of course the very nature of the competition made Bill want them to "do well" but I think he listened to the critcism and was respectful and that also contributed to keeping him there. Sabbatia.. you have a Shiba! I have met one that friends of friends had and what a NEAT and handsome little dog!! The thing is, breeds differ so much and in older, really popular/common breeds, there can be vast differences in training techniques that best suit a dog and you have to know the dog. Most of my labs were awfully willing to please, but there came a time when it was good to let them know that they really DO need to comply (of course that is important in hunting situations or field work, but in everyday life, if you can count on a dog to take a "down stay" at a distance and then really STAY, it can be a lifesaver if there is danger between handler and dog. But some labs are really really soft and you have to be total cheerleader with them (well they all have to get that part) and of course for ring training, food bait works for many, but some get way TOO excited and won't stay still-ish in the ring.
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