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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 3:42 pm
???? I think it ought to be alright to talk about what they did, keeping track of who spoke Spanish or who made money towards the Pot shan't be spoilish or even speculating. Those are facts. And as a person with a few brain cells, I gave my reactive thoughts, that's all. No clue, no wild speculations. This is why I kept asking where should I put these thoughts. I don't even want to know the 128394 rjhfb sej(These are made believe) type of clues! I don't even want to be in the thread with clues. So that means I will have no threads to be in???? I just wanted to talk about the show! This is enough to make a person want to take the ball and go home. #@#@#@ I just posted the above after I went back to discuss some more and realized I was wrong again. Unfortunately, again, I posted those thoughts in the wrong place. My bad. But I have no clue how to behave in this area any more ....
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 4:07 pm
I see that's taken care of. Thank you, Mods. Although I won't even mind if that whole post was deleted. ... I understand the majority rules. I would have to take my note book out to tally the info gathered since it won't be easy to locate who did what in which task during which episode.... But, seriously, I myself don't even want to know the strange clues, I don't want to text any one to get those sequence either. I just want to pretend that I was a player and play along with whatever clues they air in the show. And, in this show, play along means speculating to me. I certainly believe it's possible to speculate without knowing those funky, meaningless so-called Clues?? I don't see a thread to fit myself in. I don't want to see the ABAba whatever anymore, and I like to be able to share and pick up from other posters' thoughts after viewing. Which thread am I allowed to do that?? ???
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 4:13 pm
Lexie-girl: I happen to believe that, if there are show threads, the Westies will come! But, honestly, it doesn't bother me to follow the majority.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 5:04 pm
Chy, it seems to me that you would fit into the "Gen Discussion, Clues and Speculation" thread as most of the comments there are about speculation, there are only a few which contain things from outside sources (like the text clues) and we never know what they actually mean, we just toss out ideas! You could just skip over the posts with the weird phrases and enjoy the rest!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 6:53 pm
For what it's worth, I'd be happy if these threads could just be renamed to be a little less confusing. I suggested this elsewhere, but you could keep it all down to just a few threads if the names are clear. Here's what I'd do: I'd keep the one called "Clues (No Discussion)" just for posting the clues. Any clues. Anything that might be a clue, behavioral or otherwise. If it's a possible clue, it's fair game. Just no chatting about it. Then have another thread, just for discussing the clues. I might call it "The Corbin Bernsen Thread," in honor of the man who raised clue over-analysis to an art form. But you could just name it "Clue Discussion" or "In-Depth Analyis" to avoid further confusion. Then have a third thread called "Discuss the Episodes." The General Discussion thread might be okay for that, but the title "General Discussion" could also include people wanting to talk about how they feel about the host, the time slot, the ratings, etc. rather than what actually happened on the show. The "Discuss the Episodes" thread would include speculation about behavior or clues but only if they were part of the episode. Anything that happens on the show would be fair game for discussion, but if you want to have a lengthy discussion about a particular clue it would be best to save it for the aforementioned clue analysis thread. Once you have a place to keep track of clues, a place to discuss the clues, a place to discuss the episodes, and a general discussion area for anything else, what more would you need? Four threads with distinct names and no confusion. Oh, and the already existing spoiler thread would make five threads. Still a reasonable number. Anyway, that's my .
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 7:11 pm
Oh, I forgot to add that I'm another one who doesn't understand the point of a "no speculation" rule for a show like this. That's kind of the point of the show, no?
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 7:19 pm
I don't even want to know the 128394 rjhfb sej(These are made believe) type of clues! I don't even want to be in the thread with clues. I just don't get it. What is seen or not in the show by any posters here is only speculation that it may or may not be a clue as to who the mole is. Everything posted is speculation if it's not in the Spoiler thread. No one knows if what is done or not by the mole or other contestants or something done as part of production of the show is a clue or not. It's all speculation on the viewers' part.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 8:39 pm
I like CurlQ's idea. I think what Chy and I are trying to avoid is the Corbin Bernson like analysis. I don't really want to hear the speculation of people are are texting clues and breaking down the episodes frame by frame. I don't want the indepth analysis. I want to talk about the show with average joe people who just watch the hour and then comment.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 8:45 pm
There's also another thing to consider. When clues are being handed to you at different websites and stuff, and then you're supposed to figure out what they mean it's a bit different from just guessing at what might be a clue. If someone here succeeds at cracking these codes that are being given out, then we'll know who the Mole is because the clues were given out by the show. Then it would be more like getting an actual spoiler.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 8:59 pm
And that's what I'm afraid I'm going to read in the clues threads and that would really ruin the season for me.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 9:03 pm
Until the mole is revealed on the last show, it's all just speculation.
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 9:04 pm
I liked it when there was just one thread.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 9:32 pm
In season 2 the code was cracked and it was posted prior to the season finale who the mole was and it was right, based on clues, not based on speculation around behavior. That's what I'd like to avoid this season. And if that means I just have to avoid mole threads altogether, I can do that.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Wednesday, June 18, 2008 - 10:32 pm
We're not total clue geeks in the main discussion thread you know! People are posting possible clues there, and the ones ABC gives out on their website, but it's all speculation and no one knows what they mean. That one possible clue that upset people in the first episode was blown out of the water last episode during the luge challenge when the same "clue" pointed elsewhere. And this is tvch, people are considerate, I would guess if anyone did work out a clue in such a way that it left no doubt who the mole was they would put the answer in a spoiler box, even though it kind of isn't a spoiler.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:06 am
Brenda, I'd forgotten about Corbin Bernson! lol! I thought he was funny! Not actually funny, but in a way that was just so amusing to me! (I also relate because I am just like that, I just don't post about it much!)
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:07 am
I already stated my opinion once before but now that there's a whole thread just for this, I'll state it again. The WHOLE POINT of The Mole is speculating who the mole might be. That is why they have a quiz at the end about WHO the mole is, and that's why people are executed, because they couldn't figure out who the mole was. It's not anything like Survivor or Lost or anything else in the world, it's a show where you try to find out who the mole is. There is no other reason to be on the show, or to watch the show, than to determine who is the mole. And they repeat Who is the Mole in the intro to every show. Therefore, I believe there should be one dang thread, where we all talk about who is the mole. I personally don't differ between speculation, clues, and spoilers because the SHOW doesn't either - they text us clues, they put clues in the editing, they ENCOURAGE us to slow down our DVRs and look at clues, they have a website for it. It's all part and parcel of the show. Some people are better at figuring things out, so I like to read what they have to say. No one knows for sure who is the Mole until the end when they come out the door or whatever, so there are no spoilers. Honestly I don't think you can watch THIS show like a "regular Joe," because it's not a regular show. You can't just discuss what you saw, because the editors of the show have manipulated the show to make you see certain things. Which is the fun of it! What an awesome show! I love it and I don't want to have avoid talking about anything anywhere for certain people!
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:16 am
I have to say THIS thread is my favorite MOLE thread. *L* The others make my head spin.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:49 am
Madelane, I agree to a point. There is little point in talking about the show if you can't speculate. Which is why I wanted the "no clues" thread to have speculation. But I don't agree that all of us are texting clues and slowing down the DVR. I don't do that, I don't want to hear about that, I don't want to talk about that. I don't have the time or energy for that. So, that's why I don't go into that thread. And yes, season 2 did get spoiled. The Mole was known before the show ended. there was little doubt. If half way through the season all clues keep pointing at the same person, and then that person is the mole, I think that was spoiled. Now, I'm hoping the clues they are giving you this year weren't so obvious as they were season 2 because it seems like they just gave it away. Heck, this show may get cancelled and the lack of thread for me to discuss it may become a non-issue. LOL.
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:53 am
Excellent post Madalane and ITA!
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 9:01 am
Exactly, Madelane! The Mole was known before the show ended. there was little doubt. Not for certain. "The Mole was know before the show ended" does not equate with "there was little doubt". Guessing / figuring it out is the game.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 9:13 am
No, Color, in season two the mole was known before the season ended because ABC was babying us with stupid clues, and one said "the mole is <XXXX>" (just in case anyone hasn't watched that season). But that wasn't the viewers' fault, it wasn't tvch's, it was abc's. And it seems like this year they're thankfully not doing that (I'm sure I wasn't the only one who complained to them), and no one has any idea who the mole is. I agree with Madelane on her view about the Mole experience, and once again I want to reiterate that the general discussion thread is almost all about mad speculation that probably will mean absolutely nothing in the end. But each to their own.
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:53 am
IMO this is a show about speculation and the whole fun of it for me is looking for possible clues. IMO the only official clues are the the texted ones so until I am told otherwise I will continue to just post in one thread 
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 6:19 pm
I'm going to ask for a folder for the Monday night show - where anyone who can will post the "transcript" and then we can discuss the show as we see it - BUT - not bring any theories, or notes from any other threads.... just my thoughts....
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 6:41 pm
Aaack Reader, you are proposing another new thread? hehe
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Chy
Member
07-19-2003
| Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 7:06 pm
C&P from Curly: Once you have a place to keep track of clues, a place to discuss the clues, a place to discuss the episodes, and a general discussion area for anything else, what more would you need? Four threads with distinct names and no confusion. Oh, and the already existing spoiler thread would make five threads. Still a reasonable number.} @#@#@##@ Something like that could work?? I just want a place to discuss what I saw on the show that cause me to go: Hmmmmmmm ... I don't want to see the clues from the Post-Production. I want raw clues which they choose to put on the show ITSELF, which is the way an average viewer like myself would enjoy the show. <<I don't even own a cell phone. I recent shows asking me to text this or that. I intend to resist texting in my life as long as possible.>> I don't know what the thread should be called. Just please tell me where I could talk about the show! At the moment I don't know where to post without going against the majority's wishes or against my own rules(No clues, specially clues from slo-mo or Texting. p..., p..... p.....!) 
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