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Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Woohoo! I'm not spoiled after all! Yay! I was totally convinced that stupid Mole journal was pointing to her. And then when she mentioned Pisco Sours... {Dancing in my chair}

I'm leaning back toward Kristen or Craig now.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
chy - I am so confused - you have a good insight - so some might think you are giving it away -

all our "speculation" clues in the secret areas pointed to Victoria as the Mole - she went over Victoria falls, her helmet had the green mole print on it - and yet she was GONE!!

I told y'all i have no clue!! I so respect everyone's feelings...

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Reader, what do you mean by:
chy - I am so confused - you have a good insight - so some might think you are giving it away -
Where?

I'm suspecting Craig now as well. He had a long time separated from the whole gang!

It was "Midas Rush" btw.
Sorry, I didn't know what I was talking about.

Paul & Nic both suspected Vic to be the Mole.
Mark is so bitter about Craig's having his journal, I chuckled.
Alex suspected Nicole.
But again, I have to remind myself that Mole also do confessions ...

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I mean Chy even tho you are "speculating" on what you are seeing, I'm thinking ' You are so smart"

and I am so confused on where to post what!!

is this "producer clues?" or is this "no speculation clues?"

and mostly, I'm thinking, why did I even bother...

it truly just doesnt matter... darned if I do, darned if I dont.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Again, I have to laugh at myself really hard!
Seven left, I'm still going "Craig, no, Clay, no maybe Kristen. Don't forget Alex!"

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Didn't Victoria and Alex speculate that Craig might be the Mole? Maybe they both answered the quiz with him in mind, scored the same and she was the slowest.

If Paul and Nicole were both looking at Victoria, then the fact that neither of them went home might suggest the Mole was on Victoria's team, wore the same color pants, etc. That points me toward Kristen.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
so are show spoilers in this thread or the other, or, as tonight both? show spoilers as in as the show is going on ... smh ...

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I think this is a good place to post the show summaries, since the other thread is about the producer clues. I think it's cool that two people posted because what one person might miss the other will pick up on.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
LT, I don't know about the other thread. This is the only thread I post in. The rules/directions on top says The East Coast show discussion can also take place in this thread..

We will get it together one of these days! :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Curly, I re-winded to the point when they took the quiz.
Vic fessed about Clay!
Paul suspected Vic.
Kris was sorry she let Clay have the exemption.
Alex thought Nic's tick in the throat was interesting.
Mark just talk about Criag having unfair advantage keeping his journal.

Maybe you heard them talk about Craig during other part of the show? I'll have to check on the show on line tomorrow.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Mole Quiz

Question 1: Is the Mole?
Male
Female

Question 2: In the "Midas Rush" mission, what color pants was The Mole wearing?
Blue
Black

Question 3: In "Midas Rush," did The Mole's team decide who received an exemption?
Yes
No

Question 4: How many gold bars did The Mole's team carry to the finish in "Midas Rush"?
23
24

Question 5: At the end of "Midas Rush," from Jon's perspective, where was The Mole standing (from l to r)?
First
Second
Third
Fourth
Fifth
Sixth
Seventh
Eighth

Question 6: To date, has The Mole received an exemption?
Yes
No

Question 7: During the "Who Said That" mission, was The Mole's answer disqualified?
Yes
No

Question 8: Was The Mole's journal burnt?
Yes
No

Question 9: During "Who Said That," did The Mole confess to writing a comment about another player?
Yes
No

Question 10: Who is the Mole?
Alex
Clay
Craig
Kristen
Mark
Nicole
Paul
Victoria

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Who's watching Jesus of Siberia?
Ta for now!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Chy, I can't get access to the DVR just now but I will in a while. I thought I remembered a conversation with Alex and Victoria where she told him Craig's troubles would be a good cover for the Mole. They also talked about how coalitions would be over by final 5.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That was fantastic East Coast show discussion everyone! I hope some West Coast fans are able to take a quick look at it.

I am still astonished that Victoria is not the Mole. I was pretty much resigned to that and the fact that she isn't makes the show even more interesting.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL my 2 preshow pics were totally wrong!!! I love it though!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 8:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Reader, don't be confused! We will just gather here during show night from now on!

Geez, the whole page is full of you posts, the page before this. I will read yours and see what I missed. A twitch of the face or a raise of an eye brow? Since there's a half wall between PC and TV here, I can only type or only watch, :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Some where they said Alex wrote I Am the Mole in his Journal.
Did he do that for Bobby's benefit couple epies ago, or just now? It was him who left the journal in Bobby's room and bragged about it, right?
Supposedly, all the players know that at one point, host would ask them to trade/swap journals at random. Alex could have written that to confuse others should the opportunity rises.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Upon further review, it was Kristen that Victoria was talking to when suspecting Craig was the mole. She later voiced suspicion about Clay also.

The editing is tricky, I think. I suspect that they just asked them to go through each contestant and answer if that person could be the Mole and why. Then they just showed us their answers to "Could Victoria be the Mole?" Too many of them voiced a reason for Victoria being the Mole, as if they were just trying to trick us with comments taken out of context. I guess what they say to each other may be more relevant than what they say in their interviews and voiceovers.

For what it's worth, if any of them had been guessing Victoria was the Mole, then Clay, Kristen and Nicole would've had the most quiz answers in common with her. In other words, if one of those three is the Mole, then a person guessing Victoria would've gotten 5 out of 10 answers correct (if I have my answers right). If the Mole is Craig, Alex, or Paul they would've gotten 3 out of 10 correct by guessing Victoria, and if it's Mark they would've only gotten 2.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Oh, wait. There's one other thing. Nicole said at the beginning that she had been guessing Bobby and would now have to start over. So maybe the Mole had answers in common with Bobby in the episode 3 quiz. That would point back to Craig since they were in the same group for the underwear mission, and they both were penalized for talking in the luge mission.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Monday, June 23, 2008 - 11:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Now I'm confused! I don't think I can say what I want to say there! Are we meant to split out the cluey parts of our posts to here and post the rest there?

When Victoria said that pisco sours comment I was SURE she was the mole, because of Jon's comment from a few episodes ago. Particularly after that first episode clue pointing to her. I'm so excited that she was eliminated as I'd kind of settled on her and that did spoil it a little bit.

Clay forcing others to give him the exemption was a little suspicious but I'm not sure the mole needs to do that, because someone will go home, regardless of whether any one person has the exemption. Clay is a lawyer, so I guess he's used to arguing and getting his way. Kristen so deserved that.

I also thought the guys in general were full of themselves during that challenge - they only carried 11(?) pounds more than the team with three girls, yet they made such a big deal over it.

To my mind there's absolutely no way Mark can be the mole after tonight. I don't think Kristen can be because she works so hard. I'm down to Alex and Clay. I kind of like Alex at the moment.

Houstonndirish
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03-23-2006

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 6:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Houstonndirish a private message Print Post    
OOOhhhhh good points Curlyq!

Does anyone think Mark could be protesting just a little too much? I would think it could be a great strategy to act like you're playing all out. Also, he was gone from the group a bit when he walked away after the journals were burned. I don't think he's on anyone's radar right now.

Hope this is posted in the right place. I am soooo confused about where to post. :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Curly, I said that about Nicole last night also:
<C&P from my own post>

Okay, unless Nic was the Mole, she was on one thing right, that the Mole is a male.

I'll have to do a compare between Bobby and other males form last epi., since Nic said she had Bobby picked as Mole and she's still there.


I'm glad you've look through the Quiz #3 and made such deduction! Thank you!

Again, unless Nicole is the Mole and were giving false confessions, Craig is on top of my list now!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
I start seeing signs that maybe Clay is not the Mole after all. The Mole would not have wanted that exemption so badly, there were ways to show you wanted the exemption but in the end let one of the girls have it.
So, after the underwear challenge where I started my doubts, now this 'must have' exemption is throwing me off... grrrr....

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Kitt & Houston..irish, welcome! This is the right place to discuss what we saw on the show and speculate from every thing they say, act, dressed themselves, argue about, boast about ...

Isn't that interesting the two of you see it totally different! I sort of pushed Mark to the less suspicious side right now since he looked positively devastated when his journal was burned. But, wow, on top of his other crying fit, .... You do have a point, Houston...., that Mark could be protesting just a little too much!

Kitt, I agree with your thoughts on Clay also. I know Clay is a popular suspect, but there's something there that I just don't see him as a devious Mole. I think he just could be a quiet person. He's older and he's used to being able to focus and study -- passing Bar exam says a lot in my book. So all the "under the radar" act could be just him not providing any materials for them to use.
If he turned out to be the Mole, then my hat's off for hum!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Wait, what's with Quiz #4?

Question 4: How many gold bars did The Mole's team carry to the finish in "Midas Rush"?
23
24


I thought the team with all boys carried 38 bars and the team w/ 3 girls carried 23.
Ah, I forgot some were dropped. The all guys team carried 34! That's still not 24? I guess it's a misprint.