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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Claire (though I don't know the details).

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Bottom two were Claire and Lauren. Basically, it was down to "do we pick the girl who has only one note in photos" or "do we pick the girl who has only one note in front of us". They said Claire needed to have different looks. Although, when they did the flashback of her shots, she did have some really great edgy shots, so I dunno what they were thinking.

Lauren, while I think she's taken really great shots, will never be able to learn how to walk in the short amount of time they have. That's something that's ingrained in you (the hunched shoulder thing). I remember my mother AND my grandmother smacking my butt and telling me to stand up straight with my head held high (I think I used to try to slouch to hide my 5'10" height at age 12!).

Lakecat
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10-01-2006

Thursday, April 03, 2008 - 2:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lakecat a private message Print Post    
I hear ya Costacat.Ive been 6' since 7th grade.
I laughed at how one of the "Go Sees" compared Lauren to Frankenstien.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

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You know I'm crying that I haven't watched this show yet this season. As everyone probably knows, I love photography and I'm quite knowledgeable about it. I still shake my head over some of the judge's decisions and reasoning but I love the show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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You'd have loved this week's photo shoot then. Very creative. The girls were shot from below. They were on a plexiglass platform with water and were told to lay down and MOVE!

Madelane
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08-20-2001

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Yes I recognized Shoshanna (Lonstein). I remember it was HUGE news when they were dating, and I remember she wanted to be a designer. Years after that, I ended up buying a strapless dress of hers that I loved because it was made for real women with real boobs. I couldn't believe I was actually wearing a "Shoshanna" after all the hullabaloo. Glad to see she's still into all sizes. By the way, I wear a 10 or 12 and I do consider myself a little plus-sized, particularly compared to a model!

Also I saw Whitney at the mall the other day. That's all there was to it, no story there, just that everyone was saying "It's Whitney!" She is from here. Beautiful!

Catfat
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02-27-2002

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I don't think it was funny when they were calling Lauren Frankenstein. Imagine how that will make her feel when she sees this episode. It is painfully obvious she has no self-esteem anyway, you can see it in every fiber of her being.
What a cruel thing to say and doubley cruel to put it on the show.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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More and more I think this show is getting more and more distasteful. I really don't think the "panel" wants to create America's Next Top Model. I think they want to create a show with lots of drama. I think they should keep their snarky comments to themselves. Yes, the modeling world is very harsh. But these girls are there to learn. How can you learn when you hear stuff like that every day? If Tyra was really interested in Lauren, she'd get Miss Jay to spend some one on one time with her, to help her learn to stand up straight. Once there, it's only a short walk to learning how to walk with good posture (no pun intended).

Catfat
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02-27-2002

Friday, April 04, 2008 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Catfat a private message Print Post    
I agree with everything you just said, Costacat.

Irismi
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02-22-2008

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Irismi a private message Print Post    
Costa, I agree with you completely. I dvr the show and everytime I watch it I am so uncomfortable. Tyra 'appears' to take some kind of joy in putting down the very same girls she selected for the show. I wish girls would stop trying out for the show, because for most of them, they are there to fill a role preconconceived by the staff for the show. We have the innocent hick girl from anytown, USA, the street smart urban chick, etc...This show isn't about modeling, has anyone seen Saleshia's commercials, they are terrible, bland, boring! WHo would hire that girl for real??? Especially to speak. Tyra is no longer objective (and isn't trying to be) and I can't support such a terrible program anymore. Bravo TV does reality better than anyone imho.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Saturday, April 05, 2008 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I don't have a problem with direct, honest feedback, even if it's harsh.

My problem is that on this show, it's obviously done to 1) make good drama and 2) showcase the "comedic" talents of the panel and/or, in Tyra's case, her "hosting" abilities. It's not about the models, it's about the panel. And some of their "jokes," to me, are ridiculous and sometimes border on intolerant.

I look at these women and yes, they are attractive, beautiful women, but not models. They are chosen for their stories, their personalities, to make good TV.

And, even if it makes for TV that's a little less glitzy and sparkly, I prefer shows like A Model Life (the one on TLC with Petra Nemcova) that showcase aspects of the real world of modeling, with girls/women who actually resemble models.

I've given up on this show, I think.

Nerovh
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06-12-2005

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I still kind of listen to the show, but I don't really sit and watch it closely like I used to. This show has gotten worse and worse, and after watching "Make Me a Supermodel", this show just seems to lack the class it could have had.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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I hope they continue with Make Me a Supermodel, cause that show outclasses this one by a mile!

Rvon
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12-11-2003

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I have watch ATNM every season but I think this season is the worst for viable contestants. Why or why do they continue to keep Lauren? That girl is so far out of her comfort zone. And why doesn't someone please give her some quality one-on-one lessons on how to walk as a model?

Marej
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09-20-2002

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The next episode is a "never before seen footage" show.

Aussiedeb
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07-05-2004

Monday, April 07, 2008 - 12:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aussiedeb a private message Print Post    
I can't seem to get into this series either.. I have watched all the others but after the one in which Jasssleeeeen won, it started to make me doubt their judgments.

I too had slouched over shoulders as I also was extremely tall at a young age and my mother always came up to my back and stuck a knuckle out and dug it in between my shoulder blades to make me stand straight. Now my 15 yo is only 5'3" and growing still, but my fathers sisters were not tall. I was 6' but due to back issues have now gone to 5'10", so I told my daughter that we will meet somewhere in the middle in years to come lol

I can't believe they think a size 10 or 12 is plus size.. what a load of bull crap.. to me that is normal and I am over that size these days.. what type of message is that sending young girls these days anyway..

The show has lost interest in me and my daughter.

ITA on how they cast the show.. you always can pick a pattern..

Catfat
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02-27-2002

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I think their "never before seen" footage shows are, obviously, a way of stretching a good thing without costing more money. They think.
In reality, it causes fans to lose whatever interest they still have left with this mundane show.
I have yet to see any of their girls make it big, and I'm not talking about little bit parts in obscure commercials.
Talk about life on the D list.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

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Eva seems to be doing well for herself and appears to be the most successful. Besides modeling, she's been in a couple of movies and some TV shows.

And although Yaya didn't win, she was runner up to Eva, she's been working quite a bit as well in movies, commercials, and lately I've seen her in catalogs. I just received a clothing catalog the other day in the mail with her on the cover.

But in terms of really big time or supermodels, I think you're right, at least not yet.

Catfat
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02-27-2002

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I haven't seen those things you mention, Ahnicka. But, then I am so clueless about what is popular right now. I read Vogue, Bazaar and Marie Clair, plus some British fashion publications, and keep waiting for ANTM girls to appear in those.

Irismi
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02-22-2008

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Irismi a private message Print Post    
Catfat,
Eva has done very well. She hosted a tv show last year for BET and she does a lot of print work. Most of them go back to doing whatever it was they were doing before the show. Many of the girls are made fun of or edited badly while they are there and I am sure most look back on it with regret. A few may succeed, but they had talent Before the show. I saw the nearly bald Bianca at one of the fashion shows for fashion week on TV not too long ago. I think the parents of these girls should tell them they are fulfilling a streotype for the most part...this show has lost its original appeal. Tyra does the exact opposite of what she preaches, imho of course. It has certainly shown me a different side to Tyra.

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Monday, April 14, 2008 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Catfat look for a Dr. Scholls commercial that has a very thin woman dancing in some shiny black pants that concludes her dance by jumping into a pair of heels with Dr. Scholls inserts in them. The commercial features her and no one else is in it.

It just started viewing, I saw it the other day. I was shocked to realize that was Yaya dancing around so professionally. I knew she was a dancer and has been in movies dancing but I think that was hip hop dancing in the movies. In the commercial it was more of a jazz dance or something. They have her hair straightened and down past her shoulders. She looks good, but I didn't realize how thin and muscular she is until this commercial and the clothing catalog.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

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They used to 'knock' yaya because she was a dancer.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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FWIW, any model who is over a size 4 is condidered plus size. It's the nature of the game. Designers tend to design size 2's. And I personally don't think size 10 or 12 is "normal."

I think some of the earlier winners/contestants had more street cred than the later seasons (Jassssleeeeen notwithstanding). I think Tyra has ruined this show for real potential models. Being on this show has turned into a joke. Kinda like the Barbizon School of Modeling was (is still?) a joke. You don't pay money for someone to make you into a model!!!

Sportygirl
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06-14-2005

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I opened up my mailbox last week and was unfortunately greeted by a picture of Jaslene on the cover of that week's issue of Time Out Chicago. Here is a link to the article about her: http://www.timeout.com/chicago/articles/shopping/28433/can-she-stay-on-top

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

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I thought they knocked Yaya for how they perceived her arrogance due to her education. I didn't know it was for her dancing, or maybe I just forgot or didn't perceive it that way. I can't fully recall.