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Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
I found this at the official site:


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The mole does not sabatoge every mission. That would be incredibly obvious. He was the only guy standing there behind them when he walked up. In my opinion, he would look like a loser if he just stood there while the girls were doing it -when he's a big guy and can step in. He did actually foil a few things. 1) He missed the bag in the waterfall 2) He didn't bring back ANY pigs 3) He was the one carrying the sign on the beach that had a note from the mole and he didn't contribute much of anything on bringing objects back -as smart as he is. 4) In the gondola mission....he's one that is lacking behind, trying to waste as much time as possible. So he's done some sabatoging....just descretely.




Also, remember the _E_E_E clue? I thought it could be 11 that we were all focused on, but it could have been a hangman clue and remember Craig was literally the hanged man in the first episode....

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Also from the official page:


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Here are all the missions Craig sabotaged...

1) Talking during the "Fruit of the Luge" mission was his biggest sabotage, as he lost $14,000. However, Alex/Nicole and Bobby/Clay also messed up. But since he 'found' everyone's clothes, he avoided fingers from being pointed at him.

2) Missing the money in the waterfall mission was sabotage. But since other people missed the money too, and due to Marcie's poor selection for the players, the sabotage went unnoticed.

3) He did sabotage the pigs mission. His team spent so much time in the one store as they kept looking at the antiques. The guy said he only had one it was already taken. Yet they still kept on looking, and in the end, they found no pigs. However, holding the slingshot took him off everyone's radar.

4) In the Crusoe mission, you kind of see him kicking sand, possibly over one of the five key items. (You can see this when Liz mentions sabotage in that mission during the quiz.) This sabotage was definitely unnoticed since the whole team messed up (Bobby not able to move, Paul stops putting sand in the hourglass and started to lie down, Mark picking blue jeans, etc.)

5) In the soccer mission, he seemed to fall behind when trying to get to the gondola. Liz and the other players were behind too and the team split up, so he wasn't blamed.

One final thing...
The last online clue was "s666 - LIAr." The "LIAr" could mean 'Ali,' who was bribed/executed or 'Liar,' for when Mark called Craig a liar. Any idea about the "s666" part? Maybe, '666' is for Satan and that's maybe what the 's' stands for. But is there any relation to Craig or the executed players?




Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Are these just comments people have made on the ABC forums, C'smom?

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Yes Kitt. Hope it's ok to cut and paste them here!!!

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
But you see, even if you are NOT the mole, you need to do some sabotaging so that you confuse the others, especially when you already have an idea of who the mole is you will have to create confusion for those other ones who could know and thus giving you a better chance.

Lake_gal
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06-09-2004

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lake_gal a private message Print Post    
Kathryn (Season One mole) said she was told by producers to help put some money in the pot. Both Stephen and Jim (the final 2 players) were working so hard to look like the mole that they were not putting money in the pot. And the show would be a failure if there was no money in the pot to win. So even the mole has to work to make money at times.

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
ITA Spunky.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Waaaay upthread I said on the first show journal no. 11 was shown. Craig was the 11th contestant introduced. Hmmmmm?

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
I like the way you think Color! Glad I am not the only one on the Craig bandwagon :-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, June 19, 2008 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't think it's Craig because I think the producers might feel that the mole might need to do something physical at some point, that Craig might not be able to do. Then again the producers set the tasks so they could easily work around his limitations (assuming he is slightly limited).

Does anyone have any guesses for the final three? I always think the quiet types are probably more observant, so I'm guessing a final four (can't do three!) of Kristen, Clay, Craig and Alex. Even though Alex isn't quiet he seems like he's studying.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 8:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
It's funny how we pick a person from the beginning and we observe that person more than we observe others and every show that person survives we are more convinced it's the Mole.
So far Clay is that person but pretty soon I may start seeing something that will throw off my theory and I'll scramble to observe others only to be more confused till the very last three. However, the more confused I am the happier I am because it's a good proof the Mole is smarter than me and I love some challenge...

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 9:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Clay, Craig, Kristen and Alex works for me Kitt! Final four means one of them is the mole so essentially you did make a final three hehe

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
I'm pretty sure it's Victoria and her overacting is not good. She has way too much screen time, in addition to all of the clues that point to her. In the epi where everyone caught the word clue and thought it was eleven, in the mole quiz, Victoria was letter K, which is 11th in the alphabet.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm leaning that way as well, Webchiq. The only thing I wonder about is that the Moles have mostly been women and she seems similar to the first Mole?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Victoria does look like the first mole, but then both the moles in the celebrity seasons were female supermodels, so they're not against type-casting.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 2:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
heh, heh, heh, isn't the entire show a producers clue? LMAO.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
:-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I've updated the "Just the Clues" thread with a summary of what we've discussed. There are lots of clues for Alex, Craig, Mark and Victoria. Kristen only has one clue!

Panda
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07-15-2005

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
as of now, I am picking Kristen as my winner!

I am going to look at the clues you posted now, Kitt, I have been away from the computer so I haven't even analyzed the show site.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Friday, June 20, 2008 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
as of now, I am picking Kristen as my winner!
I will check out the clues,I have been away from the computer and have not been around to peek at the show's site!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Have you all been looking at the Mole dossier over at the ABC site? I just clicked on it against my better judgment and noticed some clues that I don't think are posted in the just-the-clues thread. I didn't want to post them myself because to me they seem to be giving too much away and I didn't want to spoil things.

There's a boarding pass with a city on it that kind of makes it obvious, and another clue tells which position the Mole was in during the luge challenge. I'm hoping I'm wrong and its all just intentional misdirection, but it sure seems to point to one person. There are other clues as well that went over my head because I missed episode 2. Maybe someone else who wouldn't mind being spoiled can take a look at it and see if it's just red herrings and not the obvious clues I took them to be. I'm sure hoping I'm wrong.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Maybe we should ask Jimmer to make another thread for producer clues that give too much away!

I don't want to go there if they're as obvious as you say. It'll take all the fun away!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I agree that it's pretty frustrating if they make it too obvious. I think they have some pretty sophisticated viewers who don't need or want to be spoon-fed clues.

If you think the clues are verging on being totally obvious, you would always be welcome to post them in the spoiler thread as obvious clues.

Charlottesmom
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01-03-2008

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 6:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Charlottesmom a private message Print Post    
Shame on you Kitt, imagine asking Jimmer to make ANOTHER thread! LMAO only folks who visit The Mole area of TVCH would find this funny!



Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, June 21, 2008 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL Kitt!!! this area of the board has been more fun than the show!