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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:30 am
Jimmer, I wanted to watch this show and I missed (most) of it. I think if they promoted it more, I would have remembered it was on. Especially if (for me) they put some ads on during daytime TV.
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Scooterrific
Member
07-08-2005
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:37 am
why can't it be on sunday nights ? 
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:41 am
The other thing is why 10pm? There's nothing "mature" about it, if they could have it on at 8 or 9 it would be much easier to see. I almost always watch the 10-11 shows the next day (but make an exception for the Mole) and if others have done that too it would affect viewing figures.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 10:47 am
Putting any show up against a CSI series is the kiss of the death. They need to move this show to another night.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:37 am
I didn't notice a thumbprint on Victoria's helmet. Could it have been superimposed/camera trick? Mark is not the mole. He's from Wisconsin. Hence he is not the mole and won't win either. It's the law.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 11:46 am
I didn't notice until it was pointed out either, but it was huge, the whole of the top of the helmet. The other players wouldn't have got as good a look as the viewers because we got the top view of the stunt, they mostly just saw from the side. I don't think it was superimposed. I can't find a screenshot of it yet online, but I bet it'll be there soon.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:03 pm
I wonder if the time will change when the Bachelorette is done. Great show! I love that it's back! From the commercials before the show ever started, I thought Kristen is the Mole, just a hunch, or whatever. I'm interested to see if I'm correct. After watching the show, I think everyone is the mole!!!! Can't wait til next week. Oh, and I like the host too. He reminds me a little of Anderson.
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:04 pm
I tried to screencap, but I'm not very good at this! Normal helmet:
Victoria's helmet:
And because she crouched I think the others probably could have seen it easily after all. When she comes back after the stunt to talk to the others her helmet is off, whereas some of the others had their helmet on. I guess it doesn't mean she's the mole but it is interesting!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:13 pm
I loved the opening scene of the host walking near that waterfall! and the music! The only one I think might not be the Mole is the guy who cried and said his wife wouldn't have to work and could stay home with the kids. He really seemed sincere. However, he could just be trying to fool the viewers too. So maybe he is the Mole. I really overthink every little thing on this show and that is part of the fun for me!
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:18 pm
Kitt, that is interesting. Good catch! Do you think maybe production added that digitally for the viewers and maybe it wasn't actually on her helmet? What do you think?
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 12:46 pm
So, watching this again brought back a lot of memories! Anderson Cooper munching on sandwiches while he was talking to the contestants. The castle scene! The bicycles that made invisible ink show up in another hotel room or something! I don't think I watched the first season from the start - I think I came in late and had a really hard time trying to understand the premise. I was like, wouldn't the mole sabotage everything? Then I was like, why would anyone want others to believe they were the mole if they weren't? It took me quite a while to get all the strategy and such down. And I am a lawyer. I'm still embarassed when I think about it. Anyway, I have been thinking, it must be just impossible to try to re-create the magic of the first few seasons now that there are so many reality shows. And now that there are DVR's! Back in the day, people couldn't freeze-frame like they can now, and they could do clues without their being so obvious. I just remember the challenges were SO exciting to me! And the waiting and the music before the computer screen would turn green or red during the executions! My heart would RACE. The music was similar but not exactly the same. Anyway I enjoyed it but it's completely impossible for them to create the same magic as before. I love that they kept the same language - Coalitions instead of Alliances. Exemptions instead of Immunity, Execution instead of Elimination. Thanks to whoever posted the link to whack-a-mole, very enjoyable. Oh, and someone up there said something about their not doing the results on the mole, as in skipping them when they check for who is being executed? I do believe the mole's results would be shown just like the others, they just have to pretend to be nervous. Just like they have to pretend to do the confessionals.
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Dke1212
Member
07-13-2005
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 1:10 pm
ketchuplover said Mark is not the mole. He's from Wisconsin. Hence he is not the mole and won't win either. It's the law. I say that's because we are all too stupid to figure anything out...or, so some think. HA!
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 3:19 pm
Happymom, the credit's not mine, I didn't even notice it when I was watching the show, someone pointed it out upthread and I just watched online and screencapped it. To me it didn't look like it was added in post-production - when she's on the raft she goes this way and that and it's always there and looks real. But none of the other contestants (that we saw) seemed to notice it. Madelane, I loved that challenge where the bike in one room turned on the light in another! They really had to trust each other and with the mole around it was so interesting. I hope they do things like that this season.
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Foolscap
Member
09-04-2004
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 3:29 pm
I know the comments about the low ratings were way up-thread. but I just had to say that I share Jimmer's frustration that more people aren't into this show. I felt the same way first time around. It's so unique. I should think anyone who likes mysteries, puzzles or intrigue would love it. I was a little afraid when I saw the previews of the waterfall thing that they were going to dumb it down too much and emphasize physical prowess. But it turned out to be just being brave for a minute, and the scavenger challenge had that element I remember from before where people can be picked for certain tasks according to their strengths. I also agree with Madelane that it would be hard to re-create the original magic but I'm hoping they keep it as intiguing, challenging and unique as they can. I also enough people find, watch and enjoy it enough to keep it going.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 4:41 pm
Invite your friends over for a Mole-wtching party - spread the word! The Owl DID tape it and has it in the mail to me even as I type! What a great gal and pal!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 4:59 pm
I have been hyping it to my friends at work who like Big Brother and Survivor. They both taped it, and I talked it up big time today. Hopefully they will be hooked.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 7:29 pm
Thanks Kitt!
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 7:35 pm
It is the most intellectual reality show, maybe that is why it doesn't have such a big following, fans actually have to think! I am so excited it is back too, I really hope they don't pull the plug again!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 7:56 pm
this is a show kids could enjoy so the 10 pm slot sucks...plus most reality watchers view in the 8-9 timeslots. ABC has tons of empty slots during summer..how about thurs at 8 instead of betty reruns?! i smell trouble
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 8:08 pm
Yeah me too Pamy. The 10pm time slot is stupid, I don't know of any reality shows on network tv that start at 10pm. I saw a commercial for Wipeout which looks HORRIBLE IMO and that got a better timeslot than the Mole. Guess people don't like smart reality shows, sigh....
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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 8:27 pm
I looked up the first two seasons on Wiki to see what kind of sabotage methods were used by the mole in those seasons. It has been so long, I had forgotten. It might give us a clue as to what to look for this season.... Mole 1 (Kathryn) sabotage Mole 2 (Admiral Bill) sabotage Also it was fun looking back at the hidden clues in season 2! Mole 2 hidden clues

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Charlottesmom
Member
01-03-2008
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 9:07 pm
Do we know for sure that there are hidden clues at the beginning of each episode? There weren't in season one and in season two Anderson used to remind us to watch out for a hidden clue, I can't remember if Jon said it last night and I don't have it DVRed....
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 9:22 pm
My son and I watched the dvr tonite and enjoyed the show. ABC ratings will never be correct cuz most everyone I know is taping and watching later due to 10pm slot
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, June 03, 2008 - 9:23 pm
Marcie could be Spygirl's older sister, she really favors her
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 7:26 am
Thanks Charlottesmom ! Thank goodness for the DVR, I enjoy watching shows that come on past my bedtime while getting ready for work and after work when relaxing for a few minutes before doing "chores".
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