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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I would much prefer my risotto to be pea-less! :-)

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Peas are just nasty....

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Seriously. If I can gracefully eat around 'em, I will. If I can pick 'em out, I will. Yuck! Peas!

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I prefer to be pee-less too!

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
I can remember many a day as a kid sitting in front of a plate with five peas on it with mom threatening me that I would have them for breakfast if I didn't eat them. Put me on the I hate peas couch.

Oh and Petrozza and Christina seem like the best of a not great batch. Perhaps no one applied for the show this season and this is what Gordon got stuck with.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Love fresh from the garden raw peas. Like lightly cooked said peas in couscous. Hate canned mushy peas.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh I love raw peas, fresh from the garden. Can't stand 'em cooked in any way, shape, or form.

The thing is, they really don't taste that bad to me. But my mother's 2nd husband made me sit at the dinner table until I finished all my peas. I sat at that dinner table (I was about 14 or 15) until close to midnight. And every time he caught me sneaking peas to the dogs, he added twice as many peas to the plate. It became a battle of wills and scarred me for life!

Sounds like most folks think it's a Petrozza win. Should be interesting to see if Ramsey picks experience over one who can be molded to suit his needs.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
Am I the only person in the world who likes peas? I like them raw, cooked, canned and in pea soup. My kids never liked them and they didn't have to eat them, but as adults they do like my pea soup.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
Costacat: your second stepfather and my dad should get together and go bowling (The Breakfast Club.

My dad used to make me sit at the table for hours, too. It wasn't over peas, but over milk. I hated 2% milk growing up, and would let it get warm over dinner before I'd even attempt it. As a result, I had to sit there forever until it was gone.

Even today, I will drink homogenized milk (as bad as it's supposed to be - I don't care, I am underweight with low cholesteral). But I've always said, I'd rather drink a glass of water with a calcium pill than drink skim or 1%. My father used to think it was funny to roll up the cloth placemat and hit me over the head with it every minute that I didn't finish my milk.

Ironically, I have the best appetite and am the least pickiest person you will ever know. I'll try anything. The only food I honestly don't like is beef liver (and no, it does NOT matter to me if you insist it just has to be cooked right - it's never "right" to me!). And I'm a person who likes to pick up BBQ-ed chicken feet from Chinatown.

That's the thing with kids - sometimes they just honestly don't like something - whether it's temporarily or permanently. It's not all just about being stubborn! There's a lot of things I didn't like as a kid that I like now. And there's plenty of things I loved that other kids my age hated - like smoked oysters and pickled herring.

And I like peas, canned or otherwise, was just making a pun. :-)

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Costa & Lexie! I am popping fresh peas straight out of pods right now! It's the bestest snack. A local farmer friend knows how I love them, he always bring the first crop for me. I treat him with chicken Lo mein. But none of the fresh peas ever get to go in the wok. They are too good eating fresh!

Never mind Costa, just read the next one and you do like them the way I do!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I like Wasabi Peas.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I'm glad this season is coming to an end. I really didn't care much about this bunch. Not unlike many around.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Speaking of Wasabi Peas and kids with food:
My DD finally "discovered" Sushi! I can't tell you how many times I'd ask her to "just try one bite" and I ended up not asking any more a while back.
The other night she came home from a girl friend's small B-day dinner, and couldn't stop raving about it! Now she can't wait to do our Summer DC trip to "suck them all up" just as the way my family describe my eating Sushi! :-)

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
I never forced my kids to eat anything they didn't like. If they didn't eat what I served, they would be hungry (but I always made something they could/would fill up on.) When my daughter adopted my granddaughter at the age of three, her foster mother said it was a battle every meal to get her to drink her milk. The first meal my daughter prepared for her new daughter she poured her a glass of grape juice. My granddaughter looked at the glass as if she didn't understand. My daughter told her she never had to eat or drink anything she didn't like. My daughter got her first spontaneous hug. At thirteen, my granddaughter eats almost everything but still won't drink milk.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 12:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That is a wonderful story!

I can't imagine forcing my kids to eat something they don't like and I never ask them to finish something if they say they are full. Getting them to eat good food has never been an issue for us at all. Part of it is just setting a good example by eating it yourself and enjoying it.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 3:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
ITA Jimmer - I think I am so picky now because of being forced to sit at the table or eat stuff I didn't want to.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I agree with you, Jimmer, and understand, Jasper. The worst thing parents can do is make the dinner table a battleground.

I think parents in general stress out Way too much concerning their young children's diets. Yes, you need to make sure they eat a good balance of food, but in general, they instinctively get what they need.

I was in a constant battle with my father over mealtimes...a constant fight for control over my food, weight and body...and I really believe it played a big part in the development of the eating disorder I had in my early teens. I left home when I was 15 because of the battles for control with my father. Our issues all manifested around food.

I think parents should really calm down over food issues. It's just not that big a deal. Mealtimes should be a pleasant experience, not something to dread, like I did.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Jodied...could you tell my wife that?

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 7:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I had constant battles with my parents about eating green peas when I was a young child. Then when I was about 5 or 6 years old and she was forcing me to eat green peas, I threw up right there on the dinner table and she never made me eat peas again.

I am proud to say that I have not eaten green peas in over 40 years.


Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I wish I could, Nick. I actually remember reading a while ago about a study that kids will actually get the proper nutrients in themselves, despite picky habits. It seemed you just had to look at a slightly bigger picture.

The control group was given a steady, dietician-approved diet, while the other group was given a variety of choices, and the snacks and meals contained foods that may not have always "matched up" to make a perfectly balanced diet in that particular day.

But the researchers discovered that the children in the test group actually ate a steady diet of what they really needed, when you looked at it over two weeks or more. It's like how pregnant women will get cravings for food their bodies really need.

In any case, battling with kids over mealtimes is a losing game. The kids won't necessarily develop an eating disorder like I did, but when you make it into such a huge issue, there will be a battle for control on both parts.

You do need to have set rules: if you don't eat you dinner there will be nothing until the next meal/snack. And under no circumstances should there be leniency on this rule - don't agree to let the kid eat an alternative two hours later. Because then they figure your rules don't mean much.

But don't be unreasonable about the food, either. Kids go through phases of not liking something. One big issue with my stepmother was over the convenience food, Sidekicks. I actually loved it when I had it for the first few times, but then suddenly, I just couldn't eat it. And my stepmother took this as a show of defiance, so I had to sit there until I ate it. But I honestly lost my taste for it. And today I buy it myself, just for me! She could have just accepted I didn't like it, and by no means she didn't have to stop serving it to everyone else - I just shouldn't have had to sit there for hours and eat it myself. It wouldn't have killed me to miss out on a small serving of starch at dinner. And when it comes to vegetables, I believe that kids should be encouraged to try them, and a little bargaining doesn't hurt - just eat three bites and you're done. And sometimes kids prefer them a certain way...if they like their carrots raw, does it hurt to set aside a few from the ones you're going to steam?

Parents just have to relax...and like Jimmer said, you need to set yourself as the example. When kids see you acting relaxed and natural, and enjoying your food, they will follow suit. (Or at least they will not see it as a huge issue to just try something new). Once it becomes an issue, the lines are drawn. And you really are just digging your own hole when you make dinner a battleground.

There are just so many more important things parents need to focus on. You just have to put it all in perspective.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Okay, peas and milk. You have hit on the 2 foods I absolutely hate....

Peas: My mom used to make those frozen peas and, like someone said above, we had to sit there until they were all done. The dogs were not allowed in the dining room. So, we would shoot peas across the kitchen to them when my mom was not around (loved those dogs, ate anything and everything we gave them). Anyway, when we moved.... my mom found petrified peas in her teacups on top of the cupboard. By that time, she thought it was really funny and had stopped serving peas to us. To this day, I will not eat peas (or really any green cooked veggie).

Milk: Hate milk, but again had to drink it or I couldn't leave the table. I thought if I put it all in my mouth at once, then it would go quicker.. no, with 2 sisters and 1 brother, they just had to call me chipmunk cheeks and make me laugh. Well, you can guess the rest... milk faucets. To this day, I think this is the reason why I am the only one with messed up sinuses in my family. Now, I get my dairy in yogurt, cheese and ice cream.... no milk, not even in cereal.

Guess I wouldn't be a very good Survivor contestant.

Mamabatsy
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08-05-2005

Thursday, June 26, 2008 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamabatsy a private message Print Post    
My ex tried to make my kids sit at the table until they cleaned their plates. We had our biggest fight one night when my daughter refused to eat spinach and he sat at the table with her until 10 pm. I went in and picked her up and put her to bed. She was only 3. That was the last time either of my kids had to clean their plates. He made me realize how ridiculous it was to force kids to eat. As a result, my son who had to clean his plate until he was 8, has had a weight problem all his life. My daughter who stopped cleaning her plate at 3, has never had a weight problem.

To me the punishment for not eating all your food is that you will be hungry. The punishment for not wearing a sweater is that you will be cold. The punishment for not cleaning your room is that you cannot get anything new (as in clothes or toys) because you must have too much if things are all out of the drawers and closets. The only times I drew the line is when they could actually harm themselves. Because I only put my foot down on rare occasions, they paid attention when I did.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
My sister has had a weight problem all her life. I never have. So I'm not sure forcing a child to clean his/her plate is the reason for a weight problem. Just sayin'.

(And to those of us who were forced to eat peas, remember that parenting was a lot different in the 50's and 60's. There was a large group of parents who subscribed to the "clean your plate" or "starving kids in Biafra" school of thought. Much has changed in the last 40 years.)

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, June 27, 2008 - 8:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
And my parents were children of the depression. That had a lot to do with it. My dad still cannot throw food away and eats everything served to him on his plate. He cannot comprehend the meaning of doggie bag at a restaurant. It was the way he was brought up and will remain that way until he dies.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, June 27, 2008 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Costa, ITA with you that parenting was different back in the 50s and 60s - but I still hated green peas. After I threw up on the table, my mother finallyyyyyyy realized that if I was eating everything else, but not green peas, it just wasn't worth it to force it on me.