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Alisons
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01-10-2003
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:11 am
Yay-es, if you have THAT butt and THAT head it is OK to concatenate them!! It is too bad that Brandi couldn't hold it together a little longer so that Tiffany would not have to be in the the black-girl-with-the-bad-attitude role. I'm not sure that you have to be a paragon of emotional stability to be a top model. Look at Gia! It seems cruel to take women with low self esteem, put them in embarrassing situations and then scream at them if they can't rise to the occasion. So, after the last ANTM they sent Tiffany to Anger Management, are they going to let her get self esteem counseling and come back to the NEXT show? And WHAT is all this with the girls being uncomfortable in the shot with the guy? Top models have to walk the runways with nipples showing, see through clothing, no underwear and short skirts and so forth and they are having trouble sitting on a guy's lap in underwear?? What did they expect?
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Buggles
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09-07-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:02 am
Great posts Well I can see where this is going with Brittany and her 'transformation' I can already hear Tyra in the finale "Brittany. When you first came here... you were triple X porn star. I was like 'that girl is gonna be one of the first to go.' But you listened to what the judges had to say, and week after week you toned it down. And that personality that was at times too wild and over the top. You learned to reign it in. And now I see before me... a beautiful young woman, with just the right amount of sexiness, personality and EDGE." 
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Spunky
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10-08-2001
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 8:40 am
I waw just waiting for that moment, when Brittany made it I couldn't figure out who else could bring Tyra to such a state of anger. Well, Tiffany was a surprise, to me she was too complacent and never thought she could make someone so angry. But it was Tiffany's complacent attitude that drove Tyra to lose it altogether. I watched carefully to see if it was staged, but it was just too perfect, I couldn't discern any acting, it must have been real, Tyra must have felt offended (but for the life of me I can't see it such a tragedy to go off like that) but her tirade was genuine, her speech was incredibly well delivered, I wished I could keep that kind of straight talking without saying some nasty words when I'm angry like that. She is indeed quite articulate and her anger was expressed quite well, I'm just talking about the way she talked, not a word out of place, no blabbering or stummering..., but the motives seemed to me a bit forced, there was no real need to be that angry. Still, I can't see why they couldn't pick some real gorgeous girls and more talented than this bunch... (it's no wonder they're disappointed in all of them...).
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Not1worry
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07-30-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 11:36 am
All I can say if Tyra had started yelling at me like that, I would have told her to pack sand. She'd already eliminated me, she's not my momma, I'm not going to produce tears to feed her ego that this show is more important than life itself. I would have given them all the finger and walked out. Everyone handles disappointment and rejection differently. I think it was Tyra took advantage of the opportunity to blow up. She was playing to the cameras very obviously. She'd just told the panel the girls needed a wake up call. I hope she doesn't expect to yell at people like that on her talk show. Next week, she'll probably bring her momma on to "discuss" it all. I thought the double elimination (while surprising!) was unnecessary. I had picked Rebecca to win it for the first few weeks. At least be final three. If they let Lluvy stay around for another week to eliminate Noelle, then Rebecca should have gotten another week. Cut Tiffany (who was never going to win) this week and then you can axe Rebecca next week. Yes, so many models are called upon to be spokemodels with Cockney accents! But how sad was it that almost no one could read magenta. Girls in a modeling competition really should know names like Gisele Bundchen, etc. I think Kahlen is the only one left I like, so she'll probably be out next week. Brittany took a great photo and she's got a fabulous body, but she looks awful in person.
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Max
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08-12-2000
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 1:28 pm
Not just magenta, but chic and so much more. It was appalling how uneducated these girls seemed, not just in the area of fashion, but in general reading. Really made me wonder what schools they went to and whether they ever read anything. Heck, even if you only read People magazine and watch Xtra and Entertainment Tonight, you'd be able to pronounce a lot of what they read -- or at least be close. The cockney stuff was totally for effect. Equating it with being a spokesmodel was just theatrics -- and cheap ones, at that.
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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 2:12 pm
Rotfl Alisons no underwear and short skirts and so forth and they are having trouble sitting on a guy's lap in underwear?? But guy's laps are so lumpy and distracting!! Those poor girls were having a tough time. When the girls are posing on their own OR walking runway they have only themselves to think of. **************************** I just rewatched the end of the episode upon reading above I watched carefully to see if it was staged When Tiffany says that she was tired of being disappointed. Tyra gets even MORE upset and angry. Tyra ----We were ALL rooting for you. America was rooting for you. You could have won this. We were ALL rooting for you ...HOW DARE YOU! (Tyra Looks Directly at the camera at this point to make sure it is still rolling). Then goes on ranting and raving trying to make Tiffany feel guilty and cry. I believe that this was set up. Does anyone here really believe the others would have sat back and let Tyra 'go off' like that?? I personally think her credibility is lost at this point UNLESS she tells the girls she was acting in the next episode. TV shows have been cancelled for less.
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Buggles
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09-07-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 3:14 pm
Well I will be honest here. I thought Tyra was being real. If it wasn't she should go into acting IMHO. As for her looking at the camera... it's second-nature to her, as models need to be aware of the camera at all times. And this IS a tv show and she is the executive producer. So of course even if there is a 'real moment' she will be checking to see if the cameras are rolling. Tyra couldn't have predicted how Tiffany would react to being cut, and you could see the genuine anger rising in her as she was saying goodbye to the girls. That said, I thought her yelling was unprofessional and out of line. I agree with whoever said she ain't Tiffany's mama, and everyone handles disappointment differently. But that said. . Tiffany seemed grateful for it. I don't believe they could have forced her to say what she did, the way she did. Especially not after her time was up. And we know what a bad and unwilling actress she is. IMHO she seemed genuinely touched that Tyra cared enough to be upset with her. The only thing I will say is that I think Tyra's anger may have come more from a place of feeling INSULTED by Tiffany than by her failing to live up to her potential. Even tho of course she couched it in those terms. But IMHO there was probably at least a kernal of sincerity there 
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:14 pm
I think she glanced at camera and for a split sec thought about telling them to stop rolling, maybe even unconciously. I agree she spoke beautifully and it didn't seem like acting to me, she just seemed very disappointed in the girl.
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 6:18 pm
Another reason she may have been so pissed is that she gave this girl a second chance and she didn't seem to even care. Tyra may have fought hard with other producers to let Tiffany back this year and that is why she was so hurt/angry at her 'could give a shit' attitude.
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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Thursday, April 14, 2005 - 7:08 pm
I would have given them all the finger and walked out. Everyone handles disappointment and rejection differently. Ditto! Tiffany seemed grateful for it. I don't believe they could have forced her to say what she did, the way she did. They can't? That girl is under contract. They can force her to say anything they want or she doesn't get paid. Also, as I said before, that clip of her at the very end of the show--gushing over Tyra and how great her life is going to be--was obviously shot long after she was booted. Obviously, it was absolute damage control to make it look like Tyra's idiotic outburst, supposedly, changed Tiffany's life.
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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 10:35 pm
Rewatched the show Friday only to notice even MORE interesting stuff. The first time I never noticed how angry Tyra was getting when Tiffany out n out refused to read That stuff during the Judging. you could tell that scene had been edited down but Tiffany was threatened and made to cry then Tyra and the panel seemed happy. Obviously it would NOT have made "good tv" if one of the contestants refused a task. When the girls all came back out for the Handing out of the Pics/Finding out whom is staying...I noticed both Janice and Nigel were positively smirking. Noel looked ill and the Guest judge looked uncomfortable. I'd say this was a set up. Yes Tyra was legitimately angry but it seems that the Panel was ready to let her 'have at em'. Interesting.
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Jan
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:15 am
This from Kristin at E!: Q: How great was Tyra's tirade last Wednesday?! A: Emmy-worthy, for sure. But if you were in Tiffany's corner, no worries: I talked to her on Friday, and she and Tyra are thick as thieves. "She calls me all the time. We talk on the phone for hours: me, her and her mom. I call her mom mom. She's going to help me get started. I'm going to start going to the agencies. I'm not going to dive head first into the industry. Just tip-toe."
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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 7:52 pm
Yeah I bet she DOES call her all the time LOL Tyra kinda humiliated Tiffany on National Television and I wonder what the legal ramifications of that could be. Tiffany would have signed a basic contract but a good lawyer could say that Tiffany had her character slandered (Maybe>>??) Was that not the first time that we heard of the Anger Management course that Tiffany needed to go thru?? That is usually a confidential occurrence, surely not one to Share in public. Something like that will follow you in life everywhere you go and every job you do. Just an idea
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 8:48 pm
Janice cracks me up!! She absolutely cracks me up!
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 9:07 pm
That grave photo shoot kind of gave me the creeps - the shots really did not include any of the graveyard so there was no real reason that they had to be in a real grave it could have been mocked in the studio. Sometimes I think it is cruel how they try to get these girls to break. I felt very sorry for Kahlen having to deal with the whole thing. Props to her for having such a good shoot! Janice is totally a hoot - loved the roller skates comment!
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Max
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08-12-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 9:27 pm
When you sign up for a reality show, you pretty much waive any right to holler "slander" over something that happens. And the first mention of an anger management class came from Tiffany herself during the shows following the auditions; it wasn't a secret. Anyway, tonight's show. . . Janice cracks me up, too! At least she knew enough to be quiet when Tyra told her that Kahlen's issue was serious. Tyra sure did shoot her "the look" when she said it. Kahlen was great. I really admired how strong she was. It's not easy losing a friend when you're that young -- well, it's not easy any time, but when you're young, it's especially hard. I really, really wish they'd send Michelle home. The longer she stays the more crushed she's going to be and I really don't think she has a prayer of winning. The longer this goes, the more I'm rooting for Naima. 
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Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 10:14 pm
My opinion is ... the only two who have any chance to be a "top" model are Naima and Kahlen.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, April 20, 2005 - 11:05 pm
the first mention of an anger management class came from Tiffany herself during the shows THX MAX I didnt remember that. Kahlen has proven herself to be able to be 'controlled'. I think she will be final two at this point. There is no way that the producers didnt know about the Death of her friend...the cameras caught the impact and distress that Kahlen was feeling. To purposefully choose a GRAVEYARD death shoot for the Seven Deadly Sins seemed contrived. Jay also didnt seem too concerned NOR surprised when the girls told him about the death. This season seems to be kind of about "whom can be molded" instead of whom has natural talent and looks. I Like Michelle. I like her look and her abilities BUT she is too insecure. She reminds me of Shandi when she lost her confidence and had that meltdown. Tatiana was beautiful in some pics but really didnt have a "look" that would be easily used for most modelling (in my noneducated opinion LOL) We shall see whom wins this but I think the Naima has it in the bag. Nigel positively beams at her each judging. Body language says alot (he also beamed at ANN but Ann melted down and gave up as well)
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 4:53 am
I am getting pretty good at "reading" the editing on this show, so I was not shocked that Tatyana left from that perspective, but I was shocked in that all of her photos were good. They made a big point of her not being able to handle off the cuff discussions, but actually she was 2nd best in the interview part so not sure why this was selected as her big downfall. She was certainly no worse than some of the others. (Demonstrating picking your nose on camera??? Oh please!! Tell me some people have to be TRAINED not to do that!) Professional interviewers *do* have a chance to formulate some questions beforehand. On the View, the ladies always come in carrying index cards with info on them. Regis and Kelly have sheets in front of them, so does David Letterman. I agree that in press conferences awkward questions come up, but a lot of newsmakers do have handlers that try to prep them beforehand. The person's agent has a big stake in that person's performance so you would think that they would be drilled on "no comment" pretty well!
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Pamy
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01-02-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 5:27 am
The first interview they showed was Naima as the winner..I wonder if that was creative editing. I think Naima or Brittney will win.
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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 7:06 am
I am getting sick of Michelle. Oh my WORD, she's crying AGAIN!?!?! Blegh!! Every episode, she's got this sour look on her face, and she's crying, and kissing Tyra's butt saying "Oh thank you so much". Every judging she cries, every time she's not eliminated she cries. I'm sorry, but I think she's there purely out of pity right now. I think that dye job is disgusting. She looks like some low-income kid that played with peroxide. The black roots? What were the producers of the show THINKING?!?! Yuck. I think she looks trashy in every possible way. I hope she goes next week. I thought Naima was going to win this, but even she seems to be losing her confidence. We see this every year, and it's like a snowball effect. Judges insult a girl, girl feels bad and it shows, judges tell gil to not let it show, gil takes it as another insult and feels bad again, judges remind the girl to not let it show, girl feels that she is consistently a disappointment, eventually judges eliminate the girl. They really break these girls down. I'm not sure whether Brittney will win. She's got the spontaneity that does well, but that is also her downfall in her personal decision making. Tyra alluded to that last night when she talked about her getting sloppy. I like Brittney, and would enjoy watching her win. I like Kenya for winning the overall show. I think she is beautiful, and has a great personality, even in the spoken/moving/acting tasks. Kahlen's bangs bother me. It's like they are a wee bit too long, so she hold her head tilted a bit back, so she can see out. I always think of a sheepdog when I see her. They look like they are always hitting her eyelashes; I'venever personally been able to handle my bangs when they get that way. Who else is left? Oh Christine. Yeah, she's out right after Michelle. Oh PUH-LEASE get rid of Michelle. I'm not watching anymore if she doesn't go next.
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Spunky
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10-08-2001
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 8:43 am
I agree Michelle's hair color is awful..and those roots, however, how could they re-touch her roots and risk another bad reaction either a skin rash or nerves.. I don't know, I wouldn't color those roots again... So, I knew Tyra's anger was real... (one top model can't be that good an actress) and I like her for taking time to explain to the girls her reasons... but she needed to explain herself because she doesn't want to alienate herself from her "pupils"... and needs to be admired and respected by them (good for the show..). I still can't believe how these very ordinary looking girls can be transformed into such beauties during those shoots... But for me still no favorite, when I think that there are so many better looking girls out there more deserving of the win... oh well.. I can only explain this type of selection to avoid "the obvious winner", by getting not so great looking girls the audience will be guessing and guessing and wanting to see the show to find out who's going to win.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 9:02 am
I think Kenya is beautiful also, but obviously not the brightest bulb in the light fixture since she 1) demonstrated picking her nose in the faux news conference and 2) from the previews gains 10 pounds during the course of the competition. Gee, do ya THINK that gaining weight in the middle of a modeling competition MIGHT be trouble?? Houston, we have a problem!
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Catfat
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02-27-2002
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:25 am
I think Keenyah's weight gain will be an issue. One of the reasons that Britta (remember her?) was eliminsted was because she had gained 20 pounds, even though, in my opinion, she was far more beautiful than most of the others. Or maybe she was eliminated because she had that classic Nordic beauty look and they wanted someone more ethnic. I still like Naima the best, she is really stunning. In still photos, Michelle looks like a completely different person than she does when she is moving and talking. I think her sensitive skin should be an issue, a model has to be able to endure lots of hair colour changes, makeup sessions and other things damaging to skin. I honestly had not even seen Christina until last night, she sure was kept in the background. Is this just editing because she is to be the surprise winner? My favourite is still Naima. You go, girl!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 11:49 am
One other thing: I forgot to say how much I liked seeing the pics of Tyra when she was so young, and just starting modelling. Wow what a difference.
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