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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I liked Victorya and Jillian's designs the best, but figured Chris and Christian would win because of the "avante garde-ness" of their one design. I absolutely hated the skirt on the RTW outfit, though.

Oh, yeah...

NO MORE DRAPING!!!

I really think Rami should've gone home. He didn't play as a team, he was a horrible leader, he (tried to) throw Sweet P under the bus (and her RTW dress was the best of all of 'em!), and he yet frickin' again did the draping!!! Plus, those pants. She should've been wearing skinny leg pants under that gawdawful dress he made.

I would so wear that coat that Jillian made. I loved loved LOVED it!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I think Jillian's gonna win. She's been the most consistant.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Looking forward to watching the first (of MANY) reruns of last night's show!

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
"Rami deserved the criticism he received tonight (STOP WITH THE DRAPING ALREADY!)"- Kappy

"Rami should have gone. His behavior towards Sweet Pea was obnoxious, and everything that she was saying would have helped his look.
NO MORE DRAPING!"
- Alisons

"Rami's look is becoming a big snooze fest!"- Panda

Oh, yeah...
NO MORE DRAPING!!!
I really think Rami should've gone home.
- Costa

LOL I AGREE WITH EVERYONE!!! (I thought it was funny how many times this was repeated!) Man! I think it was even as early as two episodes earlier and I was telling my sister "Rami needs to do something else!! No more draping!". It's nice to see that everyone else is sick of it as well.....

Now I have been a HUGE Christian fan since the beginning of this season, so I was on pins and needles as well. I was so pumped when Team Fierce won!! I'm not much of a Chris fan but whatever he does to further Christian in the game makes me a supporter!
I am really surprised that so many liked Vic/Jil's outfits better. I hated the ready-to-wear and I was sure that it would get much criticism for not really relating to the avante-gard outfit. IMO It was too simple AND the only thing "linking" it to the avante-gard look was the fabric. (Plus I thought it was just unflattering) I was extremely surprised to find Nina praising it.

p.s. I thought Rami behaved horribly in this episode.......however....in all honesty I admitted to my sister that I am fairly similar. When I was in highschool I always dreaded working in groups. And yes, I was very controlling about who did what (and usually ended up wanting to do it all!) If I know that I can do something better I have a hard time delegating it to others. (And then I tend to micro-manage ) But I'm not saying it is right!!!!

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, January 17, 2008 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Is it too late to get my vote in for NO MORE DRAPING?!

I LOVED Jillian and Vic's outfit, I would wear that sucker. But I was glad "Team Fierce" won. I loved the way Chris and Christian worked together, they were a hoot to watch. They could really come up with some awesome things together.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 2:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I thought "Team Fierce's" avante-gard was really awesome, but I don't think it was all that original. Seems to me I've seen plenty of those "styles" on runways. I always laugh when I watch runway shows because there's so much of that kind of thing and I think, "Who in the world would EVER wear that?!! Show me some 'real' clothes!" LOL

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 4:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
I'm not a fan of Christian. I really think Chris was the master mind behind that creation but yet it seemed like Christian took all the credit. When they asked Chris whose creation it was I like that he said they each took a part instead of taking the credit. Sure it took both of them working well together to pull it off but the main idea for the dress was probably all Chris.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 6:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Darn! I fell asleep on the couch and missed this! Oh well, I will doubtless have many more chances to catch it during the coming week(s)!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Watching2, I kind of think that was the point. They were supposed to make something that was really out there. As they said designers do two things. They inspire with something no one would acutally wear and they turn it into something that someone would wear. I thought Cris and Christian did exactly that.

The only thing weak in their presentation was the skirt on the ready to wear dress. I think a flared skirt with just a tiny ruffle on the bottom to tie in the ruffles at the top might have been better than the straigt skirt. It looked a little bunchy around the wasist.

I liked Victoria and Jillian's outfits, but I do not think they quite did what the judges' wanted. As some have said, the Avante-gard outfit is something that a lot of people WOULD wear. While beautiful, it was not way out there.

And personally, I would have perferred black pants to the tan. I think black would have stood out better and added a punch.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 7:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Christian is beginning to grow on me. He is such the drama queen, but in an absolutely hiliarous way. He is so comfortable with himself.

It annoyed be at first how everything was just going to make him die. But now I just find it amusing.

I loved the "instruction" he was giving the models on how to walk down the runway.

I have always loved Chris. He is so happy and upbeat most of the time. I hated that Jack had to leave, but I was so glad it was Chris that got to come back. I am sure it was because he had been the last one to leave, but I was glad it was he who got the second chance.

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Christian is growing on me as well. His enthusiasm for his craft is wonderful to see!

Rami may be good looking but the way he treated Sweet Pea was horrible. In the words of a friend ... he seemed very anal and difficult to work with. Not a very attractive trait.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Yeah, Rami pretty much destroyed any attraction he had for me with that atitude. I was so thrilled that the judges loved Sweet P's everday dress and that they saw through his attempts to throw her under the bus.

Trueheart
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09-12-2006

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 10:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trueheart a private message Print Post    
In the words of a friend ... he seemed very anal and difficult to work with.

LOL!! Sorry I just had to laugh at this statement because of my confession in my previous post. A coworker of mine often says the same thing about me!! But it is done in a completely teasing manner. He would always say that I was "anal" until we both decided that maybe "meticulous" would be a better word.......

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
lol ... oh "meticulous" is absolutely better than anal. lol! I guess it's all in how you look at it!

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
I loved both top teams' garments this week (although I preferred Jillian & Victorya's outfit - including the contrasting tan pants). I've always liked both Chris & Christian and it didn't surprise me they worked so well together. They were a blast. I was kinda stressing for J/V though, as if I was the one who had the project deadline, lol. Rami never did anything for me though so I wasn't really disillusioned by his behavior this week - I just didn't like his design. But Sweet P's ready-to-wear dress was darling! Kit - oh dear. That hoop skirt just wasn't what I pictured when she first described her idea. But, come on, her being auf'ed instead of Ricky?! He seems to be a nice guy but looks to be out of his league compared to the remaining designers (plus a few already gone).

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 6:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
Yeah, we all know by now that Ricky can't sew very well. I'm astounded that the judges berate him every single week and still keep him.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, January 18, 2008 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I liked Jillian and Victorya's outfits best, but for this challenge, agree with the winners, but it kills me that only Christian gets immunity and credit... I think Chris carried the day for their team.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 3:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Agreed Sea! We all have seen Chris's portfolio so we all know that kind of work was "right up his line." Like I said before, Christian is growing on me, too. I didn't like him at all in the beginning.

Allie - I know the avant-gard wasn't something you would wear. My main thought is, that when I've seen those crazy styles on the runway, I think what the "C team" did, is something I've seen pretty often. (I was just embellishing on what I think to myself when I see that stuff on runways, esp. when they don't show anything "wearable." I'm always like .. ?HUH?!!" LOL

I thought Sweat P's ready to wear outfit was fantastic and it looked like something you could just go hang on a rack at any store, plus it was very stylish.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I love Chris, but by and large, the team leader takes the hit for the team when they do bad, so the team leader should get the glory when they do well.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I like Chris too, it will be neat to see how far someone already kicked off can get

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 2:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think there is a villain this year. Christian is a bit immature but he's got that right since he is so young. Rami showed a lot of impatience towards SweetP but other than this past episode he's been pretty cool.

I like Sweet P and Chris best as far as personality and I don't mind all the draping that Rami does.

It's been a sorta ho hum season for me but I still look forward to the show each week.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, January 19, 2008 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Yeah! I finally got to see the show and totally agree with the judges!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Watching, I know what you mean. I think the strangest thing I ever saw was years ago. It was a clear plastic bubble dress. I swear the design was taken from a barrell. It looked exactly like that with straps over the shoulders to hold it up. Underneath the model wore a kind of skin tight body suit. On top of everything the bubble had huge poka dots on it. I am not sure just what ready to wear they could have made from it.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Allie, that reminds me of those Olympic outfits they had I think for the Albertville winter olympics - the people who carried the signs for each of the countries had a bubble like a snow globe around them.

What is worse than an outfit like a bubble? An outfit like a bubble that is DERIVATIVE. he he!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 9:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Ok -- I noticed this little tidbit for the first time tonight. Has it always been in the credits?

During the previews, as the credits start, there is this "disclaimer:"

"The judges considered both their scores and input fromt eh Producers and Bravo in reaching their elimination decisions."

HMMMMmmmmmm -- How much impact does "consider" have on this??? A lot? A little? Enough to help them break a "tie" on a tough decision or enough to change their thinking?

I do think Victoria's coat was the bottom of the rung tonight, so I'm not questioning this particular decision; it does, however, call into question a couple of the past decisions!