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Archive through December 14, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Other Reality Shows ARCHIVES: Next Top Model: America's Next Top Model - IX: ARCHIVES: Archive through December 14, 2007 users admin

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Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
you're right Kooklie, hahahaa, good observation

in fact if you look at the names of all of the contestants this season, most are not very common

the blondes who have made it on this show: 'Caridee' and 'Chantal.' and 'Mila'

if you are a blonde Suzie and drop dead gorgeous and nice, good luck lol :-)


Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
sorry for posting so much ..

just wanna add though that i would not mind at all if this show were all about black/latino women only, to promote this kind of beauty and give them a leg up. i would still watch and enjoy it

but the way this show is done, it lets a few blondes in and then there is a frequent undertone that conventional blonde beauty is not as appealing (a msg that is being absorbed by young blonde girls) and sometimes it is made into a personality issue

jmho


Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 6:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
And yet there are plenty of blond super models. Heidi Klum comes to mind. Christie Brinkly, etc. And plenty of blonds, brunettes and redheads in the fashion mags too. It will be interesting to see who's on the new Super Model show and who wins that.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
i am always confused when they say a model is 'too commercial'. one would think that Covergirl would want a commercial model.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
i am not sure what your point is mocha

heidi klum is actually the only contemporary blonde supermodel that i can think of

my perception is that there has been a somewhat of a back lash against blonde beauty throughout the industry - tyra's show may just be a manifestation of this

i can understand to an extent, cause blondes used to dominate (think Farrah Fawcett era) but imo the msg should be that other kinds of beauty are equal, not superior

i can remember in the 80s when things were 'changing' and i got a teen mag that made a big deal saying 'boys prefer brunettes'


Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
My point (and I'm sure I had one lol) was that contrary to Tyra's and the other panel member's opinion, there are plenty of blond models out there that are very successful.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
awwww, that is sweet mocha

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Pfttt lol.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well I found a blog that has What Are They Doing Now updates which I found very interesting...

http://blog.promomodels.com/?p=14

http://blog.promomodels.com/?p=15

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Wow, I guess they are all doing pretty well. I thought they had disappeared.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm glad to see most of 'em are doing well. However, keeping busy and doing lots of work does not mean any of 'em are "top models."

Interesting that Eva, the shortest of all of 'em, is the one doing the most runway.

Panda
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07-15-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Panda a private message Print Post    
Great updates! thanks Mocha.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
When they say that Eva fired Tyra as her agent, does that mean that Tyra is the agent for all the ANTM winners? So, besides that lucrative Covergirl contract and the spread in Seventeen, Tyra books their gigs for them?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I thought the same thing Costa.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The winners get a $100,000 modeling contract (one year, I think).

I suspect that most of these girls are in it for the money and exposure. $100K is lot of money to an 18-22 year old. And while I do respect some of the lessons they learn, there's just too much gimmick in the seasons lately.

I strongly suspect there is some reverse bias going on, when I look at the color of the women who've won and the negative comments Tyra makes about California blondes. First of all, Ms. Banks, not all California girls are blonde, and not all blondes are from California (Chantal was a Texan, after all). And secondly, what's wrong with a nice, clean, wholesome, "girl next door" image? I think Chantal's look was a lot more refreshing than Saleisha's. I still love Christie Brinkley.

On the other hand, I'm sure the girls who've won or come close to winning this have also had to deal with discrimination on the other side. Winners of reality shows generally are looked upon as fakers in the industry in which they are trying to make their mark. Yeah, there are some exceptions (Jennifer Hudson for one), but there are far more who don't get further with their fame 'n fortune that the time they had on their respective shows.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
i think that eva might be doing the "petite" runway gigs.
especially in the la market, the lesser known dept store designers have shows for buyers that demand models who are junior catergory. when i modeled in college, there were girls who fit that category and were shorter in stature.

Kady
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07-30-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kady a private message Print Post    
so we haven't had a redhead yet or a plus size girl to win. is caridee a natural blonde?

something in me almost always pulls for the blondes. could it be that i'm a natural blonde myself that makes me biased?

this year though, i was for heather and lisa. i thought they both were beautiful, took great pictures and had nice personalities.

put me in the crowd that was disappointed completely in this season.

Dolphinschild
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06-21-2006

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Kady I agree they do need a redhead, and a plus size winner, but I would also like to see an Asian girl kick some butt. So if we have our way there are at least three more seasons to get our next 3 girls in there. ; )

Heather rocked this season and I was sad to see her go. She smacked down sterotypes so much and I think she brought a lot of encouragement to other people.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 3:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I really really wanted Lisa to win. I wanted a winner for once who really looked like a 'top model.'

If the judges had to stick to their unwritten one blonde quota, I would rather the blonde have been Chantal than Caridee. I think she is prettier and has a special something.

I think that Saleisha is also prettier than Caridee. But between Chantal and Saleisha, I would have rather had a Chantal win.


Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 4:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
The thing is that there are so many young girls who want to be models that Tyra will probably be able to continue this show for many years to come. I guess it's better than some of the unscrupulous (sp?) modeling agencies who take the girls money and run.

Costa, yes I agree that reality show stars have to overcome their reality show background. Jennifer Hudson was a good example, same with Chris Daughtery. So, maybe it's better to 'lose' a reality show in order to gain a more valid career.

Shar - If I recall, Caridee took some fantastic pictures every week. She rarely had a weak photo shoot. To me, that's the difference between this season and the Caridee season. I don't think Chantal or Saleisha would have made it to the final 2 if they were in the same cycle as Caridee. The models that year were very good.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 4:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
By the way, having been so annoyed by this 'cycle'. I will miss it on Wednesday nights. It's my secret guilty pleasure to watch this show and share comments with all of you.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I saw on another board Lisa and Bianca in an Applebottom ad. I'll try to get the pics...

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Wasn't that one of the rewards Lisa won? I seem to recall shooting an editorial for Seventeen or something. (The jewelry spread.)

Apple Bottoms are Nelly Furtado's line of jeans, yes?

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, December 14, 2007 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
No. Nelly the rapper's line of jeans.