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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 5:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What TNT said... I think Jen is a good cook but I don't think she has a good personality. I also think her ego is a wee bit bigger than deserved, and I would hate to work anywhere where she was exec chef.

That said, Matt definitely DEFINITELY needed to go. Overdue needed to go, in fact.

I think Bobby may be the winner this season, although I kinda hope not. He's already an exec chef, though, so he's got the experience. I think Christina is a good cook, but I think she lacks the experience that Ramsey needs (he made a good point last night about her needing such experience last night). I'm not sure I see Corey or Petrozza winning, but at this point I don't really care if any of those four win. Although I'm not really sure I've seen Bobby stand out in any way, shape, or form. :-)

Ahnicka
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08-08-2007

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ahnicka a private message Print Post    
Jen's personality can be annoying, but I don't like Corey's personality either, & I haven't liked it since the very beginning of the show. I thought Corey's personality would get better, but to me it hasn't. I don't have a favorite at all this season, none of them stand out to me as someone I'd want to win.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Darn! I totally forgot about the show! I'll have to look for it online, I guess.

Whatever happened, I'm glad Matt is gone. I agree, it was far past due. I can't believe he stayed as long as he did.

Gumby
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08-14-2004

Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gumby a private message Print Post    
Watching if you have the Fox Reality channel, it replays on Sunday nights at 7 pm Eastern,

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I don't know what it is this season. usually I laugh and shake my head at Ramsay's antics, but this time around I am just disgusted with him. What I particularly hate is how he's now constantly ordering people to come over to him (COME HERE, YOU!), and then screaming in their ears (so it's not a matter of trying to take someone aside and speak quietly to them). And he just won't let a mistake go. After a chef had already apologized six times, he's still ranting after their backs as they're trying to get back to work.

I wonder if he really likes being this way? He is so much more humane (if potty-mouthed) on his other shows. I'm tired of him tantruming and kicking things over like a toddler every show.

Justme2
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08-25-2005

Friday, June 06, 2008 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justme2 a private message Print Post    
Was one of the New York Housewives on this show years ago? I heard one was on one of the cooking shows.

As for this year I don't have a favorite yet.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 06, 2008 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Bethenny was on the Martha Stewart Apprentice show.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Friday, June 06, 2008 - 8:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
And if you've ever seen him on a talk show, he's such a nice guy. It really is all "for show" on Hell's Kitchen. At times I get sick of it.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, June 06, 2008 - 8:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Color, I agree it's all for show and I tire of it a bit too.

But still these contestants should be aware of what happens on the show.....ya get yelled at by Ramsey and called names and see him have hissy fits (for our viewing pleasure).

Just like on Idol you tune in and expect Simon's remarks, on Bachelor we should expect that every Rose Ceremony is the most dramatic ever.

But I am tiring of Ramsey...although my Ramsey crush is still on ;).

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Friday, June 06, 2008 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Technically, Brad's final rose ceremony was the most dramatic rose ceremony ever.


Supergranny
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02-03-2005

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Supergranny a private message Print Post    
I love Jen! If you want to go far you have to have that extra super ego. I hope she wins!!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, June 10, 2008 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Jen certainly has that extra super ego - so, if that is what it takes, she is a shoo-in!

I am priviledged to cook every week in the kitchen with two professional chefs who own their mistakes, respect their co-workers, and see the team as more important than themselves. All three of those things are very un-Jenlike.

I was sorry to see Bobby go. I think he had probably gotten too confortable in his skills to work at developing new ones, but I do think the potential to grow and change was there.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 6:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I grew up in some of the most highly thought of kitchens in the Chicago area c(.a. 1970's) and I never saw egos like Jen. There were ego but not the immature ego that Jen brings especially since she's served raw or undercooked foods more than one time. She's not a great of a chef, imo mediocre at best. I can't see Ramsey picking her at the end of the day just because of her bad attitude and her lack of being a team player. The kitchen is nothing more than a finely tuned team from the dishwasher to the head chef.

I have a feeling that dirty Petrozza might squeek through to the end?

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
I was kind of shocked that Bobby was the one to go. He did have a terrible night though. My opinion on the final 4:

Jen - too self absorbed & really doesn't seem to work well with others. She does have great cooking skills though but she moves at too slow a pace to be in a busy restaurant kitchen.

Corey - She's good but IMO not stand out leadership good. She works hard & can stand the fast pace of a busy kitchen - only in the "worker bee" roll though not the leader.

Christine - knows her stuff but needs to learn when to shut up. IMO she causes undue stress in the kitchen by barking orders when it's not needed. She needs a little more experience but will someday lead a staff very well - just not now.

Petrozza - IMO he has it all in the kitchen except hygene & that can easily be fixed. He has experience, works well with others & is an excellent chef. I see him at least in the top 2 & probably the winner.

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 8:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler
Interesting that both this show and top chef wound up with the final four being 3 woman and 1 man.


<added Spoiler Box ~jr>

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Amen and amen, Lilfair!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There is a difference between having an ego and being self-confident. Those who have huge egos generally don't have the goods to back things up. Those who are quietly confident tend to do better, and be better leaders. If Jen's attitude continues, doesn't matter if she wins or not. No one will want to work in a kitchen where she's the exec chef.

I wasn't too surprised to see Bobby go. He's really not done anything that is a total standout. And in the beginning, he intentionally let the others on his team sabotage themselves, while he stood back and didn't help his team. After that bit, I kinda knew he wasn't gonna win, but that there were others who were far worse chefs who'd end up going first.

I like Christine but don't think she'll win. I think she's lacking experience, but you never know what Ramsey will do. I kinda think Petrozza just may take this thing. While he had a lousy week, he's generally performed pretty reliably, hasn't he? However, I think that a woman is gonna win this time. I just feel it. As long as it is NOT Jen, I'll be happy.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, June 11, 2008 - 9:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
and to think I had Bobby winning it while working "under the radar"

wow.

wow!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 4:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I agree with Costa.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 5:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I don't want Corey to win. I still remember from the beginning of the season when they were all tasked with cleaning the kitchen and she thought she was so much better and went back to the living area and slept.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 9:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Petrozza is the only one I really like and I think he is a great chef. I don't see him being a head chef because he is too nice.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
But, this time, it's a Senior chef position, not a Head Chef. Rock got a Head Chef, but this time, it says they win a Senior Chef. That may make a difference in Ramsey's choice.

The “steaks” are higher than ever -- the winner of the competition will earn a coveted senior chef position at Ramsay’s new restaurant, Gordon Ramsay at the London West Hollywood, which is scheduled to open in summer 2008.

Season Three of HELL’S KITCHEN, in which Rock Harper won the coveted title of Head Chef of a new fine Italian restaurant at the Green Valley Ranch Resort and Spa in Las Vegas, outpaced the previous season in ratings.


Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 10:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
Roc ain't no Head Chef, Executive Chef or whatever. When Terra Verde was about to open, I looked at the menu and asked about the Executive Chef. It wasn't Roc. When we ate there we saw Roc shaving Parmesean cheese and talking to guests. He was not acting in an Executive Chef capacity. Over at Terra Rosa, Heather was doing some major culinary training and she is definately part of the cooking team.
I'm not sure what cooking Roc is doing these days.
But what these aspiring chefs do on Hells Kitchen is NOT demonstrate Executive Chef skills.


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, June 12, 2008 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I honestly cannot get excited about ANY of them winning...

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, June 13, 2008 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mizinvanccouver a private message Print Post    
I'm with you Seamonkey.