Author |
Message |
Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:04 pm
  Unbelievable. And to top it off, all Lisa can think about is that they didn't immediately congratulate her? Did they even congratulate each other yet? Ugh, I do not like this woman! Why do these shows keep thinking they need a villain in the final 3? Nice to see Steph pick Dale first. 
|
Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 8:52 pm
she better not win, i seriously don't think i can have a 3rd season of 'i don't care for the winner'!
|
Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Wednesday, June 04, 2008 - 10:17 pm
What is it gonna take to get rid of Lisa? If I known I was going to get stuck with her on my tv every week I would have just checked in here to see whats happening on the show! Has Lisa been in the bottom more than any other chefs from the whole show???? Its not like Lisa has been a great personality on the show. Not like Stephan (from season 2?), who I loved to hate. Or Marcel for that matter! Lisa adds nothing to the show! Stephanie has been my pick to win since the beginning. I really didn't like Richard at all but now he is growing on me. I'll take either one for the win.
|
Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:08 am
OMG! She's just SO abrasive and still has those crossed armes. I sure hope she doesn't win this. Glad Dale's error didn't hurt Stephanie and liked how they worked together to create another dish. Noticed that the east coast people who were able to text voted 91% that Lisa should be the one to go.. I agree. Thankfully she didn't win the quick fire.. I'm sure she would have tried to put together incompatible teams.
|
Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 12:13 am
Well, I just spent sometime over at Bravo. Of the 4 that were left at the start of the show tonight. Quickfires--Elim.Ch.wins--Bottoms Richard -4- -3- -1- Stephanie -1- -3- -3- (I know she said she had never won one but she had a shared win) Antonia -4- -1- -1- Lisa -0- -1- -6- I know they don't go by past winnings but I think they should. If that was the case Lisa should have gone home. I don't know if anyone else was interested but I thought I'd share! 
|
Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 5:01 am
i know it's supposed to be based on the dish THAT night, but come on..is the top chef really someone who has been in the bottom 6 times??!!!
|
Appletalk
Member
03-27-2003
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 5:29 am
Just my opinion - but if they kept Lisa - yet once again after being at judges table 6 times - they must think their other chefs are pretty bad. I liked Antonia a lot and think she deserves to still be there. I think Lisa should have been gone long ago.
|
Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 6:06 am
I didn't think Lisa was that "bad" tonight (well last night). I don't love her like I do the other three, but I think she is not as bad as everyone else here thinks...
|
Nerovh
Member
06-12-2005
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:16 am
I think Lisa is every bit as bad as people here think she is. She never, ever owns up to her mistakes, she has always been abrasive with the other chefs AND with the judges, and she is constantly cursing and banging around in the kitchen with a negative atitude. It was funny that when they brought in the "sous chefs" last night, she had a problem with half of them. When she said something like "Andrew thinks I threw him under the bus", I was like "Well, maybe that's because you DID throw him under the bus." I am so hoping to never have to see those crossed arms and that sour expression ever again after this season.
|
Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:40 am
If the producers have anything to say about the winner, they will pay attention to the 91% who voted that Lisa should go home. I don't think anyone who has been in the bottom that many times deserves to win, period. I don't like her, I don't like her attitude, and I'm really tired of all of her excuses. I haven't watched the show yet, but if she's all up in arms cause the others didn't congratulate her, maybe she should take a good long look in the mirror (standing there with her arms crossed) to see if she can figure out why. She IS every bit as bad as people here think she is. I would never eat at any restaurant at which she worked (even as a line cook). And I don't care if she is or is not a good cook, she's NOT a "top chef" to me.
|
Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 7:50 am
Cokegirl, thanks for the rundown on wins/bottoms. I actually didn't realize that Lisa hadn't won a quickfire either! It looks like something might be brewing next week visa via the previews, although we all know how misleading that can be. Gentleman Richard looks like he is about to say something dramatic in front of the judges panel....(about the time I think they are asked for last comments)....dare I think that it would be something about Lisa? I was really amazed when they showed him tonight TWICE saying negative things about Lisa: at top of the show, when he indicated surprise that she was still on board, and somewhere toward the end when even HE referenced her bad attitude in kitchen...will he finally speak up next week to the judges??? With others, I was SOOOOOO looking forward to a terrific Richard-Stephanie-Antonio finale, and not having to worry about who won, because all are talented and deserving. I hope against hope they didn't "give" us Lisa thinking it would improve the drama of the show. It has just made me not want to watch.
|
Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:33 am
I think Stephanie should win - She has won challenges and taken on the hardest and risky tasks (bride's wedding cake), she never gets involved in the conflicts in the kitchen, she is calm. If it was me and my sou chef had left my meat out overnight, I know I wouldnt have taken it that calmly and said ok, lets see what we can do. She is grace under pressure and I think she would run a great kitchen.
|
Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:36 am
I would love to be a fly on the wall in Lisa's house when she is watching herself on this show with her friends and family. But I could probably take only 15 minutes of observing her reactions to how she was "editted".
|
Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:50 am
I agree with Maris. Not only do I feel Steph deserves the win but I think ultimately after the food being left out and how well she handled it the judges think she's worthy....especially compared to the antics and attitude that Lisa has displayed since day one. I'm pretty sure the judges are privy to the personalities. I like Richard too and think he'd be a good head chef but I'm partial to Stephanie and hope she wins. Padma's dress was great. I have a function I need to attend this summer and I want that dress. (I wouldn't do it the same justice Padma did) I went searching around to see if I could determine who made the dress. I know there is a website out there that has that kind of info...I've used it before and thought I had it bookmarked...but guess not. Anyone out there know how I can get that info??? Thanks
|
Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 9:14 am
I agree 100% with Costa, who hasn't even watched this episode yet. And the reason I can agree with Costa, who hasn't even watched the episode yet, is because I had a campaign party last night so I had to tape it and I haven't watched the episode yet.
|
Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 9:52 am
LOL Lexi!!
|
Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 10:13 am

|
Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 3:46 pm
Judges can't "pay attention" to current polls- the show is already done! LOL Chef Tom comments on Lisa's negativity in this week's blog. He explains (yet again - happens every season) how judges do NOT see any of the crap going on in the kitchen, etc. They taste the food, he sees them briefly on his "fly by" of the kitchen, and then they get judges' table. He discussed why they can't do "cumulative" judging, so each night it's up for grabs. He also explained that when they looked at the tables, Richard had a long line, Steph had a good line, and even Steph had a line. Antonia had NO ONE at her table. I loved Antonia and can't stand Lisa, but I do think this is one reality show that is not "rigged" - after the casting is done (w/a few 'tudes thrown in to keep it interesting), it's up to the chefs in each and every challenge to perform. As Tom says, Lisa's screw-ups have been fairly minor and she's been the "lucky one skating by" because other, possibly more talented, chefs have screwed up MORE than she on that particular night. LOVE, LOVE, LOVE this show!! I'm surprised there isn't a reunion show next week.
|
Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 4:03 pm
Excellent points Teach! Totally agree that they don't let popular opinion taint the show at all. Love it that way even of it lets a few Lisas in the finals.
|
Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 6:27 pm
Teach, I didn't say judges, I said producers. The producers paying attention to the polls as to who the final winner the public would want. Lisa has been on the bottom end of "who should pack their knives and go". As well as the bottom in most of the recent elimination challenges. I finally watched the show, and promptly erased it so I can't go back and look but... Didn't it seem that Antonia's table was a wee bit off the beaten path? It looked like she was off a bit in a corner. Which would explain why people weren't hanging around her table... it's a lot easier to hang around in the middle of a party, rather than off to the side, yes? The producers do have some influence, no matter what anyone thinks.
|
Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:07 pm
During season 2, when that girl that shaved off her hair (????) complained about Marcel's behavior in the kitchen....she was promptly told by Tom that they didn't care about stuff like that only about the food they served. So I think Lisa can continue to bang pots and cuss...that will not influence the judges. Cokegirl thank you for posting those stats....if you go by the stats then RIchard deserves to win but I am hoping for a Stephanie win, we need a female Top Chef and she has skill, talent, poise, and communication/people skills. (and a better hair do than Richard...lol)
|
Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:10 pm
Either way - producers can't influence the outcome because the winner's already been chosen. IMHO the opinion polls/texts are just a way to help people feel like they're "voting" for something (ala American Idol, etc.) or more involved, but they certainly don't have an impact on the outcome. I agree the producers have some influence, especially in the casting and editing, but this appears to be the least interfered w/reality show as far as who stays and who goes. The judges' blogs all indicate the long deliberations they go through, and my impression from reading them for three years is that the judges would not even be involved w/the show if they didn't get to choose the winners & losers each week w/out worrying about a producer's interference. I went back to my tivo, and it looked like the tables were spread out evenly in the courtyard (there were only one or two overhead shots, but it appeared to be pretty symmetrical). The Puerto Rican judge was interviewed and mentioned her one plate disaster, too. 
|
Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 8:13 pm
"producers can't influence the outcome because the winner's already been chosen" --EXACTLY!
|
Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 9:23 pm
Isn't this show just like all the others on Bravo? They take a break for the finals and maybe a week or 2 before the finale is shown on TV they tape it? On the show last night they all said that its been a few months since the F4 were picked. To me that is more then enough time for the producers to mess with the final outcome and to read the message boards. JMO
|
Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, June 05, 2008 - 9:31 pm
They may take a break but it was taken three months ago. The taping of the finale was finished well before the first episode was ever shown. The finale isn't live, so viewers don't see it until after the cooking is all done and the winner has been declared.
|