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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 1:01 pm
Yeah, Clara was just a doll, and I was actually glad that her mom decided it was okay to play girlie-girl with her after the swap. That was sweet. I did think it was sort of hokey that the producers had her win the pageant, though.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 6:45 pm
I agree with "hokey" of her winning that pageant. They could have just left that part out for me.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 8:24 pm
I'm glad this show is back. The more opposite the families the better. I don't see tptb running out of non mainstream families. (dang...it was hard not to have had that sentence moderated). Pageant parents could win for most most destructive parents in Wife Swap history. Being 15 and not knowing how to spell America nearly had me fall off my chair...shocking to say the least. Everything else about her...well I thought she'd grow out of once she went off to college but we all know that will be unlikely and I agree with the posters that didn't find her all that attractive. I really hope that once other family members (aunts uncles grandparent) see the show and see the lack of interest her parents show in getting their child basic education...well someone should step in, I hope.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, January 03, 2008 - 8:47 pm
Makes you think that they only went on the show in order to 'further' their daughter's pageant career in their minds. I suspect they thought they came out wonderful last night. I get mad when the husband yelled at the feminist when all she was really doing was trying to get the daughter to see how strong women can be. Although, she should have let her keep Oprah as one of her strong women.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:15 am
I think what may be damaging to the little girl who 'won' the pageant is when she finds out she didnt really win, it was faked for the TV show. I hope the parents keep on the straight and narrow giving the girls a solid basis for allround pride, not just looks. Yes, I agree with the prev poster who commented that the Dad was making fun of Dentists, not saying that his daughter was going to be one. Geez, if that wasnt filmed in America I'd think that the parents were going to auction her off to a rich man as a trophy wife. 'Fully Trained as eyecandy, she 'knows her place' and will NEVER talk back'
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:20 am
What makes you think that doesn't happen in America? Do we know for a fact that little girl didn't win that pageant fair and square? Maybe the judges of the pageant liked seeing a fresh face for a change.
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Kady
Member
07-30-2000
| Friday, January 04, 2008 - 12:56 pm
can i have a Christmas tree year round and get a present everyday? please please when my son was in the 4th grade he had just changed to a new school. on their first project, i helped a little but basically he did it himself and you could tell. anyway on open house night they were all hanging in the hall. he got a C. i was so angry because the A ones were done by the parents...you could tell. after that, i had to help him more.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, January 04, 2008 - 3:52 pm
as I watched the Ambulance carrying a flailing Brit Spears out of the house yesterday, it struck me. Same 'robotic' childhood, same being dragged from competition to competition, same stress to Win win WIN! from a very young age. I would think that this youngster from Wife Swap could end up on a similar road as an adult when it becomes obvious how her parents ruined her life. Just my opinion.
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 4:40 pm
Just got around to watching this episode of Wife Swap. Pageant dad gave me the creeps. I wonder what his friends and family thought of his rude, bullying behavior. Also would be interesting to see how the school feels about her parents doing her homework/projects. Like Sun I immediately thought of Britney Spears and how pageant girl could easily end up the same way. Only difference, Britney does/did have a singing career.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 8:20 pm
When the "Strong Woman" Mom was asking "Pageant Girl" to name a great, influential woman, I was waiting for the girl to say Paris Hilton. In fact, her lips did seem to purse up a bit like she was about to start off with a P word. Maybe that was what came to mind, and she thought better of it at the last second, and said Oprah instead.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 9:21 pm
And give her credit for coming up with Rosa Parks, though not by name.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:44 pm
15 yr old pageant girl is in her prime: I see her as resembling her dad & come on, he is nothing to look at. This may be her only chance of being considered "beautiful" Everyone usually looks good at some time or other in their life - her time is now because time will not be on her side IMO.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Saturday, January 05, 2008 - 10:54 pm
In the Rosa Parks conversation I was impressed until she said, "she standed up for her rights" 13 years as a high school teacher, you all would be SHOCKED at how much homework is obviously done by parents. I have even had parents call and gripe about the grade that THEY got. It never ceases to amaze me how many extreme families are out there as well. Good for the waitress that she got to have the girl serve her. Of all the things that they did the Christmas tree was the oddest to me. I thought of Britney in the sense that the mother of the pagent girl made me think that she is probably one of the rare people out there that thinks Lynn Spears is a good mama!
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 11:12 am
What I found so sad was how much pageant girl wanted to please her dad. She was so proud of herself for fixing a meal and he didn't say one nice thing to her about it. Not even a "Thank you." He's a real piece of work!
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Bluejaxrock
Member
04-23-2004
| Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 2:47 pm
Bombaycat, ita, that segment about broke my heart. When I was little I made my daddy cakes with my EZBake oven. He'd rave about how wonderful they were. And this was in the early '60's, so nowhere near the technology and flavor of today's EZBake recipes...lol My cakes looked like hockey pucks, and probably tasted like a hockey puck, too. I must have missed the Christmas tree. I saw it in the background, but thought it must be Christmas-time. So let me get this straight - they have a tree up year-round, and she gets a present a day?
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Bombaycat
Member
07-21-2007
| Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 3:51 pm
Yep - they leave it up so it's Christmas for her every day. Kinda takes all the fun and mystery out of the real Christmas time. Bluejackrock I luv your EZBake story. Those are the true memories we take with us.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 5:24 pm
back in the days when Parents really Parented....and gave their kids selfconfidence and self esteem. we definitely are living in the "me" generation. Its every man for himself.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, January 06, 2008 - 6:58 pm
Her dad was not raising her to be a homemaker, wife and/or mother. These skills are not important to him. He is raising her to be a 'beauty queen' or a star of some kind so he can ride on her coat tails. My parents drilled all those 'homemaker' skills into me and they aren't worth a whole lot these days IMO unless I want to knit a sweater for a friend's gift or something.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 6:04 pm
Lord are they picking the most obnoxious families they could find??
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 6:45 pm
Whew ok major turnaround.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 7:06 pm
had to wipe a tear from my eye - back when I was in my 1st yr of home ec., we were taught how to bake homemade bread. My parents divorced just a few months earlier & I was living with Daddy. I wanted to impress him, so I made him homemade rolls. They didn't rise right & I think I over cooked them. Daddy ate (or got rid of behind my back) every single one of them & told me how good they were & I could cook for him any time I wanted. My Dad passed away 4/13/95 @ the age of 59 & I miss him for as long as I live.
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Herckleperckle
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 9:13 pm
Aw, {{{Texasdeb,}}} your father was a gift, hon. A gift.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, January 09, 2008 - 11:20 pm
now THAT is good parenting! Everyone I know with kids are brutally honest with their kids, even telling them about Financial problems and way too many details about 'adult' issues. HEY what did ya guys think about tonight's show? It was a weird combination of verbal abuse and strange reconciliation (that I think the producer FORCED to happen LOL) BOTH men were aggressive in this episode. Usually it is the two aggressive partners put together..isnt it? I really disliked the 'slob' father and his verbal abuse. The most eyeopening moment was his Reeming out of the Blonde woman then when she called him a "fat Bast**d" he started to freak out that she 'said stuff' infront of his children. WHA??????? he was disrespectful and abusive and didnt see it at all. bad breath? and what did he call her on the deck? Good GRief! I'd jump off a bridge if stuck with either of those guys.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:35 am
The local affiliate preempted it for a Packers season review.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:45 am
Sunshyne, ditto to your post. What happened to two average families with different approaches? This was the first episode I have watched in over a year, they always have these extremes. Slob husband was abusive and the production crew should have shut him down immediately and then blondie curses him out in return both in front of those poor children. I wish the show would make it clear that the husbands HAVE to follow the rules. It's the main reason I don't watch this anymore, seems every show is a fight and it sends my blood pressure sky high. I get very stressed when I see that level of hostility. LOLOL
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