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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 11:16 am
I prolly wouldnt have brought my wedding ring if I was on show..mainly cuz I wouldnt want to lose it....you wouldnt be able to wear it in shoots and I wouldnt want it to get lost/stolen in the house I dont find Natasha to be fake but that's just me
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 4:26 am
I'm pretty sure Natasha does have a baby, and don't you think it makes Natasha look good that she's not using her child constantly as a grab for attention? Her profiles list her as 21, a stay-at-home mom and part time student. Love that her favourite movie is Fight Club. Natasha http://www.pixnet.net/photo/antm/48071247 Sunshyne, whoa, that's harsh. I've noticed every time you say you hate someone, you say you "know people like that". Something to take into consideration: you can't possibly put yourself into the shoes of a person from extremely different circumstances where opportunities are few. I'll bet back home Natasha's best chances of success would involve selling cosmetics, like Avon. Russia has come a long way, but women still don't have a lot of choices to go very far. So if she came to America, married an older man to create a new life, so be it. I'm sure the older guy is not blind to the risk he would be taking in this; I don't think it's like he's being taken advantage of. If they both got what they want, and they're not hurting anybody, who are we to judge? Like I said in a past post, I hope we get to know more about Stuart. I think the whole issue is funny from watching the other girls' sniping about the whole thing.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 6:25 am
Frankly, I am ready to go to a Russian website and bring over an 18 yo future male model. 
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 7:49 am
I don't think it's "creepy" to be married to an older man. It depends on the two people, their priorities, there personalities, etc... if it's going to work or not. Calling each other baby, honey, sweetheart, lover... nothin' wrong with that!! Whether or not the marriage between Natasha and her husband lasts probably has less to do with the age difference then all the other factors that break up marriages... stress, money, work, children.... Anyway, since when is 40 old?? Or creepy?? Oh yeah, I'm married to an older guy.. he was hot 20 years ago and he's still hot!!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 8:12 am
calling your loved one 'baby' is being domineering?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 8:45 am
Or when is 40 "30-40 years older" than a 21-year old? It's been a while since I took a math class, but... LOL RG!!! Your "baby" is gonna stay hot cause you help him stay that way! 
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Resortgirl
Member
09-23-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:58 am
Costa, he better stay hot well into his 70's cause I got "plans" for him!! LOL!! Forgot to add, when I married "my" older man he didn't have 2 dimes.... we built our empire together! HAHAHA!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 12:59 pm
<wink wink nudge nudge> <snicker>
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 6:30 pm
Both Canada and the USA are big countries. I completely accept your opinions since we all have had different life experiences. Guess I'm not allowed to have my opinion based on my experience. The men I know in their 40s who dicker around with 18 yr olds are all about "control". They arent with a woman of their own age because Canadian women wouldnt put up with the B.S. they spiel. Then there are the Older guys who have divorced their wives after a few kids and exchange them for a sweet young trophy wife. This new wife is treated incredibly well and are very appreciated. But once again, just in my experience and opinion. Natasha had said on the show that her husband was Over 40 and she was 18 when they married. So how old was she Before they got married? How long did they do the internet thing? Remember she told the other girls that the only English she knew was Hello, I love you. Yep, sounds like a non-creepy marriage arrangement to me. ((based entirely on the show, not fan sites or anything else))
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 6:42 pm
Mocha,I'm glad for you.! Especially if your guy is >25 yrs older than you like Natasha's is. Jodied. Nothing harsh about saying someone seems fake. It is a conclusion after viewing a number of the TV shows. No where in my post do I say HATE. anyways, I cant stand Natasha's personality. it seems just like a few fakes I used to work with. By the way, Costa I never said Natasha was 30-40 yrs younger....I meant the Two couples I know of are 30-40 yrs age diff. That line did seem ambiguous when I read it back now. **** there sure is a lot of reading between the lines/guessing what I 'really mean', instead of reading what I've said That phonecall with the husband was kind of creepy as well in my opinion response from a poster - I don't think it's "creepy" to be married to an older man I dont think it is creepy to be married to an older man.....OR a younger man (which is in my family numerous times LOL) I think the way a couple meets is important. it has nothing to do with age. Being ordered via internet is not exactly a normal way to obtain a spouse. Why didnt the guy in his 40s look for a woman his age? Lots of women looking for guys here in Canada my area. However, they arent young trophy women and most have kids. Okay, I am looking forward to the next show. Looks like a party!
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 6:47 pm
Sunshyne, of course you're allowed to have your opinion. But then, so are we. We can argue our sides, as you can argue yours. Nobody is contesting that. So what's the problem? We don't know anything at all about Natasha's husband; that's the point. Who knows what exactly happened. I'm hoping we find out more. In my opinion, in these "mail-order" relationships, both sides are well aware of what they're getting into. If that's what they want, then so be it.
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 7:04 pm
Sunshyne, looks like we're posting simultaneously. My point is, I don't think Natasha was posted on a website, and "ordered" by Stuart. I'm sure it was consensual. Maybe there was romance, maybe there wasn't. For the sake of argument, say it was indeed a "convenient" marriage (and in all likelihood, it was, whether or not it remained that way??). Stuart got his hot younger, foreign bride, and Natasha got her ticket into the land of opportunity. If neither had obtained their wishes, then Stuart would be making an older American woman miserable (as he pines for a hot, younger foreign woman), and Natasha would be back in Russia dreaming of a life of a husband and children, and/or working a job that pays her far less than any Russian male, after getting an education that went as far as she could pay for. My bottom line - take what opportunities life can offer, as long as it isn't hurting anyone. Are there all these women now suffering because Stuart married Natasha instead of them? I doubt it.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 7:19 pm
I met my DH online..I wonder if that makes me a mail order bride 
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 7:29 pm
Okay all this talk of her being ordered on the internet..can anyone actually confirm this or is it all speculation because she's russian?????
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 7:49 pm
And, I guess, my point (also when talking about Jael), is there is NO PROOF of any of this. So making assumptions or starting rumors can be, and likely is, quite hurtful. Without knowing all the details, how can anyone form an opinion that is not biased? Pamy, girl, duh! Of course you are a mail order bride. Just exactly what hubby wanted!!! (And I'm saying that cause I love you!)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:22 pm
My bottom line - take what opportunities life can offer, as long as it isn't hurting anyone. Are there all these women now suffering because Stuart married Natasha instead of them? maybe my view is different as there have been a number of murders here. When the women want to leave, the men arent too happy about it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:31 pm
There are also a lot of murders where couples are the same age. As I mentioned earlier, if Natasha's husband was possessive I don't think he would want her to go on a show like America's Next Top Model. He sounded very supportive when she spoke with him on the phone. It wasn't like he wanted her to quit and come home.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:36 pm
Plus sized models on the cover of Vogue? Hello-o-o-o Has anyone seen the last two issues? Two very well-rounded women on the covers.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 9:39 pm
My first husband was exactly my age, no older, no younger, same birthday even. And, boy, he was real creepy. LOLOL
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:30 pm
I wandered off and came back too late to edit prev post. how can anyone form an opinion that is not biased? EXACTLY!! we all are shaped by how we were raised, what we have witnessed in our lives and How we perceive a situation/ comment, sometimes body language/ mannerisms which we have been trained to observe on the job. Why does my opinion have to be the 'wrong' one just because no one agrees with it? I've been right many times in the past (real life) when the majority is all on the opposite page. I have no problem being an outsider/not part of the pack. and my opinion is Natasha seems fake and the relationship, as portrayed on the show, seems suspect. . Actually, I'm with Alisons way back a few posts. in a news documentary on the fighting at kosovo/ Georgia I remarked to friends that many of the men were very attractive. Someone said that I bet that any of those guys would be happy to leave their country for a Woman who offered marriage in Canada. That got us all discussing the issue. Why do people do stuff like that? Desperation to get out of the country.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 01, 2007 - 10:34 pm
There are also a lot of murders where couples are the same age Jimmer, I am referring directly to women who have come from other countries, alone no families, who then try to leave. Of course there are ordinary murders but they are not of the same caliber as a woman basically trapped in a foreign country who has no real options than to stay with a guy or be in fear of her life if she leaves. This is a HUGE problem here on the west coast Canada. not mail order brides, but arranged marriages from their home country.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 4:52 am
There was just a show on TV about husbands and wives murdering each other, it was "''Til Death Do Us Part." Makes me glad I'm single! I have never heard of anyone being murdered by their cats, which is good, since I have 6! I keep thinking that Natasha is getting the "going home" edit, and then she ends up with good pictures! So I am surprised for that reason that she is still there. Usually with this show you can tell who is in the running to go home just by who they spend time on - except for the "evil one", of course - there is always one bioytch who gets a lot of camera time and stays until close to the end (cough, Renee, cough). I wonder how they will get rid of Jaslene? It is clear that they do not think that she has the right "personality" to be a top model - too awkward and puppy dog friendly - but she is so photogenic. It will probably be another one of those - "her eyes look dead" type things. 
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 6:46 am
Sunshyne, nobody said you have the "wrong" opinion. I respect your years of experience of working with people and learning to interpret through body language, facial expressions, gestures, tension and tone of voice, so that can really "hear" what they're saying. Hell, I have to do that every time I talk to anyone, because as you know already, I have profound hearing loss, and I use all clues given to me to communicate. I was just surprised at some of your snap judgments, some very harsh, that you make of people on a reality TV show. The editors try to manipulate their audience to increase the drama. Without the editing, these shows would probably be pretty boring. You're right on with naive women coming to North America expecting a gold mountain and then being kept emotionally and financially captive (perhaps with the threat of violence) by their husbands. But it is a generalization that it happens all of the time - it is what makes the news. Lately it's Canadians getting killed in Mexico that has made the headlines. I remember when it was German tourists in Florida. Still love Natasha. She's so funny about how she answers to criticism. Remember at the last panel when Tyra joked that you could tell Natasha that she took the worst picture, and Natasha would probably say, "Thank you, next week I will try to do worse!" LOL Alisons, Natasha may have been getting the "going home" edit because they want you to believe that. And then Surprise! she gets the underdog story. For all we know, Renee is getting "Eva-fied" - meaning they're making her the ultimate bioytch now and then she'll start getting the softer edit, and come out the winner. Maybe Jaslene will get the she's "not progressing" anymore story. It's happened on past shows - a girl does really well from the start and the judges praise her, then they suddenly start criticising that she's still taking good pictures, but gee, she's just not getting better, and at this point in the competition they should have been seeing more progress and changes from the beginning.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 7:51 am
"I met my DH online..I wonder if that makes me a mail order bride" Pamy, that makes you and E-Mail order bride!
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Aahlife
Member
08-06-2005
| Monday, April 02, 2007 - 8:20 am
Sunsshyne4u, you have hit a nerve with me. My husband is almost 20 years older than myself, and yes he is wealthy. I was considered beautiful ( I have aged now), but I also was considered talented and owned a business. We are deeply in love, and been happily married for many years. I object to the judging going on regarding large age gap unions. When I was younger and our age gap was more apparent, we would encounter people like you who would judge us by appearances only, and it isn't respectful, and is a form of prejudice.
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