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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Friday, March 07, 2008 - 6:37 pm
Good points, Max!
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Monday, March 10, 2008 - 8:51 am
Tonight!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, March 10, 2008 - 5:47 pm
This is cracking me up. Zach keeps talking about himself in the third person. LOL Oh, and of course he had to clean the house before his new gf came over.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, March 10, 2008 - 7:16 pm
I missed it! Zach has a girlfriend?
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, March 10, 2008 - 7:38 pm
Yes! His first! Twiggy, tape it when its on later tonight!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, March 10, 2008 - 7:55 pm
Max, good post. I thought the end judgement was correct. They couldn't prove the impaired driving but Matt admits to driving a vehicle he couldn't properly control and he deserves to be charged for that. I can't help feeling there was a lot missing in the name of creative editing. Matt refused a breathalyzer so I was expecting to hear testimony on just HOW this test is inaccurate for dwarfs. Does Matt have a legitimate reason to doubt this test? A formal (or even informal) study? If he has zero factual reason to refuse then it sorta backs up the officers side. Not saying he didn't have reasons just that they didn't shine any light on them. PS Are there any repercussions for a jury so arrogant(or dumb) that they listen to a judge's simple instructions then promptly turn around and defy them and so dumb (or arrogant) that they let the judge know?
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 3:08 am
Yes, Zach has a girlfriend, just in the early stages, but he did tell the camera that while previously he thought he'd only consider marrying another LP, he now would consider marrying an average height woman. It was cute how he cleaned the bathroom upstairs and got really upset that Jacob then went and kept using that bathroom.. he went back in and said there was pee on the seat and re cleaned it. Rissa, Matt didn't just distrust the test, he distrusted that officer, who refused to let him explain anything but just stated that Matt was impaired. When they got to the station he offered to take a test if they would let someone else administer it but that was refused. Also in the trial as shown on the show, the defense attny stated and had the officer testify that for some reason he only gave one part of the EYE test and chose not to give the other or any of the other tests and what he chose to give wasn't very accurate. Anyway the judge had listened to all the testimony and he didn't hesitate for a minute to dismiss that charge. Matt did get to explain that while he and Amy are close in height, she has the longer torso and shorter legs, but since he is a different type of LP, his legs are longer, so in his car, the pedals are extended 4 inches less than Amy's are. In trying to drive her car, the pedals were 4 inches too high, so he had to push the seat back so his feet could hit the pedals but that meant that he had to lean forward to drive. I also wondered about that jury, if anything was done. They showed the judge VERY clearly telling them to stay off the internet and not watch TV or read papers, not to investigate anything about the defendant. It almost sounds like they wanted to continue their deliberations to the second day so they could go research, which is definitely a no-no. I suspect it wasn't the entire jury that misbehaved and thus one of the other jurors reported it because it troubled them. They didn't show the judge talking to the jury, they just showed Matt's attorney coming to him and saying we have this situation.. the judge had explained to the attorney about the jury misbehavior and this left them with a likely mistrial and then having to wait for a new jury trial (Matt had originally chosen the jury feeling it was a "jury of his peers" and that he was wanting to be open about this) .. the attorney said he didn't know if the judge would allow them to change their original decision and ask for a court decision by the judge, but they could try. Matt said this had been so stressful on the whole family that he wanted to get it over, so he was willing to let the judge decide.
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 4:52 am
Well Matt just proved why you never take a breathalyzer test if you have had any alcohol at all. The breathalyzer would have been proof that he had been drinking. Since there was no physical proof the Judge had only the officer's impairment rating system to rely on and he said that was only 77% accurate. 77% accurate is not beyond a reasonable doubt and he had no choice but to find him not guilty.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 12:53 pm
Actually, Frogi, Matt testified that he'd had one Corona earlier in the evening at home. I've always heard that if you know you are not impaired, refuse the breathalyzer and insist on a blood test. Much harder to alter those, apparently.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 3:03 pm
Not to mention that as time passes the score is lower, and they don't have you pee into a container by the side of the road.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 3:40 pm
I liked how he confessed to his kids that he was going to have to rethink his whole idea of him and alcohol.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 8:24 pm
Zach has really grown up even since last season 20 years for Matt and Amy I love this show but the house, OMG it makes me cringe
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 6:19 am
RFLOL Stacey. While we were watching my 11 yr dd said to me.. "Look at their house and they allow it on TV, why does ours have to be clean?" I tried explaining to her that mommy would have a stress-induced stroke if I had to sit on the couch and look around at all that mess all day. Don't think she cares. I would LOVE to know how long those garbage bags of dirty laundry are going to spend in the basement and how bad they will smell when finally opened. LOL
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 12:57 pm
It does sort of seem unfair that Amy's got that wonderful remodel and it looks like a bunch of burglers have tossed the place. At least Zack had enough pride to straighten and clean before his new girlfriend got a load of the mess. Of course, if I had to walk a mile in Amy's shoes, who knows what my house would look like.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 1:52 pm
Yep.. I'm a terrible housekeeper with no kids and much longer legs than Amy has!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 8:30 pm
It would make me nuts I am not in her shoes, but the great thing about Amy is nothing stops her, she is a go getter at all except the house cleaning!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 11:31 pm
She's that for sure.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:22 pm
I think the real problem, as I see it, is that the kids are being raised in a pigpen and will make horrid husbands and wife. Except, maybe for Zack, as he did show some initiative in cleaning the house for his company.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 4:49 pm
It was nice to see Zach care what people might think of that house and try to fix it. You know there are many not so great house keepers (me, I am bit obsessive about mine) but the majority of those people would pick up for a TV crew coming to show America your life!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 6:21 pm
I hate to put it all on Amy. I completely understand how having 4 babies and toddlers would take up your day and Matt may not be capable of pitching in at the end of the day. But at some point the kids became mobile and responsible and could coordinate all five fingers. LOL If they were required to just pick up after themselves and then spend a meesly five minutes on common areas? At least three of them are old enough to do a load of laundry once in awhile. All four are old enough to make their beds and get their personal stuff out of common areas. What I don't get is why don't they just hire someone to come in once a week and (for example) get the laundry done? I am sure they could afford it, especially now with the show in its third season. I'm NOT a clean freak and my house is not pristine by anyones standards but that level of disorder is beyond what I could handle. It stresses me out LOOKING at it on TV, can't imagine living in it. LOLOL
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 6:28 pm
Ya, why don't they either MAKE the kids clean up after themselves OR hire a cleaning lady?
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 6:35 pm
I agree with that why don't they? But, the fact that they don't make the kids is put back on Amy as well, IMO, who doesn't ever make their kids clean up anything? Matt has offered on the show to get help and she says no. I don't get it and it is stressful to look at, holy cow at that laundry he ran down stairs!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Thursday, March 13, 2008 - 7:07 pm
True Stacey, good points. They aren't doing their children any favours by not instilling some pride in their home. Its really disrespectfull to the work it took to raise the money that went into that home not to maintain it better. It was just last year that Matt went to great lengths to remodel the boys bedrooms and look at how gratefull they are? But to be brutally honest, its par for the course to be teaching their children to take them for granted... after all, look at how Matt treats his parents. I know that sounds rough and while I do mean it, I am also very fond of this family. LOL
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:13 am
Thank you Julieboo.............4 kids big enough to help out. They are old enough to clean up after themselves, not giving them responsibilities is of no help in the maturation process. This kids have wonderful parents and a good life. I wish I would clean up after 4 teenagers.....not in this lifetime.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:33 am
I don't think growing up in a messy home dooms these kids to being "horrible" spouses, for goodness sakes! Frankly, I'd rather be married to a sloppy person than an anal retentive one who can't sleep if there's a dirty dish in the sink or has a coronary if the laundry isn't folded perfect. Why not have a housekeeper? Maybe Amy doesn't want someone in there messing with her household. It doesn't make a whole lot of senses to me either as I think they can afford it. But truth be told, I could afford it too, but I don't want someone in my house when I'm not there. I can tell you from personal experience that having a messy bedroom as a teenager does in no way indicate you will live like a pig as an adult. You could barely walk from the door to my bed as a teen. I had stuff piled every where. It was my stuff to do as I pleased. My mother did all my laundry. Am I a total slob now? No. My household isn't spotless, but it is not a sty either. We always have clean clothes to wear. So I think doing all the cleaning for the kids is ideal? No way. I have no idea why my mom did it all for us. I think maybe becuase it was just easier to do it herself. Maybe she felt it was her "job". I hope to enlist my daughter to help do the house chores. But if she wants to keep her room messy, that will be her choice.
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