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Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, May 10, 2007 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, can you give an example of a story that Natasha has changed?

I have no idea what you are talking about. Was I in the house? why would I have a story when the girls never gave specific examples? We are watching the same show eh?

A couple of the girls were talking on the show and said that Natasha was changing her stories. Guess you missed those conversations between the girls.

If I recall correctly, one time was when they were out and natasha was sick at home.

anyways, natasha has had tons of breaks this season. Botching the Go-see, whispering thru that Dance, being coached with more compassion thru the photoshoots, jumping in the pool with Jael during that Producer Meeting/ party. Never has she been taken to task for her failures.

Just explaining my point.....Night all.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Yup, I agree that Nat never changed a story on screen. I don't understand why people would think that.

Nat is my favorite. I'm not so sure I'd open up to these girls either they seem immature and catty....like Nat I wouldn't trust them or invest emotionally.

My favorite part was when Tyra was telling Nat that since everyone in the house is against her they have to take that into consideration but ended that speech with But it's probably because they are jealous. LOL The looks on the others faces was priceless.

Snuzzling up to the phone was a bit tough to watch...it should have been done in private but that's not going to happen considering the nature of the show. I doubt she called the camera person over more likely they saw the snuzzling and went to shot it. I know when I need a husband fix I'd settle for doing it in front of the camera too just to hear his voice.

I get the feeling that Nat is the judges favorite.

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ETA...I think that Nat's language skills are just as good or maybe better than a few of the others.

Cindy
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09-20-2005

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 6:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cindy a private message Print Post    
The one thing that confused me to some extent is the whole set up during the evaluations. They allowed Natasha to defend/respond to the other girls' comments yet they didn't put her on the spot and ask her to identify anyone as not being top model material.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
Remember, we don't see everything on this show and the other two girls (besides Renee) have been pretty fair in their judgements of the other girls. I'm thinking there is some validity to want they are saying.

Plus Nat just kind of creeps me out. I don't care how much I miss my man, I would not have done what she did in front of the camera.

I may not like Renee's personality but she looks like a model all the time - not just at a photo shoot.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
What would have happened if Natasha went first in the judging? Would they have called her back to respond to the others? So, I think they were tipped as to what was going on and chose Natasha last to allow a chance to respond.

IF you think about it, Natasha had the most time to prepare an answer.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
With Natasha, she may have genuinely not known that kangaroos meant Australia and that's where we are going. Photos of her looke great usually, but "in person" for her confessionals I think she always looks, not so good.

I can't wait to see Jay Manuel host Canada's Next Top Model, I think he is going to do a killer job.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I think Natasha was doing the phone canoodling fully for the benefit of the other girls. I think she gets a kick out of causing them to spazz-out over her antics. She said as much herself when she was giggling that "they are watching her all the time." I like her, a lot, and I hope she's in the final two. Of course we can only go with what we are shown and how she is edited, but I respect her rather than suspect her for keeping her private life to herself. For all we know, she may be telling endless stories about Stuart and their child, and maybe she is being edited to look good. But going on what I see, her non-disclosure is fine with me. And she's just so freaking charming! One thing though, she's gotta get control of those lips - Lol. I always thought the same thing about model Esther Canadas - she is so beautiful, but she just has such big lips that it looks like she's purposely puckering them most of the time.

Jas is okay, but she's so awkward in person. I was glad to see Dionne go - hated her attitude, and I don't think her scowly-face had anything to do with her eyebrows - she doesn't know how to "smile with her eyes", as Tyra puts it. It's pretty simple - widen your eyes, don't squint, and raise your brows a little.

I suppose Renee could win, but I don't like her. I just loved how she preached that Brittany was using her memory impairment "as a crutch" - as if she hasn't been acting all, poor me, young penniless mother all along as a crutch!

If Natasha doesn't win, then I hope Jaslene does.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
Ditto Jo!

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, the reason I directed the question about Natasha's changing stories to you is because in your above post (May 10, 3:08 am) you stated "She keeps changing her stories? I can see where the others think she isnt telling the whole story."

I heard the conversations between the girls in the last episode saying she changed her stories. Your posting made me think you had heard some changed stories, too. Guess you were just taking their word for it, eh?

Zummat
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01-31-2006

Friday, May 11, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zummat a private message Print Post    
I like Renee but I think her chances to win are slim to none because she's blond and beautiful. I think they will pick one of the other two for this year.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 12:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
yes I always base my comments on the show itself. Dont read extra interviews or potential spoilers until AFter it ends LOL

Natasha was doing the phone canoodling My question is....where were her Hands!!? if I recall correctly she put her hand up for a min and back 'down' it went.

Still cant believe she didnt do it for 'camera time' and 'attention'.

I really have no idea whom will win and it's kinda bugging me. I usually think I have it figured out.

renee = they'll say she's too old.
Jaslene = they'll say she has 'one look'
natasha = they'll say she requires much coaching but makes up for it with 'sparky' personality.

I think that she may win due to snowing the judges. Eva did it as well and won.

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
But Renee all along used her missing her children, as others did, all through the show. With Brittany she was able to do the first acting challenge (memorizing lots of lines) without an issue. Brittany even said she would have that challenge in the bag because it was something she loved. Then when it came to the commercial she all of a sudden had a memory loss issue. Which really didn't even come into play because they were using cue cards. That's why Renee made that comment.

Aussiedeb
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07-05-2004

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aussiedeb a private message Print Post    
Renee has definitely been using her position as a poor mother bit.. She even put in pics of her baby in the go-sees they did, to get extra brownie points with the one designer. Now that is manipulation.

Out of the 3 left I still want Natasha to win it. Jaslene would not make a good spokesmodel for Covergirl and Renee is too hard looking.. To me she looks like a guy in drag.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 10:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Natasha is harder to understand than Jaslene, so if they base votes on speaking well as spokesmodel Renee will win. I still want Jaslene to win

Justavice
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11-22-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Justavice a private message Print Post    
They are running a marathon of the season right now on VH1. The first episode is half way through. Interesting to go back and watch. In the first half hour, Natasha told the girls all about her husband.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    

quote:

I suppose Renee could win, but I don't like her. I just loved how she preached that Brittany was using her memory impairment "as a crutch" - as if she hasn't been acting all, poor me, young penniless mother all along as a crutch!



I don't see this as a "crutch" for Reneee. she is not using it as an excuse for not doing well at challenges and shoots, (if anything it lit a fire under her) which is what Brittany was doing


quote:

Renee has definitely been using her position as a poor mother bit.. She even put in pics of her baby in the go-sees they did, to get extra brownie points with the one designer. Now that is manipulation.



Other than putting the pics in her book, how has she used this? It certainly hasn't made the judges or the other girls more sympathetic (and I think the viewing public is just sick of hearing it). I certainly don't think she'll win based on being a mom. Regarding the baby pictures, more power to her, she found out some facts about the designer and used it to her advantage to make more of an impression.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Just another thought - has any past winner had children when they won? I don't think so. Not that it should come into consideration, but I think that it is interesting that 2 out of 3 are married with children this time.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Oh and I am in the Jaslene camp. Of the 3, she has been the most vocal about wanting this with all her being. The judges even made the comment that "what would happen to her emotionally if she didn't get it", which I don't get the comment. They want the girls to 'want it' and when one of them is passionate about modeling, they question it. Silly.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 5:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I wanted to comment on Brittany's memory problems...

I have trouble with memory and get often confused because of having lupus -(yes that explains it all, people!! lol). I believe it is far easier to remember things when you have someone interacting and cueing you, as opposed to being the lone person that everyone is focusing on. I didn't have a physical head trauma, but I find my memory comes and goes. Some days I feel great and everything is crystal-clear, while other days I couldn't tell you what I was thinking five minutes ago. Also, sometimes the pressure to come up with information causes my mind to shut down like a steel trap.

Anyways, I lost all respect for Brittany after her diatribe when she was late after her go-sees. That was really tacky and unprofessional.

Jasper, I made that comment because Renee was constantly bringing up her baby (so to speak) in a way that made her seem as if she was more needy and deserving than the others. It wasn't so much as a "crutch", (I was wrong in comparing it to that), but as a way to make herself look like a martyr, like someone who deserves good things for all she has had to give up.

I still want Natasha to win, but if not, then Jaslene. I really like Jas for her enthusiasm and energy. She does need to improve a little on her grammar to make herself more presentable. Sometimes her speech is harder to understand than Natasha's.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 6:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
jodied...i know exactly what you mean re memory and lupus. i have the same patterns. my situation is a bit more complicated because i did have a brain injury, too.
and you might be right about brittany. the stress of acting solo and on cue might have been too difficult a task, while interacting with another is a bit more playful and thereful less stressful.
i still wasn't pleased with her behaviour re the taxi. but even that situation might have caused a brain injury stress meltdown. i've been there

Dfng
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08-04-2005

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 2:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dfng a private message Print Post    
I didn't know that about lupus. My sister has it really bad, it's attacking her major organs (bladder and kidney) and now my 13 year old niece has been diagnosed with the condition.

So I'll take what Brittany said at face value.

Still don't like Jas. She has one look and it's hard. She seems like a nice person and you can tell that she wants it bad but wanting it does not equate to deserving it for me.

Go Renee.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 2:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Those autoimmune diseases (lupus, MS, etc.) affect every person differently. I know people with MS who have made the same comments about it affecting their ability to concentrate.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 4:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
Wow, it's so refreshing to read of other's awareness of lupus. Most of the time people look at me blankly when I mention it. I had a friend burst out in tears because she thought I was terminal, and many more people who act as if I use the disease as an excuse when I feel so tired I can barely leave my bed, let alone my apartment. I think a celebrity is going to have to come down with it before people know much more about lupus, like Montel Williams and MS.

Dfng, I have major kidney damage from lupus as well. I have to be on prednisone for it. And you're right, Alisons, about it affecting people differently. Even with one individual it can affect them differently per flare-up. I remember though, with my first flare-up, (I wasn't diagnosed until my second) I was always so frustrated with my inability to concentrate and remember, and I said to my brother, "I am getting dumber by the day." It is scary not to know how a disease or head injury will affect you day-by-day, but scarier still when you don't know what's happening in the first place.

I am always so thrilled when lupus is mentioned in the media, as it heightens people's awareness of just that much more. I loved it when my favourite character on The Shield (Claudette) came out with having it.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
A dear family friend had lupus and I saw first hand how horrible that disease is. SHe had the kind that would make big sores appear on her face and hands. She lived with it for years and tried to never complain, God love her. She passed away 2 days before my son was born but I know she still shines down upon us.

(((Jodi))) I thought we had a lupus thread in the health area here, I know at least 1 other member here has it also.

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 4:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
and...doesn't last year's top model have it also