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Archive through November 29, 2007

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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
I understand what you are saying about Isabeau and her boyfriend, Sunshyne, but when they did the makeover on her, she was very attractive. I agree with other posters they probably edit a lot of what she does/says. Also, she could be very smart and that draws him. I think it's not just the weight, but how and where people meet. If he got to know her at work, it would be different than meeting her in a social place, where men are more attracted to thin women.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
I think you are all forgetting that their are many people who are chubby chasers. Thank goodness for people of all kinds on this planet.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I can honestly say that weight (other than extremes) would generally not be a factor in whether or not I would date someone. The only concern that I would have about weight is if someone I cared about was damaging her health by being hugely under or overweight. There are extremes, of course, and that isn't good for anyone and probably isn't enjoyable.

However, I also like people with lots of energy for life. That can sometimes be hard if a person is over or under weight, though there are people like that who have a lot of energy.

(I know that the above may be impossible for some people to believe but that is truly the way that I feel)

Incidentally, I don't think that many people around the world share the American "ideal" for very thin women (as shown in modeling or on TV). Some men prefer fuller figures.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I'm not saying Bill's weight loss is fishy. I'm saying the fact that they don't mention it is fishy(his percentage not his total loss).

Wowprincess
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09-04-2006

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 7:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wowprincess a private message Print Post    
Ketchup - I get what you're saying now, and you're right, I agree with you.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 7:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Aww, B is gone. Loved his family and their joy!!!!

Stillett0401
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08-06-2007

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stillett0401 a private message Print Post    
Awwww, the red team is gone.

Holly
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06-19-2005

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Well maybe some people just CAN'T keep themselves in shape. Who are we to judge why anyone is overweight? Anyway, I'd rather deal with an overweight person who had a happy, kind, and easygoing personality any day of the week than a "normally" sized over-judgemental and over-opinionated p.i.t.a! Life's too short!

Meggieprice
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07-09-2001

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meggieprice a private message Print Post    
I myself feel that prejudice against overweight is the one prejudice allowed to continue mostly unchallenged. People are blamed, ridicule, discriminted against, and considered "extremely gross". I would love to see that changed.

One of the reasons it is a hard one to change is that the overweight dislike themselves . It is sad.

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Bye Kim!

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
LOL Nick

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Dear Kim

It's not about you

Funfit4life
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03-16-2006

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Funfit4life a private message Print Post    
now its about the poor black team, the victims of injustice who were undeservedly denied an opportunity to be on the blue or red team. But alas! rising from the ashes, blossoming into a rose from concrete, are the members of the not as thin as everyone else, but certainly a strongly bonded group, the cinderella team, wearing black..

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
LOL ketchup. I finally have figured out why I dont like Kim and find her not credible. It is her tone of voice (and those big boobs).

Mostly her tone of voice.

*************

Anyone besides me crack right up at the scene after B got home, was in the kitchen cooking something on the stove and he says something like 'Since being healthy I've got lots more testosterone'.

His wife behind him looking in the fridge mumbles tiredly "too much testosterone!"

Oh, by the way...notice that they didnt fly him back for a weighin like Kae.

Wonder why they did that especially for her?

hmmmmm

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 4:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
meggie I completely understand what you mean. the discrimination is obvious in day to day life IMHO.

however, as someone who has seen both sides I have to say that weight is often self-inflicted. Shows like the Biggest Loser prove that 'what goes into the body, stays on the body'.

Instead of simply giving us commercials about products, I would love to actually see what these people are eating and quantities.

Everyone has different standards of what is overweight and what is obese. Like I said earlier, most people are very forgiving of a few extra lbs 20-40. it is quite normal for women in my age bracket to be 'plump'.

When people get really large, it is hard to imagine that they got that way from eating skinless chicken and big salads with lemonslices instead of dressing.

People get fat from eating too much and not moving around.

People get water retention and bloating (not FAT!!) from some medical conditions and quite a few drugs.

I myself can put on 20lbs in two days thx to prednisone.

I can go along with the concept that Overeating is a disease condition IF we agree that a propensity to become an alcholic is also a disease.

If we call it a compulsion- emotional or compulsive overeating- then could be a mental disorder which can be fixed.

People who are depressed often gain weight.

This is a tough world to live in. Reality states that everyone should strive to be younglooking and fit. This is unrealistic for many people.

Therein lays the problem. A person will not be 'okay' with themselves if they feel pressure to change.

I myself remember very well what it was like to work out on those machines on B.L.

However, physically I can barely do two leg lifts with NO weight and I'm in pain.

YES, I feel pressure from society to be thinner. NO I do not hate myself for being the way I am due to the fact I KNOW it is genetic.

Self acceptance is the key.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Funfit4life - LOL at your statement, but I think they are thin looking - and I cant wait till they get rid of Neil - watch it neil!!

Sunshyne - thank you so much for sharing and giving us insight!! Have you heard that Lenord Nemoy,aka Spock has done a great pictorial? He's into photography and was on the radio talk show I listen to, he was approached by a "BBW" and asked if he considered photographing "real women" It became a journey for him, and he is so pleased with all the results, and all the models, and the look at society and media!!

and yes I did get the "too much testerone" and roflol!! Good Point on Kae vs B - I wondered if they were even going to show B!! I never liked Kim's attitude, but I figure it was partly due to editing, and partly due to her trying too hard as the newbie -

I quite liked the Black team as I really like Jillian, I think there is a lot more to her than meets our tv eyes!!

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Reader & Sunshyne:



If you Google Leonard Nimoy Photography there are tons of his pix on his website, many of them nudes.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Well, so much for my theory that the live update would be a regular thing from this point on. Kae deserves a special measure of applause for what she achieved but it's sort of odd that they devoted a whole live *unveiling* to her. Can't wait to see her on the finale.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
What Kae was accomplishing during her time at the ranch deserved the special attention. You could tell that Bob was just overjoyed around her and her attitude. Frankly, I think that she's more of a winner than anyone else on the ranch right now. I have no doubt that she will keep the weight off.

I just want Neil to go home. If he wins the million with all the game playing, I'll be very upset.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
interesting photo.

the women all look miserable and not confident IMHO

I am going to check out Spock's site. LOL I love photography.

okay, I'm back....FULL BODY series? Those women were all obese. I would have expected a more balanced approach and varying weights.

I would consider those women way more than full bodied. The classic Paintings have rubenesque Full Bodied women. I just dont know what to say about those photographs. I didnt find that they were done to glorify the body.

Mind you, maybe it was just a study.

That I can understand. Have done them in ART class.

anyways, just my opinion done with my personal biases.



Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 2:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Suzy lost 41.85%

It took me awhile but I found Suzy's values. I know she did better than Kae and I stated I was wondering why they made such a fuss at her weightloss. When they said she was the first woman to lose so much, I didnt agree.

Mind you, Maybe that value was at the finale??

I'll have to research some more.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
$1 mil. seriously??? wow I didn't know the prize was that much!!!

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
I don't think the above women look miserable at all.

I never understood why this show doesn't show more of what and how they are eating. I've come to the realization that every season it gets more and more dissapointing.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Boberg a private message Print Post    
Susnhyne4u, Yes that total for Suzy was at the finale show of her season.

Suzy:
Starting weight: 227
Finale weight: 132
Total lost: 95
Percentage lost: 41.85%


When Kae returned for the live weigh in last week she had lost over 39%.

Kae has a very good chance of matching or beating Suzy's percentage of weight loss by the time she returns for this years finale.



In fact, these two are a very good comparison. Kae actual starting weight was 225, Suzy's 227.

The BL site is very difficult to navigate and find information....not user friendly when looking for details so I went back and watched my taped episode to get the actual starting weights and now have made the correction in Kae's weight. Also I believe Isabeau's starting weight was higher than I had said in my previous post...I believe it was closer to 290 than 270.

Kae has done an awesome job and is on the way to setting a new finale record of weight loss for the the females!

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Wasn't the rumour that Suzy and Matt used amphetamines of some sort to help with their weight loss after they left the ranch? I just remember their truly bizarre behaviour at the live finale. I also seem to remember some article about using sauna's for hours on and off for the entire day before the finale and diuretics use.

Oops, just looked it up. It was Kai with the diuretics and sauna Where are they now?: The article went on to say that last season’s runner-up winner, Kai Hibbard, consumed only sugar-free Jello and asparagus for several days along with jumping in and out of a sauna for six hours prior to the final weigh-in. That leaves Suzy and Matt with the original rumour and their bizarre behavior. I can see that the show would not want to celebrate that if they had knowledge of game playing behind the scenes and how they WOULD want to celebrate Kae doing it right.