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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:12 am
I think the comment about not doing dishes was meant to be funny. She was on the cooking detail, and when the others were talking about the cooks should have done the dishes, she said, "I am on the yellow team, I don't do dishes." Doing the dishes was the labororer's responsibility. As far as their vocubulary, I have 4 grandchildren ranging from 8 to 15, I also have several great neices and nephews in that age range. I can assure you that any one of them could match anything the kids on the show said. Kids are a lot smarter than people sometimes think. The thing that impressed me was the choice between the extra outdoor tolits and the TV set. To me there was no question, but to have the kids just overwhelmingly choose the tolits showed that these are smart kids. LOL
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:19 am
So what is a tolit? (I haven't seen the show yet)
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:21 am
I liked it a lot. My 10 yr old, Scotty, loved it! He wants to be on it. I said "are you sure? It looks like a lot of hard work and not much playing". He said he doesn't care, he still wants to go. Now, he's just a kid from the suburbs, and we have no pets. Maybe I should ask him again, not sure what he would do about the goats and chickens! I do think Jimmy was too young to be there, but gosh was he ever a cutie! And being smart enough to know you're too young - wow. Good show, we'll watch next week.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:28 am
Julie - an outhouse. They only had one (for 40 kids) to start.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:11 am
Allie, I think Taylor's comment on the dishes was "I'm a beauty queen, I don't do dishes." Not "I'm on the yellow team...." At least, that's what my closed captioning chose to tell me she said. CC has been known to be wrong before so.... The skeptic side of me wonders if there are child actors amongst the bunch too. Some of the promos especially had a scripted feel to it for me, but I thought I'd wait till I saw the whole scene around those clips before I decided for sure. And besides, with all other reality shows chocked full of wanna be actors and models, its not a far stretch to have the child version of a reality show full of wanna bees too.
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:11 am
Allie, I'm not sure that the toilets were an "overwhelming" choice. I got the idea there might have been some discussion about it. But in the end . . . . Smart kids. I was going to ask -- the first outhouse was a true outhouse? But I wasn't sure because of something said if the additional ones they won were also real outhouses or more like port-a-potties in disguise?
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:41 am
I thought it was a given that the kids all have acting aspirations...how else would they have heard about the casting for the show? Maybe some were recruited but I'm fairly certain that if any of these kids were given a sit com or movie script they'd grab it up. Your CC was correct.....she did say I"M A BEAUTY QUEEN, I don't do dishes. It was a bit snotty. I'm still a bit hung up and put off by the graffiti. I woinder how the older kids would have ended up acting had the gold star 20K not have been introduced. I think we would have seen a totally different society. Was I seeing things....I thought I saw a town jail? Did anyone else see that?
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 9:46 am
Sorry about the double post. Went back and did some updates on it without realizing I had already posted it. Big spelling error. LOL I know there was some discussion about the toilets, but once the decision was made, most of the kids seemed pleased with the choice. That was what I meant. If there was serious disagreement, they did not show it. I had to laugh at Mike when he suggested the TV because they were all dying for something to do. Then he laughed at himself and said something to the effect that who was he kidding, it was him who wanted to watch TV. About Taylor's comment, I could have heard it wrong also. Queen and team sounds a lot alike when you are listening to talk on a reality show. But I still think it was meant to be funny either way, just from her expression, and the fact that she had worked as hard as any of them. I think she also realized it fell flat as a joke. There may be some child actor wantabees in the group. That would be a natural thing. Anytime there is going to be an audition for a TV show, you are going to have people who see opportunities. It could also be like a girl in my grandson's piano recital group. She has done some local little theater work and is loaded with chrisma, but she is not a professional actress. But if she got a chance to do something like this with national exposure, she would probably jump at it. I would really have no problem with that. I suspect it is more that the producers realized to make this show work practically and be entertaining, they were going to have to have at least some very smart, very articulate, and very mature kids. And that would be what they were looking for in the auditions.
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:25 am
I may be the only one but i didn't like sophia much at all. i mean, she's a kid.....so i'm not saying anything mean here. just that i think she likes the attention.....that's what makes her dance for $$ and complain during the meeting. wish they would've given the star to the boy that calmed all down and gave the nice little speech.....can't think of his name right now. Maybe it was Michael.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:35 am
As for the parents signing away rights to sue, even upon death... well I have signed away my rights to sue upon my daughter's death every time we attend a birthday party at one of those bouncy places! Yes, every parent has to sign away their rights. So, I don't see this aspect as shocking, like the media would have us to beleive. I really enjoyed this show. I like the premise. I liked how the kids all seemed so willing to work hard. And yes, I agree, they are mostly actor wanna-be's -- I'm sure that it was mostly people already in the biz or wanting to be that even heard about casting calls. Isn't that the way reality TV works these days?
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:36 am
Oh, and instead of greying out the entire picture of the kids who voluntarily leave, maybe their name could be greyed out or made a different color?
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:37 am
I know what you mean, Laneesmom, but they talked about how hard she worked and she was the one who took over the first night and saw to it that they had something to eat. They must have really thought she deserved it because they gave it to her even though she critized them. That alone told me that she probably did a lot more than they showed on the show. And you have to hand it to her, she did speak up when asked if anyone was not happy with the leadership. Most of the kids were probably too timid or scared to speak their minds. Even if she was wrong, at least she did not sit back and talk about them behind their back. She spoke up and that got a discussion going. I think the dancing for money was clever. She is a very smart, very innovative person, with a strong personality. She is probably going to cause waves, but she will probably also have a lot to offer.
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 11:45 am
It never occurred to me that any of the kids may be actors. I feel sorta stupid now, lol. I didn't get to go to camp as a kid and just think this sounds like an amazing experience. Although I was very concerned about the show exploiting the kids and so wasn't planning on watching it but my friend called and insisted I switch it on. I was somewhat pleasantly surprised, the kids seemed quite real and engaging. But I agree that 15 is probably too old for the show. Shoot, I didn't realize this will against Pushing Daisies. I'm looking forward to that show so I may have to ditch this.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:06 pm
Well, after watching, I decided I would never let my kid do this. But I watched anyway. Also some of the parents have sued, in spite of the contracts and releases. There was some dicussion of that earlier.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:51 pm
When you have 40 children involved in a project this size, there are going to be injuries and unforseen events. There will always be those looking for the big opportunity to cash in on some money. But if a child was seriously injured because of the show's negligence, then the parent's can and should have the right to sue, and have a chnce to win no matter what they signed. As teacher's we always had the parents sign a release for field trups and such, but we knew that that did not excuse us from being careful, and we knew if someone got hurt because we were not doing our jobs, those agreements were not worth the paper they were printed on. But unless the girl who was burned has scars, I do not see where they have much of a case. You know the thing that concerned me the most was the fear of rattlesnakes. I can't imagine that in country like that there aren't snakes. And when those kids were out looking for rabbits, I couldn't stop thinking about it. Is there anyway that the crew could have made sure there weren't any in the area? I just don't see any way.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 12:56 pm
I thought the dancing for money was a bit odd. Not odd that she was doing it, but that they were going along with it. It's hard to believe a child who only gets paid a few cents would give it over to a girl who's just wiggling in the street. Either this was set up, or Sophia really worked harder than they showed and the kids wanted to show their appreciation with the bicycle money. All I can remember her doing on camera was cooking a bad meal the first night, complaining about the young cooks not using the recipe book, and then admitting she was wrong when their meal turned out to be good. They must've left out a lot of what she did. I'm also wondering about all the work that had to be done that first day. They made that long walk pushing those wagons, had to unload and put the animals in their place, and also had to clean up those bunks that were "in disarray" as one child put it. That's an awful lot of work for tired, hungry kids with no adults to guide them. Yet they still somehow were able to get it all done. If these are child actors or aspiring actors, then this should be a great way to make sure they learn some valuable lessons. Instead of being pampered, they'll learn the value of hard work and cooperation. I can think of a few young celebrities who'd likely benefit from this experience.
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Wilsonatmd
Member
01-23-2001
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 1:03 pm
Some people speculate the dancing was just creative editing-that she was trying to get people to put up money to share the bike, not just giving her the money.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 1:45 pm
Sophia did say that some of the kids gave her money just so she would dance "away" from them.
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Callasin
Member
06-21-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 4:31 pm
I watched the show and enjoyed it but I did wonder about a couple of things. The kids must have gone through some sort of orientation before filming because they did so much that first day and were more organized than I expected. I loved Jimmy but he obviously was in over his head. It was so nice when the host let him make his decision to leave and then treated him with respect about it instead of calling him a quitter. Changing the color of the names is a good idea to indicate when someone leaves. Maybe we could have a star put on the pictures of kids who win a star as well.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 4:35 pm
I liked it. I think Taylor's comment about doing dishes was just a reflection of the life she has lived. In so many ways the kids only bring with them what they have been taught at home.
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 4:51 pm
I am puzzled, who is doing all the grunt work in these kids' homes?
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Ahnicka
Member
08-08-2007
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 5:37 pm
I like Jared, his comments are hilarious and coupled with his tone of voice, it just sounds so funny, in a good way. He reminds me of a little Rocky Balboa. Did it look like to anyone else that later on in the show that Taylor had a black eye on her right eye that they covered with make up? There was definitely some color difference (bruising) there. It was in the part of the show starting after the pushing match between Greg and Mike...but I'm not at all saying they did it, but just to give you an idea of when it appeared.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 6:43 pm
housekeepers & lawn services are hired by lots of folks to do the grunt work at home, especially mine. i didn't like it when i was a kid and i hate it even more as an adult.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:31 pm
Ratings weren't too good. Encore Saturday Night.
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Cndeariso
Member
06-28-2004
| Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 8:54 pm
the biggest problem i had was them dumping leftover and/or un-edible food out the door on the ground. that was very unsanitary and will draw flies and vermin. didn't they have garbage cans anywhere? if nothing else they should have either fed it to the goats or dumped it down the outhouse holes.
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