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Starshine40
Member
07-30-2002
| Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:30 pm
My parents were divorced when I was 5 and mom and I went back to where her family lived and there were several farms in the family. The first time I saw a chicken killed I was only 5 and mom had chopped the head off it. It then ran around the yard (for about a minute) and I laughed cause it looked funny to me! When I was older and they were going to butcher a pig I stayed at a far distance but the older boys went closer and wanted the pig's bladder (it blows up like a balloon). I think a kid adapts to what the family does if they raise animals for food then the kids are usually more accepting of it. My grandma had a mean old rooster that used to attack me and grandma heard me cuss it out one time and I said words she didn't know I had even heard from some of my uncles!
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 5:05 am
Thank you Star, it is a Monday morning and I am sleepy. However you comment.... "Grandma heard me cuss it out......" referring to the chicken cracked me up. Now I am wide awake and at my desk at work and you have gotten me off to a very good start of a busy day.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 6:15 am
Someone asked about bios of the kids. Here is a link to bio done by the kids themselves. Lot to read, but looks good so far. http://www.cbs.com/primetime/kid_nation/bio.shtml
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 6:43 am
when i took an agricultural class in high school, there were may times I saw and did things that I never wanted to do. I watch a pig get shot in the head and slaughtered. Those whose parents signed a permission slip were able to actually shot a pig. I also had to castrate several of the male sheep that were for market. man oh man the first time i had to do one i cried, but after doing a few you get used to it. i felt sorry for the little guys. i am sure many of these kids who have worked a farm know how to do or have seen such things. the hard part is that you get attached to the animals then when it comes time to eat what is slaughtered it's like eating a pet.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 10:57 am
Fabulous find, Milosmom! Maybe if I only read a couple a day, I might remember something!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 1:28 pm
I threw the bio link (and also the show link) up above, for future reference.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, October 01, 2007 - 1:33 pm
Thanks, Sea! Very helful instead of trying to remember when a link was posted!
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:36 am
The thing that really made me realize that Greg knew what he was doing was using the hot water to loosen the feathers. I was sitting there wondering if he would know that. If you don't do that, you would never get all the feathers off. I never had to kill the animals, my parents or my older brother always did that, but I have done all the rest, the cleaning, the butchering, and the cooking. I never got attached enough to any animal on our farm to not eat it. We raised everything from rabbits to cattle, and I could eat it all. I guess sometimes it makes a difference if that is all you have to eat. My mother cooked the meals and if we did not want to eat, then we went hungry. There were no late night microwaveable meals back then. LOL Being raised on a farm can work both ways. Didn't the little girl who tried to prevent the killing of the chickens say she lived on a farm? Most of the kids did not want to kill the chickens, but they were realistic enough by that time to realize that they needed protein.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:10 pm
Tonight - tonight - we'll have some fun tonight! You have to supply your own music in your head, but that isn't hard to do!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:18 pm
I think little Emilie did say she lives on a horse ranch. Maybe that's not the same thing as living on a regular farm. I just thought it was odd that after all the protesting and threatening to leave, she just suddenly changed her mind. Her bio is interesting. She seems to have a very good appreciation for herself.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 7:12 pm
I'm glad Mallory got it. Sooo cute she was. I'm fustrated with Greg..I really don't like his language around the kids.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 7:48 pm
Mallory looked and sounded so cute talking to her mom and dad on the phone. They really missed each other. All the kids except one seemed to be very happy for her.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 7:50 pm
Did anything exceptionally exciting happen tonight? (It may be days before I can watch live tv at night due to baseball playoffs)
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 8:44 pm
Naja, nothing shocking happened, but my post contains spoilers.... mild ones... Wow. I'm really not liking Taylor. I tried to give her a break because she's a kid, but she just keeps throwing that "I'm a pageant queen" and I'm better than you attitude around too much. I was glad to see the crowd chanting re-election! It seemed like she was geninuely sorry, until I saw the previews for next week where she seems to be back to her antics. I'm frustrated with Greg as well. He needs to learn to control his temper. I really wonder how much positive feedback and ego stroking he's getting because it seems like he really needs that, needs to hear the kids say how much he's helping out and how close he is to getting a gold star, but I don't think he's getting that feedback. I laughed when I saw the microwave! (I had missed the beginning and didn't see they won it.) I can't believe what a crappy breakfast they got when the yellow team was cooking -- no wonder they wanted pizza! I wonder who cleaned the outhouses after they tipped over. Talk about yuck.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 8:52 pm
Maybe not exceptionally exciting, Naja, but it was still a good episode. The green team finally pulled out of last place and took over the kitchen. The yellow team won the upper class slot. The red team is the labor class. Mallory, the youngest, won the red star. The town now has a 9:30 curfew. Taylor's obnoxious behavior continued, and when she screamed "Deal with it!" one too many times the town decided to do just that. At the town meeting everyone told her off and called for a re-election. She started to cry but then promised to straighten up her act. Oh, and they also had to deal with a freak windstorm that blew over some of the outhouses. I guess it was exciting after all. I'm glad the council decided to take nominations from everyone. That takes some of the heat off of them. I'm not sure Greg was wrong about their reason for choosing Mallory. It was good to show that the young ones can win a star, and it was nice that it was her birthday, but it just didn't feel like an important enough reason to give her the $20,000. It sounded like only one person (her sister) nominated her while everyone else named Greg and Morgan. They could've given it to one of the other nominees and just baked her a birthday cake or something instead. There's bound to be more homesick kids with birthdays before this is over. Greg's behavior was just terrible. Even if he felt ganged up on, he could've responded in a more mature fashion than just cussing people out or calling a little girl a *itch. I hope before this is all over he figures out that he's the one sabotaging his chances for a star, and has a genuine change of attitude.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 8:59 pm
Whoa, it does sound good Thanks Brenda and Curly 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:18 pm
I wish they would do re=election every so often, would be nice to see how others run it. This show is a good learning lesson for my (as of today)12 yr old son. He thinks Taylor is pretty(which she is) I told him now imagine her being your wife.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:50 pm
I loved seeing people lash out at Taylor, and threaten her with a forced re-election of a new council. Too bad about Greg at the start. He was terrible. I can't imagine it's easy for any kid. I think Greg and Taylor have very authoritarian personalities, which is why she seems to vote for him for gold star. The are both like "that's just the way it is, deal with it!", but not everyone likes being dealt with that way. They will learn in time. Maybe not on the show, but one day. Still loved seeing Taylor cry. It's a shame the town didn't go through with their threats. Ummm....don't tell anyone this, but there was some salty discharge coming from my eyes when Mallory was talking to her parents, especially her dad. I'm not sure what the discharge was, but it was accompanied by a lump in my throat. PS - could SOMEBODY get Laurel some chapstick?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:53 pm
PPS - LOL Pamy!!!
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Cinder
Member
09-01-2000
| Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:59 pm
I was glad to see the kids "having fun" and I understand it was probably set up in the saloon to prove the point that order was needed- but I did not like the fact that kids were "slamming" rootbeers. I am guilty of being one of those kids who ate candy cigarettes though- and I LOVE root beer- just noticing behavior that made "me" uncomfortable I do believe their intentions were good- trying to teach kids that structure was needed.
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Christina
Member
08-07-2005
| Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 4:43 am
hahaha I noticed that too Eeyoreslament, almost everyone needs some chapstick. I said that a few times out loud last night. poor things.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 5:34 am
I didn't like the "slamming root beer" in the saloon scene either. I didn't like the image of kids mimicking a drunken out of control gang of partyers. There's just nothing entertaining or funny about drunken behavior anyway, and to see a bunch of children emulating it....well...just didn't like it. Taylor can apparantly dish it but not take it. Too bad the tears worked so well. Something tells me that's not the first time in her life that those tears have enabled her to swing things in her favor. I wonder what would have happened if the Yellow team had become the laborers. Can you imagine the condition of the outhouses then? If beauty queens don't do dishes, you can bet they sure don't do toilets either.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 5:49 am
Mike wanted the TV on the first challenge and the pizza on the second one. I am glad the other three council members can take the long view when choosing! However, I would certainly be more than okay with a certain council member being replaced! She is certainly one good manipulator though!
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Laneesmom
Member
05-12-2005
| Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:00 am
I came here for the reason of the saloon scene too. I did not like that at all. Coming from a family with 2 brothers being alcoholics and myself darn near close at one point (lucky i found my hubby when i did)......it's just NOT cute. I remember around the age of 12 drinking pop out of a bottle and pretending it was booze....I don't know.....I just hated that. I lOVE the show.....but that certainly was a downer for me.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:17 am
I can understand why Greg is feeling like he's not getting credit for his contributions - but, it's his attitude & verbal outbursts that are over shadowing his positive attributes - I hope he realizes this soon & puts the zipper on his lip. As far as Taylor - I just wanted to crawl into my TV & whip her A$$ - any body else feel that way?
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