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Missy2
Member
07-31-2001
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 5:14 am
Its a tough call because we don't see that. We only see their poor behavior towards Marcel. And Ilan is not a nice person no matter what he thinks. Its interesting because I don't like Cliff, Sam or Ilan...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 7:17 am
Well after that article, Ilan dropped even lower. I could see saying/doing some things in the heat of the moment, but he specifically and intentionally told about something that was not aired. Where he (Ilan) was so rude? Whadevah...
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:00 am
Grooch, I'd think the same, but they were the contestants who are based in NY, right? That may be why they were interviewed. I loved those three in the beginning of the series exactly BECAUSE they seemed to stay out of the personal stuff and just focused on the food. It's disappointing to see the group gang mentality, even if I think Marcel is likely legitimately annoying. I wish they'd just focus on the food.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 8:30 am
Marcel is a victim of editing but no one else is? They are starting a new feature on the Bravo site. A sort of behind the scenes blog.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 6:53 pm
No, Ilan just told us of something he said that they kindly edited out for him.. but he didn't have the sense to keep it to himself.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:14 pm
Wow,,,I am shocked over the show tonight. It was scary.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:30 pm
Does anyone wanna share what happened tonight? It's not on here yet, and I'd love for someone to spoil! Please? (Jami????)
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:32 pm
I don't have access to cable tonight, can someone fill us in?
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:35 pm
After the challenge some of them got drunk. Elia and Elan shaved their heads. Thne Cliff went after Marcel, who was sound asleep. He was going to hold him down and shave his head. It was very ugly, in my opinion. Very mush assault. Finally after alot of struggle Marcel was let go. Had rug burns etc. Cliff was sent home.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:37 pm
The quick fire was odd: make a non dessert chocolate dish. Elan's was sauted chicken liver in the center of a blob of chocolate. Yuck. Sam won and got to pick his course for the next challenge. Each was to cook a romantic dish of a 5 course meal.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:38 pm
ELIA shaved her head???? Gak! Was Cliff sent home because he lost the challenge, or because he accosted Marcel?
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:38 pm
Sam chose 1st course: lobster and scallops. Marcel did a salmon. Don't remember what Elan's was. Cliff's was beef. Elia decided to do a dessert. It was mentioned that in a 5 course meal dessert wasn't required. But she thought she'd get extra points for doing one.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:39 pm
Cliff was sent home because of the assault.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:40 pm
Five course romantic meal and there were TWO seafood courses???
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:41 pm
They didn't have judges table that evening. Must have been planned for the next night. So they went back to the apartment and drank. Elia said that she'd always wanted to shave her head at some point and why not now. Elan said if you do it I will. So they did.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:42 pm
Wow. Must've been an interesting show, to say the least. Thanks Jami!
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:45 pm
Then Cliff got all excited and seemed to think they were all in on it and would go shave Marcel. No one helped him,,,but he roughly grabbed a sound asleep Marcel and pushed him off the couch and onto the floor. Actually, looked like what a rape might look like (the beginning of a rape). I was shocked. Marcel yelled for help. It was hard to watch. I was really sad for Marcel. Sam just watched and sort of shruggged. But it had to be terrifying to be asleep and BAM be thrown on the floor like that. Elan was filming it with a camera of some sort. Marcel ended up locking himself in the bathroom for the rest of the night. I don't blame him.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:48 pm
In the first few episodes my favorite were Sam, Cliff, Elan and Betty. I didn't like Marcel at all. But he grew on me. And I got sick of him being talked about and picked on all the time. He may have been hard to deal with,,,but he didnt' deserve to be treated like that. Have lost alot of respect for the others.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:52 pm
Oh I must add that Cliff, the next morning was sorry. And that he behaved well when asked to leave. And that he and Marcel were gentlemen saying good bye.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:58 pm
Here's the scoop: Quickfire challenge -- some French (?) chef -- cook w/chocolate. Sam wins using chocolate in a sauce for something else. Elia does a mole takeoff, but chef said "too much" chocolate in it. However, he LOVED the 'kiss' she did (looked like some kind of ice cream or mouse w/ginger flavors). Elimination Challenge -- cook 5 course meal for romantic diners. Sam got choice of course since he won. Course includes a protein. Sam does first course w/scallops, beets and something else. Next is Ilan -- sorry, honestly have no idea what he did! Next is Marcel -- he did a salmon w/beets and something else (he wanted scallops, couldn't do that since no repeats, so didn't change beets even though he knew Sam used them too) Cliff next w/a sirloin dish -- judges comment that it isn't good (and Padma switches w/Tom b/c hers is too "bloody") Elie ends w/a dessert -- uses similar flavors to quickfire, adds puff pastry and some berries to be topped w/chocolate hearts. She tries to freeze the hearts then can't get them off the baking sheets w/o them breaking. Taste is fine, but the menu said "topped w/hearts" so judges comment on that. After challenge, cooks get a bit goofy and drunk. Elia said she'd shave her head if others did. Ilan goes first -- and zip, there goes his hair. Elia follows suit! She shaves it ALL off (saying she'll only be young once and able to do this). Sam doesn't, Cliff is already bald, so Cliff decides they need to hold Marcel down and shave HIS head. Cliff wakes Marcel and holds him down on floor (looks like a wrestling move). He's trying to get Sam to get the clippers, but Sam doesn't (confessional says - -uncomfortable, awkward moment)...after a few minutes (? - hard to tell how long w/editing), Marcel gets away (hair intact), and goes to sleep on the bathroom floor. Next morning, Chef Tom appears for a "discussion" w/Cliff. He says it clearly states in rules that no aggressive physical contact between contestants is allowed; while he understands they were probably just being silly, it WAS definitely aggressive, and he will have to pack his bags and go. Confessionals w/Marcel and Cliff indicate they left on good terms, wished each other well, and Cliff admits he did a dumb thing. Judges table is a hoot -- Chef Tom tells them about Cliff's leaving, but does NOT tell them about the bald heads. In walk Ilan and Elia with NO hair, and it looks like Gayle and Padma are totally shocked. They finally get around to talking about the food -- and mention Marcel's fish was "nothing exciting" although it tasted good. Elia needed the HEARTS, but again, tasted good. The four leave and judges say they would have sent Cliff home. Many times throughout the night they said how this challenge had some of the top food they've seen. It all tasted good, etc. Since Cliff already left, who should they send on to Hawaii --should another be eliminated? The Final Four come back in -- and Sam and Ilan are immediately told they will be going to Hawaii. Padma then says, "Elia and Marcel -- please pack your knives" BIG PAUSE -- Elia looks teary-eyed -- "because you're going to Hawaii!" Hugs and kisses all the way around; we have our final four. Definitely a show to watch!!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 9:59 pm
Whoops -- sorry. I typed one long one while Jami was doing short ones....amusing that neither of us can remember what Ilan's dish was!
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Beth4freedom
Member
10-24-2003
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 10:05 pm
Thanks for all the info, folks!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 10:17 pm
Thanks! I have it on tape, but haven't watched it yet. Planned on watching it before I came here and my VCR turned back on to tape the 4-hr ALIAS block on TNT. OK HUK ... I was wrong.. I admit it!!! I guessed what they may have gotten in trouble for was some kind of food fight and messing up their super duper kitchen. Obviously, it was far more *shocking* than that! See, I can admit when I'm wrong! LOL I started late to the party for this show and was only getting to know a few of them right before they went home and had been liking some who are acting like jerks now. Darn. It was interesting to come to the board and see how others opinions were about some who initially seemed nice to me but by the time I started watching, you had gotten fed up with them! I want to like who wins and I'm not crazy about any of them anymore. I guess I'd have to pick Elia because she's the least obnoxious, but I think she needs more experience. *sigh*
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 12:56 am
LOL, Watching! Hey, at least you made a guess at what was going to happen, I didn't even have an opinion! This was really more shocking, you're right! Nobody has mentioned what they thought of Elia's bald head...I thought she was beautiful! The wig-like thing with the headband looked really good on her too.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, January 18, 2007 - 4:12 am
If they had sent anyone home it would have been pure crap! I cannot believe that they even considered it (or worse, pretended to), since four were to go to Hawai'i and especially for Marcel to go home because of Cliff's stupid action would have boggled the mind. Anyway it seemed like they all dod a good job. If Marcel was correct and the person before him used all the burners then I'm sure he had plenty of stress, bummer. I guess I don't have sophisticated tastes but please if I want chocolate and romance, hold the liver, bleh. I did like that Marcel didn't show a shred of gloating behavior when Cliff was booted. That says something for him. AndCliff seemed to realize how out of line he really was. That had all the ugliness of hazing. Costacat... Cliff was sent home because of the assault.. it is in their rules that they cannot touch one another in an aggressive manner, so the producers decided he must leave. But the judges stated that he probably would have gone home due to his dish as well. The really odd thing was that they seemed to then consider sending someone home anyway, or even two of them, Marcel and Elia! They drank but Elia said she had always wanted to shave her head.. The competition took place in Santa Barbara, so they all came back to LA and then had the judges table the next day.
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