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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:35 pm
Anyone else watch this?? Paul McKenna wrote the bestselling book "I Can Make You Thin", which also comes with a companion CD. It's on Sundays at 9 EST/PST on TLC. News Article I heard about this earlier this year, and downloaded his hypnosis CD that come with his book. Since I believe in hypnosis (or at least, that I'm very suggestible LOL), I thought "Why not!" I actually noticed a difference. I didn't feel hungry all the time like I am normally, and cut down A LOT on what I eat. However, I should have listened to the CD everyday, cause it only last a few days before I was eating all the time again. LOL Anyway, I watched the show tonight and it cover Paul's "4 Golden Rules" which are; 1. When you're hungry, Eat. Starving yourself will just slow down your metabolism.. 2. Eat what you like. You will crave junk food, but your body will tell you what to eat and you won't all feel the need for "bad foods." 3. When you eat, eat consciously. Savour every bite, put down the knife and fork in between bites, chew your food about 10-20 times. If you're still hungry, keep going. 4. Stop when you're full. You may not be able to tell when your body's full, so either guess, or for the first time, eat while blindfolded. It'll amazing you just how much less you eat when you don't see how much you're eating. These all sound like basic knowledge, but it's amazing how much we don't follow them. I'm not sure how much this will help, but I plan to watch all of this 5 part series, and see where it gets me!
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 7:58 pm
I too will be watching. It is amazing that we know what we "should" do but many of us can't seem to follow. If it was that easy, the weight loss industry would not be a billion dollar industry. I lost weight with Weight Watchers and worked for them behind the scenes for 12 years. I did corporate sales from my home and almost immediately put the weight back on plus some. I had the program and meetings available to me at no cost but just could not get back into it. There is so much more to being overweight and a lot of it has to do with emotional issues. If I could be locked in a house with a trainer and coach for a long time, like Biggest Loster, I am sure I could do great but on my own, very difficult!
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 4:55 am
Well I am going to give it a try as well. It is mostly common sense and can't hurt. I can' possibly workout anymore than I already do and I think my diet is right on track but obviously something is hinky.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 9:24 am
I will be taping this weekly and watched last nights episode as I got ready for work today. #3 will be a challenge for me as I loveeeeeee to eat and watch tv or read, sometimes all 3 at one time. Even as I was watching the show and thinking about laying down the silverware, I felt myself anticipating the need to sit on my hands between bites. Between a formal weight loss program through my state job and following weight watchers I am down about 50 pounds with an anticipated goal date of 02/09.My challenge is to go to the gym without feeling that it is punishment. I am going to the fanciest gym in my community for only $13.67 per month due to a program through my Public Employees Insurance. I am blessed, fortunatley I do feel good and have a sense of accomplishment as I leave the gym.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 11:47 am
Marameko, that is wonderfull!! I don't need to sit on my hands but eating slowly and in silence is definately a change for me. I had leftover salmon and some corn for lunch. Didn't eat less (it was an appropriate amount anyway) but I definately felt fuller when I was done. Same with my mid-afternoon snack which was ten grapes, one slice of watermelon with 6 walnut halves. Had missed breakfast because I had a few important errands I needed to dash off to do so am impressed that I am not at all hungry right now (usually this is my unbearable munching-urge period). Only down-side to trying this is that it took me half an hour to finish my salmon/corn..... cold salmon.... not the greatest. LOL
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:36 pm
I think it is a shame that way back in the mists of time when human behavior was first established, that eating, like other bodily functions was not considered a private, not a social thing. Just think if we all had to go into a private little room to eat like we do to go to the bathroom or have sex, fewer of us would be fat. Think we could work on the idea that public eating is somehow shameful and inapproiate? Just a thought.
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 2:53 pm
I think you're missing the point Allietex. It's not that public eating is bad, it's just that we allow ourselves to get too distracted from the actual process of eating. I find I can easily talk with friends and still manage to put the fork and knife down and NOT overeat. Eating together can be a very social and very liberating thing. It puts people onto the same level. I'd never want eating to be shameful. It wouldn't then just be that we had to do it alone, but we'd probably end up feeling ashamed that we were eating at all, which would probably lead to alot more eating disorders. LOL
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:30 pm
I'm fascinated by what appears to be the EFT technique being used in the previews. I've talked about this on the boards a few times and think it is truly amazing, if only it were more widely publicized and understood so many more people would be able to handle things so much easier www.emofree.com is the site I use. Maybe this program will do just that. I'll be interested to see how he brings 'tapping' into the mix.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 3:42 pm
that sounds very interesting Dahli, can you explain a little more. i did order the free info from the website.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, March 17, 2008 - 4:09 pm
RFLOL Allie.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 5:12 am
Neko, thanks for starting this thread! I would have never known about this and it sounds great! Dahli, I too would love to hear more on your thoughts.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 5:34 am
James Randi has talked about EFT several times on his site. This is from his weekly blog from 2006: Gary Craig's Center for EFT.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 9:27 am
How is the eating slow working for you guys? I must say that it is making a difference for me. I generally portion control anyway but I am definately fuller, much fuller when I am done and I seem to stay fuller for longer (not sure why that is.. added bonus). Downside is that I am eating a lot of cold food LOL and the time investment is a luxury. I have spent about 30-45 minutes on each meal and snack yesterday and today. If I didn't work from home and had younger, more dependant children... not sure that I could keep it up. Cereal this morning was the first meal that I didn't finish (and I was anticipating being fuller sooner so didnt take as much to begin with). It's now lunch and I am just not hungry at all. Did an hour run and I am hypoglycemic so I HAVE to eat but what a difference from normal when I have to restrain myself from having lunch at 10am. LOLOL
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 9:36 am
Pamy and Tex, it's definitely worth checking out if not trying, as it states much of what we suffer from has emotional roots and has been very helpful for me, from a torn rotater cuff to dealing with the shock of seeing my deceased mom. My daughter has been seeing a practitioner for issues of a broken relationship and she feels soooo much better, and my dad was able to deal with many of his parkinson's symptoms using EFT. My girlfriend's daughter uses if for anxiety and nail biting!! I posted a link in Mame's folder the other day of a woman who's used it successfully for fibro pain. The weight loss/emotional eating aspect should be interesting.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 10:25 am
i have done NMET, i wonder if they are related.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:02 pm
Regarding the comment above about eating alone, like we go to the bathroom alone: If I only ate what I eat in public, or even at home but with my family I'd be skinny. My problem eating is when I am alone. If I am visiting and talking,,,or concerned with serving the meal I eat small to normal amounts. But let me be up at night alone and I can eat enough for 2 or 3 men. So if I always ate alone I'd weigh 300 pounds.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:49 pm
I just have to say... I am so sorry Allie. Unless I am the one on a tangent, you were trying to make a joke and now you are wearing it. LOLOL Next time perhaps you should make better use of the funny face icons. Jami, me too!! In fact I avoid restaurants, I don't like eating in public. I eat much more with no-one around as a subtle reminder at self-control.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 12:51 pm
Neko, I was really not talking about anything in the article. I was just trying to be funny. But I have thought about this a lot over the years. And I do find an element of truth. And When I mentioned public eating, I was not just referring to what is usually considered public eating, I was talking about even with family. If eating was a thing to be done in private behind closed doors, just how much time would most of us spend doing it? Of course that is why I said it would have had to start way back there, because it is an ingrained social thing now. Never to be changed.

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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 3:41 pm
I haven't seen the show, just the commercials for it. The synopsis Neko gives sounds a lot like a "diets don't work" seminar I attended back in the early '80s. Eat only when you're hungry, chew completely, eat slowly, eat what you like, stop when you feel full. Sounds very simple. But like most simplistic solutions to complex problems, it doesn't necessarily address the underlying causes for overeating, which are many and varied. There's also the factor of exercise that needs to get built in. I'm not sure how the program deals with that aspect. As for the public versus private eating thing, again what may work for one person may not for another. There are lots of "closet binge eaters" who ONLY overeat in private. There are also folks who overeat in private on a non-binge scale for a variety of other emotional coping reasons. I really, really, really wish there were a simple solution to the issue that worked for everyone, but there isn't. Yes, the formula is simple (eat less calories than you burn and you'll lose weight -- barring any medical/medication issues), but the reality of LIVING that is far more complicated for each individual. When we were an agrarian society, activity and exercise were part of daily living. Now, we order in -- sometimes via the computer -- sit in front of TVs and computer screens much of the day, and get in our cars to go places. There's also a dramatically increased variety of foods available to us as well as preserved foods with chemicals and sodium and fat mixtures that were unheard of back when you grew your own vegetables and bartered with the neighbor down the road for eggs and meat and fruit -- and walked the mile to their farm to make the trade. Bottom line, all these kinds of folks who push diets or exercise or non-diets or pills or whatever they're selling as a quick solution to being overweight should be considered input for a personal plan that you make for yourself. What works for you may be an amalgam of several things, or could be one thing on its own, but it's not necessarily what will work for your neighbor. Personally, I know how to lose weight. I've done it over and over and over again. My problem is that the damn stuff always finds me again! 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 3:51 pm
max, the little bit of it i have seen, he acknowledges that there is always an underlying reason for people over-eating, and until that reason is addressed, they can't lose weight.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, March 18, 2008 - 6:49 pm
Thanks for the info, yall, I am looking forward to learning more about all of this
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Erniesgirl
Member
06-26-2006
| Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 9:44 am
One thing I found helpful was the "when you feel hungry you may just be thirsty" and to have a glass of water. Starting each meal with water will certainly make you feel fuller faster. I also heard somewhere that when you take an aspirin for a headache that it might have been the water that "cured" you, as dehydration had caused the headache in the first place.
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Neko
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 7:35 am
Did anyone watch this last night?? The tapping thing seems kinda ridiculous, so I don't think I'll be doing it in public, but I'm at least going to try it at home. He went through it very fast, so here's the whole thing again. 1. Focus on the food you are craving for a moment. Now, rate your craving on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being he lowest and 10 the highest. This is important, because in a moment we will find out how much you've reduced it. On a scale of 1 to 10, how strong is your craving? 2. Now think about that food you have been craving and taking two fingers of either hand, tap about ten times firmly under one of your eyes. 3. Now, tap under your collarbone. 4. Now place your other hand in front of you and tap on the back of it between the knuckles of your ring finger and your pinkie. 5. Open your eyes - now close them. 6. Keep tapping, open your eyes, and look down to the right and down to the left. 7. Keep tapping and rotate your eyes round 360 degrees clockwise, and now 360 degrees anticlockwise. 8. Still thinking about the food you were craving, hum a bit of a song out loud. 9. Count from 1 to 5 out loud 10. Now once again hum the fist few lines of 'Happy Birthday' out loud. 11. Repeat the beginning of the sequence. Still thinking about the food you were craving, tap under eye about ten times. 12. Now, tap under your collarbone. There's actually a different sequence given in his book, where you tap under your armpit and you don't count from 1 to 5, but he didn't show that on the TV show. The thing is, he said it wasn't a distraction technique, but then said it didn't matter if you got the order wrong. I guess it wouldn't make a difference, if you're dealing with energy points, but I assume that the way you do it is supposed to release energy in a certain way, and doing it wrong won't do that. I thought that was a bit sketchy.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 9:32 am
IMO it's just an elaborate way to distract and relax and I agree with you Neko... I won't be doing it in public (or anywhere else LOL). If it works for a person then great, but energy points? RFLOL I can see it working for some people (again) as a way to relax from whatever is stressing you and a distraction from the urge to eat and if it works then great but I don't for a minute believe there is any legitimate medical reaction to the tapping beyond that.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, March 24, 2008 - 9:37 am
My 2 cents for what it's worth. I caught a rerun of the show this past Saturday as I was home sick with nothing but the TV to keep me company. I'm not a dieter (have always been average weight) but both my daughter and husband are always on some sort of watching their weight and what they eat kick. I sometimes get mad at them because they spend so much time worrying about their weight and what they eat.....for years and they never seem to keep weight off for too long. (not mad at any sort of weight issue just mad that they spend so much time thinking and talking about weight loss) I've told them time and time again what I heard on the show. 1. Don't eat so freaking fast...I doubt you are even tasting the food. 2. Don't eat while your watching TV, reading...how can you pay attention and enjoy what your eating when you're busy doing other stuff. 3. Don't limit what foods you eat. Eat what you like but don't eat after you get full even if there us food left on your plate. I stop eating at the first sign of being full (that's the way I've always eaten but I think my husband and daughter eat so fast that their brain can't keep up with that pace and by the time they realize they are full they've eaten way more than necessary for being full) So I was shocked and surprised when this tv show basically said what I have been preaching for years. OH well I just had to get it that out.... ....I wish I could get a cut of his book sales LOL
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