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Whoami
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08-03-2001

Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 10:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I'd love to see Taylor pitch a fit and threaten to go home.....and have the rest of the town say, "OK...buh bye!"

When we were kids, my older sister did the "I'm going to run away from home" threat. So my mom gave her a bag to throw some clothes in, showed her the door, and stood in the door waving as sis tried to take a few steps down the street. Once she saw the manipulative threat wasn't going to get her what she wanted, she decided pretty quick she really didn't want to run away from home.

I don't know why any of them care that she stays, when they're all so fed up with her. Its like there's going to be some sort of financial bonus for everyone based on how many people stick it out to the end. Who knows, maybe there is something of that nature they aren't telling us about, cause they really do get overly emotional about anyone that wants to leave.

Dogdoc
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09-29-2001

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dogdoc a private message Print Post    
Taylor is not all that bad. She doesn't work hard but she is still a nice kid. The only time she yells is when the kids try to make her do something she doesn't want to do. I hope the kids want her to stay and tell her so. She will be hurt if nobody wants her. I wouldn't want to see that happen.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 3:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm happy to see some positives about Taylor. I don't think she is all that bad either. She is just a little girl and I hope this is a great learning experience for her.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Maybe they'll be able to impart to Taylor..."you are not a bad person, however, your behaviors are unacceptable." We are constantly trying to sort out the behaviors from the person when dealing with our own young children. It is important that children understand that there are boundaries which in no way reflect upon who they are as a person.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 4:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Taylor's press has been really bad.

She's a bright girl and I'm sure she's surfed the net and is probably shocked at how badly she came off...and probably doesn't care...we'll all have to "deal with it" I guess.

So in true "reality" form, can her redemption be far off.

Personally, I like her spunk and her sense of entitlement and her ability to piss people off with such ease.

She's the reason (for the most part) that I keep tuning in but all that being said I do not want to see her getting a gold star. There have been too many others that have pulled their weight right f}rom the start.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Here is a link to a preview from tomorrow night's show. Looks like Taylor is acting up again!

http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tv/kid-nation/EP00931618#episodes

Click Watch Preview and then I had to keep pressing the big blue button to watch but looks good.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
you know its bad when the network runs an ad with her face and the words BRAT! in big bold print!

I would love to hear from her parents and if they are happy with her editing

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Anyone ever consider maybe they are editing her BETTER than she acted?

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Oh now THAT "Brat" stuff is WWWWAAAAAYYY out of line! I haven't seen it yet but will be watching for it. Totally unacceptable!

I may disagree with her behavior, but that is a bunch of adults dogpiling on a kid - via the edit process! Seriously unhealthy for a child's growth and self esteem. Did they think it would satisfy our viewing pleasure? Pathetic. When I see it, I will be sending letters to CBS and anyone else I can raise heck about it!

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Wow, here is the link for a preview on the CBS site. I think that is what Pamy is talking about.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/kid_nation/

The are really editing this to show Taylor in a very bad way. Tomorrow's show will be interesting!

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
No amount of editing can show something that never happened.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
True Twinkie, I just meant that the preview seems to beat up on Taylor so it will be interesting to see the entire show :-) I am definitely not a Taylor fan and hate to see how she acts and what she gets away with. I really hope they withhold any reward from her this episode.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Oh my, that's over the top!!! The HUGE LETTERS were labeling.
Not cute and totally unacceptable by adults in the entertainment business. I don't care how she behaves, simply not acceptable!

under her picture shows "The Big Brat"

Now, what if we were to exchange the faces of some of the chubby kids, like that little girl who tasted the pies, slowing down the competition. What if?

under that child's picture showed huge letters "The Big Fat"

or under some other youngsters (several) showing "The Big Bully"

or under some other youngster showing "The Big Shark"

Would THOSE be considered acceptable? Doubt it.

These kids are going to have return to the REAL world where classmates are going to poke and point. It might be one thing if we only HEARD other kids saying "Brat". But putting it out in HUGE font, then several hits of different size fonts. This was true BULLYING from the adult producers, labeling a kid just to get some chuckles from their audience. What a potential expense for some mindless, senseless garbage.

If Taylor is doing some "Acting" job, and being paid accordingly, then the producers need to come clean and say so right here and now! But, if they are still going with the 'pretense' that this is a kid normal reality situation, then it's dogpiling on a kid.

On the other hand, if they're just setting the situation for Taylor to have an epiphany so she gets a gold star - hence, they've given her the payout for her little 'acting gig', this still DON'T CUT IT for me.

Under the belt tactics belong in the adult boxing ring, not when they are messing with kids' heads!! Bisc

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, November 27, 2007 - 10:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
first time I saw the ad I thought 'wow! I couldnt even get away with POSTING that at tvch and here the network is plastering it all over the tv!' LOL

I agree that if you act fine the whole time they cant edit you badly. Thats why I would love to hear from the parents

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 7:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
You know, I think she wears the title brat gladly as do her parents. It shouldn't be a revaluation to her parents that Taylor is being shown as a brat and certainly Taylor is aware and just don't care. That's the way brats operate. I think it's a given that she's a bratty since she's shown us over and over that she is. It doesn't matter that she shows glimpses of niceness...overall she acts bratty. And she seems to be ok with that...beats being a doormat but there us a happy medium.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
Glimpses of niceness? I musta blinked and missed that.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I bet there are all types of successfull adults who used to be brats when they were young.
A brat is defined as a spoiled, ill-mannered child. I know several of them. I know some adults who used to be brats and none of them seem to be still affected by being called a brat as a child.
Seriously, Tayler can be a brat, but that doesn't mean she is a bad kid.
Brat is not a terrible thing to call a kid especially if the shoe fits.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
"Glimpses of niceness? I musta blinked and missed that."

I think she was nice to the girl she hung out with that left????

ITA with everything Denecee wrote.

My siblings called me a spolied brat for years and years it never bothered me....I thought better me than you. I have a feeling Taylor has the same attitude. And yes we outgrow the brat phase and move gently into the female dog phase. ;)

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I'm wondering if a kid would be as offended at being called a brat as some of us "older" folks would. One of the hottest toys are "bratz" dolls. Seems being a brat is quite in style?

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

I agree that if you act fine the whole time they cant edit you badly.




What kid acts fine the whole time?

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I did!

Heyltslori
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09-15-2001

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Heyltslori a private message Print Post    
<cough>

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
The thing that has so many in an uproar the show calling her a "brat", which I agree is wrong by the way, but honestly I don't think her press has been any nicer here. I didn't go look it up but I am sure I have seen her called a brat before. It honestly has been what I have been saying all along. I enjoy this show and I enjoy this board but this has always been a difficult thread to participate in because I can't analyze or call names about a child as we would someone in the BB brother house that should know better.

I am not saying she is an angel and I agree she has shown some unpleasant behaviors but I don't know any child that deserves to be called a bad name because of it. I would guess that if she does see the press, that it hurts her feelings as it would any of ours, I would say that she does a "deal with it" as a defense mechanism to not be embarrassed.

Kids are kids, no one has perfect ones, some are better than others. Hopefully she will find some guidance from this experience.

The one thing I don't have a ton of faith in that she wasn't "told" to play this role, maybe she is a really good actress

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Just a reminder. The TVCH rules state clearly that you can comment on someone's behavior, but you can't namecall, ie, you can't say someone is a brat, or anything else.

Please be mindful that you are speaking about a child here, as well as being mindful about the TVCH posting rules.


Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Stacey...I am thinking also that she may have been told by someone to play this part. Her parents maybe because she is definitely getting the most air time. Think about it, we have not met some of the kids at all and Taylor has received quite a bit of coverage. Everyone who watches this show knows who she is. If she wants exposure, she got it and again we have seen how bad behavior for reality contestants can lead to other opportunities. Just a theory.....