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Everest: Beyond the Limit on Discovery

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Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Does anyone else get as addicted to this as I do? I loved last season! This season is shaping up to be just as exciting. THIS is reality TV! :-) I'm glad a couple of the climbers are the same ones from last year, if for no other reason it helps me keep them straight.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
I also get a high from watching this show, its one of those shows thats true reality.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 11:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
it's back on?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
When does it start?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm well guess it already started October 30.. bummer..

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 1:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
I missed the first eppy, but you can still watch the rest Sea, just like I will be doing.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 8:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Discovery does a lot of reruns, too -- often they'll show the previous week's episode on Tues. at 9 right before the new episode at 10. They have a "highlights" feature online at http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/everestbeyond/highlights/highlights-2007.html

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 11:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Oh for sure.. I've watched other shows on Everest and read a bunch of books, so all the issues and geography are pretty familiar. I did record an ep early this morning and watched that tonight. There is also a documentary coming up Friday? about someone trying to fly over Everest, something like that.

Kiersten_love
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08-03-2001

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kiersten_love a private message Print Post    
Thanks for letting me know about the doc on Friday, I have to write a note so I won't forget to tape/watch it.

I love these kind of shows, but I get so sad when I see or know of corpses along the way, or that someone we are watching didn't make it. It makes my heart very heavy with sorrow.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Sheesh -- did you see tonight's show???



I'm amazed Tim lived to tell about his descent, but I must admit to being impressed as all hell that he climbed UP 8 hours after breaking his hand so badly -- not to mention the descent. I was more worried about the OTHER people on the descent, though; no way he should be endangering other people's lives because of his stubbornness.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Tuesday, December 11, 2007 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
PHIL from the AMAZING RACE has a special tonight!! It's called "Everest: After the Climb" and Phil interviews people from both seasons of Everest: Beyond the Limit. Excellent show! I'm enjoying it.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 7:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I've seen that show with Phil (its been on several times) and it is a really good after-show. I'm totally fascinated by this whole series (and by the concept of climbing Everest in the first place -- although I have no desire to do so).

Mogens is my favorite.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I have been watching too (will have to keep an eye out for the special, missed it last night) and find it fascinating although a part of me can't help but think about how incredibly selfish some of these people are. This isn't JUST another physical limit to conquer, the risk of death is so high, the peripheral cost so dear. I remember reading this article awhile back... Interview with Lincoln Hall about the Australian climber left for dead on the mountain. I read about his wife sitting his two teenage children down and telling them that their dad was dead and it is heartbreaking. For that moment they believed their dad was dead because he wanted to climb a mountain? An achievement that benefits him but who else? Don't mean it to be as judgemental as I probably sound but did Hall look his wife and sons in the face and tell them that he could leave them a widow and orphans but he thinks it is worthwhile? Did they agree?

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 12:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I don't know...what is the line that separates living out your dreams and being a fulfilled person and selfishly risking your life? And to be honest, Rob Hall was a guide so he was paid a lot of money to shepherd tourists up Everest. Not that that makes a lot of difference to his wife and children.

Perhaps he did feel that it was worth it, and maybe she did too. Maybe she knew when she married him that he was going to be one of those people who was never content with a 9-5 existence, but instead was going to be out climbing the mountain peaks of the world.

I work for a female attorney who married a fellow attorney. Several years after they had been practicing law he became very discontent and decided that he wanted to become a writer. She supported him in his decision, even though she knew it was going to create a huge financial burden on her (going from a two-attorney in a major law firm income to a one-attorney income -- with two small children) (okay, for those of us who live on "normal" pay it probably doesn't seem to be a burden but the fact was that their income was cut in half by his decision). He wrote and stayed at home (and didn't take care of their children by the way) and now, MANY years later, has had some success...but she has supported their family all of these years. Yes, he wasn't risking his life but he was altering the potential their life had in a huge way...but she felt having a happy husband who was content with what he was doing was a lot more important than having an unhappy one with lots of money.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
I completely understand your point Roxip. I know its not only a thin line but a gray one. For me as soon as kids are involved it just gets a lot more black/white and I just think that just because a person CAN do something doesn't mean they SHOULD do it. A better comparison for me would be the spouse/children of police officers who know that at any time their loved one could be hurt/killed. But in that case it would be for a greater purpose, they are doing a necessary job, a noble one even. I don't see the greater good in climbing a mountain, its all about personal achievement. Does make for great TV though and it is amazing seeing the physical limits these people can push their bodies to and through.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 3:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I agree. I couldn't be that unselfish as to want to be with a person who is constantly putting themself on the line for something "not necessary." I would think it would take a very special person to deal with that kind of lifestyle.

I have read that Bek Weathers (doctor who was on Everest in 1997 and actually was considered dead and ending up losing a hand and his nose) was about to have a divorce because his wife was tired of his mountain climbing. I think he has stopped climbing since that particular winter where there were so many deaths.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
The last ep I saw that tivo grabbed last night, Big Tim made it to the summit and had to start his descent. Is there and ep after that that I have missed? You guys are talking like he made it all the way down, but my tivo didn't grab past him him hitting the summit and the first length down.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
The show "Everest: After the Climb" was on after that episode Naja, so that's where part of this discussion is coming from. I haven't seen the latter part of the descent or the second team's climb either.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
ok, Thanks Teach :-)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 8:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Yes, I have noticed that the "After the Climb" show airs and then a new episode airs (or else I'm running way behind and they are rerunning episodes).

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Crazy people that go up on Everest, right?

Well, this series has now ended for me and I was happy that all my favorites made it up and down and mostly intact. Mostly I was happy that Mogens made it. And although I knew that he would (since I had seen "After the Climb") it was still nice to experience his emotions as he achieved his goal. He kind of scared me on the way down though.

Do you think these people will be able to stay away from doing it again? They all said they wouldn't but I wonder if the lure of the adrenalin rush will continue to haunt them.

LOL @ Tim saying he was going to go and hang out in a hammock on a beach. Now that's my idea of a vacation.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Scary moments w/Mogens!! I still think this is one of The Best Reality shows EVER! It's incredible what people will push themselves to do, and it's downright horrifying to look at other "guides" who do not watch/guide/monitor as well as Russ does for his group. So many unknowns, so much suspense-- absolutely fantastic!

Willsfan
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09-04-2000

Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willsfan a private message Print Post    
I think a lot of experienced climbers could climb Everest if they had the time and the money. Not everyone can take off work that long and blow that much money to pursue their dream, but hats off to those that made it.
No way could I have survived or even qualified to make the climb.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, December 26, 2007 - 10:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I agree that a lot of experienced climbers could climb Everest, although the reality is that some have died up there. Unfortunately it seems that it is now something people are "buying" and that creates more havoc and chaos on the mountain...people without enough experience putting themselves and others lives in danger all for the thrill of saying that they have accomplished this monumental feat!