TVCH FORUMS HOME . JOIN . FAN CLUBS . DONATE . CONTACT . CHAT  
 Wikia  Quick Links   TOPICS . TREE-VIEW . SEARCH . HELP! . NEWS . PROFILE
Archive through November 09, 2007

The TVClubHouse: Other Reality Shows ARCHIVES: Archives for 2008 - 1: Kid Nation: ARCHIVES: Archive through November 09, 2007 users admin

Author Message
Lilfair
Member

07-09-2003

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I think I read that at the end of the day all the kids walk away with some sort of gold star. This show...any reality...show can afford to give em all $20k at the finish.

I still am not sure that I love this show but I watch every week. My wishy washy-ness stems from how it appears that there is a lot of coaching from the so called non adults in Bonanza. I don't think tptb give them lines but they do give them topics to comment about.

Divad seems not to have the best social skills compared to the others that have recieved the gold star. The other kids see right through her. There is nothing wrong with lobbying for the star...several of the winners have but they engaged others to support them.

Alex is a sweetheart...his parents must be so proud.

Jared intrigues me so much. I am sure we will be hearing about him in the future.

I get the feeling that Laurel may have a bit of issue with Sophia. I'ts just a feeling I get and I have no real examples of why.

Karen
Member

09-07-2004

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Does anyone have any idea when this ends? On Survivor we can count the remaining players and we know how much longer the show goes on... how many more episodes do we have left?

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Lilfair, I also sense Laurel may have an issue with Sophia. Maybe because Sophia comes off a little negative, like when she laid down in the middle of the street and the other kids followed, instead of thinking of it as a compliment, she sort of criticized them for it.
I loved the talent show!
Divad's mom tried to stop this show? I didn't know that but it doesn't surprise me. I sure hope Divad changes her attitude soon and quits nominating herself for a gold star.

Realurker
Member

08-10-2004

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Realurker a private message Print Post    
I worry about the sanitary things--I remember wishing for the BB house to have a washing machine after reading about Jase's nasty sheets and other things he did--now I hope these kids have a bath house with showers off camera somewhere! I notice some have clean hair and I
can't even think about the underwear!

Jami
Member

10-08-2003

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere that they all get a shower after each showdown, which seems to be every 3 days.

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
this is something i have stated from day one (almost day one) of joining TVCH - we shouldn’t judge on age - its about individuals and acknowledging them as human beings. Sure this is a diverse lot of “mature” kids but the things is, as others have suggested, the same is true no matter what your age is. There will be the smarter, grounded, kinder people at age 10 just as there will be the more self centered, not as bright, or socially inapt 10 year olds – and the same at 25 or 12 – any age will have people at all places on the spectrum of what we call “mature”. And so, i think it’s a disservice to kids when adults assume that they are supposed to be a certain way based on their age and not acknowledge them as the individual human beings they are – we all have the same needs and desires – we all will want things but if it’s a 5 year old crying because they couldn’t do something they wanted to do, they are called selfish or a brat or punished but if it was a 38 year old, then we would be saying sorry you couldn’t get what you wanted – some kids know how to communicate better then others and so they come across as more mature – but it’s the same as an adult who may not have the best communication skills in expressing their needs or desires and so we prejudge them as being a snob or aloof just as we label a kid as a brat or self centered.

And class system will occur in any environment at any age - it can be school, work, your community home association, a recreational soccer league, a book club etc – even IF everyone likes the others (which is rare) there is always the cool people, always the quiet ones, always the go-getters, always the leaders and followers, always the supportive ones – so there is nothing fake about the kids or how they are acting – the producers wanted toe more mature kids because what “immature” kid could last 40 days in that town… and you still get the usual classes, differences, arguments, friendships, bonds, activities etc with 40 diverse mature kids that you would get with any group of 40 people/

The other point is if you look at any reality show – every “confessional” has the producers asking the people questions to comment on – sometimes they may want to go into confessional but most of the time it’s a set structure in BB, Real World, Survivor etc where everyone is required to do a confessional each day or every other day etc , the producers ask questions to direct the conversations and then edit what they want – nothing to do with feeding kids lines or directing their conversations because they are kids – its about directing the people on the reality show – whatever age they are.

All that being said, I like all the kids (as annoying as Taylor can be) and can totally see that group of personalities in any society

Allietex
Member

08-16-2002

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Excellent post, Legal. I agree with most of what you said.

I do believe though, that kids can change as they get older. An immature ten year old is not necessarily going to be an immature 20 year old.

And a sweet and seemingly mature 10 year old can, through event and pressures, become a bratty 20 year old.

So I believe age can have an impact on how they act and react. Their bodies and minds, their beliefs, their emotions, their knowledge of the world is still developing.

Kids are not just little people. I believe we should be more tolerant of the behavior of a child than we would an adult. What might be charming in a six year old would be unacceptable in a 15 year old, and obnoxious in an adult.

But the idea that their society is a reflection of all societies is correct. People who think there can be a perfect world are overlooking the very nature of humans.

Every society discovered on earth has had the same basic structure. With few exceptions, there are the leaders, the followers, the rich, the poor, the kind people and the mean people.

And a society of children is not going to be any different. The thing that makes a society improve is enough people who respect the rule of law over the rule of an individual or the rule of a limited group.

I think the kids are doing a good job given the structure of the game. And let's face it, it is a game.

How it would play out in a real world situation where a group of children like them were to be lost and isolated is a different story. Without the cameras and the knowledge that their actions are ultimately going to be viewed by their parents and millions of viewers, they might be completely different. That pressure kind of replaces the "law" in controlling their actions.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 4:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
If I say one of the kids is acting like a brat then that's all I mean by the statment. Please do not think that I am sitting here thinking that these kids are going to turn out to be awful just because they display some bad behavior. Jeez, I do have kids and I feel very protective of all kids.

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 5:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
There's a few more video clips from the talent show on the CBS site that didn't make it into the episode. Morgan and Pharaoh did a fairly decent performance of "America the Beautiful," a girl named Sophie read an original poem, Nathan sang "Greensleeves," Markelle did a "Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Star" remix, and Taylor and Leila sang "Old McDonald" with a couple of live animals.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/kid_nation/video.php

Seeker
Member

09-02-2005

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seeker a private message Print Post    
Does anyone besides me think that Olivia looks like a young Hillary Clinton? I kept thinking that she looks so familiar and last night it came to me who she looks like.

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
ding ding ding, you're right, Seeker! I had tried to figure out her familiar face, too! Good catch!

Rosem4243
Member

06-27-2005

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 8:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Seems like mostly Green team kids have gotten gold stars. This makes me wonder how much influence Laurel has in the decision.

Also, it shows in the photos at the top of this page that Greg has a gold star. Did I miss an episode? I thought Greg has NOT received a star.

Ketchuplover
Member

08-30-2000

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
He did but his call home lasted about 10 seconds(the part shown).

Rosem4243
Member

06-27-2005

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 8:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosem4243 a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Ketchup, I guess I did miss an ep! Too bad, because I would have liked to have seen it. I was rooting for him once he calmed down and started making a contribution.

Kellsma
Member

08-28-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
Rosem4243 you can watch all the episodes on CBS.com, I think he got the gold star in episoded 3 or 4....
Love this show!

Mameblanche
Member

08-24-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
I only peek into this show now and again, but I think it's terrific. Now I have a question. HOW do they just happen to have a camera filming the parents at the home of the winner of the weekly gold star, ready to take the kid's phonecall, when TPTB supposedly don't know in advance who's gonna win?

Sorry my question is so convoluted!

Mybbusername
Member

08-22-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mybbusername a private message Print Post    
I had the same question Mame, until my 9 year old neighbor who watches with me pointed out that "Probably they only edit it to look like they call home the same day they win....they could actually make the call the next day".......

He should have been on the show!!!!

Mameblanche
Member

08-24-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 12:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
If that's the case, and it probably is... then its disingenuous (sp) to say to the kid, here's the key to the phone, what are you waiting for, go run there now and call home. No need for that BS IMHO.

Twinkie
Member

09-24-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Why? They are kids, they aren't stupid. They understand they are on a TV show and things have to be done certain ways to make the show good.

Mameblanche
Member

08-24-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 2:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Twinks, I meant its baloney for the AUDIENCE, us... no need for it.

Allietex
Member

08-16-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 3:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I suspect it happens like Myy said. That is what I figured from the beginning. We know they get phone calls from the staff every few days, so they tell the parents they are going to film their phone call and that way they get the suprise of the parents hearing the children's voices and the news of the star.

Of course the council may have to tell them ahead of time so they can set up the camera in the parent's home. They obviously do not make the decision during the last minute huddle. That is just for show.

Tntitanfan
Member

08-03-2001

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I am thrilled at how much nicer Taylor and Mike are now that they are off the Council! Are we seeing "power corrupts," or are we seeing that some people react badly to stress?

I am an English major, so I know all the rules about spelling and grammar and such. However, I also remember that not everyone who posts on this board has had the same learning opportunites that I have had, and I would much rather they feel free to post with incorrect spelling or grammar than not to have the benefit of their opinions - Just sayin'!

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I think it's that some people react badly to stress (and being told what to do). Laurel and Anjay seem to be handling it well enough, although Anjay can get walked on at times. They don't seem to be on a power trip.

It is interesting that Laurel's and Anjay's teams have the most gold stars. This could be because they have more influence on the decision, they chose good team members in the first place, they're paying more attention to how their people are performing, or as leaders they've succeeded in bringing the best out of their people. Perhaps it's all of the above.

Both Zack and Pharaoh have been considered in the past, which would've given the yellow team a couple of winners.

As someone mentioned earlier, it's possible if not probable that they'll all go home with a decent amount of money. Six weeks of working on a TV show should be worth something, even if it's not a full $20,000.

Sharinia
Member

09-07-2002

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 10:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
This show really lifts me. These kids are amazing - I am in awe of them !!

Whoami
Member

08-03-2001

Friday, November 09, 2007 - 10:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Was it just me, or did the girl who sang at the talent show look a little.....sullen after Laurel sang at the council meeting? The camera did seem to focus in on her for a reaction.

I wonder if Laurel didn't sign up for the talent show cause she knew she was a good singer, and as a leader, didn't want to "show up" any of the townsfolk?