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Allietex
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08-16-2002

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Tayor baffles me. One time you see her, she is acting so very mature, the next time you see her she is acting like a brat, a little prima donna. I gave her the benefit of the doubt the first week but she disappointed me this week. I will be interested to see which is her true character.

I keep reminding myself that these are kids and that that is the way kids are. Few kids are consistant in their actions.

Even Greg, who is 15 and shows to such a disadvantage right now. He is really not very likeable, but Lord, think what a difficult time being a teen ager is. And to be one of the oldest and obviously the mose capable as far as being able to do things, and yet to not have a leadership role must be killing him.

I wonder how he would have acted if he had been named one of the town council. I suspect he would act much more mature if he was in a position of responsibility.

Of course, how he acts when not in that role is a real test of character.

I suspect that there has been some poor behavior among some of the other kids that have not been profiled up until now. I tend to think there are just too many of them.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, September 28, 2007 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I think Greg would see being on the town council as a position of power rather than responsibility!

Willwillbee
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09-20-2001

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Willwillbee a private message Print Post    
These town council meetings are (supposedly) held every 3 days, so Greg working really hard for a whole 3 days is not sufficient. At the town council meeting the host asks for the approval rating of the council members and only 2 raised their hands to say they were unhappy. I bet that if 51% were unhappy, the host would ask them to vote in new members. If lil miss beauty queen council member who refuses to cook (ya'll can just starve) & allows her teammates to blow off their jobs continues, I bet the town will mutiny. She's lucky that Sophia is keeping the troops fed. I would imagine as time goes by, he will mention the option of electing new members.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 4:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I hope this wasn't already asked and sanswered...but can the same child get the gold star more than once? Or is it a one time only thing?

Vee
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02-23-2004

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
(Big thanks to the mod who placed the children in teams for us. It makes it a lot less confusing!)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Lil, I dont think they have told us yet

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the colour coding and stars and hearts. Really helps.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 7:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I imagine the other kids would have a serious problem with someone getting two stars when so many won't get stars at all.

The color coding of the pictures helps a lot. Look at the way the ages stack up. The blue team actually has the widest variety of ages represented, from 8 to 15. There are no more than two people who are the same age in that group. On the other hand the red team has only one member under eleven years old, giving them the highest average age of 12.6.

Looking at the green team, the only thing that can explain them always coming in last is that they're a "man" short with only 9 members.

I can also now see why Anjay would vote for Greg and Laurel would vote for Michael, since those are their teammates.

Didn't they mention at one time that there was a jail in the town? I wonder when that will come into play, and who will serve as law enforcement.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I am glad that you noticed that Jimmy was NOT the only eight year old in the game! We have not - I think - seen anything yet of the eight-year-old girl. I am having a hard time keeping up with 39 kids at the moment - although the color coding above has gone a long way toward helping!

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
Tnt, the 8 year old girl, Mallory who is a sister to 12 year old Olivia has received quite a bit of face time to date. In the first episode, Mallory had 5 speaking credits and in the second episode she had 1.

Since Mallory and her sister are on the same blue team, I would think it would help Mallory be less effected at the separation from family.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Glenn, for the connection of sisers. I hadn't read that -

I guess I didn't recognize her on the show. Thirty-nine kids are a lot for a frazzled brain to keep up with! I will watch more carefully next show!

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
What intrigued me the most about the second episode was discovering that Greg had experience in processing animals to become a food source. First of all , the fact that a 15 year old boy in our current society has had a job and second, that it was in a area not typically held in high esteem. I want to know more about Greg’s background. His having actually had a job lessened the disappointment of his quest for the gold star for its monetary value versus the acknowledgement of what would have earned it for him.

Taylor told us they started with 18 chickens. Two have become a meal and simple math would indicate there will be a shortfall of chickens to dine upon if they want to eat something beyond canned food. I seem to remember seeing sheep on previews for next week. They were also given goats in the first episode. Processing a chicken for food is minor when compared to what is involved in making a goat or lamb become a source of food.

I wonder if the show producers will keep it true to what pioneers experienced or will we see Dominos make a delivery as a reward in some future competition.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I wonder if Greg has a family farm. I dont know what state would allow a child to work in a butcher environment at that age.

I really am wondering how many of these kids are plants.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - I wonder too. However, even if they are plants they are still kids so it's pretty amazing.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I THOUGHT Greg said he had "worked with/for a butcher." Could be his day, uncle, grandfather has a butcher shop! And not to be sexist - his mom, aunt or grandmother could be the butcher! Anybody got the exact wording on tape?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
If Glenn knew about the sister thing, are the bios up somewhere? Not that reading THIRTY-NINE bios is going to be all that helpful to me!

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
Hubby is off at a golf tournament for a week so I am saving up shows for him. Just checked it out:

"I've worked with the butcher for about a year and I've butchered cattle, I've butchered pigs, I've butchered goats, I've butchered lambs, I've butchered turkeys, I've butchered chickens."

I was worried a bit that he had seen it done once or something and had a big head of bravado. But, he obviously knew what he was doing and got the job done without undo stress on the animals. It seemed obvious to me that he had personally done this before and not just watched the process.

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Living on a farm/ranch, kids are taught at an early age that the animals are there to eat. They help out on the farm or ranch as young as 3 years old. It starts out as pulling weeds, cleaning up after critters, working with the tractors, butchering etc.

I was running the tractor at 12 to 13 yrs old. My family was so frustrated with me, because no matter what, I would never eat the animals we raised and butchered. If I didn't know the animal, I could eat it, and my family would get mad at me and still don't understand I couldn't be apart of the eating after butchering. I would eat everything else but.

Dolphinschild
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06-22-2006

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dolphinschild a private message Print Post    
Thank you for who did the color teams up top

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
TY, Rissa! I remembered him naming off what he had butchered, but I couldn't remember how the remark started! Glad you had it taped -

Karen
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09-07-2004

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
This past episode with the chickens reminded me of growing up on a farm. We used to raise chickens, and when I was very young it was my job to go out and collect the eggs. Well, we had this one <bleep> of a rooster who would peck and bite at me every single time I went in there. Those things can hurt when you're a little girl! My Mum has a great story of me one night at the dinner table being offered the choice of ham or that very rooster. My response was "That rooster kept on biting me, I wanna bite him back!" Probably the best bird I ever tasted, LOL. Most satisfactory, at least.

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
Tnt, I am unaware of any bios posted that you could read. That bit of information about Mallory and Olivia being sisters came from the first episode. I want to believe it was something said by Mallory while they were still on the bus.

I was the very same age as Greg the first time I butchered a chicken. I was staying with my uncle and aunt for the summer working for them around their small farm/ranch. My aunt was getting things ready for dinner and asked me to catch one of the chickens, behead it, and bring it to her. So having done this before myself, I was intently watching how Greg performed his task. Greg knew what he was doing.

My impression is that most "butcher shops" rarely have to kill the animal they are processing. Typically, they buy the carcass and cut it up and package it. This in my mind makes Greg that much more of a special person in the grand scheme of this show.

Glenn
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07-05-2003

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenn a private message Print Post    
LOL Karen. You better hope Pamy isn't reading this thread cause she sure will be tempted to turn it naughty.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
me? never!

(I had to draw the line at naughty turns on a show about kids :-))

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Sunday, September 30, 2007 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Yeah, right! You were just headed off at the pass, my friend!
{{{Pamy}}}

Glenn: Rissa above reported that he said, "Ive worked with the butcher for about a year ..." I didn't remember the exact quote, but this would seem to indicate that the butcher (and Greg) were involved in the actual slaughter.

You certainly have an amazing memory regrding who said what! I am amazed as my memory has more holes that a good Swiss cheese!

A family down the street kept chickens - and I lived in the city! - and I can remember the housewife going out in the backyard and wringing a chicken's neck. You can believe that I only watched ONCE!