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Archive through December 19, 2007

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Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 5:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
LOL nice job Karen

I am going to miss them as well

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
That was a great show! I, too, would have liked to see MORE albeit smaller prizes distributed to addl kids. But, like on Survivor/TAR, we expect just a select few to get the big bucks in the end, just feels a little different because they're all kids. Agree with Allietex that it would have been nice to see the 'surprise' award of an extra $1000 for each kid, though, that they too weren't expecting.

Absolutely DELIGHTED that Zach got his star. He so truly deserved it. The look on his face and his tears were worth the wait!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
My take on the council's reasoning behind WHO was awarded the big gold stars:

- Yes, Sophie did work hard and at least they were all fed for the duration, no matter which team got the cooking job. Remember that one episode where yellow team was handing out handfuls/morsels of cold fried potatoes for a LATE breakfast? Sophie, for sure, was bound to get the big star. Plus she's older, should be soon heading to college and the council knew $20k doesn't go far.

- All three big star winners were NOT past/present council members. So, no council member (including Laurel) walked away with any more than the others. A larger award might make it seem like her time as a leader was perceived as more valuable than any of the others' efforts.

- All three winners seemed to be more of the 'motherly nurturing' types, giving out hugs and scolds to all, especially the younger homesick kids. For instance, Morgan setting up the interfaith church services, most kids probably associate with their Mothers getting them to Sunday School.

- In the case of 1st Council-guy Mike not getting a star. While also falling into the no past/present council member category where they wouldn't give him the $50k - on Day 1 Mike & Greg had a dispute. Mike was not helping, just barking orders while Greg was hauling the wagon into town. They shook hands later, but that seemed not entirely genuine, IMO. As council member, IIRC, Mike argued against Greg getting a gold star about 3 times before Greg was finally awarded one, even though Greg was working so hard. Chopping chickens and uprighting outhouses 'with his bare hands'. (Granted, Greg was being a p!ss-ant and unpleasant at times. But, if it weren't for Mike opposing it seemed like Greg would have gotten his star sooner.) Word gets around, so I doubt that Greg was campaigning for Mike to get the Big Daddy - walking away with more than Greg/Mike/DK/Blaine would themselves.

So tickled Zach got one and Taylor didn't. Whew, wasn't sure that would happen!

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Thursday, December 13, 2007 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Poor Emilie! Willing to sleep with the chickens and then given the boot anyway. Sad, but little girls can get mean. She probably is always the last to be chosen on the playground/P.E. teams too.

Thought Curlyq's comment "bonding in the chicken coop where Emilie spent a lot of her time, so she probably thought she was accepted in their clique." was right on target!

Carrie92
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09-15-2003

Saturday, December 15, 2007 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carrie92 a private message Print Post    
I was a little disappointed that Laurel didn't win one of the 50k stars.

I'm kind of hoping for a televised reunion, and some interviews with some of the parents. Would love to see what Taylor's mom has to say!

Has anyone seen any post show interviews? I know there was a lot that came about before the show, but now that it has aired, I'd be curious to see what the kids and parents have to say.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Monday, December 17, 2007 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Does anyone see a similiarity between Emilie and Denise on Survivor. Probably always on the outside looking in. It breaks your heart. I saw so many kids like that when I was teaching. Sometimes I just wanted to shake the other kids, but there is so little you can do other than try to encourage kindness.

One thing I never did was have my kids choose teams. Either I did it and tried to mix up the kids fairly, or we did it by random chance or draw. I could not stand to have a child standing waiting to be last. I think that is the ultimate in cruelty.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Allietex said: "One thing I never did was have my kids choose teams."

Nice!!!!! I was always the last chosen too. And I will never forget those times. I wasn't chubby, I was "the cripple".

ETA: Yes, I absolutely saw the similarities between Denise and Emilie. Kids can be seriously mean and people think kids (on the receiving end) will simply outgrow. But it doesn't truly work that way.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I HATE that school yard pick for teams. I was always last man standing. However, as an adult, I do what I have to do to make sure I am one of the first ones picked. It is a horrible feeling at the time; especially standing there waiting, knowing no one is going to pick you but I think it is part of what gave me a strong sense of competition.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Carrie, I also would love to see some post interviews or a reunion.

I wonder if this did well enough for there to be a 2nd season

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I think casting for KN2 began after the premiere episode.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
I will never forget one little girl I had in my class who was the cutest, most popular little girl I think I ever had. Her name was Kay. But the thing that set her aside was her kindness. She looked out for the ones who were picked on. And somehow she had the clout to pull it off.

Janie was on the other end of the spectrum. Almost retarded, unattractive physically, came from a deplorable home condition, and on top of everthing, she smelled.

One day right after recess, when several of the other kids had been particulary mean, Janie left for her special ed class, and Kay lit into them. Boy, she told them off like I have never seen a child do before. Standing in front of the class with her hands on her hips and her eyes sparkling with tears.

I just stood there and let her have at them and never said a word. It was beautiful to see. I still get tears in my eyes when I think of it.And when she finally sat down, you could have heard a pin drop.

And it did change things. From then on, I never saw any outward signs of meanness toward Janie. The kids knew they would have to answer to Kay. No teacher could ever have that much influence.

One of the most memorable days in all my 30 years of teaching.

By the way, I taught 2nd grade at the time. Kay was eight years old. And she never changed. She is just as special as an adult as she was a child.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
What a heartwarming story Allietex...thank you for sharing!!!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
An absolutely wonderful story. We need more people like Kay in the world.

Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 1:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Jimmer are you following me?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
great story and how awesome that you are able to know her as an adult!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, December 18, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
However, as an adult, I do what I have to do to make sure I am one of the first ones picked. It is a horrible feeling at the time; especially standing there waiting, knowing no one is going to pick you but I think it is part of what gave me a strong sense of competition.

How do you 'make sure' you are picked first Chili? <lol - imagination runs wild>

It's funny - I feel that I am the opposite. I tended to get picked first as a child, and felt bad for some of the other kids. I think it made me less competitive as an adult.


Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 2:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I put myself in the position of not only being able to compete but being competitive also. If I don't know how to do whatever it is, I will learn it quick. Anyone who knows me, knows I'm in it for the win; whatever it is. They know I'm going to give it my all or die trying. And, I have a positive attitude and know how to be a good sport and play well with others. LOL

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 5:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
lol. well that's a great attitude Chili. i like giving things my all, but i don't have a need to 'outdo' others - if that makes sense? i wouldn't mind getting picked last so someone else doesn't have to feel bad. anyway..

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think I've ever been picked last for anything. I'd be devastated. So my heart goes out to all those who have that happen to them routinely.

Y2krazy
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09-17-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Y2krazy a private message Print Post    
I was always picked last. Got kinda used to it. Didn't like it. Quit competitive sports as quickly as possible. However, people tended to underestimate me...my brain was powerful (LOL) I was still picked last for other things (like spelling bees, trivia games...) BIG mistake...that's where I shone! During grade school (which is where being picked last hurt) I won almost every game where knowledge was a major factor!

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
Pamy, I taught in a small town of less than 4000 people. It was wonderful to be able to know kids you taught in first and second grade and know how they turn out. Sometimes it was good and sometimes it was bad.

It was nothing for me to teach the children of kids I had taught. I always said I did not mind it when they told me I taught one of their parents, but if anyone ever told me I taught their grandparents, I was going to retire. It never happened. LOL

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
It's horrible to be picked last, and even more so when the person picking doesn't even know your name: "I'll take her, in the blue shirt".

I really hope kids today are taught a bit more sensitivity than they were in my day.

Like y2crazy, I was good at mental contests, spelling, brain teasers, and people underestimated me as well. They soon learned. But with sports, well, I would have picked me last too. But I would have done it with a bit more kindness and not a "do we have to pick her" kind of gesture.

Allietex
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08-16-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Allietex a private message Print Post    
It is funny how people get the wrong idea about you. Once when I was in high school,some of the boys on the bus were grabbing people's report cards and reading them off aloud. Of course they were targeting the ones who they thought would have bad grades.

One of the boys grabbed mine and looked at it and then looked at me real funny and asked if this was really my report card. When I said it was he looked at the name and then handed it back to me withour a word. I had all A's.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
LOL Allie!!! about the grandparents!!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
If there is a second Kid Nation as it seems likely there will be, I'll bet they are smart enough to learn from the previous show - unlike Survivor competitors who still go out there with no clue how to make FIRE!