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Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Wow -- wasn't thrilled w/Cliff last week and REALLY didn't like him this week. Ilan also dropped down in my ranking when he tried to suggest to Elia that they lose and ditch Marcel.

I think Cliff should've gone. He really didn't do anything except a sauce...whoop de do. He was horrid at the front and it was his fault some of the food wasn't as appealing b/c it wasn't served on time.

Mike, while he was struggling, was doing everything he was told to do, so I think he got rather a bum rap.

My favorite has always been Elia, Marcel wasn't nearly as obnoxious this week, and Sam still seems like a basically decent guy.

I am REALLY intrigued as to what went on for next week's show...can't wait to see it (and read the blogs)!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Umm, let me see... I'm sure it was a misdirection, but we saw and heard Elia say she quits, then there was some kind of mishap, then some sort of prank that got out of control. Chef Tom was disgusted and said something like wait til you see them and then you saw eyebrows lifted when they walked in

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Ladytex, what made Sam go down in your estimation? (I normally have to watch the show twice to catch up on all the nuances.)

I think Cliff, Sam and Ilia ARE the best chefs out of all of them. They would be the ones I would want to go out to dine out at their restaurant.

The mistakes they are "making" are coming from the stress and lack of time from the challenges. It is very hard to pick one person to choose.

But if I did have to pick one person to go to their restaurant and eat at, I think I would pick Elia's.

P.S. I miss Mia! She would be my second choice to go eat out after Elia. (and this is a hard choice. It depends on what my stomach is telling me at the moment.)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Sam's attitude the last couple of weeks has dismayed me. He hasn't seemed to accept responsibility for anything that goes wrong and he's seemed kind of childish in his attitude toward Marcel. I'm not going to take anything away from his cooking, because I think he's one of the best there, and I really wouldn't mind too much if he'd win. But I'd like to see him learn a little humility ...

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 1:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Cliff or Sam were the correct choices but Sam has been skating under the radar and he finally got called on it. I'm fine with him leaving but Cliff is also a negative force on a team.

I'm sure the preview is all misdirection but it sounds interesting.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 4:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Ladytex!!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Darn, I fell asleep. I am sad, but not surprised that Michael was eliminated. While the judges say they don't look at previous work, Mike just has the rep of not being at the same caliber as the others.
sounds like everyone were brats tonite!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Am I the only one that does NOT dislike Marcel? I kind of feel sorry for the guy. I hate the "gang" mentality.



Gemma120in2002
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07-05-2003

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gemma120in2002 a private message Print Post    
As the show has gone on, I have come to understand that Marcel's appearance of arrogance is actually a wall he puts up to protect himself. He's insecure about his personal interactions, and as a result, he has created this personna to keep people at a distance until he can figure out how to deal with them. Unfortunately his people skills still haven't developed enough to keep him from inspiring the kind of animosity in others that has allowed this mob mentality to develop.

"Group think" is a very powerful thing, and a group can develop a set of scruples and standards that is a far cry from what the individuals in the group hold personally.

If Marcel had said something funny to difuse the situation after Ilan went off on him, it would have made everyone laugh and would have caused them to start to like him. The laughter is a chemical and social lubricant in a group. If you make someone laugh, it increases the feel good hormones in the brain and in the body. Chemically and psychologically you begin to like the person who made you laugh.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 7:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I like Marcel. I think he has handled the stress of the haters with a lot of dignity. A lot of people could have turned it into a much bigger deal... And that has to be a lot of added stress to work under those conditions knowing no one (except maybe Elia) dislikes you so much.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 8:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
I'm sort of jumping on to the Marcel wagon, too. As Julie said, he has handled the other people's hate well. I can't believe that it is ALL editing that we don't see him yell and scream back at them, and he really does handle himself well in front of the judges. I haven't seen him openly try to slam others at the judges table, but speaks to the challenge and the food. JMO, don't kill me.

Jkm
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07-10-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jkm a private message Print Post    
I'll miss you Mikey

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I've never not liked Marcel and have always hated the "pile on" mentality. That happens in lots of reality shows but I think they should be careful of displaying that sort of negative stuff on shows where, presumably, being on the show is an individual showcase for these people to present their own talents, including talents of working with people they find difficult (same goes for project runway). You want to win, perhaps you don't "carry" someone as was said about Michael several times last night, by other chefs and by the judges), but displays of junior high behavior and/or sabotage would certainly make me NOT want to pluck that person up to bring to my restaurant (if I had one). In so many of these shows the non winners get great exposure and opportunity awaits them. It isn't like Survivor where outplay, outwit, outlast is the mantra and lying is rewarded (sometimes).

Also in the preview, whatever went "too far" seems to have caused the judges to haul them (or some or one of them) up and say they have to leave but that could be misleading and just be the actual elimination.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
When I see Marcel I only see his hair. I can't stop looking at it. Its like Bozo the Clown meets Donald Trump.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 11:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Gemma, i agree. Marcel has always reminded me of my daughter how she reacts when she wants to be cool..it annoys me too! LOL

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 11:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
^5 Twinkie, I keep looking at his hair thinking :" Why, why ,would a young man wear his hair like that" ? Is it for the attention or is he just pompous through and through ?

Meggieprice
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07-09-2001

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Meggieprice a private message Print Post    
Sorry- I can't stand Marcel and was appalled to find out Michael left instead of Marcel. Michael won both challenges last week! It feels wrong to me.

Marameko
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07-15-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 12:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marameko a private message Print Post    
I peeked at the spolier even though I did not get through the DVR recording of last night's show yet. I feel bad for Mike, as he was trying so hard in an awfully challenging situation. The "bacon burner" should have left. I didn''t realize what culinary snobs were still in contention, they were looking down on Mike for being a line cook. He needs to be voted the fan favorite.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
I personal liked the previews for next week - seems like a lot of drama, or red herrings of drama!!

Good Point of Mike winning the challenges, and the judges themselves pointed out that marcel was almost a one hit wonder foam!! I think his biggest problem is his age, being young, less experienced in people skills, he comes across to me as very passive aggressive - almost like a bully... almost.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Hi Lexie--I like Marcel. I want him to win. And i think he has cool hair.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I am sorry Mike is gone. I think Marcel would probably be the biggest pain in the ass to work for/with and everything else. He needs to grow up.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Last week was last week. This week Michael AGAIN talked to the camera about siiding through as the line chef, just following orders and not taking responsibility, but he was the one to go buy the service pieces and again, blamed the "list" and that is fine but he's competing to be top chef and would need to be able to think .. what is on the menu and what do I need for it? He just seemed to be so proud of sliding .

And so he won last week and Betty went home, but Marcel shouldn't go home this week based on past foam. He didn't create foam this week, he had to put up with snarkiness about foam, but he created a winner in the quickfire and one winner in the regular challenge AND he had to put up with Cliff's rudeness as well and seemed to handle that pretty well.

He has a silly hairstyle but that hardly qualifies as HIM being "pompous", though I do understand that it is the first thing you see and I am also .. well I just have to wonder about it, but it isn't as odd looking as the hairstyle on the chef/judge. And really, I prefer seeing a whole range of hair styles instead of the robot like sameness of the classic IBM look, or even worse, the look of EDS employees back in the day of Ross Perot.

I think there are several of them much more like actual bullies than Marcel. Cliff, for one. I don't think I forgave him for having immunity and then being so controlling and bringing down his team in the next competition and he still shouts people down, or, as Elia says, shows no respect.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 5:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Meggie!!! How are you??

Rehtse
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08-17-2005

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 6:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rehtse a private message Print Post    
I totally disliked Cliff when he said "either one of these two" after he was asked who on his team he thought should go. He just said it with such a pompous air of superiority that I wanted to give him a swift kick in the butt...alas, I had some compassion for my t.v.

Cokegirl
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03-08-2004

Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 11:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cokegirl a private message Print Post    
I was upset that Marcel didn't go because of the raw chicken but I didn't care much for Michael. (he was growing on me though)