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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 9:27 am
Trace was an alcoholic, and that ended two marriages (it was his second wife that shot him). He says in his autobiography that he doesn't think she meant to.
quote: Born Tracy Darrell Adkins in Springhill, La., he worked oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico; found his voice playing gigs in honky-tonk dives in Texas and Nashville; struggled with alcoholism, which cost him two marriages, and cheated the Grim Reaper with five near-death incidents starting at age 17, when he plowed his car into a bus. The most dramatic incident came during an argument 14 years ago when his second wife shot him with a .38. The bullet passed through his lungs and heart. ("What my hunting buddies would call a kill shot.'") He staggered into his tiled Florida room for fear of bleeding on the carpet. "I thought, if I bleed on this new Berber carpet, she might shoot me again,'" he writes in his book.
http://www.azcentral.com/ent/tv/articles/0312adkins0312.html
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 10:26 am
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trace_Adkins for a discography. He's had more than one #1 hit and all but one of his albums have gone gold or platinum. He is well known and well respected within the country music community, although I don't believe he's won any country music awards (at least that I can recall). (Just looked on CMT and he won ACM best new male vocal back in '96. Which was about the time I first heard of him -- cuz I was dating a country music fan.)
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 10:31 am
Thanks, guys! Very interesting life he's had. I had to LOL at the berber carpet comment 
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 11:51 am
I loved Trace's comments throughout the show, especially about the needs of the BSBs and their rider! Very funny and funnier because I don't think he was meaning to be funny! I thought Piers should have won. I'm glad he did. Part of his reason for acting the way he did was to be ruthless like Trump and get the $ any way he could. He stated this off and on but Trump never acknowledged it. I do wonder though if Piers was given a better edit than how he was in real life. I also think on the likable factor, Trace would be tough to beat. I hope we've seen the last of Omarosa.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 1:22 pm
For a one time gig, Piers is your person. But in the business world, he ego and his methods will eventually turn people away. He would have no long term positive relationship - leading to less and less receptiveness and fewer dollars raised. Trace builds relationships and in subsequent charity events he would be able to bring out his friends over and over again. So it's all about the tortise or the hare - for this short of contest, the hare wins. But if this was for a real job in a fundraising corporation? I'd place my money on the tortise.

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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 3:54 pm
i sort of agree the the tortoise/hare analogy, but in fairness to Piers, his ability to cultivate relationships was demonstrated by his rolodex and donors. i wonder what Trump was thinking when Trace kept suggesting that he didn't know any wealthy people in the country music world. it was an entertaining finale, Trace was a hoot, but I still think Carol deserved to win. I remember Piers saying a couple of pretty (surprisingly) bone-headed things during the presentations that showed some real business naivete. as far as I can remember though, Carol was always sharp....and Erin Burnett, as I recall, was also impressed with her business mind.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 5:17 pm
Carol was definitely not sharp when they did the QVC comp. MAJOR mistake for someone who worked for QVC not to think of easy pay. Trump wanted her fired then but she wasn't brought into the boardroom. I think Trump just never got over that.
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Carlpsmom
Member
01-03-2004
| Saturday, March 29, 2008 - 6:04 pm
Carol should have been gone that week. Marilu made a major mistake.
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Hooters
Member
08-26-2006
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 9:02 am
IMO Carol never really did anything to help until the othes had been weeded out & only a few remained. The QVC should have been her final show. Marilu was protecting her & it cost her her job. I don't have a problem with the final two, just wished Trace had one.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 9:34 am
I know you can be ruthless in business and be a charming person also in your real life. When I have problems with companies I am ruthless using everthing I can think of but I am a nice person. My family tells me that I can't get anywhere and sometimes it takes a long time but I get it done. With the computer you can find the home address of any corporate officer/director. Piers came into this contest to accomplish a job and he did just that. If he was as bad as everyone thinks, his rolodex would not have been so fat with friends that came through. I loved Trace and the exposure will take his charity and himself a long way. I hope they do a follow up on how much money is raised for his charity and I hope he's interviewed on many shows. He's a class guy.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 10:13 am
Someone's relationship with another person is different if it's a personal relationship or a business one. I agree with the tortoise and the hare analogy... Piers would not be so successful three years down the road because people (businesses or charities) would not want to deal with him. Trace, OTOH, would continue to do what he does and would win in the long run. BTW, I absolutely disagree that you have to be an arse to win. Ethics aside (and I think Piers' ethics were questionable on this show), it's unnecessary to be an absolute <76> to succeed. If Piers was trying to emulate Trump, well, he went far and above what was necessary. You do catch more flies with honey than vinegar.
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Mamabatsy
Member
08-05-2005
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 11:33 am
Piers didn't come close to Trump in ruthlessness. Trump is as bad as the old school moguls in being ruthless. Piers has been raising money for charities for far longer than three years and he knows just who to hit up for each situation. The difference between Trace and Piers is not good guy v bad guy, it's that Trace has not been in the raising money for charity world very long. His daughter is only six years old and I don't think he's ever been involved in any type of fund raising before other than FANN. Piers said that the reason he knows the Duchess of York is that they work on the same charities in Great Britain. He is in that world and knows who to play for which cause.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 1:03 pm
IMO Carol never really did anything to help until the othes had been weeded out & only a few remained. The QVC should have been her final show. Marilu was protecting her & it cost her her job. Carol was the first PM to lead the women's team to a victory, in week 5. All of her remaining teammates at the time had loses under their belts as PMs. She overcame not only internal competition and neg momentum and morale, but a very distracting sabotage attempt by Piers. She defeated him as PM, and it was a strong win, too -- the Crocs execs looked very pleased. The QVC task in week 8 was Marilu's second loss as PM. She said she chose not to bring Carol back into the boardroom because she did the best job, and had the best work ethic. Even Piers complained that Lennox was hungover and not helpful. IMO, Carol was unfairly scapegoated with the ez-pay. Anyone on the team could have asked QVC if they offered staggered payment options. It's not like its a novel concept unique to QVC.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 1:11 pm
so I couldnt stomach the last two shows...not after seeing Trump's comments about wanting the "men" to fight it out. The look on both Carol and Ivanka's faces said what I was thinking too. Good Ol Boys club anyways, I noticed in a prev post about Trace's history. Wow, that explains alot about his behaviour and why his kids are so young. I dont think I believe the shot thru the heart routine tho. Medically speaking that is impossible UNLESS he was technically dead and was rushed to OR in the less than ten mins. once the heart is ruptured, thats it.
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Kittystj
Member
08-10-2001
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 1:35 pm
Personally I never thought Piers put down the US. He was labled as the Evil Brit whilst Trace was showered with flowers and praise. Made out to always be the villian. Get real, this was about raising money and business. And why oh why, if Trace is so popular, didn't he call on his rich, country friends. He is in the US...Piers even called pals in England. Another thing, what is with the continuing wearing of his stetson hat indoors? Tacky infront of ladies and professionals. So glad Piers one. Ring up one for the UK.
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Woofy
Member
08-09-2001
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 1:54 pm
So? Are we ever going to have to see Omarosa again?
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 3:22 pm
Woofy...SHHHHHHHH!!!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 4:03 pm
If we ever do, it'll be entirely too soon! I'd be interested to know exactly how long Piers has been involved with the Intrepid Fallen Heroes fund. I strongly suspect a calculated choice of charities. Whereas I believe Trace has been involved with FAAN for quite some time. (I also like how they've provided a download link to his iTunes song on their home page.) I still think Trace should have won. Take away the three $100K bids (and two were from Cantor Fitzgerald) and they would've been a lot closer in raising funds. Something like $76K to Trace's $68K. Then with ticket sales, Trace outperformed (even if you double Piers' ticket sales, he still would've fallen far short of Trace). Finally, if anyone is interested, Trace Adkins is performing at Vieja's Casino Concerts in the Park on May 15th. Tix are a platry $55.00.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 6:47 pm
Oh that's neat, Costa! I am guessing he'll be getting an especially warm welcome now that people have seen him on Apprentice. LOL about the hats.. they seem to become part of the head with "cowboys" (or country singers and fans). I used to go to Willie Nelson concerts fairly often and always feared I'd get a seat in back of some big dude in a big hat, but never did. (I did get in back of some annoyingly big hats at tennis matches a time or two and a friend, who had season seats directly in back of Barry Gordie's season seats, one time was amazed to be sitting in back of Barry and Diana Ross who had huge hair AND a huge hat).
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 7:18 pm
Many country stars wear hats all of the time. It's their "thing" and it is by no means disrespectful (<76>Trace doffed his hat when he was introduced during the live finale). That said, however, there are quite a few freaking hot country men wearing hats, who are not quite so hot once they take their hats off. So I say "keep 'em on" and let us keep our fantasies!
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, March 30, 2008 - 9:13 pm
LOL
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Monday, March 31, 2008 - 6:30 am
Costa ain't that the truth. Everytime Tim Mcgraw takes his hat off I say PUT IT BACK ON!! lol
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Mummy35332
Member
09-09-2005
| Monday, March 31, 2008 - 7:23 am
Since my post below has scrolled so far away it took me a while to find it myself I am reposting it. I want you to know that FAAN has written back to me and will track all donations given in Trace's name. Again if it were not for this organization my son would be dead. I have started an email go round (yes I hate them too) and I urge you to do the same to get donations for this charity. Mummy35332 Member 09-09-2005 Thursday, March 27, 2008 - 10:59 pm -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think we can still help Trace win for his charity. We can each send whatever we can afford to FAAN. Write Trace Adkins on the memo line of your check or mention his name if you call. Just $10 (think bigger if your wallet is larger) from everyone we know passed over and over would out do what Piers did. This is a really good charity and the only reason my son is still alive. They taught me what I needed to know before most people had even heard of life threatening allerigies. Pass this around to all of your family and friends. Let the big wigs know that the little guy can make a difference too. How to contact The Food Allergy & Anaphylaxis Network Via E-mail faan@foodallergy.org Via Mail 11781 Lee Jackson Hwy., Suite 160 Fairfax, VA 22033-3309 Via Phone 800-929-4040 Via Fax 703-691-2713
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Monday, March 31, 2008 - 9:27 am
For a one time gig, Piers is your person. But in the business world, he ego and his methods will eventually turn people away. He would have no long term positive relationship - leading to less and less receptiveness and fewer dollars raised. You could easily be describing Donald Trump with that quote. <100> Trace is a nice guy, but Piers blew everybody else out of the water. He did everything he could to win. Wasn't that the whole point of the show? To win challenges and raise money for charity? He was awesome at that, and in fact, had the biggest "slaughter" of an opposing team ever on this show (ha ha, Omarosa!). I loved him and I fully expected him to win. I only wish they'd shown Omarosa's face when he was declared the winner! The BS with the BSB was very obviously scripted to make the show more entertaining. Aaron Carter (or is it Nick?) almost seemed to be suppressing giggles when he kept asking about the wheat grass juice. That would easily be found at a juice bar, and Carol Alt would know that since she's a raw foods advocate. Nail polish emergency? I don't think so. The writers dreamed that up for drama. Trace may be a nice guy, but Piers deserved and earned the win.
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Cokegirl
Member
03-08-2004
| Monday, March 31, 2008 - 10:51 am
ITA Baby. Piers didn't bother me in the way in played the game. I think he did a great job. I totally give him props for getting rid of she who will not be named! LOL
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