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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 1:44 pm
Oh that sounds like a real winner, Boy George did really well when Rosie opened a broadway show for him So who is going to sue who first when it all craps out???
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Christiii
Member
07-07-2005
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 2:43 pm
why in the heck didnt they do a reunion show?? this cast would have been awesome!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 2:50 pm
ROFL!!!!!!! Maris!
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Luvscoutii
Member
07-21-2005
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 2:53 pm
Marcel is very much into molecular gastronomy. Chef Coliccio made a comment at the end that he felt it had a valid place in the kitchen. I thought some of the things Marcel was doing with his food was interesting and something one doesn't see all the time. Foam was apparently his thing as Paprika was Ilan's. I too got tired of constant bad mouthing of Marcel. I thought the way he reacted to it with barely any reaction egged on the others to try and get a reaction. It felt like it became a mob mentality with the other chefs when the bad mouthing fest started. It is a competition and no one has to go in making friends. I think they did too many group challenges which might have led to creating cliques. The first season wasn't as bad in terms of one villain being identified and everyone ganging up on them although it was there to an extent. Can't wait to see what happens next season.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 3:38 pm
The first season Tiffany was the villian, except all she was was disliked, no one attacked her or bad mouthed her all the time, they just seemed to express a wish not to work with her. I think the chefs were more mature.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 3:40 pm
I liked how he was doing those little drops of sugar. That looked really cool.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 4:55 pm
I want to see a competition between Stephen and Tiffany and Marcel. Let's see who can out-snob who. LOL
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 4:59 pm
The first season, the chef's were definitely more mature (and more evolved as chefs). And although most of 'em didn't like the way Tiffany ran a kitchen, she was not disliked as unanimously as Marcel was (by the chefs and by the public). I don't think Tiffany belongs in that comp, Twinkie. But definitely Stephen and Marcel. That would be HYSTERICAL!!! Could you see those two describing their dishes at a dinner event? The entire assemblage would be snoring, and starving!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 5:07 pm
I don't think Marcel is unanimously disliked by the public at all. Wasn't the vote something like 46-54 (in favor of Ilan)?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 5:09 pm
The numbers started switching after that little bit with Cliff. Until then, the numbers were way more in favor of the other chefs.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 5:20 pm
What numbers?? That would be hysterical watching/listening to Stephen and Marcel together!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 5:49 pm
Could you just SEE the two of them together? I think they might self-emplode or something. I wonder if Stephen saw himself in Marcel (assuming that he deigned to watch this season, natch).
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Gemma120in2002
Member
07-05-2003
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 6:55 pm
At the end of last season Stephen saw himself the way other people see him. I'm quite certain that there were people everywhere who told him what a horse's behind he was. He appologized to Candace for his horrible behavior and he appologized to everyone else for behaving so badly. I think that Top Chef was a very good growing experience for Stephen. I don't think Marcel will get the same thing from it that Stephen did because of the physical attack and the constant nastiness he had to deal with.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 7:52 pm
I too got tired of constant bad mouthing of Marcel. I thought the way he reacted to it with barely any reaction egged on the others to try and get a reaction. I think you are spot on with that observation. That is what I like and respect about Marcel. The way he DOES NOT react to all of the attacks. It is so......dignified. Honestly, by his "not reacting" it makes everyone else seem all the more childish. But sadly I agree that it probably egged the "mob" on. Innovative, cutting-edge, thoughtful, creative, inventive use of flavors. These words were used to describe Marcel's cooking according to the judges. It's funny because I always end up liking the contestants with these qualities. When it comes down to it, innovation is where it counts IMO. To break into the cooking world in a successful way this is necessary. Now, cooking skill can be learned and progressed by anyone, but cutting-edge creativity is unique to one's personality. Marcel has these qualities, he has shown them since the beginning. Ilan, while cooking good food, has rarely if ever been considered thoughtful or inventive. One of the chefs at the table said that Marcel "has amazing potential, and he is somebody to watch for" Chef Tom said: "In the future one of you may go on to be the superior chef, but in the end our decision was based on who we believe,to be the best chef right now." It is OBVIOUS that in the first part of his statement he is referring to Marcel and in the second part he meant Ilan. I was pleased to know that Tom as well as I, see Marcel as being the superior chef in the future. But I really wish he could have won now!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 8:12 pm
Cricket -- did you, by chance, read Tom's blog this week? He explains his comment about not caring what happened in the kitchen. Based on you comment a couple pages back, I know it rubbed you the wrong way, and his explanation was straightforward and clearly articulated. Enjoyed the ending, but wasn't cheering loudly for either one, so wasn't terribly excited (or disappointed) in the outcome. It WAS nice to finally see a focus on the food for a change. 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 8:15 pm
True, have you heard the comments Marcel made after the show??!! He certainly wasn't a gentleman then.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 8:34 pm
Whoops -- also meant to add that I'm with those in the fresh food sans chemicals group of eaters. Good food, fresh food, creative food, but leave out the chemicals, please... I saw Ilan's style as similar to Dave's from season one. (Remember his truffle macaroni and cheese?) They both focused on pleasing the customer AND kicking it up a notch. That means that they rarely hit one outta' the park, but their creativity is more likely to please the customer and they have fewer strike-outs. Both styles have their place, obviously, but I'd feel safer eating at Ilans' kitchen than Marcel's.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 8:47 pm
LOL Tex, I knew someone would challenge me about that!! Yeah he did say some stuff at the end. (although I didn't see it) I'm not surprised nor do I blame him for a few bitter comments. He had a crappy ride on the show and then he lost. It would be hard to remain a "perfect" gentlemen. I am more impressed with his reaction throughout the WHOLE show. With people like Betty and Ilan making rude comments and attacking his character everyday I'm sure it built up. However he continued to keep his focus on the food he was producing. At the time of the show he really needed to keep his focus on the food competition. Now that it is no longer an issue, many things that were said and done (the head shaving incident) are probably coming to the surface. He is obviously (reasonably) angry. So I don't think a handful of comments will ruin his character. IMO 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 8:53 pm
he was really ticked! made Elia's bad sportsmanship look mild.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 9:33 pm
Teach, I just went and read Tom's blog. Thanks for letting me know about it. I guess a lot of people weren't happy with his comment and let him know, including his wife, lol. If the way he truly feels is as he said in his blog, and he more or less said something about it in the Finale..re a Top Chef has to get along with everyone in the kitchen, it might have been kinder for him to at least acknowledge the previous week the fact that Marcel can't get along with anyone and thus, wouldn't make it with his own restaurant. Marcel truly felt he should have won and they owed it to him to let him know he needs to change his attitude/actions when working with others. From the recent posts I read there, people aren't happy with Elan winning. As I stated earlier, the judges ensured that no one was going to be enticed into really caring/watching the finale. It was a snooze.
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Brian2204
Member
09-14-2004
| Thursday, February 01, 2007 - 11:52 pm
Hey Texannie...where are M's aftershow comments?
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Jewelthief
Member
01-31-2007
| Friday, February 02, 2007 - 12:02 am
I LOVE MARCEL... I am very mad that he lost,Ilan didnt deserve to win.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, February 02, 2007 - 2:02 am
You know, it is kind of funny. So many people have said in relation to Marcel's behavior that it was the food, not his actions in the kitchen that should be considered. But they do not give the same benefit to the others. If you are only going to judge Marcel on his food, then you should only judge Ilan on his. The person who did the best job with their food deserves to win or the game would be a joke. We often get wrapped up in who we want to win because of who we like, and because of their behavior, and that is fine. However, I don't think there is sny such thing as deserving to win or lose based on anything except what the rules of the given game call for. I did not like Ilan much better than Marcel, but I believe he deserved to win because the judges decided he did the best job. And I got the distinct impression that they would have perferred Marcel to win, but just could not justify it.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, February 02, 2007 - 2:09 am
I have to defend Elia a little in her comments about Ilan winning. She did not just volunteer that she thought Ilan should win. Tom asked her if she thought he should win. Tom knew she had not had a chance to taste the night's food and she would have to base it on previous things. So why did he ask her such a question and then jump on her because of her answer. I thought that was very unfair. He did not ask the others that, he ask them how it was to work with Marcel. It was almost as though he was setting her up. I felt very queasy about that incident.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Friday, February 02, 2007 - 4:47 am
Allietex, I so agree with your post. I felt really bad for Elia and Tom put her on the spot... specially knowing that English is not the best way for her to express himself.
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