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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Nope, it is not that they don't use them because it is a show - it is because most kitchens DON'T use them. If you have visions of hairnets and caps - you need to revise them or eat at home!!!

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
The biggest unrealistic issue is that the entire restaurant is seated at the SAME TIME.
In real life you get two or three tables seated, then a pause, then another couple, pause, etc.
And you are making appetizers, entrees & desserts througout the night (not all appetizers first before starting entrees, etc).
This service is what you get at conferences, galas, weddings, etc. And those are meals where EVERYTHING is premade and kept warm for service (with all getting the same appetizer, maybe 2 choices for entrees, and all the same dessert.
So they are pre-set up to fail every time.


Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 9:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Hmmm, I worked in a very large Bakery for 17yrs and we had to wear hairnets, We also had to wear latex gloves...I hated it buy you got use to it...actualy I loved the latex gloves working in all that batter/frosting and dough all the time...

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Tntitan, I do eat at home, I am an excellent cook and baker. In NV, hair restraints are required.

Jodied75
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08-26-2004

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 10:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jodied75 a private message Print Post    
I agree, Konamouse, that the seating arrangements are highly unrealistic.

One thing I've wondered, if the actor/diners who dare personally complain to Ramsay get paid a bonus, as they are sure to be insulted and screamed at. And is that scripted, or do they take it upon themselves to approach him? I'd only do it if I were allowed to chuck at roll (or a Beef Wellington) at him, lol.

I admit I've never eaten Beef Wellington, nor have I even noticed it on a menu. I just wish HK could have a little more variety.

I worked in a restaurant as well (The Marche in Toronto), and we didn't wear hairnets, but we all had these ridiculously European-themed outfits, which included hats that always had to be worn. (All cooking was in the open). And all long hair had to be tied back. And we always wore gloves.

Greenie
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06-13-2007

Thursday, June 28, 2007 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Greenie a private message Print Post    
Gloves only give you an illusion of safety. I've seen people wearing their gloves taking out the trash, handle money, etc. and then go right back and touch the food. Same with cross contamination, seen them cut up veggies, with their gloves, handle various meats, and then right back into another prep, with their gloves on.

I watched this happen in a big kitchen, one you could see into from the floor. And when I asked to see the manager, made him just observe for a few minutes, he didn't notice what I was talking about.

When I'm at subway - I ask them to remove their gloves cause they are the absolute worst about doing all the above things.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, June 29, 2007 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I changed my gloves a buzzillion times in a day...for me it was more about me..LOL. I hated having frosting batter dough stuck in my nails and its not easy to clean..In a scratch bakery your hands/up to your elbows are always either greasy,sticky,food color dye... ugg... It was the rule to wear them..but I swear I went thru a box a day... starting fresh with every next project...
I do agree Greenie though that in some places "cooks" can get very sloppy or careless...but they are under so much pressure..I will just say that it is a very labor intense job, mentally and physically...It can turn a normal person crazy...

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, June 29, 2007 - 6:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Kstme - off the topic, are you coming to the Vegas meet?

On the topic, I just love the fact that Julia settles down and slogs through whatever is there to be done!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, June 29, 2007 - 6:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
That stuff about the gloves made me laugh. You see that all the time. People put on gloves, make sandwiches and then handle cash and money while wearing the same gloves. It's absurd.

Kstme
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08-14-2000

Friday, June 29, 2007 - 7:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kstme a private message Print Post    
Tntitan, off topic. No, I am hoping I will be able to attend the next meet, but due to some family matters, I just can't go this year. I know everyone will have a fantastic time!

On topic...ditto the glove situation!

Trini
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07-06-2004

Friday, June 29, 2007 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
Tntitan, Kstme off topic: I hope you have a good time..
On Topic: I hope Julia wins it all. I miss MO!!

Glenrie
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03-24-2006

Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Glenrie a private message Print Post    
My daughter is in culinary school and they seat for lunch and dinner just like Hell's Kitchen. Lunch at noon and dinner at 7. They have an open kitchen also. The only thing they're missing is the swearing! lol

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
My wife and I went to dinner a few years ago at a restaurant that is staffed by a culinary school. It was a wonderful experience. It was quite amusing and fulfilling to see people cook and serve properly and try so darn hard. There was no tipping but you absolutely had to fill in your comment card.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 3:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
they do this at the local CIA here

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 3:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Our tour group went to a culinary school restaurant in New Zealand. The food was delicious and the presentations gorgeous, but the service was VERY slow!

Riviere
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09-09-2000

Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Riviere a private message Print Post    
Don't see Dining in the Dark a reward... Isn't it all about aroma, presentation, taste? If I can't see my food or silverware or server, I'm so out of there!!! Dark is senses off, listen for a predator. The palate cannot experience food when the stomach churns. This "chic" dining reward is agony to watch.
I want diners to see my food, not sniff for it, what was Ramsay thinking???

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Riviere, what are you talking about "dining in the dark?"



Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
On the show as a reward, Ramsey took the women to a restaurent that serves food in pitch dark conditions. Supposedly that allows the people to truly experience the taste of the food.

The only problem with the above as Riviere pointed out is that taste is only one aspect of enjoyment.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
If I had to eat in the dark and wound up putting something like a beet in my mouth, I'd barf in the dark!

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - At least no one would see you!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 11:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I watched the show this week. I don't know how I missed the Dining in the Dark reward.



Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 4:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
is that dining in the dark restaraunt in chicago? I so remember seeing this on some news/magazine type program! I missed this week - last week - drat!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The restaurant that Ramsey took 'em to was, I think, Opaque. And it plays up all of the OTHER senses besides sight. It's supposed to be quite an experience, and I was going to go last summer. (Last summer I was dating a blind man, and we thought it'd be a kick if we BOTH couldn't see where we were.)

Opaque employs visually empaired people, too.

There are people who freak out, and they are allowed to leave. But from what I understand, most people finally relax and allow themselves to truly enjoy the meal and the conversation at their table.

I'd do it in a flash, even though blind beau is no longer in the picture!

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Monday, July 02, 2007 - 5:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
I would certainly be willing to try this place! It sounds intriguing -

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, July 02, 2007 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
"I'd do it in a flash, even though blind beau is no longer in the picture!"

I read that as I'd do it in the flesh. I thought hmmmmm why the heck not. LOL I got my morning giggle, thanks.

It's sounds interesting but dang, I like to see my food.}