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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I don't want Marcel to win. I want him to get THIS CLOSE and lose. As does Landi, I think he's a brat.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Well at least he never participated on a "ganging up" type attack. (and please, the ones who did not touch him were just as guilty as Cliff. They all conspired together and knew it was going on. But did nothing to stop it.)

He might have been a smart aleck but I never saw anything downright nasty.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Marcel is not innocent in all of this.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I don't want Marcel to win. If EVERYONE doesn't like someone there is a good reason and even his "friend" Elia turned on him. There has to be a reason he was on everybody's last nerve. I never liked him from the beginning and I don't like him now. I really wanted Sam to win.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
Growing up with three brothers and having spent most of my career in education, I can say with some experience that sometimes all it takes for a group of people to dislike someone is for that person to be different. The gang mentality I have seen, frankly, fluctuates between embarrassing and scary. Sam is the "cool kid" who sits back and pokes at everyone to get them going. Ilan is the kid on the fringe who will go out of his way to pick on the outsider to prove how much he is a part of the in group. Elia blows with the wind, knowing if she doesn't play along, they'll go after her next, so she plays the helpless female ready to give up at any minute. Cliff was the dumb jock who didn't realize until it was too late how he was manipulated into getting kicked out of the game (surely you don't think Sam sat back and watched because he didn't want to be involved; I wouldn't be surprised to know he was thinking all along, "there goes another one.")

Yes, Marcel is annoying, but so are the rest of them. I haven't seen behavior on his part that in anyway deserves the abuse he has gotten -- nothing deserves that. Yet he repeatedly produces results even in the heat of that abuse. Even Sam says at the last challenge every table was saying how much they enjoyed Marcel's food. Sam may have won more challenges, but Marcel stepped it up a notch when it counted.

Personally, I would have loved to see a Marcel/Sam finale.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
You are talking about children. They are adults. And if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck. There is a reason nobody liked Marcel. Hell, a lot of us don't like him and we didn't have to live with him. Are we also going on gang mentality?

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
Hey I was just happy to see Betty gone. Dont care who wins.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
These people may be "adults," but they act like children. If you don't think this same behavior goes on with adults, you've never been a union member...

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
... or worked for insecure, neurotic, manic-depressive attorneys...



Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Excellent post Prisoner! Good points.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
...you don't think this same behavior goes on with adults, you've never been a union member...

:-) :-)
Or, you've never been around more than two dozens Irish-Italian cousins and be one of the two who's not. (The other one is my Iranian bil. We were both born and bred in our perspective mother land.) The two of us takes turns in the dog house, or feel guilty, if ykwIm!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
but how does that explain the distaste i had for him from the beginning..even before the 'gang' ganged up on him?

Darrellh
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07-21-2004

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darrellh a private message Print Post    
This is from Reality-blurred:

"Of his competitor, Ilan says, “I knew he had skills, and you want to win the money, but that’s not the reason I wanted him out. It was his attitude. … On the first day of taping, when we were waiting to go on camera, Marcel said to me in his little ridiculous voice, ‘Lights, camera, action, yeah?’ I wanted to elbow him.”

Separate article:
"Ilan recently bragged to New York Magazine about his homophobic taunting of Marcel during the competition: “This didn’t air, but he had to make this dish about lust and I told him that he’s never lusted after a woman, all he does is go home and jerk off thinking about Joël Robuchon. And the only thing he could think of as a comeback was, ‘I don’t jerk off to Joël Robuchon.’ That was it!”
And Ilan also said Marcel was “always talking down to other people’s techniques and always questioning, and not in a creative way or constructive way. Everything is always insultory … if that’s a word.” Sam says Marcel was Marcel was “Much, much worse. The past couple of episodes they’ve made him seem like some sort of a sweetheart. … I mean, I hope he watches the show and picks up some social skills along the way.”


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Marcel said to me in his little ridiculous voice, ‘Lights, camera, action, yeah?’ I wanted to elbow him.”

Yeah, that's an awesome reason to hate with such passion... Jeeze, there have been plenty of people I have known or worked with that would be very annoying to me and others, but I never ganged up against them. I would just roll my eyes and get on with my own business...

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And why would Ilan even tell that story about him picking on Marcel about never lusting over a woman. In that story, Ilan is totally the bully. The only thing negative that is shows about Marcel is that he did not have a quick comeback!

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Heads UP!

If you don't want to know the result, stay away from all the BBs! It may be just rummer, but too many are saying the same thing......

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Chy... what are the BBs?



Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I finally found my way to the preview vids.
The fish! The fruits! The veggies! I want to live there now.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
Lexie, I thought it's the abbreviation of Bulletin Boards which we are posting at. No?

Chy
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07-19-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 1:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
I'm watching the final from S1 right now. It just dawn on me that, Stephen and Dave were practically sabotaging Tiffany. Even though I didn't like Tiff either, that is rather unfair that the two finalists had to rely on those who couldn't help to be sour/bitter to assist!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Chy, post the spoiler in a spoiler tag here! Pretty Please!!!!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Oh and Chy? I've got... The fish! The fruits! The veggies! here, too. I hate it when I travel cause I'm so spoiled with all the fresh goodies here.

Well, except lately. That danged freeze we had really ruined the strawberry crop. And I'm afraid my local farmer's market is gonna have a shortage of avocados here and soon. <sigh>

I haven't liked Marcel since the beginning. It's not "gang mentality". It's just plain dislike. And if you recall, there were quite a few chefs who were sorta holding back waiting to see if Marcel's attitude or personality would change, or soften, for lack of a better word. It didn't. And I firmly believe that folks just plain got tired of his snarky little comments, too!

Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
Oooohh I want a spoiler tag as well! I can't wait for the final ... it's gonna be good. Yep, I'm one of the people who actually want Marcel to win but I think Ilan will give him a run for the money!!!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
Click below to view spoiler
Reality Blurred is reporting that Food and Wine Magazine accidentally leaked that Ilan won


Dlmmo
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11-20-2003

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dlmmo a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
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Ladytex beat me! Here's the link if anyone wants to read the article. http://la.eater.com/archives/2007/01/29/breaking_top_chef_finale_spoiled_again.php


Vacanick
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07-12-2004

Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 5:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vacanick a private message Print Post    
What can I say ... I still think it's going to be a good final. Thanks Ladytex and Dlmmo!