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Cricket
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08-05-2002

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
The judges definitely do not ever comment on their life in the house, etc. At least with Survivor we know that Jeff is informed of the stuff that goes on and casually brings it up in tribal council...lol
The Reds are just so weird, it's painful to watch them.


Right, Panda. I wonder if those judges will realize how silly they look when they see themselves on the show. They positively adore the mean ones. It would be comical if it wasn't so sad.

I completely agree with you re the Redheads. Wow, the daughter had the weirdest/meanest look on her face when she realized she was in the bottom two.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But to put another spin on it... there's the team with the mom with the kidney transplant and the team with no home/cars. So these two teams are trying to play the pity card. I totally disliked the fact that the team with no home was really working on that angle.

And the final snippets from last week were correct as to who was cutting the sash and who was desashed.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Based on his comments, I actually think that Carson gets the campiness of what they are doing. Some of his comments seem tongue in check to me. Last night, Carson was light and fluffy in some of his comments. It's the 2 women judges who would bring back to the pageant 'seriousness'.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 11:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
It has been bugging me for weeks who the redhead daughter looks like. I've been going through every TV show that I watch in my head to think of an actress who looks like her and I'm stumped.

Another thing which puzzled me about the team that said they lost their home and barely had two cars that work. Does the show provide them with suits, gowns, etc.?


Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
I was wondering about those things too, Lexie_girl. They looked pretty well done up for people with nothing. That pageant stuff does not come cheap and unless you find sponsors with deep pockets those pageant fees, travel expenses, etc. can run into a lot also. Not to mention the time off from whatever they weren't doing at home to make money to support themselves.

I, for one, do not like them being encouraged to play up the "woe is me" for a "beauty" pageant. Your home life and circumstances have nothing to do with the competition IMO.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 12:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    
The only team I like is the Dream Girls. Everyone else just annoys me.

But then, I'm easily annoyed.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
I'm with you, Prisoner. Although I really detest the mean teams, the only team I actually like is Hollis and her mom. I have a feeling it's going to be this team vs. the evil "Beauty is Skin Deep but Ugly Goes All the Way to the Bone".

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Ok, which ones are the goal driven gals, when I went to cwtv.com to look at the cast no on has that name, LOL!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The CW site uses their "original" names. I think Goal Driven used to be known as Blond Bombshells.

BTW, the Daredevil Divas? Um, if they are so poor and homeless, how has Jenileigh managed to compete in so many pageants? From her bio on CWTV.com:

quote:

"I started doing pageants when I was 9. I competed in the Cinderella Scholarship program for five years and won the Utah State title. I competed for Miss Teen Utah USA and made the top five. Upon moving to California, I competed in the Miss America program, where I won the titles of Miss Anaheim and Miss Orange County and went on to compete for Miss California. I then moved to Wyoming and won Miss Wyoming, which qualified me to compete for Miss America in January 2007, where I made history as the first aerialist to compete on the Miss America stage."




Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
They can get businesses or whoever to sponsor them or they have to come up with the money themselves. Sometimes the sponsors find a girl they like and offer to sponsor them. In 1987 or so I know someone who was in the Miss America pageant (I think it was) and besides the clothes, shoes and all that stuff, she needed over $6,000 for her trip to LA for the competition. It's not cheap.

I just think it's distasteful to whine about how broke they are in this competition and I don't like how they are being encouraged to whine about their troubles to help them win. And, then, when one of them did, one of the judges said something about how they weren't going to crown them because they were needy. Huh? Make up your minds.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with Nerovh lol

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Its also possible they lost everything at once. Most people are 2 paychecks away from living on the street. I think that's what they say.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think there is a difference about having a backstory with struggles that you are overcoming versus standing there and essentially asking for a free handout. Shanna is the one who said they weren't gonna give 'em the crown cause they were needy.

And I do think the reason the one team won was just because they had issues that were OUTSIDE their own lives. I mean, if I'm gonna vote for someone, I want that someone to represent me. If the needy ones win a crown, what are they gonna represent? They'll take the money and run.

There was another team who pulled the same sob story. I want the money to give my family a better life. So this entire contest is all about the money. Well, yeah, OK, I'll buy that, but please don't pull the "I'm more needy than you" card. That kind of thing... if you are so frickin' needy go get a job. I think Burger King has a position open for a burger flipper! <grin>

In a pageant, even a fake one, you have to have issues with which you are concerned and want to help improve upon. And your own personal issues don't qualify. Sorry.

Sportsfan
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09-03-2007

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sportsfan a private message Print Post    
I recall hearing that that was the case Twinkie

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
i guess that i'm a sap.

their story seems like an experience that's just overtaken them. the emotions to me seem genuine so i was supposing that the events that led to their current situation were rather fresh and rather traumatic.

Nerovh
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06-11-2005

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 8:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nerovh a private message Print Post    
To be honest, even if "Skin Deep" claimed they were going to give all the prize money to the cutest orphans in the world, I wouldn't want them to win a dime.

I think their video was the best, BUT I think they are the best at snowing the judges. They have come across as two of the most truly mean-spirited people I've seen on reality tv, and that is saying a lot. This team has not displayed one second of "beauty" of any sort. I just wish the judges would see how horribly they have behaved towards others.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I'm not saying I like the skin deep team, but their vlog WAS the best. It did exactly what they were asked to do with it.

As to the homeless team, I'm not discounting their emotions or the reality of their situation. All I'm saying is, well, get a job. It just bugs me that people go on reality shows to get rich quick. Most of us, whether we are two paychecks away from the street or not, actually go out and look for employment. Even if the employment is "beneath" you. Most of us don't go on a reality show expecting to win with a sense of entitlement cause of their sob story.

BTW, which one of them, exactly, is homeless? Because they actually live in two different states, that mother and daughter.

Kady
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07-30-2000

Thursday, January 10, 2008 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kady a private message Print Post    
as much as i dislike skin deep, it seemed like they were the only ones that really understood the challenge.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

I just think it's distasteful to whine about how broke they are in this competition




I agree. But I think it's just as distasteful to brag about how rich you are, as the Beauty is Skin Deep team keeps doing.

Prisonerno6
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08-31-2002

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 4:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Prisonerno6 a private message Print Post    

quote:

Most of us don't go on a reality show expecting to win with a sense of entitlement cause of their sob story.




Of course not, But most of us also don't go on reality shows thinking we're going to find the love of our lives, become singing stars, or dance our way to fame. But thank heavens there are people that do, because if not, what would we have to talk about!

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
I agree with ...everyone!!

Can't stand skin deep but they DID understand the challenge better than the others and they seem to work well together.

Couldn't stand the teams that were trying to use their sob stories. They could have spinned in such a positive way if they had talked about wanting to help others that are homeless b/c they have been there and understand the struggles, blah blah, show homeless women and children that there is a way out, blah blah. Come on people!? It's not that hard.

And the other teams just made jokes and no mention of why they should win? hello...

oh well...I hope Skin deep doesn't win this thing

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 7:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
EXACTLY!!! I thought the same thing... that the issue they should've been concerned with was helping maybe homeless women, something like that. In fact, I was kinda sorta expecting them to say something like that and was very disappointed it was all ME ME ME!

Dovez
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08-27-2005

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dovez a private message Print Post    
i think that the producers have to be pushing these women to use their stories.
they are all surely chosen because they have storylines to be used and the producers wouldn't want anyone to forget what those stories are. otherwise, they would all blur into indistinguishable teams.

Chiliwilli
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09-04-2006

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chiliwilli a private message Print Post    
In an earlier episode one of the teams was mentioning their 'situation' in one of the competitions and was chastised by the judges. The judge stated she would not be crowning someone due to their neediness. Since that episode the judges seem to be telling them to use their personal issues in the comps. They need to make up their minds. ITA with whoever said they could be spinning their needy issues into something for all women/families having these problems instead of just a personal one.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, January 11, 2008 - 11:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
OK, so maybe the judges don't get to see how nasty the women are while living in the house. But were'nt they there to see the junior-high-school-mean-girl mentality of the Skin Deep Mom when she was openly taunting the other women when they were doing the challenge for keeping their composure? How can they see that, then gush on them about their personality?

Red-Headed Mom going, "what?" and acting all confused and surprised at being told to de-sash the other couple. Puhleeeze! They've seen it done before. There's no twist any more at that point. Stop the theatrics.

Oh, and while we're on the subject of theatrics....the hysterical sobbing-tear-streaked-faces as the eliminated couple is getting de-sashed.....

Red-headed daughter looks like someone who has been in control of Mom for quite a while. That look on her face when Mom started answering the judges questions. And then she berated her later, to the point of giving me the impression that she had not given Mom permission to talk, and was letting her know all about it.

Oh, and did anyone catch the line in the VLOG from the kidney transplant pair (really, I can't remember any of these people's names and such)....daughter said her mother was a "living survivor" of a kidney transplant. Living survivor huh? Isn't anyone who has survived a transplant also someone who is living? Or have I missed something there?