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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 10:16 pm
Good luck with the pipe leaks and mold, Biscotti.
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Milosmom
Member
06-10-2006
| Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 10:19 pm
TMZ is reporting the show may be filmed overseas next season due to states not wanting to deal with the controversy. http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/02/kid-nation-to-go-overseas/
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 10:29 pm
Dogdoc, I'm sure some adult was standing nearby with a gun if he had charged and the animal would have been killed for nothing but kids teasing it.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Saturday, October 06, 2007 - 10:55 pm
Thanks Juju. Pretty bad times. Insurance & Class Action Lawsuit because they used defective resin in the pipes (1986). My sis is flying up from Phx in a day or two, cause I'm falling apart. Hopefully (dam the torpedos, full steam ahead) the contractors will tear my house apart next week to slow the mold. Plumber says EVERY pipe in my house must be replaced. Needing to wash everything with bleach. I'm too tired to even watch much TV. Oh Well. Gosh, I smell so bad - so bleeeeeachy! Gets into the pores. Looking forward to seeing my Sis! Talking happy talk, like KN and Survivor. Haven't had a chance to share many of the points you all have brought up. She always likes the 'goodies' I bring from TVCH. PS-hey, things COULD be worse. At least the weather (having to do it between rain showers) washing furniture and everything outside is WARMER than it would be in a month or two.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 8:03 am
Biscottiii, you are lucky to have a sister who is such a friend! Hang in there!
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 10:27 am
I am loving this show. As a teacher for the last 13 years, it reminds me so much of a classroom. I don't think the average parents has a clue about their child's behavior/presentation away from mommy and daddy.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 1:18 pm
I found this blog article featuring an interview with the show's producer. http://weblogs.variety.com/on_the_air/2007/08/kid-nation-prod.html It addresses a lot of the "controversial" issues. I had to sift through a lot of negative articles by oh-so-indignant columnists just to find it, but it confirms what we suspected. Those kids are exceptionally bright and were chosen for that reason. I really don't get why so many people were so freaked out about this show before it even aired. Did they think they were going to drop a bunch of five-year-olds in the wilderness to fend for themselves? I imagine if they take the kids to another country the homesickness issue will be that much worse. I appreciate the child labor laws that prevent the exploitation of children in sweat shops, but having a group of kids do chores in front of cameras for a month is hardly a reason to panic. Glenn, I clicked on Taylor's page to see what your were referring to but all I saw were some personal photos of her wearing tiaras and smiling at the camera. I didn't see any photos from the show in her bio. Is there another page of photos?
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Glenn
Member
07-05-2003
| Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 2:34 pm
Curlyq, if you click on the photos it will take you to another page that will have more photos. One other thing I gather from looking at all the different photo pages is that more photos will be added as the season progresses because all the current photos seem to be from only the previous episodes and none from future episodes.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Sunday, October 07, 2007 - 5:38 pm
Babyjaxmom ~ Biscottiii, you are lucky to have a sister who is such a friend! Hang in there! Thanks Babyjax! You are so right about that! Actually, you all gave me a GREAT idea. I've got a whole truck load of homemade quilts and bedding to take to the laundry, since THAT was the room where I stashed everything. (Big washers without the agitator is much easier on quilts, esp old ones sewn with pure cotton thread.) Maybe, if we do it together and quack KN & Survivor while waiting for suds to slosh, that would be a little more pleasant. Declared today as "Be Kind to Bisc Day!" It's pouring outside, anyways. Took a shower and made up some Comfort Food. Tuna Fish sandwiches always make me feel more secure like in my childhood. Maybe by tomorrow I can regroup and get back to the nightmare. Did get her bed made up with her favorite flannel sheets and did a pile of laundry, so I guess I did do something, tho. Bet those poor kids would give their 'eye teeth' for a tuna or PB&J sandwich right now! They should have been allowed the pizza! Instead of heating 3 cups of cocoa at a pop, they could boil enough water for everyone to have a cup faster. The pizza would have provided 'Comfort Food' and replenished their spirits better, lessen homesickness maybe. But, then again, can't remember. Maybe the cocoa only came with the microwave. Still think they all wanted the pizza anyway.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Monday, October 08, 2007 - 9:53 am
Eeoyore, that is pretty much my point. You can't really judge from a child's behavior what their long term behavior will be. Just because a child acts like a brat at eight, or even at 16, does not mean they will be a brat when they become adults. Sometimes it just takes longer for those parent's teachings to kick in. And kids are just like adults in that they are not always consistant. Even the brattiest kids can be nice and even the nicest can be brats. And Stacey, you are so right. I taught elementary kids for 31 years. Parents are sometimes just stunned when they find out how their kids behave away from them. I will never forget the wonderful mom who adamently announced that her little girl did NOT lie to her. Because she had always taught her that lying was wrong and that she would not be punished as long as she told the truth about something. I gently told her that, yes, her little girl did lie to her, but that it did not mean she was bad or that the mother was a bad mother, just that the little girl was a child whose values were still being formed. She left still unconvinced and a little angry. A few weeks later, she came by my room after class to tell me that she had been more observant since our talk and had caught her child in a blantant lie. She thanked me for cluing her in that while telling a lie is not acceptable, neither is it a sign that a child is going bad. I can watch this show knowing that probably every one of these kids are basically good kids put into a tough situation and edited to make "good TV." Even more than with the normal "reality" show, we need to take this one with a grain of salt. LOL
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Monday, October 08, 2007 - 3:17 pm
Nutritionists to make sure they were actually getting a balanced diet (I wondered if they might have brought in caterers behind the scenes.) Probably to give them advice on what to make, where to find the ingredients, and not to live on Macaroni & Cheese. I would suspect that most of these kids have never used a wood/coal burning stove, had no idea that biscuits didn't come from a refridgerator, or that pancakes could be made without a toaster or microwave oven. I'm still waiting for them to have to butcher something larger than a chicken. Or maybe they will just be given a side of deer or elk?

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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, October 08, 2007 - 3:44 pm
Thanks, Glenn. Now I see them. I have a feeling the kids just put in the personal photos, and it's the staff who will keep adding the other photos as the episodes air.
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Glenn
Member
07-05-2003
| Monday, October 08, 2007 - 5:18 pm
Kona, I agree that they are getting advice in some form about how to augment their menu with the limited can goods that we have been shown so far. The book that the town council reads at various times is one way I suspect that the adults who are observing the young people during the 40 days use to give them ideas of what direction to go next including what could be made a meal next. I also think that they will be faced with butchering something larger than a chicken before the 40 days are over. The two chickens were somewhat traumatic but wait until they are face to face with one of those young goats. Curlyq, if the kids put in the personal photos and the production staff put in the other pictures it would tend to take away from the claim that the bios were created and designed by the kids. It makes a good question as to who controls what.
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Bonbonlover
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:22 pm
10 is a tough age..the kids are trying to become independant and assert themselves, yet they still need a lot of guidance... so much can change ... even in a couple of months,,, I know my own kids have gone through periods where I ask myself where they came from..I ask them do they want to grow up to be such brats? But soon enough they grow out of that phase and I see glimpses of my sweet child...
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 6:42 am
I'm almost worried for Taylor now. The most recent ad on TV for it highlights her lack of work ethic, and superimposes her mean sounding little giggle a few times through the commercial (when its obvious she's not doing the giggle each time). I know she's not getting a very warm reception here (and I'm in agreement with most that she's not had very likable behavior). I assume that's probably the case elsewhere on the Net. So now I wonder.....is CBS capitalizing on the feedback they're getting about her, and using her bratty behavior to their advantage? Has her behavior been bad enough throughout the filming that they knew they'd have great footage on her? Or are they gathering up every ounce of bad footage they can find of her to make her the "good TV" catch of their show? Yes, she has displayed some very bad behavior. But she is only 10. Heaven knows even the most angelic kid can have a bad day, and could display a side of themself on camera that they'd regret later. Heck, deprive me of sleep, tire me out, frustrate the heck out of me and I can be quite the beyatch too, and I'm far removed from 10. Put me on camera on those days, and people could easily be led to believe I'm like that all the time. So, here's what I plan on doing. For the simple reason that CBS is actually advertising Taylor to be a brat with no work ethic for tonight's show, I'm going to watch the show with an open and sympathetic mind. I'm not going to let CBS lead me by the nose and beat a 10-year-old up just for the sake of "good TV." I'm going to give the kid the benefit of the doubt, and hope that if she didn't learn anything about herself during the filming, she will as she watches herself through the eyes of others as these episodes air.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 6:56 am
Whoami you have hit on something that is really starting to bother me as well. We all know that reality shows edit to create villians and heroes. Is this AT ALL ethical to do with this show? These are children for cripes sake and I am really worried that the 15 yr old is being betrayed as the worst type of bully and a manipulator and now Taylor as a prissy better-than-everyone-else beauty queen. IMO that type of editing should be entirely off-limits even if accurate. You don't smear the reputation of a child, ever.
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Cinder
Member
09-01-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 7:14 am
I keep thinking that all of the kids who portray less than desirable behavior will turn it around before the end of the show-and then CBS and make it seem they did it (changed for the better) because of the experiment.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 7:18 am
I know you're right Cinder but in the meantime... how many weeks does that little girl have to face her schoolmates?
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 9:44 am
Whoami and Rissa, you have hit the nail precisely on the head. CBS editing heroes and villains into this particular reality television show is troubling precisely because they are children. Taylor ain't exactly Evel Dick who can raise his middle finger and threaten to perform sexual atrocities on people who don't like him. All Taylor can do is cry.
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Kellsma
Member
08-28-2002
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 2:42 pm
Something that I have thought about and something they are talking about on the CBS boards is the potential for teen romance. You have 14 and 15 year old boys and girls. Wonder if that is going to happen or if they made a strong rule about that. Just wondering.....
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 4:36 pm
I have a feeling Taylor's beauty queen friends are laughing when she makes her snotty comments about not cleaning toilets. I have a feeling they are not suprised by her behavior because they witness it daily.
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Angelicfairies2
Member
07-19-2004
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 5:53 pm
OMG!!!!!!!!!! How can anyone not tear up?? ahhhhhh
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 5:55 pm
These kids are killing me, a kid going to the saloon for a root beer to forget his woman and a town council member in the saloon doing "shots". Sounds like Everytown USA. Actually, very proud of the kids chosing the books.
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Wahmmy
Member
07-24-2005
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 6:01 pm
Also, I realize that this is all editing but some of those kids are really insightful, kudos to their parents. Some of them have me in stitches, they are so funny. Good they are having elections! It is the American way, just when you can't stand the people in power anymore, elections come about. Wonder if any will stay home and not vote, now THAT is the American way!
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Caln8tiv
Member
09-14-2005
| Wednesday, October 10, 2007 - 7:04 pm
Anyone care to provide details about which one of the kids got the gold star this week? I'm hoping it was Morgan. Thanks in advance for the spoiling.
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