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Madelane
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08-20-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
Oh just in case anyone was wondering what the heck I was talking about, here is the quote from Jane that I read.

"I don't have the doll thing going," she says, referring to Osmond's fans. "And some dancers [like Mel B.] can come out here and just walk around. You get higher scores in this competition if you just walk around. Or you go up to the judges and you go pat, pat, on the cheek and you get ‘10s' for that."

Not nice!

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
Someone said that Cameron "acted shocked" when it was announced that Sabrina was leaving. I wonder if, after all of these years on my soap, his acting is finally improving. :-)

I was hoping he would be leaving. I keep hoping he'll leave my soap, too.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
I was kind of thinking the same thing about Jane when I read those comments, Madelane. Not cool. Makes me wonder if the whole food poisoning thing was true, or if maybe she thought she was leaving and just didn't want to face the music...

Interesting. I hadn't pegged her for catty, but...based on some of the things I'm reading, I have to wonder.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
I know, Carmenv, she seems so gentle and sweet, maybe Tony is fanning the flames or something. I thought the above quote was a fluke until she said the obnoxious thing last night about "22 year old dancers." I have to believe she was truly sick last night but I am hoping that Sabrina leaving and her being safe cures her of the name-calling.

Dke1212
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07-13-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dke1212 a private message Print Post    
Slinkydog, you made me chuckle. Not sure Camerons acting has improved though...remember his overacting in the rehearsals they showed on Monday? "I'M RIGHT HERE"

As far as Sabrina being gone? Last night it would have been a win win no matter which of the bottom two left, in my opinion, but I am happy to see her gone.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I knew someone did. Wilson, not Jimmer.

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
It is so interesting to me how differently people view shows. It is obvious with overwhelming report here how much she Sabrina was not liked, it just boggles my mind. Simply because it sincerely has never crossed my mind that she doesn't connect or do well out there. I thought she has been great for body type issues in this world, I think she has been cute and friendly, I think she is a great dancer. I have never been disturbed by any back ground experience any of them had, if the show put them on it is ok with me and lets start the competition. I am shocked that more people don't hear the catty remarks that Jane is making and aren't more bothered by that vs lack of audience connection.

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
Oh, I am absolutely more bothered by Jane's catty remarks. I really liked Jane at first, but that has put me off and I will never vote for her because of it.

However, I have not, and probably would never have voted for Sabrina either. I can't really put a finger on it, but she just did nothing for me. She would dance, I would turn to the hubby and say, wow, that was really good, and then just wouldn't think of it again. I thought she was a fabulous dancer, and thought she was cute and bubbly, but...meh.

Now Helio, on the other hand. Like many, I had NO idea who he was prior to the first show, but he had me hooked IMMEDIATELY. Sabrina just didn't do that for me, anyway.

That said, I still can't believe she left this early...

Slinkydog
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11-30-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Slinkydog a private message Print Post    
I agree about Sabrina, Stacey. I loved that there was a great dancer who was not Twiggy-thin. I also found her cut and bubbly. I was very disappointed that she left last night, as I thought she was the best dancer, even if not my favorite performer.

Dke, you must watch All My Children to know that Cameron's acting is always overacting. Everythink is Always. So. Intense.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Cricket, one small correction to a point you made last page (am just catching up now). You said that Jane didn't even make the bottom 4. We don't know that. They make a big deal of always saying who is safe "in no particular order." We are only told the lowest 2. Any of them, including Jane, might have had the 3rd lowest for example. I know I've often wondered what the full results were out of curiosity of who is well liked etc, because as last night showed it can be hard to tell!

Stacy, ITA with how differently folks view this, and heck MOST shows. It's what has kept this and other boads spinning for years lolol. To me as interesting is how different groups (likely with different demographics) are so vastly different. For exammple, Sabrina was never really a fan fav over here (I'm gonna be generalizing of course), whereas Marie & Jane has been. But this board tends to be, cough cough a bit older. But if you check out that scary offical CBS one, they adored Stacy, are totally stunned, and a lot of those we seem to favor they don't.

One more thing...although not a Sabrina fan, I don't really disagree with any of your description of her. BUT she just never connected with me in terms of drawing me in, looking forward to her performance or finding her entertaining. To me those are all important elements beyond dancing well.

I agree those comments Jane made about Marie (who from all accounts including hers has been a great support and very kind to her) and others were a bit meanspirited, but I think she this is a very emotional time for her, and she was frustrated and just vented (Plus we have no clue what she was asked that she replied that to). In just a few weeks she has worked her body to it's limits, lost her Mom, nearly lost her house to fire, got ripped for doing an illegal lift that she believes was legal etc. Mostly my feelings are anyone who has just buried their Mom is entitled to some slack, cause I know whata hellish emotional roller coaster that is sadly.

Last random comment, I actually agree that Cameron is shocked to be there and may be ready to go or drop. I wish AMC gave him a break but his storyline is front & center and I don't know how he is doing it truthfully. It would be hard enough if he was shooting both locally, but remember he's flying cross country twice each week, shooting 11 hour days in NY and still learning the dances. (Plus they are giving him music from hell IMHO). How ironic, I have AMC on now and his TV brother in law just asked "have you come to see if I've dropped dead yet." Would have been amazing/spot on if he had that line. Ah here he is...hope he is eating his Wheaties. I think he has the hardest schedule of them all truthfully, and I think he knows he likely can't win this and might be ready to go, but just a guess.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Oh, dang! Here I made that long post but didn't say what I came to post about :-). I read the new posts and got caught up replying.

What I had on my mind is that I think next week could define/solidify positions for many of them, and think some need their A games. My take on few I think it will be pivotal for;

Marie; I think this is by far her most important dance. I think pre-faint she was doing great, and beyond being very entertaining/amusing her dancing was legitimately improving. I think the timing for her couldn't have been worse, because by all accounts (hers and those who saw her in rehersal), the pre-faint Rhumba was her best dance, and I would have loved to have seen a rehersal tape cause everyone said how awesome it was, but her live performance was way off.

Anyway, I think she was conservative and understandably reserved/nervous this week. And as amazing as she was in publicly dealing with it, I can't believe fainting in front of 23 million viewers wasn't very upsetting for her. Heck Jenny Garth was hysterically crying from her minor fall a few weeks back. Plus the Paso wasn't likely to be her best style dance to suit her, as we've often discussed with various dancers. I think she needs a really strong, engaging, high energy performance this week.

Helio; He came on soooo strong and was such fun to watch, but the last few dances it seems he was going downhill. I think he is another one who this will be a defining week for.

Jane; As someone who has had food poisoning, and was in bed (and other nearby rooms lol) for nearly a week, I hope she can pull this off. Medicine can only do so much. If this is full blown food poisoning, not a 24 hour bug or sick from bad food (not the same and much shorter recovery time), I don't know how she will pull it off, but I wish her well. Not sure how to handicap her truthfully because I was honestly suprised she wasn't bottom 2.

I could go on, but those were my key points. My gut says it's a HUGE make or break week for many this season. But that said, I not only was shocked by Sabrina (not in a bad way lol) but confused by the voting so who knows if my gut is right here hehe.

BTW, anyone know what the dances are next week??

Stacey718995
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07-06-2007

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Stacey718995 a private message Print Post    
I find the different views interesting as well. It is what keeps me coming back, we all love to debate/share our points.

I feel a bit alone on this but I have people that I am a fan of prior to this show and I hope they do good and I cheer for them to do so. But, I vote on the dancing.

I also each week vote for everyone but 2. I pick my bottom 2 on my least favorite dance of the week. It changes much more this season than it has in the past.

We all do it differently, it just is interesting how we all sit and see the same thing but how differently we all see it!

Carmenv
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04-14-2006

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Carmenv a private message Print Post    
Soap Actor....Over Acting...you don't say!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I feel bad for Sabrina! She has been excellent, whether she has training in other forms of dance or not, she worked hard, performed well, had a great attitude and clearly has a knack for dancing.

I realise from reading this board why people wouldn't vote for her, but I think having her still in the show for a few more weeks would have put pressure on the others and helped make sure everyone kept their A game.

I'm not sure Mel has any real competitors now, talent-wise, but it's possible she's not going to make it to the end because she doesn't seem to have much viewer support.

I'm feeling a little Sanjaya'd - keep in the popular people over the talented.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Since Texannie pointed out this:

People reports that “a source close to the judge says both the rule book presentation and the gesture never happened”

It's entirely possible that they misquoted Jane, too--or made it up.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Oops, double post.

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
Count me in as another who finds it so interesting all the different views that people have. Guess it's what makes the world go round! I liked Sabrina from the first show. She kinda reminds me of my daughter and so maybe that had something to do with it. I thought her dancing was outstanding. Mel B. will be who I root for now. Jane was sounding rather bitter and I'm a little surprised. I thought she had more class than that.

A couple things struck me as results were announced last night. I thought it was so cute when Jane and Tony were announced as safe that Max popped right over to Tony and hugged him:-) Jonathan kinda had a little "whew" when Sabrina was given the boot. I'm sure he was thinking that 1: they were safe and 2: there goes the stiffest competition dance-wise. I also thought the group hug at the very end was different than usual. Usually you see people smiling and talking...not last night though.

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
Oops...I forgot to say how great it was to see Cheryl and Louis and Anna and Jonathan dance! Cheryl and Louis are so damn quick and Anna and Jonathan were just beautiful together. They make a great looking couple! Barry Manilow didn't do too bad either. Okay, I'm done babbleing now:-).

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Sabrina was a good dancer, but I never voted for her. We all watch this show for many reasons. I watch because I like to see people step out of their comfort zone and do something that they have never done, and watch them improve over time. They are the people I root for and want to succeed...that doesn't mean WIN, but improve and find enjoyment in what they're doing. That's why my 2 favorites this year are Helio and Jennie.

Spunky
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10-08-2001

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spunky a private message Print Post    
Oh my! I didn't even know the audience can make or break a couple! So, it was that Jane and Marie got to stay, because of their fans, and Sabrina, who I thought was going to be a finalist, lost! What a surprise! But it made for a suspensful show, that's for sure, and I liked it. Between Cameron and Sabrina I still wanted Cameron to win. Nice to speed up on Barry's singing though!!
Jane was talking about "crushing the competition" just before her dance but I was a bit disappointed as it was a very slow jive and I agreed with the judges. As for Marie, that was a lame paso doble, she showed her age more than Jane did. Still I hope Jane lasts longer than Marie, but they shouldn't stay at the expense of other more talented couples just because they have more fans. Helio and the blonde dancer are cute and in love!!!
I didn't recognize Mel from her spice girls day! She filled up nicely and her dance was the best of the bunch (but 30 was too high). We may end up with a Brit win!!

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 2:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Spunky, are you just being silly when you say Helio and the blonde dancer are in love? If not, I don't see it,lol.
I find myself really rooting for Jennie, she has tons of passion and desire to do this right.
I love me some Max too and Mel is a really great dancer so she didn't even need the extra votes he will bring for them.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 3:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Not that it absolutely makes a difference , but Helio is engaged. The wedding was planned for this December, but has been postponed because of DWTS.

Cricket
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08-05-2002

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cricket a private message Print Post    
Cricket, one small correction to a point you made last page (am just catching up now). You said that Jane didn't even make the bottom 4. We don't know that. They make a big deal of always saying who is safe "in no particular order."

Oh...okay. I just saw 4 couples up there and thought they were the bottom four. I didn't realize it worked like you said. That makes sense.

Jane's quote:
"I don't have the doll thing going," she says, referring to Osmond's fans. "And some dancers [like Mel B.] can come out here and just walk around. You get higher scores in this competition if you just walk around. Or you go up to the judges and you go pat, pat, on the cheek and you get ‘10s' for that."

Wow! Uhh..I do believe Jane walked quite a bit in her previous dances. I think I commented on that. When she had to really move, she just didn't move fast enough for the dance/music. I know that's hard at her age and better she use that as an excuse, rather than critique the other dancers.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Loyolamom, thanks for the reminder about Cheryl and Louis. In all the brouhaha about Sabrina I forgot about how much I loved seeing them dancing together again. I still remember their "Copa Cabana" number from a few seasons ago. Heck, I even have it saved on my computer!

I think I tend to fall somewhere between Stacy and Keldogg in how I vote. I do have favored celebrities that I hope will do well, but if they don't show great improvement over time I'll give up and stop voting for them in favor of someone who does improve. I just don't like to see someone come on and dance like a pro in the first week. That sends up a red flag for me. I start to think that the producers have some ulterior motive for throwing a ringer in the mix. With Keibler I figured they just wanted to have some extra eye-candy around to keep the men tuning in each week. With Sabrina I figured they were doing the Disney promo thing. It may just be a crazy conspiracy thing with me, but that's my thinking. I did give Sabrina some votes in the beginning thinking maybe it was just a fluke that she took to the cha-cha so well, but stopped when she kept dancing like a pro in the weeks that followed. In any event the girl rattled off a laundry list of projects she has coming up, so her career is none the worse for having lost.

I was disappointed to read the comments made by Jane, and could chalk it up to all the stress she's been under. I just wish she'd have thought twice before talking to the press at all. Dovolani isn't helping by insisting their performance was great when it wasn't or that there was no lift when there was. As her coach he needs to be honest about how she's performing.

I found it interesting that I read in two places yesterday that Jane and Tony already knew they're dancing to a Johnny Cash song next week. Usually the teams don't get their new music until after the results show, but they knew this in advance. Jane apparently was friends with Johnny and June Carter Cash, so this dance means a lot to her. I wonder if that means they were able to pick this song. Reports say Jane is already back in rehearsals, so I'm sure the illness won't be much of a factor.

It was Tony that looked shocked to be staying, not so much Cameron. Cameron looked about as stunned as anyone else that Sabrina was going, but I don't think he wanted to lose. When he was waiting for the final announcement his face looked sad, like he assumed he was going.

For me there has yet to be a breakout dancer in this group as there has always been in the past. There's no Apollo going from rounded shoulders and pigeon-toes to moving like a pro. Maks needs to put more interesting moves in Mel's dances to justify all the hype. There's never anything memorable there. Helio's cute, but a smile and a flashy partner will only go so far.

I also wish these dancers would stop hooking up with their celebrities. It kind of makes it look like they're just coming on the show to troll for celebrity dates. That's just a minor pet peeve for me.