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Sportygirl
Member
06-14-2005
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 10:22 am
The other thing I take into consideration is the age of the dancer. I totally expected Sabrina, Cameron, Jennie, Mel and Helio to have more stamina, have the flexibility to kick higher/twist their hips more than Marie and Jane who are 25-35 years older than them. Their dances aren't as complicated because their bodies can't do as much stuff or bend as far as it used to but I am not going to hold that against them as long as they continue to improve and entertain.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 10:59 am
Kitt, nope, I don't. Jennie's dances are not that powerful or intricate. And while she can occasionally strike a lovely pose, more often than not she looks awkward, her feet look awkward, and he legs are bent. Sport, Jane did the splits. I'd say she's plent flexible.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:41 am
Well, if you are going to take flexibility into account...consider an NFL football player who has been hit numerous times by guys who outweight him 2-1...and he managed to be pretty darned flexible!
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:21 pm
Regardless of the order of being booted, the final 2 should be Mel B and Helio. There has ALWAYS been someone on ET giving their opinion of the dancers...so, this is NOT new. I'm on team marie. no, i don't think she is going to win, but, speaking for for mature women, she is doing a wonderful job. she has been gracious and kind and doing the best she can under incredible circumstances. It is not her fault that more people called in to vote for her than Cameron. Until the rules of this show change, why in the world do people season after season complain.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:25 pm
As a result of a heart condition, WAYNE NEWTON has had to cancel both a two-month engagement at Harrah's in Las Vegas and the upcoming "Dancing with the Stars" tour, it was reported today by People magazine.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:43 pm
Er, how old is Marie anyways? Cause I think I'm older than she is, so I don't consider her "maturity" an issue with regards flexibility. And, I've not said this till now, but is it really fair to have someone on the show who has about a 1000 family members? I mean, she's got enuf family voting for her, I doubt she needs any fans. Just sayin'... 
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:49 pm
I think I read that she was 48. I never realized how close she was to my age.
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:56 pm
yes, she is Jane is 56 btw, Cameron is 38, Jennie is 35, Mel and Helio are 32 and Sabrina is 23 (i have an age fetish)
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Sharinia
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 5:58 pm
poor Wayne 
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:54 pm
FWIW, While Marie is my fave, I am a realist. I agree that at this point in the show the most proficient dancers are Helio and Mel and they deserve the win. I'd like to see Marie at least make it to 3rd place. Ultimately it's equal parts technique and entertainment value. The judges remind them of that time and time again and if they can factor that in, well, it validates how I judge them too. Which is why I'm stumped as to why Jennie is still there, she's amateurishly nervous and stilted, at least Cameron was entertaining, and to my untrained eye, improved to the point where he could dazzle on the dancefloor!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:56 pm
That is also my position, Mame Although I will not feel bad if by some strange turn of fate Marie makes it further 
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:59 pm
From your mouth to God's ears, Naja!!! Helio and Mel are the correct frontrunners. But Marie would be the FeelGood win for many of us. (I just know that is going to tee-off some folks - sorry!) If she goes before Jennie... ack!
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 8:05 pm
You know, if you think about it, Emmett wasn't the best dancer in his season, but he was the feelgood winner. Anything can happen!
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 8:10 pm
Just looking at this thread, I can't help but believe Marie will at least make third and be in the finale show. I really like Jennie, and have been a big fan of her's from 90210, but I think she is next to go, not Marie.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 8:59 pm
Cricket - ITA!!! 
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 7:50 am
If it was fair then there wouldn't be people on like those models who don't have a fan base at all! I like Marie and I wouldn't mind if she makes it to final 3. Shoot, I don't care if she wins...it's not like she's going to come to my house and give me money for voting for her or NOT voting for her. It's an entertainment show for me and although I don't think she is the best dancer I'm not going to think the world is going to end if she wins...or if she doesn't. I appreciate how well and gracefully she has accepted the circumstances that surround her and the criticism she has received from the judges. I think that's why this year has been so enjoyable...for the most part this group has been very gracious and supportive of one another (okay, except for Floyd). They seem to truly enjoy one another's company and it makes for pleasant viewing for the audience too.
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Allietex
Member
08-16-2002
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:12 am
I think entertainment has a lot to do with the ones who win. With Emmit for example, even though he might not have been as technically proficient, he was still close enough that along with his entertainment value, he was a good win. but if the time comes where someone who is not even close to the better dancer wins because of a fan base, for example Wayne Newton, then the show will lose something. Wayne winning would have been a joke. and I have been a Wayne Newton fan since I was a kid.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 12:40 pm
Okay, but I have to say I was a lot happier with Wayne Newton than I was with Jerry Springer...LOL!
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Biscottiii
Member
05-29-2004
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 7:56 pm
I haven't been watching DWS or keeping up with the thread, frankly. Don't know if anyone may have mentioned this before, but saw in today's paper (and I certainly plan to see myself!): http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/1401ap_people_michael_flatley.html Michael Flatley to perform on 'Dancing' THE ASSOCIATED PRESS photo Irish American dancer Michael Flatley, known for his works River Dance and Lord of the Dance, performs at Madison Square Garden in New York, in this Sept. 27, 2005, file photo. Michael Flatley took the world by storm as "Lord of the Dance" - and now he'll take the stage on ABC's "Dancing With the Stars." The champion Irish step dancer-choreographer will perform with members of his dance team on Tuesday's performance show, Scott Gorenstein, a representative for Flatley, said Thursday, Nov. 15, 2007. (AP Photo/Henny Ray Abrams, file) NEW YORK -- Michael Flatley will take the stage on ABC's "Dancing With the Stars" next week. Flatley, 49, is the former star of the Irish dance spectacle "Riverdance." He has gone on to create his own shows, "Lord of the Dance," "Feet of Flames" and "Celtic Tiger." The champion Irish step dancer-choreographer will perform with members of his dance team on Tuesday's show, Scott Gorenstein, a representative for Flatley, said Thursday.
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Stacey718995
Member
07-06-2007
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 8:07 pm
I am pretty sure they announced it on the show last week, I know I will be watching!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 8:23 pm
Yes, they did and I can't wait!
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 9:04 pm
Thanks for the article Bisc! I also heard about it announced, and am very excited and can't wait either.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 9:10 am
Did you know that although Flatley was the Irish champ, he is an American born in '58 in Detroit?
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 10:37 am
Nope, didn't know that at all! Thx for the info, OG. 
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 12:44 pm
I hope we don't have to ask the mods for seperate threads for each dance team. Some people like different couples. <100> I don't remember who went out 5th, 4th or 3rd in previous competions...because really, who cares. Usually, the best dancer wins. Ive stated before, until the show changes the rules and does not weigh the home vote so heavy we have to live w/ the results. I don't vote <100> This is just an entertainment show. Should Sabrina still be there...absolutely. Should another dancer or dancers have been voted out....probably. This happens at Idol every season, and they have to deal with the vote for the worst people.
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