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Karen
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09-07-2004

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Roxip
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01-29-2004

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Real pirates would have also cut John's throat for stealing the compasses too. Oh well, I guess that's why it's not real...LOL!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

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JD would have been keelhauled or made to walk the plank without his fortune in real life, but naturally this isn't real life. I don't find him appealing at all.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

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Oh and at least Ben, the male officer, has better instincts than JD. He was the one who suggested choosing people to black mark who had been weak in a challenge. JD went after strong players in John and Louie just because he didn't like them.

Wilsonatmd
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01-23-2001

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Well the ratings haven't been good...CBS is moving the show once BB starts. (July 5th the show will air after BB at 9PM, then starting July 10th, the show will air 10PM Tuesdays.)

and as to why they've been not voting to mutiny...according to an interview with John, the rule is, if a mutiny is agreed on unanimously by the crew, but both officers don't agree, the captain then gets to pick who is eliminated...and he can pick ANYONE, whether they were marked originally or not, and even an officer if need be (if one said yes to the mutiny and one said no for example). If it's only a partial vote for mutiny, the player who had the most votes is out (even if it was the only non-mutiny vote).

Denecee
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09-05-2002

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but Seamonkey, in real life(haha), the captain of the pirate ship would not have all his treasures on the ship, so if they made him walk the plank then they would lose the treasures the captain was hiding off ship. (I know this from my pirate days many lives ago)

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

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I don't think the officers have to agree to the mutiny. Number 1, that wouldn't make sense as they are the Captain's Officers. Number 2, the host said it has to be a unanimous vote, and the officers DO NOT VOTE. The crew alone votes, not the Officers or the Captain. The officers don't even get to SAY anything at the voting ceremony. No, it's the crew alone who votes and the crew has to unanimously agree to a mutiny. I guess I can see how it would be hard to have a unanimous vote (Survivor FINALLY had its first one) but NOT A SINGLE VOTE! I'm still in shock.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

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Spoiler
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If Wilson't info about the mutiny is true, there will never be a mutiny.


<added spoiler box ~77>

Sallycat22
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08-31-2005

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Who believes all those coins came out of that size jug???
Who else thought of Tom Sawyer when Christian floated away on a piece of wood?
Even though I knew a high speed boat was waiting to pick him up...it was creepy. I guess that was the aim.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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Interview with Christian Okoye

Karen
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09-07-2004

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Darclyte, from the official website:

"Mutiny occurs at the conclusion of Pirates’ Court if there is a unanimous ballot for it and the 2 Officers support it. A successful Mutiny results in forcing the Captain being cut adrift."

The officers don't have to vote mutiny, per se, they just have to agree with the crew's mutiny call.

Sugar
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08-15-2000

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Why the holy heck are these people frettin' and fumin' about not getting a share of the booty when they loose, what did they think would happen?!?! Or that the Pirate captain keeps most of it!!
Take the $200.00 and quit your bitchin' or be stupid and say Nay, keep your nasty old gold. The captain is in charge, people in charge almost always make more $. Doesn't matter if they actually do any work.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 10:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
wow i hope I can help.

During the questions the Captain Let it slip (deliberately) that he did not keep all the money for himself....he gave some to the Boswain!!

Immediately all those who were going to do the Mutiny dare not. The Boswain is 'in' with the capt so you know it is Not going to be unanimous.



LOL the look on Jay's face was priceless but he thought fast and said that he was given 1000$.

If I recall correctly, Capt gave Jay $2000!! the blurbs for next week show Jay spreading out his 'One thousand' with a few choice comrades LOL

So he keeps 1000 quiet just incase he needs it in the future.

I dislike the 'scripting' done in this show. Like the way some of the crew shot challenging looks at the Capt as they plunged their ballot onto the danger.

Too corny and obviously done to mislead the audience.

I'm very sorry to see Christian go. Notice the trend though? Whenever a Nominee dares to call for a mutiny, Out they go.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

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oh by the way, the True history of Blackbeard was on History the other day.

Pirates shared the booty equally. I dont recall if the capt ate better than anyone else but the crew of the pirate ships usually mutiny'd due the fact the "Officers" were treated so special and the crew had nothing.

Often the crew of the ships were rounded up off the streets and forced into labouring on the ships. Only a few were actually Paid and volunteered for the jobs.

Even the Whaling ships which travelled around the hawaiian island were crewed with Unwilling kidnapped men who jumped ship at the first chance.

Evidently Lahaina had a problem with Thousands of Men who jumped ship and were living on the beaches during those 1800s.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

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I just don't believe that JD has let his captaincy go to his head like he is playing it. I don't know whether this is his idea of strategy or whether he is being "scripted," but none of this rings true for me!! Could be wrong, of course, but just sounds a tinge "off" to me -

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

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I'm enjoying the show. I do think that it has more than a little scripting, though I guess that is probably harmless to the extent that they have to put some sort of coherent show together. That is providing it doesn't affect the outcome too much.

Still, too much scripting takes away from the show and makes it less real.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

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It seems very stressful though. here I go with another comparison to Big Brother LOL

From what I've understood from Survivor contestants, when things get stressful or you need quiet time, you can just wander off to be by yourself and gather your thoughts.

That Ship is very much like the BB house. NO escape! I bet the only private place is the "head" LOL (toilet)

I can imagine in weeks ahead we will get much more into the Characters of the various contestants. Azmyth for instance did an incredible job at finding the chest in the snake pit AND the loot.

Did the capt reward him for it? Nope.

I dont think that JD is using his military or Fireman knowledge as part of the Captainship. He just isnt playing it nice.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

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Sunshyne, we are on the same page! I am liking the show so far, but if they change the time to 10pm, I'm not sure I can stay awake.

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

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I almost always record shows so that if I fall asleep I can catch up the next day!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

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I bet the ratings get even worse cuz the ppl that would have watched live at 8 will now tape and watch on fri!!

I love BB but it really should be on later, it isnt an 8 pm show

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

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Karen, thanks for the part from the website about the mutiny routine. I'm surprised that the Officers have to agree. Why on Earth would they? They're going to give up "the good life" they're living to end up being part of the "crew?" Highly unlikely.
That makes no sense to me. The "crew" outnumbers the Officers, and should be able to mutiny without them. If the Officers HAVE to agree, it looks like JD may be Captain until his team loses a challenge. Kinda dumb.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

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eventually the Capt's team has to lose a comp. Then the three 'officers' could all be up for "black spot".

IF the crew has voted solidly for a Mutiny and the two officers dont go along with it, they may end up paying for it when the team loses and they end up on the block.

It would only be a matter of time before all three would be picked off, so I can imagine the two Officers will turn on the Capt without any chagrine.

why go down with a sinking ship?

((hope I made sense, I'm really tired LOL)

Trini
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07-06-2004

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quote:I bet the ratings get even worse cuz the ppl that would have watched live at 8 will now tape and watch on fri!!

LOL!tha's what I do..this show doesn't even make me smile, I drag through it all because I want to see what's next. The fact that Louie keeps talking mutiny then does nothing is not causing suspense.
How can I forget this..Joy hurt her knee so badly, so I thought; she couldn't help, couldn't do anything to save her life until she was marked; took the wrapping off her knee and claimed she is good as gold and her knee is not hurting any more

Stormie
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03-01-2007

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Gonzilly Tuesday, June 05, 2007
Stormie, you can watch the episode over again on the cbs.com website. They add extended footage there as well.


Thanks very much Gonzilly, I'm just catching up on my reading today. The cbs site also has some great information about the game and the pirate theory they are using. Thanks again.flower face

Stormie
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03-01-2007

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Going back to the first week, I liked John bc he stepped up for the team and found the treasure. I guess there were more things that we didn't see, edited for time perhaps, that made the others think he was arrogant. Perhaps it was an act like some have mentioned, but they are supposed to be pirates, lol, maybe that was his idea of what one was. I liked him though and thought they should have chosen him over JD, who didn't seem like captain material to me, but oh well.

This past week I was very surprised they let Christian go. He actually would have come in handy to carry heavy things and to help in strength challenges. Right now they are working as teams, so I thought he would have been the better choice to keep on the ship. It also surprised me they didn't mutiny. I guess I'm not yet sure, even reading about it, if the two officers can vote or not, but initially I didn't think they did. In any event, it would have made more sense to not have them vote, as they would never vote to mutiny, since they get part of the bounty. If the crew only can mutiny, then I'm surprised they chose to keep JD in charge for another week. I'm hoping that this week whatever team JD ends up on looses, so another captain can be named, and give someone else the chance. If they don't then all they are doing is working to let JD win money, which makes no sense to me.

Still like this show though, and I also liked not knowing the rules initially and finding out with the crew. It's different and I do hope they get more difficult challenges and twists in the weeks ahead.