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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 9:18 am
At Karuuna's suggestion have started this thread here. Right now we have the Phil Spector trial going on and have seen shenanigans the likes of which make OJ pale. the esteemed Pathologist Dr. Henry Lee, stealing evidence and hiding it, resulting in his not being able to testify. Dr. Michael Baden another eminent M.E. and husband of defense lawyer who had an epiphany that the victim lived for a few minutes and failed to give this information to the prosecution resulting in the Judge having to make a very important ruling today. So far we have Phil Spector whose hair changes every day, numerous women who have tesified that he pointed guns at them and threatened them. Today is an important day for the case.
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:13 am
Thanks to Maris for bringing this trial to this arena. IF Phil Spector is acquitted, it's time to take a serious look at the justice system in California. A man with a decades-long history of getting drunk and threatening women with guns does not belong in society. If you've been following this case, then you've seen the power of the almighty dollar and the bizarre professional opinions it can buy. The trial is a travesty. Let's just hope the jury sees through their muck.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:19 am
On the plus side, this trial also demonstrates what a competent judge brings to the table as well as a decent prosecutor. This judge controls his courtoom and seems to really represent the scales of justice.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 11:22 am
Let me know if you'd like to have different folders for different trials? As for Phil Spector, it's obvious to me he's guilty. That poor woman! I hate how they have drug her thru the mud to make her look like a nutcase to get him off. I do wonder what the jury will do with all the conflicting evidence - the so-called "friends" that implied that Lana was miserable and unstable; and the 'experts' that claim Phil Spector couldn't have been that close to her. I am thrilled that the judge allowed all the testimony from the other women that Spector threatened. Hopefully it will be enough.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:02 pm
I dont doubt for a second he will be found guilty. The Judge came down hard on them for Henry Lee hiding and disposing of evidence, so Henry couldnt testify. Then he came down hard on them again for Dr. Baden's aha moment. I think enough people have tesified that Lana was not depressed. Her mothers testimony was very credible because she had all the receipts from that day's shopping excursion. I mean would you try to commit suicide after buying 7 pairs of shoes????
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Heyltslori
Moderator
09-15-2001
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:07 pm
Maybe after seeing the receipt! 
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:10 pm
Maris, I knew about the Henry Lee debacle, but did any of that make it to the jury? I can only watch occasionally, so I know I've missed some. I also didn't see her mom's testimony. But they sure have kept showing Pumpkin Pie's testimony over and over.
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Pixieduster
Member
09-27-2004
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:33 pm
I love Judge Fidler and the Prosecutor Alan Jackson - they are magnificent human beings and great examples for all in the justice system.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, August 23, 2007 - 12:35 pm
LOL, her mother paid for the shoes, so she would have been the one to shoot herself. No the jury doesnt know about the hidden fingernail but and it is a big BUT, Henry Lee oculd not tesify of course because the judge ruled that he could be asked about concealing/destroyi8ng evidence. Losing Henry Lee as an expert witness is huge. Now the AHA moment, the Jury surely knew something was up with that because the prosecution jumped up right away, they went to sidebar and Baden was not allowed to testify on the matter for another few days while the prosecution could get an opportunity to review the disclosure and obtain their own rebuttal witness who was on the stand yesterday. Cutler has disappeared almost completely from the trial probably because he pissed the judge off so much and also the jury didnt like him. Badens wife is back this week as his attorney but the white haired guy is not going over well at all. The english woman yesterday was an excellent witness as well so I think it is going to be very hard for him to bet this rap. I listen to the trial every day and catch snippets of viewing it on courttv.com.
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 10:50 am
No trial today, Friday. But next week should be full of sparks and spats and then closing arguments. I heard an interview on Court TV with one of his sons. He's convinced that his dad knows he's going down and is trying to spend all his money now so he won't have to pay Lana Clarkson's family after the civil case. He's one of the strangest men, I almost feel sorry for him. Again, thanks to Maris for starting this folder. Maris and I have been friends since the OJ trial, so this is very nostalgic.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:16 pm
I know no trial so I spent my time watching the Diapered astronaut hearings on court tv. Does the son believe he is guilty?
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 9:31 pm
Does Spector's son think he's guilty? Yep. He said that he heard women (and men) screaming for years to get out, while he and his brother were locked in their rooms. It was just a matter of time until the gun went off and someone got hurt. It was almost like he was relieved that it finally happened and his father will be put away. I think it's too late to bring in Spector's obvious mental ummmmmm... issues? So, if he's convicted, it will be prison. Hard to imagine him living one day behind bars, he's such a control freak. Should be interesting though.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:38 am
My mom watches the Phil Spector trial every day. What a scary man he is.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Monday, August 27, 2007 - 1:23 pm
Bruce Kutler quit today as Phil's lawyer because Phil didnt want him doing the summation. The last witness has testified so on to summations. I was looking forward to Bruce.
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 2:07 pm
Yes, Maris, I was looking forward to Bruce's explosive closing -- but keep in mind that this is an earthquake state and we have to keep the yelling and screaming and honking to a minimum. But it was entertaining to watch him kiss Phil on the cheek then run out of there like the Dogs of Hades were on his heels. He picked up a nice tan while filming his reality show. Closing arguments are like my Superbowl. I have to lay in snacks, lotsa popcorn (unbuttered, so I can throw it at TV screen) and unsalted peanuts so I don't have to jump up and down to go pee. Hope they can keep it to 2 days but I wouldn't bet on it. And I still think River Deep Mountain High is one of the greatest songs of all time.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:07 am
I dont get it, how long can it take 12 people to write the word guilty on a piece of paper. Of course with two jurors with DUI records....maybe they are just boozing it up.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 1:58 pm
ITA Maris, and MTE!
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 5:04 pm
Did anyone catch the judge yelling at spectors wife, it was probably one of the most entertaining moments of the trial. Karmaholic and I have been planning on the casting for the movie. Phil Spector - Martin Short Prosecutor - Tobey McGuire Judge - Bruce Willis Bruce Cutler - Robert DiNiro Linda Baden - Terri Garr who will play Punkin pi
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 7:41 am
Punkin Pie should be played be Jennifer Whats-her-name... The salon gal in Legally Blonde, and Stifler's mom from the American Pie movies. She also played Jim's sister on According to Jim, and many other things.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 1:44 pm
Jury sent a note to judge that they are hung. Waiting for more info.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 3:16 pm
Who's to play Adriano?
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:21 pm
Adriano? Hmmmmm How about Mario Lopez. Can't get enough of his dimples.
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Karmaholic
Member
08-19-2007
| Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 4:29 pm
Karuuna, I could live with an involuntary manslaughter conviction as long as he does some time in prison. But given that Nicole Ritchie only did 36 minutes or something ridiculous like that, I wouldn't be surprised if he does minimal time and then house arrest for awhile. But I don't think that local pizza joints and Chinese restaurants will agree to deliver to him anymore. It's hardly justice, but it WILL be annoying when Rachelle doesn't feel like cooking.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 3:21 am
and then there is OJ! -- the trial revisited. I wonder if this guy in the hospital in critical conditions dies, will they charge OJ with murder? I gotta think the Vegas court system might have a different outcome for the Juice.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 10:36 am
Great arguments going on right now in the Spector trial.
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