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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 8:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
It was one of my new favorites who got voted off - Christian. This is show night, so no need for a spoiler.

Christian was the Jamaican, exNFL running back. I liked him, darn it!

Should have been Kendra, she made the red team lose the challenge.

And... if the team that is NOT the captains' team wins a challenge, they get to choose a new captain. So the captain could change up without a mutiny.

Joe Don was dead weight too. And arrogant.

I was confused, do the officers vote? Could be really hard to get a mutiny then.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Never mind, answered my own question. Only 9 voted tonight, which means 6 didn't vote: 3 nominated pirates and captain and 2 officers.

So... new speculation. Maybe no one is voting for the Captain because if they don't ALL vote for him, their vote would have been wasted?

Doublethink
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08-23-2006

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Doublethink a private message Print Post    
I don't think the officers get to vote. I thought they said there were only nine votes tonight. So that would make six non-voters. The three up for elimination and the captain and his two officers.

Sanfranjoshfan
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09-17-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sanfranjoshfan a private message Print Post    
I wonder why a couple or three of them didn't vote for a mutiny even if they knew it would fail because it woudn't be unaminous....it still would've sent a message to the captain that the crew is getting ready to turn against him.

A few mutiny votes might've loosened up the captain's purse strings and/or the pantry!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I am liking it okay, but I still see very heavy scripting. Like the producers tell them, particularly the officers, to do a certain thing, and then they do it, and it gets filmed for "the storyline."

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 10:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
They'd be smart to work out a deal among themselves. Whatever crew members end up on the captain's team for the challenge should work to throw it to the other team in exchange for a share in the winnings. It should be worth it to get a little less money in order to oust a captain who's taking the lion's share anyway. They were fools not to keep Christian and make him the new captain. How lame that they listened to the guy who went around with the brilliant argument that it would be too hard to carry Christian if he got hurt. Never occurred to him that Christian was more likely to be the one doing the carrying.

I could've sworn that in the first episode the host said the two officers had to join in the mutiny. Ah, I found it at their website: "Mutiny occurs at the conclusion of Pirates’ Court if there is a unanimous ballot for it and the 2 Officers support it. A successful Mutiny results in forcing the Captain being cut adrift." I wonder what happens if the mutiny isn't supported by the officers. Does the captain choose who goes?

All in all, it's a fairly decent summer show but I can't see it coming back another year. It's just capitalizing on the current pirate craze right now. I wish they'd eliminate those obstacles that put one team way ahead of the other and make the outcome of the challenges predictable. And for the second time in a row it seemed like one man was responsible for the win and that man wasn't given any real appreciation for it.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
41 the chippendale brothers

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As for tonight, what is WRONG with these people? That's all I can say. Sheesh! I guess as a study of human interaction it is telling that people are afraid to vote for mutiny. I agree completely, SanFran.. why on earth did NO ONE vote for mutiny. Now, I'm guessing Louie voted for Kendra in hopes of keeping Christian there, maybe..

At least this time the one who found the treasure wasn't cut adrift.

I couldn't believe he gave that one group $200 each. Just goes to show how money corrupts people.

I fear Louie will be digging that hole, talking too much and be ousted soon enough. Hope not. He and Azmyth are favorites for me.

I want them to mutiny, to mix things up, but also to get rid of that captain. The only reason I can see why someone who is voting (not his two officers) is that they (Ray) figure they can continue to get money from his cache and if he's gone they won't be chosen for that privilege. Ray could be in some trouble since he clearly hadn't shared with the others that he'd gotten money from the captain.

Of course hopefully, with luck, JD will be on a winning team soon and he'll be out anyway.

Kar, I thought Christian was bringing up the rear as they went up the incline, but I guess Kendra kept them from leaving the water's edge? (don't really know but it seems that must be a rule of the game), so Kendra should have gone. And I liked Christian, too.

Curly, right.. the team with the captain should work to throw the comp, BUT if even one of his officers is on that team, that might be hard to accomplish. But clearly this guy isn't coming up with much incentive to keep him, IMO.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 11:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Joy also held up the red team with her fall and hurting her knee. I'm surprised she didn't get any votes, although maybe they think she's weak and beat her out later. I'm tired of the way Joe Don is acting. Blech.

Darclyte
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07-11-2005

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 3:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Darclyte a private message Print Post    
Christian is Nigerian, not Jamaican. His nickname was the Nigerian Nightmare. I think they messed up by not going for the mutiny. The Captain has over $40,000, and some of them have all of $200. When he gave them $200, I agreed with the woman who said it was more insulting than anything. JD should have tried to keep everyone happier by spreading the wealth a little more, as well as the food. But, he's still there, so who can say. I just can't see him staying Captain much longer. Maybe they think he'll lose the next treasure hunt and no longer be Captain, but whatever, I would have dumped JD.

Mictay
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09-29-2006

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mictay a private message Print Post    
I'm a little confused as to why they all didn't get the captain out.He has let being captain go to his head IMO!But I guess they all have they're reasons.The snake pit was completely freaking me out.You could not pay me enough money to go in there.I was sad to see Christian go he was one of the reasons I wanted to watch this show,but oh well not really sure who i'm rooting for yet.

Mack
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07-23-2002

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 6:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mack a private message Print Post    
First of all, I hate snakes! No way, no how, under no circumstances would I have even stood around that pond much less gone in it. OK...with that over let me say I'm having a little trouble with this show. We really, really want to like it but it's got to get a lot more interesting or we'll probably drift away. The challenges, snakes notwithstanding, seem a little thin. While a little better than the first show the play between the "shipmates" is a bit hard to follow and not enough is shown to get a good sensing of what might be going on. The "black spot" meetings seem stiff and almost scripted/staged. We're hanging in there but the interest meter is certainly not pegged on "got to watch".

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I so totally wanted Christian to stay. I think they may regret losing his strength over Kendra. Who really should've gone home. Useless, that one.

I wish to all heck they'd just frickin' mutiny and get it over with. All the threats of doing so, and not a single mutiny vote yet again.

Am seriously not liking how JD is playing. He's really let his power get to his head. Gimme a break... $200 to the crew? Seriously, an insult!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I didn't know that the officers had to agree with the mutiny...that explains why the others wouldn't got for it. If they showed their hand and voted for the mutiny and the officers didn't go along then they would be marked for the next time. The only sure way to get rid of the captain is for him to be on a losing team...and since the teams are weighted towards the captain that could be difficult.

The officers have nothing to gain by the captain losing power...they are getting 1/4 of the winnings, a secure place to sleep and good food. They know if the other team gets in power they will be back among the crew.

I personally would have voted for Joy. This is the second time in a row she has been a weak link...last week with her seasickness and this week with her knee.

Csnog
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07-18-2002

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 7:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Csnog a private message Print Post    
I like the idea of picking new teams each time. This is what I wanted them to do on Survivor.

Wonder if they will ever pick a female to be the Captain?

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 7:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Just be patient - at some time JD's team will lost, and he will be ousted as Captain. I would have surely voted for Kendra last night. Anyone who admits to being "a bit of a whiner" is likely a BIG one!

Scoutmom
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01-19-2006

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 7:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scoutmom a private message Print Post    
If you were an officer and the crew voted for mutiny, seems you would think twice before not going with them. After all, in the next "treasure hunt" your team might lost and you would be at a great disadvantage if the new captain gave you a black spot letter.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 8:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Actually, the teams are not necessarily weighted on the captain's side. He got one extra person this time, and his two officers (who likely have a vested interest in winning). But the teams? The drawing was random.

I think I'd vote for mutiny anyways, and then deny I did. There's no way to know who voted for whom or what.

And if everyone voted for mutiny, and the officers didn't agree, hmm... guess it would be pretty easy to sabotage the black team if you were on it, yes?

Scoutmom
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01-19-2006

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 8:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scoutmom a private message Print Post    
Costacat - you think like a true Pirate!!!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
So sad to see Christian go, I really liked him. I thought they should have mutinied but I didnt realize the 2 <el> have to agree, so they prolly figured they wouldnt. Kendra should have left.

Joy's ankle is better so I think that is why she didnt get a vote

I cant believe how fast being captain went to JD's head!!! unbelievable! and has he never seen a reality show??? DUH! his days are so numbered

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yo ho ho... I wonder if I can make bellinis with a bottle of rum? :-)

It was Joy's knee. And I kinda wonder how it got "better" so quickly.

JD just seriously rubs me the wrong way. I don't like arrogance, and he's getting way too big for his captain's britches!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I was considering the fact that the captain and his officers get better food...makes them stronger.

JD sure seemed to be standing around a lot during the challenge though, and doesn't appear to be much of a leader or a problem solver.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 9:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
But he's pretty quick to constantly pat himself on the back. You know, being in the Navy and all.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I like the show, but don't like the way the whole thing is weighted to the captain. If the crew votes unanimously for mutiny, that should be enough.

Real pirates would mutiny when they had enough numbers to overpower the captain and officers. No way they'd put it off for unanimity.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Main reason they didn't mutiny, imo, is they can't get their pirate hands on that 40G's if they send the captain adrift. That's why pirate's always buried their treasures so that he could use that as leverage to not get mutinied(sp).
Anyway, I love the show. JD is cute but he is so full of himself it's a big turnoff.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, June 08, 2007 - 10:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I don't think the captain should get to keep his loot if there is a mutiny....

Real pirates would relieve the captain of his booty before cutting him adrift....ARRRGGGHHH (insert pirate smiley here, if TVCH ever gets one)