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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 5:56 am
I don't see a thread on Dog Chapman so here goes. When I heard about his show being pulled I had no idea what the what "word" was that he hadc used, but to my dismay it was the worsr for me that it could be in my opinion. I am very disappointed in him.It is interesting that he has a wife who dresses most of the time < he likes her that way > inappropriately yet his adult son cannot date the woman of his choice. What is up with that ? Dog should be very ashamed of himself.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 6:29 am
yeah, we were discussing this last week in news and views. he attempted to contact Rev Al to help him out of this mess, Rev Al's response is also posted over there ...
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 7:25 am
I saw him last night on Larry King. He was very contrite and I bought it. He's going more than the extra mile to get to the deep-seated reasons he used the language he did. I've never laid eyes on the man before, so I had no preconcieved ideas of the sort of man he was. I now think he should be forgiven as I am convienced he will change for the better.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:00 am
OG, I saw it and I bought it too. I was appalled the N-word sprinkled liberally thoughout the tapes. King played hardball. Dog was extremely humble and not defensive at all, which I found admirable. He never dodged any of the questions, just answered honestly and with deep sorrow and humility. Either that, or he's a better actor than the pros, which I do not believe. I think he's the real deal, at least I hope so. He's got a huge chip on his shoulder about his 'hard knock beginnings and doing jailtime, but he admits that is no excuse and is trying to avoid swearing now altogether. It also impressed me that his pastor is African American and has forgiven him, as did the majority of callers and the folks polled. I think it's heartening that the public knows the difference between ignorance and a heartfelt willingness to make things right versus deep-seated racism (which usually goes hand in hand with antisemitism). I'm betting that he will get his show back at A&E or at least it will be picked up somewhere. He says he's all about second chances, I'm a big fan and I hope he doesn't let us down again.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:10 am
Ditto everything Mame just posted! I feel he is very sincere and my respect for him is renewed.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:16 am
What gets me is that it was a PRIVATE conversation, he didn't blurt it out over the airwaves to offend the masses, he didn't use it in a comedy club, he didn't say it on his show. Yes, that word sucks, yes it was wrong, but he is the king of second chances, and he really goes the extra mile to help people out, and most of the time those people are the lowest of low lives, and he shows them respect, tries to help them out. I think his show being pulled is ridiculous. Isn't it illegal to record someone without their knowledge?
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Txkaykay
Member
07-27-2006
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:47 am
Escapee - No, not illegal
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 9:56 am
It's illegal in California. ETA: but wasn't this a message Dog left on his son's answering maching?
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 10:26 am
from what I heard it was a cell phone conversation. I didn't know you could record a cell phone conversation until I found one on my cell phone that had been recorded. I have to tell about it, I'll keep it short. This was a few months after my mom died, but when she was alive, she would use my cell phone to call my uncle on the weekends. Anyways, after she died is when I found this recorded phone call, but the wierd thing is her voice was not recorded only my uncle's side of the conversation.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 10:40 am
Denecee my cellphone records in the video section. But not sure if it records without the video.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:42 am
Mameblanche, it was my old cell phone and I had no idea it could do that. My new phone can vidieo record and I enjoy it with the grankids.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 11:55 am
Now you've got me wondering if my old cellphone could do that too, and I didnt know it. LOL.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 9:32 am
I love Dog and was very disappointed to hear about this. I think it was purely ignorance, but still inexusable (not the same thing as unforgivable). It's so sad to think that his own son recorded him and turned him in for money. I saw him on one of the talk shows saying he thought it was okay to use the N-word, cause he'd always thought of himself as black. Huh??? I know he's part Native American, but that's just pure ignorance. I would love to be a fly on the wall in their house. I'll bet Beth kicked his butt good! I hope he recovers from this, cause I do think he does a lot of good and reaches out to people who would otherwise be forgotten. He talks to people who most would consider "low lifes" with respect and concern. He preaches at them all the way to jail to turn their lives around and he'll be there to help him. I do think he's a good guy, he just needs to watch his mouth. For a man who professes himself as a Christian (they pray every time they go out on a bounty hunt), he's not setting a very good example with his language (more than just the N-word).
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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 12:12 pm
I think he needs to work on reestablishing his family right now. His son turns over the tape. His son's girlfriend is going to sue. It's all too sad.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 3:19 pm
I was bothered at how easily the words flowed out. He wasnt screaming furious. He was simply trying to convince his son not to go out with a black woman. I find the fact that it was a private conversation even MORE telling. Dog has said other crazy stuff before. Like wanting to Rob banks etc. I just think it slipped out and Frankly, I've watched their show ONCE and hated it. Too much 'posturing' for the cameras and trying 'counselling' with drugged out, hit rockbottom individuals. IMHO only
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Shel
Member
07-27-2005
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 3:53 pm
He was trying to convince his son not to go out with a woman who was trying to beat up Beth (Dog's wife) and set Dog himself up for some kind of scandal with the Enquirer. There are good and bad in all races. Dog was just trying to keep a bad one away from his family. Didn't work out so well for him. Language aside, I understand his point.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:00 pm
Actually Shel, that's my problem with Chapman's apology. He has since admitted that he has not spoken with, met or even SEEN this young lady. In addition she is an apparently upstanding citizen with no criminal record who works with disabled people. Her mother and one sibling are military veterans and one sister is currently serving in the middle east. She sounds like an absolutely normal/average person and she is now suing him NOT BECAUSE of the racial language but because he is slandering her character with one side of his mouth while apologizing out the other. The stuff about her being a con artist and threatening Beth is not true according to what Dog is now admitting.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:05 pm
exactly, Rissa ...
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:31 pm
The stuff about her being a con artist and threatening Beth is not true according to what Dog is now admitting. If that's the case, then he has blown his second chance and will deserve what he gets.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:47 pm
Personally, I think what you say and how you in act in private is far more revealing of your character. The fact that this happened in private, and it's obviously a word he uses regularly and comfortably, made me doubt the veracity of his apology from the beginning.
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Hermione69
Member
07-24-2002
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 4:52 pm
I found this on a YMCA website and believe it wholeheartedly - Character is measured by what we would do if we thought we would not be caught.
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Rissa
Member
03-20-2006
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 5:29 pm
So true Hermione!
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Frogichik
Member
06-11-2002
| Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 9:12 am
I will start this with saying I love Dog, Beth and especially sexy Leland. That said, he knew what he was doing was wrong and he did it intentionally. In the conversation to his son he said he didn't want the girlfriend around because they use the "N" word and they didn't want to end up in the National Enquirer for using a racial slur. To me, a surefire way not to end up in the National Enquirer, is to not use racial slurs in your daily life. If he made it a point to not use that language in his daily life and around his children, it wouldn't matter who taped what. To say he had a pass, because he is the "Dog" is just crap. He brought this on himself. he knows right from wrong and he choose wrong. Now he will have to suffer the punishment. He knows he is in the public eye and he knows what scrutiny he is under. He should have said we need to lead by example. He wants to be a role model, then be one. This is another reason I have such distrust for Christians, Republicans and especially Christian Republicans. No human is without flaws. These groups always put up a front that they are somehow above everyone morally. Yet everyday we see another priest or Senator involved some sort of sex scandal. Just live and let live. I live by he credo of do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Dog said he was called a half-breed growing up and he didn't like how it felt, so he should have learned to not use the same type of language to disparage another person.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Monday, November 12, 2007 - 6:40 am
As long as he learns his lesson and has a little fear of damage to his bank account I can forgive him.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:36 pm
how can someone learn their lesson without repercussions and some penalty? Idle threats to discontinue his show is not a penalty. a 'maybe' isnt serious enough. "Ground him" for months and have a review in a few months to see if they want him back. Make him sweat, make him think deeply about what it all 'really means', instead of a quick 'oh well I just talk that way' explanation.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 1:22 pm
Sometimes just plain old embarrassment is enough for one to learn a lesson. I know its worked on my several times.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 1:27 pm
Yep...the old "I'll never do THAT again"!
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