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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 5:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Anybody else watching? I loved that first guy :-)

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I watched. It was okay, but most were predictable.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 12:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
URI geller freaks me out. I never watched the show LOL

The man has gone on Coast to Coast with George Noorey (radio) and was stopping starting people's watches on command. Interestingly, when they played the Replay months later the SAME THING happened to people across north america AGAIN. there is something about that guy's voice. Strange

Surfgirl
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10-11-2003

Friday, October 26, 2007 - 2:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Surfgirl a private message Print Post    
What network??

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Friday, October 26, 2007 - 5:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Is it coming on again?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, October 26, 2007 - 6:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
It is on NBC on Wednesdays at 8:00. I'll see if I can do a little banner for it.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

Friday, October 26, 2007 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seattlemom a private message Print Post    
I likes the first guy also! I didn;t watch the whole show because for some reason I can't stand Criss Angel. I don't know why LOL but I never watch him even though I have heard he is good!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
The full shows are online at nbc.com, if anyone wanted to catch this. My trouble with shows like this (and Criss') is the gross factor. I don't even want to watch acts like the nail gun guy, however clever. At the same time I'm fascinated by how they do what they do.

Odd how the two main guys are Criss Angel, who always declares that everything he does is just manipulation, and Uri Geller, who has always maintained everything is real.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
do do do do do. do do do do. do do do do do do do do do do do do. PHENOMENON. rinse and repeat. :-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
You're a little bit loopy sometimes, Ketchup

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
The only act we caught was the nail gun guy. My son caught on to the trick right away - he said that of course the loaded gun with all the nails in it would be heavier than the others!

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
You know, I'm not sure if that is the trick, I don't think the nails make that much of a difference, or not a reliable difference. There was something similar on a Derren Brown show this summer, and he likes to reveal what's going on, and he said it was all just training in listening to lies, and how people say things. I'm shocked they let him do it on live tv.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 5:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Criss Angel looked so bored when the camera went over his head after the LIR did her schtick. Uri read my mind!

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 7:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
A good question is...

Do you BUY the reactions of the celebs?

For instance, the guy that "stopped" his heart. People I watched it with didn't buy any of it. They felt that it was all set up.

I felt that if it were set up, then there would have to be a lot of people in on it.

I did feel that the fight between Angel and the "medium" was staged. I also felt that Angel wasn't really being very critical of the others.

for instance... the girl with the knife. Easy one. There was a mark on the base that she put the knife into. She knew all along where it was. She was just acting. Angel didn't call her on it. That was bullshit.

It was nice when Angel called his bluff and offered a million dollars if he could say what was in that envelope he was holding. I loved that.

The guy with the matchbooks thrown up on the stage? When he took the pendulum out of his pocket, he let the TARGET matchbook drop to the floor from his pants. Funny how the ONE he had to match up with the card that he forced happened to be right in the area of the stage where he had walked before. Not impressed. Might have been more impressed had the audience been asked to write down what matchbox number they had before they threw them.

There were a few that were entertaining... but once you get the impression that things are set up and that Angel is holding back... then you just have trouble BUYING ANY OF IT.

Credibility is the key. I tuned in expecting to see Uri and Angel call the bluff of each and every one of them. I wanted to see the hosts explain how they did it and state that they were not impressed.

Oh... the English or Aussie accented host is getting tired. Very tired. Perhaps they should try a new accent.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 4:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I think they purposely choose celebrities who are already believers. I think Raven would have believed most things.

The stopped heart guy - I totally believe if you work on it you can slow down your pulse considerably. That fools the manual checks and I assume the ekg machine was a trick somehow.

I think there was some trick to the knife stabbing.

The medium was AWFUL. I agreed with Criss that it was comical. Clearly a stunt. Clearly everyone knows it's a stunt. I just don't get why people get any entertainment out of that. I thought the fight was staged too, although I didn't think the medium knew about Criss Angel's bluff, so maybe it wasn't.

Matchbooks - I like stunts where I have no idea how things are done. I didn't know how this was done but I have no doubt it was just a slight of hand somewhere. Now if she controlled the pendulum I'd have been more impressed.

I like the "mind reader" with the murder mystery, because I don't know how that's done. The assistant guy steals the show though whenever he's on.

I liked the ying-yang guy, although he had sweated off his "tattoo" which kind of spoilt it a bit.

To be honest I've been very unimpressed by all of them, and not even entertained by most. I much prefer the mentalists who admit it's all a con, and just make you wonder how it was a con.

Tim Vincent was a children's tv presenter. I don't think he's suited to anything that is meant to be serious.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
I have never seen Cris's show but it seems to me that he is the type of "mentalist" (and I have to admit I have never heard that term before this show) that is a realist. And what I mean by that is he puts on a "show" and I respect that more than those people who swear its real and they are just "magical" or "psychic" or whatever...b/c even if I know it's just a "con" it's still pretty incredible to me, I'm always amazed at these things.

And I also think that is why Cris was so irritated with the Medium guy, b/c he was sticking to the schitch that it was real and he was really communicating with the dead and Cris just called him out on it. And I also think that is why he doesn't call those others "out" on it, b/c they are putting on a show, they have to act scared or nobody watching would care, ya know?? Though I thought that women was a bit over the top.

At any rate I'm always pretty amazed at the abilities of all the... mentalists... as they say these days...

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 10:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
So if the EKG was a planted and fixed machine, were the producers in on the con? Was the doctor a real doctor?

The tat on the shoulder was totally bogus. They were clearly lying to the viewers with the clip of the tat going on. I hope Chris asks to see the tat next week.

Smartypants
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03-09-2007

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Smartypants a private message Print Post    
once I heard or read that some people can slow their heartbeat so much so that it is indetectable, they just get into this zen like trance or meditation. I think this is what the guy did. as far as the machine who knows..that is why these guys are so good. they figure out how to make it look real...

but then again it could be a mind over matter thing with him and maybe it was real...like the people that swallow knives, walk on fire, sleep on a bed of nails...that stuff is real but they have such increadible mind over body control they don't "feel" the pain and such...it's all so crazy to me though

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
we figured the matchbook.
forced choice of cards (any slight of hand magician knows how to get a person to select the desired card).
the planted matchbook was dropped by the performer when we were distracted by the audience throwing the boxes. it landed near his heel.

the hidden knife is another 'old' trick. but picking a very emotional assistant (Ross) makes it easier, cause he'll flinch if she goes near the knife. there could also be a very small mark on the pedestal since she selected where the knife would start.

the selected murder mystery stuff was great fun. picking 3 men who just happen to have the 3 different names? the input of the words into the scroll? but the best part was the time selected turned up to be prestamped on the audience hands. priceless!!!

seance guy is easily gone - even I could fake that one (just look at the objects LEFT on the table after Raven selected the car, you know which is missing and has to be in the box, duh!!). heart stop guy should be gone also (EKG machine can easily be set up, slowed pulse can be hard to detect by a non-medical person such as Raven).

tatoo was pretty ok (but, yeah, obviously rubbing off and took a chance that his subliminal messages wouldn't get through - but i think that celebrity was hyponotized and easily susceptible to suggestion, hence the reason she was selected for that act).



Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
hyponotized ???

When did that happen? Did I miss something?

Chupey
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07-03-2005

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chupey a private message Print Post    
I don't know if I'm going to watch this anymore. I was hoping it was real or at least very well done tricks. But dang it.. did anybody else see that TOTAL SCREWUP with the "magical lifting of the sunglasses"? He had the ladies rubbing their hands together and then the sunglasses lifted up. WELL... the lights on the stage totally lit up the wires attached to the glasses! I couldn't believe it, so I rewound to watch it again. Yep. Totally fake. How stupid. My brother did better magic tricks when he was nine!

And what upsets me even more is that this proves that the celebrities are in on it! There's no way those could have been normal sunglasses at any time. They are all lying to us and I don't appreciate that! Grrrr....

Tobor7
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07-19-2002

Monday, November 05, 2007 - 9:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tobor7 a private message Print Post    
I saw the wire as well. I'll watch a little longer, but I feel like the producers and the network and the stars are all in on the fraud.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 07, 2007 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
good show eh?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 3:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Watching it now. I presume the snake guy intended to get bitten the first time, and weighed the pain against the effect and thought it was worth it.

For the first guy with the voodoo dolls I wonder if the chair was rigged to produce the feelings. Then with the hands it was just suggestion and sleight of hand to mark them. I guess whatever he intended to do to the other two female assistants didn't work.

What's with the woman burning herself?! But I have no idea how she did that. Presumably she got the red ink onto the towel to press on herself but... good I thought. Not very entertaining but clever.

The paint gun guy - entertaining but I think they were squibs or whatever they use when they're shot in the movies. The actual paint balls didn't produce the splats.

The "acid" - I'd guess it wasn't acid, as he could use a mixture to create the effect - I expect it's something as simple as whatever the "acid" is has a different meniscus to water.

The assistants weren't very good - too much posing and saying things when it was really the magician's turn to be in the spotlight.

I think the female was my favourite tonight.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 4:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
I think the 2 blonds at the end of voodoo guy's act messed up. They reacted off-cue. LOL