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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 6:03 am
Title of this show ........ Spirits in the Material World ************************************* Next time on Pirate Master The crew comes face-to-face with their past sins when some familiar spirits appear aboard the Picton Castle. Will vengeful ghosts swipe the treasure and choose which of the remaining Pirates get marked? Can the Captain and the Officers sustain their first direct attack - or will mutiny prevail?
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 6:10 am
Well........I think this looks to be a very interesting twist to the show. If I'm reading the clues correctly, the phantom crew appears aboard. The pictures we have seen of them in a boat, are probably in a competition for which team (white or black) can find and bring back the loot. And, it appears, that and extra bonus for the phantom team, if they win the loot, will be to pick the three players to receive the black marks. My speculation: if the phantom crew wins, they will mark the officers and Azmuth will get the ax. I need to go see if there are any pictures of him anywhere in future episodes, but I think all the available pictures have played out now except the one of 6 players (3 in each boat) towards the end of the show and it's too far away to see anybody except the back of Ben's head. If the black crew wins, then the officers will get to do the black marks and I would think Kendra is very much on the spot right now with them.
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Grooch
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06-16-2006
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 6:37 am
Thanks for the spoiling, Alaginger! At least this possible twist will get me to keep watching. 
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 9:58 am
La de da... Dang, it's about time. Cause I am so seriously over the "triad" and their frickin' egos. SOMETHING needs to take these three down. I loved how Sean said he'd go for a mutiny if offered. I'd also have totally messed with the Captain. Even though the officers would have to agree, I'd have talked everyone into putting up a mutiny card. That way, Azymuth would've had to decide who to cut loose, and people would've held him accountable for that. (Even tho it was pretty clear who he wanted out of there, still.) I'd love to see the phantom crew just totally wipe out all of the carefully laid plans of the Three Egos. And then cut Azymuth adrift posthaste. If the Three Egos remain in power, I'm pretty sure Kendra and Nessa will be up along with Louie. I'm not sure if Sean will be able to find out whether Kendra did as he asked or not, but finally! Next episode has some drama to look forward to!!! (Besides the love fest between JD and Nessa!)
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 3:32 pm
Hey Cost.......just checking you up on the fact you are talking about Jay. Sean was set adrift the week before Joy was. But, I understand everything you were saying.
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Wednesday, July 11, 2007 - 5:42 pm
Yeah, I meant Jay. And by the time I realized it, it was too late to go back and fix it. The Three Egos. Azymuth, Jay, Ben.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Thursday, July 12, 2007 - 6:21 am
Just to keep us straight on this week's players: Black Crew (9) - remaining players:
Azmyth, Ben, Christa, Jay, Jupiter, Kendra, Laurel, Louie, Nessa White Crew (7) - phantom players (those previously set-adrift)
John, Christian, Alexis, Cheryl, Joy, Joe Don, Sean
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 8:01 am
A quote from over at TDT that is worth considering: ************************************* We note that TVGuide has changed their wording from a pirate being "cut adrift" to being "eliminated by the crew," exclusively for this episode. Could this indicate the white crew gets to do more than just abscond with treasure? Hmmm. ********************************* Ginger - TDT also alludes to the fact that in the previous pictures we have seen of the link I gave you guys to a slide show of 6 players (3 in each boat), the 3 players they don't see are Nessa, Kendra and Azmyth. Well, I'm glad they can see that good, because I sure can't see past the back of Ben's head, and maybe Louie's back in front of Ben with a tall gal on the end I am assuming is Christa. I can't tell who is in that 2nd boat at all. Anyway, sounds like TDT feels like there is a good chance that the phantom crew is going to win the challenge, abscond with the loot, and get the privilege of blackmarking 3 players....and the "triad" needs to be split up....so it doesn't look good for Azmyth. But, if the black crew wins the loot and sends the phantom crew off with nothing to show for their efforts, TDT feels the one set adrift will be either Nessa (because she can no longer hold the pardon and was close with Joe Don) or Kendra (who is the weakest teamplayer in swimming and possibly Jay will know she didn't keep her agreement while voting last week).
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 5:04 pm
Okay, I just want to put this here so we can see if it pans out. Somebody over at Survivor Addict has posted this from a source that can't be verified. In trying to verify it, he/she found something that causes them to question it because the source was quoting 15 episodes, and there are only 13 episodes. Ginger: It's probably all bogus, and just somebody speculating.......but the 13th episode could be just like in Survivor, starting with 4 and eliminating one, then 3 battle it out eliminating one, and then the last two do whatever to pick the winner....all in 1 episode...but the source could be counting it as 3 separate entities. Anyway, keep in mind that this is probably just speculation...but let's see how right it turns out to be. Here's the list. Nessa Azmyth Kendra Jay Louie Jupiter Christa Final two: Ben & Laurel Ben wins
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Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001
| Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 7:29 pm
Well, if Nessa goes next, the white crew must not win because JD wouldn't ditch his lady! BUT, if the white crew doesn't win, I can't see how the triad can ever be broken up in the expeditions because of the physical strength needed in them.
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 7:44 pm
JD may not have a choice in the matter, even if the white team does win. He may be outvoted, especially if he is back in the game.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Saturday, July 14, 2007 - 8:43 pm
With the number of players still in the game during this episode, it looks like there may be more than one player eliminated this week.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:38 am
Hey Gracie...If this spoiler/speculator was correct (which I don't think he/she is), I've compared their list with the scheduling that is shown over at TDT. TDT's schedule is predicted based on the information that has been obtained from the Dominican travel information that is available ...... plus we have the picture of Episode 11 where there are 6 players (3 in each boat - the link to the slideshow I gave in a previous thread). Using TDT's scheduling and this person's speculation, it would match up like this: Nessa = leaves Episode 8 - Phantom Episode Azmyth - leaves Episode 9 - Black Team Must Lose Kendra - Leaves Episode 10 Jay - Leaves Episode 11 - Pic shows 3 in each boat Louie - Leaves Episode 12 Jupiter - Leaves first part of Episode 13 Christa - Leaves 2nd half of Episode 13 Final two: Ben & Laurel Ben wins Now, if this speculator is correct, in order for Nessa to leave, the black team would have to win....that's just a given. The CBS hype is hinting that something great happens in this Episode, like the phantom crew wins....and if they do, probably the officers would get black-marked. Ben would not leave since we see him in the Episode 11 shot (3 people in each boat). TDT seems to think that Azmyth would be the favored to be cut adrift.......but in the Episode 11 shot of 3 people in each boat, they can't make out if that is Azmyth or Jay in the back boat .... but they think it is Jay. This has been one very hard show to spoil, which is much more fun!!!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 5:41 am
Here's that pic again from Episode 11....

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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 10:13 am
quote:The CBS hype is hinting that something great happens in this Episode, like the phantom crew wins....and if they do, probably the officers would get black-marked.
It may be that the phantom crew can participate this week only, but cannot make the decision who gets black spotted! There could be another twist where Azmyth buys the pardon to keep from being eliminated with mutiny, or otoh is 'eliminated' with a mutiny and Nessa goes next week. quote:Now, if this speculator is correct, in order for Nessa to leave, the black team would have to win....that's just a given.
It is possible for the phantom team to win with Nessa on the black team and then be black spotted by the phantom crew. It is more fun to speculate, and the spoilers haven't been 100% right either!
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Sunday, July 15, 2007 - 12:32 pm
I'm looking forward to this episode because it is definitely going to be something different. After that, I'm afraid it is going to be the "same old thing"....but we'll see!!!
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 8:26 am
Thought sure you'd come back and tell me I'm full of wax or something! You are very good at speculating, Alaginger, and I appreciate all your efforts. Thank you.
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 11:01 am
Now Gracie .... why would I do that? That's what this thread of spoiling and speculating is all about.......the sharing of news and opinions. But if it will make you feel any better, I'll tell you, "You are full of wax"......(but I don't think you are).
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Urgrace
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08-19-2000
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 12:20 pm

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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 1:02 pm
Are there any pictures available from the previews? I cannot get the preview from the CBS site (don't have MIME), there is no preview at youtube, and would appreciate some stills.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 4:14 pm
I cannot find any still shots of this week's show. TDT still has the same two pics up they have been using of the phantom crew in the red boat wearing the white buffs, and the other crew in the black boat. Survivor Addicts doesn't even have a thread up for Episode 8, but they did for previous episodes. I went back over to CBS and watched the video. It's the same preview we got at the end of last week's show. Caddo's Voice: "The pirates come face to face with the ghosts of their past." Shot of a surprised Nessa - "Oh My God" Laurel - "I'm so scared" Jupiter rolling her eyes. At a later confessional with Jay. Jay - "I'm a little scared right now". Then a shot of Azmyth eating and Jupiter at the table says to him, "They want Mutiny" and Azmyth looks very concerned. Another bit from Jay at a confessional. Jay - "If I get approached about a mutiny, I will mutiny." (with a sly grin on his face)
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Alaginger
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07-11-2002
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 4:18 pm
Also, I went back to the site where I had seen the above speculated list of booted players. Another poster says they forwarded the list to Kendra and Ben. Kendra responded "don't believe all you read" and of course can't talk about the show. Ben didn't respond, but his "My Space" account is all about trying to get his band up and running and this poster thinks that if he did win he might be too busy with his winnings from the show if he were the winner. Also this poster says that Jay and Jupiter, neither one, have a "My Space" up and running, so she thinks the winner is one of these two. Again..........just bringing over other people's speculation and what they have experienced....for what it's worth. Sounds like nobody knows for sure on this show...
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Monday, July 16, 2007 - 6:54 pm
Thank you so much!
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:12 am
More from TDT ......... TDT has slipped Nessa's picture under the section from being "cut adrift" tonight. The talk shows that they think it could be either Nessa, Kendra or Azmyth....but they are leaning toward Nessa. They also think Kendra and Azmyth go in the next 2 episodes. Meanwhile, they also mention receiving that list I gave you guys above, and so far they do not put any credence to it.......but after Episode 11, they will look at it again.
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:00 pm
LOL This is great. None of us knew what was going to happen and none of us speculated correctly. Nessa wasn't even black spotted. What a surprise. Next week Nessa or Kendra. I think Azmyth stays.
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:17 am
LOL is absolutely right.......I was grinning my head off. It was too funny when Nessa didn't even get a black mark..... And, what about John losing the key? I felt bad for the guy, cause it wasn't really his fault...but he could have secured it better than that. The phantom crew really gave it all they had and would have caused some havoc if it hadn't been for the one little second where the key went "bye bye". And, I can't believe the camera caught it. What a great shot! Kendra has to sell the pardon, Nessa can buy it again....so, my money would be that Kendra goes next. I wonder what TDT was thinking last night (LOL). At least they are trying to read the pictures....but it's just very skimpy information to go on.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:44 am
I love reading spoilers, and I love it even more when they are wrong. Does that make me a bad person?
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Urgrace
Member
08-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 7:38 am
Hope not Roxip, since we all do it! LOL
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Alaginger
Member
07-11-2002
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 8:28 am
Most definitely not, Roxip....I think it is more fun when all the spoiling is done, and then it is wrong. It's too funny!!! But, in the case of Pirate Master, we don't actually have any spoiling. All we have is speculation based on pictures, and except for the one picture left of Episode 11, all the other pictures have played out......so, I'm not sure what the speculation can even come from now.
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Costacat
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07-15-2000
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 9:24 am
FWIW, I kinda thought it was staged, the key falling out of John's shorts. I mean, I do think he lost the key. But I think they needed actual footage showing him doing so, so they staged the dash up the river and filmed it a second time. I have no real proof and I've already erased my recording, but I really wouldn't put it past the producers.
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Urgrace
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08-19-2000
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 10:30 am
The part I thought was strange was when the white crew asked about the key then, not knowing where to start looking, just stood around instead of immediately backtracking.
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 11:11 am
LOL...I love the spoiling, I love the speculation (I read the end of books first too by the way -- but then I still read the book)...and I LOVE LOVE LOVE when it is wrong! And I kind of enjoy being slightly skewed too, otherwise I would have a life and not live vicariously through reality television.
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Konamouse
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07-16-2001
| Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 1:53 pm
Either Jupiter was dumb, or Az was dumb. She was trying to tell him that the crew was planning a mutiny - but doing it in the open like that to "call them out" was misinterpreted by Az & his officers as *her* opinion (that there should be a mutiny) and NOT as a *warning* (as she intended). As a result, she was labeled the traitor (where before she considered herself allied with the boys). Guess she should have approached the Captain alone and just said straight out that the OTHERs were talking mutiny and she refused to vote in that manner. Why didn't she do that after the black spot? (Or did I sleep through something). DUMB.
P.S. I agree, that the camera caught the loss of the key was either just an amazing coincidence (found by hours of video review) or restaged after the fact to give a good visual to the event.
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