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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 3:36 pm
oh come on you guys. I know the diff between those words and often will type the wrong one as a Typo. NOT intentionally. There are many people here online who are on meds and have cognitive issues because of that. I myself try to proofread my posts but STILL miss stupid errors. just saying I agree with the pet peeve Too, BUT can understand why people do it.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 3:44 pm
this is the first episode where i did NOT agree with Ramsay. The concept of different combinations of sauces WAS a good one. BUT not that original, we have it here in many places that sell Pasta/ chick/ beef. A pizza oven WITH a few side dishes would have worked. Instead of thirty combos, why not make it ten combos?? it seemed spiteful to completely change the menu to Eliminate the uniqueness. This is in L.A. It was right by the studios. Not everyone speaks english....I LOVE PICTURES in a menu when eating in a foreign country. Sebastian was trying to be 'discovered'. His goal is to be on TV and to have Franchises. His ability to steamroll over people made him think he will get backing from someone by sucking up when they come in for food. This comp.ing people was ruining the business. I think Ramsay could have played this episode a little differently. Sebastian was obviously unchangeable and just wanted a freebee makeover and exposure. Okay, I'm finished blabbing. Going to read those LINKS you guys found LOL Sebastian's SEXY pizza??????? that poor man has issues. Who'd call it that? I saw tons of kids at the tables on the show. Inappropriate for a family restaurant IMHO
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 9:28 am
Sunshyne, you don't live in California. Nor do you live in southern California. Pictures may be all well and good (although I think they are extremely tacky), but those pictures weren't even professional. They were taken by Sebastian, and they looked like it. FWIW, Sebastian was the only one who thought his concept was "unique." Everyone else, including the staff, thought it was confusing. Especially his customers. Finally, the only places in southern California that provide a list of "flavors" are Thai restaurants. You choose the type of item you want and the protein to go with it. Places like California Pizza Kitchen provide a lot of different options, but they are specific... 10 different pizzas, 10 different salads, 10 different pastas. Finally, it's not the large menu that's a problem. Look at Jerry's Deli. It's the confusing aspect of the menu that's a problem. And "unique" is not a good thing. Especially if your restaurant is losing money.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 1:45 pm
good points - Sun I was suddenly taken to the Chinese Restaurant that opened - not only are there pictures on the wall - but the food in the showcase - its plastic, but its a mock up ( and thanks for the forgiveness for typos, I've been suffering terribly lately - barely going online at all - I know I have typos, and I just cant edit) Costacat - EXACTLY - he was way over the top - I really think he hoped to have a "unique" concept that he totally could market into a franchise so he could just sit back and earn money... he just didnt come across as a chef - but if you franchise stuff, you have to have the ease of "frozen" or prepared food to franchise - it was icky - and he didnt get it! (not to mention confusing)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, November 11, 2007 - 5:59 pm
Sunshyne, you don't live in California. Nor do you live in southern California LOL I am not sure of your point. You dont have a tourist trade? no "Studio tours" for foreigners who have to eat eventually? I've travelled throughout the world and eaten at many restaurants. Even HAwaii has pictures on menus due to the fact that they have many tourists from nonenglish speaking countries. I've also seen that 'plastic food' display you are talking about reader LOL In one place I saw the colours were so old that the food looked gruesome LOL. I think the frozen food was Sebastian's biggest faux pas. it completely grossed me out. BUT the ready-made sauces didnt bother me.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:33 pm
Don't forget to watch tonight! This is the episode I went to the night of the big reveal.
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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:16 pm
I did watch it. When he puked after eating that shepherd's pie I thought I would die. But I loved the episode. It was great to see them doing so well 2 months later. So are you going to post a nice long story or did you already? Were you on the show? One of those blurred out faces in the background?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:54 pm
It's weird, that room looked like it could have held WAY more seating. I think it didn't look very different from before the makeover. Every Ramsay show has "45 minutes after service, and no food has left the kitchen". Having worked in restaurants for the past 15 years, this is just the most ridiculous and sort of purposely honest statement. Very few restaurants work on a "single seating time" basis. Having people come in all at once will absolutely slam the kitchen, which is why restaurants will ell you they don't have anything at 8, but have room at 730 or 830. It has bugged me about all of the Ramsay shows. He gives a "sign" to every restaurant. Finn McCool's looks like it doesn't know what it is. It has these huge tables set out to be a fine dining place, but then it has a big bar, and a whole stand-up place. They don't mix. I'm all for tableside service, but it seems a little too much for the waitress to handle, in a crazy busy restaurant, and she's supposed to take orders AND cook food too? I think it's something not covered, but Ramsay always seems to go into places where they are family owned places that have ZERO CLUE how a French-classical kitchen works. They don't get that whole "respect" element, where it's like "yes chef!" and "no chef!" and there is NO sharing of your own opinion to the chef. So you have these little ego guys in the kitchen, and yo uhave Ramsay who is used to people who don't dare look him in the eye, and the ONLY thing out of their mouth all night is "YES, chef." That's where most of the conflict comes from, in these shows The arrogance, and ignorance of these family-owned kitchen guys.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 10:55 pm
Grooch! How cool!! Tell us all about it!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:53 am
I had a hard time watching this episode. For some reason that Cook gave me the complete heebeegeebees. He had such a maniacal look in eyes, red in his face and his weird jackolantern teeth might give me nightmares tonight. His neurotic manic frenzies and verbal abuse and Drinking on the job bothered me. So did his blatant dismissive behaviour at his dad. The dad seemed like a really nice guy. I liked the idea of the Salad and chicken served tableside. however, doing one table at a time seemed silly. I can imagine a doubledecker trolley with three or four chickens and One huge salad bowl. and One waitress whom does all of the Deboning/ serving so they get superfast at it.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 3:53 am
I had a hard time watching this episode. For some reason that Cook gave me the complete heebeegeebees. He had such a maniacal look in eyes, red in his face and his weird jackolantern teeth might give me nightmares tonight. His neurotic manic frenzies and verbal abuse and Drinking on the job bothered me. So did his blatant dismissive behaviour at his dad. The dad seemed like a really nice guy. I liked the idea of the Salad and chicken served tableside. however, doing one table at a time seemed silly. I can imagine a doubledecker trolley with three or four chickens and One huge salad bowl. and One waitress whom does all of the Deboning/ serving so they get superfast at it.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 10:27 pm
I think being family made it tough at first. Brain had an ego the size of a zeplin. Gordon figured him out though. Here's my take on what to do IF you are going to have a server prepare a dish. Make it a huge WOW factor per unit difficulty. The salad is not a huge difficulty factor bit not a WOW factor at all. Talk about big tips for your servers for doing a banana's Foster! Banana's Foster--now that is a HUGE wow factor and once learned no more difficult than a Caesar. I think you have done well in food prep if you can get a food critic to say the food was worth the wait.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 11:39 pm
and how the HECK does a guy who looks like that even HAVE an ego? let alone one that Huge? I'll never figure out the male mind.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 7:02 am
What does looks have to do with anyone having an ego? And just because you don't think he's good looking doesn't mean he isn't. I agree Lance, the family thing was a tough hurdle to overcome. And yeah, tableside service should be something awesome... flames, baby, flames!! 
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 7:39 am
And just because you don't think he's good looking doesn't mean he isn't. I've always said it's in the eye of the beholder.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 10:25 am
That guy wasn't ugly. Russell Crowe is ugly.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 11:20 am
Grooch - you tease get back here!! lol I am lol at the comments - male ego? eye of the beholder... Russell Crowe... lol Flames indeed!! Dont forget a good wine to go with those flames!! Make mine Cherries Jubilee!! *g Weird that I had made Shephard's Pie for our dinner that night!! Only I think Chef Ramsey's recipe called for making a roast, whereas mine had the ground beef (or lamb) I can tell you his looked much better!! (Ramsey's - not that greasy frozen mess!)
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 1:40 pm
Sorry guys, I haven't been around to post and I am about to take off for the weekend. But I will leave you with this tidbit. My sister is now working there and she stopped by this afternoon and we asked how it went with the showing of the show. She said that the show made it appear that Brian (the chef) kept drinking all night long. She said that he had only one beer that night and they had 5 cameras on him and they kept repeating him drinking the one same beer from 5 different angles. Also, it was his birthday that night and that was why he had the beer and went out to see his friends at the bar. He's a really good guy as well as his family. The problem with the seating and craziness is basically the whole town was invited for a free meal and they wouldn't seat anyone till a certain time and then they all ordered at once. Not fair to the kitchen and not fair to the customers who had already been waiting over an hour to be seated while the crew and production staff were getting everything ready. And there were supposed to be 3 seatings that night. They didn't even show the bagpipers who came in their kilts to play. It was a really fun night and I had left early. Oh, my sister also said that last night the restaurant was getting faxes from all over the world congratulating them. There was only one nasty phone call (out of many postive ones) from "Chef Gordon" who called to tell them the food sucked. lol!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:32 pm
He had such a maniacal look in eyes, red in his face and his weird jackolantern teeth might give me nightmares tonight. where did I say ugly?? LOL Misquoted yet again. If I am TVCH at the 10 yr anniversary I can guarantee to STILL be misquoted on that date. However, I've never in my life met anyone who thought Bug eyes and brown irregular shaped jackolantern teeth were attractive. If you do, great. But If I polled a thousand women I'd be surprised if more that one or two would have called him a beauty. In my opinion, It has nothing to do with eye of the beholder, it has to do with cultural and society standards. Like women who are Very fat. It doesnt matter what their face looks like, the majority of men would say they are unattractive. YIKES offtopic crosspoint LOL }
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:33 pm
THX for the insider info Grooch. I'm sure tv editing was being done for maximum 'effect'. I'm sure that everyone is much different in real life without the stress of cameras following them around.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:39 pm
quote:LOL Misquoted yet again. If I am TVCH at the 10 yr anniversary I can guarantee to STILL be misquoted on that date.
We will all will be misquoted. It's a given. :0)
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 3:43 pm
Thanks Grooch!! I wondered about that beer behind the scenes - it did seem more like for a "production effect" and I thought the level of the beer rose and fell!! Thanks for telling us about the free food!! and all the grumblings, glad they're doing great!!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, November 16, 2007 - 6:44 pm
I just love having "insider" information! Thanks, Grooch!
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 9:04 am
Hey Grooch did you ask Gordo for a spot on Hell's Kitchen 4 ?
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 8:16 am
Very interesting, Grooch. Thanks.
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