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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 4:17 pm
OK, every thing else aside, just one puzzlement for me, why was the church mom so against the money for art..?? Didnt get it, especially when she made such a big deal about the scrap book project (somthing I consider a art)..She seemed to enjoy showing the little boy how to do scrapbooks but didnt want to invest in "art" for her own kids... HMMMmmmm.... those were some beautiful girls though... the teen yrs are going to be rough riding.. LOL.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 4:30 pm
<100> some religions prohibit alcohol. obviously the dad and the mom have agreed to bring their kids up in this religion. the dad was wrong in allowing that other mother and his mother to bring the alcohol into her house while she was gone. The way they went about it and talked about it was disrespectful. his mother is a pot stirrer and would never be allowed back into my home. yes, the mom was too rigid and needed to unbend. I, personally, don't agree with how they are bringing up their kids, but that is their decision. It's really a shame that they chose to only show her bad side, she must be doing something right because those girls are beautiful, smart, respectful, and seem to be very level headed.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 5:59 pm
I have worked with "Born Again" Christians and I have seen them drink wine. So, I'm wondering if the "no liquor in the house" rule was a personal rule and not one of the Church. One of them even went in 1/2 with me on a case of wine from Napa Valley.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 6:32 pm
Many different denominations consider themselves to be "Born Again" and I know some of them don't drink, or serve alcohol, they don't dance, and other things.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 7:14 pm
but anyway, I'm not defending her, but if they had rules in their house, for whatever reason, I blame the husband for disrespecting her and for allowing his mother to disrespect her.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 7:17 pm
I cannot believe I missed part two!!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 7:31 pm
OK, have read up.. searched on my DVR but clearly this isn't a show that repeats (well, maybe in the summer). Those were amazing girls and.. with many of the people on these shows, I think they love to show us the more outrageous sides to them if they get it on film. From what we saw it is hard to envision just who influenced those lovely young women to be as they are but somthing right had to be happening in there that we didn't see.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 7:44 pm
I would guess the alcohol thing is her personal decision (probably her mom's personal decision) as her friends didn't have any problem drinking the wine. I agree that it was disrespectful of her husband and his mother to bring the alcohol in knowing it was absolutely against her rules. I can also understand her husband not standing up against it as he probably is too afraid to voice his opinion or speak up after living with her. He couldn't even make the simplest decisions about the party. I don't think he's allowed to make decisions.
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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 2:36 pm
Shoot.. I missed the second part. My husband and I went to see a Bob Seiger concert in Nashville so we had a lot to do Friday night. And guess what? He is a preacher, we are "born again" and some consider us conservative and others call us liberal. It depends on who is standing on our front porch looking in.
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Sadiesmom
Member
03-13-2002
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 4:25 pm
Opinioins, opinions - I sit and realize this is a reality program and is edited - I don't really know what was going on, if people were egged on outside the view but... Evang Mom was acting very passive aggressive about the wine - her husband was saying "we will discuss it later" and she kept asking the girls about it - It was as if she expected the girls to run the house and make the rules while she was gone. I am always leery of people who are in this program to show others the correct way and prefer those who want to try something different and learn from it. I have religious friends and non-religious friends - there are people in both sets who are open minded or closed minded. I became friends with a woman who was rebelling from her very strict baptist upbringing when she found taht her minister - her father - was having an affair with her mother's sister and drinking and watching movies, while she was suffering through a marriage where her husband beat her since divorce was frowned on, she had never heard music or seen TV or a movie. I got to introduce her to a lot of things (the beach, movies, hiking in the mountains. But then she went through a wild period and finally settled down to what seems like a normal religious life where there is some, but not too much drinking and a lot of praying and a lot of good works and a great husband (almost 25 years) who shares her views and life. I am not going to judge people so much on thier religion as much as how they treat others. Others starts with treating your own family with respect. As much as I am sure the show was deliberately contrasting the families, I did feel that Evang Mom was tough on her family and not so thrilled to see them. Now, I do question why there was no money put aside for education of the girls from pierced mom. All the money for fun things seems trivial and not very nice - like she did not feel it was worthy putting thought into it or some sort of payback for a woman she had not yet met.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 5:07 pm
Sadies, Evang Mom's husband told Tattoo Mom he wanted a boat. I think the reason she left the majority of the money for the pool and the boat was she was hoping it would encourage the father to do more "family" things with his daughters. Obviously, since the girls and the husband were happy with the way the money was spent, I think Tattoo Mom did a good job spending the money. I hate to admit this, but I took a lot of pleasure in seeing Evang Mom miserable as to how the money was spent and pissing and moaning about the wine at the party. But then again, I take great pleasure in seeing control freaks lose control.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 6:01 pm
I agree there, Lexie_girl. Nothing like seeing a control freak not get their way. These women do have to realize that their husband and kids have a tremendous influence on the visiting mom about how the money is spent. Where does she think tattoo mom ever got the idea they wanted a boat or a pool?
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 7:28 pm
Evang bible mom forgot about “honor thy husband”. I hate when the moms brow beat/disrespect their real husbands. Evang mom filliping out about the wine was silly. Aren’t they supposed to bring their lifestyle to the new family. The agnostic dad did a good job trying to accommodate evang mom’s bible ways. I thought the money split was good on both sides. I especially hate when the mom throws a hissy fit because the money wasn’t spent the way she would have liked. I was just glad that this episode wasn’t about one messy household being cleaned up by the neat freak.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 7:46 pm
On the alcohol issue: if the dad did not have a problem with it being consumed in his house, should his wishes not matter? I sort of get the feeling that he spends so much bloody time on the computer because his wife controls everything. For crying out loud, he lives there too...he should be able to do what he wants to do at his home too every now and again. By the way, I agree with whoever said that the evang mom's MIL was a pot stirrer. I sure would hate it if my MIL but into how I run my home.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 7:49 pm
I understand what you are saying Rehtse about a MIL butting into how you run your home, but in this case, Evang Mom's MIL said she had very little contact with the family because she didn't get along/agree with her DIL. I got the impression that she was rarely in their home, much less butting in as to how the home was run.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 9:15 pm
I didn't get the butting in from the MIL but then I didn't give the show my full attention. Dad spent all his time on the computer because he needs a place to hide from his wife. I would like to volunteer myself, my home and my husband for any neat freak out there who wants to trade places. However, I have to warn you ~ it will probably take much longer than 10 days.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 10:03 pm
I thought the money was Ridiculously doled out by Tatto mom. THREE girls!! ZERO money for education??!! instead 40,000 to luxury items that arent needed?? I missed that anyone defined themselves as Evangelical. My thought is "where is grandpa?" Grandma <100> and her scowling face bothered me. Did she even smile thru the whole show? I LOVED how the eldest daughter deflected her mother's rage. "Grandma Dion brings wine all the Time Mom!!" That girl was really standing up to her mom. I wonder how much of the Christian Mom's reaction was overly dramatic. Theory....real dad was a Boozer who took off when she was a kid. That way I understand why she wants a doormat of a husband to "control". It also would explain her obsession with alcohol....when obviously ALL her friends are comfortable with a glass of Wine.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 10:07 pm
Theory....real dad was a Boozer who took off when she was a kid. Would help explain the snarly MIL too. That poor woman didn't stand a chance being raised by <100>. Just a guess here but I have a little niggle telling me that MIL runs the daughter who runs the house.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 10:18 pm
oh I guess I should add.....I caught a look in Dad's eyes that surprised me. I recognized it instantly. My ex used to like to play the poor picked on Quiet guy who is being 'controlled'. He would often ham it up around people who didnt know him well. I gave my ex complete freedom to go where ever he wished, with any friends he wanted and spend all his money on anything he wished...which was usually stupid stuff for the truck or a THIRD boat. Occasionally he'd leave to go get some milk for supper then never come back...I'd find out a day later he ended up meeting a buddy and going partying/crashing at the guy's house. However, I used to ask him to just let me know where he was, give me a call and He'd go into this 'act' about how I was so controlling . This was pre-cellphone era LOL (('I'd ask him where he was going ...in case of emergency')) anyways, my point is, in Private he was forceful and very verbal as to any discussions...but in front of certain people (and later! a couples counsellor) he would get quiet and posture himself as a victim. He thought it was hilarious to do as it got me furious. Anyways, the Christian woman's husband got a certain look on his face and around his eyes when he found out that both the Boat and Pool were covered. It was like "HA!! I did it. My plan worked" That same look would come into eyes when my ex 'got away' with something....hoodwinked someone. I think we'd all be surprised if we found out the guy was really a control freak too and was keeping a low profile and not talking much to GIVE the impression that he was a poor downtrodden husband. LOL
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, December 11, 2006 - 1:04 am
Total possibility <100>. I know my husband is totally different around people than he is at home. All the people who think he is so wonderful would be so surprised.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, December 11, 2006 - 4:51 am
Exactly!!! my ex LOVED to manipulate people and was a great actor. I dont think his friends even realized he wasnt calling. I had to laugh...for the last few months we were together before I booted him out, His FRIENDS would call me and let me know where he was (on their OWN, I never asked...but they would hear me remind him to call if he wasnt coming back or something) ROTFL!!! Some of the guys didnt like his lying to me as I was supposedly a "good woman". I still feel suckered that I wasted so many years on the creature. He was such an excellent liar that I now find I dont trust anything that anyone says. LOL
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, December 11, 2006 - 8:25 am
Sunshyne, I got the same feeling about him ...
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Monday, December 11, 2006 - 6:09 pm
Sunshyne, now that you mention it, he did get a "look" in his eyes. In retrospect, I think you might be onto something there. Too bad they don't do "what happened after the cameras stopped rolling" type of shows for this show. I sure would love to know what went on.
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Regee
Member
10-09-2005
| Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 8:23 am
How we see things differently, I thought the Dad looked so happy as he was "heard" and got something he wanted for once. Also has anyone ever heard if they really have to spend the money that way or can they do with what they want with it after the camera's stop rolling?
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Tuesday, December 12, 2006 - 5:48 pm
I did not have any money for college saved for me, so if these girls want to study, they will find a way. If the mixed family really is so dysfunctional, the boat and the pool might actually bring them all together. I don't have a problem with the way they allocated the money.
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