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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 8:49 pm
I think everyone was surprised that Angela didn't go. How can she design clothes if she can't sketch?

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Jhezzie
Member
07-05-2001
| Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 9:15 pm
I would have much rather had some Malan drama, than the designer who can't sketch, too. By the way, did anyone else see pins, shining in the champagne colored dress with the empire waist and the layers? I think it was one of the first. I don't have everyone's names and faces yet. Or a TiVo! Anyway, I swear there are pins all over the front panel, where the outer layer splits to reveal the layers underneath. Am I crazed?
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:20 pm
What a surprise - I Thought Angela's "team leader" was going to go from reading stuff around, so I was expecting to hate the dress, or at least was expecting that they didnt get the material, and he wouldnt get it sewn at all - I was so confused, he complained that whatever she did to the dress, he had to take out and redo - in every clip it showed her trying to do something, and he was sending her away - it didnt make too much sense... but you know there has to be a reason - not that she came across as one you felt sorry for, no, that went to Malan - how sad they picked Angela over Malan!! He seemed to have such an honest exit interview, his tears were sad! Has anyone captured a picture of Ms USA in the pageant dress???
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, July 19, 2006 - 10:26 pm
Hey, I just realized, they were in their apartments, and slept in beds!!! Aw man, it would've been nice to have a mention of what happened - off to read the blogs!! eta it looks like the pageant is July 23
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Melle
Member
07-17-2006
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 12:17 am
Pageant airs sometime this week so we will be able to see how the dress looks on her and what was changed. I have a guess as to who leaves and why. It is in no way a spoiler because it only comes out of my little head and is based on no facts whatsoever. I think Vincent goes cookoo for cocoa puffs and freaks out - maybe even threatening someone with scissors who is trying to calm him down.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 2:56 am
No surprise, but THIS sure doesn't look like the winning gown from episode 2. Of course, I'm pretty sure the pageant contestants don't show up with only one gown for a gig like this either. I just wonder if she really will wear the winning gown at the pageant on the 23rd. Sasha Cohen never wore the winning design from the skating challenge last season either.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 3:55 am
Okay, I wasn't expecting to like Malan, but he was really starting to grow on me. And his story about his mom tearing up his first sketches and how he'd have a chance on Project Runway to show her he was a good designer...and then he gets eliminated? They were definitely pulling my heartstrings on that one. And I admit that I teared up a bit when he was talking about it being hard to say goodbye because he'd never had many friends and this was the first place he'd felt like he fit in. Just so sad...especially when he was going instead of Angela. Uggghhhh Angela. She can't sketch? Really, it isn't that hard. Nobody is expecting her to be an artist...some of the others had very rough sketches. I am neither an artist nor a designer, but I can sketch out any project I am going to work on. They might be crude, but they are sketches. I think she should have been eliminated for not even attempting to sketch. Is it possible that she was just making sure she wouldn't be a team leader so she'd be able to ride someone else's coattails? I think she really believed Kayne was going to pick her. Honestly, she doesn't sketch, she said she doesn't know how to construct or design gowns...and we kept her why? Was it just me (I was brushing my dog, so not watching everything) or did they not show Vincent's dress until it was finished? I remember seeing a back view while Tim was talking to them. From the way Angela was putting down the dress ("As a designer, I wouldn't want my name attached to this dress"), I was expecting it to be the most hideous thing ever, but didn't really think the finished dress was bad. I certainly thought it was better than Jeffrey's. So far, I'm really only loving Robert (although Kayne has his moments and I could grow to love him). I looked up some of his Barbie designs and he has done some gorgeous stuff. To answer someone above, didn't he go to Parsons? I think in the Road to the Runway show, Tim interviewed that he remembered Robert from his days as a student at Parsons. Was it just me, or was Keith totally feeling up Miss USA during his presentation?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:31 am
yep Parsons....I love his designs but almost feel it is unfair for him to be there but I guess the others have somewhat established careers this time around
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:37 am
Keith was totally feeling up Ms USA but hey, she went with it. I wanted Malan to stay and could not believe that they kept the whiny Angela. Malan took responsibility for the flaws in his design and for that reason alone should have been kept over Angela, whose behavior was horrible. I felt that Malan's design would have worked if he had had more opportunity to experiment with different fabrics on top. The fabric choice was wrong for what he tried to do. The fabric on the bottom would have worked better on top. The top fabric was too matte and too dark. You needed for those gathers to really "pop" and shine with different colors. Something like what Kayne chose would have worked well. I like Robert, Keith, Jeffrey, Vincent, and I always root for the contestants named "Alison". I also really like the German woman, "Uli"? Further rant on Angela - not sketching the designs? Not sewing? WHAT? Isn't this the one from OHIO? What else is there to do in Ohio that she doesn't have time to pick up those basic skills? Cow tipping? AND, she wears the ugliest skirts I have ever actually seen on a woman.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:42 am
In the Vincent/Anglea battle, I think both of them behaved abominably. A leader is supposed to inspire and encourage teamwork, and he kept dismissing her. In my opinion, his dress was very 1980's. Maybe that's retro now; just looked out of date to me. I would have liked to see a double elimination on that team.
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Fruitbat
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08-07-2000
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:56 am
I wasn't surprised to see Malan go ahead of Angela. She has irritated some of the designers and that always means a longer stay. Malan was a character but not likely to do much more than act odd, and for this show to retain credibility, he DID design that lousy gown. I read that Vincent will stay much longer than his skill dictates because he gives good tape. I appreciate this shows balance in keeping a good character but not compromising it's dedication in being serious contest.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 5:56 am
I don't think it was an accident that Angela was not selected by any of the other designers and that Vincent got "stuck" with her. Whatever Angela may have thought of Vincent's design, the CLIENT actually picked it, so you have to go with that. If she had thought that it was too simple or too retro, she would have selected something else (but not Angela's since she had no sketch.) After you actually saw the design, you could understand why the selection of the fabric was so important, because the dress was so simple. The color range that they had to select from was not going to make the dress stand out. It had to be the right fabric, with some shine, but that would not wrinkle. I think that design would have looked better cut on the bias, but that's just me. She should have just stood there and faded into the background if he did not want her help. She never would have even made the radar. The only reason she did was because of the bickering. The dress itself was OK.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:27 am
Alisons, roflol about Angela skirts - exactly it looked so out of place that red skirt with that long coat, or whatever!! I did chuckle, but hey, what do I know of fashion??? Today's Chicago Tribune gossip page made mention of Runway, and Heidi saying something "naughty happens" but that was about it, they speculated like someone earlier posted it may have to do with his sketches coming off of the website... Does Vincents voice annoy anyone else? I'm finally starting to make the connection of names and faces - sorry for any confusion I caused!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:30 am
Found a link that goes into detail of the "maybe scandal" Some people suggest that Michael - who is considered one of the show's frontrunners - made the sketches by using a filter on the popular computer program PhotoShop that can turn photos into drawings. Speculation is high that the judges may have known or learned later that Michael submitted copied sketches and will boot him out of the contest on an upcoming episode of "Runway." Side-by-side comparisons of Michael's drawings indicate that his sketches are nearly identical to designs by Giambattista Valli, Marni and Lacoste from last year's spring collections. Bravo officials declined to comment yesterday, but Michael, in a message posted yesterday on omgblog.com - which was among the first to point out the similarities - said the drawings were not submitted as his own work but as an assignment on "trends." "For the record, I submitted five portfolios for the judges' review," he wrote. "The one you seem to be focusing on was a research assignment I did for a client in which I reviewed key fashion trends. . . . The panel of judges that reviewed my work had many years of experience behind them. I found them neither ignorant, uninformed or misguided about their own profession." NY Post Link
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:33 am
Vincent was cracking me up, telling Angela to stand 3 feet behind him because he could feel her negativity. I guess 3 feet is the appropriate distance for the negativity not too reach. And doesn't he have hair like Elton John?
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:39 am
Which gown would you have worn if you were Miss USA? I thought the rhinestones on the winning gown were way too much. The rest was kind of cool, though. I preferred Uli's design, but I was thinking that she was too short to make the flow work properly. I liked the color choice that Vincent had, and with more time, (and losing the shoulder thing) it could have been a nice gown. The white, sparkly dress was nice, but a bit TOO simple in the design. The sparkle did all the work, not the design.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 8:47 am
I felt like I've seen the white sparkly dress, many times before. It didn't seem original at all. I liked Uli's dress the best. I loved the way the different colors came out as you walked.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 9:07 am
Mamie, I agree about Vincent's hair. He strikes me as the love child of Elton John and Keith Richards. The idea that he pulled out his 401(k) to do this scares me, though. That is so risky, even for the sanest of people.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 10:44 am
LOL
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 10:49 am
I liked Keith & Bradley's dress the best. It was gorgeous! But I don't know how well it would have looked on Miss USA, with her big hair and all. Kayne & Robert's winning design was stunning too. I don't like poufiness and so had some misgivings about the skirt when I saw them showing it to Tim. But on the runway, it really did look fantastic - especially that jewelled halter. Think the model deserves some of the credit - she really showed it off. Kayne definitely had an advantage this challenge but I'm sure it was set up well in advance of him making the show so I'm not suggesting there was anything unfair about it. Now if Robert had been around for the Barbie challenge, that'd be a different story, lol. Uli & Bonnie's gown was pretty too, although it wasn't quite what I was expecting from Uli's sketch & chat with Miss USA. I thought there'd be more light floaty layers with a few more subtlely complementary color variations. But maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention, lol. This was the one with the deep back, wasn't it? That was very nice. While I think they're both great, for this challenge, I didn't care for Laura & Michael's dress that much. Not my style, that's all. And even though it was probably a different shade, it looked pretty white to me and I thought Miss USA specifically said not to use white? Jeffrey and Alison's was a bit messy but at least it was different. I guess that sort of patchwork of fabrics is something he likes? Which leaves the gruesome twosome of this week's designs. Malan & Katherine's really was a disaster. But I think they deserve some credit for all the work that must have went into the top part (even though it didn't come out well at all). But hey, complete disasters have triumphed over merely dull designs before. And was Vincent's dress ever dull. So boring and basic (save for the unflattering shoulder caplets). I didn't like watching either Angela or Vincent last night. She didn't bother to draw and so was unprepared for the client chat plus she kept bothering Kayne during the sketching session. Very unprofessional and annoying. She apparently didn't do much work either, although that was due to Vincent. As for him, "team leader" doesn't just mean you're in charge, it means you have a team too. To be fair though, he probably was concerned Angela didn't have the skills to do a good job. But he didn't do a good job at all of managing this challenge. They had a double elimination last year and I gotta say I wouldn't have been sorry to see these two booted after this challenge. I guessed Malan would likely be out because of the "this season on PR" clip of Jeffrey yelling at Angela plus the one of her gasping during Tim's announcement. And I figured they were going to keep Vincent no matter what so the end was a bit anticlimatic. I don't know whether it was an act or not but I did feel sorry for Malan and think he probably would have been a stronger and more interesting competitor than either Angela or Vincent (whom I had been pulling for during the tryouts) in the long run. Not sure if that's saying much but, still. But his dress was pretty awful so I really can't say it was the wrong decision.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 11:29 am
Ya gotta read Tim's blog and listen to his podcast about this episode...
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 11:34 am
Yes, Tims podcast, especially. It fleshes out the Angela/Vincent drama fully. His blog is more of a summary this week.
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 12:49 pm
I really felt badly for Malan. Last week, I couldn't wait for him to be booted, but this week, he seemed a lot more genuine, and a bit less unpretentious. Maybe it's just the way he looks that gives him that air? He so looks like a smarmy, pompous weasel, but now I don't think he is at all. And surely there would have been more drama with him. The fact that he owned up to his mistake should have kept him in the competition. Although, I did agree with Angela, as far as Vincent not letting her do things, Vincent is clearly a person who gets unnerved easily. Her approach was horrible, and I didn't like the way she tried to sail with Kayne. I liked the pairing of Kayne and Robert. Could they be this year's Andre and Santino? And who will be this year's Shetangy?
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Carrie92
Member
09-15-2003
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 1:04 pm
Is there a way to listen to a podcast online?
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Calamity
Member
10-18-2001
| Thursday, July 20, 2006 - 1:20 pm
I don't know, Carrie92. You can find it at the PR site but I have to confess I've never tried to listen to a podcast. I gather it's a file you download? And what do you use to play it then? (Showing what a computer dunce I am...)
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