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Dee
Member
08-08-2000
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:14 pm
Eeyore and Lurk - thanks very much for sharing your celebrity experiences. It's fascinating to get a glimpse of that world.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:35 pm
Lurk, I agree with your idea that they should give them tasks that better reflect the work they'll be doing if hired. I'd even be happy if they'd just bring back the interview process they used to use to take the final four down to two (rather than just firing both members of the last losing team). I'd really like it if they held interviews in the first round to immediately eliminate the ones who may otherwise slip under the radar and outlast their superiors. It's funny that I felt Lee should've been fired after the first few weeks of the season, and yet in this finale I was a little disappointed when he lost. I have to give him credit for really working at this task, and fighting to overcome having Lenny on his team (poor choice, but how disloyal it would've looked to pass him over at this point) not to mention the tough Leary lady. I was turned off by Sean's comment about how losing Andrea meant he'd have to actually roll up his sleeves and work along with his team. I was even more turned off by his need to get his hair sprayed for luck when he should've been with the rest of his team making sure every last minute detail was taken care of, like posting some Pontiac signs. Had they not donated those cars people may have never known they were sponsoring the event. Interesting that this was never brought up afterward. I can't help but wonder who Trump would've hired if he'd been making the decision by himself instead of consulting public opinion.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:51 pm
Okay, I wasn't paying 100% attention when Sean was hired, but did he sort of leave Tammy hanging there? She looked kind of lost when I looked at the screen, but I'm not sure if I missed him hugging her or not. I'm glad he won. Guess I'll have to watch Today in the morning to see what he says about Tammy now that he's got the job.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:52 pm
I just want to say DITTO to Curlyq's 2nd paragraph ~ it's everything I wanted to say.
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Sunrvrose
Member
08-13-2001
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:06 pm
Max, about the first thing he did was run to Tammy and give her a huge hug. Then, he had to run thru the studio, into the street and get into the car to satisfy the Pontiac requirement. I also saw Tammy appearing at loose ends after he ran out of the studio, but that's what he had to do, part of the deal.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:11 pm
Oh, good. Thanks, Sunrvrose! I wasn't fully paying attention and missed him hugging her. 
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:23 pm
FWIW Lurk - I NEVER read your post thinking you were name dropping, and I'm *hoping* nobody thought I was either. Gosh, they aren't even MY artists. LOL
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:30 pm
I'm happy with the choice and think it was the clear choice. And Kudos for Carolyn for having an opinion!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Monday, June 05, 2006 - 10:34 pm
That was strange about no signage for Pontiac but they used the jumbotron instead. Sean certainly handled greeting Trump AND incorporating him into the event SO much better than did Lee. I'm sure the little detail that the auction winners got to sit with Trump, resulted in higher amounts. I LOVED seeing George dancing with (I assume) one of the auction winners! I continue to be <impressed > with how well-spoken and mature Ivanka is.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 12:11 am
Eeyore lol I wasn't much worried bout you or any of us old TVCHr's here lolol. Love me or hate me you all know I'm not like that LOL. Just didn't want to give some of the newer folks or lurker the wrong idea (so if someone is gonna dislike me it can be for the usual reasons here--general misunderstandings, lies or liking different tv folks ;) ) Oh got an interesting but short email reply for some show info. Gonna touch base by phone tomorrow and will see what all I can find out that I can share. But if I understood things right I may owe the shrew an apology lolol. Oh and Sea, not sure what you continue to be with Ivanka but I'd guess impressed by you tone eh? If so, look at not only her education but both parents. Her Mom is one shrewd businesswomen so I truthfully am not surprise. What did surprise me about her and her brother is how well grounded they are. By all rights they easily could have been Paris Hilton types, but they are on the total opposite end of that spectrum, thank goodness. Bravo to them, and how they were raised.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 5:27 am
I'll bet you if Sean had of asked one of the BNL to wear a Panda suit they would have, those are some real down to earth guys. (althought I thought it was a silly idea) For a 90 minute show I didn't really feel like we saw a lot of the prep work that anyone did for the shows. All in all I was happy to see Sean win and think he will be an asset. These big promo tasks strike me as a way for Trump to see how they handle a project and manage people on a larger scale.
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Lauram
Member
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 7:17 am
I agree that I really didn't get a feel for what work they did to put on the events...and as for Sean making sure his hair looked right. That didn't bother me. and I am sure that Trump does the same I wonder what will become of Sean and Tammy
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 7:36 am
I also thought just from clips alone Sean was the leader - I thought they had to work hard to show him "failing" for it to appear "close"... I thought they were very kind to Lee, if it had been close, dont you think Carolyn would've lambasted him for his treatment of the celebs? I think the whole thing ran mostly by itself - those that play those games it is routine.... but I will say Lee has lots of charisma and is a likeable guy!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 7:43 am
and I just read your post from the other page Lurk concerning your hockey event - and I'd have to agree with you - I've helped with charity events, including a Hockey game (old timers BlackHawks vs the charity players) and there's something special about hockey players - I will also "date" mayself, and drop the name, Stan Mikita - because he doesnt wear a helmet at the charity event, until he got koshed on the noggin, and then would wear one loosely, loved hearing those old timers talk about their days - and I dont think any of them had their own teeth!! Anyway - what Lurk said! *g
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 9:19 am
I have no doubt that Sean will be successful in the Trump organization. He just strikes me as one of the smarmy yes men that the Donald looks for.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:00 am
I came in late to the show series and only saw the last few episodes. what happened to the girl who was coughing up blood. Is Sean truly in love with that girl? she, him?
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 10:27 am
Texannie, she said she burst a blood vessel I believe in her sinuses. They showed the MD saying not to worry unless it keeps happening, then come back for more tests etc. But she seemed OK. Trump put Sean on the spot and he said he was gonna marry Tammy, but it was hard to tell if he just said that cause Trump asked him that point blank on live TV or what. I never felt it was real but SHRUG who knows stranger things have happened. I never would have pictured Rob and Amber together but at least with them we really saw love. Mercifully I don't see a TV special about this one though. Ladytex, big AMEN to your post. You nailed it pefectly I think. I think Lee has gobs of raw potential and needs someone to polish his edges. I hoped he would gain some of that from the show, but sadly I don't think he did. He needs to stop being mentored by the Lennie's of the worlds IMHO and learn a little more of how to behave professionally. Don't get me wrong, I think Lenny could actually be a true friend to him, but for love of everything Lee needs to not follow his business style lol. BTW thank goodness Lenny was dealing with hockey player celebs because otherwise it would have been a total nightmare. Reader!!!!!!! How good to see it...was getting truly worried bout you. Delighted you didn't fall off the earth hun. Be in touch one of these days eh? And must say it was kinda bittersweet for me cause beyond what I posted in my excitement when watching I saw a few other of the older guys I worked with and make me nostalgic for when I actually liked folks I worked with, had a blast when doing it etc. BTW I should have a pretty interesing post later just am finding out what I can and can't say here 
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 1:04 pm
Thanks Lurk!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 1:21 pm
Thanks for all the insider stuff Lurk. It is very interesting!
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 2:07 pm
I have enjoyed reading everybody's post, thank ya'll. I'm going to have to vote Lenny as biggest pest of the season, 2nd place goes to Brent. I agree with the Donald about Lenny's answer last night, bad answer. I loved it when Jamie Presley said to Lenny, get it together little apprentice boy, or something like that. LOL!
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 2:33 pm
Personally I wasn't really impressed with Lee or Sean during the early episodes of the Apprentice. But I thought they both did a phenomenal job with their final tasks. It amazes me that Lee is only 22 years old. My son is 23 and I am truly happy and proud that he has a job and a house and a car! As I was watching the finale last night it occurred to me that I could never, never, never, ever complete any of the tasks that these contestants have on the Apprentice (except for maybe the lemonade task on Apprentice 1). Big Brother, I think, I could possibly manage.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-30-2004
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 2:38 pm
Thanks from me too, especially behind the scenes info! I had to laugh about some of the comments. Back in 69, my first real job after HS, I worked for the Arizona State Industrial Insurance commission that pays for on-the-job injuries - as a lowly little File Clerk. At the time the type of worker with the MOST injuries were the Hockey Players (have no idea what teams since I'm not into sports). One player could have 10-12 injuries ongoing & running simultaneously with no time lost from the job. There were scads of missing files from all sorts of worker claims, especially the ones with no time off, and claims couldn't be handled or bills paid without the files/records. I had a knack for remembering Claim Numbers and decided to make the job less boring by 'playing detective'. Started pulling up ALL the files ongoing for the same person, especially those hockey players. One tooth lost in this game and another tooth lost in a different game = different injury claims. What happened was that in a great many cases the front of one file was stapled to the backside of a different job injury file. I found hundreds of their missing files. After just a few months on the job I came down with Mononucleosis, hadn't even finished my 6 mos. probation and had to be off work for a month or two. Normally they would have simply let me go. But the No-Time-Lost folks demanded that they hold my position and bring me back. Even got a better work situation/promotion when I got back. Since then I've always had a fond thought for all those Hockey Players and the job security they provided me! hehehe!
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Biscottiii
Member
05-30-2004
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:00 pm
I thought, at the final point when Trump was asking Lee and Sean why THEY deserved to be the Apprentice, that Lee seemed more subdued than he normally was in the BR. Sean clearly was able to talk more maturely and sophisticatedly, almost running circles around Lee. (Wondered if that comment from Ivanka at the dinner prize where she said something like Trump didn't like people who talked too much, might have played into this.) But I'm pleased that Sean won. Lee does have rough edges that time & experience will help to polish. But sometimes, being catapulted to the top too early, with the $XXX,000 job, can perhaps stunt one's growth and expectations in the working world, IMO. Did I miss something here? After the charity events, did they ever even declare the winner vs. loser event? Or did it seem like they just dropped the whole subject and headed for the boardroom? I need to rewatch my recording, but thought perhaps someone spotted something I can look for. Thx
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Llkoolaid
Member
08-01-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:12 pm
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I thought the show was tonight and missed it all.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, June 06, 2006 - 3:30 pm
Ok Kids...what an interesting turn things took for me last night when I started seeing a slew of folks I knew on the show last night. Here I thought I was just enjoying my reality addiction hehe. As you'll recall, last nite I agreed to see what I could find out and maybe share some interesting tidbits. Truthfully I thought I might hear stuff like how rude Lenny was and maybe if Lee said something to especially tick off the <79> woman to get her that way etc. Now, my friends, let me OFFICIALLY for public record say I wasn't able to find out a thing . But knowing how good my pals here are at reading between the lines, after a few most interesting emails and calls that have kept me amused today, let me just say I recently had a few brand new personal thoughts on the show that I thought I would share . All of which, of course, are just things that are MY personal, out of the blue, opinions that just came to mind today Now, I was pondering how a charity who focuses on a few major events might feel if they were approached to be one of two featured charities and convinced to turn over many of the very successful ways they have ran things in the past to a TV show and I would guess assured it would be bigger than ever, over the top and just amazing PR for them. Then I was thinking about a few things I didn't see last night. I must have missed them talking with Dennis Leary, the Foundation founder, who not only is a well known comedian but who has a TV show on the air. Kinda odd I thought isn't it? Then I recalled Lee mentioning the "shirts of their backs" auction idea but realized we didn't see any auction, and there was no mention of us being able to bid it in that I recall. How funny that if you visit the http://www.learyfirefighters.org/ web site there is a link to this current online auction at http://www.charityfolks.com/06_05_26_LLF2.asp. I truly feel had this been mentioned, promoted on air there might be MUCH more bidding. I certainly didn't know about it. Though honestly I feel some of the items have a rather high opening bid. Anyway, it made me wonder how a group that had had great success raising MUCH needed funds for Firefighters and giving that community many resources that will help train them to save lives, would feel if they alter how they usually do things, were told they would be spotlighted, and then very little of that spotlight shining on them. After thinking about it, I failed to see a whole lot done that seemed to really help them, beyond a donation of 2 cars. I do, however, recall seeing Pontiac, a corporate sponsor of both events last night featured over and over and over, with repeated signs, seeing the car more times than I could count and hearing it discussed in detail a great many times and even ended with the winner driving off in one. They sure did an awesome job promoting that eh? Pontiac sure got their monies worth for what they donated. I can only hope that some additional funds might have been donated to help make up some of this disparity, although I wonder if it would be comparable to what they could have raised without the show? Now as for Lys, who I was quite harsh on, I also pondered how frustrating it must be to be the head of the foundation, be told if they went a different way than usual large funds would be raised, and then see my group take a virtual backseat at all times then when it served the purpose of the TV show? That is, of course, just how it came across to me after rethinking it. I wondered if maybe I should look at her that way, not just as someone being very harsh. I also thought I'd compare what type of events she has run and what they brought in. It dawned on me that this info would most likely be on their website and waddayaknow it is. Here is what she did last year in NY at the 5th annual Bash for NY's Bravest; "The evening also featured extraordinary live and silent auction items, including a walk on the red carpet with Tom Cruise at the premiere of Mission Impossible:3; four tickets to see the Rolling Stones perform in Los Angeles, including transportation aboard a private jet; a speaking role on the hit FX series "Rescue Me"; and the opportunity to train with celebrity stunt coordinator Danny Aiello III." And this was info from the same event a year earlier; "On Monday, November 8, 2004, The Leary Firefighters Foundation held its 4th Annual BASH for New York's Bravest. A capacity crowd gathered at downtown hot-spot Capitale to honor the men and women of the FDNY and to help launch a multi-year campaign to build a new high-rise simulator at the fire department's Randall's Island Training Facility. The event raised a record $600,000. Co-hosts Denis Leary and Carson Daly were joined on-stage by longtime supporter Steve Buscemi to introduce a stirring video tribute to firefighters lost in the line of duty in both New York City and Worcester, Massachusetts." The stage was then turned over to guest auctioneer Lenny Clarke who kept the audience in hysterics all night long while still managing to take care of the business at hand. Items up for bid included an all-access VIP ticket package to the 2005 ESPY Awards in Hollywood, a speaking role on the hit FX series "Rescue Me"; 4 tickets to Super Bowl XXXIX including transportation on a private Lear jet; and the opportunity to play hockey against Denis Leary, Cam Neely and Pat LaFontaine in Denis’ backyard, a prize which fetched a whopping $100,000!!! The evening was capped off with a special performance by Blues legend Bo Diddley. SOOOOO after reading all this I thought HMMMMM did last night's event blow those previous events out of the water and raise SO much more money than they could have done on their own? I also wondered how courteous the Apprentice production crew was to all those involved at the event and if they provided everything they said they would. And it did seem to me that they held this in a much smaller venue than usual, yet didn't seem to have anywhere near the crowd they had at all the other things they did. Rather strange no? And another thing I realized is that Sean's event for a different charity had various facets to it, with different items being promoted so that likely brought in more money too. I'd be very curious to know how much $$ each event raised. They never did tell us did they? Although I heard a rumour that the concert was Taj employees versus paid tickets so not sure exactly what was up with that, but I'm mostly trying to figure out this event lol. Well this post is wicked long (as they say in these parts) so think I'll stop at these new thoughts I've had. Hope they are interesting, and I didn't bore anyone too much with the long read. And if anything else just pops into my head I might post more later

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