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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I think that Stefani is a respectable choice for Trump. She performed consistently throughout the entire process and she is extremely coherent and well spoken and she appears to have a strong background.

Having said that, tell me that I heard wrong. Did Heidi and Kristine pick Stefani because James is not a strong woman? If James had only known that was one of the criteria for success as an Apprentice, he could have done something about that.

Biginjapan
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07-23-2005

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biginjapan a private message Print Post    
Loved the Sanjaya shout out...and Trumped hated it.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Trump said something James said bothered him. Is this the last season?

Cpmfinster
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08-15-2005

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 9:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cpmfinster a private message Print Post    
When talking to James, Trump said:

"...but there were certain things and certain dialogue that you gave during the course, you know what I'm taking about, you're an outstanding guy, I really think you're gonna be a big success, but, for now, Stephanie...you're hired"

Any ideas what "dialogue" Trump is referring to?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm very curious about that as well.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
I imagine it was something we did not get to see, but I have to say it always seemed to me that James had a bit of a loose and nasty tongue.

Trump looked sad at the end of the show - I think he felt very bad about firing him.

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
The only thing I can think of that they showed us was when Don Jr. dissed James on saying in the board room that he was against the decisions that caused Arrow to lose a challenge. Very vague recollection, but something like you are one of those guys who tries to say he was against it to look better than the rest of the group. Did he do that more than once?

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
Also...if you stuck a beard on Don Jr. couldn't he play the caveman in the GEICO commercial???

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Cathie, good memory. Yes, that was the beef agains James earlier in the competition, that he always laid back and criticized something about the task so that if they lost he could say in the boardroom that he had been against that decision, and they lost because of it. He got called on it in one of the boardrooms. Thereafter, the editing did not show him doing it.

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Oh that's right! Well, if that is what Trump was referring to, I wish he would have made that clear. It is kind of bogus to be evasive about the reason for the final firing after millions of people invested a chunk of their lives into following this show.

Drifter83204
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02-22-2005

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Drifter83204 a private message Print Post    
I'm glad Stefani won too. It seemed to me she was Ivanka and Don's choice because she has a classy demeanor like they seem to have and will be a better "fit" with them...if they really are becoming a part of Trump's management for the future.

I also hardly recognized her. I like her look better when she was shown driving her convertible
...straight hair!

Congrats to Costacat. You called the winner first, I think. Sharp eye!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, April 22, 2007 - 11:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
James ruined his chances by being so gungho when he was PM.

That boardroom involved lots of defensive shouting and DT would have remembered it. Stephani, on the other hand, rarely spoke.

Personally, I thought DT had his eye on her since the Swimsuit Challenge. Didnt she model a suit? Trump was in the audience gawking.

Yeah, Nicole did as well but she didnt have the build that Stefani has.

I thought Heidi was earmarked as winner but she melted down.

Anyone else think Frank looked like he'd been crying when DT asked him who he thought should win? It was just uncomfortable LOL

(c)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 12:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Nice to see the one of the four who isn't a shouter, come up on top.

The criticism that she didn't step up, well, his format this season meant there were fewer able to step up!

Sharinia
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09-07-2002

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 5:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sharinia a private message Print Post    
Agreed Sea - this shows why the new format doesn't make much sense.

I almost had to laugh when Ivanka asked Stefani, a trial attorney in complex litigation in a very male dominated niche, if she was 'afraid' to step up.

It also doesn't make sense that there would be any debate as to who is more qualified to oversee one of Trump's development projects, someone with substantial legal and business experience in construction or someone with a background in technology.

But this is the land of 'reality' tv of course

I know for a fact btw that not all of these winners actually manage the project featured in the finale. My sis is in commercial real estate and has worked closely with Kendra.... she tells me that all K really did for Trump in actuality was renovate his mansion in FL, and get some training from Carolyn while still running her own business.

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 5:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
Good point, Sea.

Trump didn't seem to have any hesitation in getting rid of Frank or Nicole. Based on the reasons he gave why didn't they go long ago? I think he lost interest in the show/group about halfway through and was just going through the motions.

Looks like this was the last season for sure--no ads for the next season or enticements to apply to be the next apprentice. Maybe the Donald is oversupplied with apprenti...

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 5:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
While Trump was talking about his Atlanta Towers project, he said the condos are "scheduled to be sold out." Does that truly mean something or is it Trump talk?

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 5:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
Sounds like Trump Talk to me!

That pursed-lip thing he does that I guess is supposed to make him look more authoritative. Seems like he really did over do it a lot this season. Usually he just looked miserable and pissed off. Of course, maybe he was. LOL. At any rate, last night it kinda made him look miserable, pissed off and constipated!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 6:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Stefani really did shine in the final boardroom. And James still continued to shout, even thru his "personal" video with his family. And I found it interesting that Stefani chose to focus on her business strengths while James chose to show his family. (Yes, family is important, but this was a "job interview," and your family has no place in it. James should've concentrated on why he'd be an asset to Trump. Stefani did.)

It's bugging me though... Stefani looked completely different. I can't imagine it was just the color and style of her hair. What was it? Was her face slightly plumper? She totally looked like a different person. Of course, I'm sure they were styled and made up for the finale, so maybe that's it.

Frank's and Nicole's firing first was well deserved. Nicole never really did step up, and Frank sat there and tried to take total responsibility for the "movie." Which, btw, now that I saw it again, really was disjointed. Nicole's "if we'd had 30 more seconds" excuse was pure b-s. They knew the parameters going in to the task.

Surya's response to Trump's question as to whom he'd hire was ridiculous. And Trump's response was priceless ("brilliant" in a derogatory tone).

I'm curious about Trump's statement to James about things he's said. I dunno if it has to do with the CYA stunt(s) he pulled, or if he said something "off" in one of the boardrooms that I don't remember. Trump has a long memory and holds a grudge, so it's possible James made an offhand comment somewhere along the line that we all sorta dismissed, but Trump remembered it. I don't have the episode where Trump called James on the CYA stuff. It'd be interesting to see what was said in that BR again. And it'll be interesting to see what James has to say about it, since you KNOW he's gonna be asked that during post-show interviews.

Interestingly, looks like Stefani didn't win a car, as past winners did. Maybe the car sponsor decided they no longer wanted to be part of the show?

At any rate, I'm happy with the outcome. For a blase season filled with ridiculous (jumping the shark) twists, she was the best candidate at the end. She definitely is most polished and most experienced, and I do think she'll fit in well in Trump's organization. I wish her well.

(Still, it's amazing to me. Someone with so much success already decides to go on a reality show to become an apprentice to Trump? WTH??????)

Jandy
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07-08-2005

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
did anyone notice Donald, Jr's hands. they are very feminine

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Angelicfairies2 a private message Print Post    
Yeah stephanie is taking a massive pay cut to work with trump. $50,000 start salary I think I heard?? OUCH

Jandy
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07-08-2005

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jandy a private message Print Post    
very nice article here:
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/people/features/10610/

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
Trump said last night the salary is $250,000.

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
Trumps comments about millions of people applied, all I could think of was and this was the cast you picked? I had to laugh at the end when Trump was sitting there with a kid standing on each side like he was the godfather or something. Not my favourite season but I couldn't look away. Hopefully if there is another season he goes back to the old format and ignores any canoodling.

(Sunshyne - I believe it was Nicole who modelled a suit)

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
I am not so certain that I agreed with Trump on his rationalle for firing Nicole...He believes in love but not love in the workplace. Well had it not been for the producers showing footage of Tim and Nicole at home in the hot tub, or Donald's constant questioning of their relationship, I don't think that I would have thought there was anything between Tim and Nicole. If he wants to criticize her based on her performance on the tasks...all is fair, but to fire her because she has a love interest seems wrong. (and I think that was Tim's point at his firing)

So was Donald in fact saying that his employees should have no outside relationships, no spouse, no children...because all of these relationships would come before the Trump-employee relationship of which he believes he should be #1.

I don't know...fire her on merit, not on the basis of an outside relationship

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, April 23, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I actually understand the rationale behind his firing of Nicole. If she's gonna become involved with a fellow contestant during a job interview process, then what would stop her from becoming involved with a co-worker. Besides the legalities of it (and I'm sure the Trump organization has specific procedures about interoffice relationships), there's the distraction of being involved with a co-worker. Both during the relationship and after.

The two of them (Tim and Nicole) made more of it than they needed to, also. Really, there was a point when Trump was practically grilling Nicole about her relationship with Tim, and she just sat there, turned red, and answered his questions. At some point I was thinking that I'd have said it's a personal relationship and not appropriate for discussion in a boardroom.

Trump was NOT saying have outside relationships was an issue. Trump was saying having relationships with people you work with was an issue. As it is in most organizations. Nicole's relationship with Tim was not an outside relationship. It was an interoffice relationship.

Also, Tim stating last night that he thought Nicole would make the best apprentice was laughable. Seriously? Based on what? The fact that you wanna boink her? Where did she really show that she was the best qualified? Nicole was lucky she ended up with a group that took her along with them (and who really had their claws out for all other members of their team).

I really wish Trump would get his numbers straight though. This is the second time he's said "millionS of people applied" followed soon thereafter by "over a million applied." Um, seems to me, there's a bit of a difference between million and millions!

And really, this was the best of the applicants? Granted, you could probably throw out over half the applicants as completely unqualified. Then throw out the half of the remainder as being media hounds, wanting only to be on TV. If you had a million to start with, that still leaves 250,000 applicants. Seriously. This was the best he could do?