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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 5:12 pm
If it matters to anyone, Randall did later state that he thought Trump was asking him to share his title and have two Apprentices, and that Trump later confirmed this to be the case. He was not asking if Rebecca should be hired as a run-of-the-mill employee, but as another Apprentice. Remember the moment. All the other candidates were right there, some of whom were more qualified than Rebecca (much better records). Trump himself had expressed how impressed he was with Alla in at least one interview that I can remember. Now having those people right there, several of whom were shaking their heads furiously in outrage, and having had to put up with Rebecca slamming him in previous board meetings, why on earth would Randall have said yes? How funny it would have been if he'd said "If you really want a second apprentice, I recommend Alla." I don't know why Trump would still be whining about this, when he just fired a guy for entertaining the idea of sharing cheerleaders with his opponents. Babyjaxmom, I apologize if my comment offended you. Of course, I don't see the Leary charity as literally standing on street corners in rags and holding out tin cups. My point was simply that normally any charity, I don't care how big or how illustrious or how important, would or should turn their nose up at an opportunity to be given money for their cause. They usually are grateful to get anything from anyone who wishes to give, assuming it wasn't raised through some illegal or scandalous means. Saying no to a bachelor auction is understandable, but showing a little faith and a cooperative spirit (not to mention a smidgen of gratitude) might go a long way toward inspiring greater ideas. This representative has caused Lee to worry that the organization might pull out, which means her attitude has created the illusion that the charity doesn't really need the money and they were just doing Lee a favor. I don't really think that this woman is personally threatened, or anything like that. I'm leaning toward some producer telling her to be tough on Lee and really push him, and perhaps she's taking it over the top due to lack of television experience.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 5:33 pm
No prob, Curlyq, I wasn't really offended. I just see the point of the Director of America's Bravest. They have a reputation to uphold, and she doesn't want the firefighters they support to be disrespected by a shoddy or cheesy fundraiser. I agree with her.
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Freetimefinally
Member
01-26-2006
| Wednesday, May 31, 2006 - 5:57 pm
I think this woman is threatened in the fact if the charity hockey game does not go over well then they will loose supporters for next years event. Even those who have been coming for years. I know one really bad time and I do not go back. I refuse to go to The Festival of Trees again after last year and I have gone many years since a young child. It is a huge event in Atlanta for a childrens hospital.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 2:46 am
Her (hockey event woman) job is on the line if this does not work, not Lee's. He is a contestant on a TV game show. She is making a mistake not to tell him what she wants, what has worked in the past and what has not. The passive agressive game she is playing is either calculated or she is not good at doing her job. Sean could set the concert hall on fire and still win. The entertaining part of the finale will be to watch production manipulate the editing to show Sean's success, no matter what happens. I also expect to see more romance with Tammy. THAT is great press. The Bachelor and Apprentice rolled into one. Eat your heart out ABC.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 6:11 am
Um guys, might I offer a slighty different viewpoint? It's a TV show! Once the events start there will be the Trumpster, TV camera's, everyone there will be primed about how they are helping the Apprentice Finale etc. Add this to the fact I am CERTAIN the bones of the event are in place, since no one could come in and plan everything in a couple days. Should there be confusion it will all be behind scenes, and those there won't have a clue. This will only excite those attending not alienate them. They likely, unbeknownst to us, will probably have some off camera stuff (since I'm sure they'll have to agree to be televised etc). Attendee's will likely leave with a bag of Tshirts and assorted bonuses they ordinarily wouldn't have gotten. I don't see either event being "ruined," legitimately. Trump and Barnett wouldn't do that to charities. And remember, people are going to a charity hockey game. All the other stuff, like TV and Trump and any bonuses are just that, so no matter what happens they will be getting more than they bargained for. As for charity lady from hell, sorry but if she has been Leary's right hand man for 5 years her job is most definately not on the line over this. I would bet cash money for real that she is either 1)grandstanding for the camera's, 2)was told to make it hard and confused hard with being a total shrew, 3)has her own ego issues and is taking this opportunity to prove how indespensibile she is, or most likely of all 4)some combo of all of the above. Someone above commented that Lee should have picked her brain. He tried and she put him right down, crudely and rudely IMHO, saying it was HIS job. That is not teamwork, nor how someone so concerned about the success of an event would work. I've worked with folks I wanted to see bodily harmed they were such a pain in my rear, but we pulled together because there was a greater good on the line. Ego's often conflict when a bunch of people used to being the "boss" are all in a teamwork situation. Personally in times like that you want to tell someone to bleep bleep and go bleep. BUT if you care about the event you put it all aside and get the job done. So sorry I'm not buying most of this. And what I'm not buying most of all is how totally lopsided this is, with Sean in total control and Lee lost in left field with the event collapsing. Burnett builds suspense or misleads. Since we don't have suspense what does that leave us with?? If this was already a grand slam home run for Sean, as everyone seems to think, then what is there to watch in the finale? Sorry not buying it at all. We'll see if I'm right--good thing is no need for much debate (unless anyone wants to offer their opinion of course). But as for my being right or wrong, the answer will be clear come next week. I'm looking forward to see how I did! (couldn't find smiling girl, wasn't there one??? hmmmm) Last as I mentioned with my feeling that Sean is trying to copy Rob with the romance, since we didn't see it really build up, and given how annoying his sweetie, cookie, honey, babies have been, I just see this angle as being far more annoying as well as a distraction from his task, than it is a legit charming romance. I don't like when TV tries to manipulate me and I'm getting a whiff of that here! I see premeditated fluff not a true story and that just doesn't grab me.
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Sylvack
Member
05-31-2006
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 6:40 am
Hi all! This is my first time posting here and just wanted to give a nice Canadian HIYA to all of you! In regards to the APPRENTICE this year, I can honestly say that this is the first season, where I really could not give a rat's patootie who won. I guess when it comes down to the final two, I am really not convinced that Lee is ready and I think that he was able to fly under the radar a lot with being exempt twice for religious reasons and just being in the boardroom when someone else was a bit more vulnerable that he was. But do you all really think that Donald wants to hire a "politician". The Brit has some degree of charm to him and is entertaining to watch. Would that make him a good APPRENTICE. Time would only tell. But given that those are the two choices... I say why not? And what is up with our <79> red head, spewing blood? I realy can not stand her, but felt sorry for her Monday. But let it be noted that I think that NONE of the women this year are strong business dames. They are all catty, whinny and egotistical. NOTHING like Rebecca last year! Anyway, that is my two cents kids! merci! 
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 12:00 pm
Um, Lurk, we know it is a TV show. Of course these events are all done. It takes months of work and juggling schedules to produce a charity event of this size. They have been waiting in line with Trump to do it too. Great TV exposure.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-30-2004
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 2:54 pm
Hi and WELCOME Sylvack ! We have a great fondness for our neighbors to the north here in Seattle, WA, but I think perhaps you may be from the eastern side. Great to hear your views & hope to see you join in more discussions! Actually Folks, I'm really enjoying the discussions HERE more than the show itself, haven't seen opinion yet that I can disagree with. NOW I'm getting a tad bit excited for the finale - NOT because I think either Sean or Lee are Apprentiii material - BUT because I'm just eager to see which of these TVCH posts/views is closest to being correct and plays out in the end. Maybe it would be fun if the Trumpster says "Aww Shucks, Lee & Sean, you're BOTH fired! Let's see if we can't find someone more competent next time around!" Now THAT would be a suspenseful finale that has never been done before. ETA, actually I think part of Sean's supposedly winning appearance could end up showing whether Tammy is able to "step up to the plate" without Andrea and whether Sean is able to cover the hole in the fabric. I don't see Tammy as being able a-tall!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 5:02 pm
Lurk. The Apprentice is NOT the real world. Sean may have been thinking of Rob and Amber, but on TAR, Rob and Amber were a team. He is getting help here but the job is for one person. So, he really needs to hold off on the honey, sweetie stuff until he's won (or lost). And going with her to the caterer was clearly the low profile jog that should have been handed off to one person. Meanwhile Andrea and the other guy got the face time with important players and if they end up saying "Sean, who?" to Trump that is the kiss of death.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 5:13 pm
I hope Trump calls him out on the honey/sweetie/baby stuff. Its just so wrong. It kinda creeps me out when my sis and bil talk to each other like that when we're at a family gathering. Can't imagine what it would be like in what's supposed to be a professional work place.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 5:30 pm
I agree, Who! Not to mention that he has a team of four and she isn't the strongest one by a longshot and he needs to be attending to all of them.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 6:21 pm
Um, I know I haven't been posting a lot lately, have I lost my ability to convey what I mean?? HMMMMM. Sea, I never said any of what you seem to credit me for. I said I perceive Sean as a wannabee stealing that romance angle in a misguided attempt to make it a hot story and get publicity. And personally his sweetie, darling business has long annoyed me not only with Tammy but in general, as he just oozes that charm as his main way of doing business. I don't care for it. As I thought I posted (but am too tired/lazy to look back), in my original assessment of the 2 finalists, I felt Sean was super slick which might serve him well in a PR role but I didn't recall seeing a lot of sparks of business acumen. Conversely, although totally rough around the edges, and so young he has had no polishing, I have seen Lee have sparks of business genius. He has always looked to make something more than it was, which is quite "Trumpesque." The question I feel is the talent TOO raw right now? In a post I wrote earlier, my computer locked, and rather than make another attempt at it I took a nap lol, I agreed with, and gave a warm welcome to Syl up North!!! I don't truly care or feel connected with them this year. I guess I would rather see Lee win it because I feel that with the right polishing machine he might be a gem in the rough. Sean is too slick, someone who I see more as a hotel manager (perhaps concierge). But given the typical Apprentice role being more about handshakes than business, I could see him fitting into that better. But if Trump wants any substance I think Lee has more. And Fruit, you were the one who said that nasty woman's job was on the line if Lee messed up, so not sure how that goes with your later post saying of course it's all planned??? Well maybe it's just hard to come late to the party here. But good practice for BB! Again glad you jumped in Sylvack! Too bad your 2 cents worth cost probably about 3 or 4 here...EH? lol.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 8:11 pm
Your opinions are very welcome, Lurknomore...especially since they match my own. LOL. You gave your assessments of Sean and Lee way better than I ever could and I totally agree. I think Lee may have the edge in Trump's eyes.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-30-2004
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 8:39 pm
Heck Yeah Lurk! Like I said you gave fun reading, lots of thoughts for speculatin' I still say Fire 'em Both! Bisc
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 9:33 pm
Lurk, I didn't credit you with saying anything but you did mention "in the real world" and I'm just saying it isn't. It s a tv show and very edited. Someone else mentioned Rob and Amber; that part of my post wasn't directed at you and frankly none of it would have been but you directed at least part of your post to me. HMMM no I don't think you've lost or gained whatever ability. I just didn't agree and apparently you felt that I was incorrect. So it goes. My original post wasn't directed at anyone. ==== I don't feel connected to them this year either. It was hard to care FOR most of them this time. Sometimes it was an "about time" when someone was fired, or "how could so and so not be fired, when they slipped through one more week. I doubt if Trump is rubbing his hands with glee at his good fortune (but figure this is more about airtime for Trump, anyway.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:02 am
Babyjaxmom said Perhaps the poster who requested your banning is not familiar with your, um, unique sense of humor I have a unique sense of humor and wit....doesnt stop me from getting razzed now and again. I am always happy when I see others getting it LOL BAD ME!! *********** I enjoy reading everyone's opinions. I dont see it as one poster destroying another's view...I see it as one poster reading a post then making THEIR OWN comments LOOSELY referring to the original post. At least that is how I saw some of the discussions in the last 30 posts LOL Is this where I get to say MY RANDALL opinion?? LOL He seemed put out and inflexible, in my opinion. He won because of his workers, not any great ability. HE presented as a nice guy, until that last show. I was surprised.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 1:03 am
Am I the only one who thinks Charity Lady wasn't that bad? I thought her reactions to what Team Lee had to offer (very little -- even Lee admits he wasn't prepared) were fine. They didn't seem to have a clue to me and didn't seem interested in getting one. Team Sean's no better. He should hope Andrea's problem is only a nose bleed, because her "bossy" attitude is about the only thing keeping them on track, it seems.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:37 am
Lurk, the woman whose job would be on the line is enjoying her TV role of not helping. The fact she is not behaving as if her job were on the line is just a glaring illustration of the manipulation we all know is there. Who, MrBat and I use terms of endearment infront of our friends and family all the time as do our friends! I love that. Sean may be called to task for that not being proper in a business setting or Trump will capitolize on the romance because it serves to make the show more interesting. As we know, this is TV entertainment first.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 5:50 am
I think that using terms of endearment when you are with family and friends is fine. It may also be okay if you own a small business with a family atmosphere. However, I don't think that it is professional when you are working in a large corporation. The financial institution where I worked a few years ago had many employees that were married or related in some way. I never ever heard anyone referred to as "Honey" or "Dear" or whatever!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 5:52 am
Jimmer, honey, I think you're right.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 6:03 am
Of course, Jimmer. That is a given. Whoami mentioned that it made her uncomfortable when her sister and BIL did it at family gatherings. (in case you did not read that post, which prompted my response)
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 6:07 am
Thank you Sweetie (Julie). Yes Ms. Bat. I have no problem with it used at family gatherings.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 8:37 am
Okay, okay. I have never claimed to be sweet. My posts often seem terse without facial inflection and tone. And sometimes my facial inflection and tone are terse too. I am being playful here}
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:42 am
A chunk of my dh's friends actually call me Sweetie. I'm not sure, but I think for many months when we first got together they thought that was my name, LOL. I do know what you mean, my boss actually calls everyone (of the female persuasion)love, he is a big mucky mucky in what he does and frankly it comes off a little gag inducing imo. It's either love or Susie which makes me want to check the mirror to see if I still have pigtails. As for Sean, in the last ep I actually thought it was Tammy who called HIM baby. He has always seemed rather hands on with the ladies but I do get the feeling that he has genuine affection for Tammy.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 9:54 am
Personally, I consider all of you to be my "itty bitty sugar dumplings."
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