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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 10:25 am
I haven't been watching the show. I think I saw one or two partial eps. early on. I am enjoying reading this thread and I may even watch the finale if I can remember and am not otherwise occupied. (I used to really like this show. I don't know if it just ran its course with me or changed days or time slots or the people just weren't very interesting to me this time. Anyway...) My husband and I call each other honey sometimes, but at work with people I don't really know, I do not want to be called by such names even if they are misplaced terms of endearment. Sometimes it can come off belittling as well...even if the speaker doesn't intend it that way.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 11:25 am
Quote: I hope Trump calls him out on the honey/sweetie/baby stuff. I really can't see Trump objecting to that behavior since he does so much of it himself. I cringe every time he dismisses anyone of the female persuasion with a "Thanks, sweetheart." Argh!!! I think DT's picture is next to the definition of chauvinist in the dictionary.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, June 02, 2006 - 2:17 pm
As far as my getting the creepies with my sis and bil at a family gathering using terms of endearment....could be partly due to my not having a whole lot of respect for bil. And the tone of the terms used sometimes seems a bit put on and over-the-top to me! Now if Mr and Ms Bat talked like that in my presence, and it truly sounded genuine, I might not have a problem with it at all! In fact I might find it sort of sweet. The honey/sweetie/baby stuff on the show the other night really did need to stay out of the workplace. I almost forgot about Trump calling some of the ladies sweetheart. Ugh. OK, nevermind about the calling Sean out on it. Of course, Trump does seem to contradict himself a lot. So I wouldn't be surprised if he raked Sean over the coals for it....you know, one of those, "its ok if I do it cause I'm the big important powerful boss-man. But don't you dare let me catch you doing it!" 
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 4:50 pm
Ok, since no one has mentioned this, I guess I will be catty: did anyone not think the charity woman's outfit was AWFUL?? Dressed like she was, why would anyone take her seriously? I am totally with Lee about ignoring her or diminishing her role. (Granted, I think that Lee will probably lose the task if the editing is in any way accurate.)
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 5:34 pm
Lurk and Sea ~just want to say I enjoyed reading both your opinions on the candidates. And like Lurk, I feel like some of us are being tested before the REAL emotionally heated BB postings begin this summer. 
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 5:40 pm
It would behoove Lee to NOT dismiss anyone set up as a contact point and it didn't make any points with Carolyn when he had his little convo with the woman on his speaker phone call. As for being tested, almost always best to discuss the issues and not call out or discuss posters and if you feel the steam rising.. step away from the computer (LOL! Not saying I'm good at THAT! )but I do intend this summer to keep up with my exercise program that will get me away from home and computer for a time each day. Since I gave up piano, I won't have that Thursday night crazieness at least (and I just wasn't wanting to come up with the money for the lessons).
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 5:54 pm
LOL! So true, Sea ~ that's a chant I have to begin practicing again . . . just step away from the computer . . . just step away from the computer . . . just step away . .
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 7:13 pm
Sea I alway make a lot of plans to do AFK things during BB too...then I up all night watching BB and put it off for tomorrow hehehe. Thank goodness for wireless connections & laptops though--I am far more mobile in my house at least hehe. That step away stuff is always good advice though....I even take it sometimes. And lololol @ Kappy, though with some of our favs back at least some of us might end up agreeing more than usual like last year...go figure?! Ok back to our regularly scheduled programming tehe....Ok my Sugarplums I'm ready for the finale hehe. I do think this is the least buzz I've felt for any Apprentice every. Even when Trump co-hosted Regis and Kelly they didn't even mention it till the end, and not even for that long. Weird. And yup, I noticed that mean women lacks fashion sense as well LOL. That women sure doesn't have a lot going for her right now IMHO. Talk about not coming across well during your 15 min. Well maybe she was an Amorosa fan lol. I STILL say they made it appear so one sided that I would be STUNNED if that didn't change during the grand finale. Not saying it means he will def hire Lee, but I just think things will even up more. I did have one thought...since we didn't really see enough of Pepe to know if he is good or not, wouldn't it be a riot if he turned out to be a star who never got a chance??!! Far more interesting than watching more snuggle bunny stuff to me! BTW I have been know to call friends Hun and similar endearments, and think it's ok w/the right people (NOT strangers!). But I certainly wouldn't do it in business nor on TV, let alone the 2 combined!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 7:14 pm
Gave up piano??? Don'tcha' know that piano practicing increases your typing time -- which in turn makes you a more efficient poster, thus allowing you to post just as much in the shorter time frame you've established for yourself. Believe me -- after playing piano for 32 years, my fingers can fly! ETA: Hmmm -- I was grading papers while "watching" Apprentice -- what did the lady's outfit look like?? You've piqued my curiosity!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 7:39 pm
The sweetie, hon thing is annoying. I have a couple clients from the U.K. and they are are always calling me darling and sweetheart. I swoon a bit...LOL...It doesn't take much. But on out of Trumps mouth and Sean's, well not too much swooning.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 8:06 pm
Teach, lol.. I've been using keyboards for so many years.. and I was enjoying the piano but I was paying and then not practicing much and not really liking the time that the lessons took place. I did pretty darned well last summer, going to Curves I think mostly 5 days a week. This summer I have Longevity Stick twice a week at 9am and circuit training daily at 11am and hope to fit Curves in between and probably will be home before half the HG wake up, at least that's the plan. Won't have knitting class but will keep my fingers busy with that, too. And at least, soon, another Apprentice will be history and we can start forgetting them, too.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 8:14 pm
I'm not bothered by the hon thing really. If a man wants to hold open a door for me and call me 'sweetheart' or whatever, I just take it as a nice little thing. I don't feel it diminishes women because I know that's not the intent. It's very obvious that both Trump and Sean have tremendous respect for women professionally.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, June 03, 2006 - 11:55 pm
Seamonkey, What do you mean bynot call out other posters? I see people posting names all the time. Is a 'Call Out' a challenge? I always thought 'Calling someone out' is catching someone saying something which can be proved false and correcting them by links (or Live feeds) Maybe my definition is different that the Moderator version. Plz let me know. Thx for the clarification.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:51 am
A call out is a call out. Using a name may or may not be a call out. Personally when opinions are involved, they are just that, opinions and even eye-witnesses to an even will often see things differently and no one of them is "correct" and I have to wonder when a discussion of a tv show turns into a debate with citations and evidence, but even in a debate, there isn't a right or wrong, just the winner who is more convincing. But hopefully Big Brother is about happenings, results and opinions and doesn't require that sort of "calling out" because that can often also be baiting of other posters.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 9:00 am
Sea, I think you're wrong about that. Babyjax ducks before Sea can throw something at her . . .
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 9:04 am
Buggles, I don't mind a little courtesy (such as a man holding a door for me, I do it for others, too), but using an endearment to someone who works for you is demeaning. Can you picture a woman ever calling her (male) boss "sweetheart" or "honey"? It's just not appropriate and is patronizing. I'll accept it from a much older man, cause I figure it's a generational thing, but from someone my own age or slightly older, it's not professional in a business setting.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 9:43 am
Getting back to the finale for a moment, sweethearts. A lot of us are disappointed in this Apprentice and see the finalists as lack luster and Trump being faced with choosing the lesser of two duds. I disagree. I like Sean. Below are their resumes. Sean, 33, born and raised in London now works as a director of business development for a recruitment consultancy registered on the London Stock Exchange, where he boasts the title of the top-ranking sales person globally at his firm. He graduated from the Southhampton Solent University with first class honors - the highest-degree grade in the British education system. Quickly snapped up by an international recruitment consultancy, Sean spent nine years brokering multimillion dollar deals with Fortune 500 companies in over 20 global locations. He earned the EB1 Green Card for "persons of extraordinary ability" in 2005. Sean resides in Miami. At 22 I have to question how much Lee could have accomplished. Your brain is not even fully developed until 23 and many are still growing. I question a lot here, expecially teaching 4th grade. A classroom aide, perhaps. This smacks of a trumped up resume if I ever saw one. He has had one year since finishing college. Lee, 22, graduated from Cornell University with a 4.0 GPA, where he received a B.S. in Policy Analysis and Management. While attending Cornell University, he won business plan writing and marketing competitions, and served as a teaching assistant for courses in Entrepreneurship and Management. He worked for Merrill Lynch, researching emerging markets, creating portfolios and compiling business plans for high net worth clients, including an investment banking deal with an estimated value in excess of $100 million. Previous experiences outside of corporate America include, working at a day treatment program for the mentally ill, volunteering at soup kitchens and teaching fourth grade children in an inner-city school.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 9:46 am
I'll say one thing too my hunny bunnies ...I think the nature of the business come into play, as does the cammoradorie. Over the years, even though I work for myself most of the time, I have focused on specific industries, primarily pro sports and entertainment. In both people are very laid back and in hindesight I see how if any walked in to many of the most of the meetings I had in the fields they would be horrified at much of the language, both what people called each other and a lot of what was said. But amazingly all got done with far less fights, less BS and tons less, well guess what would be deemed "professionalism." But there was almost always respect and none of the language was done in a mean spirited way. (You have not lived until you stood between benches at Madison Sq. Garden and heard that language nuff said). But my point is we also aren't taking into account that many industries answer to a different drummer. That said still don't see it belonging either on a TV job show or a Trump org. (BTW I'm on a self imposed "tehe or hehe" ban for the next few posts...I should be hit for overuse in my last post so I will make ammends but avoiding it for a least a bit )
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 11:05 am
Here, I park with a sprained ankle. This could have happened on a weekday when everyone was at "work". But ohhhhhhhh no, I sit like a puppy at the screen door waiting for someone to show up.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 3:29 pm
The lady was wearing a skirt with a blouse tucked in...nothing out of the ordinary except that the way she wore it was not flattering at all to her shape and size. I know a thing or two about the EB-1 preference and can tell you that you have to be very "special" in order to obtain one from US Citizenship and Immigration Services. Sean, to me, has not come across very impressive...probably because of his little love fest situation with Tammy. However, since he did qualify for permanent residency based on the EB-1 category, I'd have to say that I have some new found "respect" for him.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 4:56 pm
BJM I do see your point. Maybe we oughta start calling the guys at work 'hon' But really, I don't think that most men intend anything negative by it. I give younger guys a pass too cause maybe they were still raised a certain way, or who knows. Some I am sure are just trying to be charming or flattering, or are just goofing around. During my first year of college, we had these really good looking Australian guys working in our dorm cafeteria, and they all called us 'love' as they were serving us. Don't think anyone there minded Even if it's some gross guy, it's just not something I can get my undies in a wad over. Ok, so who here is gonna be the first to call me darling?? 
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 5:53 pm
Thanks for the description, Rehtse. Guess I'll have to literally WATCH tomorrow night and see if they show her on the rerun. Funny, isn't it, how the exact same clothes on two different people (even the same size people) can look completely different. Darlin, Buggles, avoiding panty wads is a very admirable trait! 
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 10:30 pm
lol sweetie 
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