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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 12:59 pm
Laneesmom we just moved back to Iowa - born and raised here - and I can also atest to the fact that THIS IS NOT TYPICAL IOWA!!!!
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:30 pm
the farm family were some of the strangest folks I've ever seen in my life. I have to wander how they think their life style is superior to most when folks live a heck of alot longer now than they did back in the really olden bacteria laiden days. Oh well, to each their own & these folks will probably always have each other because seriously do you think there are many others like them out there?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 20, 2007 - 3:57 pm
I've never seen this show before, but caught the tail end last night for the first time (the last half hour). Um, do they usually pick two wives who are so completely and utterly opposite? And the raw food family? Really, could they be any more out there? Although, as soon as I saw them ordering food off a menu, I just knew the next scenes would be gastro distress! There is some sound reasoning for raw food diets. However, I have to say that -- vegetarian or not -- there is no way I'd eat raw chicken! Eeeww! (And yeah, I used to eat raw fish and yeah, there is a difference, so there!)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:07 am
okay you guys. I am from a farm. Being from a good mennonite background we used to 'use every part of the pig except the oink'. Never liked Headcheese though. The smell of those pigfaces stewing in the pot for days turned my stomach. I've had 'Chicken Head and foot soup' and still remember happily cracking the cooked heads to get at the brains. We also would grind up some of the beef and have raw hamburger. I kept up with this delicious way to eat beef as an adult until it became quite obvious that the meat in stores was not fresh or safe anymore. The way those people prepared the food....without washing hands OR the meat itself was disgusting. I was raised very natural foods and we rarely bought stuff from the store at all. I'm in my 40s and bought bread is still considered a treat LOL Just trying to make it clear that I am not against the premise, just that particular family and their mannerisms.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:14 am
You mean everyone in Iowa doesn't eat the raw food diet? LOL I am still trying to figure out the 'high meat' thing and why she would eat a piece when she was upset. Does anyone know this?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:53 am
http://www.extension.umn.edu/distribution/nutrition/DJ5968.html snip* Most of the beef offered for sale as retail cuts at supermarkets is aged from 5 to 7 days, which would be called moderately aged beef. Beef for certain restaurants is aged from 14 to 21 days, primarily to obtain the strong aged beef flavor.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 2:15 am
Thanks, Sunshyne4u. That was an interesting read; however, it still does not discuss the benefit, if any, of 4 month aging. I'd be very interested in finding more info or the website of the 'nutritionist' she's been talking with.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 4:50 am
me too. I have a feeling that it is just aged raw for the 21 days then put into the fridge for a max time of 4 months. it is extremely strong tasting and tender. I've had green steaks before. So old and aged they looked horrible. we cooked em though. cant imagine eating that slimey coating ick.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:33 pm
The show made me feel sick. I was really bothered by the mom insisting the little boys watch the chicken being slaughtered. Yes, many kids have seen this, and seen it all their lives, but not those two kids. I am glad the dad drove away and wouldn't let them watch. The kids may have had nightmares after that. I'm surprised the farm family had internet and still lived the way they did. But, I guess with the overwhelming amount of info, correct and not, out there, one can pick and choose what to believe. Farm mom should realize that the raw food available to the city family is not the same as what comes from her farm...mostly talking about the meat and dairy. Still, like all episodes, there were some good points coming from both families. Eating out so much doesn't give you much control over where your food comes from and how it's prepared.
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:43 pm
I would like to jump in here and give another perspective. I live in the heartland of the country and come from a county that produces more cattle than any other in the country. Our family members are beef producers. Producing the safest and best quality beef is of the utmost concern to us. First of all beef is refrigerated as soon as it is slaughtered. The aging process takes place after the carcass is skinned and hung. This always takes place under refrigeration, either in a freezer or cooler at temperatures in the low 30s. Beef should never be aged at under 40 degrees. Once beef is cut into parcels it should not be aged. The aged beef is trimmed so that the outer rind that has dehydrated and perhaps molded is always trimmed off. Once meat is cut for sale it should be kept cool and eaten soon after or froze. Meat that is cut and allowed to sit even under refrigeration for an extended time should not be served---cooked or not. Carcasses are hung to age, but once a cow is butchered the individual cuts must be frozen or eaten.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 8:41 pm
Beef should never be aged at under 40 degrees. Do you mean 'over 40°?'
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 9:57 pm
Yes, thanks for the correction
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 12:46 am
all beef is refrigerated as soon as it is slaughtered. I am not sure what my Grandparents would do. They didnt even have electricity. I dont believe that the meat we butchered in the summer could have been at such a low temperature. it can sometimes go up to 32 degrees celcius in Saskatchewan on the praries. that is just under 90 fahrenheit. I truly dont remember much as i was at the most 9 yrs old when they had the farm.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 1:30 am
We raised our own beef but had the local butcher process it for us so I don't know how they did it. My great grandfather raised and butchered his own beef and pork and smoked his own hams and other meats but I don't know how he did that either. I know he did not have any large refridgerated area to store the meat while it cured. It would be interesting to know.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 1:44 am
when we hunt deer, moose, bear up here I think the guys just hang it out in the shed for a week. But that hunting season is usually the Fall. Cooler temps.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 2:03 am
I have a son who hunts a lot; moose, bear or whatever is in season. I'll have to ask him when he gets back from AZ what he does with his. I know he butchers and packages it himself and makes his own jerky, sausage and sausage sticks.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 8:28 am
Iowans on 'Wife Swap' trigger viewers' fears State child abuse officials were peppered with complaints from across the country Tuesday after an Iowa family was featured on the television show "Wife Swap" eating raw eggs and meat, living in an untidy home, and seemingly letting the children go unschooled. State officials said there appears to be no child abuse in this case. An unorthodox diet and messy housekeeping don't amount to abuse, and the parents have filed the proper paperwork to home-school their two teenage children. ****** DHS only investigates child abuse and neglect cases when there is a credible report that, if proven true, would amount to abuse, Munns said. "None of these reports rise to that threshold," he said. "People who eat unusual food and feed it to their children are not abusive, nor are people whose houses are not tidy." ***** Previously, Haigwood had told the Register that she and her family eat nothing but raw food - eggs and meat included. They adopted this plan, which eliminates additives or dyes, as a way to deal with health problems related to their daughter's attention deficit disorder. The complete article: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007702210437
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 8:30 am
all beef is refrigerated as soon as it is slaughtered. I am not sure what my Grandparents would do. They didnt even have electricity. I would assume the original post was talking about commercial slaughtering, not private home slaughtering, esp in the past.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 10:04 am
My grandpa killed his own meat for the family and what wasn't cooked right away was hung in the smokehouse where it was smoked.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:37 pm
OK - we've got another perfect mis-match. Deer raising, urine selling Dad with Mom that helps in the deer stuff & also does all the house work while the Dad lays around. She gets up b/4 him & lays out his clothes for the day & gets him a towel for his shower. She then packs him a lunch & even goes out in the cold & starts his car for him so it'll be nice & cozy when he gets in it. It looks like from the pantry that she also home cans most all of their food. Oh yes the house stinks like piss & acording to the "new" wife, the family also smells like piss. The other family has a "Princess" wife & daughter. The poor Dad does everything for the 2 gals. He does the house work, the laundry, drives them shopping & waits for them so he can carry all of their designer bags to the car. The daughter is the biggest spoiled brat & runs up a monthly cell phone bill of $200 to $300. The "Princess" wife has kicked the Dad out of the master bedroom & sleeps with the "Princess" 14 yr old daughter & the dog who's name is ... you guessed it ... Princess.
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Mistysmoke
Member
08-10-2001
| Monday, February 26, 2007 - 9:42 pm
I thought it was funny that Deer dad and Princess mom couldnt see that they were mirrors of each other as far as how they treated thier spouses. DH actually watched it with me, so that alone made the show worth it 
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:17 am
This episode left me speechless (until now). Princess mom did get into the swing of things and bottle deer urine and clean out the stalls. Princess daughter needs to get a job in a thrift shop so she can appreciate that there are people who shop there because they have to. I liked the princess mom and the deer daughter.
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Serate
Member
08-21-2001
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 1:25 pm
She then packs him a lunch & even goes out in the cold & starts his car for him so it'll be nice & cozy when he gets in it. When I get up w/my hubby I do this for him. One time we had gotten alot of rain and I had him wear his high tops out and I carried his dress shoes & lunch out for him so his shoes wouldn't get soaked. Of course he doesn't expect it or tell me I have to do it. I do it cuz I want to.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 7:29 pm
I don't know if I'd have bottled deer pee and I'm not a squeemy princess. I am a princess; just not a squeemy one.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Tuesday, March 06, 2007 - 6:19 am
"cowboy" mom & city slicker guy were the stable parents. The city slicker hair cutter mom was the worst parent IMO. The "cowboy" dad at least was a hard worker.
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