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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 8:30 am
Please help. I have looked everywhere for this show on the site. I can find Wife Swap only. Of course America's Next Top Model is over on the American Idol forum so I am wondering if it's in an obscure location too. Anyone watching it? I figured last night's swap of a the evangelical christian with the body piercing/tatoo agnostic family would generate some discussions LOL.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 9:00 am
Yes, I'm watching it. I find it interesting that the Tattoo mother is willing to go to and participate in the church functions; however, the Evangelical Christian mother is NOT bending at all with her new family. I'm not caring much for Evangelical Mother's mother either. She's way too judgmental for my taste. But then again her daughter, the Evangelical Christian Mom, also managed to insult every religion on the plant when she was talking with Tattoo Dad. While I don't know much about the Evangelical Christian religion (I'm Catholic), I was taken aback by the comment she made that if she divorced, she could not remarry unless her ex-husband dies.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 3:24 pm
Ah, yes, another of Americas’ wonderful evangelical families. Did they ever say what the Evang husband does for a living? That’s a very nice house they live in and since the wife if a pre school teacher….well they aren’t living in that house on her salary. Dad doesn’t seem to be a big part of the family. They haven’t showed him going to bible class or even reading the bible at home. He seems to keep busy with fantasy sports teams.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 6:41 pm
I think he was an Air Force recruiter, but I wouldn't swear to it.
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 8:03 pm
The Evangelical mom and her mother are such hypocrites. I am sure Christ would approve of their self-righteous behavior. They are the reason why people turn away from organized religion.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 8:27 am
Thanks Lexie! I'm always curious how the moms spend each others $$$$. Hope the Evang mom doesn't spend the 50k on a lifetime of bible studies.
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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 11:47 am
I was wondering what he did for a living too. He doesn't seem to be as "into" Church as his wife.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 1:39 pm
I remember the dad distinctly saying, my wife is a Christian. I was taken aback at the pastor asking the kids for money as well. This show always seems to portray religious folks as rather fanatical. The air force dad really seems to have checked out of the family. The piercing/tattoo family seems to be at least open minded, the father has been treating the new mom with great respect.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 2:02 pm
Yeah, and that's another thing!!! What's with the Pastor having the kids tithe at Bible Study???? I was absolutely appalled!!! I've giving Tattoo/Piercing family mad props. They are both doing as best they can with their new families/spouses, while Evang. Christian family is NOT bending at all.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 8:30 pm
Did I hear right that Evang mom said she prayed for a white boyfriend and her prayers were answered, so she knows that god answers prayers (or something like that)?
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Cindy
Member
09-20-2005
| Monday, December 04, 2006 - 8:00 am
I thought she said she prayed for a good christian man. I don't remember the "white" part to be honest. Either way that is what threw me the most about him not being involved in the church part of their lives. It would seem to be something she would of required in a relationship right from the start. Now in our sunday school, when we do lessons about "giving" we have a penny jar and the kids can add pennies to it. Teaching them about giving to others.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Friday, December 08, 2006 - 4:28 am
participate in the church functions tattoo mom didnt participate at all. She dropped off the kids and sat n watched. Later Grandma took over the House and forced her into watching a Biblestudy. I sure see things differently than you guys. They are the reason why people turn away from organized religion. Not at all, those people are following the rules as laid out. People turn away from organized religion when they want their cake and eat it too. Dont want to follow the rules but want to pretend that they are Christian. What's with the Pastor having the kids tithe at Bible Study???? That wasnt a Bible study, I'd suggest it was a gathering and the kids get a lecture. The only 'fun' part is when they get to leave their chairs and go give a few coins. Anyone who would critize a tithe must not have gone to church as a child. Kids LOVE to do that. My sister and i would always each get a coin to put in. It made us feel part of everything and kind of grownup and important. especially if for charity after sitting on your Butt for half hour, it is great to be able to move around as well...hence the enthusiastic response of the kids LOL I didnt see it negative at all. And no I am not a rabid Church goer. The piercing/tattoo family seems to be at least open minded, the father has been treating the new mom with great respect. Sorry I dont see his refusal to discuss his ideas and stoic face as 'Respectful'. That couple are not openminded as they have already made up their minds that they dont like Christianity. The man is trying to force his son to humor the woman and I found the man's tears to be awareness. Now aware that he is a hypocrite and he never taught his son tolerance of any kind. I know people like that couple. Their kids are basically spoiled monsters and the parents have some bizarre idea that they are raising the kids to be 'decisionmakers' and 'high self esteem'. instead the kids seem very insecure without rules and boundaries. Due to insecurity, they act out. BUT....lets see what happens next week. by the way, I cant tolerate blunt aggressive women like Grandma. I'd love to debate her rude and dismissive comments and ask her if she would be proud of her actions if God was watching that precise moment. I think some people use religion more as a lifestyle choice rather than actually Following ALL the rules.
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, December 08, 2006 - 6:50 pm
have i missed the ending, please say no. i didn't see it in the guide all week i'll have to come back and read the commets.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Friday, December 08, 2006 - 9:48 pm
Dont want to follow the rules but want to pretend that they are Christian. These people are the reason I avoid churches.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Friday, December 08, 2006 - 11:17 pm
Evang mom got uglier and uglier when she got home. The family had fixed her a dinner, which she refused to eat. She didn't thank them for the flowers but harangued them non-stop about the alchohol in the house. The girls sat with their heads down, the husband's smile soon faded. Defend Christian evangelicals all you want, folks, but that women and her mother acted like every one of them I have met. Absolutely every one of them. Hateful, judgemental, controlling, mean and mad all the time. I think the boy Vincenzo could sense the evil and anger in her, which is why he was so obstinate.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 2:10 am
I did not see the first half but did see tonight. Those girls are so beautiful and I think at least the oldest one will see that mom is an ugly person. I do have to agree with her on one thing though. If I have a rule in my house that I am adamant about (like no alcohol) and my husband broke the rule I would absolutely be pisssssssed but I wouldn't be harping on it in front of the kids. On the other hand, this is a 'social experiment' so she should have expected them to go along with the new mom's stuff. Didn't she expect the family to do her stuff? I might have missed that part. She certainly didn't act all that happy to be home. Interesting that ALL of her friends who came to the party partook in the wine. Dad did seem to grow some balls too (albeit teeny neeny ones) and it looked like he was going to talk to her about some stuff. I hope. I liked his mom.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 5:23 am
how was the money to be spent?
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 5:25 am
I can't remember. I would like to know too as I think I missed most of that. I thought I was recording so didn't give it my whole attention then found out I wasn't. Rats!
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 6:34 am
Catfat, I agree 100% with your post. BTW... I was dying laughing at all the people drinking wine at the party. Watching Evang Mom's mother squirm and piss and moan about the wine was worth it!!! Jami, this is the best as I can remember how the money was spent: Evang Mom spent Tattoo Mom's money: $10,000.00 for bills; $20,000.00 for Vicenzo's education; $100.00 for scrapbooking for Vicenzo; $1,000.00 was to be tithed to a Church; (I can't remember the rest) Tattoo Mom spent Evang family as: $20,000.00 for new pool (which Evang Mom didnt want, but the family did); $20,000.00 for a boat (which Evang mom didn't want but dad did); $3,000.00 for the girls to go shopping; and I think the rest may have been for a family vacation.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 10:50 am
Lexie, I think you got the part about the money correct. And I was thinking that the tattoo family will not give $1000 to any Christian church---LOL. Maybe to a Budhist temple or something. Is there any follow-up to this show, like how long did it take the Evang father to walk out on her? Ugh, what a piece of work she was. I hope she watched the show.
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 2:16 pm
I am very sorry for the discomfort in that family. Evang Mom looks at the family with disdain which is worse than hate. Her husband had to beg her for a hug, she is unhappy, and her unhappiness is all personal and has nothing to do with Christianity. She fails to see the intimidation she places on others she has no tolerance; maybe her church is her only example of how Christians act. She probably asks herself why am I not happy I am a Christian, I bible study. She will soon realize that in order to be tender and loving like Jesus she will have to act like Him.
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Trini
Member
07-06-2004
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 2:22 pm
I forgot to say, she went to bed, left the children in the living room alone, especially the middle girl she looked so lost. That was bad it was such an unhappy ending.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 3:20 pm
Weren't those girls beautiful? But so hurt by the evang mother's behavior. They tried so hard for some affection or even just some approval, and got nothing but anger and hatred. I wonder how she treats them in private if she is this bad with the cameras on and other people in the room. That kind of behavior borders on verbal abuse. Very telling in the end when the husband walked back in and sat down in front of the TV again.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 3:28 pm
And also, wasn't some of the money for the evang family to be spent on art lessons? I remember the puzzled look on evang mom's face, like "Art? What is art?" (paraphrasing here)
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Rehtse
Member
08-17-2005
| Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 3:54 pm
Yes, some of the money was to be spent on art lessons. The tattoo family was to get $5k or $6k for a vacation. Given that they will probably go camping, that money should go a long way! I was so moved by tattoo dad's reaction to his wife's arrival. What a contrast to the evangelical reunion. Jeez, if I were the husband I would divorce the good christian wife and seek custody of the kids. <sg> I wonder what the big deal about alcohol in the house is. If I had children, I would rather that they grow up in an environment where alcohol is consumed responsibly instead of experiencing alcohol when they first gain some independence.
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