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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 5:30 am
I am writing this before I read the other comments here, so forgive me if I repeat anything already posted. I have to say first and foremost, I am so disappointed in this season. Is there a different writer or producer? What is happening to one of my favorite shows? Why didn't they show them picking names for their teams? I always liked watching how they came to their conclusions. WHen did this show become Project Runway? Isn't this show supposed to be about the best business person and not about a person who can design clothes? Uggh. What a terrible challenge? What was "business" about this? I am confused on something. A part of the reward is that the winners are exempt next time? So that means the one team is not involved next week at all? I could not believe how "immature" DT was when he had to use a pencil to pick up the suit. As if it were a used condom. Is he homophobic? Was the suit germy? Was the pink really wet paint? I just don't get it? And why was the Playboy mansion (and all of its scantily clad girls) a reward? Sexist if you ask me. Okay, that is all I have for now. I am curious to see if anyone else brought any of my points up already...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 5:37 am
I prefer the Apprentice showing a lot of footage of the contestants working on how they are going to execute the challenge.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 5:59 am
I personally would not want to touch a swimsuit worn by someone I don't know with my bare hands either. Eeeeeew!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 6:08 am
Why not? Can you get a disease from touching a bathing suit? Plus Donald did know Carey. He knew him at least to be clean and healthy. I felt bad for Carey when DT did that. I think that is somewhat humiliating.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:26 am
ITA Julie, if he couldn't pick the suit up without using a pencil, Don't pick it up at all. Between his questionable remarks about Rosie and now the pencil, I think he is coming very close to the line. With that said I now have to say if I was on the show I would so be sleeping in a tent this week. Careys suit is nothing near my taste but I would have trusted his judegment on the gay market. I would have thought it was a good idea to tap into it and take the chance. I would also only had 2 bikinis and a one piece. I wasn't crazy about the winning teams one piece. I liked the back, the front not so much. I was happy Frank was on the losing team. It was hard enough to watch the playboy manison without having to endure Frank being there.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:29 am
Trump said he had a great body and would (if he wanted) to be able to carry off wearing that swim suit. LOL I nearly spit when he said that. I am shocked that everyone including Ivanka was able to keep a straight face. I thought I must have missed them picking names but I guess they just didn't bother showing it. How funny is it that the team living indoors so easily can evesdrop on the outdoor team. I wonder if they realize they are being spied on?
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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 7:53 am
ROFLMAO, Lilfair!
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:00 am
LOL – I agree that Trump's comment about wearing the suit was a jaw dropping moment. Not sure why he was holding it with a pen though if he thought it would look good on him! The Apprentice has been one of my favorite reality shows. When I first started watching it, I was astonished by its popularity. Although I enjoyed watching people competing for a job by doing various business tasks, I found it hard to believe that so many other people did. I thought that most people would find it dull and boring. The ratings for The Apprentice began to drop sharply the same season that Martha Stewart's show made its appearance. Too much exposure or people were getting tired of the formula? Anyway, the show has become less and less about finding a good businessperson. The tasks often don't require much in the way of business skills. The other problem the show has this year is that it is up against brutally tough competition. I'm still enjoying it – not as much though as I used to.
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Scoutmom
Member
01-19-2006
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:20 am
I feel kinda alone but I like the new twists for this season. I think it was time to see something a little different and there is no way they could do this tent city idea while in NY. The tent city really lets us see how some of these prima donnas handle stress. Living there 24/7 would definitely give me the incentive to win the next challenge. And, they have to realize they they can be heard and watched since in the first episode they were seen looking over the hedge at the others in the swimming pool and they also said that it was bad enough to be in tent city but they really didn't want to have to listen to the others celebrate being in the mansion. I think having the winning PM remain as the PM is a great twist along with them getting to go into the boardroom. Since there is already some jealousy in the ranks it should be interesting to see if they turn on their winning PM when they actually lose a challenge. I can hardly wait. And, several of us here at work think that we are reminded of Rebecca (loser to Randal) whenever we see Heidi.
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:39 am
Forgot to add. I think after next week we will see the last of tent city. I'm guessing that which ever part of the losing team loses next week that whole group will be canned. Then the winning part of the losing team will move into the manison.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 8:47 am
Abby, the tent team cooks, showers, and completely lives outside in their tents. The Playboy Mansion reward was insulting to me. Whether the team was all women or not, it was inappropriate. I'm noticing that "skin" seems to be the theme du jour of this season (Playboy Bunnies, bathing suits, next week the cheerleaders, the shots of the female contestants floating in the pool). Talk about jumping the shark! I think Nicole should've gone. Not a single person on that team stood up and said "the buyers are not going to buy a pink Speedo-type suit". They did not know what stores the buyers represented. And Carey made a fatal mistake in assuming that, in LA, the primary market is gay men (he made some reference to that at the beginning of the design phase). Sorry, but yes, there are gay men in LA. But there are many more men who would not be caught dead in a pink Speedo, and many women who would not allow their men to even consider wearing one. Nicole allowed Carey to run with his pink suit and tight board shorts. And for that I think she should've been fired. (Plus, the reason why you select a model is to show off the item being modeled. Nicole really didn't look appropriate modeling the suit she wore.) $1000 difference may not sound like a lot of difference (maybe Juju mentioned it upthread?) but that equates to over 100 suits. And that actually is quite a lot. I'm really disappointed in this season. I dislike the objectifying of women (what I perceive as such). And I dislike Trump's attitude. His ego is really overblown (as is his hair) and it's starting to become offensive to me. (The way he handled the pink suit is just one example.) I don't like the PM remaining as PM, but I think the next twist of having the tent team compete against each other (with the mansion team not having to compete) is an interesting twist. That said, again, I think at some point the mansion team may decide it's worth it to lose and have to camp out in order to get rid of Heidi as PM. That, or they'll have to mutiny in some way. I didn't see much of Heidi's leadership this episode, so I dunno how she actually did as PM. I dunno... this entire episode just left a nasty taste in my mouth.
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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 9:55 am
Julieboo stated: I am confused on something. A part of the reward is that the winners are exempt next time? So that means the one team is not involved next week at all? Right, Julieboo. The team will be split and compete against each other. I have a feeling that his big 'twist' will be that the 1/2 of the team that loses the comp will all be fired. I also agree with you about Nicole being a model. There is something about her that bothers me. She's like "Oh..you need me..here I am." She so wants to be noticed. Costacat, I completely agree with you that Nicole should have been the one fired. She was the PM and should have been in control of outfits. She let her dislike for Michelle cloud her judgement on the pink swimsuit and whether it would sell well.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:22 am
To be honest, the trip to Hef's mansion really didn't bother me all that much. Just like last week, I have a bad taste in my mouth about the winning PM sitting in the boardroom. If Heidi is not telling her teammates what is going on, then she has an unfair advantage over them. I just don't see Heidi's team throwing a challenge so they can get her fired as PM. I don't think anyone on Heidi's team wants to go camping. I didn't like the tents last week and I still don't like them. These contestants are there for a job... not a freaking camping trip.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:42 am
Lexie, the mansion party didn't bother me either. I would go! Hef cracks me up. I guess since I am not a contestant, and do not take this show seriously, the tents don't bother me. I think it's funny how the mansion people listen to the tent people. I would be doing the same thing. I just think it's funny to listen to people moan and groan. In the end, one of the tent people might win the whole thing and sleeping in the tent isn't going to bother them. I guess I watch the show to laugh more then anything else.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 11:46 am
Am I the only one that thinks Heidi reminds me of Sandra Bullock? Something similar about her looks, or mannerisms? I don't like the tent thing. This isn't Survivor, it's a job competition. People competing for a job need food and good rest to make it a reasonable competition, and more interesting to me. Even so, the losing team both times didn't lose by much, it was just a small amount. Neither team is all that impressive, or they are pretty evenly matched.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:01 pm
The problem for me with last night's show was I felt like I had missed half of it, they seemed to go right from being told what that challenge was to the runway show. The meat of the challenge is what I prefer to watch.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:04 pm
ZM... I would also go to Hef's mansion in a New York minute!!! Karuuna... I totally agree with you about Heidi - she is very "Sandra Bullocky"...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:43 pm
Jasper, that is EXACTLY it. They seem to be ignoring the prep before the challenge. Take last week's episode, they just went straight to the challenge. I like seeing them discuss it. I like seeing who comes up with what idea, etc. I hope this whole season is not like the past two episodes. I have really enoyed this show up til this season, and I want it like it was!!!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:46 pm
Did anyone else care that they didn't show the teams coming up with their team names?
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 12:56 pm
Jasper and Julie, I agree. It's a business competition, they should be showing more of the business part of the competition - the decision making, the struggles between who takes control, etc. That's the best part. This last episode was only 25 minutes of the hour when the competition was already over.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:05 pm
They seem to be spending a lot of time showing the winners enjoying their "reward" as well as a lot of time showing the contestants hanging around (especially the tent people). I, too, miss seeing how they brainstorm the task. I was suprised when they mentioned the team names, kind of as a side note. Again, I'm getting the feeling that this is turning into a vanity show for Trump and less of a competition for a job. And that's too bad, because it sounds like what most of us enjoyed was watching HOW they came up with their plans for the task, and not so much how they enjoyed their reward (or not, as the case may be).
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:12 pm
Maybe that comes later Costa, when there aren't as many people?
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:15 pm
LOL, so funny to read the comments! I am not watching the show because it seemed to have turned into an infomercial for a company or an infomerical on Trump. Has that changed at all? It doesn't sound like it since you are all saying they don't show any of the business decisions -- that was the part I liked the best.
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Mamapors
Member
07-29-2004
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:20 pm
The tent thing is not bothering me so much. Not sure what it adds to the show though. I was offended by the Playboy Mansion reward. Hugh Hefner and his three girlfriends....pulleeeze!! Were they trying to tell us they have a four-way every night? Our they all line up and take turns? Sorry to be so blunt, but I was offended. And it added nothing to the show.
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Zachsmom
Member
07-13-2000
| Monday, January 15, 2007 - 1:26 pm
I think everyone needs to remember this is a 'reality show'...and it's based on Trumps reality! It's not really who is best for an excellent job in Trumps business.
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