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Cricket
Member
08-05-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:55 pm
Oh Carolyn...WHY?? Why did you have to speak out against Michael this week? Exactly how many lives does Lee have? Are they doing this on purpose to make him the next apprentice? As the PM, he should have gone like the others. Needmylife, it would have been AWESOME if Donald had fired them all.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:55 pm
They got to make their own wine at a winery.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 6:19 pm
I enjoyed the show once again. Nice spoiling Julie! I confess that I was a bit disappointed that the guys lost. I thought they had done everything right but it's the same old story. It's not enough to make a great event and get the people there. You have to sell! I think the women were being pretty silly and unprofessional the way they were still blaming Sean for supporting Andrea. There was no absolutely clear reason for him not to support Andrea based on performance. The other women should have simply moved on by this point. Michael offering to give up assets to the other team was a big mistake. You shouldn't win by cheating but you have to do what it takes to win fairly and what the guys had done (securing the cheerleaders' commitment) was just good business and perfectly fair. Wow. Roxanne is looking pretty good for the win right now.
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Geri
Member
07-08-2003
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 6:22 pm
thanks for spoiling. for some reason, my directv does not want to broadcast nbc. for the last few nites, we get a grey screen with the instructions not to call, they know there is a problem. thank goodness for cnbc, atleast i can catch the rerun.
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Peeper
Member
06-14-2004
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 6:49 pm
Can someone tell me why Trump made such a big deal over the cheerleaders? It is obvious they were not a winning point for the team anyways. The team lost IMO because of the price point....any other PM would have been gone because of this. I like Lee, but I think he should have been gone over Michael. This was the most boring boardroom ever...Michael should have put up a better fight.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:04 pm
I kind of agree with Trump. I like the idea of someone being honest, decent and fair in business, but at the same time there is no way that you should give your competitors any help. The cheerleading thing obviously wasn't something that broke the game and cost them the win, but it was a sign to Trump that Michael might do something similar where it could actually hurt the organization. It also was a sign that Michael wasn't serious about securing the Apprentice position.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:10 pm
Exactly Jimmer. It was not the "cost" of this win, but it showed that Michael was not cut out to be a Trump guy if he'd do something like that. Like Jimmer said, it was a sign of how'd Michael would be...
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:12 pm
I didn't agree with his decision tonight. I think Michael deserved to be reprimanded for that stupid move, but that was NOT the reason they lost the task. Lee deserved to go.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:18 pm
Trump made a big deal out of the cheerleaders because he needed an excuse to hang onto Lee. Why he likes keeping him around, I'll never know. I thought Michael's explanation was perfectly sound, as the coach was clearly seeing it as a problem to use a University resource to give what would seem like an official endorsement to only one team when she would've preferred to stay neutral. As far as Michael knew she might've gotten angry and refused to give anyone access to the cheerleaders. He tried to work with her and let her feel like they would at least consider her request instead of shooting it down immediately. Either way, that's not why they lost, and clearly the cheerleaders were not an asset (even though Trump thinks a display of pretty girls is the answer to everything). They may have even been a liability. It's like that season when one team used a circus act to promote their casino task, and it just distracted people away from gambling. The guys had too many distractions while the women quietly focused on selling food. This loss was all on Lee. As soon as I saw them targeting the college boys I knew they were on the wrong track. Students are not where the money is. It was homecoming weekend and there were alumni and their families to target. The women were brilliant. Even if Michael had sold, he'd have to be a machine to make up the $1,000 difference. The eating contest was astoundingly foolish, considering they're not just giving food away but putting on a spectacle that surely spoils the appetites of passersby. To say that Michael's attempt to appear open-minded to the cheerleading coach was a bigger offense than the long list of misteps Lee made is ludicrous, and Caroline came off as foolish for even suggesting they were equally objectionable. It seems like whenever we see a men's team take it for granted that they have an advantage in a task, whether it's cars or football or steak, they always lose. They lose because they overestimate their expertise in what they perceive as a man's realm.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:21 pm
What I'd like to know is was money from the profits used towards the promotions like the money machine, the steak for the eating contest, etc.
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Biscottiii
Member
05-30-2004
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:32 pm
Thanks so much Julieboo from me too! I like coming in to read before watching the show, so that I can be keeping an extra eye out for the goof ups that will come later to bite them in the backsides. Great job spoiling! I'm still a strong Apprentice fan too. But, have to admit, this season's candidates are definitely NOT outstanding. The ladies seem too immature to have ever left their mommies - all the crying in their bedrooms, for PETE's Sake! And the guys are nothing to write home about. So tired of Lee, but bet he's the one slated to win. I agree that I'm enjoying watching Ivanka in action too! She's not only beautiful, but very articulate and full of business sense.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:36 pm
I just want to keep seeing Sean every week(drool). I get such a kick out of him every time he calls someone a wanker! LOL I really have no idea why Trump wants to keep Lee around when there have been several times when I think he should have been the one to go. I think this was one time.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 10:46 pm
Call me evil, but I wouldn't have minded a bit if the ladies would have lost, and Allie would have been kicked to the curb. 
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, May 08, 2006 - 11:15 pm
I agree, Who. I'm so ready for Allie to go.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 4:18 am
Twinkie, I agree, that cracks me up every time...it is really a rude comment but with his accent is just doesnt sound so bad Michael was robbed!!!! I cant stand Lee and he should have been fired
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 4:32 am
I was hoping Lee would go, too. The past few episodes, my Lee hate has really developed. He's just...kind of sleazy and his comments about women make me want to smack him. I know Michael has been shown as sort of useless (when we've seen him at all), so I wasn't so much upset to see him go as I was upset to see Lee stay. The show would have been much more enjoyable for me with Michael there and Lee gone. I don't care to watch another week of Lee. Whoami & Twinkie, I wouldn't have minded seeing Allie go, either. She really does need to just get over Sean's boardroom comments. He was being honest about the task, not personally attacking her. It was the boardroom for Pete's sake...I don't think he has anything to apologize for and the women just need to drop it. So, early in the episode I was all for the men winning it. But then the men just had to go and be...well...men. All that talk about scantily clad girls and steaks? I had to pull for the women at that point. And I laughed heartily when the guys lost...they were so sure they had it in the bag, and then the women basically doubled their sales. Too funny!
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Spoton
Member
09-16-2005
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 4:35 am
This has been a fun season! Although, I'm not sure DT has any very good prospects left. Sean is my emotional favorite, haven't seen him goof up in any tasks, and he always works hard to try to win. Michael was awful!! He needed to go looong ago. Like when he was PM for the Boys and Girls Club event - horrid! His team saved him that time. Lee - I really don't see any favoritism towards him from DT - There just have always been more obvious choices to fire when he was on the losing teams. The girls...I like "dark-haired girl" (name??), but don't remember any strong points for her (much the same as I feel about Sean). Roxanne - no way. She is good with words in the boardroom, but not good at all on the tasks. The only reason they won was Allie and Nameless coming up with the delivery food. Up to then she was clueless - no promotion, no plan. Allie - I do NOT like her personality - snipey, vindictive, very teenage-girlish...BUT she really has a knack for pulling the task out of the fire. I think she may rise to the top and will be hard to beat in a one-on-one competition.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 4:39 am
I love when he says Wanker too! And I totally agree that Allie should go. I rewound and watched the very beginning. I am so disappointed in Roxanne. SHe was every bit as whiney as Allie. And at least Allie was the one who Sean "dissed". Don't get me wrong, Allie is acting like a high school girl, but Roxanne is even acting moreso. I can't believe they droned on and on about it! The earplug thing was funny though. I was rolling my eyes when Allie was going on and on about how much it would mean to her if Sean would apologize. (for his opinion no less. There was no spitefullness to what he said in the brdrm.)
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Biloxibelle
Member
12-21-2001
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 5:11 am
I keep watching and I do enjoy the show. What I find funny is every week after the firing Trumps ask his right hand people if it was a good decision. They always agree, with of courses, there was no other choice, they had to go, blah, blah, blah. Just one time I would love if Bill, Carolyn, George or Ivanka would disagree. I would love one of them to say "Nope, that was a boneheaded decision. What were you thinking!". That's all I ask.
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Peeper
Member
06-14-2004
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 5:35 am
LOL I agree Bilo....it would be nice to see an honest heartfelt response from his lackeys every once in a while.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 5:35 am
What I found funny last night, too was that after Trump asked Carolyn, then George if they agreed with his decision, he then said something like "I agree, too"...which...it was HIS decision, I would hope he'd be in agreement with himself! (Although can you imagine if he didn't? "I think I fired the wrong person, get them all back in here!") I think the closest I've seen to anyone disagreeing is when one of them will say, "Well, it could have gone either way"...or "It was a tough choice", something where they don't just flat out tell him he's wrong, but don't really say that agree. But, I'm with you Biloxi, I'd love to see that!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 6:22 am
I am a person who only watches this show when I'm around, and it's on. I used to watch every episode. It's the same every week, and every season. I guess that is why I don't watch much anymore. Trump is all over the map as to why he fires people, and it is too hypocritical. One day he'll blame any and all failures on the PM, the next week he picks on some minute detail. I don't know anyone's long-term abilities, so I can't judge whether it was just an excuse to let a consistently bad guy go (Michael), but I really think that whole task failed based on Lee. That said, I think Lee staged a great event, and maybe there is some merit in that. I think I'd rather have Lee as an employee with that good event and competitive spirit, than Michael who was goingto give away an asset and was not focused on the task at the time it was happening. Meh. Sean: he sounds like the guy who liked Mary in 'There's Something About Mary'. That accent is SO cliche that it is annoying. I don't know anything about his personality, but I just couldn't stand hearing his voice at all last night. I would change the channel. The women SUCKED last night. Their task success was a FLUKE, and nothing more. They only had a last minute bright idea that saved them, but their behavior up to the day of the event was terrible. Go to the restaurant and eat food? Give me a break. It looked like Outback was prepared to offer those 3 same menu items. There was no need to EAT those items. They needed to be on campus knowing their audience, not their product. They had no flyers, they had no advertising. They were relying on "day of" word of mouth or something. I thought the guys were solid in the planning of the event. Another thing that has made me STOP watching the Apprentice is the failure of women to act like anything more than caty, snotty, high school <77>. We see it every season. The only season where we saw some PROFESSIONAL women, was season 1. Ever since, we've seen many really tragic women, who concentrate on toxifying relationships, rather than just getting the job done, without emotion. OK, I'll admit, I'm not often friends with women, and have never really understood the cattiness of the girls I meet. I don't often like many females. It's like we have this inherent insecurity, and it causes such <77> behavior. I really don't like this show because it just highlights that tragic quality in women. Someone said upthread that the women went on and on about a boardroom that Sean was only giving his opinion, and wasn't attacking anyone. I didn't see the last episode, but I thought the women were really annoying to watch at the beginning of the show. As if moaning about how MEAN Sean was, would help. It just ruins any future professional relationships, and that may be the team's demise in the next task. OK, rant over. This show is getting stale.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 6:57 am
Prediction: Sean vs Tammy in the final two. Lee has the cajones to think "outside the box" and has vision, drive, and energy. Sean has drive, but not sure if he has business vision. Michael had nothing. It was "Michael who???" all season. Talk about flying under the radar. But in the end, Lee will put his foot in his mouth one more time (9th life) and Sean will end up at the end. Allie has energy, but no vision, same as Roxanne. Tammy is the only one I see keeping her cool about her. So, now the final task. Will Trump assign the teams or let them choose? Who will be available? Do we even remember the previously fired contestants - will he bring back some nightmares????? 'squeek'
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 7:36 am
I haven't read your posts yet, but I'm going to. I just have to say before I do that I am so disappointed in why they fired Michael. That was the most bogus reason to fire someone that I have ever heard of. Lee should have been fired for allowing the eating contest.
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 7:45 am
I was hoping that if he was going to fire Michael (which became evident in the first minute of the board room, 'cause you can always tell who Trump is going to fire based on how much he harps on one thing), he would fire Lee too. Don't like the lack of competitive spirit in Michael? Fine. Fire him. But the reason Michael was manning the mic - the sub-reason they fired him - was at the direction of the PM (Lee) and because SOMEBODY had to run all the dang events. The reason they lost was because they had too many other things going on besides the food. You can't get in line to buy food if you are watching a cheerleader pyramid or a bunch of frat guys power-eating steak. And the prices...Lee always seems to have issues with prices (doesn't like what others set them at, sets them wrong when he does it himself). They had to sell 2.5 Bloomin' Onions to the girls' one to make the same amount of money. And those things feed a small nation. Much as Allie (who else was surprised to learn she was a college cheerleader? NOT!) grates on my nerves, the girls had a much better strategy with the $5 price point and free delivery. As soon as I saw them doing that, I knew the guys would lose. And, like I say, it should have been another "2 for 1" with Lee and Micheal gone, IMHO.
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