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Vee
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02-23-2004

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
So glad that Monique's mother's behavior has been mentioned. I thought that she was way out of line...way out. Who would take over the spotlight from her daughter like that? Very odd.

Secrey50
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09-15-2005

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secrey50 a private message Print Post    
I just think she was a little over the top and living out a little fantasy of her own.

Vee
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02-23-2004

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
LOL...nope, I stand by my "way out of line." Glad you brought it up, Secrey50, because no one in my sphere noticed anything about it at all. She was definitely living out her own fantasy. I think I would also be very unhappy if my mother ever did anything like that to me and I KNOW that my daughter wouldn't like my doing something like that.

ETA: What's the phrase..."stealing the limelight" ???

Secrey50
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09-15-2005

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Secrey50 a private message Print Post    
Absolutely agree with you Vee. We talked about it here at work and several people thought it was ridiculous. And when she started dancing with Monique, I thought I would die.

Necie
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09-07-2006

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Necie a private message Print Post    
Monique's mom was bizarre! I was watching her and thinking, "Is she an enchilda short of a mexican platter or what?" I was waiting for the other dancers to come out and hug Monique and Louie and mom was all in the way! She cracked me up, I wonder what Monique was thinking.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
I also noticed Monique's mom. I also noticed that the other dancers held back when they normally rush the team that is leaving. Monique had to motion for them to come on.

Mom has probably stood behind the scenes for years and finally saw an opportunity to be noticed.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Mags, I agree that part of dancing is to showcase the woman, but as someone who dances I think the woman has the easier job of the two. In real partnered dancing the man has to lead and that is not an easy task at all. Not only does he have to keep his own footwork going he also has to time leads just right and direct the woman where to go.

Now in choreographed stuff, like on this show, I think the need to lead is not as important and that's why we have the men dominating this year. They don't really have to know how to give great leads because the moves are all planned out.

Choreographed dance can be very exciting because you can do some flashy things, but as a dancer I respect lead/follow dance more. It takes a very keen lead and a good follow to get a great dance. Jack and Jill competitions are my favorite because you are paired up at random and your music is at random. The man has to really be listening to the music and thinking on his feet -- not just going through a routine.

I have to wonder how much true leading these men are being taught. I hope they are learning some.

Lumbele
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07-12-2002

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 12:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lumbele a private message Print Post    
Didn't see the mum's show stealing, but the first thing I mentioned to dh when Monique and Louie were dancing was that he should hold back some.
He swung those hips and moved those legs like no tomorrow instead of adjusting to *her* abilities. This much ego would only work with an equally qualified partner (brainless one would probably be best), but even then Louie would probably find a way to show her up. This guy can't get past his own ego to first place.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
How do you think one goes into this position while dancing?
adf

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 1:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Don't have a clue NT. Not even gonna give it a try! LOL

We're still doing the basic wedding shuffle in my home.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
If being female is a negative, remember Stacy almost won it. Beautiful long legs helps.

Mags
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06-26-2001

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 2:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mags a private message Print Post    
Good points Brenda and V. Like I said, had no clue. I didn't even think about the man leading.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
I just have to say.. I think it's interesting how it seems all of the men are so hot for Cheryl. My hubby doesn't watch, but I'm sure he'd find her the least attractive of all the women.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 02, 2006 - 9:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
LOL @ Native! First of all, thanks for the height stats. I didn't realize Emmitt was so, um, short! (And I can say that since I'm 5'10"!) I knew Edyta wasn't very tall, and I would swear that Joey is shorter (I think it's his physique, though, as he has very short legs and a long body and it looks totally disproportionate to me). Hmmm... seems to be a thing for short guys this year... Mario. Joey. Emmitt. <wink> Anyways, when Edyta wears heels, she's taller than Joey. And, having been a dancer for a number of years (geez, I gotta get back out there!) and being so tall, and dancing with many different partners throughout the years, I can confidently say that:

1. It can be more difficult if the woman is taller than the man, particularly if there are a lot of underarm turns.

2. It is definitely more difficult to learn to lead. (And not applicable here, but to learn to BE led, too!) A good strong male partner can take a woman through a dance, and make her look damn near spectacular, even if she has no clue what she's doing. It does take a special skill to follow, though, too. You have to be able to read the clues, the slight pressure on the shoulder blade or grip of the hand, to know where to go and how to get there. These choreographed dances are a heckuva lot easier to learn... you just have to remember what you do when... when to stomp, when to turn and grab a hand and smile... when to shimmy.

And that picture? Heck, girl, that's easy. You know the dance move when a guy picks up a girl and swings her to the left and then to the right and then straight up so that she comes back down with both legs around his waist (during a jive or east coast swing)? Same kinda thing... pick her up and start to swing her around you, but she keeps going while grabbing behind her knees to curl around him. It's an interesting position, but the balance is pretty easy since she's centered on him.

I will say this... I've been impressed with how limber the female celebrities are, throughout the seasons. I didn't realize so many people could do the splits! :-)

Fiat
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10-07-2004

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fiat a private message Print Post    
I guess I'm in the minority, but Louis is my favorite of the professional males! I love his dance syle, and I'm impressed by his choreography. Remember that Paso Doeble (sp?) the professionals did a few weeks ago? That was intense--and I believe his creation. I don't think his ego is any bigger than the other pros.

I was sad to see him and Monique eliminated. I appreciated the extra difficulty of their routines and respected them for taking that risk. I think they lacked sexual chemistry, which is what adds to many of the other teams performances. But thats a good thing in this case because it was more like a father/daughter relationship, in which case sexual chemistry would have been icky. Kind of like brother-sister ice skating pairs.

Oh, and, get off the dance floor mom.

My .02

Mstie4
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09-25-2006

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mstie4 a private message Print Post    
Long time lurker, first time poster. I guess I'm kinda on my own with this, but I don't have a problem with Mairo at all. I'd even go so far as to say I think he's the most talented dancer this year. Joey is sweet, but he leads with his hips and as a result sometimes lacks the masculinity of Emmitt and Mario. Emmitt is having a good time and it shows. As a director (stage) I always tell my casts that if they are having fun the audience will have fun. You can't help but enjoy watching Emmitt.

But I have a question for those who have more dance experience than I. (This is a serious question and not an attempt to argue.) I thought Mario's first dance was perfect. I've watched it three times looking for the flaws that would have prevented him from a perfect score and can not find them. In my opinion (for what it's worth) it was a flawless dance. His steps all seem to be right on the money, he had full body extension, his movements were fluid and his body expression was great. Where did he fall short? Or is it just the director in me wanting to reward an emotional performance? I thought his second dance, which the judges seems to like more was a little jerky and he seemed to be playing more to the audience.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
I forced my DH (who doesn't dance) into taking the free tango lessons at our hotel in Buenos Aires this Spring. I was doing the leading. The teacher told him to suck in his paunch, stand erect, & remember to be a macho Argentine male. All the women replied that we were macho American females!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 5:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
welcome Mstie!!! I thought it was perfect also but I dont look for all the techy things judges do

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, November 03, 2006 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twinkie a private message Print Post    
Mstie, I've always thought that Mario was the best dancer there. I don't know about the technical stuff but you can tell he's a natural on the dance floor. I know he works hard at it but it just seems to come more easily to him.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
Fiat, I love watching Louis dance too... he is also my fave male pro (easily). Perfection! I've heard he is gay which to me explains how is he is so keen on knowing what's appealing in a male dance style...

Shel
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07-27-2005

Saturday, November 04, 2006 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
Native - what I want to know is... Is that a lift? Len said a lift is anything the girl can't to on her own. I don't know about you, but I certainly can't float 4 feet above the floor curled up in a ball. :-)

Beth4freedom
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10-24-2003

Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 1:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beth4freedom a private message Print Post    
Shel, I am ASSUMING that's a lift! I think it's anytime the woman's feet are up off the floor with the assistance of her partner?

Also, i guess I am way in the minority here, but I really liked it when Monique's mother came out onto the floor. I saw it as a gesture of love and support, not attention grabbing, and I liked it because it "mixed it up" a little as far as the formal ending. I saw how deadly serious Monique looked during the recap of her "journey" on the show, and I think her Mom knew how hard this was going to be on her. Maybe partly reflected in the fact that I lost my own Mom, and would love for her to be there to support me through any of my defeats and triumphs.

As for mixing up the ending, i loved the "circle dance" at the end with the arm ripple effect (Emmitt style!). It looked like maybe Joey signaled for it to happen? Or maybe it was preplanned for whomever lost? I just wish the camera had stayed on it longer; I thought it was a great image, showing the "community" of the group.

Fiat
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10-07-2004

Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 3:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fiat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Buggles. I love watching him during the professional dances , when he can really show what he can do. That man can move!

Ashley and Edyta are my favorite of the female dancers. I hope Ashley will participate again next year...and get a better partner. Poor thing hasn't been able to catch a break the past two years, although I she did do well the first year, didn't she?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Mario's technique is sometimes less than perfect. He doesn't always hold his shoulders back, he sometimes loses his frame, he sometimes steps toe-heel rather than heel-toe. For each dance, there's a very specific posture and step, and he sometimes misses it a bit. It's very minor stuff and most often we'll miss it on TV due to the camera angles and cutbacks. But enough so that the professional judges don't think it's perfect and deserves all 10's! <grin>

As far as Native's question, I'm not so sure that's a lift. We don't see how she got into that position, but he's obviously not giving her a hand right now. I wonder if she could've gotten into that position with a normal dance hold? If so, then it may qualify. I dunno if any of the female stars could do that, although some of the pros may. (Honestly, I think it's kinda weird looking, myself.)

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Sunday, November 05, 2006 - 6:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Costa, do you think his dimple adds a couple of points to the judges score?