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Yellek
Member
08-22-2001
| Tuesday, November 14, 2006 - 11:56 am
Haha, first thing I thought of (regarding weight loss through pooping) is Nibbler from Futurama. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibbler_(Futurama) Nibbler produces feces which are made of dark matter and can be used as starship fuel. In "The Why Of Fry", when taking Nibbler for a walk, Fry is confronted with picking up Nibbler's dropping, a tiny sphere of immense mass (he states that "it weighs as much as a thousand suns!"). Fry is unable to pick it up, and is promptly fined for "failure to scoop".
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 2:02 am
Uh . . . eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew! I knew there was a reason I didn't watch that show.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 3:37 pm
can someone please recap tonights episode or tell me where I can view online. I have to go out to dinner tonight so I will miss the show.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 6:31 pm
Interesting bike challenge for immunity eh? 11 miles by Kai is impressive,but i hope Eric wins. Adrian is a crybaby. Crap Kai wins immunity 
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 6:37 pm
I would love a woman to win this show but absolutely not Kai or Heather. I can wait until next season if that's the case. Not having seen this episode yet I don't know why Adrian is crying. I do know that a lot of obese people are obese from emotional issues. When the weight starts coming off as quickly as it is for this competition there has not been enough time to deal with the flood of emotions that come to light also. I would imagine she may be dealing with some of this along with the stress of the competition and the hateful behavior of the other contestants and trainers. I probably would be crying at some point too.
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Loyolamom
Member
05-10-2005
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 6:46 pm
Why did Wylie (or whoever it was) have a zero for their weightloss? Did he not lose any weight at all? TIA!
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 6:55 pm
Adrian wins the weigh-in. Wiley doesn't lose weight but he worked hard. He is joined by Marty who lost 8 lbs. Eric has lost 100ibs so far! Looks like Marty's going bye bye even though Wiley's going to excel next week. and the loser is.....Marty
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Nerovh
Member
06-11-2005
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 7:24 pm
OK, I hope it's ok to post this now. For whoever missed the show: The prize at the challenge was immunity. The challenge was to ride stationary bikes that were up on raised platforms about 30 feet in the air. For every 2 miles that they biked, a contestant got to send another contestant's platform down 10 feet. After being lowered 3 times, a contestant would hit the ground and be out. Adrian threw a fit and started crying because she said the challenge wasn't fair. They all knew who would be chosen to be lowered first: her and Jaron. She said that it was like having 2 people against 5 because the others would gang up on the newbies. She had a valid point, but she handled it badly. She was right, of course, and she and Jaron were picked off first. Kai ended up winning immunity. Then at the weigh-in, Marty and Wylie ended up being below the yellow line. Adrian actually won the weigh-in, with the highest percentage. Marty lost 8 pounds, but was still below the line. Wylie lost 0 pounds, possibly because he over-trained this week. At elimination, Jaron and Adrian voted out Marty, while Heather and Kai voted out Wylie. Erik was the tie-breaker and he voted out his "friend" Marty. Basically, I disliked everyone on the show tonight except Marty, and he's gone now. He did look completely amazing when they showed how he looks now. For some reason I was REALLY disappointed in Erik for voting out Marty, even though Marty probably was the biggest competition.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 8:06 pm
It was absolutely wonderful and inspiring to see Marty with his students when he returned home and what he has accomplished since then! Having said that, I completely agree with Adrian and I'm so glad that she called them out on that challenge. It clearly favored the people who had been at the ranch as it was obvious that they would gang up against the newcomers. It was a completely unlevel playing field. What is the point of asking Adrian and Jaron to compete in a competition that they clearly have absolutely no chance of winning? I don't understand how they combine popularity with the goal of weight loss. To me it is too much of a game and there is too much emphasis on strategy and not enough on personal effort and achievement.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 8:20 pm
Thanks for the spoiling Nerovh. I assumed the show would be on at its old time, and I missed it! I'm such a dodo head sometimes!
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 8:48 pm
I agree that Adrian was right, but she could have been a little more diplomatic about it. It was a challenge slanted towards the ranchers and everybody knew it. Then we get to hear Kai and Heather's wonderful take on it...blech. I just want to tell them to shut up sometimes. And as predicted, they did exactly what everybody knew they would. Jaron and Adrian were the first out. Surprise...I wonder what they said or promised to Adrian to get her to do the challenge. Then the weigh-in...I'm really glad Adrian and Jaron stayed above the yellow line. Unhappy that Kai won immunity and since Heather gained 4 pounds last weigh-in, she had herself set up to lose 7 this week. Kai could have been below the yellow line. Damn those 12 miles! Did I hear right? There would be a final 4? I thought in past seasons it was only the top 3 that went to the Finale...
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:19 pm
It sounds like an expose the pecking order type of competition which we all knew would put Adrian and Jaron on the bottom rungs. I guess its a good thing that you can semi-control your own destiny in this game by making sure you do whatever you have to to lose the most. In that perspective, possibly Adrian and Jaron have an advantage as they have not had a trainer and have worked out as they saw fit; whereas, the trainers have made sure the in-house contestants have worked out all over. I'm just theorizing here that possibly Adrian and Jaron have some untapped areas where they can build some good fat burning muscle and the in-house folk have already used that resource. Does that make sense?
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:27 pm
Adrian has to win immunity or stay above the yellow line for the rest of the season to stay in the running. Those girls are going to gang up to get rid of the guys, then pick off Adrian if a guy isn't available to vote off. Both Adrian & Jaron did not do much weight training so may have lost muscle as well as fat during their home training. And Jaron's food record review in last weeks episode reminded me of someone with an eating disorder. Men can have ED and it often starts with weight loss attempts. 'squeek'
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:36 pm
Makes perfect sense to me, Chilli. I wonder, Kona, if that's why Bob was so put out while discussing it with him. Maybe Bob knew something was up. I wanted to add that Marty looked awesome! You would never guess that was the same guy. Good for Erik making the 100 club.
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Regee
Member
10-09-2005
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:46 pm
I didn't know that last week was a 2 hour one so I missed Jaron's eating/weight lost thing, could someone tell me why it appeared that Jaron had an eating disorder? TIA
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:49 pm
Maybe we'll get lucky and Adrian and Jaron will wise up to the girl's tricks and make an alliance with the boys that are left. Win win any way I look at it. At least those two women will be gone. I'm just hoping that not having a trainer previously will pay off big time for the newcomers now.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 9:54 pm
Regee...Bob was trying to talk to him about it and Jaron was stuck on "well, it works for me. I'm gonna keep doing it." and wouldn't let Bob talk to him about trying different things and stuff. I can't remember word for word how it went...but Bob seemed a bit mystified by it. Now that Kona said what she did...maybe something might have clicked in Bob's head.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 10:03 pm
Well, you can't really blame Jaron too much. When you are or have been really fat and are now losing weight, it would be very difficult to change whatever you are doing that is working even though it may be healthier for you to do so. On the other hand, Bob is there to help him and is an expert in this field. Hopefully, he'll learn to trust him enough to learn the healthier method.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:40 pm
Do you guys remember, back in the day, when this show used to be inspiring? Man, those days are over. <100> Personally, I watch, not to see who gets voted out, but to see who makes an ass of themselves each week. I feel so, so, so bad for Bob. Between the hissy fits, the cattiness and the water loading it's just all so...ugly. And don't even get me started on Kim. She has more freaking issues than the cast. In every episode she whines. Tonight: "I have to train FIVE people! Bob only has TWO." Shut up, Kim. Personally, I think the people who do get voted out are the lucky ones. Look how so many of them have thrived once they get home. Marty looked like a completely different person when they showed his "after" clip. He's, like, the third or fourth person who has changed so dramatically.
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Chiliwilli
Member
09-04-2006
| Wednesday, November 15, 2006 - 11:48 pm
Exactly! That's why I hope one of the newbies wins.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 1:08 am
I wonder how the female trainer ended up with both of the newcomers? Marty does look amazing, huh? If they have a final four the will be better for those who left sooner because the final ones don't compete for that other prize, assuming they have that this season.
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 5:42 am
thanks for the updates everyone. Sounds like I missed a good show! The newbies may have a disadvantage. They have not built up muscle which weighs more than fat. So with weight training now, they are going to hit a wall where they may lose weight but gain muscle so it won't show on the scales.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 8:03 am
hehehe, a pound of muscle does not weigh more than a pound of fat..... But that is my concern for Jaron - he's gonna start the muscle building phase and hit a plateau on the scale. Unless he's still eating a starvation level diet (less calories than his resting metabolic rate - can't build muscle on that low of calories). In a race for weight loss, this method might work (RABBIT), but for long term maintenance, you gotta build muscle up because everyone's resting metabolic rate goes down with the weight loss, so Marty is going to do well (TORTOISE). Current evidence from the National Weight Control Registry shows that weight loss maintenance requires a low fat, high fiber, and minimum 60 min/day exercise (for some it's more exercise than they did during the weight loss phase). Of course, the weight loss phase for those in the NWCR are much different than for these folks in Biggest Loser. When do we get a "where are they now" for previous seasons? That will be the most telling. Fame can help be a motivator to keep up the healthy habits. Those who have fallen out of the public eye, hope they still have their motivation to keep it up.

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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 8:09 am
Are these weigh-ins done on a weekly basis? If so, how in heck can it be good for Erik to have lost 20 pounds one week and 11 the next? 31 pounds in two weeks, or is it longer in between the weigh-ins?
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Thursday, November 16, 2006 - 9:20 am
The weigh-ins are weekly. Eric gained 3lbs before he lost the 20. Kim was training both newbies because was an *** an chased Jaron away.
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