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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I assume it's the vegetarian group Viva! that she has been supporting for some time, based in the UK.

ETA: here's their website

http://www.viva.org.uk/

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Here's the link to a story from their website about the fees from DWTS:

http://www.viva.org.uk/mediareleases/pr2007/07-05mills.htm

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Bingo. And here is Viva's t-shirt from their website plus Heather wearing same in a TV appearance from Wednesday:




Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 12:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Hmm... interesting that:

1) After looking thru 10 pages of hits on "heather mills charity" I got nothing.

2) VIVA is not a charitable organization. Nor are they a non-profit.

She is a "patron of the animal campaigns group." If they ARE a charity, I can't seem to find reference on their Web site.

Sorry, I'm a vegetarian, but when I hear "charity" I think "good works." And possibly tax deductible. Yeah, VIVA promotes vegetarianism, which in turn saves animal lives, but misinformation and misrepresenting doesn't impress me.

Oh, I FINALLY found it. After digging thru every page... "Viva! is registered in England as a non-profit company number 4161147". Which, is different than a registered charity. Donations to registered charities are tax deductible; donations to a non-profit organization are not.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Well, such a group is not eligible to be a 'charity' in the UK, because they have stricter limitations on such things than they do in the US. Fighting for animal rights does not qualify. In the US, this organization would qualify as a charity under US law. So the wording does get a little complicated, since the word 'charity' does not mean the same thing in both countries.

As a nonprofit company, members are unable to take money out of the organization personally, or through dividends; and many nonprofit companies in the UK are doing good works, IMO. They just don't meet the narrower definition of charity which essentially is limited to companies that are religious, educational, reducing financial hardship, or are otherwise "benefitting the public". It would be hard for an animal rights group to qualify under those guidelines.

The sister organization (the Vegan foundation) is a charity, because it provides a public health and education function, which would more easily fall under those guidelines. They don't help the animals, can't do so under the guidelines, but they can educate people about vegetarian diets and the condition of animals in foodraising environs.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 4:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Media Release

08 March, 2007. For immediate release

Heather Mills to Donate Dancing Fees to Animal Campaigns
Heather Mills, patron of the animal campaigns group Viva!, is to appear in the US hit show Dancing with the Stars which begins its fourth season on Monday, March 19 at 8:00pm on ABC and CTV.

Based on the UK series Strictly Come Dancing, Heather will be partnered by professional dancer Jonathan Roberts and will have to prove her dancing metal against a string of US celebrities. They include a mixed bag of actors, singers, athletes, an Olympic gold medalist, a Miss USA and a boxer – a female boxer, Laila Ali, daughter of Muhammad Ali. Heather would only commit to the show because ABC agreed to sending Jonathan to the UK to train her at a studio just a few minutes from her home, so that she can be with her daughter. During the filming Beatrice is to holiday with her mother in the US.

Heather is donating the fees for each appearance on the show to her favourite campaigns group, Viva!. They will partly be used for a forthcoming campaign against the factory farming of pigs, including covert filming of pregnant sows held prisoner in farrowing crates - metal cages little bigger than their bodies. Ms Mills will also be personally involved in this campaign. She says:

“The last few months have not been good for me as my life has been on hold. But I love dancing and want to support Viva! in this important campaign to expose the appalling cruelty to which millions of pigs are subjected on British farms. Taking part in this show satisfies both desires. The show itself might also provide a bit of fun and a few laughs – things I’ve been missing for far too long”.

Juliet Gellatley, founder and director of Viva! and close friend of Heather Mills, who recently spent a week with her in Slovenia, says:

“This is an extraordinarily generous gesture by Heather, who is prepared to give not just money but also time and commitment to the things she believes in. When I read the seemingly endless negative reports about her in the Press I simply don’t recognize the person I know, like and trust. I’m sure she’ll do brilliantly in Dancing with the Stars because I’ve seen her partying and believe me, she’s a superb dancer and an equally good skier, so she has the rhythm, balance and athleticism necessary to triumph – not to mention the looks. I’m sure she can win it – which will be good for Heather and Viva!”

For more information or recent pictures of Heather and Juliet together or pictures of pig factory farming and the farrowing crate: contact jez@viva.org.uk.

It seems more like collecting money to fund their agenda, which of course is fine for anyone who wants to publicise conditions for pigs, or other animals, but would that really be considered a charity in the US? Is PETA a charity?

Of course wherever she wants to fling her money is fine and with the child support she gets, she can certainly do without the prize money. Most of the others would seem to me to be in pretty good positions financially. I'd guess Apolo can use some income more than most there.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, April 28, 2007 - 4:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Yes, PETA is a 501(3)(c) nonprofit organization, registered in the US. We do not have a legal use for the term 'charity' as they do in the UK. We have nonprofits as legal entities and charity is a casual common use term.

And yes, VIVA could register as a nonprofit corporation in the US also. if they chose to organize here.

That's why I said that the UK has very different rules that govern it's *charities*, yet this one can register as a nonprofit company - that is there are no shareholders and income produced by the company must stay in the company to fund their activities.

Of course, as in the US, each of these companies may have high administrative expenses and not spend so much on their actual cause, and should be reviewed on their own merits. I have no idea of the reporting requirements in the UK for nonprofits, but in the US, all companies registered as nonprofits must have open books and provide those financial statements as public record.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
"Mouthwash thing." What was that? I agree with Bruno.

Seattlemom
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05-10-2005

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Don't know if anyone caught the Early Show this morning, but they made a comment about Heather Mills doing reality shows and something about possibly doing the UK BB and they came back and said NO she wasn't going to be on that BB and Julie Chen Joked ( I hope)that maybe she will do our BB!! Oh My gosh Please No stars celebrities etc!!!

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Anything on tonight's show?

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
Billy Ray Cyrus is the Sanjaya Malakar of Dancing with the Stars.

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Does he have a pony-hawk?

Shel
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07-27-2005

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shel a private message Print Post    
Could it be a mullet-hawk? LOL. can't wait to watch tonight's ep tomorrow on my dvr...

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
Wow, Penpoint! That's the exact comment I made to a friend on the phone after the show tonight. Keeping Billy Ray in a dancing competition is similar to keeping Sanjaya in the singing competition. I know that his fans love him...but it is a dancing competition. ;)

Kc103
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07-13-2004

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I also felt that Apolo became the new Ian tonight. I didn't really get the harshness of their comments directed to Apolo and Julianne. I thought they did pretty darn good again tonight!

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
It's almost as if the judges have been reading our comments about their unjustified critiques of Ian. So they lauded his performances tonight -- and rightly so. But they shot their venom at Apolo instead. The silliest comments were Len's; for both Apolo's dances he really had nothing to criticize, so he basically holds Apolo to a different standard and said tonight's performances "just weren't great"!

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

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Laila is not my favorite -- just can't seem to warm up to her -- but her partner Maksim is definitely the best professional male dancer left in the competition.

By the way, Laila looked prettier than usual tonight.


Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I thought the same thing, that they were trying to make it up to Ian and gave him inflated scores and Apolo lower than he deserved.. Crazy.

I like Laila and she IS at disadvantage now, being the only amateur woman left.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Penpoint, Maksim is the ONLY professional male dancer remaining.

Beth4freedom
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10-24-2003

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beth4freedom a private message Print Post    
My order of ranking for tonight would have been Joey first, Laila second, Apolo third (or maybe tied for second), Ian fourth, John fifth, and Billy Ray sixth because of not really even trying the waltz.

I WAS glad to see Maxsim score three 10's. I think Laila and Max's dancing partnership is more balanced now, partly I think because Laila has taken some initiative in putting herself out there.

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Penpoint a private message Print Post    
Colordeagua, you noticed!

Loyolamom
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05-10-2005

Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Loyolamom a private message Print Post    
I have to admit that I am a total dork. I absolutely love watching Joey dance! I always find myself smiling while I'm watching him! I even found his sweater vest rather hot tonight:-)!

Glad to see Ian loosen up and have some fun. Good for him! BTW, that boy can wear a tux like nobody's business!

I didn't get the Apolo hate tonight! I thought he did a good job. I felt bad for Julianne and her wardrobe malfunction.

Laila was good tonight but there's just something about her that bugs me. It's something about her arms but I can't quite put my finger on it. She did look absolutely lovely though.

John's a sweetie and I enjoy watching him. I don't see him lasting past next week though if he makes it through this one.

Billy Ray, oye. Please let him go home this week!

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I'm really liking Laila and Apolo, and I hope they get to the end. Joey is starting to...I don't know...irritate seems too harsh. He's just seeming a bit overrated at this point, at least in my eyes. There's no way that jive was the best dance he's done, as one of the judges claimed. He's coming across as a bit cocky to me as well.

Len needed to be reminded that there was no reason to hold Apolo to a higher standard since he had no dance background, unlike Joey. If memory serves me, he gave Apolo the same score for his foxtrot that he gave Ratzenberger's rhumba. That's just wrong.

Fun seeing the 90210 reunion. Ian was better this week. That mouthwash move was a bit odd, but it made Carrie Ann happy.

I was surprised nobody got blasted for breaking the hold during the foxtrot, as they made such a big deal out of that with Ashley and Joey in the first season.

Billy Ray needs to go, but his explanation for that waltz was so sweet. He must've really believed this was their last week.

Did I see a couple of Charlie's Angels in the audience?

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 4:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
First time watching the show this season and I loved Laila, also liked Apollo.

looking for John and Billy Ray as bottom two.

Lateeda
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12-01-2006

Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 4:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lateeda a private message Print Post    
I thought I saw Cheryl Ladd in the audience.
I only watched the first hour (had to flip over to Heroes!), so I saw each team's first dance only. It appears I missed quite a bit! Anyway, based on their first dances, I think it's awfully tight for the top 4 spots - Ian, Laila, Joey and Apolo...then there's John and BillyRay. Billy Ray should go next, and as much as I adore John and his personality, he should go after Billy Ray. AFter that, it is really anyone's game!