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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Saturday, October 07, 2006 - 4:05 pm
This is why I think what Madrid and Milan are doing ( ie no skinny models) is so important - this is a quote from Tim's FAQ: Alison's model is PLUS SIZE??? Is it numerically literal now? Is anything over size 0 plus now? Posted by:MelonDrama Well, you’re close. Alison’s model Alexandra is probably a 6. Regrettably, it puts her in the “plus size” end of the runway equation. I called her “zaftig,” tim's blog at Cdbga's site
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 8:45 am
I doubt seriously if Keith wanted to leave the producers would have tied him up to prevent from leaving. In his FIRST conversation about leaving, he went to an internet cafe and just emails. In his SECOND conversation about leaving, he said the producer just told him to go. In his FIRST conversation about the books he denied that it was against the rules. After being told by all the contestants that it was in the contract he then said, well the producers gave them back to him. I tend to doubt conspiracy theories when the person conspired against, changes his story constantly. What purpose would it serve the producers to set someone up? It wasn't all that good of tv, the ratings didn't increase dramatically because of it, and if it was true, they could jeopardize the whole show.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 10:52 am
If he said to a producer, I'm mad and I'm going to leave, in my opinion it's possible that someone said, "Well, there's the door." Meaning, you know what the rules are, but you're a person and if you want to leave so badly (and thus break the rules), go ahead. Still makes it HIS fault, and not the production person's. And I don't believe his story about the books being taken away and then given back because in the 3-4 interviews I read with him right after the episode aired, he never once mentioned that. I doubt a cable network production would do that -- and then kick him off for rules transgressions -- the threat of a lawsuit is way way too high.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:02 am
I guess to me, it is just odd that he was allowed to break so many rules before being kicked off. If it is a rule that you can't leave and he leaves, why wasn't anything done at that time? I find it hard to believe he could have left without their knowing, so even though I doubt they were giving him actual permission, they knew about it and chose not to take any action (I would think that if there had been any action, we'd have heard about that). And as for the books, I also find it hard to believe he could get those in without anyone knowing. I absolutely believe he is in the wrong, I just wonder why he was allowed to get away with as much as he seemingly did. If Kayne and the others had not taken it to the producers, would anything have been done? I just don't believe that in that environment, you could hide having the books...you have cameras and personnel around all the time. That's what I think is strange.
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Grooch
Member
06-16-2006
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:05 am
Cdbga, I might be mistaken, but I think he left right after the other designors found the books. He said things were getting to hot in there, so he wanted to leave. So the two things happened at the same time. And then the producers dealt w/ it.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:42 am
Yes, that was my understanding too Grooch. Yankee, that's exactly how I think the leaving scenario went down.
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Yankee_in_ca
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 11:45 am
Me too, Grooch. I think it all happened in the same day. The other designers were in a lather over the books, and during this they had all been taken to do a promotional photo shoot - which also included some people who had already been kicked off (Katherine I remember for sure was there and Tim Gunn said in his podcast that she was REALLY mad that she was "gone" and he was still there, when he had the books.) That's where Keith disappeared/took off from. Tim also said on his podcast that while this was all happening, they were "caucusing" (ha) with the Bravo legal team on what they should/could do. They had never had a situation like this before, and needed to make sure what they were doing was legal and fair and just. Trust me, the last thing they want is a lawsuit.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 12:23 pm
Keith should have said I made a mistake and left it at that....after what he said at reuinion he image is tarnished even more
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 12:26 pm
Well that would make sense. On that episode, Tim had made reference to the other issues with him leaving and I didn't realize they weren't separate issues. I do still find it hard to believe that he was able to "sneak" in the illegal books, but at least the other makes more sense. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, October 08, 2006 - 1:11 pm
Pamy, that was my reaction. He seemed much more 'tarnished' after his babbling at the reunion than he did over being kicked off the show. I do so very much love when he said that it didn't say in his contract that he couldn't bring books and EVERYONE jumped in and said 'yes it did!' it's like i tell my kids, when you lie make sure your story can't be refuted by your friends! LOL
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Zummat
Member
01-31-2006
| Monday, October 09, 2006 - 4:45 pm
Keith got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and is trying to weasel out of it. I don't believe a word he said at the reunion. Pamy and Texannie I got the same impression that he would have come off much better if he didn’t try to lay blame somewhere else. I don’t feel a bit sorry for him.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Monday, October 09, 2006 - 4:59 pm
The commercials for the final show look interesting. Seems that Jeffrey is caught by Laura doing something against the rules or whatever. My favs in order: Laura, Michael, Uli, Jeffrey.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Monday, October 09, 2006 - 6:39 pm
I think Keith <100> has probably never taken responsibility for his own actions. My faves in order are: Laura, Uli, Michael, Jeffrey.
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 2:56 am
I debated with myself whether I should put Uli or Michael second. I think I'll change my mind to match my new best friend, Twinkie!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 3:39 am
My favs in order: Michael Uli Laura (still not quite over her treating that poor little dog like it was a lump of poo.) Notice I didn't list the 4th contestant. He doesn't even deserve last place on a fav list IMHO.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 10:12 am
Only 2 shows left. Sob. I think I'll just set the dvr to record the whole series in a day that they'll do before the last show on the 18th.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 5:58 pm
My favs in order: JEFFREY Michael Laura Uli

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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 6:08 pm
ALTHOUGH.....my opinions may totally change once I see the runway show! The first season I was all for Kara to win but I after I saw Jay's runway line....I LOVED IT!!! (even though I still didn't like HIM) So...what I'm trying to say is that...even though I may never really 'care' for Laura or Uli, if they have excellent clothing lines, I'll be 'all for' either of them winning. In the end, it's not about who you liked all along, it's about who can put together an 'off the hook' clothing line. If that is Uli, go girl. Hopefully my Jeffrey rocks it though!
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, October 10, 2006 - 6:45 pm
Awwww gee, Huk!!!! Thanks!!
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 2:34 pm
I cant stand Jeffrey's attitude being shown - and I'm not a fan of his clothes, so I figure he'll win!! ;) lol - I agree with Trueheart - - I hope Michael does better than his last dress - that didnt show too well on tv - but usually I like his designes, I also think Uli's are eclectic - and I like Laura, she designs more for the... "older" crowd - so I doubt if she has a chance - she should try and get Jeffrey auffed for his transgressions, but I'll bet it'll be all smoke, as the preview shows Tim gunn saying "how are you going to prove it?" and I'm sure you cant in a short amount of time... either way - I'm hooked!! 
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 2:41 pm
Is a new show on tonight?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 2:56 pm
Yep, part one of the two part finale.
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Trueheart
Member
09-12-2006
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 3:05 pm
YESSSSSS!!! IT'S ON TONIGHT PEOPLE!!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!! Squeak!!! LOL WHAT!?!?!?!? Part 1 of a 2 part finale? When will we see the other part? GRRRRR!!! *pouting*
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Lilliegirl
Member
09-09-2005
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 6:34 pm
What time tonight is part one.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, October 11, 2006 - 7:49 pm
Its on right now - that car Tim Gun had to visit Jeffery was HOT!! Michael had a white dress that was really cool looking, a white dress with a ribbon up the front, the collar stood up, then, when it came time to be in New York... HUH??? WHAT were you THINKIN?? Suddenly sequin pockets - and it was a tunic??? 4 POCKETS??? huh? but what do I know of fashion???
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