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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Honestly, most celebrities don't give a CRAP who is meeting and greeting them. Usually they work through their managers, so you'd be speaking to the celebrity THROUGH the manager. Most celebrities only ask for things through a person they know/trust, and THAT person speaks for the celebrity.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Ok last post until after the show (most likely). I'm gonna date myself here but I recall when the real game was played and the most of the guys didn't wear helmuts, and you could actually see who was who lolol. (in reference to someone's stunned comment early). Remember most of the the players out there, like Phil, played before helmuts. And who of that rag tag team has a hard enough shot to do any damage? lololol

BTW hehe too funny with that commercial timing. Ok back on. Bet Sean wins but think Lee should (if one of them has to win lol)

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Did Lenny compare Lee to a goat?

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
Lurk...maybe that's the difference between west coast/east coast...I've been around hockey (western style) all my life (no need to tell numbers), and the players out here have worn helmets as long as I can remember...the few who didn't were not shall we say the most attractive of the players....maybe we play sissy hockey out here

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Both Sean and Lee want to stay in nY vs Hawaii for the final assignment.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
could there be 2 winners?

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Sean won.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
and he wants to marry Tammy

Woofy
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08-09-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Woofy a private message Print Post    
I'll repeat what I said days ago. Maybe he won't hire either and will hire Rebecca from last time instead

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
i guess you probably have heard about this, but in case you didn't. trumps golf course in pacific palisades (the one he showed on tv) is completed. there is a big controversy w/pv residents. trump wants the street name changed to trump. !

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
"I'm the Apprentice, Baby" he says to a passing motorist who tooted him as they passed him driving his pontiac.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
thanks so much!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
WOOHOO!! I was very pleased w/the outcome! Lee was a good 2nd place guy -- and I wouldn't have been upset if he had won; I just wouldn't have been HAPPY! I think Sean was definitely the right choice.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
what ever happen to last year's winner? did they show what she is doing?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
They really didn't time this well. They had a lot of time left over.

Did anyone catch the big bear hug Lenny though on Carolyn? lol

Biscottiii
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05-30-2004

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Oh Whew!

Thanks for all the spoiling. Have my alarm set and can't wait to watch it now!

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Ketchup...GOLD not goat lolololol too damn funny!!!!

um Sea maybe you've had less life? lolol...trying to remember the year helmust were ruled in but they were grandfathered so those already signed had a choice of to wear or not to wear. Ironic I can tell you who was playing then not sure of the year. Sometime early 80's I'd guess....could go look up but too lazy didn't even eat dinner yet lol.

Well this show was pretty underwhelming IMHO. I felt that Sean's even was SO much better and better staged that made Lee's pale in comparison and that wasn't his fault.

BTW seeing Randall (who I used to like) annoyed me all over again. Guess he lost me for good!

Oh Abby I heard bout the golf course name...seems to me the town is being fair...he is calling it by a different town name then it's really in, and they said if he changes the name to the real town they'll let him use his name. Sounds reasonable.

Abby7
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07-17-2002

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Abby7 a private message Print Post    
oops, i meant palos verdes, not pacific palisades. sorry. (even that should be rancho pv i guess).

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Oh and Eeyore meant to say I both agree and disagree about your post about not meeting celebs and the agents. I can only base it on my experiences, but I would say there are 2 key factors at work...how big the star, and exactly what the event is. With, to some degree, who the star is.

While you almost always deal with another person to set up an appearance, often they will show up alone. Again depends on the event. But let me use this hockey event as an example. There is not meeting the celeb for butt kissing purposes and there is not meeting them to tell them what is expected of them and where to go. Most would be expecting and needing the latter not the former. And while I have no knowledge yet (but can find out lol) I would bet you that Michael J. Fox, a pretty big name, showed up for the game with his best friend Cam Neely NOT an agent or any people. Would bet real cash on that actually. Takers?

I'll give you guys a similar example from many moons ago. In running a charity hockey game I made a welcome packet beginning with a signed greeting note for every player (just like tonight we had former hockey players and celebs, but the difference being is we had Madison Sq. Garden and it was a BIG event). The packet contained a DETAILED schedule of where they had to be when, how to get there, where to go there, and more or less what to do. There also was a list of suggested restaurants and bars etc. And always important is a contact list so they could reach each other, but then again it was a bigger event than this. But what all celebs want is to not look stupid, which generally means you need someone to point them to the right place. Even if they had an entourage it would be same thing. Generally this is what the interns of the world do unless they are a MAJOR star and it is a major event where they are the sole name.

I did see some MAJOR missed opportunies btw...they should have had whoever the 2 biggest names were on the ice skate Jamie Presley over to the mike. Lacked all flash. But these are all promotional things and silly me thought the Apprentice folks were trying for financial business jobs. After all these year you think the show would decide lol. I never did get why the grand finale is always a promotional event that they, in theory, would never do. SHRUG.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 7:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - I agree with you Lurk that it is funny that they showcase them doing a job that they in theory will never do for Trump once they are hired.

But the thing is that it is a show and it would be pretty hard to build a 90 minute finale consisting of a couple of guys looking at spreadsheets and making real estate deals or managing a project. Truly managing a big project would take a lot more than two days as well. We might enjoy it but I doubt most viewers would find it entertaining and the logistics for the show would be tough.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I totally hear ya Jimmer BUT they could at least find some type of event that simulates a more business type one. Ok for example, how about given them each a high end open house where they have to figure out how to reach and sell to the appropriate people followed by an evening gala to offically open the property with benefit to charity? See what I mean? Work in some shred of business/real estate in the event. ITA some of it has to be TV BS...after all if we ever discussed ANY show without the requisite TV BS I think the shock might leave the majority of us crumped over our keyboards from said shock lolol. True?!!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Interesting points Lurk. I'm wondering if it many be different with athletes vs. musicians/actors.

My best friend is the dedicated manager of a MAJOR (and I mean major) pop star. Her artist doesn't deal with anyone, and really is quite self-involved (and I'm not saying that to insult the artist). My gf protects her artist from all the crap that the artist doesn't need to care about or bother with. It's hard enough for people to get through to my girlfriend, let alone the artist. Even if the artist was doing a thing like this, my gf would be dealing with all of it.

For another somewhat major pop artist (has had only a few #1 singles, and a couple of CDs), I went with my gf on a tour date. I spent the day pretty much following her around, and watched her do all the event stuff. The artist did sound check, and two meet & greets, where my gf just lined up the "winners" in a row in the arena, the artist walked along, shook hands, said an insincere hello, and moved to the next person. ALL of that stuff was done with the head person for the radio station that ran the meet & greet, and my gf as the manager. My gf laid out "you line your people up over here, a single row, and this is what will happen. Theyneed to know they are NOT allowed to take pictures, we will take one group shot, and we will give your station access to that print, to give to each winner."

Seriously, the artists my gf deals with are in a BUBBLE. Nobody would get through, unless it was pre-negotiated that the project managers should be seen with the artists.

In the years I've been friends with this gf of mine, I've become SOOOOO disillusioned with the music industry.

Zummat
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01-31-2006

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 8:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Zummat a private message Print Post    
Glad Sean won. Who knows, maybe Lee will be the first returning apprentice to the show. And Donald can pick another former apprentice candidate and each one can be on a team. Kinda like they did Survivor. I think Lee's downfall was who he chose to be on his team and why.

Thought it was also interesting that Donald didn't talk to either Allie or Roxanne even though they were one of the last four. I think their display in the boardroom didn't sit well with him.

Good luck to Sean.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
Actually Eeyore what you described was the classic "meet and greet." I've run those too and would agree the artist pretty much just shows up. But that is because they would serve no other role there. Also usually there are at least several different groups that have an interest in getting their people in. I'll give an example. I've done them for both radio stations and artists. Each of those will have a list of people they want in. Then there are those who have any ties locally, the record label, corporate sponsorships, and on and on. Everyone thinks they should get their folks in. Usually the artist has a set amount of time (generally 15-30 min) they can/will do this. If everyone on every list got in the artist would be there 3 hours. That is why they need someone like your gf there to set boundaries, and come a certain time call it over. That has a reason, which is very different than say showing up at a promotional party for charity to have star factor there.

But that said I can show how w/sports folks they do tend to be more easy going about it. I set up the remote for the Cerebral Palsy telethon one year. I had a bunch of Boston Bruins signing pucks, and others taking pics with fans. There were a handful of guys from other teams, but since I had such strong hockey contacts I was able to get a lot of em down there. The agreed to time was 1 hour. We were earning tons of money so after the hour I told the guys the time and I still remember Ray Borque looking up and saying, "well I still see a line' then winking at the other guys then me. They stayed I think it was 3 and a half hours. To this day I'm proud to say it was the most money earned for CP in any remote function that year! Sports guys always seem to go the extra mile, even when camera's aren't there, which is one of the reason I have always loved working with them!

Anyway, back to the main topic. I think it just totally varies as to the event. Of course in fairness some in the music biz, especially pop music are far more pampered. But in most of my dealings unless someone is a MAJOR star (and even some of them choose not to function that way), most aren't that way unless the situation necessitates it, ie a meet or greet. I also worked with a female singer in Nashville who at the time was both CMA entertainer and female artist of the year, and she had a list of about 3 things she wanted in her dressing room. She rented a limo for shows and such, but her main "car" that drove her around Nashville (and that she sent for folks, I know as it hauled my butt from the airport several times lol) was just a plain SUV...not even customized lol.

She wasn't "handled" the majority of the time, BUT when she showed up for things be they meet or greets or sound checks etc, her job there was just to either sing a song or sign autographs not to set stuff up. So think we also have to separate handling from when it's someone else's job to have a function set up. But say there was a party after the show. There was no one "handling" her there. I'm tired hope I am being clear bout the difference in situations.

Of course in the sick world today sadly many in the public eye have to be security conscious and there may often be someone there for that. But I think that is far often less of a preference and more of a sad reality forced on some of these folks.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 05, 2006 - 9:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
oh btw just reread my post and for those that don't know me well I wanted to be super clear I ONLY name/position dropped to make my point. I truthfully don't think it's any sign of anything special and I am sooo not bragging at all. Did kinda make me miss the fun of doing that stuff though, versus sitting around focusing on a back that doesn't want to move SIGH . But yegads I don't want to come across the wrong way so please don't anyone read anything into it that SURE isn't there!