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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 6:17 pm
Can you imagine if Dilana was 'honest' about what happened backstage to the wrong person. I really believe that the guys will take this into consideration. Last year, when a similar issue arose with JD, the 'house' took "care of it" after the show. JD was knocked down a peg and more considerate of his fellow contestants. You could see a change in him from that point on. We'll see if anything happens in the house after this show. I miss last year when it exciting to see what JD, Marty and the Aussie would do from week to week. (sorry, can't remember his name) While I watch this year, I just don't really care as much about the contestants like last year.
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 6:32 pm
Bonza, this situation reminded me of last season with JD too. He really rubbed people the wrong way. He would have had much more support if he hadn't acted like such an (insert any word) sometimes IMO. INXS certainly is more conservative than Supernova and they got past all the dumb stuff JD did. Even though I don't agree with how she acted, I can't really see that this has hurt Dilana's chances.
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 6:38 pm
Kookliebird, his name was MiG. I miss them, too. I liked Jordis sometimes and Suzie McNeil. I don't care as much for these contestants or for the band. The house band still rocks, though!
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 6:41 pm
Sorry Kooklie I didn't see your post. You made a good point about JD. Let's see how Dilana acts from here on out.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, August 24, 2006 - 7:22 pm
I think INXS went with JD because by the end it was clear that he was the only one who REALLY was a fit musically. His comments put him out of favor for much of the comp though. I suppose if Dilana were the one clear choice musically for SN and they just couldn't see anyone else, she would probably get the gig, but imho that isn't the case here. I also suspect that INXS felt that JD seemed malleable enough to 'mold' and 'manage.' Dilana is very strong though and very much her own person. I can see the SN boys being afraid of that, esp if they feel they can't trust her (and I bet they have a lack of trust of women to begin with) Also JD's comments were more along the lines of being boastful from what I can remember. Dilana sold out all of her housemates individually, to 'the press' -- ouch. Can't get much worse than that. Imagine having a falling out with her.... I'm sure the band has.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 2:24 am
I truly don't believe that SN will hold it against her. I don't know about the other guys, but Tommy Lee sure has screwed up in front of the press. She may be 'older' but she is not experienced at all with the media. I don't think that if any of them had screwed up, short of saying that SN was a no talent joke, that the guys would hold it against any of them.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 3:39 am
I'm not sure what Tommy (or Dave or the others for that matter) have done in front of the press exactly but there are different kind of 'screw ups.' Dilana knew what she was doing when she sold her housemates out. She said in an aside she was 'competing' - she knew she was playing dirty. She wasn't some innocent babe who fell into the trap of the media. The others had the same opportunity and they made a different choice - Ryan for example said that Dilana had the edge in the competition because she is 'extraordinary.' Who would you rather 'hire?' Regardless of how the SN guys have behaved in the media themselves, I highly doubt they want someone so willing to trash others reputations because it suits them. Easy for Dave to be diplomatic and forgiving since he won't be working with her. Frankly I think SN has been looking for reasons not to choose Dilana because they don't really want a woman. Its just a sense I've gotten from observing. They got their first reason with her songwriting and now they have this. Could be wrong - jmho 
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 4:24 am
Supernova lawsuit http://www.vh1.com/news/articles/1538392/20060811/supernova_california_.jhtml?headlines=true
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Jan
Moderator
08-01-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 8:26 am
Dave's blog today (BTW he is in Toronto right now) As for the conspiracy theories on Rockstar, I find them very amusing and entertaining, but I can assure you that no such devices have been embedded in the show. There is so much work that goes into doing just one show with rehearsals, camera blocking, performances, song selection and all that there isn't even time to consider injecting a conspiracy. Frankly, we went through all this last season. I remember how pissed off so many people were because they were convinced that it was all rigged so that Mig would win. Like, people got really angry at me, the show and all of our producers. In fact, I even got hate mail and flamed over it quite a bit. So to those who are suggesting the same types of ideas this season, all I can say is... Settle down. This is all as real as it gets. I have no idea who is going to take this thing and I don't want to know. I enjoy finding out who is going home along with the live audience in the studio from week to week. On Sunday, I am going to try to say something about Dilana owning up to her mistakes before the performances, much like I posted here yesterday. As for her "range"... A lot of people are on me because they feel she has no range. I totally disagree, but even still, I can't help think about Lou Reed's range or even Mick Jagger's. Not a whole lot of range going on there either, however, Mick is arguably one of rock's most compelling front men. I, like you, have only heard two Supernova songs and it is hard for me to know exactly what it is they require vocally, but I do know that on the songs they have done, Dilana did very well vocally with hers and Toby killed it on his. I am personally looking forward to hearing Ryan and Lukas on a Supernova track. I was wrong last week about song selection. THIS is the week that they are doing songs selected by the online community votes. Perhaps we will find ourselves with better song choices and more enlightening performances as a result. At this point, all the remaining contestants are pretty strong and I have no idea who might go. My best guess would be either Toby or Storm, but only because I don't see them in the top three at any time soon unless they really pull off something special this week. The bottom three this week will be half of the cast no matter what. It is really heating up! I know that we keep asking for that incredible moment during a performance. Know that we don't expect a singer to be doing backflips throughout a show, we just want to know that the ability to pull it out when necessary is in them
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Tuzza
Member
08-19-2005
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 9:01 am
I love his honesty
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:25 am
<rant>Can I just say how much I hate Web sites that are all Flash. I wish rockstar.msn.com hadn't revamped their site. Regardless of whether you have a high-speed connection, the rest of the site is so difficult to navigate thru, too.</rant> I still think Dilana is a front runner. I think Supernova could think "no one will think we'll pick a woman" but I think she's a better fit than most of the others. Anyone know if that "press clinic" was a *real* press junket? Or was it just a "clinic" where they would kinda "role play" being interviewed? Have any real interviews come out based on that clinic?
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 10:42 am
I thought it was just role playing, but obviously they were recorded for SN
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 11:16 am
Dave said it was just a clinic, but obviously, the results were shown to the potential employer. I love Dave!!! have I mentioned that? LOL I agree about the flash on the site too.
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Realnut
Member
07-06-2006
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 9:17 pm
has anyone posted what songs they want the contestants to sing.
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Realnut
Member
07-06-2006
| Friday, August 25, 2006 - 9:18 pm
has anyone been voting on what songs they want everyone to sing this week?
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 1:08 am
My friend Michael Butler interview Zayra for his Rock and Roll Geek Show podcast. I have to admit, she's actually a smarter and cooler girl than I thought she was going be.
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Spinnaker
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 6:27 am
Jordis and Marty... Jordis Unga follows up her May solo gig at the Quest with an outdoor gig Friday at Renegades Bar and Grill in Burnsville. If that Quest show was any indication, she'll play some old Fighting Tongs stuff, some of her famous covers from "Rock Star: INXS" and some new material from her long-awaited solo debut album. Her performance is part of a two-day "tent party," with Cheap Trick headlining Saturday night. Unga's former television competitor Marty Casey is back in town, too, for a gig tonight at the Varsity with his band the Lovehammers. http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/columnists/15342381.htm
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Spinnaker
Member
07-07-2005
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 6:58 am
I agree with comments regarding JD and INXS - there was no doubt he was the right fit and that was apparent about halfway through the competition. With SN, my theory is that they have to show that a woman has a chance - or the Rockstar format will lose creditability. So I do think Dilana and Storm will stick around for a while, maybe even the final 3 or 4. As much as Lucas grates on my nerves, if they truly want a hard rock band, he is clearly the best fit for this band, the most out-there rocker, very heavy; a real character (I said A real character, not real character). I think that is why Jason is pushing him so hard, to have him grow into a real singer, not just a rocker. But IMHO, this is going to be a publicity driven band of characters, highly merchandized, like Spice Girls or Pussycat Dolls or most of the boy bands around, but in the rock genre. It will be interesting to see if it works. If Toby leads it, it will be more pop-rock, 80s retro style. OK for Tommy but would be a waste for Gilby and Jason. If Magni leads it, it will fizzle and tank. Not the right story there, not enough "wow". If Ryan leads it, it will be a much more talented group, greater musicality - they will likely have some hits. I haven't been a big Ryan fan but his song writing skills and his ability to create those performance "moments" should pay off. But again, if the producers control the outcome, we'll likely see Dilana or Storm getting much more positive airtime. After all, look at the American idol success and the boy-girl annual pong. Same producers and if the formula fits...
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 7:38 am
Spin, you had me up until: Same producers and if the formula fits... This show is produced by Mark Burnett--the guy who does Survivor. He is not the producer of American Idol.
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Tuzza
Member
08-19-2005
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 7:44 am
I agree with most of it but who the best fit is. I am not even a huge fan of hers anymore but I think that Dilana has the best fit for this band, age, look, and sound. I think Lucas is too young for this band. I didn't notice it on INXS but it really stands out to me on SN.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 10:41 am
I thought Lukas and Dilana were 2 years apart (29 & 31)??
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:08 am
I think we may see a Dilana/Ryan final. I'm sure a lot of people would be disappointed to see Dilana lose. If SN perceives her fan base to be substantially stronger they may be inclined to go with her for that reason... but I still think they totally prefer Ryan. Ryan is continuing to impress and gain momentum while Dilana is losing some of her luster. One huge factor Ryan has in his favor I think is his extreme versitality - the way he is always changing things up (usually in a good way) and keeping it interesting. Dilana's performances are beginning to feel predictable, imo. Her last one was pretty uninspiring. My prediction is that SN will offer Dilana the job of opening for them on tour, like INXS did with Marty last year.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:12 am
I thought this was interesting..this article was posted earlier in this thread (I was trying to find out Dilana's & Lucas' ages..my daughter thinks she looks 50! asked her 'she looks older than ME?? and she said yes! LOL) anyway..wonder if this is foreshadowing Tommy Lee Hopes 'Rock Star' Finds Dangerous, Scary Singer 04.20.2006 6:00 AM EDT 'Why is it that hot chicks never can sing?' drummer wonders on search for Supernova vocalist. Wanted: someone who can sing, scream and scare Tommy Lee. That's what it takes to be the lead singer of Supernova, the drummer's new all-star band with Gilby Clarke and Jason Newsted — a job that will be filled during the course of the summer TV show "Rock Star." "The singer, the ringleader, should be a little dangerous, a little scary, like we're not sure if he's going to make it through the show," said Mötley Crüe's Lee. "You know, there's something exciting about that someone with something to say, somebody who is elusive and weird and strange. That's what brings you back." "They have to be able to go out there, arms flailing, and then jump back and get the hell out of the way," said Newsted, formerly of Metallica. "When I go by flying, spitting sweat and blood, they have to be able to hang with that. If I'm screaming in their ear right before they sing, they better sing on time. It's few and far between that can stand next to us and do that thing." ../156/3507661.html"#DEE7EF"> | Tuzza
Member
08-19-2005
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 11:31 am
I should state, I don't honestly know either of their ages. She does LOOK older and he younger, which is not fair, but just something about the two of them. For me personally, I have thought since the beginning, that she just fits the band better than him. She is losing steam with me, but I still think she just looks right with the band.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 12:12 pm
I agree that Dilana does look significantly older than Lukas (I would've guessed he was 26 and she was 36??) And I agree that Dilana looks and sounds awesome with SN
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