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Tishala
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08-01-2000

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
So I watched the racap last night while I flipped back and forth between that and the comeback of the fabulous Martina Hingis at the Australian Open. I thought the woman with the long legs--the wrestler--ws actually a cadaver [or one of those blow up dolls they sell at porn stores] until she started "choking" her partner. The one with the poufy hair has really distracting lips. They look duck-like.

I love love love that they called P "controversial." Is that a new euphemism for inept? In that case, they should call George Hamilton "the controversial George Hamilton." LOL.

Now that Giselle is gone, she can go back to the Island in Fiji her husband bought her after they got married. "Don't cry for me, Fiji Island...." Let out your inner Rosarita or something.

Tia was fabulousissimo! And she looked ravishing.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Stacy had a "pasted on" face. Yet, I tried to further pinpoint what was wrong about it. In watching recaps last night, it looked like so often she was looking up. At what? Why should the woman in this "role" in the dance be looking up? And a blond in this particular dance?! I think dark hair helps as is more appropriate.

Hypermom
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08-13-2001

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hypermom a private message Print Post    
Lisa's lips have always been that way. I think they are natural.

Love watching George "perform." lol

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 10:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
they have had collagen injections for more than 20 years. she may have had them done years ago. they don't look natural, but neither do angelina jolie's (to me) and hers are supposedly natural, too.

if master p doesn't get with the program and wear the dancing shoes and lose the hat, it will just make it more obvious this is a popularity contest.
i never even heard of him before this show and he thinks he is so "all that", he can make his own rules? he'd probably wear those orthopedic clodhoppers on a professional basketball floor, too! there are 'rules of etiquette' for many sports, and i don't like feeling master p is thumbing his nose by not going by them.
he is inflexible in his dress, in his dancing and in his attitude.
and he can totally afford george's 'hood' now!

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
Misspouf....Great to see someone bring up one of my all time favorite movies since I was knee-high to a grasshopper: "Where the Boys Are." I used to swoon over that movie every spring break! What a great mix of characters. Sure, I wouldn't have minded being Merit. Of course I always found myself a little attracted to the quirkiness (humor) of Jim Hutton's "TV" character too. Wow, thanks for providing a great spring flashback on a cold, snowy day here. Sorry for the off-topic here, but I love that movie and couldn't believe someone else mentioned it on here.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
I thought the lip thing was settled by the poster who showed us all the pictures of Lisa over the years. It was earlier in the thread. It's clear from the photographs of her when she was much younger than her lips have been enhanced. Not that there's anything wrong with that, mind you. But the photographs do not lie.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Bonza's post, in this thread, on January 16 at 10:11 pm shows the progression of Lisa and her lips. Definately enhanced.

Angelina's are real. You can see them in photos of her as a child. Her brother has them too.

I am just going to settle in and see how long P's fans can keep him in. I expect to see the judges give him 3's next week to counter the fan votes. There is really nothing else to do. It may create a change in the judging if this goes another season.

Jagger
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08-07-2002

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jagger a private message Print Post    
This show is turning into a joke, well at least the scoring part is. But it is expected anytime you let the fans vote for who they like vs who did the best job. It turns into a popularity contest. I'm just wondering how popular some of these people really are.

I really liked the one that got booted last night, for a middle aged lady she moved very well, and seemed to connect nicely with her partner.

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 6:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
PBS is having an American Ballroom Challenge Feb. 1st and 8th at 8 pm hosted by Marilu Henner.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/ballroomchallenge/

It will be fun to see the professionals compete.

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelb724 a private message Print Post    
yeah! PBS hasn't had anything ballroom on in a long time. they used to do it at least 2 times a year--during fundraisers. and has anyone ever seen "burn the floor"? that is amazing. it was a tour of ballroom dancers who did a lot of different dances, both ballroom and latin, and it was held on something that could have been used for ice skating, although obviously it wasn't, it was a regular dance floor. then they decided to make it more like a stage show and it died. but i am so looking forward to it being back on PBS again.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
I thought the judges scores influenced the potential for a boot (i.e. combine the judges score with the phone in votes in some fashion).

If not, then why bother with scoring? Maybe the judges score should weigh more heavily??

'squeek'

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
In the past the judges' scores have been inconsistent and questionable, so I wouldn't want to put more weight on them (not unless they replaced Inaba and Bruno with 2 real ballroom judges). I'd just prefer they let us vote to eliminate rather than save. Many more people will agree on who's the worst than on who's the best.

Nickovtyme, I don't watch AI. I never have. Probably never will. The kids on AI are unknowns, so any fans they get are responding to their performance on the show. A battle between fan clubs was not the premise of this show. This show was not supposed to be about who's the most popular celebrity, but who's the favorite dancer. If I want to know who is more popular out of a list of celebrities, I'll just take a poll rather than waste hours of airtime with dance numbers that mean nothing.

Let the fan clubs battle it out in some other arena, if anybody really cares who's more popular out of ten random B-list celebrities. Who really cares if P is more popular than Giselle? This show is about who we want to watch dance every week. If people adore P, great. They can show it by sending him fan mail or money, or by bumping him up to the A list. They don't have to inflict his dancing on us.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
Curlyq - You've got that right! That was one objection that I had - that they used the same judges from last season - who clearly were NOT objective or able to be consistent in their scoring. (Remember the 3 x 10's for Kelly's last & crumbiest dance, even given that it was minus the 'wardrobe malfunction'?

Frankly, I think (viewing last season as well as this season) that woman judge Inaba is a misogynist in sheep's clothing. She always has the snarkiest comments and the lowest scores reserved for the female dancers - no matter how well they perform.

Loved Giselle's 'goodbye to the MEAN judges' comment too. Wonder if the judges are starting to get the fact that better performers are being given the 'boot' while P remains? Maybe that might boost the judges urges to start judging more fairly.

Betcha "P" ends up winning this whole thing - whether he can dance or not! I think ABC has already decided who the winner is, like their ABC soap opera star was destined to win last season. Notice how they never show what the audience scores are?

After all, controversy creates larger audiences and more commercial $buckeroos$ than quality dancing. Thanks for the PBS info, it will be fun to see some fair judging. JMO, Bisc

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
BTW, can someone shed some light on some questions I have?

Remember, how Len Goodman the older judge told 'P' a couple of weeks ago (Week-1) to get dancing shoes and dress the part? That P wouldn't play basketball in dance shoes, why would he wear these shoes to dance, or something like that?

I have no doubt THAT is precisely WHY on Week-3 (and better dancers have gotten "the Gong"), Goodman told P that he believed P and the show should part company - - - but THEN AGAIN AFTER THAT, Goodman gives P a 4-pt rating (Why so high?). P insists on wearing the clunky shoes, baggy pants (it's amazing Ashly hasn't ripped her face on his hanging zipper by this point) - basically doing "raspberries" to the show, while expecting his homies to beef up his scores. IF P has need of orthopedic shoes, fine! Say So! I have no doubt they would cut him some slack since P is a substitute after all.

Last week when they (Ashly & P) did the basketball "setup" it looked like (yep, I even rewound and saw it again!) P was wearing glossy patent leather shoes on the basketball court. Ashly made some comment like "wow, why don't you move this fast on the dance floor?"

Question: Did anyone else notice the patent leather pumps? Were they the former dance pumps Ashly had presented him? Or were they orthopedic patent leather pumps, glossed up to look like the former ones? (Previously, I thought I saw one point where P was smirking & holding the shiny shoes, but couldn't find that part again without watching the whole show over.)

Then, when P did his thumping slow jive on the dance floor, it looked like he was back to wearing his dull "lucky" topped clunkers. And THAT's why last Thursday, I believe the judge told P 'you and this contest need to part company'. P is not trying to dance, he's just making an agenda about his hood and his homeys and the judge could see it right there when he danced clunky again. If P doesn't want to be part of the show, then make the exit already.

Friday's Rap Dance shot, further indicated to ME that ABC has already chosen Master P to be the winner. I don't think I'll bother voting much in the future, will just keep reminding myself that it's merely entertainment. You can already tell by last season's Professional Dancers' body language, half-smiles, and shrugs that they know it's a setup, but they have to appear like team players or they won't get called back for another show. The professionals clearly aren't surprised when the better dancers have worked so hard and are hitting the exit door early. Bisc

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
I have no natural eye to what makes a good dancer. I go only by what looks good to me and makes me feel good. P needs to at the least, wear the dance shoes. My fave in this, to this point is Lisa and I will vote for her.

I have stated that I think it's time for P to go. I, vehemently agree, that P is floating by means of the fan base. I would have much rather seen him go than Giselle. Heck. Giselle is much prettier.

My only argument was that P had the bigger fan base and will keep him around if the judges piss them off.

If P get's "3's" next week and they treat him with some respect...he won't be around for another go.

It's not the fact that P can dance that is keeping him in...its the fact that his fans are pissed that he is getting no respect.

Biscottiii
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05-29-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Biscottiii a private message Print Post    
He doesn't WANT no respect. That's why I figure he's merely pushing his own agenda. Bisc

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Saturday, January 21, 2006 - 10:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
No, I think he wants respect...not as a dancer, but respect that he's trying. The judges, begrudge him that and his fans want more.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
Biscottiii, I noticed the shoes on the basketball court too, and I mentioned it to my sister, I don't get the whole thing. Perhaps if people refused to watch until this farce is handled properly, maybe ABC would get the hint. It is boring and irritating to know that no matter how bad P does - they can't get him out.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
As much as I dislike his dancing, I was LOL at George and P -- they definitely had entertainment value on the "chit chat" stuff. :-)

Katiebug41800
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01-22-2006

Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 11:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Katiebug41800 a private message Print Post    
Wouldn't you think that the judges should be able to mark P down DRAMATICALLY for attire. I mean they mark people down because they don't have the proper facial expression. For pete's sake, if one of those girls came out there in orthopedic flats and jeans or something they'd throw a fit...but because he's "Master P" he's allowed to get away with it?

I think he should be allowed to put a LITTLE of his own personality into his look as long as it falls under the basic ballroom dance guidelines. Wearing proper shoes is a key element of this "sport." And he doesn't even have a good reason for refusing to wear proper dance shoes. He stated early in the show that they were from his line of "Master P shoes" or something - so it's a promotional thing.

I guess the producers are loving this}. They're probably telling him to keep it up! I mean, here we are... we're all talking about it - controversy creates excitement and that equals ratings.

Katiebug41800
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01-22-2006

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Katiebug41800 a private message Print Post    
Yep, I was right. He does have a line of athletic shoes that he's promoting. I did a google search. They're called Allstar MP and I think Converse makes them.

I also found a story about his efforts behind "doing this for New Orleans." He is probably very sincere about this. There are numerous articles about him losing several homes in New Orleans & he started some organization with his son (who was supposed to be on Dancing instead of him) to raise funds to rebuild their neighborhood. It sounded like they may have lost some family there too.

So, IMHO, he's got some attention for his Katrina efforts...the honorable thing to do at this point would be to bow out and let the folks who are SINCERELY trying to dance continue with the show.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Why would that be the honorable thing and him staying on dishonorable? The more he is on, the more he can mention his foundation, the more awareness of what's going on in NO, and the more money he raises. I know some people are voting for him for exactly this reason, the charity he's focusing on and bringing attention to. Different strokes for different folks.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
This is not about raising money for charity, do a telethon for that. This is a dancing show. A dancing contest. Obviously that seems lost.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Well he is dancing, just not doing it well but he is doing it.

Spygirl
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04-23-2001

Monday, January 23, 2006 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spygirl a private message Print Post    
Over lunch we discussed this show and across the board there was a consensus. We were huge fans of this show until last week. Two of the women at the table turned it off after he stayed on and didn't even watch the results. They said they won't waste another minute watching.

I missed the show because I was out of town, but I am not interested in a celebrity popularity contest. I was interested in watching people I recognized learn how to dance and judge them based on their dancing.

That's clearly not happening, so I'm not interested in watching.