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Alisons
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01-10-2003

Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I stand by my opinion that Florence butted in on My Fair Brady. She was supposed to be there in her role as therapist and therapists are not supposed to give opinions, they are supposed to help you figure out your own feelings. I thought her pronouncements about Adrienne after a grand total of maybe about an hour with her were way too general and sweeping as well as being inappropriate for a therapist.

But that just makes her a bad therapist, not a bad person. Tawny was really over the line and unprofessional, but she was SO bad that it backfired on her, so no harm done to Florence. Though I'm sure it was unpleasant.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
wait til ya hear Tawny try to say Temper Tantrum on todays ep!!!!! ROTF!!!!

she is a total wreck in this ep

Max
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08-12-2000

Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Okay, Tawny has GOT to have been on something. She was so out of it in this episode. It seems impossible that there weren't some sort of altering substances on board -- either that or she's got some major damage from previous use that shows up now and then.

Alexis really has some anger issues. I understand shy she felt insulted over the wig situation, but her reaction was way over the top and probably the result of more than just what was going on at the time. Not surprising that there are such issues for her, but I hope she finds a way to deal with it more constructively.

Again, I'm so totally impressed with CC. I really like that guy. Never knew who he was before because I'm not a big heavy metal fan and wouldn't know a Poison song or bandmember from a hole in the wall, but I really, really like him and I hope he continues to learn to like himself and trust his abilities without substances.

Maven is still gorgeous and still seems like a wonderful human being.

Andrea's defensiveness about Flo's down-the-nose looks. . . well, I guess I understand it to a point, however if she was really secure about what she does for a living, it doesn't seem like she would give two hoots about what Flo thinks.

Sherman just looked confused this episode, which I guess is pretty normal. :-)

Flo is just being Flo. She has a right to her opinions, but the way she expresses them reminds me of a kindergarten teacher talking to a bunch of 5-year-olds.

Steve, well I don't blame him for losing his patience. I would, too, if someone who didn't know much about my industry was trying to tell me how to do it "right" and then not listening to basic things like, "There are no keyboards in this song," even though I repeated it multiple times. It was nice that he calmed down and then apologized. Alexis could take a lesson on anger management from him. :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 2:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I agree ALexis and Steve seemed to overreact,,that's why I think this show needs to be an hour..I think we missed some things that happened.

I agree about CC, actually all the men are awesome. I didnt know any of them(except Sherman) before but really admire and respect all of them. They seem like they would be cool friends. They all have big hearts

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Temper tantrum is just so hard to say! I had to laugh at her falling asleep, waiting to go on. Can you say "coming down"?

I couldn't blame Steve. He did apologize to her but I'd probably have gone off on her too at that point. It seems that Alexis does get called on the carpet about her anger issues next week so we'll se how that goes.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, April 30, 2006 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen as many episodes as the rest of you, but to me it seems like most of them are a bit difficult in one way or another. I wonder how much of the hostility toward Tawny was really leftover resentment over the Florence Henderson interview. She was pretty spacy working with the band, but those blowups seemed out of proportion to what was going on at the time.

Has that little blonde ever actually expressed her discontent to Florence Henderson, or does she always just act nice to her face and then complain behind her back? Regardless, if she wants people to see her as more than just an exhibitionist, than it's up to her to project the image she wants to have. So far that's the only side of her I've seen her present. Well, that and the behind-the-back complainer.

Sherman Helmsley has a real gift for staying out of the drama. I keep forgetting he's there.

Dee
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08-08-2000

Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dee a private message Print Post    
I'm watching the show now - ITA about Tawny. Did she decide to be the Omarosa of this season? Is that how she got on the show? Maybe she thinks the public remembers the "bad" guys/girls so she's like this for her future "career opportunities". (AS IF!)

I can't remember who the Playboy bunny is but all she seems to do is complain about liking to be naked and how Flo disapproves.

Speaking of Flo - On "My Fair Brady" it did seem a little strange how she had an almost immediate opinion about Adrienne... but the way the show is edited, she could have been there for a much longer period of time for all we know.

Max
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08-12-2000

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Well, today's "Flo's final word" show was interesting. I still think she comes across as rather patronizing at times (that kindergarten teacher kind of tone), but the things she said to people were true.

I was surprised to see that Maven has a problem with Vicodin. I guess I shouldn't have been, since pro wrestling definitely has a major effect on the body. I hope he can kick it and find something to do that's less physically demanding.

Still loving CC and Alexis and Steve to bits. I admire each of their courage and it's been really fun watching them on the show, even though Alexis' anger episodes are very uncomfortable to see. It is good to know that she's aware it's a problem and is trying to work on dealing with frustration and anger more productively (and less destructively). I had no idea there were physical abuse issues in that family.

Andrea. . . Honey, if you don't care what people think about how you use sex and nudity to make them notice you, then why on earth does it upset you so much when they point it out? People see what you put out there and what you're putting out is sex, sex, sex. So I don't understand why she's surprised and offended when people see her primarily as a sexual being. When you're putting your breasts in people's faces, you can't exactly expect them to be thinking, "Wow! She's really smart!"

Tawny. . .Forgiveness really is key for her, I think. She's clearly not ready to forgive herself or anyone else, though. I also think there are some major substance issues going on with Tawny. I think she's probably medicating to avoid feeling. Her personality shifts have been way too major not to be influenced by some kind of chemical.

Sherman. . . was he there? He seems like such a sweet man, but way too introverted to be noticed much on this show. He gets the award for being the most under-the-radar Surreal Life guest ever!

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Max, ITA. Did Alexis's lower lip look a lot larger than it has in the past? It was gigantic looking today especially with the red lipstick.

I couldn't really understand what Tawny was saying in her private tape about "ouchfit" and grandparents - what was that about since it made no sense at all to me?

Max
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08-12-2000

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Beach, I think Alexis' lower lip looks different sizes depending on how she applies the lipstick. She tends to use a LOT of lipstick and gloss and, I think, liner and seems to sometimes get a big carried away. It's amazing how much that can make a difference. The most dramatic example I can think of is Susan Lucci. Her lips are naturally very, very thin, but when she's all made up, it looks like she has very plump lips. That's because of makeup tricks and "going outside the lines" if you will. I think Alexis has large lips to begin with and then you add that bright red lipstick, some dark liner, and a lot of gloss and it looks like they're HUGE. :-)

As for understanding what Tawny was saying, I'm not sure SHE understands it. It's almost like watching James Spader on 'Boston Legal' when he had his 'word salad' episodes -- he's speaking, but not making any sense. It's yet another reason why I think Tawny has some chemicals on board.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Beachcomber, I just watched the tape and I think Tawny was trying to say "Auschwitz" (sp?). Kind of an exagerrated comparison, but then everything Tawny says and does is pretty much over the top. I do feel sorry for her, though. She really does have a lot of hurt inside, and Florence is right. She needs to find a way to let it go and forgive those who have hurt her for her own sake (forgiveness does not equal forget).

Beachcomber
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08-26-2003

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beachcomber a private message Print Post    
Thanks Max and BJM! I rewound the tape and still didn't get it. I agree that Tawny appears to be in another world at times and chemicals must be involved. I saw the previews and did not think that the dress she is wearing to the final dinner is flattering to her body shape. And what is up with the cheesy apology that Andrea is going to give to Florence? Loved that Steve agreed with Florence 100%!

I have got to start watching Boston Legal, it sounds like a hoot.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Florence didn't say anything that wasn't truthful. The truth hurts. Andrea is only 22 and I'm sure she thinks she know it all but what does she know about? Her dream was to make it into Playboy, aim high! LOL I agreed with Florence 100%.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, May 07, 2006 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I think Andrea is afraid of Florence. She only voices her anger behind her back. She's all smiles when face-to-face. That's why Alexis got the impression Andrea was okay with what Florence was saying. She didn't argue the point. She just smiled and nodded. How can she fault other people for not speaking up for her when she wasn't speaking up for herself?

Boy, you know your life is pretty sad when you get fully naked in front of a group of people and nobody gives a flip, and the guys are even complaining about having to see it.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I thought it was a good ep. I had missed the show where Tawny talked about her childhood though so it was very enlightening.

Like CC said, Andrea just doesn't get it.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 6:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Mocha, I've seen every episode and I don't remember Tawny talking about her childhood till now. Maybe I just forgot?

I just love CC and admire the progress he's making on himself. I hope he sticks with it. Florence was right on when she said he doesn't blame anyone else for his mistakes. That does take courage!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Oh ok I thought I had missed something lol. Maven is still fine.

Nancypj
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08-17-2001

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nancypj a private message Print Post    
I don't recall Tawny talking about her childhood either. Maybe it was in the "VH1.com Extras"? Or just unaired footage?

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I suspect unaired footage, cause they never showed us Maven taking the Vicodin either. He is fine!

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 5:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
As a recovering alkie, I admire Steve's and CC's ability to get through this without using! I think they helped each other, like when everyone went partying after the news show...still, kudos to you, gentlemen. It works if you work it!

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Monday, May 08, 2006 - 8:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
I see this Flo thing has replaced the talk show episode they had on previous episodes (dirty laundry). Once again, I think we have housemates who have not seen previous shows. How they can agree to go on with out having their managers watch a previous show and clue them in amazes me each show.

With Steve, I do think it was dirty pool to bring up his child. He has something he does not want to be part of his public story, that he wants to keep private, and he casually talks to someone without realizing that the show is always filming. I know they have to find something shocking about everyone, it just seems so wrong to use his child's death. The man was coping, he was just not cashing in on a personal story. I think he was on this show just for publicty for his band.

As to the others - I think that Sherman may have done his research and may just be keeping to himself to keep his private information private, while being shy. Nothing shocking, he is the usual one person who flies under the radar the whole show. A sign of a smart person. Take the money and run. Of course, if you want the notoriety, like Omarosa, you have to be "out there" in behavior to be the center of the media.

Tawny is just not as smart as she thinks she is. I really don't think she is deliberate in some of the things shown, but then again, she could be a great actress. I don't know her, so it is just a guess.

CC has to like everything Flo does, she is very supportive and not critical of him and they only discuss what he says openly. He certainly cannot complain about how he has been portrayed, it could have gone the other way, if he fell off the wagon, but I think a lot of people in the house are supportive as well, which would help. There are many people in this house that are very real and caring people to each other.

Andrea is young and thinks she will be forever. Ah, the ignorance of youth, the immortality! The purpose to be on here is to redefine, reinvent yourself. To gain the bit more spotlight to relaunch your career or to make the 60K for 3 weeks work. I don't know why she would appear if there was not a need, a stalling in her career.

Flo is fulfilling her requirement on the show, including stirring things up. Her part is the most scripted portion of the show. I am sure many things are scripted, but I find it hard to believe all of it is.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 4:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Great post Sadiesmom.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, May 09, 2006 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Did any of you see Sherman Helmsley's episode of "Living in TVLand?" He really is that quiet and mellow. I don't think it's just a strategy to get through the "Surreal Life" experience. It was a cute episode that showed how he loves music and has his own band, and he threw a dinner party for all his old castmates from "The Jeffersons" and "Amen." He just seemed like a really nice easy-going guy who doesn't let anything bother him. Total opposite from the characters he plays!

They replayed the previous episodes in a block this afternoon, and after re-watching that talk show episode I'm thinking they don't need to make any of this scripted so long as they keep editing the daylights out of it the way they do. During the interviews they had a graph showing the audience reaction, making it look like they hated certain comments and loved others. Problem is, they were showing us this graph while airing a chopped up 30-60 second version of a 10 minute interview. Was that graph just a joke, or did they really take the time to rework it to coincide with the edited footage?

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, May 10, 2006 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
I did not mean to say that he was assuming a character, just that he was cautious with what he said abut his life - no secrets dropped.

Dee
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08-08-2000

Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dee a private message Print Post    
The final episode is on - no one is watching?