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Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 3:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
I like much about this show. I like the way alliances and friendships are building and the way teams help each other. I like that rivalries are building and competition is heating up.

I don't need to see anymore footage of folks running through airports. This show is about the "hunt" not the "race". This is a different show. It doesn't matter if you get your artifact first or last...just that you get it. There is no prize for being first, just elimination if you are last.

I don't mind the Motorola guy, saying things twice. Some folks may have missed what he said the first time.

I think this show is very well cast...and for me it's all about the casting. These are people I can cheer for and against. I will miss the Hanlon's, but have to face the fact that they were simply out of their league. They just didn't have the necessary skills...except for the young man...and the older ones were too stubborn to listen to him.

Hats off to Josh Hanlon. He impressed a lot of folks with his good eye, smart thinking, and most of all his ethics. The difference between him and the Fogal daughter is light years.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 4:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
I'm with Jimmer on this one. How shocked was i when in the one minute of "what happened so far" they said that the hanlons were eliminated last week and went on to show next week's show
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it's a TO BE CONTINUED ending next week bTW but KEith Brown ins taken off on a stretcher


I wonder how Global will handle this next week? hopefully they will show the missed week at 8 and repeat the show we just saw at 9???

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 5:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
We offer some helpful hints that could reveal the hidden strengths of ''Treasure Hunters'' by Michael Slezak



AN UNEXPECTED TWIST The Grad Students had to ankle the show



I'm not the world's angriest writer; I swear it on my mom's good hip. And to prove it to you, I promise that next week, no matter how dull or inept or infuriating I find the fourth episode of Treasure Hunters, I'll deliver a TV Watch that's filled to the rim with positivity — and doesn't contrast NBC's summer scavenger hunt with CBS's far superior Amazing Race.

To ease myself into such a sunny state of mind, this week I'm taking a page from Paula Abdul and couching my putdowns in the form of constructive criticism. To that end, here are four ways NBC could make Treasure Hunters a better show.

1. Replace host Laird Macintosh with something resembling a human life form To be fair, it might not be Macintosh's fault that he's only allowed to appear via Motorola cellphone screen (further blurring the already unclear man-machine perimeters suggested by his computer-y surname), but seriously, what's with the total lack of warmth and spontaneity in his line readings? For all he's bringing to the show, I'm surprised the Treasure Hunters team didn't choose a leading brand of voice-recognition technology for the job. (Imagine the product-placement opportunity!) Conversely, if the network is committed to Macintosh (the man), why not have him reshoot all his scenes before next week's episode? It's not as if the guy ever has to actually interact with the contestants, like a Jeff Probst or a Phil Keoghan, and maybe if he didn't deliver each clue like the world's least enthusiastic middle-school history teacher, I might be able to retain some of the things he's saying.

2. No more sharing! This isn't kindergarten; it's reality TV. When Ex-CIA, Miss USA, the Geniuses, and the Southie Boys all arrived at the Boston lighthouse together, alliances should've been forgotten, instead of everyone singing ''Kumbaya'' and helping each other crack the code to unlock the boxes. (Of course, the fact that Genius Charles had to climb the lighthouse to solve said puzzle was pretty much a tip-off to the other teams, anyhow.)

Similarly, while it was kind of fun to see six of the teams unite against the Fogals and Air Force, it didn't make sense strategically. Didn't any individual from the band of 18 consider that if the Fogals and Air Force pulled ahead, they'd be part of a six-way scramble to avoid elimination? The fact that all these players seem so susceptible to pack thinking suggests to me serious flaws in casting the show. Where are the rogue personalities? Where are the quotable crazies? Would any of you viewers be able to select a member of team Miss USA out of a lineup this morning?

3. Speaking of personalities, show us some intra-team tension already! With eight groups of three racing massive SUVs through the seventh circle of hell that is Boston traffic, I find it incomprehensible that the show's producers didn't catch the special kind of vicious squabbling that comes from folks getting lost while reading directions to anxious loved ones. I kid you not: I experienced more conflict maneuvering my shopping cart through the bakery section of Wegman's this afternoon than any of the teams did rushing to the Boston lighthouse under threat of elimination. Clearly, the show's producers need to start depriving these treasure hunters of food, sleep, and air-conditioning if we're going to be treated to the joys of road rage.

4. And finally, make the puzzles more compelling to the viewing audience First of all, am I the only one who didn't see much connection between the clue at the old Burke School (''Look until you can see no more'') and the solution (hitting the light switch in a classroom to see a black-light message on a chalkboard)? Instead of a solution based almost entirely on blind luck, why not challenge teams with word scrambles, or riddles, or mathematical equations, the better to be impressed when they solve them (or to be amused when they're stuck for hours scratching their heads). Heck, the show could even break for a second and show us how each code or riddle was solved once the first team succeeded.

What's more, the fact that teams get a Motorola message every time they correctly solve a puzzle pretty much ensures that no one is going to stray too far off the course. When Air Force headed off to ''the shot heard round the world'' and didn't get a Macintosh moment, it should've been all the warning they needed that it was time to go back to square one and start the hunt over.

Anyhow, with the Grad Students bowing out because of one team member's injury (kinda sad, but I got over it in 10 seconds), the Brown Family returning to take their place (I'm not entirely sure any team should get a return ticket after being eliminated, but at least these guys aren't entirely boring), and the Wild Hanlons' lack of reasoning skills finally catching up with them (loved watching Papa Hanlon determine the Roman numeral L stood for 12, because it's the 12th number of the alphabet), we're now down to seven teams with two or three players who've made an impression that extends beyond their physical appearance. Perhaps with fewer folks to focus on next week, we'll get to know the teams better and get more emotionally involved in their journeys. That way, I'll be a little less stupefied by comments like Papa Hanlon's parting shot: ''This is not just a treasure hunt. It's a hunt for your inner soul.''

What do you think? Do you have any suggestions for the show? Should the Browns have been allowed back? And are you finally starting to pick out a favorite team?

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/commentary/0,6115,1210072_3_0_,00.html

YAY! Usually my links for EW.com doesn't work, but this one did!

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 6:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
There is no true incentive to be first.

This isn't TAR. Put that out of mind. "Race" isn't in the title of the show. For this game, you don't need to be first -- you just need not to be last when it comes to the last challenge of the episode. I'm guessing that at the end it will be a race to be first to the "treasure".

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
They are just jealous of Air Force. And they knew it was a team to beat so they were trying to knock them down a notch. Some stuff must have transpired during the rest breaks/traveling segments not shown (I thought AF & CIA were going to join up after their bus ride in the first episode - guess two strong minded teams can't get along).

Yup, Fogels rode on the coattails. And I don't know if they will reciprocate in the future (given their recent track history). But it worked to AF's advantage (and for the Fogels) since they were closer to the second location at the time of the phone call. Yeah, that clue "look until you can see no more" didn't make much sense (and it seemed it wasn't even needed by the rat pack according to the editing).

Guess all is fair in Treasure Hunt. Must be that if you are working as a team according to the instructions, you don't have to visit all the locations physically - different from Amazing Race; but you better not mess with the clues left for other players - I was worried the boys might have taken all the bullets. Maybe the actual game rules for the Hunters is available somewhere online - or Keith's wife can share that tidbit with us?

Anyone else felt guilty for laughing when the Geniuses were messing with the Fogels? Maybe only a little twing. But I guess Karma called (again).

I agree, Hanlons were way out of their element but huge props to the son!! Must have a good mother.

I am also glad we're not subject to running through airports, encouraging taxi drivers to break driving laws, etc. While there is no advantage to being first to find the artifact that signals the end of the each leg, by reaching the designated location first, they have more time available to solve the clue and more choices for the boxes (since obviously some of the boxes do NOT have the artifact). Time is precious in each leg, it seems.

Being that this is the first time for this show (and it's rules, strategy, etc), the only experiences these folks can draw from is Amazing Race (many of them list Reality Shows in their favorites). I'd probably be thinking the same thing.

More codes to break!!! Why did they give them the answer on how to solve the Lewis & Clark cipher last week? Make them look it up on the internet (even Ask.com would be able to provide them with the ability to solve it online).

I enjoy this show!

'squeek'

Tntitanfan
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08-03-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tntitanfan a private message Print Post    
Well, gosh darn! I really enjoyed the show! Yes, the editing is choppy, but I too am over watching people run into and/or through airports! I loved that the clues were actually - DRUMROLL HERE! - CLUES!

I am wondering if the producers realized that Phil and Jeff have pretty much a lock on "personable host" roles, and are trying something different. There is always lots of fussing in other reality show threads because things aren't "different." Well, now we have something different, so let's see where it goes!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 6:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Marysafan, good post, ITA

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Good points! It is different and we can just enjoy that. This is a game of cell phones and wireless connections.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 9:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
I wish they would either cut back on reviewing the clues and show us more about the searches. I think the issue is that there are several things happening in every episode and there are too many teams to go into detail about what they are going to do. Perhaps if this were a 2 hour show, we can follow all the clues.

What I do like about this show is that you have to have some intelligence to solve the problems. I have been enjoying solving the puzzles on the web site. They do need to home the puzzles a little more, though. Since not coming in last is important to all, it only makes sense to share information on the last leg of the contest - i.e. the roman numerals, this time. You get a sort of alliance without particularly annoying the people who have not arrived yet. With the next boat coming, I could see sharing the clue by shouting down from the light house, because to wait until you run down, would have been time consuming and they did not yet know if there were another leg to this portion of the contest. In giving out the clues, you may be helping weaker members along, as well - all the better for later in the series.

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fabnsab a private message Print Post    
I think the Hanlons were set up to be the bumbling oafs of the show. I truly believe they all get help with clues here and there but the producers wanted to completely typecast the Hanlons as dumb so they give them less help. They casted this show with characters amd characitures in mind. I am sure they're not the opnly ones who don't get hints.

They recruited these people. The Miss USA's did an interview saying that they were all called and offered a part on this show without knowing what it was.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Marysafan, thanks for that perspective. I just watched last nights show and enjoyed it more. The editing is lousy so I let go of caring about the timeline and just focused on the clues and the teams behavior.

As with TAR the clues/challenges are repeated too often.

The 3 teams who aligned against Air Force would have been better served to just tell them the truth. You are our biggest threat.

It would have kept the door open for a future alliance should they need it. You really want to be their partner. Now they may take the Fogles to the end with them. No one wants that!

Karen
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09-07-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Thank you, Jan and Jimmer. I too, was dumbfounded and confused last night when I saw that episode (next weeks). I couldn't for the life of me figure out why the Browns were there, no mention of the girls having to drop out, and all of a sudden the Hanlons were not there as well. So I come to read the thread here and we're talking about something I never saw... LOL.

I wonder if Global will get in any kind of trouble for their mistake??

Jan
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Karen, I think I read somewhere that the Network fed them the wrong feed???

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Karen or someone, can you put who leaves next week in a spoiler tag please? Thanks.

Karen
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09-07-2004

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karen a private message Print Post    
Fruitbat -- check Jan's spoiler box upthread. :-)

Jan
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 11:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jan a private message Print Post    
Fruit, I did right near the top of this page:-):-) - my 6:19Am post

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Ahhhhh, I did read that. I will come up with an excuse as to why I did not register that as being next weeks show. I can't think of a good one at the moment. Dog ate the homework doesn't fit, no deaths in the family. hmmmmmmmm Needs work.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marysafan a private message Print Post    
Well...the Hanlons were down in that mine for 11 hours. One would hope that someone would throw them a hint eventually...or they might still be down there.

NEWS FLASH! All reality shows are casted and contestants are recruited in a number of different ways. Do you think they would hold open auditions hoping a team of beauties would apply?

lol! Fruitbat!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
AH HA! I have it now. When I read your spoiler I passed it off as speculation or rumor. I hadn't yet read that some got next weeks show. That is really true. I often read threads very quickly and missed that. For a minute there I was scared. I know my memory sucks but usually I can retain an hour or two, no sweat.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I wondered why the Hanlons didn't go to ask.com to find out about the Roman numerals.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
i also wondered why more teams (looking at you Fogel 60 miles away family) didnt go to Ask to search for directions to the school LOL

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 1:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
that makes 3 of us

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 1:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I'm with those of you who really enjoyed this show (thank goodness we got the right episode here in the Sacramento area--getting next week's by mistake must've been very frustrating!). I love the fact that they forced two teams to work together. I thought it was a very unique way to change the dynamics of the game. Thought the Hanlons stunk for not helping their "partners" the Browns. Was so glad they got eliminated! That poor young man (Josh?) seems to be a decent guy and I think he was really embarassed by his dad's actions and nasty words.

I hope those of you who are not enjoying this show will be able to stop comparing it to TAR. It is not TAR (how could it be?) and Laird Macintosh is not Phil (duh!!!).

I think the editing is fine. I don't want to watch them stand around trying to figure things out forever (except for those amusing Hanlons). Keep 'em moving.

I did feel sorry for the Grad Students. To make it onto a reality show and then to be forced to quit due to an injury must be awfully disappointing. I really felt bad for them!

Still loving the Browns. Where's Keith's_Treasure? Has NBC made her stop participating in our convos here? Love you, KT!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I like the Browns and was happy to see them back in.

I have much respect for young Hanlon for the way he aplogized to Mr Brown

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 10:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fabnsab a private message Print Post    
Babyjaxmom, my gripes are for this show alone. I don't watch TAR. I tried once but seeing people yell at taxi drivers isn't my thing...lol

I just wish there was a way to make the answers secret. Like I stated earlier, the first team does all the work and the next team can just waltz in and copy them and be done with it. This is the case in alot of their challenges. Then they are all starting even. There should be some incentive to being first and doing more work.