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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, December 21, 2005 - 11:08 pm
I think the criticisms of Santino's stuff was fair: it really did look like something Galiano might have designed. Unfortunately, the stuff Diana designed could have been done by Gaultier or Alaia imposters.....15 years ago. It was a horror. Daniel's really was the worst, though, and I did like Daniel V's collection. I missed seeing Michael Kors tonight. He's always snarky and right on with his comments. The guest designer was boring and the Victoria's Secret model had nothing to say I cared about. I literally LOL-ed when Santino said that the three women were "so f'ing lame. They look like they haven't been laid in years."
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 2:15 am
Who was out?
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Dfng
Member
08-04-2005
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 5:37 am
I forget his last name but Daniel from the first show is out. He displayed a lot of class which I can't say for the great Santino. Did anyone notice that Santino's clothes all look the same. I mean he uses the same type trim and ideas. I don't like his clothes but maybe that is because I don't like his personality.
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Wendo
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 6:18 am
I found all the designs underwhelming however, I did enjoy the show. Santino's work was awful, imo. I thought all three outfits in the collection were ugly and tacky. If that's his definition of lingerie, he should avoid a job at Victoria's Secret. I wouldn't wish those outfits on Star Jones...wait...maybe I would. Heh. He really needs to check his ego because he really isn't all that. I think he was overly harsh towards Emmett too. Daniel F.'s designs were unfortunately nothing like his initial vision. Plus, there was no variation among the three designs. While I found Santino's designs uglier than Daniel's, I do think it was the right choice to boot Daniel; plus, he did fall on his sword so I think it was an easy choice. I did like Diana's initial sketches but they just didn't translate to fabric. She's young and that's noticable when it comes to translating her ideas off the paper. But, she is thinking out of the box. Daniel V.'s designs were ok; but, like I said, underwhelmed. But, of the competition, his were the best and it was definitely a concept that worked in practice. Ditto about missing Michael Kors on the show. I would've loved, LOVED, to hear what he thought of Santino's designs. Really, they were so awful. It was like lingerie for The Sound of Music. Blech. I do dig this show though. Dfng, totally agree that Santino's designs are starting to look similar. He really needs to change it up.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 6:43 am
Crap I forgot too. Have to catch the repeat.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 6:47 am
ROFL.. lingerie for The Sound of Music.. thats a good one.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:10 am
Santino just bugged me last night. I liked him on the first show but he's gone downhill for me every since. And am I the only one who wishes Diana would open her mouth when she talks?
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 7:58 am
I thought Daniel V's line looked much better in the pictures on the bravo website than they did on the runway. There was some detail there that I just didn't pick up when I was seeing it on my tv. Legal, I saw the Superman 2 villain resemblance, too. Especially with what he was wearing on the final runway! Kept expecting him to say "Kneel before Zod." I'm liking Santino less and less. Funny, because early on last night, I was starting to think maybe he wasn't so bad (because he was coming off as a perfectionist, like me, so I could understand why he was so upset with the 2nd place finishes...that it wasn't because he thinks the others are bad, but just because he needs the be the best), but when he didn't seem to take any responsibility for how bad his line was, I was back to not liking him again. And this time around, I didn't even like his designs. Was sad to see Daniel Franco go. I didn't think his line was the best, but didn't think it was the worst, either. It was, at least, wearable...even if the pieces were too similar. Too bad he didn't vary that a bit. I don't know, I just found him kind of adorable and his presence will be missed. I'm glad he went out with class, and seemingly feeling good about the second time around. Is it completely backwards that while the judges talk about how important it is to take responsibility when you are the leader, they always seem to cut the leader who DOES take the responsibility? I guess Santino stayed in on the strenghth of his past designs. But, really, he melts down in the sewing room, argues with the judges, and then pins the loss on Emmett...I would have preferred to see him go. Of course, what I'd really like to see go is the team competitions. It puts the team leaders in a more vulnerable position and isn't really fair...especially when you pick what you think are the designers with the 4 strongest ideas to be the leaders. So, basically you are giving the 12 least creative designers of the week a free pass (all they had to do was work nicely and avoid causing any major drama). I don't like that. I think the competitions should be individual every time.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:47 am
M, when is the repeat?
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 9:56 am
Ladytex, you can find the schedule for the season here. It has all Project Runway airings up to Jan 29th, along with which ep is airing. The next airing of last night's show is tomorrow at 3pm, but it airs several more times after that.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 10:04 am
I usually catch the repeat on the weekend.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 11:51 am
My DVR caught a repeat already and it repeats this afternoon. Ladyt, all episodes repeat on Saturday (at 3pm-4pm-5pm-6pm pacific time). I still love the show but agree that the team challenges aren't helpful. I hated seeing Daniel Franco go and it was clear that Santino should be the one to go based on the final two, but also clear that they won't be booting him anytime soon; he makes the perfect villain and does have talent (which I didn't see last night, his stuff was horrible). I don't like his attitude and seems like he has made negative comments about others Have they ever had Project Runway contestants at the Fishbowl? Seems like there are enough of them in LA and they'd probably be pretty interesting, too.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 1:18 pm
Legal...here's a picture of Santino from the final runway last night That jacket really makes the Superman 2 villain look for me! ETA: Whoo! Hoo! I succesfully posted a picture for the very first time!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 1:55 pm
thanks y'all ...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 3:24 pm
thanks CD - i was looking for that - definitely needs to go back and be trapped in whatever glass/mirror prison they were in before
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Aahlife
Member
08-06-2005
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 6:53 pm
This episode is a perfect illustration of how "design by committee" always results in a mess. Most of the designers have talent, but their styles and methods of working do not mesh. Daniel F's: matronly, maybe or maybe not designs - has anybody else noticed that the worst put-down these judges make is when they say something looks too "old"? Daniel said he was interested in designing for a women of 30 - the kiss of death! As for Santino's work, the "Springtime for Hitler" collection was an unsuccessful parody. Diana's concept had potential but the execution was not fullfilled. It lack the flowing lines her drawings implied. I think Daniel V's team won because at least the lines were clean, but derivative, echoed playboy playmates with ideas like men's cuffs. As for Daniel F. vs. Santino, Daniel F. clearly beat Santino on all the stated criteria of the challenge, namely concept, teamwork and execution. Project Runway was my favorite show because it (supposedly) rewarded talent, not obnoxious personalities. Project Runway has succumbed to the reality show formula.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 12:49 pm
I finally got to see the show. As Daniel Franco's line was coming down the runway, I thought 'what a gorgeous line, I would wear it'. But then the model/judge called it 'old lady'! Guess she was right, I am an old lady! LOL Santino is an @ss!!! That line was awful!!! And boy did those gals really blast at Daniel.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 1:52 pm
I couldn't believe the way Santino was yelling at the judges, very disrespectful!! He is creepy. I just wanted to hug Daniel, what a class act. Diana Eng irriates me...blow you nose for God's sake!! Her plugged up voice is grating! I miss Wendy Pepper. love her
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:13 pm
And Diana doesn't open her mouth when she speaks! It drives me nuts!
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 3:55 pm
I just caught the runway portion of the show again. LOL. What a horror show. Daniel's lingere really looked like a bunch of stuff Liz Taylor, Shirley MacLaine, and Jane Fonda might be wearing. In a retirement home.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 4:51 pm
Wasn't it Santino that said he designed for lingerie that is meant to come off?? Well his shit wouldn't even go on, it was ugly!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 9:48 pm
Yeah, but he's right, it should come off quickly, just to get rid of it Diana doesn't move her upper lip.. I'd be willing to bet she had years of braces and her mouth is still afraid to get spiked. Annie, I think Daniel Franco's was the only line that 90% of the viewers would actually wear. Santino had bugged me from the start. Thankfully, Andre Agassi shaved his long hair while it still looked good.. so he isn't running around with a combover with a long fringe..ACK..
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Friday, December 23, 2005 - 9:49 pm
And Tisha, you are probably right about those three in the retirement home, not most of the regular residents.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 8:31 am
In Tim Gunn's podcast, he says that Santino's arguing with the judges went on for 90 minutes. Can you imagine that? Imagine being one of the other 5 designers still on the runway just having to stand there for 90 minutes and listen to that. Or imagine being Daniel Franco, standing there for 90 minutes listening to Santino blast the judges...and then being the one sent home.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, December 24, 2005 - 9:09 am
WOW, they should have shown more of it, just in case he has some fans left. LOL I wonder why the judges didn't tell him to just shut up. I agree Cdba, how sad for Daniel, makes his exit even more of a class act, he could have been bitter that Santino was not the one to go.
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