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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:22 am
At southieboys.com, John says that they spent days in that swamp! DAYS! Hours are bad enough...but my hats off to these folks for spending days there. John says that the temp was over 100 degrees and they suffered dehydration and leg cramps. They lost out on the 30k but only 30 seconds! How bad does that suck! You spend days in that swamp and lose the 30k by only 30 seconds! Lots of respect going out to these contestants for being really troopers.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:27 am
Last night was the first time I've seen it. I saw the last half of the first ep that was on last night and the entire second ep of last night. I have been excited about the show coming up, I wish I could have seen it from the beginning. I guess I had higher expectations, like it would be really exciting like TAR. So far for me, it's ok. Anyway, I'll keep watching and maybe get into it a little more. Maybe the filming and editing really make a difference. Also, the guy on the cell phone is no Phil! I think the Geniuses will go back for their friend. If they do, then they will have a three hour time penalty like all the other teams for going back for the remaining team members, isn't this correct? I cannot remember for sure. Anyway, the Browns wouldn't have the penalty because they no longer have a team member waiting for them, isn't this correct?
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Starshine40
Member
07-30-2002
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 10:34 am
I would have to watch my tape but I don't remember the Browns finding any of the boxes last night on the trail through the swamp. I think they were totally not following the clues on the quilt and were "lost" even before Keith's problem. If so, then they would have been very far behind even if they could continue and would probably get eliminated in the continuation which we see next week. They really are troopers though and I wish them well.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 1:31 pm
Why did TBTB chose contestants who had asthma & overweight when they knew that the course is so grueling? Uninteresting dramatic moments.
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Kc103
Member
07-13-2004
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 1:35 pm
Happymom, I think that's why the Geniuses are torn about going back for their team member. It seemed they were aware of the Browns losing a team member. I think that they are so afraid that taking that 3 hour penalty will allow the Browns a chance to finish before them, therefore being eliminated for sure if they go back for Sam. It will be interesting to see what decision they do make. On another note, I realize as a parent you would never want to leave a child behind. However, I couldn't help but think that after seeing what immature, self-serving behavior that the Fogal daughter exhibited, leaving her there would have been a good lesson toward growing. I have a feeling that might be fairly common behavior for her; otherwise they should brought in some med. or psych. person to talk to her if she was honestly breaking down that much. I'm still wondering what type of upbringing and religion was practiced in this family, or is this Fogal daughter another wannabe actress or something. Her behavior last night was an embarrassment. I'm sure they'll blame it on editing, but you know...if you don't want to be "portrayed" that way...DON'T ACT THAT WAY!! (Sorry to rant, but I could barely stomach watching her behavior last night.)
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Jewels
Member
09-23-2000
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 2:36 pm
I think the Geniuses should go back for Sam. The Browns hadn't even made it to the first box yet had they? No way they are going to finish in enough time, I think the Geniuses have plenty of time with the 3 hour penalty...even if the Browns finish, I bet they will be more than 3 hours behind and be eliminated, unfortunately.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 2:47 pm
Kayte Fogle was a brat (I kept waiting for one of the Southie Boys to tell her to just SHUT UP already!), but in defense of her parents, sometimes parents can do everything "right" and still end up with a drama queen. Some personalities are inborn. My mom raised five, and each of us is entirely different. You could tell the Fogle parents were accustomed to Kayte's DQ behavior when her dad kind of smiled and said, "I didn't see any blood or any bones sticking out, so I figured she was probably okay." I think they're used to it. That said, I can't believe they didn't jump all over the opportunity to leave her behind! ETA: Looking at the declining number of posts for each week's episode on this board, it does not seem that this show is a hit. Too bad. I'm enjoying it, but I don't expect it to be TAR. There is only one Phil, after all!
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:20 pm
Dare I say that I watched one full episode (must've been the first one shown last night and not the new one -- the Hanlons were eliminated), and it really didn't catch my interest. Dunno' if it's the contestants, the scenery or the editing, but I can definitely take it or leave it. DH tivos it, but I probably won't watch it unless there's nothing else on (and that means they've stopped rerunning 2 1/2 Men! ) Hope that the show's end is great for those of you who do love it, though!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:33 pm
<--- is a Mom thrice and a Nana 5.4 times... All my kids have survived to adulthood, and all 5 of my grandkids have survived several nana visits... I wouldn't have a problem leaving my GROWN daughter behind if she was acting like the Fogal daughter. I don't honestly think they (the production crew) would simply leave her in the wild for the animals overnight. She would end up in a comfy hotel where she could lament her woes in comfort. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how the parents did their daughter a favor by making her continue in a race she clearly isn't prepared to commit to.
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 6:41 pm
This is the ONLY reality program my dh has watched and it is because of the history involved, but I may lose him next week because of Katye Fogal. He said he would have "slapped her three ways to Sunday" (he's just kidding-I think) and left her before they even had the option. So next week I will probably be watching alone... again.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 8:17 pm
Yes, the history is interesting, and I am hoping that viewers that apprciate this kind of show will find it! I loved The Mole, but apparently it was too "intellectual" to make it. I fear I am seeing the same kind of thing here -
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 9:29 pm
Tnt, I'm loving every minute of the history. It's my favorite part. And I like most of the contestants (with a couple notable exceptions). We did make note of the fact in chat that night that none of our children had acted like Ms. Kayte even during the worst of the toddler years. Honestly, I don't care what the treasure is at the end and I would be happy with any of several teams winning whatever it is. It's the journey that is grabbing me. Having a combined geography and history degree, this is exactly the type of show I've been waiting for. My biggest quibble is being able to track the order of the contestants half the time. Seems like they will show first place and then sixth place but leave you wondering which teams are 2nd through fifth. My heart does go out to the Brown brothers. They seem like such good guys but they were so out of their element last show with not following their quilted map, and dealing the conditions in the swamp etc.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 4:17 am
Since I am perhaps looking at an Elderhostel to Boston this fall, I was on the edge of my seat watching this show when they were there! I think the editors (and camera crews) are new at this kind of thing and don't put together as smooth a package as we are used to with other shows. The other thing is that it is hard to get our heads around the fact that the only place that actually matters is last, as everyone else appears to leave together no matter when they arrive. I, for one, am used to the staggered leaving times on TAR - However, I think they have done a GREAT job in finding the contestants. They all ring true - even the Miss USA's whom I was prepared to dislike. So far I think both the grad students group and the Browns have shown great heart -
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 6:28 am
Kudos to Scoutmom for your comment about the escaping slaves maybe having to leave someone behind. It must have happened. I wonder if TPTB for the show were actually thinking in that direction. True or not I'm greatful for at least the discussion the show is generating. Here I am in my home, at my computer, and watching TV! What some people in history went through is amazing. If anybody likes to read try "Mayflower" it is an awesome novel.
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Scoutmom
Member
01-19-2006
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:03 am
I'm putting that book on my reading list at the library right now. Looked it up at BN and it looks great. Thanks Ritfie.
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 10:55 am
Gosh darn, I thought I posted a long post here this AM, but it doesn't seem to be here now!! As best I remember I said that I was on the edge of my seat while they were in Boston as I am hoping to travel there for an Elderhostel in the early fall. I agree that the package is not as smooth as some other shows, BUT this is a first edition, and I suspect something like this takes practice to edit well. Also, and this is hard for me to get my head around, the ORDER doesn't matter, only who is last. What is great about the show is that they seem to have cast REAL people. Even the Miss USA's whom I didn't expect to like are okay. I think the grad student team and the Browns have shown great heart!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:16 pm
Scoutmom, I was also thinking about the escaping slaves during that swamp segment. Not only did they have to endure horrible conditions to escape, but I was thinking about the terrible things the slaveowners would do to them if they were caught. What a sad and shameful chapter in our history!
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Dipo
Member
04-23-2002
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:19 pm
I know a lot of people who are watching the show. I think that the postings may have dropped off simply because big brother has started!! I hardly have time to check most of the board just trying to keep up with two big brothers, but I love this show and have gotten a lot of people at work interested in it. Hopefully it will get another season or two and they can get the editing down better!!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 12:54 pm
Well, now both of my posts are here! How strange! Guess the first one was drifting around in cyberspace when I first came back here - When I had my webtv, we blamed web witches! What would be the equivalent on msntv2?
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, July 12, 2006 - 5:29 pm
Tnt, you could call it a "msn msg" (missin' message). Hee!
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Tntitanfan
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 5:13 am
So I could, BJM!
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Halirockthrower
Member
08-29-2005
| Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 12:54 pm
I honestly have to say I would leave Sam behind - I know I feel like a jerk saying it, but in the game I think I would. The guys have no idea the Browns are struggling as much as they are. Sam is a liability. I have to give it to the producers to come up with this idea. I mean this is just a show, but can you imagine the decisions some slaves would have had to leave loved ones behind in order to obtain their own freedom. To think we are struggling with what decision we would make in this game - and this is only a game - not your life. On a side note - wouldn't the Browns be eliminated. I thought the only time you could go to a two member team is at the boat clue. I don't think they have even reached the first clue. great show though - well except for the foguls
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 3:54 pm
I guess that's why they had the "TO BE CONTINUED" to keep us all wondering what's going to happen and to make sure we tune in next week!! I caught part of the very first Survivor on TV the other night... and OH BOY...was that production "light" compared to what it is these days. It was almost funny, esp. hearing Jeff saying "The Tribe Has Spoken" and how he's said it was a dorky thing he said and it stuck!! Anyway, I'll give them a bit of a pass on production. I found the Underground railroad, the swamps, etc., to be really moving. To see how much trouble those folks were having during the daylight when they could see and with the clothing, protection they had, it really hit me to the core just how difficult it was for the slaves to even get out of there, let alone with everyone they started the journey with. We were part of the underground railroad, so it's always been something that's been dear to my heart. Lot's of education since I was a young kid and something our area is known for along with many civil rights break-throughs. Susan B. Anthony, anyone?
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Ritfie
Member
05-09-2006
| Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 7:57 pm
You're welcome Scoutmom, hope you enjoy the book. I learn so much from the folks at TVCH and I am glad to contribute something. My dh family is filled with history teachers, and we talk about so much of it that I was surprised how emotional I felt while watching the Underground Railroad part of this show. It has touched several people I know and it seems it has made an impact on many of you also. Time will tell if Treasure Hunters can continue to bring it.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, July 13, 2006 - 8:26 pm
Watching, same here in Buffalo. Underground railroad into Canada. A while back I posted pics of an old church here that was part of the URR. Several safe houses too. Very moving to watch this show the other night. I like the show. Its not as exciting as TAR but then what is???
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