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Bigd
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09-13-2001

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bigd a private message Print Post    
Kellsma - yes that was John! Too funny. Kelly's line was something like what do you want? Too funny!

Sue
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06-02-2005

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sue a private message Print Post    
Tough call on who will win this. Think John did fabulous on their second dance but I am a Kelly fan. Rooting for her.

Potted_plant
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08-29-2001

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Potted_plant a private message Print Post    
I think it was wrong to close the phone lines down only 15 minutes after the show, here on the West Coast, while East coasters had 3.25 hours more to vote.

Kellsma
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08-28-2002

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kellsma a private message Print Post    
thanks Bigd, it was driving me crazy. She just kind of stared at John and then spoke to the other guy. I rarely watch GH and thought with the timing, it had to be him!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I am a John fan but thought Kelly and Alec did a better job...but I hope John wins!

Has Kelly had her lips done - they looked bigger and fuller.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Potted_Plant, the East Coast was only able to vote until 15 minutes after the show aired in our area. At 10:15 I got the "voting in your time zone is closed" message. The only advantage we might've had is that we could vote online until 1:15 our time. A lot of people on the ABC boards were complaining that they only got 15 minutes to vote, not realizing they could've been voting all through the show.

I thought both of them were not quite as smooth as they had been in the past, probably because they were putting so much pressure on themselves. I actually thought Kelly's previous freestyle was better than this last one, even with all the mistakes. John wasn't as smooth as he usually was, but I still think he showed more actual dancing skill than Kelly. The choreography for her, particularly in the cha-cha, seemed designed to chew up a lot of the clock with more stationary wiggling, lying on the floor, the partner combing his hair, etc. I was disappointed that John and Charlotte chose a slow Latin dance rather than the paso doble or the tango where he shined last time. I was also surprised that Kelly and Alex weren't blasted by the judges for doing a quickstep that was the equivalent of Joey and Ashly's "open foxtrot."

How embarrassing that the actual professionals fell on their butts. I guess that goes to show even the best can have those accidents.

Loved seeing the kids. "When I'm a bajillion, gajillion, majillion, million years old, then I'll probably marry him."
"You'll be already dead by then."
"I know. That's why."

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 3:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Loved the kids, too! Bravo to the boys who do it in spite of what classmates might say! And although most of the little girls were on the light-weight side, was great to see one (the twin) with a little more weight on her who could really cut up the floor!

Finding myself being more the dance critic after all the "So you think you can dance" shows! (Really looking forward to that tonight!).
When I was watching the quickstep, I kept thinking that they were taking it out of "closed" position a lot...and weren't they mixing in other dance steps....just like that couple recently on "think you can dance." I was actually surprised at the choice of quickstep after realizing how many couples have been "done in" by it on the other show.
Of John's, loved his waltz the best; also wished they had chosen a different dance for the first number; appreciated the lifts in the last.
One thing that really bothered me that didn't before was the use of modern music with lyrics rather than say "the blue danube". Not sure why it didn't bother me before; maybe spoiled by "you think you can dance" (there must be an abbreviation for that...SYTYCD????...seems awkward).
By the way, best number of the night was the gorgeous foxtrot, I think, by the second professional couple, the husband and wife....beautiful ending!

Producerchic
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06-29-2004

Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 7:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Producerchic a private message Print Post    
Did anyone watch tonight? Who ended up winning, John or Kelly?

Aging_mouse
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08-06-2005

Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Aging_mouse a private message Print Post    
John

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
cwap! Now, they'll probably have to go "2 out of 3."

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 9:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
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I suppose this isn't really a spoiler since someone already said above that John won, but thought I'd try this out, and add some info! John won by ONE PERCENT of the vote; had me nervous whole show because I really wanted him to win. They said next edition of show would be in January. They had John and Kelly dancing together briefly at the very end; would have been nice if that had been a longer bit!


Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Well, they made a point of saying that Kelly is still the champion of the series, and that John is the champion of this dance-off. However, I think that John felt vindicated. Since the phone lines were already jammed after only the first segment, I have to think most callers were basing their opinions on the previous shows.

I bet it came down to the online votes. The way those phone lines for both sides stayed busy right up to the cut-off point meant that both sides were getting the maximum number of calls.

It was great to see Alec and Charlotte dancing with professional partners. Alec and Edyta were doing a lot of moves I recognized from his samba with Kelly. It was interesting to see how they look with a pro performing them. Ditto for Charlotte and the world champion. That waltz was so beautiful it was like "What have we been watching all this time?" Goodness, she even pointed her toes coming down the stairs.

Maybe Kelly and John's dance choices were based on what they didn't perform the first time around. The female celebs had never done the quickstep or the cha-cha, and the male celebs had never done the rumba or the regular waltz (only the Viennese).

Clutterfree, those little twins on Tuesday's show were my favorites (even though they were all adorable). They looked like they may have had more experience. They were great at that hip-twisting move that Artem and Snow always used in their So You Think You Can Dance solos.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, September 23, 2005 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
To put it into even more perspective, they said the money each person won would be determined by the number of votes. Kelly won $124,000 and John won $126,000.

Sis
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08-08-2005

Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sis a private message Print Post    
I thought this show was totally FIXED. I think the network set up the win for John and the Judges comments were so one-sided towards John even when he barely danced.

In the beginning, I was a huge fan of John O'Hurley. But then as the competition went on, it was obvious that Kelly had some talent to go along with her good looks. Kelly actually dances. John O'Hurley positions his partner so she can dance, strikes a pose and gives the audience "the look".

After the results show last night, I decided not to watch this show if it's ever on again. I enjoy watching the dancing, but this IMO this show was a setup for yet another Kelly & John REMATCH.

And John O'Hurley went WAY DOWN in my estimation for creating such a fuss about the first competition. John was a poor sport and came off like a spoiled brat who is used to getting his way. The spotlight didn't hurt him any -- no wonder he is so eager to create controversy -- how many Kelly commercials did we see during the results show vs. the John commercials?

Has anyone actually seen John O'Hurley in anything since Seinfeld ended? John O'WHO? Shame on you John for selling yourself like that. And shame on the Judges for buying their 10 minutes of fame.

Shame on the network for putting on this sham.

Sherbabe
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07-28-2002

Friday, September 23, 2005 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sherbabe a private message Print Post    
oh, like the 1st series wasn't fixed by ABC for Kelly to win.
different strokes, different folks

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
Sis, ita with you. Kelly had such an admirable attitude throughout this series, and John's has been, uh, well the opposite. He actually makes me cringe now.

Not to mention, Kelly was just soooo much more fun to watch!!!

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, September 23, 2005 - 10:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Re fixed: all I know is that I worked really hard pushing buttons for 45 minutes to an hour, mainly getting busy signals, to cast 5 votes per my First Phone Line and 5 votes per my Second Phone Line for John, and then spent an hour on computer (because abc wouldn't send me my password for having registered before) waiting to cast two votes for John at 2 different email addresses.
Considering how hard it was to get through for John (and I know some people weren't able to at all), I doubt it was fixed.

I like both dancers, with very differing styles, and am glad each had a "win". I do think that BOTH of them seemed more tense, not as relaxed as first time round. I was impressed that John specifically tried things (the lifts) that he had not before. And I thought his footwork in the waltz was cool, although I doubt I would have given all "10"s.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 12:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I don't know if the first contest was fixed, but the judges marks certainly were. It wasn't until much later that I found out their marks didn't matter since Kelly had already won the public vote on the previous week's dance. Kelly could've sat on her butt for two minutes, picked up straight 0's from the judges and still won the title because of the screwy scoring system. I think the judges' marks were then rigged to lend legitimacy to the results so that viewers wouldn't wonder why the guy who just outdanced the girl had now lost the competition. Frankly, I'm still disgusted at the high marks Kelly received for her illegitimate paso doble the week before. The judges inconsistent marks were an insult to the viewers and competitors (poor Joey and Ashly) and I don't blame John at all for not keeping silent about it. It's one thing to lose your wallet, but it's another to have it stolen out of your pocket.

I had the opposite reaction than Sis. I thought Kelly was foolish for speaking out in defense of the win. She should've realized how suspicious it looked and simply let the network deal with the controversy. She'd received a trophy for having the most zealous fans, not because she had been the best or even second best dancer in the competition. She was handed a gift. Just take the trophy and run! All her comments did was make outraged viewers all the more determined to straighten her out, which is why the phone lines were jammed from the moment they opened. Her opening "I won fair and square" remark inspired me to dial from beginning to end and vote from all 5 email addresses at my disposal.

Did I see Loni Anderson in the audience or was that just a look-alike?

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 9:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Reader234 a private message Print Post    
Saw Kelly on an entertainment show - her partner said that he knew that they lost based on the positioning of the host/hostess... the host had the microphone and stands by the "winners"!! So he apparently whispered that to Kelly, be prepared, we lost - so they showed a side by side view of her face... and then they interviewed her...

as stated I believe both Kelly and John did show great attitudes!!

Donut
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07-31-2001

Saturday, September 24, 2005 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Donut a private message Print Post    
sis and others, i agree with a lot of that..
I always like O'hurley (he has been on other stuff, hosted some shows, been on animal planet) amd i really liked him on the Dancing with Stars. I grew to like Kelly too and her push to improve and was hard pressed to say who i wanted to win.. but this time he was COMPLETELY a different person to me and hubby too. His light sarcastic, fun ,enthusiastic fun nature seemed to turn into a psycho obsessed with winning serious freak and we found his new persona disturbing and were really pissed that he won, given his personality change and kelly dancing better, although they both danced better the first time around..
I was unaware of the contraversy in the first place. Would someone mind giving a little rundown here of what happned after the show to cause this rematch to occur?

and, for all who loved the kids, you MUST MUST MUST see the movie Mad Hot Ballroom!!! its a documentary about kids in NYC who take ballroom. Its a mandatory class, but they get really into it and go into competitions. They are really outspoken street kids and very endearing and great dancers! We sat and watched it thru almost twice...

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
Great post Donut :-) I am not sure what all exactly led up to the rematch, other than John publicly saying that he was wronged, had the rug pulled out from under him, it was unfair, etc

I so agree with yours & sis' characterizations. I mean, I used to like John too, and was rooting for him early on... it was just kinda shocking and disappointing seeing this side of him surface..

And to think Trista got tagged a sore loser when she facetiously retorted 'it sucks' after being eliminated...

Kc103
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07-13-2004

Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kc103 a private message Print Post    
I'm happy at least it sounds as though as charities benefitted from this rematch. It didn't sound like a good idea to me from the start. I was at a concert the night it aired (and already had vcr's set for BB, RockStar, My Name is Earl, and The Office) so I only saw some of the results show later in the week. I kind of figured that there would never be any definitive "conclusion" to this particular contest. There will always be some tug-of-war between the two factions. I hope that doesn't taint the show for future seasons. Hey, it's only entertainment! It's supposed to be fun!! :-)

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
Probably not a real feud- just an excuse for the network to run another hour of a successful show.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Sunday, September 25, 2005 - 10:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Donut -- the rematch is a result of a VERY poorly judged finale to the regular season. John and Charlotte danced a beautiful last dance, earning straight 9s. Kelly and ?(blanking out) danced an obviously NON-perfect dance (Kelly NOT dancing at least twice, not landing the final move, etc.) and then received straight 10s. It was a joke. Non-dancers could see that she had screwed many things up. Had they said they were judging on improvements, people might have been able to accept that. John started out very good and ended up even better. Kelly started out horrid and ended up passable. Since "improvement" was not part of the judgment, people went ballistic on the straight 10s, thus the rematch.

Northwestblonde
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09-01-2005

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 5:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Northwestblonde a private message Print Post    
Unfortunately, I feel Kelly has the grace of Evander Holyfield...in other words...none. Alec does all of the work to make her look good. What I noticed was how the closer to end the dance-off got, the skimpier Kelly's clothes got...so obvious that she was using her sex appeal to garner votes. John may be a little strange at times, but clearly is the better dancer of the two...maybe if he wiggled his hips more he'd have one the first time.