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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 1:40 pm
Law Firm returns Sept 6 on BRAVO...? http://www.nbc.com/The_Law_Firm/
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 5:23 pm
Hmmmm, so that's why my DVR only picked up two episodes! I had'nt had time to watch until last night, so am catching up. I also thought the DVR had missed an episode two or something, cause at the beginning of the second episode I watched, Roy Black said to the two people (can't remember who they were) that "since you sat out last time..." and I don't remember anyone sitting out. So, the two episodes I saw were with the dog mauling, and with the dominatrix. That was it? Olivier needs to go right away. From the very first time I saw him in the first episode I didn't like him. His smug and smirking attitude is a huge turnoff to me, and I don't find him charming one bit. In fact, Roy Black's warning about how the clients are important to him, and even if the cases are small, they are important to the client. So therefore the cases are important to him too. When Olivier was reading their client's summary of the case, he was smirking and chuckling under his breath about it. I thought that right there should have gotten him eliminated, since it sure looked to me like he thought the case (and the client) was ridiculous and beneath him.
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 10:35 pm
"So, the two episodes I saw were with the dog mauling, and with the dominatrix. That was it? " Yep....those are the only two episodes that have aired. Interesting....I just went back to that link I previously posted and it no longer says that "The Law Firm will air BRAVO starting Sept 6". Now it says "The Law Firm will return to BRAVO soon".
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 2:50 pm
whoop dee doo
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Sunday, September 11, 2005 - 10:47 pm
I saw a commercial on Bravo this evening saying The Law Firm will be airing starting this week. I believe they said Tuesday at 8:00.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 2:01 pm
Is anyone else still watching this? The most recent episode makes me ill. The defense side KNEW their client was lying, but they won anyway because of some game-playing within the courtroom setting. Did they care that their client just won a case that she flat-out shouldn't have? No. They celebrated because they 'won'. The prosecution side didn't present the full case they should have. The guy questioning the petitioner completely left out any questions that would have established why the police came to his house (from the "who called them" angle), which was central to the case. Therefore, the guy who did the summation used the restraining order the defendant had filed earlier to show that she had called the police. These two blunders together allowed the defense attorneys to bring in the entire text of the restraining order (which they KNEW was filled with their client's admitted lies) without having their client testify and without allowing any cross-examination to probe for truth of the issues. ARGH! This is the kind of shenanigans that make people hate lawyers. The adversarial system is there for a reason, but when it becomes ALL about the winning or losing and NONE about truth and justice, it's truly an ugly thing. As for the real people involed here (assuming that they ARE real and not actors hired to play parts), I truly hope that the producers are doing SOMETHING for them. That poor man lost a case where he clearly did nothing wrong simply because some rookie lawyers trying to win a game show mishandled things. Since the case was important in his ongoing effort to gain custody of his son, a lot more was at stake here than a stupid TV show. ARGH!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 8:12 pm
I taped it, havent seen it yet
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 6:19 am
Max, I felt the same way you did about the things that happened in the last episode. In defense of the defense, though...in this situation at least, I don't think they have much choice but to continue with the case. On the episode before, one of the eliminated lawyers got heavy criticism for her response to their client (she felt the client was dishonest and was not pleased with some comments the client made that she felt were derogatory). In real life those attorneys may not have chosen to pursue the case, in the course of the game I think they had to. As for the other side....how on earth do you manage to lose a case when your opponents don't even put up a defense? They didn't present evidence or witnesses at all! In closing statements, this is a point that should have been drummed in. Keith did talk about that, but I don't think he really hammered it in to the jury...and his rebuttal was just plain awful. I was actually thinking Roy Black should have just eliminated that whole team. If Olivier had properly established the phone call thing in direct, Keith wouldn't have blundered and brought in the affidavit that ultimately lost them the case. Does anyone know whether these clients are actually real? I guess I would assume from the whole lie-detector thing that they are...but are they really putting their cases in the hands of people trying to win a reality show? I wondered if perhaps the cases/clients are real, but the trials themselves aren't...that these clients get real trials with real lawyers, too. I would hope so...at least with a case like this with custody involved. Although...you know, the woman did pretty much admit ON NATIONAL TELEVISION that she made the whole thing up to get back at him, so overall this may HELP his custody case.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 10:36 am
Did some research and found this on the NBC Law Firm web page: "The Law Firm", from Emmy Award winning producer David E. Kelley ("The Practice", "Ally McBeal"), features real lawyers competing against each other while trying real court cases with real clients, in front of real judges and juries. The result is riveting with verdicts that are final, legal and binding for the parties. So, it looks like the clients are not only real, but are stuck with the outcomes. Who would put something so important in the hands of reality show contestants?
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 10:52 am
Well, I guess some folks just wanna be on TV or something. I imagine there is some sort of compensation involved. <sigh> I will probably keep watching just out of morbid curiosity to see what happens, but I don't blame NBC for pulling it. Regardless of what ratings were, it's just a sad, sad commentary on the legal system. If the prosecution side had found out their client was bald-face lying like the defendant was in this case, would they have been allowed to be silent about it? Are the attorneys not considered "officers of the court" as they are in criminal cases and thus bound to speak up if their client is lying? My brother is a public defender and maintains that he doesn't want to know whether or not his client actually committed the crime because, it's really not material in the adversarial system. His job is to seek the best outcome possible by keeping the police, prosecution, and other agencies on their toes and following correct legal procedures. If they slip up, he takes advantage of it. Personally, it boggles my mind (especially since we grew up with a Sheriff for a dad), but it is the way the system works. I just wouldn't be able to sleep if I did what he does. Of course, there are always a few cases, I'm sure, where someone really DIDN'T do the crime or where circumstances were such that a defendant was sort of in the wrong place at the wrong time or whatever, but. . . I don't know. I just wish "justice" had more "fair" built into it sometimes because "truth" gets left by the wayside -- as it did in this case -- and it's frustrating.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 2:03 pm
Disappointing episode for sure, but unfortunately true to real life. I'm still very over and done with Olivier. His words weren't even quite as cocky as I remember from the first couple of episodes. But I SOOO want to reach into the TV and slap that smug smirk off his face. Very few people rub me the wrong way at first sight, and he's one of them.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 2:43 pm
I just watched...after this ep I really believe(and hope) they are actors....because of attny client privelage......info is shown to millions.....how could this woman show her face after this show airs??? couldn't the man sue her for lying??? and use this show as proof???
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Citruscitygal
Member
08-07-2003
| Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 8:03 pm
I missed the last episode of this obscure reality TV program, The Law Firm. I followed it from NBC to Bravo and through 3 time changes there and then missed the final episode today at noon. Did anyone see it so they could tell me who was hired by The Law Firm?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:12 pm
I did too, when did they air the last ep?
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:13 pm
rats i forgot to tape it today too
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 1:02 pm
Well, I can tell you girls who was hired..since I forgot that the show was at noon yesterday, but luckily i caught the last few minutes...it was Olivier vs. Michael, and Michael one the job. I know that from what I saw that Olivier won the case, but i think that Michael was the overall winner in all the cases and thats why he won. I did not like him at all, he is a liar, a manipulator, and if ever I were to have a case against a hospital or doctor, I know he is the guy to win it for me...
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 1:56 pm
geesh - michael needed to go LONG ago - he is not a good lawyer even if he won cases and i never would hire him if i had a firm.
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Citruscitygal
Member
08-07-2003
| Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 8:09 pm
Kiersten~ Thank you for the information. Michael wasn't one of my favorites, but at least I know how it turned out.
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Kiersten_love
Member
08-03-2001
| Monday, October 17, 2005 - 12:44 pm
YW Citrus 
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