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Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I doubt Bethany's relationship with Charles' son will or has entered into this. That is small stuff; they don't care. This is all about entertainment and a token job so Martha could come back with the biggest splash possible.

I think Bethany will win because she is the more creative of the two and Martha does not have a chef specializing in heath food on her staff. Making the most out of what appears to be a mistake she will go for that.

There is no doubt in my mind that both Apprentice shows have helping hands behind the scenes for these final tasks, and these events had to have been arranged weeks if not months in advance. AND, perhaps, for this show only. They are judged on the pieces left for them to organize and we are led to believe they did it all. I suspect their job is all final set up and even that is not left entirely to them.

It is just a TV show for entertainment. It is really not about either Trump or Martha getting an employee. It is about getting a piece of the television industry.

I also think the winners are chosen before the final task and the editing supports that decision.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I am so bummed out right now. My beloved JIM!!! I've supported you from the start!! How could they do this to you?!?!

The ONLY reason I will watch the show next week is to see more of Jim, while clinging to the hope that Bethany wins.

The tasks that they were given seem to dictate who would win. I think Dawna got the better task.

I wish I was at home to see Jim on all the various shows. I never really know when Martha is on in my city, and what channel it is on. I've run into it late at night on our "Life" network, but I don't think it is shown consistently.

I think Jim would have done a WAY better job than Bethany in the F2, and potentially given Yawna a run for her money. The producers couldn't have that, so they chose Bethany. Everything about Bethany screams "can't handle it".

<deeeeeep breath>

I'm so bitter right now. Jim would never have been a liability. It pi$$es me off that they go "this isn't a game" when the truth is, IT IS A GAME!!! You must eliminate others, and unlike other interviews, you are given the opportunity to capitalize on your competitors' weaknesses. Grrrr.....

Where are you Tish....what's your take?


PS - Did anyone notice how Dawna and Jim were facing each other in their separate interviews, through the glass walls of the offices? I would TOTALLY be thrown off if I had to watch my competition in their interview, while focusing on mine. Every time they laughed or seemed to be having a good time, I'd be wondering why....

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
I wondered about that too. Jim would be much better for the company than either Bethany or Dawna for the sheer fact he has more to offer!! I can't believe the way the CEO got all skeeved and blew his comments out of proportion. Business is a game and if the CEO doesn' realize that, then Martha needs to find her a new one and pronto!!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I think it has less to do with how much someone has to offer but more with how much they'll fit in. Several of the MSO peeps said that they didn't have the time or inclination to deal with him. He'd be a nightmare to manage. I know that I wouldn't hire him. If you hire someone who is difficult or impossible to manage, you'll have more problems than just that one person. I know. I've lived it.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I'm just really confounded that nobody took Leslie. What don't we know about her that Dawna and Bethany do?

I only saw the first part of the show last night cause a friend called me half way through with a "crisis." Like man troubles count when Ms. Stewart is on!

The way they overdubbed Ms. Stewart's speech to Jim when she let him go was so artificial and stupid. It didn't even sound like something Ms. Stewart would say....totally a Burnett script for her. I have to catch the rerun on CNBC so I can see the challenge part of it.

Oh and what about when they were looking through the memory book. "Oh she's so pretty in that picture!" "She was very nice looking!" For god's sake....they sounded as shallow as me!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I wondered the same thing Tish. Seemed Bethany would have been better off with just about anyone else. Could her choice have been worse? This woman is out for sabotage.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I am rooting for a Bethany win. Dawna reminds me of Maggie from BB, but I like Dawna just don't want her to win.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 4:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I am rooting for Bethany, despite her jaw being alarmingly square. I am shallow that way. I prefer my TV people to be beautiful and flawless.

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
Fruitbat, my daughter noticed that jaw too but I don't see it. I guess I don't have the eye for it, lol.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Since I hadn't really watched much of this show, Bethany's jawline kind of took me aback last night. But then again, so did Dawn's long blonde straight hair!

Obviously, I've missed the storylines. But I take it from the bit of the show I watched last night that Bethany made a lot of enemies on her way to F2. What did she do? Did she totally dis everyone else in the conference room?

BTW, did anyone else get a tad bit freaked out at all the closeups of Martha Stewart's execs mouths as they interviewed the F3? Kinda trippy freaky like way too many drugs freaky. And some of them women should NOT have had quite such a close close-up, if ya know what I mean! <meow>

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Costa, Bethany was on the losing team many times so that set up the situation of fighting to save yourself in the conference room. That included, for all of them, a critique of fellow teammates and how they were responsible for the loss or the weakest link.

Bethany was upbeat and would have been well liked had she not been in that postiion.

And yes on the mouths.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
To the posters above who said that Jim should have been in the final 2, have ya'll watched this show? The dude "acts like" a wack job. If he showed up to mow my lawn (like I have a lawn in the forest) I'd lock the door.

Re Bethany's square jaw, yes, there was something about last night's camera angles that really made it stand out. I wonder why?

The same cameras weren't kind to Dawna. Her face looked saggy and old...a lot like mine. She just needs to gain about 50 pounds and those saggy bits will still be saggy, but a bit plumper. a lot like mine. LOL

Bethany's team choices seem to be just awful. That should guarantee that she will win.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
Jim was on Martha's show today with his wife and kids. They are all so adorable. He made peppermint bark candy with her. He said he has been offered various jobs from non-profits, real estate companies, etc.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Yes, he was quite charming and not obnoxious at all on her show today. His wife is very pretty and his kids are way way way way cute. The baby is so darn cute.

Trini
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07-06-2004

Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 3:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Trini a private message Print Post    
Quoie:I wondered about that too. Jim would be much better for the company than either Bethany or Dawna for the sheer fact he has more to offer!! I can't believe the way the CEO got all skeeved and blew his comments out of proportion. Business is a game and if the CEO doesn' realize that, then Martha needs to find her a new one and pronto!!

I was hoping Jim would be in the final two. I think Jim and others like him will not be hired by bosses like Martha; because Jim is not a YES man, he will tell Martha at some point how the job should be done. He is talented and does have strong ideas, he works fast and also gets the job done. but he is not a yes man!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I honestly hope Ms. Stewart does the un-Old Don thing and, in the finale, says, "Dawna, you just don't fit in. Oh and Bethany? You don't either. Now let me write my notes to you both.

P.S. Alexis doesn't think you fit in either"

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 12:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Jim looked like quite the yes man on Martha's show the other day. She made it quite clear that she liked him and respected his talent as an artist, but that he never had a chance at winning. She must've liked him since she gave him two segments. Sadly, he might've won had he not decided to act like a lunatic. I don't think she could take him seriously after that. His daughters are adorable, though.

I'll be very surprised if Bethany wins, and not just because of her previous Charles connection. The fact that she had been unable to establish connections with any of her associates beside Jim is now working against her, and I would think that would be an important part of doing business. To her credit she is putting the fundraising first, but her team (even Jim) seemed awfully frustrated with her management or lack thereof. Plus, they've not been shy about bringing up performance records, and Dawna's beats Bethany's easily. I don't believe Dawna ever got brought into the boardroom even once.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 4:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Dawna got brought to the boardroom briefly when the Jim/Bethany/Howie/Dawna team lost the QVC challenge. They did not lose that one by much and actually sold more units but their item was cheaper than the other team's item. That gave them a lower gross sales total (which is a very strange way to measure it in my opinion - should have been net profit) and they lost. Bethany led that task and chose not to bring Dawna for the final deliberation, but Dawna was in there for the initial part.

Both Dawna and Bethany have their strengths and weaknesses and both have had an enormous amount of publicity due to the show, so I don't think either (or Jim) have to worry about where their next executive position is coming from.

I wonder if Martha usually promotes from within for executive positions - my company does not hire outsiders much unless they are bringing a significant customer market with them.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 5:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I don't think that Jim's talent outweighs his immature and disruptive persona. I know I would never hire that personality type. He'd need a lot of babysitting.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 6:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I wonder if Beth or Dawna like ketchup?

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
<< I wonder if Beth or Dawna like ketchup? >>

Probably depends on who it is on.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 10:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I heard that Elizabeth Jarosz, from Season 1 is reporting on her site that there is talk of a boycott of Martha's finale by the fired contestants because of her remarks about them ...

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, December 18, 2005 - 11:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
It would be surprising if they really did boycott, since these reality contestants generally can't resist one last chance at camera time. I could've sworn I heard Trump say he didn't hire his casts either, until this most recent season. He still managed to get some good candidates along with the bad. Maybe if Martha hadn't kept the clowns around for good TV, she'd have more true professionals to choose from.

Alisons, that's what I meant about being brought back to the boardroom. The entire losing team always has to show up initially, but Dawna was never one of the ones to get brought back. She was never blamed for any of the losses. I do remember that task when Bethenny sent Dawna back to the suite, but then tried to slam her after she left.

Hmm. As I look over at my TV I see Troy McClain (Trump's Apprentice--first season) has his own show now. It's called "Hometeam." It looks like a lower budget version of Ty Pennington's show. I always liked Troy.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, December 19, 2005 - 12:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
I don't think they could boycott the finale, since it's probably in the contract they all signed that they're required to be there. Think there would be some stiff penalties (financial) for a no-show.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, December 19, 2005 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Besides, I don't think Ms. Stewart would care if she saw most of them again. Let them boycott. I'd rather just watch Ms. Stewart do what she does best than to watch her interact with this crew any longer.