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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 9:41 pm
What a letdown. I agree that this thing was rigged--how obvious could you be, with three 10's? Give me a break. As far as the audience goes, they've got an ABC Soap star on an ABC show--so even the audience votes were almost sure to be in Kelly's favour. Double whammy. Won't watch this fiasco again.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 9:46 pm
Vee, I think most folks know if they don't wanna know the outcome of a show, don't visit the show's thread while the finale is airing. And it is a "little trophy", according to the producers (I posted a link last week that included this little tidbit). That little trophy, and the fact that they get to satisfy some secret dream about being a good ballroom dancer.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 9:46 pm
That was total bullcrap. A 10 designates a perfect score for a perfect dance. There were plenty missteps and he almost dropped her. That is NOT perfect. It was setup for <them> to win. It was elegance vs. flash .. I guess the flashers voted and were the judges. <QT>
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:13 pm
I wonder if we'll hear about the fans negative feelings from what happened in the finale. Access Hollywood - or one of those entertainment shows - usually has a segment about this show the day after it airs. Oh, and I also agree with the judge that said Kelly's first Samba (with the wardrobe malfunction) was better than tonights.
quote:Vee, I think most folks know if they don't wanna know the outcome of a show, don't visit the show's thread while the finale is airing.
I agree. In some of the forums, people want to be spoiled and come in while it's airing on the East coast just for that reason. (The Apprentice is one) And I guess people know that if they don't want to hear about it before watching it, they don't visit the forum until they've watched it, cause it's never been a problem. I know that's what I do in any forum. I think of a "spoiler" as something written that happens on a future episode.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:15 pm
Thanks Vee!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:17 pm
eeewww Patrick Swaze looks bad
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:18 pm
Even though John didn't win I think this show will bring great things to him. I really hope he hosts this show next time
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Serenity
Member
06-28-2005
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:25 pm
I missed this show, but thanks to all of your comments I won't even waste my time finding a tape if John did not win. 
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:28 pm
I guess the spoiler confusion is because with a show like The Apprentice there are separate threads for each episode as they air, sometimes with "spoiler" in the title. Still, it has become the norm to post spoilers in these single-thread shows as well, so Costacat and Luvmykitties had the best advice. Stay away if you don't want to know. I'm just glad there wasn't money riding on this dance contest. Maybe that's why ABC thought they could get away with manipulating the outcome. At least O'Hurley got a lot more fans and attention. It feels like the ones who really got robbed were the viewers, who invested 6 weeks in this without seeing a fair ending. Serenity, the show is still well worth watching for John and Charlotte's free style routine alone. I'm glad I recorded it because I have got to see that again.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:40 pm
well said Curlyq I loved watching the practice sessions. John is always hilarious. I laughed out loud with his "this should have Kelly & Alec shaking in their boots" when they kept falling on the lifts. 
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Sillycalimomma
Member
11-13-2003
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:42 pm
Well, im watching it right now and couldn't wait to see who won. I knew I could come here and find out from my wonderful TVCH friends! I am so disapointed! John really deserved to win. I hope he didn't get too down about it...it seemed like a much bigger deal to him. grrrr.....
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Sillycalimomma
Member
11-13-2003
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:50 pm
may I just add as well-I suppose if you prance around half naked all the time you could get your way....even if it is not deserved. hmphf.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:51 pm
Ok I just their last dance..she totally fell at the end and they give her a frickin 10!!???????? She also had a few other slips and mis steps.....totally bogus judges!!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 10:52 pm
Luv, that line had me LOL also!!! LOVE JOHN!
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Countrydaze
Member
11-07-2003
| Wednesday, July 06, 2005 - 11:48 pm
Whew.......I guess I won't be too popular, but I voted for Kelly and that was based on last weeks show where she was the best dancer by far IMHO. I do agree she had mistakes in the show tonight, but she was only ahead by one point with the judges scores and you have to remember that the fan votes were due to last weeks show. By the way I do not watch General Hospital, and I am a fan of John and thought he was very very good. I would have been happy with either of them winning, but I have to say I am surprised at how extremely angry some people are..... I think Kelly improved a lot over the weeks as did they all and I think she handled herself very well, in the beginning when she was harshly judged. Anyhow, I enjoyed the show and look forward to seeing the next one.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 12:54 am
see that's why I don't like the voting set up. Hypothetically; what if Joey had won the fans votes by a landslide from his performance the week before - it wouldn't have mattered because he got eliminated by the judges scores. They need to come up with a better system - IMO Although I missed the earlier shows, I saw the clips they showed and was able to see Kelly's progress. Without a doubt she improved a lot. What angers me is that she clearly did not deserve a perfect score across the board - when she clearly did not have a perfect performance. (Personally, I think both performances were the worst of their last 3 shows). The judges did not score that performance appropriately. If I felt the judges gave her an appropriate score, and she won by the fans votes, then I'd be disappointed because I wanted John to win - but I wouldn't be upset or angry.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 3:23 am
I think the voting setup is flawed, as has been stated above, but I'm with Countrydaze and was shocked by the flood of negative reactions.. that said, I can't say I've been evaualting routines, just sorta watching, halfway, but I was happy for the winners. I thought John peaked early and then didn't improve, while Kelly did improve. I thought, seeing Trista again, wow, she really did deserve to be booted early. As for spoilers, the only caution is to try not to put the critical info in the first few words because someone may see them while using new msg feature, but spoiling in a thread like this is perfectly ok.
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 5:08 am
I'm surprised as well. I don't see anyone complaining about the one low score from the judge on Kelly and Alec's first dance, which I thought was superb. But c'mon, this was a dance contest with a bunch of B-listers where the prize was nothing more than a trophy. Is it really worth all this angst?
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Jennabeesmommy
Member
06-06-2004
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 5:57 am
I was glad she won. She worked her butt off and deserved it.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 6:02 am
Wait? Was there a Russian Judge? Give out two trophies!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 6:57 am
IMO the judges were jokes right from the start. The judges set the tone by being so mean to Kelly. People like to stick up for the underdog. She was a great sport throughout and handled the judges with grace. Which I think endeared her to the viewers. At the end of the day I was happy Kelly won. I would have been happy for John too. And no I'm not a Gh'er. I'm not so sure how big of a veiwing base GH has but I think it's too simplistic to blame GH and the fans for her viewer popularity. If anything I think her hot body had the guys calling in for her. A local morning radio talk show would talk about the show and they'd have tons of guys calling in saying how hot she is and that they thought she was the best abd voted for her regularly in hopes to continue to get glimpses of her.
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:32 am
Just wandering around some other boards no one is very happy Kelly won. Even Kelly fans cannot defend the perfect scores. IMO the problem is the "perfect 10s". Sure she is spunky and sure she's improved quite a bit since the beginning of the season but there wasn't anything remotely "perfect" about the final performance. Her "footloose" and her original "wardrobe malfuntion" performances were better than her last performance. Last night she clearly missed steps, was off beat, and had a bad landing on the final move. If they had giving her 9s I wouldn't be happy, but I would have thought "well, it's a matter of opinion". But calling the dance "perfect" when the most novice eye can pick out obvious and serious mistakes? That's what makes me p.o.'d. I think ABC got a little too eager to either emphasize a ABC star and/or were a little to eager to have a "an underdod wins" storyline. I'm not sure if I'll watch a future season. I know for sure my mom won't. She actually walked away after Kelly got the perfect 10s and wouldn't come back. She's ademant "it's all a set-up".
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Vee
Member
02-23-2004
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:35 am
Not to beat a dead horse, but I will never post in the first few words of my post the outcome of any show because of the "new message feature." That way, no member can say s/he saw something that s/he would prefer not to have seen. (I have read that complaint a few times before.)I will not, however, use the word "spoiler" again for space purposes. I'll sing for you instead. No response from ABC yet...big surprise!
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Gina8642
Member
06-01-2001
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:39 am
IMO - Inaba's score of 7 on the first dance was all part of the set-up as well. Kelly's first dance wasn't that bad. IMO it was all an effort to re-inforce the underdog feeling of kelly, so that the only way to come back was to get perfect 10s. Then, lo and behold she does!!! I think they thought people would be happy that the underdog won. Not me ABC. I prefer honest judging to a manipulated "happy ending". Ugh!!! (I also feel really bad for Kelly. I wonder how she will feel when she learns everyone on the message boards is saying all this stuff about her win. Up until last night she had nothing to feel bad about. As many have said she improved greatly. She was spunky. She made great reality TV. Now it just looks set-up from beginning to end. Bummer for her.)
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Yesitsme
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 7:49 am
I definitely agree that Kelly's performance was not technically perfect and did not deserve a 10, but I also felt that John's last performance did not deserve a 9. It appeared to me (and I am nowhere close to a dance judge)that Kelly's performance included a lot more difficulty and dance elements and took a lot more chances and maybe the judges gave it to them for that. She grew the most in the competition, while John's performances were consistent throughout. I do think John was correct when he said that he was matched with the best partner....she choreographed things very well for the two of them. Overall I think they all did beautifully and I would have been pleased with either winning.
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