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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 5:18 am
Cpmfinster. I agree, He will hire them both. The voice over on the promo gave that away. There is no other first left unless this happens. Too bad, it would have been a nice surprise. I liked Alla and thought she did a good job on every task. I was surprised to see both Trump and Bill go after her straight away. I have to wonder what he would have done if Rebecca and Randall lost this task. It could have happened. Both presentations were poor. I will guess production told them to name Randall and Rebecca the winners. He also could have pulled another first and had all of them come to the board room. His reasoning, then, would have been performance on the task as opposed to the end product.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 6:50 am
CRUMB!!! Does anyone have last night's episode on tape that I can beg/borrow/buy from you? I forgot to set my VCR, and I didn't record The Apprentice or ER. HELP!!!! I'll be forever in your debt! Please send me a PM if you do... Thanks!!!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 7:21 am
Did anyone else get a chuckle from Randall's camera segment where he said he got to see his wife? That was just such a sweet moment...and his tee heeing afterwards made me laugh out loud. I thought Alla and Felica could have lost this task based on their presentation alone. Their choice of wardrobe clearly shows they are not in touch with a client's expectations. Rebecca and Randall dressed conservatively and in line with what the Microsoft exec's were wearing...while the ladies did appear to be ready for a sunday barbeque. I know its a small thing, but it is very important in business to be aware of your client's view of you and your organization. It was very clear that Randall and Rebecca understand this tiny detail....but Alla and Felicia seemed to think it is more important to match each other. I like Felicia, but Trump is right, she would not last in NY business...she is not "hard" enough. I liked Alla up until last night when she resorted to out and out lying to save her butt. I don't find that acceptable, and obviously neither did Trump. I like the fact that Trump no longer feels the need to play out the charade by keeping people he obviously doesn't like or has no intention of choosing...
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 7:57 am
I always find it so amusing when these people lie. Since everything they do is being taped, I think it would be great if just once, Carolyn...or Bill...or George said "You do know we have that on tape, don't you?"...and then they'd just show the clip. Randal's "I got to see my wife" was one of the cutest things ever. He is just adorable. And when he said he'd have been "vexed" if they hadn't won...I just love Randal!
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 8:47 am
I found some things interesting last night: 1. When Trump met the MS execs at the end, he crossed over the lady to shake the man's hand first. What is up with that? There are two options: Trump is sexist or the man was the senior exec. We may all agree with Trump as a sexist in his private life, but would he disrespect a client? 2. Trump specifically said that R&R "stole" the megaphones. I think this a poor choice of words. While we have argued the ethics of what they did, if Trump really thinks they stole them, and is praising them for it, that seems stupid. 3. Alla is in complete denial and so full of herself. Maybe she is used to that from her days being worshipped as a lap dancer. 4. I have a chance with Rebecca since she didn't look as attached to her Matt, than for example, Randall did to his wife. Dalm.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:03 am
LOL Dalm for your #4. I totally agree with #1. I noticed the same thing and thought it odd. Maybe I'm too old fashioned for the NY business world but I would have thought he would defer and greet the female first. Oh well. He is who he is and people let him get away with lots, I'm sure, because of that. I like the final two and am impressed with both of them. Who says nice guys can't finish first?
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:24 am
I really wish Alla would have just let Felicia do both the acting and directing like she seemed to want to. I don't understand exactly what Alla lied about. I could see that she was hard to manage but Felicia was very confusing. But, Randall and Rebecca were two of my favorites the whole season so I'm happy for them.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:24 am
I also noticed #1, but I originally thought that Trump should have shaken her hand first, not because she's a lady, but because she was closest to him as Trump walked up to them. But now that Dalm brings it up, I have seen senior execs greeted first...just never really thought of it as protocol...
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:28 am
Alla was the one who changed the original idea when they had to cut down from 2 and 1/2 minutes to 60 seconds. She had a "brainstorm"... and she was the one who wanted all the verbage... Alla did the restructuring of the video...and then lied bold faced to Trump when he asked whose idea it was... Then to add insult to injury, she called Felicia a liar...and even Trump said that wasn't true. Alla has no one to blame for her firing but herself...she went in there determined to be cutthroat and fight tooth and nail. I think Trumps words were "steamrolling"...LOL
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:36 am
#1. It is proper etiquette to shake a womans hand only when she initiates it. He waited for her to extend her hand.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:41 am
Good point Fruitbat. I guess I'm still in the dark ages and thought he could extend his hand towards her first, then she would respond. I love these boards 'cause they give me viewpoints outside of my "box" and appreciate looking at things in a different light.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 9:42 am
Kep, I wish I could re-watch because it looked like they were both doing the editing of the video to me. I believe I did miss something because why else would DT, Bill and Carolyn all three be going after Alla?
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:05 am
Denecee...yes they did work on it together. Trumps question was whose idea was it. It was Alla's idea, and after much discussion from Felicia, Alla finally got her way. Do you remember the point where Felicia's voice over said something to the effect the only way to get this done was for her (Felicia) to step back and let Alla do it her way? Alla then tried to lie and say it was Felicia's idea. When Felicia said it wasn't, that it was Alla's...Alla said that Felicia was lying. Trump didn't buy it. He must have seen the tapes.
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:12 am
Fruitbat, In all my years of business, where remarkably everyone was treated as equal, everyone shook everyone else's hands and we never waited for a woman to stick her hand out first. Just my observations. Where did you find that that is "proper". I would love to read that and see if it applies in a business setting. Thanks, Dalm.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:26 am
I always reach out to shake hands with people we do business with. Not long ago, we had some business men come over from New Zealand, when I offered my hand they seemed surprised like who the heck are you? I am woman, hear me roar!<--which I can do very loudly when need be. Thanks Kep, there was quite a bit of bickering between Alla and Felicia, so I guess I was distracted and didn't catch all that.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:36 am
Regarding what Trump would do if R&R lost: I think they were setting both teams up to potentially "lose" the task. With R&R, they showed Carolyn saying "How much time did you spend on that?" I think there was the potential to say that Randal and Rebecca's video looked amateur and rushed, and not enough information was given about the project. But, I agree with the person who suggested Trump decided that the blondes would be fired. There were flaws in both presentations. I really like this season of surprise double firings. It really forces people to not be satisfied with second-worst performance. There has been a lot of that in the Kelly and the Kendra seasons. I am disappointed that after all Burnett does to make this season exciting with the double firings, he goes and completely gives away the finale. Why watch? I know what's going to happen. I am glad we didn't see the round of interviews this year. That show always bored me. Dalm - I TOTALLY picked up on Rebecca's indifference to her boyfriend's presence. It was like an "Oh.....you're here......hi." and an obliged hug. I didn't sense tension, so you may have to be a little patient, but there is definitely room for you to squeeze in there!!
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:45 am
Eeye.... While there is room and I am patient and I dress better than that dork, Mrs. Dalm really does not like the idea. Dalm.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 10:49 am
Am I the only one who thought Rebecca's boyfriend looked like a distant Osmond cousin? I immediately thought about the Osmond brothers when he stepped onto the boat...LOL
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:15 am
Costa - I don't have a tape, but The Apprentice repeats on CNBC if you have cable. Tonight and Tuesday night. Hope that helps!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 11:23 am
Thanks Kar! It'll air here at 5pm and 8pm on CNBC. Thanks to Nimtu and Cd for PM'ing me! 
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 1:48 pm
I noticed Rebecca's indifference to her boyfriend's arrival too! Sort of looked like she was thinking, "I was all ready to have this elegant experience on this yacht, and now you show up? What a let down!" Kinda looked like her real life is several levels down from the life she's looking for as a Trump Apprentice, and she didn't like the two lives meeting up. Makes me wonder if there'll be room in her life for the guy if she gets hired. I agree the meeting didn't look tense, just looked like she didn't want to be brought back down to Earth at that moment. My main gripe with the losing video was all the text the viewer was supposed to read, but it went by way too fast to read! And I'm not even a slow reader! By the time the text would settle into position, and my eyes would just start to focus on the material, it would fly back off the screen for the next shot! Odd the execs didn't mention that part. Only that there was "too much" to read (or something like that).
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 2:22 pm
All I can say is GO RANDALL! I really like this guy. But I like Rebecca, too, I just think Randall is the better overall choice. At least from what they've let us see. 
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 2:30 pm
I really wish they would light Randall better. Sometimes they are so careless about it and it doesn't take that much work. I cannot figure out why Alla and Felicia thought it was a good idea to dress like the Bobsy twins for that horrible presentation.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 2:45 pm
I think the big surprise is that he hires both, what else could it be at this point? Sam comes back and picks the winner??
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, December 02, 2005 - 3:13 pm
Rebecca is cool too 
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