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Ramsfan
Member
01-27-2004
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 10:22 am
I just kept thinking of the A&E show "Family Plots". Surely the family agreed to it, I would think. I knew the men would lose when they said they had it "in the bag". It seems that every reality show edits that way. Chris was stupid to only bring in Markus (or even to bring him in at all). He could have brought Markus and the lowercase "i" in italian guy. Then he could have his opinion but not completely blow the Donald's ideas off. The women did a great job. The only thing I didn't like was the presentation. While it was miles better than the men, I thought it was really cheesy!
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:34 am
I loved the men's video. btw I don't need permission...I NEED $$$$$$$$
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 11:44 am
Adven, yes. Trump was aching to fire the other guy. He said as much.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 1:14 pm
The conference room scene takes a couple of hours to tape. It would be wise for the project managers to listen carefully to what and who Trump sees as the problem, whether they agree or not. Accept that his view may differ from what actually happened but he is the one to choose who goes. Take whoever Trump is targeting, no matter what. Contestants latch onto friends very quickly and protect each other, often to their own demise.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 3:12 pm
Here's the problem, though. If the PM brings in someone who came up with bad ideas, won't they just ask the PM why he approved them? The lowercase i guy may have had a bad idea, but the PM had the authority to say no and chose not to. The responsibility would've still fallen on Chris. If Trump really wanted to fire the lowercase i guy he could've done it. He's fired people without narrowing it down to three before. I think he's just getting miffed that they're only choosing to bring one this season. Statistically it seems unwise, but why make an unnecessary enemy if nobody else on your team can be blamed for the failure?
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 3:34 pm
If Markus is a plant then that might be why DT was really 'hinting' for him to bring back another person.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 2:17 am
I am always surprised when the Project Manager chooses only ONE person to come back to boardroom. In this case Chris NEEDED to bring in someone to back him in his attack on Markus. The guy truly was uncontrollable and needed to be sidelined(marginalized). Chris seemed to get flustered in the boardroom and really needed to be backed. There would have been a small chance that DT would see that Markus was detracting from the group. Interesting how DT happily gets rid of women for simply 'not fitting in' yet protects markus. Last year Stacy was fired 'just because'...and this year the hispanic woman (cant remember name) was gotten rid of because the others didnt like her and she made the mistake of admitting she didnt work WELL with women because they were intimidated by her. DT jumped on that statement...yet, there is no doubt that Carolyn is terribly intimidating. Double standard.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 10:18 am
Well, Sunshyne, I think Carolyn may be intimidating, but there's a BIG difference between that and just outright not being able to get along with other women. I've never heard Carolyn claim that other women don't like her cause she's just too pretty! DH made a point which I wish Chris had brought up to DT in the boardroom. Markus was very disloyal to his group when the judges made some remark that he agreed with and he basically said, "Yes! I tried to tell them that!" Would DT want someone who would so easily turn on his own team working for him? Would he put up with an employee speaking out like that in a business meeting??? I think not.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 10:26 am
I think DT has Markus' number real well. You could tell by the little "discussion" they had after the boardroom (just before Markus left the room) that DT was disgusted with Markus. DT knows there will be ample opportunity to get rid of Markus...Markus' behavior will ensure that...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 10:40 am
Didn't DT make a big big stink of someone not being loyal before? I want to say it was Pamela, but I can't think who it was. If I recall correctly, they got booted in large part because they weren't loyal. Can anyone refresh my memory?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 1:56 pm
excellent point Babyjaxmom! Would DT want someone who would so easily turn on his own team working for him? Would he put up with an employee speaking out like that in a business meeting??? I think not.
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 5:04 pm
Julieboo, No it wasn't Pamela. It was the crazy one. Can't remember her name (Diane or something)? She said in the BR that they were "duped". He didn't like Pamela because he thought she was a know it all. Pamela was probably the strongest woman, but maybe to strict in her leadership. I also meant to reply about the last episode ... Chris should have done an "Ivana-like" thing and brought Mark into the Boardroom. In Ivana's case though, it was more extreme because she totally blew the task whereas Chris didn't. But in both cases the "Donald" was basically indicating who he wanted to fire. Ivana was smart and picked up on the foolish move that Bradford made. But Chris ignored DT practically begging him to bring Mark in and screwed himself. He probably thought he'd be screwing over his friend Mark if he brought him in, but give up your spot for your friend??? I don't think so.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, October 03, 2005 - 6:23 pm
Yeah, the duped thing is ringing a bell...
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 6:28 am
Tammy was the one who said duped. It was the first season and the task was to renovate an apartment, then rent it. Because both PMs (Troy & Katrina) wanted the same property, they ended up having a coin toss to decide it. Troy's team won the coin toss and eventually won the task. Katrina was very bitter about it because she felt Troy had been dishonest in their dealings. When the teams assembled to find out the results of the task, Katrina attacked Troy's dishonesty. Katrina and Troy debated whether he'd been dishonest or she'd just been outmaneuvered. Katrina said it was clear that Troy was dishonest. Trump made the statement "Well, it was clear, but he duped you". Katrina contended she had never been duped in her life. And Tammy piped up with "I think we got duped." The other team laughed, her team was not amused. And Trump went on to fire her for her disloyalty. I don't think Tammy was exactly a stellar performer up to that point, but the disloyalty thing was a bit of a stretch for a reason to fire her. Trump was the one who initially said Katrina'd been duped. Tammy basically just agreed with him. Certainly, being disloyal to your team IN FRONT OF THE CLIENT (Markus) is worse than the circumstances under which Tammy said it...but, whatever. I didn't think the firing of Chris was uncalled for. After all, he pretty much told him not to bring Markus, because he wasn't going to fire him. Maybe Trump has learned from past firings.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 7:06 am
Wow Cdbga, THANKS!!! That was it! I don't remember Tammy, but I do remember thinking Katrina did get duped. I liked Troy and liked how he outsmarted her. And therefor she was duped! Tammy said it how it was, I never thought of that as being disloyal. (As opposed to Markus who was disloyal cuz he said stuff in front of the client!)
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 3:58 pm
You know what would really ad to this show...some input from the people who choose which team wins. For instance, I would love to know what those two Lamborghini execs though of Markus blurting out stuff during the meeting when he wasnt the Chairperson? I would assume that inappropiate behaviour would be obvious to the execs. In Many tasks involving Companies (like the year they had to design a brochure for a car and Ivana? chose the CD shape) I feel the people who made the decision should have had lots on input Prior to the boardroom OR.....are we to assume that the Company execs tell Carolyn and the other man ALLL the details?? (darn I've gone blank and cant remember his name... George?>?)
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 5:44 pm
I'd like to see those execs posting on the web site! Then they could "blog" their thoughts and reactions to each team's performance. THAT would be fun! HELLOO ---- NBC!!! Do you hear us???? (yeah, right)
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