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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Monday, September 12, 2005 - 11:21 pm
The season premiere is tonight (Tuesday, Sept 13th). It's 90 minutes and starts at 8PM (on NBC, of course). Here's the link to the official site. And here's the page with all the contestant info.
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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Monday, September 12, 2005 - 11:27 pm
An article from zap2it.com: 'Biggest Loser' Fights Another Battle of the Bulge (Monday, September 12 12:13 PM) By Rick Porter LOS ANGELES (Zap2it.com) The first season of "The Biggest Loser" tried to dispel the notion that there's a quick-fix way to achieve long-term weight loss. That idea remains front and center in the second season of NBC's surprise hit, which debuts Tuesday (Sept. 13). The new cycle, though, will also tackle another widely held myth: that men lose weight quicker than women. The 14 "Biggest Loser" contestants are divided by gender in what host Caroline Rhea calls "a fascinating psychological experiment." "It really blows up the myth that women can't lose weight as fast as men," executive producer J.D. Roth says. To even the playing field, the teams are judged on the by the percentage of weight lost this season. For instance, if a 200-pound woman loses 10 percent of her body weight, that's 20 pounds. A 300-pound man would need to lose 30 pounds to match her. The men-vs.-women setup also tested the abilities of "Biggest Loser" trainers Bob Harper and Jillian Michaels, who took charge of their opposite gender. Michaels puts it this way: "I feel like I was running a frat house for three months, and Bob was running group therapy." "She could not be more correct. That's exactly what it was," Harper says. "There were times that I'd watch Jillian, and she was just, like, partying with the guys. They were working out, screaming and yelling, jumping up and down. And I'd walk into a -- no, I can't say that -- I'd walk into this cry-fest." Michaels marvels at her counterpart's ability to deal with his charges, urging him to tell the "tuna in oil story." "One girl was convinced she was going to be able to eat tuna packed in oil, and she just didn't understand why [she couldn't]," Harper says. He ended up buying cans of tuna to show her the difference in calories and fat between tuna packed in water or oil. "I found out that with the women, it was all about asking why, where the men are more like, 'Okay, I'll just do it.'" The 14 contestants this time include a doctor who wants to set a better example for his patients, two police officers worried about their lack of fitness -- one of whom can't fit into his bulletproof vest -- and a former college wrestler who now weighs about twice what he did when he was competing. Michaels hopes those stories will bring viewers to "The Biggest Loser" as much the diet and exercise tips doled out in each week. "It brings a whole new dynamic to it," Michaels says of the new cast. "I think people will identify with one contestant or another, and that will help inspire them and motivate them. It's a completely different show every time in that way." One thing that didn't change, though, was the contest. The losing team still sends a player home each week, with the last person left claiming the "Biggest Loser" title and a $250,000 prize. Harper and Michaels aren't thrilled with the competitive aspect of the show, but they understand it's a necessary part of making a television show. "What Bob and I take solace in is that we've educated them to such a degree that they go home and continue the lifestyle they learned on the ranch," Michaels says. "You're always going to win some and lose some, but we win most of them."
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Cablejockey
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12-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 8:29 am
I watched last night and cant wait to see how they all do. One thing I thought was a little strange was letting everyone eat all this junk food until they were so full. They didnt do this last year--that I can remember--and I was hoping that at least someone would stand back and say no. They came all that way, you would think having a last meal of forbidden foods would be behind them now.
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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 11:54 am
Call me a cynic, but I thought they brought the contestants in the room full of food to get some "good TV" footage. Many of the people began binging. They were shovelling food in their mouths and getting it all over their faces. It was kind of like saying, "Look how out of control these people are!" Don't be surprised if they show that footage again at the end of the show to dramatically illustrate how far the remaining contestants have come.
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Cablejockey
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12-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 12:12 pm
I guess that's the price they make you pay to be on one of these shows. I really felt sorry for the guy who was a wrestler in college. I wonder what happened in his life that allowed him to gain so much weight.
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Not1worry
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07-30-2002
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 3:24 pm
I thought that the binge session was to pump up their initial weigh in numbers. Still, I would have been so concious of the cameras there. The lady who was licking the chocolate fountain? She's going to hate watching that. I found it physically impossible to watch this sitting still. 15 minutes into the show, I was up doing lunges and squats. Having struggled with weight, I did find it inspired me. I don't want to get to the point that some of the people were at. If I had someone cooking my meals and nothing better to do than exercise all day, I'm sure I could make great progress too!
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Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 3:35 pm
I think I'll like this season better than the last...this seems to be better...more personality. I think Wrestler guy is the most motivated of them all. Stand out moment for me: What's her name only having a negligee as her inspiring outfit. And my bad, but when they were all wearing their inspiration T-shirts with their motivational quote on them at the weigh in...the way the camera hit one of them...I thought it read: "So I can see my own PP." I busted out laughing...until I realized it didn't say that.
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Lylakitty
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07-30-2005
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 4:13 pm
Oh, tooooo funny, Nick!! LOL!!!! Love this show...so glad it's back. Last year it "inspired" me to lose 62 lbs...hoping it will motivate me again!! I too liked the wrestler guy...hope he succeeds.
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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 7:47 pm
(((Lylakitty))) Way to go loser 
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Curlyq
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07-10-2002
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 9:14 pm
When I watch this show I get the urge to snack. That scene with the binge eating did feel exploitative. Remember when they did this last year and only one guy grabbed something and ate it? The rest were disgusted with him for doing that. Another change is that it seems like the women this year are much heavier than last year, but that could be my imagination. It seemed like last year the women didn't lose nearly as much weight because they didn't have as much extra to lose. In fact they all seem to be heavier than last year's cast.
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Konamouse
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07-16-2001
| Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 9:59 pm
I found it interesting that both the trainers have changed their nutritional message (well, Jillian moreso). They both pointed out that the focus is calories (not carbs). And the emphasized points were correct (dump the processed foods, women 1200-1500 kcals, etc). Ah hah!! They have a real Registered Dietitian as a nutrition consultant this year. Biggest Loser Nutritionist Cheryl Forberg, RD
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Whoami
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08-03-2001
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 3:01 pm
Didn't care for the "binge" segment. Sure, being overweight has a lot to do with poor eating habits. But it really gets my goat that the preconceived notion is that overweight people will automatically stuff food down their throats, smear it all over their faces and just gorge until they are ready to puke. Unless I missed it, looks like they cut out that cheesy and offensive "Time to cut the fat" line at the elimination ceremony. Thank goodness for that if its true.
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Meagain
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07-20-2005
| Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 10:02 pm
Whoami - But they DID automatically stuff food down their throats, smear it all over their faces and just gorge untill they are ready to puke. I don't think anyone held a gun to their heads. The group is really fat this year compared to last.
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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 12:00 am
I finally got a chance to watch the premiere. I LOVE that they are using the Heather Small song "Proud" as the new theme song! I love that song and always cry when I hear it. The lyrics are so inspirational. I also like that they have made changes to make the show better. I don't agree with the promotion of calorie counting, but it is a step up from promoting proteins over carbs. I think they cast a group of really likable people. Last season, I disliked most of the cast. Not only had they cast people who were big in size, but they also had big personalities. That doesn't seem to be the case this time (which is refreshing). Matt (the former wrestler) has some serious issues. I'm with Cablejockey and would love to know what Matt's story is. Here's the one thing that remains a mystery to me. If anyone can explain it, please do: Ok, logically, you'd think if these people were overweight, chances are they haven't been exercising on a regular basis for a long time (if ever). But judging from the editing, it seems like a day after getting to the ranch, they are made to do hardcore workouts--repeatedly--during the day. How can anyone safely go from living a sedentary lifestyle to going to the other extreme? It just doesn't seem right. Watching 350+lb men doing jacks and plyometrics, to me, is just asking for trouble.
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Ntegrity
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06-28-2005
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 5:46 am
They seem to have picked some really pretty ladies this year. You know the old saying, "Her face is so pretty, if she would just loose some weight" They are going to be knockouts when they lose weight!
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Bearlee
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05-18-2005
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 12:31 pm
I watched this too. I'm curious to see how they all do. One big thing I noticed: Caroline Rhea seems to have lost a bit of weight herself. I just started my own weight loss program & exercising min 3times a week.
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Kady
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07-30-2000
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 2:08 pm
it repeats tonight if anyone missed it the first time. i missed the last 30 minutes cause i switched over to House.
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Sasha
Member
07-22-2005
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 3:27 pm
I thought the same thing about Caroline, Bearlee. Have you seen Kristy Allie's new commerical. She looks great!!! Good luck on your weight loss program Bearlee. Hopefully this show will treat the contestants with respect. I did find the binge section a little sensationalist. Does anyone know if they get any support after the show? Even though I am not considered overweight, I do have to work at it every single day. It just don't end once you lose the pounds.
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Meagain
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07-20-2005
| Saturday, September 17, 2005 - 9:27 pm
I was dissapointed the first show didn't expound on the workout program. Also, I don't care if they're working out 5 hours a day, I find it unfathomable someone can lose 28 pounds in 1 week. I could see 10 (lots of water loss), but TWENTY-EIGHT? I don't see how this is physically possible.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 5:15 am
What percent wait loss for that person was it? If you have alot to lose, the initial number of lbs can be higher.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 7:02 am
I don't see how this is physically possible. I wondered about that as well. Granted, men do lose weight faster. And, granted, the bigger people do lose more quickly at the beginning, but still... By the way, if anyone is interested, Jillian has some workout DVDs being released on Sept. 27th. Here's the Amazon.com link.
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Meagain
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07-20-2005
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 10:31 am
The inital loss would be comprised of alot of water. But 28 pounds? Someone has to explain this one to me. I went to the site to look at the training protocols. Jillian's is 1 hour cardio in am followed by 1 hour weights. At night 1 hour spinning, kickboxing, etc. About 1500 cal/day. The guys seem to have less workout time, but a couple hundred less calories/day. Still, I'd like to have access to the special site to get specifics but won't pay the $20/month. That's crazy. If anyone is really into it and starting a program 'with' the show and spent the money - I'd love to hear details about it.
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Sasha
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07-22-2005
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 1:23 pm
Personally, I know a woman who was ~225 pounds that lost 13 pounds in one week. She did it by not eating carbs for 3 days. Supposedly by not eating carbs for 3 days, you are jumpstarting your metabolism (not sure if that is true?). She also worked out for about 90 minutes 5 times a week. About 30 minutes of it was cardio. Then she only lost about 2-3 pounds a week after that until she plateaued. When this happens it is quite easy to gain back the weight. Your body becomes use to the restrictions and workouts and acts accordingly. At this point, a shake up in your workout rountine and another 3 days without carbs (based on her program) is recommended. That being said, each person is different and reacts differently to the three day carb restriction. For my mother who tried it, she became violently ill. When I tried it, I suffered severe migraines. So I am guessing if this woman could lose 13 pounds doing this without one of those trainers, it may be possible to lose 28. I am uncertain if it is healthy. I always thought a 1-2 pound weight loss a week was recommended and easier to maintain.
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Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002
| Sunday, September 18, 2005 - 2:59 pm
Again, I want to know how can someone go from no or little exercise to doing two hours of cardio and one hour of strength training per day? (Or, as Sasha's friend did--work out for 90 minutes a day.) Don't people need to work up to that much exercise or else they will burn out?
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