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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, May 30, 2005 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
I was watching the John McCain movie on A&E and flipped over on a commercial to start taping this about 20 min. in. Did I miss anything of any importance or will further watching be adequate? (I haven't watched my tape yet..btw.. just saw a bit while I was rewinding a tape to put in..)

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, May 30, 2005 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Watching2, you'll be fine. First 20 mins was Gordon taste testing the contestants signature dish. Gordon was his charming self.

Herckleperckle
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11-20-2003

Monday, May 30, 2005 - 9:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Herckleperckle a private message Print Post    
Nothing that wasn't mentioned in the thread, Watching. I forgot about that movie, darn it!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, May 30, 2005 - 9:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Just FYI... any patrons in that restaurant that appear on camera would've had to sign a release form. So yeah, they likely knew something about what was going on.

I haven't seen it yet (still another 35 minutes or so), but I'm gonna watch it. I'm not real wild about Gordon's 'tude, but it sounds like it may be interesting. At least for a while... And since there's nothing else on! :-)

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, May 30, 2005 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Watching2 a private message Print Post    
Thanks gang! I did see some of the taste testing while I was rewinding my tape. Wow... that guy is a nightmare. Yikes! I thought Carol Ann was the one whose dish he liked (about the only one!) and she gets fired first. Yowzers!

I'd say these people had to be recruited to come to the restuarant since how else would they know it was even there when they opened it so fast. I guess I'll be setting the VCR for this one for next week! Good filler until BB starts!

Herck - The movie was good and they replayed it 3x in a row. Check A&Es listings since they may show it again. The scenes where they were abused was very difficult to watch.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 12:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
OK, first of all, chefs talk down to their employees all the time. The "higher" the chef's success, the more condescending. Coke is HUGE in the restaurant industry. Man, a coked up chef at dinner rush is not pretty, and I've seen it a few different places. When you go into culinary training, you learn VERY quickly that "Yes Chef" is the only answer, and I don't know a single cook that would look a chef in the eye. The cooking culture is weird, and that's just the way it is. Watch any cooking show where there are sous chefs and stuff, and you'll see the "yes chef" rapport that is everywhere.

Second, I don't think the producers picked people that totally KNEW how to cook. I'm sure the people with only limited experience is what they WANTED, to bring out the volume of criticism that Ramsay will deliver. I think any chef that COULD cook, wouldn't need to be on any show to get their own restaurant, and they probably cook well enough for Ramsay to have nothing to critique.

I bet the guy who was supposedly the "executive chef" was by no means a TRUE E.C. He's probably the head chef/menu creator at some dinky little restaurant, or if he is at a bigger restaurant, it may be that he is E.C. at some corporate franchise type of place that really doesn't use or need any culinary skills.

My bf is a cook, and we met at work. We've worked under an a--hole coke-head for a chef. My bf didn't like the show, but I loved it. I like Ramsay, and I love how he talks.

The people in the restaurant would have had to have signed a waiver, but many people are videotaped FIRST, then told that they were taped, and they are then asked for permission to use their video. That said, I'm sure they knew something was going on, because there was cameras filming the entire operation. I am thinking they were most likely industry insiders, and not just people off the street. Many restaurants have "soft-opens", where people who are known by the restaurant are invited to eat there, with full knowledge that it is the first few days open, and the kitchen and staff are just getting started. I've worked openings at two places now, and that is how it is almost ALWAYS done.

3 days ago, my restaurant was running at hour long ticket times. It was BRUTAL. We have about 400 seats, and the kitchen got SLAMMED. You usually let the people know that things are running long the moment you see how many bills the kitchen has, and people are usually cool with that. I had five tables wait an hour for food, including one that waited 45 minutes for a second order of garlic bread. Sh!t happens, and most people are understanding of it.

Well, I loved this show, and my favourite part today was when he criticized the girl for making SALAD in her 45 minutes. LOL. I peed myself laughing!!

I can't wait for next week!!

(For those who know I am supposed to move tomorrow, I STILL haven't packed my computer yet!! LOL)

Jhezzie
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07-05-2001

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 1:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jhezzie a private message Print Post    
Other than the waiver-signing patrons there for free food/face time, complete with staged kitchen storming and producer induced complaining, it was interesting. Would any reasonable person wait for HOURS to get served if there wasn't something in it for them? Hell no! Chefs and cooks tend to be really mental. And alcoholics. Eeyore speaks the truth! I do hope it gets deeper than Chef Ramsey's tantrums, though. That will get old quickly. I did get a kick out of him liking the turkey tacos and the chicken parmisian out of all the dishes prepared, lol.

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
I know several people in the food industry very well - my high school classmate Jody, who runs the cafeterias for Saga/Marriott out at Lawrence Livermore, my friend Mary Ann who was an Associate Food Editor at Good Housekeeping, and my friend Eduardo who is the chef and owner of the Jasmine Cafe here in Reston.

Quite frankly, I think ALL THREE of them could have handled this situation very well. I have seen all of them in action and they are FAST in the kitchen. And all three of them are equally meticulous about the food they serve.

Now Jody's job, of course, is a little different in that she mainly has to hire, order and keep things going at like 5 cafeterias where each one has an onsite person - but she has cooked all her life. When I was 12 I remember going to her house for a sleepover, and was ASTONISHED that she actually cooked dinner for her family - and that was a regular thing, not just because I was there. She did better at 12 than some of those people did last night. I think people who truly have a calling for this type of work ARE very good at it.

I bet those "patrons" were getting free food and drink. I bet the blue waiter was keeping them soused and that is why they did not leave.

So far - I'm liking this!

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 11:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
Not a bad show, but I prefer the BBC version of Ramsey's Kitchen Nightmare at this point.

He is one tough cookie. Would be fun to see Emeril, Bobby Flay, etc on his show, see how well they do.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 12:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I was really looking for to watching this show. But yet while watching it last night it just seemed so "over the top." I cannot believe an owner of a restaurant would make the entire table go without food while they make one dish over again. And calling those girls bimbos and making the plastic surgery comment and they still didn't walk out? Come 'on - it was way staged.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Terolyn a private message Print Post    
I think perhaps the patrons of the restaurant were invited (via trade publications) to eat at Hell's Kitchen. I am sure they told them that this is a television reality show and you may or may not get good food, treated well, etc. and that they come at thier own risk. I am sure there are plenty of people in LA (I think that is where it is filmed) who would show up for a free meal and exposure - no matter what the cost.

Producerchic
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06-29-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 5:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Producerchic a private message Print Post    
I am addicted to this show (darn it!)... As someone said earlier it is GREAT filler until BB starts!

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 6:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
I admit I will probably watch it to fill in the summer months, I just found last night to be very "scripted."

Countrydaze
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11-07-2003

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 7:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Countrydaze a private message Print Post    
Way-way to much yelling and screaming for me. It reminds me of a very disfunctional family. Lots of people have pressure jobs, but they don't have to belittle people to get their point across. I did not see one instance where he actually taught anyone anything or gave constructive criticism to anyone. After reading the threads I wonder is he that big of a jerk, or is it all for the sake of "Good TV", which is questionable to me.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 7:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
A few overall thoughts:

1) I generally like Gordon Ramsay and liked the UK "Hell's Kitchen"

2) I appreciate people who 'tell it like it is' when the "telling" is the truth

However:

1) I didn't find it particularly fun to see him yelling at people who don't really have a lot of kitchen background. To me, OF COURSE some of these people are going to screw it up. And it's not as interesting to me to see Ramsay yell at those folks, somehow...

2) I agree with others who say the "soft launch" was completely set up. There's no way those were "real" patrons. Completely set up, which is what put me off of The Restaurant with Rocco-Whassisname. I understand WHY they would have had to do it, just wish they were a little more up front with the audience about it. We're not totally oblivious, I don't think.

3) I'm still mad at him for upsetting Rupert from the Hello Deli on Letterman two weeks ago! OK, this has nothing to do with the series, but he was mean to poor Rupert LOL

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Everything goes better with coke :-)

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Yankee, I missed it - what did he do to Rupert? How could anybody be mean to that guy?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I enjoyed the show.

I met Rupert years ago and he is sweet as pie,,so BOOO to Ramsey for being mean to him!!

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
Eeyoreslament....good luck with the move!!!yuk. allso i agree, too much yelling, id be balling my eyes out...but over all, i liked it, ill be watching..

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Well, he went into Hello Deli and didn't even really say hi to Rupert -- just went straight into "mean" mode, criticizing the place, the food (Rupert had made him a chicken sandwich which he called both "dry" and "greasy"), and when he saw the tip jar, he said something like "Here's a tip, don't eat here." There was more, but that's what I remember.

Which I suppose is par for the course with his persona, but it seemed mean-spirited to do that to a sweet guy who has played along with so many gags on Letterman for so long.

And then I heard last week from Letterman staff the behind the scenes -- Rupert had already gone for the day, and Dave decided last minute to send Ramsay in there -- so Rupert had to be called back to the deli after he'd closed up for the day, open up, make a sandwich, play along ... only to get p*ssed on by Ramsay.

Like I said, it wasn't the worst thing ever, but it made Ramsay seem NOT straightforward; instead, he came off like a jerk.

Bonzacat
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 8:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonzacat a private message Print Post    
Poor Rupert!

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelb724 a private message Print Post    
i watched nanny 911 before this show started, and all i could think of was they needed a nanny 911 to straighten up gordon. but i did like it. that's the thing with fox is they never take a break, they always have new stuff out, and its usually pretty good, even during the summer.

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Monday, June 06, 2005 - 10:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rslover a private message Print Post    
Watching2,
The first show repeats tonight at 8:00 before the second one.


Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Monday, June 06, 2005 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Nobody else is watching?

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, June 06, 2005 - 7:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
TPTB must be editing out something with Jeff. Why does everyone think Jeff is faking kidney stones?