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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:40 am
I think the reason tptb don’t spend much time telling the viewers about the diet and the specifics about the workouts is because what they are doing at the ranch doesn’t work in real life (unless you go to a similar program and leave your life for several months) and secondly there is no secret about losing weight. Eat fewer calories and move. It works! there is no magical spell. Simple as pie eat FEWER calories and get up and MOVE. Most won’t have the quick weight loss we see at the ranch because that isn’t a real life lifestyle but any one can lose weight, really. This show is a money making enterprise just like any other show on NBC maybe it’s meant to motivate people but should not be used as a blueprint to ones own weight loss. If someone is interested in diet and exercise but doesn’t know how or where to start you’ll have to pay for instruction and then follow through. Eat a healthy diet with fewer calories and MOVE…the weight will come off. Don’t rely on a TV show.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 12:04 pm
Lilfair what a smug attuitude, if you eat less calories and get up and move you would lose weight... IF IT WAS ONLY THAT SIMPLE every time, then why do we have so many overweight people. its not that simple, before i got disabled, lets start in highschool, i weighed 180 was called pudgy, but i was the strongest boy in school, and star on football team,never lost a arm wrestling match, got up before the sun did my chores, went to school, then help my dad for his job, are home chores are my own part time job,( true poor diet , less than 200 calories i bet though) and little sleep, but i moved more than anyone else i know. joined the military, and lost 40 pounds in 4 weeks how, well i was ordered to stop a fight, and i ended up with a combat boot in the mouth knocked out alot of teeth, so i was on aliguid deit, no solids the rest of boot camp, but high calories, yet i lost 40 pounds, true i did alot more running than before. now shoot ahead to just before i got disabled( ran over, through by a fork lift) i was back up to 190, again called a little chubby, yet i could easily lift 250 pounds over my head, and i worked 14 hours days driving a large truck and making deleiveries, probably about 15 thousand pounds a day, say hundreds of walks from trailer to store and back making deleiveries, i used to only eat maybe two meals a day ( true only junk food, but i bet less than 2500 calories a day) yet i moved all day, and you try walking and unloading say 14 pounds a day, weither its backs of 60 pound dog food, are 3 pound boxes of gum, 14 thousands pounds is 14 thousand pounds.. so its so many factors, not just the concept eat less and move more, its your health, enviroment, body genetics, chemistry, even for women hormones, etcs...there are so many factors and for somany different type of peoples, reasons and conditons.. so i am really bothered by comments like yours..
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:17 pm
It's science, tater. Eat a healthy diet count calories and MOVE...move more than today than yesterday and more the next day. Many ailments are due to poor eating and not using your body to move. It's really very simple. I've never heard of anyone not being able to lose weight with this simple plan. People won't see results overnight but in the long run people will shed pounds and become stronger and healthier. Making excuses does not help anyone. Eating healthfully/counting calories and MOVEING/exercising the body…being active and watching ones calorie intake works every time. This is NOT a secret. Eating junk food or just 2 meals a day is a very bad habit. The body needs to eat 3 meals a day and snacks otherwise a persons metabolism gets screwed up. Eating 2 meals of fast food or junk food has no real nutritional merit and more calories than one might want. Eating a healthy diet counting calories and moving more works for every human body. You ask why there are so many overweight people…because they eat more calories than they expend. Simple science. It’s a fact. If a person is over weight it’s their right. I don’t judge people by their weight. I happen to be attracted to “pudgy” men. But for someone to complain or feel sorry for themselves and can’t wrap their minds around eating less calories and exercising more to drop weight is in denial.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:27 pm
I am very curious to see tonioght if Matt's plan worked for him or backfired.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:32 pm
oh your so smug,lol.... some people work long hours dont have time to cook while at work, dont have refrigerators to store food, its either not eat are eaq whats available.. and many people have other considerations, medical, emotional, i so glad your fit and healthy... aah do you run are work out each day?? some people are bless with a high metabolism and cant gain weight if they wanted, and many have a messed up body and cant lose if they wanted, most people cant put their live in a clinical trial, and do your version of eat less cals and move move move..i hope you never get disabled, have a health conditon where you can stomach alot of foods) i like on a very small fixed income, and cant load up of fruits all the time are expensive meats,( now days a dag of oranges can cost 5 bucks.. i actaully pay twice a month for rent and utilities then i do for my food consuption, i am house bound have health issues and cant walk like i once did, i have alread stated i have and had pilates machine exerciser, and tapes, total gym, incumbent bike, ski rower, elepitcal rider, hand weights, etc.. but when you have extensive nerve damage and many other promblems, you do the best you can do... and right now i bet i am a heck of alot stronger than you, but no way near when i could press 250 over my head are able to lift 450 off the gorund, now days lifting my 26 pound cat hurts... and to just sum it up, if it was so easy then the majority of people wouldnt be overweight?? i think you just want to cause aguements here.. and for this show i truely believe it is more helpful, inspirational are helping people to lose weight, then any of the so call popular shows you would watch.. so dont come in here saying its so easy, its not.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 1:57 pm
Tater, it's up to you and you alone to make sure you eat a healthy diet and exercise. No one can do it for you. You don't need fancy machines or expensive foods. It’s all up to you. Throw away your excuses. If I said it was easy then I misspoke. I meant to say the science it self is an easy one...not too many steps, just 2. But having the discipline to follow through is not always easy for every personality type. You really need to love yourself to help yourself and feel you deserve to be fit. Then again, not every overweight person feels the need to lose weight and more power to them, too, unless they start to complain about others having it easier then them. That’s it for me on this subject. Take care.
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:08 pm
Jami, I too am wondering how Matt will do this week. Will the splurging and big weight gain throw his body in shock and make it harder to lose any weight this week? Should be interesting. I hope Dr. Jeff has another good week, he is such a likeable fellow.
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Bob2112
Member
06-12-2002
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:34 pm
I think Matt will put up big loss numbers tonight. Last week he didn't work out on the last day and probably drank much water to add to his weight. This week (assuming he is not immune) he will watch the intake on the last day and work out like a fiend. Since the weekly results are based on the last weigh-in. He should come out weigh ahead.
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Max
Moderator
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:43 pm
I'm rooting for Matt. I've seen wrestlers lose and gain quite a bit of weight very quickly trying to make weight classes one way or another. In the long run, it's very hard on the body, but it can be done. Lilfair, What you are saying is generally correct. However it's not ALWAYS the case. There are genetic influences and medical conditions that preclude people from losing weight regardless of what their calorie intake and exercise programs are. Sometimes an explanation is a fact, not an excuse. Now, if they starve and exercise a lot, they may be able to lose weight, but they won't necessarily be healthy. I'll say it again. Normal, healthy weight is not the same for every individual. The weight charts would have you believe that's the case, but it's just not. It's much more important to have overall good health indicators (blood pressure, cholesterol, etc.) than to try and meet a number some statistician has decided is "healthy" based solely on height and age. And if you've never been overweight and tried to lose it, it's very rarely easy by any stretch of the imagination.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:57 pm
are if your immune system is shot, and you have bleeding ulcers, and cant get a docotor to prescribe so,etime, are you are in pain 24/7 and again cant get a doctor to really help you, only want to prozac you, which doesnt solve the real promblem only a cop out and wont work in the long run, are you motabolism is messed up and even when you only eat 100 calories, and three , 4 meals a day for a month straigh to hell with the stomach bleeding are pain are you are racked with pain and most in bed, which hurts in itself, so in a perfect world maybe its science, but even science doesnt have all the answers, are do you really think you evolved form a ape?? no get real , its a strugle for the many for many reasons, and when you get older and fatter, come bacl and tell me you stayed thin by diet.. no i find still you are smug, and you need to step in the others shoes before saying its just science. ( theres still many varaibles that come in to play, trully beleive no two people are diets are the same.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 6:03 pm
Here is some hope for all who have struggled with your weight: I am a diabetic and am lucky enough to have heard of the new drug, Byetta, which was approved by the FDA in June. This drug is like a miracle for Type 2 diabetics - it mimics the hormone incretin which does a number of things - it gives you back your first phase insulin response, blocks the release of glucagon by the liver and slows the emptying of the stomach. Why is this relevant? Because one of the side effects of this drug is that it almost completely takes your appetite away. I started taking this drug on October 22 and so far I have lost 18 pounds. (And my glucose levels are near perfect, even the two hour after meals numbers, which have been horrible for 10 years.) This drug is like a miracle for a Type 2 diabetic, but it has been so effective in helping people lose weight that the FDA is studying it for use in people who are not diabetic but have weight problems. So, help is on its way. The main side effect is nausea, which affects 44% of the people who take it, but that side effect reportedly goes away. I have not had a problem with that. Worth a google. The name of the drug is BYETTA.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:30 pm
So sad that Jeff was eliminated. I hate that the biggest loser is no longer there. I was so happy when the season started and they were giving immunity to the team member with the biggest loss for the week. I was hoping it meant they had come up with solutions on how to keep the true biggest loser in the game. It would be nice if they didn't even have eliminations. They could start out with a smaller cast and simply follow their progress until the final weigh-in where the biggest loser is announced. For fun they could still have the temptations and reward challenges.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:50 pm
Dr jeff looked great from the waist up but he has a lot of loose skin in the abd area which looks like he could benefit from a tummy tuck. The other contestants who lost weight in the past, did not appear to have this loose skin like he has. But overall, he has improved his health tremendously, is a great role model and a sweet guy. Now, if only the hostess (what is her name Caroline?) I wish she would not show cleavage in just about every shot. I am so tired of seeing that...
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 9:45 pm
I thought Jeff looked great! FWIW, he didn't appear to be in need of the prize money...Mercedes sitting in the drive...pool out back...he's a Doctor, so I'm sure he's doing alright. So far, to me, he seems to have benefitted from the show the most...pre and post show. He may be the only Reality constestant that ever said, "I did it to better myself." and really meant it. I've been rooting for Matt from day one and I think he has a shot to win the whole thing.
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Lizadee
Member
08-02-2005
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 9:52 pm
Curlyq & Seabreeze, Thank you for keeping me updated I came here to see what happen on tonight show and had to read till I got to the last 2 post's from you 2 to see what was going on Thank you so much I was thinking I'm gonna have go some where else 2 see what happen GEEEZ My daughter plays varsity hockey and she plays at 7:30 so I get to see about 5 mins. before I have to leave Thanks again
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 10:23 pm
As much as I have liked this season, I'm ready for it to be over. I am so sick of Matt. Matt scowls. Matt complains. Matt's life struggles are told yet again (without any significant details ever revealed). Matt is comforted by Jillian. Matt, at elimination, gives a speech that goes on for, like, five hours. Matt cries. Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. Even though getting rid of Jeff was best for the game play, I wish Andrea was gone. There's something about her I just don't like. She's kind of b-tchy to me. Jeff looked awesome. The guy has a loving family and a successful career. But if you can't walk up a flight of stairs, how can you fully appreciate anything? Good for him for getting his life back.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:59 pm
It is a shame that the ones who lose the most in terms of % or total pounds don't become the winners...like Dr Jeff and Andrea from last year.It is geared to how you play the game and it is more than a game...I hate that it trivalizes it.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:56 am
i really dont want mat to win, either now seth are suzy i think deserve it.i agree now i dont think mat would really appreciate it, he has alot of deamons, he really should after the show go see someone for them,get that part of him, straightemed out, otherwise i am adfraid he could easily get rehooked up with the drinking, etc, again.. and andrea to eat several brownies, its like she hasnt learned anything, maybe one and take one with here for later, but to just goble several down, she too could so easily fall back to her old habbits... i am not trying to judge here, because mainly i am still unhealthy and obese.. i just want the one who truely deserves to win, WIN.. also since i think suzy and dr jeff and also pete have hearts of gold, i hope they can say speak at schools are maybe do seasons to help others, since they have truely been there and do have hearts of gold...i also hope when they have the reunion that all show up.. would love to have nick expose as just wanting to be a tv star and wasnt really totaly into the chance he was given..
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 1:30 am
I'd been sympathetic to Matt because I understand the sensitive type personality, but I think even I'm losing patience with his moodiness now. I don't know if it's just really crummy editing, but he goes into these strange moods out of the blue with no explanation. They could've at least shown a confessional from him explaining why he was giving attitude to his trainer. At least his strategy from last week paid off. Meanwhile Andrea has got my respect. That's the second time she's won one of these challenges, so she must be in good shape. It's got to be hard for her always being in the bottom two, knowing she's being kept around so she can fill one of the two hot seats. I wonder if they'll continue this strategy to the very end. Lizadee, Andrea won a challenge that involved clinging to large poles hanging over a pool with very little to get a foothold on. She won a night in a hotel suite with her husband, plus the chance to choose which opponent to add 2 lbs. to at the weigh-in. She chose Jeff, who had only lost 3 lbs. anyway. This put him in last place, and the others took advantage of the chance to vote him out. He lost another 30 pounds at home and is down to 240 lbs.
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 3:36 am
I was sad to see Dr Jeff go. I told my husband, "I bet his patients love him!" Regarding the diabetic drug, Byetta, I've been on it for 5 weeks now and it does seem to be a miracle drug.
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Holly
Member
06-19-2005
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 4:54 am
Matt makes me cringe. He needs to grow up and can the little temper tantrums and pity parties. Anyone know how old this guy is? I'd hate to see him win this. I think he cries to gain sympathy and a lot of it is an act. They shouldn't allow him to manipulate his weight loss the way he's done the past couple of weeks. It doesn't seem fair to the others. Jeff did very well and looked great in his after shots.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:17 am
Holly: Matt is 28. Am I the only one who suspects Matt has experienced some sort of sexual abuse? Maybe the guy is just really sensitive and uses his moods to get attention (as you guys have written), but I can't help but wonder if something really dramatic happened to him. And if it did, while I would have sympathy for him, I am annoyed that he isn't addressing his emotional issues nor is anyone else. The show seems to be using Matt to heighten the drama and Matt is giving them the fodder to it.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:06 am
ye3s i really dont see how anyone ( mat) can gain 12 pounds in a couple of days, and then lose that and 12 more, when he can regulary lose 12 poubds per week. and i think dr jef, trudge along and did his upmost best( he has ortopedic promblem, dont know what) so no he did do superhuman boots like mark are mat, but i really think he put his heart in it each day, where mat has so major highs and lows it seems. i dont see how u can come up wiht mat having a bad sexual experience? beyond me, i expect he blew his change to go far when in college and then drank and eat and never stoped.. i think he wont get back to that weight but if he cant control his major highs and lows( we all have highs and lows i know, but most of us dont let it get to where its so extreme, really hard on your metal and physucal body i think).. but in final i am rooting and glad that most have succeded and are on the path to control healthy lifes again.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:11 pm
What was Matt's loss for the week? and even with the percentages, the women dont stand a chance - I'd like to see 2 seperate groups, just like they started but dont combine, just eliminate each week one woman, one man... or not!!
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Spoton
Member
09-16-2005
| Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 12:39 pm
Matt lost 24!!! Total for him now is 99 pounds. He is my fav at this point. I don't see anything "off" about his personality or his crying. Just an emotional guy. I would be ready to take off the trainer's head at this point, too!! And I thought he explained himself very well when he caught up to her after his walk. Suzy puts me on edge. Her whiney cry, and those glasses!!!! I want to stomp them into the ground! She would look 10 times prettier without them. I was suprised she didn't lose them in their "makeover."
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