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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
There's a Japanese art of fish printing, called gyotaku. When I first heard of it (about 20 years ago), a woman here in San Diego was doing it on board deep sea fishing boats. This allowed people to catch a fish, record it's size, and then release it back. Technically, however, the Japanese devised this method so that they could record the fish and then eat it. (If you're gonna kill a fish, you might as well get some benefit from it.)

I can't find Cheri's site, but you can check out fish pix HERE. And from that site:

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The art of Gyotaku originated in Japan around a century ago. Fishermen wanted a way to capture a record of their prized catch, but still be able to eat the fish afterwards. Mounting or stuffing the fish did not allow them to do this and so the art of Gyotaku or fish printing was born.

Originally, black ink on rice paper was the traditional method of Gyotaku. Although this style is still popular of course, the advent of modern colored inks and dyes has allowed the artist to express themselves more individually.

The basic method involves preparing a fish to clean it of any slime or other fluids and debris. I then remove the eye on the side I am going to print so I can paint it in afterwards. Once it is clean and dry, I pin the fins out on top of modelling clay to hold their position and then the desired ink or inks are applied by brush to the fish.

Once fully inked, a sheet of paper is carefully placed over the fish. Holding it in place with one hand so it does not slip (and therefore smear the print), I use my other hand to press the paper down onto the fish. I start at the head typically, then work my way down the body, paying particular attention to the fins, and ending at the tail. Once I have finished, the paper is slowly peeled back to reveal the print of the fish you have made.

Once the print is dry, I use watercolors to paint in the eye, and Japanese stamps to finish it off.




Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 7:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Link isn't working for me Costa...sounds interesting though!

Lizziedi
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10-05-2005

Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 11:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lizziedi a private message Print Post    
Costa--

I saw a clip of the fishprinting art, on one of the arts or home channels. It's hard to do it exactly right, without smearing--done with extreme care and attention--a Zen feeling. It stuck me as very respectful of the beauty and individuality of the fish that were caught. In the one I saw the fish were definitely dinner, not alive any more.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Buh-bye, Martha!

It's confirmed: Martha's ‘Apprentice’ canned
Now we're really, really certain Stewart's reality spinoff is history

Stuart Ramson / AP
Hollywood Reporter
Updated: 10:43 a.m. ET Nov. 14, 2005
LOS ANGELES - It’s a fade out for “The Apprentice: Martha Stewart” after next month’s finale.

Sources said that NBC has passed on ordering another round of episodes of the Stewart-hosted edition of “The Apprentice,” which has struggled in the ratings since its Sept. 21 premiere. A spokesman for NBC stressed Sunday that the show always had been scheduled to run for only one cycle.

NBC and “Apprentice” executive producer Mark Burnett tapped Stewart to helm the spinoff in an effort to capitalize on public curiosity about the lifestyle maven after her release this year from a five-month prison term for lying to investigators in connection with an insider-trading stock probe. Plans for Stewart to host the spinoff were announced in February while Stewart was behind bars in West Virginia.

Like the original “Apprentice” and its gregarious entrepreneur host Donald Trump, Stewart’s version of the show set up a competition among 16 would-be executives to win a $250,000 prize and a year-long “apprenticeship” job at Stewart’s Martha Stewart Living Omnimedia company. Stewart’s panel of judges each week include Charles Koppelman, chairman of the board at MSLO, and her daughter, MSLO consultant Alexis Stewart.

While Trump’s “Apprentice” was an instant hit last year on its debut, Stewart’s opened with little sizzle, drawing just 7.1 million viewers, according to Nielsen Media Research. For the season-to-date, the show has averaged 6.8 million viewers.

“Apprentice: Martha Stewart” opened the season for NBC in the Wednesday lead-off slot, and then shifted to 9 p.m. in the line of fire of one of primetime’s biggest hits, ABC’s “Lost,” as of Oct. 5. Its two-hour live finale is set for Dec. 21.

Burnett and Stewart also are partnered with NBC Universal in a daytime syndicated show, “Martha,” which has delivered fair to middling ratings since its September premiere.

Copyright 2005 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10037573/

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
aww...that's too bad... I liked the show and thought it would get even better as she got more comfy with the format...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Sorry Eeyore! Try this LINK.

And Lizzie, you're right. It's definitely "get in tune with the fish" time when you do a fish print. And yeah, most of 'em *are* dead, but you can do it with a live fish. Quickly, of course! :-)

RE: the nonrenewal of her show... Well, I think they got it wrong with their "effort to capitalize on public curiosity about the lifestyle maven after her release this year from a five-month prison term". I mean, that interest would last like, what? A nanosecond? I truly don't thinks got what it takes to sustain a show like this. She may be great at the thing she does on her OWN show (food, decorating, whatever). But I think I'm in the majority who aren't interested in her as a business person. (Along with those who just aren't interested in her at all, no matter what! <wink>)

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dalm_dad a private message Print Post    
I love the spin that I read somewhere to the effect this was going to be a one-seasoner.

Who believes that.
Dalm.

Chy
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07-19-2003

Monday, November 14, 2005 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chy a private message Print Post    
It's on CNBC right now. Do they always repeat it at this time? I knew it was on Fri...
I missed it since Lost came back. Now I wish I didn't catch up with all your posts before I actually see the show.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 2:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
The basic method involves preparing a fish to clean it of any slime or other fluids and debris.

I wonder how they 'clean' a LIVE fish? There is a good chance the fish will die if scales removed or skin damaged or the chemicals of paint used. Even handling a fish for 'catch n release' kills many salmon/trout...and that is just handling them for a few secs.

Too bad MS Apprentice was a one shot deal. Too bad that the format is less then exciting. I'd love to see MS do a Wickedly Perfect type show.

Marebear
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09-27-2002

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 5:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Marebear a private message Print Post    
I bought some Tide to Go - so I guess this show is working LOL

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Wickedly Perfect was a great show - except for the fact that they eliminated people the wrong way. If they had a boardroom type elimination on that show, maybe the "right" person would have won. Then again, maybe not, since it seemed like they went out of their way to ensure Kim won.

But I just LOVED those competitions. Much better than what is going on with MS.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 8:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
That's a shame. It's been a very entertaining show, at least for me. It would've been even better if they hadn't been competing with Trump for ratings. Why didn't they just air them in different cycles, first one and then the other? Still, I have to believe putting it up against Lost every week had a lot more to do with the weak ratings than the actual content of the show. I said weeks ago that they seemed to be actively trying to kill it when they made that decision, and they've succeeded.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Jim beats Marcela again :-)

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
More, more, Ketchuplover! It's so hard, to be spoiled, when almost no one watches the dumb show!
Who goes, please?

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
Idolworship, Amanda got fired this week. I can give you more details if you like...a little episode summary.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Marcella's team sold 9 Tassimo hot beverage machines. Jim's team sold 36(I may be wrong on that though)

Jim gave Marcella a pep talk before the CR.

Jim is thinking ahead to the finale. He thinks he stands better v. Marcella ...imo.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I really enjoyed the show this week! Jim has become a very interesting character (his apparent sincerity over the reward was quite amazing).

It was great the way Martha saw right through the others to how Marcela’s team sabotaged any chance of her success. Jim was right – Marcela did a great job of getting people into the store but her team did nothing to support her in trying to sell the product. As the saying goes, Jim is a real player.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Needmylifeback a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the update... I turned it off (left the VCR taping tho! LOL!) ... Just after Jim announced that "HIS" team was out of control or something to that effect...GAG!

Idolworship
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05-07-2003

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Idolworship a private message Print Post    
Thanks to ya, Cdbga and Ketchuplover! Amanda sounds familiar, but I can't place her....blonde? Well, anyway, I was hoping that the scurrilous Jim would find his buns being bumped the the door, on his way out. Rats!
I appreciate the spoiling;)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
I find myself liking Jim more and more ... I don't know how he'll fit into MSO, though ... his pep talk to marcela was great, I'm glad to see the back of Amanda, wish the guy would have been gone, too.

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cdbga a private message Print Post    
It is strange, Idol, but I'm actually liking Jim as of late. He was very supportive of Marcella tonight. After talking to the other Matchstick team members, he felt they were going to do a full-out attack of her in the conference room. She was not holding up well at the time...and he went in and gave her support and helped her prepare her fight plan for the conference room. He said (in his confessional) that he knew what it felt like to have the team attack you as a weak player when you really weren't and he couldn't let that happen to her without trying to help. I like Marcella, so Jim definitely scored points with me for this move. I kept expecting some snarky interview where he'd say he was only helping her to keep a weaker player in the game..but, that didn't happen...and he really seemed sincere (with the way Jim has been edited thus far, if he'd had a snarky interview, I think we'd have seen it). Just a strange turn of events with Jim. Ever since the auction task they've had him all...competent...and...nice...if they keep this up, I'll actually be sad when he does get fired.

I agree Jimmer...it WAS great to see Martha, Charles and Alexis all see exactly what was going on at Matchstick. I thought Marcela did an amazing job...and she defended herself nicely in the boardroom. It was definitely time for Amanda(yes, Idol, she's blonde. She's the one who had the eye cancer...and kind of wanted to take over the on-camera thing in last week's task) to go. I wanted to smack her during this task. It always annoys me when someone criticizes something like the marketing plan, but absolutely refuses to give any better ideas. Marcella asked her for input on that and she gave none, then turns around and complains...and then it comes out in the conference room that marketing is one of her specialties!

Was also nice to see a little more Alexis tonight.

Hmmm...I think that is it for my ranting tonight.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 9:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Yes, Amanda was not stellar tonight. She had a PR degree but couldn't offer a better marketing strategy after complaining that one was lacking. It's true that Marcella got the crowds in, unfortunately it was the wrong crowd. She got a group of people who wanted good pastries, not people who actually wanted to buy the machine. If the suggested retail price was $169, why on Earth did they make it $299? I like Marcella, but I think she would've been gone had she not handled herself so well in the boardroom.

Jim has always said that his strategy is to get rid of the strong players, so I don't believe for a minute that his maneuver regarding Marcella was just an act of kindness. He may have felt sorry for her and that may have been part of it, but if he also made a snarky comment they may have edited that out to make him more likeable knowing he wasn't going to be fired anytime soon. He knew Marcella had two losses, both to him. Why wouldn't he want her to stay?

Amanda commented at the beginning about how Martha keeps sending back Jim and Bethany. I could totally understand her frustration, and she seemed disillusioned at that point. She even voiced that she was tempted not to try anymore since she's the opposite of what Martha seems to be looking for. Maybe that's why she didn't perform in this task.

What I was disappointed in was that I was actually able to predict the end of the show from the beginning and from the promos. I knew when the previews made it look like Marcella would go, that would be a red herring. Then in the opening they reviewed Amanda's behavior last week to remind us of why we shouldn't like her. It was too obvious.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 10:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Just about any show programmed against "Lost," was bound to lose out in the ratings. It's too bad. I like this show.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I loved seeing Ms. Stewart's Maine bungalow; I think everyone should have a small abode to which they can jettison for a few days of rest and relaxation. It was lovely! What beautiful sinks, floors, and furniture [from the Martha Stewart collection]! And I especially liked seeing the table cloth cupboard.

It's funny....I remember when Ms. Stewart had the boat they went out on built, back when she was doing her Martha Stewart Living show. She showed us the whole process, took us inside the company that made it to her specifications (right down to the color of the hull or whatever it's called) and allowed us to see her Christen it. It was nice to see things come full circle and to see her share her handsome vessel with the applicants.

I thought it was well past time for Amanda to go. I didn't even remember her name a couple weeks ago and, after she appears for two minutes on Ms. Stewart's daytime show, I will never have to think of her again. I'm glad Ms. Stewart will give her a brick/terra cotta poncho on the show, though--the young lady certainly could use every bit of help Ms. Stewart offers her.

Marcella: please stop it with the earrings. I always feel they will get caught on your blouse and tear your ear lobe. And they are not attractive. I did, however, love your little speech about the Mexican Martha Stewart and how you want Ms. Stewart herself to be the Mexican Martha Stewart and tap into the large Latino market in the US. It's also good that you took that possible wind out of the sails of Leslie, who seems more competent than you. Now I guess she'll have to play the "I'm older and have copper hair" card or something.

Ryan: I still love you. I especially love your haircut. It's definitely a hair-DO (as opposed to Dawna's hair-DON'T). I think Marcella was right, though: you didn't fight as hard this time. I think you were tired rather than malicious, though, so I will give you a pass. After all, you looked cute in the super hero gear and you use hair product well. Those are big bonuses in my book.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 1:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Just finished watching the uncut clips at the Yahoo site. It was interesting to hear all 4 of them answer the question "Why do you want to work for me?" They had only shown Marcela and Leslie's answers on the show. Leslie gave a rapid fire answer that sounded very intelligent and impressive, but was also kind of a head scratcher. Ryan just seemed to give a pat answer that would apply to any company, and he actually brought up his genealogy as one of the things he brings to the table. In their shoes I think I would've had my answer to that question prepared before I even left home.

It's also interesting that Jim has only been a part of 2 wins, and each time it was when he was PM. Ryan was smart to point out that while he and Jim both have two wins as PM, Ryan's overall record is 7-2 while Jim's is 2-7 (as is Bethenny's). Dawna is still the most impressive with 2 PM wins, a 7-2 record and no trips to the final boardroom.