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Archive through October 26, 2005

The TVClubHouse: Other Reality Shows ARCHIVES: Archives for 2006 - 1: Martha Stewart Apprentice: ARCHIVES: Archive through October 26, 2005 users admin

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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 9:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I like both the shows. They are far better than a lot of stuff on TV.

But I do agree that running them directly together was a mistake. Also, I think that the formats are too similar. They should have tried to do something a little different with Martha’s show.

Also, keep in mind that both shows are up against incredibly tough competition (Lost and CSI), which has to affect ratings. There are only so many viewers to go around.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I'm liking this show a lot too...but I also like Donald's.

If I could change one thing about MS's Apprentice, it would be her "you're not working out" line, or whatever it is she chooses to say. I realize that YOUR FIRED is not her style, but I think she could refer to the dismissal as something better than "I'll just say goodbye". I'm not sure, but isn't she saying something different each time too? Its just seems so stiff and un-natural for her... she doesn't sound confident when she says it either...

When MS assigns the task, or notifies the winner of their prize, she always says the loser will meet her in the conference room and some one will go home. I think it would be cool if she said "...and the losing team will meet me in the conference room where, for someone, this interview will be over".

And when she finally decides who is leaving, I would like to hear her say "...so, <insert name here>, your interview is over."





Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
How about "You're NOT a good thing!"

(Just kidding)

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Kep - I think that MS changes what she says every week. This week it was "you're not working for me", and then the week before it was something like "I will say to you goodbye". I cant remember further back, because senility is setting in. LOL

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
LOL Jimmer... "You are a stain and must be removed from the fabric of the Martha Stewart Organization"....

Eeyore...that senility sure gets around... its basically the reason I can't remember what she says week to week...LOL

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 12:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
'You are a stain'... rotf Kep you are too funny :-)

I agree that her unconfident 'I'll just say goodbye' (lol) feels odd and lackluster.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
LOL - At one point she was saying something like "You just don't fit in".

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Thanks Buggles...

Yeah she was Jimmer...and aren't we ALL glad she stopped saying that???

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
She's had a different "saying" each week. The first week it was "You just don't fit in." No repeats as far as I know.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Kep. I love the line, "your interview is over". That is perfect!

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
I think the customer part was staged in that they probably had her retell her complaint. The Stew Leonard manager appeared upset and he did not appear like he was acting. If one customer makes a complaint and his team voices the same complaint, I would take it seriously. I don't care if he sold a lot. He could have sold more if he was not offending people. Also, I would not want any negative conotations associated with a product I produced. So, I would fire him before the inept manager. However, this is tv and keeping him along for dramatic effect is what they are doing.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 3:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
I agree... and it sort of illuminates that DT's line 'you're fired' seems a little over the top for a job interview

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 1:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I agree with Martha's comment that was something like "you can have a torpedo, but just need to know where to aim it".

I think Jim's "outgoing-ness" (I know, not a word) was a positive thing, and as a project manager, it would have been easy enough to go over and say "Hey Jim, I love how comfortable you feel talking to everyone. Now, we need to try to be as classy as possible for Martha, and I think that you could sell tons more for us with your charisma when it is combined with polite comments"

Something to that effect. You could easily have complimented Jim on his charisma, and in doing that, politely requested we try to maintain a polite and less comedic tone.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I think Jim does what he wants when he wants and he knows exactly how to manipulate a situation to position himself the way he wants! He's really acting rather desperate, in my opinion. Does not seem all that sure about himself and what he really has to offer. I think a lot of his demeanor is "bravado". Or, put people off so they don't look too closely or see too much. IMHO

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Auntie, was thinking pretty much same thing myself. After they learned the team Jim wasn't on won, back at the loft Jim was immediately discussing results and making the point that the loss wasn't his doing. That was worry and desperation showing.

Lizziedi
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10-05-2005

Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 10:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lizziedi a private message Print Post    
I share everyone's dislike of Jim. I find myself reminded of Judd's behavior on Survivor this year. Though they are very different at first glance, both have a hairtrigger reaction designed to frighten & intimidate anyone who criticizes them. Both of them also have very delicate egos. I also agree with Auntie & Color about the "bravado aspect.

I loved the fact that Marcela's dressing was truly excellent, as she was worried to be up against Bethany and her confidence seemed shaken when her team rejected her first batch. The look on her face when Martha praised it was wonderful!



Alisons
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01-10-2003

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 4:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Alisons a private message Print Post    
Jim is annoying as a person, but if I had to deal with him as an employee I could do it. I have had far worse than Jim. The key is to not be drawn into the personal drama and just keep everything on a very professional level. The guy just wants attention, born for the stage not the boardroom.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 12:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I see Howie as a more hairtrigger temper guy. I felt Jim was showing mental bravado, not being physically threatening. Jim is the guy that was a geek in HS, and spent the next 15 years planning intelligent ways to get back at the jocks. He is harmless.

I really like Jim, and I like Judd too FWIW.

The love of FEAR is what drives the masses. They are incomplete without something to fear. That's why they make stuff up.

Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 1:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunrvrose a private message Print Post    
oops, I'm getting my Apprentices mixed up

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I like MS because of her no nonsense approach in the Boardroom. A couple of times now she has Refused to honor the 'picks' of the PM. When she makes up her mind to point the finger she is very firm about it.

We have never seen DT demand certain individuals back into boardroom!! MS seems to be trying to legitimately find a good worker for her company.

Jim may be extremely creative and talented but his behaviour is harrassing and would never be allowed in most workplaces. I am disturbed by the look in his eyes. There is something OFF about him...i've seen lots of depressives and manics in my years....and Jim's wild rants seem similar.
I'd truly think he was just using a brilliant gameplan to keep the others offbalance EXCEPT Jim doesnt control his behaviour in the Boardroom either. Therefore I conclude he is unable to control himself.

Just a theory!!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Monday, October 24, 2005 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
clarification...his Behaviour would not be allowed in most workplaces.

The way I wrote that sentence it seemed to say that Jim, himself, wouldnt be allowed LOL

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 7:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jasper a private message Print Post    
What bugs me most about Jim is his theatrics in the boardroom, mugging and nodding and mouthing things while Martha or someone else is speaking.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I am convinced Jim was recruited or, if not, was certainly given license to push the cocky persona.

Jeff Probst once complained that some people were very strong in the interview process and once on the island failed to produce the aggressive behavior they promised. I think Jim is producing exactly what he offered to get a slot on this show.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 1:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Did anyone notice that it looked like Jim smacked someone (Leslie, I think) on the rear when they left the suite to go back to Martha for the reshuffle?

I can't stand Jim.

I want to try both salad dressings.

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 10:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
Lizzidi, I totally agree with you on Jim, and Judd. Personally I think Jim needs to leave, but he makes for good TV so Mark Brunett will probably obligate Martha to keep him around longer. The man is a train wreck waiting to happen. Personally I love this show over Donalds, but it's probably becuase I'm more into homemaking ideas, than business dealings, and a lot of it is about creativity.