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Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 9:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
i cant not believe how much he interrupts or gives side commentary or repeats things - after tonight i do wonder about his mental condition lol

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Spoiler
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It's down to Jennifer (asian chick) and Jim. Jennifer goes.


Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 10:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
Jim is annoying, has delusions of superiority, and a braggart. What can MS possibly see in him?

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I love this show. I never thought I would, but wow, am I ever into it!! I think this is my FAVORITE reality show on right now. And my second favorite show after The Office.

That whole last minute of the boardroom had me going "Oh SNAP!!" over and over again.

Martha's comments were awesome! Jennifer, for someone who is a DA but can't defend themselves; that is very telling. Oh SNAP!! And my favorite was "Jennifer, you're just not working for me."

I would love for Martha to say something mean and nasty to me. I'd kiss her feet. I live for snark.




Now onto Jim. I love this guy. Sure he's loud, and talkative, but I think what we don't see is he's a work-horse. I think he is doing EVERYTHING he can, to help his team, and maybe that doesn't get past the editing room floor. It's boring if we hear "Who was the hardest worker on this task? Who had the highest sales? That was great packaging" etc etc. I think that sure, some things Jim said to sell were inappropriate, but I personally say things I THINK are funny, only to have people misunderstand me. I think he is about to tone it down.

I think that Bethany would slit someone's throat in a heartbeat. I think she's hard-core. And if SHE stands up for Jim, there's gotta be a lot of good that people are refusing to acknowledge. Bethany strikes me as someone who will tell it like it is, and she said Jim and her are hard workers. I think that's what is saving him every week. Despite Jim's F-bomb, the guy probably had the highest sales percentages for the team. So which do you take? One customer who whines because she overheard Jim and Howie talking to each other with the F word, or the guy who is making you money?

I'll take Jim over the single whiney customer any day. That whole complaint thing looked COMPLETELY STAGED. I didn't believe that it was as big a deal as editing made it out to be.

And WHAT IS WITH THE WOMEN!! Stacy(?) and Jen seem immature, and are acting like the belong with Trump's all women clique. Their covert form of aggression is pathetic. I hate how so many women resort to starting rumors, over dramatizing, and talking sh!t about people to advance themselves.

And what was with David's imbecilic comment when Martha asked him why he was smiling like a Cheshire cat: "I know we had a lot of fun, and we sold as many Wishbone salad dressings as we possibly could." What is that supposed to mean? I don't think he could have sounded any more stoopid if his IQ was below 48.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I skim all the threads even if I don't watch the show. You guys are killing me me. I think I have to start watching this.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 11:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I really really enjoyed the show tonight. I don't know that I like the "new" look of it--they have stopped with the blue-grey filters and taken out much of the "cool" look from the show in favor of a more natural palate. But oh well.

I loved that Ms. Stewart had to get back home and that she had to give them the task via video-"conference" (and you KNOW it was just a DVD or video!) because she was still under house arrest! Too funny! So she could meet them at the boat but then she had to scurry back home before her ankle bracelet exploded.

I also love her ensembles on the show. Yes, they are a bit matchy-matchy sometimes, but nobody does match-matchy like Ms. Stewart. Her gold number at the beginning--the one she wore in the conference room last week and again this week when she called them down--was lovely. And the grey number in the conference room at the end, with the slightly shiny silvery camisole and the WONDERFUL necklace looked perfectly modern. On anyone else, it might look frumpy, but not on Ms. Stewart.

I love the winning project manager tonight, whatever his name is. Ryan? Rick? Whatever. He's cute and he seems more than competent. I have to admit I like Howie too cause he's crazy in a good way but Jim is crazy in a not so good way.

I think they are keeping Jim around because of Mark Burnett. He's "good TV," which means annoying TV. I think he'll be gone in a couple weeks. But I have to confess, if I were Ms. Stewart and someone sat in a conference room like he did (with his arm half way behind the chair and smirking and rolling his eyes the whole time), I'd have a hard time keeping my temper in check.

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 3:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Tishala, I hadn't even thought about the house arrest issue! I'd totally forgotten. I guess that's why she doesn't join them on more of their rewards. Maybe she could argue that these little trips are work-related. It was nice of her to see them off and offer them her blanket.

If they're going to keep teasing us with Jim's exit every week I may have to stop watching. It's just too aggravating. Is Martha really not seeing the strategy he's employing? He slipped up and called it a "game" right to her face. Hasn't she noticed that his team always ends up losing and that most of the time he ends up in the boardroom? Hasn't she noticed that in spite of that he still stays in every time? He knows exactly what he's doing. He knows exactly how hard to work to make himself look good, and how to do just the thing to make someone else look bad. He and Bethany both rub me the wrong way, and I took a guilty pleasure in seeing Marcela's dressing being featured in the Wish-bone commercial in spite of Bethany's allegedly superior culinary skills.

They are taking a poll at the Wish-bone website to see if customers want them to offer Asian vinaigrette or one of 3 other choices (strawberry margarita ).

When Jim started his little puffed up rant-turned-threat with Carrie and Howie I was just holding on to my chair waiting for the explosion. He picked the worst person to pull that on. Howie reminds me of those loud wrestler guys and I don't like his temper, but it was fun to see him go off on Jim.

Mollyqule
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08-09-2005

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mollyqule a private message Print Post    
Jim reminds me of my youngest son when he was around 8 years old. He would walk around so cocky, and when he didn't get his way he would get so vocal. LOL maybe Jim needs a time out.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 5:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Primarius is in a real bind. If they win they have to put up with Jim another week, if they lose they STILL may have to put up with him another week. He goes when Mark Burnett says he will go.

His bio, below, does not show him to be a shining star in business. He probably applied to both Apprentice shows and was chosen for his ability to create drama. He may have even been recruited.

I would like to see Martha snap (her rendition of snap, anyway) and fire him on the spot in the conference room before they even get down to the details. I love Trumps snappish firings.

His bio Jim, 36, earned dual undergraduate degrees in graphic design and art history from Philadelphia's Tyler School of Art and spent his post-college years as a conceptual illustrator in Manhattan. He relocated to Philadelphia and started his own advertising and marketing company that targets overlooked regional venues within the city. The father of a five-year-old girl and newborn daughter, he lives with his wife in Gilbertsville, PA.






Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Anyone see the commercial with Charles and Alexis? It was pretty bad acting, but funny to watch. And why are the two salad dressings the lime and a cranberry? What happened to the Asian one?

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 7:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
I wondered that too.....

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I was glad to see Howie stand up to Jim. It looked as though Jim was threatening the woman on the couch when he said he didnt want her bringing up his name in the boardroom because he did all the work. Jim said something like she would be sorry, and something about this is not a threat but a warning! It certainly sounded like a threat to me, and his attitude seems to be working. Nobody wants to get on his bad side--even the project manager said she was afraid to pull him off the floor because she didnt know how he would react. Howie got right in his face and told him not to threaten or warn him, and Jim seemed to back down. I wish more of them would just stand up and tell Jim to shut up. He reminds me of someone I once worked with, so I really don't like him at all.

Ocean_islands
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09-07-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ocean_islands a private message Print Post    
Both those guys are loose cannons.

Ocean_islands
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09-07-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ocean_islands a private message Print Post    
I would guess that the Asian one was determined to be too expensive to market. It had a lot of ingredients in it.

On top of the fact that it was a 'losing' recipe.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Only the winner makes it to the market place if a product is involved. The price each team designated is not necessarily the one Wishbone would endorse. I would not be surprised to learn the Rosemary Lime was not the original recipe either. Most of the ingredients on a Wishbone lable are not found in Martha's test kitchen!

I did not see Jim backing down with Howie at all. He is out to get him. Testosterone showdown time.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 11:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I was so happy when Marcela’s group won the challenge! She seems so nice, she didn’t show a big ego and she tried very hard to produce a good product.

Jim’s actions are a little over the top to say the least. His selling technique and commentary was crazy plus he is so hyper. On the other hand, he did sell 20% of the product and he designed a very nice label so it is clear that he made a contribution.

As far as I could tell, the team leader did practically nothing. She didn’t control her team or contribute to sales.

As far as the others being "scared" of Jim, isn’t that kind of silly?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I liked when they showed Jim drinking a Red Bull...

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 12:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Old Don was on Imus this morning and he was totally dogging Ms. Stewart's Apprentice so he could puff up his own. He said that not even NBC programming chief liked Ms. Stewart's Apprentice and that Old Don had gone along with the idea because he's a good soldier.

He said he thinks the looks of the shows are too similar, that Ms. Stewart's show should be doing something different, and that people like his (crass, IMO) demeanor when he's in the board room and that the ratings spike because of that. Yadda yadda yadda.

Maybe he's right and Ms. Stewart just isn't crass enough. But I think he's wrong, of course, and that NBC has given the show a miserable time. I also think it's a terribly idea to have to Apprentice shows airing simultaneously; as Imus himself said, when ABC started putting Who Wants to Be a Millionaire on four nights a week, they killed it. There might be a limit of one Apprentice at a time. I also think that one of the reasons Old Don's ratings have dipped 25% (he refuses to acknowledge this, BTW) is that the economy is in the dumper and lots of people are not really pleased with the very rich or, in Old Don's case, the very in debt.

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kittystj a private message Print Post    
Anyone notice the jacket that one of the contestants wore last night? It had the Union Jack (British flag) on the front. I would dearly like to know where to purchase one. Anyone seen any like it?

Dahli
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11-27-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dahli a private message Print Post    
I'm enjoying this show, but something that has always bugged me is when MS or DT say something critical of the PM's management style and compare it to their own....
These PM's have NO POWER! what the heck are they supposed to do with a loose cannon? It frustrates me to watch these guys have to behave as if they could really do something when in fact they're totally dependent on whether the team members want to do what they're asked.

I agree PM's in the real world are often in the same situation, but they are not expected to behave as though they own the place. JMHO!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 7:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I didn't really like the MS version of The Apprentice. I thought she was stiff (she is). And I thought she didn't fit the model that Trump had created. So she wants to find an assistant. Call it that, and not an apprentice.

Then again, I've never been a fan of MS. I did used to watch this show, but when they moved it to 9pm, I quit watching. I record Lost instead! :-)

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
DT's a real prince. Before it started, he was touting MS' show. Now that his show is tanking, he's badmouthing it. Some "good soldier."

I like MS' show better than DT's. I suspect most of us will like one or the other. Actually, though, I don't find either one of them exactly riveting.

Ocean_islands
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09-07-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ocean_islands a private message Print Post    
It sounds like some don't like Martha's show because they don't like Martha. That's funny ... some people don't like Donald's show because they dom't like Donald.

It has nothing to do with either show.

Ocean_islands
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09-07-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 4:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ocean_islands a private message Print Post    
Let me just add that the main tv show difference between Martha and Donald is that Donald is tacky and Martha is not.

Donald also shows, in my opinion, many bad business decisions on the show himself.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, October 21, 2005 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I think most critics and viewers agree that running these shows together is a mistake. Not changing the format to fit Martha's style, to offer varity, is another.

I find both shows entertaining. I am hooked on the genre of reality TV and both shows outshine so many other lame attempts.