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Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 9:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I get them mixed up too. Which one had the swamp tour family down in Louisiana? Diego and Diana. I've been wondering how they're making out with all the hurricane damage. Has anyone heard anything about them?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 11:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Cablej, I heard they were fine. I think they were Trading Spouses (cuz that one is two episodes per trade).

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
Thanks Julie, glad to hear it. I now see that this was already discussed further up the thread, double thanks.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Looks intense tonight!

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
Oh my, where do they find these people and why oh why are these people willing to swap...on tv, no less?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, September 26, 2005 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I thought it was another kinder gentler show, especially at the end. It was a bit tense at the start though... I liked that both families went outside their box(es) and that they both made good changes.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
I was worried about Diego and his family and didn't know where they lived in the bayous and how the hurricanes affected them. Good to hear they are fine. The easiest way for me to differentiate between Trading Spouses and Wifeswap is that TS has the $50K that the traded spouse gets to designate how it is spent by the other family. Wifeswap doesn't have this. Last night's Wifeswap was hard for me, in that the punker parents are raising the little devils that end up terrorizing my kids. Nothing against free-thinking, etc., but elementary school is too early to allow anarchy. They are the kids interfering with my kids' education because the teacher is too busy keeping order, and not enough time teaching. JMHO, as usual.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Also a way to differentiate is that WS is one hour (one show per "trade") and TS is two hours (two shows per "trade). Although I do think there was one exception where a TS was only one episode.

Earthmother
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07-14-2002

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Earthmother a private message Print Post    
Why are these people always on the far fringes of what normal should be...

Metoo
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02-22-2005

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Metoo a private message Print Post    
Because "normal" isn't fun to watch or doesn't make "good TV" (so think the producers)!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Also I think these types of shows are attractive to people because they can say "I am a way better mom (or dad/husband/wife/child/etc.) than this person." So they want to get people/families with problems...

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
That woman from the south last night really irritated me. She was so competitive and so entrenched in her beliefs. I felt so bad for that little boy when she forced him to cut off his mohawk.

Jeez, she wouldn't even participate in the concert and then she wondered why the little boy copped an attitude about going along with her ideas. Physician, heal thyself!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Tishala, that's so funny, because I felt the same way in reverse. That "punk" family was just too way over the top. Although I didn't agree that the "conservative" woman should have tried to change the other family that much, I also thought that those children were incredibly rude and out of control. I can't imagine letting a child get away with that kind of behavior for a single minute!

On the other side, with the husband being the coach of a team and the son being of the players it would be really hard to totally not participate in your sport during season. When you join a team you have an obligation to it...you can't simply just not show up. That isn't fair to the rest of the children who play.

Still, all in all I thought these two families did a great job of learning from one another. I like the fact that the "competitive" family was trying to tone it down a few notches and were allowing their son to try some different avenues to express himself, and that the "punk" family had established some rules of order in that house...that the husband had started earning a living and helping around the house (I would have kicked him in the butt a lot sooner - if I'm working then somebody else better be cooking and cleaning...LOL!)

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Both had their good and bad points, IMO. Too much competition for "team collins" (did it ever occur to them to let their children have their own ideas and ways about them than forcing them to believe they like baseball.? That goes for the punk stuff, too)

It is apparent to all parents that the more you try to mold your children one way, once they get to that "age" the more they will go the other.

Allowing the kids in the Matlock familly to have no rules, no order, and speak as they please is not doing them any favors. The real world doesn't work that way, and it will not be acceptable as they go through life. They stated they didn't use "control" in parenting. Part of parenting is planning, teaching, and controlling the outcomes. It's the difference between teaching positive behavior and negative behavior. They both were teaching negative behavior. Winning isn't everything. Competion is about learning to play nicely, cope with loss, and being a gracious winner. How will those children learn to be good losers if losing isn't an option.
Did anyone catch when the dad said his parents didn't have the time or money for baseball when he was growing up?
The matlock family: The laziness of the dad ticked me off. Hey, she has to work all day AND come home and clean house while his lazy butt laid around all day? I don't think so. It's no wonder their house looked the way it did. The children are more than old enough to help out without being told to, but why should they if Dad doesn't set an example by helping mom? It's called respect. Their is no reason why dad doesn't work and spends his time on his "artwork" that can't even be shown on TV. Maybe the kids don't need to be exposed to it either then. The boy was so angry, and he blamed it on the kids at school because he was a "non-conformist"

What if he did want to find his own identity away from the PUNK aspect? I'll bet it wouldn't be acceptable to his parents because that is all they know. The daughter I felt very sorry for, she seemed ignored. She seemed to want to do her own thing, dress her own way, she wasn't dressed in black with her hair spiked or dyed funky colors. And, the parents commented that she was "different"

That was cruel. She wasn't different, she was herself, or at least trying to be and it wasn't acceptable.

I loved that the Collins kid was taking up guitar. Baseball can't be all there is for a child. Kid's need to express their creativity and be able to do the things they find interesting, not only what the Parents need them to do. I never heard that dad say one time "good job son" all he did was yell at him during the game. Way to build morale.

I also loved that the Matlock kid got to try something so very unrelated to Punk, Darkness, and Death. I wish they could have done the same for the girl.

The mom only allowing the kids to listen to one kind of music is not ok. While she should monitor what they listen to, they should be allowed to listen to and like their own things. Maybe when they are in the car with her, they can only listen to one thing, but they should be allowed to listen to what they want when they are in the rooms or something. The youngest boy was so cute!

The good thing was that both families were very FAMILY oriented and spent a ton of time together. That is priceless.

Well, that is what I gathered from one hour of these people. JMHO.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
What was Carson's sister's name anyways? She was totally ignored--even by the show!

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
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Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
Wow, nothing mentioned about last night's Wifeswap. These two families were really different...further apart than some in the past.

Mom of beauty pageant superstar winner who eats no veg and always eats in front of tv and who thinks looks (personal and clean home) are most important swaps with mom who hasn't brushed her hair in years, has daughter who decided at age 9 to be homeschooled, rarely cleans, no tv, only organic veg. food.

The teaser for the last segment ended with a mention of will this couple get divorced?

They didn't. It all turned out pretty well.

The pageant girl didn't even look like a real girl in her photos.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Native_texan a private message Print Post    
Happymom, I rolled when they showed the family eating in front of the TV and then they showed that the TV has been turned into an aquarium.

I worked with a woman whose 2 daughters participated in pageants during the same period of time that Jon Benet Ramsey was killed. She would get defensive to the point being irrational about pageants. I am not saying it is the same in all cases, but this woman was also very large and very materialistic and had given up her dream of being an opera singer when she married.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I watched this Wifeswap.

Didnt like Pagent mom & dad at all. Unfortunately, the hippydippy artist lady was bordering on a form of mental illness in my opinion. She obviously HAD brushed her hair many times in the last few years or it would have been a rats-nest or dreadlock looking. I have seen unbrushed hair..she was lying for attention in my opinion.

I often wonder how they weirdo types get away with taking their kids out of school and isolating them way out in the booneys. The Dad seemed to be a healthy kindhearted guy who really loved his daughter and wwas stil in the marriage because of that daughter. The wife was in her own little world.

I felt bad that the TV was ripped apart by the two week update. That was not enough time for the novelty to have worn off. Then to have the young girl state that 'she was addicted' .........well, brainwashed might be more realistic!

In some ways I wish that counselling was offered as part of this show. The hippy lady said that her sister was horribly jealous of her when they were growing up. I would suggest that is why she has swung in the Opposite direction as far as caring about her appearance. Many she feels she is making amends because of her guilty feelings due to her childhood family.

I dont know. Sometimes it all gets confusing when I watch these shows.

That little pagent girl was incredibly arrogant and petulant in my opinion. What parent would feel that behaviour is appropriate for a Five year old? They seemed to be doing everything she demanded because they want her to win.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 7:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
I cant find Trading Spouses on anywhere. Has this season started yet?

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Cable, WipeSwap has started, but TS has not.

I did not find the 5 year old arrogant. I think 5 is a bit young to actually be arrogant. I think she was a fairly typical 5 year old--especially for a firstborn. I also didn't see her demanding anything.

I liked the pageant family much better, I was surprised, cuz I think pageants are silly. Hannah sure is a good looking kid though! At least the mom did not seem anywhere near as crazed as the one mom from showbiz moms & dads.

I also thought the pageant family was much more receptive to change.

Hippy mom was too over the edge. I am surprised Lucy wouldn't want to go to a regular school for the socialization.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 8:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I'll NEVER understand the pagent mindset.

I'm always amazed that these people are found and willing to be put on display. Everything in moderation. Hippydippyartistmom, imo has serious issues and her daughter will pay for them in the long run, socially. The look on the daughters face while shopping was priceless. I doubt she enjoyed herself more than that shopping trip. I thought it was so cute that the little girl was so pleased she even got excited about the bottons on her new skirt.

Hippydippyartistdad seemes like a doormat.



Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cablejockey a private message Print Post    
Thanks Julie--I'm glad I didnt miss any yet.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I did like the relationship that artist dad had with his daughter.

The lack of nutrition in the pageant family really bothered me. Eating every meal in front of the tv bothered me also.

I worry about all the kids in this episode.

I've never seen much about pageants. It seems to me from this show that pageants and all that goes with are somewhat time consuming much more so than a child in soccer or whatever. I don't really know though. It seemed like so much a part of their lives in that family. I don't understand that.

It still amazes me that the girl in the pageants did not even look real in her photo. I think artist mom even mentioned that she looked like an actual doll.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 2:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Tonights wifeswap was uncomfortable to watch.

A real estate workaholic wife (tw0 kids) trades places with a stayathome/ homeschool Mom (7 kids)

The workaholic mom seemed really sensible and this show gave her a headsup about what should be important in life.

The weirdo Obsessivecomplusive terrified of germs mom was scarey. She really was in need of psychiatric help. The kids were not allowed to ever go anywhere or do anything, even the 16 yr old. The kids had no independance of any kind and everyone slept together in one big bedroom.

I thought the dad of the many kids did a great job of letting go. The two older girls desperately needed to gain some selfesteem and independance.

I really wish someone had told that obsessive mom that her kids were going to leave her and never want to come back!

Seriously, if my mom was embarrassing the way that nutty mom was, I'd leave and never come back other than holidays. That mom had serious anxiety problems. EVERYONE was a molester, everyone is dirty with germs and disease, everyone is going to hurt the kids. It was just sick.

((just my opinion))