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Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Getting started... :-)

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

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missed the task assignment. Can someone fill me in?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 7:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Heck, I'm waiting for anyone to fill me in on everything! :-)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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oh heck, guys, I'm so sorry ... I didn't even think to come in here and check to see if anyone was spoiling ... here's what I remember ...

1. excel waited up til after midnight for someone to come back from the board room. One of the guys was up at 1:30 before going to bed.

2. the next morning they met Trump, Carolyn, George and Kelly Perdue at one of his buildings. Excel was given the option to pick someone from the other team and they picked Randall.

3. The task was to do a presentation/ seminar for the Learning Annex.

4. Excel picked standing out at work (or something like that) and Capital edge picked Sex in the workplace.

5. Randall was PM for excel and Adam for Capital Edge.

posting

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

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Whoa-Carolyn you tramp!

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

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I'll hit the highlights for you Costa.

We started with the Apprenti in the suite waiting for the returnees from last week's boardroom. Many scenes of them waiting as the time passes. Of course, there are no returnees, so they finally go to bed. The next morning when they meet Trump for the task assignment, they are told that the others were all fired. Excel was given the choice of a member from Capital Edge and picked Randal. Excel is now Randal, Marshawn, Brian and Rebecca. Capital Edge is Markus, Adam, Clay, Alla and Felisha.

I missed the actual assignment, but just going from what I saw of the tasks and the aftermath, the assignment was to create a class for The Learning Annex. They were judged by customer comments cards.

Show is back and I can't type and watch. I'll pick up during the next commercial break.



Cdbga
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10-04-2004

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Oh good, Lady Tex, I'll let you take it from here. I need to head to bed, anyway. Thanks!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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okay, here's more ...

6. Randall did a great job and was complimented during session by George.

7. Adam was very hesitant from the beginning but loosened up a bit. During presentation Clay said some inappropriate things (ala Jim from Martha).

8. Capital Edge got an average of 6.4, and Excel got an average of 7.something, with Randall getting much props on the written evals.

9. Excel got a shopping trip to some designer. sorry didn't catch who.

10. In boardroom Clay got called out for anti-semite comments.

still in boardroom ... hang on ...

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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in boardroom some of them blaming Markus, he'd been a little difficult at the beginning. They said that his speaking skills were lacking.

many of them blaming Clay for his comments, but he was complimented on bringing up homosexuality without excitement or chaos, or drama (clay is homosexual) everyone seemed to know except Trump, lol

Adam decided to bring Markus and Clay back to boardroom with him...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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Thanks Lady and Cd!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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George says he's most disappointed with Clay....
Carolyn says Markus waits til the task fails then says told ya so ... Trump likes Adam ...

trump talking to adam about being uncomfortable with subject matter (sex), he asked adam if he ever did, and he declined to answer as there was a woman in the room. both other guys put him down on his leadership skills

carolyn called markus out, asked him what he did on the task. the other two guys bashed him.

adam said that he thinks the task was lost because of clay's comments. trump joking about adam not being comfortable talking about sex and it causing him alot of trouble and money. trump telling markus that he always has an excuse and uses too many words. trump telling clay that he does really believe that he is NOT anti-semitic, but some of his comments were very inappropriate. trump tells adam he's soft.

markus is fired. he did not go quietly, argued with trump on his way out, called this a railroad from the beginning.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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<gasp> Clay is homosexual? No way! :-)

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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Wow! Backtalking to Trump! Love it and can't wait to see it!

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

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some incomprehensible babble in the taxi,about how intelligent he speaks, he was taken advantage of, blah, blah

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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LOL Lady... incomprehensible babble about how intelligent he speaks? LMAO!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

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Markus is one of a kind...hopefully.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

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Sorry, I couldn't spoil tonight, I have been TRYING to work on my essay.

Costa, you have to watch the boardroom. Two highlights are 1) the degree to which Trump "coaches" Adam on all things sexual (I felt like I was in Family Life class in junior high all over again) and 2) The back talk that Markus does after being fired. Trump is classy enough to wish him luck, and Markus is like "If you really MEAN it." Blah blah blah.

Hey, did anyone notice Clay's little *snit* when they were entering the elevator? He goes to Adam "Don't talk to me!" Then, you'll notice when they are entering the suite during the credits, Clay slams open the door and storms in.

I didn't think Clay had it that bad in the boardroom AT ALL. I wonder why he was all testy.

Trump's sex talk with Adam made ME uncomfortable. I would hate to have been Adam. Poor kid.

I like how Markus said in the cab ride, "I get to the point. (pause) I talk about details." Bwah ha ha!!
Ketchup - LOL!!!

Curlyq
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From what we've seen of Clay in the past, I don't think he's the type to roll with the punches. I expect him to be very spiteful and vengeful where Adam is concerned after this. I'm glad Trump pointed out how important it was that Adam said he didn't think Clay was an anti-Semite, because it brought back memories of that other contestant who got so much flack for her "Jewish old bats" remark. I think Clay was just trying to repeat what Adam had said about himself earlier, but he added the word "tight" which I don't think Adam had used. He was a train wreck even without that comment, though.

The whole idea was just bad. I felt so bad for Adam because he knew from the beginning that the idea was a bad one but he caved to the pressure of not wanting to be perceived as Uptight Virgin Boy. Then Trump makes it worse by asking point-blank on camera. Maybe I'm crazy, but I don't think your sexual experience should determine whether or not you're right for a job (except in prostitution) and I don't think it's a boss's right to even ask you about it.

I'm surprised that the ratings the two teams got were as close as they were.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

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I was surprised at how close the ratings were, too. Very curious.

Sunshyne4u
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I found it inappropriate the way that DT was hounding Adam as to his sexual background. So many people who are staunchly religious chose to abstain. DT seemed to be trying to get him to go on and on about his religious views which, in my opinion, should have nothing to do with getting a job as Apprentice.

Clay got a bum rap! no pun intended. Adam was continuously going on and on about being jewish and was making a comment about Not wanting to waste money taking a girl out to dinner. Clay mumbled something about being a tight jew. He did NOT SAY Tight *ss jew. It was shown very clearly on the show tonight.

I hate it when people imbelish a comment to make it seem really bad. However, I really was amazed that Clay was making those 'slapping *ss" comments infront of the crowd!!! I figure he will be next to be fired if on the losing team.

Marcus cracked me right up this episode. The man makes no coherent conversation at all. He is so confusing and i still am amazed he did so well with the old folks and Tivo demonstration.

Maybe he only shines when he is in absolute control of a situation?? Marcus seems to have serious illusions of grandeur! Even his cab monologue was impossible to follow or understand.}

Clutterfree
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I just rewatched the show, and am also surprised that Randall's team didn't win by a wider margain. The presentation by all team members seemed so on-target, and the organization so well done...from Jessica making sure they had pencil and water going in, to somone else checking to make sure everyone had their workbook for the class (lots of neat little perks to make people feel comfortable and at home). Then dividing class into 3 segments, with workbook exercises to discover communication style, then lecture highlights, then interactive part where people were split into smaller groups and really got to know each other, with followup again from Randall analyizing what people thought made an impression in delivery (like facial expression).
One thing I wondered was how long this whole class lasted? Two hours? Longer?

Randall really got people in the class to react, and seemed to "pump them up", whereas when the question was asked in other class "how many have had a crush on someone in workplace", it seemed the audience was initially at least deadened in response. I wonder what we are NOT seeing here that made the results so close. Even what was read from the response cards made it seem there would have been a wider margain.

I wonder if there is anything Randall can do to wreck his chances of being the winner? I haven't seen anything so clear cut since Kelly in the second season.

Fruitbat
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Ketchup LOL! The cab ride with Markus was the highlight of this season. Precious freak, that one.

Apparently Clay does not embrace the strategy of letting the BR go and concentrating on the next step. This will prove to be a big mistake if they can't talk it out.

I missed commenting on the 4 firings last week. My theory is that extra firings were scheduled in before the season was taped. Trump mentioned, in an interview, that he did not like having his hands tied by the limit of one. By firing 4 he has now eliminated the possibility of firing 2 twice which, I believe, was the original plan.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

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I think the reason Randall's team didn't win by a wider margin is because the scale rating system is relative.

To some people, on a rating of 1-10, a 6 would be a low score... to others it would be considered better than average. I think they should have had the SAME people attend both... then the ratings for Randall would have been OFF THE HOOK (had he been second)

Cdbga
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10-04-2004

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Loved that they just let them wait for someone to return from the boardroom and didn't tell them about the mass firing until the next morning. Watching them wait was funny!

Did Markus even get out a complete sentence last night? I mean, he had ample opportunity and said a whole lot, but it seemed like he'd start saying one thing, then mid-sentence he'd start another sentence...very hard to follow.

Randal continues to impress. I loved his statement about picking a safe topic he and his team were knowledgeable about, rather than going for a splashier topic that he didn't know a lot about. I don't think I've loved an apprentice wannabe this much since Bill Rancic (in a completely professional way, of course).

I, too, felt a bit uncomfortable for Adam during Trump's sex talk. If my boss asked me if I'd ever had sex, we'd be taking a trip to Human Resources. It is not that I'm uncomfortable with sex or with talking about sex, but some things just don't belong in the workplace...although considering that their topic WAS sex in the workplace, I guess they opened themselves up to that...Trump just took it too far and got too personal. Anyway, I think Adam is just adorable. I didn't realize he was from the Atlanta area, maybe I'll have to look him up ;)

Found the whole "Clay is gay" thing in the boardroom funny, too. When Trump asked Clay if he was gay and Clay said yes and Trump is like "Really?" Reminded me of the last time I heard Trump ask someone if they were gay...last season with Chris. That was a completely different response, with Chris very vehemently stating "No, sir I am not a gay man" or something like that. I wondered if Trump had flashbacks to that, and that was why he seemed in disbelief at the very calm "Yes" he got from Clay. Seemed like he thought Clay was pulling his leg for a minute there!



Costacat
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LOL Eeyore! I just watched the show, and came here to comment on Clay's little tantrums at the end of the show (the "don't talk to me commment" to Adam in the elevator, and the doorslamming as he returns to the suite). I really would love it if Trump saw that bit of tape -- it really might cap his opinion of Clay. Which, to me, was a petulant spoiled little brat.

Whether or not Clay actually said "tight-assed" I think the implication was pretty clear. And there was quite obviously an awkward moment after he said it.

Regardless of the appropriateness of Primarius' topic (which, btw, seemed like no one really learned anything), I think Markus definitely needed to go. His "I can only come up with one big idea" statement following his truly incoherent explanation of time management and how it related to god knows what was hysterical.

And yes, I truly loved them waiting for 8 hours for the others to come back. Hello? Eight hours? You really think the boardroom would run that long? That showed a lack of common sense, to me. But it was a kick watching them.

I am really thinking Randal is gonna take this one. Or at least put up a good fight in F2. I really don't see any of the others showing more class or leadership abilities. And now that I think about it, I actually kinda hope he does win. I do think he'd be an asset to the Trump organization.

Thank gawd Markus is gone. I don't think I could've taken another week of his babbling! :-)