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Pirate
Member
06-20-2002
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:34 pm
I enjoyed the show. The only thing I wanted different was for the "Creative" team to know that the "Corporate" team used a focus group. I thought that was very significant. I think it will get better as the show continues and am looking forward to next week. The first show is always the roughest.
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Callasin
Member
06-21-2005
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:35 pm
I just finished watching the show. I am not a big Martha fan so I have not heard much about it. I agree it was just like The Apprentice with Martha instead of Donald. I like The Apprentice so it didn't bother me. I remember that other show though. Matchstick was an "ok" name but I didn't care for Primarius. Martha didn't have much to say about that name either but she seemed to like Matchstick. I was disapointed with the first task. I was expecting something that involved food or decorating...something artsy...not writing a children's book using old fairy tales. I laughed when the most charasmatic contestant was named Howie. Are we going to have a Howie on every reality show now?
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Finqwik
Member
09-23-2000
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 7:40 pm
Have to agree with you there scorpiomoon the contestants were not very appealing. The guy who left today was awful, the other teams Project manager was a bossy knickers too. And whats wrong with someone needing silence to create in, I think they should have found her some ear plugs or a closet instead of being mean to her. Too many suits too many executives it might as well be The Apprentice. I was hoping for something a little more hands on. Heck even The Cut was better than this. But I'll probably keep watching it,afterall I did watch The Cut all the way to the bitter end too.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:02 pm
I'll watch again. Matchstick is a alright name. Did they show how whacked name Primarius was settled on...I must have missed that part. There are more than a few head trips in that contestant pool.
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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 8:32 pm
I watched part of the show and wasn't impressed. I admit, I will probably watch it again.

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Lizadee
Member
08-02-2005
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:21 pm
I started watching this and then got interrupted by a storm that was going thru my area Now this has happened b4 butt for a an entire hour they didn't even show us any of the show except the 1st 2 min. And then when they came back on it was for the 8:00 show And no mention about Martha or when we can see it Darn't it will they show the 1st episode again ??
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:26 pm
Here we go with contrievances... Are we supposed to really believe that during the vetting process, there was no question do you know anyone in my company. Or, that if she did not know he was with the company, that they did not check for conflicts. Or, at least when they finally met dump her. Argh. Dalm.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:43 pm
No kidding. That is hard to believe to say the least. I did enjoy the show though. The task and the teams were both more interesting than recent Apprentices. And, I think that Martha made the right decision with who she "fired".
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Tess
Member
04-13-2001
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:52 pm
Liz, we were knocked out by the same storm. I was trying to watch Martha on channel 11 and tape Lost on 5 and we got a heck of a mess instead. Maybe some kind soul will give a short synopsis so we have a clue next week.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:57 pm
This show is so good that even the snarkers over at TWoP like it by and large! Hee! I love Ms. Stewart's subtle disses at people, like when she repeated "Primius" or whatever the hell that name was with disdain. I also like Charles Koppleman being on this show. He was in the music industry for a long time and I have never known what he looks like. He is a great character. I am less fond of Alexis with her shorter hair, but her hair was very fine when it was longer so I guess she thinks this makes it look fuller. The loft is lovely. Excellent taste and filled with MSL products. What more can one want? I don't understand why people think this is a kinder, gentler Apprentice, though. I think Martha is much tougher, much less willing to suffer fools, and she just does it in a less direct, overly-aggressive way than old Don. As someone said above, "more tasteful," but I think more bruising. I also like that the voice-overs seem organic; the editing of the show is crisper and more realistic so the edited in voices seem less absurd than they do on Old Don's version of the show. Some of the contestants are obviously wrong for MSLO. Carrie? Makeover time. Ditto for Dawna, Chuck, and David. Ms. Stewart's business concerns aesthetics...those self-presentations might generously be called anti-aesthetic.
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 9:57 pm
I think the show was fine. I enjoyed it. It's only the premiere so of course things are going to be a bit stilted at first. I will say though that it's clear that the talent pool for the apprentices are an entirely different breed than the group that Trump attracts --- as to be expected. Some of the Martha 'touches' were perfect and felt more organic and less bombastic than Trump's. I loved that she is the person who called them to give them the morning appointment whereas Trump would never stoop to something like that.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 10:20 pm
I really liked this show a lot!!! Like the Matchstick name, hate the Primerib name. I think Dawn and Jim are both wack-jobs and won't last long. I liked when Jeff got all over Dawn when she wanted to eat her banana. She was really odd. I laughed when he invited her into the bathroom with him, "but I will be naked." (or whatever he said...) Jeff probably did deserve to go, although Dawn was way more irritating. Doesn't bother me that it is similar to The Apprentice. Glad Apprentice is on tomorrow. So is Survivor and ER. Also, Jeff will be on Martha's daytime show tomorrow...
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Aeromel
Member
06-11-2005
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 10:21 pm
Hi! I just missed the last five minutes...got stuck on another show while surfing during the commercial!! Can someone tell me who got the ax? Thanks!!! ETA Thanks Julieboo! LOL
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 10:22 pm
Loved loved loved the show.. not disappointed at all - in fact I was even more pleased and this was one of two new shows I was excited to see - LOVED the theme song - so perfect for Martha just as "Money" is perfect for Donald now for the substance - I too expected a more Martha stewart living type apprentice BUT I was happy when they didn’t have that framework and was more into having an apprentice for the company - Martha isn’t looking for the best homemaker - she wants someone to help with the company and the company is much more than baking and gardening - its about creativity AND business savvy and that is what she wants to see - she wants someone who will have the creative mind that she has to expand or create new ideas and products or campaigns BUT even with the best idea you cant make it a success unless you know how to sell it - that is what makes Martha Martha - that she can create all these things AND knew to invest in magazines, books, TV etc to MARKET what would be very cute things that only her friends knew about if not for her business savvy ... last thought for the night - I think the first task should be the first task for ANY type of apprentice show - I thought the biggest message in the apprentice last year (or the season before) was the home depot assignment when the one team did the how to build it yourself workshop to make a nice product but they did all the work while the winning team created a very SIMPLE box but something that the whole family from 3-65 could help build and paint and so they targeted the audience, got the customers involved and won the task .... and that is what business - and any kind of work or project in life is about - KNOWING your audience and understanding their needs and desires - whether you are a cook, salesman, teacher, doctor or mother, if you don’t focus on your audience you will never get the success you may be seeking - whatever kind of "success" that is and so to make them do the first task as a way to target kids was a great crash course on how good they can be in dealing with different people.
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Wink
Member
10-06-2000
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 10:37 pm
That Jim guy makes me very nervous. Either they need to get him on some downers or they're all going to have to take uppers to be able to deal with him. Wingnut, whackjob or just a creative genius? Love Martha. Love the show.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 10:39 pm
Was that a cigar in Charles's mouth when they were looking at the kids focus group thing? Anyone else think it was weird that the Creative Director was not on the creative team? (Unless I messed that up, in which case just ignore this!)
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:20 pm
Actually, I liked Jeff, and was sorry to see him go. I liked his rhyming book, I loved the illustrations, and I really liked his take charge leadership. Again I think we are left with the nut jobs because they will create drama. In real life I would have gotten rid of both of them in a minute. I think the criticism of the book was disingenuous. Grimms Fairy Tales are dark tales and all children's books don't necessarily have to be politically correct. They weren't giving today's children near enough credit to know the difference between right and wrong. Look how popular the series of Unfortunate Events Books are. I wasn't satisfied with the outcome but the show was interesting nonetheless.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:21 pm
...or Captain Underpants!
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:37 pm
Must say I agree with the gist of Scorpio's comments. I was disappointed, though I am not ready to throw in the towel.. the previews look a bit better. But this first ep. did not hold a candle to DT's imho. I actually found Martha and her sidekicks a bit creepy. DT imo comes off as much more real. And underneath the tough business exterior he seems a softie. Whereas Martha's 'softer' mask feels unshakably fake, underneath I imagine is much a colder, harder woman. And she didn't come close matching Trump's charisma and displayed little personality I thought - and I was expecting more. I also didn't like the way she lost control of the losers in the boardroom. I couldn't believe how she sat back looking awkward and helpless as they bickered over one another. It looked like she didn't want to interfere for fear of looking harsh and hadn't a clue what to do. I suspect this will change, judging from the previews.. At this point, I'd def feel more at ease in DT's boardroom (even if he does say 'fired.') I actually like his straightforwardness. Martha I suspect will unpredictably drop her mask and blindside people. Plus, her reception area was so austere it was creepy - kinda like a hospital, but worse Sorry Martha fans - jmho. And it may change.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 11:45 pm
I really, really enjoyed the show. Half the time, in Trump's show, his decision seems arbitrary and out of nowhere. Martha was direct--she said the project was about making connections and Jeff didn't connect with the kids or his team. Dawn was only pointing out what was wrong with the book, and if they'd listened to her, they might have won. The publishers made the same criticisms that she did. Loved it when Martha asked if their book would have been better if Dawn hadn't eaten the banana! There are enough, er, eccentric people on the show--it should be fun to see what antics they will pull.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 7:56 am
GAA! The editing was choppy. I got no sense of the flow of the project. Too much time was spent on that long intro about Martha. Maybe it will be better next time. I was disappointed in the conference room scene. I expected Martha to come down VERY HARD on the team leaders dictatorial style. Are we seeing her attempt to have a softer image? And the hand written letter? **groan** Not honest and just stupid. Also odd, was her assistant's, who witnessed the leaders bullying, lack of participation. George or Carolyn would have, certainly. Jim needed some harsh words, as well. Way too soft. On the editing room floor, perhaps? I will continue to watch, of course, but I was disappointed. I did like Martha's comment on the banana and her lack of response to the name Primarus. I look forward to more edges from her. I know they are under there and covering them with diplomacy is not going to work for the viewers. Say what you are thinking Martha. Her tag line, "you don't fit in" is all about avoiding a strong critique. It implies, you are great but you just need to find another place that will work for you. They guy she fired will NOT fit in anywhere with that attitude! I missed which contestant works in her company, can someone tell me, please?
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:05 am
Fruit, I don't think any contestant works for her company. Bethenny is/was friends with Charles's daughter and dated his son--several years ago.
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Kimmykm
Member
08-26-2003
| Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 8:58 am
not a martha fan but did like the show alot! martha appears to have some approachability in this show that i've never seen come across before. watched her morning show 'martha' but didn't like it one bit. in it, she seems strangely uncomfortable.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:25 am
<<And the hand written letter? **groan** Not honest and just stupid.>>
ITA Fruit.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, September 22, 2005 - 10:27 am
That said, maaayybe the letters will get better, more meaty and incisive as the season progresses. But I'm not holding my breath..
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