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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 12:00 am
How big are you though Dee? (I dont want to know ...I am just being hypothetical) If you are 145 lbs and lost 16 lbs that is amazing- you must have been very ill...however, if you are 240 lbs and lost 16 lbs then it is likely that you just werent eating and drinking properly/ ie: the ratio of REAL weight lost is completely different. I am on some meds which ballooned my weight up. If I stop them I will lose a miraculous 10-15 lbs within a week. Is it legitimate weight loss? nope (just an example)
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 9:51 am
I totally agree with your 'rant' Avrey. I haven't really seen any sign of friendship between the women players. Not just this show, but I see it on the Apprentice and Survivor. I was surprised to hear them say that Ryan was the trouble maker, when it looked to me that the other blonde woman was stirring the pot more. Bob was even lecturing her about her attitude. It didnt make sense to take them to Las Vegas then to play a game, they had to forgo training. What if they all said no? Then they would have had a big gap--everyone sitting in the casino doing nothing!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 4:37 pm
I wish they would've addressed the fact that the women who worked out with Matt all lost more weight than the women who stuck with their trainer. That was sad. Those other women missed out on the extra cash for nothing. Why on Earth did Matt agree to train them? It was in his team's best interest not to. It was also in his team's best interest to leave Ryan in the game if they thought she was causing the most dissension in the blue team. That wasn't very strategic at all. In any event, Suzanne is the one who seemed more like trouble to me. I don't think the women's team will be able to get it together until she's out. I'm not too impressed with the stereotype of contentious women, since there's also been discord on men's teams as well. That just doesn't get as much attention on shows like these. I can't remember the last time I saw a group of men just adoring each other without at least two of them battling to be the alpha male. Yet for some reason when women are thrown together they're all expected to become friends. What I really like about this year is that the biggest loser on the losing team gets immunity. That way no matter how messed up your team is you're still in control of whether or not you stay in the game. That avoids what happened last year when the guy who lost the most weight got voted out early because they felt he didn't need to be there anymore.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 4:53 pm
quote:I'm not too impressed with the stereotype of contentious women, since there's also been discord on men's teams as well.
Not since they got rid of Nick.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 7:37 pm
When I was in OTS in Lackland, TX in 1967, we were overworked & underfed to lower our resistance to brainwashing. It was so hot that I went from 124 lbs to 109 in one week (and had to drop out of the Air Force because I was under minimum wt) I'm 5' 8" & did not regain the weight until I had my first child in 1983.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Thursday, October 06, 2005 - 8:52 am
Maybe Matt was lobbying to be kept if and when the women have to vote against the men.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:35 pm
Why would you want your resistance to brainwashing lowered?
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:13 pm
Anyone know who left tonight?
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:35 pm
SUZANNE also showed her after she went home, she was on rollerblades, she said she wanted to be down ( lose 100 pounds for the reunion show ) but she looked good, she was down to 150 something , 30 pounds shy of that one hundred pounds, so i guess she lost 70 pounds so far, so way to go suzanne.
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Meggieprice
Member
07-09-2001
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:41 pm
So the women lost again. I think the women against the men was not too good an idea-even though they do percentages women have a whole different physical makeup with body fat due to the potential of giving birth. Too bad. I am glad she is still losing- I want to see her in that wedding dress!
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 9:50 pm
I was glad to see Suzanne go. The challenge was lame...It was one continous Jello commercial. I wasn't really into tonights show...it really didn't grab my attention. I hope Wrestler guy doesn't walk out next week like the teaser suggested.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:36 pm
Thank freaking God Suzanne is gone. Even though her body looked good during the "how she looks now" segment, her face still didn't appeal to me and she still had that annoying presence about her. It was so good to see Drea again! I think she has been the only person from either season who was utterly and passionately devoted to being there. Every time I watch this new bunch, I don't see a lot of "my life depends on this weight loss" kind of vibe. Does anyone else find it strange that they never, ever show interviews with Seth? We see all the other men either in confessional or being interviewed outside. But never Seth. The blatant Jello product placement was a total insult to the viewers' intelligence.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:25 pm
insult?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 1:35 am
From an above post...Why on Earth did Matt agree to train them? It was in his team's best interest not to. It was also in his team's best interest to leave Ryan in the game if they thought she was causing the most dissension in the blue team. That wasn't very strategic at all. Matt is a smart guy. He has got the women loving him! When they all merge he has a much better chance staying in the game. I am surprised that the other guys let him get away with it!! ******************************** 160 lbs is a far way from thin...however, Suzanne seems to be trying to get fit which is more important than thin. Dre was great to see. I was pleased to see that she is still a decent weight...none too thin. I like seeing healthy but large women on tv. I think it keeps people on a more realistic path. Men vs Women was a mistake in my opinion. It is awful watching the women try so hard to lose weight in a comparible way to the guys but it really isnt possible. These were HUGE men this season. Last year only two were that big. Ryan and Maurice. Ryan won as he had barely put on the weight so it came off much easier. Poor Maurice tried so hard but wasnt he diabetic?? I know they tried to blame his diet and hinted at cheating but I still think he should have lost more. I find this show demoralizing in so many ways. I wonder if they make them do any counselling??
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 1:36 am
maybe there were more than two last year....My brain isnt working tonight LOL
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 1:41 am
Counselling for what? Their weight issues or the crap they have to endure while being on the show? 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:09 am
hee hee Scorpio. I really think that some of the girls had unrealistic issues. Like Shannon who seemed to think that she was going to take home the secret to weight loss and 'help' her family. That seems like she is setting herself up for heartbreak to me. You cant make people do stuff, let alone family. Frankly, I am glad to see Jillian working with the guys. I find her really aggressive and that technique will not work with me. I dislike watching her yell at people LOL (I could use some counselling just because I watch this show LOL)
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 9:04 pm
******spoiler******** Ok so the men pulled it out again. I felt bad for wrestler guy, but he did it to himself. Jillian said it best. He was binging in the middle of the night, replacing everything he lost during the day. A midnight snack is one thing, but he was having a midnight meal. I really don't think this men vs women thing is working like they wanted it to. The men can produce to many big numbers and the women can't keep up with that. What about Mark choking on the stair challenge. I suspect he worked himself to hard by doubling his workouts. Jen...we hardly knew ya.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 10:52 pm
Yes, Nick, this just isn't working at all. Weight loss is much more complicated than just diet and excercise. Men and women are very different, physiologically, especially when it comes to percentage of fat.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 12:46 am
Tonight's episode was one of the best! Where to begin... That hike Jillian took the guys on and the stair challenge Mark and Andrea did would have killed me. I admire them for getting through both. Yikes. Seth speaks! They showed three clips of him talking! Matt scares me. I get that he's serious about losing weight and wanting to get back to the athlete he once was, but the guy always has this crazy, wide-eyed look all the time. And when he got upset over losing nothing, I thought he was going to start breaking the equipment or punching something. Considering how much they have shown him crying and the intensity that oozes from the guy, I'd say he has some deep seated unresolved issues. Jen looked amazing! Maybe it's just me, but I noticed her vibe changed as well. She seemed more confident--like she changed inside and out--unlike the chick who left last week (Suzanne). No more guys vs. girls as of next week. I am looking forward to the change.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 1:08 am
Jen looked amazing and she still weighed in the 190s!! She is beautiful and can carry off being a larger woman. Thank Goodness the producers have finally decided to stop the horrible men against women stuff. I hated tonights weigh-in. The woman are completely demoralized and I dislike how Bob the trainer seems 'surprised' that the women arent losing more weight. Yeah right, as if he doesnt know basic physiology!! Has anyone else, besides me, done those stairs at Universal Studios??? WOW I couldnt believe those people! I was 165 lbs and my friend was 120lbs level 5 aerobics exerciser. We both were amazingly winded just doing it ONCE! I'd love to know how long this comp took. 10 times is heartattack material LOL The teaser for next week hints that someone has a heart attack and then matt is interviewed saying he is too young. Hmmmmmm Matt is a bundle of anxiety and stress. Wonder if he ends up having a panic attack? which mimics a heartattack
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 8:51 am
Isnt Matt the one who gets up in the middle of the night and cooks up a snack? I thought for sure Jullian would freak out about it, but it seemed that he took responsibility for it and promised no more. But Matt is too emotional, and there must be a lot of things going on for him to have gained all that weight in the first place. I dont think the show goes into how these people lost control and what prompted them to seek comfort in food, that got them so big. I guess that would entail another show in itself.
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Wednesday, October 19, 2005 - 9:24 am
yes matt is emotional, but its a kind of self inflicked emotions, you dont see he going off on others, but the opisite will go do more to bond the group together, thats why i believe you see all the others there feeling his disapointment. .. i would next year that when one gets voted off, they could go to a seqeuster type spa are house and have another trainer there to help them keep it up say another month, to make sure they really do have a good chance to keep up some kind of plan ( not as intense) but something so they dont go back to the rut that alowed them to get so heavy in the first place, also if they get voted out to lose the chance to win the grand prize but to still be able to do as much as they could for the whole time period.. i trully believe most go and do the show for the chance to get help and group atmoshere to be able to finally face some of there weaknesses and to feel better and be slimmer and weigh less.. also i was suprised that the women as a whole didnt bond as a group, and the men did so strongly.. would like to hear form some of the women why that was?? well i started this post becuase i fell alot of same things i perceive mat is feeling, for me i dont lass out, just take and bottle it, and if i show any thing its towards myself. i have ankle, kneee, hip damage, and one elbow damaged, and cant tolerate heavy weights are walking, even riding a stationary bike, and hate beeing so fat. but a deit hasnt solved my promblem, but i am slowly losing some, still have about 100 pounds left.. and before anyone says you can do something, i have treid, i have dozens of books, tapes, have wrist /ankle strap on weights, dumbells, ropes, cords, eleastic straps, a stationary bike, 27 in 10 speed reg bike, a pilates 4000 machine, a weight bench, and also have had in the past, rowers, walkers, total gym, just cant do enough to make it work, for me one lap are twip to the wallmart are gocerystore ( 10 minutes of walking) leave me in incrutating pain. i hope to lose 60 r more pounds and then maybe be able to tolerate more exercise, dont know what i will do about the lose skin that will be lefted,lol. also i have no car, on disability, cant adford to do a gym are pay to get there, also when i first moved here i had a van, and did by a gym membership, for one yr, i went as least 3 times are more a yr, i swam, walked the track and did exercises, and some extras like pilates, thi chi, etc. but i never lost weightafter one yr 8 pounds, i am losing better doing a high protein deit, cut out the breads and cokes.. well didnt mean to vent, im sure mine is just one story of the hundreds are more who come here and read, good luck and best wishes for us all
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Mollyqule
Member
08-09-2005
| Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 4:53 am
Does anyone know if they are given make-overs at the end of the show? I like that Suzy with the glasses. She reminds me of someone I know and even talks like her.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 7:21 am
They weren't given makeovers last season.
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