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Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
I like Alla. She seems focused and has a good work ethic and seems to be able to play nice.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Kep, I know what you are refering to. Clay said he was going to make Jide a superstar. A real estate agent is going to send a singer off the charts with a song written by a bunch of business majors, to be played on a soft rock station to win a task on a game show. Just because this worked for Mick Jagger does not mean it will work for everyone.

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dalm_dad a private message Print Post    
I do think she is beautiful and regret that she cannot wear skirts, etc., due to foot.

I also asked my wife if she thought Reb had an eye job. We can't decide. Any feelings out there?

Dalm.
In love .... with Mrs. Dalm.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 12:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I agree with Auntiemike: Randall is really too good for Old Don and his bluster. The same is nearly true for the raven-haired woman and Adam.

Clay was quite a bitter young man. I think he watched All About Eve one time too many and decided to hold grudges as if he were Margo Channing. Fasten your seatbelt, it's going to be a bumpy night and all that....

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
LOL Dalm. I think I know what you may be seeing. Rebecca seems to have slightly slanted eyes (in style to do this surgically these days!)

however, I noticed that she often is swollen and tired looking around the eyes. I have a feeling that it is just a natural look. (or possibly a product like Clinique which puffs you up to fill in wrinkles)

Rebecca seems to have that Bland neutral smile on her face quite often. maybe botox LOL??

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 9:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Does anyone else find it weird (and maybe a little sad) that, as Fruitbat pointed out, a bunch of business majors were able to write and produce songs in one day that were deemed good enough to be on the radio? I know they had a songwriter and a producer helping them, but still.

Frankly, I thought the song Felisha's team wrote was kind of lame but at least it had a good enough sound that people didn't care about the lyrics. She was key in this task, because if she hadn't objected to the jazz sound they would've been in the same boat as Rebecca's team. It wasn't just that their singer was better. She was very specific about what she wanted, to the point of telling him how to hold the last note, etc.

Last night was the first time I remember ever seeing Rebecca loosen up and smile. She and Randall were losing before they got Clay, so Trump was wrong in saying Clay reduced two "stars" to nothing. One might even argue that they could've won with him on the team if the PM had been able to manage him the way Alla did when she was PM (sports shop task). Clay needed to go, but now Rebecca has 2 PM losses and Trump did note her apparent lack of leadership skills.

She was quick to point fingers at Randall and Clay, but she didn't seem to hold herself responsible for any of the mistakes. Her presentation was bad because of Clay. Randall was missing points. No mention of how she was in charge of both of them. They did discuss how R&B is her favorite type of music. She's really lucky Trump likes her so much because any other person in her place would've been canned regardless of whether or not Clay opened the door too soon. I think the only thing she brings to the table is her "step up" maneuver, presenting herself as some kind of self-sacrificing hero. After hearing that for the fourth time, it's getting old.

The extra clips on Yahoo are insightful, especially the one where Clay was buttering up Randall and Rebecca separately to get on their team. They both had a dislike for Capital Edge, so they fell for Clay's victim act. Then when they lost, Rebecca went to Adam for advice on how to handle Clay in the BR.

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dalm_dad a private message Print Post    
I agree that the task showed the pitiful state of current music

Oh, it should be more poppy...press the pop button. What ever happened to a song being an integrated vocals and music and not just pre-programmed tripe.

In reality, the task was creating a personality with writing a song attached to it.


Dalm.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 1:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I thought that the Levi-singer sounded a lot like Maroon 5.

One of my best friends is the VP Management of a major record label. The things I've learned from her about the music industry make me think that none of the music we hear is because it is GOOD. Mastering is a HUGE part of the process; and, don't think marketing dollars aren't a main reason why artist "make it big". Those two reasons alone are why beautiful people like Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan can strike record deals, with no real musical talent to sell.

I have great respect for bands like Dave Matthews, that spend more time touring and selling their live CDs, and not releasing many "mastered" albums.

Apologies for going off topic.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 4:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Curlyq, I don't think this task was weird or sad at all. My post was a comment on Clay thinking he could acutally influence Jide's career and make him a superstar!

My comment about Mick Jagger was supposed to be funny. I thought it was hysterical, but then I am often my own best audience.

They have to come up with unique tasks to make the show entertaining and create them around a product placement sponser. I assume the radio station approached them with this plan or at least a good bid to be considered for a task.

These shows are light entertainment and not to be taken very seriously. Most of these candidates are already accomplished in their fields, making more than Trump offers in pay. It is free advertising, fun and fabulous exposure.

Rebecca's face looked puffy this week. I think it is because she has been prescribed a steroid, Prednisone probably, to reduce swelling in her foot. She has been on the go and not able to rest with it elevated for long periods of time which is part of the recovery process.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 7:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Prednisone would not reduce pedial edema.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Thanks Seabreeze. My point is, I suspect some steroid/medication, that has been prescribed for swelling in her foot, is causing her puffy face. Since it is a common side effect of steroids that was my first guess. It was too much to chalk it up to Chinese food the night before.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 8:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Actually, prednisone might be used to reduce pedial edema. Keeping your legs elevated and using diuretics is preferable, but since Rebecca is on the go and can't keep her legs up, a doctor may have prescribed a steroid as a temporary measure.

Who's Mick Jagger?

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
I would not want that doctor who would prescribe it for pedial edema.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 3:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Either would I. I got the info from my ex who is a doctor.

Webchiq
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07-11-2005

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Webchiq a private message Print Post    
Not that it's where this thread should diverge, docs, but it's pedal edema, not pedial. A knowledgeable physician would not prescribe prednisone for this condition. They would prescribe Naproxen or a similar anti-inflammatory. Prednisone usage for other conditions is reduced when pedal edema sets in.

Mick Jagger is a famous football player <grin>.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 5:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Actually, and not to be snarky, but I'm not sure I'd want any of you to diagnose me. After googling "pedal edema", I think the primary underlying causes of pedal edema include congestive heart failure, renal failure, and (potentially) sleep apnea.

I would bet that her face looks puffy because she's not sleeping well. And she may not be eating well, either. And hanging around on crutches all day is not easy work. Add to that the stress of trying to perform well, and possibly still having some pain. Heck, I'd look puffy too! :-)

Vee
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02-23-2004

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 5:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vee a private message Print Post    
Those who are allergic to naproxen and all drugs with could well get prescribed prednisone as a viable alternative.

Weinermr
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08-18-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Weinermr a private message Print Post    
My cat is taking prednisone to reduce the excess calcium in her blood which is a secondary result and indicator of chronic renal failure.

Perhaps Rebecca is really a cat in disguise, and IS on prednisone, and is walking around on crutches because she has been hobbled by the multiple operations they performed to make her look human and the puffiness is edema caused by relative inaction because she is not allowed to exhibit catlike behavior while on camera or while participating in the multiweek job interview to have the privilege of working for (The) Donald Trump.

Maybe not.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 8:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Well, it would be unwise to disagree with me. I have not been wrong since 1986 when I mistakenly asserted that the Bee Gees had discovered the North Pole. Much to my chagrin, it turned out to be some loser named Roald Amundsen, a made up name if I ever heard one. I still believe a Gibb was involved somehow.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seabreeze a private message Print Post    
Spelling is not my forte when I was thinking radial pulses (wrist area) when I spelled pedal. I work with med and trauma/neuro/ortho pts and prednisone is never given for that. To do so is to practice poor quality medicine. In her case, pedal edema-pooling of fluid in her foot would best be served with getting off her legs.Prolonged standing and restriction of the immobilizer/cast would cause the pedal edema. A doc who has your best interests at heart will not take such a road and give prednisone. Prednisone is an excellent drug with many drawbacks and as such should be used appropriately.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
OMG Adven!! You totally made me laugh out loud!! Hilarious!!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 3:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Ah, prednisone and puffiness LOL

When I went on that med I gained 12 lbs in ONE day..a wee bit more than Puffy in my case. Mind you, anti-inflammatories also can balloon a person up. Naproxin put 10lbs on me within two days.

(((No need to apologise for spelling & typos Seabreeze. Thx for giving people the scoop on your experience. I find that some websites that show up during a search are not entirely accurate as per info. I find personal experience much more reliable than websites)))

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 6:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
This thread has been hyjacked. Back on topic.

The north pole has two kinds of weasels: ermine and wolverines. Lemmings, wolves, fox and musk ox among the more familiar polar bears and seals we have come to know reside there, as well. There is a singing group called Artic Monkeys but they do not live there. Their guitars would freeze.

Adven
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02-06-2001

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Adven a private message Print Post    
Thanks, HRH. All this prednisone talk was wearing me out. I tire easily when people disagree with me. Luckily, you've taken the high road and got us all back on track.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
got us all back on track

Hmmmmmm think so Eh??

Actually Fruitbat, the problem isnt with the guitars freezing. At extremely cold temperatures the metal of the guitar strings become very brittle and snaps easily ....whipping out eyeballs and causing cuts on the skin. Seriously, next time you see someone with one eye, ask them if they used to play guitar in the Arctic. You'll be surprised!!