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Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 9:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Exactly. Do I think it is right? Not at all. But it is disappointing that Renee didn't take a breath and realize what Carmen's true intention was. (Especially cuz Carmen is somewhat of a <º>, so you think Renee would know that and cut her a bit of slack.)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 10:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
why should she cut her any slack? that is totally unacceptable to call someone that you don't even know that and then to use the lame excuse that "I thought I was talking black" BULLCRAP and frankly, I think Carmen got off easily because most of the black women I know would have gone off on her worse than Renee did. and then to say it was a term of endearment ... oh please ...

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
you know, reading here, it sounds like that is more of a "white thing", than a "black thing", and yes, I know that is as absurd as carmen thinking it was a black thing ...

Denecee
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09-05-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 12:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Denecee a private message Print Post    
I think you are right Ladytex. I hear more white girls saying that to eachother but either way it's sound uneducated and immature.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I think, too, that Denecee hit the nail on the head when she said "girls." It's more of a younger generation thing (and then, from what I've seen, only among friends), and Carmen is definitely not young enough to get away with that!

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 1:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
Well, I'm old and educated but yes, my friends and I are being immature when we say it and I hadn't noticed it being either a black thing or a white thing but instead a dorky pop culture reference. I have never taken much offense at the B word though, nor most cuss words. People can pretty much say what they want around me and I'm always surprised when I offend someone else.

In fact, I offended my best friend last week! I used the "c" word in a message I left for her and apparently that was too much. I really didn't know it would piss her off and I apologized. She is over it now. (and I wrote a hilarious poem about it for her birthday, guess what all I rhymed!)

Anyway, I think Carmen has committed many errors and she often makes me uncomfortable but this one I did not understand the reaction to. She didn't even call her a B, she asked what's up B?

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bob2112 a private message Print Post    
Madelane: You reminded me of some Chicago trivia:

Q: What three streets in Chicago rhyme with a woman's private part?
A: Paulina, Melvina and Lunt.


Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 2:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
Maybe it is a generational thing, but I don't want to be called the "B" word and if one my friends called me the "C" word I think I would have a hard time getting over it.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 2:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    

quote:

She didn't even call her a B, she asked what's up B?




How is that not calling her a b*tch? Is she talking to someone behind her? Just thinking outloud? When I say "What up shawty?" I'm calling that person shawty. So I'm not understanding how she wasn't calling her that.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
What's shawty? I never heard of that before.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
I don't mean to be flip, but is "what's up doc" calling someone a doctor? To me, when you say what's up anything, it's friendly, it's a way of saying hello!

Saying "you are a B" or "you are being a B" is mean and nasty and I would hate for someone to say that to me. But, "hey, what's up B?" is NOT calling me a B. I may not like it, and obviously Renee didn't, but it IS different from calling her a B.

Julieboo - shawty (or shorty) is a term of endearment for a cute girl.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I totally disagree. And shawty can be used for a male too.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Roxip a private message Print Post    
I thought a shawty was a child.

Wendo
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08-07-2000

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 4:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wendo a private message Print Post    
I have never heard the word shawty before. New one here. LOL!

ETA: Thanks for the links Mocha.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I think the bottom line is the actual intended meaning. I do not believe that Carmen meant any insult. If Renee "let it go" (or at least though about Carmen's intention), I think there'd be a lot less tension.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I have never heard the word shawty either, and I am a bit of a linguist, although not a cunning one.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    


Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I really enjoyed the daughter and her poetry group last night.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, March 17, 2006 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Shawty

Well the original def. from Atlanta was what my first guess was.

And my opinion is that using terms like "b!tch" would best be limited to use at dog shows where it takes the original meaning, or only with good friends.. or someone you want to piss off. I cannot imagine using it with a stranger, not to mention the nature of this particular show.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 9:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
and that's probably why the producers put it on the list of "black" language. They want that pot stirred!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Yes #2. Not sure bout it orginating in Atlanta but whateva. And I guess those who've never heard it have never been in a black neighborhood sittin on the stoop listening to folk. And I don't mean the bougie neighborhoods.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    

If I am in chocolate withdrawl, I can be one heck of a B...!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 8:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the link, Seamonkey.

You are right, Mocha. I have not been in a black neighborhood in a long, long time. Town I live in now is so white the next largest ethnic group after Caucasian is Native American. It is pitiful. Big difference after living in big cities with a rich ethnic mix for 25 years.

Haven't seen episode two yet. Taping it tonight in case I can't stay up until 11. I gather the infamous incident is in this episode.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 8:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lilfair a private message Print Post    
If someone wants to feel insulted they can stretch anything.

No way did she mean to insult Mrs. Sparks in anyway...she was reading off that sheet of paper.

That being said Mr. and Mrs. Sparks seem to have a lot of sterotypes rolling around in there heads.

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Saturday, March 18, 2006 - 10:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
oh and carmen and bruno don't????