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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:08 pm
I am just watching this now because I had to tape it. I can't get over Mrs. Rich acting as if she had been sent to some underdeveloped country where something bad was going to happen to her. Seeing her standing there talking about how this is 'their territory', you'd think she was surrounded by hostile aliens, instead of men women and children merely walking down a street. The rudest daughter back at the mansion who was protesting her innocence in the disrepecting category, was so much in denial, it was laughable. I hope she sees how she looked when the show went on the air. As usual on this show, there's hardly a dull moment.
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Stcroix
Member
03-18-2005
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 11:36 pm
Ok, don't be too hard on me... but having grown up and lived in a predomininately white area, I really don't know much about Malcolm X other than that he was apparantly a fighter for African American rights and was killed. I'm going to rent the movie and educate myself. The reason I'm saying this is that maybe the white mother is in the same situation-- although I find it extremely hard to believe that she has never heard the name. Also, to many people not familiar with Harlem it sounds like a scary place. I really enjoyed seeing what it looked like and how normal life seemed to be. I'm learning to not always trust my preconceived notions! But just think about how many movies and television programs place the junkies or hoodlums in Harlem. If you're not of the area then it makes you tend to think all Harlem must really be that way. I live in Texas and moved away one year. All the kids in my new school crowded around me asking me how many horses I had, if I had an oil well,etc. I live on the gulf coast and have to drive several miles to be anywhere near a place like that! These kids were waiting for me to pull out my cowboy hat and boots! Instead, I was just like them. I think the Harlem mom was the most grounded. I'd like to get to know her, where as the other mom made me feel uncomfortable. I think she might tend to be alittle snobbish. And after seeing her daughters in action I have to wonder what she's really like,too, when the camera's aren't on. Those girls learned to act that way somewhere!
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, December 16, 2005 - 12:52 pm
Reading these posts just brought up an old experience I had. I was from the Pacific Northwest and got my first teaching job in a low-income school in Charleston, SC (right off the strip by the Naval Base). Well, the kids and adults at the school thought we were still dealing with the Indians and their bows and arrows, riding horses or in wagons and living a "cowboy" life. It amazed me that, in the early 70's, this was still the perception. Education has got to be accurate and continual!
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Taterheadtwo
Member
09-29-2005
| Saturday, December 17, 2005 - 8:39 am
<55> each of these mom were placed outside their norms, same as if you took a cajun and a northeastern and swaped, plus most is done and encourage by the producers and cameras... the boston mom beleive me if she was truly adfraid would she have walked, are stayed at the park gate? no, so this is mostly the producers doing a slant to make it more entertaining? says alot about us...... no what i really saw, is 3 snobby girls, that have it made, and really ned to grow up, wake up. and the harlem family, the dad is placing too much time and effort for cashflow, and has totally ignored his other kids, so easy to see this, hey let the manager do most of the most for cashflow since hes getting his pay any way. and spend time with the other kids, before its too late to turn back the clock...
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Scout
Member
01-20-2005
| Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 11:52 am
I really liked last night's episode of WifeSwap. I thought that Vicky was a really amazing person and had taught her family some great values. Her children weren't swayed at all by all the material things rich mom was pushing on them. I especially liked how mature her oldest daughter was. Rich mom is pretty much out of touch with anyone other than herself. She kept criticizing Vicky's husband because he "put other people's needs in front of his own" like that was a completely foreign and ridiculous concept. Doesn't it seem ironic that the people who have the most beautiful decked out kitchens with every modern appliance, are the ones who never cook?
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Misspoufy
Member
09-30-2004
| Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:08 pm
Scout, I too liked last night's episode of WifeSwap. Rich Mom needs a BIG reality check. I thought it hilarious that under her tutelage five beautifully behaved, polite, well-mannered children became "gimme brats". That alone should have given her pause for thought. When Rich daughters were talking in their "confessionals" about not being materialistic I kept thinking about them protesting too much. But I think Vickie did them a lot of good and made them realize that they did need a mom and not another friend. I was especially impressed with both men last night. The contractor husband admitted he gave Rich wife and daughters too much and that he, and his employees, would begin giving more to charity. I was also happy to see Vickie's hubby realize that sometimes charity begins at home and that he needed to get his own home up to par. Oh, and yes, it is ironic that the ones with beautiful kitchens don't cook. What a waste.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 12:57 pm
I think that is why they are so beautiful. They are never used. I have a friend who's home is a showplace, but then again most of the rooms are never used. Mom is always out doing her thing, dad is either gone or in "his office" Kids are always gone or in their rooms. Take out is the preferred meal. Now my house... kids everywhere, girlscout stuff everywhere, dishwasher full, more waiting to go in. Always laundry. But I prefer my chaos to hers.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, December 20, 2005 - 6:29 pm
Vicky was a positive influance on the "rich" family. I thought the girls and the husband showed a lot of class and aturity. The rich mom really seemed out of place in her own family, it was odd. Rich mom brought nothing to Vicky's family..well except she did have the husband fix his house up and she tought me something....I never knew there was such a thing as doggie diapers.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 22, 2005 - 1:16 pm
Well I missed bits and pieces of the show last night, Trading Spouses. And missed how the money was divided. But I am glad that I missed the part where some couple asked Octavia what part of Africa she came from.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 2:43 am
they asked what Part of Africa her ANCESTORS came from. When she said she didnt know, they asked if she had ever tried to do her family tree/ trace her roots. Yes it was blunt but I didnt see it as any kind of a racial slur. Everyone has heard of OR seen ROOTS. Many people try to find out their ancestry. I only watched part of this show and put the rest on tape....only to have lost it somewheres LOL. Too many tapes floating around the tv area.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Tuesday, December 27, 2005 - 9:31 am
Who said it was a racial slur?
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 4:43 am
No one used those words. The Lady on the show seemed really upset by it though. But I am glad that I missed the part where some couple asked Octavia what part of Africa she came from. Why are you glad you missed it? Just curious as it was such a harmless question.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 6:16 pm
No it wasn't really a harmless question. And no I'm not going to say why I'm glad I missed it.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 6:41 pm
In a way I think I know what you were feeling Mocha, maybe not, but ill try. Im spanish,and my daughter is Mexican/spanish..and I watched an episode of House one night where they had this young mexican guy sick, thrue out the whole show I kept counting the strikes, 1st he was illegal,2nd he was poor, yard worker, taking care of his mom, into co ck-fights,his house was rat infested and it just kept going like that. I was getting madder by the second. I asked my daughter about this Octavia question and she said it would be like asking her, what pueblito in mexico she was from... Not all mexican's come from mexico, and not all black people are from a tribe in Africa.... any way, thats kinda how I took it....maybe im off base, but it was an idiotic(sp) question..
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Wednesday, December 28, 2005 - 11:17 pm
...we've got a long way to go.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 1:30 am
maybe because I am Canadian I took it as a harmless question. We dont have the discrimination problems that the USA has. I do wonder what you mean by not all black people are from a tribe in Africa...yes they are. Ancestral roots and DNA genetics can be traced to Africa. We should all be proud of our ancestry and genetics regardless of which country our family has lived in. ((I sure hope you dont mean 'black' people as in labelling people by skin colour. the Australian Aboriginals are very dark but have separate ancestry. There are also some very darkskinned spanish, greek and Italian. But that is more from the Far Eastern cultural or Moorish ancestry)) ************* I liked the Trading Spouses today. At first I was taken aback at the Musical family travelling so much. Then I realized that they did have a home and the kids did have friends. I liked that the Step-daughter was so musical and that she blossomed at the party. I theorize that her dad doesnt know what to do with her as she is almost grown up. Some guys are just 'like that'.
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Seabreeze
Member
09-05-2004
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:12 am
The last I knew,...Americans were from USA, Canadians from Canada and Mexicans from Mexico.
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Luloo
Member
11-08-2005
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 7:35 am
Asking an African American what tribe in Africa they are from is ridiculous. That would be like someone asking me (white Canadian) what part of England i'm from. I suppose I'm some sort of mix of white Europeans but I can't say what "tribe" I'm from. Unless the person is a first generation immigrant who really does belong to a "tribe" I think it's a dumb question.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:39 am
If I was Octavia and was asked that question I probably would've been a smart ass and said I'm from wherever your ancestors took mine from. Not all black people are African Americans.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:40 am
I agree the question was dumb... but I'm not understanding the offensive part. People ask me dumb stuff all the time, but I don't take it personally.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 8:57 am
Well the 'black' boards that I go to people were very offended. Very.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 9:17 am
I always thought calling black people "African American" was not very accurate. (Are, in fact, all black people from Africa?) Why then, is using the term "African American" so seemingly more politically correct? (I mean they don't call white people "European American"....)
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 9:37 am
See here.
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Legalboxer
Member
11-17-2003
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 10:03 am
thanks mocha if you want to hear a REALLY dumb question, I can't even count the number of times people have asked me to my face if i am Indian (as in born in India) simply because my name is India - and you cant find someone more whiter looking than I am - its just so ridiculous but i take it with a smile and simply say no i am not.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, December 29, 2005 - 11:42 am
Lolol legal! Btw I love your name.
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