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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:13 am
I assume they are using pop music for audience appeal. Once again the viewers are reduced to the lowest common demoninator. The judges seem fair enough. The Rumba is a seductive dance and Trista was not, plain and simple. The video clip supported her failure but did not cause it. It seems they are judging them on the effort to display the feel of the dance and the movements that are in the scope of their amature status. Kelly did a fair job but not as relaxed as Rachael and that is all they had to go on. I do not understand why Evander got anything above a 2. I guess they were being kind and gave him just enough to be at the bottom without a humiliating him too terribly. Since the audience is 50% of the tally, somehow, popularity and recognition play a huge part. As we see in American Idol every year, some voters have a favorite person and their skill plays only a small part. Not many of us have seen Rachael in anything other than a fashion magazine or with Rod years ago. I am enjoying this show. It is light and fun. It looks as though John is going to take this with Rachael and Joey competing for second.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:23 am
Yep and I voted for the underdog Kelly cause I think the judges are being *^%$#$#@ towards her and I like this couple. I also really like J Peterman and his partner and they have the best moves but I can only vote once online. Poor Evander is trying but he's just not fluid, he's more fluid in the ring and apparently in the bedroom cause he's got a million kids and a million baby's mama's.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:25 am
I agree Brad, that is what makes dancing fun, watching THEM enjoy it.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:32 am
Mocha, I was able to vote until I got tired of doing it.
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Terolyn
Member
05-06-2004
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:36 am
People have favorites????? I would have never believed it. I have to go ponder that while I stare at my picture of Anthoneeeeeeeee 
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:59 am
Lol Terolyn. You could Nt? Well let me try again.
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Danzdol
Member
04-21-2001
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 2:35 pm
my 2 cents: I was pleasently surprised at Rachel..i loved their dance the best. Second I liked the older guy's routine, forget his name. Loved his facials and the fact that he was able to let go and have fun. I was very dissappointed with Trista. As a dancer she should know that "acting" sexy or romantic with a partner is an ACT and has nothing to do with cheating..so I guess in her eyes everyone that makes a movie and films a sex scene is cheating...I could not believe she acted that way. Wether or not it influenced my opinion too, she danced very stiff and for a sexy rumba there was not enough "chili" (like they said) in it for my taste. She looked rigid and stiff. Kelly- loved her! the judges are just being nasty for tv purposes, c'mon! Evander- i think it's really sweet that he tries and still smiles. He is just to big and clumsy! Joey- impressed by him too. I can see what they are saying about having morepose and elegance but I think he can do it and will.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 6:09 pm
I explored the ABC site a little further and found the part explaining the scoring. The judges' scores are converted into rankings (6 points for 1st place, 5 for second, etc.). Then the teams get similar ranking points based on their popularity with the audience. These two numbers are added together to get the end result.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:11 pm
Ok I will hide behind my shades and stand up for Trista She is kind of a newlywed and seems very much in love. I think it was sweet that she wanted her hubby's blessing to dance sort of intimately with another man. There are worse crimes. I don't think she realized going into the show how intimate it would be (??) Everyone has different marital boundaries which is fine imho. Realistically it all too common for people who work intimately together (actors etc) to develop real life feelings and romances. I think it was sweet and appropriate that Trista cared more about her husband's feelings and marriage than the competition. And imho she ended up performing fine with Ryan's blessing but people were prejudiced already. I know many here see it totally different but that's my
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 11:55 pm
I liked Trista too, & was sorry to see her go. I think the one girl, who was wearing the pole dancing/stripper outfit should have been sent home. It's ballroom dancing, not Soho!
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 1:46 am
I was very impressed with Joey McIntyres performances. I think he and John O'Hurley are the two best, by far. The men have it very easy, considering most of us are drawn to watching the woman naturally, and they can get away with more. Anyone else think John and Charlotte are also practicing the horitontal mambo on the side??? Mind you, they're adorable, but goodness, are they joined at the hip!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 2:50 am
I don't think the men have it easy at all. They have to lead, and as we saw with Evander that can be disastrous since the pressure's on them to remember which step comes next. John and Joey made it look easy, but the quick step is not a dance for beginners. Unlike the other dances, there was no way to fake it with this one. The women have it easier because apparently as long as they dance pretty and do a lot of splits it doesn't matter if they don't even display a basic step. I really don't think the judges were prejudiced about Trista this time. With or without that video clip beforehand she really did fail to show any connection with her partner, and almost seemed repelled by him. She chose to keep her eyes on the audience and smile rather than locking eyes with her partner. I think even just a little eye contact would've made all the difference in the judges marks, but she would've been gone anyway simply because the audience votes weren't behind her.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 7:55 am
Fabnsab In an earlier post I mentioned that John's partner looked like she was engaged in foreplay, for cryin out loud. It appears that he is a bit uncomfortable with it if you focus only on him. He does what he can not to play into her and still remain connected. He was recently married in 2004 and mentioned on this show that he and his wife had talked about taking ballroom dancing together. Clearly this fact dissapoints his partner!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 2:02 pm
Re: Trista. Oh puhleeze. You had a bazillion cameras filming your every move (and most likely, most of your practice sessions). How friggin' "intimate" could you get with all those eyes on you? I agreed with the judges, and I don't think that little clip had much to do with it. She was stiff and seemed to want to only pose. And she's really not a gracious (or pretty) loser. I also think Curly got it right... Trista didn't connect with her partner. Granted, he's a boor (and so egotistical!). But the rhumba should show the interplay between the dancers, and when you are concentrating on where the cameras and audience are, you aren't looking at your partner. I thought Kelly did a lot better than the judges said, but I did see their point. There was a lot of sex, and not a whole lotta dance, in their routine. O'Hurley, I think, has it in the bag. But I think Rachel will give him a run for his money. Both of them seem to be able to really dance, and seem to be having fun while doing so. Joey seemed to do well, and I enjoy watching him, but I don't feel the passion that I do when I watch the other two. Poor Evander. I have to give him props, though... that quick step could not have been easy for him. And being a big man makes that dance a lot more difficult (and also makes it look like it's more difficult). At this point, I think the rankings have been spot on. Trista needed to go. And O'Hurley is and has been the best. Should be interesting to see next week's ep, and the dance choices. BTW, there are many basic steps that are repeated in most dances (just at a different tempo). So if they spent 5 weeks rehearsing, they spent a lot of time on the basics, including position and poses. So the steps that they need to learn each week are not that many, as they've already learned much of the basics (for example, some of the steps in the quick step were just an uptempo grapevine), and a couple of the pairs did a bit of a jitterbug, too.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 8:29 pm
Fruitbat, I am glad I am not the only one with a dirty mind! I am a touch disappointed to know he is married though. My friend and I had this whole romantic scenario about them...lol Well, Joey's partner looks half in love with him and he doesn't seem to notice her at all and Evander looks at his partner like she is a t-bone steak! Trista never stopped being a cheerleader. That plastered on smile was the death of her. I thought her moves were good though. I told my friend that she would be the first voted off because I think america is sick of these reality show stars 15 minutes lasting too long. ps, what I wouldnt give to have Rachels legs!!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, June 10, 2005 - 10:06 pm
I just love Evander. He's so big and doesn't seem to have any rhthym, but he's in there, working and really moving it and looking like he's having a good time.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 4:53 am
It is time for Evander to go back to hitting people. 
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 8:01 am
yeh I also noticed John's partner kissing and pawing all over him, and those whipped glances lol she is in her own a fantasyland. and the actor that he is, he handles it like a pro dirty thoughts.. i loved the sexiness of Kellys routine. her partner is my fave of the pros to watch, Im so glad they didnt get booted. ITA Rachel's legs are to die for.. and Kelly's whole body...!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 12:10 pm
ITA about Rachel!! I was impressed with the moves she could do since she isnt really a dancer I just love this show and I am glad it is a hit, we will get another season for sure!!
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 2:34 pm
Although I really didn't like Kelly's partner last week, he seemed better this week and I voted for them BOTH weeks, because I think the judges were far too harsh. There rumba was so smoking, I think I was breathing hard when they got done dancing. 
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Jennabeesmommy
Member
06-06-2004
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 9:47 pm
Yeah, I thought the rumba was supposed to be sexy, so I don't get why the judges were so hard on Kelly for the sexiness of the routine.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Saturday, June 11, 2005 - 11:34 pm
I don't think the judges complained about the sexiness. That was their only compliment. They complained about the dance itself. I didn't understand why they called it "brittle," since I thought if anything she was a little too loose in the spine. For me Latin dance should be all about the hips while the upper body stays more controlled, whereas Kelly almost seemed to be belly dancing. But what do I know? A lot of the things that bother me are more the fault of the choreographers rather than the competing celebrities anyway. I figure all those GH fanatics will keep her in the competition regardless, so I gave my vote to John this time.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 9:40 am
I thought Kelly's dance was sexy but they didn't do much dancing. I agree with the judges on that. There was barely any footwork at all.
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 6:55 pm
Evander may not be the best dancer, but he sure has the most cool. I love the way he looks into the camera and sort of lifts one eyebrow. Hope John wins, I like him and he is a smooth, classy dancer. However, he needs to tell Charlotta to back off, she is practically humping him on camera.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Monday, June 13, 2005 - 1:15 pm
Although I don't think Trista and her partner were the worst dancers I did think her facial expressions were wooden in the rhumba. She just couldn't relax and get "into" the dance. Too bad because she actually wasn't a bad dancer. Evander is overrated IMO...I thought the judges gave him a free pass the first week. His posture and his position are poor, not to mention that he just can't move all that well (at least not on the dance floor). Do the women have it easier than the men? Seems to me that they have to do a lot more of the moves on the floor. Just my opinion though.
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