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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
during the seminar it looked like Maucus was sitting up on stage playing with a rubic cube paying no attention. I can't understand how this guy even made it on the show

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I thought he was playing with a yo-yo. And he looked at his watch a few times. Either way, I'm surprised no one called him on it.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I think Carolyn noticed it... and I think that's why she kept asking him what his contribution to the task was.

She may have called him on the yo yo and it was edited it out... I can't imagine her NOT saying anything about the yoyo.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 10:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Madelane a private message Print Post    
I have grown to love and anticipate the way Trump says, "Hello" when he enters the boardroom. It's very Seinfeldian. And then! Last night when he looked at Carolyn and said "whoa whoa whoa," I died laughing. It was the way he said it.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 10:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Did anyone melt when Adam addressed Carolyn by her Surname. None of the contestants do that, and one season someone was scolded for it, so it was nice to see someone say "Ms. Kepcher". Very polite.

Madelane - I laughed at the whoa part too!! Hilarious!!

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Madelane - LOL! I LOVE his hello! It's sort of, "Heh-lew" . I wonder if that is his laid-back, non-stressed, playful DT voice. I can't imagine him using that same inflection when he meets a group for some heavy wheelin' and dealin'!

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dalm_dad a private message Print Post    
I think the whole boardroom was very surreal last night.

The questioning and lecturing on sex...
The "shock" of Clay's being gay.

Pure entertainment value. If any real boss asked a potential new employee if he had ever had sex, the lawsuits would flow.

Dalm.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I also laughed when Trump compared sexuality to menu choices. "That's why there are menus in restaurants".

I'm not sure if he was trying to sound supportive, or if the gay community will cringe at his implication that sexuality is a matter of "choice".

I still laughed though.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Oh, I forgot to say....

I would feel more offended if someone said "Jew" instead of Jewish boy. Which is what I am sure Clay said. Adam turned it into "Jew" which I feel is more of a pejorative than a descriptive word.

Clay said something like "tight Jewish kid."

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dalm_dad a private message Print Post    
As a Jew and a Jew raised in a mixed area, I thought Adam over-reacted, but different people have different tolerance levels. It would have been different if it was said in a much more firm, serious manner, and maybe in the boardroom.

Since George did not seem to like it much either, I may be somewhat over tolerant.

Dalm.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 12:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
I truly think that Adam's reaction was from an accumulation of what he perceived to be uncomfortable or compromising situations. He was not comfortable with the subject matter of the class nor with the execution of the teaching and his role in it. That would put him on edge and not able to sift out the nuances of what Clay was saying or doing. I think he got a little too bogged down with it but he has a right to his opinion and emotion.

What is unfortunate is that Clay does not seem to understand how out of line he was, especially in his "ass" comments. I don't think any of the team members were able to relate to the audience nor did they have their undivided attention...even though the subject was "sex". Just goes to show...gotta have quality to win.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 12:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Dalm I don't think you are over tolerant. Remember George is a bit older, he was most likely subjected to antisemitism at a time when it was pretty much accepted. So one could expect his tolerance to be closer to zero.

Even Adam realized that Clay's comment came from his lack of class more than anti-semitic feelings.

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 1:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
I didnt' see the show, but I can't believe they were stupid enough to let someone take the lead on a sex talk that doesn't know anything about the subject. Did anyone on that team have brains last night??

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 1:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Auntiemike a private message Print Post    
Survivoraddict: given the result of their class I would say "NO", noone seemed to have brains last night!

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 2:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Anybody else recall Markus' last words? "I have no clue" Say what you will about the man but he knows himself! :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 4:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
His last words had about 100 uh and about 55 ums

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Regarding Markus and his yo-yo: If you rewatch that part, you'll notice that he's seated on the leather couch when he's playing and looking at his watch and you hear Alla talking to the audience (trick editing?). When the camera pulls back on the whole group you see that Markus is sitting up high in a chair next to that sofa and holding papers as she speaks. I suspect the shot of him with the yo-yo was taken before the class started, and that's why he was looking at his watch. More creative editing.

After reviewing what Adam said and what Clay said, I can understand why Adam and any other Jewish person in the audience would be offended. Adam said twice "I'm a nice, Jewish boy from Atlanta." Clay called him a "shy, tight, Jewish boy." Though Adam was saying he wants to be comfortable with someone before he spends a lot of money on them, that doesn't mean he's tight. Even if Clay hadn't used that word, it was still an inappropriate joke. Adam had said he was a nice, Jewish boy when explaining his comfort level with sex talk. Clay used it to make a wisecrack about the reason Adam wouldn't spend money on a date. Since there is an age-old stereotype out there of Jewish people being cheap, Clay making that joke was a bigger deal than he wanted to admit.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 6:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyjaxmom a private message Print Post    
Curlq, as DH and I agreed last night, Clay might have gotten a "pass" on the comment had he and Adam been really good friends and the comment made in a private setting. But to make a comment like that in a very public setting was just terribly insensitive and inappropriate. It made everyone (including the people watching it on TV) very uncomfortable. Many of Clay's remarks were very inappropriate, but then so was the whole subject matter. "Sex in the Office"??? Please!!!

Regarding DT's comment, "That's why restaurants have menus," though awkward, I think he meant to say that sexual preferences and finding someone attractive are a matter of taste, not choice--but I can see where it could be interpreted that way, too.

How did Markus ever talk his way through the screening process for this show????

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
ALL FIRED UP: Mark (aka Markus) Garrison, who was booted off The Apprentice last night, isn't done with the Donald. Rankled by what he calls "lazy, hugely dishonest editing" that painted him as "Markus, the motormouth doofus," the 41-year-old inventor tells TVGuide.com, "I'm issuing a public challenge to Trump to have a debate — anywhere, anytime and on any subject, for five minutes, 10 minutes, on Dr. Phil, Oprah, whatever. I'll bury the guy." Or at least talk him into submission.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Entertainment/default.htm?rmDate=11042005

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Oh that guy is a piece of work!

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I so desparately wanted to transcribe Markus's cab ride comments to read to my students in speech class. Talk about NOT focusing! Spit it out, man, spit it out!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
LOL at the comments here. I forgot about DT babbling on about Menu choices !!

ah.....Yeah?

What i dont understand is why DT seemed so taken aback by Clay being gay and how DT didnt know. What was he expecting? Clay to wear a pink suit? a pink tie? ((oh wait, DT usually wears a pink tie hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm))

To me that is the worst kind of sexism...when people act like 'they should have known' just by talking or looking at someone. I remember reading somewhere that no one would expect to have to explain that they are heterosexual when going for a job interview....so why would someone choose to 'label' themselves as gay when it should make no difference for a job?

I dont know. This episode was questionable all around. At least marcus gave us all a great laugh ! How can he say that editing made him seem incoherent? His teammates were begging him to just SPIT IT OUT! and marcus was unable to be coherent.

I'd love to see a Debate LOL

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
By the way, I also am guilty of making comments about Clay acting like a petulant child. Wonder if we (or his teammates) would be saying stuff like that if he was a tall man?

I used to work with a short doctor who was treated horribly by the nurses. Can you believe that comments were made that he needed to be 'put over someone's knee and given a spanking'?? There was no respect due DIRECTLY to his height. The young man was a great doctor but soft spoken and firm. The nurses hated that he wouldnt kowtow to them.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 1:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
No Sunshyne, the short guy was on the other team. Clay is way taller than the short guy.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Saturday, November 05, 2005 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    

quote:

I'd love to see a Debate LOL


Sunshyne, debate with one side being Marcus -- that would be hysterical!!!