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Jandy
Member
07-08-2005
| Monday, December 12, 2005 - 8:11 am
Is Jim the most annoying person you've ever seen? i can't imagine working with him, much less being under his management in a creative environment.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Monday, December 12, 2005 - 11:59 am
I love Jim. I want him to win. Jim is only annoying if you let him annoy you. He is DOING it specifically to throw people off their game. He wouldn't be that unprofessional in real life. Keep in mind this is a competition. He has to knock their game down any way he can.
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:36 pm
Yes, but in business, "real life" is a competition also and I bet he WOULD do a lot of the same things - just not to his boss.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 9:10 am
Jim will not win. That dinner he had with the top executives of Martha Stewart OmniMedia (a reward) was another part of the job interview process. And all that was shown (can we blame the editing) was how he bragged about the show being a "game" and how he was good at the manipulation required for him to "win" this game. Stupid, stupid, stupid. Not something you brag about to the people who may be hiring you. 'squeek'
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 11:33 am
Charles' comment telegraphed that Dawna was the likely winner, if we are to believe that was unintentional. I think we were set up and Bethany will be the final choice. She is creative and in an area Martha has no corner, health food. I would like to think Martha was misquoted in Business Week and she does think both Bethany and Dawna have something to offer. I don't think so. She doesn't really like any of her choices so it matters little, to her, who gets the title of employee. It will be a production choice. They wouldnt choose Jim, would they? This is a one shot deal, finish with a bang?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:00 pm
Well, Martha's whole story is about overcoming odds, and not being the WEAK person..... In this process, Jim has been the strongest competitor, and he definitely overcame the odds, considering all of his competitors didn't like him. If there really IS some Trump-copying going on....maybe we will get to meet Jim's wonderful wife, and <insert Awwwwwwwww here> his newborn baby daughter, that will be just adorable. We will be treated to how great Jim is with his family, we will connect to a softer side of Jim, we will even see tears from this ultra competitive man, the moment he sees his wife and child (unlike the rather chilly reception Rebecca gave her boyfriend on Trump's show). All of this sets us up to see Jim as a really likeable guy, and the best choice at the end. A girl can dream, can't she?
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 1:38 pm
I agree Jim made a huge error in that 'game talk' stuff. And frankly someone who talks like that should not win, because while he is 100% correct that it is a 'game' between contestants, it is definitely not a game for the employers.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:00 pm
T minus 13 minutes 
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:26 pm
Interviews. Jim seemed slightly nervous. Dawna & Betheny waited 3 hours before a sleepy-eyed Jim told them no one's coming back.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:33 pm
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Jim's kaput Yawna & Betheny are the final 2 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:33 pm
- - - - - - - - - - - - Jim is gone. Kinda felt sorry for him.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:38 pm
Loose lips sink ships.
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:53 pm
I think neither finalist fits in.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 7:58 pm
I agree. I really don't like Dawna. I like Bethenny better, but not by a whole bunch. Amanda is sucking bad!!!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:04 pm
I feel sorry for Martha having to hire either of these females ... sigh ...
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:13 pm
I literally lol at the noose 
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 14, 2005 - 8:44 pm
At least Jim is still entertaining us! 
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 6:24 am
Most arrows are pointing to Bethany at this point so does that mean Dawna wins this? The editing on all of these shows is painfully predictable. The scene at Liz Claiborne was hysterical. It is a boring and uninspiring line of clothing. I felt their pain as they tried to dress the models for an exciting runway presentation. If the execs knew how to put those droll duds together they should have done it. Who else would know? It should be their job anyway. Would Gucci have another decide how to present his creations? Nope. I don't have a clear idea of what Bethany is supposed to create other than a small circus of some kind for something. She is doomed unless Jim can settle her female team member. I think this woman's goal is sabotage.
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 7:45 am
If those clothes are boring, it's the fault of the clothing designers, not the organizers of the show! How strange. I think these tasks are too much for these two. Trump tasks are never this hard!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 8:26 am
I agree that the Liz Claiborne thing is bizarre. What designer would let a bunch of clueless outsiders decide what would be shown and how it would be accessorised? These tasks are just so bogus. Who'd let a bunch of unknown people slap together a fashion show and a circus fund-raiser in a few days? They've either got backup plans of it's all make-believe. My guess is that these "do's" are being put on for a private audience and no one really cares how well they do.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:00 am
I gave up watching after they started working on their charity shows. Actually, I lost interest ages ago, but since nothing else was on, I was curious... Jim really dug his own grave, didn't he? Aside from the fact that most of the time I had no clue what he was saying either, he really didn't seem like he took things seriously. And at that point, during the actual interview process, I think you might want to be a bit more serious. I wonder if Martha will go creative or business. I really wasn't much impressed with either finalist last night. Especially Bethany and the way she just walked right over to her private car, and didn't really even acknowledge her teammates. Of course, she readily admitted she had no friends, so that makes sense. But if it were me? I'd be kissing their butts something fierce so that they'd work their own butts off to help me win! I think what we don't see is how much help they really have, behind the scenes. I think there really is someone following behind, picking up pieces to make sure the event actually runs smoothly. There is no way Martha (or Trump) would allow such a high profile event to fail because of the incompetence of a finalist or team.
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:30 am
It's hard to know. I do find it hard to believe they are out there on their own, but who knows? My guess would be that the TV show is paying for these events, in order to get these sponsors and so forth to agree to have these contestants take charge (without telling the contestants).
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Survivoraddict
Member
09-02-2005
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 9:58 am
So was part of Bethany's job to orginize an auction? I think she totally lost track of her task last night, and I was cringing for her when she got chewed out. I just don't like Dawna. Dawna seems to make the whole show fall flat.
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:13 am
I would think if Bethany wins the show has a stink of corruption. There will be those that argue both for and against her prior relationship with Charles or his son (whatever). That the relationship either did or did not have an effect on the outcome. From a purity standpoint and considering that I am sure there were tons of other qualified folks, why would Martha risk having this potential stink about her show and/or whether or not it was fixed. If Martha was as smart as she thinks, she or the producers would have dropped Bethany the minute the fact came out and before the show was released to TV and begin refilming. In any event, I cannot imagine that the application did not have a standard question about relationships with MSO. It is all a stinker...as was this show. Dalm.
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Thursday, December 15, 2005 - 10:56 am
Jim was on the Today Show this morning. He has not lost his self-confidence. Katie leaned towards him and he thought he was going to get a hug but Katie pushed him away and said "you're fired". Mentioned that he and a few of the other contestants have started a business together. I couldn't catch the details. He will be on the Martha show tomorrow, with his wife and baby.
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