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Sasha
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07-22-2005

Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - 7:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sasha a private message Print Post    
Gosh, I thought Pete and his wife Pam truly benefited from this experience. They look great. What a dramatic wonderful change. I am so happy for them both and I hope they have children as they hope.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, October 28, 2005 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Whoami a private message Print Post    
I'm very annoyed at how they advertised this episode with the dramatic "a tragedy strikes the team" and showing a bunch of people crying and hugging each other. Obviously they wanted us to think that one of the contestants had a heart attack.

I think it was a really cheap shot to use Matt's personal tragedy to lure in the viewers to this week's show. From what I can remember, the crying/hugging scenes didn't even have anything to do with when Matt heard about his uncle. There was a supportive hug or two here and there, but not on the scale the promos showed.

I've come to expect none of these promos to be anything at all. The "biggest twist ever" and "you won't believe what happens next" crap never lives up to the misleading stuff the promos suggest. Personally, I think its false advertising.

I do like how they dedicated the show to his uncle at the end. But just feel it was pretty low of them to use his death as an advertising gimmick.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Tonight's episode was kind of boring.

Mark looked good during his update.

Man, the casting people on this show hit gold when they came across Matt. When he's not scowling, he's crying. Talk about intense.

Texasdeb
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05-23-2003

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texasdeb a private message Print Post    
yep - Matt has grown on me & I want him to win the $250g's. The women just aren't loosing the weight like some of the men. Makes me wander if the women are closet diet cheaters or something. Go Matt!

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Last week in the previews it said that one of the favorites would be going last night...Mark was no favorite of mine. He was cheif instigator of Men vs. Women and he reluctantly gave props to the ladies when they deserved. He was first to leave the room when they came in and all around had a bad attitude towards the women.

Matt's been my horse since the beginning! I think he cries too much and a little melodramatic, but over all he's a great guy.

Jewels
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09-23-2000

Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jewels a private message Print Post    
I didn't watch much of this show last season, did they always show the "before" pictures before the person steps on the scale. I like that, the differences are amazing. I think Seth looks the most different.

One thing that bugs me when I watch this is these people have lost a huge amount of weight, but their clothes don't hang off of them, they fit normally. Are they out shopping or being supplied with new clothes? If you haven't noticed it watch them at one of the vote outs, it bothers me for some reason.

It seems like everyone is really dedicated to this whole process and the majority of the people who have left already have lost more weight. I don't remember that from last time. I was amazed at Pete last week. Wow.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 12:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I really dislike matt's personality as it is shown on the show.

He seems really aggressive and driven but showed himself as cruel? disrespectful to the women in more than one episode.

Matt's wildeyed scowl and melodramatics during a couple of comps and weighins bothers me. It is like he is trying to use the pity card to keep himself in the game.

I hated the overdone blubbering when his team voted Mark out. It really didnt seem legit to me. Personally I feel he is trying to make everyone think that HE Needs to be there more than others. Either that or Matt is truly battling serious depression.

I must question someone's commitment when they happily get up in the middle of the night to secretly 'gork out' on food then freak out when it is proven that they didnt lose weight that week. Big surprise Matt!! I know we saw him tell Jillian but I'd love to know if his teammates knew why he didnt lose weight.

Yeah, I know that was a couple of episodes ago but it shows Matt's mindset. I truly dont believe that the others would be quite so understanding if they knew about his middle of the night bingeing. Each temptation Comp the teams do NOT relent and take the bait...so I know that the others would not appreciate Matt's duplicity.

Frankly, I theorize he will make final three. He is a hard worker infront of the others and has made it very clear he Needs to stay there (ie/ no family to go back to etc)

Just my opinion.

OH final thought, Wow when pete chose Seth and Suzy as a team I thought YIKES they will be unbeatable for comps. both are smaller and more athletic than the other teams. Now they have won immunity TWICE! ...I expect them to be able to win almost every immunity due to ability to move easier than the others.

Not1worry
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07-30-2002

Thursday, November 03, 2005 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Not1worry a private message Print Post    
Jewels, I thought that about the clothes too. In fact, one of the ladies sat down on a couch and her clothes were too tight! Everything should be falling off of them by now. They really need the What Not to Wear crew in there now to help them out.

I don't like Matt. He cries too much. I'm an emotional person and I don't cry like that. It speaks of a lack of personal control that probably contributed to his weight problem. I'm thinking he needs some therapy along with exercise. He does not seem like he will be able to maintain his weight loss when he leaves.

Someone posted recent pics of Dr. Jeff over at Television Without Pity and he looks great too! I have no idea if he lost it all on the show, or once he left, but it's amazing.

It still blows my mind that some of these guys can lose 17 lbs. in one week!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 1:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
What I dont understand is why we arent seeing majorly saggy skin. When you loose weight superfast, like these people, the skin cannot possibly keep up. even young people will end up needing surgery to tighten up their skin (faces and body)

Pete lost well over a hundred lbs. according to his pics on the tv episode and he doesnt have a sagging face. I dont understand. It just doesnt seem possible.

Holly
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06-19-2005

Friday, November 04, 2005 - 6:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
What I don't understand is how these severely overweight people, who can barely walk up a flight of stairs, can immediately do rigorous workouts for hours on end every day and not sustain injuries. How can you go from being an obese couch potato to spinning on bikes for a solid hour or doing a hundred sit-ups/push-ups without pulling muscles or doing some damage. I just don't get it. (A couple of years ago I was about 115-120 lbs, walked between 2-4 miles a day and joined a jazzercise class. I always seemed to have injured muscles which caused me to have to quit walking for days and missing classes.) I'm truly confused as to how this is possible for people so overweight and out of shape.

ETA: Pete and the Doc look really super though and I'm glad to see how successful they were.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I love that ultimate jump rope. :-)

Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 9:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
Holly, I think that's why tonight, Dr. Jeff elected not to take his shirt off when he weighted. I think he may be self-conscience about his sagging skin.

What was Matt thinking!?!?! What an idiot! He deserves to be voted out next week for his stupid decision to lay back and get fat! It kinda shows just where he is headed once the show is over. Now he has to lose double the weight.

Sad to see Shannon go, I really liked her. She looked really good in her post show interview.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
Same ole same ole. Matt likes to cheat with food during the night...now he wins immunity so decides to celebrate with Food.

I hope he's next to go. It is a sad day when someone like Shannon goes who worked so hard.

TOnight was the first time I have felt that the scales may be wrong or the weight shown is 'for good tv'. Suzy did not look 170lbs, in my opinion. I figure that the producers are starting to realize that they had set up the women to be eliminated and needed to add a few lbs lost to a girl to try to make it look less obvious. Suzy looks bigger than me at 190lbs. I just dont believe it.

Shannon looked great at 170lbs in her post show pics...Suzy did not look 170lbs during the weighin.

The only way this show could be credible, in my opinion, is if they would do measurements as well as weight. Stomach, bicepts, thighs, hips.

I'm just glad we didnt have to sit thru Matt's blubbering as he votes someone OUT again. He voted out his old partner. How coldhearted! so much for loyalty.
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Anyone else notice how the trainers arent training everyone equally anymore?? Jillian has made it very clear that she is only working for her Red Team members. I was shocked.

But not as shocked as Shannon when she lets Bob know that she has injured herself and he belittles her instead of showing concern.

Amazing!!

When you are heavy it is very easy to tear a ligament. I felt bad for shannon having to stand up to Bob.

Jami
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10-08-2003

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 5:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jami a private message Print Post    
I don't think Matt was "celebrating with food", although I am sure he was enjoying it. It seemed to be his stragedy,,,next week at the weigh all that counts is what he loses this week. So if he works hard it chould be very easy to lose that 12 pounds and probably more which will put him over the yellow line. In one way it seems pretty smart,,,not that I would have encouraged him.

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Jami - I think that is exactly what he is doing. Matt even talked about putting on and taking off weight for wrestling. Remember, he was a successful college wrestler. Weight is a MAJOR part of their lives - must be in a very narrow weight range for their matches. Unfortunately, they can easily learn very, very bad food "relationships". They learn to manipulate their bodies with calories, binging, excessive exercise, etc. I just hope he didn't pack on too much, but, remember, it's all about percentage lost in the ONE WEEK!! (Which, by the way, I think stinks - why not reward the ACTUAL biggest loser over all - isn't that the name of the game??)

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
The ultimate winner at the end is the one who has lost the most OVERALL.

But to get there you have to survive the weekly eliminations.

Matt's manipulation shows he is there for the money, not for the new lifestyle.

Yup. Pretty smart (agree with above, he's a wrestler, he knows about water weight) - put on some weight when you are immune and next week you compare your weight loss from last night's weight (the extra 12 lbs were mostly water - no way he would have eaten that many calories to put back on fat).



Taterheadtwo
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09-29-2005

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 1:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taterheadtwo a private message Print Post    
ok make a guess here, but im gonna say dr jeff will win, be the biggest losser, are plan b,lol if he has a bad week and goes home, if they do like they did lasr season have a second choice form the ones sent home to recieve a cash bonis for being the second biggest loser i still think it could be dr jeff, he knows now if he puts in say 2 hours a day he can still keep losing the weight till he gets down where he can more healthly , do cardio and such too tone, i also hope some kind of sponsers will step forth and sponser all the people who really treid to lose the max weight, and now will have saggy skin, maybe they will sponser , step up and give them some comestic sugery...
i wish all the networks would do something like this, bigg weight lost show, show like the swan, boot camp, etc.. i think most would watch, since most of the shows i see now on prime time are,mayeb im too old and these shows now are for say the 20 yaers olds, because i think they are lame, and usually turn the channel before most shows are have over ....

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 5:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
I think the doctor's got a great shot at winning. Then again, the final winner will be the one who did the most work once they went back home to wait for the live finale. They didn't dunk them in water this season, did they? I remember last year they dunked them at the beginning and again at the final weigh-ins to determine the percentage of fat lost and then added that to the percentage of total weight lost to decide the winner.

I kind of understand Matt's strategy, and that he knew it was a big gamble, but I think in the long run it will bite him in the butt (if Jillian doesn't do it first). He not only gave up a full week's time to lose more weight, but actually went backward at least another week on top of that. I don't think he had planned to gain quite so much weight. Plus, the others probably lost some respect for him and may keep that in mind if he doesn't win immunity next week.

I think it might make a difference how tall a person is when considering how heavy they look. If Suzy is shorter or has smaller bones, she would look heavier at 170 than someone else would. I know I have a small frame and I'm only 5'4" (as is Suzy), so every pound over 110 is more noticeable on me than on most people. I don't think they can legally mess with the numbers since this is pretty much a game show.

They tried to say early this season that they had shown that men don't lose weight faster than women, but I think with a very few exceptions they've shown the opposite is true. Even when they changed it to percentage instead of pounds, the women have still struggled to keep up. Hopefully if there's a third season they'll have separate prizes for the biggest female loser and the biggest male loser.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 2:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
I'm 5'2 and didnt look like Suzy when I was 170. Maybe she is really small boned or something.

Oh...if I recall correctly they did do the floating in water measurement at the first weighin.

Yeah, I think that this show has proved that women dont stand a chance against the guys. I did some math breakdowns a while back which showed how the women couldnt possibly win this based on Total weight loss.

The final measurement involving Fat % is where the women really miss out. Men have a much lower fat content threshold. women can be as high as 20% normally if I recall correctly.

Wallflower
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08-26-2004

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wallflower a private message Print Post    
Sunshyne, ITA that Shannon looked to be way more than 170.

Max
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08-12-2000

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
It's hard to tell without knowing how tall they are. I'm 5'10" and my goal weight is 170. I'd be pretty darned thin at that weight! I'm betting that these gals are nowhere near as tall as I am, so that makes a big difference. :-)

Way2prissy
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07-21-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Way2prissy a private message Print Post    
Sorry, I can't keep my mouth shut anymore....

As an overweight person, I find some of these general comments about overweight people offensive. I'm sure it's not intentional, but you should really think about what you're saying about these contestants. They get weighed in front of millions of people every week--I don't know too many "ideal weight" people who would be willing to do that.

If you read the disclaimer at the end of the show it clearly says that workouts are tailored to suit each individual. Not all overweight/obese people are couch potatoes. Some of us have active lifestyles and CAN do cardio for over an hour without collapsing and sweating buckets. Everyone gains weight for different reasons and you shouldn't presume to know their backstory; it's really none of our business. I watch the show for inspiration and entertainment...not to judge any of them.

I think all of the contestants look great and should be commended for the courage to go through this struggle publicly. I cried with Suzy when she hit 170 pounds. That was a HUGE deal for her--a weight she hadn't been since 9th grade!!!! But some of you are saying she looked heavier than 170 pounds??? It's television! Put yourself on camera and tell us if you look your actual weight on a television screen.

As far as Matt being emotional...I don't even live in that house and I cry during every episode. I would be a basket case if I lived there!

I hope I didn't offend anyone...

Taterheadtwo
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09-29-2005

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Taterheadtwo a private message Print Post    
i agree i really think the remaining contenstants are emotional, who wouldnt, they have lost more weight then they could of ever dreamed, and even if they say they dont like each other are evene one of the others, i dont by, i bet there in awe of whats each has been able to do, and no i dont think they are on a threadmill for a hour at a time, but say 10 minutes then go do some stenght training, then streching, something for the hour are more they are at the gym, i think most are doing the 2 hours a day one in the morning and one in the evening, something to get the heat rate up to the active zone , but not to what they will get ravenous hunger, and they have people there and each other to encourage them form not cheating on their workout sechdules and eating.. and i bet they are more than willing to give 100 percent each and every day, seeing they can lose so much weight, i am blown away for what this show has shown can be done, i wish there were alot more like it, maybe change america form a senderatary nation to one that goes out, sees the neighborhood, maybe even help a neighbor than just ploiping infront of the tv as much as we do....

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Curlyq a private message Print Post    
Way2prissy, I know it's no consolation, but the picking apart and judging of reality show contestants by some viewers seems inevitable no matter what the show is about or what the contestants look like. That's why you'll never see me applying for one.

Max, Shannon is 5'3", Suzy is 5'4", and Andrea is 5'5". I really don't think you can tell a person's weight just by looking at them. The other day Kirstie Alley told Oprah that her peak weight was 219, and I would've guessed it was much higher by the pictures they were showing. You just never know.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puzzled a private message Print Post    
I have a friend who's the same height I am. Even when she weighs 30 pounds more than I do, she is smaller. Go figure.