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Colordeagua
Member
10-25-2003
| Monday, February 06, 2006 - 9:44 pm
The cut was on Bruce's face. An excuse for more plastic surgery? Get rid of the scar, then might as well . . . while you're at it.
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Sherbabe
Member
07-28-2002
| Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:05 pm
Not defending Dave, but, skating on hockey skates is totally different than skating of figure skates. It would be a harder transition to do that than to have to start on figure skates as a beginner.(Bruce)
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, February 06, 2006 - 10:29 pm
Bruce's face looked bad, black and blue and stitches. Kristy rocked! That old fart judge needs to go, even my 10 yr old goes ZZZZZZZZZZ when he starts to talk LOL
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 7:58 am
I was thinking about Dave and Nancy's skating and finally managed to put a finger on what bothered me most... they always seemed to have a "gimmick" when they skated. And it seemed to me that the gimmick was sort of intended to hide the fact that there really wasn't much skating that they did. I think that was shown last night... without a gimmick they really didn't look like they were pairs skaters. And yes, hockey skating is entirely different than ice skating. But you missed my point... the fact that he already knew HOW to move on the ice, and that he was comfortable on the ice... HUGE advantage. The fear factor of learning how to skate, do crossovers, and so on... and the fear of falling. Not so much of an issue with a hockey player (although yeah, he had trepidation about jumping). Still, Dave knows how to skate. The rest is learning new moves. I think some, like Bruce, really had a disadvantage in that.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 8:29 am
I just want to know how that old guy gave Tai/Bruce better technical scores than Jillian and her partner even when there was such an obvious mistake in Tai's routine (the leaving the ice).
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 9:13 am
That was hilarious when he skated Tai right off the ice. It wouldn’t have been if she had hurt herself, but her recovery was so smooth it was great.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:20 am
Tai's recovery -- and even Bruce's -- was pretty impressive. It almost (!!) looked like it was meant to be. Bruce did look a lot more comfortable on the ice this time. But his poor knees. His knees have got to be giving him fits!
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 1:42 pm
Ladytex, I think they are trying to keep all the scores closer than they should really be. It seems obvious to a lot of people who should win, or at least, which two it should be between.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 4:39 pm
Jimmer said that earlier, so, like, I'm like dying of curiosity here... Darrel, who do YOU think the F2 should be? Jimmer? What about you? Anyone else? I've not been paying a whole lotta attention. I personally love Tai, so am hoping she ends up in F2. I'm not sure about the others left... which one should end up in F2. (I'm thinking Jillian maybe?)
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 8:46 pm
Last night's scoring seemed like they took the marks they would normally give them and just added a point. The routines certainly didn't look like they rated an extra point, so they must've told them beforehand to bump it up a notch to suggest great progress has been made. I actually agreed with Nicks about Jillian's routine. It seemed much more elementary than anything they'd ever done before. I was bored with it, especially after seeing Eisler & Swanson. I wonder if they peaked in episode 1, or if they were just being cautious because of her injury. Dorothy Hamill is way too generous in her scoring. Bruce and Tai are my favorites because they embody the story I want to see: the beginner skater who learns and progresses from week to week with a great attitude while also enjoying the experience. I like Lloyd and Kristy's skating, but she never seems to be having fun, especially in their practice clips. Jillian...well...not to be mean, but I just don't care how well she does because she was already on a different level to begin with.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 9:31 pm
Curly, I TA!!! I think Kristy was more into this and having fun this wk though
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:09 pm
I think Kristy & Jillian and their partners will be the final two. Both couples are skating at a different level than Bruce and Tai. I think it was harder for the male skaters, esp. Bruce since he never skated before, but they have to do the holds and stay on their feet, etc., where the females get lifted.
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 10:36 pm
Being a 50 year old with bad knees (bit no surgeries yet) I can tell you Bruce is at a big disadvantage. The older guy mentioned Bruce skates stiff. He always will with his knees. It's just the way joints work. I also agree about the disadvantage the pairs have where the male is the amateur. They are much more limited in the tougher moves involving lifts. Without regard to prior or lack of prior experience, I guess the judges aren't to take that into account. As stated by either Tai or Nancy, this show will indeed help with the way skating is viewed. It's great PR and I'm sure the skaters participating knew in advance of this. Being a competitive intense person, I greatly respect any of them that refuse to give up, work through scrapes and cuts and bruises. I figured Bruce would be that way. Jillian surprised though, because as she said, this is more than she's done in the past 20 years. At 40, she wasn't an athlete--a person who competed at high levels like Bruce. From him I expect it--and also respect it. From Jillian I appreciate it because it isn't her mold--and I respect it. (I thought it funny they had ot tell her no to trying an axel--she isn't afraid to go for broke)(body and otherwise)
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Klankfor
Member
02-07-2006
| Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 9:12 am
Hi all, I'm new to the boards so I'm just going to jump in. I just wanted to note that the "old guy" judge is John Hicks who is currently Sacha Cohen's coach and must now be in Torino. He's obviously the Simon Cowell of the group (with Dorothy as Paula and Mark as Randy) but I have a great deal of respect for what he has to say. I think he is at least trying to judge these folks on their skill level and not just whether they make us feel good. Sure, he definitely is crotchity, but I can't imagine this show without some voice of reason. I liked what Nancy said at the end of Monday's show about believing that this show would help their sport. I agree with that. It does show that skating is an amateur sport to try, no matter your age or skill level, and it also helps to appreciate what you see when you watch the "real" competitions. It definitely will help me understand and appreciate more the level of skill when I watch the Olympics. Glad to be a member.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 9:37 am
Welcome Klankfor! I'm sure you'll enjoy it here. John Hicks certainly has the credentials so to speak. I agree with your comment about how this type of show may generate some more appreciation of figure skating and how challenging a sport it is. One of the problems with watching anyone who is good at something is that they make it look easy. Then (as anyone who has put on a pair of skates or picked up a golf club knows) when you go to do it yourself, you quickly find out just how much skill these people have.
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Darrellh
Member
07-21-2004
| Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 9:52 am
I pick the same two teams that Watching does. It comes down to whether you give someone a score for what they did, or whether you just like their personality and that they're trying real hard.
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Potted_plant
Member
08-29-2001
| Wednesday, February 08, 2006 - 10:41 am
the couple I think that should go next, are the blonde female who were in the bottom 2 lat week, with a silver costume. This week, he practically carried & flipped her off the ice for the whole routine. I love Bruce & tia.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 3:33 am
Klankfor, thanks for the info on Hicks. I didn't realize he was Sasha Cohen's coach. I remember when she switched over to Yagudin's old coach, and that she switched again, but I didn't realize Hicks was her coach. He definitely knows his stuff then, although I do wish he'd tell Sasha to ease up on the splits (like maybe cutting down to 1 or 2 per program). 
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 4:50 am
FYI....its John Nicks, not Hicks. Hope you don't mind my pointing that out. I normally don't bother correcting minor errors in other people's info. But since a few people called him by the mistaken name, I just thought I'd clear it up. Nicks was Sasha's original coach back when she first entered the senior ladies scene. He also coached Tai/Randy and Jenni Meno/Todd Sand. HERE is a nifty little bio on him, courtesy of Sasha's website. Intersting....it says he also coached Peggy Flemming. That must have been as a secondary coach, or he coached her early in her career, as it was Carlo Fassi who coached Flemming when she won Olympic gold!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 09, 2006 - 5:03 am
Too late to edit....forgot to mention that of course Sasha is back with Nicks now, after leaving him for Tatiana Tarasova (Yagudin's coach, as previously mentioned), then moving on to Robin Wagner (who coached Sarah Hughes), and finally back to Nicks.
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 10:51 am
I was looking up Olympic skating info on the CBC site when I came upon this news item about Lloyd Eisler having to resign from being a volunteer at Torino because of his obligations to Skating With Celebrities. LINK
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 10:58 am
CJ - I was just coming to post the same thing. I think it SUCKS that Skating With Celebrities has prioritized themselves over amateur skating development programs. A guy can't get 2 weeks off to MENTOR amateur skaters at the Olympics? Talk about greedy. I have no respect for this show, and their priorities. They've finished filming. Surely people would understand if "Lloyd Eisler could not appear due to his work mentoring olympic athletes in Torino." Even though I don't watch this show, if I ever hear someone mention it, I will grump to them about this.
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 12:06 pm
I couldnt beleive that SWC--which I thought has finished taping--is forcing the skaters to stick with them. Are they keeping other skaters out of Olympic stuff too?
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Mak1
Member
08-12-2002
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 1:59 pm
Scotty Hamilton, host of SWC, is a commentator at the Olympics.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 8:41 pm
WOOHOO!! Can't get enough of Scott! 
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