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Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
to me, it was not 'sharing'. randal has the title and rebecca could have also had a job.

Cpmfinster
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08-15-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cpmfinster a private message Print Post    
If Trump had flat out hired them both on the spot there would be 2 "Apprenti". That's not what he was doing. He clearly labeled Randal the winner.

Randal failed to recognize that he was just crowned "The Apprentice". He stuck to his pre-planned and completely rehearsed reason why there should only be one.

Randal did more to tarnish his victory than he would have if he had answered yes when Trump asked.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rosie a private message Print Post    
Donald would be thrilled to know that his show rivals the Oscars. lol

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
"...and the oscar for best combover goes to the donald"...

Tabbyking
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03-11-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tabbyking a private message Print Post    
i have always appreciated giving more than receiving, so i would have loved to give someone else a job, too. i honestly know that i would have said to hire another person too. not one shred of doubt. i would not even have to think about it. it would have been a bigger thrill to me to give than to win. imagine making someone else that happy!

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Tabbyking, I am so with you on that!!! What a thrill to be able to give someone else such joy!

Remembering Amazing Race just this week (one WITH a happy ending) where one of the Linzes said they WISHED they could share their win with the 2nd place Bransens.

Mark13
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07-01-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mark13 a private message Print Post    
Kendra was sitting in the audience right next to the Yahoo guy that gave the $100,000. Bill was sitting on her other side. Didn't see Kelly though.

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Mark. Okay, so I'll have to quickly check one thing on my tape before i erase!
Seems odd Mr. T didn't introduce them; I totally missed that!

Max
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08-12-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Max a private message Print Post    
Well, gee. I like Randall from very early on this season and was rooting for him to win, but in my mind, it would have been a very tough decision to make because Rebecca truly did an outstanding job as well.

When Randall gave his answer about hiring Rebecca as well, I was very disappointed in him. As has been said by others, he clearly is "The Apprentice" and Rebecca would have clearly been "runner up." He had a chance to really show graciousness and he blew it. For me, that one simple action knocked him down a peg.

This was a good season, though, and I do believe that Trump hired the best person for the job. I just think he's missing out on another great asset in Rebecca. But I'm sure she will be very successful in whatever she pursues. She doesn't strike me as someone who takes setbacks to heart; instead, she'll view it as a learning experience and a great opportunity and turn it totally to her advantage.

Keldogg
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08-12-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 1:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Keldogg a private message Print Post    
What everyone needs to remember, is that Randall has no say in who Donald Trump hires...if tomorrow morning DT offers Rebecca a job at an even higher salary, Randall has no say in the matter at all. If DT really wants to hire Rebecca, and not just as a TV gimmick, than DT will do it. So do not blame Randall for a decision that DT should be making...not Randall.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 2:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sunshyne4u a private message Print Post    
. I thought Randall really seemed selfish and egocentric when he blunted said NO! To DT's question about hiring Rebecca.

Randall coasted thru this show by seeming like the 'good guy' and so many of his teammates liked his easygoing character. Interesting how Randall suddenly wasnt so accommodating or easy going when it came to Rebecca having a second place job.

It occurs to me that Randal may have just been using psychology and keeping his personality low key in order not to seem threatening. He also knows that people need to like you to work FOR you. Randal obviously has a backbone of steel the way he firmly stood against DT's suggestion.

I think Randal must have that rare ability to seem easygoing but be ruthless in business. How else does a guy successful create 5 businesses before the age of 33??

Anyways, I am surprised. I had never realized Rebecca was so young until this show. At 23 I really dont think she has the years/experience to be the apprentice. However, she definitely does have the same easygoing personality that Randal exhibited.

She will go far.

I would have loved to know how many donations were mailed in after the Comedy show.

((boring finale' eh?))

Lizziedi
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10-05-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 2:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lizziedi a private message Print Post    
I taped the show--went back to watch it when I couldn't sleep, and WOW, still reeling at the ending! Reading the posts, I'm trying to get some perspective, but I'm still sooooo disappointed with Randall! I agree with Cpm that his response seemed prepared, which did make it worse.

I really didn't like the last round of questions, and Randall did pull out all the stops against Rebecca. Rebecca showed such class throughout, just made me admire her more! (I don't care for the big hair--think she's so naturally lovely with the simple, sleek look.) She should have many opportunities and certainly has an amazing character reference from Trump, lol!

As for Alla--for the few obnoxious moments she was on, the show went south (Jerry Springer style). She's the antithesis of Rebecca, manipulative and jealous.

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 2:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Cathie a private message Print Post    
LOL, at our house we were calling her Alla-rosa tonight.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 4:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
I was ...um...I guess shocked (for lack of a better word) and very disappointed when Randal said no to hiring Rebecca. But after thinking about it, I don't think Randal didn't want Rebecca to get the job as much as he wasn't willing to share the spotlight with her.

Not that I blame him on that score. Sure, it would have been the gentlemanly thing to do in my eyes, but lets remember...

Randal beat her fair and square, and beating out Rebecca was NOT an easy win by any measure. Randal truly deserved to be recognized as THE APPRENTICE... that is what he worked so hard for.

I do think Trump will offer Rebecca the position she wanted anyway, and I believe Randal recognized that fact as well. But whether or not Rebecca works for Trump, isn't really the point for Randal. HE WON...and he deserved to win...he earned that victory and was entitled to be THE APPRENTICE.

I think in retrospect, maybe it wasn't a good idea to go with the "hire them both premise". It felt a bit anticlimatic to me and I think, took away from Randal's victory. I've come to believe it wasn't really fair to Rebecca or Randal. The winner should have been crowned, and then in a separate press release or public statement, Trump could have hired the other.

Too bad...this ending had such potential...

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 5:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Also...Kelly, Bill and Kendra were in that front row...Bill in the center. The camera angle only showed Kelly once..in the very beginning...

...and clutter...I believe the person who lost to Kendra was Tana...the "bedazzler"...

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 5:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Shelb724 a private message Print Post    
what i think should have happened is that trump could have said, randal, would you like to hire rebecca to work for you? that would have made a lot more sense. i don't necessarily think randal made the right decision on rebecca, but it did put him in a weird place. but i do think that rebecca is going to get a job with trump. that was a real dead heat when it came to both of them, that's for sure.

Gumby
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08-14-2004

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gumby a private message Print Post    
I think it would have been strange for Randal to suddenly say yes to hiring Rebecca when 5 minutes before he told him he shouldn't hire her because she lacks the experience, etc. I don't think it's a position he should have been put in. That's Donald's decision to make.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I am not sure Rebecca would take another job with Trump. This competition is about winning the big job, working closely with Trump and getting the exposure as victor. Trump offered Amy, the runner up from season 1, a job and she refused. Offering Rebecca "a job" is not what she wants. She has a job.

Trump has to defend Randalls decision claiming one has to be that cut throat to work in NYC, "the most vicious city of all". If he does not then it falls in his own lap. He made the final decision.

It will be interesting to hear what Randall has to say this morning on the Today Show. You just know he was up most of the night discussing this with his family, Trump and PR people.

This will open doors for Rebecca and she will get a lot of media attention because of this. She may find herself in a better position.

As far as the entertainment business goes, this is good stuff. Talk about buzz!



Pirate
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06-20-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pirate a private message Print Post    
I think Randal absolutely made the right decision. Anyone that says they "know" Rebecca would have said yes would have bet their first born that Randal would have said yes just before he gave his answer.

The other thing that bugs me is the attitude that it would have been charitable for Randal to have said yes to give Rebecca a job and Trump could have given her the other project. That would then have put Randal and her on equal footing and taken much away from his win. It would make them both apprentices.

I think Randal saying no like he did was the right decision. I think the way Trump presented the question on live TV, interrupting Randal's victory, was extremely tacky to say the least. It showed a lack of respect for Randal in my eyes.

Starman
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07-28-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Starman a private message Print Post    
Randall was just on Jim Kerr's show. Jim told Randall he made the right decision, and it seemed to me fron how Randall sounded like he needed to hear that from SOMEONE. I'm guessing he's getting a lot of flack over this.

I'm still bitter about it. If you look back at the good and bad qualities of both of them, they more or less cancel out. The only thing going for Randall is his education. However, he still looks like a di...err...jerk to the entire country.

Donald asked if Rebecca was tough enough to work in NYC. Well, if getting kicked while you're down on national TV and still keeping your poise is any indication, I'd have to say yes, Rebecca could.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Randal did more to tarnish his victory than he would have if he had answered yes when Trump asked.

and

If I were Trump, I would watch my back. Randal showed us tonight that he is all about Randal, and will ignore an opportunity to better someone else's position, if given the chance. That guy will NOT be loyal to Trump in the long haul, and I hope Trump puts him in a lower position than Cubicle Kelly Perdew.

I totally agree!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 6:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I don't understand what is right about Randall's decision. Do those who agree with him believe that he would have suffered any consequences from allowing Rebecca to work on the other project? If so what? Are you saying that you agree that sharing the spotlight is not good in some way?

Spoton
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09-16-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spoton a private message Print Post    
Going all the way back up the post to Curly - I think that Randall was totally right in saying no to Rebecca. I think Trump was, er, not totally right in even tossing that out to him - it diminished Randall's victory. Also, I really, really don't see what many of you here are seeing in Rebecca. She was such a loser on this show! She smiled her way through the tasks, leaving a wake of Fired teammates. As for her last task??? He should have fired her before she got back to the hotel!! In what universe did she think that a "fund raiser" meant you don't need to raise funds? I would have been furious had I been the charity. Plus, she embarrassed Yahoo by making them look like tightwads. Sheesh.

Survivoraddict
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09-02-2005

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Survivoraddict a private message Print Post    
Cathie,Alla was the "next Omorosa" at my house. I'm still fuming over what Randall did. He didn't make the right decision. It wasn't right to cost someone who was supposed to be his "friend" such a big opportunity.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, December 16, 2005 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I still don’t understand how Rebecca raised $0 at that fundraiser? Did none of the attendees send in any money at all in those envelopes? Unbelievable!!!

Yahoo embarrassed themselves.

Strong, confident intelligent people can afford to be magnanimous in victory. I thought Randall had all of those qualities and he clearly showed them – until last night. Now I’m not so sure.