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The_beav
Member
08-07-2005
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:09 pm
Personally, I know the <el> and I hope he falls on his ass. His wife is a sweet woman. A primary school teacher who has supported his needs and career. Their marriage was not perfect but that does not excuse bad behaviour. It may not be for us to judge but when the biggest selling point of a routine is how passionate it looks then I am not going to apologize by being turned off by it.
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Clutterfree
Member
10-24-2003
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:24 pm
I am really taken aback--I thought THIS was the finale tonight!!!! I actually am so ready for this show to be over! FYI, there's another hour to go Thursday at 9 PM. I didn't watch all of it tonight, but enjoyed the clips of the returning already-eliminated pairs. Still rooting for Jillian.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 7:39 pm
Ditto, Clutterfree. I was a bit irritate, truth be told. It's like Apprentice -- they have commercials that make you think the last three shows are the "finale." Shoot, tonight they even said, next week is the "REAL" finales-- as if they were not told that this wasn't the finale either. I am ready for it to be done, mainly because Scottie hasn't skated once! If they'd end each show with him and a few Kurt solos, I'd watch until as long as they'd show it! 
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Clutterfree
Member
10-24-2003
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:00 pm
Wow, cool idea Teachmichigan! Yes, I would love to see Scott skate!!! Why not???? And Dorothy could do a few turns too!
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:22 pm
<el> And... it's NOT the finale tonight??? Dang it, I thought it was. Oh well, I'll record it and FF thru all the extra stuffage.
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Tvwatcher
Member
04-17-2004
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 8:31 pm
I enjoyed the show tonight - I really enjoyed seeing all the other skaters perform. I put all of their "personal indescretions" out of my mind, and watched the show for its entertainment. It was good - and i really enjoyed the conversational clips with the other skaters.
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Nickovtyme
Member
07-29-2004
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 9:41 pm
It's funny how I can't help to watch Kristy and Eisler's skating with a skewed opinion of it. Their song they skated to really put a whole 'nother perspective on the whole situation.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:10 pm
I flipped back and forth between Deal and no deal
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, February 27, 2006 - 11:36 pm
I have to watch this episode again, because it didn't look like Lloyd and Kristy did that much in their routine, but they got really high marks. I just remember a couple of nice spirals (is that the right word?) and a couple of lifts. Did they do the required jumps and I just didn't notice? I expected more from both pairs for the final round. Jillian and Zimmerman put a lot into their routine, but seemed shaky and unsteady throughout. Just to comment on the Eisler thing: I know some are questioning how strong his marriage could've been if he was willing to cheat on his pregnant wife, but how long could it have been "over" if he was impregnating her some four months prior? In my book, it's not over until it's over legally and separation does not mean no longer married. Have we reached a point where a troubled marriage means adultery is allowable? I'm just not willing to go to such lengths to make excuses for a cheating husband like suggesting perhaps the baby was an attempt to hang on (he didn't have to sleep with her) or that it was too long a wait for divorce papers to go through (they hadn't even signed a separation agreement yet). Some people just cheat, and there's no real excuse for making that choice especially when you have a toddler and another child who is about to enter the world. I still think it's weird that he and Kristy seem to have no rapport in their clips. She always looks upset and unhappy, and he always looks harsh. I don't see any chemistry or romance there.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 1:42 am
OK, I completely respect and understand where folks are coming from that say its not for us to judge. In fact, when Clinton was first running for President, I remember there being an issue of infidelity with him, and people were deciding whether to vote or not vote for him based on that. My boss and I were in a discussion about it, and I pointed out to her that if his wife had agreed to take him back and forgive him, that it was between him and her, and not for us to get in the middle of it. That being said, its really no wonder the public feels like they have a right to look at an athlete's private life. Look how many fluff pieces the networks do on all the athletes, so we can "get to know them" outside of their competitive arena. Anyway, I decided I'd tune into tonight's performance and watch as though I hadn't heard a thing about it. Then, they skated to Unchained Melody, and my fist gut instinct was that knowing what we did made that piece all that much harder to watch. But then as I watched the program (assuming they were already at the fooling around point when they filmed that), I still didn't see anywhere's near the passion/steam/heat that Underhill/Martini accomplished with their rendition of the same music. But then, Underhill/Martini's rendition is probably one of my two all-time favorite professional pairs pieces. So it was probably unfair to compare the two. I didn't think they did all that much either, compared to the stuff Jillian and John did. But, I just figured the producers did that to make things interesting and to make it look close, so we'd tune in for the last show. If it was looking too much like a runaway, we might not be inspired to watch the finale. The "real" finale that is!
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The_beav
Member
08-07-2005
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 5:17 am
So how did Marcia found out that Llyod was having an affair while he was still out of the country -- Kristy sent her an e-mail telling all. Nice behaviour. This is why I get snarky and end up getting moderated
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Sincebb1
Member
08-22-2005
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 7:20 am
I was watching the Olympics women's figure skating finals. Italian skater Silvia Fontana was the first to skate. They then showed John Zimmerman with her coach at the side of the rink as she was skating and said that he was her husband. Curious, I went to Fox's website to read his bio. They got married in 2003.It also mentioned that he was the first athlete featured on Queer Eye For The Straight Guy. I then remembered seeing that episode with the wife and husband figure skaters. They were very sweet together.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 8:34 am
Silvia Fontana's final farewell skate (her long program) was awesome. She wasn't perfect, but there was SOOO much emotion in her skate. I have a question for those of you who insist on calling Eisler and Kristy names (like aldulterers). Did you also say the same thing about Angelinia Jolie and Brad Pitt? Seriously, do you think both women should be branded with a scarlet A? EVERYONE is entitled to his or her own opinion. I resent, however, being told that I should dislike someone because he had an affair and his girlfriend emailed his wife. (BTW, did you actually see that email?) It is not my place to judge what others do behind closed doors. I honestly thought we had progressed beyond the scarlet letter phase of the Victorian era. If two consenting adults want to knock boots, it's their life. It's their karma. And to hope someone loses a GAME because of that... we'll it's their loss but judge them on how well they skated, not what they do when the lights go down. (However, that said, it sounds like Jillian did a much better job of skating, at least last night. )
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 9:34 am
The wonderful thing about this country is that we can express our opinions....freely. And, I appreciate the moderator guidelines of these boards, otherwise we could have chaos! For me, personally, I prefer to leave the "judgement" portion of life to a higher power. I am just as weak and vulnerable as everyone else and in no position to judge the "sin". However, it is unrealistic to think that behaviors contrary to society's structure or personal beliefs would not influence our view of a situation or of another person. That is called being human; right or wrong. I prefer to work on personal growth and development and not get caught up in how others go through life. The only person I can be responsible is me. Why should I take what others say personally? They have a right to express themselves...don't they?
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 11:08 am
As I said, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. My question was did the same standard apply to Jolie/Pitt?
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Lancecrossfire
Animoderator
07-13-2000
| Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 2:04 pm
Based on posts made in the hollywood gossip thread over the pst couple of months, I'd say Brad and Angelena got worse treatment than has been given here in this thread. I'd like to caution folks about how you express yourself on this issue. Make it about what has actually happened and not about them. I realize that can tough to do, but for this board it needs to be done. Think about your posts--are you calling them names or talking about the actions? Thanks in advance
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 8:26 pm
Swanson slips during `Skating` promo Mar 1, 2006, 3:28 GMT LOS ANGELES, CA, United States (UPI) -- The 'Skating with Celebrities' scandal surrounding celeb contestant Kristy Swanson and her married partner Lloyd Eisler, has the duo skating on thin ice. Eisler`s pregnant wife recently revealed her husband walked out on her and took up with his movie star partner in the Fox TV reality competition. Swanson, who was the original big screen Buffy in 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer,' caught more than her toe pick during an interview Monday on 'Good Day L.A.,' the New York Post reported. When asked what her cash or prizes were from the show, she replied: 'A boyfriend!' Jillian Barberie, who is competing against Swanson in Thursday night`s finale of the show and is also co-host of 'Good Morning L.A.,' appeared to leave the set at that point, the Post said. 'Oh, awkward moment,' Swanson said. link
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 8:49 pm
Sorry, but that story is riddled with inaccuracies and, because the story originates with the NY Post, which has the same ownership as FOX network [Murdoch], I imagine it's probably an effort to boost interest in the finale. I was watching that interview and Jillian did NOT leave the set. She loves being on camera too much for that. She was there the whole time and they were schmoozing like old buddies. In fact, they talked about how friendly they all became during the show--Jillian hangs out at Bruce's house all the time, apparently, and drags Bruce's wife out to clubs. Swanson said "awkward moment" about Dorothy Lucy, one of the Good Day LA co-hosts, saying that she'd gotten a boyfriend out of the deal--Ms. Swanson herself never said she'd gotten a bf out of the show. After she said "awkward moment," Ms. Swanson said that she'd just reiterate what she'd already said in the press--something like she and the skater guy are in fact a couple and blah blah blah. I don't remember whether she mentioned the pregnant wife or not. I don't watch Skating with the Stars--or I haven't since the second week--so I don't really care. But I did see the interview....things are too low key/ADD on the Good Day LA set to contemplate anyone walking off. It's much more likely Jillian and Ms. Swanson had cosmopolitans at the Standard after the show than anything else.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 8:55 pm
Tish - I saw what you saw - and when Kristy said she would repeat what she has already said in the media, that they are a couple now, she then said something like, "and the rest is hogwash."
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Wednesday, March 01, 2006 - 9:05 pm
"I was watching that interview and Jillian did NOT leave the set. She loves being on camera too much for that." ------- that made me burst out laughing tish. so true. (speaking of jillian, i remember a couple of months back she mentioned she lives in what is called "the black beverly hills". i know she lives in the valley (encino?)....but do you know what place she is talking about. i thought that a strange comment.)
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 12:04 pm
Abby I have no idea! But then again, I don't know that, in all my years here, I've ever been in Encino! LOL.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 4:54 pm
Finale tonite after AI?
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Jedisan
Member
01-11-2002
| Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 5:40 pm
yes Tex.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 5:51 pm
I hope so. I'm still amazed that they only found 6 minutes to skate last week out of 60 minutes so they had to break it up into two "finales."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Thursday, March 02, 2006 - 7:55 pm
who won??
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