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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 11:32 pm
I thought Carolyn was very vocal tonight. George too. I liked it. Puzzled, you are so right, they totally were "leading the witness" so to speak, and he was deaf...
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 11:43 pm
It's really puzzling, isn't it, Julieboo. 
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:25 am
God!! What an idiot tonight!! ITA about them giving Chris ALL THE CLUES. What a bonehead move. The girls' presentation was great. The little smug Reese Witherspoon lookalike annoys me. She thinks she's all that and a bag of chips. She's putting herself out there to have people turn on her. I wouldn't keep her around much longer, knowing how quick she is to badmouth. It bothers me that they don't draw on how MArkus proposed a slogan that the Lamb. Exec HATED. They don't mention THAT part. He's not the guy who was full of the ideas the ad people LOVED. I don't get why he was not called out for that. Mind you editing is key. Bonehead move tonight. Just proves that the hotter they are, the dumber they get. I could have *watched* Chris a few more weeks. What's with this precedent of only bringing ONE person in to the BR? I don't like it. Less bickering. Makes for quick decisions.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 6:15 am
How utterly stupid. I believe that Trump had his eye on Chris as a contender for the win. Never mind he was told what to do for a moment. If he was not inclined to listen in the board room, previous seasons have sent the message, always take two in. Always.
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Adven
Member
02-06-2001
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 8:21 am
I agree, HRH. Trump has said in the past he will keep eccentric incompetent people around for a few weeks just for the ratings. To me, he was letting Chris know he wasn't going to fire Markus - likely for this reason - and that Chris had better bring someone else. In fact, he practically told Chris who to bring. I think Trump knows fairly early on who he wants to be in the final two or three and that's why he pushes strongly to have three in the boardroom: so he can make sure it happens. In this case, I think he may have had Chris pegged as a finalist and had to decide between him and Markus who is controversial and, therefore, creates viewer interest.
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Ocean_islands
Member
09-07-2000
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 8:30 am
It's interesting that I'm not hearing anyone say Chris was 'stupider' than Markus. Chris had it handed to him on a platter and yet he was still unable to recognize that. That's pretty dense. So I believe Trump made the right decision. It goes to show you that looks and presentation don't mean you are the sharpest knife in the drawer ;). I do think it helps the ratings, but I also agree with Trump that Markus is not the reason the team lost. And I think that is the reason Chris was fired. It wasn't for ratings sake.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 8:35 am
They sure got rid of Melissa fast. And she was sure to consistently cause controversy....
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 8:43 am
Chris is "stupider" than a box of hair. Listen, if the boss gives you direction (like don't bring Marcus into the board room) and you choose to ignore that direction and on top of that do not hedge your percentages by taking 2 people with you...well who needs an employee like that...not Trump. Also I thought it was a bad move to be so certain you were going to win the project solely because they are MALE...just plain stupid, again. Didn't they realize that the head mucky muck was female. And why was Marcus dismissed by his team without even truly listening to him about adding a ? after the green with envy slogan? It was a bad move to discount Marcus just because he's odd.
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Marameko
Member
07-15-2002
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:05 am
Chris is hard headed.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 9:10 am
Juliboo, I think Melissa was let go because remember she admitted females don't like her because she's prettier and smarter and she said she can't work with females...well Trump has many females working for him. She had to be let go even though she would have been one of those Omarosa type contestants that would have got the show a lot of ink. But when you limit yourself to being only able to work with 50% of the populkations and Carolyn is a big part of Trump's Apprentice...he had no choice.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:32 am
My husband thinks Chris was fired because he didn't "suck up" to DT. He obviously did not do what DT wanted him to do. He thinks that DT can't stand it when people aren't his puppets. Calls DT's behavior arrogant. Just my husband's
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:47 am
I can't speak for DT or your hubby Auntie, but if I was looking to hire someone to run one of my companies, I sure as heck would be looking for someone who was capable of listening. Chris didn't hear a word Donald said. Chris was so focused on his own ideas and thoughts, he didn't even consider what DT was saying. Chris seemed to me to be the one who wasn't willing to listen to other people's ideas. He was so righteously sure of his ideas, he would not even consider that maybe Marcus was right on a few things. It was Chris' determination to have everything done HIS way that lost them the project.... Marcus was not the reason they lost, and Chris was too wrapped up in his own righteousness that he didn't see that. Marcus acts like a jerk and won't go far in this show... but he was effectively taken out of the process, so there is no way Marcus cost them the project. That was ALL Chris' doing...I agree with Trump's decision. And the sad part was, Trump WANTED to keep Chris... but Chris just kept loading that weapon and pointing it at his own temple... DUMB.
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Tweety
Member
04-14-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:57 am
I thought it was incredibly insensitive to show pictures of the grandmother's funeral. If Trump wants to provide a helicopter, fine. But why shouldn't the family have their privacy without a bunch of cameras there? They're not competing in the show.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 11:57 am
I agree with all those points Kep!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:42 pm
I agree too Kep and will add that I think Chris also thought that because of his gender he had the project all wrapped up before it even started. I doubt Trumps ego, as big as it is, ever came into play this time around.
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Chewpito
Member
01-04-2004
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 12:48 pm
totally agree tweety about the cameras at the funeral, what the heck was that all about, i would have been so mad....sorry, but that was a huge NO-NO!!!!
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 1:25 pm
I noticed the camera shots of the funeral too... but I also noticed they were "distance" shots with a zoom lense. It didn't appear to me that the show encroached on the event. As far as filming, I can't imagine that someone didn't give permission for the shots. If the family objected to it I'm sure we would have heard about it by now. Trump doesn't strike me as someone who would risk so much bad publicity or possible lawsuit over a funeral. What Trump did was nice... and I don't think the shots of the funeral were intrusive or offensive. Its not like he had a reporter on the church steps trying to interview the grieving family. Now that would have been crass...
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 2:16 pm
This reward was almost as dumb as the community service award on Martha's Apprentice. How many on either team would really enjoy doing this? Would Donald enjoy doing this? And then to hurt yourself trying to be a good sport is too much.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 2:59 pm
Chris is on MSNBC right now...
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:03 pm
He thinks they didn't follow the golden rule of advertising: KISS (keep it simple stupid). Got a little overconfident... thought they had it in the bag. RE: Marcus... Just overanalyzes, talked too much, an employee that would lose a company revenue. The reason he brought him in was because if he were leading a company, he'd get rid of the person losing the company money. He didn't look at who lost 'em the task, and realizes he should've. He focused instead on getting rid of someone who would help the team lose in the future. WRT Trump telling him not bring Marcus back... His decision was made prior to the boardroom and was gonna focus on why team lost and not why lost the Lamborghini issue. He kinda chuckled. And when the announcer asked him about why he didn't listen to Trump, he blew her off and said he'd already decided to focus on getting rid of the reason the team lost (not the assignment though). Seriously, not impressed with the guy...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:09 pm
What is WRT?
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Chieko
Member
11-20-2003
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 3:57 pm
WRT with regard to
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 5:13 pm
I didn't think the funeral shots were bad, in fact, I was thinking, Wow! I bet his grandma didn't think in a million years that her funeral would be somewhat televised. When my mother died last November, I wanted to tell the world. I lost somebody that meant the world to me and felt no shame in telling anyone who would listen. Just my humble thoughts. I think Marcus is a plant and not the green kind. He seems to clueless to be real.
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Juju2bigdog
Member
10-27-2000
| Friday, September 30, 2005 - 6:40 pm
I didn't think the long shots of the funeral were at all disrespectful, and I am sure they had to have the family's permission to use them. In a way, that was part of Grandma's life, that she "went out" on national television.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, October 01, 2005 - 10:56 am
I thought it was very sweet and thoughtful of DT to offer a limo and his personal helicopter to take Randall to his grandmother's funeral. As gruff as DT can be, he does seem to consider people's feelings when they're going through a personal crisis (remember how he took Heidi aside and asked her if she was okay when she found out her mom had cancer?). I thought the shots of the funeral were fine, since they were obviously from a distance and didn't seem intrusive. I'm sure the family had to give their permission. Their son's on a TV show, for goodness sake, and they didn't take the cameras into the church. Now that would have been poor taste!
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