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Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's looks like Brat Camp is being pre-empted this week for a two special on Peter Jennings.

Seamonkey
Moderator

09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 10, 2005 - 11:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ah that is why my DVR was so darn confused!! In the listing it showed that it was recording but it didn't record anything.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 5:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah...it happened here in the mid west too...*sighs*...

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 7:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i guess no one was paying attention to CNN this week...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/08/bratcamp.bust.ap/index.html


'Brat Camp' teen charged in racial graffiti case
(its isiah)


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 8:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Legal, one of the links above addressed that incident... (Puzzle's Aug. 5th post.)

Rockmin
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07-10-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Any info on when this weeks episode will air? My local stations sometimes stick these pre-empted shows at 2:00am on Sunday morning.... I'd hate to miss it.


Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm guessing the network pre-empted the show this week and will probably just run it next week.

I didn't watch that time slot, so I don't know if before they ran the Peter Jennings tribute, if they announced that Brat Camp will not be shown tonight and this episode will be shown next week (or whatever)

And don't they usually run the previous weeks episode of Brat Camp the hour before the new one runs? So maybe they'll do that?

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 11:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
thanks julie

Rockmin
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07-10-2003

Thursday, August 11, 2005 - 3:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The first 4 episodes of Brat Camp will air on the Family Channel this Sunday starting at 2:00pm.



Scout
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01-20-2005

Monday, August 15, 2005 - 9:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Rockmin, I watched it yesterday so that I could go back and see the families again and find out more about what the kids were like now that we know them better. It's really interesting to see how far many of them have come.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay gang...I had better not be the only one boo-hooing over here. Omigosh. I am just so proud of these kids. There is just something about Nick's smile that really gets to me. He could make a fortune doing commercials.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, August 17, 2005 - 7:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, this show got to me too. I just hope they all really do live happily ever after. Though it seems that Isiah still has problems as does Jada. But at least with Jada (though I am sorry to say it) I have no hope for her... At least not yet.

Cr8ofdata
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01-13-2004

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 3:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes it got to me too! I really didn't think Heather was ready to go home, but Nick and Lexie was ready for sure! I was the most proud of Lexie - I hope they show updates on her. Did anyone else notice how different they looked from the beginning? They all looked so much softer!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 4:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I couldnt watch the ending!!! I still cant believe that Jada's parents werent "getting it" but then again, with editing, I would think that the people Mother Raven would somehow have a heart to heart with her mom... I can understand why her mom felt guilty... but to contrast it with the video of Jada saying how she's playing them...

With all the negative talk of some extreme boot camps, this has been an excellent look into one... I sure had my doubts!!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 4:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think they let Heather go much in part cuz she was going straight to boarding school after the holidays with her family... (as was Lexie). I was sad to see the harsh makeup on Lexie though (after she left.)

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 6:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't care for the dark makeup on Lexie either, but I don't think its an indication of her reverting to her bad behaviors. She just may like that look...although I couldn't imagine why~~

My kids went through some very weird looks too...



Scout
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01-20-2005

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hope Nic can keep up his self-esteem when he gets back home. I wonder if his mom and dad have had the "good twin, bad twin" labels on the two of them for a long time.

I knew two sisters, the oldest of whom was really intelligent and really manipulative. She always managed to set-up the younger one to look like the troublemaker, and that's exactly what her parents ended up believing as well.

I know they said the whole family will be in therapy, and I hope the brothers can resolve their issues. Although, we only heard the one twin's side, and it's possible that he was the one picking on the other in the first place. You never really know when you hear just the one side of the story.

I think all these kids would benefit from family sessions.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh I cried and cried during last night's show. Good for Lexie and Nick and Heather. Re: Heather, I think we just didn't see a lot of her during the series. I am looking forward to next wk. season finale. The teaser showed Jada hugging her mom. She must make a lot of headway during the next amount of time. It seemed to she would never graduate. I wonder if it is just a visit from her mom and that Jada won't go home anytime soon.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really cried when I watched this episode, too. And I'm getting increasingly angry with Jada--in part because I know what she's done since she left and how it's utterly predictable after her behavior on the show. I really believe that Isiah's case after the show is somewhat different: it's just that he had poor impulse control and he even tried to rectify the situation by erasing the graffitti and, in so doing, got caught. I'm willing to extend a couple mistakes to him. He really seems to be trying to me.

I never got the Heather thing. I really like Lexie and I really wish her the best.

Nick's a great kid. I think I said this early on with this show, but I think he has been poorly served by his schools and by his parents. There is no reason for him to have what looks like minimal care for his dyslexia--minimal care that allows others (and himself) to see him as stupid when it's clear he is bright, sensitive, and warm. There's just no excuse.

I just cannot imagine why Derek isn't just forced to take his meds.

Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, August 18, 2005 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nick's a great kid. I think I said this early on with this show, but I think he has been poorly served by his schools and by his parents.

You are so right, Tishala. I have dyslexia and so do two of our kids. It's a very hard row to hoe in school, but with the proper support and understanding from your parents it doesn't lead to the kind of behaviour that Nick's showed.

Something is very wrong at home, and it's not just his dyslexia.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 6:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hard to listen to Jada, knowing the spoilers, so sad... she did live outside for 56 days, but she never did give up her attitude, even at the end.

so much hope in this graduation,as we listen to the kids talk, and the moms listen and acknowledge

no grudges w/o this I'd be a lost cause... says Lauren..

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Next, the kids adjust to life back home, but do they really change?




Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This finale seemed a bit rushed... Especially for Jada graduating. I think most of the kids did have a good "change"--particularly Lauren and Shawn...

Cr8ofdata
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01-13-2004

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 7:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Jada should have stayed out there and I bet that if it wasnt' a tv show, they would have made her stay longer. They said at the beginning that some kids had to stay up to 90 days. Jada really needed the 90 day treatment!!! She couldn't live without her cell phone and internet - well how does she think we all lived when we were kids, heck we didn't even have cable TV!!!! Get real - her life will be a very sad life to live.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jada could have stayed there until the cows came home and still not have received any benefit. Until she is ready to get sincere and do the work necessary for change, there will be no change.

I had a band instructor who used to preach to us, that you will only get something out if you are willing to first put something in.

I was so proud of the kids that "got it" and made such positive changes. I think it was Christmas day when I finally saw Frank's face change. It just seemed to relax.

I was tickled that Nick and his brother were getting along. Those parents must be breathing huge sighs of relief. Siblings that are constantly at each other sure can wreck havoc on a happy home environment.

I am so happy this worked out so well for most of them.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 9:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh my this was a tear-jerker tonight. Loved when Frank and Lauren were talking with their moms.

Jada will not change. She was already a lost cause.

Vee
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02-23-2004

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 9:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Another show that I really enjoyed. If I had a child who was not doing well, I would not hesitate to send him/her to Sage Walk. I thought that the counselors were positive and handled all the "attitude" extremely well.

Poor Jada, she doesn't have a clue, but maybe when she is a little older, a light will go on. Can't imagine what I would do with a child like that, but I have the feeling that I would never have allowed a child to get to that point...hope that's true anyway. (And I do hate to always blame the parents.)

It also impressed me that the show was honest in sharing what had happened to both Jada and Isaiah. No sugar coating there!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 9:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This was an excellent show. Especially enjoyed watching it with my 13 year old daughter and 14 year old son, who, thankfully, are great kids and not in any trouble. But, they may have friends who struggle, as these kids did, and would be aware of help available. I am always trying to teach them how to be a good friend and set a high standard for themselves.

I feel very blessed. I really enjoyed the "where are they now" section and feel hopeful for most of them. Jada.....another story. I am so sorry they never focused on the work they have to do with parents as well. It is usually a "family" problem, not just the child's. It is only their behavior that becomes the symptoms of the family problems.

I wish them all well. Hope the networks recognize the value of this type of show and keep it real if they do it again.

Angelicfairies2
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07-19-2004

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Major tear jerker last night-Jada will NOT change-that little girl just got on my nerves over & over.

Max
Moderator

08-12-2000

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really enjoyed this, too. I was really waiting to see how they handled the follow-up stuff to see how honest they'd be about Jada and Isaiah. They were quite even-handed about it.

Jada never had a chance unless her parents received equally as much "re-education" as she did. They came across as major enablers of her behavior.

That's the one aspect we didn't see anything of and I think it's a shame. According to SageWalk's website, part of the program is family counseling, where the parents learn new techniques for dealing with their kids. We didn't see any of that. If it occurred, I doubt Jada's parents learned much from it, just as Jada didn't really learn anything from her experience. Truly a sad situation.

But on the bright side, seven of the nine students we saw experienced what appears to be a true turnaround in their perspectives and attitudes towards life. That's amazing. :-)

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Thursday, August 25, 2005 - 12:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why did they seem to only use boarding school for the girls and not the boys???

Not1worry
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07-30-2002

Friday, August 26, 2005 - 8:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I finally watched this last episode. As Jada was wailing after finding out that the others had graduated, I was yelling at my TV "Just leave her out there! Leave her!" Ooooh, poor thing couldn't have her cell phone at boarding school. Her parents are really letting her run things and they get what they deserve. Usually I have a great deal of mercy and sympathy on these young kids, but Jada...none.

Lauren was definitely my favorite, with Frank next. Both of them seemed transformed, body, spirit and soul. I hope they really are.