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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's on ABC at 9pm Thursdays. About New York people looking for love, I think they are all meeting each other online. I've just watched the intro, and it looks hilarious.

Thank GOD I am not single in New York.

Jennabeesmommy
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06-06-2004

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's pretty good, different from the same old thing. It's true, too. I did think that the one girl was pretty rude about the guy being older than he said. Yeah, lying about that was not the greatest way to start off, but she didn't even try to get to know him, she just wrote him off immediately. If you're desperate enough to be doing online dating, you really shouldn't be being THAT picky.

Jennabeesmommy
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06-06-2004

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, Cynthia is acting pretty snotty towards her dates. Has she considered that maybe that why she's having bad dates? Sheesh. And I like Claire, but she dumped that other guy by e-mail, so what's she complaining about?

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 7:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can see why the hair salon manager was mean to the guy who said he looked like a "thin Fabio" but turned out to be more like Ozzy Osbourne. But she was mean to that second guy (from the speed dating) from the start. She's totally bringing it on herself.

I too felt bad for Claire. I think she's so pretty, and I can't believe that guy dumped her. They seemed to have chemistry, but I guess you never know.

I thought that surgeon woman deserved to get written off by that other doctor, for lying about her profession. God. Get over yourself! She says she doesn't want to put her real name and profession online because "what would her clients think", but yet she does this show!! HA!! I'm glad that doctor dumped her when she decided to tell the truth.

The poker player was WAAAY over the top for my liking. All that romantic schmoopy stuff. Not my style. I would see him as corny, but hey, that girl fell for it. Cool that he broke the date.

What's with these New York people anyways? They are all rich enough to afford Kate Spade bags, and they date a new person every night. What a life!!!

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 10:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
A question for those who saw the show:

I don't get it. What is it that is so fascinating about single women from Manhattan and their dating experiences?

A few years ago there was an entire series called "The Real Sex and the City" about just this topic. This is what I learned:

-There's a shortage of men in New York

-If you want a man you have to approach finding one like you would a job

-Men are intimidated by women who have achieved success in their careers

-Be acutely aware of the behaviors that come with each and every ethnic type (Jewish guys behave a certain way, Italian guys behave a certain way, etc) and, if you want to see the guy again, play into those behaviors

-Be seen at trendy places (including the Hamptons)

-Be aloof during the first date

-You're lucky to find a guy in NYC because there aren't many available (straight) guys so be prepared to date A LOT

I'd be curious to see if many of these same themes (for lack of a better word) are shown in this series.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 11:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Scorpio with a lot of what you've just said. It really is a weird phenomenon, the NY dating scene. But then again, NY is like no other city around either.

I think there are just some women though, who are career daters. They date a bazillion different men, and not one of them is ever good enough.

I think the ethnic aspect of the men in these shows is somewhat true. Especially in the NY area, because many ethicities have their own areas, where they experience institutional completeness, and this keeps the "ways" of their culture more intact. And this doesn't just pop up on DATING shows. We see it on most shows featuring New York. Look at Seinfeld.

Did you watch tonight Scorpio? I guess it was a continuation of Real Sex and the City. I don't think you'd see anything surprising, or see any dating revelations.

New York dating is a breed unto itself.

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

Friday, July 15, 2005 - 12:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eeyore, I couldn't agree with you more. New York city is like no other city and you can't really appreciate it or get a real feel for it if you haven't experienced it.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Friday, July 15, 2005 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eeyore: Excellent post!

But here's the thing: I think most of us understand how unique and special NYC is. So, why do is it necessary to continually exam the dating rituals of New Yorkers? Besides this show and "The Real Sex in the City", I've seen a handful of pieces on shows like Dateline, 20/20 who have beat this topic to death.

Women in NYC have to go about finding a relationship in a different way than the rest of us. So what?

(I'm not venting at you, Eeyore. I'm just venting in general.)

But to be fair, I will catch the episode to see what it is all about.

Resortgirl
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09-23-2000

Friday, July 15, 2005 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They think dating in New York is tough?? Try finding a date in Nevis, MN.... where teeth are optional!!

Max
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08-12-2000

Friday, July 15, 2005 - 10:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think finding a date in today's world is more and more difficult no matter where you live. The older you get, the more difficult it is. Thus, the proliferation of online dating services. They could do this show in any major city, but New York is easy and offers a great variety of people and places that operate 24/7, making production costs relatively low.

There are other things I take issue with besides the choice of location.

For example, why does the hairdresser gal post old pictures of herself but then get offended when men do it? Her pictures might be less old than some of the guys', but they're still not her today. And who goes hiking in a dress and heels?! And, if she's so forthright and straightforward, why didn't she just tell the long-haired guy that she didn't appreciate his deception and leave instead of having a friend call the restaurant (like she doesn't have a cell phone?!) and then bail on a fake emergency. Seems to me that she has some inflated ideas about how 'honest' and 'strong' she is if she can't simply be honest and strong herself in such a situation.

Why is the doctor surprised that her date was put off by her lying about her name and keeping her profession secret? If the roles were reversed, she'd probably blow a gasket.

The small-town girl looking to find a husband is enamoured with a professional poker player who is 10 years older than she is. Hmmm. If the thing you want most is a husband and a kid, seems like a professional gambler might not be your first choice for providing a stable environment. And when he said the bit about Paxil, I would think that would have been a deal-breaker right there (do you really want someone who is so judgmental about something you're on?). Add the fact that he's dating multiple people in the same day and clearly doesn't have the same goals. . . You get my drift. Yet, despite these caution flags, she's in hot pursuit.

The advertising exec, who seems very smart, is enamoured of a guy who is so "up" on current affairs that he doesn't know who Tom Ridge is. Her name drop did a TOTAL fly-by on him -- literally no one was home there.

See, the thing that irritates me about these kinds of shows (and I did see the one y'all mentioned above) is that the women tend to end up looking bad. The men don't get followed as much, so even when they aren't the nicest guys or don't make great choices, they don't come off as bad as the women do. Why don't we have a show following the guys around? Heck, at least for this five-part series, maybe we could have one or two shows that do that? (To be honest, I don't know that they aren't going to do this, but the first two shows, at least, are just following the women.)

I will probably watch out of morbid curiosity and to satisfy myself that my online dating experiences are not unique (they mirror much of what was shown in terms of old pictures and exaggerated profiles -- hard to understand how some of these guys can actually believe their own hype), but I get really frustrated with watching these "strong" women be so weak.

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Friday, July 15, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This was absolutely hysterical. i don't know why either, just funny. i didn't take it seriously at all. But the one who was the receptionist at the hair dresser was funny, when she went into the bathroom and set up the phone call to get her out of the date. i did something like that in college--i went on a date wth a guy, he was my first date in college. we went to the dining hall (talk about a cheap date) and i decided that it was enough. so i told him i had to go back to my dorm, and i had a friend go to the lobby of my dorm to tell him i didn't feel good and couldn't go back out. that just brought back that memory to me big time :-)

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 1:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
See, the thing that irritates me about these kinds of shows (and I did see the one y'all mentioned above) is that the women tend to end up looking bad. The men don't get followed as much, so even when they aren't the nicest guys or don't make great choices, they don't come off as bad as the women do.

Holy moly, Max! That is a freaking understatement!

After reading everyone's comments, I went searching for this episode, downloaded it and just finished watching. The majority of the time I felt a tightness in my chest.

Oh my gosh! Most of these women have ugly,, ugly, UGLY personalities. And they wonder why they are single? Ugh.

The only one I found tolerable was Claire (the ad exec who was "dumped" by Josh). Even though she was likable, there was something about her--inexperience or naiveté or maybe lack of brain cells. Either way, she came across as a bit of a ditz.

You know, when women have a clear agenda and seem to be more focused on getting what they want as opposed to wanting to truly connect with another human being, they freaking deserve to have the "disappointing" experiences that they do.

The Cynthia person was a piece of work. I actually cheered when the guy she met at speed dating called her out and wanted to know what her problem was.

Like attracts like. If they keep on attracting "jerks" then maybe they need to take a closer look at themselves.

Watching the small-town chick and the poker player kissing on the street made me want to vomit.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Monday, July 18, 2005 - 4:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"Watching the small-town chick and the poker player kissing on the street made me want to vomit."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Hilarious!!!


I like Claire too, but as Jennabeesmommy pointed out, she dumped the firstguy via email, so the irony was there when Josh did it to her. Karma is a b!tch.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Wednesday, July 20, 2005 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Resortgirl - you cracked me up with your no-teeth comment!!

It's amazing how many people I know doing the online dating thing. Some successful, some not. I guess the lying about looks/career/etc. is pretty much a normal thing nowadays. I think people need to express their opinions up front about lying, in their profiles. I think the person who wants honesty and is prepared to GIVE honesty, should say that in their profile, so that people who feel the need to lie and "protect" information about themselves can steer clear. As well, I think people who feel the need to PROTECT their personal information, should say that up front. Something to the effect of "I'm leery of the online dating thing, and may feel the need to be cautious with information about myself, until a certain level of trust is earned." I'd call it honest dishonesty. LOL

The thing I don't understand is how long these people are waiting before MEETING the person. Why not spend a bit more time talking on the phone or something, to see if there is chemistry in conversation, and get a feel of that person. Then set up the blind date thing, and go from there. I would think if you've known a person via phone and email for at least a month, it wouldn't be SO BAD.

Well, let's see how the second episode goes.



Colordeagua
Member

10-25-2003

Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 6:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This week Amy makes me wanna puke.

Jennabeesmommy
Member

06-06-2004

Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 6:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't believe she dumped the rugby player. I liked him. I don't like any of the other guys anyone is going out with, though.

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 8:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess the lying about looks/career/etc. is pretty much a normal thing nowadays.

Judging by the second episode, I'd say lying wasn't just "normal" but it is the "norm".

What are people thinking? These people put up photos of themselves that are DRAMATICALLY different from what they really look like. It's actually quite disturbing.

I think people need to express their opinions up front about lying, in their profiles. I think the person who wants honesty and is prepared to GIVE honesty, should say that in their profile, so that people who feel the need to lie and "protect" information about themselves can steer clear.

Oh Eeyore, only in a perfect world! How hard is it to grasp the concept you just wrote about: you get back what you put out into the world. Judging from these women, while they might want people to believe they are in control, I think they are so desperate for a man that they don't mind being lied to.

On another note...

THIS SHOW MAKES ME CRAZY!!!

These women make me sick. I've been told women can be just as sleazy as men. I never, ever believed it until I saw this show.

Seriously, I hope that Amy chick and that (beep) Cynthia (the one who went out with the Asian guy then scurried off for a booty call) end up alone for the rest of their lives.

The photographer girl...was she drunk or high when she met up with her dates? She acted fine when she was at her apartment then came across as a total airhead with both guys.

The 2nd grade teacher wasn't too bad. But the guy she hooked up with was really icky. I'm kind of surprised she was so taken by him because he didn't seem like her type. Maybe she's not as grounded as she seemed and was in awe of the guy's financial success.

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Friday, July 22, 2005 - 12:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh noooo!!! I missed the show tonight!!!! AAAARGH!!!! And my bf is a rugby player!! I would have loved to see another rugby man on TV!!!

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Friday, July 22, 2005 - 1:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Eeyore: The "rugby player" was actually just the professional poker player. (You know, the one from last week.) After getting hot and bothered after seeing him play rugby and seeing a woman he used to be engaged to, Amy took him to meet her sister and had sex with him while they were there.

But because her sister didn't like him and Amy felt she it was getting too serious too fast, she dumped him.

Ramsfan
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01-27-2004

Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched the last half this week and was turned off by the girls and the guys.

Is Amy the one with the curly brownish hair, who was seeing a guy who bragged about shagging someone yesterday and will again tomorrow?

They were both ick!

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 3:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep. That was Amy.

I would post my thoughts about last Thursday's episode, but I'm just be repeating myself. These women continue to be absolutely despicable and ugly human beings.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 8:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Amy, in particular, is in need of therapy / psych help.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Saturday, August 06, 2005 - 3:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wish others were talking about this show so we could discuss it. I live in the polar opposite of NYC. It's either nice to know or sadly disturbing that dating isn't all that different there than in a small West Texas town.

Scorpiomoon
Member

06-06-2002

Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 2:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I would discuss it, but I have absolutely nothing positive to say about these women. With each passing episode, my disdain for each one grows and grows.

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'd be willling to discuss this show, but I only saw this weeks episode and a small part of 2 weeks ago - but I live in NYC and had tried internet dating several years ago (right before it really took off). I'll discuss my experience (if anyone is interested) another time. It wasn't bad, but I didn't go on a lot of dates.

I saw enough of the show to dislike all the women I've seen so far.

By far I dislike Amy the most.
I had a co-worker/friend that did the internet dating with seemingly the same purpose as Amy. She decided she was ready to get married, and she seriously dug into the online dating. She ultimately did get married to someone she met thru online service, but she said she went on LOTS of bad dates during that time. She would initially just meet for coffee.

The one who is who dating 2 guys (Mitchell and ?) - as Scorpiomom already said, she seems drunk or something when she goes on these dates. I also didn't like that she went to that first guys apartment when he was already making comments that lead me to believe he was looking to "shag" - and then when he started making moves on her, she still stayed for awhile and then got all upset.

The black woman - I don't get. She should totally stay away from long distance dating based on her principles (no sex and not even a kiss on the lips) because of the time she needs to really get to really know someone in person.
I don't blame that guy for getting frustrated. I forgot how long they had "been together", but they had talked a lot, spent some weekends together, and if she still wasn't ready to just kiss him on the lips (even without tongue), and she wasn't even ready to commit to not dating other people (even though it seemed she wasn't), then how long did she expect him to keep flying to visit her and devote his time to her. She couldn't even give him an idea when/if she thought they might progress.

I don't even remember the other women I saw, but I remember they all annoyed me for one reason or another. But maybe because I handle dates differently.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Sunday, August 07, 2005 - 2:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I've been watching every episode with interest. Some of the girls annoy me and some don't. Amy is an odd one. She's looking for a husband, but puts such an emphasis on sleeping with them real soon in order to get to know who they really are. That doesn't make sense to me. However, she needed to drop David as soon as she found out he was sleeping with other women and didn't see the big deal. Yuck!

The girl, who was making out with guy who was trying to undo her blouse, should have left his apartment sooner than she did. What a creep he was!! Making the comment that he wanted to see if she was that kind of girl because he doesn't want to date those kind of girls. Something like that. Jerk!

Though some of the girls act sleazy at times, I'm still more disgusted with the two guys I mentioned.