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Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, June 27, 2005 - 11:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gee, I wonder if any of our "music loves" have kids in sports and if they go overboard?!! just trying to get the thread sorta kinda back to topic!

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Tuesday, June 28, 2005 - 5:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL....we did take a rabbit trail didn't we...

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 8:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After watching last night, I do have to say that even though I realize that Trenton's dad is living what he wanted to be through his son, at least he actually hugs his child and tells him what a good job he does and boosts him up. The cheerleading mom just kills me. She wins first prize and then says, it doesn't matter. We will push it aside and go to the next thing.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 9:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You're absolutely right, Mamie. She didn't even let her daughter enjoy the victory for a moment. How sad. Every time I watch this show, it makes me feel so bad for these kids.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ewwwwwwwww....I would have wanted to slap that mom had I seen it. My question is, why do they run other shows 15 times in the same week, but I can't find any rerun of this one? I'm sure they reran the last series a bunch of times. Oh well, I guess I'm saving myself from being annoyed! :-)

Scout
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01-20-2005

Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 10:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was wondering that, too, Watching. For some reason, my VCR didn't tape last week's episode and my son was wanting to watch it. I looked through their schedule and was really surprised that they weren't showing it again!

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Thursday, June 30, 2005 - 11:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I tape this and FF thru a lot of it.

I like watching Sarah's dancing, but the mom is so annoying! I can't believe that Sarah complained about not feeling well, and her mother said, yeah, your gland does feel swollen. OK, well let's get in there and practice (paraphrasing) - not to mention last week when Sarah complained of being so tired and wanting to sleep, and complaining of stomach aches. (which we find out happens pretty regularly on Mondays) She can miss school, but heaven forbid she miss a practice.
And the mother of course keeps claiming that Sarah wants to do all of this. Reminds me of the Pagent girl's mom.

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I had to laugh at the letter Craig - I mean Trenton - wanted to write to Lloyd. Yeah, that sounded like something a kid would write. And he's only 8 yrs old!?

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I love Karli (the Equestrian) - and HATE the mom. The mom seems too self-absorbed. Actually, they're the opposite of all the other families. The mom probably is legitimate with her financial woes, but the way she handles the situations - oy!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, July 01, 2005 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sarah's mom is very annoying.

Agree that the football dad, while living his dream through his kid, so far seems very loving with him and very supportive and also gets excited about what his child is doing, instead of always harping on what he didn't do (the cheerleading mom and the iceskating mom see that way to me)

The horse mom!! I mean, she's been taking that yoga for 7 years; seems to me she could practice at home and save the cost of all those sessions. If she's right that indulging in 6 classes a week is what keeps her even-keeled, I'd hate to see her without the yoga!! ACK!

I really hate how snarky and catty she is ABOUT her daughters! Makes me almost hope that the littler kids give her some REAL rebellion to cope with.

I loved how they juxtaposed the shots of her daughters working hard, mucking out stalls with mom, princess in her yoga outfit, ms serene, snarking that her daughter thought she was the center of the world and a princess!!

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, July 01, 2005 - 1:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I had to laugh at the football dad who was already working on schmoosing a college football coach who may not even be part of that university's program in ten years! Call me evil but, I think it would be hilarious if they got the coache's attention, got the coach to notice the son's playing in Jr. Hi and stuff, and then just as the son is entering HS football, the Michigan coach has a couple of bad years at the university and get fired, and leaves on somewhat bad terms with the university!

I also was doing a slow burn on football dad handing off the daughter cause she was "talking too much" and distracting him from the son's playing. That little girl was old enough to talk, and old enough to know she had to physically grab Daddy's face to try and pull his attention to her and gain eye contact. I'm betting she was also old enough to realize in some sense she was also handed off so Daddy could focus on the "important" child in the family. I wonder just how much, if any, of Daddy's attention that poor little girl does get. Or does Daddy focus all of his time and energy on the son.

Horse mom....she does seem to be playing to the cameras a lot. Karli has called her on it a few times. That mind game she played on the girls with telling them she decided she'd let them go to Florida and participate in one more event, but darn, the event is all filled up, but wait, two people pulled out so they can go after all. When the girls asked why did she put them through that emotional roller coaster, and she said so they could experience the emotional roller coaster she has to go through....that was just wrong.

I hate how she's selling that horse just like its an inanimate object. Does she even realize (or care) that Karli has an emotional bond to this horse? If she's that bad off financially, I don't know....but how about that great big house they have? Sell it, move to something smaller, and then see how the finances are. But wait, that means she would have to change her lifestyle too, instead of just making the girls sacrifice their lifestyle. Of course, maybe the absent father owns it part way too or something.

I looked up the results of Bryce's skating at Junior Nationals. I won't say anything yet until they mention it.

Cheer mom needs to be investigated for child abuse. What she's doing to that girl borders on it IMHO.

Scout
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01-20-2005

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 8:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In some ways, the football dad bothers me the most. You can see the love that he has for his son, but to push someone to that extreme for the sole purpose of playing a sport meant to be fun, is wrong. The training they are putting that little boy through - I believe that definitely borders on abuse (as what you said about the little girl, Whoami). And he may encourage him when the cameras are going, but he still beat the boy in a foot race after that child had run up and down a mountain. That was cruel. And the way he won't let him cry, or really express any emotions except the "appropriate" ones. At eight? That guy was practically crying himself when the team nearly lost?

Cheer mom is the same to me. Draw attention to the kid and away from yourself. It's easy to say how good you were in the past - who's going to question it? But she didn't make it, and football dad didn't make it and it worries me that they use the "love" of their child to work them mercilessly. I just can't help wondering each and every time I watch this, what happens to the "love" when the child does not live up to the parents' expectations. Because, let's face it, who could ever live up to what they're expecting?

I think this dad is using his son for an excuse - not to have to put himself on the line in a job or in life. By having the four part-time jobs, he makes himself out to be a hero, this way. Not someone who possbily cannot handle the pressures of a steady full-time job. By always drawing attention to his sacrifices, no one will ever question his own abilities.

Agree that horse mom has a lot of problems. Sometimes, when you look at her eyes, she definitely looks like she's on something. Her erratic behavior kind of suggests that, too.

I find ice-skating boy so obnoxious that I almost root for him to lose. He's the most immature teen I've ever seen. "Watch me, Mom!", "Don't watch me, Mom", "Coach, she won't watch me". I must say his coach has the patience of a saint.



Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, July 02, 2005 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL.. coach is being well-paid to be a saint.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 2:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I thought football dad and mom were pretty ok tonight. Ice Skating mom is snarky; kid needs some more motivation or he should quit..

Cheerleading mom was a bit less obnoxious and I had to agree with the girl's brother.. her competitor totally copied her outfit.. snort!

Basketball mom was over the top tonight.

Horse mom was, uh.. well.. a real piece of work.



Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't agree with skating mom's tone, but I can understand her sentiment. It's hard when your kid is in an expensive and time consuming sport and you feel they aren't really trying. It's one thing if they aren't that good, but when they don't put forth the effort to even try.......why should I be wasting my time and money supporting it?

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 8:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just have no sympathy for Skater mom. Her son doesn't make it. He screwed up royally, that's true, but when he comes to you almost in tears, sitting next to you telling you he didn't make it, don't just friggin sit there! Hug your child! I want to see some love for the kids!

Basketball mom is someone I would not want coaching my children. Let's push our daughter with the fever of 102!

Horse mom is just flighty.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 11:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes, I'm with Mamie.. the mom is all about herself and her feelings.. she needed to suck it up and WATCH him skate, support the son, support her mother, who did watch. If she was supportive all along then he might listen to her valid criticisms, but all she does is snark at him, so she isn't a source of comfort. The coach did a better job of stressing the positive but being honest that she was worried and that there was a reason for her worry.

What is amazing about horse mom is her "narrative" which is almost always run over video that directly contradicts what she is saying!

I love her telling the daughters not to be "the mom" (as in not enlisting the little boys into helping with work, such as folding laundry) when it is clear that she all too often expects her daughters to play EXACTLy that role with the brothers and with their own activities.. the daughters seem substantially more reliable than mom..

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, July 07, 2005 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And when the boy said that he was going to sit and watch the other skaters on the tape, the mom says You're going to watch all the ones that were better than you! Way to be supportive. Her little speech about how she didn't baby or coddle her children, she told them exactly how it was, that's the real world, was too much!

Bandit17
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07-13-2005

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hi, folks. I was curious as to what other people thought of the Sportskids. Your comments are very interesting. Here are some of my thoughts.

I just finished my 2nd year of college. I've been playing football since 7th grade. I enjoy other sports (especially martial arts) as well.

I absolutely HATE Craig the "Football Dad." I've seen guys like him before -- but he's worse than any I've ever encountered personally. Some of you have mentioned that he hugs his son often, but we haven't seen Trenton drop a pass or blow a tackle yet, have we? If that happens, it will be an ugly sight, I guarantee it! Trenton seems like a really nice kid, but he's being bullied by the old man. The happiest Trenton has looked on this show was when he was sitting on his bed playing his recorder -- and his dad was nowhere in sight! Why does Trenton sporadically burst into tears? Probably because he's scared to death of failing. No 8-year-old should be made to feel like his future will be destroyed if he doesn't win a footrace.

Also, speaking as a long-time athlete, let me assure you that a little kid should not be slamming his knees running up and down concrete stairs. College and pro athletes do that, but they are grown men. Trenton is still growing, and his joints will be in rough shape by the time he hits puberty. Many kid athletes suffer from Osgood-Schlatter Syndrome and other growing pains around the age of 12 that can put them out of commission for an entire season. If you know a young athlete who wants to build up endurance, the best activity for doing this is SWIMMING. It builds up the lungs, works almost all the athletic muscles in the body, and does not lead to tendon tears or sore joints. Swim training greatly helped me build up my endurance throughout middle and high school -- and I'm not a very fast swimmer. I highly recommend it.

Oh, one other thing: Perhaps I misunderstood what Craig had said (someone let me know if I did), but he had better not plan on adding Creatin to Trenton's diet any time in the future. Creatin is a performance enhancement substance that is banned in most high school and college football programs. It is also banned in the NFL and the Olympics. The only sport that allows it is Major League Baseball -- and they allow everything.


Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 7:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the insight Bandit!

Great conversations last night between cheerleader mom and daughter, or cheerleader mom and herself.

Mom: "She's suffering from exhaustion, it's too much. I am worried about her.......Practice harder! We are just going to have to push harder!"

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, July 14, 2005 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hopefully, the football dad did learn from this show.. as I recall, when they were on Oprah, he was one who seemed to have grown a bit, unlike cheerleading mom!

Thanks for your input Bandit17!!

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Thursday, July 21, 2005 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Did anyone watch the finale?

I was sickened (even more than before) with the Karli's (Equestrian) mom. Her talk at the end left me scratching my head.

The mom always seemed to want us to believe that she was sacrificing so much (IMO)- yet she always seemed to be doing her thing (working a lot, yoga several times a week).

Then at the end she talks about how now that they don't have the horse, they have more time to spend as a family. But now that they have a live-in nanny, she's going to take off for 2 months to go to a yoga retreat.

And at the very end it says she took out a 3rd mortgage on the house for her vacation, and Disco hasn't been sold yet. Ugh.

Karli seemed like a great girl and hope she doesn't end up really damaged by all this.

At least the rest of the parents seemed to turn out better in the end.


Whoami
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08-03-2001

Friday, July 22, 2005 - 2:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
In the end, I am most sickened by the Horse Mom than any of the other parents.

Part of her "oh woe is me I've made so many sacrifices and suffered so many hardships for my ungrateful children" reminds me a lot of the stuff my grandmother used to pull on my mom.

I can also relate big time to Karli....having something that you love so much...not just the horse (which wasn't the case for me), but the lifestyle, and the very essence of what was molding you into the person you are, or could become. Taken away from you by someone ignorant to how deeply and profoundly it means the world to you. I know it brought up a lot of old wounds for me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, July 22, 2005 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I couldn't believe that she was going off for 2 months!!!!!!!

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Friday, July 22, 2005 - 10:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Horse Mom is insufferably self-centered in her actions, which almost always contradict her words.

Her daughter was indeed a dedicated and talented horsewoman and could share that with her sister and she puts the horse up for sale (the horse being expensive but a very positive feature in their lives). If she was destitute, she couldn't just take ANOTHER mortgage and fly off for two months and pay a nanny salary to boot.

The older daughter seemed so sad that her sister would now be left to be the "mother" when she went off to college.

This mother seems to have a great family of children and to want to escape it all.

And despite all the flaws, ALL of the other parents, even when living through their kids did seem to love them.

I liked that basketball mom and daughter both realized that having mom as coach opened up some challenges but each seemed to appreciate the other as a mom/daughter AND as a coach/teammate.

Sandra
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07-06-2004

Monday, July 25, 2005 - 7:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Saying good by to Disco made me cry...and that mother wow!! Whats up with her? We are so poor but off I go for two months etc.! I wish someone would buy Disco and give it back to Karli. The good-bye killed me :-(

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Monday, July 25, 2005 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm glad I missed this episode. Having been in the horse show world, I know how attached you get, not only to the horse but to an activity that creates great self esteem, self discipline and real joy. I hope that Karli goes off to a college that has a great equestrian program where she can continue to ride and grow in her skills. That mom's behavior seems incredibly selfish to me. The only saving grace is maybe she'll learn not to be so self-involved at her retreat. Maybe.