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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - 7:17 pm
Just to report on the aftermath of the Contender finale at our house. This morning my hubby lifted up his shirt and showed me the scratches across his tummy. Apparently, when my boy Alfonso Gomez won his bout, I yelled so loud that the two cats went scattering so fast that one of them scratched hubby in the process. The other jumped about 15 feet without touching anything! Oops. You might say I got a little too excited.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 1:07 am
I watched the fights. Even two of the fights that were FAN PICKS on Yahoo Livecam. Anthony gave me the creeps with his continuous crowing about being the best dad. I hated that Live Fight. Anthony seemed to be fighting dirty and when he actually FLIPPED Ishe over his shoulder WOW!! Surely that would be penalty points? Jesse was a finesse fighter and Gomez pounded the crap out of him. Jesse looked tired by round two. I thought Sergio would win this comp. He was more of a streetfighter than true boxer and WOW is he a fast puncher. Manfredo was exhausted and all that HUGGING was ridiculous. I've watched fights and never seen so much holding. The ref kept trying to break it up but wouldnt enforce it. Manfredo was so tired I figure he was resting his head by leaning in the MIDDLE of Sergio's chest. Hard to be hit in that position. All in ALL TOOOOOOOO MUCH BLABBING and rehash of the show before the fights. The crowd was there to see a fight not get a 2 hr long rehash episode. I still liked this show though. The ability to make it to final two was all in the person's OWN hands...not a popularity contest or vote.
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 7:02 am
I just watched Sergio on Regis and Kelly. What a funny bit they did! Sergio seemed really relaxed and natural. Kelly was all excited about meeting him ... she is a real fight fan and had seen every match ... and she loved the name The Latin Snake. She gave Regis the name The Irish Worm. Sergio said the makeup people had offered to make his eye look better, but he said, hey, I'm a fighter ... no makeup! Sergio said his career is in Mark Burnett's hands, and he's available for a fight with Alfonso. He said he had been about a 20 to 1 favorite to win. He'll be doing commentary on the Friday Night Fights and he was really pleased with that. They asked Sergio to show off his moves, which he did, but whenever he relaxed and went back to talking to Kelly, Regis would give him a jab ... that Regis is quick! Then they put up a heavy bag, and asked Sergio to hit it while Kelly held on to the back of the bag ... to judge Sergio's punch compared to Regis's. Regis was gone for a minute, and then he came out in a satin boxer's robe with The Irish Worm pinned on the back. What a hoot! Sergio said he hasn't done anything yet about a house for his mother ... he's moving slowly, not planning to spend all his money on cars and houses like most other fighters. So, I guess now I'll be watching the Friday Night Fights! Love that Sergio!
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:40 am
Sergio will be on The Today Show tomorrow morning (Friday). I'm sure it won't be as fun as Regis & Kelly, but hopefully Matt Lauer will be doing the interview. After watching the live finale, at the end when they showed the highlights of the "Fan's Favorites" fights - you could clearly see Ishe's had did say "I'm the #1 dad" 
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 10:59 am
It's interesting where the Contenders rank now. A few weeks ago, Jesse ranked the highest (was it 7?) for the US American Middleweight Ratings (according to BoxRec). Now (in the top 50): 6 - Serio Mora 8 - Ishe Smith 10 - Jesse Brinkley 11 - Peter Manfredo Jr 27 - Anthony Bosante 31 - Joey Gilbert 39 - Jimmy Lange 42 - Jonathan Reid I don't get how they determine the ratings. It looks like it goes by points. So the fact that Jonathan had the most fights - 33 - and only 2 losses, he ranked the lowest of them all. (Jesse had 25 fights and 3 losses) So does that mean what really matters is how many hits actually connect during the fights? How does a "knock-out" count? Is it worth a certain amount of points? I mean if someone gets knocked-out in the 2nd round, the winner wouldn't have had as many rounds to gain points. I'm so confused! 
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 11:41 am
Can the ranking have something to do with their age? I think I remember that Jonathan Reid was quite a bit older? Not sure of that. Oh hmmmm ... when I went to the BoxRec link just now, Sergio was ranked 8th, (for middleweights), Ishe 16th, and Alfonso 23rd. Jesse is 25th, Peter 27th, and the others are off the chart. Luv, they must've reworked the chart between when you were there and when I stopped by! I wonder if the other Mora on the list is related to Sergio? Thanks for the heads-up about Sergio on The Today Show.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 11:54 am
Hootyhoot - I believe the ranks you viewed were for World. I gave the rankings for US American only. Interesting. I didn't even notice that Alfonso wasn't on my list. When I checked "World" ranking, he is listed as Mexican, so he isn't included in the "US American" rank list.
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 11:57 am
Sergio is so cute! He was great on Regis & Kelly. Regis cracked me up how he kept sneaking in little jabs whenever Sergio wasn't paying attention. 
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 3:16 pm
Ah, Luv, so many things to learn in order to be a boxing fan! Thanks for clueing me in!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, May 26, 2005 - 8:00 pm
Ryan Opray from Survivor posted this over at the fishbowl:
quote:My buddy Adam(producer) who works for Burnett on past Survivors now with the contender needs our help!! http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?wato Sign this petition to have the contender on NBC again. Pass it on people RYNO
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 4:26 am
The Latin Snake was on the Today in New York at 6:50am ET. I had thought when I heard the promo it said "The Today Show" But at least the interviewer was a big fan of his. I'm a little disappointed by this because The Apprentice interviews were always done on The Today Show - usually by Katie Curic or Matt Lauer. I'm hoping that maybe Sergio will be jumping over to The Today Show studio and be interviewing there as well - but I doubt it. But maybe he'll appear on "the plaza"? I'm taping it just in case. I'm sorry I missed that Regis & Kelly show. Anyway, nothing spectacular about the interview - except for one thing I hadn't heard yet: She asked him how much money he will end up getting out of the million. He said, "well, I got incorporated a couple of days before I got the check, hopefully I should be looking at about 700,000." She also asked him about the trash talking during the fight - "there was a little trash talking in the ring - on your part, and we were kind of wondering what was going on ?". Sergio was like "What are your talking about? That's the Latin Snake. Sergio Mora is here. I have no idea what you're talking about". They laughed. He said that 10 million watched the fight which is double the success of any pay-per-view fight in history.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 5:56 am
It may NOT be over!! The Contender may move to ESPN. The Contender isn't knocked out yet. Executive producer Mark Burnett, who has previously said that this is "my favorite work of my career," told reporters after the finale, "I've never had such pats on the back as I've had for 'The Contender.' I'm totally committed to it. If NBC doesn't want to do it, we'll go somewhere else. ... The public wants more of these guys and our job is to provide it to them." Burnett said that NBC is keeping lame series like "Joey" because of syndication. "It's all about money. Those (other) programs can make a lot of money for NBC in the future," he said. And a move to a new network is already in the works. That network: ESPN. According to the Orange County Register, hosts "[Sylverster] Stallone and [Sugar Ray] Leonard are in negotiations with ESPN for a second season of the program." http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/the_contender/2005_May_27_burnett_nbc
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 9:12 am
I think The Contender and ESPN are a perfect fit! This is the only reality program that my hubby watched and enjoyed. (Although I enjoyed it more just because I get more emotionally involved than he does.) Hopefully a move to ESPN will also remove those scenes with the children at ringside.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 9:39 am
that's great news! Hopefully they've read feedback on message boards (& hopefully e-mails) and got the message that fans weren't too happy seeing children present at the fights. I also look forward to whatever they do with future Contender Championship bouts. Now I would probably watch any fight that most of these guys would be involved in. If I never have to see Anthony and his #1 Dad hat again, I'll be very happy. Besides the fact that with his dirty boxing, he doesn't belong in a ring. I think he's proven he doesn't have what it takes.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 9:59 am
Also, I heard Sergio say on Regis and Kelly that (paraphrasing) "America has fallen in love with these guys. Alfonso is like America's sweetheart. He is like the little engine that could. And that he would be glad to have a match with him. Also he said that he would be willing to give Peter a rematch...but whatever Mark Burnett wants him to do, he will be do...because he has the say for the next few years."
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 10:39 am
I'd like to see the show continue on any network but I think I'd prefer to see different boxers (different weight classes?) each season.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 2:52 pm
Don't forget y'all to sign the petition and put those comments in
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Hootyhoot
Member
12-18-2001
| Friday, May 27, 2005 - 7:34 pm
Sergio was interviewed at length on the Friday Night Fights ... he presents himself very well ... he's going to do well for himself and for the sport of boxing. They showed a great clip from the Regis & Kelly show.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 1:09 pm
When looking at rankings, there are a lot of factors to consider. Not just won-loss record, but who did they beat (and to whom did they lose), the weight class (remember, Alfonso had to gain weight to fight in the Contender). 'squeek'
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 1:45 pm
Contender renewal, rematch fight both may be announced this week Although The Contender is not on NBC's fall schedule, it hasn't been officially cancelled. According to the New York Times, "An NBC spokeswoman said that while it did not have the show on its fall lineup, the network had not passed on 'The Contender' altogether." Producer Mark Burnett confirmed "that if NBC was not interested, a cable channel was a possibility." That cable channel reportedly is ESPN. Regardless, it's "highly likely" that a renewal will be announced sometime this week. Meanwhile, what was up with Sly and Sugar Ray constantly talking about a rematch while the final fight was still going on? While Peter and Sergio were fighting, Sly said, "I know the fight's not even over yet, but I gotta start thinking about a rematch." Burnett says "it was just natural exuberance from Sly and Ray -- the fight was so close." The paper reports that "he expected to announce another fight this week and that a rematch of the two fighters is a strong possibility." The Providence Journal notes rumors "that a Contender tournament is being planned for July 5 in Las Vegas featuring the four finalists on the show -- Manfredo, Mora, Alfonso Gomez and Jesse Brinkley." Peter Manfredo Sr. "hadn't heard anything from either NBC or Mark Burnett ... [but] thought that July 5 was too soon for his son to get back in the ring," the paper reports. link
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Thursday, June 23, 2005 - 11:25 am
Sergio Update! Just got this email: For those who are interested, I'm on the cover of this month's RING magazine. There's a cool cover story on The Contender and on the front picture of the cover story is a picture of me and my mom. Me and my mom on the cover of the biggest boxing magazine... how crazy is that?!? Thank you for supporting me throughout the show and I hope you'll keep supporting me through the rest of my career. My next fight is still pending, but it looks like it might be in August. My opponent, well, the public demands Alfonso Gomez. And it's the fans that made us who we are. It will be a great fight!!! - Sergio Mora http://www.SergioMoraBoxing.com
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 6:32 am
Someone sounds like he needs a time out: PRESS RELEASE: Ahmed Kaddour, better known as "Baby Face" from the since-canceled NBC reality series, "The Contender," will fight for the first time since losing twice on the show when he fights an eight-rounder against an opponent to be named on July 22 at the Chumash Casino Resort in Santa Ynez, Calif., on Showtime's SHOBox (11 PM ET/PT). Kaddour (18-2, 9 KOs) remains colorful and outspoken and said he's excited to be fighting again. He hasn't fought since his last fight on "The Contender" on Sept. 1. Kaddour said he felt used by "The Contender," said he wants nothing to do with Hollywood and ripped Las Vegan Ishe Smith, with whom he developed a fierce rivalry on the show. "I might have lost, but it made me wake up to the light and see what Hollywood is all about," Kaddour said. "It's all bull. It's nothing but fake. So many different people took advantage of me, or they tried to. They promised me this and promised me that, but it was all bull. I got to know Sly (Stallone) and Sugar Ray Leonard, but so what? They're not paying my bills. "There are a lot of rude and mean people in Los Angeles. I don't want to be there again any more, not unless I have to." Kaddour said the show was edited poorly and didn't portray the fights accurately. In addition, he said producers intentionally tried to make him look like a bad guy, even though he charged that Smith initiated much of the controversy between the two. He was clear that he hasn't forgiven Smith, who won a unanimous five-round decision over him. "If I saw him on the street today, I'd kill him," Kaddour said. "Well, I wouldn't kill him, because I wouldn't want to waste my time. But I'd rip his lungs out. I hate the guy. He knows what I'd do to him. That's why he won't come near me." http://www.boxingtalk.net/pages/free4321.htm
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 7:11 am
Yeah, yeah. Sour grapes, a bad temper, and a huge ego all combine to make one very unpleasant pretty boy. Toss in a healthy dose of testosterone and you get a pretty boy with a bad attitude and a few punches to back it up. WOnder if his girlfriend is still sticking with him? I think Ishe and Ahmad both looked bad on the show and I don't think the editing had a darned thing to do with it.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 11:09 am
How do you rip someone's lungs out without killing them? Silly boy. Does he really think he can convince anyone that Ishe is afraid of him?
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Tuesday, July 05, 2005 - 6:52 pm
Its usually insecure little boys that have to talk so big. Nobody has to TRY to make him look bad, he's got it in the bag all by himself.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 9:11 am
ESPN could be a 'Contender' ESPN confirmed Monday that it was close to acquiring the rights for a second season of "The Contender," the Mark Burnett-Sylvester Stallone boxing reality series that ran on NBC last season. It was unclear whether Stallone would work on a second season of "The Contender" if it is acquired by ESPN. Some details remain to be worked out, the network said. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr/television/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000980986
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 11:16 am
*Fingers crossed*...Who needs Stallone? The show wasn't about him. It was those boxers America fell in love with.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 11:52 am
I just hope ESPN doesn't try to do it on the cheap. Their TV movies and other non-sports shows have an unprofessional quality about them....looks like they are trying to fill air time instead of put out a quality product. They can get rid of some of the ancillary stuff and make it more sports-oriented, though.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Friday, August 12, 2005 - 5:10 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050812/en_nm/contender_dc 'Contender' gets another shot at ESPN By Paul J. Gough Fri Aug 12, 1:06 PM ET NEW YORK (Hollywood Reporter) - ESPN hopes to deliver a knockout punch in the ratings with a cable version of "The Contender," the boxing reality series that got roughed up while on NBC. Twelve hour-long episodes will begin in April on the sports cable giant; the last episode will be live. Three two-hour specials with a boxing theme will start on ESPN beginning October 15. Sylvester Stallone and former boxer Sugar Ray Leonard, the stars of the NBC version, will remain with the show in some form, but it's all but certain that they won't be on as much. "It'll be a limited involvement but definitely a presence," said Will Staeger, executive producer of ESPN Original Entertainment. Stallone will executive produce with Mark Burnett ("Survivor") and DreamWorks principal Jeffrey Katzenberg. Staeger said that much of its structure -- including the 16 boxers -- will remain the same, but the show will become a little more sports-centric because it will be on ESPN. Reuters/Hollywood Reporter
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Brgirl
Member
08-21-2005
| Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 6:33 pm
Does anyone else know that The Contender show is having a rematch between Mora and Manfredo at the Staples Center Oct. 15? My friend just told me, saying tickets were going on sale tomorrow on Ticketmaster... Anyone else going? Who's your picks? I'm feeling Mora for sure.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 9:17 pm
Got this in email: Saturday, October 15, 2005 11PM ET/ 8PM PT on ESPN Sponsored by Toyota MORA VS. MANFREDO THE REMATCH IS ON TICKETS ON SALE THIS SUNDAY, AUGUST 21 It's the news you've been waiting for, The Contender champion Sergio "The Latin Snake" Mora will be defending his Contender belt against rival Peter "The Pride of Providence" Manfredo Jr., whom he last defeated in May. This highly anticipated rematch will take place in Mora's hometown in Los Angeles at the Staples Center on Saturday, October 15th. The undercard will feature the exciting match-ups of Alfonso "Superman" Gomez vs. Jeff "The Hell Raza" Fraza, Anthony Bonsante vs. Jesse Brinkley and more to be announced. ESPN will air the event live at 8:00PM (PST) / 11:00pm (EST).
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Brgirl
Member
08-21-2005
| Monday, August 22, 2005 - 1:25 pm
where'd you get the e-mail? my friend just told me by chance and she read it off the MySpace page. anyway, does anyone have any picks for the fight? i think i'll bet on mora.. but i really like manfredo. we'll see
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, August 22, 2005 - 2:14 pm
I would've much rather seen Mora vs. Gomez. Ah, well.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 1:15 am
I received the e-mail too. I had signed up for Yahoo alerts.
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