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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Monday, April 04, 2005 - 4:15 pm
It's a more fair matchup if the 2 weakest fight each other. Seems that if they fight others, they will both go home. But it's not so much what they think, but what they all might decide are fair matchups amongst each other. Anthony obviously didn't go along with the "plan". Jimmy "said" he was mad because he was mentally preparing to fight and it was a big let down to find out otherwise. And all the while Anthony was mentally preparing to fight someone else. But, all of the boxers are there and should be ready at any time to fight, so there should be no excuses or expectations. But Anthony did take the easier way out. That's an interesting question Sassy. I'll have to watch it again on CNBC this week to see if I can catch it. I guess I missed it when they "agreed" to who would fight who.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, April 04, 2005 - 6:26 pm
Ishe is the bully who is telling everyone WHO their match should be. I LOVED Anthony picking his OWN opponent. The press conference was great when Anthony said that ISHE was not his manager and had NO BUSINESS telling him who he HAD to fight. ROTFL!! I didnt think that Jimmy should have reacted the way he did. THIS was a contest and it is complete silliness to have it all figured out who should fight whom. They are all Contenders and ALL should be able to fight each other due to the Lightweight/middleweight category. But, all of the boxers are there and should be ready at any time to fight, so there should be no excuses or expectations. Definitely!! But I dont agree that Anthony took the easy road...it is going to get really hard for him now. The other guys are P*ssed OFF! On a final note, I am a Christian but I detest hearing these guys go on and on about God picking them to be there...They know they are going to win cause God is on their side etc. Maybe He lost the fight because God is telling Brent that it is unChristian to beat the crap out of someone for 'the love of Money' ?? JUst my opinion
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Sweetbabygirl
Member
08-31-2002
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 7:39 am
And an excellent one at that, Sunshiny....I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 8:46 am
I didn't see Anthony's choice as being the coward's way out at all. The rest of the Contenders should just better suck it up and get over it. He is entitled to make his own decision. And if Brent was the weaker man, why did everyone seem to think that Anthony was toast before it even began. Brent appeared in his sparring to be pretty quick and light on his feet. Frankly from the ferocity that Anthony appeared to fight with I think he would have pummeled Jimmy as well or anyone else he would have been up against. jmo
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 1:30 pm
Anthony DID take the cowardly road for this fight. He said that he has trouble fighting guys who were a little taller and lankier like Jimmy, so he was therefore fearful of fighting him because he was scared that he'd get pummeled. So, he decided to pick someone he could pummel himself. Brent may have looked quick but he has no endurance - which I already stated. Anthony did however make it a harder road for his next fight, as they all know he took the easier road and he won't get the same respect as the others have gotten. The others have either taken a higher road (Alphonzo, Najai) or a more even road. Anthony has taken the lowest - so far.
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Kritofer
Member
10-26-2004
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 2:29 pm
The more I think about it, coward is too strong a word to use in this situation. Nobody's really a coward when they get in the ring and box. So, I'll just go by Anthony's own words, although, to me, picking the easier fight at this juncture leans more toward the cowardly side (to me). Whenever Anthony was defending himself, to the viewing audience, the cameras, or what have you, he said it was best "for his family". Not so much for himself, or the team, as he would probably go gung-ho or big like most of the West has but risking the chance of losing. He was thinking about his family, and the million dollars, and picked a fight that he knew he had the good chance of winning. I'm glad that he didn't pick what the West "ordered" him to pick, especially since Ishe initiated it and he has been the most irksome person on this show. But he chose to fight a fight he knew he could win in thinking of his family first, self or team second.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:01 pm
IMO This isn't a team sport and if you don't look out for #1 who will. I wouldn't listen to someone who has already made it to the top 8 either - maybe they were trying to line up fights to eliminate some stronger competitors to benefit them later on.... Who knows. I didn't see the show (darn it) but if it's my butt on the line then I am going to make the decision I am most confident in not the one some else is trying to force on me. Maybe he's not one of the strongest fighters but if he did this show to help his boxing career then to me it makes sense to ensure your around as long as you can be to get your name/skills out there!! I agree Kritofer - you can't call someone willing to even step in that ring a coward!
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:02 pm
I forgot I was going to add to - those who think he took the easy road - what about the fighters who when asked to vote a fighter back in voted for the weakest of the most deserving - easy road??
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 3:12 pm
you think Manfredo was the weakest one? The man is world ranked.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 4:27 pm
Show is being done in Las Vegas....Ishe is the local fighter in Las Vegas. There has been a few things that seem to be producer manipulated. For instance, the vote to bring back someone seemed suspect. If you really wanted to win a Competition you would NEVER vote Manfredo back in due to his strength. Also suspect is Ishe as he seems to be in the middle of almost everything, almost like he has been told to stir things up. Last night I finally figured out what I really LIKE about this show. FINALLY a reality show where your teammates DONT vote you out. Anthony has now shown that even though ALL the others are against you-- Winning and staying in the game is a likelyhood. The others can challenge him every week if they want, if he keeps winning they cant do a thing about it. I like that the others dont hold the key as to who will stay and who will go. Big Brother has become SOOOOO predictable since the public doesnt vote. American and Canadian Idol are very popular shows with Millions of calls each week...there are no people screaming that it is all rigged, yet that is what happened with BigBrother. Anyways, I LIKE the Contender as these guys have control over their gameplay!!
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 6:40 pm
Have to agree that Anthony did the smart thing for his chances at winning the big cash. What some of you may not know about the boxer he chose to fight and boxing fans who follow fighters and their records did is that Brent was world ranked with a padded record of 22 wins. Over 8 of his victories were against fighters in their very first pro fight and the majority of his other fights were against journeyman fighters with losing records. Since they and Anthony knew this and he chose to fight him before someone else did is why the west team was pissed. Ishe forgot about his little situation a few weeks ago against Ahmed so his little comments were for the camera. Tsk.Tsk.. Keep watching there will be some really good matches coming up soon.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 9:40 pm
actually, the show was taped in Pasadena, Calif. It is just the final bout that will be done in Las Vegas - looks like Caesar's Palace. 'squeek'
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 12:52 am
REALLY Kona?? Thx for the info. Because they are always showing Vegas and Vegas celebrities at the Matches I figured it WAS IN VEGAS! James Caan is usually in the audience it seems.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 9:46 am
Ladytex "you think Manfredo was the weakest one? The man is world ranked. No I was referring to the ones who voted for Jonathon - thinking back to the 2 guys on the bench after Peter's fight/victory saying we just voted in a tiger and the other guys says not me I voted for Jonathon. 4 guys voted for the weakest fighter - probably same guys that are so upset that Anthonty picked Brent.
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:34 am
Actually the weakest of the three they had to choose from was Ahmed, not Jonathan. But I do think that Ishe voted to bring Jonathan back. I don't think it had anything to do with him being weaker than Manfredo though, I think it was because he really liked Jonathan. I think Alonzo voted to bring Jonathan back too, probaly because he was the one to send Manfredo home. I don't know who the other two votes would have come from.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 10:51 am
I don't think they thought of Reid Dawg as the weakest. In fact the show he left, you heard a few of them talking about how strong he was, and he was undefeated before the show.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:17 am
I finally got to see the show last night. I am very proud of of Anthony for the way he played. First, he didn't show his hand so that his teammates would go all out and win the challenge, then he selected his own opponent as his right. Don't like it? Tough. Challenge him when you get the chance. But be warned, he's doing this for his kids. It's not going to be an easy fight. You saw what he just did. Geez, who do these guys think they are. They get to pick their own opponents and then tell the others who they get to fight? Yeah, right. That's gonna work. Good going Anthony.
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:22 am
I heartily agree, Mary.
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Sassynegal
Member
01-21-2005
| Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:33 am
I couldn't have said it better myself MARY! 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 2:48 pm
He "played" the game and won. Hopefully Anthony has some resilience as he may be chosen to fight AGAIN next challenge.
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Kimmy_1
Member
05-12-2004
| Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:21 am
Sunshyne.....I think that once they win their "gloves" they dont have to fight until the next round. That is my understanding, but I could be wrong. Anyone else know?
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 08, 2005 - 8:06 am
I think you're right Kimmy. At least that's my understanding. So Anthony is safe until after the other's have had their first round fights. With so many of the west making it through to round two, they were going to have to fight each other anyway...so no big deal. This is going to be increasingly more intense as time goes on...as if it wasn't intense enough already, but we will be more invested in these guys. But I really like the idea of a reality show where you are in charge of your own destiny, and on your own merits and don't have to rely on a popularity contest.
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Sunday, April 10, 2005 - 11:48 pm
Anyone watch tonight? What I saw was definitely a FIGHT, not boxing. THese guys definitely can take a punch, that's for sure. And the guy who lost tonight has one heckuva beautiful wife and daughter!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, April 11, 2005 - 6:55 am
That was definitely a fight, lol. You think that Juan is too young, and then you remember that he's been fighting professionally in Mexico for three years, and Tarick hasn't had a fight in a couple of years. The rust showed. Glad the East finally won another fight. Next week should be good, too.
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Metoo
Member
02-22-2005
| Monday, April 11, 2005 - 7:31 am
WOW - was I surprised at how well Juan fought. We missed watching the beginning of last nights show but recorded it and we came home just when the fight was starting. I am impressed with that kid but his inexperiance showed through at times.
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