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Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 3:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No one handles parenting perfectly, no matter how hard you try, your kids are gonna be a little neurotic when they grow up, and some of it *is* your fault.

But basic personality is pretty hard-wired, whether you are timid or outgoing, nerdy or athletic, etc. Usually experience can influence personality, but not make major changes. Major changes are generally only made by major experiences. All of that just means the science agrees with Lilfair's observations.

Some kids are just so easy-going that the idea that they are adopted won't phase 'em. And some kids look at it more deeply and have to find their own way through it, no matter how warm and devoted their parents are.

Of course, how the parents talk about it - whether they are open or hide it, etc, also has influence, but personality may have more of an influence in spite of your best attempts.

Most studies show that personality is so hard-wired that childhood personality is *highly* predictive of adult personality, and is incredibly and sometimes disconcertingly stable.



Rabbit
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 3:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bob perhaps Mocha was merely making a statement of vocation rather than a comment about a stated opinion.

What do you do on the internet Mocha?
"I disagree"

What do you do on the internet Rabbit?
"I smartass"

What do you do on the internet Bob?


Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 4:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lmao!

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 5:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
hahaha

Scout
Member

01-20-2005

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Scorpiomoon said, " If these parents (or any adopting parents) specifically tell their children they are special and welcomed and loved and did so repeatedly (and back up their words with actions), unless the child is seriously neurotic, there will come a moment when they will trust what they are hearing--believe what they are hearing--and feel positive about it."

I don't see how you can "disagree" with Max about this. She (a person who has experienced this) has told you her perceptions and how she feels. She has been from a loving family who did the things you said and yet still feels abandonment issues. I don't think there is anything neurotic and I applaud her honesty with sharing those feelings.

I do not agree that there is always a root and an explanation for perceptions and feelings. If that were true, how come there are irrational fears?




Max
Member

08-12-2000

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 6:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We all have our issues. Acknowledging them is the first step in learning to deal with them in an effective manner. :-)

Bob2112
Member

06-12-2002

Wednesday, March 16, 2005 - 9:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What do you do on the internet Bob?
"Pretty much the same as Rabbit"


Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what blew my mind on that particular show is that the twin was filmed suffocating her brother to the point that he wet himself. I noticed that the girl didn't stop until the boy was still. You could see the boys struggling then stopping, and the girl still forcing the pillow down over his face. I can't believe no one interfered....they just filmed it.

How far will the film crew take the "non-interference" issue? I think they (the producers) were very lucky here because that whole incident could have ended tragically.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, Kep, that was very bad taste for them to film the twin suffocating the brother. My heart hurts when I think about how these things do happen in families.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, and think of how many moms would just punish the boy for wetting his pants.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i couldn't believe the mom just told him to go change his wet pants. if someone is suffocated to where they wet themselves, they are very close to passing out or even death. he had quit struggling...
it probably wasn't the first time the girl did it, either. all the screaming and being brats didn't bother me at all compared to how dangerously this boy was treated.
i had thought they would make more of this horrid situation. hopefully, when the parents saw the tape, they were made aware of just how bad it was.

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i also wonder about all the times i have seen this show and the other nanny one and the kids are playing with outside toys inside. tricycles and baseball bats, soccer balls, etc...
i know it was cold and snowy in connecticut, but take the kids to a gym or roller rink or go sledding or make snow angels or something to get the yaya's out. probably being trapped inside doesn't help at all!
in all of these shows with young children in them, i have never seen--or heard suggested--that the pre-school age children go to pre-school or a play group 2 or 3 mornings a week. some of these mothers have never been separated from their kids for more than a few minutes. at the least, i would join a mother's group to meet in the park or at a mcdonald's with a playground or something for the kids to socialize with other kids and for the mothers to be with other mothers.

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought it was odd for her to tell him to change his clothes without her wiping his bum off first. Eww.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think he pooped...

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Thursday, March 17, 2005 - 11:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
He pee'd on himself though. That requires cleaning.

Happymom
Member

01-20-2003

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
At the time when the mom told the boy to go change his clothes, I don't think the mom knew what had happened at that point. I think she just asked him what was wrong and the boy said _____________ (girl's name) was fighting me and she made me go potty. The mom hugged him and told him to change and that she was going to get or talk to __________ (girl's name).

I know she eventually found out. It really bothered me that they barely showed anyone dealing with the severity of that situation. There should have been a lot of talking about that with all the kids and especially the boy who was smothered and the sister who did it.

I agree that many of these kids and moms on these shows seem to have cabin fever, but I also think that maybe it's just easier to film and capture the behavior (of the kids and parents) that nanny is there to address when they are at home. I know my kids are all angels when out of the house! At home it's a different story sometimes!

Puzzled
Member

08-27-2001

Friday, March 18, 2005 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am a firm believer in getting kids outdoors as much as possible--for fresh air, excercise, and working off all their excess energy.

HOWEVER, getting four pre-schoolers dressed in boots, mittens, hats, and snowsuits is more than most humans could face by themselves.

First, you have to get the ones who are potty-trained to go to the bathroom. Then, as you're dressing them, the others are impatient to go out and going nuts.

If you finally get them all dressed and outside, in about 10 minutes, you can guess that one of them has to go potty. Aaaargh. Then you have to drag them all in, undress the kid, on and on--well, you get the idea.

This mother desperately needed help or to put some of them in day care, even if only two days a week.

As to the smothering, I agree with all of you--this was handled extremely badly.

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OMG,is anyone watching this? That woman just let her three year old pee in the street!!!!

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, she is an interesting mom...

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
How can she think a six year old spanking a three year old is ok? sheesh

Hippyt
Member

06-15-2001

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ok,this woman treats her children like they are her own personal toys.

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 6:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
another magical ending...

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You are right hippy. those kids are her toys (teddybears actually!) And Hukdon, yep-amazing that he families live happily ever after in just a half hour!!

Hukdonreality
Member

09-29-2003

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 7:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"What a surprise, a trip to Hawaii!" said the Mom. "I hope I can find a bikini for me and the conjoined baby attached to my hip."

Tabbyking
Member

03-11-2002

Monday, March 21, 2005 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
not on yet here...but i'll watch for street-pee-er!