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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 2:15 pm
NBC has ordered a Biggest Losers 2 and is accepting applications. http://www.realitytvworld.com/index/articles/story.php?s=3066
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Alisons
Member
01-10-2003
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 2:57 pm
I am so totally doing this! I want to be THE BIGGEST LOSER!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 5:02 pm
WOW, a second season eh? Well, I hope they cut some of those cheesy lines out of the next season....saying "It's time to CUT the FAT" when they are about to oust one of the contestants seems harsh in my opinion LOL
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Xena
Member
10-14-2004
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 6:49 pm
I agree with you Sunshyne4u I think it is harsh also. I'm glad the ones that have left so far are still losing weight. They should be pretty proud of themselves.
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 8:33 pm
I missed the last half hour tonight...wish they'd keep to an hour episode. Who lost the most weight? Who went home? Did Mo do well this week?
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Blender
Member
11-16-2004
| Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 9:20 pm
Hypermom: Dave went home. The African American woman (don't know her name) lost the most weight. If Mo is the biggest guy, he lost nothing (if I remember correctly). This is the first time I have watched this show. Is anyone else as outraged as I am? When I started watching, the blue team were working out. The guy with glasses was doing bicep curls and rocking back and forth as he was doing them. Anyone who does strength training knows you are not supposed to rock back and forth or you could injure your lower back! And the trainer guy just stood there and watched him do it! Having that big pile of food at the challenge may have looked dramatic, but I watching and thinking, that food could have been used to feed people at a shelter or something. What a waste!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 1:31 am
Yes Blender. I used to work out a lot and most of what we are seeing the contestants do, for the camera, is really dangerous and can cause longterm damage. For people as large as these it is very important to isolate the muscle groups. The trouble I have with this show is that the two SLIM trainers have probably never been overweight in their lives. I'd love to see BOTH trainers have a couple of 40lb sacks of flour strapped front and back on their bodies then THEY RUN UP THAT MOUNTAIN!! Love to see how they would cope with an extra 80lbs of weight bouncing around as they tried to run up the hill!!! Any athlete KNOWS you should NEVER run UP hills nor DOWN hills as you can rip tendons in your legs. This show really bothers me. Once again, it is all a popularity contest and NOT about how much weight is lost. One thing that IS good about this show as it lets the public know that no one can expect a large weight loss each week. Even the largest man Moe is virtually not losing any REAL weight...I wish they would do BODY FAT ratio calculations to decide whom is really doing the best. Anyways, I will keep watching. I do enjoy seeing the feeling of satisfaction and selfconfidence these people are getting. On a final note, anyone catch the Promise that Dave made to MATCH THE WINNING MONEY if he wasnt at a certain weight by the time the show was over???? That pic he submitted was from a very strange angle with his arm holding his belly in. I find it very unlikely from that pic that he only needs to lose 15lbs. Any other opinions??
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Hypermom
Member
08-13-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:10 am
Thanks Blender! Andrea is the woman that lost the most weight then...good for her. I'm glad they sent Dave packing.
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Danas15146
Member
03-31-2004
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 10:45 am
Andrea looks great! The difference in her pictures was unbelievable!
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Puttergirl
Member
08-11-2000
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 2:40 pm
Sunshyne4u- I agree! That was one of the stupidest looking pics I ever saw. Not only was Dave holding his arm in front of his belly, he was sucking it in for all it was worth. His chest was poked out about a foot!! I think he probably lost some more, but he sure wasn't content letting us see what he had really done.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 6:33 pm
So right, Sunshyne--that picture was so obviously meant to mislead.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 9:51 pm
Yet again, Lisa's emotional responses are akin to someone with psychological problems and a full-blown eating disorder is going to solve her obesity problem. 'squeek'
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 1:25 pm
I'd love to know what kind of REAL counselling these people are getting. Lisa is more emotional than the others but I wouldnt say unbalanced. however, some people like ME!! Can work out all they want and never dramatically change in weight and size. Have these people been made to understand that most of them will NEVER be slim and trim like they may EXPECT to be???? I know of a few large people who are in good shape, play sports, run, mountain bike etc yet are easily 40lbs overweight by most people's standards. It is all in your perspective of how you view yourself, in my opinion. Well, that and Society's view that an overweight person isnt worth as much as a slim pretty/handsome person.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 5:43 am
I would like to know why no one reported on last nights show!! I came in late, turned it on, saw the red team being sneaky begging Dave for a tie... then had to leave... (*sigh
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 8:34 am
Not a good recapper here but will try... male trainer called his team to do a run...Mo refused to go...trainer felt he had failed Mo and went to talk to him again...they made up with Mo stating he know trainer really cared about him. Kelly telling her team Mo needed to be the next to go and being obnoxious with her other male team mate (my opinion) Challenge- teams had to take 20 balls to cart and put them in, then pick up 2 life perservers and carry them around line of poles at waters edge and then place them on a pole and run and get flag at the end of course...Kelly had to set out cause her team had 1 extra person...Mo only walked the whole time seeming to cause his team to lose...sure enough they did lose. Prize was trip to (someplace famous, cant remember name of it) for makeovers. When they returned to house, Kelly said she had hoped they would get a really bad hair cut. Then the weigh in...Mo weight did not count due to extra person on that team...he lost 11 pounds tho..I don't remember everyones weight loss but Red team won. Red suggested to other guy on blue team (not MO) that he get with Mo and cause a tie in the vote and that way Red team would get to decide and promised a female who had been causing disruption would go home.. Sure enough..Kelly votes Mo, Mo votes Kelly, other girl votes Mo (by they way she looks great now), and other guy votes Kelly.. Red team comes in and votes out Kelly.. Kelly says she didnt see this coming and congradulates other guy on his scheming.. Sorry best I could do...hope it helps.
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Missy2
Member
07-31-2001
| Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 1:01 pm
Dang I can't believe Kelly is gone! Did anyone see her before & after pics on NBC.com? She looks FAB!
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 4:35 pm
Here's the recap straight from the NBC site. http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Biggest_Loser/recaps/106d.shtml Recap: Week 6 Tuesday, November 30th Following Dave's elimination, Kelly M. confronted Ryan about his plan to "get rid of the girls." While he denied ever having a "plan," Kelly Mac jumped in to tell Ryan that he's not the only guy to strategize against the women. Gary got annoyed by Kelly Mac's interference, saying that she has to "push every single issue to the wall." The back-and-forth continued and escalated until Kelly Mac told Gary to "calm the *&@# down." The next morning, the Red Team took out their frustrations in the gym. Jillian came up with the idea to do 500 pushups, 500 sit-ups, 500 squats and 500 lunges. The variety in which the teammates accomplished this goal was up to them individually. Ryan thought it was insane, while Kelly M. understood that it was more a psychological challenge than a physical one. Lisa was soon in tears, saying, "I need a break," to which Jillian replied, "No way!" Naturally, once the task was accomplished, the players were incredibly proud of themselves - which gave them just the mental boost that Jillian had intended! Later, three members of the Blue Crew had a talk about eliminations. Kelly Mac and Andrea tried to reassure Gary that he shouldn't be so paranoid. Kelly Mac said it wasn't that she was out to get Mo, but he wasn't being as disciplined about the program as Gary. Maurice, meanwhile, was not feeling well and wanted to take a break from training. He told Bob he wouldn't be participating in the day's activity - a run. Bob thought Mo was discouraged by his low weight loss at the last weigh in (1 pound), and pulled him aside to chat. Maurice wasn't trying to disrespect Bob, but he just couldn't exercise right now. Bob told him that "can't" shouldn't all of sudden be what Maurice is about. Maurice started to walk away, which obviously ticked Bob off. They both went their separate ways. In an interview, Maurice admitted he felt like Bob pushed him harder than the others because Mo had the potential to lose the most weight. The other members of the Blue Team regrouped in the gym, but Bob had a hard time focusing. Even after Kelly Mac gave him a pep talk, Bob couldn't help his feelings of failure. Bob left the group to seek out Maurice and resolve the issue. The two men sat down and Bob started to apologize. Maurice interrupted him, saying he had nothing to apologize for. During their heartfelt conversation, Bob reassured Maurice that his #1 priority was to help Maurice. For his part, Maurice confessed that he got himself into his current "health situation" and knew that Bob was only there to help him out of it. The two parted with a hug and a much better outlook. Over on the Red Team, Jillian was giving a lesson on reading food labels. She started with a popular beverage, handing the bottle to Lisa. She asked Lisa to tell her how many calories were in the tea drink. The calories on the label said "15", but that was per 8 ounces. The container was actually 16 ounces, meaning if you drank the whole thing you'd consume 30 calories. Jillian's point was to always check the serving size on the label against the actual serving size of the entire product and calculate the total calories accordingly. Many people make the mistake of underestimating TOTAL calories per TOTAL servings. The next lesson was fiber vs. carbs. If a product has 20 grams of carbs but 8 grams of fiber, you can subtract the fiber from the carbs to get an accurate carbohydrate count. According to Jillian, this is because dietary fiber is not an actual carb due to the fact that your body doesn't digest it. Food for thought! For the day's challenge, the teams met Caroline at the beach. The challenge was set up to mimic lifeguard training, complete with running and water tasks. First, the teams had to move weighted medicine balls down a stretch of beach, then grab life preservers and snake through a water course (on foot). Finally, teams would return to the sand to stack their life preservers on a pole before sprinting to the finish line. The winning team would be treated to a complete makeover courtesy of Umberto's Salon in Beverly Hills. An added bonus was that the winning team would choose who from the Blue team sat out the next weigh in. Since the Red Team was down by one player, the Blue Team randomly chose Kelly Mac to sit out the challenge, which greatly disappointed Gary and Andrea. As the challenge began, both teams raced into action - except Mo who sort of walked quickly into action. All team members had to complete each task before they could move to the next task, so Maurice's slowness was really affecting the team's ability to keep up. Kelly Mac cheered her Blue Team from the sidelines, while the Red Team moved to the shoreline obstacle course. Ryan said he felt like "freakin' David Hasselhoff" running down the shore carrying life preservers, wearing his Baywatch red! As the Red Team reached the finish and Lisa plucked the finish flag from the sand, she burst into tears of relief and happiness. It was a much-needed win for the Red Team! Andrea, meanwhile, was livid at the Blue Team's loss - and Mo's lack of energy. At the Umberto Salon, Umberto himself greeted the Red Team before their makeovers. While Lisa was thrilled at the makeover opportunity and Ryan had a "do whatever you want" attitude, Kelly M. cringed as Umberto cut layers into her long, straight hair. That night, they returned to the ranch with glamorous new looks, but dreaded seeing the Blue Team. Kelly M. and Lisa knew Kelly Mac would be handing out backhanded compliments, which is exactly what happened. Kelly Mac looked at Lisa's new haircut and said, "Oh, you got The Rachel." Lisa later commented that "The Rachel" came out in 1991, so obviously Kelly Mac was implying that the look was outdated. Kelly M. was tired of the negativity in the house and felt that Kelly Mac was the main source of that negativity. The next task for the Red Team was deciding who from the Blue Team would sit out at the weigh in. When the teams met up at the gym for the weigh in, the Red Team announced their decision. They chose Maurice because of his small weight loss the previous week. They figured he was due for a bigger loss this week. Maurice stepped up to the scale and proved the Red Team right. He had lost 11 pounds! His total weight was now under 400 pounds, a huge accomplishment for him. Unfortunately, the 11-pound loss wouldn't count towards the Blue Team's weekly tally. Kelly Mac was up next and had lost 9 pounds! Ryan stepped up for the Red Team. He was thrilled to discover that he had lost 16 pounds, bringing his total weight loss since day one to an astonishing 68 pounds! For the Blue Team, Andrea was down 7 pounds since the previous week. Lisa, who only lost 2 pounds the previous week, was up next for Red. She weighed less than 200 pounds for the first time in a long time, with a weekly weight loss of 9 pounds. The Blue Team was behind in total weekly weight loss by 9 pounds at this point. It was up to Gary to "out lose" Kelly M. in order for the Blue Team to pull out a win. As the pounds ticked down on the giant scale, they all soon learned that Gary had lost 4 pounds, which meant the Red Team was assured a victory. Kelly M.'s weight loss wouldn't matter for the team's status, but it surely mattered to her. She had lost an amazing 14 pounds! As the elimination loomed, the Red Team approached Gary about getting the Blue Team to tie - letting the Red Team play "bad guy" and choose who got eliminated. The Red Team's thinking, so they told Gary, was that they could break up any alliances on the Blue Team. Of course, their real strategy was to try and keep Maurice in the house - not only because they enjoyed his company, but because he "weighed" the Blue Team down during the challenges. Gary considered the Red Team's offer, but knew it was hard to trust anything anybody was saying to him. Later, the trainers returned to learn the outcome of the weigh in. Bob was disappointed that one of his team members would be leaving, but was absolutely proud of his team for accomplishing such great weight loss during the past week. He told his team that no matter who went home, they could use the temptations in the house as a metaphor for life's temptations. He totally believed that each of them could continue their healthy lifestyles outside of the house and therefore, continue reaching their goals. That night, the Blue Team met Caroline at the elimination table armed with their elimination platters. Kelly Mac spoke first and was teary-eyed as she explained that her choice was based on what was going to be best for the team and was in no way personal. She revealed her vote for Maurice. Maurice spoke next and said that these were friends sitting with him around the table. He said he had made a pact with two teammates early on and that he was abiding by it. He revealed his vote for Kelly M.. Andrea was up next and was also very emotional as she revealed her vote for Maurice. Now, if Gary voted for Kelly M. there would be a tie that the Red Team would break. Gary didn't give too much explanation for his vote other than knowing it would force a tiebreaker. Yes, he had voted for Kelly M.. The Red Team's manipulations had worked! Kelly M. actually laughed and commended Gary's cleverness at playing the game. Caroline explained that now the Red Team held the Blue Team's fate. They could eliminate anyone, not just Kelly M. or Maurice. The Red Team joined the group carrying one single platter, with one single name inside. Ryan spoke on behalf of the team and revealed their vote for someone who had the potential to lose a lot of weight. But it was Kelly M.'s name, not Maurice's! A shocking blow to the Blue Team! Afterwards, Kelly M. said she would've preferred to have been voted out by her own team rather than the opponent. Kelly M. said her tearful goodbyes and left the show. We soon learned that she has maintained her weight loss strategy and has continued to lose weight!
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 4:39 pm
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Blender
Member
11-16-2004
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:25 am
Even though I didn't watch much of this show, I really liked Drea and am sad she got eliminated. There was something about her that was so calm and so dignified. I hope Lisa comes in second and loses. I really, really, really dislike her.
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Cablejockey
Member
12-27-2001
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:43 am
Is Lisa the one that told Drea she was safe then voted her out because she was too good at losing weight? Yeah then I am not hoping she wins. I was amazed that Bob the trainer was so emotional about the thought of Drea leaving, I heard the crying and thought it was Drea! Now that there are more guys than girls, I bet whenever there is a female below that yellow line, she will be voted off. They should have gotten rid of Moe, but he will always be in nominated since he can't seem to lose weight--he also isnt much of a threat so he may stay awhile.
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Slimc21
Member
11-17-2004
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 9:47 am
I agree with you blender. Lisa is like a poor sport or something..I too hope she loses sooner than later though. Drea made a graceful exit and I'll miss her also.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 10:40 am
ITs all about alliances, and I just didnt think a weight loss show should be about alliances, it would've been so easy to do this show without the alliances... too much like survivor, but in Survivor, its about scheming, and not so much anything else. Where as in this show in addition to the comps, you have the regiment of exercise, and diet... so if they chose to do it with alliances, and competetions, why not any eliminations? To me, Maurice does not belong there, from the first day he bragged, as the biggest, most weight, he's a shoo in for the big money... that was what got me, I thought for sure, they'd figure out he wasnt competing, and he wasnt losing on the scale, send him home, but no, with his strength in alliances, he has gotten rid of those that are losing, and are winning the comps... (was that a vent/rant?!! lol)
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 11:59 am
The ONLY smart game move last night was to keep Maurice(Mo)..he is at 12%...a good 6-7% behind everyone else...that means he will be one below the yellow line, thereby only one other person will be at risk..smart game move. Mo does have the potential still for a big loss..but who knows what will happen.
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Jodied75
Member
08-26-2004
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 12:42 pm
It still doesn't seem right to me how they're determining "the biggest loser". Not only are people's metabolism different, but they are also pumping a lot of iron - which is heavier than fat! And speaking of pumping iron, it absolutely pains me to see people like Gary swinging their whole bodies back and forth when doing curl-ups, etc. That is not the correct way to lift!
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 1:57 pm
I agree 100% about gary and the forearm curls! Horrible form--not only were his hips doing most of the work--he was doing is so poorly his legs were doing work too. He's going to screw up his back! Not ot mention not getting much bicep work out of it. One would think the trainers would be all over them about poor weight lifting technique. I don't think the "muscle is heavier than fat" issue comes into play for them. If they gained an appreciable amount of mass, then yes. In this amount of time frame and the way they are lifting, they are doing more of a strength workout--and not a big mass increase workout. The toning/strength efforts on the weights will go along way in helping them to look better--there will be a better muscle base, making their bodies be more in tone--even with extra fat. About voting people off now--if the rest are there to win, they will vote off the person who is more likely ot have a chance to be near their weight loss percentage. Maurice is way behind--he weighted more ot begin with, so a pound lost for him will change his percentage the least of anyone. Unless he has a massive loss next week, he won't get anywhere near any of them. He is a shoe-in for 2nd place if the continue to vote based on the best chance to advance.
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