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Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Monday, April 11, 2005 - 7:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was a good fight, but I don't have high hopes for Juan in the second round against any of the previous 6 winners. He walked into a few punches from Tarick and was really hurt/stunned. I think the Tarick from 3 years ago would have finished him off.

I'm glad Ishe followed through with his feelings and didn't cave in to get a $2500 watch and hang with Ja Rule during the reward. You could see that he really wanted to, but stuck to his guns and held out. It would be best for him to move on and start focusing on round 2, since the fights will only get harder.


Jasper
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09-14-2000

Monday, April 11, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
darn, I couldn't find this last night, was pre-empted on our Canadian station for golf.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Monday, April 11, 2005 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh my, Jasper. You missed a good bout. I was so sure that Tarrick was going to win that I was begging him Please...don't pick Juan!

I have to admire that young whippersnapper. Even though his experience showed at times, he had guts. If you want to be the man, you gotta beat the man. He earned respect.

And Max, I totally agree. What a beautiful wife and daughter.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm with Bob . I think the Tarick from 3 years ago would have finished him off.


Also, to me it seemed like Juan thought he was streetfighting. He was throwing punches in a wild uncontrolled manner which wore down the OLDER less current Tarrick. I really thought Tarrick had a chance because of his experience but he just plain 'ran out of gas'. He looked exhausted by round three.

Juan is only 18?? and full of energy. WOW he was just flailing away hoping his gloves were connecting.
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On a final note I wish we were shown more of the socalled training that they are doing. If these guys are in the gym at the same time surely they would know each others fighting style, wouldnt they?

If you had someone in mind you would know BEFORE the fight their weak points and strong points.

This is a pretty good show and I am riveted to the TV during the fight.

Wondering why they arent wearing the usual protective gear though!!

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the other guys did have some idea of their fighting styles because one of them commented that this would be a fight between a boxer and a puncher. Juan's fighting style was pretty wild and crazy, but he sure got the job done. It was kind of like watching someone try to wrestle a greased pig.

The fight at the end was the most satisfying so far, and I don't even like watching fights. They both kept going right up until the last second. They both fought with a lot of heart, and when it was over they showed their respect for each other. The crowd got a great show.

I was surprised, though, that they didn't stop when they saw blood. Don't they usually have to stop for the sake of health and safety (the possibility of HIV)?

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sunshyne4u...On a final note I wish we were shown more of the socalled training that they are doing. If these guys are in the gym at the same time surely they would know each others fighting style, wouldnt they?

I think some of them are studying others' fight styles. I think that's why the one guy was so upset last week when Anthony didn't pick him to fight. He was preparing for a fight with Anthony, and when it didn't happen it threw him off.


Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what protective gear?? they dont wear protective gear in professional fights...

Max
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08-12-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Protective gear is only worn by sparring partners and Olympic boxers. I'm not even sure if it's worn at the Golden Gloves level. These are boxers who are trying to be professionals in the sports; it's the big leagues and there is no protection except your gloves and your boxing ability.

In an earlier show, at least one of the boxers commented on being watched by the others while working out and sparring at the gym. He said they might think he was showing them everything, but he wasn't. I don't remember who it was. Several have also commented on the other boxers' styles in the ring, so they do pay some attention to the workouts.

However, watching someone work out with a sparring partner and actually being in the ring with him when you're both totally on your own are two distinctly different experiences. There's also the c0ckiness factor in play. In boxing, you have to be confident in yourself and your ability or you'd never set foot in the ring, however sometimes that can mean that you underestimate your opponent.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
All sanctioned Amateur fights - including the Golden Gloves - require protective headgear, mouth piece and a shirt to absorb sweat - and the gloves are made to absorb and not transmit shock .. but as has been expressed above, these are professionals - they not only want to be professionals but the fights are professionally sanctioned by the California State Athletic Commission and the results go on their professional records, so as Max said they only have the mouthpiece, gloves and their inner power as protection.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 5:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just visited alfonsogomez.com. He writes a diary on each episode of The Contender. Great comments and some good insight on what goes on behind the scenes. Definitely an enjoyable read.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 2:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Found Alfonso's blog - good comments:
http://www.alfonsosgomez.com/page4.htm

Sergio has an interview here:
http://www.maxboxing.com/Kim/Kim041305.asp

"But in watching the shows, Mora swears that what's being shown on 'The Contender' every Sunday night on NBC is an accurate depiction of what he went through."
Here is one of his websites:
http://www.sergiomoraboxing.com/index.html
(it's registered to a John Montelongo in San Pedro, don't know his affiliation with Sergio).

'squeek'

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great fight. I sure didn't see another vote coming. Would've have been nice to learn the results!!!!!!!

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 6:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i was very understanding of Juan leaving until his last line when he talked about beating a great fighter, staying unbeaten and then saying "I think my injuries came at the right time" and to me, i interpert that as saying what a great excuse to leave before losing a fight - and to me, that attitude is just NOT ALLOWED in any situation in life if you truly want to succeed.

GGGRRRRRRRRRRRRRR



Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 7:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Marysafan, if you watched the previews for next week, you saw the results, lol ...

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 8:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Were those new previews, or were they clips from previous fights?

I was kind of disappointed in the way this fight turned out. Even though it's always inspiring to see someone persevere in spite of injuries, now it's likely that he's done even more damage to his hamstring. Will he be able to fight in this next round of the competition, or will they end up having to vote in a third person to replace him?

Did I miss something, or did they not show them receiving a reward for Juan's victory?

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 8:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I missed the previews! Tell me....please! I'm begging here.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Curly, I didn't see a reward for the east either. From what I saw in the previews, and a bunch of us saw the same thing, and from what Joey and those guys said about "throwing a wrench into things", we believe that everyone's favorite pretty boy (gag) is coming back.

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 5:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Two comments and a question:

How funny is the old guy? Have you noticed in pretty much every episode he comes wandering into the kitchen in his underwear? Cracks me up every time.

They showed a couple shots of the person who comes back next week - but I don't want to spoil anyone who doesn't want to know. And it wasn't just a fight scene - they showed them all lined up at one point and he was third from the left.

My question is stupid - was Sylvester Stallone a real boxer or did he only play one in the movies? Somehow I thought he was a boxer for real. He's not, is he?

Bec21969
Member

09-20-2003

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Contender/credits/sylvester_stallone.shtml

Here is the link to sly's credits. He has done a lot in his life..... did not realize how much until I read this

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
no he was never a real boxer

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
So I finally got to watch the show last night and I am so disappointed in Juan - He definitely has some growing up to do. It disgusted me in that so many gave up so much to be there and lost fights and he just threw it all away over fear of a lose on his record. What a joke.

I was happy to see Joey win as everyone kept telling him he was the weakest fighter... His confidence has to be soaring now and I hope he has a great 2nd round too!

I couldn't figure out who is coming back - PLEASE SHARE. Make is so we have to highlight it too read it if your afraid of posting and upsetting someone.

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 8:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I freeze-framed my DVR on the preview and it's clear who comes back. Highlight if you want to know: There was a very clear shot of Ahmed in the ring facing the camera. No doubt at all. It looked like he was fighting Alfonso (whose back was to the camera).

Juan was a major disappointment. It said it all to me when he said, "I know the next fights are going to be harder." He was scared. Buh-bye. Don't let the doorknob hit ya where the good Lord split ya! You could tell that Sugar Ray was really disappointed with Juan's attitude.

Joey had a lot of heart to come back like that with one leg out of commission. Definitely the polar opposite of Juan! And Jimmie? Well, Jimmie got beat in the mental game. While I think a little fear is probably always present in a boxer's head (if it isn't, he's probably going to take unnecessary risks), it's definitely something he has to learn to control and move past. You simply can't go into the ring with fear in the forefront of your mind and expect to come out a winner.

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 5:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
loved tonight's first ep - best fight yet! Yay Sergio - and great editing to have the voices right at the moments of impact ("Do it NOW!" and the wham, sergio starts pummeling)



Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Both of tonight's episodes were great. Joey made me cry. Maybe he was playing power games...it did work...but it still was a magnamimous gesture.

Alfonso is my boy. What heart.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
alfonso was just great tonight