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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 12:24 pm
I was absolutely stunned when the little @#$#@$#$@ threatened her mother!!!
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 12:49 pm
What kills me about these shows is how the parents act so surprised that there are solutions to their problems with the kids. Any parent can pick up a book or a magazine or go online and read about these solutions. They are out there! They're not a secret. I have a very "high spirited" child who will act just horrible at times. She will tell me "I'm not ready to listen" and laugh when I put her in time out. I have to repeatedly put her back into timeout until she backs down. It's always been this way and it is exhausting, but I just keep at it. That mother was crazy to think she could work full time while her kids were home. The kids would be SO much better off in a daycare or preschool while the mom was working. They need attention and guidance and can't be expected to entertain themselves at that age. I felt bad for the boy too.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 1:25 pm
I wonder if the mom thinks she is doing a great job by being a "Stay at home mom!" Those kids would be soooo much better off in daycare!
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 1:49 pm
I think she did, Julie. but how was she able to cut back on her hours so easily????
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 2:02 pm
I just couldn't believe the mouths on those girls! I know discipline is much different these days, and I'd never advocate actually striking a child. But I can tell you none of us kids would have ever dreamed of talking to our mom like that, cause we'd have had out "mouth slapped to the other side of our face." I felt so sorry for Jared! His comments in interviews and with Jo sounded like words from a weary old man. He sounded so aged, and it wasn't a "wisdom" aged sound, it was the sound of constant defeat. I just bristled when his mom read from his "thought box" about the girls never getting consequences and he always did, and she just huffed, "now is that really true?" I know full well what its like to have your feelings debunked by a parent. That not only are your feelings unimportant, but "untrue." My heart just really went out to this poor boy. I give a lot of props to Jared for not buying into the "here is how we get attention" thing from the girls, and still being his own person. Otherwise those parents would have had three horrible monsters to deal with instead of two. I sort of feel like the Mom took it out on Jared cause she could. If she tried to take on the girls, she would pay the price. I truly think she was afraid of them.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 2:22 pm
I wonder how much the fact that the boy was likely the dad's step son played into the mom's daily decisions of how she treated all of the kids. Seemed she was way harder on J than on the A's.
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Ga_kristy
Member
02-04-2005
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 6:25 pm
Mom may have cut back on her hours because she did not get but a few hours in the first go around and w/ some sort of structure could get more done and be done with it. But they did not tell where the girls was and what they were doing when mom was working. That was weird to me. Those girls were awlful, poor Jared!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 7:07 pm
First my thoughts of the show...GAK!!!!!! Those young girls were amazingly mouthy. And where in the world did they learn those threats and that it is okay to strike out??? Theory #1 - A tv set being used as a babysitter (the kids watch anything they wish) Theory #2 - their parents talk that way to each other Theory #3 - Mom freaks out on Jared saying things to him and striking out. ******* On a final note I must add to the above poster who said I think somebody (maybe me?) is missing an incredible marketing opportunity off this show. How easy would it be to produce and sell Naughty Mats or Naughty Stools I think that there IS a market for that as well...but in the Adult industry!! I can think of a few guys I know who could use a Naughty Mat!}
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Tabbyking
Member
03-11-2002
| Tuesday, February 08, 2005 - 7:26 pm
it really seems to me that people who have 'multiples' have extreme problems. i think they got so much attention for having twins, triplets or quads that they just got used to the kids running the show. once they aren't cute little babies anymore, the parents are left alone with monsters!! JMO, of course... and so often: bedtime seems to be a disaster for so many parents on this show! my kids had a bedtime and a routine...they brushed their teeth, got one story, a kiss, and a parent who left the room!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 2:07 am
oh yeah, and my theory #4 - the dad smiles and doesnt react when the girls go off. Therefore the kids feel their mouthing off is taken as funny. Did any of you notice the father had a smile on his face thru almost the whole show>?? The only time He didnt look amused was when HE had to be the one to try to get the youngster to stand in the corner. Then he looked like he was going to cry. **** You know, kids thrive on routine. I like how the Supernanny makes out a schedule to be followed.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 10:11 am
Just saw an ad for "SUPPERNANNY; THE BOOK"!!!
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Ga_kristy
Member
02-04-2005
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 3:43 pm
What would Nanny do if........ the kids would go to bed and stay but yelled and cried forever? or when you send them to time out and they act stubborn and will not come out when its time? when your in public and there is no naughty chair? im doing some of these things but these are some things Im running into.LOL
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 4:26 pm
when my sister or I would make a fuss in public MOM would tell us that wouldnt stop her from reprimanding us. When you are in public the kids would probably be embarrassed if you made them stand face first against a wall (similar to at home) This realization that their behaviour is being observed by others IS a deterent. I remember being mortified that 'everyone' would see me and know that I wasnt obeying my mom. Anyways, sounds like you have quite a lot on your plate. Keep up with the routine Kristy...we know ya can do it!! Cheers
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 4:30 pm
Things are so different now. I remember if we tried to pitch a fit in the store, Mom would grab us, look us in the eye, and tell us, "you stop that right now or I'll give you something to really cry about." The threat of a public spanking usually shut us right up.
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Landi
Member
07-29-2002
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 5:22 pm
but the problem was, in the past, if you kept doing what was wrong, your mother WOULD spank you right then and there in public, people just thought, "naughty kid". now - the first thing they do is call child protection services (CPS) on you. and the kids know it!
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 7:01 pm
Exactly Landi. Exactly.
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 9:11 pm
My plan was if DS (I had to go back and change it ... I first typed DH! LOL!) acted up in public...I didn't care where we were or what we were doing... My plan was to leave and return to the car and then decide if we were going home (depending upon the actions) ... If we were in a restaurant as a family ... the plan was one of us (DH or I) would take him out to the car while the other one finished dinner and paid...he would get one warning and then this would happen...we told him this every time we went out...he came close ONCE...got the warning on his behaviour and changed immediately.... He threw two tantrums in his young years...both were at home .. the second one I grabbed the camera and started taking pictures of him...told him I wanted to capture the moment...told him to keep rubbing his eyes.. to cry harder...because I wanted a better shot of him and his tantrum...and that I was going to show it to his girlfriend when he was older! He was probably 4 or 5 LOL! he was soon laughing at this silly situation. And hasn't had one since...good thing... he's now 14!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 10:01 pm
LOL--we did the same thing in the stores and restaurants. I like your camera idea!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 7:29 am
Ever since I had a baby, I have been a lot more sensitive to when parents are "disciplining" their kids in public. A lot of times it makes me cringe. Now my son is a very active and sometimes wild little boy, but I never have had to spank or even threaten him with a spanking. I find a reward/sticker chart is much more effective. Oh, and he has no idea what CPS is. With my sticker charts, what I do is get a "reward" (or even a picture of the reward can do). Then I make a chart with however many squares I deem that reward is worth. (bigger the prize, the more squares.) Now since I don't want him to think he will be rewarded every single time, he will only get a sticker randomly. But if I really want him to behave or do something, then I will specify that he'll get a sticker for that particular time. It works great. And it is really nice cuz I can reward him for good behavior when I don't even request it. Let's say he puts his dishes in the sink (or whatever) without me even asking him to, then I'll tell him he gets a sticker for that good thing. Does that make sense? I'll take a picture of one of our charts and post it a little later...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:24 am
Oh, one more thing. As a deterrent for bad behavior, I would put a small circle on the bottom of the chart for bad behavior. Then he'd have to get an extra star (sticker) to cover that up before he could continue on...
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:37 am
Julie, I don't know if you do it on purpose, but you're using classic behavior modification techniques. :-) You use positive reinforcement (giving something he likes -- a star -- for good behavior) on a random basis, which is shown to be the most effective long-term schedule, positive punishment for bad behavior (giving something he doesn't like-- a circle), and negative reinforcement (taking away something he doesn't like for good behavior -- the circle "taken away" by the star). I know students who can't grasp those concepts after a semester long introductory ed psych class...
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 9:41 am
Cool! I didn't even know! But I do know it works very well. Way better than yelling or pleading... Thanks for pointing that out Prisoner!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 1:26 pm
Here is the last one we used. Before we made it I brought him to the store with me and made a big deal of making it. He got to choose the posterboard. The bottom stars are covering his "naughty circles" (I do not call them that. But I bet Jo-jo would!!!) He was working towards two prizes-the spiderman game and markers that you can draw on windows with.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 7:26 pm
Julie, I LOVE your chart! Great job! This suggestion maybe could go somewhere in the parenting area. I think a lot of others would find it very helpful. I wonder what Nanny would've done with my youngest who used to have about 5 tantrums a day...she is 8 now. Sometime during age 7 she had her last tantrum. They decreased year by year. As a toddler there was a lot of screaming and when she acquired language, the screaming just turned into screaming words. She was a room wrecker too, at age 3, and too young to clean it up. I mean literally everything she could reach was taken out of the closet, every drawer, every shelf. She shares a room with one of her sisters and they had (still have!) a LOT of stuff. I cannot remember how we handled those room wrecking times. She had some type of consequences! I wonder what Nanny would've done. She never would have sat on the naughty stool. We used to give her time outs in her room. Sometime a few yr ago, she had to do her timeouts in the middle of the floor in the hall or living room...I'm not sure they always worked really well though. She once had banked 7 time outs. I always had her only do a min. per age at one sitting. On the flip side, she was very loving, just not very adaptable to change and very governed by her emotions and not able to handle them. At age 2 she would hold up her little arms and say "calm me" once she was able to realize that she couldn't calm herself. I am so rambling...anyway, I wonder what Nanny would've done with her. We tried positive reinforcement with her and our middle daughter, never worked for either of them very well. They just weren't motivated by it much. It worked excellently for our oldest daughter all the way from potty training and we still use it for keeping her room clean and she's 14!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, February 11, 2005 - 7:34 pm
Thanks Happymom. Glad to hear your dd's tantrums decreased with age. There were times I wished I had a straightjacket for my ds! ;) I will put that chart in the parents area.
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