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Pamy
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01-02-2002

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 5:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great fight but I wanted Jesse to win!!!!!!

Jesse's wife dresses so tacky


Luvmyjrt
Member

09-18-2003

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, agree on Jesse's wifes dress. DH thought she might be pregnant????

Don't know if I feel the same as you about Jesse though. It seemed to me throughout the series, Jesse was always injured or talking about just letting the opponent win the fight.

Now, I might be making all that up....but it's what I seem to remember.

I just wish they wouldn't let the kids see the fights.

Hootyhoot
Member

12-18-2001

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jesse and Sergio were my favorites from the beginning, so I was sorry to see them matched up. But at least I have a favorite in the big finale. I do hope we see more of Jesse though. I think someone should offer Jesse a job working with kids ... he seems to be so great with them.

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't help but wonder if Jesse had as much time between fights as Sergio had (to heal), how would the fight of gone. Jessie only had 3 days - and that was after all that fasting and water loss he had to do for his last fight. Is 3 days enough to bounce back from that?

So now we'll see Alfonso and Jesse fight?

Rosie
Member

11-12-2003

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I too wish that the little kids weren't there watching the fights.

Jesse had his moments and I was hoping he could keep going but he did seem to tire quickly. You are probably right that he needed more time to recover from his last fight.

Sassynegal
Member

01-21-2005

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am so happy about this final 2. I really don't care which one of them wins, I just am glad they are both there.



Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
But you also have to remember ... he orchestrated the order of things in the round of 8, so it's his own fault that he had only three days. And as far as having to fast and sweat before the last fight, that was his fault, too. He's a professional, he should know to stay within weight. Saying that, he was very entertaining and I'm sure he will go far. Before these last two fights, he was world ranked higher than any of the other fighters on the show, so hopefully this will just be a temporary setback. He'll learn some things and move on.

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 3:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Ladytex. I was going to mention his lack of discipline - admittedly - being his own fault.

I wonder if he has already peaked as a fighter. That his heart isn't as much into it as it may have been at one time. Even in his confessionals during his last 2 fights, I felt that he wasn't as into it as the other fighters were. Although he did well once in the ring, he didn't seem to exude confidence. It seemed to take him getting pissed off after being hurt in the first couple of rounds to really fight hard.

But not knowing about boxing, I could be reading it wrong.

I'm kind of glad Jesse & Peter aren't fighting each other - even though that's what Peter was hoping for. They seem to be really close. so that must be hard to fight - especially for a million dollars!
I'm looking forward to watching Alfonso & Jesse fight though. I think that's also going to be a great fight!

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know much about boxing either, but isn't "taunting" or psyching out your opponent a common practice in any sport? Plus, in this case I wonder if it has any effect on the judges, like saying "See, he's not hurting me. I'm ready for more!"

For me I've seen enough Jesse. They spent most of the show focusing on him, even though he ended up losing. He never seemed to recapture that spirit he had in the first round when he stepped up and chose to fight when Ishe stalled. After that he passed up opportunities to fight as though he were afraid to. It was interesting when the "reporter" (are those real reporters?) pointed out that he would've had more time to recuperate if he had fought sooner in the previous rounds.

I don't know much about Sergio due to his lack of real screen time, except that he has a knack for cutting through the bull and calling things for what they are. I did think it was funny when he said he liked Jesse so much he would punch him with love.

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Spear - I was wondering the same thing about cornermen. Is he actually a cornerman? Or does he just maybe go to the corner to give advice to the fighter that needs it at the time. I rewatched the Alfonso & Peter, and the Jesse & Sergio fights and noticed that he was sitting in the stands with Stallone & party. (I don't have any earlier episodes still on tape)

Re: Stallone and Sugar Ray rooting - I either read or saw an interview where Stallone said it's hard, but they try not to root for a particular fighter. Usually it's generic comments - like "GET HIM" "GO GO" "LET'S GO - FIGHT", "DON'T WAIT". It must be difficult to sit there and not get caught up in the action.
I also think if they do yell a name, it's the person losing. So I think it's a matter of coaching both fighters from the stands. I haven't watched it that closely to see if he/they root for one person throughout the whole fight. I'd have to re-watch a few episodes and pay attention.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OK ... This is now on the yahoo website:

Note: In keeping with the spirit of The Contender, by making the best possible fighter match-ups, the Fan Favorite Fighters have changed the bouts, with Ishe now fighting Anthony and Brent now fighting Jeff.

http://contender.tv.yahoo.com/01/fanfavorites.html

Luvmykitties
Member

01-02-2004

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wow - thanks for that update Ladytex!

Now it seems like a much better match up, and now I will more than likely watch that fight.

I wonder what made Anthony change his mind? (if what Alfonso heard was true).

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I guess some people might consider this a spoiler so...



It's a good thing they changed that fight. I'm watching some of the Brent/Jeff fight. Ishe would have killed Brent. He's not doing a very good job IMO.

Marysafan
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Can you keep us posted as to how it turns out?

Essence
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01-12-2002

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sure as long as I don't get caught.

Ok, the winner of the first fight...



49-46 - Fraza
48-47 - Cooper
49-46 - Fraza

Split decision for Jeff Fraza

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They broadcast the Gomez/Manfredo episode on Sunday on the regular station so we did get to see it after all.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm so glad that Jeff got a chance to fight. The winners of these bouts get $25,000. Gosh, the music for this show is absolutely awesome!!

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good for Jeff! I voted for him. I'm glad he got something out of the deal considering they own him for the next few years.

Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
They broadcast the Gomez/Manfredo episode on Sunday on the regular station so we did get to see it after all.

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Being that it's a two hour live finale tonight...does this mean we will get to see the Alfonso vs Jesse fight too? Whoo hoo! I wasn't expecting that! I just thought we would see the final two!

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good question ... I hope we do get to see what they've called "the fight for bronze" ... that's not listed on the yahoo website.

Essence
Member

01-12-2002

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 10:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Up next... A Father's Day battle

Anthony vs. Ishe

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This should be a good bout. I'm glad that they realigned the match ups to make this one. I'm thinking Ishe will take Anthony though (he just seems so much stronger)...but Anthony will down fighting!

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
E, did you catch who that was arguing in Anthony's corner between the 1st and 2nd round?

Essence
Member

01-12-2002

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 11:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ladyt, I think it's the bald corner guy from the show and whoever is coaching Anthony. I don't know the names though. He wanted the bald guy out of there and the bald guy wanted to talk to Anthony.