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Jasper
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09-14-2000

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 8:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Joey's injury was pretty horrifying especially with the blood flying. I think in the end they were commenting that it happened when Joey went in with a punch and Peter ducked and bang they connected.

Off the boxers and on to the trainers with a trivial peeve, I wish someone would tell that older guy to ditch those hats and put his collar down! And thankfully Jackie took the boys shopping, they didn't come out looking like pimps like they did shopping with hat guy.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's a good article about Joey: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page3/story?page=turner/contender/050502

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 10:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
be careful - there is a spoiler in the article

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 5:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Hmm, the "Bronze Medal" round? That the one on the morning of the live final round. Tickets are $50 for that one, $300 for the finals.

That it may be fan's choice? That would explain why the Contestants have continued to train and been paid all these months after filming the show - 1) so no one can tell who is in the final bout, and 2) b/c two of them will be voted back for the opening fight? That is cool beans, that we can vote back our favorites.

Wonder which round we can choose from? Ishe? Anthony? Miguel? (not Ahmed, please not Ahmed).

'squeek'

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 6:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Y'all should listen to the "Reality Now" radio show at the fishbowl. Joey was interviewed in the first half hour of the show, and Marvin from BB5 was the guest.
www.thefishbowl.com

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Tuesday, May 03, 2005 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Here's an interview with Tommy Gallagher, one of the trainers on Contender. No spoilers, but he strongly hints that there will be a second season.
http://www.fightnews.com/richardson134.htm

Bob2112
Member

06-12-2002

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Having read here first and only watching my Tivo of the show last night, I was looking for the head butt.

First. I am surprised there is not much more accidental head butting that occurs throughout the fights. So many of the guys are punching with their whole bodies and when they miss or the punch slips off, their head goes flying forward. At the same time, several of the fighters duck down quickly to avoid the punch and then bring their heads back up. It must happen a bunch but just not cause cuts or broken bones.

Second, after watching the contact several times frame by frame, I would say that Joey is the one who actually created the contact. It was definitely accidental, but he hits Peter on his left side of the face causing Peter's head and right shoulder to twist back and to the right and down. Peter then squares himself back up to face Joey and basically is back in the same position he was in before the punch. Joey's punch does seem to slip off the front of Peter's chin, causing Joey to follow through and bring his head down and forward with his eye right on top of Peter's forehead. Ouch!

It is amazing that it does not happen more often on the missed punches.

Question: What is that stuff they put on the boxer's faces between rounds? It looks like some sort of lotion/grease? Is it to help the punches slide off the face more easily to reduce the impact? Maybe it is sun screen because of the bright lights?

Anyway, It was a great fight and could have gone either way. I think Peter deserved to win, but I also do not think Joey would be able to fight again soon, so Peter winning also avoided having to vote someone back in again.

I this it will be Alfonso and Sergio in the finals, regardless of who wins next week.


Max
Member

08-12-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I believe they put a vaseline mixture on their faces. It helps close cuts and keep cuts from happening as frequently. Definitely a hard punch is still gonna hurt, though. :-)

I think I'd love to see Alfonso and Sergio in the final!

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well if they continue to use challenges to determine who fights who...no telling who we are going to get. I can almost count out Alfonso from winning any challenges and determining his own destiny. The boy doesn't have a very good track record in the challenge department!

My luck he will get picked to fight Sergio in a semi-final round. I think Sergio is the fighter to beat at this point.

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ironically vaseline/grease is allowed in professional but not amateur and i found this online...

Rule Clarification Regarding Use of Vaseline

USA BOXING NOTICE #2003-17

MEMORANDUM

DATE: June 3, 2003

TO: Board of Governors
Board of Directors
Technical Committee

FROM: Eric J. Parthen, Executive Director

SUBJECT: Rule Clarification Regarding Use of Vaseline

At the AIBA Congress in November, 2002 in Cairo, Egypt, the following was approved:

"The use of pure Vaseline rubbed into the forehead and eyebrow to prevent an injury is permitted."

As many coaches feel that Vaseline is needed on the cheekbones under the eyes to prevent cuts, around the chin area, etc., the question was posed to AIBA by USA Boxing as to whether or not Vaseline could be used on other parts of the face. AIBA has replied as follows:

"The use of a thin coat of pure Vaseline is permitted in the facial area."


ALSO
Cut Man: The guy in the corner whose job it is to stop the bleeding of cuts (caused by head-butts, glove laces, or a good hard punch) or staunch the flow of blood from the nose; they use q-tips dipped in coagulant and vaseline. He also reduces the swelling around the eyes (so the fighter can see) by applying cold pressure.

and i thought this was funny

Tomato can: A journeyman fighter, or "professional opponent," who is not good enough to be a champion but provides a good fighter with a good practice session without any real danger to himself. Also called a "ham-and-egger" (for the diner food once consumed on the road by these men), or "palooka."


Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Friday, May 06, 2005 - 1:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
By the way, vaseline is one of the best things to put on cuts or sores to help protect it for healing. (my dermatologist suggested it!) It also makes the skin more supple and lessens scar formation.





Keepers
Member

03-31-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Any East Coast spoilers out there?

Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
not spoiling a thing hehehe

Rosie
Member

11-12-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


Keepers
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03-31-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    


Legalboxer
Member

11-17-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
definitely one of the strongest showings

Keepers
Member

03-31-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Although I was dying to know, thanks LB for not spoiling! It was as you said, one of the strongest showings!

Makays
Member

07-12-2001

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow.....what a fight! I wanted Jesse to win, but how lucky was he. If not for that one uppercut, he should of been going home.
I guess he wasn't putting on a show when he said that he wasn't in the best of shape. Could be all that sweating did him in. For most of the fight, he wasn't fighting back. At least what they show you.
Oh well.....on to next week!


Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
that's why Peter lost the first time ... he had to take off too much weight too soon and it made him too weak. that's why he was so worried about Jesse. can't wait to see the extended footage this week on yahoo and hear the interview this week on fishbowl ...

Pamy
Member

01-02-2002

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 9:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great fight!! I am glad they stopped the fight, that knock out hit looked like his neck snapped, it was painful to watch.

Sunshyne4u
Member

06-17-2003

Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 11:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Pamy. I taped the fight and holy moley, The Bullet just about lost his HEAD. I swear His neck looked like it came loose from his head for a minute. I am amazed there was no internal bleeding and no wonder these guys end up with braindamage from small strokes!!

What bothered me the most was The BULLET's daughter who was just about going out of her gourd during the fight. First she was jumping and screaming, swinging her arms like she was punching. Then when she saw her dad losing she went hysterical! I felt really bad for her. It is tough on kids to see that.

The fight itself seemed sloppy. Like the guys said afterwards, it seemed like a streetfight more than a real boxing match. I hated seeing Jesse shoved thru the ropes and Bullet about to kidney punch him (the ref pulled him away)

It just looked unsportsmanlike.

Jesse fought a smart fight. He took the punches and just waited for fatigue to set into his opponent. One wrong move and WHAM jesse scored the big punch. I wish they had called the fight sooner though. It was obvious that Bullet was out of it.

Konamouse
Member

07-16-2001

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This was not boxing. This was brawling. If Anthony had just gone back to boxing for the 5th round, he could have stayed out of Jesse's reach and avoided that two punch blow that knocked him down. Anthony had this fight one, both physically and mentally. Jesse was out of it in the first round, really he was out of it at the beginning of the week (mentally) according to how the show was edited. Jesse wasn't fighting smart, he just got lucky. He was trying to survive and then Anthony gave him the opening he needed.

I totally agree with everyone about having those kids watching the fight. Not a good idea.

And what is with Jesse's wife and her taste in clothing? Lingerie? Ugh.

Any hits shown in slow motion are going to look ugly. If that was shown in real time, it would not have looked quite so terrible; but the outcome would be the same - uppercut from any of those guys would floor any guy. Anthony just leaves himself too open. Won't matter who he fights in the third round, he's toast.

What sucks is that they are starting the voting for "fan favorite" for the Bronze fight.
http://contender.tv.yahoo.com/01/fanfavorites.html

But probably the two who lose in the third round will not be eligible (the current list does not include anyone in the third round) and that sucks in my mind (because any one of these final four, except Jesse) deserves a chance (in my book).

'squeek'

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 9:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep, that as 'fighting', not 'boxing'. And yes, Jesse got lucky with that uppercut.

Early in the fight, Anthony was dodging Jesse's punches like crazy. He was really paying attention then. Later on, I thought he got a bit cocky and careless and then he left himself wide open for that uppercut and BOOM! I thought it was over then; he didn't look like he had all his wits about him on that standing eight count.

I hate they way they put the kids front and center -- especially the little kids like Jesse's. Anthony's daughter is at least older and able to understand better what is going on, but I don't like seeing them there at all. That's my biggest bone to pick with this show -- otherwise, I enjoy it a lot.

The most heart-wrenching moment for me, though was Anthony sitting in his corner after the ref finally stopped the fight, screaming, "NO!" over and over again. :-( I did like his comments as he was leaving, though. He was a good sport about it. I hope he finds some kind of success. I truly admire the things he does to keep his kids close (working nights so he can be there for them has got to be hard).

As for the voting, I'll be truly surprised if it's not Joey that gets back in. I think he's a fan favorite, but I don't think he's the best fighter by a long shot. But then, this is like American Idol -- it's not about the best skills, it's about fan favorites. :-)

Marysafan
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think I might vote for Jeff. I just feel so bad for him...that he never got an opportunity to fight because of the chicken pox. But then...I am haunted by "Everything happens for a reason".

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Monday, May 09, 2005 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I voted for Jeff, even though the Joey and Anthony fans seem to be voting en masse, lol ...