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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just popping in.. I'll read the posts here tomorrow, but I'm smiling. I think it went the way it should, especially due to the shoe issue and the KaraSaun dress that tripped up the model (actually I thought there were two of those but the one was frightfully obvious and the minute I saw that I thought "ut-oh". I could really see where Jay and Kara had things more together and even though Kara majorly blew it with the shoes, she did come up with a solution (didn't work for the competition, but in real life, she was the one who came with shoes, wonderful shoes.. it sounded like Wendy brought nothing of the sort with her.)

I do question having a judge donate shoes..

Wendy's creations were so up and down. With Jay and Kara when their models came back at the end you saw a theme; you knew the same person created them.

I could have been happy either way and I'm really happy for Jay.

I liked seeing their families; seemed very odd that Wendy's husband was never shown.. perhaps he has some prominence or security presence in federal govt, since they live in VA? But still, odd.

I loved the moment when Wendy's daughter skipped in back of the screen, though I thought Wendy's I'm just a mom posturing, and I've always dreamed of this day posturing, and picking up her child at the end probably made her seem less professional and was not a good thing, but given she didn't win, she probably is happy she did include her child.

Sneaking a peek at Penpoint above me.. yes.. I agree.

I also saw Austin's collection on the website and his runway.. and considering he had only 1.5 months to put it together, I think he might have beaten Wendy even with that collection and if he'd had the backing and support and time, who knows? But I do think Kara or Jay still would have won.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh and Jay jumping in back of the screen was cute, too..

Prisonerno6
Member

08-31-2002

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree, of the three left at the end, the person who deserved to win, did. Wendy showed her lack of understanding of the process when she showed up with no accessories. Her designs had no cohesive feel to them (colors of autumn?). The see-though shirt thing just cried out, "See, I am too a real designer!" The way she just kept harping on about strategy also screamed, "I know I don't have enough talent to win, so I better find some other way of doing it."

The whole Kara shoe thing seemed odd to me; why did the producers wait until so late to say something to Kara about the shoes? Even still, as I watched her clothes, they seemed derivative to me. I don't know enough about fashion to say they were Gucci, but I do know enough to say, "Been there, done that." They were technically beautiful, but there wasn't that special spark for me.

From what little I could see in the streaming video of Austin's collection, he would have given Jay and Kara some real competition has he had the time to prepare that they did. His clothes were absolutely beautiful.

Jay's collection had cohesion, it had uniqueness, and it had quality. I don't know that I would even wear anything he designed :-), but I can see why he won.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 6:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Melissa should have been the winning model too. She was by far the best. Seeing the same girl in different outfits/attitudes each week was really fascinating to me. I never realized how much the model herself can bring to the outfit.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was surprised that I did like some of Wendy's dresses. I think she can do very well for herself in the D.C. area. They have lots of fancy dress up events, right?

Melissa and her buckle dress were wonderful. I think Melissa was the best model of the bunch. She made everyone's design look their very best. I also like that she never bad mouthed Wendy. That is, she didn't get on the band wagon. With one so young, it might have been tempting.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 8:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pics from the runway


http://www.newyorkmetro.com/fashion/fashionshows/05/fall/runway/projectrunway/

Teachmichigan
Member

07-22-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 9:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is there a link for Austin's designs? I looked late last night for them on the Bravo site and couldn't fine them. TIA!

Prisonerno6
Member

08-31-2002

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If you follow the above link, the first 13 photos are Austin's (through the midnight blue velvet dress).

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sigh, unfortunately, I can't get this show so only know what I read here and at the website (Tim's Take is certainly interesting. He believes either Jay or Kara could easily have own)

I gather that Jay won..but did Melissa win the model part? And what does she win? Does Kara get anything for being second?

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes Jay won. Because Jay won, his model wins as well. So, Julia gets the spread in ???? Whatever fashion mag that was.

Melissa did get wonderful exposure. Win or not, I'm sure folks are noticing her. She's only 17 - scary stuff to me. LOL I want her to suceed, but not too fast. Modeling seems to chew some girls up and spit them right back out.

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Elle Magazine. :-)

I like Austin's collection a lot. Imagine what he could have done if he'd had as much time as the others. If it had been reversed and he had been in the final three and Wendy had been given a month and a half to put together a "decoy" collection, I cannot imagine the drama that small Virginia town would have seen!

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I love reading Tim's comments!!

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
To see Austin's runway show and hear him talk about it (or read what he said) click on the link above this thread and then in the lower right hand corner, at least now, there is a place to click where it takes you to the text and a great long video that shows his entire collection on the runway at the same show.

He says he was only given 1.5 months and probably no support from Tim and he wished he could have shown better but still you can see what he came up with and his presence on the runway as well.

Gina8642
Member

06-01-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked some of Austin's stuff. It was surprisingly less costumy than the other three. I guess he took that critique to heart. I didn't like his music. His last gown was beautiful.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 3:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh wow!!! I loved Austin's collection!!! I could see the theme, the continuity, the story it told. What beautiful clothes!
Too bad Wendy Pepper got to the finals. He looked so bittersweet...and rather butch for him too!
Now I know why he was dressed like he was at the reunion show, wonder why he didn't wear it at the runway show.

Teachmichigan
Member

07-22-2001

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for both the pictures and the video. :-) I enjoyed his collection -- he and Kara both design such beautiful clothes. I'm looking forward to next season!

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Thursday, February 24, 2005 - 8:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really really loved Jay's collection--it seemed very contemporary and it reminded me of the best of early Marc Jacobs and Steven Sprouse without seeming imitative of them at all. I admired the way he brought a street sensibility to his designs and the powerful vision he had. I'd be more than happy to wear a couple of his things to a club!

I also liked Kara's, but they didn't speak to me as much. Wendy's? Meh. I thought all that stuff was available at malls across America.

Wendo
Member

08-07-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that the right person won the show. (Ironically, Jay never won a challenge.) I thought his collection was forward thinking, imaginative, and unique. Elements of his designs would easily translate to a wonderful clothing line. Jay has real talent; not only that, his collection showed how much he improved thoughout the competition. Further, of the final three, his collection reflected his theme the best; it was also consistent in every piece. He has quite a career in front of him, imo.

I thought Kara's collection was nice, but I didn't think she deserved to win. I did agree with Michael Kors that some of her pieces had a Gucci feel to them. Yes, she said she's designed that way for years, but it doesn't matter in that business. This is where you really saw the difference between Jay and Kara's collections. Her designs were good, solid and well crafted. But, they weren't new and unique designs; designs that would set new trends as Jay's collection would. Additionally, her mistakes with the length of a couple of the dresses was not good. One dress the model can barely walk in and another the model has to hold it up to keep from face planting right on the runway. It looked unprofessional. Further, I didn't dig the whole Aviator theme; it wasn't terrible but it wasn't as wow inducing as Jay's was. (I think some of her outfits came out more retro than she may have wanted.)

There were a couple of things I liked in Wendy's collection but it was so obvious that it didn't hold a candle to Jay and Kara's collections. No cohesive story, no theme, and a lack of attention to details such as accessories were very apparent. Wendy's designs were nice, just uninspired.

I did take a look at Austin's collection. Some very nice stuff in there, I agree. I didn't get a strong sense of theme however I do realize he didn't have as much time as the others to put something together. It's too bad he failed so badly during the last challenge because I do agree that having him go up against Kara and Jay would've been interesting. (Still think Jay would've won though.)

Now, as to a couple of other things on the show. I was really disappointed in Kara. Kara, how old are you? Are you still in high school? You can't sleep in the same room with someone despite your lack of feelings for them? Grow up. Kara went down a few notches for me. Her behavior, imo, was immature.. For crimeny sakes, act like an adult. (She's staying for free in one of the nicest hotels in NYC and she sleeps on the couch because she'd have to share a room with Wendy. Poor form.)

And to not talk to Wendy at all. IMO, that's just so childish. It's no better than some of the behavior Kara was knocking Wendy for. It really didn't reflect well on her.

I also found it a bit shady the whole shoe thing with Kara. It was so obvious those shoes would be hundreds of dollars each. To say they were $15 a pair was an obvious attempt to get one over on the producers. I don't think she handled that well at all, complaining about how Jay and Wendy were getting shoes from Michael Kors why couldn't she take the custom ones.

I thought Jay came off the best during the finale show; accepting the fact that there were things he really disliked about Wendy, but also things that he liked. He behaved as Kara Saun should've behaved. He seemed to realize that people have their flaws and aren't perfect.

Wendy had that "I'm the underdog" thing going but at times it was annoying. Yeah, we get it, you're the villianess on the show, no need to keep milking it. I do think, though, that Wendy came off a lot better during finale than during past shows. It's too bad she wasn't like that the whole time. Oh well, live and learn.

Overall, an unexpected surprise of a show that I thouroughly enjoyed.

Bring on Season 2!

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 7:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    



ADVANCED OFFICIAL TRANSCRIPT OF "PROJECT RUNWAY" WINNER JAY MCCARROLL ON CNBC'S "THE BIG IDEA WITH DONNY DEUTSCH"

http://www.nbcumv.com/release_detail.nbc/cnbc-20050224000000-advancedofficialtr.html

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
wow..that was a weird interview, wasn't it?? (or was it just me??)

Is that the DONNY DEUTSCH of Apprentice fame??? I thought he offered jay excellent advise

"DEUTSCH: Find a business partner, and I would take that initial 100 grand,
don't spend it on designing the clothing, because you'll have to be able to
find backers to raise money. The right business partner will be able to raise
a lot more of that based on where you are right now, and I would take that
first 100 grand, find the best publicists, and if we see you in the magazines
and we see you in the spreads and celebrities are wearing your stuff, it just
goes bang. "

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 1:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow. Jay definitely needs a publicist because if he keeps doing interviews as contentious as that one is, it will be hard for him to get backing. Can you picture that conversation with a potential financial investor? EEK!

Jan
Member

08-01-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 1:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
yep, I agree Max. He really seemed to be going off on Donnie for some reason.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Haha! Donny got just what he deserves from almost all his guests on his silly little show that nobody watches. I loved when Jay said, "are you mocking me?" because of the toilet paper remark. There are words for Donny that would fit in with the alliteration of his name quite well.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 8:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What a strange incoherent interview.. and Jay is being Jay.. just like the night he stood around and asked if anyone wanted to interview Jesus.. and he didn't win that competition. He definitely needs someone putting him out there until/unless he is the "in thing" in which he'll have a time frame when he can be strange or trash people and get away with it.

In that dept Kara and Austin excell..

Penpoint
Member

03-27-2001

Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I wonder if hearing/watching the Donny Deutch interview on television is as painful as reading it.