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Azlen
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08-27-2000

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 1:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay, I am going to have to sit down and be calm about this. It will be very difficult, so I may have to take some tranquilizers or something but...I don't know if I can even say it...here goes, Josh Wolk is not doing the episode recaps for Entertainment Weekly this season. How can they do this to me? His recaps were the only reason to even watch "The Real World".
Okay, I just need to relax......Okay better.

Note to Sarah: Sarah, You are not the type of girl that a guy wants to have a relationship with, you are the type of girl that some guys may want to spend a couple of hours with and then never see you again. If they have your number they may call you six months later, if they are lonely or something, to spend another of couple of hours with you but that's going to be about it. When a guy is living with you then he can't exactly avoid you for the next 4 months so he isn't going to be all that excited to head to your bed, so give it up already. Then again, you could just go on Road Rules.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved the first show!!

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Wednesday, September 08, 2004 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Azlen, I am depressed now! No Josh to laugh at after the show?! Maybe it was all the fanmail I sent to him after I read each recap. I hope he doesn't think I'm stalking him. Seriously, that is very disappointing. He made the show for me.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Josh who?

Az.. actually from he self description she doesn't want a relationship, either!

And of course The Smoking Gun has found something on one of them already.. Landon drunk as a skunk and assaulting a horse.. (a horse with a cop on it)

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, September 09, 2004 - 1:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sea, Josh Wolk did recaps for Entertainment Weekly after every Real World show. They were hilarious! He's a very sharp and witty writer and put the things we all are thinking after watching this show, into just the right comedic words. Azlen turned me on to reading it and I didn't miss it every week.

Not1worry
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07-30-2002

Friday, September 10, 2004 - 6:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mamie, you might like the TWoP recaps. They post a recaplet the day after the show, and then a full recap later in the week.

I finally watched the show last night. How long was the premiere? I watched almost all of an hour before I had to get some sleep, so I was hoping it wasn't a 90 minute show.

This cast is much more likeable so far than San Diego. I like Shavonda the best so far. I can barely stand to watch Sarah. For a time in my 20's, I had some of her same attitudes and it wasn't till years later I realized how destructive it was. It's not about sex, Sarah, it's self-respect! Ugghh...I probably wouldn't have listened to anyone at that age either.

I did not like Karamo. He seems to be power-tripping on his "coming out". Slowly feeding info to people, asking them to keep it secret, dropping hints - that's all too much game playing. I can understand that he was concerned about MJ's and Landon's reaction, but I hope that HE learned a lesson from them as well. Not everyone is going to have the bad, close minded reaction.

I hope this bunch is not as lazy and unmotivated as San Diego.

Sweetbabygirl
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08-31-2002

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!! As a Philly resident, it has been mega-cool pointing at all the places that they are visiting....man, I'm so jealous that they got to vacation in Fiji!!

Not into MJ at all, he rubs me the wrong way. As for Sarah, she really needs to watch the DVD of the Uma Thurman movie, Hysterical Blindness....God she is <> so far from sexy it isn't even funny.

<QT>

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 1:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sbgirly!!! Did you get in on any of the filming??

Sweetbabygirl
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08-31-2002

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 1:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, if the (wide lens) camera pans to a huuuuuuuuge butt in black pants with a long weave, then you'll know it is me, lol!!

Actually, my friend knows the guy that Willie dated. I am looking forward to the roomies going to the gay clubs, I haven't been out in a long time, I shall be looking to see if the regulars are still there.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - 2:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ohhhhh Yeah! Our own stalker!!!

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well did your friend get to be on camera?

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Sunday, September 12, 2004 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
SBG, were you hanging at Woody's trying to get some face time?

Sweetbabygirl
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08-31-2002

Tuesday, September 14, 2004 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL!! I spoke to my friend last night, and he said that his friend might have....apparently, you have to sign some papers to be seen on screen and I believe that he did. The guy is supposed to be seen during the Gay Pride Parade, I need to find out exactly what he will look like.

Damn, me and my cousin were supposed to go to the parade this year but got lazy!

No Tish, you won't find me at Woody's....too bad my friend punked out on being seen, he is a hottie!!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, September 22, 2004 - 7:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
THE EMERGING NEW FACE OF BLACK GAY AMERICA: MTV's Real World Philadelphia
By Jasmyne Cannick link

This year Noah's Arc broke ground as the first black gay series. Showtime introduced three black gay men on the political reality show American Candidate. ABC's The Benefactor, features a black gay man as well. MTV is following suit with a black gay man on this season's Real World.

Last Tuesday night, over one million jaws dropped across America in unison as MTV's Real Word Philadelphia cast found out which of their new roommates were gay. No one probably ever suspected that the clean cut and handsome Black boy from Los Angeles by way of Houston would be dropping the bombshell that he wasn't one of the assumed "straight" members of the household. Ah, but the plot thickens! Not only is he gay, but he's not the finger-snapping overly effeminate gay man that America has grown comfortable with. No, Karamo, at first glance, appears to be your average urban, hip-hop loving, straight brotha, and for the most part that's accurate if you replace straight with gay.

KARAMO
The youngest of four, the 23 year old, Florida A&M Business Administration graduate is perfectly comfortable with his sexuality and hopes his "coming out" experience will put a new face on Black gay men. In a recent interview he explained, "My sexuality doesn't define who I am. I am a Black man first and foremost."

That may be so, but how has Black America reacted to this new face on gay America? "While I was in College Park, Atlanta, I had these real hardcore looking brothas come up to me on the street and give me props for coming out," explained to Karamo. "I've received support from people age 18 to 70 since coming out on the show. It's amazing because I thought people were going to attack me or something like that, but no, it's been all positive."

Since wrapping the show, Karamo is back in Los Angeles and has hit the ground running. An avid activist, Karamo is now focusing his energies and time on issues that affect the Black gay community. "I plan on volunteering with Black gay advocacy organizations like the National Black Justice Coalition," said Karamo. "The fight against AIDS is also important to me and I want to assist with getting the message out that we [Black gay men] are still dying from this disease."

The son of Jamaican parents, Karamo is disgusted with homophobic reggae artists like Beenie Man. "Artists like Beenie Man promote hatred and murder," explained Karamo. "Reggae is beautiful music but not when it's being used promote the murder of gays."

Karamo recently attended a special screening of Noah's Arc in Hollywood, the first all Black gay series. "I hope that with all of these fresh new and positive images of Black gays emerging that America especially Black America will realize that we're [gays] an important part of the community," commented Karamo. "We have lives, jobs and families like everyone else. Anything that I can do to help get that message out there I will."

You can check out Karamo every Tuesday

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Saturday, September 25, 2004 - 11:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like Kamaro - but once again MTV's hype was inaccurate. They claimed that one cast member "comes out" on the show.

The guy was already out when he came on the show. That was clear in his phone calls home to friends. I think MTV just didn't want to announce it, so folks would have to do some guessing. And, if you listen to MJ (? - the blond with curls), Kamaro told them he was gay the second night - that isn't exactly waiting around and playing games. I don't think a gay person is obligated to go "Hi, my name is [ldfkjd] and I'm gay". Of course, neitehr should you put down someone's name as a hint. (A la "I hate the name William") LOL

I'm really glad they cast a gay guy who is quiet. I think it's pretty obvious to most people when some flamboyant guy is gay. These are the ones we all know about in our lives, because it is so darn obvious. But there are also quiet non-famboyant gay people. So, unless you are their close friend, they don't feel any need to announce it from rooftops. They too are part of the gay community - and I'm glad Kamaro is there to represent.

I barely watched the San Diego season - frankie was about the only interesting person in the cast. This one looks a bit better.

BTW - why is everyone obsessed with MJ? The guy is very odd looking to me? Perhaps he's a person who looks better in real life than on camera. He doesn't look very handsome to me. Time will tell I guess...

Bastable
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07-09-2002

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have yet to have a "straight" person come out to me as straight. Maybe MJ should have come out as a straight boy before lighting into Karamo for hiding something.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 10:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow MJ and that Landon were WAY wrong tonight and they wouldn't even admit it. Karamo gets harassed like that and MJ just wants him to calm down? Sorry, but that's just the wrong answer; he never even wanted to cope with trying to understand or feel empathetic for Karamo. Too much drama. And the Philadelphia police have a history as ignoble as those in NYC, NO, and LA when dealing with young black men. But please don't let that interrupt fantasyland...

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 7:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Very emotional episode last night. I felt so bad for Karamo, I couldn't believe what happened to him. It almost seemed like an MTV setup or something, who the heck called and said Karamo had a gun? Unbelievable. I honestly think MJ was drunk and in his mind trying to help the situation when he should've just let Karamo cool off on his own. Who doesn't hate it when you're upset and someone tells you to calm down. Landon at least was quiet and seemed to know when to shut up. I think MJ wants to understand but doesn't know how to. The previews look interesting, looks like MJ will want to have a friendship with Karamo but looks like Karamo may push him away.

Gina, IA, MJ is not so good looking to me either, his eyes are kind of odd, but I guess in his way he's sexy...

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 7:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
also... I was very touched by what Sarah said to Shavonda about treating her to lunch, etc. I have a friend who's literally broke and when I invite her out I pay, nothing to do with charity but wanting the company of a wonderful friend. I was so sorry to hear of Shavonda's abuse by her mom and neglect from her dad.

Max
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08-12-2000

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Whenever the RW is in a city, there are lots of folks who don't like it. It's really not too surprising to me that someone dropped a dime on Karamo. Jealousy is a terrible thing. :-) As to why they would tip to Karamo and not MJ or Landon, that seems pretty easy to me. He's black. Police are much more likely to believe that a black man would have a gun than the fresh-faced white blond boys. Sad, but true. I think that's the part that MJ had the hardest time getting his head around. Karamo is used to being singled out like this (not in the sense that he accepts it, but in the sense that it happens so often). Ever hear of getting pulled over for DWB? That's "Driving While Black" and it happens WAY too often to regular folks who happen to be in nice cars. This is a reality of life that MJ hasn't seen or experienced.

I can understand Karamo's anger -- it comes from frustration and feeling helpless. And then when he kept yelling for MJ and MJ didn't hear him, he got more frustrated (MJ was kind of oblivious when talking to that girl -- had to wonder how he didn't even notice the commotion for so long). Finally, when MJ was there, Karamo wanted his friend to sympathize with the situation and share his anger/frustration, but that's not what MJ did. Instead, he went into peacekeeper mode and that just made Karamo's frustration grow.

I don't think either of them did anything particularly 'wrong,' but this situation showed how far apart their individual experiences of the world are. I can understand both sides of it. If Karamo freezes MJ out for a while, I don't think it will last the rest of the season. I'm betting that after some time passes, these two find a much deeper understanding of each other's worlds and end up being pretty darned good friends.

At least I hope so. This is a great opportunity for both of them to expand their thoughts on what it's like for each other in the 'real world.' :-)

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 10:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Excellent Post, Max. I know what you're saying, and it's not just in the big city. My son got pulled over by a trooper while driving my car. Fortunately, he was driving home from football practice and there were other football players (white) that stopped with him because they knew he hadn't done anything wrong.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nothing can aggravate me more than a so called friend or loved one nullifying my hurt feelings by telling me to relax and keep quiet. And this was more than hurt feelings…this was clearly race driven. I do understand that the police have to respond to tips and I thought they did a fair job but never the less he had an absolute right to be pissed at the situation and an absolute right to be pissed at his roommate.

I actually like this season more than any since Miami...yup been watching these shows way to long.

I was touched too by the offer of footing the meal bills.


Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
IA that this season is starting out much more interesting and "deep" than the last couple of seasons. Let's hope it doesn't end up disappointing us. Karamo is a very special guy and I hope to see his full personality come out in this season.

Lurkin
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02-15-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Couple things I took from the Karamo situation was:

Some little man with a striped shirt on looked like he was with MTV stated something about His mic pack looked like a gun. Didnt seem like some person just picked out a black guy to say he had a gun

I saw MJ not telling K to be quiet and calm down in a negative way. He was screaming so much and calling so much attention that the cops were still around could have got him on other charges. And he was off the wall to MJ who was drinking I can see where MJ was trying to figure out what was going on. He couldnt help K with the screaming going on to understand what the situation was.

Cops were black that confronted K. And the # of them grew with K's story retelling

Seems to me cops were doing their jobs checking out a call

Dont care what race, sex or plant your from in times like these especially big cities take a da@#n chance offending someone if you think some one may be armed.

I am white female and have been pulled out of every airport, court house and disney line searched lately randomly. So has my white teenage son. Yep I am darnned inconvienced but not pitching a fit. Granny had her knitting needles taken away, but dont think she got up in anyones face about that.

My white 21 year old son was pulled over last week for no reason his licensed checked and sent on his way. Been told not to stand on the street move along.
He wasn't screaming they just did this because I am white and I am 1/8th Middle Eastern heritage.

K has his back hairs up looking for a fight on this episode. Yes rascism exsists, profiling exsits , Not right very wrong but so does over reacting and drama.

I have many black friends and I have been discrimated against by black people too. Goes both ways.


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My posts usually get ignored. I am sure that I will get nothing but attacked, but am in a bad mood today and decided to add additional thoughts on this subject.

Essence
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01-12-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think MJ could have given Karamo a little time to calm down instead of basically telling him it was that big a deal. How would MJ know if it were a big deal or not if it hasn't happened to him.

I also don't think being pulled out of an airport security line or disney line for random searching can be equated to this situation... but that's just me.

No, it's never personally happened to me, but I have enough men in my family that this sort of thing happens to on a regular basis. I don't care how "nice" you are about it or how accomodating you are, it still makes someone angry to be on the receiving end of this sort of treatment time and again as Karamo has stated he has been.

It's easy to sit in your home after watching the episode and say how out of control Karamo was or that he could have handled it a different way.