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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 11:42 am
Costacat, you are right. Those lobsters were already cooked. I'm not sure how overcooking would affect them, but with shrimp, it makes them rubbery. The one that they showed looked like it had exploded. Maybe they put it in the microwave to warm it up and - boom! Typically, before they are cooked, Succulent Lobsters have a natural coloring, dark greenish-black or brown. Cooking will change their color to the bright red most of us think of when we think of lobster. Always pick up lobsters by the body, never by the claws or tail. (Hold on firmly as they may wiggle). Do not remove rubber bands. http://www.lobster.com/info_handling.htm
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, January 17, 2005 - 1:17 pm
Eacollins, there's a difference between judging someone (for a competition) and being snotty about it. It was his snotty attitude that I disliked. If you overcook lobster (as in, you throw 'em in the pot and boil 'em for 10 minutes), yes, they will come out rubbery. But I suspect those were cooked and previously frozen. Depending on how they are defrosted and cooked the second time, they could turn into mush. Lobsters are similar to shrimp and crab in that they change color as they cook (or are exposed to heat). Lobster meat is transluscent uncooked, and becomes opaque when cooked (as does shrimp and crab). Overcooking any shellfish will turn it into rubber (have you ever had overcooked scallops? you could play super ball with 'em!). And oh yeah! How could they NOT realize that the lobsters were already cooked, and prepare the dish accordingly? It sounded like what's her name's recipe would've worked for fresh lobster. But I can't believe no one else said anything (like, "oh, those are already cooked, will your recipe still work?"). I guess, based on that, I retract my "Crafty Beavers should've lost" thought. Team Artisan is pretty dysfunctional!
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:50 am
How could they NOT realize that the lobsters were already cooked I suddenly thought HEY!! not all of these people are cooks... for instance, the lady that does the sewing as her specialty...or the guy who does wood working? Maybe I'm incorrect but I dont think that all of these people are equal in training. That one young goodlooking guy often seems lost and he is rarely even seen during tasks.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:32 am
Could the judges have been acting the part of over the top, obnoxious, impossible to please guests just to see how the "hosts" would react and respond?
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Eacollins
Member
10-30-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 6:50 am
I wondered if the judges were being obnoxious on purpose as well, including Flay's late arrival.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:03 am
I’d bet that all the obnoxious behavior and Flay’s late arrival was a set up. The purpose is to see how they react. Although it’s rare, people can be just as obnoxious as these people were and sometimes even worse. I’m shocked that these seemingly intelligent contestants didn’t see right through their plan. Well some did and others didn’t. Last week I posted that I’m looking forward to see who starts the sabotage and it looks like Michelle sabotaged not only Darlene by not giving up the flour but her entire team because the food sucked. Looking for the sabotage again this week.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 11:13 am
I think they judges are just judging every detail very hard. I think the late thing was a set-up too. To add to the judging.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:26 pm
to see if any appetizers were left over....that was a HUGE point that the judges made with both teams. They wanted to see how well the party was planned. Considering the stilted behaviour and awkward partychat at the pool party, I still think the team WON because of the available appe for Bobby Flay AND the decorations of the main table. This is a great show. I am really enjoying it and all of our different views/ opinions.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 1:28 pm
I totally disagreed with Bobby about the appetizer for late guests. I agree you be gracious and welcome them (rather than beating them up for being late) but holding back food from your guests who had the common courtesy and respect to show up on time is the rude act!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:22 pm
I don't know, I always make sure I have extra appetizers. I've never ever run out. I always have leftovers. You never know when something is going to be a big hit OR when someone will show up late. It's just good planning. I've NEVER had someone show up late and specifically ask for the appetizers but if they did I would always have some extra. Really how could they have run out???? Was this yet another flour story?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 2:29 pm
I never run out of food either, but to slow the service of dinner down to wait on the late guest is rude too.
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 3:31 pm
Kinda off topic a wee bit. My husband and I are notoriously known for being late. My mother, several years ago decided to serve dinner without us being there. That took care of us being late. But I kept insisting to her that it's rude not to wait. I was quickly told it's rude-r to be constantly late. But I'm certain Flay's lateness was part of the plan. Unlike mine.
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 6:29 pm
I think part of the appetizers thing was that they were supposed to be planning a dinner party for 12. So if two judges and the rest of the team all had an appetizer (or even two) there certainly should be some left for the late arriving judge since the number of people there was certainly less than 12. I think it was a test and a check to see how well they planned the amount of food. Also, I think that team lost partly due to the fact they were supposed to be planning a french dinner and did not really have much/any french items.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, January 18, 2005 - 8:08 pm
Actually, you want to run out of appetizers if you plan to serve a full meal later on. You don't want your guests to fill up on snacks before dinner. I also would never hold back an appetizer for a guest who failed to show on time, particularly if the appetizer was served warm. It is not rude to start a dinner without a guest. It is rude of the guest to be late. Yeah, sometimes you can't help it. But the host is not obligated to hold dinner up to wait for a lone, lagging guest.
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Cousin_jake
Member
07-04-2002
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 6:50 am
I guess I'm the only one who watched this last night. (Can't watch the Donald except on tape where I can ff through his scenes) I thought Mychael's food was great, as usual. The only food in their menu that got any criticism was Mitch's fried trout. That guy is a piece of work. I knew they'd take the opportunity to boot Mychael as she seemed to be very strong competition. It'll be interesting to see if her former team can step up to the plate food wise now that she's gone. Denise seems like a strong competitor. Her decor ideas at the campsite went over very well with the judges. I was glad to see them win one.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:00 am
I watched! I couldn't believe the turkey burgers! Loved Mychael's food and wasn't surprised when they booted her off, but I liked that survival bag! I am contstantly amazed that bad food gets overlooked for good decorations.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:08 am
Did she use anything "natural" in/on that survival bag? Wasn't the prerequisite to use anything they found there at the campsite? Looks to me that everything was from a store. (material for the bag as well as everything in it.) That was stupid and she did deserve to go for that alone. (Even though I am thinking she could have/maybe should have won the whole thing.)
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:09 am
I am also surprised the judges didn't gush more over the bathroom. I thought that was a great idea.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:18 am
Julie, you are right, I forgot they were supposed to use natural elements. Boo on the bag!!
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Lori
Member
04-18-2003
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:57 am
That bathroom was awesome! Interesting that team Artisan continually cooks badly. If they had lost last night, it definitely would have been that awful dinner. It really was a shame that Mychael got the boot. Such a great cook. She should have toned that down a bit...she was just too much competition for the others. Her survival bag was not that original. I'm guessing her strength is cooking...period.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 11:18 am
Here's an interview done with Tom: "The Contestants on This Show Are Amazingly Creative and Talented" - An Interview with Wickedly Perfect's Tom by Jenn Brasler -- 01/21/2004 http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article0298.art&page=1 Does Tom have any regrets? What happened with the soup? And why did he make a deal with Kimberly? Find out inside! RealityNewsOnline: Thanks for doing this interview! I think people will really enjoy hearing from you. First of all, how did you hear about Wickedly Perfect? Tom: My wife and I were on the CBS website buying a Survivor buff for my younger son. We saw a teaser ad for the application and started filling it out for fun. RNO: What exactly about the show appealed to you? Tom: I think we have a lot more two-career families out there that require the husbands to be accomplished at some of the domestic household responsibilities as a way to share the load with their wives. Over the years I've become a self-taught gourmet cook, excellent event planner… and I am frequently sought out for advice on questions of style and design. I thought it was time for a domestic icon who can fix both a pâté and a toilet. RNO: Did you connect with any other competitor? Tom: Believe it or not, I am pretty friendly with all of the other contestants. As they were eliminated, I was cooking five-course meals for each of them on two hotplates while sequestered. RNO: Who did you see as your biggest competition? Tom: I knew from the start that my personal style was more compatible with the Beavers, and I sensed they all had a clear vision and strong personalities. I also flagged Margo as the one to beat on my team. RNO: Why did you offer to sacrifice your spot on the show for Kimberly? Tom: Kimberly was very, very upset after the judging and I felt badly for her. I was trying to be a gentleman. I was also quite angry because we had agreed prior to the judging that we had failed the challenge as a team, and we would not point fingers at one another to save ourselves. I felt that Darlene violated that understanding and was not being particularly sensitive to Kim, who was crying right next to her. Believe it or not, I really wasn't calling the shots on our team; I intentionally tried to back off of that approach in the first challenge. The moments where you see me making suggestions were usually out of desperation because our mutually agreed plans weren't coming together. RNO: Why did you change your mind? Tom: Kimberly and I had a private chat prior to the judging where we mutually agreed she would be "targeted" for elimination automatically if everyone knew I gave her the immunity. That would have defeated the purpose of my offer to be voted off instead of her. So we pulled the team aside and told them to vote "fairly" with a wink. Please make sure to ask all of the other players if they had the chance to do it over again, would they still vote me off first. You will probably get a different answer. RNO: What do you think was the biggest obstacle for your team during the apple challenge? Tom: Not having a full team was our biggest obstacle. We had to share both the kitchen and the workshop with the other team and we had to start in the kitchen. By the time Kim and Dawn got back from the grocery, we only had about 20 minutes of kitchen time left during our first shift. Kim and Dawn then left for the fabric store and, unfortunately, they were also the wood-workers on our team, so we struggled quite a bit in the shop as well. RNO: Did any of your teammates challenge your first impressions? Tom: Everyone pretty much turned out the way I first thought they were… although one particular player seemed to confuse me at every turn. RNO: How did you feel being the only guy on your team? Tom: I didn't expect there to be many guys on the show, so I didn't really think about it until we got to the house and I realized I would be sharing a bedroom with all of my female teammates. That was a little weird, but fortunately, we didn't have much time for sleeping anyway. RNO: If you could, what would you have done differently? Tom: Anyone who knows me will tell you I would never serve soup in a pot the way it looked on the show. We were trying to keep the soup warm because it had been on and off the stove so many times that day. There was a china bowl with bouquet garnish right next to that pot where the soup was to be poured at the last minute. That didn't happen. For a full explanation, you should check out my recipe on the CBS website. I also would not have let Dawn talk me into the tacky table presentation with the fake hydrangeas. That is about as far removed from my style as I am from the moon. RNO: Any regrets? Would you do the show again? Tom: I have several small regrets because in spite of all the arguing that takes place on television, we all laughed more than you can imagine. I am a little sorry I came across as so dark-hearted and mean as I did. Once again, you should ask the other players if that's the "me" they know. It's not. Believe it or not, I'm still pretty popular with members of both teams. I'm also sorry I made that rambling speech in the rock garden. Because I was pretty confident I was leaving before the actual vote, I thought this would be my one chance to try and set the record straight on what had happened. Instead, I sounded like a bad H&R Block commercial - "reason number 74, etc." My biggest regret of all is that I wish it would have been a full-blown talent contest like American Idol rather than a "game" with the accompanying sleep deprivation, interpersonal conflict, etc. The contestants on this show are amazingly creative and talented. You won't believe what they can create from virtually nothing with no time and limited resources. Sometimes the talent gets obscured by the drama. And in spite of all of that, I would probably do the show again. It was a once in a lifetime experience and I made some incredible friends. RNO: Thanks so much for taking the time to do this. Good luck in the future! Jenn Brasler is an aspiring writer from Falls Church, VA. You can e-mail her at luckyjenn@hotmail.com. She's trying to decide whether to use her powers for good…or evil.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 12:02 pm
All I can say is I must spend too much time out in the woods, because I couldnt believe their whole set up!! Couldnt get a fire going, frying fish like that... LOL... ah I would've loved to have seen some dutch oven cooking!! And one bed??? um I dont think so... but the bathroom was over the top - it was great, only I would've deducted points for a burning candle inside that structure, but again, that's the scouter in me!! lol
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Hereiam
Member
03-29-2002
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 5:23 pm
So who will cook for team beaver now?
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:00 pm
The trouble with this setup is that the best people get voted off ASAP. I agree with Tom, that it would be better if it were a real talent contest. Why not give them a certain amount of points for each task, some points for everyone on the winning team, and then points for the individual projects? The drama would be who was getting the most points each week and guessing who would eventually win.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, January 21, 2005 - 7:25 pm
I would be spending most of my time on my project, that way even if the team lost I wouldnt go.
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