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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:40 pm
Not that big of a spoiler since we already know that Jesse made the final four. So he's fighting on Tuesday (either in the finals against Peter, or in the Bronze fight against Alfonso), depending on the outcome of his fight against Sergio. But setting up a fight with Jesse up in Reno? That's just publicity. Gilbert's company is Jesse's manager now. One of the nice things about this show - many of these guys are real friends for life. And I love reading Alfonso's comments about each episode. I don't read his forums but I hear he is a regular poster and answers questions. 'squeek'
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 8:02 pm
*possible spoiler* the article said "fight on Tuesday’s card". Maybe I'm just assuming, but wouldn't that refer to an under card fight? (which I believe the Contender is referring to as a "Bronze" fight) They should have just said "Tuesday's fight".
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 8:32 pm
Every fight is considered to have a "card". It's just boxing lingo for X versus Y. I love Alfonso's comments on his website, too. 
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 9:17 pm
Okay, now I'm confused. So they're going to have 4 fights going on with 8 of the previous losers and they'll all be shown online on Tuesday? Why did they bother with the voting? With one deceased, one pulling out and the final four not included in the vote, they really only needed to eliminate two people. Will the online fights be shown live, or pre-taped and then posted afterward? Is the final fight for the Contender championship going to be shown live, or will that be taped in advance? Sorry for all the questions, but it would just be cool to watch it live like a regular fight instead of edited. It's a shame the show was canceled. They should've just changed the time slot or maybe aired it in the summer months.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 10:15 pm
Right, Kona ... that was not a spoiler ... we already know that Jesse will be on the card for the final Tuesday show ...
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 8:21 am
Thanks Max for the clarification on the meaning of "card". Wow - I'm learning about boxing! I apologize for claiming a possible spoiler. I didn't realize that the losers of the final 4 are automatically fighting in the under card fights. I missed hearing or reading that. My understanding is that the final fight at Caesars is live. Don't know when/how they will be posting the under card fights on Yahoo. Can't remember where I read about it. I wonder when they'll announce the final match-ups. Do we know when Sunday's fight (the final of the final 4) actually took place? (how long ago they taped it) I'm just wondering how much time they have till the live fight.
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 4:52 pm
Alfonso's fight with Peter was in September 2004. Originally this show was suppose to premier Fall of 2004. All the fighters have been paid weekly to keep training and were not allow to book any fights until the show's finale. The seating for the final fight is by 4p, the fight will be televised live (on the East Coast) and tape delay every where else. Tickets for the early round fights (the undercards) as voted on the internet started @ $50 and you have to be there by 9am on Tuesday. Tickets for the finals were starting at $300. Can't access any more information now (it's all sold out). 'squeek'
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 5:07 pm
Gee, that timeline really makes me question Joey's broken rib problem. THere's certainly been plenty of time for him to heal. Wonder what's really going on? SER-GI-O! SER-GI-O! SER-GI-O! 
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 7:17 pm
According to the article, the broken ribs were from his bout on Sept 18th vs Peter, but "Gilbert said he had reinjured the ribs in sparring sessions with heavyweight Jeremy Williams and middleweight Sergo Mora, who also appeared on The Contender." Sergo is probably been in a training camp up in the Reno area with Joey since they stopped filming the show last fall. 'squeek'
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 7:29 pm
Fan Favorite Bouts have been announced: http://contender.tv.yahoo.com/01/fanfavorites.html Ishe vs Brent 10AM PST Anthony vs Jeff 11AM PST Jimmy vs Tarick 12PM PST Interesting comment posted at TWOP: ETA : a mesage from Alfonso from his website's forum : " just so you guys know, yesterday brent, jeff, ishe all agreed that it would be better if Jeff and Brent fought, and Ishe and Anthony fought, so they agreed except Anthony....the three of them called Anthony and talk to him for a while about it..but Anthony said NO.... I talk to Brent and that's what he told me... " 'squeek'
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 8:18 pm
very interesting, thanks, Konamouse.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:14 pm
ugh - so Anthony is in the undercard fights. Why am I not surprised he wants to stick with Jeff - the smallest guy. And if someone drops out, then Amhed is in. I didn't like Ahmed either, but I would like to see Anthony have to fight him. I'm surprised Ahmed even ranked where he did on the voters favorites. His attitude sucked, and he lost both of his fights. What's the draw in watching him fight again? I must be missing something. Do we know what the stakes are for the undercard fights? Is there any monetary prize? Or is it just something to count towards their record?
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 10:46 pm
Oh, yay! Chicken pox guy is going to get to fight. I felt sorry for him. Too bad he won't have a shot at the big prize, but at least he won't be left out anymore. Seeing that he's fighting Anthony, I hope he wins! I wonder if the Contender viewers are mostly male or female. It could explain the votes for Ahmed.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 11:40 pm
While looking through posts at the Alfonso Gomez forum, I saw a link to this article: http://www.secondsout.com/USA/news.cfm?ccs=229&cs=16162 Have you all read this before? It's quite an eye-opener. I had wondered what the story was with Najai. So sad, and now he has a baby boy on the way. After following Big Brother for so many seasons I took it for granted that everyone knew these reality contestants are kept in isolation from the rest of the world while taping. I guess this writer saw this as unusual treatment and seems to suggest it had some bearing on Najai's emotional state.
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Friday, May 20, 2005 - 6:43 am
Great article, Curlq! 
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Friday, May 20, 2005 - 7:09 am
wow ... very interesting article, thanks for posting it
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, May 20, 2005 - 8:12 pm
Another article published earlier, by the same author. Notice the plug for his book at the bottom. 'squeek'
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 11:18 am
Great article, I didn't know she was pregnant. It is a very sad story.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Saturday, May 21, 2005 - 8:41 pm
I am not sure but I think MNBC is showing a Contender-athon. They have just finished the Brent / Bullet match last episode and now are showing the Tarek / Juan match. HURRAY!! this means I will be able to catch the two episodes I missed!!
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 6:11 pm
Wow...what a fight. These two semi-final bouts have been unbelievable. I can't wait to see the final. I have no idea who I am going to pull for. I want so much for both of these guys to win.
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Keepers
Member
03-31-2003
| Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 6:55 pm
I know I am not going to root for Peter but tonight's winner. Hurrah for tonight's winner (although I did like em both I felt bad for the loser)
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 7:07 pm
I like both of the guys in the finals ... I'm not sure who I'm going to pull for ... it will probably be Peter, though. I was getting kind of annoyed tonight at Sergio ... it was almost like he was taunting Jessie in the ring...
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:02 pm
Great fight tonight. Jessie went in with a lot more power and, statistically was the favorite. As Sergio said, "He hits hard!" Sergio did get cocky in the ring, but that's all part of the psychological aspect of boxing. Look back at Mohammed Ali's fights for the ultimate in psychological warfare in the ring. He was the all-time leader in being cocky and backing it up with skill. Sergio took punches well, watched his timing, looked for openings, and made the most of them. No doubt who I'm rooting for and have been for some time now. The Latin Snake all the way!!! 
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 10:16 pm
I don't pretend to know much about boxing, but I was shocked at how undisciplined Sergio seemed tonight. Dropping his guard all the time, taunting for no reason, and failing to finish off an opponent with an open cut? Seems like a recipe for disaster to me.
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Spear
Member
08-06-2001
| Monday, May 23, 2005 - 12:14 am
How do the boxers choose their cornermen? Or do they have any choice? Why does Tommy (the old, bald trainer) only give advice to one of the boxers during the fight? Actually, it seems that most of them (Stallone, Sugar Ray) have a favorite in each fight.
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