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Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
cant believe i started watching it 2 weeks ago and it has me so hooked that i was flipping back to it between Alias, WW, AI, and the carolina-duke game... why did they have to have all 5 starting at 9pm EST. :-)

next week will be interesting

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 9:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Wednesday, February 09, 2005 - 9:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ugh. Not quite as disappointing as the TAR finale, but close. Personally I really disliked Wendy's dress.

I found it odd that so many of the critiques of all the dresses is that they weren't slutty enough. Apparently fully covering your boobs is in bad taste these days? Now that is scary.

Wendy's dress was too short to me and the bodice just didn't cover right. I personally did not like the orange.

My favorite dress of the evening was Austin's. The drape and flow of the dress was just beautiful. I loved how it all fit together. Very nice. Funny/ironic how beautiful and glamorous didn't fit their ideal for a red carpet event. The prefer cheap and slutty? There is something wrong here...

I liked Jay's skirt and while I agree the top portion was rather bland - it was very odd to hear them diss it because it covered too much. Ugh!!!! This people are so far into la la land.

Kara's dress was a miss for me tonight - but she's made so much beautiful stuff in the past I didn't mind. It still had her beautiful lines though...

To me it is obvious that the producers have saved Wendy from elimination time and time again. To put her in the finals over Austin is beyond my comprehension.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 12:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well from the preview.. unexpected had to mean Wendy stayed :-(

What bothers me is that if they had to tweak any one of the outfits then they should have let them go back to the studio for, say, half an hour and tweak to see which one could take in the criticism and use it..

Then we'd see what Jay would do to the top.. what Karasaun would decide about her pants and beading.. (and that seemed like a lame reason to reject her anyway) .. what Austin would do to make it more "Grammy" and what Wendy would do instead of those ridiculous feathers..

and I agree that wasn't the best person to have judge the most important competition to date.

I agree, Gina, about the top of Wendy's dress.. it just looked UN finished. And I suspect that many an actress could have looked gorgeous in Austin's dress with the fun little skirt underneath... I DO NOT think his would have put anyone in the "what was she thinking?" column..

I'm just sad to see Wendy continue to survive and smugly gloat.

Seamonkey
Member

09-07-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting.. they auction off the outfits and Austin's is way ahead of the others:

week8 auction

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 6:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't hear that the judges were saying that the outfits weren't slutty enough.
I think what sold Wendy's outfit was her comment about it being a good shot from the waist up, and that was true BUT that was the only thing going for it!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I hated the orange, I think she picked it because Kara did! I hated Kara out fit, without the pants it did look more Grammy ish, but not a TV outfit!

I hated Austins, I cant believe not one person remarked that it reminded me of - the Dance of the 7 Veils!! Come on, really!! There was way too much material on top criss crossing every which way, and the bottom, that would've been stepped on all over the place, not conducive for interviewing if you have to watch your back... imo of course!!

I will agree that to judge on one outfit who goes into the finals is absurd... I was thinking they should've assigned points. 10 for winning outfits, -10 for crummy last place outfits... or some such number... then the final 3 would be based on the most points, or the best overall achievment, not on one comp.

Just a thought!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Once again, Tim gives me insight to things I hadn't considered.
http://www.bravotv.com/Project_Runway/Episode_9/Tims_Take_1.shtml

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tim's comments are always insightful, though I don't share his views on Wendy so much and even though she listened to him, I don't think that suddenly made her outfit "adorable".

And I really don't think she should have been allowed to take the material Kara had already chosen. However Tim may be correct that it wouldn't have made any difference to the celebrity judge.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's true that they did not use the word "slutty", but to me that is what they meant.

When the guy did the walk around in the work room he dissed Wendy's dress for not being short enough - at the time the sides came to mid-thigh but the front was several inches shorter. Her final design was extremely short. He also dinged Jay's top for not showing off the cleavage enough and Kara's for not showing leg. All of these outfits showed plenty of cleavage and leg prior to final look. In the end, Wendy's showed too much IMO. Kara stuck to her guns and did not change her design because she liked it. I'm not sure if Jay dropped the cleavage any or not.

To me, this was all an attempt to show too much - showing too much to me is - well - slutty. I am totally confused why muscians should be expected to dress slutty for their awards show but actors can dress glamorous and beautiful for theirs? IMO - it is a bizarre convention and some designers and muscians should take back some control and stop designing and wearing stuff like that.

I think I understand the idea that the grammys are more casual and more funky, but to me that doesn't mean women should be required to come dressed like - well - sluts. (Yikes - It is a strong word, isn't it?)

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's funny reading Tim's take where he gives kudos to Wendy for following the directions of the client instead of following her design instincts whereas Nora was booted for doing the same thing during the wedding dress competition. It's examples like this which make it clear to me how much the producers decided who stayed and who went.

The explanation on it's own sounds so logical, expect that is directly contradicts what they said so recently.

I notice that in both the bidding and in the ratings on which dress is best - Austin's wins easily and Wendy's is dead last. It's an ugly dress - she's had a few decent ones and this is not it.

Texannie
Member

07-16-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 1:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't wait to see the final product after all the tweaking on Nancy at the Grammy's!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One telling thing to me is one thing the judges or Tim commented on.. that Wendy doesn't seem to be a self starter.. she goes through agony over her designs and I also notice that her own attire shows no sense of her own "style".. Kara, I believe, is almost always wearing one of her own designs. Austin and Jay seem very comfortable with who they are and how they dress.. they HAVE a sense of style.

Also I feel sad that they let a minor celeb dictate what "Grammy style" is..

Some grammy winners certainly don't bow to those "rules".. I'm thinking of multiple winners line, oh.. Norah Jones just cuz she's a favorite of mine..

She seems to not require much window dressing :-)

nj

Penpoint
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03-27-2001

Thursday, February 10, 2005 - 11:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Interesting that Nancy O'Dell asked Austin to do her dress for the Oscars after he was informed that he was out. This just shows the difference between the style of dress for the Grammys and for the Oscars. The designers should have gotten a clue from the picture of Nancy O'Dell at the previous Grammys -- she was wearing some kind of denim top. They all should have done hipper, edgier designs (except Austin, who just doesn't do edgy!) Instead they were all too cautious, and went for old fashioned "glamour"!

I was really disappointed to see Wendy make the final three, as much because I disliked her attitude and demeanor as I did her designs. However, since she won the Banana Republic dress, and they are one of the sponsors of the show, that almost insured her a spot at the end.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree with everything I've read here (SIGH unfortunately I don't get to watch the show as it isn't shown here so I have to rely on the notes here and the website) BUT I must admit I much prefer that Austin is gone than the spoiler I read which had hinted that the surprise was that it was JAY that was eliminated!! Now that would really have bothered me. Since I figure the final 2 will be Kara and Jay I was stunned to read that spoiler and really glad to see it was not true! I hope Wendy goes next(PS I loved Austin's design)

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We all have to remember that Nancy is WORKING the red carpet, not WALKING on it. Austin's outfit would be gorgeous walking down the red carpet, all that flowing material...can't you just see the shot on ET?? LOL But Nancy would be talking to people mostly in headshots and all that flowing material would just look busy.

Landi
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07-29-2002

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i think the big clue to what was said from the show, austin's dress was an OSCAR dress, wendy's was a GRAMMY dress. i think we all are oscar people, not grammy people! i'd much rather wear the austin dress than the wendy dress, my 15 year old would rather wear the wendy dress than the austin dress. go figure!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think you are right, Landi! LOL
I wish I was tall enough and skinny enough to wear Kara's.
btw..i agree that pants made it more common (even though I liked them!)

Landi
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07-29-2002

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
another thing that drove me insane, was this. if a client was looking for a certain kind of dress, she would go to the kind of designer who does that certain kind of dress. she wouldn't make calvin klein do something bob mackie'ish. or vice versa. i'm proud of austin for keeping true to who he was.

Hummingbird
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08-21-2002

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have really enjoyed this show! I don't understand all the animosity toward Wendy though.
Why is it that she was the only one asked for an opinion on group leaders. She only told the the truth. These creative people just can't take critisism from one of their own.
This show would have been nowhere near as good without Austin who has entertained us each episode. I loved his "Envy" dress.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Frankly I think those working the carpet shouldn't be seeking the spotlight. I realize this isn't the majority feeling, but to me they should be in the background.. it isn't their night.. but that is the blurring of the lines between NEWS and ENTERTAINMENT..

Penpoint, that's an interesting comment and I suspect you are correct.. Wendy winning the Banana Republic competition.. I have had the feeling that she was somehow, incredibly, a lock for final three but I think you hit the nail on the head with the reason why..

landi.. great points you are making!!

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 2:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I imagine everyone was asked about the group leaders - it is just that her answers made the editorial cut. There is a tactful way to criticize and a back stabbing way. In her confessional interviews she pretty much admitted that her motives were back stabbing in order to get competition out, not honesty.

Wendy had definitely been cast as the villian by the editors of the show. However, that does NOT mean she wasn't guilty of the machiavellian methods shown on the show. She freely admitted to them during her confessional interviews.

She was also clearly beloved by many of the competitors at the beginning. Austin was excited to pick her for his team. Kara went through a lot of trouble and concern to make her over in order to give the judges a better impression of her. Wendy burned her own bridges with these folks over the time the show was filmed. We are simply being shown that. This was a mess of her own making. The criticizism and animosity the other contestants are showing her did not come out of the blue. I actually think the editors have done an excellent job of showing why they are all justifiably fed up with her.

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
BTW - I thought Austin's dress was the most beautiful from the chest up. Wendy's was cut so low that the interviewer was gonna look nearly naked in chest up interview shots - so I don't think it was necessarily the best for interviews.

I've never watched this woman's show, but I do watch ET. The hosts make a really big deal over their outfit selection for these awards shows. Often the do a whole segment on it. It is odd that they highlight themselves on their own show - but it is pretty standard procedure. So this orange lady wasn't doing anything out of the norm.

Antoher BTW - this lady seemed over 40 to me. Sorta too old to be wearing a super short skirt. I know that is ageist - but it certainly popped into my head as I was watching. The "what was she thinking" people will probably have the same thought...

Gina8642
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06-01-2001

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Nora Jones looks just perfect in the picture!!!! I think that dress is a class act all the way.

Ramsfan
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01-27-2004

Friday, February 11, 2005 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I've seen Nancy O. host "Nashville Star" on the USA network. She was always in something super short. Wendy's top reminded me of something she would wear, so when I saw it, I figured she would win.

I like Jay the best. He cracks me up every week with his snark.

Kara has nice designs and will probably win, but she annoys me in a way that I can't put my finger on.