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Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that it would've been good to go by the amount of fat lost instead of their weight. Watching them work out so much made me wonder if the weight they're gaining by building their muscles would offset the weight they're losing in fat.

Don't people tend to have the biggest weight loss in the first week of a diet? Something about water weight or something. The results may not be as dramatic in weeks to come.

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
YIC: There are a few similarities. But, unlike TIO, where each person is, in a sense, battling themselves, this has a huge competition element to it.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 8:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't like it. It seemed tacky,explotation, and sad. I won't watch again.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 8:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks, Scorpiomoon! I thought Taking It Off was a good, if low-budget, show.

Autumn
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10-29-2003

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 8:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yankee_in_ca: I found it different from Taking It Off (which, unfortunately I missed the end of and so don't know the final tallies of the people involved - hope they replay it soon.)

I agree with Scorpio that this one has more of a competitive edge/tone to it and have tackier aspects like the silver platters etc, whereas Taking It Off seems a truer case of a group of individuals trying to lose weight. (that didn't come out right, I don't mean that these people don't want to lose weight...you would have to see the two shows to know what I'm on about - as I dig myself deeper. lol) I also like on TIO how they choose what program they're going to follow and so on.

Aus10
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09-28-2000

Tuesday, October 19, 2004 - 9:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Isn't it a known fact that women tend to lose weight slower than men to begin with? I just hope that they don't Pagong the women right from the beginning, because I'll bet they'll lose the weight slower anyway. I will give credit where credit is due....it would take alot of determination and guts to go on this show...something that while I'd like to think that I could do...being honest with myself I don't think I'd have the courage to do.

Cablejockey
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12-27-2001

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This show has an interesting premise. Everybody is thinking of losing weight at some point. I like how you get to know the competitors and see how they made out after they left the show--Dana lost another 15 pounds and looks better.
I don't like the very public and enlarged weigh-in. Those screens were huge and screaming out how much everyone really weighs. Plus, the fact that they had to stand there in swimwear with every bulge and roll hanging there, seemed a bit cruel.
What are they thinking with that big forbidden breakfast? Some fun to watch them being tempted? And then what did they do with the food after this scene--throw it in the garbage?
Those fridges with their names on them, what is the purpose of them? Are they supposed to be like the Survivor torches, and when you are voted out your fridge light goes out instead of the torch???? I laughed at that part.
It kind of reminds me of Dr, Phil's weight loss group last year. You can see people are going to be getting on each other's nerves, and the red trainer is going to push someone over the edge mentally.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 8:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched, and I wonder why it has to be an elimnation? IF its about "healthy" and losing weight (whatever spin is being spun) Then let them compete, win luxuries, maybe a fantastic fruit or yummy special meal prepared and served (yet low calorie ok?!)

Then, in the end, couldnt the biggest loser win on percentage loss?

I think the part I dont like is this alliances will be formed, and it wont be about bonding and working together, as studies show, diet buddies go a long way in long term weight loss...

ok, I'm frustrated. AND shouldnt we be apalled that they exercised to the point of throwing up?? Are we back to the Jane Fonda exercise philosphy "no pain no gain" ? If this doesnt lead to unhealthy lifestyles I'd be surprised - exersizing 5 hrs + a day, a caloric intake of 600 calories, that is strongly encouraged by the red trainer - that's why the one lady was confused, her mind was gone!! I think she was saying her total intake to that point was 500 something calories!

I still respect Oprah and her weight loss journey. Its not about the food, until you get that, it is still all about yo yo.. and Oprah has had her share, so it doesnt bother me to be at a weight loss boot camp, its the other stuff they throw in and disquise it as "its about changing my life, getting healthy" If that's not a producer telling them to add that so many times...

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 8:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I enjoyed this show. Are those fridges locked? I did think Maurice would lose the most, since he was the biggest and had to lose the most percentage of his weight. I was surprised that he only lost one more pound than Gary. Those trainers are amazing. It looks like all the women will be voted off first. They should form an alliance. Not really fair, men will lose more and faster because of their muscle. Aaron really lost a lot of weight. He did look like he was more muscular than the others so that is probably why. Muscle burns calories even at rest.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 8:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Even though I liked the show I felt I was a bit misled. The winner will not necessarily be the one who loses the most weight since there aren't any real rules on who gets voted out.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 9:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The voting out part is like Survivor.. keep people you think will help your team and I suppose eventually, someone who is actually losing the most will be kicked by players because they know that person would beat them.. which makes it out last out wit, etc but NOT out lose.. I hope that each of them will take what they learned and apply it at home.. or I really hope that they follow through with those who have been bumped.

I do like that they used Carolyn Rhea, who isn't all sleek and svelte.. at least she's a successful person in a normal body.

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reader...

When I was younger I went to a bariatric specialist. I was on an 800 calorie a day diet and was working out.. well... let's see...

I would get up at 5:30, go run the track for an hour, go to the studio (dance) for an hour, shower, go to school... get out at 3:30... and was dancing at th studio from 4 to 7... so what's that???

Yep... 5 hours a day (more on weekends)...

I didn't suffer any permanent damage!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
And Jane Fonda? Remember that after all the people bought all those tapes they found out that JANE threw in another factor for her own body.. cosmetic surgery :-)

Actually, Reader, I agree with most of your points.

As for Dr Phil, very different: people were eliminated based on not trying (I think.. I'm fuzzy about the early eliminations) and of course he kept a large group and then rewarded them all, but had a ranking and a grand winner.. and each reward was geared to that specific person.

And Phil didn't say no to the cosmetic approach AFTER big loss; in fact, he promoted one of the women in his challenge and she went on extreme makeover to get rid of the excess skin and I forget what else she got.. but she earned it.

Mssilhouette
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07-11-2001

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
On the level of other reality shows out there this was okay. I can watch it. It was a bit explotive side. But that was the first show and then it was over very quickly. I also thought that whole weigh in was over the top. But at least that painful part is over.

I can cheer for everyone. But I KNOW that guy who said he owned a GYM is going to grate on my nerves. Mostly because of his attitude. Mr. I owned a gym, I know what to do. Is thinking to himself, yeah I'm not like the other people.
Which seems like that comes through in the next episode.

That temation breakfast was a bit much, but I know where they're going. They're saying if its a life change then you have to be able to make the decision not to eat that food. Although having it out there on the next day after a hard workout was pretty cruel. I like the fact that the curly haired mom sat down and had her fiber and fruit and didn't touch any of the forbidden breakfast. I was cheering on that part.

Also I see in the next episdoe that she works out beyond what's required.

Like I said at least this is a show you can kinda cheer for everyone. And when you watch the scale at the end you still are pleasently surprised.

By the way the Blue team seems to on the 6 week body makeover type eating plan. 4-6 small meals with foods that you can eat a lot of. Low carb not no carbs high veggies.

The red team, I'm sorry but that training is getting on my nerves already. I didn't like how she didn't bother to talk to the people and just threw them into the workout. I know she could sit there and yell at me all day long but she would NEVER get me to work until I needed to throw up. When my body tells me stop that's what I do. This is beyond the general burning sensation from lactid acid in the muscles.

In the end I'll still watch the show just to see how everyone is doing.


Way2prissy
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07-21-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 11:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked the show and found it to be inspirational. But that female personal trainer would have gotten an earful from me. She is over the top and pushed too hard. I don't think people who have more than 50 pounds to lose should be running. It's VERY bad for your knees, back and ankles. I also think that if you're doing 2 hours or more of cardio a day that losing 20 pounds should be expected. I know I'd be pretty pissed if I hadn't lost that much the first week! But I do agree that weight loss will slow down after this week.

I'll definitely continue to watch this show...looks like I might be able to get some weight loss tips!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 12:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Many of those didn't look all that fat.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Dr. Phil didn't kick anybody off the show even though many of them made the choice to not follow the weight loss program. The people who ultimately lost "big" won great prizes though and are very inspirational.

Chelseakitty
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06-28-2004

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked this show but it is not healthy to lose 22 pounds in one week! These poor people are going to burn out real fast. It's kind of scary how these shows are willing to take such chances with peoples health.

Lilfair
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07-09-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 1:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I noticed a disclaimer at the end of the show saying that the contestants were under physicians care throughout. I even noticed on of the females had 2 cotton squares taped to her arm as if she had blood drawn.

I bet these people are under good care. A lot of these folks are not just over weight but obese. Major weight loss like 20 lbs might not be so uncommon with obese people.

I did the Atkins diet, the 2 week induction phase and lost 10 lbs the first week but only a few lbs the second week. My goal was to lose 20 lbs. It ended up taking me 2 months to lose the 20.


Schoolmarm
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02-18-2001

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Anyone else get the urge to exercise during the show? LOL!

I was dismayed that I weigh more than a couple of the contestants, but they look like they wear a bigger size than I do.

I AM going to exercise through the show next week. Anyone want to join me?

I'm guessing that lots of the weight lost this week was water weight, and their losses will be smaller in the future because they are building muscle, and muscle weighs more than fat.

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I tuned in at the weigh-in. It seemed like a sweet show until they had to vote a la Survivor. Why not just drop the one who lost the least or draw lots. The show would have been 1/2 shorter.

Bmagikal
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I liked the show, however I wish they did the vote-off anonymously like they do on Survivor. I think by knowing who voted for whom to be voted off could reveal strategies and/or alliances. I don't think they should have to publically defend their vote.

Bmagikal
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 5:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Also, does anyone know if the teams remain the same throughout the contest.


Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This show was a topic of discussion at my gym tonight. Nearly everyone who watched it agreed that, while getting into shape can be a great thing to do ... the methods employed by this show are unhealthy and even bordering on dangerous on a physical and even emotional level.

No one was impressed with the competitive aspect of it.

(I didn't watch it, which is why I'm attributing these comments to others and not myself).

Alisons
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01-10-2003

Wednesday, October 20, 2004 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Any diet of less than 1200 calories per day should be under a doctor's supervision, but I am sure that they have doctors for the contestants. I believe the minimum amount of calories for people wandering around (I mean not on feeding tubes due to an accident, etc.) is 600 calories per day with biweekly blood tests and monthly electrocardiograms. I think that is the minimum number because you have to get at least 60 grams of protein per day or your body will start taking muscle tissue and that can end up damaging your heart. Not that I have been through the diet mills (much)! (cough)