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Jasper
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09-14-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 9:07 am
what the! when was this on? it wasn't listed in the TV guide or on at it's regular time! who fought and who won?
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:34 am
It was on at it's usual time on Sunday night. I think it repeats on Wednesday night on CNBC, I hope so because my hubby missed it and he will want to see it. Those guys fought their hearts out. It was tough to see either of them lose. My face hurt seeing Alfonso after the fight. I can't even begin to imagine the pain. He took some hard hits, but stayed in there toe to toe with Peter until the bitter end. There is no quit in this guy. I love Peter's little girl...such personality and charisma...and such love for her Daddy. I expect Sergio to beat the snot out of Jesse, but he will go down smiling! Does he never not smile? If the final bout is between Sergio and Peter as I expect it might be at this point, NBC could regret not renewing this show. It really needed a chance to showcase these guys, and let people see beyond the stereotypes. I enjoyed these guys a lot, certainly a lot more than the model wannabees on other reality shows. These guys were real and genuine and showed heart and courage as well as personality and humor. I am truly going to miss them. I will be their fan for a long time and will watch for them. I feel bad for the folks who missed out on this show...they missed a lot.
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 11:22 am
It repeats tonight on CNBC at 8 & 11 (I think). I'm pretty sure about the 8:00 time, but not so much about the 11.
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 11:24 am
If you have cable with CNBC, The Contender is on twice tonight and twice on Wednesday. In the mountain time zone (on daylight savings time), it's on at 6 pm and 9 pm both nights. You might want to check locally to see what time that is where you are.
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Feelangee
Member
01-04-2005
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 4:36 pm
What a slugfest, these guys fought like lions. Both these men were a class act. Humble in victory and magnanimous in defeat. Marysafan, that's the first I've heard that NBC didn't pick this up again. What a bummer! Looks like I'm the only one rooting for Jesse. I'd be happy with any of them winning but I'd prefer a Jesse win. Santa? Are you listening?
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 7:35 pm
Jesse bothers me, but I got the feeling from the previews that he might win the next fight. In the previews you could hear the crowd rallying behind him chanting "Jesse! Jesse! Jesse!" Then again, that eye might be a problem. He also seems to have trouble with discipline, like not watching his weight or when he had to opt out of fighting that one time because he'd been partying too hard the night before. It suggests he's not as hungry for this as some of the others. I was disappointed that Gomez and Manfredo chose to have their rematch in the semifinals instead of fighting the other two guys. I was hoping they'd both make it to the final 2 and then have their rematch. I really thought Gomez would win this whole thing. At least they were both classy about it and seemed to genuinely like and respect each other.
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Jasper
Member
09-14-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:08 pm
It definitely wasn't on Global (Canadian) at 7pm like it usually is, and unfortunately I have no idea what CNBC is. This is the second time they have moved it on us without warning. Phooey is all I can say.
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Marysafan
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 8:27 pm
Oh Man, Jasper...that stinks. It was a great bout. Seven rounds. They were going at each other so hard from the start that they felt they had to remind them it was seven rounds not five. Before the bout, they all gathered with their familys at the beach (Looked to be a private beach) for a cookout. All four said that they have bonded with each other and will be friends for a long time. It was cute watching them introduce their families to each other and taking pictures with Sly and Sugar Ray.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 10:04 pm
Jasper, if all else fails, go to the yahoo contender site and you can watch the entire fight. http://contender.tv.yahoo.com/01/index.html
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Monday, May 16, 2005 - 11:49 pm
Hey Jasper I missed it too. DARN it must not have been advertised because I sure never saw it in the TVguide. if you have basic cable you probably have CNBC as well. I always thought it was just a news channel and then Infomercials at night but NO!! It does play REAL shows as well. I caught the Contender at 7pm or 8 on Channel 30 a few days later the last time i missed the REAL show on Sunday.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 12:11 am
For anyone else who missed the show. This is the station that replays the show. http://moneycentral.msn.com/Content/CNBCTV/TV_Info/Schedule.asp
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 12:13 am
DARN!!! It was on tonight!! Missed it again and for some reason the Contender site fight replay isnt working for me. bad luck all around.
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Feelangee
Member
01-04-2005
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:13 am
Curly, I agree that the eye might be a problem. Sergio should be aiming for it with every shot. I didn't think I missed an episode all season but I must have somewhere along the line. I can't remember Jesse opting out of fighting due to excessive partying. Where was I? To Jesse's credit, although he was over at the weigh in, he buckled down and lost what he needed to by fight night. I thought the same thing Curly when I saw the previews and then I reminded myself that this is a Mark Burnett show and that maybe he was trying to trick me! LOL!
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 8:32 am
I don't remember Jesse opting out of a fight either. What episode was it? Although I like Jesse, I'm really hoping for a Sergio win. I've wanted to see a Sergio/Peter final for a long time. Hopefully, with everything going on over at the fishbowl, they will still have Alphonso call into the Reality Now radio show today. I'll check when I get home. They've had some great interviews with the guys this season. BTW: There is a good recap of the show here
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 4:26 pm
Don't forget they said it will be on Sunday and then the live finale will be Tuesday. I noticed Jesse is always under the covers too! I wonder if it's a "thing." It's cute though. Great fight, I didn't know who to root for. I like all these guys. Add me to the list of people who don't remember Jesse partying and skipping a fight.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 5:59 pm
It was episode 9 when Jesse won the right to pick the next match-up. He had the choice of fighting or choosing two others to fight each other. He'd had a heated argument with Ishe and talked big about how he was ready to fight him, but when the time came he chose Sergio to fight him instead. Sergio and Ishe both felt Jesse was chickening out, but Jesse claimed it was because he'd been out partying the day before (which doesn't explain why he didn't save Ishe for another day when he would be in better shape). I don't know if it was part of the show or the online clips, but I could swear I remember one of the reporters at the press conference asking Jesse why he'd be partying like that when he's supposed to be in training as this is such a big opportunity. I think that may be when he started rubbing me the wrong way. In the beginning I liked Jesse, but there's just something funny about him I can't put my finger on. Like when he made a big deal about Joey showing weak character by wanting to fight the injured Bonsante, when he clearly wanted to do the very same thing.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 6:09 pm
I also noticed Jesse always under the covers - but then again, I always notice Jesse I was thinking the match-ups would have been Peter & Jesse, and Alfonso & Sergio. I felt those would of have been closer match-ups - but then again, I don't know much about boxing. But no matter who fought who - it would be a fair match-up at this point. I do remember something with Jesse during one of the match-ups (where they had a choice of choosing a fight or picking a match-up after winning a challenge) he chose a match-up, rather than choosing to fight and picking his own opponent. I seem to remember him saying something about not being up to it due to being up late or partying or something the night before. I think that was also when he got that slight hamstring strain during the challenge. Then again, I could be combining several episodes 
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 6:52 pm
I don't know anything about the world of boxing, so I have a question: - how many rounds are there usually in an "officially sanctioned" middleweight fight? After watching this episode, I started thinking that I don't think it was fair that all these fights count towards their record. I think just the final fight should. (and maybe these "final-four" fights) 1) the first couple of fights they only had to go 5 rounds, and now they go 7. It doesn't seem fair to count towards their stats. If middleweight fights are normally 7 rounds, then why should fighters who only have a 5 round bout get to reflect wins? Or if the fights are normally 5 rounds, then why are they now going 7 on the show? Either way, it doesn't seem fair. 2) They hold fights so close together, that the contenders may not have time to properly heal. Like Jesse has to fight 3 days after the cut over his eye. Let's say Alfonso won his fight - he'd have to fight with a busted jaw? I know they have the option to not fight (like that one guy who dropped out) but then they lose their "shot". Shouldn't they give them more time to recoup in these final rounds? In the "real" world, how often do they fight? And could a fight be postponed if they suffered an injury? Any word on how the undercard fights will be worked? Do they get a purse(?) for that? Is it going to be 6 out of the 11 contenders - or just the 2 that got the most votes?
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:03 pm
According to the California Athletic Commission rules (which is the body sanctioning these fights), the maximum number of 3-minute rounds is 12. THere is one exception for requesting a 15-round fight. I couldn't find anything about minimum number of rounds. I know that the number of rounds varies a lot, but as you move up the ranks, the bouts generally have more rounds. As to how frequently they fight, the Commission's code states, "Section 18721. The commission may by rule specify the frequency with which boxers may participate in a contest." So I guess it's really a judgment call by the Commission. Rules governing boxing vary a lot from state to state. That's why there's a push to get some federal governance over the sport because really what seems to end up happening is that the money does the talking. And yes, fights get postponed due to injury or sickness. In the "real world" they would most likely not be fighting this frequently, at least not in sanctioned fights. It takes a lot of money and promotion effort to make a boxing match worthwhile for all involved and that takes time. Anyway, that's what I found in searching for info and from what I know from following the sport.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - 11:41 pm
thank you Max! So there seems to be a lot of variables - just in the state of California! I didn't realize all those things could vary so much. So I wonder how many rounds the final fight will be...
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 2:45 pm
Luvmykitties, you make an interesting argument. Knowing nothing at all about boxing I hadn't really thought about the ramifications of adding these fights to their records if the circumstances are unusual. Then again, I'm thinking about the boxers who go to the Olympics. Surely they would sometimes have to fight without a big break to recover, but then they probably get to wear the protective headgear. How much do these records really count? It's not like in college football where your record decides who gets the title, is it? Or does it decide who gets to try for the title?
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Max
Member
08-12-2000
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 3:30 pm
Records in boxing are a funny thing. Because the sport is regulated so loosely and different states have different requirements, a good record can be made on purpose or it can be truly earned. Once you have a good record (no matter how you got it), the meaning of that record is really all in how your manager and publicist use it to get you more fights and move you up the ladder towards a championship title. Many fighters have established good records early on by intentionally setting up matches with less skilled fighters. That way, when they go to seek sponsorships and additional fights, they can use their "good" track record to their advantage. Truly, in boxing, the rules are very fluid in many respects. That's one of the problems a lot of people have with the sport.
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Ladytex
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09-27-2001
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 4:34 pm
Joey Gilbert will not be fighting on the undercard: http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2005/05/17/99738.php
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:27 pm
FYI - I detected a spoiler in that article Sorry to see that Joey isn't fighting, but it makes sense. It sounds like there really isn't much to gain in the under card fight - expect exposure. And he's already received exposure and has a fight lined up. So it's 8 contenders in the under card fights. Did I understand correctly that those fights will only be shown through the yahoo website?
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 7:37 pm
thank you for your responses to my questions re: boxing. wow - I didn't realize that boxing rules & regulations are so diverse. So maybe this show will help - even though it received poor ratings. I'm not a fan of boxing, but I did enjoy this series and would have watched another season.
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