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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 9:03 am
At first, I, too, thought Omarosa was very "professional," but then in her dealings with her co-workers, she was so obviously passive-aggressive. She would say attacking things, and then not let the other person respond. She would turn her back and walk away. She wouldn't "hear" anyone else's side. Even when Amy sat down with her and tried to explain to her how her actions were making her look, how she needed to try a little harder to cooperate with everyone else and just get along, Omarosa played a little "mind game" on her and told her everyone else was talking about Amy behind her back! Then she laughed about it in an interview! So much has come out about her inability to get along with people (ie. four positions in two years at the White House due to her inability to get along with her co-workers--one woman reportedly wanted to smack her!). I think she is just one of those folks who goes through life intentionally or unintentionally aggravating other people and then blaming it on everyone else. Everyone else is wrong, not me. (Haven't we all worked with someone like this at some time?) Very sad, since she is obviously a beautiful, intelligent woman. She's sabotaging herself. Also I absolutely do not believe they ever caught the n-word on tape. There's no way in heck they could keep that a secret, confidentiality agreements or not. There are too many people involved in the making of a TV show to keep a lid on that. Look at all the "behind the scenes" leaks on the other reality shows. Somebody would have to talk, even if it were anonymously on a web site somewhere. I just don't think Mark Burnett and DT would be stupid enough to try to hide something like that. If it were true, what would be the point? The fact that DT offered Oma a chance to explain herself in the finale and she basically went off on a nonsensical babble further destroyed any shred of credibility she might have had. And then when she stormed off the Jimmy Kimmel set when she saw the lie detector machine--even though they assured her that it wasn't set up for her--what is she afraid of? Howard Stern supposedly gave Ereka a lie detector test and she passed. Omarosa seems to be downplaying the whole incident these days by refusing to talk about it anymore and professing to have "moved on." I just think the whole situation is ugly. If it happened, it's inexcusable, and MB and DT should own up to it and decry Ereka's despicable behavior. If it didn't happen, Omarosa should admit she was mistaken and apologize. I really don't think that'll ever happen, though, cause I truly believe that Omarosa is convinced she heard the n-word--whether or not it ever happened. We'll probably never know. Oops! Sorry this got so long. I got carried away.
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Idolworship
Member
05-07-2003
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 9:58 am
But, Chief, signing that lengthy contract did not keep her from insinuating whatever she wished. The others, who actually honored their contracts, and could do nothing but deny the charges, had to suffer the sneaky intimidation. Fortunately, the cameras were there, to catch their eye-rolling, and smirking. Needless to say, we will change nothing, here, and will be left with our own opinions. Hopefully, we'll get the truth, someday...but unvarnished truth is pretty hard to find, these days.
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Cinnamongirl
Member
01-10-2001
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 10:30 am
excellent post babyjaxmom, I agree 100%
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Beachcomber
Member
08-26-2003
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 1:04 pm
I just want to say what a pleasure it is to read a respectful and thoughtful discussion on a subject where we have differing opinions. It is so refreshing!! My heartfelt thanks to all who have posted!
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 1:10 pm
I also truly believed the finale had set-ups (more than just Omarosa). Thus far - DT has denied ANY setups. If DT is lying and the truth comes out, that would seriously discredit DT - because he denied it (didn't just "fail to mention it"). I don't know if he'd take that kind of risk discrediting himself. Then again - who knows. I know I wouldn't watch it anymore. And Omarosa was brought back for the final episodes before the show even began airing. So I don't believe that they asked her to do behave the way she did to discredit herself. Again - DT said "that is who she is." And her accusations of being called the "n-word" were several interviews after she was fired. Why didn't she make a big deal about it while ON the show? Why didn't she make this announcement in her first interviews following her firing? Also - I watched carefully (since it's been shown several times now) that when they were on the plane, and Ereka said "that's calling the kettle black" and Omarosa said "no need to get racial, er, racist" - there was no edit/cuts. So it is obvious that O said it right after Ereka's "kettle" comment. (hope this made sense) Now that's not to say it couldn't have been said another time - but Omarosa has said on her interviews that when she made the comment about "no need to get racist" - it was in response to being called the "n-word" - she knows that that the "kettle" comment is an expression and wouldn't be upset about that. And wouldn't she have been a little more upset about it on the show if she was called the "n-word"? That would have made GREAT drama! They've done it on Real World a few times. And the contract didn't prevent her from accusing someone of calling her the "n-word", accuse people of having sex, accuse someone of flirting with the producers - and then other insinuations here and there. I also tried to like her - and tried to justify some of her behavior. But after the hit on the head and she was outside playing ball, I started wanting her to get fired due to her work ethics. By the finale and especially since all of her interviews - I dislike her and can't find any favorable qualities beyond she's attractive. But I also feel that the media exaggerates and imbellishes.
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Madelane
Member
08-20-2001
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 2:16 pm
Actually after Erica said the "pot calling the kettle black" comment, what Omarosa said was, "Now there you go with another one of your racist terms." It was obvious to me that at the time, she didn't know what that phrase meant. I believe she found out afterward and is covering her tracks.
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Chief1
Member
08-18-2003
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 2:21 pm
WOW! Just came back to check, and am thoroughly impressed with your comments. I can see both sides of the coin. Kep421, I thought about what you said, too, earlier when trying to form an opinion of Omarosa. It really does seem difficult to understand how she would allow the media to manipulate her. Then again, I wondered if this was her first "real gig" with media dealings. She may have thought she was saavy, but was actually taught a few lessons on how the media can really be, and got caught in the crossfire. Demeter, I agree with you, that her media appearances since the show have been about the same as how we saw her on the show. (Personality can't be scripted. LOL!) I also believe that DT and MB have depended on that all along, and she fed right into it. Her personality is/was "key" for the villain, which most reality shows need. Babyjaxmom, you're so right! Omarosa really does seem to be a passive-agressive type of person. I remember that episode you mentioned, and the interaction between her and Amy. That was one of those times when she really had a chance to open up to someone, and try to be "likeable" and get along. The only thing I could come up with at the time, was that she felt singled out, but knew that she wasn't the only one who was being "talked about." But instead of just working with Amy, she made it worse. (BTW, my post was long-winded, too, so no apologies required!) So true, Idolworship, about the contract not keeping her from insinuating things. I thought about that, too, and it may have something to do with why she's insinuating ... She knows she can't actually "speak it" yet. So many stories have been flung around amongst the contestants, and in the first season of the show, too! Beachcomber, thank you, too! It really is refreshing! If DT was aware of any setups, I don't think he would have agreed to continue with the show, Lovemykitties. I think his reputation preceeds him, and he wouldn't want to be a part of something that turns out deceptive. On that note, I DO believe that there are things that go on behind the scenes, which shape a show, that DT knows very little about. He just may not be aware of all of the goings on, and I'm sure he questioned things and got the thumbs up that everything was fine, and ultimately put his trust in MB. But MB knows exactly what to do! But as far as Omarosa bringing the n-word accusation up after being fired, my guess is that she's been there and done that before, and knows that it's not easy convincing people of such a thing, when you're in the minority of believers. She may have just waited it out, until the time came when she thought the waters were clear... maybe so that if she won, it would've been on her own merits, and not because she blamed someone of racism. For her, though, that time didn't really come! The waters have been, and probably always will be murky.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 4:40 pm
thank you Madelane for the correction on what she said. I knew what I wrote didn't sound right. 
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 7:31 pm
Here's a little bit from this week's People magazine (5/3/04), which I thought you all might enjoy. You make the call: Truth or Omarosa? "You gotta straighten out the truth," Trump told Omarosa in the finale. A look at some of her more memorable, um, embellishments: She Says: She flew to L.A. to tape an Herbal Essences commercial. They Say: It was a screen test for a commercial and it may never air. She Says: Producers hyped her return in the promos "because the ratings had dropped so bad" after she was fired. They Say: The week after her sacking, the show attracted a healthy 17.5 million viewers; ratings have only climbed since. She Says: Bush reelection campaign chairman Marc Raucicot wanted to work with her. "He got my [resume] from my web site. He's enamored of me." They Say: She sent her resume. She was not considered for an interview. She Says: Her castmates support her claim that producers made her the villain. "They were saying, 'Why is Omarosa getting blamed?'" They Say: "Oh my God, what a diva!" says Ereka. At the finale, "she was insistent on wearing this huge hat that would have hidden poor Sam. We all got in this huge argument, and Amy said, 'This is not the Omarosa show. It's not about you.' It was a nightmare."
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 7:56 pm
LOL at the title !!!
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 8:03 pm
Not to change the subject or anything , but Kwame will be one of People's 50 Most Beautiful People for this week's issue.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 8:51 pm
That is great! Thanks Prisoner!
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Wednesday, April 28, 2004 - 9:37 pm
Oooooh, Kwame! Will he be answering the phone in his boxer shorts again?
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 6:44 am
thanks babyjaxmom! I hadn't even heard some of those claims - and I thought I've heard them all! Did someone post it here, or was it in an article - that Omarosa was used as a description or verb- as in "ooo - he pulled an Omarosa!" I wonder if she'll make it into the Urban Dictionary. I think Trisha should submit her "Omalicious"! Yes - I just heard about People's 50 Most Beautiful People also. that is so cool to have Kwame! It's funny how sometimes the runner up has more success than the winner in these type shows. (like American Idol)
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 6:59 am
sheesh ....
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 7:05 am
SHE'S HIRED! By RICHARD JOHNSON April 29, 2004 -- Billionaire builder Donald Trump has proposed to his beautiful live-in sweetheart of five years, model Melania Knauss. The 33-year-old Slovenian beauty — who will be wife No. 3, following Ivana and Marla — is sporting a gigantic diamond engagement ring. http://www.nypost.com/
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 7:23 am
quote:It's funny how sometimes the runner up has more success than the winner in these type shows. (like American Idol)
All depends on how you define success. Clay has more album sales, Ruben gets more big market airplay. Clay won an American Music Award, Ruben won an NAACP Image award -- and was nominated for a Grammy. They have pretty much equal success, just different -- just as they are pretty much equally talented, just different. It's too early to tell really, but I think I would put Bill and Kwame in the same boat -- different but equally successful. (Justin Guarini, on the other hand, had no where near the success of Kelly Clarkson...) I think Omarosa is the William Hung of Apprentice -- lots of attention in the beginning due to the "Oh Good Golly" factor, but in the end probably just a flash in the pan.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 8:20 am
good point Prisoner! I guess I was thinking of money and popularity (in a positive sense. not talking about "villans"). I wasn't aware of Clay & Rueben's awards. I was thinking of who I see more of. Is it just my imagination that Clay seems to get more publicity? (I don't follow AI or the people from the show. This is just based on regular TV watching) I wonder what will happen to Bill if Trump's Chicago building doesn't get off the ground (no pun intended ) I wonder if he is in exclusive contract with Trump and not allowed to do anything else during the year. Can he do endorsements (not Trump related) as long as it's not a conflict of interest? Just wondering...
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Thursday, April 29, 2004 - 9:41 am
quote:Is it just my imagination that Clay seems to get more publicity?
It's just your imagination. {putting my Ed Pysch hat on} Seriously, it's a matter of perception. We tend to pay attention more to that in which we are most interested or that which validates our assumptions. If you assume Clay is "more successful" you will tend to remember or even seek out evidence that supports it. You will remember seeing him on television or reading about him in the newspaper because it validates your assumption about his success. You won't notice instances of Ruben being on TV or seek them out, because you assume he is less popular, and therefore wouldn't be on TV or in print. Would you be surprised to hear he has been on MTV's TRL, Letterman, and Regis and Kelly, to name a few shows, in the last couple of weeks? that his concert tour has gotten rave reviews in all the local papers? That he's already slated to sing on the GMA summer concert series? It's similar phenomenon with Kwame. We may actually notice more publicity about Kwame because we don't know what he's doing. With Bill, we know what he will be doing -- managing the construction of that building. So we actively seek out information about Kwame, but not necessarily about Bill. Therefore we notice the information about Kwame and not about Bill, so we think Kwame is getting more press or being more successful. And if we can't find evidence of our assumptions, then we become mind readers and assume we know the motivations behind people's actions. 
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 1:11 am
did anyone hear something about Omarosa and Playboy - recently? I was watching Jay Leno Friday night, and was on my computer so only half listening. During his monologue, I heard "Omarosa" and "Playboy" - but I didn't catch what he said. It wasn't a repeat, so it would have to be recent news. I don't recall EVER hearing anything about Omarosa and Playboy. I know some of the other girls received an offer way back, but I don't recall Omarosa ever being mentioned with Playboy. And even so - that is pretty old news. I checked the websites that have had a lot of Apprentice stuff and didn't find anything about Omarosa since she walked off the Jimmy Kimmel show. Did anyone tape Jay Leno and could repeat the joke?
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Sanfranjoshfan
Member
09-17-2000
| Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 9:58 am
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/ AIRS: 9-10 p.m. ET Monday-Friday 'Apprentice' cast reunion Saturday, May 1 Larry holds an "Apprentice" cast reunion with winner Bill Rancic and Donald Trump. Larry is also joined by runner-up Kwame Jackson and contestants Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, Amy Henry and others. Tune in at 9 p.m. ET.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 1:06 pm
Are you sure that's not a rerun of the one they did a couple of weeks ago, SFJosh? A lot of times the ones they show on the weekends are reruns of previous shows. Guess it would be good to watch if you missed the original! 
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Ladybug007
Member
08-13-2000
| Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 1:31 pm
It is a rerun.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Saturday, May 01, 2004 - 9:21 pm
YAY it's the rerun I missed. Came to give a headsup....see, as usual, I've been beat here lol
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Sunday, May 02, 2004 - 7:15 am
I caught the rerun, and they did mention Playboy after Larry showed that infamous picture, and Heidi said they were all offered Playboy, but turned it down, something about nudity and image, so O pops off something about the photo, and Donald on the phone says it was a good photo etc and they should NOT do Playboy... (this is big time paraphrasing - I enjoyed the bantering... esp Amy nailing Om again on a "lie" and her take on it... she (O) just smiled and was so nice, interesting.. oh her reason for not doing Playboy, or the underwear layout... I'm going to run for political office someday, I wouldnt want THAT pic to get out...
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