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Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lurkin, I agree with you that MJ was drinking and that he had no way of making a judgment because Karamo seemed to immediately get upset. I see it both ways, I happened to be a white female as well, I've never had anything happen to me so I try not to make to many judgments either way as I don't know how it feels to be picked out at random over and over again the way Karamo says. I agree that Karamo should've calmed down, he wasn't making his situation any better, but anger is an emotion that just takes control sometimes, it's very sad.

I think one way or another we are all discriminated against, whether it be race, sex, religion, etc. and it always hurts.

Tishala
Member

08-01-2000

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Karamo was actually quite calm about this when he dealt with the Philadelphia police [the documentary Black and Blue lays bare the long, horrible relationship between Philly cops and black men]. He actually grew more animated when MJ told him how he should respond--it actually made the situation worse.

MJ assumed he knew what the deal was, and he clearly didn't. He didn't know about being followed in stores because he was a young black man, or about being singled out by police for exactly the same reason--and nothing else. I don't know about it, either, but I have been with friends when it happened to them. It's stupid, infuriating, and repetitive.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought that the police overdid it - some random ANONYMOUS tip and they need FOUR policemen to surround someone who was causing NO trouble?? Remind me to call in anonymous tips against people I do not like so that I can get the dragnet called in! And excuse me, but wasn't it pretty obvious right off the bat that this was a Real World cast member and if he had obtained a gun someone would have it on tape?? Puhleese. I just wish I knew who to complain to so that those cops could have their badges pulled! Philadelphia should be ASHAMED.

(c)

Mocha
Member

08-12-2001

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 5:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Great show last night. It's a shame what happened to Karamo but it wasn't the first time and it damn sure won't be the last. I felt bad for Vonda too and was glad to see another side to Sarah.

Monkeyboy
Member

05-27-2001

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I feel bad for saying this but I wouldn't put it past the producers to make that "anonymous tip" for dramatic purposes...but i agree, great show last night.

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 9:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was thinking the same thing Monkeyboy.

Max
Member

08-12-2000

Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 9:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me, three, Monkeyboy. That's just how cynical I am! :-)

Laura11103
Member

08-13-2002

Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 7:55 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's what I said in my first post, that it seemed like an MTV setup, I'm not convinced it wasn't, shame on MTV if that's the case!

Thiry18
Member

09-18-2004

Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
i have a huge problem with the way karamo handled the situation with MJ and Landon. does he think that he is the only black man in philly? and did anyone notice that black cops were confronting him???? MJ and Landon were trying to understand and all Karamo did was yell in their faces. he acted childish, and completely out of line. of course, MJ and Landon don't understand, but at least they were willing to talk like grown men about the situation.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good points Thiry...

Thiry18
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09-18-2004

Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
thanks julieboo

Watching2
Member

07-07-2001

Friday, October 01, 2004 - 12:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My one thought when the other guy was telling Karamo to calm down was so that he wouldn't get himself in further trouble with the police for his actions. Yes, he had a right to be angry, but as we saw in RW San Diego, giving the police a hard time could land you with some cell time. I was worried for him on that account, not that he didn't have a right to be angry and I wasn't sure if being told to "calm down" was condescending as he thought it was or an attempt from getting himself in real trouble. Afterward, the whole thing was just a mess. They were all being stubborn and yelling at one another. There's really no way to hear when all you do is yell in both directions.

Sweetbabygirl
Member

08-31-2002

Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Okay, saw this eppy last night....I was pissed at the fact that MJ felt that Karamo was over the top with his feelings about the situation, since he has obviously never been in such an incident. Why couldn't he just answer Karamo when he asked him if he had ever been harrassed by the cops?

Finally, I'm like this....if I am white-hot angry, the worse thing you can do is try to talk to me. I like to let it marinate for a bit before trying to express myself, and if someone tries to speak to me in the emotional moment, things come out that sometimes can't be taken back.

My point is, MJ should have let Karamo calm down before talking to him.

Alisons
Member

01-10-2003

Saturday, October 02, 2004 - 4:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can totally relate to Karamo in that I HATE when other people try to "manage" my emotions for me. When I am upset or angry about something, I expect my friends to immediately show sympathy, not to tell me that I am overreacting.

Also, I still think the Philly police were overly aggressive towards him and I can ONLY IMAGINE what it would have been like if they had not seen the cameras rolling.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't quite get why Vonda needed money. Does every other "houseguest" (or whatever they are called) have their parents supporting them? I know at her age I didn't have my parents giving me money....

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 7:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Good points Lurkin (about 20 posts back....sorry I'm a little late)

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 8:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I totally understand what you're saying, SBG...

Willsfan
Member

09-04-2000

Sunday, October 03, 2004 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Julieboo, Cameron from last season called home for money too. Her dad said he wasn't Wells Fargo. LOL

I think most young people do not have enough saved up for the period of time they spend in the RW house, especially if they go out to eat a lot or go clubbing. So, it's important if MTV sets them up with a job they do well enough to at least get paid. Some of them had bills, etc. to pay.

I could never understand why all the Real World house guests complained about working when the jobs they had were relatively easy.
In Paris they had to do a travelogue type thing and they didn't even want to visit the places in order to type up a review. Geez!

I'm trying to remember if MTV tried to make sure everyone had a job in previous seasons, in the first years they went out and got their own jobs. Correct me if I'm wrong cause I didn't watch every RW. I missed the one with Coral. (Seattle?) D a r n it!@! I wish they would replay it.

Laura11103
Member

08-13-2002

Monday, October 04, 2004 - 12:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yeah, the first few seasons they had their own jobs (if they wanted), then they started setting them up with jobs together. I think the first might have been when they had to start their own business, what a mess that turned out to be, they couldn't get anything going. So what are they gonna be doing this season?

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, October 04, 2004 - 12:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This season they will be working at some sports arena. I know it has something to do with John Bon Jovi (maybe he's an owner). I think they are gonna be the people that throw balled-up shirts in to the crowd in between quarters or innings or halves....

Thiry18
Member

09-18-2004

Monday, October 04, 2004 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
they're working for the philadelphia soul, philly's arena football team.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sorry, but Karamo is acting like a dick!

What exactly did he want MJ to do? He first got mad at him when the 4 (I like how he made it jump to six when he got back to the apt.) cops surrounded him and MJ wasn't there. MJ was sitting w/ a girl at the time. Did K think that MJ was supposed to babysit him?

And then K kept getting in MJ's face and repeatedly asking him how many times it happened to MJ. None, so what? Should MJ be punished for that?

And then to be so damn happy that Mj got a barstool thrown and him and want 4 more to be thrown at him? I don't get it.

I'm not even watching w/full attention, but is K driving them thru a bad part of town just to make them feel nervous? Why? What a dick!

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Betray him? how did MJ betray him?

Mamie316
Member

07-08-2003

Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I'm just jealous because they get to work for Jon Bon Jovi. He's the only reason I will watch the show tonight.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jon Bon Jovi is cute, but his haircut isn't even '80s, it's '70s! Doesn't seem like they will work much for that football team since the season ended.