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Episode 11/18/04 (Spoiler)

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Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 10:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
the "Face" of Levis or the "butt" LOL

Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
She has both ends covered rather nicely! :-)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just saw the ad with her pic in Entertainment weeekly..it lists her profession as MOdel AND apprenttice GUEST STAR!!!!!!!

What a load of crap! It should have been honest and said her real profession.....DT girlfriend, not even fiance, just girlfriend!!!!!!

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Professional Girlfriend.

Hmmm...isn't that illegal everywhere except Nevada?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 2:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jenn didn't come off to me as useless without contribution. Jen was excluded from the task by both Kevin and Ivana who thought she was dumb because she didn't catch on to the wheel idea right away. They (kevin and Ivana) treated her with contempt and clearly thought they were better than her and took every opportunity to voice their opinions to the camera.

Had anyone treated Ivana or Kevin with such contempt and exclusion, they would have been whining and crying through the entire task. Both Kevin and Ivana maintained an arrogant and "holier than thou" attitude when dealing with Jen and I thought Jen handled herself pretty good considering how she was treated simply because she didn't understand something they thought she should.

Kevin even stated that he gave her "busy" work to keep her out of the loop. I believe Jen was given the task of actually writing the presentation. Then Kevin and Ivana tried to exclude Jen from participating in the presentation. They both had an opportunity to speak, but started to roll their eyes and act childish when Jen began to participate.

Kevin's and Ivana's condensension and childish behavior was noticed by both Trump and the Levi guy. I believe Trump was asking the Levi guy who did a better job presentation wise, since the Levi guy wasn't around when the task was actually being done. Trumps remark to Jen about her education paying off (I believe) was refering to her maturity and good attitude inspite of being treated like crap by her team mates.

Trumps whole message that episode was about mainting control of oneself. I think Jen did the best job of that ....

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 5:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy, they are engaged. Melani showed her 12 carat ring on the View today. A few weeks ago, Donald was on some show or another and gave January 22 as their wedding date. (I remembered it cuz that will be my dh and my 6th wedding anniversary.)

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 5:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
As well, didn't one team win a shopping trip to some diamond place, and Trump said it was the same place that he got Milania's engagement ring?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Tuesday, November 23, 2004 - 6:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why did he call her his girlfriend? Oh maybe he proposed after they filmed that ep!

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Oh, its probably just "Donald speak." I'm sure he would like to create his own language so it can be "THE BEST."

Jedisan
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01-11-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
"I believe Trump was asking the Levi guy who did a better job presentation wise, since the Levi guy wasn't around when the task was actually being done."
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If the Levi guy was not present for the actual task, then how could he have known that Jen was th one who produced the presentation. I think if he was privy to that knowledge, shouldn't he also have known that the wheel idea (which was mostly why they won) was Ivana's idea?

I think Levy guy was giving Jen credit for being a beautiful model.
OR
Trump was setting up Jen for this week (will say that he knows she took credit when it wasn;t due her)}

Rslover
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11-19-2002

Wednesday, November 24, 2004 - 9:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's a long time to air if the show was filmed before April 29. That's when they got engaged.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 25, 2004 - 9:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
January 22 is my birthday ... I hope they change the date to marry! ...LOL!

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jedisan, the Levi guy was there for the actual presentation. I believe Trump was asking him who he thought did the better job in the actual presentation. The Levi guy answered Jen and commented on how she seem calm and collected and presented her views nicely. That's when Trump commented to Jen that her education appeared to have paid off, presumably referring to her speaking abilities.

I don't believe people should be promoted because of their looks, but I don't think people should be discounted for them either. I think Jen takes a lot of crap off the others because they are pre-judging her because she is blonde and good looking. I also think she is handling it quite well, she does what is asked of her and keeps her cool in spite of the condesending attitudes and snide remarks.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 3:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jen and Ivana are different sides of the coin as far as maintaining their composure. Ivana is a nasty piece of work - I think she has done well on the last two tasks but she has also been surrounded by very good people. I don't think she has a shot at being the Apprentice simply because of her lack of polish and professionalism.

Elizabeth's lack of education will stop her progress. Just because she has "spunk" isn't enough to move her forward (Troy had spunk and personality and yet when push came to shove he got fired because of his lack of education...later interviews with Trump were very complimentary of him but that was his reason for getting rid of Troy).

Kevin seems to lose his composure at times. His profuse sweating was off-putting. He also doesn't seem to think "out of the box" very well. He is very likeable but I'm not sure he is "leadership" material.

Jen - same as Kevin on the "out of the box" thing. She is (I think this is what they call it) a linear thinker...she can see what is straight ahead but seems to be a little lost when dealing with curves and creative issues. However, she shows a great deal of composure when dealing with stressful situations. She is concise when dealing with facts that she has a firm grasp of. (By the way, I noticed when Andy was confiding in her about what he was going to do in the boardroom she was very noncommittal - just nodded her head and said uhh huhh a few times and let him run on and on...she is the most careful when it comes to how and what she says.)

Kelly - my money would be on him to win. Although sometimes he has been abrasive he seems best able to handle whatever is thrown at him. He doesn't give up and he takes control (sometimes too much). He is willing to step up. I'll bet Jen C wouldn't have gotten away with her little act if Kelly had been on her team. I don't like him teamed up with Ivana though - her nastiness seems to rub off a bit on him.