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Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 11:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I kind of hope Trump gives her what for. She needs to know how bad her actions were in that context. I think it could be that Tana is a self-employed business person, and she made her money on her own, as opposed to being within a team context. I think that should be a HUGE factor in Trump's decision. Tana works`for herself in RL, and doesn't have the experience to work WITH people.

Kittystj
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08-10-2001

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 11:38 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Article from local Virginian Pilot.

Kendra originally from Virginia Beach

Paper: Virginian-Pilot, The (Norfolk, VA)
Title: Can Kendra win?
Author: LARRY BONKO
Date: May 11, 2005
Section: Daily Break
Page: E1

"YOU'RE HIRED!" Virginia Beach native Kendra Todd is so close to hearing those words from Donald Trump.But first, she must get by the last person who stands between her and a six-figure job in the glitzy Trump organization: Tana Goertz, 37, of Des Moines, Iowa.

The Todd-Goertz smackdown begins Thursday at 9 on NBC as "The Apprentice 3" builds to the live season finale next week .

Todd and Goertz came through 15 weeks that tested their ability to think fast, complete tasks under deadline with little sleep and work as a team with people they barely know while 12.4 million people watched.

Todd and Goertz pushed past 16 other apprentice wanna-bes.

"I am not surprised to get this far," Todd said in an interview before Episode 15, in which Trump fired Craig Williams of Conley, Ga.

"All 18 of us have the potential to be the final two. It's a very talented group," said Todd, a real estate broker who lives in Boynton Beach, Fla., where her company, My House Real Estate, specializes in land acquisitions. "Advancing depended on how well we played the cards that were dealt to us and how well we employed our strategies."

Todd's strategy was to lay low in the early episodes, look and listen, then make her move when the time was right.

"Rather than say I stayed in the background, I prefer to say that I stayed out of the drama of the early episodes. My plan in the early shows involved observing my competitors - becoming familiar with their strengths, weaknesses and overall talents. I don't feel it is wise to try to lead a group of people without knowing best how to use their skill sets. The first few project managers who lost and were fired basically volunteered themselves for the chopping block."

The NBC audience saw Todd break out of the pack April 14, when she stayed up all night to design a slick brochure for the Pontiac Solstice. The brochure wowed Pontiac execs. It captured the fun and emotion of driving the car, they said.

"I was ecstatic. It was my personal moment of victory. I can say that I did it all by myself because my team abandoned me," said Todd. She toiled. They slept.

From that moment, Todd established herself as the one to beat, an impression fortified in last week's episode that saw the last three candidates interviewed by the CEOs of four major corporations. Todd came away from the one-on-ones with praise ringing in her ears.

"My goal is to be a developer," she told the executives. "So, Mr. Trump can either hire me now or someday I'm going to be his competition."

The execs called her gifted, aggressive and intelligent - a future superstar.

Not surprising, say those who knew her at First Colonial High School.

"She's smart and articulate," said Doug Thompson, who taught her English.

"I was captain of the forensics and debate team," Todd said. "My category was original oratory. We traveled the country competing on a national level. Mary Sue Crommelin was our coach, and I really must thank her from the bottom of my heart for teaching me to have a voice."

After high school, Todd headed to the University of Florida, where she graduated with a degree in linguistics.

Todd, who is forbidden by NBC and the producers from discussing specifics of her duel with Goertz, said she has felt good vibes coming from Virginia Beach, where her parents live. It's a Navy family.

"My entire family has been extremely supportive. They gather around the television on Thursday night to watch the show and cheer me on. I hear that some of my teachers and high school friends from First Colonial have organized viewing parties as well. It's nice to know that my hometown has been so supportive."

Thursday night, Todd will need that support.

Her task - organizing the Best Buy Video Game Championships at Webster Hall in Manhattan. Goertz must coordinate the New York City 2012 Athlete Challenge at the Chelsea Piers - an activity to promote the city's bid for the 2012 Olympics.

Three former candidates will help: Erin Elmore, Michael Tarshi and Danny Kastner, who at first blush appear to be more of a hindrance than a help.

Todd and her gang start in the hole. The folks from Sony PlayStation aren't happy with the arrangements at Webster Hall.

"What? You put us in the basement ∑ ?"

Not to worry. Viewers who clicked online to The Apprentice Blog picked Todd over Goertz by a vote of 55.4 to 37.9 percent. Go, girl.



* Reach Larry Bonko at (757) 446-2486 or larry.bonko@ pilotonline.com.

{DOUBLE-EDIT} ON TV: "The Apprentice 3" at 9 p.m. Thursday on NBC; season finale is May 19.

{CAPTION} Task: Coordinate New York City 2012 Athlete Challenge at Chelsea PiersTask: Organize the Best Buy Video Game Champion ships at Webster Hall



Craig Blankenhorn/NBC universal

Virginia Beach's Kendra Todd was called gifted, aggressive and intelligent by CEOs of major corporations on "The Apprentice."

Author: LARRY BONKO
Section: Daily Break
Page: E1

Copyright (c) 2005 The Virginian-Pilot




Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only way Kendra can lose... is if her check in the amount of $1,150 to Todd Balch BOUNCES...


Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 2:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
seemed to me that she was running a neighborhood party, and that as long as everyone was having a good time, and stayed on schedule then the party is a success!!

Very good analogy! thats what I was thinking too.

You know, I cant figure out what a Mary Kay representative could bring to the table at Trump industries. Selling cosmetics is not the same as working in Construction!! I would assume that unless the new Apprentice Position is nothing more than a SALES job for condos(or something) Tana cannot possibly win. She does NOT have the Background needed for any of the previous Apprentice Jobs.

I'll be shocked if Kendra doesnt win.

Looking forward to next thursday's show!!

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 3:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Too bad Pataki had to wait. I am not impressed with any VIP and sometimes so called VIPs need to wait. But Tana did not know how to schmooze it to make it look alright. Clearly she was edited to look poorly.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 3:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I stick by my earlier post that the editing had nothing to do with making Tana look poorly on this task. They couldn't edit it to make her look good.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can buy that Lexie because it just seems to me that ,if they could have made it look more even, they would have done so to create more suspense??

I, too, was a Tana fan until that show. Now I can't see how anyone but Kendra should win. There is no way the Tana shown on that episode should win this thing!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 6:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, I am really dealing with some conflicting emotions here and it's not about Kendra and Tana but about the judgements being made on these boards ab out them.

In my opinion Kendra looked bad on several tasks, acted immaturely and surly besides (or pouty) and did not seem to be a team player and, all of a sudden she is the golden child.....based upon ONE task! Wow!

And it seemed as if Tana had what it takes on many past tasks, came through successfully, seemed liked by everyone, and now she is being viewed as 'dirt', worthless and an extreme failure....based upon ONE task!

Can't we look at their OVERALL performances and then make some assessments that don't drag in all this emotion and high and mighty self rightousness?

Now, I will lurk away and await the onslaught of comments who feel the need to continue their tirade against Tana and their accolades for Kendra.

I am also thinking that DT did not get where he is by being Mr. Niceguy all the time and I am sure he has filled a variety of roles in his career. I am sure he has been like both Tana and Kendra at times. He is not a god (but then neither is the governor of NY) so I would tend not to bow down and cater to them beyond what they have earned.

O.K. I just threw in that last paragraph without a lot of thought so be kind to me....please.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It’s nice to see someone defending Tana and taking an opposing view.

However, I think that the positive reaction to Kendra is more a question of momentum. Kendra’s star has been rising as the season progressed, from being in the background, to being a bit pouty, to taking on the PM role and achieving several victories through great personal performance but not showing much leadership and then apparently putting it all together on this last task, where she showed great personal performance and leadership.

On the other hand Tana started very strong and has declined considerably over the last few shows. It’s practically the exact opposite. She was a strong individual performer and she seemed to be the person who could work successfully with and manage anyone. And, then it all turned around.

Could be editing or could be reality but I think that is the way many viewers are seeing it.

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 10:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer, I think you are correct in how both ladies have been presented to us over the weeks. I guess I am more surprised at the actual venom I read in the words of the posters towards Tana.

I've been uncomfortable as well with all the pros and cons of Rob and Amber in TAR. Almost to a point of
making me want to say, "get over it" and just enjoy the program for what it is worth.

We seem to get so wrapped up into the lives of these contestants. But, perhaps that is the nature of reality TV.

Puzzled
Member

08-27-2001

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 11:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't see any sudden venom being aimed at Tana.

She made several mistakes on this task and she didn't treat her team-mates effectively. This doesn't make her evil. It just demonstrates that she probably wouldn't do well in the kind of corporate structure that Trump runs.

It's also not new--she got a lot of flak for walking out on Kendra to get her beauty sleep.



Dingy_diva
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07-23-2004

Saturday, May 14, 2005 - 11:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I think most everyone here knows these Reality shows are not in fact...Reality.
To take any of them seriouly, either to root for or against each one takes to much energy for me! LOL I don't give a flip who wins what!
But I do love to read all the comments and gab with everyone. It's called harmless fun in my book. Sorry if you were offened, but I think you're taking things a bit to seriously as to what is posted here.
This is one of THE BEST sites on the web as far as being well behaved compaired to some other sites! LOL
Editing is a funny thing. We see what we want to see. Each person will see the same event differently. Most of it based on who WE like. Kinda like witness to a robbery. Each Eye witness will have their own version of the events as they saw it.
The only one who really knows what happend is the robber! LOL

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 6:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Auntie Mike, that was what has been so disconcerting to me. Kendra has either been edited to look like a petulant child or has acted like one, then BOOM this great performance on the last task. Tana has either been edited to look like a very capable competent woman who gets along with everyone or has acted like one and then BOOM on the last task she is none of that.
It was such the opposite behavior that we saw that threw me off.
I do think it's interesting that much was made of how each ladie's team thought of them and they of their team. I think those relationships will come into play somehow in the finale.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have always been pro-Kendra, not necessarily Anti-Tana. I don't think I'm spewing venom at Tana - unlike Tana who was spewing venom at her employees (team). I still have in my mind that image of Tana raising her fist in anger at her team and her "hanging back" so she wouldn't have to walk with her "employees" to her car because she was the boss - while Kendra was hugging her team and crying over her team's performance at helping her task become successful. IMHO.

The only way Kendra can lose this is if...


Ramsfan
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01-27-2004

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 11:53 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I admit I would have never picked Kendra for the final in the beginning. But she has steadily improved week by week, despite being very annoying at times. I just love to see someone who works hard! I hope she wins.

Tana has been very consistent. I liked her at the beginning, but lately she has come across as very arrogant and condescending. I couldn't believe the whole staying behind like an executive. blech!!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 12:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Autiemike said:

"[Trump] is not a god (but then neither is the governor of NY) so I would tend not to bow down and cater to them beyond what they have earned."

I agree with you Auntie, they should not be "bowed down to," but the office of the Governor of New York deserves respect, especially when he's taking time from his busy schedule to attend the event. I'm sure he had more pressing matters he could've been attending to. He was an invited guest at the event and should've been treated as such. If you invited someone to your home, would you leave them waiting outside while you got yourself organized? I hope not!

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I haven't read all the posts yet, but was surprised by how Tana appeared to morph into a totally different person then my perception of her this whole "job interview".

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 2:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I posted weeks and weeks ago on my opinion of Tana. I called her phony and fake. So my opinion has not changed and this last episode has further cemented my opinion of her.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Me too. She irritated me from the first day. I hate the way she talks in the first person.

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You mean 3rd person, Pamy, as in "BabyJax mom is an English major, so those things bug her, too!" 1st person is "me, myself and I."

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I really, really do appreciate all your comments. I will now stand back and not take anything these two finalists do as serious enough for me to fret over any longer.

Ladytex: I too am seeing Tana as fake and phony to people's faces and then talks about them behind their back. Not very nice either.

Texannie: Thanks for your comments. I do think we saw such opposites this last time it was hard to digest the sudden switch.

I really don't care who wins and I am happy to be a stay at home mom who does not ever want to touch my big toe into that great big corporate world pool! (been there; done that).

Peace to all of you. No offense meant. And, yest, I do agree that posters here are so nice. Gotta get back to what my counselor suggested: Think, act and then feel. I sometimes lead with my emotions and it is not helpful.
Blessings...




Pamy
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01-02-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 4:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yep, that's what Pamy meant! Pamy is grateful to Babyjax!!!

Babyjaxmom
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10-20-2002

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 4:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL, Pamy!

Another Auntiemike quote:

"I really don't care who wins and I am happy to be a stay at home mom who does not ever want to touch my big toe into that great big corporate world pool! (been there; done that)."

Me, too, Auntie, me, too! This Mommy business is the most funnest job I ever had. Just wish it paid more!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Sunday, May 15, 2005 - 6:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Babyjaxmom. Kind of makes you wonder what Tana is getting out of this business world, seeing that she is a mom too.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:50 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only way Kendra can lose is if... she just doesn't show up tomorrow night.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched Larry King Live last night and his guests were Donald and Melania. Trump was saying that he hadn’t made a final decision but that he was definitely leaning toward one candidate. Of course, he has to say that he hasn’t made a final decision to make the show suspenseful.

Whoami
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 12:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
You know, the producers sort of built it up for a rather ustable finale. By making Kendra look so good, and Tana look so bad last week, its either going to be antic-limatic when Kendra wins, or everyone is going to be ticked off and lose faith in Trump's decision making process if Tana wins.