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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:09 pm
Westtexan, I'm with you.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:12 pm
I work in a very large law firm in Dallas. If Bradford had pulled that type of stunt practicing law, he would have been fired and sued for malpractice.
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Sasman
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:20 pm
I think that that was the worst move since marcellas. What a shocker!
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Lilfair
Member
07-09-2003
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:24 pm
As soon as he said that he'd waive the exemption I thought uhoh Trump ain't gonna dig that move. But since I really thought Ivana was a miserable PM I hoped that she would go.
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Sasman
Member
07-08-2003
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:26 pm
Ivana did look extremely shocked to find herself still in the game. Stacie is too full of herself to realize that she should have felt relief. Love the Donald.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:27 pm
I was absolutely shocked Sasman. I thought he was crying when he left. When he said I dont have my bag, I was what a bonehead. I tell you if it was me I dont know which one I would get rid of but I probably would have gotten rid of Stacie. That group was a disaster. I thought the Donald was a riot when he said Ivanas name. It was a fun boardroom. and when he told that girl to just keep her mouth shut. He is brutal this year.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:27 pm
Ivana's reaction was priceless. Her "indecisiveness" bit her in the butt big time. I can't wait to see everyone's reaction next week. I think if Bradford had not been there, it could very well have been the one who couldn't keep her mouth shut. Jen, right?
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Chicagolooper
Member
05-09-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 8:44 pm
What a shocker! But Trump was right. Anyone who makes that serious of a blunder in front of an executive deserves it. Had he remained exempt, IMHO, Ivana would have gone due to her being too "wishy-washy." Also, the Donald is very, very tough now. Last season, he was kind. This season, he has taken the gloves off. Perhaps it is because he is looking for the winner to head up one of his companies. So far, I couldn't begin to speculate who would be a clear favorite.
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Westtexan
Member
07-16-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 9:04 pm
I just felt so bad for the guy. Wow. I'm too soft. Donald would fire me the first day.
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Wink
Member
10-06-2000
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 9:08 pm
Caroline seems to have upped the ante this year as well with her comments to the players. Bradford that has to be one of THE biggest dufuus moves any reality player has ever made. Stacie and Ivana should be counting their blessings. Well Ivana should. Stacie has her magic 8 ball.
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Westtexan
Member
07-16-2004
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 9:17 pm
Brutal!! Just brutal.
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Lurknomore
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 9:37 pm
I totally see this differently. In real life this would have been a brilliant move. Bradford, who had fallen out of favor on his team knew he was one of the strongest performers on the team, and was not in risk of being fired based on performance (which is allegedly the criteria). By removing the exemtion he gained the respect of his teammates. And there were...and ARE...2 extremely weak and poor players there. This was done for one reason only...to get a show buzz and to gain cheesy attention. What I liked about this show is that it was a slightly higher caliber than some of the other reality shows. If they now resort to stunts like this (and if there is any question go to the web site and see how they are promoting "the boardroom you can't miss that everyone will be talking about") I'm done with this show. In real life I hope Trump wouldn't be stupid enough to fire a strong and intelligent employee when there are far weaker links. This was, pure and simple, TV viewer manipulation. And I don't like being treated that way.
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Donut
Member
07-31-2001
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 10:36 pm
bravo lurk! i never liked this show, but thought i would try it but i'm with you! of course he will be back in a few weeks like they did with omerosa...
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 10:49 pm
I don't get why Stacie didn't get fired! What in the heck is going on? Her own team says she is a loose cannon and a liability more than an asset. The only thing Bardford did wrong was ask that the immunity be not enforced. He did nothing wrong on the task. So he got fired for putting himself on equal footing with the rest of the team? Wow, I guess no good deed goes unpunished. Well, at least a deed that had nothing to do with his efforts on the ice cream task.
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Thursday, September 16, 2004 - 10:58 pm
And what's up with 2 of the 3 choices Ivana made on who to take to the board room??? Trump himself said that Bradford was the best in the room, and the other woman shouldn't have been there. So what's up with who they take with them??
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 12:30 am
Have I gone daffy? I see 15 posts on this thread before mine, and it looks like the first post is right in the middle of a conversation. It looks like there should be some archived posts, but I don't see any archived pages for this thread. Am I missing something? Did my computer go daffy? Or maybe I just don't know how to read a conversation any more? 
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Kathyb
Member
09-11-2000
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 4:29 am
<<I don't get why Stacie didn't get fired! >> The controversial nutty candidates bring in the ratings. I think this reality show manipulates the viewers more than any other. Omorosa should have gone long before she did last season. Also Sam.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 5:41 am
As the show progresses, Trump knows who the final contenders will be very early on. He was not impressed with Bradfords performance in the first task and I think he was earmarked to go anyway. He was impulsive and jumped quickly to take charge. It didn't work but giving up his security was one more example of this personality trait. I saw this coming when Trump said he would take him up on his plan and open him up to be fired. Plenty of time to let Stacie go. She will be offered for slaughter at every turn and he knows this. Her oddball behavior will continue.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 7:13 am
Whoami, sorry for the confusion. I guess it does appear like a continuation, but I was actually answering a question from another thread about starting this one. I believe, in the heat of the moment, Bradford got just a little too full of himself. I don't think he was trying to impress his team members. He was working on Donald who already seemed to be greatly impressed with him. I believe he could have gone a long way. The biggest fault he had (other than his ego) that I could see was letting someone else be in the charge. And I'm not so sure that he doesn't have a problem with respecting women. Last night he was acting like a p--p getting his stable ready for work. Yes, Donald did say there is sex in the boardroom but I applaud the women for not jumping on the bandwagon. They would have easily won the competition if they had been selling instead of looking for each other.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:07 am
I agree with Fruit AND Lurk! I think firing Bradford was a combo of both their ideas. Who...I think the mods moved some posts here, you are fine! lol
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:13 am
Trump has been honest about the TV show aspect. He was asked if he let Sam ride one more week for ratings and he said yes. This was on the View. He made no bones about it. He also admitted that the contestants were chosen for their looks from the qualified applicants. He said this is TV. This is what they do. He is a business man and he is creating a TV show for ratings and drama. I have no problem with this. I like it. He has never claimed this to be anything more than entertainment and in the end he hopes to get a good employee and admits that may not happen every time.
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:23 am
I know many (including my DH) see it differently, but I was shocked at Bradford's firing last night...I thought the firings were based on how well they performed in the task. Bradford choosing to give up his exemption: I thought he did it to be a part of his team, as a team player, knowing he had done well in the task and that there were at least two others who had done very poorly. When the Trump fired him for it..to me Donald was saying..it should always be all about you, be selfish, don't be a team player, it is I I I I. At least that is what I would have learned from that if I were Bradford...lol
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:32 am
The firings are all about Donald judging their business sense. There are no set rules. You are correct. That was Bradfords logic. Trump though it a foolish move that indicated impulsive and arrogant behavior that could appear when a situation calls for caution. He was safe and not on the line. No reason to open his mouth except when asked. Ivana and Stacie were in danger. There are times when sitting back happens in big business and the sense when to do this is important. Don't forget that Trump considered Bradfords behavior last week and added this to his decision. Bradford did poorly last week despite his team winng the competition. They did that inspite of him not because of good leadership.
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:48 am
I think all of us were completely shocked, but after thinking about for, oh, 30 seconds, it made perfect sense. The arrogance was going to get him sooner or later. Having worked with attorneys for 25 years, that is a very common character trait. Fruitbat, you're right. Last week, despite everyone's suggestions, Bradford insisted on using his own and it bombed with the techs. However, they did use a variation of his idea. I have a 10-year-old and you can't go wrong with a car of any kind, especially one that crashes. This weekend I am going to try making my own donut ice cream. That just sounded way too good.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, September 17, 2004 - 9:57 am
LOL! I would have gone for the raspberry.
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