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Marameko
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07-15-2002

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 4:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well it seems dear ole Bradford is in a nutshell "COCKY". Will he go down in history as making the dumbest decision in Apprentice history by giving up his immunity ? I think so.
Share your thoughts in this thread.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 5:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't see it as cocky as much as confident. He felt that he had done a good job and was willing to stand by his decisions and team. I was frankly shocked that Trump, the man with the biggest set of bravados would be insulted by that.

Immunity_man
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09-26-2003

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, he was cocky and I think that the reason Trump fired him was because of the idiotic decision he made more so than the fact that he was cocky.

I think that Trump was insulted by the fact that Bradford was a clear winner, a strong leader, and he was starting out on the right foot by establishing himself as a true apprentice and yet he allowed himself to be counted as one of the losers and weaker candidates. He thought it was a power move, but in actuality it showed him to be ungrateful to the fact that all of his team members applauded his effort and his ability. When someone pats you on the back and tells you job well done, you do not throw that away. Trump probably saw that as reckless behavior

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tex, I was surprised as well, and must say that to me, DT made the big mistake. Ivana should have left last night. IMHO

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
My dh and I both gasped. Dh thinks his crucial mistake was not making his cab speech in the boardroom to explain his actions. It might have gone a long way with Donald if he had of explained it in those terms.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It honestly sounded to me like something Trump would have done.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 7:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Immunity-man, I couldn't have said it better.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:09 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Jasper. I wonder if he actually did and we didn't see it.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We have two threads discussing the same thing. I put my take in the other one. Briefly, Bradford cut his throat when he led the women last week. Very impulsive and jumped to make decisions quickly with his, "I am making an excutive decision" stance. It didn't work and illustrated his impulsive nature to take charge too quickly.

Trump had him earmarked to go at somepoint and as it turned out Bradford could not contain his arrogance so this happened sooner than later.

Corriecat
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09-06-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 8:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fruitbat you said the same thing I was going to say. He made too many "executive decisions" last week. Trump saw that he was not going to listen to his team or his advisors once he had a real job.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 2:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that Bradford made the classic mistake of thinking that he was irreplaceable. Overconfidence killed the cat!

Maris
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03-28-2002

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 2:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think that Trump just wanted to keep Stacie because she is this years Omarosa, everyone hates her and she will drive everyone up a wall. makes for good tv. Firing Bradford is good tv and will have people talking about it at the water cooler.

Needmylifeback
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08-14-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 3:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The other thing that came out of it ...is we found out that the "Cab rides" are not pre-taped...he didn't have his suitcase....

Wonder if they ever gave it to him!

It will be interesting to see if Stacie changes in any way...or if the other women vote for Stacie to be in charge next week...

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 4:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Need, I had heard they were pre taped and I think Bradfords exit must have been filmed live because of this snafu. They probably just canned the taped one.

Carlcalif
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09-17-2004

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It was not Bradfords "cockiness" that got him fired- Trump admires this quality if you watched past shows. Trump was specific with Bradford: "stupid" and "impulsive" and the "most stupid decision" he had seen on the show, finally a decisionmaker like this "could never run one of his companies". It was surprisingly harsh but when you are an entrepeneur like Trump its all for one and one for one!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
rotf! you should see what shows up in new messages of the above post!!!!!! hahahahahh

Broxi
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03-11-2004

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 6:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just could not believe "The Donald" fired Bradford. It proved to me that this show has NOTHING at all to do with work ethics and Merit. If it were Bradford would still be there! Sure he was not smart in giving up his exemption, but if based on Merit...Bradford should not have left!
JMO

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 7:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well I think its valid to look at it thru Trumps perspective. I kept thinking, if he played it up as the "team" concept, and that's why he went with the team, but no, he came across as impulsive... and I too would've like to seen some of the cutting room floor tape! Also I believe that they do pre tape some of the exits, where is the thread on where the "board" room is in relation to their 'suite" ? Amy was on the radio and said that all they have in their suitcases is one change of clothes and basically an "overnight" bag - they stay in a hotel a block away and come back the next morning to pack for good!!

Shelb724
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10-20-2002

Friday, September 17, 2004 - 7:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
what i think will be interesting is watching the repeat tomorrow night (saturday). there was a lot left out of the last episode that explained the firing, and tha tmay happen again tomorrow night. i felt bad for ivana--she probably thought bradford was safe. but she made some dumb decisions as far as taking 2 or 3. i do think that trump likes having stacey around, but i dont' think i could handle being that isolated from my team. where everything that went wrong was supposedly her fault.

Sewamazing
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11-24-2003

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 1:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't talk in the boardroom other than answer Trump's queries when directed at you! Bradford played himself. Poor strategy there. Jennifer has herself "marked" for elimination--she totally annoyed Trump and continued to speak over him. Isn't this supposed to still be a job interview? These candidates should handle themselves a little better when they come before him.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 5:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Last year someone got fired (a woman) because she did not stand up and defend herself so it is situational. Jennifer was not in jeopardy this time so keeping her mouth shut was the wise choice. Had she been under fire he would have wanted to hear from her.

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 1:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was shocked that Trump fired Bradford. I think it was a mistake but my husband saw it in different terms. He thought Trump did the right thing because Bradford had an advantage over his competition and willingly gave that advantage up. That is a major business faux pas and Bradford paid for it.

I can't wait so see the reactions when they walk back in next week.


Hootyhoot
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12-18-2001

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Fabs ... that is the best explanation I have heard for why Bradford got fired!

Immunity_man
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09-26-2003

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just watched the additional footage and you really get a better glimpse as to why Trump fired Bradford. They really should show more boardroom stuff cause it's some good business banter in there. Bradford was let go for the simple reason that he did not value his victory last week. I would have fired Ivana, but I fully understand why Trump didn't. The best way I can say it is that taking your team to victory should mean something and by Bradford giving up his immunity he made winning as a project leader means absolutely nothing. Trump wants his apprentices to really work hard at winning and he had to fire Bradford otherwise they would have said "well, I guess it doesn't matter if you win or lose as the project manager."

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Saturday, September 18, 2004 - 7:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
One thing we're forgetting is that Bradford wouldn't have been fired if he wasn't picked by Ivana to go to the boardroom. Just a thought.