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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 3:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that she didn't do it ALL by herself. But she did do an awful lot of it. It appears from what we saw that Tana and Kendra did some initial market research together and Tana and Craig supervised some of the picture taking (though Craig got angry when Kendra asked him to keep her informed - too bad Chris didn't do that with Alex - they might have got some interior shots).

Kendra came up with the ideas behind the brochure and emphasising emotion, she came up with the idea of business card and the cd holders (which Ford and Trump praised and Tana and Craig had opposed), she designed the shape of the brochure, she selected the final pictures and she wrote it.

So she didn't do all of it but she did almost all of the important parts and she finished it! Could she have managed Tana and Craig better? Maybe, but I think these people are impossible to manage in this game.

Ladytex
Member

09-27-2001

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 3:42 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Craig went into this thinking to sabotage Kendra, from what I saw. I don't think she could have done or said ANYTHING to please those two.

Denecee
Member

09-05-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Who was the guy at the computer working with Kendra after Tana and Craig had gone? He was sitting at a computer with Kendra behind him telling him this or that. It seems like they had some outside help besides the photographers.

Csnog
Member

07-18-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
We don't know that she did all this work herself.

We don't know that she designed the shape all by herself.

We don't know why they had to do an all nighter when DT was not going to see the GM people until evening. They may have had time during the day to finish. We don't know.

We do know that Kendra told Craig and Tanna that she had the knowledge and knew how to do brochures.

We do know that Tana has done research with the public in at least 2 other episodes and the public provided the words used in the brochure.

We do know that Craig who did the photo shoot went to another room to concentrate on wording the brochure and Kendra didn't like that.

I just don't think we should put Kendra on a pedestal and discount the other team members work just because they had 4 more hours of sleep than she did.

I don't think Craig, Bren or Alex are worthy to be in the finals.

Does anyone know how many times Kendra and Tana have been PM? I know that Craig has been PM once.

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Csnog. Tana has won twice and been PM twice.

I see Tana and Kendra as final two and Kendra may win on her previous job performance. I like Tana and find myself rooting for her. I have been impressed with ability to lead. My post above sort of sells the Kendra for the win position. Trump would be a fool not to snap her up as either the winner or for another position.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 6:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
footnote: Tana & Craig left (at least from the editing) somewhere between 2:35 and 3:35. Kendra got home at 8:30--so they got anywhere from 5 to 6 hours more sleep/rest than Kendra...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First of all, I have to LOL at myself. Poor Pontiac literally gets an hour long infomercial out of this on their new car and I refer to them as "Ford" in an earlier post.

The reality of the show (pardon the pun), is that the entire show was edited to reflect Kendra’s supposedly superior work ethic and drive to finish and succeed. This was done at the expense of every other candidate. The show went out of its way to make Tana and Craig (and to a lesser extent Alex) look like they don’t have the "Trump" drive and determination to gut it out and succeed.

Trump hammered home, "Work 48 hours straight if you have to" and "Never ever quit!"

All three were clearly shown to have quit at some point before the task was completed. They couldn’t have been more obvious about it, short of flashing big neon signs and putting large "Quitter" bubbles over their heads.

Now whether this was just a smoke screen to keep things interesting or if it truly reflects Trump’s view of the remaining candidates remains to be seen.

Csnog
Member

07-18-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well you couldn't expect them to stay around while she was having her sexual experience.

No pun intended. lol

Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
WEEKLY TEAM STATS

Win/Loss records of remaining candidates:

Tana 2 - 0
Kendra 2 - 0
Bren 1 - 1
Alex 1 - 1
Craig 1 - 0

Fruitbat
Member

08-07-2000

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 7:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
uep, Jimmer. Hard to know. I am with that take.

Curlyq
Member

07-10-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 8:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Goodness, did any of you see that Reality Secrets Revealed 2 show tonight? Now I have a hard time believing anything I see on this show. I had never noticed that part of the credits that says Trump discusses the eliminations with the producers and NBC. I guess it's not George and Carolyn's opinions he's really listening to after all.

I think the producers and Trump decided what story they wanted to tell this week and then edited the footage accordingly. I just don't get why they spent so much time on the Magna storyline rather than on the losing team to show where they went wrong. Now that I realize the walls in that suite don't go all the way up, and that they can hear into neighboring rooms, I wonder if Tana and/or Craig got wind of that conversation between Alex, Kendra, and Bren about cutting them out.

I love how you all catch these little details, though. Like the meeting being at night. I hadn't even noticed that. Maybe they had an early deadline to get it to the printer? I don't remember the teams being up all night last season when making the Levi's brochures.

Seabreeze
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09-05-2004

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 8:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am finally watching a tape of the show now and I think Kendra was wonderful. I thought the guys acted sexist from the comment Bren made about the guy and 2 chicks not knowing how to do the project re:a car and the girl model posing by the car. I think Alex was sliding thru...come on, you mean he did not take any interior shots???? What was he thinking???

Tania and Craig could have slept on the floor and one at a time kept Kendra company while she worked. I could not believe they let her do the work all night by herself...I mean, how did they think the project was going to get done????

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Why were Tana & craig sleeping in the same room? Not a big deal, just curious. I would think there'd be plenty of rooms and I'd rather sleep alone...

Cdbga
Member

10-04-2004

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tana and Craig have been roommates all along, I think. There was a clip in one of the shows from right after the first corporate restructure. Erin wanted Tana to switch rooms with her, so they'd be on their teams side of the suite and Tana refused and said something about wanting to stay roomies with Craig.

Earlier in this thread someone brought up last season's restaurant task and Trump having been upset about their allnighter. I think the difference is that in the restaurant task, they stayed up all night, then had to work the next day in the restaurant, so they were all tired. They stayed up all night just cleaning the restaurant, which is something they could have hired a service to do for them(which is what the other team did). On this task, they stayed up all night to basically complete the job...all they had the next day was a short presentation. Completing the brochure was not something they could have hired out.

Csnog
Member

07-18-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 6:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Neither of the brochures went to the printer.

They were both a one of a kind that was probably developed on a computer. The man we saw with Kendra and the the one that Chris, Bren and Alex were given.

They also pounded "I did it all by myself" that Kendra kept saying. We know that Tana and Craig worked 18 hours on this task with Kendra yet she did it "All by myself?" This is the thing that bothers me.

There was an entire day that we were not shown except that the teams received the brochures and had a setup for their presentation. Why didn't Kendra have time to tell her team that she would make the presentation after all that me, me, me talk. Was she sleeping all day?

The big test will come during the interviews that will be thrown at them and the final 2 candidates final task.

Kendra has the background that Trump is looking for and if she does well Kendra will be his choice.

Craig and Bren will be eliminated and I dont think Alex will survive either based on his contribution on the last task.

Final 2 prediction, Tana and Kendra.

The board room is a set on a stage as we saw in the first show when they dropped the walls and turned the stage towards the audience.



Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks Cdb!!!

Jasper
Member

09-14-2000

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I pooh-pooh Kendra's I did it all myself for a couple of reasons, one being what you stated that there was a whole days work before the all nighter where Craig and Tana both contributed, second she kept stating she had idea, but never seemed to share it. Lastly, she was fairly disagreeable to work with on both tasks when Tana and Craig were leaders but she seemed to want to be blindly followed by them both.

Dalm_dad
Member

07-06-2004

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I just cannot believe people are still supporting Tana and dissing Kendra. I am not on any Kendra bandwagon, but give the girl her due. Craig and Tana ("I am exempt, hear me roar") may have contributed, but they certainly did not win it for the team and they certainly had no right to take credit for winning it.

Dalm.

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Craig has no right to anything.... not in this episode.

Auntiemike
Member

09-17-2001

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kendra may be creative to put out a great brochure....but, be a team leader. No way!

Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 8:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think I agree with auntiemike. I'll even assume she did most of the brochure herself. And she has energy and determination to get the job done. That is all well and great, but it does not make for a great team leader.

Tallen
Member

04-18-2005

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First time poster here - peeking in:-)

As a marketing / graphics person, I can say that to produce a full color brochure in a day in a daunting task. To have a final product, you would need to pull an overnighter so that production staff can give you a final piece. I would imagine that the presentation was later in the day - to allow time for packaging. Also, it looked like the teams had graphics staff to assist them. I noticed in the show that when the "guys" were given their final piece they were told to be very careful and that the brochure was hand put together yet nothing like that was shown for Kendra's team. Maybe she got it completed earlier enough that the designers could actually produce a high end piece.

Just my opinion.


Julieboo
Member

02-05-2002

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Welcome Tallen!

Tallen
Member

04-18-2005

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Thanks for the welcome. I've been "lurking" for too long and decided to jump right in.



Eeyoreslament
Member

07-20-2003

Tuesday, April 19, 2005 - 9:33 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Welcome Tallen!! Lurk no more! Welcome to the family!! Try to explore and post elsewhere if you're feeling adventurous!! We love new posters!!