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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 3:22 pm
It was Kendra's way, or the highway. Tana knew that she had nothing more to contribute - why stay up when there was nothing for her to do. On the other hand, Craig pretty much did nothing that I could see. The time he was project manager, he won because Tana took "the box" and made it something interactive. Tana saved his butt. Kendra won this on her own merits - and we all know that Trump knows who really did the work - but all it shows is that she can design a brochure. She doesn't show herself as an effective leader. Neither does Craig. Tana has shown an ability to LEAD. The true test will occur when the two finalists have to LEAD the previously fired candidates - who have nothing to gain by working hard. That will be the sign of a true leader. Who is left? Craig - won't make final two; Bren - might, and if his team has his old boys on it, they will try hard for him - but he has had limited experience working with half of the fired contestants - and he's a horndog (his mind is too much in the wrong place that rubs some women the wrong way); Alex - some of the same comments as for Bren, business is a good ole boy's game and Alex doesn't seem to be a very strong leader; Kendra - some will work for her, some might slack (depends on who is on her team), but she has only worked with Magna people so her interaction with some of the fired Net Worth people may limit her ability if her finals team has some well known strong Net Worth people; Tana - similar to Kendra, but she tries to make light of the situation and, to me, has been less grating. She also has the experience of being on both Net Worth & Magna, so she has interacted with more of the fired contestants (so if she remembers their work ethic & personalities, may be able to focus them on tasks that promote their ego & strengths), except for the two Magna gals (Erin & Steph) who traded with her and Craig. Should be an interesting final two. Now, previous shows, when it gets down to three vs two, hasn't the team of two always won? And Craig is due to be PM this week. Therefore, I predict Craig goes home next week. 'squeek'
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 6:21 pm
I don't understand -- Tana could have contributed if she stayed awake. Kendra wanted her to help with the brochure. At the very least she should have been available to critique whatever Kendra came up with. I used to work in legal publishing and everything written for publication was reviewed for style & content by several people. There is no way in practice that a major car brochure like that would not be reviewed by others. I had always liked Tana and she may still be my favorite. But I'm sorry, that was a really boneheaded move IMHO. I was shocked and disappointed, particularly with her comment about her exemption. Something else Kendra has going for her btw is an amazing real estate background.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 8:50 pm
Buggles, I think Kendra wanted an audience while SHE did the brochure and first she wanted them to sit with her while she kept going through pictures. Had they all stayed it probably would have been a "too many cooks spoil the broth, er brochure". For one thing Craig was against including a CD or card holder so they would have argued again about that, and she was the one with experience in layout and setup and writing. Hey, they won! It worked.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 10:46 pm
Can I ask what gave you that impression, that Kendra only wanted an audience? It sounded to me like she really wanted some help. If the team was better off with Craig & Tana sleeping, which may have been the case, that really says something doesn't it 
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Rosie
Member
11-12-2003
| Saturday, April 16, 2005 - 11:25 pm
I am still wondering if both teams didn't try to set-up the PM's for failure. Tana and Craig weren't much help to Kendra and Alex did not have the requested pictures taken. I belive that I saw Alex select that blurry picture that went into their brochure? Not sure why Bren's writing was not well received. Tana was saved because she did an outstanding job on her brochure. She took charge, stayed up all night and the result was excellent. Chris was fired because he expected Alex and Bren to do most of the work. Alex had time for models to be photographed but not the logo, interior of the car, etc. Chris did not take charge and lead them to victory as Kendra did her team. What do you think?
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 4:02 am
There is a lot of footage to edit and they are making an entertainment show. Choosing the most dramatic and controversial material is a priority. The proof will be in who Donald hires as he is privy to the entire story. I think both teams worked together with everyone pulling their weight until the bitter end when Tana and Craig threw their hands in the air out of frustration, crying enough. I saw Kendra as being a lousy leader but personally creative. She is young and does not know how to organize a team or manage time. I expect to see Tana and Kendra in the end. This brochure may very well make the win for Kendra. Tana has a husband and children which could be a strike against her. I am rooting for Tana who has proven herself a valuable team member and leader from the start.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 9:03 am
Don't forget Carolyn has a husband and children too.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 9:50 am
Yeah Julie, that is one reason why I always thought Tana was a frontrunner in this. She shared some similarities to Carolyn. I agree with people who feel that Tana seems like an excellent leader. Where she has fallen short IMHO is as a follower. We saw a number of clips where she was disrespecting Kendra when she was in charge. Similarly she abandoned Craig for a time when he came up with the Home Depot box. Sure she helped at points, but she was defiant at others. And it's worth noting that this was when her leaders had come up with fantastic ideas, some of the best the show has ever seen. It amazes me that it is so rare to see both a good leader and a good follower. Bill Rancic seems to be the only such candidate DT has found to date. I keep wondering what motivates these people to be uncooperative with their PMs when it reflects poorly on them. The only reasons I can come up with are (1) they are trying to sabotage them, (2) they are unable to separate the personal from the professional or (3) pure unadulterated arrogance or ignorance.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 9:51 am
I know that Julie. I was just thinking, to work for Trump she would have to move her family to NY, commute or leave them behind and visit when she could. This **could** be a factor to consider. Tana has a career, now, so combining the two is not the problem. Again I have to cite editing. They are not going to show us all the moments when things run soothly. Teams, in every business, have conflicts and we are being shown those moments. Disagreeing with a team member or leader often produces a better product, it is all part of brainstorming and creating.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 12:55 pm
I re-watched the show last night (I don’t re-watch all of them but this one seemed worth it). Anyway, I was specifically looking for certain points of interest and here is what I noticed: - Both Kendra and Tana did the market research. They did it together. - They kept emphasising the clock and the time. It was about 2:30 AM when Tana and Craig went back to the suite. - Kendra tried to convince Tana and Craig to stay by telling them she respected their input. Tana told her straight out that she didn’t believe her and then asked her again how she was qualified to do this work. - Tana specifically said that she had done her best and then added that she had immunity and didn’t care. - The whole show really played up the emphasis of the importance of working and not quitting over and over again. This included a big inserted speech by Trump about how you should NEVER quit and that you should work 48 hours to get something done if necessary. It also included someone putting a clock in Tana’s bed. - they showed Trump observing Kendra clearly outperforming her team-mates in the basketball workout. They are really making it appear that Tana, Craig and Alex hurt their chances by “quitting” in the task (Alex by falling asleep – which was a funny moment in the boardroom). Finally, Chris made what I think was one of the classiest exit speeches ever seen on the show. He thanked his team-mates (most fired candidates blame their team-mates) and he made a point of thanking Trump and George and Carolyn. Very nice speech. The editors are certainly making Kendra appear to be a favorite to win now.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 1:24 pm
Maybe Alex is a Sam reincarnate.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 1:47 pm
Jimmer, I said as much above about Chris' exit speech in the Cab of Shame. He did make a point of thanking everyone for the opportunity, rather than blaming everyone else for his termination. He gained points in my book!
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 2:20 pm
Julie, comparing Tana and Carolyn is like comparing apples and oranges. Carolyn has worked for Trump for 11 years and didn't come to him as an apprentice or entry level executive. I don't know if the husband and children are a drawback or not and wasn't the one who suggested that it was, but reality is that it often is a factor. Anyway, don't think we can base hiring factors for a Trump Apprentice on people he sought out and hired for specific talents.
quote:Carolyn Kepcher as Executive Vice President, The Trump Organization Carolyn Kepcher is the Chief Operating Officer and General Manager for the Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor, New York and the Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. She has been with the Trump Organization since 1994 and currently oversees the day-to-day operations of over 250 employees at both Trump golf properties. She is also a key player in the development of future Trump golf properties in New York and California. On NBC’s “The Apprentice,” Kepcher is featured every week as a boardroom judge and her observations play a vital role in influencing host Donald Trump’s decisions. At the golf clubs in Briarcliff Manor, New York and Bedminster, New Jersey, Kepcher played a crucial, hands-on role in the acquisition, development, marketing and start-up operations. She worked on all stages of construction with famed golf course architects Tom, Jim and Tommy Fazio as the golf courses were built to Trump’s specifications. Today, there are over 450 members consisting of high profile business executives, professional athletes, political leaders and celebrities. In 2003, Trump National Golf Club in Briarcliff Manor was rewarded with the prestigious Five Star Diamond Award from the American Academy of Hospitality Sciences. With Kepcher’s vision and leadership, these courses have become venues for high-profile celebrity events and tournaments. Both golf properties are destined to host top PGA and LPGA tournaments. In addition to overseeing the development of $80 million in golf course construction and $40 million in clubhouse construction, she is also responsible for overseeing the $150 million real estate sales offering of the Residences at Trump National. This is the highest value condominium development in Westchester County. Kepcher’s role in the dynamic golf industry demands excellent organizational and managerial skills, along with a keen insight into the games’ trends. Within the Trump Organization, she has gained a reputation for creating aggressive sales and operating budgets and exceeding expectations. She is a member of many prestigious golf organizations including the Club Manager’s Association of America, the Metropolitan Club Manager’s Association, Professional Club Marketing Association and National Golf Course Owners Association. Before her employment with the Trump Organization, Kepcher was the Director of Sales and Marketing for the Beck Summit Hotel Management Group, a nation-wide management company headquartered in Boca Raton, Florida. The company owns and operates hotels and resorts throughout the United States. Her responsibilities included formulating budgets, implementing operational systems, negotiating management contracts and creating marketing programs.
Carolyn Kepcher
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 4:48 pm
Show off 
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 8:51 pm
I finally watched this episode on Tape. I agree with Rosie "I am still wondering if both teams didn't try to set-up the PM's for failure. " Craig made me angry. he seems to withdraw from most competitions mentally and I dont feel he should be there at this stage of the game. *** Chris crying as he left the Boardroom broke my heart. Deep down he is still a KID! He showed that side to us all in the way he immaturely reacted to Critism with anger/ being defensive. Chris felt that his abilities that made him a Millionaire should garnish him some respect from his fellow teammates. I didnt see any respect there NOR did I see Chris respond in an adultlike way. I was pleased DT called Chris back from the Doorway for a pep-talk. Basically Chris IS a good kid with a lot of potential. Glad he quit the tobacco too. ****
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Sunday, April 17, 2005 - 11:16 pm
I watched it and was happy to see Tana fall from the pedestal my sister has put her on. We have disagreed about Tana all season and now, after watching this episode, my sister thinks she is phony. I worked a friggin retail job and pulled all nighters. I think they can do it for the Apprentice! Kendra stated very early what her theme and vision was. For Craig to try to accuse her later on of not having any ideas as to the theme was a downright lie. And when he called her "young lady"(was that the preview?)!! He is so condescending! Not to mention- Kendra was the one who gave Craig props after they didnt follow him with the box idea yet it prved to be great. He should have shown her the same respect. I think theres a side to Chris we didnt see because it seems like Carolyn and Trump really liked him and Alex went to bat for him quite a few times.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 9:20 am
I'm with Fabs on this one. For $250,000 for one year, I can pull an all-nighter.}}
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:00 am
hmmmmmmmmm Looks like a winner to me........... Kendra, 26, is an ambitious and highly successful real estate entrepreneur. She obtained her undergraduate degree in linguistics from the University of Florida, and upon graduation became the founding Editor-in-Chief of an award-winning lifestyle magazine in South Florida. Kendra went on to obtain her real estate license, and incorporated her media expertise into the development of My House Real Estate, Inc., an innovative real estate marketing company specializing in condo conversions and land acquisitions. My House Real Estate, Inc.'s marketing strategies are virtually unparalleled, and have generated involvement in some of Florida's most sought after real estate. Kendra is currently one of the highest producing real estate agents in the marketplace. Additionally, she is "Special Agent 53" on My House, Florida's #1 real estate investment talk radio show on Clear Channel radio.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:36 am
Lexie has now moved all her stuff to the "Kendra is a Winner" corner... I really hope she wins it!!!
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Kellirippa
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 10:44 am
I don't have the luxury of having the episode on tape, so I can't revisit it to answer my questions.. Did they ever say how long Alex slept for? Did he crash on the floor there for a couple of hours or was this just a 10 minute cat nap? I too have pulled all nighters to finish projects, and of course it's do-able, but I also know that I'm not exactly on the top of my game the next day. For all we know there was a lull in Alex's responsibilities and rather than sit and watch the others carry out their portion he said, anybody mind if I catch a couple of minutes of sleep? I didn't really get the impression that Bren or Chris took issue with Alex's nap. He didn't leave and go back to the suite, he crashed on the floor. I believe Alex was the one who said he slept in answer to Trump's question about why he hadn't jumped on Bren about the text, not Bren and Chris accusing Alex of dropping the ball by sleeping the night away. Also, during the Home Depot project episode, did the rest of the team not abandon Craig while he built boxes? I don't remember seeing anyone but Craig building them. Also, how does everyone know that Tana came up with the creative ideas for the boxes (the blackboard paint, handprints, etc..)? All I remember is seeing Craig build the boxes and then seeing the various team members during the workshop with the children and parents, where Tana was doing a great job of interacting with the kids, but I don't know that it was necessarily Tana's creativity that got them from A to B. I do remember Kendra saying that they had not been behind Craig on his vision for the boxes and something about he was the only one that truly deserved the reward. Craig and Tana seemed to feel that they had contributed what they were able to the Pontiac task and I'm sure they didn't just sit around and do nothing until 3 am, lets not forget the content is edited. I would expect that team members at this point would want to walk the fine line between support and sabotage. This is a contest, a game. It's about finding a business leader. Everyone must have a strategy in place. They have to decide how far they can go with Trump to not look like a slacker, but also not make the P.M. look too good at their own expense. AND, as an aside, I saw Angie on Denis Miller and she implied that Alex was gay.. is this something he's open about?
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 1:45 pm
My impression was that Alex took a nap for about an hour and a half on the floor. The other guys were more amused than anything – they weren’t upset at all. The only reason that the subject came up at all during the boardroom was that Alex stated that he thought that the writing for the brochure was terrible. Trump then asked him why he didn’t comment on that when they were doing it and Alex’s “defence” was that he had a nap. Pretty funny – Trump wasn’t impressed. I can’t remember all of what happened with respect to the box show, but I do recall Kendra emphatically stating that while they didn’t like the idea at first, they had decided that they were going to get behind Craig and support him and make “the best damn box they could”! No clue about Alex and his gayness (is that a word???). Even if the content is edited (which it is), the point is the editors seemed to be doing their best to make Tana and Craig look bad and to make Kendra look good. We'll see if that reflects Trump's views but it appears to.
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 2:39 pm
quote:Kendra stated very early what her theme and vision was. For Craig to try to accuse her later on of not having any ideas as to the theme was a downright lie.
I've been wondering about this. It's true that Kendra conveyed that she wanted the brochure to deal with the emotions the car evokes, but perhaps she didn't give them a clear and specific idea of the actual brochure she envisioned. If she didn't, that would explain why she didn't feel they could go forward with the work while she was still in the other room looking at the pictures. She couldn't trust them to do what she wanted without her being present to tell them what that is, especially since they had disagreed with some of her ideas earlier. It just seems kind of funny that after working on the project together all day, the other two were in the end treated like slackers when in fact they only left three hours earlier than Kendra did. Didn't she get back to the suite around 6? Yet from Kendra's comments we were given the impression that she did everything and they did nothing, and how dare either of them try to take credit for her accomplishment. Didn't Trump reprimand one team last season for pulling an all-nighter because he felt they should've made other arrangements to allow for sleep? I believe it was the restaurant task. When I worked retail we used to do overnight inventory once a year. I would usually get finished by 3 a.m., while some would stay until 8. That certainly didn't mean that they got the job done all by themselves while we slacked. If not for the rest of us the work would've taken them several nights instead of just one. If Kendra had overseen both photo shoots and handled all the marketing research by herself while still finishing on time, then she'd have a case. I guess that's why her attitude that she alone should get credit for the work didn't sit well with me.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 2:49 pm
Kendra got back to the suite at 8:30am.
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Csnog
Member
07-18-2002
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 3:20 pm
What I found interesting in the editing was that the Don was talking to the executives of pontiac at night. It was dark outside. They started this project at 8:30 am and finished in the morning the next day. What happened all day? There was a lot we were not shown. Craig was put in charge of taking pictures of the car in the studio and we know that Alex had about 200 pictures. That takes a lot of time. Kendra used a lot of me, myself and I in her confessionals and they emphasized this a lot. No one does it ALL by themselves.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Monday, April 18, 2005 - 3:22 pm
Curly, I think the difference was actually more like 5-6 hours. Someone please correct me if I am wrong. Honestly my impression was that Kendra was complaining because she had to put the brochure together by herself while the others were sleeping. We got it that they contributed on the task up until then and had a late night. I don't think they were treated like slackers but as unwilling to rise to the occasion and see the project through to completion. They were willing to accept failure (probably thinking they would blame it on Kendra) In fact Tana told us as much that she had no worries about getting fired, so see ya.......
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