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Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 4:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wifey and I so liked Apprentice I. So, it really hurt finding out about the house purchase scam and the late rental and what's her name's magically changing dress.

Now, it has really gotten to be just pure TV and nothing really like the original. We wait to see what company the task is related to. What freak DT keeps just for the entertainment value (actually has on just for the entertainment value).

I used to shut the computer down and really watch. Now, I surf and do other things and skim-watch the show.

Dalm.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gotta' confess some ignorance here -- What house purchase scam? Late rental? Magic dress? I musta' been snoozing, but could you let me in? I loved season one, but I didn't keep track of the contestants or online "fodder" much.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The other thing, too... odds are high that Danny boy will be in the boardroom more than once. In fact, I'd pretty much bet on it. But Todd? Todd could've ended up flying under the radar a bit. So, maybe Trump is thinking, "get rid of the lousy leader now, and Danny soon enuf"? In addition, if it was just Danny that had messed up, it'd make sense to fire him. But Alex also messed up with the lack of training provided to the rest of the team. So those two errors actually point back to a bad leader.

I can understand why they went by total number of units sold. The idea was for a limited time promotion. In order to see if an idea will fly, you want to count the numbers, not the dollars. From what I could see, too, Net Worth spent their seed money much "smarter" than did Magna. They bought costumes that tied in with their theme. Magna should've done something like baseball uniforms, and not those silly headbands with glitter balls that looked like martian heads.

Finally... did any of you notice the similarities between Todd and Kelly from last time? Same kind of look. Same kind of "sit back and play the number" attitude. And dang it if they aren't both from the same city (Carlsbad, just north of San Diego!)!



Whoami
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08-03-2001

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just got my chance to watch my tape of the show.

Todd did deserve to go. His unwillingness to train in the task was poor teamwork. You don't lead by insinuating to the team that you are above the tasks you've assigned to them. And it made him completely useless to the team when they were in trouble, and customers were walking out.

I also had to bristle at his "you're all doing a good job. I'm so proud of you." The tone in his voice was patronizing and insulting, especially when he used it as a line to dismiss the one guy who was trying to tell him he should get over there and get involved in the training session.

Who was it, Brian on the Street Smarts side that was using profanity in front of Trump? To tell him "that was f-ing amazing" was just downright disrespectful. I've pretty much spent most of my working life in a warehouse/manufacturing environment. And I must confess I came out of it with a rather colorful vocabulary myself. But I certainly have the common sense to not use that kind of language in mixed company, and most especially to one of the most powerful and successful men in the world!

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree Who, I was shocked he used that language right to Trump's face, esp since there has been no indication that Trump speaks like that!

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Teach, to elaborate during the first season:

1. There was the house renovation project. Apparently it came out that "the high renter", who came in at the last minute, was told about the whole thing in advance and told to be there.

2. During one of the final tasks, the rental of the Trump World Tower Apt, Amy and Nick (who were then subject of the made for TV-only romance) were courting renters who were adament about not paying the high rent asked for by A/N. So, we watch the clock tick down as A/N basically wait for a miracle in the lobby of the Trump Building. During this what should be a continuous period of time, he dress changes back and forth (no they were not having a quickie), indicating heavy editing and a continuity director that should be fired. Finally, at the last minute, our "ademant" renter comes back more than willing to pay the high rent and our TV Love team wins! A true made for tv moment. If you recall, their prize was that uniquely made for them plane trip which was supposed to be a way for them to express their true love for each other.

Darn, I am getting cynical in my middle age.

Dalm.

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 7:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
After rambling on about Amy, I checked out her website... http://www.ameliahenry.com/

Note the title...Amy Henry Inc. Seems kinda "out there". I shall soon be called Dalm, Inc. so when I flame someone, they cannot take my precious doggies.

Dalm.

Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 8:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know, I was in with my CEO and COO the other day and we were swearing and that was on company time. I don't see the big deal with a little "lighter talk" on free time.

Trump is from the City (and deals with construction workers), he knows the reality of the way people talk.

Dalm (also from the f&*^$ City.)

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 9:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This show is pure entertainment in both a good and a bad way. It’s good in that I enjoy watching it and it keeps me amused. It’s bad in that it’s simply not real enough.

On top of that, I just can’t get over how poorly these “highly qualified” candidates perform. They honestly don’t come up with much. The team that lost performed pathetically. No leadership, no imagination, and little ability. And, then they don’t represent themselves convincingly in the boardroom. If I were Trump, I’d be embarrassed (but I guess he doesn’t care).

Chieko
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11-20-2003

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The way I see it, Dalm, is that Mr. Trump may not necessarily mind that kind of language except it was said at the dinner table in the presence of his fiancee and even in this day and age I think it shows a certain lack of respect.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clearly Brian is an uncouth, uneducated, foul mouthed jerk and won't win the prize. Danny, likewise, is some pseudo hippie flake and has no chance.

I wish I would have watched the first season.

Now it sounds like a formula show, although the previews for next week teased some surprises.

How could you only have two people at the point of sale? Trump should have fired Todd and Alex both...and Danny too, why stave off the inevitable, LOL.


Whoami
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08-03-2001

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 11:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also think there is a huge difference in using "colorful language" in the presence of familiar company, and in the presence of people you've just met. It doesn't say much for Brian's ability to think and use common sense. And I wouldn't be too surprised if Trump brings it up when Brian makes it to the boardroom.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 4:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think colorful language is the thing to use to impress a perspective boss. While there maybe some CEO's or COO's who use it during offtimes with their executives, I cannot fathom any head executive being impressed with a prospective employee swearing without first knowing if the corporate culture accepted or "put up" with it.

Brian did make himself look like someone who couldn't control his mouth...can't see that going over in any job interview.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 5:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It may have just been my perspective (I'm a techie too), but I got the distinct impression from Danny that he was beginning to feel like he'd bitten off more than he could chew.

MS is right...things are a tad more relaxed in the tech world and clients/employers are more informal when it comes to office cultures. While us techies are all business when it comes to work, we tend to joke quite a bit, let our hair down and are not so concerned with keeping up appearances when it comes to the workplace. I don't think Danny has a clue about this side of business...the formalness, the protocol, the restrained reserve it takes to hold one's own. To me he seemed like a fish out of water and during the boardroom session he was in confusion as to why everyone seemed to be against him.

While Raj was funny and quirky, he understood business on Donald's level and was able to push the envelope without tearing it. I really felt for Danny. I'm sure he is good at what he does, but he really has no idea how to cope in Donald's corporate culture.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Which is why the show is starting to get boring. Too many of the applicants are all carbon copy cutouts like Todd, or the guy who won last time, already forgot his name.

Then Trump slips in some quirky guys like Brian and Danny, that you know have no shot.

It's all about flying under the radar.

Or if you're going to be Project Manager you damn well sure better win.

Personally I'd stay away from the PM job, unless it was something I excelled in, like if I was a bridal shop owner and the assignment had to do with brides!


Dalm_dad
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07-06-2004

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chieko....don't even get me started on trophy wife Melania. The minute she is brought into a episode, everyone clicks into "All Hail the Queen" mode. Not to be blunt, but she was a nobody before she met The Donald. I know she was a model or whatever, but no one gave a darn. Now, you have to act like she is your Nanna?

I am sure she has heard worse when Donald comes home and curses that Danny is a %^##@$ idiot or some contractor won't cut 10k off a price.

Look, I do not have a toilet mouth, but I can see where this guy is coming from and I am sure he would not have done it if he did not feel the surroundings and people would have aggreed with it. I won't swear when I first meet you, but give me a little time with you and if you are not a stuffed shirt, I may let loose.

Nuff said.

Dalm.

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Gotta agree with Kep on the language thing. I'm certainly not one to hold back when I am amongst friends, but I think that when you are trying to impress someone and are on a "job interview" (no matter that it's 16 weeks long), you have to be able to hold your tongue until you're part of the gang. I also agree that Trump's girlfriend's presence might alter how I would talk.

all hail Queen Melania <--- Dalm said it, not me!!

Madelane
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08-20-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 2:38 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's probably too late to post this warning, but I was just able to get my computer back up and running.

The link Azlen posted on the 21st caused my computer to crash and uploaded spyware. I finally cleared off all the spyware and got back online. I'm just warning anyone who might have that problem.

That being said, what was the link to? Some gossip or photos?

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 2:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Madelane, thanks for the warning. The link Azlen posted was to Snopes website. It is an Urban Legend Reference site where you can check whether something is true or not. I visit it often and have never had a problem with it before or in clicking on Azlen's post. I am betting that you picked up the spyware at some other site.

The site said that the story about DT being broken down on the side of the road, receiving help from a passerby, and then DT paying off the passerby's mortgage was false - not true - so DT told a lie.

Costacat
Member

07-15-2000

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 9:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Mads, I didn't have any problems either. I've gone to Snopes quite often, and was able to read the article (which debunked the myth that Trump actually did have limo probs and then paid off the guy's mortgage).

Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I too went to the site and had no problems. Snopes still claims it never happened, even tho DT said on national TV that it was true.

Who to believe? Well I guess that's a personal choice...

Madelane
Member

08-20-2001

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm glad you guys didn't have any trouble with the link - it must have been some problem with my computer. I have a new one on the way! I am so sick of viruses and whatnot.

Anyway I didn't mean to malign Azlen's reputation! :-)

Thanks for letting me know what the link was about. I can't see why he would say it was true if it weren't.

Mssilhouette
Member

07-11-2001

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 3:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Re: Urban Legends...DT & Mortgage

Well when you think about it, who's going to deny a story that puts themsevels in a good light. Of course DT said it was true, it makes him seem kinda and generous.

C'mon now the man has enough money to call for another car if his limo broke down somewhere. And doesn't he have a plane and a helicopter. Where the heck was he going that he couldn't have flown? I'm more likely to believe that it DIDN'T happen. It's too high on my BS meter.

Gen
Member

08-22-2003

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 4:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
It's too high on my BS meter too, Mssilhouette!

Madelane, if you are getting a new computer, it would be a good idea to buy and maintain a good virus program and firewall. I have Norton, but McAfee is good too. I regularly get warnings that someone is trying to access the "backdoor" entry way to the computer. The firewall prevents this.

Also, there are two good spyware programs that will remove spyware. Our tech guy recommends using both of them and both are free. Here are their sites:

http://www.lavasoft.de/

http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html


Kep421
Member

08-11-2001

Tuesday, January 25, 2005 - 5:37 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
There are also good free firewalls and anti virus programs that work very well. As a tech, I find Norton and McAfee both tend to not play well with the other programs we use at our company, which is why we use a different commercial enterprise antivirus software.

If you "google" free antivirus and firewalls you will come up with quite a few good free programs. I've used AGV antivirus on friends computers with no problems and Zone Alarm makes and excellent free firewall. We also use Spybot Search and Destroy.

http://www.download.com/ offers a list of free and commercial programs you can use to keep your computer safe along with unbiased reviews. The best defense against attacks on your computer is self education.