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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 6:46 pm
Sorry Roxi! Hope that didn't hurt! <insert really big grin here>
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 8:58 pm
I love watching this show. I'm not, however, too impressed with this group (especially those who are left). I'm glad Ivana is gone. She did, however, have a great idea with the wheel. I missed the Pepsi episode, so can't comment on that. Ivana seems to revert to her childhood when in a stressful situation. When she argues she sound like a child throwing a tantrum. Her arguments sounds like a child crying to a parent over what she thinks is preferential treatment of a brother or sister.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 11:17 pm
Abby, she probably does the very same thing to her parents. Didn't she mention her parents buying her a Porsche? I don't think it would be a stretch for me to say she just might be spoiled and used to getting her way.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Monday, December 06, 2004 - 11:39 pm
Fabnsab, your post is the second or third about Ivana/parents/Prosche. Can someone explain what this is all about? I don't get what her parents buying her a Porsche (if it is true) has to do with her appearance on The Apprentice. Anyway, did Ivana mention this on the show, or was there an article printed about this. (not that it matters, just wondering why all this about Ivana/Porsche).
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 12:10 am
one of the things that may have worked against Ivana's team is (as someone said) they were dressed kind of sloppy. In NYC, I constantly see kids trying to sell candy bars in front of stores. I guess for school or something. Not to say that Kevin & team looked like kids - but if I saw them as I was walking out of the subway, I totally would have ignored them (like you become accustomed to living here ) If they were all dressed in M&M colors and matching, it probably would have piqued my interest at least. (Or if the guys were shirtless ) And I definitely don't think Kevin's race was an issue. Definitely not in midtown Manhattan!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 12:36 am
Abby - When Ivana's team won last week, their reward was to race Lamborghinis at some track. Anyways, Ivana said that she hadn't driven that fast since her dad bought her a Porsche for her SIXTEENTH birthday, and she wrecked it. I think many of us consider a PORSCHE (of any year) a pretty darn good sweet sixteen gift. The way she sounded when she spoke about wrecking the gift was somewhat capricious. I guess if a Porsche seems like a reasonable gift for a sixteen year old, then perhaps Ivana doens't seem so spoiled. It's all relative, right?
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Annie
Member
11-10-2004
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 12:41 am
Ivana mentioned the Porsche her father bought for her, whilst she, Kelly and Kevin were racing the cars on the track. I'm glad she's finally gone! She may be a good team player, but that doesn't make her a good leader. I may be wrong, but the only good idea she had was the sizing wheel for Levi's, and even that isn't really innovative. If she had taken some responsibility for some of her actions, she may have been more likable. But she's been on a mission to get the others fired, and I don't think that makes you a good leader. DT has even called her out on being so mean to the others. When anyone is critical of her, she goes into "whine mode". The last episode during the selling, she told the "camera" that Kevin didn't ask her about selling the bars so cheap, she knew he was doing it, but she didn't stop it. Kevin was going to be her ace in the hole, but it didn't work this time.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 12:46 am
thanks annie for explaining about the Porsche posts. i missed that! (even though that should have nothing to do with how people feel about her actions on "The Apprentice" IMO)
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Boberg
Member
10-04-2002
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 7:13 am
"I'm glad Ivana is gone. She did, however, have a great idea with the wheel. I missed the Pepsi episode, so can't comment on that. " Exactly Abby, this is where Ivana really messed up. In the Boardroom instead of saying "well I'm better than (the other team)...she should have defended herself by saying "while I didnt perform at my best on this task, in the past task I have been an integrel part of other successes" and then list her accomplishments(such as the pin wheel) and her other contributions to winning tasks...Her defense of herself was WEAK..and she could have done so much better by listing her accomplishments instead. Also Ivana could have pointed out how her other two team mates just kinda of stood around looking dazed...she at least kept trying to come up with ideas...she didn't just stand there letting the ship sink as they appeared to do. I don't really care that Ivana is gone, this whole group has seemed weak to me.. On the subject of racism...Has anyone else noticed that none of Donald's people are anything but caucasion...at least none that have been on this show...hmmmm
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Tuesday, December 07, 2004 - 11:42 pm
Racism: I'm sure the Donald has the same mix of races in his companies as any other companies. There are a disproportionate number of ethnic minorities and women in higher positions in almost all companies. Racial and gender stratification do not exist only in his company. On another note, I watched this episode again tonight, and noticed another example of Ivana's indecision in the boardroom. At first the Donald asks if all three were eligible to be fired tonight, who would she fire. Ivana goes on about how she has worked more with Kevin, and how she would keep Kevin because he's demonstrated more leadership qualities. THEN, after more discussion, the Donald forces her to admit Kevin is good, and she says, "I think he's good, but I think Kelly is stronger." ACK!! I think I am more happy that Ivana is gone, than Baylex is that Ami is gone in Survivor.
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Sunshyne4u
Member
06-17-2003
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 3:12 am
Ivana could have pointed out how her other two team mates just kinda of stood around looking dazed EXACTLY......Kevin looked alot more dazed than Kelly though. I still wonder how he made it to final four LOL I know people who are papersmart......and they are crappy at the practical stuff. OR they are only good at ONE thing. Wonder who is left that is multitalented OTHER than jen.}
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 11:02 pm
Abby, when I mentioned Ivana and her porsche I was referring to a post above that said she seemed to throw tantrums and reverts back to childhood. I was making an assumption that if she got a porsche for her 16th bday that she may not be a stranger to tantrums and getting what she wants because I tend to equate a porsche with being spoiled. I made no mention of having a Porsche affecting her in the game. It was just an observation. Its the same as saying the military may have molded Kellys personality. Ivana's pampered upbringing could just as easily mold hers.
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Abby7
Member
07-17-2002
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 12:40 am
Fabnsab, the first paragraph that you mentioned above was posted by me (or one of the posts about her throwing tantrums): you wrote: "Abby, when I mentioned Ivana and her porsche I was referring to a post above that said she seemed to throw tantrums and reverts back to childhood." --------------- Fabnsab: i was one of the posters that metnioned that: my post of Monday, December 6 @ 7:58 pm.: my previous post was: Monday, December 06, 2004 - 7:58 pm --------------------------------------------------------------------------------: I love watching this show. I'm not, however, too impressed with this group (especially those who are left). I'm glad Ivana is gone. She did, however, have a great idea with the wheel. I missed the Pepsi episode, so can't comment on that. Ivana seems to revert to her childhood when in a stressful situation. When she argues she sound like a child throwing a tantrum. Her arguments sounds like a child crying to a parent over what she thinks is preferential treatment of a brother or sister. ------- Fab, my post sounds like one of the posts you are referring to.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 6:56 am
Indeed it was...
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 7:17 am
Old Don made an appearance on Imus in the Morning today and said that the season finale next week is THREE hours--why?--and it is going to be done live at Lincoln Center--why, part deux--and that it will feature Sam, Amy, Omarosa, and somebody else from last season--why part trois. I'm hoping Kevin makes it through tonight, but something tells me he's going to get grilled and he'll start perspiring. I SO want Jennifer fired tonight, but you know that means she's going to be one of the final two. Of course, she might be better than Sandi, whose best attribute is her rhinoplasty as far as I can tell.
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Thursday, December 09, 2004 - 9:44 am
I just saw Amy Henry and Nick Warnock (Apprentice I) on MSNBC. They gave their predictions about tonight. Both thought that Jen and Kelly would be the final two. Nick felt that Jen would win and become the new apprentice. Very little was said about Kevin. They didn't think Sandy would make it because she just doesn't have corporate experience.
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