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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:15 pm
Wes also went because he did not play "leader" and make Maria back the hell down. She was fighting with Sandy for 20 mins and he just watched. Several times he should have stepped up and "smacked" Maria down (or at least pulled her away) and he didn't. So it really was a 2 way thing. Maria just plain was horrible in her overbearing ways and Wes was horrible for his "underbearing" ways...
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Needmylifeback
Member
08-14-2000
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:23 pm
Best line of the night..."I just wish I had my own Cab"!!!!! I am the only one up and I had a really difficult time not LOL on that one! Trump had to know that Jenn didn't perform....that's why he has his spies!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:28 pm
and even if he didn't know at the actual time that this show was being made, he obviously knows by now... Jen is a little brat. I am liking Ivana more and more. I didn't like her much at the start of the season. I also loved that line Needmy. I also thought it was the best line of the night. Will there be a show next week?
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Gen
Member
08-22-2003
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:29 pm
Needmylifeback said: Trump had to know that Jenn didn't perform....that's why he has his spies! Need, I hope that you are right!
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:45 pm
LOL--tonight was a riot. My daughter and I were both saying that Trump should fire them both, and were amazed and laughing when he did! You're so right, Needmylifeback--that line was hilarious. Would love to know how the rest of he ride went. Hahahahaha. Can't help wondering if Trump doesn't pick out one or two who he really thinks could be Apprentice material and then lets casting choose the rest for drama. Could a savvy personnel department really pick so many screw-ups?
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Jami
Member
10-08-2003
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 9:48 pm
Ivana really impressed me tonight. I haven't been a fan of her's,,,but that wheel cataloge was a great idea. Jenn was useless on this task other than being a pretty model. I was galled for Ivana when she was called the best worker.
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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 10:07 pm
Great job Eeyore! Trump finally did the right thing tonite and gave us all "some good TV".Double fired..was priceless! Of course Maria deserved to be fired for all the times she just slid under the wire and Wes should have been gone a long time ago.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 10:57 pm
I loved Ivana's line about how the guys are mesmorized by Jen's "fem-bot" thing.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Thursday, November 18, 2004 - 11:44 pm
I can't believe he fired both of them. But I'm not sad, I have to say. To me that whole team is pretty non-descript. Andy is the most interesting. I really LIKE Kevin and Ivana. Kevin is cute, even if he did skeeve me out when he was sweating--and I wondered what his "man purse" was about in that once scene--and he looked great in jeans. And I like Ivana's snarkiness. I have a feeling Caroline's evil look when they left Jennifer out bodes ill, though, for their future. Caroline will prolly say "well, Levis said she did such a great job last week and you guys were trying to cut her out of the action." I can just see Sandi and Jennifer making it to the final two.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 12:59 am
Eeyore said, I know it's already been said, but I really wish this show was 2 hours. If you watch the rerun on Saturday night, they give you an abridged version of the task (about 15mins) then about 45 mins of boardroom stuff. Gives you a little more insight as to what happened before they got fired.
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Teachmichigan
Member
07-22-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 1:12 am
Have the Sat. night shows been on recently? We haven't seen one in about three weeks!
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 1:40 am
I am sick to death of Andy getting disrespected. Why does Trump single him out as needing to step up to the plate? If noone is complaining about him then he SHOULD be quiet. When Wes mentioned their strong suits, he only talked about Maria and Sandy, didnt even look Andys way. He was the one who suggested wearing jeans tonight. Of course, he was right. He was the one who tried to get his team to pick the winning designer for the fashion show and they silenced him. He seems to always be right and know what will win but noone will listen because of his age. How do you combat that when the whole team is against you? DT will say its his job to make them but in a real world thats not always possible when everyone shoots you down and you don't have one ally.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 7:02 am
I think Jen handled herself rather well last night. I know the editing made it appear she was a ditzy blonde, but I'm also taking into consideration that she handled herself quite well in spite of being excluded from the task and talked down to by both Kevin and Ivana... When Jen didn't understand Ivana's idea of the wheel (which by the way I thought was brilliant), they immediately dismissed her as a part of the team and set her aside to do the "busy" work to keep her occupied and outside the task. Jen, instead of whining and complaining, something Ivana DEFINITELY would have done had positions been reversed, did what was asked of her with dignity and grace EVEN THOUGH she knew she was being excluded on purpose. And correct if me I'm wrong, but I got the impression that the busy work Jen was given was actually writing the presentation...and then Kevin and Ivana totally went off on their own thing. When Jen began to speak during the presentation, I got the idea she was actually doing what she considered was her "assigned" task for this project. When Trump asked the Pres of Levi who did the better job, I think Trump was talking just about the presentation part. He could NOT have meant who did the best job on the project, because the Pres of Levi wasn't present when all the work was being done. Ivana definitely had great ideas and along with Kevin did a wonderful job on this project. But both of them were immature and non-professional in their reactions to Jen speaking during the presentation, and I know Trump and the client both saw it. What I saw as the main difference between Jen and Ivana last night was that Jen put her own personal feelings aside and presented a professional front to the client... Ivana (more so than Kevin) did not. I think Trump was refering to Jen's maturity and professionalism when he made the comment about the education paying off in this project. CEO's don't always have to have great creative ideas, but they do have to possess self control and professionalism at all times, especially in front of the client.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 7:09 am
Hey Fans, I think Trump wants Andy to step up to the plate more because he actually LIKES Andy and wants him to do well. I think Trump knows Andy has what it takes to be really good, but for some reason is holding back. I think Trump would like Andy to put himself out there more so that Trump can see what he's capbable of. Andy has all the creditials and good instincts.. He just needs the experience to give himself a tad more confidence to push past the barriers set up by his competing apprentices. I think Trump wants Andy to succeed....
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Rossbo
Member
07-06-2004
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 7:18 am
First...I'll say my mouth was open in aghast for about five minutes post-firing. It think it shocked everyone in the room, maybe even Trump himself. I loved it when Trump corrected them for calling Bill "Bill" and not Mr... I have heard speculation in other forums that all the job applicants did the taxi scene at the beginning of the show (when being taped) to not show "speculation" as to who would be leaving when and in what order. Well...they had to do something different that time.
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Fabnsab
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 8:00 am
I guess I am the only one not that impressed with the fit wheel. I spent many years in retail and I have seen it done before. Maria and Wes were on Regis and Kelly today and she is just as annoying off the show as on. regis asked if they were married because they make a good looking couple. They're both married, btw. He repeated his cab joke and said he thought he was safe after he heard Maria fired. He said he even pushed his chair back a bit to leave then heard Trump say he was fired too.
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 8:57 am
I thought it made more sense to fire all of them last week! Guess it was "foreshadowing" I get so confused at the "times" of the show, is it 3 days between firings, no that's survivor... eesh... Cant wait, hope they show us this again on Saturday!!
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Skypilot
Member
10-11-2002
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 9:13 am
Hasn't Maria said in the past that she is, or has been, somehow involved in "communications". I find that incredibly difficult to believe. She comes off like a raving lunatic. And for her to tell the Levi's guys that she decided against using the "butt shots" because the jeans didn't fit right in any of them was just the height of stupidity. Don't tell the client that their product doesn't work in the ad!!! What was she thinking? Glad to see her go. I never liked her. Last night I was thinking that she is someone who will self-destruct and take others down with her and sure enough Wes followed her out the door.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:07 am
The thing I thought was a bit dumb was after Sandy got in trouble for referring to Bill as BIll, Wes addressed Caroline by HER first name too. I can't remember Caroline's last name now that I think of it. Plus, if your friend introduces you to another friend at a party let's say (Bob, this is John Smith.), but THEN goes on to constantly refer to him by his first name, I think it isn't fair to expect others to refer to him as Mr. Smith. Trump constantly refers to George and Caroline as "George" and "Caroline", so how could they be expected to do any different? I just think it's inconsistent.
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:13 am
I loved how the other team decided to use themselves as a cross section of "real people" instead of skinny models. You just knew they were going to win since the editing did not show any griping during the task.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:28 am
It's Carolyn, FWIW....
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Lancecrossfire
Moderator
07-13-2000
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:29 am
I thought Andy has stepped up to the plate, as DT put it. The time Andy was the PM, his team blew away the other team for a win. If Donald likes him, I'd hate to see the way he would treat Andy if he didn't like him. Kep, I agree with you about Pamela and the ways it was meant about her doing a good job. As you point out, the president guy wasn't there to see the rest of the task and was most likely giving his evaluation about the presentation. I also agree she didn't complain at all about the tasks she was given even though she knew she was pushed to the side. As ST said, Ivana can't say anything without slamming someone. I loved how she made the comments about Pamela getting more and more blonde each time, when DT's blonde assistant was standing right there.
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 10:46 am
Last night show was great! They did a nice editing job on this one. Dual firing (I smell a producers hand in this one) Also I think the kudos giving to Jen was a manipulation by the producers. Since when did the Levi guy even have a clue as to who did what on the project to even guess at who did better. Why would Trump even ask that question it seemed a bit set up to me. Jen didn't do that much even if she did write the paperwork. Ivana's idea was competely brillant! I was clapping for her, that girl had a brainstorm like no other and Kevin ran with and took those gorgous photographes..Woohoo his body is hottt! Maria was out of control and the PM should have taken more control. But that goes without saying. I don't know why Trump is picking on Andy, he didn't need to step up to the plate, as long as he did what was asked he knew he wasn't going to get fired. Andy's not trying to put his neck out there for nothing. I think the Andy is smart and capable, I also think the producers are trying to stir the pot up again by having Trump call him out. Overall this was a better put together show then the others. Also someone has to tell me why all the tasks seem to involve creating advertisting spots. I don't remember this many ad crap in the last Apprentice. From the toothpaste to the NYP Police to now Levis..next they'll be doing perfume.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 11:23 am
Didn't the previews for the show imply that someone was going to bust back into the boardroom after the firing? I remember something like showing the door starting to close, and a voice-over saying something like "just when you think its over...." Then the door starting to open back up again.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, November 19, 2004 - 11:26 am
Pamela got the boot several weeks ago. Jennifer is the blonde left on the show.
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