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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 7:30 am
I have been rooting for Tana but she did not shine last night. She decided to go all that way for rinestones because she was familiar with that brands rhinestones? Is that it? Most New Yorkers would know to send her to Pearl Paint on Canal St; 15 minutes on the A Train from where they are in midtown. I was surprised to see that Trump, George and Carolyn did not think that highly of Tana, citing no fire. They clearly had that opinion before this challenge. Putting rhinestones on the T-shirts was a good idea, everyone who bought one wanted them added. The glue will hold through washings, it is sold at craft stores for that very purpose. They would have won had they thought of contacting the artists gallery. Their prices were more appropriate for a limited edition. Clearly, the aritists are Keith Harring wannabes. Kendra is a lock to win this. I was impressed with Alex's talk in the cab but not with him at all.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 7:51 am
Did anyone notice Bill Rancic standing with Trump when they were bulldozing that site?
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:12 am
When I was watching Tana glue the rhinestones on the shirts, I was praying the glue would seep through to the back of the shirt, and it would dry that way. Then the people wouldn't be able to wear them. I was eating up every minute that Trump was criticizing Tana and her stupid beads, and the time wasted on them. What's the deal with Mary Kay down in the States? Is it a GOOD brand? I understand the MLM aspect of it, and the cultish aspect of it, but is it like Avon up here? A piece of crap makeup brand, that you would never choose to buy on your own, but only buy because some friend of yours has decided to sell it, so you purchase out of guilt? I always groan when I know someone who is selling Avon and they hand me a booklet. It's like parents selling their children's chocolate covered almonds. You buy some cheap eyeliner or something, and promptly throw it away.
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Hummingbird
Member
08-21-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:13 am
Kendra is brilliant. The other two are not even in her league. Craig doesn't belong in the final three and is only there because he has been on Kendra's team. When those two went to bed and left Kendra with the task of producing a winning brochure for the Solstice all by herself, then tried to take credit, was when we saw where the talent really is. Kendra proved herself again marketing the T-shirt. She's the star here.
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Bonzacat
Member
07-08-2003
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:28 am
BTW, I had never seen one of these so went hunting...
ONLY $19.98!
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:32 am
<<Kendra is a me, me, me type of person.>> I disagree with this. When they won the Home Depot task, Kendra was generous enough to say that Craig was the only one who really deserved the reward. That was a REALLY remarkable and selfless statement imo and I'm betting that DT took notice. Also Kendra worked in tandem with Tana very well for the most part. I think if she were 'me me me' and awful like Craig claimed Tana would hate her too but that clearly wasnt the case. She also showed a desire to work as a team when she begged for Tana & Craig's help with the car brochure. Its not like she said 'fine go to bed, I can do better on my own & I want to play the hero.' She was pissed and saved all of their butts. It seemed to me that Tana & Craig were only thinking of themselves. Come to think of it, perhaps Craig also resents her for her education. Maybe that's why keeps acting like she has no experience when in reality she is extraordinarily successful in real estate.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:46 am
Eyore, I refused to allow my son sell xmas ornaments for the scouts one year, much to his glee I will add. I gave them a donation instead. I did not want to put my friends in that position. I have never been approached by a Mary Kay salesperson and I have no clue as to what the quality is. I think it is only make-up.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:48 am
Mary Kay is a reasonably priced, well-respected brand down here in the south. It was one of the original "door-to-door" makeup companies. In the past it has been marketed to older women but they are really pushing themselves at a younger market these days. You should see it here in August in Dallas when all the ladies - heavily decked in pink - come for their annual convention. It is a huge deal with celebrities in attendance doing their nightly shows. Many women have made themselves extremely rich selling Mary Kay. I was amazed at Tana's inability to focus on marketing last night - I wonder if the stress has made her lose her edge. I'll bet she doesn't make that mistake again. Do we know for certain that Kendra came up with the e-mail idea. For some reason I would guess that the artist, or his representative, probably tossed that idea into the mix. Now, Kendra and Craig may have asked the artist if he had any ideas how they might market to his clientele, but unless one of them is a major art fan they would probably not have come up with that one on their own. Personally, I'm glad Trump fired Alex over Tana. Tana may have some weak points but all-in-all she has performed extremely well throughout the competition - this has been the only week where I've really seen her be totally ineffectual (okay, there was the week when Kendra was the project leader but I blame that more on Kendra than on Tana). And at the start of the competition I would have bet on her being one of the first to go. She has surprised me throughout. Kendra is too smug and her laugh gets on my nerves. I would love to see her get her comeuppance but I fear that will not happen. But I think Tana would be able to sell anything Trump gave her to sell. People seem to gravitate to her and they really just seem to turn themselves inside-out buying stuff from her.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 8:49 am
Eeyore, Mary Kay is a very good brand of makeup and skin care. Been around for many years. Yes, there is the mlm aspect of it, but it's the product that makes the mlm part successful. Our own little Spygirl is a salesperson.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:09 am
Kendra's outstanding reputation in the real estate market will land her the job. You heard it here first.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:09 am
Interesting. I hope I didn't offend. We just don't have Mary Kay up here. the only thing I could use as a frame of reference is Avon, and I cringe when I see someone giving out their Avon booklets. Are there Mary Kay stores? Do people wish they knew someone who sold Mary Kay?
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:14 am
What is "MLM?"
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:15 am
Do we know for certain that Kendra came up with the e-mail idea. For some reason I would guess that the artist, or his representative, probably tossed that idea into the mix. Now, Kendra and Craig may have asked the artist if he had any ideas how they might market to his clientele, but unless one of them is a major art fan they would probably not have come up with that one on their own. I have been reading all the responses to see if anyone else noticed this same thing. It seemed to me as I watched it that it was the artist's assistant who came up with the e-mail idea. Not that that makes up for Tana and Alex's apparent lack of marketing, but without that e-mail, I seriously doubt Kedra and Craig would have won.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:24 am
I just rewatched... it wasnt the artist's assistant who came up with the idea. But it is unclear exactly who did. Kendra related the request to the asst saying 'we would love for you to send out the message' or something like this.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:28 am
Lexie, MLM = multi-level marketing
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:31 am
I just watched it live and remember thinking at the time that the assistant had a great idea and maybe SHE should be project manager But I'm sure you are right that it was not clear. Could be that the assistant suggested it and what we saw was Kendra agreeing that it would be a great idea. If it were Kendra or Craig who came up with the idea, you'd think they would have shown that clip of tape. But that's just me 
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:42 am
I agree with you Nancy, you would think they would have shown Kendra or Craig coming up with the idea if they did. I suspect it may have been the artist or perhaps the product of a group brainstorm. It looked to me like K was asking the asst to get in touch with the galleries, etc.. like she was directing her. Her commentary also indicated to me that it wasnt the assistant's idea but it probably wasnt Kendra's own either. In hindsight it looks like a set-up to make it appear like Kendra's idea (IMHO) 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:43 am
Spygirl is a marykay rep. They have great skincare.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:44 am
oops didn't read Texannie's post before I posted LOL
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Nancypj
Member
08-17-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 9:51 am
In hindsight it looks like a set-up to make it appear like Kendra's idea (IMHO) You're probably right, Buggles!}
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:00 am
Just checked out the t-shirts on yahoo. Interestingly enough, the LOSING shirt is sold out. I like the heart design better myself but I suppose not a lot of guys would want to wear it 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 10:55 am
LOL when Tana said 'I'm the master studder' there is a joke in there somewhere! She talks to everyone like they are in 2nd grade. I think MB told DT to make sure a girl won this year, I think some of the other girls were better than these two.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:13 am
another Tanaism...'for the first time Tana doesn't have her happy smile on' GOD, I hate when ppl talk in the first person! I don;t understand dog fighting...were they trying to crash each other's planes??
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:38 am
I didn't understand Tana changing the artist's work to begin with. Once she added her own special touch, it really can't be considered the artist's work, can it? I don't see how Tana could have promoted the shirts as "art" by a certain artist if the designed had been enhanced or altered by someone other than the artist. Maybe I'm missing something. I think Kendra is doing very well in spite of Craig's blatant attempts to undermine her. One thing comes to mind is when he specifically told her that once the price of the shirts were set, it shouldn't be changed. Then Craig turns around and starts discounting the shirts. Its almost like he WANTED to get Kendra in the boardroom, and since she was the PM, he could get her fired. Craig keeps telling Kendra that she is the problem, but when Kendra wants to talk out their differences, Craig turns belligerent and refuses to discuss what he feels the problem is. I think Kendra's ability to continually win as PM in spite of Craig's unwillingness to get along says a lot about her. If Craig is bringing anything to the table on these tasks, it must be edited out because I don't see it. If Kendra wins this, she will have definitely earned the job (as well as combat pay) in my book.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 11:44 am
I also think that Kendra's idea to market to the artists was great. I think she would do very well working for DT in the marketing area. Tana lost some points with me last night. If she was unable to locate the Bedazzler, then she certainly did not need to use their rhinestones/beads. There are so many places in Manhattan to get that stuff. Going to SI was utterly ridiculous and a big waste of time. I have tried Mary Kay lipstick and have to say it is the only lipstick that has ever burned my lips (and that includes the 99 cent ones!) Yeah, and why is Craig still there?
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