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Puzzled
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08-27-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 8:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Chris did almost nothing. If Trump likes employees who do nothing, can I puh-leese get a job from him?

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 8:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was ridiculous. You could totally tell that Carolyn saw what was really going on when she made a point of asking Alex what he did on this task. It disgusted me when Trump assumed he was a great worker who was just brought low by Net Worth. It doesn't occur to him that the guy might be a mediocre worker who was exposed when the spotlight fell on him. This is two weeks in a row that he has come across as a slacker.

Angie did choke on that presentation, but in my opinion her biggest mistake was pointing the finger at Chris instead of at Alex for not taking on more responsibilities, especially after she clearly stated in the beginning that she wanted to focus on the presentation.

I still think Trump had resented Angie ever since the week when he had to let Erin go instead of her, and I also think he still holds a prejudice against those who don't have degrees. His unwillingness to even consider any culpability on the PM's part was unbelievable. It was like "Alex, you lost. Since it couldn't possibly be your fault, which one of these two uneducated people should I fire?" He'd better not pull this same nonsense with Tana.

On a different subject, are people really that gung ho for cheeseburger pizza? It sounds kinda icky to me. If I wanted a cheeseburger I wouldn't be sending out for pizza.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 8:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
DH and I had the same "UCK" response to "cheeseburger pizza."

I had completely forgotten by the boardroom that ALEX was project manner, not Angie! She did sooooo much more than he did -- couldn't see that he or Chris were productive, helpful or competent on any level. Shouldn't the PM be the one doing the "last minute check" before leaving for the presentation? Shoot - -shoudln't the PM know WHAT TIME IT IS!!!????!!!

DT blew it on this one big time. Chris or Alex should be gone, not Angie. I dind't particularly care about her, but she got shafted tonight.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
IMHO Chris should have been fired. He did nothing but buy those things and then wait to find the credit card after he lost it. I don't know how he manages to slip through every week. I don't think his time is long though. Angie did do all of the work and I'm pretty sure Carolyn even mentioned that when they were first discussing the task. Had she not done all she had done, they would have had very little to show. No wonder she was stressed. Trump blew on this one bigtime. But that's Trump. I often think he just wants to sound "cool." Eh.

Cathie
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08-16-2000

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 9:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I may have missed a few minutes but didn't Chris say he lost "one of" the credit cards, and that it was like losing $5,000? I thought each team only got one credit card with a $5,000 value. He spent almost $4,000 at Best Buy so wouldn't the loss be more like $1,000? I know either way it was still important to get it back but I was confused by his wording...

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROTF.. these comments are hysterical!!! Right on the mark

Its obvious that DT was trying to 'preserve' Alex as much as possible for the F2. Very sad. I think he was planning to hire Alex over Tana and was all pissy cause 'the losers' ruined it for him (i.e. 'turned Alex into a loser'... rotf )

The was the most unfair I can ever recall DT being in the boardroom. Usually I think he is quite fair. But this was awful....

The retailer execs said they lost the task due in part to LESS CREATIVE IDEAS. Hmm, who on the team was short on creative ideas?? And partly due to presentation. Hmm, Angie was flustered cause they were late, because ALEX lost track sucking up to the Trump execs. He also did some presenting it looked like and was very STIFF.

When Angie was flailing, maybe Alex should have stepped in & taken over since he was da boss?? It wasnt rocket science...

Oh yeah--nothing is Alex's fault he got turned into a loser

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 10:57 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The thing is---if you have ten things to do and the other two people have two things to do and the task fails, by percentages alone Angie was going to look like the bigger failure but it doesn't mean it was right that she had so much more to do. The more she was responsible for, the more she was set up to fail.

I dont know if this makes sense but I know what I mean...lol

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Thursday, April 07, 2005 - 11:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
EXACTLY Fab -- DH and I both thought the same thing!

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 12:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If I recall correctly, Angie checked herself out of a few discussions as she wanted to concentrate on the presentation.

I didnt get the impression she did most of the work throughout the task. My problem wasnt with Chris misplacing the card, it was with Angie getting rattled. She had the whole cab ride to think about how she was going to organize the models. Yes, ONE jacket was missing but that shouldnt have knocked her off her feet in shock.

I also was surprised she blurted out IPOD instead of letting Alex take the question when the Execs asked about most common technology.



Brotherman
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08-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 2:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The only way a woman will be The Apprentice is if Martha Stewart takes over the show. Oh, wait...

Rossbo
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07-06-2004

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 6:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
RE: The cheeseburger pizza

Got this from http://www.realityblurred.com:

Trump's latest Apprentice voice-over praises last week's sponsor Domino's Pizza.
During last night's episode of The Apprentice 3, there was a curious moment during which Donald Trump, in a very poorly constructed voice-over, kissed Domino's Pizza's ass. He said:


"And speaking of last week's task, here's something you didn't know. Both teams created meatball pizza. But if you'd done your market research like Domino's did, you would have discovered that customers don't want meatball pizza. What they want is cheeseburger pizza. The lesson: Always pay attention to your customer."

As he spoke, we never saw his face, just reaction shots from the candidates, suggesting that this was added in at the last minute. That makes sense, since Domino's Pizza was humiliated when competitor Papa John's ran ads last week that pitched the type of pizza the candidates sold (and Trump praised), while Domino's used their ad time to sell a different pizza. As I argue in this MSNBC essay, this seems to be more evidence that sponsorship of The Apprentice doesn't always pay -- or perhaps it does, with Donald Trump coming to the rescue.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 6:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Exactly like what CurlyQ said!! Should have been Alex or Chris gone. Yes, Angie did choke during her presentation but there was no research done on what technology is most popular. Doesn't take a scientist to know cell phones are the most popular!

Sassynegal
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01-21-2005

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Wow, I wasn't a Tana fan until tonight. That girl has got it going. She took charge and her team respected her at the end -if there is a girl who could win it - she has my vote!!

Myself I wasn't sad to see Angela go I haven't liked how she has acted in the past towards her team in stressful times. Don't know that she did the worst on the task as losing the CC was huge - but if the presentation would have went over well they CC wouldn't have been an issue.

My prediction Next week Alex and Chris self-destruct taking with them whoever they get to steal from the other team!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 6:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree that DT made his biggest mistake. Angie really rocked (and I only recently started liking her.) Chris seemed pretty much worthless to me and Alex, what did he actually do??? Seems to me DT is setting the F2 table and he already put Alex's placecard down.

Jen
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07-27-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Maybe had someone else done something, Angie wouldn't have been so frazzled. If she had Chris there for the 3 hours she was gone, and maybe if Alex had checked on the models and had a clear plan.

That sucked. Angie did not deserve that last night. She worked the hardest. I think she couldn't defend herself b/c she was flabbergasted!

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Don't get me wrong Angie wasn't my favourite but the way things played out I still think Alex or Chris should have been out and not her.

I agree with what Julieboo said about Tana and I hope she makes it to the final 2. She's really good at managing people even if they are somewhat incompetent. I mean the whole fiasco with the getting the logo paint screen put on the shirts was a mess. I know, I know...it wasn't their fault but as soon as one shirt came out badly they should have left. IMO

Scout
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01-20-2005

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Too bad Angie didn't save the piece of paper showing the responsiblities and what each person brought to the task:

Chris: find lost credit card, bring supper
Alex: belt
Angie: design the clothes, the logo, prepare the presentation, presentation, hiring and organizing the models, keeping track of the time, getting everyone there, dealing with children on her team

What was it Alex did again? And then to top it off, Angie had to sit there and listen to Trump calling her a "loser". I felt so sorry for her in that presentation. It's like those dreams where you have to take a test - first you can't find the classroom, then you can't find your supplies, and then you find you can't answer a single question.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ya, I totally agree Scout! I think Carolyn was on top of that list because she grilled Alex about how much Angie had to do verses the rest.

I said to my boyfriend last night that Donald would get rid of Angie. He hasn't liked her in the past 2 episodes. I have no idea why, but I definitely got the vibe he didn't like her. Maybe he didn't like her streaks?? LOL

Scout
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01-20-2005

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think smart women intimidate Trump. He wants to look politically correct and has Carolyn sitting right beside him, but overall I don't think he has the same respect for women as men.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought both Angie and Chris should have gone last night and I agree that Alex is a slacker...I think he has been covered up by competent people on the other team.

My personal favorite pizza is barbeque from Cici's.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think there is a lot we haven't seen in the interaction between Angie (and other contestants too) and Trump. There could have been an incident, or interaction, between the two where Trump got a bad impression of her.

I have realized that when Trump doesn't like you, it really doesn't matter how well you excel. I think somehow Angie got on Trump's bad side...and we just were not privy to it.

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the reason meatball pizza didn't go over very well is because maybe it's too hard to eat on the go? The meatballs rolling off the pizza. The hamburger pizza would be practically the same as the meatball pizza but easier to eat plus the added cheese. Just a thought...I wouldn't like either myself.

Ok, how come nobody is talking about those incompetent people at the place where they put the decal on the clothing and ruined the clothes?? Also was it just me or did it seem like Craig and Shaggy-D-A guy didn't seem to enthused about having to go and put the decal (logo) on the shirts? They just really didn't seem into the project in my opinion.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 7:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Miz, I can't talk about it yet as I haven't had the time to watch my tape. *sighs*

Mizinvanccouver
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02-22-2003

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kep-Well hurry up and watch it already!!! LOL

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Friday, April 08, 2005 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Trump seems to work the way many business people work. Make a decision and then develop the supporting evidence to support the decision as opposed to looking at the evidence and then making the decision.

Trump has decided that Alex is a good candidate. Therefore he has to make the evidence fit his decision. On practically every other challenge, where the presenter has failed, he has gone after the PM for not doing the presentation. Whenever a crucial mistake was made (forgetting the jacket) or there were timing problems (late or incomplete tasks) he has gone after the PM. But he couldn’t do this with Alex.

Now this may sound like a bad way to run a business, but in feeble defence of Trump, sometimes it’s best to go with an overall impression and make the evidence fit. But that’s where my defence of Trump ends.

Since he had already decided that he couldn’t fire Alex, he fired Angie. But not only did he fire her – he did it in an extremely nasty way, calling her a “choker” and a “loser”. Very ugly. I have no idea why Chris is still there as well.

I agree that Tana is doing a great job, especially the way she managed and kept things together and positive.