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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:02 pm
So, Craig is 11 years older than Kendra. 11 years is what constitutes years and years of experience that makes him so much more superior? Hmmm...I'm not so sure the corporate world cares much about 11 years experience. Heck, some places might think you're already too old to get with today's times. I felt like they were setting it up to be a Craig/Kendra F2. Just think how that could be set up! The "older guy" who wants to prove how superior he is to the inexperienced young girl VS the "young upstart" who fiercely and almost desperately wants to prove she has just as much to offer as the big boys on the block. That dogfight was just a preview to the F2 IMHO. The disparaging remarks against Tana in the Boardroom was just a way to set it up to eliminate her next time and set it up for the two who don't get along to get a full fledged chance to go at each other's throats officially. JMHO of course! 
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:21 pm
Who... I would love it if Kendra would go up against Craig. Then the truth would finally come out in the boardroom. Tana and Kendra are overall more closely matched, although in different skill areas. I think Kendra would have a much better chance at winning against Craig.... Tana would also have a much better chance at winning then Craig... I hope Craig doesn't get the boot next week!!
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Karuuna
Member
08-31-2000
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:32 pm
Okay, is it just me that finds Kendra rather petulant and pouty? She still gets the work done, but honestly, she could try to be a little more adult with Craig. yeah, he's condescending, but she does act like a little kid when he criticizes her. She may be bright and creative, but to me, she lacks the professionalism to survive in a DT world. Frankly, I can't imagine any of these three making it in DT's world. Make me want to apply for the next Apprentice. 
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:39 pm
Karuuna, I TOTALLY agree with your assessment of Kendra. She has always struck me as a small child having a pout tantrum. She does have some talent and creative skills, however, I have yet to see her actually LEAD a team. She can get the job done - HERSELF - but does not seem to be able to guide a team. I wonder how she would handle the least little bit of criticism from any DT superior. I'm sure DT won't put up with pouty women.
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Whoami
Member
08-03-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 12:42 pm
I agree, Kendra is pouty. Auntimike, perfect assesment. She is a brilliant performer when she does the work herself. But leading/guiding/being a team member really is a whole 'nother story. And....I think you'd be an awesome Apprentice Kar!
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:17 pm
I find the inability of almost all of these people to work as a team and take any sort of direction from their PM simply appalling. After all they are going to have to take direction from Trump or one of his associates eventually. I've got to say again that Tana adding those studs was horrible - what an insult to the artist!!! It made me cringe. His work wasn't interesting enough so she had to improve it?!?!? I wish that Kendra would stop the pouting, but she certainly seems to be the class of the field. At this point it looks like a Kendra and Craig final. Both are relatively solid individual contributors (though IMO Kendra is clearly superior to Craig). What will be interesting is if they have to draft the eliminated contestants to help them. That is where I think that Alex would have had a clear advantage in that at least his buddies would have tried to help him out (though how good that would have been is questionable). I’m not sure how much support either of these two will receive.
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Denecee
Member
09-05-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:30 pm
My take: I wonder how Kendra knew the email addy's of 3000 fans of the artist. I wonder also if the artist himself did not mention something about it and that the editing ofcourse did not show that. I loved the fact that Kendra beat Craig in the dog fight since she lost in the cat fight. Come on, say something, don't just stand there looking at a guy who is insulting you. Craig comes across like he is better than Kendra. She mentioned she liked the star better than the heart then asked him what he thought. Ofcourse he liked the oppisite and then later made it look like she just went with the star to oppose him! She doesn't stand up for herself IMO. Alex, good riddance. I might be wrong but I thought the rhinestones was initially his idea and Tana ran with it. Granted, she ran way too far but in the end I don't see how that trip hurt them. Alex, was talking while she was on the phone in the taxi, saying what can we do for marketing. The guy didn't have an idea in his head yet he wants to blame Tana for that? Tana is my fav to win this thing, surprise,lol. I thought she handled herself wonderfully when Trump thought she didn't have the fire in her. She is a nice person but did not even flinch when DT was coming down on her. She knows when to keep her mouth shut and she doesn't dump on the others. Just my humble view.
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 1:51 pm
I agree with many of you that Kendra should be handling herself more professionally with Craig's venom but I also agree with Kep that she has done an admirable job of hanging tough (if that makes sense) Karuuna, I have had that same though of applying too, LOL It does seem strange that out of a million applicants Trump comes up with Kendra. Although really she has some very outstanding qualities and ultimately I bet she would handle herself well with the Trump execs. Dealing with problematic contractors seems more questionable IMO. But I'm sure that DT finds her fire & toughness to be very desirable assets. I wouldn't be surprised if he feels that with some guidance and molding she has some real potential. Carolyn Kep seems like she could have been a little pouty, lol 
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:20 pm
On the Yahoo Apprentice site, I just rewatched the clip where Kendra discusses the marketing with Romero's assistant(Clip is called "Magna Relies on Romero" for those who want to watch it). What you see is Kendra telling the assistant that they'd love for her to contact the gallery where Romero's work is featured...the assistant says there are multiple galleries and agrees to send the email, which Kendra VOs will go out to 3,000 of Romero's collectors. To me it definitely looks like the concept of reaching his fan base was Kendra's. The assistant was the one who knew who to contacts, but she was just following Kendra's instruction. There's a "Craig Fouls Up" scene with the extras that looks like the prelude to the Craig/Kendra time-management discussion that we saw. It shows a little bit of what Craig did on the task. Lots of interesting tidbits in the other clips as well. Great, I sound like an advertisement for Yahoo! Well, while I'm giving product plugs, I LOVE the Mary Kay Satin Hands kit. Makes my hands feel so soft and silky smooth.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 4:43 pm
OMG! satin hands in incredible!!
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Ketchuplover
Member
08-30-2000
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:36 pm
What was meant by "shoeshine" in Sunshine's post? Satin hands...ooh la la 
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:40 pm
Craig has a shoeshine business.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 3:36 am
Karuuna, I agree. Kendra is bright but lacks the ability to lead. She needs communication 101.
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:53 am
I shuddered when they had two different artists, because one "might" come with so much more than the other, as far as ways to market. We don't know this from the show. However, in this task (and this has happened in the past) it was use of the internet that was a major factor. Kendra and Craig benefitted from being able to cheaply/quickly contact the fan base for their artist. It seemed like the actual sales had to take place in person, so they were limited to fans who would show up on the day, but, being in NYC, this was possible. Not only did Tana and Alex not make use of a fan base and internet as a way of reaching customers (and we don't know that it was available, but I'd have to say, probably that artist also has a mailing list), but when I watched Tana on the phone, and then she said she called every craft store in Manhattan, I was wanting to reach into the television! WHY wasn't she online and googling for "bedazzler"? I'd bet she could find them in seconds, in Manhattan!! Even if there wasn't a single place with one in stock, she could have reached people through eBay, or freecycle or craigslist, whatever. And perhaps this isn't allowed, but otherwise, she could have simply called home and had HER bedazzler and some supplies overnighted to her in Manhattan! Pricing was interesting and I think George was impressed that Tana and Alex went the bold step to price higher and to stick to their price. On the other team, Kendra's instincts were terrible! If Craig hadn't argued for a higher price, even WITH the wonderful email marketing, they might have lost. Craig's giving of a discount (and this has happened before) is a terrible idea in the context of this sort of task where the idea is to stay in the here and now and take the largest amount of money in, NOW. For a small business, it would be a good idea to create long term customer loyalty and maintain those relationships. Not sure how that would fit into the Trump organization.. I get the idea that Trump isn't a discounter. And even worse, he was offering a discount to the woman who was already eagerly thrusting the full price toward him!! BAD instinct! For that sort of buyer, if you had plenty of product, you might give a discount if she ADDED TO her purchase, but even then, for this task, with these goals, probably not. Kendra was smart to call Craig on the discounting and put a quick stop to his mistake. I was dying for them to take the camera back into the board room to hear Trump explain his switch from Alex to Tana to George and Carolyn. Before they were called back in, it was Trump who prompted Carolyn to support his planned dumping of Tana, but then Tana came up with the goods, being able to defend herself and her past record, and being prepared to quantify the difference between her record and Alex's.. this warmed the cockles of Trump's heart and then Alex fumbled, big time!! I agree with Trump that Alex should have had his own record seared in memory. Of the four that started the night, for me, Tana is the only one bring actual enthusiasm to the TASK at hand. That enthusiasm can be harnessed and refined. A good assistent, one she can trust to BE on her team, would be there to support and channel, so if Tana wanted a bedazzler, the asst could make that happpen. Alex went on record in the cab about marketing, but why wasn't he scribbling on a pad while Tana was on the phone, so that when there was time, he would have something to present? I think it was clear that instead of producing ideas, he was tallying up negatives for use against Tana in the board room. Craig and Kendra started fighting each other instead of engaging the task. They won despite themselves. Actually the email list won. Kendra would have vastly underpriced the product and Craig would have discounted too much. And each of them also spend energy on toting up what was wrong with the teamate.. Craig wanted her to be leader so she could take more blame, but then petulantly whined that she never liked his ideas. I think Kendra will probably win and she already looks the part. I think Tana should win. I'd want that enthusiasm and they can always send her for a makeover if they can't handle that eye makeup
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Seamonkey
Member
09-07-2000
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 7:56 am
See, in a shoeshine business, you thrive on repeat customers, you want the customer to like you, so giving discounts would be a great marketing tool.. but that doesn't translate to these Apprentice tasks.
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Jimmer
Member
08-30-2000
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:09 am
Also, now that you mention it, why on earth do they seem to always send at least two people to do a simple task? Why did both Alex and Tana go all that way together to buy those beads when one of them could have been doing something else that could have been far more useful (like marketing???).
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:23 am
I agree Jimmer. And why doesn't anyone ever call the local radio stations to promote their products? I have wondered if they are allowed to say that their products are part of the Apprentice show. If they could, that would bring in a lot of customers.
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Puzzled
Member
08-27-2001
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 8:27 am
Thanks for the link cdbga! Alex's exit speech was something else. I hope he isn't going to start a business designing desks. 
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Buggles
Member
09-07-2002
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 9:40 am
LOL Puzzled.. I was thinking that too 
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 10:16 am
I thought both designs looked alike. Very strange comming from 2 different designers.
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Babyjaxmom
Member
10-20-2002
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:31 pm
Me, too, Pamy. They both had the wing-thing goin' on. Though I'm not a big Alex fan, I did think he showed class in his Cab of Shame interview. At least he appreciated the opportuntity and admitted to having learned something, rather than blaming everyone else for his demise. I'd much rather see people go out that way!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:33 pm
I think he said those things hoping DT would give him some kind of job.
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Cdbga
Member
10-04-2004
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:37 pm
I missed the task assignment, so I wondered about the similar styles. Maybe they just didn't show the part where Trumpy said he likes his T-shirts with winged hearts or stars (kind of like the meatball pizzas). 
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 12:59 pm
Did anyone else catch Tana freaking out as they left the boardroom (for the FIRST TIME) whispering something like "oh on! they didn't like my beads!" I laughed out loud when I heard that! I rewound and listened again! LOL Seamonkey - EXCELLENT POST
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 1:02 pm
I heard it!!!LOL She is so immature!
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