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Carlito
Member
03-26-2004
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 9:36 pm
Great Job Beachcomber and Luvmykitties.Thank you so much.As Carson Daly says,this was some goood TV and finally Ivana bids farewell! After all she said and did to backstab and undermine people,she did show a more human side tonite when she and Kevin were alone in the suite. I have to admit she was one of the more creative and harder working apprentices.Lets hope she learned about management and leadership from this exercise.Its too bad that she had this "thing" about Jen M she would not let go of and i loved her risk taking and dropping trou.Granted it was not very professional and would not be acceptable behavior to the client.Trump had no choice but to fire her. Next week should be really good.Any bets as to who will be left standing? I think Jen M will be 1 of 2.
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Sugar
Member
08-15-2000
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:14 pm
I think I am afraid of Carolyn. And I am quite secure in the knowledge I would never drop my skirt for $20.00. Should I ever be so insane, there would have too be several more zero's before the decimal point.
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Kappy
Member
06-29-2002
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:37 pm
OMG ~ First Ivan states that the other two women look like strippers and then proceeds to drop her skirt for a lousy $20? How sad! I found a few moments funny tonight such as Sandy eating a bar in the M&M van and then saying "Candy for the eye candy" to which the van driver replied "And I'll be the Candy Man!" which was met with complete dead silence from the 2 women. Poor guy - the smile went off his face real fast. Then you have Sandy discussing how she can't get close to Jen because "How can anyone get close to her . . . she's plastic!". I loved it! And to think this was coming from her Barbie twin.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:14 pm
After watching again - first I can't get over how nuts Ivana started acting. Talk about "crazy". I could never work for someone like that. She was always pushing "sex appeal". And she's ALWAYS pointing the finger and naming someone - even when it doesn't matter! To Beachcombers question - the guy in the dark blue jacket with the flag patch - I think he's someone that works at the NYSE. I worked in that area prior to 9/11, and I remember the guys walking around or standing outside having a smoke, in smock-type jackets. They were right down the block from the NYSE. As a matter of fact, they were right down the block from 40 Wall Street - which has TRUMPs name prominently on the front. I'm surprised they didn't give a gratuitous shot of that!
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Annie
Member
11-10-2004
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:35 pm
Ivana has a real bully complex, deride everyone to make yourself look and feel better. How pathetic for her to step in while Jen and Sandy where selling the candy and say "buy mine for a dollar and I'll drop my skirt". Perhaps her daddy will buy her another Porsche to build her ego back up again. Hats off to Jen and Sandy for moving on from the previous boardroom!! THAT should impress any CEO, argue, get your points out, and then move on and work well together. I was impressed w/ Kevin for awhile, but got over it. To be honest none of the final four look like promising leaders in a business world.
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Watching2
Member
07-07-2001
| Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:56 pm
I was struck when the women showed up to meet Trump in the morning to find out their task and they were so casually dressed. What's up with that?!! Even if the women last time wore skirts too short, etc., I think they always showed up for their meetings dressed more business-like. I couldn't believe Jen and Sandy had on jeans and Ivana wasn't dressed that much better even though she didn't have on jeans. Something was definitely lacking there. That being said, I'm glad Ivana is gone. She really blew it this task and lost it the minute she dropped her skirt as far as I'm concerned. The only thing that would have saved her was if their team won and that didn't happen. She deserved to go.
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Karen
Member
09-07-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 12:19 am
Beachcomber, a belini is an alcoholic peach flavoured slush drink. They're very yummy, though I wish I could tell you exactly what's in them. Peach schnapps and vodka would be my guess.
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 12:29 am
Thank you for that explanation Karen because I didn't know what a belini was either. I was thinking of biscotti Belini sounds pretty good! Sounds like a frozen (slushy) Fuzzy Navel. Wow - and I got a triple! Thank you Costacat!! 
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Thiry18
Member
09-18-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 3:17 am
a bellini has champagne and peach puree
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Thiry18
Member
09-18-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 3:20 am
ok, well i think it does, but i could be wrong!!
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 3:50 am
Bellinis have different recipes. The one I know here in BC is white rum, peach schnapps, and champagne all slushed together, and then it is drizzled with sangria. That's guys for spoiling for me. I won't be able to do it next week either, as I have an exam during that time. I haven't watched the show yet, as I just got home from work, but I'm SOOOOO happy Ivana is gone. I was tired of the daddy's little spoiled girl routine.
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Newman
Member
09-25-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 6:47 am
I will miss Ivana. Liked her energy. Wasn't aware that her daddy bought her a porsche. Couldn't you say that about everyone in the final 4? Aren't they all part of the priviledged class? What's the big deal about Ivana dropping trou? The two blondes were dressed for sex appeal. Sex sells. They could sell their candy bars for $5 because they looked hot. Kevin could hardly give the candy away. Maybe he should have taken his shirt off and tried to find the gay stock brokers?? Without watching this episode, if you asked any Joe on the street who will sell more candy bars, two hot babes or 2 guys and an Asian babe, what do you think your answer would be? This isn't rocket surgery!
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Danas15146
Member
03-31-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 7:49 am
All I can say for next week is GO KEVIN!!!!
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Native_texan
Member
08-24-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 8:12 am
Watching, I was wondering about the casual dress last night myself. This season it seems they have been appropriately dressed for each task. I think they are being told beforehand how to dress.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 8:42 am
I agree with Native_Texas (and believe me, that doesn't happen that often...LOL!).
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Mssilhouette
Member
07-11-2001
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 10:05 am
Is it me or did this last episode seem rushed, they were already in the boardroom halfway into the episode. Anyway, I hope KEVIN wins but it seems like it's going to be a woman this time round. And I don't think any of the two women are qualified to run anything but their mouths and even then I'd need a few references first.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 10:27 am
Native and Watching...I also thought they were dressed very casually for the pre task meeting. I, too, wondered if they were told beforehand what to wear. I was surprised though that neither guy was clean shaven.
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Rslover
Member
11-19-2002
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 10:35 am
Sex does sell but Jenn and Sandy had the gimmick - not Ivana. She just looked tacky and so unprofessional when she dropped those pants. I'm glad she's gone. I think they are told to dress casually or whatever before the meeting. A bellini can be made with a sparkling wine like Proseco too.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 11:00 am
I think Ivana should have dropped the whole "But Jen sucks too" thing and emphasized how she had to go to the $20/butt shot stunt as a last resort when she found out the M&M twins were selling the candy at $5 a bar. She was trying to make up for Kevin's loss. Something like that. I think George at least would have bought it. I think Carolyn still wouldn't have budged, but maybe Donald would have... Cuz the bottom line is that they lost cuz the candy sold for way too cheap... and based on that fact, Kevin should have lost...
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Vsmart
Member
02-10-2003
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 11:24 am
I'm hoping that DT will give the winner a check for the $250,000 for winning a tv contest, but admit that none of them is really good enough for a job in his companies.
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Upstate
Member
01-16-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 11:42 am
am i the only one who thinks that jen and sandy weren't dressed overly sexual? i mean they wore denim skirts.......jen's was down to her knees and sandy's was shorter. but not as short as i've seen others. the red tops show "some" skin. but honestly not all that much. imo i think it was just because they dressed alike and ivana kept repeating how they looked. ivana should of been more worried about leading her own team and coming up with some good ideas. for this task there really was a big difference in how many bars 3 could make as compared to what just the 2 made. if the girls had lost i would thought it a major point. i'm surprised they didn't work out a percentage. when you have a team of 6 or so you can make up a one person disadvantage. but 3 to 2 is really a lot. as far as the teams showing up in casual dress. i noticed that too. i thought maybe they were told to come in casual dress for the task at hand. they usually are dressed well.
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Essence
Member
01-12-2002
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 12:01 pm
Who on Apex set the original price at $2/bar or 2 bars for $3? Was it Kevin or was it Ivana? If it were Kevin, then yes he should have been held responsible for the loss, but if it were Ivana, then she should. Even if Kevin had stuck to that pricing, they would have lost. So his dropping to $1 to try and sell the candy was not the deciding factor in them losing this competition. He was at least getting something for the candy. In the end, the price didn't matter. Ivana had no business dropping her skirt, and she was rightly fired for that.
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Auntiemike
Member
09-17-2001
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 1:52 pm
I saw one team have a gimmick and it was a success. They planned, worked hard and succeeded. Ivana's team did not seem to have a direction, gimmick, plan or anything. She did not even deal with Kevin when he chose to change the price. As PM she should have taken control. I think she showed a total lack of leadership and her "$20 stunt" was a last ditch - and very unprofessional - decision that cost her a chance. DT was right to fire her. She also did not have a ready response that would be well received by a prospective employer when questioned in the boardroom. Employers want to see people be accountable not blame others for their poor work. She had no right to bring Jen into the board room talk. She should have addressed DT with some accountability and maturity. I just read the "resumes' in the spoiler section. Wow! There are some impressive educations/experiences in Kevin, Jen and Kelly. Even Sandy, without the formal education, has done extremely well for herself. Can't wait to see who DT picks for his apprentice.
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Eeyoreslament
Member
07-20-2003
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 3:29 pm
OT - Rslover, champagne IS sparkling wine, it's just that it can only be called champagne if it was produced in that region of France. Most restaurants use "sparkling wine" as it is way cheaper. Heh, most restaurants use the cheapest of the cheap sparkling wines at that.
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Roxip
Member
01-29-2004
| Friday, December 03, 2004 - 3:38 pm
I thought that Jen and Sandy were dressed appropriately for the task at hand. They wanted to come across as attractive but they didn't go "over the top." The point was that they were alike, not that they were selling themselves.
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