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Buggles
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 12:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
True Fruit, but that's not what Trump bills it as. He always says he is looking to hire someone to 'run one of his companies.'

Though 'glorified salesperson' I hear is more the case.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 1:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes he does say that but never CEO. I was correcting the use the term CEO.

CEO is the top guy. Under CEO you have president and below that their can be many Vice presidents and on down the line.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 1:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
CEO = Chief Executive Officer... usually is higher than even the president of a company... But I've known companies that had CEO's without prez's....

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 1:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am not intimately familiar with the Trump Organization but since DT has said he has many different 'companies,' my impression was that it is a conglomerate:

http://www.wordreference.com/definition/conglomerate

I used to work as an attorney for a publishing company that was part of a global conglomerate. Each of the publishing companies worldwide had their own CEO; however, the name on our paychecks was the conglomerate name. I was assuming this might be akin to Trump organizational structure. But really the title is immaterial for the point I was trying to make, which was that DT is ostensibly looking for someone to 'run one of his companies.'

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ITA with Trump and the anger/drama bit. I've also noticed it when they show him with people he's doing business with and he's giving them a piece of his mind right before they show the teams working. I don't really enjoy watching him sound like a bully, even if it's for dramatic effect.

Jan
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 2:41 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Speaking about their future after winning...I see items about Bill Rancic here and there but never about the guy who won year 2...what was his name?? Anyone hear anything about him at all??

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 3:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Kelly I think but I can't remember his last name.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 6:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, hadn't they started the 3rd season competition before the final episode of the second season. So Kelly Perdue couldn't participate, as he hadn't even been awarded the title yet.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 7:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
huh?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 8:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
CEO's are generally officers of a company (and usually also sit on the Board). I would bet my current job that any winner of any Apprentice is NOT gonna be an officer of any of Trump's companies. Aside from the fact that the winner is, well, an *apprentice*, there is a fiduciary responsibility to properly and appropriately manage those companies. Hehehe...

Curlyq
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07-10-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 8:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That's true that when they had that live finale they'd already started taping this season's contest. I read in an article that the pizza episode was taped last November.

I don't remember Trump ever being much fun in the boardroom. I certainly don't remember him ever making well-thought out decisions on who to fire, at least not before this season. In past seasons the firings were much more arbitrary than this season, and I'd get so frustrated at his nonsensical rationalizations. I remember him even firing one woman because she didn't take enough offense when Omarosa made an insulting remark about her, rather than just firing Omarosa. He was more likely to fire someone over something petty in the boardroom than over a huge mistake made in the task.

I didn't agree with the Angie decision, but for the most part the firings this season have been way more logical than in the past. Most of those who left this season have really blown it on the tasks. Meanwhile I think Trump is just getting more comfortable in the role of the intimidator.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 - 9:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Agreed, Trump doesn't refer to the apprenticeship as a CEO position for a reason. The winner will not hold that title obviously (as I have noted).

And yes the new hire is called 'The Apprentice,' but Trump claims they will 'run one of his companies.' That is what CEOs do.

Because of the title ambiguity I put 'CEO' in quotes.

Obviously there's a discrepancy between what the job is billed as and what happens in practice

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 6:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well actually, I don't know of any CEO that actually "runs" a company. As head officer, its more of a "overseer" job. They are concerned with bottom lines more than the operations, and their main task is to look at the long term picture for a company, its future, etc.

The actual day to day running of a company is handled by lowerlevel executives and the actual work force. Maybe that's why Trump specifically states the apprentice will be "running" one of the companies...which in business terms means doing all the work!!!

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 12:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I like that Kep

better than this: http://www.investorwords.com/799/CEO.html

so I guess that means DT doesn't run the Trump organization

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Wednesday, April 13, 2005 - 2:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The person who "runs" the company I work for is whomever gets in first and makes the coffee. NOTHING gets done till the coffee is done!!!