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Episode 11/25/04 (Spoiler!!)

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Danas15146
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03-31-2004

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 1:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Duh -- I didn't realize the thing with Raj was a commericial. It was funny though.

I have had a tough time remembering any of their names this year. One Stacey is enough! Kept confusing Raj and Andy. When I can't remember Kevin's name - I say the guy who sweats alot.

Once Bradford left - I did't care who won (as long as it is not Jen)

Luvmyjrt
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09-18-2003

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 1:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I loved the Raj taxi cab thing too....toooooo funny!

Auntiemike
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09-17-2001

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 2:39 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to say, with all the discussions on this board recently, we should ALL remember the name of that guy.....it's KEVIN. Now we can refer to him by name as we do with most of the others.

I think Andy hadn't had real life experience yet; just a good education. Give him a few years and he will do well. He has a creative mind and is learning how to work with all these different personalities. Once he gets a few work years under his belt he could approach Donald again and might even get hired. I think DT liked him.


Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 2:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw Andy on Fox & Friends this weekend. He said while we watched about 5 minutes of the catfight between the girls, it actually went on for almost 30 minutes. Andy said at the point it turned into a catfight, he couldn't get a word in edgewise and just sat there for almost 30 minutes between the two of them - completely helpless - LOL!!! He said Caroline and George were amused by it watching these women claw at each other to avoid getting fired. He said The Donald finally broke up the catfight by pounding on the table to get them to stop!!! LOL



Roxip
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01-29-2004

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 3:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Two Stacies and two Jennifers in the same season...out of that many contestants couldn't they find some qualified ones with different names (maybe Omarosa scared them out of unusual names...LOL).

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Roxip. It took me until it was almost over to realize it was a commercial with Andy and Raj and while I remember what they said, I didn't remember it was a Pepsi Commercial!! Oooops!!! Not quite the effect I think they were hoping for??!!!

I shall never forget Kevin's name after this! LOL I've had a problem remember most of their names this season, especially the women with the light hair. :-) I like Kevin and Kelly. I'd like to see them as final two since I'm not that impressed with any of the women, unfortunately.

Laura11103
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08-13-2002

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 3:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I thought the funniest part of the show was Andy drinking all that Pepsi! lmao... it is good stuff...

I was hoping Andy would last but looks like The Donald's got lots of respect for feisty-ness and Sandy sure had that, although with that awful presentation I thought she deserved to go, plus she's looks to much like Jen, lol, j/k...

Good show, I'm enjoying it as much as last season but don't think they'll get as good an apprentice as Bill or Kwame would've been... I'm rooting for Kevin, just love his enthusiasm...

Danas15146
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03-31-2004

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I was hoping DT would fire Jen & Sandy last week -- they were on my nerves with that back and forth bickering! Between that and Andy ODing on the Pepsi -- it was too much like watching my kids hit the caffine and argue - I don't like my reality TV that real!

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Monday, November 29, 2004 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just a little note... if you don't know the name of the contestant, you can go look it up on NBC's Web site or even on Yahoo!'s site.

Sunshyne4u
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06-17-2003

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 12:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
aah Costa......that's too much work. LOL



Kritofer
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10-26-2004

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 1:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Sandy was doing all the complaining and Jennifer was countering because she (ineptly) let the cat-out-of-the-bag that Andy approached her pre-boardroom. Before this I was more impressed with Jennifer as THE MOST level-headed woman on this show. I attribute that to her staying this long - without showing any real business skills or innovative ideas. Every other woman whose ever been fired has shot themselves in the foot (even Pamela who I thought was the strongest).

But, to me, Jennifer is still the smartest - the calmest demeanor I've ever seen from a woman.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Tuesday, November 30, 2004 - 2:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't think Jen does anything that is not calculated...I think she wanted to show Elizabeth losing her cool.

Boberg
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10-04-2002

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Just a reminder...the show is on tonight..Wednesday

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
First of all, I have to say since I didn't get a chance to last week, I am so glad Maria is finally gone!!!!!!

Now, back to the present. I believe Jennifer is very calculating, but there is no doubt that Trump has seen every calculated move she has made, especially after the remark by him last week about taking credit for Ivana's idea on the jeans. I can't recall that she has really done nothing large enough and/or bad enough to consider. Her ego is as big, if not bigger than Maria's, just not so obvious. And her ego is making her believe that everyone else is blind, even Donald, Carolyn and George.


Bob2112
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06-12-2002

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Tonights show is a recap show and the regular elimination show is still on Thursday.

Watching2
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07-07-2001

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 3:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm glad it's just a recap show since I was trying to decide what to do with 3 shows on at the same time I wanted to watch and only one VCR!

Producerchic
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06-29-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 5:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
no kidding! I already have "Lost" and "America's Next Top Model" -- and unfortunately I am at work, so I can't watch any of the others!

I figured it was a recap episode when I saw the promos during "The Biggest Loser" saying special episode Wednesday, then the final five on Thursday...

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Wednesday, December 01, 2004 - 10:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I watched the recap and there was new footage, but don't fret if you didn't watch because if it were compelling and important footage, it would have already been shown with the corresponding episode. I still don't think Donald should have fired Bradford, Pamela, and the blond guy...not yet anyway. I would have liked to have seen them go a little further.

Newman
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09-25-2004

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The blond guy? Don't you have a name for us, Westy ;)?

Did you mean Wes, Westy?

I totally agree with you about Bradford. His reasoning for firing him in week one was weak, and his two <RA> George and Carolyn just bobbed their heads up and down in agreement.

Same with the icy Pamela. Just saw parts of the recap show last night. However, in my mind Pamela was one of the better leaders, especially amongst the women candidates.

The rules of the show need to be tweaked. Not sure how. If he's looking for a LEADER as the next apprentice, why does he fire project managers? (OK, he fires them because he has to fire somebody, and the losing PM is usually an easy target, but...)

Pamela pointed out that when she was fired it was because her team lost by a lousy $10. She has a point.

I don't see Ivana as a leader. Maybe it's just that she hasn't been the PM very often (ever???). I can't recall. I like Ivana as a team player though, but that's not what Trump is looking for, is it?


Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 6:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also think Pamela and Bradford should have made it to the final 4...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 8:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Bradford was fired because he got too cocky. He was in a safe position and had nothing to gain by stepping out of that box. I'm sure that if he had carefully thought about for just a few minutes, he would not have done it. He was my very favorite from the very start and I wish he could have made it through to the end.

Trump put Pamela in charge and she went in with guns blazing. That can sometimes work in the real world of business, but not a smart move in this game. She did not respect or consider the skills of the women on her team and as much as I disliked Maria, you never ever humiliate someone in front of other people as Pamela did to her during the rehearsal. In short, her people skills were very poor.


Roxip
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01-29-2004

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 9:47 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ivana was project leader (I think) in the week where Bradford was fired. I think Ivana expected to be fired (and probably should have been) - remember the scenes with her head in her hands saying "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD" in regard to his firing because she knew she had escaped a huge bullet? (And I could be wrong but that's how I remember it.)

I thought Pamela was fired for the right reasons...she was arrogant and overconfident and, if you remember, she was responsible for fixing a price that was too high on the product. That was, in my opinion, the biggest mistake of that week and led to her team losing. If they had lowered the price to the price recommended by the QVC people they would have sold a lot more units and made more money than the men. As it was they sold a whole bunch of units but because the price was way too high (at least a lot more than I would have paid) it didn't sell as well as it should have.

Yes, Donald is looking for leaders...and these people have to prove that they CAN lead. If they fail at the task for not motivating their team properly or for letting a team member run over them (Raj did that to John during the fashion show project and Maria did it to Wes) then they don't have the experience and maturity to be a leader.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 10:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think Trump fired Bradford to teach the other apprentice candidates and the viewers a lesson...that Bradford's mistake of passing up the exemption was just too costly and inexcusable. When the boss gives you a nice gift, you don't reject it. I think he has fired every person (that is gone) to teach a lesson. In each situation, a business executive would make the same decisions most likely, or at least Trump would if the same situations occurred in one of his organizations. He has to fire someone. I think in each case that he has fired the person most responsible for the failure of the task and/or the person who made the most mistakes.

Pamela should have been fired. Not only for the high pricing while she was PM, but for her very poor PR comments about the kid(s) in one of the early tasks.

It is amazing that Ivana is still there. She's been lucky, someone else has screwed up more than she has every task, or, she lucked out on being on the winning team. I think she is a hard worker, she puts in a lot of effort. However, Trump's apprentice, she is not. She is very mouthy and negative in a non productive way. Trump hates when something is said or done that isn't productive. He has even said things in the boardroom that show he doesn't like her.

I do not think Trump will even consider Ivana for the position of his apprentice. That leaves Kelly, Kevin, Jen, and Sandy. Laura11103 mentioned Trump won't end up with an apprentice having the same caliber as Bill or Kwame from last season. I think Kevin may be; however, IMO, Kevin made a big mistake when he wouldn't take responsibility for something ... it was during a board room and Trump had a few words for him about that. Other than being unsure about Kevin, I don't think many of these people seem to have close to what many of the apprentices from last season have. Bill, Kwame, Troy, Amy, and actually most of the others seem (to me) to be a much better match for Trump's apprentice than the candidates this season.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 11:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, like Happymom said, Ivana is out as a right hand man to Trump. She does doesn't have it.

Sandy we know will be fired, because she doesn't have a college education. Troy was AWESOME, and I thought he was better than Kwame last year, but they kept Kwame purely for his education. Trump himself said he can't have someone without an education. So what do they do? Recruit ANOTHER person without a college education!! What's the point!!

So that leaves Kevin, Jen, and Kelly. I really get the impression that Jen cannot overcome the negative feelings of Carolyn and Trump, no matter how well she does in future tasks.

All of this is moot though. Either or Ivana is going this week. Then the NEXT week is the interview episode. I'm not sure how the remaining contestants are in the "interview" situation, but I suspect it will be two from Jen, Kelly, and Kevin. I guess it will depend on how much Kevin sweats.

Westtexan
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07-16-2004

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 4:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Well, I still don't like that Bradford was fired. I understand the reasons many of you and Trump give for his firing, I just respectfully disagree that he was the best choice to send home. It was a reckless, bold, and a bit arrogant move on Bradford's part; but still a minor mistake in comparison to the actions of many of the others. I think it(the firing) was done mainly for shock purposes and good TV. He just seemed to be such a better candidate then some that are still there, and I would have like for him to have had more opportunities to shine. Sigh.

I didn't care for Pamela. I thought she was cold and rude (the way I sometime feel Trump and his cronies), but I also thought she proved herself as a powerful force. I think she was fired too soon. I agree that she lacked people skills and figured she would have been fired about midway through due to her arrogant ways, much like Raj (I kinda liked him, though). Again, like Bradford, I thought Pamela was prematurely fired when there were other, more deserving people to fire who hadn't shown near as much potential, at least in that stage of the game. (I, too, didn't like what she had to say about the kids in the first task. And, truthfully, I didn't see the episode where she was fired, just the recap last night, so I might have a completely different opinion had I seen that entire show.)

About Wes,the blond guy...(Thanks Newman for giving me his name LOL.) I don't feel as strongly about his firing as I do Bradford's, because at least Wes got to stay with the competition for a good while and have a longer experience. Anyway, he basically was fired because Maria ran all over him. Kwame had a similar problem with Omarosa and Kwame was in the final two. I think it is a little unfair to get on to them too much for the behavior of irrational people they can't fire. But what do I know about any of this. I wouldn't last long in that kind of competition. Pamela would have had me in tears the first day after making fun of my hair.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Thursday, December 02, 2004 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Anybody else watching? Gotta love the AMAZING TWINS :-)