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Roppiepie
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05-06-2004

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 10:19 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
What about the survivor pig thing was so awful? Hasn't any one been in a greased pig contest at their local State Fairs, or part of 4H-Club? They weren't slaughtering the pigs, they were just moving them from one point to another. What's the big deal?

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 10:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
probably nothing but to a city girl animal lover like me it looked mean....and those little piglets were screaming.....granted it was nothing compared to the YELPING the dogs were doing.

I dont think Survivor caused the pigs pain but I KNOW the dogs tonite were in pain.

I would have thougth Trump would have been on them for liablilty if for nothing else!!!!!

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 11:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Soooo glad to see Stacy and her huge nostrils get fired!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, October 21, 2004 - 11:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Pamy I was gonna post that about the nail clipping thing, too. How awful. People are actually trained for that shit and here we have someone with no training just chopping them away. I was actually hoping they'd have to go to the boardroom because they endangered the dogs.

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 12:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Another city animal lover here!

I was surprised the dog owners allowed these people to clip their dog's nails!
Dogs nails are hard to clip!

Kevin sounded like he knew how to do it, and Jen looked like she was doing it correctly - and in all honesty, the dog may have been yelping because it was scared and didn't like what was being done. I've heard dogs yelp like that just sitting in the waiting room of a vet's office.

I didn't notice any blood anywhere, (unless the camera didn't show it and it didn't get on anyone's clothes) so if there wasn't any blood, then they didn't actually cut the "quick" (nerve).

But I hate hearing ANY animal yelp/cry. It really bothers me.

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Although I think the pet photos were a good idea, I wonder if they would have made enough profit. I'd pay $5 for an impromptu polaroid photo - but no more than that. And isn't Polaroid film kind of pricey?
And especially in this day where so many people have phones that take pictures! Or at the very least, own a digital camera.

But they could have offered that in addition to whatever else they were doing to make a few extra dollars. (with NO costumes!)


Sunrvrose
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08-13-2001

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 12:54 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Ya-Hoo, so glad stacy is GONE! Now if they get rid of Ivana, everyone else is a toss-up to me. Pretty much like all of them.

Re the nail trimming, I too was shocked that they allowed it. My German Shepard is so sensitive about his nails(feet) that he has to be put under anesthesia to have his nails done. I also believe that the clippers must be sterilized between pets. Just a bad thing all around.

I also thought the pet pics was a good idea. I hadn't thought about all the different sizes thing, good point, wouldn't have worked. I also agree that some people would love a pic of them and their dog, but then again, it was only a polaroid, so ppl wouldn't have paid much.



Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 5:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't like the nail clipping thing either. I cringed every time a dog yelped.

But I honestly think people here are being way to hard on the group. If you want to draw and quarter anyone for the dogs' pain, you can't really look any further than the pet owners.

If I had a moment of weakness and agreed to allow them to cut my dog's nails, I would have ceased any and all clipping at my dog's first yelp. I would have said "Thanks but no thanks" and walked my limping puppy away. My vet has clipped my dogs nails and she has yelped. Made me want to snatch my dog off the table!!!!

The people SOLELY responsible for those dogs were the pet owners. You want to call PETA on anyone, track down the owners....

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 5:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I agree the owners should have not allowed it.
I would have never let them do it but I think those owners were so excited at the thought of being on tv!! Very sad!

That one dog looked like he was gonna bite that girl in the face, it was so sad how they muzzled and held him down for a few lousy bucks!!

I am glad they lost and even happier Stacey left.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I didn't like the nail clipping either. Poor pups. Jen said she made 2 dogs bleed. One was bad enough that the blood got on Raj...

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 6:17 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
If you noticed Pamy, the person holding the dog's face and keeping him from biting Kevin and Jen was the owner.

He was not only consenting to the nail clipping, he was restraining his dog so they could do it without getting bit.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 6:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Go Katie, I thought she was tough on Stacy! But I liked it!
She asked Stacy how it felt to be fired like that on TV and used words like "embarrassing, humiliating," and a few others... Then when Stacy went on about how she now has a website and how this experience opened up all sorts of opportunities like a book offer, talk show offers, etc, Katie asked if she thought that all that was ridiculous.

Xena
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10-14-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:00 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I can't beleive they clipped their toenails. ANIMAL CRUELTY is what you call that. I mean if the dog keeps yelping then that pretty much means your doing it wrong and to STOP!I would have told them to if it was my dog.

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:11 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
LOL Hukdon!!! (Huge nostrils!)

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
No, just because the dog yelped doesn't mean it is in pain. My little dog hates it when I clip her nails and she yelps away...but not because she's in pain but because she hates being restrained. I have clipped them several times and if done properly it doesn't hurt the dog (you only clip the very ends to "blunt" them. This is necessary when you dog doesn't get outside very often or else their nails become very sharp and lethal. I also clip my cat's nails too. Light nails are easier because you can easily see where the blood supply comes down to but if done carefully you can easily do it on dark nails too (my little dog has both...LOL). My big dog's nails don't seem to need it very much but the other one can be LETHAL! Dog's nails are like our's - there are no nerve endings in the ends. Good nail clippers are very easy to use but holding the dog...that's another story!

Xena
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10-14-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 7:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
The dog last night was being hurt, because it yelped only when she clipped, it was fine being restrained. You probably don't hurt your dog because you do it alot. I doubt that Jennifer(I think thats her name)knew anything about cutting a dogs nails.

Rosie
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11-12-2003

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Clipping the nails is a serious matter. Done incorrectly an infection may occur - let alone the actual pain of too much of the nail being clipped. Trump's staff should not have allowed the clipping and the owners were idiots to allow it.

I have witnessed some show dogs being groomed and the owners use a sanding/filing procedure rather than clipping because of the fear of infection.

Stacey is still convinced she is RIGHT as indicated on TV this morning. A talk show? Shades of someone else isn't this?

Vee
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02-23-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 8:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This all sounds awful...glad that I missed the show...also glad to hear that Stacy is gone!

Saphyre
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08-01-2001

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 8:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have to say with the nail clipping, even with the yelping (even just when the nail was clipped) is not an indication that the dogs were in pain, unless the quick was cut and the nail was actually bleeding. I use to groom dogs professionally and we had many that would come in and yelp when their nails were cut, even though the quick part was not cut, it was just that they didn't like getting nails done. It is also not unusual to have to restrain dogs to get their nails done as most dogs just don't like having their nails clipped. We use to show dogs as well and although most of ours were ok with nail clipping, having had it done so often, we still had a few that would yelp and cry the whole time, though they weren't hurt. I've never seen a case of a dog getting an infection from a nail clipping, though I guess it is possible if the nail was clipped way too short.

It really is important for dogs to get their nails cut though. I've seen some dogs that just come in for like once a year groomings and they've had nails that have curled back almost ready to dig in to the back of their legs. :-(

Jasper
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09-14-2000

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 9:35 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have a rottie who carries on like we are amputating his feet every time we do his nails, the moaning and groaning and growling, all while he sits there is almost comically if he wasn't being such a pain in the patoot.

I was glad to see Stacy go, she did not seem to contribute too much. I do like Ivana though, I'd rather see Sandy go before her.

I wish someone had said to Wes as he complained about Andy, then why did you keep him on your team?

It was the most I had seem Jen speak last night, and I gather she was getting a little tipsy with her spay and neutering comments.

I thought the comment to Kelly about exaggerating was a little uncalled for, maybe he just couldn't recall every dog he shampooed, doubt it was a deliberate exaggeration.

Saphyre - that is so sad and not a very responsibile dog owner to allow that to happen (about the nails)


Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I,too, was upset about the nail clipping. I do agree that the yelping doesn't mean they are in pain. My dog is a big cry baby and will yelp even if she has been startled. But, if the dog is yelping only the moment right after the clip, that would indicate pain to me. If they are bleeding, wouldn't that indicate that the quick had been cut? My first thought when I saw they were going to clip nails was that these are city dogs and probably get walked on sidewalks a lot. Wouldn't that keep their claws from becoming so sharp that they wouldn't need them clipped? I live in the suburbs. Our dog has never needed her nails clipped. She is 9. Our two old cats need theirs clipped regulary. (Like Saphyre mentioned with the dogs, our cats will have those claws growing into their paw pads if we don't clip them.)They didn't often need this when they were young and more active. I clip them but the vet usually does it also (they have check ups every 3 mos.) because I do not get them short enough. I am too afraid to cut the quick. She (vet) actually told me that they have cut the quick to get blood samples on cats before. While it hurts them to get the quick cut, it doesn't hurt them a lot. I have cut the quick a couple of times on the cats and I know it hurts, they yell and fight and normally they just lay on me relaxed for the clipping. Anyway, they (Apprentices) should not have been clipping the nails.

I liked Stacey's idea about the photos. Maybe it wasn't cost effective, I don't think Polaroid film is cheap either. As long as they could make some profit,though, why not. But Stacey's idea for costumes was a bad one. Also, she should have been wandering around trying to get photos, not just have been stationary.

Maria's shoes! What is wrong with her?! I'm glad Caroline mentioned something about Maria and her clothes/performance. (I cannot remember the remark.)

Donald's remark about dogs not wanting to help cats! too funny!

Stacey definitely couldn't take responsibility. She did blame someone else everytime she was called on something. Glad she's gone.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jasper, I thought the same about the Donald's comment re: exaggerating. There could have been more to it...parts that were edited out. Maybe we'll get to see on Saturday if they show an extended board room scene.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 10:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I don't know whether anyone caught Stacy on the Today show this morning, but she apparently asked Katie to ask her whether she was single--it was something like this: " So Stacy, you asked me to ask you about whether you're single or not. SO are you single?"--so Stacy could let us know she's available.

If anything, she was more deplorable on Today than she was on the show, and I didn't like her there. Katie was not enjoying her much either, I think, because she laughed at Stacy for having a website and for the foolishness of her getting offers for appearing on The Apprentice.

Roxip
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01-29-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 11:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I think the one thing we can all agree on is that nobody is really sorry to see Stacy go...LOL!

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 11:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
ROFL! Hukdon!

I guess you NEVER tell the interviewer what to ask, especially someone as famous as Katie. Sounds like Katie was irritated that this little reality show contestant wanted to control part of the interview.

Luvmykitties
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01-02-2004

Friday, October 22, 2004 - 11:59 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Stacy did look like a fool this morning.

I think she's been the worst "day-after-being-fired-interview" yet.

Yeah - the "you asked me to ask you if you're single" was classic!