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Uhoh
Member
07-23-2002
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 4:44 pm
okay, i'm confused. since saturday's show was also an hour, i assumed there wasn't more boardroom than thursday's. you mean they are now condensing one part to expand another so we have to watch BOTH nights to see everything? that's a new network low! i agree with most everyone about stacie. DT seems to be making quixotic firing decisions this year, and i'm guessing it's a combination of ratings and the fact he's getting paid more to pay less attention this year. and carolyn/caroline/carbine is getting on my last nerve! she seems to be trying to emulate DT this year and is coming off very badly. thank heavens i was never in the apprentice's version of the corporate world. ick.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 5:07 pm
I think Stacie's downfall was Stacie. Yeah, the rest ganged up on her. But she didn't help her cause by simply repeating "I'm not crazy." She never countered any accusation at all. I think there may have been more than we saw though. That incident with the Magic 8 Ball and the "come on, we've won, let's go" bit before they were ready for them; the "running an errand" while the rest are in the house (wasn't she gone for two hours?); the confrontations. I do think she was a loose cannon. Whether or not she likes sorority girls (and she did call the others that with some derision), the point of these first weeks is all about teamwork. And I didn't see teamwork in anything she did. (Remember the "we're on Broadway" statement when they were really on 7th? Or whatever street they were on? And then on Thursday, not even bothering to check the dimensions of the box, and thinking that 20,000 toothpaste samples will fit in a van? That already has a few people in it? Apex was lucky they recovered from that faux pas.
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Muse
Member
08-09-2001
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 5:52 pm
I thought Stacie realized that her behavior had been a little over-the-top, and that's why she failed to defend herself very well. She also seemed a little hurt by the whole thing. In any case, I didn't see anything that would suggest she was crazy. Or that the women were actually frightened. I doubt that NBC would hold back on juicy footage, either. I noticed that some of the women changed their tune as they realized that it was a convenient way to target Stacie and save their own butts. I was really disgusted with the whole thing. I don't think Stacie deserved to win the show (she's too emotional and can obviously rub a lot of people the wrong way), but she didn't deserve what happened in the boardroom. I'm also uncomfortable about the fact that it was the only African-American woman who was targeted...it's likely just a coincidence, but I just didn't like that fact. At this point I want a man to win the whole thing. I'm that disgusted with the women. The only exception is the one woman who told Trump that Stacie's behavior was a little odd, but that it only happened once. I'm not sure of her name, but she had blond hair and was *not* the project manager (obviously!). 
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 6:04 pm
I was trying to figure out just how short Stacy [the other one] is. She didn't look like she could be 5' tall and yet she has that long, seemingly-uncolored hair that makes her look even younger and smaller. Not a particularly effective corporate look, imho. Oh dear god she has her own website, too!
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Ramsfan
Member
01-27-2004
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 6:43 pm
OMG, Tishala, I am laughing out loud even now. I clicked on that link. So funny!!!!!! Part of me doesn't blame her for cashing in on her 15 minutes. But the other part of me is in 'make fun of' mode. My favorite is the contact Stacy page. Here's the link for that one. http://www.stacyrotner.com/contact.html I'm evil for laughing I know but I can't help it!!!
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Catfat
Member
02-27-2002
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:07 pm
OK, I'm missing something. What is so funny about pictures of a short woman in a business suit?
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Sunday, September 26, 2004 - 10:14 pm
I think it's more about her expressions in the pics, especially the "contacts" page. My comments about her height had to do with her hair, corporate image, and proportions.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:24 am
If I was Stacy (with a Y), I would be furious at being called Little Stacy. I thought that was very unprofessional of the woman who called her that. She should be fired. Good show, although I missed the Thur. ep. I thought Sat. would be a 2 hr. again. I am not getting sucked into watching both as they air. I may tape them both. I am not surprised that Stacie J. is gone. George didn't like her and it seemed to really bother him that the entire team was bothered by her. He mentioned this in ep 1 or 2. So, I thought she'd be gone soon. I think the women are not going to do well in this season. I think most rub Donald the wrong way. Right now, Jennifer M. is the only one in my mind that Donald hasn't had a problem with. Maybe he hasn't had a problem with Sandy either, I have no memory of her from any of the shows.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 10:31 am
But she IS little! How tall is she anyways? i wonder if her height has any influence/makes any difference. I know I always notice how short she is.
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:26 am
ITA with Muse. There is no way Stacie J would win this thing, and no way would I ever choose her to run anything. But she should have been ousted when she screwed up the week before. What happened in that boardroom was pure spite...nothing less. I can't find one woman on this show I relate too. They all seem so immature and catty. They all seem to have the stereotypical catty self centered business woman image, that women in the workplace have been fighting for years. It almost makes me wonder if they weren't chosen because of these traits. I have to ask myself, was Donald so blown away by how well the ladies did last time that he wanted to handicap them this time? Or is it just that "cat fights" make for better tv???
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 11:53 am
I don't know. I like Maria, who was on the hot seat for going over budget this week. She didn't really have her claws out for Stacie J and I think she might have learned from her mistake. Sure, she screwed up, like we all do, but if she learns, she can rebound. And I find her less objectionable personally than the rest [especially Elizabeth and Jennifer].
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Dalm_dad
Member
07-06-2004
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 2:53 pm
I thought Stacy was adorable until her subtle but intended comments led to the complete changing of the subject from Maria and Elizabeth and the "shafting" of Stacie J. I thought this was very underhanded.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 3:59 pm
I like Pamela.
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Monday, September 27, 2004 - 4:10 pm
I didn't like Pamela in the first episode, but then I did in every other episode (including the extended boardroom of the first episode.)
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Kep421
Member
08-11-2001
| Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 12:17 pm
Pamela...that's the lady that's running with the guys. I really wasn't thinking about her when I made my post about not relating to any of this season's women. I was just thinking about Apex. Well, I have to retract a little. I like Pamela, have from the beginning. She has a harsh hard exterior, but I like what's underneath so far. I think she gets along well with the guys (at least that's how it appears to be edited). I wonder if she originally "defected" to the guy's side because she knew herself well enough to know she would have a better chance with the men? She appears smart, thick skinned and I like her sense of humor. The Donald was really hard with her in that first BR episode, and you could see she was really worried she was done for. But she rebounded with out all the emotional tears and whineyness some of the ladies resort too. It appears to me she knows how to roll with the punches. So far, Pamela and Raj are my favorite apprentice interviewees for this installment.
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Dahli
Member
11-27-2000
| Tuesday, September 28, 2004 - 7:16 pm
I agree completely Julie and Kep... that's why I like her.
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Highlighter
Member
09-03-2003
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 7:44 am
Did these contestants see the first Apprentice prior to being on this show? I can't believe that anyone would take on the snotty attitude of "I'm not here to make friends" and expect any kind of different outcome.....which is what Stacie did. I was trying to be objective about her ouster to see if she really did anything that bad, but really, I think it comes down to that: she just didn't play nice with others. If I were ever in a Trump position (as if), I would never purposely hire someone I knew rubbed everyone the wrong way. Talk about employee revolt! I haven't exactly been following the Donald's logic for each firing (in fact, I made dh watch the boardroom part of one episode, telling dh what a learning experience it is to see the workings of the Donald's logical business mind....and then he went on to fire Bradford. I was a bit embarrassed), but I can see in the big picture, she had to go at some point. If the rest are still kinda vanilla to him, he may be getting rid of the obvious ones and waiting to see how the rest work out.
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Happymom
Member
01-20-2003
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 10:06 am
I thought at least some of the guys were getting very annoyed with Pamela in the first ep. We haven't seen much of her since. I think she made a very good decision by not sticking with the women. Maybe she had a sense of how awful they would do as a group.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 11:16 am
I know y'all don't like Omarosa, but you should read her commentary on nbc.com. She's funny and has some good insights. http://www.nbc.com/nbc/The_Apprentice_2/omarosas_commentary/omarosa_203.shtml
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 11:37 am
WHO doesn't like Omarosa, Ladyt?! I think she's Omariffic! And I liked her column. You might also like this from the Apprentice Rules website...it has great stuff and it's really well-written.
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 7:16 pm
Oma is Pamelicious!!!!!!!
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Wednesday, September 29, 2004 - 7:17 pm
what time is it on tonite????
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 5:01 pm
I know it's been several days, but since we had a power outage here plus preemption for hurricane coverage, can someone share with me what new footage was shown on Saturday's show? What else happened in the boardroom?
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Monkeyboy
Member
05-27-2001
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 5:07 pm
Thanks, LadyT for that link! I love Omarosa!!!
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 5:45 pm
I wonder why Omarosa hasn't posted any commentaries since Episode 1. I did enjoy reading it, and would love to see what she says about the last 2 episodes! It's an interesting view since she herself lived this experience. CURLYQ - I'll try to post a synopsis for you in the next day or so. Just as an fyi - they replay The Apprentice during the week on CNBC. Not sure of the exact day(s), and not sure which version they show. I haven't watched it.
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Ladytex
Member
09-27-2001
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:04 pm
Luv, there were three commentaries ... look at the tabs ...
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Luvmykitties
Member
01-02-2004
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 6:13 pm
oh thank you Ladytex!
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Curlyq
Member
07-10-2002
| Thursday, September 30, 2004 - 9:01 pm
Thank you, Luvmykitties. I had seen the original airing but missed the airing that showed the extra 15 minutes from the boardroom. I think CNBC shows it on Friday, but I don't think that one has the extra footage.
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