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Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Thursday, October 16, 2008 - 6:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
MSNBC.com - Don't Misunderestimate W.

Whether or not it was premature for Oliver Stone to make a movie about George W. Bush’s presidency — what with Bush still occupying the Oval Office — is certainly a matter of taste. After all, Mao famously told Nixon in the early ’70s that it was “too soon” to evaluate the lasting impact of the French Revolution.

But even though Stone can’t resist the occasional lapse into cartoonishness, “W.” winds up being a thought-provoking examination of a crucial turning point in American history. What may wind up being most shocking to the conservatives who have been pillorying Stone for months is how sympathetic the film is to its leading character, a man who managed to become one of the nation’s most popular and least popular presidents over the course of two terms
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Ocean_islands
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09-07-2000

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 7:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ocean_islands a private message Print Post    
I really don't understand why he made this movie at all. I don't like Oliver Stone. I think his understanding of issues is half-baked.

In addition I don't get why he's releasing it two weeks before the election.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 2:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
Trying to swing a few votes would be my guess as to the release date.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Has anyone here seen it yet? From the breif interview I saw, it seemed the viewer was suprised that it wasn't anti-Bush, that it's almost sympathetic. Stone will say that Bush has turned the country into a mess, but I don't think that's the point of the film. I think it's more a bio-pic. I don't understand the timing either.

Merrysea
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08-13-2004

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 4:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Merrysea a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere that Stone was given up to the inauguration to release the film, but he thought once a new president was sworn in, people wouldn't be as interested in watching a movie about Bush. He released it now so he'd still have an audience.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Friday, October 17, 2008 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
That makes perfect sense, Merrysea! :-) Bush will (thankfully) be old news after the inauguration.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 9:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I read that this was a prequel to Lee's X

LOL

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 4:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
We saw it today. It was interesting, hard to tell if some scenes were realistic or Stone's guesswork. It did present a sympathetic view of W and what led him to seek the presidency. It also made it seem all the more preposterous that he actually was elected. If Stone's view of W is accurate at all, then he will be equally as happy to leave office as I will be to have him gone!

LOL Pamy!

Kookliebird
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08-04-2005

Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 4:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kookliebird a private message Print Post    
Oliver Stones movies are not always based on fact, more on what he thinks is going on. So, I wouldn't put too much into the authenticity of the scenes in the movie.

Mak1
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08-12-2002

Saturday, October 18, 2008 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mak1 a private message Print Post    
That's what I figured while watching. It was all plausible, but unless someone in the cabinet told him about the conversations, it had to be conjecture. Lots of things have been reported, so it was interesting to see them played out on screen. Josh Brolin did a good job.

Beckie03
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07-05-2007

Sunday, October 19, 2008 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beckie03 a private message Print Post    
saw it last night. it was a good movie. it did humanize him...greatly. made it seem like most of his reasons for doing what he did were because he was trying to make his dad love him, proud of him, etc.

i do think it was incredibly interesting with the cabinets meetings...those played out wonderfully.

didn't like the ending so much.

however...i would wait until it comes out on dvd to see it...