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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I read somewhere that the curse is lifted if Elizabeth remains faithful for the 10 years.

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Got to see it this past weekend and enjoyed it immensley.

I will have to watch it a few times to "get" everything... but all in all, a very good movie.

....and rotten eggs... drink up me hearties YO HO!!!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 2:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Calamity,

spoilers..... spoilers..... spoilers....

I have read that theory on Disney boards, that if Will followed the 10 year rule and his love was waiting for him, the spell would be broken. There is also suppsedly an "interview" where the filmmakers talk about a scene that was cut where characters talk about this. So, while I don't have any proof, I'm holding onto hope that that's what happened. I found the ending just too sad otherwise and cried walking out of the theater! LOL.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, May 29, 2007 - 4:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
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what scene at the end with Elizabeth and a child?????!!!!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

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well, boo hiss..i was keeping away from this thread and missed that there was a scene at the end!!!!

btw..Kierra Knightly's mouth bugged the heck out of me.

Terolyn
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05-06-2004

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really enjoyed the movie. Great fun flick.

Theater was packed for 7:10 show. Probably had about 50 people dressed in Pirate Garb.

We had applause, LOL moments and a couple of gasps here and there.

My only problem was....
Kierra Knightly. Her chin was always jutted out. I got tired of all her yelling, especially when she was on the rail barking out orders... just seem way out of place or something.

I love Johnny Depp. sigh....

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 9:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Brenda1966 & Ketchuplover. I hope that is the case!

Cndeariso
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06-28-2004

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am i the only one that will be upset that Captain Jack didn't get Elizabeth? i really didn't want Will & her to end up together. crud.

i will still go see the movie though. but, that will be a BIG disappointment to me.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 9:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Dear Texannie

Have you read this entire thread?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
ketchup..yes, after i saw the movie.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
***Some Spoilers...

I can't believe how some people are so unhappy with this movie.

I LOVED IT!

I couldn't stop laughing. The little facial nuances of ALL the characters had me covering my mouth with my sweater to muffle my giggles.

It did run a bit long, and they could have taken out a couple of parts, but really, everything was there for a reason.
I felt like this was the way the movie had to go. Everyone betraying everyone to make sure they get what they want in the end...

My friend who I went with, turned to me during Jack's "Davy Jones Locker Scene" in the beginning and said "Now I feel like I'm on an acid trip."
Now Jack's even more crazy than before.

My friend was thinking that Jones would stab his own heart, but I realised afterwards that probably wouldn't have done anything cause The Dutchman needs a captain no matter what, so he probably would have been fine.

I wonder what they'll do about Will, because the only way for him to not be the captain of the Dutchman, is for someone to stab his heart, and then he'll die.
So I'm hoping that rumour about the 10 years and if your love is faithful, you're free, is true.

Because I mean, it'd make sense as well. Davy Jones ferried the deaths of the sea to beyond for 10 years, but when he went ashore to see Calipso, she wasn't there.
Which then would explain why he had to stay the captain of the Dutchman.

I wonder what Elizabeth did for those 10 years. Did she remain captain of the ship? Did she have to do any Pirate King duties?

When/if they do make another movie, I wonder what they'll do, because Elizabeth is 10 years older (not that she looked it), Will isn't cause he's dead-ish, and if Jack and Barbossa and the crew found the Fountain of Youth, they'll all be young as well. (Not that it'd matter cause if 10 years did nothing to change Elizabeth, it should do nothing for them :P)

Anyway, I just look forward for this to come out on DVD so I can buy it :D

ETA - I found this on a message board.

quote:

"Ok guys. Here's how it works as confirmed by the writers and what would have been confirmed in a deleted scene. There is a way for the curse of the Flying Dutchman to be broken. The chosen captain may spend one day with his love then not return to shore for 10 years. Then, upon his return, if his love has remained faithful to him and is waiting for him, the curse is broken and he is free to do as he pleases for the rest of his life. Calypso was not waiting for Davy Jones, thus causing him to be cursed forever or until he is killed by his heart being stabbed. After the credits in Pirates 3, we see 10 years later and Elizabeth and William III are waitng for Will when he returns. Thus, the curse is broken and he does not have to return to the Dutchman. So there cannot be any story about them trying to break the curse, because they already covered that. The movie's writers confirmed it."




So there should be a deleted scene on the DVD explaining that. Which makes the end credit scene much more powerful.



Pamy
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01-02-2002

Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 7:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
well I love that ending way better :-)
wonder why they deleted it

Bonbonlover
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07-13-2000

Monday, June 04, 2007 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bonbonlover a private message Print Post    
So there cannot be any story about them trying to break the curse, because they already covered that.


Dang...The movie was so darn long...Why would they delete an integral part of the story line?

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

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Yeah... it is a curious question. I'm guessing they did not pre-screen this film for viewers and get feedback like that did with Pirates 1 or it would have become abundantly clear that people did not like the ending and needed this clarification that the curse could be broken.

I remember reading or seeing on the DVD for Pirates 1 that the test audiences didn't understand the ending of that film and Jack grabbing a coin out of the chest and keeping it. They added that shot of Jack palming the coin back into the movie to clarify.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

Tuesday, June 05, 2007 - 11:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Happymom a private message Print Post    
I think a lot more people may buy the dvd to get the explanation and possibly see that deleted scene. Maybe they did it on purpose to make more $.

I absolutely loved this movie!

I didn't want Jack with Elizabeth because she (even as a pirate covered with dirt) seemed so clean to me and Jack kind of icky!

Jan
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08-01-2000

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better than the second one I think! I loved it!!

Luvmom
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10-17-2000

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I loved this movie movie so much.I had my 13 year old dd with me.She kept shushing me..lol..I guess I was embarrassing her with my gasps and laughter...lol

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

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I had to go see this again. I think I laughed much more the second time because I didn't feel like I had to pay such close attention to plotline. Depp is just hilarious with all his expressions and things he says.

I'm still amazed at the number of people who walk out before the last scene. AAAhhh!

I cried like a baby again over Will and Elizabeth. Two thumbs way up.

Graceunderfyre
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01-22-2004

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oh yeah now I'm much happier with the movie. . .I was not satisfied with the way things ended for Will.

I also hate hate hate hate when movies set you up for another one (like in Spiderman 2)... but now I don't feel so bad.

Graceunderfyre
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01-22-2004

Saturday, June 16, 2007 - 5:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Graceunderfyre a private message Print Post    
btw they may have deleted that scene but I do know they referenced it at least twice, once when Calypso was in the cell talking to Davy Jones and not too long before that somehow Will figured it out. But I only saw it once (opening night) so now I can't remember how that went down.

Greenie
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06-13-2007

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Will noticed the necklace Calypso was wearing, that it was the same heart as the music box that Davy Jones had on his organ. That's when Will knew who Calypso was. They didn't cut it out??

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 9:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
After having seen the film again: Yes, they do talk about how Davy Jones got to be how he is, that Calypso "betrayed" him.

I think what Grace is referring to... !!!!**** *SPOILERS *****!!!!! is that it is NOT at all clear that the spell is broken after 10 years at sea if your true love is waiting for you. It's not clear at all that Will can stay on land and someone else (who knows who) will lead the Dutchman. Even though it's not clear, I'm chosing to believe it's true. I have to have my happy ending.

Graceunderfyre
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Sunday, June 17, 2007 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Graceunderfyre a private message Print Post    
I thought it was pretty clear that the spell was broken, I just forgot about it until Ketchup said it. I thought it was clear about who would take over though.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

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So who will take over Grace?

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, June 18, 2007 - 2:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
AH but Brenda, therein lies the mystery.... and basis for the next movie...

Graceunderfyre
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01-22-2004

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 9:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Graceunderfyre a private message Print Post    
lol that was me typing too fast! I meant I thought it wasn't clear about who would take over - I realized the reason Davy was so upset with Calypso was because she wasn't waiting for him and thus doomed him on the ship, just didn't put 2 and 2 together at the end when Elizabeth was there for Will.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 10:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Okay, I figured you meant "unclear". :-)

Graceunderfyre
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01-22-2004

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:-)

Neko
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08-03-2001

Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 8:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
I'm thinking that his father will take over the Dutchman..

Graceunderfyre
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01-22-2004

Friday, June 22, 2007 - 9:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Graceunderfyre a private message Print Post    
that's how I thought it should be - him or Barbossa