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Archive through November 23, 2005

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Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, November 16, 2005 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
I hope it lives up to the hype.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Me Too. DH and I are going to see it either tomorrow or Saturday. I'll report back.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Thursday, November 17, 2005 - 10:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
I can not wait for this one. I love Johnny Cash, I love Joaquin Phoenix. I wish this was the midnight showing I was going to tonight (gasp! don't let my Harry Potter side ever say that again!)

Muse
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08-09-2001

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 9:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Muse a private message Print Post    
I loved it. I think Joaquin is amazingly talented. I was also really impressed with Reese Witherspoon. Definitely good Oscar nomination potential with both of them.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 10:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
It's quite good. Mr. Phoenix does his own singing (like Sissy Spacek did when she won for Coal Miner's Daughter, but unlike last year's Oscar winner) and so did Ms. Witherspoon. Ms. Witherspoon was no June Carter-Cash, mind you, but June Carter-Cash was no Mother Maybelle, either.

It's not perfect--neither was Coal Miner's Daughter or Ray--but it's better than spending two hours watching Shopgirl, the last movie I saw. I think Cash might have been more interesting than this movie gave him credit for. Now I think I'll go listen to Live at San Quentin.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Friday, November 18, 2005 - 11:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
we saw this one today. I loved it as well. I agree with Tish-I think they may have downplayed how great/interesting Cash really was

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 4:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
A&E did a wonderfully biography on him/them. I had never realized how powerful his love for her was and what a tortured soul he was till she came along.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-)

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
i liked it, too. joaquin and reese were great! i think reese is a better singer than june actually was. LOL

Landi
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07-29-2002

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 8:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Landi a private message Print Post    
all i can say is WOW! if joaquin doesn't get an academy award nomination then they are stupid! amazing performance!

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
DH and I saw this yesterday. What a great story. And I agree Jbean, Reese was amazing with the singing. I felt very sorry for his first wife. The movie was based on his autobiography, which I might have to buy.

Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 9:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
Did I ever share with you all here at the Clubhouse the fascination i have for this man? Lol....
I've had this as my screen saver on my computer and phone since I first heard about the movie....way back when it was just finishing being shot!


Escapee
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06-15-2004

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 10:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Hello, I'm Johnny Cash....

Clutterfree
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10-24-2003

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Clutterfree a private message Print Post    
Escapee, thanks for the info re the autobiography...I might just get that!

Conflicted about seeing this movie, because of how strongly the real Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash resonnated with me. Although I never saw him (them) live in performance, it seems all my growing up years have these strong images of him performing so powerfully on television and on the radio..."the man in black." And I was always impressed by the strength of their union, reflected in the fact that he did not long outlive her. I thought it was so great that in his last year he received one last well-deserved award. He is probably my favorite country-western singer, and close to being favorite singer in all categories, of all time.

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
I haven't seen it and don't have a strong desire to.

But ... one thing that keeps hitting me when I see the previews, and I'm wondering how it was for moviegoers.

I can't help but SEE "Joaquin" and "Reese" the actor/personalities -- do they inhabit the characters in the movie, or do you always "see" the actors? (Does that make sense?)

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 5:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I thought Mr. Phoenix and Ms. Witherspoon were every bit as credible as Mr. Cash and his wife as Ms. Spacek was as Loretta Lynn or Mr. Foxx was as Ray Charles; they were more credible, IMO, than Jessica Lange was as Patsy Cline. Mr. Phoenix and Ms Witherspoon did not try to imitate Mr. Cash and Ms. Carter-Cash [the tactic I think last year's Oscar winner used], so if you are looking for something and someone who looks sounds just like Mr. Cash or Ms. Carter-Cash, you might be disappointed...in the film they are actors instead of celebrity impersonators.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 5:07 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Oh and of course Ms. Carter Cash was never a "great" singer, if by great singing one means pitch perfect; even among her sisters, she was technically the weakest but her singing had the strongest heart. The same is true of her mother, Mother Maybelle, whose singing was....eccentric. But then again, many superstars in that generation of country singers didn't sing especially well--I'm thinking of Kitty Wells and Loretta Lynn, among others--but, like Emmylou and other neotraditionalists, they brought a heart to their music that cannot be matched by the bleached, botoxed, carefully-packaged youngsters who, on their best days, aren't worth singing backing vocals on "Honky Tonk Angels."

Yankee_in_ca
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08-01-2000

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 5:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Yankee_in_ca a private message Print Post    
Thanks, Tish.

Not being a huge follower of either Mr. or Ms. Carter-Cash, I don't really have any preconceived notions.

It's just, I guess, that Reese and Joaquin are such well-known personalities that I've had a hard time seeing past that in the previews -- but that brings up an interesting question for myself, which is, "Why does that not bother me when they are playing fictional characters, but it does when they are playing real people?" I don't know what the answer is, but I guess your hunch that it lies in the difference between acting and impersonation is probably on target... (I'm thinking out loud here, please forgive me :-) and thanks for the indulgence)

Jbean
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01-05-2002

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 6:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jbean a private message Print Post    
i find that i am more interested now in june and johnny than i was before the movie, because i liked the way reese and joaquin portrayed them. i had to get online and look up what june really looked like, because i just don't recall ever seeing her.

i was very much the same way after watching the movie evita, with madonna as eva peron. i became fascinated with her, and even did a little bit of research. i like when movies inspire me to try to learn a little more. :-)


Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Monday, November 21, 2005 - 6:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
Well, I have never been a fan of Reese Witherspoons but I am now...that should tell ya something!

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 9:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Their romance reminds me much of Garth and Trisha.

Ketchuplover
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 3:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ketchuplover a private message Print Post    
Johnny's dad wasn't very nice.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, November 22, 2005 - 3:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
No, and if it is an accurate portrayal, the reason he strived to do so much for his career was to please his daddy. He wanted approval from his dad and never got it. And, by striving to be that way, he neglected his family and turned to substance abuse just as his dad did.

How patterns repeat themselves.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 3:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
I saw it and I really enjoyed it. I also read that his children from first marriage are not happy with the portrayal of their mother and also how the movie glossed over the impact of his drug use on the family and on his children.

quote:

CASH'S DAUGHTER NOT HAPPY: Kathy Cash, one of Johnny Cash's five children, was so upset about how her mother is portrayed in the upcoming movie "Walk the Line" that she walked out of a family-only screening -- five times.

Well, an optimist might point out that she walked back into the movie five times.

Cash said the film, opening Nov. 18, is good and that performances by Joaquin Phoenix as her dad and Reese Witherspoon as her stepmother, June Carter Cash, are Oscar-worthy.

But she also said the film unfairly shows her mother, Vivian Liberto Distin, Johnny Cash's first wife, as a shrew. Actress Ginnifer Goodwin plays her in the movie.

"My mom was basically a nonentity in the entire film except for the mad little psycho who hated his career," Kathy Cash said. "That's not true. She loved his career and was proud of him until he started taking drugs and stopped coming home."

Yeah, that usually does it.

Vivian Liberto Distin died this year from lung cancer. She and Cash were married 13 years and had four children together. He pledged to remain faithful to her in his song "I Walk the Line."

Cash also said the movie fails to show the pain she and her sisters endured during their father's fight with drugs and their parents' divorce. She says it also portrays Johnny Cash's father too negatively.

"Anyone who wants a good sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll movie is gonna love it," she said. "I'm anticipating dyed-in-the-wool fans objecting to a lot of stuff."

John Carter Cash -- Johnny and June's only child together and an executive producer for "Walk the Line" -- says his half-sister's criticisms have merit. But he says it's OK to take some license and that, in the bigger picture, the movie succeeds in telling his parents' love story.

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Sillycalimomma
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11-13-2003

Wednesday, November 23, 2005 - 4:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sillycalimomma a private message Print Post    
great find, thanks Maris!
I found myself wondering about his other children throughout that entire movie. I too felt that his first marriage was glossed over and children of that marriage as well. I am sure it was far more complex then we have always been lead to believe (from any biographys and such that I have seen)
I am sure that Johnny and June's love was really something-but they also could relate far more with one another once he became a man on the road. I think that had a lot to do with it.

I felt sorry for Vivian and his children when i watched the film also