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Lancecrossfire
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07-13-2000
| Saturday, July 16, 2005 - 3:23 pm
here you go
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Reader234
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08-13-2000
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 2:40 pm
aaack, I'm so tired!! What a way to 'relax'!! lol I just finished chapter 10, with Harry and Dumbledore meeting... I'm just curious, my thoughts are, if Harry has an invisible cloak, and Malfoy is able to discover Harry in it... what "tricks" does Malfoy have? Is Malfoy able to listen in on Harry???
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Azriel
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08-01-2000
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 5:57 pm
I better put some space here doo doo doo doo dum dum dum dumdedum I didn't understand why Malfoy didn't take the invisibility cloak from Harry.
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Wargod
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07-16-2001
| Monday, July 18, 2005 - 9:38 pm
I'm not going to say much right now because I really don't remember where things happened in the book to keep the chapters straight and Darrens cuddled up in bed with it right now so I can't check, lol. But, I don't think it was any trick Malfoy has that was behind his discovery of Harry under the cloak. Harry thought his feet were showing when he leaped up into the overhead compartment and Malfoy said something about he thought he saw something. Ya know Az, that really doesn't make much sense does it? He could have taken the cloak, unless his reasoning was that if he did there was a chance Harry would have been found.
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Reader234
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08-13-2000
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:51 am
Yes, Azriel... do do do dooo dooo.. no spoilers in the first line... OK, why I keep thinking of y our point Azriel, I have no idea!! Anyway, one thought happened is, maybe Draco does have something to help him, does Snape know of the existance of the cape? (or since Harry has it, Draco may think Harry would run to Hogwarts and snitch on him about the cape... or Draco just figured if he left Harry wrapped up in the cape Harry would be sent back on the train to London - - I dont like that last one if Draco has been asked by Voldermort to kill harry... but again, its all Azriel's fault I've been over thinking this point in the first place LOL! or perhaps it is because Draco is so self confident of his place with Voldermort he doesnt think he needs the cape (a 'cheap trick' in his eyes??? at this point I'm thinking of what it is that Draco tried to get repaired before going to Hogwarts mind you!! ) 2. I agree that he did see Harry's feet, and 'felt' the presence (forget how JK foreshadowed that!!) So thanks AZ for your thoughts, I've been reasoning it out ever since!! roflol! Still too tired to stay up and read - I cant believe how exhausted I am!!
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Tashakinz
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11-13-2002
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 11:21 am
la la la My thoughts on the cape were that Draco hoped Harry wouldn't be discovered and would rot under the cape while under the "petrificus totalus" spell.
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Calamity
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10-18-2001
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 1:00 pm
*~*~*~*~ Spoiler Space *~*~*~*~ While it is a bit curious, I suspect this may have just been a way for JKR to move the story along without having to pause for the carriage ride and sorting or dealing with an extra sub-plot of Harry retrieving his Invisibility Cloak. I'm enjoying the brisk pace! There were times I thought GoF and OotP got a bit bogged down. I've read through Chapter 17. It's so hard to put down. Still, I expect all the discussion will be done by the time I finish this book, just as it was with OotP! I ended up talking to myself about that book, lol. I almost felt the tiniest twinge of sympathy for Aragog (well, actually Hagrid) but it was just a little flicker. I'm sorry, I just worry about all the other creatures that live in the Forbidden Forest and have that colony of killer spiders for neighbors! Percy coming to the Burrow - not the happy reunion I was hoping for *sigh*. And I'm not liking Scrimgeour (though I did love that opening chapter about the PM). And I still flinch at the sight of Umbridge's name. Tom Riddle/Voldemort - man, was he born BAD or what? I'd wonder if he ever had a chance for a decent life, what with Salazar's blood flowing through his veins, but as Dumbledore said, it's our choices that matter and TR appeared to decide early on to hurt others. Btw I really wanted to find out more about Tonks's Patronus changing (into a big dog, perhaps?). Which brings me to Lupin. So wonderful in PoA and such a disappointment in OotP. I'm anxious to see what happens with him. I like Harry falling for Ginny! Hermione and Ron drive me crazy, lol.
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Reader234
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08-13-2000
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 2:02 pm
Well Calamity, I'll talk with you!! Spoiling alert up to 17 of course!! About Ginny and Harry - I remember when Ginny was "lovestruck" around Harry, and I remember thinking, I wonder if.... and now I chuckle, a little foreshadowing again?? I do think its sweet to include this part of "growing up" such a confusing time for kids!! I think JK is so respectful of kids in general, and knowing she wrote this for her own, makes me smile!! Even the conflict of Hermione and Ron, it reminds me of Little Women, Louisa May Alcott wrote that book in installments, and she would get reader feedback on what "should" happen with her characters Jo and Laurie... I think JK slowly introducing us to the relationships is very respectful of the characters, and the readers!! TR - didnt you wonder why Dumbledore allowed TR to be alone? I imagine now that I think on it, in a way so was Harry, Dumbledore leaving Harry on the doorstep of his Aunts... knowing Harry wasnt treated kindly at all, and yet Harry still chose Gryfindor, and good over evil... interesting. And at the same time, will Draco or Snape of any redeaming factors??? I agree about Percy... I wonder if he'll be sacrificed as his character isnt really intrigal to the storyline???? Oh, and another Christmas! I still want to know what gifts Harry gives the Weasleys!! That bugged me so in Book 1, now he has even more gold... yet in this book it seems to make the Weasleys much more comfortable in terms of income... but still... such a minor detail for me to be bugged about!! lol... I forgot about Aragog - there has to be a reason why that was included.... but that does bring up a point, Harry's House Elf giving Harry maggots, isnt that what Hagrid had to give Aragog??? (of course that may mean nothing!! just leapt up at me!!)
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Calamity
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10-18-2001
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 3:02 pm
Reader234: Hi there! Spoilers ahead...... Oh I loved Little Women when I was a kid and to this day resent the fact that Jo didn't get together with Laurie, lol. And did I ever cry over Beth *sniffle*. I always remember this episode of Friends where Rachel gets Joey to read LW and she walks in to find him all teary-eyed... Anyway, I like how JKR has handled the kids' growing up too. Long ago I learned the internet word "shipper" because of all the Harry & Ginny posts (this was pre-GoF) and for the life of me I just couldn't understand what anyone saw in Ginny! She didn't say or do anything (except blush when around Harry) although Ron said she talked non-stop. And then finally in OotP she develops a personality. I really like her now - almost as much as Hermione. I like Luna too. Now Lavender and Ron, that caught me by surprise, lol. That is an interesting comparison between TR and Harry. Both were left alone at a very young ago - Tom had no family at all but at least wasn't neglected at the orphanage while Harry did get to live with relatives but they treated him with outright contempt. And look how each turned out. I can't imagine Draco having any redeeming qualities or having a change of heart. Snape, well, I admit I'm biased, but I just don't trust him (no matter what Dumbledore or Lupin says). I think he has ambitions of his own and has been using the conflict between Dumbledore & Voldemort for his own ends. I could be wrong though. I agree Percy has a target on his back. He could either be a noble sacrifice, trying to redeem himself to his family by aiding Dumbledore's side. Or, because I just can't see him as truly evil, he could get in with the wrong crowd and be killed like Sirius' brother when he tries to get out. Either way, things don't look good for him, do they? I gave up trying to figure out how wizard finances work. Magic, money, it's all a mystery to me. But I couldn't help laughing at the part where Kreacher sends Harry a Christmas gift. I just picture him wrapping it while muttering vile things under his breath. I'm worried the thing with Aragog does not bode well for Hagrid. But I'm very concerned about Dumbledore too. Well, I'm off. Going to read some more tonight! Oh and I almost completely forgot about Katie! And I was so glad Harry didn't really cheat by giving Ron the lucky potion (not to mention that he'll probably need it for something more important - yes, more important than Quidditch *gasp*).
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Reader234
Member
08-13-2000
| Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 3:21 pm
dum da dum dum dummmmmmm spoiling space ..... Just finished Chpt 18, so I'm going to head over to that spoiler area... well, maybe I should read a few more chapters so *I* dont get prespoiled!! Just read some more doings (Chapter 18) that are forshadowing what I suspect about a character!! (roflol - not that that makes one bit of sense!! I'm just 'itching'(literally, the mosquito bites are driving me itchy!!) to talk about it!! LOL - but know better....!!!)
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Roxip
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01-29-2004
| Wednesday, July 27, 2005 - 12:26 pm
So, I'm enjoying speculating who is the Half-Blood Prince. First I thought it was somebody who was truly evil (now), and now I am wondering if it is somebody else who we aren't sure whether they are evil or not...hmmmmmm.
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