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Nickovtyme
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07-29-2004

Sunday, May 22, 2005 - 9:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nickovtyme a private message Print Post    
What I found interesting is now that I've seen Revenge of the Sith....Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones...make much more sense now and aren't as unbearable to watch.

Happymom
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01-20-2003

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Maybe I can actually watch PM and A of the C after I see R of the Sith! I'm with PCakes2 (VERY cool how you ended up seeing it!), I slept during one (and I even went to the theater to see it) and don't think I saw the other...don't remember! I am not a fan and had not desire to really see any of them ever again, but now I think I will and perhaps I will enjoy them. I do remember liking the first one all those years ago.

Puppylov3
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01-26-2004

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 5:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Puppylov3 a private message Print Post    
Clones was on fox last night. I caught part of it. Being an aspiring writer and having seen Sith I found some of the plot points and such interesting (not to bore you all but I caught a whole series of things happening that fit into 'eliminating all possible outcomes but the one you want' that make sense (or I just hand't paid attention to) and can see now thanks to sith.

yes - i'm a bit of a writing geek.

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 7:04 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Faerygdds a private message Print Post    
OK... Big Star Wars fan here... Saw original in theatres... saw Empire in Theatre... skipped school (with Dad and brother) to wait in line 16 hours to see Jedi on opening day. I love ewoks!!!

Though Phantom was just OK... A of the C was horrid...

But after all, I have to know how it ends.... or rather WHY it ends the way it does.

I loved it! I was sad, depressed, horrified, and thrilled that it ended the way it did... as it should be... as it had to be...

Pcakes2... The scene where he goes to the temple and does the unspeakable thing... YES... had to be shown! Anakin would never have done that, but someone who has given himself fully to the dark side would not hesitate. It was necessary because up until that point... he was redeemable in the audiences eyes, but after that we knew there was no turning back for him.

Although I will say that my heart just sunk into my chest when I saw it... :-(

Kep421
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08-11-2001

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 1:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kep421 a private message Print Post    
Saw it yesterday...I am a huge StarWars fan...

First StarWars flick I ever cried during...*sighs*

When Aniken took out his saber and they cut to the eyes of the younglings, I said "NO" out loud in a silent (although jam packed theater) I tend to get emotionally involved in some movies...

I agree tho, it was an effective and necessary way for the director to turn my admiration for the character of Aniken into disgust for the character of Darth Vader...

but....the fear in Vader's eyes just before the mask went on reminded me of the Aniken that was still there...somewhere deep...

Knightpatti
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12-06-2001

Monday, May 23, 2005 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Knightpatti a private message Print Post    
Loved it!

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 7:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Faerygdds a private message Print Post    
spoiler alert!!!
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but....the fear in Vader's eyes just before the mask went on reminded me of the Aniken that was still there...somewhere deep...




YES! I also loved the juxtaposition of Padme's line, "There is still good in him, I know it!" She said it and I remembered the exact same line from her son in Jedi... it made my cry!

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 8:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I went to see it because I've LOVE LOVE LOVED Ewan McGregor ever since The Pillow Book.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 2:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Calamity a private message Print Post    
For me, there were two turning points in Revenge of the Sith – one functional, one dramatic. The first was when the sinister Chancellor Palpatine slyly hints to a reckless and vulnerable Anakin Skywalker about the power of the Dark Side of the Force. In that one quiet scene – a rarity in the prequel series as it was neither a razzle-dazzle action sequence nor a ponderous speech but was instead an actual conversation – Ian McDiarmid finally gets the saga back on track.

The second turning point was when a chillingly calm and light saber-wielding Anakin faces a roomful of frightened young students looking to him for help and protection. The scene cuts away as both they and the audience realize what’s about to happen. My happy childhood memories of Star Wars adventure were suddenly jolted with the shock that this wasn’t fun and games anymore. I watched the rest of the movie with a clenched feeling in my stomach.

Star Wars was never really noted for great acting or (with a few exceptions) memorable dialogue. Thankfully however, the cringe factor is much lower in RotS than it was in either Attack of the Clones (which, to be fair, I didn’t think was that bad at all) and The Phantom Menace (not good but also not as awful as I feared it would be). Still, as Jedi Samuel L. Jackson uttered his lines in an oh-so solemn and stiff monotone, it occurred to me that the only actor who was ever able to talk about the Force without sounding like a complete dork was the late Sir Alec Guinness. Kinda funny given his negative opinion of Star Wars.

Poor Natalie Portman. I read that because of running time constraints, George Lucas cut out a subplot in which her character was secretly involved in the formation of what would become the Rebellion. It’s too bad he didn’t opt to trim some of the endless battle scenes instead because that plot would have provided some nice continuity with the original films. Plus it would have given her something else to do besides model different hairstyles.

Ewan McGregor has played young Obi-Wan Kenobi with grace, humor, and lightness, qualities sadly lacking in most of the other prequel performances. He should be considered the MVP of Episodes I-III. In fact, as he staggered away after the climactic battle between him and Anakin, I thought of how part of me sort of wishes the prequels had been about him instead of Darth Vader. And I thought his utter despair at Anakin’s betrayal – and what it forced him, Obi-Wan, to do – was even more devastating than Padmé’s reaction and actually made me care more about Anakin than I might have otherwise.

Which brings me to Hayden Christensen. I know he’s been faulted for being whiny and wooden but I thought he was okay in the role. Not amazing, mind you, but certainly adequate. (And his eye scar reminds me of the one Lost’s Locke sports.) I did think his fall from grace seemed rather weak and impetuous (one second he’s shattered by what he’s just done to fellow Jedi Mace Windu, the next he’s pledging allegiance to the Sith Lord), but the screenwriting and/or editing should share the blame there. Some of the very things that got Christensen slammed as being “not right” for the role – such as his slight build, almost delicate features, and his portrayal of Anakin as a romantic who struggles with his emotions – are what make his transformation so terrible. And his desperate obsession to protect his family makes Darth Vader coming to Luke’s aid in Return of the Jedi all the more poignant and believable now. In the end I was truly horrified by Anakin’s fate – one that was far worse than I had ever imagined. And I don’t mean just his physical injuries, although they were beyond awful. I mean that look in his eyes – as someone said, you could see Anakin was still in there - and that scream…and then to hear that heavy breathing and James Earl Jones’ voice…well, it gave me a shiver.

The visual effects were so much better in this movie than the previous two. Everyone made a big deal about the computer generated Yoda’s fight scene in AotC but I wasn’t impressed. It reminded me of those commercials where there’s a break dancing baby or grandma. It was just creepy. But in RotS, Yoda’s movements seemed much more natural. Whew. Now if only he didn’t talk like a drunk Fozzie Bear. Oh and I absolutely loved that giant lizard creature that Obi-Wan rode. Its calls were so cool too – sort of cross between a bird's song and a dinosaur's cry. When they fell, I whimpered and hoped it could swim. I also remember one gorgeous shot - it was only on screen for a second or two – of a lush alien landscape and city skyline with several planets/moons in the sky. Blink and you'd miss it but it probably cost a staggering amount of money. Also liked the trip to the Wookie planet (but then, I liked the Ewoks too); it was funny how both of us automatically looked for Chewbacca and were able to recognize him right away, even amongst all the other Wookies, lol. And R2-D2 can still make me laugh.

Eh, had some more thoughts about the story arc, the uproar over RotS's political "message", as well as questions about plot points/holes, etc, but I've already gone on long enough.

My grade: /out of 4

Movie Trailers: Mr. And Mrs. Smith, Batman Begins, Fantastic Four, War of the Worlds, The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe, Stealth

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 2:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Thanks for the thoughtful review, Calamity! FWIW, I've heard really good advance things about Mr. and Mrs. Smith.

Maris
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03-28-2002

Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - 2:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Maris a private message Print Post    
The Mr. & Mrs. Smith trailer looked great, a lot of fun. Also the Chronicles of narnia looked pretty good but my recollection of the first book was that there wasn't much action, so looks like they took a little license there. Batman looked good too.

I think it is going to be a great summer for movies.

I also loved your review Calamity. Remmber too the scene in the prequel where Darth dies and the mask is taken off, you see the old Anakin again. I thought Christensen did a pretty good job and the make-up was fantastic. You saw him losing his humanity in his face. make up should definitely get an oscar.



Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Sunday, May 29, 2005 - 9:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Vsmart a private message Print Post    
No wonder Lukas started with Episode 4. After Episode 1 there would not be any more movies made. To say that this is the best of the three Anakin movies is not saying much. The plot was ok, but the endless battle scenes & the pod race seemed like ads for the video games. Yoda ,Obi Wan & Palpatine were the only characters who were interesting on the screen. I saw the original movie opening day in SF.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Tuesday, May 31, 2005 - 2:29 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
We saw this over the weekend. It was ok but it was kinda hard to get too excited already knowing the ending.

Jennabeesmommy
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06-06-2004

Sunday, June 05, 2005 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jennabeesmommy a private message Print Post    
I saw this last night. The original ones are still way better, but it was nice to finally see everything tied together. Now, I just hope George Lucas changes his mind and does the last three, too, because I want to know how the whole thing ends, too.

Tashakinz
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11-13-2002

Thursday, June 09, 2005 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tashakinz a private message Print Post    
Went and saw this last night. I'm very glad it was rated pg-13. It's definitely not for kids. Much better script this time around than the first two prequels.

Buggles
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09-07-2002

Sunday, June 12, 2005 - 4:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Buggles a private message Print Post    
I thought the Emperor guy's acting was outstanding. Imho it really helped carry the movie.

Eeyoreslament
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07-20-2003

Saturday, June 18, 2005 - 8:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Eeyoreslament a private message Print Post    
I saw this today. Overall I liked the movie, but broken down, I wasn't happy with a few aspects of it. The dialogue was terrible in some parts, especially anything that came out of Nathalie Portman's mouth. Blegh. I felt like this was an overly-simple plot; Anakin isn't getting his way, goes to the dark side, the end. I wished it would have been a bit more intricate.

The special effects were good, and I really like the creativity that went into all of the different "worlds". I am not a big fan of computer animated things like fights, because there's nothing too impressive about the choreography of a fight if it's just a computer simulation. The Darth Maul fight in Phantom Menace was great, because I think it was real.

I loved the transformation of Palpatine to Darth Sideous. How his voice lowered at the scene went on, and it grew more and more evil.

I don't like the word "younglings".

I would have loved for there to have been a longer "end" to the movie. It seemed like Padme's childbirth scene, and the "birth" of Darth Vader were very rushed. Everything after the two light-saber fights seemed very abridged and rushed. Next thing I know, the credits are rolling.

I liked how they visually tied the end of the movie to the visuals of the old school first movie. Seeing the guys in the Nazi-esque uniforms etc.

I didn't like the Jimmy Smits character. It seemed too forced. And all of a sudden he's the guy who will raise Leia. Weird.

I just wished that they would have spent less time on Anakin's spoiled and cocky attitude in the beginning, and more time on the endings.

Oh, and what was with the forced comedic dialogue care of Obi Wan at the beginning of the movie?? Star Wars does not need to be a comedy.

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 2:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
belated review but i absolutely loved this movie - i saw it last month on my birthday and then went and watched all the other 5 in order of timelines because everything makes senses now and this definitely brought everything together. People are right when they say that it makes 1 and 2 better, but it also helps clarify 4-56. like when they say in 4 (i think) that its the son of skywalker and yet we never knew about anakin skywalker and all that backstory when 4 came out in 1977 and yet now that line is so much more powerful to hear. I really liked all the characters and the action and the artistry of all the scene... definitely think the temple scene was necessary so that anakin was NOT anakin anymore and we knew he had gone to the other side and midway through the movie i was thinking hey why were there only 2 jedi's in the first movie in 1977 if they had all these jedis in the past and then i realized this is about to be a set up and everyone except yoda and owi wan will die (along with the babies of course) and then wham, that is exactly what started to happen - reminded me of the godfather movies with all the families being gunned down at once :-).

i want more now but the problem is WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS!!!! but really i wouldnt mind seeing the babies grow up and how leah becomes a senator and how luke grows up too and what darth vader does in the meantime etc etc .... and it was so funny to see Chewbacka as one of the people fighting with the jedi, and how C P3O had his memory erased so he had no idea that he knew all that history once he meets luke in #4 -

great #3 and i do hope george reconsiders doing more. and Ewan was awesome - cant think of many who could play a younger alex guinness any better

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Sunday, June 26, 2005 - 4:34 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
also the Star Wars Trilogy: Bonus Disc is really cool with all the documentaries and featurettes about star wars :-)

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, July 19, 2005 - 10:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
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