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Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 12:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Surely someone has seen this!!

I've seen the actors on The View, and of course on a couple of the Entertainment shows... I so love the stage production, and the trailer looks AWESOME! Seeing as how Andrew Lloyd Weber is involved... I was talking to DS and his girlfriend, who are planning to see this, but with ds hearing impairment he doesnt think he'll get much out of it, and his girlfriend isnt familiar with the play... so I googled, and here's a link to the story I gave to them...

Phantom Story



Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, December 29, 2004 - 11:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Reader, I saw it monday night. It was fabulous. If you're a fan of the stage version, you'll love it.

They added a few scenes that explain some things in more detail and actually give us some closure. I wouldn't normally want anything changed but the scenes worked well. I wondered if Andrew Lloyd Weber always had them in his mind.

The music is great as ever. The actors did well. I especially liked Raoul. He was straight out of a romance novel...The Phantom was a perfectly tortured soul.

It is always easier to feel the vibrations of the music in a stage production but it is a beautiful story visually as well.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Friday, December 31, 2004 - 9:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I posted in general discussions, I so loved the movie, and will see it again, and again, and will buy it if it comes out on dvd!!

Yet, I so want to discuss the movie, the ending in paraticular!!

The cinematagrphy was so stunning, just an amzing all around movie!! Yet, I undersand how it is confusing to combine the stage and the book... which is why I am confused...

When I got home I listened to the movie CD, and dd was interested, it was funny me going on about my feelings as fact, but dd was immediately into Phantom as a Beast in Beaty and the Beast and wanted Christine to stay with Phantom, I tried to get her in the whole tragic scenario, but I think she's determined to relate Phantom to Beast!! Yet, she does have points!! :-)

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Reader.


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There was always a point in the play where I thought, "what if Christine stayed with The Phantom?" but then I remind myself that he is a murderer and a very disturbed man...lol I think they do romanticize him a bit but I am ok with that. It makes me see the draw she has to him.

I think the movie really played up her dead father and how she thought he sent the Angel Of Music. I got that in the play but not so much as the movie. It makes her 'brainwashing' much more realistic.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, January 01, 2005 - 7:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
For myself, I always thought living in a sewer would stink!

Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Monday, January 03, 2005 - 10:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw this on Christmas. I LOVED it! I have seen the musical on Broadway and off Broadway and came home feeling exhilarated and feeling that Ms Rossum was the finest Christine I have ever heard! What a VOICE!

CD already on order! :-) :-) :-)

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Monday, January 03, 2005 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I had to go back and see it!!Possible spoilers here too....
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I agree Fab, and it still makes me wonder, at most she is seduced by her Angel of Music (wonder if this is likened to an Oedopus (*sp) complex, because it is certain her father promised to send the Angel, then again,( and how moving is her song, Wishing you were somehow here again... ) maybe she was thinking this is her father's choice - so when she sings "That's all I ask of you" and Rhaul declares his love, and seems to promise marriage in the song, and then in Masquarade... yet in those days it was common to have flings with opera singers wasnt it?

In the last scene when Christine kisses the Phantom... oh my, she does seem to release him, to forgive him, to love,

speculation now... so mmme Girdy (sp?) is at the auction, so that seems to indicate a continued relationship... but I was so confused my Meg Girdy... what was her relationship to the Phantom?

and I do love my CD's!!

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 7:18 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
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I just always just assumed that Meg was there to be a friend to Christine and a daughter to the other lady. I never really thought much of her.

I think she did trust Raoul because they had a history together. I never got the impression he was looking for a mistress, which is what an opera singer would typically have been for him. I think she was always just afraid about what the Phantom would do if he knew about her and Raoul. One part was fear for Raoul, and one for fear of losing the Phantoms guidance. This is just my opinion though.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Tuesday, January 04, 2005 - 7:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Haven't seen the movie yet, but saw the musical several times. That was always my take on Christine and Raoul's relationship too, Fab.

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 6:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I so agree...

about the relationship with Christine and Raoul, I was just speculating on the time period and how hard it would be for Christine to believe Raoul, or people around her. I've also spent time on google because I just founnd it so loving the way Meg went looking for Phantom, the way she picked up his mask, and in the black and white her mother was at the auction... but I didnt like anything I found, LOL, I like my imagination much better!! I just loved the love story of Raoul and Christine, I found it very hard watching Phantom and Christine because he held such power over her, as a teacher/mentor, as well as Christine believing he was sent by her Father! I felt Phantom's need to be loved, so I thought Meg would be a good substitute!! (*g I'm a romantic ok?!)

Fabnsab
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08-07-2000

Wednesday, January 05, 2005 - 10:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Lol, Reader, I am a romantic too. I always just chalked the last scene with Meg looking for Phantom as a curious girl whose mother protected this man and whose best friend was trained by him. Maybe she hoped she could be his next pupil? She would have her eyes wide open to what he is versus Christine who thought he was an Angel. They could possibly work out...lol

Vsmart
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02-10-2003

Saturday, January 08, 2005 - 4:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Isn't the story an allegory for the choice Christine has to make between marriage & her career?

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Tuesday, January 11, 2005 - 12:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Before my son was born, my mom and I would go to at least one musical a season at the Fair Park Music Hall in Dallas. The year Phantom performed, we bought season tickets so that we could be sure of getting not only the tickets, but good seats.

Next to seeing Camelot with Richard Burton, this is my favorite play and I remember walking out in tears. I can't wait to see the movie!!! I'm just wondering if it as powerful as the stage version where the special effects (i.e., chandelier falling) make you feel you are part of it. Be it the story or actors or both, I was so drawn into the story that it took a while to come back to reality.



Faerygdds
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08-29-2000

Wednesday, January 12, 2005 - 3:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Native... we travelled in the same circles... We had season tickets from the time I was 9 until I was 17! I got to see Camelot Twice, once with Richard Burton and once with (one of my all time faves) Richard Harris!

Saw Phantom once on Broadway in 1990 and once at Fair Park... what was it... 2 years ago?

As far as being drawn in... it took me a week to quit singing the songs in my head...

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 10:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I also saw Richard Harris in Camelot back in 1975 or 1976.

It has been at least 12 years since I saw Phantom at Fair Park. They just had a run of it at the Majestic during Christmas. I park in the Majestic garage, went out for lunch one day and came back to find the garage packed with cars for the matinee.

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Thursday, January 13, 2005 - 10:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I still haven't seen the movie!! Will probably go with my mom this weekend to celebrate her birthday early, though.

I've seen Phantom, uh, I lost count how many times! I saw Robert Guillaume (TV's "Benson") as Phantom once, Davis Gaines at least two or three times, whoever replaced him then I think, and a couple of the travelling productions. I was never able to get tickets to see Michael Crawford as Phantom, but I did go to one of his concerts about 5 years ago.

I have a feeling I'm really going to like this particular interpretation of the story. I saw the interview with Joel Shoo-whatever and Andrew Lloyd Webber on Charlie Rose. Joel really wanted to play up the love triangle, the tenor vs. the baritone, the good boy vs. the bad boy! Plus Joel said "We made the Phantom pretty damn sexy", explaining Christine's attraction to him. I'm lovin' it!

Reader234
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08-13-2000

Sunday, January 16, 2005 - 7:37 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes!! I did get so drawn into the movie, I was even amazed. The music does get louder at appropriate times, and that draws you completely into it.. the one part I missed was the intermission, so they did rework the dropping of the chandeleir, but I didnt even realize it until afterwards... They do part of the movie in black and white, through Rhaoul's eyes, and the color part of the movie is in flashblacks - some people found that distracting, I found it riveting!!

I was so drawn in, I did cry, but more than that I couldnt move, thank goodness the credits rollling helped me to regain control!!

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Saturday, January 22, 2005 - 9:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OMG, I just saw it and I can't wait to see it again!!!! I will also buy the DVD though I don't think it will be the same as on a big screen. Was the woman at the auction the mother or the daughter? This was the discussion at the end of the movie among everyone.

Reader, there were moments where I was paralyzed also. The first time the Phantom took Christine to his lair, you could hear everyone in the audience exhale at the same time at the end of the scene. I was wanting to jump into the movie and take him home.

I could go on all night about this movie. If it doesn't get any Oscars in March, I will be very upset.

Reader234
Member

08-13-2000

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That was the mother!! I also wanted to know what happened to her daughter!! I really felt the daughter would be more suited for the Phantom than Christine, Christine was his 'pupil' and that just crosses the line for me!!!

I went online and apparently there was a book sequal which I just totally didnt like!! I like my movie ending much better!! lol

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I am going today at 3, can't wait!!!!!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
OMG! OMG! OMG! I can't remember the last time I have been so spellbound, breathless and captured by a movie!!! I usually never even notice things like cinematography and lighting, but this was such a visually beautiful movie, how could I not? I had the pleasure of seeing Phantom with Sara Brightman and this Christine was every bit her equal if not better. The love the Phantom had for Christine and the need to possess her and own her were so strong you could touch it.
I liked how they tied up some loose ends, but created a few more.
My daughter has been to several musicals, but never had experienced anything like this. She was speechless. I was emotionally and physically exhausted when we left!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
This was fascinating
http://phantomthemovie.warnerbros.com/
scroll down and click on 'notes'. a very interesting read.

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Your description gave me goosebumps, Tex. I can't believe I still haven't seen it...

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
That is one of the best flash sites I have ever seen!

I absolutely love the Phantom. I'd be embarrassed to say how many times we went to see it as a live musical. I haven't seen the movie yet (we don't get out much anymore with our little ones) but I will definitely be buying the DVD as soon as it is released.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 1:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Jimmer, you absolutely without a doubt must see it on the big screen. I just have a feeling it's not going to be as powerful on DVD. I am going to see it again this weekend.

Tell you what - if you'll spring for the airfare, I will come up and babysit for you.

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 1:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I have a feeling it won't be released on DVD at all, seeing as they still have national touring companies. I'm still waiting for the Les Miserables movie that was due out in 1992, so maybe I'm just skeptical.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, January 24, 2005 - 1:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
well, I posted a reply a moment ago.....wonder where it went???? will try again

Thanks Meli!
Jimmer, ABSOLUTELY see it on the big screen. Get a babysitter!!!! It's even more intimate and amazing on the screen than in the theater if that is possible. I was so worried about the chandelier scenes....I was not disappointed...magical!



I have tickets for Les Mis next month, trying to decide if I want to take my dd.

Calamity
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10-18-2001

Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 2:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I saw this last night. Will post a review later.

Native_texan
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08-24-2004

Saturday, January 29, 2005 - 9:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
I finally got my hands on the soundtrack yesterday and am wearing it out.

Meli456
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05-01-2003

Sunday, January 30, 2005 - 7:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Is Raoul as pretty as he looks in the previews?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Monday, January 31, 2005 - 6:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Yes!

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Tuesday, February 22, 2005 - 9:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post    
Saw it today. Wonderful.