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Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I missed the beginning. They set that up, right? Both of them doing black and white? Tell it is so. This cannot be a coincedence.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Both rooms were bad. I got chills looking at the white room and the black one made me depressed. But I did like the artwork in Doug's room. The crying was kinda phoney and over the top.

Purplecow
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12-08-2003

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Purplecow a private message Print Post    
If I had just spent a year stripping all that woodwork to prepare it for staining, I'd be crying, too.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 7:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I think the crying was sincere here. My reason is that they really did like the black room and the exhaustion and disappointment just overwhelmed them. It just rang true is a very real way to me.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I can't figure out why they let that gorgeous room be re-done to begin with! That crying broke my heart.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
Still sounded over the top.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I hear ya'

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:48 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I still love this show but they really need to shake it up. It is an institution now and that is good for the most part but reallllllllllllllly. Enough of the swapping keys, we are out of time, Ty being sexy, budget in danger..........yada.

You must agee, Mocha, yes? We have been here since the begining.

Mocha
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08-12-2001

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:50 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
I agree they do need to do something different. Like increasing the budget from now on like to $1500 or something.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Yes, that is foremost. The routine is tired also. Something has to shift to keep my attention. I am drifting.

One thing that won't happen, but refreshing, is to get a brief from the home owners. I realize if soneone says 'country', or something equally droll ,they could go in a direction to move them favorably to a new direction.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, May 15, 2004 - 11:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
I thought the crying was very sincere. It was just SO sad. That had been such a beautiful room in the first place. Therefore, I can only guess they agreed to go on the show to get their 15 minutes of fame, and Doug's room from white hell is the price they paid.

Avatar
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02-20-2004

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 5:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avatar a private message Print Post    
I missed Trading Spaces last night, but my husband saw the last few minutes. He said something about all four people (homeowners) crying at the end. I presumed they were crying from happiness. My husband said that they didn't look very happy to him.

What happened?

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 8:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I think that guy that cried was just way over the top all the way around!
I do think that white room could be easy to fix. Get some really fabulous bright pillows, accessories and rug. But then again, they all thought the black room was fantastic, so what do I know!

Scorpiomoon
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06-06-2002

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 8:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scorpiomoon a private message Print Post    
Avatar: The HOs had spent a lot of time restoring and decorating their living room only to walk in and see it transformed into an all-white room. They were very upset because they wanted a room that was much more cozy and comfortable and inviting. Instead they got this all-white space (Doug even painted the plants white).

Many people at the TLC TS message board said the same thing Texannie has. I don't know a ton about decorating, but I'm guessing having to, yet again, restore the wood and the window frames could be another time-consuming job. It might not be as easy to fix as people might think.

Before, to me, the room looked like a space one could come into and feel calm and safe. The all-white reveal looked cold and uninviting. I would have been upset too.

Some people have said, if these HOs had such an attachment to the room, why did they allow TS to redo it? In response, I read, sometimes HOs will request one room be done but the producers will choose another. Maybe they were talked into it.

These HOs should not have gone on the show. Period.

Lurknomore
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07-07-2001

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 10:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lurknomore a private message Print Post    
I caught most of the late night rerun when I got in last night, and saw the reveal again now. What struck me most is this is EXACTLY what annoys me about TS. They 100% could care less what homeowners like or what their tastes are. They came with the black/white theme and it made no difference if they felt if it would work for the people or the rooms.

When the couple pleaded with Doug not to paint the woodwork the other guys had worked so hard on, I found that just cruel how they were dismissed. I'm all for them stepping out of the box and doing some interesting things. But it seems to me ANY good decorator takes into account what the homeowner likes, since they have to live there after the show is done.

It reminds me of one of my favorite TS's...with Vern of course lol. He redid a home of folks that had endless collectables. Now we all know how he likes nice, clean lines with simplicity. But he built tons of storage cabinets and named it "chachke land." (how do you spell yiddish in English lol). And when shocked he did that he replied something like, well it's not my style, but I don't have to live here they do. I wish the other designers shared that attitude, and went past JUST sensationalism and made rooms that respected home owners tastes and that they would actually enjoy living in.

And Scorpio, I don't think it's that the homeownwers were so attached to the room. They just wanted something new and warm, not Antarctica. And they left specific instructions that the one thing they didn't want changed was to have the woodwork they stripped painted. In the past when homeowners have done that, they generally respect that (like when they've built fronts for brick fireplaces instead of painting them). I think that's why they were so upset, and why Doug/TS went too far IMHO. It was just too disrespectful for me to enjoy. I personally couldn't have lived in either room.

Hippyt
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06-15-2001

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 10:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hippyt a private message Print Post    
I agree the room was awful. I mean,c'mon,Doug painted live plants white!!!! I think the crying was sincere too,but I didn't like the way he started to blame his friend. He has seen the show,you can't win an argument with Doug,and he should have known that.

Grannyg
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05-28-2002

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 10:41 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grannyg a private message Print Post    
I want to see the show after the show. The guy at the end said, "get this mike off of me". I didn't catch it last night but I did just when I just rewatched it.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 11:12 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
I didn't like that he blamed the friend either. That was so unfair!

Avatar
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02-20-2004

Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 6:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Avatar a private message Print Post    
Scorpiomoon (love that name)

Thanks for the update on the black/white rooms show. I got to see the last several minutes of today's rerun. I agree with all you that Doug is arrogantly hardheaded. Both he a Hilde couldn't care less what the homeowners want. They have been given license to kill, and they are downright gleeful about it.

I'm wondering if both of them were known decorators before TS fame, and if either of them still have clients? I'm betting they wouldn't dare tell a paying client how it was going to be...no questions asked.

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 6:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
Oh dear. I missed that they had striped their wood work and didn't want it touched. That is a huge amount of work to redo. Could it be that the didn't put that on the don't touch list that they are allowed? No wonder there were tears.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 9:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
My hubby and I watched the BLACK/WHITE rooms and were disgusted with both. The white room was sooooo colorful before, that I couldn't believe the HOs would want it redone! The black room would be okay if all I wanted to do in there was watch TS or sleep, but I'd die if that's the room I ended up with.
On the other hand, both couples knew what TS is all about...they knew the risk they were taking...and to blame their friends for their room is not fair. The friends follow the designers plan, and usually can't make a difference in the design. (That's how I feel about any HOs who blame their friends for their room.)
HOWEVER:
For Doug to say that he always wanted to see the contrast of black and white, my response was/is, then do it in your own home!
My co-workers & I have come to the conclusion that if you want to be on TS, you'd better have at least $1,000 to re-do the re-do.
OK-climbing down from my soap box now...

Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 9:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
I agree with everything you said, Blue. Blaming the friends has always been curious, they watch this show.



Mocha
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08-12-2001

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 9:51 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mocha a private message Print Post    
The h/o of the 'white room' posted on the TLC board (which won't open for me today for some reason) and said they would do the show again in a heartbeat. Amazing that they would if they were so upset at their room.

Bluejaxrock
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04-23-2004

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 12:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Bluejaxrock a private message Print Post    
Back on my soapbox now
Not to mention the number of coats of paint to re-paint the black room. I thought for sure that Doug was gonna say, Hah, gotcha, this is just primer!
Off soapbox again


Fruitbat
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08-07-2000

Monday, May 17, 2004 - 3:10 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Fruitbat a private message Print Post    
That is good to know. The initial upset must have passed and the fun they had rose to the top.

Though their original room looked good to you they must have been ready for a change. They can do that now. I missed the original room both at the beginning and when they showed us before the reveal.