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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Monday, May 17, 2004 - 7:50 pm
I agree.
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Scorpiomoon
Member
06-06-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 1:41 am
Here's the post Mocha was referring to. Click here
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 3:58 am
I think most of the designers on TS at least try to do a good room, even if some seem incapable of it. Even Doug and Hildi, when they are not being gimmicky, can do some beautiful work. Granted, you never know who you're going to get or what kind of mood they're going to be in, and whatever they do may not be your taste, no matter how good it is, but you at least have a fighting chance of getting a competent designer who wants to do a good room. The problem I had with this episode was it was meant to be a gimmick from the very beginning. It wasn't about designing a good room, it was about the gimmick (even more than usual). Throw in the two designers most likely to have studied in Bizarro World, and you have a disaster in the making. I find I love about 20% of the rooms on TS, loathe about 20%, and can live with about 60%. That's pretty good odds, in the long run, but this episode was designed to be in the loathe category from the start. That's why I feel sorry for the homeowners. Their "fighting chance" odds of getting a decent room were slashed right from the start by the gimmick.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 6:33 am
But, they were honest about it being a gimmick from the start. (well, maybe not to the homeowners! LOL) Hildi said she and Doug discussed.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 6:38 am
Read that thread, think the posters asked him some very good questions, especially if he did come in before the show aired doing a "promo". Love how the next thread says to bring Dez back! LOL
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Prisonerno6
Member
08-31-2002
| Tuesday, May 18, 2004 - 7:12 am
No, they weren't honest to the homeowners, and that was my point. I also read the thread, and noticed that he said you'll love the show -- not you'll love the room. It was a dramatic show, that was designed to generate controversy, not give these people well-designed rooms. As for coming in to do the promo, others have pointed out that this episode was filmed months ago. Time heals all wounds, and I still think their reveal emotions were honest -- particularly, as the HO says in that thread, it lasted 20 minutes, and not just the 2 that we were shown. I also noticed that he said they left it the way it was until the show aired, and they are in the process of changing it back.
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Mocha
Member
08-12-2001
| Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 12:23 pm
Manhattan Beach: 20th Street In Manhattan Beach, California, Hildi helps two young professionals make their living room look more grown up and sophisticated. Two doors down, Genevieve makes one gross and barren living room lady friendly for the former frat brothers who live there.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 11:38 am
Was Hildy medicated in this last show?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, May 23, 2004 - 4:06 pm
All next week at 4 ET/3CST they are showing the designer's first episode.
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Fruitbat
Member
08-07-2000
| Monday, May 24, 2004 - 8:28 am
Thanks Texannie. I am looking forward to those. I like both rooms this week, especially Gens. I think Hildy likes to be unpredictable so throws a good room from time to time. She must tire of the extremes herself.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Tuesday, June 01, 2004 - 6:18 pm
Just saw the repeat of the show where Andrew Dan Jumbo was the carpenter. Hildi kept calling him JAMBO. It was clear he didn't appreciate it! Maybe that is why her bed was the last project completed!
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Saggkl
Member
07-17-2002
| Friday, June 11, 2004 - 6:33 pm
I wish they hadn't changed their evening show to 6:00. I watch the news then.Are they going to keep it there? I guess Im going to miss the evening show.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, June 12, 2004 - 9:08 pm
Didn't get to see but a bit of the end..what was Doug's tantrum with the mirror table and why did he looks so mad during Laurie's reveal???
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Justalittlebean
Member
08-15-2003
| Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 9:15 am
Doug didn't have enough mirrors and the guy helping with the room didn't like how it looked. And I think Doug was just being Doug. I noticed how Doug looked mad during Laurie's reveal. I think Doug was jealous that Laurie's room looked so good and the homeowners loved it. The more I see Doug, the less I like his attitude.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 12:21 pm
Thanks. I was wondering if that's what was going on during the reveal.
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Mamie316
Member
07-08-2003
| Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 8:25 pm
I think that Doug is just bored anymore. He doesn't seem to be having any fun and he hasn't done anything THAT odd anymore. I think he's ready to move on.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Friday, June 25, 2004 - 6:52 pm
I also thought he looked angry. (Could be bored,too) The HO had just made a comment about some people not liking Doug's work. He did say he liked his room, though. Doug's attitude with the homeowners is getting intolerable. How could he ask them to do his laundry? I think he would love for someone to confront him. (MHO)
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Jennabeesmommy
Member
06-06-2004
| Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 11:44 am
I think the producers keep Doug and Hildi around purely for the shock value. After all, they're going on 5 years now, they have to try to keep it interesting. And everybody's taste is different. I love some of the ones the HO's hate the most, and the ones they love. And come on, if the HO's watch at all before they sign up, they have to know what they're in for. Don't give them your favorite room, that's just common sense.
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 11:58 am
'Spaces' slump pushes TLC to makeover mode Mon Jun 28,10:07 PM ET John Dempsey, STAFF NEW YORK -- An attack of the clones has sent "Trading Spaces (news - web sites)" into a ratings tailspin. Nielsen numbers for TLC's signature home makeover skein have plunged by an average of 50% during the just-completed second quarter in a dizzying decline for a series that was a runaway hit for the cabler in 2002 and 2003. Falloff in the ratings for "Trading Spaces" has taken a major toll on TLC, dropping the cabler into 16th place in the second quarter in primetime among total viewers. "Trading Spaces" had harvested so many viewers in 2003 that TLC finished last year in ninth place in total viewers among all ad-supported cable networks. Overall, TLC is down 20% from the same period in 2003. The situation immediately brings to mind "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire (news - web sites)," which burned brightly in 1999 but fizzled quickly after ABC got greedy and ran the show into the ground by airing the skein as many as four times per week. Cable nets frequently rely on multiple repeats of hit shows, but TLC took things to the extreme with "Trading Spaces," which bowed quietly in 2000. In addition to tons of repeats, cabler has ordered up several spinoffs of the "Spaces" brand -- from a kiddie version for NBC to a Sunday family edition-- as well as stunts like "Trading Spaces: Home Free." What's more, both TLC and its competitors have gone to town ordering up "Spaces" clones, with virtually every possible incarnation of the home improvement genre now in existence on one cabler or another. There's even BBC America's "Changing Rooms," the show that actually spawned "Spaces." The broadcast nets have also gotten into the act, with ABC's "Extreme Makeover (news - web sites): Home Edition" (starring "Spaces" hunk Ty Pennington) and Fox's forthcoming "The Complex: Malibu." TLC execs admit there's a problem. "We've got to reinvent the show, and clearly we should've done it a little bit sooner," said Roger Marmont, exec VP and general manager of TLC. When the new season starts shooting in August, Marmont said, "We'll evolve the format so that the show will be a lot less predictable than it is now." He declined to provide any further details about changes in the content of the program for competitive reasons,. Some changes have already been attempted: A few new designers have been recruited and the end-of-show reveal has been tweaked. Jack Wakshlag, chief research officer for the Turner cable networks, said there's "less watercooler buzz around ('Trading Spaces') because the genre has become saturated." But Wakshlag said TLC deserves some of the blame for the show's troubles by scheduling reruns so frequently that many viewers tired of it. For example, during the second quarter of last year, TLC ran a total of 156 telecasts of "Trading Spaces" in all dayparts. In the current second quarter, TLC went bananas, scheduling 250 episodes, a jump of 60%. Faced with that saturation, it may be no surprise that the ratings among total viewers and the three key adult demos (18-34, 18-49 and 25-54) all dropped about 50% for those various second-quarter runs of the show. But Marmont said TLC is not ready to push the panic button. "TLC is not just about 'Trading Spaces,'" he said. "We produce 850 hours of original programming a year that speaks to our audience." Of course, many of those 850 hours are "Spaces" clones, such as "Clean Sweep" and "While You Were Out." Cabler's other hits include "What Not to Wear" and the car-makeover program "Overhaulin'." TLC is hardly the first cabler to face a ratings decline for a signature skein. After becoming a pop culture phenom shortly after its debut, "South Park (news - web sites)" stumbled significantly -- but eventually stabilized and continues to be one of Comedy Central's top performers. VH1 also faced tough times after the success of "Behind the Music" spawned a slew of copycats. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/variety/20040629/va_tv_ne/_spaces__slump_pushes_tlc_to_makeover_2
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 2:41 pm
Hmmmmm,could the lame designers like Barry and Laura and Rick have anything to do with this?
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 3:01 pm
ya think?? LOL don't you just wanna smack them and the producers for being so dense???
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Jennabeesmommy
Member
06-06-2004
| Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 10:04 am
Yeah the newer designers are kind of blah. I like Christie, that's about it. They take episodes away from people I like to watch like Laurie and Gen. I understand that the addition of Trading Spaces: Family may have required the addition of some new designers, but couldn't they have some designer's that just do Family and some that just do the classic, and then share some. I agree that Rick, Barry and Laura just aren't very exciting. It just feels like we see way too much of these guys and not enough of our favorites. Maybe they should do real auditions and let the viewers vote. Sort of like home-free but this time it's the designers that have it all on the line. That would be interesting. I'd watch it.
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Not1worry
Member
07-30-2002
| Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 11:00 am
That's a great idea, Jenna. Bring in some unknowns, some designers with fresh ideas. Fresh, not insane. I'd like that a lot better than Home Free. It could be a big opportunity for the designer and we might actually see some decent rooms.
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Hippyt
Member
06-15-2001
| Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 11:12 am
'Fresh,not insane.' Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
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Julieboo
Member
02-05-2002
| Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 11:22 am
When do you all think TS jumped the shark? I think it was shortly after Alex left....
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