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Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 5:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Macy Gray too.. but I can understand your apprehension..

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, June 02, 2010 - 9:58 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm, just finished watching the movie, The Great Debators, recorded from Showtime and.. it was directed by Denzel Washington and produced by Oprah and several others.. and I'd rather put this in their hands..

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 4:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
Yeah, it's already gonna be a difficult piece to do an adaptation on. One good thing to come out of this discussion for me is that now I have the songs from the play stuck in my head :-)

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, June 03, 2010 - 6:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Kevin Costner is in seventh heaven.

The Oscar-winning director, 55, and his wife, Christine Baumgartner Costner, 36, welcomed a baby girl named Grace Avery Costner on Wednesday, the actor's rep tells PEOPLE. This is Costner's seventh child, his third with Christine.

Grace arrived at 5:46 p.m. in California. She weighed 7 lbs., 11 oz., and was 21 inches at birth.

Both mother and daughter are doing well, says the spokesman


Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Dog whisperer Cesar Millan is getting a divorce :-( His wife filed today.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/04/....

I never miss his show. I have such a crush on him. I'm sure he will have no problem in the ladies department. But then again, maybe that was the problem. You never know.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 4:54 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I hate to say it but I have long wondered if that little cutie pie was minding his P's and Q's while out on the road.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 5:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I'll to agree. I know it's pure speculation, but..

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Friday, June 04, 2010 - 7:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
Maybe he said "shhhhhhht!" to her one too many times.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 5:32 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
Of course, wives have been known to stray while traveling hubby was a paragon of virture.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 5:56 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I tried to see if there is any gossip out there about about Cesar, but what I came up with is Gladwell's 2006 "What the Dog Saw: Cesar Millan and the movements of mastery" that he did for The New Yorker. It a sort of profile of Cesar. And in it I found this:

"Cesar was a machoistic, egocentric person who thought the world revolved around him," Illusion recalled, of their first few years together." His view was that marriage was where a man tells a woman what to do. Never give affection. Never give compassion or understanding. Marriage is about keeping the man happy, and that's where it ends."

Early in their marriage, Illusion got sick, and was in the hospital for three weeks. "Cesar visited once, for less than two hours," she said. "I thought to myself, This relationship is not working out. He just wanted to be with his dogs." They had a new baby, and no money. They separated. Illusion told Cesar that she would divorce him if he didn't get into therapy. He agreed, reluctantly. "The therapist's name was Wilma," Illusion went on. ""She was a strong African-American woman. She said, 'You want your wife to take care of you, to clean the house. Well, she wants something, too. She wants your affection and love.'" Illusion remembers Cesar scribbling furiously on a pad. "He wrote that down. He said, 'That's it! It's like the dogs. They need exercise, discipline, and affection.'" Illusion laughed. "I looked at him, upset, because why the hell are you talking about your dogs when you should be talking about us?"


So it looks like they have gone as far as separating before.

There's a little more about it in section 5 of this page.
http://www.gladwell.com/2006/2006_05_22_a_dog.html

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 6:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
So odd that he knows animals, but doesn't understand people.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 6:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Have you guys heard the 911 call Gary Coleman's wife made? My heart breaks. She acts like she cant even be bothered to find a towel to stop his bleeding. I am sad to think Gary layed there bleeding out knowing his wife was watching him die. I hope they investigate her further

Naja
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06-28-2003

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 6:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
That was horrible, Pamy! When she refused to go near him while he was bleeding, she actually said to the 911 operator "I don't want to traumatize myself". Well what exactly does she think was happening to poor Gary as he lie there bleeding? I can't believe she refused to overcome her fear of blood to help him.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 6:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Pathetic. :-(

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 7:14 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I didn't know about that! What happened?

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 8:03 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
It's really hard for me to stand in judgement where people are thrust into a tramatic situation. Once when my husband was having a heart attack...before 911 and the automatic showing of the address where the call is coming from...for the life of me I couldn't remember our address. The operator talked me down until I could remember it. Unfortunitly he did pass away 3 months later.

Nyheat
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08-09-2006

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 8:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Nyheat a private message Print Post    
Wow. That's horrible. I understand having that initial reaction to the blood but you get in there and try like hell to save the person you love.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 8:20 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
If you listen to the 911 call, she doesn't seem panicked or upset at all, just annoyed. She yells at him, refuses to help, just sounds like she is disgusted by the situation.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 8:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
She sounds to me like she's all about herself. Poor guy.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 9:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
It's unconscionable! This kind of thing is infuriating.

OG, I don't think it's the same thing. You panicked and drew a blank while trying to help which is totally understandable.

There's no comparisson, but it reminds me of the time one of my cats had a stroke in the middle of the night and I called the emergency vet, and I was panicking as my cat went all stiff and he wanted me to put her in her case and bring her ASAP and I was afraid I'd break her leg which was sticking out at an odd angle, and I was crying, and panicking, and he firmly talked me through getting her into the case, (I didn't break her leg, thank heavens) and calling a cab. Unfortunately she ultimately had to be put down that night as she went into major trauma. Sounds like I was more concerned about my cat than this woman about Gary. :-(

Sounds to me like this woman was blasé and avoiding trying to help.

(Haven't heard the tape, just going according to the discussion here. I just don't have the stomach for listening to 911 calls.)

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 10:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
The 911 call was disgusting.

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 10:40 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
Naja, I know!! if my DH was ozzing puss and dying I would lick it off him if thats what 911 told me to do!

Obviously she is a gold digger. Did she not know the world would hear that call?

another thing...the freaking operator was just as carefree....I would have been, this is your husband right?? go get a freakin towel and help him

Also, didnt she say I didnt push him I wasnt even near him,,,,when no one even said anythign about pushing him wth?

(((OG)))My heart goes out to you. You said you were in a panic, that is understandable. She acted like ..well, I think Kar described it to a t. Yelling at a dying man....oh she's a jewel!

((Mame)) that must have been so hard to go thru. and yes you were more concerned about your cat.

My friend saw a possum in the road dying and told me and I prolly had more compassion just hearing about it.

Can they open investigation on her or was it already ruled natural causes? Which I dont see how since he was bleeding

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 11:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
I haven't listened to the 911 call, but it breaks my heart to think of that man dying without a single person near him who loved him well and without an eye toward personal gain.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I listened to the call. She didn't sound blase to me. She just doesn't seem to be the sort of person that deals well with blood and trauma. Some people have a fear of blood. I know people (not me but people who I respect) who have left a room when someone was dying and it is not at all reflective of the love that they have for the person.

While I'm not impressed with how she handled the situation and wish that she had done more, I'm not quite ready to condemn her for her lack of physical action in helping Gary at this point. I just don't know her well enough to assess her feelings. Maybe she is an uncaring gold digger but I don't think this call alone necessarily proves it. I do wish she had done more though.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Saturday, June 05, 2010 - 1:36 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
I didn't think she sounded blase. I thought she sounded annoyed and angry with him. That's what I had trouble with. The man had a head injury, and at that moment, your annoyance should be set aside until he's okay. Then you can be annoyed again. :-)