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Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 7:31 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
All I could find were photos when he was a very little boy.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 9:13 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
And isn't that good for Marie's family, that the pictures may not be "out there"?

I won't be looking for any links.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 9:36 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I expect People magazine will probably have some pics along with a story in their next issue.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
:-( It's so upsetting and sad about both Marie Osmond's son and Walter Koenig's son. I hope they've now found the peace they were seeking...

Hukdonreality
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09-29-2003

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:25 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hukdonreality a private message Print Post    
Mary Hart was interviewed on TV this morning and they showed some video of Marie and her son that were recent. Nice looking young man

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 11:34 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
There is a real nice photo of him and Marie on et.com.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, March 01, 2010 - 12:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Guru from Gangstarr is in a coma after suffering a massive heart attack. He is only 43!

Guru had/has one of the smoothest voices in rap... You Know My Steez. And he legitimized Frencophone rap when he dueted with MC Solaar on Le Bien, Le Mal

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 2:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Controversial comic Chris Rock incurred the wrath of Gabourey Sidibe's father at a recent awards luncheon - after the funnyman groped the actress as she collected a prize.

The Precious star, who is nominated for a Best Actress Oscar at Sunday's Academy Awards, was honored at the third annual Essence Black Women in Hollywood event in Los Angeles on Thursday.

But she got a shock as she stood up to make her way to the stage - when Rock grabbed her behind with both hands.

Despite shaking off the Everybody Hates Chris creator with a playful slap, Sidibe admits her father was furious over the incident.

She tells ETOnline, "As I go up to get my award in a room where my dad is, because he's one of my dates, Chris Rock grabbed my butt with both of his hands - and then I slapped him back. I didn't think too much of it at all, but my dad was super p**sed."

And she quips, "Some dudes gotta have it - it's my own fault for being too damn fine.

www.chron.com

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
So what do you guys think of Roseanne's rather harsh comments about Marie's religion as it relates to her son's death? Personally, I think she should say what she wants, but right now is just too soon.

It's too long for me to paste into a post.

http://allieiswired.com/archives/2010/03/roseanne-barr-attacks-marie-osmonds-church/

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 4:09 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Goddessatlaw a private message Print Post    
Really, Roseanne? Did you have a talk with the kid yourself and did he tell you he was gay and suffering from depression caused by the oppression directed by his mother's religion? Did his Mom tell you that? Because if not, it's none of your freaking business. It's none of your freaking business anyway. And frankly, it's pretty sick to use a child's suicide to get attention for yourself. Why don't you go have a talk with yourself over what YOU should be doing rather than telling Marie Osmond to do with her life? I'm pretty sure you'd be less than open-minded about Marie Osmond telling you what to do if your child committed suicide.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 4:13 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Exactly my thoughts too.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 4:26 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Spot on, GAL, especially the last sentence. It was an extrememly inappropriate thing for Roseanne to do.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
If I am remembering correctly I believe Roseanne comes from a Mormon background.

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
I found this on Wekipedia:

The oldest of four children, she was born in Salt Lake City, Utah, to a working-class Jewish family. Her mother, Helen (née Davis), was a bookkeeper and cashier, and is famous for teaching young Roseanne her signature "Fat-Lady Laugh". Her father, Jerome Hershel “Jerry” Barr, worked in sales as a door-to-door salesman of household goods.[1][2] Barr's grandparents and great-grandparents were immigrants from Ukraine, Russia, Lithuania and Austria-Hungary, and her paternal grandfather changed his surname from "Borisofsky" to "Barr" upon entering the United States.[2][3] Barr's parents kept their Jewish heritage secret from their neighbors and were partially involved in The Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter-day Saints. Barr has stated, "Friday, Saturday, and Sunday morning I was a Jew; Sunday afternoon, Tuesday afternoon, and Wednesday afternoon we were Mormons";[4] her Jewish upbringing was influenced by her devoutly Orthodox Jewish maternal grandmother.[3] Barr's brother and sister are gay, which is what later inspired her to introduce gay characters into her sitcom, Roseanne.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 5:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
My best friend lived in the same building as Ms Barr's daughter and hung out with Ms Barr several times. She's basically a quiet yenta deeply interested in Judaism (and Kabbalah) privately according to my friend, but she also has that public part--the part that doesn't know when to be quiet. Whatever she might have said (I'm not going to read it because it probably doesn't deserve attention), she should have kept her mouth shut.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 5:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
btw, I didn't just dig that article up out of obscurity. They've been talking about all day on the gossip shows and I went online to find a copy to post.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 5:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Naja, I hope you didn't think my comment about not wanting to read it was a dig at you. It's just that I hate to think that someone would try to make hay out of a suicide and I'd rather insulate myself from her comments.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 6:04 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
I didn't think it was a dig, Tish. Don't worry :-) I just wanted to stress that this was all over the place and not just some obscure thing I ran across.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 8:12 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
I didn't read it as someone trying to make hay out of a suicide - I think she genuinely feels that certain religions create deep conflict with its gay members because they are constantly told they are wrong, not "normal," etc. In my 40 yrs. of conservative religious experiences, I'd say she hit the nail on the head. The bit about what Marie should do, well - that was none of Roseanne's business. Marie has to make her own decisions and do what's best for her. I think the main point of the article, though, was much more about organized religion's effects on the gay community than it was a "pot shot" at Marie or her family. YMMV.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Her comments on how a gay person might feel under such circumstances are probably spot on, but unless she knew the boy herself or was a confidante of someone very close to him who knew, then her blaming his suicide on that is completely out of order, to my mind. However she intended it, the media, as always are more interested in the specific sensationalistic Osmond connection than as any kind of thoughtful comment on the problems of religion and Roseanne should have been savvy enough, given her experience, to know that would happen.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 8:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
I agree Teach. I think her message would have been a bit more received if she hadn't addressed Marie specifically, telling her what she should do. She could have just commented in general on her experience with the mormon church and it's anti-gay stance and made a powerful statement. With the comments to Marie, a grieving mother, it just seems cold and inappropriate.

Chewpito
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01-04-2004

Friday, March 05, 2010 - 8:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Chewpito a private message Print Post    
I was not going to read the article....but then I did.....
So after reading it, Im going to agree with both Teach and Brenda....
after watching a family member go thru the guilt in my own experiance, (a cathlic family)... Its hard for me to disagree that religion, 'unfortunatly'...(not all) but many...do a incredible guilt trip on any one that decides to go against the grain...."Thier Grain"....
I dont know any thing about the Osmonds or thier family..... so maybe it should not have been directed at them....
But I know that pressure from Family and Religion can cause "HUGE" guilt....if said person is not strong enough to endure it, it can be tragic.......
So in many ways, I agree with Rosanne....but then again....Too soon, and too personal...it should not have been directed at anyone in peticular....just a general opinion.....

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 12:22 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
Aw shit, I did not know the son who committed suicide was gay. <expletives deleted> I hate it, I really, really hate it, that in the 21st century in the supposedly most enlightened country in the world, a gay kid thinks he has to commit suicide.

Sia
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03-10-2002

Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 3:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sia a private message Print Post    
Juju, I found that surprising, too. It wouldn't be my choice to be gay (although most people say it isn't a choice) and I feel it would be difficult personally and professionally to be gay. But, like you said, for a young person today to think that being gay is the end of the world is just sad--because, for him, it was, literally, the end. He ended his life, without believing that there might be a day in the future when he might again find hope. I would hope that no family, no religion, no business, or other organization would ever exert so much pressure on someone that he felt the only way out was suicide.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Saturday, March 06, 2010 - 3:52 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Do we even know that it was people's attitude toward his being gay that caused his depression and suicide? Certainly it is a possibility but I'm sure that there are many other reasons for a gay person to commit suicide (as there are for heterosexuals).