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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 2:21 pm
Naja, where do these boys live? I'd be knocking on a door and letting the parents know what kind of kids they have.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 2:24 pm
Escapee, I really don't know the kids. I don't recognize them from the block. Anybody who gets off at our stop could live within 2 or 3 blocks, or just be getting off to go to a friend's house.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 2:31 pm
True. I think I'd be watching every day to see where they go, though. Teasing and tormenting animals is not a small matter. Better to let their parents know that they are doing this crap before birdies, puppies, and kitties end up tortured and killed for fun. (I've seen it happen and it started by teasing and tormeting dogs)
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 5:32 pm
update on my 2/25 gripe about my asst. getting her hrs cut & me getting strapped with the extra work. She took a wk vac., came back & worked a wk (last wk) & told us on Fri. 3/12 that she had found another job and would not be returning on Mon. I guess "all's well that ends well" but it didn't end well for ME. I received no extra co0mpensation for the 8 wks that I assumed nearly 1/2 of her old responsibilities and now I'm responsible for doing her whole job on top of my own + I have to do the whole job screen, interview process to get her replaced asap. I am salary but, my salary is pretty much based on working 40 hrs/wk and I've always ended up working around 45 and was ok with it. In the last 8 wks, I have worked between 55-60 hrs/wk. I don't want to "rock the boat" because I have worked hard for the last 14 yrs at this job and overall I really love most things about it. Good jobs are just not easy to find these days and frankly, at 52 yrs of age, I don't want to even consider it. I know I'll be working the extremely long hrs for at least another cpl months. How do I bring it up about the pay compensation thing that the boss actually brought up to me 8 wks ago without sounding like I'm just about the money?
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 5:59 pm
At the risk of being blunt, what is wrong with just being about the money? It's not like you're contributing your time to a charitable organization. You should get reasonable and fair compensation for your efforts.
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Y2krazy
Member
09-17-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 6:15 pm
Yes, speak up! Don't worry about "them" thinking it's just about money...It's also about your quality of life. There's supposed to be a balance between work and home. You are putting more at work than you can at home, you need to be compensated for that. Besides they are saving one whole paycheque with her gone, so there is some extra money around to do the compensating until you can get a replacement. "Choose wisely."
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 6:34 pm
exactly Y2krazy - there's been more payroll $$ in the "pot" now for 8 wks because the emp. was an hrly person that went from 40 to 30. My boss is on Vac this wk so I won't even approach the issue until he is back. I am pretty comfortable with my boss's boss though. Maybe, I should just shoot an e-mail next wk to my boss & cc his boss???
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 6:38 pm
It depends how formal your relationship with your boss is. If you have quite a relaxed relationship I would say it in much the way you've described here, something like "I feel awkward about bringing this up but I have been working between 55-60 hours a week to do the part of <the woman's name>'s job she wasn't able to do, and with her handing in her resignation I can only see that getting worse not better. If you are unable to fill her job immediately would you consider moving a part of that salary temporarily to me until the position is filled?" If the relationship with your boss is strained or he's/she's very formal is there a way to address this through HR?
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Kitt
Member
09-06-2000
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 6:41 pm
I was in the editor when you last posted - I would definitely send that email, but definitely make sure it's addressed to your boss and just CC'd to your boss's boss, not with both in the "to:" line and not the other way round.
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 6:46 pm
Kitt, thank you! Boss got promoted to here 2 yrs ago and the going between us was tough - however, "I" AM his go to person now when he needs to trust that something will get done (the whole seeing it through thing). I think I will give him a cpl days to ease back into being off vac. Of course, he's going to ask me about the job search. I will tell him where I am on it and use your words to see where it goes.
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Y2krazy
Member
09-17-2002
| Monday, March 15, 2010 - 7:15 pm
Besides Texasdeb, you mentioned in the original gripe that it was intended that you be compensated. Ask for clarification as when and how much, since you have been working one and a half times (at least) longer hours for x number of weeks. Not to mention how many more weeks until suitable replacement can be found.
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Maplsyrp
Member
02-10-2009
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 12:53 pm
I agree with Kitt. And Naja I would make sure I was visible where those kids can see you when they get off the bus.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 2:40 pm
I wouldn't email. I would do a face to face. It's possible that they were thinking of compensating you some other way (some comp days off, a bonus, whatever). I'm salaried. I work, on average, 60 hours a week, more when needed. I don't expect compensation (that's one of the problems of being salaried) but I am almost always recognized (bonus, stock options). I occasionally take a day off or a large portion of a day without taking PTO. I'm sorry Deb, but I'm not sure you'll get what you want. Unless your job description specifies the exact hours of the day and work week, it's usually expected that salaried employees just do what needs to be done. You may want to, instead, have a convo with your boss about priorities, explaining that you can't do everything in a regular work week and what could be punted to another, later time when the position has been filled. It's not always about the money, but if you are a salaried employee, you sometimes get screwed. That's just the facts.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 3:08 pm
I recommend talking to your boss in a friendly but firm way about it. I think email is too formal a first step and I certainly wouldn't cc your boss's boss before speaking with your boss. It puts your boss on the spot and that won't do anything to help your relationship. -------------------------------------------- Sure they can pay her what they want. And she has the option of doing whatever they ask her for whatever they want to pay her, or asking for more $ or a different arrangement or leaving. It isn't complicated.
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Nyheat
Member
08-09-2006
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 3:25 pm
I have to agree with Costa on this one. Not that I'm some expert but that's part of the reason I'm freelancing--every hour is accounted for, no late nights unless they intend to pay me overtime, etc., and most companies hate that. Some ways to work inside the system--take more days off, the work will just have to pile during that time. Take your full lunch, don't let them pile drive you. Speaking of freelancers--this is the perfect time for your company to hire one. It's not a long term commitment for either party, and the expectations are usually clear: the freelancer comes in and pugs the holes until a more permanent person comes along. After all of this is over, ask for a raise, big time. You are worth it!
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Texasdeb
Member
05-23-2003
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 5:36 pm
Thanks everyone for the great feedback. Boss & I have some very deep one on one work related discussions and in a way we are so similar in our work ethics and totally understand where the other is coming from. It's just making sure you pick the right time, which I'm pretty good at doing. On a positive note, I'v had about 15 applicants and I'm still excepting applications through Friday. I've been doing mini 1st impression 5-10 min interviews with all of the applicants and already, there are 3 or 4 great prospects.
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Costacat
Member
07-15-2000
| Tuesday, March 16, 2010 - 5:43 pm
Pick the right time for sure. Also pick the right battles. I could tell you horror stories of people in situations similar as yours who went in asking for more money and suddenly found themselves out of a job. No one is indispensable, no matter how valuable you are. And yes, the extra hours I work are a PITA. But it eventually evens out. When I had shoulder surgery? I took only a single sick day (the day of surgery). The rest of the time? Didn't track it, didn't work other than checking email on my BlackBerry. That was four days I got back. Costa's been sick and has to go to the vet? And I'm there for four hours? No problem. You have to go to the dentist for an hour in the morning? Big deal. Eventually, it evens out. Mostly. Although I'll admit when I'm head down on deadline, I'm not feeling like it's evening out! Congrats on having some good prospects!! I just hired a new writer, and while I hate interviewing and hate spending the time interviewing, and hate having to travel north for face to face interviewing (eventually), it's worth it to hire a qualified candidate. The fact you've got 3 or 4 great prospects is awesome!
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:16 pm
GRRRRRRRR. My aunt is at it again, but it's my fault. I got pulled in and even egged it on.... She sent me an IM saying "Hey, your mom's 50th birthday is coming up and I was thinking we should have a surprise party for her and have everyone do a "WHO KNOWS HER THE BEST" quiz. A couple of years ago when my aunt turned 50 they did this at her party and my mom thought it was the most stupid ridiculous thing ever. She said "don't ever do that to me." She is not a fan of parties and is pretty anti-social for the most part. For her birthday we had already planned to go out for dinner and drinks and I would make her a cake. This was her request. Then the following weekend we will be going to Reno for a little gambling and dinner. I explained this to my aunt and she said "well, why can't you go to dinner some other time? Or, why can't you just take her to dinner on Saturday and she can come home to a surprise party." I said because that's cousin's birthday. Aunt said "oh she won't mind." I said, yes she will. I said "Look, she doesn't like surprise parties, or parties for that matter. Shes' not like you or me. On someone's birthday you have to do what they would like not what you would like." Well then she got pissed. She said "Are you implying the party would be for my benefit?" No honey, I'm not implying that.....I'm saying that! She couldn't wrap her head around the fact that my mom WOULD HATE her idea, and be mad at us later for it. She said "Well, it's my sister and I know her," I said if you knew her you'd know she'd hate that whole idea. I said, but let me ask her. She said "No then it wouldn't be a surprise." I said "There isn't going to be a surprise party. SHE WOULD NOT LIKE THAT! So I talked to my mom at lunch, fair warning and what not. My mom said "I would hate that, omg I can't think of anything worse. Please lets just go to dinner and drinks and make me a cake, that sounds like so much more fun, we can go to the dollar and dance it will be great!" I said that was my plan, she said thank you. My aunt is floored at me for disagreeing with her. Why do I get pulled in by this Crazy McLooney woman?
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Dfennessey
Member
07-25-2004
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:23 pm
Your Aunt sounds like a winner.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:28 pm
((Escapee)) Ah good old family dynamics and the drama it creates. Great fun, NOT! Stand by your guns and don't back down, you and your mom have a great plan for her special day. It may be up to her to call your aunt and set her straight once and for all.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 12:29 pm
Because you let her pull you in, Escapee. If you just blew her off like it was nothing and said no its not gonna happen and I'm not going to argue with you about it, she would have nowhere to go with it. What is it Dr. Phil always says? You teach people how to treat you. Let it go, honey. Breathe deep. LOL
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Rissa
Member
03-19-2006
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 2:18 pm
Escapee, you did good!! I am just like your mother, I would hate being the centre of attention and it would ruin my whole day (and the week leading up to it as well). You defended what your mom would want, now you just need to blow off your aunt's response and not let it get to you. Hindsight and all that, you probably could have shut her down at the beginning of the conversation but you shouldn't feel bad that you tried to be diplomatic and she can't take a hint. It would be nice if your mom called her sister and told her that she had made it clear to you what she wanted and not to be upset that you were just watching her back but that will depend on the relationship they have.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 2:29 pm
Talked to my aunt, completley caposhed the idea again. I said "she would be uncomfortable." then I invited her to Easter brunch. My husband will freak!
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Hukdonreality
Member
09-29-2003
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 2:44 pm
It would have been funny to tell her that you and (whoever) are having Easter brunch. Then you could have said that you'd call her when you were done eating and she could stop by for coffee. If she got all huffy about it, it would have been great to say, "hey, how'd you like THAT surprise?"

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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, March 18, 2010 - 2:47 pm
ROFLMAO Hukd.......we are kindred. I have an evil mind like that too. My thought was to have a brunch, take a ton of pictures, and them post them on facebook. She's very sensitive about not being invited to stuff. I would have said "surprise, you weren't invited." bwahahahahaaaaa
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