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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 5:11 pm
Remember when Arsenio was on the cover of EW and said he was going to 'Kick Jay's ass' that was the beginning of the end for him. So I do think Jay have a ruthless team behind him.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 6:27 pm
I think Jay is ruthless, Kimmel was hysterical on the Leno show last night. I remember watching the Late Shift and it really was fun. It would be great if HBO put it on again. Kathy Bates was awesome as the agent. As I recall, Jay volunteered to step down and NBC used that to keep Conan on a leash so he wouldnt leave NBC. Conan has been treated like crap. he sat back and waited, Jay moved on as was promised and then when Jay couldnt carry a 10:00 show he said he wanted a do-over. Then NBC instead of moving Jay to the proposed timeslot that they wanted Conan to have, said that Conan had to move the tonight show, a show that has been on at that time slot for 60 years. NBC wants to throw away the franchise to accomodate Leno's "I want". I hope Conan moves to Fox. I as a rule do not watch Fox but I will definitely watch Conan.
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Maris
Member
03-28-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:03 pm
ok, I am not feeling sorry for Conan any more ---- SWEET: NBC nearly closed a deal on Friday in which the network would pay to extricate itself from its contract with "Tonight Show" host Conan O'Brien, according to a source with knowledge of the situation. The sum would approximate what NBC would have paid Conan to host the show for the next couple of years. But the deal was not expected to be wrapped up until the weekend, the source said. Conan will leave NBC only seven months after taking over "The Tonight Show," at a cost to NBC of close to $30 million, according to published reports link
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:08 pm
The problem is that when Conan came out here, he also brought his staff and writers. So what happens to them? I mean, good for Conan for getting the $30 million, but...
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:09 pm
I don't think Jay volunteered to leave. What I remember reading was that he was pushed out. Nevertheless, NBC has really messed up. They did it to Letterman when they gave the tonight show to Leno. Then they did it to Leno when they pushed him out to give Conan the tonight show when Leno had the #1 nighttime show. Now they are doing it to Conan! Trying to push his show back and effectively kill it. Honestly, how do these executive morons get into this position of power and then make these horrible decisions over and over and over. They "cut" Leno. Cut him from the team, then realized they made a mistake and are now trying to make it up to him with the 9pm show, and then offering the half hour show. I guess that does tell just how much power Leno has! But he didn't have enough power to keep the tonight show when they wanted Conan in there, so maybe he isn't as ruthless or powerful as some would think. NBC just needs to let him go, see if he can make a run at a show on Fox, or heaven forbid ABC, and then when he kills Conan in the ratings they'll realize again what a mistake they made.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:11 pm
Wow. So they are going to pay Conan off to leave and give the Tonight show back to JAY?! I think the 30 million should come out of the paychecks of the execs. Total morons! And yes, what about all the crew that picked up their families and moved to LA from NY. All of them are now out of work?
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:29 pm
LOL and now the celebrity quotes: 1. Christina Applegate (via Twitter) "Hey Conan, We support you! We love you! And we will go where you go!" 2. Harrison Ford "He's getting the shaft, in a way. ... I mean, poor guy moved out to Los Angeles to do this show and moved his whole family out there. Put his kids in a new school. ... [Conan] is a good guy. But so is Jay Leno; I enjoy his company. And so is Dave Letterman. It's just a tough, tough world." 3. Ice-T (via Twitter) "This Jay Leno shit is all f---ed up. They got my man Conan in the mix!! NOBODYS SAFE in the entertainment biz. I'm happy to have 25 yrs in!" Jerry Seinfeld: Jay Leno Show was "the right idea at the wrong time" 4. Damon Lindelof (via Twitter) "Conan is my hero. No. Not the Barbarian." 5. Marlee Matlin (via Twitter) "Is Coco a no go? Say it isn't so!" 6. Alyssa Milano (via Twitter) "Dear Conan, Good. For. You. We love you & can't wait to see what comes next for you. With support and love, Alyssa" 7. Rosie O'Donnell "Five years ago, [Leno] was told that Conan was going to get the driver's seat. He had a lot of time to prepare to do something else, and if he felt he still had the goods, he should have been a man and went over to FOX and competed with him directly rather than put himself on at 10 o'clock and really ruin Conan's chances to begin with. I just think it is an incredibly selfish move and I am Team Conan." Conan's new job offer: IRA "bad-ass" 8. Patton Oswalt "Comedians who don't like Jay Leno now — and I'm one of them — we're not like, 'Oh my God, Jay Leno sucks.' It's that we're so hurt and disappointed that one of the best comedians of our generation...willfully shut that switch off. ...You almost want to take [Leno] aside and ask him, 'Why do you want this so badly? Because you don't do anything with it.'" 9. Jerry Seinfeld "I think [The Jay Leno Show] was the right idea at the wrong time, and it was not a bad idea." 10. Sarah Silverman "Really? Six months? I mean give the guy a f---ing chance. ... He did so much for them at 12:30, but then again, I'm somebody that would probably be jazzed to stay at 12:30. I like being able to do whatever I want to do. They all want that coveted 11:30." 11. Howard Stern "It's finally dawned on Conan that Jay Leno had it in for him the whole time. Crapped all over him. ... [Leno] is an evil devil. He's a horrible, horrible guy. I've told you this for years. ... And everybody hates Jay now — which is great. I'm all for hating Jay." 12. Ben Stiller (via Twitter) "I STAND BESIDE AND BELOW COCO" 13. Kurt Sutter (Sons of Anarchy creator) "Clearly, you've been screwed, [Conan]. And the abuse played out in public. It was painful for us, I can't imagine how awful it was for you and your family....but I want you to know that you have an open invitation on my show, Sons of Anarchy. We have an IRA story line that will continue to play out this coming season and I could use a bad-ass O'Brien on my team." TV Guide
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 9:38 pm
Conan got screwed. Can I say that? He did. Big time. By the network. But, hey, I'm glad. Now I don't have to worry about ABC grabbing Leno and moving Kimmel. Leno will go back to the Tonight Show, where I think he's a better fit than Conan. My parents can start watching the Tonight show again. They will be very happy. LOL.
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Brenda1966
Member
07-03-2002
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:42 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2010/SHOWBIZ/TV/01/15/ leno.conan.reputation/index.html Interesting article.
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Lexie_girl
Member
07-30-2004
| Friday, January 15, 2010 - 10:45 pm
Going to Fox may not be such a bad deal for Conan. Fox's nightly news is on from 9:00 to 10:00 p.m., which means Conan's talk show could air 30 minutes earlier than Letterman or Leno.
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Twiggyish
Member
08-14-2000
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 6:59 am
Guess which celebs and comedians WON'T be on the tonight Show when Jay takes it back. I'm so tired of reading about poor Conan. He just didn't get the ratings. Had he been successful, he would have been there 30 years and thumbed his nose at Jay.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 7:14 am
It's just a tempest in a teapot; who really cares? They both have enough money to last their lifetimes and a small village too. (I guess with what's happening in Haiti, I'm just cheesed at this nothing story.)
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Texannie
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 9:25 am
I didn't really know where to put this.... it's an interesting video on how editing is used in reality tv. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBwepkVurCI&feature=player_embedded#
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Konamouse
Member
07-16-2001
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 9:41 am
The big problem isn't the money, it's if NBC has a ryder about when/where Conan can do another show on another network. They may stipulate he cannot be in the same time slot as "The Tonight Show". And they may limit what networks he can work...for a specified period of time. That could be hurtful for his staff (although I'll bet he's the type of person who will take some of that payoff and share with his staff).

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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:42 am
I thought Conan's letter made it clear it is more than money. He has dreamed of the TS job for years, he wants to be the host of that show. I will follow Conan wherever he goes and I hope NBC ratings go in the toliet
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:46 am
I agree with Seinfeld, they should have had Jay's show on Sunday nights. I bet it would have been successful
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Pamy
Member
01-02-2002
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:48 am
OG, speaking of that. The other night Conan did say almost exactly what you said and then went on to promote Ben Stillers Haiti charity.
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:23 pm
I thought a 10:00 Jay Leno show was a good idea. However, having it on every single night of the week, not such a great idea to me. Having it once a week would have been better, but might not have fulfilled some people's egos.
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Ophiliasgrandma
Member
09-04-2001
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 12:23 pm
Good for him...that is class!
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 2:18 pm
I don't watch any of them except Jimmy Kimmel when he has the voted off dancers from DWTS and I do laugh at Guillermo.
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Tishala
Member
08-01-2000
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 2:44 pm
Golden Girl and former Broadway star Rue McClanahan, has sadly suffered a stroke while recovering from bypass surgery that she received in November. As previously reported, the actress underwent the surgery to treat an acute cardiac illness. Doctors were reportedly successful in removing the blood clot that caused the stroke, which occurred soon after the surgery, but McClanahan's recovery has been slow. She spent two weeks in the ICU and is now in a nursing facility having completed rehab. Says her husband Matthew Wilson: "She can understand what you are saying in conversation, but still has some trouble speaking. Her speech is slower than it once was and she hasn't completely recovered on the right side of her body. She's going to require a lot more physical and speech therapy - but at least it's not like I stay awake at nights any more thinking that Rue is going to die." McClanahan began acting on Off-Broadway in New York City in 1957, and her Broadway debut in 1969 when she portrayed Sally Weber in the original production of John Sebastian and Murray Schisgal's musical Jimmy Shine with Dustin Hoffman in the title role. She went on to star on Broadway in Father's Day, Sticks and Bones, California Suite, The Women, and Wicked. McClanahanthen found primetime success in Maude, broadcast from 1972 to 1978, playing Maude's (Bea Arthur) best friend, Vivian Harmon; and, of course, in The Golden Girls, broadcast from 1985 until 1992 as Southern Belle Blanche Devereaux. She received an Emmy Award in 1987 for Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series for her work on The Golden Girls. Broadway World
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Kookliebird
Member
08-04-2005
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 2:49 pm
It sounds like she has Aphasia like when my mom had a stroke. It's really hard to learn how to speak. If the stroke is in the left side of brain, it means right side & speech impacted. But, she probably has her full faculties still. It's a very hard road and hard for the family, as well.
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Wink
Member
10-06-2000
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 3:28 pm
My oldest son had the pleasure of meeting her in Austin this past November. He said she was as funny in person as she was in her heyday.
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Mameblanche
Member
08-24-2002
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 10:50 pm
Poor Ms. McClanahan! I hope she recovers as fully as possible. She's about 76 and it's going to be an uphill battle for her.
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Seamonkey
Moderator
09-07-2000
| Saturday, January 16, 2010 - 11:20 pm
That is a tough road, for sure but you know she'll give it her all..
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