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Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Tuesday, August 04, 2009 - 9:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
I'm sorry to see Paula leave as she is a bit of a fixture on the show and it won't be the same without her. I do like Kara though.

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:05 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ginger1218 a private message Print Post    
I am very disappointed that Paula is leaving. She was an original part of the show and it will not be the same without her (wacky as she is)

Pamy
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01-02-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 4:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Pamy a private message Print Post    
I'd rather see Randy leave than Paula. She at least provides more words than Dawg, you did your thing/it was a little pitchy to me.

I wonder if she has gotten so bad that the producers dont want to be associated with her anymore.

I wonder how she feels about this

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 6:45 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
LOL Pamy, Bee...he rings MY bells, but the name doesn't. Lordy, he is fine and so soft spoken and funny!

Nostaligia isn't enough reason for me to feel sad Paula is leaving.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 6:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I'll believe Paula is gone when AI starts and she's not there. Talk like this happens every season before the show begins.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 7:06 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
The filming with the judges at the auditions starts tomorrow in Denver, so if we don't hear about Paula being in Denver tomorrow, then I'll believe she is gone.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 10:01 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
She is gone, she's made an official statement and so has Fox. I believe it was all over money, from the comments on her twitter (@PaulaAbdul). Good for her for not backing down, she completely deserved as much as Ryan, as far as I'm concerned. Hope she can find something equally fulfilling, and maybe a little less stressful.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 11:16 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I'd rather have seen Randy go and Kara.. well I'll continue to fast forward through her bits.

I hope Paula ends up with a better gig..

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 11:23 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
i am with you Sea

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 11:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
SM and LB, so many popular entertainers have held out for more money, didn't get it, walked and went down that deep, dark rabbit hole never to be seen again.

Sadiesmom
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03-13-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 12:40 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Sadiesmom a private message Print Post    
Or left a hit show to disappear. I keep thinking of that guy that left Mash to have his own series, I wonder if he died.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Or one of my favorite examples (Dunkleman) who I keep mentioning. But I guess Paula has lots of money.

By the way, I like Kara. I think she tries to offer sincere helpful critiques.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I thought they just didn't renew Dunkleman's contract.. and that was a very good decision.

I suspect Paula spent the last season feeling threatened that they had hired Kara, undoubtedly for less money than Paula was making and now here she is.. Kara staying, Paula not getting what she asked for but seeing Ryan get a big raise.. or perhaps it was feeling unsupported when she asked that the girl who was stalking her and clearly not in her right mind NOT be put through to audition with judges and they went ahead and did it and then the girl ended up killing herself outside Paula's home.. perhaps that told Paula that they would sacrifice anyone for ratings. I'm sure it was lots of issues.

Most of the polls I've seen have been pro Paula and when asked, anti Kara.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:25 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
My understanding was that he left and then regretted the decision to leave.

It's too bad that some people see it as a fight between Paula and Kara. I like Kara and I don't mind Paula. The whole show is pretty stagnant.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Stagnant it is, Jimmer. I think this last season was the first I actually FF'd through many eps. And you know I was a definitely a diehard fan before then.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 1:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
I agree it is stagnant.. I just happen not to care for Kara.. think at times she has a chip on her shoulder, maybe trying to prove her credibility and was not impressed with the godawful song she wrote for the final two this year.

I guess it is too bad that people see it as a contest, but they do and I think Paula did. It was like.. why did they even need a fourth judge?

The stagnation for me comes from Randy constantly booing Simon, from Seacrests constant shots at Simon and his homophobic slant to it. I think Ryan is quite talented and hardworking, just wish they'd can that part of his schpiel.
And of course the Paula and Simon "fighting" too.. still that was mildly amusing compared to the Randy booing and total lack of vocabulary.

This year I'd ff through most of what was said and listen to Simon and ff through anything Ryan said after that too. Makes the show go faster, I suppose.

But the whole concept is less fresh and certainly less trustworthy for me.. This year they clearly set it up as "time for a male to win" and they got their wish.

Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:02 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
My guess is that if the response to Kara is lukewarm this season they may ditch her and bring Paula back next season - and with a nice fat raise.

Neko
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08-03-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:05 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Neko a private message Print Post    
Oh Vanessa Hudgens...why didn't you learn??

PINK IS THE NEW BLOG WARNING NSFW.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 2:08 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The show hit a new low for me this year when Simon drew the mustache on Paula with a magic marker. Allison had just given a tremendous performance and neither Paula nor Simon could resist their stupid antics long enough to comment on it. It was so disrespectful, unkind and inconsiderate, aside from being stupid. Yes I did laugh over Paula being so out of it that she would allow Simon to draw that on her but at the same time it was rather pathetic. Before that happened, both Randy and Kara had made sincere and heartfelt comments about the performance. At least Kara tries.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 7:51 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
I totally agree with your post, Jimmer. That whole moustache thing was childish, and the lack of respect shown that time (and other times) towards the singers has been disgusting.

Oldtex
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03-06-2006

Wednesday, August 05, 2009 - 9:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Oldtex a private message Print Post    
I may be the odd one out, BUT I watch AI for the contestants. I form my own opinions. Sometimes they are about the same as the "judges", but other times I don't like what they like or visa versa.

AnyWho, as I see it, how much money does one person really need? But do understand that for Paula, it probably wasn't the amount of money, she was probably a bit humiliated and insulted that "others" were being given such huge contracts. AI won't be the same without Paula. But as they say, the show must go on!

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 12:46 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
http://television.aol.com/american-idol/2009/08/05/paula-abdul-quits-american-idol-ruined/?icid=main|main|dl3|link3|http%3A%2F%2Ftelevision.aol.com%2Famerican-idol%2F2009%2F08%2F05%2Fpaula-abdul-quits-american-idol-ruined%2F

Paula Abdul Quits! 'American Idol' Is Ruined
Posted 08/05/09, 2:00 PM GMT by Kelly Woo

It was the tweet heard 'round the world.

Last night, Paula Abdul announced she was leaving 'American Idol' via Twitter: "With sadness in my heart, I've decided not to return to #IDOL."

Fox confirmed her departure, stating the network was "saddened" but wishing her the best. While fellow judges Simon Cowell, Randy Jackson and Kara DioGuardi have yet to comment, host Ryan Seacrest tweeted that he couldn't "imagine the panel without" her.

Wait ... hold the phone, er, Twitter. Is this really happening? Because if Paula truly does not return to 'American Idol,' the show will be ruined. It's done.

Paula is an integral part of the show -- and Fox is stupid to let her go. Here are five reasons why 'Idol' will never be the same after Paula's departure:

1. She's the warm, gooey heart of 'American Idol'
Nobody would care about the show if they didn't care about the contestants. And Paula is the their first and biggest fan, representing the viewers at home. She also remembers the contestants long after their time on the show, citing their performances in later seasons. Without her, 'Idol' would just be a big, cold, machine of a talent competition. As much as we like to make fun of the show or some of singers, we also end up really rooting for Kelly Clarkson and David Cook and Kris Allen ... and keep watching to see them do well. Admit it, when Paula tears up over a performance (Elliott Yamin's 'A Song for You'), you know you mist up, too.

2. She's the sugar to Simon's spice
Everyone agrees Simon Cowell's presence is necessary for 'American Idol's' continued success. But Paula provides the yin to Simon's yang. Would his zingers have quite as much zing if Paula didn't gush over the performances first? Their sometimes playful, sometimes antagonistic banter just won't work with Randy and Kara. Plus, what if Paula's exit starts a domino effect and Simon doesn't re-up on his contract? Then 'American Idol' really has no reason to exist.

3. She can give insightful feedback
Paula isn't always, um, coherent, and certainly never truly critical; but she does sometimes wake up and provide thoughtful commentary. For instance, this past season she told Matt Giraud, "You pick songs like I bowl. This was a strike." And she compared Adam Lambert to another kind of champion, saying, "It is like watching the Olympics and you are Michael Phelps." Sure, sometimes she doesn't make sense, but is "It was just 'aight for me for you ... for me" much better?

4. She's not Kara
Returning to the three-judge panel is a great idea, but 'Idol' ought to have dropped Kara DioGuardi. The songwriter with "industry cred" brought nothing to the critiques and tended to reuse the same catchphrases (e.g., "I want to know who you are as an artist"). We already have Randy for that. Kara's worst offense, though, is writing that atrocious finale song, 'No Boundaries,' which even Adam "I Can Sing Anything" Lambert struggled with. Kris Allen has since dropped it from his 'Idol' tour set list. And even if Kara has songwriting chops beyond 'No Boundaries,' Paula is still the only judge who's actually "been there" as a pop star.

5. She makes things interesting
What would 'Idol' be without the jokes about what's in Paula's cup? Or the jokes about her alleged relationship with Corey Clark? Or the jokes about the time she critiqued a song before it was sung? Or the jokes about her weird outfits and overtanning? But seriously, the woman makes for good television. 'American Idol' is so popular because it draws people to the watercooler. Without Paula, will everyone still ask their friends and co-workers, "Can you believe what happened last night?" Afraid not.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 6:58 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
I just heard on the radio that Posh Spice may replace Paula?

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
Well I hardly think Idol is "ruined". It would probably have a problem if Simon left but it can survive without Paula.

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Thursday, August 06, 2009 - 8:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Posh will be a guest judge.