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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 2:46 pm
RN I am happily surfing on my newly installed Windows 7. I thought I would hate it after 8 years with XP, but I seem to be doing fine Heck, I was SO not into trying a new OS, that last year when I got my new computer, I made them put XP on it instead of Vista like it was supposed to come with.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 2:52 pm
RN: I am sad. My dd2 got bit by a dog and she had to have 3 stitches under her eye. The worst part was that it's MY DOG (my seven year old doberhound)! Well, we gave him to my grandma over the summer after she lost her dog (old age)so he has been living at the ranch. Yesterday DD2 flopped down on top of him while they were jumping on the trampoline and he bit her in the face! Then just now I found out that he's been showing aggression toward other dogs, and I didn't know that before. We may have to have him put down if we can't figure out what is wrong with him. We can't have a biting dog around all these kids. Yes he's fixed and up to date on all vaccinations.
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Naja
Member
06-28-2003
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:03 pm
RN...I am so sorry, Escapee I hope DD recovers ok and that your dog situation can be fixed without putting him down. I truly wish you were told the first moment the dog was showing aggression.
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Christy358
Member
07-10-2007
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:09 pm
RN--Sad for your DD. Sad for your dog. Vet can check for anything wrong with him that might be causing aggression.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:16 pm
RN: Vet check is on the agenda.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:21 pm
RN I'm sorry for your daughter and your dog. Your daughter flopped on top of him? At least it wasn't a totally unprovoked bite. Perhaps you could ask about this in the dog thread.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:38 pm
RN: Jimmer, no it was not unprovoked. She should NOT have done that. Afterall, he is a dog, and it drives me nuts when people say a dog should know better. IT'S A DOG, an animal, they don't know better, if they did, they wouldn't do it. This happened one other time with my older daughter when we first got the dog six years ago. He used to be quite well endowed in the nether regions, and he was lying next to the bed sleeping. DD1 was about a year old and she stepped of the bed and squished his goods. The dog whipped around and snapped at her and his tooth got her right in the head. Just a puncture, no stitches. However, now DH is adamant we do something since this has happened before. The dog is now considered a repeat offender in his eyes. This is one of the most lovey dogs in the world. He follows DD2 around all day when she's at Great Grandma's house. However, it wasn't until today I found out "well, he has been showing more aggression lately, what if this happens again and he takes out an eye or attacks the little dog...." So we are in a spot.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:48 pm
RN Escapee, many older dogs start getting aggressive when they develop arthritis in the spine or hips. I wouldn't call a dog "aggressive" if he bites when a child falls on top of him. It is a natural reaction. Aggression toward dogs is a different story. It is important to know what sort of situation makes him react aggressively to other dogs.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:59 pm
RN Awww Escapee, I feel bad for all of you. Its such a hard decision. When my daughter's dog bit my mouth requiring several stitches her hubby wanted to put the dog down, Mandy was crying hysterically and I was trying to calm them both down. I told them not to put the dog down (it was getting old) but to keep it away from the baby. They built a fence for the dog and a huge doghouse and kept him outside most of the time. Easier to do in FL than in a cold climate. He died naturally about a year later and I was relieved. I'm sorry ya'll are going through this.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:10 pm
RN: He's not that old, though. He'll be 8 next year. I know this sounds harsh, but I suggested a shock collar for anytime he shows aggression toward the other dogs. It wouldn't be permanent, just a quick "knock it off" until he learns his place.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:14 pm
RN I personally don't like shock collars. Pain doesn't cure anything. He might just build up resentment toward the other dog. He may blame the other dog for the pain. 8 can be an age when arthritis starts.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:19 pm
RN: He's not showing any signs of hip pain and he does get a lot of exercise, but we will have the vet take a look at that as well.
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Karuuna
Board Administrator
08-31-2000
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:23 pm
Eight is actually quite old for some larger dogs. My golden died of heart failure at 9. You could keep a muzzle on him when the kids are around. Shock collars actually cause more aggression, they don't cure it.
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Jimmer
Moderator
08-30-2000
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:27 pm
Rn - I don't want to underestimate your concern but it's not like he is going around attacking kids. One time he had his equipment stepped on (and trust me that must have been an unhappy moment for him) and the other time someone fell on him. So you have every reason to be concerned but it's not totally inexplicable.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 4:46 pm
RN: Kar, don't tell me that!!! I rescued this doll from the side of the hwy when I was 9 months pregnant with DD1. I actually drove past him and began bawling my eyes out and went back and loaded him and another dog that was with him into my truck. My grandma was with me and she was panicking because he was barking and scared and I was trying to coax him in. I won, he came over and started licking me. His companion jumped right in, I found a home for that guy. My intention was to find the one left his home or a home, but he saved my life from a potential intruder and I figured we were meant to be. NO, I am not blaming him for snapping at the girls at all. But, I can't help but wonder if this snapping episode and the sudden aggression toward our golden is related on some level.
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Rissa
Member
03-19-2006
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:06 pm
I second that arthritis at 8 is possible. My pup spent most of his 9th year on very strong pain pills for a flair-up in his spine. He is fine now, little stiff in the mornings but it's only a matter of time until he has another trigger and he is VERY grumpy about being touched when sore. He hates being picked up now and can't decide if he likes our other dog trying to play with him or just wants to eat her face. LOL If you really don't see any signs of it though, how about a refresher training course? Perhaps alpha dog status has been lost by the humans at the new home? PS He is beautifull! PS2: How about the possibility of hearing loss? That can make a dog jumpy as well, must feel like the whole world is always sneaking up on him.
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Christy358
Member
07-10-2007
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 6:33 pm
Rn Hearing loss is why my dads dog got snippy when he got older. That sneaking up thing really was bad. Luckily, no small kids at the house except for 2 or 3 days a year. Snow had to spend every Holiday locked up in the bedroom. Escapee, I feel sad for you too, trying to balance everything and make the right decisions. Another thought occured to me. Perhaps something else is going on that you do not know about. Neighbor children picking on dog? Something that has made your dog just a little less tolerant of being jumped on?
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Couchtomato
Member
09-09-2008
| Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:03 pm
RN, Escapee, I'd be sure to keep dog and children separated. My story - we'd just moved into a new house, most furniture was still in storage. Had 2 boxers. One of them peed on the carpet. As I was sopping up the spot with paper towels, the 3yr old neutered male turned and bit me under my eye (stitches). I fell on my face and he went for the back of my neck. My thick hair prevented another bite, just scratches instead. Had he hit an artery in my neck, I probably would've bled to death before help arrived. This dog had shown aggression before, just never bit a person. He tantalized our younger boxer. My dh took the dog to the shelter and he was put down. My vet said the cause of aggression was a brain tumor.
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Dogdoc
Member
09-29-2001
| Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:54 am
You should research breed characteristics before buying a purebred dog to place in a family situation.. Some breeds are not good with children, others are. I recommend golden retrievers or collies as pets for families with children. They tend to love children and tolerate them well.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:49 am
RN: We have a Golden Retriever, he is an amazing animal. This dog I have now is a doberman hound cross (as pictured above). He's always been a little bit of a nervous dog, very sensitive, but very loving. He doesn't like loud noises or guns (I mean you can't take the bb gun out in front of him or he hides in his dog house). Yesterday, my 'cousin' (oy) who the dog DOES NOT LIKE came to my grandma's house with a toy gun to knock the dog in the head if he tried to get him. Of course, the dog growled when he came in and had to be put in the garage. My aunt was angry and ranted about the danger of the dog and how it needed to be dead. Lord that woman is about my least favorite right now. Last time my cousin was here, the dog growled at him because my cousin was being loud and using aggressive movements toward him. The kid needs an arse whooping of the worst kind, IMO (oh, he's 18, btw). I have 2 possible theories if the dog is in no pain 1. The next door neighbors to where the dog lives are very icky people and I think they may be taunting him, they've done odd things like this before. 2. They are ripping the orchard out behind the property and using a lot of loud machinery.
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Twinkie
Member
09-24-2002
| Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:01 pm
RN I just emailed my resume for a position that would be my dream job. Proofreading and editing for the Buffalo News newspaper. I so hope I get this job. I love proofreading. I've been doing it for years for people, mostly for free. About time I got paid for it. LOL Everyone keep a good thought for me, please.
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Couchtomato
Member
09-09-2008
| Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:19 pm
RN, Twinkie.
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Beekindpleez
Member
07-18-2006
| Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:19 pm
Good thoughts your way, Twinkie!
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Rissa
Member
03-19-2006
| Friday, December 04, 2009 - 5:07 am
RN, That job sounds great Twinkie. Will keep fingers crossed for you.
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Escapee
Member
06-15-2004
| Friday, December 04, 2009 - 8:57 am
RN: Doggy update. So, went out to Gramma's last night and Boobydoo was laying on his dog bed. I said "come here Boo." and he got up so stiff. He's starting with arthritis. You guys were right. Poor little bugger.
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