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Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
Jennifer Hudson.

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Great singer? Clay Aiken. :-)

My mom's office mate apparently listens to Taylor Swift. My mom says it just grates on her nerves. Very monotone and not pleasant at all. I can handle her Romeo and Juliett song because it's catchy, but I wouldn't want to listen to 45 minutes of her voice. I'd probably be lulled to sleep.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Susan Boyle.
Adele.
Celine Dion.
Kelly Clarkson.
Adam Lambert.

I would say those five are great singers.

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:02 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Like I posted before, the only one that would shake me would be Whitney. But I don't believe it is her.

As to J-Lo, it wouldn't surprise me if it was her, but it wouldn't shock the record world for me if it was true.

When it was mentioned about it "shaking the world" with this scandle. We should look at all the different countries in the world and not just the U.S..

I'm leaning towards more and more towards J-Lo. Thankfully, it won't shake my world.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:10 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
I think there was probably some hyperbole going on. The world is pretty jaded today.

I think it would be more shocking if it was someone who has won a lot of Grammys, the Oscar of the music industry, which is why Christina A. jumped to my mind, but apparently she sings a'capella at the drop of a hat!

Beekind, good list of singers!

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
Never heard of Adele or Adam Lambert, so guessing that would not shake any music world. Kelly & Susan were both on shows that no way could anyone dub in another voice. (plus do either of them have kids?) If it were Celine, that would rock the music world. But I don't thinks she was separted/divorced.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Julie....my list is not a list of suggestions for who this mystery person is...it's a list of who I think are good singers, as Jimmer asked.

Dipo
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04-23-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Dipo a private message Print Post    
Yep, Hermione, that is why I knew it wasn't her, LOL.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 11:49 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
I think it's obvious that it's either Ella, Sarah Vaughan, Streisand, or Judy Garland.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

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Does Kylie Minogue (sp?) have a child, been married, etc?

Would she rock the music world if discovered to be a fraud?

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Taylor Swift.. well a great songwriter isn't always a great singer and certainly not Entertainer of the Year. And sure, maybe both of her songs on DWTS were "off" but I ran across a review of the good and bad aspects of the CMA this year and that reviewer also used "flat" to describe her singing there.. coincidence, maybe. And to sweep so many awards.

Have to admit I thought she was cute but really hadn't heard her sing. My friend who listens to country more often than not kept saying she just didn't like Taylor's singing but I was simply shocked to hear her on DWTS! And certainly she DOES have her own sound set up?

Guess I haven't actively listened to country music in recent years.. I just remember singers who could sing a capella and be on pitch, not flat, in tune, etc..

Country entertainers of the year?

1967 Eddy Arnold
1968 Glen Campbell
1969 Johnny Cash
1970 Merle Haggard
1971 Charley Pride
1972 Loretta Lynn
1973 Roy Clark
1974 Charlie Rich
1975 John Denver
1976 Mel Tillis
1977 Ronnie Milsap
1978 Dolly Parton
1979 Willie Nelson
1980 Barbara Mandrell
1981 Barbara Mandrell
1982 Alabama
1983 Alabama
1984 Alabama
1985 Ricky Skaggs
1986 Reba McEntire
1987 Hank Williams, Jr.
1988 Hank Williams, Jr.
1989 George Strait
1990 George Strait
1991 Garth Brooks
1992 Garth Brooks
1993 Vince Gill
1994 Vince Gill
1995 Alan Jackson
1996 Brooks & Dunn
1997 Garth Brooks
1998 Garth Brooks
1999 Shania Twain
2000 Dixie Chicks
2001 Tim McGraw
2002 Alan Jackson
2003 Alan Jackson
2004 Kenny Chesney
2005 Keith Urban
2006 Kenny Chesney
2007 Kenny Chesney
2008 Kenny Chesney
2009 Taylor Swift

Not talking pop or rock or broadway but of course some did cross over.

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As for the mystery.. Christina was always one of the bunch of singers coming up when she did who had and I think continues to have a real voice.

Wonder if mystery person did have a voice but lost it?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I thought about Kylie Minogue too, but I don't think she's big enough in the US for it to be her. She started out as a teenager on an Australian soap, and released a single on the basis of that and she Could Not Sing. I think she's had proper training since then though, and with the amount of special things she's been in I don't think they could have covered it if she was faking.

Plus she doesn't have kids, and now we know the person has kids (I think, or did I make that up?). She is separated, or possibly divorced by now.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
What are the things we know for sure about this person? Is there a list anywhere?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
What we know about MV:
MV is a woman.
Has a least one child.
Has been or is currently married.
Separated and/or divorced at least once.
Has toured done "hundreds of concerts worldwide."
Has/had several Top 40 songs and CDs.
Since the beginning has put out several CDs.
If truth is known it will "blow the music world up and shake it to its core".
In the beginning, "MV was everywhere..on television, radio, awards shows, commercials".
Timeline starts around the year 2000-2001.

MV is definitely NOT:
Mandy Moore
Pink
Norah Jones
Beyonce

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:47 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
This is from what Tishala has posted here:
. female
. scandal would blow the music world up and shake it to its core
. in late 2000(ish) the first (fake) recordings were made (timeline is "soft")
. single from the recordings was on the radio "a few months later" and that was when the singer started to take off
. singer has had "several Top 40 songs and CD's. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30's"
. singer "was everywhere.. on television, radio, awards shows, commercials.. EVERYWHERE"
. singer goes on tour at the end of 2001 (in the soft timeline)
. second CD "a year or so" later; second CD does better than the first
. "process repeated itself several times," i.e. third and/or more cds produced
. singer was rude
. this "involved literally millions of CD's and hundreds of concerts all over the world"
. singer got at least one gold record
. singer has been or is currently married
. singer has at least one child
. singer has been separated and/or divorced at least once


. not Mandy Moore, Pink, Norah Jones, or Beyonce

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:55 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Great lists, Costa and Kitt! Thanks for doing that!

One thing was left out that might help us, with consideration to the personality of MV:

So a meeting was arranged in my office and S and MV finally met face to face..they had never done so, even though it was S who made MV a star..MV was rude to say the least when she saw what S looked like and it really upset me although S being her normal classy self could have cared less..

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 12:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
So, Kylie Minogue is out...

hmmmm, How about Nelly Furtado? Would she fit the list, or rock to the core?

Twinkie
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09-24-2002

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Really, I can't think of anyone who's career started in 2000 that I would give a crap if this was discovered about them. Certainly not anyone that would rock the music world. To me that would have to be someone like Streisand or Garland. Even Madonna started long before 2000. Beyonce? But she has no kids. Whitney? Wasn't she around long before 2000?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

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I think one of the biggest clues (in terms of eliminating people) is commercials. Only some singers have done commercials surely? I've been trying to find a list but haven't found one yet.

(And thanks Costa! Thought I'd better do my own list rather than being lazy but I could have waited!)

Julieboo
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02-05-2002

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:16 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Julieboo a private message Print Post    
I'm with Twinkie. No one who "started" as recently as 2000, would I consider that popular that the music world would be shook...

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The only person I can think of who fits all the clues and has done commercials is Britney Spears. And it could be her. I mean, we all know she lip syncs but we all also think it's her voice being augmented. Not someone else's voice entirely. She's big enough that it could rock the music world to its core.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

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Forgot to mention, I dunno if J-Lo has recorded that many albums. Three that I can think of: 2001, 2002, and 2005. At least here in the States, in English. :-)

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 2:18 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
Just looked at the original site... no new clue yet!

But missing from the above lists,
. the recording artist stopped doing the voice of the singer sometime in 2005 (nb: soft timeline)
. in November 2006 (actual time) the singer was "contemplating an in depth interview to address some issues in her personal and professional life," but no mention of whether that actually happened or not (if it did happen, it obviously didn't mention the singing issue)

Britney shaved her head in February 2007 which fits in quite well with that. Also she had no albums between 2003 and 2007. She toured, did commercials, divorced, kids. Maybe her voice just wasn't strong enough to really do albums without the extra help. Oh, and as the blog was written in 2006, maybe this would have been shocking then (before the head shave) even if it isn't now.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 2:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
The final clue for this anniversary week is MV was born in the United States.

OK, so that takes out Shania Twain. And Anne Murray. And kd lang. And Joni Mitchell. And Thalia. I still say Britney.

Crzndeb
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07-26-2004

Friday, November 13, 2009 - 2:35 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Crzndeb a private message Print Post    
I just don't see how it would shake up the music world if it's Britney. She can't sing, even on her albums. If S sang for her on her albums, then I'm sorry, she wasn't all that good either. Unless sounding like you sucked some helium is music to some. But who knows? Maybe. But I won't be shocked.