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Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 7:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
The godfather of Michael Jackson's three kids says he "could be" the father of Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris .. and it sounds like he may be waging a legal fight.

Mark Lester -- a longtime friend of Jackson's -- says M.J. asked him if he would donate sperm during the time the singer was married to Debbie Rowe. He says a London clinic contacted him and he obliged with the donation.

Lester claims there's an uncanny resemblance between his 15-year-old-daughter Harriet and Paris.

Lester, who spoke with News of the World, says he is willing to take a paternity test.

Lester says he has "concerns about the welfare and upbringing of the children." Lester says he does not currently have contact with Jackson's three kids and it's "heartbreaking."

Lester did not say he's gearing up for a legal fight, but the signs are there ....


Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 8:46 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    

Harriet Lester with her dad Mark Lester.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 9:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Katherine Jackson's attorneys were on Larry King and I found them to be offputting and kind of arrogant when Larry would ask questions. They basically want the whole pie.. they want Katherine added to those administering the trust, claiming that Michael had wanted her on there.. uh but he didn't put her on there.

When asked about someone else who might be a father they said there was no reason to do a paternity test, the kids were Michael's and nothing else mattered. A court may feel differently, but I'm guessing if any of the guys haven't stepped forward until now, they may not have standing.

As for Debbie Rowe.. papers have said she will get supervised visitation, but the attorneys sounded more like "if it was in the best interest" and sounded to me like they weren't going to make it easy to be best interest.

Also not covered by Larry, but the kids have been seen with Jehovah's Witness literature and I gather Michael didn't want them raised that way. And I'm sure the family is aware of that.. if he'd wanted them to participate that way, he would have done it.

A friend of mine online says when Michael was a child he and a group of JW came to their door and he wasn't very comfortable doing that (he wasn't really famous, yet, at that time, just some what famous.)

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
The best interest for these children is a steady home. It doesn't matter if they are raised Jehovah's Witness or not. They need a proper home outside of the media scrutiny with the security of knowing they won't be leaving or moving again. They don't need another parental shock. Katherine has been ruled to be their primary caregiver. It is up to her how they are raised. She obviously feels that church is important to the children. He knew when he left the kids with her that she would raise them her way.
If Mark Lester suspects he is the father, he should leave the children alone. If he wants to pursue something once they are grown, that is different.
These children loved their daddy. That's all that matters. They didn't see him as a celebrity. Why put them through more trauma!

Brenda1966
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07-03-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:24 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Brenda1966 a private message Print Post    
Agreed. It's rather selfish to step forward now. And what if he is just the bio-father of the one child -- does he plan to rip her from the only family she's ever known? Keep her from her siblings? This man's motives are highly suspect. The kids are dealing with enough trauma right now without people like this coming out of the woodwork.

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:26 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
As I understand it, the agreement between Rowe and Katherine Jackson is that they have chosen a child psychologist who will work with the children and that professional will be the decisionmaker about how visits with Debbie progress.

Gidget
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07-28-2002

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Gidget a private message Print Post    
Let's hope a wise judge sees the children's best interest and squashes all attempts to separate them or test paternity. Give Katherine custody but also have an eye that Joe gets no where near those kids.

I don't know much about family court. I wonder in a case like this, could a judge make Katherine answerable to like a case worker?


Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
Absolutely, Gidget, if the judge thought it best for the children, they have that authority. They try not to interfere unless there is cause, however. In addition, the court can appoint a guardian ad litum, which is an attorney that advocates solely on behalf of the children.

As for paternity, as I understand it per California law, if you are married to the mom, you are the *legal* dad. Period. It's one of those laws that has been upheld many times as absolutely being in the best interests of children, since it provides continuity of care and financial support.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 10:42 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Kar..do you know if their having been married in Australia instead of in the States would have an effect under California law?

Karuuna
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08-31-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 10:52 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Karuuna a private message Print Post    
In general, marriages in foreign countries are valid in the US, unless they wouldn't be valid if performed in the US (for example gay marriages which are legal in some countries are not recognized here).

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

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Thanks.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:30 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Hmm but if this person was appointed Godfather of all three of the kids (Paris) then it seems like he should be involved in her life without a paternity test.

Perhaps he is pushing this issue because he is being shut out.

http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/09/michael-jackson-kids-godfather-paris-is-my-daughter/





I do think some importance should be given to their father's (meaning Michael) wishes regardig religious upbringing, but they are trying to overturn some of his other choices.. who controls the money and apparently those he chose to stand up for his kids.

Seamonkey
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09-07-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 4:32 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Seamonkey a private message Print Post    
Looks like "Dancing" is looking at Paula..

http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/09/abc-wants-paula-abdul-for-dancing-with-the-stars-judge/

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
He's gone. He left his children with his mother, and he knew she was religious. How could he leave his kids with her and then tell her not to teach what she belives in? MIchael had to know his mother would take the kids to church. It's part of her life. I think she sounds like a woman doing the best she can. By taking them to church, it shows she is trying to make their lives more normal. IMO
As I said, I honestly think stability is more important.
As to his other choices, we don't know how possible they are to accomplish.

Babyruth
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07-19-2001

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Babyruth a private message Print Post    
Twiggy, I agree with your posts. Very well put! :-)

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Sunday, August 09, 2009 - 8:53 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
Thank you

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Monday, August 10, 2009 - 6:30 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Elisabeth Hasselbeck (from The View and Survivor Australia) has given birth to her third child Isaiah Timothy

Ginger1218
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08-31-2001

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Her pregnancies seem very short to me. Like she just announced it and boom.

Naja
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06-28-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 8:43 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Naja a private message Print Post    
Jennifer Hudson had her baby last night. A little boy named David Daniel Otunga Jr.


http://www.eonline.com/...

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 10:29 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
At last a parent with her head screwed on right. A nice normal name for her baby.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 12:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
Anne Heche was on Regis & Kelly this morning. Her two sons -- Homer and Atlas. I feel sorry for them.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Friday, August 14, 2009 - 7:48 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Reality TV villain Omarosa entering a seminary
DAYTON, Ohio – This may come as a surprise to anyone who has seen her villainous ways on reality TV: Omarosa is entering an Ohio seminary to study for the ministry.

Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, known for her in-your-face antics on "The Apprentice" and other reality shows, is scheduled to begin her studies at United Theological Seminary in Dayton on Monday.

Ivan Hicks, the school's associate dean for African-American studies, says Omarosa will spend about two years pursuing a doctor of ministry degree.

Hicks says the Youngstown, Ohio, native has a heart for Christian ministry and has done work on behalf of the homeless and the poor in Haiti.

He says Omarosa's reputation for both good and bad will help her as a minister, because people will relate to her.

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Information from: Dayton Daily News, http://www.daytondailynews.com

Mamie316
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07-08-2003

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:07 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mamie316 a private message Print Post    
Celine Dion is pregnant with her second child, her rep has confirmed.

"We can confirm she is pregnant," her rep said Tuesday morning, adding that the singer, 41, and husband Rene Angelil "are very happy."

The Journal de Montreal reported that Dion underwent fertility treatment at a clinic in New York and is due to give birth next May.

Dion and Angelil have an 8-year-old son, Rene-Charles, who was conceived by in vitro fertilization after six years of trying.


Mameblanche
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08-24-2002

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Mameblanche a private message Print Post    
Wonderful news, congrats to the Celine and René!

Ophiliasgrandma
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09-04-2001

Tuesday, August 18, 2009 - 8:44 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ophiliasgrandma a private message Print Post    
How great is that news! I'll bet we truly can't appreciate what she has gone through to have this baby.