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Escapee
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06-15-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 5:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Toni Braxton
Sarah MacLaughlin
Natalie Mains
Ashanti

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 7:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Isn't Natalie Mains with the Dixie Chicks? I would imagine it would be hard for her to lip-sync in concerts because that means the rest of the group would have to be in on it.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 8:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I highly doubt it's Ashanti. Go look at her bio. She's done background vocals for J-Lo and she also sang on a charity song along with over a dozen others. You can't fake that. She's also apparently appeared as an actress in several movies, but no commercials.

Braxton started recording hits way earlier than late 1990's or early 2000's. I also don't think she ever appeared in commercials.

Wink
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10-06-2000

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 7:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Wink a private message Print Post    
I'll climb on board the Madonna train. I always thought her voice was weak but was overshadowed by her stage shows so didn't get commented on as much.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 8:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Hermione69 a private message Print Post    
It's not Sarah McLachlin because she is Canadian. I'll do another chart later, probably tomorrow. It's going to be a busy day today.

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 9:15 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
It can't be Madonna. Her first album came out in 1983. That's no where near the "soft timeline."

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 12:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Has Beyonce ever been married?

Ladytex
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09-27-2001

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 1:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Ladytex a private message Print Post    
She's married now to Jay-Z

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 1:06 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
no kids though

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 1:11 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Hmmm... I wonder if it is a hoax now. I went and googled Martha Wah from the "Weather Girls" because I knew she sued because they used her voice for other singers and I found this on Wikipedia.

"With the Milli Vanilli scandal still fresh in the minds of the music industry, Wash, also perturbed by the fact that her image had been labeled "unmarketable" because of her size, successfully sued to receive proper credit and royalties as the vocalist on all of these songs. Wash's courtroom efforts spurred legislation making vocal credits mandatory on CD's and music videos. It also awarded her a recording contract with RCA Records, which led to her debut, self-titled solo album in 1993. The album scored three top ten club/dance hits including "Carry On", "Give It to You", and "Runaround." The first two hit number one."

So, if they passed a law stating that the real singers need to be credited and that was around the time that MV started singing.

Maybe Martha Wash is involved in all this somehow and that's why it would rock the recording industry with all the legalities.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 4:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I don't see a soft anything. I read it as this person was already famous and this singer filled in for her.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

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The timeline was soft, as in when the writer mentioned the dates of some of the things that happened he wasn't accurate, so as to make it less easy to guess (and sue him). I.e. when he said 2000 it might have been 1999, 2000 or 2001.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
So it doesn't rule out Madonna..IMO

If this is not a hoax...

Lexie_girl
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07-30-2004

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 7:45 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Lexie_girl a private message Print Post    
Well it does rule out Madonna. This person came onto the music scene in the very late 1990s or early 2000. Madonna's first album was in 1983.

Jimmer
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08-30-2000

Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 8:21 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Jimmer a private message Print Post    
The timeline may be weak but it would have to be awfully weak for it to be Madonna. Plus Madonna was never considered that good a singer anyway. She is a great entertainer but not an exceptional singer in any sense.

Twiggyish
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08-14-2000

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 3:39 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Twiggyish a private message Print Post    
I didn't read that the person came on the scene during that time..LOL I think we all interpret it differently.

We may never know for sure if there is never an answer given.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 11:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
It said the artist's first cd was in that 2000 (soft) period, so it does rule out Madonna. But you're right that we're unlikely ever to know... if it's not all fake anyway.

Spitfire
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07-17-2002

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:14 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Spitfire a private message Print Post    
Did anyone say Mariah Carey?

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 1:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
no kids

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 2:33 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Mariah Carey hit it big in the early 90s with Vision of Love, Hero, One Fine Day......she was big way before 2000.

Hermione69
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07-24-2002

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I am so tired and I had such a busy week, I'm gonna have to big off the next chart for a couple more days, but if you guys really want another, I'll take down the other names thrown out and get to it when I have some energy.

Goddessatlaw
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07-19-2002

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From Crazy Days and Nights (Entertainment Lawyer) today. I think it's the closest we're going to get to confirmation that Jennifer Lopez is MV:

Listen to This New Song, She Does NOT Sound Like Before

Don't read the comments below the article if you're offended by crass language.

Kitt
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09-06-2000

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 6:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Kitt a private message Print Post    
I don't know how to do tables, but here's the checklist for Jennifer Lopez:

As at 2006
. female YES
. scandal would blow the music world up and shake it to its core MAYBE
. in late 2000(ish) the first (fake) recordings were made (timeline is "soft") MAYBE first album was Jun 1999
. single from the recordings was on the radio "a few months later" and that was when the singer started to take off YES in timeline
. singer has had "several Top 40 songs and CD's. They could have gone to #1 or languished in the 30's"
. singer "was everywhere.. on television, radio, awards shows, commercials.. EVERYWHERE" YES
. singer goes on tour at the end of 2001 (in the soft timeline) NO no touring until 2007
. second CD "a year or so" later; second CD does better than the first YES second cd was Jan 2001
. "process repeated itself several times," i.e. third and/or more cds produced YES
. singer was rude MAYBE
. this "involved literally millions of CD's and hundreds of concerts all over the world" MAYBE
. singer got at least one gold record PROBABLY (I don't know how to find out)

As of 2009
. singer has been or is currently married YES
. singer has at least one child YES
. singer has been separated and/or divorced at least once YES
. the recording artist stopped doing the voice of the singer sometime in 2005 (nb: soft timeline) POSSIBLE, last album release Oct 2007
. in November 2006 (actual time) the singer was "contemplating an in depth interview to address some issues in her personal and professional life," but no mention of whether that actually happened or not (if it did happen, it obviously didn't mention the singing issue) Can't see anything controversial happening around that time
. was born in the US YES

It's the touring that doesn't work, I don't think she toured earlier than 2007.

Rissa
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03-20-2006

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 7:27 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Rissa a private message Print Post    
According to Wikipedia: Lopez performed on tour on the Let's Get Loud "Live in Puerto Rico" Concert in 2001.

The same page also notes a 3 yr absence from music (or 3 yrs btn success' anyway): Lopez was then featured on LL Cool J's single "Control Myself", which was released on February 1, 2006. It reached number four on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100 and number two on the UK Singles Chart. It was Lopez's first U.S. top ten hit in three years.

Konamouse
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07-16-2001

Friday, November 20, 2009 - 7:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Konamouse a private message Print Post    
In 2001, Lopez performed on tour on the Let's Get Loud "Live in Puerto Rico" Concert.

It was reported[by whom?] that Lopez and Anthony were taking professional business meetings at the Church of Scientology Celebrity Centre in Hollywood, California, in late 2006.

Looking very probable now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Lopez