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Scooterrific
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07-08-2005

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:56 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Scooterrific a private message Print Post    
Don't ya hate when that happens Hermi???!!!

Holly
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 3:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Nah, you're good Hermi. I just found out recently (via public records online) that my ex had been busted for possession (20+ years ago and only a joint) but I knew absolutely nothing about it at the time. And I fancy myself a sleuth too

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:03 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
He's apologized (sincere or not- only he knows). IMHO, that's sufficient for the public; I think all humans - celebrity or not - deserve their privacy with their personal lives. Some choose to share it with us, but none are obligated simply because they're famous. We watch them in movies, in sports, etc. - but we do NOT watch their home lives. That's why it's HOME life. I hope they are both able to get the help they need and to resolve their issues with as little damage to the children as possible.

ETA -I try not to contribute to the media craze by never watching ET, Insider, etc. nor buying the National Enquirer - or even People magazine for that matter. I've learned of Tiger's issues soley on CNN.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 5:23 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
It is sad to me that they are reporting it as news on CNN. Tsk on CNN for this. Et, Insider, and TMZ I expect this prying into lives, but CNN.....really?

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 7:59 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Someone upthread said it... Tiger has put out this squeaky clean image. With all the hiding and backtracking and taped convos and all coming out now, it is kind of news. You can't have your cake and eat it too if you want to be in the public eye. Just doesn't work that way. If you're gonna wander, you should expect to be caught. If the media knew about his transgressions and were polite and never talked about them before, then he got way more than any other celeb.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 8:01 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
Escapee, I agree. It's understandable here cause we gossip. same with TMZ ect. But NEWS??? it's not news.

Juju2bigdog
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10-27-2000

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 8:24 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Juju2bigdog a private message Print Post    
A shattered American icon? I tend to think it sort is news, even if tawdry news.

Teachmichigan
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07-22-2001

Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 8:31 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Teachmichigan a private message Print Post    
Exactly - and the fact that it's e-mailed to me on CNN Breaking news???? Ridiculous. Breaking news should be things that MATTER!

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:19 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
a shsttered american icon??? juju, i never guessed you for the over dramatic! LOL

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 8:28 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
The reason it's news is because of his spit clean image. He's been held up as the perfect American icon... talented, a winner, married to a beautiful and supportive woman, two kids. Today's local paper had interviews of people who've been longtime fans (almost fanatic) and they are VERY upset at his fall from grace. His affairs aren't news. His fall from grace is.

Colordeagua
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10-25-2003

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 9:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Colordeagua a private message Print Post    
The reason it's news is because of his spit clean image. He's been held up as the perfect American icon... talented, a winner, married to a beautiful and supportive woman, two kids.

And too, if he is arrogant as Holly said above, then he should expect and be prepared for this. I cannot tolerate arrogance and I'd say that's true of much of the general public. He may be the world's best golfer, but that's not going to get you everything and every where in life.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:27 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
Yeah, arrogance is a definite turn off for me. I don't care how good you are at what you do, thinking you're above it all isn't gonna make me love you more.

Beekindpleez
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07-18-2006

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 10:57 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Beekindpleez a private message Print Post    
Here's some new gossip we can gossip about:

Rolling Stone Ronnie Wood has been questioned by police over claims that he assaulted his young Russian lover.
The 62-year-old was arrested in the high street of Claygate, Esher, Surrey, by officers called to reports of an assault.

It is understood that his on-off girlfriend Ekaterina Ivanova, 20, claimed he attacked her during a row.

A Surrey Police spokesman said Wood was released on bail until a date next month pending further inquiries.


link is to edinburghnews.com

Legalboxer
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11-17-2003

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:08 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Legalboxer a private message Print Post    
Two quick comments

1) Tiger did not create a perfect image of himself, the media and the public did. All Tiger did was play golf, choose the right sponsors, and stay PRIVATE – and because he always has been so private, that created the perfect image in people’s mind. But in reality, what else was he supposed to do? Openly disclose something in his private life just to make sure people did not think he was perfect? We know nothing about his half siblings because he did a great job staying private – we know little about his mom for the same reason – and what we know about his dad is because of what his dad would share. He was a superb golfer from the time he could walk – and that is what we see because that is his profession. He did not enter golf to become this famous perfect man – he entered golf because that is his love, his passion, and his profession. And if the sponsors wanted to join the bandwagon, that was their choice – its not like tiger was going to agree to an advertisement that was crude or raunchy – what athlete would want to do that? So just because the advertisements are all clean cut again does not mean that Tiger created that perfect image – that is just what was created by the public because that is what we saw – not to mention he has never been perfect on the golf course with his language or temper sometimes – and he is not the one editing that out of the television sets.

2) Re: arrogance. All I say is Ben Hogan. I know only those of older age or golf fanatics can truly appreciate this but the fact is, he is the best golfer in history (for the time being) and he was constantly called arrogant or aloof for years because he was so private and never talked to the media. In truth, he was one of the nicest athletes you would ever meet – he just was shy and very private. I am not saying Tiger is shy, but I am saying that too often people are labeled arrogant because they don’t talk or share personal things, when in fact they are the complete opposite. Art Monk, former football player and hall of famer, was viewed in the same way because he was so private and focused – and like Hogan, he is one of the nicest people you can meet – off the field, in other settings.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 11:21 am   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
I don't know about shyness being behind Tiger's arrogant reputation. If you look at his behavior on the golf course (club throwing, swearing, etc) it just doesn't mesh with the idea that he's a shy man.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
amen Legal!!!

Grooch
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06-16-2006

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 1:49 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Grooch a private message Print Post    
Wow! I just checked Wikipedi for the heck of it, and they already have everything about this situation posted.

Who adds this stuff to Wikipedia? It can't be a hired staff. There are just to many subjects on it to keep up to date on everything.

Costacat
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07-15-2000

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 2:44 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Costacat a private message Print Post    
I disagree. Tiger created the squeaky clean image by hiring the publicists and other staff that surround him to ensure that his image stays squeaky clean.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 4:20 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Right on, Costa.

Texannie
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07-16-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 4:43 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Texannie a private message Print Post    
he hired those people so he could have his privacy. why are we entitled to know about his private life? it's this since of entitlement that bothers me. sure, we can have a purient interest, but he is not obligated to tell us anything.

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:15 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Exactly Costa. To think that PR teams and advertising execs didn't carefully construct Tiger's image--and protect him, especially after his abominable interview in GQ soon after he turned pro--is to ignore what large corporations do to create marketing "heroes."

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:17 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
Tish, what made the interview in GQ abominable?

Tishala
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08-01-2000

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:22 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Tishala a private message Print Post    
Oh, the thing I remember best is that he said something to the interviewer about basketball players getting lots of good looking women and suggesting that it was probably because they were well-endowed. I think he also said something about lesbians, but I'm not remembering it right now. It was something Team Tiger took to heart because they realized they had to be super careful with him about the media, etc., lest his image get sullied. It was the first, and to my recollection only, instance of a dent in his well-crafted armor.

Escapee
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06-15-2004

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 5:28 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Escapee a private message Print Post    
Tiger's a Cheetah and now his wife will become a Cougar.

Holly
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07-22-2001

Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 6:00 pm   Edit Post Move Post Delete Post View Post Send Holly a private message Print Post    
How interesting! I always wondered why the oh-so-tight PR machine around him. They sure did a great job in shaping and perfecting his image... until now anyway.